Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 16, 2026


White House Press Sec FIRED After Only 5 Days, Its OVER | Timcast IRL

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00:00:59.000 With only five days on the job, Katie Zachariah is out as press secretary.
00:01:05.000 And this story is just the whole political world's blown up because it's been bad for her. 0.98
00:01:11.000 This poor young woman, I mean, she kind of did it to herself. 0.85
00:01:13.000 She had a terrible day one, claims she was a lawyer when she wasn't. 0.93
00:01:18.000 Even Hannity came after her.
00:01:19.000 And then Donald Trump himself comes out and says, maybe this is not for her.
00:01:24.000 I guess she refused to resign because now we're hearing that she's been fired, which is massive.
00:01:29.000 So we'll talk about that, of course.
00:01:31.000 We also have flying cars.
00:01:33.000 Elon Musk has just announced the Roadster with an amazing display last night.
00:01:38.000 I'm sure most of you have seen it by now.
00:01:41.000 It generated 4,700 kilograms of downforce, suctioning itself upside down before ejecting and flipping over.
00:01:50.000 Not to mention, it launched from the ground and did a kickflip like 20 feet in the air.
00:01:56.000 This is a car doing it.
00:01:57.000 Mind you, it's not really a flying car.
00:01:59.000 It's got thrusters, but it can't really fly for all that long.
00:02:03.000 Estimates put it at maybe two to three seconds or less of flight time.
00:02:07.000 Still a very, very, very cool vehicle, and it's basically the biggest story.
00:02:11.000 So we'll talk about that.
00:02:12.000 And of course, my friends, we have new data coming out from the midterm elections.
00:02:15.000 North Carolina's early voting data has come in, and it is an apocalypse for the Republicans.
00:02:24.000 All voter turnout is up except the Republican Party, which is down.
00:02:28.000 Democrats have nearly 50% of the vote already, and that includes Republicans and independents.
00:02:36.000 I think Republicans have like 20% or less.
00:02:39.000 So, everybody's saying we thought it was going to be bad, but this is very, very bad.
00:02:44.000 So, my friends, welcome to the brand new Timcast IRL studio.
00:02:48.000 Can we get a wide shot real quick?
00:02:49.000 Do we have the wide shot?
00:02:50.000 Look at that!
00:02:51.000 Right there.
00:02:52.000 We are not yet done with setting everything up.
00:02:55.000 We still got a bunch of cool things to add, but of course, we got the guitars hanging out.
00:02:58.000 We got art and design and llamas and swords and all that cool stuff.
00:03:02.000 And we'll be adding more to it as we go.
00:03:06.000 We're still working on this, actually, just one studio in a bigger office.
00:03:09.000 We're based in D.C. now, which means when you get all the very special members of Congress with the midterm coming up, it's going to be a lot of fun.
00:03:15.000 But let's talk about the news today.
00:03:19.000 We have an interesting guy joining us today.
00:03:21.000 The story you were telling me before we even went live was crazy.
00:03:25.000 Which one was that?
00:03:26.000 Self sacrifice, losing, I shouldn't say losing, but putting all of your money into this one.
00:03:32.000 Introduce yourself, sir.
00:03:33.000 My name is Patrick Byrne.
00:03:34.000 I'm an entrepreneur.
00:03:36.000 I'm a bunch of different things, but one of the things was that I became in the Biden years.
00:03:41.000 Domestic extremist threat number one per the DHS.
00:03:44.000 Bravo, sir.
00:03:45.000 Quite proud of that.
00:03:46.000 Bravo.
00:03:46.000 Well done.
00:03:47.000 And that was because I sort of started this whole movement that I came out a few days after the Trump election of 2020 and I didn't vote for Trump, but I'm a Ron Paul guy, but I and a liberal, but that I came out and said was the first to say the election was rigged, these machines can't be trusted.
00:04:04.000 And for that, I got that movement going and eventually I had to flee the country for two years.
00:04:09.000 I figured it would have been you went to church too many times.
00:04:12.000 I don't know how much of this is public, but I was talking to you before and I was like, well, you're a billionaire, aren't you?
00:04:19.000 I was worth about half a billion.
00:04:21.000 And the reason why I brought that up is because it's crazy that they'd come after a man of such stature as yourself.
00:04:29.000 I mean, we've described this as a battle of the elites at the highest level.
00:04:35.000 For a man of your position to invest all of your resources into this fight, for them to try and come after you over it, what I'm trying to say, I guess, is that a lot of people don't believe.
00:04:46.000 That the ultra wealthy and the political class are separated from each other.
00:04:49.000 They assume that if you're ultra wealthy, you're in the club and you're going to stay in the club.
00:04:51.000 Well, I could have been in the club.
00:04:52.000 I was in the club, but I didn't want to be.
00:04:55.000 I'm not much of a joiner.
00:04:56.000 I'm not much of a joiner.
00:04:57.000 I also have an advantage.
00:04:58.000 I have no wife, no children, and I've had 119 surgeries as of this summer.
00:05:06.000 And I've had cancer now four times.
00:05:07.000 So I'm kind of a hard guy to scare.
00:05:10.000 And as Mike Flynn said to me once, what are you saving it for?
00:05:14.000 So I basically plowed it all into what I did in the last four or five years.
00:05:18.000 With what we're seeing with the midterms, it'll be interesting to hear your thoughts on all this stuff.
00:05:21.000 So I appreciate you joining us to hang out.
00:05:23.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:05:24.000 This is my honor, especially in your new.
00:05:25.000 I've been an admirer of yours since your New Jersey days.
00:05:28.000 I remember when you moved to West Virginia.
00:05:30.000 Yeah, I appreciate it, man.
00:05:31.000 Welcome, welcome.
00:05:32.000 You get to be here for day one of the new studio.
00:05:34.000 It's amazing.
00:05:35.000 My favorite thing about it the security.
00:05:37.000 Yeah.
00:05:38.000 Yeah.
00:05:39.000 The, the, the, you can't get in the building.
00:05:41.000 That's been an issue for you, right?
00:05:43.000 I mean, we, so when we moved, so we were in our Western Maryland studio, we didn't have a gate.
00:05:49.000 And so we had people actually just walk into the building like burglary, like literally it's, it's, it's like misdemeanor to felony territory, pulling up, walking in during these shows, and it's resulted in chaos.
00:06:01.000 And so we set up physical barriers for the legal requirement to be like, okay, and then hired security.
00:06:05.000 We built the new studio with an actual gate.
00:06:07.000 So we had one guy drive up to the gate and get out screaming that he was sent by God to come and talk to me.
00:06:13.000 And we're like, it's a good thing.
00:06:15.000 It was the guys who avoid.
00:06:16.000 Yeah, but it worked out.
00:06:17.000 I got a job out of it.
00:06:19.000 He was tenacious.
00:06:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:21.000 We were like, well, we'll let this one guy.
00:06:22.000 No, no, that guy did not get let in.
00:06:24.000 In fact, we went and grabbed our guns.
00:06:25.000 The new studio that we're in is part of a much larger media building.
00:06:31.000 Key card access, security guards, very, very, very secure and hard to find even if you make it into the building.
00:06:36.000 So, we're very excited for that.
00:06:38.000 And very excited to have you for our first day here at the new studio as we're still actually, you know, working on it and getting it up.
00:06:43.000 But the boys are hanging out.
00:06:45.000 Which of the boys is going to talk first?
00:06:46.000 Man, I'm glad you're here, Pat.
00:06:48.000 I mean, you were an early investor in mines, or I guess not an early investor, more of a mid late later investor.
00:06:54.000 I don't know, 2017, something like that, 2016.
00:06:56.000 Yeah, sounds right.
00:06:57.000 And your voter integrity thing is really important to me.
00:06:59.000 I think blockchain could be a really good use, like if we had 19 different blockchains that are.
00:07:04.000 The vote goes to so you could verify neither the chains have been compromised and sort of good in theory.
00:07:10.000 But we have to have two election systems that do two things one, it runs a fair election, and two, it's transparent.
00:07:17.000 Once you introduce technology and cryptography, no one's gonna, a few people are gonna understand it.
00:07:22.000 I think we got to get all the technology out of elections and go back to ballots.
00:07:26.000 Very simple.
00:07:27.000 Oh, no, no, I don't even trust that.
00:07:28.000 Everyone's got to go in a stadium and raise their hand, and then we're gonna count.
00:07:31.000 Yeah, say yay or nay.
00:07:35.000 Well, to be fair, everyone gets in a stadium and then you get a green or a red light and click a button.
00:07:40.000 Green finger, like they did in Iraq.
00:07:42.000 You have to put your fingerprint on the page.
00:07:44.000 But anyway, Phil and Tate are hanging out.
00:07:47.000 Hello, Tate.
00:07:47.000 How are you, sir?
00:07:48.000 How are you doing?
00:07:48.000 Hello, Phil.
00:07:49.000 I'm doing quite well.
00:07:49.000 Happy to be here in the nation's capital.
00:07:53.000 You can see the Capitol building right down the street.
00:07:56.000 It's very cool.
00:07:58.000 We were credibly told that senators and members of Congress will now gladly run over to do the show.
00:08:04.000 And that was part of it.
00:08:06.000 Part of it's like it's always annoying interviewing politicians because they give you politician answers.
00:08:10.000 I believe the congressmen will be here, congressmen and women will be here, senators.
00:08:14.000 No, no, we've had a few senators already reach out.
00:08:15.000 They get their nose up in the air.
00:08:16.000 It's crazy.
00:08:17.000 Wow, they think highly of themselves.
00:08:18.000 Don't bring them back if they give you the politician answers, just don't bring them back.
00:08:22.000 We're in for a treat.
00:08:23.000 I mean, I was hanging out with my friend Jack, shout out Jack, before the show, and we just went to get lunch, like literally down the street from here.
00:08:30.000 And exceptionally high profile individuals just sitting at the bar having a drink.
00:08:34.000 I'm like, can't say who it is?
00:08:35.000 No, no, I can't because I don't want to blow up a spot.
00:08:37.000 You can, but you will describe.
00:08:40.000 The context of this person's importance, like a politician?
00:08:43.000 He is the editor of arguably the largest.
00:08:46.000 A big media guy.
00:08:47.000 Big media guy.
00:08:47.000 Big media guy.
00:08:48.000 Big media guy.
00:08:49.000 And I wanted to go tap him on the shoulder and say, we have a spare chair, but I knew we were going to have a full house tonight.
00:08:52.000 So it's ordinarily, I could be like.
00:08:53.000 You don't want someone we know?
00:08:55.000 No, but someone that would be like, oh, I might pop by.
00:08:58.000 Whoa, Sounds like Tucker.
00:09:01.000 Tate, you gotta go up to these guys and be like, nice to meet you.
00:09:04.000 I'm Tate.
00:09:04.000 I'm with Tim Cass.
00:09:05.000 I don't know if you're familiar with Tim Cass.
00:09:06.000 Well, we didn't have an open chair today.
00:09:07.000 I didn't want to let him down.
00:09:07.000 I'm not saying you invite him now.
00:09:09.000 Just be like, you should come on at some point and take my phone.
00:09:11.000 Tate's like, I was undressed.
00:09:12.000 I didn't have a tie.
00:09:13.000 I know.
00:09:13.000 I just, I was off my game.
00:09:15.000 I'm glad we're here because it's like we're at an inflection point in human history with AI.
00:09:19.000 Like, that we're here in the capital of the largest, most powerful country in the world, a stone's throw away from Congress, running the world's government is like.
00:09:27.000 Ian's turning into a cowboy.
00:09:30.000 Just yeehaw, yeehaw, baby.
00:09:31.000 I'm going to throw a beard now.
00:09:32.000 I'm going to get Spurs next time.
00:09:33.000 I'm looking at you on the monitor and I'm like, every day Ian is more cowboy than he was the day before.
00:09:38.000 Come in.
00:09:38.000 Hiya.
00:09:39.000 It did get in and I whipped myself in the face training with it.
00:09:41.000 Oh, man.
00:09:41.000 It's a weapon.
00:09:43.000 It's not a toy.
00:09:44.000 It is not a toy.
00:09:44.000 Yeah, it's literally a weapon.
00:09:45.000 I really like it.
00:09:46.000 It's definitely not a toy.
00:09:47.000 You can whip things and pull them towards you and all that.
00:09:49.000 Okay, how about we talk about news?
00:09:50.000 Oh, yeah.
00:09:51.000 We've got this from the New York Times.
00:09:51.000 Let's get in.
00:09:53.000 Katie Zachariah's ousted after five days as White House press secretary. 1.00
00:09:57.000 The ouster came as Ms. Zachariah was shadowed by questions about how. 1.00
00:10:01.000 She had presented her legal career and handled her first press briefing.
00:10:05.000 All right, I'll give you the quick gist of it and then we'll get into it. 0.99
00:10:08.000 She comes on for her first day.
00:10:09.000 It's not very good.
00:10:10.000 She was stuttering, misspeaking.
00:10:13.000 She got roasted for it.
00:10:14.000 That, in and of itself, not that big a deal.
00:10:16.000 I mean, first day jitters.
00:10:18.000 I can understand that.
00:10:19.000 But then everyone's like, You said you're a lawyer.
00:10:21.000 Where did you pass the bar?
00:10:22.000 And she didn't.
00:10:24.000 And there's this weird moment where she's with Trump and someone asks, and then she leans in and says, When I was in China.
00:10:29.000 Now, the obvious thing there is.
00:10:31.000 No, she said, I went to China.
00:10:32.000 Like, I went to China instead of.
00:10:34.000 Passing the bar, or she was just answering a different question.
00:10:37.000 Well, she's like, yeah, just because someone yelled at Trump and then you heard her say something after Trump spoke doesn't mean she was.
00:10:43.000 There's a bunch of reporters all yelling things.
00:10:45.000 Well, she clarified she thought that the question that was asked was, Where did you go after you took the bar?
00:10:49.000 which is like a completely different wording.
00:10:51.000 She didn't take the bar, it would be hard to miss.
00:10:53.000 She took the bar, she just didn't pass.
00:10:55.000 You know, only 30 percent pass on the first try, only 30, so it's not that big a disgrace.
00:10:55.000 Oh, really?
00:11:00.000 70 percent, but she didn't try again.
00:11:02.000 Is this, and when they asked her, she said, I went to China.
00:11:05.000 I heard it as like.
00:11:06.000 Well, I didn't stay and do the bar exam again.
00:11:08.000 Instead, I went to China.
00:11:10.000 Is this a story where someone lied on their resume to get a job and then, oopsie?
00:11:14.000 It's another one of those stories.
00:11:15.000 Yeah.
00:11:17.000 Well, because Sean Hannity was roasting her on his show.
00:11:20.000 He interviewed her.
00:11:21.000 And wow.
00:11:22.000 I mean, when you're the Republican administration's press secretary and Sean Hannity has come for an interview and you get ambushed, it's like.
00:11:32.000 I had to look away.
00:11:33.000 Do we have a clip of that?
00:11:35.000 But the ambush was very non aggressive.
00:11:38.000 It was just versus forward.
00:11:40.000 Calculated by very simple, straightforward.
00:11:41.000 It shows that Hannity can be an attack dog whenever he wants.
00:11:45.000 I think there's two, I'd be curious what you guys think.
00:11:47.000 I think there's potentially two motivations for Hannity why he would do such a thing.
00:11:51.000 The first, I think, is likely that potentially President Trump gave him a call and said, Hey, it'd be convenient if you could maybe, you know, rough her up a little bit so that way we have an excuse to take her out.
00:12:03.000 Or the other explanation, which is also equally intriguing, and I want to get, you know, again, this is just what people are saying.
00:12:09.000 This is not my opinion.
00:12:10.000 That because she gave Jack Posobick her first big interview, you know, everyone wants the first interview with the new press secretary instead of Hannity.
00:12:18.000 Hannity might have had a bone to pick saying, Hey, I should have gotten the first.
00:12:21.000 I'm Trump's, you know, attack dog.
00:12:23.000 I should have gotten the first interview.
00:12:24.000 So some people are speculating maybe it was a personal, personal thing as well.
00:12:28.000 I'd be curious what you guys think on that.
00:12:28.000 I don't know.
00:12:30.000 I'd put my chips on number one.
00:12:31.000 Yeah, me too, actually.
00:12:33.000 Me too.
00:12:34.000 That does seem like something that Donald Trump would do.
00:12:37.000 I don't know much about Hannity's, you know, Vendettas against the current administration.
00:12:45.000 So I don't know that I have.
00:12:47.000 I got this tweet right here.
00:12:49.000 This guy Evan said, I have a feeling Donald Trump called Sean Hennity and told him to assassinate her, and he did.
00:12:53.000 This is the entire interview.
00:12:55.000 We'll just play some of it, but let's take a listen.
00:12:56.000 Straight ahead.
00:12:57.000 All right, Katie, I know this is a widely viewed interview for you.
00:13:03.000 And you had your first moment as press secretary.
00:13:08.000 It's been widely panned, I'm sure you're aware.
00:13:11.000 It only lasted 14 minutes.
00:13:12.000 You only took three questions questions about your legal background, calling yourself a lawyer.
00:13:19.000 You went to Pepperdine Law School, but you did not pass the bar exam, correct?
00:13:23.000 Correct.
00:13:25.000 Okay, what happened?
00:13:27.000 How did you feel it went personally?
00:13:29.000 Well, Sean, I want to give some background, and it's nice to be on here with you, and such a privilege to serve as President Trump's new press secretary.
00:13:37.000 I was given the offer last Wednesday, or I got a phone call last Wednesday.
00:13:42.000 I flew out to D.C. on Thursday.
00:13:44.000 I had a meeting on Friday, was offered the job, flew home to California on Saturday, flew back to Washington on Sunday, was asked to start on Monday, Sean, which is Columbus Day, and so it's a federal holiday.
00:13:59.000 And have a press briefing at 9 30 in the morning on Tuesday.
00:14:02.000 So, what I feel is I really stepped up and to the plate to do the press conference, Sean, with very little prep time.
00:14:10.000 I received briefing materials in the morning of Tuesday, and I went to deliver all of the great results that President Trump is delivering for the American people that are not often spread in the national media.
00:14:24.000 So, I took it as an opportunity so people would know what he's doing for Americans and how hard he's.
00:14:30.000 Working and then I delivered some breaking news.
00:14:34.000 I think I'm one of the first press secretaries to deliver staff changes for the administration, and I was honored that President Trump trusted me delivering that information.
00:14:44.000 And then I took several questions, and I think it's been mixed, Sean, because they've said I only took questions from conservative outlets.
00:14:53.000 However, the Daily Mail is not known to be a conservative outlet or friendly to conservatives, so I do challenge that narrative.
00:15:01.000 And then, as I should have, I ended the conference and I left.
00:15:06.000 As I believe, given the fact that I'd been on the job less than maybe eight hours and had a briefing book in the morning, I feel like I did my very best, Sean, to deliver for the American people that day.
00:15:19.000 We'll give Sean one response.
00:15:21.000 Am I hearing that you think the staff should have prepped you better?
00:15:25.000 Well, I believe that in that time, I could have just given a brief intro.
00:15:30.000 Okay, we get it.
00:15:31.000 We get it.
00:15:31.000 Already the chat is blowing up, and they're like, sorry, she's.
00:15:31.000 We get it.
00:15:35.000 Her voice.
00:15:37.000 Even her reply to Sean Hannity was not concise.
00:15:41.000 It was trying to pass the buck.
00:15:45.000 She's not the material to be the press secretary.
00:15:49.000 The appropriate response should have been that she went on Hannity and said, It was my first day.
00:15:53.000 I didn't do as well as I should have, but rest assured, I will do substantially better next time, and the president will be proud.
00:16:00.000 She was following.
00:16:02.000 He'd be like, Oh, I love it.
00:16:03.000 Carolyn Levitt was very good, and Kaylee McEnany was incredibly.
00:16:07.000 Knowledgeable about whatever topic the press threw at her.
00:16:11.000 She had that binder where she basically had the ammunition to answer almost anything the press was going to throw at her.
00:16:19.000 So they're a tough act to follow, but that doesn't mean that she did the job.
00:16:24.000 I got to say, I am over this. 0.98
00:16:29.000 Donald Trump basically being like, I want a white blonde woman to be the press secretary and not even looking at the qualifications.
00:16:38.000 We were talking about this before the show.
00:16:40.000 I'm not going to name the person, the individual person, but everyone's heard the story because I think Trump told it personally that he's in a meeting with a bunch of guys, and his lawyer, a young woman, comes in with paperwork.
00:16:49.000 And the guys, when she walks out, they're like, wow, she seems young.
00:16:53.000 Is she a good lawyer?
00:16:53.000 And Trump goes, she's good to look at.
00:16:56.000 And I'm just like, at a certain point, Trump, stop just like, it's like Berlusconi.
00:17:02.000 He's like, I'm going to surround myself with young women instead of people who can do the job.
00:17:05.000 I'm not trying to be a dick to Katie. 0.98
00:17:07.000 I do think the media attacked her unfairly. 0.98
00:17:10.000 She barely had a chance. 0.57
00:17:12.000 She's thrust in this position. 0.73
00:17:13.000 I get the lawyer thing.
00:17:15.000 People are like, you're lying on your resume.
00:17:16.000 I think that really did it. 0.85
00:17:18.000 She needed an opportunity, but at the same time, Donald Trump should maybe consider hiring, I don't know, qualified people instead of young blonde women again or women with lip fillers. 1.00
00:17:27.000 Qualified young blonde women? 1.00
00:17:29.000 Like I said, Kaylee McEnany and Karen Levett, both blonde, young, both women.
00:17:33.000 And they were good.
00:17:34.000 And they were good. 0.96
00:17:35.000 That's why I'm like, I'm not here to be like, no blonde women allowed.
00:17:39.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:40.000 I'm just saying at a certain point, Trump, Lord have mercy.
00:17:43.000 Like, with all due respect, Fox News is roasted for this all the time.
00:17:46.000 It's like, welcome to the white blonde woman show.
00:17:48.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a form of DEI.
00:17:50.000 You know, it's like, people complain about it, but. 0.90
00:17:53.000 If he wants the hot blonde shit, reverse DEI.
00:17:55.000 It's not that it's DEI. 0.98
00:17:56.000 It's like most people like looking at attractive blonde women.
00:18:00.000 I get it. 0.99
00:18:01.000 But Trump, come on.
00:18:04.000 Like Christy Nome, you know, like Pam Bondi, everyone's going, why is Trump just keep putting these women that it's, we get it.
00:18:13.000 It's Berlusconi.
00:18:14.000 It's, you know, I want to surround myself with women.
00:18:15.000 Well, it's funny.
00:18:16.000 You think about who's been like, he thinks he's Gaddafi.
00:18:19.000 Yeah, you do.
00:18:20.000 You think about who's been like the surprises or who's been like the successes, the strong, you know, the strong cabinet of Officials, you know, you start thinking, oh, Stephen Miller's been, you know, he's been pretty good.
00:18:29.000 Rubio's been a bit of a surprise.
00:18:30.000 You get on the list, you know, best since been interesting.
00:18:32.000 It's all men.
00:18:33.000 And then you're like, oh, who's been the flops so far in the cabinet?
00:18:36.000 It's all women. 1.00
00:18:37.000 It's like there's something there.
00:18:38.000 You were going to say something, Patrick.
00:18:39.000 Sorry, I cut you off.
00:18:40.000 Well, no, I, well, A, I agree that the classy answer that she should have given is first day jitters, I'll do better, I'll make you proud.
00:18:49.000 Would have let a lot slide.
00:18:54.000 He does have this habit.
00:18:56.000 And I'll tell you a personal story.
00:18:57.000 Do you remember this?
00:18:59.000 I think moderately famous story on December 18th, 2020, myself and General Flynn and Sidney Powell snuck into the White House and had this meeting.
00:19:08.000 That was me, that we snuck into the White House and met with Trump and tried to talk him into doing the right thing.
00:19:13.000 One of the things that made that happen was until then we had had a reasonably good way of communicating.
00:19:19.000 It was through Rudy, what we were learning.
00:19:21.000 We had all these computer scientists working for us, we were digging up stuff.
00:19:25.000 It was tough feeding it to Rudy, who was 85 and wasn't going to understand cybersecurity, but it was at least Rudy.
00:19:32.000 Somewhere in there, two journalists, I won't mention their names, attractive young women, went over.
00:19:38.000 This is late November 2020, went over to the White House one day.
00:19:42.000 I saw them go over dressed up in sort of flouncy dresses and high leather boots to go in and to the White House.
00:19:50.000 They came back three hours later and said to me and Mike Flynn, okay, okay, we've actually, we're now advising Trump, when you have stuff, you give it to us and we'll brief Rudy.
00:20:01.000 So we had like all kinds of cybersecurity guys doing amazing work.
00:20:05.000 And we had to feed it through a couple bimbos.
00:20:08.000 And he has no idea. 0.99
00:20:10.000 There's actually another woman, I won't mention who it is because I think it's actually one of the better women on the staff.
00:20:15.000 That allegedly, I'm told, she had hired, she was in a one piece bathing suit and high heels walking around his country club one day.
00:20:23.000 And he was having lunch, called her over, got to, and the next day he hired her as a lawyer.
00:20:27.000 Now she has turned out to be, I think, pretty solid.
00:20:30.000 But yeah, he's got this old man's penchant for just wanting to surround himself with hotties.
00:20:34.000 Lewd and lascivious, perhaps?
00:20:36.000 Well, I mean, it can't be that.
00:20:37.000 Lewd, she was wearing a one piece, right?
00:20:39.000 That's a joke.
00:20:39.000 All right.
00:20:42.000 Unforced errors.
00:20:43.000 And we don't mean, of course, like a unitard.
00:20:46.000 We mean just one piece.
00:20:47.000 Yeah, just one piece.
00:20:48.000 I'm kidding.
00:20:48.000 I'm kidding.
00:20:49.000 So you can have a whole category of unforced errors by Donald Trump.
00:20:53.000 I can sit here and say all kinds of things I agreed and admire about what he's done, but he has a long list of unforced errors.
00:21:01.000 Oh, I agree.
00:21:02.000 And like the annoying thing to me is the people who live in Trump can never do anything wrong world.
00:21:07.000 And I'm just like, listen, it is reasonable to say that Donald Trump is better than Kamala Harris would have been, and he's better than Joe Biden was.
00:21:16.000 But look, just because the Democrats are.
00:21:20.000 Wackaloons doesn't mean you got to just lick Trump's ass.
00:21:24.000 You know what I mean?
00:21:24.000 Like, this is stupid.
00:21:26.000 Why?
00:21:28.000 You know, I'll cut him some slack.
00:21:29.000 I will, because he tried bringing in the swamp guys, the DC guys in his first term, and that backfired.
00:21:35.000 So then he tries bringing in loyalists, but he brings in a bunch of these women, and it's like, okay, I'm just tired, to be completely honest.
00:21:42.000 I'm not going to pretend that Kamala Harris would be doing better.
00:21:44.000 I think it'd be substantially worse, to be honest.
00:21:46.000 I don't think we'd have a country anymore.
00:21:48.000 We just need a lot of Stephen Millers.
00:21:50.000 We need a lot of Stephen Millers.
00:21:52.000 Yeah, seriously, Trump should have just said, Stephen Miller, you're in charge, do whatever you want.
00:21:55.000 He's not particularly easy on the eyes, especially when compared to the people that Trump has had as press secretary.
00:22:01.000 But Stephen Miller is definitely the guy that seems to have Trump's ear and has his voice.
00:22:07.000 He's smart.
00:22:08.000 He's a very smart guy.
00:22:09.000 Stephen Miller should hit the gym right now and do that Chris Hemsworth Hollywood Thor routine.
00:22:14.000 On you.
00:22:14.000 Yeah.
00:22:14.000 And he just gets mad jacked.
00:22:16.000 Miller, he's mad.
00:22:16.000 And then he should show up doing that thing where it's like you have the collar with the tie but no shirt on.
00:22:21.000 Just like massively jacked and be like, I'm a secretary now and chief of staff.
00:22:26.000 Chippendale's out.
00:22:27.000 No, I want Stephen Miller to be chief of staff.
00:22:29.000 He needs to be, if the rumors are anything you go off of, I mean, that would be a serious, serious upgrade.
00:22:35.000 I think there's probably Trump admin officials who saw the news last night.
00:22:39.000 We're probably weeping tears of joy that Susie Wiles might be out, who's been causing tremendous problems.
00:22:45.000 I mean, if you look at a lot of these handicaps, you look at these corruption, these credible corruption accusations about the Trump administration, a lot of it goes back to her.
00:22:52.000 There's really no question about it.
00:22:54.000 And that's ultimately what's really frustrating.
00:22:55.000 This is how Orban and people of that ilk lost the youth.
00:23:00.000 You know, in Hungary, you look at the young right wingers, you know, people that are to the right of Genghis Khan were out on Orban.
00:23:06.000 A lot of it was this corruption, this tit tat, just kind of nonsense going on every day.
00:23:10.000 And then a lot of it was this boomer garbage that we're seeing where we're shoveling in all these Fox News hosts and getting nothing done.
00:23:17.000 And all we're doing is having these great sound bites.
00:23:19.000 Meanwhile, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of economic initors screaming for help, right?
00:23:23.000 Like the year over year week or hourly wages down.
00:23:27.000 I mean, this is stuff that affects young people dramatically.
00:23:30.000 So, you know, to get back to the, it's like sort of what I was getting at is just, You know, this kind of stuff is just really off putting to young people, and you may be saying, Well, you know, young people don't make up a large part of the voting base for primaries, and you're absolutely correct.
00:23:43.000 You don't need young people if you're a Republican and you're trying to win your primary, you don't need young people, that's just the reality of the situation.
00:23:48.000 But you're gonna need them, a in the future for voting, and then b to staff your campaigns.
00:23:54.000 Who do you think your activists are?
00:23:55.000 Your activists are your young people, that is the engine room of any political movement.
00:23:58.000 But did you guys run that video yesterday or the day before the uh, the the Instagram video I posted, I shared where it's like Gen Z versus boomers?
00:24:07.000 Oh, not yet.
00:24:07.000 Did you guys run that one?
00:24:08.000 We're going to run that one because I was talking about that earlier today.
00:24:08.000 We didn't.
00:24:12.000 And the idea that their boomer is saying, we're going to tax Gen Z to pay for our Social Security, you are asking for a revolution.
00:24:19.000 You are asking for Molotov cocktails through your window.
00:24:22.000 You are never going, like, I'm sorry.
00:24:25.000 I was shocked at that polling.
00:24:27.000 But let's do this.
00:24:28.000 Excuse me.
00:24:28.000 We'll get to that.
00:24:29.000 Let's jump here to this story.
00:24:30.000 We got this post from Data Republican.
00:24:33.000 16 October, North Carolina early voting update, day one, and it is bad for Republicans.
00:24:39.000 Ladies and gentlemen, the Republicans just got the first smack in the face, a 21.6 shift, 21.6 point shift towards Democrats.
00:24:51.000 Check this out.
00:24:52.000 In early voting, it opened yesterday.
00:24:55.000 Data Republican is saying the North Carolina map now defaults all early voting, yada, yada, yada.
00:24:59.000 At this point, 22, the early vote was D plus 13.
00:25:02.000 It finished D plus seven.
00:25:04.000 And Republicans still won every statewide race.
00:25:07.000 A Democratic lead in the early vote is normal.
00:25:09.000 Day one right now, we're looking at a 21.6 point shift, about a 21.5 point shift towards Democrats.
00:25:16.000 All early voting so far.
00:25:19.000 Now, of course, people are going to say, but hold on.
00:25:22.000 Early voting tends to be Democrat.
00:25:23.000 Anyway, yes, this is taking that into consideration.
00:25:28.000 Republicans are minus 9.1.
00:25:30.000 Democrats up 5.1.
00:25:32.000 Independents up 4.
00:25:34.000 Raw Democrat Republican margin plus 14.2 shift towards Democrats.
00:25:39.000 D plus 27.4.
00:25:41.000 With independents split by each county's RD ratio.
00:25:46.000 Turnout is up 25% overall and 47% in person.
00:25:53.000 Republicans are the only group that went down.
00:25:57.000 Republican in person bouts fell 12%.
00:26:01.000 Democrat rose 78%.
00:26:04.000 Lord have mercy.
00:26:06.000 Republicans are about to get kicked so hard in the balls, you're going to feel it at home.
00:26:11.000 Now, we got this from Kalshi.
00:26:13.000 Midterms balance of power currently sitting at a staggering 62% chance of a Democrat suite.
00:26:21.000 I also want to give a shout out to Kalshi.com for sponsoring the show.
00:26:24.000 And we love their data.
00:26:26.000 This is tracking where people are putting their money based on what they think is going to happen.
00:26:31.000 Polls be damned.
00:26:32.000 We've been talking about, yeah, well, you know, the polls could be biased indeed.
00:26:37.000 What we're looking at right now is where people are placing their money and more importantly, what people have already done.
00:26:42.000 So with that being said, boys, it's looking like the Republicans are going to get.
00:26:47.000 You know, the worst part about it is it's not just the Republicans are going to probably lose the House, and if these numbers hold, we'll lose the Senate, but the American people are going to pay for it.
00:26:47.000 In the ass.
00:26:57.000 There's not going to be any kind of movement on any policies that the Trump administration wants.
00:27:01.000 He'll still have the ability to do things through executive action, but he's also going to have significantly more resistance from the House.
00:27:07.000 And I think that it makes it more likely that a Democrat will win in 28 as president.
00:27:13.000 And if that's the case, unless the Republicans take the House back.
00:27:17.000 I don't completely agree.
00:27:18.000 I think.
00:27:19.000 One of the issues right now as to why Democrats are doing well is simply that Republicans control everything.
00:27:24.000 And if they control everything, no matter what happens, people will complain and the people who complain will vote against you because what are they really voting on?
00:27:30.000 I'm going to vote for the other guy.
00:27:31.000 I think the people are voting.
00:27:32.000 But my point is, come 2028, if Democrats take the legislative branch and things are bad, Republicans can use that to say, well, you voted the Democrats in the midterms and look what they brought.
00:27:43.000 I think people are blaming Donald Trump right now.
00:27:46.000 And I think that they'll continue to do that.
00:27:48.000 If the Democrats take the House and Senate, you're going to see.
00:27:52.000 Like I said, you're not going to see any kind of significant policies that help the American people because there's no incentive for the Democrats to pass legislation that helps the American people.
00:27:59.000 So you're going to have two more years of negative results for the American people.
00:28:03.000 And so they're still going to look at the Republicans and they're going to say, you didn't do anything.
00:28:06.000 Donald Trump's to blame.
00:28:07.000 They're still going to blame Donald Trump.
00:28:09.000 And I think the Democrats are like, I'm not completely convinced because if Democrats take the legislative branch, Republicans, I think, are counting on culture war conflict in which, of course, Democrats are going to impeach Trump.
00:28:21.000 Trump's going to say, we're trying to fix things and all you're doing is blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:28:25.000 And then When it comes time to vote, you know, I'll say this.
00:28:29.000 I think, and, you know, I'm going to say this because I think your opinion, Pedro, would be very, very different.
00:28:35.000 But without COVID, actually, you may agree, without COVID, Trump wins 2020.
00:28:39.000 Regardless of what you think about voting machines or anything like that, no mail in voting and Trump wins.
00:28:45.000 Like Biden, come on.
00:28:46.000 But when you get mass ballot harvesting and you get a COVID lockdown turning low propensity voters into active voters, then yeah, Democrats are going to pull out all the stops and they're going to have voter signature verification at a very, very low rate.
00:29:03.000 Make sure Biden gets those votes.
00:29:05.000 So 2028, I'm not so sure.
00:29:06.000 I think if Democrats do take Congress, They're going to do things, and Trump and the Republicans are going to campaign on what Democrats have done.
00:29:14.000 Hey, they wasted our time.
00:29:16.000 They caused fights, and we couldn't get bills passed, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:19.000 Let me give you a more draconian possibility.
00:29:22.000 On day one, Hakeem, well, first of all, if they take the House, Democrats will have Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.
00:29:29.000 He will, on day one, get Trump impeached.
00:29:32.000 The Senate, even if it's 51, 52 Democrats, you'll have, at this point, 16 to 20 Republicans will switch sides.
00:29:40.000 And vote to convict the establishment.
00:29:43.000 You think Republicans will vote to convict and I think there's enough of them.
00:29:46.000 I think there's 16 to 20 in there who have shown their true colors on some key votes and key more like committee votes over the last couple years.
00:29:57.000 They just there's the establishment Republicans want to be done with the Trump era and they will vote to convict.
00:30:02.000 You will have President Hakeem Jeffries and AOC or somebody as his vice president.
00:30:07.000 Well, they're not going to remove Vance.
00:30:09.000 No, they will.
00:30:10.000 The Democrats are so crazy at this point, they will impede, they'll indict them both.
00:30:14.000 They'll impeach them both, and you'll have Republicans who will do that.
00:30:18.000 I can certainly see a reality where they'd like to remove Vance, but they do not have the political capital for that.
00:30:23.000 Removing Trump is a long shot already, because these, while I agree with, there's probably a fair amount of Republican senators who are ready to jump ship.
00:30:32.000 The issue is, will they survive politically back home in their states?
00:30:36.000 I don't think so.
00:30:37.000 I think Trump, his polls are bad, but he still controls so much of the Republican base, the MAGA Republican base, that you come out as a Republican senator and say Trump is bad and you're voting to impeach him, you lose.
00:30:48.000 20, 30% of that vote, you'll never get elected again.
00:30:51.000 So I think Trump getting convicted is a long shot, but throwing Vance in there, I don't see that being a possibility.
00:30:57.000 I mean, Vance was a senator.
00:30:59.000 So I mean, he does a personal relationship with a lot of these Republican senators.
00:31:02.000 So yeah, I mean, to Tim's point, Trump's a long shot, but I think Vance is probably off the table just because a lot of these guys knew him personally.
00:31:10.000 And, you know, a lot of this culture war stuff, a lot of these senators hating each other, as we all know, is all kind of kayfabe.
00:31:16.000 Behind the scenes, they all get along, they're all chumming it up.
00:31:18.000 I think Vance is in the Senate long enough where, especially the Republican senators, will probably, they won't risk that relationship getting thrown in the air.
00:31:26.000 From your lips to God's ear.
00:31:27.000 Yeah.
00:31:29.000 It's fair.
00:31:29.000 Yeah.
00:31:31.000 Well, I mean, look, if the Republicans don't, I mean, I see, I don't think that I would put anything past the Democrats.
00:31:40.000 I'm not so sure that there are that many Republicans.
00:31:43.000 There'd have to be 60 votes to get him out for him to be convicted, correct?
00:31:46.000 67.
00:31:46.000 67.
00:31:47.000 But if the Democrats had 52, 53 seats, then they need. 0.54
00:31:51.000 14, 15, 16 Republicans. 0.52
00:31:53.000 Yeah.
00:31:53.000 I mean, I think that there are Republicans that would vote to impeach.
00:31:57.000 I just don't know if there are that many Republicans.
00:31:59.000 Well, what I will say is this.
00:32:01.000 If I don't think it's day one, if there is a scenario in which they do convict Trump and get 15 Republicans to flip, you're going to need a political cast of belly, as it were.
00:32:13.000 So let's say day one, Hakeem Jeffries says, we're going to be launching congressional investigations against Republicans for impropriety, Donald Trump, and his political lawfare.
00:32:23.000 What they would have to do.
00:32:25.000 Is, and I don't put it past him, is fabricate or let's just say drum up a story of such corruption that Republican senators say something like, I'm sorry, I don't want this to be the case, but I have no choice.
00:32:41.000 Since we learned that Donald Trump kicked that puppy into a burning building and left it, I must vote to convict.
00:32:47.000 So, whatever the story is, they will first have to take six to 12 months.
00:32:54.000 Building up this narrative and getting a story so that enough Americans are shocked, and then they create the pathway by which Republicans could defect and say Trump's got to be removed.
00:33:04.000 Good analysis.
00:33:05.000 What I'm afraid is that Trump has given hostages to fortune, that he has, because of the corruption around him, allowed things to happen, particularly with regards to Venezuela, that could provide the Democrats just that story.
00:33:20.000 Russia.
00:33:21.000 This Trump cutting a deal with Russia on oil right now, particularly at a time when Russia was already sanctioned, showing the desperation due to the Iran war.
00:33:29.000 I think what we'll likely see is you might get hearings on Trump's, the schoolgirls that were killed in Iran.
00:33:38.000 Imagine Democrats come out and say, based on new evidence received, we're launching an inquiry into the, you know, 50, 60 schoolgirls that were killed by Trump ward strikes.
00:33:48.000 They'll then get people to come and testify before Congress about the little girls that were murdered.
00:33:52.000 And then they'll, you'll get, you know, I don't know, insert Democrat going on TV and saying, it shocks the conscience that Donald Trump.
00:34:02.000 Murdered those little girls.
00:34:04.000 And then you get Republicans saying, like, while we understand that war is tragic, Donald Trump was callous, reckless, and murderous in the murder of these children.
00:34:13.000 All they got to do is parade every single day and every single media outlet that Trump murdered little girls.
00:34:17.000 And Republicans are going to, what happens is these Republicans probably still know they'll lose, but they'll be able to go to their rally and say, I have no choice.
00:34:27.000 Trump murdered those children.
00:34:30.000 Right.
00:34:30.000 That is one, that is one.
00:34:33.000 I do think it has turned out that there was an IRGC facility next to that school.
00:34:38.000 Oh, I didn't say it was true or false.
00:34:39.000 We had precision weapons.
00:34:40.000 Our precision weapons are not always as precise as they were supposed to be, is what happened.
00:34:44.000 There is no truth, only the argument.
00:34:46.000 The Democrats need only say that's a lie to cover up for a man who murdered children.
00:34:51.000 And this is what's going to happen.
00:34:52.000 I mean, look what they said about you, right?
00:34:55.000 They went after you like crazy and much worse.
00:35:00.000 I got some of this heat when Merrick Garland came out in October and accused me of indirectly taking money from Russia.
00:35:05.000 Oh, that's right.
00:35:05.000 You were a Russian asset, too?
00:35:06.000 All fake.
00:35:07.000 Completely, here we are still doing the show, still making money, nothing's changed.
00:35:11.000 And then a month after the election, it disappears.
00:35:13.000 Yes, it may be true that it was collateral damage, it was accidental.
00:35:17.000 They will just lie.
00:35:18.000 They'll say, Trump, they'll say, We, you know, you'll get Adam Schiff going on TV holding up a middle folder saying, I can't show this because it's classified.
00:35:27.000 But a source said, Trump said, kill those girls.
00:35:31.000 And it doesn't matter if it's true or not.
00:35:32.000 Why do you think that's a higher probability event than some of the people around him who are involved in.
00:35:39.000 You know, Jared and Whitcroft are out there with out of one side of the mouth, they're negotiating like they're U.S. government officials.
00:35:46.000 Out of the other side of the mouth, they're like doing condo deals.
00:35:49.000 Because a third grader can't understand that.
00:35:52.000 So when you look at politics, I think they say that the average grade vocabulary is third grade.
00:36:00.000 So if you go to a third grader and say, listen, you need to understand about Jared Kushner and Whitcroft, these guys are running backroom deals where they're negotiating with the Saudis and then going with it, you have the ambassador to Greece, and the third grader is going to be like, I want pizza.
00:36:14.000 But if you go to the third grader and say, Donald Trump hit your friend Sally, he'll go, Why?
00:36:20.000 Why would Trump do that?
00:36:23.000 So, you're going for the lowest common denominator.
00:36:25.000 And I'm not trying to say the average American is stupid.
00:36:27.000 I'm trying to say that an average American who doesn't pay attention to politics hears Trump intentionally murdered children.
00:36:34.000 And they're going to be like, look, I don't know what's going on, but I am not in favor of that.
00:36:38.000 And if they can shift things against Trump even 10 or so points, you can get those defector Republican senators to say, I understand that you like Trump.
00:36:46.000 I understand you don't like Democrats.
00:36:47.000 But as a man or woman of principle, I am here to lead the American people and do what's right.
00:36:52.000 And the revelations that we received about Donald Trump ordering that strike on the school intentionally.
00:36:56.000 Are disqualifying for me, I'm voting to convict.
00:36:58.000 Again, I'm not saying that's true.
00:37:00.000 I'm saying it is the cleanest narrative for Democrats to approach because the story already exists in the mind of people.
00:37:06.000 Democrats have already campaigned on it effectively.
00:37:09.000 And once they're in Congress, they can find new evidence.
00:37:12.000 To your point about getting JD Vance, I think that they won't stop with JD Vance.
00:37:17.000 I mean, there was already Ro Khan is talking about impeaching the Daft Terrier War.
00:37:23.000 So, Thomas R.C. started that.
00:37:25.000 Yeah, I mean.
00:37:26.000 They'll come for him next.
00:37:26.000 And Ian.
00:37:27.000 But if they get Trump in advance, number three in line is Speaker Hakeem Jeffries.
00:37:27.000 Did I?
00:37:34.000 Indeed.
00:37:35.000 And then you have a situation where you've got a significant majority in the House and in Congress or in the Senate and a Democrat president.
00:37:45.000 They'll be pushing through all sorts of policies intended to make sure that Republicans cannot win again.
00:37:51.000 Well, we're a communist China at that point.
00:37:53.000 Yeah, agreed.
00:37:54.000 And so. 1.00
00:37:56.000 Remember the first thing that Nancy Pelosi did when Biden got in? 1.00
00:38:01.000 H.R. 1 was federalize the elections and pack the Supreme Court. 1.00
00:38:07.000 They want to federalize the elections, pack the Supreme Court.
00:38:10.000 They'll also recognize 10 million, 20, 50 million illegal aliens, make them citizens.
00:38:15.000 There's no way to get out.
00:38:16.000 I understand that people are upset with Trump or angry at the Trump administration, however you want to phrase it.
00:38:21.000 But the things that the Democrats want to do, I don't think the American voting public is cognizant of the actual things that they're looking to do.
00:38:32.000 Because the Democrats will do to the federal government what they've done in California, which is essentially block out any kind of opposition party.
00:38:42.000 You'll have the Republicans looked at as maybe a regional party, but the real actual contest is going to be who gets nominated by the Democrats in the primaries.
00:38:52.000 The thing is, though, like.
00:38:53.000 Real quick, sorry.
00:38:53.000 Don't forget what you're going to say because I want to address a comment.
00:38:56.000 One of our Discord members, Gonfall, says, but they are stupid, Tim.
00:39:01.000 I want to clarify something for this audience and for our members.
00:39:04.000 You're all smart, and I genuinely mean it.
00:39:07.000 The average person isn't stupid.
00:39:08.000 You're smarter than they are.
00:39:09.000 And that's not an insult to the average person.
00:39:11.000 Average is average.
00:39:12.000 That's the normal degree of intelligence.
00:39:14.000 And I also want to stress that there are people out there who are not stupid.
00:39:19.000 They just don't have the time to focus on what we focus on.
00:39:24.000 So there's a guy out there who's a tradesman and he works 40 hours and he comes home and he wants to hang out for a few hours with his kids, watch TV with his wife, have a nice meal and go to bed.
00:39:33.000 He does not have time to be immersed in politics.
00:39:36.000 That man is not stupid.
00:39:38.000 There are stupid people.
00:39:40.000 My point is this.
00:39:42.000 I like, you know, I'll jokingly say, like, ah, man, Americans, man, they can be so stupid, blah, blah, blah.
00:39:47.000 No, the reality is you guys are focused on these things.
00:39:50.000 You're paying attention to the world because you are above average to a small degree, from a small degree to a great degree.
00:39:57.000 Just don't forget, just because you're smarter than average doesn't mean the average person is stupid.
00:40:02.000 That's all I wanted to say.
00:40:03.000 Yeah.
00:40:03.000 And stupidity and ignorance are not the same thing.
00:40:05.000 Not knowing doesn't mean that you are unable to learn it.
00:40:08.000 And sometimes, Very smart people are.
00:40:12.000 Anyway, what I was going to talk about was communist China because you guys said your fear that if the Democrats get into power, we might be seeing.
00:40:18.000 But, like, the Trump administration, I just pulled up the numbers, has bought 36 companies, used government funds to buy percentages of government.
00:40:27.000 The Chinese Communist Party is known for buying companies.
00:40:29.000 It owns 51% of its corporations.
00:40:31.000 36 companies in the last few years.
00:40:33.000 As of October 15th, the Trump administration has used U.S. tax dollars to buy and socialize, which is the, as we know, the first step towards communism.
00:40:42.000 What's the difference at this point?
00:40:44.000 Ian, let me give you a hand.
00:40:45.000 We're a mixed economy, meaning elements of these things do exist with the United States.
00:40:49.000 We're not a Free market, laissez faire capital.
00:40:51.000 It's very rare for the government to invest and buy private companies like they have been.
00:40:56.000 Oh, heavy metals companies, chips companies, gas companies.
00:40:59.000 It's not rare though.
00:41:00.000 We're a mixed economy means we're 50 50.
00:41:02.000 That's what a mixed economy is.
00:41:03.000 We have social programs, welfare, high taxes, but we are not a.
00:41:08.000 So understand that when it comes to economics, communism, socialism, or I should say socialism economically to capitalism are gradients.
00:41:15.000 You can be a capitalist country with some social programs and still be a capitalist country.
00:41:20.000 You can be a socialist company with capitalist mechanisms, but.
00:41:23.000 The issue is the gradient.
00:41:25.000 If overwhelmingly the government controls the stake and the means of production, we'd call you socialist.
00:41:30.000 The United States is called a mixed economy because it's split somewhat 50 50.
00:41:34.000 I pulled it up.
00:41:35.000 It says historically it's very unusual for the U.S. government to buy ownership stakes and dozens of private companies during normal economic conditions.
00:41:41.000 I will admit we're not in a normal economic time right now.
00:41:44.000 So, like during wartime, I mean, Pat, you ran over stock for a while.
00:41:50.000 Would it have been out of the pale for the government to come in and buy 10% of your company?
00:41:55.000 Would it have been out of the pale to do that?
00:41:57.000 However, there are national security reasons that they're stepping in and saying, gee, we have to revive our rare earths industry.
00:42:07.000 We have to invest in companies to bring chip manufacturing into the U.S.
00:42:12.000 We can't leave it in Taiwan.
00:42:14.000 So, for national security reasons, the government does have a history of stepping up, like in World War II.
00:42:19.000 It made some big investments in companies so they could accelerate, and it was companies that they needed for national security reasons.
00:42:27.000 So, that's why Trump's doing that right now.
00:42:29.000 Yeah.
00:42:31.000 It's worth noting that the Chinese Communist Party, the way that they own part of companies isn't by buying a stock or percentage of stock.
00:42:41.000 It's a different thing.
00:42:44.000 The Chinese state directly owns a significant portion of China's corporate sector through state owned enterprises, and they exert control over nominally private companies through indirect mechanisms.
00:42:53.000 So it's not the same thing as the U.S. buying stock of a company in order to prop the company up.
00:42:58.000 They don't sit on the board, like the federal government in the U.S. doesn't sit on the board.
00:43:02.000 They don't have the right to tell the CEO how they have to run the business or whatever.
00:43:08.000 It's essentially the government would say that it's an investment in companies that are important to the United States.
00:43:12.000 China actually directs the way that these companies work.
00:43:16.000 Did you do a lot of business with China?
00:43:19.000 Well, I've lived there in the early 80s.
00:43:21.000 I speak pretty good Chinese and I'm quite familiar with the economy.
00:43:25.000 Do you see like a very, like, what's your biggest difference?
00:43:28.000 Where do you see these differences in the.
00:43:29.000 Anyway, but if you had something also you're going to tap on.
00:43:31.000 Well, I think you're going down the right path talking about China.
00:43:35.000 There's that.
00:43:36.000 This is what the context that we're operating in is World War III.
00:43:40.000 There is a Chinese, there was a Chinese general named, you can look this up, the secret speech of Chur Haotian, that he resigned in 2003.
00:43:49.000 His retirement speech was leaked.
00:43:52.000 And it lays out what their plan is.
00:43:54.000 They've been on a 100 year plan to take us down.
00:43:57.000 And he said in 2003, we're going to hit them with America with a bioweapon, destabilize them.
00:44:03.000 We're going to get the cartels to get millions of people into the country.
00:44:07.000 There'll be a three year civil war.
00:44:09.000 Rape, pillage, loot, and burn, and when there's nothing left but a carcass, we infiltrate and take over, and it becomes new China.
00:44:16.000 That's been the China in 1993.
00:44:18.000 The Chinese and the Russians made that as a deal.
00:44:21.000 Russia gets Alaska and Western Canada, China gets the U.S. and Eastern Canada.
00:44:25.000 It's all in their national security literature.
00:44:27.000 What we are seeing is, I believe, a Chinese plan to destabilize and take us down and then occupy us.
00:44:34.000 And as crazy as that sounds, read books like Unrestricted Warfare by a couple of Chinese generals, or The Hundred Year Marathon, or The Secret Speech of Chu Hao Tian that lay this plan out.
00:44:47.000 So, what we're living through is a Chinese, is a communist subversion.
00:44:51.000 And their plan is to exterminate everyone, by the way, other than 20 million whites they keep alive as slaves for five years.
00:44:57.000 And that's in the Chinese national security literature.
00:45:00.000 So, I feel like we're all sort of rearranging deck chairs in the Titanic not to understand in that context.
00:45:05.000 And in that context, although I'm a total Milton Friedman guy, but when you're talking, Milton Friedman might not have understood national security exactly.
00:45:15.000 And there are times where the Department of Defense or the intelligence community needs to make investments.
00:45:20.000 To get companies stood up and producing something faster than the market would do it on its own.
00:45:26.000 Do you think that's a good idea right now, what they're doing?
00:45:28.000 I think it's a good idea to do right now.
00:45:30.000 I don't think in general it should be in the business of picking winners and losers, but there are some key industries we needed to get onshore.
00:45:37.000 One of them was chip manufacturing, rare earth, mid-systems.
00:45:40.000 Same thing with AI, producing pharmaceuticals.
00:45:44.000 We shouldn't have to look to China for basic things like antibiotics and that stuff.
00:45:48.000 Anything that we need for national security should be, we can.
00:45:51.000 We can have a market, but have at least the basics.
00:45:55.000 Even 10 or 20% of the manufacturing here, and then outsource the rest.
00:45:59.000 So you always have search capacity.
00:46:00.000 You know, it's the one race or ethnic group you're allowed to rag on.
00:46:04.000 So I can just say, you know, maybe white people deserve it.
00:46:10.000 But I'm being shocking intentionally.
00:46:11.000 What I mean is, this is a country, the West, founded on people who, what, 20% died on the boats coming to colonize, to conquer this country.
00:46:22.000 These were people who colonized and conquered.
00:46:25.000 A landmass to a great degree.
00:46:28.000 And so we have a tradition of work hard, succeed, take what you must, but be kind, et cetera, et cetera.
00:46:36.000 Today, half of white people are out group preferred, meaning they hate white people, they hate themselves.
00:46:43.000 China doesn't have this.
00:46:45.000 China is racially supremacist, ethically supremacist.
00:46:48.000 So if it is white people being split in half, and I know what I'm going to hear, I'm going to hear people say, It's because there's manipulation, because China's lying to people.
00:46:58.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:46:58.000 Okay, that's all part of it, too.
00:47:00.000 If China was able to go to half of white people and be like, burn yourselves and destroy your countries, and they went, you got it, boss.
00:47:06.000 Well, then that's reality as to what's happening.
00:47:09.000 So I'm not saying it's a good thing.
00:47:11.000 I'm not saying it should happen.
00:47:12.000 I'm saying my worldview is that you take responsibility for everything that happens to you, even if you didn't do it.
00:47:19.000 This is a lesson I learned from my dad, where I was going to school one day when I was a kid, I was like 14.
00:47:25.000 And there's a train.
00:47:27.000 And so I sit down at the tracks.
00:47:29.000 Train took 40 minutes.
00:47:30.000 I get to school late.
00:47:32.000 They give me a tardy, which is like you get a suspension.
00:47:35.000 And so then I got to go to get it signed by my dad.
00:47:37.000 And I was like, this is not fair.
00:47:38.000 There's a train.
00:47:39.000 I was sitting there for 40 minutes.
00:47:41.000 And my dad goes, Do you know the train tracks there?
00:47:43.000 I was like, Yeah.
00:47:44.000 And he goes, Okay.
00:47:45.000 So you should have planned ahead for the train tracks being there instead of blaming other people for you being late.
00:47:49.000 And I think he was right.
00:47:51.000 The point is, we know exactly what is and what has been going on.
00:47:55.000 And if our American people and Europe, Are so weak that they would let China do this to them.
00:48:01.000 Well, then, at a certain point, you need to accept responsibility for your own weakness.
00:48:06.000 That being said, I say this with love.
00:48:08.000 What I am saying is, Americans, wake up, get strong, do the hard work, and stop letting China stomp all over you.
00:48:14.000 Palmer Lucky has been prolific in this.
00:48:18.000 He heads Anderl, which is a weapons, AI weapons manufacturing company.
00:48:21.000 I think that's the right way to put it.
00:48:22.000 Oh, yeah.
00:48:22.000 But he's big on morale, boosting morale that we can defeat China in the long run, that we will.
00:48:28.000 Because he's like, yeah, yeah, they have an advantage right now.
00:48:30.000 They have a technical advantage because of the way they've industrialized their populace and their setup.
00:48:35.000 But we can still do it.
00:48:37.000 And you need people to believe it.
00:48:39.000 You need crazy people like me that believe we can.
00:48:41.000 Even if we can't, you still need to believe it.
00:48:43.000 Otherwise, there's 0% chance.
00:48:45.000 Not only that, but we're.
00:48:46.000 Real quick, I guess I'm going to throw this in the mix as well.
00:48:49.000 Why is it okay for you to go online and disparage white people as a racial and ethnic group, but literally nobody else?
00:48:56.000 Why do Americans tolerate that this is the system, the culture that we live in?
00:49:02.000 You're going to get stomped into the earth by literally every other country if your country says you're not allowed to denigrate any racial group, anybody, especially Asians.
00:49:14.000 They're in this as well.
00:49:15.000 But white people are fair game.
00:49:17.000 Okay, that results in one thing culturally, white people are bad.
00:49:20.000 Everyone else is good.
00:49:21.000 Well, it results in a lot of people saying, you know what, I'm not going to play by those games again or by those rules anymore.
00:49:27.000 I mean, sooner or later, you might get right with Donald Trump pushing back on China.
00:49:32.000 The question is, can Trump survive politically?
00:49:36.000 I mean, I guess technically, literally, considering they tried to kill him several times.
00:49:39.000 Well, it seems like the China hawks are really asserting themselves in the GOP long term.
00:49:43.000 I mean, I think this Iran conflict, the Middle Eastern, I think that's kind of the last bastion of the older generations in the GOP, the neocons who are.
00:49:53.000 Israel centric, et cetera.
00:49:55.000 It seems like this newer gen. I mean, you look at guys in the Pentagon, like Elbridge Colby.
00:49:58.000 I mean, these are like serious China hawks.
00:50:00.000 And I think as time goes on in the GOP, the consensus will sort of calcify around an anti China posture and probably leave Israel out of the equation.
00:50:09.000 To be specific, too, when I brought up Palmer Lucky and what he was saying about China, beating China does not mean destroying China or invading them or militarily fighting them.
00:50:18.000 It means being able to destroy them and choosing not to.
00:50:18.000 It doesn't.
00:50:21.000 That's where we're headed right now.
00:50:23.000 That's what we need to do.
00:50:24.000 One of the things that Palmer Lucky talks about a lot that I Totally agree with him.
00:50:28.000 Is during World War II, we converted a lot of our existing industry to making products for the war effort.
00:50:36.000 And nowadays, all of our technology, which is all of our advantage over other countries, it's all very, very proprietary.
00:50:47.000 You know, the parts can't be made everywhere.
00:50:48.000 And he's one of the things that he talks about with Andrew is he wants to be able to build weapons that are functional and that work well, but that you can.
00:50:58.000 Quickly mass produce.
00:51:00.000 And he mentioned the store probably doesn't even exist anymore.
00:51:02.000 He's like, but with parts that you could go down to Radio Shack and get.
00:51:06.000 And so it's simple things that are already being produced and use those kind of things in the weapons that he's making.
00:51:13.000 So that way you can ramp up production because off the shelf.
00:51:18.000 Because the current situation is we do have an advantage over China, but we run out of munitions.
00:51:26.000 I think the forecast is like in eight days.
00:51:28.000 And one of the things that Palmer, like you said, he's like, What about the 80th day?
00:51:31.000 What about the 800th day?
00:51:33.000 You want to be able to sustain a conflict.
00:51:37.000 And even if the conflict never arises, your enemies knowing that you can do that is a deterrent.
00:51:45.000 So the other day, we got stink bugs out here in Delmarva and the D.C. area.
00:51:51.000 You guys have seen the stink bugs everywhere?
00:51:52.000 One on my windshield earlier today.
00:51:53.000 You went up flying once I hit the freeway.
00:51:55.000 Thank you.
00:51:55.000 They're funny.
00:51:56.000 I remember I was recording a year or so ago, a couple years ago, I talked about it.
00:52:00.000 And after I finished recording, I looked up and there was a stink bug and it was going like this.
00:52:04.000 And I was like, hey, he's piping for me.
00:52:06.000 Stink bugs are harmless, but they are a major annoyance.
00:52:10.000 So, my buddy the other day, I had like 100 stink bugs crawling all over the place just because they're relentless.
00:52:16.000 And I'm vacuuming them up.
00:52:18.000 And he was like, man, like, where did these things come from?
00:52:21.000 You know, he doesn't know.
00:52:21.000 He doesn't pay attention to politics.
00:52:22.000 He has no idea what's going on in the world.
00:52:23.000 And I said, bro, they're from China.
00:52:25.000 These are Chinese stink bugs.
00:52:26.000 The brown marmarated stink bugs.
00:52:29.000 Excuse me.
00:52:29.000 They came from China.
00:52:30.000 And he was like, wow.
00:52:31.000 So, like, what?
00:52:32.000 We just bought stuff from China.
00:52:33.000 And I was like, no, I think Chen did it on purpose.
00:52:38.000 I've been sick.
00:52:39.000 Anyway, he's like, why would.
00:52:42.000 He's like, oh, okay.
00:52:42.000 He laughed.
00:52:43.000 They sent stink bugs on purpose.
00:52:44.000 And I was like, yes, because it destroys our economy.
00:52:46.000 And then he laughed and he was like, oh, right.
00:52:48.000 And I was like, no, I mean this seriously.
00:52:51.000 Let me explain.
00:52:52.000 How much time did I just spend vacuuming up stink bugs that have been crawling through the windows?
00:52:58.000 10 minutes?
00:52:59.000 I do that, what, two or three times per day?
00:53:02.000 30 minutes of productivity lost for a single individual because I'm getting up and going, I got to get rid of these stink bugs.
00:53:08.000 Now, of course, to an individual, it's completely meaningless.
00:53:11.000 But China's not looking at individuals.
00:53:12.000 They're saying, How much economic damage can we cause?
00:53:16.000 So I'll put it like this.
00:53:18.000 Every day a dude walks up and flicks your ear.
00:53:20.000 It's annoying, but you'd tolerate it.
00:53:23.000 Eventually, you're frustrated.
00:53:25.000 You're angry.
00:53:26.000 It's been happening all the time.
00:53:27.000 You don't like it.
00:53:28.000 It's cost time.
00:53:30.000 You add a thousand deaths by a thousand cuts.
00:53:32.000 That's what I think.
00:53:33.000 I think the lantern flies are destroying trees.
00:53:36.000 We've got so many invasive species from China that are destroying plant life in the Appalachian area.
00:53:43.000 The wine berries, they're delicious, but.
00:53:45.000 They're aggressive and they destroy other plants.
00:53:47.000 So it's illegal to transport them.
00:53:49.000 These stink bugs, they reproduce.
00:53:52.000 They have no predators.
00:53:54.000 And if it takes a single person five minutes per day to deal with, multiply that economic output drain.
00:54:00.000 China has been thinking about all of these things.
00:54:03.000 All of these things.
00:54:04.000 So don't just look at the stink bugs, look at all of the little things where we get jammed up, add them together, and ask yourself what our economic output has been reduced by because of these actions.
00:54:15.000 China's looking at it like a game of blackjack.
00:54:18.000 The casino has a 0.5% edge.
00:54:21.000 And you're probably thinking, the average person goes, it's basically 50 50.
00:54:24.000 What's 0.5%?
00:54:26.000 And the casino goes, you're right.
00:54:28.000 Every hand is 50 50 for the most part between you and me.
00:54:31.000 But we're playing 50,000 hands per hour.
00:54:34.000 And that 0.5% is keeping the lights on.
00:54:37.000 That's what China is thinking.
00:54:38.000 They're treating it like if we give ourselves a 0.1% edge and the U.S. tolerates the minus 1% disadvantage, From something as dumb as stink bugs, we win in 100%.
00:54:49.000 That also compounds.
00:54:51.000 You get 0.1%, but then later you do 0.1% of the new number, and then you do 0.1% of the new number, so you get this escalating.
00:54:58.000 And the point is the United States will not declare war against China because stink bugs arrived on cargo ships.
00:55:05.000 I'd like to pile on that point.
00:55:07.000 30 years ago, two Chinese colonels wrote a book called Unrestricted Warfare, the thesis of which was Americans only understand warfare when it gets kinetic, when there's bullets flying and such.
00:55:18.000 But actually, there are all these levels to warfare that we Chinese.
00:55:22.000 Understand and from diplomatic to economic and financial, civilizational, you know, through Hollywood and things like that.
00:55:30.000 And we're gonna, we're gonna, it's in our interest not to litigate kinetic with the United States, but to fight them on all these different levels.
00:55:37.000 Yep.
00:55:38.000 Strip their, and what you're talking about, they do all kinds of research on introducing, yeah, they've, we, the government has caught Chinese people releasing pests, various kinds of pests in our Midwest.
00:55:49.000 Do you remember when people were getting mailed bags of seeds from China?
00:55:52.000 Yeah.
00:55:53.000 It happened to us.
00:55:54.000 A weird package from China that's got seeds in it.
00:55:57.000 And we're like, what is going on?
00:55:58.000 And then everyone was posting online, what are these weird seeds that I'm receiving?
00:56:02.000 And one of the theories was they were not illegal, but they were aggressive species.
00:56:08.000 And if you plant them, it'll start destroying the surrounding plant life.
00:56:12.000 Likely an act of war.
00:56:12.000 I like it.
00:56:13.000 The idea that someone got some strange pack.
00:56:15.000 Oh, I think I'll plant these.
00:56:17.000 Oh, I know.
00:56:18.000 There's got to be.
00:56:18.000 I mean, I can visualize that person right now.
00:56:20.000 What if they're just flowers?
00:56:22.000 So here's the thing about wine berries they are everywhere out here and they're delicious.
00:56:27.000 Wineberry season.
00:56:28.000 You ever see a wineberry?
00:56:29.000 They look just like raspberries, but they're a little bit more resilient.
00:56:31.000 They look like a little tougher on the outside, but still squishy and delicious and sweet.
00:56:37.000 They kill all the surrounding plants and suck up all the water and destroy them.
00:56:41.000 Most people go, oh, but they're so good.
00:56:43.000 They're so delicious.
00:56:44.000 It's illegal to transport wineberry seeds, wineberry plant, because they destroy everything around them.
00:56:50.000 So think about it.
00:56:51.000 You get mailed some seeds and it says wild Chinese raspberry.
00:56:54.000 And you're like, ooh, that sounds fun.
00:56:56.000 You plant one plant.
00:56:57.000 10 years later, all the trees are dead.
00:57:00.000 The natural fruits are dead.
00:57:01.000 Ecosystem is completely disrupted.
00:57:03.000 Local animals now no longer have access to certain kinds of nuts or whatever they may have been eating.
00:57:08.000 They would have got me with that too if I got it.
00:57:08.000 There you go.
00:57:10.000 I was like, ooh, wild raspberry.
00:57:11.000 Well, I mean, your average person's going to.
00:57:13.000 If they get, you know, seeds, if they're interested in plants, they'll think, what harm can this do?
00:57:18.000 I'll plant them and see, you know, what is it?
00:57:21.000 What is this?
00:57:21.000 I'm curious.
00:57:22.000 And it seems innocuous enough, you know?
00:57:25.000 The opium, this is an extension of the opium wars, basically, since the 1850s when the British went into China from the east and poisoned them with opium.
00:57:33.000 And they did it multiple times, I think, two opium wars, 10 years each.
00:57:37.000 So the Chinese never forgot that.
00:57:38.000 And now they're giving it back to the British Empire through the American.
00:57:42.000 Oh, I mean, that's bulk.
00:57:43.000 That's the opiate border stuff, too.
00:57:45.000 So, the question is exactly the fentanyl coming through Mexico.
00:57:47.000 So, the question, though, is like, I don't want a hot war in China.
00:57:50.000 I don't really want to launch pests on them and destroy them with a chemical war either.
00:57:54.000 I don't want to.
00:57:55.000 If you guys are listening, I don't want to do that to you.
00:57:57.000 So, how do we win this war without destroying them?
00:58:00.000 Do we just have to be better?
00:58:02.000 Is it just you just have to be better?
00:58:03.000 You have to be the best.
00:58:05.000 Everyone else will follow?
00:58:07.000 I'm sorry, go ahead.
00:58:08.000 You go ahead.
00:58:09.000 I was going to say, you're not.
00:58:11.000 Some people just want to watch the world burn.
00:58:14.000 This idea that the poor criminal only committed the crime because he was hurting.
00:58:19.000 No, China wants you dead.
00:58:22.000 They want to destroy the United States.
00:58:24.000 They want global hegemonic power.
00:58:26.000 There's no negotiating with that.
00:58:28.000 The good news is we've actually, the apogee of their power relative to us was actually 2020.
00:58:34.000 And we knew that back since about 2005, that from a population and an economic point of view, the best time for them to strike.
00:58:44.000 Was going to be 2020.
00:58:46.000 And I think they did.
00:58:47.000 I think the rigged election was Chinese hands were behind it.
00:58:50.000 So their population is declining.
00:58:53.000 They're in a real population upside down, wedding cake kind of problem.
00:58:59.000 And also their economy probably reached on a purchasing power parity, reached 75% of ours, and it tipped, and now it's shrinking versus ours.
00:59:08.000 So we actually have all we have to do at this point is, I'd say, kind of rope a dope or keep enough pressure on and not fall.
00:59:16.000 Time will take care of them.
00:59:17.000 Their economic problems are more severe than ours.
00:59:19.000 Their financial leverage is more severe than ours.
00:59:22.000 We just have to not lose.
00:59:23.000 And that means sticking to our principles and keeping ourselves together.
00:59:27.000 And we do not have to engage them in a hot war.
00:59:29.000 Time will take care of them if we can just hold ourselves together.
00:59:34.000 With our economy, do you see an evolution of the economy away from money into power, data, electricity, ability to move a payload?
00:59:42.000 That's how Elon Musk described it.
00:59:45.000 Yeah, I've seen that.
00:59:46.000 He says that.
00:59:47.000 I think that the thing that distinguishes so many jobs is intelligence.
00:59:55.000 Intelligence is now, 200 years ago, before we had chemical power, having a physically strong person made you a better blacksmith than the other guy.
01:00:06.000 After we had chemical power, I harnessed that, industrial power, that stopped mattering so much.
01:00:13.000 Personal intelligence is going to matter less and less because of AI.
01:00:18.000 I think that we need to not be subverted and not forget our principles, and time will take care of China.
01:00:27.000 If we just, but we don't want to get in a hot war.
01:00:29.000 But doing things like taking in the chip manufacturing industry from Taiwan, which required government investment to do things like that, actually are part of that program.
01:00:39.000 Regarding like staying true to our principles, I thought on the drive over here, like, is what's going to happen?
01:00:46.000 Is like, is AI going to learn, like, don't cast your pearls before swine, Christian?
01:00:49.000 You know, like, don't give these idiot humans what they want if they're bad people and it will select amongst us the Christians.
01:00:55.000 And like, and what I mean by that is the virtuous.
01:00:57.000 Like, is it now the time to like extol virtue and just stick to the virtue?
01:01:01.000 So, the AI can train off of it.
01:01:03.000 I worry about the AI clearly has biases built in, woke biases built in.
01:01:09.000 Have you seen these tests where they.
01:01:10.000 The Political Compass AI tests?
01:01:12.000 Yes.
01:01:13.000 They're all left libertarian.
01:01:15.000 Yeah.
01:01:16.000 And anti Christian, anti white, you know.
01:01:18.000 Except for Grok.
01:01:19.000 Yeah, except for Grok.
01:01:20.000 Grok is moderate, libertarian, it's libertarian center.
01:01:24.000 Well, it's truth seeking.
01:01:26.000 Yeah.
01:01:27.000 The Anthropic, that new terms of service where they're like, you can't be cruel to the AI because it's training is like they're forcing you to be kind or at least to not be.
01:01:37.000 And the reason for that is people think it's like they're treating the AI like it's alive.
01:01:42.000 No, they don't want the output of the AI to be as mean as the input.
01:01:49.000 That's why they're saying stop being mean to it because it's training it to be mean to the customers.
01:01:54.000 What I will say is last night I was talking with my brother about how Pokemon is basically cockfighting for kids.
01:02:02.000 And I've loved Pokemon since I was a little kid.
01:02:04.000 I remember when the show first came out, I bought it on Game Boy.
01:02:07.000 As I got older, I was kind of like, it's kind of weird that the story of Pokemon is a 10 year old.
01:02:12.000 He like turns 10, and they're like, well, son, you're 10 years old.
01:02:15.000 Time to start cockfighting.
01:02:17.000 That's Pokemon.
01:02:18.000 And then you like, go off into the world and travel around by yourself and fight animals.
01:02:23.000 And so I told him to use AI to make a version of Pokemon that's just roosters.
01:02:28.000 And he did.
01:02:30.000 And it took, I think, like 10 minutes.
01:02:31.000 And he sent me the app, and it's literally Pokemon red and blue, but there's only roosters in the game.
01:02:37.000 And so I'm just walking around with a bunch of roosters, and a kid comes up and he's like, Hey, you've got roosters?
01:02:42.000 Let's battle.
01:02:43.000 And then you're like, You have a cockfight in the middle of the street.
01:02:45.000 And I'm like, It's a joke about the point of Pokemon.
01:02:48.000 But as I'm sitting there and I'm doing all of this, I loaded up Legend of Zelda, Link to the Past, told Claude, decompile the game and recompile it and give Link new abilities.
01:02:59.000 And it was like, Sure thing, brother.
01:03:00.000 And I was like, You know what?
01:03:01.000 Let's make a sequel.
01:03:02.000 And it was like, Yep, done.
01:03:04.000 And it took like an hour to reconstruct the game.
01:03:06.000 I'm just like, The people don't understand.
01:03:10.000 And I can't convey to them, and they don't care.
01:03:13.000 So, we did it.
01:03:14.000 I did an AI analysis of all of our shows.
01:03:17.000 AI performs poorly.
01:03:18.000 No one cares.
01:03:19.000 And I'm sitting here being like, Adobe just got cloned.
01:03:24.000 The entire Adobe suite is now for free.
01:03:27.000 So, there's Artcraft, there's Filmcraft.
01:03:30.000 Like, it's called, I forgot what the whole suite is called, Evercraft or something.
01:03:35.000 But I'm like, there's an open source clone of Adobe Premiere for free.
01:03:39.000 The Adobe Corporation is going to evaporate overnight.
01:03:42.000 They have absolutely no means of surviving right now, except for the fact that major corporations that are spending stupid amounts of money for their subscriptions don't know it's free now.
01:03:52.000 Now, don't get me wrong, Adobe is iterating and updating and improving, but it won't matter.
01:03:58.000 If you can get a free version that's half as good, that speaks light years.
01:04:03.000 What is happening over the past few months and what we're watching, we are at the curve of AI, and we're here, and it's just going straight up.
01:04:11.000 I don't know how we have an economy in six months because I'm going to give a shout out to my friend, George Alexopoulos.
01:04:17.000 And I say this with love, but dude is going off about how AI is fake and it's worthless and it's bad.
01:04:25.000 I'm going to say it like it is, George.
01:04:26.000 I'm not saying this to be mean to you because you're a good dude and you make great art.
01:04:31.000 You lose.
01:04:33.000 Society has determined what you do is no longer valuable.
01:04:35.000 For those that don't know, George is one of the best meme comic book and just generally comic book artists.
01:04:42.000 He makes incredible and hilarious art so much.
01:04:44.000 We love it so much.
01:04:45.000 We bought prints of it and we put it up on our studio and we still have them around.
01:04:48.000 We got to bring them here.
01:04:50.000 I said in a post the other day graphic design is over, video editing is over.
01:04:55.000 The Adobe Suite programming, it's all over.
01:04:57.000 It's all going to be one program that is exponentially improving itself.
01:05:01.000 I went into Claude.
01:05:03.000 I filmed myself raw, straight up to a camera with no graphics, dropped the file in and said, make a video.
01:05:10.000 It added all the graphics, motion graphics.
01:05:13.000 It transcribed it, just literally edited the whole thing, cut out dead air, cut out errors, added images and references.
01:05:22.000 And it took, you know, I did a short in five minutes.
01:05:25.000 I loaded it and said, make a one minute long video.
01:05:27.000 Five minutes, it was done.
01:05:27.000 Here you go.
01:05:28.000 And I'm like, why would I hire a video producer at this point?
01:05:31.000 If Claude can just do it instantly, no questions asked.
01:05:36.000 George is saying, he said, you know, wiping my ass is worth 50,000 times more than any individual piece of AI slot a person can produce.
01:05:46.000 It's just not reality.
01:05:47.000 I agree.
01:05:48.000 So, what we're seeing right now, this is in the data graphic design backfill ended.
01:05:53.000 So, this is graphic designers retiring or leaving the industry.
01:05:57.000 Companies are not rehiring.
01:06:00.000 Contracting in graphic design, particularly, ended a long time ago.
01:06:04.000 Somebody would say, I need a flyer for my business.
01:06:07.000 And they would say, Hey, we'll give you a hundred bucks to make a flyer for my company.
01:06:11.000 Now I got a $20 ChatGPT subscription.
01:06:13.000 It's good enough.
01:06:13.000 I just click go.
01:06:14.000 It's not as good as a graphic designer would have done, but it's good enough and it costs me nothing.
01:06:19.000 We are going to see in the next six months, I can't even begin to describe how insane it is from running a business.
01:06:28.000 Let me say it like this.
01:06:31.000 Two years ago, we're going, we need to find video producers and editors.
01:06:34.000 This is so hard.
01:06:35.000 Today, we're saying, why would we hire them?
01:06:37.000 Claude does it like that faster, 24 hours, no days off.
01:06:42.000 So now, all of a sudden, we were trying to find people to fill roles.
01:06:47.000 We just kind of forgot.
01:06:48.000 We just kind of forgot we wanted to hire for this.
01:06:50.000 Because now, if I want to make my short films, I go on Seed Dance and click a few buttons, and in 20 minutes, I've got my two minute long little mini film.
01:06:57.000 This is, I really believe we are in the apocalypse right now.
01:07:01.000 Revelation.
01:07:02.000 Yeah, well, the Greek definition of apocalypse is to remove apocalypse.
01:07:08.000 I mean, the code being revealed is the apocalypse.
01:07:11.000 Adobe's first.
01:07:12.000 Next will be Microsoft.
01:07:13.000 Like, Microsoft executives come out and say, we got to slow down AI because their code's about to get open source.
01:07:18.000 Everybody's about to get open source.
01:07:19.000 I mean, maybe literally everybody.
01:07:22.000 So, this is why I'm concerned about what the economy actually means.
01:07:26.000 Economia means like to take care of the home.
01:07:29.000 So, we don't need money to have an economy, and we just need data to be moved and Information and matter to be moved to the right place at the right time.
01:07:38.000 That's what Musk has been saying.
01:07:39.000 Adobe is a $95 billion corporation that has no product.
01:07:45.000 I would.
01:07:45.000 I'm going to say that one more time.
01:07:47.000 Adobe is a $95 billion corporation with no product.
01:07:51.000 The entire Adobe suite is free online right now, decompiled by AI, clean room reconstruction.
01:07:59.000 What will they do?
01:08:00.000 They're going to have to go to the government and say, Do you understand what's going to happen if we go tits up overnight?
01:08:06.000 The US economy losing this one corporation is a nuclear bomb going off.
01:08:10.000 They're going to have to go to the government and say, You've got to ban this.
01:08:13.000 You've got to stop people from using these free versions.
01:08:15.000 But Ian, you made a great point.
01:08:17.000 Why do all the big tech guys all of a sudden say, We got to slow this down?
01:08:20.000 Every single Microsoft program is about to be free online.
01:08:24.000 Understand what it means for all of these ultra wealthy.
01:08:27.000 Bill Gates, AI could kill a billion people.
01:08:30.000 Yes, before it does that, people are going to load every single Microsoft program, decompile it, clean room reconstruction, and now every operating system, every program is free.
01:08:42.000 The problem with going to the government and asking them to slow down is yo, if the US stops, the Chinese will do it anyway.
01:08:47.000 The apocalypse is on us now.
01:08:49.000 There's no changing it, it's being revealed in front of our faces.
01:08:53.000 I'm, and we actually have a chance to fix it and to make it to guide it into the next phase of how do you say you know currency?
01:09:02.000 It the word means electricity.
01:09:03.000 There's a currency running through an electrical wire.
01:09:06.000 There's a currency when you hold a dollar in it.
01:09:08.000 It's the same word.
01:09:09.000 There's a reason for that.
01:09:10.000 When you can just go to an AI agent and say, this is the result I want right, you don't.
01:09:15.000 You don't even.
01:09:16.000 You don't have, you don't even you don't have to know how to code or know anything about any of the programs that we're even talking about, You're just going to say to the agent, I want to do this.
01:09:26.000 When you do this and do this and do that, and it just does it for you.
01:09:29.000 I go into ChatGPT.
01:09:30.000 I got the high program right now.
01:09:31.000 I'm paying $500 a month.
01:09:32.000 Use Astra Ultra.
01:09:33.000 I go so hard.
01:09:35.000 I design, design, design all day.
01:09:37.000 I'll go through 80% of my weekly allowance in like 10 hours, 15 hours.
01:09:41.000 They'll refill me to full because we are America, because we have the electrical input, the power to generate this mass output.
01:09:50.000 We don't have an outside.
01:09:52.000 It's basically.
01:09:52.000 We don't have electricity.
01:09:53.000 Sam Albin saying, you know what?
01:09:55.000 I'm going to reward you because we're America and I can.
01:09:55.000 We don't have electricity.
01:09:57.000 We don't have electricity.
01:09:58.000 This is why we have to dominate the world.
01:09:59.000 We don't have electricity.
01:10:00.000 What?
01:10:00.000 We don't make enough electricity.
01:10:02.000 We literally are doing it to power the data centers right now, and we could make more.
01:10:06.000 But if we were to Ethiopia, we wouldn't have access to the ChatGPT.
01:10:09.000 They wouldn't be refilling my account.
01:10:11.000 They're able to because the power, and I mean electrical power, literally.
01:10:15.000 We're so far behind what we need to be for electrical production compared to China to satisfy the demands that.
01:10:24.000 I mean, why do you think Musk is looking to put GPUs in space?
01:10:28.000 Because he has unlimited access to solar.
01:10:30.000 Yeah, he has unlimited access.
01:10:32.000 We do not produce nearly enough power.
01:10:34.000 We need more power.
01:10:35.000 Yeah, I agree with you.
01:10:36.000 We will thrive with more power, but we are also probably the most powerful country on the planet.
01:10:41.000 Well, you're not talking about electrical production because China actually produces more energy than we do now.
01:10:46.000 Yeah, it's a big power as a general term because explosive force, you know, economic power.
01:10:51.000 I want to just say something to you guys Adobe generates roughly 96 to 97% of its revenue from subscriptions.
01:10:58.000 In fiscal 2025, total revenue was $23.77 billion.
01:11:02.000 Digital media, Creative Cloud products such as Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere Pro, After Effects, and related tools, plus Document Cloud, was the largest piece at $17.65 billion.
01:11:12.000 Right now, every single piece of software in the Adobe Suite was cloned, cleanroom, rebuilt with new code.
01:11:18.000 Free.
01:11:19.000 It's free.
01:11:20.000 Every single corporation, every single dollar into that $17 billion could evaporate overnight.
01:11:30.000 This is why I was saying.
01:11:32.000 I got a new computer for this as we're building out this new studio.
01:11:35.000 Ian told me to get this AI computer, super high end and really, really great.
01:11:40.000 And I was like, I need to be able to edit videos.
01:11:42.000 So, I did a search and I was like, the issue is, I really hate logging into Adobe because it only lets you have.
01:11:47.000 So, I got a bunch of computers for me.
01:11:49.000 Like, if I'm working in West Virginia or Maryland or whatever, I hate having to log out and log back in all the time.
01:11:55.000 So, we have our subscription for Adobe.
01:11:56.000 And I was like, I just need a simple program right now for quick little edits.
01:12:00.000 Like, if I need to trim a second out of a video, I don't need to make a movie.
01:12:03.000 I don't need to log in Adobe.
01:12:05.000 Well, I found a program called Filmcraft and I took a look at it.
01:12:09.000 And it said that it was a great video editor.
01:12:12.000 And I opened it up and I was like, this is identical to Premiere.
01:12:16.000 And I saw these videos online where people were explaining that somebody decompiled the entire Adobe suite and told AI to rebuild it from scratch with new code, and it did.
01:12:28.000 And now a $17 billion revenue program suite is free.
01:12:34.000 What will Adobe do?
01:12:37.000 This is going to rapidly expand like a virus.
01:12:40.000 There's so many companies in the same situation.
01:12:42.000 Yeah.
01:12:43.000 Oh, yeah.
01:12:43.000 And software as a service.
01:12:45.000 It used to be if Salesforce is over.
01:12:47.000 Oh, yeah.
01:12:48.000 Salesforce.
01:12:49.000 It's Insane.
01:12:50.000 This is a quarter or more.
01:12:52.000 What percent of the economy is going to be all this software?
01:12:52.000 How much?
01:12:55.000 Next year, all of these people will have no income.
01:13:03.000 I want to stress this.
01:13:04.000 To a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
01:13:06.000 I've worked in media my whole life, editing skateboard videos with my friends as a kid, making websites, flash animation, and video games, to then getting a job working in my 20s with various media outlets producing things.
01:13:19.000 And I have seen software every step of the way, the importance of it.
01:13:24.000 So, when I wake up one day and I'm told, hey, you know, every corporation has to pay this massive subscription fee for all these programs, that doesn't exist anymore.
01:13:30.000 It's all free now.
01:13:33.000 It was like literally watching a nuclear bomb detonate over a major city.
01:13:37.000 That's why people make the argument that there's only going to be like one or two companies.
01:13:37.000 I was like.
01:13:42.000 Yep.
01:13:45.000 Because you'll have your market for which AI you want to use.
01:13:48.000 But software as a service and just generally software is going to go away.
01:13:52.000 That's the reason I was saying that once you have an AI in your phone that's functional, Apps are going to go away.
01:13:59.000 Why are you going to do that?
01:13:59.000 You're going to tell your AI, hey, I need to do this.
01:14:02.000 And the AI will just contact whoever it is that you're, whatever service you're trying to buy.
01:14:06.000 I need to get, you know, I need to buy tickets.
01:14:10.000 They'll go directly to Delta.
01:14:11.000 I need to buy, I need to plan a trip.
01:14:14.000 It'll plan the whole trip.
01:14:14.000 It'll get you the room that you need.
01:14:17.000 It'll get you a car.
01:14:18.000 All of this stuff will be done not through apps, but the AI itself will do all, make all the connections.
01:14:24.000 Every company needs to do is build a CLI.
01:14:26.000 It's a command line input.
01:14:27.000 You need to make a CLI for your company so that Claude can download and Install your CLI so, like Delta, I should be able to download Delta's CLI so that Claude can talk to Delta in the background on the CLI.
01:14:40.000 So, I don't need to go to Delta's website.
01:14:41.000 I mean, everybody with the CLI will have that's their input for all the input.
01:14:45.000 You're adding an extra step because Delta's already got a website and Claude can go to the website and use it.
01:14:50.000 No, but that requires desktop control and all these inputs.
01:14:52.000 The CLI is the most basic, easy way to connect the internet in the background.
01:14:56.000 You want to know what I've heard from everybody?
01:14:58.000 Is when I say things like, why would you?
01:15:01.000 So, it's called the Artcraft Suite.
01:15:03.000 Where someone cloned Adobe for free.
01:15:06.000 And I've heard from other people, well, the issue is that we've got a lot of our project files are already in Adobe, so we don't want to switch.
01:15:14.000 And I'm like, if you're talking about spending, you know, what, 10 plus thousand a year or whatever you do on the suite, depending on the size of your firm, even more if it's bigger and you've got hundreds of employees, I'm telling you right now, sooner or later, some old person, some accounting guy is going to come in and they're going to be like, I don't care.
01:15:32.000 If it's going to take you 48 hours of hard labor to convert, And rebuild these files, you're doing it.
01:15:39.000 Because once we do, we drop that expense forever.
01:15:42.000 But hold on, that's just Adobe.
01:15:43.000 I work in media, I'm looking at Adobe.
01:15:45.000 You mentioned Microsoft.
01:15:49.000 How much longer until someone decompiles Windows and creates Windows free?
01:15:54.000 Well, I know they already did it.
01:15:55.000 I don't know.
01:15:56.000 Well, there's Linux, which is.
01:15:59.000 But, you know, and it's funny because Apple's basically inverse, took Unix and then slapped a brand on it and sold it for money.
01:16:06.000 But Linux, I like Ubuntu, I like Linux and all that, but it is unique and it is harder to use.
01:16:12.000 Someone's going to decompile and rebuild from scratch Windows and then make an operating system for free.
01:16:17.000 And it'll be able to run all the same programs if it was Windows.
01:16:20.000 I think you actually can open like PSDs in the craft.
01:16:24.000 You can open PSDs?
01:16:26.000 If you want a fact, I've heard this.
01:16:27.000 I looked it up and it said it will not open them.
01:16:29.000 Oh, really?
01:16:30.000 I've never tried.
01:16:30.000 I watched a video.
01:16:31.000 It said it could, but yeah, I don't know.
01:16:33.000 You've got mathematicians are crying because their whole artistic, the hero age of mathematics where you had like a math that you could revere, that's gone.
01:16:43.000 Industrializing like chemistry now.
01:16:44.000 So they're crying because Moderna also is freaking out because all their patents are about to get lit up and opened.
01:16:50.000 So I was talking to this physicist, this is a physicist like 20 years ago, and we were talking about why science is so hard to change, like Galileo, right?
01:17:01.000 And he was like, here's the thing they keep slapping new dimensions on their attempt at a unified theory, string theory, M theory, because they can't explain some things.
01:17:11.000 So imagine you've spent 30 years of your life working on a math problem only to find out it was wasted because the math problem was wrong.
01:17:18.000 You are going to be particularly angry at anybody who dares tell you that 30 years of your life was wasted.
01:17:23.000 Yeah, dude, I picked up the Toroid universe.
01:17:26.000 The link will be there.
01:17:28.000 I'll finish.
01:17:29.000 You go first.
01:17:30.000 The point I was trying to make we had an article where it said that mathematicians started crying because there was, for example, a guy who was working on a math problem for five years, and then OpenAI goes, Oh, we solved that in a week.
01:17:44.000 And then he's like, But everything, my entire life, everything I was doing, every day I woke up, Gone in an instant.
01:17:51.000 I had a buddy, and maybe let me ask you this question, Patrick.
01:17:54.000 What age did you become, as you describe, wealthy?
01:18:00.000 I was about 30 when I made a million dollars, million and a half dollars.
01:18:03.000 I had a buddy who said that he became a millionaire at 16 in tech.
01:18:08.000 And he said that one thing that he experienced was a depression almost right away.
01:18:13.000 And that most of the people he knew who got wealthy really quickly experienced an existential crisis because.
01:18:22.000 They solved a problem, and when the problem was solved, they did not have a problem to solve anymore.
01:18:26.000 And they were sitting there and they were like, I don't care about the money.
01:18:28.000 Like, every day I woke up and I was working on this thing, and then one day we solved it, and then I didn't know what to do with myself.
01:18:34.000 Getting a PhD is like that.
01:18:35.000 People think their life's going to be a lot better afterwards, and it feels exactly the same, and it's quite a crash.
01:18:42.000 You reached that point.
01:18:43.000 There's a musician.
01:18:44.000 I had a friend of mine, and actually, Phil might be able to speak to this, but I had a friend in Seattle who was friends with a famous musician, and they said that after his record exploded and he became like platinum and made it.
01:18:55.000 Stupid amount of money, he got super depressed.
01:18:57.000 And what happened was he was working really, really hard every day.
01:19:00.000 He'd go to work, like recording and making music.
01:19:03.000 Now he's got, you know, $30 million in the bank.
01:19:06.000 They're kind of in a holding pattern on the next few albums.
01:19:09.000 And so he's just, they were like, he calls me up and he's like, what are you doing?
01:19:13.000 And I'm like, I'm at work.
01:19:15.000 And he's like, do you want to hang out?
01:19:16.000 It's like, I can't.
01:19:17.000 I'm at work.
01:19:18.000 And they go, all right.
01:19:19.000 So they end up sitting around all day, walking around, having an existential crisis, not knowing what to do.
01:19:23.000 Well, it's that.
01:19:24.000 And it's the adrenaline dump.
01:19:25.000 I mean, boxers, this is well demonstrated in boxing, is the, First few days after a fight, like you need to keep an eye on the boxer because it's called the adrenaline dump.
01:19:34.000 When you're building up to this event, you know, for months, in many cases, the event culminates, adrenaline's at all time highs.
01:19:41.000 Your hormones are completely out of whack after the fight.
01:19:43.000 So they, like a lot of boxers, they have to have guys on them at all times to make sure they don't do something crazy because they're going to be so depressed because of that.
01:19:49.000 Well, I've said it a million times adrenaline.
01:19:51.000 Just like Lindsey Clancy was with postpartum depression.
01:19:53.000 I think we're like seeing the end of what I would, I guess, call the research industrial complex where people are getting paid to research stuff.
01:20:01.000 Like you don't need, dude, figure out what you were looking to figure out and then start trying to figure something else out.
01:20:06.000 It's happening so fast now.
01:20:07.000 It doesn't make sense to pay people to sit around and try and figure stuff out anymore.
01:20:10.000 Ian?
01:20:11.000 Remember when I jokingly said a month after GTA 6 comes out, we'll have GTA 7?
01:20:11.000 I'm paying chances.
01:20:16.000 I was wrong.
01:20:17.000 The day GTA 6 comes out, we will have GTA 7.
01:20:21.000 It's already, so to be fair, decompiling a game of that size probably will take about 48 hours of compute for an average person.
01:20:28.000 Like a person who has high end Claude and Astronaut stuff, loading it up and decompiling it.
01:20:34.000 If they split the game into chunks and then have multiple agents decompile it, it can be done in a few hours probably.
01:20:41.000 The estimates I've seen, though, for a game like GTA, is like, yeah, it's going to take maybe 48 hours of total work time.
01:20:48.000 Once it's decompiled, it can be immediately reconstructed.
01:20:51.000 And so you can have GTA 7 reasonably within a week.
01:20:54.000 But with like GTA and other big games like 2K, Madden, et cetera, the big component of it's the multiplayer.
01:21:00.000 So you'd need to rebuild the servers as well.
01:21:01.000 So people.
01:21:02.000 Well, no, no, but I'm not talking about human interaction.
01:21:05.000 No, but if GTA put Rockstar out of business, you'd need to also recreate.
01:21:08.000 I'm not talking about putting them out of business.
01:21:09.000 I'm saying it took them 15 years to make GTA 6.
01:21:12.000 It'll take them a week to make GTA 7.
01:21:14.000 So.
01:21:16.000 People, I'll put it like this.
01:21:23.000 I go to somebody I know, outside of this room, obviously, people who are not in politics, and I say, the economy is going to implode in six to 10 months.
01:21:32.000 And they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:21:34.000 And I'm just sitting here being like, the stuff that we've started doing with AI as laymen is having me panic.
01:21:45.000 I had the AI, like I mentioned this earlier, I recorded myself talking for 12 minutes.
01:21:50.000 Uploaded to Claude and said, I got to leave.
01:21:52.000 Make a video for me.
01:21:53.000 I need it for Saturday.
01:21:53.000 When I came back, it finished all the visuals and the components.
01:21:56.000 And I was like, that would have taken me two hours.
01:21:59.000 So now I got a video going up on Saturday where it put all the visuals and all for a little mini doc I made.
01:22:04.000 Because I was like, I want to put videos on the weekends, but I'm busy.
01:22:07.000 I got family.
01:22:08.000 Done.
01:22:09.000 Don't need to hire anybody anymore.
01:22:10.000 Soon you won't even need you.
01:22:11.000 You'll just be able to tell it.
01:22:13.000 This is what's pissing me off.
01:22:14.000 It can't clone my voice.
01:22:16.000 I keep, I have been trying to clone my voice.
01:22:19.000 Joe Rogan, no problem.
01:22:21.000 Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, easy.
01:22:23.000 You got to train it.
01:22:24.000 It takes like two hours.
01:22:24.000 It can't do it.
01:22:25.000 You got to train it.
01:22:26.000 You'll have to.
01:22:27.000 You can stop, please.
01:22:27.000 What you do is you.
01:22:28.000 What?
01:22:29.000 I'm stopping you because I am offended by what you are saying.
01:22:29.000 I'm doing it literally.
01:22:32.000 You can train it.
01:22:33.000 To imply that I have not tried every possible thing to clone my voice.
01:22:37.000 Yeah, but have you run like a training bot program on the guy in your computer and then sat there for 140 lines of you saying a word sentence after sentence after sentence and then done it again and again and again because you need like five different training mechanisms and it's using all your YouTube videos.
01:22:50.000 What do you put to rotate?
01:22:53.000 I have 10 years.
01:22:54.000 Of six hours a day of me talking.
01:22:57.000 But that's what's messing it up.
01:22:58.000 It's too much information.
01:23:00.000 Ian, I'm going to.
01:23:01.000 So, okay, here's what you attribute this to, Tim.
01:23:04.000 I believe you.
01:23:04.000 What do you attribute it to that you can't, you're cloned?
01:23:07.000 I have a few hypotheses.
01:23:12.000 When I talk, I do things intentionally, like I say, we got Du Bois here.
01:23:15.000 I'll throw in a random accent.
01:23:17.000 So, to naturally grab how Tim Poole does a show requires a random Trump sometimes, things it cannot do.
01:23:25.000 It can't just be me.
01:23:27.000 But I do think.
01:23:30.000 I honestly don't know why it cannot get my enunciation.
01:23:36.000 It can sort of grab the pitch, but it makes this thing that talks like this and it's very rigid.
01:23:41.000 And Ian, what I need to say to you, I have done so many times.
01:23:48.000 I've tried 30 seconds, clean.
01:23:50.000 The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.
01:23:53.000 Unique New York.
01:23:54.000 How now, brown cow? 0.93
01:23:56.000 Fail.
01:23:57.000 I've loaded in a two hour of me just talking saying, Today, here's the news.
01:24:01.000 I have intentionally searched for videos where I was talking low because my throat was hurting.
01:24:07.000 So I was doing the show just like this.
01:24:09.000 And I talked this way every time, dozens of attempts.
01:24:12.000 It fails every single time.
01:24:14.000 Think about all the training OpenAI has done on the internet, all the voices.
01:24:18.000 Like we've done a drop of their ocean.
01:24:21.000 I understand, Ian.
01:24:21.000 My point is I can take 30 seconds of Joe Rogan and it gets Joe Rogan.
01:24:25.000 I can take 30 seconds of Jordan Peterson and it's Jordan Peterson.
01:24:29.000 I can take 30 seconds of Trump and it's Trump.
01:24:31.000 And every time I've attempted to do it, it does not.
01:24:33.000 Are you working on a local model or are you working on like 11 labs or something?
01:24:38.000 11 labs.
01:24:39.000 I'm talking about local model training.
01:24:40.000 If you own your own model that's on your home computer and you're just training it in a vacuum, you can teach it specific things.
01:24:47.000 We are not at the point where it can do the character replication of Tim Pool.
01:24:53.000 Yeah, it takes a lot of training, I think.
01:24:53.000 Yet.
01:24:56.000 I don't know.
01:24:56.000 I'm still training my mom.
01:24:58.000 Imagine if it really could capture the essence of how I tell stories.
01:25:02.000 And then here's another example, actually.
01:25:04.000 So I went to.
01:25:07.000 I, a year ago, tried having.
01:25:11.000 I had 11 Labs take a script for a ghost story, and then it cannot tell a ghost story.
01:25:18.000 You cannot get VO to do ghost stories right now because it can't voice act.
01:25:24.000 It can do really dumb things like commercials, and it's got various types of cadences and things like that.
01:25:31.000 So you can get.
01:25:32.000 So, what I said, I want an old man to tell the story about the haunted house.
01:25:36.000 And it really just could not tell a story.
01:25:39.000 So, what I did was, I recorded myself and then said, skin my voice with this old man.
01:25:45.000 That worked because I voice acted it.
01:25:48.000 So, I went and clawed and I said, here's a script written, no recordings.
01:25:52.000 And I said, make it.
01:25:53.000 It sucked miserably bad because it can't voice act.
01:25:58.000 So, if you want to do a commercial as Joe Rogan, something short, you can get it.
01:26:02.000 If you want to get a two hour Joe Rogan podcast, you're going to miss Joe Rogan's emotion.
01:26:08.000 It can't get that right now.
01:26:09.000 But it would be, and it's terrifying when, and maybe in a few months, we get to the point where voice replication can grab emotion at the right points.
01:26:18.000 Like, imagine if Eleven Labs knew that when it was like, hey, in the style of Tim Pool, and it's me going, so Donald Trump came out today and he had a crazy thing to add on the latest story about Katie Sagra saying, you can't come out of my girl.
01:26:32.000 And like, it knows just to start doing a Tim Pool Trump impersonation.
01:26:36.000 When we get there, it's over because what's going to happen is not necessarily me, but.
01:26:41.000 Let me tell you this.
01:26:42.000 There's a high profile, right leaning personality who told me two years ago they had 3D scanned their body and done voice training to create an AI version of themselves.
01:26:52.000 And I wouldn't be surprised if the videos they put out of them talking actually are AI at this point.
01:26:57.000 Because they said that was their intention.
01:26:59.000 I think that's actually a reasonable way to make money in the future in this economy, the shifting economy is sell your persona via AI to people that want to download it.
01:27:07.000 No, you make a fake one.
01:27:08.000 What do you mean?
01:27:09.000 You can make a.
01:27:10.000 So if you load up all of the various podcasters into the AI and say, Why is this person watched?
01:27:16.000 The computer, the AI is going to be like, oh, look at these things that he does. 0.99
01:27:19.000 Okay, combine them and give me a big tittied young woman.
01:27:23.000 Done. 1.00
01:27:23.000 Oh, you think you can? 1.00
01:27:24.000 The Rogan's own.
01:27:24.000 Augment your own.
01:27:25.000 Like, I mean, that might work for like the 500,000 people that have a Wikipedia page, but like the average person that doesn't have an online persona, that doesn't have something they're selling or a personality that they're selling, does them no good.
01:27:40.000 So, one of the theories that I've talked about with people in media is that we're going to enter an age of no, there will be no more opportunity for a user, a random person to become famous.
01:27:53.000 So, the idea is back when the radio waves start getting utilized.
01:27:58.000 Everybody's just doing whatever they want.
01:28:00.000 So that means if you got the means, you can set up a broadcast tower and tell all your friends, hey, I got a tower.
01:28:06.000 If you get this radio, I can sell you one.
01:28:08.000 You can hear me from across the way.
01:28:10.000 So one by one, people start making radio stations.
01:28:12.000 Eventually the government intervenes and says, we got too much going on.
01:28:15.000 You got to, we got to allocate the public airways by auction, by bid.
01:28:21.000 That means now a regular person can't just do radio.
01:28:24.000 It's pirate, it's illegal.
01:28:26.000 It's not so much going to be illegal, but what's going to happen is, You know, I've got a collective 13 or 14 million followers across all platforms, which means if I put out a video, I can make a brand new channel right now.
01:28:39.000 Here's a good example The Tim Pool Show is 100,000 subs.
01:28:43.000 However, we cross post all the shows to 6.5 million subs.
01:28:48.000 So I do a brand new podcast and we're hitting on average 600,000 views per episode just because we're placed algorithmically.
01:28:56.000 People know my name much, much smaller than where, say, Bill O'Reilly, Bill Maher, or whoever, you know, Joe Rogan.
01:29:03.000 Have been.
01:29:04.000 But if every single person on the planet can produce the same content, what advantage does anyone have to get in and make a prominent show?
01:29:14.000 They don't, because I can do the same as them.
01:29:16.000 How will a regular person compete with Tim Pool having all these followers?
01:29:21.000 So, with our algorithmic access where it is, you're not going to be able to break in anymore.
01:29:26.000 And one theory, hypothesis, is that the future is going to be the ladder has been pulled up.
01:29:32.000 Technology has granted you the ability to make a show, but it won't matter because nobody wants to watch a new face.
01:29:38.000 You can't call them.
01:29:38.000 Unless their genetics are superior, I have a feeling that the AI is going to start selecting algorithmically the people with the best genetics to promote.
01:29:48.000 I don't know what that means.
01:29:50.000 The new show will be the guy that's just like a genetic fucking stunner.
01:29:54.000 Or the girl. 0.99
01:29:54.000 Or the girl. 0.99
01:29:55.000 What? 0.99
01:29:56.000 Just pretty people. 0.93
01:29:57.000 But why would you.
01:29:57.000 Just genetically talent, healthy, smart, advanced?
01:30:00.000 Because you mimic each other, you know?
01:30:02.000 So you want to watch what's better.
01:30:03.000 The reason why I am arguing that's not the case is that if any person anywhere can produce 100 videos per day, So, can I?
01:30:12.000 And if I'm already placed in the algorithm, it doesn't matter who you are, what you do, you can't break.
01:30:17.000 There's a million people producing a million videos per day.
01:30:21.000 I post a video, YouTube shares it with millions of people.
01:30:24.000 You post a video, they share it with no one.
01:30:26.000 And you're competing with a million other people.
01:30:29.000 That's why the hypothesis you will not be able to break through, even if you're an AI generated.
01:30:34.000 Is that a bad thing or a good thing?
01:30:36.000 I don't know.
01:30:38.000 Maybe humans go about returning to social relationships without.
01:30:43.000 Trying to be famous without trying to be newscast or pod streaming from a crosswalk in Tokyo and right, OnlyFans is gone.
01:30:53.000 I'm so happy for OnlyFans to be over.
01:30:55.000 Is it going to be so?
01:30:57.000 Here's the thing: placement who's going to be better at selling porn to guys, a team of men running a business who are AI generating women or a single woman? 1.00
01:31:08.000 This is why already the top female, uh, top OnlyFans have managers and have staff that send messages. 0.95
01:31:16.000 If you no longer need the female's body, you can just AI generate whatever you want, then the women are not going to be able to run these OnlyFans. 1.00
01:31:22.000 You might get a business woman doing it. 1.00
01:31:24.000 I'm just saying the actual OnlyFans model being famous, it'll be AI.
01:31:24.000 Don't get me wrong.
01:31:30.000 Fake people.
01:31:33.000 I want to pull up this video and go back to politics.
01:31:35.000 This video is very, very.
01:31:37.000 I can't make any bigger than this, unfortunately, but we're going to play it and we're going to talk about boomers versus zoomers and why I think boomers are in trouble.
01:31:49.000 Hey, I saw the sign.
01:31:50.000 I would like to apply.
01:31:52.000 Welcome.
01:31:53.000 As starter, you will receive a car and a three bedroom house in the suburbs.
01:31:57.000 Sorry, but we couldn't make it a four bedroom.
01:31:59.000 I hope you're okay with that.
01:32:00.000 I'll manage.
01:32:04.000 So, I saw you moved into the neighborhood.
01:32:06.000 I'd like you to marry my daughter Anne.
01:32:08.000 She will cook and clean and raise a happy family with you.
01:32:12.000 Sure.
01:32:22.000 So, I see that you did two masters and two internships, but we are actually looking for someone with four masters and ten years of experience.
01:32:33.000 Maybe if you do a little dance for us, we can give you a tryout?
01:32:37.000 What?
01:32:38.000 So, what kind of work do you do?
01:32:41.000 Oh, I do OnlyFans.
01:32:44.000 You're not one of those men who can't handle a female entrepreneur like that now, are you? 0.87
01:32:49.000 Same with the men who care about body counts.
01:32:51.000 Such losers. 0.84
01:33:02.000 Sorry, we're kicking you out.
01:33:05.000 But who will come in my place?
01:33:07.000 Oh, some refugees.
01:33:15.000 Good luck.
01:33:21.000 Hey, get up, kid.
01:33:22.000 You need to pay my Social Security.
01:33:28.000 Yo, I've never seen more effective anti boomer propaganda than that last bit where they say, get up and pay my social security because we saw the polling.
01:33:37.000 85% of boomers think Gen Z should be taxed more to pay their bills.
01:33:41.000 Yo, if I was a Zoomer, I would be, I'd probably be.
01:33:48.000 Let me say it like this I don't like communists, I don't like socialists, but you better damn well believe if I was like 24, I would be the most famous communist in the country and I would have millions of followers and we would overthrow the political machine.
01:34:01.000 To enact communism only for the purpose of burning it all down because of that.
01:34:05.000 Yeah, that's the majority of people that are communists.
01:34:09.000 They have the ulterior motive of destroying the United States.
01:34:13.000 They're revolutionary.
01:34:14.000 They think the system that we live in is terrible and unfair and unjust.
01:34:19.000 And to be honest with you, there are unfair things in the system that we live in.
01:34:24.000 And so, what impulse do they have to buy in?
01:34:29.000 They don't own property, they don't have prospects for, you know, Improving their life, and they've got a ton of propaganda telling them that things are not going to get better and blaming it on both boomers and the rich.
01:34:43.000 So they have no reason to think, oh, I can make my life better.
01:34:47.000 Like just the idea that boomers, whether they succeeded or not, had the opportunity and are now all saying, you should pay more in taxes for me.
01:34:58.000 I, bro.
01:35:01.000 If I was a Zoomer, man, I'd be Antifa.
01:35:04.000 Tate.
01:35:05.000 There's a common denominator to a lot of these problems like that, which is that I'm at the end of the cusp of Boomer and whatever came after Boomer, and that we basically lived above our means.
01:35:19.000 And we initially were writing checks on each other's bank accounts.
01:35:26.000 We found ways you could work from the 1930s forward to organize political groups, pressure groups, and write checks on other people's bank accounts.
01:35:34.000 About 1980, That had become impossible.
01:35:37.000 Everyone had gotten organized up, old people, different kinds of people.
01:35:40.000 We found a group that we could write checks on that bank account and no one could organize to stop us.
01:35:46.000 It was the group of future human beings.
01:35:49.000 And one way or another, whether you're talking about the environment or social security or a host of problems, we wrote checks on your bank accounts and then you guys came along.
01:35:58.000 Sorry about that, but I was one of the ones fighting it.
01:36:01.000 The only people fighting it were the Milton Friedman guys, the libertarians saying we should stop writing checks on the bank accounts of the future and keep government small.
01:36:09.000 But the more government got into that business, the common denominator of these problems is that the boomer generation wrote a bunch of checks on your bank accounts.
01:36:17.000 By that, do you mean that they printed money?
01:36:20.000 That or the social security system is itself like a life insurance company that's not being run or a pension company not being run on actually sound principles.
01:36:30.000 I would abolish it day one if I was emperor.
01:36:35.000 There's ways through this, and it does require you got to handle the transition so you don't cause huge human suffering.
01:36:42.000 Abolition.
01:36:44.000 And the reason why is I've heard people say things like, well, what if we say boomers are the last generation to get it?
01:36:48.000 I'm like, yeah, you're saying Gen Z has to pay more and then get nothing.
01:36:51.000 We can't do that.
01:36:52.000 And I'll be damned if I'm part of a society or a country that says we're going to sacrifice the young for the benefit of the old.
01:36:58.000 So the problem is right now, millennials are buying their first homes at 40.
01:37:03.000 Already a problem that our economy is to the benefit of the elderly.
01:37:07.000 But part of that is, you know, there was a Federal Reserve, I think St. Louis, came out a few months ago with a study.
01:37:13.000 The illegal immigrant population in America is adding 30% to the cost of buying a home, 20% to the cost of rent, or maybe have that backwards.
01:37:22.000 So that's part of the problem.
01:37:25.000 And Trump even said before he wanted to keep prices up because boomers are the strongest voting bloc and they own, on average, boomers 75% of boomers own a home and many own multiple homes.
01:37:39.000 So if you're a boomer and you own three houses, you don't want their value going down.
01:37:43.000 So you're voting for keeping it propped up, which means mass migration to the detriment of Gen Z.
01:37:48.000 Yeah.
01:37:49.000 I think socialism is kind of inevitable in the West.
01:37:52.000 I mean, you look in France right now with all these riots going on.
01:37:56.000 You're getting a glimpse of what this is going to look like, right?
01:37:59.000 So, you have, let's just say, I'll speak about American demographics, probably pretty similar to France at this point.
01:38:04.000 You know, half of Zoomers are non white.
01:38:06.000 So, you can already take the majority of those people are going to have some sort of grievance or grudge against older white people.
01:38:11.000 That's just obvious.
01:38:12.000 There's no sense denying that.
01:38:12.000 It's baked in.
01:38:14.000 Then, with the half of Zoomers that are white, half of them are full blown socialists.
01:38:19.000 At least, at least half of them are full blown socialists.
01:38:22.000 And we're seeing the same thing in France right now, where at least half of these white Zoomers are also socialists.
01:38:27.000 They're also out there marching.
01:38:28.000 You look at the math, that means 75% of Zoomers.
01:38:31.000 I don't, first of all, I don't see their politics changing unless the environment around them changes.
01:38:35.000 It's inevitable.
01:38:36.000 At a certain point, probably in the 2030s or 2040s, when boomers start dying off and losing their voting power, you're probably going to see really, if the left doesn't get into power before that, you're going to see some heavy redistributionist policies.
01:38:48.000 And to Tim's point, I mean, if the right's not taking it seriously, it is what it is.
01:38:54.000 It's going to happen.
01:38:55.000 I don't think they're taking it seriously at all.
01:38:57.000 That last bit where the boomers walk up and laugh and say, get up, you got to pay my Social Security.
01:39:02.000 Republicans have no answer because even Trump is like, no, we're not going to touch Social Security.
01:39:07.000 We're going to protect it.
01:39:09.000 The funny thing is, every Democrat coming out and being like, it's a good thing.
01:39:12.000 Yeah, it's a good thing that it's going to be at 78% by 2032 and insolvent by 2038.
01:39:12.000 It's a good thing.
01:39:19.000 Zoomers and millennials aren't going to get it.
01:39:20.000 And boomers are saying, tax the youth more so we get free stuff.
01:39:25.000 And they're already the wealthiest group.
01:39:26.000 They are.
01:39:27.000 Average net worth of 1.6 million.
01:39:29.000 Democrats are saying they want to expand it to other age groups.
01:39:32.000 They want, they talk about universal basic income or they want to talk about Medicare for all or single payer health care.
01:39:38.000 That is going to only exacerbate the clear and present danger of the social.
01:39:44.000 And AOC came out and complained about college loans as indentured servitude.
01:39:48.000 What is Social Security?
01:39:50.000 It's just crazy.
01:39:51.000 And it's like, it's a completely indefensible system.
01:39:54.000 Just the system by and large, not just Social Security, but pretty much in every aspect of Western life, a life in the West.
01:40:01.000 I'm speaking Europe and the United States and Australia for that matter.
01:40:05.000 It's wealth transfers from the young to the old.
01:40:07.000 And it's like if you were to structure a system that makes sense, you know, what's the most important time of someone's life?
01:40:12.000 Like zero to four.
01:40:14.000 So, you know, if you were, let's just say, let's all put on our, you know, hats of social programs here.
01:40:19.000 Let's say we're in charge of, okay, you have to build it.
01:40:21.000 I know you're a libertarian.
01:40:22.000 You have to build a social program.
01:40:23.000 You'd probably be like, well, let's say zero to four would probably be the most essential time to provide some sort of income from the state.
01:40:30.000 I don't think the end of your life is really that important.
01:40:32.000 Yeah, I'm not that kind of libertarian.
01:40:34.000 In fact, Milton Friedman had an answer to all of this.
01:40:37.000 Milton Friedman's answer was it's two things.
01:40:41.000 You have to do both of them a flat tax coupled to UBI.
01:40:45.000 And we're going to have our social programs are going to bankrupt the U.S. at some point.
01:40:50.000 There's a financial catastrophe.
01:40:51.000 What we need to do, I believe, is or the Austrian perspective is you introduce a new currency, probably this one you make sound like tied to gold or a basket of assets.
01:41:01.000 You run like France did for a couple years in the early 90s, where you've got the French franc and you've got the euro, and you introduce the other currency.
01:41:12.000 All these social programs are going to Chernobyl in the U.S. dollar.
01:41:15.000 You let it Chernobyl.
01:41:17.000 But in the new currency introduced with a flat tax and a UBI.
01:41:21.000 And that's how, as AI and robotics suck up all the jobs, there's got to be some mechanism to share that largesse with society.
01:41:29.000 Otherwise, there's two ways we can go about it.
01:41:31.000 And one is the way that I think the left wants to do, what Biden and Obama want to do, was it's now there's a business model that basically 5% of humanity can escape with all the benefits and learnings and technology of 3,000 years.
01:41:45.000 And what they need to do is set up an authoritarian structure.
01:41:49.000 So, you can starve off the other 95% and you create a Hunger Games world for five to 10, 15 years, and you can.
01:41:56.000 And that was, to me, the great reset.
01:42:00.000 That was Klaus Schwab and the WF plan.
01:42:02.000 The other way to do it is to find some way to share all the benefit of this AI and robotics, and that's UBI and flat tax.
01:42:10.000 UBI makes no sense.
01:42:11.000 How do you generate more output than input?
01:42:15.000 Well, on UBI?
01:42:17.000 What do you mean?
01:42:18.000 How do you.
01:42:21.000 What are people going to buy with the money they receive?
01:42:25.000 Let's try like a local restaurant.
01:42:28.000 So, the first problems of let's start with non AI UBI.
01:42:34.000 I'll ask you this question How many people do you know play guitar?
01:42:37.000 Few.
01:42:38.000 Quite a bit.
01:42:39.000 Most people do, right?
01:42:40.000 I won't say most people, but.
01:42:42.000 I'm saying most people know someone who plays, right?
01:42:47.000 Of the people that you know who play guitar, how many of them do you think are good enough to professionally?
01:42:52.000 One.
01:42:52.000 One.
01:42:54.000 To the other ones who play guitar, if they were offered to play professionally, do you think they would take that job?
01:43:00.000 Yes, I think so.
01:43:03.000 It's a general question culturally, but it tends to be true.
01:43:07.000 Everybody's got some kind of hobby or something they would like to do, but they're not particularly good at.
01:43:13.000 Most people play music.
01:43:14.000 If you went to them and said, Would you like to make a living playing music versus working at the post office? they would say, Done.
01:43:21.000 So, what happens when you go to the person and say, We're going to give you a basic level of income that sustains you?
01:43:25.000 What do you want to do with your time?
01:43:27.000 I'm going to play guitar.
01:43:28.000 Well, we don't need a guitar player.
01:43:30.000 We need some jobs to be filled.
01:43:32.000 The issue is this a society cannot function when you have a percentage of people giving free access to economic output from people required to produce.
01:43:42.000 That's just it.
01:43:43.000 But if you UBI has to be universal, everybody gets the same UBI.
01:43:47.000 So that doesn't change the fact that there's going to be.
01:43:49.000 Some are going to work on and have higher income and they'll be able to command more.
01:43:53.000 Have you heard the old.
01:43:56.000 Urban legend about the high school teacher and the socialist grading system.
01:44:00.000 Let me tell you the story.
01:44:01.000 I don't know if it's true or not, but the story goes that a high school teacher was explaining capitalism and socialism to their students, to his or her students, and said, What we're going to do is to explain output in socialist systems, we're going to average all test scores and give everyone the same grade.
01:44:20.000 So, test comes this week, everybody takes the test.
01:44:25.000 The kids who worked really hard and were smart should have gotten A pluses, they got Bs because their average was brought down.
01:44:33.000 The kids who got B's didn't care.
01:44:34.000 I got a B, whatever, nothing changed.
01:44:36.000 And the kids who were failing were laughing because they got B's and they normally got C's and D's.
01:44:40.000 Well, the kids who got A's got pissed and said, Well, what's the point of fighting for an A if a B is all I'm going to get anyway?
01:44:47.000 So the next week, the average score was a D because the A students stopped working because they were like, I can't be the best.
01:44:53.000 I can't get an A.
01:44:54.000 The B students didn't care and they got B's, but the failing students were like, I don't got to do anything.
01:44:59.000 I'm going to get a B anyway.
01:45:01.000 The next week, everyone failed because you were demanding of someone more output.
01:45:08.000 Than they could put in.
01:45:09.000 So the people who were putting in the extra said, I don't get anything back from this.
01:45:13.000 And the people who don't do anything get more output.
01:45:15.000 It doesn't make sense to create a system.
01:45:16.000 It doesn't mathematically align that you can go to a guy and say, We absolutely must have a farmer.
01:45:24.000 We've automated most jobs, but not farming.
01:45:26.000 Or how about this?
01:45:27.000 We've not automated plumbing. 0.98
01:45:28.000 We need plumbers.
01:45:30.000 So everyone's going to get, let's say, $5,000 a month UBI, but you can make extra money if you be a plumber.
01:45:37.000 Most people, when asked and presented with this problem, say the same thing.
01:45:41.000 My time is worth more than being a plumber.
01:45:44.000 If I can make enough money to get by, I'm satisfied I won't take the job.
01:45:48.000 In which case, the cost of being a plumber starts skyrocketing to accommodate for UBI.
01:45:53.000 And now you have a few people who are like, we'll give you a million dollars a year to be a plumber.
01:46:00.000 The system doesn't make sense, it doesn't function.
01:46:04.000 Unfortunately, humans require some kind of stress and conflict to function.
01:46:09.000 So, this idea that Every time these problems are presented, they don't make sense.
01:46:15.000 A good example is hey, we've put kiosks in Taco Bell.
01:46:19.000 We don't need employees because robots can make the tacos.
01:46:22.000 Okay.
01:46:24.000 Who's going to buy the tacos?
01:46:25.000 They say it's fine because we can replace when we don't have the birth rates to replace low skilled workers, we'll get robots to do it.
01:46:33.000 You're going to get robots to buy the tacos too?
01:46:33.000 Yeah.
01:46:36.000 If no one is working at the Taco Bell to make the minimum wage, who's going to shop at Taco Bell?
01:46:36.000 Okay.
01:46:41.000 Nobody.
01:46:42.000 Because nobody.
01:46:43.000 Has the money to do it.
01:46:44.000 Then you say, okay, well, hold on.
01:46:46.000 Let's give everybody UBI.
01:46:48.000 Then they can go to Taco Bell, paid for by robots.
01:46:51.000 So the cost of the robots are low, but if we're giving money to people for free, if we're taking 30% of the costs of the revenue from the Taco Bell to give to the people dispersed evenly, how will they have enough to generate more than 100?
01:47:07.000 It doesn't make sense.
01:47:08.000 The math doesn't add up.
01:47:10.000 How do you generate more revenue from the restaurant to give to people for free?
01:47:14.000 Someone's.
01:47:16.000 The math on UBI doesn't add up.
01:47:19.000 It's impossible.
01:47:20.000 You need an input of some sort.
01:47:21.000 It could be just electricity.
01:47:23.000 You need some way to balance the withdrawal of the money from the system.
01:47:27.000 And I think putting electricity in is the most sensical way to do it.
01:47:31.000 Like, I don't know if that means solar panels on every house and everyone that hosts a solar panel gets solar panels.
01:47:37.000 No, Or we get to the point where AI rapidly accelerates so fast that there's no economy anymore at all.
01:47:53.000 Who would open a Taco Bell?
01:47:55.000 The government.
01:47:56.000 So, techno communism, if you come to me and say you can't make money off owning a Taco Bell, I say then I won't.
01:48:03.000 Or, how about this?
01:48:04.000 You don't need to make money anymore because of UBI.
01:48:07.000 Why would I open a Taco Bell?
01:48:08.000 Then there's no Taco Bell.
01:48:11.000 The math and the philosophy on UBI literally does not make sense.
01:48:14.000 The value of the market is the amount of labor put.
01:48:17.000 Okay, it's a lot to break down.
01:48:20.000 The amount of work that we're doing today is a fraction of the amount of work people had to do 100 years ago to survive.
01:48:26.000 But we're still doing something in exchange for something.
01:48:29.000 To run a Taco Bell, you still say, it's not about how hard or easy it is.
01:48:34.000 It's about how much time I have to invest in this.
01:48:37.000 And if I have to invest in being the sole employee of Taco Bell, I need to make a certain amount of money.
01:48:44.000 If everybody's getting UBI, it means your food and shelter is taken care of and you can do literally anything else you want.
01:48:50.000 Why would anyone do work?
01:48:53.000 Because the UBI is just at a basic subsistence level.
01:48:57.000 And somebody might say, gee, the value of being a plumber.
01:49:01.000 I'm not going to wait till it reaches a million dollars a year.
01:49:03.000 It's up to $400,000.
01:49:04.000 I'm going to go be a plumber.
01:49:06.000 And things balance before they.
01:49:08.000 That makes sense for someone of the mindset of I work because I want more.
01:49:13.000 But as we've already, the question of the guitar playing is that most people would say, I'd do nothing.
01:49:20.000 In which case, would you work at Taco Bell for $100,000 an hour?
01:49:25.000 You would do it.
01:49:25.000 Yeah.
01:49:26.000 Well, I might want to do more than just play the guitar.
01:49:30.000 Nobody will listen.
01:49:32.000 There will be some.
01:49:33.000 Here's the problem that we, I think you have 90, 95% of the workforce gets eliminated over the next five or 10 years through AI and robotics.
01:49:41.000 So either we have a system that is authoritarian and they just sort of get locked out and starved out, hunger games, or you have some way of spreading the benefit.
01:49:54.000 One of the challenges we have right now is that a lot of jobs don't need to exist, but have existed for the purpose of the economy.
01:49:59.000 And this is what we saw with Obamacare.
01:50:01.000 When one of the arguments as to why we don't streamline and eliminate a lot of the problems, you know, why don't we do like a universal healthcare system?
01:50:08.000 It's because healthcare administration is 20% of our economy.
01:50:12.000 We need there to be a reason that people trade for value.
01:50:16.000 Otherwise, we could have eliminated a lot of these useless jobs a long time ago.
01:50:19.000 Why doesn't the health insurance companies do that then?
01:50:22.000 Because they're profit maximizing.
01:50:24.000 If they can, or if a hospital can eliminate those jobs and maximize the profit, why aren't they doing it?
01:50:32.000 You know, why the government bailed out the auto industry, why there are special rules put in place that insurance companies have to do certain things and can't do other things.
01:50:41.000 And I think the answer is the people who have access to power and are ultra wealthy are like, tell me what to do so I can keep running the system and be rich.
01:50:49.000 And the government's like, don't change anything because these people have to have the jobs.
01:50:53.000 So they could implement change.
01:50:54.000 Like another, a really easy example is taxes.
01:50:58.000 Why do HR Block and Jackson Hood exist?
01:51:01.000 We could have automated tax preparation.
01:51:03.000 20 years ago.
01:51:04.000 It's 2% of, and it sucks up 2% of GDP, the just the act of tax preparation.
01:51:09.000 Because we don't want to blow up the economy overnight and people have to work to exchange value.
01:51:14.000 Because you cannot have a country where half the people literally do nothing and the other half have to work.
01:51:20.000 Until we eliminate 100% of jobs, you either need some slave labor or people have to keep working, otherwise, perception of fairness.
01:51:28.000 So if there are people who don't have to work, mid level people who are like, You know, I'm a B student.
01:51:36.000 I'm a mid level manager.
01:51:37.000 I try my best.
01:51:38.000 I'll never be a CEO or a founder.
01:51:40.000 You come to them and say, you know, that guy outside gets a free hotel and doesn't have to work.
01:51:44.000 What are they going to do?
01:51:45.000 They're going to say, I quit.
01:51:46.000 I'd rather have my time and less money than work so they can live off my back.
01:51:52.000 That's what UBI just does not make sense until we get Star Trek replicators and there is no requirement for any labor.
01:52:00.000 I mean, even then, the problem is in Star Trek, they had property and they owned property.
01:52:04.000 So there's still a value over you.
01:52:08.000 Don't you think we're pretty close between AI and robotics of having Star Trek replicators?
01:52:13.000 To a certain degree, but again, there's still property and IP and things like that.
01:52:16.000 And the problem is there's going to be this gap that I think we're already seeing where someone says, look, From where I am to where you are to being wealthy and having more is so far.
01:52:31.000 I'd rather just hang out on my friend's farm and smell the flowers.
01:52:36.000 Some people, but if you want to have a wife, you got to earn. 1.00
01:52:40.000 Not if you have UBI. 0.95
01:52:41.000 You can't host a family off 200 bucks a month or 200 a month.
01:52:44.000 Who said 200 a month?
01:52:45.000 I'm talking.
01:52:46.000 No one said 200.
01:52:47.000 You can't host a family off of the bare minimum.
01:52:49.000 And it would be a sick family if you tried.
01:52:51.000 So you need to.
01:52:51.000 The point of universal basic income is to cover those costs, not family.
01:52:56.000 I mean, maybe if everybody in the family is getting it, you might be able to get it.
01:52:56.000 Yes.
01:52:59.000 A man gets five.
01:52:59.000 That's right.
01:53:00.000 I'm talking about if you're five and you got 10K per month.
01:53:01.000 If you want to thrive, if you really want a healthy family, you need to work.
01:53:06.000 There will always be men that go out there and do it.
01:53:08.000 Let's just pause again and say the argument we're having about UBI is that your basics are covered 100%.
01:53:16.000 That includes a man gets 5K, a woman gets 5K, the family has 10K per month.
01:53:21.000 The problem is, I'm thinking of something much more modest than that that may be for adults.
01:53:27.000 You don't do it for children.
01:53:29.000 That and it's be more like $2,000, $2,500 a month is where this would start.
01:53:35.000 And the idea is like our current way of redistributing wealth and providing a social safety net is actually creates great economic incentives to break up the family.
01:53:45.000 And we've learned over the last 60 years that really bad things happen when you break up families.
01:53:50.000 So you want to create a UBI that basically any two adults can get together, live, survive, and maybe even raise two kids on.
01:53:57.000 That and but if you want more than that, you're going to be working.
01:54:01.000 Yeah, I don't see what the solution is then.
01:54:05.000 The alternative solution for if AI and robotics are going to eliminate 90% of jobs, eliminate 90% of people, or do you create some safety that they can?
01:54:16.000 I don't know if one of my favorite lines, you ever see the movie Snatch?
01:54:20.000 Is when the dude's like, don't drink milk, it's out of sync with evolution.
01:54:20.000 Yeah.
01:54:24.000 And the point is, I don't know that.
01:54:27.000 Oh, we'll do a Matrix quote.
01:54:29.000 In the Matrix, Smith says that we gave humans paradise and they rejected it.
01:54:33.000 Humans need conflict.
01:54:35.000 We are built for physical labor.
01:54:37.000 If we don't get it, we die.
01:54:38.000 So we created physical labor facsimiles, gyms, so we can go and pretend to do the physical labor that we needed to survive.
01:54:48.000 I don't know if humans can survive being purpose built for a world that doesn't have purpose.
01:54:56.000 I think you'll see political conflict.
01:54:58.000 I think when you get UBI, you'll have ideological war.
01:55:01.000 Well, set aside UBI then.
01:55:03.000 Let's just talk about the world as it is.
01:55:05.000 How do you handle it?
01:55:06.000 The idea that over maybe four years, 90% of jobs aren't going to be necessary.
01:55:11.000 I think that's the case.
01:55:12.000 And I don't know that you can have a society.
01:55:14.000 So, for one, humans can adapt.
01:55:17.000 But the rate of change we're seeing with antrobotics is terrifying.
01:55:20.000 I don't know how you have a society where there's a guy who has to be a farmer who turns on the TV and sees illegal immigrants getting free housing.
01:55:30.000 And he's sitting here being like, I wake up and break my back every single day.
01:55:35.000 And that guy in New York, I quit.
01:55:37.000 I don't know, man.
01:55:37.000 I'm going to go live in New York for free.
01:55:39.000 I wake up every morning and look around at kids that were born to rich parents, and I just deal with it.
01:55:43.000 Like, I just got to do better myself.
01:55:44.000 You know, there's always going to be people out there that are wealthier than you that have it easier than you.
01:55:48.000 We have a rising socialist faction because of what you're describing, and they're violent and they kill people.
01:55:54.000 Well, I'm not advocating to get rid of capitalism.
01:55:56.000 I'm not saying you are.
01:55:57.000 I'm saying in a world where the average working class Joe, who still needs to exist because only 49% of jobs were eliminated, sees refugees and other people getting free money off of his tax dollars, he wakes up every day and he makes a birdhouse.
01:56:13.000 And then a guy walks in and buys it from him with money he got from the government out of his tax dollars.
01:56:17.000 He's going to say, why don't I be them?
01:56:20.000 Why am I the one sucker having to work?
01:56:23.000 I'd rather get paid less, but get to relax and not stress.
01:56:28.000 I don't think that's the human condition.
01:56:30.000 People aren't built to sit around, they're made to create.
01:56:33.000 Correct.
01:56:34.000 And what happens, see, and again, I stress this don't project.
01:56:40.000 What do we see when people don't have to work?
01:56:45.000 These people who go out Antifa with guns and bricks and starting fires, they don't have jobs.
01:56:49.000 How are they?
01:56:50.000 When we see a society.
01:56:52.000 Advance to the point where you don't need to work to survive, people pick up guns and bricks and smash and kill.
01:56:58.000 Well, that's one thing they do.
01:56:59.000 Are you familiar with that famous experiment with the mice?
01:57:02.000 Yeah, the rat utopia experiment.
01:57:04.000 They stop breeding, they become gay, they, and that's not an insult, they start grooming themselves, then they rip each other to shreds, their gums bleed, and they die.
01:57:11.000 The mothers kill their babies.
01:57:12.000 It's called behavioral sink. 1.00
01:57:13.000 Right.
01:57:14.000 It's when you don't have resistance.
01:57:15.000 Every living tree needs resistance, otherwise, they fall over.
01:57:18.000 Humans need resistance.
01:57:19.000 You called it conflict earlier.
01:57:21.000 It's a type of resistance, it's conflict.
01:57:23.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:57:25.000 And purpose.
01:57:26.000 I think that, look, we're really close to matter replication.
01:57:30.000 What they're doing at CERN by smashing particles together is they're creating hadrons, which is a state of quark where it can become a proton or, honestly, it can become an electron.
01:57:42.000 You can take electrons and turn them into protons.
01:57:46.000 That is matter replicate.
01:57:47.000 That is taking electricity and turning it into matter.
01:57:50.000 So that is like happening.
01:57:53.000 That's what a hadron does.
01:57:55.000 Hadrons are versatile three quark formations.
01:57:58.000 I might be bastardizing some of this, but the math is tough.
01:58:00.000 I'm not supposed to do anything like that.
01:58:01.000 I don't know.
01:58:02.000 AI speeds it up so fast.
01:58:04.000 Sorry, you were sick.
01:58:04.000 No, the singularity, I agree with Ian.
01:58:06.000 The singularity, are you familiar with the singularity concept?
01:58:09.000 We're in it right now.
01:58:10.000 It's happening.
01:58:13.000 Two months ago, my brother is coding games, vibe coding games through Claude and GPT.
01:58:19.000 And then Astra and Fable come out, and now you can snap your fingers.
01:58:24.000 That was about a month ago.
01:58:25.000 I was like, I did four years of coding over a weekend.
01:58:28.000 We're already past that point.
01:58:29.000 Actually, now, in one month, we are beyond where I was.
01:58:33.000 100x.
01:58:33.000 They're taking one model, one AI model, I heard, and they're just training it just on what's happening at CERN.
01:58:40.000 It doesn't, all it sees is particle collisions and it's learning how particles function.
01:58:44.000 Two months ago, they had thousands of AI models trying to solve a single math problem, and it cost millions of dollars at OpenAI.
01:58:52.000 They solved the problem.
01:58:54.000 What was it, last week or a week ago?
01:58:56.000 Yep.
01:58:56.000 One agent solved 200 and contributed to another 100 plus.
01:59:02.000 The rate of acceleration in AI, it's happening.
01:59:06.000 It is happening.
01:59:07.000 Okay, I'm going to say it again.
01:59:08.000 A month ago, I go, Wow, I did four years of coding in two days.
01:59:12.000 The game is still not done.
01:59:13.000 It's being refined, and I'm already going, I give up.
01:59:16.000 Because now you can take an existing game, decompile the code, ingest it into the AI, and say, use this to build any game you want.
01:59:23.000 What advice do you then give to your millennial or Zoomer viewers?
01:59:29.000 Get out of cities.
01:59:30.000 Exactly. 0.61
01:59:31.000 Two or three acres, get a cow.
01:59:33.000 Cow is one head of cattle.
01:59:38.000 Get two or three acres and get settled down.
01:59:40.000 So you've maximized your worst case outcome if you get to subsistence farming, you start living with the Waltons.
01:59:47.000 Here's why I say get out of.
01:59:48.000 It is possible to build a system with some kind of universal income, but it can't happen overnight and requires generations of change.
01:59:57.000 Humans do not do well without something to do.
02:00:00.000 Idle hands are the devil's playground, right?
02:00:03.000 What we're watching right now is far left extremists with no purpose, firebombing, shooting, shooting up Tesla, all this crazy stuff, fighting ice.
02:00:12.000 They don't know why.
02:00:13.000 They don't understand politics.
02:00:14.000 They're listless and purposeless.
02:00:16.000 So they've replaced the work with ideology.
02:00:19.000 And there's no way to get ahead.
02:00:21.000 There's no way.
02:00:22.000 They've got the student debt and the houses are too expensive.
02:00:25.000 There's no amount of money.
02:00:27.000 Humans want status. 0.59
02:00:30.000 Women want status with the best man or among their peers, and men want to accomplish.
02:00:35.000 If you take away success and replace it with uniformity through automation, people are going to go insane.
02:00:42.000 More importantly, Adobe is about to dissolve.
02:00:47.000 I'm not suggesting anyone, I mean, I got to be honest.
02:00:50.000 I'm going to talk to my financial experts about shorts on Adobe right now.
02:00:56.000 Because their principal revenue stream is a software that is free.
02:01:00.000 It reminds me of that scene from Iron Man where Jim Cramer goes, Stark Industries, that's a weapons manufacturer that doesn't make weapons.
02:01:08.000 And I'm looking at Adobe right now.
02:01:10.000 There's a software company that sells software that you can download for free.
02:01:14.000 I'm like, what happens to all of those employees in six months when you start seeing all the corporations come in for their quarterly one assessment or Q1 assessment and they're like, hey, we can shave $50,000.
02:01:27.000 Per quarter by eliminating our Adobe subscription and shifting to the Artcraft suite.
02:01:31.000 I think there's a lot of people who will be focused on damage control, which is kind of how we're going talking about UBI.
02:01:35.000 And then a large amount of people will be focused on creating the next phase, which is matter replication or matter fabrication.
02:01:42.000 And I think with matter fabrication, the upside and the white pill is that the most valuable commodity on the planet.
02:01:48.000 What is it?
02:01:48.000 Everybody?
02:01:49.000 The most valuable commodity on the planet.
02:01:49.000 Anybody?
02:01:51.000 Wait, wait, wait, don't say it.
02:01:52.000 Don't say it.
02:01:54.000 Ask the question one more time.
02:01:55.000 What do you think is the most valuable commodity on the planet?
02:01:57.000 And I'll tell you what it is.
02:01:58.000 Antimatter.
02:01:59.000 It's water.
02:02:00.000 Water is the most valuable commodity on the planet.
02:02:02.000 People are afraid Nestle's buying it up.
02:02:03.000 It's going to be the easiest thing to fabricate.
02:02:05.000 No, it's hydrogen mixed with the oxygen.
02:02:07.000 Antimatter.
02:02:09.000 The most valuable thing.
02:02:11.000 The most valuable thing on the planet is water.
02:02:12.000 It's antimatter.
02:02:14.000 Okay, okay, maybe, maybe somewhere.
02:02:15.000 But to humans right now, the most valuable thing on Earth is water.
02:02:19.000 It's the most valuable commodity.
02:02:21.000 You can buy and store it's water.
02:02:23.000 So being able to fabricate water with particle collisions is really, really valuable.
02:02:29.000 That might reduce poverty to zero if people have access to clean water.
02:02:33.000 What do you mean?
02:02:34.000 If we can fabricate clean water on the spot for people with particle collisions.
02:02:38.000 Water is not going to stop poverty.
02:02:40.000 I think it's the basis for ending poverty fresh water for everybody.
02:02:43.000 If we can get clean water, it's just been such a problem, you know, to get.
02:02:48.000 There's only certain parts of the world.
02:02:50.000 You can just get water from the air.
02:02:52.000 Yeah, there's only certain parts of the world where water is.
02:02:55.000 Like you can literally dig a hole and there's water.
02:02:58.000 Sometimes.
02:02:59.000 And sometimes you can get it from the air, but you need a lot of electricity.
02:03:02.000 And you need a lot of electricity for all this stuff.
02:03:04.000 You don't need a lot of electricity.
02:03:05.000 You can get it from the air everywhere, it just depends on how high you want to go.
02:03:08.000 So, I'm white pilled on not all dying as a human race for the.
02:03:14.000 I think.
02:03:15.000 I think that.
02:03:18.000 So, people started decompiling video games.
02:03:20.000 And then a guy made a video where he was like, and then someone asked me, why don't you just decompile software?
02:03:25.000 So, here we go.
02:03:25.000 The entire Adobe Suite's now free.
02:03:27.000 And I'm like, Microsoft is next.
02:03:30.000 You name it.
02:03:30.000 Everything.
02:03:31.000 You can make any app you want.
02:03:32.000 I know.
02:03:33.000 YouTube is community.
02:03:34.000 I'm just saying, get ready.
02:03:34.000 I'm not even threatening.
02:03:36.000 We need to.
02:03:37.000 You cannot.
02:03:38.000 The reason I say get out of the cities is because what happens when you have a guy.
02:03:42.000 Who's 40, he's got three kids, and Adobe goes to him and says, I'm sorry, our revenue dropped to zero overnight.
02:03:47.000 I went to let you go.
02:03:48.000 We can't even pay you a severance.
02:03:50.000 And he goes, How do I eat?
02:03:51.000 Good luck.
02:03:52.000 You get 30 million people on unemployment overnight.
02:03:55.000 The system doesn't have the money.
02:03:56.000 Pat, if we.
02:03:57.000 You're going to get bricks through windows, theft, robbery.
02:04:00.000 They're going to ransack farms and steal your chickens.
02:04:01.000 How much, by your estimation, do we have in the.
02:04:05.000 Like if we were just to go on a printing rampage to present a UBI thing in the next two years to slow.
02:04:12.000 How much debt do you think we could take on?
02:04:14.000 I don't think you do it in U.S. dollars.
02:04:15.000 You create a new currency that is gold backed.
02:04:20.000 And the dollar is going to Chernobyl anyway.
02:04:23.000 And you run out your liabilities that the government has in the dollar.
02:04:27.000 You pay your social security, all these things, keep those promises, but those are going to become overtime worthless.
02:04:34.000 And you move your economic activity into this new currency.
02:04:39.000 I do want to bring, and including the social safety net, and it's a much more modest UBI is what I'm talking about.
02:04:46.000 Something that's subsistence, that people still have a reason to go work.
02:04:48.000 It's not luxury.
02:04:49.000 You're right.
02:04:50.000 If you pay PEUBI of $70,000 a year or more, Most people just aren't going to work.
02:04:55.000 Are you familiar with the book called One Second After?
02:04:57.000 This is right up your alley.
02:05:01.000 I think that you're right.
02:05:02.000 And that was a CIA, that was a national security planning exercise that they discovered what it looks like when society collapses.
02:05:11.000 And they classified it all up.
02:05:13.000 This was 2005.
02:05:15.000 And they told the CIA to write a novel to teach what we learned.
02:05:18.000 And that novel comes right out of that.
02:05:20.000 I have a thought on this one.
02:05:21.000 So let's say we are like, okay, we're going to go UBI.
02:05:24.000 Everyone's going to get $5,000 a month.
02:05:27.000 And based on current levels, it's not great, but it's good.
02:05:32.000 You can pay your rent, you have food.
02:05:33.000 We don't expect you to be an investor or anything with this money.
02:05:37.000 So, what we end up seeing with automation is that the guy who owns the Taco Bell franchise gets rid of all his employees and robots make the tacos and he has kiosks.
02:05:46.000 Let's say that this actually works and they say, we're going to tax you at 30% from all the revenue generated so that we can disperse it among the people so they can buy the tacos.
02:05:54.000 The first problem I bring up is taxing 30% of the revenue to fund 100% of the purchases is impossible.
02:06:01.000 But let's just say, hypothetically, you find a math solution to that problem.
02:06:06.000 Because the individuals who aren't working, so like basically, they have to find value elsewhere and bring to Taco Bell.
02:06:12.000 So the revenue generated is 120% of the costs required.
02:06:18.000 But if your funding is only 30%, the idea is we're stripping it from all of the businesses and then directing them in market means to better businesses.
02:06:27.000 Okay, let's just hypothetically say that works.
02:06:29.000 The end result is there's going to be a very small amount of ultra wealthy individuals.
02:06:33.000 At the same time, these people are saying billionaires shouldn't exist.
02:06:36.000 So, you can't have a political system of ideologues saying no wealth, communism, but also only a few individuals who want to work to make more are the ones who should.
02:06:45.000 You might have like smart contract corporations that are just AIs, like Taco Bell could become an AI, and then it's not trying to make money, it's just trying to serve you.
02:06:55.000 Again, the question is if you have a business and you say we're going to tax 30% of the revenue generated to fund 100% of the input, how does that make sense?
02:07:04.000 Suppose we were talking about a modest UBI of $2,500, and there's Something for healthcare built into that.
02:07:13.000 $30,000 a year is, or two people together get $60,000 a year.
02:07:19.000 For some people, they are going to form a household and just live off that and play Grand Theft Auto.
02:07:26.000 Others are going to, well, I think you do something like this fairly modestly as a way to absorb the layoffs that are coming.
02:07:35.000 And as time goes on, you know.
02:07:37.000 That system will never end, it'll only expand.
02:07:40.000 The only real solution from a mathematic and evolutionary standpoint is the people unwilling to work starve to death.
02:07:47.000 Well, you could also use the data centers to pay people to host data centers in their homes.
02:07:53.000 It just requires homeowners, though, because the people that don't.
02:07:56.000 The point is.
02:07:58.000 What I'm trying to avoid is what you're saying.
02:07:59.000 Yes, that is the solution.
02:08:00.000 You can't avoid it.
02:08:02.000 So the problem with all government systems is that they're immortal.
02:08:06.000 And no one on government free money wants to give it up.
02:08:09.000 Social Security is a great example.
02:08:11.000 It is politically impossible to get rid of Social Security despite the fact it's destroying us.
02:08:15.000 So I think we just lived through a.
02:08:18.000 Administration whose plan was what you just said get authoritarianism in place, and then we're going to starve off.
02:08:26.000 I mean, over time, 80 90% of people are just starved off.
02:08:30.000 This UBI system can work if your people are moral and industrious.
02:08:36.000 But if you have any, so if your population is 3% layabout, well, you know, you can tolerate it.
02:08:44.000 If your population is 7% layabout, you're getting frustrated.
02:08:46.000 If your population is 70% layabout, the other 30% are going to burn everything down.
02:08:51.000 But that's even without UBI.
02:08:54.000 Correct.
02:08:55.000 So UBI accelerates, is my point.
02:08:57.000 We've gone way over, and I apologize to the members for not getting everything through.
02:09:01.000 But I'm just, I was having, I thought it was fun.
02:09:04.000 And, you know, we had a good time in the new studio.
02:09:06.000 It's our first night here.
02:09:08.000 So I want to respect everyone's time.
02:09:10.000 Smash the like button, share the show, follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
02:09:13.000 Final thoughts?
02:09:14.000 You want to shout anything out or say anything before we wrap up?
02:09:16.000 Congratulations on your new studio.
02:09:16.000 Great.
02:09:18.000 And thanks for having me on.
02:09:19.000 Absolutely.
02:09:20.000 Where can people find you?
02:09:21.000 X is the best place these days.
02:09:23.000 Just Patrick Byrne at Twitter.
02:09:26.000 X. Good conversation, man.
02:09:28.000 Back at you.
02:09:28.000 Yeah, let's.
02:09:29.000 You're far out there.
02:09:30.000 You're thinking you're over the horizon.
02:09:32.000 Let's go outside.
02:09:32.000 You're over the horizon.
02:09:33.000 Bring it back in and we'll cross paths again.
02:09:35.000 I thought I was revolutionary with UBI.
02:09:38.000 You're talking about CERN and matter manufacturing water.
02:09:43.000 Yeah, I think that's like step three after your step two.
02:09:46.000 We'll be okay.
02:09:47.000 Good to see you again.
02:09:48.000 You guys as well.
02:09:48.000 Nice studio.
02:09:49.000 Thanks, everybody, for hosting.
02:09:50.000 Thanks to everybody running tech over there.
02:09:52.000 Got Andrew and Carter up in it.
02:09:54.000 What's up?
02:09:55.000 Go ahead, Ian.
02:09:55.000 Yeah, sorry.
02:09:56.000 Hey, man.
02:09:57.000 You never have to apologize to me, dude.
02:09:59.000 Catch me at Ian Cross and I'll see you later, Tate Brown.
02:10:01.000 Is there a camera pointing at you over there?
02:10:03.000 Yes.
02:10:04.000 It is right above you, Tate.
02:10:06.000 Right here.
02:10:07.000 I still got to get it dialed in.
02:10:10.000 And when these speakers are mounted, I'll be more part of the conversation.
02:10:13.000 But I can't even see Patrick right now.
02:10:16.000 But yeah, we're just getting everything going.
02:10:18.000 First day, it's been a pleasure.
02:10:20.000 I'm Carter Banks, and you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere.
02:10:23.000 And I'm going to go to Tate now.
02:10:26.000 Yeah, X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown.
02:10:29.000 And yes, Shout out to Carter.
02:10:31.000 Shout out to Andrew, Patriot Andrew.
02:10:33.000 Make sure you follow him on Twitter.
02:10:35.000 So it's A underscore Minkst, right?
02:10:38.000 It's M I N G S T. Shout out to Kellen at Kellen PDL.
02:10:43.000 These guys have been busting their tails to get this studio ready.
02:10:47.000 Obviously, we have a great team here.
02:10:48.000 I just don't know who wants to get named on camera.
02:10:50.000 That would probably be bad if I start doxing people.
02:10:52.000 But those three.
02:10:53.000 And then you forget somebody and they're like, dude.
02:10:56.000 That's probably other people I'm forgetting.
02:10:57.000 But these are the three that are here.
02:10:58.000 We've got a shout out to Marconi, who has a very nice suit on today.
02:11:01.000 I know.
02:11:02.000 Mark is kind of the engine room.
02:11:03.000 Tim Cass.
02:11:04.000 He's a very beautiful man.
02:11:06.000 There's a suit on.
02:11:07.000 That's everybody.
02:11:08.000 There's no one else important who should be named.
02:11:09.000 So you named literally everybody, and there's no one we forgot.
02:11:13.000 All right.
02:11:14.000 That's it.
02:11:16.000 Now I'm like being gassed.
02:11:17.000 Oh, I got the camera on you, man.
02:11:18.000 You are.
02:11:19.000 I'm just the people that are in the room or that are basically in the room.
02:11:21.000 You don't want to get jumped after the show.
02:11:23.000 Shout out to Chuck.
02:11:23.000 I know what you said.
02:11:25.000 Oh, well, yeah, Chuck.
02:11:25.000 Well, Chuck's not here.
02:11:26.000 He's not in the room.
02:11:27.000 He was.
02:11:27.000 Balyosian?
02:11:28.000 Yeah, Chuck.
02:11:29.000 He's our bean counter. 0.95
02:11:31.000 So shout out to the bean counter.
02:11:33.000 Who else?
02:11:34.000 He greeted me.
02:11:35.000 Shout out to the.
02:11:38.000 Security guards?
02:11:39.000 The whole production crew, everybody involved putting this together.
02:11:42.000 The set's beautiful, by the way, you guys.
02:11:43.000 My mom and dad are awesome.
02:11:47.000 Shout out to the Liberal Economic Order for providing this opportunity to talk shit to our own government.
02:11:51.000 Oh, that's the American Constitutionalist.
02:11:52.000 Shout out to George Washington.
02:11:54.000 Dog.
02:11:54.000 Ellen and Chris.
02:11:56.000 Yeah.
02:11:56.000 Rich.
02:11:56.000 Phil.
02:11:57.000 And Greg.
02:11:57.000 All right.
02:11:58.000 We should go eat.
02:11:59.000 Thank you guys very much for doing all the hard work so that we can come and put on the show every day at IRL.
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02:12:24.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
02:12:25.000 Welcome to the new studio.
02:12:27.000 We actually have another one because we're building the Tim Pool studio and it's going to be awesome.
02:12:32.000 Election night party, two and a half weeks, is going to be insane.
02:12:36.000 The people that are showing up, it's going to be wild.
02:12:39.000 I think half the people don't like the other half.
02:12:40.000 They got a lot of people who have beef and it's going to be good.
02:12:43.000 We're going to be live all day here at the studio.
02:12:46.000 Plus, this room is just one studio in the big studio.
02:12:49.000 So it's going to be epic.
02:12:51.000 Thanks for hanging out, guys.
02:12:53.000 Have fun this weekend.
02:12:55.000 I got a show up tomorrow on the Tim Cass channel, and then the Tim Pool show will be on Sunday, and we'll see you then.
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02:13:02.000 Members only calling shows.