00:25:37.400He's an amazing master of music, mastering it to make anyone's sound or any instrument sound just top-notch.
00:25:48.160and um he knew that I had been writing music and I had been in a hardcore band 10 12 years ago and
00:25:56.440we didn't do anything too great played a lot of garages a lot of warehouses um and he was reading
00:26:03.440some of my my lyrics and he's like you know you really should put those out and I was like well
00:26:08.480let's let's do something but I wasn't expecting to do the vocals I just wanted to like maybe
00:26:14.640give my lyrics to somebody that was willing to do it and um he said come to the studio let's
00:26:20.720let's figure this out and um i did and he's made me sound amazing and i'm grateful for that but um
00:26:30.420yeah that that's basically where i come from is is the hardcore background but again i mixed it
00:26:37.500um with some of the other genres that i love and then he just fine-tuned it and added his
00:26:42.780his flair to it and i didn't think anybody'd like it i really thought people would be like this is
00:26:48.460just you know weird or it wasn't in the the following of rock against communism or oy or
00:26:56.320punk it's just kind of its own sub you know genre and i was really surprised when uh people
00:27:02.580said hey you're doing something different good keep it up well yeah because again like i said
00:27:08.860it's a fusion and it's um like myself like i'm like look i'm a i'm a balls of the wall metalhead
00:27:15.000but i love this this fast wave stuff as soon as i started hearing all this fast wave and like
00:27:19.480like and as like rave almost type i was like this is fucking awesome i actually really like this
00:27:24.580like why isn't the more dance clubs with this type of stuff playing because then i'd probably go
00:27:28.260right like and uh so uh again like myself it was just like uh this this is really interesting stuff
00:27:34.900So that one Fashwave song of yours that I actually played in the beginning of the show here, I really enjoyed that.
00:27:42.840And that's one thing, too, I'm really liking about how these fusions are coming together is, again, like I'm like the same type of product, right?
00:27:51.720From the 90s, listening to like hardcore punk.
00:27:54.840I wasn't really much into the oi punk as much.
00:28:03.440uh uh but again i was a big black metal fan like i've been listening to ns black metal for oh crap0.76
00:28:09.64030 years now a long fucking time and it's funny i'll be in like uh in a facebook because i scroll0.83
00:28:16.240through facebook i like to troll people on facebook and i'm in a couple of uh uh black0.96
00:28:20.380metal pages on there and you get all these new age like liberal commie types in there going oh
00:28:25.760we need why is there so many fascists and black metal blah blah blah i'm like you have no idea0.98
00:28:30.720the origins of black metal i guess you morons right because like the origins of it is total0.99
00:28:36.640at s but they don't seem to understand that right all these bands they love are like uh yeah look0.93
00:28:41.360into these guys a little deeper you ain't gonna like them anymore um but that's one thing i like
00:28:46.480about this new stuff coming out that like i said these fusions coming together like um
00:28:51.520like uh i'm i'm even trying it out like i'm not really one for ai type of music myself but like
00:28:57.200um i'd rather play it for real but like i live in a small apartment i can't really have my gear set
00:29:02.120up so i'm just taking what i like to do with music for now and putting it into an ai thing
00:29:06.840so i'm experimenting myself i'm taking like dark rave industrial mixing it with black metal and
00:29:11.760like deathcore it's kind of having a little bit of fun like that right and uh it it sounds pretty
00:29:18.520good it sounds actually really interesting when you tweak it and have some fun with it right
00:29:21.980and uh i i heard a couple of really interesting influences in your stuff that i actually wanted
00:29:28.200to ask if they were um do you have any uh do you know in this moment at all um you know i've been
00:29:38.400compared to that and honestly i don't think i've ever heard anything from them um no i know it's
00:29:45.940okay. I'm, I'm just, uh, I'm not really into anything that, uh, is mainstream or even current.
00:29:52.080So you have to understand that like what I'm, what I'm about and what I enjoy is what I put
00:29:59.580into my music. So like a lot of it's, you know, from 10, 15, 20, 20 years ago. And, um, when some
00:30:07.660people like compare or they ask me what this influence is, I honestly don't mean to sound
00:30:12.720ignorant but no i i don't know so i wasn't i wasn't like don't get me wrong i wasn't actually
00:30:19.480comparing you um because what i was actually like trying to put the comparison to was
00:30:24.640basically what i'm trying to say is it's not too often we we find a female fronted like metal type
00:30:31.620of base like this that's actually stands out and that's what i was trying to sit like i wasn't
00:30:36.920trying to compare you to in this moment at all i was just trying to put that comparison on that
00:30:40.980type of art on that female archetype of the band itself that's what i was trying to get at
00:30:44.900so i apologize if it came off the wrong way oh no and but what i was trying to get at is in
00:30:52.360this movement we don't have that right and so then what you're doing is kind of starting to
00:30:59.180actually push that forward because again in the most of the music in this is all male driven
00:31:04.800we don't really hear any much we don't really hear any female driven music in our basically
00:31:10.360in our scene at all so that's why i like that's why i was actually quite intrigued about your music
00:31:15.220right right um yeah there there aren't a lot of females doing um much not not in the spotlight
00:31:25.240i would say sure there's lots of women doing a lot for the movement and i think you know i i'm
00:31:31.620definitely not a feminist okay so let's you know get that out of the way but i will say0.87
00:31:37.780every subculture um every movement it doesn't really matter what it's based around um there
00:31:45.700there are issues with um i wouldn't say the equality of the sexes but i would say that
00:31:51.440women have a harder time um maybe being embraced also um or not taken serious maybe um and
00:32:03.620And I'm a strong believer in doing things for yourself.
00:32:09.840You shouldn't be doing things for other people to recognize it.
00:32:15.960You should be doing it because you love it.
00:32:17.820And it doesn't matter what it is, if it's music or art or, you know, community work, whatever it is.
00:32:25.020You should be doing it because it comes from your soul and it becomes a passion.1.00
00:32:28.940and um at the same time you have to have some support and I don't feel like women within the
00:32:36.780movement have a lot of support um and and we don't as women a lot of times we don't support each
00:32:45.000other you know so we can't really expect um men to support everything we're doing if we can't as
00:32:51.020women come together and support each other you know to carry forth so you're right there's not0.99
00:32:56.320a lot of women doing music. But I think it's not a lot to do. It's just, you know, the support and0.99
00:33:03.880the platforms. I think that there's probably a lot of women that would jump on this and could do it.0.57
00:33:10.060But I just don't think they have that support. So I think that, you know, we as a community
00:33:15.100need to be pushing people to, you know, come forward and doing their passions and the things
00:33:21.840that they love yeah i agree i agree because that's one thing about our culture is uh it's
00:33:27.280it's very artistic we have we built the western world right and when you look at how the western
00:33:33.000world was built you could see the history of the art history of our people all through it right
00:33:37.220and it bleeds out right into the music architecture like everything right so
00:33:42.440so you know you're correct and one thing too if we have more of that um uh show of support0.98
00:33:49.880of it that will hopefully actually uh prompt more women to actually want to do what you're doing0.97
00:33:56.120maybe not in metal maybe like a different genre of music or whatever if they want to just do like
00:34:00.980just solo singing whatever whatever just uh yeah if you got an art so bring it out bring it out
00:34:08.320that's what we're all about right um another question another question i wanted to ask you
00:34:13.040um what like when it comes to like you you said you come from a skinhead background0.98
00:34:21.080and uh so what opened your eyes to all of uh what i like to say uh the plight of fucking0.97
00:34:27.740global homo as we see ourselves under um what was it that peeled the blinders off for you that uh0.96
00:34:33.900made you the way you are sure we all have a story right we all have a story
00:34:39.200Absolutely. I guess I'm fortunate. I had two grandfathers that were extremely political. I had one that was a mayor in the 1950s in Indianapolis, Indiana. And then I had another grandfather who was a political cartoonist.
00:35:00.860And so he actually, you know, documented politics and he joked from the center.
00:35:08.540He made fun of, you know, Republicans and Democrats.
00:35:11.300And we're talking from the 1930s all the way up into the 1990s.
00:35:16.020My grandfather that was the mayor, he was anti-Semitic as far as my childhood and according to my father, his childhood as well.
00:35:28.260So I was kind of raised in a based environment and being a kid and having my parents were raised in the 60s.
00:35:42.560And so they rebelled against their parents.
00:35:44.740So anything that they were taught, you know, it was like they went the opposite way.
00:35:49.600And again, they were, you know, products of the 1960s, 1970s.
00:35:53.800So they became more, I would say, liberal.
00:35:58.240And so when I grew up, I kind of rebelled against their liberalism, I guess.
00:36:04.680They were conservative, but I would say, you know, left of conservative.
00:49:20.940it is sad yeah yeah i'm just glad that they're not falling for the fucking uh oh we got to go0.98
00:49:30.400fight for israel and send troops to fucking fight for uh go fight iran uh canada's kind of telling0.98
00:49:37.460telling them to go shove it with that uh but still sending millions of fucking dollars to1.00
00:49:43.080ukraine and shit i'm just like what the fuck it's it's like retarded you guys don't have to1.00
00:49:48.760send money away you guys are bringing in all the illegals and immigrants you don't need to be1.00
00:49:53.840out of your country oh man in the past oh i want to say 10 years they've imported probably close0.95
00:50:05.520to half of fucking india they expedited that around uh the time when they unleashed covet on0.97
00:50:11.480So when they had everybody locked down here in Canada, they had flight upon flight upon flight coming into the country full of Indians and Chinese.0.99
00:50:18.420Here you go. Here you go. Here you go.1.00
00:50:20.580And nobody noticed because everybody was locked down, you know, obeying the rules and shit.0.99
00:50:25.140Right. But now it's quite noticeable.0.96
00:50:27.500You have your average like granny walking down the street going, fuck you, G.1.00
00:50:30.860Like it's it's it's very noticeable now in the country, even in the town that I live in, like 30 years ago.1.00
00:50:37.760lived here in this town like it was basically natives and like all white people right like there
00:50:43.040was maybe one or two black people with that uh now it's indians everywhere with calistani decals on0.99
00:50:49.120their cars they own they own and run like all the fast food joints it's insane it's insane0.97
00:50:57.440and uh the indians are getting uh uh inundated like everywhere now because at first it was just
00:51:04.480just here in canada then and uk and stuff like that they started indian but heard that now in0.98
00:51:08.680the states the states is getting a good influx of fucking indians now too yeah and they could0.99
00:51:16.200them out a little bit easier there well we got we got a bit of land mass too they started sending1.00
00:51:21.280them all up into the rural areas like up in northern ontario and the prairie provinces
00:51:26.240and stuff like that like uh places way the fuck up north where you wouldn't think you'd find1.00
00:51:30.660anybody you're going to find an indian it's just that retarded they're putting them everywhere man0.99
00:51:36.900they are they are you know it's funny because um back in the uh national alliance days um0.99
00:51:46.220there was the big you know uh one of the things that was pushed so far but like dr pierce and
00:51:52.900rest in peace um you know he talked about the invasions of the the browns and everybody was0.94
00:51:59.780like oh you know thinking it was the mexicans like you know all the browns are going to take0.99
00:52:04.820over but it's not the mech i mean the mexicans are you know doing their own thing but it's1.00
00:52:09.520it's the arabs and the indians that i don't think we we saw coming you know i mean like i think we0.99
00:52:16.420really thought the invasion was going to be coming from the south not from well the middle east i've
00:52:21.900got a video here i can show you um this uh this video was done by uh one of our canadian guys
00:52:26.960Derek Rance I don't know if you've heard of Derek Rance and Platt Army or not
00:52:30.320you would you would probably like his stream he streams usually every Sunday
00:52:33.800night sometimes he pops up throughout the week but usually usually it's every
00:52:36.740Sunday night about 8 30 but he put together this video and a friend of mine
00:52:42.200actually helped him put together this video and it kind of it's it's a pretty
00:52:46.280good indication on the invasion into Canada what's going on with India so
01:25:53.660And he has that background in industrial, in fast wave, cyber wave.
01:25:58.720and so when we're doing music together a lot of uh it is filtered and compressed and um
01:26:06.660people say oh well you know these lyrics these songs are so compressed they're so filtered well
01:26:12.960you know i hate to break it to people but that's what software kind of does you know and um although
01:26:17.960i'm not ai um ai is a tool and i encourage people if you've got a voice if you've got something you
01:26:25.220got to say and you don't have you know the ability to have a band or like you said you know you're in
01:26:31.680a small space it's not like you can be setting up your instruments and stuff use whatever tools are
01:26:36.780there to get a message out and people can criticize ai and you know it's here it's it's here and it's
01:26:44.520not going away so if you can utilize it like the rest of the world is for for the betterment of
01:26:49.660people to improve things to get messages out to uh you know relay what you've got to say then do it
01:26:56.040i'm all for it and so when i hear people criticize uh you know people putting out ai music or people
01:27:02.200putting out uh studio based music and oh you know it's it's goyslop you know i hear things like that
01:27:08.840and i i just i i think it's kind of pathetic that people aren't more um open to the idea of
01:27:15.380the message because that's what it's about it's about the message yeah yeah exactly like especially
01:27:21.100especially for people that like that are singers like yourself and don't have access to a full band
01:27:26.360um that is a great avenue for that because bang you just type in a computer bang you got yourself
01:27:31.740a full band that you just say exactly right and it can be your vocals you know it can be your
01:27:37.540vocals and that's another thing you're like oh this is ai or whatever but no you can put your
01:27:42.760own vocals into those things you know again it's a tool but lucky luckily for me i have someone
01:27:48.340that um does all my music for me you know he he has his software and he has his machines and he
01:27:54.420has the things that he's been you know utilizing for years so but again you know not everybody's
01:27:59.840that fortunate like i've been uh i've been writing some of it myself uh i've kind of started as
01:28:04.560just nobody to try and put out there as like uh music content but just to kind of
01:28:09.600uh more like just something to call my own i guess really and uh and like i said like i like i have a
01:28:15.820music background myself i like oh fuck i've played countless live shows i've been in like a whole
01:28:20.280black like probably about four or five different bands i've got two studio albums done i got like0.75
01:28:25.980i've been doing it for quite some time i spent probably about 25 years on stage on a behind a
01:28:30.440drum kit and and so when i so when i started approaching the ai music um well first of all
01:28:37.760when i first started hearing it i was able to tell who's musicians and who are not musicians
01:28:42.800by how they're writing it and so when i started the first couple songs i wrote i just kind of
01:28:49.380threw some prompts together just to kind of test the waters and then i started realizing okay well
01:28:54.960i'm gonna start changing how i'm writing these prompts on how i want this music to sound i'm
01:28:59.400gonna put like timing signatures different uh tunings uh and so like i don't have access to
01:29:05.540proper mixing software myself so i try to pre like try to do a pre-mix in the prompt you know what i
01:29:12.060mean like uh for instance like uh double tracking the guitars uh double tracking the drums so they're
01:29:16.960thick and prominent same with the bass things like that the vocal um so i try to put a lot of that
01:29:22.460into the prompts um at the same time like i'm still learning right like i'm a crash course type
01:29:28.240a learner right so um but I enjoy it actually like I've like I've probably wrote about 10-15
01:29:35.560songs now I call it the Bigot Hoff melodies that's great though you know and and again
01:29:44.060if you're laying down your own instruments your own sounds and you're adding to it and you you
01:29:49.720know you're looping and all the things that you have to do like it's still your creation you know
01:29:54.460And so when I have people come to me and say like, I really want to do this, but I don't know how.
01:30:00.100And I, you know, I recommend them to go investigate or read, but it's still your creation.
01:30:07.280And yeah, there are a lot of like cheesy and kind of obvious AI, you know, lyrics and things that people are putting out because of the way that things rhyme or how they don't rhyme.
01:30:22.780But again, AI, I think, is a tool that people can utilize to get messages out.
01:30:27.980And if you're creative and you are an artist and like with you, you said, like, you know, you're in a small space and this is just helping you with what you're already naturally good at and doing.
01:41:27.720it's so important that people are active
01:41:29.840And you can do simple things. I mean, it's not like you have to show your face. It's not like you have to go beat the streets in March. You know, a lot of people are concerned about losing their jobs or again, you know, their family members being targeted.
01:41:42.840But there's there's little things you can do, even if it's just a shirt, you know, that says, you know, white lives matter or, you know, and you don't necessarily have to blast or blare it.0.66
01:41:52.980I'm a strong believer in like the more basic or easy for people to relate to the better.0.59
01:42:02.780Like when you go out and you're blasphemous swastika on your shirt or something, you're going to turn more people off than you are.
01:42:08.000Turn them on. You might have people like, yeah, brother, you know, that's awesome.0.98
01:42:11.060but most likely they're not going to go buy that shirt and wear it themselves so you've got to um0.74
01:42:16.600do things you know on a i guess a lesser in your face level and just the most white power thing
01:42:24.380that people can do is come together as as people have cookouts um you know go go to the park you
01:42:30.660know do the things that were meant to do and um you know obviously don't race max those are the
01:42:37.100most important things well yeah it's just rebuilding and maintaining the cult our culture
01:42:42.020because again like our culture is the number one thing that is majorly fucking under attack
01:42:47.460and by doing just even the simple just like the hikes or like cookouts or whatever that that type
01:42:54.900of even those activities keeps keeps that culture the spirit of that culture alive and endures and
01:43:01.220so it gives the future our youth something to look forward to and something to fight for
01:43:05.600because like the way it is here in canada it might be like this in the states but the way it0.91
01:43:09.620here's in canada the system is very much making it where the youth have fucking nothing and by
01:43:15.840doing by doing these the actual club situations the ira community just building this whole thing
01:43:22.600is something that the youth can actually have to look forward to and fight for so they can even so
01:43:27.520they can build so they can plan their future for their children and then so on and so on and so on
01:43:32.640and that's why i'm a very much a very uh proponent of what we call up here in canada tribe and
01:43:37.520train absolutely absolutely tribalism is extremely important within our people
01:43:43.960coming together doing events uh you know it doesn't have to even be white power based you
01:43:50.480know you don't have to come at people with your ideology to make a difference uh just do something
01:43:56.500be active and um is so important because we're straying we're we're straying from um our home
01:44:03.980units like you don't hear of you know families doing things together like they did back in the
01:44:09.98080s and 90s you know everybody's busy working mom dad both have to work now our children are being
01:44:15.500raised by the system and um it's a sad thing so when you can do things as a family unit when you0.75
01:44:21.820can get out and you know have a good time with other other white people uh that's extremely
01:44:27.120important extremely important it is yes it is yeah what time are we at about 10 o'clock yeah
01:44:35.920so i wasn't planning on having too late of a stream tonight actually um so uh yeah so we'll
01:44:41.640wrap it up it's about 10 o'clock um so uh yeah so just tell everybody where uh they can reach you
01:44:46.720because i like i said i know you got your x account gated so i don't know if you've got
01:44:50.360another one going or not. But I know you have your other socials, your Telegram and
01:44:56.040Dresden, 86 Dresden and things like that. So, yeah, just tell everybody where they can reach
01:45:01.660you. Absolutely. I did start another X account. Again, I'm not tech savvy, so it's going to take
01:45:08.260me a while to kind of figure it out and get it back going. If you want to get a hold of me or
01:45:12.840have a conversation or anything, you can hit me up on Telegram. It's just Holly Kost. I do have
01:45:18.460panzer streetwear uh channel on there as well that's where i have uh my merch and whatnot you
01:45:24.500can get a hold of my albums and uh future releases on 86 dresden i think after this
01:45:32.680album that's coming out i'm going to do a cover album of rahoa and um cutthroat some other of
01:45:41.840the old bands um so that's something to look forward to but yeah you can get a hold of me
01:45:47.040on telegram if anybody wants to reach out right on cool cool rohoa geez i haven't heard that name
01:45:54.780in so long you know one of the best i think they're one of the best bands you know my my
01:46:02.040personal favorite band when it came to like this sort of punk thrashy sound of that time period
01:46:05.700was bound for glory i really liked bound for glory absolutely bound for glory and nordic thunder was
01:46:11.080you know yes i forgot about them i forgot about them um yeah but it's so hard to find that stuff0.60
01:46:17.360i don't know where to fucking find that stuff right now because i remember you have oh right0.68
01:46:22.460on right on cool cool because i like again because i've been trying to find like old berserker from0.72
01:46:27.420back i can't find it anywhere i'm just like oh i miss this stuff from back in the day right but
01:46:32.080but yeah if you're gonna hook me up with some of that stuff that'd be great but yeah
01:46:35.960yeah right on right on right on cool cool all right well uh thank you for uh coming on tonight
01:46:44.060and uh oh sorry i've just got an itchy leg there sorry to make a sidetrack okay sorry it's not a
01:46:51.140professional production whatsoever um yeah thank you for coming on tonight it's been great talking
01:46:55.860with you and uh and uh yeah so like if you like doing more interviews by all means like uh people
01:47:02.360reach out like uh it can be a lot of fun it can be tedious it can be a little bit scary sometimes
01:47:09.500but at the same time it could be a lot of fun right like uh like when i first started doing
01:47:14.340this before i'd hit that live button i'd get that feeling in the gut that i used to get before i'd
01:47:18.740actually go on stage i'm like this is fucking weird why am i getting this doing this right
01:47:22.420but it's almost the same type of thing right like uh instead of looking through my drum kit to a0.66
01:47:26.800bunch of people i'm kind of looking into a camera to people i can't see i can see everybody talking
01:47:30.640but i just can't see them right so it's a little bit different um but it's it's a lot of fun it's
01:47:36.400a lot of fun so if uh yeah people uh people want to interview you yeah it's uh that's how we're
01:47:42.880doing it now right like a lot of the the podcast uh i don't know if there's other people i know
01:47:47.440there's me flood uh night nick from night nation review i don't know if you've uh talked with him
01:47:52.160or not um he he's really cool he's really cool he's got a great stream uh he streams like every0.81
01:47:57.120night um but yeah it's uh it's a great scene and uh some great fucking people and uh i actually
01:48:03.680really enjoy it so and uh yeah and uh so everybody have a great night and uh we will see you guys0.61
01:48:10.880next weekend i think i'm on next weekend i don't think i have anything planned um but yes thank you
01:48:17.760you for coming on and uh have a great night yes 88 88 thank you have a great night0.75
01:48:23.860uh where's my outro there's my fucking outro actually you know what i'm actually gonna play0.80
01:48:32.560uh a video i'm gonna do that instead i made a video to uh the song i entered into uh flood's uh0.98
01:48:40.660uh uh songs for uncle uh contest i played it last night on floodstream which is pretty cool
01:48:48.340i shouted to king salty and i did not expect him to pick that song to be played so that was
01:48:52.500fucking pretty cool but uh again kind of crash course in the video editing here
01:48:59.300teach myself how to do it i'm not really all that good at it but it's a work in progress0.81
01:49:05.540so uh this is the video to show your hands
01:49:10.660There once was a man with an extraordinary and ingenious plan.