Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 07, 2024


Trump Verdict MAY MISTRIAL, Alleged Juror Family PREDICTED VERDICT w-Christina Urso | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 2 minutes

Words per Minute

200.62296

Word Count

24,476

Sentence Count

1,884

Misogynist Sentences

66

Hate Speech Sentences

64


Summary

A judge in Trump s hush money case raises questions about social media posts claiming to preview jury verdicts. Plus, a bunch of weird stuff, including a post from a family member of one of the jurors, and a possible conspiracy theory about MAGA crazies.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Bye.
00:00:17.000 A Facebook post has emerged where someone claims that they are family members with one of the jurors and they predicted the outcome before it happened.
00:00:25.000 This seems like a silly, random, nonsensical Facebook post that matters to no one.
00:00:31.000 But apparently the judge thinks it may be real, submitted a letter to both parties in the Trump trial—it's over already—showing this message, removing the MAGA crazies quote from it.
00:00:43.000 We'll read the full quote for you.
00:00:44.000 And now many people are speculating that the judge, with insider information on the jurors, may actually believe this is real.
00:00:51.000 Otherwise, why would they submit this letter to both parties?
00:00:56.000 There's a million and one reasons why this may be the case.
00:00:59.000 I have to wonder what the is going on.
00:01:01.000 Some are suggesting that Democrats realized Trump's improving in the polls and making tons of money, so they're trying to undo this and walk it back.
00:01:08.000 Maybe or maybe they're trying to trigger a mistrial to force Trump once again back to New York for another multi-week long trial to jam him up so he can't campaign.
00:01:20.000 We'll see.
00:01:20.000 We'll see.
00:01:21.000 It seems very odd because the Facebook post could very well just be fake.
00:01:25.000 But, uh, I don't know.
00:01:26.000 People are giving their reasons, so we'll talk about that.
00:01:28.000 Plus, we've got a bunch of weird stuff.
00:01:30.000 I mean, the Hunter Biden prosecution has rested.
00:01:33.000 We've got left-wing activists calling for the extermination of Republicans in response to Hunter Biden being criminally charged for buying a gun while being a crackhead.
00:01:40.000 It's the weirdest thing.
00:01:41.000 And then you've got NATO preparing for a full-scale invasion of Russia.
00:01:45.000 So, okay.
00:01:45.000 You know?
00:01:46.000 That's not fun.
00:01:48.000 But we'll see how it plays out.
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00:02:25.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Christina Urso.
00:02:29.000 Thank you.
00:02:30.000 I'm an independent journalist, content creator.
00:02:30.000 I'm Christina.
00:02:33.000 I go by Radix Verum on YouTube.
00:02:36.000 I am at NotRadix on Twitter.
00:02:38.000 I'm currently directing and producing my first documentary, Kidnap and Kill, an FBI terror plot on the Michigan Whitmer Fednapping hoax.
00:02:47.000 You can watch the trailer, support the film, and learn more about it at knkfilm.com.
00:02:52.000 Awesome.
00:02:53.000 Christina, I'm looking forward to hearing a little bit more about that.
00:02:55.000 Whitmer Case, I'm a journalist here at Timcast News, CNR News, a lot of Yahoo.
00:03:00.000 Hannah Clare, what's up?
00:03:01.000 Hey, I'm Hannah Clare Brimlow.
00:03:02.000 I'm back.
00:03:03.000 I'm also a journalist with SCNR News.
00:03:05.000 That's Scanner News.
00:03:06.000 Follow all of our work at Timcast News.
00:03:08.000 I think a lot's going to have some cool videos going up tomorrow.
00:03:11.000 Hi, Serge.
00:03:12.000 Let's get into it.
00:03:12.000 Hey, guys.
00:03:14.000 Your camera's all weird, though.
00:03:15.000 Yeah, I just used the wide shot.
00:03:17.000 Oh, okay.
00:03:17.000 Well, there you go.
00:03:18.000 All right, everybody, here's the story from NBC News.
00:03:21.000 It's a weird one.
00:03:22.000 Judge in Trump's hush money case raises questions about social media posts claiming to preview jury verdict.
00:03:30.000 Judge Juan Marchand asked prosecutors and Trump's defense team about a Facebook post that appeared to preview, to preview?
00:03:36.000 You mean predict, NBC News?
00:03:37.000 What are you doing?
00:03:39.000 Today, the court... Actually, let me just see if I can pull up the letter itself.
00:03:42.000 This is from Brianna Morello.
00:03:44.000 She has the actual letter.
00:03:46.000 Dear Counsel, Today the Court became aware of a comment that was posted on the Unified Court System's public Facebook page and which I now bring to your attention.
00:03:53.000 In the comment, the user Michael Anderson states, My cousin is a juror and says Trump is getting convicted.
00:03:59.000 Thank you folks for all your hard work.
00:04:01.000 The comment, now labeled as one week old, responded to routine UCS notice posted May 29th regarding oral arguments in the 4th Department of the Appellate Division unrelated to this proceeding.
00:04:11.000 The posting entitled, The Appellate Division, 4th Department, will hear oral arguments this morning at 10, and the comment are both viewable, and then here's the link.
00:04:20.000 And this is signed by Judge Juan Mershon.
00:04:22.000 It's weird that we're getting this.
00:04:26.000 Now, Mario Nawfal has a great post.
00:04:30.000 He says, Judge Mershon edited the Facebook post copy, which is weird.
00:04:34.000 He did.
00:04:36.000 Here's the actual post.
00:04:38.000 Michael Anderson said, Thank you for all your hard against... This is an intentional error.
00:04:46.000 I'm reading verbatim.
00:04:48.000 Thank you for all your hard against the MAGA crazies.
00:04:52.000 My cousin is a juror on Trump's criminal case, and they're going to convict him tomorrow, according to her.
00:04:57.000 Thank you, New York courts.
00:05:00.000 Then responded, Now we are married.
00:05:02.000 One person that lopsided his free speech and said, Well, you just implicated your cousin in a crime if what
00:05:07.000 you say is true.
00:05:08.000 It is against the law for a juror to discuss the case before it is ended.
00:05:11.000 Thank you for shedding light on your cousin's actions.
00:05:14.000 I don't know if this post is real.
00:05:16.000 Some random person we don't know posted some stupid Facebook post.
00:05:20.000 Why is the judge highlighting this and sending the letter to both parties?
00:05:25.000 It only would benefit Trump.
00:05:28.000 If this is a legitimate legal proceeding, then Trump's lawyers can now argue for a mistrial, I guess.
00:05:34.000 I see this, I'd crumple it up, I'd throw it in the garbage.
00:05:36.000 I'd say, people post stupid things on the internet all the time, what do I care?
00:05:39.000 Some are suggesting Because the judge knows who the jurors are, that the judge has been able to verify that this person is in fact in some way related to one of the jurors and thus there's legitimate grounds for a mistrial.
00:05:51.000 I don't know that's true, but the question then is why did the judge send this letter?
00:05:56.000 There's something really funny about all of this being disrupted by someone's, like, semi-boomer-y relative on Facebook making a comment.
00:06:05.000 I think he has to alert the jury of it to keep the idea that this is a legitimate and trustworthy court up, you know?
00:06:13.000 The internet sleuths are never going to let it go.
00:06:16.000 It's already dated a week old.
00:06:17.000 So if he doesn't—if Marshawn doesn't get out in front of it, it's going to look like they are actively suppressing something that could affect the trial.
00:06:26.000 But again, like, watch out for your relatives on Facebook, man.
00:06:28.000 They could bring down everything.
00:06:30.000 I'm no lawyer or legal expert, but I do think it's significant that the judge was bringing this up and thought to mention it at all.
00:06:37.000 I'm hoping it's an elaborate troll, though, because that would be the funniest.
00:06:40.000 Elaborate?
00:06:41.000 I mean, elaborate enough to get on the news and have to have a judge.
00:06:44.000 Or are there multiple comments?
00:06:45.000 Because even the emojis in the comment from- in the copy that Mershon sent out in the letter look different than the ones that are used in the screenshot we have.
00:06:53.000 Is this like one guy's relative who's like commenting on all of these things?
00:06:57.000 According to an article by Fox 5, it says the profile for Michael Anderson has little publicly available information, but the user identifies himself as a trans, abled, and professional s-poster.
00:07:09.000 Yeah, so there you go.
00:07:10.000 Right.
00:07:11.000 So why is the judge entertaining this?
00:07:12.000 Which makes it weird, though, because typically they would investigate this stuff anyways before it would ever make it out to the news.
00:07:19.000 Like, they would have already investigated this and looked into it.
00:07:23.000 This is weird.
00:07:24.000 I don't know.
00:07:25.000 I don't know what it means.
00:07:27.000 So what NBC News is saying, when a defendant who has been convicted by a jury but has not yet been sentenced learns of alleged jury misconduct, he can move to set aside the verdict under New York criminal procedure law.
00:07:37.000 If a defendant can prove that jury misconduct may have affected a substantial right of the defendant, the remedy is a new trial.
00:07:42.000 That's bad for Trump.
00:07:44.000 A new trial means that he once again will not be able to campaign and will be stuck in New York.
00:07:49.000 They'd lock him down for another six weeks.
00:07:52.000 Unless Trump's thinking like, I don't know, we get another guilty verdict, we're gonna make another $400 million.
00:07:57.000 I was gonna say, this conviction hasn't really hurt Trump, at least so far, the way that I think they wanted it to.
00:08:03.000 It's not really affecting his His positions with independence.
00:08:06.000 It's not discouraging people.
00:08:07.000 It's obviously been a huge fundraising platform for him.
00:08:11.000 I guess the biggest issue is like if they have to go to retrial, what happens, you know, obviously with sentencing, being July 11th right before the RNC.
00:08:17.000 That is sort of the big hang up for me right now in terms of how does this affect Trump?
00:08:22.000 That seems to be where it could snare him the most.
00:08:24.000 But, you know, if you can make a billion dollars off of a conviction.
00:08:30.000 Politically speaking, do you guys think it was better or worse for him to be found guilty?
00:08:34.000 Like, was he hoping for the jury to find him guilty so he'd be able to advertise and kind of have a rally around the flag effect?
00:08:41.000 Not guilty is better.
00:08:42.000 Not guilty is better.
00:08:43.000 Not guilty is better because then he comes out and says they won't stop.
00:08:46.000 But they got their guilty verdict because they're in a Democrat jurisdiction where the jurors are like, I ain't gonna be the one to stick my neck out.
00:08:51.000 And now let me flip it a little bit.
00:08:52.000 What do you think the Joe Biden administration is hoping for when it comes to this Hunter Biden case?
00:08:57.000 Probably not guilty.
00:08:58.000 Because if it comes out as not guilty, then it may look like some impropriety with the Joe Biden administration, like weighing the scale one way or another, not being able to get a fair trial in his favor in Delaware.
00:09:11.000 Because it's obvious.
00:09:13.000 The Hunter Biden charges are obvious with the gun charge and the tax evasion, as I understand, are like open and shut cases.
00:09:18.000 So if he's able to get away with them... And he was prepared to plead guilty when he had a plea deal.
00:09:22.000 Exactly.
00:09:22.000 But now he's like, just kidding, I'm not guilty.
00:09:25.000 So then it would look biased in that way?
00:09:30.000 I don't really know.
00:09:31.000 I mean, he's clearly a character.
00:09:35.000 I don't know one way or the other if they thought it would look better for him to be acquitted because then it just looks like it's not a fair system.
00:09:43.000 I think that everybody looking at Hunter Biden knows what he did.
00:09:47.000 Uh, and I think that they want to see him face the same kind of justice everybody else would have to face.
00:09:53.000 So I think it looks better for Biden if that happens.
00:09:56.000 And then he says, oh, look, the system works.
00:09:58.000 There's no favoritism.
00:09:59.000 Do you think that there's a certain level of cynicism with the American justice system?
00:09:59.000 Right.
00:10:04.000 I mean, you know, because you have this documentary coming out about the Whitmer case.
00:10:07.000 I think there are there's a certain level of people saying, You can't trust a jury anywhere or a judge anywhere because there's so much political bias in everything we do these days.
00:10:15.000 Yeah, I think that's merited.
00:10:17.000 Yeah.
00:10:18.000 I think there's some saying, like, a good prosecutor could indict a rock or something.
00:10:21.000 So, like, with all this evidence against Hunter, it would look like the scales were being tipped in one favor if he weren't found.
00:10:28.000 I think that at this point, at least half the country knows that the legal system is corrupt.
00:10:36.000 Yeah, I think that- Like terribly so.
00:10:38.000 I don't know that it can be fixed.
00:10:40.000 Well, and I think that's sort of what Trump's campaign is capitalizing off of right now.
00:10:45.000 People feel like they knew the system was not good, now they feel like they have this confirmation, and actually supporting Trump, donating to him, doing whatever, is the only way they can take action and sort of fight back.
00:10:56.000 That's a really powerful sentiment to have at your disposal.
00:10:59.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:11:01.000 I am confused as to why the judge sent this letter over what is an obvious troll post.
00:11:07.000 See how the emojis are different?
00:11:08.000 Maybe he's trying to cover his basis, like, just in case.
00:11:12.000 And I think there must be multiple of these.
00:11:14.000 That's why we have this one here, but then the other one looks different.
00:11:17.000 That's my theory, at least.
00:11:19.000 It would be good if it were a troll.
00:11:20.000 There are no prayer hands in that one.
00:11:21.000 There's only the celebration emoji.
00:11:24.000 Yeah, it's the same username, though.
00:11:26.000 The image is different.
00:11:28.000 Well, I think they could get to the bottom of this relatively quickly.
00:11:31.000 I guess actually they'd have to get a search warrant or something, but they could find the information if they were to digitally have communicated this.
00:11:38.000 Yeah, you just depose the person who wrote it.
00:11:40.000 Yeah, but then they gotta subpoena Facebook.
00:11:43.000 I think Facebook's cooperating.
00:11:45.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:11:46.000 They're cooperating.
00:11:47.000 I know in the Whitmer case they were cooperating.
00:11:49.000 Oh, they volunteered in the Whitmer case.
00:11:50.000 So, does this delay sentencing then?
00:11:52.000 Like, does this drag out the process in between, or does he still get sentenced on July 11th?
00:11:57.000 No, I don't think that would change.
00:11:58.000 I don't think it changes things, but it does seem like they're trying to goad Trump into filing something based on this.
00:12:03.000 Very weird.
00:12:04.000 Yeah.
00:12:04.000 That could also be the whole point of it.
00:12:07.000 Ah, Facebook.
00:12:08.000 I'm telling you, Facebook and your relatives.
00:12:10.000 Dangerous.
00:12:11.000 Yeah, but this is an obvious troll post.
00:12:14.000 Judge Mershawn is just not... I mean, I think it's fair to say Judge Mershawn is suffering from developmental disabilities.
00:12:20.000 I think that's an honest assessment by anybody who can read or see with their eyes.
00:12:25.000 And maybe this is just another example of him going on Facebook and going, oh, oh.
00:12:33.000 And then sending this letter being like, look.
00:12:36.000 And then it's like, oh, Judge Mershawn, that is just some random guy making a joke.
00:12:40.000 Or some law clerks just quickly fumbling this together, super concerned.
00:12:44.000 He doesn't even look at it, think twice, signs off on it.
00:12:47.000 I wonder, could there be any legal consequences to a troll post of this?
00:12:51.000 This magnitude?
00:12:51.000 No.
00:12:52.000 Just goofing off and posting a joke?
00:12:55.000 He said the person claimed they married their cousin.
00:12:58.000 No, when I were married, it's like, okay.
00:13:01.000 When I first saw this, I was like, why is everyone sharing this?
00:13:04.000 Like, what is going on?
00:13:05.000 And then people were saying that because the judge had this letter, they believe that it is at least some circumstantial evidence the judge has looked into it a little bit.
00:13:16.000 Argument being, one of the jurors' names might be like Rick Anderson or like Sarah Anderson.
00:13:22.000 And so then getting someone of the same name and like, hey, it's my cousin.
00:13:25.000 And she said, you know, the judge is like, uh, I think the letter is to protect himself.
00:13:30.000 I think the judge is sending out the letter to say, like, look, we're aware of these things.
00:13:33.000 You're gone.
00:13:33.000 There's no bias.
00:13:34.000 We're telling everyone all this stuff.
00:13:36.000 I don't know that it necessarily says that it's actually credible.
00:13:39.000 But again, that would mean that the judge is aware of jury impropriety and this may be indicative of it or evidence to that.
00:13:44.000 So he's trying to protect himself.
00:13:46.000 Maybe or just that, like, he knows that there could be a conclusion drawn by the public and he wants to say, like, oh, I was proactive about alerting both sides.
00:13:53.000 They're not even supposed to have the appearance of impropriety.
00:13:57.000 Yeah.
00:13:59.000 I always wonder if Mershawn is going to retire from the bench.
00:14:03.000 What do you do after this?
00:14:04.000 Do you hang out or what do you do?
00:14:06.000 Because it just seems like any conservative leaning person who's brought to his courtroom on any charge is now going to be able to be like, but we believe that there's bias in this courtroom.
00:14:15.000 Democrats are giving this guy a promotion.
00:14:17.000 To where?
00:14:18.000 Where does he go?
00:14:20.000 Maybe he could take a spot somewhere in the administration.
00:14:20.000 Who knows?
00:14:23.000 Gotta call Kathy Hochul and be like, what's your plan for Michelle?
00:14:25.000 Maybe a Supreme Court justice position to reward him for what Democrats would view as his patriotism.
00:14:30.000 Because you know this is a Democrat superhero now, this judge.
00:14:33.000 I just think he would retire and get a really cushy position at some university.
00:14:33.000 Oh yeah.
00:14:37.000 Some attorney general or something?
00:14:39.000 Hey, you never know.
00:14:39.000 I don't know about AG.
00:14:40.000 But let's jump to this story from AP.
00:14:42.000 Let's move to the Hunter Biden trial.
00:14:43.000 We have this from AP.
00:14:44.000 Hunter Biden's daughter Naomi testifies about her father and his federal gun trial ending first week.
00:14:49.000 I believe the prosecution has rested as well, right?
00:14:51.000 Yeah, they rested this afternoon, and she was the second witness they called.
00:14:55.000 So the prosecution called one of the clerks from the gun shop where Hunter Biden bought his gun to testify, saying, like, no, the form was clear.
00:15:04.000 The other one is saying, no, there's a reason why it's not.
00:15:06.000 Naomi's testimony I actually find really sad.
00:15:09.000 So she's testifying about this time period in 2018 where she went to visit her dad.
00:15:14.000 She brought her now husband then boyfriend with her.
00:15:17.000 They were like maybe moving some of his stuff using his truck and and she basically is saying like I didn't see any drug paraphernalia.
00:15:22.000 I was really proud of him for like dealing with his addiction and stuff like that. And there's
00:15:25.000 something about it to me that is just like, man, I'm so sorry. Like, I don't think the Biden
00:15:29.000 family is, I think obviously there's a lot of skeletons in their closet and stuff like that. But there's
00:15:33.000 a moment where like your daughter is having to come to your defense and be like, no, he was
00:15:35.000 trying really hard. And then you know that he's like, actually sleeping with like your aunt who just
00:15:40.000 lost her husband. He's wrecking that family. He's going to go on addiction again. Like he's just
00:15:44.000 such a chaotic person. It makes me sad for a lot of kids in America who grow up with parents who
00:15:49.000 are just completely consumed by addiction. Free Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden should not be
00:15:54.000 criminally charged over this.
00:15:57.000 And he should be criminally charged and investigated over Burisma and things of that nature.
00:16:01.000 But it was one of our Super Chatters last night who made the point that the national instant background check system requires self-incrimination.
00:16:09.000 It's a violation of the Fifth Amendment.
00:16:11.000 And the only reason Hunter Biden is being charged is because he refused to self-incriminate.
00:16:16.000 I agree.
00:16:17.000 Well, and I really wanted to hear more from sort of the 2A gun rights community on this case, because again, it does seem like something they would be like, except for the fact that his last name is Biden, we don't think you're being treated fairly.
00:16:29.000 You know, this is such a messy trial.
00:16:31.000 It's interesting hearing Abbey Lowell, his defense attorney, one of his arguments is
00:16:36.000 like well he did not think of himself as an addict and the form is phrased in present
00:16:42.000 tense because Hunter Biden had just completed this 11 days.
00:16:45.000 Yeah, no, but they had evidence that he did crack like that day or something.
00:16:48.000 Oh yeah, and the texts say he was like searching for drugs, but the argument is like he was
00:16:51.000 sober, bought the gun, then did some more crack, relapsed.
00:16:54.000 Which is also sort of like that's your best defense?
00:16:57.000 Like, during opening statements, they have—sorry guys, I spent a lot of time reading about this this week—they have, you know, the prosecutors played clips from his autobiography, which he narrated describing his life in drug addiction, and lol, his defense attorney was like, Because the book came out in 2021.
00:17:16.000 His mindset at that state is not the same as his mindset in 2018.
00:17:21.000 So he really didn't think of himself as an addict.
00:17:23.000 And so when they asked him on this forum, it's a very weird defense.
00:17:28.000 On principle, I kind of do agree that he shouldn't be charged.
00:17:32.000 But if that is what the laws on the book show, then it's what has to go forward.
00:17:37.000 Because then the double standard wouldn't be held if the shoe was on the other side.
00:17:40.000 Well, I mean, peacetime Tim says you shouldn't charge him, but wartime Tim says I am for this and I think you should get life in prison.
00:17:49.000 I think it was a similar strategy with how the Democrats were with the Stormy Daniel case against Trump.
00:17:55.000 It was really a PR battle more than I think what it had to do with the actual charges.
00:17:59.000 This case is the same way.
00:18:00.000 It's a PR and political issue for the Bidens and how they're doing this and how some of these details are being brought up.
00:18:07.000 There were complicated dynamics on display.
00:18:09.000 Haley Biden, who is married to Beau Biden, the president's elder son, was summoned by the prosecution to relive a portion of her life where she called it a terrible experience.
00:18:17.000 She bonded with Hunter Biden over the tragedy of her husband's death in 2015.
00:18:21.000 Yeah, and she says that he got him hooked on crack cocaine.
00:18:23.000 She eventually got him hooked on crack.
00:18:25.000 He got her hooked on crack cocaine.
00:18:26.000 Yeah, so again, these are the details that they're dredging up that really is the issue for Biden.
00:18:33.000 One other big picture thing here is this is in Wilmington, Delaware, where the Bidens are extremely popular.
00:18:38.000 Joe Biden's been elected to Senate there like a dozen times or something.
00:18:42.000 So the Bidens are extremely popular there.
00:18:44.000 Jill Biden's coming to the courthouse there.
00:18:46.000 It's tough to see how a fair trial would be given there, given the community's biases towards the Bidens, because the Bidens are a big name in Well, in Delaware.
00:18:57.000 And Biden has said multiple times, but he just reaffirmed this during an interview when he was in Normandy, saying, you know, it's really simple.
00:19:05.000 He just responded with the word yes, but he was asked, you know, would you pardon Hunter?
00:19:08.000 Or is there no possibility that you would pardon Hunter if he were convicted?
00:19:15.000 he said yes, like I won't pardon him.
00:19:17.000 And then he's asked, you know, will you respect the outcome of the jury?
00:19:20.000 Obviously, this is kind of a dig at Trump from the ABC News reporter, but Biden says
00:19:23.000 yes.
00:19:24.000 And so there's this there's a cynical part of me that's like he's saying yes because
00:19:28.000 he knows Hunter's not going to get convicted.
00:19:30.000 But there's also part of me that is like, well, you've made this big deal out of how
00:19:34.000 you're not allowed to say things are unfair and this, that and the other.
00:19:37.000 So you have to say yes.
00:19:39.000 You're going to respect the system.
00:19:41.000 Apparently Biden's in contact with Hunter every day.
00:19:43.000 They talk on the phone, this, that, and the other.
00:19:44.000 You know, he put out one statement saying, I won't comment on a federal prosecutor, but I am proud of the man my son is.
00:19:49.000 In Wilmington, Delaware.
00:19:51.000 I'm not surprised Biden's proud of that.
00:19:53.000 In 2020, Biden got nearly 27,000 votes and Trump only got around 3,500.
00:20:00.000 So just trying to understand where this is, a jury of Biden's peers.
00:20:04.000 How are Delaware and Rhode Island states at this point, you know what I mean?
00:20:08.000 I had read this article or read this data from, you know, after the census every 10 years, they put out a thing being like, here's the ways that we have errors.
00:20:08.000 I was barely hanging out.
00:20:16.000 And I think Rhode Island was supposed to lose a congressional seat, so they only have like one, but there was an error in the population, so they got to keep two or something like that.
00:20:23.000 It was really weird.
00:20:25.000 The trial of Hunter Biden, again, I don't feel like I know enough about gun law to be able to comment.
00:20:31.000 It does seem like the kind of thing that people who are very pro-gun rights would be saying, this is unfair.
00:20:37.000 And I think some of the questions that people are raising, while weird and sort of nitpicky, kind of makes sense.
00:20:42.000 On the other hand, Hunter Biden openly admitted to being an addict.
00:20:46.000 This has been a big part of his narrative journey.
00:20:50.000 He's talked about it in his autobiography.
00:20:52.000 And I don't know that the Biden family has ever really addressed this issue in a way that is sympathetic enough to the American people.
00:21:01.000 I was honestly almost surprised that this prosecutor, you know, if we believe that Biden's pulling all the strings of the government, which I think it's mostly his staff, but like, how did this even get this far, where they were allowed to do this?
00:21:11.000 Except for the fact that at one point, you know, he had this plea deal for tax evasion, Hunter Biden did, and also the gun charges, and they were trying to mold them together, and we had a Trump-appointed judge throw that out.
00:21:21.000 It's just this weird clash of like, what are we allowed to do?
00:21:24.000 He's the first child of a sitting president to ever be criminally charged like this.
00:21:28.000 Okay, hear me out.
00:21:30.000 I know everyone's concerned about the 2A ramifications for this case, but for now, what we should do is lock up Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Jill Biden, Hillary Clinton, Comey, Clapper, Yates.
00:21:46.000 I don't want to read every name off the list, but we're only getting started.
00:21:50.000 And so with this, I accept putting all of those people in prison for a very long time.
00:21:56.000 At least until we figure out what the heck is going on.
00:21:58.000 That's right.
00:21:59.000 We gotta put a stop to this.
00:22:00.000 Who would I put into prison?
00:22:03.000 Only somebody who's... I mean, we'd have to go through individual crimes.
00:22:08.000 I believe in due process still, even for my political enemies.
00:22:13.000 I think the Democratic Socialist of America needs to be abolished, so the entire political party.
00:22:18.000 I believe in wartime reciprocity.
00:22:21.000 And so if we keep playing this game of guys, guys, Hunter Biden should go, no, don't care.
00:22:29.000 I'm completely over it because they're putting Bannon in prison.
00:22:31.000 Bannon didn't do anything wrong.
00:22:33.000 They put Peter Navarro in prison.
00:22:35.000 They're putting Trump in prison.
00:22:37.000 It's, you know, look, We're in a lawfare stage in this country, and if Republicans just keep sitting back and saying, well, I'll put it this way.
00:22:47.000 Imagine playing a game of Monopoly where you are watching the other person just take cash out of the bank and stick it into their pile, and you're like, you can't do that, and they go, yeah, I can.
00:22:55.000 And you're like...
00:22:57.000 I guess I lose again.
00:22:58.000 Like, at a certain point, you gotta be like, I'm not playing with you anymore.
00:23:01.000 Yeah.
00:23:02.000 Have you ever played a game with a little kid who just keeps changing the rules so that he can win?
00:23:05.000 Like, that's sort of the impression I have for so much of this right now.
00:23:09.000 Absolutely.
00:23:10.000 So at this point, I'm kind of like, given what they asked for, free speech in due process for those who request it.
00:23:15.000 For anybody who thinks there should be none, then we apply none.
00:23:20.000 And this means that there's only a microscopic .0002% of people who I would be okay with putting in jail without due process, and it's the people who have advocated for jailing people without due process.
00:23:30.000 You come to me and say, we should be able to arrest and jail these people.
00:23:33.000 I'm like, okay, we'll start with you.
00:23:36.000 There you go.
00:23:37.000 Look, the gun-controlled people Of all people defending Hunter Biden, I ain't playing that game.
00:23:43.000 You can't come to me and say you shouldn't be allowed to buy a gun and then defend Hunter Biden when he's doing crack and buys a gun, okay?
00:23:51.000 But he had been sober for 11 days!
00:23:53.000 I think there's a relatable way, I believe, for President Joe Biden to talk about this.
00:23:58.000 I don't think it's unique to Hunter Biden to be in the thralls of addiction.
00:24:02.000 It really goes to show no matter how powerful and well-connected and privileged you are, you are not beyond the realms of becoming a drug addict and ruining your life.
00:24:10.000 So maybe if Joe Biden talked about it like that, I don't know if that would be politically advantageous.
00:24:15.000 But no other addict who had bought a gun under these circumstances would have been given the plea deal that Hunter Biden offered.
00:24:21.000 This is the conversation about the two-tiered justice system that I think really comes down to this moment.
00:24:28.000 Again, I'm happy to have a conversation about whether the law that's in play is real.
00:24:33.000 You know, to your point, if it's the one on the books and he violated it, then there is a level of like, he should be held accountable the way any other American would.
00:24:41.000 It's hard to prove if you're a drug addict.
00:24:43.000 And I think he kind of got screwed over in how they had the contents of his laptop leak.
00:24:49.000 And then it became obvious.
00:24:50.000 I mean, he talks about himself as a drug addict.
00:24:52.000 It's such a weird case because it's in his book that he narrated, right?
00:24:57.000 And he's also like getting his girlfriend slash brother's widow addicted to crack cocaine.
00:25:02.000 He had multiple girlfriends come forward and talk about it.
00:25:05.000 They showed the pictures of him like shirtless and holding a crack pipe.
00:25:08.000 It's not great.
00:25:09.000 But how many crimes were committed like throughout those pictures like that were not prosecuted,
00:25:16.000 Like Tim said, I think that there are so many things he should be prosecuted for, like Burisma, like financial crimes, and I think that this, that they're getting him for this, this actually shows the two-tiered system that if this was anybody else, they actually would have been hit with fraud charges and all this other stuff, but this is what they're giving him to make it look like, oh, nobody's above the law.
00:25:39.000 I don't believe that.
00:25:40.000 I want to jump to this tweet.
00:25:41.000 This is from Ellen Barkin.
00:25:43.000 Shout out to Ellen, who is, I believe, was she like a screenwriter or something?
00:25:47.000 I don't know what she does.
00:25:48.000 But she's got a couple hundred thousand followers.
00:25:49.000 She's a prominent Democrat activist on X. And she is absolutely outraged about Hunter Biden's predicament.
00:25:56.000 She says, what the GOP is doing to Hunter Biden might be the most egregious move yet.
00:26:01.000 In my opinion, the entirety of the GOP must be removed from our planet by whatever means necessary.
00:26:05.000 No bloodshed, though, because it's a real crime.
00:26:07.000 All fall down, you corrupt MFers.
00:26:10.000 The first thing I want to say is, uh, this is the DOJ under Joe Biden.
00:26:14.000 Democrats calling out Hunter Biden's crimes is ancillary to the fact that he's being prosecuted by his dad's administration.
00:26:21.000 Makes you wonder why.
00:26:23.000 Sure, I don't trust what's going on, but seriously?
00:26:27.000 The gun control people are in defense of the crackhead who bought a gun and lied on his background check form?
00:26:33.000 Why are you advocating for background checks if you defend a guy who lied on it?
00:26:38.000 This is a really weird time to be alive.
00:26:40.000 Hypocrites!
00:26:42.000 This is why I'm saying, you know, Will Chamberlain talks about, and I think Jack Posobiec, peacetime conservatives and wartime conservatives.
00:26:50.000 I don't consider myself conservative, though the left does because they live in Wally World.
00:26:55.000 But I certainly believe in peacetime classic liberalism and wartime post-liberalism.
00:27:01.000 That is to say, these people have shown their colors over and over again.
00:27:06.000 They demand... It's a Mont and Bailey.
00:27:08.000 We need background checks for guns.
00:27:10.000 Hunter Biden clearly violates it.
00:27:12.000 No background checks.
00:27:12.000 No!
00:27:13.000 He's fine.
00:27:14.000 You're corrupt.
00:27:14.000 Let him go.
00:27:16.000 Dude, stop listening to these people.
00:27:17.000 They're not telling you the truth.
00:27:19.000 Careful, Tim.
00:27:20.000 Ellen's gonna send you to Mars, apparently.
00:27:21.000 Yeah, because that's what she meant.
00:27:25.000 Like, she's saying, like, this really intense thing, and then she's like, but no bloodshed.
00:27:25.000 That's what I mean!
00:27:29.000 That's not what I mean.
00:27:30.000 Right.
00:27:31.000 Are you sure that's not what you meant?
00:27:32.000 That's what she just said.
00:27:35.000 I don't know.
00:27:35.000 I think that this is, again, I talk about it sometimes where there are people who are so committed to being Democrats and being part of the progressive part of the country that they don't actually think about their values or ideals.
00:27:47.000 And so she doesn't care that it's a gun charge.
00:27:49.000 She doesn't care about anything.
00:27:50.000 She just cares that anyone with the last name Biden should not be persecuted in any ways.
00:27:54.000 Forget all the details.
00:27:56.000 And that is weird.
00:27:57.000 I mean, even, you know, I think you could say the same thing.
00:27:59.000 There are some accolades for Trump who would say, you know, he is You could never be touched by anything.
00:28:04.000 But in this case, this is Joe Biden's administration that's in charge of this.
00:28:08.000 Again, I'm sort of surprised that this was even allowed to be brought to trial.
00:28:14.000 Maybe it's just that his crimes are so egregious.
00:28:16.000 Maybe to your point, they're saying, oh, well, we'll let him get a nice little plea deal on these issues and we'll ignore all the other ones.
00:28:22.000 It's hard to tell.
00:28:24.000 But it's sort of illogical hysteria that's going to plague a lot of American politics, especially going into the election.
00:28:30.000 I've been saying Democrats are a zombie horde.
00:28:33.000 Right?
00:28:34.000 Some of them are lich kings, meaning they are undead and cognizant of the world around them, and others are just zombies marching forward at the command of the puppet masters.
00:28:43.000 These people have no idea what's going on.
00:28:45.000 They don't understand any basic morality or moral philosophy.
00:28:48.000 They have none.
00:28:50.000 Their claims, their desires, their policies are non-existent.
00:28:54.000 One day, women is offensive, so they say, Wemexin, I'm not kidding, with an X, and then the next day they say, Wemexin is exclusive because trans women are women, so just say women.
00:29:04.000 There is no functioning logic behind their desires.
00:29:07.000 It is just chaos.
00:29:09.000 Yeah.
00:29:10.000 I guess the issue here also becomes the weaponization of the DOJ, and once we start seeing Trump be indicted, we're going to see Democrat presidents in the future be indicted by ambitious Republican AGs.
00:29:22.000 Trump allies have been sentenced to prison time, many of them.
00:29:26.000 We spoke about Bannon last night.
00:29:28.000 Trump hasn't been sentenced yet, but Peter Navarro, in the past Paul Manafort, Papadopoulos, Roger Stone.
00:29:34.000 It's a long list, so if we see a sort of tit-for-tat escalation here is the real issue.
00:29:39.000 If Trump seeks reprisals when he gets elected, which I think he alludes to sometimes in a kind tone.
00:29:45.000 And then the Democrats, like, clutch their brawls.
00:29:46.000 They're like, he's saying he would lock up his political rivals and opponents.
00:29:50.000 Because what have you guys been doing since 2021?
00:29:53.000 Can someone, like, you probably don't have enough characters to make this list, but could we get a list of all of Trump's associates who have been falsely charged and imprisoned?
00:30:02.000 Well I think it's like a flimsy charge is what people really believe, because in Steve Bannon's case, contempt of court has happened in the past, but Steve, contempt of Congress has happened in the past, but Bannon's the one who gets sent to prison for it.
00:30:15.000 Navarro's already in prison!
00:30:16.000 Navarro's the same, right?
00:30:18.000 I'm looking, the former Trump adviser... Allen Weisselberg?
00:30:20.000 Four months after, yep, convicted of contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena related to January 6th.
00:30:27.000 It's funny because there are really long lists of people, like Forbes has one, Newsweek has one, but they also stopped tracking them after a while.
00:30:33.000 Like, if you Google this right away, which I just did, because I used to pull these names pretty regularly when I was reporting, and it would be like 11 Trump's associates, but that one is CNN from 2021.
00:30:42.000 Like, they stopped updating their list because they just got so ridiculously long.
00:30:47.000 Hillary Clinton committed a crime by having a private server where there was government and redacted files that she shouldn't have had on private servers and then destroyed all the evidence with software.
00:30:59.000 They could have gone after her or they could have had her throw somebody under the bus if they wanted, but Trump chose not to prosecute.
00:31:05.000 His whole campaign was about locking her up, chose not to go through with it in the idea of unity, I guess, but it seems as though the Democrats do not hold back in not only indicting Trump's allies, but Trump himself.
00:31:18.000 Trump thought he was gonna... Trump thought, I won, I'm the president, now I can be in charge.
00:31:22.000 And he had no idea what he was up against. He should have listened to Schumer.
00:31:25.000 When Schumer said the intelligence agencies got six ways from Sunday from coming after you.
00:31:29.000 Trump wasn't paying attention. And I think it's funny that, you know, people talk about Trump's hires.
00:31:35.000 that he...
00:31:36.000 He put the people in power who ended up doing these things to his associates.
00:31:42.000 It's the people he hired.
00:31:44.000 Who was the attorney general to who recused himself?
00:31:48.000 Oh, the South Carolina guy.
00:31:49.000 What was his name?
00:31:51.000 It's been so long.
00:31:52.000 Jeff Sessions.
00:31:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:31:54.000 So even when they try to do it right, they can't get it.
00:31:56.000 Nah, the deep state went to Sessions and said, resign now.
00:31:58.000 Or else.
00:31:59.000 You're in.
00:31:59.000 He's like, I'm out.
00:32:00.000 I'm out.
00:32:01.000 Leave me alone.
00:32:02.000 Leave me alone.
00:32:03.000 Do you think there's any way to reunify America at this point, or is it just two political factions that are drifting further apart?
00:32:11.000 I do not see there being a way to unify.
00:32:11.000 No way.
00:32:13.000 The political norms kind of ends when you indict Trump.
00:32:18.000 It's like one group thinks that babies can be aborted at nine months.
00:32:18.000 It's not just that.
00:32:26.000 It's just, and there's like, look, there's zero logic behind it.
00:32:29.000 I'm not a staunch pro-lifer, and this is not even the only issue, I am just trying to find the moral consistency and logic for the decisions we make and why we make them.
00:32:38.000 So I talk to a conservative pro-lifer, they'll give me all the reasons, they'll hammer them down, and I'm like, I completely understand exactly what you're saying, I don't know that I agree, That would be the appropriate way to handle it.
00:32:49.000 So the argument I would have with, say, any Ben Shapiro or Steven Crowder, is going to come down to, I understand what you're saying, but in the long run, will this result in a negative or positive outcome that we want?
00:33:01.000 The left's argument is, we have no idea, you're wrong, we want to abort babies at nine months.
00:33:06.000 No matter what logic you present or ask them, it's just, women can do whatever they want.
00:33:11.000 The best example, of course, was when we had that liberal feller, Lance, From the surf song.
00:33:17.000 And he said, a woman could abort whenever she wants her body.
00:33:20.000 And I said, can she do meth?
00:33:22.000 And he's like, no, because that intentionally kills the baby.
00:33:24.000 And then as I hold on there a minute, like, there's no there's there's no morals.
00:33:29.000 It's just chaos.
00:33:31.000 It is it is a raging.
00:33:33.000 It's a cultural fire.
00:33:35.000 And so if we keep if you You can't walk up to a fire and ask it to kindly leave your home.
00:33:42.000 And this is what I feel like a lot of conservatives are doing when they say things like, well, if the law says so, you know, well, fortunately we can't do anything because the law doesn't say.
00:33:51.000 And I'm like, your house is on fire.
00:33:53.000 You need to just get a fire extinguisher.
00:33:55.000 Instead, you're going, excuse me, fire.
00:33:57.000 The door is that way.
00:33:58.000 What are you doing now?
00:33:59.000 Now you're going to the other room?
00:34:01.000 Aw, geez.
00:34:02.000 As if the fire is going to abide by your logic and laws.
00:34:06.000 It won't.
00:34:07.000 It's going to keep spreading.
00:34:08.000 It's going to keep advocating for catastrophe, the sterilization of kids.
00:34:12.000 How about that?
00:34:14.000 Rampant degeneracy and abortions at nine months.
00:34:17.000 There's no reasoning behind why they want to do these things other than they just want to.
00:34:22.000 It's just chaos. Yeah and on the politics of abortion I think Trump navigated that area
00:34:27.000 masterfully. He early on he was able to appease the pro-life faction of the Republican party.
00:34:34.000 He was able to appoint some pro-life judges. They end up appealing, not appealing, repealing Roe v
00:34:39.000 Wade. But now he's saying he doesn't want, he wants to have each state legislate their own way.
00:34:44.000 So, like, I think he's really being able to not be painted as an extremist, but still have the pro-lifers on his side.
00:34:50.000 Although he isn't full-throatedly pro-life, like, and he isn't seeking to outlaw abortion in every state.
00:34:56.000 I think it is a, it's an interesting issue that we now have on, like, do we have common goals as a nation?
00:35:01.000 Like, do we have something that we are trying to work towards?
00:35:03.000 Like, if everyone agreed we don't want abortion anymore, then the argument over like
00:35:08.000 12 weeks birth, like that would be a very different and I think probably more productive fight.
00:35:13.000 Whereas if you have one side that says we want them, the other side says we don't, like there's kind
00:35:17.000 of no compromise. You can make these compromises where everyone's unhappy, but it's not the same.
00:35:22.000 But you know, I generally think that this split is deepening all the time, but there are moments
00:35:27.000 where I'm like, maybe there's some Yeah, I have the same feeling.
00:35:34.000 Most of the time I feel like things are so bad that there's very little everybody can agree on now.
00:35:40.000 There's very little middle ground.
00:35:42.000 Everything is politicized.
00:35:44.000 But I also feel like It's gotten so politicized and so polarized and crazy that people are also kind of tuning out of politics altogether.
00:35:53.000 They're not interested in politics anymore, and I think that that's a good thing, because then I feel like the shift is now more people who see what's happening to our country and don't like it and want it to change for the better, and then there are people that see what's happening, they think it's a good thing, and they want more of that.
00:36:09.000 Yeah, it's interesting.
00:36:12.000 Joe Manchin just switched to being an independent, left the Democratic Party.
00:36:15.000 Obviously, it's very interesting because West Virginia used to be a Democrat stronghold.
00:36:19.000 It's definitely a Republican state now.
00:36:21.000 It's one of the only states in the country that went entirely for Trump in 2020.
00:36:24.000 And he is ushering through this new Immigration bill, he is objecting to a rule that's out
00:36:32.000 there that's about basically how unaccompanied migrant minors are handled and managed
00:36:37.000 basically by the federal government.
00:36:39.000 And he is spearheading, they're calling it bipartisan, but it's him and like 40 Republicans
00:36:46.000 who have backed it, which is also interesting because when he came out as independent, there
00:36:49.000 was a question of like, but are you just independent in name only?
00:36:52.000 Are you still caucusing with Democrats?
00:36:53.000 What are you doing?
00:36:54.000 So he has this legislative effort.
00:36:56.000 He's working with Republicans and his objection to it is that the rules that they're using,
00:37:00.000 they say, you know, put basically put migrant minor unaccompanied migrants in danger.
00:37:05.000 They make it so there's no vetting of whoever the sponsor is, who's they're supposed to
00:37:09.000 send the migrant kid to live with.
00:37:11.000 And there's no follow up in terms of like home studies to see if they're safe.
00:37:14.000 It's dangerous.
00:37:16.000 And I'm sure there are Republicans who are signing on to this.
00:37:19.000 Maybe they do want child welfare, but also they say we want to stop incentivizing Like, sending minor children across, we want to fight human trafficking.
00:37:27.000 Like, there is actually a common goal in this even if they're maybe talking about different aspects of what the dangers are, if it's a burden for the American government, the taxpayers, things like that.
00:37:35.000 So there are these moments where I'm like maybe there is some sort of realignment happening but it's just not enough on the political front.
00:37:42.000 Maybe you're right.
00:37:43.000 The fact that it's happening kind of socially, that people are turning inward and saying, well, what are my values?
00:37:46.000 What am I interested in?
00:37:48.000 Instead of just paying attention to team politics is really how you would see the shift and the divide.
00:37:53.000 I've also seen it, too, where, like, with the Republicans, they never really cared about, like, prison reform.
00:37:58.000 Like, I just attended both of the BOP oversight hearings, and I felt like that was, for once, it seemed like that's something they can come together on, that both sides can agree we need to reform the prison system.
00:38:11.000 No, because Trump did some prison reform and then got wailed on it for it because it was bad.
00:38:17.000 I feel like Republicans in principle aren't the party of prison reform.
00:38:22.000 They don't care about solitary confinement and it's crazy because we have the political prisoners.
00:38:22.000 They're not.
00:38:27.000 Right, I was going to say, maybe they'll care about it more in the wake of all the January 6th prisoners.
00:38:31.000 Most of the people in jail aren't political prisoners though.
00:38:33.000 Most of the people in jail are just criminals.
00:38:36.000 Yeah, I would say that is absolutely correct, but I do think the amount of political prisoners that exist is way more than people realize.
00:38:45.000 Extending well beyond J6.
00:38:46.000 There's a lot of You know, there's probably tons of stories of some dude who's in New York, L.A., or whatever, and they know that there's a politician who's doing something wrong, and the cop shows up at their house.
00:39:01.000 I remember reading about Bakersfield in California.
00:39:05.000 Some dude had evidence of police impropriety, and so they kept trying to find ways to get the crime on him and then lock him up, and they did.
00:39:13.000 These kinds of things happen a lot.
00:39:15.000 I'm a big fan of prison reform.
00:39:17.000 I think Trump was on the right track with it, and I want to see more of it.
00:39:20.000 We'll see, though.
00:39:21.000 I think if you were to have a sit-down conversation on prison morality, private versus public, etc., you're going to get garbled, insane nonsense from the left and hypocrisy.
00:39:31.000 I think prison reform sounds nice on paper, but let's be specific.
00:39:34.000 When we're saying prison reform, you guys don't believe in lowering sentences for violent offenders, right?
00:39:40.000 No, I think violent offenders get sent to an island.
00:39:42.000 I mean, that sounds like prison reform the other way.
00:39:45.000 I agree with you.
00:39:46.000 I mean, like, fixing the Federal Bureau of Prisons, you have dilapidated buildings that are falling apart, you have a high suicide rate, there's a lot of problems in the prisons as far as, like, human rights issues.
00:39:56.000 That is something that everybody should agree on.
00:39:59.000 They need more staffing.
00:40:00.000 They're understaffed.
00:40:01.000 The staff that they have Have a lot of issues.
00:40:04.000 They have addiction issues, mental health issues.
00:40:07.000 They have spousal abuse issues.
00:40:09.000 There's a lot of issues with the federal BOP that should be fixed.
00:40:13.000 From a bipartisan perspective, I wouldn't see any issues with that.
00:40:17.000 I'm sure the jails are extremely corrupt.
00:40:18.000 I've never been, but... My prison reform is, we should abolish maximum security prisons completely.
00:40:25.000 Completely abolish them.
00:40:27.000 If you commit a crime that qualifies for a supermax or maximum security, you go to the island.
00:40:32.000 And the island will just be one of thousands of different islands.
00:40:35.000 So if you're a violent offender, we say, you have been excised from society for your violent offense through due process, through evidence, we prove beyond a reasonable doubt, and then we say, You're free to go to this island and nowhere else.
00:40:48.000 And good luck.
00:40:48.000 You survive.
00:40:49.000 You're on your own.
00:40:50.000 I don't see why we're paying for you.
00:40:51.000 I don't see why- Maybe more humane than an actual prison.
00:40:54.000 I don't think- It is more humane.
00:40:55.000 I think it is.
00:40:57.000 That's the point.
00:40:58.000 You're telling them, we're breaking up.
00:41:00.000 You've wronged us, so we are saying all the things we build, all the things we sustain, and all the rules we agree to follow, you don't.
00:41:07.000 So you can go live on an island, and there's fish in the water, and there's critters running around, there's deer.
00:41:13.000 I'm not talking like a tiny little rock, I'm saying like, you know, maybe a square mile or something.
00:41:19.000 And then, how many people can reasonably live on it?
00:41:21.000 Good luck.
00:41:22.000 That's why I say maximum security.
00:41:23.000 White collar crimes?
00:41:24.000 We can keep those prisons.
00:41:25.000 You don't need much.
00:41:28.000 Many of these places are like golf courses you can't leave.
00:41:31.000 And so you're caught committing financial crimes?
00:41:33.000 Okay, you're going to time out.
00:41:34.000 We're cutting off your access to the internet.
00:41:36.000 You're going to wear the white jumpsuit.
00:41:38.000 You're going to hang out, watch soap operas.
00:41:39.000 Nobody's concerned about you hurting anybody, but you did kind of screw with the system, so there you go.
00:41:44.000 And then for a lot of what we see on the streets?
00:41:46.000 Mental illness?
00:41:47.000 Mental asylums.
00:41:49.000 So we gotta stop wasting money on these prisons.
00:41:52.000 You know, a guy in a major city who joins a gang and then kills somebody, why are we being like, okay, now we're gonna go send you to hang out with your gang to learn more how to be a gangbanger?
00:42:02.000 Island!
00:42:02.000 It's never made sense to me, and I do think to your point, like, Right now, because we don't have any alters, we don't have asylums, we sort of just lump a lot of people together and it creates these very crazy systems.
00:42:13.000 I mean, when you talk about, you know, some of the violence data that comes out of it, people will always ignore it because they're like, well, the power structure in prison is very weird.
00:42:20.000 But it's like, so then why is this what we're maintaining?
00:42:24.000 If any of this, like, I agree, violent offenders, you know, You need to take it really seriously, but I also think that if the objective is to rehabilitate people, we're clearly not doing that.
00:42:34.000 And so it seems like this is a system that everybody is pouring money into, the taxpayers especially, that we are not seeing results from.
00:42:41.000 Like, there should be accountability there.
00:42:42.000 So someone said... Where's that shit?
00:42:46.000 I just missed it.
00:42:47.000 Oh, well.
00:42:47.000 Someone said, did Tim just realize he's created Cannibal Island?
00:42:51.000 I just want to stress if... I want you to understand.
00:42:56.000 If we all live in this society, whether we want to or not, you're born into it, and there are rules that we follow.
00:43:03.000 Some written, some unwritten.
00:43:04.000 And we all agree, you know what, we're going to do our best to get along.
00:43:07.000 And then, y'all come around with a gun, and like, I don't know, shoot a pregnant lady to steal her purse.
00:43:14.000 You have agreed, you don't care for the rules that we do.
00:43:18.000 So we say to you, good sir, we are going to exile you.
00:43:21.000 That's what we used to do back in the day.
00:43:22.000 Like, hundreds of years ago, exile was a serious punishment because you're on your own, good luck, don't come back.
00:43:29.000 I'm good with that.
00:43:31.000 Probably more humane than locking them in prisons where we joke about how they're gonna get raped.
00:43:35.000 Now we can be like, your worst case scenario is, you have no access to our roads, to our clean running water, to our showers and air conditioning, to our stores.
00:43:43.000 But you're free to live somewhere else, and if you call that Cannibal Island because that's what they end up doing, I don't see why that's our problem.
00:43:50.000 Everybody who lives here has the opportunity to abide by the rules and they don't want to.
00:43:54.000 What do you think is more humane?
00:43:56.000 Locking them in a cage where we joke about them getting raped by other people, where they could become hardened criminals and join gangs, or...
00:44:02.000 Go live the way humans lived a thousand years ago.
00:44:04.000 You're on your own.
00:44:05.000 In my experience, criminal justice reform has kind of just been a Trojan horse for anarchy, at least in my experience in New York City.
00:44:14.000 Criminal justice reform candidates are usually George Soros DAs.
00:44:17.000 It works in conjunction with that, where they plea down and whatever charges are.
00:44:23.000 It's like a narco-tyranny.
00:44:24.000 Yeah, which is a bad thing, which is why I'm actually against criminal justice reform.
00:44:29.000 And then we see the way that it affects—in principle, again, it sounds nice, but then in practice, I feel like it always ends up going wrong.
00:44:36.000 It ends up to things like bail reform and cashless bail that we have now in New York City, which again, in principle, sounds nice, but leads to more violent crimes happening on the streets.
00:44:45.000 So like, on principle, I think it sounds nice, but in practice— Tell me how my prison reform would not result in a reduction of crime.
00:44:53.000 It's just, it's used as a euphemism, though.
00:44:57.000 The politicians who say they are for criminal justice reform are George Soros.
00:45:03.000 Then stop using their language.
00:45:07.000 If the ideas we're attempting to convey are, how do we fix the prison system, don't use the language of the left, and then We need law and order DAs.
00:45:16.000 We need not DAs focused on... I don't think that solves the problem.
00:45:20.000 I think the idea of taking a 17-year-old kid who murdered someone to join a gang, putting him in a prison where he then joins the gang, which is in there, and they say, here's how you work in the system, here's how you work outside the system, here's how our gang operates inside and out, part of the gang operates inside and makes money doing so.
00:45:36.000 I'm like, there's a reason why These people don't fear prison because prison is just another component of how their gang operates.
00:45:44.000 If the alternative is island, I'm with you.
00:45:47.000 If the alternative is, which is what most people do when they talk about criminal justice reform, is only giving him 10 years or 15.
00:45:56.000 How about bringing back, like, medieval forms of, like, they used to have the stacks, they used to have other things.
00:46:02.000 We could really be creative about this.
00:46:05.000 No, but for real, like, for people who were non-violent offenders or drug offenders, they throw them in prison, they don't get the rehabilitation that they need, why not do something different, more creative?
00:46:17.000 I think the island is the most humane, and I think the island makes the most sense.
00:46:24.000 The reason being, if someone is innocent, all you're really doing is saying, like, we're breaking up.
00:46:30.000 Like, I'm not going to give you my stuff anymore.
00:46:33.000 So the worst case scenario is, it does suck to get exiled, but if you're innocent, at least no one's putting you in the stocks or whatever.
00:46:40.000 No one's locking you in a box where you might get raped.
00:46:42.000 You just have to figure out how to make a fire and, you know, I do think, I'll clarify this too because I was talking yesterday, the island doesn't just mean a desolate island.
00:46:49.000 I'm talking about very, very basic infrastructure.
00:46:53.000 We figure out how many people can reasonably be sustained on it, and there's a big building
00:46:57.000 with like bunks.
00:46:59.000 And then you guys sort it out.
00:47:01.000 You want to be violent?
00:47:02.000 You want to kill some woman because you stole her purse?
00:47:06.000 You guys can go figure it out.
00:47:07.000 You want to join a gang?
00:47:08.000 So how about this?
00:47:09.000 This is what they do.
00:47:11.000 These gangs will go to a minor, a 15 year old.
00:47:14.000 They'll give him a gun and say, this guy is on our hit list.
00:47:18.000 You go take care of him because you're only going to jail for three years.
00:47:21.000 And then when you get out, because you'll be a minor, you're going to say, the gang made me do it.
00:47:27.000 Then they're gonna put you in juvie for a couple years.
00:47:28.000 You get out, then you're one of us.
00:47:31.000 How about this?
00:47:32.000 Sorry dude!
00:47:33.000 Island.
00:47:34.000 Island.
00:47:34.000 A 15 year old.
00:47:35.000 You killed somebody.
00:47:37.000 Well, I suppose it's fair to say if you're a juvenile, there will be still some extenuating circumstances for, do we really blame the kid, but we cannot let that kid join the gang and go back to where they came from.
00:47:48.000 So then I think the answer would be for juveniles who do these things, they get exiled to other parts of the country and they have no communication orders with those other people or something like that.
00:47:56.000 But I think for any adult that's engaging this behavior, If you were to ask me, it's like, hey, you've been falsely accused of a crime, you can get locked in a box where people are going to joke about how you're about to get raped, or island.
00:48:10.000 I'd say island, two seconds.
00:48:11.000 I will go fish, I will fend for myself, right?
00:48:15.000 So the issue with medieval forms of punishment, which gets into the cruel and unusual, which I don't necessarily agree always is, Uh, is that sometimes there are innocent people that are wronged, but I'm not wronging you.
00:48:27.000 I don't think our society is wronging you by telling you that you're not welcome here anymore.
00:48:31.000 Like, if someone goes in your house and takes a dump on your floor, you can kick them out.
00:48:35.000 Right.
00:48:35.000 It's like saying it's a privilege to be a part of our community, and if you abuse that privilege by violating our laws or, you know, attacking other people, you don't get to be a part of this.
00:48:43.000 I will say this.
00:48:44.000 I can tell you this for a fact.
00:48:46.000 One guaranteed way to reduce crime would be to make the punishment for aggravated crimes, you are paraded around the city in a diaper, you are made to crawl and goo goo gaga and say, I'm a stinky baby, I'm a stinky baby, while everyone gets to film you.
00:49:03.000 I'm not kidding.
00:49:05.000 When I'm hanging out with these kids, I'm in LA or whatever, they say things like, I haven't gone to jail yet.
00:49:12.000 They do not fear jail at all.
00:49:15.000 But what I can tell you is a lot of the shootings that happen, which we think is gang violence, is actually honor retaliations.
00:49:23.000 Some guy goes on social media and insults another guy, so him and the boys show up at his house and they get revenge.
00:49:28.000 They say, don't you insult me, right?
00:49:32.000 These guys would not engage in a crime if they knew the punishment was they're gonna be blasted out on TikTok and Facebook and Instagram in a diaper being made to crawl and told to beg in front of all the people pointing and laughing at them saying, Google Gaga, I'm a stinky baby.
00:49:47.000 They'd be like, dude, I'm not getting caught, dude.
00:49:48.000 I will not do that.
00:49:51.000 That is it.
00:49:52.000 You will never be hard again.
00:49:54.000 You will be made fun of.
00:49:55.000 You will never escape that for the rest of your life.
00:49:57.000 That would terrify people.
00:49:58.000 I'm not advocating we do that.
00:50:00.000 I'm just explaining The current jail system is not a deterrent.
00:50:05.000 It does not disincentivize.
00:50:06.000 It sounds like what we used to do to the tax collectors, the tarring and feathering, almost.
00:50:11.000 Kind of a version of that.
00:50:11.000 It is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:50:12.000 I just think, like, there's a lot of young guys who, they want street cred, they go to jail, and they brag about what they've done.
00:50:20.000 Ain't nobody gonna be bragging if they're like, I know what you did, goo goo gaga me stinky baby.
00:50:24.000 Like, dude, you got no credit anymore.
00:50:27.000 It's shame as a deterrent because otherwise you say, oh yeah, I did this crime and then I made it through prison and I'm so tough and what have you.
00:50:33.000 You're kind of reinforcing this image that they have created for themselves and they need to project to be involved in, you know, criminal activity.
00:50:39.000 For a lot of these people, going to prison is a point of honor.
00:50:42.000 They get tattoos, they mark down how much time they've done and they brag to each other, you don't know what you're talking about, you haven't done time.
00:50:49.000 Well, take away his time and put him in a diaper and see how much he brags about it.
00:50:53.000 He's gonna be like, look at my Instagram feed.
00:50:55.000 Look at me wearing that diaper.
00:50:56.000 You don't know what I've been through.
00:50:57.000 People are gonna be like, dude, are you kidding?
00:50:59.000 Nah.
00:51:01.000 They'd be terrified for that to happen.
00:51:03.000 And you gotta make sure you're changing it up.
00:51:04.000 It's not always putting him in a diaper and making him crawl through the street.
00:51:07.000 It's just varying things like that, you know?
00:51:09.000 I think there's something about our justice system that we don't do cruel and unusual punishments, and we give people some basic rights, and even some of the worst criminals in our country, we're not willing to—we barely do the death penalty.
00:51:21.000 It's unkosher in most states.
00:51:23.000 Even in Guantanamo Bay, we don't even kill the people who we think are some of the worst criminals in our— Our whole jail system is cruel and unusual.
00:51:30.000 Exactly!
00:51:31.000 Like, it is a joke that men get raped in prison.
00:51:37.000 I think rape in prison is wrong.
00:51:38.000 The fact that we know it happens...
00:51:42.000 As a society, people laugh about it online, shows that our system is cruel and unusual, it is in violation of the Constitution.
00:51:50.000 If that's the case, I tell you this, which would you prefer?
00:51:53.000 Ten years in a maximum security prison, or, you gotta put the diaper on, and we're gonna parade you around and you say, Goo Goo Gah, I'm a stinky baby.
00:52:00.000 If, look, if you're in for murder and all you have to do is go around town in a diaper, in a stinky diaper... No, murder's different, murder's the island.
00:52:05.000 Okay, murder's the island.
00:52:07.000 Well, you're getting raped on the island, too.
00:52:09.000 No, you're not.
00:52:10.000 There's gonna be a mess?
00:52:10.000 Why not?
00:52:12.000 Yeah, it feels like it.
00:52:14.000 Well, that's what happens in regular jail, too.
00:52:16.000 What you're saying is, the island as I view it is nature.
00:52:22.000 I was thinking about Jeffrey Epstein.
00:52:25.000 That island has nothing on it.
00:52:27.000 An island where sexual crimes are committed, yeah.
00:52:31.000 You live in the middle of nowhere and you're in the wilderness, you figure it out.
00:52:35.000 Okay?
00:52:36.000 If you think you're gonna get raped walking around the woods one day, then don't go to the woods.
00:52:39.000 If we take a bunch of violent offenders and put them on an island, yeah, then you're going to have a bunch of creepy widows and violent offenders, but I tell you this, the people who are there for rape are probably going to not do so well because the rest of the guys are going to team up and be like, nah.
00:52:51.000 So the reason I bring up the island thing is because there's already been research on it, and it's dramatically reduced criminal behaviors.
00:52:58.000 When they forced violent criminals to re-adapt To survival, learning how to set up a fire, find food, and take care of themselves.
00:53:07.000 It consumed them.
00:53:08.000 It took away their time and energy towards these violent behaviors.
00:53:12.000 That's interesting, too.
00:53:13.000 Like, giving them something that maybe makes them feel like they have a purpose.
00:53:18.000 I don't know.
00:53:19.000 I think it does make a big difference.
00:53:20.000 I think that matters, though.
00:53:21.000 I think everybody needs to feel like they have a purpose and that they're doing something that contributes in some way.
00:53:27.000 Yeah.
00:53:28.000 When people have no choice but to work to survive, then it changes you.
00:53:34.000 Because you're not gonna... On an island where there's like, let's say there's ten guys, and they're fishing.
00:53:40.000 You can try and steal someone's fish, but then they're gonna fight you, and you're not gonna be able to do it.
00:53:44.000 So it's like, now you're in this position where the only people who are around you are people who can fend for themselves, for the most part.
00:53:52.000 You don't have easy victims anymore.
00:53:54.000 Let's jump to this next story.
00:53:55.000 We'll have some fun with it on this Friday night.
00:53:57.000 From the Post Millennial, Chelsea Handler said she had to remind 50 Cent that he can't vote for Donald Trump because he's black.
00:54:05.000 The racism of these cringe leftists.
00:54:08.000 Here you go, here you go.
00:54:09.000 You heard about my ex-boyfriend, right?
00:54:11.000 50 Cent and his support of Donald Trump.
00:54:15.000 Yeah, what's going on between you?
00:54:16.000 I saw your tweets and I go, wait, what's happening?
00:54:18.000 Because you said he was your favorite ex-boyfriend and then he... What is he doing?
00:54:24.000 Supporting Trump?
00:54:25.000 He says he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes, which, by the way, isn't a plan of Joe Biden's.
00:54:30.000 That's a lie.
00:54:31.000 So he doesn't want to pay 62% of taxes because he doesn't want to go from being $0.50 to $0.20.
00:54:39.000 And I had to remind him that he was a black person.
00:54:42.000 So he can't vote for Donald Trump and that he shouldn't be influencing an entire swath of people who may listen to him because he's worried about his own personal pocketbook.
00:54:52.000 So I haven't heard back from him yet, but I am willing to, you know, seal the deal in more ways than one if he changes his mind and publicly denounces Donald Trump.
00:55:03.000 I might be willing to go for another spin if you know what I'm talking about.
00:55:06.000 There is nothing like wealthy, liberal, white women.
00:55:10.000 I mean, she's completely wrong because we know for a fact that Biden announced a tax plan not that long ago that would spike almost all taxes through the roof.
00:55:20.000 This is Forbes, May 7th, 2024.
00:55:23.000 They literally just updated it right now.
00:55:25.000 Under Biden tax plan, capital gains tax will exceed 50% in 11 states.
00:55:30.000 This isn't the only story because we covered this a while ago.
00:55:33.000 This is, you know, I don't know what to tell you.
00:55:37.000 Chelsea Handler is a low-cognition human.
00:55:42.000 I try to be academic in my insults, and she has no idea what she's talking about.
00:55:46.000 50 Cent does.
00:55:49.000 He does not want to pay exorbitant taxes, so he'll vote for Trump.
00:55:52.000 So Chelsea decides that she should be racist, I guess, and tell him that black people aren't allowed to vote for Donald Trump.
00:56:01.000 Oh, man.
00:56:02.000 Can you imagine thinking this is going to look good if I say I had to remind my ex-boyfriend that he was black?
00:56:09.000 What are you talking about, Chelsea Handler?
00:56:12.000 Handler shouldn't have even had to come out.
00:56:14.000 She didn't have to come out and say this because Trump's plan to attract black voters through different campaigns, including celebrities like 50 Cent, is Not going to work at all.
00:56:26.000 So I don't know why Chelsea Handler has to kind of defend, you know, Democrats against from black people, because, I mean, it's not a good plan.
00:56:35.000 And there's three officials.
00:56:36.000 What's his plan?
00:56:37.000 So there's three officials within the Trump campaign to outline to Politico the former president's strategy to attract more black voters, mainly by using his legal troubles and issues of race in New York more broadly with immigration to try to attract more of them.
00:56:51.000 Hey, well, nothing else worked, so why not?
00:56:53.000 The theme is, like you, I'm unfairly persecuted by the criminal justice system, but I don't think this will be a play that works out.
00:57:01.000 Trump famously pardoned many black rappers.
00:57:04.000 Kodak Black, I believe.
00:57:05.000 Lil Wayne as well.
00:57:06.000 But I don't think black people will vote any less for Democrats now.
00:57:11.000 Biden will still end up getting 80 plus percent of the Democrat vote, even if Trump picks a black VP.
00:57:18.000 Trump should offer reparations.
00:57:21.000 Trump should come out and be like, if you vote for me, I will push reparations for the black community.
00:57:26.000 And the reason why is Trump supporters would vote for him either way.
00:57:30.000 And so what does it matter?
00:57:32.000 I hate the idea of like really trying to, it's so boldly trying to buy off voters.
00:57:36.000 Not that Trump would be, would be unique in that if he did that, but it's just so blatant and upfront.
00:57:41.000 My point is just to rip it out from underneath Democrats.
00:57:44.000 It's crazy how, like, every five, ten years, the conversation of reparations comes on the scene.
00:57:49.000 Every four years.
00:57:50.000 Every four years.
00:57:51.000 There you go.
00:57:52.000 Completely disappears once Biden's in office, once they're Democrats in office.
00:57:55.000 Nobody talks about it anymore.
00:57:57.000 But I remember when I got started seven or eight years ago, oh, yeah, it was a big, big thing to talk about.
00:58:01.000 I don't know.
00:58:02.000 It comes in and out.
00:58:03.000 But this Trump campaign strategy to attract more black voters, I mean, good for you guys for trying.
00:58:08.000 It will not work.
00:58:09.000 And if they were relying on it, you're better off reaching out to Hispanics.
00:58:12.000 There's all kinds of stuff that political campaigns do for a minute to try and buy voters.
00:58:16.000 Like, I don't know if you saw this, but Paul Gosar introduced this bill to have the $500 bill have Trump's face on it.
00:58:22.000 And it prompted all this reflection on the fact that they had been like, we should take Andrew Jackson off the 20 and put Harry Tubman on.
00:58:27.000 And then, so it got paused under Trump.
00:58:29.000 This is an Obama thing.
00:58:30.000 Paused under Trump.
00:58:31.000 The Biden administration, like, early January, as soon as he was in office, was like, we're bringing it back.
00:58:35.000 Have you guys heard about this?
00:58:36.000 No.
00:58:36.000 They wanted to get rid of the best Democrat off the 20?
00:58:40.000 Yes.
00:58:40.000 I got an idea.
00:58:42.000 Trump should offer, if he wants to get more Latino voters, he should offer to give back California.
00:58:48.000 No, if anything, he should offer to take more.
00:58:50.000 He should offer to take, uh... He's like, it's two birds with one stone.
00:58:54.000 Right?
00:58:55.000 So listen, like, if you're in California, you're Mexico now, exactly what you want.
00:58:59.000 And we don't want California either.
00:59:01.000 So it's a win-win for everybody.
00:59:02.000 Well, there are all kinds of border communities in Texas that became more red under Trump because they are actually tired of illegal immigration, right?
00:59:10.000 Like, I don't know that Trump actually has to do anything gimmicky.
00:59:13.000 Like, he could just keep on keeping on and it would be fine.
00:59:17.000 I think that the worst part here is that probably someone on the Biden campaign, like, called Chelsea Handler immediately and was like, don't forget to point out these talking points.
00:59:24.000 It's really important that we don't let people get excited about this 50 cent thing.
00:59:27.000 I'm just so not sold on Trump trying to effectively reach out to black voters.
00:59:31.000 In the past, he did all, we mentioned it earlier, the criminal justice reform.
00:59:34.000 That was purely a play for black voters that didn't pan out.
00:59:40.000 Maybe he should double down on other things.
00:59:41.000 Maybe Trump and the Trump campaign and staffers know something that I don't.
00:59:46.000 The rally that he held in the South Bronx was a smashing success, although I don't know how politically or electorally relevant that will pan out being.
00:59:55.000 It was cool that he visited New York, though.
00:59:56.000 I just think it's symbolic.
00:59:57.000 The Bronx visit is just about the fact that Democrats haven't been there.
01:00:01.000 That part of New York is taken for granted.
01:00:03.000 When he's reaching out to the 20% of black people that vote for him, it feels like he's doing too much pandering to them and not rewarding his base enough, if anything.
01:00:13.000 We need to solve the immigration crisis.
01:00:14.000 I guess he is trying to tie these issues together, but I don't know how compelled black people would be when he says and talks about immigration swamping us.
01:00:25.000 I mean, in this case, it seems like 50 Cent is saying, actually, it's the economic issues are what we should talk about more, which is really what they should do.
01:00:31.000 Because Biden, if you push Biden on it at all, he's a bad record.
01:00:34.000 This isn't even the most famous black rapper to come.
01:00:37.000 Did he come out for Trump explicitly?
01:00:38.000 Or was it a visit to Congress that he was doing?
01:00:40.000 But Lil Wayne's more famous than 50 Cent.
01:00:43.000 So I don't know who cares about this guy.
01:00:45.000 Do you care about 50 Cent?
01:00:47.000 Are you a big fan?
01:00:48.000 No.
01:00:48.000 Do you remember 50 Cent?
01:00:50.000 I remember 50 Cent from back in the day.
01:00:53.000 In the club?
01:00:54.000 No, I think Lil Wayne's a little bit more.
01:00:56.000 Well, if Lil Wayne couldn't convince black people to vote for Trump, I don't know if there's anybody who can.
01:01:03.000 I mean, 50 Cent endorsed Biden last time, so maybe the fact that he just is converted now is the bigger story here.
01:01:09.000 I think we're beating around the bush of how totally irrelevant celebrity endorsements are.
01:01:14.000 Nobody's being convinced by Chelsea Handler saying anything.
01:01:18.000 What moron is being convinced by 50 Cent?
01:01:20.000 It's like, oh yeah, 50 Cent said it.
01:01:22.000 She could have not talked about this.
01:01:23.000 Basically what she's saying is, I'm still thinking about my ex-boyfriend and I'm sad that he's a Republican.
01:01:28.000 I didn't know they were a thing.
01:01:29.000 I didn't know that.
01:01:31.000 But she's highlighting it so she's actually kind of alone.
01:01:35.000 I worry about people like Chelsea Handler.
01:01:37.000 How old is she?
01:01:38.000 She's in her 50s.
01:01:39.000 Right.
01:01:40.000 She's a single 50-something-year-old woman.
01:01:42.000 49.
01:01:42.000 She's 49?
01:01:43.000 Really?
01:01:45.000 Are you saying she looks bad for her age, Hannah Clare?
01:01:47.000 I thought she was older.
01:01:49.000 I thought she was 58 or something.
01:01:50.000 That's a really pixely picture of her too.
01:01:53.000 But either way, it's like, you know, I remember when she talked about how she wakes up, does drugs, masturbates, goes to bed, wakes up, does drugs again.
01:02:00.000 And Ben Shapiro was like, she's miserable.
01:02:02.000 She's absolutely miserable.
01:02:03.000 And I was like, I don't think so.
01:02:05.000 I think she's very much in the moment and happy.
01:02:08.000 But she's headed towards the epitome of nightmare scenarios for a human being.
01:02:15.000 You know, it is sad, but it is reality that as you get older, you have less and less friends, relationships become harder to maintain, and friends and family begin to die.
01:02:26.000 It is a reality.
01:02:28.000 So, you know, everybody's gone through it.
01:02:31.000 I don't know when the first time it happened to me, I think I was a teenager.
01:02:34.000 I was like 18, when we found out one of our neighborhood friends had died from a drug overdose.
01:02:39.000 And it's like a crazy thing when you realize you will never see them again, you will never hear them again.
01:02:44.000 It's like, You don't really get it when you're a kid because you haven't been around, you haven't been alive that long to witness these things.
01:02:49.000 Maybe you had a pet die or something like that.
01:02:52.000 And then you get older and it happens quite a bit.
01:02:55.000 And then you end up getting messages from friends be like, Hey man, how you been?
01:02:58.000 Just want to let you know, uh, yeah, Rick passed away.
01:03:00.000 Uh, a friend of mine, uh, had a, uh, he died in his sleep.
01:03:04.000 We don't know how he was.
01:03:05.000 He was like 37 years old.
01:03:06.000 A kid from my neighborhood.
01:03:08.000 You know, understanding these things, the one thing that is always there for the average person throughout human history is that they have families.
01:03:15.000 They always did.
01:03:16.000 Everyone alive today had a family.
01:03:18.000 Now, you may have been detached from your family, but everyone had a family.
01:03:21.000 If you don't have kids, you will be the first life form in your entire genetic lineage to not reproduce.
01:03:31.000 Chelsea Handler is very much going to end up as an old woman sitting in a house and the kids are going to be outside the apartment or house, that's old lady Handler's place.
01:03:42.000 She's going to know nobody.
01:03:45.000 She may be a bit more fortunate than most that she's famous.
01:03:48.000 And rich.
01:03:49.000 Yeah, and the women that she influences that are like her.
01:03:53.000 are going to have a bunch of cats, they're going to be destitute, unable to work, and
01:03:57.000 Social Security is going to become insolvent in 10 years.
01:03:59.000 So for someone like her, I could not imagine the amount of drugs she is going to need to do to
01:04:06.000 overcome the emotional crisis she will experience as more and more of her friends and family die.
01:04:11.000 I remember when George Burns...
01:04:15.000 Was that his name?
01:04:15.000 I don't even really know.
01:04:17.000 Let me see if that's the guy.
01:04:19.000 Was that the guy?
01:04:19.000 The older people know who I'm talking about.
01:04:21.000 He's a comedian or something.
01:04:23.000 Yeah, I remember hearing about him dying.
01:04:26.000 Yeah, he was 100 years old.
01:04:28.000 He died March 9th, 1996.
01:04:30.000 Crazy!
01:04:30.000 He died on my birthday, March 9th, when I was 10 years old.
01:04:33.000 I didn't know who he was, but I remember hearing about it when I was a kid, and I'm just thinking, I don't know or care what that is or who that is.
01:04:40.000 It means nothing to me.
01:04:42.000 But there are a lot of people who were like, wow, I remember watching that guy when I was a kid, and now he died.
01:04:48.000 And that's going to happen more and more and more.
01:04:50.000 People die.
01:04:52.000 This woman is not going to relate to any Gen Z, or TikToker, Gen Alpha, Gen Beta, any of that stuff.
01:04:57.000 She's gonna be an out-of-touch, uh, let's just call her, um, asynchronous, or, uh, you know, I don't know what the right word might be, but...
01:05:09.000 It's a curse, I would not wish on my worst enemies.
01:05:12.000 She's developing a parasocial relationship with an audience.
01:05:16.000 She's going on these late night talk shows.
01:05:18.000 I'm sure she has Instagram friends, but very sad.
01:05:22.000 Tim, there's something that struck me about what you said in there, a particular part of it, and it was that the first person that you knew that died was from a drug overdose.
01:05:31.000 It's really sad because that's the first person, it was a drug overdose that killed them.
01:05:35.000 And the first person I knew who died was also of a drug overdose.
01:05:40.000 And I feel like that's an extremely common thing, the opioid crisis and drug crisis in our country that we kind of overlook constantly.
01:05:46.000 But for young people nowadays, it really is the first person who you knew died was somebody in your high school or something overdosing from God knows what.
01:05:55.000 So I don't know that.
01:05:58.000 I think that, you know, it makes a lot of sense.
01:06:00.000 Young kids... Number one killer, I believe, of young... You know, drugs?
01:06:03.000 It was heroin.
01:06:04.000 Yeah.
01:06:04.000 And that was like the first time I was like, oh, did you hear so-and-so died?
01:06:07.000 And I was like, what?
01:06:08.000 How?
01:06:09.000 And, you know, a lot of people do have someone where it's like a kid had a medical issue, but it's like young people don't die at the rate older people do, but not once you're in your 30s.
01:06:18.000 And I know everybody listening, they know it.
01:06:20.000 Some of you might've got a message, you know, recently, a week ago, a month ago, where they're like, Hey, it's Rick from back home.
01:06:28.000 How you been?
01:06:29.000 It's pretty good.
01:06:30.000 Just calling to let you know, man, that Jim passed away.
01:06:32.000 He had a heart attack.
01:06:33.000 And it's like, oh man.
01:06:34.000 And I get those messages.
01:06:36.000 And it's like, it's sad.
01:06:39.000 But for someone like her, her whole thing is, she's going on Jimmy Kimmel.
01:06:43.000 Jimmy Kimmel's audience is waning.
01:06:44.000 It's collapsing.
01:06:46.000 The word I was thinking of was anachronism.
01:06:49.000 She will be an 80-year-old woman, and there will be no one to listen to any of her cultural references because they won't care.
01:06:56.000 The cultural references and what is relevant culturally to young people will be dramatically different, and she will be a weird, anachronistic personality.
01:07:04.000 I would not wish this curse on my worst enemies, but it's coming for the liberals, because this is the world they choose to live in.
01:07:10.000 I think she embodies what she was preached to when she was a young woman, and things obviously changed.
01:07:15.000 Feminism and the way we treat women in our society has obviously changed, and their role in society has obviously changed, and it seems she completely bought into the liberal of feminists.
01:07:26.000 I mean, but there were feminists who had families.
01:07:27.000 Real quick, this is an important distinction.
01:07:29.000 This video is going viral now, but it is an old video.
01:07:33.000 What was it dated?
01:07:34.000 The video is actually from the 2020 election.
01:07:36.000 That's why it says flashback.
01:07:37.000 Because initially 50 Cent was going to endorse Trump, then at the end he was like, no, I don't like that guy.
01:07:41.000 I'm going to endorse Biden.
01:07:43.000 I don't think 50 Cent, any of these black celebrities endorsing Trump isn't doing a thing.
01:07:48.000 I mean, the thing is, there were feminists way back in the day who did have children.
01:07:52.000 Even now, you know, 50% of all women say that they were raised by a mom who identified as a feminist, right?
01:07:58.000 But I think with Chelsea Handler, feminism and women's role in society, the narrative that's there is part of it.
01:08:04.000 The other part is just a rising culture of selfishness, right?
01:08:09.000 To me, that's really more than feminism.
01:08:11.000 That's what Chelsea Handler embodies to me.
01:08:15.000 Well, if I had children, I wouldn't be able to do the things I wanted to when I wanted to.
01:08:20.000 It would be the death of the life that revolves around me.
01:08:23.000 And that's true at a certain point when you have kids, right?
01:08:26.000 But there is something more about building a family that is worth it that I think speaks to the human experience and to the soul.
01:08:32.000 And I think a lot of our culture right now really revolves around sort of self-obsession.
01:08:37.000 We have Instagram accounts that are telling you how much people like you.
01:08:40.000 You're constantly thinking about how you are viewed by other people.
01:08:43.000 What should you be doing?
01:08:45.000 It's about the self more than it is about the community.
01:08:47.000 And, you know, I think conservatives talk more about this than I feel like left-wing causes do.
01:08:52.000 Left-wing causes will say like, oh, it's good for the community, but what they really mean is the individuals that make up this collective group that sort of think they have something in common.
01:08:59.000 Whereas I think when conservatives talk about community, it really is about this thing that you are actively participating in and contributing to.
01:09:05.000 And part of that is having family.
01:09:06.000 Part of that is also just being active in your community. I was listening to
01:09:09.000 something about Rockefeller and the fact that like he was a workaholic, but
01:09:14.000 also he taught Sunday school, right? This is something very important. And that's fascinating, right? Because he
01:09:19.000 obviously felt a devotion to the children that were being raised
01:09:22.000 in a religion that he also felt devotion to like, all this guy
01:09:25.000 did was work and teach Sunday school. Fascinating.
01:09:27.000 I just think we've got to get back to the basics and restore
01:09:30.000 America to look like the Handmaid's Tale.
01:09:35.000 I always thought those robes were really cool in the TV shows.
01:09:37.000 They look kind of glamorous to me.
01:09:39.000 I'm not going to pretend I've seen The Hens Maybe.
01:09:41.000 I was kidding, by the way, but it's a few episodes.
01:09:41.000 Have you seen The Hens Maybe?
01:09:44.000 All I've known of it was in the Women's March.
01:09:47.000 They used to dress in the costumes and now it's like a common symbol.
01:09:50.000 I get why you don't like the head covering, but the red robe is cool, man.
01:09:54.000 I thought that was kind of fun.
01:09:56.000 Wasn't the story like it's like the world, like a war happened and the human population was decimated.
01:10:02.000 It's war, but also, like, the fertility rate collapses, from what I know about it.
01:10:07.000 People stop being able to have children, and there's an idea that it's, like, environmental issues, which, like, the Gilead Society ultimately ends up kind of seeming to solve.
01:10:16.000 Is that what it is about?
01:10:18.000 From what I watched, like, mid... I just watched the first two seasons.
01:10:21.000 Is it on Netflix?
01:10:22.000 I'll report back.
01:10:23.000 I'll put it this way.
01:10:24.000 I can't speak to the Handmaid's Tale, I've never actually seen it.
01:10:25.000 I've only seen snippets.
01:10:27.000 But in the general idea of a fertility rate collapse, population decimation, and humanity on the verge of extinction, any civilization that condemns the idea that women should have kids in that scenario deserves to go extinct.
01:10:42.000 Like pandas?
01:10:44.000 I don't know why we're trying to save them.
01:10:45.000 Because they look funny, I guess?
01:10:47.000 They're so cute!
01:10:48.000 Yeah, the baby ones are absolutely cute.
01:10:51.000 Dude, if a species won't reproduce, the species ceases to exist.
01:10:54.000 I love those videos where it's like the giant mom panda, we say you're holding its baby and then a caregiver will come like handed an apple and they'll be like, wow, steal this child.
01:11:04.000 Like, yeah, you guys are not doing great here.
01:11:07.000 Nope.
01:11:07.000 And that's probably why they're going to go extinct.
01:11:10.000 But weird.
01:11:11.000 We're seeing this play out in many countries.
01:11:13.000 We're there below.
01:11:14.000 Japan, dude.
01:11:15.000 Especially in Asia.
01:11:16.000 South Korea, Toronto.
01:11:17.000 Let me pull this up.
01:11:18.000 We got this story from CNBC, actually.
01:11:20.000 Swipe right, please.
01:11:21.000 Japanese officials push dating apps in effort to boost birth rates.
01:11:25.000 The fertility rate in Japan is apocalyptic.
01:11:28.000 It is the worst we've seen.
01:11:30.000 People don't realize that in one generation, your country can cease to exist.
01:11:35.000 If the fertility rate drops to a certain level, like right now, what are we at in the United States, like 1.3 or something?
01:11:42.000 Or no, no, no, are we less than that?
01:11:44.000 With birth rates, but I think we have net positive immigration that puts us... That doesn't count.
01:11:51.000 I'm specifically talking about fertility.
01:11:53.000 Imagine this.
01:11:55.000 Imagine the entire generation has no kids.
01:12:00.000 That means in 20 years, there will be no 20-year-olds.
01:12:04.000 That means in 40 years, there will be no 40-year-olds.
01:12:07.000 And that means the aging, retiring generation, there will be no one coming next.
01:12:14.000 They will eventually lose the ability to work, and then they will starve and die, and there will be nothing.
01:12:19.000 Japan is facing ever increasingly something like this.
01:12:25.000 United States is 1.84.
01:12:27.000 Okay.
01:12:28.000 Oh, not bad.
01:12:29.000 Fertility?
01:12:30.000 Fertility.
01:12:30.000 Fertility, right.
01:12:31.000 Wow.
01:12:31.000 I mean, that's not good though, right?
01:12:34.000 Remember, replacement is like 2.3.
01:12:35.000 Yeah, but in like China, they're at like 0.9.
01:12:37.000 So we're doubling some of these guys.
01:12:39.000 Oh, wow.
01:12:40.000 Good.
01:12:40.000 I'm so glad the entire world's about to collapse.
01:12:42.000 Japan is at 1.3.
01:12:43.000 Wow.
01:12:45.000 Wow, man.
01:12:48.000 Their current population is 125 million.
01:12:50.000 South Korea, I'm on the CIA's website, is 1.12.
01:12:53.000 Wow.
01:12:56.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:12:57.000 Like, it'll all just fall away.
01:12:59.000 Yeah.
01:12:59.000 And especially for Japan and South Korea, which are really, have a strong sense of culture and identity that is passed down through your family and through your community.
01:13:07.000 Like, if you don't produce people, you're literally everything about your culture that's unique goes away.
01:13:14.000 Yeah.
01:13:15.000 It's wild.
01:13:16.000 I think when people talk about, you know, like, oh, it should be women's choice of kids and whatever else, like, I don't want people who hate children to have them.
01:13:22.000 On the other hand, like, it matters if your country is having its own children.
01:13:27.000 Yeah.
01:13:27.000 South Korea is 0.81 births per woman as of 2021.
01:13:32.000 I think we're going to have a reckoning and have to deal with the consequences of technology and the consequences of feminism that we might have initially thought were good things.
01:13:41.000 For example, things like birth control obviously make less babies around, the ubiquity of abortion, things like that, birth control.
01:13:52.000 Teen pregnancy isn't a thing anymore.
01:13:53.000 A couple of decades ago, it was pretty common.
01:13:57.000 The unintended consequences to that, although it seems kind of obvious, is less children.
01:14:03.000 And where does that lead us?
01:14:05.000 People don't end up having children or as many children as they would have had down the line.
01:14:10.000 This is why I think that the decades-long attack on the family is such a bad thing.
01:14:14.000 Like the idea that the government would sort of make social services that replace the role that the father traditionally used to have.
01:14:19.000 The idea that we would tell women, actually, it's really important that you're in the workforce and the labor that you do at home is not as important.
01:14:26.000 I mean, remember, we had a Bureau of Home Economics at one point because we believed that the home and the family unit was central to our economy.
01:14:33.000 And instead, we've made it about the individual and about keeping women and men in the workforce with as few dependents as possible.
01:14:39.000 And I just think that that was obviously not about the welfare of our culture.
01:14:44.000 It was about servitude to the state.
01:14:47.000 And creating consumers.
01:14:49.000 Yeah, it's awful.
01:14:50.000 And again, so I really think Melania Trump, you know, should she be first lady again, which I really hope she is.
01:14:55.000 She's really good at it.
01:14:56.000 We should forget, be best.
01:14:57.000 We should make family first, be her initiative.
01:15:00.000 We should talk about how important it is to value and cherish your family because it's part of our culture.
01:15:05.000 And that includes having children, but also like being there for your grandparents, being there for your parents as they age.
01:15:10.000 Like we should stop making it about ourselves only.
01:15:14.000 It should be about the community, which I think I really, really believe starts with the family.
01:15:18.000 We've really come on such a turbulent time socially, culturally, with how the genders view each other.
01:15:24.000 Some people don't even know what gender they are, and the consequences of that... We just have lost people who need strong families to guide them through life.
01:15:31.000 Lack of religion, religion decreasing in our society, women out... not out-earning in all cases, but women matching how much men make, make marriages more difficult for whatever reason that we could dive into, but there's so many of these small things.
01:15:46.000 Christina, what do you think?
01:15:47.000 Yeah, I mean, I think more women are graduating from college, too.
01:15:50.000 I'm very concerned about, like, young men, the future of young men, because I feel like they're checking out from society.
01:15:57.000 They're also checking out from dating.
01:15:59.000 So we have a culture that treats them like they are A burden.
01:16:04.000 Not even just like they're not an equal part.
01:16:07.000 People actively treat, especially young straight men, as if they are society's problem.
01:16:11.000 I think that's awful.
01:16:12.000 I'm conflicted because in and of itself, many of these things aren't bad.
01:16:16.000 Women graduating at higher rates than men isn't necessarily a bad thing, but some of these unintended consequences that we're seeing as a result of them leading to the decline in births, which is, I don't think, something that we thought was a problem 30 years ago.
01:16:30.000 Right.
01:16:31.000 is the issue and then how to deal with that.
01:16:33.000 Because again, I guess we don't want to, you know, there's no way to put the ketchup back in the bottle or something once this is out of the bag.
01:16:40.000 Toothpaste back in the tube.
01:16:41.000 Toothpaste out of the tube.
01:16:42.000 Once this is out of the bottle, we can't, it's very hard.
01:16:44.000 I think it's easier to encourage women to have less children than it is to encourage women who have few children to have many more.
01:16:51.000 So.
01:16:52.000 It's just cultural.
01:16:54.000 We were talking about this this morning and we talked about the culture war.
01:16:58.000 If society is showing young women all the movies are women doing masculine things.
01:17:06.000 You've got either men as the heroes or women as the heroes but even when women are heroes they're doing things associated with masculinity.
01:17:15.000 What's going to happen?
01:17:17.000 Humans desire Compliments.
01:17:20.000 Humans want to know that they're doing the right thing.
01:17:24.000 They want commendation.
01:17:25.000 So for young guys, go back 200 years.
01:17:29.000 What do they want to do?
01:17:30.000 They wanted to join up.
01:17:33.000 I want to join the Continental Army.
01:17:34.000 You know, go back to 7076.
01:17:36.000 They really wanted to fight.
01:17:37.000 They wanted to be a part of something.
01:17:38.000 They wanted to be the great adventurer.
01:17:41.000 They wanted to be known for the great works they did.
01:17:44.000 and women wanted to raise families and they were concerned about who they were going to marry and
01:17:47.000 how they were going to have a family. Why? Because when the women would go hang out with women,
01:17:51.000 the women were all talking about the great things they're doing with family and so the younger
01:17:54.000 women are like, it's being reinforced in you if you want the compliments, if you want people to
01:17:59.000 cheer for you, it is these things.
01:18:01.000 We then inundated young people with media of everything you do that is good must be the masculine role and not the feminine role.
01:18:09.000 So now you have a bunch of young women who want to be CEOs and girl bosses instead of being moms.
01:18:13.000 Girl boss?
01:18:13.000 Gross.
01:18:14.000 Or would there be a soul-to-fall stream where they could do both, which they can't?
01:18:18.000 Yeah.
01:18:18.000 Oh, absolutely not.
01:18:19.000 And the insulting thing to me is that feminism destroys femininity.
01:18:24.000 It tells women that the female role in society is a bad thing.
01:18:30.000 And so they internalize it and they view it that way.
01:18:33.000 So when you bring up gender roles and you say something like, women should be, you know, at the home with the family, they're like, how dare you say that?
01:18:42.000 Why is that a bad thing?
01:18:43.000 Why is it a negative to say that the women are more apt than men for protecting the family and men are good externally and women are good internally?
01:18:53.000 Did you see this thing with Jason Kelsey's wife?
01:18:56.000 Someone referred to her as a homemaker and he came out and was like, we're equal partners of the home.
01:19:01.000 She does take care of her house.
01:19:02.000 It's like rejecting this term homemaker.
01:19:04.000 I don't understand why homemaker has to be a dirty word.
01:19:06.000 It should be good.
01:19:10.000 I don't understand why feminism was able to convince generations of women that being told the things that you are naturally inclined to do, the things you are interested in, actually was somehow saying that you were stupid or weak.
01:19:20.000 Like, I just don't understand why women bought that other than the fact that they tend to be deeply insecure.
01:19:25.000 And I don't think that they were raised by women who were able to say, like, the natural traits that you have are positive and they contribute to society in a great way.
01:19:34.000 You should like yourself the way you are.
01:19:35.000 It's similar to what I think is one of the long-term effects of birth control, which is that it trains women to treat their bodies like the enemy.
01:19:43.000 that their hormones that are naturally supposed to occur are actually this big inconvenience and
01:19:47.000 they stop you in your tracks and whatever else. Like all of these things, these two different
01:19:53.000 things, the cultural but also the medical intervention on the things that women naturally do
01:19:57.000 told women that they are supposed to operate differently in society than they are trained.
01:20:00.000 No wonder they're all anxious and depressed.
01:20:02.000 Everybody at Timcast knows what happens when Allison's out of town.
01:20:06.000 Well, we get a lot of food delivered.
01:20:09.000 It's really great.
01:20:10.000 It's like, I order cheeseburgers and... I'll come into the studio and Tim will be like, yeah, I ate, you know, crackers and a can of tuna for dinner.
01:20:18.000 Like, he needs Allison.
01:20:20.000 I'm lucky.
01:20:21.000 So it'll be like, I'll be like, hey guys, a big food order is coming.
01:20:24.000 And then they're like, oh, where'd Allison go?
01:20:26.000 And then, uh, see, I would only admit this because Allison is here, but, you know, she went to go visit family, and for dinner I was dipping, uh, I was dipping, uh, daled bacon in cheese sauce.
01:20:37.000 I took the cheese sauce out of the fridge, I microwaved it, I pulled the bacon out, and I was just dipping it.
01:20:40.000 That was dinner.
01:20:41.000 And so I have no problem pointing out that when it comes to reading the news and pulling up stories and putting the show together and all that, I do a really great job, apparently.
01:20:51.000 And when it comes to, you know, the house, I don't.
01:20:56.000 I have no idea what's going on.
01:20:57.000 I don't know how the washing machine works for the most part.
01:20:59.000 Obviously, I can turn it on and make it work, but Allison has everything running like a well-oiled machine.
01:21:04.000 I don't see why.
01:21:07.000 I don't understand why.
01:21:08.000 Actually, I take that back.
01:21:09.000 I'm using it as a turn of phrase.
01:21:11.000 I totally get it.
01:21:12.000 Malthusians in the 70s wanted to reduce population.
01:21:16.000 They got their wish and now the world is facing a serious economic crisis and existential crisis.
01:21:21.000 So they wanted to convince young women to be like men and put them in the workplace.
01:21:27.000 Will you miss South Korea when it's gone?
01:21:29.000 When its population has collapsed?
01:21:31.000 Yes.
01:21:32.000 I think we all will, right?
01:21:33.000 And South Korea needs you, it sounds like.
01:21:34.000 Well, it's not even South Korea.
01:21:35.000 It's just the fact that there are countries that will just cease to be as we know them.
01:21:40.000 They will just not be there because ultimately their populations decided that maintaining being a population wasn't worth it.
01:21:47.000 I think a solution here is that conservatives or some conservative-minded women need to reclaim feminism.
01:21:53.000 I believe in the past it wasn't always completely defined by leftism, to the point now when I think of feminism, I'm thinking of people who believe that sex work is real work, like that seems to be their top of issue mind, and that all women are real women, and that trans women are real women.
01:22:10.000 That seems to be this, I don't know, second, third, First, second, or third, or fourth wave feminism, but in the past I believe feminism was claimed by the women in the temperance movement or something like that.
01:22:24.000 No, no, I don't agree.
01:22:26.000 I think you're right, but I think we should only just keep doing what we're doing because liberals are effectively removing themselves by choice from modern politics.
01:22:39.000 It looks like they're removing everybody.
01:22:40.000 No, no, no, hold on.
01:22:42.000 The fertility rate among liberals is really low.
01:22:45.000 Among conservatives it's a bit higher, but I still believe it's below replacement.
01:22:49.000 I'm happy with Christian conservatives having a bunch of kids.
01:22:52.000 Like, the two guests, the two Jeremy's on The Culture War, each had five kids.
01:22:55.000 And I'm like, that makes me feel good.
01:22:58.000 That's twice your placement rate.
01:22:59.000 There we go.
01:23:00.000 And then, you know, they're a few years away of themselves from having grandkids, too.
01:23:00.000 Exactly.
01:23:04.000 And I'm just like, I'm pretty confident that we win just based off of multiplication.
01:23:10.000 And so if, right now, conservative women already want to be moms, recognize these issues, accept the arguments, and have good relationships with their husbands and their significant others, then you don't gotta do anything.
01:23:23.000 Like, you're not going to go to a liberal and shame her on having kids.
01:23:26.000 Right, well, I think the other part that, you know, conservative women should be happy about is, like, typically if you're a conservative woman and you're dating a conservative guy, he values the fact that you want to have kids and also he wants to be a dad and have children.
01:23:36.000 Like, one of the messages that I think a lot of young women get is like, oh, well, you'll be doing it by yourself and he's going to be off doing whatever, playing video games, not being helpful.
01:23:45.000 And, like, the reality is, like, all of the nice, helpful families that I know, like, It's – it is an equal partnership between men and women.
01:23:53.000 They just don't do exactly the same thing and I think especially conservative men recognize like the work that goes into raising children that they don't necessarily do because they're outside the home.
01:24:02.000 I think it's really dysfunctional couples that – but by this lie that like ultimately men – I mean if you're dating like a man child, like of course he's never going to step up.
01:24:12.000 But that's kind of on progressive women who opt into those relationships.
01:24:16.000 Here's the agreement, okay?
01:24:18.000 I will go out and I will drag an elk back by its neck and lay it before my family and the mother will be there protecting the children while I am fighting the elk.
01:24:29.000 In all seriousness, I'll go to the grocery store and pick up some fresh elk and bring it home and then we'll have dinner together.
01:24:34.000 My family in Canada, my aunt was a forensic psychiatrist for a long time.
01:24:38.000 She's really successful and she tells this story about how her sons and her husband went out hunting and they killed a deer or something and then they brought it back and they're like, mom, can you clean this?
01:24:48.000 And she's like, because she's got a medical background, she's an actual doctor, like she literally cleaned and cut up the deer.
01:24:54.000 This is actually how a lot of families function for a long time now.
01:24:57.000 Obviously this was just like something they were doing not necessarily for food but it's like there's a relationship between the two things that these people contribute and I think that's like what we forget and what we were told especially because the narrative is that men and women are enemies like this is what's invaded our culture.
01:25:15.000 I read this thing that said the reason women or at least the reason why there's a trope that women love shopping is that it is gathering.
01:25:24.000 For real.
01:25:25.000 Women going together to a place and looking at the brightly colored things and then picking the things out that they bring back to the home they're excited for.
01:25:33.000 And men are goal-oriented, dopamine-triggered, jumping off of buildings and running and playing sports because that's the hunt.
01:25:40.000 Well, I think it's all – I mean it's – we're wired to do different things and so naturally some of the ways it works out in modern society.
01:25:46.000 Like with Allison, like yeah, she's good at managing the home but also like she wants you to be healthy and be able to work hard.
01:25:51.000 So of course she's worried about what you're eating.
01:25:53.000 Like there is a reason that men and women are complementary.
01:25:58.000 Like the stereotype – we always saw a video where it's like the guy walking around, the internal monologue is like exits and creepy guy and whatever else and the girl is like da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
01:26:07.000 That works because she relies on him to contribute something that, like, in the home she might contribute differently.
01:26:11.000 Like, it's supposed to be a symbiotic relationship.
01:26:14.000 I don't think that that's bad.
01:26:15.000 I think it's weird that this is some sort of threat to feminists out there, that your natural tendencies would be weaponized against you.
01:26:22.000 That's what I'm saying, like, conservative women don't need to be told any of this.
01:26:25.000 They know it, they live it, they feel it themselves.
01:26:27.000 There's no guy who's going to come to them and explain it to them.
01:26:29.000 They're going to be like, uh-huh, and?
01:26:30.000 Liberal women will reject it outright.
01:26:33.000 So it's just like, okay, let's just have more conservatives have more kids, and then in 20 years, in 40 years, this country is going to be conservative.
01:26:39.000 I think the one factor that we've been overlooking here is...
01:26:43.000 Religiosity, level of religiosity is what I believe is most closely correlated with the number of children you have.
01:26:49.000 And we've been decreasing in religiosity by a ton over the years.
01:26:53.000 And even if you call yourself religious today, you're less religious than somebody who called themselves that a decade ago, or 20 years ago, or 30 years ago.
01:27:01.000 And I don't think we're seeing that trend turn around.
01:27:04.000 And as long as that is the case, yes, conservatives may have three kids on average instead of the one and a half that liberals may have.
01:27:11.000 But it's not the five, six or seven that's really thrusting us forward and not just making us just past the line of replacement.
01:27:22.000 So until we have a reckoning too with that, because even in my understanding, I live next to a very Jewish, Hasidic Jewish community.
01:27:29.000 They all have a ton of kids.
01:27:30.000 They all have not one or two, but seven or eight.
01:27:33.000 Mormons, when I passed through in Pennsylvania, they don't have one or two kids.
01:27:36.000 They have seven or eight.
01:27:37.000 One of the fastest growing communities in our country.
01:27:42.000 Religiosity is what's heavily linked here, and we need to deal with that reckoning, because people are only becoming less religious, and I don't think it's stopping.
01:27:51.000 It's not even slowing.
01:27:52.000 Soon enough, we're going to be in a mostly secular country.
01:27:55.000 Yeah, and look how quickly this has happened.
01:27:57.000 My dad was like one of eight kids.
01:27:59.000 My grandfather was one of ten kids.
01:28:02.000 My grandmother, we have like this picture of her, and she's got 78 people.
01:28:07.000 It's our cousins, grandkids, her kids.
01:28:11.000 Um the whole family and I just feel like that's not going to be a thing anymore of like a a woman like matriarch with her whole family of 78 people behind her and like families with 10 kids 7 kids except in these communities that you're talking about.
01:28:25.000 Well they'll be kids who grow up without cousins right?
01:28:28.000 They'll be the only kid that maybe all of their their parents and their like siblings had like that that's so strange to me.
01:28:33.000 My cousins were a huge part of my life growing up.
01:28:35.000 I mean the collapse of family is sad.
01:28:39.000 It's a loss.
01:28:40.000 And I think that again – I think you're right.
01:28:43.000 It's a religious participation.
01:28:44.000 I also think it's the selling of like your career is ultimately what makes you who you
01:28:48.000 are.
01:28:49.000 This culture of workers and whether it's to have more consumers, whether it's a socialist
01:28:52.000 thing or whether it's whatever it is, this drive – because when you see about the studies
01:28:57.000 about South Korea and Japan, often they'll say like, well, women are opting to stay in
01:29:01.000 their careers.
01:29:02.000 They say I've gotten this education, I'm working hard.
01:29:03.000 I don't want to derail it.
01:29:04.000 I'd rather have my own money and live my life for myself.
01:29:08.000 And I think that that sale of like your professional acumen and your professional degrees and your
01:29:16.000 accomplishments there are the be-all and end-all of your life.
01:29:19.000 To me it parallels religious – the collapse of religious participation because religion
01:29:23.000 tells you like – especially Christianity, your life goes on after this.
01:29:27.000 You're living for eternity, et cetera, et cetera.
01:29:29.000 And so you don't – You have to prioritize things outside your job.
01:29:32.000 When your life is your job, of course you're like, well, having a family takes away from that.
01:29:36.000 What is it?
01:29:37.000 Multiply and be fruitful?
01:29:38.000 Be fruitful and multiply?
01:29:39.000 Something like that?
01:29:41.000 Do you feel like the conversations for women about having kids or getting married have changed in the time that you've, you know, been growing up?
01:29:41.000 I think it's different.
01:29:48.000 Oh yeah, definitely.
01:29:50.000 I don't think...
01:29:51.000 We didn't have those classes like the home ec classes and stuff.
01:29:54.000 We did in Catholic school, but not in public school.
01:29:57.000 I think that's a big part of it.
01:29:58.000 But I also think technology plays a huge role here because think about like what your grandparents did every single night for fun.
01:30:05.000 They actually hung out with people.
01:30:07.000 They played cards.
01:30:08.000 They weren't watching Netflix.
01:30:09.000 They weren't on their phones all the time.
01:30:11.000 They didn't have dating apps, so they met people going out in their community.
01:30:16.000 Everybody stays inside now.
01:30:17.000 I think technology is a huge problem.
01:30:20.000 Phones, people being on their phones.
01:30:24.000 They didn't have birth control.
01:30:24.000 They didn't have condoms.
01:30:26.000 It was a crazy time.
01:30:26.000 Abortion was illegal.
01:30:28.000 People had sex more because they weren't on their phones.
01:30:32.000 You had nothing to do.
01:30:33.000 That was what you did.
01:30:35.000 You'd have the kid.
01:30:36.000 Unfortunately, things have changed now.
01:30:38.000 But that's interesting, right?
01:30:39.000 Yeah.
01:30:40.000 We have basically put ourselves in a weird abstinence because it's technology-centered socialization.
01:30:45.000 It's weird.
01:30:45.000 Take away your technology, though.
01:30:47.000 Take away your phone and see what you do for two days or what you want to do.
01:30:51.000 I think the difference is 50 years ago, you're in high school, you go to prom with your date, you knock up your date, she doesn't abort it, you shotgun marry her, and then have four more kids.
01:31:02.000 Nowadays, you go to prom with your date, she's on birth control forever, if that doesn't work, then she aborts, and then you both go to college.
01:31:12.000 You go your separate ways.
01:31:13.000 There's no relationship.
01:31:14.000 And then maybe a decade down the line you guys get married when you're both 30.
01:31:19.000 She's on SSRIs.
01:31:19.000 She's on birth control.
01:31:21.000 She's on anti-psychotics.
01:31:24.000 I mean... And then maybe she could have one child when she decides to settle down.
01:31:28.000 I got some numbers for you.
01:31:29.000 Okay.
01:31:29.000 So I did some rudimentary chat GPT math.
01:31:32.000 I asked it what the current fertility rates among liberals and conservatives were.
01:31:37.000 I asked how many babies were born.
01:31:40.000 Based on the fertility rate numbers between liberal conservatives, to calculate how many of those births that were just born were liberal or conservative, give me the number, I then said, assuming the fertility rate remains static, how many children will be born of each group in 20 years?
01:31:59.000 I then said, I asked, what is the average age at which a person is having children?
01:32:05.000 It said 27 or 28.
01:32:07.000 I said, considering that, calculate the next 20 years with the cumulative effect of the next generation having additional children based on these fertility rates.
01:32:16.000 And the calculation is within 40 years, there will have been 76.68 million conservative births to 58.87 liberal births.
01:32:24.000 Wow.
01:32:26.000 Yeah.
01:32:27.000 Maybe conservatives just need to start picking up more wives like they do in the Middle East.
01:32:30.000 Well, I'm just saying, the point is, we're talking about in 40 years.
01:32:36.000 The Children of Conservatives will be 20 million, almost 2 to 1, liberals.
01:32:44.000 Well, not actually 2 to 1, but 20 million more.
01:32:46.000 It's a huge difference.
01:32:48.000 Yeah.
01:32:49.000 And I think, I mean, it doesn't, just because you were born to conservative parents, it doesn't guarantee that you'll grow up conservative.
01:32:53.000 On the other hand, you know, what a culture... Incredibly likely.
01:32:56.000 It's more likely, but also, like, what a cultural shift if you have more people having children and saying, like, I want a society that supports large families, people who have children, people that value family.
01:33:06.000 I mean, just the process of absorbing this change is incredible.
01:33:12.000 Oh, that's a good question, Tim, right there.
01:33:14.000 And what was the question?
01:33:15.000 What is the fertility rate among Christians versus atheists?
01:33:19.000 1.9 for Christians and 1.6 for atheists.
01:33:22.000 Oh, that's interesting.
01:33:24.000 I wonder how they define religious, too.
01:33:28.000 Because, again, levels of religiosity.
01:33:31.000 Everybody's a Christian.
01:33:32.000 There are tons of people who identify as Christian but aren't actually going to church.
01:33:38.000 Or if you're like loosely religious nowadays, or spiritual, you'll call yourself religious.
01:33:44.000 Agnostic was the highest growing religion at one point in the country, which is kind of crazy, you know?
01:33:49.000 Yeah, I feel like that trend... Look at this.
01:33:57.000 That can't be right.
01:33:57.000 That's wrong.
01:33:59.000 Christian births will be 92.36 million.
01:34:02.000 No, that's right.
01:34:03.000 The Mormons are booming.
01:34:05.000 So Christian births will be 92.36 million to unaffiliated at 39.96.
01:34:09.000 But the reason for that is this is a predominantly Christian nation, so there's already a 3 or 4 to 1 advantage among Christians for having kids.
01:34:18.000 So it's not just that their fertility rate is higher, it's that there's substantially more of them as it is.
01:34:24.000 So long as you instill your values in your children, there will be a whole lot of Christians in the next 40 years.
01:34:30.000 Should be interesting.
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01:34:48.000 TokenBlackGuy is the first in.
01:34:49.000 He says, howdy people!
01:34:50.000 Ooh, he beat Clint.
01:34:51.000 There's no Clint.
01:34:53.000 All right.
01:34:53.000 Barrett1313 says, not first.
01:34:55.000 When you go to Super Chats, I'm heading to that poker room you talked about.
01:34:58.000 Hope to see you at the table sometime.
01:35:00.000 Would be fun.
01:35:01.000 Yeah, Charlestown.
01:35:02.000 That's the local poker stop.
01:35:04.000 It is a small poker room.
01:35:06.000 A lot of retirees.
01:35:07.000 But on Friday and Saturday, the tourists come in to see the shows, and these people don't know how to play poker, and they basically give their money away.
01:35:15.000 All the all the rounders, they call them.
01:35:18.000 The people who make a living playing poker know that Friday and Saturday nights the best time to go down because some dude's gonna be drunk and be like, I don't care.
01:35:25.000 And they're gonna throw their money and you're gonna win it and then you're gonna pay your bills.
01:35:29.000 Good luck, sir, at the tables.
01:35:30.000 Good luck.
01:35:31.000 Steven says, says the further society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it or well.
01:35:37.000 Amen.
01:35:38.000 Yeah.
01:35:40.000 Let's grab some more.
01:35:43.000 Henry, back to play, says it's true.
01:35:45.000 It is an automatic granting of a judgment notwithstanding the verdict, or janov, which would set aside the jury conviction.
01:35:52.000 It would also be the end of the case because double jeopardy has attached.
01:35:56.000 Really?
01:35:58.000 Because he was convicted already and he can't be retried for a crime in which he was convicted?
01:36:03.000 Oh, I see.
01:36:03.000 This is not a hung jury or a mistrial.
01:36:06.000 This is a verdict was handed down after the fact.
01:36:11.000 That would be interesting, I don't know if that's true, but that actually might be their play.
01:36:16.000 They don't want Trump in jail, it will help him.
01:36:19.000 They've got him as a convicted felon.
01:36:21.000 Now they can come out and claim it's a technicality and this is BS and Trump's only- he's a convicted felon, he only got out because of a technical glitch!
01:36:28.000 Or something like that.
01:36:30.000 Especially considering the person's an obvious troll, they'll argue it was a court mistake.
01:36:34.000 That would be interesting.
01:36:36.000 The next couple weeks are going to be so weird, you know?
01:36:39.000 Let's lead up until July 11th.
01:36:41.000 It's just a weird, unpredictable time.
01:36:45.000 Yeah, definitely.
01:36:47.000 James B says, look up HR 8081.
01:36:48.000 So I want to look that up.
01:36:49.000 I don't know.
01:36:51.000 I don't know what that is.
01:36:52.000 HR8081.
01:36:53.000 The Emperor's Champion says, perhaps Comrade Judge Marchand saw the backlash in attempting
01:37:02.000 to save his butt.
01:37:03.000 That's assuming he can think straight and doesn't have TDS.
01:37:06.000 Or, if that is true, and they use this to effectively nullify and Trump can't be tried again, that would be a power play by them.
01:37:15.000 Because they're going to come out and say, we know Trump's guilty, but because of a technical error, they can't try him again, but we know he did it.
01:37:21.000 How is he getting away with this?
01:37:23.000 That's what they're gonna say.
01:37:25.000 So HR 8081 is denying infinite security and government resources allocated towards convicted and extremely dishonorable former protectees act, which is it's trying to strip service secret service away from Trump upon conviction.
01:37:40.000 This was Thompson.
01:37:43.000 Whoa.
01:37:43.000 What?
01:37:44.000 Filed in April.
01:37:45.000 Benny Thompson, Democrat from Mississippi.
01:37:48.000 They're trying to strip Secret Service from Trump.
01:37:50.000 I doubt it'll get anywhere.
01:37:51.000 It's been referred to the Judiciary Committee.
01:37:55.000 I don't think it'll go anywhere.
01:37:57.000 Manifested Destiny says it's the best of both worlds.
01:38:01.000 Mershawn gets out of sentencing Trump while still securing a conviction.
01:38:04.000 Then the Dems can say Trump got off on a technicality.
01:38:06.000 Yeah, see?
01:38:07.000 There you go.
01:38:07.000 He actually superchatted the 814 well before I even mentioned it, so... Yeah.
01:38:12.000 That'll be interesting.
01:38:16.000 This one a lot will enjoy.
01:38:18.000 Lane Michael says tunnels just found under the Rafah border from Gaza to Egypt.
01:38:22.000 Why isn't this getting any airtime? No way the USA didn't know.
01:38:25.000 Have you heard about all the tunnels under North Korea?
01:38:29.000 North Korea apparently has a crazy tunnel.
01:38:31.000 Tunnels to where?
01:38:33.000 To Palestine.
01:38:34.000 Right through the earth.
01:38:37.000 In Afghanistan too.
01:38:38.000 14,000 miles.
01:38:39.000 It's crazy.
01:38:40.000 In Afghanistan too, they were like, yeah, there are bunkers under the city and that's where Osama's hiding.
01:38:44.000 Yeah.
01:38:47.000 The resupply is likely coming to Hamas through Egypt, which has many sympathizers from the Muslim Brotherhood, but we could save all the Israel chat for another day.
01:38:57.000 Israel needs to completely invade Rafah, take care of Hamas, and honestly, look up north to Hezbollah, where there seems to be tensions rising.
01:39:06.000 Oh, that's gonna get hot.
01:39:07.000 So we could save that for another show.
01:39:09.000 Doc Holliday says, I'm a Timcast member.
01:39:11.000 I miss the old vlogs of you guys going to the liquor store and brewery, et cetera, shooting range.
01:39:15.000 Can you do more of those soon for the subscribers?
01:39:18.000 That's going to be the Boonies!
01:39:20.000 Boonies HQ on YouTube.
01:39:22.000 So a lot of that stuff is going to be the Boonies.
01:39:24.000 We are out in the Boonies.
01:39:25.000 And we are skating and doing lots of stuff.
01:39:28.000 We got a swimming hole.
01:39:29.000 And I wanted to go in the swimming hole, but they told me that it's likely full of parasites.
01:39:35.000 A swimming hole?
01:39:36.000 What is that?
01:39:37.000 It's a pond.
01:39:37.000 Oh, okay.
01:39:38.000 The one across the... It's not across.
01:39:39.000 That's someone else's property.
01:39:40.000 Oh, okay.
01:39:41.000 Our property has a very large swimming hole.
01:39:43.000 You know, West Virginia's been growing on me.
01:39:45.000 I've said a lot of bad things about West Virginia on this show in the past.
01:39:47.000 I wanted to say, to all you West Virginians, it's a really nice, scenic, it's a beautiful part of America.
01:39:54.000 A worthy state.
01:39:56.000 I think it's people.
01:39:57.000 I think it has a really unique culture and I like it a lot.
01:40:00.000 You guys deserve a better senator, though.
01:40:01.000 Anyway.
01:40:02.000 And we will get one.
01:40:04.000 And he knows it.
01:40:04.000 That's why he quit the Democratic Party.
01:40:06.000 We'll see.
01:40:07.000 Although, unfortunately, I think what... Who's going to end up as... So who's going to be the governor and who's going to be the new senator?
01:40:13.000 Jim Justice won the Senate primary.
01:40:15.000 Right.
01:40:15.000 So we're not getting a better one.
01:40:16.000 Sorry.
01:40:17.000 Never mind.
01:40:17.000 Did Patrick Morrisey win the primary for governor?
01:40:20.000 He's the current AG.
01:40:20.000 I don't know.
01:40:21.000 Did he?
01:40:21.000 Let me look.
01:40:22.000 And then you guys have Larry Hogan next door.
01:40:25.000 Oh, that is a crackpot.
01:40:26.000 Running for Senate.
01:40:27.000 But he's good for the Republican...
01:40:30.000 It would be a Republican like him who would quit in that seat.
01:40:33.000 I give Morsi C+.
01:40:36.000 I wish he did better.
01:40:37.000 I wish he did more.
01:40:38.000 But he's still pretty good.
01:40:39.000 He's done a lot of good things.
01:40:41.000 He's done a lot of good things.
01:40:41.000 You know, it is what it is.
01:40:42.000 Let's get him on the show.
01:40:43.000 Riley Moore for Congress.
01:40:45.000 Oh yeah, Riley winning is based.
01:40:46.000 That's based AF.
01:40:47.000 We need to shoot a skateboarding video with him in Congress, so.
01:40:50.000 Yeah.
01:40:51.000 Riley was here at the opening.
01:40:53.000 He did a kickflip fakie on the bank.
01:40:55.000 And I'm like, pretty sure it's the only... You know, it annoys me when they're like, I'm a congressman and I skate.
01:40:59.000 And then they don't really skate.
01:41:01.000 Like, remember... Who's an annoying guy who lost all of his races in Texas?
01:41:06.000 The guy who looks like... Dado!
01:41:09.000 He's like, I skateboard!
01:41:10.000 It's like, dude, you can stand on a skateboard.
01:41:12.000 How dare you?
01:41:12.000 Riley Moore actually can skate.
01:41:14.000 He rolled in, and you can tell that Riley was probably super good when he was younger, but he's like a dad now, and he's a state treasurer.
01:41:21.000 But he did what's called a fakie no-slide, or I guess you... I don't like calling it a half-cab no-slide, but he slid.
01:41:28.000 He jumped up and he slid on a ledge.
01:41:30.000 I was like, pretty good!
01:41:31.000 I was like, wow, he didn't get warmed up.
01:41:32.000 And he did a kickflip.
01:41:33.000 That means he jumped in the air.
01:41:34.000 The board flipped under his feet.
01:41:35.000 He landed back on it and rolled away, going backwards.
01:41:39.000 So with that, I'm like, there you go.
01:41:41.000 He's probably the only member of Congress who can actually skateboard.
01:41:44.000 But I was talking to him and I was like, yeah, but it's kind of obvious it's going to happen because millennials who grew up skateboarding are now at the age where they're entering politics.
01:41:52.000 So it's unsurprising that we'll start to see more of this.
01:41:55.000 The Skateboarders Caucus is going to be crazy then.
01:41:56.000 I'm excited to see that.
01:41:57.000 Oh, dude, shout out to Mikey Taylor, one of the greatest skateboarders ever, who is a Republican city councilman in, I think, Thousand Oaks, California.
01:42:04.000 Really?
01:42:05.000 Yeah, I love to hear it, man.
01:42:06.000 It's amazing to, you know, like I'm growing up and watching him skate and he's one of the best.
01:42:10.000 And then one day someone was like, you know that he's a Republican city councilman?
01:42:13.000 I was like, no way.
01:42:14.000 That's amazing.
01:42:16.000 And he's awesome.
01:42:17.000 I mean, he's one of the best skateboarders ever, so.
01:42:19.000 I'm glad you're being represented in the government, Tim.
01:42:22.000 I mean, I think he's in Thousand Oaks.
01:42:24.000 I follow his content.
01:42:25.000 I don't really pay attention to his political stuff.
01:42:27.000 I wonder if Congress would kick you out for shredding on the steps of Congress out there, Mr. Moore.
01:42:32.000 No.
01:42:32.000 No, because a guy had gay sex in the Senate building.
01:42:35.000 That's so true.
01:42:36.000 Whatever.
01:42:37.000 He got fired, though, didn't he?
01:42:38.000 And he took a video and picture of it, too.
01:42:40.000 I feel like that's... He didn't really do it.
01:42:42.000 He took video of it to send in his groups to brag and be... Yep.
01:42:47.000 Degenerate.
01:42:48.000 Anyway.
01:42:48.000 Yeah.
01:42:52.000 All right, let's change the subject.
01:42:53.000 Mike Anderson says, as a Michael Anderson, we disavow the transabled-ish poster.
01:42:58.000 We like our Mike Anderson astronauts and pro athletes better.
01:43:01.000 Maybe it was this guy who left the comment.
01:43:03.000 It might have been this guy.
01:43:03.000 I don't know, he disavowed.
01:43:05.000 Trying to cover his bases.
01:43:06.000 He disavowed.
01:43:08.000 Now that he sees the heat's on, oh, the judge sent letters.
01:43:10.000 It's like, it could be any of Mike Anderson's.
01:43:12.000 We don't know!
01:43:13.000 Proud Zionist says, it's ironic we get anti-gun Dems on gun charges and not the other laws they break.
01:43:19.000 This basically comes down to not being political charged.
01:43:22.000 If this makes Dems against background checks even better.
01:43:27.000 We've got to get rid of background checks because you see how they weaponize it against Hunter Biden?
01:43:31.000 It's true.
01:43:32.000 How could they do this to Hunter Biden?
01:43:34.000 It's the Biden DOJ as well, but he's going to get off in Wilmington.
01:43:38.000 There's no way a jury will find him guilty there.
01:43:40.000 That's my professional legal opinion.
01:43:45.000 Vincent Current says, Vermont GOP rules bar it from promoting any candidate who is a convicted felon.
01:43:51.000 I saw that.
01:43:52.000 That's cool.
01:43:53.000 Oh my goodness.
01:43:54.000 Is Trump worried about Vermont?
01:43:54.000 I wonder if they'll change their... I don't know that the Republican stronghold of Vermont is much to worry about.
01:44:00.000 Virginia's a swing state now.
01:44:02.000 This is the latest polling that came out.
01:44:04.000 It's been changed to toss-up.
01:44:06.000 Was it Northam who won there not too long ago in a special... No, Yunkin.
01:44:11.000 Northam lost.
01:44:12.000 He was the blackface pro-abortion-after-birth guy.
01:44:16.000 Yeah, that doesn't really fly well.
01:44:17.000 I only caught up with him, huh?
01:44:18.000 Yeah, you can only be elected to public office and do blackface if you're Justin Trudeau in Canada.
01:44:22.000 Junkin was also elected during the CRT time, which we don't hear much about anymore, but I remember when there was a reckoning with that.
01:44:28.000 That's... Junkin kind of rode that wave.
01:44:30.000 We'll see if... I think it's two-year term.
01:44:32.000 We'll see if he gets re-elected.
01:44:34.000 Was it Northam?
01:44:35.000 He was the one where he didn't know if he was the Klan member or the guy in blackface?
01:44:38.000 Or just didn't say.
01:44:39.000 It was rough.
01:44:39.000 He didn't want to admit which.
01:44:41.000 He was like, I don't know which one's worse.
01:44:42.000 Which one do you... would you rather be?
01:44:44.000 I think blackface is better than Klan member, because Klan members, like...
01:44:49.000 You're dressed up as a Klan member.
01:44:51.000 I could be wrong.
01:44:52.000 I don't know.
01:44:53.000 We have to poll the progressive.
01:44:54.000 Which one is worse?
01:44:55.000 I don't think there's a way out.
01:44:57.000 This is a man on the street in New York for you.
01:44:59.000 Hannah-Claire, which are you preferring?
01:45:02.000 The Klan or Blackface?
01:45:04.000 Yeah, which one do you like more?
01:45:06.000 Which one?
01:45:06.000 Yeah.
01:45:08.000 Which one do you relate with?
01:45:09.000 Do a documentary.
01:45:10.000 He's a fan.
01:45:13.000 No, I honestly think you have to pull progressives, right?
01:45:15.000 Like, I think that it's not up to me.
01:45:19.000 I'm not the one offended by any of this.
01:45:21.000 I think you have to ask people, like, which one is worse?
01:45:23.000 I'd say distasteful to dress up as a KKK member more than blackface.
01:45:28.000 Christina?
01:45:29.000 Yes, I don't have an opinion on this.
01:45:31.000 Although I will say, for the one in the KKK hood, is he representing, like, the FBI here?
01:45:37.000 That's true!
01:45:39.000 I don't know, so I'm not sure.
01:45:42.000 Let's go.
01:45:44.000 Let's read some more.
01:45:46.000 What have we here?
01:45:49.000 Devin True says, Russia is a bad actor, and we are antagonizing them with Cuban missile crisis action in Ukraine.
01:45:55.000 Kennedy stated Soviet offensive weapons fired from Cuba would be an act of war yet here we are.
01:45:59.000 Yep.
01:46:01.000 No question.
01:46:02.000 It's insane.
01:46:03.000 And the the deep states are trying to trick people into thinking we're not involved.
01:46:08.000 Yeah, right, dude.
01:46:11.000 I think the idea that they're trying to find a way to not put Trump in jail and get out of this makes sense.
01:46:15.000 Because what do they do?
01:46:16.000 If Trump goes to jail, he's going to get $2 billion overnight.
01:46:18.000 It's going to be nuts.
01:46:19.000 See if there was a drop in money given to a daughter's firm.
01:46:22.000 I think the idea that they're trying to find a way to not put Trump in jail and get out
01:46:28.000 of this makes sense because what do they do?
01:46:31.000 If Trump goes to jail, he's going to get $2 billion overnight.
01:46:35.000 It's going to be nuts.
01:46:36.000 If they send him to an island, he'd take over and get elected on the island.
01:46:41.000 It would be like, he's too dangerous to be left alone.
01:46:43.000 He must go to the island.
01:46:45.000 And then they think they got him four years later.
01:46:46.000 We see a ship on the horizon and it's like a wood craft that was manufactured from the trees on the island.
01:46:52.000 It'd be like a Napoleon thing where they send him off to some island.
01:46:55.000 Yeah, we'll never see him.
01:46:56.000 And then he comes back, raises an arm.
01:46:57.000 Anyway, I don't want to, that sounds like an insurrection.
01:47:00.000 He's got a bow and arrow.
01:47:01.000 Oh, we're not allowed to raise armies anymore?
01:47:03.000 This country's so oppressive.
01:47:05.000 We're not allowed to raise armies.
01:47:08.000 All right.
01:47:09.000 Emacs Tactical says, as much as I loathe the Bidens, as someone who is an ammunition dealer right outside of Pittsburgh, PA, the 4473 form as a whole fails each and every constitutionally check there.
01:47:19.000 I agree.
01:47:21.000 The idea that you have to self-incriminate, it's insane.
01:47:24.000 So how about we use this, we should all come to the defense of Hunter Biden to nullify the federal background check system.
01:47:31.000 I wonder how often these are being, or people are being convicted under this statute.
01:47:36.000 Because again, under normal circumstances, it seems like it would be pretty hard to prove somebody was a drug addict at that time.
01:47:43.000 It just seems like one of those things that they safely just say, yeah, you're obviously
01:47:46.000 not crackhead right now trying to buy a gun.
01:47:48.000 I was Hunter Biden's, I'm not a crackhead right now.
01:47:53.000 I just had a premonition.
01:47:54.000 I had a vision.
01:47:56.000 Hunter Biden gets convicted.
01:47:59.000 All of the gun groups file briefs on his behalf and join his appeal under the argument that federal background check forms are a violation of our constitutional rights.
01:48:12.000 It goes to the Supreme Court.
01:48:14.000 The Supreme Court agrees making someone who has not been convicted of a crime self-incriminate and then charging them for it is a violation of the Constitution.
01:48:24.000 Therefore, the National Instant Background Check System is hereby dissolved.
01:48:29.000 That would be the greatest thing ever.
01:48:31.000 I'm on board with that.
01:48:32.000 If somehow Biden has a two-way win at the Supreme Court under his presidency, like, twist I did not expect!
01:48:38.000 Tim, if Hunter is convicted and then Trump was elected, do you think he should pardon Hunter?
01:48:45.000 Yes.
01:48:47.000 Trump should absolutely come out and say, and I think all the two-way people would cheer for him if he said, we're not here to argue anything Hunter has done in terms of foreign business dealings.
01:48:57.000 We're not here to make political arguments about my previous rival's family.
01:49:02.000 We are here to talk about the violation of the Constitution and how Hunter Biden was forced to self-incriminate, and when he refused to do so, was imprisoned for it.
01:49:13.000 For that reason, I am calling on the Supreme Court to make the right decision for advocacy groups to file the lawsuits, but in the interim, Hunter Biden will be pardoned of this crime for that reason.
01:49:22.000 It's funny because Trump or Biden wouldn't be able to say like, oh yeah, I'd also pardon my son.
01:49:25.000 I'm just trying to imagine what sort of like passive aggressive statement that Biden would put out.
01:49:29.000 What if Biden pardons him for that reason?
01:49:31.000 You can't argue with him.
01:49:33.000 He's right.
01:49:34.000 Trump should have promised to pardon Biden instead of Ross Albrecht at the Libertarian Convention because Hunter is the new face of the Libertarian Party.
01:49:42.000 Tax evasion.
01:49:43.000 Crack.
01:49:44.000 Guns.
01:49:44.000 Oh my gosh, Hunter Biden on a Libertarian ticket.
01:49:47.000 Sex workers.
01:49:48.000 I mean, he's better than Chase Oliver.
01:49:51.000 I'd rather vote for Hunter Biden than Chase Oliver.
01:49:53.000 Okay, the Libertarian Party is this.
01:49:56.000 A bunch of Ron Paul fans and then a bunch of people who want certain things that are illegal to be legal.
01:50:02.000 So there's a guy who's like, he wants to do crack and take his clothes off and he can't.
01:50:06.000 So he goes to libertarians and he's like, do you think we should be allowed to do drugs and get naked?
01:50:10.000 And they go, well, yeah, you should do whatever you want.
01:50:11.000 He's like, sign me up.
01:50:13.000 So they get this wacky party of crazy ideas, because it's basically a party of people saying, why can't I do this thing that is currently illegal?
01:50:21.000 They're fighting for their right to do things they want to do.
01:50:23.000 Look.
01:50:27.000 Chickmicken Returns says, Tim, what are your thoughts on Sheldon Adelson?
01:50:32.000 He bought Trump and the rest of the GOP, and that's why we didn't get anything Trump promised in the 2016 campaign.
01:50:37.000 I don't think that's why we didn't get things that Trump promised.
01:50:40.000 I think Adelson—didn't Adelson want Bolton?
01:50:43.000 He's dead now, by the way.
01:50:45.000 Right, but Adelson wanted Bolton, so Trump hired Bolton.
01:50:47.000 We don't have a lot to talk about.
01:50:50.000 I think he's mentioning this on the heels of Miriam Adelson's $100 million donation to Trump.
01:50:55.000 So that he annexes the West Bank.
01:50:57.000 Right.
01:50:58.000 You know, I think Adelson's need to be credited and praised for helping Trump get across the finish line.
01:51:05.000 Trump, we complain about when big donors don't put their money where their mouth is in supporting Trump.
01:51:09.000 And then when they do, we complain about them.
01:51:11.000 Why?
01:51:12.000 I think we know why people like complaining about the Adelsons, but I think they're doing a great mitzvah with the amount of money.
01:51:18.000 I think these are some of Trump's biggest donors across multiple campaigns.
01:51:22.000 So instead of being thankful, we're complaining about some of Trump's biggest donors.
01:51:26.000 So where do you line up on the West Bank thing?
01:51:30.000 I think we need to annex all of Area A. Area A. So I have a question.
01:51:34.000 Because you know Camp David Accords, if we're getting into it, all of Area A. And also, people are right when they accuse Israel of ethnic cleansing.
01:51:41.000 Israel ethnically cleansed all the Jews outside of Gaza.
01:51:44.000 That is the only ethnic cleansing Israel has ever been responsible for.
01:51:47.000 I mean, they removed the Jews from Gaza.
01:51:48.000 They ethnically cleansed them.
01:51:49.000 There is no longer any Jews in Gaza, which I disagree with.
01:51:53.000 Yeah, I disagree with the disengagement to begin with.
01:51:55.000 And now Israel's losing more lives to have to deal with problems that would have been less hard-head-juiced.
01:52:00.000 I have a question for the audience here.
01:52:04.000 If your options were Joe Biden wins or Donald Trump wins and the U.S.
01:52:11.000 has to help Israel annex the West Bank, which do you pick?
01:52:13.000 Repeat that.
01:52:16.000 You can choose between Biden winning or Trump winning, but the U.S.
01:52:20.000 has to help Israel annex the West Bank.
01:52:23.000 Is this a question?
01:52:24.000 Anyone who wants to answer.
01:52:27.000 The reason I ask is because Miriam Adelson allegedly, that's the...
01:52:29.000 That's her ask?
01:52:30.000 Yeah, right.
01:52:31.000 She's going to pledge $100 million in helping him get re-elected, but she wants the U.S.
01:52:36.000 to support Israel's efforts to annex the West Bank.
01:52:39.000 Is there the explicit quid pro quo in that, though?
01:52:41.000 I don't know.
01:52:42.000 It's a report.
01:52:43.000 I think she's just...
01:52:44.000 Between the two of...
01:52:46.000 I'll pull it up.
01:52:47.000 Because I think the Adelsons believe that the Republicans would just be more pro-Israel writ large, and that's why they would try to get the Republican elected over the Democrat.
01:52:57.000 Not because of any specific pro quo.
01:53:00.000 I see that in both options, we're still entangled in Israel.
01:53:04.000 Aretz is like an Israeli CNN, so take it with a grain of salt.
01:53:07.000 Okay.
01:53:08.000 Well, so they reported that Miriam Adelson, her condition is West Bank annexation.
01:53:12.000 I don't think they're going to get that, frankly.
01:53:14.000 I agree.
01:53:15.000 It's a great ask.
01:53:16.000 She could want it.
01:53:17.000 She's still going to donate.
01:53:18.000 Trump's not going to be able to okay that.
01:53:20.000 Parts of the West Bank, I'm cool with.
01:53:22.000 Area A. We start with that.
01:53:23.000 What is Area A?
01:53:25.000 So in the Camp David Accord, it would be better if you asked GBT, but Area A is Israel has complete sovereignty and Palestinians still live there.
01:53:34.000 Area B is where they have civil control.
01:53:36.000 Area C is where they have total control.
01:53:38.000 And the West Bank is kind of divided into three parts.
01:53:41.000 Explain to me like I'm five.
01:53:45.000 It's gonna be like, I ain't I ain't doing it.
01:53:47.000 It's gonna be like, no, no, we are not talking about this.
01:53:50.000 It's really thinking.
01:53:51.000 It's just like, depends on who's asking.
01:53:57.000 I said, what is Area A in Israel?
01:53:59.000 Is that the right question?
01:54:00.000 It's asking its censors if it's allowed to do that.
01:54:02.000 It won't do it.
01:54:03.000 Tim, I think Wikipedia would be doing a good job if you did, like, Camp David Accords, Area A, B, and C. Yeah, ChattyPT is like, I am not getting involved in this.
01:54:10.000 I will say, as far as Sheldon Adelson goes, I don't like Jonathan Pollard flying back to make a liar on Adelson's private jet, which he did, knowing the damage he did to U.S.
01:54:24.000 national security.
01:54:25.000 Jonathan Pollard was an Israeli spy, an American citizen who was an Israeli spy.
01:54:30.000 He spied for multiple people.
01:54:33.000 I believe it was for money and then Trump ended up pardoning him and he was greeted as a hero within Israel despite being a traitor to Israel's greatest ally in America.
01:54:45.000 So I agree with you.
01:54:46.000 Patrick Gallagher says Biden will pardon Hunter no matter the outcome of the election.
01:54:50.000 It's his last chance at office.
01:54:52.000 I think so.
01:54:54.000 I think Joe Biden's going to put out a bunch of pardons for a whole bunch of Democrats.
01:55:03.000 Like there's a strong possibility if Trump wins, Biden's going to issue pardons for stuff that's going to make your jaw at the floor.
01:55:08.000 They're going to be like, he's going to pardon Hillary Clinton because you can pardon before a crime has been charged or indicted.
01:55:15.000 He's going to be like blanket pardon for sedition for all of these things.
01:55:20.000 Yep.
01:55:22.000 Uh, yeah, ChadTPT says, uh-uh.
01:55:24.000 We ain't going there.
01:55:25.000 Something wrong.
01:55:26.000 Did you just break ChadTPT?
01:55:28.000 It says, I do not want to answer that question.
01:55:30.000 Did you guys see the clip from the Whatever podcast?
01:55:32.000 No.
01:55:32.000 Where the woman goes, she says something like, you know, there's these secret agencies, like you've got Mossad, so when it comes to Israel, and he goes, no!
01:55:39.000 No!
01:55:40.000 No, we're not talking about this!
01:55:41.000 And everyone was like, they got mad at him.
01:55:44.000 Is he Jewish, that guy?
01:55:45.000 The Whatever podcast guy?
01:55:46.000 No, but I'm like, I'm not surprised the guy who wants to talk about dating is saying don't talk Israel-Palestine on my show.
01:55:51.000 You know, it's like, he wants to talk about loose women, not the... He's trying to dunk on the internet, girls.
01:55:57.000 This is not his repertoire.
01:56:00.000 Okay, it gave it.
01:56:01.000 Area A and Israel first are regions of the West Bank where the Palestinian Authority has full civil and security control.
01:56:05.000 The classification stems from the Oslo Accords, which divided the West Bank into areas A, B, and C, with different levels of administrative control.
01:56:13.000 Area A includes major Palestinian cities and is meant to be under Palestinian administrative and police authority, while Israel retains control over security matters in other parts of the West Bank.
01:56:21.000 I think I had them reversed then.
01:56:23.000 Then I want area C annexed.
01:56:25.000 Could you pull up a map of it?
01:56:26.000 If you look it up on a...
01:56:28.000 Oh, I could probably ask it.
01:56:29.000 Here, I'll do this.
01:56:30.000 Draw me a map of it.
01:56:32.000 It could produce a map?
01:56:34.000 Uh, it could make images.
01:56:35.000 Yeah, because area A, B, and C are very clearly defined.
01:56:39.000 Um... I bet it's gonna be a weird nonsensical map that's like an AI-generated not, like... It's gonna be like a... It's like the map for the Barbie movie.
01:56:48.000 Yeah.
01:56:48.000 It just doesn't have the West Bank on there at all.
01:56:51.000 What?
01:56:52.000 What is this?
01:56:53.000 Holy crap.
01:56:54.000 Where did it get?
01:56:55.000 I knew it was going to be fake, right?
01:56:57.000 Like, what is this?
01:56:59.000 I knew it was going to be some weird fake nonsense.
01:57:01.000 GBT wants to make Israel an expansionist country.
01:57:04.000 Look, they're really trying to go... It's got two Area Bs.
01:57:07.000 Yeah, it does.
01:57:09.000 It's got two Area Bs.
01:57:10.000 It's got an ARA-A, a VIALT.
01:57:15.000 It's got a NABDAO.
01:57:18.000 I knew it was going to do something like this, right?
01:57:20.000 But it looks really colorful and cute.
01:57:21.000 Do you want to just try Google Tim for the A, B, and C?
01:57:25.000 No, this is more fun.
01:57:27.000 All right, well.
01:57:29.000 Anyway, and maybe a quarter of Gaza.
01:57:36.000 It's okay, this is not a real map of Israel.
01:57:41.000 Oh, it's a bit complex, Tim.
01:57:42.000 You need to understand.
01:57:44.000 It's shaming you.
01:57:45.000 Thank you.
01:57:46.000 Oh, I like how it tries to actually, uh, but tell him is like a very far left organization
01:57:55.000 in Israel.
01:57:56.000 So it's interesting that the sources they try to use.
01:57:59.000 I'm not familiar with the UN map.
01:58:02.000 I think in a year it'll be able to actually make maps.
01:58:05.000 It's actually really interesting how quickly it's developing and evolving.
01:58:07.000 A year ago, you couldn't get text.
01:58:10.000 in an AI-generated image, now text is starting to appear really well.
01:58:13.000 But these political questions are going to be very difficult for it.
01:58:16.000 So like, for example, if you ask if Taiwan's a country, it'll also give you this weird gobbly go- what?
01:58:21.000 It said, it looks like there was an issue with the polygons for the areas.
01:58:24.000 I'll correct this and try again and generate the map.
01:58:26.000 Creating polygons using Shapely directly within Pandas data frame may cause issues.
01:58:30.000 I'll use a different approach to ensure the polygons are correctly handled in Geopandas.
01:58:34.000 Let me correct the approach and generate the map again.
01:58:36.000 This is third Geopandas.
01:58:37.000 It seems there is a consistent issue with data handling for the polygons in Geopandas.
01:58:41.000 I will simplify the approach to ensure... Wow, this is great.
01:58:44.000 It's trying real hard.
01:58:45.000 It's trying really hard, yeah.
01:58:46.000 Here's a more straightforward approach to draw a map representation without complex geographic data handling.
01:58:51.000 Manually plot the areas as colored rectangles.
01:58:53.000 Oops, an error!
01:58:55.000 I broke it!
01:58:56.000 I got them confused.
01:58:57.000 Area... I was thinking Area A was Area C. Area C is where Israel has its administered, B is administered by the Palestinian Authority where Israel's security control, and Area A is totally administered by the Palestinian Authority.
01:59:10.000 Area C is like 50% of the West Bank.
01:59:14.000 Wow, I broke it.
01:59:16.000 That's unfortunate.
01:59:17.000 I think Israel broke it.
01:59:18.000 Give Israel some credit here, come on.
01:59:20.000 Chat, GPD broke it?
01:59:21.000 I'm pushing it to the limits.
01:59:24.000 In a year or so, it's gonna be able to do all of this stuff.
01:59:28.000 It's gonna be wild.
01:59:30.000 You're gonna be able to tell it to make a video of Israel conquering Palestine, and it will.
01:59:35.000 I'm sad to... I won't try to sidetrack too hard today, but the New York Times... This is a little better, but still wrong.
01:59:41.000 No, it doesn't have A, B, or C. No, I know.
01:59:43.000 Joran is not a place, and it's certainly not where it is.
01:59:46.000 Yeah.
01:59:46.000 And I've never heard of Ehan Pinaya.
01:59:50.000 But it's... Look, it got pretty close!
01:59:52.000 You know?
01:59:53.000 Like, it's... It's predicted to come.
01:59:55.000 At least they gave us the Golan Heights.
01:59:57.000 So...
02:00:00.000 And Jerusalem?
02:00:01.000 Okay.
02:00:03.000 Make another that is detailed and just show me.
02:00:05.000 Not detailed.
02:00:06.000 Not detailed.
02:00:08.000 So while it's doing that, I guess we're going to start winding down.
02:00:10.000 So if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member to support our work directly, because we rely on you as members to make the show work.
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02:00:25.000 Christina, do you want to shout anything out?
02:00:26.000 Yes, my ex, we're calling it ex now, we're officially not on Twitter, I guess, is notradix, N-O-T-R-A-D-I-X, and the documentary ex account is kandkfilm, like the letter K, because...
02:00:43.000 I didn't want to get a website that was kidnapandkill.com.
02:00:46.000 That'd be weird.
02:00:47.000 So kandkfilm is the X and the website kandkfilm.
02:00:52.000 You can watch the trailer there for the documentary.
02:00:55.000 You can support it.
02:00:55.000 You can also find ways to write to the five men who are still wrongly incarcerated.
02:01:00.000 I have their mailing addresses there.
02:01:03.000 So that would be great also.
02:01:05.000 Absolutely.
02:01:05.000 It was cool having you to chat a bit today.
02:01:07.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.
02:01:09.000 I'm a field reporter here at TimCast News.
02:01:12.000 For those who are interested a little bit more in my work, I'm actually covering two events tomorrow in D.C.
02:01:16.000 The White House will be surrounded by pro-Palestine protesters in the morning and then D.C.
02:01:21.000 pride during the afternoon.
02:01:23.000 Check us out on Twitter if you want to see more of that.
02:01:26.000 Anna Claire?
02:01:27.000 It's been so fun being here.
02:01:28.000 I hope you guys have a great Friday night.
02:01:30.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.
02:01:31.000 I'm a writer for scnr.scnr.com at Scanner News.
02:01:34.000 Oh, that's totally right.
02:01:35.000 You need to follow at TimCastNews on Twitter and Instagram to see all of his work.
02:01:38.000 I'm really excited to see what you film on the ground.
02:01:41.000 If you want to follow me personally, I'm on Twitter.
02:01:44.000 Formerly Twitter, I guess.
02:01:46.000 HannahClaireB.
02:01:47.000 I'm on Instagram at HannahClaire.B.
02:01:49.000 Guys, thanks for all the support every night.
02:01:52.000 I can't talk anymore.
02:01:53.000 Bye, Serge!
02:01:54.000 See you guys.
02:01:56.000 We'll see you all with clips throughout the weekend and then we're back on Monday.
02:01:59.000 Thanks for hanging out.