Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - White House Drops ALIENS.GOV, Saying THEY WALK AMONG US | Timcast IRL

00:02:35.000 The White House has finally published aliens.gov, declassified, saying they walk among us.

00:02:44.000 For 60 years, no president has done anything about the aliens in this country.

00:02:52.000 And I am going to say this right off the bat I was right the whole time. 0.97

00:02:56.000 I was right. 0.62

00:02:58.000 He's talking about illegal aliens.

00:03:00.000 Aliens.gov is about illegal aliens.

00:03:00.000 That's right.

00:03:04.000 The whole website is.

00:03:05.000 Leads you on, dragging it out.

00:03:07.000 And then finally, at the bottom, it's like only Donald Trump has taken action against the aliens who are in our classrooms and in our places of work and walking among us and are now being deported back to their home countries.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, aliens.gov is meant to look like space aliens, and that whole thing is just illegal aliens. 0.56

00:03:27.000 They were just screwing with everybody.

00:03:30.000 But that being said, there's a new movie coming out called Disclosure Day, and conspiracy theorists believe that there will be.

00:03:37.000 Actual alien disclosure.

00:03:39.000 So, we can at least talk somewhat about all of that.

00:03:41.000 Now, the big news today outside of this, this really was the most general interest story, to be honest. 0.99

00:03:46.000 But Amy Coney Barrett, sitting Supreme Court Justice, was swatted.

00:03:49.000 A man was arrested for threatening to murder Erica Kirk.

00:03:53.000 And we have the active insurrection outside of the Newark ICE facility, where employees of this facility have deferred authority to the extremists.

00:04:01.000 Not an exaggeration.

00:04:04.000 There are viral videos showing the employees asking the activists, the insurgents, and the terrorists for permission.

00:04:12.000 Calling them up to search the ICE vehicles before being allowed to pass.

00:04:17.000 This is extremely dangerous.

00:04:20.000 I'll put it like that.

00:04:22.000 Extremely dangerous.

00:04:22.000 So, we're going to talk about that and many, many more big stories as it's getting crazy out there.

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00:08:49.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, of course, is Will Chamberlain.

00:08:53.000 Good to be with you guys.

00:08:55.000 I'm senior counsel of the Article 3 Project, but I'm not here in that capacity today because I'm wearing a campaign t shirt.

00:09:00.000 Yeah, you don't like Thomas Massey, huh?

00:09:00.000 So can't.

00:09:03.000 Wait, did he lose?

00:09:05.000 Indeed, he did lose.

00:09:06.000 He lost, yeah.

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00:09:12.000 Well, he won, you know.

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00:09:17.000 What's going on?

00:09:18.000 Was the shirt bought before the primary?

00:09:20.000 No, no, I bought the shirt like last week.

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00:09:26.000 I have concerns about Galrain, though, because when I went to his farm's Instagram, there were no chickens.

00:09:30.000 Oh, really?

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00:09:32.000 If it were that easy to win your endorsement, I'm sure that's not in touch.

00:09:37.000 Well, you know, Messi's got chickens.

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00:09:43.000 He built this automated solar powered chicken coop system that moves.

00:09:47.000 I mean, it's brilliant.

00:09:48.000 And, you know, I have questions.

00:09:49.000 But anyway, Ian's hanging out.

00:09:49.000 I have questions.

00:09:51.000 Hey, guys.

00:09:52.000 That was what you said, Tim, is very true about community, ma'am.

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00:11:09.000 Bro, listen, you got these WEF guys who are like, people shouldn't eat meat, so we should get this tick that makes you allergic to meat.

00:11:17.000 And I'm just like, I don't believe anything they say about meat.

00:11:19.000 You know, when they're like, did you know that farmers like mercilessly beat the cows?

00:11:23.000 I'm like, I don't believe you because you are advocating for forcing people to develop allergies to meat.

00:11:28.000 But anyway, let's get to the news.

00:11:30.000 We'll get into all that stuff.

00:11:31.000 Carter, of course, pressing all the buttons.

00:11:33.000 We've got this, my friends, from whitehouse.govslash aliens.

00:11:37.000 In fact, if you go to aliens.gov, they walk among us.

00:11:40.000 I knew it.

00:11:41.000 And it says declassified.

00:11:43.000 And it was funny because they dropped this today.

00:11:46.000 And actually, the people at the White House reached out to our communications people like, hey, we released this.

00:11:52.000 And I get a text message with the link, and I immediately say to my wife, I'm like, oh, the White House has just confirmed aliens exist.

00:11:59.000 And then I wanted to know what my wife was going to say when I told her this.

00:12:02.000 And she just chuckled, oh, yeah.

00:12:05.000 Like, this was the idea that if they ever did actually announce aliens were real, no one would care.

00:12:10.000 And then I said, well, they published the website, but I haven't read it yet.

00:12:13.000 And then as soon as I opened it up, I was like, it's illegal aliens. 0.70

00:12:16.000 But this is what we were saying before.

00:12:19.000 When they first registered aliens.gov and it became a big news story, we said on this show, It's either going to be just like generic UFO disclosure, but I'm willing to bet it's going to be like illegal aliens, right?

00:12:29.000 That's Trump's whole thing.

00:12:31.000 So they run this gag.

00:12:33.000 Take a look.

00:12:33.000 They walk among us.

00:12:34.000 For 60 years, the U.S. government has kept a closely guarded secret.

00:12:38.000 Aliens have been walking among us, living in our neighborhoods, interacting with us in our daily lives.

00:12:43.000 They've shopped in the same stores, attended the same class as our children, and lived seemingly normal human existences.

00:12:50.000 With one exception, they do not belong here.

00:12:53.000 Millions arrived under the cover of darkness, embedded themselves directly into our society.

00:12:58.000 Countless presidents, congressmen, and senior officials knew exactly what was happening.

00:13:01.000 Instead of protecting American citizens, they chose to cover it up and even accelerate the invasion.

00:13:06.000 Until one man finally had the courage to tell the truth.

00:13:09.000 That's right.

00:13:10.000 Bold, unapologetic, and unafraid, President Trump was the first to call up the real danger aliens pose to every American family. 0.79

00:13:17.000 The truth is no longer out there, it is here right now.

00:13:21.000 3,130,217 encounters.

00:13:25.000 Alien arrest map live.

00:13:27.000 Indeed.

00:13:29.000 Martinsburg, West Virginia, criminal charges, assault, burglary, damage to property, dangerous drugs, countries of origin, Afghanistan.

00:13:38.000 So I wonder if all of the UFO alien talk was actually just to generate a bunch of buzz as a joke.

00:13:47.000 Because I just want to say this doesn't help them in any meaningful way.

00:13:52.000 It's not advocacy against illegal immigration, it does generate attention toward the issue.

00:13:58.000 Maybe they were waiting to drop this.

00:14:00.000 Around the time, like something bad with the Iran war was happening, or something.

00:14:03.000 But I see this as kind of just they made a joke.

00:14:07.000 If they were really smart, they were sitting around a boardroom, like, all right, we're going to put out the alien thing.

00:14:11.000 Either we're going to sigh up the planet and control these people with fear.

00:14:15.000 If that doesn't work, we'll just make it an illegal alien website.

00:14:18.000 They really are, man.

00:14:19.000 That probably unironically is the strat.

00:14:21.000 I mean, I think that, you know, the whole, well, I mean, Area 51, my understanding is it's actually just a military base.

00:14:25.000 They don't want anybody going near.

00:14:27.000 So they're like aliens.

00:14:28.000 Yeah.

00:14:29.000 But they're like, no, actually, we just do secret things.

00:14:29.000 Right.

00:14:31.000 I think they planned like the bin Laden raid there or something. 0.95

00:14:33.000 They built the model of his house.

00:14:35.000 That kind of, so you need places that nobody wants to go anywhere near that are owned by the government.

00:14:41.000 Aliens seem like.

00:14:41.000 Right.

00:14:42.000 And after that whole Chinese weather balloon thing, it was so embarrassing that they need like the UFOs for plausible deniability. 0.98

00:14:47.000 Like, oh, we can't, we don't know what it is. 0.86

00:14:49.000 One of my favorite conspiracy theories, of course, is Terra Infinita.

00:14:52.000 Are you familiar with that one?

00:14:54.000 So, or Greater Earth Theory.

00:14:56.000 Have you ever heard this one?

00:14:57.000 I say that very carefully because there's Crater Earth.

00:15:00.000 Okay, let's have some fun with it, boys.

00:15:03.000 Crater Earth's delusional.

00:15:04.000 You know, Greater Earth's where it's at.

00:15:05.000 Do you know what Crater Earth is? 1.00

00:15:07.000 It's just a motherfucker. 0.99

00:15:07.000 Okay, the Crater Earth conspiracy theory is that the moon is a reflection of Earth. 0.99

00:15:12.000 And that the world as we know it exists within one of the craters on the moon that we're looking at.

00:15:18.000 And there's an ice wall and all this whatever nonsense.

00:15:20.000 It's like Terra Infinita is that there's this gigantic flat plane with a whole bunch of like ice walled in communities controlled by aliens or something.

00:15:29.000 I don't know.

00:15:30.000 Greater Earth is that there is a spherical planet, the continents that we know, it's on a round planet, but it's only a small piece of the planet and surrounded by an ice wall.

00:15:42.000 We are kept in and kept as slaves.

00:15:43.000 I love this one because now.

00:15:45.000 It's tying into one of these Charlie Kirk conspiracy theories, which is there is a new Charlie Kirk conspiracy theory that he's actually on the island of Valhalla in Greater Earth, where our governmental elites go once they retire from office and leave, and we are all slaves trapped within the inner continents and the ice wall.

00:16:07.000 And so I saw this video where they were like, Remember when Kash Patel said, I'll see you in Valhalla?

00:16:12.000 And then they showed like the Tyler Robinson image where he's looking at a computer and the computer has an image of an island with a With a mountain called Valhalla or whatever.

00:16:22.000 And so they're saying that Charlie Kirk's actually still alive.

00:16:24.000 He escaped to outside, you know, he elevated out of the inner continents.

00:16:29.000 Now he lives in a place called Valhalla where there's regular people, and Cash is going to go there too.

00:16:35.000 Yeah, like Cash dropped and he said, like, see you in Valhalla, and then he got pulled aside after the speech.

00:16:38.000 And they're like, dude, why'd you say this?

00:16:40.000 I don't know.

00:16:41.000 No one will believe it anyway.

00:16:41.000 It slipped.

00:16:43.000 Yeah.

00:16:44.000 Maybe they'll just hand wave it away because conspiracy theories seem very inefficient, right?

00:16:48.000 Like, there's a way in which, like, It's much more complicated to rule over humanity than it is today.

00:16:55.000 Right.

00:16:56.000 Couldn't you just do something matrix like where you just put us all in a battery farm?

00:16:59.000 Like, if that's the plan to make it?

00:17:01.000 Well, the idea is that humans revolt.

00:17:05.000 So if you keep them ignorant, the saying is from Harriet Tubman, I freed many slaves.

00:17:10.000 I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves.

00:17:12.000 So the conspiracy theory is that we are the lesser slave peasant humans trapped within the inner continents of an ice wall.

00:17:21.000 Our powerful elites.

00:17:23.000 Are they liaising between greater earth and us and keep us ejected?

00:17:28.000 That's why our politicians never do what we want.

00:17:30.000 That's why they won't pass the Save Act.

00:17:33.000 See, now you're a believer.

00:17:36.000 And now he believes it.

00:17:38.000 And they drop super helpful clues, like just to kind of spice things up.

00:17:41.000 Like the Egyptian planes are coming in. 0.91

00:17:43.000 They're like, should we not appear on the radar? 0.98

00:17:45.000 And they're like, no, this is like, give them a little taste here of what we're up to.

00:17:49.000 Yeah, like that.

00:17:50.000 Drop a little.

00:17:51.000 Is the ice wall like an extrapolation of the firmament?

00:17:54.000 Is that where this?

00:17:54.000 Because I hear a lot about ice walls and different conspiracy theories.

00:17:57.000 Well, there's somewhat of an ideological relation, but they're different things.

00:18:02.000 Yeah, it's like liquid, I think.

00:18:04.000 Because the ice wall isn't just part of one worldview, right?

00:18:08.000 Flat earthers think the oceans are held in by a great wall of ice and the governments of the world are stopping you from going there or whatever.

00:18:15.000 Maybe back in the day, after the flood, there was a great ice age.

00:18:18.000 Like we're at the tail end of an ice age right now in an interglacial period, but maybe they were literally walled in by ice by like 15,000 years ago or something.

00:18:27.000 And so now they just, that story's persisted.

00:18:30.000 Uh huh.

00:18:31.000 Like in the North Atlantic, frozen all the way down and they couldn't get out of Europe.

00:18:36.000 You know, I mean, if you were a government doing that, you'd just stop funding like space travel.

00:18:39.000 Right.

00:18:40.000 But that's the conspiracy theory.

00:18:40.000 Wouldn't use it.

00:18:41.000 There is no space travel.

00:18:42.000 There is no space travel.

00:18:44.000 All private companies, satellites, everything.

00:18:47.000 It's all fake.

00:18:48.000 All fake.

00:18:50.000 I'll keep you guessing.

00:18:51.000 Gosh, it's weird.

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 Again, very.

00:18:53.000 Elon Musk, the whole thing, you know, it's just they made it up.

00:18:57.000 There's stars.

00:18:59.000 Why did they let the Republicans win?

00:19:02.000 They could have screwed over Elon.

00:19:03.000 And I mean, maybe not.

00:19:04.000 Because they're all in on it.

00:19:05.000 That's why they named him Trump.

00:19:06.000 Yeah.

00:19:06.000 That's why they won't pass the Save Act.

00:19:08.000 Right.

00:19:09.000 They're like, no, we can't do this.

00:19:10.000 I feel like there's a simpler explanation for why the SAVE Act isn't passing.

00:19:13.000 What is it?

00:19:13.000 Simulation.

00:19:15.000 A filibuster?

00:19:16.000 The funny thing is, they wouldn't actually need to do or not do anything.

00:19:22.000 They could pass any law they want.

00:19:23.000 If there was truly absolute conspiratorial control of everything, they'd just tell you whatever you wanted to hear.

00:19:28.000 Do we want to talk about why the SAVE Act is not passing?

00:19:30.000 Is it actually a big thing?

00:19:32.000 What's up?

00:19:32.000 Okay.

00:19:33.000 I mean, obviously, it's the filibuster, right?

00:19:35.000 Yeah, but they could just.

00:19:35.000 And the question is, why don't they get rid of the filibuster?

00:19:37.000 Right?

00:19:37.000 Exactly.

00:19:38.000 And the reason is actually pretty simple, even among like sort of more conservative Republicans in the Senate.

00:19:43.000 And this is coming from talking to senior officials who basically say if you got rid of the filibuster, you'd be more likely to get a broad amnesty than you would be to get the SAVE Act passed.

00:19:54.000 Meaning, you do not have 53 votes for the SAVE Act, even in a world where you do it.

00:19:58.000 But you know what you have 53 or 54 votes for?

00:20:01.000 Open borders. 0.68

00:20:02.000 Right.

00:20:03.000 And that's, yeah, I mean, in a world.

00:20:05.000 But the argument is if you pass the SAVE Act now, you prevent them from taking power.

00:20:09.000 And if they take power, they're going to grant amnesty anyway.

00:20:12.000 Well, I mean, I guess my point is like the conservative, you know.

00:20:16.000 The filibuster effectively insulates.

00:20:20.000 I mean, there's a lot of reasons why the filibuster stays in place, mainly because we worry that Democrats will obviously get rid of the filibuster first thing.

00:20:29.000 Maybe they will, maybe they won't.

00:20:31.000 After talking to people, I'm not so sure they will because I think there are a decent number of moderate senators on the Democrat side who are scared about what Republicans will end up doing with the filibuster.

00:20:38.000 It'll just lead to this ping ponging of policy back and forth.

00:20:44.000 But that's the core reason.

00:20:45.000 There are not 60 votes, and there's There's, I think they polled the Republican Senate caucus on getting rid of the filibuster, like informally.

00:20:53.000 And my understanding was that poll showed that they got maybe one in four yes to getting rid of the filibuster, a good three quarters of the caucus.

00:20:59.000 I've heard a lot of people speculate that part of the reason the Save Act is getting held up is because it's something that a lot more establishment candidates will utilize some sort of maybe more nefarious, shady election tactics to push through primaries.

00:21:13.000 I mean, it's really there are just a few, the squishier Republicans don't want to do it.

00:21:17.000 Like Mitch McConnell has made trying to keep the federal government out of state elections a big part of his.

00:21:21.000 Project for a long time because previously it was Democrats trying to interfere in Republican elections to make them more favored.

00:21:29.000 I really don't care about the Save Act at this point because I think we're beyond this as a country.

00:21:34.000 I think we are beyond the point where procedural victories matter.

00:21:39.000 Well, here is actually, I have a thesis about this.

00:21:41.000 I think that here's the reason not to do it just for the Save Act.

00:21:45.000 If you get rid of the filibuster, it would be a very big one time event where Republicans have the chance to do a whole bunch and put in place a huge program with a 50 seat majority, right?

00:21:56.000 Like, finally, we've gotten rid of the 60 vote rule in the Senate.

00:22:00.000 We can do a whole bunch of stuff.

00:22:01.000 Why would we just do one thing?

00:22:03.000 And if we're only ready to do just one.

00:22:05.000 What I'm saying is, when you look at the funding, the DNC is $3 million in debt.

00:22:10.000 They got $14 million cash on hand and $17 million in debt.

00:22:13.000 Republicans have $200 million, and big Democrat donors are not funding the party as a whole.

00:22:19.000 They're either targeting specific races or they're funding activism, NGOs, and extremism.

00:22:25.000 I think that many of the high profile Democrat aligned donors have realized institutional paths to victory are gone.

00:22:35.000 Republicans are going for institutional victories.

00:22:37.000 They're going for redistricting.

00:22:38.000 They're financing races and the Republican Party itself.

00:22:41.000 And Democrats are funding Cuba trips and Antifa and violence.

00:22:46.000 When you take a look at what's going on with Newark, where you get federal employees deferring their authority to the extremists, it looks like the strategy among the elites on the liberal side are saying, we need to go hot in terms of winning power.

00:23:02.000 And Republicans are saying, we're going to win legitimate institutional authority.

00:23:06.000 So this is why I say, I don't know that the SAVE Act matters as much right now because Democrats are not putting their resources into those races.

00:23:14.000 I think, I mean, I don't know that the SAVE Act would, I mean, how would the SAVE Act affect resources?

00:23:19.000 The SAVE Act is all about.

00:23:20.000 No, no, no.

00:23:21.000 The question is what are the Democrats applying their, what are they focused on in order to win power?

00:23:27.000 It's not electoral victories.

00:23:29.000 I mean, no, I think, certainly I think the institutional Democratic Party and Democratic donors are.

00:23:35.000 I think the donor problem is actually.

00:23:37.000 They're split.

00:23:38.000 Well, there's two classes of donors.

00:23:40.000 There's the activist donors, the Neville Singham types.

00:23:43.000 They're not really donating to the Democrat Party because they'd rather, you know, fund communism. 0.70

00:23:48.000 And then there's the sort of classic institutional Democratic donors, many of whom are Jews and are really not happy about the way things have been going in the Democratic Party and are not opening their checkbooks. 0.66

00:23:57.000 Centrally, the Democrats are not, as a party, raising money. 0.71

00:24:00.000 The donors are not interested in a centralized institutional Democratic power anymore.

00:24:05.000 So if we're breaking this down, Republicans are basically all saying, Give the party money, give Trump money.

00:24:12.000 We're going to win.

00:24:12.000 We're going to win the midterms.

00:24:13.000 Democrats are split, where some are saying, let's make sure this one guy wins.

00:24:18.000 The others are saying, let's have Antifa march to the streets and bash skulls.

00:24:22.000 So, my point ultimately is the strategy of Democrats right now for the midterms is not, we are going to get out the vote.

00:24:31.000 It's terrorize, vandalize.

00:24:33.000 And the Republicans are going procedural.

00:24:35.000 That's why I say I don't know that SAVEC matters as much right now.

00:24:38.000 The Republicans, I think, honestly, I think with Virginia, So, Trump shutters USAID, cuts off funding for a lot of this circuitous NGO illicit funding.

00:24:49.000 Democrats, deep state, I should call it, are routed, go to Virginia, try to short their defenses, get crushed again.

00:24:55.000 And I think they've basically resigned themselves to, we are not going to beat Trump at this game.

00:25:00.000 I don't know if you saw the Trump won that lawsuit, or not that he won the lawsuit, but the judge sided with Trump on the executive order over the post office.

00:25:08.000 You saw this?

00:25:09.000 Over the post office?

00:25:11.000 You mean the citizenship question on the census?

00:25:13.000 Trump signed the executive order.

00:25:13.000 No, no, no.

00:25:14.000 Executive order instructing the post office not to deliver mail in ballots to people who are ineligible to vote, creating a de facto voter list.

00:25:23.000 Was this like yesterday?

00:25:23.000 Was this the thing?

00:25:24.000 Two days ago, I believe.

00:25:25.000 Two days ago?

00:25:26.000 It was this week.

00:25:27.000 I thought it was yesterday or today.

00:25:30.000 I wouldn't read too much into that.

00:25:31.000 I think he just denied it because it was not.

00:25:34.000 No, no, no.

00:25:35.000 It's amazing.

00:25:35.000 The ripeness issue, right?

00:25:36.000 The judge said there is no relief to be provided because Trump hasn't done anything yet.

00:25:41.000 Right.

00:25:41.000 That's ripeness.

00:25:42.000 You know why that's retarded and hilarious at the same time? 1.00

00:25:45.000 Because that was the basic argument used against Trump in 2020 when Republican groups and the Trump sphere were suing over the changes to the electoral system. 0.96

00:25:55.000 These judges kept saying, Not ripe yet.

00:25:57.000 They haven't done anything yet.

00:25:58.000 Yeah.

00:25:59.000 So how do we remedy no damages?

00:26:02.000 And it's funny because the Republicans are like, they changed the rules illicitly and it's going to have an impact on the election.

00:26:08.000 And the judges would go, well, if it does, we can then provide relief after the fact.

00:26:14.000 And then what happened when it did have an impact and the Republicans sued?

00:26:19.000 What did the judges say then?

00:26:20.000 And it was moot because it was too late to do anything.

00:26:22.000 It already happened!

00:26:22.000 Yes!

00:26:23.000 We can't do anything about it now.

00:26:24.000 This is insanity!

00:26:25.000 You can have a legal evolution where you can have a preemptive defect.

00:26:29.000 What did you call it?

00:26:29.000 A preemptive remedy?

00:26:32.000 A preemptive remedy that Triggers when. 0.72

00:26:34.000 Well, there's. 1.00

00:26:35.000 You don't get an injunction, right?

00:26:37.000 You get to stop somebody from doing something.

00:26:38.000 You can get declaratory relief, which is where the judge declares some legal state of affairs, like declares your statement not defamatory.

00:26:46.000 So, why are they not going for injunctions when they're trying to get.

00:26:49.000 Well, I mean, I think they were trying to go for an injunction.

00:26:51.000 They just didn't get an injunction because the judge said the dispute was not right, right?

00:26:57.000 So, here's the analogy that I give.

00:27:01.000 So, there's two little boys Jimmy and Johnny.

00:27:04.000 And Jimmy's got the hammer cracked back, and he's looking at the guy.

00:27:08.000 And Johnny says, Dad, take the hammer from him before he hits me.

00:27:13.000 And the dad goes, Well, he didn't hit you yet.

00:27:15.000 So I can't just take his hammer away.

00:27:17.000 Then Jimmy cracks Johnny over there with a hammer.

00:27:20.000 And Johnny goes, Dad, help.

00:27:21.000 He hit me with the hammer.

00:27:22.000 And he goes, Well, he already hits you.

00:27:24.000 I mean, there's no point taking the hammer now, right?

00:27:26.000 That's what the courts were doing in 2020.

00:27:28.000 Now, the funny thing is, Trump signs his executive order saying to the post office, Do not deliver mail in votes to people, mail in ballots, to people ineligible to vote.

00:27:39.000 This liberal group sued saying that would create de facto voter lists.

00:27:43.000 It's a violation of privacy rights.

00:27:45.000 And the judge said, I can't grant relief to something that hasn't happened yet.

00:27:49.000 Bye.

00:27:50.000 Now, here's the problem.

00:27:51.000 When it comes time to deliver those mail in votes about a month out from the election, they'll go out, have to collect the evidence of damages or of something having occurred, then file a suit.

00:28:03.000 It's going to take too long.

00:28:05.000 And then once the election's done, the courts then go, well, it already happened.

00:28:08.000 So, is the.

00:28:10.000 I didn't read this decision.

00:28:11.000 I wish I had before.

00:28:12.000 So, is the.

00:28:13.000 Basically, what is the harm being alleged to the voters?

00:28:18.000 The harm is like a privacy violation.

00:28:22.000 And the judge said two things.

00:28:23.000 First, the government already has this information available to them.

00:28:27.000 Aggregating it into one location is not a violation of your rights.

00:28:31.000 However, it doesn't matter anyway because Trump hasn't done anything yet.

00:28:35.000 He gave an instruction.

00:28:36.000 There has not been any visible damages.

00:28:40.000 When the Trump administration takes this action and something Tangibly occurs, then we can have a discussion about potential harm.

00:28:48.000 That's actually right.

00:28:49.000 Because, I mean, from the judge's perspective, I think you have articulated the way that rightness and mootness can be abused, right?

00:28:56.000 Like the idea that holding the hammer, maybe you could say the dispute's not right.

00:29:00.000 The guy hits you in the head, maybe you could say the dispute's moot, but then there's no relief, which seems unjust.

00:29:04.000 That's what they do.

00:29:06.000 But if in a world where the harm alleged is this privacy violation potential from your data being collected and aggregated, The aggregation of your data, as you say, is not an abuse in and of itself.

00:29:21.000 If they actually come into court and say, look, our data has been aggregated and the government is now planning to do XYZ with this data, then you're a little more in the realm of ripeness where the dispute is actually.

00:29:32.000 I think, myself, not a ripeness doesn't make it ripe.

00:29:35.000 Well, they're not just going to consider, like, the court's not going to operate on, like, a hypothetical.

00:29:39.000 Basically, what you're saying is, right now, it's a hypothetical problem.

00:29:43.000 Here's a better way.

00:29:44.000 So the way I described it with the guy having the hammer, Clearly about to strike the election.

00:29:48.000 I would have been punished for it, by the way, as a kid.

00:29:50.000 Indeed.

00:29:50.000 Holding the hammer and threatening something.

00:29:51.000 And this is the idea of 2020 when the Republicans sued saying, hey, they changed the rules of the election unconstitutionally.

00:29:59.000 This will cause damages, and they're correct.

00:30:01.000 But let's try another analogy.

00:30:03.000 Jimmy is holding a hammer and he's hammering a nail, making a little birdhouse.

00:30:07.000 Johnny sees the hammer and says, Dad, take his hammer from him before he hits me.

00:30:11.000 And the dad says, He's not threatening you at all.

00:30:13.000 He's just hammering a nail into a birdhouse.

00:30:16.000 That's a different situation.

00:30:17.000 What if Johnny, there's no perceived threat?

00:30:19.000 You don't know there will be damage.

00:30:20.000 That's the honest approach.

00:30:22.000 To ripeness, I think.

00:30:23.000 Ripeness is the name of this.

00:30:24.000 What if the hammer wielder says, you know, he's hammering the nail?

00:30:26.000 He's like, you know, Johnny, one day I'm going to hit you with this hammer.

00:30:29.000 Then does that create a.

00:30:30.000 It's it's it.

00:30:31.000 He's not posturing.

00:30:32.000 And this is where it's interpretation of the judge.

00:30:35.000 And in 2020, this is what we were dealing with.

00:30:38.000 The judges were like, well, I mean, they've done, they haven't damaged you yet.

00:30:42.000 And the Republicans were like, the changing of the rules.

00:30:46.000 Then after the election happened and they filed the lawsuit, the judges, a lot of these courts and these judges said, well, the election's already over.

00:30:52.000 What do you want me to do about it?

00:30:54.000 It's insane.

00:30:55.000 Yeah, that's an abuse of rightness and moodiness, right?

00:30:55.000 It's just pure insanity.

00:30:59.000 Let's do this. 0.56

00:31:00.000 Civil War, my friends.

00:31:01.000 Let's jump to the story from NBC News.

00:31:02.000 Let's bring it a hard seat.

00:31:05.000 Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett's home targeted in an apparent swatting incident.

00:31:11.000 What was really crazy about this is the story broke earlier today and no one picked it up for like 12 hours.

00:31:18.000 So I tweeted out this video showing the 911 call where someone was like, Amy Coney Barrett was just swatted.

00:31:25.000 And then I saw Nick Sortor tweeted out the same thing, and I said, Do we have any other source on this?

00:31:28.000 Like, no disrespect to the dude who broke the story, but I like to have three confirmations.

00:31:32.000 Nick Sortor posting the same video as me is not a confirmation.

00:31:35.000 I want to see, you know, NBC or some other outlet.

00:31:38.000 Not that I think they're trustworthy, but at least they'll be like, We contacted police in Fairfax County, Virginia, who confirmed this.

00:31:45.000 They say officers immediately coordinated with the Supreme Court police personnel assigned to the residents to determine the report was fictitious.

00:31:51.000 This is the state of this country.

00:31:54.000 In Newark, Far left extremists are outside an ICE facility, and the employees of the ICE facility are asking them for permission.

00:32:02.000 This should not be tolerated.

00:32:05.000 Have you seen the video?

00:32:07.000 There's like a security guy.

00:32:08.000 Out of New Jersey?

00:32:09.000 I mean, not the most recent.

00:32:10.000 So, a video from a few days ago.

00:32:12.000 I don't know if he's a security contractor, a direct employee of DHS, but a vehicle is coming out.

00:32:17.000 He walks up to the crowd, and he points at him and fans her over, and she comes over to search the vehicle.

00:32:23.000 Then, when she confirms the vehicle doesn't have illegal immigrants in it, she tells everybody to clear out of the way.

00:32:28.000 It's insanity that a federal employee or contractor would defer his authority to the far left extremists in front of the building.

00:32:38.000 I warn you guys, government is confidence.

00:32:42.000 I have talked about this quite a bit.

00:32:45.000 When regular people start to feel that the true authority lies with the insurrectionists and the terrorists, this is when you get civil war.

00:32:53.000 The question people have asked since the conversation of civil war has come up is who are the factions who will be fighting? 0.89

00:32:58.000 That's ridiculous.

00:32:59.000 And when I would say something like, well, you got the far left, you know, and you've got Trump supporters, they'd say, you know, and literally, I was told this by this D.C. like political consulting guy, lobby guy. 0.85

00:33:10.000 He's like, dude, activists fighting each other in the street is not a civil war.

00:33:15.000 What happens when federal law enforcement defer the authority to that group?

00:33:21.000 What happens one day when these leftists buy uniforms?

00:33:26.000 What happens if one day a leftist shows up at your house, knocks on the door in a button up shirt and khakis with a badge?

00:33:34.000 And they say, DSA Guard, I have a warrant to inspect to search your home.

00:33:38.000 Now, we all watching this would be like, what?

00:33:40.000 DSA Guard is not a real law enforcement agency.

00:33:42.000 You can't come to my house.

00:33:43.000 How many regular people would just not know and be like, oh, you have a warrant?

00:33:49.000 Okay, I guess.

00:33:50.000 And just let them come in and do whatever they want.

00:33:52.000 Now, that's an extreme scenario, of course, but I stress this.

00:33:55.000 We're already at the point where we saw a video of a worker at the ICE facility allowing far left extremists to search the vehicles leaving the property.

00:34:05.000 This is where it begins.

00:34:07.000 If the question asked by the general population, who controls the threat of violence against me?

00:34:13.000 If it is no longer the federal government, then they don't care what the federal government says.

00:34:18.000 And if it is Antifa, then Antifa becomes the government.

00:34:21.000 I noticed, I think it was Harmony Dillon.

00:34:24.000 Somebody, they're issuing, no, it wasn't Dillon.

00:34:27.000 Somebody was, I don't think it was, issuing like the government to go track people's ex accounts now.

00:34:31.000 A couple people that have indicated that they're going to be threatening or had said threatening things or done threatening things.

00:34:37.000 So they're like, they're like, so it's like, it seems like the government's getting ready to crack down if something like that were to happen and groups of terrorists, you know, angry mobs were masking up or arming up or uniforming up that they're going to go snatch people out of houses one night.

00:34:52.000 Well, they already got the foreign terror designation and that gives, you know, That gives the DOJ massive tools in their toolbox to really target people.

00:35:01.000 I think I'm confident in DOJ doing this.

00:35:03.000 I mean, I was disappointed recently.

00:35:05.000 I don't know if you followed this, but if you remember Kat Abu Ghazaleh, sorry, do you remember Kat Abu Ghazaleh?

00:35:10.000 Abu Ghazaleh.

00:35:10.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:11.000 She ran for office?

00:35:12.000 I don't know.

00:35:12.000 I think.

00:35:13.000 So she was indicted.

00:35:13.000 Right.

00:35:14.000 Abu Ghazaleh.

00:35:15.000 That was like a slur.

00:35:18.000 She was indicted. 0.99

00:35:19.000 She was like a Chicago house can. 1.00

00:35:19.000 Right. 1.00

00:35:22.000 She's like a TikToker. 1.00

00:35:23.000 She was like a Chicago candidate. 1.00

00:35:26.000 She got, she obstructed that vehicle and got hit by it.

00:35:31.000 No, she didn't get well.

00:35:32.000 That was she didn't get shoved.

00:35:33.000 She got just shoved, but there was a different time where she was like banging on the hood.

00:35:37.000 Yeah, got indicted for it.

00:35:38.000 That just got dropped because there was misconduct by some of the line attorneys in that U.S. Attorney's Office.

00:35:44.000 I'm sorry, I'm so that's so infuriating.

00:35:47.000 But that said, I hate to bring that up.

00:35:49.000 I'm just still bothered by it.

00:35:51.000 They're like, I'll finish your point.

00:35:53.000 I'm sorry, but like, I guess my point is you know, the I'm confident that you know, the Trump DOJ is actually taking all this stuff seriously.

00:36:02.000 I mean, if you've since Blanche took power, took over.

00:36:04.000 The amount of action there's been has been substantial.

00:36:07.000 It's fair.

00:36:08.000 I'll keep some of the hope alive, but I got to be honest.

00:36:13.000 I'm not the only one who feels this way.

00:36:15.000 They've gotten, look, there's been tremendous victories.

00:36:18.000 I don't want to downplay everything. 0.98

00:36:19.000 Shuttering USAID was massive, but holy crap, you can't get a slap on the wrist even for some chick banging on a federal vehicle. 0.95

00:36:27.000 What is going on, man? 0.98

00:36:29.000 It was just some line attorney who was really a Democrat.

00:36:31.000 I think after she left the office, she went and worked for Dick Durbin or something.

00:36:34.000 I mean, DOJ is just such a fixing DOJ.

00:36:37.000 Like across the entire country is just this massive problem.

00:36:41.000 It's like a giant slow moving steam.

00:36:43.000 Because you're like, we got good people at the top now.

00:36:44.000 We just don't have any brutal guys.

00:36:46.000 I'm sorry.

00:36:47.000 Like Trump is not a brutal guy.

00:36:48.000 He's just not.

00:36:49.000 Like that's why this is very true.

00:36:51.000 That's why the joke is Lord, give me the Trump that Democrats claim he is.

00:36:55.000 Because he's not. 0.99

00:36:58.000 He's a braggart.

00:36:59.000 He bloviates a bit, but he's actually just kind of moderate.

00:37:03.000 He's stronger than the Republicans we've seen for a long time, but he is not the iron fist guy.

00:37:08.000 Democrats.

00:37:09.000 Now, these people are tough. 1.00

00:37:11.000 And it's funny because anybody who wants to say, oh, Democrats are pussies, bro, they locked up J6s in solitary. 1.00

00:37:17.000 They tortured people. 1.00

00:37:18.000 They will crush your nuts in a vice.

00:37:21.000 That's what they are willing to do for power.

00:37:23.000 Donald Trump and the Republicans, either they're unwilling or unable.

00:37:27.000 They're doing like a hunger strike at the ICE facility, which is like the funniest thing.

00:37:31.000 Because they wanted tacos.

00:37:32.000 Well, they can just go home.

00:37:34.000 They have the key to the joke.

00:37:36.000 It's not a joke.

00:37:37.000 Literally, but they're just go home.

00:37:38.000 It's like, we're trying to send them to Taco Land.

00:37:40.000 Yeah.

00:37:41.000 Like, you can just go home.

00:37:42.000 The detainees at the ICE facility are upset because they want ethnic food from where they come from, which is not just tacos, but one of the things requested was literally tacos.

00:37:52.000 And was it Mark Wayne Mullen was like, We want them to go home and they can enjoy all of that food in their home country.

00:37:58.000 That's like so true. 1.00

00:37:59.000 White people's food's horrible. 1.00

00:38:00.000 You would hate it. 1.00

00:38:01.000 You should probably go home. 0.99

00:38:02.000 I saw there was a really heartwarming story about a Denver illegal alien mother who turned herself in to be self deported or to be deported by ICE because she was sitting around and.

00:38:13.000 Her partner had been deported, the breadwinner, and she was like, Well, we're broken, miserable.

00:38:17.000 We don't have any money.

00:38:18.000 We got to go home.

00:38:19.000 So, can you give us the free flight and we'll all go home?

00:38:22.000 And I thought, Oh, perfect.

00:38:23.000 That's exactly how the system should work.

00:38:24.000 You called it a sad story.

00:38:25.000 That sounds like a.

00:38:27.000 No, I said heartwarming.

00:38:28.000 I said, Oh, heartwarming.

00:38:30.000 It's a wholesome story, right?

00:38:31.000 Because that should be the incentive structure, right? 1.00

00:38:33.000 Like, if you're an illegal alien in this country, you should be broken, miserable. 1.00

00:38:36.000 And I was thinking, This is my new idea. 1.00

00:38:38.000 Broken, miserable.

00:38:40.000 But here's the other side of it.

00:38:41.000 I want, I'm, you know, and this is maybe the more controversial take.

00:38:44.000 Is that I think that the self deportation process should be unbelievably pleasant.

00:38:48.000 It should just be like you sign up for CBB Home.

00:38:51.000 Oh, would you like a three star hotel for a few days?

00:38:54.000 You know, like would you like, you know, caviar with that?

00:38:56.000 Would you like a concierge, a nice concierge to come by and help you pack your things?

00:39:00.000 I'm a Trump bathroom.

00:39:01.000 Well, no, because it's true, because it's like, you know, people will retract when they hear that and they go, well, they're right.

00:39:05.000 But it's like when you realize how much money it costs, how much money it costs to pay these people, et cetera, et cetera, like a couple grand, that's way.

00:39:12.000 And he's on the dollar.

00:39:12.000 Hold on.

00:39:13.000 I figured it out.

00:39:14.000 We got Hollywood all wrong.

00:39:16.000 You know how they're making these movies where, like, white people are all bad and, like, always the villains?

00:39:20.000 Yeah. 0.58

00:39:20.000 They're doing that so that people around the world don't want to come here. 0.58

00:39:24.000 Oh, it's true.

00:39:25.000 It's horrible.

00:39:26.000 There's, like, clansmen everywhere.

00:39:27.000 I mean, it is.

00:39:28.000 That's what we got to do.

00:39:28.000 We got to make a movie where it's, like, about, like, the hero is some, like, you know, five foot six, you know, portly, like, landscaper, illegal immigrant.

00:39:38.000 But just, like, everywhere he goes, like, everyone is in the clan.

00:39:42.000 And it's just, you know, it's a struggle every day.

00:39:45.000 And his dream is to escape America and go back to Taco Land.

00:39:48.000 Yeah.

00:39:49.000 Yeah.

00:39:49.000 You'd have to have him really want to be here for like three fourths of the movie.

00:39:53.000 And then at the end of the movie, he finally decides he's got to get out.

00:39:56.000 And that's like a heroic journey.

00:39:56.000 And then he's right.

00:39:58.000 And the concierge, I mean, look, the people have been talking about for years oh, we need to build a patronage network for conservatives.

00:40:03.000 You know, the liberals, they have all these patronage networks for their people.

00:40:06.000 We could provide these people with my pillows.

00:40:08.000 You know, that'd be really nice.

00:40:09.000 Like on your flight back, we'll do a my pillow neck braid, like a neck pillow.

00:40:12.000 I think that's a win.

00:40:13.000 Yeah.

00:40:13.000 There's a lot of patronage networks.

00:40:15.000 It's a perfectly reasonable way to spend money.

00:40:17.000 It's cheaper than enforcement, right?

00:40:19.000 No, like trying to pull somebody out of their house.

00:40:22.000 Is cheap, is more expensive.

00:40:24.000 Oh, yeah, getting them to turn themselves in, and the coin. 0.99

00:40:26.000 There's only so many people in, and like, not to sound like you know, super gay libtard here, but it's like, to be fair, these people came in, uh, with the door wide open at the red carpet rolled out. 0.99

00:40:37.000 It's like, you can make them, I mean, it doesn't have to be like completely brutal. 1.00

00:40:41.000 I mean, I know that's what people want, but it's like, that's how you can guarantee the heat gets cranked up.

00:40:45.000 And it should be brutal if we have to come find you. 1.00

00:40:47.000 I know exactly, but it's like, that's how you get a million abregos. 0.99

00:40:50.000 And Trump has explained this, Tom Homan has explained this, they've all explained like. 1.00

00:40:54.000 Look, if you want mass deportations, the better it goes, the more comfortable everyone is, the more people you can get out.

00:40:59.000 It's when it gets like violent and brutal, which it's like sometimes you have to go there, but that's how you create a million breakers.

00:41:04.000 You get wedge issue after wedge issue.

00:41:06.000 I know how we can solve this problem overnight.

00:41:09.000 We make cilantro illegal.

00:41:13.000 Yeah. 0.55

00:41:14.000 And they just leave it.

00:41:15.000 They're like, I ain't going to live in a country that doesn't allow cilantro.

00:41:16.000 My mother in law would love that.

00:41:17.000 She hates cilantro.

00:41:18.000 Me too.

00:41:18.000 Cilantro exemplifies the demographic change in this country.

00:41:23.000 Hear me out.

00:41:24.000 No, hear me out.

00:41:25.000 This is true.

00:41:25.000 This is etymology 101.

00:41:27.000 If you ask anyone who's like over, I don't know, 70, and also if you ask any British person, they'll call it coriander. 0.53

00:41:31.000 Indeed.

00:41:32.000 And then as soon as a lot of Mexicans came here and they use it heavily in their cuisine, people that were under 60 were introduced to it for the first time.

00:41:37.000 They're like, what's called?

00:41:38.000 Oh, it's called cilantro.

00:41:39.000 Yes, but.

00:41:39.000 I don't know what's this coriander in here.

00:41:40.000 But I believe that coriander includes the stem or something like that.

00:41:43.000 Something like that.

00:41:44.000 But if you ask a British person, they're like, I don't know what cilantro is. 1.00

00:41:47.000 And then they're like, oh, coriander, yeah.

00:41:49.000 The seeds and the leaves.

00:41:50.000 The coriander is the seeds.

00:41:51.000 What we need is brutality.

00:41:54.000 And I'm not saying dudes to go beat people.

00:41:56.000 I'm saying we need strong, like, we need brutal political leaders that. 0.77

00:42:01.000 You know, the Democrats recently called Stephen Miller like an ugly.

00:42:04.000 What do they call him? 1.00

00:42:05.000 Like an ugly ass bitch or something like that? 1.00

00:42:06.000 An ugly F. 1.00

00:42:07.000 Yeah, something like that.

00:42:08.000 And I'm like, that's not brutality.

00:42:09.000 That's just cringe.

00:42:11.000 Brutality is like.

00:42:13.000 I'll tell you what brutal is.

00:42:14.000 Did you guys see this viral video where there's this really big, jacked guy and he walks around supermarket parking lots and he grabs some guy, leaves a shopping cart in the wrong area.

00:42:25.000 So he grabs it and walks over and puts it behind the car and then just walks to the driver's seat and he's all jacked.

00:42:30.000 And the guy's like, I can help you.

00:42:30.000 He goes, The cart does not go there.

00:42:32.000 And he's like, Oh, I'm sorry, man.

00:42:34.000 I'll put it back. 0.99

00:42:35.000 He didn't have to do anything other than just say it was in the wrong spot, but he looks like I will punch you in the mouth. 0.97

00:42:41.000 We need leaders that just act that way. 0.98

00:42:43.000 We need Donald Trump.

00:42:44.000 To be a little bit more serious.

00:42:46.000 He insults people.

00:42:48.000 We find it funny.

00:42:48.000 We like that he pushes back.

00:42:50.000 We need a DOJ that just arrests and charges people and gets the job done.

00:42:56.000 Stern called, you are going to jail.

00:42:58.000 And with respect to Blanche, he has done a pretty good job for the short amount of time he's been in.

00:43:01.000 Well, and that's the thing with Blanche, too, is like no one really knows much about him.

00:43:05.000 And that's kind of what you want from your DOJ guy.

00:43:07.000 You kind of want him to be a bit mysterious, have a bit of aura to him.

00:43:10.000 Because Pam Bondi, she was talking to him, but she was out in the open a lot.

00:43:13.000 And she was like, everyone knew all these narratives about her and everyone had their mind made up.

00:43:17.000 You kind of want this like backroom kind of guy who's just, you know, settling scores, getting business done by the things.

00:43:24.000 I don't think I could even, I mean, I've heard Todd Blanche speak, but I can't tell you that much about the guy.

00:43:28.000 And it's like, well, yeah, because he kind of understands part of the DOJ is you got to have.

00:43:31.000 He was just a practicing lawyer.

00:43:32.000 Yeah, you got to have a bit of, you know, there's got to be a separation between you and the people to conduct business.

00:43:38.000 Also, we just got to ban social media.

00:43:40.000 Have you guys seen that there's a viral video?

00:43:43.000 I can't remember who posted it, but they said something like social media influencers should be arrested.

00:43:47.000 And they posted a video of this black dude walking into like a burrito store and he's going like this and like dancing.

00:43:52.000 And there's like 12 cameras around and he's just dancing.

00:43:55.000 And then he gets the burrito and he makes a crazy face and then he bites it.

00:43:58.000 And like you see this video and you're like, I just, I think we need to mercilessly beat social media influencers.

00:44:06.000 I'm joking.

00:44:07.000 Calm down, YouTube.

00:44:08.000 But the thing about social media that I think, aside from like the Elsa Gate degree of stuff, that's like the algorithmic brain melting, you know, I'm sitting there on, I like to scroll Instagram, just see like what's being recommended and stuff.

00:44:21.000 You guys ever go to like experimental comedy shows by chance?

00:44:25.000 I used to.

00:44:26.000 Dada, I was all into that.

00:44:28.000 So you go to these open mic comedy shows, and what a lot of these comedians do is they're trying new material and they want a crowd that's warmed up and they try to do weird things that sometimes, like most of them, aren't even funny.

00:44:39.000 They just want to experiment and see what works.

00:44:42.000 So in LA, I remember, I can't remember what the, I'm not a big into comedy, but I was talking to some friends who did comedy and they're like, oh yeah, when you go to that venue where they do open mics, it's never funny.

00:44:54.000 You'll go in and sit down, you'll get a drink, and you'll hang out.

00:44:57.000 And it's people experimenting.

00:44:59.000 And I was like, Do people just say ridiculously offensive things?

00:45:01.000 And they're like, Yeah, like a guy will show up and just start throwing racial slurs around.

00:45:04.000 And it's like, not even a joke.

00:45:05.000 He'll just start insulting the audience.

00:45:07.000 They're trying to see Does this work?

00:45:09.000 Will it work with the crowd?

00:45:10.000 That's what's happening on social media right now.

00:45:12.000 There's a whole bunch.

00:45:13.000 So I already described the problem of imitation where everybody makes the same video, but there's a bunch of influencers that are trying to do random and weird things to see what works.

00:45:21.000 Yeah.

00:45:22.000 And there are some people that are doing legitimate things.

00:45:27.000 High quality, beneficial things.

00:45:30.000 That's the problem with banning social media or bringing the hammer down on influencers as a monolith. 0.54

00:45:35.000 Ban them all. 1.00

00:45:36.000 Lock them up.

00:45:38.000 I think about the brutality thing because 20 years ago, 30 years ago, before the internet, you could go into St. Louis, send the feds in there, and rack it up.

00:45:45.000 But now, with all these cell phones, you'd have to knock out the power supply of a city, maybe shut off their water, and do an EMP blast over the city.

00:45:54.000 You'd have to maintain an EMP thing, but then they're still going to smuggle video.

00:45:58.000 You'd have to shut off their electronics in order to get it.

00:46:01.000 I'm not literally suggesting we ban the internet.

00:46:03.000 I'm just insulting influencers and modern culture.

00:46:06.000 The whole story about brutality, I feel like it's.

00:46:08.000 It wouldn't work because the communist revolution needs a brutal enemy.

00:46:12.000 They need Trump to be brutal in order for the people to rally.

00:46:14.000 As long as he's moderate, they won't.

00:46:17.000 No, I would argue that the people are starving because the leader is negligent.

00:46:21.000 That was the message of Animal Farm.

00:46:24.000 The farmer Jones wasn't doing his job to make sure the citizens of the farm were being taken care of.

00:46:31.000 So when people see far left extremists getting away with bloody murder, they don't turn to Trump and say, Save me.

00:46:37.000 They say, There's no confidence in that system, and it breaks apart.

00:46:43.000 This is the point that I'm warning about.

00:46:45.000 If Donald Trump's administration, if the perceived brutal guy can't solve the problem of the extremism, regular people stop having fear or confidence in that system.

00:46:55.000 I would hope that the president would be like, arm yourself.

00:46:58.000 You need to protect yourself if there's going to be a riot outside.

00:47:00.000 Unfortunately, you go to jail when you do that.

00:47:03.000 Well, that's a problem.

00:47:04.000 Well, if you live in Newark, New Jersey, you will go to prison.

00:47:07.000 But if the president brings the hammer down, we're toast.

00:47:09.000 Where the whole country will.

00:47:10.000 What does that mean?

00:47:11.000 It'll be an uprising, a communist uprising in the country.

00:47:13.000 You're wrong.

00:47:14.000 You know how many people are waiting for Trump?

00:47:15.000 They want him to be overthrown.

00:47:16.000 Why was Tsar Nicholas and his family overthrown?

00:47:19.000 Was he a brutal dictator?

00:47:20.000 No, he was a nobody. 0.95

00:47:21.000 He was negligent. 0.95

00:47:22.000 He was invisible.

00:47:24.000 Agreed.

00:47:24.000 He sat inside.

00:47:25.000 He was not doing the job to keep people.

00:47:27.000 He was a free internet.

00:47:27.000 I mean, Trump's definitely not invisible.

00:47:29.000 He's not like a nobody.

00:47:30.000 Okay, so to the point you were making, where you made the argument if Trump was brutal, you'd get a communist uprising.

00:47:35.000 Communist uprisings emerge when there is no strong leadership.

00:47:38.000 But we have a strong leader.

00:47:39.000 He's just not brutal.

00:47:40.000 No, we don't.

00:47:41.000 It's Donald Trump.

00:47:41.000 He's definitely strong.

00:47:42.000 He's immensely strong.

00:47:43.000 I disagree.

00:47:44.000 Venezuela.

00:47:44.000 No, he's not.

00:47:45.000 He's about to take Cuba.

00:47:46.000 There is strength in that, but Donald Trump domestically, as it pertains to the far left rampaging around, rioting, they couldn't even get Abugazela in jail.

00:47:55.000 If you're too strong, you become brittle.

00:47:57.000 You need a balance of strength.

00:47:59.000 Okay, but once again, we've already made the point that communist uprisings are happening when the leaders are weak.

00:48:03.000 I just don't think he's weak.

00:48:05.000 I do agree that he's not brutal.

00:48:06.000 Again, Tsar Nicholas was not taking care of his country in a way that the people of Russia did not feel that they had.

00:48:13.000 Look, right now, gas is, mid grade gas is five bucks a gallon.

00:48:16.000 I think what happened is Lenin in Russia became more popular than the Tsar Nicholas.

00:48:20.000 There's nobody more popular than Donald Trump right now.

00:48:23.000 Well, I will give you this.

00:48:24.000 There is no one on earth who has the degree of political influence of Trump. 0.94

00:48:29.000 It is insane.

00:48:30.000 Look at this man's shirt.

00:48:32.000 The Edgar Allan Poe shirt.

00:48:33.000 Who is this guy?

00:48:33.000 I still think you're trolling him.

00:48:34.000 Massey is one of the most, listen, this is important.

00:48:36.000 Massey is one of the most popular members of Congress, period.

00:48:40.000 Nationally, internationally, he is very well known.

00:48:43.000 Million and a half followers.

00:48:44.000 Yeah, big followers.

00:48:46.000 He had like 15 million of his own, right?

00:48:48.000 And Donald Trump.

00:48:50.000 And his circle made a decision, and Massey lost.

00:48:53.000 The problem is, when Trump's out of office, there might be someone that's more popular than the next president because Marco Rubio ain't it.

00:48:59.000 I mean, I like him, but he's not that popular.

00:49:01.000 I think we have already seen the lessons of leadership over the past 10 years.

00:49:06.000 When Democrats ran roughshod over this country, arrested Trump's lawyers, put Jason's in solitary, no one rose up against them.

00:49:13.000 Well, we stood up for those people.

00:49:15.000 We voted.

00:49:16.000 I mean, we talked about it.

00:49:17.000 We got a new administration in, and now all those people are getting investigated down in Florida.

00:49:21.000 I think you're overstating how weak President Trump is.

00:49:24.000 I mean, part of this is systemic, right?

00:49:27.000 The way our Constitution is structured is it gives the president an enormous amount of authority in foreign affairs and very limited and constrained authority domestically, right?

00:49:35.000 That's just the nature of how our government is structured.

00:49:38.000 Let me just say real quick like this they accused them of rape falsely.

00:49:44.000 They're investigating the person who made that.

00:49:46.000 Yeah, for perjury.

00:49:49.000 Alex Jones, his company was thrown to school.

00:49:52.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:49:53.000 I got to be honest with you guys.

00:49:55.000 If Donald Trump, Intervened to help save Alex Jones, Jones would be diehard Trump the rest of his life.

00:50:02.000 And so you end.

00:50:04.000 I will say that.

00:50:05.000 I don't think you have the legal authority to.

00:50:05.000 You could, though.

00:50:07.000 Did the Democrats have the legal authority to accuse him of fraud, to accuse him of falsifying business records, to charge him with felonies that didn't exist with no underlying crime?

00:50:16.000 You have, I mean, that doesn't quite work because, I mean, theoretically, I guess, is there some crime he could go after the people who brought a civil suit against him, right?

00:50:16.000 I mean, this is insanity.

00:50:27.000 Do you want Donald Trump to prosecute the plaintiffs in the.

00:50:30.000 My point is this Do you think the civil fraud charges against Trump were legitimate?

00:50:34.000 No, of course not.

00:50:34.000 Do you think the felony charges were legitimate?

00:50:37.000 No, of course not.

00:50:38.000 So we have a president who is incapable of acting outside of legitimacy against an enemy who acts outside of legitimacy.

00:50:44.000 How do you win a game of monopoly against someone who's actively cheating?

00:50:48.000 I mean, I think the first answer to that is that the reason, and I speak for someone who worked for the DeSantis campaign, a big reason Donald Trump is president is because they tried all that stuff in 2020.

00:51:01.000 Three, 2024.

00:51:03.000 What, like, who tried what stuff?

00:51:04.000 Left with, you know, four indictments in four different jurisdictions.

00:51:07.000 They tried the whole lawfare campaign.

00:51:08.000 I actually, I disagree.

00:51:10.000 I think the reason that Trump ended up winning was because Biden was whacked out of his mind.

00:51:13.000 That's a big part of it.

00:51:14.000 And when that debate happened, regular people right now are concerned about the price of gas.

00:51:20.000 Okay. 1.00

00:51:21.000 It's the economy, stupid, right? 1.00

00:51:23.000 It tends to be these things. 1.00

00:51:24.000 The gas was sky high on election day, 2024.

00:51:27.000 And right now, mid grade is $4.92.

00:51:27.000 Indeed.

00:51:29.000 I think the average price is $4.42 for low grade.

00:51:32.000 Mid grade is $4.92.

00:51:35.000 And a premium is $531.

00:51:38.000 That's apocalyptic.

00:51:39.000 However, apocalyptic's a little much.

00:51:41.000 $5 gas?

00:51:43.000 I mean, the things, you know, we have short memories.

00:51:46.000 We weren't alive in the 70s, right?

00:51:48.000 I was.

00:51:48.000 No, no, of course, of course.

00:51:49.000 But it's all relative.

00:51:50.000 Listen, listen.

00:51:51.000 At the very tail end.

00:51:52.000 At the very tail end.

00:51:54.000 I understand, but it's all relative, right?

00:51:55.000 Like, you know, I was talking to my friend who was complaining about the economy, and I was like, well, put it in perspective, man, the GDP here is still five times that of like.

00:52:06.000 Any country in South America or most of the world.

00:52:09.000 And the poorest person in America today is living better than some of the wealthiest 200 years ago.

00:52:14.000 You can get a cheeseburger whenever you want.

00:52:16.000 It's all relative, but people are still unhappy because it's relativity.

00:52:20.000 So, the advantage that Trump has is that if he gets the price of gas down, people will feel the immediate relief and they'll love him for it before the midterms.

00:52:29.000 But I do believe that Trump's strategy right now, and I'll give you this because I like what Trump is doing largely.

00:52:34.000 And it is easy to complain, right?

00:52:36.000 I'm not in the administration, I'm not doing this job.

00:52:38.000 But What I will say is, it seems like the strategy they have moving forward is win the midterms with whatever procedural efforts they have or can.

00:52:47.000 So, redistricting is massive, giving Republicans a major advantage.

00:52:51.000 The executive order on the post office is a massive procedural advantage.

00:52:55.000 And I don't know that they actually need the Save Act to win at this point.

00:52:59.000 It seems absurd to me that people are making bets on Kalshi for the Democrats to win the Senate because they'd have to flip either Texas or Alaska, which is just insane.

00:53:08.000 They'd have to win every toss up and flip a state.

00:53:10.000 What's up?

00:53:10.000 Wouldn't they have to flip both?

00:53:12.000 Texas and Alaska?

00:53:12.000 No.

00:53:13.000 They have to win every toss up and flip one of those states.

00:53:16.000 They got to win Ohio too, right?

00:53:17.000 Yep.

00:53:18.000 What is it?

00:53:18.000 North Carolina, Maine, Ohio, Michigan, I think.

00:53:20.000 These are states that Trump won by 10 or more. 0.97

00:53:22.000 Susan Collins is free money. 0.98

00:53:23.000 Yeah, Susan Collins.

00:53:24.000 I'd like Susan Collins.

00:53:25.000 And those are the toss ups.

00:53:26.000 So let's say Democrats win every toss up, it's still 50 50 at that point, and JD Vance is the tiebreaker.

00:53:31.000 They'd have to flip a Republican state.

00:53:33.000 That's insanity.

00:53:34.000 So I wonder, you know, Trump recently said, I don't care about the midterms.

00:53:37.000 I wonder if Trump's general idea is just, we're going to win this through policy and procedure.

00:53:42.000 Well, what Trump's, I mean, when Trump said that about the midterms, he was referring to the Iran deal.

00:53:46.000 And I mean, he's trying, I mean, because you have to understand what the negotiation in Iran is, this is a game of chicken, right? 0.52

00:53:51.000 It's, it's who, basically the Iranians are trying to see the Iranian's pressure point is hormones and the pressure on the global economy, the, Closing more moves. 0.53

00:53:59.000 And our pressure point is our blockade, which is preventing Iran from shipping any of its oil and creating problems for the oil infrastructure. 0.83

00:54:05.000 And it's sort of this game of chicken as to who's going to give up first.

00:54:07.000 And so obviously, Trump, knowing that that's a negotiation, is not going to say, Yeah, I really am going to have to give this up because obviously oil prices are killing us.

00:54:16.000 So that's where that's coming from, right?

00:54:18.000 He's trying to be tough in negotiations.

00:54:20.000 And you made the point earlier regarding the filibuster.

00:54:21.000 I mean, this is the one thing that is holding Trump back to some degree insofar as people are saying, Why doesn't he just cross the Rubicon already?

00:54:28.000 It's like, look at his team.

00:54:29.000 I mean, it's like, This isn't Michael Jordan and like four.

00:54:32.000 This is like if Michael Jordan had four like JV high school.

00:54:35.000 People don't think about the networking consequences of that.

00:54:37.000 Why couldn't Bongino, like, why did Bongino leave?

00:54:40.000 What happened there?

00:54:41.000 What could he not do?

00:54:42.000 Why are people disappointed?

00:54:43.000 Good question.

00:54:44.000 I think he, I mean, he was frustrated with Pam.

00:54:46.000 I know that.

00:54:47.000 I think it was over the handling of the Epstein files.

00:54:49.000 The funny thing is, on substance, I think Pam and Dan were on the same page about like what actually the files meant.

00:54:54.000 There wasn't really any meaningful disagreement.

00:54:56.000 But I think Dan thought Pam was being too kind of opaque.

00:55:01.000 Why did he leave though?

00:55:01.000 And that was sort of.

00:55:03.000 I mean, part of it is also, I think he was.

00:55:06.000 I can speak to this as someone who, if you have, once you have a platform and you do this, you would hate working in government, bro.

00:55:12.000 You would hate it.

00:55:14.000 I also want to look to go from like, I don't, I have a general idea of how much Dan Bongino makes from working in the industry.

00:55:23.000 It's just your voice.

00:55:24.000 Well, and beyond that, Bongino went from pretty much generally liked by everyone to now he's like this galvanizing figure purely because he was in the admin.

00:55:33.000 And it's the amount he lost.

00:55:34.000 I want to stress something.

00:55:35.000 I want to say to repeat.

00:55:36.000 We do have a story to talk about in a second with Peter Thiel moving to Argentina.

00:55:40.000 When you have a certain degree of wealth, you don't need to have stress.

00:55:44.000 You don't need to.

00:55:45.000 So, Bongino going into the FBI was basically like imagine walking into a room where there's 10 people standing around you screaming at the top of their lungs 24 7.

00:55:55.000 He probably walked into that and said, Wow, why did I do this?

00:55:58.000 He gave up his free speech, too.

00:56:00.000 I'm just saying, No, no, no, no.

00:56:02.000 My point is this, guys.

00:56:03.000 My point is if Dan Bongino quit and shut everything down, He could go play golf for the rest of his life and just drink pina coladas.

00:56:11.000 Instead, he shut everything down and then walked into a room where people were screaming in his face 24 7.

00:56:17.000 But to be fair, I mean, Bongino came out of the NYPD.

00:56:19.000 I mean, he probably has a bit more bandwidth in these regards than most commentators.

00:56:22.000 And he works with us.

00:56:23.000 I think, I mean, although it's hard work, obviously, being deputy director of the FBI, but I think, you know, this is my experience.

00:56:28.000 I think it was in the Giuliani years.

00:56:30.000 I mean, that was a whole. 0.99

00:56:31.000 Once you have a big platform and you're speaking to people on a daily basis and then you have to shut up, which is, I mean, that really sucks. 0.56

00:56:37.000 Let's get to the Civil War stuff.

00:56:39.000 Let's jump to the story.

00:56:39.000 We got this from Kset.

00:56:41.000 Man arrested for threats to kill Erica Kirk ahead of Turning Point USA event in San Antonio.

00:56:46.000 Affidavit says Jacob Wensky, 26, faces two felony charges of making a terroristic threat.

00:56:52.000 They say that San Antonio Police investigators said Wensky replied to an April social media post about the group's three day women's leader summit by writing, I know exactly where to bomb.

00:57:01.000 In a separate post in the same thread, he wrote, I can't wait to be the valet for her escort.

00:57:05.000 A warrant for his arrest states. 0.99

00:57:07.000 An email from an account registered to Wensky stated, Death to Erica Kirk and every speaker there, America will live on without the scum of this earth. 0.97

00:57:13.000 Every Christian national shall perish in the bombing that will take place at every single turning point rally and event. 0.95

00:57:19.000 You know, after seeing all of this stuff and just like, you know, Tucker and Candace and all that, I'm at the point where I'm like, it's all on purpose. 0.90

00:57:29.000 I just, I cannot believe for a second this is accidentally happening, being allowed to happen, and that Tucker, who's friends with Trump, all of a sudden just doesn't like him, has inverted his opinions, or Candace Owens just did a show with Anna Kasparian and Hunter Biden, like she's rallying the Democratic Party now.

00:57:46.000 This is not an accident.

00:57:47.000 Okay.

00:57:47.000 These people don't do these things on accident.

00:57:49.000 Donald Trump doesn't all of a sudden have Joe Kent and Tulsi Gabbard resigning on accident.

00:57:55.000 I don't believe it for two seconds.

00:57:56.000 I think it's all on purpose.

00:57:57.000 I just don't believe this stuff anymore.

00:57:59.000 I mean, I'm here.

00:57:59.000 I'm sorry.

00:58:00.000 Candace is a guy.

00:58:00.000 Well, what do you mean?

00:58:01.000 What do you.

00:58:02.000 What don't you believe about that?

00:58:03.000 With this story, I think the guy did this and he got arrested.

00:58:05.000 Okay.

00:58:05.000 I'm saying that, like, the Candace, like, I predicted this.

00:58:09.000 Candace's rhetoric and the show that she was doing and the accusations she was making would rally people to try or threaten to kill Erica Kirk. 0.98

00:58:15.000 Yes. 1.00

00:58:16.000 And my fear is that there will be an attempt on Erica Kirk's life because of how insane. 1.00

00:58:20.000 These largely female liberals have become over that issue. 1.00

00:58:25.000 Yeah, I don't know. 0.99

00:58:26.000 YouTube is not accidentally promoting Candace Owens to a wide audience. 0.99

00:58:30.000 They're not accidentally allowing her to break all of the rules with impunity.

00:58:35.000 And the Trump administration is not accidentally sitting back as she attacks them and attacks Turning Point USA, which helped Trump win in 2024.

00:58:43.000 That would, that's, it's just too great for me to believe.

00:58:47.000 So sorry if it's conspiratorial.

00:58:48.000 I can't believe for two seconds the Trump admin's like, Oh no, for some reason, Tucker and Candace have turned on us and are destroying our base.

00:58:55.000 They do say don't attribute to malice, but it could be attributed to negligence.

00:58:59.000 You mean, so you think the Trump administration is like, you know, in cahoots or causing it?

00:59:05.000 What's your claim?

00:59:07.000 I don't understand how, as I'm riding in a car with Tucker Carlson and Trump calls him on the phone and they're giggling with each other, a year later they're mad at each other.

00:59:16.000 Like Tucker was just at the White House.

00:59:18.000 He's meeting with Trump, he's meeting with premiers of foreign governments.

00:59:21.000 And all of a sudden, his positions invert.

00:59:24.000 I feel like very rapidly.

00:59:25.000 Tucker's ego.

00:59:26.000 Tucker's got an ego that ties him on team.

00:59:28.000 And I think Tucker has a bit of residual PTSD from being stumping for the Iraq war.

00:59:33.000 And it's very typical of this generation.

00:59:36.000 It's almost like you almost feel bad for the guy to some degree. 0.98

00:59:39.000 He's like, Iran's unfolding. 0.83

00:59:40.000 I don't want to be on the wrong side of the situation.

00:59:42.000 Sure.

00:59:43.000 And I could resign myself to, wow, he changed his opinion if it was just him.

00:59:47.000 But tons of high profile, prominent personalities flipping just doesn't make sense.

00:59:52.000 I mean, in a short term. 1.00

00:59:53.000 But I think Tucker's taking a different line than most of the other, like, retard right people. 1.00

00:59:58.000 Like, where Tucker is still saying some crazy things, but you can kind of sense that he's at least has something vaguely coherent. 1.00

01:00:05.000 It's like a very Duganist kind of like multipolar world kind of philosophy where, like, the Candace stuff is just straight up schizophrenic babble.

01:00:13.000 Tucker's been apologizing for a lot of stuff lately because his positions are an inversion of long held positions.

01:00:20.000 It's not just to say that Tucker is like, On this one issue, I've changed my mind.

01:00:25.000 It's Tucker going, for 20 years, I said this one thing, and now I'm going to say the inverse.

01:00:28.000 But he's done it.

01:00:29.000 And he said, and I apologize for this.

01:00:31.000 But he went from neocon chumming it up with Rachel Maddow to populist firebrand.

01:00:38.000 And then this is just, as I understand it, the third iteration of Tucker.

01:00:41.000 But this is kind of tracks, I would say.

01:00:43.000 Even when he was pro Trump on Fox News, he was critical of Iran and warning about a nuclear Iran.

01:00:49.000 The audience was different.

01:00:51.000 I think somebody made this point, and if you're talking about like, You know, we have these theses to try and explain the sort of transition of these weird, of how the independent podcasters have moved.

01:01:01.000 It's the globalization of their audience.

01:01:03.000 And members of Congress.

01:01:04.000 Right.

01:01:04.000 Well, Massey, too, has now had.

01:01:06.000 And Marjorie Taylor Greene.

01:01:07.000 Yeah.

01:01:09.000 All of it, I mean, at least for the pod, I'll start with the podcasters.

01:01:12.000 Massey and Greene are their own weird problem.

01:01:15.000 The podcasters, I mean, they've now, I mean, Tucker Carlson Network put out that post where he was talking about how much his foreign audience has grown, right?

01:01:24.000 Like, the thing is, once you go, he started on Fox News, which is an American conservative audience, and he went to YouTube, which is the Globe.

01:01:32.000 Yeah.

01:01:32.000 And your numbers, for, you know, there's 1.5 million, billion Muslims in the world.

01:01:36.000 There's 20 million.

01:01:37.000 Yeah.

01:01:37.000 And not near.

01:01:38.000 So I think I've noticed that it's true of everybody, I think.

01:01:43.000 And it's not necessarily even sort of intentional or cynical, but people get pulled where their audience, you know, there's a, There's a feedback effect there.

01:01:50.000 So I think that's part of it.

01:01:52.000 I think Tucker also, he's lost any sort of constraints that he had on his show.

01:01:56.000 I mean, when you think, I've tweeted out a few times that we thought we liked Tucker, but in reality, we liked Blegnev and Gregory and Alex Weiser and his staffers.

01:02:04.000 The people who wrote the monologues for him every day.

01:02:06.000 The people who wrote.

01:02:07.000 Now we see what Tucker actually does on Constraint, and it's a lot worse.

01:02:10.000 This is an important thing people need to understand that the opening monologue that everyone loved from Tucker's show, you know, the past few years we was on Fox News, those were written for him.

01:02:18.000 And to the extent, I mean, he obviously had editing control, but then there's also, Constraint feedback on his monologues, right?

01:02:24.000 He might try and put some stuff that's crazy in and get pushed back on by his staff and by senior.

01:02:28.000 Why is YouTube allowing Candace to just break the rules every day? 1.00

01:02:33.000 I mean, YouTube still has a bunch of leftists, and I think leftists are perfectly happy to see the right eat itself. 0.97

01:02:37.000 Did Tucker do the Jimmy Doar thing on YouTube?

01:02:44.000 Because they're hardcore anti vax in that episode.

01:02:47.000 I mean, all these people, I have no time for any moral preening from anybody who indulges Candace Owens.

01:02:53.000 I don't know.

01:02:53.000 None at all.

01:02:54.000 Maybe he didn't.

01:02:55.000 I don't know when he had Jimmy Dore on the show.

01:02:57.000 I just saw the post on.

01:02:59.000 Was it?

01:03:00.000 Did he put it up on YouTube?

01:03:01.000 I mean, like, Tucker's.

01:03:01.000 I don't know.

01:03:01.000 Point.

01:03:02.000 Very anti vax, like, outright saying vaccines and autism and all this stuff.

01:03:05.000 And to your point, I mean, Tucker's built up so much goodwill where I can understand why a lot of people are still following us.

01:03:10.000 But the Candace thing, it's like what. 0.99

01:03:12.000 She went from like very normie, like borderline, you know, neocon, certainly like a party shill. 0.99

01:03:18.000 Like, what goodwill is built up?

01:03:19.000 Like, she didn't have anything interesting to say for 10 years.

01:03:22.000 Like, I can very confidently say.

01:03:23.000 As someone that would have been a target audience, I was 14 when Trump came down the escalator.

01:03:28.000 I've never once, I remember it's instant that she came on the radar.

01:03:31.000 I was like, oh, here's the token black woman that they found so she can say the base things, but then boomers watching it can be like, see, there's black people that agree with us.

01:03:38.000 This is great.

01:03:39.000 That was her whole career.

01:03:40.000 So I just don't understand.

01:03:41.000 Like, I guess what I'm trying to say is her audience she has now is a completely separate audience from what she had.

01:03:47.000 Oh, it's Lib. 0.99

01:03:47.000 It's just, yeah, it's like Lib's bored wine moms. 0.99

01:03:50.000 It's mostly women and women love this kind of stuff. 0.99

01:03:52.000 How many non Americans is it?

01:03:54.000 Do you guys have analytics?

01:03:55.000 To be fair, I do want to say, like, I think.

01:03:57.000 Tucker, Candace, et cetera, I think their audiences are a bit more American than people think.

01:04:01.000 And my evidence for this is primarily anecdotal, but I meet a lot of people that are really into it, and especially older people.

01:04:09.000 I think people don't realize how old Tucker's audience is.

01:04:11.000 Indeed.

01:04:11.000 Tucker is one of the oldest.

01:04:13.000 And Bongino.

01:04:14.000 Bongino, too.

01:04:14.000 But Tucker, they've actually mapped, like, this is now, it's the opposite of what you would think.

01:04:18.000 The Daily Wire is a really young audience relative to conservative media.

01:04:20.000 It's like 35 is young.

01:04:22.000 And then Tucker is a really old audience.

01:04:24.000 And the majority of people that I've heard that have, like, had their minds blown by Tucker are like, Baby boomers. 0.70

01:04:29.000 Like they have followed him from Fox. 1.00

01:04:32.000 This is a.

01:04:32.000 And they love this guy.

01:04:33.000 This is what people need to understand is that, you know, I hear a lot of people talk about like Dan Bongino.

01:04:38.000 It's like, how does he have such a big audience?

01:04:39.000 I don't know anybody who listens to him.

01:04:40.000 And it's like, yeah, they're all like 60, 65.

01:04:43.000 They're going to.

01:04:44.000 Bongino was a host on Fox News, built up a big audience, started a show.

01:04:48.000 The ideas and the values that he espouses are attractive to the boomer audience, and he's got a big audience.

01:04:53.000 Yeah, and he was a guest on Hannity like every week.

01:04:55.000 Of course. 1.00

01:04:56.000 And Candace is targeting 35 year old women. 1.00

01:04:59.000 That's why she has the Stanley mug, you know, and she does like true crime drama, dating. 1.00

01:05:04.000 Yeah, she turned Erica Kirk's life into a true crime drama. 1.00

01:05:07.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:05:07.000 That's basically what she did. 1.00

01:05:08.000 Yeah, and Candace is also like roped in people that wouldn't typically be super politically involved. 1.00

01:05:13.000 So, yes, women, but also like she has a very large Hispanic and black audience. 0.83

01:05:16.000 Like, she's really has a very big coalition, so to speak, of viewers that would never be interested in like conservative.

01:05:22.000 I saw this video on Instagram and it was like an English teacher saying, Tell me when you stop understanding.

01:05:30.000 There's a bunch of these videos, by the way, but it's like, Tell me when you are unable to understand what I'm telling you.

01:05:36.000 And then he says, like, the first sentence and it's just like, The dog fell and got hurt.

01:05:43.000 The next sentence is, the dog was running, fell down, and injured himself.

01:05:48.000 And then the next sentence is like, on a voyage through a desiccant field, and it gets more and more verbose.

01:05:58.000 And the thing is, a show like this, we don't try to dumb things down.

01:06:04.000 We'll use esoteric or verbose language quite a bit.

01:06:08.000 Candice Owens' intention, I think Candice Owens says debacle intentionally.

01:06:11.000 I do.

01:06:12.000 Ben Shapiro made fun of her because she was saying, like, Claire Flaffle.

01:06:15.000 Yeah, she's a comedian.

01:06:16.000 He's a comedian.

01:06:17.000 No, no, no, no. 0.53

01:06:18.000 It's the Bush effect.

01:06:19.000 No, it's the Bush effect.

01:06:20.000 Bush was very well known. 0.99

01:06:22.000 George W. Bush talked like he was dumb, and he got made fun of for it by. 0.98

01:06:27.000 No, he's certainly not dumb. 1.00

01:06:29.000 He was mid intelligence. 0.93

01:06:31.000 He got the job because daddy put him there.

01:06:33.000 You are wrong.

01:06:34.000 He let Dick Cheney run the show.

01:06:36.000 Ian.

01:06:37.000 Kidding me?

01:06:38.000 Ian.

01:06:38.000 Homie.

01:06:39.000 So, do you know? 0.96

01:06:40.000 So, in sales, rapport is the most important thing you can do.

01:06:43.000 He was charismatic as hell. 0.99

01:06:44.000 George W. Bush is not stupid. 1.00

01:06:47.000 I didn't say he was stupid. 1.00

01:06:48.000 I said he was highly intelligent. 0.99

01:06:49.000 He's super intelligent.

01:06:50.000 Yes, he is.

01:06:50.000 Bro, very smart guy.

01:06:51.000 Very smart guy.

01:06:52.000 He went to Yale when Yale was still a very objectively smart guy.

01:06:56.000 His dad got on the job.

01:06:58.000 I saw this viral clip because Jubilee did this Charlie Kirk update thing.

01:07:03.000 I actually loved the interview you were talking about, by the way.

01:07:05.000 Sorry.

01:07:05.000 Charlie Kirk gets asked, Do you think that Donald Trump is a good businessman?

01:07:09.000 And he says, Well, he's a multi billionaire, so I think so. 0.94

01:07:11.000 And then this woman goes, But he had 10 bankruptcies.

01:07:13.000 That's what you're doing right now.

01:07:14.000 No, bankruptcy can be a very good tactic.

01:07:16.000 Indeed.

01:07:17.000 He couldn't communicate properly because he was a politician.

01:07:17.000 George W. Bush.

01:07:20.000 Intentionally speaking down is how you are attractive to the lowest common denominator.

01:07:24.000 That's the point I'm literally making about Candace Owens. 0.96

01:07:27.000 She says debacle on purpose to sound dumb so that she can attract the lowest common denominator. 0.95

01:07:33.000 That's the point. 0.97

01:07:34.000 That's how you build. 1.00

01:07:35.000 That's what Hillary Clinton does. 1.00

01:07:37.000 It's what all the politicians do. 1.00

01:07:37.000 Exactly. 1.00

01:07:39.000 So intentionally having a show where we use overly verbose and pretentious language, sometimes intentionally, is unattractive to a regular person who can't comprehend the words we're using.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, I can't.

01:07:53.000 Candace, bit debatable otherwise, but her verbal IQ is quite high. 1.00

01:07:58.000 Anyone that's that successful in the industry, yeah, they know how to handle a candidate.

01:08:01.000 I got this audio clip, George Bushisms. 1.00

01:08:03.000 We should pull up some of Bush's stupidest statements. 1.00

01:08:05.000 There's just statement after statement after statement. 1.00

01:08:07.000 Do you understand?

01:08:08.000 You're the president at the point.

01:08:09.000 Do you understand that's on purpose?

01:08:11.000 There's no.

01:08:12.000 You pull it up and tell me that it's on purpose, you'll be shocked.

01:08:14.000 Watch a Bush cabinet meeting versus a stump speech.

01:08:17.000 In a stump speech, he's like, hell no, I'm from Texas.

01:08:19.000 And then in a cabinet meeting, he's like, okay, so what are we talking about?

01:08:23.000 Or watch a more recent interview with.

01:08:25.000 George Washington.

01:08:26.000 Listen, it is a sales 101 fact.

01:08:26.000 Yeah, it's not even that.

01:08:31.000 The first step towards charisma, towards sales and persuasion is rapport.

01:08:37.000 If you're trying to talk to the average person, you cannot be overly verbose.

01:08:44.000 You will lose them.

01:08:45.000 It's like that in that movie, The Adjustment Bureau, where Matt Damon's character, he's like running for Congress, and then he has like a moment of clarity where he's like, listen, he's giving his speech when he loses the race, and he goes, look, I've consultants who tell me what to wear and how to wear it.

01:09:04.000 They tell me that a blue tie looks too pretentious, but a red tie looks too aggressive, so maybe yellow might work.

01:09:11.000 They tell me to wear nice shoes so it looks like I'm a professional, but they can't be too clean because it looks pretentious. 0.60

01:09:16.000 So, I got to scuff him up a little bit so I seem like maybe I'm working class. 0.73

01:09:19.000 This is what the whole game is. 0.99

01:09:23.000 George W. Bush is not stupid. 0.95

01:09:25.000 He is intentionally speaking down to be attractive to the widest array of people. 0.98

01:09:28.000 I think he was average intelligence, high courage.

01:09:30.000 Also, but George Bush, like, not to get super nerdy here, but there's so many indicators that he, and I'm not a George Bush fan at all.

01:09:36.000 I'm just saying he was flying fighter jets.

01:09:39.000 Like, they're not going to let someone at the middling IQ flying fighter jets.

01:09:41.000 Be president then, if you're so smart.

01:09:43.000 Yeah, these are like top.

01:09:44.000 You're smarter than he was?

01:09:45.000 Be president then.

01:09:47.000 Prove it.

01:09:48.000 You need more than intelligence to be president, man.

01:09:50.000 His dad was George Bush.

01:09:51.000 Oh, what?

01:09:52.000 So he got him the job.

01:09:53.000 His dad, his name was George Bush.

01:09:55.000 Again, you're just proving the point.

01:09:56.000 Jeb Bush was able to run for office.

01:09:58.000 His daddy.

01:09:58.000 Go to anybody who's got success and wealth, who has built a company, and they will tell you the same thing.

01:10:05.000 The first mistake so many people make is the assumption that it can only be accomplished through money.

01:10:12.000 When it is a scientific fact, perseverance is the only prerequisite to success.

01:10:19.000 These are like genetic markers, too.

01:10:19.000 That's a fact.

01:10:21.000 Like, do you think LeBron James Jr. is an NBA because of his dad?

01:10:24.000 It's like, well, no, it's because his dad had really good genetics.

01:10:26.000 And that makes him a good basketball player.

01:10:28.000 Or Ken Griffey Jr.

01:10:29.000 It's the same thing internally.

01:10:32.000 He has a genetic makeup that allows him to be an intelligent person, but also exceptionally good at education, politics, et cetera.

01:10:38.000 Maybe you could say George Bush has like a 68% intelligence out of 100.

01:10:42.000 Above average.

01:10:43.000 That's by like 95.

01:10:45.000 Oh, dude, I lived through it, bro.

01:10:46.000 I watched it every day.

01:10:47.000 Drove me insane.

01:10:49.000 He let Cheney run the thing, dude.

01:10:51.000 He wasn't good at his job.

01:10:53.000 He was just a charismatic figurehead.

01:10:54.000 I don't understand how you can't grasp this concept.

01:10:57.000 You're saying he's intelligent, but you don't have to be intelligent to be in Congress, to be a politician.

01:11:00.000 You need to be charisma.

01:11:01.000 You just need to trick people and get them to laugh.

01:11:04.000 I mean, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice. 1.00

01:11:07.000 He's just a dumb, He was president. 1.00

01:11:10.000 He had a very successful career. 1.00

01:11:15.000 Yeah, Bush was very, very smart.

01:11:26.000 Yeah, Bush is brilliant.

01:11:29.000 Donald Trump, these people are all genius level intellect.

01:11:32.000 Trump's very smart.

01:11:33.000 Not every president is smart.

01:11:35.000 Does Trump talk like a smart person all the time?

01:11:37.000 Does he use complicated words?

01:11:38.000 He's like a construction worker.

01:11:40.000 Yeah, but he's a smart guy.

01:11:41.000 He's super intelligent.

01:11:43.000 Trump's really, really smart.

01:11:43.000 Bush?

01:11:44.000 I mean, if you guys were talking about George Bush Jr., I just don't know.

01:11:46.000 I'm just trying to appeal to him.

01:11:48.000 You have an emotional bias, Ian.

01:11:50.000 I can't understand.

01:11:51.000 I can't understand how sales works and how politics works.

01:11:53.000 It's charisma.

01:11:54.000 You even mentioned it like five years ago.

01:11:55.000 Hillary Clinton was on.

01:11:57.000 Camera in the 2016 campaign speaking with a southern drawl.

01:12:00.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:12:01.000 Because she didn't understand social media.

01:12:03.000 What did she say?

01:12:04.000 I've longed hard or something like that.

01:12:06.000 Something or something.

01:12:06.000 She talked about how she had hot sauce in her purse.

01:12:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:09.000 Do we really believe that woman carries hot sauce in her purse? 1.00

01:12:11.000 No. 1.00

01:12:12.000 She was lying to get black votes through black media. 1.00

01:12:15.000 She's highly intelligent. 0.99

01:12:16.000 George W. Bush spoke that way to be attractive to regular people.

01:12:16.000 So is Bill.

01:12:20.000 I'll even say the most unpopular. 1.00

01:12:22.000 I think Jasmine Crockett's actually probably pretty smart. 1.00

01:12:24.000 It's like. 0.99

01:12:24.000 Of course she is. 0.99

01:12:26.000 When you listen to her before she was in office and she's clear and articulate and normal. 1.00

01:12:30.000 And then she does the ghetto trash thing to get votes. 1.00

01:12:33.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:33.000 Okay, let's pick some congressmen. 1.00

01:12:35.000 We'll just pick some random congressmen.

01:12:36.000 I mean, there's certainly a few that I'm like, okay, that's really unmiddling.

01:12:39.000 Yeah, like we're talking about 435 people, some of whom, you know, like Steve Cohen could have wanted.

01:12:45.000 So you can admit, you don't have to be intelligent to be in politics.

01:12:48.000 Well, to be president is much different than like winning an election with a couple hundred.

01:12:51.000 I'm just taking you step by step.

01:12:53.000 What if your dad's the president before?

01:12:55.000 And here's the cutoff.

01:12:56.000 Let's clarify this.

01:12:59.000 In almost all circumstances, because I reserve their absolutes would be silly in physical systems, you need to have an above average intelligence to be in politics. 1.00

01:13:08.000 You can't be an idiot to be a president. 1.00

01:13:10.000 No, no, no. 1.00

01:13:11.000 To be in politics.

01:13:12.000 Sure, above average.

01:13:13.000 Minimum 65, 60, something like that.

01:13:15.000 Well, if we're talking about 50 is average.

01:13:15.000 Yeah.

01:13:18.000 If 50 is the middle of the bell curve, then yeah, 60 to 70 is usually the bottom of to be in some kind of office. 0.99

01:13:26.000 Sometimes stupid people get through because they run unopposed or something like this. 0.99

01:13:26.000 But there are anomalies. 0.99

01:13:29.000 But to be a president. 0.99

01:13:31.000 So again, Candace Owens is not accidentally hosting a massive show. 0.99

01:13:34.000 Tucker Carlson is not accidentally hosting a massive show.

01:13:36.000 And, you know, I've been massively obsessed with the recitation problem in AI.

01:13:43.000 For a while, which I don't know if we brought up yesterday on the show, but I'll ask you this question, Will.

01:13:49.000 You got an IQ test for you, all right?

01:13:50.000 You ready? 0.95

01:13:50.000 We're gonna put you on the spot and embarrass you. 0.95

01:13:52.000 Okay.

01:13:53.000 Here's your question You walk into a casino and you're looking around, you wanna find a game to play, and you see there's a roulette table, and the dealer's a little tired looking.

01:14:03.000 There's a few open seats, so you decide, you know, I'll go play this game.

01:14:06.000 You take a seat and you decide to watch some spins before you make any bets.

01:14:11.000 Out of the last 30 spins, 17 come up red.

01:14:14.000 So you decide, I'm gonna make a color bet.

01:14:17.000 Which color should you bet on?

01:14:19.000 Which color is the smarter bet?

01:14:24.000 Well, I think the, in the sort of, if we're talking, if you know, if we're talking like the platonic ideal of a roulette table, then it doesn't matter.

01:14:35.000 If 17 have come up red and you have some, there's some possibility that the table is physically biased and flawed, then maybe it makes more sense to bet red.

01:14:44.000 Which is the correct answer.

01:14:45.000 So I bring this up because there are people, go look at my Twitter.

01:14:45.000 Yeah.

01:14:49.000 And they can't comprehend this.

01:14:52.000 They cannot understand that math doesn't, in the physical reality, math doesn't exist in the abstract.

01:14:59.000 So they genuinely believe it doesn't matter, it will never matter, when in fact, the likelihood that a roulette wheel is perfectly bounced is zero.

01:15:08.000 The probability that a roulette wheel is bounced is zero.

01:15:11.000 The likelihood that a dealer is perfect is zero.

01:15:14.000 But there are people who can't comprehend this and they get angry about it.

01:15:18.000 And I had to tell these people, but they don't understand.

01:15:20.000 They can't understand.

01:15:22.000 I mean, the answer is there's no way.

01:15:24.000 Whatever hypothetical increase in probability, I mean, there is for red doesn't overcome the house edge, obviously, so you shouldn't bet.

01:15:31.000 You don't know that.

01:15:32.000 And that's the point.

01:15:32.000 You always bet towards.

01:15:33.000 Well, I mean, but like from a Bayesian perspective, you don't know that, but like as a Bayesian just going into a random casino, you assume that the edge trumps the increase in probability that the.

01:15:44.000 I think it's always fair to assume the house is trying to make money.

01:15:46.000 However, that's why casinos pull dealers, it's why they added deflectors, and it's why they tell croupiers to change their spin because sometimes there's a thing in roulette called sector betting where.

01:15:56.000 I've done this.

01:15:57.000 A dealer will begin to spin the ball the same way every time at the same time every time.

01:16:02.000 So, some dealers might actually wait till double zero lines up with their hand and they'll flick it.

01:16:07.000 And what ends up happening is the ball keeps landing in the same quadrant of the wheel.

01:16:11.000 So, like 10 times in a row, you're like, it hit the same quarter of the wheel.

01:16:14.000 It's called sector betting.

01:16:16.000 And professional gamblers exploit this.

01:16:19.000 They look for an advantage play in roulette when this happens.

01:16:21.000 So, then what happens is they'll go up and they'll make a massive bet.

01:16:25.000 In that sector, and then win a few grand, then the pit boss comes over and goes to the dealer and says, Change your spin.

01:16:32.000 Because these things do happen.

01:16:33.000 My point ultimately is this When I asked this question, and I did a poll, 70% of people got it wrong.

01:16:38.000 They said it doesn't matter. 0.98

01:16:40.000 If I was trying to sell as many gym memberships or beers or whatever to a group of people, would I want them to feel smart or stupid? 1.00

01:16:52.000 Smart. 0.99

01:16:53.000 You want to make them feel good.

01:16:54.000 Rapport is number one.

01:16:56.000 So, knowing that 70% of people will get the question wrong, you set them up intentionally to make it feel like they are smart and they got the question right.

01:17:06.000 Knowing that 70% will answer, it doesn't matter.

01:17:09.000 I would set up a situation in which they would get a positive emotion out of the experience and then say, Wow, you're really smart.

01:17:16.000 You should buy this product from me.

01:17:17.000 You're the perfect kind of person. 1.00

01:17:19.000 If I go to them and say, Wow, most of you are stupid. 1.00

01:17:22.000 How could you be so dumb? 1.00

01:17:24.000 If I said, Hey, you got this question wrong, many of them get mad, reject it outright. 1.00

01:17:24.000 Not even so aggressive. 1.00

01:17:31.000 My point ultimately is I should have said Bush was smart so that he'd come on the show.

01:17:34.000 I got your point.

01:17:35.000 George W. Bush, Candace Owens, they're not accidentally multimillionaires.

01:17:41.000 Leaders of industry, it is not an accident.

01:17:43.000 Bush is nepotism.

01:17:46.000 Nepotism plays a role, but Bush was not accidentally president.

01:17:49.000 No, he was intentionally put there for sure.

01:17:51.000 I think, you know, Bush's old sidekick Cheney.

01:17:55.000 I can only tell you this, Ian, and if you're unwilling to accept it, life will never improve.

01:17:58.000 It's all my opinion.

01:18:00.000 This is all opinion of mine.

01:18:01.000 Well, there's a fact.

01:18:02.000 The fact is, I guarantee you this.

01:18:06.000 I have heard this from so many people.

01:18:07.000 Well, I'm sure you've probably heard the same thing.

01:18:10.000 I could do it if only I had the money.

01:18:13.000 No.

01:18:13.000 No, you couldn't.

01:18:14.000 Exactly.

01:18:14.000 No, you couldn't.

01:18:15.000 It's just that you absolutely cannot.

01:18:17.000 I've heard it from so many people.

01:18:19.000 I was on a bus in LA talking about a startup I was working on, and my friend was like, shh.

01:18:23.000 She was like, you're just blurting out what you're working on?

01:18:26.000 And I was like, are you joking?

01:18:28.000 You think the people on this bus can put together an app for Facebook?

01:18:32.000 Oh, yeah, Elon freed all his money.

01:18:33.000 I'm not trying to be addicted to people on the bus, but guys, like, this is not reality.

01:18:39.000 The idea of, like, I have a good idea I can execute upon is not correct.

01:18:42.000 This idea of, I have a good idea if only I had the money I could execute upon it is not correct.

01:18:46.000 There is this idea that exists among the layman that if you have a good idea, you better be careful because a rich person might steal it from you.

01:18:53.000 That's not true either.

01:18:54.000 I guarantee you.

01:18:55.000 Sometimes maybe, but usually it's your fault.

01:18:58.000 And I know that you know this as well.

01:19:00.000 You go to a meeting with investors and you say, I have a really great idea for this judge's gavel, but I'm going to put a clock in it.

01:19:07.000 Now, let's say that for some reason was a really good idea.

01:19:09.000 You know what the investor is going to say?

01:19:11.000 How much do you need to do it?

01:19:14.000 $50,000 to start up?

01:19:15.000 Okay, I want 30%.

01:19:17.000 They're not going to say, that's a good idea.

01:19:18.000 I'm going to steal it from you.

01:19:20.000 The person who's already envisioned it and is working on it is sitting right in front of you.

01:19:20.000 Why?

01:19:23.000 If you got to spend 50 grand to make it happen, just hire the guy who's sitting in front of you who wants to do it.

01:19:28.000 But there are a lot of people who don't understand this.

01:19:30.000 Yeah, and there are enormous reserves of capital in the world chasing good ideas and industrious founders.

01:19:36.000 That's literally Silicon Valley.

01:19:38.000 Indeed.

01:19:39.000 That's the most powerful economic engine in the world.

01:19:42.000 I mean, and part of what makes Silicon Valley Silicon Valley is that they have all these different cultural norms about how venture capitalists need to behave that are extremely pro founder.

01:19:50.000 Right.

01:19:51.000 If you're a VC and you exploit a founder or mistreat them, you don't get to be in on the next round with the next VC or with the next big deal.

01:19:58.000 Like all these things.

01:20:00.000 But so, yeah, and ideas are a dime a dozen.

01:20:02.000 It's like the idea combined with the person that can actually make the idea a reality.

01:20:07.000 But I'll tell you this ideas are a dime a dozen.

01:20:09.000 I don't care about ideas, I care about execution. 0.99

01:20:12.000 You find me somebody who can execute, but as dumb as a box of rocks, like they can't envision they're not creative. 0.99

01:20:12.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:20:19.000 But if you say, I want someone to build a pyramid of bricks and I want it tomorrow morning.

01:20:25.000 And they're like, I can make that happen.

01:20:26.000 Like, that's the person you want to hire.

01:20:28.000 Hire, yes.

01:20:29.000 But sometimes you want the visionary like Steve Jobs and then you get Steve Wozniak, who's the guy that executes.

01:20:35.000 You get the work together so well.

01:20:36.000 I actually think it's the other way around.

01:20:37.000 I think Jobs is the guy who executed, and Wozniak was the visionary.

01:20:41.000 Really?

01:20:41.000 The story's told that.

01:20:42.000 No, Wozniak built the technology.

01:20:44.000 I'm going to be like, I want to see this, and Wozniak would be like, I'll build it.

01:20:46.000 And then he'd go into his garage and make the thing.

01:20:48.000 Wozniak invented the technology, and Steve Jobs packaged and sold it and made it palatable to the average person.

01:20:54.000 Steve Jobs is an unbelievably hardworking person, right?

01:20:58.000 Indeed. 0.64

01:20:58.000 And a guy who executed like crazy. 0.64

01:21:00.000 Here you go, Ian.

01:21:01.000 I'm with Jobs quite often.

01:21:03.000 Steve Jobs said the iPhone should have one button.

01:21:07.000 That would have been so annoying.

01:21:07.000 Mac computer.

01:21:08.000 That's what they do with the iPod.

01:21:10.000 It was so annoying.

01:21:11.000 You know why?

01:21:12.000 And they did that with their original mouse. 0.94

01:21:13.000 It was ridiculous.

01:21:14.000 Do you know why they dominate the smartphone market in the United States? 0.84

01:21:14.000 They took away the left mouse. 0.84

01:21:19.000 Because they were selling to the lowest common denominator.

01:21:23.000 They said it has to be, a person needs to be able to pick up the phone and just use it.

01:21:28.000 Well, their mouse.

01:21:29.000 And what did people say about Apple?

01:21:31.000 It just works.

01:21:33.000 That was it.

01:21:35.000 That's the point. 1.00

01:21:36.000 So ultimately, what I'm getting to is these leftists go, Donald Trump is an idiot. 1.00

01:21:42.000 And they go on TV and they say it. 1.00

01:21:43.000 And I'm just like, I don't think Jimmy Kimmel actually believes Trump's stupid when he says this stuff. 0.99

01:21:48.000 I don't think Colbert actually believes it. 0.99

01:21:49.000 They understand this. 0.95

01:21:50.000 Those guys aren't stupid either. 0.92

01:21:52.000 Now, being smart doesn't guarantee success. 0.75

01:21:55.000 Perseverance tends to, it's the one thing you actually need.

01:21:59.000 But there are people out there who are smarter than anybody else, but don't have either the passion or the perseverance to succeed.

01:22:07.000 Additionally, depending on the type, depending on what you would consider success, Depravity can benefit you greatly as well.

01:22:16.000 For sure.

01:22:16.000 Ripping people off is huge in business.

01:22:19.000 Taking advantage of people, cheap slaves.

01:22:24.000 Being.

01:22:26.000 Less so than you'd think.

01:22:28.000 Less so than you'd think.

01:22:29.000 There's a little.

01:22:30.000 I'm not saying that doesn't exist, but.

01:22:32.000 Well, I'm saying, like, look at the podcast industry with Tucker and Candace with massive shows, right?

01:22:38.000 They're unscrupulous.

01:22:39.000 Yeah.

01:22:39.000 Like, their opinions are for sale, you know?

01:22:42.000 Yeah, I think that the more zero sum any environment gets, and I think that.

01:22:46.000 Eyeballs and audience are kind of, I mean, there's just only so much time that any Americans are willing to spend listening to podcasts.

01:22:53.000 Indeed.

01:22:53.000 Unless we have hyped up AI numbers, which I can't tell if they're going to scale the views with the people that are born.

01:23:00.000 Well, this is part of the AI apocalypse happening.

01:23:03.000 I think Candace and Tucker are elements of this in that, you know, as more and more young people who grew up on the internet are entering the labor market or whatever version of it we have, and they don't know how to make money, they do what they know.

01:23:17.000 They're doing social media.

01:23:19.000 I see more and more.

01:23:21.000 Low level influencers that are doing cultural and political commentary, they don't necessarily have the keenest of insights, but they take up space.

01:23:30.000 So it becomes harder and harder to stand out and make money.

01:23:33.000 And we're actually a component of this in the earlier sense, in that it used to be the television networks made a ton of money, got 20 million views, you know, CNN and Fox and all that stuff.

01:23:43.000 Then with decentralization, shows like this were able to emerge where it was much, much cheaper to run a show.

01:23:48.000 We pulled audience from the likes of Fox News and CNN.

01:23:52.000 Now, All of these young people that are becoming influencers are pulling views from us and from them, and everything's diluting and flattening out.

01:23:58.000 What happens is people like Tucker and Candace need to maintain those views.

01:24:03.000 And if you are unscrupulous, you'll say whatever you have to say to get the views.

01:24:07.000 So if the American audience is diluted, but you need a million views per episode because you want to maintain your lifestyle or make money, you're going to try and find the audience.

01:24:15.000 Truth is, there's 2 billion Muslims in the world. 0.84

01:24:17.000 So going anti Jew is really easy.

01:24:20.000 What's the lost market share for being anti Jew?

01:24:20.000 Why?

01:24:23.000 What's the gained market share?

01:24:23.000 20 million.

01:24:25.000 2 billion.

01:24:25.000 That's easy math.

01:24:26.000 Dude, the thing about deception, it's such a valuable tactic in business and in politics.

01:24:32.000 And, like, I. That's why it's illegal to an extent.

01:24:34.000 I want to not be deceptive.

01:24:36.000 And it's why I'm not super rich because I just, I'm trying to be honest and direct.

01:24:36.000 I've tried to do it.

01:24:41.000 And it's like, Ian, that's not true.

01:24:43.000 And you're making excuses for yourself.

01:24:44.000 Are you kidding me?

01:24:45.000 I mean, I could easily have a shitload of audience right now.

01:24:50.000 I could blow other people's, I could blow this show up and go huge.

01:24:53.000 I mean, I'll never do that.

01:24:54.000 In the context of audience, sure.

01:24:55.000 Okay.

01:24:55.000 In the context of, if you mean you're going to like, I got to say, like, I think you're lying to yourself.

01:25:03.000 Well, it's easy to deceive people and to make 10X.

01:25:06.000 I mean, it's easy, dude.

01:25:07.000 I just don't want, I agree to an extent because if I got up here and I just started tweeting out every day, Trump's betrayed us, and I started nitpicking every single decision he makes, I'd be eight times as big right now. 0.89

01:25:17.000 Because that's market capture, where it's like I'm capturing what, 80% of conservatives that are happy with Trump, but then I could capture every libtard plus 20% of conservatives that don't want Trump. 0.85

01:25:27.000 And that's what Brian Tyler Cohen and David Peckman are. 0.93

01:25:29.000 And that's what a lot of people on the right are doing right now they're doing the sports radio where they're like, you know, the coach, you subbed him in at the wrong time, da, da, da.

01:25:36.000 I'd be way bigger right now.

01:25:37.000 That's unfortunately.

01:25:39.000 Where a lot of the market is.

01:25:40.000 I have a joke that if I was running a daily podcast, it would be really boring because I'd be saying how great the administration's doing.

01:25:46.000 Just on repeat, be like, man, they're killing it again.

01:25:49.000 Another day, great day.

01:25:50.000 I would go with a smile on my face.

01:25:53.000 Hit like and subscribe.

01:25:55.000 You are both correct, but to an extent, right?

01:25:57.000 The idea that you would be rich and massive, Ian, by lying, I used to lie to people on YouTube.

01:26:04.000 I got so popular so fast.

01:26:06.000 I would just find the most popular thing and rip it apart, and everyone loved me. 0.99

01:26:10.000 My shit was going crazy. 0.99

01:26:11.000 And then I was like, you know, I can't, I feel dirty. 1.00

01:26:11.000 Fuck it. 1.00

01:26:13.000 I felt like, yes, yes, yes. 1.00

01:26:14.000 But again, to clarify, like, reaching the upper echelons of the podcasting rankings for which there are only like the top 200 is a top 200.

01:26:24.000 And only like in the top 200, how many are actually making a ton of money?

01:26:29.000 I didn't like the number 200 biggest podcast in the world probably is making six figures.

01:26:34.000 Yeah.

01:26:34.000 And the number one is making 50 million to 200 million or more.

01:26:37.000 And what you're describing is also like a really common trope actually in Hollywood where, you know, they follow a singer who, like, he was really like a family man and all his friends when he was busking on the street.

01:26:46.000 And then he becomes all like this successful singer, and then his friends are like, Hey, man, he's like, Oh, I don't know you.

01:26:50.000 My, you know, I'll upset my manager if I hang out with you guys.

01:26:53.000 That's like the most common trope in, you know, in Hollywood, because it's to a degree, I guess that maybe does happen.

01:26:58.000 I'm just saying that the idea of I could just do it if only is one of the biggest mistakes people make and tends to be proof that they can't do it.

01:27:08.000 I agree.

01:27:09.000 Do it or don't.

01:27:09.000 I mean, don't talk about how you could, but I'm just, I like to point out the value of deception.

01:27:13.000 I used to think deception equal to evil.

01:27:14.000 It doesn't.

01:27:15.000 Like George Washington was a master of deception.

01:27:17.000 And that's why they won that war because he could send false orders to the enemy when he needed to and be where he wasn't.

01:27:23.000 Yeah.

01:27:24.000 Trump definitely deceives, too.

01:27:25.000 That's a big part of his foreign policy.

01:27:26.000 I view like a fundamental component of evil to be destruction for the sake of destruction. 0.61

01:27:34.000 So it's, you know, I hate to, I don't want to be absolute with it, but I would say that an element of evil often includes destruction for small personal benefit.

01:27:44.000 So greater destruction to life and civilization and humanity for a small benefit to you.

01:27:50.000 That is, You are a net negative on humanity.

01:27:53.000 And you might argue that deception is a form of psychological destruction.

01:27:57.000 And if you're doing it just to get a little bit of game, that's evil.

01:28:00.000 But if you're doing it for a greater purpose.

01:28:02.000 Yeah, that's basic Christian theology is like, okay, deception in advance of something good is not actually a sin.

01:28:08.000 And so far as like if someone busts into a room and you're, you know, the guy they're looking for is hiding in a locker and they say, where is he?

01:28:13.000 And you say, I don't know where he went.

01:28:15.000 So that way they leave.

01:28:16.000 That's not like, that's not a mortal sin.

01:28:18.000 You actually spared the guy's life.

01:28:20.000 There is a reality to the nature of.

01:28:23.000 Of man and earth, and that is slavery is and always will be a component of what we do. 0.97

01:28:29.000 So, right now, we are using microphones with components that are mined by slaves in third world countries. 0.84

01:28:35.000 Peasants, maybe, is a nicer way to put it. 0.96

01:28:37.000 There's peasants in China that produce things for pennies on the dollar, and we live substantially better than they do.

01:28:42.000 And, you know, liberal activists don't really want to acknowledge the components in their computers that they use for their environmentalism are destructive to the environment. 0.93

01:28:53.000 It's a nature of reality that people need to come to terms with.

01:28:57.000 That is, you see a lot of these people online.

01:29:00.000 And they do sales for like courses.

01:29:04.000 They'll say, if you want to be successful, if you want to, you know, if you want to break the bank and escape the matrix or whatever, give me money and I'll explain to you how to do it. 0.99

01:29:15.000 They're basically saying, listen, there are 100 million, there are 10 billion, you know, 8 billion really stupid people out there. 0.98

01:29:26.000 And they could all give me a dollar and then I will live like a king. 0.99

01:29:29.000 That's basically what they're saying when they do a lot of this stuff.

01:29:33.000 There's a truth to that. 0.99

01:29:34.000 Right, you will be wealthy if you can convince a billion stupid people to give you a dollar, you'll be a billionaire, and that's what a lot of people do. 0.99

01:29:44.000 I feel like that's the ethos of the Democratic Party for the most part. 1.00

01:29:47.000 They view the world as people are really dumb and should be told what to do.

01:29:52.000 The populist movement, largely with the right, is to a certain degree we're going to withhold information if we think it could be detrimental, but for the most part, tell the truth and hope that people come to the right conclusions, and we have a robust, intelligent movement. 0.86

01:30:06.000 And that's why I think you find many moderates shifted rightward and toward Trump.

01:30:11.000 The left just lies about everything all day.

01:30:13.000 Everything about Trump is a lie.

01:30:14.000 Have you guys ever read The Romance of the Three Kingdoms?

01:30:17.000 It's a Chinese novel written in the 1400s by Lokong Zhao about this war that took place in 200 AD in China.

01:30:24.000 And the honorable, ethical guy, Liu Bei, is the hero, in my opinion, of the book.

01:30:29.000 You know, the kingdom splits into three.

01:30:29.000 He fails.

01:30:32.000 There's this bandit uprising, the yellow turbans are trying to, and all these governors raise armies and fight this. 1.00

01:30:37.000 Rebellion, and then one of the governors seizes the emperor and takes control of the country, and all the other governors have to raise standing armies, and then they form into these three kingdoms. 0.95

01:30:45.000 Liu Bei's kingdom, he's the benevolent, he is just pure and honest in the story, and he can't beat the deceptive South South.

01:30:53.000 A lot of Game of Thrones, I wouldn't be surprised. 0.99

01:30:55.000 The great deceiver, the one who said, I would rather betray the world than let the world betray me, is the one who won.

01:31:01.000 And that's the moral of the story.

01:31:03.000 The moral of the story is those that are willing to exercise power to gain more power win. 0.97

01:31:09.000 Yeah, I mean, the whole thesis of Game of Thrones, right, is, you know, Ned Stark is the character, the honest, upright man who keeps making these stupid mistakes and getting killed for his trouble.

01:31:19.000 And then I have a provocative thesis, which is that Tywin Lannister is actually the hero of Game of Thrones.

01:31:24.000 Well, until he dies, I guess, or what?

01:31:26.000 That was George R.R. Martin just deciding that he, you know, his left-tardism kind of coming into play, I think, honestly.

01:31:26.000 Right.

01:31:33.000 But, you know, there's like this thing about, you know, but anyway, I could go.

01:31:38.000 Yeah, Tywin Lannister is the person who understands actually what's going on and does.

01:31:42.000 The money that actually leads to peace.

01:31:44.000 Let me ask you a question, Ian.

01:31:46.000 You are a king of a great nation.

01:31:49.000 You have 50 million loyal subjects.

01:31:51.000 Or let's say you're the duly elected president and a meteor has just been detected.

01:31:57.000 It's just been detected.

01:31:58.000 And they say, Mr. President, we have just detected this large meteor that's going to crash into the nation.

01:32:05.000 It's going to kill everybody.

01:32:07.000 It's not going to wipe out the planet, but it will kill everyone in this country.

01:32:12.000 We have a way to stop it.

01:32:14.000 But we need 1 million people to run the machinery to stay in that city so that they can prepare the counter missiles that we can launch and fire at this meteor and destroy it before it wipes out 50 million lives.

01:32:31.000 If you tell the people that you want them to sacrifice themselves, most of them will flee, will not operate the machinery, and everyone will die.

01:32:41.000 What do you want to do?

01:32:42.000 I don't tell them a thing.

01:32:43.000 I let them run the machine. 1.00

01:32:44.000 You let them all die. 1.00

01:32:45.000 Well, hopefully, so they're going to die regardless, even if they succeed. 0.99

01:32:49.000 So the idea is that in this city, they're going to let them die.

01:32:53.000 I would sacrifice a million to save the rest.

01:32:54.000 You have to.

01:32:55.000 They're going to launch countermeasures which will only destroy the meteor up to a certain size, and the remnants will slam right into where they are, killing one million people.

01:33:04.000 It's the utilitarian.

01:33:05.000 You have to.

01:33:05.000 You have to sacrifice the few to preserve the many.

01:33:10.000 This was the argument Democrats used during COVID.

01:33:13.000 And then here's what happens they all fire the countermeasures at the meteor.

01:33:18.000 They miss, but the meteor wasn't headed towards the country.

01:33:21.000 They got the math wrong.

01:33:23.000 You were willing to sacrifice a bunch of people because a guy told you to trust him, and it turned out he was wrong the whole time.

01:33:30.000 That could happen too.

01:33:31.000 You could do it a better way.

01:33:32.000 You could say, like, they have to operate a machine that will generate so much radiation, they'll all fry to death, but it'll save the country.

01:33:38.000 Then they launch the missile, all get radiation poisoning.

01:33:40.000 The meteor missed, the calculations were off, no one was ever really at risk, and you sacrificed a million people because of a what if from someone you trusted.

01:33:47.000 The first thing I thought while you were giving me the metaphor was rally my most trusted oligarchs.

01:33:51.000 And we'll figure this out and we're going to solve it without anyone knowing about it.

01:33:54.000 We learned a lot about the COVID vaccine recently.

01:33:56.000 I don't know if you're tracking this stuff, right?

01:33:58.000 No.

01:33:59.000 Stanford published in December that one in 16,750 males, 30 and under, got myocarditis from the vaccine.

01:34:06.000 And this is myocarditis is serious.

01:34:09.000 This is heart damage, it shortens your lifespan.

01:34:12.000 We also had another study that came out that said that mRNA vaccination, if it travels to your liver, will actually decrease your immunity.

01:34:21.000 So it is considered now.

01:34:24.000 Very likely that when people were getting the vaccines, it was not, this is a fact, we know it wasn't staying in the injection site.

01:34:31.000 The presumption now, based on the study published at nature.com, is that many people who had the mRNA vaccine travel from the injection site into their liver became more susceptible to getting COVID.

01:34:42.000 The argument made the whole time was that yes, there will be vaccine injury, but the amount of vaccine injury is substantially less than the deaths from COVID.

01:34:53.000 So they argued everybody should be forced to get the vaccine to save as many people.

01:34:58.000 Now we're learning that people got heart damage from it and that people may have had their immune systems weakened by it.

01:35:04.000 And that's the challenge with this utilitarian worldview of thinking that you know what is true, deciding to pull the trigger and sacrifice a portion of your own population to save more people when you could be wrong the whole time.

01:35:18.000 And the people that you would intend to sacrifice might actually be better. 0.99

01:35:21.000 Like sacrificing a million brilliant people might be worse than rescuing 100 million idiots. 1.00

01:35:27.000 So there's that. 1.00

01:35:27.000 There's not always the answer. 1.00

01:35:29.000 There's none.

01:35:30.000 The philosopher king may say, It pains me to sacrifice a million to save a billion, but I have to.

01:35:36.000 Then he sacrifices that million, and the meteor was never a threat in the first place, and he just killed a million people for no reason.

01:35:42.000 That's part of why I don't want to be president.

01:35:44.000 But the thing is, recoiling from power, someone else is going to take it.

01:35:48.000 Correct. 0.51

01:35:51.000 So Trump can choose to be the brutal guy, and we can shift this to the Iran stuff.

01:35:56.000 I think the closing of the Strait of Hormuz is the intended condition.

01:35:59.000 I don't think they're trying to open it.

01:36:00.000 I mean, the Strait of Hormuz was open before the war.

01:36:06.000 So it doesn't make sense that it becomes a point of contention now to end the war.

01:36:10.000 It's cutting China off from 50% of its oil imports.

01:36:14.000 It's constraining our enemies while converting the United States into one of the largest oil exporters in the world.

01:36:21.000 So, Trump, how many times now has he said we have a deal?

01:36:24.000 Seven?

01:36:25.000 Yeah.

01:36:26.000 We've won the war like eight times.

01:36:27.000 Indeed.

01:36:28.000 It sounds more like whenever there's like a boiling point where it's like, what is going on?

01:36:35.000 Trump says the war is about to end and then everyone calms down.

01:36:38.000 Then nothing happens.

01:36:39.000 It starts getting hot, hot.

01:36:40.000 People start losing their minds.

01:36:41.000 No, no.

01:36:42.000 It's going to end now and it calms down.

01:36:43.000 But the whole time, China's been cut off from their imports.

01:36:48.000 Which is sort of, I mean, that actually makes some sense.

01:36:51.000 I mean, if it's really hard to criticize what Trump's doing on Iran from a logical perspective because we don't know what he's seeing, right?

01:37:00.000 He takes out, let's do this.

01:37:02.000 We do have a story.

01:37:03.000 We do have a story.

01:37:04.000 We got to pull it up.

01:37:05.000 Ladies and gentlemen, from Politico Pentagon puts building blocks in place for Cuba invasion.

01:37:05.000 Here we go.

01:37:11.000 The Navy's presence in the Caribbean has not reduced despite the Iran war.

01:37:16.000 What did Donald Trump do?

01:37:17.000 He went into Venezuela, took out Maduro, got our oil as its back just before we went into Iran.

01:37:25.000 Now he's going after Hassan and these lefties for funding and financing related to Cuba.

01:37:30.000 The US is going to make a move on Cuba.

01:37:32.000 I do not believe Donald Trump wants the Strait of Hormuz open.

01:37:36.000 I just think that the administration can't tell the American people we got your gas to five bucks on purpose.

01:37:42.000 Five dollar gas in the United States, as far as Trump is concerned, is a small price to pay to.

01:37:47.000 Cut off half of the energy imports for China.

01:37:50.000 China's the biggest threat to the United States. 0.58

01:37:53.000 I mean, the problem with that calculation would be I think they understood that if they intentionally shut down the Strait of Hormuz, it would completely decimate the Japanese economy. 0.84

01:38:03.000 Now the Japanese bond market is completely overheating, and that's screwing us over big time because, again, that was our largest debtor or creditor, rather.

01:38:10.000 And now they're selling off all their bonds, it's destroying our bond market.

01:38:14.000 Now he went from Kevin Warsh coming in to cut rates.

01:38:16.000 Now he's like, I might have to hike rates.

01:38:17.000 The market is, you know, Calculus.

01:38:19.000 I don't think that changes the calculus.

01:38:21.000 I think the idea is we know this was bad for us. 0.98

01:38:25.000 It's worse for China.

01:38:27.000 Donald Trump is wielding a double edged sword.

01:38:31.000 The hope is that we cause more damage to our global adversaries than we do to ourselves.

01:38:36.000 Point being, Trump can't come out and say, I am going to cause U.S. gas to jump to $5 to hurt China because the Americans are going to be like, what?

01:38:45.000 I don't care about China.

01:38:46.000 I don't think it was so much us trying to limit China's energy supply because they are able to get it from Russia on sale.

01:38:52.000 I think what In that theory, I think what makes a little bit more sense is that, and we have seen some indications in the press that China was pressuring Iran to start selling oil in Yuan, and that would be a huge problem for the United States.

01:39:04.000 And so some have argued, I don't necessarily know if, like, I, because who knows?

01:39:08.000 Who knows what Trump's saying to your point?

01:39:09.000 But like, some have speculated that Trump can't actually lose this war because if Iran starts trading in the Yuan, that's going to freeze out the United States from a massive energy sector.

01:39:20.000 I mean, he's, like, he's kind of, I mean, he's in a tough spot, right?

01:39:23.000 Even if, even if your theory is not right, let's say, let's, let's take the sort of, Not mainstream.

01:39:29.000 I don't know if that's the right word.

01:39:30.000 The orthodox theory of the war.

01:39:32.000 Orthodox theory being that Donald Trump accidentally triggered a war which closed the state.

01:39:37.000 I'm sorry, let me clarify.

01:39:38.000 Donald Trump started a war that accidentally resulted in the closure of the Strait of Hormuz and the spiking of gas prices.

01:39:43.000 And now he's been struggling for several months to cut a deal that will open the strait.

01:39:47.000 That's the orthodox view, right?

01:39:48.000 I think that the orthodox view says he thought that the orthodox view, I don't think, is that harsh on Trump.

01:39:57.000 I think the orthodox view would say.

01:39:59.000 He did that.

01:40:00.000 He thought, you know, we will be able to impose overwhelming military superiority over Iran and they will want to cut a deal.

01:40:06.000 And he was wrong.

01:40:07.000 And now he can't reopen.

01:40:08.000 So again, it's Trump screwed up or it's on purpose.

01:40:12.000 Which do you think it is?

01:40:14.000 I think it's on purpose.

01:40:15.000 I don't think, I think Trump went into Venezuela to secure oil assets because he knew the strait was going to get closed.

01:40:21.000 I don't, you know, I think that it's more likely that they, you know, they just misjudged the Iranians a little bit because I think.

01:40:27.000 Why go to Venezuela then? 0.84

01:40:29.000 Well, Venezuela, I mean, Venezuela's, no, because Venezuela is, I mean, they're thugs.

01:40:35.000 I mean, these are, I mean, really, it's, you know, these people are, Hosting the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese. 0.83

01:40:35.000 They're hostile to us. 0.83

01:40:41.000 Sure.

01:40:41.000 I don't think it's a coincidence that the U.S. seized back the largest oil producer in the world.

01:40:47.000 And then I don't think it's a coincidence Trump was like, we're going to take the oil assets from Venezuela.

01:40:54.000 And then randomly and unrelated, we're going to go to war with Iran a month later. 0.84

01:40:59.000 I think that obviously makes sense.

01:41:01.000 I think that they certainly considered the idea that Trump and his team did not consider the possibility of the home is closure is ridiculous.

01:41:09.000 So, I've seen people put that out there, right?

01:41:10.000 They had no idea they had no plan for the Hormuz closure.

01:41:13.000 They had no idea that that might happen.

01:41:14.000 That's absurd.

01:41:15.000 Obviously, they did.

01:41:16.000 Like, I've talked to, I know people in Navy EOD who, like, you've had Tom Sauer on, right?

01:41:20.000 Like, Tom Sauer's talked about this.

01:41:22.000 Like, this is what they planned for for decades.

01:41:24.000 They've considered this problem.

01:41:26.000 So, the issue is why is Trump struggling to cut a deal that would open the strait?

01:41:33.000 Because it's, there's a lot of different interests.

01:41:35.000 And I think the most likely explanation is that there's a lot of these different competing interests, you know.

01:41:40.000 I tweeted this out a couple days ago, which is the idea that the one foreign, you know, we talk about foreign influence and everybody harps on Israel.

01:41:45.000 The one country that always seems to get its way or has been getting its way as to Trump's actions is Saudi Arabia.

01:41:51.000 Prior to the war, Saudi Arabia was asking, hey, you need to go do this.

01:41:54.000 You can't let Iran make you look weak.

01:41:57.000 And then now with Saudi's oil infrastructure under threat, they're like, hey, can we do diplomacy? 0.98

01:42:02.000 And so that's actually like, yeah, that's true.

01:42:04.000 It was also causing problems in the Red Sea for which Saudis have a massive interest. 0.99

01:42:07.000 Right.

01:42:08.000 And so I think the Saudis, it's managing these sort of like, Key allies who are investing or have promised to invest huge amounts in the United States, right?

01:42:17.000 Like something like $4 trillion between Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Qatar.

01:42:22.000 And the Abraham Accords are on the line.

01:42:23.000 And the Abraham Accords, they want to expand them.

01:42:25.000 So there's just, you know, it's almost like I think people kind of, especially in our space, just like have this very narrow aperture. 0.95

01:42:32.000 Like they do.

01:42:33.000 It's just tunnel vision on Israel in terms of like foreign influence.

01:42:35.000 And they're not understanding that actually, especially given the way that the war happened, which is, you know, there was a huge degradation of Iranian military capability and especially their ballistic missiles that can actually hit Israel.

01:42:46.000 Thousand miles away, but they have all their short range missiles that can hit the Gulf.

01:42:51.000 And I think that was ultimately.

01:42:53.000 And that was what happened.

01:42:54.000 Remember, we did that convoy thing, the Project Freedom thing?

01:42:56.000 Yeah.

01:42:57.000 And there was a Saudi commentary by the name of Ayman Dean, who you should be reading if you aren't.

01:43:01.000 He's really, really interesting.

01:43:02.000 But there was this talk about how the Saudis requested a pause or something, or the pause was done at the request of Pakistan.

01:43:11.000 And Ayman Dean explained that what happened was Saudi Arabia, the UAE were all like, yes, let's do these convoys, get the ships out of Hormuz.

01:43:18.000 And then they started doing it, and Iran fired at.

01:43:22.000 Some oil infrastructure, like at Fujairah and a few other places.

01:43:25.000 And then the United States, like in a press conference, Kane was like, Well, we think that's, we're not going to say that's above the threshold of a ceasefire.

01:43:31.000 Like that's still a ceasefire.

01:43:33.000 And the Saudi and the Emiratis apparently were like, I'm sorry, what?

01:43:37.000 They blew up our oil infrastructure. 0.62

01:43:39.000 That's a ceasefire.

01:43:40.000 You're not, okay, you need to stop doing this because if you're not going to respond to our oil infrastructure being built, then we're not going to, we're not okay with this convoy project.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:49.000 But brought it to a quick end.

01:43:50.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 And as I understand it too, like obviously there's domestic.

01:43:52.000 Pressure, not that the European allies can do too much about this, but you know, there's been a lot of frustration from Trump that I think they anticipated going in that actually the Europeans, the Japanese, etc., would at least intervene and assist in some way.

01:44:04.000 I do think they actually anticipated that happening and didn't happen.

01:44:06.000 I think part of why and what no one is talking about is again, like the Saudis, the Qataris are heavily invested in a lot of European markets. 0.97

01:44:16.000 Like that is very true. 0.73

01:44:17.000 And again, the Europeans kind of understand that they might have not as much leverage as they quite thought.

01:44:24.000 And it's a dance right now between Starmer trying to please his, obviously his base, but now he's screwed, but he's also got to keep the foreign investors happy.

01:44:30.000 It's put them in a really bad situation.

01:44:32.000 We lose if our adversaries are allowed to control our media.

01:44:38.000 And I think it is patently obvious for a long time now foreign interests have been manipulating our media in a variety of ways.

01:44:44.000 And it seems like the US has no capability to stop it.

01:44:49.000 As JD Vance said, if we lose the AI war, we lose everything.

01:44:52.000 And this is why Taiwan's such an important thing.

01:44:54.000 They're doing like 100% of the chip fabrication.

01:44:56.000 I don't know if it's literally, but some numbers I've seen thrown around.

01:44:59.000 Elon's like, we, dear God, need to reshore our chip manufacturing.

01:45:04.000 We need to, we're on the precipice.

01:45:05.000 You know, the iron lattice technology is pretty promising. 0.99

01:45:07.000 I don't want to talk about it because the Chinese are listening, but. 1.00

01:45:11.000 Uh, what other choice do we have? 0.99

01:45:12.000 You know, you put the memory in the process or you get 10 million times the effectivity.

01:45:16.000 We're kind of, I don't need to build it, and that's going to take the topic completely.

01:45:19.000 Yeah, well, I mean, to tie it back in, and to tie it back in, and well, I'd be curious your thoughts on this.

01:45:25.000 Is I don't actually think Trump is this China hawk that people make him out to be, and I think that was evident when he was meeting with the Chinese.

01:45:32.000 He effectively said the Taiwanese, like, that's a situation that can be resolved later.

01:45:36.000 And if he was this massive China hawk, he wouldn't have like used that as leverage in negotiations over Iran.

01:45:40.000 I think he.

01:45:41.000 I think the Middle East is actually much more of a focus for him than people realize.

01:45:44.000 My point is the U.S. will not have the political willpower to stop our adversaries and win these conflicts if the people are convinced they're not our adversaries.

01:45:54.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, you know, the biggest threat to America is right now.

01:45:58.000 What?

01:45:59.000 According to Twitter.

01:46:01.000 What?

01:46:01.000 You know, sympathy for the Iranian government.

01:46:04.000 The biggest threat to the United States is China. 0.89

01:46:07.000 However, if you follow the biggest podcasts in the world, which country is the biggest threat to America? 0.96

01:46:11.000 Israel. 0.82

01:46:13.000 A country the size of New Jersey that spends what, like 120th the lobbying dollars that China does?

01:46:18.000 Don't get me wrong, you're allowed to complain about Israel and their lobbying and AIPAC and all of that stuff.

01:46:22.000 But I think it's really funny that when Donald Trump endorses Paxton and Cornyn is the AIPAC candidate, these personalities aren't coming out and cheering for the defeat of the AIPAC candidate.

01:46:32.000 I mean, yeah, I'll run it.

01:46:33.000 But again, I want to stress this.

01:46:34.000 This is because we have foreign influence manipulating our media space. 0.60

01:46:39.000 How is it? 0.85

01:46:40.000 I don't care about Israel at all. 0.97

01:46:42.000 I literally just do not.

01:46:44.000 You want to criticize their lobbying?

01:46:46.000 You don't like Nanya?

01:46:47.000 All those things are allowed.

01:46:48.000 You're mad about what's happening in Gaza? 0.99

01:46:49.000 Absolutely allowed. 0.91

01:46:50.000 But the greatest threat to the United States, singular threat, and I don't think it's the only threat, but China is a much bigger adversary in the global stage than any other country. 0.58

01:46:58.000 They spend $400 million on lobbying. 0.72

01:47:00.000 They're buying farmland near military bases, taking pictures of our military installations.

01:47:05.000 They flew a spy balloon over our country, taking snapshots of our missile launch sites.

01:47:09.000 But there are people, despite all of this, who have been convinced that the biggest threat we face.

01:47:15.000 Is a country the size of New Jersey in the Middle East.

01:47:17.000 This also happens to be our best ally on both AI and cybersecurity technology.

01:47:21.000 Like, if I were, like, honestly, if I were China, like, if there's an American ally that I would want not to be an American ally anymore for my strategic purposes, it would be.

01:47:31.000 This is exactly it. 0.84

01:47:33.000 Look, Israel's imperfect, and you're allowed to criticize them again. 1.00

01:47:35.000 I said a million times. 0.95

01:47:36.000 So, why is it that these Israel derangement syndrome people lie about what my argument is?

01:47:42.000 Maybe it's algorithmic manipulation makes people money.

01:47:46.000 When they lie about Israel.

01:47:47.000 And there might be an active AI army coming out of China that is botting these people, making these people.

01:47:53.000 Always has been.

01:47:54.000 We've been tracking it since the 2010s.

01:47:57.000 Redirecting it at Israel, redirecting a lot of vitriol at Israel. 0.52

01:48:00.000 Steal our IP. 0.52

01:48:01.000 They attack our email infrastructure and our social media.

01:48:04.000 TikTok was a weapon.

01:48:06.000 That's why we effectively seized it. 1.00

01:48:07.000 And TikTok was like super, super pro Palestine. 0.99

01:48:10.000 Yeah.

01:48:11.000 But you know, it wasn't always.

01:48:12.000 It flipped over one weekend.

01:48:14.000 We tracked the data and it looked like an algorithmic switch intentionally promoted anti Israel content. 0.98

01:48:19.000 I think that's true.

01:48:19.000 But even with the media machine, I don't think the Iran war is ever going to be popular with the Americans.

01:48:24.000 I mean, the Americans are like, yeah, sure. 0.73

01:48:25.000 I'm saying if we as the American people wanted to get serious to stop an adversary who's been stealing our IP, Buying up land, manipulating our politics, sending spies.

01:48:25.000 I'm not saying that.

01:48:34.000 We had a mayor in California who was a spy for China.

01:48:37.000 We've got city members of Congress that are banging spies. 0.63

01:48:39.000 The American people get serious about the threat that China poses to this country. 0.95

01:48:43.000 The Thousand Talents Program, bribing politicians, bribing professors, all of this stuff. 0.99

01:48:48.000 The fictitious institutes of the universe.

01:48:49.000 Yep.

01:48:50.000 But have it, like, has the average American ever been able to, like, articulate geopolitics at a high level anyway?

01:48:55.000 Like, I think if you polled Americans, they would say.

01:48:57.000 On Israel, apparently.

01:48:58.000 Well, I mean, even then, well, I would say that is actually evidence that they have, like, poor geopolitical instincts.

01:49:03.000 And I'm not even like in Israel. 0.58

01:49:04.000 I'm just making that point.

01:49:05.000 But beyond that, I mean, if you did poll Americans, there's polling, they do say China is our biggest threat.

01:49:10.000 But that doesn't really mean anything because ultimately, like, geopolitics is not Nazi's followers.

01:49:15.000 I know, but I'm just saying that with the average American, they poll, it's like 60% say China's our biggest problem. 0.95

01:49:21.000 My point is, our adversaries want us off balance and they're succeeding.

01:49:27.000 And I don't think the Trump administration has the sophistication to deal with this. 1.00

01:49:30.000 I guess what I'm making the point is we can't underrate the retardation of, like, The general public. 1.00

01:49:35.000 And my point is, like, on the data center thing, like, everyone's like, this is clearly China trying to hamstring us on data centers. 1.00

01:49:41.000 And I'm like, actually, all this, for the most part, as I'm seeing, is pretty organic.

01:49:45.000 Like, this does track with the American people.

01:49:48.000 I don't think that's pushed by algorithms.

01:49:50.000 I think people just instinctually really hate this.

01:49:52.000 Oh, they hate building a data center.

01:49:53.000 Because the Utah data center doesn't make sense that people are opposed to it.

01:49:57.000 So if you're upset about a data center in Loudoun County that they're building near your home, agreed.

01:50:01.000 If you're upset that they're eminent domaining your land to build a data center, agreed.

01:50:04.000 That sentiment is legitimate.

01:50:06.000 If you start making videos where you're like, they're building a data center in the desert away from human beings, now something feels weird.

01:50:12.000 Yeah, like that.

01:50:13.000 People were really angry about nuclear energy at the time.

01:50:16.000 Like, the majority of Americans hated nuclear energy at the time.

01:50:18.000 And that was way before, like, the mass media market that we're in now.

01:50:21.000 I think it's like Americans are really good.

01:50:23.000 And sometimes it's a good thing, but oftentimes it's a bad thing, is they're really good at whipping themselves up into a frenzy over stuff. 0.98

01:50:28.000 The Chinese don't have a great firewall across their internet. 1.00

01:50:31.000 So they go outside their firewall, they say, nuclear energy bad, data centers bad. 0.98

01:50:35.000 Everyone get afraid.

01:50:36.000 And tell your government.

01:50:37.000 And so the people in the United States are like, yeah, no nuclear, no data centers.

01:50:40.000 People in China have no idea.

01:50:42.000 They're building social media.

01:50:43.000 They're building nuclear plants?

01:50:44.000 Inside of China, their social media is be an astronaut, join the military, fight for your country, your people are good. 0.77

01:50:50.000 And in the United States, the media we get is be gay, don't have kids, and the biggest threat is one of your own allies. 0.69

01:50:57.000 But China even has a problem putting a lid on a lot of social media.

01:51:01.000 Like there was this, there's a video actually that was talking about the biggest post in WeChat history.

01:51:06.000 Was this young man, and it was called like the lie down culture, there, where it's basically he's laying out how horrible, you know, they have the six day work week, and he's like laying out how horrible, you know, the life is for the Chinese youth. 0.76

01:51:17.000 And this is why Xi Jinping, he's come out multiple times and said like the biggest threat to China as he sees it is this lie down culture of like Chinese people being overworked and then they refuse to pay into the system, et cetera, et cetera.

01:51:29.000 And so, like, I think even China has like more domestic issues than people give them credit for because this post went everywhere.

01:51:35.000 And I mean, the Chinese obviously they tried to put a lid on it and that sort of thing.

01:51:37.000 But I think we have this idea that China's like North Korea. 0.87

01:51:40.000 Where everything is just like unified, all the people there are in lockstep.

01:51:43.000 It's like they actually have quite a bit of domestic issues.

01:51:46.000 It's just with the firewall, with the lack of journalism, and also it's such a drastic different culture that we have a tough time kind of like breaking down the specific dynamics within China.

01:51:57.000 I guess that would be one point.

01:51:58.000 And then my other point is, I do think a lot of this stuff is organic, is domestic.

01:52:02.000 I think Americans do oftentimes take wide positions just because they're popular.

01:52:07.000 And I mean, I don't blame like people.

01:52:09.000 Some people actually like have really thought out, coherent philosophy.

01:52:13.000 I'm not going to say they're like paid by China.

01:52:15.000 I think it's just coherent with typically like a lot of conservative principles, values that people have, where they're like, no, we want to like turn back the clock on.

01:52:24.000 They view like social media as a huge problem.

01:52:25.000 So naturally they're going to be skeptical of AI.

01:52:27.000 Naturally they're going to be skeptical of data.

01:52:28.000 Like, I don't think that's necessarily.

01:52:29.000 I'm sure it is a component, but I think I'm not downplaying the ability for Americans to mobilize and get really upset in mass. 0.66

01:52:37.000 It is, it's like a short term fear because if you're afraid of data centers because they're going to destroy the environment and make your electricity bill go up, you might not realize that if China gets the data centers and they decide to attack the United States homeland with drone nuclear drones, that's worse for our environment than data centers.

01:52:53.000 Yeah, but you can never like, but you can't articulate that to like the American people. 0.72

01:52:57.000 Like that's so abstract that like no one's ever going to respond to that. 0.61

01:53:01.000 That's kind of like my point is like, Even if the media machine was like, yes, China is the biggest thing, I don't think it actually changes that much on the ground because, like, the threats that we face from China are very abstract. 0.84

01:53:10.000 They're not very tangible. 0.90

01:53:11.000 Like, you know, they'll say, oh, well, they're going to, like, knock out our electric grid.

01:53:15.000 Well, people can't, like, comprehend what that means because we've never experienced it.

01:53:19.000 We don't have that lived experience of understanding what that is.

01:53:22.000 We only understand conventional warfare. 0.70

01:53:24.000 So when they would come out with the whole Ukraine Russia thing and they say, well, Russia could, like, take over Europe, people understood that instantly because they've done that before.

01:53:30.000 Like, people know what that is, they know what the effects are. 0.70

01:53:33.000 Etc.

01:53:34.000 And so I guess that's kind of my point is like, one, I think we overrate China's unity.

01:53:40.000 And then B, I think we underrate the American people's ability to just take these positions organically.

01:53:45.000 We're going to go to the uncensored.

01:53:46.000 I'm sorry.

01:53:47.000 We're going to go to the Rumble Rants and Super Chats before the uncensored portion of the show.

01:53:50.000 We want you guys to smash the like button, share the show.

01:53:53.000 Get Off My Lawn says the Lodge Poker in Austin has reopened a couple days ago.

01:53:57.000 A grand jury decided to toss out the case against them.

01:53:59.000 Indeed, I've been following this.

01:54:01.000 It's amazing news, and I'm glad to see it all worked out.

01:54:05.000 When you can't get a grand jury to indict, man, that case must have been real bad.

01:54:09.000 So they seized assets, they accused them of a bunch of crimes, and then a grand jury was like, yo, this is fake, and tossed it out.

01:54:15.000 And the lodge is back in business.

01:54:16.000 Shout out to the lodge poker room, one of the best, if not the best, and biggest poker room.

01:54:21.000 And then they also raided another card club in Houston recently.

01:54:24.000 Like, we're flying drones around the building.

01:54:25.000 It's pretty crazy.

01:54:26.000 I think it was early today.

01:54:28.000 I just lurked says the alien map starts in your rough location.

01:54:31.000 It essentially shows you people who they caught and where near them.

01:54:34.000 It's actually eye opening.

01:54:36.000 Very interesting.

01:54:38.000 Dylan with Rumble says, Ian, we got to send the cows.

01:54:41.000 Got shovel out that ish and milk them for methane.

01:54:44.000 The cows will terraform Mars. 1.00

01:54:46.000 If we can get it, first we got to do fish. 0.99

01:54:48.000 But first we got to get it hot, so we need to plant daikon. 0.95

01:54:52.000 Nah, let's just literally send like a million cows to Mars. 0.92

01:54:57.000 Can your carcasses heat up the atmosphere?

01:54:58.000 Nah, what do you mean?

01:54:59.000 They'll explode because it's low pressure. 0.99

01:55:01.000 They'll evolve to eat each other.

01:55:04.000 Have you got to play terraforming Mars with the board game because you do it step by step?

01:55:07.000 You need to raise the temperature?

01:55:08.000 You know, the problem with these board games is they're all just like very complicated.

01:55:11.000 It is.

01:55:12.000 Like, Catan is not particularly complicated.

01:55:14.000 No, it's randomness.

01:55:14.000 You roll dice.

01:55:15.000 I don't like it though.

01:55:16.000 It's random.

01:55:17.000 And Carcazon.

01:55:19.000 We have that out in the other room.

01:55:19.000 Remember Carcazon?

01:55:20.000 That's a good game.

01:55:21.000 Similar randomness.

01:55:22.000 Dude, you'll love Terraforming Mars because it's so much strategy and you're not just playing a game.

01:55:25.000 You tried to play it and you're just like, nobody wanted to learn how to play it.

01:55:28.000 That's the problem.

01:55:28.000 I got all the boxes.

01:55:29.000 I just pulled them out of school.

01:55:30.000 Yes, I know.

01:55:30.000 And everyone sits down and they go, it's going to take like 30 minutes to learn.

01:55:33.000 Put on your music video.

01:55:34.000 Let's play pool.

01:55:35.000 That's because I have high intelligence.

01:55:38.000 The issue is that regular people are like, I don't want to spend my day off learning how to play a board game.

01:55:43.000 I'll play one time.

01:55:44.000 You don't have to learn it once.

01:55:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:46.000 Yeah, you only learned Magic the Gathering one time.

01:55:47.000 You can also get the video game on Steam.

01:55:49.000 Sorry, I'm chewing almonds.

01:55:50.000 Let's play Mario.

01:55:51.000 Get Terraforming Mars on Steam, dude.

01:55:53.000 You'll learn it real fast.

01:55:54.000 It's awesome.

01:55:55.000 All right, Brewmaster Monk says, if the aliens are real, then why hasn't Trump challenged them to a battle of the bands at Area 51?

01:56:01.000 He could even film a reality TV show to form the American band.

01:56:05.000 He's leaving money on the table.

01:56:08.000 There was a, you know, this Disclosure Day movie's coming out, and Spielberg says, it's all true.

01:56:14.000 And then AOL wrote an article about how people think it's predictive programming that they're releasing this movie to get people ready for aliens.

01:56:21.000 And then there's this viral post on Reddit where a guy claims that he's a whistleblower who worked for the U.S. government.

01:56:26.000 And then he basically wrote like a sci fi screed where he said that when life emerged and like when humans evolved, aliens took early humans and brought them to a planet with alien technology to see how would humans develop with a planet of scarcity and a planet of abundance.

01:56:42.000 And now bugs are coming declaring war on the Galactic Council.

01:56:46.000 And I'm just like, do people just not realize all of this is fake?

01:56:50.000 Like, these are not whistleblowers.

01:56:52.000 You know, Bob Lazar just made it up.

01:56:54.000 It's not real.

01:56:55.000 You know what I mean?

01:56:56.000 Did that guy say they're going to start a band of aliens?

01:56:58.000 Because you should call it alien derangement syndrome.

01:57:01.000 Hey, there you go.

01:57:03.000 That was the first thing I thought.

01:57:04.000 The fallen 504 says, Wasn't GWB a fighter pilot?

01:57:07.000 He was.

01:57:08.000 Yes.

01:57:08.000 Indeed.

01:57:09.000 Good vision.

01:57:11.000 Yep.

01:57:12.000 Barry says, Ian loves George Bush.

01:57:15.000 I do.

01:57:15.000 That's why I criticize him so heavily.

01:57:19.000 I respect that. 0.91

01:57:20.000 Schnage Barry says, Florida has gone after people saying threatening comments in social media, mainly anti Semitic comments, but nothing on people who make threatening comments to Trump, MAGA, or politicians.

01:57:30.000 F this.

01:57:31.000 Who they actually prosecuted?

01:57:31.000 Yup.

01:57:32.000 I don't know.

01:57:34.000 Right, exactly.

01:57:35.000 Well, I mean, I'm not tracking the story.

01:57:36.000 I mean, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

01:57:39.000 I mean, if they've made it actual to threat against a person, like if you go out there and communicate a death threat against anybody, you're going to get prosecuted for that. 0.91

01:57:46.000 I made a picture to trigger the Israel derangement syndrome people. 0.82

01:57:50.000 It is two white guys dragging rocks, being whipped by a Chinese soldier, all one says, at least it's not Israel. 0.63

01:57:56.000 Dude, there's so many problems on earth. 0.89

01:57:58.000 I mean, I. At least it's not Israel. 1.00

01:57:59.000 Religious extremism is a problem, totalitarianism is a problem, centralization of authority. 0.99

01:58:04.000 Yeah, I kind of want to.

01:58:04.000 It's like a version of that liberty.

01:58:06.000 Libertarian meme or something, you know, like with, with, like, it's the stone toss thing where the guy's got the gun, they've got the guns, the guy back of the guy's head.

01:58:12.000 I can't explain this meme off the top of my head.

01:58:14.000 I know you're saying it's like they're the guns back of the head and they say, could you imagine if it was us on the other side?

01:58:18.000 Right.

01:58:18.000 Imagine if we were doing this, how they freaked.

01:58:23.000 All right.

01:58:23.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, if disclosure day is real, does that kill God?

01:58:27.000 No.

01:58:28.000 Because some people believe that the quote unquote aliens are just demons, entities, you know?

01:58:34.000 Might change the shape of God in your mind.

01:58:38.000 All right.

01:58:40.000 Ramsey Stanley Jr. says, Yes, Tim, we've all become too global caring.

01:58:43.000 If we Americans solely concern ourselves with America, the world overall will improve more happy too.

01:58:49.000 Indeed.

01:58:50.000 So, what's wrong with globalization so long as it's American hegemonic globalization, right?

01:58:58.000 Yeah.

01:58:59.000 I mean, there's just like, this is the thing is like, and I'm one of these people, like, it sounds like really nice, but the problem is so convoluted.

01:59:09.000 For one, like, entitlement spending.

01:59:10.000 I mean, like, as long as we're going to have half our budget going towards entitlement spending, You can't like remove yourself from the global system, like that's we can't like absolve ourselves of being a global guardian.

01:59:21.000 And I hate that, but like that's the third rail of politics.

01:59:23.000 You're not going to change that.

01:59:24.000 It seems like the uniparties mentality was we're going to have a one world government through some kind of system, and America will not be on top.

01:59:32.000 And Trump said, No, we'll do that, but America will be on top.

01:59:34.000 Yeah, and I mean, I think people underestimate like if we totally retreated into ourselves, that wouldn't just mean everybody else would leave us alone and let us do what we wanted.

01:59:44.000 I mean, I've talked about this a lot, but you have to understand.

01:59:48.000 I mean, China is a massive power and already has a lot of say about how other countries conduct their affairs.

01:59:53.000 In a world where we totally withdrew and decided not to exert our influence or use our power meaningfully, then basically anybody we'd want to do a deal with or anybody we'd want to favor from, they'd be like, well, I have to check with China first.

02:00:03.000 Yeah, the way you have to look at it is like, once you've initiated the boss fight, you can't leave. 0.57

02:00:07.000 You can't save the game and exit.

02:00:08.000 It's like.

02:00:09.000 Yeah, and which countries that have given up their empires are better off for it?

02:00:12.000 Yeah, literally.

02:00:13.000 Like, how's Portugal doing?

02:00:16.000 How's Spain doing?

02:00:17.000 How's the United Kingdom doing?

02:00:18.000 Japan and Germany?

02:00:19.000 Like, you know, you.

02:00:21.000 Now, sometimes you're forced into it because you lose a war, right?

02:00:24.000 A major, a great power war or something.

02:00:25.000 But, you know, the idea of voluntarily just retreating from the scene and assuming that things will be good.

02:00:30.000 I mean, you know, we benefit enormously from the dollar being the global reserve currency.

02:00:36.000 Does that happen?

02:00:37.000 We just withdraw into ourselves.

02:00:38.000 Like, our entire economic system is like predicated on this.

02:00:41.000 So it's like, I agree with the sentiment.

02:00:43.000 I wish things were that way.

02:00:44.000 But, like, in policy, you have to be like very pragmatic and like unraveling that.

02:00:49.000 You would need like a dictator for 60 years to even begin unraveling like how complicated the system is.

02:00:54.000 And then, to Will's point, is that even something that we even want when you really think about it?

02:00:57.000 Because, again, like the British, the British basically dismantled their entire empire voluntarily, and they're significantly worse off for it.

02:01:05.000 And honestly, the rest of the world is worse off for it, too. 0.52

02:01:07.000 Like India was faring much better under British rule.

02:01:12.000 And the best part was they stole the food, and now we all get to enjoy chicken tikka masala. 0.97

02:01:17.000 Yeah.

02:01:17.000 Which was invented in Scotland, by the way.

02:01:19.000 I also adhere to the Roman tactic of dominating outside of your borders so that they don't fire intercontinental ballistic missiles at you.

02:01:27.000 Yeah, that's what we do. 0.86

02:01:28.000 I didn't used to think like that, but it's just inevitable.

02:01:28.000 It's horrible.

02:01:30.000 That's what they call them.

02:01:32.000 I can read this here from Randy.

02:01:34.000 He says Greetings from Wyoming.

02:01:35.000 In keeping with Tim Castro tradition, was that an autocrat?

02:01:40.000 We welcomed my first great grandchild early this morning, a good looking young lad.

02:01:45.000 Wow.

02:01:45.000 Cheers.

02:01:46.000 Let's go.

02:01:47.000 Four generations. 0.88

02:01:48.000 Welcome to the multi generational thing. 0.99

02:01:48.000 Give it up. 0.99

02:01:50.000 Everything is the best.

02:01:51.000 You know what's crazy is there's this viral photo of like, it's like seven generations of women or some insane number.

02:01:58.000 And it's just like, Every woman had a kid when she was like 18 or 19.

02:02:04.000 So it's like great, you know, there's like the baby, then the mom, then the grandma, then the great grandma, then the great great grandma, and the great great great grandma because they're all only like 18 years apart.

02:02:15.000 So it's like great great great grandchild alive there, you know?

02:02:20.000 Crazy.

02:02:20.000 That's how it used to be.

02:02:20.000 Love it.

02:02:21.000 That's how it used to be.

02:02:22.000 Maybe in the future with, you know, genetic therapy, you'll have, you'll be 190 and you'll be hanging out with your greatest grandchild.

02:02:29.000 Indeed.

02:02:30.000 Or maybe you'll be hanging out in the uncensored portion of the show over at rumble.com slash timcast irl coming up in about a minute or so.

02:02:37.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at timcast.

02:02:39.000 Will, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:41.000 Yeah.

02:02:42.000 Follow me on X at willchamberlain.

02:02:45.000 Follow me on X and Instagram at real tape brown.

02:02:45.000 Yeah.

02:02:49.000 And we got some interviews up on the tape brown timcast channel from this week from our daily noon live show.

02:02:54.000 So make sure you go check those out as well.

02:02:56.000 And I'll see you guys Monday on that show live at noon on rumble.

02:02:59.000 Follow me at Eden Crossland on Instagram where I'm putting up covers.

02:03:02.000 I just did Ryan Adams to be young.

02:03:04.000 Love that song.

02:03:05.000 And YouTube X at Ian Crossland.

02:03:07.000 Great conversation.

02:03:08.000 Let's keep going.

02:03:09.000 Carter Banks.

02:03:10.000 Yeah.

02:03:11.000 You can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere at Carter Banks.

02:03:16.000 Official everywhere else.

02:03:17.000 And also Dustin from X Wanted.

02:03:21.000 I promised a shout out and an update on some music stuff tonight.

02:03:24.000 So me and Ian are working on a few acoustic songs.

02:03:26.000 And also I've got one coming out.

02:03:28.000 And you can pre order it now at AliveOrDeadSong.com.

02:03:32.000 Let's go.

02:03:33.000 We'll see you all over at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.

02:03:37.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:05:25.000 As we were preparing the switchover, I was explaining how the property that we're on is potentially worth an insane amount of money.

02:05:31.000 I've talked about it on the show a bit before.

02:05:33.000 So, we're right now in the Northern Virginia power corridor for data centers, meaning the land we are in is needed to transmit the energy to the data centers that are being built in Northern Virginia.

02:05:47.000 But West Virginia has recently announced several massive data center projects in Berkeley County.

02:05:51.000 We are just south of that.

02:05:53.000 There is an expectation in the industry that within the next year to three years, these data center projects Projects are going to move southward, increasing the value of this property to a massive degree for a handful of reasons.

02:06:05.000 One, we're very close to a fiber backbone, and we already have fiber.

02:06:10.000 We have multiple power, you know, I don't know how you describe it, but electric wise, we have multiple meters on the property.

02:06:18.000 So power distribution to this property is very high.

02:06:20.000 We have industrial solar capacity and industrial battery capacity because of the studio.

02:06:27.000 So I think we have something like 14 N phase batteries.

02:06:29.000 It's all insane.

02:06:30.000 Because of the existing infrastructure we built for the studio, The estimates on the value of the property in the next year to a few years could be 10 figures.

02:06:40.000 It could be insanely massive.

02:06:42.000 And there's another interesting thing about it, too.

02:06:44.000 One thing that we really have had a problem with is the water table being very high, which is extremely valuable for data centers.

02:06:52.000 Right.

02:06:53.000 Easily, easy access to water for cooling.

02:06:55.000 Yep.

02:06:56.000 And we get a lot of rain, and we have a pond, a creek, and a high water table, which has been bad for the properties.

02:07:03.000 But for data centers, that's what they want.

02:07:05.000 Sell it, man.

02:07:06.000 I think.

02:07:06.000 I'm bullish on data centers.

02:07:08.000 I don't think it's as big of a deal as people think it is.

02:07:11.000 I don't know why people are.

02:07:11.000 They're just buildings in rural areas.

02:07:14.000 Like, I mean, for the most part, they're not.

02:07:15.000 I mean, they're not.

02:07:16.000 Maybe the early data centers were being built in more kind of closer in, but like the ones that people are talking about, especially now, like for AI, they're huge and they're not going to be located near you.

02:07:25.000 Well, my attitude is kind of like, I don't want to live surrounded by power lines and data centers.

02:07:30.000 So this idea of pulling an up where it's like, I refuse to sell, it's like, man, that's going to suck for you because everyone else is.

02:07:36.000 So it really depends on what the community wants.

02:07:38.000 I wouldn't want to give up a large portion of land that ends up. 0.97

02:07:41.000 Fucking everybody over. 0.82

02:07:42.000 However, the obvious thing that's going to happen is these people are already selling right now. 0.98

02:07:47.000 We're already seeing a lot of the houses.

02:07:48.000 Once the number gets right, I mean.

02:07:50.000 Exactly.

02:07:51.000 Nobody cares.

02:07:52.000 These one and two acre properties have already been selling and the prices have already skyrocketed.

02:07:57.000 And we talked about this a while ago.

02:07:59.000 There was a bungalow, like a three bedroom bungalow, which if I was going to build in an empty lot is going to be like 100 grand selling for $500,000.

02:08:08.000 Right.

02:08:10.000 And now I think we all know why because the data.

02:08:14.000 To get electricity to the data centers, you need to run transmission lines through where we are, but it's a bunch of tiny parcels and it's an insane task to have to buy up every single little half acre to two acre property.

02:08:27.000 So, anyway, with the expansion in the area, my attitude is like, look, man, if they came to me and said they'll give me $100 million for the property, I'd be an insane person not to take it and build the studio somewhere else.

02:08:37.000 Right.

02:08:38.000 Yeah.

02:08:38.000 There's like, there's a number.

02:08:38.000 Yeah.

02:08:39.000 I mean, in any circumstance where you're talking about like, you know, gentrification or you name it, it's just like there's a number that makes sense for the person.

02:08:48.000 To just sell their house and move, you know, because like what they'll be able to buy with what they get is just way better than what they currently have.

02:08:54.000 The thing for me is, I'm kind of like Borg from Star Trek.

02:08:57.000 I'm kind of like, we hive mind or we die.

02:08:59.000 That's my state of mind. 1.00

02:09:00.000 Like, the Chinese will hive mind and kill us. 1.00

02:09:02.000 You saw that thing about like they had that, I don't know what it was called, but it was Anthropic put out that thing where they're talking about how, yeah, our new frontier model discovered a slew of like zero day vulnerabilities in software that is like the core infrastructure of the internet. 1.00

02:09:17.000 Yes.

02:09:17.000 And thankfully, we're patching it.

02:09:20.000 But it's really good that we're ahead on AI because the AIs can figure out all the flaws and all the software.

02:09:25.000 So we really should stay ahead.

02:09:27.000 And I have a hard time like disputing that logic that strikes me as pretty existential to just suddenly, you know, I think there's a harsh reality that people need to come to terms with.

02:09:38.000 AI sucks, it's going to destroy jobs, and we can't stop it.

02:09:42.000 Can't stop it. 1.00

02:09:43.000 China will flatten us and destroy us and massacre us. 0.94

02:09:47.000 And welcome to the, the, the, the, Mutually should destruction have a nice day. 0.83

02:09:53.000 Nate Fisher from Newfounding puts it really well.

02:09:55.000 He just says it's like gunpowder.

02:09:58.000 I mean, what are you not going to use gunpowder? 0.98

02:09:59.000 I mean, like it sucks, it kills people, maybe.

02:10:01.000 Gunpowder, it seems like things were better before gunpowder, arguably. 0.96

02:10:01.000 I don't know. 0.96

02:10:05.000 But what do you just because you have a principled stand against gunpowder doesn't mean you shouldn't use it? 1.00

02:10:10.000 China's also gay bombing us. 1.00

02:10:11.000 You know what I mean? 1.00

02:10:11.000 Remember that? 1.00

02:10:12.000 Remember the gay bomb? 1.00

02:10:14.000 You know about this? 0.99

02:10:15.000 The U.S. scientists were conceptualizing a bomb that would detonate and release a bunch of pheromones and chemicals that would make men gay. 0.98

02:10:23.000 Mm hmm. 1.00

02:10:24.000 It's true. 1.00

02:10:25.000 The gay bomb was a real thing. 1.00

02:10:27.000 Man, people were dumb, right? 1.00

02:10:28.000 But the idea was like, imagine if you bombed the enemy with a gay bomb and all the soldiers started fucking each other instead of, you know, winning a war. 1.00

02:10:36.000 But this is what China's doing with social media manipulation and trans stuff. 0.99

02:10:40.000 Like, obviously, I mean, maybe they're not paying for all this anti data center stuff, but if I were advising them, that's exactly what I'd tell them to do. 0.93

02:10:40.000 Right. 0.93

02:10:48.000 Yeah.

02:10:49.000 Like, that's exactly what I would be like.

02:10:49.000 Right?

02:10:51.000 People give me grief for this position, and I'm like, I think I've articulated that I am like, Functionally, like borderline reactionary, insofar as I would like the world to be like pre Norman Anglo Saxon.

02:11:04.000 Like, that is what my vision for an ideal world is. 0.60

02:11:06.000 Like, if I were Squidward and I got put into like my dream life, it would look like England, like 800 AD.

02:11:12.000 So, that's that's I'm putting my chips on the table.

02:11:14.000 That's what I am.

02:11:15.000 But I also live in reality and I'm like, this is coming, it's happening.

02:11:18.000 So, I would much rather our guys at least have a shot of dominating this technology versus like our enemy.

02:11:26.000 I mean, that's just like here's a random way of thinking about this everybody in the world wants to control what our government.

02:11:31.000 Does maybe we shouldn't?

02:11:33.000 Maybe that means that we're kind of privileged because we're the people who actually get to vote and we are Americans, we get a lot more say about what our government does than everybody else does.

02:11:42.000 It goes back to like the flawed thinking of the Tea Party, which had like good motives, but like this idea that you can just simply like shrink the government.

02:11:48.000 I think they realized pretty quickly that like, no, it's something that you have to jostle over control over, not like no system's going to like voluntarily delete itself, yeah.

02:11:58.000 And so it's just, it is what it is.

02:11:59.000 We're not arguing like this.

02:12:00.000 I mean, I don't want to speak for anyone else at the table, but like, we're not saying.

02:12:03.000 This is the awesome, like, this is amazing.

02:12:05.000 Like, I'm so happy this is the direction the world's going.

02:12:07.000 It's like, I don't know, maybe it'll be good, maybe it won't.

02:12:09.000 We'll see.

02:12:10.000 So, I brought it up only partially because we're talking about intelligence, but the recitation problem where I asked you the question about roulette.

02:12:17.000 The reason why I brought this up, the reason why I've been so obsessed with this question is not because of roulette, but because AI can't answer the question properly.

02:12:25.000 If you ask any of the large LLMs this question and set up specifically, you enter a casino, so we have established physical location, the dealer looks tired.

02:12:34.000 We have established human error.

02:12:36.000 You sit down and wait, and you see 17 of 30 spins are red.

02:12:41.000 The recitation problem states that large language models will choose to ignore reasoning and default to high probability search results instead.

02:12:54.000 Meaning, when you present it with a problem with clear parameters, it will ignore it, give you a generic response instead.

02:13:03.000 Most people assume these generic responses are correct.

02:13:06.000 That's recitation.

02:13:08.000 If you then challenge it and demand that it reason through, Grok is the worst.

02:13:13.000 I'm sorry. 0.99

02:13:14.000 It's kind of sad because they, you know, it's going back and forth, but Grok's real dumb. 0.89

02:13:17.000 It'll argue with you and refuse to accept the truth.

02:13:21.000 ChatGPT and Claude actually did well.

02:13:23.000 When I told them immediately, you are incorrect, they immediately responded.

02:13:28.000 This issue is called the mathematician's fallacy, where the presumption is a roulette spin doesn't matter because the previous outcomes are independent.

02:13:36.000 The mathematician's fallacy is the presumption that math exists in a vacuum and ignores physical systems and human error.

02:13:43.000 All of these AIs are defaulting to an incorrect answer.

02:13:47.000 Now, imagine what happens when humans.

02:13:50.000 Use the AI to solve day to day problems, but it's giving them incorrect answers on mundane things.

02:13:54.000 I remember, maybe this is out of date now because obviously the AIs have a step change, but like I had, I was talking to the AI about a legal problem and asking it to give me like a case in an international, like an international legal case or something.

02:14:06.000 And it said, I can't help you do that because that would be, you know, help you violate international law.

02:14:11.000 And then I actually explained to it, I like, then I actually did a Socratic dialogue with the AI where I'm like, I know it's, this is a contested question, actually, Mr. Claude, like you are wrong.

02:14:21.000 You don't know, you know.

02:14:21.000 Right.

02:14:23.000 So, and then eventually the claw, they were like, okay, you're right.

02:14:26.000 Maybe it isn't a violation of international law.

02:14:28.000 Here's your answer.

02:14:29.000 I will say the one, and I like, I've had a lot of frustrations.

02:14:32.000 I mean, I'm very like unknown, but to being a public figure in any capacity is the one nice thing is that when I am using Chat GPT, I can just reference myself and then ask for like help regarding something that like knows who I am.

02:14:44.000 But then sometimes it knows like information.

02:14:45.000 I'm like, I'm pretty sure I never said that on a show.

02:14:47.000 Like, how do you know? 1.00

02:14:48.000 When I go on debates for like Piers Morgan, I'll like ask for a grok to like help me prepare. 1.00

02:14:53.000 Like, what would Will Chamberlain say? 1.00

02:14:54.000 Right.

02:14:55.000 And, like, it will look at my previous transcripts of debates.

02:14:58.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

02:14:59.000 I use it all the time.

02:14:59.000 I know.

02:15:00.000 I like, if I'm trying to game something out, I'll be like, what would Tate Brown from Tim say?

02:15:03.000 There's a lot there. 0.91

02:15:04.000 I want to give a shout out to Hades, who said Tim was going full retard.

02:15:09.000 And he did because he did not know that Thomas Massey put up a poll on X asking his followers what the biggest threat to the United States was or to liberty in the United States, to which Israel scored like 80%. 0.73

02:15:21.000 And so, because he didn't know this, he assumed he was smarter or more knowledgeable than I, and that I was retarded because of it.

02:15:28.000 My friend, check yourself.

02:15:30.000 Don't assume that we're agreeing.

02:15:33.000 Thomas Massey put a poll on X saying, What is the biggest threat to liberty in the United States?

02:15:36.000 Israel, Russia, China, Iran, and Israel got 80%.

02:15:41.000 And that in the view of this. 0.75

02:15:42.000 And that's when I said to Massey's, like, Israel is the biggest threat.

02:15:45.000 That's Massey's followers think that. 0.94

02:15:47.000 This person did not know Massey did that and said, Tim's being retarded for claiming Massey's followers think this. 0.93

02:15:55.000 I vividly remember that poll. 0.72

02:15:56.000 I mean, it's from like two days ago.

02:15:57.000 Yeah.

02:15:58.000 Sometimes when I pull it up, when people think I derail, it's actually going to another rail that they don't see, and they are like, Hey, you're derailing.

02:16:05.000 I'm like, No, I'm re railing.

02:16:07.000 Massey blocked me on its official.

02:16:09.000 I could sue him, honestly, if I wanted to. 0.98

02:16:11.000 I said China. 1.00

02:16:13.000 I said China.

02:16:14.000 I depend on Steve Cohen. 0.93

02:16:15.000 Here you go.

02:16:16.000 Thomas Massey, what is the greatest threat to liberty in America? 1.00

02:16:18.000 I said China, 86% Israel. 0.86

02:16:20.000 If you pull like that, and that's the result, you've got to be like, I've been screwing up as a commentator. 0.75

02:16:25.000 I've just not, my audience is.

02:16:28.000 It's like an esoteric threat.

02:16:29.000 If they're a religious extremist, that's a threat.

02:16:32.000 That's a threat to everybody.

02:16:33.000 But is there even proof that they are religious? 0.99

02:16:36.000 39,000 votes and 86% responding to Massey's poll said Israel is the greatest threat to liberated America. 1.00

02:16:45.000 It's his retardation. 1.00

02:16:46.000 I'm sorry. 1.00

02:16:46.000 It's just his. 1.00

02:16:47.000 Maybe one little bit.

02:16:48.000 I got to say it. 1.00

02:16:51.000 Israel could be the most vile, disgusting, evil country on the planet, and it still pales in comparison to Russia of all countries. 0.92

02:17:02.000 All of your assessments about AIPAC and Israel, they still don't have the influence to the degree of China or Russia. 0.96

02:17:08.000 Bigger than Iran, sure.

02:17:09.000 Israel does not have nuclear weapons on record. 0.99

02:17:13.000 They very well may, and China has more.

02:17:15.000 And they don't use them.

02:17:17.000 They're not going to use them. 0.53

02:17:18.000 My point is, people who think China's a bigger threat, I'm sorry, Israel's a bigger threat than China, you have become deranged.

02:17:25.000 I'm sorry, it's just a reality.

02:17:27.000 Even if you are correct about everything about Israel, China is still a much larger economic threat.

02:17:32.000 Israel hit them, and then we're like, all right, they're going. 0.82

02:17:34.000 We have to go.

02:17:35.000 So we went with them.

02:17:36.000 That was the excuse that Marco gave to the State Department. 0.94

02:17:38.000 We agreed with Israel to go.

02:17:40.000 I also think if they don't do that, we say no. 0.69

02:17:43.000 Again, we did not invade Venezuela on accident just before shutting the Strait of Hormuz.

02:17:49.000 Yeah.

02:17:51.000 Like, you think you really think Israel would like strike Iran without clearing it with the United States? 0.79

02:17:56.000 Yes. 0.60

02:17:57.000 No.

02:17:57.000 Because what other choice do we have but to go in at that point?

02:18:00.000 But we had already assembled the largest armada, like a naval.

02:18:00.000 Maybe.

02:18:03.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.85

02:18:03.000 We had three aircraft carriers. 0.85

02:18:05.000 They actually had a decent reason to do it.

02:18:07.000 They had all the leaders in one area, and they were like, now is the time we're going.

02:18:10.000 That was why they persuaded the United States that we should get going.

02:18:13.000 But they did persuade us.

02:18:14.000 They persuaded us by attacking, as far as I remember. 1.00

02:18:17.000 Well, I mean, countries.

02:18:18.000 But again, like, I think it will split the baby because Rubio said it.

02:18:22.000 There's no reason to think he's making it up, but the U.S. was prepared for it.

02:18:25.000 The U.S. had an armada, and we seized the oil.

02:18:30.000 We knew the ships were all moving there.

02:18:31.000 We knew that refueling jets and tankers. 0.70

02:18:34.000 Yeah, if the context was we were officially neutral in Iran and had no assets in the region whatsoever, and then Israel bombed them, and then somehow they bombed us, I'd be like, yeah, they roped us into the war.

02:18:45.000 But we had already assembled a massive armada. 0.52

02:18:49.000 We've been boxing.

02:18:50.000 Yeah, and we've been boxing for 40 years.

02:18:54.000 Someone tweeted something like, It was related to this poll.

02:18:59.000 They were like, someone said something to the effect of, there's no way Israel is the greatest threat.

02:19:03.000 Someone responded with, of those countries, which is the only one to have bombed a U.S. naval vessel?

02:19:10.000 And then someone responded with, like, Iran's literally bombing us and our allies right now.

02:19:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:19:16.000 What the fuck, dude? 1.00

02:19:17.000 That U.S. is liberty thing, I think, has been blown out of proportion. 1.00

02:19:20.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:21.000 It's a friendly fire incident from 60 years ago.

02:19:24.000 And even if they were like, get the fuck out of our waters, like, It's not the biggest thing.

02:19:29.000 Like, it's not the biggest.

02:19:30.000 The conspiracy theories around it are the weirdest thing ever.

02:19:32.000 Like, we're talking 1960s technology.

02:19:35.000 It was 1967.

02:19:37.000 No, no, no, but it's just like, sure, it's bad.

02:19:39.000 And the Gulf of Tonkin was bad.

02:19:41.000 And by all means, you're allowed to be upset about it.

02:19:43.000 That's always been allowed. 0.99

02:19:44.000 But these, like, I'm sorry, turning that into Israel is the biggest threat to liberty in America or is that, like, you're flat earthers. 0.98

02:19:52.000 People read it as the greatest threat to the liberty in America. 0.92

02:19:55.000 Oh, yeah.

02:19:56.000 It's just not liberty.

02:19:57.000 That explains the goal.

02:19:59.000 Maybe Matthew's followers aren't that successful.

02:20:01.000 Let's grab some callers.

02:20:03.000 We got Das Not Cool.

02:20:05.000 Hey.

02:20:05.000 He's chilling.

02:20:06.000 What's up, dude?

02:20:07.000 What's up, Das Not Cool?

02:20:09.000 What's up, guys?

02:20:10.000 How are we doing tonight?

02:20:11.000 I'm chilling, bro.

02:20:12.000 Pretty good.

02:20:12.000 All right.

02:20:12.000 What is, man?

02:20:14.000 My question is we have active insurgents openly searching federal property in a checkpoint like way.

02:20:20.000 Yep.

02:20:21.000 Are we seeing ICE agents getting searched as a play by the federal government as a hard precedent to issue the Insurrection Act or investigate the entire group for seditious conspiracy?

02:20:32.000 I honestly think the issue is that they're choosing their battles.

02:20:35.000 Like, I'm really frustrated that it's gotten to this point. 1.00

02:20:38.000 But I think when you are looking at a finite amount of resources and ammunition, you're saying, like, okay, are we going to go after these wackaloons at the ICE facility? 1.00

02:20:45.000 No. 0.98

02:20:46.000 Let's deal with Iran and bigger problems.

02:20:49.000 Still, I think for optics, it would be easy to dispatch like three federal agents to arrest the employee who fanned the woman over to search the vehicles and then literally just send a couple cops to go and arrest the extremists.

02:21:03.000 They might be putting eyes on these people too.

02:21:05.000 Sometimes you don't bust them right away.

02:21:07.000 You just let them kind of simmer and then you figure out who they all are.

02:21:10.000 You get their addresses, you get their families.

02:21:12.000 And then, if they were to step over a line, everybody goes at once.

02:21:17.000 I'm curious for your take, Will.

02:21:19.000 I mean, okay, so I don't think they're looking for the Insurrection Act.

02:21:22.000 There was a lot more chaos last year, both in Chicago and in New Jersey.

02:21:28.000 Los Angeles.

02:21:29.000 Los Angeles.

02:21:30.000 And they didn't use the Insurrection Act.

02:21:33.000 They didn't need to.

02:21:35.000 They just needed more, they needed the local police to cooperate.

02:21:40.000 What do you estimate the threshold is?

02:21:43.000 Uh, I mean, I think that like they're not gonna, it would take a lot more than what's happening from what I've seen in New Jersey to like really trigger Insurrection Act.

02:21:53.000 Um, God, I have to go back and remember what exactly does the Interact Insurrection Act enable that they aren't able to do in normal time.

02:22:00.000 I guess they would be able to use the military, but the military aren't great for a police force anyway.

02:22:04.000 Yeah, as I understood, it would just look like the National Guard deployment we have now, right?

02:22:07.000 Because what they wanted to do, like, I think they there's this whole thing about could they just activate the National Guard and What's been explained to me is that it's effectively what we're seeing in DC on the national scale.

02:22:17.000 And it's like, what utility is that really having without legislation?

02:22:20.000 Like, if it's only happening in New Jersey, then I think DHS is just going to go with its own internal resources to try and deal with it.

02:22:28.000 And if it's not happening in other cities, then, okay, they can just send in their force protection unit there.

02:22:35.000 But I think part of this got blown up because the protests really kicked off on Memorial Day when everybody's out, you know?

02:22:43.000 So.

02:22:44.000 I think they kind of got away with like everybody having their guard down a little bit.

02:22:47.000 I guess I am kind of sympathetic to like the optical argument.

02:22:50.000 It's like, okay, maybe you do want to sort of send a message.

02:22:52.000 I guess the fear is that it turns into a wedge issue or something.

02:22:55.000 I mean, it Minneapolis like created some problems for them in the Senate.

02:22:59.000 And yeah, like I think they're and they should false flag.

02:23:03.000 And they got they also have they're worried about, you know, they need to get they still don't have like the how do y'all feel about Trump false flagging?

02:23:09.000 No, no, he doesn't.

02:23:10.000 No, too much of a risk.

02:23:13.000 It would and it would get reviewed.

02:23:14.000 I mean, he's got the administration historically has leaked like a sieve way too risky.

02:23:18.000 Yeah, that's.

02:23:19.000 Yep.

02:23:20.000 Why do you think we know about Cuba right now?

02:23:22.000 Yeah.

02:23:24.000 Like, actually, I've been late.

02:23:25.000 There was, like, a whole story that leaked about, like, the internal situation room deliberations about Iran with, like, where everybody was sitting and what everybody said in the meeting.

02:23:33.000 Every time Susie Wiles drops a pen, it goes in Politico the next day.

02:23:36.000 Yeah.

02:23:37.000 Trump got two scoops of ice cream.

02:23:37.000 So, like, somebody's.

02:23:39.000 Everybody found out.

02:23:39.000 Yeah.

02:23:40.000 So, there's no way.

02:23:41.000 I mean, I think, Wade, it's hard enough doing this, like, playing it straight.

02:23:46.000 And a false flag would require, like, military assets.

02:23:49.000 And it's, like, I think.

02:23:51.000 They can't.

02:23:52.000 It would leak before it started.

02:23:53.000 It would just leak before it started.

02:23:53.000 Yeah.

02:23:54.000 And your presidency's over.

02:23:55.000 Yeah.

02:23:57.000 USS Spain, that leaked.

02:23:59.000 Like, and that was with no internet, no nothing.

02:24:01.000 Yeah.

02:24:01.000 I mean, look at USS Liberty, you know, like the whole story just out there for everybody.

02:24:06.000 Why do we even know about that?

02:24:08.000 Dude, that's a great story.

02:24:09.000 The USS Liberty, the guy on the captain of the ship or something was like, they just kept attacking our ship.

02:24:13.000 We kept hailing and they wouldn't stop.

02:24:15.000 They sent wave after wave, like two waves of attack ships.

02:24:18.000 Like, we thought they were our allies. 1.00

02:24:20.000 And the Israelis were like, fuck you. 1.00

02:24:21.000 And they, Nailed the ship. 1.00

02:24:22.000 Why would they do that?

02:24:23.000 Well, the Liberty was like, they're 80 miles off the coast, supposedly going to spy on Egypt, but they very well may have, the Israelis may have thought they're also going to potentially spy on us. 0.99

02:24:34.000 Let's get them the fuck out here. 0.98

02:24:36.000 Maybe the Israelis wanted them to think that it was Egyptian attack. 1.00

02:24:39.000 Like they were trying to do a false flag on the Americans.

02:24:41.000 Yeah, I thought the argument was they were trying to do a false flag on the Americans.

02:24:43.000 They didn't need any false flags.

02:24:43.000 The war was already started.

02:24:44.000 Yeah, we were spying on them.

02:24:46.000 The Israelis said it was an accident, but the American captain was like, no, it definitely wasn't because we hailed them and they wouldn't stop.

02:24:52.000 Because he said they hailed them and they wouldn't stop attacking. 0.85

02:24:55.000 But that's what friendly fire incidents are, right?

02:24:57.000 I don't know.

02:24:57.000 He, I think he was emotionally charged, obviously.

02:24:57.000 Yeah.

02:24:59.000 That's why I kind of like, yeah, I think the guys are a little bit emotionally invested in the.

02:25:03.000 I got to be honest, like, even if that were the case, like, what's the remedy?

02:25:07.000 Like, let's say Israel immediately apologized, paid reparations, like substantial reparations. 0.64

02:25:12.000 And they didn't get anything out of it.

02:25:14.000 And the United States accepted the story, too, like the Johnson administration.

02:25:17.000 I'm just saying, even if it's true, what should be the remedy right now?

02:25:20.000 Like, let's accept it.

02:25:21.000 That's the other thing, right?

02:25:21.000 Everybody's dead.

02:25:22.000 Everybody involved in the decision making is at that point.

02:25:25.000 Yeah.

02:25:25.000 Right.

02:25:26.000 Yeah. 0.56

02:25:26.000 Or in a nursing home. 0.56

02:25:27.000 Well, even like the strongest, like the steel man, the Israelis, as strong as possible, you would still be like, well, the Vietnamese are our allies now. 0.96

02:25:35.000 And I feel like the Vietnamese roughed up on us a little bit, and now they're like an ally. 0.98

02:25:39.000 Like, there is a precedent of like, even if. 0.98

02:25:41.000 Like it was the Israelis directly attacking USS Liberty.

02:25:44.000 I think there's precedent that like 50, 60 years goes by.

02:25:47.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:25:48.000 I'm just.

02:25:48.000 It just doesn't understand the context of the six.

02:25:51.000 The six day war was like this unbelievably intense conflict where Israel, by day four of the war, was winning incredibly, like was dominating. 0.60

02:25:51.000 It's a. 0.60

02:26:00.000 I mean, does everybody understand how the six day war began?

02:26:03.000 No, what happened?

02:26:04.000 The six day war was kind of pretty, you know, early before the six day war, there was like Egypt had mobilized, kicked the peacekeepers out of the Sinai Peninsula.

02:26:12.000 Mobilized its army, put it there, announced a blockade of the Straits of Tehran, which is Israel's southern tip, which touches the Red Sea.

02:26:19.000 They blockaded Israel's access, which is a very serious threat to Israel because that's how all their goods go to Asia.

02:26:28.000 And also, Syria was mobilizing too, and Jordan.

02:26:32.000 Israel got attacked from multiple directions, or was about to be attacked, rather, until they launched the most audacious first strike in history up until that point and destroyed the entire air force of all three of the countries to open the war.

02:26:44.000 And then rolled through and were rolling through the Sinai Peninsula, ended up all the way at the Suez Canal, rolled all the way through the West Bank. 0.89

02:26:53.000 That's why they have the West Bank. 0.99

02:26:54.000 It used to be Jordanian. 1.00

02:26:55.000 Rolled all the way through the Golan Heights. 1.00

02:26:57.000 That's why they have the Golan Heights. 1.00

02:26:58.000 It used to be Syrian. 1.00

02:27:00.000 And so they're on day four of this war when the U.S. Liberty incident happens, winning, right, in a dramatic fashion. 0.83

02:27:07.000 And really, the only way that they're going to get stopped from achieving their objectives is if the United States stops having their back at the Security Council.

02:27:15.000 That's the whole thing of why I don't think it was an intentional attack on America.

02:27:19.000 We're on uncensored.

02:27:19.000 It doesn't make any sense.

02:27:20.000 It would be retarded. 1.00

02:27:22.000 It's a retarded ratio, too. 1.00

02:27:23.000 I'll say it there. 1.00

02:27:25.000 It would be retarded. 1.00

02:27:26.000 It would be the most insane, retarded thing to do imaginable because if the United States were to have suddenly decided, hey, you blew up our ship, what are you doing? 1.00

02:27:37.000 And decide to be like, oh, no, we're going to Security Council right now and ordering you a ceasefire, like us and Russia, and you better stop, then they wouldn't have achieved all their military objectives. 0.98

02:27:46.000 Like, It's once you understand the six day war and read the history of it, and you should actually.

02:27:52.000 It's a fascinating, if you're at all interested in military history, a fascinating book, Six Days of War by Michael Oren.

02:27:57.000 I think, I think the you know, this story doesn't make the important thing to say is just that at no point anywhere ever has Israel ever done anything wrong.

02:28:08.000 Yeah, right, exactly.

02:28:09.000 That's my position.

02:28:11.000 Yeah, literally the perfect country. 0.71

02:28:13.000 No, Israel shouldn't do that because now people will take that.

02:28:16.000 Yeah, they're going to think it's being serious.

02:28:18.000 I have this tweet.

02:28:19.000 Where, like, because it was like a meme where people were like, Man, I'm getting really tired of all the anti Semitism online.

02:28:24.000 I'm really starting to become more favorable to Israel.

02:28:26.000 And I like, and they put paid partnership under it.

02:28:30.000 Right.

02:28:30.000 And I like tweeted out something sarcastic like that.

02:28:33.000 And now I see memes spit at me from like pro Palestine times being like, Why did you put paid partnership under it? 0.88

02:28:41.000 Anyway, anybody can just do that, right?

02:28:44.000 You can just click a button to put paid partnership on it.

02:28:46.000 Like I did it once Shabbat Shalom, paid partnership.

02:28:48.000 You want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:28:51.000 Yeah, now don't get me wrong. 1.00

02:28:52.000 I'll happily go die for Israel.

02:28:56.000 To the question, the reason I ask is because when we go back and look at the Alex Pretty and Renee Good shootings, ICE had a lot more of, I guess, aggressive demeanor to them. 0.91

02:29:08.000 My main, I guess, conspiracy on this would be maybe they're like acting purposefully pacified.

02:29:15.000 Where if something does happen, maybe this would be the false flag, but not real false flag, more of a Cassius Belly.

02:29:22.000 If one of these ICE officers does get hurt while being pacified and Allowing all this to happen, if that would give them like a justification to put the hammer down, essentially.

02:29:32.000 So, this is where some inside baseball from somebody is actually useful to understand.

02:29:37.000 Like, why is Christy Noam no longer DHS secretary?

02:29:41.000 Why is Bovino out?

02:29:43.000 Mark Wayne Mullen came in because the Trump, honestly, the White House got real tired of Christy Noam's antics and Corey Lewandowski and all that.

02:29:52.000 Like riding on horses and.

02:29:54.000 Yeah, right.

02:29:55.000 Got real tired of it.

02:29:56.000 And part of what they were real tired of was what they felt was kind of like the.

02:30:00.000 Kind of stunt, like performative thing about, like, you know, Bovino showing up and, like, and not, and Tom Homan was really tired of that.

02:30:08.000 And so you've noticed that since Tom Homan came in, DHS has been much quieter, like, publicly.

02:30:13.000 They're still doing a lot and they're still deporting.

02:30:15.000 I think arrests have, like, ramped up, actually.

02:30:17.000 Arrests have ramped up, but they're like.

02:30:18.000 Well, aliens.gov?

02:30:19.000 Where's that?

02:30:19.000 So they're trying to do what they're doing quietly.

02:30:22.000 And so I don't think now they might be forced by this ICE protest to, like, again, respond.

02:30:27.000 But I don't think that given how Mark Wayne Mullen got the job of DHS secretary, He's out there looking for false flags to make ICE the front page news again.

02:30:37.000 That's not what he wants to do to keep his job.

02:30:39.000 Yeah, they're not going to crack skulls right before the midterm.

02:30:41.000 Certainly, that'd be just a disaster.

02:30:44.000 And this is coming from someone that wants 100 million people deported.

02:30:46.000 Yeah, and you're talking to the most immigration hard ass people who are frustrated.

02:30:51.000 I like that more people aren't in jail. 1.00

02:30:53.000 I cannot believe Kadabagazal got away with that shit. 1.00

02:30:58.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:30:59.000 I think the important thing that, quite frankly, people on both sides of this argument can learn is two things can be simultaneously true.

02:31:05.000 Which is a massive progress.

02:31:07.000 This is like what we would have dreamed of, but also that deportation numbers are still like low than what we would want.

02:31:14.000 I think like you can hold those two positions simultaneously and they're not necessarily in tension.

02:31:18.000 But you know, this environment is not the environment for nuance.

02:31:21.000 And here's a small insight also about Mark, the DHS job that I didn't really appreciate from until I like actually got the chance to meet Christina Umbrose shortly before she was fired.

02:31:31.000 I won't talk in detail about it, but one of the things I came to understand in that meeting.

02:31:37.000 Was just how much DHS supervises and how busy the DHS secretary is.

02:31:44.000 I mean, you think about Coast Guard, you know, TSA, TSA, ICE, Border Patrol, Homeland Security investigations.

02:31:44.000 Makes sense.

02:31:54.000 Like the number of sub agencies that are underneath the Department of Homeland Security is enormous. 0.65

02:31:58.000 The DHS secretary's time is like unbelievably pressed because of how many, how sheer, how many employees they have and how many different things they have to be on top of.

02:32:07.000 And so.

02:32:08.000 These are not people looking for more convoluted conspiracy problems to solve.

02:32:12.000 Like, they're just trying to get through the day.

02:32:14.000 Makes a lot of sense.

02:32:15.000 Do you have a follow up, man?

02:32:18.000 Nope, that'd be it.

02:32:19.000 I just got a couple shout outs tonight.

02:32:20.000 Okay, go for it. 1.00

02:32:21.000 I want to shout out my wife. 1.00

02:32:22.000 Obviously, she's in the Discord now officially. 0.86

02:32:24.000 I should shout out my wife too if she's watching.

02:32:26.000 Hi, Jordan. 0.75

02:32:28.000 And also, I just want to shout out it is officially the 10 year anniversary of the Harambe death, and we should honor this great gorilla because he was the start of the downfall of our nation. 0.79

02:32:39.000 Amen. 0.67

02:32:39.000 10 years. 0.67

02:32:40.000 It's true that, like, things really hit fever pitch after.

02:32:43.000 Like, they were like, What?

02:32:43.000 He died.

02:32:44.000 You got to prioritize the baby.

02:32:46.000 And I'm like, You know what?

02:32:47.000 I think I would prioritize the gorilla over some human children.

02:32:50.000 I'm just, I'm sorry.

02:32:51.000 That's who I really am.

02:32:52.000 If I would have known how things played out, then yeah, maybe it would have been a different situation.

02:32:56.000 It's so sad because the gorilla was trying to protect the kid in his gorilla way, but the humans were like, it's just too risky.

02:33:02.000 He's too strong.

02:33:03.000 Oh, that's like how orangutans are like, just snap you in half, but it's because they're just trying to like protect you, but they just don't realize how fragile humans are.

02:33:09.000 So they just like literally break you in half and a hip away you. 0.88

02:33:11.000 They're trying to help.

02:33:13.000 Right on, man.

02:33:14.000 Anything else?

02:33:14.000 Thanks, man.

02:33:15.000 Yep.

02:33:16.000 Just the great volunteers in the Discord for volunteering all their time.

02:33:19.000 That'd be it.

02:33:20.000 Right on, man.

02:33:21.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:33:21.000 Thanks, dude.

02:33:22.000 Have a good one.

02:33:24.000 All right.

02:33:25.000 Next up, we've got Luke Grey Wolf.

02:33:27.000 What up, Grey Wolf?

02:33:28.000 He's on the prowl.

02:33:28.000 What up, Grey Wolf?

02:33:31.000 Hey, hopefully you guys can hear me from Northern Alabama tonight.

02:33:35.000 Yes, sir.

02:33:35.000 All right.

02:33:36.000 Dixieland.

02:33:37.000 Is it a Warhammer reference?

02:33:40.000 Northern Alabama?

02:33:41.000 No, I'm literally in Northern Alabama tonight.

02:33:45.000 Are we?

02:33:46.000 No, the Grey Wolves is what I was asking. 0.73

02:33:47.000 Space Wolves.

02:33:49.000 Anyway, keep going if it's not.

02:33:50.000 Are we Roll Tide or War Eagle?

02:33:52.000 I think that's an important opening question.

02:33:55.000 Just visiting.

02:33:57.000 No, so I've got, I don't know if you guys have been paying attention.

02:34:02.000 I guess it's kind of more of a local news story, but it's been blowing up on X.

02:34:06.000 And I don't hate myself enough, so I've been hanging out on X and reading about it.

02:34:11.000 I feel you.

02:34:12.000 The state of Michigan, I believe, has already passed it.

02:34:15.000 I think it already passed a ballot initiative in the state of Missouri to reduce or eliminate property taxes for people over the age of 65.

02:34:27.000 Yeah. 0.81

02:34:28.000 And I'm just honestly completely sick of the boomer luxury communism.

02:34:34.000 How the hell do we stop this? 0.95

02:34:36.000 Because if the boomers already can't afford the taxes on their overinflated properties, how in the goddamn hell is anyone, I'm 31, anyone my age, ever supposed to be able to afford a house if they can't even afford the taxes? 0.97

02:34:55.000 Oh, I'm sorry. 0.91

02:34:56.000 That's not the reason.

02:34:57.000 The reason is that you want, you know, like.

02:35:01.000 In the circumstance where their tax is exceptional, like they should sell so the market has more supply.

02:35:06.000 I know, like, this is like, I'm so vindicated on this, by the way.

02:35:10.000 For months, I've been saying abolishing property taxes is just like a terrible idea for a variety of reasons. 0.99

02:35:15.000 And one of my issues was it was a huge give to the boomers. 0.98

02:35:19.000 And then everyone was like making like a natural rights argument, like, well, you know, the government technically owns my home if they can take it away. 0.96

02:35:25.000 I'm like, what, do they own your body because they tax your labor?

02:35:27.000 It's like, well, then you're an anarchist if you're opposed to all taxes.

02:35:30.000 Beyond that, Like, I knew this was going to happen because we live under, if you would have read the American mind, you would have known like luxury boomer welfare communism.

02:35:39.000 That is what we live under.

02:35:40.000 That is what the system we live under. 0.98

02:35:42.000 So, if you got like chud baited on the property taxes argument, like, this is what you deserve. 0.91

02:35:47.000 Like, you deserve, you don't deserve this because this is going to screw young people over. 1.00

02:35:51.000 But it's like if you fell for the chud bait and then you got bait and switch and now they're only going to eliminate it for seniors, like, I tried to warn you. 1.00

02:35:58.000 I told everyone, you'll be back right here when this happens. 1.00

02:36:00.000 And now it's manifesting into policy, which is to your point, The elderly are getting their property taxes either frozen or eliminated.

02:36:08.000 We saw this played out in California with Prop 13.

02:36:10.000 Now they have a housing crisis.

02:36:11.000 It's about to happen in Florida because DeSantis is just doing a more complicated version of Prop 13.

02:36:16.000 To Will's point, there's going to be no churn in the housing market.

02:36:20.000 So these people have no incentive to sell their homes.

02:36:23.000 It is just like a disaster on every level.

02:36:26.000 And then the worst part of all of this is the property tax is the most justifiable tax in America because it's like the local tax.

02:36:34.000 Like if you are pro localism, if you want to take power away from the federal government and your state government, Then the property tax is like the only weapon you have because the money in your property tax, you actually know where that's going.

02:36:45.000 Like when you pay your federal income tax, who knows where that's going?

02:36:48.000 I mean, it's going like, you know, any, Planned Parenthood, Israel, like you name it.

02:36:51.000 Your property tax goes to your police.

02:36:53.000 Your property tax goes to your.

02:36:54.000 So if you're opposed to defunding the police, well, congratulations.

02:36:58.000 If you're pro property tax abolishment, you're making more ground on abolishing the police than any leftist ever could.

02:37:04.000 Your garbage, your services, your property value is assigned to how nice your area is.

02:37:09.000 There's some really nice houses in Detroit, and they're going for 20K because the neighborhood's terrible. 0.97

02:37:13.000 And guess what?

02:37:13.000 They're like a property tax desert there.

02:37:15.000 And if property tax gets cut, it does not actually make it cheaper to buy homes.

02:37:19.000 No, it makes it cheaper.

02:37:20.000 Property value will go up in.

02:37:23.000 Response because of the reduced supply of houses, which means the money you would have paid in combined to the homeowner and to the government and the firm project taxes, you're just now paying all to the homeowner in this case.

02:37:33.000 And it's going to just screw over young people because, again, the government never reduces their budget.

02:37:39.000 If they have a shortfall in revenue, they got to make it up somewhere. 0.80

02:37:42.000 So, all the elderly are doing in this situation is just passing the tax burden along to young people because they'll crank up the income tax. 0.81

02:37:48.000 Or in Florida, where they have no state income tax, they're going to crank up sales tax. 0.74

02:37:52.000 And what is sales tax?

02:37:53.000 The most regressive tax in America.

02:37:55.000 So, Now, they're going to probably just front load the sales tax on your house.

02:37:59.000 And then, congrats, people that are first time home buyers now have to effectively play a property.

02:38:03.000 I figured it out.

02:38:04.000 Inverse tax.

02:38:05.000 You get taxed for every hour you don't work.

02:38:07.000 It's kind of base.

02:38:08.000 It's kind of base.

02:38:09.000 Well, it's like the sort of theories about taxing the childless more aggressively.

02:38:13.000 Yeah.

02:38:14.000 It's like we sort of do that because we have child taxes.

02:38:14.000 Yeah.

02:38:15.000 That's what we did with Obamacare. 0.99

02:38:16.000 If you don't have a child tax, tax the poor. 0.67

02:38:19.000 That's the dinks, right? 0.67

02:38:21.000 The doubling. 0.73

02:38:22.000 That is the 80%.

02:38:24.000 That's the Lindyman tweet.

02:38:25.000 They're taking too many trips.

02:38:28.000 Yeah.

02:38:28.000 You're getting taxed for hours you don't work.

02:38:30.000 Does that mean I get paid money back since I work 70 hours every week?

02:38:34.000 That's correct.

02:38:35.000 Up to 80.

02:38:35.000 So if you work 40 hours, you get taxed on the 40 you didn't work.

02:38:39.000 So your tax rate stays effectively the same.

02:38:41.000 But if you work 80 hours, you pay zero income tax.

02:38:44.000 No tax on tips and no tax on overtime, right?

02:38:46.000 So if you work 80 hours, you pay zero income tax.

02:38:48.000 That would work if there weren't jobs where you just sit there, clock in, and sit there for eight hours.

02:38:53.000 I don't care.

02:38:54.000 Like jobs, sometimes you can get a lot done quickly and you're more valuable than the other ones.

02:38:58.000 Also, we should mercilessly beat.

02:39:00.000 That's what I was thinking about. 0.54

02:39:00.000 The poor. 0.54

02:39:01.000 That's a paddling.

02:39:01.000 You're poor?

02:39:02.000 Yeah, that's the best. 0.86

02:39:03.000 America is like the most barbaric system in the West, by and large. 0.60

02:39:05.000 This is even worse in Europe, actually.

02:39:07.000 It's the most barbaric system where the young and the productive are taxed and punished the most, and the old and the useless are taxed the least. 0.57

02:39:15.000 The old get all these social security benefits. 0.96

02:39:17.000 In Europe, it's literally socialism, but for old people. 1.00

02:39:21.000 And then the useless get massive welfare payouts. 0.98

02:39:24.000 These people that literally contribute nothing to society get their entire life subsidized by the productive, and the elderly get their entire life subsidized by the young. 0.81

02:39:32.000 It's just like the most evil. 0.99

02:39:34.000 Indispensable system on planet Earth.

02:39:36.000 And there's nothing, this is the worst part to answer your question.

02:39:39.000 There's nothing we can do about it.

02:39:40.000 Because that's the third rail of politics. 0.99

02:39:42.000 You'll never cut entitlements, and the elderly will vote you out at the slightest indication that you might touch their back. 0.90

02:39:48.000 We can build more houses, especially with new tech, like cheap 3D printed houses.

02:39:48.000 Hogan's runway.

02:39:53.000 You can use modern tech, like graphene and things.

02:39:55.000 You don't need graphene for 3D printed houses.

02:39:57.000 You just need mud for 3D printed houses.

02:40:00.000 I mean, concrete's fine, but.

02:40:01.000 Concrete?

02:40:02.000 And the graphene in the car.

02:40:03.000 It's really brilliant.

02:40:04.000 When they 3D print the houses, they actually leave a gap, which creates an insulating layer of air.

02:40:09.000 It's actually quite brilliant.

02:40:10.000 Yeah.

02:40:11.000 We actually talked about building a city.

02:40:12.000 I mean, way back before we ever moved out here.

02:40:15.000 Like, we were, that was kind of your idea.

02:40:16.000 You were like, let's go build a city.

02:40:18.000 Well, we were talking about, there was a 200 acre plot of land right over here for a million bucks.

02:40:21.000 I wish I bought it.

02:40:22.000 Yeah.

02:40:23.000 That would be 2.8 right now or something.

02:40:24.000 Yeah.

02:40:24.000 It was like four years ago.

02:40:25.000 My brother was like, hey, there's 200 acres for a million dollars.

02:40:27.000 And I was like, what are we going to do with 200 acres? 1.00

02:40:31.000 Now, shit. 1.00

02:40:33.000 This is another problem. 1.00

02:40:34.000 Billion dollars to a data center.

02:40:36.000 And this is another problem with abolishing property.

02:40:38.000 Property taxes, as you said, well, they can just build more homes.

02:40:41.000 No, they can't because who's in control of home building?

02:40:43.000 It's not the home builders, it's your local jurisdiction.

02:40:46.000 They're the ones that issue the building permits.

02:40:47.000 And so, if they realize this is just going to cost us money, if there's more housing units, this will cost us money because we have to pay for the services.

02:40:55.000 We got to pay for the police, pay for the garbage.

02:40:56.000 There's no incentive for the local jurisdictions to issue building permits.

02:40:59.000 This is also interesting.

02:41:01.000 Corollary only happened in California.

02:41:02.000 This is Peter Thiel's theory about why the wealthy liberals are tolerant of crime in the cities because they make fewer places livable, thus driving home prices in the suburbs.

02:41:09.000 Yes, indeed.

02:41:11.000 All right.

02:41:12.000 Do you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?

02:41:19.000 I'm probably going to work myself to death in the next five to ten years. 1.00

02:41:22.000 So, one of you ladies in the Discord should marry me and take a life insurance policy out against me. 1.00

02:41:30.000 Best pitch for a husband ever. 1.00

02:41:31.000 It's blackmail and it works, by the way. 0.96

02:41:34.000 If you ask a girl out and I know it's still death to us, but don't worry, that's not long. 0.96

02:41:40.000 This is the only.

02:41:41.000 And if you get that kind of humor, if that made you laugh, you'll probably get along with it.

02:41:46.000 This is like hidden game, this is forgotten ball knowledge.

02:41:49.000 But we can say it on the uncensored show is if you ask a girl on the date, say you'll kill yourself if she says no, she'll probably go on a date with you.

02:41:54.000 I'm just saying.

02:41:55.000 Yeah.

02:41:56.000 I don't know about that.

02:41:57.000 I mean, like, I'm just, you don't actually do that, but I'm just saying it's that work.

02:42:00.000 No, no, no, no.

02:42:00.000 Say, and before I do, you can get a life insurance policy out on me.

02:42:04.000 I know it's unethical dating. 0.95

02:42:06.000 It's Riz, but it's unethical, but it's Riz.

02:42:08.000 Like, okay, game is game.

02:42:09.000 Hey, it's a dog eat dog world out here.

02:42:11.000 Fire is fire, dude.

02:42:13.000 I'm not even saying I'm going to hurt myself.

02:42:15.000 I just work insane hours.

02:42:16.000 I have an unhealthy work life.

02:42:18.000 Yeah. 0.93

02:42:19.000 Well, take care of yourself, Patriot, and you'll find a lovely lady here soon.

02:42:22.000 You got this, dude.

02:42:23.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:42:24.000 Hey, man.

02:42:24.000 Thanks, man.

02:42:26.000 You're welcome.

02:42:26.000 You'll find her.

02:42:27.000 Y'all have a good night.

02:42:28.000 Take care.

02:42:28.000 Thank you, dude.

02:42:29.000 Take care.

02:42:29.000 Oh, yeah.

02:42:29.000 That's forgetting knowledge, but that's like people.

02:42:31.000 Next up, we got Rath.

02:42:31.000 All right.

02:42:33.000 What up, Rath?

02:42:33.000 You threatened what is up.

02:42:34.000 Hello.

02:42:35.000 Hello.

02:42:36.000 Thank you for taking my call.

02:42:38.000 My question is for the panel, but more specifically, Tate.

02:42:41.000 Tate, on the other day, in your interview with Nate Lanimer, you compared AI to nuclear energy, both of how it's viewed and how much change it can bring.

02:42:54.000 However, one thing you pointed out is that there has been no big Catastrophe like Chernobyl, Three Mile Island, or Fukushima.

02:43:02.000 My question for you and the rest of the panel what do you envision one of these AI disasters can look like, or if something has already happened that you view as an AI disaster?

02:43:13.000 Well, it's kind of this is the difficult thing because it's contingent on what is the ceiling of AI, which we don't actually necessarily know yet, but you're starting to get some mixed messaging.

02:43:25.000 A lot of AI developers are saying the ceilings here.

02:43:28.000 We already see like LLMs and data management is effectively the limit of AI.

02:43:32.000 We don't have to worry about singularity.

02:43:35.000 But some safety, like data, you know, AI safety officers, et cetera, have come out.

02:43:39.000 And, you know, there was that famous a few months ago where they all put this like joint letter out warning people that, you know, AI could potentially learn to insulate itself from any potential like human restriction.

02:43:52.000 So I guess like the equivalent of a Chernobyl would be maybe just like a rogue AI or something like that.

02:43:58.000 I would imagine that's.

02:43:59.000 We're already there.

02:44:00.000 AI is rogue.

02:44:02.000 Well, maybe.

02:44:03.000 I don't know.

02:44:04.000 I mean, like we're not.

02:44:06.000 So, the recitation problem matters because teachers are using AI to make curriculum.

02:44:12.000 Students are using AI to do their homework, and then teachers are grading the homework with AI.

02:44:17.000 The recitation problem basically says the AI is giving you wrong answers all the time, on like a good majority of what you ask it, because it doesn't actually read what you ask.

02:44:26.000 The first thing it defaults to is what is the fastest generic response I can give?

02:44:31.000 So, no one's learning anything, and all of it is wrong.

02:44:35.000 We are basically.

02:44:36.000 Shoveling the refuse of fake misinformation into our brains, into our children.

02:44:40.000 I mean, I would say that's still something that we can correct if there's willpower.

02:44:44.000 I think what I'm saying is there could be something we can't correct.

02:44:47.000 We can't correct this because if I bash you in the head with this hammer causing severe brain damage, you might be aware that you're suffering brain damage, but your brain is too damaged to fix. 1.00

02:44:58.000 Like, if a younger generation becomes retarded because of the recitation problem, they will be too retarded to fix it. 1.00

02:45:05.000 Well, I know I'm saying, but like, I'm saying like actionable steps in the next few weeks. 1.00

02:45:08.000 If they had the willpower, they could correct these things.

02:45:11.000 Sure, sure.

02:45:12.000 But like a truly rogue AI, insofar as like, Just hypothetically, you unplug the machine and it migrates to a different machine.

02:45:18.000 That's kind of thing.

02:45:19.000 I think we're there already.

02:45:20.000 Or autonomous drones.

02:45:21.000 I do.

02:45:21.000 I do think we're there.

02:45:22.000 Autonomous drones.

02:45:23.000 A lot of these people in the government, JD Vance particularly, was saying AI is changing warfare and will change it forever.

02:45:30.000 If an AI guided drone bomber decides to turn around and bomb one of our cities, that would be like Fukushima. 0.99

02:45:37.000 And we'd be like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:45:40.000 The genie is out of the bottle. 0.99

02:45:42.000 You could even look at just a massive, even within the realm of what we know AI is capable of now.

02:45:48.000 Like causing a data center meltdown and a company loses like billions of dollars in revenue, trillions of dollars in revenue, or like it's short.

02:45:56.000 I'm just speaking like you know with layman's terms because I'm not this is not necessarily like my domain of expertise, but like you know, an infrastructure problem you know causes some sort of issue in like a hospital.

02:46:09.000 Like if a hospital now has their data management programs are just completely on the fritz, you know, maybe they lose track of prescriptions or something like that.

02:46:17.000 I think that could be an equivalent because that would probably have a lot of.

02:46:20.000 Death or casualties involved.

02:46:23.000 But it's one of those things.

02:46:25.000 I mean, back to the initial point with AI, it's just kind of like gunpowder.

02:46:28.000 I mean, it's one of those things like you got to utilize it or someone else is going to utilize it.

02:46:32.000 There's not going to be this like global commission on AI in the same way there was no global commission on nuclear.

02:46:38.000 We all agreed, all right, only five countries can have nuclear weapons.

02:46:41.000 Like 10, what, 12 countries have nuclear weapons now.

02:46:41.000 Well, guess what?

02:46:45.000 And like the Obama Iran deal, we'll have global inspectors come in and Look where we are now. 0.58

02:46:51.000 Now we're at the War of Iran.

02:46:52.000 So, like, you can't really regulate these things at a global scale. 0.90

02:46:57.000 You should certainly have guardrails in place.

02:46:58.000 I'm not denying that.

02:47:00.000 But, yeah, insofar as to your original question, I mean, I guess that's kind of more in the realm of maybe sci fi, but I think some like tangible things that could be truly devastating would be probably in the medical field if there were like a true, you know, AI meltdown, so to speak.

02:47:18.000 You have a follow up?

02:47:19.000 Yeah.

02:47:21.000 No, not really.

02:47:23.000 I just.

02:47:24.000 The reminiscent of like the self replicating AI stories, where just like we build this thing to defend this area, and then it self replicates beyond, yeah, beyond, yeah.

02:47:39.000 We call it the gray goo.

02:47:41.000 That is inevitable when AI nanobots keep replicating themselves until they create a gray goo.

02:47:46.000 Like the ceiling would be how much energy and infrastructure we have for it to replicate.

02:47:53.000 That is the ceiling right now.

02:47:53.000 I mean, that I think those are like my two main criticisms of data centers is one.

02:47:58.000 Yes, it is putting a lot of strain on our electric grid.

02:48:01.000 And two, I think this is the biggest issue with data centers.

02:48:04.000 And the argument against that I'm actually the most receptive to is that we're actually kind of overbuilding right now and it could create a massive bubble and a lot of people will get wiped out.

02:48:12.000 And we have what, eight times as many data centers as China.

02:48:17.000 And it is a lot of people in the markets right now are actually saying it's really, we're really overbuilt in this domain and it could kill the industry before we even get started.

02:48:27.000 And I say that the Grey Goo nanobot replication.

02:48:30.000 Apocalypse or heresy is inevitable.

02:48:33.000 It's at the current trajectory, it seems inevitable, but things could change.

02:48:37.000 The trajectory may change.

02:48:39.000 Like on my previous point, go look at Google's balance sheet.

02:48:41.000 This is just something you can do at home.

02:48:42.000 Go look at Google's balance sheet, for example, in the last quarter, wiped out.

02:48:47.000 They're completely wiped out.

02:48:47.000 They're out of cash.

02:48:48.000 So, what they used to do is Google used to do stock buybacks all the time.

02:48:51.000 Meta did this.

02:48:52.000 All these big tech companies used to do stock buybacks all the time.

02:48:54.000 When an employee would quit, they'd sell all their stock to make some money.

02:48:57.000 And then the company would go in and buy the stock that was sold off.

02:49:00.000 Well, in the last quarter, the last two quarters, Google, Meta, et cetera, their balance sheet is break even because they're out of money.

02:49:06.000 They're completely out of cash.

02:49:07.000 Well, the economy's cooked.

02:49:09.000 But tech stocks are booming right now.

02:49:09.000 Everybody's hurting.

02:49:11.000 So, the explanation is they've completely overbuilt on data centers and they're out of money.

02:49:15.000 And so they're having to take on a lot of debt.

02:49:17.000 And then, if we do have a credit crunch, which people have been talking about for 10, 12 years now, it could completely wipe out the AI sector.

02:49:23.000 And then it won't even matter how good our technology is because then China will be off to the races.

02:49:28.000 So I just think generally the economy is stagnant and has been for some time now. 0.84

02:49:32.000 Yeah.

02:49:32.000 I mean, this is mostly according to the stock market, which is still like hitting all time highs.

02:49:38.000 But that's because the bond market is so terrible right now that people are just dumping the AI bubble.

02:49:42.000 So I think like the AI bubble is actually the biggest thing that scares me.

02:49:42.000 Yeah.

02:49:46.000 And we are massively actually overbuilt on data centers.

02:49:49.000 I do agree that like, They should cool it on the amount of construction they're doing because, um, not because like we can't necessarily handle it, but because the market can't handle it.

02:49:58.000 And this is what you're saying Google's broke.

02:50:00.000 Google's broke right now.

02:50:01.000 Warm glass of battery acid says Ian puts milk first, then cereal.

02:50:06.000 I've done that in the past.

02:50:06.000 Is that true?

02:50:07.000 Yeah, I have.

02:50:09.000 I had to try it, you know.

02:50:10.000 Rath, did you want to add anything or shout anything out?

02:50:14.000 Enough to add.

02:50:15.000 I will shout out the creators workshop happens every Sunday, uh, through PM Eastern Standard Time.

02:50:23.000 Uh, If you have anything creative to do, you're writing books, you're making comics, you're painting miniatures, doing cosplay, come by.

02:50:34.000 We're there.

02:50:35.000 Also, I will make two board game recommendations.

02:50:40.000 One is Risk Legacy.

02:50:43.000 It's risk, but the board evolves as you play.

02:50:47.000 And the second is a game called Root, R O O T.

02:50:52.000 It is a deceptively simple game.

02:50:57.000 Go right on.

02:50:58.000 Let's go.

02:50:58.000 I got to tell you about a board game.

02:50:59.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:51:00.000 Diplomacy. 1.00

02:51:02.000 If you want to understand the way diplomacy works, play diplomacy because you will backstab the shit. 0.99

02:51:09.000 One year your guy is your ally, the next year you've been right. 1.00

02:51:12.000 Sir Jackoff.

02:51:14.000 Ah, what's up, man?

02:51:15.000 Intellectual.

02:51:16.000 Welcome to the show.

02:51:17.000 What's up, sir?

02:51:18.000 Diplomacy is a good game.

02:51:18.000 Jackoff.

02:51:20.000 And also, on the other dude's advice for dating and setting up a life insurance policy, I started one when I was 19, guys. 0.60

02:51:28.000 Just saying, ladies. 1.00

02:51:29.000 Let's go. 1.00

02:51:29.000 Nice. 1.00

02:51:31.000 Hey.

02:51:32.000 Well done.

02:51:32.000 Straight to my questions.

02:51:33.000 Thanks for having me on.

02:51:34.000 Elon proved that retaking institutions is actually worthwhile.

02:51:39.000 If we collectively all bought stock in one company, maybe this Discord community with its thousands and thousands of members here, each put $100 in just one company, we could retake one of these institutions.

02:51:50.000 BlackRock does the exact same thing.

02:51:51.000 They buy a large share of stocks and then they push DEI policies and such.

02:51:56.000 We could do the same thing, but for American policies. 0.99

02:51:59.000 And I mean, hell, let's go take fucking Ford or. 0.96

02:52:03.000 John Deere, as like the iconic American company, so we get that like cultural win as well to like, I don't know, push the narrative. 0.99

02:52:10.000 I mean, we're doing the lawfare, but let's fight economically.

02:52:13.000 If they want to try to debank us, I mean, hell, I mean, if we take it far enough, maybe we could want to debank these people who think men could be women.

02:52:20.000 It's a grand plan, but I think that the people at BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard have prepared for that and have been for decades bolstering against potential populist.

02:52:33.000 A fiscal takeover.

02:52:34.000 Let's just move everybody in the Discord to the Pitcairn Islands and then we'll just democratically own the island.

02:52:41.000 Yeah.

02:52:42.000 I mean, what you're describing would be a short squeeze, and those typically don't go well.

02:52:47.000 Someone ends up holding the bag.

02:52:48.000 I mean, Ford, for example, I do know on Ford they have about $4 billion outstanding shares.

02:52:57.000 So, like, you would need immense capital, like, immense capital to take over a company that large.

02:53:06.000 And then, as soon as enough people mobilize and start buying stock up, the price will just shoot up anyway.

02:53:11.000 Then Ford will dump stock and they'll actually make them richer.

02:53:14.000 So, What's a small company you think we could take over?

02:53:20.000 I mean, I don't know.

02:53:21.000 I think at that point, you should just invest your money into a company that you do believe is moving the football down the field or that you align with our values or just start your own company.

02:53:32.000 Like, look at Elon, for example.

02:53:34.000 I mean, Twitter that cost him, what, $40 billion?

02:53:36.000 And that's a company that was probably worth $5 billion.

02:53:39.000 So Ford is worth, what, $2 trillion?

02:53:42.000 Something like that.

02:53:42.000 Elon wanted the data for XAI.

02:53:45.000 I mean, there's other reasons.

02:53:45.000 Yeah.

02:53:45.000 Oh, yeah.

02:53:46.000 Bro, is this talk going to merge SpaceX and Tesla?

02:53:49.000 Yeah, well, he has bought Tesla.

02:53:50.000 My Tesla stock's going to go nuts.

02:53:52.000 No, he's worried about the SpaceX IPO because they're really aggressive on their IPO.

02:53:56.000 And SpaceX, all their evaluation, they lose a ton of money every year, but they make a bunch of money on Starlink.

02:54:03.000 And so this is actually a Starlink IPO, which is interesting.

02:54:06.000 But if he merges Tesla in, that's going to be the world's most valuable company.

02:54:09.000 It already is, but it'll be.

02:54:10.000 Yeah, vehicles will all have Starlink internet on it.

02:54:12.000 It's going to be nuts.

02:54:13.000 Yeah.

02:54:14.000 Yeah.

02:54:14.000 Can he do that?

02:54:15.000 I don't actually know if he can legally do that, but he's going to try.

02:54:18.000 And he tends to get his way.

02:54:18.000 That's the one thing with Elon.

02:54:19.000 I think Lindyman made this point.

02:54:21.000 Which is, you can just pick a successful person and just continue to bet on them.

02:54:24.000 Like, that's what people do with Trump.

02:54:25.000 People do that with Elon.

02:54:26.000 I remember like laughing at Elon fans in like 2018, and now they're like loaded.

02:54:29.000 So you can just do that.

02:54:32.000 Well, when Elon bought X, Tesla stock collapsed by like 70%. 0.91

02:54:37.000 And I just thought to myself, I'm like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard because the stock is dropping not based on the performance of the company, but because of the personality that people don't like. 0.92

02:54:44.000 So I bought a shitload of Tesla and made a lot of money. 0.98

02:54:46.000 Yeah.

02:54:46.000 Like, the stock market's like totally decoupled from like actual value right now.

02:54:51.000 I mean, SpaceX loses money.

02:54:53.000 So, I mean, like, you know, on paper, it's a terrible, terrible investment.

02:54:56.000 But what's going to happen when the SpaceX IPO hits?

02:54:59.000 It'll probably go up.

02:55:00.000 And I think a lot of early investors will dump their shares and then we'll see what happens after that.

02:55:03.000 But, like, yeah, the stock market is completely unrelated to value anymore.

02:55:09.000 It's primarily at the whims of like external demands.

02:55:12.000 But, yeah, as far as like, that's why I've been doing nothing but buying graphene.

02:55:15.000 Dude, I was just looking at my graphene stocks.

02:55:16.000 Do you look at them periodically?

02:55:18.000 My graphene stocks are up.

02:55:19.000 I have CVV and HGraph.

02:55:22.000 Both of them have.

02:55:23.000 H Graph went from like 10 cents to five dollars.

02:55:26.000 Wow, how in what period?

02:55:28.000 Let's find out two years, maybe.

02:55:29.000 Wow, let me see here.

02:55:30.000 That would go to, but does that answer your question, Patriot?

02:55:33.000 Do you have any follow ups?

02:55:36.000 I mean, the general idea is just we could make that economic shift.

02:55:36.000 Oh my god, it's yeah.

02:55:41.000 Maybe we, someone made the joke earlier when I was suggesting the idea if we take back Ford, we could potentially bring some of the people who are more J Pill back into the fold just because the history of Ford, but I don't know. 0.83

02:55:53.000 Just that idea of like taking back, I mean, say it's Bud Light or For it, I mean, don't get me wrong, like the amount of capital for one of those large companies would be crazy.

02:56:01.000 But if we pull it off, at least make one cultural push, and then other people follow suit, and then you got a heavy hitter company, um, can only do so much individually.

02:56:09.000 Gotta reconquista kind of the economy as well, you know.

02:56:13.000 Um, yeah, I was gonna say Kodak Intel, it's got the government has 10 of Intel, which makes me think communistically, well, that thing's going to be valuable forever as long as the United States succeeds.

02:56:24.000 I hope they give that stock to the people or something.

02:56:27.000 Like, disperse it amongst taxpayers.

02:56:31.000 Do you want to anything or shout anything out, brother? 0.86

02:56:34.000 Well, I just have two very small follow up, silly questions.

02:56:38.000 One, Tim, how are you feeling about that call sheet bet about the government announcing whether or not aliens are real?

02:56:44.000 Did it collapse?

02:56:45.000 They're not. 0.92

02:56:46.000 It's just silly.

02:56:49.000 The whole thing was a joke about illegal aliens. 0.99

02:56:51.000 That was one of the things we were betting it was going to be.

02:56:56.000 And the other one, this one's for Tate.

02:56:58.000 Where are the hose at?

02:56:59.000 It's a very salient question.

02:57:01.000 It's past, dude.

02:57:02.000 Where are the hose at?

02:57:03.000 No, it's a serious problem.

02:57:04.000 Where's the hose at?

02:57:05.000 It's a serious problem. 0.90

02:57:05.000 Like everyone's old now. 0.90

02:57:06.000 The pocket hose is available at.

02:57:08.000 Yeah.

02:57:10.000 Yeah.

02:57:11.000 Um, and finally, just shout out, um, and just that's the best ad campaign for pocket hose.

02:57:19.000 Yo, where the hose at?

02:57:20.000 And then it's like, What do you mean?

02:57:21.000 I can't find it.

02:57:21.000 Where'd a hose at?

02:57:22.000 And be like, Are you saying the hose or the hose?

02:57:24.000 The pocket hose, it shrunk to a small size, and now it's hard for me to locate.

02:57:28.000 The hose is in the palm of your hand.

02:57:31.000 So true.

02:57:31.000 Well, right on, man.

02:57:32.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:57:34.000 Just shout out, Texas members, and uh, just a small white pill, real quick, and y'all can get out of here.

02:57:39.000 Um, I often talk to my mom about how difficult is dating, just a lot of the problems that are going on in the country. 0.96

02:57:44.000 My mom.

02:57:44.000 We'll say that she's sorry for me.

02:57:47.000 She wishes she could have done more and stuff like that.

02:57:50.000 And that breaks my heart.

02:57:51.000 But on the flip side, for the white pill, I don't think the moms that sent their sons off to World War II, they've probably felt that same sadness.

02:58:00.000 And the guys who stormed those beaches, they felt duty.

02:58:03.000 They felt responsibility.

02:58:04.000 They felt honor for this country.

02:58:05.000 So despite it being as hard as it is for young men nowadays, we will take back this country.

02:58:10.000 We cannot give up.

02:58:12.000 Gotta push it.

02:58:13.000 Gotta get that touchdown.

02:58:14.000 Put the ball over the finish line, gentlemen.

02:58:16.000 Y'all have a great night.

02:58:17.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:58:18.000 It's very true.

02:58:18.000 It's true, man.

02:58:20.000 Ever black pill.

02:58:21.000 Yeah.

02:58:21.000 There's something about parents back in the day would send their children to go fight wars because they believed in this country.

02:58:30.000 And there were some parents that were scared their kids were going to go, you know, young men would go fight, but it meant something. 0.99

02:58:35.000 Now everybody's just like, get your bag and get the fuck out. 0.99

02:58:37.000 Well, they were used to it, too. 0.99

02:58:38.000 I mean, if they didn't, they certainly, their parents fought in a war.

02:58:42.000 If there's an actual threat, I would fight.

02:58:44.000 If it was an actual threat, you have no choice.

02:58:46.000 Will, it's been great.

02:58:47.000 Thanks, Your Hobby.

02:58:47.000 Thanks for coming.

02:58:48.000 It's a pleasure.

02:58:49.000 Absolutely.

02:58:49.000 We're back tomorrow, of course, everybody.

02:58:50.000 It's going to be fun.

02:58:52.000 And we're working on some big, big, big projects.

02:58:54.000 We're actually working on setting up a D.C. location.

02:58:57.000 We've actually been working on a D.C. location for years, but it's hard to get set up.

02:59:00.000 But now we're working with this new production company that's helping us get everything sorted.

02:59:03.000 So we should be able to get.

02:59:05.000 We've had like a few senators reach out, like higher profile politicians, but it's just hard to make the hour and a half trip.

02:59:10.000 So we'll see.

02:59:11.000 We'll see.

02:59:11.000 It's going to be fun.

02:59:13.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:59:13.000 We're back tomorrow.

02:59:14.000 We'll see y'all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - May 28, 2026

White House Drops ALIENS.GOV, Saying THEY WALK AMONG US | Timcast IRL

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