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00:02:27.000 The video has been released, my friends.

00:02:29.000 That judge that helped that criminal alien escape, yeah, they got the video footage and it's been publicly released, which is surprising considering there's a criminal case going on.

00:02:38.000 But I don't know how she's actually going to argue she's not guilty because she's on camera sneaking out a criminal alien.

00:02:44.000 And so while it's one thing when the government issues a criminal charge, you get a grand jury indictment, we say, you know, innocent until proven guilty unless you have video footage of it that, well— So we'll talk about that.

00:03:01.000 There's a lot of news this week, and my friends, I was not here.

00:03:03.000 I was not here.

00:03:04.000 So if it's not new to you, it is new to me.

00:03:07.000 We'll talk about whatever.

00:03:09.000 We've got that.

00:03:09.000 We've got news about AI stuff.

00:03:11.000 We have James O 'Keefe is joining us to talk about what's going on with him.

00:03:16.000 I'll leave it to you, James, to say exactly what's going on because I don't want to speak out of turn.

00:03:20.000 And so we'll talk about that plus a bunch of other stories, I guess.

00:03:24.000 It's kind of a slow news week.

00:03:25.000 I know that there was the increase in far-left terror that we've been looking at.

00:03:29.000 There was the assassination of those embassy workers.

00:03:31.000 So pretty scary stuff.

00:03:32.000 But we'll just get into what we got right before this Memorial Weekend kicks off.

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00:03:39.000 That's what we say now, right?

00:03:41.000 Enjoy your three-day weekend?

00:03:42.000 I thought we said respect the brave and, you know.

00:03:46.000 Oh.

00:03:47.000 I was following Kamala.

00:03:48.000 Oh, okay.

00:03:49.000 I wasn't doing that.

00:03:50.000 No?

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00:06:03.000 And we've got a couple of guests joining us.

00:06:04.000 I already mentioned James is here, but we do have another individual joining us to hang out.

00:06:07.000 We've got Damani Felder.

00:06:08.000 Tim, thanks for having me.

00:06:09.000 It's good to be here.

00:06:10.000 Who are you?

00:06:10.000 What do you do?

00:06:11.000 So I'm a digital content creator from the North Houston area.

00:06:14.000 I started lending my voice to the political space almost 10 years ago now.

00:06:17.000 I started to realize the seismic shift taking place in polite society, and I realized that I had an opportunity to actually lend my voice to the cause and do some good in the world.

00:06:25.000 So I started, had no idea where to start, but I've been able to build up myself on several platforms, the Damani Felder on X, the Damani Felder on TikTok, Damani Bryant Felder on Facebook, and on YouTube.

00:06:35.000 I have a small presence as well, but I'm just here.

00:06:37.000 I'm a pursuer of truth.

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00:06:41.000 Right on.

00:06:41.000 And of course, the man himself, James O 'Keefe.

00:06:44.000 Hello, Tim.

00:06:44.000 Thanks for coming, man.

00:06:45.000 Great to be here.

00:06:47.000 I've got a lot to say, mostly about the events of Epstein and Project Veritas and releasing this film about what happened inside Veritas.

00:06:54.000 Yeah, man.

00:06:55.000 You've been putting out these videos from inside the buildings at Epstein Island.

00:07:00.000 This is the first time anyone's seen any of this stuff.

00:07:02.000 That's correct.

00:07:02.000 Ooh, it's getting crazy.

00:07:04.000 Getting crazy.

00:07:04.000 Well, we do what we definitely got to talk about.

00:07:06.000 It's gone as Veritas stuff, because I don't know how much you can say just yet, but you put out a video where the Veritas logo was behind you.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, I want to dive into all that on your show.

00:07:15.000 All right, we will, we will.

00:07:16.000 And Libby's hanging out.

00:07:17.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:07:18.000 I'm here hanging out.

00:07:19.000 Glad to be here with you guys.

00:07:20.000 We'll just get started with some light news before we get into the heavy stuff, I suppose.

00:07:23.000 We have this story from the New York Post which I found particularly interesting.

00:07:26.000 Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan seen sneaking a legal migrant out of court.

00:07:30.000 After distracting ICE agents, new video shows.

00:07:33.000 So, this video, contentious I suppose.

00:07:37.000 Democrats are arguing that Trump's going after his political opponents, but here you go.

00:07:42.000 Here's just, you know, you can watch.

00:07:44.000 Despite having been advised of the administrative warrant for the arrest of Flores Ruiz, Judge Dugan escorted Flores Ruiz and his counsel out of the, quote, jury door not open to the public.

00:07:55.000 In the video, it appears one federal agent hangs back in the hallway and followed Flores Ruiz onto an elevator.

00:08:02.000 Whoa.

00:08:04.000 And then they pursued him.

00:08:05.000 And he ran off.

00:08:07.000 So, I don't know, I thought this was interesting because now we're officially in the, we know for a fact she did it territory.

00:08:12.000 Allegations at this point are now facts, I suppose.

00:08:16.000 She was indicted by a federal grand jury.

00:08:18.000 True, and that's why I'm saying I think the video is more important because an indictment is a, hey guys, you know, innocent until proven guilty.

00:08:24.000 I think video puts it beyond a reasonable doubt as far as I'm concerned, and we see her actually doing it.

00:08:29.000 Her argument is she's immune from prosecution.

00:08:31.000 Yeah, that's not true when you break the law.

00:08:33.000 I don't think you're immune from prosecution when you're a judge who's – now what's amazing about this too is he was in court on domestic violence charges and the victims, you know –

00:09:02.000 What's going on in this country right now?

00:09:05.000 Right?

00:09:05.000 So with stories like this, the lawlessness has reached the highest levels of...

00:09:14.000 This is just another example of the lawlessness.

00:09:17.000 James, you were targeted by the Biden DOJ.

00:09:20.000 And then what happens?

00:09:22.000 I think you won in the end, or how did that work?

00:09:24.000 Since I was on your show last, the FBI dropped the case in February, March or so.

00:09:29.000 They gave me back my phones, but they released the affidavit, the probable cause.

00:09:33.000 That was when you get a search warrant, you have to release the probable cause.

00:09:37.000 They redacted every single word.

00:09:39.000 Every single word of the probable cause.

00:09:42.000 It's a big black line.

00:09:44.000 So, you know, I think what's happening is institutions have become systemically corrupt, systemically corrupt at all levels, and people say, oh, you know, call Cash, call Pam.

00:09:58.000 Like, I'm supposed to call the number one person at the top of the entire pyramid to have any semblance of justice.

00:10:05.000 That's how you know the system's really broken.

00:10:08.000 When everyone's solution is to do that.

00:10:09.000 And I think people need to understand that even if Cash, Pam, or Dan are at the top, they're still looking down at this entire field of corruption.

00:10:18.000 Of bureaucracy and corruption.

00:10:19.000 Absolutely.

00:10:20.000 And so the corruption's entrenched and will utilize the bureaucracy to make sure that they don't have to move.

00:10:26.000 Correct.

00:10:26.000 And even if you're an incredibly ethical and moral leader, you can't be on top of that entrenched bureaucracy and corruption.

00:10:35.000 But this is great because you have her on video.

00:10:38.000 This is what we talk about at O'Keefe Media Group, incontroverbal evidence.

00:10:43.000 It's not circumstantial evidence or hearsay, but she's actually on video doing it.

00:10:46.000 Right.

00:10:47.000 So I was obviously out for the past few days, but I was still following the news, of course.

00:10:52.000 And then I'm riding in a car when I hear about these Israeli staffers who were shot and killed.

00:10:56.000 And the story that's since come out with the details is substantially worse than the initial reporting, right?

00:11:03.000 As the young woman is crawling away to try and escape, he's shooting her.

00:11:06.000 Then he reloads while screaming.

00:11:08.000 He reloads and keeps shooting her. 0.75

00:11:10.000 Yeah.

00:11:11.000 And, you know, to me it feels like, you know, Jesse Waters called it Summer of Love 2.0 already because of the amount of violence we've already had.

00:11:19.000 It's not even summer yet.

00:11:20.000 And we've had, with the Tesla firebombs, we had, to be fair, the assassination was last year.

00:11:28.000 But still, since Trump got re-elected, we've had street violence, protests, Tesla attacks.

00:11:37.000 We've got now these two assassinations.

00:11:41.000 We have members of the judiciary violating the law.

00:11:47.000 If these institutions are systemically corrupt, what happens in the next 10 years?

00:11:52.000 Well, this is the Democrat playbook, really, when you stop and think about it.

00:11:55.000 They always say no one is above the law until they're not.

00:11:58.000 Until it's them?

00:11:59.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:00.000 Until it's them.

00:12:00.000 And this is the Democrat playbook now.

00:12:03.000 They are going to literally use the textbook definition of terrorism, which is the unlawful use of violence to intimidate or harass, typically for political gain.

00:12:11.000 That's what they're doing.

00:12:12.000 It's very easy to see, but it's ridiculous the hoops that they jump through to try to justify their behavior.

00:12:17.000 And they will go to bat for these individuals.

00:12:19.000 They went to bat for Luigi Mangione.

00:12:21.000 They go to bat for so many of the worst in their own side and then wonder why they begin to start hemorrhaging that public support.

00:12:29.000 Well, for now, I mean, it feels like, you know, just for people who are wondering where I was that few days, I was actually in L.A. hanging out with Bill Maher.

00:12:38.000 Actually just hanging out for a couple hours.

00:12:40.000 Flew out.

00:12:41.000 It's nuts flying to L.A. So it's like it's one whole day to get there because you lose hours.

00:12:47.000 I land.

00:12:47.000 I go to bed.

00:12:48.000 Then I wake up and we get ready, you know.

00:12:50.000 I basically just do nothing for a few hours, get ready, and then in the evening we do the show, and then I immediately fly back and take a whole other day.

00:12:56.000 But, you know, talking with him about these things, the one thing that he agreed with me, and I guess the episode's coming out on the weekend, I don't know when, is that the only, you know, I've said this quite a bit, what makes you left or right is not what policies you want, but what you believe is true, to which he agreed.

00:13:11.000 And he obviously thinks things that are not true, in my opinion, and I told him that.

00:13:15.000 And, you know, it was all right.

00:13:17.000 It was cool.

00:13:17.000 It wasn't super contentious.

00:13:29.000 You've got, you know, James, you are the example I use when it comes to media like Wikipedia in fabricating reality to attack someone on ideological grounds.

00:13:40.000 And in 10 years, the boomers who are more chill and like, we don't want to fight. 0.90

00:13:46.000 And they're largely the people who have the view like, ah, no one wants to fight.

00:13:50.000 There's not going to be any conflicts.

00:13:51.000 The younger generations are like Hassan, watching Hassan Piker, who gets as close as you can to calls for violence without directly telling people to do it.

00:14:00.000 And now we can see what happens when that culture and that rhetoric expands.

00:14:06.000 Is it going to stop?

00:14:08.000 Well, we did have in 2020.

00:14:11.000 There wasn't that much gun violence.

00:14:13.000 There were two teenagers shot in the autonomous zone.

00:14:15.000 There was Aaron Danielson shot in Seattle by the Antifa guy, Michael Reinold.

00:14:21.000 There was another gentleman who actually shot himself.

00:14:24.000 There was David Dorn who was killed.

00:14:27.000 There were 31 people killed altogether in violence that summer.

00:14:30.000 But we didn't see, other than Aaron Danielson, we didn't see like direct execution style shooting, I think.

00:14:39.000 So that is a new development in the leftist playbook.

00:14:44.000 I think they're only going to get more and more bold.

00:14:46.000 They're grasping at straws for something to rally around.

00:14:49.000 They desperately need some sort of martyr to coalesce their base around.

00:14:53.000 They had George Floyd in 2020, and they've had other individuals in the most recent years.

00:14:57.000 But now it seems they're in an identity crisis mode.

00:15:00.000 They need to find something to hang their hat on and do it quickly.

00:15:03.000 Do you think it's going to be this Palestinian thing?

00:15:05.000 It very well might be.

00:15:07.000 It depends on how long it plays out because obviously we know that attention spans are not what they used to be.

00:15:11.000 So who knows if what we're talking about today will be what happens tomorrow.

00:15:13.000 They're cheering for it and calling for more.

00:15:15.000 There's already several prominent thought leaders, whatever you want to call them, on the left who are saying that they're happy with what happened and people should expect more.

00:15:25.000 And they're saying as much as they can without telling someone to go and do it.

00:15:31.000 So if the attitude is largely of these prominent individuals, ha ha, you see what you get.

00:15:37.000 Same thing they said after October 7th.

00:15:39.000 And again, I don't care about – the U.S. should not be involved in whatever it is that Israel is involved in. 0.86

00:15:44.000 I don't care about that.

00:15:45.000 But people have lost their minds over this issue.

00:15:47.000 If right now the left is clapping and cheering and celebrating this, and they are.

00:15:51.000 Not literally everybody.

00:15:52.000 There's going to be a bunch of liberals and moderates who are like, we don't want anything to do with this.

00:15:55.000 But the principal youth left, the progressives, they're happy about it.

00:16:00.000 Well, and you had the New York Times come out with an article saying pro-Palestinian movement faces an uncertain path after D.C. attack.

00:16:06.000 Wow!

00:16:07.000 Like, that's their takeaway.

00:16:08.000 That's what the New York Times is worried about.

00:16:11.000 They're worried about the success of this movement after that.

00:16:13.000 And you have another part of this movement, Unity of Fields, posted on X. And they're one of the groups that is involved with the campus protests, from what I understand.

00:16:22.000 And they said the people actually paying the price are Palestinians facing genocide, etc., etc.

00:16:27.000 Elias Rodriguez is now a political prisoner.

00:16:29.000 And the people defending him the hardest, like us, are also facing repression.

00:16:33.000 He literally went out into the street and executed people, one of whom is an American girl from Kansas, And it's in service to what a dispute in a foreign nation about borders?

00:16:45.000 Like, what does that have to do with anything?

00:16:48.000 And now we have the Intifada globalized on the streets of our nation's capital.

00:16:51.000 That has got to come to an end.

00:16:53.000 We can't have that.

00:16:55.000 So, look, the big issue, I suppose, culturally, the narrative that's come out is Hassan Piker is to blame for this.

00:17:03.000 He's one of the most prominent leftist streamers, if not the most prominent.

00:17:08.000 You had on CNN the guy from ADL saying don't platform people like him.

00:17:13.000 You've had other people now surfacing clips from Hassan where he's saying as much as you can without telling people to actually do it.

00:17:21.000 He's not going anywhere.

00:17:23.000 He's going to keep saying what he wants to say, and I don't mean to single him out, but a lot of people on the left are – there was one guy I guess that Hassan was doing a show with and they were debating.

00:17:32.000 I'm not going to say his name.

00:17:33.000 But he put out tweets saying, He said something like, the only reason they keep doing this is because you let them, and then he followed up with, it's easy to buy a gun in the United States.

00:17:44.000 Right.

00:17:45.000 That rhetoric is not going to stop.

00:17:47.000 There are people who constantly say to me, oh, it's normal, who cares, nothing's going to happen.

00:17:50.000 And I'm like, just tell me why anybody backs off.

00:17:53.000 If they're celebrating this and cheering for it and calling for more, why would it stop?

00:17:59.000 Yeah, I don't see how it would.

00:18:00.000 Elias Rodriguez apparently declared that he had a gun in his...

00:18:13.000 He bought a ticket to the event, I think.

00:18:14.000 Wow.

00:18:15.000 Yeah.

00:18:16.000 There's just no fear of repercussions anymore.

00:18:18.000 There's no fear of repercussions on their side.

00:18:20.000 And we know what the intent is, but they will march right up to that line.

00:18:24.000 James, I know you've seen this happen plenty of times yourself.

00:18:26.000 They will get as close as they can.

00:18:28.000 That's why James Comey had the picture that he posted, right?

00:18:30.000 I'm not going to come out and say it, but I understand what the intent could be.

00:18:34.000 And I think that's where we're at as a society is the left is going to march up to that line, but then hope that someone is just radicalized enough to essentially do their dirty work for them.

00:18:44.000 Indeed.

00:18:45.000 Let's jump to this next story, though.

00:18:46.000 So we have this from the Washington Times, and I love how this is framed.

00:18:50.000 This one's just for you, James.

00:18:51.000 DOJ should be doing what James O 'Keefe is doing regarding Jeffrey Epstein.

00:18:55.000 We should frame that one.

00:18:57.000 I mean, we are releasing, you know, Pam Bondi to come out and say there are tens of thousands of little child videos.

00:19:03.000 Did you see that?

00:19:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:19:05.000 But that's only because you caught her.

00:19:06.000 We caught her, and then we reached out to her office for comment, and then she went out and said almost verbatim what we caught her saying in a restaurant.

00:19:15.000 And that was that there are tens of thousands of videos of Jeffrey Epstein with children.

00:19:19.000 Little child porn videos, apparently, and all this evidence.

00:19:23.000 And as far as I know, the FBI, the DOJ hasn't released anything, right?

00:19:27.000 They released some binders a few months back.

00:19:29.000 I don't know what that was all about.

00:19:31.000 So we've started, O 'Keefe Media started releasing video and images of inside his library, inside his temple, some weird cryptic messages, some strange statues.

00:19:42.000 How were you able to get access to this?

00:19:44.000 A source inside the government.

00:19:47.000 Wow.

00:19:47.000 Oh my goodness.

00:19:48.000 You're a reporter.

00:19:49.000 You know how it works.

00:19:50.000 But what's interesting is that the people trust us versus their own FBI.

00:19:58.000 Well, we've been covering your videos on the Epstein stuff at the Post Millennial and readers are reading it up.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, I got some heat from publishing this because people wanted names.

00:20:08.000 They wanted something more severe.

00:20:10.000 And I think we'll get there.

00:20:11.000 But the sources, Tim, they don't trust the government, obviously.

00:20:18.000 So it's a pretty cool headline.

00:20:20.000 I like that headline.

00:20:21.000 I just wanted to – I don't know if your producer or someone could pull up this affidavit in the show, but this is how much I don't trust the FBI, okay?

00:20:30.000 The probable cause, they redacted every single word of the reason they used to raid my newsroom.

00:20:36.000 Every single word.

00:20:37.000 And that's just a raid of a newsroom.

00:20:40.000 I don't have a lot of faith.

00:20:42.000 You know what everyone's been asking me this week, by the way?

00:20:43.000 I don't know how to answer this, is what do you think of Cash and Vangino saying that Epstein didn't kill himself?

00:20:49.000 Everyone's asked me that question.

00:20:51.000 Or how about that there's no there there in the Trump assassination plot?

00:20:54.000 Well, that's another one.

00:20:56.000 Yeah.

00:20:57.000 But particularly Cashin and Bongino, do you have a thought on that, the reaction?

00:21:02.000 I mean, I have plenty.

00:21:03.000 I mean, one is that they're giving you the official FBI line because that's, as the FBI, all they can give you.

00:21:08.000 That's what they were given to say.

00:21:10.000 Not that someone told him to say it, but that they opened up a file.

00:21:16.000 It's got nothing in it.

00:21:17.000 And so what's the official position of the FBI?

00:21:19.000 I think in terms of investigating Epstein and potential criminals – So they're between a rock and a hard place.

00:21:38.000 They have to give you the generic government response.

00:21:43.000 It's hard to know.

00:21:43.000 Do they have a metaphorical gun to their heads blocking them from doing this?

00:21:47.000 Or are they basically saying behind the scenes, if we went out and told people what we actually thought was going on, it could compromise our investigation.

00:21:54.000 Do you think that they should – the FBI or the DOJ should release some materials?

00:21:59.000 What do you think about that?

00:22:00.000 Yes.

00:22:01.000 But the challenge is if there are a bunch of co-conspirators, what can they release that would not give them a legal out if they then say the federal government released information that was prejudicial and now I can't get a fair trial?

00:22:16.000 They can't interrupt an active investigation, so forth and so on.

00:22:19.000 I honestly don't think that's the case though.

00:22:22.000 That's devil's advocate.

00:22:23.000 No, I think the reality is there are prominent princes and foreign corporate interests who are implicated by these documents.

00:22:31.000 And here's one simple guess.

00:22:34.000 A couple Saudi princes went to Epstein Island.

00:22:38.000 They're implicated in this.

00:22:40.000 And they say, in our country, this is legal and normal.

00:22:42.000 We didn't do anything wrong.

00:22:43.000 In your country, the stock will drop.

00:22:46.000 People refuse to do business with us.

00:22:47.000 They will demand sanctions.

00:22:48.000 They will demand we sever ties.

00:22:50.000 And then we're going to pump oil and destroy the petrodollar.

00:22:52.000 Right, and Trump just had that great Middle East trip where he got an 11-point bounce in the polls from that as well.

00:22:59.000 So, right, massive.

00:23:00.000 What if Trump goes to them and says, if we release the Epstein stuff, these nations are going to go against us, and it's going to destroy these trade deals.

00:23:10.000 What do you do?

00:23:12.000 I don't think the people of this country are going to stop talking about this.

00:23:15.000 This has been five, six years.

00:23:16.000 Right.

00:23:17.000 Their people are angry, furious. 0.97

00:23:18.000 I ask this question all day, every day, in the Panera Bread close to your studio, guy, hey, James O 'Keefe, what did you think about Dan Bongino and Cash, literally, two hours ago, near your facility here?

00:23:31.000 I think it's up to the citizens, the citizen journalists, people like yourself as well, to do the reporting.

00:23:37.000 We have a role to play, right?

00:23:38.000 The Fourth Estate, as they say.

00:23:40.000 To bring the information forward.

00:23:43.000 But anyways, yes, Epstein's Island.

00:23:47.000 Very strange.

00:23:48.000 James, several years ago, you got that video of the ABC reporter saying that we had the Epstein story, we had it, and that ABC shut it down.

00:23:59.000 Amy Robach, yes.

00:23:59.000 Amy Robach.

00:24:00.000 And that was, I believe that was when you were with Veritas.

00:24:04.000 It was 2019, yes.

00:24:06.000 And then you had, wow, I can't believe it's been six years since then.

00:24:08.000 It's crazy.

00:24:10.000 You know, I just got to say, it's now been, let's just be fair, four months.

00:24:15.000 So we got to give them time, I suppose.

00:24:18.000 I don't feel good about what Cash and Dan are saying.

00:24:21.000 What do you think the probability if Kamala Harris was the president of the United States that someone like me would have been indicted by now?

00:24:28.000 Two seconds.

00:24:29.000 Two seconds.

00:24:30.000 What's the over-under?

00:24:31.000 Now the devil advocate to that is it takes time to build a case.

00:24:35.000 We don't want fake raids.

00:24:36.000 We don't want, you know, but...

00:24:40.000 No one's held accountable for anything.

00:24:43.000 I'm held accountable.

00:24:44.000 I've been arrested, raided, sued, audited.

00:24:49.000 I'm held accountable, and I'm a reporter.

00:24:52.000 So why isn't anybody held accountable for anything?

00:24:55.000 Well, to be fair, I don't think they're holding you to account.

00:24:57.000 What's that?

00:24:58.000 They're not holding you accountable.

00:24:59.000 The powers that be.

00:25:00.000 They're not holding you accountable.

00:25:01.000 They're attacking you.

00:25:04.000 There's an overlap because the new one, they raided me, they leaked all my messages to various people.

00:25:10.000 The idea that you're being held accountable would imply that you did something wrong.

00:25:13.000 Well, it means that...

00:25:19.000 But I get your point.

00:25:21.000 But I mean, in America, we believe in this right to a speedy trial, that justice, there's a speed to justice.

00:25:27.000 Going back to your original question when you started your show, I think when you believe justice is based upon what people believe versus reality, what is true.

00:25:38.000 That's when you risk losing your mind.

00:25:40.000 When there's no justice, when there's no equality before the law, when the judge is breaking the law, that's when you start losing your mind.

00:25:50.000 And I hope that we're wrong about that.

00:25:53.000 I hope that there is justice.

00:25:55.000 I think the people of this country have no faith in the system.

00:25:58.000 And I've been accused of things I haven't done, Tim.

00:26:01.000 It's like hell on earth when you're falsely accused of a felony.

00:26:04.000 I mean, with January 6th, people were falsely accused.

00:26:08.000 At least there was a colorable crime.

00:26:10.000 In my case with the diary, it was like, are you kidding me?

00:26:13.000 Are you talking about something like the other day, the trial tax?

00:26:18.000 Yeah.

00:26:18.000 Yeah, that's like what they were trying to put James through.

00:26:21.000 The trial tax, like force you into a trial.

00:26:23.000 No, the trial tax is if someone commits a crime, the prosecutors say, we want you to take a plea bargain and go away.

00:26:33.000 If you don't, We will seek a greater penalty.

00:26:36.000 I see.

00:26:36.000 And it's called the trial tax, meaning you pay more if you ask for a jury trial.

00:26:41.000 The argument they give is you clearly are not remorseful for your crime, so you need greater punishment.

00:26:46.000 Right.

00:26:47.000 Gotcha.

00:26:47.000 But these, I'm going to say it first, and I'm curious what you guys think.

00:26:52.000 I do not believe Dan and Cash will arrest any of the corrupt Democrats or officials who attack Trump or not.

00:27:00.000 I think it's too politically terrifying.

00:27:02.000 It's scary.

00:27:02.000 It's very scary.

00:27:03.000 So they're scared?

00:27:04.000 Yeah.

00:27:04.000 Scared of what?

00:27:07.000 You know, it's fascinating because Dan gave up so much for this position that it's hard to believe that he of all people would be scared.

00:27:13.000 But I think there is a beast for whose belly we do not know what is inside of.

00:27:20.000 And it's easy to say on the outside there's nothing to fear.

00:27:23.000 But I don't know, man.

00:27:26.000 I'm curious what it is that they fear.

00:27:28.000 That's interesting.

00:27:30.000 There's a really easy one.

00:27:31.000 A guy shows up to your office with a picture of your daughter and a man standing behind her and says, you will do nothing to upset us.

00:27:39.000 Interesting.

00:27:40.000 And then they just go, uh-oh, what do I do?

00:27:42.000 And they were like, we have more power than you could imagine.

00:27:46.000 You will not put us in prison.

00:27:47.000 and you will not come after us.

00:27:48.000 And it could be some fat bureaucrat being like...

00:27:55.000 What do you think we're capable of doing that you are not?

00:27:57.000 Do you think they put everyone in a skiff, a secure compartmentalized information facility, and when they get in the office up there and they show the film of the Zapruder JFK getting shot and they say, you better do what we say?

00:28:10.000 I think it's – the way I've explained it is Trump gets elected and then they're like, Mr. President, you have a one o 'clock meeting with the CIA.

00:28:19.000 And he's like, okay.

00:28:20.000 The guy walks in and goes, Mr. President, it's a pleasure to meet you.

00:28:22.000 And he pulls out a Manila folder.

00:28:23.000 It's flat and he opens it up with a single picture of JFK and slides it across the table and says, thank you for your time and walks out.

00:28:29.000 Something like that.

00:28:30.000 I feel like there's so much frustration from a lot of people on the right because we've known a lot of information for quite some time now.

00:28:39.000 We were talking about a new story from six years ago.

00:28:41.000 And the fear is the longer this clock is allowed to run out, the greater the likelihood that individuals will not see the justice met it out against them that they should.

00:28:51.000 And I think that's why people are so pent up now because, OK, we have a essentially second chance with Trump's second term.

00:28:58.000 But then what happens in the aftermath?

00:28:59.000 What happens in 2026 if we lose the House or the Senate?

00:29:02.000 And that's why we have to do things now, and that's why people are demanding we want answers and we want names as quickly as possible.

00:29:07.000 I don't think it's going to happen.

00:29:08.000 I think right now we're in the administrative battle, and Trump's goal is we have to make sure we win.

00:29:14.000 The only thing that matters is we hold this power for the next X amount of years.

00:29:18.000 If we lose in the midterms, If they launch investigations today, then they lose in 2028.

00:29:26.000 Those investigations are gone.

00:29:27.000 Pardons are issued, overturned.

00:29:28.000 And with a seat of power, they'll claim Trump fabricated evidence and it was all fake and then start arresting people on the right.

00:29:34.000 The most important thing then is going to be gutting doge, cutting these schemes to funnel money to various political groups, making sure – deporting illegal immigrants. 0.97

00:29:43.000 Then the census comes up.

00:29:45.000 It's a five-year plan for now, seven years to the next election after 2028, I'm saying.

00:29:50.000 And make sure the Democrats lose their fake electoral votes from illegal immigrants. 0.99

00:29:56.000 Get rid of their money funnel through these, you know, Lee Zeldin found these EPA slush funds and also USAID.

00:30:04.000 And then have the doge cuts go through.

00:30:08.000 This secures the power.

00:30:09.000 Then, in a few years, you go after...

00:30:16.000 USAID, Marco Rubio testified before the Senate the other day and said that 12 cents of every dollar spent by USAID actually went to the intended recipients.

00:30:26.000 12 cents on the dollar.

00:30:27.000 Wow.

00:30:28.000 That's craziness.

00:30:30.000 I think they were largely using that in the EPA slush fund to help get Democrats elected.

00:30:34.000 Plus the U.S. Institutes for Peace, they were taking whatever they had left over in their budget and putting it into an account just for themselves.

00:30:45.000 And they had $13 million of taxpayer money in that account.

00:30:48.000 And they were using it for flights and whatever else they felt like spending it on.

00:30:52.000 So people that join these agencies and go to D.C., do they really – most of them – I mean – They just want to have power.

00:31:04.000 And the sinecure.

00:31:06.000 I mean, these jobs, it's hard to get fired.

00:31:07.000 Look, I mean, as soon as the government tries to fire you, you bring it to a judge, and the judge is like, give this guy his job back.

00:31:13.000 You can just have this job, get your raises, work from home, do whatever, take trips on the taxpayer dime, and your job is protected.

00:31:22.000 These government unions really have a stronghold as well.

00:31:26.000 They put the judges in for this purpose.

00:31:28.000 That's right.

00:31:28.000 That's what they did.

00:31:29.000 They're afraid of an entrenched bureaucracy.

00:31:30.000 Yeah, Biden appointed dozens and dozens of judges.

00:31:31.000 But people in D.C., they just want power, most of them, right?

00:31:36.000 Either that or they just want to be left alone.

00:31:38.000 So doing the right thing often is anathema or runs contrary.

00:31:43.000 I'm really interested in your point about fear.

00:31:45.000 What are they afraid of?

00:31:46.000 Dan Bongino?

00:31:46.000 We need Dan Bongino or Cash Patel to be whistleblowers.

00:31:50.000 They need to tell the absolute truth, don't they?

00:31:53.000 Well, I don't think Cash has kids.

00:31:58.000 I don't know.

00:31:59.000 He might, does he?

00:32:00.000 I'm not sure.

00:32:01.000 I know Dan does, doesn't he?

00:32:02.000 I think so.

00:32:03.000 This is the easiest path to...

00:32:05.000 I think he has a daughter, yeah.

00:32:11.000 They go to countries and say, we'll make you rich beyond your wildest dreams.

00:32:14.000 The leader says, not interested.

00:32:15.000 They say, okay.

00:32:16.000 Then they say, we're going to fund your opposition.

00:32:19.000 He blocks them and say, okay, you still win, we're going to come and get you.

00:32:22.000 And then they go in for the assassinations for an individual.

00:32:29.000 You say no.

00:32:30.000 Then they say, okay, we're going to censor you and get you banned. 0.66

00:32:33.000 If not, your daughter dies. 0.99

00:32:36.000 I've got another one for you.

00:32:37.000 The FBI arrests someone on my team and says, please lie about James O 'Keefe or you won't see your children for 10 years.

00:32:46.000 That's right.

00:32:47.000 Now, most 99.999% of people will lie to...

00:32:55.000 It's really about just keeping your children fed.

00:32:58.000 This is exactly what I've tried to explain to people.

00:33:00.000 And safe.

00:33:01.000 They believe the deal with the devil, because of movies and TV, is that he comes to you and says, listen to me.

00:33:07.000 You will have the finest cars, the most delicious wine.

00:33:10.000 You will be a king.

00:33:12.000 Do a deal with the devil.

00:33:13.000 Sign this pact and I'll make you a rock star. 0.81

00:33:15.000 That was never the deal with the devil.

00:33:18.000 The devil was not a good person seeking to enrich you and reward you for the deeds you did in serving him.

00:33:24.000 The devil came to you and said, the deal is your children will die or you will be my slave. 0.85

00:33:29.000 And everyone takes the deal.

00:33:31.000 That's a tough position.

00:33:32.000 And in the Soviet Union, Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote that some would have to decide whether it was even a good idea to have children at all.

00:33:39.000 Because you were always put in this position.

00:33:41.000 And it's a terrifying, horrible notion.

00:33:44.000 And they'll always say to you, Listen.

00:33:49.000 Spend time with your kid.

00:33:51.000 Leave the craziness to other people.

00:33:53.000 And everyone says yes.

00:33:55.000 And then everyone says that they're resigning to spend more time with their family.

00:33:58.000 That's right.

00:33:58.000 They appeal to those base instincts.

00:34:00.000 And then the sociopaths who don't care about family and think they're smarter, better, and all the other things are like, this is an easy game.

00:34:07.000 I think we've just diagnosed the problem pretty well, actually.

00:34:11.000 And it's an institutional pathology.

00:34:14.000 But there are a few brave people out there.

00:34:17.000 And I think Cash and Dan need to tell the absolute truth within the bounds of the law.

00:34:21.000 Maybe they are.

00:34:22.000 Maybe they are.

00:34:23.000 And that's the other issue, too, that I think is fair, that Dan's literally – Dan and Cash came out and said there's no there there on the assassination, and the Epstein I sent this to your producer. 0.94

00:34:35.000 Do you see this ridiculous clown show? 0.95

00:34:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:34:38.000 I want your audience to see this.

00:34:39.000 It's on page 47. The FBI just released this about...

00:34:43.000 Hold on a minute.

00:34:44.000 Yeah.

00:34:44.000 This is...

00:34:49.000 That's correct.

00:34:50.000 So, Cash and Dan, can your audience see this?

00:34:53.000 You are looking at, for those of you who aren't familiar with criminal procedure or didn't go to law school, when the FBI executes a search warrant, they have to go to a judge, a federal judge, and they have to get it signed off.

00:34:53.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:53.000 Okay.

00:35:05.000 They have to present the reasons.

00:35:07.000 Why do we want to raid your home with a battering ram and all that?

00:35:10.000 In my case, they dropped the case.

00:35:12.000 There was no crime.

00:35:13.000 There was no charges.

00:35:14.000 So the courts require them release the affidavit.

00:35:16.000 That is the probable cause justifying the search of James O 'Keefe's house.

00:35:20.000 You are looking at the Trump Justice Department's release.

00:35:25.000 Look at this.

00:35:26.000 Look at this.

00:35:28.000 This is the probable cause.

00:35:30.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:35:30.000 They didn't redact something on the bottom.

00:35:32.000 Go back to page 45. Based on my training and experience, I have learned, among other things, that cell phones are capable of sending and receiving emails like the aforementioned emails.

00:35:40.000 Are you effing kidding me?

00:35:44.000 Wow.

00:35:45.000 Wait, wait, hold on, James.

00:35:46.000 Is that true that phones can receive emails?

00:35:49.000 I guess phones can receive emails, Tim.

00:35:51.000 Wow.

00:35:52.000 So they even redacted the little footnotes in the sentences.

00:35:57.000 They redacted the numbers.

00:36:00.000 Now, this is not child porn or Epstein.

00:36:03.000 This is not Afghanistan drug traffickers.

00:36:07.000 This is a newsroom being raided by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

00:36:13.000 And the United States of America can't release one word of the reason why they did it.

00:36:21.000 After admitting there was no crime.

00:36:23.000 And you expect me to have faith in this Department of Justice.

00:36:28.000 So this, again, this is the DOJ under Donald Trump.

00:36:31.000 And this is what they put out.

00:36:33.000 Correct.

00:36:34.000 So Dan, Cash, or Pam could unredact it and send it to you.

00:36:37.000 The Attorney General of the United States has the authority to unredact this.

00:36:40.000 So what is in it?

00:36:42.000 Call Pam. 1.00

00:36:43.000 Call Cash.

00:36:44.000 It's like an infomercial.

00:36:46.000 These people get asked 10,000 favors a day.

00:36:51.000 If the system of justice depends upon us asking favors, I don't think the system works.

00:36:58.000 I think it's about administration of justice.

00:37:02.000 Yes, it should be justice for everyone.

00:37:03.000 It should be about doing the right thing.

00:37:05.000 And lost in America is any semblance of doing any right and wrong.

00:37:11.000 So, waivers, power, money.

00:37:14.000 Cronyism.

00:37:15.000 These documents you posted.

00:37:18.000 Are there other pages they gave you?

00:37:19.000 This is a public document.

00:37:21.000 This is a public proceeding.

00:37:22.000 Right, but this is page 43. That's because it's the probable cause.

00:37:25.000 That's the most important part.

00:37:27.000 The reason for the raid.

00:37:28.000 This is called an affidavit.

00:37:30.000 Oh, okay.

00:37:31.000 It's what the FBI goes to a magistrate judge when you get the raid.

00:37:39.000 Keep going.

00:37:39.000 Yeah, they're all gone.

00:37:40.000 Every single word is redacted.

00:37:42.000 Keep going, keep going.

00:37:43.000 That was it.

00:37:44.000 That's it.

00:37:44.000 So here's the funny thing, though.

00:37:45.000 On the first one...

00:37:51.000 Yes.

00:37:53.000 Okay, but they didn't redact it at the bottom.

00:37:55.000 So we know it's number 17. I don't understand the point of redacting the number up top and at the bottom because we know what it is.

00:38:01.000 I guess they were sloppy and inconsistent on that, yes.

00:38:04.000 But you see my larger point, Tim? 0.97

00:38:06.000 This is a clown show. 0.97

00:38:07.000 This is preposterous. 1.00

00:38:09.000 This is ridiculous. 0.98

00:38:10.000 How could Dan Bongino, of all people, Be compromised. 0.98

00:38:14.000 And I'm just going to be honest with you.

00:38:16.000 I'm not going to burn anyone.

00:38:16.000 But I've reached out to the White House office of Council.

00:38:19.000 Oh, I'll help you.

00:38:20.000 I'll help you.

00:38:22.000 I don't even like that I have to ask for favors.

00:38:25.000 Because if I'm just a normal Joe taxpayer, this stuff happens every day in the sky.

00:38:30.000 This is a disgrace.

00:38:31.000 Well, this stuff was happening to J6ers, too. 1.00

00:38:33.000 Absolutely.

00:38:34.000 They were just normal people.

00:38:36.000 Normal people.

00:38:36.000 Well, it's funny.

00:38:37.000 I was talking to some friends of mine who are here local to the area, like Matt and Olivia, their names, they run their own show, like Don't Unfriend Me.

00:38:43.000 And one of the things that they do is they talk to their local community.

00:38:45.000 And they say, what do you think about the Dan Bongino-Cash Patel situation?

00:38:49.000 We were talking about this earlier today at lunch.

00:38:51.000 And we were talking about we don't know what we don't know.

00:38:54.000 People are tired of not knowing.

00:38:56.000 If this is what the DOJ is going to do, if this is their idea of transparency, then I'm sorry, but we are at an impasse as far as what the definition of transparency actually is.

00:39:07.000 We, the American people, we actually demand answers in real transparency.

00:39:10.000 It's not that hard to deliver.

00:39:11.000 So again, when people say, or if I say, I do not believe that Dan Bongino and Cash Padilla or Pam Bondi are, And they say, why do you think that?

00:39:26.000 I just point to James O 'Keefe.

00:39:27.000 That's all you got.

00:39:28.000 That's exactly why I shared.

00:39:30.000 I speak a lot about my personal experiences because it's factual.

00:39:34.000 I mean, Tim, that's the evidence right there.

00:39:37.000 They can't even give you the...

00:39:41.000 I apologize.

00:39:42.000 I'm being repetitive.

00:39:43.000 They can't even unredact one word of the probable cause for their illegal rape.

00:39:52.000 To be fair, it would be funny if of and the were unredacted.

00:39:59.000 It's the only thing in it.

00:40:00.000 I mean, I'm going to sue the Department of Justice, so you know.

00:40:02.000 I'm going to go to the Article III judge.

00:40:04.000 That's the federal judge.

00:40:05.000 I have to go through this whole process, pay lawyers $1,000 an hour.

00:40:08.000 You know who wins in all this, everyone?

00:40:09.000 Yeah, the lawyers.

00:40:10.000 Lawyers.

00:40:11.000 The lawyers win because actually the more we lose, the January 6th people, everyone, the more the pleadings, the filings, the more they win because they get paid $1,000 an hour.

00:40:23.000 It's a kleptocracy.

00:40:25.000 It's a disgrace.

00:40:27.000 I'm sorry.

00:40:27.000 I'm getting a little black-pilled more so than when I first met you, Tim.

00:40:30.000 To be fair, this is just after Trump got in.

00:40:34.000 So this is before Cash and Dan.

00:40:36.000 This is in February.

00:40:37.000 This is after Trump got in.

00:40:38.000 But this is February 6th.

00:40:40.000 This is a Trump-appointed interim United States attorney in the Southern District of New York.

00:40:43.000 So maybe, maybe Cash and Dan will actually be like, no, this is BS.

00:40:47.000 Let's get it unredacted.

00:40:48.000 But how much time does that take?

00:40:50.000 I mean, under the Constitution, I forget the Bill of Rights, aren't you afforded a speedy trial and all that jazz?

00:40:56.000 I mean, how much time does it take?

00:40:57.000 Yeah, but that's only in a criminal trial for you.

00:40:59.000 What's that?

00:41:00.000 I suppose this was a criminal matter.

00:41:02.000 This is a criminal proceeding.

00:41:02.000 Yeah.

00:41:03.000 But this goes back to the concept of there being no consequence, as of right now, for this blatant lawfare, for this partisanship when it comes to these things.

00:41:11.000 I mean, just prime example, you know, swatting has become this new big thing that a lot of people will do to, you know, conservative individuals.

00:41:17.000 I myself, you know, my wife and I, we were living in our home, and next thing you know, this is literally Christmas night in 2023.

00:41:23.000 We have literally a three-week-old baby, our baby girl.

00:41:26.000 And if you all both are watching, I love you very much.

00:41:28.000 But we had a knock on the door, and someone had swatted our house.

00:41:32.000 Because they know what I do, and I am nowhere near the level that Tim, you, and James are.

00:41:37.000 But it happens all the time, but that only happens because there is no fear of consequence.

00:41:42.000 And whenever you have that sort of blatant two-tiered justice system, whatever you want to call it, people are going to continue to engage in this behavior because there's never any fear of any sort of retribution whatsoever, even when that retribution is justified.

00:41:54.000 I mean, my fear is that in the DOJ we have three people.

00:41:59.000 Cash, Dan, and Pam.

00:42:01.000 And we're asking them to deal with a problem of tens of thousands.

00:42:06.000 Maybe it's not possible.

00:42:09.000 I don't know.

00:42:10.000 Let's take a look at the initial Epstein stuff, right?

00:42:13.000 If we're to believe everything they said, Pam Bondi released this letter where she was like, I instructed the FBI to release the Epstein files and they did not do it.

00:42:22.000 And then because of Whistleblower, I found out New York was withholding information on this.

00:42:26.000 The question then is, why did we only find out about the videos they have?

00:42:31.000 Because of an undercover video from James O 'Keefe.

00:42:33.000 Why wasn't she telling the public?

00:42:35.000 What did you think about that video, Tim?

00:42:36.000 I took some heat for publishing that.

00:42:39.000 I don't dislike or like her.

00:42:41.000 It's not about what I think about the Attorney General.

00:42:43.000 But you felt I should have published that, correct?

00:42:45.000 Absolutely.

00:42:47.000 I think it's tremendously amazing journalism.

00:42:50.000 I think it shows your integrity.

00:42:52.000 You're not a partisan actor who's going to say, I give free tickets for the right or for the Trump administration.

00:42:58.000 You said, we want the truth on Epstein, and we're going to investigate it regardless of who's in charge.

00:43:03.000 We did her a little bit of a favor, I suppose, by sending the quote.

00:43:07.000 Journalistically, I actually sent the full quote of what she said in that restaurant to that nanny. 1.00

00:43:11.000 So is that a public place?

00:43:12.000 It's kind of quasi-public place.

00:43:14.000 She's telling this to a stranger.

00:43:16.000 That's weird.

00:43:17.000 Yeah, that is weird.

00:43:18.000 Why?

00:43:19.000 A stranger.

00:43:19.000 Nine days before she said it publicly.

00:43:21.000 And it was like the exact same thing.

00:43:23.000 It was like word for word.

00:43:24.000 She clearly came out and said it publicly because they knew they had to get out of you. 1.00

00:43:28.000 If she didn't come out and say that publicly, she...

00:43:36.000 Well, so when you – I don't see anything wrong with you sending them the quote saying, like, here's what we have.

00:43:42.000 You think I should have sent them the quote?

00:43:43.000 I think it's fine.

00:43:46.000 I had some reporters tell them, you're giving them – you're letting – you're giving them a way out because then she can go public on the White House and say what – well, I don't know.

00:43:54.000 It's a tough call.

00:43:55.000 But I don't think there's anything unethical about it.

00:43:58.000 It's an issue of, I guess, your publishing strategy to maximize the effect of the story or whatever.

00:44:03.000 I was shocked that she said verbatim the same thing.

00:44:06.000 I was in our newsroom and we were just aghast.

00:44:10.000 I couldn't believe it.

00:44:11.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

00:44:12.000 That sounds like PR 101.

00:44:14.000 I mean, we talk about this with all of the investigations you've done.

00:44:19.000 These people need to get in front of these stories.

00:44:21.000 When you reach out and say, hey, we have you on camera doing this, they always react wrong.

00:44:27.000 I think Pam Bondi reacted rationally.

00:44:30.000 And said, we need to get in front of the James O 'Keefe story.

00:44:32.000 Let's come out and make the announcement.

00:44:34.000 But why?

00:44:35.000 Well, the reason you would say the exact same thing is because she didn't want to reveal anything else, perhaps, other than what had already been revealed.

00:44:42.000 Correct.

00:44:43.000 Yeah.

00:44:43.000 Why was that shared with a nanny in a restaurant?

00:44:46.000 That's so weird.

00:44:46.000 We were talking about that, too, in our team, and we were like, why?

00:44:50.000 That is so bizarre.

00:44:51.000 What caused her to do that? 0.59

00:44:53.000 Guilt.

00:44:54.000 Why?

00:44:55.000 So I don't want you to expose any of your methods or anything, but how did you come to get access to that?

00:45:02.000 We did not intend to get that.

00:45:07.000 So we got undercover people and sleuths around the country just recording, and Eisner is really everywhere, I suppose, both because we have a team of 20 people undercover, but also because we have a citizen army.

00:45:20.000 And someone happened to be in that restaurant investigating something else.

00:45:24.000 Interesting.

00:45:25.000 And was simply saw that.

00:45:28.000 In public.

00:45:29.000 And recorded it.

00:45:30.000 It was in a restaurant in D.C. She was having brunch, the Attorney General, and she disclosed this to a self-described nanny on April 28th.

00:45:40.000 This was in a public place where anyone could have heard it.

00:45:43.000 Yeah.

00:45:43.000 Which is literally how you end up with video of it.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, and I'm very careful to do these undercover things where people are within earshot, so it's legal if I'm in a two-party consent.

00:45:52.000 Now, Washington's one party, so it's different.

00:45:55.000 But yeah, people could overhear the conversation, which I thought was newsworthy.

00:45:59.000 And we were literally intending to publish it, but then when she went on the White House lawn and said it, we had to rewrite the whole story, obviously.

00:46:09.000 You know, if it were me, I'd have just published on the spot.

00:46:12.000 You know, that's an interesting point.

00:46:14.000 That's the criticism I got by giving her the quote.

00:46:19.000 Arguably, I did damage to the story.

00:46:23.000 It's a weird thing.

00:46:23.000 You're obligated to reach out for comment.

00:46:25.000 On the other hand, you're giving the subject a heads up so they can do damage control.

00:46:30.000 I think it's fine.

00:46:31.000 The only reason to withhold the information from Bondi I wasn't trying to do that.

00:46:40.000 Exactly.

00:46:40.000 I wasn't.

00:46:41.000 Which is why I'm saying you did the right thing by saying we have the story.

00:46:44.000 We'd like a comment.

00:46:44.000 That's the appropriate ethical thing to do.

00:46:46.000 That's the thing you're supposed to do.

00:46:47.000 Then when she came out and said, here's the thing that's true.

00:46:49.000 Maybe it's bad for your bottom line because you didn't get credit for it.

00:46:52.000 But the story came out.

00:46:54.000 She was forced to admit it.

00:46:55.000 That's what journalism is supposed to do.

00:46:56.000 She did say there's tens of thousands of videos and we go back.

00:47:00.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 This is what.

00:47:01.000 The corporate press does.

00:47:02.000 They say, hey, we've got this story about James O 'Keefe.

00:47:05.000 Should we get a comment from him?

00:47:06.000 No, no, no, no.

00:47:07.000 Because then we'll have to run it.

00:47:10.000 He may give us information, which takes away our credibility when we defame him.

00:47:13.000 If we know for a fact it's not true, he can sue us.

00:47:16.000 Don't tell him we're doing it because we want to maximize the story in our bottom line.

00:47:20.000 We want to make money off the story.

00:47:22.000 So let's say they have a story where they're like, you know, Libby stole a pie off a windowsill from an old lady.

00:47:29.000 That's horrible.

00:47:31.000 An ethical journalist says, Libby, a source has come to us saying that they are seeking criminal charges against you for stealing a pie off their windowsill.

00:47:40.000 And then you respond with a video showing you looking at the windowsill and a different person grabs it and runs.

00:47:45.000 And you go, stop that man.

00:47:46.000 He stole it.

00:47:47.000 They now can't run the story.

00:47:49.000 They can try to weasel it out, but now they know for a fact it's not true.

00:47:53.000 So they'd rather just say, don't get a comment from Libby, accusing her of malfeasance gets us more clicks, and we can claim plausible deniability because we had no idea.

00:48:01.000 Right.

00:48:01.000 Correct.

00:48:02.000 So, long story short, James, you did the right thing.

00:48:05.000 Well, I appreciate that.

00:48:06.000 And the story got out, and it's good that we know this now, and it puts more pressure on them, and it's good that we know what happened behind the scenes.

00:48:12.000 We live in a very political, polarized society, and I'm...

00:48:19.000 I just want to tell the truth.

00:48:21.000 It sounds like a cliche, but I'm not trying to gore someone's ox or help or hurt.

00:48:27.000 I just want the truth.

00:48:28.000 What was remarkable is just how polarized we are.

00:48:33.000 Hyperpolitical.

00:48:33.000 Everyone thinks in terms of tribes and whose side they're on.

00:48:38.000 It's getting worse.

00:48:38.000 Really, journalism has stopped being just about the non-biased dissemination of the facts.

00:48:44.000 And it's more about a strategic sort of chess game.

00:48:47.000 It's like, if I do this, someone else is going to do that.

00:48:50.000 I think that's where a lot of the frustration comes from, particularly, you know, individuals who are just sitting there at home right now, you know, watching this stream.

00:48:56.000 They want answers, but to them it feels like, I have to wait for this to get that, and how long do I have to wait to get the answers that I desperately want to uncover?

00:49:04.000 The issue of the tribalism is that it already happened, and it's in the younger generations.

00:49:11.000 It happened.

00:49:12.000 There is very little red-pilling, Or waking woke or whatever.

00:49:19.000 So a lot of people tend to look at our society as a static system.

00:49:25.000 When it's actually an emergent system.

00:49:27.000 So I'd say, imagine a line.

00:49:31.000 In the middle of it is you.

00:49:33.000 And your lifespan is, you know, a tiny piece of it.

00:49:36.000 There's a wave that will come by.

00:49:39.000 Lift you up.

00:49:40.000 Here's the peak of your existence and your career. 0.99

00:49:42.000 And then you die.

00:49:42.000 And that wave continues.

00:49:43.000 But this means...

00:49:51.000 Rarely do people get red-pilled or have awakenings.

00:49:54.000 And so most people, like I said, view the system as a static system where we're constantly trying to convince the other side of why they're right or wrong.

00:50:01.000 No.

00:50:03.000 You're trying to indoctrinate young people to see the world the way you do and the things that you want and believe are true so that when they get older, those views become a part, a fabric of your society.

00:50:15.000 The point is, the polarization didn't one day just happen like a bunch of boomers looked at each other and went, hey, I don't like you.

00:50:24.000 We're enemies now.

00:50:25.000 No, the boomers are the same. 0.97

00:50:26.000 The boomers are the same as they were in the 90s. 0.96

00:50:29.000 The issue is that younger people are hyperpolarized.

00:50:33.000 In 10 years, the boomers will start passing on, dying, and the younger generation, hyperpolarization, will become a larger percentage of the political climate. 0.93

00:50:45.000 20 years from now, there will be nothing but hyperpolarization.

00:50:50.000 Really?

00:50:50.000 Here's the question.

00:50:51.000 To be fair, there's arguments to either side.

00:50:55.000 One is that Gen Z is moving towards Jesus and conservatism.

00:51:00.000 However, it's largely among males and the females are not.

00:51:03.000 But then the argument I've made is that women, because of their limited time for reproduction, will eventually cave to the demands of men because men don't have those limitations.

00:51:17.000 So it may be that this polarization is a blip in the system, and because they don't have children in 20 or 30 years, it's just going to be an overwhelmingly conservative country.

00:51:28.000 Well, my question that I feel like I would have is, while there might not be necessarily the red-pilling that many of us are used to or experienced ourselves at some point in time, is there something to be said for the fact that the younger generations are going to be inherently countercultural, that they are going to rebel against whatever they are told is the proper way to think?

00:51:49.000 I don't think that's true.

00:51:50.000 I think that was fabricated by communists.

00:51:54.000 Do you think counterculture was a communist fabrication?

00:51:58.000 I think it does happen for various reasons throughout history.

00:52:02.000 I believe this current iteration was largely communist exploitation.

00:52:09.000 And I mean that quite literally.

00:52:10.000 We were in the Cold War, and it is a fact.

00:52:12.000 I mean, if you look at – I can't believe I'm forgetting the guy's name now.

00:52:16.000 Remember that Russian guy who came and did that speech about – Solzhenitsyn?

00:52:21.000 No, no, no.

00:52:22.000 Well, he was great too, but – There's a guy who's in an interview and everybody shares it.

00:52:26.000 Oh, yes.

00:52:27.000 I know what you're talking about.

00:52:28.000 The propaganda from the 80s?

00:52:32.000 Yeah.

00:52:32.000 What was his name?

00:52:33.000 Where he said that they're going to come for your institutions, your schools, and they're going to, you know, But you know what I'm talking about.

00:52:39.000 You just can't remember the guy's name?

00:52:41.000 Yeah.

00:52:41.000 I'm going to wait for the chat because 800 people are going to Yeah, but what I think happens is From Yuri Bezmenov.

00:52:52.000 Thank you, chat!

00:52:53.000 The only reason the show works is because the chat is like a real-time oracle of facts to correct us when we're wrong.

00:52:59.000 But anyway, now I forgot what I was talking about.

00:53:03.000 What were we talking about?

00:53:04.000 We were talking about counter-culturalism as a communist plot.

00:53:09.000 So, for hundreds of years in this country, we didn't have a counter-culture.

00:53:13.000 You lived the way your grandparents lived.

00:53:15.000 You would die if you didn't farm.

00:53:17.000 There were some people who were bendy toes.

00:53:19.000 And they would eschew society, but most people for hundreds of years would wake up, tend to the chickens, tend to the crops, go to sleep.

00:53:29.000 Wake up, church day, go to church, hang out with the people.

00:53:33.000 Put on a nice hat.

00:53:34.000 You gotta put on a nice hat.

00:53:35.000 Go home.

00:53:36.000 this idea of rebellion wasn't a thing.

00:53:38.000 I believe the idea of rebellion was intentionally injected into our culture through pop culture for the purpose of... 0.99

00:53:50.000 So starting either accidentally, but it could be emergent, maybe not communist, but it could be that Industrial Revolution breeds this because we took children away from their parents, put them in institutionalized learning facilities where they are then told their parents are stupid and wrong. 0.99

00:54:04.000 And that's what we see. 0.99

00:54:05.000 And the funny thing is...

00:54:19.000 I believe that if you raise your children the way humans are supposed to, they will be loyal, understanding, intelligent.

00:54:29.000 They will see the world the way you've taught them to see it.

00:54:32.000 And this idea of rebellion is actually rare.

00:54:34.000 I think, I don't know, I think rebellion's been with us for a long time.

00:54:39.000 Look at Cain and Abel, like, you know, rebelled, killed his brother, you have rebellion throughout the Bible.

00:54:45.000 Murder happens.

00:54:45.000 Sure, but like, isn't that a rebellion?

00:54:48.000 I mean, that is looking at your parents and say, but there's not one story of murder in history.

00:54:54.000 But there's, what can we say, a tiny fraction, a tiny fraction of rebellion, and the overwhelming majority of human history is, You lived like your parents, then you lived like your grandparents, and then you had kids who lived like you and lived like them for thousands of years.

00:55:10.000 In the Middle Ages, people would pass down hats for hundreds of years, and that's why the hat fashion did not change.

00:55:16.000 But you also have so much of our literature is about pushing back against norms.

00:55:22.000 You know, if you look at older stuff than the industrial revolution as well, like it's in there.

00:55:27.000 But it's...

00:55:33.000 Where conservative parents go to church and their kid comes in and they say that they're pansexual trans kids and communism will win. 0.92

00:55:42.000 And the parents are like, where did this come from?

00:55:44.000 Well, sure.

00:55:44.000 I mean, if you send your kids to Columbia University, that's going to happen.

00:55:47.000 So I don't see the – so I believe one of the largest, biggest reasons why Gen Z is skewing to the right.

00:55:55.000 It's not because Gen Z is being red-pilled.

00:55:58.000 It's because conservatives in the 2000s had more children than liberals.

00:56:02.000 So what does that mean?

00:56:03.000 20 years later, when you start tracking the voting patterns of these people, you're going to go, wow, why are they voting for Trump more?

00:56:13.000 What convinced them to do it?

00:56:14.000 Nothing.

00:56:15.000 It's that conservatives have babies and they give their values to those kids.

00:56:18.000 When those kids turned 18, they voted and you noticed.

00:56:21.000 But those kids always had those values.

00:56:24.000 There are some that deviate and they can go either way.

00:56:27.000 And this is what I'm saying.

00:56:28.000 The left was intentionally going into institutions to tell kids to defy your parents.

00:56:34.000 Sure.

00:56:34.000 Sure, I mean, and it goes back to kindergarten.

00:56:48.000 Don't trust your stupid parents. 1.00

00:56:49.000 Well, I was homeschooled for 12 years. 1.00

00:56:51.000 And I wonder if, do you think that we are possibly understating the degree to which social validation is?

00:57:02.000 What I mean by that is it might not be a red pill or rebellion.

00:57:05.000 It might be when you grow up and you go off to college and then you are inundated with all of this desire for social validation.

00:57:14.000 that that is what influences you to make an ideological shift, not necessarily rebelling, but craving that social...

00:57:24.000 I do think so.

00:57:25.000 I think that's a component of it.

00:57:26.000 And I think that the universities exploit that intentionally.

00:57:29.000 And they want to create these pressure systems that force you to adhere to the cult.

00:57:34.000 And that's largely what woke is.

00:57:36.000 I remember when I was in high school, I was sort of like punk rock and whatever.

00:57:39.000 And I listened to all kind of punk rocky type stuff.

00:57:43.000 And then when I went to college, I visited the college after I had already said that I would go there.

00:57:50.000 After I'd already, you know, they send you your letter and you reply.

00:57:53.000 And everybody looked like I did.

00:57:55.000 And I was like, oh no, this is not going to work.

00:57:58.000 I was like getting rid of all these clothes.

00:58:00.000 I'm just going to wear white button-downs.

00:58:02.000 Totally normal.

00:58:03.000 I undyed my hair.

00:58:04.000 I put it back to its normal color.

00:58:06.000 Like everything.

00:58:07.000 And I showed up looking preppy among a sea of punk rock kids.

00:58:12.000 Punk rock became conformist, you know?

00:58:14.000 It certainly did.

00:58:14.000 It's like if all of the...

00:58:21.000 That's funny, but that mentality really has seeped into universities to such a large degree.

00:58:25.000 I went to Texas A&M University, graduated in 2014.

00:58:27.000 Even back then at a conservative school like that, And that happened back then.

00:58:39.000 Even at Texas A&M.

00:58:40.000 At Texas A&M University, yep.

00:58:41.000 And even now, Texas A&M University, they've had a fair degree of scandals associated therewith.

00:58:47.000 I feel that at that point in my life, I was homeschooled for 12 years.

00:58:51.000 I go to A&M, and then all of a sudden, I'm starting to hear this other stuff.

00:58:54.000 And I'm grateful my parents raised me with enough wherewithal to not be so pusillanimous that I would just say, I'm just going to say whatever's going to get me a pat on the back.

00:59:03.000 I'm willing to be controversial.

00:59:06.000 But I've seen others even in the homeschool community where they were raised by good, strong parents.

00:59:10.000 But then they so craved, they wanted to throw off that mentality.

00:59:14.000 Oh, homeschoolers are weird.

00:59:15.000 Homeschoolers aren't cool or fun to be around. 1.00

00:59:18.000 Oh, neither were the public school kids.

00:59:21.000 No, but I feel like that's the mentality.

00:59:24.000 People crave that validation and the social media has become so poisonous because people ascribe a sense of self or sense of value to how many likes they get, which causes them to compromise their own values in pursuit of that fleeting dopamine hit that comes when you get a couple likes on a video.

00:59:39.000 And it's a web.

00:59:40.000 It's an addiction machine where, you know, I've talked about how my daughter will not have access to this stuff.

00:59:46.000 But who knows in 13 years what technology will exist beyond this current iteration of social media.

00:59:53.000 But just like the big tech CEOs who don't let their children have cell phones, I will do the same thing.

00:59:58.000 Here's the issue.

01:00:00.000 She goes to a social setting, environment, maybe it's chess club, maybe it's some like punk, maybe she's playing in a band and she wants to, you know, there's like a talent show or something.

01:00:10.000 All the other kids are going to have phones and they're going to be like, what do you mean you're not on flim flam?

01:00:15.000 Like, I get all these likes.

01:00:16.000 And then she's going to be like, Mom, Dad, why don't I have a phone?

01:00:19.000 How can one on Flim Flam?

01:00:20.000 All the other kids do.

01:00:21.000 And we're going to say, because it's bad for you, it'll rot your brain.

01:00:23.000 And I know exactly what I thought when my parents told me that.

01:00:26.000 But then she's going to be grateful.

01:00:28.000 I mean, she's eventually going to grow up and be like, my parents were so strict, they never even let me have a Flim Flam account.

01:00:33.000 But she's going to wear it as a badge of pride.

01:00:35.000 Well, I think I'm confident in my and Allison's ability to actually, you know, convey this information to our child.

01:00:43.000 So I'm confident.

01:00:44.000 It is fascinating to me how many people are so lacking in the confidence to raise their kids that they say things like, nope, you're wrong.

01:00:53.000 It'll never happen.

01:00:53.000 You won't be able to teach your child.

01:00:56.000 Yeah, I think that's wrong.

01:01:01.000 And I think people have become so cynical and jaded from the system that they genuinely believe they can't convey.

01:01:09.000 Beliefs, ideas to their kids.

01:01:11.000 I know people who they have their kids watch these psychotic videos on YouTube.

01:01:17.000 Psychotic?

01:01:17.000 All of the kids' content is psychotic.

01:01:19.000 All of it.

01:01:20.000 There's no reason to show your kids that stuff.

01:01:22.000 No, no, no.

01:01:22.000 I'm not talking about the Elsa Gay stuff.

01:01:24.000 I'm talking about all kids' content on YouTube.

01:01:26.000 Like Coco Melon, like all of it.

01:01:27.000 All of it.

01:01:28.000 Yeah, no, there's no reason to ever show your kids that stuff.

01:01:31.000 There's that one woman, I forgot her name, and she's getting Rachel. 1.00

01:01:35.000 She's going full political. 0.98

01:01:36.000 Yeah.

01:01:36.000 She's going political to your children.

01:01:39.000 What people don't understand is, I had one person say, well, you know, my kid just loves it so much.

01:01:44.000 I said, how do they know it exists?

01:01:46.000 Right.

01:01:46.000 Why did you show it to them?

01:01:47.000 One of the best pieces of parenting advice I ever got was from two of my friends in Brooklyn who said, after my son was born, they were like, never play him kids' music.

01:01:57.000 Yeah.

01:01:57.000 And I was like, huh, I won't.

01:02:00.000 Don't.

01:02:00.000 good.

01:02:01.000 He was like, they were just...

01:02:05.000 And my son has the best musical taste now, you know?

01:02:08.000 It's eclectic.

01:02:09.000 It's interesting.

01:02:10.000 I take him to concerts.

01:02:11.000 We both like it.

01:02:12.000 The thing is, a child isn't going to know something that you don't expose them to.

01:02:20.000 And there's actually tons of literature on this.

01:02:23.000 Do not treat children like children.

01:02:25.000 And that's one of the worst things we've done as a society.

01:02:28.000 Oh, it's true because you infantilize your child and they never know how to grow up.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, it's terrible.

01:02:33.000 So what I think is great, like so interesting about to me about the millennials is so my my little brothers are 12 years younger than me and they're millennials.

01:02:40.000 And I'm not I'm whatever, Gen X, I'm Gen X. And so but we were raised by the same parents just at different times in our parents lives.

01:02:50.000 And our parents raised us all totally differently based on, you know, where they are.

01:02:55.000 are in their level of success.

01:02:56.000 You know, I was born when my parents were in their 20s and my brothers were born, I mean, to different iterations of parental families, but when they were in their 30s.

01:03:05.000 And it's totally different experience of how they were raised.

01:03:09.000 Well, there's studies that have been done about how the modern baby or kids TV shows are deliberately hijacking those young minds at that most impressionable phase.

01:03:19.000 My wife and I, we talk about, oh, there's programming that our daughter might want to watch, and it's going to be something old school.

01:03:25.000 It's going to be like Little Bear, very non-stimulating stuff.

01:03:27.000 I love Little Bear.

01:03:28.000 Yeah, it's on repeat.

01:03:29.000 We used to watch the old Scooby-Doo's.

01:03:31.000 There's this Scooby-Doo with the Harlem Globetrotters videotape that my mom had, and my son would watch it online.

01:03:38.000 Yeah, it was good.

01:03:39.000 Why do you remember it?

01:03:40.000 Why do I remember it?

01:03:41.000 For what functional purpose do you know that thing?

01:03:44.000 Do I know the Scooby-Doo?

01:03:45.000 Yeah.

01:03:46.000 I guess because it came on TV.

01:03:48.000 You know what always bothered me?

01:03:49.000 I wouldn't say it actually makes me angry or anything, but I'm going to tell you all this.

01:03:54.000 You ready?

01:03:55.000 B-A-B-A, up, down, left, right, B-A, start. 0.85

01:04:00.000 B-A-B-A, up, down, left, right, start. 0.94

01:04:02.000 This is your video game controller.

01:04:03.000 It's a video game code.

01:04:04.000 Yeah.

01:04:05.000 For which game?

01:04:06.000 No, no, I'm sorry.

01:04:07.000 It's B-A-B-A, up-down-B-A, left-right-B-A-start.

01:04:09.000 There you go.

01:04:10.000 Mortal Kombat?

01:04:10.000 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. It gives you level select.

01:04:14.000 B-A-B-A, up-down-B-A, left-right-B-A-start.

01:04:16.000 Gives you level select and 10 lives.

01:04:18.000 And I know that, and I'll know it forever.

01:04:19.000 Because I was a little kid, and it was taught to me.

01:04:22.000 Why was it taught to me?

01:04:22.000 For no functional reason.

01:04:24.000 And I still remember it.

01:04:26.000 And there's also the Konami code, which I don't know because I didn't play those games.

01:04:29.000 But famously, the Konami games had the same code, which was like BA, up, down, BA, left, right, BA, up, down, something like that.

01:04:36.000 But the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles one, I will remember forever.

01:04:39.000 And I can grab the Nintendo game, randomly put it in and be like, look at that, I know the code forever.

01:04:43.000 Now, this is the point.

01:04:45.000 We have created a society. 1.00

01:04:47.000 Where kids are exposed to nonsense, random garbage. 0.95

01:04:50.000 And I would say with the strongest of recommendations, do not have your kids watch Cocomelon or what's her name, Miss Rachel or whatever. 0.73

01:04:58.000 No, none of that.

01:04:58.000 And always watch, if you're letting your kid watch stuff, watch it with them.

01:05:02.000 Have them.

01:05:03.000 Remember when History Channel was good?

01:05:04.000 You want them to watch normal things that adults do.

01:05:07.000 Because the question is, or the point is this, a child is trying to learn to be a functioning human being in an adult human society.

01:05:16.000 Exposing them to things that are only for children that they will never experience later in life means you are building the neurons in their brain, the neural pathways, for something that does not exist functionally.

01:05:26.000 So I had a conversation in my 20s with this friend of mine, this woman, and she was saying she hated her job and she didn't know what she wanted to do with her life.

01:05:35.000 And I said, what were you doing when you were 13?

01:05:37.000 And she was like, I don't know, nothing, hanging out with my friends.

01:05:40.000 And I said, you want to run a bar?

01:05:41.000 And she went, oh my god, I would love to run a bar. 1.00

01:05:45.000 And I'm like, what you were doing when you were young, you were programmed to do.

01:05:50.000 And this is why so many people want to be at a bar all day and hang out at the bar and go to the bar.

01:05:56.000 You want to hang out with your friends, that's all you want to do.

01:05:58.000 It's like, okay, I get it.

01:05:59.000 You want to go hang out and socialize because that's what you're doing when you were a kid.

01:06:02.000 Well, guess what?

01:06:03.000 Pro ballplayers were playing ball when they were a kid.

01:06:05.000 When they were seven, they were in Little League.

01:06:07.000 When they were seven, they were in T-ball.

01:06:09.000 When they got older, they were in Little League.

01:06:10.000 Now they're pro ballplayers.

01:06:11.000 They love playing ball.

01:06:12.000 They love talking sports.

01:06:13.000 We had John Rocker on.

01:06:15.000 Someone asked him about teaching kids pitching, and he went off on all the crazy technical details of pitching and the techniques.

01:06:22.000 That's a dude who's been playing his whole life.

01:06:25.000 But what happens when you're a kid?

01:06:27.000 You do nothing.

01:06:28.000 Until you're five years old.

01:06:29.000 Literally.

01:06:30.000 Kids do nothing.

01:06:30.000 Maybe until you're four if you do preschool.

01:06:32.000 You don't really do nothing.

01:06:34.000 I mean, you know, you go around with your parents, you look at stuff.

01:06:37.000 It's actually the most important thing you can do.

01:06:39.000 But what I mean is, today, they're not doing that.

01:06:43.000 The parents are handing a tablet to the child and saying, watch Miss Rachel, who sings songs and talks nonsense that the child will never use in their life.

01:06:51.000 Right.

01:06:52.000 And so the question is, I should put it this way, a viral video that everybody loves showed a bunch of kids in the 50s talking about post-World War II or something.

01:07:00.000 And there's this little boy who's eight years old and he's talking quite like this.

01:07:03.000 I think the interesting thing about the politics of Austria is that the current tax rate is driving.

01:07:08.000 And all of these people were like, why do these children sound like adults?

01:07:12.000 Because there was no children's content.

01:07:15.000 The children only knew how to emulate adults, and so they behaved like adults.

01:07:19.000 When my son was seven years old, he was obsessed with the Titanic.

01:07:23.000 It's like every Titanic documentary, that's what he wanted to watch.

01:07:26.000 That's great.

01:07:27.000 I was buying him like the National Geographic books about the Titanic and we would read about that.

01:07:32.000 And then for a while he was obsessed with like space exploration.

01:07:35.000 So we were doing that and he was like, I want to live in space.

01:07:38.000 And I was like, okay, let's talk about that stuff now, you know?

01:07:41.000 It was like, yeah, it's always key to make sure that you're giving your kids stuff that you can tolerate.

01:07:47.000 Because the other thing too, this is something that I remember Jordan Peterson saying, raise your kid as someone you love.

01:07:54.000 I'm like, my kid is my favorite person to hang out with.

01:07:57.000 He'll be like, can we do something today, Mom?

01:07:59.000 And I'm like, oh, yay!

01:08:01.000 Let's do whatever you want.

01:08:03.000 It's like there was a Family Guy joke from a recent episode where Stewie's rebelling.

01:08:08.000 He's like, I'm going to play loud music.

01:08:11.000 And so he puts on the Archie's Sugar Sugar.

01:08:14.000 And then Peter comes downstairs and he's like, my only problem with this is the volume.

01:08:18.000 It's too quiet.

01:08:19.000 and he turns it up and I'm like No, no.

01:08:27.000 And you're like, great!

01:08:28.000 You know what he does?

01:08:29.000 He blasts Frank Sinatra.

01:08:32.000 And sometimes the Beatles and sometimes Steely Dan, sometimes Weezer.

01:08:37.000 Yeah.

01:08:37.000 Ooh, Weezer, I don't know.

01:08:38.000 Well, you know, he likes it.

01:08:40.000 I got tickets to, I'm taking him to, he's not, he doesn't know them that well yet, but I'm taking him to the Pixies this summer.

01:08:47.000 I love that.

01:08:48.000 Wow, does he listen to Sabrina Carpenter?

01:08:49.000 No.

01:08:51.000 I don't think he knows who that is.

01:08:52.000 He probably does because he goes to school.

01:08:54.000 But I've taken him to Morrissey shows, and I took him to see The Shins, and his dad takes him to the symphony quite a bit.

01:09:00.000 I mean.

01:09:01.000 Wow.

01:09:01.000 That's all rounded.

01:09:02.000 So he's going to be like.

01:09:06.000 No, because he wears button-downs.

01:09:10.000 Right now he's doing this Hawaiian shirt thing, but they're all muted.

01:09:13.000 It's like light blue with navy blue sailboats.

01:09:16.000 I want to jump to this story.

01:09:17.000 This one's interesting.

01:09:18.000 We have this from CBN News.

01:09:19.000 Joe Rogan is reportedly attending church consistently.

01:09:22.000 Christian apologist reveals.

01:09:25.000 I don't know what that means.

01:09:25.000 Well, it was Wesley Huff.

01:09:26.000 I don't think he's an apologist.

01:09:27.000 I think he's a public Christian.

01:09:30.000 He leads Apologetics Canada.

01:09:33.000 Yes.

01:09:33.000 So I guess that makes him an apologist.

01:09:36.000 What does that mean?

01:09:37.000 It's a sect or something.

01:09:38.000 I don't really know what that is.

01:09:39.000 I think it literally refers to a sect or something.

01:09:42.000 I don't know about it.

01:09:43.000 But he said he sat down for a marathon episode of Rogan's podcast in January.

01:09:50.000 He said he and the well-known podcast have had on and off communication since then, adding I can tell you for a fact that he's attending church and that has been a consistent thing.

01:09:58.000 I believe it.

01:09:59.000 What I would say—I don't think it's absolutely true.

01:10:02.000 I say that I believe it is possible and probable that Joe Rogan is now attending church regularly because of the people—so I'll put it this way.

01:10:13.000 Oh, it means scholar.

01:10:15.000 He's a scholar.

01:10:16.000 So I had a great—as I mentioned before, I was talking with Bill Maher, and I said that I'm not an atheist.

01:10:23.000 I don't consider myself—I'm not a Christian.

01:10:25.000 I don't follow any scriptures or anything like that.

01:10:27.000 I don't like using the word deist because deists believe God doesn't intervene or interact with the universe.

01:10:32.000 So that's very specific.

01:10:33.000 I'm like, no, I think there's a God.

01:10:34.000 I just don't know much else.

01:10:35.000 Like a non-interventionist God perspective.

01:10:37.000 Yeah, I don't think that.

01:10:38.000 And he's famously atheist.

01:10:41.000 But I mentioned to him that you're losing.

01:10:45.000 And why is this happening?

01:10:48.000 He's the guy who— I mean, atheism was getting so big in the 2000s.

01:10:52.000 Sure.

01:10:53.000 I mean, it started with, you know, I mean, it started for a long time, but you also had the existentialist movement, which became the post-structuralist movement and became the standard of academic intellectuals.

01:11:04.000 And then that pervaded everything.

01:11:06.000 That pervaded all the academic institutions, all the teaching programs, all of the, you know, leftist political realms.

01:11:13.000 I think for someone like Joe, much like for someone like me, It's easy to be an atheist when you're only surrounded by liberals and you don't actually hear logical arguments.

01:11:23.000 And for someone like Bill Maher, for instance, he, you know, I think if you talk to a regular run-of-the-mill guy in the street about theology, I don't think he's going to have great answers for you.

01:11:33.000 And you're probably going to be like, okay, what you believe doesn't make sense.

01:11:36.000 But if you talk to a theologian who's sat through the science, the literature, the religious texts, and then has a cohesive worldview, they can very logically break down.

01:11:45.000 And I've had those conversations.

01:11:47.000 So again, I don't follow scripture or anything.

01:11:49.000 My point is for Joe, what happens?

01:11:52.000 Liberals don't come on the show. 0.95

01:11:53.000 Conservatives do.

01:11:54.000 He's now being exposed largely to the highest level of religious and faith-based thinkers.

01:12:02.000 Joe's not bumping into random schlubs in the street who are like, I don't know, I just think it's true. 1.00

01:12:07.000 He's sitting down with Jordan Peterson, who's going to say a bunch of weird, crazy things.

01:12:13.000 He's sitting down with prominent theologists, thinkers, and otherwise.

01:12:18.000 And so I think it's very likely that someone like him is going to be like, oh, wow, you know, I didn't consider that.

01:12:21.000 maybe you're right and then go to church.

01:12:24.000 Yeah, I came back to faith after And I was like, oh, I guess I better go back to church.

01:12:40.000 It's been a minute.

01:12:41.000 Well, there's an interesting intersection between many members of the faith community, myself included, and how much our worldview is tied to that hope of a future.

01:12:53.000 If you truly believe that all there is is what we have here on this literally at some point God-forsaken earth.

01:13:00.000 Then I can understand why there's so many people who are far radical left who will denounce any notion of there being a higher power.

01:13:08.000 So for them, this has to be all there is.

01:13:10.000 So basically, anarchy should rule.

01:13:12.000 Chaos should reign supreme because there's nothing else to look forward to.

01:13:15.000 But I believe the Bible says, be ready to give an answer for the hope that lies within you.

01:13:19.000 So if I'm ready, It goes even back to my discussion with people on politics.

01:13:25.000 I have to be ready.

01:13:27.000 Tim has to be ready.

01:13:28.000 James, you have to be ready.

01:13:29.000 We all have to be ready to give an answer for what we believe.

01:13:31.000 And that ties and intersects sometimes with our faith.

01:13:34.000 And when it does, it's a beautiful thing.

01:13:35.000 I agree.

01:13:37.000 Yeah.

01:13:38.000 That's true.

01:13:38.000 But this is just part of a bigger trend in more and more people are going to church.

01:13:42.000 It's like the church revival, I guess.

01:13:43.000 Also, churches have been getting like...

01:13:50.000 I really liked the priest.

01:13:52.000 I liked the people that I knew there, but it was an aging church.

01:13:56.000 And the church I go to now in West Virginia, there's— There's babies and there's families.

01:14:02.000 And what do they say about church?

01:14:03.000 If it ain't crying, it's dying.

01:14:06.000 That's true.

01:14:07.000 And so I love it.

01:14:08.000 And the kid will look at you over the pew and be like, it's life-affirming and good how it should be.

01:14:15.000 I look at it like, Allison and I have talked about it.

01:14:20.000 What do we want for our daughter?

01:14:21.000 And we are not—we're lapsed Catholics, and we don't— You should come to my church.

01:14:25.000 We don't follow Scripture or anything, but we do understand that the teachings of the church are good, and we're good for us.

01:14:31.000 There's just a difference between understanding the logical good that comes from this belief structure and actually believing in the faith, and we don't have that.

01:14:39.000 But then it's an issue of like, well, I don't want to go to church.

01:14:42.000 For that reason, it feels disingenuous, but at the same time, we really don't want our daughter to grow up influenced by these other lunatics.

01:14:48.000 And the other thing, too, is you start—of course you should go, even if you don't believe.

01:14:52.000 The Catholic Church is full of opportunities for doubt and for that doubt to be allayed.

01:15:00.000 Look at Thomas.

01:15:01.000 Thomas still was there, and he was super tight with Jesus, even though he was like, I don't think you were raised from the dead.

01:15:07.000 Show me your hands.

01:15:09.000 I mean, that's what the church is for.

01:15:11.000 The church is there to embrace.

01:15:12.000 Well, of course, literally every Christian is like, just go. 1.00

01:15:15.000 Nobody cares.

01:15:16.000 Go and say you don't believe.

01:15:18.000 We don't care.

01:15:18.000 We want you there.

01:15:19.000 Also, if you go to the church that I go to, it's so vibrant.

01:15:25.000 It doesn't matter.

01:15:26.000 Do they do a potluck afterwards?

01:15:28.000 They sometimes do.

01:15:30.000 You gotta do it every time.

01:15:31.000 You don't have to go.

01:15:32.000 But there's so many good community aspects.

01:15:34.000 Like, my son has a lot of friends at church.

01:15:37.000 And so we'll go.

01:15:38.000 And then after Mass, I can't find him.

01:15:40.000 Because he's going to talk to his friends.

01:15:42.000 And I'm like, I'll sit here for hours if you want to go talk to your friends at church.

01:15:46.000 Like, I'll just sit here.

01:15:48.000 You know, what's funny is that these liberals tried creating this idea that if there was going to be a Christian nation— And it's just literally nothing like that because this country had been a Christian nation before.

01:16:06.000 And those values brought it to where it is now, much to the detriment of the Christians who tolerate and allow bad people to do these things. 0.75

01:16:16.000 And the left has created the Handmaid's Tale.

01:16:19.000 I love The Handmaid's Tale.

01:16:20.000 Yeah, I mean, all of this stuff.

01:16:22.000 Polyamory.

01:16:23.000 I mean, they're the ones who are creating the conditions of that Atwood novel.

01:16:27.000 The Handmaid's Tale, it dramatizes what can happen when you pervert.

01:16:32.000 what the intent of religion or spirituality could be.

01:16:36.000 Right?

01:16:36.000 Because you, if with any religion you have, you can be an individual who is in a quote unquote extremist.

01:16:41.000 People say that, you know, certain religions are the quote unquote religion of peace, but it seems very antithetical to what you see on the news if you're looking at certain stories about, oh, well, what was the common denominator here?

01:16:51.000 Right?

01:16:52.000 But it's what's interesting is now with the left, they're trying to create religion as if that is the The thing we should be rallying against.

01:17:02.000 With the self at the center.

01:17:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:17:03.000 And the longer they're allowed to do that, the more, honestly, you're seeing people who are maybe counterculture saying, maybe I should check out what the church is talking about.

01:17:11.000 Maybe it isn't all bad.

01:17:13.000 Maybe it's not going to be the end all, be all my problems, but it's better than the alternative.

01:17:18.000 And there's ancient traditions that are so cool.

01:17:20.000 You know, I mean, what better way to like understand or at least attempt to understand what humanity is than to tap into the...

01:17:33.000 There's traditions going back thousands and thousands of years, like Jesus was celebrating a Passover Seder. 0.66

01:17:39.000 We can all do that, you know, because we were talking before, you could just do things.

01:17:43.000 You know, there's traditions from the Middle Ages, like this one called Tenebrae that happens during Lent.

01:17:50.000 And you can just, you can feel the historicity of it.

01:17:55.000 You can feel that, you know.

01:17:59.000 James, I've never actually seen you talk about it or ever talk to you about it.

01:18:05.000 About faith?

01:18:06.000 Yeah.

01:18:06.000 About religion?

01:18:07.000 I'm a man of faith.

01:18:09.000 I'm a very spiritual person.

01:18:11.000 I think the experiences in my life and the challenges have made me more so realize this is a fight of good versus evil.

01:18:19.000 I agree.

01:18:20.000 When I was younger, I didn't believe in good and evil.

01:18:23.000 I thought that it was competing interests.

01:18:27.000 Largely believing that they were correct and morally justified.

01:18:30.000 And that was very naive to think.

01:18:32.000 You get older, and then you just start to question why some people are just possessed.

01:18:37.000 It's just demonic.

01:18:39.000 It's a demonic—the experiences I've been faced with, and I've realized this is a spiritual war, and it's a story of original sin.

01:18:48.000 And it's actually—what they don't tell you is the evil is actually within us.

01:18:55.000 It's not just out there in the enemy.

01:18:59.000 It's like within us, you have to conquer that evil within yourself.

01:19:02.000 Well, because we're all monsters.

01:19:03.000 Correct.

01:19:04.000 Have you noticed that there seems to be a disquieting common phenomenon that all too often I'll see a certain look in someone's eyes?

01:19:13.000 And sometimes it can give away.

01:19:15.000 Oh, okay, so if you're out chanting and blocking an ambulance or whatever, and you've got your fist in the air, and you're showing me the tops of the lights of your eyes, okay, that's almost giving me a clue as to what your ideology is.

01:19:27.000 It's kind of interesting when you start—I'm not trying to get too conspiratorial, but sometimes you'll see that manifestation of the spiritual life or lack thereof in a person based on how they choose to comport and present themselves.

01:19:39.000 I was talking to Jack Posobiec, and I said— You know, the Christian scripture stuff, the resurrection, none of that sways my opinion on things because I don't experience that.

01:19:48.000 To me, I get it.

01:19:50.000 There are stories and history and things like that.

01:19:53.000 But the one thing that really sways me is demons.

01:19:56.000 Like, come to me and talk to me about demons, and then I'm like, I'm listening because that I've experienced.

01:20:00.000 There is this evil that possesses people that I can't logically explain.

01:20:07.000 Oh, it's terrifying to see it.

01:20:08.000 People that I've known my whole life that one day woke up as demons.

01:20:11.000 And I'm going to say this.

01:20:13.000 Demon figuratively or literally call it whatever you want.

01:20:16.000 People that I've known my whole life that were friends and then one day just started doing destructive, violent, evil things.

01:20:23.000 Sounds like the situation of Project Veritas we're about to talk about.

01:20:27.000 Indeed.

01:20:30.000 That's exactly what happened to me.

01:20:33.000 Excellent segue, Mr. James.

01:20:35.000 Speaking of Rogan, did you see how he was on the air the other day and asked about this, Joe Rogan?

01:20:41.000 He said, what happened at Project Veritas?

01:20:45.000 Why doesn't James O 'Keefe release the videotapes of Project Veritas?

01:20:49.000 The video guy.

01:20:51.000 So I assume that Joe recorded that episode the day before you announced.

01:20:55.000 Epstein's library, right?

01:20:58.000 James O'Keefe just released video of 20 seconds.

01:21:01.000 I was in his library, right?

01:21:06.000 Incredible.

01:21:07.000 And then you got ousted at the Project Veritas, right?

01:21:10.000 And then went.

01:21:13.000 Like, I'd like to know what the story there is, because there's no official story.

01:21:18.000 The guy who releases everything, why wouldn't he release that?

01:21:21.000 That was actually Wednesday.

01:21:23.000 And then like an hour later, I released the – But yeah, I mean, it's like, you know, what you were just talking about, spirituality.

01:21:31.000 That was, it was just so good.

01:21:35.000 So here.

01:21:37.000 Oh, there it is.

01:21:38.000 This is it?

01:21:38.000 James O'Keefe just released video of Epstein's library, right?

01:21:46.000 Incredible.

01:21:46.000 And then he got ousted at Project Veritas, right?

01:21:50.000 And then went...

01:21:53.000 I'd like to know what the story there is.

01:21:54.000 I mean, Joe can just have you on his show.

01:21:57.000 I don't understand.

01:21:59.000 I don't understand.

01:22:01.000 I mean, that's a separate issue.

01:22:02.000 So this is what everyone is dying to know because you put out a video with Veritas behind you in the video.

01:22:09.000 Yeah, and that's what I'm on your show here, Tim, to talk about.

01:22:13.000 I released a movie that's called The Truth Inside Project Veritas.

01:22:19.000 The Truth Inside the Truth.

01:22:20.000 And there's a 12-minute video online that takes you through some of the examples, and there's a 54-minute long film, and you get to see inside that boardroom.

01:22:29.000 You've reported on this extensively at Post Millennial.

01:22:31.000 Yeah, we sure did.

01:22:32.000 You've done dozens of articles about it.

01:22:34.000 So people that you thought were your friends one day woke up as demons and said, we're going to destroy everything that James has built.

01:22:42.000 Yes, and there are so many questions.

01:22:46.000 Rogan is asking questions.

01:22:47.000 Everyone had questions about why did this happen, how did this happen.

01:22:50.000 So there's newly released deposition videos, Tim, from federal court of these board members talking about their conflicts of interest, talking about how they wanted to harm me.

01:23:02.000 The actual board meeting video has now been released.

01:23:06.000 Where you see people talking about stealing pregnant women's sandwiches.

01:23:09.000 The pregnant woman now denies this ever happened.

01:23:13.000 I made donors cry because I wouldn't take a photo with them.

01:23:16.000 The donor denies this happened.

01:23:18.000 There's like this crazy psychological, spiritual thing that happened.

01:23:24.000 And you might be wondering what the...

01:23:30.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:23:30.000 Just tell me which one to grab.

01:23:31.000 Which one do you want?

01:23:33.000 I think I gave that X link to you, but if you go on my X page and scroll down, you can see there's a 12-minute video I posted the other day.

01:23:45.000 And you can actually see this.

01:23:48.000 It's O 'Keefe and Talks to Regain Control of Project Veritas two days ago.

01:23:51.000 Keep going.

01:23:56.000 Keep going.

01:23:58.000 There it is right there.

01:23:59.000 This one right here?

01:23:59.000 Yeah, if you just want to...

01:24:03.000 You're going to scroll through.

01:24:04.000 There's a guy named George Skakel.

01:24:06.000 Keep going.

01:24:07.000 There it is.

01:24:08.000 So if you just play some of these clips from this deposition.

01:24:11.000 Under oath, the companies, quote, could be sold to a big pharmaceutical like Pfizer.

01:24:17.000 Three of the four companies you've invested in, you would consider to be in the medical field.

01:24:21.000 Heterogen could be sold to a big pharma.

01:24:26.000 Like Pfizer.

01:24:27.000 Like Pfizer.

01:24:28.000 Pause.

01:24:29.000 And this was during the At the time, we were investigating Pfizer.

01:24:47.000 Everybody thought that you got ousted because of Pfizer.

01:24:51.000 Because right after the biggest story of Veritas, the Pfizer story, you are ousted.

01:24:57.000 And then...

01:25:00.000 And there's a couple of- These guys were co-investing.

01:25:02.000 And it's fascinating because in the videos you have, they mention that they don't consider it a conflict of interest.

01:25:08.000 He's wishy-washy as to when he started making these investments.

01:25:12.000 Right.

01:25:12.000 And so the narrative looks to be what everyone thought it was.

01:25:15.000 These guys stood to lose a lot of money from their investments if your Pfizer story damaged this industry.

01:25:22.000 Yes.

01:25:22.000 And there's more.

01:25:23.000 There's more clips of this deposition.

01:25:25.000 If you can keep playing the next- Next clip from this.

01:25:28.000 Do you know which timestamp it's at?

01:25:30.000 Go back.

01:25:32.000 I mean, we asked him about conflicts of interest.

01:25:35.000 And signed a conflict of interest policy.

01:25:38.000 How do you define conflict of interest?

01:25:39.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:25:41.000 Give me a dictionary and I'll read you the definition.

01:25:43.000 Now, I'm announcing it.

01:25:45.000 So we released, there's so many clips to show.

01:25:48.000 If you scroll down, I'm confronting this guy.

01:25:50.000 Keep going, I'm like ambushing this guy outside of his house.

01:25:56.000 And you'll get to see kind of the nature of this individual.

01:26:00.000 Oh, you know what?

01:26:01.000 I think I have the time stamps written down, I think.

01:26:03.000 I think that's from the actual film.

01:26:05.000 Oh, okay.

01:26:06.000 The long film.

01:26:08.000 There, there.

01:26:09.000 Let's go back.

01:26:10.000 Go back to me.

01:26:10.000 This is me talking to one of the board members of Project Veritas.

01:26:13.000 When you were on my board, did you disclose that you had investments in these medical companies?

01:26:17.000 At the time I was on your board, I didn't.

01:26:19.000 When did you begin investing in Man's companies?

01:26:22.000 A few years ago.

01:26:24.000 While you were on the board?

01:26:25.000 Yes, I think I was on the board then.

01:26:26.000 I want to talk about your investments.

01:26:28.000 I want to talk about you.

01:26:30.000 Is it all about money?

01:26:31.000 Too bad you can't afford that.

01:26:32.000 So he points to his mansion and says you can't afford – That really does.

01:26:41.000 That's sort of wild.

01:26:42.000 As though, like, this is what meaning is all about.

01:26:45.000 If you could scroll back in the video, too, there's a scene of a black screen in the subtitle.

01:26:49.000 They're talking about me taking black cars.

01:26:51.000 Go back a few minutes.

01:26:53.000 I love the cringe attempts at claiming that you did anything wrong by using vehicles.

01:26:58.000 You've got to listen to it so you can hear what the guy says because it really cuts to what we're – It's this scene of it's audio only, but there it is.

01:27:07.000 The beginning of the scene, Barry Hinckley.

01:27:09.000 Go back until that begins.

01:27:11.000 This is one of the executives of the company.

01:27:13.000 It's a little hard to hear over the...

01:27:16.000 Well, you can see it.

01:27:17.000 And he says.

01:27:18.000 I should.

01:27:19.000 You just had it.

01:27:22.000 picking me up, moving me around.

01:27:23.000 I ran a large company with a lot of employees and I never lived this lifestyle with black cars constantly picking me up, moving me around.

01:27:31.000 Expensive accommodations when the rest of the staff are staying at one level.

01:27:35.000 I mean, all for one and one for all Pause.

01:27:42.000 So what was remarkable about this was watching people who considered themselves of the right acting like communists.

01:27:51.000 You're not allowed to make more money than me.

01:27:55.000 You're not allowed to have a car drive you around.

01:27:57.000 How do you expect me to get to the Uber carpool?

01:28:01.000 Like, what do you want me to?

01:28:02.000 Carrier pigeon?

01:28:03.000 How am I supposed to?

01:28:04.000 None of it made any sense.

01:28:06.000 Black cars is just a fancy way of saying pre-scheduled cab.

01:28:09.000 A pre-scheduled driver.

01:28:11.000 Yeah.

01:28:11.000 And when you're raising $20 million a year, raising all these millions of dollars to pay lawyers, so I guess this is a crazy story, and you've reported on it extensively at Postmillennial, but now you get to hear it and see it.

01:28:24.000 No, I'm looking forward to watching the video.

01:28:25.000 What do you think would happen if you pulled up to, like, a big donor who wants to give a million bucks to Veritas, and you pulled up in a busted-up car, and you're wearing crappy clothes, and you want to take them to McDonald's?

01:28:37.000 They would not give you a million dollars.

01:28:41.000 It was, you know, whatever it was, $6,000 helicopter ride.

01:28:44.000 By the way, these are smart.

01:28:45.000 Okay, let me take a step back.

01:28:47.000 The guy you just watched has an MBA from Harvard.

01:28:50.000 This other guy, Matt, has an economics degree from the University of Chicago.

01:28:54.000 And what was remarkable is seeing these people who are so knowing, but they have no wisdom.

01:29:00.000 I think there's a difference between knowledge and wisdom.

01:29:04.000 You take a rando off the street, they get it. 0.86

01:29:07.000 You take a helicopter because you want to get there fast.

01:29:10.000 Let me tell you.

01:29:11.000 Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit, and wisdom is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.

01:29:17.000 That's the old saying.

01:29:18.000 Well, there you go.

01:29:19.000 That's very astute.

01:29:20.000 That's a very astute saying.

01:29:21.000 Although I do make a salad with avocado and tomato, and it's fruit.

01:29:25.000 Sure, but a fruit salad is strawberries, pineapples, and blueberries.

01:29:29.000 Don't put tomatoes in that.

01:29:30.000 But what I saw was human nature.

01:29:32.000 We talk about spirituality.

01:29:33.000 There's so much to dive in on this documentary.

01:29:36.000 It's very cinematic.

01:29:38.000 It's unbelievable.

01:29:39.000 I want to explain.

01:29:40.000 I mean, first of all, I am a proud capitalist, as I think most of the people who watch this show are.

01:29:46.000 But I'm a little socially liberal.

01:29:49.000 I don't mind.

01:29:50.000 Certain government programs, so long as they're under strict oversight, and I think it's hard to do.

01:29:55.000 But I just flew to LA.

01:29:58.000 I flew first class.

01:30:00.000 I'm not a flying coach.

01:30:01.000 It's not going to happen.

01:30:03.000 It's difficult enough to fly twice in two days and try and make it back to LA. 0.96

01:30:09.000 It sucks. 0.85

01:30:11.000 It was literally all day in an airport and then all day in an airport. 0.99

01:30:15.000 And it's standing, waiting, standing.

01:30:16.000 Then I'm like, I am going to sit down and recline.

01:30:20.000 And they don't even recline that much.

01:30:21.000 And I'm going to eat a...

01:30:24.000 Salmon or something?

01:30:25.000 Well, something decent where you don't have to get McDonald's at the airport. 0.57

01:30:29.000 Yeah, I'm not eating that garbage.

01:30:30.000 And I think the ticket was, I don't know, like 800 bucks or something.

01:30:34.000 But I think that was like 300.

01:30:36.000 I think envy, Tim, and for lack of a better word, jealousy, is perhaps something that we don't talk a lot about.

01:30:44.000 But it is a very powerful sin.

01:30:47.000 And I'm sure we've all seen it.

01:30:50.000 But I think this is something that leads to resentment, Tim.

01:30:54.000 People become jealous.

01:30:56.000 If you're the public face of an organization and if they don't get what they want, that resentment can turn to vindictiveness.

01:31:04.000 The vindictiveness of the Project Veritas employees was so obscene and so disgusting that I can't even say on the air.

01:31:13.000 They sent me a picture of me nailed to a crucifix.

01:31:18.000 There was pornographic insults and it was all stemming from this kind of vindictiveness which is a form of envy.

01:31:25.000 And you saw the executive saying James shouldn't have a driver.

01:31:29.000 Now, a lot of my donors said, you better have a security guard and a driver.

01:31:34.000 You should be taking an UberX, James O 'Keefe.

01:31:37.000 But my own people, my own team, wanted me to suffer.

01:31:42.000 So this is a very spiritual journey.

01:31:45.000 It's a story about human nature.

01:31:47.000 I made a movie.

01:31:48.000 It's behind my paywall at O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com.

01:31:51.000 It's called The Truth Inside Veritas.

01:31:57.000 And all of the board members are being deposed.

01:32:00.000 We've deposed three board members.

01:32:01.000 One board member says in this film, The board member, Joe Barton is his name, took off all the personal messages between me and my girlfriend and published them.

01:32:14.000 Which is a tort.

01:32:16.000 You can't do that.

01:32:17.000 It's unlawful.

01:32:18.000 And they just did it to hurt me.

01:32:20.000 And you might say, well, maybe I didn't hire the right people.

01:32:23.000 And I think you'd be correct.

01:32:24.000 But I also think when you're in a high-pressure environment and you're going after really powerful people, you better make sure your team is unbreakable and has a lot of integrity.

01:32:37.000 And I think it's going back to a conversation we had earlier about the FBI, about, you know, What type of person it takes.

01:32:44.000 It's hard to find a person who has no price.

01:32:48.000 How fast did Veritas grow?

01:32:50.000 Because it seemed like you guys were growing.

01:32:51.000 Too fast.

01:32:52.000 Yeah.

01:32:52.000 And my mistake was I said, everyone come in.

01:32:55.000 You're all welcome inside.

01:32:56.000 The door is open.

01:32:58.000 Oh, you want to help the mission?

01:32:59.000 Come on in.

01:33:00.000 And I think what I learned was you really have to vet the heck out of people.

01:33:05.000 And that was a mistake I made.

01:33:07.000 But I also always saw the best in people.

01:33:11.000 I always wanted to believe the best in people.

01:33:13.000 But the incentive to betray me and to be in it for the wrong reasons, I think a lot of people want the credit.

01:33:22.000 They want to be famous.

01:33:23.000 This is the truth.

01:33:25.000 They just want to be famous.

01:33:26.000 They want the credit.

01:33:28.000 And I think if that's what your motivation is, if that's why you're doing this, you're probably not – you shouldn't be there.

01:33:33.000 Well, that's what happened with Trump, too, in that first term was I feel like he threw open his arms and said, anyone who's on Team MAGA, I want you to be a part.

01:33:40.000 And he did get burned by more than a few people who were in it for those selfish, self-serving reasons.

01:33:46.000 I think we're seeing in the second term he has a little bit more discernment.

01:33:50.000 Of course, some people would say maybe he should have even more discernment.

01:33:52.000 His people are more loyal now.

01:33:54.000 Yes, I agree.

01:33:55.000 Someone commented, Patrick, he says, how is what Tim and James just did any different from the guy in the video saying you can't afford this while pointing to his house?

01:34:04.000 James and I did not look into the camera and mock you for not being able to afford helicopters and jets.

01:34:10.000 That guy was insulting James because James can't afford to live in a mansion like he does.

01:34:15.000 That was the world he valued.

01:34:17.000 I don't care about flying first class or flying jets or any of those things.

01:34:21.000 I'm not – and I don't have disdain for people who don't do those things and I don't mock people for not having those things.

01:34:28.000 Yeah, I think envy – it's a form of – I mean anyone who says, you look at my mansion, you can't afford it, probably didn't build their business from scratch.

01:34:36.000 I remember – One of the famous clips from Real Time with Ben Shapiro when he was on with Malcolm Nance.

01:34:42.000 And then Nance said something like, how do you sleep at night?

01:34:44.000 And he says, on a pile of money.

01:34:46.000 And people on the right were cheering for that.

01:34:47.000 And I'm like, I don't think that was a good answer.

01:34:49.000 What Ben Shapiro said on a pile of money?

01:34:51.000 Yeah, on a big pile of money.

01:34:52.000 That sounds uncomfy.

01:34:54.000 I wouldn't recommend it.

01:34:56.000 It's filthy as well.

01:34:57.000 But the point was, he's successful and rich, so you insult me, I insult you back.

01:35:02.000 And everyone did appreciate the snapback, but I'm...

01:35:08.000 Well, I mean, I think that was – I mean, in response to that, yeah, that's not what we're doing here.

01:35:13.000 There's a contempt and there's a jealousy that is inherent in many institutions, Tim.

01:35:19.000 It's in our economics.

01:35:20.000 It's in our humanity.

01:35:21.000 It's in our politics.

01:35:22.000 I mean, people are probably envious of you.

01:35:24.000 I'm sure you've experienced this.

01:35:26.000 And they're evil.

01:35:27.000 And you have to be careful in a media organization because if you're the public figure and you have all these staffers who are helping you – And you're making money and you're the only – you're taking all the risks in your business, right?

01:35:38.000 They may not have an equity stake.

01:35:40.000 They can grow quite resentful.

01:35:42.000 And at Project Veritas, a union, for lack of a better word, a union began to form.

01:35:46.000 People began to go on strike and say, why is this guy getting all the credit?

01:35:50.000 Well, of course, he's also taking all the arrows.

01:35:52.000 He's also getting sued, going raided, getting jailed.

01:35:56.000 But they don't think about that.

01:35:57.000 So what I discovered was – and this really rocked my worldview.

01:36:02.000 Is that our notion of right-left, it's not really a thing.

01:36:06.000 It's human nature.

01:36:08.000 But watching all these right-wingers behave like communists, they created this revolutionaries chat inside the company, and they were just trying to find ways to hurt me.

01:36:18.000 Can you talk about the current state of Veritas and how they're doing?

01:36:24.000 I guess they're on the verge of bankruptcy.

01:36:27.000 Well, hold on.

01:36:27.000 That doesn't make sense.

01:36:28.000 I thought they were the real talent behind everything.

01:36:30.000 That's what they said, yes.

01:36:31.000 Well, in the board meeting, in this film, I'm going to shamelessly plug my movie.

01:36:37.000 Okay, so in communism, they say you can't have the farm without the farmer.

01:36:41.000 That's a famous communist saying.

01:36:42.000 It's the labor theory of value.

01:36:44.000 They were arguing...

01:36:47.000 It's our employees.

01:36:49.000 It's our labor.

01:36:50.000 It was one of the great ironies of my life to watch people with master's degrees in economics make arguments out of the Communist Manifesto.

01:36:58.000 It's mind-blowing!

01:37:00.000 Mind blown.

01:37:01.000 But then you begin to realize...

01:37:04.000 One of the arguments made by Matthew Tiermon, the board member who fired me, was he said, Project Gratas, we will lose no output.

01:37:12.000 We have plenty of employees.

01:37:13.000 We don't need James O 'Keefe anymore.

01:37:16.000 And they had deluded themselves.

01:37:18.000 And you might say, well, that's an irrational statement.

01:37:20.000 I say, it's rooted in envy.

01:37:24.000 It's all about jealousy.

01:37:26.000 And I hate to say it because it sounds like self-aggrandizing or something.

01:37:31.000 I'm just reporting to you what happened.

01:37:33.000 And when you watch this film and you see the vindictiveness, I mean, it's shocking.

01:37:40.000 And Jordan Peterson talks about betrayal and how painful it is to face that level of betrayal.

01:37:48.000 And it's jealousy.

01:37:50.000 It's all jealousy.

01:37:52.000 I've experienced it, man.

01:37:53.000 Talk to me about that.

01:37:55.000 Nothing like what you've experienced.

01:37:56.000 This is crazy.

01:37:57.000 Well, give me an example of something you have seen.

01:37:59.000 I've had numerous good friends of mine that I've known for a decade plus start making up fake stories to try and get clapped.

01:38:08.000 Friends?

01:38:08.000 I don't call them friends now.

01:38:10.000 It's fascinating because I have some friends that are like liberal Hollywood elites.

01:38:16.000 They've never said a bad word about me.

01:38:20.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:22.000 There's a friend of mine I haven't talked to in a few years, and we're pretty good friends, and they're a liberal actor, and he's never said a bad thing about me.

01:38:32.000 And he's very liberal.

01:38:33.000 He's very activist-y, and he talks and has had the opportunity to disparate.

01:38:37.000 Nope.

01:38:38.000 Do you think the conservative movement – I don't even know what conservative means anymore, but let's call it the conservative movement.

01:38:44.000 This is more prevalent in the conservative because they're more individualistic, they're more competitive versus the liberal groups?

01:38:50.000 No, no.

01:38:51.000 I think the example of it being more prevalent in the left is wokeness and the cult.

01:38:55.000 It certainly exists on the right, but what happened to me with, you know, there's one guy that I skated with for years when I was a teenager, lived at his house briefly, like, he put me up, and then one day he's making up fake stories, and he was using the fact that we used to be friends.

01:39:13.000 As a point of credibility to then lie and try and get media attention. 0.70

01:39:18.000 That sucks. 0.99

01:39:19.000 Among the left. 1.00

01:39:19.000 It's always because they're on the left and they want this path to be like, oh, I can give you exactly what you want because they're evil people. 1.00

01:39:25.000 It's demonic.

01:39:27.000 And I was shocked.

01:39:28.000 I'm like, bro, what are you doing?

01:39:32.000 But I'm sure as a very successful journalist, a very successful podcaster, you're incredibly successful and talented.

01:39:40.000 Of course.

01:39:45.000 Of course.

01:40:09.000 Look, I work 14 to 16 hours every single day and some hours on the weekends, and I make a lot of money by doing it.

01:40:19.000 And then the leftists demand I pay higher taxes for making more money because the presumption is I'm working the same amount as them and making more money than them, when the reality is I'm working more hours than them, more than double, which creates an exponential growth curve in developing a business and generating revenue.

01:40:38.000 It's like that whole thing about, you know, women make some smaller amount on the dollar to men, and it's like, well, there's reasons for that. 0.99

01:40:47.000 Yeah, they work 32 hours on average.

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01:43:15.000 But I was just talking to my wife and I was just like, at any rate, it's a delicious cup of hot cocoa.

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01:43:51.000 It's hard to fall asleep after the show.

01:43:53.000 Because you're working.

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01:44:19.000 All right.

01:44:20.000 Joey Giggle says, Tim, like Adam Cuckover, said, I don't watch your show.

01:44:24.000 You don't watch Hassan's show.

01:44:25.000 If Asmund Gold can see that Hassan calls for violence, you should be able to as well.

01:44:29.000 My point was that Hassan isn't explicitly stating, hey, you go do this thing.

01:44:34.000 I said he gets as close as he can to saying it without telling people to actually incite violence.

01:44:38.000 Like, to direct them to do it.

01:44:40.000 And I stand by that.

01:44:43.000 I think, I'm pretty sure Hassan came out and condemned the attacks.

01:44:46.000 He said he doesn't agree with those things.

01:44:48.000 I don't know that he actually believes it.

01:44:50.000 I'm saying he wouldn't exist on the internet if he was calling for these things.

01:44:50.000 I'm not saying that.

01:44:54.000 He wouldn't have the show that he does.

01:44:57.000 Alright, Tyler Today News says, Love the show.

01:44:59.000 I've been watching for years.

01:45:00.000 I was wondering if you're considering I'll be streaming tonight after your show.

01:45:07.000 Indeed.

01:45:13.000 So we had a really great show on the culture war today talking about aliens, AI, other crazy stuff.

01:45:19.000 And big show. 0.96

01:45:21.000 And somebody commented, said, we're just watching a rerun of Art Bell from 1984.

01:45:25.000 And that's kind of the goal of what Inverted World wants to talk about.

01:45:28.000 Weird, mysteries, conspiracy, government tech, AI, all that stuff.

01:45:32.000 And so the plan is, in about two, and I think, maybe even just over a week, Inverted World is going to be Monday through Thursday at 10pm.

01:45:39.000 Oh, that's great.

01:45:40.000 And so after IRL ends, we will raid Tales from the Inverted World.

01:45:44.000 So for those that are kind of burned out on all the news and politics, and you want to talk about Sasquatch, aliens, and interdimensional beings, there will be a chill.

01:45:54.000 I love that.

01:45:56.000 But that also means Friday we don't have anything, and we've tried this before, like, to raid other shows, you know?

01:46:04.000 So, there you go.

01:46:06.000 Alright, what do we got here?

01:46:09.000 ReadyToRumble says, Tim is a terrible boss.

01:46:11.000 He does not work hard.

01:46:12.000 He reads in an air-conditioned room.

01:46:13.000 I'm a bricklayer.

01:46:14.000 I work hard.

01:46:15.000 Tim doesn't know what hard work is.

01:46:17.000 Heavens to Betsy, a bricklayer. 1.00

01:46:18.000 Bro, you wouldn't know hard work. 1.00

01:46:20.000 Relative to what I do, if it bit you on the arse. 0.99

01:46:24.000 I wish, you know, like I had this thing in October where I was like, I should quit. 0.99

01:46:29.000 I don't want to do this anymore.

01:46:30.000 It's too hard.

01:46:31.000 Working 16-hour days, getting sued left and right, having people come to your house, threaten to murder you.

01:46:36.000 Man, to be a simple bricklayer, it's almost like that famous quote, better to be a fisherman than trifling the affairs of men.

01:46:45.000 I don't think you could do that.

01:46:46.000 I think we'd go fish and then we'd want to come back to doing what we're doing.

01:46:50.000 You know, I was talking to Bill Maher and one of the first things he's brought up, he's like, you know, I hear that you want to quit.

01:46:57.000 And I was like, oh yeah.

01:46:58.000 He's like, what about your wife?

01:46:59.000 Does she want you to quit? 0.96

01:47:00.000 Does she enjoy this?

01:47:01.000 And I was like, yeah, she wants to quit. 1.00

01:47:02.000 And he was like, are you going to do it?

01:47:03.000 I was like, yes.

01:47:04.000 And then he laughs.

01:47:05.000 And then I hear in the production room after the show, they told me they were like laughing too because they know it's not true.

01:47:11.000 But my point was, You know, so I recommend you guys watch the Bill Maher episode when it comes out because I thought he was very nice.

01:47:18.000 He was very respectful.

01:47:18.000 It was not like most of the liberals we talked to, and I thought he was great.

01:47:22.000 Even when we disagreed, he laughed about it, and it was good.

01:47:26.000 But he was just like, you know, if you walk away from it, the audience walks away as well, and they don't come back.

01:47:34.000 Some might, but they don't come back.

01:47:35.000 So don't give up what you have.

01:47:36.000 Enjoy it.

01:47:37.000 And I'm thinking to myself, no, that's kind of the point, you know?

01:47:42.000 There's a certain degree of – I told him my wife and I feel obligated that she runs the administrative side of things.

01:47:51.000 None of this would exist without her.

01:47:53.000 She – like the taxes, the paperwork, the filing, the employment, HR. 0.99

01:47:56.000 Like she runs the business.

01:47:58.000 I'm just a guy who complains on the camera.

01:47:59.000 I complain on the internet.

01:48:00.000 And we both work way too much, 16-hour days.

01:48:04.000 But when we've talked about should we just be happy that we've succeeded and now we can go live in Wyoming and just – Live on a ranch.

01:48:13.000 We both agree.

01:48:14.000 We owe everyone.

01:48:16.000 You have a responsibility to your audience.

01:48:19.000 You have a responsibility.

01:48:21.000 To all of them.

01:48:21.000 It's that we've gotten these nice things and to take the money now and say we're walking away would feel like stealing.

01:48:28.000 Like the life we've been afforded through our hard work is not a gift.

01:48:33.000 It's a purchase.

01:48:34.000 It is we need what you do and we will support you so long as you keep doing it.

01:48:40.000 And that's the obligation.

01:48:41.000 Have you seen these comments about O 'Keefe media on the internet where they're like, we need you to get this.

01:48:47.000 We need you to do this for free.

01:48:49.000 It's like people feel entitled.

01:48:50.000 You know what I'm talking about?

01:48:51.000 Of course.

01:48:52.000 They feel entitled to my labor, which is also a communist.

01:48:55.000 It's like saying I deserve free healthcare.

01:48:57.000 You're forcing someone else to work.

01:48:58.000 Well, this comment's communist too.

01:49:01.000 The bricklayer works harder than the CEO of a company who works 16 hours a day on weekends.

01:49:05.000 And it's just like...

01:49:08.000 Who gets swatted?

01:49:09.000 Bro, I understand laying bricks is hard.

01:49:10.000 And it's fascinating because the left, their principal argument, they love to make things up.

01:49:15.000 They say, Tim's never worked a real day of labor in his life.

01:49:18.000 I worked for two years as a ramp agent at O 'Hare Airport.

01:49:20.000 I lifted 50,000 pounds of luggage every single day.

01:49:23.000 And we count because we have load manifests and we actually track the weight of the luggage and we add them up at the end of every day.

01:49:29.000 And it's like 13,000 pounds of luggage every flight that we're lifting up and pulling on and off.

01:49:35.000 And yeah.

01:49:36.000 It was brutal, and the pay was bad.

01:49:38.000 And, you know, I gotta be honest.

01:49:42.000 Still easier.

01:49:43.000 You know, can we talk about, though, how it probably does look really easy for people who see the finished product?

01:49:49.000 I'm sure sometimes you wish people could see everything that goes on behind the scenes, what's right off camera.

01:49:54.000 Because even like myself, I am nowhere near the level of any of these greats I'm at the table with from that standpoint on social media.

01:50:00.000 I know how difficult it is to get up and still work my normal job and then come home.

01:50:04.000 You have to edit, script write, produce, post-production.

01:50:07.000 All these things are super difficult to do.

01:50:09.000 But when the video is done, it looks really easy.

01:50:12.000 And I'm here to tell you, it is not easy to do what you do.

01:50:14.000 And for people who are good at it, you should be rewarded for that effort that you put out.

01:50:18.000 One of the most important points is he said getting sued.

01:50:22.000 Man, some of these people that – some of these woke, right, whatever, communist-esque people, whatever you want to call it.

01:50:29.000 I don't know if that's woke, right.

01:50:30.000 I'm not sure.

01:50:31.000 No, no.

01:50:31.000 That's a different – Woke, right are liberals.

01:50:33.000 Separate thing.

01:50:35.000 You get sued when you're the owner and the leader and you're the boss.

01:50:38.000 And these people who betrayed me, I'm still defending them in the courts.

01:50:43.000 I'm still indemnifying them.

01:50:45.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:50:46.000 Didn't Veritas pull the legal counsel for some of the guys?

01:50:49.000 Yeah, they pulled when the FBI – like when they fired me from Project Veritas, I still had to pay their legal bills while they were – What do you mean?

01:51:04.000 Have you ever been sued?

01:51:06.000 Oh, oh, sued personally?

01:51:07.000 Yeah, I name names.

01:51:09.000 Christian Hartsock, really great, talented guy, did the Democracy Partners story.

01:51:13.000 He wasn't named in a lawsuit.

01:51:15.000 I was sued.

01:51:16.000 So he's the one who recorded the thing of Bob Kramer, and they sued you.

01:51:21.000 I'm personally, I'm currently defending myself for what my employee did.

01:51:26.000 By the way, I'm not complaining.

01:51:27.000 I take that responsibility willingly.

01:51:30.000 And I'm happy to accept that responsibility.

01:51:33.000 What I don't accept is communist behavior, like what you're describing in the comments section.

01:51:39.000 And envy and resentment towards me because you didn't endure what I had to endure.

01:51:45.000 You didn't go through what I went through, getting sued, jury trials, sleeping on a couch, raising $100 from nothing, starting in my dad's garage, three years federal probation.

01:51:55.000 You didn't take those risks.

01:51:57.000 And what happens to people is they look at success and they think, oh, I can do that.

01:52:02.000 That's easy.

01:52:03.000 Yep.

01:52:03.000 And they give up.

01:52:05.000 They give up.

01:52:05.000 Oh, they're not strong enough.

01:52:07.000 They're not strong enough.

01:52:09.000 When I worked for Vice, everybody saw these videos we were putting out.

01:52:13.000 They're getting millions of views.

01:52:15.000 And I'd get emails from people saying, I want to do what you do.

01:52:17.000 The moment I actually explained...

01:52:21.000 They were like, nah.

01:52:22.000 I don't want to do that.

01:52:23.000 It's like, no.

01:52:24.000 What you want is the idea.

01:52:26.000 Tim, I got sued last week.

01:52:28.000 There's all these war stories.

01:52:29.000 I swear to God.

01:52:30.000 I'm not kidding.

01:52:31.000 I got sued last week by this guy inside the Pentagon that I recorded who was fired, FBI agent Jamie Menina.

01:52:37.000 He was doing things he shouldn't have done.

01:52:38.000 And the lawyer who's representing this guy, he's like, yeah, I'm a leftist. 0.66

01:52:42.000 I hate Trump.

01:52:43.000 Trump revoked my security clearance. 0.95

01:52:45.000 I just want to make O 'Keefe's life a living hell.

01:52:48.000 And I think that the lawsuits that we've dealt with are probably the hardest part about being a business owner, right?

01:52:54.000 The liabilities.

01:52:55.000 Man, you know, I don't want to say too much because we settle all of these and so there's orders on them.

01:53:03.000 But one of the hardest things about running a company is when you have employees who basically will burn down a building, take no responsibility, and then run.

01:53:17.000 And you're left standing over the smoldering ashes.

01:53:21.000 And then you're like, okay.

01:53:22.000 Nothing you can do about it.

01:53:24.000 People do this.

01:53:25.000 There are bad people out there.

01:53:26.000 Some people just want to watch the world burn.

01:53:28.000 Isn't that from a Batman movie?

01:53:31.000 Yep.

01:53:32.000 Let's grab some more.

01:53:36.000 Absolutely.

01:53:41.000 I'm a huge fan of Tunnel to Towers.

01:53:44.000 That is awesome.

01:53:45.000 Buying houses for moms and for wounded warriors and all that stuff.

01:53:50.000 They raise money by doing the run.

01:53:52.000 They do the run.

01:53:53.000 Yeah, super cool.

01:53:55.000 Mythos says Hamas Piker did call for the assassination of a U.S. senator directly.

01:54:00.000 Well, to be fair, he even got suspended for it, so I concede that point.

01:54:04.000 My point this morning about the assassination was that people were claiming Hassan was responsible for this guy taking this action.

01:54:13.000 I don't like this stochastic terrorism argument they throw at everybody.

01:54:17.000 So while I don't like Hassan's argument and I don't think he's a good person, I think he's disingenuous, I don't like hearing someone else is responsible because they had a bad opinion on the internet that may have driven someone to a point of extremism or something like that.

01:54:32.000 Hassan did say that about the senator.

01:54:34.000 Okay, I'll give you that one for sure.

01:54:35.000 My point is...

01:54:44.000 So I'm not going to pull the stochastic terrorism game. 0.73

01:54:48.000 I don't want to do it because I think it's illogical.

01:54:52.000 I think it's illogical.

01:54:55.000 I'm not going to defend his right to free speech.

01:54:57.000 I think it's silly that the ADL called for banning him.

01:54:59.000 If he got banned, I'd just chuckle and say, well, you know, you're not for free speech.

01:55:03.000 I'm not going to take time out of my day for you.

01:55:05.000 But anyway.

01:55:07.000 All right, what do we got?

01:55:08.000 What do we have here?

01:55:09.000 St. Miles says, what are the Fed prosecutors going to do about the second judge confronting the agents?

01:55:14.000 I don't think that rose to the level of impropriety, I guess, or illegal activity. 0.96

01:55:22.000 Misfit Brad says, maybe a collapse of our elite class would require the smartest of the mid-class to step into those roles, leaving the lazy and dumb to step into maintain the structure. 0.97

01:55:31.000 They will put Gatorade on crops. 0.99

01:55:33.000 Yep. 0.96

01:55:34.000 That's idiocracy.

01:55:35.000 Yep.

01:55:36.000 And so the funny thing is Veritas obviously succeeded because of whatever James O 'Keefe has.

01:55:45.000 And James O 'Keefe is a strange guy.

01:55:48.000 He DJs.

01:55:49.000 He moonwalks.

01:55:50.000 It's true.

01:55:50.000 He's an intrepid journalist.

01:55:51.000 It's a very weird combination, but it's okay.

01:55:53.000 He definitely throws good parties.

01:55:55.000 Throws the best parties, the biggest parties.

01:55:56.000 Thank you.

01:55:57.000 And whatever this is that comes together was the nexus for creating this organization, and they thought they could pull the nucleus from it.

01:56:05.000 And survive.

01:56:07.000 And they could not.

01:56:08.000 It's a dark part of human nature.

01:56:10.000 It's a dark part of human nature.

01:56:12.000 And it's a great film.

01:56:13.000 I've got to plug it again.

01:56:14.000 O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com.

01:56:16.000 The Truth Inside Veritas.

01:56:18.000 If you want to see the story.

01:56:21.000 I think it was the last time, or maybe the second to last time, I was on Joe's show.

01:56:25.000 Rogan.

01:56:26.000 He said something like, how much do you record per day or whatever?

01:56:29.000 And I was like, I think I'm doing about three hours.

01:56:32.000 And he's like, that's just three hours of work per day.

01:56:34.000 And I was like, Yeah, Joe, it's 12 hours of research, administrative.

01:56:38.000 And he was like, oh, oh, oh, oh.

01:56:40.000 Because Joe works a lot too.

01:56:44.000 But his podcast is conversational.

01:56:46.000 So he sits down, talks to someone, and then he says, okay, we're good.

01:56:49.000 And so I know that he does ad reads and there's a little bit more to it than that.

01:56:51.000 But his perspective is, you know, it's like it's a two-hour podcast.

01:56:55.000 It's three hours of work.

01:56:56.000 For me, it's like, no, it's three hours of reading news, three hours of recording.

01:57:02.000 Three hours of reading news.

01:57:03.000 And the production asset work you guys do, getting all these things lined up.

01:57:06.000 That's a lot of technical work, at least in our case.

01:57:09.000 But going back to the heart of darkness thing, this is a quote from Apocalypse Now.

01:57:13.000 And I think it's especially true to see people crack when people are the fragility and the adversity.

01:57:23.000 When you're faced with adversity.

01:57:26.000 In an institution where you're going after the most powerful people in the world, that reveals the true darker nature inside of people.

01:57:33.000 That really separates the men from the boys.

01:57:35.000 When the FBI comes a-knocking, when they start suing you, you can really tell the difference between someone who has integrity and character and weak.

01:57:44.000 And I've seen weak men – I don't know if there's a difference between weakness and evil because weakness makes men do things they don't want to do.

01:57:52.000 Like Peter Pettigrew.

01:57:54.000 Peter Pettigrew, yeah.

01:57:55.000 Absolutely.

01:57:56.000 See, millennials can only understand politics through the lens of Harry Potter, liberal ones. 0.65

01:58:01.000 I read all those books and watched all the movies.

01:58:03.000 But we were both liberals, you know, so we were very much entrenched.

01:58:06.000 So we can translate for the liberal millennials.

01:58:08.000 Peter Pettigrew was good friends with the Potters.

01:58:10.000 He was their secret keeper.

01:58:11.000 But he was weak and terrified of Voldemort, so he sold them out.

01:58:15.000 And then became evil, not because he wanted anything from the evil side, but because he was terrified of what they do to him. 0.87

01:58:20.000 And then he literally had to live his life as a rat man. 0.90

01:58:23.000 Right.

01:58:25.000 That's a great corollary. 0.95

01:58:26.000 His fingernails were disgusting, the whole thing.

01:58:27.000 Yeah, J.K. Rowling, she wrote some good stories. 0.55

01:58:30.000 She did write some good stories.

01:58:31.000 Yeah, I don't like the movies, like the new movies, the animals ones or whatever that is.

01:58:34.000 I think it's silly.

01:58:34.000 It's boring.

01:58:35.000 Yeah, boring and dumb. 1.00

01:58:36.000 Yeah, that's the problem with it. 1.00

01:58:37.000 It's boring.

01:58:37.000 I've been saying J.K. Rowling needs to write a sequel Harry Potter series where the villain is communist.

01:58:44.000 Because obviously Harry Potter is just about magic Hitler. 0.92

01:58:47.000 Voldemort's like, everyone should be magical, not non-magical, magic supremacy.

01:58:52.000 And it's like, yeah, we get it.

01:58:53.000 He's European Hitler. 0.91

01:58:54.000 He's a magic Europe Hitler, whatever. 0.89

01:58:56.000 Or I didn't even say Europe, just magic Hitler. 0.91

01:58:58.000 But she should do one where it's magic Stalin, where one of the magic nations colludes with governments.

01:59:05.000 To develop technology that can suppress or deflect magic spells because they believe no one should be able to have magic because it puts them above and they're oppressors.

01:59:13.000 Oh yeah, it'd be like that Vonnegut Harrison Bergeron?

01:59:16.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:59:18.000 The idea being that you get a new villain who believes that people with magic powers oppress those without.

01:59:23.000 And so they conspire with governments of the muggle world to go to war and oppress and strip the powers away from magic people. 1.00

01:59:31.000 I think of Harrison Bergeron every day because I'll be sitting there writing and my cat will come over and start meowing and I'll be like, stop erasing my thoughts.

01:59:41.000 That's a good story.

01:59:43.000 You should read it if you hadn't.

01:59:44.000 What was it?

01:59:46.000 Athletic people had to carry weights?

01:59:47.000 Yeah.

01:59:48.000 The ballerina, like, they broke her legs because she wasn't so good at dancing. 1.00

01:59:53.000 Ridiculous. 0.97

01:59:53.000 Yep. 0.97

01:59:54.000 Shannon Swalder says the Konami code is up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start.

02:00:00.000 Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, start.

02:00:02.000 Contra, 99 lives.

02:00:03.000 I kind of love that everybody knows this. 0.63

02:00:04.000 I know a lot of useless stuff, too.

02:00:07.000 I have no idea. 0.53

02:00:08.000 Yep.

02:00:09.000 I used to know only useless stuff about plays and theater and, like, what different kinds of lights were called and, like, what happens in the seagull.

02:00:17.000 And now I know a lot of useless stuff about politics.

02:00:21.000 Good for trivia night one day.

02:00:22.000 One day it'll come in handy.

02:00:24.000 It comes in handy on the show, and I'm like, oh, I knew that.

02:00:27.000 Okay.

02:00:28.000 Okay, let's see what else we have in the old chat box.

02:00:33.000 Devin Portis says a magnetic pole shift won't create a cataclysmic continental shift.

02:00:37.000 It would take a magnetic field several times stronger than a magnetar to move the Earth's crust one inch in any direction.

02:00:44.000 The Earth's magnetic field is 25k to 166k, weaker than an MRI machine.

02:00:49.000 I'm talking about Adam and Eve's story.

02:00:50.000 It's a magnetron.

02:00:51.000 The Adam and Eve...

02:00:54.000 Yeah.

02:00:54.000 Or whatever?

02:00:54.000 I heard about that.

02:00:55.000 A magnetron?

02:00:56.000 Yeah.

02:00:56.000 It's the Adam and Eve conspiracy theory.

02:00:58.000 A magnetar.

02:00:59.000 I have all the questions.

02:00:59.000 A magnetar is a magnetic star or something?

02:01:02.000 Every 6,500 years, there's a pole shift and it destroys civilization. 1.00

02:01:06.000 The planet tilts and moves in a different direction.

02:01:09.000 Here's what I think is possible, though.

02:01:12.000 You ever see that thing they do in space where they take the T-shaped tool and they spin it and then it periodically will flip the other direction?

02:01:18.000 Could be like that. 0.99

02:01:20.000 Or I'm talking about my ass, and I have no idea. 0.99

02:01:21.000 I'm not a scientist, and I have no idea. 0.99

02:01:24.000 But there are a lot of people that believe the poles are shifting now, and there are several news reports, even CNN reported it, the poles have shifted.

02:01:32.000 They're moving.

02:01:33.000 So an interesting thing happened where the North Pole shifted a bit too far, and then instruments for aviation were wrong.

02:01:42.000 That's why the compass got weird, right?

02:01:44.000 Is that what it was?

02:01:45.000 Yeah.

02:01:45.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:01:47.000 There are—the Adam and Eve theorists believe that we're on the verge of a cataclysmic pole shift where the poles will flip, but in the process the planet will twist and tilt down.

02:01:58.000 And South America on the globe like this will be like this along the equator going around.

02:02:05.000 The South Pole becomes at the equator.

02:02:10.000 The—like Florida will be—Canada will— I think, what happens?

02:02:14.000 Canada, it's going to be long ways.

02:02:17.000 It's going to be tilting.

02:02:18.000 So I think what happens is Florida ends up near the equator or something like that.

02:02:22.000 It's already hot down there.

02:02:24.000 Florida's already close.

02:02:24.000 Yeah.

02:02:25.000 Wouldn't Florida?

02:02:25.000 Yeah.

02:02:26.000 So if North and South America are like this and it goes like this, then Florida is slightly north of the equator.

02:02:35.000 Yeah.

02:02:36.000 Would be slightly north.

02:02:36.000 And then California would be cold.

02:02:39.000 California would be like Canada.

02:02:41.000 That's what they deserve.

02:02:44.000 Well, to be fair, they already are like Canada in other ways.

02:02:46.000 Right, exactly.

02:02:47.000 My friends, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

02:02:51.000 It is Memorial Day weekend, okay?

02:02:54.000 And it is to honor those who have sacrificed everything so that we can relax, have a beer and a burger and – And so we remember that.

02:03:08.000 And we get an extra – we get a time to relax.

02:03:10.000 But it's the gift they've given us.

02:03:13.000 It's not the three-day weekend like Kamala shouted out and everyone got mad about.

02:03:17.000 So I hope you do have a good time and I hope you remember why.

02:03:19.000 Smash the like button.

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02:03:24.000 General, would you like to start and shut something out?

02:03:27.000 Sure.

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02:03:33.000 Doing my best to just do my part to speak the truth to whoever will listen.

02:03:38.000 James O 'Keefe here.

02:03:40.000 Watch the new film, The Truth Inside Veritas, part one.

02:03:44.000 The Truth Inside Veritas, O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com.

02:03:47.000 Subscribe at O 'KeefeMediaGroup.com to see what really happened inside Project Veritas.

02:03:52.000 You won't want to miss this.

02:03:54.000 It's really well made.

02:03:56.000 Thank you.

02:03:57.000 I was like, why don't we have a production team like James O 'Keefe?

02:03:59.000 How are you going to have a production team like James O 'Keefe?

02:04:02.000 I'm not talking about the undercover.

02:04:03.000 Tell me your reaction to the film.

02:04:05.000 Oh, it was an entertaining film.

02:04:09.000 The music, the editing, everything you guys did in it, I was entertained.

02:04:16.000 You guys did a good job.

02:04:17.000 I looked at my wife and I was like, we've got to get a team that can do videos like this.

02:04:22.000 Because we're very much live.

02:04:23.000 It's a lot of work, man.

02:04:25.000 I know.

02:04:25.000 It took us two months to make that hour-long film.

02:04:27.000 That's it?

02:04:28.000 Broke paintings.

02:04:30.000 Well, yeah, we didn't have to go to the desert and chase the cartel down like we did.

02:04:33.000 The fight scene between you and the giant lizard, I was...

02:04:40.000 Right, they actually made the giant lizard in a giant land.

02:04:43.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

02:04:45.000 You can check out everything we're doing at thepostmillennial.com.

02:04:48.000 And humanevents.com.

02:04:50.000 And I would love if you subscribe to my newsletter.

02:04:52.000 I write it up every day and send it out.

02:04:54.000 And people seem to like it, which I'm very grateful for.

02:04:56.000 And you can subscribe to that at thepostmillennial.com slash Libby.

02:05:01.000 And I just want to thank our sponsor this month, Merriweather Farms.

02:05:04.000 I've really appreciated it.

02:05:06.000 Well, before we go, one more Super Chat from Viral Syndicate, because he says, Phil skipped my Super Chat the other day.

02:05:10.000 I don't think it was intentional.

02:05:11.000 We read as many as we can.

02:05:13.000 But he did say, May 18th marked eight years since Chris Cornell passed.

02:05:16.000 In two months is Chester Bennington, Just Keeping Them Alive, Rest in Peace, Mental Health Awareness.

02:05:23.000 And Hybrid Theory is one of the best albums ever.

02:05:27.000 And Chris Cornell was a genius.

02:05:29.000 And Like a Stone is one of the greatest songs, if not the greatest song ever written.

02:05:33.000 I'm not kidding.

02:05:34.000 And I am surprised.

02:05:35.000 So many people who are Christian have not listened to that song.

02:05:38.000 So aside from being a good song, I definitely recommend you listen to that one and really listen to the lyrics.

02:05:44.000 Thank you all for hanging out, and we're back on Tuesday.

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