Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump's Secret Plan To Make Charlie Kirk VP, America Fest IN CIVIL WAR | Timcast IRL

00:02:32.000 Hey, we're good.

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00:02:34.000 All right, my friends.

00:02:36.000 This is a breaking story.

00:02:38.000 Donald Trump had a secret plan to put Charlie Kirk.

00:02:42.000 You see, you guys.

00:02:43.000 I'm sorry.

00:02:44.000 You say they didn't turn the mics on?

00:02:45.000 What's going on?

00:02:46.000 Is it even coming through?

00:02:47.000 Welcome to our last show of the year, everybody.

00:02:49.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:02:50.000 We got big news.

00:02:51.000 Apparently, Donald Trump was planning to put Charlie Kirk in the White House.

00:02:54.000 After he left, the plan, according to the Daily Mail, was that Charlie Kirk would be the vice presidential candidate for JD Vance.

00:03:01.000 The plan was, should they go two terms, the next candidate in 2036 was going to be Charlie Kirk himself.

00:03:07.000 And everybody knew it, and that's why they've been saying it.

00:03:10.000 Now the reporting is out.

00:03:12.000 However, currently at Amfest, it's, I don't know, you know, I say civil war because it's shock titling or whatever, whatever you're going to call it.

00:03:21.000 It's in fighting.

00:03:22.000 People have just said it's a bit like walking on eggshells.

00:03:26.000 Half the people are upset with the other half of the people or something like this.

00:03:29.000 Ben Shapiro is ragging on Tucker and Megan Kelly.

00:03:31.000 And then Tucker comes out, laughs, and calls him pompous.

00:03:34.000 Everyone's fighting.

00:03:35.000 And it's pretty crazy.

00:03:39.000 We had Fresh and Fit.

00:03:40.000 You guys know Myron and Fresh.

00:03:42.000 They got barred.

00:03:44.000 And was it Fresh, right?

00:03:47.000 Yeah, Fresh.

00:03:47.000 He got walked off.

00:03:48.000 He got walked off by security.

00:03:50.000 And they're like, we don't know why.

00:03:51.000 And he's like, okay, I guess.

00:03:52.000 And then eventually they let him back in.

00:03:54.000 But you can see right now, the gatekeeping has begun, and the Republican Party and this machine is going to be reshaped into something else.

00:04:02.000 So it's happening.

00:04:04.000 Elise Defonic dropping out of the race in New York.

00:04:07.000 She's not going to run for Congress again.

00:04:09.000 Tons of people are retiring.

00:04:10.000 Troy Nails is retiring, I believe.

00:04:13.000 People are getting the F out of politics.

00:04:15.000 And I'll tell you this too.

00:04:17.000 I don't want to drag anybody, but some of the people that we've been talking to. abruptly at the last minute are like, you know what, I can't be involved in this.

00:04:23.000 We saw it in Maine.

00:04:24.000 People are terrified of being murdered, of being shot at.

00:04:27.000 And I think when I come out and say, hey, they shot at my studio, a lot of people are going to be like, dude, I don't want to be involved in whatever is going on right now.

00:04:34.000 What does that mean?

00:04:34.000 I honestly have no idea, but it's the last show of the year.

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00:08:12.000 Here's a story from the Daily Mail.

00:08:14.000 This is actually fairly wild.

00:08:16.000 Trump's secret succession plan to put Charlie Kirk in the Oval Office and groom a new, a shock new VP.

00:08:23.000 I'm going to lay it down for you.

00:08:24.000 It's very simple.

00:08:25.000 The plan was 2028, JD Vance, presidential ticket, Vance Kirk.

00:08:31.000 Charlie Kirk is the VP.

00:08:33.000 And it was perfect.

00:08:34.000 He was young.

00:08:35.000 It's going to be a few years from now.

00:08:36.000 He'd be old enough.

00:08:38.000 And then two terms, Charlie Kirk would be the next presidential candidate.

00:08:42.000 And he would be a relatively young, well-known high-profile guy.

00:08:47.000 His VP was going to be Don Jr., which makes a lot of sense.

00:08:52.000 Now, I wonder with the assassination, was it just something so simple as he's a guy whose politics we don't like?

00:09:00.000 Or was there perhaps a, we don't want this guy to win the presidency, some nefarious efforts.

00:09:06.000 I lean towards the very simple crackpot leftists planned this, and they wanted to stop Charlie Kirk.

00:09:12.000 But if I was going to be conspiratorial, I'd argue it's going to be machine state, deep state, whatever you might think.

00:09:17.000 Yeah, I mean, I think the shooting in and of itself demonstrated the gravity that Charlie Kirk had.

00:09:21.000 I mean, he had an entire apparatus behind him that he had built from scratch.

00:09:26.000 And whoever, the man that shot him, obviously was fully aware of that.

00:09:29.000 He knew what he was doing.

00:09:31.000 Michael Knowles made this point on his show, and it's something that not a lot of conservatives want to hear because it's like a sobering reality.

00:09:37.000 But what he said is that assassinations work.

00:09:39.000 That's why people do them.

00:09:41.000 And taking Charlie Kirk off the board, it wasn't this kumbaya moment.

00:09:45.000 Like, guys, we got to take it back.

00:09:47.000 Everyone was like, we're in trouble without Charlie Kirk.

00:09:49.000 Like, there's no doubt about it.

00:09:50.000 He occupied such a massive space on the right.

00:09:53.000 And I mean, I'm glad the Daily Mail is at least reporting that there was a plan in place, but I think it was going to be obvious that either way, he was going to be a presidential, certainly a candidate.

00:10:03.000 I mean, he held unbelievable weight in the conservative movement.

00:10:06.000 It would have just been inevitable, I think.

00:10:08.000 Yeah, I don't think there was a lot of people in the conservative movement.

00:10:12.000 I don't think there's anyone in the conservative movement that had the influence that Charlie did.

00:10:15.000 You know, his ability to reach out and talk to young people.

00:10:18.000 I saw basically a sizzle reel of all of the people that were just adoring Charlie the day that he was shot, right?

00:10:27.000 Like it was a three-month anniversary.

00:10:29.000 Someone put together a sizzle reel, and there was nothing gruesome in it.

00:10:32.000 It was about celebrating Charlie's life.

00:10:34.000 And even that day, just, you know, there's like 3,000 people there.

00:10:38.000 People were just stoked to see him.

00:10:40.000 And he was treated like a rock star, you know?

00:10:42.000 And when you have someone that is that influential and has that much goodwill towards him from a voting block, I mean, it's unstoppable when it comes to, at least politically, you know, it's something that was remarkable, honestly.

00:10:59.000 So it is obviously, it's a massive loss.

00:11:01.000 And it is good to hear the Daily Mail talking about this and putting this information out there.

00:11:07.000 Yeah, he's aptly dubbed the quarterback of the MAGA movement.

00:11:10.000 When your quarterback goes down, your offense grinds to a halt.

00:11:12.000 I mean, look what's happening at Amphest right now.

00:11:14.000 Look at all the things that have happened in the wake of Charlie Kirk.

00:11:17.000 I think it's just imploding right now.

00:11:20.000 I think we're looking at there's been a political elite civil war going on since Trump got in.

00:11:26.000 The Democrats, what did they, they called Trump the Pied Piper candidate.

00:11:31.000 They hoped that if Trump won the primary, the Republican primary, he would lead the Republicans in a direction that would cost them the election.

00:11:39.000 Trump won.

00:11:40.000 Whoopsie.

00:11:42.000 And since then, they have been doing everything in their power to destroy the right populist movement.

00:11:47.000 This with the taking out of Charlie, either through sheer convenience that some left wacko, you know, left line wacko did this, or somebody planned something.

00:11:55.000 Because I don't think for a second it's a lone shooter theory.

00:11:58.000 That's funny.

00:11:58.000 Because when I remember the day he got shot and I was talking with my wife and I said, you know, I said, if you want to watch this video, watch this video.

00:12:05.000 I suggest you don't.

00:12:06.000 And she's like, why would they do this?

00:12:09.000 What is it about him that makes him so important?

00:12:11.000 I said, he's such a likable guy.

00:12:14.000 And I said, most likely it's because he was making a presidential run at some point.

00:12:18.000 Or, you know, he would have been, what, 35 in 2028?

00:12:21.000 I mean, even if it's not a president, maybe he's vice president.

00:12:23.000 He's running with honest president.

00:12:24.000 This is the first time I've ever heard my suspicions, anyways, like confirmed.

00:12:28.000 But like, yeah, I mean, he was very popular.

00:12:31.000 You don't have to, he doesn't have to be a politician's politician.

00:12:34.000 I mean, he could just be a well-liked guy for his, you know, his views and his convictions and standing up for all that stuff.

00:12:41.000 Especially, give him another four years.

00:12:43.000 I think where's he then?

00:12:45.000 Yeah, where does he go afterwards?

00:12:46.000 Yeah, right.

00:12:47.000 I think, especially with the money they were raising.

00:12:49.000 I think the Tyler Robinson story is the closest to reality, but who knows?

00:12:54.000 However, this idea that he acted alone, I think, is silly, especially with his reporting that there were vehicles gathering outside his home and there was a meeting and people were going on social media and posting that they had foreknowledge of his assassination.

00:13:05.000 The most likely thing, it sounds like liberal activists, left-leaning progressive activists, plotted this, and it wasn't just because Charlie was hateful, it's because he was effective.

00:13:15.000 So I'm conspiracy 100% on this one.

00:13:20.000 I just think that the likely scenario would be Tyler Robinson working with other people of his political persuasion, not like, you know, I don't know what was happening.

00:13:27.000 My question was this.

00:13:28.000 Okay, let's just pure speculation here.

00:13:31.000 Let's say they run Charlie Kirk.

00:13:32.000 Who does the left run against Charlie Kirk in 2028?

00:13:34.000 Who do they put up there? 0.98

00:13:37.000 I think the ALC would go down just like Hillary went down because she's just not as likable as somebody is like Charlie Kirk. 0.85

00:13:42.000 I understand.

00:13:43.000 I don't think they need rock stars.

00:13:44.000 I don't think a woman can win the president. 1.00

00:13:45.000 Gavin Newsome.

00:13:46.000 They've already done a talk show together, Gavin and Charlie.

00:13:48.000 That's what I was thinking.

00:13:49.000 Gavin Newsome, but Gavin Newsome versus Charlie, man, Gavin Newsome looks like a snake.

00:13:53.000 He looks like a used car.

00:13:55.000 The only way a woman wins the presidency is if both parties nominate a woman. 0.99

00:13:59.000 And that means like through inner politicking, they make this woman happen.

00:14:03.000 The idea that a woman running against a man, I think it's almost always going to end up with the woman losing. 0.98

00:14:09.000 And it's funny because when I say this, the progressives go, Ken, sexist.

00:14:12.000 He says a woman can't win. 0.98

00:14:14.000 It's your argument.

00:14:15.000 It's that there are many men who would never vote for a woman.

00:14:19.000 I believe you are correct, liberals.

00:14:20.000 What if it was this?

00:14:21.000 Tulsi Gabbard for the Republican Party, and then the Democrats just bypassed the primary and selected with superdelegates some despicable, weak man that people thought was useless.

00:14:34.000 Let's play a game where hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:14:36.000 We got to do, I'm in, we're in Vegas.

00:14:38.000 Here's what we're going to do, brother.

00:14:39.000 We're going to walk on the strip up to some regular old people, some homies, and we're going to ask them, would you vote for a woman president? 1.00

00:14:45.000 And you know what's going to happen?

00:14:47.000 Half the guys are going to go, hell no.

00:14:48.000 Would you vote for an 88-year-old, fat, tired man, too?

00:14:52.000 And they'd be like, no.

00:14:55.000 I mean, what do you think?

00:14:55.000 Who would you vote already there?

00:14:57.000 They've already done so.

00:14:58.000 There's tons of videos already where they're like in Times Square and they're like, would you ever vote for a woman president?

00:15:03.000 And these young guys are like, never.

00:15:05.000 And they ask them, like, what if the candidate was like, you know, the crippled old man and they're like, nah, women shouldn't be president. 0.99

00:15:11.000 Even women don't know I wouldn't vote for a woman. 1.00

00:15:12.000 Yeah, there's lots of like attributes of a presidential candidate that negatively impact them potentially.

00:15:16.000 I mean, it's difficult for men that are short to sort of win the presidency.

00:15:21.000 It's difficult to win.

00:15:22.000 It's to actually win.

00:15:23.000 To actually win.

00:15:24.000 It's difficult for single men to win the presidency.

00:15:26.000 I mean, that was the biggest hit against Tim Scott in the primaries was that he was single and then just swirled like homosexual allegations.

00:15:33.000 It's like you need, but there's like, there's a lot of physical attributes that come into play because you're selling them on a package.

00:15:39.000 You're selling them on an aesthetic.

00:15:41.000 You're selling them on a vibe.

00:15:42.000 All of these things synthesize into a political shot.

00:15:46.000 Shouldn't have won.

00:15:47.000 Hillary Clinton was just very unlikable, politically evil, and there were a lot of people that don't want to vote for a woman. 1.00

00:15:54.000 Yeah, I mean, people downplay the actual effect that has when people see her next to Trump on a debate stage where he's towering above her, wide shoulders.

00:16:01.000 He's like a total alpha.

00:16:03.000 And then Hillary's this tiny little stumpy woman in a pantsuit. 1.00

00:16:05.000 Kamala Harris requested that her podium and the debate be smaller so that it looked proportionate to her body, like Trump on camera. 0.82

00:16:12.000 Wow.

00:16:12.000 Because most people were only seeing Kamala and then Trump and back and forth.

00:16:16.000 And the camera zooms were made to make them look the same size on TV.

00:16:20.000 But when you were there, she had a teeny little podium and he had a very big one.

00:16:23.000 So Tim Waltz, Democratic nominee versus Tulsi Gabbard.

00:16:28.000 You think Tim Waltz would win?

00:16:29.000 Yes.

00:16:30.000 Really?

00:16:31.000 That's tough.

00:16:31.000 I mean, Rolo's the same.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, we're going to speculate that.

00:16:37.000 Tim Waltz wins.

00:16:38.000 And I'll say this.

00:16:40.000 I like Tulsi Gabbard as well.

00:16:41.000 But I remember her performance in 2020, and she did some really good things, but it was not X Factor level 10.

00:16:51.000 It was not up there.

00:16:52.000 And also in this hypothetical, you're dealing with someone that used to be a Democrat.

00:16:56.000 There would be plenty of Republicans that would come out and say, no, she's actually a Democrat. 1.00

00:17:00.000 Remember, she used to this and used to that, et cetera.

00:17:02.000 And so they wouldn't trust her to be an actual conservative.

00:17:04.000 I'll give you this, Ian.

00:17:05.000 She's also Krishna, too.

00:17:07.000 A woman can beat a man if it is intentionally uniparty propping up a loser guy who's not. 1.00

00:17:12.000 That's what I wonder.

00:17:13.000 Okay, so like Tim Waltz, so Tim Waltz absolutely can lose to some women for sure. 1.00

00:17:21.000 I guess, so I agree with you, and I stand corrected.

00:17:23.000 I correct my position.

00:17:24.000 What I'm saying is a legitimate race with a real primary, and real, I mean, with super delegates and all that, where they actually are like, we want this female. 1.00

00:17:32.000 Female's not going to be the guy. 1.00

00:17:33.000 If the Democrats collude with the Republicans and say, we're going to pick a guy who's literally in a coma, and then you're going to pick a charismatic woman, then the woman's probably going to win. 0.97

00:17:43.000 Yeah.

00:17:44.000 Like a, like a, and Nikki Haley pulls really well against Democrat candidates purely because she's not really threatening to the sort of regime as it stands in any way. 1.00

00:17:52.000 If you want to bring in like a truly formidable paradigm changing candidate, they're going to be a male because you're going to have to sell them on the additional factors.

00:17:58.000 So Trump, that's what Trump had to be.

00:18:00.000 I was going to say, I wrote this essay probably about a year after the Trump Hillary in 2016, right?

00:18:07.000 And I spelled it out this way is Hillary was so unlikable and was such the, she's like the epitome of feminism. 1.00

00:18:17.000 She's like the most foaming at the mouth. 1.00

00:18:20.000 If you want to say like, you know, what does a feminist look like? 1.00

00:18:23.000 You're going to go to Hillary Clinton, right?

00:18:25.000 You're going to look at her.

00:18:26.000 She's like this kaiju of feminism. 1.00

00:18:30.000 There's only one other person, one male on planet Earth that is as big a kaiju as you know, it's like Godzilla versus Rodan or something.

00:18:41.000 And you got Hillary on one side, and then you've got Trump on the other side. 0.99

00:18:44.000 Trump is the only one who is so over-the-top masculine that he could possibly be a contender against somebody who is so over-the-top feminist as she is.

00:18:54.000 And so, like, if you think about it this way, though, everybody thought that Hillary was going to win so much so that Newsweek had the covers already prepared for it.

00:19:02.000 What was it?

00:19:02.000 Remember that show, House of Cards?

00:19:06.000 House of Cards changed the plot of House of Cards, expecting there to be a female president in the Super Bowl ads of, well, I guess it would have been 2017 at that point.

00:19:16.000 The Super Bowl ads had to all go back and rejigger all of their Super Bowl ads that they'd shot six months prior because they shot them with the intention of building up little girls to be the next female president because they were so certain that Hillary was going to be the next or the first female president. 0.97

00:19:33.000 Everybody thought that whips in there and nobody wanted to. 1.00

00:19:37.000 Let me tell you about one of the greatest days of my life.

00:19:39.000 I was sitting there watching the New York Times probability meter, greater than 99% Hillary Clinton.

00:19:46.000 And then every 10 minutes, every few minutes, it's just moving.

00:19:49.000 I remember when I got to 50-50 and I'm sitting there and I'm just, I'm sorry, I put my feet up, I'm laughing.

00:19:55.000 And then I remember when it ticked over to Trump winning.

00:19:57.000 I didn't vote for Trump.

00:19:59.000 I just absolutely loved watching Hillary Clinton get just destroyed in the election because I can't stand these people. 1.00

00:20:06.000 But I will say this: JD Vance, tall guy, Don Jr., tall guy, Charlie Kirk, he was like eight feet tall.

00:20:11.000 Yeah.

00:20:12.000 Yeah.

00:20:12.000 I think he was 6'5, right?

00:20:13.000 Yeah, well, because it contributes to like, it's tough to quantify aura, but aura genuinely does come into play.

00:20:18.000 This is like why Howard Dean got smoked in the polls right after that scream because he lost all his aura.

00:20:24.000 You also want to, we're hiring a military commander and you want a tall man that can see over the heads of the dudes in front of him.

00:20:29.000 I mean, that's the genetic, real animalistic reason we want to talk.

00:20:33.000 Deep voice as well.

00:20:35.000 Let's jump to this story from Politico.

00:20:36.000 MAGA infighting erupts at Turning Point USA Conference.

00:20:40.000 Two of the Night's headliners, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson threw jabs at each other in their speeches.

00:20:45.000 And I'm hearing now that people are like, it's pretty tense because you've got different factions now that are basically going to odds with each other.

00:20:52.000 Check this out from Dom Lucre.

00:20:54.000 This is a video of them kicking out fresh from the Fresh and Fit podcast.

00:21:01.000 Look at this.

00:21:04.000 So he's filming.

00:21:04.000 This is fresh filming.

00:21:11.000 Yeah.

00:21:12.000 Thanks for being cool, Batman.

00:21:13.000 Cool.

00:21:14.000 But did it say what I did or isn't there?

00:21:16.000 No, I know.

00:21:17.000 Damn.

00:21:19.000 All right.

00:21:20.000 Let's think about this.

00:21:21.000 Well, can tell, apparently, I don't know why.

00:21:24.000 But that's crazy, right?

00:21:34.000 Apparently, they also barred Myron from coming in as well, but then later reverse and let them both come back in.

00:21:39.000 They both got back in.

00:21:40.000 I think it's very obvious.

00:21:42.000 There is a mega civil war.

00:21:44.000 And I'm telling you, I think who's going to win is going to be the Romney-esque conservatives.

00:21:50.000 And then the, I'll put it like this because we talked about it a little bit yesterday.

00:21:55.000 I got asked by a reporter from the Wall Street Journal about what thought was going on.

00:21:57.000 And I said, well, we weren't invited.

00:21:58.000 They invited me back after the fact for whatever reason.

00:22:01.000 And I was like, we're booked.

00:22:02.000 I'm just not going to do it.

00:22:03.000 And I got to be honest, I really don't want to be there.

00:22:07.000 With this, with all the stuff going on, with all this bickering, bitching, infighting, I don't know what is going on with this, but I will tell you this.

00:22:14.000 I do not care for the suit-wearing Republican Party.

00:22:17.000 Never did.

00:22:18.000 Democrats are absolutely insane.

00:22:21.000 They're insane people who do things that are insane for insane reasons.

00:22:25.000 For that reason, I voted for Republicans.

00:22:27.000 Donald Trump's different.

00:22:28.000 I like JD Vance, but I don't like the stodgy Bush-era suit-wearing conservatives.

00:22:35.000 And what Amphest is turning into is guy in suit comes out, says Christianity, guy in suit comes out, says immigration.

00:22:40.000 And I'm like, well, it's not really for me.

00:22:43.000 Now you've got infighting.

00:22:45.000 Now you've got the people screaming about Zejus.

00:22:47.000 And I'm just like, yo, if that's the direction you're going, I'm not interested.

00:22:50.000 And so I'll say this one thing.

00:22:52.000 Jillian Michaels, shout out. 1.00

00:22:54.000 She's on that show with PBD's. 0.90

00:22:56.000 What is it?

00:22:57.000 Her take.

00:22:58.000 Yeah, Culture.

00:22:58.000 And they're like, let's make a view for real people.

00:23:00.000 And this viral clip happened where Anna Kasparan brings up Israel again.

00:23:04.000 And Jillian Michael goes, oh my God, I did not come here to just talk about Israel non-stop.

00:23:09.000 And she gets up and leaves.

00:23:11.000 The anti-Israel people framed it as though Jillian refused to criticize Israel.

00:23:16.000 The real story is that Anna Kasparin brings up Israel all the time.

00:23:19.000 And Jillian's actual complaint is, I get it already.

00:23:22.000 Can we talk about something else?

00:23:25.000 If this is the direction they're going, it's going to be Zejus with like Candace Owens, or it's going to be suit-wearing, you know, Bush-era interventionist, boring, no, like, I'm not there.

00:23:38.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:23:39.000 I don't know who in the Democratic Party I'm voting for because they're insane too.

00:23:43.000 But I have a potential prediction based on what we're seeing now with the mega civil war, what you want to call it.

00:23:49.000 I don't know how likely it will be, but I believe there's a decent probability a Rogan-esque Democrat emerges.

00:23:56.000 I mean, like Joe Roganesque, who says, I don't know what's going on with the Republicans.

00:24:01.000 He's going to be wearing a flannel.

00:24:03.000 He's going to be like big into MMA.

00:24:05.000 He's going to be a reasonable guy.

00:24:06.000 He's going to be friends with comedians.

00:24:08.000 And he's going to say.

00:24:10.000 The Republicans are going weird on me, man, just like the Democrats used to.

00:24:14.000 I'm going to try and save the Democratic Party and bring it back to normalcy.

00:24:17.000 And then this person could advocate against the weird trends and the kids stuff, push out the weird, far-lefty cultural stuff, keep the far-lefty economic stuff, and be someone who appears reasonable to working-class Americans and actually win.

00:24:32.000 Republicans are still have a better approval rating than Democrats.

00:24:36.000 Democrats are still in the toilet.

00:24:38.000 So, I mean, the Republicans still could make something out of this, but if they're fighting with each other about who's going to actually be in charge of the Republican Party, because that's the sense that I get about the Amphest stuff, right?

00:24:52.000 Like the fight is now, okay, we want to keep the people that we find offensive or we find distasteful.

00:25:00.000 We want to keep them out, and we want this to go back to the kind of Romney-esque, normal, quote-unquote, Republicans.

00:25:06.000 But that's not what the MAGA coalition is.

00:25:08.000 The MAGA coalition wasn't exclusive.

00:25:10.000 It didn't kick people out.

00:25:11.000 And so Republicans can make something of this and capitalize on really historic low favorability for the Democrats.

00:25:20.000 But if they're going to exclude people, they're going to be giving away votes.

00:25:24.000 Well, I think there's two points.

00:25:25.000 I mean, one, I do think Vance is probably the only person in the party right now that's capable of stitching the coalition together.

00:25:31.000 He's demonstrated that he is the best at framing probably the entire Republican Party.

00:25:35.000 I was talking to Phil earlier about this.

00:25:37.000 The moment that I really realized Vance is the guy, I mean, I always liked him.

00:25:40.000 I always supported him, and I was excited when he was a VP candidate.

00:25:43.000 But when I realized, like, oh, this is the guy for 28 was after the political article came out about the group chat leak.

00:25:48.000 And, you know, everyone on the right was like kind of unsure how to handle it.

00:25:51.000 Do we condemn these kids?

00:25:52.000 Do we throw them under the bus?

00:25:53.000 And then Vance comes out and says, I don't really care about a group chat leak when the AG candidate in Virginia is threatening to kill Republicans.

00:26:00.000 Like, you guys need to clean up your side before we ever consider hall monitoring our side.

00:26:06.000 So I do think Vance is probably the only guy that's capable of stitching that coalition together, but the knives are out for him from both the neocons and sort of the Groyper aligned people.

00:26:15.000 But I do think with the Democrats, they're going to struggle to actually present sort of a moderate MMA type of guy because they're beholden to their base.

00:26:23.000 And that's sort of the issue in the Democrat Party is the base has no appetite whatsoever to Ayron Fresh wanted to send you a video.

00:26:30.000 They're doing faster than they wanted to.

00:26:31.000 Oh, right on.

00:26:33.000 Oh, right on.

00:26:34.000 Shout out to Freshman Fit.

00:26:35.000 They're in Amfest now.

00:26:36.000 I'm glad they got in.

00:26:37.000 I just think next year they're not going to be let in.

00:26:40.000 And that's going to be bad for the Republican Party.

00:26:43.000 Well, no, I was going to say their base has no appetite to moderate right now.

00:26:46.000 And then here's the primary issue for a moderate Democrat if they were to try to merge on the national scene is they're also beholden to staffers.

00:26:53.000 And so when you're trying to staff a campaign, when you're trying to staff an administration, the problem is in the Democrat Party on the left is they're all functionally activists.

00:27:01.000 They all believe they're in perpetual revolution.

00:27:03.000 And so, okay, let's say, okay, maybe a Rogan type of guy does come along who's maybe a bit more moderate.

00:27:08.000 He's going to instantly get pushed to the left by his staff.

00:27:11.000 Like, it's not a one-man army.

00:27:12.000 A political campaign is really a conglomeration of everybody within that campaign.

00:27:16.000 Yeah, I just, to your point, I just saw a tweet earlier.

00:27:19.000 Owen Wilson, who's the guy, or no, Owen Jones, I'm sorry.

00:27:23.000 Owen Wilson.

00:27:24.000 Owen Jones, he's a politico in, he's a commentator in the UK, and he made, he, he misgendered someone in some kind of online discussion or whatever, and he was getting lambasted by people.

00:27:37.000 So the idea that woke has gone away is totally wrong.

00:27:41.000 And that's still very, very influential on the left.

00:27:44.000 So, someone that would be a Rogan-esque kind of everyman's man, the feminists are not going to get behind him. 1.00

00:27:50.000 The intersectionalists are not going to get behind him.

00:27:53.000 I'm glad you brought up Rogan-esque because the first thing that happened right after Trump got into office, you have all these talk shows that we're talking, how did we lose?

00:28:01.000 I can't believe we're trying to analyze how they lost.

00:28:03.000 And the very first thing they said was, you know, well, it's, I think it was Dana Bash was the first one to mention that we're living in the manosphere right now.

00:28:11.000 Literally, I still have that, I still have that clip.

00:28:13.000 But I watched all these talk shows in the sort of aftermath of the election, and they were all saying, Well, we don't have a Jordan Peterson, we don't have a Theo Fawn, we don't have a Joe Rogan, we don't have a, you know, somebody who's like popular with the boys.

00:28:29.000 You know, how do we get the men to come back to the to the Democrat Party?

00:28:35.000 Well, you never had them in the first place.

00:28:37.000 In fact, you actively ran them out of the party.

00:28:39.000 But now they're trying to, I'm seeing the rise of this sort of character right now.

00:28:43.000 And I'm just going to use Scott Galloway as the example here.

00:28:47.000 But Scott Galloway is that he's the safest edge lord that there is right now.

00:28:51.000 And he'll go on Oprah.

00:28:53.000 He'll go on, you know, he'll go on with Chris Williamson.

00:28:55.000 He'll go on these guys.

00:28:56.000 And it's always these half measures, but it always comes back to sort of, you know, he wants to address the fact that young men are having issues and problems these days, but then he'll turn around somehow and make it the same people's fault for that.

00:29:10.000 But I see what they're trying to do.

00:29:11.000 They're trying to sort of groom a figure.

00:29:14.000 I'm not saying they're going to run Scott Galloway as a presidential candidate, but somebody like him who has that kind of gravitas, I guess, that a Rogan does, or like that sort of online podcaster sort of voice that they can relate to.

00:29:29.000 I think that's probably a direction they want to go.

00:29:31.000 I agree with you guys on the there's a lot of feminists, but the same way we are seeing the icing out of the Zejus people on the right, I would not be surprised to see as these people keep saying, Where's our left-wing Joe Rogan? with yeah, maybe we need to get rid of these these whack-aloons. 1.00

00:29:47.000 And so you will start seeing it's not difficult to do.

00:29:50.000 You can easily like, look what's happening with Candace. 0.99

00:29:54.000 She's the center stage of the conspiracy, conspirator right.

00:29:58.000 And it's not even right-wing.

00:29:59.000 I mean, she's attracting liberals. 1.00

00:30:01.000 This may actually rope all of them, all of the fringe weirdos into a space where you get moderate conservatives and moderate liberals largely agreeing, and then you have the whack-aloon left with the whack-alone right together because they hate Israel.

00:30:13.000 Like, one of the things I tweeted was: the future left-right divide is going to be those who are ambivalent to pro-Israel and those who hate Israel.

00:30:20.000 Because Anna Kasparian is now a Candace Owens fan.

00:30:23.000 And the Young Turks audience in the comment section are big Candace Owens fans.

00:30:27.000 They have found their unity in hating Israel.

00:30:29.000 And that's going to be some other weird faction.

00:30:31.000 And then moderates are going to be like, well, you know, you're going to start.

00:30:35.000 I would not be surprised.

00:30:35.000 I'm not saying it's true.

00:30:36.000 If CNN starts saying these people are just plumb crazy, starts trying to bring it back.

00:30:41.000 And they occupy then a similar space to Fox News, the way it used to be, where they largely agree on everything except for a few wedge issues.

00:30:49.000 And then you're going to have the online space of the Zejus people.

00:30:52.000 And then you're going to have the mainstream space of moderate politics.

00:30:55.000 I do think that they're going to, it's very pro-Israel, by the way.

00:30:58.000 Well, I mean, you're starting to see the Democrats try to, like, like you're talking about, try to sort of get people to pass, get their candidates to pass the sniff test for like sort of what masculine politics would look like.

00:31:10.000 Like there's this Senate, there's a Senate candidate in Maine, Graham Platiner, and he does the thing where he wears the flannel and like he cuts these ads where he's like chopping wood and he's like tries to talk in a really deep voice.

00:31:21.000 But he tries to like sell these policies that are inherently like really gay in a way that would pass the sniff test for like normal people. 0.96

00:31:29.000 And so he'll like cut an ad where he's like, you know what I hate to see?

00:31:34.000 I hate when these chuds misgender a beautiful trans woman. 1.00

00:31:39.000 So it's like it's got the facade of like a tough man.

00:31:42.000 I think he was like a Marine or something.

00:31:44.000 But the problem is these guys are just so beholden to their base because the ones that aren't, the ones that are actually pushing maybe more towards the middle, they get completely land-basted by the Democrats.

00:31:53.000 Like look at how they've treated John Fetterman.

00:31:55.000 Let's jump to the story we've got breaking from Amfest.

00:31:59.000 This is a speech by Vivek Ramaswamy roasting the idea of heritage Americans.

00:32:04.000 About criticizing the woke left.

00:32:06.000 Now let me get to the harder part.

00:32:09.000 There's a different vision of American identity that's emergent in certain corridors of the online right.

00:32:15.000 And it says that your identity as an American is based on your lineage.

00:32:21.000 That how long you have been in the country, your lineage, and your genetics tied to the blood and soil of the country, determines how American you are.

00:32:29.000 It is the idea of a heritage American that says the truest form of an American is somebody who is a descendant of the American Revolution period or before.

00:32:39.000 And I will tell you, this idea of the heritage American, we ought to have this discussion.

00:32:44.000 It's becoming more popular.

00:32:46.000 I think the idea of a heritage American is about as loony as anything the woke left has actually put up.

00:32:54.000 There is no American who is more American than somebody else. 0.81

00:32:58.000 The American quality, it's not like the left, they believe in this non-binary stuff. 0.93

00:33:01.000 There's no non-binary American.

00:33:03.000 It is binary.

00:33:04.000 Either you're an American or you're not.

00:33:07.000 And you think about it, I could prove this to you.

00:33:08.000 Thank you.

00:33:08.000 I'll take some applause on that.

00:33:09.000 Let's hear it.

00:33:10.000 Prove it to me.

00:33:14.000 If you really believe in this idea, think about where it leads you.

00:33:17.000 Leads you to believe that Donald Trump is less of an American than Joe Biden because Donald Trump's mother was an immigrant and his grandfather was an immigrant.

00:33:25.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:33:27.000 Leads you to believe that somehow Bernie Sanders is more of an American than Senator Bernie Moreno from my home state, an America first patriot, because Bernie Moreno was a naturalized citizen from Colombia.

00:33:40.000 It makes you think that Marco Rubio, our great Secretary of State, is somehow less of an American than Elizabeth Warren because she's a Native American, which we all know, right?

00:33:50.000 Doesn't make any sense.

00:33:54.000 It's loony.

00:33:55.000 It's crazy talk.

00:33:57.000 It makes you believe that somehow I am less of an American than the transgender criminal who assassinated Charlie Kirk.

00:34:05.000 We refuse to accept that.

00:34:07.000 The idea that a heritage American is a more American than another American is un-American at its core.

00:34:12.000 And I will fight to the very end for that because that's what it means to be an American.

00:34:17.000 We believe in ideals.

00:34:19.000 That is who we are.

00:34:20.000 So take a look at where Amfest is going and where the right is going.

00:34:26.000 And it is very, very easy to understand.

00:34:29.000 And I will explain it all to you.

00:34:30.000 We have no babies.

00:34:32.000 Yes.

00:34:33.000 We are missing a major portion of our entry-level labor market. 0.63

00:34:36.000 Universities are starting to collapse because there's no matriculation.

00:34:41.000 That's your word, remember?

00:34:42.000 It means entering university.

00:34:44.000 Because in 2008 with the financial crash, people like me didn't have babies.

00:34:48.000 So now we have a generation half the size as the previous generation.

00:34:51.000 The powers that be want immigrants in this country. 1.00

00:34:55.000 They don't care about baseball and apple pie.

00:34:59.000 They don't care about truth, justice, and the American way.

00:35:01.000 Those are secondary to GraphGo Up.

00:35:04.000 I believe this is the direction of the Republican Party.

00:35:06.000 Republicans and Democrats together are going to make as many arguments as they can that everyone is an American.

00:35:13.000 And I will explain it to Vivek.

00:35:15.000 I like Vivek.

00:35:16.000 First, a heritage American in the lightest example is not as he described.

00:35:22.000 That Joe Biden's family was here longer than Trump, so he's more American.

00:35:26.000 That's not the argument.

00:35:27.000 The argument is if your grandparents were here, you are a heritage American, which means even starting today, if a family comes here and they have kids and those kids are raised, they're saying it's like third generation, basically, people who have stronger ties to the country and what it was built out to be.

00:35:45.000 It doesn't mean before the Revolutionary War that is a straw man.

00:35:49.000 There's an argument from people who are saying, my grandfather built, helped build town hall.

00:35:56.000 They brought in Haitian migrants into my town, and now they are voting against me. 0.60

00:36:01.000 My family fought and died for my ability to have a good life.

00:36:06.000 That's the argument.

00:36:07.000 What about my great-grandfather was a drunken boxer and a total abusive loser that contributed next to nothing to society, but he was here.

00:36:17.000 I am not standing here to say that Vivek is wrong when he says the transgender assassin was more American than he is. 0.98

00:36:23.000 I think Vivek is a great American.

00:36:26.000 I believe that he is a great patriot.

00:36:28.000 I like what Vivek largely does, and I am criticizing him in this particular point.

00:36:32.000 Vivek obviously views the world this way because he comes from a family of immigrants.

00:36:38.000 So this is always going to be what's happening.

00:36:41.000 And I predicted this perfectly.

00:36:43.000 And I'll make it very short because I need to tell the story all over again.

00:36:45.000 But imagine a scenario where 200 years ago, a guy has a farm and there's no neighbors.

00:36:50.000 And over a period of time of decades, a small town builds up.

00:36:53.000 All the dads come together and they say, let's build a baseball field together for our kids and so we can play baseball.

00:36:58.000 They have grandkids and those grandkids say, let's vote in favor of revitalizing granddad's baseball park. 0.99

00:37:03.000 We're going to put up a statue in his honor with his name on it.

00:37:06.000 They vote yes.

00:37:08.000 Then that guy has a grandkid and the baseball field is in disrepair.

00:37:12.000 And they say, town hall, I vote in favor of repairing the baseball field or tax dollars.

00:37:16.000 And they say, all in favor, and everyone claps and cheers and screams.

00:37:19.000 And they go, all opposed?

00:37:20.000 And a larger group booze and says nay.

00:37:24.000 And that group are the Haitian migrants that were brought in by the Democrats and the Republicans because there's not enough people. 0.91

00:37:29.000 Now, the tradition, the lifeblood, the legacy, the memory is voted against by newcomers who came here through temporary protected status or otherwise. 0.94

00:37:40.000 That's the issue.

00:37:41.000 Now, the question is, are the Haitian migrants wrong to vote against allocating funding for a baseball field?

00:37:47.000 No, they're not.

00:37:48.000 They say we should spend that money on an immigration welcome center.

00:37:52.000 Too many Haitian migrants in this town don't speak English and don't know how to work or get jobs. 1.00

00:37:58.000 So is it wrong as an incorrect?

00:38:00.000 No.

00:38:01.000 Is it wrong as an immoral?

00:38:02.000 I'd argue no.

00:38:03.000 It is just not good for the people whose families built the place and want to sustain it.

00:38:09.000 That a whole influx of, a massive influx of people displaces them and then votes against their cultural interests.

00:38:17.000 That is not a good thing because it leads to racial animosity, cultural animosity, and violence between peoples.

00:38:24.000 So this argument, this Heritage Americans, if you actually want to understand it, is a fine argument.

00:38:30.000 I would still argue that a crackpot leftist whose family's been here for 100 years is a bad person and Vivek is a good person.

00:38:36.000 But I think it's important to point out that, to be honest, I'm not very interested in the political opinions of foreigners in America. 0.99

00:38:45.000 I value an American communist's opinion more than an Indian migrant's opinion because they are Americans and we have a system where we debate and negotiate.

00:38:54.000 That being said, I hope they lose.

00:38:56.000 Their ideology is ridiculous.

00:38:58.000 And if they're like Dinesh Dasude, I'll put it like this.

00:39:02.000 The ultimate conclusion of Vivek Ramaswamy's argument is a man born in China should be able to become president if he becomes naturalized because there's no such thing as a heritage American.

00:39:16.000 But the Constitution says otherwise.

00:39:18.000 Well, what Vivek is doing here is really pernicious, and people need to watch out for this, is the play that he is putting out here, what he's proposing, is he's using American as an adjective rather than a noun.

00:39:28.000 Where every other nationality on planet Earth, it's used as a noun.

00:39:31.000 He's using it as an adjective.

00:39:33.000 And the reason he is doing this is because fundamentally, he does not believe that anybody that has any lineage in this country is entitled to the country.

00:39:40.000 What he is doing is he's dividing the world between Americans and future Americans because he views it as an adjective. 0.64

00:39:46.000 And that's a really sinister thing that he's doing.

00:39:49.000 That's why he's strawmanning the argument.

00:39:51.000 And also, it's very convenient for someone named Vivek Ramaswamy to view it in this.

00:39:56.000 And do you think someone born in China grew up there, they're 35, they moved to the United States.

00:40:00.000 After a few years, they get their citizenship.

00:40:02.000 Should they be allowed to be president?

00:40:03.000 No.

00:40:04.000 So there is a heritage American.

00:40:06.000 You've got to be born in the country to be the president.

00:40:08.000 The Constitution says so, which means Vivek is not correct when he says Americans are all Americans.

00:40:13.000 Well, I think he's circumventing a problem that could happen in a future where people are like, how American are you?

00:40:18.000 And you're like, second generation.

00:40:19.000 They're like, that ain't American enough. 0.94

00:40:21.000 The Constitution already says this.

00:40:22.000 I know, but he's doing the moral argument about how to treat each other going forward as Americans.

00:40:27.000 Like, if your parents came here from India and you were born here and you're totally Americanized, you're basically as American as I am.

00:40:33.000 That's the problem is we're using that.

00:40:37.000 If, again, using it as an adjective, as the way that you hate his mentioning it, you're an American in that someone handed you a card saying, congratulations, you are legally an American.

00:40:47.000 The question about what makes someone an American, we have cultural traditions.

00:40:52.000 We have heritage.

00:40:52.000 Yeah, driving on the right side of the road, you know, baseball and apple pie.

00:40:56.000 Christmas bars, all those things.

00:40:58.000 Yeah, jingle bells, all that stuff.

00:41:00.000 This is what he's trying to, what he's trying to like sell, what he's trying to pass off here is the idea of the propositional nation.

00:41:06.000 And this is the problem.

00:41:06.000 This is what the left has been proposing for the last 50 years, like post-really 1960s when this idea of the propositional nation came about.

00:41:14.000 So he's fundamentally using a leftist argument.

00:41:16.000 Again, I'll say it is he's using American as an adjective and that we're the only country on earth that is supposed to do that.

00:41:21.000 It makes zero sense.

00:41:22.000 I got a question.

00:41:23.000 You guys remember when Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor of California back in the mid-2000s, something like that?

00:41:29.000 And everybody wanted him to run for president, but he could not run for president because he was not a naturalized citizen, right?

00:41:35.000 He emigrated here and I guess he patriated to the United States.

00:41:38.000 Now, I mean, can you think of anybody more American than Arnold Schwarzenegger, right?

00:41:44.000 Up until the COVID, you know, pandemic and everything.

00:41:47.000 Where did he say fuck your freedom?

00:41:48.000 Yeah, fuck your freedom.

00:41:49.000 Yeah, that was a real misstep.

00:41:51.000 But like up until that point, you know, he was an American success story.

00:41:55.000 So is he more American than somebody who was like natural?

00:41:58.000 Here's a question for you.

00:41:59.000 Everybody wanted him to be president.

00:42:00.000 Here's a question for you.

00:42:02.000 Who would you rather have as president? 0.92

00:42:04.000 Dinesh de Souza or AOC?

00:42:07.000 It's when you're presented with that binary.

00:42:09.000 That's a question.

00:42:10.000 That's not rhetorical.

00:42:10.000 I'm asking the question.

00:42:12.000 Dinesh de Souza or AOC?

00:42:13.000 Dinesh de Souza.

00:42:14.000 Yeah, hands down.

00:42:15.000 But guess what?

00:42:15.000 He wasn't born here.

00:42:16.000 Right.

00:42:17.000 But I guess the problem with Arnold.

00:42:18.000 I'm not sure AOC was.

00:42:20.000 Well, the problem with Arnold is Arnold is an exception to the norm.

00:42:23.000 Like, that's the issue here.

00:42:24.000 We can cite Arnold, but that's the reason is we have to dig to think of an actual example of someone that has moved to this country and then is exceptionally sort of, if we are to sort of step into the adjective framework, okay, he would be considered like someone that is, you know, very American.

00:42:37.000 But he's an exception to the norm.

00:42:38.000 And I don't think like when we're sort of, you know, drawing up policy, we should build it on exceptions.

00:42:44.000 I think the norm has been, certainly over the last 60 years, that people that have moved to this country just simply don't feel a deeper sense of rootedness to this country that heritage Americans do.

00:42:53.000 And that's why that's a useful definition.

00:42:54.000 And I mean, like, I'm descended, I have like Mayflower descent, but I mean, I think Jack Pesovic has laid this out quite well because he obviously came a little bit later, but he's sort of sorted Americanness into these categories.

00:43:06.000 Then you have the antebellum people that arrived in the 19th century up until Ellis Island.

00:43:09.000 These are people that had to earn skin in the game through these moments in American history.

00:43:13.000 It's like the American Civil War was great. 0.60

00:43:15.000 All those people that came in the antebellum period then bought into the system.

00:43:18.000 Same thing with the Ellis Islanders, the World Wars breakout, they buy into the system. 0.85

00:43:22.000 But even when the Ellis Islanders came, like, you know, your Italians, the Irish, they had a lot of problems assimilating in the United States.

00:43:28.000 It took about like 40, 50.

00:43:29.000 It was a long time it took to process these people and fundamentally assimilate them.

00:43:33.000 And so, but the problem right now, among others, with the way immigration has broken down over the last 60 years, is it's the volume of immigrants because we've brought in so many that you can't assimilate people because they just build, they sort of fall into these ethnic enclaves. 1.00

00:43:46.000 They're not actually interacting with Americans.

00:43:48.000 And so it's been the volume fundamentally that's the issue.

00:43:51.000 And that's why people like me and Phil have proposed net zero migration because that allows the America to sort of get the boot off of its neck, allow these people to properly assimilate before we even consider bringing in more. 1.00

00:44:02.000 So, knowing that, is that why you think someone like Vivek is making, like, planting the seeds of this sort of idea that like maybe like naturalized citizens should be able to run for he's upholding the propositional nation.

00:44:15.000 There's one reason: the powers that be understand our system will buckle without new labor to sustain its economy.

00:44:22.000 That's it.

00:44:23.000 Republicans understand it the same as Democrats, but the right populist movement wants to preserve its cultural traditions more than it wants to preserve its economy.

00:44:30.000 Because to a working-class guy making $60,000 a year, he says, I don't care about your banking institutions.

00:44:36.000 I don't care about your 401ks.

00:44:39.000 He's like, I struggle to make ends meet as it is.

00:44:41.000 I want to go toss a pigskin with my kid.

00:44:44.000 And so when you go to him and say, but how about we bring in 50,000 Haitians to your town?

00:44:48.000 He says, why do I want that?

00:44:50.000 And they say, well, because we need the tax base for the roads, because we need the tax base to put up buildings and to fund wars and the troops.

00:44:56.000 They're going to say no to that.

00:44:58.000 But the machine state does not care.

00:45:00.000 And so I'm not putting this all on Vivek.

00:45:03.000 The obvious direction the Republican Party is going to go is going to be very much aligned with the left where they're going to say all immigrants are welcome.

00:45:09.000 There will be a segment, I think, of the Republican Party that's going to say that gets more, I don't know if racist is the right word, but more nationalist, more puritanical about like, if your blood isn't American, then you're not a real American.

00:45:23.000 How long have you, has your family been here?

00:45:25.000 And that, that's like Nazi Germany.

00:45:27.000 And there will be a segment of people like that.

00:45:29.000 But I think because, you know, the inevitability of homogenization, I don't think it can really be a lot of people.

00:45:35.000 Let me just, I'm going to say this right now because apparently it's being reported.

00:45:37.000 Steve Bannon says Ben Shapiro was jealous of Charlie Kirk and will try to take over Turning Point.

00:45:42.000 Ben Shapiro was like a cancer, a cancer that spread.

00:45:45.000 And that cancer spreads.

00:45:47.000 Gosh.

00:45:47.000 Wow.

00:45:48.000 Well, he called out Bannon, too.

00:45:49.000 Yeah.

00:45:50.000 I got a question.

00:45:51.000 Sorry I interrupted like I did, Rail.

00:45:52.000 I just saw this.

00:45:53.000 Why would I want to be there and be involved in this?

00:45:55.000 To make it better.

00:45:57.000 So you mean like I should go up on stage and also accuse other people and say that would make it worse.

00:46:03.000 How am I going to make it better?

00:46:04.000 Go up on stage.

00:46:04.000 Like, guys, please, can we hug?

00:46:06.000 Fuck shit up.

00:46:07.000 That would probably fuck shit up.

00:46:11.000 You did that.

00:46:11.000 I'd go there to do that.

00:46:12.000 Even if you were there for like 30 seconds and you went on stage, it was like, oh, holy shit, holy shit.

00:46:17.000 This is what I saw and felt when they said they weren't going to invite us.

00:46:21.000 I said, I can see what's going on and I don't, I'm not, it's not fun.

00:46:26.000 There was something magical about it with this big vision that Charlie had.

00:46:30.000 And whatever it is now is not fun.

00:46:31.000 I feel like Charlie, the turning point machine is like a heavy snowball.

00:46:37.000 And it's like difficult to wield and it's got so much momentum once it gets moving.

00:46:41.000 But Charlie didn't seem to care.

00:46:42.000 He was like, whatever.

00:46:43.000 I'll juggle this like I juggle everything else.

00:46:45.000 100 million.

00:46:46.000 Okay.

00:46:46.000 Whatever.

00:46:47.000 Let's have fun, guys.

00:46:48.000 Like he really wanted it.

00:46:49.000 And I think maybe the bureaucrats at Turning Point, whoever's in charge of the bureaucracy, is more concerned about not messing up.

00:46:55.000 Charlie didn't have to do it.

00:46:56.000 Well, it just illustrates the issue that what's happening right now is all these guys are getting up on stage and they're settling scores.

00:47:01.000 I mean, that's what you're seeing here with Vivek is he clearly is really bothered by the discourse around Heritage Americans, people just simply saying, hey, can we have what everybody else has, which is like a sense of self-identity?

00:47:11.000 Because the problem with Vivek's argument fundamentally is that if we are to start denaturalizing people, which needs to happen, then you're going to have to ask the question, okay, well, who is indistinguishably American?

00:47:20.000 That's the conversation that has to have.

00:47:22.000 And if we set up what he is proposing, this propositional nation, it's going to be impossible to denaturalize anybody because he could denaturalize someone from Oregon who's an Antifa, but their family's been in the country for 400 years.

00:47:32.000 And that's what's so annoying is seeing guys like him get up when we should be focused.

00:47:35.000 We're like getting hammered in the polls right now, approaching the midterms.

00:47:38.000 And these guys like Vivek, like Shapiro, these sorts of people are getting up on stage and they're using it as an opportunity to settle scores.

00:47:43.000 Mark my words: if the Democrats win the presidency, they will pack the courts.

00:47:48.000 Yep.

00:47:48.000 They will end the filibuster overnight.

00:47:50.000 There will be a lawsuit challenging the constitutional provision on citizenship provision requiring citizenship for the presidency.

00:47:59.000 The Democrat Supreme Court will rule it unconstitutional on its face.

00:48:02.000 And this is not an amendment.

00:48:04.000 This is actually in the Constitution that you have to be born here.

00:48:06.000 And they're going to say, since the argument they'll make is this country has changed markedly in the past 250 years.

00:48:15.000 With the 14th Amendment and the recognition that those who were born here are citizens, questions must be asked about the intention of the Constitution when it said you must be born here.

00:48:26.000 Well, as many of these slaves who were born here were not citizens and only became citizens after the fact, but would be eligible to be president, the same rights must be afforded anyone who is granted legitimate citizenship, for there can be no second-class citizen.

00:48:41.000 And to argue that someone who is legally granted citizenship cannot hold office would make them second-class in the eyes of the Constitution, which is unconstitutional.

00:48:50.000 So here found by the Supreme Court.

00:48:53.000 And then you're going to get Xi Jiangfei.

00:48:56.000 He's going to move to America.

00:48:57.000 He's going to get his citizenship.

00:48:59.000 And he's going to say, the interests of America are the interests of communist China.

00:49:02.000 Vote for me.

00:49:03.000 They will vote for him.

00:49:04.000 And then you're going to have the interests of China and Americans.

00:49:06.000 People go to bed and then they wake up in five years, maybe, but people, I don't think anybody, I mean, there's a sorry, Tate, what were you going to say?

00:49:12.000 No, I'll just say, well, I mean, the issue with this is why this is a battle that's worth having because the problem is if you're using American as an adjective rather than a noun, a noun has a definition that cannot change.

00:49:23.000 An adjective, the definition is in flux.

00:49:25.000 It's spitting on who's in power.

00:49:26.000 Because if the Democrats are in power and it's unmitigated, unrivaled power, they can then sort of alter what the definition of American is.

00:49:33.000 And they can say, Zoron is exceptionally American because he believes in lifting everyone up.

00:49:37.000 And Americans don't leave anyone behind.

00:49:39.000 Therefore, we're going to abolish the 14th Amendment or alter the sort of definition of it.

00:49:43.000 So that way Zorhan Mamdani, because he's so American, can run for president.

00:49:47.000 Because that's why this is such a horrible, horrible argument.

00:49:49.000 Because using American as an adjective, again, is just subject to whoever's in power and defining what Americanism is.

00:49:55.000 If he was using it as a noun only, wouldn't that just mean that everybody born here is an American?

00:50:00.000 End of story.

00:50:00.000 That's the argument around heritage American is okay, we need to define what is an American because we had an ethnogenesis as a people that occurred following its founding.

00:50:08.000 And so you can sort of tighten ranks a little bit and say, okay, just because someone was born here and they have paperwork doesn't mean they're an American.

00:50:14.000 That's just someone that was born here.

00:50:15.000 I'm going to also add the idea that we started doing this.

00:50:18.000 You're an Italian American.

00:50:19.000 The fact that we had qualifiers who was American already signified 100 and some odd years ago that people were not just Americans.

00:50:26.000 I asked people, are you a Jewish American or are you an American Jew?

00:50:29.000 Because where's your loyalties lie?

00:50:32.000 Teddy Roosevelt is a hyphenated American.

00:50:34.000 And what about the U.S.S. Liberty?

00:50:35.000 I mean, come on.

00:50:36.000 I want to know more about those rockets coming out of those planes wave after wave of Italy.

00:50:41.000 To Tate's point, Teddy Roosevelt didn't, you know, he did really make a great point.

00:50:45.000 Like, if you're a hyphenated American, that means that you're in some way considering yourself something other than an American.

00:50:53.000 One foot up the door.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, and that shouldn't be an acceptable state of affairs when you're dealing with people that are going to be deciding policy for the United States.

00:51:01.000 Like you should be an American. 0.84

00:51:04.000 And regardless of how you define heritage, American, or what have you, if you think of yourself as a hyphenated American, if you think of yourself as something other than an American, that should be, in my opinion, enough to disqualify you from holding office.

00:51:17.000 Yeah, I mean, because people, the reality is people have really deep connections to the places they're from, and it's really hard to break someone out of that.

00:51:24.000 And I understand there's immigrants that have come to the country and they've completely left the old world behind and they truly feel 100% American.

00:51:30.000 But those people are in the minority because what's happening is, again, that's human nature.

00:51:34.000 That's not necessarily a bad thing that you have a deep connection to your ancestral homeland.

00:51:39.000 That's why you're seeing these Somalis that have come to Minnesota immediately game the system, scam the government out of a bunch of money and send it back to Somalia because that's where they feel attachment to. 1.00

00:51:48.000 Okay, I have to jump to the story.

00:51:50.000 Senator Mike Lee, would you like to seize cartel assets as a privateer?

00:51:55.000 My bill would allow the president to issue a letter of mark.

00:51:58.000 Yes.

00:51:59.000 Time to take these pirates down.

00:52:00.000 No, no, Mike.

00:52:01.000 Mike, rephrase that post.

00:52:04.000 Would you like to be a pirate?

00:52:06.000 Yes, I would.

00:52:06.000 Yes.

00:52:11.000 I legitimately have friends that saw this and they were, there's a group chat that we have and they're like, bro, these dudes are, these dudes, one of the dudes used to, he was a Blackwater guy.

00:52:20.000 He'd been to private security and stuff.

00:52:22.000 And he's like, yo, let's go.

00:52:25.000 We can finally put these Somalis to use. 1.00

00:52:28.000 But why is he calling them the pirates?

00:52:30.000 Bro, when you're a privateer with a letter of mark, you are the pirate.

00:52:36.000 That's the point.

00:52:37.000 He should have said, would you like to be a pirate?

00:52:39.000 Because now you literally can.

00:52:40.000 And they should even give you a Jolly Roger to fly on your ship when they send you out with your letter of mark.

00:52:46.000 Although no one really did that, but it'd be funny.

00:52:47.000 You could imagine a bunch of rednecks on pontoon boats with Jolly Rogers flying. 1.00

00:52:53.000 Bro, could you imagine?

00:52:56.000 It's like 15 Appalachian dudes who were working with a PMC and they bring in this massive tanker full of oil and they're now worth $50 million.

00:53:06.000 And they're like, I got them, boys.

00:53:07.000 Eric Prince saw that.

00:53:09.000 And I'm sure that he was just like, let's go because he was talking about trying to get this off the ground recently.

00:53:16.000 That's awesome.

00:53:17.000 Eric Prince, the guys in Blackwater, like those dudes that are still capable, they're like, man, we don't have an Iraq to go fight in.

00:53:25.000 I had a great time.

00:53:26.000 Let's go.

00:53:27.000 And I'm not kidding.

00:53:28.000 You can disagree and disapprove of this attitude, but there are dudes that have been to war that really want to go back.

00:53:35.000 Yeah, Eric Prince was on, it was a Bronze Age perverts podcast, and he talked about at length how the world is entering sort of this PMC era.

00:53:44.000 And it's actually kind of just a return to tradition where you had privateers, where you had mercenaries and these sorts of things.

00:53:49.000 That's culturally colonial powers got things done.

00:53:51.000 So we are heading into a world where if you're going to get all these kids out of their basements, stroking off the porn and the lost generation pirates at and go.

00:54:00.000 The total value of a full standard oil tanker on sea is $150 million.

00:54:05.000 That's generational wealth.

00:54:07.000 Bro, yes, generation. 0.99

00:54:08.000 Like, we need to make a movie about this.

00:54:10.000 It's just like a handful of PMCs.

00:54:13.000 Have you guys seen the movie?

00:54:14.000 What is it?

00:54:16.000 It's with Jason Statham.

00:54:18.000 And he, what is it called?

00:54:19.000 Is it Working Man, maybe?

00:54:20.000 I don't know.

00:54:21.000 His job is a security guard.

00:54:23.000 And then the backstory is basically that he's a mob boss.

00:54:26.000 He and his kid, he was staking out something for his team.

00:54:30.000 Working man.

00:54:32.000 It's these PMCs who are broke and they're like, I missed the action.

00:54:35.000 And so they stage a heist on armored vehicles to make money.

00:54:38.000 You make a movie where it's these like semi-half-retired PMCs who are like, the jobs are just drying up.

00:54:43.000 And then they see the bill passed, letters of mark being issued to seize Venezuelan tankers.

00:54:47.000 I'm going to blow the plot, but it should be that they get a tanker that has some super high-tech thing on board that the American government wants, and then they issue letters of mark for them, and they're on the run from the other pirates.

00:54:58.000 You just gave somebody a $100 million blockbuster movie.

00:55:01.000 I discredited this terrible movie.

00:55:03.000 That's awful.

00:55:03.000 I think the movie's literally supposed to be they are pirates.

00:55:06.000 You need to listen if you thought it was awful.

00:55:07.000 Because the point of the letter of mark is to seize oil that is valuable.

00:55:11.000 If you want to make Captain America where he flies from a helicopter and then fights Bartak, do it.

00:55:16.000 No, no, no.

00:55:17.000 You need a private.

00:55:17.000 Not a PMC movie, not a sci-fi drama where they're trying to find the golden eye.

00:55:22.000 You need an American movie.

00:55:22.000 I'm talking about a military movie where guys steal oil.

00:55:25.000 But you need something bad to happen in the movie for it to be good.

00:55:28.000 Yes.

00:55:29.000 Something horrible has to change.

00:55:30.000 It's pulp fiction in the middle of the movie.

00:55:31.000 Bro, it's just like I mentioned, like working men. 0.99

00:55:35.000 A group of PMCs are down on their luck.

00:55:37.000 They can't find work.

00:55:38.000 They get a letter of mark.

00:55:39.000 And the movie is about them taking down a Venezuelan oil taker for $100 million, $150 million.

00:55:44.000 And then the movie ends with them cashing out and Fizzbump.

00:55:46.000 It could be an action movie.

00:55:48.000 No, it's just free market top gun.

00:55:49.000 It'd be great.

00:55:50.000 He's right.

00:55:52.000 It would be.

00:55:54.000 I mean, I would go see that.

00:55:55.000 I would go see that.

00:55:56.000 No, yeah, I mean, we're entering that era.

00:55:57.000 I mean, that's just the reality.

00:55:58.000 If you look around, all of these PMCs emerging.

00:56:00.000 Because you saw in the 80s and 90s, you had people like Mark Thatcher, like Neil Ellis, who conducted these PMC activities in Africa, but it was at a very small scale.

00:56:08.000 And then oftentimes, Western governments, the United States, France, the UK, would try to hamstring them as much as possible.

00:56:14.000 Well, we're entering this new era where the Trump administration is really just taking the boot off of the neck of these guys who want to do these really cool, dramatic things in Africa.

00:56:23.000 And then also, like, a lot of these African nations hire these PMCs because they're like, hey, we kind of like Western democracy.

00:56:29.000 I don't know if we want you guys to impose it, but maybe you can help us develop it on our own.

00:56:32.000 And so they utilize these PMCs to bring like prosperity to these countries.

00:56:36.000 And so I think we're actually entering like a really exciting era of the world.

00:56:40.000 And look, this would be a massive, massive, again, another bootlifting off the neck, so to speak, for these guys if they can just get like licenses to go and privateer in the Caribbean.

00:56:50.000 I mean, this is so sick.

00:56:52.000 And the Chinese and the Russian for the cruise.

00:56:56.000 That's the thing is.

00:56:57.000 This is why America is behind the ball because the Chinese and Russians have been doing this for years. 1.00

00:57:02.000 I mean, like Wagner Group, that's Wagner Group's main thing has been operating in Africa.

00:57:06.000 And okay, they are associated with the Russians, at least in the Eastern European theater.

00:57:09.000 But in Africa, the Wagner group's basically just running loose.

00:57:12.000 And they've pushed out like the French Foreign Legion, a lot of these British peacekeeping forces.

00:57:16.000 They've just pushed them out because these dudes are just hungry.

00:57:18.000 So what happens if someone takes the letter of mark, they go down to the Caribbean, they think they're doing good, they end up blowing up a civilian boat unintentionally.

00:57:24.000 Are they considered like, hey, you're on your own now?

00:57:26.000 You took the letter.

00:57:27.000 If you mess up, you're dead and we're going to kill you.

00:57:30.000 Well, the U.S. wouldn't do the killing, but the U.S. would likely allow the government that Venezuela.

00:57:36.000 And then would the U.S. government protect them if they got back to U.S. territory?

00:57:40.000 You don't actually need a letter of mark to storm and seize a Venezuelan ship.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:46.000 That's true, of course.

00:57:47.000 Right.

00:57:47.000 The letter of mark is protection within the United States.

00:57:50.000 Yeah.

00:57:50.000 Yes.

00:57:51.000 But if you, so if you go out and kill like innocent Venezuelans on the open sea, will they still protect you? 0.53

00:57:57.000 You're making an argument about specific circumstances of international incident, which could vary in a million different ways.

00:58:03.000 If you accidentally, like, let's say there's a privateer warship and it fires on a tanker but misses and hits a small fishing vessel, there's going to be questions about whether it was a legitimate action sanctioned by the U.S. government, in which case they'll probably say you're fine.

00:58:17.000 Now, if you're a PMC and you're like, we got a letter of mark, let's go kill civilians.

00:58:20.000 They're going to lock you up.

00:58:21.000 Yeah.

00:58:22.000 Yeah.

00:58:22.000 I mean, we had an incident recently in the Congo where there was two Americans and I think they had like a British buddy with them.

00:58:28.000 And for a variety of reasons, the Congolese government, this is the DRC, so the big Congo.

00:58:33.000 And for a variety of reasons, they sort of accused these guys of attempting a coup, which was crazy because there was like three of them and a few locals.

00:58:40.000 And they executed the Americans. 0.81

00:58:43.000 And I think, or the execution's pending.

00:58:46.000 And as far as I can tell, the American government isn't really interested in intervening because they believe the Congolese have like a valid reason to carry this out. 0.59

00:58:53.000 So I think that's to say that I think the Americans, if this happened on foreign solo and they catch you, they just cut you loose.

00:59:00.000 Yep.

00:59:00.000 I mean, unless you make it back to Miami, then you're probably good.

00:59:03.000 Because we don't have an extradition treaty with Venezuela.

00:59:05.000 Like, there's no need for us to go to bat for them.

00:59:08.000 So, I mean, and look, there are PMCs in the U.S. Like, like I said, you know, Eric Prince's, I don't know what his company's called now, but they're very capable.

00:59:19.000 You know, they have the weaponry that would be required to do this type of stuff.

00:59:24.000 They have dudes that a lot of the dudes that get out of the special forces or get out of direct action teams, they're like, man, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't worth staying in the military because you're not, you don't get paid enough.

00:59:35.000 But when I get done, I mean, I'll make 250K a year to go and do private military contracting.

00:59:42.000 It's, it's big bucks.

00:59:43.000 We already see, I mean, a lot of these guys, they just also can't get the fighting sort of thing.

00:59:47.000 They have trouble reintegrating.

00:59:48.000 These guys that have seen heavy combat have trouble reintegrating into society.

00:59:51.000 So what you're seeing is like in the French Foreign Legion, for example, which is just they're called legionnaires.

00:59:56.000 I'm sure everybody's familiar with the French Foreign Legion.

00:59:58.000 I believe the makeup of the French Foreign Legion is like 50% Slavic.

01:00:01.000 It's like former Yugoslavian guys. 0.98

01:00:03.000 Because these are dudes in the 90s and early 2000s who saw some like brutal combat.

01:00:08.000 And then granted, the economies of their home countries were pretty bad.

01:00:11.000 So not only did they have a tough time reintegrating into society because of what they saw, but they also had trouble finding jobs.

01:00:16.000 So they just went and joined the French Foreign Legion because they're like, hey, that's at least going to give me a life beyond this.

01:00:22.000 I'm having trouble reintegrating to society.

01:00:24.000 So there's like a precedent set.

01:00:26.000 Granted, I don't know in America if we haven't like a large enough volume of guys that have experienced that sort of thing.

01:00:30.000 So you would have to incentivize them with like additional income and these sorts of things to really sweep the business.

01:00:34.000 I can just see the guys at Palantir just going, oh, yeah.

01:00:38.000 That'll be a contract.

01:00:39.000 Absolutely.

01:00:40.000 Horrible strike.

01:00:42.000 Sky cannon.

01:00:43.000 They're going to be like using COD weapons on these guys.

01:00:46.000 No joke.

01:00:47.000 They're going to pack a bunch of guns.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, I mean, the motivation is there.

01:00:53.000 The PMCs have the capability.

01:00:55.000 Like I said.

01:00:56.000 And also, again, this is very lucrative because these guys can make a lot of money.

01:01:01.000 I know a bunch of dudes that, you know, back when it was Iraq and Blackwater and stuff, they were making six figures very easily.

01:01:09.000 And six figures 15 years ago in Iraq is a lot of money.

01:01:13.000 It's different than six figures nowadays.

01:01:16.000 And the nice thing about the PMCs is that they actually are quite, they tighten their ranks quite effectively.

01:01:21.000 Not to, again, site back to the French Foreign Legion, but one problem the French Foreign Legion had when they were operating in West Africa is they would recruit a lot of guys that were also from West Africa.

01:01:31.000 So what happened is they would join the French Foreign Legion, get deployed back to their home countries, and they would just go and settle scores the entire time while they were there.

01:01:37.000 And they were like, well, we have impunity because we have the FFL backing us.

01:01:39.000 So the nice thing about PMCs is the ranks are super tight and they like only hire special forces, guys like these.

01:01:44.000 So it actually lets these countries that would be hiring PMCs to be rest assured that these guys aren't going to act up and like start settling scores left and right.

01:01:53.000 Yeah.

01:01:53.000 And that happens in Africa.

01:01:55.000 Like they're militaries.

01:01:56.000 They had they like deploy their native, their domestic military and the guys just abandoned the mission.

01:02:00.000 He instantly started burning villages down and stuff.

01:02:03.000 Go get the guys that are that piss me off in 50 years or whatever.

01:02:07.000 But I do think that it's something that you will see in the future.

01:02:11.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:12.000 Yeah.

01:02:12.000 No, we're heading into it.

01:02:13.000 And it's a really exciting time.

01:02:14.000 If you're a young guy, you're looking for adventure and you have that fighting spirit.

01:02:17.000 I mean, there's an argument we made that the U.S. military can't offer that for you anymore.

01:02:20.000 So if there's like a private enterprise solution for that where you can still get that experience in life, make some good money, and then actually have like missions and stories that are like cool.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, you could do that.

01:02:30.000 I don't know.

01:02:31.000 I mean, I'm not sure what kind of training they offer because most of the time they pick up dudes that have already been.

01:02:35.000 Yes, you got to go into the likelihood or whatever.

01:02:37.000 I got a question though.

01:02:38.000 You know, you ever notice that you'll see like a couple walking down the street and they dress like each other?

01:02:45.000 You know about this?

01:02:46.000 It's like a normal, it's like a known phenomenon.

01:02:48.000 And it kind of makes sense, right?

01:02:50.000 If you're a guy who dresses like some like, I don't know, long-haired, freaky person and with maybe wearing like some kind of weird orange jacket or something and you sound goofy when you talk.

01:02:59.000 Has a crazy person with him.

01:03:01.000 And then when he's dating someone, he has someone who looks just like he does.

01:03:04.000 But no, I mean, in all seriousness, and it's that people adopt an identity, a style from their culture, from where they come from, things that make sense.

01:03:15.000 There isn't a large, largely American identity in American culture.

01:03:19.000 The reason I bring this up is, you know, my wife and I are very, very, very similar.

01:03:24.000 We grew up in almost the same place.

01:03:26.000 We are both lapsed Catholic.

01:03:29.000 We like the same music.

01:03:30.000 It's probably why we got married.

01:03:32.000 It's like we get along in all these things.

01:03:33.000 We want the same things.

01:03:34.000 We view the world very similarly.

01:03:36.000 For these young guys now, the issue is they've not grown up with anybody.

01:03:41.000 They don't have an external community where they build identity.

01:03:44.000 They're watching weirdos on the internet who dress like, you know, anime wife's or something.

01:03:48.000 So when they go and meet a woman in person, they're just, it's a repulsive force. 1.00

01:03:53.000 They don't see the world the same way.

01:03:55.000 They don't dress the same way.

01:03:56.000 They don't find each other attractive.

01:03:57.000 How are young guys going to accomplish anything if they're growing up this way?

01:04:02.000 They're derastinated.

01:04:03.000 Yeah.

01:04:03.000 That's like the perfect deployment of the word because it's true.

01:04:06.000 It's like, how do you get these guys who are fundamentally speaking?

01:04:09.000 We were talking about the other day with music, how with Zoomers, men and women listen to completely different music. 1.00

01:04:15.000 There's not any artists that cross over, have crossover appeal for both sexes because Zoomer men and Zoomer women live in two completely different paradigms. 0.73

01:04:25.000 You'll see this phenomenon actually play out on Instagram is every once in a while, I will get a reel that's clearly targeted towards women, and then you'll see the comments and then it'll be like a male on there.

01:04:33.000 He's like, guys, I'm deep behind enemy lines.

01:04:34.000 Like, I don't know what they're talking about.

01:04:36.000 And it's true. 0.56

01:04:37.000 It's like, it really illustrates to the point is like, we have a very tough time relating to the other sex because it's just two completely different worlds. 1.00

01:04:43.000 And at this part, I mean, you're seeing in South Korea the divergence politically.

01:04:46.000 I think that's where we're heading towards, is where men and women, not only do they not speak the same language, they don't really have any cultural touch points to share, but they legitimately do not view the world the same way fundamentally.

01:04:55.000 I don't know how you make a marriage work in that instance.

01:04:56.000 I mean, Roland can talk to this.

01:04:58.000 The damage that feminism has done to society just overall. 1.00

01:05:03.000 Well, I mean, there's been like a separation between men and women for a long time.

01:05:06.000 It's like the boys on one side of the playground, the girls on the other side of the playground.

01:05:09.000 We're just seeing that play out in different factions right now or different contexts, I guess.

01:05:15.000 So whether it's music or it's political affiliation, I mean, you guys have talked about this, I don't know how many times, the divide between men and women politically right now.

01:05:24.000 And I think her name was Helen Andrews.

01:05:28.000 Helen Andrews.

01:05:29.000 So you probably already have heard her.

01:05:32.000 Was it TED talk or something like that?

01:05:34.000 Where she was talking about how pretty much everything that we consider woke today is really part of the female psyche.

01:05:41.000 So when women organize society, it's more in the round. 1.00

01:05:45.000 It's more egalitarian.

01:05:46.000 It's more because of the way as human beings in hunter-gatherer tribes, women were the berry pickers and the gatherers and men were the hunters and they would go out.

01:05:54.000 So when women organize societies, it's in a more egalitarian, communitarian way because they're strength of numbers. 1.00

01:06:02.000 They're the vulnerable sex. 1.00

01:06:04.000 They are nurturing children.

01:06:05.000 They're incubating babies.

01:06:08.000 That's why women have that value. 1.00

01:06:10.000 Men organize societies in hierarchies. 0.97

01:06:14.000 So there's the admiral at the top and the general and all the down chain of command all the way down to the private.

01:06:20.000 Or if we're talking about workplace, there's the CEO, the COO, the CFO, and on down to the janitor, right?

01:06:26.000 So when men organize societies, it's based on hierarchies.

01:06:32.000 And so for men, our hierarchies today are built around how you perform.

01:06:39.000 What are your achievements?

01:06:40.000 What makes you respectable?

01:06:41.000 And I've been reading a lot of these stories lately about how we're going to teach these boys how to be respectful to women, right?

01:06:48.000 there's two different forms of respect.

01:06:50.000 There's a hierarchical respect, which is what do you do that makes you respectable on that hierarchy, which is the way that men organize societies.

01:06:57.000 And then there's everyone is deserving of respect and you get some respect and you get some respect and you get some respect and you're not going to be able to do that.

01:07:02.000 Which participation trophy, you know, a version of respect where everybody sort of has this common thing.

01:07:08.000 And that's more the female way of doing it. 1.00

01:07:10.000 And so when people say we're going to teach boys to respect women, and it's like the boys are there going.

01:07:15.000 What makes them respectable?

01:07:16.000 Because that's their frame of reference.

01:07:17.000 It's like their natural frame of reference.

01:07:19.000 So when we're talking about the divide about men and women coming together and having some things in common right now, I think one of the reasons why we're so separated in the sexes right now is because we fundamentally don't know how to organize our own disseparate tribes right now.

01:07:36.000 That's why you see more women gravitating towards liberal, woaxy, you know, side of the political spectrum. 1.00

01:07:42.000 And you see way more men coming over.

01:07:44.000 And I don't think it's ever been as the contrast has never been as stark as it is right now.

01:07:49.000 So repeal the 19th?

01:07:52.000 God.

01:07:53.000 I hate that question because it's redundant to me at this point.

01:07:57.000 I don't want to.

01:07:58.000 I don't either because I don't think it's tenable.

01:08:00.000 And I really, I hate when people go, don't you think we should do that?

01:08:02.000 If we just repealed the 19th or we took women's rights away, everything would be, would change. 0.95

01:08:06.000 I'm like, okay, first of all, how are you going to do that?

01:08:10.000 It's like, we're going to have a revolution and an anarchy.

01:08:13.000 Okay, what's your plan on restructuring society after that?

01:08:16.000 Like, if you want to go out and fuck things up, okay, good, go do that.

01:08:20.000 But what happens afterwards?

01:08:22.000 You know, what's your plan after that?

01:08:23.000 I think we'd be better.

01:08:24.000 My pitch is a very simple solution.

01:08:26.000 And actually, I was interviewing with Thank Ramaswamy, and this is where the idea came from.

01:08:30.000 It might be his idea.

01:08:32.000 Require everybody to apply for selective service, and then you receive a voter ID.

01:08:37.000 It's not a guarantee of solving the problem.

01:08:40.000 But it's a large inhibitor because you go to Times Square and you'll see some random, just like urban street guy.

01:08:48.000 Maybe he's got a fanny pack with some dollar bills in it.

01:08:50.000 And you'll be like, you want to vote?

01:08:51.000 He'll be like, yeah, sure.

01:08:52.000 And you'll be like, just sign up for the draft.

01:08:54.000 He'll go, nah.

01:08:56.000 And he's out.

01:08:56.000 Yeah.

01:08:57.000 Well, I mean, every conservative would be like, yes.

01:08:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:09:00.000 Well, that's because to the point, like, right-wing thought is inherently hierarchical.

01:09:03.000 To your point, yeah, it was Helen Andrews, The Great Feminization and Compact magazine.

01:09:06.000 Like, everyone has to read that if you want to fundamentally understand why things are getting very gay. 0.97

01:09:12.000 It's very true.

01:09:12.000 But right-wing thought is inherently, yeah, it's inherently hierarchical.

01:09:16.000 But something really interesting you see with sort of the female-coded sort of ideology is that they simultaneously seek egalitarianism for egalitarianism's sake, but they also have a massive outgroup preference.

01:09:28.000 So what that looks like in practice is total egalitarianism, which is what they're pushing towards in the United States, in combination with mass migration.

01:09:35.000 So you basically create these massive social programs.

01:09:37.000 This is all across the West, massive social programs, but you also flood the country with people from foreigners so then they can take advantage of those programs that were intended to sort of level out society. 1.00

01:09:47.000 And it's, I mean, it's demonic.

01:09:48.000 I mean, because hierarchy, like, you know, hierarchy truly understood, right-wing thought truly understood.

01:09:54.000 The reason we have a hierarchy is because we believe it was ordained by a divine.

01:09:57.000 We believe it was ordained by a God.

01:09:59.000 Because otherwise, who set up that hierarchy?

01:10:01.000 It has to be someone.

01:10:02.000 It had to be some things to set this in order.

01:10:04.000 And yeah, that's why you're seeing things.

01:10:06.000 That's why you're seeing the men gravitate towards right-wing thought.

01:10:08.000 The women gravitate towards left-wing thought is because like Rolo talked about is it's just the psyche. 1.00

01:10:12.000 I mean, when we're looking at like, you know, natural like sexual dimorphism, like when men are, you know, men bear a greater risk, going out and doing the hunting, going out and doing the fighting, going out and, you know, protecting the tribe.

01:10:22.000 I'm going to do something I've only ever done one at a time.

01:10:25.000 I'm going to take a phone call right now.

01:10:26.000 Oh, boy.

01:10:26.000 And I'll be back in a few minutes because there's like a scoop and we may want to have it on this show.

01:10:32.000 Okay.

01:10:32.000 But it has to do with something going on at Amfest.

01:10:35.000 Let's go.

01:10:35.000 And so I'm like.

01:10:36.000 Can you give us a hint?

01:10:38.000 Maybe.

01:10:38.000 I was actually thinking of just pressing call and going for it, but I don't know what it is just yet.

01:10:43.000 And I don't know if they want to actually come out and say it.

01:10:45.000 So I'm going to go take this quick call.

01:10:47.000 Give me a minute.

01:10:48.000 But to Rolo, can you expand on that some more so that way people kind of understand it?

01:10:52.000 Because I think a lot of times people think that there's a lot of edgy young guys.

01:10:57.000 And so that's what kind of like repeal the 19th is, right?

01:10:59.000 It's edgy young guys kind of making jokes and stuff.

01:11:02.000 But I think that these topics are actually, I mean, and again, you'll clarify, but it's something that's very deep in who we are.

01:11:11.000 You know, you're talking about the hunter-gatherer versus the hunting and versus gathering and taking care of the tribe.

01:11:17.000 So why don't you expand on that?

01:11:18.000 Well, you know, I tell you what's funny is I've heard this repeated by people recently who I have probably been listening to my show for a while.

01:11:28.000 But whenever I talk about this, it's usually talking about how responsibility without authority is slavery, right?

01:11:35.000 What we don't do is we don't talk about the reverse of that, which is 100% authority without any responsibility is tyranny.

01:11:43.000 So when you look at those two things, that's the definition of slavery versus tyranny.

01:11:48.000 And then I wrote about this in a couple of essays on my sub stack, by the way, where I have sort of defined what the difference is between gynocentrism and androcentrism versus matriarchy and patriarchy, right?

01:12:02.000 So right now, you hear everybody talking about how everything is gynocentric right now, where everything is, it's based on a female correct way of interpreting the human experience, right? 0.99

01:12:13.000 Whether that's political, whether that's pop culture, whether that's religion, whether it doesn't matter what the context is.

01:12:18.000 It's just the correct way to experience life is to experience it as a woman. 1.00

01:12:22.000 And for men to do anything masculine at this point, and I mean this in the terms of conventionally masculine.

01:12:29.000 I don't use the term traditional masculinity very often because lots of people have different traditions, right?

01:12:34.000 But from a conventionally masculine perspective, if you look at patriarchy, patriarchy is a far more balanced way of organizing society than gynocentrism or androcentrism for that matter.

01:12:45.000 Because what gynocentrism is and androcentrism is, is there are forms of tyranny, meaning that in androcentrism, let's say, for example, men have all the authority and 0% responsibility.

01:12:57.000 And that's like in the handmaiden's tale, you know, like Gilead, where it's all the women are just forced into pregnancies and stuff like that.

01:13:04.000 And then we have gynocentrism, which is the reverse of that.

01:13:07.000 And then you've got patriarchy, which puts power and authority in men's hands, but they still have responsibility to their families and their wives and their kids. 0.98

01:13:18.000 But they are given the authority to affect those responsibilities.

01:13:23.000 And that's where I think a lot of traditional conservative thought really kind of fails right now.

01:13:28.000 Because until they can acknowledge the fact that if you want men to be more responsible and man up and take bootstraps, bootstraps, bootstraps, you want them to be more responsible, you're not going to solve the world's problems or solve the gender issues with just adding more and more responsibility on there and not giving these guys the authority to affect that responsibility in the first place.

01:13:53.000 Until traditional conservatives can accept that, then we're just going to keep having this conversation over and over and over again.

01:14:02.000 All right, where are we at?

01:14:03.000 So that was fresh.

01:14:05.000 Oh, my God.

01:14:06.000 And he's like, this is crazy.

01:14:07.000 Let me tell you what happened.

01:14:08.000 And he was like, he's like, maybe we could do a video or something.

01:14:12.000 And I was like, do you want me to just hold the thumb to the microphone?

01:14:14.000 You can explain what went down.

01:14:16.000 And then he was like, man, let me send you a video and then play the video.

01:14:19.000 So he's recording something right now.

01:14:22.000 And he told me a little bit so far.

01:14:25.000 But what he told me so far was that he was a VIP pass.

01:14:31.000 He was a guest, really.

01:14:32.000 He's on Rumble.

01:14:33.000 And he said he walked on and went to the Rumble area or whatever and was just chilling.

01:14:38.000 He didn't do anything.

01:14:39.000 He was there for like 10 minutes when six cops showed up and surrounded him and said, you have to leave.

01:14:43.000 And he was like, holy crap.

01:14:44.000 So then he said, he started, I was like, oh, hold on, hold on.

01:14:48.000 I was like, Joey, just pull the phone up because he was like, well, let me send you a video.

01:14:51.000 So if he sends us a video, and I don't know if it's going to sound good or not, but that's where we're at.

01:14:57.000 Okay.

01:14:57.000 All right.

01:14:59.000 I'm like, as our last show of the year, I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do.

01:15:01.000 So maybe we'll just do it live.

01:15:03.000 My money is on.

01:15:03.000 His buddy smelled like pot.

01:15:05.000 But they were like, what?

01:15:06.000 I didn't smell it.

01:15:08.000 My money is on.

01:15:09.000 Somebody was like, Myron Gaines is an anti-Semite who posts happy merchants and stuff.

01:15:15.000 Don't let them come in.

01:15:16.000 And when Fresh showed up, they're like, that's one of the guys.

01:15:21.000 Get him out of here.

01:15:22.000 And they also barred Myron from getting in.

01:15:24.000 And then I think Rumble probably was like, no.

01:15:27.000 And I think someone probably higher up at Turning Point was like, guys, what are you doing?

01:15:31.000 This is going to be a disaster for us.

01:15:32.000 Let him back in.

01:15:34.000 I don't know for sure yet.

01:15:35.000 Let me tell you on Twitter, man, they were Johnny on the spot with us too, because as soon as they saw Myron waiting by this escalator, like waiting to get in, like they were denying him entry to TPUSA.

01:15:46.000 And so I text Myron and I said, dude, they're saying that you can't get in.

01:15:49.000 We're like, what's going on?

01:15:50.000 He's like, no, no, no, they're going to let us in.

01:15:52.000 But then I go back to Twitter and they're like, they kicked him out and they won't let him in.

01:15:55.000 And like, just jump to all these really quick conclusions as fast as they possibly could.

01:15:59.000 And then like for Fresh, it was like, oh, it's because you hang out with Myron and Myron's an anti-Semite.

01:16:04.000 I bet that's it.

01:16:05.000 It's association.

01:16:05.000 Bro, I'm telling you, next year, Amfest is going to be guys in the suits saying Christianity is going to be CPAC.

01:16:11.000 Yeah.

01:16:12.000 Will James O'Keefe have another big party next year?

01:16:14.000 Perhaps.

01:16:15.000 But I said this before, I'll say it again.

01:16:18.000 I told Charlie this last year, bro, you have created the next South by Southwest.

01:16:21.000 Yeah.

01:16:22.000 Daily Wireless Cigar Party.

01:16:23.000 James O'Keefe had a party.

01:16:24.000 We were talking about, you know what's really, really sad?

01:16:28.000 We were discussing having a Timcast party in Phoenix, Arizona for the end of the year, because for the past three years, our last show of the year was on stage with this massive audience.

01:16:37.000 Ian falls off the stage the first year.

01:16:39.000 It was crazy.

01:16:40.000 And not anymore.

01:16:43.000 Not anymore.

01:16:45.000 So what would have been more and more pop-ups surrounding the event and creating this massive festival, I think is likely just going to start shrinking and kicking people out.

01:16:56.000 And then it will just be CPAC.

01:16:58.000 Did you go to CPAC?

01:16:59.000 I don't.

01:17:00.000 I have a question.

01:17:00.000 So are they still, I don't know if they're still doing this, but TPUSA, I think they did this last year.

01:17:05.000 They have the Women's Ministry Day where it's just nothing but the girls talking.

01:17:09.000 Are they doing that at this one?

01:17:10.000 Because at the last one, they had an all-array on there.

01:17:12.000 I'm just wondering who the reformed porn star is going to be as a guest speaker for this one.

01:17:19.000 I guess there's only so you can only be so cool if you're not into the arts.

01:17:22.000 Without the arts, it's hard to actually be cool.

01:17:26.000 It's a very, seems like it's a very political spectacle.

01:17:30.000 Well, I mean, again, like the it will be such a loss if this turns into the right trying to exclude people because they don't like an opinion that they have.

01:17:41.000 That's exactly what crushed the left.

01:17:43.000 That's why people hate the left now.

01:17:45.000 You know, that's why the Democrat Party has such a low approval rating.

01:17:49.000 They took people that were considered cool, like Joe Rogan, and because he was just a normal guy that was completely comfortable voting Democrat.

01:17:59.000 And they ran him out.

01:18:00.000 And then they say, well, why don't we have any guys?

01:18:02.000 Well, it's because you got rid of them all.

01:18:04.000 And to the point that you were making, the amount of influence by the feminist kind of feminist intersectionals in the Democrat Party by trying to make sure that everybody is, that nobody steps on anyone's toes, that nobody says anything that someone else doesn't like. 1.00

01:18:25.000 They've managed to run out basically all of the young men.

01:18:28.000 They've been telling young men, you're evil, you're the problem in America.

01:18:32.000 And there isn't anybody that's actually hitting the brakes in the Democrat Party.

01:18:37.000 Maybe there are people that are considered Democrats or what have you or Democrat mouthpieces in the commenter space, but nobody in political office.

01:18:46.000 I was going to say, I would think that the people of the TPUSA would be welcoming Myron Gaines with open arms there because what was it?

01:18:54.000 Camela Harris in her latest book, her biography or whatever it was on the election, mentions by name, the reason why she lost the election was Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines.

01:19:05.000 But why by Gaines?

01:19:07.000 Well, okay, so when Mike was here, my partner, Mike Sartan on Access Vegas, he was saying the same thing.

01:19:12.000 He said, this was the election of the podcasters.

01:19:16.000 This was the election.

01:19:17.000 The reason why the left hates the red pill so much is because it convinces black voters to vote for Trump. 0.99

01:19:24.000 That's why.

01:19:25.000 And sure as shit, that's what happened with Camela.

01:19:28.000 She even admits it in the book.

01:19:29.000 So I think that's pretty much proof positive right there.

01:19:32.000 But it was speaking to a demographic of young men who otherwise felt unheard.

01:19:41.000 And that's where they would gravitate towards.

01:19:43.000 I mean, I can remember as far back as 2016 when people in the church were coming and saying, where are all the men in the church?

01:19:49.000 Well, they're in the manosphere.

01:19:50.000 They're here.

01:19:50.000 They're right here.

01:19:51.000 They're talking to me.

01:19:52.000 They're talking to everyone else in the manosphere at this point.

01:19:57.000 Joe Rogan wasn't even a factor back then.

01:20:00.000 And the fact that they would even use Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughan or Jordan Peterson as sort of examples of guys who are sort of in the manosphere who would, like, going on, you know, Rogan, Rogan openly hates the red pill, openly hates the manosphere.

01:20:16.000 Even Jordan Peterson, you know, despises the manosphere.

01:20:20.000 But they're using them because they're just the most obvious household names that they can find.

01:20:24.000 But there's a lot more people out there than Joe.

01:20:26.000 I mean, if you think the red pill begins and ends with Andrew Tate, I got news for you.

01:20:31.000 apparently there's something crazy happening and I don't know exactly just why but one of the he said it wasn't a shooting No, no, no, no.

01:20:45.000 Some people are claiming it's because he's black, which is silly.

01:20:48.000 This is absolutely ridiculous.

01:20:49.000 However, it may have something to do with defending Candace Owens.

01:20:55.000 That's the rumor that's going around.

01:20:56.000 I don't know for sure.

01:20:57.000 It's not confirmed.

01:20:58.000 She's been on a show a few times.

01:20:59.000 But I was saying I think it's, you know, I don't know if I would argue my first assumption is that it's related to Candace.

01:21:07.000 I assume it's that they want to excise that segment of the right that has been embracing this.

01:21:12.000 I mean, Nick Fuentes getting called up by Ben Shapiro, Candace.

01:21:16.000 Then why invite them as VIPs?

01:21:18.000 I think it's a big organization that's like employees.

01:21:21.000 No, no, they didn't know.

01:21:22.000 They didn't know.

01:21:23.000 Oh.

01:21:23.000 Bureaucracy.

01:21:24.000 You know?

01:21:27.000 We've had instances where we've done shows and then someone shows up and one guy working the door doesn't know this guy's not allowed in or something and it happens.

01:21:34.000 And then they had to walk it back because it was making them look really bad.

01:21:37.000 I think Amfest is like I already said this.

01:21:40.000 I think it's going to turn into CPAC.

01:21:42.000 I don't go to CPAC.

01:21:43.000 I don't care about CPAC.

01:21:44.000 It's meaningless to me.

01:21:45.000 AmFest was crazy.

01:21:46.000 It was fun.

01:21:48.000 Yeah.

01:21:48.000 You know, so.

01:21:50.000 Actually, the quartering is in the chat right now saying he literally just talked to him.

01:21:55.000 He's totally fine.

01:21:56.000 Like we talked at Amfest at 3 p.m.

01:21:58.000 He's totally fine.

01:21:59.000 He was not banned.

01:21:59.000 We talked at Amfest Thursday and Friday, which I mean, that lines up with kind of the story.

01:22:03.000 You know, he was let back in.

01:22:04.000 Now, I don't know if he told.

01:22:06.000 There is the question is, why was he initially removed?

01:22:11.000 And there's no real reason just yet.

01:22:14.000 There are some rumors circulating.

01:22:15.000 Obviously, one, because he's black is stupid. 1.00

01:22:17.000 That's a made-up joke, I guess.

01:22:19.000 That kick out someone from being black. 1.00

01:22:21.000 But some people are speculating that it's his involvement with Candace Owens and his support of her or something like that.

01:22:26.000 Yeah.

01:22:26.000 I mean, that, to me, makes the most sense.

01:22:29.000 I think it's because the Fresh and Fit podcast, who was it?

01:22:34.000 There was a, they got called out because every time someone mentioned something Jewish, they'd play a cash register noise.

01:22:40.000 Like, that's probably why.

01:22:42.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 You know?

01:22:44.000 But they gave them VIP tickets.

01:22:46.000 Come on, guys.

01:22:47.000 Who's doing this?

01:22:48.000 Big organization with a lot of people, bro.

01:22:49.000 Yeah, and VIP tickets might be because of the Rumble affiliation.

01:22:53.000 Yep.

01:22:53.000 You know, there's something.

01:22:54.000 That's true.

01:22:55.000 You know, someone at Rumble is like, hey, make sure these guys get in.

01:22:57.000 Someone's like, oh, yeah, fine.

01:22:58.000 Yeah.

01:22:59.000 Yeah.

01:22:59.000 Give them the VIP.

01:23:00.000 Rumble gets a blanket of passes to hand out.

01:23:03.000 And I mean, that's just speculation.

01:23:04.000 Yeah, but they call the police, the actual police.

01:23:08.000 It's not like the security that's on extreme.

01:23:12.000 That's why I thought pot.

01:23:13.000 But even that, you wouldn't call six guys.

01:23:17.000 I don't know.

01:23:18.000 He was there with a couple of dudes when he had dressed up.

01:23:20.000 That means he smokes pot.

01:23:24.000 He doesn't mind.

01:23:25.000 Oh, sorry, you were saying?

01:23:27.000 No, I mean, I just, I think it's silly, and I think that it's a problem for the right.

01:23:32.000 You know, the Republicans are in a, or at least the right is in a position to have, you know, significant influence on the culture and not just on the culture, but also on policy.

01:23:43.000 And if you can't settle these kind of disagreements without starting to excommunicate people and saying you're not allowed here, you're going to turn a bunch of voters off, right?

01:23:55.000 If there's a guy, young guys out there that are like, oh, I like Andrew Tate or I like Nick Fuentes, they make me laugh.

01:24:01.000 I don't agree with all this stuff they say, but it's funny and I like them.

01:24:04.000 And then they hear that these people are not welcome.

01:24:07.000 They're going to say, well, that means that I'm welcome.

01:24:09.000 But just name for me one conservative that speaks masculinity to young men.

01:24:16.000 Nobody.

01:24:17.000 Conservative?

01:24:19.000 Who does Turning Point and the Republican Party have that is inspiring young men to be stronger, faster, better?

01:24:26.000 Who?

01:24:27.000 Nobody.

01:24:28.000 I'm drawing a blank.

01:24:29.000 I want to say Nick Frietas, but he's, I don't know if he's associated with him.

01:24:33.000 Bobby Cannon.

01:24:34.000 I don't necessarily agree with him, but I think he would be one that they would get as the poster boy for something.

01:24:39.000 Freedom is great.

01:24:40.000 The point needs a louder megaphone.

01:24:42.000 You've got Andrew Tate.

01:24:44.000 He's telling young men, be strong, be powerful, take shit over.

01:24:48.000 You're the boss.

01:24:49.000 Make money, get girls. 1.00

01:24:51.000 I'm not that guy.

01:24:52.000 And these young guys are like, I want to be powerful, successful.

01:24:55.000 I want to be a fighter.

01:24:57.000 These are the things that men are driven to want.

01:24:59.000 And the right offers up nobody.

01:25:02.000 Well, I think Donald Trump exemplifies those things without saying it explicitly.

01:25:06.000 That's why people are drawn to Donald Trump.

01:25:08.000 No, come on. 0.85

01:25:09.000 He's morbidly obese.

01:25:10.000 Because it's like it's more than just a moment.

01:25:12.000 Well, no, that's not fair.

01:25:13.000 He did lose a lot of weight.

01:25:14.000 He's an overweight guy who doesn't exercise because he thinks his body's a battery that you burn energy off.

01:25:20.000 You have to find that energy.

01:25:21.000 But people view these things beyond aesthetics.

01:25:23.000 They view things as like actually accumulating power, accumulating wealth, accumulating influence.

01:25:26.000 And Donald Trump is that's why he's so popular with young men.

01:25:29.000 That's why he was like gets some of that for sure.

01:25:31.000 I can tell you exactly why conservatism has a problem with really getting to that appeal, having that spokesperson that is not an Andrew Tate.

01:25:43.000 It's because you end up at the same place that feminism comes around. 1.00

01:25:47.000 And I get this all the time because people want to tell me that the red pill is just the flip side of feminism. 1.00

01:25:51.000 It's just feminism for men. 1.00

01:25:53.000 I'm like, no, actually, that's traditional conservatism because it winds up in the same place.

01:25:58.000 It is man up, get a job, get out of your, you know, everything that Andrew Tate says, I could go do all this great stuff, but then take it all, go get married, have kids, and do whatever your wife says.

01:26:11.000 And if you look at the guys who are sort of emblematic of like the stand-up guy, the traditional conservative husband and father, which Charlie Kirk ostensibly was at that time, he's still serving a female end at the end of all of that.

01:26:28.000 So the purpose of becoming a better guy is not to intrinsically do it for yourself, to be, you know, to build yourself up to be a better man just because that's what you want to be.

01:26:39.000 It's be a better man because women really need better men. 1.00

01:26:43.000 So please, we need to solve women's problems by you becoming a better man, right? 1.00

01:26:47.000 Which is exactly the same result or the same end point that you end up with when it comes to feminism, which is do all this stuff. 1.00

01:26:56.000 We still want men to, we want men to man down, but we want them to man up when we need them to man up because it's all for our own benefit.

01:27:02.000 So when the red pill comes in and we kind of exist in this kind of like in between, it's really weird in between area between those two.

01:27:11.000 People think that we're intrinsically misogynist or whatever.

01:27:15.000 All we're doing is we're just offering information and education so that you can protect yourself and make better decisions for yourself to say, this is what I want.

01:27:23.000 This is not what I want.

01:27:24.000 It's not about trying to be an ideology or a philosophy or a cult or religion or a set of practices or anything.

01:27:33.000 Fundamentally at its core, the red pill is just about educating people and putting that data out there.

01:27:40.000 The problem that everybody has is that when you give people facts, you have to tell them how to feel about it.

01:27:46.000 You can't give them facts without telling them how to feel about it because if you don't, they will hate you for that or they will infer that the reason you're telling me this data and these facts right now is because you want me to believe a certain thing.

01:27:58.000 Or are you on my team or are you on their team?

01:28:02.000 And that's really what they're trying to suss out the whole time when you're just throwing out facts and figures right there and allowing them to make their own decisions based on what those are.

01:28:11.000 What works best for you.

01:28:12.000 Tate and I were talking about this a little bit today.

01:28:13.000 Like at the end of the day, even people on the right that think that they analyze things and they make the decision that's best based on thought and logic and reason and stuff, you're still, as a human being, you're still making an emotional decision, right?

01:28:29.000 This is because it's what you think will provide you with the best emotional outcomes.

01:28:36.000 Everybody has game.

01:28:38.000 Everyone has game.

01:28:39.000 How effective that game is is really what is what a lot of people, you go and you ask a 10-year-old kid, like, you know, how do you go and get a girlfriend, Johnny?

01:28:48.000 That kid probably has a pretty well thought out way to go.

01:28:50.000 You be your friend and you do this and you do that.

01:28:52.000 He probably figured out how effective that is.

01:28:54.000 Now, if you take that and you extrapolate that into like ideology and you add religion or political stripe or what are you going to do for a living, those kinds of questions right there, it really comes down to what are best practices.

01:29:07.000 So when people come at me and they say, well, you know, really, it's all these black pill doomers. 1.00

01:29:12.000 It's MGTOW, you know, men going their own way, or it's the white pill, it's the black pill, it's this pill, that's that pill, whatever. 0.59

01:29:18.000 Those are practices.

01:29:19.000 Those are people who've taken that data and go, you know what?

01:29:22.000 Given the information I have right now, the best thing to do is just not play the game.

01:29:26.000 The juice isn't worth the squeeze.

01:29:27.000 And that's a practice.

01:29:28.000 That's not the red pill.

01:29:29.000 You've just taken the data from the red pill to extrapolate from that what you think you ought to do.

01:29:34.000 That's why you got LuxMax who's like clavicular right now, just goes to the nth degree to make himself look like, you know, like crate.

01:29:42.000 A mannequin, yeah.

01:29:43.000 And, but that's what he thinks is the best practice.

01:29:46.000 Oh, he's wrong.

01:29:50.000 That's where he is.

01:29:50.000 I'm not a fan, but I, yeah, I understand how he gets that.

01:29:55.000 I don't think a lot of young Gen Z guys have any game. 1.00

01:29:58.000 Oh, no.

01:29:58.000 No, no.

01:29:58.000 But they think they do.

01:30:00.000 But the thing is, is that how effective is that game?

01:30:02.000 They'll throw it out there, get rejected, and then they'll have to go back and rethink it again.

01:30:06.000 Clavicular, he's kind of the natural conclusion of the black pill in which he just sort of accepts that he's the logical extreme. 0.95

01:30:13.000 Yeah, right.

01:30:14.000 Yeah, it's just like he realizes that everything is reduced down to aesthetics, really.

01:30:18.000 So that's the presupposition he accepts.

01:30:20.000 And so therefore, if you looks max, if you maximize your looks and you'll achieve whatever you want in life, because that's just applying a reading to women or to life in general. 1.00

01:30:28.000 Again, everything just reduces down to like mathematical formats.

01:30:31.000 Whenever I see clavicular, it's like, I can just sort of see the chubby kid underneath the mask.

01:30:38.000 His look is not congruent with how he speaks and how he presents and how he telegraphs his game, I guess, for lack of a better term, but how he projects his personality.

01:30:48.000 He's kind of like the fat kid who lost a lot of weight and still thinks he's a fat kid.

01:30:54.000 And he's quite come to grips with the fact that he's not that good.

01:30:57.000 He's not.

01:30:58.000 Yeah, and so he's still operating, like his social skills are still operating from the perspective of I'm a fat kid and these girls are going to reject me anyways, but they're not.

01:31:05.000 They're actually giving him the time of day and he doesn't know what to do about it.

01:31:08.000 I was thinking about the normally 30, 40 years ago before the internet, someone's blackpilled, they're kind of like, and they complain a lot, and they just don't have friends. 0.99

01:31:16.000 And then they get isolated, people don't want to be around them, and then they go away, and maybe you never see them again.

01:31:20.000 But now with internet video, they can make videos and get a following.

01:31:24.000 Microscopes.

01:31:25.000 Spread the nihilism.

01:31:26.000 It's fucking crazy that that apathetic, sloth-like sin of a state of mind could possibly infect other people through this technology.

01:31:37.000 It's crazy.

01:31:38.000 That's so dangerous, too.

01:31:40.000 It needs to be addressed because free speech, I can't tell you to stop.

01:31:45.000 And if you're getting money for doing it, because all it takes is ad revenue based on how many people all of that stuff.

01:31:50.000 I'm going to tell you this right now: I agree with you 100%.

01:31:54.000 I also think that a lot of the stereotypes and a lot of the caricatures of these guys end up getting overblown or the things that are sort of attributed to the red pill are overblown because we have so many damn bots these days.

01:32:13.000 We have so much, you know, like the best thing, I was just going to say this, the best thing that Elon Musk ever did with Twitter is give you the ability to figure out the country of origin of that profile.

01:32:25.000 And banning bots.

01:32:26.000 Oh my God.

01:32:27.000 Yeah, I'm banning bots too.

01:32:28.000 But going to those bot farms in Pakistan, in India, in Nigeria, South and East Asia is one of them as well.

01:32:38.000 And there's so many of these, they're engagement farms, is what they're doing. 0.95

01:32:42.000 It's because Elon Musk, you can get paid on Twitter for your engagement and stuff.

01:32:46.000 So what do they do?

01:32:47.000 They go and they just find the most aggravating, most agit prop questions that they can find.

01:32:52.000 And usually, those are the ones like, can you believe this woman did this? 0.97

01:32:56.000 Do you think this woman would last 10 seconds in this country or something like that? 1.00

01:33:00.000 So it's like nihilism bots have been unleashed on more or less.

01:33:03.000 But that's what gets engagement.

01:33:05.000 Damn, I'm an idiot.

01:33:06.000 Don't surprise me.

01:33:07.000 Tim's getting all formatting set up.

01:33:09.000 My phone was pressing on the keyboard.

01:33:10.000 I'm like, why are the buttons?

01:33:13.000 I'm like, what's happening?

01:33:14.000 So you think the nihilism bots are contributing to the black pillars?

01:33:18.000 Okay, so I think that the incentive for them is just basically money, right?

01:33:23.000 I mean, what's going to get the most eyes on the screen?

01:33:26.000 What's going to cause the most indignation?

01:33:28.000 It's going to be open-ended questions, and it's usually going to be something that reinforces a pre-existing belief, and particularly about women.

01:33:36.000 And so go ahead.

01:33:37.000 No, I'm going to change subjects.

01:33:39.000 You're good?

01:33:39.000 I want to jump to this clip.

01:33:40.000 We got this from Turning Point.

01:33:41.000 Tim Cast News posted it, of course.

01:33:43.000 Steve Bennett unloads on Ben Shapiro.

01:33:46.000 Ben Shapiro calling him a lifelong never Trumper.

01:33:48.000 Now, Benji Shapiro sat up here last night, and he was all, you know, I'm going to, you know, it's all about the truth.

01:33:55.000 Ben, I've known you a long time, brother.

01:33:58.000 You can't handle the truth.

01:34:06.000 Let's face it, Ben Shapiro is the farthest thing from MAGA.

01:34:10.000 Let's be blunt.

01:34:13.000 Wow.

01:34:14.000 He is a hardcore never Trumper.

01:34:17.000 He's a hardcore never Trumper.

01:34:20.000 In the spring of 16, he tried to up in Breitbart.

01:34:24.000 Walked off the job, made a big deal about some incident in Mar-a-Lago with Corey Lewandowski.

01:34:29.000 He tried to turn it to Ted Cruz from Donald Trump because he hated Donald Trump.

01:34:35.000 In the general election, he barely supported Donald Trump.

01:34:38.000 The first sign of when President Trump gets sent back to Mar-a-Lago, the very first individual that jumped on the Ron DeSantis train, the Israel first train, was Ben Shapiro.

01:34:51.000 And those are the darkest days we had.

01:34:54.000 In 21 and 22, you guys were there.

01:34:57.000 He's consistently been against Trump.

01:35:00.000 And now that President Trump doesn't back the Greater Israel Project, what is Greater Israel?

01:35:04.000 It's not about Israel itself.

01:35:06.000 It's about an expansionist Israel, an imperial Israel that Netanyahu and that crowd have thought up.

01:35:13.000 And the Israel first crowd is Ben Shapiro, Tel Aviv, Mark Levin, and many others that want to put that ahead of America's interests.

01:35:23.000 It's like a primary.

01:35:24.000 It's a primary.

01:35:27.000 Yeah, they're fighting for losing control.

01:35:28.000 Yeah.

01:35:29.000 And it's Israel.

01:35:31.000 No, no, no.

01:35:32.000 I mean, the argument they're making is pro or anti-Israel.

01:35:35.000 I don't care at all.

01:35:36.000 It's a new conservative wedge.

01:35:37.000 Bro, if I'm going to sit down and have a debate with someone and they're like, let's discuss Israel.

01:35:42.000 I'm going to say, I don't care.

01:35:43.000 Like, right now, there's this plan.

01:35:45.000 We didn't get into the story about how they want to turn Gaza.

01:35:47.000 Was this tweet?

01:35:48.000 Yes.

01:35:49.000 Into a high-tech, you know, Mara Gaza or whatever. 0.87

01:35:52.000 And in that context, I have no problem talking about it.

01:35:53.000 It's a news like everything else.

01:35:55.000 But if they're just having this literal debate about the merits of Israel, I'm just like, this is boring me.

01:35:59.000 Yeah.

01:36:00.000 I would much rather Ian explain to me his latest bread recipe.

01:36:03.000 That intrigues me.

01:36:04.000 Sourdough.

01:36:05.000 Give a starter? 0.51

01:36:06.000 Not yet.

01:36:06.000 See, that's the question.

01:36:08.000 I'm not sure if I want to use it.

01:36:08.000 Yeah.

01:36:12.000 Like, would you make a new mother dough and then pass it down to the infinitely more interesting than debating Israel?

01:36:18.000 I knew a girl. 0.92

01:36:19.000 It's a fourth-generation mother dough.

01:36:21.000 So her great grandmother put it together.

01:36:22.000 For real?

01:36:22.000 Yep.

01:36:22.000 And this is intestinally more fascinating than an Israel debate.

01:36:26.000 I can go into it.

01:36:27.000 It's already involved.

01:36:29.000 The point is this.

01:36:31.000 I don't mind having a debate over the like the, I don't know, I don't mind discussing Israel's interests, lobbying, and all those things.

01:36:38.000 It's just that it's every fucking second for these people.

01:36:42.000 Yeah, you turn this on and he was like, the thing is, something about, he doesn't like Trump.

01:36:46.000 He likes him less than him.

01:36:47.000 Trump.

01:36:48.000 He does like Trump.

01:36:49.000 He doesn't like Trump.

01:36:50.000 And I'm like, it's like a video game in my repertoire of a thousand games that is real annoying that I don't want to play right now.

01:36:56.000 Talking about Trump.

01:36:56.000 Trump, Trump, Trump, Turning Trump.

01:36:57.000 I know president politics, it's a big part of the world.

01:37:02.000 But dear God, it is not the way to solve the problem.

01:37:07.000 I completely agree.

01:37:08.000 He's not getting up on stage and saying tax policy has gone crazy.

01:37:12.000 Border security, Venezuela.

01:37:14.000 He's saying, Ben Shapiro, I don't like.

01:37:16.000 And I'm looking at this like Ben Shapiro comes out and says, Candace Owens, Tucker, Bannon, they're all bad.

01:37:22.000 Did he call it Megan Kelly too?

01:37:23.000 I think he did, right?

01:37:24.000 No, no, no, no.

01:37:24.000 I didn't see him.

01:37:25.000 And then they come out and they make fun of him.

01:37:27.000 And I'm like, is this what?

01:37:28.000 Listen, there's a lot of people at Turning Point that are like, I got no beef with Ben or Bannon.

01:37:34.000 Jack is a good dude.

01:37:35.000 He's a great friend.

01:37:36.000 So I got no beef with the people at Turning Point.

01:37:38.000 But guys, there's literally no organization here.

01:37:42.000 You know what they were doing?

01:37:43.000 There was no one going, guys, whatever you do, we do not want you to go up on stage and just rag on each other.

01:37:48.000 Send a positive message on what you believe and leave the drama outside because it's not what Turning Point's about.

01:37:52.000 No, instead, it's like it's WWE.

01:37:56.000 You guys, this is what they should do.

01:37:58.000 They want me, like, listen, okay.

01:38:00.000 I'm sorry.

01:38:00.000 I'm sorry, but they first don't invite us, and then I say they're not inviting us.

01:38:04.000 Then they try to invite us.

01:38:06.000 But you really want me to sit there just listening to Bannon rag on Ben, Ben, rag on Bannon, Tucker, then go, haha, he's so pompous.

01:38:13.000 Guys, with respect to each and every one of you, because I got no beef, I literally don't care.

01:38:19.000 Why would I want to go and stand in an audience and listen to a speech by Bannon about Ben Shapiro?

01:38:23.000 Don't care.

01:38:24.000 It's just absolutely insane.

01:38:26.000 You know what my view of the infighting is?

01:38:28.000 Boring.

01:38:29.000 What I want to see is Ben Shapiro on stage tomorrow, getting on, and then all of a sudden the mic drops, the fucking fireworks come off, and Bannon walks on stage like it is WWE, and everyone's like, whoa!

01:38:42.000 He's got to do the strut like Mex McMahon. 0.99

01:38:44.000 Give me the theme song.

01:38:45.000 And then they go in.

01:38:48.000 They've had pre-planned at their best.

01:38:50.000 Then, as Ben starts going like this and Bannon's walking up, you see Tucker jump out with a chair.

01:38:57.000 We need this.

01:38:57.000 We need to revigrate it.

01:39:00.000 Okay, I would totally come for that.

01:39:01.000 I would do that.

01:39:02.000 If it was actually like that, it's funny you guys compare all this to professional wrestling because it's like a lot of the times when I see this kind of infighting happening.

01:39:10.000 Now, this happens in the sphere all the time.

01:39:12.000 It happens politically, whatever the niche happens to be.

01:39:15.000 But these guys, I'm meant to ask you this, Tim, is do you think that these guys are doing this and they're agitating like this?

01:39:21.000 Like, you could tell them, hey, guys, go up there, be nice.

01:39:23.000 Have it, you know, we need to form units.

01:39:25.000 There's no boss.

01:39:26.000 There's no boss, right?

01:39:27.000 But do you think that even if they did that, would they still do it?

01:39:31.000 Because those guys are there to appeal to their audience, to appeal to the people who are out there.

01:39:36.000 Because if you don't go up on there and you don't talk shit about Ben Shapiro, your audience is going to make you pay for it.

01:39:42.000 Oh, he had this golden opportunity to run for Shapiro and Charlie.

01:39:46.000 If Charlie was still alive, this would not happen.

01:39:48.000 Oh, yeah, that wouldn't happen then.

01:39:49.000 He'd say, guys, please don't go on my stage and have a drama fest.

01:39:53.000 We are talking about the future of this country.

01:39:54.000 There's no one doing that.

01:39:56.000 So why are they allowing this stupidity?

01:39:59.000 But I don't agree with the audience thing.

01:40:01.000 I do understand what you're saying.

01:40:02.000 And it is true to a certain extent.

01:40:04.000 But if Ben went up there and said, with all due respect to Ben Shapiro, I don't, if all he did was say, guys, I want to talk to you about the future of this country, the midterm elections, but I will address what Ben Shapiro said.

01:40:14.000 If he simply said, I don't appreciate the stage drama at an event like this, we're talking about the future of this country.

01:40:19.000 And then the member of Charlie Kirk, it shouldn't be this way.

01:40:21.000 So Ben, please, let's keep it respectful.

01:40:24.000 Moving on, people have been like, then they would have been like, I got it.

01:40:27.000 Ben made the hit, though.

01:40:28.000 But then he had at least addressed the gorilla in the exactly.

01:40:32.000 While saying, let's not stoop to that level and not actually insulting Ben, just saying, let's keep it civil and try and focus on what we can win together.

01:40:39.000 Instead, this is turning into just more partisan bickering where the right is now two different factions.

01:40:44.000 You know, Jenk Uger talks about, he's like, can we just come together with some Republicans on the issues we want to get done and get them done?

01:40:51.000 Because if the left and the right agree that healthcare is too expensive, can we just forget everything else?

01:40:55.000 Forget the trans kid stuff, the tax policy, whatever. 1.00

01:40:57.000 Let's just look at the healthcare thing, right?

01:40:59.000 Let's look at the roads.

01:40:59.000 Let's look at the border.

01:41:00.000 Whatever it is that we agree on, let's just do and then argue later.

01:41:04.000 I like that idea.

01:41:06.000 That's kind of what the mega coalition was.

01:41:09.000 A lot of people disagreed on all these things.

01:41:11.000 There's moderate, you know, I don't think abortion should be completely banned to the we should ban it completely, but we're going to work together because the left is so insane.

01:41:19.000 Now, you know what I think it is?

01:41:21.000 As the tide recedes, the scum is exposed.

01:41:25.000 What I mean by that is not to insult anybody who's saying this, but there is no woke beast.

01:41:30.000 The kraken has been slain. 0.92

01:41:33.000 And now, you know, you got a pirate ship and you got Her Majesty's vessel, and they were fighting when a kraken emerged. 1.00

01:41:40.000 And they said, oh, aim your kids at the Kraken.

01:41:43.000 The Kraken is dead, not looking at each other and going, fuck you.

01:41:46.000 And they're fighting again.

01:41:47.000 Yep.

01:41:47.000 And I don't care.

01:41:49.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:50.000 Like, I don't need to be there.

01:41:51.000 I brought out Kaiju.

01:41:51.000 You bring out Kraken.

01:41:52.000 Kraken.

01:41:53.000 Let's just call it a Kaiju.

01:41:56.000 What is the Kaiju, by the way?

01:41:59.000 Godzilla.

01:42:01.000 It's a gigantic monster.

01:42:03.000 It's not just Godzilla, Rodan.

01:42:04.000 Gamera.

01:42:05.000 So they're all right.

01:42:07.000 Mothra, right?

01:42:08.000 Mothra.

01:42:10.000 Any gigantic Japanese monster. 1.00

01:42:11.000 Watch out.

01:42:12.000 Mecha Godzilla, bro.

01:42:14.000 Ultraman.

01:42:14.000 Somehow Godzilla got cyborg parts.

01:42:17.000 Oh, yeah.

01:42:18.000 What was the story about Mecha Godzilla?

01:42:20.000 I have no idea.

01:42:20.000 They're like, let's make him a robot.

01:42:22.000 A long time ago, yeah.

01:42:24.000 And then you had that show where, um, what was that show where the guy would like turn into a gigantic dude and fight Kaiju?

01:42:31.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:42:31.000 Yeah, oh, that's Ultraman, Ultraman, Ultraman, yeah, yeah, yeah, easy, easy, man, ultraman.

01:42:35.000 God, now I'm dating myself.

01:42:36.000 Yeah, damn, dude, Ultraman is good.

01:42:37.000 All right, everybody, want to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chat.

01:42:40.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

01:42:43.000 Shout out to PokerGo Studios, man.

01:42:46.000 It's beautiful.

01:42:47.000 It is an honor and a privilege to be here.

01:42:49.000 I'm a big poker guy.

01:42:50.000 I'm a huge fan.

01:42:50.000 It's cool.

01:42:51.000 They let us take their poker table for the week.

01:42:54.000 And it means a lot to me.

01:42:56.000 It's really amazing.

01:42:57.000 You guys are the best.

01:42:58.000 And shout out to all you guys in the crew.

01:43:00.000 Let's grab some Rumble Rants and some Super Chats.

01:43:04.000 Let's start with.

01:43:06.000 Uh-oh, it looks like they actually got the Rumble Rants disappeared. 0.98

01:43:10.000 Rotrow.

01:43:11.000 Yeah, Rotrow. 0.99

01:43:12.000 Okay, well, Bond says, Tim, how did you like having Graham on the show?

01:43:15.000 We had Graham Allen and Mike Madiso, and it was a really great conversation.

01:43:19.000 That was super fun.

01:43:20.000 Really good.

01:43:21.000 Yeah.

01:43:21.000 Both those guys are awesome.

01:43:23.000 The quartering.

01:43:24.000 We already Phil already read this one, but he says he talked to Myron.

01:43:27.000 He's totally fine.

01:43:28.000 He wasn't banned.

01:43:29.000 The point is to Jeremy that Myron hit me up and said, There's more to the story.

01:43:34.000 He'll have more later.

01:43:35.000 And then I looked up the rumors.

01:43:37.000 And so we'll see.

01:43:38.000 We'll see.

01:43:38.000 We don't know.

01:43:39.000 But it looks like a bunch of the Rumble Rants are gone.

01:43:42.000 I can't fathom why that would be.

01:43:44.000 Oh, well.

01:43:45.000 Real busy at Rumble today.

01:43:47.000 Nothing doing.

01:43:49.000 We'll jump to our super chats for which I think we have a plethora.

01:43:55.000 See, that's the problem.

01:43:56.000 I can't say plethora.

01:43:57.000 Plethora?

01:43:57.000 Is plethora too big a word?

01:43:58.000 Plethora.

01:43:59.000 It's like that plethora.

01:44:02.000 I say we got big lots.

01:44:03.000 Plethora.

01:44:04.000 Yeah.

01:44:05.000 Big lots.

01:44:06.000 Big lots.

01:44:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:07.000 Plethora.

01:44:08.000 Their vocabulary is too good of talking about bunches. 1.00

01:44:12.000 I got to take it.

01:44:12.000 I'm trying blethroplasty.

01:44:14.000 Blethropless.

01:44:15.000 It's like the riff when you get your eyes done, like cosmetic surgery.

01:44:19.000 So blast.

01:44:20.000 Just be old. 0.82

01:44:21.000 You know, I hate plastic surgery.

01:44:22.000 We're in Vegas and we're everywhere.

01:44:24.000 Just be old. 0.82

01:44:26.000 I splash water in your face throughout the day.

01:44:29.000 You know?

01:44:30.000 I saw a guy who had really bad hair transplants.

01:44:32.000 But no, actually, it wasn't really bad ones.

01:44:34.000 It looked like he had gotten them a long time ago, but his hair can, your character still falls out.

01:44:39.000 So now he had male pattern baldness with weird hair plant.

01:44:43.000 And I'm just like, guy, just put on a beanie and just roll with it.

01:44:48.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:48.000 That's all you got to do.

01:44:49.000 It's pragmatism.

01:44:50.000 Dude, have you been using the infrared hat?

01:44:53.000 Oh, I want to use it.

01:44:56.000 We got from Jonathan Otto.

01:44:58.000 Yeah, the red light thing.

01:44:59.000 You know, it's kind of funny because I looked it all up and it's all real.

01:45:01.000 It all works.

01:45:02.000 And I was like, oh, that's true.

01:45:05.000 It feels like hippie-dippy bullshit, but I always thought it was BS until I learned of blue light therapy for babies.

01:45:10.000 Yep.

01:45:11.000 And it's real.

01:45:13.000 What is that?

01:45:14.000 So if babies are jaundiced, I think I'm going to get this wrong about it.

01:45:17.000 They have too much bilirubin in their blood.

01:45:19.000 The blue light, the wavelength of light itself, breaks it down.

01:45:23.000 And so if their livers aren't strong enough to get it out of their system, the blue light breaks it down and then their body takes care of the rest.

01:45:28.000 So they literally put a blindfold on the baby and sit it under a blue light for like five hours.

01:45:32.000 Wow.

01:45:32.000 And then I'm like, really?

01:45:34.000 Just a blue light?

01:45:35.000 Just a blue light.

01:45:36.000 And then I'm like, so the red light stuff is real?

01:45:38.000 And they're like, yes.

01:45:38.000 The doctors told me that.

01:45:40.000 I'm like, what?

01:45:40.000 I looked it up and I'm like, red lighting your balls does boost testosterone.

01:45:44.000 It actually, the studies say that they found it increased testosterone when men started putting red light on their balls.

01:45:50.000 Something to do with the sun, I guess.

01:45:52.000 You wake up in the morning.

01:45:53.000 I'll figure that out.

01:45:54.000 What if I die?

01:45:55.000 So many man.

01:45:56.000 You know what it is?

01:45:57.000 Humans would wake up, crack a dawn with the red light beaming on them, and they'd be standing proud with their junk right up in there and it would cook. 0.87

01:46:08.000 There was that guy out of Soul Broad.

01:46:10.000 He kept tweeting like, you need to start sunning your balls.

01:46:12.000 And then one guy, he replied in like the back of a police cruiser.

01:46:15.000 He's like, don't do this in an apartment complex.

01:46:19.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:46:22.000 Mike says, Tim, I am creating a new political party called Both Parties Suck Party.

01:46:27.000 There's so many third parties that try to do something, you know?

01:46:30.000 Isn't Elon going to do a third party?

01:46:32.000 Yeah, like every American party, but now he's funding Republicans.

01:46:34.000 Guys, what if both parties are the problem?

01:46:37.000 Wow, the way it's so small.

01:46:39.000 The screen is too far away.

01:46:41.000 Okay, we got X Radico says, I implore everyone, donate to Tim's security.

01:46:48.000 The Irish are after him and his spoons. 1.00

01:46:51.000 The Irish.

01:46:52.000 That's true.

01:46:53.000 I need all of your money.

01:46:54.000 And Irish.

01:46:55.000 Come and Irishman. 1.00

01:46:56.000 There is an Irishman who has before stolen my spoons. 1.00

01:47:00.000 I need your help.

01:47:01.000 Go to Timcast.com and click join us and get in the Discord server.

01:47:04.000 And that will help us make sure the Irishman never takes another spoon again. 0.97

01:47:09.000 Seamus and I wrote a really great bit for Cast Castle that we never made.

01:47:13.000 And it was that, this is a true story.

01:47:16.000 I was sitting on the couch in the castle.

01:47:18.000 It's called the Great Room when you first walk in.

01:47:20.000 It's like a big room, it's a kitchen and a living room.

01:47:21.000 And I was watching Leprechaun.

01:47:24.000 I don't remember which one.

01:47:26.000 And it was the scene where the guy had gotten bitten by the leprechaun and started turning into one.

01:47:32.000 So he's at a restaurant and he orders hash browns, French fries, mashed potatoes, baked potato, tater tots, just a plate of potatoes.

01:47:39.000 Which is funny because just because the Irish starve to death with no potatoes doesn't mean they love potatoes.

01:47:44.000 But so then Seamus walks in and he's like, hey, buddy, what are you watching?

01:47:47.000 And then he looks up at the screen and he goes, this is the most racist thing I have ever seen.

01:47:52.000 And I started busting out laughing because it's like, it's true.

01:47:56.000 He's like, I was bitten by our leprechaun and I have to eat potatoes.

01:47:59.000 So we wrote this bit where the bit was going to be that exact scene scenario.

01:48:03.000 And then I tell Seamus, chill out.

01:48:05.000 It's leprechaun.

01:48:05.000 Stop being your panties in a bunch.

01:48:08.000 And then the next, like the transition scene was our receptionist goes, oh, Tim, there's a bunch of people outside.

01:48:16.000 I'm like, who are they?

01:48:17.000 And she goes, the potato people.

01:48:18.000 And I'm like, what?

01:48:19.000 She's like, they're like Irish. 1.00

01:48:20.000 Stop.

01:48:20.000 You can't call them the potato people.

01:48:22.000 And then she goes, no, no, no, they're from the organization Potato.

01:48:25.000 And I was like, what?

01:48:26.000 And there's a bunch of Irish protesters outside picketing holding up signs saying potato, which stands for people organizing together against true oppression.

01:48:34.000 And they were arguing that the Irish are the true oppressed people and that white privilege oppresses them.

01:48:40.000 We wrote this whole thing out.

01:48:41.000 We never made it.

01:48:41.000 I wish we did.

01:48:42.000 It would have been a lot of fun.

01:48:44.000 Was it Leprechaun 3?

01:48:45.000 Were they in Vegas?

01:48:46.000 I don't remember.

01:48:47.000 A guy gets bit by the leprechaun and then starts turning into one.

01:48:50.000 Because apparently that's, dude, those movies are amazing.

01:48:53.000 They were like, let's make it like werewolves or vampires.

01:48:56.000 He gets bit by the leprechaun and turns into one.

01:48:57.000 That's how you make more leprechauns.

01:48:58.000 That was how Jennifer Annis thing got her. 1.00

01:49:00.000 Oh, the movie we're thinking of is Leprechaun 4 in space.

01:49:05.000 This is the only film in the French last word.

01:49:09.000 Shark Native.

01:49:10.000 Bro, is that?

01:49:10.000 That was Warwick Davis, right?

01:49:12.000 Legend.

01:49:14.000 Legend.

01:49:15.000 Leprechaun in Space, I could go on, is the only film in the franchise where a human to leprechaun transformation happens.

01:49:22.000 Quantum Strange Court says, Tim, I understand your situation, but I truly hope this isn't the last IRL praying for you all.

01:49:26.000 Well, the good news is we're working with Rumble, and so the next show will be January 5th.

01:49:31.000 It is going to happen.

01:49:33.000 What we end up working out in that January, we have basically three weeks to sort out getting this machine churning.

01:49:42.000 Because for security reasons, we're not going to go back where we just got shut in.

01:49:46.000 And so we need, like, I'll put it simply, my wife and I are like, we're going to go to an undisclosed location.

01:49:52.000 I can't do Timcast IRL.

01:49:54.000 Like, I don't, we've gotten crazy death threats.

01:49:57.000 We were told by the Fed some of them seem credible.

01:49:59.000 They didn't say they are.

01:50:00.000 I don't want to lie about it.

01:50:01.000 They said, based on the statements that were made, the threats that were made, this appears to be credible based on previous actions from certain crazed individuals.

01:50:10.000 So we said, okay, then you get someone circling our property, then they shoot at it.

01:50:13.000 So we're like, okay, we're not going to be retarded and just sit here and wait for someone to kick the door in with an AR instead opening fire on my staff, my guests, or whatever it is. 0.82

01:50:22.000 So we're talking to Rumble and we're basically saying, like, how do we build something bigger?

01:50:26.000 The good news is this could actually end up being closed door open window and that we build something tremendously massive with Rumble.

01:50:34.000 I think it's very likely to happen.

01:50:36.000 Meaning, I'll just say like the stuff that we're already working on, times 10.

01:50:42.000 Other creators coming in, shows coming together, big studio conventions.

01:50:49.000 There's big ideas here.

01:50:50.000 And the good news is I think Rumble really wanted to do a big, big project that was going to like reshape the space.

01:50:57.000 And so when this happened, it was kind of like, well, I guess now you have to come and join us on this grand mission.

01:51:02.000 And as much as I hate Florida, my wife and I were like, we'll do it if we can make this happen.

01:51:09.000 So it might, you know, God closes the door, he opens a window.

01:51:12.000 Could be good.

01:51:14.000 All right.

01:51:14.000 And Timothy says, neocons are just trying to take control of the GOP by slandering opposition as anti-Semitic.

01:51:20.000 I don't completely disagree, but there are certainly people who just won't stop screaming about the Jews.

01:51:26.000 And it's annoying.

01:51:28.000 I certainly think it's stupid when these super pro-Israel people are like, if you criticize my country, you hate Jews.

01:51:33.000 Like, no, I have no problem with Jews whatsoever.

01:51:34.000 Not at all.

01:51:35.000 Yeah.

01:51:36.000 That's I made the point on the show yesterday is like I was laying out the play from the neocons to sort of dig back up the old play where they would just define anyone to the right of Ted Cruz's alt-right.

01:51:45.000 As I think that as you can see, they're doing the same thing where anyone to the right of Ted Cruz is now a Groyper, which is ironic because Nick Funtas himself hates JD Vance. 0.56

01:51:53.000 He just wants to also derail the Vance campaign.

01:51:56.000 So you're seeing both the actual Groypers and indeed the neocons both trying to derail a Vance 28 campaign.

01:52:02.000 But the neocons are trying to poison the well for Vance by labeling, again, everyone to the right of Ted Cruz as a Groyper for no reason.

01:52:10.000 Indeed.

01:52:11.000 Yeah, I tweeted out in response to Vivek Ramaswamy.

01:52:13.000 Heritage Americans can become president.

01:52:16.000 The arguments don't matter.

01:52:17.000 Like, it's in the Constitution.

01:52:18.000 It's true.

01:52:19.000 You can argue how far back you have to go to be Heritage American, but there exists something that is different from an American.

01:52:27.000 There is an American with a legal standing to be the president, and there's an American that does not have that.

01:52:30.000 So there is a distinction.

01:52:34.000 But I like Vivek on a lot of issues.

01:52:36.000 So I'm not trying to, you know, people didn't understand.

01:52:38.000 I criticize one guy on one thing, and people are like, Tim's attacking Tucker.

01:52:42.000 And I'm like, I criticize him.

01:52:43.000 I did.

01:52:43.000 I think Vivek's marketing.

01:52:44.000 I like a lot of his work.

01:52:45.000 I don't know.

01:52:46.000 Vivek's super important for this movement because he'll say things outside the box that ruffle the base on purpose.

01:52:53.000 I mean, he just knows how important it is to say certain truths sometimes, even if they're seemingly unpopular at the moment.

01:53:02.000 All right.

01:53:02.000 Masa Mune says, Tim, there's a great massive youth on YouTube that are actively seeking out contact with maps.

01:53:09.000 I'm not kidding.

01:53:10.000 Please shout out Father Void for exposing this atrocious behavior as well as the maps who are encouraging it.

01:53:14.000 Don't say map.

01:53:15.000 Just say pedo.

01:53:17.000 But I get the point you're trying to make.

01:53:20.000 That's messed up.

01:53:23.000 I get a lot of videos on Instagram where it's dudes beating up pedophiles.

01:53:28.000 And I'm like, like.

01:53:29.000 Have you seen the one guy who does the Alley Oops smack where his boy throws the pedo in the air and then the guy smacks in the air?

01:53:34.000 They call it the alley oop smack.

01:53:35.000 Did he really do that?

01:53:36.000 Oh, it's a guy that's like he's specialized in.

01:53:38.000 My only concern is like sooner or later, one of these guys are going to get the wrong dude.

01:53:42.000 Yeah, and there's also like a debate to be had about like half of these guys are clearly just like people with like Down syndrome and stuff like that.

01:53:49.000 So there's no, it's like, maybe they're just using this as an excuse to beat like people with disabilities. 0.97

01:53:53.000 Yeah.

01:53:53.000 You're like, man.

01:53:54.000 I mean, a pedophile is a pedophile, but it's like, you know, maybe just let the police handle it.

01:53:58.000 It's going to be bump fights.

01:53:59.000 So indeed.

01:54:03.000 You know, if it's pedophile.

01:54:05.000 The alley smack is very keen.

01:54:08.000 I'm torn because I'm concerned about vigilantism in that there have already been a few stories where they've insinuated that they got the wrong guy.

01:54:17.000 Like somebody was in a similar area that looked kind of like the person.

01:54:21.000 Because from online photos, you're never too sure.

01:54:24.000 It's rough because I don't care because I like these videos.

01:54:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:29.000 Even if they're stopping pedos from preying on kids.

01:54:33.000 I don't want to see any extreme violence or anything like that, but Instagram's videos.

01:54:36.000 But I'm concerned about the vigilantism because sooner or later, something bad's going to happen.

01:54:39.000 Well, not only that, but there are people on the left that would consider their activism vigilantism.

01:54:45.000 Right, exactly.

01:54:46.000 They'd argue the exact same thing.

01:54:47.000 Like, I love watching a capitalist or a Nazi get punched.

01:54:50.000 And it's like, man, no.

01:54:53.000 I mean, it's actually so close to the argument because they say, oh, you know, by them not affirming my identity, that's actually doing violence to me.

01:55:01.000 So I'm preventing violence, which is just vigilantism.

01:55:04.000 That's actually a really good point to describe to people this feeling.

01:55:09.000 Say, you know how you feel when you watch one of those videos where a pedophile gets punched in the face and everyone's going to be like, yeah, I enjoy those videos.

01:55:17.000 That's how the left feels watching conservatives get punched in the face.

01:55:19.000 I don't like those videos personally.

01:55:21.000 I just, I don't know.

01:55:23.000 Because isn't it illegal?

01:55:24.000 Like, it's assault, even if the guy's in the middle of not prepping a crime.

01:55:28.000 If you're a vigilante, you can't charge the guy.

01:55:30.000 No, if the vigilante punches the pedophile, doesn't he still go to prison for assault?

01:55:34.000 Yes.

01:55:34.000 Vigilante?

01:55:35.000 Yeah, because the police haven't gotten involved.

01:55:36.000 So it's like this guy you just punched by the police's standards an innocent person.

01:55:40.000 Yep.

01:55:40.000 Okay.

01:55:41.000 You can't take the law into your own hands.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, don't.

01:55:44.000 A vigilante.

01:55:45.000 No.

01:55:46.000 And there's a lot of guys out there that do it like the right way.

01:55:48.000 They literally just, you know, draw these guys in.

01:55:51.000 They get everything written down, put it in paper, hand it over to the police.

01:55:54.000 I think a big issue with the vigilante guys want to beat people up is they never even turn the stuff over to the police.

01:55:58.000 So they literally just smack a guy around and then cut him loose.

01:56:00.000 Which all that does is it ensures that pedophiles can be more prudent in the future.

01:56:04.000 Rather than the guys that are able to actually put together a case, they can hand it over to the cops and the cops can put the guy away.

01:56:09.000 Yeah, it also sort of strengthens that stereotype that people want to kill you because you're trans.

01:56:17.000 People are like, I'm afraid just because he's a pedophile, people want to hurt him.

01:56:20.000 That's like, but that's just who I am, man.

01:56:23.000 I just want to hurt me for being who I am.

01:56:24.000 I'll put it like this.

01:56:26.000 If you're a pedophile and you don't prey upon children, you keep it to yourself.

01:56:30.000 You don't do any weird things online with child abuse content.

01:56:34.000 Keep it to yourself.

01:56:35.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:56:36.000 Fine.

01:56:36.000 Like, don't commit crimes.

01:56:38.000 Don't target kids.

01:56:39.000 Don't make any weird art.

01:56:40.000 Don't do any of the garbage.

01:56:41.000 Just keep it in your mind.

01:56:42.000 Stay away from people.

01:56:44.000 If you're acting upon it, you're going to get your ass kicked.

01:56:48.000 Yeah, I mean, well, that's by, let's just, let's be very, very polite for the law and for the cameras.

01:56:53.000 By the police when they catch you, and you deserve it.

01:56:55.000 That's one of the things that the quote-unquote maps say is they're like, I'm non-offending, so it's okay.

01:57:02.000 Or, you know, if I don't act on it, no, it's okay.

01:57:06.000 You know why that's not okay?

01:57:07.000 Because they're trying to normalize it in the public.

01:57:08.000 Yeah.

01:57:09.000 Shut your mouth, go away, keep it to yourself.

01:57:11.000 You act on it in any way, you go to jail, you get locked up.

01:57:15.000 Because this argument, we can look at the slippery slope argument all across the board.

01:57:20.000 Like in 2010, when the conservatives said if they legalize gay marriage, they're going to teach sodomy in schools.

01:57:26.000 Literally happened.

01:57:27.000 So these map, you know, they try to use that semantic BS to hide what they do.

01:57:34.000 They want to argue they're non-offending.

01:57:35.000 No, what they want to do is they want to build compassion so that they can try to normalize it.

01:57:40.000 F that.

01:57:41.000 There's a line, man.

01:57:43.000 So anyway.

01:57:45.000 All right.

01:57:45.000 Buffalo Bill says, Tim, we love Israel.

01:57:47.000 America is just an idea and your boomer audience loves Israel. 0.66

01:57:51.000 That's good.

01:57:52.000 Well, I think Buffalo Bill, maybe you should consider the country you live in.

01:57:59.000 And if you love Israel so much, why don't you go move to Israel? 0.99

01:58:02.000 I'm sure they'd welcome you.

01:58:04.000 Buffalo Bill says, we stand with Israel.

01:58:06.000 We denounce Tucker and Candace.

01:58:07.000 America is just an idea. 0.88

01:58:09.000 See, this is the problem.

01:58:10.000 It's people like this Buffalo Bill guy who don't actually care about America that feeds and fuels these anti-Semites.

01:58:18.000 Wasn't he the guy from yesterday that was talking about the gambling money?

01:58:22.000 No, not him.

01:58:23.000 It wasn't him.

01:58:23.000 This is the guy yesterday who was saying that he loved Israel.

01:58:26.000 Oh, okay.

01:58:27.000 Is he trolling?

01:58:27.000 Because it's two on the streets.

01:58:28.000 Yes, for sure.

01:58:29.000 What do you mean?

01:58:29.000 Of course not.

01:58:30.000 He loves Israel.

01:58:30.000 No, he's just.

01:58:31.000 In fact, we love him.

01:58:33.000 We loves Israel.

01:58:33.000 He's clocking our tea.

01:58:35.000 He's clocked our T.

01:58:36.000 Oh, no.

01:58:37.000 It sounds like a bait the way it was phrased.

01:58:39.000 We have to read this one, guys.

01:58:40.000 It's the last show of 2025.

01:58:42.000 Geraldo Don says, per Tim Cast tradition, I'm with my wife.

01:58:46.000 Let's go.

01:58:46.000 The hospital in the hospital today, welcoming our twin girls, Cassandra and Isabella.

01:58:51.000 Get to making babies.

01:58:52.000 Twin.

01:58:53.000 Patriots.

01:58:53.000 Twin.

01:58:54.000 Excellent name choices, by the way.

01:58:56.000 I can't wait for the first person that's like, I'm in the hospital with my wife.

01:58:59.000 We all start clapping.

01:58:59.000 He's like, Yeah, she's getting her stomach pumped.

01:59:03.000 I'm just waiting for someone to have children, twins, fraternal, and tell us that they're naming them Tristan and Isolda.

01:59:12.000 Only Phil gets the reference.

01:59:14.000 I didn't get it.

01:59:14.000 Exactly.

01:59:15.000 Well, you're not well read.

01:59:16.000 See, these are the problems I have because I get these marketing people being like, Tim, no one knows what Tristan and Izolda is.

01:59:21.000 You can't talk about that.

01:59:22.000 Don't we have Scandinavian so much?

01:59:24.000 No.

01:59:24.000 You can talk about it.

01:59:26.000 I know.

01:59:27.000 Pure shit.

01:59:27.000 I like saying weird esoteric things.

01:59:29.000 You guys can Google search Tristan and Izolda.

01:59:31.000 You'll have fun.

01:59:32.000 And black sales and white sales.

01:59:33.000 Come on, you guys don't know the story?

01:59:34.000 No.

01:59:35.000 Sounds awesome, though.

01:59:36.000 The guy went to go rescue the chick, and then he's like, if I fly the white sail, it means I rescued her.

01:59:41.000 If not, but then he like they fell in love, and then the king was like, oh, what was me?

01:59:46.000 It's like a famous folklore, whatever, dude.

01:59:50.000 Okay.

01:59:50.000 This guy, Ian.

01:59:51.000 I'm starting to believe.

01:59:52.000 You need to read a book.

01:59:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:59:54.000 That's why you will never be a privateer.

01:59:56.000 Privateer.

01:59:57.000 It's not in my blood.

01:59:58.000 I pay the privateers.

02:00:00.000 And I know you know the story of Gellert's Grave, right?

02:00:03.000 This one about by name.

02:00:05.000 Oh, my God.

02:00:05.000 Sorry.

02:00:07.000 No.

02:00:07.000 I know you all know because I've told the story like 800,000 times.

02:00:10.000 You know what?

02:00:11.000 You know what?

02:00:11.000 I've only read the rapids.

02:00:12.000 Because it's the last show of the year, I want to do it.

02:00:16.000 So the legend, which I'll probably get wrong, but I'm going to try my best, is in Wales.

02:00:21.000 And it's a story of a Welsh prince who went about his daily dealings, as he does, leaving his son, his young son, in the care of his trusty hound, Gellert.

02:00:31.000 And as he went about to do his daily tidings of such, you know, errands, maybe a little hunt, he returns home to find that the door is open to his home.

02:00:42.000 And when he enters, panicked, he sees his furniture flipped about.

02:00:48.000 He sees where his son was in the crib.

02:00:51.000 The crib is flipped over.

02:00:52.000 There's blood everywhere.

02:00:54.000 He then sees his faithful hound, Gellert, walk up to him, blood dripping from his mouth.

02:00:58.000 And Prince Whelan, angry that Gellert, his faithful hunt, betrayed him and slain, slew his only son, drew his sword and thrust it into the side of Gellert, who then let out a dying whelp and collapsed.

02:01:13.000 The whelp of which awoke Whalen's child.

02:01:17.000 He hears the cry and he runs over and tosses the crip aside, and he finds his son safe next to the wolf that Gellert had slain to save his child.

02:01:28.000 And they say from that moment on, Prince Whelan never smiled again.

02:01:32.000 Now, they say the story is not true.

02:01:34.000 It's just a story they tell children, the moral being, do not jump to conclusions.

02:01:39.000 Yeah, patience.

02:01:40.000 It's a moral of patience and wrath.

02:01:42.000 But there is a location, I believe it's in Wales, called Gellert's Grave.

02:01:46.000 And don't jump to conclusions.

02:01:48.000 I've always wanted to make a short film about that.

02:01:51.000 I thought that it was interesting.

02:01:52.000 Maybe I can do it with AI.

02:01:53.000 How wrath is, you think of it as anger.

02:01:55.000 It's the sin known for anger.

02:01:56.000 But the opposite of that, the virtue is patience.

02:01:59.000 It's like when you're angry, you know, if you let things settle and kind of figure out why, maybe you don't have to resort to killing your dog.

02:02:07.000 All right, we got one more chat here, and it's from Norbizy.

02:02:10.000 Myron Gaines is one of the biggest reasons Harris is not president.

02:02:13.000 They should be welcoming him at every event.

02:02:16.000 Unfortunately, too much Israelis are involved in involved, which Myron exposes.

02:02:24.000 You know, they're in there now.

02:02:27.000 They're chilling.

02:02:28.000 My friends, it has been a tremendous year.

02:02:31.000 There have been ups, there have been downs, there have been shocking moments.

02:02:33.000 We laughed, we cried, we hugged.

02:02:36.000 Thank you all so much for the memories.

02:02:38.000 Thank you for watching.

02:02:39.000 Christmas is abound, and I hope you have the warmest of winter holidays with your family.

02:02:44.000 I don't mean physically warm.

02:02:45.000 I hope you have great snow if you live in the snowy area and there's jingle bells and all the good stuff.

02:02:49.000 But I mean warm family tidings.

02:02:51.000 So it really does mean a lot to me to all of you out there who have supported the work that we've done.

02:02:56.000 If you want to give us a going away present, a Christmas present, join us at TimCast.com, the Discord server.

02:03:03.000 It is not money that will be used because I'm being threatened by Zionists or the Irish. 1.00

02:03:07.000 It is money that is generally just used for the company.

02:03:11.000 The money is used to pay staff.

02:03:13.000 The money is used to feed staff and buy equipment.

02:03:17.000 And there's a great community of people on the Discord that are around 24-7 with morning shows, pre-shows, after shows.

02:03:23.000 And they will be there throughout the holidays.

02:03:25.000 Several of the people, there have been several people in the Discord who have gotten married.

02:03:28.000 In fact, I believe just the other day, they had a child.

02:03:31.000 Yep.

02:03:31.000 We had our first Discord child.

02:03:33.000 Wow.

02:03:34.000 A child of legend.

02:03:35.000 A child of prophecy.

02:03:38.000 But regardless, maybe you don't want to join the community.

02:03:40.000 Your membership just makes all this possible.

02:03:42.000 As we ended the new year with a lot of questions around how we're going to operate, how this project is going to expand, we could use your support.

02:03:49.000 So thank you so much.

02:03:50.000 Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:03:52.000 I will probably still have some videos I'll put up throughout the winter break because I'll probably get bored.

02:03:57.000 And there's fun vlogs to be made.

02:03:59.000 But thank you so much.

02:04:00.000 Rolo, do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:01.000 Yeah, just the sixth book is out right now.

02:04:03.000 This is the Irrational Mail Reignite.

02:04:05.000 It's the sixth book in the series right now.

02:04:06.000 It just came out.

02:04:07.000 We just published in November.

02:04:09.000 And Audible comes out on Monday, actually.

02:04:12.000 Awesome.

02:04:13.000 So all that's good to go.

02:04:15.000 And I'm actually going into surgery.

02:04:17.000 Oh, really?

02:04:18.000 I think you're your producer.

02:04:20.000 I talked to you about this.

02:04:21.000 The reason I couldn't come out in the summertime was because I had some medical issues that I have to have taken care of.

02:04:26.000 And so I'll be going in on Tuesday.

02:04:27.000 It should be okay.

02:04:28.000 All right, well, I hope so.

02:04:29.000 I've got a good bit coming out on the other side of it.

02:04:31.000 And got a lot of things to do coming up in the next year.

02:04:34.000 We're awesome.

02:04:35.000 All right.

02:04:35.000 Well, thanks for hanging out.

02:04:36.000 Thanks.

02:04:37.000 Mr. Brown.

02:04:38.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.

02:04:40.000 And yeah, 2025 has been really good to me.

02:04:42.000 I started here at Timcast end of March, and it's changed my life.

02:04:46.000 And it's only been like four or five beatings to get his work in order.

02:04:49.000 It's true.

02:04:49.000 It's been very, Tim is a very Singaporean style of infrastructure.

02:04:53.000 But thank you to Tim and the crew.

02:04:55.000 It's been a great year.

02:04:56.000 Thanks for coming to Vegas, man.

02:04:58.000 Yeah, man.

02:04:58.000 Thanks, Tate.

02:04:59.000 Everybody, one thank you again for this year.

02:05:02.000 What a time to be alive.

02:05:03.000 Keep making your best stuff right now and keep putting it out because having dramatic, resounding responses.

02:05:09.000 Keep going.

02:05:10.000 Keep going.

02:05:10.000 Go to graphene.movie, which is what I've been working on.

02:05:13.000 I've been producing this graphene movie out of Rice University.

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02:05:18.000 Check it out.

02:05:19.000 Sign up for the mailing list.

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02:05:22.000 Do your best.

02:05:23.000 Make love.

02:05:25.000 Have a wonderful year.

02:05:26.000 See you later.

02:05:26.000 I am Philip Remains on Twix.

02:05:29.000 I just want to wish everyone a very Merry Christmas, a Happy New Year.

02:05:32.000 And I want to say thank you to Tim Poole for allowing me to be a part of this.

02:05:36.000 I really enjoy coming on here every night and giving my opinion.

02:05:41.000 You can check out my band, All That Remains, at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.

02:05:46.000 We're going on tour next year starting in May, or actually starting April 29th.

02:05:50.000 The tour is going to be all that remains.

02:05:51.000 Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.

02:05:53.000 We're going to be out for a few weeks.

02:05:54.000 Don't forget, the left lane is for crime.

02:05:57.000 We will see you all likely January 5th.

02:06:01.000 But stick around, we'll probably still have clips coming up.

02:06:04.000 And who am I kidding?

02:06:06.000 I'm going to work at some point during the break because I'm going to be bored.

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