On this week's episode of The Timestamps, we discuss the controversy surrounding Joe Rogan's comments about Robert Kennedy Jr. and the reaction from the media, the Democratic primary candidates, and much, much more!
00:01:02.000He did say he was the only one who made sense, so many people saw it as an unofficial endorsement.
00:01:06.000And Donald Trump personally responded on Truth Social, saying that Joe Rogan, I wonder how much booze he's going to get the next time he shows up to UFC.
00:01:15.000Many of the most diehard Trump supporters began insulting and attacking Joe Rogan.
00:01:19.000Then I got involved and said, don't make enemies of friends, which turned into this whole thing where I said, okay, fine, I'll vote for RFK Jr.
00:02:46.000I'm going to call out people who are lying or who are causing damage because I think we need to win this one.
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00:03:06.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Caitlin Sinclair.
00:03:31.000So I just joined the Turning Point team with Charlie Kirk and the folks over there in Phoenix, so really excited to be in this movement in a completely different capacity.
00:03:40.000I've been a reporter for One America News for the past five years.
00:03:44.000We've taken on the streets of Manhattan, so this is a completely different role, and we are engaging the young generations that really need to be involved in this movement.
00:04:40.000And then there's emergency vehicles outside of the White House, but Joe Biden's not there, so there's not much more to go on for those stories, so there's some breaking news.
00:04:47.000But let's jump to this one from Newsweek.
00:04:50.000MAGA turns on Joe Rogan after praise for RFK Jr.
00:04:57.000They say some of Joe Rogan's fans are not happy he spoke glowingly of independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy while comparing him to other politicians.
00:05:04.000I'd like to pause right there and say, the dudes who are calling him stupid and saying they don't watch his show, I wouldn't call fans.
00:05:21.000He's the only one that doesn't attack people.
00:05:22.000He attacks actions and ideas, but he's much more reasonable and intelligent.
00:05:27.000Kennedy is running as one of four independent candidates.
00:05:30.000Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, we know, we know.
00:05:32.000Rogan on Friday followed up the comments by stating on X-Post that it was not an endorsement, saying, for the record, this isn't an endorsement.
00:07:47.000And so when Joe Rogan says Fauci is bad, when he says Kamala doesn't even make sense because she has no campaign positions, when he says Joe Biden's brain doesn't work, this is one of the ways, if not the only way, some of these people will get exposed to any real truth and maybe ask themselves a question.
00:08:03.000So why would you then attack Joe Rogan It's weird that they just chose now to get mad, because if you've listened to anything else he's said about Trump, he's said I think publicly, I'm not having him on my show, and he's also been very favorable to RFK in the past.
00:08:27.000If Rogan came out in support of Donald Trump today, let's say, and made that public, Cat Turd would have been all over that, saying, you love him.
00:09:33.000He's probably going to be for a Yeah, I thought he was famously weak on two ways.
00:09:37.000I think there are a couple things that conservatives will point out and be like, oh, he does these things right, but there are a lot of things that he does incorrectly.
00:09:44.000I mean, abortion is one of the issues that, you know, especially Christian conservatives don't like him on.
00:09:48.000But, you know, with the Joe Rogan podcast, you mentioned a liberal friend who listened to it.
00:09:52.000I actually was introduced to it by someone who is not political at all.
00:09:55.000And that's what I think one of the biggest flaws in attacking Joe Rogan is.
00:09:58.000There are people who just consume media, who are not that interested in politics, who are living life, totally fine, but who will ultimately probably turn up at the polls this fall.
00:10:08.000And if you're starting to jump down the throat of everyone at all times, you're either going to disincentivize them to partake or you're going to drive them into the arms of whoever they think is less annoying.
00:10:16.000You're going to alienate anyone that's maybe on the fence right now.
00:10:20.000And the entire sentiment that they were attacking Joe Rogan for saying about, oh, how RFK Jr.
00:10:55.000I mean, like, no question, no nonsense truth.
00:10:58.000Like, quite literally, they're like, oh, the Burisma thing's real.
00:11:00.000Do you think if the average person was exposed to the literal truth of things, Joe Biden's Burisma deals, Hunter Biden's deals, Hunter Biden foreign dealings, the Hunter Biden laptop, do you think they would vote for Donald Trump?
00:11:11.000I think their hate of Trump trumps the truth for them.
00:11:15.000I am not saying, I am saying quite literally if they knew the truth.
00:11:20.000I'm not saying if they're rejecting to listen to it.
00:12:24.000I guess where I'm coming from is there's so many people you could show certain things, like actual video, and they still refuse to see that truth.
00:12:31.000Yeah, but that's not knowing the truth if they refuse to watch it.
00:12:33.000You're saying they get it and they are actually digesting that truth and then understanding it.
00:12:39.000I guess my faith in that I think the orange man bad syndrome is still stronger.
00:12:46.000So is there a percentage of people who, when learning the truth, would vote for Donald
00:13:31.000So I think we still stay in this fight.
00:13:33.000I mean, there's no point of going home now, but... I think that you'd likely see, if you took every person in this country, every person of voting age, and they were lined up, and blink!
00:13:43.000In their mind, they knew the actual truth.
00:13:45.000There's no question of watching a video or reading.
00:13:47.000No, they just knew what actually happened.
00:13:49.000Then you'd end up with like 65-70% voting for Trump.
00:14:05.000And so I think you'd get a massive shift.
00:14:08.000The point is, if there is any possibility, That the truth will make someone vote for Donald Trump, then Trump supporters should be praising Joe Rogan, even if it's 2%.
00:14:18.0002% of people upon learning the truth about Fauci, Kamala Harris, and Biden will vote for Donald Trump.
00:14:35.000If you are looking for Joe Rogan to personally convert every inactive voter into someone who is going to vote for your candidate, you're doing it wrong.
00:14:42.000You should be looking to Scott Pressler and saying, how can I register voters?
00:14:45.000What conversations do I need to have to shift the outcome of this election?
00:14:49.000There's a level of, like, emotional response that I just find, like, to be unproductive.
00:14:54.000And, you know, the question about the truth is interesting because, you know, if the voters knew the truth about, let's say, the Burisma scandal, and they all knew, like, what the Biden family had done, maybe they would vote for Donald Trump.
00:15:03.000I tend to think there are never Trumpers who would say, he's too orange and I'll never do it.
00:15:08.000But now we're actually shifting towards would that be enough to make them not vote for Kamala Harris?
00:15:13.000Again, I still think the bigger issue is make them vote at all.
00:15:16.000I think the answer is if people knew it's 100%.
00:15:19.000The reason people hate Trump is because they believe lies from MSNBC and CNN and other garbage.
00:15:24.000But you really need to learn the truth when you're witnessing the truth every day, when you're looking in your wallet, you're looking at your bank account, you're trying to fill up your gas tank.
00:15:30.000But then they turn on MSNBC who says, you look in your wallet, right?
00:17:16.000Myron Gaines was like, I don't know what's worse, that you actually believe this tweet was real or that something about Shmuley, I don't know.
00:17:22.000But like, I actually felt really bad that he thought it was real.
00:17:25.000And so I was like, look, you're a good dude, but I'm not voting for you.
00:17:28.000I was like, is Tim going to be guilt-tripped now into going through with his endorsement?
00:17:42.000There's, like, eight tweets of me being like, you're driving people away, stop attacking Joe Rogan, stop attacking Kyle Rittenhouse, and then in response to, like, someone calling me a cuss or a slur or something, I said, okay, I'm voting for RFK Jr.
00:18:04.000And they know it's not true, but they want to say it anyway, because anything that allows them to say, oh, Trump's losing support or whatever, it's how they manipulate this game.
00:18:14.000So actually, we have the tweets here, and I can show you the threads.
00:18:18.000And then there's a... I don't know if I have the other one pulled up on Rogan.
00:18:21.000Tim Pool backtracks on his endorsement.
00:18:29.000Gagin said, I'm so grateful to you, Tim, for your confidence in me, but most of all for your steadfast defense of the Constitution and relentless love for our country.
00:19:02.000I get people who will be like, oh, I love the show, but I just hate this thing Tim is tweeting, and I'll know that you just did it as a troll.
00:19:10.000I don't think people really understand how Twitter works in relationship with the media ecosystem.
00:19:17.000They take everything very seriously, and I can understand that in the sense that it's a very stressful time.
00:19:21.000A lot of people are really concerned about the future, and they're looking to people with influence to help them make sense of it.
00:19:26.000On the other hand, It's not just a series of press releases.
00:21:39.000He should probably in October, drop out of the race, endorse Donald Trump, and Donald Trump should give him a position in the administration.
00:21:53.000Rogan was the staunch advocate for exposing what was happening during those times.
00:21:58.000So it just boggles my mind that we're having conservatives attack him when he still is one of our biggest allies and just a common sense dude.
00:22:27.000We will lose if we keep focusing on the noise.
00:22:30.000At the end of the day, you don't win elections with having celebrities and the Joe Rogans of the world endorsing you anyway.
00:22:35.000You win elections by registering voters, by chasing ballots, by engaging your community.
00:22:41.000So at the end of the day, this is all noise, and I think it's so heavily calculated.
00:22:45.000They want us to fall into these traps.
00:22:47.000They want to bait Donald Trump into saying or tweeting or posting on Truth Social some outrageous attack, right?
00:22:54.000So I think what Vivek always says is we need to focus on the vision, focus on the policies, because guess who's not focusing on policies over there?
00:23:07.000It was on X, but it was also on Instagram, where he's talking about... I think he was talking about, like, tampon Tim stuff and these weird names.
00:23:13.000And he's like, he was basically saying this is stupid.
00:23:52.000And the diehard Trump supporters who are like, if Kyle Rittenhouse says a bad word of Trump, we are going to go at him and destroy him.
00:23:58.000If Joe Rogan, we're going to insult him and call him stupid.
00:24:00.000And none of these things are effective strategies.
00:24:02.000It's become the MAGA Olympics, and it's a demoralization campaign to people who tune into it, you know, because they become struggle sessions.
00:24:27.000They're going to go to every moderate who's not really political and say, do you see how Trump is attacking Joe Rogan?
00:24:33.000Why would you do that to the largest podcaster in the world, the most successful famous Normie guy, who is telling the truth about all of these things?
00:24:42.000It gives Trump— He calls out the lies.
00:24:44.000And the thing is, Democrats are a very negative party in terms of messaging, just in my observation, right?
00:24:50.000They're pretty good about keeping their infighting behind closed doors.
00:24:53.000It doesn't always work, but for the most part, they're pretty good about demanding compliance.
00:24:57.000Everyone votes the same way, whatever, when you get to Congress.
00:25:01.000The best part of Trump's campaign to me, especially in sort of late 2023 and through the beginning of this year, was how positive it was in contrast to how negative Joe Biden's campaign was.
00:25:14.000Joe Biden is always referencing Charlottesville, which got debunked.
00:25:17.000He's always talking about how divided we are.
00:25:19.000He's always warning of political violence.
00:25:21.000Harris has basically picked up the same rhetoric that he's a bad guy and I'm the good guy and here's what's going to happen.
00:25:26.000But when you would see Trump speak, he would talk about, you know, things are tough right now, but they're going to get better and things are turning around.
00:25:33.000And I think that that is something Democrats cannot leverage.
00:25:38.000And to just become this party that fights within itself is a waste of time.
00:25:43.000We're less than 90 days before the election.
00:25:45.000If you can give the American people hope, I think you're in a much better position.
00:25:48.000It's also much more natural messaging.
00:26:16.000I think he, as much as he loves engaging with people and he's a great person, he's the same person you see on stage as he is behind closed doors, but he also wants to be loved also.
00:26:40.000A month ago, this is the same media that was telling us Kamala Harris was so historically unpopular that Joe Biden was going to potentially need to replace her.
00:26:57.000Conservative podcaster predicts Donald Trump headed for election loss.
00:27:00.000Because I tweeted, you know, I think Trump is on track to lose right now.
00:27:05.000There are things that have to turn around.
00:27:06.000The pulling in of Kamala Harris has greatly benefited Democrats, and they've got shadow campaign plans, so we'll see what happens.
00:27:12.000But it is this reaction that we're seeing from Trump-supporting diehards targeting independents, which is going to be a massive net negative for Trump, and I'll tell you why.
00:27:23.000There are a lot of people who vote emotionally.
00:27:25.000I would say the overwhelming majority.
00:28:31.000Kamala Harris is beating Donald Trump 50.4 to 48.1.
00:28:36.000So in the betting odds with BetOnline, Betfair, Bovada, Bwin, Polymarket, Predicted, and Smarkets, Kamala Harris is ahead in I think all of them.
00:28:46.000She's tied on Bwin and Bovada and she's winning every other one.
00:28:50.000The one thing I can give Trump Is he's got 1.4% in the battleground states, which is tremendous, and that's where it really matters.
00:29:25.000And the Democrat blue guy says, why are you siding with the bad guys?
00:29:28.000This was made, I think this is years old, to exemplify people like Colin Wright and Elon Musk finding themselves in alliance with Republicans and Trump supporters because the Democrats had lost their minds.
00:29:41.000For what reason would Donald Trump's most ardent supporters decide to do the opposite and push people back to the Democrats?
00:29:49.000This is the exact This meme exemplifies why so many people didn't want to be Democrat anymore.
00:29:55.000So the response is, screw you, you're stupid, and F you anyway?
00:30:03.000They could add another frame and push him back, and then another frame of the person just... Yeah, put Cat Turd's face on the guy.
00:30:09.000Just invert it, make the blue guy red, and then put Cat Turd's face on it, shoving him back to the Democrats.
00:30:16.000This is the kind of stuff, attacking Joe Rogan, that results in people who may have been like, I guess I'll vote for Trump, to go, I'm not voting for any of these crackpots.
00:30:29.000That's what I think the biggest problem for, you know, both politicians is right now that have people who are saying, I don't like either option.
00:30:36.000And the voter looks a little bit different for a conservative versus Harris.
00:30:41.000Harris has an issue because, you know, especially very pro-Palestine voters, those who are, you know, feel really strongly that Joe Biden has mishandled that issue.
00:30:50.000They want her to call for an absolute ceasefire, right?
00:31:14.000Either way, if there are voters on the left that sit out for those reasons, the voters on the right will sit out because they're like, I don't know.
00:31:43.000And Trump was doing a really good job, has always been authentic, but he was doing a really good job at focusing solely on the issues, how he's going to help your average American.
00:31:51.000Like we were talking about, your average American doesn't even know how to interpret tweets.
00:31:55.000or interpret things that we're posting on X.
00:31:57.000So they definitely don't care about the back and forth and what celebrities are saying, right?
00:32:01.000But they care how much they're paying for groceries.
00:32:04.000And that's, so I think with some of this, someone quoted a spokesperson from Trump campaign
00:32:09.000who had said basically it's a sugar high.
00:32:10.000That's why there's sort of this honeymoon stage.
00:32:12.000There's such a big relief that Joe Biden is gone and whatever else, and some of this will simmer down.
00:32:17.000But the other thing is, I think that the Trump campaign really needs to regain the news cycle.
00:32:20.000They are always in the defensive position because Kamala announced her campaign and then she picked her VP and, like, she is sort of setting the cycle and they're responding.
00:32:28.000And once they're able to pivot back to an offensive position, I think they'll be better off.
00:32:33.000His prediction that by the fall, Joe Biden resigns from the presidency.
00:32:37.000Kamala Harris gets a second honeymoon phase as president of the United States.
00:32:43.000This spikes all of Trump's merchandise, which says 47.
00:33:52.000Joe Rogan has the largest podcast Likely the largest, or one of the largest in the world, where he speaks to people of all different political backgrounds, and you have the opportunity to make friends with him.
00:34:05.000So the question then is, why would you want to put that at risk?
00:34:09.000And it's fine to criticize Joe Rogan, but when he weakly says he likes RFK Jr., why attack him, call him a dumb blonde, insult him, say his show's not good?
00:34:35.000I don't align—I'm not a conservative.
00:34:38.000And it's funny when Newsweek calls me a conservative, because it shows you that there's no center, because the media is only far left.
00:34:43.000And anybody who doesn't align with the far left must be a conservative, which I'm not.
00:34:46.000You're a MAGA podcaster, what do you mean?
00:34:48.000Sure, I like Trump, I'm gonna vote for Trump, but it's only because of the truth.
00:34:52.000And the truth is the media lied left and right about everything Trump has done, they smear him and manipulate him, and his policies are actually pretty good.
00:34:58.000I even got Dave Smith to recognize some of his policies are pretty good, and he agreed with me, though he disagreed on a lot of other things.
00:35:05.000We want middle-of-the-road people who aren't Trump's hardcore base, who are going to vote for him no matter what, to say, OK, I'll vote for Donald Trump.
00:35:13.000Are you going to accomplish that by having a character called Cat Turd call Joe Rogan a dumb blonde?
00:35:27.000I just think insulting people is going to cost you votes and not gain you votes.
00:35:34.000And in response to Kyle Rittenhouse, People said, Kyle, we love you, we defended you, we supported you.
00:35:40.000Let's do a conversation, make a podcast about this so we can convince all the people that Trump is the right choice.
00:35:45.000Then you would have had Kyle Rittenhouse with 2 million followers on with one of Trump's campaign members on a show, any show, where Trump's going to have a lawyer or Trump Jr.
00:35:54.000or someone saying, trust us, we're going to do all the things you want to do.
00:35:58.000And then it would have been a massive net positive.
00:36:02.000The left immediately picks up all the attacks on Kyle Rittenhouse and says, Trump supporters are an occult, and they're weird, and they're mean to people.
00:36:08.000And then regular people who don't follow go, wow, they were mean to people.
00:36:15.000You can hate Joe Rogan, you can hate Kyle Rittenhouse, you can call him whatever you want to call him, but I tell you this, you'll lose votes from doing it.
00:36:20.000I think the tampon thing, I mean, it's funny, but it's an obvious retaliation to the couch and van stuff.
00:36:58.000Like, when people hear, oh, he's tamponting, he put, you know, tampons in public schools, there are some people who will say, like, that's good.
00:37:05.000There are young girls who this is a big distraction.
00:37:35.000I would say, however, for a lot of people, that that comes off as not true.
00:37:39.000And this has probably happened to you, I'd imagine, where you say, you do know this guy's in favor of, you know, insert cause, and they go, that's not true.
00:37:59.000What does that mean as a meme to a voter who's unsure?
00:38:04.000And a lot of people are like, if you're not sure now, then you know, oh, you're crazy or whatever.
00:38:09.000They have panels, they have these focus groups all the time where there are people being like, I don't know, I don't follow the news.
00:38:16.000And if you go to one of these guys and he's just like a regular, he works all day, he's a carpenter, he's gonna be like, I don't really follow the news.
00:38:23.000I like what Trump says sometimes, but he's kind of mean.
00:38:25.000And then you said to him, what does tampon Tim mean to you?
00:39:21.000The weird thing, which was the same deplorable tactic, the ultra ultra MAGA, as if that's an insult to anyone, right?
00:39:29.000What if the Trump campaign just didn't even respond?
00:39:31.000What if we just stuck to the memes that basically show someone trying to fill up their gas tank or the videos that show you reordering your groceries?
00:39:40.000Or she announces Waltz and he just tweets, who?
00:39:43.000There are so many simple things that we could do.
00:40:34.000And these are the exact people you don't want to alienate.
00:40:36.000We just had a viral clip of Joe Rogan saying, Kamala Harris was the least popular vice president in history, and then he goes like this, and in a moment, with his hands, he's like, everyone just loves her and she's the greatest savior of the Democratic Party.
00:40:48.000The response should have immediately been, wow, Joe, he's so smart.
00:40:52.000Man, watching him, you guys are being real smart too.
00:40:56.000And then the regular people are going to be like, yeah, Joe was ragging on Kamala, that's for sure.
00:41:00.000What do you think these people are going to do?
00:41:02.000If Joe is throwing you Like, he's throwing you these layups, and then you don't take the opportunity and you swat them away?
00:41:12.000When someone asked me about Kamala a few weeks ago, I sent him a Jorokin clip because it was the one where he has the guest on talking about her refusing to give DNA evidence to get a free guy out of jail.
00:41:21.000I'm like, well here's a good example of why she's evil.
00:41:24.000You know, like, there's things that he said that you could use to help build your case against her.
00:41:29.000There's a ton out there that he's said.
00:41:32.000I don't know why we're not digging into that.
00:41:35.000I think because a lot of it is Twitter's been monetized and people get more off of the hate and doing these little phrases.
00:41:42.000I think that some of the Trump ultra diehards are really scared Trump's going to lose.
00:41:47.000Yeah, I think they actually know some of these polls are correct.
00:41:51.000I think they're aware this polling is real, and they're sitting there kind of scared.
00:41:57.000Maybe they're worried some of them might be, but I think Trump holding a press conference and addressing this specifically, talking about Kamala Harris shows, internally they have concerns about Kamala running a basement campaign and generating tons of support from celebrities, getting bumped in the polls and the betting markets, prediction markets.
00:42:16.000Trump's campaign is concerned about this.
00:42:17.000Like you said, Hannah Clare, they're trying to get the news cycle back and having a hard time.
00:42:21.000It's hard because, you know, it's going to take something that is really disruptive, like I mean, I can't even think of anything, and I don't want to be too doom and gloom, but, you know, if there were suddenly a natural disaster or something that everyone, both sides, have to say, we're putting down whatever we're working on.
00:42:38.000But don't you think that should have been the assassination?
00:42:54.000It was just hit after hit after hit, which is like the only thing that I think ultimately tips the scales to get Joe Biden to drop out.
00:43:02.000And that was how they, you know, regain the news cycles.
00:43:04.000But they're, like you pointed out earlier, they've got Kamala's in, we've got our multi-state tour right now where they're saying nothing, and then they announce Walz, and then we go to DNC, and then they have sort of ended their automatic hold on the news cycle.
00:43:19.000These major events that basically establish a campaign have ended for both teams.
00:43:24.000And that's when it comes back to policy.
00:43:52.000Notably, under Executive 35, Young can direct state election officials to ensure that only paper ballots are used in Virginia and are retained for 22 months after each election.
00:44:00.000Additionally, the Commissioner of the Department of Elections is required to ensure there is a documented chain of custody for paper ballots and a daily reconciliation process during early voting.
00:44:08.000During the early voting period on Election Day, ballots must be reconciled against the number of voters checked into the polling location and against the number of ballots that were mailed to voters.
00:44:15.000The state is also prohibited from sending out an absentee ballot unless it has been requested by a registered voter before being mailed.
00:44:22.000Completed absentee ballots may not be counted until the last four digits of the voter's social security number and year of birth on the envelope are matched to the voter's record file.
00:44:29.000How much do you want to bet Virginia goes heavy red?
00:44:57.000But, even outside of that, nursing homes.
00:45:00.000Famously, Democrats going to nursing homes, and these elderly people who are just like, I don't know what you're talking about, and they're like, just fill it out, just fill it out.
00:45:06.000James O'Keefe had the video of all this stuff.
00:45:09.000With this policy, should this succeed in the courts?
00:45:14.000Because I bet Democrats are going to sue him to oblivion.
00:45:17.000But he's playing for DHS over here, you know why?
00:45:20.000What he's doing at the executive level with the elections, Republicans challenged Democrats doing the same thing in 2020, and the court said no standing.
00:45:27.000Let's see if the courts in Virginia say the same thing.
00:46:51.000I think as people get older, the younger generations are polarized all the same.
00:46:55.000And I've said this time and time again, the only reason the country isn't completely ripped to shreds is because Gen Xers, Boomers, and Silent Generation have lower rates of polarization.
00:47:04.000Once the silent generation ages out, passes on, then you're going to have the next generation moving in.
00:47:08.000Polarization will become more pronounced.
00:47:10.000By the time it's when Gen Xers are in their 70s, Millennials are going to be in their 50s and 60s.
00:47:16.000You are going to have hyper bipartisanship.
00:47:19.000Geographic country will be absolutely split and irreparably.
00:47:23.000Like, you literally have people who want to sterilize and chop off kids' junk, OK?
00:47:28.000There's no reconciling the political values between these people.
00:47:34.000I was just going to say, I think there is a way to have these conversations, though.
00:47:37.000I think there's a way to have these hard conversations and come to some common sense, common ground, because believe it or not, we actually would agree on most of these issues.
00:47:47.000But you have the extremists, I think, that are making the most noise.
00:47:50.000What's hard though, I have two kids, third on the way, maybe any minute now.
00:47:55.000So I might run out of here, but we'll see.
00:47:57.000That's why I watch your show every night in August so we have to see you run out.
00:48:00.000When you meet other parents who believe in the mutilation stuff and giving your kids all these things.
00:48:36.000The immediate future with the parents now, you know, they are raising other kids who are going to grow up to be... Who knows how they're going to vote, but they're legitimately... Immediate future?
00:49:39.000And, you know, there's a bigger conversation.
00:49:41.000Not to mention that people are now starting to say, like, we should research marijuana and see what its effects are for, you know, potential treatment.
00:49:47.000I think some of these cultural changes that are actually happening on both sides, there are some issues that stop being like, you're for this and we're against it.
00:49:54.000There are some that actually these generations have in common.
00:49:56.000Well, you guys might disagree, but I think one of those issues is actually abortion.
00:50:01.000I might get canceled for saying this, but I have a lot of girlfriends in New York, contemporaries, peers, colleagues that are female, and they have felt for so long like we are being a race.
00:50:12.000We're not allowed to be a conservative.
00:50:14.000We don't belong to either party because of those beliefs.
00:50:17.000But when you're actually paying attention to Donald Trump's policy and how moderate he really is on abortion, a lot of my girlfriends are pro-choice.
00:50:46.000But there's a coalition of pro-life Democrats who say, why does this have to be a plank in our central platform?
00:50:54.000It's interesting because there are people who do not line up on either issue.
00:50:57.000The other one that I'm thinking about is the environment.
00:51:00.000The left is always saying the environment is our issue, but have you ever talked to a farmer?
00:51:04.000They have a lot at stake with the environment.
00:51:07.000I bet that they feel really strongly about it.
00:51:09.000They just don't conclude what you conclude, which is that it needs to be regulated at the federal level and certain things need to happen.
00:51:15.000It was a Republican that gave us the national parks, the state parks already, and Nixon did EPA, which I don't agree with, but the left loves, you know?
00:51:22.000Right, but for some reason it's always billed as like a left issue.
00:51:25.000Only the lefts are interested in the environment.
00:51:27.000They have a certain bent on how they want to handle the environment, but I don't think that's true.
00:51:31.000I think there are lots of, especially rural Americans, who care very deeply about preserving the natural beauty of this country and the natural resources.
00:53:45.000So if you're only paying more for yourself, like, it's annoying, it's expensive, but you adjust.
00:53:49.000When you're like, no, it's really hurting us every time half of our household doesn't have an income, aka their children, you know, this is tough, we don't like it.
00:53:57.000I think it's just a different mindset that you aren't in unless you're in it.
00:54:03.000Because you have to feed and clothe other people who are fully dependent on you.
00:54:08.000It's also just not part of their future plan, right?
00:54:11.000I have a lot of single friends right now, but we're all worried because that's our future plan.
00:54:16.000First of all, it's how am I going to find a man and all this sea of soyboys out there, so that's number one issue that we're worried about.
00:54:22.000Good name for your book, The Sea of Soyboys.
00:54:24.000Oh, I could definitely write a few novels on that.
00:54:27.000And then number two, how are we eventually going to buy a home?
00:54:32.000When was the last time an entire generation was fearful that they won't be able to buy a home?
00:54:36.000An entire generation coming out with more degrees on paper, but zero life skills and zero chance at the American dream.
00:54:43.000So it's also that they're not looking at the future, and that's why the economy collapsing is not a worry.
00:54:48.000Do you think they were prepared for the future?
00:54:51.000I'm thinking about this because I wrote today about Alabama has this law that's going to affect where there's like 1,800 third graders who might have to repeat the year because they don't reach a certain literacy standard that just got implemented.
00:55:06.000Well, they're trying to do something about it, which I appreciate, you know?
00:55:09.000But one of the things I was reading about when I was writing this was that they have instituted a mandatory personal finance course for High schoolers in Alabama.
00:55:19.000And I think that's interesting, right?
00:55:20.000If you learned about how taxes work, how saving works, what credit card debt can do to you in high school, you would probably react differently.
00:55:28.000So often I hear from my single friends or my friends who are just, you know, married, but they don't have kids yet.
00:55:32.000Like, oh, well, we'll just deal with this later.
00:55:34.000When you have kids, there's kind of no later.
00:55:39.000She would be ecstatic if she knew this is what they were teaching, because they were not teaching this when I was in high school, and I call her every time I need to do my taxes, and I have all these silly math questions, and she's Canadian, so she just doesn't understand the system here.
00:55:58.000I mean, we have different issues that we don't agree on with that side of the family, but the education system here in America, no, I don't think most Americans are educated enough to understand financial planning, let alone what it actually takes to save up enough money to buy a home, buy a car, provide, right?
00:56:40.000It's all meant to brainwash and distract us from what matters, but that's why I have hope right now with this young generation, right?
00:56:46.000I'm a millennial, but this Gen Z generation coming up behind me, Like I was alluding to before, I think they're redefining the answer to that question, what matters?
00:57:11.000Imagine growing up in a household where your parents are literally telling you, you have 12 years to live because the sun, the sky, like with the, I forgot what that movement was called, the sunrise movement.
00:57:21.000They had their children holding a banner that said, we have 12 years to live.
00:58:34.000If anyone out there believes that election interference or the manipulation by the left or any of this election interference is insurmountable, that's just not true.
00:58:46.000And again, what wins elections is involving your community, registering a friend, registering a family member, chasing those ballots, making sure that ballots actually make it to the ballot boxes.
00:58:56.000So I think A lot of this worry is also just a distraction and noise.
00:59:01.000I'm not sure how much we should be focusing on that.
00:59:06.000I'd just like to say that during lockdowns and the riots, Act Blue was managed by Susan Rosenberg and 1,000 Currents.
00:59:13.000Susan Rosenberg is a domestic Marxist terrorist, part of the Weather Underground, who became a professor when she was pardoned on Bill Clinton's last day in office.
00:59:22.000Crazy how that happens to the Weather Underground.
00:59:24.000She helped, you know, because Act Blue was able to use 1,000 Currents' non-tax-exempt status to get these funds.
00:59:33.000So it's a very strange relationship they had, and she's an evil person, that was funding BLM, which was a lot like the Weather Underground, in my opinion.
01:01:32.000I think that there are a lot of people who wanted him to step away a long time ago, said he promised to be a one-term president, and then he was like, just kidding, I'm running again!
01:02:37.000Vivek mentioned that calling her a prosecutor makes her sound good on crime.
01:02:41.000So when people say that she was a prosecutor who kept people in jail, all you're saying is she's tough on crime.
01:02:46.000It's funny, because I'm thinking about it the way I used to think about it when I considered myself liberal in terms of prison reform, and the way she was throwing all these people in jail using the prison, the crime bill that Biden helped write in the 90s, you know?
01:02:57.000No, no, because I'm a nerd watching the same video from 1993 on YouTube when Biden's talking about, you know, these people and she's calling them supervisors.
01:03:03.000We just need to play that clip of Tulsi, like taking her task for this in 2020 over and over and over again.
01:03:18.000If you go on stage and say she was locking up criminals beyond their time or whatever, they're going to be like, wow, she's a tough on crime candidate.
01:03:24.000No, I think the weird thing about Kamala's campaign right now is that she didn't primary.
01:03:28.000So she does have all the support, like she doesn't need to primary and get votes.
01:03:31.000On the other hand, it does not actually mean she has complete support from the grassroots Democrats, right?
01:03:39.000Every congressional Democrat, every governor was like, yep, you're the gal.
01:03:42.000But the voters are not as sold on her as they would like them to be.
01:03:46.000There's enough room for like disagreement within their party especially like I mentioned Palestine with some prosecution stuff that I think you could honestly say if you kept talking about this you might help independents but also some progressives might say oh yeah we didn't like her the first time around.
01:04:02.000You know you have to remind some of these people right like they forgot but I think any voters that are convinced right now are simply just convinced because they don't like Donald Trump.
01:04:11.000How could they possibly be convinced on any of her policies when you go to her website right now and there's zero vision zero agenda and zero policies for how she's going to help this country.
01:05:37.000So good luck convincing people that the other side is just wrong or evil or whatever instead of talking about the price of food.
01:05:43.000Yeah, I think they should start telling conservatives, anyone who ends up on like CNN or does any kind of mainstream thing should...
01:05:50.000push home the point that Kamala Harris does not respect you enough to give you a platform.
01:05:56.000Like, she does not care about you, and that's crazy.
01:05:59.000The crazier part to me is look at Donald Trump going on all of these networks, going against
01:06:05.000the media, holding press conferences, inviting the mainstream media to come.
01:06:09.000The same media that is propping Kamala up is the one that she's running away from?
01:06:14.000I mean, that should scare every American.
01:06:16.000When she did that, she gave this comment to reporters, like, when are we going to get an interview?
01:06:19.000And she was like, oh yeah, we're going to set up one by the end of August.
01:06:23.000Ma'am, any reporter would come from the ends of the earth to interview and have an exclusive sit down with you.
01:06:30.000Like, you could have one tomorrow, but you don't respect your voters enough to give them one.
01:06:35.000Or your team knows that you can't handle it.
01:06:36.000Do you think she's like training for the interview?
01:06:39.000Hasn't she been a public figure for long enough?
01:06:41.000If she can't handle it now, why is she running for president?
01:06:43.000Apparently Americans also forgot that with the whole, on day one of my administration, sweetheart, you've been part of this White House for three and a half years.
01:06:51.000The oppressive white man is holding her back, as you know.
01:06:54.000That's the comment that she's making there.
01:06:57.000She is saying, oh, I'm not allowed to do stuff because Joe Biden's in my way.
01:07:45.000I'm upset with you, Clint, for making me read that.
01:07:49.000And there was one where it's like, he's the dad you lost to Fox News, come back, or whatever, or something like this.
01:07:55.000Like, this is what your father would have been if not for Fox News.
01:07:58.000There's one where... So many dad jokes.
01:08:00.000There's one where it's a bunch of women and girls are hugging him and he's smiling and it's like he could save us or something It's just like the weirdest stuff man social media, but it's daddy issues Wow Like isn't that weird that this is the thing that I don't get why they have to make it so it's like Kamala is our is mom I mean, I know her stepkids call her mama like Kamala is our mom a lot.
01:08:24.000Him also is our dad or uncle and we're desperate for family and connection and even though
01:08:27.000they'll never know who we are, we're going to somehow put them on this weird pedestal
01:10:52.000And then in World of Warcraft, when you have two factions, the Alliance and the Horde, and you're not supposed to be able to communicate with each other because it's a PvP server.
01:10:59.000And so if you on one side, I think the Horde, is approaching you and they speak Orcish or whatever, if you type LOL, the Alliance player sees Kek, K-E-K.
01:11:09.000So a lot of young people then online started saying Kek instead of LOL, and then people started to, like, eventually someone found out Kek was an Egyptian god, it was a frog, then there was the Pepe frog, then there was that song Chatelet where the record has a green frog on it and it's like frog magic or something.
01:11:26.000There's a documentary talking about it, all these weird memes that happened.
01:12:43.000They always have failed to make long-standing memes.
01:12:46.000But Kamablah doesn't represent any kind of cultural idea.
01:12:52.000That's why people are trying to come up with names for waltz, because the name is supposed to install in your mind an idea about him every time you hear it, and we're not getting that.
01:13:01.000I just keep thinking it means they're going to waltz right into the White House.
01:13:51.000And then we're gonna go and do even worse.
01:13:53.000But we'll still cancel and censor you for talking about it.
01:13:55.000I wonder if the reason the memes aren't there is because there's a lot of people who are meme smiths who have, uh, who have, who have bowed out.
01:14:08.000So there's a lot of comedy personalities that were making memes because it was fun and funny.
01:14:13.000And then they ended up, now they're completely uninvolved.
01:14:15.000I think it's because we took the fun out of everything.
01:14:17.000We definitely took the fun out of memes.
01:14:19.000And I think the left Realized that these young guys on YouTube and X who are posting funny things were not diehard Trump supporters, but were mocking the left.
01:14:29.000And that's what was really driving a lot of this.
01:14:31.000So they got targeted, bowed out, and now all that's left is like, I don't know, cat turd.
01:15:53.000Karl used to be a bit more crass, as it were, and now it's very above board and academic, and I respect it, but there were a lot of people who are no longer aligned, you know, at the time.
01:16:05.000You had people like, uh, I could pull up maybe one of these old images showing everybody at VidCon or something.
01:16:11.000The anti-woke, the anti-leftist YouTube community.
01:16:14.000A lot of these people were making the videos and the memes that were getting a lot of attention.
01:16:17.000It could actually be much more simple than all of this.
01:16:22.000They figured out that these networks existed, and then they just chopped them up and made sure that these things could not get traffic anymore, and now it's substantially harder for Trump to have these memesmiths succeed in influencing, you know, people in their mid to late 20s.
01:16:36.000Maybe it's also because we're in such a humorless environment.
01:16:38.000You know, like what they're doing to your tweet today.
01:17:54.000So there is obviously appetite for humor because of how humorlessness everything else is.
01:17:57.000Look, man, it really comes out of this.
01:17:59.000You've got two questions, and I do think the first segment on this, the big story of the day with Joe Rogan and RFK, does exemplify a lot of this, especially with the mean wars.
01:18:08.000The left is trying to say, I'd rather have a beer with Tim Waltz than J.D.
01:18:15.000This guy's like, my staunch Republican neighbor says, when I ask him about it, he says, well, Walt seems like the kind of guy you'd want to have a beer with.
01:19:52.000It was funny because we're hanging out backstage, and then they're doing comedy the whole night, but then when we go back to the green room, he's explaining, like, let me tell you about politics, and then he just goes off super smart talking about policy and everything, and it was fun and funny, and his retorts, like, that is what gets you there.
01:20:10.000When you have people like that are on Kill Tony, I don't know, is he still, is he a regular on Kill Tony?
01:20:37.000And then he got ragged on by Trump supporters because he walked it back a little bit.
01:20:41.000But then like most of the moderate, so there's moderates Who have aligned with the right exactly as Elon described.
01:20:48.000It was the Colin Wright meeting where we were kind of liberal leftists and then the left went nuts and now we've aligned with the right.
01:20:54.000That's why it's like Ben Shapiro and I will probably disagree on most things but then we vote for the same stuff because we agree that we like America and America's good.
01:21:03.000And that shift, those moderates and those comedians need to stay aligned.
01:21:08.000When they started ragging on David Lucas over this, and then he said something to the family like he wasn't, you know, it was kind of an apology, I don't know.
01:21:16.000I had to, I was like, I don't care, dude.
01:21:18.000I don't care if people are mad, like, don't apologize.
01:21:20.000And I was like, no, no, no, David Lucas is a funny guy.
01:22:43.000They said Kamala, it's like Kamala Brett and then it switches to Trump and then it turns red and it says Chad and then it plays like deep bass and it's like showing Trump and like the screens flashing.
01:23:47.000One of his best jokes, I don't know if it's been a long time, was he was just talking about how cats look out the window and they do that gibbering thing.
01:23:53.000And it was just like, I can't remember the full bit, but it was hilarious.
01:23:56.000And I'm like, this is a night to remember.
01:24:40.000They feel like they're walking out with some hope, a vision for this country, and it's a safe space to express your love for America.
01:24:48.000What Trump does really well, this is exactly it, his rallies.
01:24:51.000So when I got invited to the White House, I went with Bill Otten for the social media summit.
01:24:56.000And I thought it was going to be like a roundtable with maybe like 30 people and we're hanging out and Trump's going to be asking questions.
01:25:02.000No, it was Trump standing at a podium with like 100, 200 people in a room and Trump did stand up for an hour.
01:25:07.000The whole crowd of people who already liked the guy are laughing their ass off the whole time.
01:26:00.000I was at, I saw him speak at the New York Young Republicans Gala and he said something like, Ginger Gates sang the national anthem and he was like, she's very beautiful, not that I notice beautiful women!
01:27:45.000It's just Trump having fun and being funny.
01:27:47.000And we all laughed our asses off when he posted that.
01:27:50.000He's gotta get on Twitter and start doing this stuff again.
01:27:52.000Well, I like that one in particular, because like, whenever people turn around, they're like, actually, I'm endorsing this person I've been very publicly fighting with, like, at least he's being honest.
01:28:01.000There's some tension still there, right?
01:28:03.000But he's gonna forgive Bill a little bit.
01:28:41.000Because we need him on X. The Truth Social is okay.
01:28:43.000There are accounts that repost his truth posts.
01:28:45.000I think he's contractually obligated to be on Truth, though, is the issue.
01:28:48.000Because the stocks and if he goes on X, the DJT stock drops.
01:28:51.000Yeah, but his campaign goes up and he regains the news cycle.
01:28:56.000People are always going to seek out what he's saying anyways.
01:29:00.000I don't totally get, and I am not the most avid X user, I'll admit it, but I don't totally get what he achieves by directly posting to X. There's everything about the algorithm lately, though.
01:30:38.000What you're pulling up are tweets that last forever, have a legacy, and what Cathard's doing are just immediate shotgun blasts that may or may not be funny, but there's no longevity to it.
01:32:31.000I think that was even in his rebuttal today.
01:32:34.000Right, and I honestly think when Joe was the number one on all platforms across the board, My personal opinion, and this is not from anything he said to me, is that he probably was like, I don't want to be the biggest podcast in the world.
01:32:48.000The money's nice, but it's like, Joe goes on his show and says, yo, I had Wheaties for breakfast, and then everyone writes a news article, and it's like, I don't know if you want, if you really, really want something like that.
01:32:59.000People might think they want that, you don't want that.
01:33:02.000Like, he is ultimately a very curious and creative person, and he does get the opportunity to talk to all kinds of people, which is cool, but, you know, I'm sure a lot of his life is pretty regimented to put out the volume of work.
01:33:16.000He's got a family, and he launched Comedy Mothership, and he just happened to end up in this weird journalistic position where he was saying he's not a journalist, and everyone's like, no, Joe, you are because you're interviewing these important people.
01:33:26.000And he's like, I just want to talk to people I think are interesting.
01:33:29.000So I think he doesn't want to have that.
01:33:42.000Having the show draw a bunch of scrutiny and get attacks from the political world, I don't think he wants that.
01:33:47.000And that's why it's a delicate approach.
01:33:50.000But this goes to the point of, I do think when you look at the meme wars of 2016, it's eight years ago now, a lot of the energy that brought the comedy to the Trump side, to the right, to the anti-left, and the anti-left really did result in a lot of votes for Trump, It's gone.
01:34:03.000A lot of these people just don't care to be involved in this stuff.
01:34:08.000In order to do it, you have to create an environment of fun and funny.
01:34:12.000And so... Which the conservatives are completely capable of doing.
01:34:15.000I wonder if the issue may just be that, like, the 20... So we're talking eight years ago.
01:34:20.000So people in their late 20s are now in their mid 30s and they're like, I got kids.
01:34:23.000I'm not, I'm not going to go on Twitter.
01:34:25.000I'm not, like the people who are posting the memes.
01:34:27.000I don't know if you guys ever saw the clown world video where the Pepe is like, all the left memes and the Wojaks are screaming and they're laughing and the, you know, the clown guy is playing the Yoshi music.
01:34:39.000These guys who made that stuff are probably like, look, man, I just had my second kid.
01:36:04.000Having the culture is where it's going to be.
01:36:06.000So the left still has it, though, because I used to like Justin Vernon way back when, before he got so upset with Kanye for wearing the red hat.
01:36:16.000And he's the guy who's doing the Kamala Harris rally the other day that was singing that song everyone hated.
01:37:00.000And social media matters though, not to put it down, but the rallies, the things that people are going to, people feeling comfortable to say those things out loud, like that's what Lil Pump's been saying on Twitter lately, is like, I'm not afraid to just be myself anymore.
01:37:12.000I'm like, when have you ever been afraid?
01:38:43.000That's why we have such geographical moving around, people leaving West, people leaving the West, I was gonna say California, or people leaving New York like I did.
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01:40:34.000Kalashnikov says Trump had three major wins that legitimized him in the eyes of many.
01:40:38.000The debate with Biden, the assassination attempt, and his RNC speech.
01:40:42.000Trump camp has turned all that momentum into attack Joe Rogan, apocalyptically disasterful.
01:40:49.000I gotta tell you, like, that's a great point.
01:40:52.000I don't know that it's completely diminished all of that energy, but that's what some of the pollsters are saying.
01:40:57.000Nate Silver had tweeted that he can really see a major bump since Kamala Harris began to run, and I think part of the reason that they swapped out Joe Biden, it's obvious, nobody liked him, nobody wanted him, nobody cared about him, and Kamala is new energy for a cult.
01:41:11.000They don't care who it is, they just don't want old man Biden.
01:41:58.000And it was such a passive thing for me too, because we were setting up the Culture War show and I'm walking in the room looking at my thing and just seeing people being like, screw you, blah blah blah.
01:42:07.000I think this kind of goes back to how we're saying America can't take a joke anymore.
01:42:28.000Not malicious, that's too strong, but like, I think there are people who want it to be like, this guy's turning on Trump, and you know, whatever else.
01:42:35.000They're gonna skip the context because it serves the fact that they're trying to get a negative article out today.
01:42:42.000Foxbat25 says, Tim, what's the update with David Pakman coming on The Culture War?
01:42:46.000Dying to see this conversation ever since you mentioned it a month or two ago, and now I can't seem to find anything out about it.
01:42:51.000Oh boy, it's, uh, so, you know, look, What do we want with the culture war?
01:42:56.000And so now a bunch of people are saying that we should have Cat Turd on and a couple other people and do the big debate about, hey, you got beef?
01:43:04.000Turn it into a show and it's good because it starts with and ends with vote for Trump, right?
01:45:22.000So I won't say much more than that because we don't have anything hammered out, but it's going to be like a first-come, first-served kind of thing.
01:45:48.000Lunderwear says, as a two-time Purple Heart recipient, former Marine, please say in Trump's voice, Tibby Tibby lied about going to war so he could dodge bullets, but not quite like me, literally.
01:46:17.000You've got kids right now, and you're looking at what's going on in this country, and you're cognizant of the gender ideology stuff, economics.
01:48:05.000Rachel Pye says, plug Chicken City and let's have a chicken party.
01:48:08.000For those that don't know, Chicken City Live is a live stream where you can watch chickens.
01:48:13.000It's better during the day and whenever you super chat, food comes down and the chickens run to eat it.
01:48:20.000Whenever $100 in Super Chats is collected, disco lights turn on and dance music starts.
01:48:25.000Now, I don't know if we've actually maintained Chicken City to the great degree that it was when we first launched it, but the chicken parties were... Basically, I pressed record and I screamed, chicken party, and then found a song and then edited a little bit.
01:48:52.000The chickens would just be like, looking around.
01:48:53.000And then when the food started coming down, the chickens would run to the food.
01:48:56.000Eventually, they realized me screaming, CHICKEN PARTY, meant food was coming.
01:49:01.000So the chickens would be walking around, you'd hear the scream, CHICKEN PARTY, and they'd all bolt straight to the food dispenser and have the food come down.
01:49:08.000I'll never forget being in the RV, the old RV, being behind the Daily Wire studio, and you had just launched Chicken City, and they're pretty serious over there.
01:49:16.000We're out back just laughing at chicken parties.
01:49:18.000And Jeremy Boring's in there, and I was like, yeah, I think we pulled in about $20,000 off Chicken City this month, and he was like, what?
01:49:25.000CEO of the Daily Wire is like, you made $20,000 off this?
01:49:31.000But because everybody, you know, honestly the novelty at first of being able to feed the chickens remotely and trigger a party, people were dumping money like thousands of dollars per day to watch the parties.
01:49:43.000And then after a while, the novelty wears off and it normalized to a decent amount where it paid the cost of us.
01:49:48.000Like, we basically have free chickens because it covers the cost of all the food and supplies and electricity.
01:50:04.000Like, I don't know what you'd call it.
01:50:05.000And the idea was to make them into paychecks using, you know, safe coloring, maybe like a little bit of berry juice to write up paychecks for the chickens.
01:50:13.000And we wanted to film feeding them, like, here's your paycheck, and then they eat it.
01:50:16.000But they did not like the potato starch.
01:51:15.000They'd have to alter the coloring of the rooster now, too.
01:51:18.000Matt P. says, not a fan of Rogan simply because he normalizes drug use and drinking in front of millions, at a time when our men are becoming effeminate, obese, and pacifist, while millions of military-aged men invade our country purposefully.
01:54:35.000I think he's fantastic on environmental toxins.
01:54:37.000I think he should endorse Trump, and I think Trump needs to bring him in on these specific issues related to Big Pharma and environmental toxins, chemicals in the water, all of that stuff.
01:55:09.000Jordan Peterson famously had that moment.
01:55:12.000When it was being interviewed and he says, you know, businesses should be allowed to choose who they let in or discriminate if they want to.
01:55:17.000You should be able to, you know, tell them what they have to do.
01:55:20.000And then I can't remember which comedian it was.
01:55:21.000He says, what about if it was black people to be discriminated against?
01:55:24.000And then Jordan goes, oh yeah, maybe I was wrong about that.
01:57:59.000So let's tell all of the people who wanted Bernie for one reason or another, you're going to get more victories with Donald Trump than anyone else.