Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - US Gov EXPOSED Funding Liberal News, Trump NUKES Politico Amid Scandal w-Nuance Bro | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Man, today was crazy.

00:00:20.000 So it all started when news broke that Politico, a news outlet, didn't pay their employees.

00:00:26.000 And everyone started wondering what could be going on in the world where Politico, a large news organization that is considered considered to not like Donald Trump.

00:00:35.000 How are they not paying their employees?

00:00:37.000 And so people immediately started looking up government spending on Politico and found eight million dollars.

00:00:42.000 Actually, the number is much higher if you go back further years.

00:00:44.000 This led to some people tweeting that USAID, a government agency at the center of a lot of big breaking news, was funding Politico.

00:00:53.000 It's not really.

00:00:54.000 What was actually uncovered is that the government is spending thousands of dollars per person on insane, nonsensical subscriptions to a ton of different media outlets.

00:01:05.000 Some people are pointing at Thomson Reuters, the AP, the New York Times, Politico.

00:01:09.000 Effectively.

00:01:10.000 I'll put it this way.

00:01:11.000 When you guys get a new subscription.

00:01:14.000 You know, you pay 10 bucks, 20 bucks.

00:01:16.000 The government pays two to fifteen thousand dollars for a subscription.

00:01:20.000 That doesn't seem to make sense, does it?

00:01:23.000 And Politico has accepted a lot of money.

00:01:25.000 Now we're hearing the White House says it's canceling all of these subscriptions, some eight million dollars worth.

00:01:31.000 And the media is recoiling, claiming it's fake news.

00:01:34.000 None of it's actually happening.

00:01:35.000 Calm down.

00:01:36.000 Oof.

00:01:37.000 Yeah, it's happening.

00:01:38.000 And you know what?

00:01:39.000 This is all out in the open.

00:01:40.000 Anybody could have looked this up.

00:01:41.000 It's only because of the actions of Doge and what we're seeing that people actually started digging into how the government is spending money on liberal media outlets.

00:01:50.000 And they're spending tens of millions of dollars.

00:01:53.000 In one instance, I think I found like the Department of Fish and Wildlife Service or whatever it's called was spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on the New York Times.

00:02:02.000 And it's like.

00:02:02.000 For why?

00:02:04.000 For what?

00:02:05.000 To read the New York Times?

00:02:06.000 Well, they argue they have pro-subscription tools and things like this.

00:02:11.000 We'll break all of that down.

00:02:12.000 A lot of crazy news, of course.

00:02:15.000 We also have the shuttering of USAID. All of the staff have been affected to leave.

00:02:21.000 And, yeah, crazy.

00:02:23.000 Donald Trump also signed an executive order banning men from women's sports.

00:02:27.000 And, of course, a lot of people are losing their minds over that one.

00:02:30.000 We had CBS release to the FCC the full, unredacted, raw interview with Kamala Harris.

00:02:37.000 I can't believe people actually watched it, but they did, and they found that there were some alterations, which is very interesting and may impact Donald Trump's lawsuit.

00:02:43.000 So we're going to talk about all of this stuff, my friends, and we're going to break down the scandal here and how the government is funding the liberal press.

00:02:51.000 Before we get started, of course, head over to CassBrew.com and buy coffee.

00:02:54.000 Unfortunately, you can't buy Ian's Graphene Dream.

00:02:56.000 It's sold out.

00:02:57.000 I don't know how the man does it. 0.99

00:02:58.000 He's crazy. 0.88

00:03:00.000 Two weeks till Christmas, Phil's Gingerbread Roast, where the man is dressed like Santa Claus. 0.92

00:03:05.000 Absolutely.

00:03:06.000 We also, of course, have Appalachian Nights, Rise of the Proto Jr. And I'll just shout it again. 0.99

00:03:11.000 We've got the franchising system set up.

00:03:14.000 Over 100 location requests, I think, in like the first week or so.

00:03:18.000 And so we've been fielding a bunch of calls.

00:03:20.000 A lot of people want to open up their own location.

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00:03:24.000 Be a part of the team.

00:03:25.000 Very excited.

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00:03:32.000 We've got one.

00:03:33.000 I think today's Green Room we just filmed is probably like one of the best.

00:03:36.000 It's the least consequential, but it was hilarious.

00:03:39.000 And there were inappropriate jokes.

00:03:41.000 We were all just basically hanging out talking about the Super Bowl and Trump and things like this.

00:03:45.000 And it was a lot of fun.

00:03:46.000 But Mary Morgan had an amazing conversation with Terry Schilling.

00:03:50.000 It's up now.

00:03:51.000 And it's getting rave reviews.

00:03:52.000 Everyone's saying it's like one of the best podcasts we've done.

00:03:54.000 And it's literally just Mary sitting in the green room talking uncensored.

00:03:58.000 As the cameras were rolling with Terry Schilling, it's really interesting stuff.

00:04:02.000 And I was there playing Magic the Gathering.

00:04:04.000 But don't forget to also smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know.

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00:04:09.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Nuance Bro.

00:04:12.000 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:04:14.000 What's your real name?

00:04:15.000 Omid.

00:04:15.000 Ah, okay, well there you go.

00:04:16.000 I just call you Nuance, because that's what I know you as.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, that is what it is.

00:04:21.000 What do you do?

00:04:21.000 Who are you?

00:04:23.000 I shitpost on X mostly about politics and news and all that stuff.

00:04:28.000 Easily explained.

00:04:28.000 You're a guy on X who complains about stuff.

00:04:30.000 There we go.

00:04:31.000 There we go.

00:04:31.000 We also got Elad hanging out.

00:04:32.000 Hey, everybody.

00:04:33.000 What's up?

00:04:33.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:04:35.000 I'm a field correspondent here at TimCast.

00:04:37.000 NuancePro, what's up?

00:04:37.000 It's good to see you.

00:04:38.000 What's up?

00:04:39.000 Ian, how's it going?

00:04:40.000 Fantastic, dude.

00:04:41.000 I'm Ian Crossland.

00:04:42.000 I'm a prophet.

00:04:44.000 An engineer?

00:04:45.000 No, I'm just kidding.

00:04:46.000 But the thing about the future and how we sit around, we kind of predict what's happening, is we're also creating what's happening.

00:04:51.000 The way that people are, you know, if you study, like, neuro-linguistic programming, the way that people are just ready to, like, do what you say is going to happen, it's pretty wild.

00:04:59.000 The power of creation of reality.

00:05:02.000 They call it manifestation in a lot of ways.

00:05:03.000 So let's keep doing it. 0.99

00:05:04.000 Let's manifest some cool shit, man. 0.99

00:05:05.000 Manifest some destiny? 0.99

00:05:07.000 Yeah.

00:05:07.000 Hello, everybody.

00:05:08.000 My name is Greenland.

00:05:09.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains on Anti-Communist and the Counter-Revolutionary.

00:05:13.000 Let's go.

00:05:13.000 And I just want to mention yesterday what happened for many people who aren't familiar.

00:05:18.000 I did address this on my – I did a morning live show over at YouTube.com slash TimCastNews.

00:05:22.000 So we're all sitting here having a good old time, and we were about 20 minutes until the show started.

00:05:29.000 I'm not going to get into too much personal information.

00:05:31.000 All that I will say is – I am a recently married man with a child on the way, and we are about a month out from that child, which means don't be surprised if 10 minutes before the show we have everything set up perfectly with my face smiling in the thumbnail, and then it's Phil instead.

00:05:47.000 Because when the wife comes a-knocking, we're out the door, no questions asked. 0.99

00:05:53.000 I'll keep it real simple.

00:05:55.000 We just had to go for a checkup.

00:05:57.000 Everything was good, but it was a last-minute thing, and anybody who has kids knows exactly what I'm talking about.

00:06:01.000 So it's fun.

00:06:02.000 How about that?

00:06:03.000 But I'm not going to stick around and wait to find out.

00:06:05.000 I ran out the door.

00:06:06.000 I left my phone.

00:06:06.000 I had no idea what was happening, and Phil just jumped up and took over.

00:06:10.000 So I apologize for not being here, but I'm sorry.

00:06:12.000 My family's more important than talking about the news for two hours.

00:06:15.000 I can always come back later.

00:06:16.000 So there you go.

00:06:17.000 There's the explanation.

00:06:18.000 Expect it to happen again.

00:06:20.000 Probably several times in the next month and maybe slightly afterwards.

00:06:24.000 Sorry, but that's the way it is.

00:06:26.000 All right, let's jump into this first story we have from CNN. I love it.

00:06:29.000 White House says it will cancel $8 million in Politico subscriptions after a false right-wing conspiracy theory spreads.

00:06:38.000 Oh, a false one.

00:06:39.000 Oh, no.

00:06:40.000 It all started with this.

00:06:42.000 Max Tanney says staff at Politico did not get paid.

00:06:45.000 And they were basically saying it was a technical glitch resulting in them not getting paid.

00:06:49.000 I think it was.

00:06:50.000 It's happened to us before.

00:06:51.000 We've had days where, like, there was a glitch in the payroll system because everybody uses a lot of the same companies, and it's no big deal, and then within a few hours it's resolved.

00:06:59.000 However, people then started digging in being like, is Elon Musk gutting funding that took money away from Politico?

00:07:05.000 Because there was a question being asked.

00:07:07.000 How is it that Politico, of limited audience and consequence, is able to fund such a massive operation?

00:07:15.000 Honest question.

00:07:16.000 We here at Timcast rely on you guys to become members.

00:07:20.000 And then if we do ad reads, we don't really, but becoming members funds all of this, and it's not easy, and we're limited, and we don't have nearly the size and staff of Politico.

00:07:29.000 So how do they do it, right?

00:07:31.000 Well, so people start digging in.

00:07:33.000 As it turns out, the government be giving them lots and lots of money.

00:07:36.000 Take a look at this from usspending.gov.

00:07:38.000 Let's start with this one.

00:07:39.000 Politico LLC, $862,000.

00:07:43.000 That came from, it was a purchase order.

00:07:46.000 And it's from the Department of the Interior National Park Service from September of 2021 until September of 2025. A four-year purchase totaling $862,000.

00:07:59.000 Then we've got another $622,000.

00:08:02.000 This one coming from the Department of Interior U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from June of 2022 until June of 2026. Another four-year deal.

00:08:13.000 Why are they spending?

00:08:14.000 All of this money, and what is this?

00:08:16.000 Here's one that's particularly egregious.

00:08:19.000 172 subscribers for $388,000.

00:08:24.000 That's $2,300 per person per year for the Department of Energy to have a subscription for one year.

00:08:33.000 Now, of course, the media is trying to cover it up.

00:08:35.000 But it's not just Politico.

00:08:37.000 It's a bunch of other companies.

00:08:38.000 Let me see.

00:08:39.000 We got this from Axios.

00:08:41.000 Doge targets government media subscriptions after MAGA attacks, and they mention the New York Times, AP, Reuters are getting exorbitant amounts of money for products and subscriptions from the government.

00:08:53.000 So my question as we kick off this conversation to the panel, for what purpose?

00:08:56.000 And be honest, maybe nuance broke.

00:08:59.000 He'll tell us exactly why the government wants to spend between $2,000 and $15,000 for a subscription to a news company.

00:09:05.000 Why are they doing that?

00:09:07.000 Well, we were talking before the show.

00:09:09.000 There was something like they were saying that Politico Pro or like these...

00:09:13.000 Politico has this government service where it kind of acts like Bloomberg terminals do for people in the investment banking world or whatever, and it allows them to see things with this proprietary software.

00:09:27.000 So it'd be like paying any other sort of contractor, like the way the government pays Palantir for their proprietary software that tells them logistical stuff.

00:09:36.000 I don't know.

00:09:36.000 I don't know what the explanation is.

00:09:38.000 But let's – hold on.

00:09:39.000 That's really interesting.

00:09:40.000 Politico has – my understanding is from a government tier.

00:09:44.000 They have a specific subscription for the government for like $2,750.

00:09:49.000 And then they have this like Premier Plus Pro thing or whatever that might be I think like $15,000.

00:09:54.000 And so they're – is this an intelligence agency?

00:10:01.000 Are these media companies effectively – Well, so far I haven't really seen in any of the articles like an explanation of exactly what the government's paying them to do with this sort of stuff.

00:10:17.000 So I'm pretty confused as well.

00:10:20.000 But I'm also, you know, what percentage of Politico's actual annual revenue is actually coming from government sources?

00:10:27.000 Do we know what like their annual revenue is?

00:10:30.000 Because we don't millions like.

00:10:33.000 But how about like 10?

00:10:34.000 Isn't that like eight or 10 years or something?

00:10:36.000 It's like nine years.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, eight months over nine years.

00:10:38.000 So they're getting just shy of a million bucks a year from the government, from government subscriptions, which it's still I mean, it's impactful.

00:10:45.000 And in their lifetime, I think someone posted that they like 34 million in their lifetime.

00:10:49.000 So, hey, man, I'd love to get a million bucks a year from exorbitant government subscriptions.

00:10:54.000 How about we launch Timcast Trump Pro, where it's $5,000 per subscription, They would call it money laundering immediately.

00:11:02.000 Oh, of course!

00:11:03.000 Well, take a look at this.

00:11:05.000 Now, I want to stress, this is not USAID funding media outlets, except this one is.

00:11:11.000 From the BBC, our statement on USAID funding.

00:11:15.000 The BBC says...

00:11:17.000 They say, like many international development organizations, BBC media action has been affected by the temporary pause in US government funding, which amounts to about 8% of our income in 2023-24.

00:11:27.000 We're doing everything we can to minimize the impact on our partners.

00:11:30.000 Heavens me.

00:11:31.000 The BBC is literally funded by the US government to a certain degree.

00:11:35.000 All of this stuff is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars.

00:11:41.000 There's no legitimate reason for...

00:11:45.000 USAID to do the vast majority of the things that I've heard about. 0.96

00:11:50.000 Maybe there are other programs that USAID has that are legitimate, that actually do benefit the United States when it comes to foreign policy, but all of the stuff that I've heard being discovered by Doge or whatever, it's all garbage. 0.95

00:12:06.000 It's all slush fund. 0.96

00:12:08.000 A lot of it...

00:12:09.000 A significant portion of it is money being used for one political agenda.

00:12:15.000 That's the American taxpayers' money being used to promote one political agenda that a lot of Americans are in complete opposition to.

00:12:25.000 So that right there alone is enough reason for me to say cut them as deeply as we can.

00:12:34.000 Make as many significant cuts as possible.

00:12:39.000 And people that are screaming and crying against this, they're all from one side.

00:12:44.000 You don't hear, I haven't heard any Republicans or conservatives making significant protests about this, but the left, they're literally out in the streets, out in front of Congress, out in front of, well, I was out in front of Congress the other day, screaming at the top of their lungs, threatening to use lawfare, threatening to shut the Senate down.

00:13:05.000 All because these are the projects that the left likes because they promote the left's ideology.

00:13:11.000 And to keep it, because it's not just left and right, and Mike Benz made this observation.

00:13:16.000 He's been doing a lot of research on USAID. If Bernie Sanders had won in 2016, USAID would be funding anti-Bernie Sanders stuff.

00:13:24.000 They're anti-populist because the populism is a threat to the control of the empire.

00:13:28.000 I disagree because Bernie Sanders has been...

00:13:31.000 But they were anti-Bernie Sanders the whole time.

00:13:33.000 Bernie Sanders at the time was getting attacked relentlessly by the establishment press, and the DNC colluded to shut him out.

00:13:40.000 So, yes.

00:13:41.000 However, Bernie Sanders, he figured out who butters his bread, and, you know, he likes his vacation houses, and he likes being the largest recipient of Big Pharma dollars, and so he got in line.

00:13:52.000 Yeah, I disagree that they would actually have gone after Bernie. 0.70

00:13:56.000 Bernie is one of the biggest cowards in the Senate, and he would have laid down as... 0.93

00:14:02.000 I mean, he did. 0.99

00:14:03.000 He's basically an establishment Democrat now.

00:14:05.000 He changed his position on immigration.

00:14:07.000 He said it's like a good thing that the CIA was going into Brazil to help against the whole Bolsonaro thing.

00:14:14.000 That might be because of his political leanings, though.

00:14:17.000 If you're helping a socialist, a socialist is going to think, well, maybe this is...

00:14:21.000 They decried CIA going into Central and South America for the longest time, and now it's like, oh, it's no problem.

00:14:27.000 But the left doesn't...

00:14:28.000 Exactly.

00:14:29.000 The left's always going to be...

00:14:31.000 Much softer on it if it's for their guy or for people that have their political ideology.

00:14:36.000 As far as the government funding for these different news organizations goes, I think the most forgiving explanation is that these are essentially a subsidy to different news organizations because the business of news is actually extremely difficult and it's extremely difficult to maintain a successful news business and people turn over and get out of the business a lot and it's within the government's interest to have a vibrant media space and then I'm sure they benefit from good coverage.

00:15:01.000 Back and forth from the people kind of lining their pockets.

00:15:03.000 But they could argue that we have an interest in a vibrant media covering what's going on in our country in an effective manner.

00:15:11.000 When do we get the call?

00:15:13.000 I mean, we have a top global podcast.

00:15:15.000 It's a prominent live show.

00:15:16.000 Perhaps they could fund us, but they don't.

00:15:19.000 Would you accept money?

00:15:19.000 I don't even think you would.

00:15:21.000 Of course I would not.

00:15:23.000 Well, it actually depends, and I'll break down the nuance on this one.

00:15:26.000 But the point is, how come it only ever goes in one direction?

00:15:30.000 We're 100% right.

00:15:31.000 How come the law enforcement that's being fair and democratic is only after going Trump supporters and J6ers and it's not going after Antifa? 1.00

00:15:37.000 And when it comes to the funding, it's always just these big liberal media outlets.

00:15:41.000 Let me break it down for you.

00:15:42.000 I find that the argument that it's both sides is an argument.

00:15:45.000 I don't find that compelling at all.

00:15:47.000 Let me break it down.

00:15:48.000 The question of would I accept money from the government?

00:15:50.000 The simple answer is no.

00:15:52.000 But the issue at hand is...

00:15:54.000 Let me give you a scenario where...

00:15:57.000 A company may start on good standing and good founding and then find itself wrapped around the CIA very easily.

00:16:03.000 We're going to start a news organization.

00:16:05.000 It's called EladsNews.com.

00:16:08.000 And Elad launches a subscription service, $10 a month.

00:16:11.000 And he says, hey, guys, you know, I go on the ground, I report, I ask questions, $10 a month, and then you can be a member.

00:16:18.000 And then, boom, overnight, he's got 1,000 members.

00:16:20.000 And he's like, wow, I'm actually making a lot of money now.

00:16:23.000 I could afford to hire another staffer to help me do this.

00:16:26.000 So he has another person, makes more content.

00:16:28.000 Boom, now he's got 3,000 subscribers.

00:16:30.000 Two years goes by, and Alad's got 40,000 paying members at $10 a month, and he's running an operation.

00:16:36.000 He's got an office, a headquarters.

00:16:38.000 He's hired 30, 40 people.

00:16:40.000 He's like, man, this is amazing what we're able to pull off.

00:16:44.000 Five years later...

00:16:46.000 He's got a staff of 130. He's like, you know, we hear a lot of news have been fighting the good fight and we got all these people here.

00:16:52.000 And then all of a sudden, CIA knocks on the door and says, we'd like to have a meeting with you.

00:16:56.000 And then they slide over a piece of paper that shows 50,000 of his subscribers are actually government employees that are buying a premium plus plan.

00:17:04.000 And they say, here's going to happen. 0.98

00:17:07.000 We want you to write that Donald Trump is a fascist. 0.95

00:17:10.000 We want this to be your principal coverage. 0.97

00:17:12.000 And a lot goes, hey, look, we're journalists, man.

00:17:13.000 We don't do that stuff.

00:17:14.000 No problem.

00:17:16.000 We're sorry we asked.

00:17:17.000 We'll just get in line with our boss and cancel our 50,000 subscriptions.

00:17:20.000 Oh, is that a large portion of your revenue?

00:17:23.000 I guess that means you're out of business and everyone's fired.

00:17:25.000 Or, I mean, you can just accept the truth. 0.98

00:17:27.000 Trump's a fascist, right? 0.91

00:17:29.000 And so what happens is these companies, some of them do get calls from the State Department. 0.96

00:17:33.000 Fact.

00:17:34.000 I can tell you this with experience.

00:17:37.000 Definitively primary source.

00:17:39.000 I have worked for news organizations where the bosses got phone calls from the State Department to talk to them about their news coverage.

00:17:45.000 100% fact.

00:17:47.000 Now, it's often they try and play it like, hey, look, look, we're not telling you what to do.

00:17:53.000 Yeah.

00:17:54.000 But when the State Department calls you and says, we're really concerned about this kind of story, you know what that means.

00:18:01.000 And you know what's going to happen if you say no.

00:18:04.000 You know what the greatest award in journalism is?

00:18:07.000 It's not the Pulitzer.

00:18:09.000 Anybody?

00:18:10.000 Staying out of jail?

00:18:11.000 No.

00:18:13.000 You guys don't know the greatest award in journalism?

00:18:16.000 No.

00:18:16.000 It's called CIA assassination.

00:18:19.000 Okay.

00:18:19.000 It's not the Pulitzer Prize.

00:18:21.000 That's the meme, at least, that if you actually are going to break down a big story that's going to expose the government, they won't let you do it.

00:18:28.000 And so I think for a lot of these companies, there's the mockingbird argument that the feds have been deeply involved in spreading propaganda intentionally.

00:18:37.000 I think it's much more...

00:18:40.000 Look, they want plausible deniability.

00:18:43.000 That's why the way it works is they're going to buy premium subscriptions to the tune of a million bucks a year or whatever.

00:18:51.000 That's going to fund a lot of employees.

00:18:54.000 With $860,000, how many people can you hire?

00:18:58.000 You can hire a bunch of low-level staff at $48,000.

00:19:02.000 Maybe you can hire a handful of staff at 100, maybe a couple of high-profile journalists for 200, and they're going to report what you tell them to report, and that money is coming from government subscriptions.

00:19:12.000 But again, what percentage of Politico's revenue is actually government funding?

00:19:17.000 I can't imagine it's that high.

00:19:19.000 No, it looks like based on those numbers, they may be getting a million bucks a year or whatever.

00:19:27.000 7.2 in 2023. 7.2 million?

00:19:30.000 That's a healthy portion, then.

00:19:31.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:19:31.000 That's their total revenue in 2023. Then I got...

00:19:34.000 I'm reading 750 million.

00:19:35.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:19:36.000 Stop.

00:19:36.000 Yeah, that sounds...

00:19:37.000 In 2025. That sounds...

00:19:38.000 Wait, Politico made 750 million dollars?

00:19:40.000 This is just according to the AI answer on Brave when I searched Politico yearly revenue.

00:19:45.000 I don't buy that.

00:19:45.000 Yeah, that's...

00:19:46.000 They're not a...

00:19:47.000 Bro, that's not true.

00:19:48.000 That's 100% not true.

00:19:49.000 Because how can we go from 7.2 to 750?

00:19:51.000 Yeah, 7.2 doesn't sound right.

00:19:52.000 Sounds like it's an error in the AI. Hold on.

00:19:54.000 Are you saying 7.2 million total revenue from all sources for...

00:19:58.000 One year?

00:19:59.000 700, right?

00:20:00.000 Well, okay.

00:20:01.000 This reads, as of January 2025, Politico's annual revenue reached 750 million.

00:20:06.000 I don't know if that's true.

00:20:07.000 However, earlier reports from 2023 indicated an annual revenue of 7.2 million.

00:20:11.000 That doesn't make any sense.

00:20:12.000 That's just AI being retarded. 0.99

00:20:14.000 I think so, which seems to be outdated given the more recent information.

00:20:18.000 So maybe they were hiding revenue.

00:20:20.000 The revenue significantly increased, reflecting the company's growth and expansion.

00:20:24.000 Maybe they just got paid hundreds of millions of dollars of fee.

00:20:28.000 They may have 20,000 paid subscribers as of 2017. It's been eight years.

00:20:34.000 Well, that's just paid subs. 0.97

00:20:36.000 Like, they probably make a lot through advertising.

00:20:38.000 I don't think they do.

00:20:39.000 I think that was actually one of the issues of contention with the story is that they don't actually run a lot of ads if you go to their website.

00:20:44.000 You don't see advertising.

00:20:46.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:20:47.000 I don't know.

00:20:48.000 It's a good point, though.

00:20:49.000 And it is fair how much of the revenue of these companies is actually coming from this.

00:20:53.000 Because I think if we pull up the New York Times, A lot of money from the government, but it's not...

00:21:01.000 I mean, the New York Times has a ton of paying members.

00:21:04.000 Here's the thing, though.

00:21:05.000 I have an honest question about, say, the BBC and other foreign media outlets that report on the U.S. influence U.S. reporting or otherwise, and USAID accounting for 8% of the BBC's annual budget is insane.

00:21:20.000 A British newspaper?

00:21:22.000 Yeah, that's a statement from BBC.co.uk saying 8% of their income.

00:21:27.000 Doesn't the BBC get funded by their own government?

00:21:31.000 They're supposed to be.

00:21:33.000 Everyone that buys a television has a license to have a television in the UK. It's a meme.

00:21:40.000 Do you have a license for that TV? So part of this revenue of Politico, they got bought by Axel Springer for over a billion dollars in 2021. And I think that they're calculating that billion into their revenue over X amount of years.

00:21:52.000 They're owned by someone.

00:21:53.000 Well, that's an error because that still doesn't make sense.

00:21:56.000 But if companies generating $750 million in revenue, they're worth way more than a billion dollars.

00:22:01.000 Yeah, so $200 million in 2021, but this is because of the billion-dollar acquisition.

00:22:06.000 Hey, look, far be it from me.

00:22:06.000 I wonder how they're making $200-something million.

00:22:08.000 It must be their premium subscriptions.

00:22:11.000 And then there's questions about, is there funding that we're not seeing?

00:22:14.000 Because I've got to be honest, guys.

00:22:15.000 I do not see a reality, and that's just me, and maybe I'm crazy, where Politico is able to generate hundreds of millions of dollars per year off subscriptions.

00:22:25.000 Yeah, okay, Axel Springer.

00:22:27.000 So Axel Springer, the company that owns Politico, is owned by Freed Springer and Matthias Doppner, two people.

00:22:36.000 Corporate structure becomes a privately owned and operated news media marketing company.

00:22:40.000 Well, that's why we don't know the annual revenues.

00:22:42.000 A 13.5 billion euro deal was struck to hive off.

00:22:48.000 I think the crux of the issue here is that it's difficult for a media business to survive and thrive as a private business.

00:22:57.000 The most successful...

00:22:59.000 The New York Times is owned by a family and always has been.

00:23:01.000 Our family, the Salzburgers.

00:23:03.000 The Salzburger family.

00:23:05.000 In that way, they don't need to depend on subscriptions, although I'm sure the New York Times enjoys getting them.

00:23:10.000 And the Washington Post doesn't need to worry about ever actually going bankrupt because they could stay in the red, but Jeff Bezos will fund them indefinitely.

00:23:18.000 So the shift in the way media is as a business will affect the coverage.

00:23:23.000 Also something to consider are local news stations and these smaller local news areas where they don't get any business and are completely driven based off of ad revenue and wouldn't be able to exist.

00:23:37.000 Well, they're also not so small and independent.

00:23:41.000 Isn't it Sinclair that owns a lot of these local stations and stuff?

00:23:46.000 But the thing is, because they can't make money is why they will get bought out and be further consolidated into Sinclair.

00:23:52.000 So the whole business behind media is completely in disarray.

00:23:57.000 This whole subscription business model has only been a thing for the past decade.

00:24:01.000 Before that, it was ads.

00:24:04.000 Newspapers, people would pay for newspapers.

00:24:06.000 I want to just say this.

00:24:09.000 So, looking at their viewership numbers, we are bigger than Politico.

00:24:15.000 So, I'll just say that.

00:24:17.000 The question then becomes, if we are bigger than Politico, how are we not doing $200 million a year?

00:24:26.000 Look, man, I've got to launch this Timcast Pro $13,000 a month subscription plan and offer people something I can't imagine how that is considered acceptable.

00:24:42.000 $13,000 a month is worth the charge.

00:24:45.000 And they were buying 246 of them?

00:24:49.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:24:51.000 But let's do this.

00:24:52.000 Let's jump to this next story, which is still related.

00:24:54.000 Take a look at this from The Dispatch.

00:24:56.000 No, Politico did not receive substantial funds from USAID. Various government agencies have purchased subscriptions to its publication since 2016. The funny thing about these fact checks on this story is that it is fair to say that Kyle Becker and Benny Johnson got this one largely wrong by claiming that USAID was providing $8 million.

00:25:16.000 But I love how they then say the claims are false.

00:25:20.000 According to USAspending.gov, an official source for U.S. government expenditure data and the resource used by Becker in his post, Politico received 8.2 million total payments from government departments and agencies between fiscal year 2016 and 2025. Okay.

00:25:33.000 Well, so they are receiving government funds.

00:25:36.000 But it is a fair question that Nonspro brings up in what is their total revenue and will this actually affect their bottom line?

00:25:42.000 That being said, however, quid pro quo, if the government is spending a million bucks a year, a little bit more, On premium subscriptions, is that going to someone's pocket?

00:25:54.000 What's the point of it?

00:25:55.000 I don't see that as making sense.

00:25:57.000 Look, I'm sorry, like, on the ground, independent media, you go to anybody in the space and say, do you think if you offered up $13,000 subscriptions that would make sense for anybody?

00:26:07.000 And if they're going to claim that...

00:26:09.000 We offer up proprietary technology or whatever.

00:26:12.000 The question then becomes, why is a news organization fronting for an intelligence technology operation?

00:26:19.000 I want to know how much money the U.S. government gives Axel Springer, the owner.

00:26:23.000 So basically, they're a German company that owns Politico.

00:26:25.000 Politico is now a German company, just so you know.

00:26:27.000 It's headquartered in Berlin, is where Axel Springer is.

00:26:29.000 And I wonder if they're in bed with the military, industrial, the liberal economic order.

00:26:34.000 You know, it's in Germany, which is basically one of the European capital of the liberal economic order next to Britain.

00:26:40.000 But I'm wondering if they've broken that, Axel Springer.

00:26:43.000 If you search for Axel Springer and you can see how much donations or purchases have been made by government agencies to Axel Springer SE, which is the name of the corporation.

00:26:52.000 It's interesting that they use the substantial funds language here because, yeah, it's $44,000 and then eight...

00:26:59.000 .1 million in that period of time from just government agencies in general.

00:27:04.000 But just for BBC, as you were covering earlier, just straight from USAID, I guess not even from government agencies altogether.

00:27:12.000 8% of all their revenue was just from USAID. So it's interesting.

00:27:17.000 The substantial funds were going to the BBC, but not...

00:27:21.000 Yeah, well, it's the term substantial funds is relative.

00:27:24.000 Well, I mean, if you're talking about...

00:27:25.000 I don't know what their...

00:27:26.000 8% is definitely so.

00:27:27.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing.

00:27:28.000 I don't know what the margins are on that type of operation, but 8% could be all of their profit.

00:27:36.000 Eight million annually feels like a healthy chunk of change.

00:27:39.000 I don't know.

00:27:40.000 Maybe they started advertising.

00:27:41.000 No, no.

00:27:41.000 It's not eight million annually.

00:27:43.000 It's over nine years.

00:27:44.000 It's like one million annually.

00:27:46.000 But again, I mean, I don't know.

00:27:48.000 A million doesn't seem like a lot of money for Politico when it comes to...

00:27:53.000 Yeah, if they're making 200 million in revenue in 2023, then we don't know.

00:27:58.000 That's the estimate.

00:27:58.000 The estimate ranges are around there.

00:28:00.000 And I'm just going to say right off the bat, I must be really bad at this.

00:28:05.000 If their viewership is lower than ours, and they're doing $200 million, and we're knowing that.

00:28:11.000 They're a propaganda arm of Axel Springer.

00:28:13.000 They're just like Washington Post.

00:28:15.000 It was bought by Jeff Bezos as a propaganda arm.

00:28:18.000 That thing's not pulling in money. 1.00

00:28:19.000 It's Bezos subsidizing it.

00:28:21.000 I don't think that it's so much about the company that owns them as their connections to the administration.

00:28:27.000 Because they're putting out the propaganda that the administration wants.

00:28:30.000 You don't hear Politico have...

00:28:33.000 I haven't heard a seriously critical article come out of Politico about Democrats or even establishment Republicans really in a long time.

00:28:42.000 And when they do do something critical on establishment Republicans, it's very kid gloves.

00:28:46.000 So they're – I mean I don't know anything about Axel Springer, but the actual collusion with the government is obvious.

00:28:55.000 And that's really – that's the actual problem, not who owns them.

00:28:58.000 What's that website, Tim, that you just had up where you can search by company?

00:29:01.000 Usaspending.gov.

00:29:03.000 I'm going to search for Axel Springer on that.

00:29:06.000 USA spending.

00:29:07.000 Now that the lid's blown off of USAID. I mean, again, I don't think the problem or I think who owns the company is less impactful than their actual connection to the DNC or to the administration, the actual government.

00:29:24.000 Because it's whoever's running Politico, whoever's actually in charge of that, having the access to people in the Democrat Party and Putting out essentially what is official, you know...

00:29:39.000 Press releases that are written by the government or that are approved by the government.

00:29:43.000 That's the actual problem.

00:29:46.000 I don't know anything about Axel Springer.

00:29:48.000 Maybe they are a bad company.

00:29:50.000 But it doesn't really matter if they're a German company or an American company or what have you.

00:29:55.000 Because the problem is that Politico is looked at as the serious news organization.

00:30:01.000 And the Democrat establishment essentially feeds them all of the news that they're putting out.

00:30:07.000 Quick fact check.

00:30:09.000 The BBC Media Action, which is an NGO, is what's receiving 8% of their income from USAID. It says, as the BBC's international charity, we're completely separate from BBC News, literally in their statement.

00:30:22.000 Wholly reliant on our donors and supporters to carry out our work.

00:30:25.000 And you've got to remember, when it comes to these global corporations, they're great at naming things to obfuscate.

00:30:31.000 Put a name in a name and another thing with the same name with a slightly different thing that means something else or they'll call it something completely unrelated and that's who's really in control is this umbrella corp that's called like Official Strategies LLC. Remember the Panama Papers?

00:30:45.000 What?

00:30:45.000 Panama Papers?

00:30:46.000 Yeah.

00:30:46.000 We found out all those people were hiding money.

00:30:48.000 Man, that came out and within six months was like off the radar.

00:30:51.000 It was like Putin's got his money in Panama.

00:30:53.000 All these like...

00:30:53.000 Global oligarchs.

00:30:55.000 I can hear silence in the room.

00:30:58.000 Just the sound gets sucked out.

00:30:59.000 Do you really want to go down that rabbit hole?

00:31:00.000 Because there's snakes down there.

00:31:02.000 Let's just pause and take a big step back from whatever this story is and respect the point that we don't know the total revenue of these companies.

00:31:09.000 Maybe they're much bigger and better at this than we think.

00:31:10.000 I know the New York Times makes a lot of money.

00:31:12.000 Good for them.

00:31:13.000 The issue at hand is for the taxpayer.

00:31:15.000 Do we accept that you need to spend?

00:31:19.000 $3,000 to $13,000 for a subscription.

00:31:23.000 Why is the government...

00:31:24.000 The issue is, it's not their money, so they don't care.

00:31:28.000 If someone said, Elad, you can buy whatever you want.

00:31:32.000 Don't worry, the money comes from Tim.

00:31:34.000 Elad's going to be like, okay, what is he worried about?

00:31:36.000 It's not his money. 1.00

00:31:37.000 That's because Elad's an asshole. 1.00

00:31:38.000 If he actually worried about getting fired... 1.00

00:31:41.000 But that's the thing.

00:31:42.000 These agencies are like...

00:31:45.000 I'll spend a million dollars on subscriptions.

00:31:47.000 What do I care?

00:31:48.000 It's so disingenuous, man.

00:31:50.000 You can't just pay someone a million dollars to sit around and be an admin.

00:31:55.000 The value has to be, this is in the private sector, the value of their work has to be market average for like...

00:32:04.000 The cost of the value.

00:32:05.000 Like, you can't overpay someone as an employee.

00:32:07.000 It's tax fraud.

00:32:08.000 So for a company to offer a $10,000 subscription for something that should be worth like $4,000 or $1,000 or $80 a month.

00:32:15.000 Well, we don't know what it's worth because no one's telling us what the product is.

00:32:18.000 I want to know what the product is.

00:32:19.000 It's the one hand washes the other, right?

00:32:22.000 So these companies, like Politico, is getting money from the federal government via USAID. And so Politico then writes stories that are complimentary.

00:32:33.000 About the government.

00:32:34.000 They're literally paying Politico through USAID to write good stories about them.

00:32:40.000 And it doesn't matter if they're paying them a substantial amount of their cost of operation or if they're just paying them a million dollars a year and the top four or the top five people that work there are taking 200 grand each.

00:32:59.000 That's what I wonder.

00:33:00.000 If they're making $200 million in revenue, a million dollars isn't enough to blackmail or persuade them to write articles.

00:33:05.000 It absolutely is.

00:33:06.000 It's not that much.

00:33:07.000 They have over 1,000 employees.

00:33:10.000 They have 1,100 employees.

00:33:12.000 Here's the thing that I think we're overlooking, guys.

00:33:14.000 I'm reading into Political Pro, and here it says, Political Pro users are able to quickly get an AI-generated summary of federal bills, rapid access to critical legislature coming out, and different articles.

00:33:27.000 So if you put AI into anything, any part of your business, you will immediately double or quadruple the value of your company.

00:33:35.000 So that's what you need in your company here at Timcast.

00:33:37.000 Timcast does AI. Everything that we're saying was scripted by AI. You could build an AI that's you, that answers people's questions, and then you'd have 50,000 people buy that.

00:33:47.000 It's a marketing.

00:33:48.000 I just don't believe it.

00:33:49.000 I do believe that they make a lot of money off this.

00:33:52.000 They have newsletters, and they sell sponsorships on it.

00:33:57.000 That makes sense.

00:33:58.000 So I don't think their government income is substantial, but I still think the issue at play is the media is freaking out that we're talking about cutting government waste.

00:34:07.000 And having government employees spending millions of dollars on these subscriptions at high costs to various media organizations, that shouldn't be happening.

00:34:16.000 That's it.

00:34:17.000 Yeah, it's not.

00:34:19.000 I think if people get hung up on thinking like this is the bribery scandal, they're going to be wrong.

00:34:24.000 It's going to be a dead end because if you relatively one twentieth of their one two hundredth of their annual revenue is this.

00:34:31.000 But I'm going to say this, guys.

00:34:33.000 There's never going to be a day where you discover that USAID gave $10 million to Insert News Organization.

00:34:39.000 What's going to happen is USAID gave the Defending Democracy super organization in Morocco $10 million.

00:34:48.000 The Defending Democracy organization then said, well, we need access to good, clean information.

00:34:53.000 So they donated $5 million to the Fighting Disinformation charity out of the Cayman Islands, who then...

00:35:00.000 Bought 50 subscriptions at $50,000 each for sponsorship or whatever.

00:35:05.000 You're going to start finding it's the National Endowment for Democracy.

00:35:08.000 That's basically the on-the-ground people that carry out USAID's briberies and, you know...

00:35:15.000 World building things.

00:35:16.000 It's the National Endowment for Democracy.

00:35:18.000 Is that a specific organization?

00:35:19.000 Yeah.

00:35:19.000 And you know that for a fact?

00:35:21.000 This is what Mike Benz says a lot.

00:35:22.000 He's like, he says USAID. So you're saying it's been reported as the case.

00:35:25.000 The National Endowment for Democracy is probably the next one that's going to be the next USAID. Lid blown off, like, oh my god, what are they doing?

00:35:33.000 These are like the boots on the ground, according to Mike Benz.

00:35:36.000 Well, there was an anti-Elon Musk and anti-Doge protest today in Washington, D.C., outside of the Department of Labor.

00:35:43.000 I think there's allegedly supposed to be, it's been reported that there's going to be a meeting tomorrow with people inside the Department of Labor and people at Doge.

00:35:50.000 So they are seeing cuts left and right, and I'm not surprised to see any given day what department that the Doge team or the Trump team might decide to cut up.

00:35:58.000 Let's jump to this story from Fortune.

00:36:00.000 I'm scared.

00:36:02.000 Inside federal workers' heartbreak and fury after Trump administration encourages resignations.

00:36:08.000 They're scared, guys.

00:36:09.000 They're scared.

00:36:10.000 Do you feel bad yet?

00:36:10.000 Should we burn the Constitution?

00:36:11.000 Not one bit.

00:36:12.000 No?

00:36:12.000 Okay.

00:36:13.000 Well, here's a tweet from Shelby Talcott.

00:36:15.000 The number of deferred resignations has risen to over 40,000 ahead of tomorrow's deadline.

00:36:22.000 A source familiar with the situation tells me the number is still expected to grow.

00:36:26.000 For those that don't know the story, Donald Trump said to all of the federal employees, How would you like to get an eight-month paid vacation with full benefits?

00:36:34.000 Just submit a response to this email saying, resign, and then you will not have to come into work, and you will get paid in full with benefits until September 30th.

00:36:45.000 The number is now at 40,000, and there's a bunch of Democrats saying it's a coup, saying it's illegal.

00:36:53.000 Unions are losing their minds.

00:36:54.000 I love this the most.

00:36:55.000 I love it.

00:36:55.000 The unions are like, oh no, we're about to lose all of our tax base.

00:37:00.000 Because these union scumbags are like, we have 5,000 people here who are forced to pay us 30 bucks a month. 0.95

00:37:06.000 And Trump's offering them resignations. 0.98

00:37:09.000 We're done.

00:37:10.000 So they're freaking out, threatening Trump saying, or the administration legally saying, you can't do this, it's illegal.

00:37:16.000 But it's happening.

00:37:18.000 And he also offered the CIA employees buyouts.

00:37:22.000 Yeah, but it's not really Trump.

00:37:24.000 It's Elon.

00:37:25.000 Because the way this happened is an email got sent out en masse to the various employees that this would apply to.

00:37:31.000 And the title of the email was A Fork in the Road, which if people remember, it's the same email that went out to all these ex-employees at the time to give them their severance and said, hey, you can stay with us or you can take this severance.

00:37:44.000 It's a generous severance package and leave if you don't want to go hardcore or whatever.

00:37:49.000 So in this case, they're doing an eight-month severance.

00:37:52.000 I guess there's something in the law where they can do that through executive action any longer.

00:37:56.000 I think Elon wanted to do like two years initially, but that would require an act of Congress, so that's why they're doing this eight-month thing.

00:38:02.000 Interesting.

00:38:02.000 It seems on its face very reasonable.

00:38:05.000 I mean, think about how horrible it would have been if the people had just been fired and left on the street.

00:38:09.000 He's given them eight months.

00:38:10.000 Who's going to say no?

00:38:12.000 Well, a lot of people are saying no, apparently.

00:38:14.000 So 40,000 said yes out of how many so far?

00:38:17.000 Anybody got that number?

00:38:18.000 Two million or something?

00:38:18.000 Yeah, a couple million.

00:38:19.000 But the question is this.

00:38:20.000 How many people...

00:38:21.000 If I said...

00:38:23.000 Would you want to start a business, Nuance Bro?

00:38:27.000 Sure.

00:38:28.000 How about I give you eight months of funding to...

00:38:32.000 Start your business.

00:38:33.000 Oh, that sounds great.

00:38:34.000 Sounds great, doesn't it?

00:38:34.000 And benefits, healthcare.

00:38:35.000 But here's the thing.

00:38:36.000 If you've been working for the federal government for 19 years and you're like, oh, I could get that 20-year pension once I hit that 20-year mark, you're going to want to be like, I want to hit that 20 years because that's actually more money than eight months of severance.

00:38:50.000 I don't know if people have made, if they've been made aware of this, but like taking the offer might be the best option because...

00:38:58.000 Doge may just come and get rid of their jobs after.

00:39:00.000 If they don't take this option, Doge might come after them.

00:39:05.000 That's why people are scared.

00:39:07.000 Yeah, and good.

00:39:07.000 They should be.

00:39:08.000 The idea that this is some kind of horrible development for America, that it's a coup or any of that stuff, it's literally just trying to streamline the government.

00:39:20.000 That's all that they're doing is trying to make cuts, which any functioning business does.

00:39:24.000 This is the most normal thing that...

00:39:27.000 That can possibly happen in the private sector.

00:39:31.000 You look at the people that are working.

00:39:33.000 You look at the job they're doing.

00:39:34.000 If they're not doing a good job, you start making cuts.

00:39:37.000 And this is something that should have happened.

00:39:40.000 I mean, it should have happened multiple times in the past 50 years.

00:39:45.000 There should be an ongoing...

00:39:50.000 It shouldn't be just one time that Doge comes in.

00:39:54.000 There should be, every year, there should be audits that you have to pass, that you have to show where all of the money that you're spending goes.

00:40:04.000 This should be the most normal, mundane thing in the world.

00:40:07.000 And the fact that the left is apoplectic about it and trying to make it seem as if it's an attack on...

00:40:16.000 You know, average people when average people are not going to be significantly affected by these things.

00:40:22.000 In my opinion, it shows that they're the people that are going to lose because these programs are slush funds for the left and for their agenda.

00:40:30.000 The more government that you have, the better the left likes it.

00:40:35.000 Yeah, the Democrats are making a huge mistake by hitching their wagon to this, like, USAID cause, because the only people who are at these protests or care about USAID for the most part in the United States are people who live maybe within, like, a two-mile radius of Washington, D.C. It doesn't make any sense.

00:40:51.000 People like Axelrod, David Axelrod, and even—what's his name? 0.68

00:40:55.000 Who's that Democrat strategist that looks like a naked mole rat?

00:40:57.000 He also says, like, they're making a mistake by, like, putting all their political capital— Democrats are making a huge mistake by standing up for this instead of the things that really matter, like the Medicaid.

00:41:10.000 Especially when you can show that these programs, when you can tie to it like the gender-affirming care in Guatemala or trans people in blah, blah, blah in some foreign country.

00:41:22.000 When you're sending millions of dollars, which granted, a million dollars when it comes to the federal budget is nothing, but to the average American, a million dollars is a lot of money.

00:41:33.000 If they got a million dollars, it would change their life. 0.96

00:41:35.000 So when you can tie a million dollars to this stupid program, a million dollars to this stupid program, and then not only that, it's all stuff that's all like quote-unquote woke and things that normal people are like, I'm not okay with that. 0.99

00:41:51.000 When you can put those things together, you have a recipe for the worst PR imaginable. 1.00

00:41:59.000 And the Democrats are walking right into it.

00:42:01.000 I think the most amazing thing here is how fast Trump is making all of these moves, and it really has the left in disarray.

00:42:07.000 So in a different season, when Trump was reinvigorating ICE and talking about these mass deportations, that would have led to a whole social movement, and Trump wouldn't have been able to do stuff for a month.

00:42:18.000 But here he signs that the left isn't even able to organize around it.

00:42:23.000 One day he's talking about taking over Greenland and the Panama Canal.

00:42:26.000 You could have seen a whole round of protests against that, but since he's moving so quickly...

00:42:30.000 They can't do that.

00:42:31.000 This USAID stuff, so quickly they can't get a response.

00:42:34.000 He said he's withdrawing from UNRWA and withdrawing the UN. The U.S. from the Human Rights Council, all of these moves, talking about taking over Gaza, that it really has all of the left in disarray, the speed that he's able to go through all this stuff and accomplish so much.

00:42:51.000 They're starting to respond slowly.

00:42:52.000 Mark Polkin, Representative Mark Polkin, introduced a bill called, it's the Elon Musk Act.

00:42:57.000 He introduced it this morning.

00:42:59.000 It hasn't been made available to the public, but it prevents special government employees from taking government contracts.

00:43:03.000 We've had, what's this class of government employee called?

00:43:05.000 Special government employee since 1962, and it lets you...

00:43:08.000 Hire someone from the private sector without them having to quit their private sector job.

00:43:12.000 And then you can appoint them in the executive or the legislative branch as a special government employee as an administrator.

00:43:17.000 I think it's just posturing.

00:43:19.000 This bill isn't going anywhere.

00:43:20.000 It's just posturing.

00:43:20.000 It's called the Elon Musk.

00:43:22.000 You might as well just be, you know, that's what he's trying to run on.

00:43:24.000 I got a question for you guys.

00:43:26.000 Which county has the highest median income in the United States?

00:43:30.000 Loudoun.

00:43:31.000 It's the one that's right next to D.C. The one that's right next to D.C. It's Loudoun County.

00:43:35.000 And it's lawyers and lobbyists and other people funded through these crackpot government programs.

00:43:42.000 This place would not exist if they were not taking taxpayer dollars and dispersing them in this way.

00:43:48.000 I tell you, man, the age of artificial intelligence is a little bit of a tangent here, but those jobs will be displaced.

00:43:53.000 Lawyers displaced.

00:43:55.000 They're not going to have jobs.

00:43:56.000 AI is going to do it for them.

00:43:58.000 For us.

00:43:58.000 We don't need to pay middlemen.

00:43:59.000 Let's pause real quick.

00:44:01.000 There's already been a bunch of scandals where lawyers were caught drafting up legal arguments using ChatGPT.

00:44:06.000 Oh my gosh.

00:44:06.000 And it manufactured fake precedent.

00:44:08.000 And it put in fake cases.

00:44:10.000 And judges were like, that's not a real case. 0.98

00:44:12.000 Yeah, maybe you would call them the parasite class.

00:44:14.000 But people that are trying to profit off of things you should be able to do yourself if you only knew how.

00:44:20.000 Those people are going to be...

00:44:21.000 Those jobs will be terminated shortly.

00:44:23.000 Say that again?

00:44:24.000 People that are profiting off of...

00:44:26.000 Doing something for you that you should know how to do yourself.

00:44:29.000 Like what?

00:44:30.000 Like a lawyer.

00:44:31.000 You should be able to represent yourself in court.

00:44:33.000 You're legally allowed to.

00:44:34.000 And if you knew enough about it, you could.

00:44:36.000 But because of the cost of schooling, and not everyone wants to, I get that, but you still can, those jobs are going to be...

00:44:43.000 It's largely because the lawyer game is not about what's true and correct.

00:44:47.000 It's about what you can argue.

00:44:49.000 And so we...

00:44:51.000 In this country, like based on what you're saying, we believe that good men of honor and integrity who are trying to get to the truth should be able to make those arguments.

00:44:59.000 But then the issue is there's rules in court.

00:45:01.000 There's rules to how you can argue or present a case.

00:45:05.000 There's when is the office open?

00:45:07.000 If you file this paper and get this permit, when does it got to be submitted to this office?

00:45:10.000 And if you don't know those things, you're going to lose.

00:45:13.000 A person representing themself, that's why they have a fool for a client, as the saying goes, because they're going to walk in and be like, I'm honest, I have the truth on my side, and I'll tell people the truth, and then the lawyer's going to say, Your Honor, based on this reason and that reason, strike that from the record.

00:45:26.000 And then the judge is going to be like, your evidence is out, and you're like, wait, why?

00:45:29.000 But with a good artificial intelligence program that will guide you through the process and let you avoid all those pitfalls, you may be on par with the people that went to school for eight years for it.

00:45:39.000 You'll be in prison, and you'll have a cellmate, and they'll be like, what are you in for?

00:45:42.000 And you'll be like, honestly, I... I didn't do anything, nor was I arrested.

00:45:44.000 But the AI made a miscalculation on my name and put me instead of the other guy who was also named Tim Pool in prison.

00:45:49.000 Maybe at first.

00:45:50.000 I mean, it's not going to be a perfect process.

00:45:52.000 But I think that's the idea is that it is going to displace 40% of the workplace or something within the next five years.

00:45:57.000 I'm a huge AI skeptic.

00:45:58.000 I think we're being sold a false bill of goods.

00:46:00.000 And the market evaluation boom that we've been seeing off of the marketing of AI, it doesn't hold water in any way.

00:46:09.000 People talk about the applications of AI. I don't think we're going to see.

00:46:13.000 I think we've been sold false technological advances in the past that haven't panned out, and we're just being sold more and more of them now.

00:46:21.000 I think the chatbots that we see now are wrong half of the time.

00:46:25.000 With full self-driving.

00:46:26.000 We don't have full self-driving in a meaningful way.

00:46:29.000 What do you mean?

00:46:30.000 I do it every day.

00:46:32.000 Yeah, what do you mean?

00:46:32.000 We have full self-driving in certain parts of the country that isn't completely safe.

00:46:36.000 No, that's not true.

00:46:36.000 That's not true.

00:46:37.000 I can get in.

00:46:37.000 I have two Teslas, and I push a button, I put my hands down, and I stare, and it drives by itself.

00:46:41.000 You need to hold the wheel.

00:46:42.000 No, you don't.

00:46:42.000 That's not true.

00:46:43.000 You don't need to hold the wheel.

00:46:44.000 It doesn't go wrong.

00:46:45.000 It doesn't ever.

00:46:46.000 No, but here's what he...

00:46:47.000 Three years?

00:46:48.000 Two years ago, maybe.

00:46:49.000 But right now, if I get into my Tesla, I click the button one time, and it drives straight to my destination.

00:46:55.000 So tonight, we're supposed to have an ice storm here or something.

00:46:57.000 You are going to be willing to go and click a button and take you home to wherever you need to drive right now.

00:47:02.000 In these back roads in West Virginia, where you can barely see...

00:47:05.000 Let me pause you right there.

00:47:06.000 Go ahead.

00:47:08.000 In many circumstances, the car reacts better than I do, and a human being does.

00:47:14.000 So...

00:47:14.000 Actually, when we were driving, it was last year in a snowstorm, I let the car drive itself.

00:47:20.000 Because do you know how to respond to hydroplaning?

00:47:24.000 Tell me what to do if you hydroplane.

00:47:25.000 You're supposed to brake hard and then let the auto...

00:47:28.000 Negative.

00:47:29.000 You're supposed to very gently tap it.

00:47:31.000 Don't slam the brakes.

00:47:32.000 I'm not going to argue with any of you because my self-driving car automatically adapts to hydroplaning and corrects itself.

00:47:38.000 And they have new brakes that will automatically adapt for you if you slam them.

00:47:42.000 The point is you can be a skeptic about AI all you'd like, but AI is advancing faster than...

00:47:50.000 You could believe the end of this year, full self-driving unsupervised is alleged to be released.

00:47:57.000 If not the end of this year, it'll be first quarter or something like that next year, which means where you don't have to watch it.

00:48:02.000 Like right now, if you're driving, you do have to keep your head up and look at the road.

00:48:06.000 There will be coming shortly one where you don't.

00:48:10.000 That's what the Tesla taxi is based on.

00:48:13.000 The autonomous taxi is based on.

00:48:16.000 The person doesn't have to do anything.

00:48:18.000 Waymo does it right now.

00:48:19.000 Exactly.

00:48:20.000 Yeah, but they use LiDAR.

00:48:21.000 We don't have widespread effective, as I understand, still on the streets, self-driving cars.

00:48:27.000 You're wrong.

00:48:27.000 I think with chatbots, if I can continue.

00:48:29.000 I actually agree.

00:48:31.000 Chatbots are telling you you're wrong.

00:48:32.000 I have a Tesla, too, with full self-driving.

00:48:35.000 But here's the thing.

00:48:36.000 The edge cases are the main...

00:48:38.000 It can do most, like 99% of things it can do.

00:48:41.000 But the problem is, if you're going to do it for everyday application and over long periods of time...

00:48:47.000 It still has problems with edge cases.

00:48:49.000 That's why it's not...

00:48:52.000 What's an example of an edge case?

00:48:53.000 An edge case will be, for example, if a leaf falls the exact way or there's like a strange object in the street that it doesn't know if it's like a shadow because it's working purely on vision because Tesla only does vision.

00:49:06.000 They got rid of the radar.

00:49:07.000 They don't do LIDAR. With just a vision, and it doesn't have any gimbals so it can move around and stuff, it's hard for it to completely identify objects the same way humans can in edge cases.

00:49:18.000 Let me pause real quick.

00:49:19.000 There's also a thing called blind spots.

00:49:21.000 That's been around since the creation of cars.

00:49:23.000 And humans also can't see 100% either.

00:49:26.000 And humans can do accents too.

00:49:28.000 No, I think it's safer than humans.

00:49:30.000 I think mile per mile right now, it's safer than humans.

00:49:33.000 If you're trying to have it as a day-to-day, long-term application, those edge cases are still what trips everything up.

00:49:40.000 Remember what started this conversation a lot is skeptical of AI. And the point is, AI is progressing faster than most people can say.

00:49:48.000 Whereas we can talk about edge cases all...

00:49:51.000 All we want.

00:49:52.000 And there are going to be edge cases and stuff like that.

00:49:54.000 AI is the technology that people say that.

00:49:57.000 So, Phil, I don't think that the AI that we're being marketed right now justifies the doubling, tripling, quadrupling of a lot of tech stocks that we're seeing right now in the stock market, is my point.

00:50:08.000 There are bubbles, absolutely.

00:50:09.000 That's what I'm trying to explain to you.

00:50:11.000 What's going on in the stock market is different from what's going on practically.

00:50:15.000 If you're talking about the cost or the valuation of companies, that's one thing.

00:50:22.000 But this is what happened with the dot-com bubble, too.

00:50:25.000 Everybody that had a dot-com, the prices went crazy on everything that was dot-com.

00:50:29.000 I agree with you about maybe there are companies that are overvalued, but it doesn't mean the underlying technology is not great.

00:50:35.000 Okay, so we're not...

00:50:36.000 Artificial isn't...

00:50:38.000 It's really a marketing ploy because it's not artificial intelligence in any serious way we think of the word.

00:50:43.000 These chatbots are next word predictors.

00:50:45.000 They're not actual artificial intelligence in the way that we think of a cognizant thing.

00:50:50.000 We were just talking about cars that drive themselves, not about LLMs.

00:50:55.000 I don't think that's why Amazon and Microsoft are quadrupling their market caps because of self-driving cars.

00:51:02.000 It's this different chatbot technology.

00:51:04.000 Tesla has been going nuts. 0.98

00:51:04.000 Okay, well, I didn't mention that specifically. 0.98

00:51:06.000 I'm talking about, you know, maybe three-fourths of the stock market that is, you know, booming because of these AI chips.

00:51:13.000 But these chatbots are wrong half of the time, and these evaluations aren't justified.

00:51:18.000 And I think we'll be seeing the consequences of that.

00:51:19.000 I wanted to kind of wrap back into the end of this talk about Elon and Doge because I think people's fear, this terror...

00:51:25.000 What's going to happen is this unelected bureaucrat has been appointed into office and he's going to be able to go into an agency and fire people without any congressional authority.

00:51:36.000 He's not a bureaucrat.

00:51:42.000 How do you define bureaucrat?

00:51:43.000 Bureaucrat is like an HR administrator who's like, hey, I want to come in here and use this room for Friday.

00:51:50.000 Okay, well, fill out Form H3B, then go speak with John over in administration, and he'll get you.

00:51:56.000 That's a bureaucrat.

00:51:57.000 And so the deep bureaucracy that people refer to at the deep state is that...

00:52:02.000 As we saw with the James O'Keefe undercover videos, Trump says, hey, we want to, say, pull all of our troops out of Syria.

00:52:09.000 Or no, no, RFK is a better example.

00:52:11.000 The guy said, RFK will say, let's get Florida out of water. 0.62

00:52:14.000 And they'll go, okay, we're going to put together the commission to figure out how to do this.

00:52:18.000 These are the people who are hired and basically just create bloat.

00:52:22.000 And obstacles to actually doing what RFK says just to do.

00:52:27.000 Yeah, in fact, Elon made the point that the bureaucracy is a government that is run by the Bureau, and he wants a democracy.

00:52:34.000 So he wants to bring it, or the meritocracy, not a bureaucracy.

00:52:38.000 So he wants to get away from the bureaucrats running, the Bureau running the government.

00:52:42.000 I agree with that.

00:52:43.000 But people are afraid that a guy that was unelected has been appointed.

00:52:47.000 He's a billionaire businessman, and he's going to now have the...

00:52:50.000 Unadulterated authority to go from organization to department and fire people.

00:52:56.000 It's a lie.

00:52:57.000 It's fake.

00:52:57.000 I don't think he can.

00:52:58.000 That's the thing.

00:52:59.000 I've been doing a lot of research, and I posted a great post on X, if you want to follow up on this.

00:53:04.000 The DOGE, the department, was basically U.S. Digital Services.

00:53:08.000 Trump renamed it U.S. DOGE Services.

00:53:10.000 It's the same organization that Obama created in 2014. It was legally created.

00:53:14.000 It's legally there.

00:53:15.000 He appointed...

00:53:16.000 Elon Musk is a special government employee.

00:53:19.000 I haven't seen an official appointment, so as far as I know, USDS, US Doge Services, doesn't have a current administrator.

00:53:27.000 I think Elon's acting as de facto administrator.

00:53:29.000 He might officially be there, but if you search for it, they give you the old administrator.

00:53:33.000 And he's doing legal appointments.

00:53:36.000 He's allowed to work for 130 days a year.

00:53:38.000 In that capacity as the administrator of Doge.

00:53:41.000 He is not the administrator of Doge.

00:53:42.000 I don't think there is one right now, which is concerning me.

00:53:44.000 So let's clarify, when you said he's allowed to work for a certain amount of time, it's irrelevant because he's not.

00:53:48.000 And why does it concern you?

00:53:50.000 Well, you said someone...

00:53:51.000 Because if he's doing the job...

00:53:54.000 De facto, but he's not technically appointed, that makes me nervous.

00:53:58.000 Why?

00:53:59.000 But why?

00:53:59.000 Because you're supposed to follow the law and appoint the person to do the job.

00:54:02.000 If they're doing it off the record, that's very dangerous for our country.

00:54:05.000 Well, he's an advisor to the president.

00:54:07.000 The president can select whoever he wants.

00:54:09.000 He's very concerned with process.

00:54:11.000 Ian wants bureaucracy.

00:54:14.000 I'm like Thomas Massey like this.

00:54:15.000 I'm obsessed with the process and the integrity of the process.

00:54:18.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:54:19.000 Can Trump ask a friend for advice?

00:54:21.000 Of course.

00:54:22.000 So we're done.

00:54:23.000 There's nothing wrong with it.

00:54:26.000 If that was all that was happening, but Elon was actually hired as a special government employee.

00:54:30.000 He's not getting paid.

00:54:30.000 He's not even paid.

00:54:31.000 But you can hire a special government employee with or without pay.

00:54:33.000 He's still a special advisor.

00:54:35.000 So he was hired legally to do a legal job.

00:54:38.000 I want to know what that was.

00:54:39.000 And what's happening now is, I'm going to shout out, I was watching The Daily Show last night, right?

00:54:44.000 Shout out Jon Stewart.

00:54:45.000 They literally, in the opening of the show, it says TDS in big bold letters.

00:54:50.000 For real.

00:54:51.000 And they were doing this segment called Is It Legal?

00:54:54.000 And they kept saying things that Elon or Trump had done.

00:54:57.000 And then this guy is increasingly with books and messy glasses going, I don't know if it's legal.

00:55:03.000 And I just want to clarify something for you, Ian.

00:55:05.000 And I want to clarify something for everyone listening.

00:55:08.000 The question is not supposed to be, is it legal?

00:55:11.000 The question you need to answer that has no bearing on what we do or want is, is it illegal?

00:55:18.000 Because the reality is we do not operate in this country upon fear of something not being legal.

00:55:24.000 If it is not explicitly illegal, you can do it.

00:55:27.000 If it is codified in law that is illegal to do or unlawful, then you cannot.

00:55:32.000 So when Elon Musk does things and they're not codified in law as crimes or unethical or anything like that, asking the question, is it legal, is a waste of our time and is imposing upon free American individuals.

00:55:47.000 Some kind of responsibility to the government to check with them if we're allowed to take actions.

00:55:53.000 No.

00:55:54.000 It is the other way around.

00:55:55.000 The government's beholden to us.

00:55:57.000 If Congress wants to pass a law and write it down and say you can't do this, there's no question of is it legal?

00:56:03.000 We do things as we see it, and if you've got a problem, what did we find?

00:56:07.000 They're trying to pass a new bill, the Elon Musk Act.

00:56:10.000 That's right.

00:56:11.000 Because what Elon is doing is totally legal, and there's no law saying he can't do it.

00:56:15.000 That's what I'm wondering.

00:56:16.000 So the executive order that Trump created Doge with, it mandates that Doge has an administrator that reports to the White House chief of staff.

00:56:26.000 And I don't know who that administrator is.

00:56:28.000 In order for this organization to function, it needs an administrator.

00:56:31.000 I suppose it would just default to the president until he appoints one.

00:56:34.000 Let's just pause real quick.

00:56:35.000 Who cares about that organization?

00:56:38.000 Well, that's the organization that's credited with doing the work right now.

00:56:41.000 So what?

00:56:42.000 So who's running it?

00:56:43.000 Who cares?

00:56:44.000 I do, man.

00:56:45.000 For what reason?

00:56:46.000 Why?

00:56:47.000 Because that's the process of our government.

00:56:48.000 If you're going to, through executive order, create an agency that says you need an administrator, but then you never appoint one, what the hell is going on?

00:56:55.000 Where does it say you need an administrator for that?

00:56:56.000 It says it in the executive order in section 2, 3B? Read down.

00:57:01.000 It's section 2. It's in section 2 of the executive order.

00:57:05.000 We can pull it up.

00:57:07.000 It says, here, I'll pull up the executive order right now.

00:57:10.000 If you were to ask...

00:57:12.000 It is not a budgeted part of the United States government, which requires approval from Congress.

00:57:21.000 No, let me pause.

00:57:22.000 Let me pause again.

00:57:23.000 The U.S. Digital Service, despite its name, is not a budgeted part of the U.S. government, which requires approval from the United States Congress.

00:57:31.000 Correct.

00:57:31.000 It was created by executive order by Obama.

00:57:33.000 So it is not a budgeted part of the U.S. government.

00:57:36.000 Yeah.

00:57:37.000 So that means it's operating under only executive order so Trump can literally do what he wants as the executive.

00:57:41.000 Well, he signed the executive order that it says the establishment of a temporary organization that shall there should be a U.S. Doge Services administrator established in the executive office of the president shall report to the White House chief of staff that section 3B of the executive order.

00:57:55.000 You would feel more comfortable if he did another executive order saying, OK, we don't need an administrator.

00:57:59.000 Or if he appointed someone as the administrator publicly.

00:58:01.000 This is this is I got to be honest, you're arguing like.

00:58:06.000 The door is supposed to be locked, but you have a deadbolt.

00:58:08.000 It's like a deadbolt is locked.

00:58:09.000 I'm steelmanning the argument that it's illegal.

00:58:11.000 I want to make sure that we seal this up so that it can't be...

00:58:14.000 Broken up in court and undone.

00:58:15.000 I think you're getting into nuance that quite literally not even the Democrats are getting into in terms of their complaints.

00:58:20.000 I don't know, man.

00:58:21.000 Maybe.

00:58:21.000 Maybe not.

00:58:22.000 Maybe not.

00:58:22.000 I think the arguments against Elon Musk is that he has many interests that the government is also involved in, and there's a conflict of interest there.

00:58:31.000 He also has many business interests abroad.

00:58:33.000 So, for example, he has SpaceX here, obviously Tesla here.

00:58:36.000 He also has mega Tesla factories in China.

00:58:39.000 So these are conflicts of interest down the line that could be an issue.

00:58:42.000 If the government...

00:58:43.000 That's the best argument I could think.

00:58:44.000 I also do think Doge and Elon Musk is doing a good job.

00:58:46.000 I think so, too.

00:58:47.000 But there are credible arguments that this is a conflict of interest.

00:58:49.000 The concern is that if the president by executive order sets up a department that oversees tech companies, and then they hire a special government employee that happens to be the CEO of a tech company to oversee that organization that oversees tech companies while he's still the CEO of a tech company, you've got a big conflict of interest.

00:59:07.000 Well, what if Xi Jinping just starts penalizing Elon Musk's mega factories in China?

00:59:13.000 You know, then Elon Musk will feel the pain and he would, you know, hypothetically try to get Trump to work with them to stop, you know, penalizing him in China.

00:59:21.000 You understand that?

00:59:23.000 No, no, no.

00:59:23.000 Say that again.

00:59:23.000 The issue with Elon Musk is that he has many business interests, domestic and abroad, that could potentially influence his thinking when talking to Trump.

00:59:31.000 So, for example, in China, he has many mega Tesla factories.

00:59:34.000 And if Xi Jinping wanted to penalize Elon Musk, he could hypothetically make it harder for him to do business in these factories.

00:59:39.000 And that could influence the way Elon Musk would try to get Trump to negotiate on Xi Jinping with...

00:59:44.000 Not stopping Trump.

00:59:45.000 Does that make sense here?

00:59:46.000 Am I doing...

00:59:47.000 Import tariffs from China, so...

00:59:49.000 Yeah, but I don't know if that hit the Tesla stuff.

00:59:51.000 Because Tesla doesn't really import from their factories.

00:59:55.000 Beyond the international stuff, even domestically, Elon Musk has a lot of business interests with SpaceX, where he has to work closely with the government.

01:00:01.000 So the argument would be that having a close advisor who has so many interests with the government could be a conflict of interest.

01:00:08.000 Yeah, it doesn't mean that it's illegal.

01:00:09.000 No, not illegal, but it's a conflict of interest.

01:00:13.000 It could be a conflict of interest.

01:00:14.000 It is a conflict of interest.

01:00:15.000 I think the issue here...

01:00:17.000 I'll just give you my perspective.

01:00:18.000 This is a degree of granular, bureaucratic debate that matters nothing to me.

01:00:26.000 My concern is that we have departments like USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy or whatever.

01:00:32.000 We have these...

01:00:35.000 Activist organizations around the world that are being funded to the tune of massive amounts of money.

01:00:39.000 And so when I see Elon Musk going and be like, hey guys, did you realize they just gave like $8 million over the past, you know, $3 million a year to this news organization for bloated subscriptions?

01:00:47.000 I go, oh wow, why are we wasting that money?

01:00:49.000 I don't care if it's a substantial portion of the revenue of that company.

01:00:52.000 I just think I'd rather give all of that $8 million to a single 9-11 first responder in need of help.

01:00:57.000 Literally, let's just do that.

01:00:58.000 How about that?

01:00:58.000 Let's all agree.

01:01:00.000 That instead of spending $30 million or whatever the number is in various media subscriptions, we just give that to one first responder or one veteran.

01:01:07.000 I think that's just a better use of our time.

01:01:09.000 So anyway, my point is this.

01:01:11.000 Elon Musk is going in as effectively an advisor to the president, as a special employee.

01:01:17.000 Trump could do it himself, but he's a busy guy.

01:01:19.000 He has the authority to do it himself, but he's a busy guy.

01:01:22.000 So he says, Elon, you've got business experience.

01:01:25.000 Go and find the bloat.

01:01:26.000 And we have found so much insane bloat.

01:01:29.000 Teaching Moroccans pottery.

01:01:31.000 For real.

01:01:32.000 That was a really funny one I heard.

01:01:33.000 I've been doing it for thousands of years.

01:01:35.000 Right?

01:01:37.000 There's one where it's spreading atheism in Pakistan, I think, or something like that.

01:01:41.000 There was one where it was doing gender-themed plays in Peru or something.

01:01:47.000 So when Elon's like, hey, this is $40 million of your money going to these programs, I go, that's a really big problem.

01:01:57.000 And then with all due respect, you come and say, but is Elon allowed to point this out?

01:02:01.000 And I'm like, well, Trump could point it out, but Trump asked Elon to do it.

01:02:04.000 So I really don't care about the nuance or the granular bureaucratic debate of how do we, through the parliamentarian process, formalize Elon Musk when not even Democrats care about that.

01:02:16.000 There are times when I think that We talked about this last night, that breaking the law is the only way to move forward, like suspension of habeas corpus after the Civil War.

01:02:24.000 They just dispensed with the Constitution and were like, we're just going to do what we need to do to establish order.

01:02:27.000 Yeah, that was wrong.

01:02:28.000 Well, but it worked.

01:02:30.000 Did it?

01:02:31.000 Apparently.

01:02:32.000 Well, not apparently.

01:02:33.000 It's a question of what did it do?

01:02:34.000 No.

01:02:35.000 What did the suspension of habeas corpus do?

01:02:37.000 It allowed the government to do crazy stuff.

01:02:38.000 Where and why?

01:02:39.000 I don't know the specifics, but I know that they dispensed with the Constitution for a short period of time.

01:02:43.000 The suspension of habeas corpus was a corridor between D.C. and Pennsylvania, specifically because Maryland was a slave state, and they needed access to D.C., and they were concerned that the sympathies of Maryland would interfere with their ability to move troops to protect D.C. So they said from this corridor, from here to down here, in this area, don't mess with the U.S. We are at war.

01:03:04.000 And there was an instance where a random guy got locked up.

01:03:06.000 And he refused to play ball and they held them until the war was over and let him go.

01:03:09.000 There was an instance where they went and arrested a bunch of the state representatives from Maryland for having Southern sympathies.

01:03:16.000 These things, I don't feel, were good.

01:03:18.000 And I don't know that we have evidence that doing that actually improved the efforts.

01:03:23.000 To be fair, you can say the U.S. government is securing this corridor under martial law.

01:03:30.000 But the argument that the general suspension of habeas corpus was a good thing that needed to happen, I don't know that that's true.

01:03:35.000 I know.

01:03:35.000 And in this situation, if people, if they feel like, look, we have been subjugated by a business class, by bureaucracy since 1913, the Federal Reserve, these bureaucrats have taken over our country.

01:03:45.000 We need to suspend some sort of metaphorical habeas corpus to get our country back.

01:03:49.000 I mean, and they're willing to break the law.

01:03:52.000 The jury's out on whether or not that's a good thing because it's the first step on a slippery slope.

01:03:57.000 If you do it now, you think the next president's not going to do it?

01:04:01.000 They probably will.

01:04:02.000 So you've got to be real careful about adhering to every letter of the law.

01:04:05.000 That's why I'm bringing it up.

01:04:06.000 We have long maintained this position of, but guys, the Democrats are doing bad thing, and if we try to stop them, then what happens if later on someone else uses the powers we created to do bad thing as well?

01:04:19.000 What that ignores in the slippery slope argument is that a bad thing is currently happening.

01:04:24.000 So the Democrats are abusing the system.

01:04:26.000 Spending money with reckless abandon to burn everything down and spread their crackpot Marxist ideology.

01:04:32.000 And we go, wait, if we stop them doing evil, later in the future, someone else might do evil.

01:04:38.000 And I say, okay, when that happens, we will fight against that evil the same as we fight against this evil right now.

01:04:46.000 That's the only thing I see.

01:04:48.000 Because otherwise, you end up with these scenarios where it's like...

01:04:50.000 We better not implement this new policy lest they use it against us.

01:04:55.000 And it's like, but they're using evil things against us right now.

01:04:59.000 We have to just win the culture war. 0.69

01:05:00.000 Yeah, like, you've got in Dungeons& Dragons, it's a kind of silly metaphor, you've got law and chaos.

01:05:05.000 You know, you get to pick.

01:05:06.000 How lawful do I want to be?

01:05:07.000 How chaotic?

01:05:07.000 You get to pick on that scale.

01:05:08.000 And I'm sort of in the middle.

01:05:10.000 Like, if a law is evil, then you should not do it. 0.92

01:05:14.000 The Nazis, for instance, made all that crap they were doing legal in Germany. 0.87

01:05:18.000 People should have been—they were. 0.95

01:05:19.000 People that were hiding Jews in their attic and stuff were basically violating the law to do good.

01:05:24.000 So you've got your law versus chaos, and then you've got your good versus evil.

01:05:27.000 And you can be chaotic as hell and be really good.

01:05:30.000 That's Robin Hood.

01:05:31.000 Ian, there's breaking news.

01:05:32.000 Good.

01:05:34.000 Elon just announced that he's going to be redirecting the USAID funds into graphene production, so long as Ian stops calling him out.

01:05:44.000 The Robin Hood of graphene.

01:05:46.000 Let's jump to this next story, ladies and gentlemen.

01:05:48.000 We got this from the Post Millennial.

01:05:49.000 Rep Ilhan Omar advises Somali immigrants not to comply with ICE deportations.

01:05:55.000 We then have this video from Libs of TikTok.

01:05:58.000 Rep Dan Goldman is now putting out videos in Chinese instructing illegal aliens how to evade ICE. Why is he trying to protect Chinese murderers, spies, and criminals who are in our country illegally?

01:06:10.000 Well, let me show you this.

01:06:12.000 This is 1907 Title 8 USC 1324A Offenses, which includes something called encouraging or inducing, subsection 1324A1A4, makes it an offense for any person who encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to entry or residence is or will be in violation of the law.

01:06:40.000 In other words, Rep.

01:06:41.000 Dan Goldman, AOC, Ilhan Omar, and many other Democrats are quite literally violating a federal law which has a penalty for inducement of up to five years in prison.

01:06:53.000 So I really doubt the DOJ is going to come after these people and put them in prison.

01:06:58.000 But they're quite literally breaking federal law by doing this.

01:07:02.000 And so my question to all of you as we jump into this story, what happens if we don't enforce this law?

01:07:08.000 And we tell Democrats, as a large political class, you can break it.

01:07:12.000 Well, it's arguable if they are breaking.

01:07:14.000 So, for example, if they are saying...

01:07:17.000 And this goes out to all my illegal immigrant friends out there, and I'm telling you this, that would probably be breaking the law. 0.99

01:07:24.000 But if they're saying, hey, a lot of people who aren't illegal, people who are maybe asylum people and other various legal status migrants are getting caught up in this sort of stuff, and they're telling it for those people, and maybe it could apply to illegals, that would not necessarily be illegal.

01:07:44.000 Well, I mean, I'm not sure.

01:07:46.000 If that's actually the case or not.

01:07:48.000 And I'm not sure exactly how they're articulating what they're actually saying.

01:07:53.000 There are people that are saying, oh, well, if they're just informing people of their right to remain silent, that's not illegal.

01:08:00.000 And I'm not so sure that it isn't because these people are residing here.

01:08:06.000 Let's just take a pause real quick.

01:08:10.000 If a guy walked into a bank and went to the teller and said, Can you please, with expedience, empty out that drawer and fill this sack up for me?

01:08:21.000 When the police show up to arrest him for bank robbery and he goes, I wasn't robbing them.

01:08:26.000 I just asked them if they would give me their money and they said yes.

01:08:28.000 Do you think that's going to fly in court?

01:08:31.000 That particular circumstance, probably not.

01:08:34.000 So the issue at play is, the question is going to be, do Ilhan Omar and does AOC and Dan Goldman know that the information they are giving No, but they've been citing cases where that has been the case.

01:08:57.000 And a lot of the people that they're saying, for example, do you actually believe?

01:09:02.000 That AOC, Goldman and Omar are specifically trying to inform legal residents of the United States their legal rights?

01:09:08.000 I think in their opinion, a lot of them are.

01:09:11.000 For example, the Haitian stuff.

01:09:12.000 I'll give you the Haitian stuff.

01:09:14.000 When Trump was citing the Haitian migrants in Ohio and everything, a lot of people on the Republican side are saying those are illegal migrants.

01:09:20.000 The Democrats are like, no, no, no.

01:09:22.000 Those people came in through legal programs, whatever.

01:09:24.000 I think a lot of us would argue, well, those were under the Biden administration.

01:09:28.000 They like made illegal immigration. 0.64

01:09:30.000 I understand that.

01:09:31.000 My question is, do you actually think that Ilhan Omar, in this story specifically, is looking at legally residing Somali migrants?

01:09:39.000 It's not about what you think.

01:09:40.000 It's about what you can prove in court.

01:09:42.000 And that's my point.

01:09:44.000 So when you say it's questionable as to whether they vote the law, sure, but it doesn't matter.

01:09:47.000 Because I think any reasonable person knows they're not talking about legal residents who are scared of ICE. Because if you're a legal resident and ICE shows up to you and say, here's my green card, here's my ID, what's the problem?

01:09:57.000 They say, have a nice day.

01:09:58.000 When they're saying don't talk to them, that advice only applies to someone who does not have legal status.

01:10:05.000 I mean, that's what I would say, Jenna.

01:10:07.000 I think they're doing it for illegals, but I'm just saying from a prosecutorial perspective...

01:10:13.000 I think any...

01:10:14.000 Well, it depends on your jurisdiction.

01:10:15.000 If you go to New York...

01:10:18.000 The jury is going to say, can we nullify this because we want illegal immigrants here? 1.00

01:10:22.000 I'm not so sure about that anymore.

01:10:24.000 Fair point, fair point, fair point.

01:10:25.000 Now, it's really this simple.

01:10:28.000 If you had a jury of 12 individuals of regular random people and said, do you genuinely believe that when Dan Goldman spoke Mandarin advising people how to avoid ICE and immigration enforcement, do you believe his intention was to provide Relevant legal information to legally residing Americans, no one says yes.

01:10:51.000 I gotta push a little on it, unfortunately, because I'm enjoying this.

01:10:55.000 It's like people saying, don't talk to the cops.

01:10:57.000 Even if you've done nothing wrong, don't talk to the cops.

01:11:00.000 And this might be a similar, like you could argue this is a similar thing.

01:11:03.000 I think it is not, because first, when it comes to telling someone don't talk to the cops, that's a general broad statement that applies to all Americans of all status, whether they've committed crimes or not.

01:11:13.000 When you say specifically, Immigrations and Customers Enforcement is coming to deport illegal immigrants, if they approach you, do not talk to them. 0.99

01:11:22.000 We are talking about people who are actively committing a crime and you advising them on how to avoid, which is specifically codified in laws, inducing them to reside in this country.

01:11:32.000 If you went to someone, so there are other questions in other crimes being committed.

01:11:37.000 If someone had a bag of drugs on them and you said, you've got drugs on you?

01:11:41.000 Yo, bro, you got crack and cocaine?

01:11:43.000 That's a felony.

01:11:44.000 They're going to catch you, and when they do, you will go to prison.

01:11:47.000 Let me give you some advice to help you avoid law enforcement.

01:11:50.000 You can actually get in trouble for that.

01:11:52.000 If you're a lawyer and you said, look...

01:11:55.000 Actually, there's an interesting question about...

01:11:57.000 I'm not a lawyer.

01:11:59.000 I don't know if you guys know this.

01:12:01.000 If a person is actively in the process of committing a crime and you're a lawyer, is the lawyer required to report that?

01:12:06.000 I would hope they would be.

01:12:08.000 I don't know.

01:12:10.000 Lawyers are—so if you're a criminal, legit criminal, and you tell your lawyer, yes, I committed that crime, the lawyer can't—I'm pretty sure the lawyers aren't supposed to go out and say—but I don't know, though.

01:12:20.000 I don't know.

01:12:20.000 That could be wrong.

01:12:21.000 Like, I know therapists have to report it, but the issue at play here, there's specifically a law saying encouragement or inducement to reside illegally in the U.S. or with reckless disregard as to whether it would be legal or not.

01:12:35.000 It's very broad.

01:12:37.000 But I think it's fair to say— We understand what these Democrats are doing.

01:12:41.000 Trump is going after violent criminals, people who already broke the law, and Democrats are saying, we will provide you with materials to avoid detection, inducing them to reside here. 0.69

01:12:52.000 Well, in your drug example, I actually, I'm not sure, but I don't think it would be illegal to say, look, you just inform someone of their rights, even though you know they might have committed a crime.

01:13:04.000 Like, you're allowed to...

01:13:06.000 But if you said, for example, if your way of helping them is, hey, if you go hide in these specific locations or you do this or that, that's probably illegal.

01:13:15.000 But if you would just inform people of their rights when it comes to dealing with law enforcement, I don't think that would necessarily constitute a crime.

01:13:23.000 I do think lawyers are required to report if their clients are actively committing crimes.

01:13:29.000 Well, I think they're still allowed to represent them, it's just the argument has to change.

01:13:33.000 So it's like, if your client murdered someone, you would say, yes, he killed this individual, but you have to like, you say there's like a mitigating circumstance and you try to get a...

01:13:44.000 Lower sentence, or maybe not guilty by reason of insanity.

01:13:49.000 I don't know.

01:13:49.000 The thing here is that I think they're obfuscating really hard with the immigrants versus illegal immigrants.

01:13:56.000 Even in this post-millennial article, they're saying Somali immigrants.

01:14:00.000 So if they're not talking to illegals, I don't know what the exact argument would be.

01:14:04.000 Here's the thing.

01:14:04.000 None of us are lawyers, but I'll tell you who is one.

01:14:06.000 Dan Goldman, he graduated from Stanford, and he was actually one of the impeachment prosecutors, I think, for one of the Trump cases.

01:14:12.000 So I'm sure this guy...

01:14:14.000 The thing too here is that it's a total virtue signal.

01:14:17.000 I don't think anybody's reading Dan Goldman's Chinese tweet about like...

01:14:21.000 Who is a Chinese person in Chinatown and using that information to try to avoid police? 1.00

01:14:26.000 And I have full confidence in our police and ICE service members that they will be able to get the job done despite, you know, Ilhan Omar giving hints about, you know, not opening the door or what have you.

01:14:37.000 And what actually helps their defense is how kind of like alarmist they've been with their language, like saying, Trump's going to deport.

01:14:44.000 Everyone who's an immigrant, like, not even stipulating illegal or whatever. 0.98

01:14:49.000 They're just like, if you're just brown in America, they want to deport you and kill you. 0.97

01:14:53.000 So that would probably help them in a court of law. 0.89

01:14:56.000 I would need to hear specifics about what Ilhan said in this instance for this to see, like, did she incite them to continue to break the law?

01:15:06.000 Did she focus on illegal?

01:15:07.000 And there's a quote right there.

01:15:08.000 I advise the Somalian people that if ICE attempts to question you, you are not obligated to answer the question.

01:15:15.000 That's a legal statement.

01:15:16.000 That's like a don't talk to cops type statement.

01:15:19.000 Right, and so there's a difference in that.

01:15:24.000 It is codified as a crime to induce someone to reside illegally in the U.S. That's the distinction.

01:15:30.000 It is not codified anywhere that inducing someone, like telling someone drugs are cool or whatever, I'm pretty sure it's not illegal, you know, giving your opinion on those things.

01:15:38.000 But if someone is not a legal resident here and you are telling them they can stay...

01:15:43.000 Here's how you avoid detection from law enforcement.

01:15:45.000 That may be inducement under the law.

01:15:47.000 That's illegal.

01:15:48.000 In these instances, it's...

01:15:50.000 Well, I mean, everything is maybe because you have to prove it in a court.

01:15:52.000 Well, no, we actually don't know if doing this particular thing would be...

01:15:57.000 Like, even if it was just outright, like, I am informing illegal immigrants of their rights when it comes to law enforcement.

01:16:04.000 I still don't think that necessarily would be illegal.

01:16:07.000 Oh, yeah, but if she said illegal immigrants should... 1.00

01:16:11.000 That's an opinion. 0.91

01:16:13.000 This is why they say when Trump is like, there's violent criminals who enter the country illegally, they go, Trump hates immigrants.

01:16:20.000 That was the 8 U.S. Code 1324 is what you were talking about, right, Tim?

01:16:26.000 Yes.

01:16:26.000 So it says, any person who encourages or induces an alien to come to enter or reside in encourages to reside in.

01:16:36.000 Giving someone legal advice when it comes to their rights, when it comes to law enforcement, is not you necessarily encouraging them to reside in the United States.

01:16:46.000 It might have the effect of them residing if they're successful or whatever, but that's more of a matter of process.

01:16:54.000 So all the NGOs, here's the thing.

01:16:57.000 The bus drivers in Arizona that were loading up with illegal immigrants and bringing them in. 0.55

01:17:03.000 They need to go to prison.

01:17:04.000 Oh, this is interesting because people are terrified of political retribution right now.

01:17:09.000 And we've got to be real specific.

01:17:10.000 Prosecutorial discretion is key.

01:17:12.000 Donald Trump and the DOJ needs to find those bus drivers that were ferrying illegal immigrants into the country.

01:17:17.000 And they knew they were because James O'Keefe exposed them and put them in prison.

01:17:21.000 If they were doing it still, I would agree on the spot.

01:17:25.000 But because they were doing it under the authority of a president.

01:17:28.000 No, they knew it was wrong.

01:17:29.000 Watch the videos from James O'Keefe.

01:17:30.000 They panic when they find out that they have been filmed breaking the law.

01:17:35.000 They knew what they were doing was illegal, and they did it anyway because they got cash for it.

01:17:39.000 Lock them up.

01:17:40.000 I think Tom Homan should take this as a challenge.

01:17:43.000 Were they illegal or asylum seekers?

01:17:45.000 I don't know.

01:17:46.000 Well, that's how they try to obfuscate. 0.63

01:17:48.000 And then you were spot on earlier when you mentioned how Joe Biden legalized a lot of citizens.

01:17:54.000 I think the pilots of aircraft.

01:17:57.000 Who knew they had illegal immigrants on their planes should also be charged. 1.00

01:18:01.000 I mean, it was definitely an unethical thing to do.

01:18:03.000 It was a fact during the past four years that there were commercial flights where pilots knew they were ferrying large amounts of illegal immigrants across the country.

01:18:13.000 You also had this story where, into Tennessee, I think it was, they were taking illegal immigrant children, putting them on planes and flying them into various cities.

01:18:22.000 One of the big stories was Westchester, New York, in the middle of the night.

01:18:26.000 Illegal immigrants were being ferried into these places, some using government taxpayer money.

01:18:31.000 People flew those planes.

01:18:33.000 You know, it's very similar.

01:18:34.000 People serviced those flights, and they should have said no.

01:18:36.000 Should we criminally charge Greg Abbott for bussing all the illegal migrants to New York? 1.00

01:18:41.000 There's a question about that.

01:18:42.000 Hey, between him and DeSantis, bro, I don't like what they're doing here, so...

01:18:46.000 To be fair, they were trying to deport them, and Biden wouldn't let them.

01:18:50.000 Hey, Tish James, secure our borders here in New York. 0.98

01:18:53.000 Mayor Adams is constantly complaining about this.

01:18:55.000 You gotta go after the guy...

01:18:56.000 The guy's...

01:18:57.000 What?

01:18:57.000 Here in New York?

01:18:58.000 He's from New York.

01:18:59.000 He's a New Yorker.

01:19:01.000 It's kind of like after the Civil War, they really did kind of have the authority to imprison all those Confederates.

01:19:07.000 All the ones that fought, they could have been like...

01:19:10.000 Authority?

01:19:11.000 Yeah, like...

01:19:12.000 They won a war.

01:19:13.000 Insurrection.

01:19:14.000 Like, you guys all were part of an insurrection.

01:19:16.000 You're all...

01:19:16.000 They could have imprisoned and destroyed.

01:19:19.000 Let's just pause for a quick and make something clear.

01:19:21.000 The winners of a war do what they want to the losers.

01:19:24.000 And they could have obliterated it.

01:19:26.000 There's no legal precedent for, like, it's not a legal codified law issue of when you get to go to war.

01:19:33.000 War happens.

01:19:34.000 And so what you're really saying is the Confederates were conquered.

01:19:37.000 And the union could have done whatever they wanted, as were the words of Ulysses S. Grant when he said, you have a right to revolt, but when you lose, you will be ruled over by your betters.

01:19:45.000 So it's a similar, much less magnitude, what we're experiencing right now with people that broke the law, escorting illegal migrants across the country and into the country.

01:19:54.000 They were doing what you could consider after the fact a violation of law, but like, do you prosecute and imprison them all?

01:20:00.000 Because it's similar with the Confederates.

01:20:01.000 You could have...

01:20:02.000 Really went after them, and they didn't because they wanted reunification.

01:20:05.000 And give them court supervision.

01:20:06.000 We're back to the Civil War again.

01:20:07.000 But here's what happens.

01:20:08.000 They go to court.

01:20:10.000 They stand in front of the jury of their peers, and when they're convicted, the judge says, we're going to give you court supervision and a $50 fine.

01:20:16.000 You were faring illegals, and that's going to be on your record. 1.00

01:20:19.000 Also, the left is going to attempt to impeach Donald Trump again should they take the House in two years.

01:20:26.000 100%.

01:20:27.000 There will be continuation of lawfare.

01:20:32.000 All the stuff that was happening under Biden's presidency.

01:20:36.000 If a Democrat wins after Donald Trump, all of that stuff is going to go back into effect.

01:20:41.000 So they'll go after the media again.

01:20:44.000 They're going to go after Trump's family.

01:20:46.000 They're going to go after people that are in the Trump administration.

01:20:49.000 They will go after Elon Musk.

01:20:51.000 This is all guaranteed.

01:20:54.000 This is an example of you manifesting a future.

01:20:56.000 Let's jump to the story from Vibe.

01:20:58.000 Donald Trump faces first articles of impeachment in the second term.

01:21:02.000 It has begun, ladies and gentlemen.

01:21:03.000 Rep Al Green, he has begun.

01:21:05.000 And still I rise, Mr. Speaker.

01:21:09.000 And I rise today, Mr. Speaker, with a to whom it may concern message.

01:21:15.000 To whom it may concern, ethnic cleansing in Gaza is not a joke, especially when it emanates from the president of the United States, the most powerful person in the world, when he has the ability to perfect what when he has the ability to perfect what he says.

01:21:35.000 Well, I don't care about his grandstanding.

01:21:36.000 Injustice...

01:21:38.000 I rise to announce that the movement to impeach the president has begun.

01:21:44.000 I rise to announce that I will bring articles of impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed.

01:21:54.000 And dastardly deeds done.

01:21:56.000 This is the future.

01:21:57.000 I also rise to say...

01:21:59.000 I don't care what else you got to say, buddy.

01:22:01.000 It's kind of vague.

01:22:02.000 That gold-plated cane is really...

01:22:04.000 This is what American politics are going to be moving forward.

01:22:09.000 It's so backwards because...

01:22:10.000 Is politics singular or plural?

01:22:11.000 It's both.

01:22:12.000 Yeah.

01:22:13.000 I thought that same thing.

01:22:14.000 You could say politics is great.

01:22:16.000 I think it's that.

01:22:17.000 Politics is great.

01:22:18.000 Anyway, Elon.

01:22:18.000 Sorry.

01:22:19.000 I was going to say...

01:22:20.000 The real backwards and ironic thing here is that Trump is trying to bring a historic peace to the Middle East where he's really taken conventional wisdom and flipped it on his head.

01:22:31.000 And he would continue to be a historic figure and be a more historic figure after bringing peace to Gaza.

01:22:37.000 And that's what they're going to try to impeach him for.

01:22:39.000 When he said he wanted to buy Gaza to take over.

01:22:42.000 No.

01:22:42.000 He didn't say buy.

01:22:43.000 No.

01:22:45.000 They're not trying to impeach him for what he's doing in Gaza.

01:22:49.000 They're trying to impeach him because he is the opposition and what he's doing in Gaza is simply the excuse.

01:22:56.000 They impeached him two times after he was...

01:22:59.000 He was elected.

01:23:00.000 They are impeaching him because he's actually a representative of the American people and he is not a member of the approved deep state, whatever you want to call it, the approved elite class.

01:23:11.000 It has nothing to do with Gaza and it has everything to do with he is doing things to the... 0.93

01:23:18.000 To the entrenched bureaucracy and the quote-unquote deep state that they find defensive.

01:23:24.000 It is not about Gaza at all.

01:23:26.000 It's not going to go anywhere.

01:23:29.000 The Republicans control the House.

01:23:32.000 MTG did it with Biden or whatever.

01:23:35.000 It's not going to go.

01:23:36.000 I mean, look, it may not, but if the Republicans don't hold the House in the midterms, there will be articles of impeachment drawn up.

01:23:44.000 I bet.

01:23:45.000 Anything.

01:23:46.000 Because this is going to be the future.

01:23:48.000 They're drawing them up already.

01:23:49.000 Yeah.

01:23:50.000 But they're not going to make it anywhere.

01:23:51.000 And this guy's done this before.

01:23:53.000 It's good on him politically.

01:23:55.000 I'm sure he'll be able to go back to his district.

01:23:57.000 There are 450-some-odd reps, and he's going to go back to his district and say, Hey, I drafted up articles of impeachment against the fascists who's deporting all of our brothers and migrants here in town.

01:24:08.000 The point is this is going to continue to degrade the quality of our politics and the quality of our representatives, and it will probably end up with the United States becoming another basket case of a country in the long run.

01:24:24.000 Unless we can prevent these kind of people from being elected, but we have an electorate that continues to keep electing them.

01:24:31.000 Well, you've got to be responsible with what you're telling people is going to happen.

01:24:34.000 I can talk about stuff as I see it.

01:24:36.000 You're assuming right now.

01:24:38.000 Of course, I'm assuming that he's literally saying it.

01:24:43.000 Are you saying that Phil's assuming if the Democrats win the midterms, they'll impeach him?

01:24:47.000 Yes.

01:24:48.000 It's literally what they did in Trump's first term, and that's called predisposition.

01:24:52.000 Prediction.

01:24:53.000 Yes.

01:24:54.000 Sumptive prediction, yes.

01:24:56.000 And the idea that I should be reprimanded for articulating these ideas.

01:24:59.000 Just be responsible for what you're saying.

01:25:00.000 That's exactly what I'm doing.

01:25:02.000 If you want that to happen, go push it, man.

01:25:03.000 But if you don't want that to happen, create a better reality.

01:25:05.000 They're out of your mind.

01:25:07.000 And I'm not going to...

01:25:08.000 I'm absolutely not going to hold my tongue about ideas just because you think things can manifest.

01:25:13.000 Sorry.

01:25:14.000 What do you think you're doing with your spell?

01:25:17.000 I'm articulating my spell?

01:25:19.000 Yeah, you spell words.

01:25:20.000 Listen, nobody can...

01:25:21.000 Don't change the weather, Ian.

01:25:23.000 I cannot make things manifest in the world just because I'm talking about them. 0.68

01:25:27.000 That is ridiculous, okay?

01:25:29.000 I don't believe in it. 0.97

01:25:31.000 I don't believe in that stuff at all, dude.

01:25:33.000 It doesn't mean it's not real.

01:25:34.000 Phil, you can change the weather.

01:25:35.000 Ian manifested the 51st state of Gaza.

01:25:38.000 Dude, you go on TV and tell 500,000 people something's going to happen?

01:25:42.000 You don't think that they're going to self-fulfill his prophecy and stuff?

01:25:45.000 I don't care how much you don't like what I'm saying. 0.74

01:25:49.000 I do not give one crap about you worrying about spooky things going on because I said something.

01:25:57.000 I'm going to articulate what I think is possible or likely, whether you like it or not.

01:26:02.000 Okay, possible or likely is way better than saying it will happen.

01:26:05.000 Let's just, you know, make a bet.

01:26:07.000 A thousand bucks.

01:26:09.000 It's just, it's up to us, man.

01:26:11.000 You have a microphone, you have the power to change people's minds.

01:26:14.000 Up the stakes, Mitt Romney level, ten thousand bucks.

01:26:17.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure that if polymarket made a market for if Democrats win the midterms, they will impeach Donald Trump, it would be 100%.

01:26:28.000 It would be 98%.

01:26:29.000 Maybe it already exists.

01:26:31.000 I don't know.

01:26:31.000 Let's look it up.

01:26:33.000 Will Trump get impeached polymarket?

01:26:38.000 Yep.

01:26:39.000 Yep.

01:26:40.000 What's the...

01:26:42.000 Alright, so this is not with the...

01:26:46.000 This is not including winning the midterms, however.

01:26:52.000 What's the time on this?

01:26:54.000 So right now, will Trump be impeached in 2025?

01:26:57.000 12%.

01:26:58.000 That's a terrible bet.

01:27:00.000 Yeah, that's this year.

01:27:01.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:27:02.000 It's not.

01:27:03.000 Let me see if I can do a search on Trump impeachment and see what they offer up.

01:27:09.000 Is there one for his term?

01:27:12.000 Yeah, there is.

01:27:14.000 It's what I have, but there's nothing here.

01:27:15.000 So let's do impeach.

01:27:19.000 There's only one market, and it's will Trump be impeached this year.

01:27:23.000 So they don't have it.

01:27:24.000 They do not have it.

01:27:25.000 However, it's fair to say that any reasonable individual, based on literally what happened the first time, and literally the same guy filing the same articles like he did the first time, if the Democrats win the midterms, they will file to impeach Trump immediately.

01:27:41.000 Immediately.

01:27:42.000 It's very opportunistic.

01:27:44.000 For Democrats to impeach Trump, because whoever does it, whoever is the prosecutor in that will have political clout after that.

01:27:52.000 So for example, we're talking about Dan Goldman earlier.

01:27:54.000 He was the prosecutor in one of the Trump impeachments and went on to run for public office.

01:27:59.000 So there's a lot of opportunity here for a lot of Dems to advance their career by going at Trump.

01:28:04.000 When it comes to assuming the future, I think there are a lot of safe things to assume, like the sun will come up.

01:28:09.000 I will take a piss later.

01:28:11.000 Like, you can make basic assumptions that are pretty obvious.

01:28:14.000 And this might be one that, like, look, that's just the nature of politics.

01:28:18.000 He's already announced he's filing these, and the only thing he's missing now is the majority in the House to actually get the vote on it.

01:28:26.000 But there are things that might seem like, hey, it happened in the past, therefore, but...

01:28:31.000 With the power of mass media, like, and mass formation.

01:28:34.000 I do not believe that Democrats are all going to watch this clip of Phil saying, oh, no, they'll impeach.

01:28:38.000 And then they go, oh, my God, Phil's right.

01:28:41.000 We should impeach Trump.

01:28:42.000 If they're getting their political plays from Phil on Timcast IRL. But the opposite of his point.

01:28:48.000 They're like, whatever Phil says, I'll do the opposite.

01:28:50.000 Uh-oh, he said we're going to impeach.

01:28:51.000 Guess we should.

01:28:52.000 I could see a rationale for Dems to actually not impeach Trump, because I think some of the rationale the first time is, well, we can prevent him.

01:29:02.000 We could just dirty his name so much that he won't have the political capital to win another re-election.

01:29:08.000 He'll be dead in the Republican Party.

01:29:10.000 MAGA is dead.

01:29:11.000 Well, now that they saw it, it actually kind of helped him.

01:29:14.000 And the American people were kind of pissed that Dems wasted all this time and political capital on the impeachment.

01:29:21.000 To have them do that again, I think they would lose a lot of support, and I think it might be counterproductive.

01:29:27.000 I hope you're right.

01:29:28.000 I would like to see that.

01:29:29.000 I kind of think that what we're witnessing right now is Donald Trump's march to the sea.

01:29:36.000 I think that Trump has routed the deep state, and now he is just smashing through the institutions and raising their farms and raising their fields.

01:29:47.000 It doesn't mean the war is over.

01:29:50.000 But this is the point at which I don't know the deep state recovers from the gutting of USAID, CIA getting mass buyouts, FBI agents getting—the FBI sued Trump.

01:29:59.000 They sued the admin to stop the surveys from going out, and the FBI delivered a list of 5,000 agents who were working on the January 6th.

01:30:08.000 So it's over.

01:30:09.000 The lawsuit's now moot.

01:30:11.000 The judge is going to be like, he's already got the information.

01:30:12.000 Why are you suing?

01:30:13.000 So that's it.

01:30:14.000 This is— This is political, scorched-earth strategy that Trump is doing.

01:30:19.000 And Marco Rubio, a couple days ago, said that in five years we won't be talking about tariffs anymore because the U.S. dollar will no longer have the power that it has anymore.

01:30:29.000 Like, we've left the unipolar world now.

01:30:32.000 He's saying, like, he gave it a five-year time window, that the Russian, the BRICS, it's just become so powerful that this whole paradigm is like...

01:30:42.000 You know, to think that we're the ones in charge is kind of, you know, it's losing its fervor.

01:30:49.000 That'd be a dark, dark day on planet Earth.

01:30:52.000 I didn't see that one.

01:30:52.000 Yeah, I didn't see Rubio say that either.

01:30:54.000 It's on video?

01:30:55.000 Yeah, I saw it a couple days ago.

01:30:57.000 Can you tell me one more time, he said the dollar was going to be dead in five years.

01:30:59.000 He said that in five years we will no longer be discussing tariffs because they won't have any effect.

01:31:04.000 Right, because we're going to be on Bitcoin.

01:31:07.000 That would be true.

01:31:08.000 Eric Trump tweeted something like, now's a good time to get Ethereum.

01:31:12.000 Yes, yesterday.

01:31:13.000 He said that yesterday?

01:31:14.000 Yeah.

01:31:14.000 And the interesting thing is, they were working in the administration on something about, what did they say?

01:31:20.000 Tax-free American crypto?

01:31:22.000 Yeah, Solana, I think Ripple was in...

01:31:25.000 I think you said Ethereum, right?

01:31:27.000 Cardano, he didn't mention Ethereum.

01:31:29.000 Cardano was one.

01:31:30.000 HBAR was another one. 0.68

01:31:31.000 These American-based cryptocurrencies will be tax-exempt from capital gains.

01:31:37.000 I don't know if that's true, though.

01:31:38.000 I own some Cardano.

01:31:40.000 Full disclosure.

01:31:41.000 A conference in the Middle East somewhere.

01:31:42.000 It was either the United Arab Emirates.

01:31:45.000 Were you able to find?

01:31:45.000 I wasn't able to find anything.

01:31:47.000 I saw it on Twitter.

01:31:48.000 Yeah.

01:31:48.000 It was like part of a speech thing he was giving.

01:31:50.000 Oh, by the way.

01:31:51.000 Because that would mean his time in state was a complete failure if that was the case.

01:31:57.000 He might as well be saying, hey, I'm about to do the worst job ever and you should probably fire me right now because...

01:32:04.000 You know, that's where a lot of American power comes from.

01:32:07.000 That would mean sanctions don't do anything. 0.99

01:32:09.000 A lot of American power derives around the dollar, the Global Reserve Council.

01:32:15.000 Sanctions, not tariffs.

01:32:16.000 Sanctions.

01:32:17.000 I'm sorry to interrupt you.

01:32:18.000 Sanctions won't work anymore in five years.

01:32:21.000 Rubio's upset that U.S. will no longer be able to oppose sanctions as they switch from the settlement in dollars to other national currencies.

01:32:26.000 And then, quote, in five years, we'll no longer be able to talk about sanctions.

01:32:29.000 This is the whole reason that I talk about mandatory spending.

01:32:32.000 The reason that the U.S. won't have the reserve currency anymore is too many countries will move to other things because they don't believe that the U.S. is going to remain solvent in the long term.

01:32:43.000 Because we have to fix Social Security and Medicare and Medicaid.

01:32:47.000 I can't remember which institution, but they're predicting in Trump's first term, Bitcoin hits 500,000.

01:32:53.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:32:56.000 I don't know whatever.

01:32:56.000 But there's a lot of speculation that what Donald Trump is doing...

01:33:01.000 In terms of tariffs and international trade, isn't so much about Trump's retribution.

01:33:05.000 It's about Trump rushing in to try and put out a fire that can't be stopped.

01:33:09.000 And there's concern that the movement away from the petrodollar, the BRICS nations, all these things, it's just a snowball rolling down a hill.

01:33:17.000 And Trump's coming in, he's trying to throw a rope around it, but ain't gonna do nothing.

01:33:22.000 I don't know.

01:33:22.000 The U.S. debt clock's pretty interesting.

01:33:24.000 They got a Doge clock on it now.

01:33:26.000 How much we're being saved?

01:33:27.000 Yeah, looks like we're accruing about $50,000 a second in debt.

01:33:31.000 And it was funny because Elon was like, I don't know how they figured this out, but it's pretty accurate.

01:33:35.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:33:37.000 And it looks like the Doge is saving us about the same amount the debt's going up.

01:33:43.000 I don't know if that means that the debt has been cut in half.

01:33:46.000 It's going up half as fast because I don't know if the Doge is like subtracted from the debt.

01:33:50.000 The Doge is how much has been saved, but the debt is still going up.

01:33:54.000 You kind of calculate it, $50,000 a second, roughly.

01:33:57.000 In the Doge clock, $40,000 a second.

01:33:59.000 If you take the Doge clock away, the actual national debt just goes up faster.

01:34:05.000 Does it?

01:34:05.000 Yeah, the national debt is going up that fast, even with Doge slowing the rate of it.

01:34:13.000 I wonder that because...

01:34:14.000 Two years ago, it was still going up $50,000 a second.

01:34:16.000 Like, the doge clock hasn't seemed to slow it down.

01:34:19.000 Yeah, but two years ago, the interest rate was different.

01:34:21.000 And two years ago, you had less money that was accruing interest.

01:34:25.000 So it might be...

01:34:26.000 So it's actually...

01:34:28.000 It's parabolic.

01:34:29.000 And not only does it go up all the time, but it goes up faster and faster and faster because you're adding not only money to it, but the interest rate.

01:34:36.000 Well, the interest rate varies, but you're adding money that's all accruing interest.

01:34:40.000 So as you add more money to the principal that you've borrowed, the interest rate continues to accelerate.

01:34:46.000 And the spending goes up, the budgets go up.

01:34:49.000 Yeah.

01:34:50.000 I couldn't tell.

01:34:51.000 I still can't tell.

01:34:52.000 What you're saying is interesting, though, that's the one idea.

01:34:55.000 Like, before that doge clock I put on, it was basically going up at the same speed.

01:34:58.000 A year ago, it was going up at 50k a second.

01:35:01.000 Same is better than faster.

01:35:03.000 Yeah.

01:35:04.000 So, I mean, if the doge clock is not interfering with the debt, that would mean that it's basically saving our debt.

01:35:13.000 And our debt's actually not going up right now.

01:35:16.000 No, no, our debt is going up.

01:35:17.000 Listen, like I was saying the other night, or like I say a lot, the things that Doge is cutting are all discretionary spending.

01:35:26.000 So it's a small portion of the annual expenditures by the federal government.

01:35:32.000 The thing that drives the debt, the really big driver of debt, is the mandatory spending, which is Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.

01:35:42.000 Those are the things that need to get fixed.

01:35:44.000 Those are the things that are going to make the United States insolvent.

01:35:46.000 Those are the things that are actually an existential threat to the United States.

01:35:50.000 You could cut all of the...

01:35:53.000 You could abolish the whole government and have zero discretionary spending, but you'd still have, as long as you had the administration of Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, you're still insolvent.

01:36:08.000 Do you know how much, what percent it is of our debt is that?

01:36:11.000 Is the Social Security?

01:36:12.000 Yeah.

01:36:12.000 It depends on if you're including.

01:36:14.000 It's like two-thirds.

01:36:15.000 Are you including discretionary spending or not?

01:36:17.000 Without discretionary spending.

01:36:19.000 Without discretionary, I think it's even bigger than that.

01:36:21.000 Because I think with non-discretionary spending.

01:36:23.000 Oh, I see.

01:36:24.000 Oh, wow.

01:36:25.000 It's huge.

01:36:26.000 And it's...

01:36:27.000 It continues to go up.

01:36:30.000 It doesn't get smaller because more people go on to Social Security every day.

01:36:35.000 The baby boomers are retiring. 1.00

01:36:37.000 So all these people are being added to the Social Security rules, Medicare and Medicaid rules.

01:36:43.000 And you have people that, you know, it's a smaller percentage, but people that have any kind of Social Security benefit, if they're injured and they can't work and they get government benefits, that all goes into the same thing.

01:36:52.000 That's all mandatory.

01:36:54.000 And to explain the difference between mandatory and non-mandatory, as I understand, mandatory...

01:36:58.000 Discretionary.

01:36:59.000 Discretionary or non-discretionary is...

01:37:00.000 Mandatory and discretionary.

01:37:02.000 Okay.

01:37:02.000 Well, mandatory is where it's written in law that they have to spend it on the specific things.

01:37:07.000 And the thing, too, about Social Security is that it's very difficult, near impossible to reform.

01:37:12.000 It's kind of the third rail of politics because everybody would vote against you if you chose to reform Social Security.

01:37:17.000 So that's part of the bubble that we are in and increasing in.

01:37:21.000 Which is true, but remember, the option is either fix Social Security, address it now, or there is no Social Security.

01:37:31.000 No, no, no.

01:37:31.000 The option is run against Social Security and lose your race, or run not against Social Security and have a chance of winning your race.

01:37:38.000 Because if you run against it, you're losing 95% of your races.

01:37:41.000 Then, in 10 years, the dollar explodes.

01:37:44.000 Then the entire economy goes away.

01:37:47.000 I don't disagree with you on that.

01:37:48.000 And so the point that I'm making is, yes, what you're talking about, Is practical for people that are running, but that's going to keep, as long as they keep kicking the can down the road, eventually this is going to destroy the U.S. economy.

01:38:01.000 And that means no Social Security.

01:38:03.000 So you either fix Social Security, like do something to change it and fix it, or...

01:38:09.000 It goes away entirely.

01:38:10.000 But the political realities of it is that running against Social Security will get you quickly lost.

01:38:16.000 You don't have to run against it to say you're going to fix it, but also on the Medicare-Medicaid front...

01:38:20.000 Wait, when you say you're going to fix it, though, you're really talking about cuts to Medicare when you're pushed on it.

01:38:25.000 No, no, but just for example, on Medicare-Medicaid...

01:38:28.000 I think Wall Street Journal reported that somewhere around 15% is just waste, fraud, and abuse.

01:38:35.000 So if you cut that out and people still get the same benefits and everything's more efficient, nobody's mad.

01:38:42.000 They're happy that you're cutting.

01:38:45.000 Bad money.

01:38:47.000 That's just going to insurers and stuff like that.

01:38:49.000 The problem is when you're running and talking about trying to fix Medicare, your opponent says they're going to cut your Medicare, they're going to kill your grandma, they're going to blah blah blah, because someone's going to be opportunists.

01:38:59.000 Fixes are cuts.

01:39:01.000 You'd only fix by taking away the wasteful spending, but I'm sure somebody's going to say one person's wasteful spending isn't...

01:39:07.000 No, but I think the best way you do that is you say we're not cutting Medicare.

01:39:10.000 All the money is going to stay in it, in the slush fund.

01:39:14.000 It's all surpluses, and then once you have a giant surplus, you can be like, hey, we got a giant surplus.

01:39:19.000 We're actually saving money, so it's not even a cut.

01:39:21.000 You're like, well, we can just...

01:39:25.000 Yeah, I mean, all of these programs obviously need reform, but the political realities on the ground is that the older you are, the more likely you are to vote.

01:39:33.000 And then the older you are, the more likely you are to be getting Social Security benefits.

01:39:37.000 So just the way that interests play out is that it's disastrous for your campaign.

01:39:41.000 You're throwing in the towel by running on that.

01:39:44.000 Even saying you're only going to fix it, people will tar and feather you as doing much worse.

01:39:48.000 Well, yeah, that's the thing your opponent's going to say.

01:39:50.000 I think whenever Rick Scott talks about it or whatever from Florida.

01:39:53.000 It's never, because he's one of the guys who's an elected officer.

01:39:56.000 Because a lot of these people run on it as, like, we have to cut this or else we're going to die.

01:40:02.000 Instead, run on, we need to fix this or else.

01:40:06.000 Not from the cut perspective.

01:40:08.000 Be like, all this money is being wasted and it's going to go insolvent.

01:40:12.000 We need to save the money and make it more efficient for the people who are receiving it.

01:40:17.000 So that this program can be there forever.

01:40:20.000 Hey, everybody wants to make things more efficient.

01:40:22.000 And that sounds nice in theory, but in practice, when you get down to it, we need major reforms.

01:40:28.000 We need to push the age up. 0.97

01:40:29.000 If we're actually going to fix this and not go off of some wasteful spending that they have, we need to push the age up to 70, obviously.

01:40:35.000 And we need to be more restrictive with the health care that the government gives out.

01:40:38.000 With the gutting of USAID, Schumer said, who knows?

01:40:41.000 It could be this institution.

01:40:42.000 He says it could be the IRS next.

01:40:44.000 Oh, no.

01:40:45.000 What if Trump just...

01:40:47.000 I was talking to Lisa Reynolds earlier and I was like, could you imagine if Trump just came out and did a press conference where he was very just like, you know, low energy as he sometimes is and says, well, quite frankly, the IRS is very bad and we're going to shut it down.

01:41:01.000 No more taxes on anybody.

01:41:03.000 And if you have a problem with that, you can vote for Democrats.

01:41:06.000 So your choices are keep all your money or give it to the government and vote Democrat.

01:41:10.000 Have fun.

01:41:10.000 And he just walks off out of the room.

01:41:12.000 It's a hypothetical that I bring up because I don't believe.

01:41:16.000 I believe 97% of the population would celebrate that.

01:41:21.000 Understanding that it means, like, government programs, funds, things would end, in the immediate, the average person would be like, so you mean I keep all of my paycheck now?

01:41:30.000 Yay! 0.99

01:41:31.000 And then it would only be until later, they're like, wait, where are my programs?

01:41:34.000 You know what I mean?

01:41:36.000 Well, the average person doesn't even pay federal income tax.

01:41:41.000 Like, it's like, wasn't it like half of them don't?

01:41:44.000 Yeah, it's the better one.

01:41:45.000 47% or something like that, yeah.

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01:42:13.000 It was a lot of fun.

01:42:13.000 We were all hanging out on the couch, and it was probably one of the better green rooms that we've done, because it was a lot of just, I don't know, bro humor, I guess.

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01:42:33.000 Manifestors, there's any chance you could shout out the Fort Bend County Young Republicans.

01:42:37.000 We're having a meeting for the upcoming State of the Union in Katy, Texas.

01:42:41.000 Is it Katy?

01:42:42.000 Yeah.

01:42:42.000 Very cool.

01:42:44.000 All right.

01:42:44.000 He also says, nine months.

01:42:46.000 Let's go.

01:42:47.000 Can't wait to see what Tim does, the future of this business.

01:42:49.000 Congratulations to Mr. and Mrs. Poole.

01:42:51.000 Let's effing go. 0.95

01:42:52.000 That is indeed correct.

01:42:54.000 Her name is Allison Poole.

01:42:55.000 Oh, nice.

01:42:56.000 That's right.

01:42:57.000 So I've been getting the door for her and saying Mrs. Poole. 0.93

01:43:00.000 It is very fun.

01:43:01.000 I recommend getting married.

01:43:03.000 you know you gotta find someone you wanna get married to Techie Plady says friends shout to Sir Rank Zero Productions He's on the web, plays video games, and cooks.

01:43:14.000 Good guy to friend.

01:43:15.000 Oh, very fun, very fun.

01:43:17.000 The Sleeper, as Awakened, says the Gaza Strip, once rebuilt and modernized, would make the perfect place to move the United Nations. 0.97

01:43:25.000 Trump says he wants to make it like the Riviera.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, he wanted like a global community there.

01:43:31.000 It's a real vague, like, what the hell is he even doing?

01:43:34.000 When Ian brought up...

01:43:36.000 The U.S. seizing Gaza as the 51st state, we all laughed and said that would instantly start World War III. And then Trump just went out and said it.

01:43:44.000 It's been amazing how expansionist the mindset of Trump has been once he took office.

01:43:49.000 He really started talking about the Panama Canal, Greenland, Gaza.

01:43:53.000 I'm excited every day to see the next thing we might add to the list of potential U.S. territories.

01:43:58.000 I forgot Canada.

01:43:59.000 It was even an afterthought.

01:44:01.000 Jason Dixon says, Tim, ever since the FBI got purged, my online girlfriend stopped responding to me.

01:44:06.000 Oh, man.

01:44:07.000 Sorry to hear.

01:44:08.000 I wonder if those things are related.

01:44:11.000 Yeah.

01:44:13.000 All right.

01:44:14.000 What do we got here?

01:44:15.000 Jason Dixon says, got a guest consideration for you.

01:44:17.000 Join the TimCast.com Discord community network, Roma Nation.

01:44:20.000 Have you ever considered having someone from the community on as a guest?

01:44:23.000 Roma lives close to you.

01:44:25.000 We did.

01:44:25.000 We're working on it.

01:44:27.000 I don't know if I should spill the beans just yet.

01:44:30.000 But we're working on—so let me just say this.

01:44:33.000 The Culture War podcast has never been completed.

01:44:36.000 We had plans for what the Culture War show was supposed to be, and the Friday morning live streams are placeholders until we build out the real plan.

01:44:44.000 And so let me just give you a general idea.

01:44:47.000 You know, I'm going to say it, and everyone's going to get mad at me, because this is how it works.

01:44:50.000 You know, Trump is much the same way.

01:44:51.000 He's like, oh, my team's going to get mad at me.

01:44:53.000 I'm going to say it, but I'm going to tell you guys what we're doing anyway, and then the people behind these things are like, Trump, we're not ready.

01:44:58.000 Here's the idea.

01:45:00.000 If you're a member of TimCast.com and you're in the Discord, we are going to be having members-only events, and those events are going to be on whatever day we can do them.

01:45:11.000 Probably a weekend, sometimes Friday morning, maybe Saturday or Sunday night, in-person, live political debate shows, The Culture War, where our members join the debates.

01:45:24.000 The audience will only be our members.

01:45:27.000 So here's the idea.

01:45:29.000 We get a venue.

01:45:31.000 We are set up at a table doing the show.

01:45:34.000 We have a bit of the debate.

01:45:35.000 And then we're going to invite people for a few minutes at a time to get in their debate at the same time for a decent amount of time.

01:45:43.000 And so if you're a member, you can sit in the live audience.

01:45:47.000 And if someone shows up and they're like, I really want to come because we really want liberals to show up, become a member.

01:45:53.000 It's a members only thing.

01:45:54.000 And then those shows will be basically our members debating whoever shows up.

01:46:00.000 So we'd have, like, let's say it's the fours at the table, and then you guys know, like, are Nuance Bros going to be there?

01:46:06.000 Do that guy so wrong about Israel and Palestine?

01:46:07.000 I want to debate him.

01:46:09.000 You show up, you submit, and then we have members actually join the debates with us for, like, 10-minute stints.

01:46:15.000 So it's going to be really fun.

01:46:17.000 Yeah.

01:46:18.000 I love it.

01:46:19.000 That's the plan, man.

01:46:21.000 That's the plan.

01:46:22.000 But we'll see how it works out.

01:46:24.000 We got restrictions and limitations on how it could function, and you know.

01:46:27.000 All right, let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:46:31.000 What have we here?

01:46:33.000 Megaglave says, isn't government funding any news organization a violation of the First Amendment freedom of the press?

01:46:38.000 No.

01:46:40.000 There's appropriations from Congress for public news.

01:46:44.000 So basically NPR and PBS, they don't get money directly from Congress.

01:46:48.000 Congress funds some other organization, which then disperses things to local news and radio stations.

01:46:55.000 I'm not a big fan of it.

01:46:56.000 There's also Voice of America, though, and Carrie Lake is there now, so everyone's super excited for that, right?

01:47:01.000 Did she start there yet?

01:47:02.000 I don't know.

01:47:03.000 I think she started in a different news organization.

01:47:07.000 Almost made her way into office a few times, but hey.

01:47:12.000 All right.

01:47:13.000 Axa Filioma says, Hey Tim, one of my best friends was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer in three organs at age 35. He has two kids and wants to fight.

01:47:21.000 I want to help.

01:47:22.000 I really appreciate a shout out for GiveSendGo at Cure4Kirk.

01:47:26.000 Sorry to hear it, man.

01:47:28.000 Hope that helps.

01:47:29.000 Hope that works out for you.

01:47:29.000 And I appreciate using GiveSendGo.

01:47:32.000 I think I met one of the executives at GiveSendGo recently and he was like, thank you so much for...

01:47:36.000 Shouting us out and criticizing GoFundMe.

01:47:38.000 Oh, awesome.

01:47:38.000 But it's not on purpose.

01:47:40.000 It's not because, you know, we're trying to make you better.

01:47:42.000 It's because GoFundMe literally censored and shut down people who had wrong think.

01:47:47.000 And give, send, go is the safe place to raise money.

01:47:50.000 That's just that.

01:47:52.000 You go on GoFundMe, maybe they ban you.

01:47:54.000 Not fun.

01:47:56.000 Cody Johnson says, hey, Phil, the new album is awesome.

01:47:58.000 It's like going back to 14 and discovering women. 0.63

01:48:00.000 I'm obsessed with kerosene.

01:48:02.000 Thank you very much, man.

01:48:03.000 I appreciate that.

01:48:04.000 Cheers.

01:48:05.000 That's one way to describe it.

01:48:06.000 Right?

01:48:07.000 All right.

01:48:08.000 J. Joan Clark says, Tim, every time you talk about Israel and Gaza, nobody ever talks about the 1990s discovery of mass oil deposits off the shore of Gaza, also the mass deposits of natural gas underneath the Gaza Strip.

01:48:19.000 Thoughts?

01:48:19.000 Is that true?

01:48:19.000 Very interesting.

01:48:20.000 Yeah.

01:48:20.000 There are gas fields on the coast by the Gaza Strip there.

01:48:26.000 They also discovered huge oil off the coast of Malaysia before the Vietnam War.

01:48:34.000 There's a lot of areas in the Mediterranean Sea, as I understand, that have a lot of different oil reserves, too.

01:48:40.000 I don't know if we're ever running out of that good stuff.

01:48:44.000 Oil?

01:48:45.000 Oil, yeah.

01:48:46.000 Well, to be honest, once we invade Canada, we're going to increase our supply quite substantially.

01:48:51.000 Lately, I've heard...

01:48:53.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:48:53.000 That the earth makes it?

01:48:54.000 That it's just constantly crushing carbon into oil?

01:48:57.000 So it's like replenishing?

01:48:59.000 Well, not at the rate, not close to the rate that we use it, but I think there's a surplus.

01:49:03.000 And then it's also about how economically viable it is to access that oil.

01:49:08.000 Right.

01:49:08.000 Some of it's really, really, really deep from tectonic shift.

01:49:11.000 I just want to stress, we have never gotten more death threats.

01:49:16.000 In my career, I have never gotten more death threats.

01:49:19.000 And the Timcast organization, as a company, has never gotten more death threats since I posted jokingly that we were going to invade Canada.

01:49:30.000 Wow.

01:49:31.000 It sounds like a precursor as to why we need to invade them now.

01:49:35.000 Well, they're engaged in an online harassment campaign, and we can't stand for it.

01:49:41.000 Americans will not be intimidated by violent threats from Canadians.

01:49:45.000 Trump does the tariffs.

01:49:47.000 They're never going to affect.

01:49:47.000 And then I tweeted, as soon as their economy is destroyed, their will to resist will erode and then will march in and put them in their rightful places of U.S. territory with no political representation.

01:49:57.000 And we just got...

01:49:59.000 Inundated with insane death threats.

01:50:02.000 They got that American spirit, man.

01:50:03.000 Defend their territory with their life.

01:50:05.000 They're just a very, very vocal minority.

01:50:07.000 Most of the Canadians will welcome us as liberators.

01:50:11.000 It's funny because so much of Canadian nationalism is centered around being anti-American, and most of the time us Americans forget Canada is even there.

01:50:20.000 For example, when I was talking about territories we were going to take over, Canada is an afterthought.

01:50:24.000 So, they're old news.

01:50:25.000 There's no reason to take over Canada because Canada exists because of the United States.

01:50:30.000 It would be nice to have a few more states.

01:50:32.000 And they speak French.

01:50:33.000 Well, not Quebec or British Columbia.

01:50:35.000 We wouldn't take them!

01:50:36.000 The Quebecers would actually fight back.

01:50:39.000 I think if we were to invade Canada and we went to Quebec and said, here's the plan.

01:50:44.000 Side with us and you will be an independent nation.

01:50:47.000 They'd be like, deal.

01:50:48.000 We could use them as a Trojan horse. 0.97

01:50:50.000 It'd be like a reverse of the revolution.

01:50:52.000 We'll be with the Lafayette.

01:50:54.000 Yeah.

01:50:55.000 Like, encourage Quebec independence.

01:50:57.000 That's how we take over the rest of Canada. 0.69

01:50:59.000 Some PSYOPs.

01:51:00.000 CIA, you could take that one.

01:51:02.000 When was the last time they actually tried to get independence?

01:51:05.000 I think every, like, 20 years they have a vote or something.

01:51:09.000 They're like, we are French!

01:51:11.000 I thought the vote was in the past, like, 10 years or so.

01:51:14.000 I'm not sure.

01:51:16.000 And it's funny because so many Canadian politicians have to virtue signal to the Quebecers in French.

01:51:21.000 And that's why all the bigwig politicians have to learn French.

01:51:25.000 That's why Pierre Polyev, the supposed conservative future leader of Canada, speaks French.

01:51:30.000 His name's Pierre.

01:51:33.000 It's a super French name.

01:51:35.000 The last time they voted was 95. Not too long.

01:51:37.000 30 years.

01:51:39.000 Oh, wow.

01:51:40.000 Narrow margin.

01:51:41.000 50.6% to 49.4% to remain.

01:51:46.000 Wow.

01:51:47.000 And because of this, though, Canada heavily subsidizes Quebec.

01:51:50.000 That's what the game is in Canada.

01:51:52.000 To keep them happy, they get special benefits in Quebec, as I understand.

01:51:57.000 We might need to bring a Canadian on to break it down further. 0.96

01:52:00.000 If we go in through Saskatchewan and the more red areas in the center, they'll side with us, and then all we have to do is sweep outward towards the coasts and crush the resistance.

01:52:12.000 I think that would be an interesting culture war to have a Quebec... 0.99

01:52:15.000 National, or whatever you would call them, that wants independence.

01:52:18.000 Oh, dude, no, I got it.

01:52:19.000 And a regular Canadian that doesn't. 0.90

01:52:21.000 It's a good idea, but I made it better.

01:52:23.000 We gotta bring on some Canadian political commentators and do a D&D-style war game of the U.S. invading Canada.

01:52:31.000 And we'll, like, roll, and, you know, you'll be Trudeau, and you'll be Pierre.

01:52:36.000 I love Pierre Puglia.

01:52:37.000 And then, you know, Elad will be Bolton.

01:52:42.000 We need to deport all these Canadian-American political commentators. 1.00

01:52:46.000 Stephen Crowder, Lauren Chen.

01:52:50.000 Who's the...

01:52:51.000 There's another girl.

01:52:52.000 Some white blonde girl. 1.00

01:52:53.000 Lauren Southern?

01:52:54.000 Lauren Southern doesn't live here. 0.99

01:52:56.000 Yeah, she's in Canada. 0.77

01:52:56.000 She wasn't Canadian? 0.77

01:52:58.000 She'll be American soon.

01:52:59.000 Alright, doesn't make her American for living here. 0.94

01:53:01.000 You can't deport someone who's in Canada.

01:53:03.000 Oh, she's in Canada is what you're saying.

01:53:05.000 Okay.

01:53:06.000 Deported to Quebec.

01:53:07.000 Viva Frye! 0.99

01:53:08.000 Viva, we're coming for you!

01:53:10.000 There's a lot of Canadians who pretend they're American too.

01:53:14.000 JP, another Canadian.

01:53:16.000 No, they're deeply ingrained in our society, but nobody ever accuses them of dual loyalty.

01:53:20.000 Ted Cruz, I believe, was also a Canadian who was a citizen while in Congress.

01:53:26.000 Is there a Canadian blood libel?

01:53:28.000 No, for some reason.

01:53:30.000 Nor is there an Irish one.

01:53:32.000 What's the biggest Canadian lobbying organization that it's...

01:53:36.000 I feel like there is.

01:53:37.000 I feel like Canada benefits...

01:53:38.000 They spend like a hundred million on like three candidates.

01:53:40.000 There is unequal treaties between us and Canada and Trump is trying to equal the trade relationship.

01:53:45.000 Totally.

01:53:45.000 What does APEC stand for?

01:53:47.000 America-Israel Political Action Committee.

01:53:50.000 No, it's Public Affairs Committee.

01:53:52.000 Oh, so it's ACPAC. Viva Frye is not an American citizen yet.

01:53:56.000 So all these Canadians in American politics, we send them back, and then from the inside, they encourage pro-America sentiment. 0.99

01:54:05.000 Viva! 1.00

01:54:06.000 We have a mission, if you choose to accept it.

01:54:09.000 We're sending you in.

01:54:11.000 Viva! 1.00

01:54:12.000 Nah, they'd lock him up right away, because they know he's a dissenter.

01:54:16.000 I think Trudeau's on his way out.

01:54:17.000 What's up with that?

01:54:18.000 That's official?

01:54:19.000 He said he was quitting, and then, what, Pierre's gonna come in?

01:54:22.000 I haven't been keeping up, and we don't care about...

01:54:25.000 Well, they're gonna have elections.

01:54:26.000 I guess he's just not, like, running again.

01:54:30.000 Okay.

01:54:30.000 You know, he was awfully quiet during the threats from Trump with tariffs and whatnot.

01:54:35.000 You didn't hear a word out of that guy.

01:54:36.000 Funny how that works.

01:54:37.000 He was masterful.

01:54:38.000 Trump was so masterful on Trump's part that he threatened tariffs and then immediately got both countries to establish border patrols.

01:54:44.000 It was a masterful response from Pierre to stay out of the way.

01:54:49.000 All right, let's grab some of what we got.

01:54:51.000 got we got common sense fishing says nuance bro say a company like politico makes 50 million a year the government pays it 1 million a year but its profit margins may be slim profits may only be a few percent if they lose that percent they go in the red right that's that i would say that's Like, 2% of your annual revenue is substantial.

01:55:11.000 Yeah.

01:55:12.000 I don't know.

01:55:12.000 Because especially if...

01:55:14.000 Like, that's a really great point.

01:55:16.000 If...

01:55:17.000 You know, whatever the revenue may be, even $200 million, and it's 1%, so we're looking at, you know, half a percent.

01:55:25.000 That's still a lot of money for a single person.

01:55:28.000 That extra million that comes in might go to a handful of people.

01:55:31.000 I don't want to single out Politico in this regard, but people might be very unhappy to lose a million dollars, you know?

01:55:39.000 There's a car dealership not too far from here, and I was talking to one of the managers, and they said they do a million bucks a month.

01:55:47.000 You go to the average leftist, communist, and say, did you know that car dealership is making a million bucks a month?

01:55:51.000 And go, that's wrong, man.

01:55:52.000 Why are they making so much money?

01:55:54.000 And then if you talk to any conservative or libertarian, they're going to be like, right, and what's their profit margin?

01:55:59.000 They're probably at like 5% or some really small number in profit.

01:56:04.000 And so the owner has to own, you know, 10 different dealerships to actually make himself particularly wealthy.

01:56:11.000 And so they don't understand that.

01:56:13.000 So if you go to a car dealership...

01:56:15.000 And someone's giving a kickback of, you know, the government's buying a $10,000 premium, you know, detailing package for their vehicles when it normally costs $100.

01:56:23.000 You might say, yeah, but it's only $50,000 a month out of their, you know, million dollars of revenue.

01:56:28.000 That's tiny.

01:56:29.000 And it's like, yes, and that's $500,000, $600,000 a year into the pocket of the guy who runs it.

01:56:35.000 It's a kickback.

01:56:37.000 All right, let's see what we got.

01:56:40.000 We'll grab a Super Chat here.

01:56:42.000 Neil Williams says the millennials that were impacted by 9-11 are finally seeing their first win in this administration.

01:56:48.000 No one is talking about this.

01:56:49.000 Yeah, that's got to be a big deal.

01:56:51.000 It's a big deal for me.

01:56:51.000 I'm Gen X. All the Ron Paul people from that era are cheering.

01:56:58.000 Ron Paul is cheering.

01:57:00.000 Yeah, the gutting of USAID, the FBI, and the CIA. Everyone I know from that time, all the arguments they were making, Trump is steamrolling this.

01:57:10.000 It's amazing.

01:57:11.000 That's why I said that Trump's the most libertarian president that we've had since Calvin Coolidge, possibly the most libertarian since, like, the founders.

01:57:19.000 How do they allow him to continue?

01:57:22.000 That's why I said it was Trump's march to the sea.

01:57:24.000 Because I'm looking at it like, the resistance is over.

01:57:28.000 I mean, there were people, I don't want to say they, but there were people who literally tried to kill Trump before he won.

01:57:33.000 They tried to put him in prison.

01:57:34.000 It didn't work.

01:57:35.000 The insurrection stuff, it didn't work.

01:57:37.000 Trump wins, and now he's just marching to the sea, scorched earth over the deep state.

01:57:42.000 Is that it?

01:57:43.000 When you say, like, how are they going to allow him to continue?

01:57:48.000 If they is gone.

01:57:49.000 No.

01:57:50.000 Because he gets rid of them.

01:57:51.000 John Wilkes Booth, though Lincoln was able to continue, Lincoln still didn't make it in the end.

01:57:58.000 My concern is for Trump's safety because of the actions that he's taking are so heavy-handed.

01:58:03.000 Yeah, I think about that a lot.

01:58:06.000 The age of security is upon us.

01:58:08.000 Just be cool, do what's right.

01:58:11.000 I hope that he's got, you know, he has people that are competent in charge of the Secret Service now.

01:58:20.000 It would make perfect sense for him to be like, we need to get, you know, all the people that were...

01:58:26.000 In the Secret Service and get them out or get a significant portion of them out and make sure that we get the most competent people that are available.

01:58:35.000 Or at least on his personal detail.

01:58:37.000 Maybe he got people that were new or had not been in the Secret Service for a long time when they were taking care of the situation in Pennsylvania.

01:58:53.000 Now, I would imagine that it's something at the top of his mind.

01:58:56.000 Did you see his recent comments about assassination where he said, you know, he's like, well, if Iran goes for it, I have instructions that I've left.

01:59:04.000 And I'm like, dude, you're sending a message to Mossad to like, I'm sorry.

01:59:09.000 You have to be careful about that.

01:59:11.000 That's scary.

01:59:12.000 The way Netanyahu was grimacing when he said he was going to invade Gaza.

01:59:17.000 Yeah.

01:59:18.000 Take it.

01:59:18.000 And he's like, yeah.

01:59:21.000 All right, everybody.

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02:00:05.000 You want to sign up to be a member right now, you will not regret it, but I can't say more.

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02:00:35.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

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02:00:39.000 Nuance Bro, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:41.000 Yeah, you can follow me on X at Nuance Bro.

02:00:44.000 That's primarily where I shitpost.

02:00:47.000 Nice. 0.98

02:00:48.000 Nuance, bro.

02:00:49.000 It's been very chill.

02:00:50.000 We usually do.

02:00:51.000 We've done Spaces a lot in the past, so it's nice to have another chat with Nuance, bro, because we haven't done one of those in a while.

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02:00:57.000 I'm a field correspondent here at TimCast.

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02:01:02.000 Ian?

02:01:02.000 Yeah, next time you guys do a Space, let me know.

02:01:04.000 I'd love to jump in.

02:01:05.000 That'd be pretty fun.

02:01:06.000 Does Elon even still...

02:01:07.000 Are Spaces still a thing?

02:01:08.000 Is the functionality still there?

02:01:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:01:10.000 People do them all the time.

02:01:11.000 I just did one, actually, a couple days ago, a few days ago.

02:01:13.000 So follow me on X. I've become very active on there since the news has been changing and so many...

02:01:17.000 Things happen.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 06, 2025

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