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00:02:42.000 So we may actually see some strong movements here.

00:02:52.000 We have some other really big news.

00:02:54.000 Donald Trump's administration...

00:02:59.000 He's not arguing, however.

00:03:01.000 The administration isn't just arguing that they should have a right to deport.

00:03:04.000 They're arguing that these universal injunctions are unconstitutional, finally.

00:03:11.000 So that's going to be big.

00:03:11.000 And then, ladies and gentlemen, you know, I don't know how much people actually care about Joe Biden, but according to that book from, what was it, Jake Tapper, I think Alex Thompson, I think the guys were, they're saying that it was actually Discussed by the doctor, by Biden's doctor, that his spine was degenerated to the point where he would need to use a wheelchair.

00:03:32.000 Indeed.

00:03:33.000 And they knew this, and they lied.

00:03:35.000 And Jake Tapper, of all people, is acting like he's shocked by this information.

00:03:40.000 Meanwhile, literally anybody with eyes to see was like, yeah, Joe Biden was ill.

00:03:44.000 So now he's trying to pander and sell his book.

00:03:47.000 We'll talk about that.

00:03:48.000 There's a lot of news today.

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00:06:09.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Kaizen Asiedu.

00:06:13.000 What's up, Tim?

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00:06:14.000 It's going great, man.

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00:06:16.000 My name is Kaizen.

00:06:17.000 I'm a political and cultural commentator.

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00:06:22.000 All right.

00:06:23.000 Well...

00:06:23.000 Thanks for joining us.

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00:06:26.000 Hey, what's up, everybody?

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00:06:32.000 Kaizen, what's up?

00:06:33.000 It's exciting to see you.

00:06:35.000 Excited to get into it with you later today.

00:06:37.000 Phil, how's it going?

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00:06:43.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:44.000 I just want to add one more quick thing.

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00:07:00.000 A special thing for you guys on the uncensored portion of the show.

00:07:03.000 But for now, let's get into the news.

00:07:04.000 We've got this from the New York Times.

00:07:06.000 Wisconsin judge indicted on charges that she helped immigrant evade agents.

00:07:12.000 Judge Hannah C. Dugan was accused of helping an undocumented immigrant elude federal agents who were waiting to arrest him outside her courtroom.

00:07:21.000 They say the Wisconsin judge arrested last month and accused of helping an undocumented, how about illegal immigrant?

00:07:26.000 They say the indictment of Judge Hannah C. Dugan of the Milwaukee County Circuit Court was a routine but significant step in the DOJ's case against her.

00:07:34.000 The Trump administration has defended the prosecution as a warning that no one is above the law.

00:07:40.000 While many Democrats, lawyers, and former judges have denounced it as an assault on the judiciary, Judge Dugan has been temporarily removed from the bench by the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

00:07:48.000 While the case against her advances, has indicated through a lawyer she intends to fight the charges.

00:07:54.000 She's expected to appear in court on Thursday.

00:07:56.000 I gotta be honest, I do not see how she wins.

00:08:00.000 Is she gonna deny that she did this?

00:08:02.000 I mean, they've got cameras in the building, I assume.

00:08:04.000 I'm just happy that she got arrested and actually indicted.

00:08:08.000 This is progress.

00:08:09.000 There was a time where this kind of behavior would be just brushed under the rug.

00:08:15.000 You wouldn't hear about it.

00:08:17.000 And I think those days are gone, and it's a good thing for the United States.

00:08:21.000 Take a look at this.

00:08:22.000 I believe we have the actual indictment here.

00:08:24.000 United States of America v. 0.96

00:08:26.000 Hannah C. Dugan.

00:08:27.000 It says, on or about April 18th, 2025, knowingly concealed EFR, a person whose arrest, a warrant, and press had been issued under the provisions of law of the United States.

00:08:36.000 We've got this other paperwork.

00:08:39.000 Yeah, the grand jury further charges that.

00:08:42.000 So what are they getting on?

00:08:44.000 Did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct, and impede the due and proper administration of the law, under which a pending proceeding was being had before Department and Agency of the United States.

00:08:54.000 We do have, I believe, a photo of the criminal alien who was trying to escape from the New York Post.

00:09:01.000 And then, of course, this video of Hannesie Dugan leaving the courtroom.

00:09:06.000 But she does not give a statement.

00:09:10.000 So, yeah, I have no idea how she thinks she's going to...

00:09:14.000 I mean, it's amazing how in this article they're positioning this as this.

00:09:23.000 Being some sort of prejudicial indictment of Dugan, when if we actually look at what she did, it's pretty straightforward.

00:09:29.000 There was an illegal immigrant in a courtroom.

00:09:31.000 She allowed him to exit through the non-public jury entrance.

00:09:35.000 He tried to run.

00:09:37.000 He literally tried to run away.

00:09:39.000 And then he got tackled after he tried to escape.

00:09:44.000 At her assistance.

00:09:45.000 So this is not political, and I don't see why it needs to be politicized at all.

00:09:49.000 This is not even about a judge doing this.

00:09:51.000 This is about a human being trying to help another human being escape arrest.

00:09:55.000 The fact that the news has centered on her being a judge shows that Democrats expect certain people to be above the law.

00:10:01.000 It's outrageous, too, because I feel like Democrats were reliably telling me for a while that nobody was above the law.

00:10:05.000 And I think it's weird that they're calling it an attack on the judiciary because, again, if judges break the law, there's no reason that they shouldn't be able to be arrested for their crimes.

00:10:13.000 However, I'm sure she knows a lot of good lawyers, seeing that she is a judge. 0.55

00:10:17.000 So she might be able to wiggle her way out of this one.

00:10:20.000 I think they're just counting on people not actually reading what she did and seeing, hey, this person.

00:10:26.000 Trump.

00:10:27.000 I don't like Trump.

00:10:28.000 Trump did this thing to this person.

00:10:29.000 This person's the victim.

00:10:30.000 Trump is the perpetrator.

00:10:31.000 The end.

00:10:32.000 So it's the third, or there's probably more than three, but it's the third that I can recall immigration hoax that we're seeing so far in the Trump administration.

00:10:39.000 First, we had the Maryland man hoax.

00:10:41.000 Then we had the two children, American citizens being deported hoax.

00:10:45.000 And now we have the Wisconsin judge hoax, who is right. 1.00

00:10:49.000 It's an attack on the judiciary.

00:10:50.000 They didn't do anything wrong.

00:10:51.000 There is going to be a political earthquake in this country in 10 years.

00:10:55.000 Because we keep talking about these hoaxes, but who really falls for them?

00:10:58.000 It is the older generation.

00:11:00.000 They're watching CNN, MSNBC.

00:11:02.000 And, you know, at least some of them are watching Fox News.

00:11:04.000 Fox is a pretty good job.

00:11:05.000 Not perfect, but pretty good.

00:11:07.000 In 10 years, when these boomers aren't voting anymore, or not to be crude, I know I say this a bit, but when they're passing on, and these cable networks and these corporate news outlets can't maintain these offices and these companies, The media narrative landscape is going to flip like a glacier. 0.96

00:11:28.000 It's going to be nuts, the political reckoning that we see.

00:11:31.000 Overnight, these hoaxes will be gone.

00:11:34.000 You know, and it's hard for me to blame the public for falling for some of these hoaxes because for the average person, you don't have the time to dig in to every little nuance of every story and you just reliably or think you can reliably read a headline without being misled.

00:11:47.000 But it seems there is a consensus in the media to go along with so many of these immigration hoaxes.

00:11:52.000 Do you guys think that this is the phenomenon of so many people being misled by the establishment media?

00:12:02.000 Do you think that's actually something new because of the digital age?

00:12:05.000 Or do you think that it was just because there are multiple outlets now?

00:12:08.000 Yeah, I don't think there's any such thing as an objective news source.

00:12:11.000 I don't think there ever has been.

00:12:13.000 All news sources are composed of humans.

00:12:14.000 All humans have a perspective.

00:12:15.000 You have a perspective.

00:12:16.000 I have one.

00:12:17.000 We're all subjective.

00:12:18.000 And I think the difference now is because we have an open information environment, we can actually compare what the open information environment is saying versus a single source, and we see the bias.

00:12:28.000 I do think that when Trump arrived on the scene, it became even more polarized because I think the establishment found him so odious that they doubled down on their bias, especially in New York Times.

00:12:38.000 I mean, I used to be on the left, and then my first realization was, oh, wow, the New York Times exclusively reports negative things about Trump.

00:12:45.000 That was the first window into, oh, I thought I'm getting the truth, but I'm getting a new story.

00:12:50.000 I half agree.

00:12:51.000 I want to push back a little bit because I've had this debate on subjectivity and objectivity quite a bit throughout the years in journalism.

00:12:57.000 And I think the bigger question is not whether or not someone has a bias.

00:13:01.000 You can be biased and objective.

00:13:03.000 It just depends on your attachment to the particular story.

00:13:06.000 And then the bigger question is, are you honest?

00:13:08.000 So what we often heard as an excuse for why the corporate press lies is that, well, there's no such thing as objectivity.

00:13:15.000 Everybody has a point of view.

00:13:17.000 Yes, but that doesn't mean you falsely frame the narrative of a story.

00:13:21.000 So the way I describe it to people is, you know, if I'm outside at a diner, And I see two guys get into a brawl, and someone comes up to me and says, what happened?

00:13:32.000 I can be objective.

00:13:33.000 I can say, this guy came up to that guy and took a swing at him.

00:13:36.000 But what if one of the guys was my brother?

00:13:39.000 Right?

00:13:39.000 I can still be honest, but you don't know if you want to trust what I'm saying, because I'm going to be like, that guy attacked my brother.

00:13:46.000 And they're going to be like, okay, well, you know, we hear what you're saying.

00:13:49.000 Maybe he's telling the truth.

00:13:50.000 Maybe he's being objective.

00:13:51.000 I think the bigger issue that we see in politics...

00:13:55.000 The left is lying and the right is being honest.

00:13:58.000 It's not perfect.

00:13:59.000 Sometimes the right gets things wrong and some people on the right do lie.

00:14:01.000 But it's a tendency on the left, or I should say it's a generality on the left and sometimes on the right. 0.97

00:14:08.000 You'll find that there are right-wing grifters trying to make money and they're going to lie and they're going to make AI garbage and whatever they have to do to get money. 0.94

00:14:14.000 On the left, it's every single day. 0.99

00:14:16.000 Every single day.

00:14:18.000 What's the distinction between left and the right in this country?

00:14:20.000 It's not policy.

00:14:21.000 It's not economics.

00:14:22.000 It's not abortion or gay rights.

00:14:25.000 None of that matters.

00:14:26.000 Because I can sit down with Charlie Kirk and have different views on legislating abortion, for instance, but we will be completely honest about the circumstances in this country and the facts.

00:14:38.000 So can Charlie Kirk be objective?

00:14:40.000 I believe he absolutely can.

00:14:41.000 Can I?

00:14:42.000 I think so, too.

00:14:43.000 If we were presented with data and then we looked at it and said, we're going to scrutinize this data.

00:14:47.000 And it said 90-plus percent of abortions are no reason given elective.

00:14:52.000 We will both agree on the terms that that is the true and correct fact.

00:14:55.000 That's objective.

00:14:57.000 Then we'll make an argument about our view and how we legislate to stop something like that from happening.

00:15:02.000 Whereas what the liberals do is they'll crumple up.

00:15:05.000 First, they'll ban you saying statistics are offensive, racist, sexist or otherwise.

00:15:09.000 Then if somehow the information gets out, they'll make up an excuse as to why it's not really...

00:15:13.000 the case.

00:15:14.000 They'll use manipulative phrases like Maryland man to trick you into thinking American citizens are being deported.

00:15:20.000 That's not even a question of subjectivity, objectivity.

00:15:22.000 That is just dishonesty.

00:15:27.000 You want to finish?

00:15:28.000 No, please go ahead.

00:15:28.000 Okay, so I agree with you that right now the left is more detached from reality than the right, and I think the right piece is a higher premium on truth.

00:15:36.000 When I say that everyone is subjective, I don't necessarily mean that people are being dishonest, but the subjectivity gets in when we're talking about narratives, and we're talking about what facts do we focus on, what stories do we focus on.

00:15:48.000 It's a matter of prioritization.

00:15:49.000 So, for example, New York Times, I don't think they're fundamentally dishonest in their reporting of facts.

00:15:56.000 Facts that are true.

00:15:57.000 They don't often say things that are literally untrue.

00:16:03.000 Actually creates a dishonesty that you're talking about.

00:16:05.000 And for the New York Times, which presents itself as just objectively, independently seeking the truth, they're misleading their readers.

00:16:13.000 Because what they're actually doing is they're prosecuting a campaign against Trump, like they have been for the last 10 years, and saying, we're just reporting the news.

00:16:21.000 But they're not just reporting the news.

00:16:22.000 They're reporting a story that they want you to buy into.

00:16:26.000 I think it happens both on the right and the left.

00:16:28.000 I do think that the left seems more committed to prosecuting an agenda than the truth.

00:16:33.000 So I think for them it's like, you know, there's this clip of this woman from NPR saying sometimes the truth gets in the way.

00:16:39.000 And I actually think that was quite revealing because to her it's like, well, we need to do the moral thing even at the expense of the truth.

00:16:45.000 And I think people on the right tend to have a proclivity saying it needs to be the truth first and then morality after that.

00:16:52.000 Real quick, that was an AOC quote as well.

00:16:55.000 She said something about being morally right instead of factually correct.

00:16:59.000 Do you think that part of what we're going through today is that the left believes ridiculous things are the truth, like men can become women and women can become men, and do you think it's that they believe just insane things?

00:17:12.000 Well, I mean, I like to avoid broad categorizations of the left, because there are reasonable people on the left, and I think it's been co-opted by a fringe, but yeah, the people that you're talking about, I think for them, The truth is subjective to them.

00:17:25.000 They don't actually believe fundamentally in the idea of truth.

00:17:29.000 And that's why you hear things like your truth, my truth.

00:17:32.000 There is no your truth or my truth.

00:17:33.000 There's the truth.

00:17:34.000 But this worldview...

00:17:36.000 That equates what you feel passionately about with the truth, and then as a result, yeah, a man is whatever a person feels like as a man.

00:17:44.000 A woman is whatever a person feels like a woman, and it can change them. 1.00

00:17:47.000 I have a quick correction.

00:17:48.000 That video we showed earlier actually was an old video that someone reposted, just so people know.

00:17:52.000 That was right after her first arrest, not the court appearance.

00:17:55.000 So you were talking about the way that you perceived the New York Times.

00:17:59.000 What was it that...

00:18:00.000 Kind of made you say, okay, I actually do have to stop considering myself on the left and I have to rethink my values because that's a big step.

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:09.000 So it was 2020 and I had been a subscriber to the New York Times for probably years at that point.

00:18:14.000 And I was a default Democrat.

00:18:16.000 I'm black.

00:18:16.000 I grew up in New York, moved to LA, worked in tech.

00:18:19.000 I was just in the tribe and I never really thought about it that much.

00:18:22.000 I wasn't that politically engaged.

00:18:25.000 It wasn't that I disagreed with the reporting, but I noticed it's just pattern recognition.

00:18:30.000 I noticed that literally every time I saw a headline about Trump in my inbox, it was negative.

00:18:34.000 And I don't care who you are.

00:18:36.000 If you're always being told negative things about a person, you're probably not getting the whole truth because everyone has something positive to them.

00:18:45.000 And that was the moment when I decided, okay, I'm just going to unsubscribe from the New York Times and disconnect from all this stuff.

00:18:50.000 And then me getting back engaged in politics happened more recently.

00:18:54.000 I wanted to follow up on something that we were talking about a little bit earlier with the dishonesty and lack of objectivity.

00:18:59.000 I don't specifically think it's a left-right thing, although it might be more prevalent on the left.

00:19:04.000 I think most people who are interested in politics aren't moderates, because if you're interested in it, you're likely to be on the right or the left, and there are downstream consequences of that.

00:19:13.000 And I don't think there's any lack of dishonesty or lack of objectivity on the right with posting things that are disingenuous.

00:19:20.000 For example, recently I saw this video.

00:19:23.000 It was Emmanuel Macron with a little tissue on the table.

00:19:26.000 Everybody on Twitter was so quick to call this a bag of some drug or something when it was really so obvious that it wasn't.

00:19:34.000 But really, we have so many crazy, perverse incentives between social media and news journalism where people are driving.

00:19:41.000 They want clicks.

00:19:42.000 They want money.

00:19:43.000 And that's really what sustains so many of these media companies.

00:19:46.000 So I think we also need to understand those perverse incentives because it really shows how different people with different parties And leanings are more willing to go along with things when they're obviously fake or wrong and they're clearly being dishonest about it but willing to try to capitalize on it.

00:20:02.000 I just think that's something we should...

00:20:03.000 Did you see that tissue stuff?

00:20:04.000 Yeah, of course, of course.

00:20:06.000 People were saying that it was coke and it was a coke, but it was a snot rag. 0.98

00:20:08.000 Yeah, it was some of the dumbest thing and I think I complained about this about the last time I was on, but I think a lot of the... 0.87

00:20:15.000 Different influencers that advance this stuff actually have disdain for you. 0.99

00:20:18.000 They think you're stupid and are trying to monetize off of that. 1.00

00:20:21.000 And it's disgusting and gross and making us worse as a society. 1.00

00:20:25.000 Do y 'all remember? 0.82

00:20:26.000 Oh, I do.

00:20:26.000 Do you guys remember in Trump's first term when the White House intern was walking up to get the microphone from, what's his face, the CNN guy?

00:20:35.000 Acosta.

00:20:36.000 And he pulled his arm away from her?

00:20:40.000 Liberals?

00:20:41.000 That I knew at the time, because this is like 2018 or something.

00:20:45.000 So back before everyone went further and further down the polarization lanes, I had a bunch of prominent liberals.

00:20:52.000 I'll leave them on name, but big people with millions of subscribers.

00:20:55.000 And they followed me and I followed them.

00:20:57.000 And I posted the video and I'm like, clearly Jim Acosta has the mic in his hand.

00:21:02.000 She's holding it and he jerks it towards him, away from her.

00:21:06.000 And everyone was trying to claim that she, with her hand under it, was pulling it down or something, which...

00:21:10.000 Just made no sense.

00:21:12.000 But there was no real way to know who polled one way or the other.

00:21:16.000 And Scott Adams, around the time, was talking about one screen with two movies on it.

00:21:21.000 So all the liberals were told, here's what happened.

00:21:25.000 They watched it.

00:21:26.000 They believed it.

00:21:27.000 Everybody else was told something else happened.

00:21:29.000 They watched it.

00:21:30.000 They believed it.

00:21:30.000 That has been consistently happening for a decade now.

00:21:34.000 Do you guys ever see, there's this research they do.

00:21:38.000 Where a mouth will say fa or pa, and then depending on which sound they play, you will see their mouth making that noise, and then when they turn the sound off, you will read it as if it's one sound or the other.

00:21:52.000 We referred to this recently as information vaccination.

00:21:57.000 Ian's been calling, Ian called it this, and it's a great point. 0.88

00:22:00.000 He says that often when a story comes out, he immediately will contact his parents.

00:22:05.000 And give them the truth before the lie can reach them because hearing the lie first will shape their perspective of the truth.

00:22:12.000 That is to say, I believe it's fair to say, now this is a contentious example because honestly I don't know, that Jim Acosta was trying to, he was holding the mic, he was talking, he wouldn't shut up.

00:22:20.000 They said, that's your time.

00:22:22.000 She went to grab the mic from him and then he was yanking it from her as she was pulling it from him.

00:22:25.000 I firmly believe that's true.

00:22:27.000 But if this story, you know, how about the very fine people hoax?

00:22:30.000 This is a better example.

00:22:32.000 When I saw Trump give that speech, I listened to the whole thing.

00:22:36.000 And I said, okay.

00:22:37.000 Then the media came out and they said he called Nazis fine people.

00:22:40.000 And I went, no, he didn't.

00:22:41.000 He said he condemned them.

00:22:42.000 What's going on?

00:22:43.000 But what happens if you're like, shout out to Daniel Negrano, the poker player who came on the show and explained the story.

00:22:49.000 When he had first been told that Trump called Nazis fine people, he believed it. 1.00

00:22:54.000 And then later when he saw the video, I've seen enough.

00:22:58.000 Now, anytime one of his buddies.

00:23:01.000 Trump never said that.

00:23:02.000 He'd be like, I've seen the video and I heard it.

00:23:03.000 I know what I know.

00:23:04.000 And he didn't want to hear anything further.

00:23:07.000 And it wasn't until one dude that he knew with the phone on the table slid over and said, watch, and pressed play.

00:23:12.000 And he went, OK.

00:23:13.000 And then for the first time, he heard Trump say, and not the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.

00:23:19.000 So information vaccination, getting the info to people before the media can lie about it and falsely frame it.

00:23:25.000 Because what's happening now, especially with the immigration stuff, The members of Congress who have gotten—who are threatened with arrests for physically—you see this lady close fist punch an ICE officer in the arm?

00:23:39.000 I mean, you can see in the video, she hits him in the arm.

00:23:44.000 CNN's not showing that video, and she's going on TV saying that none of that ever happened, and there's no video of this anyway.

00:23:50.000 So what happens now is the liberals are going to say, there's no video, it never happened. 0.86

00:23:55.000 If you go to them and say, here's a video of them punching, they'll be like, I don't want to see it because you're a liar.

00:23:59.000 So you gotta get him that information first.

00:24:01.000 I don't know if information vaccine is the best way to try to sell it to people, but...

00:24:05.000 No, I do.

00:24:06.000 For liberals especially.

00:24:07.000 Okay, yeah.

00:24:07.000 But not for conservatives, yeah.

00:24:09.000 I don't know if the...

00:24:09.000 I don't know if RFK Jr. would be a big fan of the information vaccine.

00:24:14.000 He's the guy who's recommending the vaccine, by the way.

00:24:16.000 That's right.

00:24:16.000 This is another hoax.

00:24:17.000 The media was claiming RFK Jr. was anti-vax.

00:24:20.000 And I'm like, we interviewed the guy.

00:24:21.000 He's pro-vax.

00:24:23.000 100%.

00:24:24.000 He was just like, we got to get more rigorous studies on these vaccines, and he was recommending them.

00:24:28.000 And then sure enough, a lot of people were surprised to find out that once he gets in at HHS, he's like, I recommend everybody get the vaccine.

00:24:35.000 To be fair, I think his rhetoric has become a lot more pro-vaccine, especially his recent comments on the MMR vaccine, where he's trying to encourage more people to get it.

00:24:43.000 Agreed.

00:24:44.000 But during his campaigning, he was not saying anything.

00:24:48.000 Like, maybe he tried walking away from his past.

00:24:51.000 All I'm saying is during the campaign, he was not anti-vax.

00:24:54.000 He was critical of how they rolled the COVID vaccine too quickly, but general vaccines he was not opposed to.

00:25:00.000 And the media kept saying he was.

00:25:01.000 They were just lying about it.

00:25:03.000 But anyway, let's let's let's jump to the next story here.

00:25:07.000 Big news from the post millennial federal judge rules.

00:25:10.000 Trump admin can use the Alien Enemies Act to deport illegal immigrant gang members.

00:25:15.000 The court now leaves it to the political branches of government and ultimately to the people who elect those individuals to decide whether the laws and those executing them, executing them, continue to reflect their will.

00:25:25.000 So this is a tremendous victory for Trump.

00:25:28.000 It had been stayed effectively, but now Trump is clear to use the AEA to begin deporting.

00:25:34.000 So what's the argument now?

00:25:39.000 Why can't Trump do what he does?

00:25:42.000 What he's doing is wrong or illegal?

00:25:44.000 What is the Democrat argument?

00:25:45.000 Courts agree with Trump.

00:25:47.000 I'll give you the argument just for the sake of steelmanning it.

00:25:50.000 So I think the concern that people have is not so much whether the executive can do this, but whether he should do this, right?

00:25:57.000 Because if you look at the Alien Enemies Act, it specifically contemplates the idea of war or an invasion by some sort of national adversary as a reasons to invoke the Alien Enemies Act, not just because you want to get illegal immigrants out of the country.

00:26:11.000 Now, I would counter that the way that Trump is looking at this is, okay, Trenderagua and some of these gangs, they're actually sponsored by the Venezuelan government.

00:26:20.000 But they don't have to be governmental.

00:26:26.000 Alien Enemies Act covers any organized group.

00:26:29.000 Any organized group, but it's like a nation-sponsored one.

00:26:34.000 So it's an interpretive act at the end of the day, and the concern is how he is choosing to interpret.

00:26:40.000 That said, I think it's healthy to just say, hey, this is actually not the role of the judiciary to decide what the interpretation the executive branch applies to acts like this should be.

00:26:50.000 Because if we do that, then what we have is a bunch of unelected judges deciding what the executive branch's policy should be.

00:26:56.000 And that's just not sustainable whether you like the executive branch or not.

00:27:00.000 And the check on the executive branch is supposed to be voting.

00:27:03.000 Not judges blocking everything that they do because of policy disagreements.

00:27:07.000 So I think there's a healthy check on the judiciary and it's long overdue.

00:27:12.000 I think that...

00:27:14.000 The laws in our country have been abused for so long.

00:27:18.000 So, for example, illegal aliens have been abusing our laws and abusing our ways of deporting them. 0.92

00:27:24.000 Democrats have also been obstructing different laws in the way that we are trying to deport them.

00:27:30.000 So I understand that you think that he's, or at least your argument is saying that he's kind of trying to push the bounds of what this law is saying to try to achieve his goals.

00:27:38.000 But I don't blame him for doing that, given the current political climate and political situation that we're in right now.

00:27:45.000 Illegal immigrants feel free to break the laws of our country. 1.00

00:27:49.000 Our executive actions aren't deporting the immigrants such that we don't have the means to do it in our law system.

00:27:56.000 So I think that's why he's resorting to different plans like this.

00:27:59.000 And I mean, frankly, if the ends justify the means here, and this is an effective way of getting Trente Aragua terrorists out of our country, then... 0.95

00:28:07.000 You know, it is what it is.

00:28:09.000 Yeah, and I don't disagree.

00:28:10.000 Again, I was proxying the opposite argument.

00:28:12.000 But yeah, I think the concern is just that he keeps things legal.

00:28:16.000 Because what happened is the Democrats basically...

00:28:20.000 It was like a sin of omission, right?

00:28:22.000 Because they just didn't enforce the law, which is essentially illegal to not enforce the law, but it's much more abstract, right?

00:28:27.000 Because how do you address a negative?

00:28:28.000 And then there's sanctuary cities on top of that.

00:28:30.000 So there's so many of these different workarounds where I guess laws don't matter if you're in New York City or LA.

00:28:35.000 Yeah.

00:28:36.000 And I'm glad that he's actually invoking the Alien Enemies Act specifically for violent gangs.

00:28:41.000 That's the situation where you need to address this.

00:28:43.000 How is he doing this?

00:28:44.000 What am I missing here?

00:28:45.000 If it applies to nations we're at war with, or hostile nations, how is he applying it to terrorist organizations?

00:28:50.000 So I think the argument is that Tren de Aragua is a state-sponsored gang, and he thinks that Maduro has...

00:28:57.000 But we're not at war with Venezuela either.

00:28:59.000 No, but we don't need to be at war.

00:29:01.000 It's only been invoked in times of war, but it also contemplates a national invasion where war is not actually declared.

00:29:07.000 So that's...

00:29:08.000 Obviously they went... 0.98

00:29:09.000 Deep in the fucking annals here to find out what kind of clause could they use to deal with this situation. 0.96

00:29:17.000 And it speaks to, as you said a lot, the fact that we have an environment that has been so disregarding of the law that now we're going back... 0.97

00:29:27.000 Hundreds of years to find laws that we can use to enforce a law. 0.91

00:29:30.000 It's ridiculous.

00:29:31.000 Aliens, Enemies Act of 1798.

00:29:33.000 There's so many also different laws on our country's books that if you want to find a law that will help justify whatever political thing that you're trying to achieve, I'm sure you could find it in the hundreds of years of history in our Constitution.

00:29:45.000 And then again, it feels as though so many different people in our political class aren't even following the laws.

00:29:50.000 It isn't only nations.

00:29:52.000 So that's why I was confused, because I thought that it could be any invasion.

00:29:56.000 So it says, "...been enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America and Congress assembled, that whenever there shall be a declared war between the United States and any foreign nation or government, or any invasion or predatory incursion, shall be perpetrated, attempt, or threatened against the territory of the United States by any foreign nation or government, and the President of the United States shall make public proclamation of the event.

00:30:13.000 All native citizens, denizens, are subjects of hostile nations or government, being males of the age of 14 years upwards, who shall be within the United States." So it says, It is, let's see, it's interesting. 0.73

00:30:30.000 I guess the interesting interpretation is it says whenever there's a war or any invasion or predatory incursion is perpetrated.

00:30:36.000 I think the fact that it's the phrase or the wordage, you know, predatory invasion, that's...

00:30:44.000 That really does classify what's going on.

00:30:46.000 The federal government, you know, the Biden administration really just ignored the law and it was such a dramatic consequence that you have to do something like this to solve the problem.

00:31:00.000 There's no precedent.

00:31:02.000 To have that many people come into the United States in such a short amount of time and have no intention of assimilating to the lifestyle and the culture of the U.S. And I think it's important that the current administration do something to fix the damage that was done.

00:31:20.000 It's so fascinating how we're kind of choosy with which laws we decide to enforce or not.

00:31:25.000 It's also illegal in our country to employ illegal immigrants.

00:31:28.000 I'm looking at the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986.

00:31:31.000 I don't think illegal immigrants are having any trouble actually finding legal business, too, because we want them on our farms to work there legally, as I understand.

00:31:39.000 I actually asked Stephen Miller about this, and he said that, you know, we're actually doing a lot more work site enforcement.

00:31:48.000 But as far as I...

00:31:49.000 I understand, you know, illegals can't work legally at companies, but there's still millions of illegals in our country working at these different companies, and we just choose not to enforce the law here.

00:31:59.000 Sanctuary cities, we choose not to enforce the law here.

00:32:01.000 I'm sure there's a ton of other things, not only on immigration here, but that's the fascinating thing.

00:32:06.000 When it comes to stuff like employing illegal immigrants, we've talked about that here.

00:32:10.000 If you employ an illegal immigrant... 1.00

00:32:12.000 You should lose your business.

00:32:14.000 The federal government should absolutely just expropriate your property.

00:32:18.000 If you've been found to knowingly and intentionally hire illegal immigrants because you're trying to skirt tax law or whatever law, the government should take your business from you.

00:32:28.000 So just to clarify everything we've gone through, we were all correct.

00:32:32.000 The arguments, as you're saying, Kaizen, is that these people are state-sponsored.

00:32:36.000 Venezuela is effectively releasing them from the prisons and then sending them our way, which constitutes an incursion or predatory invasion.

00:32:42.000 It doesn't need to be that we are declared at war with Venezuela, just that Venezuela is sponsoring an incursion or predatory invasion, which Trump has declared, and that's why the court has ruled this does align with the Alien Enemies Act.

00:32:55.000 I think also part of what the Trump administration is trying to achieve here is actually a little bit of fear in those who are considering making the trip to immigrate here illegally.

00:33:05.000 So that's why he wants to show like...

00:33:06.000 If you come here, you're a gangster, you come here illegally and break the law, you might be sent to a different prison in El Salvador, a brutal prison, if you're willing to do those illegal actions in our country.

00:33:17.000 Part of the reason why we should come down on business is because we want people that are here illegally to leave of their own volition. 1.00

00:33:23.000 Exactly.

00:33:24.000 Because it's difficult to do all of the due process stuff that we're supposed to do.

00:33:29.000 Even just having everybody go through the normal administrative process is a ton of manpower and a ton of time.

00:33:37.000 The more difficult you make it for people to stay here illegally, the better it is for the country. 1.00

00:33:41.000 Because you don't have to have jackboot thugs, which is one of the things the left is terrified of.

00:33:46.000 If you make it exceedingly difficult for illegal immigrants to stay here, to work here, just to do their day-to-day business of their life here, have them leave... 1.00

00:34:00.000 And it's better for the illegal immigrants, because then they don't have to get arrested.

00:34:03.000 Then they don't have to get, you know, maybe roughed up from the cops.

00:34:06.000 It's better for the communities that they live in, because you don't have police going and, you know, getting into interactions with the population.

00:34:13.000 Because any time the police get into interactions with the population, there is the possibility of some kind of tension, possibly a crime, you know, possibly someone gets into a fight with the cops.

00:34:23.000 You don't want any of it.

00:34:24.000 Just make it hard for them to be here, because they go on their own way.

00:34:26.000 Well said.

00:34:27.000 And it's funny because basically what we're saying is we just need to enforce the law.

00:34:31.000 100%.

00:34:31.000 And do so consistently.

00:34:33.000 And I don't think anyone wants to see masked ICE stormtroopers busting into homes and kicking, screaming women and children out of their homes.

00:34:43.000 You're shaking your head.

00:34:44.000 Are they legal or are they legal?

00:34:45.000 Well, whether they're here legally or not, I don't want to see that happen to another human being.

00:34:50.000 So rather than having to do this by force, and if we have 10 to 20 million people, it just doesn't scale.

00:34:54.000 Let's change the incentive model by enforcing the law properly so that people leave a... 0.96

00:35:00.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:07.000 Right?

00:35:07.000 Yeah.

00:35:07.000 Once you're gone and confirmed to be in your home nation, they deposit $1,000.

00:35:12.000 I love that.

00:35:13.000 Now, $1,000 is probably not enough, but if it costs us $17,000 to do this by force, and it costs us less than $17,000 to incentivize someone to just leave of their own accord, on their own timing, to the country of their choice, let's do that so that we can have a situation where, yes, we're treating people humanely, and we're also sustaining the community that people want to come to, because the reason that they want to come here is because we enforce the law.

00:35:36.000 And that's why America's great.

00:35:37.000 We just got to make sure the border is very secure, lest they keep coming back to get $1,000.

00:35:42.000 And also, you know what?

00:35:43.000 If you're in Peru, $1,000 is a whole lot more than $1,000 in the United States.

00:35:48.000 Also true.

00:35:48.000 Tyson, I wanted to ask, you said you were on the left before.

00:35:51.000 When did the switch happen?

00:35:53.000 And was there a certain something that happened that kind of initiated that switch?

00:35:58.000 July 13th, 2024.

00:36:00.000 The day that Trump almost got assassinated.

00:36:02.000 Oh, wow.

00:36:02.000 Okay.

00:36:04.000 That's recent.

00:36:04.000 That's very recent.

00:36:06.000 So I had been questioning what I'd been told about politics.

00:36:10.000 Since the start of 2024, because that's when I started to just pay attention.

00:36:14.000 I had not been a political person at all.

00:36:16.000 Have you ever voted before that?

00:36:17.000 Yeah, I always voted, but I'd always been a Democrat by default.

00:36:20.000 I was not really that conscious of a decision.

00:36:22.000 And the first thing I noticed, actually, was when Trump got hit with the felony charge.

00:36:27.000 And I saw how excited people were, and I also saw that people didn't know what they were excited about.

00:36:32.000 Because no one actually knew what the felony was for.

00:36:35.000 And when I actually looked into the case, I realized, okay, first of all, this thing just doesn't sound like a felony to me.

00:36:41.000 Just intuitively, him paying $100,000 to a porn star doesn't actually bother me ethically at all.

00:36:49.000 And that seemed like pretty normal politics, like people get endorsements or they pay people to be on their side.

00:36:55.000 And if he cheated on his wife, that's an ethical breach, but the act itself didn't bother me.

00:37:00.000 I was like, why is this a felony to begin with?

00:37:05.000 Every single week, even after Trump was out of office, there was a new story about a subpoena or tax documents.

00:37:12.000 And then I thought, wait, the terminus of all of this is this?

00:37:16.000 Like, that's what he's getting hit with a felony for?

00:37:18.000 Not all the things that you said he was doing in business?

00:37:21.000 And then I started to realize, hey, people are being emotionally led rather than logically led.

00:37:26.000 And they've already made up their mind about this guy.

00:37:28.000 So they concluded everything that they hear about him that's negative is true.

00:37:32.000 The second thing was when I saw Biden senile on the debate stage.

00:37:36.000 And it's like, you know, Tim was talking earlier about honesty and subjectivity and objectivity.

00:37:43.000 It was just objectively true.

00:37:44.000 The guy was not well-possessed of his mental faculties.

00:37:48.000 It felt like I was being told not to believe my lying eyes when I saw that the guy was, he's clearly early onset dementia or something.

00:37:56.000 And then I realized, okay, I don't trust Trump yet, but I definitely don't trust the Democratic Party.

00:38:01.000 I definitely don't trust these people who are telling me that our president is sharp as attack.

00:38:06.000 And I was just concerned, like, who is running the country then?

00:38:09.000 Like, this guy is negotiating with world leaders?

00:38:12.000 And then I was honestly still scared because I had so much conditioning.

00:38:17.000 Remember, on the left, believing that Trump should run the country equates you with being a bad person.

00:38:23.000 That's how deep it was.

00:38:24.000 I was afraid of getting canceled by my community, my family, everyone.

00:38:29.000 And then the day that he nearly got assassinated, I just felt my heart leap out of my chest.

00:38:34.000 And I thought to myself, wow, that is the realest political moment I've ever seen.

00:38:39.000 That was such a powerful moment.

00:38:40.000 It was just real.

00:38:41.000 Like, when he got up and he said, fight, fight, fight, I thought to myself, you can't fake that.

00:38:45.000 Not even thought to myself, I felt it.

00:38:47.000 And actually, that was the first day that I recorded a video on the subject.

00:38:51.000 It went viral, and then my whole life changed after that.

00:38:54.000 Can I ask, did you get pushback from your peers, family, and community as a result of your support for President Trump? 0.93

00:39:00.000 You're obviously black. 0.57

00:39:01.000 President Trump had a lot of different initiatives to try to get more support from the black community. 0.98

00:39:06.000 He's more successful in doing it with black men than black women. 1.00

00:39:08.000 Can you tell me a little bit more about, you know, the pushback you got in your community and are you seeing more of them become Republican and Trump fans?

00:39:16.000 Wait, I'm black?

00:39:17.000 I think so.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, of course, man.

00:39:20.000 And it's not fun, right?

00:39:22.000 Because you want to be liked.

00:39:23.000 Everyone likes to be liked.

00:39:26.000 Also, I realized that it wasn't even about what I was saying.

00:39:29.000 It was just about what people's beliefs were.

00:39:31.000 And that's where the pushback was coming from.

00:39:33.000 Because I wasn't shy about my opinions, obviously, because I shared them online.

00:39:37.000 And at first I was scared, like, okay, what if I miss something and he is a secret white supremacist and he is trying to put us back in chains and all of this stuff.

00:39:44.000 And consistently the arguments that I saw were emotional arguments.

00:39:48.000 They just weren't very good.

00:39:49.000 And I knew that I did my research.

00:39:50.000 And actually one of the interesting things is...

00:39:52.000 I think this political awakening that I had and many other people are having is only possible now.

00:39:57.000 Because with AI and social media and these tools, we can actually process a lot of information and process out the nonsense and get to the truth ourselves.

00:40:06.000 Whereas before, we were reliant on these single points of failure in the media.

00:40:11.000 So yeah, I got pushed back and I went through my own journey with it.

00:40:14.000 But honestly, what I also saw was a lot of people come out of the woodwork and say, I'm so glad you're saying this because I was thinking it and was afraid to say it.

00:40:23.000 Encourage me to keep going.

00:40:25.000 And yeah, I think in the black community, yeah, there's a lot of people who are just scared.

00:40:29.000 And that's where it's coming from.

00:40:31.000 It's just genuine fear.

00:40:32.000 And I understand where it's coming from.

00:40:34.000 But I'll remind people, before Trump got into politics, he was the man in every community.

00:40:40.000 Black people loved him.

00:40:42.000 He was friends with Nelson Mandela and Mike Tyson and Michael Jackson.

00:40:46.000 Like, this whole Trump is a white supremacist thing was very new.

00:40:49.000 It only happened after he got into politics.

00:40:51.000 So I just encourage people to, like, look back in your memory banks and wonder, when did you start believing this stuff anyway, and why?

00:40:58.000 Because if Trump didn't get into politics, I think he would still just be the apprentice guy, the picture of the American dream, and someone that people looked up to, like before.

00:41:05.000 But has his efforts been paying off in the black community, you think?

00:41:12.000 It's tough, man.

00:41:14.000 I think, unfortunately, no.

00:41:16.000 Like, that would be my guess.

00:41:17.000 And it's not because of what he's doing, but the way that everything gets positioned.

00:41:21.000 Like, for instance, when we talk about DEI.

00:41:24.000 Anytime people think DEI, they think DEI pro-black people, removing DEI anti-black people.

00:41:30.000 When, of course, there's nuance to that.

00:41:32.000 I think that a lot of these DEI policies have actually been harmful to black people.

00:41:36.000 I think this whole idea of a DEI hire has come from black people being promoted because of the color of our skin. 0.94

00:41:43.000 That's not helpful for black people. 1.00

00:41:44.000 I think it's actually belittling. 0.98

00:41:46.000 I think it's disempowering.

00:41:48.000 I want to ask about something more specific than the DEI because in the way it manifests, because I wanted to have something tangible here, like affirmative action.

00:41:54.000 So, for example, some black people have argued that it's actually harmful.

00:41:58.000 I feel like Thomas Sowell's actually argued that.

00:42:01.000 Who's the Supreme Court?

00:42:03.000 Clarence Thomas actually wrote about this in his book that when he went to college and when he went to law school, he believed that everybody looked at him differently because he thought that everybody only thought he was there as a result of affirmative action.

00:42:14.000 But others say that no, black people were dispossessed and they actually needed this leg up and statistically couldn't compete as well and were underrepresented in a lot of these colleges and in positions of power and wealth.

00:42:27.000 So do you understand those two arguments?

00:42:29.000 And what do you think about the...

00:42:30.000 Yeah, so I actually went to Harvard.

00:42:32.000 I'm black.

00:42:33.000 I'm also first generation.

00:42:35.000 So I'm in this interesting position because a lot of the black people who are supposed to be getting help by these policies are not first generation immigrants.

00:42:43.000 They're descendants from slaves way back. 0.51

00:42:46.000 Me, I don't have that trauma in my lineage.

00:42:48.000 I don't see any reason why I need affirmative action.

00:42:51.000 But in America, it's like, oh, well, you're black, so you need to leg up. 0.99

00:42:54.000 So when I went to Harvard, it's like...

00:42:57.000 I like to think I would have gotten in no matter what, but I don't know.

00:43:00.000 Did you have some imposter syndrome and feel as though others didn't think you belonged there as a result of affirmative action in DEI?

00:43:07.000 It's always a question.

00:43:08.000 I don't personally feel like I didn't deserve to be there, but it's always a question.

00:43:12.000 And I know some people are thinking it.

00:43:15.000 And I'll actually tell you a funny story.

00:43:17.000 After I made my shift from the left more toward the right, I considered myself independent, but you know how it goes.

00:43:23.000 I had someone who knew me, knew me personally, knew me well, who was a liberal.

00:43:31.000 fact that I went to Harvard as a black man in my face and basically tried to imply that I got into Harvard because I'm black.

00:43:37.000 I was like, wait, you're supposed to be the side that's looking out for me and you're trying to insult me and take away my achievements.

00:43:44.000 This whole worldview, it's like you do things that sound good, but I don't think they actually have a good impact.

00:43:50.000 Now, do I think that black people in this country want help? 1.00

00:43:54.000 Yeah.

00:43:54.000 Would I like to see Trump help anyone who is in a position where they don't feel like they have opportunity?

00:44:00.000 Of course.

00:44:01.000 But a lot of these policies, they sound good on their face, but they actually have a psychological impact or a very tangible impact that's quite I guess, do you think you'd have a different perspective if you were an African descendant of slaves as opposed to an African migrant, a first generation African migrant from Africa now?

00:44:19.000 I might, but then the question would be, okay, well, why aren't we spending as much effort on the starting line for black Americans as we are on the finish line?

00:44:27.000 Why is it that when someone is 18, they're just artificially shoved into an employment role or an admissions role that they just don't have as good qualifications at, rather than in K-12, we're making sure that we're giving kids good education in inner-city schools, or making sure that they're not being exposed to environmental toxins that are retarding their development.

00:44:47.000 That's what we need to actually do.

00:44:48.000 But instead, we do the sledgehammer most obvious-seeming solution that doesn't actually solve the root causes of the problem.

00:44:55.000 For the record, I agree with you.

00:44:56.000 I just wanted to steal the argument.

00:44:57.000 You just hit the nail on the head with a hammer.

00:44:59.000 This is all finish line stuff.

00:45:01.000 You've nailed it.

00:45:02.000 They're trying to drag people who can't run across the finish line instead of...

00:45:07.000 Going to the beginning when everyone's training and make sure everybody's got that training program and that access so that they can run on their own merit.

00:45:13.000 Exactly.

00:45:14.000 Amazing.

00:45:15.000 And then at the end of the day, what happens?

00:45:16.000 It actually just breeds more racial resentment.

00:45:19.000 Because now you have in schools, and you know, Harvard just went through this.

00:45:23.000 They just had to, you know, they're still fighting over affirmative action.

00:45:26.000 But you have, you know, Asian kids or Jewish kids or white kids who feel like, okay, well, I didn't cause these initial starting conditions that my black and brown peers are dealing with.

00:45:37.000 But now I don't have anything to do except give them my spot.

00:45:41.000 And what's that going to do?

00:45:42.000 It's going to breed resentment.

00:45:43.000 It actually creates more racism because, newsflash, discrimination...

00:45:48.000 Always creates more discrimination.

00:45:50.000 So the solution to discrimination is equality.

00:45:52.000 Not saying, oh, because this group was discriminated against, we need to discriminate against this other group to get something back to them. 0.98

00:45:59.000 It just keeps on going in cycles.

00:46:01.000 So the only way to stop this is with principled approaches and figure out, hey, how do we give the people who need the help the help that they need in the ways that they actually need it early?

00:46:11.000 Not at the end here.

00:46:13.000 Yeah.

00:46:14.000 Absolutely.

00:46:14.000 Spot on there.

00:46:15.000 But then what we end up with is a Democratic Party that doesn't want to solve a problem.

00:46:19.000 They want a wedge issue they can continually use.

00:46:22.000 So they need to do half measures that make it look like they're doing something.

00:46:26.000 Affirmative action.

00:46:27.000 Yeah, we'll get you into college.

00:46:28.000 See, look at all the great things I'm doing for you.

00:46:30.000 But they don't actually want these problems to be solved.

00:46:33.000 They don't, you know, the Democrats love that Roe v. 0.60

00:46:35.000 Wade got overturned.

00:46:36.000 They're like, wow, we're going to be able to, we have a wedge issue now for every election.

00:46:40.000 You know, they could have codified Roe v. 0.97

00:46:41.000 Wade anytime they wanted. 0.97

00:46:42.000 Whenever they had, during Obama, they could have done it.

00:46:46.000 They didn't do it.

00:46:48.000 The Republicans could have got rid of Obamacare several times. 0.93

00:46:51.000 They could do it right now.

00:46:52.000 They won't do it.

00:46:53.000 This is what politicians do.

00:46:55.000 Yep, because the goal is to stay in power, not to actually use your power to make a solution.

00:47:00.000 Let's jump to this story from the Post Millennial.

00:47:02.000 CNN analyst says white South Africans should go back to Europe.

00:47:07.000 Indicates genocide is what establishes refugee status.

00:47:10.000 This is actually an amazing clip.

00:47:11.000 Let's play it.

00:47:13.000 So, if you think about the history of South Africa, it being under an apartheid system, where I think it is 80% of the population that are black Africans only own 4% of the land.

00:47:25.000 That is because they were put in shanty towns and moved into areas where they had no rights. 1.00

00:47:33.000 And so, 35, 30 plus years ago, they went through a revolution, the apartheid system ended.

00:47:42.000 And they reformed their constitution under the great leader of Nelson Mandela, and that allowed for a racial reconciliation, one that this country has yet to do.

00:47:53.000 South Africa did it, and they reformed their constitution.

00:47:55.000 And part of that is that the people who are native to that land deserve their rightful land back.

00:48:01.000 That is not what the Afrikaners actually want to have happen, which are the white Africans, and so who are not originally from Africa, who colonized South Africa also. 0.99

00:48:13.000 And so that is what they are saying is discrimination.

00:48:16.000 Now, if the Constitution in South Africa is discriminatory, they have their checks and balances in that land, just like we do.

00:48:24.000 And that is for them to.

00:48:25.000 So if the Afrikaners don't actually like the land, they can leave that country. 1.00

00:48:29.000 They are.

00:48:29.000 They're leaving to come.

00:48:30.000 No.

00:48:31.000 If there was actually a genocide happening, like there is in other places in Sudan, in the Congo, I'm not opposed for Congolese.

00:48:53.000 So here's, just to address her point, these people, she says, could go back to their ancestral homeland. 0.94

00:48:58.000 You know what's really fascinating is, I look at everything we're dealing with, the solutions proposed and the mechanisms put in place by Democrats, and my only conclusion is, wow, these Democrats are racist. 0.85

00:49:09.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:49:11.000 If the worldview of the left is decolonized, what does that produce?

00:49:16.000 Honestly, if she's saying white people go back to Germany, okay, so all the white people go back to Europe, all the black people go back to Africa, ethno-literal nations of segregation, that's what they're advocating for. 0.94

00:49:28.000 And then I'm thinking about, what are they doing here?

00:49:30.000 They're opening the floodgates so that unskilled labor can flood into this country. 1.00

00:49:35.000 What will that do?

00:49:36.000 It will create competition among the low-skilled base of most white, most poor people in this country, not white, but most poor people in this country are white. 0.53

00:49:44.000 Because white people are the majority of the country.

00:49:46.000 You then bring in a whole bunch of people from Central and South America and even some in Africa who are going to compete against those people and you will create racism.

00:49:56.000 I think that's what they want to have happen.

00:49:59.000 Well, I mean, if they're...

00:50:02.000 Working from an ideologically leftist position, then yes.

00:50:06.000 Because there is no longer revolutionary energy in the working class.

00:50:12.000 This is all Herbert Marcuse from the 50s.

00:50:16.000 Because capitalism delivers the goods, capitalism gives a good life to people.

00:50:21.000 There was no more revolutionary energy in the working class, so what they needed to do was they needed to go to the—this is Mark Hughes talking—they needed to go to the ghettos and get people that were the racial minorities and have those people basically stoke racial tensions to get them— To engage in revolutionary activities in the United States, because capitalism works. 0.70

00:50:40.000 This lady from CNN is so dishonest, and that's because she's saying something that I don't think she actually believes.

00:50:47.000 She doesn't think that people, if you think there's genocide happening in the country, that you should go back to your country.

00:50:52.000 Because guess what?

00:50:53.000 She wouldn't apply that to anybody here.

00:50:55.000 Herself?

00:50:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:50:57.000 She would never apply that to any of the immigrants in the United States.

00:51:00.000 But no.

00:51:02.000 No, no, no.

00:51:02.000 They're not immigrants.

00:51:04.000 These Afrikaners have been there for hundreds of years. 0.70

00:51:07.000 So for the black people who have been here for hundreds of years and have been oppressed, right, and undermined and been treated as second-class citizens, she wouldn't tell them, oh, just go back to Africa.

00:51:16.000 Of course not. 0.91

00:51:16.000 And that's why she's extremely dishonest. 0.91

00:51:18.000 And this isn't an argument that she'd make because she doesn't believe in it. 0.78

00:51:21.000 And I guarantee you, actual white supremacists would look at her and say, ma 'am, you are correct.

00:51:25.000 Can I pay for your trip?

00:51:26.000 Jared Taylor's probably looking at this woman and going, yes, ma 'am.

00:51:29.000 Like, yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly.

00:51:31.000 They want all the white people to go back to Europe and reestablish Europe. 0.99

00:51:35.000 And they want all of the non-whites out of America. 1.00

00:51:38.000 If she were consistent, but she's not, and she's just making that argument to throw it in this guy's face. 0.98

00:51:42.000 Tim makes a really good point.

00:51:44.000 The end result of what she's talking about is ethnostates, which is something that the left... 0.68

00:51:53.000 What consistently says is a terrible thing.

00:51:55.000 Part of the reason why they hate Israel is because they say Israel is an ethnostate and ethnostates are bad.

00:52:01.000 Well, if ethnostates are bad, then why are you telling people to go back to their countries of origin and why are you only doing it to white people? 0.80

00:52:10.000 Because you don't hear them telling people of color to go back to their countries of origin.

00:52:15.000 Unfortunately, I think she makes a really bad argument and she could make a much better argument here, which is that, hey, okay, Let's say that...

00:52:23.000 We consider it a moral imperative as Americans to protect these people who are being racially persecuted in South Africa, which I believe is happening. 0.81

00:52:31.000 I do believe that there's anti-white discrimination in South Africa. 0.97

00:52:33.000 There's this video of the leader of the third most popular party in South Africa literally saying, kill all the boars, which is white farmers. 0.99

00:52:41.000 Oh, that video of them in that stadium. 0.99

00:52:42.000 Yeah.

00:52:43.000 So I don't know, obviously, the intimate details of what's going on in South Africa, but I take it at face value when they say that something is going on.

00:52:49.000 Maybe not a white genocide, but something is going on.

00:52:51.000 Obviously, these people...

00:52:53.000 Well, I think it's 4%.

00:52:55.000 Let me just finish one second.

00:52:56.000 I think the argument she should be making is, okay, well, let's protect people consistently who are dealing with racial persecution in their land.

00:53:03.000 Because this is happening in Ethiopia. 0.95

00:53:05.000 It's happening in China, the Uyghur Muslims. 1.00

00:53:08.000 It's happening, I think it's happening in Afghanistan with the Hazara. 1.00

00:53:11.000 Yeah, it's happening all over the place.

00:53:13.000 And what I don't like about this is Trump not making a transparency policy and principled stance on, hey, we protect...

00:53:21.000 People who are being persecuted from anywhere so their doors are open because what he did in January is say, we're not going to open the door to refugees at all.

00:53:29.000 Now he's saying this specific group of refugees is being allowed.

00:53:32.000 Now to be clear...

00:53:33.000 I don't think he's doing it because they're white, because in that case, he would allow the Ukrainians in.

00:53:39.000 And he's been talking about expelling the Ukrainians as recently as last month.

00:53:42.000 I do think he is protecting them because they are being targeted because they're white, which is different.

00:53:48.000 And I think it's important to deal with anti-white racism because it's real and it doesn't get enough attention.

00:53:53.000 That said, I actually think he is...

00:53:56.000 Creating more distrust by not laying out a policy like, hey, we protect people from any kind of racial persecution across planet Earth, not just people who are being targeted because they're white.

00:54:06.000 That's the argument she should be making, and instead, she's actually undermining her case. 0.92

00:54:10.000 I also don't want to beat around the bush here at all.

00:54:12.000 I think the reason why people care about this story, the reason why the people care about the track meet stabbing story, the reason why people care about that Shiloh story of the woman yelling the N-word at this child allegedly, is because...

00:54:25.000 It's a black and white issue, and people are using this to stoke racial tension, and that's why it's extra sensationalized.

00:54:30.000 It's a backlash.

00:54:31.000 Yeah, I feel like we need to acknowledge that people care more about these stories because there are black and white people involved.

00:54:38.000 Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't mention the white guy is arguing, obviously, pro-South Africa.

00:54:44.000 The black woman's arguing that they shouldn't be brought here.

00:54:48.000 So I feel like we can't miss that.

00:54:50.000 Also, I was at the White House when Stephen Miller was being asked about it.

00:54:53.000 Again, and he's a white guy, and he was being asked by a black reporter about this.

00:54:57.000 I feel like we can't overlook the racial dynamics here.

00:55:01.000 And to not mention them, I think, is missing a dynamic here.

00:55:05.000 And I think it would be different if they weren't white. 0.99

00:55:08.000 It is the norm on the planet Earth for people to be racist. 0.78

00:55:14.000 And it is only in a tiny blip of American history...

00:55:18.000 And Western civilization where there has been an active effort to suppress racism.

00:55:24.000 The left, the woke left, and all of their whatever, you know, ancillary groups have been trying to return the world to how it used to be.

00:55:37.000 Nation-states based on race, racial tribalism, that's what they advocate for here. 0.74

00:55:44.000 And they're going to continue to advocate for it. 0.90

00:55:46.000 Can I add one more layer of hypocrisy?

00:55:48.000 There's an alleged genocide happening in Gaza, right?

00:55:50.000 None of these guys have been arguing for them to be brought over to Europe or America as refugees.

00:55:55.000 I would hate that.

00:55:56.000 I do not want any, not one, Palestinian refugee to be brought to the United States. 1.00

00:56:00.000 Frankly, I don't think any refugee should be brought over from the Middle East. 1.00

00:56:04.000 I'm saying, so this lady, right, she was saying that we should bring in refugees from areas where genocides are occurring. 0.50

00:56:09.000 But the left never argues that the Palestinians should leave.

00:56:13.000 Mara Gaza, right?

00:56:14.000 They're saying that they need to stay there.

00:56:15.000 And UNRWA actually exists so they can continue existing there.

00:56:18.000 That's the response.

00:56:19.000 They have to stay there, actually.

00:56:20.000 It's immoral if they'd leave, right? 0.89

00:56:22.000 So, like, again, the layers of hypocrisy...

00:56:25.000 No, no.

00:56:25.000 It's a good point.

00:56:26.000 Say to this lady, hey, look, Trump said that he wanted to make Mara Gaza.

00:56:30.000 How about we bring all of the Palestinian people to the United States? 1.00

00:56:33.000 I don't even want to joke around about that.

00:56:35.000 Like, I wouldn't even want to troll about that.

00:56:37.000 I think that would be such a...

00:56:38.000 They would never say yes to that.

00:56:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I also think we already see the consequences of some immigration from the Middle East and how our... 1.00

00:56:48.000 Lack of values being compatible has manifested in our country.

00:56:53.000 I actually want to go back to something you said earlier, Lod, about the racial dynamic.

00:56:57.000 Because, yeah, that's clearly what's happening.

00:56:59.000 Obviously it didn't start with Carmelo, but in recent memory it started with Carmelo and then Shiloh and now this, right?

00:57:05.000 And I think what is happening is we're seeing this discriminatory loop play out where black people have felt discriminated against historically, which is obviously the case.

00:57:16.000 And in response, a lot of the left has been trying to...

00:57:21.000 Deal with that discrimination by discriminating against other groups.

00:57:25.000 So now white people have felt discriminated against and when they see that black people are allowed to say and do whatever we want and say that Carmelo is somehow just acting in self-defense and he deserves a million dollars for his legal fund and not also simultaneously saying, hey, he killed a kid and that's just morally bad irrespective of color, then of course white people are going to...

00:57:50.000 I think you could even, it goes back so far, but a case that comes to mind was, even in the OJ case, the black community refuses to acknowledge the guilt of OJ Simpson and black people writ large were happy to see him get off, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, that he should have been found guilty.

00:58:11.000 Black people aren't unique with their in-group preferences.

00:58:13.000 What we get from the left is you had this liberal society in the United States, and I mean that in a philosophical sense, where a bunch of white people were like, we don't want to be racist.

00:58:26.000 And so the norms of this country were largely like, yeah, racism is bad, don't do that.

00:58:31.000 Then you had, with the OJ case, black individuals who were collectively black.

00:58:36.000 Meaning they found identity, identitarian, as it were, that their political ideas were rooted in their race.

00:58:45.000 What the woke left does is they tell these people white people are all secretly white supremacists and they're doing everything to hold you back so that they can inflame the identitarian conflict. 0.80

00:58:56.000 For whatever reason, I don't know, I think they're largely racist.

00:58:58.000 And if you trace the history of the Democratic Party, you might be shocked to find.

00:59:03.000 Indeed, they may have always been.

00:59:05.000 Yeah, and ironically, I mean, I agree, everyone has a degree of racism.

00:59:10.000 Everyone.

00:59:11.000 And I think the actual solution, instead of policing people's thoughts, is to get it out in the open and expose people to one another.

00:59:18.000 Because once...

00:59:20.000 People actually interact with each other like, oh, okay, this is like a person.

00:59:23.000 Because racism is fundamentally about dehumanization.

00:59:26.000 But instead, what we do is we cancel people for anything that even has a whiff of not even racism, but any kind of racial preference at all. 0.88

00:59:37.000 And I think that's ridiculous. 0.97

00:59:38.000 Like, as you said, black people have an in-group preference. 0.99

00:59:41.000 White people have an in-group preference.

00:59:43.000 Every group has an in-group preference.

00:59:44.000 I'll say it.

00:59:44.000 Jewish people have an in-group preference.

00:59:46.000 Obviously, yeah.

00:59:47.000 Obviously.

00:59:48.000 It's okay to have a preference.

00:59:50.000 It's okay to have a preference.

00:59:51.000 It's not okay to dehumanize people on the other side of your preference.

00:59:55.000 But let's make sure we have distinctions between the two so we're not calling everything racism because you can't actually spot racism when it's actually happening.

01:00:02.000 The things I have heard Catholics say of Protestants, oh boy.

01:00:05.000 Oh, yeah.

01:00:06.000 The point that you're making, that was something that I heard Muhammad Ali talking about in the 60s.

01:00:11.000 He was saying, look, I want to live around black people. 1.00

01:00:13.000 White people want to live around white people. 0.90

01:00:15.000 There's nothing wrong with it.

01:00:16.000 And it's like, to even say that nowadays is very controversial.

01:00:19.000 If someone were to say, well, it's normal for people to want to live around people like them.

01:00:25.000 That's something that really will get people like, oh, how can you say that?

01:00:31.000 But then you look at the way that neighborhoods...

01:00:34.000 End up.

01:00:34.000 And they just, people naturally kind of do that.

01:00:37.000 Chinatown, literally, that's a very normal thing for human beings to do.

01:00:41.000 When Chicago elected Brandon Johnson, I think his name is right.

01:00:46.000 I looked, being from Chicago, I pulled up the electoral map and I noticed something based on the voting patterns.

01:00:54.000 So I pulled up the race makeup of the neighborhoods of Chicago.

01:00:59.000 And I compared the map side by side, and lo and behold, what would you find?

01:01:04.000 Every racial demographic voted for the mayoral candidate who was their race.

01:01:10.000 No joke.

01:01:11.000 There was one deviant.

01:01:12.000 There was one outlier.

01:01:13.000 So in the Latino area, you look at the election.

01:01:17.000 Number one, Latino guy. 0.99

01:01:19.000 Number two, Latino guy. 0.95

01:01:20.000 Number three, white guy. 0.98

01:01:21.000 You go to the black neighborhood. 1.00

01:01:23.000 Even, this is what was fascinating.

01:01:25.000 In the black community in Chicago, the top... 0.54

01:01:28.000 Three candidates, I think four or five, were all black, even though most of those people they were voting for were nowhere near frontrunners.

01:01:36.000 So there was this one white dude who was expected to be likely one of the winners.

01:01:40.000 He was polling really, really well.

01:01:42.000 They didn't vote for him at all.

01:01:44.000 The white areas, not the suburbs, but the white areas of Chicago that are, you know, not just generally white, voted for the white guy.

01:01:51.000 The only neighborhood that didn't was Loyola, which is where the university was, and it's largely white, and it voted for Brandon Johnson, putting him over the edge.

01:02:01.000 This is a city where no one actually cared about the policies of the individual or what the city was going to build.

01:02:08.000 All they cared about was the person who was in charge was the same race as them.

01:02:12.000 That's terrifying.

01:02:13.000 Yeah.

01:02:14.000 You remember that Obama clip?

01:02:15.000 I'm sure you guys saw it, where he was...

01:02:19.000 Chastising black men for not voting for Kamala and saying that, oh, she grew up like you.

01:02:24.000 It was incredibly condescending because the implication was, hey, you should vote for this person because they look like you, not because they'll do right by you.

01:02:32.000 And that's a problem with tribalism.

01:02:34.000 It hurts everyone. 0.98

01:02:35.000 When you're this tribal, you actually will do things that self-sabotage merely because someone looks like you, which is ridiculous. 0.80

01:02:42.000 So, yeah, I think, look, we need to acknowledge the reality of this discrimination in both directions here.

01:02:47.000 And in order to stop the discrimination, we have to focus on equality, not promoting people who are in some sort of underprivileged class that we've now elevated to privilege because they've been oppressed more.

01:02:58.000 I want to jump to this clip from the Joe Rogan experience.

01:03:01.000 This is fascinating.

01:03:03.000 In this clip, Jillian Michaels is appearing on a show, and Joe and Jillian both say they were hoaxed by the Maryland man lie.

01:03:11.000 Check this out.

01:03:12.000 Saying, oh my god, they deported a Maryland man and a father, because that's what I was reading the news.

01:03:16.000 Same.

01:03:17.000 And then you get into it, and you're like, oh, wait a minute.

01:03:19.000 Oh, hold on.

01:03:20.000 And then they released the dash cam footage, the police footage of when they arrested him.

01:03:26.000 Not dash cam, you know, whatever the cops are wearing.

01:03:29.000 I know what you're talking about.

01:03:30.000 I thought the exact same thing.

01:03:32.000 It's crazy, but it's just like, you can't just go on narratives, because these narratives are just designed to make the Trump administration look like monsters.

01:03:42.000 I was giving an interview to this woman from the New York Times.

01:03:46.000 And she's like, well, don't you see this?

01:03:47.000 And I was like, I do see it, and I don't understand it, and I wish it would be different.

01:03:50.000 But then you get into the lesser evils.

01:03:52.000 I wrote her back and I was like, I don't agree with my previous position based on the current information available to me now.

01:04:00.000 Yeah, it seems like he was a gang member.

01:04:01.000 But then there was that gay hairdresser that seems like he just got roped up. 0.98

01:04:06.000 I know.

01:04:06.000 And what I have learned so far, because I've really been trying to get to the bottom of that one, because I don't understand why the left isn't leaning on that one.

01:04:13.000 The other guy beats his wife, suspected trafficker.

01:04:16.000 You want to be outraged? 0.99

01:04:18.000 This guy is a gay hairdresser. 0.97

01:04:20.000 I guess he committed—I was listening to Tim Poole talk about this—immigration fraud. 0.96

01:04:26.000 So, listen, that guy's a tough one.

01:04:29.000 Okay, but that doesn't belong in an El Salvador prison.

01:04:31.000 I agree with you completely.

01:04:32.000 Also, he's not even from El Salvador.

01:04:34.000 So, breaking this down, the one thing I'll say is, you know, I will clarify, just in case I spoke poorly, my argument on the gay hairdresser was that if he entered the country illegally through the southern border— With the intention of falsely claiming asylum so he could just be an economic migrant here, that would be fraud. 0.85

01:04:55.000 However, I do agree.

01:04:56.000 I mean, it is fascinating the left isn't leaning on that story because we don't have a lot of details about it.

01:05:00.000 He was adjudicated to be an MS-13 gang member.

01:05:03.000 I'm sorry, was it MS-13 or Trendy at Rodway?

01:05:05.000 He has the crowns.

01:05:06.000 MS-13.

01:05:07.000 Are you talking about the hairdresser?

01:05:08.000 Hairdresser.

01:05:09.000 The hairdresser, I think, had the crowns.

01:05:10.000 He had the crowns on his wrist.

01:05:11.000 And so there is a challenge there.

01:05:13.000 I even asked the Secretary at Nome about this.

01:05:16.000 But anyway, more to the point.

01:05:18.000 What I found fascinating with this clip is it has been 10 years of the Trump era, and still to this day, Joe, and I mean this with no disrespect, of all people, read the news and thought it was true that this guy was just from Maryland.

01:05:35.000 That was the purpose of the Maryland man hoax.

01:05:37.000 So the two things that I wanted to get out on this one with this segment, the reason why I want to talk about this, guys, their strategy, the Maryland man hoax, was working.

01:05:46.000 They were convincing people that this guy, like, I'm going to say again, you know, Phil, I think you asked this earlier in the show, if, like, the left just believes crazy things, you have that, right?

01:05:56.000 Is that why we have this culture?

01:05:57.000 And I largely believe that it's true.

01:05:59.000 The example being Hassan Piker.

01:06:02.000 Guys, I know I bring him up because this is a really great example.

01:06:05.000 He genuinely believed this guy was from Maryland.

01:06:10.000 I would be mad too if the news came out that Trump...

01:06:14.000 Rounded up an American citizen and sent him to an El Salvadoran prison?

01:06:18.000 I'd be saying like, what do you mean you're not getting him back?

01:06:21.000 What?

01:06:21.000 This is crazy.

01:06:21.000 But then it's like, oh, he's Salvadoran.

01:06:24.000 Oh, he was here illegally.

01:06:24.000 Oh, they found him to be a gang member.

01:06:26.000 Oh, he was arrested with gang members.

01:06:27.000 Oh, he beats his wife on multiple occasions.

01:06:29.000 And he was deported due to an administrative error.

01:06:31.000 So it wasn't a crime.

01:06:33.000 It was a mistake.

01:06:34.000 What's the problem?

01:06:35.000 That was the goal of their hoax.

01:06:37.000 But I want to stress, thanks to all of you guys, everybody who watches this show.

01:06:41.000 And the work of all of the alternative media space calling out the Maryland man hoax, we've shattered that narrative.

01:06:47.000 We have shattered their attempt to lie.

01:06:49.000 And you can see now Jillian Michaels saying she called back the New York Times and said, I don't stand by that anymore.

01:06:54.000 I take back.

01:06:56.000 Amazing.

01:06:56.000 So you information vaccinated Jillian Michaels?

01:07:01.000 How's it feel, Dr. Tim?

01:07:02.000 I don't think I did, actually.

01:07:04.000 I think they both said they believed it.

01:07:07.000 So it's antibiotic, because then she said after she watched you.

01:07:10.000 There we go.

01:07:11.000 But I do want to stress, because she did say I was listening to Tim Pool, and I guess he committed immigration. 0.60

01:07:16.000 I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:07:17.000 My argument is, like, the reason why we deport these people is they illegally enter the country through the southern border, then afterwards try and falsely claim asylum when they don't actually need it.

01:07:27.000 If he came from Venezuela and was in Mexico, Mexico's awesome. 0.84

01:07:31.000 Guys, have you been to Mexico?

01:07:33.000 Yeah.

01:07:34.000 No.

01:07:34.000 Have you?

01:07:34.000 No?

01:07:35.000 Phil?

01:07:35.000 And I don't want to go.

01:07:35.000 It is awesome.

01:07:36.000 Where in Mexico did you go?

01:07:37.000 I went to Mazunte.

01:07:40.000 Oh, wow.

01:07:41.000 That sounds cool.

01:07:41.000 Mazunte's sick.

01:07:42.000 Yeah.

01:07:42.000 Is that just resort areas?

01:07:43.000 I think resort areas in Mexico might be awesome, but Mexico proper probably sucks.

01:07:47.000 Well, I've also been to Tijuana and I did not like Tijuana, but I love Mazunte.

01:07:51.000 I almost moved there.

01:07:52.000 Is that a resort area?

01:07:53.000 It's not resort.

01:07:54.000 I mean, at least at the time it wasn't.

01:07:55.000 It's just like a small beach town.

01:07:57.000 I went to one of the resort areas.

01:07:59.000 I think it was Temecula.

01:08:00.000 I'm not sure.

01:08:01.000 That might be wrong, though.

01:08:02.000 But I also went to Mexico City.

01:08:04.000 I've been to Aguascalientes.

01:08:06.000 I went to Monterey.

01:08:07.000 You've been everywhere.

01:08:08.000 You've played everywhere.

01:08:09.000 Look, I'll just say this.

01:08:11.000 Obviously, there's bad crime-ridden cartel areas in Mexico, but nobody goes like, oh, I don't know. 1.00

01:08:16.000 America sucks. 0.99

01:08:17.000 Don't go to Detroit. 1.00

01:08:18.000 It's like, no, America's great.

01:08:19.000 Here's where you go.

01:08:20.000 Mexico's got great places.

01:08:21.000 My point being, this Venezuelan guy who travels from Venezuela through Central America, through Mexico, All these countries claiming, oh, I'm being persecuted in my home country.

01:08:33.000 Okay, Mexico's right there, bro. 0.90

01:08:35.000 They got buffalo wild wings.

01:08:36.000 It's fantastic.

01:08:38.000 Why don't you stay there?

01:08:39.000 Why did you illegally enter the United States?

01:08:42.000 My argument is, I would argue that is fraud, not that he was convicted or charged with having committed fraud.

01:08:50.000 Can I actually just, you know, we talked about this Judge Dugan case where she tried to help this illegal immigrant escape. 0.68

01:08:56.000 And now we're talking about this case where people are rallying around Abrego Garcia rather than the hairdresser.

01:09:02.000 And there's this very strange—I want to get your guys' thoughts on this thesis.

01:09:06.000 There's this very strange worldview on parts of the left where they celebrate the worst of them.

01:09:14.000 Yeah.

01:09:14.000 And they actually shunned the best of them.

01:09:16.000 Right.

01:09:17.000 So, like, they pushed RFK away.

01:09:20.000 They pushed Tulsi Gabbard away.

01:09:21.000 Today, I don't know if you guys saw this David Hogg thing.

01:09:23.000 Yes!

01:09:23.000 I don't have a super high opinion of him, but one of the things I've heard is like, okay, there's some sanity left on the left.

01:09:29.000 They're kicking him out now.

01:09:30.000 They kick him out too.

01:09:31.000 It's like, you guys are actually...

01:09:33.000 Self-defeating.

01:09:34.000 This whole worldview is self-defeating and no one is actually responsible for their own decision.

01:09:39.000 If you're a criminal, it's probably because you're just disadvantaged.

01:09:42.000 You're not responsible for anything if you had bad starting conditions.

01:09:46.000 Yeah, I think it's very strange, and I think Jillian correctly observed, yeah, why are they rallying around this guy when they have a better alternative right next to him?

01:09:54.000 So I think it's actually a political strategy to try to pick one of the worst peoples, to try to open up the Overton window as far as you can go.

01:10:02.000 I think for the gay hairdresser, it might have been too simple of an issue.

01:10:06.000 For this other guy, they were trying to really have people sympathize with a gang member, but that really widens the Overton window and allows them to do more.

01:10:16.000 That's a really good point.

01:10:17.000 The fact that he was a gang member was the intent so that they could create a scenario where people would have to...

01:10:23.000 They wanted Democrats to be tribally defending a gang member.

01:10:27.000 Yeah.

01:10:28.000 And then you can justify anything.

01:10:29.000 If a gang member is not responsible for his crimes, then who's responsible for anything?

01:10:35.000 Illegal gang members deserve full due process like they're American citizens.

01:10:38.000 Let's think about the strategy. 0.87

01:10:39.000 The strategy would be, okay, if they go with the gay hairdresser guy... 0.99

01:10:43.000 Then the argument is, okay, Trump can deport all the criminals. 0.99

01:10:46.000 Everybody worse.

01:10:47.000 So if they go with the worst criminal, first you say he's a Maryland man.

01:10:51.000 All the liberals then defend him.

01:10:53.000 Then when the news breaks that he's a criminal, which the Democrats and the prominent liberals want to happen, they then say it's not about whether he's a criminal.

01:11:02.000 Like you said, it's about due process.

01:11:04.000 The liberals will tribally then double down and say it is fine.

01:11:08.000 And this will shift the Overton window towards we must protect MS-13 gang members because they deserve rights like everybody else.

01:11:15.000 And then they'll gaslight you.

01:11:16.000 Oh, it barely said MS-13.

01:11:17.000 It was just marijuana, smiley face, cross, and a three, like, on his hands.

01:11:22.000 Skull.

01:11:23.000 So it's just like, you know, so they'll try to use this ambiguity.

01:11:26.000 Oh, his girlfriend or wife at the time called the police because maybe he beat him or beat her or something.

01:11:31.000 So, yeah, I think it strikes in the face.

01:11:33.000 So I think it's, again, a kind of way, a political strategy. 0.97

01:11:37.000 And it's because it's not even for when the left tries to say that police also will kill unarmed black men.

01:11:46.000 They'll pick like the worst cases or picked armed black men to show them killing to try to perpetuate this narrative.

01:11:54.000 It's an interesting theory, and I don't know if I have to push back or just comment on something you just said, because I'm not sure what you actually believe on this.

01:12:03.000 I think due process is important.

01:12:05.000 I think, you know, the Constitution guarantees due process for everyone.

01:12:08.000 I think what's not being talked about is what is due process in each case?

01:12:12.000 Because due process for an illegal...

01:12:14.000 Gang member is not necessarily the same as a due process for an American citizen.

01:12:18.000 Okay, exactly.

01:12:19.000 It's literally not.

01:12:20.000 Yeah, it's qualitative.

01:12:22.000 It's like a fair process.

01:12:23.000 A fair process, it varies based on the situation.

01:12:26.000 So yeah, I think it's fair to say this guy deserves due process, of course.

01:12:29.000 But what's happening is, yeah, they're using due process as a Trojan horse to try to convince you that, yeah, he's just a Maryland man.

01:12:36.000 Or, yeah, there's no reason to believe that he's in the country illegally or all these other things.

01:12:40.000 You know what I think this is?

01:12:42.000 There's a loss of the understanding of root language.

01:12:46.000 And so what ends up happening is someone – when I was a kid, the teenage girls in my high school thought the word ignorant meant rude. 0.97

01:12:55.000 They didn't understand because they just heard someone say a racial slur and then someone responded, that's ignorant. 0.52

01:13:02.000 And the intention was that person doesn't understand what they're doing.

01:13:05.000 They hear it and the context is rude.

01:13:06.000 So what happens is people hear the phrase due process and they think it's Latin.

01:13:10.000 They think it means some Latin term, mens rea.

01:13:14.000 It's just a legal term that means you get a trial.

01:13:17.000 Due process is a literal English phrase.

01:13:21.000 We don't even need to say due process.

01:13:22.000 We can say fair hearing.

01:13:23.000 We can say fair process.

01:13:26.000 It is the process you are due under the law.

01:13:28.000 It's not universal.

01:13:30.000 Due process literally just means legal processes that you are due.

01:13:40.000 Think due process means trial.

01:13:41.000 Exactly.

01:13:42.000 And I'm seeing on Twitter, on X, liberals will be like, why aren't they getting due process?

01:13:46.000 And they'll say, I'll see a response from a conservative guy being like, illegal immigrants shouldn't get trials.

01:13:50.000 And I'm like, you're arguing two different things.

01:13:53.000 The legal and fair process by which a person goes through our legal system to determine whether they're right, wrong, deportable, or criminal is due process.

01:14:03.000 Not getting due process means...

01:14:05.000 You are not treated fairly.

01:14:06.000 That's all it means.

01:14:07.000 I agree.

01:14:08.000 I think it's a level of due process.

01:14:09.000 I think illegal immigrants should get a different level of due process.

01:14:15.000 I gotta stop you there.

01:14:17.000 Once again, the phrase due process is being used as a Latin term.

01:14:23.000 They should get a different level of what is fair for them.

01:14:26.000 No, everybody should get what is fair for them.

01:14:29.000 Due process means fair treatment of the law.

01:14:31.000 That's all it means.

01:14:32.000 Illegal immigrants, what is fair? 1.00

01:14:34.000 An ICE agent will review their status, determine if they're a citizen, and if not, and if they've been here less than two years, expedited removal.

01:14:41.000 That is due process.

01:14:42.000 It is the fair treatment of the law that they receive based on the codified law set forth by Congress and the Constitution.

01:14:47.000 I agree.

01:14:48.000 It's a linguistic trap that I see many conservatives falling into where they're arguing that due process is not due when they need to argue, no, due process is being served and this is what's due process in this case.

01:14:59.000 Exactly.

01:15:00.000 And the argument for like, okay, how are we going to remove 10 to 20 million people in the country?

01:15:04.000 We can give them all due process and due process might mean a day in court rather than this years long thing that we have to do that makes it impossible to...

01:15:12.000 This is the game they're playing.

01:15:15.000 Donald Trump made a statement.

01:15:16.000 We shouldn't give trials to every illegal immigrant. 0.98

01:15:19.000 The media then came out and said Trump is trying to deny due process to illegal immigrants because they want to shift the Overton window and convince you that we cannot deport a person without a trial.

01:15:31.000 Trump was saying...

01:15:32.000 And they're pulling them out of context.

01:15:35.000 Why would we have a trial for illegal immigrants? 1.00

01:15:37.000 It would take forever.

01:15:38.000 The context of what Trump is saying is, we don't give illegal immigrants trials.

01:15:42.000 Why would we start now?

01:15:43.000 The media misrepresents what he's saying so that they can try and make the argument that it is normal for all illegal immigrants, all the time, everywhere, to get a trial with a judge.

01:15:52.000 Nope.

01:15:53.000 Sometimes you go to an ICE agent and he goes, not a citizen?

01:15:56.000 On the plane.

01:15:57.000 That's your due process.

01:15:58.000 That's your due process.

01:15:59.000 Yep.

01:15:59.000 Expedited removal.

01:16:00.000 That's why words matter.

01:16:02.000 Yeah.

01:16:02.000 And, you know, having gone through all of this and even gone through debates, there are a bunch of different ways that individuals get different degrees of due process.

01:16:11.000 If you've been here longer than two years, you get a hearing.

01:16:13.000 You can actually argue for a hearing.

01:16:14.000 If you're being deported under the Alien Enemies Act, which Trump just won that court case, the judge sided with him.

01:16:21.000 She still said, if a person is to be deported under AEA, they can challenge it.

01:16:26.000 That's one of the reasons why Trump was trying to avoid using AEA in some circumstances.

01:16:31.000 Because Alien Enemies Act deportation says you are an invader of this country to which they can say, oh yeah, prove it.

01:16:38.000 Whereas if Trump just says we've reviewed your citizenship and you are ineligible to be in the United States so you're being deported, they don't get a hearing.

01:16:46.000 I think there is also something to say about the amount of illegal immigrants that we have in our country isn't going to be able to be handled by the way we currently have our laws set up. 0.99

01:16:56.000 The current system was not set up to be able to give whatever level of due process or however we were going to break it down to 20 million people.

01:17:06.000 I'm stopping you right now.

01:17:07.000 You did it again.

01:17:08.000 It's the level of due process?

01:17:09.000 You said we weren't going to be able to give due process.

01:17:12.000 Wrong.

01:17:13.000 Level of.

01:17:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:17:16.000 You misunderstand.

01:17:17.000 Due process just means what is fair under the law.

01:17:19.000 We always, in this country, 100% of the time, seek to give people what is fair under the law.

01:17:24.000 Only when there's malicious prosecution or errors do people not get what's fair under the law.

01:17:29.000 There was never a circumstance by which Trump was going to give people less due process.

01:17:33.000 We will always, 100% of the time, as a country, functionally give illegal immigrants their due process. 0.95

01:17:40.000 Because illegal immigrants abused our immigration laws so aggressively, I think we need to change the way, legally, how we do due process for some of these illegal migrants. 1.00

01:17:50.000 But we don't, because due process is already a subjective thing.

01:17:54.000 Like, we got to choose what we consider a fair...

01:17:56.000 Hearing, trial, it can be more than that.

01:17:58.000 So I think what Tim is saying is there's not levels of due process.

01:18:01.000 It's that...

01:18:02.000 The due process under the law, but the law needs to...

01:18:04.000 No, no, no.

01:18:05.000 There's not levels of due process.

01:18:07.000 Due process is a blanket term that means you'll be treated fairly.

01:18:10.000 That's it.

01:18:10.000 That's all it means.

01:18:11.000 Let's just say fair process, right?

01:18:13.000 We can give everyone a fair process, but a fair process for, I don't know, tax evasion might look different than a fair process for entering the country illegally.

01:18:22.000 And I do think we need to change something about the courts in order to process this many people who are here illegally. 1.00

01:18:27.000 But I think it's actually just expand the capacity of the courts.

01:18:31.000 This is not enough judges.

01:18:32.000 You can't do enough hearings.

01:18:33.000 It needs to be at least 10x.

01:18:35.000 But we can give everyone due process, and we should.

01:18:38.000 Yeah, it's like the process due to you.

01:18:40.000 The process due unto you.

01:18:41.000 It's not like a thing.

01:18:42.000 It's a process that we are going to give you.

01:18:44.000 Like you said, we've decided upon that already.

01:18:45.000 Just say, instead of saying due process, say treated fairly.

01:18:49.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:18:50.000 The illegal immigrants who come here will be treated fairly.

01:18:52.000 I think the illegal immigrants who come here are treated too fairly under the law. 1.00

01:18:57.000 And they abused our immigration law.

01:18:59.000 And if we don't change the way we do it, the President Trump won't be able to effectively deport 20 million illegal immigrants.

01:19:06.000 It's not that they're being treated too fairly.

01:19:08.000 It's that all you're saying is we should make it easier to deport them. 0.62

01:19:12.000 Yes.

01:19:13.000 Once again...

01:19:14.000 I agree.

01:19:14.000 In many words.

01:19:15.000 Every legalese.

01:19:16.000 Right.

01:19:16.000 And I think it's important because it's crazy how the left is using this.

01:19:20.000 The reason why I'm harping on it so much, and I know it might just be semantics, is because the left is using exactly what you're saying.

01:19:26.000 They're going to clip what you said and said, here's a conservative saying, let's do process.

01:19:31.000 And then they're going to go to their fans and they're going to say, they're literally saying that they're not going to treat you fairly under the law.

01:19:37.000 That they're going to create special classes of citizens who get special treatment.

01:19:41.000 No, no, no, no.

01:19:42.000 An illegal immigrant will always get due process.

01:19:45.000 And what is that due process?

01:19:46.000 An ICE agent will say, are you a citizen?

01:19:48.000 They'll say no, and they'll say, on the plane.

01:19:50.000 That's it.

01:19:51.000 Like that.

01:19:52.000 That's due process.

01:19:53.000 No judge, no hearing, nothing.

01:19:55.000 Yeah, and part of the problem with this term is it's not well defined.

01:19:58.000 It's like saying systemic racism.

01:20:00.000 What does that actually mean?

01:20:01.000 No one knows what it means, but people get upset about it, and you keep on moving the goalpost on what's enough.

01:20:06.000 So I agree.

01:20:08.000 We should identify what is the minimum threshold for what we consider fair, and it might be a few hours talking with an ICE agent.

01:20:16.000 I leave that up to the administration to decide, and do that, and say we can do that, and let's like...

01:20:21.000 Got the business here.

01:20:22.000 Let's jump to this next story from the Postmillennial.

01:20:26.000 Bud Light parent company to invest $300 million to manufacture in the U.S. This new $300 million investment in our manufacturing facilities across the U.S. Will it work?

01:20:38.000 That's not going to fix Dylan Mulvaney.

01:20:40.000 I don't think it will.

01:20:41.000 I think Bud Light's screwed.

01:20:42.000 I do think less people care than most people think. 0.74

01:20:47.000 I go out to any bar or any casino, and everybody's drinking Bud Light.

01:20:53.000 However, they have not recovered from the damage caused by Dylan Mulvaney.

01:20:57.000 They're now announcing they're going to do this big investment in the United States.

01:21:00.000 Anheuser-Busch, InBev's, North American Brands.

01:21:02.000 That's a good question.

01:21:10.000 Yeah.

01:21:11.000 I think so.

01:21:12.000 No.

01:21:17.000 I think Bud Light is still the piss beer of choice among, you know, most Americans.

01:21:22.000 If I'm just looking for a piss beer to drink real quick, I'll sip on a Bud Light if I need to.

01:21:27.000 It's kind of whatever's there.

01:21:28.000 So, like, Bud Light, boom, alright, whatever.

01:21:31.000 Like, good overliable, bad beer.

01:21:33.000 We did an event right after the dilemma of anything happened.

01:21:37.000 And, like, we had to talk to the bar about it because they had Bud Light prominently displayed.

01:21:42.000 And we were like, it's probably a bad idea.

01:21:44.000 Like, look, honestly, I don't care if people want to buy a Bud Light.

01:21:47.000 I mean, they probably get laughed at.

01:21:48.000 And then they took all the display Bud Lights down and said, like, we're a bar.

01:21:52.000 We're not going to just throw out all our Bud Light, but we get it.

01:21:55.000 And I was like, hey, man, I don't care if you show it or don't, but I'm just, you know, like, I'm wondering what you guys think.

01:22:01.000 And they thought it'd probably be smart to get rid of the Bud Light.

01:22:04.000 I didn't realize there's still a hangover from the whole dilemma of anything.

01:22:08.000 I don't know the last time I even had Bud Lights.

01:22:10.000 I'm the wrong audience.

01:22:11.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:22:12.000 It's that young people don't drink.

01:22:14.000 Yeah.

01:22:16.000 Well, they're not even going outside, so...

01:22:18.000 Maybe this is the problem.

01:22:20.000 Maybe the reason the younger generation isn't getting laid is because they just don't go outside and get drunk.

01:22:24.000 Well, yeah, actually.

01:22:27.000 Where would you get drunk and laid? 0.74

01:22:29.000 College.

01:22:30.000 They canceled college for a year.

01:22:31.000 You know, they say that civilization owes everything to beer because it was the humans that stopped to ferment the wheat and the barley and stuff to make beer that resulted in...

01:22:42.000 Agrarian society and civilization and towns.

01:22:45.000 Humans used to be nomadic.

01:22:46.000 And then they were like, wait, we can't leave.

01:22:47.000 We got all this beer.

01:22:49.000 Could it also be that the only reason people have kids is because they get drunk?

01:22:53.000 I'm half kidding, by the way.

01:22:55.000 That's a little rapey, but...

01:22:57.000 What do you mean?

01:22:58.000 Well, that's because the left would call that rapey. 0.84

01:23:00.000 They'd say, oh, you know, if you're in any way inebriated, then you can't consent.

01:23:06.000 And if you can't consent, then it's a sexual assault.

01:23:09.000 No, no, no.

01:23:09.000 Phil, the woman is getting the man drunk.

01:23:11.000 Oh, fair enough.

01:23:12.000 The woman's not sober.

01:23:14.000 Well, if you're progressive enough, then, you know, the woman getting the man drunk is also... 0.99

01:23:18.000 It's still a problem.

01:23:18.000 Yeah, it's still a problem.

01:23:20.000 But it is true. 0.90

01:23:21.000 I mean, there's a lot of social interactions that wouldn't have happened unless people had a couple drinks.

01:23:28.000 And it's very normal.

01:23:30.000 As much as the left wants to try to demonize you for it, it's very normal for someone to go ahead and be like, you know what?

01:23:34.000 I'll have a couple drinks.

01:23:36.000 So that way my inhibitions are, I'm not so self-conscious, my inhibitions are a little bit lower and I can go talk to people and I can, you know, hang out with people.

01:23:44.000 Remember this one?

01:23:44.000 Exactly, exactly.

01:23:46.000 Super viral, this was a poster at, what was it, Columbia?

01:23:50.000 Coastal Carolina University.

01:23:51.000 It said, Jake was drunk, Josie was drunk, Jake and Josie hooked up, Josie could not consent, the next day Jake was charged with rape.

01:23:59.000 A woman who is intoxicated cannot give her legal consent for sex, so proceeding under these circumstances is a crime. 0.98

01:24:04.000 It only takes a single day to ruin your life.

01:24:06.000 This is another point I make about wokeness.

01:24:08.000 People need to understand.

01:24:10.000 Woke wasn't always race.

01:24:12.000 Like, the left culty nonsense was very much the Me Too movement with things like this.

01:24:18.000 Illogical, unjust, and it was gender-based. 1.00

01:24:22.000 So, there you have it.

01:24:24.000 And I think the Gen Z kids who grew up with this took it to heart, and that's why they hide. 1.00

01:24:27.000 Yeah, I mean, imagine you're a young boy who sees this kind of propaganda your whole life.

01:24:34.000 Of course, you're going to be afraid of women. 0.62

01:24:36.000 Of course, you're going to be afraid that she's going to accuse you of something that you didn't do years later.

01:24:40.000 Of course, you're not going to want to even try because even trying is considered creepy or considered in some way toxic masculinity.

01:24:48.000 And then women wonder, well, where are all the men?

01:24:51.000 This propaganda is preventing boys from even wanting to be men and take risks and put themselves out there.

01:24:56.000 And both women and men are suffering.

01:24:58.000 So I hope people see this and they realize, oh, okay, well, why do we have a decline in birth rate?

01:25:03.000 Why are people not actually connecting?

01:25:05.000 Why are people not in relationships?

01:25:06.000 It's this kind of rhetoric that doesn't have compassion for either side and treats the man always as some sort of toxic aggressor and always the woman is completely abnegating all responsibility.

01:25:16.000 It's killing both of us.

01:25:18.000 Well, it treats women as if they're consistently, you know, things are happening to them as opposed to actually having any kind of agency. 0.99

01:25:28.000 But as soon as they want to have agency, of course, they have to be, you know, looked at as a strong woman that can, you know, boss bitch kind of thing. 1.00

01:25:36.000 But then in any context in which they don't want to deal with their repercussions, and society really encourages this kind of behavior, but any situation where women don't want to deal with the repercussions, well, then they were victims. 0.57

01:25:50.000 They were somehow put in this position.

01:25:53.000 It was put upon.

01:25:54.000 It wasn't their fault.

01:25:55.000 Yeah.

01:25:56.000 But if you just awkwardly ask a woman out...

01:26:11.000 Like you mentioned, you're risking your reputation.

01:26:14.000 You're risking all kinds of social repercussions.

01:26:18.000 And that's the way that women punish people and each other is through social interactions. 1.00

01:26:24.000 And so the value for a man to young men to go and actually ask women out, it's a really, really dicey proposal.

01:26:32.000 And they're deciding that porn and video games is...

01:26:38.000 Better than risking being embarrassed.

01:26:40.000 Considering that millennials are only just now having kids and it's still at very low rates and Gen Z is not having kids either, Gen Beta is probably going to be 30 million.

01:26:54.000 Gen Alpha is 40. Some say it could go upwards of 48 maybe if we add another year or two to the bracket.

01:27:01.000 But then Gen Beta is going to be microscopic.

01:27:05.000 Nobody's having kids.

01:27:06.000 And this is, people don't understand, there's this great post by, who posted this?

01:27:13.000 I can't remember who posted it.

01:27:15.000 It was like a Milton Friedman thing about a pencil.

01:27:17.000 Let me see if I can find this one.

01:27:18.000 Do you know that saying?

01:27:19.000 Where no one can make a pencil?

01:27:21.000 Yeah.

01:27:22.000 Or it takes a whole world to make a pencil.

01:27:25.000 Austin Peterson posted it.

01:27:26.000 There you go.

01:27:27.000 And let me see if I can pull it up.

01:27:29.000 It's that no one can make a pencil.

01:27:31.000 It is through economics.

01:27:32.000 He posted it the other day.

01:27:36.000 I am somebody who is pro-choice, but I think there's something to be reckoned with about the consequences of giving women such easy access to be able to control their ability to reproduce. 0.85

01:27:48.000 So 20 years ago, teen pregnancy used to be everywhere.

01:27:51.000 Teen pregnancy used to be a huge thing. 1.00

01:27:53.000 They used to have a show on MTV, Teen Mom, I think it was.

01:27:56.000 There are no teen moms anymore. 1.00

01:27:59.000 All the young women, all women in their teens are on birth control if they are having sex. 0.98

01:28:05.000 And if they do get pregnant or aborting their kids or they don't even have to have a surgical procedure, they could just use the abortion pill or Mifepristone, which the Trump administration recently struck down a lawsuit to help restrict.

01:28:19.000 So, while being pro-choice, I still understand that there are consequences to abortion and access to abortion pills and contraceptives have on birth rates.

01:28:30.000 I know that's so obvious to say, but still, I think we need to look at from a bird's eye view, if that makes sense.

01:28:37.000 Like, women's ability to stop themselves from getting pregnant affects birth rates. 0.95

01:28:43.000 Yes.

01:28:44.000 Can I tell you a story?

01:28:45.000 Actually, Tim, do you have a thing that you wanted to show?

01:28:48.000 No, I couldn't find it.

01:28:49.000 I was going to say real quick, the point of the pencil thing I was bringing up is that when the population shrinks, our ability to produce technologies goes with it.

01:28:56.000 So you're not going to have PlayStation.

01:29:00.000 The less people there are, the closer you're going to get to working on a farm.

01:29:03.000 So I want to tell you guys a story.

01:29:05.000 Can I do that?

01:29:05.000 Yeah.

01:29:06.000 Okay, so two weeks ago I was in Japan and I went to Osaka.

01:29:11.000 So dope.

01:29:12.000 And I was just walking around with some friends and we met these girls. 0.98

01:29:15.000 And they're like 22, 23, one from Canada, one from the US.

01:29:19.000 So we're just, you know, joking around, having a good time. 0.98

01:29:24.000 And then eventually I hear one of the girls say, Trump and JD Vance need to die. 0.90

01:29:30.000 Top of her lungs. 0.69

01:29:31.000 We're like walking around Osaka.

01:29:33.000 She says it once.

01:29:33.000 I'm like, what is going on?

01:29:34.000 She says it again.

01:29:36.000 I don't know if it was after that second time or the third time that I confronted her about it.

01:29:41.000 Not aggressively, but it's like...

01:29:42.000 Hey, what's going on here?

01:29:44.000 I made a joke about, do you hate men?

01:29:46.000 Or do you hate Republicans?

01:29:47.000 What's going on here exactly?

01:29:49.000 All of a sudden, the conversation devolved into a conversation about abortion.

01:29:53.000 Now, my position is like yours.

01:29:55.000 I think it's just untenable for women to not have the right to choose. 1.00

01:29:59.000 I think an abortion is always a tragedy, though, and I would like to see women choosing to have abortions much less.

01:30:05.000 93%, at least 93% of abortions are not medically necessary.

01:30:08.000 It's just a choice.

01:30:09.000 And I get why women make the choice. 1.00

01:30:11.000 It can be scary to bring a child into the world.

01:30:13.000 I think many men are abandoning their duty of helping to protect and provide.

01:30:16.000 I understand why women do it. 1.00

01:30:18.000 And it's always a tragedy, regardless of the reason.

01:30:21.000 They were, of course, not able to listen to me, and they kept on trying to yell me down.

01:30:25.000 Eventually...

01:30:26.000 I keep explaining, hey, I'm just pro-choosing life.

01:30:28.000 I'm not telling you you shouldn't have the right to choose.

01:30:30.000 I'm just saying men and women need to work together so we have fewer abortions.

01:30:34.000 I sideline with one of the women. 1.00

01:30:36.000 The other one was having nothing to do with me at that point.

01:30:38.000 I sideline with one of the women, and she tells me at age eight, her mom told her that she almost aborted her.

01:30:45.000 Wow.

01:30:45.000 This woman had just argued vehemently for abortion.

01:30:50.000 While telling me that her mom had almost not brought her into this world.

01:30:53.000 And when I pointed out the contradiction, she tried to justify it.

01:30:57.000 It's like, well, it would have been the right choice if my mom chose to make it.

01:31:00.000 It's like, sorry, I'm not going to buy into the delusion that any world in which you don't exist is a better world.

01:31:06.000 That's insane.

01:31:07.000 Especially for that person to say of themselves.

01:31:09.000 Exactly.

01:31:10.000 So, self-loathing, frankly.

01:31:11.000 Exactly.

01:31:12.000 But this is what's happening to young women.

01:31:14.000 Young women, look, women are two times more likely to be anxious than men.

01:31:19.000 Women are more susceptible to psychological manipulation. 1.00

01:31:22.000 That's okay because women have other things that they're good at relative to men. 1.00

01:31:25.000 I don't want a man taking care of my child in daycare. 1.00

01:31:28.000 I want a woman doing that. 1.00

01:31:29.000 But it used to be that men and women worked together.

01:31:31.000 Men could protect women from these dangerous, toxic ideas.

01:31:35.000 But now it's like, yeah, go be a boss, babe.

01:31:37.000 You don't need a man. 0.89

01:31:39.000 Go work.

01:31:40.000 Climb the corporate ladder.

01:31:41.000 Then they realize they don't even want to do that when they're age 30. And yeah, birth control, which they're taking from the time that they get a period, It's distorting who they're even attracted to, so they're not attracted to masculine men anymore, and it's teaching women that having a child is the end of your life, when no, it's the beginning of another. 0.62

01:31:58.000 So yeah, there's this very insidious thing that's going on with this.

01:32:04.000 It's a thing behind wokeism, which is extinctionism, really, in my mind.

01:32:09.000 You know, having a kid recently, I think the pro-life side is really bad at articulating.

01:32:17.000 They're arguments.

01:32:18.000 They can't communicate effectively with liberals.

01:32:21.000 And I saw this – did you see this Charlie Kirk debate on abortion that went viral recently because the guy said he thinks that life doesn't begin until consciousness forms?

01:32:30.000 And then Charlie says, so you'd be fine if you were six months, the baby being killed?

01:32:34.000 And he says, yes.

01:32:36.000 So the issue is for these people.

01:32:38.000 Because Vosh, for instance, argued this.

01:32:40.000 I think he argued it on this show when he was debating Charlie Kirk, actually.

01:32:43.000 Or with me, maybe.

01:32:44.000 I said, when does life begin?

01:32:45.000 He says, sometime after birth.

01:32:48.000 When?

01:32:51.000 You know, the fascinating thing is, babies have personalities.

01:32:55.000 And what's happening is, these liberals have not ever been around a baby.

01:32:59.000 They've not spent time with babies.

01:33:02.000 They don't know that babies are people that literally act like people.

01:33:07.000 And I know that everybody's got kids and they're like, we all know this already.

01:33:11.000 For me, hearing the pro-life arguments never articulate simple things like babies technically are talking the whole time.

01:33:21.000 They're communicating with you.

01:33:23.000 What the left then does is they argue that for the first three months, babies can't actually form any real memories and they don't talk, they don't do anything.

01:33:31.000 So they're not really alive.

01:33:32.000 That's literally the argument they're making.

01:33:33.000 That's how they justify abortion to the point of birth. 0.90

01:33:37.000 Whereas if, you know, the pro-life side largely just says life begins at conception.

01:33:42.000 I got a better argument.

01:33:44.000 My daughter doesn't use words, but she's talking.

01:33:47.000 And so in the past week or so, she started communicating vocally as she was already communicating non-vocally, but I wouldn't call it verbally.

01:33:57.000 So for instance, first she cries.

01:34:00.000 And we get it, a baby crying because the baby needs something.

01:34:03.000 I think liberals can get that.

01:34:04.000 But I'm learning a lot.

01:34:06.000 So, for instance, at like two and a half months, my daughter started going, and we know literally what she's saying.

01:34:16.000 So, for instance, we do tummy time.

01:34:18.000 That's when you put the baby on the stomach so that she can learn to crawl and lift her head and start building those muscles. 0.99

01:34:22.000 You do it for short periods.

01:34:25.000 At first, she would cry when she got tired.

01:34:27.000 Now she goes, and we're like, I don't care what language you're speaking. 0.57

01:34:34.000 If a French guy exasperated in that way, in French, I get the point. 1.00

01:34:39.000 So what I'm learning is, and again, I know parents already know all this stuff.

01:34:44.000 I'm saying, from what I've learned, I would advocate for pro-life individuals to use that knowledge in their arguments.

01:34:51.000 So when a liberal says, life doesn't begin, no.

01:34:55.000 Babies are vocally communicating with you right away.

01:34:59.000 And they have personalities.

01:35:01.000 So there's a lot of people around us are having babies.

01:35:04.000 I won't get into people's private lives and talk about who's having what, but there are other babies here.

01:35:08.000 And the personalities are totally distinct.

01:35:10.000 At a month, one month, there are distinct human personalities and behaviors.

01:35:14.000 Like, these are human beings.

01:35:16.000 Just because they don't speak your language right now doesn't mean they're lesser than this.

01:35:20.000 And I would just say I think pro-lifers should utilize those arguments more.

01:35:24.000 I agree.

01:35:25.000 I think the pro-life arguments, they're just not made well.

01:35:29.000 No, they're very cold.

01:35:32.000 Yeah.

01:35:32.000 But life begins at conception, therefore life is worthy of legal protections.

01:35:36.000 That's not an argument you're going to give to a liberal who only cares about emotion and feelings.

01:35:41.000 You're going to show them a video of a baby trying to talk and being like, explain to that person, that person right there.

01:35:48.000 Make it an emotional argument.

01:35:49.000 I think men encouraging...

01:35:51.000 Women they knock up to have the children that they got pregnant with instead of encouraging them to abort. 0.99

01:35:58.000 The children that he got her pregnant with is what's really going to push this over the edge.

01:36:03.000 I think women are led by men. 0.99

01:36:05.000 I think men are natural leaders and women are kind of natural followers.

01:36:08.000 And if men push women in a certain direction, that's the direction they'll go in oftentimes. 0.99

01:36:13.000 I think men have a big responsibility to play here too.

01:36:16.000 We put a lot of pressure on women. 1.00

01:36:18.000 They go through a lot here too.

01:36:20.000 Right, but the state has replaced men.

01:36:21.000 Yes.

01:36:22.000 And the women are a function of the state. 1.00

01:36:25.000 So what it used to be is that there was a patriarchy, and the men would fight and die to keep women safe.

01:36:32.000 And who brought this up?

01:36:35.000 Somebody, someone mentioned, someone, this is an argument somebody made, that history, human society and gender norms was men building fences around their home to protect their women and their children.

01:36:47.000 And then...

01:36:50.000 Feminism was a woman coming up and convincing the woman she was being oppressed by being in the fence. 1.00

01:36:54.000 So the woman tears the fence down and then gets eaten by wolves. 1.00

01:36:57.000 I saw that and I tweeted it.

01:36:59.000 I don't remember.

01:36:59.000 You tweeted that.

01:37:00.000 I tweeted it though.

01:37:01.000 Right, right, right.

01:37:01.000 Yeah, I remember that one.

01:37:03.000 And yeah, these feminists are being... 1.00

01:37:06.000 So the issue is women are now voting. 1.00

01:37:09.000 They're voting in systems of control in government.

01:37:12.000 And I know men vote too.

01:37:14.000 But I'm saying that women are largely Democrat. 1.00

01:37:16.000 Men...

01:37:17.000 Yo, this is going to be crazy.

01:37:18.000 Gen Z men are on the right, Gen Z women are on the left. 0.99

01:37:21.000 So it's going to be real weird in the next 20 years.

01:37:25.000 But they're voting in systems of control and power that men adhere to.

01:37:28.000 So men are getting their directions from women now. 0.98

01:37:30.000 So like when that thing we showed where it's like Josie and Jake were drunk and then Josie was raped, but Jake is the rapist.

01:37:36.000 That means there is a bunch of guys wearing badges who are going to say what happened.

01:37:42.000 And Jake and Josie are going to be like, we were both drinking at a party and hooked up. 0.98

01:37:45.000 And the cops are going to go, yep, Jake, you're a rapist. 0.98

01:37:47.000 You're under arrest. 0.99

01:37:48.000 And that is the fault of men.

01:37:49.000 Women are directing society and they can't even decide where they want to go for dinner. 1.00

01:37:53.000 I think there's something... 0.95

01:37:54.000 Back on that poster, I don't think it's rape if both of them were drunk and they ended up having sex.

01:37:59.000 But I do think Jake has a little bit more to do with it.

01:38:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:38:04.000 Because Jake probably was the one who would hit on her and initiate the whole thing.

01:38:08.000 And if you know how sex work, it's usually the man who's, you know... 0.83

01:38:12.000 So I think men have more... 1.00

01:38:13.000 Because men are leaders.

01:38:14.000 Men are the people who...

01:38:15.000 You can't treat the law that way. 0.99

01:38:16.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

01:38:17.000 There are numerous... 0.95

01:38:17.000 There's... 0.95

01:38:18.000 I mean...

01:38:19.000 No, no, no.

01:38:19.000 I didn't say there was a rape.

01:38:20.000 And I didn't say both of them being drunk.

01:38:22.000 No, and you're wrong.

01:38:23.000 Women hit on guys all the time at drunk frat parties. 1.00

01:38:25.000 Sure.

01:38:26.000 College parties, there's men and women looking to hook up.

01:38:28.000 No, I think men and women are different, I guess is my point, and they behave different socially, and there's social consequences to that, if that makes any sense. 0.57

01:38:36.000 Listen.

01:38:36.000 And more men hit on women than women hit on men.

01:38:38.000 And again, I'm not saying that it was rape because they were both drunk.

01:38:42.000 Women hit on men differently than men hit on women, but women absolutely hit on men. 0.80

01:38:47.000 Absolutely.

01:38:48.000 It's just different, and you have to understand how women hit on men. 0.74

01:38:53.000 I think so.

01:38:55.000 Here's where I agree with you.

01:38:57.000 Men and women are different, right? 0.93

01:38:59.000 Men are on offense. 0.75

01:39:00.000 Women are on defense. 1.00

01:39:01.000 That's just how it works all the time.

01:39:03.000 From a legal standpoint, though, we can't treat men and women differently when it comes to the legal standard.

01:39:08.000 No, no, no.

01:39:08.000 And again, I'm not saying that there's any law-breaking, but I think we should acknowledge men and women are different and play different roles.

01:39:15.000 And I don't think men...

01:39:16.000 Again, I don't think men and women... 1.00

01:39:17.000 It's so-called equal.

01:39:19.000 It's a complicated thing.

01:39:20.000 What does it mean to be equal?

01:39:20.000 It's actually a really interesting point that that poster, which was a product of the left, was very gender stereotypical.

01:39:25.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:39:26.000 The poor woman is so weak. 1.00

01:39:27.000 Gender roles. 1.00

01:39:28.000 Right.

01:39:29.000 But you do like them.

01:39:30.000 All right, everybody.

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01:39:46.000 Phil was laughing earlier.

01:39:48.000 It's a project that I've been working on for a very, very, very, very short amount of time that you're going to enjoy and I'll get in trouble for.

01:39:56.000 But let's read your chats.

01:39:57.000 For a very, very short amount of time.

01:39:59.000 Indeed.

01:40:01.000 Let's read your Rumble rants. 1.00

01:40:03.000 Shadich Wilder says, Tapper thinks everyone is too stupid to see Biden wasn't fit. 0.99

01:40:07.000 March 19th, 2021, Biden fell up the stairs. 0.99

01:40:11.000 He said to a crowd, Trinidad is shot by the pressure.

01:40:14.000 Trinidad is shot by the pressure.

01:40:15.000 To quote Joe, come on, man.

01:40:17.000 We still sell Sleepy Joe decaf at Casper.com.

01:40:22.000 Concrete Hades says, Elad, the white thing on the table may have been a snot rag, but there are videos of basically everyone in that meeting repeatedly wiping their noses as if they had just recently snorted a line.

01:40:30.000 So I think this is part of the issue.

01:40:32.000 So now people genuinely believe, again, so he's admitting that it wasn't a bag on the table.

01:40:38.000 It's just, oh, because people were sniffing, now we're going to accuse world leaders of doom blow.

01:40:41.000 So I don't know.

01:40:42.000 Maybe it's because I think of myself a little bit as a journalist that I think we need to have evidence to reach these conclusions.

01:40:48.000 It seems like a sweeping conclusion to come to.

01:40:52.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:40:53.000 And again, it's the people who are advancing this stuff who you might need to ask yourself, oh, can I trust this person when he tweets stuff out, if he's willing to put forth such obviously wrong things?

01:41:04.000 Does this person have my best interest in mind?

01:41:07.000 I agree.

01:41:07.000 I was fooled.

01:41:08.000 I originally thought it was a Coke bag, and then I realized it's a tissue, so I can see how people do that.

01:41:14.000 Matt Seaman.

01:41:16.000 He says, Tim, just wondering if I can get a birthday shout-out at the ballpark celebrating the big 3-0.

01:41:22.000 Shout out, brother.

01:41:23.000 Happy birthday.

01:41:24.000 I am jealous.

01:41:26.000 I would love to be chilling at a ball game right now.

01:41:28.000 You see those things where they have the cup and then the straw goes, there's like a little dish that goes on top of the cup and it's got like nachos and like a hot dog on it.

01:41:37.000 That's so great.

01:41:38.000 That's so American.

01:41:39.000 We've been talking about going to a big ball game for a long time.

01:41:43.000 Ball games are so much fun.

01:41:45.000 We gotta do it.

01:41:45.000 I hope so.

01:41:47.000 It doesn't matter really which teams are playing.

01:41:50.000 It'd be cool to go.

01:41:54.000 Considering the Nationals, no one ever goes to see the Nationals.

01:41:57.000 Who cares?

01:41:58.000 You can go see the Dodgers when they come through to play the Nationals, or the Red Sox, or the Yankees when they come through to play the Nationals.

01:42:05.000 I think it'd be great.

01:42:06.000 We've been talking about trying to do a big thing with everybody for a while, but we should never get around to it because we're so busy all the time.

01:42:11.000 I work mornings and nights, so how am I supposed to go to a baseball game during the week?

01:42:14.000 Can't do it.

01:42:15.000 I'm not a big baseball fan, but I've been to a few games, and it's all about chilling in the stands with the boys, getting drunk, casually watching.

01:42:22.000 I'm not even watching the show.

01:42:23.000 Just messing with your boys.

01:42:24.000 Oh, someone hit a home run.

01:42:26.000 Oh, my God.

01:42:26.000 Until you're stuffed.

01:42:27.000 You know, getting chilled, chilling with the boys in the stands, drinking, sipping, brews.

01:42:32.000 Nothing better.

01:42:33.000 All right.

01:42:33.000 Soapy, anyway, let's check out the Boonies HQ and its Discord.

01:42:36.000 That's boonieshq.com.

01:42:38.000 It's a skateboarding branch of Timcast.

01:42:40.000 We're getting the Discord fixed and events are happening.

01:42:42.000 Boonies is growing.

01:42:43.000 So Boonies is a separate company, so it's a different membership program, a different Discord and all that stuff.

01:42:50.000 But, you know, I've got to be honest.

01:42:53.000 Skateboarding may be an Olympic sport.

01:42:55.000 They're expecting billions to be invested in it.

01:42:59.000 But there's no young people.

01:43:02.000 So we do board sales.

01:43:04.000 And here's the secret to skateboard sales.

01:43:06.000 Skateboards have always been art pieces on the wall.

01:43:09.000 So the boards that sell the best are the ones that people can buy to hang on the wall.

01:43:13.000 They buy it one time, they never buy it again.

01:43:15.000 You're not going to make a designer graphic with some crazy stuff and then get one person to buy 50 versions of it.

01:43:19.000 It happens, but it's super rare.

01:43:21.000 So for us, we're trying to do the skate company, and every day we're just like, gentlemen, there's only 40 million Gen Alpha.

01:43:28.000 Who is going to be skateboarding?

01:43:30.000 We are going to have to get around 40% Of Gen Alpha to skate to replace the existing skateboard market.

01:43:39.000 Good luck.

01:43:40.000 That's because of how few people are.

01:43:41.000 And then Gen Beta is going to be the same thing.

01:43:43.000 So I'm kind of thinking maybe the reason that the ultra-wealthy are building these bunkers is not because the poles are going to shift, not because of climate change, but because they're not going to be able to manufacture video games, antiseptics.

01:43:59.000 Ammunition.

01:44:00.000 So they're stocking up on these things right now because population collapse means it is going to get expensive or just non-existent.

01:44:09.000 Like, bro, I don't even know what's in these monitors in front of me or how they're made.

01:44:14.000 I have a general idea.

01:44:15.000 These are, I believe these are, what, LEDs?

01:44:19.000 The only, if trends continue, the only hope is that there's actual automation, like actual humanoid robots.

01:44:28.000 That are, you know, you can have, like, AI teachers.

01:44:33.000 You know, think about how sad that's going to be.

01:44:35.000 You know, maybe that's a good, you know, I say this all the time, we gotta get a producer to help us make these short films, because I got, you know, the short film idea I got right now is The Last Human, and it's just all these AI machines watching one guy who's dying, and he gives a thumbs up as it, like, plugs his brain into the VR for one last time.

01:44:54.000 Because where we're going is, yeah, sure, great, we're gonna automate all this production.

01:44:58.000 But there's no people.

01:45:00.000 Like, people is life.

01:45:03.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:03.000 Like, there's no people.

01:45:04.000 What are we doing?

01:45:05.000 And so, what?

01:45:07.000 In 100 years, the population of Earth is 7 million, and they're largely isolated from each other, living in virtual reality.

01:45:15.000 And then 100 years from then, the population of Earth is 3,000, and it's a highly mechanized, automated robot planet.

01:45:21.000 The robots are colonizing other things, and the last remaining humans are just like, plug me in, baby.

01:45:27.000 You know what's happening though?

01:45:28.000 Third world don't have that problem. 1.00

01:45:30.000 People in the third world, they have plenty of kids.

01:45:32.000 But they're still dramatically down.

01:45:35.000 Like even in Africa, it's like it used to be 12. Like 40 years ago, now it's like three.

01:45:39.000 I did not know that.

01:45:39.000 Yeah, so it is true that the population is still growing relative to everybody else.

01:45:44.000 Still declining though.

01:45:45.000 Who knows?

01:45:46.000 Maybe what ends up happening, maybe the Tesla robot doing the dances.

01:45:50.000 Maybe the answer to Fermi's paradox is that...

01:45:53.000 Any sufficiently advanced species, the wealthiest, will go into behavioral sync, destroy themselves, and then the lesser developed parts of that species will just lose all technology and then revert back to natural states.

01:46:08.000 The great filter is much lower than we think.

01:46:12.000 The great filter is an extinction event.

01:46:14.000 Yeah, but we wouldn't be able to get past to the first level even because we won't be able to get off the planet because of the population crash once.

01:46:21.000 The filter's not so much that humans go extinct, but that wealthy humans stop reproducing.

01:46:26.000 Or wealthy, like, advanced elements of the species engage in behavioral sync.

01:46:31.000 Yeah.

01:46:31.000 So it's actually not an issue of physical destruction, like we nuke ourselves or something, but psychological destruction.

01:46:36.000 Yeah.

01:46:37.000 Wow.

01:46:39.000 Well, we better fix our mindset.

01:46:40.000 Start having babies. 0.52

01:46:42.000 All the Red Gear fans are just thinking about Mouse Utopia right now.

01:46:44.000 Mouse Utopia always comes back.

01:46:46.000 Mouse Utopia.

01:46:47.000 Yeah, you know that book, Mouse?

01:46:50.000 That the left is always raging about?

01:46:51.000 No. 0.98

01:46:52.000 It's where the cat is Hitler and then the mice are Jews or whatever. 0.97

01:46:55.000 Oh man. 0.91

01:46:56.000 Jesus.

01:46:57.000 You've never seen the N-A-U-S? 0.95

01:46:59.000 And I feel like that's anti-Semitic to compare Jews to mice, frankly. 0.98

01:47:03.000 Rats. 0.99

01:47:04.000 Rats.

01:47:04.000 Even worse.

01:47:05.000 And this from the left?

01:47:08.000 Yeah, let me see if...

01:47:09.000 Nope, we don't want that.

01:47:11.000 Are you surprised?

01:47:12.000 I mean, kind of.

01:47:13.000 I mean, I gotta be honest.

01:47:14.000 Do you get explicit about it?

01:47:15.000 I gotta be honest, like, I don't know anything about the book.

01:47:17.000 I don't want to... 0.94

01:47:17.000 But yeah, it is rats. 0.94

01:47:20.000 Yeah, here you go.

01:47:21.000 And are they made to look like them?

01:47:23.000 Okay.

01:47:24.000 Well, they do have long snouts there. 0.89

01:47:26.000 What are the ratings like?

01:47:28.000 The ratings?

01:47:29.000 Yeah, what are people saying?

01:47:30.000 I think like the left...

01:47:32.000 Oh, this is...

01:47:32.000 I think it's made by a Jew, Art Spiegelman.

01:47:35.000 They could get away with that.

01:47:36.000 They can get away with it.

01:47:40.000 All right, see what we got.

01:47:42.000 Barry N. McGowan says, Tim, I truly believe white people don't hate blacks and black people don't hate whites.

01:47:47.000 The one thing that both races hate is the system that pits them against each other.

01:47:50.000 What say you?

01:47:52.000 I don't think it's as simple as to say yes or no.

01:47:55.000 I think there are racist people and there are not racist people.

01:48:01.000 It doesn't matter what race you are. 0.63

01:48:03.000 So some people see the system and don't want to fight.

01:48:06.000 Some people want to fight.

01:48:09.000 But I'd imagine if we took like one person of each race and then like babies. 0.97

01:48:17.000 And then drop them in like a biodome where they had no contact with the outside world, they wouldn't be racist.

01:48:24.000 Of course not.

01:48:24.000 Because there's no people to be racist to.

01:48:26.000 There's only one guy who's Asian.

01:48:28.000 That's just Jim, you know?

01:48:30.000 I think there's a lot of racial tension in this country and it would be dishonest to tell you otherwise.

01:48:35.000 I mean, I'd wish for it to be different and I wish no people were bigoted towards each other, but I feel like that's just denying the facts of our...

01:48:45.000 Ooh, ooh, here's one.

01:48:46.000 Barry and McGowan.

01:48:47.000 Barry McGowan says, Tim, if white people were so racist, then why did Obama get elected twice? 0.94

01:48:51.000 He cheated. 0.79

01:48:54.000 Does that count as an answer?

01:48:56.000 I don't think he cheated.

01:48:57.000 I'm kidding. 0.95

01:48:58.000 There could still be racism despite having elected a black president. 0.88

01:49:04.000 I don't know.

01:49:04.000 Of course there is.

01:49:06.000 I'll say this.

01:49:07.000 I actually think the U.S. is one of the least racist countries on earth.

01:49:10.000 That can be true too.

01:49:11.000 Those things can be true at the same time.

01:49:12.000 I think what is actually happening is because we care so much about racism.

01:49:17.000 I just went to Japan.

01:49:18.000 They don't care about racism because they're all Japanese.

01:49:20.000 They're racist, but they don't actually exhibit racist tendencies. 0.72

01:49:23.000 They're not interacting with people who are not Japanese.

01:49:24.000 They're racist towards people who aren't there, though. 0.99

01:49:26.000 The Japanese are very racist. 1.00

01:49:28.000 I went with my brother, and he was sitting next to a Japanese person on a train, and he saw the Japanese person send a racist meme of a black person to their friend. 0.92

01:49:36.000 It was kind of funny.

01:49:38.000 And in America, because we're so...

01:49:41.000 We care so much about not having racism that anytime it shows up at all, we talk about it a lot.

01:49:46.000 But yeah, I think some of this is just social media distortion.

01:49:49.000 It's honestly not that bad.

01:49:51.000 And there's work to do, but I think we don't need to hyperbolize everything and act like we're worse off than we used to be.

01:49:57.000 I would say as a black person, this is definitely the best time to be black.

01:50:00.000 So I think within living memory, there was segregation.

01:50:03.000 I think it ended with the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

01:50:06.000 So again, like facts on the ground.

01:50:09.000 There is some racial tension within our country.

01:50:13.000 I gotta stop you there.

01:50:13.000 Not that we can't get past that.

01:50:15.000 Segregation did not end with the Civil Rights Act, and there still is segregation.

01:50:20.000 So the important thing to understand is we've codified against it, but it still happens.

01:50:25.000 So blockbusting and redlining were happening into the 80s.

01:50:29.000 So that was the intentional actions of market industries in the housing market to make sure that whites and blacks were segregated, not in the bathrooms geographically.

01:50:41.000 So they were still saying, okay, if we can't keep you out of our business, we'll just move you so far away from the business, you can't show up anyway to create white neighborhoods and black neighborhoods. 0.99

01:50:50.000 That still happens today.

01:50:51.000 And I love this story.

01:50:53.000 This woman who worked for, I think she worked for Vice. 1.00

01:50:57.000 She was this Latina chick. 1.00

01:50:58.000 She was woke as they come.

01:51:01.000 And she owned a building in New York that was gifted to her by her wealthy parents.

01:51:06.000 And she was talking all about this racism stuff and all the problems.

01:51:09.000 And I asked her, I was like, if a black family moved next door to your building, what would you sell? 0.99

01:51:13.000 And she goes, yeah, of course.

01:51:14.000 And I was like, why?

01:51:15.000 She goes, because the property value is going to go down. 0.99

01:51:17.000 And I was like, the property value is going to go down because people like you desperately try to sell when black people move in. 1.00

01:51:23.000 She's like, look. 0.64

01:51:24.000 I understand racism is a problem, but I'm not going to lose money on my property for whatever that is.

01:51:28.000 And I'm like, yeah, okay. 0.71

01:51:30.000 These people are racist.

01:51:31.000 I think it takes time for racial division intention to heal. 0.96

01:51:35.000 Brown v. 0.75

01:51:35.000 Board of Education was only ruled in 1954. 0.75

01:51:38.000 I guess people would have to be really old to still remember something like that.

01:51:42.000 And the critical race theorists think that it was ruled incorrectly.

01:51:46.000 Yeah.

01:51:47.000 Look, the fact of the matter is the way that we treat racism in the United States, racism is the worst thing imaginable.

01:51:53.000 Murder is worse than racism.

01:51:55.000 Like, rape is worse than racism. 0.71

01:51:57.000 Actual physical violence is worse than someone that has a bad opinion.

01:52:02.000 And the way we behave as if racism is like the worst thing, you have to look at it in context and treat it for what it is.

01:52:10.000 It's someone being crappy to someone else. 0.99

01:52:13.000 If they're not actually being violent, then you can just be like, alright, well, he's a dick, you know? 0.99

01:52:18.000 Joe Biden served with segregationists. 0.99

01:52:20.000 Alright, I think I've read it.

01:52:21.000 I gotta read this one because, again, guys, the reason why I went over the issue of due process often is because people can't comprehend it.

01:52:29.000 I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be mean to anybody, but people literally can't comprehend what due process means.

01:52:34.000 Again, they think it's like a Latin phrase that implies a court trial.

01:52:38.000 Mark Clancy says, why would there be any reason to give due process?

01:52:41.000 They are not being sentenced to prison.

01:52:43.000 Their property is not being taken.

01:52:44.000 They are just getting a free ticket to the country they are from.

01:52:47.000 Then that is the due process!

01:52:50.000 Okay.

01:52:51.000 Stop thinking of due process as one word and think of due as in what is a person due and what is the process by which we determine whether or not they're allowed to be here.

01:53:00.000 The due process would then be like literally saying I walk to the store.

01:53:06.000 Like, people can't comprehend it.

01:53:09.000 I don't know how much further I could simplify it.

01:53:13.000 Can I give a framing?

01:53:15.000 Yeah.

01:53:15.000 Okay, so what's a fair process in a civil case versus a criminal case?

01:53:20.000 Obviously in a criminal case there's a lot more that has to happen.

01:53:23.000 You need to prove that someone did something beyond reasonable doubt.

01:53:26.000 You go through a lot more legal proceedings for a criminal case.

01:53:29.000 In both civil and criminal cases, we give due process, but what happens that we call due process is different.

01:53:35.000 So I think what this gentleman is not understanding is that you can give due process to illegal immigrants, and you have to because that's in the Constitution.

01:53:43.000 But the thing that you call due process might be a lot less than you would do if someone, again, cheated on their taxes.

01:53:49.000 Just call it the process a person is due.

01:53:52.000 Illegal immigrants, what is the process that is due to them? 1.00

01:53:56.000 Having an ICE agent review their paperwork and kick him out of the country in two hours.

01:54:00.000 That is the process that is due to an illegal immigrant who was here for less than two years. 0.98

01:54:04.000 It's called expedited removal.

01:54:06.000 So when you say, why would there be any reason to give due process, it is a nonsensical statement.

01:54:10.000 Why would there be any reason to literally ask if a person is a non-citizen?

01:54:15.000 Let's put it that way.

01:54:16.000 The process that is due to an illegal immigrant is for an ICE agent to say, are you a citizen?

01:54:21.000 Yes or no?

01:54:22.000 And if not, deport them.

01:54:23.000 Now let's take that.

01:54:24.000 Remove the phrase due process and replace it with its mechanism.

01:54:27.000 And I'll read what a Superjet says. 0.53

01:54:29.000 Why would there be any reason for an ICE agent to ask a person if they're a citizen or not?

01:54:33.000 They are not being sentenced to prison.

01:54:35.000 Their property is not being taken.

01:54:36.000 They're just getting a free ticket to the country they are from.

01:54:39.000 Why would an ICE agent ask if a person is a citizen or not?

01:54:42.000 That is the process due to an illegal immigrant. 0.97

01:54:45.000 And after that process, which is due, is delivered, they put them on a plane and send them back to their home country. 0.99

01:54:51.000 But people keep thinking the phrase due process means going to court.

01:54:54.000 It does not.

01:54:56.000 And then conservatives go on X and get roped into by liberals into inadvertently arguing to give illegal immigrants trials.

01:55:05.000 Here we go.

01:55:07.000 C 'est la vie. 0.99

01:55:08.000 Ridiculous. 0.69

01:55:09.000 And that's the actual discussion we should be having, which is what is sufficient due process in this case, not whether we should be assigning due process.

01:55:16.000 It's much simpler, and that's the discussion that both sides should be having, but they're not.

01:55:19.000 Based African says, I know the story was from yesterday, but I don't think bringing in the African refugees was a good idea. 1.00

01:55:24.000 There's a pause on accepting refugees and making an exception for white Africans is terrible optics, even if it proved Dems are racist.

01:55:31.000 However, Donald Trump signed an executive order in January to pause refugee resettlement.

01:55:36.000 However, within a week or two, signed another executive order saying exceptions will be made for South Africans.

01:55:41.000 And in the initial order, he did say there were always going to be exceptions.

01:55:45.000 The initial order on refugee resettlement said, Largely, we're going to stop refugee resettlement, except in certain circumstances.

01:55:51.000 Then, like two weeks later, he said, here's one of those circumstances, white Afrikaners, because of what's going on.

01:55:57.000 So, more importantly, a judge stayed those orders, and there is currently no pause on accepting refugees.

01:56:05.000 That's the important distinction.

01:56:07.000 Trump wants it to be.

01:56:08.000 There is not.

01:56:09.000 I think what Trump is doing is basically like, hey, we're going to freeze refugees.

01:56:14.000 A judge said, no, you're not.

01:56:15.000 And then Trump said, okay, bring in the white people.

01:56:17.000 I think that was the play he made.

01:56:19.000 It's fascinating how worked up people are getting over literally 50 South Africans.

01:56:24.000 I wonder where we were.

01:56:26.000 I think it's 59. 59. It's really telling how worked up they're getting.

01:56:32.000 20 million unvetted random people?

01:56:35.000 Who cares?

01:56:36.000 59 South Africans.

01:56:37.000 We don't need more POSs like Surge in this country, I guess. 1.00

01:56:40.000 Well, because it's a proxy for the concern that Trump is a white supremacist.

01:56:43.000 No, this Surge guy.

01:56:44.000 That's the actual concern.

01:56:46.000 I'm not saying it's a valid concern.

01:56:47.000 That's where it's actually coming from.

01:56:49.000 I thought he was a woman this morning with this long hair.

01:56:51.000 They're bringing this transgender ideology into our country. 1.00

01:56:54.000 Uh-oh, Elad.

01:56:55.000 Christo Brun says, What?

01:57:03.000 Repeat that question?

01:57:06.000 Oh, I mean, I don't think Phil would use his status as a rock star.

01:57:14.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

01:57:16.000 Women prowling. 0.99

01:57:18.000 Oh, women prowling on them? 1.00

01:57:20.000 Phil, you're a good-looking guy, but, you know.

01:57:23.000 Doesn't matter when you're on stage.

01:57:24.000 That's so true. 0.99

01:57:27.000 Iggy Pop is ugly as sin, that man.

01:57:31.000 You're putting me up against stiff competition with Phil, so maybe next time he goes to a show, he could say I'm part of the band. 0.68

01:57:36.000 There we go.

01:57:37.000 I got your back.

01:57:38.000 So, I'll tell you a story.

01:57:40.000 When I was a teenager, I was hanging out at the skate park, and one of the kids who skated there, we were all teenagers, was like, he's like, hey, I invited this girl to come skate with us.

01:57:52.000 And so he's like, just be cool, you know, guys, because, like, you know, I want to date her and everything.

01:57:56.000 So then I went to the other kids.

01:57:58.000 There's, like, four or five of them, and I was like, okay, here's what we're going to do.

01:58:01.000 Literally, no matter what trick he does, scream and cheer and act like it's the craziest trick you've ever seen.

01:58:07.000 And so dude drops in on the mini-ramp, and he does, like, something that's, like, not really good at all.

01:58:12.000 And we're going, ah!

01:58:14.000 And then, like, she's standing there, and then I'm looking at her, and I'm like, dude, he's so good.

01:58:19.000 This is crazy.

01:58:21.000 You know, he's the rock star.

01:58:24.000 Those are real friends.

01:58:26.000 They understand.

01:58:27.000 And he had no idea what was going on.

01:58:29.000 He was just like, yeah, guys, thank you.

01:58:32.000 Did he get the girl?

01:58:33.000 I don't know.

01:58:34.000 As a teenager, they probably went and got a milkshake or something.

01:58:36.000 It was in the suburbs of Chicago.

01:58:37.000 Nothing untoward.

01:58:40.000 And they probably went and got a Coke.

01:58:42.000 And the story with the wholesome end.

01:58:45.000 There you go.

01:58:46.000 I mean, I literally think it was a wholesome end.

01:58:48.000 Suburb kids weren't doing drugs and doing crazy stuff.

01:58:51.000 They were scared to hold hands.

01:58:52.000 Of course.

01:58:54.000 He married her.

01:58:55.000 I mean, I haven't seen the guy in 30 years, so...

01:58:59.000 Man, that's crazy.

01:59:00.000 Not 30 years.

01:59:01.000 20-something years?

01:59:02.000 25 years?

01:59:03.000 How old am I?

01:59:05.000 Wow.

01:59:06.000 Don't think about it.

01:59:07.000 I don't.

01:59:08.000 It's all Fermi's paradox, but not Tim's age.

01:59:10.000 Yep.

01:59:11.000 Nope.

01:59:12.000 All right, let's grab some more.

01:59:14.000 Based to Africans back, he says, affirmative action was good, but it should have had a sunset clause because it's inherently racist. 0.59

01:59:19.000 Same for a potential federal abortion law. 0.99

01:59:22.000 If it's inherently racist, why have it to begin with?

01:59:24.000 All the laws should have sunsets.

01:59:27.000 All of them.

01:59:28.000 That I'm open to.

01:59:29.000 Every single one.

01:59:30.000 Even murder.

01:59:31.000 You had the same idea.

01:59:33.000 If it's racist, if you're acknowledging that it's racist, why have it to begin with?

01:59:36.000 I think even murder should have a sunset.

01:59:39.000 Like, literally every 10 years, they should have to go over the bill and then reassess the amount of time they're giving people, where they're, like, what are the general rules and the codification of how murder is handled in this country?

01:59:51.000 And when you don't sunset laws, you have Trump able to go back to 1798 for the Aliens Act or whatever to deport people.

01:59:58.000 So, yeah.

01:59:59.000 Yes, but murder is older than that.

02:00:01.000 So when people are like, it's an old law, and I'm like, there's older laws.

02:00:04.000 Yeah.

02:00:05.000 And to this based African, I think he's making some... 1.00

02:00:09.000 Good comment.

02:00:10.000 So good job, Based African. 1.00

02:00:12.000 If something is racist, we should not do it at all.

02:00:15.000 Not do it for a certain amount of time and then sunset it.

02:00:17.000 So instead, let's figure out not racist ways to help everyone in this country.

02:00:21.000 I guess to steelman the argument, though, is there any...

02:00:25.000 Obligation that the country has to so-called right the wrongs that it's perpetuated against black people specifically?

02:00:34.000 No, I think the government has a responsibility to make an equal environment where everyone has an opportunity to succeed, not...

02:00:41.000 Right past wrongs.

02:00:42.000 So, for example, let's say black people came out of slavery and for whatever reason were immediately making as much money as white people and just like it's almost as if slavery hadn't happened.

02:00:51.000 You wouldn't then go say, well, you still have to give black people something because of something that happened in the past.

02:00:56.000 So the actual issue is that people are not giving equal opportunities to thrive in present day.

02:01:02.000 And there's a variety of ways you can solve it.

02:01:04.000 It doesn't have to be on a racial basis.

02:01:06.000 It can be on a socioeconomic basis.

02:01:07.000 I actually think that reparations need to be paid by the South and the slaves who are freed to the families of people whose ancestors died fighting to free them.

02:01:21.000 I don't actually think that, but you can see the argument.

02:01:23.000 If you're going to argue that we deserve something from your government, the counter is going to be, okay, well, my great-great-great-grandfather, his brothers, they died to free your ancestors, so what do I get for that?

02:01:36.000 My ancestor was left as a widow with no one and was starving and nearly died.

02:01:44.000 This country went through hell.

02:01:46.000 How many people died?

02:01:47.000 Like one point something million?

02:01:48.000 In the Civil War?

02:01:50.000 I think more.

02:01:52.000 1.2, was it?

02:01:55.000 Let's get the number.

02:01:57.000 Oh, no.

02:01:58.000 Around 700,000 deaths, I believe.

02:02:01.000 For all sides?

02:02:02.000 Yeah.

02:02:03.000 What percentage of the population was that?

02:02:06.000 Between 600 and 1 million total deaths.

02:02:10.000 I don't know, but a lot.

02:02:14.000 And I mean...

02:02:14.000 So, look, I don't mean that literally.

02:02:16.000 I just think that we're not going to move forward as a country if everyone's trying to argue why they're owed something from 200 years ago. 0.95

02:02:21.000 That's ridiculous. 0.54

02:02:22.000 Like, you know, I have an ancestor. 0.93

02:02:25.000 I believe my ancestry is on both sides of the Civil War.

02:02:29.000 I'm not going to make an argument.

02:02:31.000 2.5%.

02:02:32.000 2.5%.

02:02:32.000 I'm not going to make an argument that...

02:02:35.000 Oh, I just found out that I have an ancestor who was a captain in the American Revolution.

02:02:40.000 That means everybody should have to pay me because, you know...

02:02:42.000 Immigrants who come here should have to pay descendants who fought the revolution. 1.00

02:02:46.000 Like, it's ridiculous.

02:02:47.000 I don't even know the guy's name. 1.00

02:02:48.000 You know, it kind of sucks.

02:02:50.000 It'd be great if we did know our family histories because it's a powerful thing.

02:02:53.000 But I don't know.

02:02:54.000 I'm not going to complain about it.

02:02:55.000 Imagine if I went back to the Korean side of my family and started going after Japan. 0.75

02:02:59.000 Japan?

02:02:59.000 You've got to pay.

02:03:01.000 Why?

02:03:02.000 Come on.

02:03:05.000 We're moving paths and trying to build relationships and ties and trade.

02:03:09.000 We're going to go to the Uncensored show right now, my friends.

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02:03:56.000 Kaizen, do you want to shout anything out?

02:03:58.000 Thanks for having me, first of all.

02:03:59.000 So shout out to you.

02:04:00.000 This is my first time in a studio with a political podcast, so it's been a lot of fun.

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02:04:06.000 It's been really, really great.

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02:04:21.000 You're a very sharp guy, and I'm sure you're going to have a lot of success in this space because you're so eloquent.

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02:06:00.000 All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the uncensored portion of the show.

02:06:05.000 So I've made a video game.

02:06:07.000 I have made a video game that I think I can make available to all of you.

02:06:14.000 And I'm going to play this video game for you.

02:06:17.000 And I'm going to show you just how great it is.

02:06:18.000 Oh, we're still muted.

02:06:20.000 Well, everyone else can still watch.

02:06:22.000 Do you have a name for it?

02:06:24.000 The game is called Border Guard.

02:06:26.000 And I'm not going to say much else because I'd rather you all just watch the video game in action and see for yourself.

02:06:37.000 So I will start by saying this.

02:06:40.000 I programmed a video game called Border Guard using the assistance of Gemini, which is Google's AI.

02:06:49.000 And I would like to also add that if Google was aware of what the game represented, Refuse to make it.

02:06:58.000 And they'll probably get really mad at me if they find out we did it.

02:07:04.000 That's how awesome it is.

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02:07:21.000 You know, I'm gonna get in trouble for this game.

02:07:23.000 I actually don't think...

02:07:24.000 I'm not really worried about any kind of cancellation or anything, but I would like to have people take this game and, like, I'll give them the code or whatever.

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