On this week's show, we discuss the end of the Homeland Security surge in immigration enforcement in Minnesota, the release of ICE agents from the agency, and the disappearance of a young woman who was held for ransom. We are joined by pop culture expert and Popcorn Talk Network's resident expert in pop culture, to break it all down.
00:02:31.000And the narrative right now is not so good for Trump on the immigration issue because either he's being criticized for not doing enough, no mass deportations, or for doing way too much.
00:02:47.000And then, interestingly, you know, we haven't really talked about it a whole lot.
00:02:51.000You can tell I'm kind of losing my voice.
00:02:52.000We haven't talked about it a lot on this show, but the Nancy Guthrie story is massive.
00:02:57.000And there have been some developments in this regard.
00:02:59.000And we are being joined by our resident expert in pop culture who's going to be able to help us break this down with some new information on the ransom note.
00:03:06.000And there's actually interesting points about modern day hostage situations and kidnappings that I think actually are destroying.
00:03:14.000And you know, and it's sad to say, the kidnapping industry is effectively over.
00:03:18.000It's being ruined by AI and cryptocurrencies.
00:03:22.000How are you supposed to kidnap somebody when someone else is going to AI their voice and then pretend to be the kidnapper?
00:03:33.000It is the campaign for America First International Assistance.
00:03:38.000This is CAFAI at AmericaFirstintl.org.
00:03:42.000CFA Campaign for America First International Assistance states that a new era of America First International Assistance is underway and that President Trump has made clear the U.S. will act decisively while ending the practice of providing blank checks.
00:03:55.000According to CAFIA, U.S. assistance should be strategic, accountable, and tied to measurable results that strengthen American security, including stronger borders, tougher enforcement, and real cooperation to stop illegal immigration and keep deadly drugs out of U.S. communities.
00:04:11.000CAFIA believes that America First Assistance should focus on stabilizing fragile regions before crises reach U.S. shores, strengthening key partners and supporting American farmers, manufacturers, and workers.
00:04:25.000From Trump's pollster showing that 80% of President Trump's voters support this approach to international assistance.
00:04:31.000They believe President Trump is sending a message to Beijing stating the use of foreign aid to buy influence and control will no longer go unchallenged and that the United States must lead with strength, purpose, and clear conditions.
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00:05:22.000We're going to make Ian basically hang out with you guys.
00:05:25.000And I actually pitched to John, who's running it, I said, we should put up a Timcast style backdrop for photos and a cardboard cutout of Ian.
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00:05:46.000You've got the collectible shop second floor and the Magic Gathering Yu-Gi-Oh! Pokemon, all that good collectible stuff on the third floor.
00:05:52.000So yes, and we're hoping that we can do a Friday night gaming show, gaming hangout with Ian as well.
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00:06:04.000Share the show with everyone, you know, joining us tonight to talk about this and honestly, a lot about issues pertaining to him and the work that he's done.
00:07:05.000It's tough every single day, but there's actually a lot to talk about with you.
00:07:09.000First of all, the story of, you know, Slapchop, ShamWow, the work you did, it's fascinating.
00:07:15.000But additionally, you're running for Congress.
00:07:17.000And interestingly, like before the show started, we were talking and you were making points that you didn't even know and we didn't even know we completely agreed on.
00:07:25.000And I was like, this is going to be interesting.
00:07:58.000Trump administration says it is ending its immigration surge in Minnesota.
00:08:03.000More than 4,000 undocumented immigrants have been apprehended since the operation began in November, according to DHS.
00:08:10.000Speaking at a news conference, Borders R. Homan said coordination with local law enforcement and success of immigration enforcement have contributed to the end of Operation Metro surge.
00:08:20.000I have proposed, and President Trump has concurred, that this surge operation conclude.
00:08:26.000The announcement comes weeks after federal authorities shot and killed two U.S. citizens, sparking outrage around the nation and the world.
00:08:32.000Homan said a significant drawdown will begin this week and will continue into next week.
00:08:37.000He said it will remain on the ground for a little longer to ensure a successful end of the operation.
00:08:41.000Now, we've been hearing this quite a bit from a lot of Trump supporters that immigration enforcement was a massive issue.
00:08:48.000It was the second issue behind the economy and that Trump has not delivered.
00:09:00.000At this rate, he will never get deportations done.
00:09:04.000Not just before 2028, but before the midterms.
00:09:07.000I want to push back a little bit and say, I know that we can be a little depressed and blackpilled sometimes here on this show, but I don't, I think it's more middle of the road.
00:09:20.000I think Minnesota was bad for the Trump admin, but I think they finally negotiated some kind of net positive they could take from this.
00:09:30.000If Kamala Harris got in, you'd be dealing with 20 million new illegal immigrants.
00:09:34.000So can we at least be happy where we're at and taking a positive step?
00:09:39.000Like, I'm glad to see some of the work is getting done.
00:09:41.000And let's be positively promoting the administration to do a little better.
00:09:45.000Is it possible that they're just, that people have a problem with he didn't go after like the factory farms and the large-scale operations that could have netted larger numbers of deportations at one time?
00:09:55.000And the way it's going about in neighborhoods and homes has been a PR backfire from day one.
00:10:32.000But for some reason, I guess because of the pessimism, because of a bunch of things people perceived as not being good enough, this looks more like a retreat and a failure.
00:10:40.000Yeah, too many people are making the perfect the enemy of the good.
00:10:45.000Look, I've got the hardest line opinion on immigration out of, I think, anyone here.
00:10:50.000I would love to see immigration ended for at least a decade, and every single illegal should go back to where they come from.
00:10:58.000So it doesn't get any more hard line than my perspective.
00:11:02.000But at the same time, I can't look at the reality of the situation, the options that we had, and say that Trump isn't the better option or hasn't been the better option.
00:11:15.000We have people that are opting to leave.
00:11:18.000Just today, I was reading some tweets where people that are in custody, they're deciding to leave because I guess if they're going to try and fight, they stay in custody.
00:11:27.000But if they're just going to say, okay, well, I'm just going to go back to my home country.
00:11:32.000And the more people that you get to leave the country through whatever means is possible, right?
00:11:38.000Whether it be paying them $2,600 and buying their plane ticket, grabbing them off the street and throwing them in jail and putting them on a plane, or whether they decide that they get tired of being in custody.
00:13:45.000If you come back, you will always be illegal.
00:13:48.000If you go and leave of your own volition with the app that they've got, they'll give you money and you can start your paperwork and then you can come back the right way.
00:13:54.000I mean, you have to go back to the end of the line, which is difficult, but whatever.
00:13:57.000You're running for office in Texas, right?
00:13:59.000Texas, 31st district, 31st, north of Austin, just north of Austin.
00:14:04.000We're trying to keep the weird wokeness from metastasizing into our district.
00:14:10.000So that's what I'm going to try to do.
00:14:12.000But that's what I was going to ask about because we know that the southern border of Texas used to be very blue and it started shifting red and the immigration crisis got really bad.
00:14:22.000And I know that Austin is a weird, it's relatively woke, but Texas is shifted red, but it could be a little purple.
00:14:29.000And so I was curious, you know, for the district you're running in and for what you're seeing, how much has illegal immigration been an issue for you?
00:14:36.000I mean, Robert's talking about Minnesota.
00:15:18.000Every time I've been nice, people take advantage of me.
00:15:21.000And that's even going right now when just to let you know, I signed up as Offer Vince Shamois Schlomby with my nickname because everybody knows me is Sham Wow.
00:15:33.000And then they just recently, six, like a couple of weeks ago, pulled my nickname unbeknownst to me after I got all these advertisements and took my Shamois name out.
00:15:43.000So no one now, when the voters go in and try to vote for me, they're not going to see it.
00:15:47.000So, yeah, so I'm really upset about that.
00:17:34.000So me and you, Phil, have talked in the past about gun laws and the fact that it's become an issue that's become, it's a bit of a losing issue for Democrats.
00:17:42.000It doesn't work the way that it used to.
00:17:44.000Is there any world in which we one day see immigration in the same light or will it always be on the table the way it is now?
00:17:50.000Like is one of the is the idea here that if you push hard enough right now, even if you're not getting the deportation numbers that you want, like you can get it into the public consciousness and get Americans to understand the damage in which what illegal immigration does and turns it into an issue similar to gun rights where people are like, I'm not compromising bullish on this.
00:18:08.000I think there is a segment of the right that has that opinion now, where they're like, there's, you know, no compromise, no, no anything.
00:18:17.000And I think that those are the people that are the most upset with Donald Trump, right?
00:18:20.000Donald Trump ran when he first came down the elevator, the escalator in 2015 and announced the very first thing he said was, you know, they're sending rapists, they're sending the drug users, blah, blah, blah.
00:18:36.000But he stood by, you know, he stood on his principles and he's like, no, this is a serious issue.
00:18:40.000And I think that he really did make the case and people have seen it.
00:18:45.000Now, Biden helped by opening up the border.
00:18:48.000Biden has done as much damage to public opinion on immigration as anyone.
00:18:57.000And because people are seeing it so succinctly, it's so right in front of their face.
00:19:03.000But yeah, I do think that it's not going to change the way people think.
00:19:07.000I think that people are upset with Trump because he's decided that he's not going to try to get rid of the workers that are here that are illegal and stuff.
00:19:17.000As for will it be a losing issue for the left, I don't know because the people.
00:19:22.000Is it possible in the future, like with enough time?
00:19:25.000I think, honestly, I don't think the time is the deciding factor.
00:19:29.000So the more people are aware of the negative effects of immigration, the more people will calcify behind no immigration or, you know, I want to have more deportations and stuff.
00:19:43.000Because even now, even after all the stuff that happened in Minneapolis, the squishy Republicans, yeah, they were like, oh, I don't want to see this and stuff.
00:19:51.000But the hardcore, you know, far right or right-wingers like myself, like they were not moved.
00:20:32.000I wanted to see people getting deported.
00:20:34.000Well, they're doing that right now with voting rights, where they're like, these are all the hurdles that somebody will have to jump through if the SAVE Act is passed.
00:20:41.000Like if you were married or if you're divorced and all of these things.
00:20:47.000And with that particular issue, like the popularity of it is like 85% of the country, 93% of Republicans, I think, 71% of Democrats are saying, yeah, you should have to show ID.
00:21:00.000And you're seeing movement on the hill, too.
00:21:02.000Like there's only four senators that are holding out now.
00:21:06.000It's McConnell, the Alaska and Maine senators, I forget their names, they're the same person.
00:21:14.000And I think Tom Till from North Carolina is still holding out.
00:21:23.000You know, so I mean, I could imagine, not that I think that it's going to happen, but I could imagine another Democrat saying, you know, actually, that's probably not a bad idea.
00:21:32.000My constituents have been calling my office and they really do want to see this as well.
00:21:56.000Even then, when you see clips now, they're not nearly as, at least the ones that I see posted aren't the same type of Trump hating clips that I saw five, 10 years ago.
00:22:05.000The reality is conservatives like to bring up CNN as this anti-Trump boogeyman monster because they're traumatized.
00:22:13.000Because 10 years ago, CNN had viewership and was lying incessantly and insulting.
00:22:18.000And I'm not trying to say Trump is perfect, but CNN was literally just the anti-Trump channel.
00:23:11.000CNN is running a multi-million dollar studio with high-profile personalities, and they're getting ratings for their whole show that could not buy a pair of Yeezy sneakers.
00:23:24.000Yeah, with actual ads being bought for there as well.
00:24:07.000175,000 were in the key demo, 25 to 54.
00:24:10.000I'm just going to let you guys in on some, okay?
00:24:13.000About 78, 80% of our viewers are key demo.
00:24:16.000And this show does about 600, 700K per night.
00:24:18.000We're in the political offseason, too.
00:24:20.000When we start getting into the midterms and the cycle and all that stuff, Fox, CNN, MS now, they're going to see a spike in viewership, as will we.
00:24:27.000But I was shocked to see that we're actually doing substantially better than all these networks.
00:24:45.000I think people don't realize how much our culture has fractured into a million pieces.
00:24:51.000Well, I mean, that's a symptom of having the internet in your pocket.
00:24:55.000You know, you can just have whatever your outlet of choice is fed directly to you, and that's where you get your news.
00:25:04.000And that's actually a problem Apple's running into now.
00:25:07.000Apple's going to, it's, Apple might end up with some issues with the FCC because all of the Apple news stuff is all from the left, left-wing or far left.
00:25:18.000And I saw Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, he was tweeting about it.
00:25:25.000It's funny too, because Tim Cook has visited Trump and I was trying to explain to people, it's like, there's a reason why all of these CEOs went to meet him.
00:25:32.000They all want to kiss the ring anyways, even if they don't agree with him.
00:25:35.000Even if they're actually creating content that runs counter to his programming or to what Trump wants them to know or wants them to put out, they're still going to go and try and talk to him.
00:25:43.000And to be fair, like, look, Tim Cook runs the whole show, and he's at the end of the day, the buck's going to stop with him.
00:25:49.000But he might not even be aware that the news division does that.
00:25:53.000Or, you know, he might, he might be like, yeah, okay, these are all fine.
00:25:55.000And it might not even like register with him that there's no right-wing perspectives going on.
00:26:00.000So like I said, now the buck stops with him.
00:26:02.000I'm not making excuses for him, but it does show it's completely within the realm of possibility that he isn't aware and he needs to buckle down on the news outlet.
00:26:12.000It will be interesting to see what happens with CNN given the merger or the purchase of Warner Brothers from Netflix, which is still at the moment going forward, but it's not, obviously, they're not buying the television stations.
00:26:24.000They're buying the streaming service in the studio.
00:26:26.000So they're going to split off Discovery and that's going to be its own thing.
00:26:30.000And we'll have to see what happens there.
00:26:32.000I mean, yeah, I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel for CNN.
00:26:38.000I think that they're likely going to be, you know, this is going to continue because they built a brand on just not just hating Donald Trump, which obviously they do, but they hate conservatives.
00:26:58.000The left has really taken the extremely wealthy and the people that are on some kind of government assistance and made a coalition out of that.
00:27:07.000We hit 19 million on the YouTube channel for CNN.
00:27:11.000And videos do like between 46 and 190,000.
00:27:15.000On the last two videos, one three hours ago, 46,000, one from 13 hours ago, 190,000.
00:27:22.000There's one down there under that, 7,000.
00:31:11.000So this meant that because I was working substantially more, my videos were more likely to get recommended.
00:31:17.000And because they were more likely to get recommended, they were more likely to get clicked on.
00:31:21.000So the algorithm was more likely to promote it over your video.
00:31:24.000So in the long run, many conservatives saw their video views go down.
00:31:28.000And then in 2020, my Tim Cast and Tim Cast News and Timcast IRL combined was the most viewed, I guess you'd call it moderate to right-leaning channel on YouTube, doing about 180 million views per month.
00:31:45.000We are making a crazy amount of money.
00:31:47.000Today, the challenge is every day, there's like 100 new AI channels, schlop dropping nonstop.
00:31:56.000And by that same logic, it means that the 20 or so lottery tickets we're buying are up against 50,000 now produced by these other random people, companies, or even a single guy just ran a bot.
00:32:08.000And so what that means is over a long enough period of time, we are dealing with attrition where you are less likely to see our videos, so you are less likely to click on them, and you are less likely to then be recommended, meaning you are less likely to see the videos, meaning we are entering along with everybody else exponential down like death curves.
00:32:28.000And what I will say for people like David Pacman is that dude, he's got a couple years left.
00:32:34.000Once Trump is out, you know, Brian Tyler Cohen and David Pacman got nothing to talk about.
00:32:38.000You think there's right-wing channels that have that same problem?
00:32:57.000They dedicated themselves to being the anti-Trump channel.
00:33:00.000David Pacman's basically stolen all their viewers, but that's not going to last once Trump's out of office, unless Trump declares himself emperor.
00:33:06.000And to be honest, yeah, okay, just do it already.
00:33:23.000I mean, I do think that when Donald Trump leaves, like, there's going to be a significant falloff.
00:33:30.000Donald Trump just rubs people the wrong way.
00:33:33.000They're going to try to turn whoever is the nominee for the Republicans into the same thing.
00:33:38.000Yeah, I don't think it'll work because people already decided that when the left is calling you Nazi and calling you all these names, that's just their M.O.
00:33:50.000In fact, the fact that they were doing it to Mitt Romney was part of why you got Donald Trump.
00:33:55.000Because they were like, look, the Republicans continued to put forth the most milquetoast, the most appeasing, the most nice guy they could come up with trying to placate all the vitriol that was thrown at them by the left.
00:34:10.000And when you got to Mitt Romney, the ultimate Boy Scout, right?
00:34:13.000Like the guy that was likely the cleanest guy in DC and the nicest, most amicable person they could come up with on the right.
00:34:23.000And they still called him all that stuff.
00:34:24.000So the right was just like, you know what?
00:34:34.000They were like, if this guy will punch back, then fine.
00:34:36.000Because the right has gotten to the point where the left had just thrown so much vitriol and so much BS and consistently just insulted and insulted.
00:34:47.000They were like, well, we don't care because you're going to do this anyway.
00:34:50.000So why not give the guy that at least fight back?
00:34:53.000And so they're going to try it with whoever comes next because that's their M.O. That's all they've got.
00:35:54.000It's going to be if there's a slight majority in one direction, they will dominate the whole state and ice out the voices of any opposition.
00:36:00.000So I'm kind of just like, at this point, we are off the precipice.
00:36:13.000Obvious in the sense that I don't know what form it takes, but there's clearly no elections anymore.
00:36:18.000If all the districts are either going to be blue or red with no chance of representation, you know, Massachusetts being a great example, 40% Republicans, zero representatives, then either we just lay down and let the machine take over or people start fighting.
00:36:34.000Well, the Republicans have to actually start exercising power.
00:36:39.000And it's frustrating to see that they are, you know, again, it's Lucy with the football.
00:36:44.000The Republicans are like, okay, we're actually going to play fair and we're going to stop doing this stuff.
00:37:14.000The fact that they still have the filibuster, knowing full well that the Democrats are going to get in there, they're going to end the filibuster.
00:37:21.000They're going to try to expand the court.
00:37:22.000They're going to do everything they can to ensure that they can undo the things that Donald Trump has done.
00:37:27.000Any legislation passed, they're going to try and undo.
00:37:30.000And every Republican, every conservative, everyone on the right should be fully aware of that fact.
00:37:35.000And they still don't exercise power the way that they need to.
00:37:39.000And their constituents, I mean, they're going to lose seats in the House.
00:37:43.000They're going to lose their constituents.
00:37:45.000The constituents are going to be like, we don't want to vote for you.
00:38:14.000You know, like, what happened to this country?
00:38:16.000We grew up on George Carlin and South Park and The Simpsons and Family Guy, and now everybody's a bunch of whiny babies.
00:38:23.000Well, that's why I'm running for Congress because I see that, okay, algorithms, celebrity media, big tech with the San Francisco staff, they're all infiltrating the children.
00:38:34.000They're not going after the nursing homes.
00:38:38.000So when Trump leaves, like he was saying, they can then have, once they get the institutions, they can use that army to censor everybody, cancel people, and put them in jail, whatever.
00:38:51.000Because that's kind of like the MO of the left.
00:38:53.000Censor, cancel, ban, and torture death.
00:38:57.000So that's why I say to the people who are not standing up to grow some balls again.
00:39:04.000Even hockey players, they made them wear the LGBT flag, and they all wear it.
00:40:47.000It's like the dirty, it's like the swamp.
00:40:51.000They don't want the clean water to come in anymore.
00:40:52.000Are you going like door to door and doing that kind of stuff?
00:40:54.000I'm actually, I am personally going to do with my street team and I'm putting this little mini sham wow with the flyer, putting it by the door.
00:41:37.000What are you going to make a commercial for me?
00:41:39.000Here's my vision: is that you walk up to a swamp and then you just throw a sham wow in it and it soaks all the water up and then all of the neocons and woke are being exposed like little germs.
00:41:54.000Like you said, the AI could probably do it like in an hour.
00:43:38.000It's worth pointing out that the silver lining is going.
00:43:42.000And as much as, you know, people were upset that Donald Trump won or Donald Trump lost, lost in 2022.
00:43:49.000If he didn't, he wouldn't have had such insight when he came back.
00:43:53.000And again, as much as people are unhappy with how much he's got done now, because they were expecting, there's a lot of people I think that were expecting Donald Trump to come in and just be a dictator and say, this is happening, this is happening.
00:44:04.000The president never had the power to do the things that they were hoping for, but they were still hoping for it.
00:44:09.000So even though they're upset, he's still done a whole lot of good things.
00:44:15.000And he's done a lot of things that people really did want, but the big things that they were hoping for, he hasn't been able to do.
00:44:22.000So there's a lot of people that are still like, well, he hasn't done this and hasn't done that.
00:47:54.000I mean, mostly it's because people in the space now, it's been kind of, they've used it to kind of shift the discussion because this is an actor where like they're like, what was his net worth?
00:48:04.000There was like a couple of different estimates.
00:48:06.000How does this guy, you know, how does even a rich celebrity in America still have to have a GoFundMe started for him after he dies to take care of his family?
00:48:14.000And this was a dude with six kids, been married since I believe 2010, believed in God.
00:48:20.000For all intents and purposes, he's kind of one of the examples I would give to conservatives to be like, look, not every actor is like a baby's blood drinking demon like everybody wants to paint them all out to be.
00:48:31.000But still, now they're turning it into a discussion about universal health care because how does this guy die broke because he got cancer in 2023?
00:51:17.000Like, if it's the worst movie ever made, that's still a good thing because it's the top of something by being the bottom of something.
00:51:24.000Right, but the critics knew if they said that, people will go see the Midnight Screen.
00:51:27.000They said, also, not as funny, not a molecule of humor.
00:51:31.000Because we also had like a very raunchy material, like Dick Man Fights Lesbians, the gay virgin, like things you'll never see, a gay virgin.
00:51:41.000The big black guy from the Green Mile was in it.
00:52:52.000So I saw, I got the Thigh Master that was on TV and I put it on in the kiosk and everybody was just buying it like hotcakes until it went to the retail stores and no one bought it.
00:53:01.000So that's how I got into then selling choppers on just choppers.
00:53:14.000And then I just, after the movie, again, after I sold a lot of sham, I said, why don't you just do the next product and make a little more jokes, threw some more jokes in it.
00:53:22.000And then it turned into a song that got like 20 million views.
00:56:47.000So, I mean, I don't know what your followers, but let's say you have a great show and you should get 10 million followers, but instead they only give you 1 million followers, whatever platform you do.
00:56:57.000I mean, I'm sure you have many platforms, but some platforms are corrupt because, look, let's face it, they're all from San Francisco.
00:57:02.000They're not going to like some of your platforms, some of these.
00:57:10.000People need to understand that when the Democrats win the midterms is when woke is going to strike back tenfold.
00:57:16.000Because Silicon Valley is going to be like, okay, we're off the target list.
00:57:21.000Right now, their fear is Trump's in the executive and he's got Congress, even though it's weak.
00:57:25.000The moment you get a Democrat Congress, Silicon Valley is going to be like, ban them all again.
00:57:29.000Wait, they're going to wait for Trump to leave.
00:57:30.000They're prepping these kids through the algorithms, through videos, and they're prepping them through schools, activists, teachers, and, of course, porn, which I don't think should be on X. Triple X should not be on X.
00:59:29.000Or like, aren't there like third-party places that can like help you like broker a deal between you and somebody if you want to get their guys?
01:01:37.000Like Richard Hanani was like, yeah, no institutions told you that being fat was okay.
01:01:44.000They were all telling you that actually you should lose weight, which is obviously not true.
01:01:48.000Richard Hanani is that is what's going on right now, right?
01:01:53.000The far left is pretending that anything that happened between 2020 and 2024 just suddenly didn't happen, even though we all know that it did.
01:03:36.000But the funny thing is, what you find with his show is that there'll be a lot of ugly fat women being like, I'm perfect, but men must be better.
01:03:43.000And that's where the health at every size comes from.
01:03:46.000Unhealthy women who feel justified being exactly as they are.
01:04:03.000Yes, but it's low testosterone based on our culture.
01:04:07.000The foods, the plastics, the lack of exercise and sunlight, improper videos all day.
01:04:12.000Yeah, dudes used to be chopped, you know, just hopped up on testosterone nonstop.
01:04:17.000So they were all just punching each other and rolling around in mud and fighting wars.
01:04:21.000Now guys are locking themselves in their bedrooms and playing video games desperate for human touch.
01:04:26.000So like a disgusting woman says, I'm healthy.
01:04:28.000And he's like, I will do anything for you.
01:04:31.000I mean, but like also for women, it's the type of thing when we talk about superheroes, like the difference between how men view superheroes and women.
01:04:37.000Like men see a jack dude playing Superman.
01:04:40.000They're like, oh, I want to be that dude.
01:04:42.000And women see female superheroes and they're like, she should look more like me.
01:04:46.000I shouldn't have to look more like her.
01:05:14.000I watched one review and I was like, I'm so glad I don't like Star Trek because if I did, I would feel there'd be an affront to me.
01:05:20.000But I know for all my friends who love Star Trek, I've just been watching The Next Generation again because it's the greatest show ever made.
01:08:02.000This is the worst stuff, too, because let's face it, she would absolutely let her fans try and start a fight with law enforcement, and she would be nowhere near that fight if it actually happened.
01:10:30.000The fact that, you know, Nikki Minaj came out and said, no, I'm actually against this stuff was the, you know, the go against the grain of position.
01:10:39.000So as much as as much as, you know, it's not shocking, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's what you should expect.
01:10:47.000I always laugh when the comments are like how brave they can be standing up for what they believe.
01:11:11.000Yeah, they've done songs together, and I kind of feel like this is the what's the right word?
01:11:18.000The I want to say epitome, but kind of the inflection point of civil war.
01:11:24.000Nicki Minaj and Cardi Hoffman, pick sides.
01:11:26.000I mean, that's the actual movie version of this act probably does say something like, when you get the movie made, it's like something absurd is what finally sets everything off.
01:11:33.000But I'm just saying that like Nikki Minaj and Cardi B are fighting to the point where it's very much like the troubles.
01:11:40.000Like I brought this up, if you go to Northern Ireland, one side of the wall is pro-Palestine, one side's pro-Israel.
01:11:45.000And you're like, what the does that have to do with Ireland?
01:12:54.000Yeah, so it might be because of the, it might have got the start in the COVID stuff when she got a bunch of crap for saying that her cousin's ball.
01:13:53.000If it's not America, I'm not interested in hearing about it.
01:13:56.000You know, the other one that's going on in Hollywood right now is like the pre-sale tickets are really high for Scream 7 and there was to be a boycott for Scream 7 because Melissa Barrera got fired from the movie because of her support for Palestine and the studio fired her.
01:14:09.000So you really can't escape politics in Hollywood no matter what you're doing.
01:14:21.000Trinidad was actually named by Columbus in 1498 because he named it La Isla de la Trinidad, the island of the Trinity, in honor of the Holy Trinity.
01:14:31.000Do you feel like slowed news days are more common than they were before?
01:14:34.000Is it like that some days they're so big and there's so much to talk about that it bleeds over next day?
01:14:40.000I kind of feel like people's brains have turned to jello.
01:15:02.000Predicted this, and I will predict it further.
01:15:05.000So, I warned all of you that the big tech companies were intentionally shifting away from long-form content because long-form content was resulting in informed populations who were voting against their wishes.
01:15:18.000And how you destroy that is you make the machine not capable of long form.
01:15:22.000So, what happens now is the short attention span content cycle.
01:15:27.000If I pull up my phone and I go to Instagram, every single video I get is completely different from the one before or after it.
01:15:33.000And so, what does my psyche then look like?
01:17:13.000And they said, it's because I can trust myself with power, but I can't trust you.
01:17:16.000And I'm like, now you understand the mentality of literally every human ever.
01:17:21.000The idea that if they're like, the billionaires are bad, you take, I guarantee you, you take any one of these lefties and you make them a billionaire and they will become identical to Elon Musk in two seconds.
01:17:32.000Well, no, actually, I think that Elon Musk is probably a better billionaire than most of these people.
01:18:16.000I think that's the manifestation that's happening with people like your show.
01:18:21.000We make people smarter, as opposed to like, you know, America's funniest videos on crack on TikTok or something.
01:18:26.000So I'm just saying that there's a truth there, I think.
01:18:29.000I think there may be something beneficial in the long run, though, in that it's going to result in, it may result in localization, meaning that if I can't trust national level social media to be meaningful, then people who are looking for meaning and purpose are going to find it closer to home, whether it's good or bad.
01:18:47.000Well, it just depends on whether they're actually looking for that.
01:18:49.000How many of the people that are on social media are doing that because they're looking for meaningful information?
01:18:54.000Certainly the audience here, which is looking to stay engaged in national politics.
01:18:58.000Me and you have had the discussion or we've had the discussion about like how easy it is to just check out, but then the people who say, Well, you might not care about politics, but politics cares about you.
01:19:06.000So, your audience is automatically engaged because they believe it's something that they need to pay attention to.
01:19:12.000Like, when I'm scrolling social media, I'm like, half the time I'm barely paying attention to what I'm doing.
01:19:16.000And even when we're talking about something like X, where it's stuff that you read, I'm not as engaged with that as I am if I'm doing something like when I was in school, I kept more, I retained more of what I learned than what I do when I watch documentaries and stuff now because I'm not paying as close attention and it's not as structured of a situation as it was when I was in a classroom.
01:19:36.000And that's all the ways you get your information now, whether that's YouTube, whether that's getting information on X, if you're reading articles and things like that.
01:19:45.000It's very hard to retain that information unless your goal is to sit, like when you're doing, you're doing it to put together information for a show or news or things like that.
01:19:53.000Look, David Pacman made a YouTube video claiming Trump pooped.
01:19:57.000That's, I'm like, guys, he's got 2 million views on it.
01:20:02.000If you want to compete in a space where everybody's just screaming at the top of their lungs and bashing their faces on the wall, you got to be like David Pacman.
01:22:14.000It's the ultimate low effort watch, right?
01:22:16.000Like there's no brain power at all used to watch that.
01:22:19.000Actually, like one of the accounts that I follow on Instagram is this guy who just every day he reposts this clip from Fast and the Second Fast and the Furious movie where like Paul Walker goes, forget about it, Ko.
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01:28:55.000The reason I brought this up is because this is from an era in AI video where it was fairly weak and generally made nightmarish looking imagery on accident.
01:29:05.000And so I don't want to downplay Ozzy Alter's incredible editing, the way he timed the voices and stuff from the generation, but a lot of the images was the limitation of AI where if you look at a lot of his newer stuff, it looks actually more cinematic and normal.
01:29:21.000And no disrespect, but in this, where it's very creepy, it feels like a nightmare.
01:30:19.000Yeah, I mean, I wonder if it'd be difficult to emulate that kind of creepiness now with AI.
01:30:25.000I mean, because the stop start, the fact that the faces kind of morph and stuff is part of what makes it so creepy.
01:30:32.000I mean, ironically enough, it would take a lot of editing post-production to give it that.
01:30:36.000Actually, give it that same kind of vibe.
01:30:39.000Man, I'm telling you guys, it's, you know, we played that video of the Teenage Media Ninja Turtles WWF from the 90s thing in the 2000s.
01:30:48.000And the point I was making yesterday is that there's going to be some little kid in 15, 20 years who's going to be like, I can't tell the difference.
01:30:55.000Right now, we understand it's not real because we grew up in the 90s.
01:31:58.000I was like, guys, you know, the video that's going to get 10 million views and make you 20 grand is the video of the guy who gets four of a kind and the other guy gets a straight flush.
01:32:08.000When you do these hands where it's like unbelievable hand and it's like top pair versus a set, you know, three of a kind, nobody cares.
01:32:16.000It's like, yes, guy, like I go, I went and played poker once.
01:32:24.000The content that gets a million views and makes the money is always going to be the rarest of hands.
01:32:28.000There's no reason if you're trying to make money as a business to legitimately wait for the hand to occur.
01:32:34.000If you're a production company trying to make entertainment, you're going to fake it.
01:32:38.000Either because you've got a group of friends who are in on it and you rig the deck to make the hand to get the viral video or you AI generate videos.
01:32:46.000This is also, this happens with the YouTube channels that have people playing skills games and like groups and the channel is like a group of people.
01:32:53.000Everybody knows them, their personalities.
01:32:55.000And the people in the comments sections are rooting for specific people to win in these skills games.
01:33:00.000And these are just games that they're playing at home with friends.
01:33:03.000And most of the time, from what it looks like to me, is they are planning ahead as to who is going to win them.
01:33:10.000Like, I don't know if that's necessarily true for sure, but most of the time when you're watching them, you feel like, okay, that guy's going to win because that's who everybody wants to win in these games.
01:34:17.000You have God mode, whatever you call it.
01:34:19.000And so what's going to happen is movies will become boring because you can have any movie you want.
01:34:27.000You are going to squeeze every last drop of dopamine serotonin out of your brain until it's nothing but a withered, twisted husk.
01:34:36.000And then you're going to be zombified and go outside being like, I mean, there will be some people that are going to be like, you know what?
01:34:45.000Well, I mean, probably largely that they will be among the group, you know, the Amish, which are, there's going to be more Amish in New York, I think, in the coming years than there ever has been.
01:34:56.000But there's going to be people that are going to reject being in the whole AI kind of world, you know.
01:35:09.000Like, right now, it's new and people are, you know, jumping in and seeing what they can do.
01:35:13.000But the people that actually like really like making movies, they'll take the time to find the best AIs that will remember the scenes, that will remember the backgrounds and stuff like that.
01:35:25.000And they'll edit together AI scenes and stuff.
01:35:29.000It's not going to be as simple as, okay, make me this AI movie.
01:35:33.000And it comes out, you know, complete and then someone just sits down and watches it.
01:35:38.000I think there's going to be a lot of people that are going to be like, I want to watch, you know, which Tim has talked about, but I want to watch someone else's version because I heard it was really good.
01:35:46.000So there will be still an amount of like cream rising to the top, the people that can prompt AI the best and stuff.
01:36:45.000you're going to see that kind of stuff being a problem.
01:36:48.000You're going to see job applications too.
01:36:50.000Yeah, you're going to see a lot of, you're going to see lawsuits.
01:36:52.000If this kind of stuff happens, you're going to see lawsuits against the AI manufacturer, the creators of the AI and stuff going after Anthropic or ChatGPT or whatever.
01:37:04.000If a company purchases an AI to help them sift through loan applications and it comes out that they're making decisions based on things they're not supposed to be making decisions on, you've got whatever company purchased the AI is going to be in an action position and the creator of the AI is going to be in an actual position.
01:37:23.000So I don't know 100% how it's going to go, but I can't imagine that someone would, if someone were to find this out and they had gotten, they didn't approve their loan, I can't imagine them not saying, hey, this is something that can set precedent, first of all, if it hasn't, you know, already happened.
01:37:41.000And, you know, there's going to be plenty of lawyers that are going to be like, yo, I'll take this case.
01:37:46.000You know, we can we can take them to the bank because everyone knows that banks and AI, AI companies that make AI, they've got tons of cash.
01:37:54.000You know, when I become, if I win the Congress, I want to open source all the algorithms, not only on all these platforms from whatever, but also in these places, because that's kind of the discrimination.
01:39:52.000We're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chats, my friends, and then we're going to play some naughty videos for the uncensored portion of the show.
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01:41:14.000There's a lot of people that were talking about that during the show, you know, that it was actually, he's saying everything's America.
01:41:20.000And I mean, look, if they want to go ahead and pay tribute to the new American empire, fine, but you can't vote because you're going to vote wrong.
01:41:28.000So we need fewer people voting in the United States, never mind other countries voting because these countries in South America that have had leftist governments and that are a mess, they're that way for a reason.
01:41:39.000It's because most of them had voted themselves into those situations.
01:47:03.000You don't do commercials anymore or anything?
01:47:05.000I don't do commercials for it, but you know, because I'm running for Congress, but I'm doing one with a new product called Black Wow, which will be, it'll be black.
01:47:14.000So it'll be like, we might, you know, stronger, beefier.
01:49:12.000The idea that if the Democrats win, they are going to try to change the structure of our government so that way Republicans can't win.
01:49:20.000They want to look at, you know, California is the model.
01:49:24.000California is basically one-party rule.
01:49:26.000They've been able to pass whatever they want.
01:49:28.000And as terrible as it is, that California is in massive debt.
01:49:32.000They're the fifth largest economy in the world.
01:49:35.000They could be the second largest economy in the world if they had business-friendly, business-friendly policies, but they don't.
01:49:42.000And I think that it's in the past couple of weeks, a trillion dollars worth of tax revenue has left because of the talk on millionaire tax or billionaire tax.
01:49:53.000It's terrible policy, and that's what will happen in the United States.
01:49:57.000They're creating, like I said, that army of the youth.
01:50:16.000And that's one of the reasons that motivated me to run, even though, yeah, it's difficult for me to run because a lot of hate, you know.
01:50:22.000And it's unfortunate for kids because, you know, my daughter was when we voted for Trump a year and a half ago, she was like, she had the, she bought the t-shirt on her own, fight, fight, fight one.
01:51:05.000I mean, the libertarians are just, you know, hey, we're against the government.
01:51:09.000And so that's fine if Democrats are in office.
01:51:13.000But when Republicans are in office and they're trying to do things that are going to be good for the country, you know, and they're like, no, we can't let the government do this because we don't want the government to do things.
01:51:22.000Like, that's not a succinct, not a smart policy, you know?
01:51:27.000Freeman says, just wanted to touch on something Tim mentioned earlier.
01:51:31.000The ADD and ADHD induced by short-form videos is real.
01:51:35.000Think back to the 90s, MTV video editing style, quick cuts, no shot lasting longer than three seconds.
01:51:41.000I started noticing this back in the 2000s.
01:51:47.000I mean, any music video from that time period would be a good example of that.
01:51:51.000But off the top of my head, I wouldn't be able to give you a specific one.
01:51:54.000But in general, the short form content that we're looking at now, like, I know, like, I don't know if anybody else pays attention to this stuff.
01:52:00.000It's something that I have to do quite a bit.
01:52:02.000But I try to keep an eye on what my social media usage is.
01:52:06.000And my wife is very good about reminding me that I need to get off my phone as much as I need to as well.
01:52:11.000And the moment that I do, it's like my brain reasserts itself.
01:52:15.000And I can pay a little bit better attention if I'm watching something, if I'm doing work, taking notes and something like that.
01:52:21.000But as soon as you get in that, you know, that mode of scrolling and stuff like that, it puts you in a worse mood.
01:52:32.000You are not as, you know, you are not as good of a, like, you are not as healthy of a person as you could be if you are scrolling all the time.
01:59:24.000I mean, now they've got AI agents and stuff that can actually do stuff if you let them, you let them into your passwords and stuff, and they can book you flights.
01:59:32.000They can get you, you know, literally do things for you.
01:59:35.000Like there's a lot of people that are using them to help make their workflow a lot smoother and stuff.
01:59:40.000Guys, put your AI down and just watch the Tim Pool show.
02:04:03.000Do you like, so do you have a way of preventing that from happening?
02:04:06.000Like to keep your voice in, like to keep your voice intact?
02:04:08.000I think the reality is I've been doing the same schedule I've been doing since I was, you know, in my late 20s and I'm going to be 40 and like my recovery isn't the same anymore.
02:04:18.000So it's one thing to record five hours a day.
02:04:21.000Now that I'm aging, my recovery is at the same levels.
02:04:24.000I was talking, I was, I've actually had some of the best skating of my life recently.
02:05:13.000You would have to be doing it every day if you wanted that recovery to pick back up.
02:05:17.000When you hired me and I was skating every day, that was two years straight, 365 days a year.
02:05:23.000I was in the best physical shape I'd ever been in in 20 plus years of skating and was probably more consistent than I had ever been in my entire life, but wasn't taking the risks that I took when I was younger.
02:05:34.000But my recovery time was much, much higher when I would fall because I was skating every day.
02:11:31.000So my question is, I didn't catch all the show, but I catched the first, I guess, 30 minutes or so.
02:11:37.000My question is regarding the ICE withdrawal and Trump's overall deportation strategy.
02:11:42.000I feel ICE should start focusing or should still focus on targeting violent criminals, but it's clear that the PR battle has been somewhat lost.
02:11:51.000So I'm worried that they just focus on violent criminals, but instead put pressure on employers or finding them and arresting them and also go after services that illegals use so that they self-deport.
02:12:04.000Do you feel that the withdrawal from Minnesota is just for PR to get a PR break and form a new strategy, or are they just going to continue as normal?
02:12:12.000And what do you think the effects will be if they continue with the same strategy?
02:12:15.000I think it's heavy PR for sure, but they are pulling these guys out.
02:12:19.000I think it looked really, really bad for them.
02:12:34.000Yeah, I mean, look, the guys that are getting pulled out, they're not firing them.
02:12:39.000They're going to be reassigned somewhere else.
02:12:41.000So they're going to continue to do deportations.
02:12:44.000They're going to continue to wrap up guys that are wrap up people that are here illegally.
02:12:51.000I would have liked to see them stay in Minneapolis and really clean up the town, particularly because of the fact that it's kind of the epicenter now.
02:12:59.000But I do understand why they're like, okay, we need to let this cool off a little bit.
02:13:04.000And if they spread the guys out throughout the country and, like I said, they're still working and they're still deporting people.
02:13:46.000Does that answer your question, Esmond Deus?
02:13:49.000I mean, just to add some more to it, I'm fully for a, I guess, a changing in strategy just because My wife is a green card holder, and some of the stories I've read about green card holders being detained and they're trying to deport them for relatively minor things like bouncing a check when they were dirt poor 10 years ago.
02:14:23.000And I think that they need to focus up and just put soft pressure.
02:14:30.000Otherwise, the independents are going to be lost, I feel, because a lot of people aren't having the stomach for this.
02:14:35.000And to be frank, if some of the stuff that I'm reading keeps happening, I might not either.
02:14:40.000I think that's kind of the point, though.
02:14:42.000Like, that was the point of that many people entering the country illegally via the caravans several years ago is they knew they would turn it into something that would have to put people into a position to take a very, very hardline stance.
02:14:55.000And people kind of laughed at me when I said, look, look, most people don't have the stomach to be a politician.
02:15:00.000You don't have the stomach to do what they have to do right now.
02:15:03.000And that's because I would agree with you.
02:15:05.000Like now, when these people are your friends and your neighbors, it's a lot harder to take a hardline stance on immigration when you see the face of a person who you've humanized now in a very, very different way than you do somebody when you're just talking about pure statistics.
02:15:20.000So in this case, I think the PR battle is already lost.
02:15:22.000And if you're talking about the other side of the aisle, they lost a lot of the hardline conservatives when they wouldn't go after the factory farms or any of the places where they could do mass deportations on scale, instead focusing on neighborhoods where you're looking at the face of the people that you see as neighbors and friends and not necessarily the people that are being propped up by these businesses that are taking, you know, that are saving millions upon millions of dollars with literally slave labor.
02:15:53.000I mean, I'm still for deporting people that came here illegally.
02:15:56.000I'm just not a fan of deporting people for minor stuff because it just feels like the administration is just trying to boost their numbers up without caring about any actual progress.
02:16:10.000Well, I mean, I do think they've made progress.
02:16:13.000And I don't think they've made enough progress.
02:16:16.000I mean, like I said, I've got a pretty hardline perspective on illegal immigration and stuff.
02:16:22.000But I do think that they've made some progress.
02:16:24.000And I think that the black pilling is overestimating or the black pilling is just kind of focusing on what people wish would happen as opposed to what's a realistic result and realistic policy.
02:16:40.000It also speaks a lot to just how much of a role big business plays in the administration.
02:16:45.000If he's not willing to go after the businesses that are doing this, then that tells you that he cares more at this moment about staying in good, you know, in good contact with these businesses than the citizens because the citizens are the ones that are suffering.
02:16:58.000And that's been a big problem for Republicans for a long time.
02:17:01.000You've got your rotary clubs that are applying pressure to politicians saying, you know, we like this about illegal immigrants or we like this or we don't want to lose the business or what have you.
02:17:12.000And your average person, you know, they don't share the same opinions generally.
02:17:16.000You know, if they're not business owners that actually profit from whether it be illegal immigration or whatever particular policy that generally conservatives don't like, but the business owners are like, well, it helps me.
02:17:27.000You know, you get that friction there.
02:17:32.000When immigration comes in, we should get from every country, you know, Nigeria, Sweden, Italy.
02:17:38.000Otherwise, we get one facet of like a Spanish community only.
02:17:44.000Like in LA, like my daughter's surrounded by only Spanish-speaking people.
02:17:48.000And it's like, you need to assimilate or just like, this is an America where we're like a melting pot.
02:17:55.000And if it's only one country that's coming in, it's not a melting pot anymore.
02:18:00.000Yeah, I mean, we've seen like, I've seen some posts on X that look that say things like like 12% of Nicaragua lives here now, 800,000 people.
02:18:19.000I'm just saying, that's why, but the point is, is like, that's why you just can't have an influx of all Swedish people or all one country because this is America, I think.
02:18:28.000Well, they also have a lot of them have an active disdain for the country that they're moving to.
02:18:33.000It's like when the protests were going on in the summer and they were flying Mexican flags here in America so that they could stay here, which makes no sense.
02:18:42.000And then also that, yeah, then, of course, let's screen them a little bit, see if they like America or like, you know, see if they're going to be beneficial to our country and be productive citizens.
02:19:24.000So there was a day the other, like over Thanksgiving, where I did like a two-hour by myself and had to literally like, it took two or three tries after a couple of days to realize I had to slow down my rate of speech because my natural speech pattern is so fast that like 20 minutes in, it would start to go.
02:19:41.000So if I had to like pull it back, it's actually good because you can actually focus better when you can slow down the rate in which you're speaking.
02:19:48.000But I have to like, I have to cool it sometimes, depending on the day.
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02:21:21.000Wow, you got smart viewers and listeners.
02:21:25.000So yeah, well, first, just financially, I want to help, you know, it doesn't make sense that you save money for Social Security and at the end, you got to pay taxes on it.
02:21:35.000So we're going to get rid of, so I'm saying no tax on Social Security.
02:21:39.000I mean, it's a simple thing, but I don't even know why it doesn't exist now.
02:21:43.000But like I said, the wokebuster motivated me because of the algorithms.
02:21:47.000And I realized not just because of my channel, but also just the way it's affecting kids.
02:21:53.000And they're just pushing, like if you have a trans joke, and obviously I have a trans joke in the Wokebuster, the algorithms are now promoting it to kids because it's making fun of trans, and that's going to ruin their whole vibe.
02:22:04.000So I just don't like the algorithms that's going on.
02:22:07.000I think it's corrupt, and I just want open source on all platforms.
02:25:32.000I just wanted to shout out the Discord where there are so many new, amazing changes, especially with the After Dark show where all the callers will be in there for the After Dark show.
02:25:43.000Also, my podcast called The Drive-In on the Romanation Network.
02:26:21.000I've been thinking about this past for a while now, honestly.
02:26:25.000I've been working with my daughter on teaching guitar and music and other kind of creative endeavors.
02:26:33.000And I know the past few episodes and tonight, too, you've been hitting on AI pretty hard.
02:26:39.000So I want to get your take from the panel as successful and proven creators.
02:26:44.000So my question, do you see AI as the death knell for creative endeavors and specifically the local artist?
02:26:52.000Or is this simply kind of a new baseline for creative expression?
02:26:55.000Kind of like I'm thinking like when the electric guitar was first introduced to Rocky Blues.
02:27:01.000It's over because it's, you know, I remember when in the 90s, I'm a little kid, and people would complain about Synth and Electronica and be like, you know, in the 2000s with Fruity Loops and all the stuff coming out, they're like, it's not real music, play an instrument.
02:27:16.000The issue now is those were tools to make a certain kind of music.
02:27:20.000AI can create full productions in 10 seconds, which means there is going to be a shotgun blast to the face of top-level high-production music.
02:27:30.000And it's one thing to be like, hey, I can use this drum machine to make a beat for my song, and it still takes work to do, but it's faster.
02:27:40.000And then, hey, AI rendered 7,000 studio quality songs.
02:27:47.000It's like the guy who does the guy on Instagram, the emo realtor, who makes emo songs for all of his listings and he does it all with Suno.
02:27:57.000Imagine he had to try and do that and make his own songs every time he wanted to do that, but he doesn't have to now because he can do it with AI.
02:28:04.000I will say that the slowdown to it, though, is like one of the examples I give is like after Brad Arnold passed, I was thinking about it because there's actually, there's an AI rendering of the song Here Without You that I think is, it's absolutely fantastic.