Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump SLAMS Ukraine President In TENSE WH Meeting, The War MAY END w- Rob Smith | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Well, today was absolutely crazy.

00:00:09.000 I don't know if you all saw that White House meeting where Zelensky, Trump, Vance were discussing the war, actively having a negotiation, as it were, and there are many minds about it.

00:00:20.000 Of course, many liberal-leaning personalities say this is an embarrassing moment for the United States.

00:00:25.000 Vladimir Putin was the only winner.

00:00:27.000 However, many on the right are saying Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, was arrogant and dismissive of the concerns that J.D. Vance and Donald Trump had.

00:00:35.000 Which is an insane strategy in a negotiation.

00:00:38.000 Still, it's remarkable to see this degree of conversation happening in public.

00:00:43.000 Trump even saying, the American people should see this.

00:00:47.000 This...

00:00:47.000 I'm going to give you my opinion right away.

00:00:49.000 I mean, Zelensky, it was shocking how he needed to be deferential to the country that was providing him hundreds of billions of dollars to save itself.

00:00:57.000 And he wasn't.

00:00:58.000 He was argumentative.

00:00:59.000 This could theoretically end the war.

00:01:02.000 Well, not in their favor if the U.S. just basically bannies them. 0.99

00:01:06.000 So we're going to talk about that.

00:01:07.000 But we are at a special party.

00:01:09.000 And we are hanging out with a bunch of really great people.

00:01:13.000 We're going to be discussing what exactly is going on with the Epstein files.

00:01:16.000 Because as you know, yesterday, there's this big hubbub around influencers who are given this binder.

00:01:21.000 In fact, it's actually sitting right here.

00:01:22.000 I'm not going to hold it up because that is a taboo.

00:01:24.000 All the influencers holding it up.

00:01:26.000 Everybody was like, you're taking selfies instead of breaking this news.

00:01:29.000 But we have Mike Cernovich here who's going to break down for us exactly what went down, how it all happened.

00:01:33.000 And we're also joined by Rob Smith who's going to be hanging out and talking to us.

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00:02:27.000 Joining us, as I already mentioned, we got Rob Smith hanging out.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, man.

00:02:30.000 Who are you?

00:02:31.000 What do you do?

00:02:31.000 Who am I? What do I do?

00:02:33.000 Man, Rob Smith at Rob Smith Online.

00:02:35.000 I've got a podcast called Can't Cancel Rob Smith to drop the new episode actually right now.

00:02:39.000 So go get that on Apple Podcasts, iHeart, wherever you get your podcasts.

00:02:43.000 Man, I just rub my mouth on social media.

00:02:45.000 I am a Iraq War veteran, served in 4th ID, a couple tours in the Middle East.

00:02:50.000 I've been out here on social media, in these social media streets for years.

00:02:54.000 I have been at a couple of these White House Influencer Summits, but not the one that happened yesterday.

00:03:00.000 Unfortunately, I did not make that one, so I know that that was quite the controversy.

00:03:05.000 Right on.

00:03:05.000 Well, we're also hanging out with Mike Cernovich, who was there.

00:03:08.000 Yeah, I was there, here to handle all the drama.

00:03:11.000 Break it down and tell us the details about what really happened.

00:03:15.000 The details and the real news.

00:03:16.000 What frustrated me about yesterday is we had, and I posted my notes online, we had all these notes, there was a whole media strategy, there were all these things to talk about.

00:03:26.000 But I was under embargo for three hours.

00:03:28.000 And I'm just watching people, including people that I've done nothing but retweet and help, saying the terrible things about me.

00:03:34.000 And then I made four videos, actually, in response.

00:03:38.000 I was with a friend of mine, Eric.

00:03:39.000 And I was like, you know what?

00:03:41.000 I'm not even going to respond to anything.

00:03:43.000 I'm going to let the hyenas reveal themselves.

00:03:45.000 I want to let everybody tell on themselves, because I want to know who is on the blacklist now.

00:03:50.000 And a lot of people were.

00:03:52.000 And I was like, wow, that's interesting.

00:03:53.000 I checked my DMs.

00:03:54.000 I was like, oh, wow.

00:03:55.000 I have 15 DMs from you asking me to retweet your stuff, especially when your career, you had an ascent career, you didn't have anything.

00:04:02.000 Oh, but you forgot how to use a DM now when you can try to bash me.

00:04:05.000 Yeah.

00:04:05.000 Good job.

00:04:06.000 So look, Mike, we were talking about this last night.

00:04:08.000 And first of all, there's nobody...

00:04:10.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:04:10.000 Sorry.

00:04:11.000 Let's jump into this conversation after we get through everybody.

00:04:14.000 So Ian and Phil...

00:04:14.000 I'm happy Ian Crosslin in the house, bro.

00:04:16.000 Let's fucking roll. 0.99

00:04:17.000 My name is Phil Labonte. 0.99

00:04:18.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band.

00:04:19.000 All that remains an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:04:22.000 Let's go.

00:04:22.000 So, should we hold up the binder?

00:04:24.000 They'll screen cap you, and then you'll be in the drama.

00:04:27.000 Oh god, they're gonna screen cap me!

00:04:29.000 Okay.

00:04:30.000 This is what the binder would look like if it wasn't covered up.

00:04:32.000 Don't smile, because if you smile, that means you obviously don't care about people.

00:04:35.000 Can we open the binder?

00:04:36.000 Yeah, yeah, show everybody.

00:04:37.000 Show everybody what the first page is.

00:04:38.000 Okay.

00:04:39.000 The first page...

00:04:40.000 Oh, don't show...

00:04:40.000 It's blank.

00:04:41.000 Okay, no, no, you're fine.

00:04:42.000 There's nothing...

00:04:43.000 Yeah, you can show them everything.

00:04:44.000 Okay, the first page is just blank.

00:04:46.000 Here's...

00:04:46.000 There's a table of contents.

00:04:48.000 I think this is the third page.

00:04:49.000 Can I just start leafing through it?

00:04:51.000 Yeah, yeah, there's nothing.

00:04:52.000 Okay, now we're getting into the juicy grits of the binder.

00:04:55.000 I don't know what all these words and names are.

00:04:58.000 Maybe you can explain it, Michael.

00:05:00.000 Well, yeah, let's start from the beginning.

00:05:02.000 Oh, this is it.

00:05:02.000 Yeah, so we'll start from the beginning.

00:05:04.000 The number one lie that was told, well, there were so many lies, how can you keep track?

00:05:09.000 And it was funny because I ran into a friend randomly, we won't say who, and we were hanging out.

00:05:13.000 And then I texted Rob to come hang out.

00:05:15.000 We wound up meeting in person finally.

00:05:17.000 And it was so funny because the internet was like doing whatever and we're just hanging out.

00:05:24.000 And the timeline of it was interesting because there were a couple weeks ago there was a summit to discuss new media strategies.

00:05:35.000 The press pool is going to change.

00:05:36.000 They want people like you doing interviews in the White House.

00:05:40.000 They wanted WACA, the White House Correspondents Association, which is a cartel that would exclude people like you and us.

00:05:47.000 They were ending the cartel.

00:05:49.000 So everything was about, here's a new media strategy.

00:05:53.000 And there were people from the Federalists that were covering other things.

00:05:56.000 And then there were a few of us who were in one room, because you could only have so many people.

00:06:01.000 And so we go there.

00:06:02.000 They take our phones.

00:06:04.000 Claim it's a secure room, whatever.

00:06:06.000 No phones.

00:06:08.000 We get briefings from everybody.

00:06:10.000 I can't say who, but from everybody.

00:06:12.000 It was on background, which a lot of people who don't have any journalistic ethics are like, well, wait, why did you wait three hours?

00:06:19.000 Well, because it was an embargo.

00:06:20.000 It's called an embargo.

00:06:21.000 There's a reason people talk to me and not the people that are going after me, because it was an embargo.

00:06:26.000 An embargo means you can smear me for three hours, and there is nothing that I can do to defend myself.

00:06:31.000 But that's the honor.

00:06:33.000 That's the honor system.

00:06:34.000 So, no phones.

00:06:37.000 Great day.

00:06:38.000 Trump ends up, we got the challenge coins.

00:06:41.000 Trump, we weren't really supposed to meet Trump.

00:06:44.000 You know how it is in the White House.

00:06:46.000 Trump rule.

00:06:47.000 Chaotic, right?

00:06:48.000 And they're just like, oh, here's Trump.

00:06:50.000 Oh, here's these guys.

00:06:52.000 And the whole point of the meeting was that we want Tim Kass.

00:06:57.000 We want the Federalists.

00:06:58.000 We want Breitbart.

00:06:59.000 We want Rob Smith.

00:07:01.000 We want people covering the media alongside the New York Times because the New York Times and WACA is spreading a hoax that only pro-Trump people are going to be allowed.

00:07:12.000 That's just an abject lie.

00:07:13.000 As you can see, if you're there, they're just saying that, no, these other people that you excluded with your cartel-like behavior can't be excluded anymore, right?

00:07:22.000 And so we get all these.

00:07:24.000 I have all these notes.

00:07:25.000 I feel like I'm back in law school and I'm taking notes.

00:07:28.000 Super hyped.

00:07:31.000 I can't say who, but you can guess who, because again, it's on background, which means I can't say who the person was, but we get the big box of stuff comes in.

00:07:40.000 Binders, Epstein files, right?

00:07:42.000 Like, oh, that's interesting.

00:07:43.000 They brief us and they go, hey, don't overhype this.

00:07:47.000 Here's what's going on.

00:07:48.000 We thought we had all the files we needed, but we found out that there's been stonewalling and destruction of evidence, and Anna Paulina has said this publicly.

00:07:59.000 And this was a different person who told us.

00:08:01.000 So here's a letter to Kash Patel.

00:08:04.000 The story is the letter.

00:08:06.000 The files we're giving you, because we want to show like, hey, we're doing what we can do.

00:08:11.000 We're doing what we can do.

00:08:12.000 Don't overhype them.

00:08:15.000 Downplay expectations.

00:08:16.000 But the letter was mainly, was the big story.

00:08:19.000 Embargo's till three.

00:08:20.000 Okay, great.

00:08:20.000 So we have our meetings.

00:08:21.000 They go into the Oval Office.

00:08:23.000 Everybody's like super hyped up now because Trump's in there.

00:08:26.000 If anybody wants any of that information, I can talk about all that.

00:08:30.000 But everybody's super wound up.

00:08:33.000 And we leave the Oval Office after taking our pictures and getting our coins and our markers and everything.

00:08:40.000 And then, here's the marker I'll show you.

00:08:42.000 They're pretty cool.

00:08:42.000 The ASMR executive pin marker.

00:08:45.000 Yeah, I've got one of those from Trump 1.0.

00:08:48.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:08:48.000 I'm floating around somewhere.

00:08:49.000 The marker, yeah.

00:08:51.000 So everybody's wound up.

00:08:53.000 And then...

00:08:55.000 The UK people needed the room that we were in in the West Wing, so they're like, sorry guys, we've got to leave.

00:09:00.000 We're going to go up to the other room in the Eisenhower building.

00:09:03.000 It's actually the interview room where J.D. Vance had his I-don't-really-care-Margaret moment.

00:09:09.000 So we go.

00:09:10.000 So we're walking down from the West Wing, and then I felt like I was walking into a firing squad because I don't like people to know what I do because then all people do is blood suck.

00:09:23.000 Oh, Cerno.

00:09:25.000 Oh, how do I meet Trump?

00:09:26.000 Oh, and then they get jealousy.

00:09:28.000 Like, well, why are you there?

00:09:30.000 All it does is it causes me problems.

00:09:32.000 So everybody who actually knows me knows that I'm always like, look, I'm irrelevant. 0.97

00:09:36.000 I'm a loser. 0.92

00:09:37.000 Don't text me. 0.99

00:09:38.000 Lose my number.

00:09:39.000 I can't do anything because I don't want people to know because it's just manipulative.

00:09:44.000 And I'm like, oh my gosh.

00:09:45.000 And then some people may have turned over because they go, what are you holding?

00:09:52.000 So everybody's just kind of like, well...

00:09:54.000 It's like a natural reaction.

00:09:56.000 And if you see the one picture, I was trying to hide my face.

00:09:59.000 My eyes were like, where's Waldo?

00:10:02.000 And then I put it down, and then they're like, oh, you smirked.

00:10:06.000 You don't understand.

00:10:06.000 They're serious at the moment.

00:10:08.000 No, I tried to hide my face.

00:10:09.000 The smirk was, I was like, now I'm caught.

00:10:12.000 I got caught.

00:10:13.000 It felt like you were leaving a brothel, and then it was like your girlfriend was out there, right?

00:10:18.000 You're like, oh, man.

00:10:20.000 But you're leaving a frat party or something.

00:10:22.000 You're like, man, I'm totally...

00:10:23.000 Caught.

00:10:24.000 And then we had to go up to the room and we still don't have phones.

00:10:28.000 We don't have our phones.

00:10:28.000 They took your phones from you?

00:10:30.000 Yeah.

00:10:30.000 So we didn't have our phones and then all the people are posting pictures of us.

00:10:35.000 Wow.

00:10:35.000 So I was like, oh man.

00:10:37.000 And then I get my phone back at like 1245, 1250 and then I'm tagged in all these pictures.

00:10:43.000 And then they're like, oh they got the Epstein Falls.

00:10:46.000 And I'm like, dude, I'm under embargo.

00:10:47.000 I can't say that they're nothing.

00:10:50.000 Even though I had been briefed that they were nothing, but that they were trying to get what they had.

00:10:55.000 And the real story was the letter from the AG to cash.

00:10:58.000 That was the real story.

00:11:00.000 And I'm like, man.

00:11:01.000 So I started DMing people.

00:11:03.000 You guys called.

00:11:04.000 And I was like, guys, it's nothing.

00:11:06.000 Here's the letter.

00:11:07.000 It's under embargo until 3. Trying to manage expectations back scene.

00:11:11.000 And then on the back of the scene, right?

00:11:15.000 And then that all becomes, oh, you're covering up, and why did you guys only get these things, and why didn't we?

00:11:22.000 So for three hours, I just had to let people give me a lick in, right?

00:11:26.000 And it was a lot of people I was surprised.

00:11:28.000 I was like, man, man, all these years, and you can't send me a DM before you put me on blast.

00:11:35.000 Why do you think that they released it to five people and not to the public?

00:11:39.000 Let me, I'm sorry.

00:11:40.000 We'll follow up with that.

00:11:42.000 What I wanted to point out to a lot of people who don't know is that, The only reason we have these files, whatever they may be, even if it's 10 years old, is because you filed legal paperwork which broke open the Epstein story.

00:11:53.000 That is you.

00:11:54.000 When I saw people coming out of the White House, and you're in the background, kind of like looking away and trying to get away from the cameras.

00:12:01.000 There was no moment in my mind where I was like, how come Mike is there?

00:12:05.000 I was like, of course Mike is there.

00:12:07.000 He broke this story.

00:12:09.000 Literally, you were the guy?

00:12:11.000 The guy that started the...

00:12:12.000 How did it start?

00:12:14.000 It started, there was a defamation action brought against Ghislaine Maxwell.

00:12:21.000 and everything, my lawyer, Mark Randazza, who's a First Amendment lawyer, and he sent me this case file, and everything was just redacted.

00:12:30.000 And he goes, hey, aren't you always talking about Epstein?

00:12:32.000 And I go, yeah.

00:12:33.000 And he said, well, here's a backdoor way for you to get Epstein information, because it was a defamation case, there were depositions.

00:12:40.000 It wasn't against Epstein, but it involved him, because it was a civil lawsuit against Glenn Maxwell.

00:12:46.000 So we filed what was called a motion to intervene on behalf of Cerno Media, my media company, and a motion to unseal.

00:12:53.000 So we filed that.

00:12:56.000 And we lost at the trial court level.

00:12:59.000 And then we went up on appeal to the Second Circuit.

00:13:02.000 And in the meantime, the Miami Herald then filed, they joined mine.

00:13:08.000 So they joined my motion to intervene and motion to unseal.

00:13:11.000 They also lost.

00:13:12.000 And then it all went up to the Second Circuit Court of Appeals.

00:13:16.000 And then an oral argument, it became so obvious that the files would be unsealed, that Epstein was arrested.

00:13:23.000 The weekend after oral arguments indicated...

00:13:27.000 And Tim can confirm this.

00:13:28.000 I want to stress this.

00:13:29.000 Epstein was a free man.

00:13:31.000 Mike filed these papers.

00:13:33.000 Miami Herald joins.

00:13:34.000 Epstein gets arrested.

00:13:35.000 What did he get arrested for?

00:13:37.000 Well, the indictment thing is a whole other story we've talked about before where it was a containment operation.

00:13:42.000 So if you read the indictment against Epstein, they charged the minimal amount of conduct that you could charge...

00:13:51.000 That would allow you to create a media firestorm around it and make it look like you were doing something.

00:13:56.000 But they didn't contemporaneously raid the New Mexico property, the island, because I remember Luke Krakowski was going down the island.

00:14:04.000 The FBI hadn't even gone there.

00:14:05.000 So the criminal case against Epstein was actually a containment operation, which is a different discussion, which we've had before, because I explained that there's Mann Act violations that weren't charged.

00:14:17.000 It really was.

00:14:18.000 It was like, we've got to charge him with something.

00:14:20.000 We'll charge him while he got a massage in his apartment.

00:14:23.000 Therefore, we could only search his apartment.

00:14:25.000 We can't search Santa Fe because all this is about is him getting a massage from a 16-year-old.

00:14:31.000 Containment operation.

00:14:32.000 It was a mop-up operation, clearly.

00:14:36.000 But that's what they charged him with, but they didn't charge him until the Second Circuit of Oral Argument.

00:14:40.000 The Oral Argument was actually pretty funny.

00:14:42.000 They go, well, why can't you unseal these records?

00:14:45.000 You can't be in federal court and have confidentiality.

00:14:49.000 You can be in arbitration and have confidentiality.

00:14:51.000 You can have an NDA, which unfortunately a lot of media outlets use to silence people.

00:14:57.000 You can put people under NDA and mandate arbitration, but once you're in federal court, that's all public.

00:15:02.000 Other than your social security number, your address, financial revenue records, you can redact confidential information, but you can't just say...

00:15:11.000 The whole legal theory and allegations and everything can't be redacted.

00:15:14.000 So the Second Circuit oral argument, where Randaz was there and the Miami Herald was there, they go, I mean, what are you talking about?

00:15:22.000 Of course.

00:15:22.000 And it was obvious.

00:15:23.000 So if you read the contemporaneous media coverage, which a lot of people didn't read at the time and they don't know how to look up, you can say oral argument says Miami Herald and Cernovich are going to get this.

00:15:33.000 Then they arrest Epstein a couple days later when he's flying back.

00:15:36.000 So if there isn't me and there isn't the Miami Herald, 100% he doesn't get indicted.

00:15:40.000 100%.

00:15:41.000 This is not up for rational debate.

00:15:44.000 Go ahead.

00:15:45.000 It was a crazy chain of events when all this was going down, and I remember Luke being like, they arrested him!

00:15:50.000 Like, what happened?

00:15:51.000 And now here we are.

00:15:53.000 I mean, how many years ago was that?

00:15:54.000 Like, eight years?

00:15:55.000 2019, I think.

00:15:56.000 2019, so six or so years ago.

00:15:57.000 And now we have this moment at the White House where the files are coming out.

00:16:01.000 Yeah, so follow-up question from earlier.

00:16:03.000 So they give these files to five people or so?

00:16:06.000 No, no.

00:16:06.000 Everybody in the room got it.

00:16:07.000 Fifteen.

00:16:07.000 Okay, but why fifteen?

00:16:08.000 Why shouldn't they?

00:16:09.000 Why shouldn't they?

00:16:11.000 What was your take on that?

00:16:12.000 No, I mean, I hate that question because everybody online is like, well, it's pretty normal for some people to get releases of information that they can go through.

00:16:24.000 Like, why just release it online and then every random person can post some random thing out of context?

00:16:29.000 In case gatekeepers get a hold of it?

00:16:31.000 I mean, 20 people, you can't gatekeep 20 people, right?

00:16:34.000 So, for example, the files were pretty much nothing and one of them was a black book.

00:16:40.000 But if they just do some general release, some lunatic is going to say, oh, look, Trump was in it.

00:16:45.000 And you're like, it was a black book. 0.86

00:16:47.000 Walter Isaacson was in it.

00:16:49.000 Ivana Trump was in it.

00:16:50.000 It was just a list of phone numbers.

00:16:52.000 It's like if somebody goes into your email, they're like, oh, wow, you had his email, therefore there's this.

00:16:57.000 So a lot of people handle things irresponsibly.

00:17:00.000 So if it's one person or two people or three people, then the whole, like, well, maybe it's being gatecapped.

00:17:06.000 Could be possible, but with 20 people, there's just no way to gatekeep it.

00:17:09.000 Do you think this was a stunt?

00:17:11.000 A PR stunt?

00:17:12.000 The debate is, and this is how some people who were there yesterday feel, I don't feel this way.

00:17:18.000 There's three theories.

00:17:20.000 The theory I have, the theory that we were set up, and then the theory that it was 4D chess.

00:17:27.000 So, the 4D chess theory is that...

00:17:29.000 The reaction of everybody yesterday was so intense that that's really going to pressure SDNY and the FBI to know people are really mad.

00:17:39.000 You've got to give something real.

00:17:42.000 So it was all 4-D chess.

00:17:44.000 The setup thing was like, we got set up to look bad.

00:17:47.000 That wasn't the vibe of the meeting.

00:17:49.000 Hey, everybody come in.

00:17:50.000 You're going to get briefed by everybody.

00:17:52.000 Trump's going to give everybody a coin.

00:17:54.000 Trump's whole thing is you guys are the media now.

00:17:56.000 You know, there's people now on Air Force One who are with the daily wires on Air Force One.

00:18:00.000 If you guys want to get on Air Force One, you're going to be able to.

00:18:02.000 So, oh, hey, you guys can be on Air Force One if you want.

00:18:06.000 Apply.

00:18:06.000 We'll get you on.

00:18:07.000 Oh, you want to go do an international meeting?

00:18:09.000 Posobiec went to, I think, the Ukraine stuff.

00:18:10.000 You can go.

00:18:11.000 Oh, but we're going to set you up.

00:18:13.000 Like, what?

00:18:14.000 Please set me up more.

00:18:15.000 You know, it's just not congruent as a theory.

00:18:18.000 And then the 40 Chessman is, I don't think it is.

00:18:20.000 What I think happened was, Pam Bondi...

00:18:24.000 Was on the media hyping things.

00:18:27.000 And then she found out that there was a big cover-up.

00:18:30.000 She wanted to hand people what they had because Anna Paulina and other people in Congress were hassling her. 0.99

00:18:36.000 She's 60. She doesn't look 60. She's 60. She doesn't understand the OODA loop of new media.

00:18:42.000 And how it's just chaos.

00:18:44.000 So once everybody went out, and once there was a picture, no embargo.

00:18:49.000 There just should have been no embargo.

00:18:50.000 I should have just been able to say, hey guys, There's nothing in here, just so you know.

00:18:54.000 Well, it got leaked almost instantly.

00:18:56.000 Right.

00:18:57.000 And then you've got to end the embargo.

00:18:58.000 So the OODA loop, which is my theory, is that if you're more old school, you don't understand it's chaos.

00:19:06.000 And once one little thing happens, you have to respond in the information battlefield immediately.

00:19:11.000 You can't go, well, the embargo's till 3. Who cares that your pictures are there?

00:19:14.000 Now Elon's wondering what's in these files.

00:19:16.000 Everybody, so I'm DMing people.

00:19:18.000 Guys, it's actually the letter.

00:19:20.000 It's under embargo.

00:19:20.000 I'm messaging you.

00:19:21.000 Viva Frey.

00:19:23.000 Everybody who DMs me, I'm being like, guys, no, no, no.

00:19:26.000 Don't say anything till 3 o'clock, though.

00:19:28.000 And that's just how it went down.

00:19:30.000 Dude, I heard that Pambani initiated a raid on the New York... 0.98

00:19:34.000 What was it?

00:19:36.000 The AG up there, the people that were apparently holding files.

00:19:38.000 Do you know much about this?

00:19:39.000 You heard that?

00:19:40.000 Yeah.

00:19:40.000 I had heard something like that, too, and I think I saw on Alina Habba's Instagram that she just has boxes of files that are on their way back or something like that.

00:19:47.000 Yeah, I heard that, too.

00:19:48.000 I think that this is moving.

00:19:49.000 Yeah, and that's the 40 chess argument.

00:19:54.000 I agree with that argument.

00:19:56.000 I do, because they knew who they were having in the room, right?

00:19:59.000 And they know that these are people with lots of followers, lots of influence, etc.

00:20:02.000 And Team Trump and the White House press team, I think that they knew something like this would happen.

00:20:14.000 Right.

00:20:15.000 I think that they knew they were going to generate conversation.

00:20:17.000 Alina Hubba said, I just personally loaded the infamous boxes onto Air Force One to head home where they belong.

00:20:22.000 Justice has been and will continue to be restored in this country under President Trump.

00:20:26.000 Truth and justice always win in the end.

00:20:29.000 God bless America.

00:20:30.000 She didn't say the Epstein stuff, just infamous boxes, but I think the implication is clear, right? 0.59

00:20:34.000 Yes.

00:20:35.000 That's what it seemed like to me when I read it.

00:20:36.000 I mean, I guess there's at least an argument to say, hold on, considering the situation with the Epstein files and stuff so far.

00:20:43.000 I wouldn't get super excited about this being the stuff coming out just because of the way that it's been kind of, you know, leaked out so far.

00:20:52.000 I'll believe it when I see it, I guess.

00:20:54.000 Skepticism is the policy.

00:20:55.000 I think I kind of go with your take on what's going on, because they called this binder the Epstein Files Phase 1. Knowing that there's going to be more releases coming, they obviously didn't intend for this to be the final binder.

00:21:05.000 And we were specifically told, I don't want to create drama like who did what and should they not have done things and I don't want to get into that whole conversation.

00:21:16.000 I'll just say that I personally did not hype Anything as if it was coming out.

00:21:22.000 And I specifically was telling people back channel that, hey, because in my own mind I knew what was going to happen.

00:21:29.000 Everybody's waiting for them.

00:21:31.000 And then we're going to look like...

00:21:33.000 We're going to look back.

00:21:34.000 So what happens is, if one of the influencers gets invited to something like this, right?

00:21:39.000 Obviously, I wasn't there yesterday, but I've been to kind of similar things within the White House, and I know the press team and some of the influencer people, etc.

00:21:45.000 You know, there's an excitement from being there, right?

00:21:47.000 There's an excitement to try to be first, to try to do this, to try to take the photo, all of that stuff.

00:21:52.000 And I think that some people get caught up in that.

00:21:54.000 It's a very natural and very easy thing to get caught up in.

00:21:57.000 I've been in similar rooms with some of the people in that room.

00:22:00.000 I mean, I get it.

00:22:01.000 I think that...

00:22:02.000 A lot of the conversation that was happening online that was attacking Cerno and that was attacking all these other people, and we talked about this, sometimes when you are dragged by other media personalities or pseudo-influencers or whatever on the internet, it sometimes just is jealousy.

00:22:18.000 It sometimes just is the fact...

00:22:20.000 That people think that they were supposed to be in this room.

00:22:23.000 And why him and why not me?

00:22:25.000 Why Cerno and why not me?

00:22:26.000 Why Rob Smith and why not me?

00:22:27.000 Why Isabel Bryan or Liz Wheeler?

00:22:30.000 Why Laura Loomer and not me?

00:22:32.000 Exactly.

00:22:33.000 I'll be honest with you, Laura.

00:22:34.000 The conversation around why wasn't I invited is for your personal team and not for the public.

00:22:40.000 Yes.

00:22:40.000 So when I called my PR booking communications who's welcome to the White House, I was like, how did we miss this?

00:22:46.000 Yeah.

00:22:47.000 She's like, I don't know.

00:22:48.000 And I'm like, alright, well, let's figure out how we get it next time.

00:22:50.000 And what did I do today?

00:22:53.000 What did I do today?

00:22:54.000 I texted you the person.

00:22:56.000 And he handed me the mindset.

00:22:57.000 That's the whole thing.

00:22:58.000 Everybody, the people who went after, that's the whole weird thing is, anybody who knows what I do knows that I don't live in scarcity, I live in abundance.

00:23:07.000 So when I'm there, I was like, oh, where's the Federalist at?

00:23:10.000 Oh, no, actually, Sean Davis is next door.

00:23:13.000 Oh, the Daily Wire, they're going to be on Air Force One.

00:23:16.000 Right?

00:23:17.000 So I'm getting all this, like, jealousy from people.

00:23:19.000 Like, why would you be jealous of me?

00:23:20.000 All you gotta do is DM me, and I'll give you the number!

00:23:23.000 And there's nobody that elevates people like Timo did.

00:23:26.000 Like, the server's been elevating me and retweeting me, and we've been DMing for years before we were able to meet.

00:23:31.000 So I don't understand why people...

00:23:33.000 Like, my whole thing is, I don't understand why people attack other...

00:23:38.000 The influential news people online.

00:23:40.000 Like, you know, save your smoke for the Democrats or criticize our actual political figures, yeah.

00:23:45.000 But anytime, like, if I'm just going to be like, oh, well, Cerno did this or Tim Poole's this or whatever, it just reeks of jealousy and, like, scarcity.

00:23:52.000 You just got to work every single day.

00:23:54.000 Do your best.

00:23:55.000 And I understand the FOMO, but my thing is, like, you know, if I saw Mike Cernovich on a 200-foot yacht...

00:24:02.000 Smoking cigars, you know, having a party with all the finest champagnes.

00:24:06.000 I wouldn't get angry and pound the table.

00:24:08.000 I'd be like, yo, I gotta ask Mike to invite me.

00:24:10.000 That's kind of a right-wing thing, though.

00:24:11.000 What do I need to do to get there?

00:24:12.000 That's kind of a right-wing thing, though.

00:24:14.000 The left is kind of the group that are angry and upset when they see people that are successful, the jealousy kind of thing.

00:24:20.000 You see that on the left all the time.

00:24:21.000 On the right, you kind of have people that are more like, yeah, man, I want to be in that position, or I'm excited for them, I'm happy because I know he worked hard.

00:24:28.000 That's just kind of something that is normal on the right.

00:24:32.000 We have a correction.

00:24:33.000 People are saying that Alina Habba is talking about the Mar-a-Lago raid boxes, not Epstein.

00:24:36.000 Oh, really?

00:24:36.000 Well, there you go.

00:24:37.000 The correction, she should definitely clear that up there.

00:24:40.000 There's literally a response from someone saying, where are the Epstein files, though, and why in the world did you and Pam Bondi go on TV?

00:24:45.000 Say you saw them and that it was sick, but then we've seen nothing already.

00:24:48.000 Yeah, that's where my mind went when I saw the answer, so corrections.

00:24:51.000 And that's why I was cautious, but like Rob and I were talking about last night, one of the, the way the media world kind of went, is I remember 2015, 2016. Tim was still with another outlet.

00:25:06.000 He was the innovator of technology.

00:25:07.000 He was the early adopter to drones and 360. Me and Posobiec would embed with the rioters before anybody knew who we were.

00:25:15.000 And we would take over their microphones and be like, hey, hey, ho, ho, Bill Clinton is a you-know-what.

00:25:20.000 And people who weren't around then don't get it, but we had other stuff going on.

00:25:25.000 And now with the people who are during their 20s and they're like, oh, I want to be an influencer.

00:25:30.000 It became a career, so they're more motivated by covetousness and jealousy, whereas the people who are OGs, everybody was like, dude, we just stumbled into this world, you know?

00:25:40.000 Covetousness, that's a word.

00:25:41.000 Yeah.

00:25:42.000 Good word.

00:25:42.000 Thou shall not covet.

00:25:43.000 Yes.

00:25:44.000 I just want to give a PR bit of advice to everybody out there.

00:25:47.000 I saw a handful of people tweeting things like, I can't believe these were the people that were chosen.

00:25:52.000 You know, the hard work that I did, blah, blah, blah.

00:25:53.000 And I'm like, oh, no, no.

00:25:55.000 That's going to get you banned from all future events.

00:25:57.000 There's a no-no.

00:25:57.000 And I got legal bills I can show them, and they're welcome to all this work.

00:26:01.000 That's great.

00:26:02.000 I'll be glad to show my legal bills, and I'll be glad to get reimbursement for everything that all these people did.

00:26:08.000 I would love that when I had $150K in legal fees for this stuff, at least.

00:26:12.000 I quit looking at one point.

00:26:14.000 So what do you think the next move is going to be in the Epstein Files?

00:26:17.000 Do you think Pan Bondi is actually going to release anything?

00:26:20.000 Friday's come and gone, and we haven't seen anything.

00:26:22.000 I think...

00:26:25.000 That the public reaction was so strong that they have to, that's where the 4D chest comes in.

00:26:30.000 That maybe we were, and I don't want to say set up, because I don't feel like it was set up, but maybe they, the people knew that this would end the stonewalling at SDNY and at the FBI, and the people really want this stuff, right?

00:26:47.000 So we're going to have to get something.

00:26:49.000 My personal opinion is that, and this is where another criticism is like, oh, you're a...

00:26:54.000 You know, you're covering up for Israel or whatever.

00:26:55.000 Because there was an old clip where they were like, oh, it was a Mossad operation.

00:26:59.000 And I go, guys, whatever it was was above whatever Mossad is.

00:27:03.000 Because if it's Mossad, you couldn't talk about it.

00:27:06.000 Right? 1.00

00:27:07.000 That's how dumb these people are. 0.99

00:27:08.000 If you're allowed to talk about something, then that thing you're talking about is not really the thing that they're afraid of you talking about. 0.99

00:27:15.000 Right?

00:27:16.000 And if you look at what gets people censored...

00:27:18.000 Nobody will get censored for claiming it was evolved with Mossad.

00:27:22.000 Nobody would.

00:27:22.000 But if you talked about certain health issues a year or two ago, boom, you got banned.

00:27:26.000 So people think, oh, I'm so edgy.

00:27:29.000 And I go, no, whatever it is, it's the thing above Five Eyes.

00:27:33.000 It's the thing above all these other entities.

00:27:36.000 And somehow that means it's covering up.

00:27:38.000 It's like, no, it's actually the opposite.

00:27:39.000 I think we're dealing at the level of sovereign wealth.

00:27:44.000 Trillionaires.

00:27:45.000 Not just, because there's things above them.

00:27:48.000 We're talking about the royal wealth.

00:27:50.000 We're talking about the trillion, the trillionaires, right?

00:27:54.000 And who's the trillionaires?

00:27:56.000 We don't know.

00:27:56.000 And if you didn't know, they're a trillionaire.

00:27:58.000 So all these people think they're so edgy.

00:28:00.000 Oh, you're so edgy, Mossad!

00:28:03.000 Dude, it's something bigger, some superstructure.

00:28:06.000 And this is what I think about with the 4D chess, you know, idea, right?

00:28:09.000 You have to understand when you're doing this and you're kind of like in this game and you're being, you know, invited to do this or do that, whatever.

00:28:16.000 It's like, think about the level to which you are useful, right?

00:28:19.000 So you are being used in a certain way.

00:28:22.000 What am I being used for?

00:28:23.000 Am I being used for the good of the country?

00:28:24.000 Am I being used for the good of whatever?

00:28:26.000 And I think that that's something that you have to think about when you decide to do these things.

00:28:29.000 I think it just kind of is the name of the game and part of the industry we're in.

00:28:34.000 Yeah, because there's two different categories.

00:28:38.000 One is, I don't think anybody who knows, who's really familiar with me would be like, well, he's an influencer.

00:28:43.000 I'm an influencer who got John Conyers to resign from Congress because I uncovered sexual harassment documents that nobody knew about.

00:28:50.000 An influencer says, hey, look at me.

00:28:53.000 Here's my hot take on the issues of the day.

00:28:56.000 But I'm a hybrid because I still always interlate a lot of personality to it, too.

00:29:02.000 So people who are new to this world or new to me, they're like, oh, Cerno is a...

00:29:07.000 I'm an influencer, but nobody actually thinks of me in that way.

00:29:10.000 It's more of a hybrid thing.

00:29:11.000 But to your point about being useful, that's where Arnold Schwarzenegger, actually, they stole this quote from me for his book.

00:29:21.000 Years ago, I wrote an article like this, and before I saw it anywhere else, but it was, stay busy, be useful.

00:29:27.000 That's how I live my life.

00:29:28.000 What'd you do today?

00:29:29.000 What'd you do today?

00:29:30.000 Who'd you help?

00:29:30.000 What'd you do?

00:29:32.000 A lot of these people who are mad are useless. 0.99

00:29:34.000 And that's why nobody wants to deal with them. 1.00

00:29:36.000 If you cannot be used, you are useless.

00:29:38.000 The big story here is that the White House brought in prominent personalities in media who have bigger followings than a lot of corporate press to break a story.

00:29:48.000 And the reaction online throughout the day was outrage over this.

00:29:53.000 That was the weird part.

00:29:54.000 I would imagine that we, or humans, would be supporting just independent media.

00:29:59.000 Getting an uplift.

00:30:00.000 That was what I wanted to see.

00:30:01.000 I kind of tried to almost ignore the anger, the outrage, but it was there.

00:30:05.000 My reaction seeing these photos was to reach out immediately.

00:30:09.000 First thing I did was I tweet, any of you want to come on the show?

00:30:11.000 Yeah.

00:30:12.000 And then I talked with Mike, I talked to the handful of other people, and I was like, what happened?

00:30:16.000 Tell me everything.

00:30:16.000 I could not do that if it was the New York Times walking out with these binders.

00:30:19.000 We would have been sitting there being like, once again, the legacy media controlling the narrative.

00:30:23.000 This time around, I was like, holy crap, my friend is telling me the inside scoop on this release.

00:30:28.000 All right, so let me ask a question because I missed all this stuff.

00:30:31.000 I was doing some other stuff yesterday when this happened.

00:30:33.000 So everybody that was outraged, right, were these real, like, the regular people that consume our content and follows, right, like, were those people outraged or was it just people that are influencers or news people or whatever, right?

00:30:47.000 I saw Laura Loomer get pissed off. 1.00

00:30:49.000 And, I mean, she's known for doing that. 1.00

00:30:51.000 Yes, but she wasn't included.

00:30:52.000 With all due respect.

00:30:54.000 Laura was angry that nobody was publishing anything from it.

00:30:57.000 Yeah.

00:30:57.000 And then she said she reached up to Higher Right Check saying, give us the file.

00:31:01.000 And then she learned about the embargo?

00:31:03.000 She didn't know there was an embargo.

00:31:04.000 No, no.

00:31:05.000 To be fair, after the embargo, largely there was still limited stuff coming out.

00:31:08.000 And then Laura was working, as well as Nick's order, to publish a full scan of the documents.

00:31:13.000 There were a lot of people that were prominent media personalities who were very angry.

00:31:17.000 Yeah.

00:31:17.000 Regular people were angry.

00:31:19.000 The documents was a nothing.

00:31:20.000 It was a nothing murder.

00:31:21.000 Yes.

00:31:22.000 There were two dimensions.

00:31:23.000 There was the dimension of what he said.

00:31:28.000 The people who were mad kind of scapegoated us.

00:31:32.000 There were a number of things.

00:31:34.000 The only criticism I thought was kind of legitimate.

00:31:37.000 Even though it was a lie, as it relates to me, they were like, oh, you were smiling.

00:31:41.000 And I was like, no.

00:31:42.000 They were like, you were flaunting the binder.

00:31:43.000 No, somebody, if you walk outside and there's a camera, what are you, like, supposed to cry?

00:31:48.000 What is your reaction?

00:31:50.000 It's a candid picture.

00:31:51.000 You're walking by.

00:31:52.000 To be fair, Haya Wrightchick did do a little dance and, like, shot the binder. 1.00

00:31:56.000 I'm not saying anything about anybody.

00:31:58.000 So this is the thing when you're invited to these things.

00:32:01.000 And I remember like during the DeSantis days in Florida, there were a bunch of Florida influencers.

00:32:06.000 And I had went to, you know, some dinner with the governor after this whole thing had happened.

00:32:10.000 And we didn't post pictures or whatever.

00:32:11.000 But there were a lot of the prominent Florida-based conservatives.

00:32:14.000 I think it was like Ruben and Lisa Booth and all these people that I know, right?

00:32:18.000 But they took this smiling photo behind Governor DeSantis at his desk.

00:32:23.000 And then I remember seeing all of these people who I knew personally just get totally dragged.

00:32:28.000 And then in my mind it was like, okay, you have to watch those kinds of photo ops.

00:32:33.000 Like, you have to watch it.

00:32:34.000 Because, number one, not only are you going to inspire hatred from people that were not invited into the room, people are going to start questioning everything that you're putting up.

00:32:43.000 So you mean, don't gloat?

00:32:45.000 I wouldn't call it gloating.

00:32:46.000 I would just call it being cautious.

00:32:49.000 I've been to a couple of meetings like this, literally since, what is it, about to be March?

00:32:53.000 I've been to about two or three things of this this year, and there were opportunities to be photographed with certain people, and I declined.

00:32:58.000 Because it's not personally right for me.

00:33:00.000 I don't take that Trump thing.

00:33:02.000 I just got so mad at everybody.

00:33:04.000 No, but I wouldn't have even done it if it wasn't for yesterday.

00:33:06.000 Because I want to just put fuel on the fire and be like, you guys are mad.

00:33:10.000 But I'm the same way as you.

00:33:11.000 There's no pick of me with Don Jr. You've got to watch that stuff.

00:33:15.000 And I don't cloud chase anyway.

00:33:16.000 I don't think we have a picture together.

00:33:18.000 I don't think so.

00:33:19.000 And I've kind of been thinking about this for a while.

00:33:20.000 I think we should, to a certain degree.

00:33:22.000 Not cloud chase necessarily.

00:33:23.000 But I was thinking about how I never even say my own name introducing this show.

00:33:27.000 And I'm like, I get it's called Timcast, but everyone else says, I'm so-and-so, here's what I do, here's who can find me.

00:33:32.000 I don't.

00:33:33.000 Right.

00:33:33.000 And I'm like, maybe the show would be more successful.

00:33:35.000 I actually tried to get photos with prominent individuals or something.

00:33:37.000 But that's just not what I care about.

00:33:39.000 Right.

00:33:39.000 Yeah, the show's such a huge flop.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:33:42.000 No influence at all.

00:33:43.000 No, but what I'm saying, I guess, is any PR person would say, Tim doesn't do the right thing when it comes to marketing his show.

00:33:50.000 I don't get photos with my guests.

00:33:53.000 Me and Mike have never smiled for a photo to post on Instagram.

00:33:55.000 And I'll give you an example.

00:33:56.000 The only reason he wasn't at that thing yesterday was the guy, and that's why I made a text intro, the guy was like, oh, I didn't even know Tim left West Virginia anymore.

00:34:06.000 So in a way, it's a marketing failure because they're like, oh, Tim's got his thing and he doesn't travel anymore.

00:34:11.000 He's got a kid.

00:34:12.000 So in a way, you can write yourself out of the mix.

00:34:16.000 Yes.

00:34:17.000 Because you're like, oh, Cerno hangs out with his kids in mountain bike.

00:34:20.000 He's not going to be out here.

00:34:22.000 And I'm telling you, I literally texted some of the people that were behind yesterday.

00:34:25.000 And with me personally, nobody knows where I am in the world all the time.

00:34:29.000 Because I'm in Miami, kind of like doing my South Beach thing, playing my tennis or whatever.

00:34:33.000 I'm in D.C. more often.

00:34:34.000 But what I've noticed about spending more time in D.C. is that putting yourself in the mix is a part of all of this stuff.

00:34:41.000 I've seen success in the stuff that I'm doing.

00:34:43.000 Well, you've got to remind people what you do.

00:34:46.000 I ran into a thing where I needed to hire a CFO for a company, and a good friend of mine had left his investment banking thing, and I didn't even know he did it because he didn't think to be like, hey, bro, I'm a free agent now.

00:34:57.000 So I was commiserating with him.

00:35:00.000 I'm like, dude, the books are a mess.

00:35:01.000 He's like, oh, I'll do it for you.

00:35:02.000 I was like, how can you do it for me?

00:35:04.000 You're with whatever firm.

00:35:05.000 He goes, no, I left six months ago.

00:35:08.000 So the marketing lesson for people...

00:35:12.000 There's a point where you can be too aggressive and ask for too much, and that gets great.

00:35:16.000 Don't be asking me how to get to the White House.

00:35:18.000 But it's good to remind people, oh, actually, I left this.

00:35:23.000 I left the Daily Caller, and I'm at the Daily Wire now that I'm on a new beat.

00:35:26.000 So Luke is hanging out at the event.

00:35:29.000 He does great work for the Daily Wire.

00:35:31.000 I'm bad with names.

00:35:33.000 He breaks a lot of great news.

00:35:35.000 He's here.

00:35:37.000 It's good to just let people kind of know what you're up to.

00:35:39.000 Whether you're trying to be in this world or if you're an accountant.

00:35:43.000 Hey, I'm an accountant.

00:35:44.000 I'm taking on new clients.

00:35:45.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:35:45.000 Tim Pool is available for all appearances in the D.C. metropolitan area in Tri-State.

00:35:49.000 And Tim Pool wants to be on Air Force One.

00:35:52.000 Indeed.

00:35:53.000 Tim Pool will be on Air Force One.

00:35:54.000 I haven't put it out into the universe right now.

00:35:56.000 I would love to go on Air Force Two.

00:35:58.000 I think I was talking to Raheem because I'm about this.

00:36:01.000 covering JD's trip to Munich in live tweeting that stuff and doing that stuff, that's a really, for me, like particularly on Twitter, a really effective use of Twitter.

00:36:11.000 And I came up to D.C. and I was doing the hex of confirmation.

00:36:14.000 I live tweeted it and there was all these protesters and all this stuff.

00:36:18.000 And I got that stuff in real time on Twitter and that was awesome.

00:36:20.000 Well, let's actually talk about the White House today.

00:36:23.000 I mean, you were mentioning this earlier that you would have rather been at the White House today than yesterday.

00:36:26.000 Yeah, so yesterday, during our briefing...

00:36:29.000 We were told, because I was like, the influencer thing, I want to be in the room.

00:36:34.000 I want to be where the drama is.

00:36:36.000 And they go, oh no, they're just signing the mineral deal. 0.99

00:36:38.000 This is actually going to be dumb. 0.97

00:36:39.000 Enjoy your time. 0.91

00:36:41.000 Because I could have got credential for the thing today, right?

00:36:44.000 And so I'm in an Uber on my way to the gym.

00:36:47.000 I did my intervals today, my hard cardio, my intervals today.

00:36:51.000 And all of a sudden I see these clips.

00:36:53.000 And I didn't feel jealousy for people who were there, but I had massive FOMO. I was like, I could have been there.

00:36:59.000 I flew all the way out here.

00:37:01.000 And I left my kids and I'm not even here.

00:37:05.000 This moment was incredible.

00:37:07.000 Yeah.

00:37:07.000 Donald Trump and J.D. Vance.

00:37:10.000 I think Phil was talking about this.

00:37:12.000 The first 40 minutes of the meeting were actually rather fine.

00:37:15.000 I saw a great breakdown that said Zelensky is talking with Trump.

00:37:18.000 Trump is actually being a bit deferential, saying, we're going to help you out.

00:37:22.000 We want to help Ukraine.

00:37:23.000 And then Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, decides to start arguing with them, being combative.

00:37:29.000 And now they leave without a deal.

00:37:31.000 And if the U.S. says no, the war is over.

00:37:34.000 Zelensky landed in the United States aware of what the president's position was.

00:37:39.000 Like, he knew what the administration...

00:37:41.000 Thought this was basically just supposed to be a photo op.

00:37:44.000 It was just so that they could get some face time.

00:37:46.000 The intent was to kind of like mend the bad blood they had.

00:37:50.000 And Zelensky made the issue when they had a disagreement about what kind of security guarantees they were going to be.

00:37:59.000 Zelensky wants Ukraine to be in NATO. And Zelensky wants American troops to be in Ukraine to guarantee the success.

00:38:07.000 Or to guarantee the safety and to guarantee that...

00:38:10.000 Putin won't be an aggressor.

00:38:11.000 The United States, essentially, their position is we want to have rights to the minerals and stuff, and so we want to have economic deterrence, basically, because if the United States has businesses in Ukraine, that will deter Putin from taking any more territory.

00:38:28.000 It'll deter a war because the likelihood of having some kind of incident with Americans dying raises, and so that will be the deterrent.

00:38:36.000 That wasn't good enough for Zelensky.

00:38:38.000 Normally, these kind of...

00:38:41.000 will happen behind closed doors so they can swear at each other, call each other's names, be aggressive, be angry.

00:38:46.000 And then when you go ahead and talk to the actual press, everybody's kind of common chill.

00:38:51.000 But Zelensky made the issue in front of the press.

00:38:55.000 And that was a terrible move because Trump had already had a sour taste.

00:38:59.000 Zelensky came to Pennsylvania and was campaigning for Joe Biden.

00:39:05.000 So then to come to the new administration, I think this is the first time that Zelensky's met with President Trump, and to do that in front of the press and make an issue that's bad, it's a terrible way to try and force a change in policy when he knew that the United States had already made a decision it's a terrible way to try and force a change in policy when he knew that I do have a clip here.

00:39:26.000 This is a very long one, so I don't know if it's the...

00:39:28.000 Do we have audio working on this?

00:39:31.000 Not sure if we have the audio on this one.

00:39:33.000 No?

00:39:35.000 This is such a good video.

00:39:37.000 I highly, highly recommend this video, dude.

00:39:41.000 Yeah, I don't think we have audio on this one.

00:39:43.000 This is great.

00:39:44.000 Seeing that begging grubby little welfare queen Zelensky. 1.00

00:39:48.000 Basically get dressed down and have his butt handed to him by Trump and J.D. Vance. 0.99

00:39:53.000 It was the moment that Americans have been waiting for for the past three years.

00:39:58.000 Hundreds of billions of dollars.

00:39:59.000 I was shocked.

00:40:01.000 On our way here, we saw some canvassers for the ACLU. They were waving to people.

00:40:06.000 We talked a little bit before the show about...

00:40:08.000 I used to do fundraising.

00:40:10.000 You're pitching.

00:40:11.000 You're selling.

00:40:11.000 You are begging someone, please help me.

00:40:13.000 Give me your money.

00:40:14.000 I was...

00:40:17.000 Flabbergasted at Zelensky sitting down with the most powerful military, the utmost wealth, where he's in a position that if the U.S. says, I'm sorry, we're done, the war ends overnight, and he had the nerve to argue, you don't know what you're talking about, what reports have you seen, to J.D. Vance, instead of saying, I understand, I'm sorry, but please, please, we really do need your help.

00:40:39.000 Let me know what you need, because we will do anything.

00:40:42.000 This is a man who doesn't understand the position he's in.

00:40:45.000 The arrogance was shocking.

00:40:46.000 That moment where he said, and this was right before Trump went off, when he said, well, you know, you have a beautiful label, perhaps one day you'll see, perhaps one day you'll see.

00:40:54.000 My mind was blown at that.

00:40:56.000 The audacity, the arrogance, to sit there next to Trump.

00:41:00.000 And man, Trump said what everybody has been wanting to say to that little welfare queen for years. 0.64

00:41:07.000 It was an incredible, incredible moment.

00:41:09.000 It really was.

00:41:10.000 I'm glad the cameras were on.

00:41:12.000 Yeah, when J.D. We started talking is when Zelensky snapped.

00:41:16.000 Like, he could handle it.

00:41:17.000 I didn't watch the first 20, 30 minutes.

00:41:18.000 I popped in for the last 15 of salaciousness.

00:41:21.000 And J.D. just goes at him, and Zelensky's probably like, who is this guy?

00:41:25.000 Now this is VP? Yeah.

00:41:27.000 Staging authority over him?

00:41:28.000 I'm the president.

00:41:28.000 I'm the leader.

00:41:29.000 I think one of the big moments was when J.D. Vance mentioned the Biden administration.

00:41:33.000 Yeah.

00:41:34.000 And then Zelensky got all angry.

00:41:36.000 Instead of recognizing the power structure, the sentiment of the American people, and the position he was in.

00:41:41.000 He had the nerve to talk and snap back.

00:41:44.000 Yeah, he interrupted J.D., and then that's when Trump really dropped the hammer, when he interrupted J.D. Trump doesn't have time.

00:41:50.000 I mean, he doesn't seem to have time for disrespect.

00:41:52.000 Yeah, and the thing with J.D. is that the J.D. shade is classy.

00:41:55.000 The J.D. shade is very classy.

00:41:58.000 It's very thoughtful.

00:42:00.000 When JD dresses you down.

00:42:01.000 But then when Trump just drops the hammer.

00:42:03.000 And he dresses you down like, you know, I worked at KFC when I was like 19 years old in the military.

00:42:09.000 Like when your boss is like screaming at you because like you really effed up, right?

00:42:13.000 Well, didn't Zelensky say something like...

00:42:15.000 I read it as a veiled threat.

00:42:17.000 I don't...

00:42:18.000 The clip...

00:42:19.000 Trump said something like, you're in trouble and you don't know it or something.

00:42:22.000 And Zelensky said something like, you're going to be in trouble.

00:42:25.000 That's when Trump snapped.

00:42:26.000 Trump's like, don't tell us how we're going to...

00:42:28.000 It was a threat.

00:42:29.000 It was. 0.99

00:42:29.000 When I watched that, I was like, you worm. 0.99

00:42:31.000 You worm. 0.99

00:42:32.000 And my full... 0.87

00:42:33.000 Again, because I was in the Uber, even the Uber driver was like, turn that up.

00:42:37.000 And I go, I don't know what's going on.

00:42:39.000 I'm just listening to it too.

00:42:40.000 He goes, I can't believe he did that.

00:42:42.000 And I was like...

00:42:43.000 If you look at the body language of other people in the room, I believe it's the Ukraine ambassador was literally facepalming.

00:42:51.000 And if you look at Marco Rubio, he was staring ice knives at Zelensky.

00:42:57.000 And look, the Secretary of State was confirmed with a unanimous vote.

00:43:04.000 He's essentially...

00:43:05.000 Kind of the most, I guess, swamp creature that was in the room, the most establishment guy in the room, and he still, right after Zelensky left, he was tweeting his support for what President Trump said.

00:43:18.000 Most of the people that are upset with President Trump are either, one, ideologically possessed already, and no matter what happened, they were going to hate Trump, or they only saw the two-minute video, and they're basing their judgment based on only that.

00:43:29.000 You have to see the whole context.

00:43:30.000 You have to see that they were actually perfectly fine getting along.

00:43:34.000 Until Zelensky really made a bad decorum move.

00:43:39.000 It was outside of the bounds of normal negotiations, and he really blew it.

00:43:44.000 He vindicated everything.

00:43:46.000 I was thinking about that when I was walking over here.

00:43:47.000 I was like, man, imagine you're some swampy Republican like Lindsey Graham, who's, oh, we've got to worship this hero.

00:43:55.000 I'm like, dude, this video is a gift.

00:43:57.000 And I even posted something like trolley, because I went on to the alternative universe of CNN, and they're all going, well, today was a big victory for Putin.

00:44:04.000 So then I posted something like, oh, was Zelensky under compromise from Putin?

00:44:09.000 Because today clearly gave Putin a win, you know, using their language against them. 0.99

00:44:13.000 Because that's how dumb these people on CNN are. 0.99

00:44:16.000 And I want to just thank... 1.00

00:44:20.000 Zelensky.

00:44:20.000 Because all he did was vindicated everything that we said.

00:44:24.000 This is a welfare project.

00:44:26.000 This guy is, like when Trump said, you're not a tough guy.

00:44:28.000 We all wanted to say that.

00:44:29.000 Bro, Zelensky, you're a cross-dressing comedian. 1.00

00:44:32.000 No offense to those who are.

00:44:33.000 I'm actually pretty tolerant.

00:44:35.000 But...

00:44:37.000 Remember you watched G.I. Joe as a kid?

00:44:40.000 Yeah, fatigue.

00:44:42.000 I know what you're doing.

00:44:43.000 You're a little G.I. Joe figure.

00:44:45.000 Look, he's an actor.

00:44:46.000 This guy was an actor and a dancer, and he was on the Dancing with the Stars of Ukraine.

00:44:51.000 He's playing a role, and he's been playing this role.

00:44:54.000 And I think that the reason that he was so emboldened to act the way that he did today is because he's been propped up by all of the crooks that we just kicked out of DC.

00:45:04.000 He has been propped up by these Democrats, he's been propped up by Hollywood, he's been propped up by the mainstream media that he was performing for.

00:45:10.000 And so it was so kismet and so of the moment that we're in right now that this is what happened to him.

00:45:18.000 And he crawled out of there with his tail between his life.

00:45:19.000 Think about what Trump is asking.

00:45:20.000 I want a mineral rights.

00:45:22.000 We're going to give you weapons.

00:45:23.000 We're going to support you in this war.

00:45:24.000 You're going to win the war.

00:45:25.000 What are we going to exchange?

00:45:26.000 It's a very simple negotiation.

00:45:28.000 Why should the United States fund and basically run their war for them for nothing?

00:45:33.000 And so let's get the nerve to say you should.

00:45:35.000 That's why.

00:45:36.000 And not only that, he's making demands about entry into NATO. And that's the thing that Putin says he doesn't want.

00:45:43.000 I'm not in any way pro-Putin.

00:45:46.000 I know I'm the guy that's going to say that Putin started the war.

00:45:50.000 He invaded.

00:45:51.000 But at the same time, you have to understand that from Putin's perspective, Ukraine cannot join NATO. That's been a sticking point, and the United States and the rest of NATO should say, no, Ukraine can't join NATO. We'll come up with other creative ways to ensure your...

00:46:08.000 Security, but you can't join NATO. And that's the sticking point that Zelensky wants.

00:46:14.000 They demand that Donald Trump disparage Vladimir Putin mid-negotiations. 0.99

00:46:17.000 Yeah, it's dumb. 1.00

00:46:18.000 And that's psychotic. 1.00

00:46:19.000 I have no problem.

00:46:20.000 I'm not a politician.

00:46:21.000 I'm not in government.

00:46:22.000 So I got no dog in this race. 1.00

00:46:27.000 Vladimir Putin is a scumbag. 1.00

00:46:28.000 I think he's a terrible, terrible guy. 1.00

00:46:32.000 That's fine. 0.53

00:46:33.000 If I was going to negotiate with the man on a peace deal, I'd be saying, he's very smart.

00:46:37.000 He's a clever guy.

00:46:38.000 Don't underestimate him, don't disrespect him, because I'm trying to win favor.

00:46:41.000 Zelensky doesn't seem to understand that. 1.00

00:46:42.000 You can hate Donald Trump, you can think he's the dumbest guy in the world, and you're about to ask him for a hundred billion dollars, you kiss his ass. 1.00

00:46:48.000 You get more fries with honey than you do with vinegar, right? 1.00

00:46:51.000 The whole of the left wants to see someone that actually threatens Putin, but then doesn't actually do anything.

00:46:59.000 They want the United States to talk the big talk, as opposed to speak softly and carry a big stick.

00:47:06.000 They want to speak loudly and then not actually do anything to back it up.

00:47:09.000 That was the way with Barack Obama.

00:47:12.000 That was the way with Joe Biden.

00:47:15.000 And they want Donald Trump to behave that way, and that's not...

00:47:18.000 How you enter these negotiations.

00:47:20.000 And real quick before I have to go here in a few, do you guys want to talk about a download of what was talked about and buried in all the lunacy and everything?

00:47:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:30.000 So the foreign policy thing, there's a couple of things especially of interest to all of us, but Darren Beatty is dismantling the whole censorship complex within the State Department, which is amazing.

00:47:41.000 Yeah, that was what was frustrating about yesterday is I had all these notes and I was ready to do this.

00:47:47.000 And Putin did come up in the briefing, and the briefing was just very, like, re-politic, real politic, which is, hey, do you guys not know that Russia has more tactical nukes than any other country?

00:48:03.000 And second to us, has more strategic news than anyone else.

00:48:06.000 And do you know that Russia's actually very close to China?

00:48:09.000 And that the closer that they get together, that means Russia has to intervene for China.

00:48:13.000 So if China invades Taiwan, then Russia kind of has to get involved because China can call the tune to that.

00:48:19.000 So maybe dealing with Putin as a rational actor, because this is a problem people have.

00:48:24.000 It's easy for us to say, Putin is like a bad guy.

00:48:27.000 Okay, great.

00:48:27.000 There's a lot of bad people in the world.

00:48:29.000 Whatever, right?

00:48:32.000 You still have to deal with them.

00:48:34.000 That's where this childishness comes in with a lot of people in left-wing media, and unfortunately in the right-wing media is, great, you can vent your spleen.

00:48:43.000 Because there was a lot of controversy about some people visiting the U.S. yesterday, and so I was like, thank God I missed that whole conversation because of this other nonsense.

00:48:51.000 But there's like, people just act like they can just pretend somebody doesn't exist, and then you can vanish them, which you can't do.

00:49:01.000 And then they act like a world leader is someone you can just ignore.

00:49:04.000 And they don't think about, okay, so what if Russia gets closer to China, then China moves on Taiwan, Russia, China's calling the tune, so maybe it would be better for us to deal with Russia in a more responsible way because then that could, we have a stronger interest in Taiwan than we do Ukraine.

00:49:21.000 So if you look at a rational foreign policy, you would say, okay, we'll get the minerals from Ukraine.

00:49:25.000 We'll tell Putin, hey, you can have these eastern places anyway.

00:49:29.000 They all spoke Russian.

00:49:30.000 They never even wanted to be part of Ukraine.

00:49:31.000 That's why I hate the whole Putin invaded.

00:49:34.000 Putin invaded places that were being bombed by the Azov Battalion, the Tornado Battalion, the militias were killing people who were ethnic Russian.

00:49:46.000 This was all documented, but then we've got to pretend like history started in 2022. So, as a foreign policy thing, the Trump world is very adult.

00:49:54.000 The adult is, is it going to make us safer, stronger, more prosperous?

00:49:59.000 That was like, and people can give us a talking point, you know, whatever.

00:50:02.000 Here's the talking points.

00:50:03.000 The foreign policy is, will it make us safer, stronger, and more prosperous?

00:50:09.000 So, is beefing with Putin going to make us safer?

00:50:12.000 How?

00:50:13.000 Is it going to make us more prosperous?

00:50:15.000 How?

00:50:15.000 Is it going to make us stronger?

00:50:17.000 How?

00:50:18.000 We're depleting our weapons stockpiles.

00:50:19.000 So, there is a logic to the foreign policy.

00:50:23.000 Where with the moralism, moralism is very nice.

00:50:25.000 We can all be moral purists all the time because we're all so holy and everybody else are the sinners.

00:50:29.000 We're so holy.

00:50:30.000 We're priests.

00:50:31.000 But Rubio and them, they're kind of just, we're going to be adults here.

00:50:35.000 And if this isn't going to make us safer, stronger, more prosperous, then we have to do something different.

00:50:41.000 You could argue that challenging another world power, if they become weaker, you...

00:50:45.000 De facto become more powerful just relative to the power structure.

00:50:49.000 But if you have to weaken yourself in order for them to become weakened, then you've got an opportunity cost you need to measure.

00:50:55.000 Well, it makes China stronger, though.

00:50:58.000 So if you diminish Russia, then Russia becomes more under the thumb of China, so then China becomes stronger. 0.88

00:51:05.000 Because it isn't like this is me and you in a boxing match, we both kind of beat each other up.

00:51:08.000 It's more like me and you are in a boxing match, and Rob is waiting, and he's like, okay, whoever's weaker now, I'm going to go.

00:51:14.000 Clean up.

00:51:15.000 I'm going to clean up.

00:51:16.000 Right.

00:51:17.000 It's a whole different ballgame.

00:51:19.000 As far as I can tell, 1989, Soviet Union falls.

00:51:22.000 The oligarchs that split it up decided, Sevastopol, Crimea is too dangerous to give to the Russian Federation because we've got to nullify their power.

00:51:29.000 We can't let them be the hegemon. 0.99

00:51:30.000 So we'll get to the Ukraine.

00:51:32.000 So Russia doesn't have Mediterranean seaport access, but there's still a bunch of Soviet Russian people living there.

00:51:37.000 20 years go by, 15 years go by, and apparently they're getting bombed by the Azov Battalion.

00:51:41.000 Is it like ethnic cleansing?

00:51:43.000 I don't know a lot about what led up to...

00:51:44.000 You can look all that up before it got scrubbed.

00:51:48.000 Pretty horrific stuff.

00:51:49.000 Well, the Ukraine stuff.

00:51:50.000 Yeah.

00:51:51.000 Well, it's very interesting because before, you know, we started waving the yellow and blue flags for Ukraine a couple of years ago when we had to launder hundreds of billions of dollars, there was even articles in mainstream news outlets like the New York Times, et cetera, about how corrupt Ukraine was, about how it was a hotbed of corruption in all kinds of ways. 0.67

00:52:08.000 And then, like you said, that stuff gets scrubbed, and so now, hey, let's all send hundreds of billions of dollars of our taxpayer money.

00:52:15.000 That is still there.

00:52:17.000 Before we started talking about this today, I would say in the past four to six months, you would just wake up sometimes and be like, oh my god, we're still sending money there.

00:52:23.000 You just read some news article about another $100 billion going there.

00:52:27.000 This thing is still going on.

00:52:29.000 What did Trump say?

00:52:30.000 $350 billion?

00:52:31.000 They cut off economic funding to rebuild their electrical grid.

00:52:35.000 Apparently every month they had to spend $100 billion to fix their grid or three weeks or two weeks or something.

00:52:41.000 How many Ukrainians have already fled the country?

00:52:42.000 Is that $20 million or some large number?

00:52:44.000 So the real story that you won't Dan Crenshaw, who I don't want to bash because I feel like everybody does, and I... Dan has done good work on psychedelic research with veteran suicide. 0.84

00:53:08.000 So for me, call me a sellout, but I handle the Dan situation with more delicacy than I would someone else.

00:53:14.000 I think he deserves a little bit more grace than a lot of people.

00:53:17.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:17.000 So I don't want to come off as bashing Dan because he really has done some good work and issues that really do matter.

00:53:23.000 However, when he went out with Glenn Greenwald on Piers Morgan...

00:53:28.000 And Dan was saying, oh, the fighting men and the war of attrition.

00:53:31.000 And it's like, no, no, 650,000 people fled Ukraine.

00:53:34.000 They had to kidnap people and force them to the front lines.

00:53:37.000 The people of Ukraine don't actually want to fight this war.

00:53:40.000 The men of Ukraine, they left. 0.72

00:53:42.000 And they left because Ukraine was a corrupt dump with no real economy. 0.97

00:53:47.000 So if you had any kind of vision or aspiration or enough money, you left.

00:53:52.000 So the tragedy of Ukraine...

00:53:54.000 And I've said this so many times, but for whatever reason people aren't smart enough to realize it.

00:53:59.000 The people who died in the war in Ukraine, spiritually I'm closer to them than I am to Zelensky.

00:54:04.000 Spiritually, they are closer to me than they are to Zelensky.

00:54:07.000 Because those are people like me, like Rob and other people who would be like, I care about my country, I'm going to rush to serve.

00:54:15.000 And that nationalistic fervor took over when if you knew the real game, the real game was ethnically cleanse our own good people.

00:54:24.000 The rich people can all leave.

00:54:25.000 And then when it's time to rebuild, we'll become oligarchs again.

00:54:29.000 I have a quick correction.

00:54:31.000 I said, how many have fled?

00:54:32.000 20 million.

00:54:33.000 Let me correct those numbers.

00:54:34.000 The numbers I confused was, since the end of the Soviet Union...

00:54:38.000 The population has declined 20 million.

00:54:40.000 That is the hard number.

00:54:41.000 Since the war started, it's 7 million.

00:54:44.000 7 million people fled the country.

00:54:45.000 Out of how many, do you know what the total population was?

00:54:48.000 So the numbers are, at the end of the Soviet Union, there was 52 million people.

00:54:52.000 As of this month, it's 32 million.

00:54:55.000 Oh, that's rough.

00:54:55.000 So they declined a total of 20 million since the fall.

00:54:59.000 But since the war started, they estimate 6.8 million Ukrainian refugees have fled the country.

00:55:04.000 And so let's think back to...

00:55:07.000 How controlled Twitter was, like how controlled social media was in the censorship world when this war first started.

00:55:13.000 Because I remember, you know, you would see all the CNN, the New York Times, all the mainstream media, just this story about what was happening over there that just wasn't true.

00:55:21.000 And I would just remember seeing sometimes videos of older men, like literally getting yanked off the street, shoved in the vans, being forced to fight when they obviously didn't want to fight this.

00:55:31.000 So there was a story that was being sold to America about what was happening over there that was completely false.

00:55:36.000 We know this.

00:55:37.000 Yeah, oh, they all wanted to go, and you looked, and the guys looked like me.

00:55:39.000 No, that guy didn't want to go.

00:55:41.000 And then the draft laws in Ukraine were being changed, where you couldn't draft people under 25, and they kept wanting to trade.

00:55:47.000 It's like, well, wait a minute.

00:55:48.000 Hold on a second.

00:55:49.000 If you're telling me the propaganda line that I hear from all these neocons and former leftists and all these people who I think are saboteurs actually working for intelligence agencies, if you tell me that...

00:56:03.000 The Ukrainian people want to fight the war, then they wouldn't have left the country and you wouldn't need a draft. 0.87

00:56:10.000 Right?

00:56:10.000 Because I can tell you right now that if we were invaded by China, I wouldn't leave.

00:56:16.000 I'm dying.

00:56:18.000 Right?

00:56:19.000 Well, so let's break down culturally why that is.

00:56:23.000 I know who our founding fathers are.

00:56:24.000 I know why we have reverence for them.

00:56:26.000 I know about the great leaders during the civil strife, bleeding Kansas, and civil war period that we have great reverence for.

00:56:33.000 I know why we have a constitution and the ethos that was born of this nation and born this nation.

00:56:38.000 I will fight for that.

00:56:39.000 If China landed a bunch of boats on the beaches of California, I'd say, what can I do?

00:56:44.000 Ukraine means borderlands.

00:56:46.000 And I mean no disrespect, because I have friends that are Ukrainian and they've fled the country already.

00:56:50.000 It was during the Soviet Union, they were for 69 years occupied, suppressed, oppressed.

00:56:56.000 Their thought leaders, their intellectuals were wiped out.

00:56:59.000 When a war breaks out and Russia invades...

00:57:01.000 I do know they have a history.

00:57:03.000 I do know many of them are proud of that history.

00:57:05.000 But it is dramatically different from the way we perceive the history of our country.

00:57:09.000 So when someone storms into your nation, and your history is, for nearly a hundred years we were beaten down by a large oppressive force that starved our people, kidnapped our people, disregarded our people, and called our home the borderland.

00:57:22.000 You don't have a tie to that.

00:57:24.000 You have a, we just need to get out and take care of ourselves.

00:57:27.000 The United States can keep supplying money.

00:57:31.000 Longer than the Ukrainian people can supply fighting people. 1.00

00:57:36.000 Like, you can literally kill, or the United States can literally fund more people than the Ukrainian has to go into the meat grinder. 0.99

00:57:44.000 They have to do something to end this war.

00:57:46.000 The question is, is Vladimir Putin, who is more likely to impose what we refer to as the Zep Brannigan military strategy of sending wave after wave of your own men to die until the enemy gives up?

00:58:00.000 That's Russian Tactics 101. That's Russia. 0.94

00:58:05.000 The big myth that we have in America is that America won World War II as Russian bodies won World War II. It was American steel and Russian blood that won.

00:58:15.000 I love the story of World War II. The Russians mass-produced garbage weapons, but a lot of them. 0.99

00:58:23.000 And so their weapons, notoriously, they break. 0.99

00:58:27.000 They notoriously...

00:58:29.000 Their guns are painful to use.

00:58:31.000 They bite.

00:58:31.000 They don't...

00:58:32.000 They're not particularly good.

00:58:33.000 They're cheap.

00:58:34.000 AKs are particularly effective. 0.81

00:58:35.000 And you had with Germany and the Axis powers, we want powerful, well-made, strong, sturdy weapons. 0.94

00:58:43.000 And Russia was like, don't care. 0.90

00:58:44.000 Give me a steel box with guns.

00:58:46.000 They're all going to freeze anyway.

00:58:48.000 Bring it.

00:58:49.000 Oh, yeah.

00:58:49.000 But the thing about...

00:58:50.000 That was like Soviet tactics was meat grinder, meat grinder.

00:58:53.000 I don't know if Russia's like that.

00:58:55.000 I don't know.

00:58:56.000 I don't think of them as Soviet at all.

00:58:58.000 Well, I mean, isn't that how they defeated Napoleon, too?

00:59:02.000 Russia is still an Eastern country, and the Eastern mindset is the way they see an individual life is different than Americans do.

00:59:11.000 I noticed that in all my travels.

00:59:14.000 We take it for granted.

00:59:17.000 Individualism is actually a very weird thing.

00:59:19.000 It isn't the norm.

00:59:20.000 The norm, especially in the East, which Russia is Asiatic. 0.96

00:59:25.000 We're the collective.

00:59:27.000 It's Mother Russia. 0.81

00:59:28.000 And you're dying for Mother Russia. 0.81

00:59:30.000 It's a whole different thing.

00:59:31.000 But the only way that I can, even though analogies have a lot of affairs, the only way that I can try to ever explain Ukraine to normie Americans is I go, there's parts in El Paso, Texas that are almost all Mexican, right?

00:59:44.000 No problem.

00:59:45.000 Okay. 1.00

00:59:46.000 Imagine we just allowed the KKK to start killing Mexicans. 0.98

00:59:51.000 I hope I don't get flagged, but it's a hypothetical. 0.96

00:59:53.000 But imagine we allowed that.

00:59:55.000 And then Mexico said, well, we're actually going to invade El Paso, Texas.

00:59:59.000 Well, who do you think the Mexican ancestry people are going to side with? 0.76

01:00:03.000 They're going to be like, oh, wow.

01:00:06.000 So Zelensky, if you go back and read, and this is where the steelman case for Zelensky is actually, and this is what I truly believe, the Nazi militias were going to kill him.

01:00:16.000 So he had to play ball in it, because if you look at what he ran under, he ran under peace with Russia. 0.58

01:00:20.000 He really did try to bring Azov to justice.

01:00:23.000 They put a lot of these tornado battalion peoples in prison.

01:00:26.000 They let them out once the war broke out, which was another thing that was suppressed in Western media.

01:00:30.000 And if you read the files, it was real horrific stuff that they were in for.

01:00:33.000 And people go, well, that's war.

01:00:34.000 And I was like, well, sure, but why don't we talk about that?

01:00:37.000 So it would...

01:00:38.000 My personal belief is that the oligarchs in Ukraine...

01:00:42.000 Said, look, we can get rid of all the patriotic Ukrainians, send them off to die on a lie, and once it's time to rebuild, we get all this Western money, we'll have all the money to rebuild, and then all the people who left that are on podcasts and talking stuff, they'll all be project managers with little construction hats on, and they'll become little miniature oligarchs. 0.98

01:01:03.000 But then we're the ones who are attacked.

01:01:06.000 For saying that, even though if you lay out that logic like that, nobody can refute it.

01:01:11.000 Literally nobody can refute that logic.

01:01:12.000 I think one of the things about the Soviet Union and war was that they had bodies like Ukrainians, where they could just dump wave after wave of their own men. 0.98

01:01:20.000 So I guess the question now is, although it does appear to be the Russian strategy of we'll just throw as many men as possible until we win, Ukraine might actually have the edge on that, considering...

01:01:32.000 The people who wanted to live and didn't want to fight fled.

01:01:35.000 And the country is literally just capturing elderly men and women to force them to the front lines. 0.94

01:01:41.000 Zelensky is completely willing to sacrifice elderly men and women to force them to the front lines in a way that I don't know that Putin actually could maintain.

01:01:50.000 And Putin's had to call in allies.

01:01:52.000 He's working with China.

01:01:52.000 He's working with North Korea to bring in more troops.

01:01:54.000 I think...

01:01:55.000 First of all, it's obvious.

01:01:57.000 Without the U.S. support, if Trump says, you know what, we're done...

01:01:59.000 The war's over instantly.

01:02:01.000 Instantly.

01:02:01.000 But if we want to keep this fight up, the important point made is, it's not my opinion, other people deserve credit for this, is these people cheering on the war, these pro-war podcasts, they're basically saying, thank God we can sacrifice the Ukrainian lives so that they'll fight Putin and hurt him a little bit.

01:02:17.000 I mean, just for information, Ukraine's population is estimated at 38,980,000.

01:02:27.000 38 million, you mean?

01:02:27.000 Yeah, 38 million.

01:02:29.000 Russia's 143,997,000.

01:02:32.000 So, I mean, the number of Russians versus the number of Ukrainians is just...

01:02:37.000 I mean, the numbers just don't work for Ukraine.

01:02:40.000 I guess my point is I don't know that Putin would take a 20-year-old woman to go force him to fight.

01:02:46.000 No, he wouldn't, but he's using the working-class conscripts. 0.58

01:02:49.000 I mean, the way to criticize Putin is that...

01:02:54.000 He hasn't tapped into the rich kids of Moscow yet, or even the middle class, and that's what he's trying to avoid.

01:03:00.000 So if you're Dan Crenshaw and you wanted to actually make a better, more coherent point, instead of yelling at Glenn Greenwald...

01:03:07.000 You would just say, look, Putin, if he has to tap in to the middle class kids and not the people who are in the caucus region and just poor farm kids, then he would face a lot of political pressure and maybe assassination pressure in Moscow.

01:03:20.000 And that's a case to be made, but they don't even make that because I can think about these issues better than they can, which is unfortunate.

01:03:26.000 And let's not forget that one of the things that Zelensky wanted, he wants American troops to get involved.

01:03:32.000 He does.

01:03:32.000 That's what he really wants.

01:03:33.000 And he's been pushing for that, and I was actually shocked.

01:03:36.000 That he didn't get it from Biden as weak as that administration was.

01:03:39.000 But that's what he wants, which would basically end up in World War III, which nobody wants, right?

01:03:45.000 This withdrawing funding to their electric grid is a big deal.

01:03:50.000 So we fund their military, and then next to that, the next most we spend on that country is rebuilding every two weeks their electric grid.

01:03:56.000 We fund their pensions.

01:03:57.000 We fund their teachers.

01:03:59.000 No, no, if you look at the numbers, we fund the whole entire country.

01:04:03.000 I've been reading a lot of propaganda today about it, but some people are saying Zelensky's out.

01:04:07.000 He's done.

01:04:07.000 He's got two weeks left.

01:04:09.000 I don't know what you guys, if you've even thought of that far.

01:04:12.000 Rick Grinnell retweeted something from somebody, and they said something to the effect that they wanted Zelensky to stand out.

01:04:19.000 They wanted him to stand down.

01:04:21.000 I think that they wanted Zelensky to impeach.

01:04:23.000 They're done with it.

01:04:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:24.000 One of his political opponents from jail made a video like, can we please impeach this guy?

01:04:29.000 You guys see now?

01:04:30.000 The emperor has no clothes.

01:04:31.000 All right, guys.

01:04:31.000 I've got to go to the party.

01:04:32.000 Any questions about yesterday news or anything?

01:04:36.000 Favorite color?

01:04:38.000 We've shown the coins, right?

01:04:39.000 Michael Cernovich.

01:04:40.000 Thanks for hanging out.

01:04:41.000 It was our pleasure.

01:04:43.000 I look forward to seeing you guys there on Air Force One.

01:04:47.000 I will not be jealous at all.

01:04:48.000 I'll be really happy.

01:04:48.000 Tim Castile, live from Air Force One, or Two, whichever.

01:04:52.000 Sounds great.

01:04:52.000 It's going to happen.

01:04:53.000 All right, thank you, everybody.

01:04:54.000 Thanks for hanging out.

01:04:54.000 Hey, thanks, Mike.

01:04:55.000 Cheers, guys.

01:04:57.000 Well, we've solved all the world's problems, as we often do.

01:04:59.000 There's hunger no longer.

01:05:00.000 There's cigars, there's party, there's loud noises.

01:05:03.000 So what happens?

01:05:04.000 White peace in Russia. 0.91

01:05:05.000 This is inevitably what I see it coming down to, is them just establishing, like, you know what?

01:05:08.000 War's over. 0.58

01:05:09.000 Whoever has what, you keep it.

01:05:11.000 We're taking the minerals.

01:05:12.000 And Zelensky can do nothing except for stage a rebellion.

01:05:16.000 And then become the enemy of all, which would get him killed off immediately, I would think.

01:05:21.000 I think it's getting very obvious right now that everybody is tired of this, except for maybe Zelensky.

01:05:27.000 Trump wants it over.

01:05:29.000 Vance wants it over.

01:05:30.000 We're tired of this.

01:05:31.000 I don't even feel the fervor and the excitement for all of this stuff, even from the usual left-wing hacks.

01:05:38.000 Or even some of the Republican hacks that are saying, we have to stand with Ukraine.

01:05:43.000 It's just that their heart doesn't seem in it anymore.

01:05:45.000 Let's jump to the story from the Post Millennial.

01:05:48.000 Washington Post staffers quits.

01:05:50.000 You can't actually see it on the screen, but it's okay.

01:05:51.000 Rebel against Bezos.

01:05:53.000 New mission for opinion section.

01:05:55.000 For those that didn't hear this story, it's amazing.

01:05:56.000 Bezos said the opinion section is now going to be about personal liberties and free markets.

01:06:01.000 And the communists who work for the Washington Post threw a tantrum and stormed out.

01:06:05.000 This is amazing.

01:06:06.000 We were just hanging out with Mike Cernovich, who was basically saying, what we saw yesterday, by all means, everybody's mad at these influencers for whatever reason.

01:06:12.000 Not everybody, but a lot of people.

01:06:13.000 The White House decided to bring in prominent personalities instead of the corporate press to break a major story.

01:06:18.000 Whatever you think, this is a major change in how the government has handled media in the past.

01:06:23.000 And with this administration, we are going to see more transparency and independent voices getting access to government.

01:06:30.000 This is amazing.

01:06:31.000 Now, the Washington Post, under Bezos, is being told personal liberties and free market.

01:06:35.000 The communist woke stuff is out.

01:06:37.000 When these people rebel and quit...

01:06:40.000 I can only say thank you for leaving.

01:06:42.000 No, please.

01:06:43.000 So, thank you for quitting.

01:06:45.000 And honestly, okay, so look, my degree is in journalism from Columbia, right?

01:06:49.000 I got my master's in Columbia.

01:06:50.000 And I think that people have no idea.

01:06:52.000 We think that we know that these people are whiny libs and leptists or whatever.

01:06:56.000 There is this entire pipeline in mainstream media of these people.

01:06:59.000 Even to when I was at Columbia and I was not even conservative at that point.

01:07:04.000 I was kind of like independent asking questions because, surprise, surprise, I thought that's what you were supposed to do.

01:07:09.000 In a J-School master's program, right?

01:07:12.000 And the looks that I would get when you would just ask basic questions about immigration, etc., things that you weren't supposed to ask.

01:07:19.000 And people do not understand that these people are literally taken from, you know, your Columbias, your Northwesterns, wherever, and they are in all of these newsrooms across the country.

01:07:29.000 They are not curious.

01:07:31.000 They don't see their job as journalists as to ask questions.

01:07:34.000 Their job is to promote the liberal propaganda that they were born and raised with.

01:07:40.000 And so, yes, they're doing us all a favor to quit because I believe in journalism.

01:07:46.000 I believe in legacy media pieces.

01:07:48.000 They need to be saved.

01:07:49.000 And I think that Bezos is trying to save the Washington Post.

01:07:51.000 But, yeah, those people are doing us all a favor when they reveal themselves and they exit stage right.

01:07:58.000 I think so, too.

01:07:59.000 I'm glad to see it.

01:08:00.000 I mean, I don't know technically the insides, but it sounds like, yeah, get out.

01:08:06.000 Change the diet of the system, a bunch of the parasites flee the system.

01:08:09.000 If I'm not mistaken, Tim, you started out in the mainstream world, right?

01:08:13.000 Not necessarily.

01:08:15.000 The first media I started doing was just activists on the ground live streaming.

01:08:18.000 Okay.

01:08:19.000 So I was doing live mobile streaming, and it's really crazy how nobody does this anymore.

01:08:24.000 Very few people do that on the ground reporting.

01:08:26.000 And then for about a year and a half.

01:08:28.000 Yeah.

01:08:29.000 And actually, I would say it's almost two years.

01:08:31.000 And then I went to Vice.

01:08:33.000 Vice was independent at the time.

01:08:35.000 And then like a month after I joined them, Fox had bought a big investment, so I was kind of like, I rolled my eyes.

01:08:40.000 And then from there, I did join an ABC News joint venture and actually worked out of the ABC News building in New York.

01:08:46.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:08:47.000 And oh boy, all the stories are true.

01:08:49.000 Yeah, they're all true.

01:08:50.000 How the mainstream media operates, the instruction, golden handcuffs.

01:08:56.000 So, one example I like to give is how they had a presidential debate forum.

01:09:00.000 They told me I was too white to be involved, despite the fact that I'm a mixed race, as everybody knows.

01:09:06.000 It's a trope.

01:09:07.000 It's a meme.

01:09:08.000 And I was denied that for the way I looked.

01:09:11.000 That was the welcome to the corporate press.

01:09:13.000 It's all true.

01:09:13.000 And the weird thing about me, even as somebody being the black guy that was out here doing all this, but I wasn't the black guy that thought the way that you were supposed to think.

01:09:22.000 So they will talk about how diverse the press corps, like their little White House beat reporters or their press corps or whatever, they're all diverse and they're white and they're black and they're Asian and they're Latino and they're biracial and all these different things.

01:09:33.000 But they are just all liberals.

01:09:35.000 And they all basically toe that line.

01:09:38.000 That's why independent media is ascending.

01:09:41.000 Mainstream media is kind of dying.

01:09:43.000 I mean, it's dying to slow death.

01:09:44.000 I believe that at this point right now, it is the undead.

01:09:48.000 It is the undead.

01:09:49.000 It's the walking dead.

01:09:49.000 Well, I mean, look, it's MSNBC making money off zombie carriage fees.

01:09:54.000 And they're realizing it's not going to last.

01:09:55.000 But I do warn people, these liberal podcasters are gaining tremendous traction.

01:10:00.000 In fact, there was a period where, I think over the past week...

01:10:03.000 The number one podcast in the world actually was a liberal anti-Trump podcast that surpassed Rogan briefly.

01:10:09.000 What I will say about that is that now that they know that independent media is ascending, they will put corporate dollars and DIMM dollars and all of that stuff.

01:10:20.000 They will fund these people to the level that if you're a conservative or Republican, independent journalist or whatever, you couldn't dream of getting the kind of support that they're going to be giving to these guys.

01:10:31.000 I love this.

01:10:32.000 When I'm talking to, like, the Majority Report people, and they keep running this narrative that we get behind-the-scenes corporate money and things like this.

01:10:40.000 And I told this to Cenk Uygur.

01:10:41.000 I said, we've sold ads.

01:10:44.000 And everybody listening, okay, this is it.

01:10:46.000 We're a big podcast.

01:10:48.000 I think we, yesterday, we were the seventh biggest live show in the world and, simultaneously, the 26th biggest because we're on Rumble and YouTube.

01:10:57.000 If you combine them both, we were number two.

01:10:59.000 We've been able to sell ads for $50,000 for one read.

01:11:03.000 That's not typical, it's not common, but sometimes you can make that money.

01:11:07.000 What do we do with it?

01:11:08.000 We do field events like this, which are expensive and difficult.

01:11:11.000 We try and invest in community building.

01:11:13.000 It's not about getting wealthy off this.

01:11:15.000 but we are not getting secret corporate billionaire dollars from industrialists by the scenes.

01:11:22.000 It's a lie they have to maintain to discredit us.

01:11:24.000 And so when they say, why aren't we doing well?

01:11:27.000 Well, it's actually quite simple.

01:11:28.000 They are bad at business.

01:11:30.000 And I said that to Cenk Uygur when he was like, we don't get these ad dollars.

01:11:35.000 And I was like, then you're bad at business.

01:11:36.000 He goes, no, we're not.

01:11:37.000 And I'm like, clearly you are.

01:11:39.000 We do standard sales through corporations that have ad offices in New York City.

01:11:44.000 We're not doing anything special.

01:11:45.000 There's no secret meeting at TPUSA where Charlie Kirk brings in the head of ExxonMobil to fund any of this stuff.

01:11:50.000 That's not true.

01:11:51.000 So what we're going to see now, and I bring this up to say, in defense of many of these liberals, they are not, as much as David Pakman liked to run this segment where he claimed I, along with Milo, were accusing him of getting USAID money.

01:12:04.000 I never said that.

01:12:05.000 No, I think they're making money off of clickbait political content that the people want and are looking for new venues to find it.

01:12:12.000 And they're making a lot of money off programmatic ads and default sales, but they don't know how to run a media business the way meritocratically developed individuals do.

01:12:21.000 So on the right, which includes liberals at this point, post-liberals and distracted liberals, you have people who built from the ground up, and largely on the left, you have a Democrat nonprofit bought ads.

01:12:37.000 I'm not going to get specific, but you have a lot of political funding.

01:12:41.000 And I'm not trying to accuse them of doing anything untoward, but a lot of the activist media...

01:12:46.000 Take a look at Media Matters.

01:12:49.000 This is not organically grown meritocratic individuals.

01:12:52.000 This is political power.

01:12:54.000 It's all propped up.

01:12:55.000 It's all propped up.

01:12:56.000 And they're doing this thing now where they will find these dim influencers that they're trying to prop a lot of money into, but then they connect them to mainstream media stuff.

01:13:06.000 What is CBS this morning doing a segment on some dim influencers on TikTok?

01:13:13.000 It's not organic.

01:13:14.000 It's not real.

01:13:14.000 I got ya.

01:13:15.000 Caitlin Collins reportedly makes $3 million a year.

01:13:18.000 - Oh my god. 0.93

01:13:19.000 - Ridiculous. - And Daily Caller. - Daily Caller. - Does anybody who works in this space, I'm not going to rag on the lady. 1.00

01:13:27.000 Don Lemon's a good example.

01:13:28.000 I'm just going to bring him up, please.

01:13:30.000 He's got half a million subscribers on YouTube.

01:13:31.000 More power to him.

01:13:32.000 He gets maybe like 10,000 to 30,000 per video.

01:13:34.000 That's not bad for a small, entry-level podcaster who's been in the space for a few years.

01:13:39.000 Don Lemon was an anchor.

01:13:41.000 Prime time on CNN for, what, a decade plus?

01:13:44.000 A decade plus.

01:13:45.000 He did not have the talent nor the merit to be in such a position.

01:13:48.000 He was placed there, and his notoriety was gifted to him from a pedestal.

01:13:53.000 Whereas in the independent media space, most of the personalities you see built it from the ground up slowly over time.

01:13:59.000 It is no mystery.

01:14:03.000 Why CatTurd, of all people on X, built a big following, it's not because someone came to him and said, we have a plan.

01:14:09.000 We're going to give you a million dollars to make a profile called CatTurd.

01:14:12.000 No.

01:14:12.000 It's a guy with opinions.

01:14:14.000 Who every day watched the news, voiced his opinions, built up a following, and became prominent through merit.

01:14:19.000 It's worth noting that a lot of the people that are on the left, that the left seems to be trying to lift up people like Hassan Piker, who just again today was calling for the death of a public figure.

01:14:30.000 Whoa, what?

01:14:31.000 He straight up said, he made a remark about Rick Scott, and said someone should... 1.00

01:14:39.000 Should kill him. 1.00

01:14:40.000 Wow. 1.00

01:14:41.000 There's also people like...

01:14:43.000 In a video game, I'm sure.

01:14:45.000 He didn't caveat it?

01:14:47.000 There was no caveat.

01:14:48.000 It was a straight-up calling for someone to do something.

01:14:52.000 And that's not odd on the left anymore.

01:14:54.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:14:56.000 Numerous corporate press outlets have advocated for and directed their audiences to follow these people.

01:15:02.000 Yeah.

01:15:03.000 There are some individuals on the left that I don't want to drag because they're not abject evil.

01:15:09.000 I will.

01:15:09.000 They're just liberals.

01:15:10.000 But the New York Times has run stories saying the new Joe Rogan and things like this.

01:15:15.000 And then these people from these stories get a million subs overnight and instantly become millionaires through the institutions empowering them.

01:15:23.000 And then it's not real.

01:15:25.000 And to be fair, I'm not saying that every liberal ever has no merit and did not build their channel.

01:15:30.000 I'm saying the tendency for the establishment left has been...

01:15:35.000 Powerful voices were propped up by a corporate institution and on this side in spite of censorship we have clawed our way to our position.

01:15:44.000 You brought up Don Lemon earlier, and I want to get back to that because he is the most pure example of somebody who literally does not know who he is when there's not a team of producers and a team of executives propping him up.

01:15:55.000 He had the biggest platform for a decade plus.

01:15:58.000 He's flailing on digital media.

01:16:00.000 He's attacking Megyn Kelly.

01:16:02.000 He's running up to people.

01:16:04.000 I saw some video of him running up to people on a subway train with doctored photos of himself.

01:16:08.000 And so this person has no idea who he is outside of a news set, outside.

01:16:14.000 I was talking to a producer.

01:16:16.000 I will not name the network.

01:16:17.000 I will not name the show.

01:16:18.000 But this producer was talking about a particular person that is talking about, well, I don't like how this script is.

01:16:24.000 Well, bro, write it yourself.

01:16:27.000 And so a lot of these people are so propped up, they are struggling in this space because they have not figured out who they are.

01:16:35.000 Fundamentally.

01:16:35.000 Not figured out who they are.

01:16:37.000 Not had to do the hard work to figure that out.

01:16:39.000 You've got to become a producer.

01:16:43.000 Megan Kelly leaves network television.

01:16:46.000 She leaves Fox.

01:16:46.000 She tries to go to NBC. They fire her for the stupidest reason imaginable.

01:16:50.000 It was ridiculous. 1.00

01:16:51.000 She starts her own podcast, her own channel.

01:16:53.000 She has three and a half million subscribers on YouTube.

01:16:57.000 She has one of the top ten podcasts in the world.

01:16:59.000 She routinely gets hundreds of thousands of views.

01:17:02.000 That looks like somebody with wit and merit.

01:17:05.000 Who deserved to be in a talent position, who proved it on their own after the fact.

01:17:09.000 And the thing that I love about Megyn Kelly in her show is that it's journalism.

01:17:14.000 You know what Megyn Kelly thinks about things when she decides that she wants to go for it. 1.00

01:17:18.000 You know what she feels about men and women in sports, right?

01:17:20.000 Like biological men, like that whole thing.

01:17:22.000 You know what she feels about that.

01:17:23.000 You know that she felt strongly enough about Trump to go to that rally.

01:17:26.000 But 90% of the show is actual legitimate journalism.

01:17:30.000 It's actual questions about what's going on.

01:17:32.000 It's bringing people on that.

01:17:34.000 We're actual experts, and there is news value in that.

01:17:37.000 There's value in that to the listener.

01:17:40.000 Look, my podcast is a lot of off-the-cuff stuff about what I think, but I'm even transitioning that to do a little bit more news because that is what is of value to the viewer.

01:17:50.000 I think that Megyn Kelly probably wouldn't be as extremely successful as she is if it was just, hey, I'm Megyn, and this is what I think every single day, right?

01:17:58.000 So she works hard at it.

01:17:59.000 I used to think that was who she was in 2008, 2009. I was like, oh, she's a warmonger.

01:18:03.000 Get her out of here. 1.00

01:18:04.000 She's just another Hannity. 1.00

01:18:05.000 But then, you know, people evolve drastically.

01:18:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:18:08.000 Do you still find yourself watching...

01:18:11.000 This, like, the, whatever you call the mass media, the MSNBC, CM, do you watch it?

01:18:16.000 Watch the ship go down?

01:18:17.000 Are you, like, watching it?

01:18:18.000 You know, I try not to.

01:18:19.000 I definitely delighted when, you know, Joy Reid got canned earlier this week.

01:18:23.000 That was wonderful because that was, like, literally one of the most hateful people on cable news.

01:18:28.000 And seeing her downfall has been quite delightful.

01:18:31.000 And, you know, I made a tweet a couple of weeks ago that I was in some hotel room.

01:18:35.000 I was somewhere traveling to go do something.

01:18:37.000 The MSNBC was on.

01:18:38.000 I think the guy at 8 p.m., Chris Hayes.

01:18:41.000 Thank you.

01:18:41.000 And he was freaking out about whatever was going on in DC that day.

01:18:45.000 And I was like, I'm watching this show.

01:18:47.000 And everything that Chris Hayes is freaking out about are things that I think are just incredible.

01:18:51.000 Are things that I'm like, this is a highlight reel of every awesome, incredible thing that happened today.

01:18:57.000 So I do watch some of this stuff because I do want to know where the conversation is.

01:19:02.000 Because you have to know where their minds are at.

01:19:04.000 And I hope that they just do not get the memo about this stuff until at least after the next election.

01:19:08.000 I was kind of glad to hear that that, in a way, that that podcast, what was it called?

01:19:13.000 The biggest podcast on Earth last week?

01:19:15.000 Eclipse Rogan for a moment.

01:19:16.000 What was it called?

01:19:17.000 Midas Touch.

01:19:18.000 It's a pressure valve.

01:19:19.000 We used to talk about this show.

01:19:20.000 It's a pressure valve for the people that are being suppressed by the media.

01:19:24.000 So now it's like the whole situation's been flipped around.

01:19:26.000 You see MSNBC going down, Joy Reid's canned.

01:19:29.000 There needs to still be a pressure valve for those people.

01:19:31.000 I'll go on Facebook and the rage and just complete...

01:19:35.000 Oh, man.

01:19:36.000 Utter insanity that people are going through right now?

01:19:38.000 Is Facebook just liberal?

01:19:39.000 No.

01:19:39.000 Oh, no, no.

01:19:40.000 Okay, so here's the thing about Meta and Facebook.

01:19:42.000 So I got a Facebook page with like 600,000 followers or something like that, and I put a steady stream of content every single day.

01:19:49.000 And this is what I say about Facebook.

01:19:51.000 Facebook is like the Fox News of the internet for me, because all of those people, I used to do a lot of Fox, I still love Fox, used to do a lot of hits back in the day.

01:20:00.000 I'm focusing energy on doing more things right now, but I do a lot of content on Facebook Meta, and All those people that are those older, we'll say 45 to 50 plus older conservative people, a lot of those people find me on Facebook.

01:20:15.000 And they love the reaction videos to the Trump and Zelensky stuff today, the Joy Reid stuff, they love that stuff.

01:20:21.000 But I do get a lot of libs that find that page, and a lot of libs find me on Instagram.

01:20:27.000 I don't even read the comments on Instagram anymore, because they are so impotent right now.

01:20:34.000 These people have literally zero power.

01:20:36.000 They have no power in D.C. The power, even in the mainstream media, is waning, so all they can do is just scream.

01:20:44.000 Yeah, that's what concerns me.

01:20:46.000 If people feel completely powerless, they become desperate, and desperate people can become violent.

01:20:51.000 So I want people to still feel like they're influenced, that they have some impact, that their voices are still being heard.

01:20:56.000 There are, there will be, as I think you were pointing out just a moment ago, Rob.

01:21:01.000 The corporate media dumping as much money as possible into these personalities.

01:21:06.000 Because cable is done.

01:21:07.000 Donald Trump just won.

01:21:09.000 And they're not going to go quietly into that goodnight.

01:21:12.000 The DNC has no frontline talent.

01:21:16.000 They're not just going to give up.

01:21:17.000 So we have routed the Marxists and the woke and the neoliberal establishment.

01:21:23.000 But they're not gone.

01:21:26.000 Donald Trump's actions in the government and Elon Musk's...

01:21:29.000 Efforts with Doge largely is to gut their resource centers.

01:21:33.000 But we're still going to see it takes only a few million dollars.

01:21:37.000 This is what I warned last year when we were talking about these podcasters.

01:21:41.000 You've got Rachel Maddow getting $25 million a year on a show that gets, like, what, $100,000 in the key demo? 1.00

01:21:48.000 If she's lucky.

01:21:49.000 Yeah.

01:21:50.000 So I can tell you how much money she's going to get off that. 1.00

01:21:52.000 She's going to sell $100,000. 0.81

01:21:54.000 I think you can muster up a couple grand in an ad sale for that one.

01:21:57.000 So based on podcast sales, if it's an hour-long show, she might be able to do $5,000, $6,000.

01:22:04.000 Maybe on the high end, if you do a premium CPM, maybe $10,000.

01:22:07.000 But is that going to cover $25 million salary?

01:22:09.000 Ain't no way.

01:22:10.000 There is some money still in the fact that she gets a couple million from the elderly population.

01:22:14.000 And I mean no disrespect to say that.

01:22:15.000 But those ads only go so far.

01:22:17.000 We're talking about reverse mortgages.

01:22:18.000 Again, not being disrespectful.

01:22:20.000 This is largely what's being advertised to the elderlies.

01:22:22.000 It's things like reverse mortgages.

01:22:24.000 There's going to come a point where they say, hey, look, we've got $100 million left over, and Rachel Maddow's reaching no one.

01:22:30.000 They're going to open up YouTube and be like, hey, this guy's getting 30 million views per month.

01:22:35.000 What if we put his face on a billboard in every major city for $10 million and paid him $5 million cash to say what we want him to say?

01:22:42.000 That podcast is going to say, yes, sir, tell me how high to jump.

01:22:46.000 They're going to put their face on every major city.

01:22:48.000 They're going to start telling all of the young people.

01:22:51.000 One of the issues that I've been talking about quite a bit with everybody in the industry is ask yourself the question of why people listen to Bill Maher.

01:22:59.000 Is it particularly relevant?

01:23:00.000 No.

01:23:01.000 Is he having conversations with people that are insightful? 0.90

01:23:05.000 I'm not trying to be a dick, but no.

01:23:07.000 I think he recently said he wasn't doing stand-up anymore.

01:23:10.000 He's largely out of the conversation.

01:23:12.000 He's still in it, but he was three years behind Dennis Prager, which was shockingly embarrassing.

01:23:18.000 And so I know that if I have a conversation with him, I'm going to be saying, Bill, that happened five years ago.

01:23:24.000 You missed this story.

01:23:26.000 But you ask yourself why it is the corporate press is still so interested in his name, his narrative, and it's celebrity and ubiquity.

01:23:34.000 The way they've been able to accomplish this is using what we would call a premium brand.

01:23:39.000 Vice was very good at this.

01:23:41.000 I'm not going to get into the whole ad rights distribution, but let's just say...

01:23:45.000 When you have a premium brand, it means people recognize it, whether it's actually on their TV or not.

01:23:51.000 So, you say Bill Maher?

01:23:53.000 People say, I've heard of him.

01:23:54.000 They probably never watch him.

01:23:55.000 Most people don't.

01:23:56.000 I think his ratings are about 800,000 in total per week.

01:24:00.000 But people know the name.

01:24:01.000 That means the corporate press, advertisers are going to say, well, at least they know this name, we'll buy it.

01:24:08.000 Because it's what we can think of.

01:24:10.000 Our side of things.

01:24:11.000 The independent media does not recognize this yet.

01:24:14.000 And they need to.

01:24:14.000 There's a reason why CNN was buying billboards all over the country for as long as they did with Anderson Cooper's face on it.

01:24:21.000 So that the average person would just say, yeah, I know him.

01:24:23.000 He's the news guy.

01:24:24.000 Yes.

01:24:25.000 And they would say the most trusted name in news over and over and over again so that people would believe it because they're passive.

01:24:30.000 What's going to happen?

01:24:31.000 I'll tell you what we're doing.

01:24:33.000 We're working on billboard campaigns.

01:24:34.000 We did this two years ago because we want to steal that from the institutions.

01:24:38.000 That's what we bought in Times Square.

01:24:40.000 If we do not, and I honestly don't know why people aren't doing it, democratic power structures are going to say, give us a list of 10 prominent liberal podcasters of any size, and we're going to spend $20 million.

01:24:53.000 That's a pittance compared to what these powerful creepos have.

01:24:58.000 Some billionaires, people like to talk about George Soros, they're going to say, Let's spend $20 million and see what our return is if we make these people ubiquitous.

01:25:05.000 The goal will be a 16-year-old kid who's entering the political space, who is, he reads a lot, and he's charismatic, and he says, I want to be a personality.

01:25:16.000 In his mind, he will say, clearly, the path to victory is a liberal podcaster because they're everywhere.

01:25:22.000 They're on TV, they're on the billboards, they're in the skywriting campaigns.

01:25:25.000 how do I get to that level where everyone knows my name too?

01:25:28.000 It's going to be fabricated through infrastructure designed to win politics. 0.69

01:25:33.000 Meanwhile, the independent element is largely just playing this game of share my show and I hope people hear about my name.

01:25:40.000 And so that's where we're at.

01:25:41.000 So what I can tell you is the cost of outdoor ads has dropped dramatically because manufacturers and product companies like to do direct sales.

01:25:49.000 This means that the typical marketing spaces of Ubiquiti, billboards along highways or in cities have become ridiculously cheap to the point.

01:25:59.000 Where you can buy a couple dozen major 100-foot tall to 30-foot tall billboards for about $80,000 for six months.

01:26:09.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:26:11.000 So, obviously $80,000 is a lot of money, right?

01:26:13.000 Yeah.

01:26:13.000 But if you're a media company on the right, and you're thinking about, okay, so how much for one month then, for like $10,000, you can have 20 billboards across a major city.

01:26:25.000 Let's say, let's do...

01:26:28.000 New York would be a good one.

01:26:30.000 New York is way too expensive.

01:26:31.000 Boston.

01:26:31.000 So Times Square is actually not as expensive as people think.

01:26:35.000 We bought the entire North Tower on New Year's.

01:26:39.000 It was two weeks in December until New Year's Eve.

01:26:42.000 So on New Year's 2023, the entire North Tower, except for two billboards, which is owned by M&M and Coke, said Timcast, all synchronized at once with all of our shows, and it was $200,000.

01:26:54.000 And so, what we wanted, we bought a handful of ads that year.

01:26:58.000 One was a 45-foot tall static billboard, meaning it's physical material, above the Today Show.

01:27:05.000 So that every single journalist, every day as they walk into that building, they see my face above them.

01:27:10.000 We want to, we need to make sure everybody sees and everybody knows.

01:27:14.000 And the response was invaluable.

01:27:16.000 Can we directly track whether or not more people watch the show because of it?

01:27:21.000 I honestly don't know.

01:27:21.000 What I can tell you is...

01:27:23.000 I was inundated with people sharing links with me from liberal podcasters and social media where they were freaking out at the fact that Timcast IRL was on a 100-foot-tall billboard in downtown Chicago on the side of a skyscraper.

01:27:38.000 That in Times Square, the entire North Tower said Timcast.

01:27:41.000 It was a statement for all of these people to recognize we are taking the space over.

01:27:47.000 It was for advertisers.

01:27:49.000 You do it in Times Square because you want the big advertisers to see your brand and say, that looks big, so that when, as I mentioned, the premium brand value of, say, Bill Maher, which he does have, we need to associate with our side of things.

01:28:02.000 If we do not, the DNC's power structures are going to take people like, well, I'm not going to name anybody, I don't want to give anybody the airtime, but some of these big shows, they're going to prop them up, and they're going to start putting out metrics saying, Joe Rogan's not the biggest anymore.

01:28:17.000 Midas Touch is.

01:28:18.000 You might have already answered my question because I'm like, what's the next phase of war?

01:28:22.000 And what I mean by in this instance of war is like the war being put, the co-opt of the American Republic by the business establishment, by this swamp.

01:28:32.000 What's the next phase of the swamp monster?

01:28:34.000 Because you're right.

01:28:35.000 There's a route.

01:28:37.000 People are currently scattering in every direction with no idea what's coming next.

01:28:41.000 They just want to survive.

01:28:43.000 Then they're going to regroup.

01:28:44.000 So we're in a fortification stage right now.

01:28:47.000 No, they're not fortifying it.

01:28:48.000 No, no, no.

01:28:49.000 I'd say the people that have taken the hill are now in a fortification stage.

01:28:53.000 So what's the fortification process?

01:28:54.000 You're saying buy billboards, get the ground.

01:28:56.000 So I believe the next major move of the establishment, deep state bureaucrats, they know that they're losing the culture war.

01:29:04.000 They know that Bud Light was a disaster.

01:29:06.000 They know that Target was a disaster.

01:29:08.000 Disney lost a billion dollars a disaster.

01:29:10.000 Culturally, they've been crushed, and they need to exert cultural dominance on the institutions.

01:29:16.000 Losing this battle through independent media, through merit, is shocking, but it's largely because the structures they tried to maintain for the narrative are failing.

01:29:27.000 Television and newspapers are no longer the principal way people consume information.

01:29:32.000 They neglected this.

01:29:34.000 When you see people like David Pakman and Kyle Kalinske and Brian Tyler Cohen, big liberal podcasters, complaining that they're not getting the big advertisers and the Democrats aren't supporting them, They are not wrong.

01:29:47.000 These people have built big channels, they have big followers, they make millions of dollars.

01:29:50.000 But they're not getting political institutional support.

01:29:53.000 They're angry about it.

01:29:55.000 The institutional support was still going to MSNBC, where the intel officers were routine guests, going to the newspapers.

01:30:02.000 The intel people weren't going to liberal podcasters and saying, we're going to let you break this story.

01:30:08.000 So you can reach 3 million subscribers.

01:30:10.000 They were like, we're going to go to the Washington Post.

01:30:12.000 So guess what?

01:30:12.000 Nobody read it.

01:30:13.000 So as people were migrating to independent platforms, Joe Rogan took over.

01:30:18.000 Whether on purpose or otherwise, it was easy to access, it was authentic, and it was available.

01:30:22.000 It was right there in front of you, right when you open your podcast thing.

01:30:26.000 And Joe was an honest guy.

01:30:27.000 So when he had a real conversation, he didn't entertain the lies from the intelligence agencies or the establishment.

01:30:32.000 The next move they have to make is recognizing how they lost that battle and buying it back.

01:30:37.000 And they can buy us over ten times.

01:30:40.000 They can.

01:30:41.000 Absolutely.

01:30:42.000 And that's why I've been warning for the past year, we need absolute control of the media infrastructure.

01:30:49.000 It's great that Bezos is saying opinion section is going to change.

01:30:54.000 He's recognizing the messaging failure in that regard.

01:30:57.000 Probably the threat to himself, too, as a wealthy individual being chased after by Marxists.

01:31:01.000 But my point is, and then you guys, you know, I'd love to hear what you guys think other moves they'll make is, I would not be surprised if this summer you see a liberal podcaster in every major city, on 30 billboards in every city, a $20 million campaign, not because...

01:31:21.000 So I'll break it down.

01:31:23.000 How do the power structures do it? 0.99

01:31:24.000 First, a powerful billionaire of liberal persuasion is going to reach out to a liberal podcaster and say, I'd like to buy a portion of your company.

01:31:31.000 I'll buy 30% for $50 million.

01:31:34.000 Some ridiculous number.

01:31:35.000 A report will come out saying a new media deal between some corporation with investment backed by this powerful billionaire recently purchased a minority stake in so-and-so's speech networks, which is owned by Insert Liberal Podcaster.

01:31:51.000 They will then say, now that we're a minority owner, we want to invest $20 million in an ad campaign.

01:31:58.000 You're going to see this person's face on the side of billboards.

01:32:00.000 You're going to see it across highways.

01:32:02.000 They're going to hire the best and biggest PR. They're going to write a book.

01:32:05.000 They're going to buy 100,000 copies of their own book, and the New York Times is going to claim it's the number one bestseller.

01:32:09.000 They're then going to put this person in movies.

01:32:11.000 You'll see this in Iron Man, when Bill O'Reilly in Iron Man 2 is on the TV talking about Virginia pepper pots.

01:32:20.000 They are going to try and inject culture, cultural ubiquity, through these individuals.

01:32:25.000 To create the perception among the general public, they are Joe Rogan.

01:32:29.000 They are what he is to us today.

01:32:31.000 It will not be real, but you will not be able to tell the difference.

01:32:35.000 I believe that's their next big play.

01:32:37.000 You said that we should establish, that we need, I don't know exact words you used, absolute control of the media.

01:32:43.000 The way you said it, I was like, well, that could be taken, interpreted in a dangerous direction.

01:32:48.000 We need to exert cultural dominance over media institutions.

01:32:52.000 Yeah, that I agree with.

01:32:53.000 Because you still need a free media, and if they want to corrupt your people, then that's a discussion.

01:32:59.000 Is it a monopoly at that point?

01:33:01.000 Well, it is, but even as much as we talk about how the MSNBC and the CNN and etc.

01:33:05.000 is over and over and over...

01:33:07.000 And it is kind of, but you've got to understand, every gym, every airport, every public space all across the country, what do you see?

01:33:15.000 CNN, MSNBC. It is ubiquitous.

01:33:17.000 Not anymore.

01:33:18.000 CNN a few years ago lost their airport contract.

01:33:21.000 I'm just thinking like I see it in the gym all the time.

01:33:23.000 But I recently had a conversation with some guys in the industry when they were talking about...

01:33:29.000 It's a general conversation of how do we expand?

01:33:32.000 How do we reach more people?

01:33:33.000 And I said, airports and hotel lobbies?

01:33:35.000 And they were like, yeah, but is that real?

01:33:37.000 And I'm like, did it matter for CNN for 20 years when everybody recognized Anderson Cooper?

01:33:43.000 Doesn't matter.

01:33:44.000 Doesn't matter.

01:33:44.000 You want people to see...

01:33:46.000 Look, if this stuff didn't work, Coca-Cola would not buy billboards.

01:33:50.000 And to take it even one step further, what's going to happen with...

01:33:53.000 And I just always use MSNBC as an example because it's just the most far left of them.

01:33:57.000 They're going to start gobbling up some of these people as well.

01:34:00.000 Just the cable news structure is something that is very out of date.

01:34:06.000 Even when you watch it, it's why the clips will play on Twitter.

01:34:10.000 When's the last time you sat down and actually watched one of these shows?

01:34:13.000 To be fair, I watch The Five every day.

01:34:15.000 You watch The Five every day?

01:34:16.000 Yeah, Greg Gutfeld's fantastic.

01:34:18.000 Well, Gutfeld's great.

01:34:18.000 I can't watch his show at night because we're wrapping up our show.

01:34:22.000 Gutfeld is great, and that show is fun, and that show is Anomaly, and it's also super fun to do.

01:34:26.000 For me, 2015 or 16. I'm not an aficionado in politics.

01:34:30.000 2016, I just stopped.

01:34:32.000 I do the internet now.

01:34:33.000 And I think that there's a value to it sometimes, right?

01:34:35.000 But I think the point that I'm making is, even with MSNBC, look, they know that these shows don't work, and they know that they will work less and less, so they're going to start gobbling some of these people up, and then the corporate structure that props up MSNBC and all that money, that stuff is going to go to some of these people as well.

01:34:52.000 It's a nice question, and I'm not the biggest fan of Fox News as a whole.

01:34:57.000 They're okay.

01:34:58.000 Why isn't The Five just also live-streamed on their YouTube channel?

01:35:02.000 And uploaded to Apple and Spotify.

01:35:04.000 I don't know why the...

01:35:05.000 I don't know.

01:35:05.000 I think it is on XM, though.

01:35:08.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:35:09.000 I think that, you know, not to speak out of school too much about, you know, how Fox does business, but I know that it's a very traditional TV model, and I know that with a lot of their shows, because I know that they, you know, being Fox talent is great, because, you know, they'll wrap the podcast up in it, and the book up in it,

01:35:24.000 and all that stuff, but I think that The Five is just not set up that way, and I think that it has something to do with maybe Carriage, and all of that stuff, but it's just very, it's kind of, you know, it's such an established business model in LA. I was an actor in LA in 2005. 6, 7, 8, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. And they wouldn't take headshots through email.

01:35:45.000 It got to the point where I was like, why do I need to go spend 30 bucks to mail out...

01:35:49.000 Things to people that take a day or a courier to get there when I can email it.

01:35:53.000 And they're like, no, we don't take emails.

01:35:54.000 And why?

01:35:55.000 There was zero answers because we've always done it this way.

01:35:58.000 It's too expensive to change.

01:36:00.000 No one really needs to change over here.

01:36:01.000 So you do it the old model.

01:36:03.000 And it just died off as a result.

01:36:05.000 It wasn't agile.

01:36:07.000 It took forever to get a part.

01:36:08.000 You had to wait.

01:36:09.000 You're lucky.

01:36:10.000 So all these people on Instagram start blowing up and getting super famous and rich without having to wait for this extended old school process.

01:36:17.000 And I think that even with some of the mainstream media outlets, I think that what I see in this industry, in this business, is that everything is going to start coming together, right?

01:36:26.000 And we see it even in the conservative sort of influencer commentator space, right?

01:36:31.000 Like we see some people that have maybe talked crap about CPAC in the past, and now they're at CPAC now speaking on the stage.

01:36:38.000 So everything is kind of coming together, right?

01:36:40.000 And so what I see happening with a lot of these networks, and just think about Fox, right?

01:36:44.000 You know, at a certain point...

01:36:46.000 The numbers are going down across the board for all of these networks.

01:36:50.000 And at a certain point, they're going to start looking and bringing in people from new media, from independent, whatever you want to call it.

01:36:58.000 And eventually, what I hope happens with a behemoth like Fox, because, man, you ever been in a Fox?

01:37:04.000 It is the best lighting you're ever going to get in your life.

01:37:06.000 Yeah.

01:37:07.000 I wish that I could just travel all the time in that lighting.

01:37:11.000 It's the best lighting you're ever going to get in your life.

01:37:13.000 Resources are limitless.

01:37:16.000 And when you get some of these people that have been kind of ubiquitous in this space, and you give them that corporate backing, that's what I think is going to start happening, but I don't think we're going to see that for another seven to ten years.

01:37:28.000 Sorry, when I went on Jesse Waters recently, it's really amazing to watch how they do these shows live.

01:37:32.000 Yeah.

01:37:33.000 Because they're like, okay, a commercial break, you've got a minute.

01:37:37.000 Mr. Poole, they walk me into the studio.

01:37:39.000 Jesse's sitting there, he shakes my hand.

01:37:40.000 He's small talking, and I'm thinking like, are we going live in like ten seconds?

01:37:44.000 And he's acting like...

01:37:45.000 We're just in a room hanging out.

01:37:47.000 And then he's talking to me.

01:37:48.000 He asks me a question.

01:37:49.000 I answer.

01:37:49.000 And then he goes, so we're here.

01:37:51.000 And I was like...

01:37:52.000 How did he do that?

01:37:53.000 It's amazing.

01:37:54.000 It is a well-oiled machine.

01:37:57.000 Sixth Avenue in New York City, that is a well-oiled machine.

01:38:00.000 But it's like, you know, they're there and they do it every single day.

01:38:03.000 And it's just like, you know, you guys with this podcast, when you do something every single day, you become an expert at it.

01:38:07.000 Yeah.

01:38:08.000 My experience with corporations like Fox, big, multi-million, billion-dollar corporations, hiring super famous...

01:38:16.000 Influencers, I guess you'd call them, is that the influencers, they take the contract and then like, what am I doing here?

01:38:21.000 I can make the same money on my own.

01:38:24.000 Why am I now stuck working for someone else and not able to speak my mind on Twitter?

01:38:29.000 So I don't know if that model's gonna work.

01:38:31.000 It might play out.

01:38:32.000 It may work with some people, because I had to tell you, for some...

01:38:35.000 Look.

01:38:36.000 For some people, you get to a certain point, and I will say this as an independent media personality, and I do my thing, and I make my money, and I make my rounds, right?

01:38:45.000 Not as big as anything that's going on here, right?

01:38:48.000 But there's going to be some people, you can live a nice life, and you can make a decent amount of money, and you can do your work, and you can speak your mind at a certain level, and then at a certain point, when your platform becomes big enough, and somebody's going to scoop you up.

01:39:02.000 For, you know, one, two million dollars a year, you'll be like, hell, you know, why not?

01:39:07.000 You know, I'm in my mid-50s.

01:39:08.000 You know, maybe I've got a couple kids that, you know, at that point in time, maybe I want to spend a little bit more time with them.

01:39:14.000 I just think about sort of the cycle in this business, in this industry, as you're somebody like me, because I don't personally have the desire to, like, run an operation like this.

01:39:25.000 We watch.

01:39:26.000 I like to watch, as Steve Vennin advised.

01:39:30.000 Opposition media.

01:39:31.000 Yeah.

01:39:31.000 I like to go to their forums.

01:39:32.000 I like to read what their users are saying, what they're believing.

01:39:35.000 And I can tell you there are liberal podcasts that have no problem lying, as we all can already imagine.

01:39:40.000 Let me just say that an individual who is willing to publish a statement like, Trump has the lowest all-time approval, at a time when, in aggregate, and in each individual poll, he has the best polling of his career, an individual who would literally report the inversion of reality.

01:39:59.000 We'll take a couple million dollars to report lies for a politician. 1.00

01:40:02.000 They'll do anything.

01:40:03.000 And that's what we're going to see happen.

01:40:05.000 And there are people who believe them for whatever reason they do.

01:40:10.000 So, Ian, you made a really good point last year when you said you try to vaccinate your parents with information.

01:40:16.000 Yeah, get it to them before the media gets to them.

01:40:18.000 Your parents are libs? 0.97

01:40:20.000 They're like middle of the road because I'm able to communicate ideas with them.

01:40:23.000 I'm like, get ready for this USAID thing.

01:40:25.000 They're going to call it aid.

01:40:26.000 Get ready for the vaccine.

01:40:28.000 Get him for this one.

01:40:29.000 And my mom was like, oh, snap. 1.00

01:40:31.000 My dad was like, my mom's already based.

01:40:33.000 Basically, what Ian's point was, and it was very good, is the media's about to lie.

01:40:37.000 You need to show them the truth before the lie.

01:40:40.000 So they can immediately be like, that's not true and I know it.

01:40:42.000 You've got to get them information before the manipulators because what we end up seeing is, shout out to Daniel Negrano.

01:40:49.000 I'm a big fan.

01:40:50.000 He was on the show.

01:40:51.000 He said he believed the very fine people hoax for the longest time.

01:40:54.000 But he saw the video.

01:40:56.000 He said, I saw the video.

01:40:57.000 Trump said it.

01:40:57.000 What happened is, he saw the corporate press.

01:41:00.000 He saw the liberal pundits.

01:41:02.000 A video of Trump saying they were verifying people on both sides.

01:41:05.000 End of story.

01:41:06.000 Finally, one day, he was arguing with his friend, and his friend was like, Trump never said it.

01:41:10.000 He goes, yes, he did.

01:41:11.000 I saw the video.

01:41:11.000 And he goes, no, you didn't.

01:41:12.000 And he's like, in his mind, he's thinking, I literally watched the video on my phone.

01:41:16.000 So the dude put his phone down, slid it to him, and said, watch.

01:41:18.000 And he goes, fine.

01:41:19.000 And then he saw the extended video. 0.63

01:41:21.000 When Trump said, and I'm not talking about the neonats of the white nationalists, they should be condemned totally. 1.00

01:41:26.000 And he went, holy crap. 0.99

01:41:27.000 The reason you need to provide the vaccine information is because if I go to someone and say, here's a video of Trump saying I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis, he now says, I saw the video. 0.98

01:41:38.000 Trump said I'm not talking about them.

01:41:39.000 And so he rejects the lie.

01:41:41.000 What they're hoping for is the first time a person is exposed to the information will be the lie.

01:41:46.000 So they'll be convinced they've already seen the information.

01:41:49.000 And then they repeat the lie over and over and over.

01:41:52.000 The very fine people smear is one of, I think, one of the biggest hoaxes about Trump, but in recent memory.

01:41:58.000 And I remember when that went out.

01:42:00.000 And that was a part of my awakening, because I started doing all this stuff around 2018. And a part of how I built my brand in the earlier days was just literally as a journalist.

01:42:10.000 And it wasn't even like super, super rah-rah pro-Trump.

01:42:13.000 It was just like, wait a minute, these people are lying.

01:42:16.000 And then they keep on lying.

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:18.000 We're going to go to your super chat, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button?

01:42:22.000 Share the show with everyone you know.

01:42:24.000 If you've got the opportunity, you say to your friends, Timcast IRL is the greatest show.

01:42:29.000 Everyone agrees, at least that's what I've been told, because that's how podcasts grow big.

01:42:32.000 And that's basically what we're talking about.

01:42:35.000 Growing big.

01:42:36.000 And if you own an airport, and you want to run Timcast IRL at the airport, hit me up.

01:42:40.000 You have my permission.

01:42:41.000 Oh, awesome.

01:42:42.000 Well, you're right, because we've been operating in this space for so long of, please.

01:42:47.000 Make sure you're sharing the shows you like because organic virality will help us reach more people.

01:42:53.000 The corporate machine has been like, that's so cute, guys.

01:42:57.000 Hey, television network, run our political ad full of lies everywhere for 500 million people. 0.98

01:43:03.000 I'm sorry to interrupt.

01:43:04.000 I was trying to catch the tail on what you're saying.

01:43:06.000 That's how I feel when I make 20% on crypto or 5% on crypto.

01:43:09.000 I'm like, dude, the dudes that are controlling the levers are like, oh, enjoy your crumbs, little one.

01:43:15.000 Crumbs.

01:43:16.000 Well, we're changing the game.

01:43:17.000 We're changing it.

01:43:18.000 Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL.

01:43:21.000 Go to TimCastPremium.com and sign up.

01:43:23.000 Be a Rumble Premium member.

01:43:25.000 We got big plans.

01:43:26.000 We've been working hard behind the scenes.

01:43:28.000 We're going to do some really awesome stuff.

01:43:29.000 and we are going to push back and make sure, to the best of our abilities, that in the coming year or two, we will not let these institutions try and take over the space that we have hard fought and won through our talent and merit that they're going to try and invade.

01:43:45.000 We'll grab your superchats.

01:43:46.000 In the meantime, though, smash that like button.

01:43:47.000 We got Quantum Strange Quark who says, Regarding the Epstein files, has anyone checked to see if the services that the FBI used to pick up the shredded classified material for final destruction are seeing an increase in business?

01:43:59.000 I haven't looked into it.

01:44:00.000 You know, I wonder.

01:44:02.000 But I think it's fair to say, as a lot of people have already pointed out...

01:44:07.000 The Epstein files probably got destroyed a long time ago.

01:44:10.000 I mean, they would have not done their job if they hadn't.

01:44:13.000 I'm saying the nefarious ones that are supposed to be covering up these horrible crimes.

01:44:17.000 Of course, you would think that would be the first thing they would do is eradicate the evidence.

01:44:20.000 Why would there ever be evidence?

01:44:22.000 Except you're going to use it on blackmail on someone and be like, hey, I have your flight log.

01:44:25.000 Your name's still on it.

01:44:27.000 AlphaTurkey says the devil first lied to man by saying he can be like God by eating the fruit to gain knowledge.

01:44:32.000 Now he will lie again by saying that we can be like God by gaining immortality through Neuralink.

01:44:37.000 Yes, let me just make sure you understand.

01:44:40.000 There is no reality where you can download your brain into a computer.

01:44:44.000 You can only copy your brain.

01:44:46.000 And one of my favorite memes was a picture of a person smiling, and it says, me looking up from hell at the android I downloaded my consciousness into, living my life for me.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:45:00.000 That was a good one.

01:45:01.000 The idea, like there are people that talk about, oh, you know, when they'll be able to do teleportation, when they can disassemble your body into individual atoms, transmit them at the speed of light, and then reassemble them.

01:45:13.000 I'm like, there is no way that you're going to actually be alive after that process.

01:45:18.000 And that is actually canon in Star Trek.

01:45:20.000 Yeah.

01:45:21.000 In Star Trek, it is canon that whenever you beam up, they destroy your body and create a new version of you and you're dead.

01:45:28.000 Yeah, I don't buy it.

01:45:35.000 Who eventually became Commander Riker, from a planet with a static disturbance, ionic disturbance in the atmosphere.

01:45:41.000 And so the signal that intended to copy his biological structure was fragmented.

01:45:48.000 Part of the signal bounced back, reforming him on the planet.

01:45:52.000 The other half went to the planet, and the program they had restructured him with available data.

01:45:58.000 To the ship?

01:45:58.000 On the ship, creating two of them at the same time.

01:46:01.000 Eventually, they responded to a distress signal.

01:46:04.000 And Commander Riker discovers another version of himself.

01:46:09.000 So, sci-fi has long said, yeah, transportation kills you.

01:46:13.000 It does not transport you.

01:46:15.000 You die, and a new... 0.91

01:46:17.000 For that matter, the idea of transporting each individual atom makes no sense.

01:46:21.000 If they've mapped out every atom of your body, they would just use whatever atoms they had available to reconstruct you.

01:46:26.000 Different ones.

01:46:27.000 And it's not you.

01:46:28.000 Yeah, it's a different person.

01:46:29.000 I'm not buying that there will ever be teleportation, ever.

01:46:33.000 Yeah, I'm not going to be the first one to volunteer.

01:46:35.000 Unless they actually discover the soul, and they're like, look at that, the soul, and we can pick it up and move it.

01:46:40.000 I mean, internet video is kind of like teleportation.

01:46:43.000 You're teleporting your site and your...

01:46:46.000 You're hearing to another place in real time.

01:46:48.000 It's not.

01:46:49.000 Let's read this.

01:46:49.000 We have Gerald Armstrong who says, Does Cernovich regret his wear a mask tweet?

01:46:53.000 It makes you look like a clown in hindsight. 0.97

01:46:55.000 I completely disagree. 0.97

01:46:57.000 So many prominent conservatives early on in COVID were telling everyone to wear a mask.

01:47:01.000 In fact, I got sent probably 30 masks from prominent conservatives being like, Hey, Tim, get ready.

01:47:08.000 They're not telling you what's going on in the media.

01:47:09.000 I got sent N95s.

01:47:11.000 I got sent some of those, like, paint masks.

01:47:14.000 And then as soon as the narrative switched, conservatives all abandoned masks.

01:47:18.000 So, I don't think...

01:47:19.000 I'm not going to drag anybody for taking actions at a time of uncertainty.

01:47:23.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:24.000 So long as the action...

01:47:25.000 If the action was, I'm stealing your freedom from you, then I've got issues.

01:47:29.000 If you said, hey man, why don't you wear a mask?

01:47:32.000 I'd be like, it's my choice, I've decided not to.

01:47:34.000 Fine.

01:47:35.000 If you said, do it or else, now I've got a problem with you.

01:47:38.000 So the people who advocated for things that were your choice to do, I don't care.

01:47:44.000 If Ben Shapiro said get a vaccine, people are all mad at him about it.

01:47:47.000 I'm like, who cares?

01:47:48.000 He didn't force you to do it.

01:47:49.000 In fact, the Daily Wire fought against the government to stop the mandates.

01:47:52.000 I respect that.

01:47:53.000 And won.

01:47:54.000 And won.

01:47:54.000 I know, tremendous.

01:47:56.000 Alright, what do we got?

01:47:57.000 We got William Jones as public affairs officer here in DOD. Guidance from Hegseth has all historically released information media regarding DEI to be deleted over the past 20 years.

01:48:08.000 Seems like erasing history.

01:48:09.000 Thoughts?

01:48:11.000 That's an interesting point.

01:48:12.000 Maybe we want to preserve the records and archive them, but remove them from our structures.

01:48:18.000 Same with USAID. That website came down the day they defunded it, or started looking into it, and Mike Benz was like, dude, I need that website for research.

01:48:26.000 It's still on the Wayback Machine.

01:48:28.000 Well, actually, when they took it down, I don't know if it still is today, you had to directly go to the link.

01:48:36.000 If you went to the actual website, it was dead.

01:48:38.000 But if you had an old link, you could still get through to certain pages.

01:48:42.000 You know, I think that, you know, sometimes people want to memory hole things.

01:48:46.000 And I think that it's very easy to memory hole.

01:48:48.000 And what this makes me think of, and obviously, like, my mind is going back to the early days of COVID, and I remember, like, watching Tucker every night, back in the Fox Tucker days, and, you know, just breaking stuff that nobody was breaking, saying things that nobody was saying.

01:49:00.000 And I remember he is documenting this so that this moment in history and these things are documented, right?

01:49:07.000 So I think that that's important.

01:49:09.000 Let's grab this Rumble rant from Trent Lomolino.

01:49:11.000 He says, If there is anyone I trust out of the bunch, it's Cerno.

01:49:14.000 Sorry, FedPoso, LOL. Jack, he's calling you out.

01:49:19.000 Corpus says, as a fellow half-breed here, I'm sorry, I can't read what you wrote entirely. 1.00

01:49:23.000 As a fellow half-breed here, Tim, I've been a member since the beginning and wanted to congratulate you on starting your family, sir.

01:49:29.000 Thank you very much.

01:49:30.000 You know what?

01:49:30.000 I love the term mudblood.

01:49:32.000 You guys know mudblood from Harry Potter?

01:49:34.000 Yeah.

01:49:34.000 So mudbloods were like wizards who didn't have pure...

01:49:37.000 Basically, Harry Potter is magic Nazis. 0.67

01:49:40.000 I'm not kidding.

01:49:40.000 I did not know you were biracial.

01:49:42.000 Yeah, part Korean-Japanese.

01:49:44.000 Ah, interesting.

01:49:45.000 The more you know.

01:49:46.000 You know, I'm not a big fan of the term biracial either.

01:49:49.000 No?

01:49:49.000 No, because it's like, who's really bi?

01:49:52.000 Like, that means two.

01:49:53.000 Like, I'm...

01:49:54.000 Multiracial? 0.57

01:49:55.000 Well, I'm German, French, British, Korean, Japanese.

01:49:59.000 So it's like...

01:50:00.000 I guess if you're saying part Southeast Asian, part white.

01:50:04.000 But, you know, like, there are people who are like...

01:50:06.000 You know, you've got Haitian, you've got Central American, Native American, and white.

01:50:12.000 It's like, tri-racial. 0.99

01:50:14.000 You know, whatever.

01:50:15.000 But I wish I could read what he said.

01:50:17.000 But I do love Mudblood.

01:50:18.000 Because I'm a Harry Potter fan.

01:50:20.000 That means I'm a nerd millennial.

01:50:21.000 You get it.

01:50:21.000 It's a geek.

01:50:22.000 Yeah, it's a geek.

01:50:23.000 Sorry.

01:50:25.000 Alright, let's go.

01:50:25.000 We'll grab...

01:50:27.000 What do we have here?

01:50:28.000 We've got Patriot American.

01:50:29.000 It says, Tim, I've shot both the Mosin Nagant and the AK-47. 1.00

01:50:33.000 They're not that bad, though I do prefer...

01:50:35.000 I prefer the AR-15.

01:50:36.000 Yeah, no, let me clarify that.

01:50:37.000 I'm not saying, like, actually, the Soviets produced pretty dang good, reliable, but the point was, during the Soviet era, their wars, they made really, really cheap weapons.

01:50:48.000 Turns out the AK is pretty effective, and I'll just say, I don't know what the right word is.

01:50:55.000 It's...

01:50:57.000 Resilient.

01:50:58.000 There you go.

01:50:59.000 That's the right word.

01:51:00.000 It's not so complicated.

01:51:02.000 It can be used very easily.

01:51:03.000 Drop it in the mud and still works.

01:51:05.000 Not only that, part of the reason is because the tolerances are very loose.

01:51:10.000 With an AR-15, the tolerances are very tight.

01:51:13.000 Things have to be exactly the right size to fit together.

01:51:16.000 With an AK-47, it's a stamped receiver.

01:51:18.000 It's basically sheet metal bent into the right.

01:51:21.000 And then all the pieces, they fit together, but they don't have to fit together very tight, so there's room for dirt and stuff to kind of fall out.

01:51:29.000 You know what's really interesting?

01:51:30.000 There's a story, I believe it goes back to the French and English wars, I'm not entirely sure, where one side reduced the thickness of their bow strings and reduced the size of the notches in their arrows.

01:51:47.000 The point was, when the enemy fired arrows at them, The notches were large enough to fit in their bowstrings and be fired back, so they could reload.

01:51:55.000 But the arrows they fired could not be notched in the thick bowstrings, so they could not use them.

01:52:00.000 The Soviets, for this reason, and I could be wrong about this, I just read some blogs on the internet, created the Makarov 9mm intentionally for that reason. 0.62

01:52:10.000 It is, what is it, 9x18?

01:52:14.000 Am I getting that wrong?

01:52:16.000 9x18 is the Makarov, yeah.

01:52:18.000 And I think what standard 9mm is 9x19?

01:52:20.000 Yep.

01:52:21.000 The intention was they wanted to make sure that if their ammo fell into the enemy's hands, it could not be used against them.

01:52:28.000 Interesting stuff.

01:52:29.000 And now you have largely useless 9mm Makarov floating around all over the world that has to be specifically...

01:52:36.000 I don't know.

01:52:37.000 You're right about that battle.

01:52:38.000 I've heard about that before.

01:52:39.000 I'm looking at biocoding weapons.

01:52:41.000 They're talking about getting them so they genetically only function with your body.

01:52:45.000 It's a terrible idea.

01:52:46.000 No, they exist.

01:52:47.000 Handprint guns.

01:52:48.000 Where they want it so that...

01:52:49.000 Your palm print has to be read by the device, otherwise it doesn't fire.

01:52:53.000 That's actually incredible.

01:52:54.000 I like that idea.

01:52:54.000 Downside is you can't give it to your buddy in combat, which is a big part of regulation.

01:53:00.000 High rate of malfunction.

01:53:01.000 How many times have you tried to use your fingerprint thing on your phone and it won't read your thumbprint?

01:53:07.000 Because it changes a little bit as your skin wrinkles or your gain or lose weight.

01:53:11.000 So imagine a cop draws the weapon and it doesn't work.

01:53:14.000 I will stick with my analog Glock 19. Bio-coded weapon.

01:53:18.000 Alright, alright.

01:53:19.000 Just Cause I'm Free says, Love Ian's little jam sessions in the gaming.

01:53:21.000 Need to start doing it over on Rumble. 0.91

01:53:23.000 Rumble is where it's at, Ian.

01:53:25.000 Get off YouTube, you hippie boomer. 0.91

01:53:26.000 Oh, I've been on YouTube for 20 years, man.

01:53:28.000 It's tough to leave those you love.

01:53:29.000 But yeah, let's do it.

01:53:30.000 I just launched a song on my YouTube channel.

01:53:32.000 Still...

01:53:33.000 What is it?

01:53:33.000 I'm warning everybody right now.

01:53:35.000 Still play me is what it's called.

01:53:36.000 It's about people that play one-shot kill combos in Magic the Gathering.

01:53:39.000 I'm warning everybody right now.

01:53:41.000 For smaller, newer channels, Rumble is the place.

01:53:45.000 Take, for instance, the Culture War podcast.

01:53:48.000 It is not...

01:53:49.000 It's the smallest of the live shows we do.

01:53:51.000 We usually get between 7,000 and sometimes 15,000 concurrent viewers, whereas Timcast IRL routinely does 50,000 plus, and The Morning Show does 25,000 to 30,000.

01:54:03.000 On Rumble, though, when we launch The Culture War, as it's a smaller show, we have more viewers initially on Rumble than we do on YouTube with The Culture War podcast.

01:54:15.000 And it's because the Rumble audience is different from the YouTube audience.

01:54:20.000 And they are looking for and hungry for content.

01:54:22.000 And Rumble isn't as censorious.

01:54:24.000 So newer shows pop up immediately in a less crowded space for a hungrier audience.

01:54:31.000 My advice to people is if you're starting a new show, a new podcast, you will have a larger initial audience to start if you're on Rumble.

01:54:38.000 If you're on YouTube, you'll get nothing, you'll be suppressed, they'll likely ban you, and they won't monetize you in the first place.

01:54:43.000 I'm not saying don't use it.

01:54:45.000 That's not at all.

01:54:46.000 I'm saying, when you start your show, whatever you're doing with music or gaming or politics, whatever it is, you obviously want to be on every platform.

01:54:52.000 I guarantee you, right now, if you started a show and you were on YouTube, Rumble, Spotify, Apple, and X, Rumble's going to be your biggest audience.

01:55:00.000 Even if you're looking at 100 views for a small new channel.

01:55:04.000 So, we've got to pick that game up, my friends.

01:55:07.000 Oh yeah, I love Rumble.

01:55:09.000 It is good.

01:55:10.000 They were testing a gaming thing.

01:55:13.000 I don't know if they have...

01:55:14.000 They bought something they were going to turn into gaming at some point, but I'm not sure.

01:55:18.000 I would help them.

01:55:19.000 A lot of big things coming.

01:55:21.000 Yeah, let's talk about it.

01:55:22.000 Well, one of the big things I'm hoping for, and you know what happens is, I think a key for Rumble is going to be promoting new shows, making sure, like, this is so big.

01:55:34.000 One of the biggest things about YouTube was something in the beginning called the Suggested User List.

01:55:39.000 Do you remember that, Ian?

01:55:40.000 They called it the SUL. In the early days of YouTube, People, to this day, who are prominent millionaires...

01:55:47.000 On the right, which show up on the right side of the page?

01:55:49.000 On the left side of the page.

01:55:50.000 When you were signing up.

01:55:51.000 Many prominent YouTubers' careers were made, not because they were good, but because they were there.

01:55:57.000 I can attest to that.

01:55:58.000 Yes.

01:55:59.000 When you signed up for YouTube, YouTube would be like, look, we want you to stay on this page, so here's what we have available for you to choose from.

01:56:06.000 And they would tell new users to follow certain individuals on YouTube.

01:56:10.000 That was called the Suggested User List.

01:56:12.000 There were people who did, like, nothing of merit, but they did post every day.

01:56:18.000 So YouTube was like, well, this guy posts every day.

01:56:21.000 At the time, YouTube was largely random videos like Charlie Bit My Finger.

01:56:25.000 A family would upload a video to share with friends and family.

01:56:28.000 Eventually, people started to emerge where they would record on a webcam and post every single day.

01:56:33.000 YouTube then says, hey, this is consistent.

01:56:35.000 Let's just tell people to follow these guys.

01:56:37.000 Some of those people still exist to this day.

01:56:40.000 Some 20 years later, millions of dollars simply for being there.

01:56:44.000 So, I'm just saying.

01:56:46.000 There's the opportunity, man.

01:56:48.000 A platform built for video podcasting is available to you on Rumble.

01:56:52.000 And what I'm hoping for is that there will be some kind of algorithmic growth engine for new shows.

01:56:57.000 Which will set the standard that if you want to make it in video podcasting, your fastest path to running a business and succeeding with an audience is going to be at Rumble instead.

01:57:06.000 I think that's already true, but we need a faster, stronger mechanism for it.

01:57:10.000 Yeah, like inter-site commercials where you can send people as a creator to all these new upcomings and stuff like that.

01:57:17.000 Suggested user lists and things like that, which they may already have, but it's going to require some finesse.

01:57:22.000 Let's grab some more.

01:57:23.000 Alright, what do we have here?

01:57:26.000 Patriot says, followers and supporters are upset because what is new?

01:57:29.000 Y'all still went with the narrative after you knew about the embargo.

01:57:32.000 Check your posts.

01:57:33.000 The promises made kept mantra sounds like Bush admin, I'll resolve all BS. I will say, you know, I talked to a handful of people who were there.

01:57:41.000 Obviously, Mike was one of the guys.

01:57:43.000 He told me right away.

01:57:45.000 He's like, we're not seeing a lot that's incriminating in this.

01:57:48.000 Some of it's old.

01:57:49.000 Some of it's unredacted.

01:57:50.000 Some of it's new, but not really that big a deal.

01:57:52.000 And I... Absolutely said that on Timcast IRL. I said exactly what I was told on background without revealing any information.

01:57:59.000 It wasn't just Mike I was talking about.

01:58:00.000 I don't want to just act like he's the only one who was telling me these things.

01:58:03.000 But, uh, yeah.

01:58:05.000 You know, outright we wanted to make sure everybody understood what was going on.

01:58:09.000 And...

01:58:09.000 If you don't know, it's basically there's a table of contents with a bunch of names.

01:58:13.000 It's flight logs.

01:58:14.000 And then there's a bunch of redacted names with like Rothschild, Evelyn Rothschild's names on it.

01:58:18.000 I don't know if that means he flew on the plane once.

01:58:21.000 No, no, no, no.

01:58:22.000 He didn't.

01:58:23.000 That's just contact info?

01:58:25.000 Yeah, that's like, you know, someone said, here's my number, give me a call sometime.

01:58:28.000 And it's rough because they're trying to do new things, right?

01:58:31.000 In the White House press room, and they're trying to do new things with influencers.

01:58:35.000 All of this stuff is very, very new, right?

01:58:37.000 So, you know, when you're trying to do new things and you're cracking eggs, you know, you're going to, everything's not going to be perfect the first go-round.

01:58:44.000 I want to summarize, though, basically, if you want, this is what the Epstein-Binder basically was.

01:58:48.000 The Epstein-Binder basically was.

01:58:49.000 The Epstein-Binder, you need an idea. 0.97

01:58:51.000 It's ridiculous. 0.82

01:58:52.000 To be fair, that's the victim list. 0.77

01:58:54.000 Okay.

01:58:54.000 So they rejected that.

01:58:56.000 Yeah.

01:58:56.000 All right.

01:58:57.000 MyDougEatsJeans says, love your new backdrop.

01:58:59.000 Only here for Ian.

01:59:00.000 Kidding, not kidding.

01:59:01.000 What's up, homie? 1.00

01:59:01.000 So we are in an undisclosed location at a party. 1.00

01:59:05.000 And, well, I'm going to say the location of the place after we leave because I don't want to risk anybody's security.

01:59:11.000 There's prominent personnel here.

01:59:12.000 I will say it was an honor and a privilege to interview, very briefly, David Sachs on AI issues.

01:59:19.000 So we filmed that and it's editing right now.

01:59:22.000 We're trying to figure out how to publish it.

01:59:24.000 Don't know if we want to paywall it because David Sachs is the White House AI guy.

01:59:28.000 And I'm like, let's hear what he has to say.

01:59:30.000 Very optimistic.

01:59:30.000 He said most people are concerned about the risks that we can't actually predict while ignoring the tremendous upsides, which we can to a degree.

01:59:41.000 I agree, I agree.

01:59:43.000 Because we talk about medical advancements in technology, detecting cancers before a doctor can.

01:59:47.000 I mean, there's going to be some amazing stuff here.

01:59:49.000 But we are pretty worried.

01:59:52.000 All right, we got time for one more, one more.

01:59:58.000 No Name Anonymous says, Epstein flew to and from Fort Knox in 1996, picking up a Microsoft executive.

02:00:05.000 Interesting.

02:00:06.000 Bill Gates has Knox Gold.

02:00:08.000 Nolan Buss says, Did Zelensky sabotage this piece deal on purpose?

02:00:11.000 This is the first failed peace deal.

02:00:13.000 Who is putting up to this?

02:00:14.000 The EU, NATO, why?

02:00:16.000 No, no.

02:00:16.000 This is different.

02:00:18.000 Insulting Trump and Vance means the U.S. might just be like, we're out, we're done, bye.

02:00:23.000 And then the war's over.

02:00:26.000 So my friends, we do have to wrap things up.

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02:00:33.000 It's very noisy.

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02:01:05.000 We're going to wrap things up, though.

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02:01:10.000 Rob, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:12.000 Yeah, you can follow me at RobSmithOnline, but listen, download CanCancelRobSmith, Apple Podcasts, iHeart Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.

02:01:21.000 Got a fresh episode dropped just tonight.

02:01:23.000 So if you like what you hear, if you like me, go hit up that podcast.

02:01:28.000 I'm at Ian Crossland.

02:01:29.000 You can get me all over the internet at Ian Crossland.

02:01:31.000 Particularly on YouTube, I uploaded a video earlier today.

02:01:33.000 It's a song.

02:01:34.000 I said, still play me.

02:01:36.000 It's about...

02:01:37.000 What I would say to someone, actually Allison inspired me, what I would say to someone that plays that card in Magic where it's like, I just gotta get that one card to deck you.

02:01:44.000 You're talking about me. 0.94

02:01:44.000 Yeah, well then I was like, actually, I'm thinking about Allison because Tim influenced her to play that stupid deck. 0.94

02:01:48.000 So I'm like, this goes out to all the homies that play that dumbass one-shot kill combo. 1.00

02:01:52.000 Yeah, dude, the song's awesome. 0.99

02:01:54.000 Check it out.

02:01:54.000 Allison's deck is not a one-shot kill combo.

02:01:56.000 It's got multiple functions for a path to victory.

02:01:59.000 Oh, okay, multiple one-shot kill combos.

02:02:01.000 Is that what I'm hearing here?

02:02:02.000 Anyway, check it out on YouTube and check out that Green Room episode with me and Milo.

02:02:06.000 I think it was very funny.

02:02:07.000 I hope the audio came out good.

02:02:08.000 Yeah, that was really enjoyable.

02:02:09.000 Milo Yiannopoulos and I, we get along swimming.

02:02:11.000 You'll be grossed out, but okay.

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