On this episode of the Culture War podcast, we have special guest Ian Crossland join us to talk about the latest in pop culture, politics, and pop culture culture in general. We also have an interview with Alex Stein, AKA the Pimp on a blend.
00:02:12.000DNI Tulsi Gabbard says that she can confirm the Russia Gate conspiracy was created by the Obama administration, and she has the papers to prove it.
00:02:21.000She's delivered them to the Trump Justice Department.
00:02:24.000So we will see where that goes and we'll talk about that tonight.
00:02:27.000Donald Trump is suing the Wall Street Journal because of the Epstein, what, comic book, maybe you call it.
00:02:36.000Colbert is out at CBS, and the Dems are saying that it is foul play, and it doesn't have anything to do with losing $40 million a year.
00:02:46.000Puerto Rico bans sex changes for people under 21, so we'll get into that.
00:02:50.000And the Pacific Northwest is crazy like a fox still.
00:02:54.000Washington has said that they have a policy that bans CPS from taking kids from drug-using parents, and it is now linked to an increase in child mortality rates.
00:06:05.000I'm an avid reader, internet connoisseur.
00:06:09.000I was thinking today, like, what causes subatomic spin?
00:06:12.000And I kept trying to figure it out, and I think it might be cymatics.
00:06:14.000You know, like the vibration of the space-time is causing the shape of subatomosis to appear in a position, then it changes the frequency, it appears in a different position, changes it again, appears again, then it changes it back to where it started.
00:06:28.000So the scientific community thinks it's spinning is just alternating position, and then that causes electrons and protons to form.
00:07:01.000From Real Clear Investigations, exclusive secret meetings open document floodgates on Trump-Russia hoax.
00:07:07.000The floodgates holding back long-buried classified documents exposing government efforts to claim Donald Trump conspired with Vladimir Putin to manipulate the 2016 U.S. presidential election might finally be opening.
00:07:20.000Trump administration officials held an urgent meeting Sunday to discuss new information on RussiaGate, which they might use to build a criminal conspiracy case against Obama and Biden administrations.
00:07:31.000Political appointees who allegedly weaponized the government against Trump, two Trump administration officials told RealClear investigations.
00:07:41.000The documents are said to contain long classified information, including a secret 200-page congressional audit that reveals details about how an intelligence community assessment on Russia ordered by President Obama after the 2016 election was framed in a way that portrayed Trump as being beholden to the Kremlin.
00:07:59.000Now, everybody here may, well, you may or may not be aware of it, but I believe it was last week Matt Taibbi wrote on his Substack about how the DOJ, about Comey and Brennan were involved, that there was evidence against them.
00:08:16.000And now there's investigations into both Comey and Brennan.
00:08:20.000But I'm wondering if you guys have any kind of take on this.
00:08:42.000So every Tuesday, they would submit this list to Obama, and Obama would kill these people.
00:08:47.000Oh, so you're talking, well, you're talking about the John Brennan's kill list right here, the New Yorker.
00:08:52.000So, you know, this talks about, obviously, he'd probably have to pay for the article, but it talks about how John Brennan would give a list every Tuesday, and Barack Obama would personally oversee and approve who would kill.
00:09:02.000Yeah, so I think that's the deposition matrix, formerly known as a kill list, is a database of information for tracking, capturing, rendering, or killing suspected enemies of the United States.
00:09:15.000I mean, they would kill people with drones.
00:09:16.000They would kill people all different ways on this list, allegedly, the CIA list.
00:09:19.000And so I think it's pretty obvious that John Burden and Obama are corrupt.
00:09:23.000So, I mean, I definitely want to look into it.
00:09:24.000A lot of people don't know about this list, but literally this list, allegedly, every Tuesday, there's different names, different assets, and they would go kill the people on this list.
00:09:37.000The deposition matrix, this is where they had the justification for killing Anwar Al-Alaki and for killing whoever was targeted at the wedding that Anwar al-Alaki's son was at that ended up with him being killed by drone strikes.
00:09:53.000Yeah, but I'm just saying this list, though, is not just big assets.
00:09:56.000Like, there's small assets on this list.
00:09:58.000You know, there's all kinds of people on this list.
00:10:00.000I mean, and who chooses to kill this guy?
00:10:02.000Because we don't like them because they don't give us a good deal on oil.
00:10:17.000Literally, it was called that New Yorker, I think, wrote about it, and there's other people who have written about it, but it's every Tuesday that this list would go out and it'd be a new list, be new assets that they would go and kill.
00:10:26.000And Barack Obama was the guy that would actually directly approve it to John Brennan.
00:10:46.000Why are we drone striking Afghani funerals?
00:10:48.000I mean, it's just because we're killing terrorists because that protects us.
00:10:51.000To my knowledge, there haven't been really a lot of drone strikes as of late.
00:10:55.000Not as of late, but Barack Obama, I think he did a drone strike every, I think it was like, I think he did enough drone strikes in eight years.
00:11:02.000He was like, he dropped a drone every two hours for eight years.
00:11:05.000I've got the stats for that, actually.
00:11:34.000So, you know, so, but, but back to the back to the home front here, the idea that CIA and the Obama administration, including the FBI, was fabricating information about foreign collusion by Donald Trump, by the elected president, because a lot of the, if I understand correctly, the information that Tulsi Gabbard had put up, it's all on her ex account.
00:12:10.000And at that point, they were saying, on December 8th, 2016, IC officials prepared an assessment for the president's daily brief finding that Russia did not impact recent U.S. election results by conducting cyber attacks on infrastructure.
00:12:22.000Before it could reach the president, it was abruptly pulled based on new guidance.
00:12:27.000This key intelligence assessment was never published.
00:13:06.000And now, going back, I think that we would all say, and you guys might not agree, that it was good that Donald Trump lost the 2020 election.
00:13:12.000So that's not, we're not talking about that.
00:13:13.000I know we're talking about 2016 and how the Russian collusion and how it's all fake, but we know that it's fake.
00:13:18.000Is anybody going to be held accountable?
00:13:20.000Well, I mean, like I said, last week or maybe the week before, both Comey and Brennan are under investigation.
00:13:28.000So an actual investigation by the Justice Department now with this information, it's completely reasonable to think that they might be actually brought before a court or something might actually happen.
00:13:40.000I understand there's a lot of people that are like, oh, nothing ever happens.
00:13:43.000And that's even to the point that it's a meme now.
00:13:47.000But still, if they're investigating and there's this evidence that DNI Gabbard has delivered to the DOJ, because at the end of this tweet thread, she says, I'm providing all documents to the Department of Justice to deliver the accountability that President Trump, his family, and the American people deserve.
00:14:41.000I just have no hope of the FBI investigating itself or the CIA investigating itself.
00:14:46.000I feel like this is one of the things that the Trump administration has tried to do since it got into office again has been trying to cleave apart the deep state and go after the entrenched bureaucrats.
00:15:01.000And I think that this might be an actual significant part of it.
00:15:04.000Yeah, it seems like they're starting from the very beginning when they're finally in there and they're like, okay, well, we can at least start with this from 2016 and start piecing together what we could possibly do about this situation.
00:15:17.000Yeah, I mean, and, you know, to another point, there's a lot of people that are complaining, you know, pretty regularly, oh, you know, I want to see arrests.
00:15:29.000And Cash Patel and Dan Bongino have said, hey, look, we're working behind the scenes.
00:15:36.000We can't tell you guys what's going on and we can't arrest people or make arrests without actually having tangible evidence that we could actually take action on because you don't want to arrest people and not have something to actually prosecute, not be sure that you have a legitimate chance of actually being successful.
00:15:55.000I mean, the government's, what, 95% of their prosecutions, they end up convicting, come to a conviction.
00:16:20.000I want to know about this conspiracy stuff.
00:16:22.000And, and on a serious note, obviously, Michelle Obama, you know, whether she has one or not, there is other stuff I think that is more important to go after than just James Comey.
00:16:55.000The people that Epstein is dealing with are multi-billionaires.
00:16:58.000And that is a world of different from me to multi-billionaires.
00:17:04.000I would argue that those people are financially more powerful, but I would say culturally the people that Puff Daddy did are more popular in general.
00:17:12.000So they could be used for even more leverage because they're actually outspoken.
00:17:16.000Like a celebrity is more important than the secret billionaire.
00:17:18.000Who was implicated in the Puff Daddy stuff?
00:17:20.000Well, Jay-Z, Beyonce, allegedly, and then they had to sue a bunch of people.
00:17:24.000I'm not saying Jay-Z was doing that, but he had to sue a bunch of people for accusing him of being at these parties.
00:17:29.000So I do think even though they might not have been as financially powerful, they were powerful in a different way, to try to, if you have leverage on a person like Michael Jackson or a person like R. Kelly or something like that, I think that is very powerful.
00:17:43.000Their message goes a lot farther than a billionaire who nobody knows her name.
00:17:46.000It kind of makes me think that, like you said, they should be focusing on maybe something more important than the Comey thing.
00:17:52.000Now, firstly, if they did collude, you saying that they should be focusing on something more important?
00:17:58.000Well, that's what Alex was insinuated that why is the government focusing on this thing?
00:18:19.000I mean, that's the only thing we want this damn list.
00:18:22.000I mean, I can see the influencers are like, well, you know, we have bigger fish to fry than the Epstein list, but I've been passionate about this since 2016.
00:18:30.000in the Epstein list was one of the reasons that I started liking Donald Trump because he was opposite of Hillary who Bill Clinton was on this plane doing God knows what.
00:18:40.000He was on the plane, but I do think that Bill Clinton getting, you know, oral sex from Monica Lewinsky and maybe doing more in the Oval Office.
00:18:46.000I think he, maybe Donald Trump's a dog.
00:19:22.000He was best friends with Prince Charles.
00:19:23.000And then after his death, it came out that he was a porter at the Royal Children's Hospital, and that he allegedly would go into the morgue, and he would take bodies, and they would take him on boats, and they would do SRA, satanic ritualistic abuse, and they would do rituals with the dead bodies.
00:19:38.000And Jimmy Seville laid the groundwork for these elite pedophiles doing weird rituals with so I get that the Epstein stuff is very hot right now and there's a lot of people that want to talk about it.
00:19:53.000You don't think that the possibility of finding out that the Obama administration, including former President Obama, were involved in trying to basically do a coup to an incoming president?
00:20:53.000We have a system of justice, but it's not very just.
00:20:56.000So I don't think it's like the MAGA Granny is going to get six years in jail, but James Comey, take that thought and apply it to the Epstein stuff.
00:21:06.000If you don't trust the FBI to investigate itself and the evidence that DNI Gabbard is providing, I think raping a child is worse than whatever James Comey is.
00:21:17.000But why would the FBI investigate that if they wouldn't investigate?
00:21:22.000Well, the FBI didn't really investigate that very well, did they?
00:21:25.000So do you think that there's more of a chance that stuff will come out about the Epstein stuff?
00:21:30.000I think it's a possibility, but I was arguing with James O'Keefe about this.
00:21:33.000He says it's going to come out sooner.
00:21:35.000I think it'll probably all come out after we're dead.
00:22:25.000There's probably some reason they did that.
00:22:27.000To try to, I guess, appease us in some sort of way.
00:22:30.000And I think people that are, this is the thing.
00:22:32.000Most people are low IQ voters and don't even know who J.D. Vance is.
00:22:37.000But that's the difference between us and the left.
00:22:39.000Conservatives are actually paying a little more attention, so we're not as dumb as the left.
00:22:42.000So I think that's why they weren't able to trick us with this.
00:22:45.000And that's why there's still people that are influential on the right calling out the Trump administration and saying, where's the transparency that you guys campaigned on?
00:23:23.000It's like that kind of seal has been broken on arresting presidents.
00:23:29.000And it is without a question that whatever, if the things that are being implicated, that the Obama administration has been implicating, the alleged behaviors that Tulsi Gabbard says that she's delivered the information to the Justice Department, if that actually did happen, that is without question enough to put Barack Obama in jail.
00:23:51.000It's far worse than anything Trump did.
00:23:53.000Trump, they had to literally create, you know, they had to create a whole list or a whole fake crime so that way the misdemeanors could be brought to the level of felonies.
00:24:06.000Luckily for Barack Obama, he used to write letters to his ex-lover that he fantasized about having gay relations.
00:24:12.000So in prison, he would probably do very well.
00:25:29.000So you're talking about post-television era?
00:25:31.000Well, no, I mean, just the first one to actually be considered a celebrity.
00:25:35.000Because even like the, there's an argument that Bill Clinton, when he went on MTV and played the SAC, was like the first person.
00:25:41.000So like a president first, then they become a celebrity because they're the president?
00:25:45.000Well, I mean, Donald Trump is the first person that was a celebrity first, but I think that Barack Obama became a celebrity as he became president because he was literally, you know, he's the junior senator from Illinois, and then he gets catapulted into the.
00:26:26.000I would still argue, I would debate this all day long, that it is technically Donald Trump, even though because every president you could say is a celebrity, because Donald Trump had The Apprentice was like number one reality show.
00:26:34.000Like he was actually had a whole career just doing celebrity TV and then went to politics.
00:26:42.000I think like I would I would say that if The Rock became president, you know, that Donald Trump is more like The Rock than he is than Barack Obama.
00:29:09.000It's about the cloud seating, about the horrible floods that happened in Kerrville, Texas, where over 100 people died and 27 girls at a Christian camp, Camp Missic, that have been there 99 years.
00:29:18.000And on top of this, they were arguing with me about it.
00:29:20.000They're like, actually, in 1987, there was a really bad flood too, but that flood was 15 feet.
00:29:26.000And this one happened in like 90 minutes.
00:29:28.000And I do not like people manipulating the weather, calling me old school, calling me old fashioned, but guys going on podcasts like, oh, we need to manipulate the weather because these farmers don't have enough water.
00:29:38.000It's like, okay, all right, I don't want you spraying silver iodine in the sky.
00:29:41.000And they're like, well, we can only create this many gallons of water.
00:31:13.000All right, so listen, let me read the headline here.
00:31:16.000Donald Trump delivers on promise to sue Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch over Epstein birthday card.
00:31:21.000Donald Trump followed through on his promise to sue the Wall Street Journal and its owner, Rupert Murdoch, after the paper reported on his alleged involvement with a 50th birthday card to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:31:32.000Court records show the libel suit filed in the Southern District of Florida against Wall Street Journal, Dow Jones, and Rupert Murdoch, CNBC reported.
00:31:40.000A copy of the complaint was not immediately available.
00:31:43.000The case was filed in Miami federal court.
00:31:45.000A bombshell report in the Wall Street Journal on Thursday claimed Trump wrote a baudy 50th birthday card to Epstein, which it concluded, happy birthday, and may every day be another wonderful secret.
00:31:56.000The newspaper said it had reviewed a typewritten letter bearing Trump's signature framed by the seemingly hand-drawn outline of a naked woman that Ghislaine Maxwell included in a 2003 birthday album.
00:32:07.000Even if Donald Trump wrote that, which I don't think that he actually wrote the card, if you actually read, I don't think that he dictated it.
00:32:16.000I don't think he had anything to do with the actual writing of the stuff in it.
00:32:19.000But even if he did, it is still a nothing burger.
00:32:48.000That's why he's suing because he denied it.
00:32:50.000But Daily Mail didn't mention the weirdest part is when he wrote on the drawing where he put his name, Donald, was in the pubic area of the.
00:32:59.000Yeah, I heard that, but I can't find the picture.
00:33:41.000But there are these pictures that he's alleged to have drawn that he signed.
00:33:45.000And he sells them or people sell them.
00:33:47.000They're going for $20,000, $30,000 on eBay or whatever.
00:33:51.000But still, to me, this is just like, this is absolutely nothing because there's no allegations except for, hey, Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein used to be friends.
00:34:01.000And there's a million pictures of Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein.
00:34:04.000A lot of the Epstein stuff is relatively nothing.
00:34:15.000There was a lot of pedophilia because Jean-Luc Brunel, we can only say so much that Jeffrey Epstein's biggest sexual conquest that he would brag about, allegedly, was that he slept with three triplets that were 11 years old.
00:34:25.000That is when it goes vile where it's like erratic, like that you need to.
00:35:01.000The point that I'm making is that train has left the building.
00:35:04.000Most people are aware of the distinction, but it is a distinction without a difference in most people's minds.
00:35:10.000What I'm saying is if Donald Trump got a hand job from a 15-year-old and he thought she was 18, that's a big difference in having sex with a six-year-old.
00:35:17.000Is it a big difference or it's just the difference?
00:35:20.000It is a completely different reality to get rubbed down by a girl that you think is 18 that's 16 or going after a nine-year-old.
00:36:36.000The reason age of consent is like 16 or 15 or whatever is so that way a young man that's 17 or 18 that has sex with a 15-year-old doesn't get his life ruined.
00:36:50.000I think it's so that four-year-old men can marry young women from the middle ages.
00:36:56.000In the United States, the reason that they have age of consent laws is so that way young men that are, like I said, 18, maybe 19, dating a 16-year-old, it's not so bad if an 18-year-old is dating a 16-year-old.
00:37:10.000But legally, because of 18, you could say, oh, this person has their life ruined.
00:37:17.000But it's not so that way a 40-year-old man can have sex with a 15-year-old.
00:37:24.000That is not what age of consent laws are for.
00:37:26.000Maybe that does prevent some people that are actually abusing the power difference here from going to jail.
00:37:35.000But the point isn't to allow adult men to have sex with teenage women.
00:38:15.000So that's just an important nuance, man.
00:38:18.000It's not an important nuance because the question on people's minds, the problem that people have is the abusive nature of an adult man having sex with a young girl.
00:38:33.000And so whether or not it is illegal by the law, it is abusive and a power differential between an adult man and a 15-year-old girl.
00:38:44.000The problem is the abusive nature, not that it's legal or whatever.
00:39:05.000out of this you know kindly i so i guess the reason i bring it up is i feel like people are fleeing the epstein they don't want to be even remotely associated with anything they're like i was on an airplane there was a 17 year old girl giving me a missile.
00:39:21.000RFK went dinosaur hunting with Jeffrey Epstein allegedly with his family.
00:39:25.000So, ah, maybe there's more people in the Trump administration besides just Trump that would be, you know, could be collateral damage.
00:39:32.000Like, I don't want people to think they have to start a nuclear war to prevent their name from coming out on a list because they had sex with the girl that was 16 that they thought was 18.
00:39:39.000Like, that's different than people going after eight-year-olds.
00:39:55.000A lot of that was entrapment on Epstein.
00:39:57.000Well, and that did happen like on Epstein where they would, they would, like, make you do gay stuff if you weren't openly gay, you know, and they could just, you know, use that as leverage.
00:40:05.000And they would do stuff where like you would sleep with somebody and you wouldn't know it was, they were underage.
00:41:01.000Like, I do understand what you're trying to say, but at the end of the day, I guess the court of public opinion, even if they slept with a 17-year-old, it's not going to be okay.
00:41:12.000If this list were released, I think that there are people that would be willing to start a nuclear war to prevent it from getting released.
00:41:18.000And I don't want them to be that afraid of getting their name exposed and being associated with Epstein.
00:42:07.000Democrats condemn CBS for axing the Colbert show.
00:42:10.000People deserve to know if this is politically motivated.
00:42:13.000Lawmakers note cancellation follow Colbert's criticism of parent company Paramount for settling the Trump suit.
00:42:20.000Democrats are condemning CBS for its recent decision to cancel the late show with Stephen Colbert, noting the news comes just a few days after its host criticized the network's parent company, Paramount, for settling a $16 million lawsuit with Donald Trump.
00:42:34.000Senator Adam Schiff, who everyone knows is totally truthful, a California Democrat who appeared as a guest on the Colbert show on Thursday night later, wrote on social media, if Paramount and CBS ended the late show for political reasons, the public deserves to know and deserves better.
00:42:50.000This show, if I understand correctly, costs $100 million per year to run, and they lose $40 million a year.
00:43:53.000And you already have a show that is, what is it, Paramount is also seeking approval from the U.S. Federal Communications Commission for an $8.4 billion merger with Skydance Media.
00:46:50.000You know, Jasmine Crockett, she has no integrity.
00:46:52.000I think there's the amount of integrity in AOC is a lot more than Jasmine Crockett.
00:46:56.000Jasmine Crockett, which is, she's just a, you know, a politician that's about self-preservation, and she'll say anything and go after Marjorie Taylor Greene, just like Marjorie goes after her for a click.
00:47:05.000So she's, I just, I think she just has no integrity.
00:47:41.000Because that's the other thing is people want to call conservatives racist, but conservatives go out of their way to help black people and women, which is there's nothing wrong with that.
00:47:51.000But I'm telling you, all the accusations that the left make about the right, they actually do.
00:47:55.000They're the ones that actually discriminate people based on color.
00:47:58.000When if you're a black conservative, I think that conservatives want to lift you up more.
00:48:02.000Yeah, I mean, that's honestly my sense, too.
00:48:05.000That's why I question whether or not she's actually being disingenuous, because if she were really just power hungry and after accolades and stuff, a black woman like her actually would get more in the Republican Party than she does in the Democrat Party.
00:48:22.000I mean, isn't that kind of the argument?
00:48:23.000Well, I don't, I mean, I feel like all the stuff she talks about, though, I don't even know really a lot of her policies.
00:48:30.000I just know that she doesn't like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
00:49:27.000He and Trump and Bungee, they all like go into this new, this world where they're going to get twisted and ripped apart and remade with this satanic dark energy of government where you got to do damage control and decide who's going to live and who's going to die.
00:49:42.000And it's just, it's hard to see people I like go through that, but it's this necessary evil of being in that environment.
00:49:49.000That's sort of a tangent off of what you're doing.
00:49:51.000It's the Bill Hicks joke that, you know, like when a president gets elected, they bring him to a room and they show them, I'm not doing the joke right, but they show them a film of JFK's assassination, but not the Zapruder film, like a different angle.
00:50:03.000And they tell the president, they show him the video, like, do you have any questions?
00:50:05.000And the president's like, no, I have no questions.
00:50:07.000So once you get into that office, you do have to play ball.
00:50:10.000Even Donald Trump has to play ball on some stuff.
00:50:15.000Do you have a sense that the average politician, because so just to make it clear, my kind of gut instinct, because I don't have any kind of inside information, is congress people don't get that kind of pressure.
00:50:33.000They might get a knock on their door from APAC.
00:50:36.000Actually, I'm sure they get multiple knocks.
00:50:38.000You know, a bunch of people from AIPAC knocking on the door.
00:50:41.000But other than that, that's probably the most pressure they get.
00:50:45.000I think that it's the bureaucrats and the actual president that would get.
00:50:51.000Or there's aliens that come down and they say, we're abducting the children.
00:51:20.000I don't know how connected they are to the Epstein list, but I feel like if there are ghosts or aliens, it's not that they're traveling from far away.
00:51:27.000They're just in a different dimension here on Earth.
00:51:30.000Well, I asked a Twitter poll, did the ghost of Epstein destroy the spirit of Donald Trump?
00:53:38.000And that's what they say that they got the time travel technology.
00:53:41.000And then if you look at Back to the Future, these people, they make these YouTube videos where it's like Back to the Future is this coded movie for Donald Trump's time traveling experience.
00:53:51.000And it's just weird because the movie is based off Biff in the movie.
00:54:08.000Is it that people are being, their minds are being warped by like some external source and then they're trafficking the children and they're doing the bidding of some, is that the idea?
00:54:19.000Or is it literally like aliens are beaming children up to spaceships and having sex with them?
00:54:47.000In 1988, a publication of Baron Trump's Marvelous Underground Journey.
00:54:52.000And in the book, it was about a character named Baron Trump, and his guide is named Dawn.
00:54:58.000Now, I've heard that that book got wrote later.
00:55:02.000Like, it's more recent, but they just make it look like it's an old book.
00:55:06.000This is saying it came out in 1896 or 1888.
00:55:10.000That's what it says in the book, I believe, is dated back to then, but then all of a sudden it just appeared like in the lexicon in the modern mind like five years ago.
00:55:42.000From the post-millennial, Puerto Rico bans all medical sex changes for people under 21.
00:55:49.000Minors, having not yet reached the necessary emotional, cognitive, and physical maturity, are particularly vulnerable to making decisions that can have irreversible consequences.
00:56:00.000Puerto Rico has banned sex change surgeries for those under the age of 21 and blocked public funds from being used for such purposes.
00:56:09.000Governor of the U.S. Island Territory, Jennifer Gonzalez-Colon, signed the bill into law on Wednesday.
00:56:14.000The bill would see fines of $50,000 per violation issued to healthcare professionals who provide hormone therapy or sex change surgeries, as well as 15 years in prison and the revocation of licenses and permits per NBC News.
00:56:30.000The law states minors, having not yet reached the necessary emotional, cognitive, and physical maturity, are particularly vulnerable to making decisions that can have irreversible consequences.
00:56:42.000Therefore, it is the state's duty to ensure their comprehensive well-being.
00:58:05.000And I know some people that have dodged their taxes in Puerto Rico.
00:58:07.000So Puerto Rico, first of all, is the last place you want to get any kind of surgery, unless you're trying to get a BBL or something for 50% off.
00:59:37.000I feel like you got to let they're adults, so I don't see why you would ban them from making medical decisions over 18.
00:59:46.000The argument for that is basically your prefrontal cortex has not developed enough to control basically your decision making, your emotional brain.
01:00:02.000It's like your brain actually finishes developing somewhere around 25.
01:00:06.000So at 20, you know, when you're 18, even though you're an adult technically, you're prone to be more reactive and make decisions based on emotion more than on actual thought about it.
01:00:21.000And the repercussions don't really register with people what forever is and what permanent really means the same way they do with someone over 25.
01:00:46.000I've never actually looked into it, but I know that when it comes to like renting a car, the reason you can't rent the car until you're 25 is because of these studies that insurance companies have done.
01:00:59.000They say, okay, people under 25 make bad decisions because they haven't matured enough.
01:01:06.000And when you look at the actual science behind it, they haven't matured enough because their prefrontal cortex hasn't fully developed.
01:01:11.000And I agree with that because when you're 21, you're still a kid.
01:01:14.000I know that seems people like, no, you're really adult.
01:03:45.000Honestly, I mean, we should be doing everything we can as a society to disincentivize and discourage transitioning because I think that it, well, first of all, because you cannot become a woman if you're a man.
01:04:31.000They're like, there's not very many surgeons in America that will do this surgery.
01:04:34.000I have to go to a foreign country and it's not safe there.
01:04:36.000And then if you look at the amount of gender reassignment clinics in the 80s compared to now, and then you have, you know, Billboard Chris that released it and Libs of TikTok, a video of Boston Children's Hospital saying that they love a child diagnosed with gender dysphoria because they have a patient for life.
01:04:52.000There's a medical incentive to transition these people.
01:04:55.000So until we stop our for-profit medical system, this is never going to stop, Phil.
01:05:02.000No, I mean, I actually, that's, you know, one thing that I'm not too conservative.
01:05:05.000I wish we had caps, I wish we could put a lot of caps on our healthcare system.
01:05:09.000But I'm saying, if we have a healthcare system that is a capitalistic system, they're always going to use this gender reassignment, gender transition.
01:05:17.000It's like how they give everybody an antidepressant.
01:05:35.000And I think with this trans stuff, there's no better way than to diagnose somebody as having gender dysphoria, and they will never be okay.
01:05:42.000I do agree that there is a lot of doc, or there are a lot of doctors and a lot of pharmaceutical companies that are lobbying for these procedures and to keep these procedures legal, specifically because it creates permanent customers.
01:05:59.000If you have a transgender surgery, you are going to be on medication for your entire life.
01:06:44.000You can get pleasure all sorts of ways.
01:06:46.000I'm just saying it's not, it's not the same.
01:06:48.000So what do you guys think about the argument?
01:06:50.000So, you know, playing devil's advocate here, what do you think about the argument?
01:06:53.000Well, that, well, this is the early stages of transgender surgery.
01:06:57.000And whereas they'll never be able to make, they'll never be able to change the chromosomes, they will be able to eventually produce genitals that are functional in a way that normal people's genitals are functional.
01:07:14.000And this is the necessary first steps.
01:07:18.000Are you talking about like take cells, clone them, and grow an option?
01:07:21.000I basically like grow a genus in your elbow and eat your own penis.
01:07:24.000So I don't know how it actually happens.
01:07:28.000But the point that I'm making is there are people that are transhumanists that believe that in the future we are going to have bionic arms, bionic eyes.
01:07:37.000You'll be able to either regrow or have mechanical appendages.
01:07:43.000It's going to be like Futurama or headache.
01:07:45.000Well, it'll be straight up like Luke Skywalker's hand.
01:07:48.000And they're growing skin and muscle in the lab.
01:07:54.000So, I mean, you can imagine that in 100 years, they'll be able to replace people's arms with a mechanical arm that actually has their own skin, like grafted or grown in the lab, covering it.
01:08:09.000Maybe it'll be a robotic skeleton, but you'll be able to grow, you know, your own skin and stuff.
01:08:15.000What do you say to people that say, this is just the first step of that stuff?
01:08:39.000And I think God puts you in the body you're meant to be in.
01:08:42.000But what I think might happen is they actually grow a body for you and then move your consciousness from the male body to the female clone or something like that.
01:08:53.000Or really, if they have the Neuralink, you don't even need a body.
01:08:57.000Like you'll just be like intubated in a tube and then you'll be living in a computer fantasy like Vanilla Sky.
01:09:01.000Yeah, it's kind of like by the time we get to that point, it will be like a non-thought anymore.
01:09:07.000It's just like, I mean, you could technically be in that point where you could have a penis that you could put back on if you would decide to untransition yourself if you had gone that route.
01:09:16.000So at that point, it's like, why do it any of it?
01:09:42.000But man, that gross shit, when that gets into the kids' minds and then the kids are started told like you're supposed to do that, that's real bad.
01:10:09.000I don't think, unless it's like grown in a lab, I don't think you can make an artificial thing that will have the same sexual gratification as the real thing.
01:12:02.000Well, it's led by billionaires like Elon Musk.
01:12:04.000And the people that they say the motivation behind the transition, you know, people want to live forever.
01:12:09.000That's the motivation to the transhumanistic movement.
01:12:12.000It's like these really rich people want to live longer.
01:12:15.000And I think that people are more motivated to do that than ever.
01:12:17.000So I think that's why selfishly Elon Musk is into Neuralink because he wants to hook his brain up to a computer so his brain will work forever.
01:12:43.000We got one more segment, and then we're going to talk about the film.
01:12:53.000Yeah, anyway, so from the postmillennial, misguided Keeping Families Together Act linked to increase in child mortality in Washington state.
01:13:02.000A disturbing rise in child deaths and near fatalities across Washington state has ignited intense backlash against the controversial Keeping Families Together Act, with critics accusing the law of keeping vulnerable children in dangerous homes with drug-addicted parents under a misguided attempt at family preservation.
01:13:20.000During a four-hour meeting on Thursday, the Washington State Department of Youth, Children, and Families Oversight Board was presented with grim data from the Office of the Family and Children's umbuds.
01:13:32.000OFCO Director Patrick Dowd revealed that 45 children died or nearly died between April and June of 2025, just two fewer than the already alarming 47 cases reported in the first quarter.
01:13:45.000Dowd said the deaths are a part of a growing trend his office could no longer ignore.
01:13:50.000We didn't want to give the impression that things are getting better when, in fact, we had preliminary information for 2025 that might paint a very different picture, Dow told the board.
01:13:59.000We wanted to paint a picture of where things were headed.
01:14:02.000Who would have thought that if you allow heroin using parents to keep children in houses with them, that there would be a rise in the mortality rate?
01:14:23.000Yeah, I would agree with that, but still these, I don't know, some of these groups are just...
01:14:29.000Yeah, I was about to say, I've interviewed a lot of homeless people and drug addicts.
01:14:33.000Check it out on YouTube 67 Kevin Drugs of the City to see these documentaries where there's actual interviews of these moms that have had their children taken away, and then they said the children have been trafficked by these groups.
01:14:46.000And, you know, I don't know what it's like, but these children also have a connection to the mother and you're ripping the child away from the mom.
01:14:53.000And I heard these stories where the mom, mom and the child, they would find each other, like the child would run away from the protective service to find the mom every day and stories like that.
01:15:03.000So if the services were better, I would agree.
01:15:07.000But I think that they're corrupt to the core too, just from the stories that I've heard.
01:15:11.000Well, so you've got, it seems you've got two options, right?
01:15:15.000You've got keeping children with the drug-using parents or the state takes them.
01:15:21.000And the state, which is, you're articulating terrible results with that as well, which is worse.
01:15:40.000There's never going to be a perfect solution for anything.
01:15:42.000You're going to do something and there's going to be externalities and then you have to make a decision.
01:15:49.000Are the externalities worse than before you started whatever policy that you're dealing with?
01:15:54.000And you make a good point, but here's the thing, too.
01:15:57.000You have to think of the emotional effect on the mother and things like that, because when they have their child taken away, then they double down on the drugs, you know, and they overdose and things like that, because that's their connection to life at that point.
01:16:10.000And sometimes that transforms their lives.
01:16:12.000When they see the child, they're like, I'm going to do less drugs.
01:16:14.000You know, not all the time, but having that child around, I think, is an inspiration for people to be better.
01:16:20.000So I used to consider myself a libertarian and I was pro legalization of most drugs because the argument was, well, it's bad to interject the state and have police have to pick people up for doing drugs and you ruin lives because of it.
01:16:39.000And I think that the evidence that California, Portland, and Washington State or Portland and Seattle have given us when you decriminalize the actual really hard drugs, I think that it's shown, that's really what changed my mind because not only do you end up with people doing drugs, people that want to do drugs, they can't function in a normal life.
01:17:06.000So you get homeless people because if you're trying to get heroin all the time, you always end up with a drug den.
01:17:13.000If you watch Breaking Bad, the houses that are in the show are based on what real drug dens and houses of heroin addicts and opiate users and whatever type of drug they'd use.
01:17:25.000That is really representative of what their houses look like.
01:17:29.000And it is not more compassionate to allow people to live on the streets or in filth and do drugs than to put them in prison to get them to stop or put them into, you know, make there be too much pressure for them to just sit around and do drugs, right?
01:17:48.000So you have to tell homeless people, move along.
01:17:51.000You can't just sit here and you have to say, we're going to arrest you.
01:17:54.000Because to allow them is to not just destroy their lives, but it's also to allow them to destroy neighborhoods and destroy the property of other people and the property values of other people and ruin the lives of people that just want to go to the park with their kids and et cetera.
01:18:11.000So it used to be like that, but I'm not anymore.
01:18:13.000And I'm interested in your take on that.
01:18:33.000And then when you look at the Northwest, like you said, I did a documentary on Portland because, you know, in Oregon, they legalized all the drugs there.
01:18:41.000The repercussions of that is incredible.
01:18:44.000We're still, it's still being felt because addiction is still holding these people.
01:18:49.000Well, I would argue it's the drug's fault, though.
01:18:51.000I know that sounds crazy because there's a lot of people that use marijuana that are successful.
01:18:57.000But now, because of fentanyl, because of the synthetic opioids that are just so available and that are being smuggled in, it's just different.
01:19:03.000Like if everybody was just smoking weed, the world would be, you know, we'd be a little dumber and slower, but it wouldn't be as bad.
01:19:08.000But now with these synthetic opioids that are just incredibly cheap, we're screwed.
01:19:13.000And until we stop China from importing them, just like they're going to be in everything.
01:19:17.000Because even if a person buys a Xanax, they buy a pain pill.
01:19:54.000Well, I interviewed a DEA guy recently and he told me there's seven to nine different drugs that are inside of each different hit now that people call fentanyl.
01:20:17.000Like years ago, like a lot of people that I used to, like part of my friend group, I have been to at least three funerals of people that have died from heroin the first time they did it.
01:20:36.000There's a lot of people that OD'd and died, but it's exponentially worse now.
01:20:39.000But we really, actually, we say all these stats, there's over 100,000 fentanyl drug overdose this past year, but there's actually over 100,000 alcohol-related deaths.
01:20:48.000So actually, there's much more than that.
01:20:49.000I think alcohol-related deaths, there's like hundreds of thousands.
01:20:52.000That's including accident, the car accidents.
01:20:53.000Yeah, it's not even, I don't even think it includes accidents either.
01:20:55.000So I'm saying alcohol really is the most dangerous drug, but that's socially acceptable.
01:21:00.000So when it comes to drugs, I kind of used to be like you two, like, hey, we should probably almost say a little decriminalized, but now in this modern era, no, we need to, we do need to help people, though, when they get arrested for this.
01:21:09.000And the term drugs is so vague because especially with this divergence diaspora of the fentanyl and weed, completely different realms of chemical.
01:21:18.000And that's like saying, how'd you get so fat?
01:22:45.000The metabolic rate of people is different and someone's metabolic rate may be faster and their resting, you know, their daily burning of calories just from doing their normal activities is higher than someone else's.
01:23:29.000So it takes more calories to chew, but the eating chewing stuff inside that takes your body more like there's very little actual like fiber and calorie content in celery is the point that you're making.
01:23:44.000Your body processing it, like picking it up, chewing it, swallowing it, processing it through your digestive tract takes more calories to do than the actual piece of celery has in it.
01:23:59.000Well, I kind of tangent it into food, but we're talking about just being specific with drugs because I'm kind of with you, Phil, about legalizing drugs.
01:24:17.000But like edible and stuff, that chemical, that whole, you know, the way they made it illegal was like William Randolph Hearst in the 1920s had all the paper mills and he had a bunch of trees and he wanted to get a monopoly on the on the paper industry.
01:25:56.000Like they can add a compound to it and make it legally.
01:25:58.000So that's why all the fentanyl is able to go to Mexico.
01:26:01.000And that's why they're able to smuggle it up the border because in China, every time they shut one down, they just make more fentanyl with some other chemical.
01:26:07.000And then technically, to the letter of the law, it's legal for them to produce it.
01:26:10.000So that's what's happening with a synthetic weed is they get this hemp and then they add chemicals to it.
01:26:14.000And yes, you have an effect where it makes you feel like you're high, but it's not a good high.
01:26:21.000It's like it just makes you feel kind of sick almost.
01:26:24.000The healing properties of CBD are fascinating.
01:26:26.000And that comes from just the plant itself, the cannabidiol.
01:28:33.000So actually, the documentary is only going to be available on Rumble.
01:28:39.000So you have to sign up for rumble.com to see this after the debut on Monday.
01:28:46.000But if you want to go ahead and talk a little bit about what your experience was like making this and how you got into it.
01:28:52.000Yeah, no, this was an adventure, man, an adventure of a lifetime.
01:28:56.000I had been reporting on the border for last three years or so, but I wanted to do something more boots on the ground, and Tim was down for it.
01:29:04.000So I went through Panama, through the Darien Gap, followed the journey of migrants, talked to deportees.
01:29:09.000Can you talk a little bit about what it was like to go through the Darien Gap?
01:29:12.000Because that's kind of the area where there is no actual road from South America to North America, correct?
01:29:19.000So the skinniest point in Central America is there in Panama and the Darien.
01:30:43.000So like, I mean, they're just literally just have a, I mean, I see the backpacks and you see them walking, but how much of the Darien Gap do you walk?
01:30:49.000I mean, it's just like the, it's just like the desert, kind of, I mean, river jungle, 60 miles of the most dangerous jungle in the world.
01:30:56.000And 10% of the migrants died on their journey going Through there.
01:31:01.000And it was millions during Biden's time.
01:31:02.000So there's just dead bodies everywhere.
01:31:09.000They'll just be like floating down the river.
01:31:10.000And they told me stories of just seeing like dead infants floating down the river because there's separations that happen between parent and child in the Darien, a lot of trafficking that goes on.
01:31:22.000And that was the other big part of this documentary that I didn't go into it thinking it would be, but we went after the missing migrant children.
01:31:29.000There's hundreds of thousands of missing migrant children.
01:31:31.000We found Walmart's just filled with children.
01:31:34.000And they're being dropped off to sponsors that are not properly vetted.
01:31:38.000So we went door knocking to see where these kids were dropped off to.
01:31:42.000Isn't it like Catholic charities a lot of the times that are the ones that are doing a lot of like picking up the kids?
01:31:47.000Yeah, so there's a lot of Catholic charities are involved.
01:31:50.000The United Nations are involved and the cartels.
01:32:31.000I thought you were going to say, like, no, not really, but I didn't expect you to say, actually, Israel is the most important country and the most powerful country when it comes to the illegal immigration that they are going to get.
01:32:46.000It was founded as that, and they kind of took that idea of the exodus of the Jews from Egypt, and they kind of aliken that to the Venezuelans and other migrants today.
01:33:34.000So can you do me a favor and go on a little bit more about those?
01:33:39.000What I learned about is it's those organizations like Highest the United Nations that if we don't cut the funding to them, mass migration will continue.
01:33:48.000And that's what I was talking to a lot of the migrants that are, I talked to deportees in Mexico.
01:33:53.000These are NGOs you're talking about, right?
01:35:32.000Shut down immigration for five years or so until we can actually have the people that have immigrated here allow them to actually assimilate.
01:35:40.000Because the point you're making about melting pot, I agree.
01:35:43.000But the point of a melting pot was people become American.
01:36:02.000So I think that we should shut down immigration to the United States except for O1 visas, not B1, or not H1, but the actual you've got a special talent visa.
01:36:11.000Shut down immigration for five to 10 years, and only exceptional cases get to come in, and then we can revisit it.
01:36:18.000Yeah, well, first of all, no, that's gay because that would mean less big booty Latinas in this country.
01:38:27.000The illegal person that works at Burger King will, they might be harder to understand, will do their job cooking the french fries and making the burger better than Yolanda, who's mad that her baby daddy is on Facebook cheating on her with her, you know, cousins.
01:38:40.000You think we need a small trickle of illegal immigrants to cover some of the jobs?
01:38:45.000Yeah, we need somebody to bring the weed in.
01:40:02.000Most of the illegal immigrants that came in in the last four years, they went into blue cities and they received free money from the taxpayers.
01:40:11.000I got the documents for how much they were getting free housing.
01:40:25.000I'm talking about the people that are actually working because there's a difference.
01:40:27.000There are illegal immigrants that went to the Roosevelt Hotel and got a free hotel room.
01:40:30.000Those people kick rocks, get the hell out of here.
01:40:32.000But if you actually are coming here and you're working a job, I think that is significantly different than coming to America just for the social services.
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01:42:55.000Then the email, they turned off the email.
01:42:57.000But the one that put it over the top, and this is why I want to personally say thank you because I'm going to be a part of the first episode with Gavin and Matan next weekend.
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01:43:25.000If I understand correctly, the information that I got was that the actual owner was out of town.
01:44:50.000I do think that, you know, it's important to obviously go rebuy your tickets, but I think that this particular issue, there's probably a lot of people that are going to be like, oh, yeah, I want to go and ask.
01:44:58.000And yeah, there's going to be protesters there.
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01:47:05.000Started with a Novation bass station and just kind of melded notes together and used a lot of sounds like bullets and different cartel sounds to make it more real.
01:47:19.000Did you just watch the movie and trance out and hear something?
01:47:22.000So we kind of, it was more of like a back and forth process where Kevin would tell me what he was looking for and then he would give me clips and I would write something that I thought would fit.
01:47:33.000And he would use, I gave him all the stems, so he would use them in different ways.
01:47:38.000And yeah, it was like, you know, making a music video that was two hours.
01:47:42.000Yeah, his music is underneath like about an hour of this film, which is wild, whether it's just sounds, tones, or fully scored bits.
01:48:22.000So yeah, there was a story that came out today that we actually didn't cover, but the Microsoft cloud services that the DOD was using, I believe they were hosted in China or China had access to it.
01:48:38.000Serge is actually digging it up right now.
01:48:39.000Yeah, China had been involved in constructing some of the tech they were using.
01:49:00.000Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth said the Pentagon was looking into a cloud computing program run by Microsoft utilizing foreign workers from China, which was criticized this week for potentially lacking adequate safeguards, which could provide the CCP easy access to classified defense data and systems.
01:49:17.000Look, there are people out there, and there's a lot of reasons why I don't consider myself a libertarian anymore, but one of the things that actually bothers me is there is this idea that China is not an adversary and they are not actively looking to harm the United States when it comes to economically libertarians.
01:49:40.000Libertarians believe that the United States, generally, and I'm not, I can't speak for all libertarians, but generally the sense is that China and Russia and basically every country in the world would not have a negative opinion of the United States were it not for the behavior of the United States.
01:49:57.000So basically it's the U.S.'s fault for everything.
01:50:03.000And that if we just trade with them, then everything will be fine.
01:50:08.000We don't really have a particularly aggressive foreign policy posture with China.
01:50:13.000There's obviously disputes about Taiwan, but even Taiwan, the United States, has a strategic ambiguity policy on it.
01:50:20.000And they don't specifically say, oh, we would defend Taiwan, or I don't even think that any administration actually says that Taiwan is its own country.
01:50:30.000I think that they say that it's something to piss off China.
01:50:36.000The United States and China are adversaries, and China will do everything they can to beat the United States in every single place you can possibly imagine.
01:50:48.000Well, and I know a lot of people are probably going to get mad about this.
01:50:50.000Everybody wants to point to Israel being the bully, but I'm telling you, China is a bigger bully.
01:50:57.000And I talked about it earlier with the fentanyl, the fact that they're buying all the property.
01:51:00.000Like, China wants to take over America, but they want to do it covertly.
01:51:03.000Maybe other countries want to take over America covertly.
01:51:05.000You know, I'm not going to sit here and debate you, but China is such a big threat, especially all the people that I know that have died of drug overdoses, car dernose people too.
01:51:14.000I'm not saying Chinese people that you see every day are bad, but China, the country, does not care about America being successful.
01:51:21.000They want to try to undermine us from the inside out.
01:51:23.000So China, we talk, I hear a lot of people complain about Israel.
01:51:27.000China, I think, has caused much more irreparable damage, believe it or not.
01:52:40.000He said that he ate all meat, so he's going to say that he was in ketosis the entire time, so that his body was using stored fat the entire time.
01:52:46.000But still, if you eat too many calories, your body will store the excess fat.
01:52:49.000If you ate rib eyes for every single meal and you sat on your butt and you were taking in 5,000 calories a year.
01:52:55.00010,000 calories of broccoli, you would gain weight.
01:52:58.000If you ate that much of it, that is just the way that it works.
01:53:01.000Keep in mind, you don't count the calories.
01:53:32.000Is the time-restricted eating where I won't eat till about 5 p.m. in the afternoon and then I won't eat, you know, I only eat for like a four-hour window.
01:53:41.000And you're, and that all, there's, there's multiple different ways for you to take in fewer calories, but the re part of the reason is because you're restricting how much time you have to eat.
01:53:52.000So you're restricting the amount of calories that you eat.
01:55:54.000I know, like, we're very threatened by it, but like creatively, that's not going to be as good or maybe as creative, but like there is ways where you can make your art better by using.
01:56:15.000It's like the person, the Uber, the Uber Eats driver that he might drive in New York City for 10 years, but because he used the app the whole time, he still doesn't know how to get around without the app.
01:56:24.000So there's a thing where you have to train your brain to learn this stuff.
01:56:28.000So that's why if people that are using AI to write simple stuff, don't do that.
01:56:32.000If it's a simple thing, write it yourself, even if it's kind of shitty.
01:56:34.000Because once you stop doing that skill, you'll lose it.
01:56:37.000And then you're not going to be able to write a sentence.
01:57:23.000Because I saw you arguing that, and I'm not even trying to debate you on it, but are you one of the guys on Twitter that are saying, I'm just trying to see if you're in that camp where it's not that important that it's old news?
01:57:32.000I think that if there's evidence to people actually doing something like that, arrest them, prosecute them.
01:57:40.000I'm not saying that we should move on.
01:57:42.000But considering the fact that we're inundated with it, we've talked about Epstein every single night.
01:57:50.000I talked about Epstein for two hours today on the culture war, and we talked about Epstein on two different topics tonight, and there's nothing new to say about it.
01:58:00.000So for me, I'm like, well, we've covered this.
01:58:16.000But to your point, what's even crazy is that I think we almost even knew more about it in 2016, in 2017, when like all the leaks originally happened because it was, it hadn't been whitewashed.
01:58:27.000Now, like we hear, it's the stories that I was hearing back then, and we can only say so much, but about like pizza parlors and this and that was some serious, seriously dark stuff.
01:58:37.000And now when you talk about the subject, it's not as dark as it was.
01:58:39.000So I'd almost say that it's, it's gotten this issue is like, remember when the, the guy went to the comet ping pong with a rifle?
01:58:47.000That is when people were like really pissed.
01:58:48.000Like that was the kind of the breaking point of if you were in that conservative, the conspiracy world, you're like, we want answers, we want answers.
01:58:54.000And there was more information about Jeffrey Epstein back then than you can find now.
01:59:01.000But and to his, again, to his point, this is important, very important to a very narrow group of people.
01:59:09.000There's two different groups of people that really, really care about it.
01:59:12.000And who should be really passionate about victims of childhood sexual abuse?
01:59:15.000The point that I'm making is there are people that are really passionate about it that believe that there are a lot of people involved that have actually assaulted and abused a lot of children and whatnot.
01:59:27.000And then there are people that believe that Epstein is the key to uncovering the fact that Israel controls the United States.
01:59:36.000Those two groups of people are the most passionate.
01:59:39.000And they just assume that everyone agrees that, oh, there's obviously hundreds of children that have been violated by hundreds of people.
01:59:51.000Personally, I think that Epstein, I mean, obviously he did do bad things with children.
01:59:57.000I don't think that it's as pervasive as some people do.
02:00:00.000I don't think that there's dozens of people that have been to Epstein Island that have abused hundreds of children.
02:00:07.000Now, I know that there are multiple of them that are.
02:00:10.000And if there's evidence that there's been more than I think and that there are people that need to be indicted and arrested, absolutely.
02:00:19.000But the presumption that, oh, well, you know, it's pervasive throughout the government and everybody that's in the bureaucracy is involved and it'll take down so many blah, blah, blah.
02:00:37.000Lead lust says, what do you think about Trump pardoning Julian Assange and Edward Snowden on the condition that they be the team to investigate Epstein with full clearance?
02:00:47.000Do you think people would believe the results?
02:00:52.000I don't know if that would change your credibility if they did the investigation.
02:00:54.000Like I said this today on the culture where I'm of the opinion that people that believe, that already have a formed opinion about the Epstein situation, unless you produce evidence that confirms their bias, they will not think that it's enough.
02:01:11.000So the people that are like, you know, that are like, oh, it's all about Israel.
02:01:15.000Well, like, if you don't produce evidence that connects Israel to Epstein.
02:01:20.000Well, you know, the connection, though, Robert Maxwell, Bingle Ann Maxwell.
02:01:24.000The point that I'm making is if you don't produce evidence that this is the linchpin that undoes Israel's puppet mastering of the United States government, then it's not going to be enough for them.
02:01:35.000And if you don't produce evidence for the people that believe that there's thousands of children that have been abused and stuff, if you don't produce evidence that confirms that, then it's not going to be enough for them.
02:01:44.000And this is a very narrow group of people.
02:01:47.000And there's all kinds of, there's been multiple polls.
02:01:50.000And for the normie people, and I represent the normies on this particular case, the normies, this is not a top line topic for them.
02:02:00.000It's salacious and people make a lot of noise about it because of the small group of people that are very committed and very, you know, think that it's very important.
02:02:10.000But when it comes to the average American, they're concerned with kitchen table issues.
02:02:14.000And as boring as that is, that's what most people are worried about.
02:02:31.000But Phil, I think you missed one huge pocket of people that the same reason they like the pedophile poachers content, a lot of people are sexually abused as a child, and so they want that justice.
02:02:41.000So if somebody like Jeffrey Epstein goes down, it just makes them sleep a little better at night, knowing that it's not a problem.
02:02:57.000I mean, look, look, at no point have I said we should stop investigations or that, you know, we should just, they should just let the sleeping dogs lie.
02:03:05.000I'm just saying that from my perspective, talking about every day when there's not actually new information, like the Wall Street Journal.
02:03:12.000We haven't gotten any new information in the past eight years.