On today's show, we discuss the latest in the Joe Biden scandal, the Trump administration's attempt to deport millions of immigrants, and the new book Joe Biden Is Dead, written by Joe Biden's wife, Tammy Biden.
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00:07:04.000We've got this from the New York Times.
00:07:06.000Wisconsin judge indicted on charges that she helped immigrant evade agents.
00:07:12.000Judge Hannah C. Dugan was accused of helping an undocumented immigrant elude federal agents who were waiting to arrest him outside her courtroom.
00:07:21.000They say the Wisconsin judge arrested last month and accused of helping an undocumented, how about illegal immigrant?
00:07:26.000They say the indictment of Judge Hannah C. Dugan of the Milwaukee County Circuit Court was a routine but significant step in the DOJ's case against her.
00:07:34.000The Trump administration has defended the prosecution as a warning that no one is above the law.
00:07:40.000While many Democrats, lawyers, and former judges have denounced it as an assault on the judiciary, Judge Dugan has been temporarily removed from the bench by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.
00:07:48.000While the case against her advances, has indicated through a lawyer she intends to fight the charges.
00:07:54.000She's expected to appear in court on Thursday.
00:07:56.000I gotta be honest, I do not see how she wins.
00:08:27.000It says, on or about April 18th, 2025, knowingly concealed EFR, a person whose arrest, a warrant, and press had been issued under the provisions of law of the United States.
00:08:44.000Did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper administration of the law, under which a pending proceeding was being had before Department and Agency of the United States.
00:08:54.000We do have, I believe, a photo of the criminal alien who was trying to escape from the New York Post.
00:09:01.000And then, of course, this video of Hannesie Dugan leaving the courtroom.
00:09:45.000So this is not political, and I don't see why it needs to be politicized at all.
00:09:49.000This is not even about a judge doing this.
00:09:51.000This is about a human being trying to help another human being escape arrest.
00:09:55.000The fact that the news has centered on her being a judge shows that Democrats expect certain people to be above the law.
00:10:01.000It's outrageous, too, because I feel like Democrats were reliably telling me for a while that nobody was above the law.
00:10:05.000And I think it's weird that they're calling it an attack on the judiciary because, again, if judges break the law, there's no reason that they shouldn't be able to be arrested for their crimes.
00:10:13.000However, I'm sure she knows a lot of good lawyers, seeing that she is a judge.
00:10:17.000So she might be able to wiggle her way out of this one.
00:10:20.000I think they're just counting on people not actually reading what she did and seeing, hey, this person.
00:10:32.000So it's the third, or there's probably more than three, but it's the third that I can recall immigration hoax that we're seeing so far in the Trump administration.
00:11:07.000In 10 years, when these boomers aren't voting anymore, or not to be crude, I know I say this a bit, but when they're passing on, and these cable networks and these corporate news outlets can't maintain these offices and these companies, The media narrative landscape is going to flip like a glacier.
00:11:28.000It's going to be nuts, the political reckoning that we see.
00:11:34.000You know, and it's hard for me to blame the public for falling for some of these hoaxes because for the average person, you don't have the time to dig in to every little nuance of every story and you just reliably or think you can reliably read a headline without being misled.
00:11:47.000But it seems there is a consensus in the media to go along with so many of these immigration hoaxes.
00:11:52.000Do you guys think that this is the phenomenon of so many people being misled by the establishment media?
00:12:02.000Do you think that's actually something new because of the digital age?
00:12:05.000Or do you think that it was just because there are multiple outlets now?
00:12:08.000Yeah, I don't think there's any such thing as an objective news source.
00:12:18.000And I think the difference now is because we have an open information environment, we can actually compare what the open information environment is saying versus a single source, and we see the bias.
00:12:28.000I do think that when Trump arrived on the scene, it became even more polarized because I think the establishment found him so odious that they doubled down on their bias, especially in New York Times.
00:12:38.000I mean, I used to be on the left, and then my first realization was, oh, wow, the New York Times exclusively reports negative things about Trump.
00:12:45.000That was the first window into, oh, I thought I'm getting the truth, but I'm getting a new story.
00:12:51.000I want to push back a little bit because I've had this debate on subjectivity and objectivity quite a bit throughout the years in journalism.
00:12:57.000And I think the bigger question is not whether or not someone has a bias.
00:13:17.000Yes, but that doesn't mean you falsely frame the narrative of a story.
00:13:21.000So the way I describe it to people is, you know, if I'm outside at a diner, And I see two guys get into a brawl, and someone comes up to me and says, what happened?
00:13:39.000I can still be honest, but you don't know if you want to trust what I'm saying, because I'm going to be like, that guy attacked my brother.
00:13:46.000And they're going to be like, okay, well, you know, we hear what you're saying.
00:13:59.000Sometimes the right gets things wrong and some people on the right do lie.
00:14:01.000But it's a tendency on the left, or I should say it's a generality on the left and sometimes on the right.
00:14:08.000You'll find that there are right-wing grifters trying to make money and they're going to lie and they're going to make AI garbage and whatever they have to do to get money.
00:14:26.000Because I can sit down with Charlie Kirk and have different views on legislating abortion, for instance, but we will be completely honest about the circumstances in this country and the facts.
00:15:28.000Okay, so I agree with you that right now the left is more detached from reality than the right, and I think the right piece is a higher premium on truth.
00:15:36.000When I say that everyone is subjective, I don't necessarily mean that people are being dishonest, but the subjectivity gets in when we're talking about narratives, and we're talking about what facts do we focus on, what stories do we focus on.
00:15:57.000They don't often say things that are literally untrue.
00:16:03.000Actually creates a dishonesty that you're talking about.
00:16:05.000And for the New York Times, which presents itself as just objectively, independently seeking the truth, they're misleading their readers.
00:16:13.000Because what they're actually doing is they're prosecuting a campaign against Trump, like they have been for the last 10 years, and saying, we're just reporting the news.
00:16:21.000But they're not just reporting the news.
00:16:22.000They're reporting a story that they want you to buy into.
00:16:26.000I think it happens both on the right and the left.
00:16:28.000I do think that the left seems more committed to prosecuting an agenda than the truth.
00:16:33.000So I think for them it's like, you know, there's this clip of this woman from NPR saying sometimes the truth gets in the way.
00:16:39.000And I actually think that was quite revealing because to her it's like, well, we need to do the moral thing even at the expense of the truth.
00:16:45.000And I think people on the right tend to have a proclivity saying it needs to be the truth first and then morality after that.
00:16:52.000Real quick, that was an AOC quote as well.
00:16:55.000She said something about being morally right instead of factually correct.
00:16:59.000Do you think that part of what we're going through today is that the left believes ridiculous things are the truth, like men can become women and women can become men, and do you think it's that they believe just insane things?
00:17:12.000Well, I mean, I like to avoid broad categorizations of the left, because there are reasonable people on the left, and I think it's been co-opted by a fringe, but yeah, the people that you're talking about, I think for them, The truth is subjective to them.
00:17:25.000They don't actually believe fundamentally in the idea of truth.
00:17:29.000And that's why you hear things like your truth, my truth.
00:18:00.000Kind of made you say, okay, I actually do have to stop considering myself on the left and I have to rethink my values because that's a big step.
00:18:36.000If you're always being told negative things about a person, you're probably not getting the whole truth because everyone has something positive to them.
00:18:45.000And that was the moment when I decided, okay, I'm just going to unsubscribe from the New York Times and disconnect from all this stuff.
00:18:50.000And then me getting back engaged in politics happened more recently.
00:18:54.000I wanted to follow up on something that we were talking about a little bit earlier with the dishonesty and lack of objectivity.
00:18:59.000I don't specifically think it's a left-right thing, although it might be more prevalent on the left.
00:19:04.000I think most people who are interested in politics aren't moderates, because if you're interested in it, you're likely to be on the right or the left, and there are downstream consequences of that.
00:19:13.000And I don't think there's any lack of dishonesty or lack of objectivity on the right with posting things that are disingenuous.
00:19:20.000For example, recently I saw this video.
00:19:23.000It was Emmanuel Macron with a little tissue on the table.
00:19:26.000Everybody on Twitter was so quick to call this a bag of some drug or something when it was really so obvious that it wasn't.
00:19:34.000But really, we have so many crazy, perverse incentives between social media and news journalism where people are driving.
00:19:43.000And that's really what sustains so many of these media companies.
00:19:46.000So I think we also need to understand those perverse incentives because it really shows how different people with different parties And leanings are more willing to go along with things when they're obviously fake or wrong and they're clearly being dishonest about it but willing to try to capitalize on it.
00:20:02.000I just think that's something we should...
00:20:26.000Do you guys remember in Trump's first term when the White House intern was walking up to get the microphone from, what's his face, the CNN guy?
00:21:30.000That has been consistently happening for a decade now.
00:21:34.000Do you guys ever see, there's this research they do.
00:21:38.000Where a mouth will say fa or pa, and then depending on which sound they play, you will see their mouth making that noise, and then when they turn the sound off, you will read it as if it's one sound or the other.
00:21:52.000We referred to this recently as information vaccination.
00:21:57.000Ian's been calling, Ian called it this, and it's a great point.
00:22:00.000He says that often when a story comes out, he immediately will contact his parents.
00:22:05.000And give them the truth before the lie can reach them because hearing the lie first will shape their perspective of the truth.
00:22:12.000That is to say, I believe it's fair to say, now this is a contentious example because honestly I don't know, that Jim Acosta was trying to, he was holding the mic, he was talking, he wouldn't shut up.
00:23:13.000And then for the first time, he heard Trump say, and not the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
00:23:19.000So information vaccination, getting the info to people before the media can lie about it and falsely frame it.
00:23:25.000Because what's happening now, especially with the immigration stuff, The members of Congress who have gotten—who are threatened with arrests for physically—you see this lady close fist punch an ICE officer in the arm?
00:23:39.000I mean, you can see in the video, she hits him in the arm.
00:23:44.000CNN's not showing that video, and she's going on TV saying that none of that ever happened, and there's no video of this anyway.
00:23:50.000So what happens now is the liberals are going to say, there's no video, it never happened.
00:23:55.000If you go to them and say, here's a video of them punching, they'll be like, I don't want to see it because you're a liar.
00:23:59.000So you gotta get him that information first.
00:24:01.000I don't know if information vaccine is the best way to try to sell it to people, but...
00:24:24.000He was just like, we got to get more rigorous studies on these vaccines, and he was recommending them.
00:24:28.000And then sure enough, a lot of people were surprised to find out that once he gets in at HHS, he's like, I recommend everybody get the vaccine.
00:24:35.000To be fair, I think his rhetoric has become a lot more pro-vaccine, especially his recent comments on the MMR vaccine, where he's trying to encourage more people to get it.
00:25:03.000But anyway, let's let's let's jump to the next story here.
00:25:07.000Big news from the post millennial federal judge rules.
00:25:10.000Trump admin can use the Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal immigrant gang members.
00:25:15.000The court now leaves it to the political branches of government and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals to decide whether the laws and those executing them, executing them, continue to reflect their will.
00:25:25.000So this is a tremendous victory for Trump.
00:25:28.000It had been stayed effectively, but now Trump is clear to use the AEA to begin deporting.
00:25:47.000I'll give you the argument just for the sake of steelmanning it.
00:25:50.000So I think the concern that people have is not so much whether the executive can do this, but whether he should do this, right?
00:25:57.000Because if you look at the Alien Enemies Act, it specifically contemplates the idea of war or an invasion by some sort of national adversary as a reasons to invoke the Alien Enemies Act, not just because you want to get illegal immigrants out of the country.
00:26:11.000Now, I would counter that the way that Trump is looking at this is, okay, Trenderagua and some of these gangs, they're actually sponsored by the Venezuelan government.
00:26:20.000But they don't have to be governmental.
00:26:26.000Alien Enemies Act covers any organized group.
00:26:29.000Any organized group, but it's like a nation-sponsored one.
00:26:34.000So it's an interpretive act at the end of the day, and the concern is how he is choosing to interpret.
00:26:40.000That said, I think it's healthy to just say, hey, this is actually not the role of the judiciary to decide what the interpretation the executive branch applies to acts like this should be.
00:26:50.000Because if we do that, then what we have is a bunch of unelected judges deciding what the executive branch's policy should be.
00:26:56.000And that's just not sustainable whether you like the executive branch or not.
00:27:00.000And the check on the executive branch is supposed to be voting.
00:27:03.000Not judges blocking everything that they do because of policy disagreements.
00:27:07.000So I think there's a healthy check on the judiciary and it's long overdue.
00:27:14.000The laws in our country have been abused for so long.
00:27:18.000So, for example, illegal aliens have been abusing our laws and abusing our ways of deporting them.
00:27:24.000Democrats have also been obstructing different laws in the way that we are trying to deport them.
00:27:30.000So I understand that you think that he's, or at least your argument is saying that he's kind of trying to push the bounds of what this law is saying to try to achieve his goals.
00:27:38.000But I don't blame him for doing that, given the current political climate and political situation that we're in right now.
00:27:45.000Illegal immigrants feel free to break the laws of our country.
00:27:49.000Our executive actions aren't deporting the immigrants such that we don't have the means to do it in our law system.
00:27:56.000So I think that's why he's resorting to different plans like this.
00:27:59.000And I mean, frankly, if the ends justify the means here, and this is an effective way of getting Trente Aragua terrorists out of our country, then...
00:29:09.000Deep in the fucking annals here to find out what kind of clause could they use to deal with this situation.
00:29:17.000And it speaks to, as you said a lot, the fact that we have an environment that has been so disregarding of the law that now we're going back...
00:29:27.000Hundreds of years to find laws that we can use to enforce a law.
00:29:33.000There's so many also different laws on our country's books that if you want to find a law that will help justify whatever political thing that you're trying to achieve, I'm sure you could find it in the hundreds of years of history in our Constitution.
00:29:45.000And then again, it feels as though so many different people in our political class aren't even following the laws.
00:29:52.000So that's why I was confused, because I thought that it could be any invasion.
00:29:56.000So it says, "...been enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America and Congress assembled, that whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion, shall be perpetrated, attempt, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event.
00:30:13.000All native citizens, denizens, are subjects of hostile nations or government, being males of the age of 14 years upwards, who shall be within the United States." So it says, It is, let's see, it's interesting.
00:30:30.000I guess the interesting interpretation is it says whenever there's a war or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated.
00:30:36.000I think the fact that it's the phrase or the wordage, you know, predatory invasion, that's...
00:30:44.000That really does classify what's going on.
00:30:46.000The federal government, you know, the Biden administration really just ignored the law and it was such a dramatic consequence that you have to do something like this to solve the problem.
00:31:02.000To have that many people come into the United States in such a short amount of time and have no intention of assimilating to the lifestyle and the culture of the U.S. And I think it's important that the current administration do something to fix the damage that was done.
00:31:20.000It's so fascinating how we're kind of choosy with which laws we decide to enforce or not.
00:31:25.000It's also illegal in our country to employ illegal immigrants.
00:31:28.000I'm looking at the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.
00:31:31.000I don't think illegal immigrants are having any trouble actually finding legal business, too, because we want them on our farms to work there legally, as I understand.
00:31:39.000I actually asked Stephen Miller about this, and he said that, you know, we're actually doing a lot more work site enforcement.
00:31:49.000I understand, you know, illegals can't work legally at companies, but there's still millions of illegals in our country working at these different companies, and we just choose not to enforce the law here.
00:31:59.000Sanctuary cities, we choose not to enforce the law here.
00:32:01.000I'm sure there's a ton of other things, not only on immigration here, but that's the fascinating thing.
00:32:06.000When it comes to stuff like employing illegal immigrants, we've talked about that here.
00:32:14.000The federal government should absolutely just expropriate your property.
00:32:18.000If you've been found to knowingly and intentionally hire illegal immigrants because you're trying to skirt tax law or whatever law, the government should take your business from you.
00:32:28.000So just to clarify everything we've gone through, we were all correct.
00:32:32.000The arguments, as you're saying, Kaizen, is that these people are state-sponsored.
00:32:36.000Venezuela is effectively releasing them from the prisons and then sending them our way, which constitutes an incursion or predatory invasion.
00:32:42.000It doesn't need to be that we are declared at war with Venezuela, just that Venezuela is sponsoring an incursion or predatory invasion, which Trump has declared, and that's why the court has ruled this does align with the Alien Enemies Act.
00:32:55.000I think also part of what the Trump administration is trying to achieve here is actually a little bit of fear in those who are considering making the trip to immigrate here illegally.
00:33:05.000So that's why he wants to show like...
00:33:06.000If you come here, you're a gangster, you come here illegally and break the law, you might be sent to a different prison in El Salvador, a brutal prison, if you're willing to do those illegal actions in our country.
00:33:17.000Part of the reason why we should come down on business is because we want people that are here illegally to leave of their own volition.
00:33:24.000Because it's difficult to do all of the due process stuff that we're supposed to do.
00:33:29.000Even just having everybody go through the normal administrative process is a ton of manpower and a ton of time.
00:33:37.000The more difficult you make it for people to stay here illegally, the better it is for the country.
00:33:41.000Because you don't have to have jackboot thugs, which is one of the things the left is terrified of.
00:33:46.000If you make it exceedingly difficult for illegal immigrants to stay here, to work here, just to do their day-to-day business of their life here, have them leave...
00:34:00.000And it's better for the illegal immigrants, because then they don't have to get arrested.
00:34:03.000Then they don't have to get, you know, maybe roughed up from the cops.
00:34:06.000It's better for the communities that they live in, because you don't have police going and, you know, getting into interactions with the population.
00:34:13.000Because any time the police get into interactions with the population, there is the possibility of some kind of tension, possibly a crime, you know, possibly someone gets into a fight with the cops.
00:34:33.000And I don't think anyone wants to see masked ICE stormtroopers busting into homes and kicking, screaming women and children out of their homes.
00:35:13.000Now, $1,000 is probably not enough, but if it costs us $17,000 to do this by force, and it costs us less than $17,000 to incentivize someone to just leave of their own accord, on their own timing, to the country of their choice, let's do that so that we can have a situation where, yes, we're treating people humanely, and we're also sustaining the community that people want to come to, because the reason that they want to come here is because we enforce the law.
00:39:01.000President Trump had a lot of different initiatives to try to get more support from the black community.
00:39:06.000He's more successful in doing it with black men than black women.
00:39:08.000Can you tell me a little bit more about, you know, the pushback you got in your community and are you seeing more of them become Republican and Trump fans?
00:39:26.000Also, I realized that it wasn't even about what I was saying.
00:39:29.000It was just about what people's beliefs were.
00:39:31.000And that's where the pushback was coming from.
00:39:33.000Because I wasn't shy about my opinions, obviously, because I shared them online.
00:39:37.000And at first I was scared, like, okay, what if I miss something and he is a secret white supremacist and he is trying to put us back in chains and all of this stuff.
00:39:44.000And consistently the arguments that I saw were emotional arguments.
00:39:50.000And actually one of the interesting things is...
00:39:52.000I think this political awakening that I had and many other people are having is only possible now.
00:39:57.000Because with AI and social media and these tools, we can actually process a lot of information and process out the nonsense and get to the truth ourselves.
00:40:06.000Whereas before, we were reliant on these single points of failure in the media.
00:40:11.000So yeah, I got pushed back and I went through my own journey with it.
00:40:14.000But honestly, what I also saw was a lot of people come out of the woodwork and say, I'm so glad you're saying this because I was thinking it and was afraid to say it.
00:40:42.000He was friends with Nelson Mandela and Mike Tyson and Michael Jackson.
00:40:46.000Like, this whole Trump is a white supremacist thing was very new.
00:40:49.000It only happened after he got into politics.
00:40:51.000So I just encourage people to, like, look back in your memory banks and wonder, when did you start believing this stuff anyway, and why?
00:40:58.000Because if Trump didn't get into politics, I think he would still just be the apprentice guy, the picture of the American dream, and someone that people looked up to, like before.
00:41:05.000But has his efforts been paying off in the black community, you think?
00:41:48.000I want to ask about something more specific than the DEI because in the way it manifests, because I wanted to have something tangible here, like affirmative action.
00:41:54.000So, for example, some black people have argued that it's actually harmful.
00:41:58.000I feel like Thomas Sowell's actually argued that.
00:42:03.000Clarence Thomas actually wrote about this in his book that when he went to college and when he went to law school, he believed that everybody looked at him differently because he thought that everybody only thought he was there as a result of affirmative action.
00:42:14.000But others say that no, black people were dispossessed and they actually needed this leg up and statistically couldn't compete as well and were underrepresented in a lot of these colleges and in positions of power and wealth.
00:42:27.000So do you understand those two arguments?
00:42:35.000So I'm in this interesting position because a lot of the black people who are supposed to be getting help by these policies are not first generation immigrants.
00:42:43.000They're descendants from slaves way back.
00:42:46.000Me, I don't have that trauma in my lineage.
00:42:48.000I don't see any reason why I need affirmative action.
00:42:51.000But in America, it's like, oh, well, you're black, so you need to leg up.
00:42:54.000So when I went to Harvard, it's like...
00:42:57.000I like to think I would have gotten in no matter what, but I don't know.
00:43:00.000Did you have some imposter syndrome and feel as though others didn't think you belonged there as a result of affirmative action in DEI?
00:44:01.000But a lot of these policies, they sound good on their face, but they actually have a psychological impact or a very tangible impact that's quite I guess, do you think you'd have a different perspective if you were an African descendant of slaves as opposed to an African migrant, a first generation African migrant from Africa now?
00:44:19.000I might, but then the question would be, okay, well, why aren't we spending as much effort on the starting line for black Americans as we are on the finish line?
00:44:27.000Why is it that when someone is 18, they're just artificially shoved into an employment role or an admissions role that they just don't have as good qualifications at, rather than in K-12, we're making sure that we're giving kids good education in inner-city schools, or making sure that they're not being exposed to environmental toxins that are retarding their development.
00:45:02.000They're trying to drag people who can't run across the finish line instead of...
00:45:07.000Going to the beginning when everyone's training and make sure everybody's got that training program and that access so that they can run on their own merit.
00:45:15.000And then at the end of the day, what happens?
00:45:16.000It actually just breeds more racial resentment.
00:45:19.000Because now you have in schools, and you know, Harvard just went through this.
00:45:23.000They just had to, you know, they're still fighting over affirmative action.
00:45:26.000But you have, you know, Asian kids or Jewish kids or white kids who feel like, okay, well, I didn't cause these initial starting conditions that my black and brown peers are dealing with.
00:45:37.000But now I don't have anything to do except give them my spot.
00:45:50.000So the solution to discrimination is equality.
00:45:52.000Not saying, oh, because this group was discriminated against, we need to discriminate against this other group to get something back to them.
00:46:01.000So the only way to stop this is with principled approaches and figure out, hey, how do we give the people who need the help the help that they need in the ways that they actually need it early?
00:47:13.000So, if you think about the history of South Africa, it being under an apartheid system, where I think it is 80% of the population that are black Africans only own 4% of the land.
00:47:25.000That is because they were put in shanty towns and moved into areas where they had no rights.
00:47:33.000And so, 35, 30 plus years ago, they went through a revolution, the apartheid system ended.
00:47:42.000And they reformed their constitution under the great leader of Nelson Mandela, and that allowed for a racial reconciliation, one that this country has yet to do.
00:47:53.000South Africa did it, and they reformed their constitution.
00:47:55.000And part of that is that the people who are native to that land deserve their rightful land back.
00:48:01.000That is not what the Afrikaners actually want to have happen, which are the white Africans, and so who are not originally from Africa, who colonized South Africa also.
00:48:13.000And so that is what they are saying is discrimination.
00:48:16.000Now, if the Constitution in South Africa is discriminatory, they have their checks and balances in that land, just like we do.
00:48:31.000If there was actually a genocide happening, like there is in other places in Sudan, in the Congo, I'm not opposed for Congolese.
00:48:53.000So here's, just to address her point, these people, she says, could go back to their ancestral homeland.
00:48:58.000You know what's really fascinating is, I look at everything we're dealing with, the solutions proposed and the mechanisms put in place by Democrats, and my only conclusion is, wow, these Democrats are racist.
00:49:11.000If the worldview of the left is decolonized, what does that produce?
00:49:16.000Honestly, if she's saying white people go back to Germany, okay, so all the white people go back to Europe, all the black people go back to Africa, ethno-literal nations of segregation, that's what they're advocating for.
00:49:28.000And then I'm thinking about, what are they doing here?
00:49:30.000They're opening the floodgates so that unskilled labor can flood into this country.
00:49:36.000It will create competition among the low-skilled base of most white, most poor people in this country, not white, but most poor people in this country are white.
00:49:44.000Because white people are the majority of the country.
00:49:46.000You then bring in a whole bunch of people from Central and South America and even some in Africa who are going to compete against those people and you will create racism.
00:49:56.000I think that's what they want to have happen.
00:50:02.000Working from an ideologically leftist position, then yes.
00:50:06.000Because there is no longer revolutionary energy in the working class.
00:50:12.000This is all Herbert Marcuse from the 50s.
00:50:16.000Because capitalism delivers the goods, capitalism gives a good life to people.
00:50:21.000There was no more revolutionary energy in the working class, so what they needed to do was they needed to go to the—this is Mark Hughes talking—they needed to go to the ghettos and get people that were the racial minorities and have those people basically stoke racial tensions to get them— To engage in revolutionary activities in the United States, because capitalism works.
00:50:40.000This lady from CNN is so dishonest, and that's because she's saying something that I don't think she actually believes.
00:50:47.000She doesn't think that people, if you think there's genocide happening in the country, that you should go back to your country.
00:51:04.000These Afrikaners have been there for hundreds of years.
00:51:07.000So for the black people who have been here for hundreds of years and have been oppressed, right, and undermined and been treated as second-class citizens, she wouldn't tell them, oh, just go back to Africa.
00:51:44.000The end result of what she's talking about is ethnostates, which is something that the left...
00:51:53.000What consistently says is a terrible thing.
00:51:55.000Part of the reason why they hate Israel is because they say Israel is an ethnostate and ethnostates are bad.
00:52:01.000Well, if ethnostates are bad, then why are you telling people to go back to their countries of origin and why are you only doing it to white people?
00:52:10.000Because you don't hear them telling people of color to go back to their countries of origin.
00:52:15.000Unfortunately, I think she makes a really bad argument and she could make a much better argument here, which is that, hey, okay, Let's say that...
00:52:23.000We consider it a moral imperative as Americans to protect these people who are being racially persecuted in South Africa, which I believe is happening.
00:52:31.000I do believe that there's anti-white discrimination in South Africa.
00:52:33.000There's this video of the leader of the third most popular party in South Africa literally saying, kill all the boars, which is white farmers.
00:52:41.000Oh, that video of them in that stadium.
00:52:43.000So I don't know, obviously, the intimate details of what's going on in South Africa, but I take it at face value when they say that something is going on.
00:52:49.000Maybe not a white genocide, but something is going on.
00:52:56.000I think the argument she should be making is, okay, well, let's protect people consistently who are dealing with racial persecution in their land.
00:53:03.000Because this is happening in Ethiopia.
00:53:05.000It's happening in China, the Uyghur Muslims.
00:53:08.000It's happening, I think it's happening in Afghanistan with the Hazara.
00:53:11.000Yeah, it's happening all over the place.
00:53:13.000And what I don't like about this is Trump not making a transparency policy and principled stance on, hey, we protect...
00:53:21.000People who are being persecuted from anywhere so their doors are open because what he did in January is say, we're not going to open the door to refugees at all.
00:53:29.000Now he's saying this specific group of refugees is being allowed.
00:53:56.000Creating more distrust by not laying out a policy like, hey, we protect people from any kind of racial persecution across planet Earth, not just people who are being targeted because they're white.
00:54:06.000That's the argument she should be making, and instead, she's actually undermining her case.
00:54:10.000I also don't want to beat around the bush here at all.
00:54:12.000I think the reason why people care about this story, the reason why the people care about the track meet stabbing story, the reason why people care about that Shiloh story of the woman yelling the N-word at this child allegedly, is because...
00:54:25.000It's a black and white issue, and people are using this to stoke racial tension, and that's why it's extra sensationalized.
00:56:59.000Obviously it didn't start with Carmelo, but in recent memory it started with Carmelo and then Shiloh and now this, right?
00:57:05.000And I think what is happening is we're seeing this discriminatory loop play out where black people have felt discriminated against historically, which is obviously the case.
00:57:16.000And in response, a lot of the left has been trying to...
00:57:21.000Deal with that discrimination by discriminating against other groups.
00:57:25.000So now white people have felt discriminated against and when they see that black people are allowed to say and do whatever we want and say that Carmelo is somehow just acting in self-defense and he deserves a million dollars for his legal fund and not also simultaneously saying, hey, he killed a kid and that's just morally bad irrespective of color, then of course white people are going to...
00:57:50.000I think you could even, it goes back so far, but a case that comes to mind was, even in the OJ case, the black community refuses to acknowledge the guilt of OJ Simpson and black people writ large were happy to see him get off, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that he should have been found guilty.
00:58:11.000Black people aren't unique with their in-group preferences.
00:58:13.000What we get from the left is you had this liberal society in the United States, and I mean that in a philosophical sense, where a bunch of white people were like, we don't want to be racist.
00:58:26.000And so the norms of this country were largely like, yeah, racism is bad, don't do that.
00:58:31.000Then you had, with the OJ case, black individuals who were collectively black.
00:58:36.000Meaning they found identity, identitarian, as it were, that their political ideas were rooted in their race.
00:58:45.000What the woke left does is they tell these people white people are all secretly white supremacists and they're doing everything to hold you back so that they can inflame the identitarian conflict.
00:58:56.000For whatever reason, I don't know, I think they're largely racist.
00:58:58.000And if you trace the history of the Democratic Party, you might be shocked to find.
00:59:20.000People actually interact with each other like, oh, okay, this is like a person.
00:59:23.000Because racism is fundamentally about dehumanization.
00:59:26.000But instead, what we do is we cancel people for anything that even has a whiff of not even racism, but any kind of racial preference at all.
00:59:51.000It's not okay to dehumanize people on the other side of your preference.
00:59:55.000But let's make sure we have distinctions between the two so we're not calling everything racism because you can't actually spot racism when it's actually happening.
01:00:02.000The things I have heard Catholics say of Protestants, oh boy.
01:01:25.000In the black community in Chicago, the top...
01:01:28.000Three candidates, I think four or five, were all black, even though most of those people they were voting for were nowhere near frontrunners.
01:01:36.000So there was this one white dude who was expected to be likely one of the winners.
01:01:44.000The white areas, not the suburbs, but the white areas of Chicago that are, you know, not just generally white, voted for the white guy.
01:01:51.000The only neighborhood that didn't was Loyola, which is where the university was, and it's largely white, and it voted for Brandon Johnson, putting him over the edge.
01:02:01.000This is a city where no one actually cared about the policies of the individual or what the city was going to build.
01:02:08.000All they cared about was the person who was in charge was the same race as them.
01:02:15.000I'm sure you guys saw it, where he was...
01:02:19.000Chastising black men for not voting for Kamala and saying that, oh, she grew up like you.
01:02:24.000It was incredibly condescending because the implication was, hey, you should vote for this person because they look like you, not because they'll do right by you.
01:02:35.000When you're this tribal, you actually will do things that self-sabotage merely because someone looks like you, which is ridiculous.
01:02:42.000So, yeah, I think, look, we need to acknowledge the reality of this discrimination in both directions here.
01:02:47.000And in order to stop the discrimination, we have to focus on equality, not promoting people who are in some sort of underprivileged class that we've now elevated to privilege because they've been oppressed more.
01:02:58.000I want to jump to this clip from the Joe Rogan experience.
01:03:32.000It's crazy, but it's just like, you can't just go on narratives, because these narratives are just designed to make the Trump administration look like monsters.
01:03:42.000I was giving an interview to this woman from the New York Times.
01:03:46.000And she's like, well, don't you see this?
01:03:47.000And I was like, I do see it, and I don't understand it, and I wish it would be different.
01:03:50.000But then you get into the lesser evils.
01:03:52.000I wrote her back and I was like, I don't agree with my previous position based on the current information available to me now.
01:04:00.000Yeah, it seems like he was a gang member.
01:04:01.000But then there was that gay hairdresser that seems like he just got roped up.
01:04:06.000And what I have learned so far, because I've really been trying to get to the bottom of that one, because I don't understand why the left isn't leaning on that one.
01:04:13.000The other guy beats his wife, suspected trafficker.
01:04:34.000So, breaking this down, the one thing I'll say is, you know, I will clarify, just in case I spoke poorly, my argument on the gay hairdresser was that if he entered the country illegally through the southern border— With the intention of falsely claiming asylum so he could just be an economic migrant here, that would be fraud.
01:05:18.000What I found fascinating with this clip is it has been 10 years of the Trump era, and still to this day, Joe, and I mean this with no disrespect, of all people, read the news and thought it was true that this guy was just from Maryland.
01:05:35.000That was the purpose of the Maryland man hoax.
01:05:37.000So the two things that I wanted to get out on this one with this segment, the reason why I want to talk about this, guys, their strategy, the Maryland man hoax, was working.
01:05:46.000They were convincing people that this guy, like, I'm going to say again, you know, Phil, I think you asked this earlier in the show, if, like, the left just believes crazy things, you have that, right?
01:07:17.000My argument is, like, the reason why we deport these people is they illegally enter the country through the southern border, then afterwards try and falsely claim asylum when they don't actually need it.
01:07:27.000If he came from Venezuela and was in Mexico, Mexico's awesome.
01:08:21.000My point being, this Venezuelan guy who travels from Venezuela through Central America, through Mexico, All these countries claiming, oh, I'm being persecuted in my home country.
01:09:34.000This whole worldview is self-defeating and no one is actually responsible for their own decision.
01:09:39.000If you're a criminal, it's probably because you're just disadvantaged.
01:09:42.000You're not responsible for anything if you had bad starting conditions.
01:09:46.000Yeah, I think it's very strange, and I think Jillian correctly observed, yeah, why are they rallying around this guy when they have a better alternative right next to him?
01:09:54.000So I think it's actually a political strategy to try to pick one of the worst peoples, to try to open up the Overton window as far as you can go.
01:10:02.000I think for the gay hairdresser, it might have been too simple of an issue.
01:10:06.000For this other guy, they were trying to really have people sympathize with a gang member, but that really widens the Overton window and allows them to do more.
01:10:53.000Then when the news breaks that he's a criminal, which the Democrats and the prominent liberals want to happen, they then say it's not about whether he's a criminal.
01:11:02.000Like you said, it's about due process.
01:11:04.000The liberals will tribally then double down and say it is fine.
01:11:08.000And this will shift the Overton window towards we must protect MS-13 gang members because they deserve rights like everybody else.
01:11:23.000So it's just like, you know, so they'll try to use this ambiguity.
01:11:26.000Oh, his girlfriend or wife at the time called the police because maybe he beat him or beat her or something.
01:11:31.000So, yeah, I think it strikes in the face.
01:11:33.000So I think it's, again, a kind of way, a political strategy.
01:11:37.000And it's because it's not even for when the left tries to say that police also will kill unarmed black men.
01:11:46.000They'll pick like the worst cases or picked armed black men to show them killing to try to perpetuate this narrative.
01:11:54.000It's an interesting theory, and I don't know if I have to push back or just comment on something you just said, because I'm not sure what you actually believe on this.
01:13:42.000And I'm seeing on Twitter, on X, liberals will be like, why aren't they getting due process?
01:13:46.000And they'll say, I'll see a response from a conservative guy being like, illegal immigrants shouldn't get trials.
01:13:50.000And I'm like, you're arguing two different things.
01:13:53.000The legal and fair process by which a person goes through our legal system to determine whether they're right, wrong, deportable, or criminal is due process.
01:14:34.000An ICE agent will review their status, determine if they're a citizen, and if not, and if they've been here less than two years, expedited removal.
01:14:48.000It's a linguistic trap that I see many conservatives falling into where they're arguing that due process is not due when they need to argue, no, due process is being served and this is what's due process in this case.
01:15:00.000And the argument for like, okay, how are we going to remove 10 to 20 million people in the country?
01:15:04.000We can give them all due process and due process might mean a day in court rather than this years long thing that we have to do that makes it impossible to...
01:15:16.000We shouldn't give trials to every illegal immigrant.
01:15:19.000The media then came out and said Trump is trying to deny due process to illegal immigrants because they want to shift the Overton window and convince you that we cannot deport a person without a trial.
01:15:43.000The media misrepresents what he's saying so that they can try and make the argument that it is normal for all illegal immigrants, all the time, everywhere, to get a trial with a judge.
01:16:02.000And, you know, having gone through all of this and even gone through debates, there are a bunch of different ways that individuals get different degrees of due process.
01:16:11.000If you've been here longer than two years, you get a hearing.
01:16:14.000If you're being deported under the Alien Enemies Act, which Trump just won that court case, the judge sided with him.
01:16:21.000She still said, if a person is to be deported under AEA, they can challenge it.
01:16:26.000That's one of the reasons why Trump was trying to avoid using AEA in some circumstances.
01:16:31.000Because Alien Enemies Act deportation says you are an invader of this country to which they can say, oh yeah, prove it.
01:16:38.000Whereas if Trump just says we've reviewed your citizenship and you are ineligible to be in the United States so you're being deported, they don't get a hearing.
01:16:46.000I think there is also something to say about the amount of illegal immigrants that we have in our country isn't going to be able to be handled by the way we currently have our laws set up.
01:16:56.000The current system was not set up to be able to give whatever level of due process or however we were going to break it down to 20 million people.
01:17:17.000Due process just means what is fair under the law.
01:17:19.000We always, in this country, 100% of the time, seek to give people what is fair under the law.
01:17:24.000Only when there's malicious prosecution or errors do people not get what's fair under the law.
01:17:29.000There was never a circumstance by which Trump was going to give people less due process.
01:17:33.000We will always, 100% of the time, as a country, functionally give illegal immigrants their due process.
01:17:40.000Because illegal immigrants abused our immigration laws so aggressively, I think we need to change the way, legally, how we do due process for some of these illegal migrants.
01:17:50.000But we don't, because due process is already a subjective thing.
01:17:54.000Like, we got to choose what we consider a fair...
01:17:56.000Hearing, trial, it can be more than that.
01:17:58.000So I think what Tim is saying is there's not levels of due process.
01:18:13.000We can give everyone a fair process, but a fair process for, I don't know, tax evasion might look different than a fair process for entering the country illegally.
01:18:22.000And I do think we need to change something about the courts in order to process this many people who are here illegally.
01:18:27.000But I think it's actually just expand the capacity of the courts.
01:19:16.000And I think it's important because it's crazy how the left is using this.
01:19:20.000The reason why I'm harping on it so much, and I know it might just be semantics, is because the left is using exactly what you're saying.
01:19:26.000They're going to clip what you said and said, here's a conservative saying, let's do process.
01:19:31.000And then they're going to go to their fans and they're going to say, they're literally saying that they're not going to treat you fairly under the law.
01:19:37.000That they're going to create special classes of citizens who get special treatment.
01:20:22.000Let's jump to this next story from the Postmillennial.
01:20:26.000Bud Light parent company to invest $300 million to manufacture in the U.S. This new $300 million investment in our manufacturing facilities across the U.S. Will it work?
01:20:38.000That's not going to fix Dylan Mulvaney.
01:22:31.000You know, they say that civilization owes everything to beer because it was the humans that stopped to ferment the wheat and the barley and stuff to make beer that resulted in...
01:22:42.000Agrarian society and civilization and towns.
01:23:36.000So that way my inhibitions are, I'm not so self-conscious, my inhibitions are a little bit lower and I can go talk to people and I can, you know, hang out with people.
01:25:06.000It's this kind of rhetoric that doesn't have compassion for either side and treats the man always as some sort of toxic aggressor and always the woman is completely abnegating all responsibility.
01:25:18.000Well, it treats women as if they're consistently, you know, things are happening to them as opposed to actually having any kind of agency.
01:25:28.000But as soon as they want to have agency, of course, they have to be, you know, looked at as a strong woman that can, you know, boss bitch kind of thing.
01:25:36.000But then in any context in which they don't want to deal with their repercussions, and society really encourages this kind of behavior, but any situation where women don't want to deal with the repercussions, well, then they were victims.
01:25:50.000They were somehow put in this position.
01:25:56.000But if you just awkwardly ask a woman out...
01:26:11.000Like you mentioned, you're risking your reputation.
01:26:14.000You're risking all kinds of social repercussions.
01:26:18.000And that's the way that women punish people and each other is through social interactions.
01:26:24.000And so the value for a man to young men to go and actually ask women out, it's a really, really dicey proposal.
01:26:32.000And they're deciding that porn and video games is...
01:26:38.000Better than risking being embarrassed.
01:26:40.000Considering that millennials are only just now having kids and it's still at very low rates and Gen Z is not having kids either, Gen Beta is probably going to be 30 million.
01:26:54.000Gen Alpha is 40. Some say it could go upwards of 48 maybe if we add another year or two to the bracket.
01:27:01.000But then Gen Beta is going to be microscopic.
01:27:36.000I am somebody who is pro-choice, but I think there's something to be reckoned with about the consequences of giving women such easy access to be able to control their ability to reproduce.
01:27:48.000So 20 years ago, teen pregnancy used to be everywhere.
01:27:51.000Teen pregnancy used to be a huge thing.
01:27:53.000They used to have a show on MTV, Teen Mom, I think it was.
01:27:59.000All the young women, all women in their teens are on birth control if they are having sex.
01:28:05.000And if they do get pregnant or aborting their kids or they don't even have to have a surgical procedure, they could just use the abortion pill or Mifepristone, which the Trump administration recently struck down a lawsuit to help restrict.
01:28:19.000So, while being pro-choice, I still understand that there are consequences to abortion and access to abortion pills and contraceptives have on birth rates.
01:28:30.000I know that's so obvious to say, but still, I think we need to look at from a bird's eye view, if that makes sense.
01:28:37.000Like, women's ability to stop themselves from getting pregnant affects birth rates.
01:28:49.000I was going to say real quick, the point of the pencil thing I was bringing up is that when the population shrinks, our ability to produce technologies goes with it.
01:28:56.000So you're not going to have PlayStation.
01:29:00.000The less people there are, the closer you're going to get to working on a farm.
01:31:41.000Then they realize they don't even want to do that when they're age 30. And yeah, birth control, which they're taking from the time that they get a period, It's distorting who they're even attracted to, so they're not attracted to masculine men anymore, and it's teaching women that having a child is the end of your life, when no, it's the beginning of another.
01:31:58.000So yeah, there's this very insidious thing that's going on with this.
01:32:04.000It's a thing behind wokeism, which is extinctionism, really, in my mind.
01:32:09.000You know, having a kid recently, I think the pro-life side is really bad at articulating.
01:32:18.000They can't communicate effectively with liberals.
01:32:21.000And I saw this – did you see this Charlie Kirk debate on abortion that went viral recently because the guy said he thinks that life doesn't begin until consciousness forms?
01:32:30.000And then Charlie says, so you'd be fine if you were six months, the baby being killed?
01:33:23.000What the left then does is they argue that for the first three months, babies can't actually form any real memories and they don't talk, they don't do anything.
01:33:44.000My daughter doesn't use words, but she's talking.
01:33:47.000And so in the past week or so, she started communicating vocally as she was already communicating non-vocally, but I wouldn't call it verbally.
01:36:35.000Somebody, someone mentioned, someone, this is an argument somebody made, that history, human society and gender norms was men building fences around their home to protect their women and their children.
01:38:26.000College parties, there's men and women looking to hook up.
01:38:28.000No, I think men and women are different, I guess is my point, and they behave different socially, and there's social consequences to that, if that makes any sense.
01:39:08.000And again, I'm not saying that there's any law-breaking, but I think we should acknowledge men and women are different and play different roles.
01:39:48.000It's a project that I've been working on for a very, very, very, very short amount of time that you're going to enjoy and I'll get in trouble for.
01:40:17.000We still sell Sleepy Joe decaf at Casper.com.
01:40:22.000Concrete Hades says, Elad, the white thing on the table may have been a snot rag, but there are videos of basically everyone in that meeting repeatedly wiping their noses as if they had just recently snorted a line.
01:40:53.000And again, it's the people who are advancing this stuff who you might need to ask yourself, oh, can I trust this person when he tweets stuff out, if he's willing to put forth such obviously wrong things?
01:41:04.000Does this person have my best interest in mind?
01:41:26.000I would love to be chilling at a ball game right now.
01:41:28.000You see those things where they have the cup and then the straw goes, there's like a little dish that goes on top of the cup and it's got like nachos and like a hot dog on it.
01:41:58.000You can go see the Dodgers when they come through to play the Nationals, or the Red Sox, or the Yankees when they come through to play the Nationals.
01:42:06.000We've been talking about trying to do a big thing with everybody for a while, but we should never get around to it because we're so busy all the time.
01:42:11.000I work mornings and nights, so how am I supposed to go to a baseball game during the week?
01:42:15.000I'm not a big baseball fan, but I've been to a few games, and it's all about chilling in the stands with the boys, getting drunk, casually watching.
01:43:41.000And then Gen Beta is going to be the same thing.
01:43:43.000So I'm kind of thinking maybe the reason that the ultra-wealthy are building these bunkers is not because the poles are going to shift, not because of climate change, but because they're not going to be able to manufacture video games, antiseptics.
01:44:15.000These are, I believe these are, what, LEDs?
01:44:19.000The only, if trends continue, the only hope is that there's actual automation, like actual humanoid robots.
01:44:28.000That are, you know, you can have, like, AI teachers.
01:44:33.000You know, think about how sad that's going to be.
01:44:35.000You know, maybe that's a good, you know, I say this all the time, we gotta get a producer to help us make these short films, because I got, you know, the short film idea I got right now is The Last Human, and it's just all these AI machines watching one guy who's dying, and he gives a thumbs up as it, like, plugs his brain into the VR for one last time.
01:44:54.000Because where we're going is, yeah, sure, great, we're gonna automate all this production.
01:45:46.000Maybe what ends up happening, maybe the Tesla robot doing the dances.
01:45:50.000Maybe the answer to Fermi's paradox is that...
01:45:53.000Any sufficiently advanced species, the wealthiest, will go into behavioral sync, destroy themselves, and then the lesser developed parts of that species will just lose all technology and then revert back to natural states.
01:46:08.000The great filter is much lower than we think.
01:46:12.000The great filter is an extinction event.
01:46:14.000Yeah, but we wouldn't be able to get past to the first level even because we won't be able to get off the planet because of the population crash once.
01:46:21.000The filter's not so much that humans go extinct, but that wealthy humans stop reproducing.
01:46:26.000Or wealthy, like, advanced elements of the species engage in behavioral sync.
01:48:30.000I think there's a lot of racial tension in this country and it would be dishonest to tell you otherwise.
01:48:35.000I mean, I'd wish for it to be different and I wish no people were bigoted towards each other, but I feel like that's just denying the facts of our...
01:49:28.000I went with my brother, and he was sitting next to a Japanese person on a train, and he saw the Japanese person send a racist meme of a black person to their friend.
01:50:15.000Segregation did not end with the Civil Rights Act, and there still is segregation.
01:50:20.000So the important thing to understand is we've codified against it, but it still happens.
01:50:25.000So blockbusting and redlining were happening into the 80s.
01:50:29.000So that was the intentional actions of market industries in the housing market to make sure that whites and blacks were segregated, not in the bathrooms geographically.
01:50:41.000So they were still saying, okay, if we can't keep you out of our business, we'll just move you so far away from the business, you can't show up anyway to create white neighborhoods and black neighborhoods.
01:52:21.000I gotta read this one because, again, guys, the reason why I went over the issue of due process often is because people can't comprehend it.
01:52:29.000I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean to anybody, but people literally can't comprehend what due process means.
01:52:34.000Again, they think it's like a Latin phrase that implies a court trial.
01:52:38.000Mark Clancy says, why would there be any reason to give due process?
01:52:41.000They are not being sentenced to prison.
01:52:51.000Stop thinking of due process as one word and think of due as in what is a person due and what is the process by which we determine whether or not they're allowed to be here.
01:53:00.000The due process would then be like literally saying I walk to the store.
01:53:15.000Okay, so what's a fair process in a civil case versus a criminal case?
01:53:20.000Obviously in a criminal case there's a lot more that has to happen.
01:53:23.000You need to prove that someone did something beyond reasonable doubt.
01:53:26.000You go through a lot more legal proceedings for a criminal case.
01:53:29.000In both civil and criminal cases, we give due process, but what happens that we call due process is different.
01:53:35.000So I think what this gentleman is not understanding is that you can give due process to illegal immigrants, and you have to because that's in the Constitution.
01:53:43.000But the thing that you call due process might be a lot less than you would do if someone, again, cheated on their taxes.
01:53:49.000Just call it the process a person is due.
01:53:52.000Illegal immigrants, what is the process that is due to them?
01:53:56.000Having an ICE agent review their paperwork and kick him out of the country in two hours.
01:54:00.000That is the process that is due to an illegal immigrant who was here for less than two years.
01:55:09.000And that's the actual discussion we should be having, which is what is sufficient due process in this case, not whether we should be assigning due process.
01:55:16.000It's much simpler, and that's the discussion that both sides should be having, but they're not.
01:55:19.000Based African says, I know the story was from yesterday, but I don't think bringing in the African refugees was a good idea.
01:55:24.000There's a pause on accepting refugees and making an exception for white Africans is terrible optics, even if it proved Dems are racist.
01:55:31.000However, Donald Trump signed an executive order in January to pause refugee resettlement.
01:55:36.000However, within a week or two, signed another executive order saying exceptions will be made for South Africans.
01:55:41.000And in the initial order, he did say there were always going to be exceptions.
01:55:45.000The initial order on refugee resettlement said, Largely, we're going to stop refugee resettlement, except in certain circumstances.
01:55:51.000Then, like two weeks later, he said, here's one of those circumstances, white Afrikaners, because of what's going on.
01:55:57.000So, more importantly, a judge stayed those orders, and there is currently no pause on accepting refugees.
01:57:40.000When I was a teenager, I was hanging out at the skate park, and one of the kids who skated there, we were all teenagers, was like, he's like, hey, I invited this girl to come skate with us.
01:57:52.000And so he's like, just be cool, you know, guys, because, like, you know, I want to date her and everything.
01:59:33.000If it's racist, if you're acknowledging that it's racist, why have it to begin with?
01:59:36.000I think even murder should have a sunset.
01:59:39.000Like, literally every 10 years, they should have to go over the bill and then reassess the amount of time they're giving people, where they're, like, what are the general rules and the codification of how murder is handled in this country?
01:59:51.000And when you don't sunset laws, you have Trump able to go back to 1798 for the Aliens Act or whatever to deport people.
02:00:42.000So, for example, let's say black people came out of slavery and for whatever reason were immediately making as much money as white people and just like it's almost as if slavery hadn't happened.
02:00:51.000You wouldn't then go say, well, you still have to give black people something because of something that happened in the past.
02:00:56.000So the actual issue is that people are not giving equal opportunities to thrive in present day.
02:01:02.000And there's a variety of ways you can solve it.
02:01:04.000It doesn't have to be on a racial basis.
02:01:07.000I actually think that reparations need to be paid by the South and the slaves who are freed to the families of people whose ancestors died fighting to free them.
02:01:21.000I don't actually think that, but you can see the argument.
02:01:23.000If you're going to argue that we deserve something from your government, the counter is going to be, okay, well, my great-great-great-grandfather, his brothers, they died to free your ancestors, so what do I get for that?
02:01:36.000My ancestor was left as a widow with no one and was starving and nearly died.
02:02:14.000So, look, I don't mean that literally.
02:02:16.000I just think that we're not going to move forward as a country if everyone's trying to argue why they're owed something from 200 years ago.
02:03:05.000We're moving paths and trying to build relationships and ties and trade.
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