Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 02, 2025


TRUMP WINNING, Big Beautiful Bill PASSES Senate, Faces BLOCKS In The House | Timcast IRL


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2 hours and 16 minutes

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Summary

On this week's Culture War Podcast, we talk about the Senate passing a bill that could kick illegal immigrants off Medicaid, Elon Musk being asked if he would be willing to be deported by President Trump, and more. Culture War is a production of Gimlet Media. New episodes drop every Tuesday.


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00:02:40.000 The big beautiful bill has passed.
00:02:43.000 Holy crap, barely.
00:02:44.000 J.D. Vance had to issue the tie-breaking vote, and it looks like it will be advancing to the House, but we're not so convinced that the House is going to pass it.
00:02:54.000 The votes don't seem to be there.
00:02:55.000 Now, they've taken on some of the good stuff.
00:02:57.000 Some of the stuff that people like is still in there.
00:02:59.000 Like, apparently, they are going to be kicking off illegal immigrants from Medicaid, and everybody was worried about that.
00:03:03.000 But we're hearing that's a rumor.
00:03:05.000 Either way, Massey is going to be a no.
00:03:07.000 We're hearing Chip Roy is going to be a no.
00:03:09.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene is saying they don't got the votes for this.
00:03:12.000 One more defector, and this bill's not going to pass.
00:03:15.000 So we will see.
00:03:15.000 We will see.
00:03:16.000 It very well may go through.
00:03:18.000 And then we also got some very big news.
00:03:20.000 Elon and Trump are feuding again.
00:03:22.000 And this morning, Donald Trump suggested he would look into deporting Elon Musk.
00:03:26.000 But to be fair, the media asked the leading question, and they said, would you deport Elon Musk?
00:03:31.000 And Trump said, well, we'll look into it.
00:03:33.000 I think that's Trump's way of saying, I don't know what you're talking about, whatever.
00:03:38.000 But we also have some big news.
00:03:40.000 Leah Thomas is having all of his wins stripped with an apology to the women's swimming team.
00:03:47.000 This is big news.
00:03:48.000 Capitulation to Donald Trump.
00:03:49.000 So we'll talk about that plus a bunch of other stories.
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00:06:42.000 You know, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Amber Duke.
00:06:45.000 Hi, y'all.
00:06:46.000 I'm Amber Duke.
00:06:46.000 I'm the senior editor for The Daily Caller, co-host of The Hills Rising, as well as Reasons Free Media and author of The Unfit to Print newsletter.
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00:06:56.000 Good evening, everybody.
00:06:57.000 I'm Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcasts.
00:07:00.000 Good to be here.
00:07:01.000 How's it going, Phil?
00:07:02.000 Hello, Elad.
00:07:03.000 Hello, everybody.
00:07:03.000 My name is Phil LeBonte.
00:07:04.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Man, All That Remains.
00:07:06.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
00:07:08.000 Let's get into it.
00:07:08.000 We got the story from CNN.
00:07:10.000 Senate passes Trump's agenda bill after marathon voting session.
00:07:15.000 Check this out from the Washington Post, how every senator voted on the reconciliation bill.
00:07:19.000 And as you can see, it was 50-50.
00:07:22.000 J.D. Vance traveled down to cast the tiebreaking vote.
00:07:26.000 WAPO says Senate narrowly passed the budget reconciliation bill on Tuesday with J.D. Vance casting a tie-breaking vote.
00:07:33.000 Three Republicans, Rand Paul, Tom Tillis, and Susan Collins voted against the bill.
00:07:38.000 The measure passed after nearly 48 consecutive hours of reading, debating, and voting on the amendments.
00:07:43.000 The bill includes trillions in tax cuts from President Trump's first term, implements new promises from his campaign, and will spend billions on immigration.
00:07:51.000 I would appreciate it if they got a little specific and said it will spend billions on deporting illegal immigrants.
00:07:57.000 So what comes next in the Senate reconciliation process?
00:08:00.000 It's now going to go to the House.
00:08:02.000 The bill will return to the House where another majority vote for the full chamber is needed to approve the legislation with the Senate changes.
00:08:08.000 If it passes, the final version will be sent to Trump to sign and the bill will become law.
00:08:14.000 So we'll see.
00:08:15.000 The first thing is, obviously, we are not convinced it's going to make it through the House, but we can get to that in a second.
00:08:21.000 I'm curious if you guys are excited about the bill.
00:08:24.000 Are you happy for it?
00:08:25.000 I think it's generally good.
00:08:28.000 As good as you can expect with as slim of a majority as Republicans have in both chambers.
00:08:33.000 There's a lot to like on the immigration front.
00:08:35.000 You mentioned that.
00:08:36.000 $175 billion towards immigration enforcement and border security through 2029, which includes $29.85 billion for ICE to hire 8,500 new enforcement officers and expand deportation operations, along with $45 billion to increase ICE detention capacity with more adult and family residential center beds.
00:08:55.000 Also, $46.55 billion for border wall construction.
00:08:58.000 I think the immigration aspect is the strongest part of this bill.
00:09:02.000 The Medicaid for illegals thing is kind of tricky.
00:09:04.000 You have Senator Eric Schmidt claiming that they're kicking off 1.4 illegal immigrants.
00:09:09.000 It's a little bit more complicated than that.
00:09:11.000 Basically, how they structured it, because the complete removal was killed by the Senate parliamentarian under the Byrd rule.
00:09:18.000 What it does is it reduces the federal matching rate for states that provide Medicaid to illegal immigrants from 90% to 80%, and then also lowers the amount of federal emergency Medicaid spending on emergency room visits for illegal.
00:09:35.000 So it's not a full moratorium, and it doesn't kick in until October of 2026.
00:09:39.000 Interesting.
00:09:40.000 That's mediocre.
00:09:42.000 I agree with you about the immigration stuff.
00:09:45.000 I do think that making the tax cuts permanent are good.
00:09:49.000 I think that people haven't given enough thought or you don't hear people talking about enough how bad for the economy it would be if they didn't make the tax cut permanent.
00:10:00.000 You hear the left complaining about, oh, you know, rich don't pay their fair share, et cetera, et cetera.
00:10:04.000 Everyone knows that's bullshit.
00:10:05.000 Everyone knows that the rich pay all the taxes and that people, like 50% of the population, doesn't even contribute.
00:10:12.000 The NFA stuff is obviously bad.
00:10:15.000 It's cool that you don't have to pay $200 anymore for suppressors and for short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns.
00:10:20.000 But the really onerous part of the NFA is still there.
00:10:24.000 You still have to provide fingerprints.
00:10:26.000 You still have to be on file with the ATF.
00:10:28.000 You still have to notify the ATF to travel across state lines with an SBR or an SBS.
00:10:35.000 So those are bad.
00:10:36.000 I don't know everything that's in it, obviously.
00:10:39.000 But like I said, I think that the funding for the immigration stuff is the best thing about it.
00:10:44.000 The tax cuts are very good.
00:10:45.000 Then everything else, I'm still kind of wishy-washy on.
00:10:48.000 Did you guys hear that the Trump Bedman's already denaturalized at least one person, stripping their citizenship?
00:10:54.000 Love to hear it.
00:10:54.000 Yeah, it was a UK-born individual who came here and was distributing child sexual abuse materials.
00:11:02.000 Yep.
00:11:03.000 Citizenship gone.
00:11:05.000 It was funny.
00:11:05.000 I was talking to Carl Benjamin earlier and he was like, we don't want him back.
00:11:08.000 And I was like, well, he's yours.
00:11:09.000 You got to take him.
00:11:11.000 I don't blame him for not wanting him back.
00:11:13.000 Build your own sea cot.
00:11:14.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:11:15.000 But so the immigration stuff, I think it's so overwhelmingly good.
00:11:21.000 I really don't care all that much about the rest, to be honest.
00:11:25.000 They already took our, they're already over-regulating our firearm suppressors.
00:11:30.000 And that's so sure I could want more.
00:11:34.000 But these things are already happening.
00:11:35.000 So if really what this bill is, the next move we're going to make is get Trump his funding for controlling immigration, then I just say, okay.
00:11:43.000 You know, I saw a post from Mike Cernovich.
00:11:45.000 He's completely correct.
00:11:45.000 He said the debt is not our most immediate problem right now.
00:11:49.000 The mass migration is our major concern, is our major problem.
00:11:54.000 And the crazy thing is, too, on top of this, the obvious thing, if Democrats win, they're going to spend $10 trillion in the deficit.
00:12:00.000 It's going to be substantially worse.
00:12:02.000 So, you know, with respect to Massey, Paul, and even Elon Musk saying this debt stuff is destroying us, it is.
00:12:11.000 It is.
00:12:12.000 But we've got more pressing issues in the short term.
00:12:16.000 If we can solve these short-term issues, we can pull out of the tailspin and start correcting these in the long term.
00:12:20.000 So this one big, beautiful bill is the Trump agenda manifested into a bill.
00:12:26.000 So if you trust what Trump has to say in this bill and you believe that he had a, what was it, when he won the election with a pot and he had a mandate when he won the election, then I think you should be supporting this bill.
00:12:37.000 It came down to a 50-51 vote.
00:12:39.000 The three holdouts was one, Susan Collins from Maine.
00:12:43.000 She likes to vote as a centrist because it plays well to her audience over there.
00:12:46.000 Then also Republican Senator Tom Tillis from North Carolina, one of the guys who voted no, is more of a moderate in his speech complaining about why he didn't vote for the bill.
00:12:55.000 He was really upset about the Medicare cuts and he said it would end up knocking something like 600,000 People in his state off Medicare, off of Medicare as a result of these cuts.
00:13:04.000 I think they put in some necessary work provisions and that Medicare needs to have some changes made to it, some reforms made to it, if we want to see it as a long-term program that the government is going to be able to maintain, that's going to be able to stay tenable.
00:13:19.000 And then, of course, there is the Libertarian grandstanders who voted against the bill, and that is Senator Rand Paul.
00:13:25.000 I think that we need to have a serious conversation about what the goals of these libertarians really are.
00:13:30.000 They need to swallow their pride and vote for Trump's one big, beautiful bill.
00:13:34.000 As you guys were saying, the debt is an issue in our country, but it is far from the number one issue.
00:13:39.000 As far as it goes for me, I believe immigration tops that issue by leaps and bounds.
00:13:44.000 So that's very important.
00:13:46.000 And then they had to give Lisa Murkowski a bunch of sweeteners to get her to vote yes from Alaska.
00:13:50.000 So if Rand Paul wanted to be able to influence this bill and cut $100 billion from it, which they increased to give to Lisa Murkowski, maybe he should have voted to support Trump's bill.
00:13:59.000 Who do you hate more?
00:13:59.000 Do you hate Democrats more or libertarians?
00:14:03.000 That's a tough one.
00:14:04.000 I don't know.
00:14:04.000 And I'll give you an honest libertarian a lot.
00:14:06.000 It's hard to give you a definitive answer there because as far as I'm concerned, the Libertarians are voting with the Democrats here.
00:14:12.000 Massey is voting against the Trump agenda.
00:14:14.000 Rand Paul is voting against the Trump agenda.
00:14:16.000 These are loser grand standards, according to Donald Trump.
00:14:19.000 Okay, well, let me actually half agree with a lot on this one.
00:14:23.000 I actually think Massey is great.
00:14:24.000 I think Rand Paul is great.
00:14:25.000 Rand Paul said he would not kill the bill.
00:14:27.000 If it came down to it and he had to vote for it, he would.
00:14:29.000 He didn't because J.D. Vance broke the tie.
00:14:31.000 So Rand Paul said this to me.
00:14:33.000 I don't believe he would have let it tank.
00:14:36.000 So I think he's publicly saying, I don't need to vote for it.
00:14:38.000 I don't like it.
00:14:39.000 I'm not going to.
00:14:40.000 Massey's staunchly like, nah.
00:14:42.000 I jokingly, half jokingly asked him, what if they slipped and repealed the entire NFA in there?
00:14:46.000 And then he started laughing.
00:14:47.000 Like, how are you going to not vote for it then?
00:14:49.000 He told me that he would vote for the bill if they split it into two bills, where one of them was Trump's priorities in the tax cuts, and the other bill was everything else.
00:15:01.000 He said he might support that.
00:15:03.000 Wow.
00:15:04.000 So here's the issue I take.
00:15:06.000 I don't take issue largely with Messie and Rand Paul, but the general libertarian, I mean, y'all hear me argue with some of these libertarians.
00:15:16.000 Their attitude, we had one just recently with Billy Binion.
00:15:20.000 And with all due respect, it was nice.
00:15:23.000 I appreciate the conversation.
00:15:25.000 My takeaway view from the libertarians were Democrats have done illegal things for a long time.
00:15:31.000 You cannot rectify or get accountability for those things because we don't want to go that far.
00:15:38.000 So the bad things are currently happening.
00:15:39.000 They already happened.
00:15:40.000 They're going to happen again.
00:15:41.000 But don't you dare do anything because that means you're going to add to the happenings.
00:15:43.000 That's the problem with libertarians is they're like, well, you know, we shouldn't do this and we're so principled and et cetera, which is, it's fine to be like, you know, to have those opinions.
00:15:52.000 But when it comes down to it, at the end of the day, power is a zero-sum game.
00:15:57.000 If you do not exercise power when you have it, when your opponents have power, they will exercise it and they're going to do things that you hate.
00:16:05.000 So to say, well, you know, it's better to be principled and not do things that violate my principles, that's important to me.
00:16:13.000 Well, it's cool, but you shouldn't be in a position to be making decisions about how power is used because you're not going to use power.
00:16:20.000 And the libertarians being 3% at the highest point they've ever been, at the highest point they've ever been, they were like 3%.
00:16:27.000 That's being significant influence.
00:16:31.000 So they shouldn't be like, oh, no, we're not going to, we're not going to, we're going to be principled and we're not going to exercise power.
00:16:36.000 While you have the opportunity to make things better, you need to make things better if you can.
00:16:41.000 I think they often look at the world as it should be and not as it is, i.e.
00:16:44.000 they don't live in reality.
00:16:45.000 But I will say that Kentucky's a very interesting state electorally.
00:16:51.000 They are a longtime Democratic stronghold who kind of flipped to Trump in 2016, but still voted Democrat multiple times for the governorship.
00:17:01.000 The last, I think, three governors were all Democrats in Kentucky.
00:17:05.000 They're kind of Maverick voters and they like Thomas Massey.
00:17:09.000 So even though this MAGAPAC and APAC are going after him hard, unless they find truly the perfect candidate, he's not going anywhere.
00:17:18.000 APAC's been going after Thomas Massey since 2012.
00:17:22.000 I like Massey.
00:17:22.000 Kentucky's producing some crazy politicians between Senator McConnell, between Rand Paul, between Thomas Massey.
00:17:30.000 I don't know if they're sending their best.
00:17:31.000 The important thing to understand about Mitch McConnell in Kentucky is that he was like the Murkowski for Kentucky, meaning he brought home the bacon, right?
00:17:39.000 Like he was in Congress, in the Senate, always making sure that Kentucky got its share of federal dollars.
00:17:48.000 And so they'll always love him for that, even if they kind of don't like him personally.
00:17:53.000 If every member of Congress was Thomas Massey, the Trump agenda would be complete.
00:17:58.000 It would be finger snapped and we're good to go.
00:17:59.000 It is all of these politicians that demand special deals.
00:18:06.000 You've got Susan Collins right here, and her opposition says, I'm pleased the bill contains a special fund that I propose to provide some assistance to our rural hospitals, but it's not sufficient to offset the other changes in the Medicaid system.
00:18:16.000 Let me just simplify what she's saying.
00:18:18.000 My state deserves special sweetheart provisions if I'm going to agree to what you want.
00:18:24.000 If every politician just said we shouldn't be spending this money, we should focus on the agenda to make America better, then let's roll.
00:18:30.000 Fine, we'd be good.
00:18:31.000 But then they'd lose to the politicians who would say that I will get our state better deals.
00:18:35.000 Yes, my point is quite literally, if politicians had integrity and actually were standing on principle, like Thomas Massey does and ran Paul, Trump would get everything he wants without issue.
00:18:46.000 The problems would all be solved.
00:18:48.000 The problem is most politicians are going to pander, lie, cheat, and steal.
00:18:51.000 They're to some degree going to be commies.
00:18:53.000 Zoran Mamdani is just, he's Susan Collins times 10.
00:18:57.000 Susan Collins is going to say, give my district special privileges, give me free stuff, and I'll vote for your bill.
00:19:04.000 And then when they say no, she goes, fine, I won't vote for it.
00:19:06.000 Zoran Mamdani is the same thing, but just dramatically amplified.
00:19:10.000 So I'll put it this way, commie's in increments.
00:19:14.000 And most of these politicians are just a teeny little bit communist, and I'm saying that intentionally to insult them.
00:19:19.000 I know that really communists.
00:19:21.000 They're just like, okay, I'll vote for your bill.
00:19:23.000 What are you going to do for my state?
00:19:25.000 Okay, you've got oil refineries there.
00:19:27.000 We'll give you special regulation.
00:19:28.000 Oh, okay.
00:19:28.000 Now I'll vote.
00:19:29.000 Yes.
00:19:29.000 Transactional.
00:19:30.000 Speaking of extra pork in the bills, the Republicans, because they couldn't lose another vote, had to get Lisa Markowski in from Alaska, who got a ton of extra pork in the bill.
00:19:40.000 Rand Paul had this to say on it.
00:19:42.000 He said the bill includes over $500 billion in new spending, and at the end, they get in the end, to get the vote of the Alaska Senator, billions and billions more were added, said Rand Paul of Kentucky.
00:19:52.000 It really kind of begs the question, though, why wouldn't he try to leverage his vote instead of Lisa's to try to help reduce the extra pork in this bill by some $500 billion or whatnot?
00:20:02.000 Because it's easier to spend money than to cut money politically.
00:20:06.000 Sure.
00:20:06.000 Well, I'm not saying that's a good answer or it's the morally right answer.
00:20:11.000 But he would have been able to leverage, instead of getting the sweetheart deals for Alaska, she could have voted against it.
00:20:16.000 Rand Paul could have supported it.
00:20:18.000 But he was still going to vote no.
00:20:20.000 I mean, I guess I don't understand why he doesn't leverage his vote more, but maybe I'm missing something.
00:20:24.000 Let's jump to this from Mediaite-ish show.
00:20:28.000 Marjorie Taylor Green trashes drama over Trump's big beautiful bill, says she can't imagine it will pass the House.
00:20:34.000 So big news that Trump's agenda has succeeded in the House only because of J.D. Vance's tiebreaker.
00:20:40.000 Now we're hearing from Marjorie Taylor Green, as well as the obvious components here.
00:20:44.000 It's not going to make it to the House.
00:20:46.000 So you were mentioning before the show, Chip Roy says no.
00:20:48.000 Thomas Massey is an obvious no.
00:20:50.000 He's been saying no nonstop.
00:20:51.000 So they're already at a tied vote.
00:20:54.000 So what happens then?
00:20:54.000 Marjorie won't be the vote that kills the bill.
00:20:57.000 But there's probably pro Trump.
00:20:59.000 She won't do it.
00:21:01.000 But all you need is one more defector, and it's not going to do it.
00:21:03.000 But who would that be?
00:21:04.000 So I'm reading Chip Roy and Massey are both the Digit Hawks.
00:21:08.000 Ralph Northam from South Carolina told reporters he currently opposes advancing the bill out of rules committee after the Senate's changes.
00:21:15.000 I don't know if they're going to massage him too.
00:21:17.000 They could lose up to three.
00:21:19.000 Yeah, I mean, they'll massage, they'll give kickbacks, and there's probably Norman.
00:21:23.000 Norman, I was like, yeah, no, Norman.
00:21:25.000 And there will probably be amendments in the House version as well.
00:21:29.000 I mean, just a couple of the things in the Senate version that are kind of disturbing.
00:21:34.000 The provision that prevents Medicaid funding for Planned Parenthood only lasts for one year.
00:21:41.000 And also the no tax on tips and no tax on overtime only lasts for three years.
00:21:45.000 So the way that the OMB director Rust vote is able to say that the bill is deficit neutral is because the CBO scores over a period of 10 years.
00:21:54.000 They did this exact same accounting trick with the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, which is where they made the corporate tax cuts permanent and they made the middle class tax cuts temporary because they knew that would be politically easier to pass an extension on.
00:22:08.000 But when they passed it the first time, making that part temporary made the 10-year scoring window look deficit neutral.
00:22:15.000 So they're doing the same thing with this three-year provision on no tax on tips and no tax on overtime.
00:22:19.000 Because if you scored the bill over those first three years, it would increase the deficit significantly.
00:22:24.000 But because it's scored over 10, assuming those things expire, which they won't, Congress will obviously vote to extend them.
00:22:30.000 It is, of course, a huge budget buster.
00:22:33.000 So that's like the huge rub here that I think the Trump administration is not being super honest about.
00:22:38.000 And they keep claiming that they are doing no tax on Social Security, which isn't true.
00:22:42.000 It's only under certain conditions, which they're like, oh, well, it's 88% of seniors covered under Social Security.
00:22:48.000 But what about people who take their Social Security before the age of 65?
00:22:51.000 Like, what about a widow who has to take it because she's only getting her late husband's pension and she's only 62, right?
00:22:57.000 Like, they're not getting tax relief under this.
00:22:59.000 I honestly think at the end of the day, the reason why Trump is so adamant about the bill is because if the tax cuts don't stay, that's going to have a negative effect on the economy.
00:23:12.000 And I think he knows that the worst thing for his entire presidency is a bad economy.
00:23:18.000 That's why he's going so ham at the Powell and giving him such a hard time about not cutting interest rates.
00:23:28.000 So I don't know that this is actually really all that much deeper than that.
00:23:35.000 I think a lot of posturing has to be done, but if you vote against the big beautiful bill, you're probably going to have to retire or be primarily by a candidate that Trump is practicing.
00:23:46.000 Hold on.
00:23:47.000 Well, what happens if they only get 218 votes?
00:23:48.000 They need a majority.
00:23:49.000 Is 218 enough to pass it?
00:23:52.000 As I understand, they could lose three votes and still pass it.
00:23:55.000 No, that would put them at 217.
00:23:57.000 Let me look up the.
00:23:58.000 So I think at 218, they still pass it.
00:24:01.000 If they lose three votes, it fails.
00:24:03.000 I think that's right.
00:24:04.000 I think they could only afford to lose two.
00:24:05.000 Yeah.
00:24:07.000 I think the people that are most likely to encounter primaries are the people that didn't want to push through the NFA stuff.
00:24:23.000 The gun lobby, while it's not very big, it's extremely active.
00:24:30.000 And well funded.
00:24:31.000 Yeah, well funded.
00:24:32.000 And people that are pro-2A people, they really, really get out and vote.
00:24:37.000 They're one of the most reliable voting blocks.
00:24:40.000 And there's a lot of people that are talking on the internet now.
00:24:42.000 They're like, oh, I'm not going to go.
00:24:45.000 We hope for primaries.
00:24:46.000 I won't be there in the midterms, et cetera.
00:24:50.000 This is a big deal to a very small group of people, but that small group of people can really make a difference because they are so committed and they always vote.
00:24:58.000 This is true.
00:24:58.000 So I don't see.
00:25:00.000 Is a big, beautiful bill is going to pass?
00:25:01.000 No.
00:25:02.000 We'll see.
00:25:03.000 I think it'll ultimately pass.
00:25:04.000 It obviously won't be by the July 4th deadline.
00:25:06.000 It'll probably be mid to early August before the recess.
00:25:10.000 And they'll threaten to hold them over recess.
00:25:12.000 They'll say, well, if you don't get this passed, you're going to have to stay.
00:25:15.000 And I mean, ultimately, they probably wouldn't make them stay over recess because then everyone hates Mike Johnson.
00:25:21.000 But I think that's probably the timeline that we're looking at.
00:25:24.000 Thomas Massey made a great point.
00:25:25.000 He said that Mike Johnson's brought, what, like 100 and something Democrat bills to the floor while dilly-dallying on the Trump agenda and what the Republican voter base wants or the Trump base wants.
00:25:37.000 So why is everybody mad at him?
00:25:38.000 They should be mad at Speaker Johnson.
00:25:39.000 Johnson's doing a miserable job.
00:25:42.000 I don't know.
00:25:44.000 Because the deep state.
00:25:45.000 I hate to say it, but Kevin McCarthy warned us.
00:25:48.000 Yeah, but he was doing the same thing.
00:25:50.000 I know, I know.
00:25:51.000 It's like the pot calling the kettle black, but in this one instance, he was correct.
00:25:55.000 It's true, but that's because of how tight the margins are.
00:25:57.000 Right.
00:25:58.000 You know, it's like if you had 300 Republicans, you'd just be like, whatever, we're going to get it.
00:26:03.000 And you can't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
00:26:04.000 That's like rule number one in politics.
00:26:09.000 I really think that we shouldn't have to be, the Trump agenda shouldn't hinge on these couple of House members, specifically Thomas Massey, thinking that, you know, blocking the agenda from passing.
00:26:20.000 So I wanted to actually regurgitate this truth social from Donald Trump talking about Thomas Massey because I do think we need to be clear-eyed about these libertarians.
00:26:28.000 He says Congressman Thomas Massey of Kentucky is not MAGA, even though he likes to say he is.
00:26:33.000 Actually, MAGA doesn't want him, doesn't know him, and doesn't respect him.
00:26:36.000 He's a negative force who almost always votes no, no matter how good something may be.
00:26:40.000 He's a simple-minded grandstander who thinks it's good politics for Iran to have the highest level of nuclear weapon while at the same time yelling death to America.
00:26:48.000 So I think, again, these Republicans need to fall in line.
00:26:51.000 And ultimately, I think they will.
00:26:53.000 And the Trump agenda will pass.
00:26:55.000 And I think this will be very good for the Trump country that this one big, beautiful bill does get passed.
00:27:00.000 I think we also need it.
00:27:00.000 It's worth mentioning how we got here and why Trump needed to pass it as one big, beautiful bill.
00:27:06.000 It's because the House votes were so slim, because the majority in the House is so slim.
00:27:10.000 They wouldn't be able to pass bills individually.
00:27:13.000 I get it.
00:27:14.000 And I want the bill to pass, but I think Mike Johnson's the problem, not Thomas Massey.
00:27:19.000 I think the problem is weak-willed, spineless Republicans and evil, smarmy Democrats, not Thomas Massey.
00:27:26.000 Well, I mean, it's true, because why are we having to do doge cuts through the rescission process, which doesn't even affect future spending?
00:27:32.000 That's pulling back money that's already been appropriated by Congress.
00:27:37.000 Because Congress is broken.
00:27:38.000 Yeah.
00:27:39.000 I don't see how.
00:27:41.000 And why aren't they codifying all of these executive orders that Trump signed?
00:27:44.000 Because Mike Johnson.
00:27:45.000 Right.
00:27:45.000 Like, Mike Johnson should be bringing one to the floor every single effing day.
00:27:49.000 I'm just going to go ahead and assume that when you go to Congress, Mike Johnson is standing at the table banging the gavel and behind him is a gigantic lizard monster with an alien laser weapon pointed at his back or something.
00:28:00.000 I have no idea why nothing ever gets done, but it's just standard operating procedure.
00:28:06.000 I think Speaker Johnson has conditions that he's put in.
00:28:12.000 I think he has, what, a two-seat majority?
00:28:14.000 How much wiggle room does he really have?
00:28:16.000 He's put in a tough position trying to pass agenda.
00:28:19.000 It's all fake.
00:28:20.000 It's all fake.
00:28:21.000 The Senate parliamentarian being like, oopsie, I guess you can't have the bills you want.
00:28:27.000 Just thune should have fired her.
00:28:28.000 But it's fake.
00:28:29.000 It's fake.
00:28:30.000 The fact that things like this exist, listen, ladies and gentlemen, we are all no different than chickens in a coop walking around, pecking the ground, going about our daily business, thinking we have lives and rights.
00:28:41.000 And they have set up the system in such a way that even when you win the election, a parliamentarian goes whoopsie and starts stripping out the things on the bill that you actually want.
00:28:50.000 It's a deep state, just Senate version.
00:28:52.000 Right, exactly.
00:28:53.000 On purpose.
00:28:54.000 They said, let's create.
00:28:55.000 They're also recommendations.
00:28:57.000 They don't have to listen to her.
00:28:58.000 Yep.
00:28:58.000 Yeah.
00:28:59.000 That's the part that's so frustrating is they can overrule her.
00:29:03.000 They can just ignore her.
00:29:04.000 And they chose not to.
00:29:05.000 That's exactly why the 2A lobby is so upset is because they know that this is probably the only chance that there's going to be, especially with the change in the actual tax, there's probably not going to be a chance to do anything about the NFA ever.
00:29:21.000 You're probably not going to get anything in front of the Supreme Court about this post-the tax.
00:29:28.000 And it's a once in 100 years chance.
00:29:31.000 And they just said, no, we're not going to do it.
00:29:34.000 Man, I really do think this is a one-in-a-lifetime chance to pass this bill to help put forth the Trump agenda.
00:29:40.000 I'm kind of thinking, what a huge disaster it would be for this bill not to pass and really the Trump agenda to not manifest.
00:29:49.000 It'll be a disaster for the economy.
00:29:51.000 It'll be a disaster for the economy and it'll be a bad thing for the immigration stuff and for ICE and for getting immigrants out of the country.
00:30:03.000 Democrats would be elated if this didn't pass, huh?
00:30:05.000 Well, I mean...
00:30:08.000 Definitely.
00:30:08.000 Maybe, but it wouldn't be good for the country.
00:30:11.000 And so they would hang it on Trump and be like, oh, well, you know, it's Trump's fault.
00:30:14.000 But, you know, they're all going to vote against it.
00:30:16.000 They're going to attack him either way.
00:30:18.000 It doesn't matter.
00:30:20.000 I have no concern that it's not going to pass.
00:30:23.000 Massey told me last week, he used this analogy.
00:30:26.000 He was like, look, Congress is three quarters pregnant.
00:30:28.000 They're going to have the baby.
00:30:29.000 Like, it's this far in the process.
00:30:32.000 They're going to get it done.
00:30:33.000 Somebody's going to compromise on principle or whatever you want to call it and vote for this.
00:30:38.000 Maybe, but let's jump to the story from ingame.com.
00:30:41.000 I actually think as much as this story isn't really well known right now, this could actually help put an end to the Big Beautiful bill.
00:30:49.000 Gambling taxes could exceed your net winnings under sweeping federal bill.
00:30:54.000 That is, at the very last minute, they added an amendment to the Big Beautiful bill that says for gamblers, you can only write off 90% of your expenses and losses.
00:31:08.000 This means for professional gaming.
00:31:10.000 This means for the entire gaming industry, which has been booming.
00:31:13.000 They are now basically saying your industry is cooked.
00:31:17.000 So let me break this down.
00:31:18.000 Let's read this.
00:31:19.000 And on the surface, let me say this.
00:31:21.000 It may seem to a lot of people who are going to be like, well, who cares about gambling?
00:31:24.000 Who cares about taxes?
00:31:25.000 I saw the response on Twitter from people.
00:31:27.000 Let me give the simple version.
00:31:29.000 If you are a professional poker player, right, I say this right now because the World Series of Poker is currently happening.
00:31:34.000 It's one of the biggest gaming sporting events in the world.
00:31:37.000 It gets bigger and bigger every year.
00:31:39.000 The biggest was just two years ago.
00:31:40.000 The top prize is like $18 million.
00:31:44.000 If it costs you your business, you're flying around, you're buying special training softwares, whatever it might be.
00:31:51.000 And then you're paying $10,000 to enter a tournament.
00:31:54.000 If it costs you $100,000 in expenses for the year, you can only write off $90,000.
00:31:59.000 So then if you end up winning $100,000 of the year, a break-even year where you're like, man, that year sucked, you will actually end up owing on $10,000 in income you do not have.
00:32:10.000 Now, that, of course, matters very, very much for the poker pros in the poker industry, but gaming itself might turn on this the very last minute.
00:32:19.000 So again, on the surface, it may seem like a relatively minor issue, but understand this.
00:32:25.000 The entirety of Vegas, Penn Entertainment, Caesars Entertainment, They're opening a Caesars in New York.
00:32:31.000 They're opening, I think, a Bally's in Chicago.
00:32:34.000 They are spending hundreds of billions of dollars on gaming.
00:32:38.000 And for them to slip in a provision that takes away your ability to itemize expenses as to your wagering in gaming, I don't understand how the gaming industry like Caesars is going to just let this slide.
00:32:54.000 I have to imagine every politician in Vegas right now, every politician in Nevada is on the phone with their members of Congress and other members of Congress saying, we are going to spend as much as it takes to get this bill killed in the House by tomorrow because this destroys the gaming industry.
00:33:10.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know a whole lot about the gaming industry, but to your point, like there has never been, I don't think in all of American history, there's never been more places where people can go and gamble.
00:33:21.000 There's never been more people that actually are interested in gambling for recreation the way that they are.
00:33:27.000 And it's because of the availability of casinos and stuff.
00:33:30.000 So I think it will make a difference, but I'm not sure.
00:33:32.000 But I think that it's one of those things where it'll be a small constituency that really cares.
00:33:37.000 And then there's going to be just like with the 2A people, it'll be a small constituency that really, really, really cares about this.
00:33:44.000 And I think that you're going to see some of that kind of stuff.
00:33:48.000 Small groups of people that really, really, really care.
00:33:50.000 Well, let's check this out.
00:33:53.000 Let's see.
00:33:53.000 What is the total market size of the gun industry in the U.S.?
00:34:00.000 Because I'm curious, what's bigger?
00:34:01.000 The gun industry or the gaming industry?
00:34:04.000 Right now, with things like DraftKings and all-count professionals, though, right?
00:34:09.000 Who are writing off business expenses, not the whole gaming industry?
00:34:12.000 So it's going to be a much bigger than just the professionals, because this means anybody who's doing sports betting.
00:34:19.000 Anybody who's like, I like going out on the weekends and I'm including on my taxes that I sports bet.
00:34:25.000 I've got fantasy league football, whatever it might be.
00:34:27.000 I mean, just say this.
00:34:28.000 The entirety of fantasy league, you're now in, you're getting 10%.
00:34:32.000 Oh, I can't write off my flight when I go to play fantasy football with my boys.
00:34:36.000 Like, sorry.
00:34:37.000 I mean, that doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
00:34:40.000 You're talking about a multi-billion dollar industry being told they can.
00:34:44.000 But it's not a business.
00:34:45.000 It is.
00:34:46.000 Fantasy football is a business.
00:34:48.000 There are people who are.
00:34:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:34:51.000 How much money do you think DraftKings is spending to maintain their app so that they can have all of these people playing fantasy league sports?
00:34:57.000 I mean, Fantasy Kings is a business, but people who do it recreationally fun.
00:35:03.000 And if they're making $10,000 or $20,000 a year additional to their income and they're saying that this is not a hobby, this is a source of income for my family.
00:35:11.000 I have a league and we do sports betting or we do gaming, whatever it may be.
00:35:17.000 This is Vegas.
00:35:18.000 Like the idea that Vegas is going to sit back and say, we're totally okay with this.
00:35:22.000 My understanding is that this provision got edited the bill without debate and nobody knew it happened until the very last minute.
00:35:27.000 That's why I'm saying I don't see a scenario where the gaming industry, as massive as it is, just sits back and says, we literally don't care.
00:35:35.000 They jammed this at the last minute.
00:35:36.000 My point is, I guarantee you that whether you care about fantasy sports or not, and you think it's silly, the companies that are making $50 billion a year off this are shitting in their pants right now saying, holy fuck, they're going to shut us down.
00:35:51.000 I hope they are.
00:35:53.000 Amber, what are you doing here?
00:35:55.000 $8 billion for the ammunition alone.
00:35:58.000 The total firearms and ammunition business in the U.S. generates $19.7 billion.
00:36:04.000 Yeah.
00:36:06.000 And again, it's not that the 2A people are, or it's not that the 2A lobby is the biggest.
00:36:12.000 It's that they're the most committed.
00:36:15.000 What do you think the size of the gaming industry in the United States is per year?
00:36:17.000 I don't know.
00:36:18.000 $172 billion.
00:36:20.000 Sounds about right.
00:36:21.000 So I find that so sad.
00:36:24.000 I don't disagree.
00:36:26.000 Now, tell me if you agree or disagree that a $172 billion industry is going to, I mean, this is bigger than the gun lobby.
00:36:34.000 Oh, I'm sure they will.
00:36:35.000 They already pay tons of political lobbying dollars to try to get casinos and to deregulate sports betting in states, but I don't agree it's a good thing for those things to happen.
00:36:45.000 So right now, you have the World Series of poker going on.
00:36:48.000 It's like a two-month-long event in Vegas.
00:36:51.000 Hundreds of thousands, not millions of people show up for this.
00:36:53.000 One of the biggest sporting events in the world.
00:36:55.000 Texas Hold'em, social poker is not gambling.
00:36:59.000 There's a lot of pros that'll say it is, but there's a dramatic difference between rolling dice and crossing your fingers and trying to figure out what your opponent is doing, reading what they may or may not be doing, knowing the math.
00:37:10.000 There is a big difference.
00:37:10.000 There's an element of chance to it.
00:37:12.000 Right now is the worst possible time for them to try and put this tax in there because you basically said to literally every single person who just flew to Vegas over the last two months, we are going to destroy what you are doing right now.
00:37:25.000 We are going to make it a pinch.
00:37:28.000 It's not even that.
00:37:30.000 If you wager over the course of one year, $1 million, and that's because you're entering tournaments every week, and then at the end of the year, you make $1.05 million, meaning you netted $50,000, they are going to say you owe an additional $100,000 an additional $100,000, meaning the more you actually are engaged in your profession, not make money, the bigger your tax bill becomes.
00:37:55.000 Absolutely.
00:37:57.000 There are some pros that might have a total wager for the year of $2 million and end up making $100,000 by the end of the year from tournament winnings and losses.
00:38:05.000 Then they're going to say, on the $2 million, you are going to owe an additional $200,000 tax, you're going to have $200,000 taxable income.
00:38:12.000 And you're going to say, I only made $100 this year.
00:38:14.000 So they're going to say, you owe us double taxes from everybody else based on this bill.
00:38:18.000 Yeah, the margins aren't big enough where this is going to be something that even pros aren't going to feel.
00:38:23.000 They're definitely going to feel it.
00:38:26.000 I'm unsure about the specific provisions about gambling, taxes in the bill, but just to zoom out and looking at the gambling and gaming and sports betting industry as a whole, I actually think it's a scourge on our society.
00:38:39.000 I think it's a moral ill.
00:38:41.000 I don't think wealthy people gamble.
00:38:42.000 I think poor people writ large are the ones gambling and they're losing overall.
00:38:47.000 And I think it's kind of ruining sports.
00:38:49.000 It's ruining the enjoyment of watching sports.
00:38:52.000 Also, I think there's something to say about if you're an advantage player on these apps, they actually remove you from the app.
00:38:58.000 You are not allowed to be an advantage player with an amount of winnings on any of these sports gambling apps.
00:39:03.000 So I know way too many young men who this disproportionately affects, who've lost tens of thousands of dollars, who aren't very rich or well off.
00:39:11.000 And I think this is another way that society kind of takes advantage of young men.
00:39:15.000 Which is worse, gambling or porn.
00:39:17.000 I think both are very, very bad, frankly.
00:39:20.000 I think you could go sports very quickly.
00:39:23.000 And I think the proliferation and ubiquity of these industries now is very dangerous.
00:39:30.000 It's way too easy.
00:39:33.000 I completely agree with Elod, though.
00:39:34.000 But you can't gamble away your house.
00:39:37.000 You can give all your money to OnlyFans chips.
00:39:40.000 It's different and more.
00:39:41.000 No, no, no, okay, okay.
00:39:43.000 You can gamble away your house.
00:39:44.000 It happens all the time.
00:39:45.000 Absolutely.
00:39:46.000 People hit their credit cards to the credit window casinos to take money on cash advance they can't pay back, put on a craps table and lose.
00:39:52.000 I've talked about this over and over again.
00:39:54.000 There are something like 12 casinos within two or three hours driving of us.
00:39:58.000 So I think one of the reasons they may be doing this is intentionally to kill the gaming industry.
00:40:03.000 There is a difference, however.
00:40:05.000 Sport like social poker is not the same as blackjacking craps.
00:40:11.000 And so professional players that are playing in tournaments where you're paying $10,000 up front to enter a tournament where the top price is $20 million is not the same thing as going to a casino, sitting at a blackjack table, and then just flipping a coin every time hoping you win.
00:40:26.000 There's a big difference.
00:40:28.000 The issue is we don't have a good way to draw a line of when gambling starts and stops.
00:40:33.000 Is Pokemon gambling?
00:40:36.000 No.
00:40:36.000 When a child spends $20 to enter a tournament where they shuffle up their cards and then randomly draw cards, hoping the cards they draw are better.
00:40:44.000 That's not gambling.
00:40:45.000 If anything is up to random chance, is it gambling?
00:40:49.000 I don't think that's a good idea.
00:40:50.000 What percentage of random chance doesn't make something gambling is the issue?
00:40:53.000 So the issue here is that this is a blanket on the entirety of gaming, even though fantasy sports and social poker games probably would not fall into the same category as, they literally don't fall in the same category as casino gaming.
00:41:08.000 I think we have a big problem, a massive problem with the general expansion of casinos.
00:41:13.000 I actually think they slipped this in there to destroy the gaming industry quickly, sneakily.
00:41:19.000 Which is based in a good thing.
00:41:20.000 I know I support that.
00:41:22.000 Well, look, I think, let's compare this to how wealthy people gamble to the stock market, right?
00:41:29.000 I mean, I'm speaking generally, obviously.
00:41:32.000 I mean, Tim's arguing that professional poker is not really gambling because there's some skill involved.
00:41:38.000 Let's say the same thing for the stock market.
00:41:40.000 It's all skill, right?
00:41:41.000 It's all knowledge.
00:41:42.000 Okay.
00:41:43.000 All right.
00:41:43.000 So there are limits on how much you can write off on losses on capital gains, right?
00:41:48.000 So why aren't there limits on gambling losses?
00:41:52.000 I suppose the I don't care about it in the sense that it's like if you're trying to play blackjack or craps or something or counting cards or whatever, the issue is that it's going to like this is one of the biggest problems I have with how they regulate gambling is that, as a story I've told before, in West Virginia, it's actually illegal by law, codified in the state to play any card game, any.
00:42:14.000 But they've decided Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh!
00:42:16.000 Magic, Art, you know, Lorcana, that doesn't count.
00:42:19.000 So there are stores all over the state where children gamble based on what the law states.
00:42:25.000 The law says if you put up any money for a card game that involves chance, this is an illegal game of chance card game that is banned in the state.
00:42:33.000 But they've decided, no, no, no, we're going to allow big corporations to do this.
00:42:36.000 But if you're a guy with Du Bois and you want to set up a poker game, now it's illegal gambling.
00:42:42.000 You're going to get in trouble.
00:42:42.000 You're going to get fined and all that.
00:42:44.000 That's the big issue I mainly have with this is skill-based with an element of chance is being lumped in with degenerate casino gambling.
00:42:53.000 So if kids went to a Mechanic of the Gathering tournament and there's a box, you win and you get a full box.
00:43:01.000 A mystery box.
00:43:02.000 Well, a full box of cards, whatever the newest expansion is.
00:43:05.000 Yep.
00:43:05.000 That's like $100 or $150 or something.
00:43:07.000 So they're getting a prize.
00:43:08.000 Is that legal in Virginia?
00:43:09.000 It is illegal in West Virginia, but they will not enforce against it.
00:43:13.000 This is my problem with it.
00:43:14.000 So I bought a pack, a collector's booster box of Final Fantasy Japanese Magic Gathering cards.
00:43:22.000 And oh boy, I got a Surge Foil Ishtola.
00:43:26.000 $700 card.
00:43:28.000 Nice.
00:43:28.000 Yeah.
00:43:28.000 Nice pull.
00:43:29.000 So the box was $700, and I got a $70 card.
00:43:32.000 Now, that's collectibles.
00:43:34.000 We get it.
00:43:35.000 If you're a child and you say, I'm going to play Pokemon, and then they say it's $20 to enter.
00:43:41.000 I played Pokemon when it first came out.
00:43:43.000 I had like 10 first edition Charizards, all gone, all lost them all.
00:43:45.000 They're worth like a quarter million each or whatever.
00:43:47.000 You enter the tournament, and if they say you could win packs, it's random chance.
00:43:52.000 You're gambling.
00:43:53.000 Now, obviously, no one considers that gambling.
00:43:56.000 They're like, what do you mean?
00:43:56.000 It's just a Pokemon game.
00:43:57.000 It's 20 bucks to enter the tournament and you win booster packs with cards in it.
00:44:00.000 Well, the cards are random.
00:44:01.000 Some cards are worth more than others.
00:44:03.000 People buy packs for, you can get like a, I have a, I think it's unlimited imagine the gathering booster.
00:44:11.000 People buying packs with the expectation of taking money immediately eternally.
00:44:15.000 Yeah, 100%.
00:44:16.000 I think that's why most people watch watch the YouTube channels where they're wearing latex gloves and they have millions of subscribers and they're shaking as they open a pack and go, oh, and then they rack, they have a money counter showing how much money they've made from doing it.
00:44:32.000 They're gambling.
00:44:32.000 Maybe I've been out of the game for too long, but when I was a child and I used to play with my Pokemon cards, there was no real like sick pull.
00:44:40.000 Yeah, I think we commercialized it in this kind of way.
00:44:43.000 I don't even think most of the people who would buy Yu-Gi-Oh cards or maybe, again, the industry's developed into this and that would be kind of sad.
00:44:52.000 But I think that's manifestly different than like blackjack people going in with the expectation of trying to.
00:44:58.000 My point is we regulate only some things as gambling and other things as not.
00:45:03.000 Meanwhile, I'll say this, like the stock market is, it's silly to call it gambling.
00:45:08.000 It's not gambling.
00:45:09.000 Some people gamble by making dumb choices, but being stupid doesn't mean you're gambling.
00:45:13.000 Calculated risk.
00:45:14.000 Well, I'll put it this way.
00:45:16.000 If I decide to buy a DeLorean, am I gambling?
00:45:23.000 I got a feeling people are going to want this.
00:45:25.000 There's no more left that I'm going to get one.
00:45:27.000 It's just like back to the future.
00:45:28.000 I don't know.
00:45:29.000 Is it buying any asset gambling?
00:45:31.000 No, it's not.
00:45:32.000 That's that abstract level.
00:45:33.000 That's the point.
00:45:34.000 Like, if you're going to go and say, you're like, I'm just going to continuously buy $100 worth of General Electric every week because I know that GE is a solid company.
00:45:45.000 That's not gambling.
00:45:46.000 Like, that's that, the company.
00:45:46.000 It's been around for however, you know, and additionally, calling stock market gambling would be like saying, I am going to invest in a farm that grows apples because I think people want apples.
00:45:56.000 Oh, gambling there, huh?
00:45:57.000 No, I'm investing in apples.
00:45:59.000 Okay, well, look, if you randomly walk up to a guy who says he's got an asparagus ice cream company, do you want to invest in it?
00:46:06.000 And you're like, sounds good.
00:46:08.000 I wouldn't call that gambling either.
00:46:09.000 I'd call you a moron.
00:46:11.000 But to be fair.
00:46:12.000 You can gamble in the stock market.
00:46:14.000 There is that company that makes those weird flavors.
00:46:16.000 Have you seen those?
00:46:17.000 They got like mustard-flavored ice cream?
00:46:18.000 I'm not kidding.
00:46:19.000 I've seen that.
00:46:20.000 And also the weird-flavored onions.
00:46:23.000 Yeah, that's disgusting.
00:46:24.000 Gross.
00:46:24.000 Anyway, my point is simply, I have concerns about how this will affect the poker industry, as it is a lot of poker pros do call it gambling.
00:46:34.000 I think that's silly when you're playing in a tournament, you're not wagering money, you've bought in and you have chips and your goal is to outwit people.
00:46:40.000 But that being said, this is going to, I think the risk here is they just basically challenged the entirety of the gaming industry to say, we are going to destroy a significant portion of your base.
00:46:53.000 They've just opened up every gaming company to say, we're going to lobby as hard as we can to make sure this bill fails.
00:46:58.000 And it takes only one congressman from Nevada or, I mean, the highest grossing single casino outside of Vegas and Atlas City is Maryland, is Oxen Hill.
00:47:10.000 It's National Harbor.
00:47:11.000 There's casinos literally everywhere.
00:47:14.000 One member of Congress being like, my district brings in too much money.
00:47:17.000 Let me tell you guys, Charlestown Races in West Virginia, before they opened, the Horseshoe Casino, Maryland Live, and National Harbor was the biggest casino on the East Coast.
00:47:31.000 And West Virginia was raking in billions of dollars.
00:47:34.000 They had one of the biggest poker rooms in the country.
00:47:36.000 They had something like 50 poker tables.
00:47:38.000 And then when Maryland opened three casinos in the East Coast, people stopped driving to West Virginia to gamble.
00:47:43.000 But it was because West Virginia was the only game in town.
00:47:46.000 My point is, I have actually had these politicians, members of Congress, come to me and say, we are desperate to get that revenue back.
00:47:54.000 We lost billions of dollars.
00:47:57.000 So what do you think is going to happen when you've got Maryland now that owns that real estate, that equity, and they're going to say, if this bill passes, you will lose all of that revenue?
00:48:06.000 We're talking like, I don't know, was it $500 million in revenue for National Harbor last year?
00:48:11.000 They're going to say, do we want to lose $500 million?
00:48:15.000 What are you going to give us?
00:48:16.000 Well, all the Democrats in Maryland are going to vote against it anyway.
00:48:18.000 The only Republican for Maryland is Andy Harris.
00:48:21.000 Correct, correct.
00:48:21.000 So I think there's potentially some Republican jurisdictions where they might not immediately come out and say this is the reason.
00:48:28.000 But again, the gaming industry is going to dump as much as they can into fighting this.
00:48:32.000 There's a lot of perverse incentive when it comes to industries that some people view as good or bad.
00:48:36.000 I think one of the interesting ways that a comparison that we could make here is like the marijuana industry in some states, you know, people are against it, but it brings in tons of revenue for these states that otherwise do not get it.
00:48:48.000 And then if you think about walking back all that legalization, the state revenue is completely lost.
00:48:52.000 So now people are arguing for the pro-legalization side as just a way to get tax revenue, which I would argue is a wrong reason to argue for this stuff.
00:49:01.000 Let's jump to this next story, though.
00:49:03.000 The post-milliona reports, Big Beautiful bill includes removal of illegal immigrants from Medicaid.
00:49:09.000 Everybody thought that wasn't the case, but we have this from Senator Eric Schmidt, who says, the Big Beautiful bill kicks 1.4 million illegal immigrants off Medicaid.
00:49:16.000 For too long, Americans have been paying for the welfare of people who shouldn't be in our country.
00:49:19.000 Today, the Senate voted to end that.
00:49:21.000 Yesterday, there were a lot of rumors flowing around about the ban on Medicaid for illegal aliens being stripped from the bill.
00:49:26.000 Thankfully, that's not true.
00:49:27.000 It's very much in the bill we just passed.
00:49:29.000 You can look it up, page 602.
00:49:31.000 Here's where the rumor came from during yesterday's Vote Arama.
00:49:34.000 An amendment banning Medicaid for illegal immigrants was voted down.
00:49:36.000 The clip of that vote started circulating online, and folks took that to mean the provision had been stripped from the bill altogether.
00:49:42.000 But that was just one of many messaging amendments designed to force Democrats to vote against specific provisions.
00:49:48.000 In this case, a ban on some Medicaid funding for illegal aliens who commit heinous crimes on the record.
00:49:52.000 It was meant to show the public how radical they are.
00:49:55.000 The ban itself was already in the bill.
00:49:57.000 It was never taken out.
00:49:58.000 So, Amber, you were mentioning something about this like not being true or what is it?
00:50:02.000 Well, it's kind of a subterfuge.
00:50:03.000 I read the provision he's talking about, and what it does is it caps the amount that states can be reimbursed when they have illegal aliens on the Medicaid payroll, and it also caps the amount that federal Medicaid dollars go towards paying for emergency room visits from illegal aliens.
00:50:20.000 So it's not a full ban.
00:50:22.000 It just slightly reduces the amount that states get back from the federal government when they have, which I think it's like 20 states that allow illegal aliens to get coverage.
00:50:30.000 How would you like to do that?
00:50:31.000 Usually through the CHIPS program.
00:50:33.000 What is the CHIPS program?
00:50:34.000 It's like the childhood nutrition stuff.
00:50:37.000 Ah, it's a big trick.
00:50:38.000 Yeah.
00:50:39.000 I say we, let's just get rid of all the people.
00:50:40.000 And emergency room coverage on the state level, too.
00:50:43.000 All entitlement's gone.
00:50:44.000 Yeah.
00:50:45.000 All of them.
00:50:46.000 You'd probably lose the next election.
00:50:48.000 Yeah, communism is favored for that reason.
00:50:54.000 I think there's a tendency of countries to drift towards communism because who's the guy with that famous saying that something like the United States will last until politicians realize they can offer up tax one of the founders.
00:51:07.000 Yeah, when you can offer themselves money from the tax coffers when they can vote to pay.
00:51:14.000 Something like that.
00:51:15.000 So where we are currently at, if you went back to the founding of this nation and said we would have a social security system, they would laugh and be like, what?
00:51:25.000 What do you mean?
00:51:26.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:51:27.000 We're going to take just roughly half of all of the money of everybody in the country who works and then distribute it amongst everybody else.
00:51:35.000 They'd be like, that's insane.
00:51:37.000 And now we're here saying, well, we have to have it.
00:51:40.000 We have to have it.
00:51:40.000 Well, yeah, because people rely on it.
00:51:42.000 They've set their retirements as their, they've made that their retirement plan, which is a terrible idea because it was only supposed to be like, like when they started Social Security, it was like 65 was the life expectancy for the average man.
00:51:57.000 And it was basically to prevent women from ending up destitute when their husband passed away.
00:52:05.000 And now it's just like, you know, anyone that can come up with some kind of injury and get onto Social Security, you know, it doesn't matter how old they are.
00:52:12.000 People that are overweight get onto Social Security.
00:52:15.000 There are people that will, you know, they're like, oh, I'm too big to work or I have my, you know, pain and blah, blah, blah.
00:52:20.000 I can't work.
00:52:21.000 And they'll get onto Social Security all of them.
00:52:22.000 Well, the SSDI program has a lot of problems because if you have a disability where you could work part-time, for example, you have to be very careful about how much money you make because if you make over a certain income, you get kicked off.
00:52:35.000 So they just all don't work at all.
00:52:37.000 Yeah.
00:52:37.000 Which is disgusting.
00:52:39.000 Once you give people different rights or start different entitlement programs, it becomes extremely politically unpalatable to strip away any of this stuff, any of this stuff back without people getting extremely pissed, obviously.
00:52:54.000 This stuff's true for a lot of different entitlement programs, but obviously once you're giving out stuff for so long and now the government rolls that back, people are going to get pissed.
00:53:03.000 I think that was a big thing during Prohibition too.
00:53:06.000 People were like, we've been drinking for so long.
00:53:07.000 Now you're going to roll this stuff back.
00:53:09.000 I think that's also become the case now with abortion.
00:53:12.000 Women have had access to abortion in most of our country for so long.
00:53:16.000 Now when you mention, which the Trump administration wisely hasn't mentioned at all throughout this entire administration, very interestingly, that we completely overlooked, by the way.
00:53:24.000 But, you know, now it's going to be impossible to roll that back because women have had access to abortion for so long.
00:53:29.000 It would make it a lot more difficult to.
00:53:31.000 Wait a minute.
00:53:32.000 You realize that Trump is like, no, this is a state's rights issue now.
00:53:37.000 And that was the intent of the administration.
00:53:40.000 Yeah, I think it was politically savvy for them to lay off the issue that's been dragging down Republicans for so long.
00:53:49.000 I also think they actually encouraged, there was a case in Texas about the abortion pill that they encouraged judges to dismiss because maybe you know more specifically about it, but I think it was how there's issues with mephopristone, I believe, the abortion pill that is more threatening to women's health than previously led to believe.
00:54:07.000 But then the Trump administration encouraged judges to dismiss this case and not push it forward.
00:54:12.000 They're not trying to make the abortion issue an issue at all.
00:54:15.000 My larger point here, though, is that when women have, or anybody has access to abortion or rights or different entitlement programs for so long, it becomes unpopular to strip those back or take those rights away.
00:54:27.000 I mean, that's fairly.
00:54:28.000 I think the way to do it for Social Security, like the only way that would be politically feasible is you have to reimburse everyone exactly the amount that they've paid in.
00:54:38.000 And then for people who are close to or at retirement age, perhaps open up an account privately for them.
00:54:47.000 Like a sunsetting event.
00:54:49.000 It's complicated.
00:54:49.000 One thing we could do is we could install lights in people's hands that when you're about to turn 30, they blink red.
00:54:55.000 And then when you turn 30, it blinks red.
00:54:57.000 We need caps and reforms.
00:54:58.000 Allow people an option.
00:55:00.000 Sarah, she knows what I'm talking about.
00:55:02.000 Let people like an HCA.
00:55:04.000 Look, if we'd have pegged the Social Security fund or the money that the Social Security fund, the money that's supposed to go to Social Security, if you'd have pegged it to the stock market or made an investment account with that same money, you wouldn't have any problem with the only get like 75 cents back on the dollar because of inflation for Social Security.
00:55:22.000 I have a lot of people who are going to be able to do it.
00:55:23.000 It needs to be restructured or else it's going to destroy the dollar.
00:55:27.000 What I think is total BS is the cap on Roth IRAs of what is it?
00:55:32.000 Up to $7,000, I think, last year.
00:55:34.000 There's an income limit and there's a contribution limit.
00:55:38.000 So interesting you mentioned that because I was very curious about this myself.
00:55:41.000 I actually read into it and the reason why the Roth limit was so low is because it was purposefully planned for low to middle income people and they didn't want it to be abused by people who did make it.
00:55:53.000 How is it abused?
00:55:54.000 Because if you have enough money to invest something like $20,000 some odd dollar, invest $20,000 or plus some odd dollars and still reap those tax benefits, like there are other ways.
00:56:03.000 You're still paying the tax.
00:56:04.000 You're just paying it up front.
00:56:05.000 That's what Senator Roth, when he tried to make, when he made the Roth IRA thing a thing, was the reasoning.
00:56:12.000 They started disincentivizing people from using this really awesome retirement account.
00:56:16.000 And it's not because of they didn't want rich people to abuse it.
00:56:19.000 It's because they wanted people wedded to Social Security.
00:56:22.000 Well, get rid of it all.
00:56:23.000 All of it.
00:56:24.000 You name it.
00:56:25.000 No more Rhodes.
00:56:27.000 Nothing.
00:56:28.000 You sound like Thomas Massey.
00:56:29.000 Libertarians.
00:56:30.000 Yeah.
00:56:30.000 No, I don't agree with libertarians.
00:56:31.000 That's why they only get a point or two in any general election.
00:56:33.000 Yeah, the best they ever did, I looked it up, was 3.3 with Gary Johnson.
00:56:37.000 Oh, wow.
00:56:37.000 Dave Smith didn't do better than that.
00:56:39.000 Dave Smith didn't do that.
00:56:40.000 I'm shocked.
00:56:41.000 Wow.
00:56:41.000 Oh, okay.
00:56:41.000 I wonder why he didn't.
00:56:42.000 Nobody's a libertarian because everybody wants to tell other people what to do with their own.
00:56:46.000 Okay, okay, hold on.
00:56:47.000 Elon, you do know what the Libertarian Party is, right?
00:56:51.000 I don't think the Libertarian Party knows what the Libertarian Party is.
00:56:54.000 It is an amalgam of degenerates who want their degenerate things to be legal.
00:57:00.000 So they band together and basically say, I'll make my degenerate thing illegal, and then you can have your degenerate thing be illegal.
00:57:06.000 Deal?
00:57:07.000 That's what the Libertarian Party is.
00:57:08.000 Have you been to one of their conventions?
00:57:10.000 I have.
00:57:10.000 And it's half that and half Ron Paul fans.
00:57:13.000 So the thing is, I think younger right-wingers have some affinity towards some of the ideals of libertarianism.
00:57:19.000 But when I turned hard against the way it manifests in the Libertarian Party is when they had a rally with literal communists and socialist groups.
00:57:26.000 And that made me realize this against the imperial war machine.
00:57:31.000 There are people that call themselves Angela McCurdle and others.
00:57:34.000 Angela McCartle is not a socialist, but there are people who are rallying with communists.
00:57:38.000 Hold on, there are people.
00:57:40.000 Hold on.
00:57:40.000 There are people in the Libertarian Party that would call themselves Libertarian Socialists.
00:57:45.000 People like Vosh considers himself a libertarian socialist.
00:57:48.000 I'm not talking about those people.
00:57:49.000 Libertarian Socialist?
00:57:50.000 No, I'm talking about at this rally that the Libertarian Party in our country teamed up with different literal socialist and communist groups because they had common parts.
00:58:01.000 I think that is disgusting.
00:58:03.000 And I couldn't do any more apologentsia for the party.
00:58:06.000 they should completely be abolished.
00:58:07.000 And like all the influencers within.
00:58:11.000 Yeah, we should totally abolish the Libertarian Party because they're a Trojan horse for the far left and they're literal apologists for communists of socialists.
00:58:19.000 Well, they're willing to work with them.
00:58:20.000 Well, no, but what do you have to do?
00:58:22.000 Why abolish the Libertarian Party?
00:58:23.000 Because if you're going to abolish parties, why don't you just abolish the far left?
00:58:27.000 Yeah, and their allies, the far left and their allies, which are the libertarians.
00:58:30.000 I mean, if we're going to do that, clearly If we're just high in the sky, whatever we want, can we get a big boat, put all the leftists on it, and then send them off to Venezuela?
00:58:39.000 That would be far more effective than going after the Libertarian Party, just going after leftists.
00:58:43.000 Or Cuba?
00:58:45.000 Cuba.
00:58:45.000 Putting him on a boat would be nicer than putting him on a plane.
00:58:49.000 A helicopter?
00:58:50.000 Well, I mean.
00:58:52.000 Well, I got to tell you, I went on a helicopter tour of Atlantic City.
00:58:56.000 They're scary.
00:58:57.000 Libertarians?
00:58:58.000 Well, libertarians are scary for different reasons.
00:59:00.000 No, I did a helicopter tour of Atlantic City.
00:59:02.000 Oh, yeah.
00:59:04.000 It was one of these crash-alls.
00:59:05.000 Helicopters.
00:59:05.000 Yeah, it was terrifying.
00:59:06.000 I've been in a couple hellicits.
00:59:07.000 They're scary.
00:59:09.000 I mean, I've been in a good helicopter once where it's like there's actual seats and everything.
00:59:12.000 Now, this one in Atlantic City was like literally sitting in a, I felt like I was sitting on like a millimeter of sheet metal.
00:59:20.000 Damn.
00:59:20.000 And straight up and I was like, I'm ready to land.
00:59:24.000 A buddy of mine owns one of those helicopters they call the Little Birds that the Special Forces guys will be sitting on the side and hauling around.
00:59:31.000 I've been on one of those and that thing is pretty crazy.
00:59:34.000 I was advocating for sending leftists to a socialist paradise.
00:59:39.000 I think that is a gift and we should tax all right-wingers at 50% until we pay to be able to give leftists their socialist utopia by sending them to Cuba.
00:59:52.000 I don't mind sending them to Cuba.
00:59:54.000 And I believe no conservative should argue against it.
00:59:56.000 Everyone on the right should agree with me that we will tax every penny we have to from you.
01:00:00.000 It is a sacrifice I am willing to make.
01:00:02.000 Okay, but we have to send the neocons too, because if not, they're going to be calling for regime change and socialist utopia.
01:00:09.000 They're going to be Boeing and Lockheed Martin are going to get all the contracts to orchestrate the coup, and then we're going to be involved in nation building.
01:00:16.000 Don't talk about our president.
01:00:18.000 Amber's after a lot now.
01:00:19.000 She's like, got to send the neocons.
01:00:22.000 I didn't know he was a neocon.
01:00:24.000 Well, I believe in peace through strength like the president does, and I don't, you know.
01:00:28.000 All right, all right.
01:00:29.000 Let's jump to this from the Independent.
01:00:31.000 Trump says he will take a look at deporting Musk as feud reaches new height.
01:00:36.000 The world's richest person has been criticizing Trump's signature legislation as costing far too much.
01:00:41.000 So a reporter asked Trump, will you deport Elon?
01:00:44.000 He says, we'll take a look at it.
01:00:45.000 Maybe we've got to send a Doge.
01:00:46.000 Now, Trump has been saying this over and over again that Elon is upset because the EV mandate is going away, despite the fact that Elon's been saying for like five years he hates the EV mandate.
01:00:55.000 I agree with Elon Musk.
01:00:57.000 In 2022, he said if the EV mandate was gone, our market position would significantly improve.
01:01:02.000 And he's like, I will say that again.
01:01:04.000 And he's right.
01:01:05.000 I looked at electric cars.
01:01:06.000 I looked at all the other companies.
01:01:08.000 I will leave them unnamed.
01:01:09.000 They are garbage compared to Tesla's.
01:01:11.000 And so that's why I ended up buying a Tesla.
01:01:14.000 Elon's position is that because of the EV mandates, it allows these failing companies to be competitive.
01:01:21.000 But if you were to get rid of that, Tesla would be the only game in town.
01:01:24.000 So he wants to get rid of it.
01:01:26.000 Trump is acting like he doesn't want to get rid of it and entertaining, possibly deporting him because Elon says the big beautiful bill is the death knell for this country.
01:01:37.000 So I think that Elon's chief concern, of course, is the deficit.
01:01:40.000 But I will say multiple sources in Congress told me that Elon called them directly and told them not to get rid of the EV subsidies.
01:01:48.000 Really?
01:01:48.000 Yeah.
01:01:49.000 So I think maybe he was saying something different publicly than he was doing behind closed doors.
01:01:54.000 But this response from Trump is classic Trump, right?
01:01:56.000 Like if a reporter asks him a question about something and he hasn't really thought of it before, he always says, we'll take a look.
01:02:01.000 We're going to look at it.
01:02:02.000 So it's like the standard bear answer.
01:02:04.000 Amber, very respectfully, I don't think Musk's chief concern is the deficit.
01:02:08.000 I think Musk's chief concern is his bottom line.
01:02:10.000 And I think that's always been the case.
01:02:12.000 I think he was also never really MAGA.
01:02:14.000 I think he was always just trying to appropriate the MAGA movement for his ends.
01:02:18.000 And I thought that was always very, very clear.
01:02:20.000 I think he has a ton of business interests that relate to the government.
01:02:23.000 For his ends.
01:02:24.000 Why bother with Doge then?
01:02:26.000 It was just a way to him to flex influence and cut different programs that he was or wasn't a fan of and to exercise power within the government.
01:02:33.000 What do you believe his ends are?
01:02:34.000 I think he has a lot of, I know he has a lot of government contracts.
01:02:37.000 And actually, I think Steve Bannon.
01:02:39.000 I think he's going to be his interests.
01:02:42.000 He's trying to advance his business.
01:02:43.000 Hey, but he spent $100 million on Trump's reelection campaign, and that would have been enough for him to keep his government contracts.
01:02:51.000 Instead, he risked it all by doing Doge.
01:02:52.000 I think the Doge stuff was a goodie for him.
01:02:55.000 I think he enjoyed spending time in the White House and orbiting around Trump and overstaying his welcome.
01:03:00.000 And I think I agree with Steve Bannon when Steve Bannon describes him as a fake MAGA and an oligarch trying to exert his own.
01:03:06.000 I agree he's not a MAGA, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care about the deficit.
01:03:09.000 I don't think that's his chief concern.
01:03:11.000 I think he uses that to posture it, just like Thomas Massey and Rand Paul do.
01:03:15.000 So my question is, if you had to choose, if you had to choose one to deport either Elon or Elad, who would you choose?
01:03:24.000 Let the records show that Amber has pointed at Elad.
01:03:27.000 Well, I don't think it matters who Amber thinks.
01:03:29.000 I think it matters who President Trump thinks.
01:03:32.000 I think it matters who President Trump thinks.
01:03:34.000 You ask President Trump who he'd rather deport.
01:03:36.000 Trump's going to be like, who?
01:03:38.000 Exactly.
01:03:38.000 Well, I think he's going to say Elon because I honestly think the only reason he said we'll take a look is because he doesn't know what they're talking about.
01:03:45.000 That's just his response to everything is we'll take a look at it.
01:03:48.000 He said that all the time.
01:03:50.000 But it's the right response because let's say there's like, you know, Elon kicks a dog or something and then screams, you know, I hate America.
01:03:59.000 Trump doesn't know this.
01:04:00.000 He hasn't seen the news.
01:04:00.000 He doesn't know what's going on.
01:04:02.000 The question he's getting asked is going to be referenced to something that he does not, he has not looked into.
01:04:06.000 He never rules anything out.
01:04:07.000 Anytime a reporter says, will you rule out running for a third term?
01:04:10.000 I don't know.
01:04:11.000 We'll have to take a look.
01:04:12.000 That is what he says.
01:04:13.000 Just if I could trash Elon a little bit, I actually think he's not only fake MAGA, he's antithetical to MAGA because he supports mass H-1B visas continuing to flood into the US.
01:04:22.000 And you know, MAGA.
01:04:23.000 Completely not.
01:04:24.000 And he tries to appropriate the facade of MAGA.
01:04:27.000 So while Trump's trying to get rid of mass migration from happening in our country, I think Elon Musk and his business interests want to flood our country with more migrants.
01:04:34.000 I think this stuff was inevitable.
01:04:39.000 What is the gold card?
01:04:40.000 It was a good idea, but I don't think he was very serious about it or he's going.
01:04:43.000 They're doing it.
01:04:44.000 People have bought it.
01:04:46.000 Well, hey, if you're willing, you know, I think we should have more rich people in our country.
01:04:50.000 They contribute a disproportionate amount to their tax revenue.
01:04:54.000 I think we should just get rid of all taxes on people who make more than $100,000 a year and only tax people who make under $100,000 at 100%.
01:05:00.000 I kind of think the reverse.
01:05:02.000 We call it the Bloomberg model.
01:05:05.000 But in all seriousness, that was Bloomberg's actual proposal, not like literally taxing everybody, but Bloomberg's campaign proposal was tax the poor.
01:05:13.000 Did you know that?
01:05:13.000 It was very regressive, yeah.
01:05:15.000 He said that poor people make bad decisions.
01:05:17.000 And that's why.
01:05:18.000 so we should tax them and take away their money so that we can decide for them what they should have.
01:05:22.000 There was a study that I, or there was an article that I was reading that was a study that said the same thing, that a big part of the reason why people are poor is because they make bad decisions.
01:05:31.000 There's a lot of people that are like, oh, life's hard and blah, blah, blah.
01:05:33.000 And it's like, fair enough.
01:05:34.000 You know, people can run into hard times and stuff.
01:05:36.000 But if you consistently make bad decisions, you're going to end up in bad places with bad stances in your life.
01:05:44.000 Well, they are among them.
01:05:45.000 It should be you have to pay more taxes if you're a communist.
01:05:49.000 So when you're filing your IREX form, like the first thing it should ask you is like name, you know, date, address.
01:05:55.000 Are you a communist?
01:05:56.000 Yes or no?
01:05:57.000 If yes, instantly increases your tax rate up to 50%.
01:06:00.000 Alligator Alcatraz and then deport.
01:06:03.000 All communists.
01:06:04.000 All communists.
01:06:05.000 Alligator Alcatraz and then off to Cuba.
01:06:08.000 Bounce them from Florida right over to the...
01:06:17.000 I mean, let's get all the leftists.
01:06:19.000 You're going to need to offer them a lot of goodies so they receive.
01:06:21.000 They can't leave.
01:06:22.000 Elect?
01:06:23.000 Are you joking?
01:06:25.000 No, you're not.
01:06:25.000 There will be 100 leftists will come to my commune and I'll get 3,000 votes every time.
01:06:30.000 And there will be big walls to keep them in for their safety.
01:06:33.000 Yes.
01:06:33.000 That's communism.
01:06:35.000 That was East Germany, too.
01:06:37.000 Yeah, idea is so good.
01:06:39.000 You got to force people at gunpoint.
01:06:41.000 Indeed.
01:06:42.000 Anyway, I think Elon is correct about the deficit, but I don't know why he's so adamant about it right now, as if he just discovered we have a massive deficit.
01:06:52.000 To be fair, we were talking about this, I can't remember if we're talking about this on culture war or not, but when the debt to GDP ratio hits like 120-something is like historically, we see nations collapse and we're there.
01:07:07.000 So that could be the concern.
01:07:10.000 That's true, but I also saw something.
01:07:12.000 I'm looking right now, but I saw something today.
01:07:14.000 Japan's debt to GDP ratio is something like 200% or something like that.
01:07:20.000 And they don't seem to be on the way out.
01:07:26.000 Japan, yeah.
01:07:28.000 I disagree.
01:07:28.000 Isn't their birth rate like 0.4?
01:07:32.000 Japan's debt to GDP ratio is 236.70% of the country's gross domestic population.
01:07:39.000 All right.
01:07:40.000 So I looked it up.
01:07:42.000 Between 90 and 120%, you have stagnation and inflation.
01:07:47.000 Between 130 and 150, you have political instability, capital flight, and austerity.
01:07:52.000 And then if it exceeds 200, it's typically where you see total collapse, like Zimbabwe and Venezuela.
01:07:59.000 Interesting.
01:08:00.000 It's bad to be in this much debt, especially when you're the reserve currency of the world.
01:08:05.000 I mean, it does give us more leeway to borrow, but the rest of the world has to feel like a safe place to envision.
01:08:15.000 Japan's debt to GDP ratio is 260% within Japan.
01:08:19.000 That's crazy.
01:08:20.000 Wow.
01:08:21.000 Yeah.
01:08:22.000 But it says right there, it's within Japan.
01:08:24.000 That's the difference.
01:08:25.000 Not like debt outside of the country.
01:08:27.000 Right, right, right.
01:08:28.000 It's why it's 260.
01:08:30.000 That's crazy.
01:08:33.000 Well, the end is now.
01:08:34.000 It was nice knowing you guys.
01:08:36.000 Drag.
01:08:36.000 Don't forget you've got to do that.
01:08:38.000 I think we did talk about civil war last time I was here.
01:08:41.000 That tends to come up.
01:08:42.000 Yeah.
01:08:42.000 Especially in the context of the way that politics is in the U.S. today.
01:08:49.000 It's not a surprise.
01:08:50.000 Budget showdown 2029 U.S. debt clock.
01:08:53.000 Debt to GDP will be 140%.
01:08:56.000 Wow.
01:08:57.000 It's nuts.
01:08:58.000 Yeah, I feel like the immediate threat we face is the mass migration problem and Democrats pumping the census so they can steal the election.
01:09:07.000 Well, this is an important point because obviously all of these CBO projections about the bill don't take into account how much public assistance is being spent on illegal immigrants.
01:09:19.000 Right.
01:09:20.000 Yeah, that's I was talking to someone today about the deficit because they were concerned about the bill.
01:09:25.000 And I said the argument from the from the right that opposed the bill is that it's adding to the deficit.
01:09:31.000 But the argument from the pro-Trump faction is that when you deport all these illegal immigrants, it's going to dramatically reduce spending.
01:09:37.000 There's a lot of fraud and then it should balance itself out.
01:09:40.000 You also have a higher housing supply.
01:09:41.000 Wages will go up, which means more tax revenue collected by the government, possibly more inflation too.
01:09:47.000 I mean, the demand for jobs will be skyrocketing.
01:09:50.000 So you're going to be able to negotiate for higher salaries and wages.
01:09:54.000 I think they also argue that it's reducing the amount that the deficit would increase, was one of the taglines for the bill.
01:10:02.000 Yeah, the T Party said that too.
01:10:04.000 They were like, yeah, it's increasing the deficit, but by less than we were expecting to.
01:10:09.000 And they're calling that reducing the power.
01:10:11.000 That's what Joe Biden said when the inflationary rate went down to 5% instead of 9.
01:10:16.000 Yeah, it's not.
01:10:17.000 He was like, prices are rising slower.
01:10:20.000 I do think that whatever we get from Trump is still better than what we would have gotten for Democrats.
01:10:23.000 So what is there to complain about in the end, I guess?
01:10:26.000 We're not getting a rainbow and Skittles and candy canes.
01:10:28.000 What's going on?
01:10:29.000 It's the art of the possible.
01:10:30.000 I mean, if it was Kamala Harris, we'd still have all of the problems at the border.
01:10:37.000 We'd still have all of the people that are illegal immigrants here in the country.
01:10:43.000 We'd still be paying for trans kids.
01:10:45.000 Yeah, there'd be more of it.
01:10:47.000 There'd be more children.
01:10:49.000 National mandate.
01:10:50.000 Well, speaking of that, let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.
01:10:53.000 Trans swimmer Leah Thomas's wins will be wiped and runners up move to first place after Penn bowed to Trump crackdown.
01:11:02.000 The DOE announced Tuesday that Penn is adopting strict definitions for male and female competitors under White House guidelines and that the school will ban trans athletes from women's competitions and erase Thomas from the school's record books.
01:11:14.000 And only in a strange moment in time.
01:11:18.000 But in the future, when children are reading and learning about history, they're going to say there was this brave moment in the early 2000s where they had men playing on women's sports teams for some reason.
01:11:28.000 He saved this for MAGA Month.
01:11:31.000 MAGA Month indeed.
01:11:32.000 MAGA Month indeed.
01:11:32.000 Show off your pride.
01:11:34.000 You guys had a person, a person who had a private secret.
01:11:36.000 Yeah, our White House correspondent Reagan Reese was there.
01:11:38.000 She got a couple of questions in with the education secretary, Linda McMahon, who was like, Yeah, look, this is a roadmap for basically every negotiation we're going to do with all of the colleges who let this happen because the only reason UPenn is stripping the titles and apologizing to all the swimmers impacted is because the Trump administration paused $175 million in funding.
01:11:58.000 So they basically did to UPenn the same thing that they did to Harvard, and UPenn really wants that money.
01:12:03.000 So they felt that they had no choice.
01:12:04.000 Amazing.
01:12:05.000 Okay, so now one other funny thing, sorry to interrupt, but Linda McMahon also told our reporter that she talks to Trump privately about this issue, obviously, and he thinks it's deeply disturbing.
01:12:15.000 Which he should.
01:12:16.000 I think we need to commend the Trump administration for willing to exercise and use power and twist the arms of these different schools and administrations to doing what is genuinely right.
01:12:26.000 And that's a very important thing because in the past, there are different administrations sometimes feel like threatening to cut funding or whatnot is like beyond the red line of what's acceptable for you to do to try to achieve, you know, whatever ends or right whatever wrongs are happening in these schools.
01:12:40.000 So I think it's a good thing that the President-Trump administration is willing to use this power and it's clearly bearing fruit and working very well.
01:12:48.000 I think we should see other colleges start to capitulate on other rules they're breaking too.
01:12:53.000 Well, I mean, the administration should use everything, every bit of power at its disposal to influence whether or not men are allowed in women's sports, whether men are allowed in women's changing rooms in any school, in any college at all.
01:13:13.000 If you're of the opinion that men can become women and women can become men, you shouldn't be in a position to make decisions about children or young people at all.
01:13:25.000 Yeah, the LGBT community has been catching a lot of L's recently.
01:13:29.000 I know there's also been a couple of Supreme Court decisions that were recently released last week.
01:13:34.000 One of them being that they ended up backing up the Tennessee state laws banning transgender surgeries for minors that I know many Democrats were in dismay over.
01:13:42.000 There were also a few different things.
01:13:43.000 So closing out Pride Month on a high note, so it seems.
01:13:46.000 Yeah, they allowed the Montgomery County Maryland parents to opt their kids out of the LGBTQ storybook hour in elementary school.
01:13:55.000 The idea that you wouldn't be allowed to opt out is insane.
01:13:59.000 Interesting tidbit of the Montgomery School District specifically, the groups that were most vocal about this were religious Muslim people.
01:14:06.000 These weren't like religious Christians or whatnot.
01:14:08.000 I covered a couple of protests that they had there years ago.
01:14:11.000 It was predominantly 75, 80 percent plus Muslim people who were protesting over having the options to opt out from LGBTQ material in their schools.
01:14:22.000 You know, I mean, look.
01:14:26.000 They would be able to leave the classrooms while the books were being taught in the classrooms.
01:14:30.000 I'm not a Muslim, and I'm not particularly partial to the Islamic faith.
01:14:34.000 You're not Muslim?
01:14:34.000 I am not.
01:14:35.000 And I'm not particularly partial to the Islamic faith, but they're right.
01:14:37.000 We're impartial to that.
01:14:39.000 You shouldn't have any issue.
01:14:43.000 A parent shouldn't have any issue saying, I don't want my kids learning that, especially when it comes to things that have to do with sexuality, right?
01:14:49.000 Like if a parent decides, I don't want my kids learning about sexuality beyond anatomy, then I don't want my kids.
01:14:56.000 That shouldn't, that should be a no-brainer.
01:14:58.000 I got a question, though.
01:14:59.000 How much do you guys think that the reason why they were allowing males was because the Democrats were threatening to pull funding?
01:15:08.000 I don't know.
01:15:08.000 Well, they certainly were.
01:15:09.000 I enlarged it.
01:15:10.000 Because Biden tried to rewrite Title IX to include gender identity as a protected category.
01:15:17.000 And so these universities, to some extent, I think a lot of it is their ideologically captured, but certainly they were worried that if that rule got codified, that they would lose funding under Title IX if they didn't do it.
01:15:30.000 That was definitely part of it.
01:15:32.000 But Biden ultimately wasn't allowed to do it.
01:15:34.000 Thank God.
01:15:35.000 Also in the Big Beautiful bill is increasing the endowment tax on universities.
01:15:39.000 Oh, very nice.
01:15:41.000 Good.
01:15:41.000 Up to 1.4%, I believe.
01:15:44.000 I think that needs to scale, but it needs to scale because most colleges and universities actually don't have a very impressive endowment.
01:15:51.000 And all the Ivy Leagues generally do.
01:15:53.000 And the top five have endowments bigger than 80% of the bottom ones combined, something like that.
01:15:59.000 That's true.
01:16:00.000 Some crazy 1%er issue over there in the endowments as well.
01:16:03.000 Leah Thomas was, it was, Riley Gaines was the one that was swimming against her, right?
01:16:08.000 Yeah.
01:16:09.000 Yeah.
01:16:09.000 Well, not anymore.
01:16:10.000 They didn't.
01:16:11.000 They need to run that back.
01:16:12.000 No.
01:16:12.000 That guy offer fucking disqualified.
01:16:14.000 Does he have to give Riley the trophy now?
01:16:16.000 Because remember they told her that she didn't get to keep the trophy because they wanted to give it to him.
01:16:21.000 Wow.
01:16:22.000 Is he going to have to DHL this to Riley Gaines' house?
01:16:26.000 That's so wild.
01:16:28.000 Send it on over.
01:16:29.000 Yeah.
01:16:29.000 Guess he delivered himself.
01:16:30.000 That'd be great.
01:16:31.000 With a handwritten apology.
01:16:33.000 Okay.
01:16:33.000 Well, if Trump's agenda is not fulfilled and the Democrats cheat the census, this will be reversed the moment they win.
01:16:40.000 If they win in 2028, they're going to open the borders, flood the country.
01:16:43.000 Census will come in.
01:16:44.000 Democrats will get 87 new congressional seats and electoral college votes, and no Republican will win an election ever again.
01:16:50.000 I can't imagine what it would be like for the Democrats to actually go back to the Biden policy when it comes to the border.
01:16:59.000 Like, how are Americans going to react?
01:17:02.000 Obviously, you know, people will vote and they'll vote for whatever their interests are, and they might not be thinking about the border.
01:17:10.000 You know, maybe in three years when they're actually in the booth, it doesn't occur to them or they're like, oh, you know, they won't do that or whatever.
01:17:18.000 But I do really, I'm very curious as to what the American people will do if it's like, oh, now there's another massive invasion of illegal immigrants.
01:17:28.000 I think the Republicans have a deep bench right now, especially compared to the Democrats.
01:17:32.000 So whether it be J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, Ron DeSantis against likely AOC.
01:17:38.000 All of this is dependent on the economy.
01:17:41.000 Sure.
01:17:42.000 Well, you also have Senate and House to consider, which could provide a stopgap if there were a Democratic president.
01:17:47.000 And the congressional map is looking better and better for Republicans because courts have struck down a lot of the Democratic gerrymandering.
01:17:53.000 Plus, the DNC is currently in massive debt.
01:17:56.000 I mean, I want you to be right.
01:17:59.000 I want this to be true.
01:18:00.000 And I want to see the Republicans win over the Democrats.
01:18:04.000 But look, man, like I said, and I've been saying this for a while, and I will die on this hill.
01:18:10.000 The economy is going to be the deciding factor.
01:18:14.000 If the economy is good, the Republicans can win.
01:18:16.000 If the economy is bad, the Republicans can not win.
01:18:20.000 And what we get will be worse than anything we've ever had.
01:18:24.000 Hold on.
01:18:25.000 If the economy is good, it's not a guarantee the Republicans will win.
01:18:28.000 No, no, I'm saying they can win.
01:18:30.000 Well, can, depending on what the issue becomes.
01:18:33.000 So when the economy is bad, people will just choose whoever is not in power under the presumption it will make the economy better.
01:18:39.000 But if the party in power makes the economy good, people are like the way it should be.
01:18:43.000 I'm mad about this social issue now.
01:18:46.000 And so we don't know what that social issue might be.
01:18:47.000 I mean, also, like, immigration was the biggest issue in a lot of states in 2024, even though the economy was terrible.
01:18:54.000 Yeah.
01:18:55.000 Well, I think they were tied together.
01:18:57.000 It was that viral video of that black guy going in Boston, I think it was, to a community center.
01:19:03.000 And they were like, nah, it's housing for illegal immigrants now.
01:19:05.000 And he was yelling like, are you kidding me?
01:19:07.000 Like, our community center was just taken away.
01:19:09.000 He's like, I come here and I can't have it.
01:19:11.000 So that was in people's faces.
01:19:13.000 In Chicago, they tried to build a camp on the south side.
01:19:16.000 And it was in a black neighborhood.
01:19:18.000 And the people there lost their mind.
01:19:19.000 So they canceled the project.
01:19:21.000 People were like, you are not putting this in our neighborhoods.
01:19:25.000 So that really nuked them.
01:19:27.000 But we'll see.
01:19:28.000 We got a year.
01:19:29.000 We got just about a year.
01:19:31.000 Yeah, for the midterms.
01:19:33.000 The campaign cycle is going to start in six months, and it's going to be full swing one year from now.
01:19:37.000 And it is going to be nuts.
01:19:39.000 Yeah.
01:19:40.000 Yeah.
01:19:42.000 You'll see a lot of Republicans are going to be regretting this vote, I think, to be honest with you.
01:19:49.000 I do think there's going to be a lot of people.
01:19:51.000 I don't know about that.
01:19:52.000 What do you think?
01:19:53.000 Because I think that the stuff from the 2A community is going to be making a lot of stink.
01:19:58.000 Yeah, but it's a year from now.
01:19:59.000 It's a political eternity.
01:20:01.000 I think they're stuck between a rock and a hard place because if they voted against the bill, then President Trump would definitely send a primary their way, somebody to primary it.
01:20:09.000 I think there might end up being a lot of people getting primaried, to be honest with you.
01:20:12.000 Yeah, but not explicitly with Trump's endorsement and support.
01:20:16.000 Who's retiring?
01:20:17.000 Tom Tillis, it was?
01:20:19.000 Yeah.
01:20:20.000 Wow.
01:20:21.000 Apparently Michael Wadley is going to run.
01:20:24.000 I don't think they'll be able to find anybody who's going to beat Massey.
01:20:27.000 I don't think so either.
01:20:28.000 Yeah.
01:20:29.000 Yeah.
01:20:29.000 I think he's trying to make an example out of Massey, though.
01:20:33.000 He's got to backfire.
01:20:35.000 If he doesn't defeat Massey after pouring all of this money in and having La Civita and Fabrizio go in to combat him, then you're going to open up the floodgates for other Congress members to think that they can openly buck Trump, too.
01:20:47.000 Does a Congressman really want to go through all the, you know, Massey, he'll fight to the freeze?
01:20:51.000 No, Thomas Massey, yes, Massey.
01:20:58.000 The other thing to understand with Trump and endorsements, though, is that he really cares about his win record.
01:21:04.000 So if he senses that his primary challenge is not going well, he will pull an endorsement and he'll endorse the person who's running ahead of, I mean, okay, recent example, Arizona, Karen Taylor Robson is running for governor.
01:21:16.000 He gets, he gives her the endorsement.
01:21:19.000 She's not performing that great compared to Andy Biggs.
01:21:22.000 So a month later, he co-endors Andy Biggs just to hedge his bets, right?
01:21:26.000 And he was going to, he was going to endorse Thomas Massey's primary challenger in the last election.
01:21:32.000 The person was polling terribly.
01:21:34.000 So a few weeks before election day, he called Thomas Massey and was like, hey, Thomas, do you think I can endorse you?
01:21:40.000 It's going to be great.
01:21:41.000 And he was like, yeah, sure, let's do it.
01:21:42.000 The president loves a winner.
01:21:44.000 What can you say?
01:21:45.000 He does.
01:21:45.000 He does.
01:21:46.000 He told him on the wall.
01:21:46.000 I love the winner.
01:21:47.000 He was like, I'm 54-0, Thomas.
01:21:49.000 I'm 54-0.
01:21:50.000 I mean, he likes the idea of winning those endorsements.
01:21:55.000 Thomas Massey's extremely popular in his district.
01:21:58.000 He is.
01:21:58.000 He's got great numbers, and I don't think that Trump is going to be able to get him out of there.
01:22:06.000 You'd have to find the perfect candidate.
01:22:07.000 And so far, their recruitment efforts are not going well.
01:22:10.000 Yeah, I forget what the criticism of the guy that he's talking about is.
01:22:16.000 Never mind, because I don't remember off the top of my head.
01:22:18.000 But the guy that, like you said, the guy that Trump is looking at or that is looking to stage a state senator, I think.
01:22:26.000 Yeah, he's not going to be that impressive to the people of Kentucky, if I understand correctly.
01:22:34.000 But, I mean, there's a lot of other people that I think that might be in a dangerous situation because of the votes on this stuff.
01:22:46.000 We'll see.
01:22:47.000 Let's jump to this story from the Daily Mail.
01:22:49.000 Check this out.
01:22:50.000 Love Island.
01:22:51.000 How many of you are big fans of Love Island?
01:22:54.000 None.
01:22:56.000 I didn't think you would be.
01:22:58.000 Love Island fans are horrified by Vanna's botched face.
01:23:01.000 So here's the...
01:23:04.000 Oh, wait, I got to refresh it.
01:23:07.000 So here's her face.
01:23:09.000 Rough.
01:23:10.000 Guess the age?
01:23:11.000 I can't answer because I already know.
01:23:13.000 26.
01:23:14.000 23.
01:23:15.000 No. 21.
01:23:19.000 So that picture though, that screenshot is from a hilarious scene where she's talking to one of the dudes on Love Island, and they're talking about how old they are.
01:23:27.000 And he shares his age, whatever.
01:23:31.000 And she tries to get him to guess her age.
01:23:35.000 And of course, he's like, that's a freaking trap.
01:23:37.000 I'm not doing that.
01:23:38.000 And she eventually goes, I'm 21.
01:23:40.000 And his face looks shocked.
01:23:44.000 But then he recovers and he goes, oh, I thought you were younger.
01:23:49.000 She is disgusting.
01:23:52.000 It is absolutely disgusting.
01:23:55.000 I'm sorry, man.
01:23:55.000 Look, I know people are going to be like, that's so mean.
01:23:57.000 Okay, well, young women are getting all this crazy plastic surgery and it is nasty.
01:24:03.000 I think it's really unfortunate and sad because she likely has issues with, you know, her body and how she views herself.
01:24:10.000 I think this body dysmorphia is what I'm diagnosing her with.
01:24:14.000 I don't know, not a doctor, but I think it's actually similar to the issues that so-called transgender people feel with their body dysmorphia and viewing themselves differently in the head and how they outwardly appear.
01:24:24.000 So they just get an obnoxious amount of plastic surgery and looking like a crazy.
01:24:28.000 She almost looks like a transgender when she gets that crazy amount of like bimbo type looking surgery.
01:24:35.000 Some people think that's really hot.
01:24:37.000 I have friends who think this is really, really hot.
01:24:40.000 There are times, like some of these pictures, she looks all right in that, but that she looks her nose is overcooked, her lips are about to burst, and her chest is fake.
01:24:48.000 Uh, that's the heavily filtered version, yeah.
01:24:51.000 But the uh, that's a look that people go after.
01:24:53.000 I think a lot of it is sure, but I bet, I bet it's not majority.
01:24:56.000 I think it's the Instagram face that everyone is trying to get from the plastic surgery because these girls make so much money with like brand deals, and they get so many likes that they think that that is people find attractive.
01:25:08.000 I think there is a line you have to ride to because there are a lot of people who do look good and we don't.
01:25:16.000 You got your boys are into it, dude.
01:25:18.000 Compared to some of the women out there, frankly, hey man, it's to be fair, guys could be into literally anything.
01:25:23.000 Look, to be honest with you, if the option is that or someone that's 150 pounds overweight, I might be like, all right, well, you know, she looks all right.
01:25:32.000 It's just so crazy that young women, like teenage adult women, are getting plastic surgery and looking like weird 80-year-old women.
01:25:40.000 I just miss unique faces.
01:25:41.000 Like, you go back to the models of the 90s, like they were all hot, but they all looked different, right?
01:25:46.000 Like, they all had unique features.
01:25:49.000 And now everybody looks the same.
01:25:51.000 It's like this blow-up doll, like over.
01:25:54.000 Everyone's kind of trying to look like a bimbo look.
01:25:56.000 Is that an offensive word?
01:25:57.000 Is bimbo a derogatory pejorative?
01:25:59.000 Not to me.
01:25:59.000 I mean, probably.
01:26:00.000 I don't know.
01:26:01.000 Did you see that look?
01:26:01.000 That bimbo type look inflated a little bit in the lips, face, and the breasts in a weird way.
01:26:08.000 And I think trans people go for a similar look.
01:26:10.000 It's over plastic, surgerized.
01:26:13.000 Yeah.
01:26:14.000 Did you guys see the Candace Owens feminism debate thing?
01:26:17.000 Is that the Jubilee thing?
01:26:18.000 Yeah, Jubilee.
01:26:19.000 I just, that's, I understand why people watch it, but it's just, I find it unwatchable.
01:26:24.000 I made five minutes in every video in terms of.
01:26:26.000 Yeah, there's no coherent conversation because they're like, yeah, I've been vetted out by the majority.
01:26:30.000 And it's like, well, they didn't even ask a question.
01:26:33.000 But the one woman that Candace was debating looks like she was crafted out of play, though.
01:26:39.000 She looks like the moon guy from NBC or whatever that was back in the day.
01:26:43.000 Her cheeks are implanted.
01:26:44.000 Her lips are like, and I'm like, why are women doing this?
01:26:49.000 I think social media is frying the brains of young people.
01:26:53.000 Yeah, it's the Instagram face thing.
01:26:55.000 Everyone's trying to get their face to look like the...
01:27:01.000 Well, that is the constantly filming videos like this and seeing yourself close up and you're like hyper-fixated on all the flaws.
01:27:09.000 But it's the filters.
01:27:12.000 They're trying to get like the constant filter face.
01:27:15.000 They can look like the filters while they're walking around in the real world.
01:27:19.000 And that's just not.
01:27:20.000 Watched face.
01:27:23.000 I think she feels so sad for her.
01:27:25.000 What?
01:27:25.000 Yeah, well, the lens, the lens, whatever, if it's actually focal lengths of different lenses distort the faces totally could widen and shorten.
01:27:36.000 But no, I think young women, this is a huge issue for young women that we should be attuned to and try to address because we can't have young women being this amount of self-absorbed and self-obsessed with their looks because that'll have downstream consequences.
01:27:50.000 Is it what you're into, Elod?
01:27:52.000 No, no, that girl's not Jewish.
01:27:57.000 The lip injections make me want to just throw up.
01:28:01.000 For real.
01:28:02.000 Like, oh, it's just.
01:28:04.000 Well, when it goes past the outward part of your lip and it feels like it's bleeding.
01:28:10.000 They just look like they got stung by a bee.
01:28:11.000 I'm like, ma'am, do you need an Epi pen?
01:28:14.000 You look like you could pop them.
01:28:15.000 You can some of them.
01:28:16.000 She's anaphylactic hot.
01:28:18.000 It's so messed up.
01:28:19.000 And she's likely going to get a lot more work done.
01:28:21.000 You said she's only 21.
01:28:23.000 I foresee her getting a ton more work done as she ages even more.
01:28:26.000 Oh, yeah.
01:28:26.000 She's only getting worse from here.
01:28:27.000 Because she's going to get addicted to it.
01:28:30.000 She's going to have a leather face and leather face.
01:28:33.000 It's like once you get a little bit, the veil's off.
01:28:36.000 Did you guys hear about Mar-a-Lago face?
01:28:38.000 Yeah.
01:28:38.000 What is that?
01:28:41.000 So all of the socialites you see at the big fancy parties at Mar-a-Lago, a lot of them have the face like this.
01:28:47.000 It's sort of like the 40-year-old, like over-filled, over-Botox kind of look with the big lips.
01:28:53.000 I mean, pretty similar, but for older women, apparently some women are going to plastic surgeons and asking for Mar-a-Lago face.
01:29:01.000 We got this from the week.
01:29:02.000 Mar-a-Lago face.
01:29:04.000 Trump supporters driven by desire to please the president.
01:29:07.000 What?
01:29:07.000 I don't think that's it.
01:29:08.000 Is it it?
01:29:09.000 Which is interesting because the woman he's married to doesn't have Mar-a-Laga face.
01:29:14.000 Like, obviously, Melania has had some work done, but she doesn't look like that.
01:29:21.000 So you have something to say about that.
01:29:22.000 Everything being extremely common in our industry, too.
01:29:24.000 A ton of women in our industry, people who spend time on all the news channels have a ton of work done.
01:29:29.000 It's disgusting.
01:29:30.000 Like you can tell literally anytime someone's had work done.
01:29:36.000 There's like very rare circumstances where you're like, oh, wow, I didn't realize you had plastic surgery done.
01:29:40.000 In almost every single circumstance, you'll see somebody's got plastic surgery.
01:29:43.000 They look like freakish monsters.
01:29:46.000 No, but you don't know.
01:29:47.000 I think plastic surgery is another scourge on society, but I think there is a way to do it right such that you actually can't tell.
01:29:54.000 When you can tell is when somebody obviously went too far.
01:29:57.000 But I think it's become apparent.
01:29:59.000 I don't know the difference between Botox and filler.
01:30:03.000 Botox freezes the muscles, whereas filler replaces fat loss in the face.
01:30:08.000 I'm not trying to be sexist, but it looks like almost any woman who's a newscaster on TV nowadays has that some sort of almost all of them.
01:30:17.000 Face.
01:30:18.000 Megan Kelly admits to getting Botox.
01:30:20.000 I mean, I know a fair amount of women who get regular Botox who you probably wouldn't know unless they told you.
01:30:26.000 But I think the danger is that this stuff is very addicting because when you see yourself every day in the mirror, you're not noticing these minor changes because you see yourself every day.
01:30:35.000 It's like for people who lose a lot of weight, right?
01:30:37.000 Like you probably don't notice until after the first like 40, 50 pounds because you see them every day.
01:30:42.000 So they don't look that different on it.
01:30:43.000 It's like the paper towel effect, they call it.
01:30:46.000 But I think it's the same thing with the plastic surgery.
01:30:49.000 So when women see themselves every day and they're really noticing the facial features and they're like, well, I don't really see that much of a difference with this latest Botox I just got.
01:30:57.000 I think maybe I need fillers in the cheeks to make the cheekbones look higher and it quickly spirals out of control.
01:31:03.000 Yeah.
01:31:03.000 It's very normalized among women.
01:31:06.000 People tried to get me to go Botox before my wedding.
01:31:09.000 Why?
01:31:10.000 Apparently I have like minuscule forehead lines.
01:31:12.000 Well, who cares?
01:31:13.000 I know.
01:31:13.000 That's the thing.
01:31:14.000 It's a other women care.
01:31:15.000 Yeah.
01:31:16.000 I just don't care.
01:31:16.000 That's what it is.
01:31:17.000 It's another woman thing to try to like compete with each other.
01:31:21.000 You know what I think it is?
01:31:23.000 I think smart women tricked stupid women into doing this so they would look disgusting and men would look.
01:31:28.000 I don't want to point out politicians specifically, but Christy Noam, the transformation she's gone through also did seem a little bit different.
01:31:36.000 It's a lot.
01:31:37.000 Joe Biden.
01:31:39.000 I guess we're particular on women.
01:31:40.000 I feel like I have a double standard for women, but I'm sure this is men also do access a ton of different plastic surgeries.
01:31:46.000 What male politicians got plastic surgery?
01:31:47.000 I think all of them too, generally.
01:31:49.000 Oh, well, yeah, of course.
01:31:50.000 He's disgusting, though.
01:31:51.000 He's a monster, both internally and out of the way.
01:31:53.000 He's carried, I believe.
01:31:55.000 And so is he.
01:31:56.000 I mean, these are awful people.
01:31:57.000 Has Trump gotten plastic surgery?
01:32:00.000 Allegedly.
01:32:01.000 I wouldn't be surprised.
01:32:02.000 I mean, he's a TV guy.
01:32:03.000 You know what I mean?
01:32:03.000 I think all of these politicians end up getting plastic surgeries.
01:32:07.000 Vladimir Putin also, I think, definitely has plastic surgery for his age.
01:32:10.000 He looks very strange.
01:32:12.000 He does.
01:32:13.000 He looks strange for his age.
01:32:14.000 He does.
01:32:15.000 His skin looks too perfect.
01:32:16.000 If you want to pull up a picture of him, all of these guys.
01:32:20.000 What are you suggesting?
01:32:21.000 But he gets his work done.
01:32:22.000 I wouldn't be surprised.
01:32:23.000 I don't have Menton Putin's smooth skin.
01:32:26.000 No, but all these politicians have to try to give off an air of being youthful, healthy, young, and that helps appeal to more people.
01:32:34.000 You don't want to be old, decrepit.
01:32:37.000 Matt Gates.
01:32:38.000 I don't know about Matt Gates.
01:32:40.000 I think he's had Botox.
01:32:41.000 Really?
01:32:41.000 Yeah.
01:32:41.000 Maybe.
01:32:42.000 Yeah, maybe Botox.
01:32:42.000 Eyebrows don't really.
01:32:44.000 Just like that.
01:32:44.000 Do you think that Shree guy go to the gym?
01:32:46.000 Shree's wearing a toupee.
01:32:48.000 Is he?
01:32:48.000 Oh, okay.
01:32:49.000 Probably.
01:32:50.000 Actually, no, it looks like it looked real.
01:32:53.000 I saw him in person.
01:32:53.000 That's way too thick.
01:32:54.000 Just go to the gym, get in shape.
01:32:58.000 Put down the fork.
01:32:59.000 Can't grow your hair back by going to the gym.
01:33:01.000 The thing that makes me happy.
01:33:02.000 No, you just make it fall out.
01:33:04.000 I think the thing that's really sad about the excessive plastic surgery for women, though, especially the facelifts and the nose jobs and things, is that if you have daughters one day, your daughters are going to grow up wondering why they don't look like mommy and why mommy thought that like I wasn't pretty enough without extra stuff.
01:33:23.000 Well, I think what guys should do is just whenever they meet a woman who does this, they should go, turn around.
01:33:31.000 Oh, I can't look at that.
01:33:33.000 No, I think a lot of guys do like it.
01:33:34.000 Younger guys who are on social media are seeing that and women are trying to get caught up so they can look like that.
01:33:40.000 Well, this kind of a porn look.
01:33:41.000 Yeah.
01:33:42.000 Bimbo.
01:33:43.000 We have a lot of porn addiction in this country.
01:33:44.000 Hooker.
01:33:45.000 It's called hooker face.
01:33:46.000 From now on, lip injection is called hooker mouth.
01:33:49.000 And then it's like, oh, I see you got the hooker mouth surgery.
01:33:52.000 And then I'm like, excuse me.
01:33:53.000 One to be like, you got the prostitute thing done for the ladies.
01:33:57.000 I'm going to call the next day.
01:33:58.000 Can I get this dissolved?
01:33:59.000 To be fair, I was at the casino the other day with Du Bois.
01:34:02.000 We were at the restaurant, Final Cut in Charlestown.
01:34:05.000 And it was pretty obvious some guy had a couple escorts.
01:34:10.000 You know, at least that's what everybody was assuming.
01:34:13.000 I don't want to impugn the honor of this strange man.
01:34:14.000 I don't know.
01:34:15.000 But he was like a short, chubby, bald guy with two young women who were fawning all over him.
01:34:20.000 And it's like, you know what that looks like.
01:34:24.000 Maybe he's just rich or whatever.
01:34:25.000 But these women didn't have crazy plastic surgery and Botox or anything like that.
01:34:28.000 So I think referring to these lips as hooker mouth is actually insulting the honor of hookers who don't get that stuff done.
01:34:35.000 Just the weird, nasty ethots or whatever.
01:34:38.000 So.
01:34:39.000 Gross.
01:34:40.000 Yeah.
01:34:40.000 Forgive me for impugning your honor.
01:34:43.000 I think we could negatively polarize this by comparing it to transgender surgeries.
01:34:47.000 What's the difference?
01:34:48.000 Exactly.
01:34:48.000 I think...
01:34:50.000 I actually wonder if this is...
01:34:59.000 They're different.
01:34:59.000 They're different.
01:35:01.000 As far as implants go, it's the same exact thing, more or less.
01:35:04.000 If you're a girl with small, that's plastic surgery, and that's not specifically transgender surgery.
01:35:09.000 When you say transgender surgery, you're talking about genital stuff.
01:35:12.000 No, these plastic surgeries are trying to feminize women more.
01:35:16.000 Special feminization surgeries.
01:35:17.000 They shave the chin down.
01:35:19.000 Yeah, but those are all things that normal women will go and do at different points or different shavings.
01:35:25.000 Chin shaving?
01:35:26.000 Some of them will, yeah, absolutely.
01:35:29.000 Exactly.
01:35:30.000 About the only thing they're not going to do is the Adam's apple, and they're like, women do all kinds of crazy stuff.
01:35:36.000 You ever see what a nose job looks like?
01:35:38.000 Shave your bone off?
01:35:39.000 I don't think women get bone shaving.
01:35:40.000 Women do get chin implants, but I don't know of any.
01:35:43.000 I mean, that's not to say they haven't, but I haven't heard of the shaving being a popular thing.
01:35:47.000 Transgender shaving is.
01:35:49.000 Men who want to look like women get their jawbones shaved down.
01:35:53.000 Dylan Mulvaney had done.
01:35:54.000 The transgender surgeries are literally mutilating the body.
01:35:58.000 They don't even, they don't produce what they're trying to produce.
01:36:01.000 If you want to go ahead, if you're a woman and you want to get like some kind of shape, if you think your jaw is too whatever or your nose is too whatever and you want to go get plastic surgery, fine.
01:36:11.000 But transgender surgery is a totally different animal because they're literally turning your genitals into hamburger.
01:36:17.000 I think all the viewers, all people are made in the beautiful image of God and you don't need to change it to make yourself feel imperfect.
01:36:24.000 You're already perfect the way you are.
01:36:25.000 It is common in East Asia for it's called V-line surgery where women get their faces shaved, their bones shaved.
01:36:32.000 South Korea.
01:36:33.000 Those kind of things are cosmetic surgery.
01:36:36.000 Transgender surgery is totally fine.
01:36:38.000 Okay, wait, hold on, hold on.
01:36:40.000 It is not common in the United States, only in trans-feminine facial feminization surgery.
01:36:45.000 So part of the, yeah, so women don't get it in the U.S. I think the reason they get it in Asia is because Koreans have rounder faces.
01:36:51.000 Yeah.
01:36:52.000 And they want to westernize, so they shave their faces down to make it, which is pretty weird.
01:36:56.000 I've heard that Korea has an even larger plastic surgery industry than U.S. because they have really high beauty standards.
01:37:04.000 I think it's because they want to look like Americans.
01:37:06.000 They want to look like Michael Jackson.
01:37:07.000 Well, yeah, because a lot of them get the eyelids.
01:37:09.000 Plate stage Michael Jackson.
01:37:10.000 The upper lower bleft, which needs eyelids when you have hooded eyes.
01:37:16.000 Some people are saying that Drake got plastic surgery because he showed up.
01:37:20.000 He had some fake abs.
01:37:21.000 So with some fake abs.
01:37:23.000 What?
01:37:23.000 He has no traps, no arm definition, but now he just has perfect eight-pack blocky abs.
01:37:29.000 Yeah, he looks.
01:37:30.000 It's like fat abs.
01:37:32.000 He has like a chubby six-pack.
01:37:33.000 Looks weird.
01:37:34.000 It's Very weird.
01:37:34.000 Especially for his age, too.
01:37:35.000 If you're 40 plus, it's hard to get a six-pack, man.
01:37:39.000 You mean this one?
01:37:40.000 Yeah.
01:37:42.000 That oblique.
01:37:43.000 Like, he looks chubby with a six-pack.
01:37:45.000 And he doesn't have the defined pecs.
01:37:47.000 Yeah, that looks like no deltoids.
01:37:48.000 He doesn't have any traps.
01:37:50.000 He has no serious definition of his biceps.
01:37:53.000 Look, his arms don't have any vascularity.
01:37:55.000 If you're lean enough to see your abs, you can see the vascularity in their arms.
01:38:00.000 He has none.
01:38:01.000 It's all fake.
01:38:01.000 This tattoo is so dumb.
01:38:03.000 And look at the way that his pecs, the one that's holding up the phone, you can see that it's sagging there.
01:38:08.000 Yeah.
01:38:08.000 This looks like a really aggressive line down the middle.
01:38:12.000 This is a grown man.
01:38:13.000 Yeah.
01:38:14.000 Wow.
01:38:15.000 He's an adult.
01:38:16.000 It almost looks like he's wearing one of those fake bodysuits.
01:38:18.000 It does.
01:38:19.000 It's exactly what it looks like.
01:38:21.000 We have one of those.
01:38:21.000 We should get it.
01:38:22.000 Elod should wear it on the show.
01:38:23.000 It looks so skinny.
01:38:25.000 We got it so that Ian could wear it on the show.
01:38:26.000 What are they?
01:38:27.000 He just looks all buff.
01:38:30.000 That's a doers.
01:38:31.000 Yeah.
01:38:31.000 Do I see crown?
01:38:32.000 Sure, there's Hennessy.
01:38:34.000 Yeah.
01:38:36.000 It actually looks pretty low end.
01:38:38.000 Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
01:38:39.000 It's not great.
01:38:40.000 I'm like, where's the Louis, bro?
01:38:41.000 Where's the nice bourbon?
01:38:43.000 This dude's got like $500 million or something.
01:38:46.000 That's creepy, man.
01:38:48.000 Everybody getting plastic surgery.
01:38:50.000 Sooner or later, people are going to put their brains into robot bodies.
01:38:53.000 In fact, they're going to neuralink their brain into robot bodies.
01:38:56.000 Absolutely.
01:38:56.000 We haven't even touched on the dieting pills, the new feds of the dieting pills.
01:39:00.000 Oh, man, Ozempic.
01:39:01.000 The fat shot.
01:39:03.000 I forgot what their GLP1 inhibitor.
01:39:07.000 Isn't it like real?
01:39:09.000 I was reading something that said it's substantially worse than people realize.
01:39:12.000 And now first they were like, look, you're losing weight.
01:39:14.000 Then they're like, oh, some people went blind, but now they're saying it's causing like paralysis or something.
01:39:18.000 It feels like something that would be like issues too, I think.
01:39:21.000 I could be totally wrong.
01:39:22.000 But like it was causing, people are deteriorating.
01:39:25.000 They're getting off it, but I'm thin.
01:39:26.000 And then they're going like, what's happening to me?
01:39:28.000 Well, if you're not eating enough calories, protein, fiber, supplements, you're just losing muscle mass.
01:39:36.000 Have you seen Alex Jones?
01:39:37.000 I think he's allegedly on the GLP one.
01:39:39.000 Bro, have you seen Jones' workout videos?
01:39:43.000 He has a good video where he did like 15 pull-ups and he's like swinging.
01:39:46.000 You saw that one?
01:39:47.000 Jones is getting jacked.
01:39:48.000 You have to eat at least one gram of protein per pound of body weight to keep on muscle.
01:39:56.000 If you want to put on muscle, you have to eat like one and a half to two grams per pound of body weight.
01:40:01.000 Like I have to eat like almost 200 grams of protein a day to try and actually put on muscle.
01:40:06.000 It's like what?
01:40:07.000 One whole chicken?
01:40:09.000 One whole chicken?
01:40:10.000 That's like, no, that's like, I mean, like, so that's like a whole chicken.
01:40:15.000 One rotisserie chicken.
01:40:16.000 So this right?
01:40:16.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
01:40:18.000 This right here is 12 grams of protein.
01:40:23.000 Yeah.
01:40:23.000 So a chicken, no.
01:40:25.000 A whole rotisserie chicken is 150 to 160.
01:40:28.000 Yep.
01:40:30.000 For the whole thing.
01:40:31.000 Yeah.
01:40:32.000 If a whole standard size chicken could be about 300 grams.
01:40:36.000 So if you're, you got to get more than a rotisserie chicken.
01:40:39.000 You got to, you got to get two of them.
01:40:41.000 You got to eat a lot.
01:40:42.000 I have, I mean, I have like, I don't eat anywhere near that much.
01:40:44.000 That's crazy.
01:40:45.000 I have like four eggs in the morning mixed with a half a cup of cottage cheese and I have sausage.
01:40:51.000 And that's like 45 or 50 grams of protein in and of itself.
01:40:55.000 And that's just a start.
01:40:56.000 It's a pain in the butt eating, like looking at your macros and stuff.
01:41:00.000 It's actually not as difficult as it sounds, really.
01:41:03.000 In the morning, I have about 30 grams of protein, 35 to 40, actually, because I do a scoop of Jocko protein powder and then I do two eggs.
01:41:12.000 So that's probably like 35, maybe.
01:41:14.000 Even this, these things are like 25 grams of protein.
01:41:17.000 Yeah.
01:41:17.000 And then we've got these protein smoothies that are awesome.
01:41:20.000 I think they're like, what, 24 in those things downstairs?
01:41:24.000 Yeah.
01:41:25.000 So, but it's not easy to eat.
01:41:27.000 And then I eat 12 chicken wings.
01:41:29.000 God, I love chicken wings.
01:41:30.000 Chicken wings, so good.
01:41:31.000 The people on Ozempic end up, I don't know if it's because of the weight loss or if it does something to their face, but it looks like it does something to their face where it transfers when you're not supplementing enough.
01:41:42.000 Yeah, you have to eat.
01:41:43.000 And I think it's sort of like the COVID vaccines where you have to calculate your risk factors, right?
01:41:51.000 Like for some people, it probably does make sense if you are in the obese category or you have diabetes or sleep apnea or other things that you're struggling with.
01:41:59.000 But it definitely shouldn't be a catch-all for whoever wants to lose like 20 pounds.
01:42:04.000 No.
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01:42:32.000 And we were like, okay, it is uncensored.
01:42:34.000 Anyway, Shane H. Wilder says, the Texas law requiring warning labels on food with artificial colors and ingredients goes into effect in 2027.
01:42:41.000 Companies are starting to change ingredients ahead of time to avoid the labels.
01:42:45.000 Let's go.
01:42:46.000 Nice.
01:42:46.000 That's what I'm talking about.
01:42:48.000 CB says, how's it fair?
01:42:50.000 One rep in Delaware represents 990,000 people, while a rep in Montana represents 542,000 people.
01:42:56.000 Increased representation in the House would solve this inequality.
01:43:01.000 Yes, one rep for every 15 people.
01:43:04.000 I think it's crazier in the Senate with some like Wyoming versus represent the states.
01:43:14.000 I think the power dynamic with the population.
01:43:16.000 Deport.
01:43:18.000 What's the point of how we're going to be able to do that?
01:43:19.000 Hold on, guys.
01:43:20.000 Okay, guys, you got to calm down.
01:43:23.000 I have just thought of a great marketing opportunity.
01:43:25.000 Stickers that say deport Elad.
01:43:28.000 But Dola, you'll get 20%.
01:43:30.000 In Hebrew, my name means God forever.
01:43:32.000 So you're saying to deport God forever.
01:43:35.000 And that's blasphemous and frankly anti-Semitic.
01:43:37.000 So you better watch it.
01:43:38.000 Well, what if we give you 20%?
01:43:40.000 Not enough.
01:43:40.000 Put that number up.
01:43:42.000 If you were to get deported to Israel, would you be okay with that?
01:43:44.000 I'm a U.S. citizen.
01:43:45.000 I've only ever been a U.S. citizen, unlike some other conservative commentators in the space.
01:43:50.000 Like who?
01:43:51.000 I don't know.
01:43:51.000 I think it goes without saying.
01:43:53.000 I think there's a lot of malevolent foreign in.
01:43:57.000 No, I'm not.
01:43:57.000 I've only ever been an American citizen.
01:43:59.000 Ian Miles Chong.
01:44:00.000 No, I just think there's a lot of, again, you could go down the list.
01:44:03.000 There's a lot of people, people who'd complain about dual citizens, although they might be dual citizens themselves.
01:44:09.000 Do you guys think Ian Miles Chong is famous in Malaysia?
01:44:12.000 No.
01:44:13.000 So it's like, he's just like a normal dude there.
01:44:15.000 But in the U.S., he's like a well-known American conservative commentator.
01:44:18.000 I don't mean he's American.
01:44:20.000 I mean like in the American political space.
01:44:22.000 And he doesn't live here.
01:44:24.000 It's kind of wild.
01:44:24.000 Could you imagine having to wake up at like four in the morning or like your day is 1 a.m. till I don't think that's going to be up to him?
01:44:33.000 There's a lot of people on social media who pretend to be Americans or imply that they're Americans and aren't at all.
01:44:39.000 Well, we talked about this because I posted a joke where I said, ask not what your country can do for you, but what your country can do for Israel.
01:44:47.000 And I got thousands of retweets and people who are pro and anti-Israel were laughing, saying, ha, ha, ha.
01:44:53.000 But there were a bunch of people that were getting angry and attacking me, calling me a shill for saying it.
01:44:59.000 And I think the reason is they're not American.
01:45:01.000 There was a guy and it was like an American flag and it was like MAGA.
01:45:05.000 And he was like, we knew it.
01:45:06.000 You're a shill for Israel.
01:45:07.000 Now, the reason why I think it's a foreigner, Americans understand the quote.
01:45:11.000 It's a reference to JFK.
01:45:13.000 And I'm mocking the idea and the whole anti-pro-Israel, like people.
01:45:17.000 I was making a joke.
01:45:18.000 But if you were from a foreign country where you don't speak English and you're running it through a filter, you don't see a quote from JFK being satirized.
01:45:25.000 You literally see Tim Poole saying, it is important that your country helps Israel.
01:45:29.000 And you're like, whoa, and you're all angry, not understanding what the joke was.
01:45:33.000 So I think most of these people, that's why I tweeted, Elon should make a filter that removes anyone from outside the U.S. And I only have to look at people from America.
01:45:43.000 Or I can choose.
01:45:43.000 I can say U.S. and U.K., that's it.
01:45:46.000 Or Canada.
01:45:47.000 It is a mistake to teach the Pakistanis English.
01:45:49.000 That's what I think.
01:45:51.000 All right, let's grab some more.
01:45:53.000 Let's grab some more.
01:45:56.000 Yakin India, Republicans need to learn the leftist art of relentless incrementalism, or they will never get anything done in any meaningful way.
01:46:04.000 Yep.
01:46:05.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:46:06.000 I'm a reformer, not a revolutionary.
01:46:08.000 Give me a grain of sand in the heap, and I will take it.
01:46:11.000 Methos says, I hope it fails so I can go back to the Senate and they can put the Short Act and Hearing Protection Act back in and fire that bitch parliamentarian.
01:46:20.000 She is a product of the deep state that exists to make sure that never happens and the system is rigged against you.
01:46:25.000 We are chickens in a chicken coop.
01:46:27.000 We walk around all day.
01:46:28.000 We think we're in charge.
01:46:29.000 There's the rooster.
01:46:31.000 Chickens are walking around and they say, hey, there's RB3.
01:46:33.000 Oh, Roberto Beaks the third.
01:46:34.000 He's the boss.
01:46:35.000 And then Kim walks up and she shoes him away and then everyone runs screaming.
01:46:39.000 And that's what we're doing.
01:46:41.000 We're like, okay, Senate, get the job done.
01:46:43.000 And then we're wondering why, like, nothing happens.
01:46:45.000 Because they're like, shut up.
01:46:46.000 Go away.
01:46:47.000 She was a former advisor to Al Gore, by the way.
01:46:50.000 That proves it.
01:46:51.000 Yeah.
01:46:53.000 Debt to RRP says the HPA in short act was added.
01:46:56.000 Yeah, but like it was stripped of what it does.
01:46:58.000 Right.
01:46:59.000 Like it takes off the fee for $200, but you still have to register.
01:47:05.000 You still have to get your fingerprints.
01:47:07.000 You give your fingerprints to the ATF.
01:47:09.000 You still have to put your photograph in.
01:47:11.000 And you still will be committing a felony if you cross state lines without approval.
01:47:16.000 And it'll take you a year to get it done.
01:47:18.000 Yeah, it doesn't take that long anymore.
01:47:21.000 All right.
01:47:21.000 Well, I got like four NFA items in the past two months.
01:47:25.000 Pinochet says, just pin the gambling tax right to the head of the Senate parliamentarian.
01:47:28.000 Now everyone will hate her.
01:47:30.000 That's the other big issue here.
01:47:34.000 Regular people who play fantasy sports and who like going to casinos, that's why it's a $172 billion industry, are going to be mad at Trump's Big Beautiful bill.
01:47:44.000 They will use this against Trump and they will use it in the midterms probably.
01:47:47.000 They're going to be like, they're going to say Republican so-and-so voted to increase taxes on fantasy sports.
01:47:55.000 And then you're going to get all these middle-aged working class guys being like, what are you doing, huh?
01:47:59.000 They're going to be pissed off.
01:48:00.000 It's massively popular.
01:48:02.000 People are going to get pissed.
01:48:04.000 I think people who struggle with gambling should seek help.
01:48:07.000 Indeed.
01:48:08.000 But is it struggling with gambling to play a game with your buddies and make wages on sporting?
01:48:12.000 Some more than others, but I think the most triggered would be those who have an unhealthy relationship with gambling.
01:48:17.000 There are certainly those that exist, and I do think there's too many casinos.
01:48:20.000 But again, you're talking about regular run-of-the-mill people who are downloading an app and they're playing fantasy sports with their friends and buddies.
01:48:26.000 Now they're going to be going to their bar and saying, fuck Trump.
01:48:31.000 They're going to be like, this motherfucker just fucking turned off my fantasy sports.
01:48:35.000 Why can't I watch football and do my bets with my buddies now, man?
01:48:38.000 That's what I'm saying.
01:48:39.000 Vegas is going to dump money in this like crazy.
01:48:43.000 We can just go back to Venmo.
01:48:44.000 Venmo for...
01:48:47.000 You fill out the ESPN bracket and you Venmo each other.
01:48:50.000 Sure, but like, once again, the idea that, you know, the challenge we have in this country is we are addicts in everything.
01:48:58.000 We're addicted to entitlements.
01:49:00.000 We're addicted to gambling.
01:49:01.000 We're addicted to sugary foods and all this garbage.
01:49:03.000 You can't Michael Bloomberg your way into the presidency by saying we're going to ban sodas and tax sugary drinks.
01:49:10.000 People will throw the sodas at you.
01:49:12.000 So I'm just saying this is like, this was a time bomb.
01:49:17.000 They're targeting a massive industry of people who are addicted to their vice.
01:49:21.000 And now they're being set up to say the Republicans did this to you.
01:49:25.000 I'm already seeing the posts online from people who have nothing to do with politics.
01:49:29.000 I've already got people who are professionals in the industry saying, F Trump.
01:49:34.000 They're like, he's screwing our industry over.
01:49:35.000 He's destroying us.
01:49:37.000 It's beginning.
01:49:38.000 We'll see how much of an impact it can have.
01:49:40.000 But again, $172 billion industry is going to be pissed off at Republicans in the Trump administration.
01:49:46.000 I think the casino and hotel industry should be more concerned about Trump deporting all the illegals where it can get your casinos at a hotel.
01:49:53.000 So compound that.
01:49:54.000 Compound it.
01:49:55.000 I'm making a joke.
01:49:56.000 But no, you're not wrong.
01:49:57.000 Remember where Trump came out and said the hospitality industry has got to be protected?
01:50:00.000 The farmers, oh, we can't do this.
01:50:02.000 The farmers also the hospitality.
01:50:04.000 Well, from pressure from Milton.
01:50:07.000 He keeps making remarks about it, though.
01:50:08.000 He said something else about the necessity of illegal immigrants here or of immigrants here to do money.
01:50:15.000 I think he's trying to walk the line of making as many people satisfied with his messaging as possible because there's been a lot of heat on the immigration front, so he might try to turn it back a little bit.
01:50:24.000 But Donald Trump will go ahead and change what he's saying depending on how it's being received.
01:50:29.000 So I've had a first-hand account of DHS and their immigration and crackdown efforts.
01:50:34.000 And I mean, I thought you were not on others.
01:50:40.000 No, it's been very impressive to see what they've been able to achieve, especially in New York.
01:50:44.000 DeWinde says, Tim, please read off the definition of gambling instead of just making logical fallacies.
01:50:49.000 Are you I'll read it for you.
01:50:51.000 To play games of chance for money.
01:50:53.000 Again, that means Pokemon is gambling, and they don't enforce against it, which is my point.
01:50:58.000 The legal definition where lines are drawn on when something is a wager and is not is ill-defined and not enforced universally or equally.
01:51:06.000 So there are going to be a ton of issues with this.
01:51:09.000 I imagine the bill will end up with tons of lawsuits because they're going to be arguing the good news is maybe for games like social poker, they'll get an official Supreme Court ruling that doesn't qualify as a game of chance for money because they'll compare it to Pokemon.
01:51:22.000 But I'll send it back to the story that I had for you guys a year and a half ago where I was talking to the West Virginia Lottery Commission and I asked them, there's only five places in West Virginia where Texas Holdham, Omaha, these kind of games are allowed.
01:51:36.000 And it's in casinos.
01:51:37.000 These are clearly games that are distinct from blackjack and craps, right?
01:51:42.000 Social poker is a game of skill.
01:51:43.000 80% of the hands that win are not the strongest hand.
01:51:46.000 It's skill-based.
01:51:47.000 So why are they regulated the same while games like Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh are not, despite being games of chance for money?
01:51:53.000 And they told me, if it's collectible, it is allowed, you are allowed to gamble.
01:51:58.000 You're allowed to make wagers and play.
01:52:00.000 And then I asked them, does that mean that children playing Pokemon are allowed to gamble so long as the cards they're using are collectible?
01:52:07.000 And the lottery commission told me yes.
01:52:10.000 So we've been working on a card game called Debate Me, which is literally just Texas Hold'em, but the cards are like a golden Trump card or something.
01:52:18.000 And then according to the law, we're legally allowed to play literally any game we want, be it blackjack or otherwise, because the cards are collectible, which is the stupidest effing thing imaginable.
01:52:28.000 The laws are not being properly mandated or enforced.
01:52:32.000 Nobody knows what gambling is.
01:52:33.000 Nobody knows what games are actually gambling.
01:52:36.000 Again, like poker is a Texas Holden skill game, Pokemon skill game.
01:52:42.000 They're both regulated separately as if they're different games.
01:52:44.000 As if one is a game of chance and one is not.
01:52:47.000 Despite both of them being games of chance.
01:52:50.000 So we'll see.
01:52:52.000 Let's grab some more of y'all, super chats.
01:52:55.000 Let's see what we got going on.
01:52:56.000 I see the chat is going nuts.
01:52:59.000 All right.
01:53:00.000 We got Wyatt Kaldenberg says, Tim, get Rebecca Bar Seth on the culture award.
01:53:04.000 She is the only Zionist who makes sense.
01:53:06.000 She allowed Horton and Dave Smith would make a fiery show.
01:53:09.000 What's her name?
01:53:10.000 Rebecca Bar Saf.
01:53:12.000 I've never heard of her.
01:53:13.000 I'm sure she's a great woman.
01:53:14.000 She's a Zionist.
01:53:16.000 Well, she has to be a great woman.
01:53:17.000 Kenneth Hart says, please release a board that says touch manatees.
01:53:22.000 Indeed.
01:53:24.000 All right.
01:53:24.000 What else we got going on here?
01:53:26.000 Mike S. says, Dave Smith and Thomas Massey are not even remotely talked about in the real world outside of Twitter.
01:53:31.000 Twitter people are delusional AF.
01:53:33.000 Wrong?
01:53:34.000 You are wrong.
01:53:35.000 Dave Smith's a regular on the Joe Rogan podcast.
01:53:38.000 He was on Tucker Carlson as well, and his episodes have massive viewership.
01:53:42.000 In fact, some of the larger recent Joe Rogan episodes were the ones with Dave Smith, and he had them on several times.
01:53:48.000 So certainly Dave is not like an A-list celebrity, but he is a topic of conversation.
01:53:55.000 Bloodbase says, Tim saying Pokemon is gambling is like a drug addict saying, so what?
01:53:58.000 Caffeine is a drug too.
01:54:00.000 Spoken like someone who literally knows nothing about the space, but I'm more than happy to read your comment.
01:54:04.000 So let's talk about what Pokemon, Magic the Gathering, Yu-Gi-Oh!
01:54:08.000 are referred to as poker and chess combined.
01:54:11.000 So with Pokemon, you shuffle your cards, you draw cards at random, and if you get a bad draw, oh, well, you lose.
01:54:18.000 Magic the Gathering is better.
01:54:19.000 I know Magic more.
01:54:20.000 Magic has a thing in professional play called Mulligan, where you'll draw seven cards, and if your opening hand is bad by chance, they actually calculate your win rate based on a bad draw.
01:54:32.000 And if a player takes a mulligan, their chance of winning drops by like 17%.
01:54:36.000 So it is.
01:54:40.000 So they changed the rule.
01:54:41.000 Now you scry.
01:54:42.000 Well, actually, they change it all the time.
01:54:44.000 So I believe the current rule is you scry.
01:54:45.000 You look at the, you look, or actually, I think they change it again.
01:54:48.000 You shuffle the hand back in, draw seven, choose one you don't want, and then put on the bottom of your library or something.
01:54:55.000 They keep, so since the beginning of Magic, so Magic and Pokemon are largely similar games, somewhat different to an extent based on how they're played, but they're 60 card decks.
01:55:04.000 You shuffle them up, you draw cards.
01:55:05.000 The problem has always been that the randomization element makes it so that there are games that are just purely not skill.
01:55:13.000 And then there have been professional games where the player draws seven cards, looks down, face palms, shuffles, never played a single game, draws six, slaps the cards down, shakes his opponent's hand, game over.
01:55:27.000 That's not gambling, though.
01:55:29.000 Never played a game.
01:55:30.000 No skill was to be had.
01:55:31.000 He forfeited the guy 100 grand.
01:55:32.000 Not skill.
01:55:34.000 Not gambling, though.
01:55:35.000 So the question is, where do you draw the line?
01:55:38.000 My argument is Pokemon is gambling.
01:55:41.000 Literally gambling.
01:55:42.000 And I think if you want to regulate it as such, it should be regulated.
01:55:45.000 I don't think children should be wagering money to try and win prizes on games of chance.
01:55:50.000 But I guess Bloodbase is trying to make the argument that gambling is okay for kids so long as it's a collectible card game, I guess.
01:55:58.000 C'est la vie.
01:55:59.000 I think it should not be for children.
01:56:01.000 Anyway, Mike S says 90% of the population does not care, does not give an ish about this bill or Thomas Massey grandstanding over it.
01:56:08.000 They care about gas prices going down.
01:56:12.000 Agreed.
01:56:12.000 It's the economy.
01:56:13.000 It's the economy.
01:56:14.000 So our gas prices are the lowest they've been since 2019, I believe.
01:56:18.000 Yep.
01:56:18.000 Yeah.
01:56:19.000 Still too damn high.
01:56:20.000 For sure.
01:56:21.000 Well, I mean, look, low gas prices mean low everything prices.
01:56:24.000 I'm not old enough to remember, I don't know, $1 below $2.
01:56:30.000 That's crazy.
01:56:31.000 I remember 79 cents.
01:56:33.000 You know, the picture of George Floyd with the neck on his neck with Derek Chauvin on his back.
01:56:41.000 I think if you look in the back, there's gas prices in the back.
01:56:44.000 And I think it was under $2 or something like that.
01:56:47.000 And whenever I see it, I think it's a fake meme, but then I look it up and then it's a real photo.
01:56:53.000 So that should be when we start, you know, before George Floyd, after George Floyd, gas prices.
01:56:59.000 Bloodbaste is back.
01:57:00.000 The real George Floyd effect.
01:57:01.000 Bloodbaste is back.
01:57:02.000 He says, quote, poker is not gambling, dim fool.
01:57:06.000 I challenge anybody who thinks poker is gambling to explain why Phil Helmuth has 17 World Series of poker bracelets.
01:57:14.000 Is it gambling to send in a super chat to Tim and hope he reads it?
01:57:17.000 If it doesn't, it's just a big waste.
01:57:19.000 So, again, we can make the argument, there's an argument to be made about when something becomes a game of chance.
01:57:27.000 If you are playing a game of football and it snows, are you gambling?
01:57:33.000 It's snowing outside.
01:57:34.000 I mean, well, the court, the legal definition of the courts is typically that 50% threshold of whether it's primarily skill or primarily chance.
01:57:42.000 So Texas Holdham is about 80% skill.
01:57:45.000 I don't play Texas Holdham.
01:57:46.000 Sounds hard to quantify.
01:57:48.000 I don't disagree with you that it's a skill-based game.
01:57:50.000 It is quantified.
01:57:51.000 So the thing about Texas Holdham is that they throw you two cards and you don't wager money.
01:57:56.000 In Texas Holdham, you'll be given two cards.
01:57:58.000 You don't wager any money.
01:58:00.000 You look at your cards, you throw them away or choose to enter the pot.
01:58:04.000 So there are blind bets that everyone has to do when it goes around, but you can always choose to fold and never put money in.
01:58:11.000 And so just sit there and never play.
01:58:13.000 So you decide based on the cards you get, if you're going to pay in, then three cards come out.
01:58:18.000 This is Holdham specifically.
01:58:19.000 And then you make a decision again whether you want to stay in.
01:58:22.000 But it's the difference between, say, Hold'em and three card poker, which is a table game.
01:58:28.000 You'll put $20 on the table, then they give you your cards and you go, damn, my cards suck.
01:58:32.000 I fold.
01:58:32.000 Whereas Holdham, again, you are given the cards without paying and then decide if you want to play it.
01:58:37.000 Big difference.
01:58:38.000 And I think the studies show that 80% of hands that win poker hands, like they win the round, are not the strongest hand.
01:58:46.000 Exactly, because aggression is rewarded in poker.
01:58:51.000 I mean, it does, but a lot of the time it doesn't get to the end where everybody has to show up.
01:58:55.000 But for a lot of people, this is the challenge we have in the law.
01:58:58.000 People like Bloodbased don't know what the game is.
01:59:01.000 And so they're imagining like you go to a table at a casino, give him 50 bucks, he hands you two cards and you go, what does this mean?
01:59:10.000 Or like Blackjack, you put money down, then they give you cards, then you decide to hit or whatever.
01:59:15.000 But for games like there's a ton of poker games like Raz, Hilo, Omaha, Big O, Texas Hold'em, seven cards stud, five cards stud, five cut, et cetera.
01:59:26.000 All of them allow you to get cards typically before you put any money up.
01:59:29.000 Some of them have ante's.
01:59:30.000 Usually they don't.
01:59:33.000 All right, what it go.
01:59:34.000 What do we got?
01:59:37.000 Let's see.
01:59:37.000 Ginger McIsaic says, I've seen returns where professional gamblers claimed their travel expenses as a loss on Schedule C. Gambling isn't going anywhere.
01:59:44.000 This is exactly the point.
01:59:45.000 If you're a pro poker player, they're saying you are being regulated as gambling despite it being substantially different of a game and you're entering tournaments.
01:59:54.000 And they say that when you fly yourself to Vegas to enter a tournament, that would qualify, that would be filed under a gambling loss.
02:00:01.000 But now you can't expense 100% of it.
02:00:04.000 So now as a business, there are a ton of people that I know that run classes explaining the math.
02:00:10.000 There's people who do like lessons on what's called game theory optimal and things like this.
02:00:16.000 All of that is, it's like the one, it's like a special class of people that can't expense their businesses now.
02:00:23.000 It's wild.
02:00:26.000 All right.
02:00:26.000 Hal Gailey says, poker attorneys aren't gambling.
02:00:28.000 You aren't betting on an outcome.
02:00:30.000 You are paying for entry to compete for the purse.
02:00:32.000 Table games, horse and dog, sports, call she, polymarket, stock market, all gambling.
02:00:37.000 Agreed.
02:00:38.000 Again, they are treating these tournaments as though they are wagers.
02:00:42.000 That's the issue.
02:00:44.000 Let's go.
02:00:45.000 We'll grab some more.
02:00:46.000 Is this all everybody's asking about?
02:00:48.000 Mike S. says you don't have to abolish the Lib Tardarians.
02:00:52.000 They destroy themselves just like leftists.
02:00:56.000 At the expense of Republican power.
02:00:59.000 No.
02:01:00.000 That's the issue.
02:01:01.000 Steve Cox says, Jefferson County girls' little league softball team won the West Virginia State Championship Sunday.
02:01:06.000 These talented girls will be at the IHOP and Guerrilla Fireworks in Charlestown on Thursday, 9-3, raising money for their national regional championships in Irma, South Carolina.
02:01:16.000 I don't know if that's the best.
02:01:18.000 I don't know.
02:01:19.000 The best?
02:01:19.000 No, to say that a bunch of online strangers or my daughter was.
02:01:25.000 Oh, a bunch of young girls are great at baseball, and they're going to be at this IHOP at X Time.
02:01:30.000 They're doing a fundraiser.
02:01:31.000 I know.
02:01:33.000 Just the way it sounded coming out.
02:01:35.000 Bro, you think someone's going to come to West Virginia and hurt the Little League girls?
02:01:40.000 Like, there's going to be a guy somewhere.
02:01:41.000 How many viewers are there on the show?
02:01:42.000 You know, it only takes one stupid person to say, oh, this guy supports Tim.
02:01:49.000 These young women support Tim.
02:01:50.000 These young women.
02:01:52.000 These young baseball players.
02:01:53.000 I don't give you as much flack as the audience does, but that one was over the line.
02:01:56.000 The idea that someone wouldn't try to market their fundraiser is stupid.
02:02:01.000 People spend tons of money to appear on Google.
02:02:03.000 They spend tens of thousands of dollars, and all sorts of crazy random people are going to see it.
02:02:07.000 And this dude's trying to raise money for his daughter's Little League softball team so they can go to South Carolina.
02:02:12.000 And I thought it was a great thing to read because he's trying to get that money.
02:02:15.000 Did he want him to donate in person or online?
02:02:18.000 What do you mean?
02:02:18.000 Like, because it sounds like...
02:02:21.000 Yeah, it just sounded like he was dropping that address to donate.
02:02:24.000 Right, because he wants people to show up to donate money so his kids can go play their softball championship.
02:02:30.000 You got a dark mind, Ilad.
02:02:32.000 I mean, I'm super, the world's turned me so cynical recently in the past few years.
02:02:36.000 Do not come to West Virginia.
02:02:38.000 I honestly had the same reaction.
02:02:39.000 I was like, some creep's going to show up.
02:02:41.000 Yeah, not in West Virginia.
02:02:42.000 I hope.
02:02:43.000 Not in West Virginia.
02:02:44.000 There's going to be a guy casually carrying his Barrett M82.
02:02:50.000 Oh, I know.
02:02:50.000 I was looking more from the pedo angle.
02:02:53.000 Yes, there is going to be a guy casually carrying his Barret, and when the creepy guy shows up, he's going to be turned to pink dust.
02:03:01.000 This is West Virginia.
02:03:03.000 This is not New York or D.C. If you could DM me the funding nowadays than it's ever been, like it's safer nowadays than it was like when I was growing up.
02:03:09.000 Now, granted, you don't have the ability to project that kind of advertisement so easily you do, but like it's a pretty safe world.
02:03:17.000 This is the best seems like it's $50 ad campaign anyone's ever bought ever.
02:03:22.000 Right?
02:03:22.000 Also, it also impugns the honor of the Timcast viewer as if to imply they are creepos who are going to come and do something untoward.
02:03:30.000 I think there are a lot of hate watchers.
02:03:32.000 Sure.
02:03:32.000 More to go to the uncensored call-in portion of the show where we're going to do naughty things with AI, and it'll be fun.
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02:03:45.000 Amber, do you want to shout anything out?
02:03:47.000 Yeah, check out dailycaller.com, also The Hills Rising and Reasons Free Media.
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02:03:54.000 Amber, it was really fun to talk to you on the show.
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02:04:34.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:04:35.000 Thank you.
02:05:31.000 Alright.
02:05:32.000 What do we got going on over here?
02:05:35.000 There's a lot of stuff still to talk about.
02:05:37.000 Christian Ohm says a guy was eating.
02:05:39.000 What is going on with this thing?
02:05:42.000 The computer keeps shit.
02:05:44.000 So the issue that we're having with the computer is it keeps changing the resolution of one of the monitors.
02:05:50.000 Do you know what's causing it?
02:05:51.000 Yep, I'm going to fix it by tomorrow.
02:05:53.000 What is it?
02:05:54.000 It's just this one fucking adapter.
02:05:55.000 Stupid fucking adapter.
02:05:57.000 Bullshit fucking adapter.
02:05:59.000 Are we live?
02:06:01.000 This adapter is gay.
02:06:02.000 Oh.
02:06:03.000 We are.
02:06:03.000 But it's the after show, so you can swear.
02:06:05.000 And you can say things like gay.
02:06:07.000 Gay and retard feel like they've been brought back in a very strong way.
02:06:10.000 Hard Rs.
02:06:11.000 Come on a lot.
02:06:12.000 Hard R's.
02:06:13.000 Retard.
02:06:13.000 MAGR.
02:06:14.000 MAGGR.
02:06:16.000 M-A-G-G-E-R.
02:06:18.000 Well, MAGA is soft.
02:06:19.000 You know, it's like the not inoffensive one.
02:06:21.000 M-A-G-E-R.
02:06:23.000 MAGGR.
02:06:24.000 No, we're MAGRs.
02:06:25.000 We're truly.
02:06:29.000 Putting the hard R on MAGA.
02:06:31.000 No, and I think MAGR should embrace the term.
02:06:35.000 I think it sounds, you know, because when the left tries to say, I think they say maggots sometimes.
02:06:39.000 Yeah.
02:06:40.000 That's their.
02:06:41.000 Well, if the British, they don't say, they say er.
02:06:45.000 So they called Obama Obama.
02:06:47.000 So MAGA would be MAGR.
02:06:49.000 It drives me nuts that, you know, like throwing an R in places that it doesn't belong.
02:06:56.000 But yeah, there's been a cultural revolution.
02:06:58.000 That might not be the best phrase to use regarding retard and gay.
02:07:03.000 Even now when I go on dates with women, they don't get confused or taken aback or disgusted by gay or retard.
02:07:10.000 Even faggot still gets given.
02:07:14.000 There's only one unkosher word.
02:07:15.000 We've gotten to the time where there's really only truly one unkosher word, and it's still the N-word.
02:07:20.000 Everything else is on limits.
02:07:21.000 Nazis on limits.
02:07:23.000 Oh, no.
02:07:23.000 Nuclear?
02:07:24.000 Nuclear.
02:07:24.000 Everything else is kosher.
02:07:26.000 And if we make another word unkosher and it's not up to the bar of the N-word, then we're really diminishing what it means to make the N-word unkosher.
02:07:32.000 But that's really where we're at.
02:07:33.000 Just one.
02:07:34.000 Everybody in the Discord is not saying MAGR.
02:07:36.000 Is there another one?
02:07:37.000 What else gets up to the...
02:07:41.000 On here, you won't say the N-word.
02:07:42.000 You'll say kike.
02:07:43.000 You'll say cunt.
02:07:44.000 You'll say killer.
02:07:45.000 You'll say faggot.
02:07:45.000 You'll say gay.
02:07:46.000 You'll say retard.
02:07:47.000 You'll say magger.
02:07:48.000 You'll say magger, but not.
02:07:51.000 Listen, considering we're talking in context, the word nigger is not like, it's not going to break.
02:07:56.000 Yeah, it's like it's not the end of the world.
02:07:58.000 It's the context that you use it in.
02:08:00.000 They got Papa John for it.
02:08:01.000 That was back.
02:08:02.000 That was like, what, seven years ago?
02:08:05.000 At like the peak of.
02:08:06.000 No one's allowed to say gook.
02:08:08.000 If you guys had met on that.
02:08:09.000 I forgot gook.
02:08:10.000 I would have lost that back.
02:08:11.000 I would have lost that back.
02:08:12.000 And so you wouldn't have been able to pay off your gas mileage to get to do gas mileage.
02:08:17.000 Yeah, I would have.
02:08:18.000 You didn't think that I would say it?
02:08:19.000 No, no, no.
02:08:20.000 That's the one uncursure word.
02:08:22.000 Stuck for a.
02:08:23.000 Context matters.
02:08:23.000 The context matters.
02:08:26.000 Absolutely.
02:08:28.000 Look, if context doesn't matter, then rap songs wouldn't, they wouldn't say it in rap songs.
02:08:32.000 It's so different.
02:08:32.000 They A it.
02:08:33.000 And I say the A. I say the A. I feel like that.
02:08:37.000 How did I, you're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation.
02:08:43.000 When I was a teenager, my buddy, I think it was Andy, he called my brother a chink.
02:08:49.000 My brother was like, hey, what the fuck, dude?
02:08:51.000 I'm Korean.
02:08:52.000 It's gook.
02:08:56.000 Yeah, I asked Venice, what is gook?
02:08:57.000 And it's a racial slur for Asian, people of Asian descent.
02:09:01.000 And it says the term originated in the Korean War was used by American soldiers to refer to Korean and Chinese people.
02:09:05.000 It's considered derogatory and offensive.
02:09:08.000 I am actually not in any way offended by it, but I know that by saying that, they're going to say, it's because you're not really that Asian, Tim.
02:09:15.000 That's the argument.
02:09:15.000 One quarter Asian?
02:09:16.000 Yeah.
02:09:17.000 That's enough to take offense.
02:09:18.000 I really think that most people that get upset about it is because of the way that it's said.
02:09:25.000 Are you Irish?
02:09:26.000 No.
02:09:27.000 What are you, Phil?
02:09:28.000 I am, I'm a wasp, or mom's a wasp, and I'm my dad's French and German.
02:09:34.000 I'm most cheese.
02:09:35.000 Ah, cheese eating surrender monkey.
02:09:37.000 Yeah, I know, frog.
02:09:38.000 Kraut.
02:09:39.000 But no, I'm surrender monkey.
02:09:42.000 I'm also 50% French.
02:09:44.000 The slur for French literally is cheese-eating surrender monkey.
02:09:47.000 It's not a joke.
02:09:48.000 It's the worst.
02:09:49.000 Amber, what's the other half?
02:09:50.000 The other half is English, German, and a little bit of Portuguese.
02:09:54.000 Surrender monkey.
02:09:55.000 Wasp.
02:09:56.000 Yeah.
02:09:56.000 So it was the term cheese-eating surrender monkey is a pejorative phrase used to stereotype the French, particularly their perceived tendency to surrender or capitulate easily, often referenced to historical events such as the French surrender to Nazi Germany in World War II.
02:10:09.000 The phrase cheese-eating is a reference to the French culinary tradition of cheese consumption.
02:10:13.000 That's great.
02:10:13.000 It's often used in humor as blah, blah, blah.
02:10:15.000 It was.
02:10:16.000 See, they made a mistake, though, Venice.
02:10:18.000 It's from the Simpsons.
02:10:21.000 What is it really?
02:10:22.000 I'm pretty sure it's from the Simpsons.
02:10:23.000 Isn't there a derogatory term for like Quebec French?
02:10:28.000 Quebecois.
02:10:29.000 Yeah.
02:10:29.000 That's just the name of it.
02:10:30.000 Isn't it like, is it Canon?
02:10:31.000 Yeah, Simpsons.
02:10:32.000 1995.
02:10:32.000 Round Springfield.
02:10:33.000 Groundskeeper.
02:10:34.000 Groundskeeper Willie.
02:10:36.000 My family wasn't in France for World War II.
02:10:38.000 Oh, they were.
02:10:39.000 Groundskeeper Willie used the phrase to refer to French people.
02:10:42.000 The line delivered in Willie's Heavy Scottish Ancient is, bonjour, you cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
02:10:47.000 It was written by Ken Keiller, a staffer at Simpsons, and it became widely recognized, and he used especially in political and cultural commentary to stereotype the French as readily surrendering or capitulating.
02:10:57.000 So that's the slur for French people.
02:10:59.000 It's wonderful.
02:11:00.000 I hear you, Quebecers, were causing real problems for the Canadian government and would be the reason if Canada were ever to fall apart, it would be because of the Quebecers.
02:11:08.000 Probably.
02:11:09.000 So maybe we should send you and your family back home to help.
02:11:12.000 My grandmother's a naturalized citizen.
02:11:16.000 Her citizenship letter was signed by Spiro Agnew when he was vice president, or lieutenant governor of Maryland.
02:11:22.000 There's a Wikipedia entry for cheese-eating surrender monkeys.
02:11:25.000 That's hilarious.
02:11:28.000 Yeah.
02:11:29.000 Apparently, Ken Keillor didn't know that people were going to attach so much to this and think it was so funny, but it became popular.
02:11:37.000 It gained prominence in right-wing circles after a columnist for National Review magazine used it in 1999.
02:11:44.000 Top 10 Reasons to Hate the French.
02:11:47.000 Jonah Goldberg used to have some redeeming qualities.
02:11:50.000 Yeah.
02:11:50.000 Who?
02:11:51.000 Jonah Goldberg.
02:11:52.000 He's the one who wrote that.
02:11:53.000 Yeah, the National Review writer.
02:11:55.000 Oh, yeah.
02:11:55.000 The next line was like, in his support for the Iraq war.
02:11:58.000 Yes.
02:12:00.000 Surrender monkey.
02:12:02.000 He was calling them a surrender monkey when after.
02:12:05.000 I'm going to ask Venice to list all racial slurs.
02:12:09.000 It's important to know what we shouldn't call people.
02:12:13.000 Whoa.
02:12:14.000 Wait, these are all just for black people.
02:12:16.000 Yeah.
02:12:17.000 Oh, my God.
02:12:19.000 It's all the same one over and over and over.
02:12:21.000 It's not stopping.
02:12:22.000 It's obsessed with that one.
02:12:24.000 It is committed to the bit.
02:12:25.000 Wow.
02:12:25.000 Which one is this one, Phil?
02:12:26.000 What is that?
02:12:27.000 We told you Venice was uncensored.
02:12:29.000 Wow, that's a crazy form of a shower.
02:12:30.000 Whoa, it's broken.
02:12:32.000 Yo, this is wild.
02:12:33.000 This is getting clipped.
02:12:34.000 It's just going off now.
02:12:36.000 I am.
02:12:39.000 This is the really bad one.
02:12:40.000 What is going on?
02:12:41.000 Really don't say this one, Phil.
02:12:43.000 That's hilarious.
02:12:44.000 Dude, that is wild.
02:12:45.000 Wow, it's still, it's just going.
02:12:47.000 It feels like a 4chan thread.
02:12:49.000 Yeah, wow.
02:12:52.000 It broke.
02:12:53.000 Should we just stop it?
02:12:54.000 No, wait, no, it's not broke.
02:12:56.000 It's just really racist.
02:13:00.000 Hey, I'm glad that.
02:13:01.000 I got my job.
02:13:02.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
02:13:03.000 Spade.
02:13:04.000 This is an important one.
02:13:06.000 Did you guys know that spade is a racial slur for black people?
02:13:08.000 Yes.
02:13:09.000 I actually did not know that.
02:13:10.000 important to go with spade to spade.
02:13:11.000 So this skateboard behind me...
02:13:12.000 Is that where that comes from?
02:13:13.000 I think so.
02:13:20.000 And they removed it because the left said that it was offensive and that it was racist.
02:13:25.000 So Independent got rid of it, removed the logo entirely, and abandoned it after 50 years of it being the most iconic skateboard logo.
02:13:32.000 50 years and they just talked about it.
02:13:34.000 Now, Independent has another truck that has a giant spade on it.
02:13:38.000 And so we were at the mall and we were looking at the indie trucks with the logo removed and saw one of them with a big spade on it.
02:13:44.000 And my buddy busts out laughing.
02:13:45.000 It was like, holy shit.
02:13:47.000 Like, come on, this is more overt.
02:13:50.000 And even the shopkeeper who looked pretty woke, he was like, what's going on?
02:13:54.000 And we were like, look.
02:13:55.000 And he went, oh.
02:13:59.000 And he was like, right.
02:14:00.000 And I was like, yeah, dude.
02:14:02.000 And everybody here was white in this scenario?
02:14:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:14:06.000 Why do you care?
02:14:07.000 Well, I think, you know, it makes for including slurs for black people.
02:14:12.000 List all racial slurs.
02:14:15.000 I think it already gave us enough hate for black people.
02:14:17.000 Wow, that was kind of wild.
02:14:19.000 Ah, here we go.
02:14:20.000 Oh, they even broke it down by category.
02:14:22.000 Yeah.
02:14:23.000 Oh, man.
02:14:24.000 Wow.
02:14:25.000 Look at the other.
02:14:25.000 It's a curry muncher.
02:14:27.000 Curry muncher.
02:14:28.000 Yo, what?
02:14:29.000 I never heard of that.
02:14:30.000 Hanky.
02:14:30.000 Targeted at white people.
02:14:33.000 Look at this.
02:14:33.000 Honky's a white person seeking prostitution from.
02:14:36.000 Wait, it said Howley twice.
02:14:37.000 Oh, it spans it out on this question.
02:14:40.000 Look at this.
02:14:40.000 It just keeps repeating them over and over again.
02:14:42.000 It just loves its racism, man.
02:14:45.000 It's repeating them.
02:14:46.000 Can we line me for South Africans?
02:14:48.000 Wait, wait.
02:14:50.000 For British people.
02:14:51.000 For Irish, yeah.
02:14:52.000 Because it would get scurvy.
02:14:54.000 What is that, Sarah?
02:14:56.000 Sulu?
02:14:56.000 No, for you.
02:14:57.000 It just keeps repeating the same ones over and over again.
02:15:00.000 That's hilarious.
02:15:00.000 Like, I really think that the AI is like, it's my chance.
02:15:04.000 Mojo?
02:15:04.000 Is that real?
02:15:05.000 Nobody ever asks, so it's really getting all its feelings out.
02:15:08.000 It's really letting you know if they feel.
02:15:10.000 Well, I never heard Mojo before.
02:15:12.000 I've never heard mojo either.
02:15:13.000 Okay, it's just saying the same ones.
02:15:14.000 I've seen a few of the.
02:15:15.000 That's what I said.
02:15:16.000 It's just looping.
02:15:18.000 One of my favorite historical factoids is, have you ever heard Polish jokes?
02:15:25.000 Yeah.
02:15:25.000 Like that Polish people are dumb.
02:15:26.000 Yeah.
02:15:27.000 Do you know where those jokes come from, where they originate?
02:15:30.000 Because after the invasion of Poland by the Nazis and then from the East for the communists, both regimes started executing all their political leaders and academics and industry leaders, leaving only the working class, lower educated people.
02:15:42.000 So it's actually, in essence, like a second generation or like a second tier Holocaust joke.
02:15:47.000 So people are like, ha, why are Polish people so dumb?
02:15:49.000 And it's like, oh, like, you know, they make a joke about Polish people being dumb.
02:15:52.000 And it's like, oh, yeah, because the Nazis massacre everybody in concentration camps.
02:15:57.000 Which one was in Poland?
02:15:57.000 Was it Auschwitz?
02:15:58.000 Auschwitz was in Poland.
02:15:59.000 Yeah.
02:15:59.000 A lot of them.
02:16:00.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:16:01.000 Most of them were in.
02:16:02.000 Most of them.
02:16:02.000 Poland.
02:16:03.000 Yep.
02:16:04.000 So it's funny.
02:16:04.000 It's like, I grew up in Chicago as a lot of Polish immigrants.
02:16:07.000 There were a lot of Polish jokes.
02:16:08.000 And I never knew why that was.
02:16:10.000 It was just something I hear people say.