Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump To Deploy National Guard To Chicago, Federal TAKEOVER Begins | Timcast IRL

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00:02:54.000 Donald Trump is said to be deploying one hundred National Guard troops into Chicago.

00:02:59.000 The feds are already there.

00:03:00.000 To mixed reaction.

00:03:02.000 There are serious videos coming out of these feds walking down the street, people cheering for him, some people yelling, them chasing a guy on a bike who is yelling at him, and then he gets away.

00:03:11.000 I put Benny Hill music on it.

00:03:12.000 We'll talk about that.

00:03:13.000 Plus, we've got a potential government shutdown coming.

00:03:18.000 We've got YouTube paying Donald Trump twenty-five million dollars.

00:03:22.000 It is a very crazy morning.

00:03:24.000 Oregon is suing Donald Trump to prevent the deployment of National Guard.

00:03:29.000 A lot is happening, my friends.

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00:07:01.000 But uh, but we're here, we'll be here, we'll be here all week.

00:07:02.000 This is gonna be fun.

00:07:03.000 And uh, a lot of interesting conversations.

00:07:05.000 But let's let's jump into that first story.

00:07:06.000 Yeah, we got this from CBS News.

00:07:09.000 Pritzker says Trump administration seeking to deploy 100 troops to protect ice in Illinois.

00:07:15.000 So it's not just the ICE agents with these ongoing riots, but now National Guard will be protecting them.

00:07:21.000 Governor Pritzker on Monday said his administration has learned the Trump administration is seeking to deploy 100 troops in Illinois following the deployment of armed federal agents in downtown Chicago over the weekend, and multiple clashes between protesters and ice agents in the West suburban Broadview in recent weeks.

00:07:37.000 Pritzker said the Illinois National Guard has learned the Department of Homeland Security sent a memo to the Pentagon requesting deployment of 100 military troops in Illinois to protect ice personnel and facilities.

00:07:48.000 The governor's office said it's unclear if those troops would be Illinois National Guard, National Guard members from other states, or active duty military troops.

00:07:56.000 Quote.

00:07:57.000 What I have warned of is now being realized.

00:08:00.000 One thing is clear.

00:08:01.000 None of what Trump is doing is making Illinois safer.

00:08:03.000 This is an attack on neighborhoods, on lawful residents, on U.S. citizens.

00:08:07.000 That's not preventing crime, as Donald Trump claims.

00:08:09.000 That's threatening public safety.

00:08:11.000 But as I've said many times for Donald Trump and the MAGAs in Congress, this is not about fighting crime or about public safety.

00:08:17.000 This is about sowing fear and intimidation and division among Americans.

00:08:21.000 It was about creating a pretext to send armed military troops in our communities.

00:08:26.000 This is about consolidating power in Donald Trump's hands.

00:08:29.000 Oh boy, I love this because I'm from Chicago, and I can tell you he's lying.

00:08:35.000 The Democrats have controlled Chicago for over 100 years, and they have never solved the problem of crime.

00:08:41.000 All they do is bulldoze these crime-ridden neighborhoods and relocate these families and these affected communities into other areas.

00:08:49.000 So I say this.

00:08:50.000 I see a video, and I'll tell you, it's a rock in a hard place that I'm not going to be happy about.

00:08:55.000 But I see a video of ICE agent, C BP, or National Guard walking around Chicago.

00:08:59.000 And my attitude is, oh, thank God.

00:09:02.000 I see these guys.

00:09:03.000 You know what the you know what your worst case scenario is?

00:09:04.000 I know Luke, you're gonna have a heart attack over this one.

00:09:06.000 You're gonna be walking down the street, and there's gonna be a National Guard guy, and he's gonna go, excuse me, sir, you got a second?

00:09:11.000 Can I see some ID real quick?

00:09:12.000 No.

00:09:13.000 And and I played a fifth.

00:09:14.000 And exactly.

00:09:15.000 And I I I mentioned this that maybe 20 years ago, I'd have been like, I don't gotta give you my ID, what it's all about.

00:09:21.000 Maybe not even, to be completely honest.

00:09:22.000 Because now you know my response is I'll be like, uh, is something going on?

00:09:25.000 Yeah, sure, here's my ID.

00:09:27.000 I appreciate that you guys are here.

00:09:28.000 It's been crazy.

00:09:29.000 My my where I grew up in my neighborhood, if I had National Guard at the park, and they said you have an idea, but like, no, I'm 16.

00:09:35.000 And they'd be like, what are you doing?

00:09:36.000 I'm out with my friends.

00:09:38.000 That's probably the end of it.

00:09:39.000 The alternative is roving bands of gangbangers and people getting mugged, robbed, getting shot for no reason.

00:09:46.000 There are some areas in Chicago where gangs, you may you have to join the gang if you live in their turf.

00:09:52.000 So you're 13, they say join the gang.

00:09:53.000 And how do you join the gang?

00:09:54.000 You kill somebody.

00:09:56.000 This stuff has to stop.

00:09:57.000 And when Pritzker says there's there's no problem, we don't need this a hundred years, and they've never solved these problems.

00:10:04.000 I will take anything I can get.

00:10:05.000 So Al Sharpton is actually calling this action by Trump a racist because he says uh Trump is targeting uh blacks when he's doing this.

00:10:13.000 So I I think what happened in Washington, DC is kind of an example of where this is going.

00:10:18.000 I mean, this is kind of a kind of a slow creak.

00:10:20.000 I'm uh I'm not a big fan of the military being on streets, but uh really we have to look at what happened in Washington, DC.

00:10:27.000 There wasn't any kind of major violations of people's civil liberties, it was just people kind of walking around here.

00:10:32.000 People still have their constitutional rights, and for me, the perfect solution.

00:10:37.000 I mean, obviously, you you you picked up this dichotomy of like, okay, do you want the gangbanger there?

00:10:41.000 Do you want the National Guardsman there?

00:10:42.000 Who do you want on the street corner? 0.55

00:10:44.000 Who do you feel safer by?

00:10:45.000 Obviously, the average sane rational person is going to want to have the the military there.

00:10:49.000 But I I think the perfect response is to allow people to defend themselves.

00:10:52.000 I think there's a way to do this without using our tax dollars, using our military, and that's just allowing uh concealed carry federally.

00:10:59.000 I know Trump has talked about that, and I would love to have people to be able to stand up to criminals and give them a fair chance to actually defend themselves, which they don't in Chicago.

00:11:09.000 But but you know what happens in Chicago?

00:11:10.000 You get arrested.

00:11:11.000 Exactly.

00:11:12.000 That's the exactly.

00:11:13.000 That's that's I I think if we're gonna unwind this problem, that would be a kind of more federal way to do it, especially if you allow federal concealed carry, which I think is the most important issue right now.

00:11:23.000 And it and then we won't have to waste National Guard troops, we won't have to spend tax dollars, and people are able to understand hey, if you commit a crime, there's going to be people who are gonna stand up to you and fight back.

00:11:33.000 That right there is the biggest difference that is going to change things and respect people's civil liberties at the same time.

00:11:38.000 Now I know Andrew is shocked by this development.

00:11:40.000 No, I loved it.

00:11:41.000 Oh, I totally loved it.

00:11:42.000 I I let me hear, you know, I was I couldn't even remember her name.

00:11:45.000 I had to look it up.

00:11:45.000 It was remember when the rep uh La Monica McGyver.

00:11:48.000 She punched it. 0.95

00:11:49.000 She's like body checked, she's like a linebacker going in there. 1.00

00:11:51.000 She punched, she punched. 1.00

00:11:53.000 Well, she's not.

00:11:53.000 So she assaulted.

00:11:54.000 That much is true, right?

00:11:56.000 She assaulted uh you know, federal law enforcement.

00:11:59.000 That's what this is.

00:12:00.000 And so all of this goes back to the fact that blue jurisdictions are unwilling or unable to protect federal law enforcement that are in these cities.

00:12:10.000 And so if they would just simply cooperate, if they would shut down these protests on their own, then Trump and the federal government would not have to send in additional troops.

00:12:19.000 I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna push on that language a little bit.

00:12:21.000 They're not protests.

00:12:22.000 And I know that when riots, they're assaults, they're they're domestic violent terrorism.

00:12:27.000 I I told I'm I'm good using all those words.

00:12:29.000 I'm good using all of it.

00:12:30.000 I don't mean that to come down on you, but I think we, the people on the right, or whoever would describe the faction, the pro-America faction.

00:12:36.000 Yeah, the team sanity has this tendency to often use the language that the the corporate press will use.

00:12:42.000 That's a fine pushback.

00:12:44.000 I mean, because I I listen, I just live through my friend, you know, experiencing extreme violence, and obviously this ratcheting up of this violent rhetoric, this violent uh I mean, you could see how radicalized young liberals have become in this country.

00:13:01.000 30% of them or more believe that violence is somehow justifiable if to advance a political agenda.

00:13:07.000 We have to figure out this problem on that side, but we have to be honest about the fact that it's coming from people like La Monica McIver, and what's coming from Democrat leaders, they are looking the other way, they're essentially tacitly endorsing these strategies.

00:13:22.000 And yeah, I mean, I I love what Trump did with Antifa.

00:13:25.000 I love that we're we're starting to take this stuff seriously and be like, these are domestic extremists, these are domestic terrorists, right?

00:13:31.000 And they're actually doing violence, and we have to c uh clamp down on it.

00:13:35.000 Isn't it wild that for the longest time we have tolerated these people showing up to various law enforcement agencies?

00:13:43.000 And this is this is for I mean 20 years or longer, and they physically attack vehicles.

00:13:47.000 And I'm I'm sitting here thinking like these liberals are going out screaming, but my free speech.

00:13:52.000 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on a minute.

00:13:55.000 Free speech was never about you surrounding an ice vehicle and banging on it and screaming.

00:13:59.000 Free speech was you stood across the street from the gate holding up signs and and and using that to generate attention.

00:14:06.000 There's a degree of civil disobedience we tolerate, like linking arms, the cops come and then they break you up.

00:14:12.000 They they they take you out, you get it, you get a civil infraction of some sort.

00:14:15.000 But we're supposed to we're supposed to tolerate now these people physically attacking cops.

00:14:20.000 And I'm like, no, no, no, no.

00:14:21.000 I'm the line has been crossed, okay?

00:14:23.000 If you're gonna go out and you're gonna wave your little sign in the air and you are going to rally people and march down the street, I I'm not even a guy who thinks you need a permit for that.

00:14:31.000 That's that's fine.

00:14:32.000 You want to march down the street, okay.

00:14:33.000 But when you physically attack cops, lock them up, lock them up.

00:14:36.000 Well, the tolerance of the tolerance is expected of conservatives at every level.

00:14:40.000 I mean, that's why this is so important with the National Guard deployment.

00:14:43.000 Because I mean, these cities, it's not it's beyond an action.

00:14:46.000 When you and like you're basically telling your citizens I hate you when you refuse to enforce crime for as long as it's been going on.

00:14:51.000 So conservatives have been expected to tolerate violence at every level, just from the street corner all the way to political assassinations for decades now.

00:14:59.000 And so it's like now that the Trump administration is actually just stepping in and lobbying on behalf of well-meaning citizens, they perceive that as this huge authoritarian.

00:15:07.000 Yeah, but it it it feels to me like more deliberate and sinister than that.

00:15:11.000 They are intentionally not protecting ICE officers.

00:15:14.000 Right.

00:15:15.000 You know, this this goes back to kind of when you when the raids were happening in LA and it was all that it was the national news, right?

00:15:20.000 Karen Bass is saying, you know, you don't need to do this, govern Newsom making it this this opportunity to to take advantage politically.

00:15:28.000 So but the point is, all that they would need to do to stop that, it's very clear.

00:15:33.000 When you get a criminal that happens to be an illegal alien and there's an ice detainer on him, hand him over.

00:15:39.000 But when you can't do that, guess what ICE has to do?

00:15:41.000 They have to go out to the community and round these people up.

00:15:44.000 So that is an intentional act of provocation by the local government, by Democrat cities, and governors to say, we're not gonna play ball the safe way.

00:15:53.000 But how how much more safe is it to hand somebody over that's already in custody?

00:15:57.000 No, they're gonna make you go out into the community and get these people, and guess what happens when that?

00:16:01.000 People get hurt, people get killed.

00:16:03.000 And that that so it's an intentional provocation, the blood is on their hands.

00:16:07.000 And so, yeah, we need to we need to ratchet it up, and Trump's absolutely right for sending in these troops.

00:16:11.000 Here's the challenge we face.

00:16:13.000 The the right has too long misunderstood the intentions of the left.

00:16:19.000 Yes.

00:16:20.000 A great example is this story from the New York Post earlier.

00:16:23.000 Zoran Mamdani pledges 100 million dollars in free legal defense, and by free I mean they take it from you, taxpayer, free legal defenses for illegal immigrants in New York when he wins. 0.53

00:16:36.000 That means you as an American citizen will do labor.

00:16:39.000 The city will take a portion of that and fund people who are not citizens of this country.

00:16:45.000 No, that aren't even legally here.

00:16:47.000 Exactly, not even legally here.

00:16:48.000 And he said, and he says in his campaign that he's going to defend his community.

00:16:55.000 People need to understand when they say our democracy or our community, and then they go on to explain they're talking about non-citizens, people who don't live in this country. 0.97

00:17:04.000 They are telling us you are not who we are talking about.

00:17:08.000 You are not our community.

00:17:09.000 But the problem is for the longest time, the right has believed that the left was talking about a country with all of us together when they've been talking about isolating us and and breaking us down and destroying what we want and what we believe in in this country.

00:17:23.000 So the challenge we face now, as you mentioned, why won't they turn these illegal immigrants over? 1.00

00:17:28.000 That would be like imagine if the UK filed an extradition, uh a warrant on Luke for Luke's speech.

00:17:39.000 Well, we're not going to turn over a US citizen of the UK.

00:17:42.000 That's how the Democrats feel about their illegal immigrants.

00:17:44.000 It's like turning over a citizen of their country to a foreign nation. 0.92

00:17:49.000 That's how they're treating it.

00:17:50.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:17:51.000 But and and by the way, we've you're you're totally right, isolating the fact that we have assumed that they are operating in good faith when they're not.

00:18:00.000 And secondly, I would say though that they are even it's like when I say it's more sinister than that, it's because they're looking at it as a political advantageous move to provoke the action, and then when Trump takes the action, then they say, Oh, it's the end of democracy.

00:18:13.000 No, it's like, no, you are literally defying federal law.

00:18:18.000 You are refusing to cooperate.

00:18:19.000 And by the way, the fact that there's any legal protection for a sanctuary city to begin with b boggles the mind.

00:18:24.000 And it's a there are legal protections.

00:18:26.000 This is there's there is case law and all this stuff, which is a problem.

00:18:29.000 We need to dismantle it because it it fundamentally erodes the strength of the federal government and the ability for us to govern the entirety of this country.

00:18:37.000 You essentially have these little outposts of rogue states that you know we just call them Karen Bass. 0.96

00:18:43.000 I'll give it to him.

00:18:44.000 It is destroying democracy.

00:18:45.000 We're a constitutional republic.

00:18:47.000 They are a multicultural democracy.

00:18:48.000 That's how Stephen Marsh described it.

00:18:50.000 And as much as he said he favors the he he favors the multicultural democracy, I think he's correct.

00:18:57.000 They have created a multicultural democracy that is trying to supplant our constitutional republic. 1.00

00:19:02.000 So when they look at what Trump is doing, what we are doing, what Americans believe in want for the country, electing Trump with a popular vote, and they say, oh no, our democracy is threatened.

00:19:11.000 Yeah, they're speaking the language of the left, they're saying our invasive system is under threat.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, they're right.

00:19:19.000 Well, a lot of the corruption comes top down, not just from the George Soros district attorneys, but also police officers.

00:19:25.000 I mean, from my experiences being at the Battle of Berkeley, being in Portland, Tim, you were there too for a lot of those kind of on-the-ground protest movements.

00:19:32.000 There was incidences where the left created an illegal action, uh, violated someone's personal property or injured someone, and the cops just kind of stood there like, okay, we're not going to do anything.

00:19:42.000 So when we look at that type of lawlessness, again, I have to go back to constitutional carry.

00:19:49.000 I have to go back to individuals understanding that the solution is going to be on an individual level, because I feel like we're just trying to outbeat each other with big government.

00:19:57.000 I don't want big government, but at the same time, the problem that you guys are addressing is very severe, is very real.

00:20:04.000 And we're not talking about thousands of troops.

00:20:06.000 We're not talking about martial law.

00:20:07.000 We're talking about what was it, a hundred to two hundred troops that are also there.

00:20:10.000 So I understand that argument is.

00:20:11.000 And by the way, when you another thing that boggles the mind here is you look at there's a there's a crazy stat that people don't know about DC.

00:20:18.000 And I don't know the stats about Chicago, but I'm assuming they're just as stark, if not more.

00:20:24.000 In DC from 2018 until Trump deployed, you know, took over law enforcement in in District of Columbia, there was like 1,200 murders from 2018 until until 2025.

00:20:38.000 Guess guess how many of those murders were white?

00:20:41.000 Any idea?

00:20:42.000 Was it most of them?

00:20:43.000 No, like the people that were murdered, 1,200, how many of them were white?

00:20:47.000 11.

00:20:48.000 Wow.

00:20:49.000 11.

00:20:50.000 That means that I know it's gonna be a big number or a small number.

00:20:53.000 Yeah.

00:20:54.000 11.

00:20:54.000 So Trump comes in, takes over law enforcement.

00:20:57.000 You know, there was a lot of the the tweets you were seeing for a while were like, no murders for this much, which by the way, in the height of the summer was truly remarkable, right?

00:21:05.000 Because that's killing season.

00:21:07.000 The summer is killing season.

00:21:08.000 There wasn't any, it wasn't any merge.

00:21:09.000 And then we finally had one, right?

00:21:10.000 Right.

00:21:11.000 But the what pe what you know the left says is that they're for the the people of color, they're for the disenfranchised, the marginalized, all this stuff.

00:21:19.000 Well, Trump's the one out here saving black lives. 1.00

00:21:21.000 You look at Fergus the Ferguson effect, you look at George Floyd effect.

00:21:25.000 This is the the lack of law enforcement in the communities that need it most results in all of these dead black and brown kids. 1.00

00:21:33.000 You know what's gonna happen though?

00:21:35.000 Uh let's do a countdown to when the news with with the number of black people dying going way down under Trump's rule.

00:21:42.000 What they're gonna say now is number of white people killed in DC explodes by 2,499.

00:21:48.000 No, you're probably right.

00:21:48.000 Because it's like from proportional, yeah.

00:21:50.000 But they yeah, they don't they don't they don't understand statistics or uh per capita, right?

00:21:50.000 Exactly.

00:21:55.000 They can frame it that way.

00:21:56.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:21:56.000 Yeah.

00:21:57.000 We have this from NBC News.

00:21:59.000 Oregon sues Trump administration over deployment of National Guard troops to Portland.

00:22:04.000 The suit comes a day after Trump announced he was authorizing the guard to use full force, which is a vague term because does he mean lethal force?

00:22:13.000 I don't know.

00:22:14.000 The suit names President Trump, Pete Hagseth, Homeland Security is Christy Nome, uh, and uh as defendants, it has a federal court in Portland to stop the Trump administration from deploying troops and declare the deployment unlawful.

00:22:26.000 Now, this is something called the protective principle.

00:22:28.000 It's been asserted by the executive branch for Decades.

00:22:30.000 The executive branch has long maintained troops can be deployed not for domestic law enforcement, but to protect federal buildings and assist federal law enforcement in certain capacities like logistics or otherwise.

00:22:43.000 And that is viewed as largely legal.

00:22:47.000 Now the issue I suppose we're looking at is what is full force mean?

00:22:51.000 And the bigger question for our, you know, uh anarcho Luke over here is when I look at this, I look at look at extenuating circumstances, and I you know, it's the rock in the hard place.

00:23:03.000 Abraham Lincoln famously suspended habeas corpus, one of the crazest examples of he he did this in violation of the Constitution without legislative authority and then retroactively sought approval from Congress, which was granted.

00:23:17.000 Creating this precedent where president can theoretically suspend habeas corpus in an emergency and then wait for approval later.

00:23:26.000 It's kind of a crazy thing to think that we we would do, but Abraham Lincoln did it.

00:23:29.000 What we're dealing with right now, I would say, I don't I don't want National Guard on my streets, but what's the alternative?

00:23:35.000 You've got these roving bands of far left extremists who have been firebombing buildings for for the past several years, the worst riots we'd seen in fifty years.

00:23:41.000 We've got now the assassination of Charlie Kirk, as well as since we've had four terror attacks in four weeks.

00:23:48.000 Now, I do understand that the church attack w it was some internal Mormon issue, the left is gonna run wild with it, but by all means the guy uh appears to have been a Trump supporter.

00:23:57.000 The point is, we are dealing with a terror attack every week.

00:24:01.000 This this year, I think we're up to 30, and what I mean by terror tech is politically motivated, ideologically motivated attacks.

00:24:08.000 Now I think they're almost entirely liberal, and that's where we get really crazy is that I'm not talking about far left.

00:24:15.000 The ideology espoused by these terrorists is mainstream Democrat ideology.

00:24:20.000 What AOC said on the floor of the House was no different than the ideology of the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk.

00:24:27.000 Now, the when when we see this guy, he like drives into a church and he attacks it, everyone on the on the right is shocked, angered and saying this can't happen.

00:24:35.000 We can't allow this.

00:24:36.000 And his views do not represent his motivation doesn't represent anyone on the right.

00:24:40.000 Luke, how do you feel about Trump deploying troops considering all of this stuff that's happening?

00:24:46.000 Well, we have to look at uh case by case basis.

00:24:48.000 So Washington, DC, I think overall was a successful case, right?

00:24:52.000 Even though I would have handled it completely differently with more of a respect for the tax dollars, but that's just me.

00:24:57.000 I'm I'm just a nitpicker.

00:24:59.000 Uh but w with Portland, uh, we have to understand the police are complicit there.

00:25:03.000 A lot of the times they allow leftist violence, they don't do anything about it.

00:25:06.000 When you have people taking sniper shots at ICE facilities, you're gonna need uh National Guard to respond in full force.

00:25:13.000 I know the left is responding in very hyperbolically saying, now they're gonna do whatever they want.

00:25:18.000 No, I mean, if if I'm one of these National Guardsmen, right, and I'm there at the ICE facility, I want to make sure if that if someone is throwing a Molotov cocktail at me or if someone is uh shooting a gun at me, that I could defend myself.

00:25:29.000 So I think this is what they're meaning here, and it's reasonable to have that.

00:25:34.000 Like I can't argue against that.

00:25:34.000 It makes sense.

00:25:36.000 It seems like escalation is the only thing that's gonna happen then.

00:25:38.000 Because the the ICE attacker, uh uh apparently, according to the evidence that uh Cash put out, he wrote a letter saying he wanted to terrorize ICE and have them fear there could be a sniper on any rooftop.

00:25:51.000 So now you've got these protests in Chicago, you've got these protests in Portland.

00:25:55.000 These ICE guys are going to fear that they could walk outside and there could be a sniper taking shots at them.

00:26:02.000 I fear that this will escalate to escalate to a point where some ice guys will be doing a uh prisoner transit detainee transport, they'll see some far leftist, they'll have something in their hand that looks like a gun, ICE will shoot them. 0.59

00:26:15.000 The left will then say martyrs, martyrs, and it'll just escalate.

00:26:18.000 Yeah, I think the left is looking for their um immigrant George Floyd. 0.53

00:26:21.000 And uh they're they're desperately searching for it, and they're I I just saw a video today of someone at one of these protests acting like he had a firearm walking up to a lot of these uh National Guardsmen, and I'm like, what are you doing?

00:26:34.000 Like so I I I fear false flags, I fear that we are on a powder keg.

00:26:40.000 I I feel like the chain reaction type of events that have started after what happened to Charlie, there's no going back from.

00:26:47.000 And it's a situation that I fear for this nation and I fear for the future uh very severely, we need to take it seriously.

00:26:53.000 We need an off-ramp, we need to de-escalate uh tensions, but the opposite of that is happening.

00:26:58.000 Could you imagine 10 years ago if someone if if if someone came from the future while we were hanging out in your basement and they were like, Luke, Tim, in ten years, you guys are gonna be thanking President Donald Trump for deploying federal law enforcement into the cities in the United States.

00:27:13.000 We'd be like, What?

00:27:15.000 Are you crazy?

00:27:16.000 Well, that's why when it comes to de-escalation, that's why it's so important that Trump is doing what he's doing.

00:27:20.000 Cause for the right, I mean, like obviously the left, like Tim was Tim open, he was saying, you know, the rhetoric AOC is using is is similar to what the ice shooter is using.

00:27:29.000 And it's very true because the only thing that's separating these people that are actually acting and that are committing these acts of political violence from these people and these jobs is that they just have nothing to lose.

00:27:37.000 The people that are broadly speaking on the left have the same ideology, they just have something to lose, so they're not gonna act on it.

00:27:42.000 But so that's why with Trump, this is what allows for de-escalation or or an off ramp, is because the right doesn't really feel the need to lash out because we're not backed into a corner.

00:27:51.000 We we're we're winning.

00:27:52.000 We were winning before all this happened, and we're still winning now.

00:27:55.000 And Trump provides the opportunity to crack down on this.

00:27:58.000 There's a couple things, and uh, you know, I want to give a nod to Charlie on this.

00:28:01.000 You know, one of the things he was warning about right up until the end was what he called the lost boys of the West.

00:28:07.000 And basically, when you create a an economy, and this kind of goes back to some of the stuff where you started out with Tim, like the the uh occupy stuff, right?

00:28:15.000 Where you have this easy money, the inflation of assets, while while the little guy gets crushed.

00:28:21.000 Charlie was warning about this.

00:28:23.000 He was like, listen, they can't afford homes, they can't afford rent, they can't afford to get married, they can't afford to have kids, an increasingly large number of them.

00:28:31.000 And what they do is they get sucked down these rabbit holes online, they get radicalized, they get told that conservatives are not human.

00:28:39.000 You can lie about them, you can lie about them even if you're Jimmy Kimmel on ABC, you can lie about how they died.

00:28:44.000 And so you dehumanize them.

00:28:46.000 They're hearing this all the time that they're Nazis, that they're fascists.

00:28:49.000 You can, you know, it's it's a moral good to take them out.

00:28:53.000 And meanwhile, they're sitting there going, like, well, I can't afford anything.

00:28:56.000 I can't like afford to live.

00:28:57.000 We've flooded our market with cheap money.

00:28:59.000 Uh the incumbent class, the boomers and and such, have so much extraordinary wealth. 0.98

00:29:05.000 And screw it.

00:29:06.000 I'm just getting like, I'm gonna burn it all down.

00:29:07.000 And Charlie's whole goal was we have to get this generation, Gen Z to buy into the system, or we're all screwed. 0.96

00:29:15.000 And, you know, and it's that's why, like when Erica's saying, like this that young man, like Charlie was trying to reach those people.

00:29:23.000 He was trying to say, you can have a piece of this, and I'm working on your behalf.

00:29:27.000 We want a moonshot with new homes.

00:29:29.000 We're gonna build 10 million new homes, we're gonna make it affordable.

00:29:32.000 Black rock's not gonna be able to buy them.

00:29:33.000 We're gonna interest rates are gonna come down.

00:29:36.000 We got all this investment coming back in the country, there's gonna be jobs, there's gonna be opportunity.

00:29:40.000 This is the promise.

00:29:41.000 But he was like, hey, we're up against the clock.

00:29:43.000 It's what Yuri Besmanoff warned about when it came to demoralization.

00:29:46.000 When you look at extremist uh type of uh handbooks and you look into what causes extremism, it's usually people who don't have relations, don't have sex, don't have family, don't have relationships, that don't have an uh and and uh any kind of economic opportunities.

00:30:00.000 Um that's pretty much the modern youth.

00:30:02.000 So if you want to unwind that, I would argue that the establishment has been pushing for this for all the young males to feel like this, to be in this particular position.

00:30:11.000 And that position is an extremely reckless and dangerous one that we are all in right now, right?

00:30:15.000 Yeah, and you either get you either get Mamdaniism and Magioneism, or you get MAGA. 0.60

00:30:19.000 Yeah.

00:30:20.000 There's like two routes.

00:30:21.000 Once you've backed yourself into this debt crisis, once you've backed yourself into these inflated asset crises that we've gotten after COVID, especially, uh, but ever since 2000 the 2007, 2008 financial crisis.

00:30:33.000 Well, yeah.

00:30:33.000 I mean, that's that's why the left is so petrified of MAGA.

00:30:36.000 That's so why they're so petrified of what Charlie Kirk was doing, was because they were occupying the mainstream and reinventing it.

00:30:42.000 They were they were they were pushing the mainstream into the correct direction, and that's why that was so terrifying.

00:30:47.000 They were just so effective because it was providing a siphon for frustrated young men, but it was channeling it into something effective rather than these weird, you know, radical.

00:30:54.000 Well, yeah, it's the burn it all down people and the the societal anarchists versus the national revitalization people.

00:31:00.000 Yeah.

00:31:01.000 We believe that we can revitalize America because we believe America is exceptional.

00:31:05.000 We believe that it's providential, we believe that it is special.

00:31:08.000 And so it's worth fighting for, it's worth saving, and it's worth making sure that the next generation has a seat at the table and skin in the game.

00:31:14.000 And if we don't do that, then you're gonna get more and more radicalization.

00:31:18.000 If you have a marriage, if you have kids, if you're worried about your local playground and your local school, guess what?

00:31:24.000 You're not gonna burn it down because you don't want your kids to grow up in that world.

00:31:27.000 That's why Charlie was so adamant, get married, have kids.

00:31:30.000 Get, you know, get the MRS degree.

00:31:32.000 I don't care.

00:31:33.000 His message was very clear.

00:31:35.000 And when you see people that are getting estranged from the system, they're going to get radicalized, and they're gonna be attracted to the Mamdanis of the world who are the burn it all down people that that that fundamentally load the American system. 0.99

00:31:45.000 Right.

00:31:46.000 Well, I mean, Mamdani is not a bug of the system, it's a feature of the system.

00:31:49.000 This is the system that the ruling regime over the last few decades has created.

00:31:53.000 Is that a central casting?

00:31:54.000 They've created atomized young people. 0.97

00:31:56.000 And of course they're, I mean, like for young people, like I'm a Zoomer, I'm 24. 0.89

00:32:00.000 Like among people my age, if you're a centrist, you're like cringe and like an idiot.

00:32:03.000 Because it's like, why?

00:32:05.000 Why would you defend the system as it has existed?

00:32:08.000 And again, that's I'll go back to it.

00:32:09.000 I mean, that's why a MAGA is such an interesting potent force because it's the first time that we've had a movement that's in the mainstream that actually is effective, that you're actually seeing, oh, you can just deploy troops into Chicago and fix it.

00:32:18.000 Like you can just do things.

00:32:19.000 Yeah, you can just do things if you can just do things.

00:32:21.000 Yeah.

00:32:21.000 If Trump wants to deal with this radicalization problem, he really has to fix the economy.

00:32:25.000 And he should he should start at the US Federal Reserve banking system.

00:32:28.000 He should get rid of that whole system.

00:32:30.000 And he should get rid of it.

00:32:32.000 Let me let me let me pull this up.

00:32:33.000 Uh we'll jump to the story.

00:32:34.000 This is a poll from Ugov and the economists.

00:32:38.000 And it's a little hard to see, but uh basically what we have is reckless youth.

00:32:41.000 Quote, is it ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve their political goals?

00:32:47.000 From ages 18 to 39, around 30% of liberals say yes.

00:32:54.000 And among uh uh 40 to 59, it's around 15%.

00:32:57.000 That's crazy, and just slightly less than 10.

00:32:59.000 Conservatives have gone down.

00:33:02.000 Conservatives have actually de-radicalized.

00:33:04.000 Moderates have radicalized.

00:33:06.000 So moderates and liberals.

00:33:08.000 So it's important to understand how this graph is.

00:33:10.000 60 plus on the right, 40 to 59 in the middle, and 18 to 39.

00:33:14.000 The younger generation of liberals are extremely violent.

00:33:18.000 And what this means, people need to understand.

00:33:21.000 Here's what's really crazy about the 18 to 39 cohort.

00:33:24.000 Five years ago, we're talking about 13 to 34.

00:33:27.000 Meaning they weren't even polling these people.

00:33:30.000 Younger generations are becoming extremely radicalized.

00:33:34.000 And as the boomers, I was talking to this, I don't know, he's probably seven years.

00:33:38.000 Can I just say one thing?

00:33:39.000 Look at the date on that.

00:33:41.000 This is Charlie got assassinated on the September 10th.

00:33:44.000 This poll was taken.

00:33:47.000 That should send chills down your spine.

00:33:49.000 And this is why we've we saw so many people on social media celebrating.

00:33:52.000 Yeah.

00:33:53.000 I talked to an old boomer guy, he's probably 70, and I and he was talking politics, and I said, you know, the problem is we need more of you guys.

00:33:59.000 I was like, the the boomers, if you even look here, you can see liberal conservative and moderate boomers are less than 10% justification for violence. 0.60

00:34:08.000 The younger liberals are who went insane.

00:34:11.000 Younger conservatives are sane, younger moderates are losing it a little bit.

00:34:14.000 When these 18 to 39-year-olds are the 60 plus, when they're older, this whole graph, imagine where young liberals are gonna be.

00:34:22.000 They're gonna be 80%.

00:34:23.000 They're gonna be saying they want violence.

00:34:25.000 It's not going to be a third of the younger generation, it will be two thirds of the people.

00:34:29.000 I pray you're wrong.

00:34:30.000 I pray you're wrong.

00:34:31.000 Because the the escape hatch here as a nation is like what you were saying.

00:34:35.000 Yeah.

00:34:36.000 We are in a race against the economic clock.

00:34:39.000 We have to prove, and you know, by God's grace, I hope we get eight more years after Trump's turn.

00:34:44.000 But we have to we have to accomplish enough where there is enough of this this direct investment in our country.

00:34:50.000 There is enough new jobs, there's enough new innovation where there's a whole boom where people are actually invited in.

00:34:56.000 And and I and I believe that you pair that with uh self-deportations and deportations, where you know, one of the most promising stats that we've seen is that it's native-born Americans getting the jobs.

00:35:08.000 Because that is the social compact, right?

00:35:08.000 Yeah.

00:35:10.000 Where your compact is you you are born in this country and your government's going to care about you more than they do about somebody who doesn't who wasn't born here, right?

00:35:17.000 That's a central, central component of it.

00:35:20.000 And if you're a young man that has all this energy, you want to be able to get married.

00:35:24.000 Right?

00:35:25.000 One of the one of the most evolved forms of societal technology is monogamy.

00:35:30.000 get married to one woman, that you're not competing against the alpha guy that gets like, you know, a harem of 15 and you're left without any eligible women.

00:35:38.000 You get to put your energy into building your family.

00:35:40.000 You get to put your energy into raising your children.

00:35:42.000 You get to put your energy in having a job and building wealth.

00:35:45.000 If you can do those things, you're gonna have a very stable society.

00:35:49.000 This is why the West, you know, has been so successful, is because we had this ethic of monogamism or monogamy.

00:35:56.000 And you had you had people with uh innovative ideas that created economic opportunity.

00:36:01.000 Those pieces, we are in this clock, there's race against the clock.

00:36:04.000 If we can do those things, I believe that we will convert the lost, meaning that this you see this 30% of the of the radical liberals, they're gonna they're gonna eventually age out.

00:36:14.000 They're gonna lose some of that steam, and they're gonna realize that hey, buying into the system isn't the worst thing.

00:36:18.000 That's my hope.

00:36:19.000 I actually will will offer up some other optimism in a very dark way.

00:36:23.000 And to to offer up a counter to what I was saying about liberals getting crazier, uh liberals don't have kids. 0.97

00:36:28.000 If they do, if it's it's usually uh not often, but they have them on accident and then terminate them before they come to fruition, which is horrifying.

00:36:35.000 Or that one song you were playing.

00:36:37.000 Or they uh yeah, brick by uh Ben Folds about his getting his girl.

00:36:41.000 That song is so brutal.

00:36:42.000 That's so dark.

00:36:43.000 It's very dark.

00:36:44.000 I'm so glad you told me about that because like I would sing it just kind of because you know it's one of those songs you sing in the background.

00:36:50.000 Well, I just figured it was a toxic relationship.

00:36:52.000 Yeah, I didn't think it was about oh, she got pregnant and now she's bringing me down with her. 1.00

00:36:56.000 I don't want this baby.

00:36:57.000 That's dark.

00:36:57.000 Yeah, that's that's dark.

00:36:59.000 But but hey, hey, we look at these violent liberals and we go, it's very dark, but there won't be very many of them.

00:37:06.000 Let me let me add one more piece to that.

00:37:07.000 I agree with you.

00:37:08.000 I remember Charlie Charlie Charlie said something up to that effect, you know, a few weeks before it happened, and he got like you know, a bunch of people like, oh, I can't believe you said that.

00:37:08.000 We're gonna outbreed them.

00:37:16.000 Um, yeah, it's true because if you actually look at the fertility rates, I think if you look at conservatives in the West, we're still above replacement, or like 2.7, but liberals are like 1.6.

00:37:26.000 Christian Christians tend to be, I think we we've gone over this quite a bit.

00:37:29.000 I think Christians average like 1.8.

00:37:31.000 It's not a good thing.

00:37:32.000 Oh, I saw a different stat.

00:37:33.000 The official data from Pew is Catholics and evangelicals are above replacement 2.2, 2.3.

00:37:38.000 Yeah.

00:37:39.000 It's the main lines and like the kind of non-affiliated Christians are dragging it down. 1.00

00:37:43.000 Yeah, well, you know, that's the myths.

00:37:44.000 Those aren't even counting.

00:37:46.000 That's like you've just there's like the the the random like uh exception to the rule, but you know that's the Catholics are all cheering at you.

00:37:52.000 Well, I we love the Catholics. 0.58

00:37:53.000 Here's what I would say though, this is the other piece to that, and this is it ties into the story that kind of led us in here.

00:37:59.000 You have to punish evil.

00:38:01.000 Yeah, right.

00:38:02.000 If you do not punish evil, society falls apart.

00:38:05.000 You get more radicalization, you get more vigilanteism, you have to punish evil.

00:38:10.000 And when when those those progressives that think it's really cool to commit violence, well, guess what?

00:38:15.000 When they see their buddy that just got like, you know, got the death penalty by the state, by the way, not some vigilante.

00:38:23.000 When the state and the the power the power of the sword that's been you know invested into our representative government, when they actually levy a charge and they follow through on it, and then we all bring the shame that that somebody like this deserves upon that.

00:38:37.000 We heap our scorn on these people, it's not nearly as cool.

00:38:41.000 I'll tell you one thing that really really bothers me.

00:38:44.000 And there is a challenge in that our memories are actually short, no matter how smart we are, no matter how good at our jobs or clever we think we are.

00:38:51.000 Our memories are actually very short.

00:38:52.000 It's fascinating how many people, even on the right, don't remember the severity of the COVID lockdowns.

00:38:58.000 But that being said, I want to make sure just to grab this context of it was not it was less than a year ago that a healthcare CEO is assassinated in cold blood, shot in the back in New York.

00:39:09.000 The alleged assassin, Luigi Mangiani has been venerated by the left, and we all warned Charlie, especially, that this is an assassination culture.

00:39:18.000 The left is now seeing that they will get praised when they do this.

00:39:23.000 They are gonna view themselves like martyrs or heroes of like these civil rights icons, or like John Brown.

00:39:30.000 Not even a year after this, they kill Charlie Kirk.

00:39:35.000 Because in the mind of these liberals, what's their worst case scenario?

00:39:40.000 They will be celebrated, they will be celebrities, and when they win their revolution, they'll be freed.

00:39:45.000 That's the terrifying reality.

00:39:47.000 We need to make sure there's that young people think no way, you can't do that.

00:39:52.000 You will get crushed.

00:39:54.000 Do not do it.

00:39:55.000 That is not the way to get things done.

00:39:57.000 If you know, the the problem I see with these people is that the state has been for the longest time unwilling to level this force against them.

00:40:07.000 Like I was mentioning with the George Floyd riots, the Ferguson riots with Baltimore, I mean, it was insane.

00:40:13.000 There were some issues for sure with with police, but for the most part, I watch all these videos where either the police are letting these people run around and smash windows, like in DC, which I'm or unable to stop them.

00:40:26.000 So these young radicals are told, you will win when you do this.

00:40:29.000 We've got funding, we've got lawyers, you will not spend a day in jail, you will get a badge of honor.

00:40:34.000 And then they got money for it and they got compensated for it because they won the loss of the city.

00:40:38.000 In DC, New York, the writers won over a million dollars.

00:40:42.000 Same in New York, I think same in St. Louis.

00:40:44.000 Insane.

00:40:45.000 It's it's another thing.

00:40:46.000 It's it's a feature of this, it's not a bug.

00:40:46.000 I mean I said it again.

00:40:48.000 It's like this is the point of the regime is they're trying to demoralize young people.

00:40:52.000 Like if you're a young American patriot and you're going to New York City, and you just see disorder and disarray and these delinquents getting let off left and right.

00:40:59.000 That tells you that this is your this is your principal city, and it's and it's a total disaster, and it's just embarrassing.

00:41:05.000 You feel embarrassed to be an American broken windows.

00:41:07.000 It's demoralization.

00:41:08.000 Yeah, but it's it's worse than that.

00:41:10.000 But this is why, you know, one of the people when Trump was kind of reasserting control of DC that was spoke very clearly from a moral standpoint was Judge Janine Piero.

00:41:21.000 And now she's, I guess, U.S. attorney.

00:41:23.000 All right.

00:41:24.000 She she was like, I don't care if they're 14, they're going in.

00:41:27.000 You know, because these kids are these kids are, you know, doing unthinkable crimes, and but they're 14.

00:41:31.000 Oh, we can't punish them.

00:41:32.000 So what do they do?

00:41:32.000 They go out and do it some more.

00:41:33.000 They go in these roving gangs.

00:41:35.000 The second you bring the hammer down on this and you you actually have a backbone, don't listen to what the left says.

00:41:41.000 Oh, these end of democracy.

00:41:43.000 They've got one card.

00:41:44.000 They've got one card.

00:41:45.000 The end of democracy fascism.

00:41:47.000 Well, it didn't work in November.

00:41:49.000 All right.

00:41:49.000 You know, and we've got to have some, we gotta have our own confidence, self-confidence that just doing the common sense thing is ultimately going to pay dividends.

00:41:56.000 And if it doesn't, then yeah, we're all screwed up.

00:41:58.000 Well, yeah, they they they they a line was crossed, and everyone, especially here knows it.

00:42:02.000 So when they say, Oh, but our democracy, I'll be like, I kind of thought democracy was was threatened when you killed Charlie Kirk.

00:42:10.000 Yeah, right.

00:42:11.000 When when the guy who was hosting college debates who was willing to allow anyone to have the conversation and come up to him and challenge him and prove him wrong.

00:42:20.000 This is why they wanted him so badly to be MAGA.

00:42:22.000 They wanted him to be a groiper or a MAGA or whatever. 1.00

00:42:25.000 Because then they they could wipe wipe their hands clear and clean of everything that they've said, every nasty smear, every hyperbolic, hyperventilating uh lie that they have heaped on us because then they could just you know what?

00:42:38.000 It was not our fault.

00:42:39.000 It's one of yours.

00:42:40.000 This is why it was so crucial, this lie, and why the fact that he has not apologized is infuriating.

00:42:44.000 Jimmy Kimmel.

00:42:45.000 Yep.

00:42:46.000 Because it's it's it's basically just uh sweeping it under the rug like they never had any complicity in this.

00:42:52.000 And it's just not true.

00:42:53.000 I mean, I listen, I ABC is free to make its own mistakes, but uh I can say I I hope it's a Pyrrhic victory.

00:42:59.000 I hope people will not watch that.

00:43:00.000 I was gonna ask you guys who do you think um or what do you think is responsible for this type of extremism on the left.

00:43:06.000 I mean, I have my own theories, but I think we need to quantify that before we start to unravel and try to fix that particular problem.

00:43:12.000 Because what do you think?

00:43:14.000 I think it's a combination of berating, beating down young men and boys in our society, not giving them any opportunities, not giving them any chances, telling them that they're imperfect no matter what, that they're always wrong, that they need to apologize.

00:43:27.000 Uh I I I think I think that type of uh berating, as well as the institutions in our system that have robbed them blind of any kind of economic opportunities, specifically the the fractional Frederick Reserve banking system.

00:43:40.000 I'm gonna keep talking about that because that just pisses me off the way everyone gets robbed here.

00:43:45.000 Uh but but I think social media played another role, and I think there was a deliberate effort.

00:43:50.000 Social media has always been in the control.

00:43:52.000 Many people don't believe this, but in the intel agencies, the intel agencies run the algorithms, and I think that there's a lot more of this to kind of delve into, yeah, specifically when it comes to radicalizing people and moving people that the intel agencies have moved to this particular point, which gives them the perfect pretext to now kind of to clamp down.

00:44:11.000 It's the one ring, though.

00:44:12.000 I agree with you.

00:44:12.000 I think you know, I had some activist friends who called they always call Facebook face CIA book.

00:44:17.000 It's the it's it's the great dossier of every American, building a profile on everyone, and you do it for them.

00:44:23.000 But uh I think it was the algorithms.

00:44:26.000 I believe that the US government loved the idea of being able to control through social media manipulate what people saw and what they believed.

00:44:34.000 There are theories based on uh the work done by uh Barrett Brown and Project PM that the Libyan uh revolution or whatever you want to call it was because Western uh intelligence agencies were using social media to manipulate the people on the ground and manipulate us into believing they supported this foreign intervention.

00:44:51.000 What I think happened though is these platforms were trying to maximize attention, and they found very early on, when they switched to algorithmic feeds, that hate and anger generated the most amount of attention and shares.

00:45:07.000 And so this naturally gave rise to videos about police brutality.

00:45:12.000 Because you actually even had, you know, Alex Jones and you had the far left complaining about police brutality because nobody likes injustice.

00:45:18.000 These websites then started these companies that were using them to make money realized it's it's not just police brutality, but racism, sexism, all of these isms will give you a boost in the algorithm because people get offended and angry and they want to share it.

00:45:32.000 All of a sudden, Buzzfeed, Hoffington Post, Mike.com, you name it, all turned into these liberal activist blogs because of how much money they were making.

00:45:43.000 Whenever something on the right would try and rise up, they'd ban it for being hate speech or whatever because they didn't want to lose advertisers who are scared.

00:45:51.000 I think the intelligence agencies did want to utilize these platforms.

00:45:54.000 Clearly that failed them, like the one ring because Trump ends up getting elected and then working towards shutting down all of the things they've been trying to do.

00:46:03.000 I think they uh uh, and I mean like the uniparty establishment politics in this country have been crushed, and it's uh it's it's somewhat their own making.

00:46:10.000 Yeah, well, I I think what they're doing, like the ICs and the and they're in the social media big platforms, these sorts of things, is they're just exploiting the underlying philosophy behind leftism, which is it's anti-hierarchical.

00:46:22.000 And now we have an actual tangible political force that can that's telling people no.

00:46:26.000 Like, no, you can't beat people up in the streets.

00:46:28.000 No, you can't do this.

00:46:29.000 No, you can't change your gender. 0.97

00:46:30.000 No, racism's not the reason that like you suck.

00:46:33.000 Like they're we have an actual party that's telling people no, and that drives them absolutely wild.

00:46:37.000 And then and then the ICs, the the social media platforms, they're just exploiting that that philosophy behind that people already have.

00:46:43.000 I want to pull the story up.

00:46:44.000 We got this on the post millennial.

00:46:46.000 And Omar says Charlie Kirk has no legacy to honor in hate-filled interview with Don Lemon.

00:46:52.000 Repel and Omar doubled down on a criticism of the late conservative activist Charlie Kirk during an interview with Don Lemon, saying she has nothing to apologize for and dismissing any effort to portray Kirk's work as honorable.

00:47:02.000 Quote, I have nothing to apologize for, you know.

00:47:05.000 It is a tragedy that Charlie Kirk was killed in that way.

00:47:07.000 I feel for his widow and his children.

00:47:09.000 They will have to live with that for the rest of their lives, but there is no legacy to honor.

00:47:12.000 It was a legacy filled with bigotry, hatred, and white supremacy.

00:47:16.000 I also want to throw in uh this video from our old friend Don Lemon.

00:47:22.000 Men who look like you, men who vote like you, and men who sound like you. 0.70

00:47:28.000 White men, something is broken. 1.00

00:47:33.000 Something is cracked deep inside when so many of you believe the answer to fear, to loss, to change is violence.

00:47:48.000 Shall I uh go back and cite the data we just had a moment ago when Don Lemon says something so shockingly insane and racist?

00:47:55.000 But like you know, um obviously these are hope high profile incidents, but like is he going to address gang violence in America?

00:48:06.000 Like what if they're doing do we need to like have the the conversation about you know how many of the murders in this country are committed by a very small proportion of like pretty young black men? 0.92

00:48:18.000 Six percent of the population, about yeah.

00:48:20.000 I mean, like are we gonna are we are you gonna address that, Don?

00:48:23.000 Are you gonna address the fact that it's your side that's radicalized?

00:48:26.000 Yeah, I mean, you could take it either way, but they're both sort of like shooting that.

00:48:29.000 I I actually have no idea what he's talking about.

00:48:30.000 Like, what are white men guilty of being like nice to police officers?

00:48:32.000 Like is that the cracking of the case?

00:48:33.000 But by the way, like we didn't burn down right uh cities, we didn't burn down and loot businesses.

00:48:40.000 Yeah, we didn't have mostly peaceful rioting after Charlie.

00:48:42.000 We prayed.

00:48:43.000 Didn't he marry a white guy? 1.00

00:48:45.000 What do they say?

00:48:46.000 Uh colonizer in the sheets and uh what's the what's the phrasing?

00:48:51.000 Uh revolutionary in the streets.

00:48:52.000 Revolutionary in the streets colonized in the sheets.

00:48:54.000 I'm gonna intentionally make this personal and hokey for a reason.

00:48:58.000 I was skateboarding at Freedom Plaza in DC.

00:49:02.000 Uh I'm pretty good at skateboarding.

00:49:05.000 These leftists went on forums and said that Tim Poole couldn't even do a shove it.

00:49:10.000 Now, for those that don't know, that's like a very basic trick children do, and I was actually doing pretty advanced tricks.

00:49:14.000 Now, the reason I intentionally make this hokey is the reason they say this is because in their cult of people, that the liberal cult has their high priests like Jimmy Kimmel who know they're lying, and the run-of-the-mill liberals who don't pay attention or read the news, They just believe whatever it is they're told.

00:49:32.000 The purpose of lying about someone like me is to create in their mind, ignore him.

00:49:37.000 He's not a real skateboarder.

00:49:38.000 And so they want to try and isolate me, my views, my team, my company from the industry.

00:49:44.000 I bring this up intentionally, as I said, making it hokey.

00:49:48.000 The idea that Charlie Kirk has no legacy to honor is the stupidest thing imaginable, considering TPUSA, Amfest already has people claim saying saying it's bigger than the RNC and it's the biggest right wing political convention, if not the biggest political convention in the country over the past several years since it's since its inception.

00:50:11.000 She says this.

00:50:12.000 There's no legacy to honor.

00:50:14.000 Because to the liberals who follow her, they don't pay attention.

00:50:19.000 There was that viral video.

00:50:20.000 I don't know if you should play it.

00:50:24.000 She said uh she she was gloating saying Charlie is not gonna be a martyr.

00:50:28.000 No one he wasn't big enough.

00:50:30.000 Well, maybe, yeah.

00:50:31.000 Not that I I thought you were talking about that uh about that we we talked about before the show, the the black mother and Charlie was like, Praise God.

00:50:37.000 Oh, yeah, I mean that that was a great one.

00:50:39.000 Yeah, I mean, but there's tons of that.

00:50:40.000 I mean, you know, Charlie what they do, and this is why I I mean, not this I I genuinely don't mean this as a selfish plug plug, but you know, we did an episode on Thursday where we went through all of the what what we would think the most viral on the left clips, taking Charlie out of context, whether that be the brain processing power of black women, not true. 0.91

00:51:00.000 Yeah, not at all true.

00:51:01.000 He didn't say that.

00:51:02.000 He talked about Sheila uh Jackson Lee and Michelle Obama and Katanji Brown Jackson who all have basically said we wouldn't have made it without affirmative action.

00:51:11.000 And Charlie's like, yeah, we know you know it this is not surprised if anybody's listening to.

00:51:19.000 And and by the way, we we went through like our our chats and what we were, you know, in our show, what we were talking about before he said that, and we you know, we went through the black pilot thing, which was you know, he didn't worry about black pilots now because the black pilots now didn't have this quota system.

00:51:35.000 Meanwhile, the United Airlines uh pilot or uh CEO is saying that each new pilot corps is going to be 50-50.

00:51:42.000 Well, that's all well and good until you find out only nine percent of people of color and women apply to be pilots, new pilots. 1.00

00:51:49.000 91% of the the pilot population happens to be white men.

00:51:53.000 So you're you're telling me in that instance that you're gonna populate 50% of your pilots out of 9% of the population of new pilots.

00:52:02.000 That how are you not going to lower standards in that instance?

00:52:05.000 So Charlie was saying, if you're going to move forward with this, I might have suspicion when I get on that plane because I'm gonna know that you're gonna have to lower standards.

00:52:13.000 So whether whatever the issue was, there is a very logical explanation for why Charlie said this.

00:52:19.000 They're intentionally trying to, you know, obscure the truth, but like just so brazenly lie to your point.

00:52:25.000 Like, how do you even make that point with a straight face?

00:52:27.000 Like, did you not just see what has been you know galvanized around the world?

00:52:32.000 Are you are you do you think you could just repeat the lie enough and it'll become the truth?

00:52:36.000 Like, not this time.

00:52:37.000 We all saw it.

00:52:38.000 We all saw it.

00:52:39.000 We did we saw vigils and prayer lights and and the memorial.

00:52:42.000 We saw that the the gospel being presented to the biggest audience in the history of humanity.

00:52:47.000 We all saw it.

00:52:48.000 I will I will say this.

00:52:49.000 As much as I have complained about liberals, I was shocked to discover on my Facebook or Instagram defending the assassin, praising the assassination.

00:52:59.000 There were also very many liberals who I saw come out in support of Charlie and TP USA.

00:53:05.000 There was some good ones.

00:53:06.000 There were some there are some throw back to skateboarding, because this is what I do, right?

00:53:09.000 There are some professional skateboarders who I did not know to be political at all.

00:53:14.000 And boy, did they piss off the left when some of the biggest names in skateboarding came out and said, Oh shot, Steve Caballero, a legend in skateboarding, came out and said, you know, uh he condolences and said kind words.

00:53:27.000 All of these these lefty skateboarders were just so angry.

00:53:31.000 You can't tell the truth.

00:53:32.000 How dare you tell the truth?

00:53:33.000 Well, I think you know, we've talked about the silent majority for a long time.

00:53:37.000 People who obviously don't believe in the sterilization of children or sex changes for kids or whatever, but were too scared to speak up because they'd lose their jobs.

00:53:45.000 What ends up happening then is with something so shocking as what happened to Charlie, I think a lot of people snapped to attention and said, We better speak now or forever hold our peace.

00:53:55.000 Well, that's listen, we I am a glass hapful on America guy.

00:53:59.000 I I am.

00:54:00.000 I really I'm I it's not just because I have to be, it's not just because my job.

00:54:03.000 I genuinely believe that this nation is providential.

00:54:07.000 I do.

00:54:07.000 Now it doesn't mean we get to have it forever.

00:54:09.000 Doesn't mean that we're guaranteed anything.

00:54:11.000 We gotta fight for it.

00:54:12.000 But you know, when you talk about let liberals coming out and actually defending the truth, that's a good sign.

00:54:19.000 It's a good sign.

00:54:20.000 When you see moderates coming out to defend the truth, that's a good sign.

00:54:23.000 This is insane that we've come this far, no doubt.

00:54:27.000 But there is a belief in me, and there is a prayer that I have that we are going to see, we're gonna see things politically that we couldn't have even imagined in November because there are enough a remnant of sanity in this this country that is gonna say we can't have this anymore.

00:54:46.000 We cannot have this.

00:54:47.000 This is so shocking, so terrifying.

00:54:49.000 This is so like I'm so freaked out for my kids that this is this is a potential reality that we're sliding down that we say no more.

00:54:57.000 My my prediction is in about a year's time, we will get uh at least within, but I think bye.

00:55:04.000 I I think one year from now, there will likely be another high profile targeted assassination, perhaps attempt or terror attack.

00:55:12.000 I'm not saying the probability is really, really high.

00:55:14.000 There's a lot of things that happen between now and then, so I think I said maybe it'll be six percent likelihood, whatever.

00:55:19.000 I just they see that as the strongest possibility because you're wrong.

00:55:22.000 I I I do too.

00:55:25.000 Um, and I'll stress this again.

00:55:26.000 I think 94% chance something, anything other happens, but this the the assassination of Charlie has exposed so many of these people celebrating, lying, defending, and it's it's it's it's two weeks, and we're going almost on three weeks, and they're gonna they're doubling down and they're emboldening themselves and they're pushing harder now with like what Illan Omar is saying.

00:55:50.000 Where will we end up a year from now, just before the midterms?

00:55:53.000 I think the Democrats will be hurting because their ideology is clearly pissing a lot of people off, scaring a lot of people.

00:56:02.000 We saw this with the with Trump winning the the popular vote, the Republicans sweeping everything, people are waking up.

00:56:10.000 I'm seeing there's liberals that I know that that got have gotten red pilled in the past five years, especially with how bad Joe Biden was.

00:56:16.000 What does a desperate ideology do when they're looking at a midterm defeat?

00:56:21.000 We know what they're willing to do, we know what they're capable of doing.

00:56:24.000 I don't believe that they will simply just say, guys, it looks like we're gonna lose.

00:56:28.000 Let's do nothing.

00:56:30.000 I think are you talking false flags or something?

00:56:32.000 No, I'm saying fringe leftists are gonna get violent.

00:56:35.000 I'm saying we we've already seen the far left get violent.

00:56:39.000 I think we're going to see with the ice raids, Donald Trump sending in the National Guard, they're not going to accept that the people of this country have spoken.

00:56:48.000 Trump won a popular vote.

00:56:50.000 The people said, hey, deal with the immigration crisis.

00:56:52.000 The left is saying no, and there have been three terror attacks on ice already.

00:56:57.000 I hate to say it because people are gonna get mad at me for being blackpilled, but guys, Trump, it's not even we won.

00:57:04.000 We all voted, we said, listen, we don't like what Joe Biden was doing with this country.

00:57:08.000 We don't like his policies, his economic policies are no good, his foreign policy was not good, his immigration policy was a nightmare.

00:57:13.000 Trump, please reverse these things.

00:57:15.000 He's begun to, and they are using terrorism, terrorism, and violence to try and stop and obstruct.

00:57:21.000 They have used assassinations.

00:57:23.000 Can I say one thing about that?

00:57:24.000 I didn't like when we would do this and we would say they.

00:57:27.000 Yeah.

00:57:28.000 We talked about this a little bit.

00:57:29.000 Because I was like, well, it's not all of them.

00:57:31.000 But then when you see Ilhan Omar, and you see Don Lemon, and you see AOC, and you see these people hemming and hawing and trying to hedge and Jimmy Kimmel lying about who committed the atrocity, then it becomes a they.

00:57:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:57:46.000 Then it becomes a you all share this burden and you guys are all complicit, you are culpable.

00:57:52.000 And like, you know, I want us to get unif unity.

00:57:55.000 I remember we we did the JD Vance hosted Charlie's show on the Monday after.

00:58:00.000 And he took some flack from these same people because he said, listen, I want unity, but first we have to acknowledge the truth.

00:58:07.000 And the truth is that there is one side of the aisle that's propagating this stuff, and you guys have to come to grips with that.

00:58:13.000 And so, yeah, I'm into the they now.

00:58:15.000 It is a it is a collective guilt that we have to deal with, and they have to reform and call themselves out.

00:58:15.000 Yeah.

00:58:21.000 Well, because it's like, I mean, there's there's people on the right that are like, well, it's not all of them.

00:58:24.000 I'm like, if every single one of their mainstream pundits is endorsing this kind of rhetoric, can you point me into like the dissidents on their side?

00:58:30.000 And they do, and it's like a random stream you've never heard of.

00:58:32.000 Well, it's like they're in lockstep, and then when you have Elon Omar saying there's no legacy to speak of, and he's speaking, she's speaking about Charlie Kirk.

00:58:38.000 That's he's representing America.

00:58:38.000 What?

00:58:39.000 It's representing American values, Christian values. 0.80

00:58:41.000 So she's saying an anti American rhetoric, she's saying, America has no legacy to speak of, Christians have no legacy to speak of.

00:58:46.000 Those are those are fighting words, whether you like it or not.

00:58:49.000 And that's why people on the right have to wake up of what we're up against.

00:58:51.000 You need to believe in them when they tell you these things.

00:58:53.000 I had uh a liberal guy that I know hit me up and say, turns out he was a griper. 0.99

00:59:00.000 And I messaged how soon after.

00:59:03.000 What was this like four or five days?

00:59:05.000 This is around the time that uh uh the Jimmy Kimmel stuff was going down.

00:59:09.000 And uh on my Facebook, they were making drawing comics.

00:59:13.000 They drew a comic meme that they were sharing and going viral, explaining what gripers were and how Charlie's a uh the assassin of Charlie Kirk was a was a griper.

00:59:22.000 And it was shocking lies.

00:59:26.000 They made up this fake one where they're like, oh, uh gripers sing bella chow.

00:59:30.000 No, they don't.

00:59:31.000 They the groupers don't sing bella chow.

00:59:33.000 They don't even know what that is.

00:59:35.000 When I saw that, I was like, it's it's they.

00:59:38.000 The fact that they'd be willing to go on Facebook and say outright, Charlie Kirk got assassination, yeah, but then whatever they wanted, instead of just being like, guys, no way, we're not playing this game right now.

00:59:48.000 I mean, you know what's crazy to me is that when George Floyd died, even Ben Shapiro came out and said, guys, this looks really bad, and it was wrong, it shouldn't have happened.

00:59:54.000 Conservatives have no problem being like nobody wants anyone killed.

00:59:57.000 Okay?

00:59:58.000 This this shouldn't have happened.

00:59:59.000 And then the left comes out and celebrates in cheers.

01:00:03.000 And it and it is here's here's the important thing, right?

01:00:06.000 Right now, you have this uh this Mormon church was attacked.

01:00:09.000 And it's looking like the guy was a Trump-supporting war vet.

01:00:12.000 The motivation appears to be something related internal to the church, not politically motivated in a broad mainstream sense.

01:00:20.000 So here's the point I'm going to make.

01:00:22.000 I don't care if the liberals are like, look, he was a MAGA guy who's a Trump supporter.

01:00:25.000 I'm like, sure, what was his motivating ideology?

01:00:27.000 When Ilhan Omar and AOC go on the House floor and speak an ideology verbatim to the alleged assassin.

01:00:35.000 I'm like, that's what we are concerned about.

01:00:38.000 That AOC's ideology.

01:00:43.000 The the these violent murderers have the same world view.

01:00:47.000 Okay, so that that means AOC should be saying to my followers and people who hear me, do not be violent.

01:00:52.000 She won't do it.

01:00:53.000 I have no problem saying to everybody on the right, the day Charlie died, I said cooler heads must prevail.

01:01:00.000 We cannot have retaliation or violence.

01:01:02.000 This needs to be handled by law enforcement.

01:01:04.000 This is what we do.

01:01:05.000 They can't do it.

01:01:07.000 And when when I when I say they, again, AOC went on the House floor to smear and besmirch Charlie's good name.

01:01:14.000 Not even two weeks.

01:01:15.000 Not even she couldn't give him a moment.

01:01:20.000 When they started booing and yelling.

01:01:21.000 That was a mask-off moment.

01:01:23.000 That is, I think, going to go down as one of the most disgraceful moments in American history.

01:01:29.000 I want to play this clip from Bill Marr's show, which uh, boy, Bill, I just want to say this before we play it.

01:01:34.000 Welcome to the Republican Party.

01:01:37.000 The basic problem we have in America is conservatives think the liberals are insane, and they're not completely wrong.

01:01:45.000 Now, I don't think most liberals are insane, but neither do they make it clear they disapprove of the ones who are, and their cowardice in not marginalizing their own crazies has been their downfall.

01:01:56.000 I couldn't get Neil deGrasse Tyson, a genius scientist and preeminent scientific voice in the media to agree that it was ridiculous for scientific American and the Atlantic to be claiming that separating sports by sex doesn't make sense.

01:02:14.000 Yes, it does.

01:02:16.000 Actually, it makes perfect sense.

01:02:19.000 And it's obvious that it does.

01:02:21.000 Look at it.

01:02:23.000 And there's a lot of stuff like that on the left.

01:02:25.000 And when conservatives see it, they say, I'm sorry, we're just not going to go along with reinventing society, often pointlessly, even if we have to cancel democracy to do it.

01:02:36.000 That's what they're saying.

01:02:38.000 They see gender is only a construct and sex is assigned at birth, and they say, we're not doing that.

01:02:44.000 Transing kids by self-diagnosis with no age limit, no parental notification, and no acknowledgement of social contagion, not doing it. 0.93

01:02:54.000 Asylum now covers any reason for anyone to come to America, not doing it. 1.00

01:02:59.000 Homelessness is a lifestyle. 0.80

01:03:01.000 Natural immunity doesn't count anymore.

01:03:04.000 Whiteness is toxic, penises in women's prisons, welcoming the intifada. 1.00

01:03:09.000 We're not doing it.

01:03:11.000 And so folks.

01:03:18.000 If we are ever gonna get back to the old America, that's gotta be the Democrats part of the bargain. 0.62

01:03:24.000 Stop coming up with radically new and often terrible ideas, and then the next breath insist there be no debate about any of it.

01:03:32.000 That if you don't see it right away and go along, you're bad, stupid, and deplorable.

01:03:37.000 As if you were saying, duh, two plus two equals five, isn't that obvious?

01:03:41.000 Yeah, it's obvious you can't add.

01:03:43.000 Thank you.

01:03:49.000 You can't just say shit.

01:03:52.000 Math is racist, queers for Palestine, looting is cool. 1.00

01:03:56.000 Healthy at any weight.

01:03:58.000 If the men's football team played the woman's team, it would be a tie. 0.51

01:04:04.000 You can't just say shit.

01:04:09.000 Oh, poor Ben.

01:04:10.000 you can but it doesn't make it true because you're not harry potter Smug self-righteousness in the defense of some of the dumbest ideas to ever come down the pike is not a formula that's really working for you.

01:04:31.000 Because here's one thing I can promise every liberal in this country.

01:04:35.000 The Democrats can win every election from now until forever.

01:04:39.000 And the people who now hold the reins of power will not give a shit and will not give it back if they think you're still nutty.

01:04:53.000 So uh that was that was great.

01:04:55.000 And I know that conservatives are probably still rolling their eyes at Bill, but oh, poor Bill Maher, he's a Republican now.

01:05:01.000 He may as well be a moderate Republican because everything he just said is why so many people have left the left.

01:05:07.000 That's true.

01:05:08.000 The thing is, like uh totally totally agreed, like the Democrats have to hold up their end of the bargain if we want to restore old America, so to speak.

01:05:15.000 But the problem is like they're do we really trust Democrats to like moderate their own side?

01:05:19.000 Like they've failed at this over and over again, it's results in more and more violence.

01:05:22.000 So it's like that's why the Trump admin has had to come in here and restore the conditions that would make it possible to return to old America.

01:05:28.000 Because there's not really there's not really a partner for negotiation anymore.

01:05:31.000 They keep shooting us.

01:05:32.000 The the crazy thing to me is the normal political dichotomy for most of my younger life was you and me.

01:05:39.000 I was left, you are right, we agree on most things, and they had life arguments on like the limits of tax policy.

01:05:46.000 Marginal tax rate.

01:05:47.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

01:05:47.000 You're you're kidding, we can't increase the tax by 0.5.

01:05:50.000 No, I think that now it's okay.

01:05:53.000 Well, the tax thing aside, we'll figure that one out later.

01:05:55.000 These people are trying to give children sex changes.

01:05:57.000 Like and tax wider neighborhoods more.

01:05:59.000 Yeah.

01:06:00.000 You know, open the borders.

01:06:02.000 Exactly.

01:06:02.000 Oh, yeah, just completely flood the borders with drugs and everything, and just you know, say that we need to be compassionate on 10 million people that we don't know.

01:06:09.000 This is what I often said was remarkable about Amphest is that not only did you guys have me on stage, you got Luke, you have Ian of all the five.

01:06:20.000 I fought that one, but yeah.

01:06:22.000 I won.

01:06:23.000 Yeah, backstage.

01:06:26.000 But but we didn't uh jank.

01:06:28.000 I mean, we we took some backlash for that, but it was you know, you did the right thing.

01:06:28.000 Exactly.

01:06:32.000 Yeah, it was in the it was in the spirit of like, hey, you're actually you've emerged as one of the saner voices.

01:06:37.000 We totally disagree on how to fix things.

01:06:40.000 Don't like we will not agree on that stuff.

01:06:42.000 But listen, we agree to do it or to disagree agreeably.

01:06:46.000 This is I think it was the right thing to do.

01:06:49.000 And this is how you create a culture where you say, we are we are re-redefining, we are we are bringing it back to what the left and the right was supposed to be.

01:06:59.000 People who can plainly and easily say, I'm sorry for your loss, I can't believe it's like a psychopath would do such a thing and not celebrate it.

01:07:06.000 And when you have Amphest saying, we will allow liberals to join us and have this debate, you're saying this is where life is happening.

01:07:15.000 You guys off in the fringes, we don't want to have anything to do with you.

01:07:17.000 You're you're violent, you're dangerous.

01:07:19.000 And create that opportunity.

01:07:20.000 So I, you know, I always say this: there's a there's like a viral story right now with Emma Watson, you know, from Harry Potter saying she loves J.K. Rowling now.

01:07:28.000 And J.K. Rowling came out and was like, oh wow, now you say it after she was getting death threats and she got kicked off of like the change.

01:07:37.000 I haven't seen this story.

01:07:38.000 The only change that happened as to why Emma Watson now has no problem publicly saying she loves J.K. Rowling is that we we are winning.

01:07:45.000 The conversation around this trans ideology is getting pushback.

01:07:50.000 Emma Watson is a fair weather activist.

01:07:53.000 Now that it's unpopular to be in favor of giving children sex change, she's going, oh, um, you know, J.K. Rowling's so great, I love her.

01:08:02.000 And J.K. Rowling's like, nah, nah.

01:08:05.000 You didn't, you know, J.K. Rowling stood up for what she believed in and got hell for it.

01:08:09.000 And these these prominent personalities on the left will say whatever they're told to say by the murmuration of the cult.

01:08:16.000 And my point in bringing this up, I say we have to give them a there needs to be a path to redemption within limits, of course, for for these liberals who said stupid and crazy things.

01:08:25.000 If they're if they want to come back into the fold, what I what I see with you guys in Jenk inviting him to come to T to Amfest was saying if you are willing to admit your faults and do the right thing, forgiveness is always available, and you can have this conversation.

01:08:38.000 By the way, if you create a uh a scenario here, and listen, a lot of these people deserve their just desserts, right?

01:08:45.000 They deserve some of the scorn that gets heaped on them.

01:08:48.000 I will say though, but if you if you operate in good faith, you know, this is kind of like a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but like Fetterman.

01:08:56.000 He's saying same things.

01:08:58.000 He's not voting the way we want him to.

01:08:59.000 Right.

01:09:00.000 But at least he's saying some things that sound halfway, you know, reasonable.

01:09:05.000 And and and I think that there has to be he's doing that actually pretty bravely.

01:09:10.000 I would say, because he's lost all of staff.

01:09:12.000 He's, you know, he's basically been completely outcast in in the Senate, which is kind of against what most people do in the Senate.

01:09:19.000 But you yes, you have to give an on-ramp to them to sort of be like, hey, we're not gonna just make this so painful on you to to say sane things.

01:09:27.000 Like we i it it should require less and less courage to step out and say normal sane things.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:33.000 And you know, that can be a negative feedback loop that we do because it's fun to dunk on people.

01:09:37.000 Yeah.

01:09:38.000 And you know, there's every rationalization and justification that they deserve it.

01:09:42.000 But at some point, like if we want this thing to get back together where people aren't getting murdered, like Charlie for just engaging in debate, that we've got to find a way, and you've got to put some of some of this stuff to bed when they're willing to come back to a place of sanity.

01:09:56.000 Yeah, but it's like even if we are able to just ratchet the Democrat Party back to like the 1980s, we're still gonna get the same result at some point down.

01:10:04.000 Like, we're just kick kind of kicking the can further down the road.

01:10:06.000 Because a lot of the stuff is baked into the ideology of leftist.

01:10:09.000 I totally agree.

01:10:10.000 We need to like win politically so dramatically and for so long that they realize that they have to go back into the like, you know, into the back to the drawing board.

01:10:19.000 Well, here's what I think will happen is younger people are looking for how to fit in and find success.

01:10:25.000 So, you know, I've been thinking a lot about recently having a kid, what I want for my kid, and the congratulations, by the way.

01:10:32.000 I appreciate it, thank you.

01:10:33.000 Uh I know that most parents already know this, but your view, your view of the world changes quite a bit.

01:10:38.000 I've traveled the world, I've gone on adventures, I've seen so much.

01:10:41.000 I am not concerned with any of those things right now.

01:10:43.000 I'm concerned with how can I give that to my child and children.

01:10:47.000 Young people, I I was thinking, I was thinking to myself earlier as I was driving around, like traveling.

01:10:52.000 I'm I'm almost 40.

01:10:54.000 I used to love traveling.

01:10:55.000 Now I much prefer to stay home with my family.

01:10:57.000 And why is that?

01:10:58.000 Why don't I feel well, I care more about what my kid wants.

01:11:00.000 But why does why did I want that when I was young?

01:11:03.000 Young people are seeking to experience and absorb the world around them to survive, to grow, to develop.

01:11:09.000 This is what humans do.

01:11:10.000 Young people today, and I should say for the past 10 years, have been told by this liberal institutional apparatus, violent, vile cult.

01:11:19.000 It makes you famous.

01:11:20.000 You go on TV and say whatever they tell you to say, you'll get a million followers.

01:11:24.000 Be a nasty, angry leftist activist, put the black square, fit in, that's success. 1.00

01:11:29.000 We have to redefine that.

01:11:31.000 We have to say, no, actually, you do those things, we don't work with you.

01:11:35.000 Your opportunity is limited.

01:11:36.000 Don't marginalize yourself.

01:11:38.000 That is not the future for you and this world.

01:11:41.000 And what you'll see then is the young people who are growing up and absorbing the world will say, that's failure.

01:11:47.000 It's a dead end.

01:11:48.000 It's a dead end.

01:11:49.000 Yeah.

01:11:49.000 I think that's smart.

01:11:50.000 The path of light will make you successful.

01:11:54.000 It'll make you happy.

01:11:55.000 Yeah, I'll tell you this, man.

01:11:58.000 I'm see I'm reading these stories of millennials getting close to their 40s with no family, no kids, they're listless, they're depressed.

01:12:06.000 A lot of women. 1.00

01:12:08.000 And that is terrifying.

01:12:09.000 What happened to millennials where they're almost 40 and they're going, I don't know what I'm doing with my life. 1.00

01:12:14.000 And I'm like, how do you not know?

01:12:16.000 And I don't blame.

01:12:18.000 I don't blame them as individuals for the world around them.

01:12:22.000 They didn't learn.

01:12:23.000 And what have we done as a society that created people that don't understand what to do with their lives?

01:12:29.000 I think we have to make sure the next generation and the younger people today learn there is a path towards success.

01:12:35.000 There is a means to doing it.

01:12:36.000 There's a light at the end of the tunnel at the end of the tunnel.

01:12:39.000 And going down this weird leftist path of darkness will leave you with nothing but misery.

01:12:42.000 Well, yeah, I mean, because leftism created the the ideal person for for a leftist is just the best consumer.

01:12:48.000 So it's like a 40-year-old with no kids.

01:12:50.000 All they're gonna do is just buy products all day to fill that void in their soul because they've stripped them of all their identity.

01:12:55.000 They've stripped them of the potential to be a father or a mother.

01:12:58.000 They've stripped them of being an American, they've stripped them of being a child of God, they've stripped them from all these different things.

01:13:02.000 They've ripped away every label from them.

01:13:04.000 So all that's left is just being a consumer and buying products, and that just trying to fill that you know soul void in their soul.

01:13:10.000 And I gotta give it to Andrew Tate on this one, because he had a really funny tweet where he said something like the worst thing about being rich is that there's nothing left to buy, so you just drive around looking for steak.

01:13:21.000 And I actually, it's it's a really it's funny because that's basically what like we're you know, when we're like, what do we do?

01:13:27.000 What do you want to do for the weekends?

01:13:28.000 Like it's find another restaurant and hang out and have drinks and good food.

01:13:31.000 But it's not, I I think for Andrew, he's sure.

01:13:34.000 I I wouldn't know about not being able to buy anything you want, like he's saying.

01:13:37.000 But this point about driving around and just trying to find stake is true for all adults.

01:13:41.000 And I think the real proposition is he what he's revealing, and what I what I think a lot of uh these millennials are revealing when they say that they don't know to do with their lives is they didn't have kids.

01:13:55.000 And uh I would just say to everybody, have kids now, don't wait.

01:14:00.000 I'm turning 40 in a few months, and I just had my first kid, and I should have had my kid way long ago.

01:14:05.000 In my own defense, I was very poor when I was in my 20s and didn't have a place to live.

01:14:10.000 I was, you know.

01:14:11.000 Yeah, but that's uh Tucker and Charlie had this great clip that would go viral every couple months.

01:14:17.000 And it was Tucker, like, you know, he's Charlie goes, Hey, do you have any life advice for our students?

01:14:22.000 You're about to see them.

01:14:23.000 Ryan knows the clip I'm talking about.

01:14:26.000 And um it was he and Tucker goes, you know, uh get married, have more children than you can afford.

01:14:34.000 Take a job you're not qualified for, you know.

01:14:37.000 Boldly.

01:14:37.000 He's like, and he says, he's says, you know, I've wasted more money in my life than I can remember.

01:14:43.000 But he's like, it was fine.

01:14:44.000 All the room services are worth it.

01:14:45.000 All it was fine.

01:14:47.000 He says, but the real bitter pill for him to swallow is the time he wasted.

01:14:51.000 Yeah.

01:14:51.000 And so you said that when you said you have kids now, it's like, yes, don't wait.

01:14:57.000 I mean, even me, like I mean my wife, we have three kids, you know, we're I guess we're sort of on the timeline that you know you would kind of expect or what.

01:15:05.000 But even me, I'm like, man, I kind of wish I would have started a little earlier.

01:15:08.000 Yeah.

01:15:09.000 I I will say, like, if I had so I was sleeping on couches and and partially homeless.

01:15:14.000 There, there was no opportunity for some threshold that we should have.

01:15:17.000 And but I say this because I know there are people out there that are like, I wish I could.

01:15:22.000 The the argument is if you if if you are in the lower income category but stable, yeah, have kids.

01:15:30.000 Yeah, but it exactly.

01:15:31.000 So if you have this image in your head of like, well, I want to make sure I have like the the at least a three-bedroom house and be able to afford that, and and I don't want to be renting, I want to I want to have like bought it.

01:15:42.000 Like, no, just listen, children are a blessing.

01:15:45.000 It's a value statement that you you have children, you get married because of the value systems you hold.

01:15:50.000 You don't because people have told you it's a burden.

01:15:54.000 People have told you that it is gonna weigh you down, that it's gonna, it's gonna totally demolish your plants.

01:15:58.000 Those are demons.

01:15:59.000 No, here's what's true.

01:16:01.000 When you get married, like I bel I believe this with all my heart.

01:16:04.000 God will bring the provision.

01:16:05.000 God, like God will find a way to help you take care of your kids.

01:16:09.000 And if you commit to your family, I believe that's true.

01:16:12.000 I'll I'll just I'll add this.

01:16:13.000 All of that's a lie.

01:16:14.000 The the idea of a burden, we the the studies are coming out saying, Oh, actually, women with kids are much happier.

01:16:19.000 Oh, that Atlantic artist.

01:16:20.000 Yeah, yep.

01:16:21.000 Oh, heavens, who would have thought after after millennia of human generation, they're like, oh, actually, women like having kids. 1.00

01:16:26.000 They're lying the whole time.

01:16:28.000 I can only say this because I know most people have had kids who are watching, and younger than me, not a burden.

01:16:35.000 No, it's not the by the way, you know, in this time, I will just say, like, I've been away from my family a lot since since it happened.

01:16:35.000 Not a burden.

01:16:45.000 And, you know, I was leaving yesterday and my kids just like lost it just when I was leaving.

01:16:52.000 And when I come back to them, they tackle me and like, I love you.

01:16:56.000 And they give me kisses and all this stuff.

01:16:57.000 I'm like, that that is that emotional connection is irreplaceable.

01:17:03.000 It it is there is no steak you can eat, there is no car you can buy, there is no job you can work, there is nothing that even comes close to that.

01:17:11.000 And by the way, it's a lot of work.

01:17:13.000 I'm not I'm not trying to like sugar it comes a lot of work, but that transforms you into a person that can have even more joy.

01:17:20.000 Yeah.

01:17:21.000 I it's it's if it weren't true, humans wouldn't exist.

01:17:24.000 So I you know, I posit this to liberals all the time.

01:17:27.000 Um when when they say things like kids aren't for me, you know, I'm like, you will love it so much you have no idea because if it wasn't the case, humans would have gone extinct a long time ago.

01:17:37.000 Well, but you know, it also maybe speak to this, because I know it's true for me.

01:17:41.000 Like it changes you.

01:17:43.000 Like you become a better human.

01:17:47.000 Only, by the way, this only counts if you don't just be like, you know, leave your baby mama and you know, never.

01:17:51.000 Yeah, some people have that that that's not what we're talking about.

01:17:54.000 If you commit yourself to it, it will make you a tremendously better person.

01:17:59.000 Well, because it's it's it's lifestyle behaviors that acknowledge the reality that you're an eternal being, like spiritually, but that the world's gonna go on after you die.

01:18:07.000 And a lot of people can't accept their own mortality, and that's what's so beautiful about children.

01:18:11.000 That's what's so beautiful about investing in loving your country, investing in loving in your church and your community.

01:18:16.000 Because these things will outlast you.

01:18:17.000 And so the opposite the the other side is just it's nihilism.

01:18:21.000 It's nihilism, it's just buy a bunch of Funko Pops and like try to ignore that that voice in the back of your head saying, This is wrong, this is wrong, this is wrong.

01:18:29.000 Invest in things that are lasting that will last beyond you that are difficult.

01:18:33.000 In some degree are eternal.

01:18:34.000 All right, guys, you guys all right I'm gonna have gonna have babies tonight.

01:18:36.000 All right.

01:18:37.000 Phoenix, Arizona.

01:18:38.000 Your turn feedback.

01:18:42.000 What's the Airbnb we're staying at right now?

01:18:44.000 Let's have as many as we can.

01:18:46.000 Uh but but no, uh, a lot of nurses always report talking to people when they're on their deathbed. 0.99

01:18:51.000 And it's never that people uh regret working too hard.

01:18:54.000 It's always that they never spend enough time with their family with their loved ones.

01:18:58.000 So, you know, the the idea, it's been brewing in my head, and especially after everything that happened with Charlie, it's even brewing in my head even more that this is something that I want.

01:19:07.000 Um it's been a lot of that, by the way.

01:19:10.000 Oh yeah.

01:19:11.000 And there's a lot of stress and there's also a lot of pressure.

01:19:13.000 And there's also a lot of people.

01:19:13.000 Church too.

01:19:15.000 Uh, you know, if you look at a lot of the polling, you know, uh the data is highlighting how young men want to have families and kids, but young women don't more and more.

01:19:24.000 They want a career.

01:19:25.000 That's the terrifying aspect of the thing that you all of this.

01:19:28.000 They want the thing that when you're in your deathbed, to your point, you you don't even care about.

01:19:32.000 Yeah.

01:19:32.000 Why like how did that lie get implanted in their brains?

01:19:35.000 But literally, to your point, if you are if you have this fact that it it's your deathbed, everybody wants to be surrounded by their loved ones.

01:19:44.000 They don't think about the job, they don't think about any of that, they think about the people closest to them.

01:19:47.000 That's the thing that will matter most to you on your deathbed.

01:19:50.000 You should live your life in reverse thinking about that truth, right?

01:19:54.000 And yet somehow young women have believed a lie that the thing they care about most is their career.

01:20:00.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know what my great grandparents did for work.

01:20:02.000 I just know I have a ton of cousins.

01:20:03.000 And it's a beautiful thing.

01:20:05.000 I I there's a little bit of hop hypocrisy in me saying this, and I acknowledge that, but also go to church.

01:20:10.000 Yeah.

01:20:10.000 Uh it was you know, we we had a uh Catholic priest on the culture war talking about exorcisms, and he asked me, I he he he asked me, I said I grew up Catholic as I go, Oh, so you're baptised Catholic.

01:20:20.000 And I was like, Yeah, it's like, oh, so you still are, you just you haven't come back yet.

01:20:22.000 And I was like, sure, sure.

01:20:23.000 I I don't I'm I don't consider I'm not a Christian, I'm not gonna pretend to be.

01:20:26.000 There are a lot of people that I think try to play that angle because it'll get them followers or whatever.

01:20:29.000 I do believe in God.

01:20:30.000 But I recognize the function of church and how important it was to to our civilization.

01:20:35.000 A weekly gathering place of people of shared moral values and tradition that allowed a society to anchor itself.

01:20:42.000 And what's happened over the past generation, especially with my generation, they don't go to church.

01:20:47.000 They don't have a place, and I think it's left a void in young people, millennials, and so they tried to fill it with some kind of purpose and they found wokeness.

01:20:56.000 And amorphous, nondescript, nebulous, non-theistic religion. 0.72

01:21:01.000 They have jammed into the holes in their chest and they have tried to find ways to feel like they matter.

01:21:07.000 And they're doing bad things because of it.

01:21:09.000 Simply described as with the vacant hearts they have, they've stuffed them full of demons.

01:21:14.000 Yeah.

01:21:15.000 So the what we've tried, what we've talked about quite a bit is the um, I call it Saturday morning cartoons.

01:21:20.000 We're we're trying to do with our cafe, where Saturday mornings to not interfere with church.

01:21:25.000 Parents bring their kids, we'll do catered breakfast. 0.99

01:21:28.000 The plan for this may be uh coming very, very soon, very excited for this.

01:21:31.000 So the work is getting done.

01:21:33.000 Uh Mamba Collectibles, go check it out.

01:21:35.000 Half the building's already open.

01:21:36.000 You can hang out in uh Martinsburg, West Virginia.

01:21:38.000 But the idea is to start with a place where people can come and hang out, their kids can come together and they can meet on shared moral values.

01:21:47.000 Step one.

01:21:48.000 Whether they advance beyond that to faith, religion, our church, whatever, is not something that I can, you know, commit to a comment on is not somebody who does that, but I want to at least create that functional space where community will will come together.

01:21:59.000 It does already exist for those that go to church.

01:22:01.000 Yeah.

01:22:01.000 And and demonic possession is real.

01:22:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:22:04.000 Like I've seen it in in real life.

01:22:05.000 I don't want to speak about my experiences.

01:22:07.000 But when when we look at a lot of the ideas that a lot of these people are kind of centralizing around lust, pride, uh envy.

01:22:16.000 When when we look at all of those virtues, it it's sold to us as uh social media clout.

01:22:21.000 It's sold to us like we should try to achieve those things for some kind of uh fake artificial like or community.

01:22:29.000 But but in reality, when you kind of delve into a lot of those things, they're extremely empty and they kind of take away your soul.

01:22:36.000 And they and and I believe there are aspects of mainline kind of establishment society, very kind of powerful uh, you know, individuals out there that do want to spread demonic possession that do want to spread evil and are doing it in record numbers now.

01:22:51.000 That's why we had a priest on to talk about exorcisms, because uh some's out there.

01:22:56.000 But uh let's let's jump to the story.

01:22:58.000 That's from the New York Post.

01:22:59.000 Oh boy, we're we're going for it.

01:23:01.000 Charlie Kirk wrote of his deep love for Israel in letter to Netanyahu about how to counter rising opposition to the Jewish state in the US.

01:23:10.000 I think I have the uh oh no, this is another post that we'll bring up in a second, which is terrifying.

01:23:15.000 But to get to the letter, the near post says oh, it's right here, okay.

01:23:18.000 Conservative activist Charlie Kirk advised Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on how to counter anti-Israel sentiment among Gen Z and win the information war being waged against the Jewish state, according to a letter obtained by the post.

01:23:31.000 Kirk wrote to Netanyahu in the May 2nd missive that he was alarmed by anti-Israel and anti-Semitic trends hitting record levels on social media.

01:23:38.000 Since one of his greatest joys as a Christian is advocating for Israel and forming alliances with Jews in the fight to protect Judeo Judeo-Christian civilization. 0.58

01:23:47.000 Mative and I have spent months analyzing these trends and debating ideas that can help you and your country push back against these disturbing developments, he said in the letter, reproduced in full below for the first time.

01:23:57.000 Anti-Israel sentiment can undermine American support for Israel.

01:24:01.000 What's interesting about this, I suppose, is there was a debate or raging online that Charlie was turning against Israel, and it's part of this conspiracy theory, which is within hours, the conspiracy theorists were claiming Israel killed Charlie Kirk.

01:24:18.000 I don't I can say I don't understand what the goal of such a claim would be, but I think there are people who just plum hate Israel no matter what.

01:24:27.000 So any opportunity they have to say that.

01:24:30.000 And I and you know, the funny thing is no matter no matter how many times I say it, guys.

01:24:33.000 I don't care if you like or don't like Israel, you're free to criticize them. 0.97

01:24:35.000 Please do.

01:24:36.000 They're a government in a country.

01:24:37.000 You can criticize anybody.

01:24:39.000 I still get called a shill for Israel and all of that stuff for simply pointing out, guys.

01:24:44.000 We we we have evidence.

01:24:46.000 We have a general idea of what happened, but uh I suppose I just you know ask the man himself your view on all of this, because I you know, just you tell me because I'm not gonna put words.

01:24:56.000 Is this letter verified?

01:24:57.000 Is this letter true?

01:24:58.000 Yeah, I mean it's it's it's real.

01:25:01.000 Yeah.

01:25:02.000 Uh why is there this idea?

01:25:05.000 I'm gonna put it like this.

01:25:06.000 Nick Fuentes called it conspiratard-ish that people were claiming Israel killed Charlie, and he was and it was really funny. 1.00

01:25:15.000 He was like, if Ben Shapiro died, I don't think they're gonna claim Israel did it.

01:25:19.000 And they're claiming now that Nick Fund has got the call.

01:25:22.000 The call like Israel called him and told him to it's it's it's it's crazy in my opinion, but I'm I'm curious why you think People are pushing this, and just what the truth is.

01:25:33.000 You know, I think Charlie's views on Israel were nuanced.

01:25:38.000 There's no doubt about it.

01:25:39.000 Um he was frustrated.

01:25:42.000 He was, you know.

01:25:43.000 I mean, I talked about this on with you know with Alex Clark's uh podcast, uh Culture Apothecary, and I don't know, it's like got millions of views or something like that.

01:25:53.000 She told me.

01:25:54.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, he he for Charlie, it was very clear.

01:25:58.000 He wanted people to who controlled the Holy Land to be civilized people.

01:26:05.000 He didn't want it to be in the hands of Islam, for example, right? 1.00

01:26:09.000 Charlie looked at it as like we have a civilized group that is friendly to the West, and we have we have you know, uncivilized, basically, you know, we have we have these Muslim nations that are very hostile, a lot of them are openly terrorists, right? 1.00

01:26:24.000 Uh towards Israel, towards America. 0.84

01:26:27.000 Who who would you rather have control of the holy land?

01:26:29.000 That was one really basic thing, right?

01:26:31.000 The other thing was that he was really frustrated that he wasn't allowed to criticize Israel without being labeled an anti-Semit.

01:26:38.000 Right.

01:26:38.000 So, like the the truth is is that like he won he had vehement disagreements with the way that they were prosecuting the war.

01:26:47.000 He had vehement disagreements about the way that they were messaging about different things.

01:26:53.000 He wanted it to be over.

01:26:54.000 He thought it was a he thought it was unfortunate that it was dragging on so long.

01:26:58.000 And you know, but he realized that he had more freedom to control he to criticize America in many ways than he did criticize Israel.

01:27:07.000 Yeah.

01:27:08.000 Even Tucker Carlson was bringing up the point of how Charlie Kirk was being labeled anti-Semitic himself and how he found that personally very offensive.

01:27:16.000 Uh now for me, I I think BB's comments are kind of weird throughout all of this.

01:27:21.000 Um and I I don't think it helps the kind of discourse and what's going on here.

01:27:25.000 Uh Meghan Kelly and Charlie Kirk were were talking about this issue uh also a couple weeks before it happened, and I thought their comments were also kind of very important and very nuanced.

01:27:34.000 Because there was things that I agreed with Charlie on some of the things I disagreed with, but he was able to have that conversation and that debate.

01:27:41.000 He was hosting individuals like Dave Smith and other critics and and being able to give them a voice.

01:27:46.000 And there were people that were saying, You gotta shut down uh Tucker Carlson, you gotta shut down all these critics and all these people who present the other side when he was just presenting a debate too.

01:27:57.000 Well, and he was very cognizant of the fact that you know, young people were much more Israeli skeptic, right?

01:28:04.000 We were hearing it all the time.

01:28:05.000 And he did not if if Charlie would have gone out there and just said we're not allowed to like have this conversation, that would have been a huge disservice to the conservative movement because ultimately Charlie was one thing, America first.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, he really was.

01:28:18.000 He loved America, he cared about Israel.

01:28:20.000 There's no jet, no, no, no doubt.

01:28:22.000 And he had a long history of advocating on behalf of Israel, standing up against BDS movements and this and that.

01:28:28.000 And so imagine being Charlie Kirk, where you sent uh pro-Israel signage to your chapters.

01:28:35.000 You you did a young Jewish leadership summit.

01:28:38.000 You're one of your uh most important mentors in your life is is a Jew, Dennis Prager, and you have this great history of being all of these things that Israel should have been very excited about, and yet you were still criticized the moment you didn't do one thing because you have a deep friendship and respect, mutual respect with Tucker Carlson.

01:28:56.000 He was extraordinarily frustrated by that.

01:28:59.000 And when he would get hit, one of my favorite parts about Charlie, and Tim, I know you would appreciate this, but they would say, Well, you gotta you gotta cancel Tucker Carlson.

01:29:06.000 He'd be like, Well, then uh maybe he's gonna give two speeches at Amphest now.

01:29:11.000 Yeah, like honestly, like you're gonna try and morally blackmail me.

01:29:14.000 Screw you.

01:29:15.000 Like, I'm not I'm not playing this game because guess what?

01:29:17.000 You don't run turning point, I do.

01:29:19.000 And I love that about him.

01:29:20.000 It was one of my and he was and people also have to understand Charlie was extraordinarily loyal to his friends.

01:29:26.000 He would he even if he even if he saw Tucker saying something that he didn't agree with, maybe privately to me and Blake or something, he'd be like, What's he where's he going with this?

01:29:35.000 But like he would never say something publicly because Tucker is his friend.

01:29:40.000 Yeah, they're f they're actual friends, and you saw that with Candace even.

01:29:44.000 Charlie and Candace, they have they had a long history together, long friendship.

01:29:48.000 So it's just like people expected him to just come out and be like, I disavow and all this.

01:29:52.000 Well, that's not that's just not the way Charlie works.

01:29:54.000 It was far more nuanced.

01:29:55.000 So much so much nuance.

01:29:56.000 There was also a lot of heat by the way, the internet doesn't like nuance.

01:29:59.000 Exactly.

01:30:00.000 The internet, the internet is like they want black or white.

01:30:03.000 tell me where you stand.

01:30:04.000 Uh Charlie had a more nuanced take on this, but then I I was also hearing that there was a lot of heat, especially when Tucker Carlson was at the last uh SaaS um meeting and he talked about how Epstein was Mossad, and then he brought up Bill Ackman and he brought up all these other people behind the scenes, and then that brought up this type of situation where people were calling Charlie saying, Counsel him, don't let him speak ever again.

01:30:27.000 And a lot of people Charlie's Douglas he'll he's like, no thanks.

01:30:31.000 We're gonna confirm him right now.

01:30:32.000 I'd imagine that uh, especially in dealing with someone like Charlie, the way that's described is probably a bit more exaggerated.

01:30:39.000 I'm sure he got a call where people were like, I don't like that Tucker was saying these things, Charlie tried to persuade him.

01:30:44.000 Listen, listen, it's yes, it is probably more exaggerated.

01:30:48.000 Uh was was is the pressure, was the pressure campaign real?

01:30:52.000 Yeah, but it was like we have we have a long history of you know, there's a couple things that Charlie did at Turning Point that in retrospect were critically critically important to the fact that I think Turning Point's gonna grow, right?

01:31:05.000 And we're we're actually we're gonna be not just okay, but Erica's amazing.

01:31:10.000 The leadership, the team is amazing.

01:31:13.000 And one of those is that he never accepted foreign money because there was this whole rumor of like, did you take you know money from Israel?

01:31:19.000 So I was like, I mean, I didn't even have to call anybody to verify it.

01:31:23.000 No, because like I knew Charlie for years turning down foreign money, and people would try like there was instances where foreign people would try and wire like they would somehow get like the wire info and they would just send a wire in and they would kind of force like us to take the money and Charlie would have it all refunded back.

01:31:40.000 So I just like and we don't take money from foreign governments, nothing.

01:31:43.000 Charlie is proudly American funded and American made and like America first.

01:31:48.000 Like Charlie loved America.

01:31:50.000 He loved this country.

01:31:51.000 And so, anyways, it's it's not even it's not even an issue.

01:31:54.000 But I want I want to ask you about this one other conspiracy that I'm seeing a lot more now as well, and it's that you and Erica aren't reacting properly.

01:32:00.000 Oh, and I I so I've given my thoughts on the mat on the matter, and I've I've pushed a little back.

01:32:05.000 There are people saying, you know, uh, oh, I mean, they don't seem to be sad.

01:32:10.000 What's going on?

01:32:11.000 You know what's weird about that?

01:32:12.000 It's like I was actually I went from so you know so it happens, we fly instantly to Probo.

01:32:22.000 I'm so devastated that I can't like obviously do the show on third.

01:32:26.000 I didn't even consider it.

01:32:27.000 Actually, Jack took the Charlie Kirk show on the Thursday after it happened.

01:32:32.000 And then um Steve Bannon flew out there.

01:32:38.000 Wow.

01:32:39.000 Because he just I I don't know what his impulse was.

01:32:41.000 It was like, I just need to be close to you guys, let me know how I can help.

01:32:44.000 And so he does his show like close close by, and he he says, you know, like I really think it's important you come on.

01:32:50.000 And I was like, All right, all right, I don't know what I'm gonna do.

01:32:54.000 And I remember I read the eulogy that we posted on Turning Point's website.

01:33:02.000 And I basically, you know, was such a mess I couldn't get through reading the eulogy.

01:33:09.000 Just like and I remember feeling like because I'm not, you know, I'm got this training in me, like you, you know, you're a man, you don't cry.

01:33:17.000 Yeah, you know, and it's and it's funny because like even you've even been around Trump, it's like Trump doesn't like guys that cry.

01:33:23.000 Like all these things are going through my head, like I gotta like keep this together, I'm gonna be strong for Charlie.

01:33:27.000 I know Charlie would want us to like soldier on and like keep the mission going.

01:33:31.000 And I just like couldn't get through it.

01:33:33.000 You know, I'm just like losing it.

01:33:35.000 And I felt so like almost embarrassed by that.

01:33:37.000 I mean, I knew that it was people were gonna give me, you know, they're gonna understand what like what we're going through.

01:33:43.000 But then we we get back to Phoenix after we did the you know, the uh dignified transfer.

01:33:50.000 JD Vance came, picked us up in Air Force Two out of Provo, flew us from Salt Lake City, fle flew us down to Phoenix, and we did the show the next day, and we were all just like a mess, the whole show.

01:34:00.000 But it, you know, people loved that show because they were grieving and they wanted to grieve with us.

01:34:06.000 But like the other thing I would just say is so so I go from feeling like I'm showing too much emotion on air to feeling like you know, I haven't heard too much of that to be fair.

01:34:15.000 I I maybe I'm just insulated, maybe maybe my maybe my algorithms dip different, but but yeah, just kind of you know, people saying that stuff.

01:34:23.000 I I saw some people commenting that uh about Erica when she came on. 0.94

01:34:26.000 It's like, what do you expect her to do?

01:34:27.000 Just like just performative cry for you whenever you think that she should.

01:34:33.000 Like, how dare you tell a grieving widow how she's supposed to grieve?

01:34:36.000 And by the way, how dare you tell me how I'm supposed to grieve when one of my best friends in the whole world, my business partner, my like my partner in crime for eight years gets brutally assassinated in front of the whole world.

01:34:48.000 Like, shame on you.

01:34:48.000 Shut up.

01:34:49.000 Yeah, I think those are just like demonic evil attacks on you guys.

01:34:51.000 Yeah, but I mean for real.

01:34:53.000 But you know, and the other thing is it's like Charlie would want us to march on.

01:34:57.000 He would.

01:34:57.000 And that means that I gotta I gotta like put my you know pant legs on every morning, one leg at a time, put my shoes on, look myself in the mirror, and get ready for game time.

01:35:05.000 Like I have to, because guess what?

01:35:07.000 That's what Charlie would want me to do.

01:35:09.000 You know, I I the reason I bring this up is because we show up here to your guest HQ, everybody's working, and uh everybody is just doing their jobs.

01:35:18.000 It's not like everybody's on the ground crying or nobody showed up.

01:35:21.000 Yeah, there is there I I thought about what I would do if something happened to my family, and I'm like, Well, I've got there there are people who work for my company and there are people who watch my show that rely on the work that I do.

01:35:34.000 That's a good another very important point.

01:35:36.000 You can't just stop you can't I have we have a we have so many employees, you know.

01:35:40.000 Like one of them's right here, and he's a great guy, and I instantly I was thinking about them.

01:35:45.000 You know, Charlie is irreplaceable, but we have a show that employs all these people, we've got editors and social media people, and yeah, you you're like, okay, we gotta make a plan here.

01:35:56.000 And I will say the work there is you can escape too much into the work where you you're not processing, and I I kind of felt that like you know, this weekend candidly, you know, little bit of downtime and it just hits you again.

01:36:08.000 And I think I'm I'm you know, finally kind of going through some of the like the anger phase, if I'm being honest.

01:36:14.000 Um I was so it we you know, we had to pull off this memorial.

01:36:19.000 You know, we had six days to plan this thing, it had more, you know, it had more media uh interest than the Super Bowl.

01:36:26.000 And why I know that is because the team at State Farm uh Stadium has hosted, I think a few Super Bowls.

01:36:34.000 So like they have a world class team, award-winning team, they were amazing to work with, and and they couldn't believe what our team pulled off as quickly as they did, and they were great partners in it, by the way.

01:36:44.000 And um, yeah, I just it it it having the work is actually helpful because like we know and we have this tour that we have to do, and then there's all these other things that are emerging uh and and supporting Erica, supporting the team, and and so it's like I don't take too much offense to that stuff because they've never walked in my shoes.

01:37:01.000 I just think it's I just think it's really gross.

01:37:03.000 Yeah, when I lost someone close to me uh when I was very young, all I wanted to do is work.

01:37:07.000 I wanted to get my mind off of it, I wanted to focus and and I use that strength to build up uh you know the media organization that I have now.

01:37:14.000 Uh but I just kind of you know wanted to kind of ask you kind of realizing and moving forward.

01:37:21.000 I I know some of the theories are just ridiculous and crazy and insane, but I do think there are some kind of you know questions that are worth asking.

01:37:29.000 I was wondering how do you feel about the Fed's kind of investigation here?

01:37:32.000 And do you have faith in them doing the Fed's investigation here?

01:37:36.000 And do you have faith in them doing the right job here, or do you have some questions to yourself?

01:37:41.000 Well, listen, I mean, a couple of things.

01:37:43.000 I'm not next of kin, right?

01:37:45.000 So Erica's getting updates that I'm not aware of.

01:37:48.000 I'm assured that the communication has been robust, and that there is a high degree of confidence that this is what happened.

01:37:59.000 Now, I'm also aware that when I weigh in on this issue, that that could have implications negatively for the prosecution of the person that I'm told is the guilty party here, right?

01:38:14.000 And so I have to be very careful.

01:38:16.000 Do I have questions?

01:38:17.000 Sure.

01:38:18.000 My questions are mostly surrounding the fact that there seemed to be an indication that people knew something was gonna happen.

01:38:24.000 That there was a network of people that seem to be like something big's gonna happen and you'll know it when you see it.

01:38:30.000 And who is that?

01:38:31.000 Who are those people?

01:38:33.000 Who radicalized them?

01:38:34.000 Were they financed?

01:38:36.000 Those are like the questions I have.

01:38:38.000 Whether there was a trapdoor is not the question I have.

01:38:41.000 Yeah.

01:38:41.000 Okay.

01:38:42.000 Whether his security guards were somehow involved or not the questions I have, by the way, because those are my brothers too.

01:38:47.000 And I've been through the ringer with them.

01:38:49.000 And we have they have defended my life.

01:38:51.000 They have defended Charlie's life multiple times.

01:38:53.000 I've seen people rushing him and they block him off.

01:38:56.000 And the other thing is like just knowing the way that campus security works, actually, is that the private security has proximity around they have jurisdiction around the immediate proximity of Charlie, right?

01:39:08.000 So when you go onto a campus PD, just imagine you had Rashida Talib pro Palestine Palestine uh group meeting, right?

01:39:16.000 Are you gonna let them have control of the whole campus?

01:39:19.000 There might be some instances where this actually this arrangement makes a lot of sense, right?

01:39:19.000 Like, I don't know.

01:39:23.000 So you've got you've got campus PD that has jurisdiction of the wider perimeter, and you've got Charlie's security that is in charge of his immediate vicinity.

01:39:33.000 So somebody attacks him, somebody runs up to him.

01:39:36.000 So you have to understand the way that the jurisdictions work on these campuses, first of all.

01:39:40.000 And and by the way, it's just when you know these guys, you know, I just feel so bad for them because they have been attacked, doxxed, and all these things, and they're just such great guys.

01:39:50.000 They're really are.

01:39:51.000 They would have taken the bullet for Charlie if they could have.

01:39:53.000 This that one really there's a lot of them, they're silly because there's too many.

01:39:57.000 There's like five shooter theories.

01:39:59.000 Uh the one of the first things I saw is the security guards doing hand signs or whatever.

01:40:03.000 And the reason this one got to me right away is because I have a security team too, and yeah, you do you do hand signs like it's loud, it's noisy, and they'll they'll be like, you know, they'll do a hand sign.

01:40:12.000 I'm like, why are you guys attacking the people there trying to protect him at that time?

01:40:16.000 Yeah, there's a lot of ridiculous uh theories out there, and I think the ridiculous theories are there to specifically make everyone kind of.

01:40:22.000 But here's what I will say.

01:40:23.000 I here's what I will say.

01:40:25.000 I under I'm sympathetic on some level, and that's because we've all been lied to so much.

01:40:29.000 Yeah.

01:40:30.000 And so when I tell you in the audience, I want the truth more than you want the truth.

01:40:37.000 I really mean it.

01:40:38.000 And if you think that there aren't like it's like incredible amounts of effort and energy being expended, you're wrong.

01:40:47.000 And just because we're not saying it all the time doesn't mean that we don't care.

01:40:51.000 This is the this is the challenge is that the show the show must go on, the work must continue.

01:40:55.000 We're not going to spend every single day on this one issue, but it's gonna be there.

01:41:00.000 The investigation's happening, and there's a mission.

01:41:04.000 But uh, we're gonna go to your chats.

01:41:06.000 So smash the like button, share the show with literally everyone, you know.

01:41:09.000 Tell them how great the show is.

01:41:11.000 And uh, we are not gonna have the uh uncensored call-ins this week.

01:41:15.000 But one idea, I think I don't know if it was Tate's idea or not, was to have the DC crew run the call ins back home.

01:41:20.000 Like it work wasn't my idea, but I'll tell you.

01:41:21.000 Oh, that was Brandon's idea.

01:41:22.000 Brandon's over there raising his hands.

01:41:24.000 Genius.

01:41:24.000 Because uh uh just logistics make it very difficult, but maybe maybe the the home crew would want to do it.

01:41:30.000 I don't know, it'd be brutal back, hey guys, show up late at night for a half an hour.

01:41:33.000 But uh let's grape let's grab a chance.

01:41:34.000 There's a couple that I think we have to grab.

01:41:36.000 We have Michael Thompson who says, What's up with Brilin?

01:41:40.000 Oh, uh I went right for that one.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, just coming in hot over here.

01:41:45.000 Man, that was like funny to me.

01:41:47.000 Like over the weekend, you know, I've I've never actually met Brylin.

01:41:51.000 Uh he've had we've had him on.

01:41:53.000 Yeah, I've had a I have I had now and now I'm connected with him over text or whatever, and and he just reached out to say, hey, I really looked up to Charlie, and you know, you guys are like you know, doing a great job or whatever.

01:42:06.000 I mean, it's just really nice stuff.

01:42:07.000 I mean, to clear the air, if it needs to be cleared, like, no, he is not doing a turning point tour.

01:42:14.000 He is not some like air, we're not grooming him to be the next Charlie Curry.

01:42:19.000 It's no like passing of the baton.

01:42:21.000 He didn't come from a laboratory.

01:42:22.000 Yeah, like we didn't, yeah, we didn't, yeah.

01:42:24.000 You know, he's just a kid that, you know, I think he's what, 19 or something?

01:42:28.000 Is he 19?

01:42:29.000 I don't know, eighteen, what he's young, he's really young.

01:42:32.000 And he took it upon himself, like maybe I don't know, some donor maybe was like, hey, you should do this, and he, you know, wants to do wants to speak on colleges.

01:42:42.000 Like, on the one hand, I'm not gonna begrudge him the initiative that he's shown to do this, like, good for him.

01:42:49.000 But I mean, I do think it's important to keep lines clear because apparently it caused a bunch of confusion.

01:42:54.000 Like, no, he's not this is not turning points thing, nor you know, was it some plan?

01:42:59.000 Like, no, no, no, no.

01:43:01.000 But here's what happened, and this is why I got confusing.

01:43:04.000 Is he you know, you need an organization to get you a space on campus, right?

01:43:11.000 Like, this is the way it works.

01:43:12.000 You have a an official campus recognized school recognized organization, they can then get a room, they can reserve it.

01:43:19.000 Uh, there's a security element that's involved with that.

01:43:22.000 So you need a group, and at some of these campuses, he you know, contacted the like local turning point chapter, and they reserved to they they uh got him a a room.

01:43:32.000 So it it's literally that simple.

01:43:34.000 It's not a it's not a I don't know.

01:43:36.000 I don't know where the confusion came in, but I I just felt bad for him because everybody's dunking on him.

01:43:40.000 Dude, the optics, yes, terrible private plane, master shirt.

01:43:46.000 I mean, it just looked hateable.

01:43:48.000 I totally get it.

01:43:49.000 You know.

01:43:50.000 This is what I wanted to say to him.

01:43:51.000 I I feel so bad that people are ragging on him.

01:43:53.000 I mean, he's just an excited young man who's trying to get involved, but I would recommend that uh he get some marketing.

01:43:58.000 I mean this with respect.

01:44:00.000 No, I think he should lift.

01:44:01.000 Lift, yeah, exactly.

01:44:03.000 I'm not trying to be a dick.

01:44:04.000 I think if I think if he gets like um the private plane, that wasn't a good look.

01:44:08.000 It's not a good and it's funny because I I I quote he said he said something like, 'Hey, I get need to introduce myself to you guys, and I just felt so bad because it's I think that private plane selfie did what like 40 million impressions.

01:44:08.000 It's not a good look.

01:44:21.000 Like I mean, I I felt bad for him, you know, because like on the one hand, I some people were saying he insinuated that he was doing this with turning point or something.

01:44:30.000 Like I think what he was trying to do was just sort of say trying to give turning point some credit because these local chapters and some some instances, not all, like helped him get the space or whatever.

01:44:40.000 So I I like to think that's what it was, but like listen, we're not involved with him, but I wish him well, and there's like certainly no animosity from my my perspective.

01:44:49.000 But yeah, it's important to keep the lines clean, so there you go.

01:44:52.000 All right, we got the Jesse Hughes says, mega Chad Patriot Tate Brown.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:44:57.000 Oh more of those, please.

01:45:00.000 Millennial Mama said to see my friends and family celebrate or even just make excuses for a death that I'm mourning.

01:45:00.000 All right.

01:45:06.000 That was also a shock to my system.

01:45:08.000 It's a new low, and I thought they'd already hit rock bottom.

01:45:12.000 That's what's really crazy about it.

01:45:14.000 It's just I know people.

01:45:21.000 They didn't know who he was.

01:45:23.000 They were just told to hate him.

01:45:24.000 Exactly.

01:45:24.000 And then I said to them, like, hey, like, let's have a conversation about this.

01:45:28.000 They're like, nah.

01:45:29.000 The cult said do it, so they did.

01:45:31.000 And that is terrifying.

01:45:33.000 I've been reading a lot about bleeding Kansas and the French Revolution and the Spanish Revolution, and Lord help us. 0.82

01:45:40.000 Like we gotta pray against it, man.

01:45:40.000 No, I'm not kidding.

01:45:42.000 The the bleeding I recommend people read about bleeding Kansas.

01:45:46.000 How insane it was.

01:45:51.000 They'd go to a random house that they knew was uh anti or like opposing faction, pull drag them out of their houses, kill them on the spot on their knees.

01:45:58.000 Because they were just told, like, I hate you.

01:46:00.000 We that that that's how deep the the and and I know the left is gonna be like, yeah, but slavery is wrong. 0.98

01:46:06.000 I'm talking about the pro-slavery people dragging the anti-slavery people out of their houses.

01:46:10.000 These are people who are literally just had a political opinion and farmed.

01:46:13.000 That's how crazy it got in Kansas.

01:46:15.000 And it wasn't just Kansas, it's what we called it.

01:46:17.000 And this, of course, eventually eventually became the Civil War.

01:46:20.000 Terrifying.

01:46:21.000 Joe Spinella says the Republican Party will win big as we progress forward.

01:46:25.000 The Democrat Party will fade.

01:46:26.000 The Republican Party will split, forming a new party, giving us another two parties as future generations come.

01:46:31.000 I've been thinking that.

01:46:32.000 The Democratic Party is the oldest political party in the world.

01:46:36.000 I think it's probably close to its uh political deathbed.

01:46:39.000 Yeah, it's always just in America the parties replace each other, like just the way that our government's structured, it's pretty much impossible for third parties to exist.

01:46:46.000 So it's more likely, yeah, the Democrat Party balkanizes and then they just get absorbed by like socialist party or something.

01:46:51.000 I mean, the the Democrat Party, for all intents and purposes, is the DSA now, right?

01:46:51.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:46:56.000 Democratic Socialists.

01:46:58.000 Yeah, I mean, i the the truth is is that people get like frustrated about this and we should be more like Europe.

01:47:04.000 And I'm like, well, listen, here's the thing.

01:47:06.000 In America, we form our coalitions before the election.

01:47:08.000 In Europe, they do it after.

01:47:10.000 Okay, so you get the you get the you know virtue signal of voting for this ideologically pure candidate that represents you much more closely, maybe.

01:47:18.000 But then guess what?

01:47:19.000 They're still gonna go right, find common cause and build a coalition with somebody you don't.

01:47:23.000 And so at any point you're going in order to f form a governing majority, you're going to have to form coalitions.

01:47:29.000 So yeah, we have primaries in the UK, they just install their leaders and you have to plug your nose.

01:47:33.000 Like, no, I'll take the primaries.

01:47:34.000 Thank you very much.

01:47:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:47:35.000 Ryan Hodge says, I'll bet fifty bucks that our newborn daughter Cara screams louder than Phil Labante, change my mind.

01:47:41.000 I won't try.

01:47:42.000 I won't try.

01:47:44.000 I'm gonna assume you're you're correct.

01:47:46.000 He's not that loud.

01:47:48.000 Carol W says, I have lost a brother, a sister, and both parents.

01:47:51.000 If you believe in life after death as I do, then you believe they are with you in your heart and in heaven, celebrate their lives.

01:47:58.000 Right on.

01:48:00.000 How do you say this?

01:48:01.000 I'll just call you pick.

01:48:02.000 He says Catholic Latin Mass chanting and long moments of contemplative silence is beautiful and holy.

01:48:09.000 Indeed.

01:48:10.000 Now I'll tell you this story.

01:48:11.000 Uh I met up with uh Seamus Coglin was uh was he he he goes to Latin Mass and I was meeting up with him after he was getting out.

01:48:18.000 I think we're gonna get food or whatever.

01:48:19.000 And I saw the people come out of that church in their Sundays Best, and I saw the children running around and playing in their Sundays best, and I said That's Poland. 0.98

01:48:28.000 I said, tell me what about this is bad in any way and why what we have in the inner cities in like Chicago and New York or LA is better than this.

01:48:36.000 It's such a good it's such a good framing of that.

01:48:39.000 It's like, oh, Christian nationalism, whatever that boogeyman that they're that they're yelling. 0.52

01:48:43.000 It's like how can you just not like objectively look at that and be you know, this is better than that.

01:48:50.000 This what maybe I don't agree, but at least I could see the the upside.

01:48:55.000 You know, like I don't hate it.

01:48:57.000 Yeah, everybody was very nice.

01:48:57.000 Yeah.

01:48:59.000 They were it it was orderly, organized, polite, compassionate.

01:49:04.000 The kids were well well behaved, but having fun.

01:49:07.000 I remember what it was like when I grew up.

01:49:09.000 Now people were shooting each other.

01:49:11.000 You know, not good.

01:49:12.000 Yeah, going to Poland recently.

01:49:15.000 Um was a big wake-up call to how lucky my people have it back there.

01:49:20.000 Yeah, Luke was saying he's gonna he's gonna go go back there forever.

01:49:23.000 If there's not a war.

01:49:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:25.000 So we'll see.

01:49:26.000 Yeah, Kaliningrad's right there, brother.

01:49:27.000 You don't want to be there.

01:49:29.000 You and Jack Pesobuck.

01:49:31.000 Steven Stephen Griffin says, hey, y'all, my daughter is a year old.

01:49:35.000 I never thought I'd get this far.

01:49:36.000 And I'm simultaneously terrified, but excited for the future for obvious reasons.

01:49:39.000 Shout out.

01:49:41.000 Duke says, You're saying have kids.

01:49:44.000 Women that desire child desire children is a prerequisite. 1.00

01:49:47.000 Eighty-five percent of women in their 20s are convinced not to be interested in the notion of children until they're 30 to 35.

01:49:52.000 You don't need to convince men.

01:49:53.000 It's a good go to church.

01:49:55.000 Yeah, go to fish fish where the where the fish are. 0.94

01:49:58.000 Exactly.

01:49:58.000 You can also yeah.

01:49:59.000 Well, just real quick, um, all these these red pill dating bros are like, nah, man, listen, these women, they're promiscuous, they're bad. 1.00

01:50:06.000 What are men supposed to do?

01:50:07.000 And I'm like, stop fishing in whore holes. 1.00

01:50:10.000 Yeah.

01:50:10.000 I don't know.

01:50:11.000 I don't know.

01:50:11.000 I like bro, you're in Miami.

01:50:13.000 I mean, but it is a it is it is like a battle.

01:50:15.000 Come on.

01:50:16.000 Stop it.

01:50:16.000 Like, why are you gonna do it?

01:50:18.000 Like reveal the uh conversation.

01:50:20.000 You can also go to Nebraska, go to Rome.

01:50:22.000 I mean, but there is there is like a looming problem.

01:50:25.000 And actually, Libby Emmons from the Postmillennial had a had a really good uh article in the New York Post where she was she's basically looking, and you could see glimpses of this when Erica spoke.

01:50:38.000 Uh I don't I I talked about on the show today, but the topic she brought up in her speech deserve a little bit of reflection.

01:50:47.000 What did she talk about?

01:50:48.000 She talked about marriage.

01:50:50.000 She talked about men and women.

01:50:51.000 She had an admonition and an encouragement for both.

01:50:54.000 She said, You guys are not each other's rivals, right?

01:50:58.000 And she looked to women and she says she said, Virtue is your power, is your calling.

01:51:04.000 This is like you're calling the women to be more virtuous. 0.91

01:51:07.000 These are important things for women to hear.

01:51:08.000 And Libby Libby saying, Hey, I hope that if Charlie was part of bringing young men back to a place of traditional values and sanity and loving marriage and all this stuff, maybe Erica Kirk can sort of round out and finish the job. 0.99

01:51:21.000 And I pray that that is that is true.

01:51:23.000 And I think she's the perfect person for it, by the way.

01:51:26.000 There was a well, yeah, that was the article in the New York Post that you're talking about.

01:51:28.000 Yeah, Libby Libby wrote it.

01:51:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:30.000 No, she she she crashed this amazing article. 0.99

01:51:32.000 And I would say, so to this guy's point, it's he's not all wrong.

01:51:36.000 There are that I it was not always this way, but I'm confident right now there is more men in the dating pool that want the good things, the virtuous things, than there are women. 0.95

01:51:45.000 But women should be traditionally, historically, more geared that way. 0.99

01:51:49.000 So you gotta have faith that like it's this thing is gonna come full circle.

01:51:53.000 But yeah, if you're one of these good men, fish where the fish are.

01:51:56.000 So uh I am convinced I know who the most prominent celebrity is among women, and it's my baby.

01:52:04.000 Because anywhere I go, any woman walking by treats my baby like a celebrity.

01:52:10.000 Yeah, it is it is it is amazing, and it is so uh what's the right word?

01:52:14.000 Just because you didn't have a dog with you.

01:52:16.000 Heart warming.

01:52:17.000 But uh, we're at a restaurant, meet my wife, my wife and I, and babies in the crib just looking around.

01:52:22.000 Every woman who walks by stops and goes, Oh, like all excited.

01:52:25.000 It's like Jeanette, it's hard hardwired.

01:52:27.000 Bro, women love babies. 1.00

01:52:28.000 Men obviously love babies too, but yeah, that's why it's crazy to me that society has been telling women not to have babies.

01:52:34.000 It's wild, it's one of the greatest lies that's ever been perpetuated.

01:52:38.000 Birth control is one of the most dangerous things for society. 0.97

01:52:41.000 And it also demasculates men as well without their kids in the water supply. 1.00

01:52:44.000 It should be banned immediately.

01:52:46.000 And also the new strat a lot of my friends are deploying is that they they understand that women do biologically want children.

01:52:52.000 So they just become really awesome and invest in themselves and just become like really great men.

01:52:55.000 And then women just want to have kids with them. 1.00

01:52:57.000 Like it's a unique strat.

01:52:59.000 But it works.

01:52:59.000 No, but by the way, I do believe this, and you can hate me if you want.

01:53:03.000 Um, but women will follow men that are worth following. 0.85

01:53:08.000 Yeah, a lot of women will. 1.00

01:53:10.000 Not maybe not all of them.

01:53:11.000 My my my theory is that as Gen Z men move to the right, Gen Z women will follow, and it's for some cold hard science reasons that are probably offensive to feminists. 1.00

01:53:20.000 But let me put it like this.

01:53:22.000 Guys don't have a clock.

01:53:24.000 They they they don't. 0.82

01:53:25.000 You know, the the the saying is that as a guy gets older, the the soldiers down there start dying off, but a couple million, you only need to you'll need one.

01:53:34.000 And the issue for women is that they do have a time limit. 1.00

01:53:37.000 35 years old is called geriatric pregnancy medically, that's a medical term.

01:53:41.000 So what's going to happen is my prediction, you're a lot of these women hold these political views because they're socially told to. 1.00

01:53:48.000 They want to be they want to fit in.

01:53:49.000 Not all of them.

01:53:50.000 Some are strong-willed, obviously they exist.

01:53:52.000 But there's gonna be some women they go on a date with a guy, and they're gonna sit down and he's gonna say, Oh, I'm a I'm a huge conservative and I do this, and she's gonna say, Well, you know, I'm Black Lives Matter and I'm woke, and he's gonna say, Okay.

01:54:03.000 He's like, Well, it's really nice meeting you, but I think it's probably better that I leave, and she's gonna go, Well, I don't know, why, why?

01:54:07.000 And he's gonna say, Listen, I got all the time in the world, I don't think it's appropriate, and I think we wouldn't work together.

01:54:13.000 Women, again, feminists are gonna mad I'm saying this, but women are gonna feel a pressure men do not feel. 0.99

01:54:17.000 Men will say, I'm gonna take my time and find something that's right for me.

01:54:21.000 As these younger women age, they're gonna say, I can't afford that. 1.00

01:54:24.000 No, I I well, I I would tell you one piece of data shows that the women are coming up, and I have not seen enough people talk about this.

01:54:33.000 It was the Yale Youth Survey survey or Yale Youth Poll.

01:54:37.000 It was the first poll I've seen were with women are R plus anything. 0.98

01:54:42.000 So you saw you saw what it was interesting.

01:54:44.000 You saw young men, the youngest voters, the youngest voting cohort, and that would be college voters, young men 18 to 21 were like R plus 19.

01:54:53.000 Wow.

01:54:53.000 Yeah.

01:54:54.000 Young women in that same cohort, R plus four. 0.95

01:54:59.000 Wow.

01:54:59.000 So the youngest.

01:55:00.000 So yeah, if you if you included 18 to 29, that would be a D plus.

01:55:05.000 Yeah.

01:55:05.000 But if you just narrow down on the youngest voters, the 18 to 21, it's R plus four.

01:55:10.000 You know what I think that is, is uh liberals don't have kids.

01:55:13.000 So uh I I bring this up quite a bit, but it I I tracked the data several years ago in the 2000s, conservatives are having two kids and liberals were having 1.5.

01:55:21.000 So the consequences were obvious in 20 years, things would start skewing to the right.

01:55:26.000 So it's they might accelerate.

01:55:27.000 It absolutely is gonna sell.

01:55:28.000 But here's a scary thing that that Ren Alpha is still only around 42 million, 40, 42 million, half the size of Gen Z, half the size of Millennials.

01:55:37.000 So we're seeing a shift towards the right, because the right did have kids, conservatives and Christians had kids.

01:55:42.000 But the population size is is very small.

01:55:45.000 Let's grab this from Bone Shanks. 0.99

01:55:47.000 He says, Charlie met everything head on, regardless of what was in his way.

01:55:51.000 We have to keep this in mind, and it's what I have as the caption for my alarms to wake up every day.

01:55:56.000 Quote, you're not allowed to quit.

01:55:59.000 Here, here.

01:56:00.000 That's how I feel.

01:56:01.000 And uh I think you know, when people make comments about how you're supposed to feel or grieve in the wake of all the stuff, I came into this building with the crew, we're getting ready to go.

01:56:10.000 They were working here, they never stopped working here.

01:56:12.000 Each and every person here who knew and loved Charlie is working and doing their jobs.

01:56:16.000 No one's no one's stopped, no one's giving up, no one's breaking down.

01:56:19.000 But of course, everybody is is sad and scared, but the job must go on.

01:56:24.000 The mission must not stop.

01:56:25.000 By the way, Charlie wouldn't he would be you know how to you disgrace his legacy is you just fall into a heap on the floor.

01:56:33.000 Yeah, and you say, I can't go on.

01:56:35.000 That's how you disgrace his legacy, because that's not like we did the show on the Friday after, and it was the hardest.

01:56:43.000 I think from a career standpoint, it was the hardest thing I've ever done.

01:56:48.000 But it was so important that we did that.

01:56:51.000 And I'm so glad that we did.

01:56:53.000 Shout out to Alex Brusowitz, because he went and did a fox hit right out right after, and I was watching with my wife, and he was trying his best to hold together, but you could you could tell.

01:57:06.000 I mean, he's fighting crying on live television.

01:57:09.000 It's just to many people were it i I'll add this.

01:57:14.000 So many people who didn't even know him were so insanely effective.

01:57:18.000 I can't even begin to tell you.

01:57:20.000 I got people, prominent person, as I've mentioned, I don't want to call anybody out who are texting me about how hurt and how devastated they were by this, and they didn't even know the guy.

01:57:27.000 So for all those people who stood up and and did the job, and to be a man who's on the verge of crying on national television, I I respect that.

01:57:37.000 You are not going to stop doing your job despite the emotional toll it's taking on you.

01:57:41.000 I've made the joke, men are only allowed to cry when their dog dies.

01:57:44.000 No one else.

01:57:45.000 No one else.

01:57:46.000 I'm kidding, of course.

01:57:48.000 I think it's what they say courage is not the absence of fear.

01:57:52.000 It's doing what you have to do in spite of your fear.

01:57:55.000 And what it means to be a man is feeling that pain, but standing up and doing the job because someone has to do it.

01:58:01.000 Yeah.

01:58:01.000 I had to do a hit to sort of on the f it was the Friday night when when Erica gave her first address.

01:58:10.000 And I I did it with Laura Ingram like out on the street on, you know.

01:58:15.000 And uh that was I was on the verge of tears the whole time, you know.

01:58:19.000 And I I'll I'd still kind of look back and go, like, why the hell did I do that?

01:58:23.000 But it was because again, I had this mantra in my head like Charlie Charlie would want that, like he would demand like if he gave his life for this, the least I could do is be a part of channeling this energy that was just unleashed on the country and help push it to the good.

01:58:41.000 That's like, I mean, you just have to be a part of the solution at that point.

01:58:45.000 Like, cause Charlie gave the last full measure.

01:58:49.000 This is what he believed in.

01:58:50.000 And we're gonna, we're gonna just we have to.

01:58:52.000 We have to.

01:58:53.000 There's no option not to.

01:58:54.000 It was it was it was hard when I first walked in the building.

01:58:57.000 Because you know, this set is the set that we had initially used when we were here a couple years ago with Kyle Rittenhouse.

01:59:03.000 And then I saw the screen, I saw the wall, it all came back to my mind, and then instantly in my brain, Charlie's not here, and it was like getting punched in the face.

01:59:14.000 I was like, oof, man.

01:59:16.000 Yeah, the show must go on.

01:59:18.000 Let's try and grab some more here before I lose it.

01:59:21.000 Uh Sir Lauren Keely says, It's my understanding that he was not a Trump supporters in reference to the uh the the church attacker.

01:59:30.000 Also, he was not a let uh latter-day saint.

01:59:33.000 He was anti-LDS.

01:59:35.000 His social media posts and the conversation with a man a week before confirmed this.

01:59:38.000 Am I wrong?

01:59:39.000 Um, there's a photo going around of him wearing a Trump shirt, and it says something like make liberals cry or whatever.

01:59:46.000 And uh initially people were claiming that it was photoshopped and it added the Trump to it.

01:59:51.000 But as my understanding, you can go to the original Facebook post from seven, six, seven years, six years ago and see the original post.

01:59:56.000 The guy is wearing a Trump shirt.

01:59:57.000 I don't know if that means he was a Trump supporter now, to be fair, but the general idea is he's he's not a leftist.

02:00:03.000 He he may be anti-Mormon or whatever.

02:00:04.000 That's the important thing is the the Axios data shows that right now you've got was it 80, 90 percent of attacks are considered left wing.

02:00:15.000 My question was like, where'd all the right wing attacks go?

02:00:17.000 Trump gets in, dismantles USAID, and then the right wing attacks are all gone.

02:00:17.000 It's kind of weird, you know.

02:00:21.000 I just kind of weird, weird.

02:00:22.000 You know, if you were to ask me, I don't know.

02:00:24.000 Who am I?

02:00:25.000 Let's see if I can grab one more here.

02:00:25.000 Who am I?

02:00:28.000 All right, we'll grab two.

02:00:29.000 Lynn Baker says, Ice to every major city.

02:00:31.000 Let's go.

02:00:33.000 All right.

02:00:34.000 Michelle says, Oregon, KPTV news, first news spot, writers fight with police and chase them off using pepper spray, very next spot.

02:00:42.000 Everything in Portland is fine, nothing going on.

02:00:44.000 Bring in the troops, Mr. President.

02:00:46.000 Yep.

02:00:48.000 You know, they want to have their cake and eat it too.

02:00:50.000 They they they you know what I love about this.

02:00:51.000 The Tylenol story, I think my conspiracy theory is that RFK Jr. and Trump staged the Tylenol thing because the Harvard study, Johns Hopkins, Harvard, Mount Sinai, said Tylenol is linked to autism in 2019.

02:01:05.000 Tylenol posted on Twitter in 2017, pregnant shouldn't take it. 1.00

02:01:09.000 I'm sitting there thinking, like, I bet RFK Jr. was like, let's just take an old study, claim it's new, and then watch him gargle Tylenol.

02:01:16.000 And Trump was like, that'll be hilarious.

02:01:18.000 Let's but it proves the point that we knew this for six years about Tylenol.

02:01:23.000 Mainstream peer-viewed science, and now all the mainstream media is saying Trump's wrong about it.

02:01:27.000 That's just laughably insane.

02:01:29.000 But my friends, that is gonna do it for tonight.

02:01:32.000 We're back, of course, tomorrow segments in the morning.

02:01:34.000 Of course, we'll be back uh 8 p.m.

02:01:36.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone.

02:01:38.000 You know, you can follow me on Axe and Instagram at Timcast.

02:01:40.000 Andrew, did you want to shout anything out?

02:01:43.000 You know, um just this Charlie Kirk show.

02:01:45.000 Honestly, we're gonna keep the show going and Erica is super involved.

02:01:52.000 That was Charlie's baby.

02:01:54.000 That was you know, he had a living through the Charlie Kirk show, and he was able to donate all of his salary back to Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action and then some.

02:02:03.000 And so you know, part of his legacy is keeping the Charlie Kirk show going and we've we've got great plans for it.

02:02:09.000 And yeah, you can see us there every day, 12 to 2.

02:02:12.000 Right on.

02:02:12.000 Yeah, this was an important show.

02:02:14.000 Thank you so much for having me.

02:02:15.000 Thank you so much for coming on.

02:02:17.000 Uh if you want to support me, you could get the shirt that I'm wearing that says Trust God, not government.

02:02:21.000 I just posted it on my Twitter account, uh at Luke We Are Change if you want to support everything that I'm doing.

02:02:26.000 Um autistically splurging out on my YouTube channel.

02:02:29.000 So uh there's that too.

02:02:30.000 So thank you guys.

02:02:31.000 We we don't say that word anymore.

02:02:32.000 We say Tylenol Americans. 1.00

02:02:33.000 Yes, true.

02:02:34.000 Uh I'm overdosing on Tylinol on YouTube.com forward slash we are change.

02:02:38.000 I'm also a Tylenol user, Talent All American.

02:02:41.000 You can follow me at RealTate Brown on X and Instagram.

02:02:44.000 Never surrender.

02:02:45.000 Thank you guys.

02:02:46.000 It's so weird when s when there's no one to say the left lane is for crime, but I guess we'll have to deal with that for the for the rest of the week.

02:02:50.000 Thanks, Fred.

02:02:52.000 And the Fed.

02:02:53.000 Oh, there you go.

02:02:54.000 That one works.

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