Jury deliberations in the Trump v. Hillary Clinton trial have ended and the jury is back in session. Will they find Donald Trump guilty or not guilty? What will they do with all the evidence they have? And what will the media have to say about it? All that and much more on this week s episode of The Caspersonal.
00:00:21.000But I guess what is also not surprising is that the judge instructed the jury that when it comes to finding if Trump is guilty, they must unanimously agree that Trump committed a crime.
00:00:34.000The underlying crime can be one of three, by all means, pick yours.
00:00:38.000And as long as you all agree at least one of them was broken, not unanimously, then he is guilty.
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00:02:44.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Mike Lindell.
00:03:01.000We saw a lot more than pillows, everybody, too.
00:03:04.000And I'm here to say my employees all say hello.
00:03:09.000We're still here, even in spite of all the attacks, and my employee-owned company, we've made it through by the grace of God.
00:03:18.000I'm actually backed out to be able to do shows again.
00:03:21.000I've been sitting there back home in Minnesota trying to protect my employees and everything from all the media attacks and the cancellations and the lawfare going on against MyPillow.
00:03:32.000Here's their CEO out there wanting to get secure elections and they get sued.
00:03:37.000It's crazy, the debunking, the cancellations.
00:05:23.000The grotesque trial charade gets even worse this morning.
00:05:26.000The Stalinist clown judge directed the jury that they can choose among three areas of crimes to convict the former president.
00:05:33.000One, violations of federal election law, which no one in the courtroom is familiar with and the judge barred Brad Smith from testifying about.
00:05:40.000Two, falsification of business records.
00:05:44.000Of course, the issue for all of the above is the requirement of criminal intent.
00:05:47.000Furthermore, the idea that jurors can pick one of the three and they don't have to unanimously agree on which of the three is another shocking development.
00:05:55.000Moreover, the federal campaign violation has still not been defined.
00:06:00.000The corporate press, of course, is playing the game where they create their own conspiracy theory and then debunk it to trick people into not realizing what's going on.
00:06:08.000The AP says posts misrepresent New York judges' instructions to jury in Trump hush money trial, claiming That the claim is that the judge told the jury they don't need to have a unanimous verdict.
00:06:25.000Basically, everyone pointed out that what they're saying is, if the jury says, yeah, Trump falsified a record, What is the other crime he's covering up?
00:06:40.000So, buried in this AP assessment false, Merchant said that to convict Trump, the jury will have to find unanimously on each of the 34 felony counts.
00:06:49.000And then when you go down, they actually break down Well, not really.
00:06:54.000The judge told the jury to convict Trump on any given charge.
00:06:57.000To convict, they will have to find unanimously, they all must agree, the former president created a fraudulent entry in the company's records or caused someone else to do so.
00:07:06.000They say the crime Trump committed or hid is a violation of New York election law, making it illegal for two or more conspirators to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means.
00:07:19.000Mershan gave the jurors three possible quote, unlawful means, aka crimes, that they can apply to Trump's charges.
00:07:27.000Falsifying other business records, breaking FEC law, or submitting false information in tax return.
00:07:34.000For conviction, each juror would have to find that at least one of those three things happened, but they don't have to agree unanimously on which it was.
00:07:42.000This whole time we've been wondering, what is the underlying crime?
00:07:46.000They took a misdemeanor beyond the statute of limitations and said, yes, but he was concealing another crime.
00:07:52.000Therefore, it's now a felony and we can charge him.
00:07:54.000And everyone said, what's the underlying crime?
00:07:56.000Oh, and the jury can figure it out if they want, but they don't got to be unanimous.
00:08:00.000This is a rigged trial from the judge.
00:08:04.000I'm not convinced that I think there's a decent probability Trump gets convicted.
00:08:09.000I don't know what you do about a situation that's so convoluted.
00:08:16.000The feds don't have any kind of authority to step in and it seems like the entire Justice Department of the state of New York is going to allow this.
00:08:27.000I mean, it's on its face, it seems completely and totally ridiculous.
00:08:33.000It also seems like everyone's kind of like, well, you know, once it gets to appeals, it's going to be obviously overturned or whatever, which would be the right thing.
00:08:43.000I'm still just like, I don't, I don't, I feel like- How long does that take?
00:08:46.000Yeah, I feel like there needs to be some kind of remedy to, to, I wish there were, I, I feel like there should be, even if there isn't, uh, some kind of remedy to stop this, but I don't, I don't know that there is.
00:08:55.000It's weird that the prosecution doesn't have to be specific in the crime that they're alleging they're trying to cover up.
00:09:01.000I feel like that's part of the Constitution!
00:09:03.000It reminds me of, you know, that show, Whose Line Is It Anyways?
00:09:05.000And Drew Carey would always be like, well, the points don't matter.
00:09:08.000Like, that's the prosecution right now.
00:09:09.000The crimes don't matter as long as you convict.
00:09:11.000Which is obviously, to me, an abuse of the justice system.
00:09:14.000And, you know, you're completely right.
00:09:16.000This, if tried as a misdemeanor, they couldn't have brought it after 2019.
00:09:21.000And it wouldn't come with the jail sentence.
00:09:22.000So there's, there's this weird, it all comes down to the fact that they are trying this as a felony, but the judge just said, But just forget about the stuff that would make it a felony.
00:10:08.000But anyway, these are times where, you know, it's like, you know, so many nonsensical things and you just gotta look at what's the real agenda.
00:10:18.000There's another agenda if you can't make sense of it.
00:10:20.000And, you know, I think it's backfiring, though.
00:10:24.000You know, I talked to our president, I'll say our real president, the other day, and he talks about, you know, all the time that This weaponizing against him.
00:11:07.000And of course, if that's the case, because that's the rumor going around, or it may be definitive news, I haven't checked, but if that's true, we all know what he's going to say.
00:11:14.000He's going to say Donald Trump is a convicted felon.
00:11:26.000It's like, you know, the kid, the cold wolf, the little boy, the cold wolf, it keeps going on and people are seeing through it.
00:11:31.000And I'm not just people on the right or people on the left to say it's like their eyes are getting open that this is a this is a weaponization against all of our rights.
00:11:40.000You know, I've you know, I've got things that have been that are going on.
00:11:43.000And I really think that People see through that.
00:11:46.000Any other time in history, you could go back and pick any indictment that he's gotten or anything that's happened, and they're done.
00:11:53.000Your political career is over, you know?
00:11:56.000I take, even myself as a businessman, you know, I get, well, they couldn't get my pass, so he's a crack guy.
00:12:02.000Yeah, I admitted it, so I said it right away, right?
00:12:04.000But, you know, you get a phone taken at a Hardee's drive-thru, everyone's going, and normally, in a normal world, they say, what crime did you commit, Mike?
00:13:06.000And you ask him why, and there's different reasons.
00:13:07.000Well, one of the biggest things is what they are, economy right now, and the border open, and the fentanyl porn, and things like that.
00:13:14.000But they're also looking at, as he's getting attacked, you know, they're flipping into this bucket of common sense going, you know.
00:13:22.000I told, on his first indictment, I remember saying, you know, his polls went up.
00:13:27.000And I said, man, you keep getting indicted to your polls, you're pretty sure you're going to have more votes than voters like Pennsylvania, you know.
00:13:34.000You know, they have more votes than voters every election in Pennsylvania.
00:13:36.000Well, they're really good at what they do.
00:13:40.000I mean, I think Trump has really struck a chord in the way that, you know, progressive sort of activists in these ADAs and district attorney's offices couldn't have predicted.
00:13:51.000Like, being somebody who is being sort of chased by the federal government, who is being persecuted on the level that he is, really won his hearts and minds of people, especially people who are not that interested in politics.
00:14:35.000It doesn't matter what party you're in.
00:14:36.000You know, I like to point out, uh, Fareed Zakaria on CNN saying this case would not
00:14:41.000have been brought against a person whose name was not Donald Trump.
00:14:45.000It's a really stupid way of saying they only brought this case because it's Trump.
00:14:49.000But when CNN is saying that, regular people hear it, and then when you hear stuff like this, this is why the AP is trying to cover up for the judge.
00:15:38.000Then it'll give you this huge two-page breakdown, and at the very bottom it'll say, while it is true that Trump did a backflip on Saturday, he did not do it on Sunday, when no one made that claim.
00:15:47.000And to exemplify this, we know for a fact, the judge said, the underlying crime can be one of three, so long as you agree at least one of them was broken.
00:15:57.000Even if you don't agree that he broke all of them, or you're not even unanimous, it's fine to convict him on the first charge.
00:16:04.000What they've changed now is, according to the AP, they're saying the claim is that you don't need a
00:16:09.000unanimous verdict to convict Trump. When the claim was always you don't need to be unanimous on the
00:16:16.000underlying crime. What they've done is they've created their own conspiracy. And what will
00:16:21.000happen now is regular people, you'll be sitting at dinner.
00:16:24.000We've got the Fourth of July coming up.
00:16:27.000You're going to you're going to come to the family and you're going to be at the lake drinking a beer
00:16:30.000and you're going to be talking about this case. And they'll be like, no, that's fake news,
00:16:33.000because I read in the AP. And then it's going to be difficult for you to try to explain how the AP
00:16:37.000lied by creating their own fake argument. And then at the.
00:16:40.000Bottom of the article actually saying they don't have to agree unanimously on which crime was committed.
00:16:49.000You know, my personal experience with that, we were just talking before the show, I have all the journalists, I think every journalist in the world on my phone, and they'll attack and attack, and I'll write these articles, the headline will be, you know, Mike Lindell did this, or whatever, or we talked about the warehouse.
00:17:05.000Michael and Jill, my pillow's out in the street.
00:17:08.000The employees, they lost their warehouse.
00:17:10.000Well, then you read down through the article, and then you get the truth at the bottom.
00:17:13.000But in the meantime, everyone's calling me up.
00:17:15.000They're going, you know, what do you do?
00:17:18.000Are you ashamed of what you stood up for?
00:17:23.000But that, for me, I've used that as a way to get the word out, even.
00:17:26.000And I was just saying, some of these journalists, I've actually become weird friends with them, going, hey, you've got to bash me a little more, because otherwise you're boss.
00:17:33.000Otherwise, your boss isn't going to print the article.
00:18:48.000After the direct examination of Michael Cohn by the prosecution, look at where we are now.
00:18:56.000The percentage of Americans who think that the charges are very serious in fact dropped from 40% to a little bit more than 35% during the course of this trial.
00:19:06.000So yes, perhaps things might have changed with those 12 jurors, but when it comes to the larger American public, there has been no Change at least so far, John.
00:19:17.000I really love how he had to write no with his finger on their stupid screen.
00:19:21.000I like that he's presenting it as a win.
00:19:24.000Yeah, I think the question is what's exactly cooking here?
00:19:27.000Why hasn't there been much of a change?
00:19:29.000While folks like you and me, real news junkies, might be paying really close attention to what's going on, the fact is most Americans Don't really care that much.
00:19:39.000So closely following news about economy inflation, that's number one at 65%.
00:20:30.000I told, I was talking, when I talked to our president the other day, when I say that, I was talking with Donald Trump, and I said, you have this bucket here, this common sense bucket, and I told him, you know, as things keep, he keeps getting attacked, his polls keep going up, and once you're in the bucket, I told him, you've given nobody a reason to leave that bucket, because he can go back to point to December of 2019, And all of us, our lives, no matter where you started or how many forks you ate with, your lives have somewhat improved with the economy all the time, highest consumer confidence ever.
00:21:04.000And now the destruction that's going on with the economy and the borders, and being an ex-crack addict, worried about the addiction, the hopelessness with the fentanyl pouring across and deaths all over.
00:21:16.000These things are driving people to this bucket of common sense, and they don't care about all this nonsense that we're having to go through.
00:21:23.000That other case where I'm sitting in Mar-a-Lago the other day where that one judge said Mar-a-Lago was worth like 18 million or some nonsense.
00:21:31.000I'm going, this wing's worth 18 million.
00:21:33.000I know what the properties are worth around there, and you just can't You put your head around this and going, what's going on?
00:21:59.000This always makes me laugh because CNN is almost like, well, you know, we have to justify because we thought people would be obsessed with this.
00:22:05.000Because I assume CNN or maybe the prosecution would assume that as they present their case and the media freaks out about it.
00:22:12.000CNN covered it nonstop that more people would start to believe that Donald Trump had done something wrong.
00:22:17.000But in fact, the fact that there's no change tells you how ineffective this prosecution was.
00:22:26.000And I think they're lying about their staying even.
00:22:29.000It's probably so much pouring into this bucket they gotta go, we'll just say it's even, that it's not going up, when really it's going up.
00:22:35.000I do wonder how much you guys think the admission from CNN is gonna actually move the needle.
00:22:41.000Now I don't think that actually anything coming from the courtroom is gonna, but I do wonder if like the people that have been Spreading the narrative and the viewers have been used to kind of allowing them to shift, you know, as the narrative shifts and not really interrogate the change.
00:23:01.000Do you think that this is going to move the needle?
00:23:03.000Do you think that they're going to be like, well, maybe because CNN, you know, I mean, how much do you think it's going to matter if at all?
00:23:09.000So a couple of years ago, You know, I was at a family dinner for Thanksgiving, and it was very much the, you got your liberal family members, and you got your conservative family members.
00:23:20.000And then last year, it was a nobody was with Biden.
00:23:26.000So, you know, without getting into too much detail for the sake of people's privacy, it was kind of like, you know, a couple years ago, it's like, no, Trump's bad.
00:23:40.000And that's like, I just spent like a week in Chicago and I'm not kidding.
00:23:44.000I couldn't believe it that these people, I went to the Capitol and all the, the Democrats there were coming up to me and asking me, cause they're, you know, I'm all for election platforms, securing our elections.
00:23:53.000And they're coming up, these are the politicians coming out to me, even they see what's going on.
00:23:58.000I really believe that, that you look around and I don't, you know, it's a destruction that's going on, but it's actually, You know, all these things that's getting, you know, I call them Uniparty Republicans, I call them blockers out there, the Brad Rassenburgers, the Robin Voss of the world that I'm trying to get gone.
00:24:14.000And these guys, there's been so much revealed as and by This onion being opened up, you know, what was the nonsense of shutting down the pipeline on the first day when he was in power?
00:24:28.000The other stuff, more destruction than anything, you know, all the entrepreneurs in our country, the shipping charges, the stuff that goes with that is destroying and people, they don't see what's really going on there.
00:24:38.000This mom-and-pop business is where you have these shipping charges because of one thing, you know, you shut down the pipeline, you know, gas prices can control everything.
00:24:48.000What I do believe when Donald Trump, I'll say when he's back in, that this can all be fixed maybe better than ever because we've all learned so much what does destroy what is open, you know, open our eyes.
00:25:25.000What happened was there is supply and demand and there's future prospecting on the amount of supply that's going to be available.
00:25:31.000When Biden shut down Keystone, basically all of the speculators and all of the companies said, without this pipeline, we are going to be in a supply deficit within X amount of years.
00:25:42.000By now, to bolster our stocks of petroleum, and then other speculators come in saying, oh wow, I'm going to get rich when the price skyrockets.
00:25:53.000This speculation causes immediate prices of crude to go up, and then you feel it at the gas pump.
00:26:43.000But the fact of the matter is, like, there are still things that the Biden
00:26:47.000administration could do that would help the not just the cost of fuel like gas,
00:26:52.000but the cost of everything, because the cost of gas is such a large part of
00:26:58.000every single thing we purchase, you know.
00:27:02.000So Biden could come out and be like, I want to raise gas prices and they just go nuts.
00:27:06.000The whole system would freak out because people start making crazy moves.
00:27:10.000There was this moment when the, I think it was the Syrian electronic army, which was a couple of hackers based in Russia, actually supporting Syria.
00:27:17.000I think they were Syrian, but they were refugees.
00:27:55.000He could do something too, but he's so beholden to the eco-crazies that he's got to deal with in his own party.
00:28:02.000Yeah, he did make environmentalism a huge part of his platform.
00:28:05.000But I think actually a larger component would probably be the Saudis.
00:28:08.000I think Biden's looking to cut a deal with Saudi Arabia of, OK, you keep the flow rolling, we'll cut down giving you control over supply so long as you agree to work with us.
00:28:18.000You know, that's how the petrodollar works.
00:28:20.000Earn favor with Saudi Arabia, you're going to make a lot more money as the main supplier.
00:28:24.000We'll cut back, but don't do it out of turn.
00:28:26.000We want to control how much you're actually putting out.
00:28:29.000So you get more from when Saudi Arabia dumps oil into the market, it affects the dollar.
00:28:41.000But I think Joe Biden is basically the you know, I told this to Trump.
00:28:46.000It seems like the MAGA platform is secure our borders, bring our jobs back, get the American workers back to work, boost our economy internally.
00:28:54.000And the Democrat platform is, no, no, no, we don't need to do any of that.
00:28:57.000All we got to do is send our men and women overseas to go fight in wars, to go blow up people and get blown up, and then hopefully we can control enough territory and energy that we can just take from everybody else.
00:29:09.000That's not a successful policy in the long term.
00:29:11.000It results in terror, blowback, war, and conflict, and nobody wants to spend money on that.
00:29:16.000I've seen something that was such irony.
00:29:20.000I think it might have been on Facebook or Twitter or something and here in California.
00:29:24.000So you take away your police and you have all these electric cars and all the stations where all of them were caught because there's copper in the lines and all of them were ransacked.
00:30:17.000One time on a show when I did my first rally, they go, you know, I was on the, I was, I was on a radio station yesterday and there was like 20,000 people at this rally.
00:30:44.000I don't know why they laughed, because they were like, well, what's the difference?
00:30:49.000But the point being, what I was saying, when I met him, it was such, I met him August 15, 2016, and he invited me there just because I had my pillow made in the USA.
00:30:58.000And he wanted to ask me, this nobody from Minnesota that had built a company from, you know, being an American dream.
00:31:04.000And he said, how is it making your stuff here?
00:31:24.000But it was, it was so many common sense solutions to, you know, to, uh, I go, wow, this is like a businessman, like a CEO.
00:31:32.000If a president, I never know what a president, you know, I never met one before.
00:31:36.000I go, you know, that's when I went all in.
00:31:37.000I'm going, man, if he really does this, it's problem-solution, and he has a gift of what it's going to manifest to help all people.
00:31:44.000I always tell people, when government's making decisions that don't help either party, if it doesn't help any of the people, there's a hidden agenda.
00:31:53.000You know, there's a hidden agenda, and it's not good.
00:32:08.000Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
00:32:10.000Hunter Biden to sue Fox News for calling him a degenerate crackhead.
00:32:15.000Heavens, why would they say such a thing?
00:32:18.000Hunter Biden is preparing to sue Fox News for defamation, alleging the network exploited his drug addiction to dehumanize him.
00:32:25.000His lawyers sent a letter to Fox News several weeks ago threatening legal action for allegedly collaborating with Trump operatives and pro-Russia nationals to defame him for profit.
00:32:34.000The letter demands retractions, corrections, and on-air apologies.
00:32:37.000Hunter Biden's attorneys told the Daily Beast they plan to file a lawsuit shortly.
00:32:40.000Hunter Biden also expressed his frustrations in an interview with the outlet, stating,
00:32:44.000I'm not saying my addiction is an excuse for my bad behavior.
00:32:47.000What I'm saying is that my addiction is not an excuse for them to dehumanize me
00:32:50.000and in so dehumanize everybody from the addict that you pass it on the street
00:32:55.000to the one that you live with. That is the principal motivating factor.
00:33:05.000In response to a potential lawsuit, a spokesperson for Fox News cited the company's statement about constitutionally protected coverage regarding a public figure who has been the subject of investigations by both the DOJ and Congress and has been indicted by two different U.S.
00:33:17.000attorneys' offices in California and Delaware And has admitted to multiple incidents of wrongdoing.
00:33:23.000So in his book, he said he was a crack addict, a crack daddy, and a crack head.
00:33:29.000You can't sue someone for that, you know?
00:33:31.000Well, you know, maybe he thinks because Fox pays off on frivolous lawsuits, so maybe he thinks he's got a chance, you know?
00:33:51.000That's another thing, too, that bothers me in this country with lawfare and everything else.
00:33:56.000You can be right on something, and it costs you more to say, no, I didn't do this, I'm in the middle of it, I know.
00:34:03.000You know, it's disgusting, these suits that are gone.
00:34:05.000Especially when you're suing, like, the government, right?
00:34:09.000Like, if the government's coming after you, they can spend taxpayer money all day long, forever and ever, whereas you eventually, I mean, maybe not you, but the average American will run out of money at some point.
00:34:17.000They took my cell phone and I sued the FBI and our government.
00:34:39.000I got other bigger fights, so everybody has to—and they still have my phone.
00:34:43.000I have my grandkids' pictures on there that I can't get off of, you know?
00:34:47.000Even the judges in Minnesota, the Supreme Court there, the Ninth Circuit or Eighth Circuit, whatever it was, they go—the three judges go, Are you going to give us phone back?
00:35:14.000It's like a jury, disregard what you just heard.
00:35:17.000It's bizarre, the weaponization that's going on.
00:35:24.000When you talk about defamation, and you talk about my cases, the electronic machines that were used by our government, they're basically our government device in all our elections.
00:35:36.000Why should I and Sue just say, hey, I want to see inside them?
00:35:39.000You know, I want some transparency here.
00:35:41.000Yeah, Ian often says that election machines should, the source code should be open source.
00:37:04.000Well this Judge Wang decided, you know what, I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
00:37:08.000You go ahead and pay for discovery and everything else and move this forward.
00:37:12.000If I didn't have the resources, if somebody off the street, if a judge did that to them and they were completely innocent, And they did that and said, you go spend all this money on lawyers and all this garbage.
00:37:31.000You don't change our country and, you know, change our country and set a precedence where every judge can go, oh, we're not going to do it.
00:37:38.000I'm not going to rule on the dismissal.
00:37:59.000You know, what does this have to do with you and your crooked client, you know?
00:38:03.000People don't understand that You know, they think this country was once... We've always been in some kind of conflict.
00:38:12.000We've always been in some kind of escalating state of conflict, but in the 90s things were pretty okay.
00:38:18.000The Democrats and Republicans got along on most issues and argued, and so that's kind of where people are like, That's when things were pretty good.
00:38:34.000Today, we are back in this conflict state where, look, you probably know it better than I do, when it comes to lawsuits, one of the first things the lawyer asks is, where do you want to file?
00:39:52.000judges down in Georgia, where Obama appointed a judge.
00:39:56.000Actually, it was three and a half years, this case against Crooked Brad Rassenburger down there, the Secretary of State, and the curling case.
00:40:03.000Finally, last fall, she said, she made a ruling, said, hey, the experts have looked inside these machines.
00:40:09.000And she said, we're going to bring this to court, or bring it to trial.
00:40:13.000And she said, and if you question the machines, you're not a conspiracy theorist.
00:40:17.000I was so happy I got to take off my tinfoil hat on national TV.
00:40:21.000Jimmy Kimmel, he aired it where I, you know, hey, just because I want to talk about it doesn't mean I'm a conspiracy theorist.
00:40:27.000So then it goes to her court in January in Georgia.
00:40:31.000Guy Halderman, the expert, with a ballpoint pen, hacked into the machine in front of her and changed the election in five minutes.
00:40:38.000And so now she's in a tough position because that is she's still delivering
00:40:43.000What do we do now in Georgia to get rid of these machines that were proved right there? There's problems, you know,
00:40:48.000there's problems We're not turning over an election proving that you're just
00:40:51.000proving you can't use these devices. That's all it is She's got to make a decision.
00:40:56.000My guess is, well, let's just wait till after 2024.
00:40:58.000You know, in Georgia, this is the third election in a row that waited with those machines for a ruling on that case, where Crooked Brad Rasmussen, the Secretary of State, a Republican, the biggest uniparty blocker in history, keeps blocking down there and blocking and blocking.
00:41:14.000And one of the things you said, I really believe when you say our country, when you talk about this division, this argument, I believe what's going on now is uniting the people.
00:41:25.000I think it's uniting the people where we're going to get to a common place going, Hey, we want to have the American dream here.
00:41:31.000We, you know, we want to, we want to live our freedoms.
00:41:34.000We want to have, you know, it doesn't matter what party you're in, where you have the parties, the media will put this together that the, that there's arguments here.
00:41:41.000And you, like you even said it best, you get less arguments now a year later or two years later at the dinner table where you have this divide.
00:41:49.000It's the bad things going are actually uniting.
00:41:52.000Well, I think this is true of the judicial systems in the US, right?
00:41:55.000I think it's actually a very bipartisan feeling to think that you're going to go to court and if the judge decides they will rule against you, they could potentially make it extremely difficult for you, that the fees of fighting a lawsuit that maybe you really need to are so overwhelming that you could basically risk everything.
00:42:13.000I mean, it's something that people of all political persuasions fear and we're seeing it play out over and over and over.
00:42:21.000In all kinds of cases—businesses, political, personal—I mean, it is something that I think the media thought, oh, we'll scare people into believing that this is the way forward.
00:42:30.000But actually what ended up happening is people are looking around going, this system is going to break me, and I cannot keep up with it.
00:42:38.000And I think for where God has put me on this platform out there where, you know, I spent most of my time in the inner cities of Minneapolis back in the day.
00:42:49.000And so out there, when they see, you know, when I see people all over the country now, it's like, they don't come out to me, oh, you're a Donald Trump supporter.
00:43:20.000I've talked to France, Germany, UK, the Netherlands, all these places that have secure elections because they use paper ballots, hand counting.
00:43:57.000Do you think that concerns about election security or election integrity are going to deter people from voting this year?
00:44:03.000Do you think we'll have low or high voter turnout?
00:44:05.000I think it's going to be the highest in history because it's flipped on that too.
00:44:09.000People, people, I told this to Donald Trump too, I said, you know, I said, people are You know, you always say, hey, let's get everybody to get out and vote.
00:44:18.000Now you're seeing, like, I'm from Minnesota.
00:44:26.000And there, it's like, everybody's engaged to vote because they know, they believe that the system, that the elections are rigged, and that the elections, whether it be the machines, the early voting, the drop boxes, whatever you want to call it, and they believe that, hey, We've got one shot and we've got to completely override this and then we can fix the platform.
00:44:45.000I'm out there fixing as much as I can.
00:44:47.000We have over 250 counties that are now going to go to paper ballots hand-counted.
00:44:51.000You can check that out at LyndalePlan.com.
00:44:53.000I have over 300,000 people in all 50 states and we work from the county up.
00:44:59.000Most counties can vote them out themselves and just go to paper.
00:45:45.000We're going to go back to the machines, you know.
00:45:47.000Right, because whoever has the money is ultimately making the decisions.
00:45:50.000That's what I find really interesting about all of this, which is that, you know, today's voters, especially young voters, if you're being told constantly, your vote doesn't matter because you're already in a state that's going to definitely go to whatever candidate or, you know, anything could happen with the ballots or whatever it is, like, it actually, my concern would be that it would deter people from participating in the system.
00:46:42.000However broken it is, we've got to use what we got.
00:46:45.000And people say to me, No, no, finish, finish.
00:46:47.000But people say to me, they go, because there's a big argument, oh, you go out there and be like the Democrats and vote early, and I'm going, rubbish, you know, that's me.
00:46:55.000I'll say it straight out, you vote same day, I know from everything I do, you vote same day, you get out to vote.
00:47:01.000Of course, if you can't vote early, but I tell people, take those mail-in votes they drop like Michigan, 7 million over the state, go, everybody just have at it, take your vote, your ballot that you got sent, Don't vote early and go in there election day and if they say, oh, you already voted, say, no, I haven't.
00:48:00.000Quote, What I've seen over the past three and a half years is that a series of debacles and missteps have created a tremendous pressure on the fault lines of our economy, and they're about ready to crack.
00:48:10.000Whoever gets the next stint in the White House is going to be hit with a wrecking ball in trying to correct the missteps and the overspending of this current administration.
00:48:18.000So we're in for a rough time, I would say.
00:48:21.000Take a note down, screenshot it, put it in your phone, because when Donald Trump wins and the economy is in shambles, they're going to blame Trump.
00:48:29.000And then when things start getting better, they're going to say, oh, well, it's in spite of Trump.
00:49:38.000All of them, without that, they were so hurting.
00:49:41.000You know, they're hurting because of, like you say, shipping, everything else with this economy.
00:49:49.000I think, you know, you read that up there that it's going to clack the economy.
00:49:52.000I believe if Donald Trump, I'll say when he's in, just on the what everybody knows, because he's already been there, done that, and now it's going to be done.
00:50:04.000Now what he's learned, it's going to even be better.
00:50:06.000I think everything's going to just be almost faster than you could ever imagine, you know.
00:50:13.000And I really believe that just on, um, you know, you see companies like when they do an IPO, just on the hope or whatever that, you know, because he's got something to back it up.
00:51:10.000And so young people can't find work when they need it.
00:51:13.000And they end up sitting around doing nothing, getting good at nothing.
00:51:16.000And then by the time they're in their 20s, they're like, I don't know what to do.
00:51:17.000Just like with the futures and the stock market that we were talking about.
00:51:21.000When Donald Trump was elected last time, the business community was like, alright, this guy is friendly to business.
00:51:30.000He understands how difficult it is to do business with all the regulations.
00:51:35.000If you have him elected again, you're going to have the economy respond because the people that actually invest and actually build things are going to say, well, look, it will be a friendly business environment.
00:51:48.000And signaling that to the economy is a big deal.
00:51:52.000Like if you signal to the economy that it's going to be an unfriendly environment for people to invest, for people to try and build their business, they're not going to because the most important thing for most entrepreneurs is preserving capital.
00:52:04.000Right, it makes me think of – because the Biden administration placed such a priority on all of the environmental policies, regardless of how they affected business, you'll see headlines that are like, you know, the last two coal mines in New England are shutting – or coal plants in New England are shutting down.
00:52:19.000And they tout it as this victory, right?
00:52:22.000But they don't want to talk about the jobs that they cost.
00:52:25.000They'll say, oh, well, anyone who loses a job because of this program, we're going to transition you into doing this new thing or whatever else.
00:52:30.000But ultimately, they are pushing this environmentalist agenda at the cost of the economy.
00:52:36.000Can you imagine being a business right now?
00:55:10.000That's exactly right, and that's why I believe, I believe that's why they didn't make all the illegals legal when they had everything before, when the Democrats did, because I believe that there's all this big money in California, Texas, Arizona, Colorado now, and Minnesota, where they're paying all these illegals cash, and they're not paying federal taxes.
00:55:42.000The second is they want the tax revenue to maintain the Social Security Administration.
00:55:47.000The concern is that by 2033 the system starts buckling and breaking and then by 2037 it's gone.
00:55:53.000So they bring in 15 million people over the course of a couple years, then overnight they get 15 million new voters, they bolster their majorities in Congress, and they can now target these people with 87,000 new IRS agents to put money into Social Security to prop the system back up.
00:56:22.000And one of the things at the rally I was just at that I spoke at and Donald Trump said, when he says, as soon as I'm in office, and he was naming the things that we addressing all those top three, the third one, he said, and I'm going to secure our elections.
00:57:18.000And they're pitching stuff and I'm talking to them.
00:57:21.000All of them had voted Democrat, and they're going, you guys realize, I said, I don't know much about politics, but I said, this is $7.80 gas, and decisions that were made by Donald Trump manifested to good for everybody, right?
00:57:34.000And they, so anyway, I had to educate them.
00:57:36.000Well, I went and ate at this restaurant, and this gal came out, the manager came out, and they took a picture, and they put it up on their social media, the owner did.
00:58:38.000We're giving them pillows and blankets, but almost bar none, they were coming up and they're going, All they wanted to hear about is if our country had a chance to have the American Dream, which I've lived on steroids going from where I have to crack head, but they have too.
00:58:51.000They came from places, came from the bottom, and they had built up their lives.
00:58:55.000They knew if we could save our country...
00:58:59.000That they could get those worldly possessions back.
00:59:01.000The only thing they cared about was losing our country, that they came in here legally and live here now, because a lot of them have been to places that don't have our freedoms.
00:59:11.000That meant so much to me, and I think that's what you're seeing all around, is people are looking for hope.
00:59:19.000And it doesn't matter what party you're in.
00:59:20.000Well, that's why I like the story that you're telling about this restaurant in California, which is like people can supply each other hope.
00:59:26.000They don't have to look to the government or politicians all the time.
00:59:28.000Like the fact that this woman is being attacked, people are like, no, we're going to go to your restaurant.
00:59:31.000You do see that on occasion where people will say like, the way you're being treated is wrong and I'm going to stand up in the way I can.
00:59:37.000Maybe you don't have a media platform, maybe you just patron their business.
00:59:40.000I think that's the thing that Americans are really craving right now, sort of amidst all the stress and bombardment of, you know, all of these negative headlines, people want to believe that things can get better.
00:59:51.000And I think this has been the interesting thing of contrasting the Biden campaign's messaging with the Trump campaign's messaging, which is the Biden administration will say, well, we're the party of hope and we're a party of the future.
01:00:03.000He said that at one of his rallies and then only talked about January 6th in the past.
01:00:07.000And Trump really does feel like he is saying, like, things are rough right now, but we're headed towards better waters.
01:00:15.000And I think people need that message, because otherwise it just makes you disenfranchised.
01:00:20.000You know, my network, and I'll say it at frankspeech.com, that's all I do is put out the hope every day, the things we're doing, being proactive.
01:00:29.000And being proactive out there and where the hope is, I tell people, quit watching, you know, If I see people depressed out there, I'd say, I watch Fox day in and day out.
01:00:43.000Well, they're not gonna tell you the hope.
01:00:54.000And you combine what's going on right now that's so sad is with the open borders and the fentanyl pouring in, people that are losing hope are turning to addiction or addicts are getting worse.
01:03:11.000Heck, I cancelled my Twitter and Newsmax, the guy tears his microphone off because I started telling about why I got cancelled.
01:03:18.000But it was millions of dollars and we're not getting them back.
01:03:23.000There are a lot of people that, man, they can't go vote.
01:03:28.000They just can't be bothered to take a day to get up Walk over and go vote, and you were willing to sacrifice hundreds of millions of dollars in a desperate plea to the people to have secure elections.
01:03:43.000It's because I learned how important they are.
01:03:46.000You know, like I said, I told you, when I met Donald Trump in the summer of 69, I didn't know a liberal from a conservative.
01:03:52.000I didn't know what a Democrat Republican was, if you go back to 15.
01:03:55.000I was just so, you know, Out there, I was busy with my own stuff, my own life, but I learned pretty quick how important politics were, and everything we're in.
01:04:08.000One of the things with Donald Trump, they had an opiate bill that came out, and this was right up my alley with trying to help addicts out there and lead them to God.
01:04:16.000and to Jesus, and this is what I was out evangelizing and stuff, but he invited me to the opiate bill
01:04:23.000because in our country, 32 states have laws on the books, this is pretty crazy, that you can't treat an addict
01:04:32.000unless you have four years of college, you swim the English Channel, climb three trees,
01:04:51.000I've been to so many treatment centers back in the day that we did in the 80s.
01:04:54.000You go get a DWI, you go to treatment, get your license back, or gambling, whatever it was, and we would go through the motions, and addicts have forgotten more about addiction than these counselors know, and they're looking for hope, and that's why my network, the Lindell Recovery Network, that's hope, and it's free.
01:05:12.000Matthew Perry, the actor from Friends, he said during when he was filming that show he'd struggled with addiction and went out and started addiction recovery centers or rehabs.
01:05:20.000I think probably similar reasonings, right?
01:05:22.000Like if you have lost everything because of addiction, you might even feel more called to intervene in someone else's life and say, You know, we need to get you on a different track.
01:05:31.000Right, you've been there, and what I do at my network, you'll get to the website, you'll put down your age and your drug of choice.
01:05:39.000So the commonality of the drug, the big thing in secular treatment centers, they have like a 5% success rate.
01:05:46.000The God-based, the faith-based ones, 80% and up.
01:05:49.000So what Donald Trump did with that opiate bill, when he did that opiate bill, everyone was arguing, fighting over this money, right?
01:05:56.000And he came up with a plan, a common sense solution.
01:06:51.000Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.
01:06:54.000BuzzFeed clashes with Vivek Ramaswamy, the former GOP presidential candidate, who has invested in BuzzFeed, believes the company needs to pivot.
01:07:01.000He wants to see commentators like Tucker Carlson in its lineup.
01:07:05.000Shout out to Vivek on one of the ballsiest moves I have seen.
01:07:12.000I don't know if Vivek is sitting there watching Elon Musk being like, I'm jealous.
01:07:16.000He buys Twitter, turns it into X, brings a bunch of accounts back.
01:07:20.000Vivek buys, what does he got, like 8.3% of BuzzFeed.
01:07:25.000Sent a letter to the company's board of directors saying they've got to change their business practices and journalistic efforts.
01:07:31.000They say though he has been steadily buying up stock for months, his intentions for the company didn't become clear until this week.
01:07:36.000Before his brief run for president, he made a fortune in the pharmaceutical business.
01:07:39.000He's pushing BuzzFeed to add three new members to its board to hone its focus on audio and video content and embrace greater diversity of thought.
01:07:57.000I don't know they can afford Tucker Carlson.
01:07:59.000They've got to pay him a lot of money.
01:08:01.000But think throughout also Aaron Rodgers and Candace Owens, right?
01:08:04.000Like what he's saying is you guys had this old model and you had some success but it's all falling apart now and you need to adopt a strategy.
01:08:12.000And I'm here to say – like, one of the lines in his letter that he wrote to them was, you know, I know you're going to instinctively reject what I'm saying because of partisan attitudes, but I think you should try and think about what I'm saying and the fact that 150 million Americans tend to look at the world the way I do.
01:08:29.000Like, if you really want to be a sustainable business, you can't be siloed in one opinion.
01:08:56.000And since then, he's gone up above eight.
01:08:58.000And his message was basically, I'm going to continue doing this, moving up his importance among the shareholders and saying, you could turn this around, but you have to do it this way.
01:09:12.000We're on everything, Roku, everything now, but we add people.
01:09:15.000I had Lou Dobbs to our lineup in January.
01:09:17.000You're adding and getting the word out is, you know, to me for right now, I think the biggest thing that has changed in our country that's helped is, and I bring this up all the time, and this is our voice.
01:09:30.000I tell people January 7th and 8th of 2021 were two of the most important dates in history.
01:09:36.000Now, I don't know how long you've had this podcast, but I'm going to tell you why.
01:09:39.000On those two days, 1.2 million Americans were deplatformed, whether you were on Vimeo, YouTube,
01:09:45.000Suckabucks Facebook, Twitter, Donald Trump lost his 100 million on Twitter and all this.
01:09:51.000Everybody was silenced that had spoke out about anything to do with the elections or
01:09:56.000for that matter vaccines, anything, anything they spoke out about that they decided to
01:11:41.000And I think he is kind of becoming the obstacle, right?
01:11:45.000Like any company is – they're responsive to the board and the shareholders, but if their CEO is like, no, we're doing fine, it's going to need a change in leadership to embrace any kind of new idea.
01:11:55.000All that matters is that Vivek keeps buying up more and more.
01:12:01.000I think this works out in favor for Vivek.
01:12:03.000When Vivek comes in and says, you guys are failing, you've got massive debt, you're hyper-partisan, you went from a billion dollar valuation down to less than 10% of your valuation, the CEO coming out and saying, nah, we're good, stock price going to go down further.
01:13:11.000And again, like, I think because Vivek had such a meteoric rise during the Republican primaries, I think the question was, well, what's next for him?
01:13:20.000And it is interesting to see someone who has been really successful in the pharmaceutical and biotech industry, you know, involved in drug tech research, kind of pivot to being like, well, I can see that you were successful at one point, and I think I know where you're going wrong.
01:13:35.000And to sort of put this challenge out there to Right.
01:14:26.000It seems like, and there's nothing negative here, it's just showing them.
01:14:29.000It seems like they may be listening to the vape.
01:14:33.000I gotta be honest, I bet other shareholders are probably saying, Jonah, he ain't wrong.
01:14:39.000Look at the meteoric rise of all of these podcasts and how well they're doing.
01:14:45.000There's money here you're not tapping into.
01:14:48.000And so, you know, sooner or later, Peretti's gonna go to his executive editor or editor-in-chief and say, guys, we need more pro-Trump content.
01:14:54.000You'd think that they'd look at Joe Rogan and be like, we could do that.
01:15:20.000I mean, look, famously, at least for me, BuzzFeed was known for its quizzes, right?
01:15:25.000Where it would have these ridiculous quizzes, you know, tell me what your Taco Bell order is and I'll tell you, you know, your dream mansion.
01:16:50.000You know, look, I was telling this to the libertarians.
01:16:54.000The libertarian parties, unfortunately, like a lot of them, they're the people that pay attention.
01:17:00.000And regular people mostly don't pay attention.
01:17:03.000So for people who are hyper-plugged into the news and they want the most esoteric policies, They're going to be finding themselves with the Libertarian Party.
01:17:11.000The realists, who are not revolutionaries who pay attention to the news, are going to find themselves supporting Donald Trump.
01:17:16.000And the people who only listen to MSNBC and other regurgitated corporate garbage are going to be crying because Donald Trump is a fascist and they need Joe Biden to save them.
01:17:26.000That's where we're currently at in this country.
01:17:30.000I think what we see with this Trump trial is the Democrats and the judge basically hoping that their voter base and what they're trying to do is they know we know.
01:17:43.000But they're hoping the people who don't pay attention are just going to go, whoa.
01:17:47.000Well, this is why I think it's too late for them because, like I say, in the last three years, people are getting their news, it's so diversified now.
01:17:56.000They're not getting, like you're saying, you're staring at MSNBC and CNN hypnotized.
01:18:01.000I know this from my own family members.
01:18:03.000It's took a long time for my extended family to know where these guys have come at least to the middle and going because they quit watching those and they're they're doing just social media, but it's even changing there on social media.
01:18:33.000Two friends, and they're in, but they'll sit there, and that has even changed.
01:18:37.000You look at any feed, And you'll have real people here, even on a very left feed, you know, and there'll be this feed, and you'll see all these people there, and you'll have people there that have crossed over the common sense.
01:18:51.000You can see that they used to, and now they're arguing on there, where before they're either sitting back and taking all this attacks, but now they're sticking up, and it's almost, you know, they're overriding the computer bots, you know.
01:19:03.000Yeah, a lot of people, like on Axe, people have complained quite a bit.
01:19:07.000They're like, my engagement is way down!
01:19:08.000And I'm like, cause he get rid of the bots.
01:19:11.000So a lot of the engagement is like a raw number, like percentage of people who viewed your tweet or liked it or not even, it's not even about whether they like it or not or comment.
01:19:21.000The government, corporations, foreign adversaries, they're running bots on X. And X probably loved it because they were like, it inflates our advertiser numbers.
01:19:39.000I used to advertise, you know, everywhere and on that platform.
01:19:43.000Twitter was my worst platform, and I'm going, how can this viewership be this high?
01:19:48.000Because of the electronic or the bots?
01:19:51.000I mean, when my book came out, even though it was banned everywhere, you know, right when all the box stores did it, you know, I pre-printed 3 million copies.
01:23:16.000And now he's just, well, he's at the highest level of your eyes getting open.
01:23:20.000If you take, if you take everyone in these last three years, the 2020 election to me will be the most important election in history for what it's done.
01:23:28.000The last three years has opened people's eyes.
01:23:30.000And I'm talking all the, you know, and there's the highest level you can say, Elon Musk, his eyes got open.
01:23:45.000I'd be going, you know, it brought back my pillows, Twitter, you know, that, that one that got banned.
01:23:50.000That was the first, when he, when, in Twitter, you know, I always tell people this story.
01:23:55.000When I got out of the news, because I kept trying to raise my hand, going, hey, you know, our country, this has happened with our election platforms and all this.
01:24:03.000And when they banned me on Twitter, my personal Twitter, that was done earlier in January.
01:24:07.000Well, all of a sudden the media wouldn't attack me anymore, so it went silent.
01:24:11.000So I'm going, well, what's going to make the news now?
01:24:13.000I know, what if I lose my pillows Twitter?
01:24:15.000So I really, I sat up, it was 12, I'll never forget, it was 12 o'clock midnight.
01:24:19.000I'm sitting there, I go, okay, I'm going to go over, the last post on Twitter was from my, Addiction director and she had wrote this beautiful thing.
01:24:28.000Here's who Mike Lindell really is and all I said That was the last thing that was ever written before my
01:24:32.000lost my personal Twitter So I'm over on Elon or I mean on Jack Dorsey's Twitter and
01:24:37.000I'm over there my pillow gone Jack We know you know when I'm putting comments over there and
01:24:42.000they have all the bots and trolls go Jack kick him kick my pillow
01:24:45.000Off he's using another Twitter. He's been kicked off of Twitter and you know, they're just attacking me and I'm
01:24:49.000going I want to go to Bed so I wanted me to ban it right so I could wake up in
01:24:52.000the morning make new you know All this news and start to you know, tell people about the
01:24:55.000election again. He wouldn't take about three things I go I know I go Jack I go
01:25:01.000I know you were in on this and I am look forward to the day you go to prison
01:25:11.000My pillow loses their Twitter account.
01:25:13.000That was new of our company to lose their Twitter account even though we weren't making a lot of money off because I told you all the bots and trolls don't buy pillows, right?
01:25:20.000You know, so I sacrificed that, but I was able to get the word out in the news, and that was a famous thing on being on Newsmax, where the, you know, they were having me on shows to say, you know, you got canceled, Mike, you got canceled, that's terrible.
01:25:34.000But I couldn't say why I got canceled, you know, because I wanted to secure elections.
01:26:14.000I see I can't unsee what I see or I know what I know They know I was never backing down and they and a lot of them, you know They've been afraid for their jobs probably more so this year because of the attacks have even been up even more But as we were losing stuff around as the walls are getting turned on here goes another box door.
01:26:30.000Here's another box door now did Did my board of directors some of them some of them left right away?
01:26:37.000they just you know, they were not they weren't part of the company, but they were bored and and That one made a public comment.
01:26:43.000I don't believe Mike and I don't have the same thing.
01:27:04.000So when things do happen, like this last getting canceled, where They've debanked us and everything, where it gets scary for them sometimes.
01:27:11.000And I'm just, you know, we go through a lot of prayer.
01:27:13.000We give God the glory, and that's what it's gotten us through, basically.
01:27:16.000And we have a lot of policies at MyPillow where, you know, for example, if someone dies they're close to, we're not like corporate America, we're going, well, if it's your If it's your immediate family, you can take three days off.
01:27:30.000If it's your cousin, you better be to work tomorrow.
01:27:33.000If someone dies for an employee and they're close to them, we don't ask them who it is.
01:27:51.000And then we have another thing too addiction because that's so we'll hire people for second chances and if somebody does get caught or whatever they almost expose themselves I could almost name what the addiction is.
01:28:02.000We'll go get them the help that I want to give them.
01:28:04.000I'll pay for the help and pay their wage while they're getting help because addicts will use the excuse well I got to support my family well good for you special okay you're spending all the money over here I'll put you in I'm going to pay you while you're in treatment while you're getting help and you're going to come out and it's been amazing and nobody's really took advantage of it and they, you know, and it's just so
01:28:24.000they know I have their back and they've had my back and they and you're right it's
01:28:27.000no politics I would say I would say you know a lot of them switched to
01:28:31.000Donald Trump now but this was not political. They were more probably the other
01:28:39.000You know, when I backed him in 2016 after meeting him, everyone's going, in fact, my board, this is an interesting story.
01:28:46.000I met Donald Trump on August 15th of 2016, this famous meeting I went into alone, and we talked about earlier in the show.
01:28:55.000Well, I went back to Minnesota and I was excited to tell the media You know, I was media's darling.
01:29:00.000I was excited to tell him, hey, I met this presidential candidate.
01:29:03.000I wanted to tell him what it was like because I had talked to his employees.
01:29:06.000I went back there and my board stood around, and he was a liberal, he's a liberal Democrat, my one attorney, and he goes, you're going to lose half our company if you do a press release.
01:29:16.000I go, why would I lose half the company?
01:30:25.000But maybe that was training for way down the road here.
01:30:29.000You know, when I spoke at the Rose Garden that time, for up there, when the virus came on, the China virus, and then the president had me speak there, what my pillow was doing to help the country, and I did that, and we were attacked, I was attacked, you'd think I killed someone, 109 interviews in 5 days.
01:30:47.000Do you think that the box stores will ever bring my pillow back?
01:30:50.000There's been a couple that have came on since then, like Ollie's came on, and some stayed with us, like Menard's and Fleet Farm, like the hardware stores, all these hardware stores.
01:31:37.000I know now more what the attacks were.
01:31:40.000And they had to make a decision to their stockholders, to their thing.
01:31:43.000Kohl's, I know, that was when they're number one selling product.
01:31:47.000Their CEO or their whatever, I got a call and, you know, we quit Bad Mouth and Kohl's, you know, this was during the time I go, you guys are canceling us.
01:31:55.000I said, so I gave him a special one day all by himself and said, Coles canceled us.
01:31:59.000You know, I was spreading out, but knowing what I know now, would I take him back if they did?
01:32:20.000I didn't realize Menards is the third largest home improvement in the country.
01:32:25.000They're a great family-owned company, and they made decisions based on, I knew them, you know, hey, we're not going to fall for this social media, these attacks, and they stuck with it.
01:32:35.000Fleet Farm was another one, and it'd be surprising.
01:32:51.000And as the price came down, as we got better at manufacturing, my patented foam got better, we could bring the price down.
01:32:57.000Then it went down to $49.98, and it was the number one buy-through at $49.98.
01:33:01.000Their history in everything, QVC everywhere.
01:33:05.000Then when it dropped down to $39.98, now that was the drop.
01:33:08.000That and a two-pack would have been $29.98 for, you know, $59 for two.
01:33:13.000When that drop would have been made, that was right when they canceled.
01:33:17.000It would have been the other stores that stayed with us, they couldn't keep them.
01:33:20.000I mean, there were walls of them at Menards and Fleet Farm.
01:33:23.000So these box stores, they sacrificed The fear of public opinion, even though the public turned on them.
01:33:31.000After this happened, up and down the western seaboard, like Bed, Bath & Beyond, people were filling up grocery carts in Bed, Bath & Beyond, going to the front and then saying, where's my pillows?
01:33:41.000They say, we don't have them, and leaving their carts there.
01:33:46.000And you know, Bed Bath & Beyond is not here anymore.
01:33:48.000I feel bad they made bad decisions, and sitting like, you know, Kohl's and all these, but they sacrificed money.
01:33:55.000We were their number one selling product, and Walmart, they've got 10,000 products overseas that they make in China.
01:34:01.000I got a whole different thing with Walmart, a beef with them, where they attack entrepreneurs and stuff, where you invent a product and it shows up in Walmart, or there it is on Amazon, and you can't fight that.
01:34:12.000That's why I created mystore.com, Where I give these guys a safe haven, I bring the geese to the pond, so to speak.
01:34:18.000So I bring the people to that outlet, and then they can buy their products for all these entrepreneurs and made-in-the-USA stuff.
01:34:26.000But it's a long answer to your question.
01:35:39.000I borrowed millions and millions of dollars, put myself in debt, and I will keep doing it until we save our country and get our American—you know, God's got me doing—God gave me this platform, and I'm doing—I pray about what I'm doing.
01:37:41.000And one guy had to say, hey, could you autograph my slippers?
01:37:45.000I mean, three hours later, it's so weird!
01:37:48.000This is an interesting sales tactic to say, we'll go ahead and cut your product in half and see how good it is, and then order another pair.
01:38:05.000Well, so I was saying, I think I was saying this before the show, that We moved to the new studio, and so we needed towels, I needed a new pair of slippers, we needed pillows, of course, and so Allison was thinking, like, should we go to Walmart or something, and I was like, no, no, no, no, my pillow's got that thing now, it's like 25 bucks for everything, and she was like, oh, okay, and then she just bought a ton of stuff.
01:39:03.000If anyone would have told me that back when I invented it, you know, I was going for years and years going show to show, selling one pillow at a time, but 83 million.
01:39:23.000But I wanted it bigger, and when I got here, I was like, wow, we need more pillows.
01:39:28.000But, you know, you got your guys hooked us up, because we called, we talked with Jack, and then we talked to your guys, and we were like, not only do we need the pillows, we need them fluffed.
01:39:36.000And they said, we'll get it done for you.
01:40:06.000People go, how can you sell stuff that low?
01:40:08.000When we don't have a middleman anymore, the box stores, they take 50 to 55 points if everybody knows out there.
01:40:14.000So if, you know, if they were paying 25, that's why you were paying 50 in the box stores, right?
01:40:19.000And so this loss, I choose my pillow, I tell people all the time, that's their loss.
01:40:23.000Now you think if any one of them wanted to come back and say, you know, have a draw, box stores look for advertising, they look for advertising on TV, and then people will come into any infomercials or commercials, then they come into the box stores.
01:40:37.000Well, if you take out that, you know, they're all buying direct now.
01:40:40.000How long did it take you to, I mean, you started, you made a pillow, you were traveling around, and then how did you get from there to Yeah, the real quick story in 2004.
01:40:51.000Now remember, I quit crack cocaine in 2009, January 16, 2009.
01:40:55.000And I had sold my bars, and my bars, I had not a good place for an attic.
01:41:36.000I'm going to make one you could wash and dry.
01:41:38.000I'm going to make one that'll last, 10-year warranty and all that.
01:41:40.000So I was so stubborn to get it exactly what I wanted to solve everybody's problem.
01:41:44.000Well, then when I had it, it's funny, I went into a bad bathroom beyond in Minnesota, and I walked in there, and I was probably not on drugs that day, I can't say for sure, but I walked in there and I go, I got this pillow.
01:43:18.000And anyway, I get this spot and I put in there and I put a table up so that people couldn't get in my space, you know, because I could talk to them better.
01:43:26.000And I put a bold statement up, guaranteed the most comfortable pillow you're on.
01:44:12.000So we go to film this in August of 2011, and I wanted a real audience.
01:44:20.000Remember, I couldn't talk in front of people.
01:44:22.000This was kind of crazy that I wanted this audience, but I had it in my head, and I wanted to do it like I did it at the shows.
01:44:27.000Well, we brought in, it was me and this gal that sold pillows, too, and they brought in this producer from Hollywood, and he texts the other guy.
01:46:18.000I go, Tom, do you know the ATMs don't go to the seven digit?
01:46:21.000He goes, no, I didn't know that, Mike.
01:46:22.000I'm going, it was crazy, all this money.
01:46:26.000But I woke up in May that year, and we were $6 million in debt, and I was in tears going, God, what did I do wrong?
01:46:34.000And I started digging in over the next two years to dig out of that with no bank or anything.
01:46:39.000I built everything with my hands and from the ground up.
01:46:41.000Everything we owned, we built and just kept making inventory.
01:46:44.000Well to dig out I learned so much from 2012 there was betrayal I made handshake deals Contracts didn't matter which one I made people took advantage and then I brought it on I wanted to do it my way where everything is tracked What if I only had to live on that newspaper ad or that one podcast or that one show?
01:47:03.000I took it in and we did everything ourselves and I Basically, micromanage everything and macromanage it.
01:47:39.000And I look at the 2020 election like that.
01:47:42.000If the 2020 election hadn't happened, so much has been revealed now, whether it's bad.
01:47:48.000We're going to look back, and I always say, you know, this is on God's time, we're going to look back and say, everything had to happen, even the bad.
01:47:56.000And people, like you say, it's opening people's eyes, like we've talked about from You know, from Elon Musk on down, it's at least opened people's eyes to this bucket of common sense.
01:49:09.000There's something really strange that he agreed to that.
01:49:12.000There's something hidden there we don't know yet.
01:49:15.000Let's go, Nathan Sherwood says, went home to visit over the weekend and saw flyers for the Raising of the Pride flag at City Hall run by Pride of Binghamton, whose logo is a flaming brick with a Pride flag painted on it.
01:50:27.000The problem, what the problem was, there was only one solution, and we both thought of that solution.
01:50:32.000But usually it's been, you know, it's been entrepreneur, where my sister flooded a third-story building of an apartment complex back in the early 80s, so I became a carpet cleaner, you know, and this waterbed went everywhere.
01:50:47.000Laundry room said sleep is the most important thing you can do for yourself.
01:50:51.000And I just want to stress that, um, when it comes to, uh, you know, health and exercise and all that sleep, one of the most important things you need deep sleep.
01:51:01.000So people will be thinking like I'm eating healthy, I'm exercising, but for some reason, are you, are you sleeping?
01:51:07.000Cause a lot of people don't get sleep and then wonder why it is their body's not getting right.
01:51:11.000Even though they're following the diet and exercise properly, but something's still wrong.
01:51:17.000One of the things with that adjustability of my pillow, keeping your cervical nerves straight at night, where people, if you bend them, it's like bending a water hose, and you're flip-flopping all night, and you're breaking your sleep cycles of REM Delta sleep.
01:51:31.000It's funny, because back when I did my first commercials, someone put in there, sleep expert, and in California, you've got to go to four years of college to be a sleep expert, so I got sued for a million dollars.
01:52:36.000One of the things you won't see me selling is all these decorative pillows that you see in hotels where you take your arm and throw them on the floor.
01:53:14.000I mean, it would be like the worst super chat in the world if I was like, I'm gonna just hire someone to delete all of the chats I don't agree with.
01:53:19.000So it's like, well, you know, thank you Hydro for your opinions and your money.
01:53:29.000Nur Elayes says, I believe it was a literal miracle.
01:53:34.000When Frank's speech effectively distributed absolute proof despite the consistent cyber attacks Mr. Lindell's site withstood, it streamed smooth as silk and no communist was able to stop it.
01:53:44.000What happened that week was beyond man's power.
01:53:47.000When we did the Cyber Symposium, when I did the movie Absolute Proof on February 5th of 2021, it was taken down everywhere.
01:53:55.000In fact, Alan Duke, the Facebook fact checker, Alan and I have a weird relationship, but Alan put a cover of it saying it contains nudity and porn.
01:54:04.000He's supposed to be the Facebook fact checker, right?
01:54:06.000So they're putting all these things up then.
01:54:08.000Well, we were canceled everywhere there on February 5th, but 200, it was close to 300 million people worldwide seen that in four days, because the public was longing to see, to hear some positive things.
01:54:21.000And then the Cyber Symposium, he might be talking about that, the event I had in South Dakota in the summer of 21, that was too, it was such an attack.
01:54:56.000ObamaPhoneProMax5G says, Tim, how do you think that Trump will save the economy?
01:55:02.000Inflation is completely out of control and many economists I've been following on YouTube are predicting something on the level of the Great Depression is coming.
01:55:58.000It actually went up when I spoke at the Rose Garden in the spring of 2020, because it got worldwide attention all of a sudden, you know, because everyone was attacking, how dare you talk about reading the Bible from the podium!
01:56:15.000Donald Trump is not gonna come in and save us.
01:56:21.000It's just that it's better than Biden.
01:56:25.000Donald Trump is not gonna come in and save us.
01:56:27.000He's just not going to keep setting us on fire like Joe Biden is.
01:56:31.000I would love, I hope, I mean that's the reason that I asked Cash about his plan for unfunded liabilities and stuff.
01:56:37.000Our biggest problem, I say it over and over, our biggest problem facing the country is unfunded liabilities, mandatory spending, the things that the government has to spend, the discretionary spending, military spending, all the things, even as much as I talk about getting rid of entire bureaucracies and getting rid of cabinet level bureaucracies and stuff like that, that's nothing When it comes to saving money compared to what is actually needed to happen to stop the massive problem with our unfunded liability.
01:57:06.000So Donald Trump, if he doesn't have a great plan, at the very least, if you can get a friendly business environment, Then you can have your economy start growing again and at least it can moderate how fast the problem compounds because, again, this is our problem compounding interest, but the more productive your economy is, you can stave it off and possibly could come up with a solution.
01:57:29.000If not, we're going to be looking at serious austerity in the United States and America is not ready for that.
01:57:35.000If you think the problems that we have now With the economy the way they are, all the other social problems, with the economy the way that it is, they all get magnified, you know, times ten or a hundred or a thousand when you throw on top of an economic crisis.
01:57:51.000All of the problems that, like all the stuff you hear about before World War II in Germany, there was all these bad things going on, including a massive economic problem.
01:58:00.000Massive economic problems just amplify all of your social problems.
01:58:05.000So this is a big thing that we have to worry about.
02:01:30.000I've got it all laid out there, what we're doing to secure our elections, and everybody, I don't care who you are, you're going to have some interest to go there.
02:01:38.000Another thing I want to say, if you're If you're married, if you know someone that you think is incorrigible, or he's an addict and there's no hope, I disagree.
02:01:50.000And one of the things, if you tell your addict, if you tell them, most of them know me, and most of them know I was an ex-addict, so they're gonna trust, hey, he might know what he's talking about.
02:02:15.000And I want to tell everyone, because of the audience out there, because the public's got behind us, just over the last three weeks, we've hired 30 new employees.
02:02:25.000And our manufacturing went up 60% over the last month.
02:02:30.000The last five days were our busiest days of the year.
02:02:33.000And usually this time of year is one of our slowest, so we're really on the upswing, and it's because of everybody out there.
02:02:40.000And now we got the great new promo code, Tim, so I expect a second stock market going straight up.