Donald Trump had a secret plan to put Charlie Kirk in the White House, according to the Daily Mail. The plan was for him to run for President in 2036 as the Republican candidate for the VP nomination. This is the last show of the year, and it's going to be a lot of fun.
00:03:12.000However, currently at Amfest, it's, I don't know, you know, I say civil war because it's shock titling or whatever, whatever you're going to call it.
00:03:52.000And then eventually they let him back in.
00:03:54.000But you can see right now, the gatekeeping has begun, and the Republican Party and this machine is going to be reshaped into something else.
00:04:17.000I don't want to drag anybody, but some of the people that we've been talking to. abruptly at the last minute are like, you know what, I can't be involved in this.
00:04:24.000People are terrified of being murdered, of being shot at.
00:04:27.000And I think when I come out and say, hey, they shot at my studio, a lot of people are going to be like, dude, I don't want to be involved in whatever is going on right now.
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00:09:31.000Michael Knowles made this point on his show, and it's something that not a lot of conservatives want to hear because it's like a sobering reality.
00:09:37.000But what he said is that assassinations work.
00:09:50.000He occupied such a massive space on the right.
00:09:53.000And I mean, I'm glad the Daily Mail is at least reporting that there was a plan in place, but I think it was going to be obvious that either way, he was going to be a presidential, certainly a candidate.
00:10:03.000I mean, he held unbelievable weight in the conservative movement.
00:10:06.000It would have just been inevitable, I think.
00:10:08.000Yeah, I don't think there was a lot of people in the conservative movement.
00:10:12.000I don't think there's anyone in the conservative movement that had the influence that Charlie did.
00:10:15.000You know, his ability to reach out and talk to young people.
00:10:18.000I saw basically a sizzle reel of all of the people that were just adoring Charlie the day that he was shot, right?
00:10:27.000Like it was a three-month anniversary.
00:10:29.000Someone put together a sizzle reel, and there was nothing gruesome in it.
00:10:32.000It was about celebrating Charlie's life.
00:10:34.000And even that day, just, you know, there's like 3,000 people there.
00:10:40.000And he was treated like a rock star, you know?
00:10:42.000And when you have someone that is that influential and has that much goodwill towards him from a voting block, I mean, it's unstoppable when it comes to, at least politically, you know, it's something that was remarkable, honestly.
00:10:59.000So it is obviously, it's a massive loss.
00:11:01.000And it is good to hear the Daily Mail talking about this and putting this information out there.
00:11:07.000Yeah, he's aptly dubbed the quarterback of the MAGA movement.
00:11:10.000When your quarterback goes down, your offense grinds to a halt.
00:11:12.000I mean, look what's happening at Amphest right now.
00:11:14.000Look at all the things that have happened in the wake of Charlie Kirk.
00:11:17.000I think it's just imploding right now.
00:11:20.000I think we're looking at there's been a political elite civil war going on since Trump got in.
00:11:26.000The Democrats, what did they, they called Trump the Pied Piper candidate.
00:11:31.000They hoped that if Trump won the primary, the Republican primary, he would lead the Republicans in a direction that would cost them the election.
00:11:42.000And since then, they have been doing everything in their power to destroy the right populist movement.
00:11:47.000This with the taking out of Charlie, either through sheer convenience that some left wacko, you know, left line wacko did this, or somebody planned something.
00:11:55.000Because I don't think for a second it's a lone shooter theory.
00:11:58.000Because when I remember the day he got shot and I was talking with my wife and I said, you know, I said, if you want to watch this video, watch this video.
00:12:47.000I think, especially with the money they were raising.
00:12:49.000I think the Tyler Robinson story is the closest to reality, but who knows?
00:12:54.000However, this idea that he acted alone, I think, is silly, especially with his reporting that there were vehicles gathering outside his home and there was a meeting and people were going on social media and posting that they had foreknowledge of his assassination.
00:13:05.000The most likely thing, it sounds like liberal activists, left-leaning progressive activists, plotted this, and it wasn't just because Charlie was hateful, it's because he was effective.
00:13:20.000I just think that the likely scenario would be Tyler Robinson working with other people of his political persuasion, not like, you know, I don't know what was happening.
00:14:21.000Tulsi Gabbard for the Republican Party, and then the Democrats just bypassed the primary and selected with superdelegates some despicable, weak man that people thought was useless.
00:14:34.000Let's play a game where hold on, hold on, hold on.
00:14:38.000Here's what we're going to do, brother.
00:14:39.000We're going to walk on the strip up to some regular old people, some homies, and we're going to ask them, would you vote for a woman president?
00:15:05.000And they ask them, like, what if the candidate was like, you know, the crippled old man and they're like, nah, women shouldn't be president.
00:15:11.000Even women don't know I wouldn't vote for a woman.
00:15:12.000Yeah, there's lots of like attributes of a presidential candidate that negatively impact them potentially.
00:15:16.000I mean, it's difficult for men that are short to sort of win the presidency.
00:15:24.000It's difficult for single men to win the presidency.
00:15:26.000I mean, that was the biggest hit against Tim Scott in the primaries was that he was single and then just swirled like homosexual allegations.
00:15:33.000It's like you need, but there's like, there's a lot of physical attributes that come into play because you're selling them on a package.
00:15:47.000Hillary Clinton was just very unlikable, politically evil, and there were a lot of people that don't want to vote for a woman.
00:15:54.000Yeah, I mean, people downplay the actual effect that has when people see her next to Trump on a debate stage where he's towering above her, wide shoulders.
00:17:24.000What I'm saying is a legitimate race with a real primary, and real, I mean, with super delegates and all that, where they actually are like, we want this female.
00:17:33.000If the Democrats collude with the Republicans and say, we're going to pick a guy who's literally in a coma, and then you're going to pick a charismatic woman, then the woman's probably going to win.
00:17:44.000Like a, like a, and Nikki Haley pulls really well against Democrat candidates purely because she's not really threatening to the sort of regime as it stands in any way.
00:17:52.000If you want to bring in like a truly formidable paradigm changing candidate, they're going to be a male because you're going to have to sell them on the additional factors.
00:17:58.000So Trump, that's what Trump had to be.
00:18:00.000I was going to say, I wrote this essay probably about a year after the Trump Hillary in 2016, right?
00:18:07.000And I spelled it out this way is Hillary was so unlikable and was such the, she's like the epitome of feminism.
00:18:17.000She's like the most foaming at the mouth.
00:18:20.000If you want to say like, you know, what does a feminist look like?
00:18:23.000You're going to go to Hillary Clinton, right?
00:18:30.000There's only one other person, one male on planet Earth that is as big a kaiju as you know, it's like Godzilla versus Rodan or something.
00:18:41.000And you got Hillary on one side, and then you've got Trump on the other side.
00:18:44.000Trump is the only one who is so over-the-top masculine that he could possibly be a contender against somebody who is so over-the-top feminist as she is.
00:18:54.000And so, like, if you think about it this way, though, everybody thought that Hillary was going to win so much so that Newsweek had the covers already prepared for it.
00:19:06.000House of Cards changed the plot of House of Cards, expecting there to be a female president in the Super Bowl ads of, well, I guess it would have been 2017 at that point.
00:19:16.000The Super Bowl ads had to all go back and rejigger all of their Super Bowl ads that they'd shot six months prior because they shot them with the intention of building up little girls to be the next female president because they were so certain that Hillary was going to be the next or the first female president.
00:19:33.000Everybody thought that whips in there and nobody wanted to.
00:19:37.000Let me tell you about one of the greatest days of my life.
00:19:39.000I was sitting there watching the New York Times probability meter, greater than 99% Hillary Clinton.
00:19:46.000And then every 10 minutes, every few minutes, it's just moving.
00:19:49.000I remember when I got to 50-50 and I'm sitting there and I'm just, I'm sorry, I put my feet up, I'm laughing.
00:19:55.000And then I remember when it ticked over to Trump winning.
00:20:35.000Let's jump to this story from Politico.
00:20:36.000MAGA infighting erupts at Turning Point USA Conference.
00:20:40.000Two of the Night's headliners, Ben Shapiro, and Tucker Carlson threw jabs at each other in their speeches.
00:20:45.000And I'm hearing now that people are like, it's pretty tense because you've got different factions now that are basically going to odds with each other.
00:22:03.000And I got to be honest, I really don't want to be there.
00:22:07.000With this, with all the stuff going on, with all this bickering, bitching, infighting, I don't know what is going on with this, but I will tell you this.
00:22:14.000I do not care for the suit-wearing Republican Party.
00:23:25.000If this is the direction they're going, it's going to be Zejus with like Candace Owens, or it's going to be suit-wearing, you know, Bush-era interventionist, boring, no, like, I'm not there.
00:24:10.000The Republicans are going weird on me, man, just like the Democrats used to.
00:24:14.000I'm going to try and save the Democratic Party and bring it back to normalcy.
00:24:17.000And then this person could advocate against the weird trends and the kids stuff, push out the weird, far-lefty cultural stuff, keep the far-lefty economic stuff, and be someone who appears reasonable to working-class Americans and actually win.
00:24:32.000Republicans are still have a better approval rating than Democrats.
00:24:38.000So, I mean, the Republicans still could make something out of this, but if they're fighting with each other about who's going to actually be in charge of the Republican Party, because that's the sense that I get about the Amphest stuff, right?
00:24:52.000Like the fight is now, okay, we want to keep the people that we find offensive or we find distasteful.
00:25:00.000We want to keep them out, and we want this to go back to the kind of Romney-esque, normal, quote-unquote, Republicans.
00:25:06.000But that's not what the MAGA coalition is.
00:25:53.000And then Vance comes out and says, I don't really care about a group chat leak when the AG candidate in Virginia is threatening to kill Republicans.
00:26:00.000Like, you guys need to clean up your side before we ever consider hall monitoring our side.
00:26:06.000So I do think Vance is probably the only guy that's capable of stitching that coalition together, but the knives are out for him from both the neocons and sort of the Groyper aligned people.
00:26:15.000But I do think with the Democrats, they're going to struggle to actually present sort of a moderate MMA type of guy because they're beholden to their base.
00:26:23.000And that's sort of the issue in the Democrat Party is the base has no appetite whatsoever to Ayron Fresh wanted to send you a video.
00:26:30.000They're doing faster than they wanted to.
00:26:37.000I just think next year they're not going to be let in.
00:26:40.000And that's going to be bad for the Republican Party.
00:26:43.000Well, no, I was going to say their base has no appetite to moderate right now.
00:26:46.000And then here's the primary issue for a moderate Democrat if they were to try to merge on the national scene is they're also beholden to staffers.
00:26:53.000And so when you're trying to staff a campaign, when you're trying to staff an administration, the problem is in the Democrat Party on the left is they're all functionally activists.
00:27:01.000They all believe they're in perpetual revolution.
00:27:03.000And so, okay, let's say, okay, maybe a Rogan type of guy does come along who's maybe a bit more moderate.
00:27:08.000He's going to instantly get pushed to the left by his staff.
00:27:24.000Owen Jones, he's a politico in, he's a commentator in the UK, and he made, he, he misgendered someone in some kind of online discussion or whatever, and he was getting lambasted by people.
00:27:37.000So the idea that woke has gone away is totally wrong.
00:27:41.000And that's still very, very influential on the left.
00:27:44.000So, someone that would be a Rogan-esque kind of everyman's man, the feminists are not going to get behind him.
00:27:50.000The intersectionalists are not going to get behind him.
00:27:53.000I'm glad you brought up Rogan-esque because the first thing that happened right after Trump got into office, you have all these talk shows that we're talking, how did we lose?
00:28:01.000I can't believe we're trying to analyze how they lost.
00:28:03.000And the very first thing they said was, you know, well, it's, I think it was Dana Bash was the first one to mention that we're living in the manosphere right now.
00:28:11.000Literally, I still have that, I still have that clip.
00:28:13.000But I watched all these talk shows in the sort of aftermath of the election, and they were all saying, Well, we don't have a Jordan Peterson, we don't have a Theo Fawn, we don't have a Joe Rogan, we don't have a, you know, somebody who's like popular with the boys.
00:28:29.000You know, how do we get the men to come back to the to the Democrat Party?
00:28:35.000Well, you never had them in the first place.
00:28:37.000In fact, you actively ran them out of the party.
00:28:39.000But now they're trying to, I'm seeing the rise of this sort of character right now.
00:28:43.000And I'm just going to use Scott Galloway as the example here.
00:28:47.000But Scott Galloway is that he's the safest edge lord that there is right now.
00:28:56.000And it's always these half measures, but it always comes back to sort of, you know, he wants to address the fact that young men are having issues and problems these days, but then he'll turn around somehow and make it the same people's fault for that.
00:29:11.000They're trying to sort of groom a figure.
00:29:14.000I'm not saying they're going to run Scott Galloway as a presidential candidate, but somebody like him who has that kind of gravitas, I guess, that a Rogan does, or like that sort of online podcaster sort of voice that they can relate to.
00:29:29.000I think that's probably a direction they want to go.
00:29:31.000I agree with you guys on the there's a lot of feminists, but the same way we are seeing the icing out of the Zejus people on the right, I would not be surprised to see as these people keep saying, Where's our left-wing Joe Rogan? with yeah, maybe we need to get rid of these these whack-aloons.
00:29:47.000And so you will start seeing it's not difficult to do.
00:29:50.000You can easily like, look what's happening with Candace.
00:29:54.000She's the center stage of the conspiracy, conspirator right.
00:30:01.000This may actually rope all of them, all of the fringe weirdos into a space where you get moderate conservatives and moderate liberals largely agreeing, and then you have the whack-aloon left with the whack-alone right together because they hate Israel.
00:30:13.000Like, one of the things I tweeted was: the future left-right divide is going to be those who are ambivalent to pro-Israel and those who hate Israel.
00:30:20.000Because Anna Kasparian is now a Candace Owens fan.
00:30:23.000And the Young Turks audience in the comment section are big Candace Owens fans.
00:30:27.000They have found their unity in hating Israel.
00:30:29.000And that's going to be some other weird faction.
00:30:31.000And then moderates are going to be like, well, you know, you're going to start.
00:30:36.000If CNN starts saying these people are just plumb crazy, starts trying to bring it back.
00:30:41.000And they occupy then a similar space to Fox News, the way it used to be, where they largely agree on everything except for a few wedge issues.
00:30:49.000And then you're going to have the online space of the Zejus people.
00:30:52.000And then you're going to have the mainstream space of moderate politics.
00:30:55.000I do think that they're going to, it's very pro-Israel, by the way.
00:30:58.000Well, I mean, you're starting to see the Democrats try to, like, like you're talking about, try to sort of get people to pass, get their candidates to pass the sniff test for like sort of what masculine politics would look like.
00:31:10.000Like there's this Senate, there's a Senate candidate in Maine, Graham Platiner, and he does the thing where he wears the flannel and like he cuts these ads where he's like chopping wood and he's like tries to talk in a really deep voice.
00:31:21.000But he tries to like sell these policies that are inherently like really gay in a way that would pass the sniff test for like normal people.
00:31:29.000And so he'll like cut an ad where he's like, you know what I hate to see?
00:31:34.000I hate when these chuds misgender a beautiful trans woman.
00:31:39.000So it's like it's got the facade of like a tough man.
00:31:42.000I think he was like a Marine or something.
00:31:44.000But the problem is these guys are just so beholden to their base because the ones that aren't, the ones that are actually pushing maybe more towards the middle, they get completely land-basted by the Democrats.
00:31:53.000Like look at how they've treated John Fetterman.
00:31:55.000Let's jump to the story we've got breaking from Amfest.
00:31:59.000This is a speech by Vivek Ramaswamy roasting the idea of heritage Americans.
00:32:09.000There's a different vision of American identity that's emergent in certain corridors of the online right.
00:32:15.000And it says that your identity as an American is based on your lineage.
00:32:21.000That how long you have been in the country, your lineage, and your genetics tied to the blood and soil of the country, determines how American you are.
00:32:29.000It is the idea of a heritage American that says the truest form of an American is somebody who is a descendant of the American Revolution period or before.
00:32:39.000And I will tell you, this idea of the heritage American, we ought to have this discussion.
00:33:14.000If you really believe in this idea, think about where it leads you.
00:33:17.000Leads you to believe that Donald Trump is less of an American than Joe Biden because Donald Trump's mother was an immigrant and his grandfather was an immigrant.
00:33:27.000Leads you to believe that somehow Bernie Sanders is more of an American than Senator Bernie Moreno from my home state, an America first patriot, because Bernie Moreno was a naturalized citizen from Colombia.
00:33:40.000It makes you think that Marco Rubio, our great Secretary of State, is somehow less of an American than Elizabeth Warren because she's a Native American, which we all know, right?
00:35:27.000The argument is if your grandparents were here, you are a heritage American, which means even starting today, if a family comes here and they have kids and those kids are raised, they're saying it's like third generation, basically, people who have stronger ties to the country and what it was built out to be.
00:35:45.000It doesn't mean before the Revolutionary War that is a straw man.
00:35:49.000There's an argument from people who are saying, my grandfather built, helped build town hall.
00:35:56.000They brought in Haitian migrants into my town, and now they are voting against me.
00:36:01.000My family fought and died for my ability to have a good life.
00:36:07.000What about my great-grandfather was a drunken boxer and a total abusive loser that contributed next to nothing to society, but he was here.
00:36:17.000I am not standing here to say that Vivek is wrong when he says the transgender assassin was more American than he is.
00:37:20.000And a larger group booze and says nay.
00:37:24.000And that group are the Haitian migrants that were brought in by the Democrats and the Republicans because there's not enough people.
00:37:29.000Now, the tradition, the lifeblood, the legacy, the memory is voted against by newcomers who came here through temporary protected status or otherwise.
00:38:03.000It is just not good for the people whose families built the place and want to sustain it.
00:38:09.000That a whole influx of, a massive influx of people displaces them and then votes against their cultural interests.
00:38:17.000That is not a good thing because it leads to racial animosity, cultural animosity, and violence between peoples.
00:38:24.000So this argument, this Heritage Americans, if you actually want to understand it, is a fine argument.
00:38:30.000I would still argue that a crackpot leftist whose family's been here for 100 years is a bad person and Vivek is a good person.
00:38:36.000But I think it's important to point out that, to be honest, I'm not very interested in the political opinions of foreigners in America.
00:38:45.000I value an American communist's opinion more than an Indian migrant's opinion because they are Americans and we have a system where we debate and negotiate.
00:38:58.000And if they're like Dinesh Dasude, I'll put it like this.
00:39:02.000The ultimate conclusion of Vivek Ramaswamy's argument is a man born in China should be able to become president if he becomes naturalized because there's no such thing as a heritage American.
00:39:18.000Well, what Vivek is doing here is really pernicious, and people need to watch out for this, is the play that he is putting out here, what he's proposing, is he's using American as an adjective rather than a noun.
00:39:28.000Where every other nationality on planet Earth, it's used as a noun.
00:39:33.000And the reason he is doing this is because fundamentally, he does not believe that anybody that has any lineage in this country is entitled to the country.
00:39:40.000What he is doing is he's dividing the world between Americans and future Americans because he views it as an adjective.
00:39:46.000And that's a really sinister thing that he's doing.
00:39:49.000That's why he's strawmanning the argument.
00:39:51.000And also, it's very convenient for someone named Vivek Ramaswamy to view it in this.
00:39:56.000And do you think someone born in China grew up there, they're 35, they moved to the United States.
00:40:00.000After a few years, they get their citizenship.
00:40:02.000Should they be allowed to be president?
00:40:22.000I know, but he's doing the moral argument about how to treat each other going forward as Americans.
00:40:27.000Like, if your parents came here from India and you were born here and you're totally Americanized, you're basically as American as I am.
00:40:33.000That's the problem is we're using that.
00:40:37.000If, again, using it as an adjective, as the way that you hate his mentioning it, you're an American in that someone handed you a card saying, congratulations, you are legally an American.
00:40:47.000The question about what makes someone an American, we have cultural traditions.
00:41:06.000This is what the left has been proposing for the last 50 years, like post-really 1960s when this idea of the propositional nation came about.
00:41:14.000So he's fundamentally using a leftist argument.
00:41:16.000Again, I'll say it is he's using American as an adjective and that we're the only country on earth that is supposed to do that.
00:42:24.000We can cite Arnold, but that's the reason is we have to dig to think of an actual example of someone that has moved to this country and then is exceptionally sort of, if we are to sort of step into the adjective framework, okay, he would be considered like someone that is, you know, very American.
00:42:38.000And I don't think like when we're sort of, you know, drawing up policy, we should build it on exceptions.
00:42:44.000I think the norm has been, certainly over the last 60 years, that people that have moved to this country just simply don't feel a deeper sense of rootedness to this country that heritage Americans do.
00:42:53.000And that's why that's a useful definition.
00:42:54.000And I mean, like, I'm descended, I have like Mayflower descent, but I mean, I think Jack Pesovic has laid this out quite well because he obviously came a little bit later, but he's sort of sorted Americanness into these categories.
00:43:06.000Then you have the antebellum people that arrived in the 19th century up until Ellis Island.
00:43:09.000These are people that had to earn skin in the game through these moments in American history.
00:43:13.000It's like the American Civil War was great.
00:43:15.000All those people that came in the antebellum period then bought into the system.
00:43:18.000Same thing with the Ellis Islanders, the World Wars breakout, they buy into the system.
00:43:22.000But even when the Ellis Islanders came, like, you know, your Italians, the Irish, they had a lot of problems assimilating in the United States.
00:43:29.000It was a long time it took to process these people and fundamentally assimilate them.
00:43:33.000And so, but the problem right now, among others, with the way immigration has broken down over the last 60 years, is it's the volume of immigrants because we've brought in so many that you can't assimilate people because they just build, they sort of fall into these ethnic enclaves.
00:43:46.000They're not actually interacting with Americans.
00:43:48.000And so it's been the volume fundamentally that's the issue.
00:43:51.000And that's why people like me and Phil have proposed net zero migration because that allows the America to sort of get the boot off of its neck, allow these people to properly assimilate before we even consider bringing in more.
00:44:02.000So, knowing that, is that why you think someone like Vivek is making, like, planting the seeds of this sort of idea that like maybe like naturalized citizens should be able to run for he's upholding the propositional nation.
00:44:15.000There's one reason: the powers that be understand our system will buckle without new labor to sustain its economy.
00:44:23.000Republicans understand it the same as Democrats, but the right populist movement wants to preserve its cultural traditions more than it wants to preserve its economy.
00:44:30.000Because to a working-class guy making $60,000 a year, he says, I don't care about your banking institutions.
00:44:50.000And they say, well, because we need the tax base for the roads, because we need the tax base to put up buildings and to fund wars and the troops.
00:45:00.000And so I'm not putting this all on Vivek.
00:45:03.000The obvious direction the Republican Party is going to go is going to be very much aligned with the left where they're going to say all immigrants are welcome.
00:45:09.000There will be a segment, I think, of the Republican Party that's going to say that gets more, I don't know if racist is the right word, but more nationalist, more puritanical about like, if your blood isn't American, then you're not a real American.
00:45:23.000How long have you, has your family been here?
00:46:56.000Well, it just illustrates the issue that what's happening right now is all these guys are getting up on stage and they're settling scores.
00:47:01.000I mean, that's what you're seeing here with Vivek is he clearly is really bothered by the discourse around Heritage Americans, people just simply saying, hey, can we have what everybody else has, which is like a sense of self-identity?
00:47:11.000Because the problem with Vivek's argument fundamentally is that if we are to start denaturalizing people, which needs to happen, then you're going to have to ask the question, okay, well, who is indistinguishably American?
00:47:20.000That's the conversation that has to have.
00:47:22.000And if we set up what he is proposing, this propositional nation, it's going to be impossible to denaturalize anybody because he could denaturalize someone from Oregon who's an Antifa, but their family's been in the country for 400 years.
00:47:32.000And that's what's so annoying is seeing guys like him get up when we should be focused.
00:47:35.000We're like getting hammered in the polls right now, approaching the midterms.
00:47:38.000And these guys like Vivek, like Shapiro, these sorts of people are getting up on stage and they're using it as an opportunity to settle scores.
00:47:43.000Mark my words: if the Democrats win the presidency, they will pack the courts.
00:48:04.000This is actually in the Constitution that you have to be born here.
00:48:06.000And they're going to say, since the argument they'll make is this country has changed markedly in the past 250 years.
00:48:15.000With the 14th Amendment and the recognition that those who were born here are citizens, questions must be asked about the intention of the Constitution when it said you must be born here.
00:48:26.000Well, as many of these slaves who were born here were not citizens and only became citizens after the fact, but would be eligible to be president, the same rights must be afforded anyone who is granted legitimate citizenship, for there can be no second-class citizen.
00:48:41.000And to argue that someone who is legally granted citizenship cannot hold office would make them second-class in the eyes of the Constitution, which is unconstitutional.
00:49:04.000And then you're going to have the interests of China and Americans.
00:49:06.000People go to bed and then they wake up in five years, maybe, but people, I don't think anybody, I mean, there's a sorry, Tate, what were you going to say?
00:49:12.000No, I'll just say, well, I mean, the issue with this is why this is a battle that's worth having because the problem is if you're using American as an adjective rather than a noun, a noun has a definition that cannot change.
00:49:23.000An adjective, the definition is in flux.
00:49:26.000Because if the Democrats are in power and it's unmitigated, unrivaled power, they can then sort of alter what the definition of American is.
00:49:33.000And they can say, Zoron is exceptionally American because he believes in lifting everyone up.
00:50:00.000That's the argument around heritage American is okay, we need to define what is an American because we had an ethnogenesis as a people that occurred following its founding.
00:50:08.000And so you can sort of tighten ranks a little bit and say, okay, just because someone was born here and they have paperwork doesn't mean they're an American.
00:50:14.000That's just someone that was born here.
00:50:15.000I'm going to also add the idea that we started doing this.
00:50:54.000Yeah, and that shouldn't be an acceptable state of affairs when you're dealing with people that are going to be deciding policy for the United States.
00:51:04.000And regardless of how you define heritage, American, or what have you, if you think of yourself as a hyphenated American, if you think of yourself as something other than an American, that should be, in my opinion, enough to disqualify you from holding office.
00:51:17.000Yeah, I mean, because people, the reality is people have really deep connections to the places they're from, and it's really hard to break someone out of that.
00:51:24.000And I understand there's immigrants that have come to the country and they've completely left the old world behind and they truly feel 100% American.
00:51:30.000But those people are in the minority because what's happening is, again, that's human nature.
00:51:34.000That's not necessarily a bad thing that you have a deep connection to your ancestral homeland.
00:51:39.000That's why you're seeing these Somalis that have come to Minnesota immediately game the system, scam the government out of a bunch of money and send it back to Somalia because that's where they feel attachment to.
00:52:11.000I legitimately have friends that saw this and they were, there's a group chat that we have and they're like, bro, these dudes are, these dudes, one of the dudes used to, he was a Blackwater guy.
00:52:20.000He'd been to private security and stuff.
00:52:56.000It's like 15 Appalachian dudes who were working with a PMC and they bring in this massive tanker full of oil and they're now worth $50 million.
00:53:28.000You can disagree and disapprove of this attitude, but there are dudes that have been to war that really want to go back.
00:53:35.000Yeah, Eric Prince was on, it was a Bronze Age perverts podcast, and he talked about at length how the world is entering sort of this PMC era.
00:53:44.000And it's actually kind of just a return to tradition where you had privateers, where you had mercenaries and these sorts of things.
00:53:49.000That's culturally colonial powers got things done.
00:53:51.000So we are heading into a world where if you're going to get all these kids out of their basements, stroking off the porn and the lost generation pirates at and go.
00:54:00.000The total value of a full standard oil tanker on sea is $150 million.
00:54:32.000It's these PMCs who are broke and they're like, I missed the action.
00:54:35.000And so they stage a heist on armored vehicles to make money.
00:54:38.000You make a movie where it's these like semi-half-retired PMCs who are like, the jobs are just drying up.
00:54:43.000And then they see the bill passed, letters of mark being issued to seize Venezuelan tankers.
00:54:47.000I'm going to blow the plot, but it should be that they get a tanker that has some super high-tech thing on board that the American government wants, and then they issue letters of mark for them, and they're on the run from the other pirates.
00:54:58.000You just gave somebody a $100 million blockbuster movie.
00:55:58.000If you look around, all of these PMCs emerging.
00:56:00.000Because you saw in the 80s and 90s, you had people like Mark Thatcher, like Neil Ellis, who conducted these PMC activities in Africa, but it was at a very small scale.
00:56:08.000And then oftentimes, Western governments, the United States, France, the UK, would try to hamstring them as much as possible.
00:56:14.000Well, we're entering this new era where the Trump administration is really just taking the boot off of the neck of these guys who want to do these really cool, dramatic things in Africa.
00:56:23.000And then also, like, a lot of these African nations hire these PMCs because they're like, hey, we kind of like Western democracy.
00:56:29.000I don't know if we want you guys to impose it, but maybe you can help us develop it on our own.
00:56:32.000And so they utilize these PMCs to bring like prosperity to these countries.
00:56:36.000And so I think we're actually entering like a really exciting era of the world.
00:56:40.000And look, this would be a massive, massive, again, another bootlifting off the neck, so to speak, for these guys if they can just get like licenses to go and privateer in the Caribbean.
00:56:57.000This is why America is behind the ball because the Chinese and Russians have been doing this for years.
00:57:02.000I mean, like Wagner Group, that's Wagner Group's main thing has been operating in Africa.
00:57:06.000And okay, they are associated with the Russians, at least in the Eastern European theater.
00:57:09.000But in Africa, the Wagner group's basically just running loose.
00:57:12.000And they've pushed out like the French Foreign Legion, a lot of these British peacekeeping forces.
00:57:16.000They've just pushed them out because these dudes are just hungry.
00:57:18.000So what happens if someone takes the letter of mark, they go down to the Caribbean, they think they're doing good, they end up blowing up a civilian boat unintentionally.
00:57:24.000Are they considered like, hey, you're on your own now?
00:57:51.000But if you, so if you go out and kill like innocent Venezuelans on the open sea, will they still protect you?
00:57:57.000You're making an argument about specific circumstances of international incident, which could vary in a million different ways.
00:58:03.000If you accidentally, like, let's say there's a privateer warship and it fires on a tanker but misses and hits a small fishing vessel, there's going to be questions about whether it was a legitimate action sanctioned by the U.S. government, in which case they'll probably say you're fine.
00:58:17.000Now, if you're a PMC and you're like, we got a letter of mark, let's go kill civilians.
00:58:22.000I mean, we had an incident recently in the Congo where there was two Americans and I think they had like a British buddy with them.
00:58:28.000And for a variety of reasons, the Congolese government, this is the DRC, so the big Congo.
00:58:33.000And for a variety of reasons, they sort of accused these guys of attempting a coup, which was crazy because there was like three of them and a few locals.
00:58:43.000And I think, or the execution's pending.
00:58:46.000And as far as I can tell, the American government isn't really interested in intervening because they believe the Congolese have like a valid reason to carry this out.
00:58:53.000So I think that's to say that I think the Americans, if this happened on foreign solo and they catch you, they just cut you loose.
00:59:00.000I mean, unless you make it back to Miami, then you're probably good.
00:59:03.000Because we don't have an extradition treaty with Venezuela.
00:59:05.000Like, there's no need for us to go to bat for them.
00:59:08.000So, I mean, and look, there are PMCs in the U.S. Like, like I said, you know, Eric Prince's, I don't know what his company's called now, but they're very capable.
00:59:19.000You know, they have the weaponry that would be required to do this type of stuff.
00:59:24.000They have dudes that a lot of the dudes that get out of the special forces or get out of direct action teams, they're like, man, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't worth staying in the military because you're not, you don't get paid enough.
00:59:35.000But when I get done, I mean, I'll make 250K a year to go and do private military contracting.
01:00:56.000And also, again, this is very lucrative because these guys can make a lot of money.
01:01:01.000I know a bunch of dudes that, you know, back when it was Iraq and Blackwater and stuff, they were making six figures very easily.
01:01:09.000And six figures 15 years ago in Iraq is a lot of money.
01:01:13.000It's different than six figures nowadays.
01:01:16.000And the nice thing about the PMCs is that they actually are quite, they tighten their ranks quite effectively.
01:01:21.000Not to, again, site back to the French Foreign Legion, but one problem the French Foreign Legion had when they were operating in West Africa is they would recruit a lot of guys that were also from West Africa.
01:01:31.000So what happened is they would join the French Foreign Legion, get deployed back to their home countries, and they would just go and settle scores the entire time while they were there.
01:01:37.000And they were like, well, we have impunity because we have the FFL backing us.
01:01:39.000So the nice thing about PMCs is the ranks are super tight and they like only hire special forces, guys like these.
01:01:44.000So it actually lets these countries that would be hiring PMCs to be rest assured that these guys aren't going to act up and like start settling scores left and right.
01:02:14.000If you're a young guy, you're looking for adventure and you have that fighting spirit.
01:02:17.000I mean, there's an argument we made that the U.S. military can't offer that for you anymore.
01:02:20.000So if there's like a private enterprise solution for that where you can still get that experience in life, make some good money, and then actually have like missions and stories that are like cool.
01:02:50.000If you're a guy who dresses like some like, I don't know, long-haired, freaky person and with maybe wearing like some kind of weird orange jacket or something and you sound goofy when you talk.
01:03:01.000And then when he's dating someone, he has someone who looks just like he does.
01:03:04.000But no, I mean, in all seriousness, and it's that people adopt an identity, a style from their culture, from where they come from, things that make sense.
01:03:15.000There isn't a large, largely American identity in American culture.
01:03:19.000The reason I bring this up is, you know, my wife and I are very, very, very similar.
01:04:03.000That's like the perfect deployment of the word because it's true.
01:04:06.000It's like, how do you get these guys who are fundamentally speaking?
01:04:09.000We were talking about the other day with music, how with Zoomers, men and women listen to completely different music.
01:04:15.000There's not any artists that cross over, have crossover appeal for both sexes because Zoomer men and Zoomer women live in two completely different paradigms.
01:04:25.000You'll see this phenomenon actually play out on Instagram is every once in a while, I will get a reel that's clearly targeted towards women, and then you'll see the comments and then it'll be like a male on there.
01:04:33.000He's like, guys, I'm deep behind enemy lines.
01:04:34.000Like, I don't know what they're talking about.
01:04:37.000It's like, it really illustrates to the point is like, we have a very tough time relating to the other sex because it's just two completely different worlds.
01:04:43.000And at this part, I mean, you're seeing in South Korea the divergence politically.
01:04:46.000I think that's where we're heading towards, is where men and women, not only do they not speak the same language, they don't really have any cultural touch points to share, but they legitimately do not view the world the same way fundamentally.
01:04:55.000I don't know how you make a marriage work in that instance.
01:04:58.000The damage that feminism has done to society just overall.
01:05:03.000Well, I mean, there's been like a separation between men and women for a long time.
01:05:06.000It's like the boys on one side of the playground, the girls on the other side of the playground.
01:05:09.000We're just seeing that play out in different factions right now or different contexts, I guess.
01:05:15.000So whether it's music or it's political affiliation, I mean, you guys have talked about this, I don't know how many times, the divide between men and women politically right now.
01:05:24.000And I think her name was Helen Andrews.
01:05:46.000It's more because of the way as human beings in hunter-gatherer tribes, women were the berry pickers and the gatherers and men were the hunters and they would go out.
01:05:54.000So when women organize societies, it's in a more egalitarian, communitarian way because they're strength of numbers.
01:06:41.000And I've been reading a lot of these stories lately about how we're going to teach these boys how to be respectful to women, right?
01:06:48.000there's two different forms of respect.
01:06:50.000There's a hierarchical respect, which is what do you do that makes you respectable on that hierarchy, which is the way that men organize societies.
01:06:57.000And then there's everyone is deserving of respect and you get some respect and you get some respect and you get some respect and you're not going to be able to do that.
01:07:02.000Which participation trophy, you know, a version of respect where everybody sort of has this common thing.
01:07:08.000And that's more the female way of doing it.
01:07:10.000And so when people say we're going to teach boys to respect women, and it's like the boys are there going.
01:07:16.000Because that's their frame of reference.
01:07:17.000It's like their natural frame of reference.
01:07:19.000So when we're talking about the divide about men and women coming together and having some things in common right now, I think one of the reasons why we're so separated in the sexes right now is because we fundamentally don't know how to organize our own disseparate tribes right now.
01:07:36.000That's why you see more women gravitating towards liberal, woaxy, you know, side of the political spectrum.
01:09:12.000But right-wing thought is inherently, yeah, it's inherently hierarchical.
01:09:16.000But something really interesting you see with sort of the female-coded sort of ideology is that they simultaneously seek egalitarianism for egalitarianism's sake, but they also have a massive outgroup preference.
01:09:28.000So what that looks like in practice is total egalitarianism, which is what they're pushing towards in the United States, in combination with mass migration.
01:09:35.000So you basically create these massive social programs.
01:09:37.000This is all across the West, massive social programs, but you also flood the country with people from foreigners so then they can take advantage of those programs that were intended to sort of level out society.
01:10:06.000That's why you're seeing the men gravitate towards right-wing thought.
01:10:08.000The women gravitate towards left-wing thought is because like Rolo talked about is it's just the psyche.
01:10:12.000I mean, when we're looking at like, you know, natural like sexual dimorphism, like when men are, you know, men bear a greater risk, going out and doing the hunting, going out and doing the fighting, going out and, you know, protecting the tribe.
01:10:22.000I'm going to do something I've only ever done one at a time.
01:10:25.000I'm going to take a phone call right now.
01:11:18.000Well, you know, I tell you what's funny is I've heard this repeated by people recently who I have probably been listening to my show for a while.
01:11:28.000But whenever I talk about this, it's usually talking about how responsibility without authority is slavery, right?
01:11:35.000What we don't do is we don't talk about the reverse of that, which is 100% authority without any responsibility is tyranny.
01:11:43.000So when you look at those two things, that's the definition of slavery versus tyranny.
01:11:48.000And then I wrote about this in a couple of essays on my sub stack, by the way, where I have sort of defined what the difference is between gynocentrism and androcentrism versus matriarchy and patriarchy, right?
01:12:02.000So right now, you hear everybody talking about how everything is gynocentric right now, where everything is, it's based on a female correct way of interpreting the human experience, right?
01:12:13.000Whether that's political, whether that's pop culture, whether that's religion, whether it doesn't matter what the context is.
01:12:18.000It's just the correct way to experience life is to experience it as a woman.
01:12:22.000And for men to do anything masculine at this point, and I mean this in the terms of conventionally masculine.
01:12:29.000I don't use the term traditional masculinity very often because lots of people have different traditions, right?
01:12:34.000But from a conventionally masculine perspective, if you look at patriarchy, patriarchy is a far more balanced way of organizing society than gynocentrism or androcentrism for that matter.
01:12:45.000Because what gynocentrism is and androcentrism is, is there are forms of tyranny, meaning that in androcentrism, let's say, for example, men have all the authority and 0% responsibility.
01:12:57.000And that's like in the handmaiden's tale, you know, like Gilead, where it's all the women are just forced into pregnancies and stuff like that.
01:13:04.000And then we have gynocentrism, which is the reverse of that.
01:13:07.000And then you've got patriarchy, which puts power and authority in men's hands, but they still have responsibility to their families and their wives and their kids.
01:13:18.000But they are given the authority to affect those responsibilities.
01:13:23.000And that's where I think a lot of traditional conservative thought really kind of fails right now.
01:13:28.000Because until they can acknowledge the fact that if you want men to be more responsible and man up and take bootstraps, bootstraps, bootstraps, you want them to be more responsible, you're not going to solve the world's problems or solve the gender issues with just adding more and more responsibility on there and not giving these guys the authority to affect that responsibility in the first place.
01:13:53.000Until traditional conservatives can accept that, then we're just going to keep having this conversation over and over and over again.
01:15:35.000Let me tell you on Twitter, man, they were Johnny on the spot with us too, because as soon as they saw Myron waiting by this escalator, like waiting to get in, like they were denying him entry to TPUSA.
01:15:46.000And so I text Myron and I said, dude, they're saying that you can't get in.
01:16:24.000We were talking about, you know what's really, really sad?
01:16:28.000We were discussing having a Timcast party in Phoenix, Arizona for the end of the year, because for the past three years, our last show of the year was on stage with this massive audience.
01:16:37.000Ian falls off the stage the first year.
01:16:45.000So what would have been more and more pop-ups surrounding the event and creating this massive festival, I think is likely just going to start shrinking and kicking people out.
01:17:10.000Because at the last one, they had an all-array on there.
01:17:12.000I'm just wondering who the reformed porn star is going to be as a guest speaker for this one.
01:17:19.000I guess there's only so you can only be so cool if you're not into the arts.
01:17:22.000Without the arts, it's hard to actually be cool.
01:17:26.000It's a very, seems like it's a very political spectacle.
01:17:30.000Well, I mean, again, like the it will be such a loss if this turns into the right trying to exclude people because they don't like an opinion that they have.
01:17:45.000You know, that's why the Democrat Party has such a low approval rating.
01:17:49.000They took people that were considered cool, like Joe Rogan, and because he was just a normal guy that was completely comfortable voting Democrat.
01:18:00.000And then they say, well, why don't we have any guys?
01:18:02.000Well, it's because you got rid of them all.
01:18:04.000And to the point that you were making, the amount of influence by the feminist kind of feminist intersectionals in the Democrat Party by trying to make sure that everybody is, that nobody steps on anyone's toes, that nobody says anything that someone else doesn't like.
01:18:25.000They've managed to run out basically all of the young men.
01:18:28.000They've been telling young men, you're evil, you're the problem in America.
01:18:32.000And there isn't anybody that's actually hitting the brakes in the Democrat Party.
01:18:37.000Maybe there are people that are considered Democrats or what have you or Democrat mouthpieces in the commenter space, but nobody in political office.
01:18:46.000I was going to say, I would think that the people of the TPUSA would be welcoming Myron Gaines with open arms there because what was it?
01:18:54.000Camela Harris in her latest book, her biography or whatever it was on the election, mentions by name, the reason why she lost the election was Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines.
01:19:52.000They're talking to everyone else in the manosphere at this point.
01:19:57.000Joe Rogan wasn't even a factor back then.
01:20:00.000And the fact that they would even use Joe Rogan or Theo Vaughan or Jordan Peterson as sort of examples of guys who are sort of in the manosphere who would, like, going on, you know, Rogan, Rogan openly hates the red pill, openly hates the manosphere.
01:20:16.000Even Jordan Peterson, you know, despises the manosphere.
01:20:20.000But they're using them because they're just the most obvious household names that they can find.
01:20:24.000But there's a lot more people out there than Joe.
01:20:26.000I mean, if you think the red pill begins and ends with Andrew Tate, I got news for you.
01:20:31.000apparently there's something crazy happening and I don't know exactly just why but one of the he said it wasn't a shooting No, no, no, no.
01:20:45.000Some people are claiming it's because he's black, which is silly.
01:21:27.000We've had instances where we've done shows and then someone shows up and one guy working the door doesn't know this guy's not allowed in or something and it happens.
01:21:34.000And then they had to walk it back because it was making them look really bad.
01:21:37.000I think Amfest is like I already said this.
01:23:27.000No, I mean, I just, I think it's silly, and I think that it's a problem for the right.
01:23:32.000You know, the Republicans are in a, or at least the right is in a position to have, you know, significant influence on the culture and not just on the culture, but also on policy.
01:23:43.000And if you can't settle these kind of disagreements without starting to excommunicate people and saying you're not allowed here, you're going to turn a bunch of voters off, right?
01:23:55.000If there's a guy, young guys out there that are like, oh, I like Andrew Tate or I like Nick Fuentes, they make me laugh.
01:24:01.000I don't agree with all this stuff they say, but it's funny and I like them.
01:24:04.000And then they hear that these people are not welcome.
01:24:07.000They're going to say, well, that means that I'm welcome.
01:24:09.000But just name for me one conservative that speaks masculinity to young men.
01:25:21.000But people view these things beyond aesthetics.
01:25:23.000They view things as like actually accumulating power, accumulating wealth, accumulating influence.
01:25:26.000And Donald Trump is that's why he's so popular with young men.
01:25:29.000That's why he was like gets some of that for sure.
01:25:31.000I can tell you exactly why conservatism has a problem with really getting to that appeal, having that spokesperson that is not an Andrew Tate.
01:25:43.000It's because you end up at the same place that feminism comes around.
01:25:47.000And I get this all the time because people want to tell me that the red pill is just the flip side of feminism.
01:25:53.000I'm like, no, actually, that's traditional conservatism because it winds up in the same place.
01:25:58.000It is man up, get a job, get out of your, you know, everything that Andrew Tate says, I could go do all this great stuff, but then take it all, go get married, have kids, and do whatever your wife says.
01:26:11.000And if you look at the guys who are sort of emblematic of like the stand-up guy, the traditional conservative husband and father, which Charlie Kirk ostensibly was at that time, he's still serving a female end at the end of all of that.
01:26:28.000So the purpose of becoming a better guy is not to intrinsically do it for yourself, to be, you know, to build yourself up to be a better man just because that's what you want to be.
01:26:39.000It's be a better man because women really need better men.
01:26:43.000So please, we need to solve women's problems by you becoming a better man, right?
01:26:47.000Which is exactly the same result or the same end point that you end up with when it comes to feminism, which is do all this stuff.
01:26:56.000We still want men to, we want men to man down, but we want them to man up when we need them to man up because it's all for our own benefit.
01:27:02.000So when the red pill comes in and we kind of exist in this kind of like in between, it's really weird in between area between those two.
01:27:11.000People think that we're intrinsically misogynist or whatever.
01:27:15.000All we're doing is we're just offering information and education so that you can protect yourself and make better decisions for yourself to say, this is what I want.
01:27:24.000It's not about trying to be an ideology or a philosophy or a cult or religion or a set of practices or anything.
01:27:33.000Fundamentally at its core, the red pill is just about educating people and putting that data out there.
01:27:40.000The problem that everybody has is that when you give people facts, you have to tell them how to feel about it.
01:27:46.000You can't give them facts without telling them how to feel about it because if you don't, they will hate you for that or they will infer that the reason you're telling me this data and these facts right now is because you want me to believe a certain thing.
01:27:58.000Or are you on my team or are you on their team?
01:28:02.000And that's really what they're trying to suss out the whole time when you're just throwing out facts and figures right there and allowing them to make their own decisions based on what those are.
01:28:12.000Tate and I were talking about this a little bit today.
01:28:13.000Like at the end of the day, even people on the right that think that they analyze things and they make the decision that's best based on thought and logic and reason and stuff, you're still, as a human being, you're still making an emotional decision, right?
01:28:29.000This is because it's what you think will provide you with the best emotional outcomes.
01:28:39.000How effective that game is is really what is what a lot of people, you go and you ask a 10-year-old kid, like, you know, how do you go and get a girlfriend, Johnny?
01:28:48.000That kid probably has a pretty well thought out way to go.
01:28:50.000You be your friend and you do this and you do that.
01:28:52.000He probably figured out how effective that is.
01:28:54.000Now, if you take that and you extrapolate that into like ideology and you add religion or political stripe or what are you going to do for a living, those kinds of questions right there, it really comes down to what are best practices.
01:29:07.000So when people come at me and they say, well, you know, really, it's all these black pill doomers.
01:29:12.000It's MGTOW, you know, men going their own way, or it's the white pill, it's the black pill, it's this pill, that's that pill, whatever.
01:30:14.000Yeah, it's just like he realizes that everything is reduced down to aesthetics, really.
01:30:18.000So that's the presupposition he accepts.
01:30:20.000And so therefore, if you looks max, if you maximize your looks and you'll achieve whatever you want in life, because that's just applying a reading to women or to life in general.
01:30:28.000Again, everything just reduces down to like mathematical formats.
01:30:31.000Whenever I see clavicular, it's like, I can just sort of see the chubby kid underneath the mask.
01:30:38.000His look is not congruent with how he speaks and how he presents and how he telegraphs his game, I guess, for lack of a better term, but how he projects his personality.
01:30:48.000He's kind of like the fat kid who lost a lot of weight and still thinks he's a fat kid.
01:30:54.000And he's quite come to grips with the fact that he's not that good.
01:30:58.000Yeah, and so he's still operating, like his social skills are still operating from the perspective of I'm a fat kid and these girls are going to reject me anyways, but they're not.
01:31:05.000They're actually giving him the time of day and he doesn't know what to do about it.
01:31:08.000I was thinking about the normally 30, 40 years ago before the internet, someone's blackpilled, they're kind of like, and they complain a lot, and they just don't have friends.
01:31:16.000And then they get isolated, people don't want to be around them, and then they go away, and maybe you never see them again.
01:31:20.000But now with internet video, they can make videos and get a following.
01:31:40.000It needs to be addressed because free speech, I can't tell you to stop.
01:31:45.000And if you're getting money for doing it, because all it takes is ad revenue based on how many people all of that stuff.
01:31:50.000I'm going to tell you this right now: I agree with you 100%.
01:31:54.000I also think that a lot of the stereotypes and a lot of the caricatures of these guys end up getting overblown or the things that are sort of attributed to the red pill are overblown because we have so many damn bots these days.
01:32:13.000We have so much, you know, like the best thing, I was just going to say this, the best thing that Elon Musk ever did with Twitter is give you the ability to figure out the country of origin of that profile.
01:33:14.000So you think the nihilism bots are contributing to the black pillars?
01:33:18.000Okay, so I think that the incentive for them is just basically money, right?
01:33:23.000I mean, what's going to get the most eyes on the screen?
01:33:26.000What's going to cause the most indignation?
01:33:28.000It's going to be open-ended questions, and it's usually going to be something that reinforces a pre-existing belief, and particularly about women.
01:34:20.000In the spring of 16, he tried to up in Breitbart.
01:34:24.000Walked off the job, made a big deal about some incident in Mar-a-Lago with Corey Lewandowski.
01:34:29.000He tried to turn it to Ted Cruz from Donald Trump because he hated Donald Trump.
01:34:35.000In the general election, he barely supported Donald Trump.
01:34:38.000The first sign of when President Trump gets sent back to Mar-a-Lago, the very first individual that jumped on the Ron DeSantis train, the Israel first train, was Ben Shapiro.
01:34:51.000And those are the darkest days we had.
01:38:29.000What I want to see is Ben Shapiro on stage tomorrow, getting on, and then all of a sudden the mic drops, the fucking fireworks come off, and Bannon walks on stage like it is WWE, and everyone's like, whoa!
01:38:42.000He's got to do the strut like Mex McMahon.
01:39:02.000If it was actually like that, it's funny you guys compare all this to professional wrestling because it's like a lot of the times when I see this kind of infighting happening.
01:39:10.000Now, this happens in the sphere all the time.
01:39:12.000It happens politically, whatever the niche happens to be.
01:39:15.000But these guys, I'm meant to ask you this, Tim, is do you think that these guys are doing this and they're agitating like this?
01:39:21.000Like, you could tell them, hey, guys, go up there, be nice.
01:39:23.000Have it, you know, we need to form units.
01:40:04.000But if Ben went up there and said, with all due respect to Ben Shapiro, I don't, if all he did was say, guys, I want to talk to you about the future of this country, the midterm elections, but I will address what Ben Shapiro said.
01:40:14.000If he simply said, I don't appreciate the stage drama at an event like this, we're talking about the future of this country.
01:40:19.000And then the member of Charlie Kirk, it shouldn't be this way.
01:40:21.000So Ben, please, let's keep it respectful.
01:40:24.000Moving on, people have been like, then they would have been like, I got it.
01:40:28.000But then he had at least addressed the gorilla in the exactly.
01:40:32.000While saying, let's not stoop to that level and not actually insulting Ben, just saying, let's keep it civil and try and focus on what we can win together.
01:40:39.000Instead, this is turning into just more partisan bickering where the right is now two different factions.
01:40:44.000You know, Jenk Uger talks about, he's like, can we just come together with some Republicans on the issues we want to get done and get them done?
01:40:51.000Because if the left and the right agree that healthcare is too expensive, can we just forget everything else?
01:40:55.000Forget the trans kid stuff, the tax policy, whatever.
01:40:57.000Let's just look at the healthcare thing, right?
01:41:06.000That's kind of what the mega coalition was.
01:41:09.000A lot of people disagreed on all these things.
01:41:11.000There's moderate, you know, I don't think abortion should be completely banned to the we should ban it completely, but we're going to work together because the left is so insane.
01:45:14.000So if babies are jaundiced, I think I'm going to get this wrong about it.
01:45:17.000They have too much bilirubin in their blood.
01:45:19.000The blue light, the wavelength of light itself, breaks it down.
01:45:23.000And so if their livers aren't strong enough to get it out of their system, the blue light breaks it down and then their body takes care of the rest.
01:45:28.000So they literally put a blindfold on the baby and sit it under a blue light for like five hours.
01:45:57.000Humans would wake up, crack a dawn with the red light beaming on them, and they'd be standing proud with their junk right up in there and it would cook.
01:48:26.000And there's a bunch of Irish protesters outside picketing holding up signs saying potato, which stands for people organizing together against true oppression.
01:48:34.000And they were arguing that the Irish are the true oppressed people and that white privilege oppresses them.
01:50:01.000They said, based on the statements that were made, the threats that were made, this appears to be credible based on previous actions from certain crazed individuals.
01:50:10.000So we said, okay, then you get someone circling our property, then they shoot at it.
01:50:13.000So we're like, okay, we're not going to be retarded and just sit here and wait for someone to kick the door in with an AR instead opening fire on my staff, my guests, or whatever it is.
01:50:22.000So we're talking to Rumble and we're basically saying, like, how do we build something bigger?
01:50:26.000The good news is this could actually end up being closed door open window and that we build something tremendously massive with Rumble.
01:51:36.000That's I made the point on the show yesterday is like I was laying out the play from the neocons to sort of dig back up the old play where they would just define anyone to the right of Ted Cruz's alt-right.
01:51:45.000As I think that as you can see, they're doing the same thing where anyone to the right of Ted Cruz is now a Groyper, which is ironic because Nick Funtas himself hates JD Vance.
01:51:53.000He just wants to also derail the Vance campaign.
01:51:56.000So you're seeing both the actual Groypers and indeed the neocons both trying to derail a Vance 28 campaign.
01:52:02.000But the neocons are trying to poison the well for Vance by labeling, again, everyone to the right of Ted Cruz as a Groyper for no reason.
01:53:36.000Oh, it's a guy that's like he's specialized in.
01:53:38.000My only concern is like sooner or later, one of these guys are going to get the wrong dude.
01:53:42.000Yeah, and there's also like a debate to be had about like half of these guys are clearly just like people with like Down syndrome and stuff like that.
01:53:49.000So there's no, it's like, maybe they're just using this as an excuse to beat like people with disabilities.
01:54:08.000I'm torn because I'm concerned about vigilantism in that there have already been a few stories where they've insinuated that they got the wrong guy.
01:54:17.000Like somebody was in a similar area that looked kind of like the person.
01:54:21.000Because from online photos, you're never too sure.
01:54:24.000It's rough because I don't care because I like these videos.
01:54:53.000I mean, it's actually so close to the argument because they say, oh, you know, by them not affirming my identity, that's actually doing violence to me.
01:55:01.000So I'm preventing violence, which is just vigilantism.
01:55:04.000That's actually a really good point to describe to people this feeling.
01:55:09.000Say, you know how you feel when you watch one of those videos where a pedophile gets punched in the face and everyone's going to be like, yeah, I enjoy those videos.
01:55:17.000That's how the left feels watching conservatives get punched in the face.
02:00:12.000Because it's the last show of the year, I want to do it.
02:00:16.000So the legend, which I'll probably get wrong, but I'm going to try my best, is in Wales.
02:00:21.000And it's a story of a Welsh prince who went about his daily dealings, as he does, leaving his son, his young son, in the care of his trusty hound, Gellert.
02:00:31.000And as he went about to do his daily tidings of such, you know, errands, maybe a little hunt, he returns home to find that the door is open to his home.
02:00:42.000And when he enters, panicked, he sees his furniture flipped about.
02:00:48.000He sees where his son was in the crib.
02:00:54.000He then sees his faithful hound, Gellert, walk up to him, blood dripping from his mouth.
02:00:58.000And Prince Whelan, angry that Gellert, his faithful hunt, betrayed him and slain, slew his only son, drew his sword and thrust it into the side of Gellert, who then let out a dying whelp and collapsed.
02:01:13.000The whelp of which awoke Whalen's child.
02:01:17.000He hears the cry and he runs over and tosses the crip aside, and he finds his son safe next to the wolf that Gellert had slain to save his child.
02:01:28.000And they say from that moment on, Prince Whelan never smiled again.
02:01:56.000But the opposite of that, the virtue is patience.
02:01:59.000It's like when you're angry, you know, if you let things settle and kind of figure out why, maybe you don't have to resort to killing your dog.
02:02:07.000All right, we got one more chat here, and it's from Norbizy.
02:02:10.000Myron Gaines is one of the biggest reasons Harris is not president.
02:02:13.000They should be welcoming him at every event.
02:02:16.000Unfortunately, too much Israelis are involved in involved, which Myron exposes.
02:03:38.000But regardless, maybe you don't want to join the community.
02:03:40.000Your membership just makes all this possible.
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