00:31:57.160Like, I've noticed that as soon as that shit came out, like, anybody that was, like, anti-government in any way, they're like, oh, here's a Russian troll right here.1.00
00:44:43.680yeah equitable social justice climate change this is starting out rough very rough right
00:44:58.260and like why is elon talking about it that's that's the the issue like what if shut up just0.99
00:45:05.360focus on your fucking trucks that look like they're built with playstation 2 graphics1.00
00:45:12.120and fuck off said that that trump sales tax would actually result for middle-class families1.00
00:45:22.000in about four thousand dollars more a year because of his policies and his ideas about what should be0.99
00:45:31.200the backs of middle-class people paying for tax cuts for billionaires president trump i'll give
00:45:37.420you two minutes first of all i have no sales tax that's an incorrect statement she knows that
00:45:41.940we're doing tariffs on other countries. Other countries are going to finally, after
00:45:46.08075 years, pay us back for all that we've done for the world. And the tariff will be substantial in
00:45:53.360some cases. I took in billions and billions of dollars, as you know, from China. In fact,
00:45:57.840they never took the tariff off because it was so much money they can't. It would totally destroy
00:46:02.160everything that they've set out to do. They're taking in billions of dollars from China and
00:46:06.620other places. They've left the tariffs on. When I had it, I had tariffs and yet I had no inflation.
00:46:11.940Look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster, it breaks up countries.
00:46:19.800We have inflation like very few people have ever seen before, probably the worst in our nation's history.
00:46:26.240We were at 21 percent, but that's being generous because many things are 50, 60, 70 and 80 percent higher than they were just a few years ago.
00:46:34.420This has been a disaster for people, for the middle class, but for every class.0.74
00:46:38.160On top of that, we have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums.0.96
00:46:47.420And they're coming in and they're taking jobs that are occupied right now by African Americans and also unions.0.97
00:46:55.680Unions are going to be affected very soon.0.58
00:47:39.260Let's talk about what Donald Trump left us.
00:47:43.280Donald Trump left us the worst unemployment since the Great Depression.
00:47:48.460Donald Trump left us the worst public health epidemic in a century.
00:47:55.020Donald Trump left us the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War.
00:48:02.080And what we have done is clean up. What we have done and what I intend to do is build on what we know are the aspirations and the hopes of the American people.
00:48:13.080But I'm going to tell you on this debate tonight, you're going to hear from the same old tired playbook, a bunch of lies, grievances and name calling.
00:48:22.160What you're going to hear tonight is a detailed and dangerous plan called Project 2025 that the former president intends on implementing if he were elected to again.
00:48:33.920I believe very strongly that the American people want a president who understands the importance of bringing us together.
00:48:41.800No, we have so much more in common than what separates us.
00:48:45.000And I pledge to you to be a president for all Americans.
00:48:48.060President Trump will give you a minute here to respond.
00:48:49.620Number one, I have nothing to do. As you know, and as she knows better than anyone, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. That's out there. I haven't read it. I don't want to read it purposely. I'm not going to read it. This was a group of people that got together. They came up with some ideas, I guess some good, some bad, but it makes no difference. I have nothing to do. Everybody knows I'm an open book. Everybody knows what I'm going to do. Cut taxes very substantially and create a great economy like I did before.
00:49:15.340We had the greatest economy. We got hit with a pandemic. And the pandemic was not since 1917, where 100 million people died. Has there been anything like it? We did a phenomenal job with the pandemic. We handed them over a country where the economy and where the stock market was higher than it was before the pandemic came in. Nobody's ever seen anything like it.
00:49:37.740we made ventilators for the entire world we got gowns we got masks we did things that nobody
00:49:43.300thought possible and people give me credit for rebuilding the military they give me credit for
00:49:47.800a lot of things but not enough credit for the great job we did with the pandemic but the only
00:49:52.500jobs they got were bounce back jobs these were jobs bounce back and it bounced back and it went
00:49:57.640to their benefit but i was the one that created them they know it and so does everybody else
00:50:02.560vice president harris i'll let you respond i think it might be something different i'm not sure
00:50:06.900Donald Trump has no plan for you. And when you look at his economic plan, it's all about tax
00:50:12.660breaks for the richest people. I am offering what I describe as an opportunity economy.
00:50:18.180And the best economists in our country, if not the world, have reviewed our relative plans for
00:50:24.660the future of America. What Goldman Sachs has said is that Donald Trump's plan would make the
00:50:31.480economy worse. Mine would strengthen the economy. What the Wharton School has said is Donald Trump
00:50:36.900plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 Nobel laureates have described his economic
00:50:44.880plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite
00:50:50.320a recession. You just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues. And
00:50:55.920I'd invite you to know that Donald Trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested
00:53:44.820You want to talk about his deal with China,
00:53:48.120what he ended up doing is under Donald Trump's presidency,
00:53:51.100He ended up selling American chips to China to help them improve and modernize their military,
00:54:00.260basically sold us out, when a policy about China should be in making sure the United States of
00:54:06.580America wins the competition for the 21st century, which means focusing on the details of what that
00:54:12.860requires, focusing on relationships with our allies, focusing on investing in American-based
00:54:18.380technology so that we win the race on AI, on quantum computing, focusing on what we need to do
00:54:25.980to support America's workforce so that we don't end up having on the short end of the stick
00:54:31.820in terms of workers' rights. But what Donald Trump did, let's talk about this, with COVID,
00:54:38.000is he actually thanked President Xi for what he did during COVID. Look at his tweet.
00:54:43.640Thank you, President Xi, exclamation point, when we know that Xi was responsible for lacking and not giving us transparency about the origins of COVID.
00:54:55.460President Trump, I'll let you respond.
00:54:56.620First of all, they bought their chips from Taiwan.
00:54:59.640We hardly make chips anymore because of philosophies like they have and policies like they have.
00:55:06.100I don't say her because she has no policy.
00:55:08.440Everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window.
00:59:20.160I don't recall him saying it was legal. He just said the guy agreed with it.
00:59:24.700Supreme Court with the intention of the protections of Roe v. Wade.
00:59:29.620And they did exactly as intended. And now in over 20 states, there are Trump abortion bans,
00:59:37.340which make it criminal for a doctor or nurse to provide health care in one state.
00:59:43.880it provides prison for life, Trump abortion bans that make no exception even for rape and incest,
00:59:50.540which understand what that means. A survivor of a crime, a violation to their body, does not have
00:59:57.420the right to make a decision about what happens to their body next. That is immoral. And one does
01:00:04.120not have to abandon their faith or deeply held beliefs to agree. The government, and Donald
01:00:11.220Trump certainly should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. I have talked with women
01:00:17.320around our country. You want to talk about this is what people wanted? Pregnant women who want1.00
01:00:24.320to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency
01:00:30.120room because the health care providers are afraid they might go to jail and she's bleeding out in a
01:00:35.220car in the parking lot? She didn't want that. Her husband didn't want that. A 12 or 13-year-old0.93
01:00:41.720survivor of incest being forced to carry a pregnancy to term? They don't want that.
01:00:49.120And I pledge to you, when Congress passes a bill to put back in place the protections of Roe v. Wade
01:00:56.320as president of the United States, I will proudly sign it into law. But understand,
01:01:03.020If Donald Trump were to be reelected, he will sign a national abortion ban.
01:01:08.160Understand, in his project 2025, there would be a national abortion, a monitor that would be monitoring your pregnancies, your miscarriages.
01:01:16.860I think the American people believe that certain freedoms, in particular the freedom to make decisions about one's own body, should not be made by the government.
01:01:31.280I'm not signing a ban and there's no reason to sign a ban because we've gotten what everybody
01:01:36.900wanted Democrats Republicans and everybody else and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought
01:01:43.800back into the states and the states are voting and it may take a little time but for 52 years
01:01:49.960this issue has torn our country apart and they've wanted it back in the states and I did something
01:01:56.960that nobody thought was possible. The states are now voting. What she says is an absolute lie.
01:02:04.160And as far as the abortion ban, no, I'm not in favor of abortion ban, but it doesn't matter
01:02:08.940because this issue has now been taken over by the states. Would you veto a national abortion ban?
01:02:14.740Well, I won't have to because, again, two things. Number one, she said she'll go back to Congress.0.98
01:02:19.620She'll never get the vote. It's impossible for her to get the vote, especially now with the 50-50
01:02:24.540and essentially 50 50 in both senate and the house she's not going to get the vote she can't
01:02:30.800get the vote she won't even come close to it so it's just talk you know what it reminds me of
01:02:34.460when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total
01:02:38.560catastrophe the student loans and then her i think probably her boss if you call him a boss
01:02:45.200he spends all his time on the beach but look her boss went out and said we'll do it again we'll do
01:02:50.500it a different way. He went out, got rejected again by the Supreme Court. So all these students
01:02:55.800got taunted with this whole thing about this whole idea and how unfair that would have been.
01:03:01.480Part of the reason they lost to the millions and millions of people that had to pay off their
01:03:06.420student loans. They didn't get it for free, but they were saying it's the same way that they
01:03:10.980talked about that, that they talk about abortion. But if I could just get a yes or no, because
01:03:15.300you're running me, J.D. Vance has said that you would veto if you did come to your desk.
01:03:20.080Well, I didn't discuss it with J.D., in all fairness, J.D., and I don't mind if he has a certain view, but I think he was speaking for me, but I really didn't.
01:03:29.400Look, we don't have to discuss it because she'd never be able to get it.
01:03:34.020Just like she couldn't get student loans, they couldn't get student loans.
01:03:36.580They didn't even come close to getting student loans.
01:03:38.660They taunted young people and a lot of other people that had loans.
01:03:44.520So it doesn't matter what she says about going to Congress.
01:03:47.180Wonderful. Let's go to Congress. Do it.
01:03:48.800But the fact is that for years, they wanted to get it out of Congress and out of the federal
01:03:53.160government. And we did something that everybody said couldn't be done. And now you have a vote
01:03:57.660of the people on abortion. Vice President Harris, I want to give you your time to respond. But I do
01:04:02.220want to ask, would you support any restrictions on a woman's right to an abortion? I absolutely
01:04:07.300support reinstating the protections of Roe v. Wade. And as you rightly mentioned, nowhere in
01:04:14.440America is a woman carrying a pregnancy to term and asking for an abortion. That is not happening.
01:04:23.180It's insulting to the women of America. And understand what has been happening under Donald1.00
01:04:28.280Trump's abortion bans. Couples who pray and dream of having a family are being denied IVF
01:04:37.600treatments what is happening in our country working people working women who are working0.99
01:04:44.480one or two jobs who can barely afford child care as it is have to travel to another state
01:04:51.920to get on a plane sitting next to strangers to go and get the health care she needs
01:04:58.200barely can afford to do it and what you are putting her through is unconscionable and the
01:05:06.200people of america have not the majority of americans believe in a woman's right to make
01:05:11.600decisions about her own body and that is why he's playing the hysterical woman this issue has been
01:05:17.220on the ballot in red and blue states both the people yeah i think she is gonna cry vice president
01:05:23.060excuse me i have to respond another lie it's another lie i have been a leader on ivf which
01:05:29.340which is fertilization the ivf i have been a leader in fact when they got a very negative
01:05:35.680decision on ivf from the alabama courts i saw the people of alabama and the legislature two days
01:05:42.220later voted it in i've been a leader on it they know that and everybody else knows it i have been
01:05:48.280a leader on fertilization ivf and the other thing they you should ask will she allow abortion in the
01:05:57.060eighth month ninth month seventh month come on okay would you do that why don't you ask that0.52
01:06:03.260question. That's the problem. Because under Roe v. Wade, you could do abortions in the seventh
01:06:09.600month, the eighth month, the ninth month, and probably after birth. Just look at the governor,
01:06:15.060former governor of Virginia. The governor of Virginia said, we put the baby aside and then
01:06:20.340we determine what we want to do with the baby. He did actually say that. We're going to turn now to
01:06:24.240immigration and border security. We know it's an issue that's important to Republicans, Democrats,
01:06:28.540voters across the board in this country. Vice President Harris, you were tasked by President
01:06:33.360Biden with getting to the root causes of migration. Remember that illegal border crossings
01:06:38.960reached a record high in the Biden administration. This past June, President Biden imposed tough new
01:06:44.220asylum restrictions. We know the numbers since then have dropped significantly. But my question
01:06:49.080to you tonight is why did the administration wait until six months before the election to act?
01:06:54.100And would you have done anything differently from President Biden on this?
01:06:57.100So I'm the only person on this stage who has prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the trafficking of guns, drugs and human beings.
01:07:07.100And let me say that the United States Congress, including some of the most conservative members of the United States Senate, came up with a border security bill, which I supported.
01:07:17.200And that bill would have put 1,500 more border agents on the border to help those folks who are working there right now over time trying to do their job.
01:07:27.820It would have allowed us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States.
01:07:33.620I know there are so many families watching tonight who have been personally affected by the surge of fentanyl in our country.
01:07:39.860That bill would have put more resources to allow us to prosecute transnational criminal organizations for trafficking in guns, drugs, and human beings.
01:07:48.720But you know what happened to that bill?
01:07:50.980Donald Trump got on the phone, called up some folks in Congress, and said, kill the bill.
01:07:56.960Because he'd prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.1.00
01:08:01.920That's a total bullshit line. This comes at a time where the people of our country actually need a leader who engages in solutions, who actually addresses the problems at hand. But what we have in the former president is someone who would prefer to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem.0.98
01:08:21.820And I'll tell you something. He's going to talk about immigration a lot tonight, even when it's not the subject that is being raised.
01:08:27.500And I'm going to actually do something really unusual.
01:08:29.720And I'm going to invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch.
01:08:35.800You will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like Hannibal Lecter.
01:08:41.420He will talk about windmills cause cancer.
01:08:43.560We got a Romo ran here from Chuckie's the Cream Circus again.
01:08:44.760And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom.
01:08:50.140And I will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you.
01:08:54.540You will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams, and your desires.
01:08:59.320And I'll tell you, I believe you deserve a president who actually puts you first.
01:09:19.940people don't go to her rallies there's no reason to go and the people that do go she's bussing them
01:09:25.020in and paying them to be there and then showing them in a different light so she can't talk about
01:09:31.340that people don't leave my rallies we have the biggest rallies the most incredible rallies in
01:09:35.380the history of politics because people want to take their country back our country is being lost
01:09:41.320we're a failing nation and it happened three and a half years ago and what what's going on here0.73
01:09:47.780You're going to end up in World War III, just to go into another subject, what they have done to our country by allowing these millions and millions of people to come into our country and look at what's happening to the towns all over the United States.
01:10:01.220And a lot of towns don't want to talk.
01:10:02.520It's not going to be Aurora or Springfield.
01:10:04.460A lot of towns don't want to talk about it because they're so embarrassed by it.
01:10:08.160In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in.
01:17:32.340They weaponized the Justice Department. Every one of those cases was involved with the DOJ from Atlanta and Fonnie Willis to the attorney general of New York and the D.A. in New York.
01:17:45.140Every one of those cases. And then they say, oh, he was he's a criminal.
01:17:50.780They're the ones that made them go after me.
01:17:53.920By the way, Joe Biden was found essentially guilty on the documents case.
01:17:58.100And what happened in my documents case? They said, oh, that's the toughest of them all.
01:18:02.340a complete and total victory. Two months ago, it was thrown out. It's weaponization and they used
01:18:09.320it and it's never happened in this country. They used it to try and win an election. They're fake
01:18:14.640cases. President Trump, thank you. A really quick response here, Vice President Harris,
01:18:18.440on this notion of weaponization of the Justice Department. Well, let's talk about extreme and
01:18:22.880understand the context in which this election in 2024 is taking place. The United States Supreme
01:18:28.160court recently ruled that the former president would essentially be immune from any misconduct
01:18:34.880if he were to enter the white house again understand this is someone who has openly said
01:18:40.480he would terminate i'm quoting terminate the constitution of the united states that he would
01:18:46.140weaponize the department of justice against his political enemies someone who has openly
01:18:53.040expressed disdain for members of our military. Understand what it would mean if Donald Trump
01:19:00.380were back in the White House with no guardrails, because certainly we know now the court won't
01:19:05.920stop him. We know J.D. Vance is not going to stop him. It's up to the American people
01:19:10.360to stop him. Vice President Harris, in your last run for president.
01:19:16.720This is the one that weaponized, not me. She weaponized. I probably took a bullet to the head0.97
01:19:22.600because of the things that they say about me they talk about democracy i'm a threat to democracy0.89
01:19:28.940they're the threat to democracy with a fake russia russia russia investigation
01:19:33.900vice president harris in your last run for president you said you wanted to ban fracking
01:19:40.720now you don't you wanted mandatory government buyback programs for assault weapons now your
01:19:45.580campaign says you don't you supported decriminalizing border crossings now you're
01:19:50.380taking a harder line. I know you say that your values have not changed. So then why have so many
01:19:55.980of your policy positions changed? So my values have not changed. And I'm going to discuss every
01:20:01.460one of the, at least every point that you've made. But in particular, let's talk about fracking
01:20:05.180because we're here in Pennsylvania. I made that very clear in 2020. I will not ban fracking.
01:20:10.280I have not banned fracking as vice president of the United States. And in fact, I was the tie
01:20:14.900breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which opened new leases for fracking. My position
01:20:21.880is that we have got to invest in diverse sources of energy so we reduce our reliance on foreign
01:20:29.540oil. We have had the largest increase in domestic oil production in history because of an approach
01:20:38.500that recognizes that we cannot over rely on foreign oil. As it relates to my values, let me
01:20:44.600tell you, I grew up a middle-class kid raised by a hardworking mother who worked and saved and was
01:20:51.680able to buy our first home when I was a teenager. The values I bring to the importance of home
01:20:57.580ownership, knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed
01:21:02.880bankruptcy six times, is a value that I bring to my work to say we are going to work with the
01:21:09.180private sector and home builders to increase three million homes, increased by three million
01:21:14.420homes by the end of my first term. My work that is related to having a friend when I was in high
01:21:20.620school who was sexually assaulted by her stepfather. And my focus then on protecting women
01:21:25.760and children from violent crime is based on a value that is deeply grounded in the importance
01:21:30.820of standing up for those who are most vulnerable. My work that is about protecting Social Security
01:21:37.160in medicare is based on long-standing work that i have done protecting seniors from scams my
01:21:43.660values have not changed and what is important is that there is a president who actually brings
01:21:50.340values and a perspective that is about lifting people up and not beating people down and name
01:21:58.980calling the true measure of the leader is the leader who actually understands the strength is
01:22:06.060not in beating people down. It's in lifting people up. I intend to be that president.
01:22:11.520President Trump, your first of all, I wasn't given four hundred million dollars. I wish I was. My
01:22:15.860father was a Brooklyn builder, Brooklyn, Queens and a great father. And I learned a lot from him.
01:22:20.280But I was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction. And I built it into many, many billions
01:22:24.920of dollars, many, many billions. And when people see it, they are even surprised. So we don't have
01:22:30.620to talk about that fracking she's been against it for 12 years uh defund the police she's been
01:22:36.960against that forever she gave all that stuff up very wrongly very horribly and everybody's laughing
01:22:44.400at it okay they're all laughing at it she gave up at least 12 and probably 14 or 15 different
01:22:50.460policies like she was big on defund the police in minnesota she went out wait a minute i'm talking0.98
01:22:56.480now you know my please yeah she went out she went out in minnesota and wanted to let criminals that0.55
01:23:09.460killed people that burned down minneapolis she went out and raised money to get them out of jail1.00
01:23:14.800she did things that nobody would ever think of now she wants to do transgender operations on0.86
01:23:21.140illegal aliens that are in prison. This is a radical left liberal that would do this. She1.00
01:23:27.320wants to confiscate your guns and she will never allow fracking in Pennsylvania. If she won the1.00
01:23:32.780election, fracking in Pennsylvania will end on day one. Just to finish one thing, so important in my
01:23:39.040opinion. So I got the oil business going like nobody has ever done before. They took, when they
01:23:45.360took over, they got rid of it, started getting rid of it. And the prices were going up.
01:23:51.140the roof they immediately let these guys go to where they were i would have been five times four
01:23:58.580times five times higher because you're talking about three and a half years ago they got it up
01:24:03.460to where i was because they had no choice because the prices of energy would were quadrupling and
01:24:09.600doubling you saw what happened to gasoline so they said let's go back to trying wondering if
01:24:13.620that election they'll go back to destroying our country and oil will be dead fossil fuel will be0.62
01:24:20.880dead. We'll go back to windmills and we'll go back to solar where they need a whole desert to get
01:24:25.880some energy to come out. You ever see a solar plant? By the way, I'm a big fan of solar. But
01:24:30.580they take 400, 500 acres of desert soil. These are not good things for the environment, as she
01:24:38.760understands. Thank you. Lindsay, thank you. We have an election in just 56 days. And I want to
01:24:44.040talk about the peaceful transfer of power, which, of course, we all know is a cornerstone of our
01:24:48.060democracy and the role of a president in a moment of crisis. Mr. President, on January 6th, you told
01:24:53.860your supporters to march to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. The country
01:24:57.900and the world saw what played out of the Capitol that day, the officers coming under attack. Aides
01:25:02.660in the West Wings, you watched it unfold on television off the Oval Office. You did send out
01:25:07.280two hours before you sent out that video message telling your supporters to go home. Is there
01:25:13.580anything you regret about what you did on that day you just said a thing that isn't covered
01:25:20.000peacefully and patriotically i said during my speech not later on peacefully and patriotically
01:25:27.540and nobody on the other side was killed ashley babbitt was shot by an out-of-control police
01:25:33.740officer that should have never ever shot her it's a disgrace but we didn't do this group of people0.99
01:25:41.480that have been treated so badly, I ask, what about all the people that are pouring into our country
01:25:46.840and killing people that she allowed to pour in? She was the border czar. Remember that. She was0.83
01:25:51.860the border czar. She doesn't want to be called the border czar because she's embarrassed by the
01:25:55.480border. In fact, she said at the beginning, oh, I'm surprised you're not talking about the border
01:25:58.960yet. That's because she knows what a bad job they've done. What about those people? When are
01:26:04.540they going to be prosecuted? When are these people from countries all over the world, not just South0.98
01:26:09.460america they're coming in from all over the world david all over the world and crime rates are down
01:26:16.760all over the world because of it but let me just one of those david one of those people going to
01:26:20.840be prosecuted one of the people that burned down minneapolis going to be prosecuted or in seattle
01:26:26.140they went into seattle they took over a big percentage of the city of seattle when are those
01:26:30.820people going to be prosecuted but let me just ask you might ask for that question you were the
01:26:35.000president you were watching it unfold on television it's a very simple question as we move forward
01:26:39.180toward another election. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?
01:26:44.480I had nothing to do with that other than they asked me to make a speech. I showed up for a
01:26:49.260speech. I said, I think it's going to be big. I went to Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington,
01:26:54.520D.C., and the mayor put it back in writing, as you know. I said, you know, this is going to be
01:27:00.040a very big rally or whatever you want to call it. And again, it wasn't done by me. It was done by
01:27:05.200others. I said, I'd like to give you 10,000 National Guard or soldiers. They rejected me.
01:27:11.480Nancy Pelosi rejected me. It was just two weeks ago. Her daughter has a tape of her saying she
01:27:17.100is fully responsible for what happened. They want to get rid of that tape. It would have never
01:27:22.040happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did their jobs. I wasn't responsible
01:27:27.340for security. Nancy Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job. The question was about you as
01:27:32.980president, not about former Speaker Pelosi, but I do want Vice President Harris to respond here.
01:27:38.360I was at the Capitol on January 6th. Oh, were you? I was the vice president elect. I was also
01:27:44.300an acting senator. I was there. And on that day, the president of the United States incited a
01:27:51.240violent mob to attack our nation's Capitol, to desecrate our nation's Capitol. On that day,
01:28:57.680And if that was a bridge too far for you, well, there is a place in our campaign for you to stand for country, to stand for our democracy, to stand for rule of law and to end the chaos and to end the approach that is about attacking the foundations of our democracy because you don't like the outcome.
01:29:23.160And be clear, on that point, Donald Trump, the candidate, has said in this election there will be a bloodbath if this and the outcome of this election is not to his liking.
01:29:34.780Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah. Let's turn the page on this. Let's not go back. Let's chart a course for the future and not go backwards to the past.
01:29:43.480Joke's on you, lady. I don't read. Let me just follow up here.
01:29:45.980it was a different term and it was a term that related to energy because they have destroyed
01:29:52.340our energy business that was where bloodbath was also on charlottesville that story has been as you
01:29:57.880would say debunked laura ingram sean hannity jesse all of these people they covered it if they go an
01:30:05.780extra sentence they will see it was perfect it was debunked in almost every newspaper but they
01:30:11.460still bring it up, just like they bring 2025 up. They bring all of this stuff up. I ask you this,
01:30:16.740you're talking about the Capitol. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through
01:30:22.580on the southern border? How come she's not doing anything? And I'll tell you what I would do,
01:30:26.400and I would be very proud to do it. I would say we would both leave this debate right now.
01:30:32.080I'd like to see her go down to Washington, D.C. during this debate, because we're wasting a lot1.00
01:30:37.460of time go down to because she's been so bad it's so ridiculous go down to washington dc and let her0.99
01:30:44.000sign a bill to close up the border because they have the right to do it they don't need bills0.87
01:30:48.660they have the right to do the president of the united states you'll get them out of bed
01:30:52.520you'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon you'll say come on come on down to
01:30:56.360the office let's sign a bill if he if he signs a bill that the border is closed all he has to do
01:31:01.940is say it to the border patrol who are phenomenal if they do that the border is closed those
01:31:07.320people are killing many people, unlike J6. We talked immigration here tonight. I do want to1.00
01:31:12.160focus on this next issue to both of you, because it really brings us this into focus, truth in
01:31:17.300these times that we're living in. Mr. President, for three and a half years after you lost the
01:31:21.9602020 election, you repeatedly falsely claimed that you won, many times saying you won in a
01:31:26.880landslide. In the past couple of weeks leading up to this debate, you have said, quote, you lost by
01:31:32.080a whisker, that you, quote, didn't quite make it, that you came up a little bit short. I said that?
01:31:37.080are you now acknowledging that you lost in 2020? No, I don't acknowledge it at all. I said that
01:31:41.480sarcastically. You know that. And we said, oh, we lost by a whisker. That was said sarcastically.
01:31:46.740Look, there's so much proof. All you have to do is look at it. And they should have sent it back
01:31:51.620to the legislatures for approval. I got almost 75 million votes, the most votes any sitting
01:31:56.940president has ever gotten. I was told if I got 63, which was what I got in 2016, you can't be
01:32:02.720beaten. The election, people should never be thinking about an election as fraudulent. We
01:32:07.920need two things. We need walls. We need and we have to have it. We have to have borders and we
01:32:13.500have to have good elections. Our elections are bad. And a lot of these illegal immigrants coming
01:32:18.800in, they're trying to get them to vote. They can't even speak English. They don't even know1.00
01:32:22.860what country they're in practically. These people are trying to get them to vote. And that's why
01:32:27.660they're allowing them to come into our country. I did watch all of these pieces of video. I didn't0.99
01:32:32.700detect the sarcasm, lost by a whisker. We didn't quite make it. And we should just point out here
01:32:36.960as clarification, and you know this, you and your allies, 60 cases in front of many judges,
01:32:41.360many of them Republican. No judge looked at it. They said we didn't have standing.
01:32:44.860That's the other thing. They said we didn't have standing, a technicality. Can you imagine a system
01:32:50.360where a person in an election doesn't have standing, the president of the United States
01:32:55.200doesn't have standing? That's how we lost. If you look at the facts, and I'd love to have you do a
01:33:01.020special on it i'll show you georgia and i'll show you wisconsin and i'll show you pennsylvania and
01:33:07.240i'll show we have so many facts and statistics but you know what that doesn't matter because
01:33:12.520we have to solve the problem that we have right now that's old news and the problem that we have
01:33:17.240right now is we have a nation in decline and they have put it into decline we have a nation that is
01:33:24.920dying david mr president thank you uh vice president harris you heard the president there
01:33:29.480tonight. He said he didn't say that, that he lost by a whisker. So he still believes he did not lose
01:33:34.080the election that was won by President Biden and yourself. But I do want to ask you about something
01:33:40.480that's come up in the last couple of days. This was a post from President Trump about this upcoming
01:33:45.100election just weeks away. He said, when I win, those people who cheated, and then he lists donors,
01:33:50.280voters, election officials, he says will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,
01:33:54.400which will include long-term prison sentences.
01:33:57.520One of your campaign's top lawyers responded saying,
01:33:59.940we won't let Donald Trump intimidate us.
01:35:46.500Look at what's going on with North Korea, by the way. He said Russia was afraid of him. I ended the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and Biden put it back on day one. But he ended the XL pipeline, the XL pipeline in our country. He ended that. But he let the Russians build a pipeline going all over Europe and heading into Germany, the biggest pipeline in the world.
01:36:07.920look and then said it he said the most respected most feared person is donald trump we had no0.95
01:36:17.320problems when trump was president but when this weak pathetic man that you saw at a debate just0.94
01:36:24.120a few months ago that if he weren't in that debate he'd be running instead of hers you got no votes0.97
01:36:28.720he got 14 million votes what you did you talk about a threat to democracy he got 14 million
01:36:34.620votes and they threw him out of office. And you know what? I'll give you a little secret. He hates
01:36:38.860her. He can't stand her. But he got 14 million votes. They threw him out. She got zero votes.0.99
01:36:46.000And when she ran, she was the first one to leave because she failed. And now she's running. I don't
01:36:52.140understand it, but I'm okay with it because I think we're going to do very well. We've got a
01:36:56.080lot more to get to. Turning now to the Israel-Hamas war and the hostages who are still being held,
01:37:00.960Americans among them. Vice President Harris, in December, you said, quote, Israel has a right to
01:37:06.200defend itself, but you added, quote, it matters how, saying international humanitarian law must
01:37:11.600be respected. Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians. You said that nine months
01:37:16.900ago, now an estimated 40,000 Palestinians are dead. Nearly 100 hostages remain. Just last week,
01:37:24.020Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there's not a deal in the making. President Biden has
01:37:28.660not been able to break through the stalemate how would you do it well let's understand how we got
01:37:34.720here on october 7 hamas a terrorist organization don't think everybody make sure you feel 1200
01:37:43.740israelis many of them young people who are simply attending a concert so the exchange rate
01:37:49.900horribly raped and so absolutely i said then i say now israel has a right to defend itself we would
01:37:57.060and how it does so matters because it is also true far too many innocent palestinians have been0.69
01:38:05.740killed children mothers what we know is that this war must end it must win end immediately and the
01:38:16.180way it will end is we need a ceasefire deal and we need the hostages out. And so we will continue
01:38:22.280to work around the clock on that. Work around the clock also understanding that we must chart a
01:38:29.000course for a two-state solution. And in that solution, there must be security for the Israeli
01:38:36.140people and Israel and an equal measure for the Palestinians. But the one thing I will assure you
01:38:41.660always. I will always give Israel the ability to defend itself, in particular as it relates to
01:38:49.360Iran and any threat that Iran and its proxies pose to Israel. But we must have a two-state solution0.96
01:38:56.120where we can rebuild Gaza, where the Palestinians have security, self-determination, and the dignity
01:39:03.080they so rightly deserve. President Trump, how would you negotiate with Netanyahu and also Hamas
01:40:46.700And now what they're doing is they're spreading that money around.
01:40:50.700Look at what's happening with the Houthis and Yemen.
01:40:53.960Look at what's going on in the Middle East. This would have never happened. I will get that settled and fast and I'll get the war with Ukraine and Russia ended. If I'm president elect, I'll get it done before even becoming president.
01:41:11.800That's absolutely not true. I have my entire career and life supported Israel and the Israeli people.
01:41:19.480He knows that he's trying to, again, divide and distract from the reality, which is it is very well known that Donald Trump is weak and wrong on national security and foreign policy.
01:41:32.800It is well known that he admires dictators, wants to be a dictator on day one, according to himself.
01:41:40.400It is well known that he said of Putin that he can do whatever the hell he wants and go into Ukraine.
01:41:49.420It is well known that he said when Russia went into Ukraine, it was brilliant.
01:41:55.320It is well known he exchanged love letters with Kim Jong-un.
01:42:00.200And it is absolutely well known that these dictators and autocrats are rooting for you to be president again because they're so clear they can manipulate you with flattery and favors.
01:42:14.600And that is why that's exactly right. So many military leaders who you have worked with have told me you are a disgrace.0.97
01:42:24.240That is why we understand that we have to have a president who is not consistently weak and wrong on national security, including the importance of upholding and respecting in highest regard our military.
01:42:37.900Vice President Harris. Thank you. And she's the one that caused it. That's weak or national
01:42:44.180security by allowing every nation last month for the year. One hundred and sixty eight different
01:42:49.920countries sending people into our country. Their crime rates are way down. Putin endorsed her last0.93
01:42:56.340week, said, I hope she wins. And I think he meant it because what he's gotten away with is absolutely
01:43:02.100incredible. It wouldn't have happened with me. The leaders of other countries think that they're
01:43:07.500weak and incompetent, and they are. They're grossly incompetent. And I just ask one question.1.00
01:43:13.920Why does Biden go in and kill the Keystone Pipeline and approve the single biggest deal
01:43:19.400that Russia's ever made, Nord Stream 2, the biggest pipeline anywhere in the world going
01:43:23.540to Germany and all over Europe? Because they're weak and they're ineffective. And Biden, by the
01:43:29.080way, gets paid a lot of money. Thank you. We have a lot of issues to get to. We'll be right back
01:43:32.960with much more of this historic ABC News presidential debate from the National Constitution
01:43:36.800center right here in philadelphia back in a moment i mean it's really hard to say who's winning0.99
01:43:43.120because kamala's really working that fucking feel for shit oh yeah oh big time like every1.00
01:43:52.500everything that she does is an appeal to emotion in one way or another because she's fucking1.00
01:43:57.620retarded and can't actually defend her positions and she's not even answering any questions she's0.99
01:44:03.640just giving us field speeches no like that whole time they like let's talk about immigration they0.99
01:44:09.900did like what a minute and a half and then fucking suddenly it was derailed off into some0.91
01:44:14.800other bullshit and i never went back to it feelings feelings which i understand because0.97
01:44:21.400kamala doesn't want to get into the discussion because obviously she supports it and she0.77
01:44:25.620obviously sees the climate in america uh on that issue because it's the same up here right like0.99
01:44:31.680we're getting fucking tired of it well she's like responsible for the fucking nation's evil0.96
01:44:37.140and between the between what's going on in texas and ohio right like they're either going to take1.00
01:44:42.660over your fucking apartment buildings or eat your cats like fuck off okay yeah we're out oh man the1.00
01:44:48.680lie detectors the lie detector has been going off the fucking hay like just go nuts through this1.00
01:44:53.600whole thing like fucking bullshit man like there's been a couple things that trump said has been quite1.00
01:44:58.480fucking bullshit but for the most part he's1.00
01:45:00.360basically like he hasn't been wrong1.00
01:48:01.980well because netanyahu is basically holding on with my dear threads and in their fucking whole0.81
01:48:07.700political system that they got going over there so he needed that little uh operation to happen0.77
01:48:13.640so he can stay in power pretty much because like they've been the protests over there like0.98
01:48:19.180jews don't like their own government so they're going ah fuck this government right so i'm curious0.98
01:48:24.660i'm curious what uh what other issues we got coming up here but i think we're returning0.99
01:48:30.720man. All righty. Fuck your commercial break. Let's go.
01:48:35.340Lindsay Davis. Welcome back to this historic ABC News presidential debate tonight. We're
01:48:40.040going to continue here, and I want to turn the board. Ukraine, we're now two and a half years
01:48:43.480into this conflict. Mr. President, it has been the position of the Biden administration
01:48:47.380that we must defend Ukraine from Russia, from Vladimir Putin, to defend their sovereignty,
01:48:52.180their democracy, that it's in America's best interest to do so, arguing that if Putin wins,
01:48:56.700he may be emboldened to move even further into other countries you have said you would solve
01:49:01.400this war in 24 hours you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you want to do
01:49:06.580that and i want to ask a very simple question tonight do you want ukraine to win this war
01:49:11.240i want the war to stop i want to save lives that are being uselessly people being killed by the
01:49:18.520millions it's the millions it's so much worse than the numbers that you're getting which are
01:49:23.300fake numbers look we're in for 250 billion or more because they don't ask europe which is a much
01:49:32.120bigger beneficiary to getting this thing done than we are they're in for 150 billion dollars less
01:49:38.760because biden and you don't have the courage to ask europe like i did with nato they paid billions
01:49:46.220and billions hundreds of billions of dollars when i said either you pay up or we're not going to
01:49:51.520protect you anymore. So that's maybe one of the reasons that are like me, especially like weak
01:49:55.900people. But you take a look at what's happening. We're in for 250 to 275 billion. They're into
01:50:03.860100 to 150. They should be forced to equalize. With that being said, I want to get the war
01:50:11.260settled. I know Zelensky very well and I know Putin very well. I have a good relationship and
01:50:16.140they respect your president. OK, they respect me. They don't respect Biden. How would you respect
01:50:21.980him? Why? For what reason? He hasn't even made a phone call in two years to Putin, hasn't spoken
01:50:27.320to anybody. They don't even try and get it. That is a war that's dying to be settled. I will get
01:50:32.780it settled before I even become president. If I win when I'm president elect and what I'll do
01:50:38.580is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other. I'll get them together. That war would have never
01:50:43.960happened and in fact when i saw putin after i left unfortunately left because our our country0.64
01:50:50.460has gone to hell but after i left when i saw him building up soldiers he did it after i left i said
01:50:56.360oh he must be negotiating it must be a good strong point of negotiation well it wasn't because biden
01:51:03.080had no idea how to talk to him he had no idea how to stop it and now you have millions of people
01:51:08.880dead and it's only getting worse and it could lead to world war three don't kid yourself david
01:51:13.760we're playing with world war three and we have a president that we don't even know if he's where
01:51:18.820is our president we don't even know if he's a president and just to clarify they threw him out
01:51:22.940of a campaign like a dog we don't even know is he a president but we have a president mr president
01:51:28.760that doesn't know he's alive your time is up just to clarify the question do you believe it's in the
01:51:34.680u.s best interest for ukraine to win this war yes or no i think it's the u.s best interest to get
01:51:39.380this war finished and just get it done all right negotiate a deal because we have to stop all of
01:51:45.060these human lives from being destroyed i want to take this device president harris i want to get
01:51:49.940your thoughts on support for ukraine in this moment but also as commander-in-chief if elected
01:51:56.100how would you deal with vladimir putin and would it be any different from what we're seeing from
01:51:59.900president biden well first of all it's important to remind the former president you're not running
01:52:05.680against Joe Biden, you're running against me. I believe the reason that Donald Trump says that
01:52:11.820this war would be over within 24 hours is because he would just give it up. And that's not who we
01:52:17.060are as Americans. Let's understand what happened here. I actually met with Zelensky a few days
01:52:23.680before Russia invaded, tried through force to change territorial boundaries, to defy one of
01:52:31.400the most important international rules and norms, which is the importance of sovereignty and
01:52:36.420territorial integrity. And I met with President Zelensky. I shared with him American intelligence
01:52:41.840about how he could defend himself. Days later, I went to NATO's eastern flank to Poland and
01:52:47.800Romania. And through the work that I and others did, we brought 50 countries together to support
01:52:54.340Ukraine in its righteous defense. And because of our support, because of the air defense,
01:53:01.680the ammunition, the artillery, the javelins, the Abrams tanks that we have provided,
01:53:07.820Ukraine stands as an independent and free country. If Donald Trump were president,
01:53:12.540Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now. And understand what that would mean,
01:53:16.600because Putin's agenda is not just about Ukraine. Understand why the European allies and our NATO
01:53:24.220allies are so thankful that you are no longer president and that we understand the importance
01:53:32.000of the greatest military alliance the world has ever known, which is NATO, and what we have done
01:53:37.520to preserve the ability of Zelensky and the Ukrainians to fight for their independence.
01:53:43.380Otherwise, Putin would be sitting in Kiev with his eyes on the rest of Europe, starting with0.61
01:53:49.280poland and why don't you tell the 800 000 polish americans right here in pennsylvania how quickly0.66
01:53:54.940you would give up for the sake of favor that would have happened as a friendship with what0.76
01:54:01.440is known to be a dictator who would eat you for lunch vice president harris thank you we've heard
01:54:07.720from both of you on ukraine tonight afghanistan i wanted her to respond to something you said
01:54:13.420please i'll give you a minute here putin would be sitting in moscow and he wouldn't have lost
01:54:20.580300 000 men and women but he would have been sitting in moscow quiet please he would have
01:54:27.600been sitting in moscow much happier than he is right now but eventually you know he's got a
01:54:33.480thing that other people don't have he's got nuclear weapons they don't ever talk about that
01:54:37.520got nuclear weapons nobody ever thinks about that and eventually maybe he'll use him and maybe
01:54:43.460hasn't been that threatening but he does have that something we don't even like to talk about
01:54:49.000nobody likes to talk about it but just so you understand they sent her to negotiate peace
01:54:54.540before this war started three days later he went in and he started the war because everything they0.97
01:55:00.760said was weak and stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started0.99
01:55:06.660She was the emissary. They sent her in to negotiate with Zelensky and Putin, and she did.1.00
01:55:13.960And the war started three days later. And that's the kind of talent we have with her.
01:55:18.380She's worse than Biden, in my opinion. I think he's the worst president in the history of our
01:55:22.320country. She goes down as the worst vice president in the history of our country. But let me tell1.00
01:55:27.220you something. She is a horrible negotiator. They sent her in to negotiate. As soon as they left,1.00
01:55:33.820to Putin did the invasion. President Trump, thank you. You did bring up something. You said she
01:55:37.840went to negotiate with Vladimir Putin. Vice President Harris, have you ever met Vladimir
01:55:41.180Putin? Can you clarify tonight? Yet again, I said at the beginning of this debate, you're going to
01:55:45.280hear a bunch of lies coming from this fellow. And that is another one. When I went to meet with
01:55:50.720President Zelensky, I've now met with him over five times. The reality is it has been about
01:55:56.380standing as America always should, as a leader upholding international rules and norms.
01:56:03.820As a leader who shows strength, understanding that the alliances we have around the world are dependent on our ability to look out for our friends and not favor our enemies because you adore strongmen instead of caring about democracy.
01:56:23.420And that is very much what is at stake here.
01:56:26.060The president of the United States is commander in chief and the American people have a right to rely on a president who understands the significance of America's role and responsibility in terms of ensuring that there is stability and ensuring we stand up for our principles and not sell them for the for the benefit of personal flattery.
01:56:51.220we talked about ukraine and vladimir putin i do want to talk about afghanistan it came
01:56:55.480up in in the first hour of this debate i i wanted to move on to afghanistan said trump did the most
01:57:01.460amazing thing i've ever seen he got these countries the 28 countries at the time to pay up he said i've
01:57:08.240never seen he's the head of nato he said i've never seen for years we were paying almost all
01:57:13.720of nato we were being ripped off by european nations both on trade and on nato i got them
01:57:19.940to pay up by saying one of the statements you made before if you don't pay we're not going to
01:57:25.060protect you otherwise we would have never gotten it he said it was one of the most incredible jobs
01:57:29.680that he's ever seen done thank you i want to turn to afghanistan it came up in the first hour of the
01:57:34.220debate and we witnessed a poignant moment today on capitol hill honoring the soldiers who died
01:57:38.520in the chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan i do want to ask the vice president uh do you believe
01:57:43.520you bear any responsibility in the way that withdrawal played out oh boy well i will tell
01:57:48.560I agreed with President Biden's decision to pull out of Afghanistan. Four presidents said they
01:57:55.080would, and Joe Biden did. And as a result, America's taxpayers are not paying the $300 million a day.
01:58:02.260We were paying for that endless war. And as of today, there is not one member of the United
01:58:09.020States military who is in active duty in a combat zone in any war zone around the world the first
01:58:15.720time this century. But let's understand how we got to where we are. Donald Trump, when he was
01:58:21.780president, negotiated one of the weakest deals you can imagine. He calls himself a dealmaker.
01:58:28.260Even his national security advisor said it was a weak, terrible deal. And here's how it went down.
01:58:34.940He bypassed the Afghan government. He negotiated directly with a terrorist organization called the
01:58:41.340Taliban. The negotiation involved the Taliban getting 5,000 terrorists, Taliban terrorists
01:58:47.660released. And get this, no, get this, get this. And the president at the time invited the Taliban
01:58:55.140to Camp David, a place of storied significance for us as Americans, a place where we honor
01:59:03.120the importance of American diplomacy, where we invite and receive respected world leaders
01:59:10.000And this former president, as president, invited them to Camp David because he does not again appreciate the role and responsibility of the president of the United States to be commander in chief with a level of respect.
01:59:31.520And this gets back to the point of how he has consistently disparaged and demeaned members of our military, fallen soldiers, and the work that we must do to uphold the strength and the respect of the United States of America around the world.
02:00:19.460And I told Abdul, don't do it anymore.
02:00:22.020you do it anymore you're gonna have problems and he said why do you send me a picture of my house
02:00:26.720i said you're gonna have to figure that out abdul and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have
02:00:33.000an agreement negotiated by mike pompeo it was a very good agreement the reason it was good it was
02:00:38.840like that we were getting out we would have been out faster than them but we wouldn't have lost the
02:00:42.540soldiers we wouldn't have left many americans behind and we wouldn't have left we wouldn't
02:00:47.100have left 85 billion dollars worth of brand new beautiful military equipment behind and just to
02:00:53.480finish they blew it the agreement said you have to do this this this this this and they didn't do it
02:01:01.340they didn't do it the agreement was was terminated by us because they didn't do what they were
02:01:09.040supposed to do i want to move and these people did the worst withdrawal and in my opinion the0.80
02:01:14.940most embarrassing moment in the history of our country and by the way that's why russia attacked
02:01:20.020ukraine because they saw how incompetent she and her boss are president i want to move on now to
02:01:27.580race and politics in this country mr president you recently said of vice president harris quote
02:01:31.940i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and
02:01:36.700now she wants to be known as black i want to ask a bigger picture question here tonight
02:01:40.860why do you believe it's appropriate to weigh in on the racial identity of your opponent i don't and
02:01:46.280i don't care i don't care what she is i don't care uh you make a big deal out of something
02:01:52.100i couldn't care less whatever she wants to be is okay with me but those were your words i don't
02:01:57.640know i don't know i mean all i can say is i read where she was not black that she put out and i'll
02:02:05.120say that and then i read that she was black and that's okay either one was okay with me
02:02:10.460That's up to her. That's up to her. Vice President Harris, your thoughts on this?0.99
02:02:15.580I think it's I mean, honestly, I think it's a tragedy that we have someone who wants to be president who has consistently over the course of his career attempted to use race to divide the American people.
02:02:31.140Amazing. You know, I do believe that the vast majority of us know that we have so much more in common than what separates us.
02:02:36.300And we don't want this kind of approach that is just constantly trying to divide us, and especially by race.
02:02:43.140And let's remember how Donald Trump started.
02:02:46.160He was a land, he owned land, he owned buildings, and he was investigated because he refused to rent property to black families.
02:03:00.240let's remember this is the same individual who took out a full page ad in the new york times0.76
02:03:06.920meanwhile did he not for the execution of five young black and latino yeah this woman's family
02:03:14.560got innocent the central part he actually paid for her let her stay and took out a full page0.93
02:03:19.920apartment calling for their execution this is the same individual back on her feet who spread0.96
02:03:25.160birth their lives about the first black president of the United States.0.52
02:03:30.140And I think the American people want better than that, want better than this,
02:03:36.760want someone who understands as I do, I travel our country. We see in each other a friend. We
02:03:44.680see in each other a neighbor. We don't want a leader who is constantly trying to have Americans
02:03:51.820point their fingers at each other. I meet with people all the time who tell me, can we please
02:03:59.380just have discourse about how we're going to invest in the aspirations and the ambitions and
02:04:05.320the dreams of the American people? Knowing that regardless of people's color or the language
02:04:11.200their grandmother speaks, we all have the same dreams and aspirations and want a president
02:04:16.000who invests in those, not in hate and division. Vice President Harris, thank you. Lindsay,
02:04:21.820president trump this is now your third time this is the most divisive presidency
02:04:28.860in the history of our country there's never been anything like it they're destroying our country
02:04:33.980and they come up with things like what she just said going back many many years when
02:04:40.300a lot of people including mayor bloomberg agreed with me on the central park five they admitted
02:04:45.020they said they pled guilty and i said well if they pled guilty they badly hurt a person killed
02:04:51.500the person ultimately. And if they pled guilty, then they pled. We're not guilty. But this is a
02:04:57.500person that has to stretch back years, 40, 50 years ago, because there's nothing now. I built
02:05:04.540one of the greatest economies in the history of the world, and I'm going to build it again. It's
02:05:09.460going to be bigger, better and stronger. But they're destroying our economy. They have no idea
02:05:14.500what a good economy is. Their oil policies, every single policy. And remember this. She is
02:05:21.460Biden. You know, she's trying to get away from Biden. I don't know the gentleman. She says0.99
02:05:25.360she is Biden. The worst inflation we've ever had. A horrible economy because inflation has
02:05:32.760made it so bad. And she can't get away with that. Thank you. I want to respond to that,
02:05:38.180though. I want to just respond briefly. Clearly, I am not Joe Biden. And I am certainly not Donald
02:05:45.500trump and what i do offer is a new generation of leadership for our country one who believes
02:05:51.980in what is possible one who brings a sense of optimism about what we can do instead of always
02:05:59.580disparaging the american people i believe in what we can do to strengthen our small businesses which
02:06:08.380is why i have a plan let's talk about our plans and and let's compare the plans economy's not
02:06:15.020a plan to give startup businesses $50,000 tax deduction to pursue their ambitions, their
02:06:24.220innovation, their ideas, their hard work. I have a plan, $6,000 for young families for the first
02:06:31.640year of your child's life to help you in that most critical stage of your child's development.
02:06:36.840I have a plan that is about allowing people to be able to pursue what has been fleeting in terms
02:06:44.040of the American dream by offering a help with down payment of $25,000 down payment assistance
02:06:50.720for first time homebuyers. That's the kind of conversation I believe, David, that people really
02:06:56.680want tonight, as opposed to a conversation that is constantly about belittling. Let's turn the
02:07:05.280page. Vice President Harris, thank you. Let's turn to policy. President Trump, we have to move on.
02:07:09.960President Trump. Let's turn to policy, please. She has a plan to defund the police. She has a
02:07:15.420plan to confiscate everybody's gun. President Trump, we do have to move on to other issues.
02:07:20.740She has a plan to not allow fracking in Pennsylvania or anywhere else. That's what
02:07:24.400her plan is until just recently. I just need to respond. President Trump. No, I'm sorry.
02:07:30.000I'm sorry. We're going to move on. President Trump, this is now your third time running for president. You have long vowed to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. You have failed to accomplish that. You now say you're going to keep Obamacare, quote, unless we can do something much better. Last month, you said, quote, we're working on it. So tonight, nine years after you first started running, do you have a plan and can you tell us what it is?
02:07:57.240Obamacare was lousy health care, always was. It's not very good today. And what I said that if we
02:08:03.740come up with something and we are working on things, we're going to do it and we're going
02:08:07.380to replace it. But remember this, I inherited Obamacare because Democrats wouldn't change it.
02:08:13.620They wouldn't vote for it. They were unanimous. They wouldn't vote to change it. If they would
02:08:17.960have done that, we would have had a much better plan than Obamacare. But the Democrats came up,
02:08:22.980They wouldn't vote for it. I had a choice to make when I was president. Do I save it and make it as
02:08:28.620good as it can be? Never going to be great. Or do I let it rot? And I felt I had an obligation,
02:08:35.220even though politically it would have been good to just let it rot and let it go away.
02:08:39.580I decided and I told my people, the top people, and they're very good people. I have a lot of
02:08:43.800good people in this administration. We read about the bad ones. We had some real bad ones, too. And
02:08:49.020so do they. They have really bad ones. The difference is they don't get rid of them. But
02:08:51.920let me just explain. I had a choice to make. Do I save it and make it as good as it can be?
02:08:58.940Or do I let it rot? And I saved it. I did the right thing. But it's still never going to be
02:09:04.960great. And it's too expensive for people. And what we will do is we're looking at different plans.
02:09:10.360If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population less money and
02:09:16.600be better health care than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it. But until then, I'd run it as
02:09:22.720good as it can be run. So just a yes or no, you still do not have a plan. I have concepts of a
02:09:27.860plan. I'm not president right now. But if we come up with something, I would only change it if we
02:09:35.120come up with something that's better and less expensive. And there are concepts and options we
02:09:40.480have to do that. And you'll be hearing about it in the not too distant future. Vice President
02:09:45.840Harris, in 2017, you supported Bernie Sanders' proposal to do away with private insurance and create a government-run health care system.
02:09:52.880Two years later, you proposed a plan that included a private insurance option.
02:10:09.440I just need to respond to a previous point that the former president has made.
02:10:13.260I've made very clear my position on fracking. And then this business about taking everyone's
02:10:17.760guns away. Tim Walz and I are both gun owners. We're not taking anybody's guns away. So stop
02:10:22.600with the continuous lying about this stuff. As it relates to the Affordable Care Act,
02:10:27.200understand, just look at the history to know where people stand. When Donald Trump was president,
02:10:33.00060 times he tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. 60 times. I was a senator at the time
02:10:40.020When I will never forget the early morning hours when it was up for a vote in the United States Senate and the late, great John McCain, who you have disparaged as being you don't like him, you said at the time because he got caught.
02:10:59.020He was an American hero. The late, great John McCain, I will never forget that night, walked onto the Senate floor and said, no, you don't.
02:11:07.560No, you don't. No, you don't get rid of the Affordable Care Act. You have no plan. And what the Affordable Care Act has done is eliminate the ability of insurance companies to deny people with pre-existing conditions. I don't have to tell the people watching tonight. You remember what that was like? Remember when an insurance company could deny?
02:11:27.180If a child had asthma, if someone was a breast cancer survivor, if a grandparent had diabetes.
02:11:35.140And thankfully, as I've been vice president and we over the last four years have strengthened the Affordable Care Act,
02:11:41.600we have allowed for the first time Medicare to negotiate drug prices on behalf of you, the American people.
02:11:48.440Donald Trump said he was going to allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. He never did. We did.
02:11:52.960And now we have capped the cost of insulin at $35 a month.
02:11:56.540Since I've been vice president, we have capped the cost of prescription medication for seniors at $2,000 a year.
02:12:01.920And when I am president, we will do that for all people,
02:12:05.060understanding that the value I bring to this is that access to health care should be a right
02:12:12.260and not just a privilege of those who can afford it.
02:12:15.360And the plan has to be to strengthen the Affordable Care Act, not get rid of it.
02:20:03.960so just feel make sure that you feel some sort of way1.00
02:20:09.280i just can't get over how many times like she never answered a question she just gave a little
02:20:17.000speech yeah well and that but that's just it i didn't really hear an answer in any of the
02:20:23.160questions maybe get up like alluding to something maybe here to there a couple times but for the
02:20:27.380part is just speeches what's your answer to this speech it's just her trying to elicit emotion0.91
02:20:35.700and and yes lee the moderators are are actually kind of crap right like they have not kept them
02:20:40.660on topic they have not you know what i mean like during that immigration portion is is a perfect0.89
02:20:45.860example of where they should have interrupted and said that this is not the topic we're even
02:20:50.740discussing let's get back to the topic right but they just sit there and let it go but and again0.99
02:20:58.000i think that's because the democrats know that if you let them speak about their fucking immigration0.97
02:21:04.300plan nobody's gonna like that right all right begin with you so i think you've heard tonight0.98
02:21:17.560two very different visions for our country, one that is focused on the future and the other that
02:21:25.220is focused on the past and an attempt to take us backward. But we're not going back. And I do
02:21:32.720believe that the American people know we all have so much more in common than what separates us,
02:21:37.880and we can chart a new way forward. And a vision of that includes having a plan,
02:21:44.960understanding the aspirations the dreams the hopes the ambition of the american people which
02:21:51.960is why i intend to create an opportunity economy investing in small businesses in new families
02:21:59.740in what we can do around protecting seniors what we can do that is about giving hard-working folks
02:22:06.920a break and bringing down the cost of living i believe in what we can do together that is about
02:22:14.000sustaining America's standing in the world and ensuring that we have the respect that we so
02:22:19.660rightly deserve, including respecting our military and ensuring we have the most lethal fighting force
02:22:26.740in the world. I will be a president that will protect our fundamental rights and freedoms,
02:22:31.520including the right of a woman to make decisions about her own body and not have her government0.96
02:22:36.720tell her what to do. I'll tell you, I started my career as a prosecutor. I was the DA. I was an
02:22:42.960attorney general the united states senator and now vice president i've only had one client
02:22:47.340the people and i'll tell you as a prosecutor i never asked a victim or a witness are you a
02:22:54.560republican or a democrat the only thing i ever asked them are you okay and that's the kind of
02:23:01.160president we need right now someone who cares about you and is not putting themselves first
02:23:07.140I intend to be a president for all Americans and focus on what we can do over the next 10 and 20 years to build back up our country by investing right now in you, the American people.