Tower Gang - Ep 34 - White Women Must be Co-Opted w⧸ Spike Cohen

00:00:00.620 What's up, retards? 1.00

00:00:02.100 The funniest 9-11 jokes were written on 9-12. 1.00

00:00:04.800 Women jerk off dicks like fucking they're an unruly ferret. 1.00

00:00:07.880 Yeah. 1.00

00:00:08.740 You ever had a 9-11 cocktail?

00:00:11.860 It's in Manhattan with two kamikazes. 0.97

00:00:14.000 Come in now.

00:00:15.940 You see, the socialists don't have an accurate answer for this,

00:00:19.220 and she needs to account for it. 0.97

00:00:20.900 White women must be stopped. 1.00

00:00:22.920 That's right. 0.99

00:00:24.020 Yeah. 0.99

00:00:26.080 We can stay horny and retarded longer than she can stay sane. 1.00

00:00:30.000 What? 1.00

00:00:30.620 Your ass-to-penis ratio. 1.00

00:00:33.200 Ben, maybe you could say we had sex, but we didn't fuck. 1.00

00:00:35.640 You said n***er, oh. 1.00

00:00:36.780 Oh, Jesus. 0.98

00:00:37.880 Free! 1.00

00:00:39.460 Fat Dave, fuck you, man. 1.00

00:00:41.280 Free! 1.00

00:00:42.180 Free!

00:00:42.740 Free!

00:00:45.940 Welcome, everybody, to another episode of Tower Gang.

00:00:48.720 What's going on?

00:00:50.080 In the building, as always, we have the fattest man you know, Dave. 0.91

00:00:56.880 He's the fat guy afraid to take off his shirt. 0.94

00:00:59.100 He's not even that fat. 0.96

00:01:01.320 Like, I don't...

00:01:01.880 I know.

00:01:02.940 I know.

00:01:03.240 That's kind of the joke of it, is that he's, like, he's a little bit too handsome.

00:01:07.000 It'd be Colin Fett.

00:01:08.580 We also have Toad, as always, and the great Reed Coverdale showing off his chest hair,

00:01:14.000 which makes me jealous.

00:01:15.460 And then the legend of Spike Cohen has returned.

00:01:19.820 Thank you for coming in, Spike.

00:01:21.280 I actually have him returned.

00:01:22.200 This is my first time on and discovering what the hell this even is.

00:01:27.080 Good luck.

00:01:27.880 Fun story.

00:01:28.860 Fun story.

00:01:29.720 So, I forget which one of y'all reached out to me to ask me to be on.

00:01:32.300 It was either Reader or Clint, and I don't think it was Josh.

00:01:35.220 Hey, you'll take the blame.

00:01:36.620 Okay, yeah, because you're the only ones I know from this show, which I now know that.

00:01:42.340 So, Reed reached out and was like, hey, would you like to be on Tower Gang?

00:01:46.300 I'm like, yeah, sure.

00:01:48.580 And so, I gave him my booking guys.

00:01:51.960 I either gave you my booking guys info or you already had it from when you had me on your show or whatever.

00:01:56.240 And then I guess you guys tweeted that I was going to be on the show.

00:02:00.520 And then, guys, you're never going to believe what happened.

00:02:03.520 Then, just a ton of text messages, DMs, one email, and multiple things of, like, what the hell are you doing?

00:02:15.200 And I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing.

00:02:19.220 I don't know.

00:02:19.760 I've never heard of this show.

00:02:20.820 And they're sending me screenshots and video clips and all this stuff.

00:02:24.620 And my reaction to these things ranged from, yeah, I mean, that could have been taken out of context.

00:02:32.000 That's a little edgy.

00:02:33.280 Jesus, what is this?

00:02:35.400 Those are all Fat Dave's quotes, I guarantee you.

00:02:38.900 Yeah, a good number of them.

00:02:40.540 So, I actually hope, you know, I mean, I know there are a few things you guys want to talk about. 0.95

00:02:44.820 But I hope we can talk about that, about, like, I guess we'll call it shit podcasting, like, you know, the shit posting as podcasting, like, what that's about. 0.90

00:02:53.220 But, you know, thanks for having me on. 0.98

00:02:54.900 I appreciate it. 0.95

00:02:55.460 Not to be confused with shitty podcasting. 0.78

00:02:59.100 Which we also specialize in. 0.89

00:03:01.620 Yeah, I was going to say, we'll see.

00:03:02.800 We'll see if those things aren't, if they're mutually exclusive.

00:03:06.500 And Stateless FGC, Five Bucks, wants Mike and Fat Dave to take their shirts off. 0.98

00:03:11.760 No, we have to already.

00:03:13.000 So, this is, we were talking about this at the beginning, that in our, both of us are wearing shirts for the same reason.

00:03:20.400 Because we want to remain married.

00:03:22.160 And so, I think it was Reed who says, oh, you guys are exposing us as sad single guys.

00:03:30.020 And I'm like, no, you're the ones that are shirtless.

00:03:33.660 This is normal what people wear to own podcasts, right?

00:03:36.500 So, no, this is, don't blame me and Fat Dave for this.

00:03:39.000 To give you a little background on how many are panelist, you'll find out later.

00:03:45.040 To give you a background on the concept behind the show is that libertarianism is not very fun.

00:03:53.640 That's really the thing about it is like, it works for us.

00:03:58.180 Because we're all a bunch of autists and we really enjoy theory and all this stuff.

00:04:01.580 But it doesn't work across the spectrum.

00:04:04.540 And I mean that, you know, pun intended.

00:04:05.920 So, we thought that, you know, we all have a good time in our group chat. 0.99

00:04:10.840 And we talk shit to each other and we keep it light. 0.99

00:04:12.900 And it's just a much more fun experience. 0.99

00:04:14.840 So, we're like, we're going to bring this to the world and see if there's an audience for it.

00:04:17.920 And it turns out there's a little bit of one.

00:04:19.300 So, that's the idea.

00:04:21.020 That I get.

00:04:21.800 So, the, you know, go buck wild with it.

00:04:24.680 You know, we don't have to have, I mean, you may not know this.

00:04:27.140 But there is no shortage of, we have a glut of, like, libertarians talking about, you know, praxis and policy and things like that.

00:04:34.540 And you can even dive into that while having fun.

00:04:37.420 I do that on my show and we do that on the Muddy Waters media. 0.99

00:04:40.760 And some of the stuff that I was shown was stuff where it was like, yeah, they're just, they're talking shit and they're being edgy.

00:04:45.780 I will say, there was some stuff that I looked at it and I'm like, I guess, so I guess, like, for, so I'll just go ahead and say, like, the ones that I looked at where I was like, why? 0.85

00:04:55.860 You know, like, just like, why?

00:04:56.940 So, like, there were, and I'm sure you know the ones that were, and first of all, I'll say the ones that were, like, out of context.

00:05:03.760 So, like, one was a video and it was a much shorter clip than the one Reed just showed from when him and, is it Jose?

00:05:11.560 Yeah.

00:05:12.120 I don't even know if that was on this show.

00:05:13.780 I think it was.

00:05:14.500 But regardless, they were talking about a domestic abuse situation.

00:05:19.260 And in the, in the longer, in the longer version that Reed showed, you guys were saying, you know, spousal abuse is wrong.

00:05:27.640 Domestic abuse is wrong.

00:05:28.720 And you were talking about, like, you know, getting all the context.

00:05:31.920 Whereas, like, they showed a single clip of, I think it was Jose saying, well, you know, like Dave Chappelle said, you know, or, or Bill Burr or whoever it was said, you know, sometimes, sometimes, sometimes they deserve it or something like that.

00:05:44.440 And again, it was a shitty way to put it, but it was in the greater context, it was not that.

00:05:49.640 So there was a lot of that.

00:05:50.940 But, like, for example, there was the, and I forget who it was.

00:05:54.020 It might not have even been any of you, but it was someone that I was told was with Tower Gang that, like, was sharing the, the was, were meme that's making fun of, like, a trans person killing themselves or something like that.

00:06:06.940 And there was one that was like, and then there was one where it was like the, it was the Transformers, but one of them was the cop that killed Derek Chauvin.

00:06:17.820 These are all me.

00:06:18.820 And then the other one, okay, okay, so these are all you.

00:06:21.640 No, no, I'm looking at.

00:06:22.900 I did a variation of the was, were, one with Derek Chauvin.

00:06:26.420 I, like, flipped it on its side and I had Derek Chauvin being, like, kneeling on the, on the, the person who was like.

00:06:33.140 Explaining the joke sounds so much worse.

00:06:36.360 No, no, listen, so.

00:06:37.740 And I did do the Transformer one.

00:06:40.120 Okay, so is this just, like, this is your humor and this is just you making fun of the thing?

00:06:45.500 Or is there, like, I, I, because I know there are, like, comedians who are like, okay, this is my joke, but here's the greater truth.

00:06:52.460 Is this, like, that's just your version of humor?

00:06:56.380 Yeah, I mean, definitely.

00:06:57.520 I think, I think, I think sometimes there's a message and sometimes it's just dumb jokes and we're trying to make each other laugh.

00:07:03.800 Like, like, uh, the great Patrice O'Neill once said, like, all bad jokes come from the same place as good jokes.

00:07:09.500 They come from a place of trying to be funny and, and we're just trying to be funny.

00:07:13.000 Now it's, it's off-putting sometimes because we're not comedians and we're not professionals. 0.69

00:07:16.920 So, like, we're gonna, we're gonna have missteps and we're gonna say shit that, like, definitely comes across the wrong way. 0.80

00:07:21.600 But I promise you, like, it comes from a good place. 0.78

00:07:24.560 Like, we are, we are really just trying to have a good time and make people laugh.

00:07:27.560 And I will grant you a hundred percent.

00:07:29.640 There has been things said on this show that I strongly disagree with.

00:07:34.000 Well, I'm sure.

00:07:36.140 There's that, you know, there, there are those things that you hear and you catch yourself from laughing and you're like, oh, I'm not gonna, like, laugh in public over that.

00:07:44.320 And then when people see you that you're like, I mean, it's a little different for you because you, like, actually are running as vice president.

00:07:50.840 But when you're just a libertarian podcaster or something, you know, when you make a joke that people really laugh at and really think is funny, that's pretty offensive.

00:07:59.880 But it's something that most people actually find funny, but they just pretend that they don't. 0.98

00:08:05.040 Then that gives them a little bit of more of a connection to you because libertarians are thought of as, like, stiff, you know, scholarly or, or, or like, just, like, complete idiots or whatever. 0.60

00:08:14.100 So, like, when you can kind of resonate with the working class by making a joke that would be made on a job site or something, sometimes it gives them a connection that they wouldn't otherwise have, I guess. 0.90

00:08:24.220 That's my best.

00:08:25.320 And I get that.

00:08:26.580 And it was like, and like Clint said, I'm sure there are things where it's like, Jesus, Toad, like, I'm sure, like, there isn't 100%. 0.99

00:08:32.320 Every goddamn episode. 0.97

00:08:33.800 Right. 0.99

00:08:34.240 So, and I get that.

00:08:36.460 And I will say, I'm glad the internet didn't exist when I was in my, when my, and I don't know how old you are, but when I was in, like, my early to mid-20s, like,

00:08:42.920 I'm glad that, that, that social media didn't exist.

00:08:46.060 And it was, you know, just me, like, sharing stuff with friends and stuff like that.

00:08:49.880 Because it, you know, certainly I understand edgy humor.

00:08:54.160 Drop the mixtape spike.

00:08:55.580 I want to hear the mixtape spike.

00:08:56.880 Drop it.

00:08:57.420 Oh, let me tell you.

00:08:59.740 So imagine the vice presidential candidate of the Libertarian Party dropping to help raise funds because there are, like, state affiliates who are, like, what if we did it where if you give, you know, a $5,000 donation, you'll play a track.

00:09:12.360 And I'm like, okay, imagine the media of former VP candidate drops mixtape to help party that has the N-word in it 7,000 times because we're talking 90s and 2000s rap.

00:09:24.760 And just make sure what that's like.

00:09:26.660 That's basically this show set to music.

00:09:29.040 And, you know, you're talking about, like, you know, you're talking about, like, you know, Wu-Tang.

00:09:33.320 You're talking about, like, Eminem and D-12, which, Jesus, you're talking about, like, stuff that I'll listen to it now and be like, man, I feel dirty listening to this.

00:09:42.140 Like, being a little older now, it's like, yeah, I grew up on sing along to it.

00:09:45.320 Now I'm like, what if I'm funny?

00:09:46.240 Like, you know, so the one thing I'll say about what it is that you're, you know, with this, with your, what you're considering funny with some of this stuff.

00:09:54.860 Like, I'll say I didn't find was, were funny.

00:09:57.060 Like, I don't get that.

00:09:58.100 I don't find it funny.

00:09:59.080 It's whatever.

00:09:59.580 And I'm not, you're all grown people.

00:10:01.260 That was not me originally.

00:10:02.440 I just made a variation of that one.

00:10:03.900 No, and I get that.

00:10:05.540 The point I'm making is I'm not coming on here.

00:10:07.660 I'm like, you're bad.

00:10:08.680 You shouldn't do this because, A, you're grown people.

00:10:11.960 You're already telling me you don't like half of what was put out there anyway.

00:10:15.520 And, B, also, like, there's not any use to that.

00:10:19.180 I'm going to tell you, the two things I want to tell you is that, so when a bunch of people hate you for it, understand that comes with the territory.

00:10:27.880 Because a lot of people, like, don't, aren't, not only aren't going to find it funny, but they're going to take it as an attack on them, especially when you're getting into racial stuff, trans stuff, LGBT stuff.

00:10:36.020 Like, they're going to take it as that.

00:10:37.660 So if that happens, then, you know, it's, I guess I'm saying, like, you can still do it, but it looks weird to be, like, to put that out and then be like, well, oh, my gosh, why are you, why are you upset about this?

00:10:50.400 You know, like, why are you mad about this?

00:10:52.660 Of course.

00:10:53.320 We have to own it.

00:10:55.120 I totally agree.

00:10:55.960 Exactly.

00:10:56.200 And that's what I would say.

00:10:57.040 Just own it.

00:10:57.540 And if it's like, and if people are like, yeah, I hate you because you put this up, it's like, okay, all right, you hate me, and I get that, and I've earned that.

00:11:04.920 I've earned being hated by putting that out there.

00:11:07.000 Right.

00:11:07.340 This is actually a thing that Jose, who just joined, thanks for coming in, Jose, before he goes on live with Clint right after this.

00:11:13.120 Yeah, I came to summon Clint and do a shameless plug before we do.

00:11:16.720 Do no way Jose's shirtless.

00:11:19.280 Well, Jose has always been double down.

00:11:22.740 It was like, if you put out something, don't, like, don't back off, because if you back off, then you're admitting that what you think was wrong. 0.95

00:11:31.000 But if you're coming at it either in a comedic way or there's a better point behind it, if you back down, then either you're giving up the comedy so they can come at you even harder, or you're giving up the point that you're trying to make so it just makes you look kind of dumb.

00:11:45.220 From a tactical perspective, it's always the way to go.

00:11:48.620 I know, like, you want to be rational sometimes, be like, well, I'll give up a little bit of ground, but, like, this is, like, the phenomena of Trump. 1.00

00:11:54.460 Like, even if he was completely wrong, like, I did nothing wrong, shit with a fat whore. 1.00

00:11:58.540 Like, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:11:59.660 Like, I'm not saying that's what's right.

00:12:01.340 I mean, it's mostly jokingly when I say it, but there is something to that tact that works in that regard.

00:12:06.880 Oh, absolutely.

00:12:07.480 There's a tact to it.

00:12:09.020 Look how that ended, though.

00:12:10.820 So what ends up happening is when there's not-

00:12:13.120 Are you telling me that the deep state is going to take us down?

00:12:17.120 I'm telling you that, yeah, you're going to be robbed.

00:12:19.860 You're going to lose the election.

00:12:20.840 They're going to steal the election.

00:12:22.320 No, so what happens is when there's not that feedback mechanism of going, yeah, you know what?

00:12:26.780 Maybe that was wrong.

00:12:27.600 I was maybe a bit too far.

00:12:28.980 Whatever.

00:12:29.380 I'm edgy, but that was a bit too far.

00:12:30.960 What ends up happening is now nothing is wrong and everything's okay.

00:12:36.500 And eventually, that's going to reach a point of comfort.

00:12:40.380 That's going to reach that boiling over point, that point of saturation, where even if a majority of people that, and again, I think there's like 3,200 hosts of this show.

00:12:50.220 If there's a growing consensus with a number of the people that are like, yeah, no, whatever that thing is, I'm not pointing out any individual person, but just like that thing was bad or wrong.

00:13:03.000 And, you know, a handful of you are like, no, screw that.

00:13:06.700 We have to double down.

00:13:07.640 We can't, we never surrender.

00:13:09.780 You know, you're, you're showing weakness.

00:13:11.720 What ends up happening is you end up painting yourself in a quarter where like almost everyone hates you.

00:13:16.140 And, and when that happens, that's that I'm very much, I know this.

00:13:21.420 Okay.

00:13:21.760 I'm 39 years old.

00:13:23.220 I know this thing.

00:13:24.880 I know I'm nearer thing.

00:13:26.420 I know this. 0.98

00:13:27.120 I know that the shit posting and the, I, I, again, I'm, I'm glad that I got all that out of my system before social media, but I know this, like I know the message board stuff and I'm glad it was anonymous because I know what that is. 0.98

00:13:40.680 And I know that, that whole thing over time, what I have found is that I would rather spend my time. 0.98

00:13:48.480 Even if someone disagrees with me vehemently, I would rather spend my time empathizing with them.

00:13:54.280 I'm even doing that now, meeting people where they are and trying to figure out where it is they're coming from and trying to plant some kind of seed. 0.99

00:14:01.600 And even if they walk away going, no, screw you. 0.97

00:14:03.840 I, you know, you're wrong, whatever. 0.99

00:14:05.280 Okay, great.

00:14:05.720 That, that was your reaction.

00:14:06.860 I have no control over that.

00:14:08.260 I guess at this point in my life, I crave, I crave knowing that I can own everything that I've said and feel comfortable with it.

00:14:17.440 I'm also a 39 year old married man who, you know, is retired and is, you know, doing a political career now.

00:14:24.500 So that's the perspective I'm in.

00:14:26.560 I'm not going to spend the rest of this show like, well, when you did this tweet, it was bad.

00:14:31.220 And when you did this video, it was bad.

00:14:33.240 I just am going to tell you, like, I will argue, Jose, and I understand the point you're making. 0.74

00:14:37.600 There's nothing wrong with when someone's like, hey, this was fucked up being like, you know what? 0.81

00:14:41.560 That probably was too far. 0.94

00:14:42.740 And I'm cool with that.

00:14:43.800 I get what you're saying, but I do think it's okay to be able to, to like, take that step back and be like, listen, I, that was my opinion would be, it depends on the medium and it depends on how they come at you.

00:14:53.840 Because if, especially for something like I'm offended, if, I mean, I jumped in kind of the middle of some a little bit, I think I'm catching context as I go.

00:15:00.380 So I made a, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, uh, yeah, I mean, it depends. 1.00

00:15:04.000 So like, if it's something you're offended by and you come at me some sort of way, yeah, fuck you. 1.00

00:15:09.020 I'm going to double down. 0.99

00:15:09.760 And I mean, I mean, I, maybe that's just me personally, but if someone's respectful and like, I don't really care for that, I have no problem with people being offended.

00:15:16.040 I mean, it's, I understand not everything's for everybody, uh, depending on what it is.

00:15:19.840 And it's like, okay, I'm sorry.

00:15:21.120 Maybe I'll keep that in mind and take it under consideration later.

00:15:23.260 I have no problem being reasonable.

00:15:24.860 It's just that when somebody comes at you a certain sort of way, especially for feelings, I'm sorry.

00:15:28.840 To some extent, I don't really care about your feelings.

00:15:30.740 I mean, personally, I'm also not running for office.

00:15:32.740 So also, I do want to say that it's like in our private group chat, like whenever somebody does, does something like really toe in the line, like we'll send it. 0.92

00:15:42.340 And others in the group, I'll be like, damn, man, that was like, you really went for it. 0.85

00:15:47.080 Didn't you? 0.98

00:15:47.460 Like, it will be ended like, they're like, yeah, we kind of did.

00:15:50.420 And either sometimes they, they just won't take the message down, but they'll definitely won't do it again.

00:15:57.000 So that's happened probably multiple times.

00:15:59.240 Oh, I'm sure it has.

00:16:00.180 I'm hearing it happen right now.

00:16:03.220 I regret many things that largely Toad has done, but I'm mostly, you know, I don't do it, but here's what happens. 0.98

00:16:10.860 So you're all internally saying that, like, yeah, no, that was shit. 0.88

00:16:13.840 Let's definitely not do that again. 0.99

00:16:14.820 But no one else knows that.

00:16:16.080 So they're all like, they see you and they're like, yeah, he's that.

00:16:19.920 Or this person is that.

00:16:22.320 So the thing, Jose, that I was bringing up, because I'm not going to get into every single edgy thing that has been said or done, because it's pointless.

00:16:28.040 And we'd spend three hours with just you saying the same thing.

00:16:30.540 Or the one thing that I focused on was the was were meme with the, and there are a few examples that are like that.

00:16:38.000 So we can just use that.

00:16:38.980 So if someone comes at you emotionally, if it's because they are in their feelings, maybe they're in their feelings because they're a trans person who battles with feelings of, you know, suicide or feelings of issues.

00:16:53.340 And now here's a meme where they're talking about something, making fun of that. 1.00

00:16:57.800 Yeah, no, in the same way that you had an emotional reaction to them telling you that you that they were offended and you're like, yeah, well, fuck you. 0.58

00:17:04.340 They were having an emotional reaction to them telling you something in your response being, hey, or and I'm not saying you ever did this, Jose, but whoever did putting something like that up. 0.98

00:17:13.880 So that that's the point I'm making.

00:17:15.320 There is something to be said about being willing to what you're internally telling each other, even on this show, already saying, yeah, some of this stuff's regrettable. 0.95

00:17:22.300 Being able to step back and be like, yeah, you know what, that that went too far, because otherwise you're being associated with shit that you literally don't like.

00:17:30.940 And and if nothing else, that's that's that. 0.95

00:17:33.520 Like I said, I'm I'm I think that's the point I want to make.

00:17:37.040 I'm about empathetic messaging.

00:17:38.240 I'm about meeting people where they are.

00:17:40.000 I learned it with sales.

00:17:41.460 I learned it with my business and I'm doing it in politics now.

00:17:44.280 And I'm not going to like, you know, if I could take this chair and do the thing that the cop does,

00:17:49.880 where they turn it around and sit down and have some straight talk with the kids.

00:17:52.940 I'm not I'm not like I've basically I've made my point on this.

00:17:57.100 I just you know, any any level of reflection that everyone here who is a grown mature adult or grown adult anyway,

00:18:03.700 is able to make on something.

00:18:06.220 I think it's I think it does more harm than good to be able to say, yeah, you know what? 0.98

00:18:09.860 That was shitty.

00:18:10.400 I'm sorry. 0.93

00:18:10.800 That was that was a bit much.

00:18:12.220 And I still disagree with you on this.

00:18:13.600 But, you know, this this was this wasn't something I actually agree with.

00:18:16.780 I mean, every situation is different.

00:18:18.280 There's no iron iron rule, in my opinion.

00:18:20.560 I mean, maybe you could come up with some iron rule, but like of engagement, you know, when it comes to social interactions.

00:18:25.240 So, I mean, obviously, like we can have our different opinions.

00:18:27.680 I don't even really remember the context of the was where I do remember. 0.98

00:18:30.920 I thought it was funny, but I was like, I was a little fucked up.

00:18:36.640 But I mean, I wasn't in that dog pile from what I recall. 0.78

00:18:39.380 Like I said, I don't I don't even know who it was or what the thing was.

00:18:43.080 But and that wasn't the only example.

00:18:45.360 But again, the point is, like, I I'm just I if I would be remiss not to say that I think that I'm just in general.

00:18:56.160 I'm a fan of of trying to understand where the so going this is as deep as I want to go into it.

00:19:03.700 Honestly, when when I was diagnosed with MS, I was told that the biggest thing I needed to do was stress reduction.

00:19:11.140 And the best way to reduce stress is to learn how to do stress reduction through like, you know, mindfulness techniques and learning about different things.

00:19:17.380 And one of the biggest things that I came across was the idea of stoicism.

00:19:21.580 And it's in the Tao as well, where if I'm having an emotional reaction to something, the best thing I can do is figure out why am I having that emotional reaction and then adjusting to that.

00:19:32.300 And in interacting with others, if they're having an emotional reaction, instead of having an emotional reaction to them, try to figure out why are they having that emotional reaction?

00:19:40.000 And if someone's having an emotional reaction to like a meme that makes fun of suicide or that makes fun of their ethnicity or makes fun of whatever, it's not hard to figure out what they're upset about.

00:19:48.400 And, you know, if if a brief moment of saying, you know what, that was a bit too far, completely derails that all of that shit that ends up happening and the hate that's going not just against you, but everyone that's associated with this thing, including me now, then that's, you know, that that's that helps a long, a long way to doing that. 0.97

00:20:07.920 But I have a I have a question for you from from a shirt wearing 39 year old political figure to a shirtless 39 year old shit talker. 0.98

00:20:17.020 I know. I know. I know. I just quick question. 0.99

00:20:22.920 I think I think that there is something to be said for everything you just said, I actually agree with.

00:20:27.740 However, there is also a flip side to this coin where people that are in minority classes, sometimes some of them like to be treated totally normally and they like to be joked about and they like to be the butt of a joke. 1.00

00:20:40.720 And sometimes it makes them feel like they're part of the broad community.

00:20:45.580 It makes them less othered, you know, like they get to feel like they're one of us.

00:20:49.900 And and I actually know a trans person that watches this show and they enjoy the fact that we take it so lightly. 0.96

00:20:55.260 And so, like, I grant you there will be trans people that absolutely fucking despise us for some memes that other people have posted. 0.93

00:21:03.480 I and personally, I wouldn't have posted those. That's just me. 0.97

00:21:06.040 But I'm not going to shame them because I understand that, like, these people are genuinely trying to come from a good place.

00:21:11.720 So that's that's just my both sides of this thing to just give you some everyone is going to have a different reaction to something, which is why, like, if that's why, like, I'll put out stuff like I'm about as edgy as it gets while still being even a mildly mainstream figure.

00:21:27.600 Right. So I'll put out stuff and there will be people who will either directly message me or contact me like I think that was a bit too far.

00:21:35.220 And depending on the level of feedback I get, really, do I, like, pull something back entirely?

00:21:40.520 But there have been stuff I've taken down. You know what? That probably was a bit too far.

00:21:44.100 And at the very least, and if it was something that wasn't too far, but it did offend specific people, I'll be like, listen, this was what my intention was.

00:21:53.040 It wasn't this what this what this what this what this thing was addressing this.

00:21:58.900 This has nothing to do with Democrats. These are like LP members that reached out to me.

00:22:02.480 They were activists.

00:22:03.300 I'm sorry. I hate to interrupt, but Jose has got to run. We have a live stream.

00:22:08.260 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You guys go ahead.

00:22:09.700 We're going to head out, but you guys you guys enjoy.

00:22:12.460 Jose, yeah.

00:22:15.260 Give it give a plug on top of your peck flex. 1.00

00:22:17.700 Jose, we've already seen your balls on Twitter. 0.99

00:22:19.940 That was a complete and utter accident. 0.99

00:22:22.860 I thought I put a bar over the whole member, but my nuts were still hanging out. 0.56

00:22:26.400 I didn't realize it. My bad.

00:22:28.260 I apologize. That wasn't meant to be a nude for anyone ever saw that.

00:22:31.600 If you want it, I'll send it to you.

00:22:33.300 Um, yeah, I got we're about to go go live on my channel to do the anarchist handbook section for Lewis Ling.

00:22:41.260 Uh, Clint is the person I chose for that because he looks like a bald version of him with a more prominent goatee.

00:22:46.960 So, um, yeah, uh, and that should be good.

00:22:49.680 We'll do that. 0.52

00:22:50.500 If you, if you so decide that this is trash and you don't want to be there, but stick around.

00:22:54.000 And because it's Lewis Ling, it's only going to be like 20 minutes and then he'll probably be back here. 0.95

00:23:01.960 And then we're going to blow our brains out.

00:23:04.400 Mad respect to you, Spike, for coming on here and, and, uh, and putting your life on the line doing this stuff.

00:23:10.860 We'll see you soon.

00:23:11.400 That was a suicide joke, guys, but Lewis Ling literally killed himself with dynamite.

00:23:16.360 Yeah.

00:23:17.820 All right, guys.

00:23:18.480 We'll see you soon.

00:23:18.880 It works.

00:23:20.080 Peace.

00:23:20.900 Peace.

00:23:21.220 We did have, uh, we did have two super chats to ask you questions, both from Hastiko Mitchell, who, uh, is a good friend of ours said, well, the first one was, I know Spike loves hip hop, which you already said.

00:23:32.980 Does he say the N word along with the song when he's alone?

00:23:36.260 No.

00:23:37.160 So I learned this, I learned this from my, uh, from my, this was actually last year on the campaign trail.

00:23:44.760 Um, I learned this from, uh, my, probably if not my best friend, one of my best friends who I had as my assistant slash body man slash whatever.

00:23:56.200 And honestly, the reason I had him there was because, uh, I always wanted to have at least one person.

00:24:01.500 Cause my, my wife was not always there.

00:24:03.700 One person I knew I could trust.

00:24:05.260 I'm on the road.

00:24:05.840 I'm dealing with all these different people.

00:24:06.960 Everyone wants a piece.

00:24:07.900 You know, people are all these political considerations or whatever.

00:24:10.300 I wanted one person I could trust anyway.

00:24:11.800 So he's on the road with me all the time.

00:24:13.520 And so we watch his, his kid, he's black and his kid is saying something and it's very clear.

00:24:21.400 She's like a toddler that she's saying the N word and everyone around her is going, oh no, she's saying neighbor.

00:24:28.120 And I'm like, nah, I've been in a van with your, with your, your husband here.

00:24:34.080 She's not saying neighbor.

00:24:35.460 And so, but we realized.

00:24:38.000 It's a great excuse though.

00:24:39.500 You can just be neighbor.

00:24:40.840 And it, and it's, it's, you know, you gotta be careful that, you know, because there's a hard R in neighbor.

00:24:46.420 Uh, and if you say neighbor, it's like, no one, now no one knows what you're saying.

00:24:50.360 So, uh, there's a, there's a version of saying that, that you can say neighbor.

00:24:54.540 Now I have been told, cause I had friends with someone who's in karaoke and she said neighbor a few times in like a fast rap song.

00:25:01.100 And people were mad at her and she's like, don't say neighbor.

00:25:04.080 So, um,

00:25:05.440 They're mad at her because she didn't actually say it.

00:25:08.060 Yeah.

00:25:08.580 Well, they're mad.

00:25:09.160 Well, cause she said neighbor, but when you say it fast and no one knows, no, people know what the word's supposed to be.

00:25:14.540 And then they're like, I can't believe you said it.

00:25:16.100 So no, I, I don't say it.

00:25:17.520 Uh, I do.

00:25:18.300 I, I quietly say neighbor to myself.

00:25:19.900 It brings a whole lot of new meaning to whenever Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor.

00:25:23.040 So that was, it's very hard to turn that into a Rand Paul assault joke, but you did it.

00:25:33.620 So it's like, I got, I got a question.

00:25:36.440 It's related to what we were just talking about, but, um, I mean, when I do drag people like crazy on Twitter, but it's always punching up, you know, it's always going, unless someone comes at me sideways, then I'll take them out.

00:25:48.360 But it's always like going against the McCain's or, you know, uh, Marianne Williamson, if I have to sometimes, and like people like that.

00:25:56.520 And I've gotten several messages from like, uh, very like high ranking officials, I guess, in like the libertarian circles, people who would never be able to say that publicly.

00:26:09.260 And they've messaged me like, Hey, thank you for saying that.

00:26:12.520 That's something that I agree with that I'd never be able to say.

00:26:15.560 Okay. So do you guys appreciate, like, I mean, I understand like if it's trans jokes or something, how that's not really punching up, but if people are like saying really controversial jokes that are taking on the power structure that you couldn't get away with, is that something you appreciate seeing occasionally?

00:26:31.700 Oh, of course. Listen, there's so much stuff I'd like to say about John McCain that would not be the least bit appropriate.

00:26:36.500 And if I see someone else doing it, I'm like, I'm like, uh, there we go. Because John McCain is the Hitler of many people.

00:26:43.440 Yeah. Yeah.

00:26:44.400 Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney and George Bush and Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Donald Trump, for that matter, are the Hitlers of many different people and rightfully so.

00:26:55.100 And so to have someone come out and attack them, I don't, you know, even me as a, I've never actually been in an elected office, but I put myself out there as a politician.

00:27:05.960 And so when I see people ravaging me and attacking me, I'm like, that comes with the territory. I shouldn't have put myself in this position. I already knew it was going to happen. I'm not worried about it. Right.

00:27:14.260 So, I mean, it doesn't, there's stuff that said that I don't like, and I wish they wouldn't. Um, but it is what it is. Someone who's actually voted or signed off or ordered murders.

00:27:24.700 Yeah.

00:27:25.120 Say what you want. That's, that's not what I, yeah, no, that is not what I'm talking about. And again, there's stuff that I'm not going to say. And there's even things I've seen where I'm like, God, you know, whatever. But, but that, yeah.

00:27:36.480 I mean, cause that's not just punching up from like a clout standpoint. You're going after the power. You're going after people that are in positions of authority that are inflicting harm on people actively doing so. And even, even the people that are in prominent positions who advocate for it.

00:27:51.460 So, you know, you're going after like, uh, I don't know. Um, uh, God, what's that guy named Paul Krugman or something like that. Obviously, you know, I'm going to give you a lot more grace on what you say to Paul Krugman.

00:28:01.760 Now, I hope you wouldn't say as much to Paul Krugman as you would to like an actual warmonger, like a John McCain or someone who's actually voted or signed off on something like that happening. There's advocating for something. And then there's actually like carrying it out, making sure that it happened. Right. So, yeah, no, I, that's one thing, but like, you know, and it's not just like a, a, a, a trans or

00:28:21.440 a racial thing. It's when you're, when an ordinary, when I'm just an everyday person who's, and again, a lot of these people are in the LP, not that that should matter. Um, cause this isn't, I'm not, this isn't a political thing. This is a, I, the reason that I'm doing so well with an autoimmune disease in which my, my immune system is convinced that my central nervous system is something that has to be destroyed.

00:28:43.440 The reason I'm doing as well as I am is because I have adapted a lifestyle that is based on recognizing existing and not reacting. And so what I see, when I see this stuff, I see an attempt often through like a reactionary attempt to then create a reaction, which just leads to a chain. And I watched this and I go, you know, this person is hurt. This person's angry. You know, this person is, is looking at it for observing it.

00:29:13.420 And saying, wow, I hate this person. Nothing good came from this, right? Like that's, that's the dividing line there. And I think that again, I get edgy humor and I get that there's going to be stuff that you put out. And I'm not talking about like the, the transgender, the trans, um, uh, trans suicide thing. Uh, but like, for example, like you're, you know, put out something that's, you know, like an edgy joke. And, you know, here comes the outraged white liberal to tell you how racist it is.

00:29:39.340 Meanwhile, you got black people laughing left and right. That are people that know you that know a, you're being good natured and B it's funny. And, and, and no, I don't think that George Floyd one is an example of that, but the, uh, but yeah, no, that was definitely not an example of that, but there are, yeah. 0.65

00:29:55.340 Well, regardless, like, so there are, there are, there are examples of that where people are gonna be like, I'm offended. All right, great. You're offended. Like, you know, also it wasn't for you.

00:30:05.520 But I, again, I think that any amount of taking a step back and going, is it possible that this person is legitimately offended? It's not just them expressing offense to signal their offense or because they already don't like you or something. Is there, could there be a legitimate reason to be upset? In which case you can disarm the thing by going, yeah, you know, that was too far.

00:30:29.640 I, yeah, that was because then, then when you don't do it, that makes it more powerful. If everyone knows that you're always going to double and triple down, then it doesn't mean anything when you stand on something. Cause you're standing for everything. Every hill is a hill to die on. But if there are hills that you're willing to be like, yeah, no, I was too far. I didn't like that. He did that. Or I didn't like that. I did that. I shouldn't have done that, whatever. And then there are hills that you were like, no, no, no, this I stand on. Now that actually means something. It doesn't just mean that you're contrary and always picking battles. It means that there's a thing. So that, that's, that's my point to that.

00:30:59.320 But no, no, John McCain, have at it.

00:31:01.580 Well, I would add two things. One to your final point there is now, if you aren't, if you are going to pick your like hills to stand on, you do have to pick the actual hill to stand on too. You can't just like, this is something that we saw. I mean, not, not a shot at you, but just at the LP last year, whenever we saw, you know, we actually had to like almost force them. I remember Dave was talking about this, not me, but the, the, the, the imposter Dave.

00:31:26.580 We had to kind of force the LP national Twitter to basically denounce any type of vax mandates or any type of lockdowns and all this stuff. And it was just like, listen, if you're going to pick the hills to die on, you have to pick the, you know, pick the right ones to do so on too.

00:31:48.800 Oh yeah, absolutely. And now you're not, that's even not even like from a joking standpoint or serious policy stuff. This is, you know, we last year and I'm at the bottom of the ticket. There's very little attention.

00:32:02.400 You know, I watched how, like, if I filled in for an event for Joe, it went from, there were 15 confirmed news media outlets to like two, because I was the VP who cares about the VP, right? It's the, it's all about the president. And, and, and, you know, especially for a third party, it's not like with Kamala Harris, it's like, or with Mike Pence, it's like, these people are a heartbeat away with me. It's like, yeah, he's the schmuck. That's with Joe Jorgensen. Right. So I'm out here doing, you know, illegal anti lockdown events in direct opposite,

00:32:31.880 indirect defiance of, of mandates and orders across the country. Sometimes with the police right there and me saying, listen, guys, I tap, this is peaceful assembly. Do you do what you have to do? I'm going to do what I have to do, but that wasn't getting attention. But from the, especially from the party, there was, I'm not sure there was anyone that's like, yeah, lockdowns are good, but you also saw, you saw an example in the party.

00:32:57.360 And this is why, I mean, there's a whole rabbit hole. We can go down on this and why I think we should be focused way more on local and state affiliates than on national. National is a series of committees.

00:33:08.420 And we don't believe in democratization of decisions because we recognize that instead of allowing stakeholders to make decisions and then people to join them and become stakeholders as well.

00:33:17.460 Instead, you just have everyone kind of having an equal say and, and it could, everything gets committed to death. And, you know, what was supposed to start as, you know, an idea for a bicycle by the time it's done, it's like, you know, like a coat hanger with wheels or something like it always.

00:33:30.520 So when we're seeing this right now, perfect example, that the vaccine mandate videos that, that we've said, we want a vaccine mandate video and here's who we want in it.

00:33:41.240 And the LP in record time, and I will give credit to Larissa, the comms director in record time, they got it out there and they've got a link to make donations.

00:33:51.980 And they've said, you know, we're, we're going for a hundred grand because that will let us buy all sorts of airtime and get it everywhere.

00:33:57.220 But whatever amount we raise, we're making this video, we're putting out there as well as we can. Right now, even still, because it's happening from national and because there are the committees that has to go through and the decision-making people has to go through and a review board that it has to go to, it could take another week.

00:34:14.340 Plus it could take weeks, right? As opposed to Dan, uh, small was literally just made a video.

00:34:20.360 Like he just took some footage from Kennedy and some random clips.

00:34:24.400 He's right there in the chat right now.

00:34:25.940 Yeah, literally. Yeah.

00:34:27.220 He made random clips and made a video within like 48 hours and could, and could have done it sooner. Right. Like he also has a job and he was able to do that. That's the difference between individual human action and a democratized thing happening from a series of committees at national. So I guess the point I'm making from this is no one in national is like that I know of is like, yeah, no vaccine mandates. I'm all for that. It's just the nature of the beast.

00:34:53.800 And so, and that's fine. And so, and that's fine. And we need a national committee for things like ballot access for things like coordinating between different state affiliates for national campaigns to have a list of, of activists and all that. There's all sorts of reasons to have it.

00:35:05.620 We need to stop waiting for it. We need to stop waiting for it to lead us. It's not going to happen and it shouldn't happen. No one. Do you even know who the chair of the Republican or Democratic national conventions are or committees are?

00:35:18.620 I couldn't tell you.

00:35:20.620 No, because no one cares.

00:35:21.940 No.

00:35:23.120 It's led by their thought leaders, by their pundits, by their elected officials. You know, right now the Republican Party is figuring out if it's the party of DeSantis or Trump, not whoever the hell is in charge of the RNC.

00:35:36.280 The Democratic Party is very much solidly the party of Joe Biden that's figuring out how they're going to become the party of Kamala Harris and everyone else that's involved. And I guess to a lesser extent, the party of AOC or whatever. Bernie Sanders is somewhere in there.

00:35:49.160 But I don't even know. I think it's Tom. I'm looking at his face, the guy in Virginia. I think it's that guy is the head of it. But I don't even know. Like, there might be someone else. No one cares. We need to stop caring about the LNC and the Libertarian National Committee and let them do what their job is. And if we're going to get shit done, let's do it. Like, we talk about human action. Let's take human action. And that's what I'm trying to lead by example with going across the country every weekend.

00:36:13.520 Makes sense. Because we, I mean, this is, I mean, with guys like Dave, you, we've seen Scott Horton, all these kind of thought leaders really get some really national attention lately. And within the past year, also, I'm trying to think who was the other one. I mean, well, Clint was on Timcast. I mean, that's a million subs right there. And he's just, I mean, these people are going out and actually putting out a good, a message saying, you know,

00:36:41.360 that is much stronger than the LNC has or even can right now. Like what you're saying to the committee, like sometimes they not, might not even be able to put out these messages that, you know, a single person can as strongly or as quickly.

00:36:59.360 Or even a group of people, a small group of people working together on an immediate shared goal and just getting it done. And they're already all on the same page and they do it. It's just the nature of the beast. Even if they are, even if every single member of the LNC and the XCOM and every employee of the Libertarian Party is every bit as much behind fighting against these vaccine mandates as the four of us are.

00:37:23.560 And everyone watching is, which I have no reason to think they aren't, or at least that they aren't very strongly against this. They put out another email address, doubleding down on saying, we shall not comply. That's about as strong language as I've ever seen from the LP.

00:37:37.500 Yeah.

00:37:37.880 Just the nature of it. It's, if nothing else, it's going to take a longer time just because of that. So just, I just, we need to stop like this whole, like, we need to make sure that the LP is leading and messaging. No, no, we need to lead in messaging.

00:37:53.560 Like we are the Libertarian Party. We are the Libertarian movement. So let's do it. Stop waiting for someone whose job it is to do Robert's Rules of Order and, you know, make sure that the fires are hot, the home fires are hot when we get home. Stop trying to put it on them. They're not structured for it. It's not what their actual job description is.

00:38:14.960 You know, if we're going to do anything, advocate for Larissa to have more autonomy and more authority to be able to make more moves quickly without having to go through that process that, that comms can do that. But, you know, they're not, stop waiting for a committee to lead us. We don't even agree. That's not even what we think should be done.

00:38:30.020 Well, that's a controversial opinion. And you've got another one. You know, Tower Gang has always said, white women must be stopped. 1.00

00:38:39.020 Yes, we did.

00:38:40.560 So, white, so we thought, I talked, was this on Clint's show or on your show that I talked about?

00:38:46.760 We talked about it on both, actually.

00:38:48.280 The power of, the power of white women. 1.00

00:38:50.720 Robin, you know you like us shirtless, by the way.

00:38:53.300 Well, there was one other. 0.99

00:38:55.100 Hasdika was making some kind of shit in the chat. 0.99

00:38:58.440 He said, what's Spike's favorite Jewish slur? 0.99

00:39:01.180 So he just wanted to get that real quick.

00:39:02.680 My Jewish slur. 0.92

00:39:04.780 I like telling Gentile jokes. 1.00

00:39:06.880 So, for example, I'll say, so a Gentile calls his mother and says, Mom, I'm so sorry I haven't called you. 1.00

00:39:12.780 I've been really busy.

00:39:13.720 And his mom says, that's okay.

00:39:16.120 Or then there's another one that a Gentile guy goes to the store and he says, he sees this fridge and he really likes it. 0.99

00:39:23.720 And so one of the salespeople comes up and he goes, how much is that fridge?

00:39:27.180 And they say, it's $1,100.

00:39:29.000 And he goes, okay.

00:39:29.580 So, this, those are my favorite Gentile jokes. 1.00

00:39:37.020 So, no, I'm pretty like, I mean, I've seen some stuff that I, about, yeah, I've seen stuff about Jews that I don't find funny.

00:39:44.960 But I actually, like, I joke about being Jewish.

00:39:48.540 We were actually, there was a contract I was working on, on one of these things that people, someone's bringing me out.

00:39:54.180 And basically, it's just, you know, like negotiating what's actually going to happen out there.

00:39:58.640 I don't really get paid for anything, but, like, they'll reimburse for, like, flights and hotels and stuff.

00:40:04.380 So, I'm not, like, coming out.

00:40:05.800 Usually, I end up paying for food.

00:40:07.260 They pay for, you know, the transportation and the hotel and that kind of stuff.

00:40:11.460 But so, I was looking at it and they're like, you know, so have you had a chance to look at the contract?

00:40:16.220 And I'm like, yes.

00:40:16.800 And they're like, what do you think?

00:40:17.560 I'm like, well, I am Jewish.

00:40:18.960 I'm going to need some time.

00:40:19.920 So, like, things like that.

00:40:21.700 Yeah.

00:40:22.720 I pay fairly fast and loose.

00:40:26.100 And typically, when, like, a Gentile makes a Jew joke, I don't, like, you know, that's our joke. 0.59

00:40:31.180 You can't do that.

00:40:32.060 But, like, I mean, like I said, I've seen plenty of things where people are like, yeah, that was just a joke about Jews.

00:40:36.500 And I'm like, yeah, that was, like, not remotely funny at all.

00:40:39.180 I don't think that was in a weird place.

00:40:42.000 But, yeah, money well spent.

00:40:43.500 Yeah.

00:40:43.700 No, that's the Gentile jokes are where it's at. 1.00

00:40:46.160 But back to white women. 1.00

00:40:50.300 White women, yes. 1.00

00:40:51.020 White women. 1.00

00:40:51.560 So, it is my contention that, especially, like, soccer moms, that demographic, which are large, I mean, they're not all white, but largely are, you know, white women between the ages of their anywhere from early to mid-20s up into somewhere in their 40s, maybe even some in their 50s.

00:41:10.220 That group, if they decide that something is unacceptable, it ends.

00:41:17.080 It ends.

00:41:18.500 I have watched, you know, the reason that the federal government is having to get involved with the mask mandates is because at the local level, you had angry soccer moms. 0.99

00:41:28.600 You had angry, largely white women, not always white women, but you had the moms coming out and saying, no, my kid is coming home covered in snot. 1.00

00:41:40.040 That's not even the mask he left with, you know, or that she left with.

00:41:43.740 They traded it with their friend.

00:41:45.220 This isn't doing anything to slow the spread of anything, much less COVID. 1.00

00:41:48.620 And it's stupid and it's ridiculous and we're not, you know, there's no reason to do it. 0.99

00:41:53.620 And they were having to, those mandates were dropping left and right and they're having to now, even though their own studies showed that the masking kids doesn't work because they're kids and, you know, kids are filthy. 0.99

00:42:04.880 You know, so because of that, they've now had to do it at the federal level because the moms were killing it there. 1.00

00:42:11.420 And I'm sure the moms are going to organize and kill it at the federal level too. 1.00

00:42:14.140 So my thing is we need to co-opt, uh, the groups that are, you know, running this country for lack of a better word.

00:42:23.440 Like I am rare among like, you know, the more like hardcore and cap types in that I see boomers and I see like, you know, white women or soccer moms or whatever you want to call them. 1.00

00:42:35.400 And I'm like, I want that on our side.

00:42:39.120 Yeah.

00:42:39.700 Not necessarily.

00:42:40.340 And it may not be them.

00:42:41.300 We're going to get them on everything.

00:42:42.380 But if we can convince them that the federal reserve is bad, it's robbing them and it's robbing Claxton, Braxton and Paxton of their future, then I'm all for it guys.

00:42:54.000 Like I, I'm, I'm all for that.

00:42:55.740 And I, I, I left and right, get, get co-opt these, these power groups, even on just one thing and, and accomplish something that, you know, us sitting here and being cerebral as hell all the time are never going to be able to accomplish.

00:43:11.740 So that's why, you know, if I can go in and meet with, you know, a big group of normies and, and present it from like, you know, talk about the war on drugs.

00:43:20.900 And instead of saying, you know, well, you should be able to put whatever you want in your body, which is true, but they don't agree with that or care about that.

00:43:28.240 Explain how the war on drugs has made their like neighborhoods less safe and, and why gang violence exists and why cartels exist and why the opioid epidemic exists.

00:43:37.360 Now you got like, yeah, you got the white women going, we got to end the war on drugs. 1.00

00:43:41.260 And, and then there's a way better chance of it happening than if the four of us are talking about it.

00:43:46.000 Well, you got to think like these, these two bachelors right here were like smeared, like obvious bachelors.

00:43:51.600 Yeah, obvious bachelors.

00:43:53.000 But I mean, like, if you look at it, like why?

00:43:55.560 Who's the more obvious bachelor?

00:43:57.280 I think that we know the answer.

00:43:59.200 That one.

00:44:02.440 I didn't say anything.

00:44:03.640 I didn't say anything.

00:44:04.640 These two are my friends.

00:44:08.680 So, I mean, I can, I can do it.

00:44:10.380 I don't have a video game, a gamer chair.

00:44:13.860 That's why.

00:44:14.920 Well, I mean, these two are shirtless.

00:44:17.040 And then why did we wear shirts?

00:44:18.920 Spike, because our wives and like, I'm not going to have to do it. 1.00

00:44:24.000 It's the perfect example.

00:44:26.820 It's like we're literally on a show talking about, we're literally on a show where we're talking about whether we're willing to die on the hills of like, 0.50

00:44:34.340 shitty memes that hurt people's feelings.

00:44:36.960 And yet, two of us are literally wearing shirts if for no other reason than our wives will never let us hear the end of it.

00:44:45.500 And we will suffer as human beings as a result of it.

00:44:48.800 Now, my, my, my wife is not white, but she is a woman. 0.88

00:44:52.340 And, yeah, but, but same, same concept. 0.96

00:44:55.400 I was going to say, white women must be stopped then. 1.00

00:44:58.180 Just, just, just, just, just fat babies ones. 1.00

00:45:01.700 No, the, the, the, I say that the, yeah, just fat, my wife can't be stopped. 1.00

00:45:07.240 The, the, the, there is a thing about like, you know, I, I will say, I think that what, that women, we need to be, we need to be co-opting the power structures in this country. 0.99

00:45:17.960 Any time that we can, uh, and power structures are basically a bunch of normies. 0.75

00:45:22.520 Like, that's the weird thing about our system is like the power structure are people that will like say something that when we hear it, it's just like the most like pre-packaged, nonsensical, something between CNN and, and Fox.

00:45:35.180 And you go, geez, you really think that, but you have to like, again, going back to the empathy thing and going back to why it's important to be able to have that, that pressure release there is like figure out what it is they're actually worried about.

00:45:48.500 Cause for them to think this nonsense, it's not that they're actually like, you know, they've approached it from a philosophical standpoint. 0.99

00:45:55.480 Clearly they haven't like it's garbage that they believe it's that they, someone convinced them that they're concerned about their family, about their safety, about their loved ones, about their health, about their future, about their, whatever their financial considerations is best handled with this dumb shit. 0.98

00:46:09.780 So why would we not instead, when we can try to find ways and find people who are good at it, go and meet with them and go, go meet them where they are. 0.97

00:46:17.240 And, and from their standpoint, you know, a lot of people on my Facebook are like, how are you doing well?

00:46:21.960 It's cause I, I don't, can't tell you the last time I used the term natural rights on my Facebook.

00:46:27.140 I say stuff that makes normies go, I can't believe the government's doing that.

00:46:31.760 Or wow, what an incredible thing.

00:46:34.100 And government wasn't even involved.

00:46:35.940 And it's because I'm talking like a normie.

00:46:37.940 It's like, you know, Mr. Rogers neighborhood for libertarianism.

00:46:41.260 Neighborhood. 0.99

00:46:43.560 God damn it. 0.99

00:46:44.940 Also, have you ever convinced in an argument, convinced a woman that they were wrong? 0.99

00:46:50.360 Like, it's just, it's never happened.

00:46:52.460 Like you're not going to, or your wife, or you get into an argument with them.

00:46:55.560 It's like, you're not going to convince them with arguments and like logic.

00:46:59.600 They're just going to.

00:47:01.440 At best I've been able to convince or try to convince a woman. 1.00

00:47:07.940 No, I haven't been able to, but at best, at best, I have possibly been able to convince

00:47:14.040 or help a woman, convince a woman that, you know, she was right about the thing that I'm

00:47:22.260 saying and try to like, Oh, I see what you're saying.

00:47:25.660 Jiu-jitsu thing.

00:47:26.600 And like, yeah, I get it.

00:47:28.260 Yeah.

00:47:28.520 It makes sense.

00:47:29.320 The guy who's the best at this is Brent DeRitter, who his wife is also beautiful and incredibly

00:47:35.140 intelligent, but unlike me, he's not extremely attractive.

00:47:39.060 Um, and so like, but what he makes up for that extremely attractive and virile and basically

00:47:44.420 like the epitome of a man as I am, but what he does make up for that is in, he's a smooth

00:47:50.360 talker.

00:47:51.200 Like he's, his game is always on a hundred because he's able to like empathize and do

00:47:56.440 the thing.

00:47:56.960 Me with my, my wife's way too smart for that. 1.00

00:47:58.520 Like I, I literally, I go to my wife and I'm just like, here's the thing.

00:48:02.320 Here's what it is.

00:48:03.560 And she, you know, basically tells me how it's going to go from there.

00:48:06.460 Um, but, uh, you know, she's, she's just way. 0.99

00:48:09.140 Yeah.

00:48:09.720 Brent's better at that than me.

00:48:10.900 I'm going to actually call him after this and see what, the thing is like, it feels like

00:48:16.580 we want to like, uh, stop the white women in power, but co-opt the white, like the actual 1.00

00:48:22.220 power. 1.00

00:48:22.780 Because I know the white women are in fucking soccer moms already in power just because of the 1.00

00:48:27.480 majority, but like the white women, like Nancy Pelosi, the, the, uh, the white liberal, like 1.00

00:48:32.840 blue check, we're like, let's stop them and then co-opt your, you know, your aunt may or

00:48:40.700 whatever.

00:48:41.200 I was going to say, I just want to point out that I bullied Marianne Williamson in Afghanistan.

00:48:48.020 So, you know, that was co-opted a white woman. 1.00

00:48:53.260 Robin, you can ruin my DMS with that pick as well. 0.79

00:48:56.400 If you want.

00:48:56.740 Yeah.

00:48:57.300 So I, so I don't know.

00:49:00.180 Do you guys know what she's talking about?

00:49:02.360 No, no.

00:49:03.460 Okay.

00:49:03.880 All right, cool.

00:49:04.440 So this is good.

00:49:05.320 So, uh, and for those of you watching, if you don't know in Orlando at the actual in-person

00:49:09.480 convention, I'm already the nominee.

00:49:10.780 Cause we did that online, whatever.

00:49:12.340 And so we did the, we were in the in-person and, uh, my, my wife and I, you know, we're

00:49:17.940 all dressed up for, I think that was either Friday night or Saturday night.

00:49:20.620 We were dressed up for like the gala or the dinner or whatever.

00:49:23.280 And we wanted to get a good picture of us when we're out and about my wife and I, you

00:49:27.200 know, we're dressed up and we try to get at least one photo of how we look that day.

00:49:31.280 A, so that, um, so we have that like memory of like, remember when we were doing that and

00:49:35.360 B so that we don't replicate it too soon because my God, the internet, Oh, you wore that like

00:49:40.000 two weeks ago.

00:49:40.620 You only have two shirts.

00:49:41.620 Like anyway, so, so I, I literally have like, uh, I have like 10 shirts, but they're like

00:49:48.520 two different colors.

00:49:49.860 So they're all in the laundry right now.

00:49:51.960 You just lean into it.

00:49:53.880 So anyway, we go out to the pool, we go out to the pool at this, at this thing, because

00:49:57.780 everyone's out at the pool to see if someone will take a picture of us.

00:50:00.500 So instead of what happens is we get out there and that was when the, uh, well, it wasn't

00:50:05.160 just Mises, but all of Mises was there and they start chanting spike and it became this

00:50:10.620 whole like crazy thing.

00:50:11.600 And they're all like shirtless cause they're at the pool and there's a, like, I don't know,

00:50:15.640 300, 200 people.

00:50:16.760 And they're all like, take off your shirt, take it off, take it off.

00:50:20.240 And so I'm like, okay, guys, for many reasons, this shirt and tie and everything else are staying

00:50:25.740 on, but here's what we can do.

00:50:28.620 We're going to take a photo where my wife and I are fully dressed, but everyone else is

00:50:32.860 topless.

00:50:33.500 Okay.

00:50:33.800 And so they all like, I'd like a hundred plus people at something like that are well

00:50:38.520 over 50.

00:50:39.060 Anyway, get behind me for this group photo.

00:50:42.340 I never see this group photo.

00:50:44.500 And like a week or two later, I'm on the, at this point, I'm, I'm traveling around the

00:50:49.020 country and I reached out to a few people and I'm like, do you have the photo?

00:50:54.060 And they're like, yeah, but have you seen it?

00:50:56.820 And I'm like, no, why, what happened?

00:51:00.280 Robin took it to heart.

00:51:01.780 She was also talking.

00:51:03.800 Was she the only woman who did?

00:51:06.700 Yeah.

00:51:06.920 True, true to form.

00:51:07.720 She's the only.

00:51:08.020 You know what?

00:51:08.340 I don't know. 0.70

00:51:10.580 White women must be co-opted. 1.00

00:51:13.960 Yeah.

00:51:14.360 Robin, were you the only, if she's still in, like, were you the, I honestly don't know because

00:51:18.200 I never actually saw the picture.

00:51:19.520 I saw a weird cropped version because I cropped her out. 1.00

00:51:22.700 And it's like, it's like me, me and Tasha, my wife and like everyone to our right.

00:51:29.020 So on the left of the photo, but everyone to our left, Robin, who was close by.

00:51:33.360 She said, okay, you were the only one.

00:51:34.940 Yeah.

00:51:35.160 So you literally had to crop from like Robin, who was like right here and everyone over.

00:51:40.240 So it was this weird lopsided photo.

00:51:41.760 And I'm like, what happened?

00:51:42.520 And they're like, Robin happened.

00:51:43.480 I'm like, okay.

00:51:43.880 So I've never actually seen the full uncropped photo, which is fine.

00:51:46.540 Oh, wait.

00:51:46.780 So you're Tasha Cohen's husband.

00:51:49.080 That's who you are.

00:51:50.500 Oh, okay.

00:51:52.340 I told them Spike Cohen's coming on the show and they're like, who's that? 0.95

00:51:55.700 And I was like, oh, you're weirdo.

00:51:57.240 It was just as well.

00:51:58.080 It was just as well that they not get all worked up about Tasha Cohen's husband being here.

00:52:02.160 You know, then it gets.

00:52:03.840 And Justin said that Marianne canceled her appearance on his show because she was scared to read.

00:52:08.760 Oh, this is so great.

00:52:10.020 So you've seen me like badgering her for weeks, which I've laid off.

00:52:13.380 But she, so Justin joined in with me and we were both badgering her.

00:52:20.100 And then I thought I was muted.

00:52:22.720 Like I was like, there's no way she doesn't block me if I'm, you know, she would have blocked me by now if I'm not muted.

00:52:27.420 But Justin actually got her to give him her email address and say, yeah, well, email me and I'll come on your show.

00:52:35.840 And so then he sent me a private message like, hey, do you want to come on the show and have Marianne Williamson on?

00:52:41.720 And I was like, absolutely.

00:52:43.340 So then I tweeted out, I'll be going on a show with Justin.

00:52:46.540 Oh, no.

00:52:49.560 She sees it and she's like, okay, never mind.

00:52:53.460 Yeah, no.

00:52:54.300 Oh, I wonder why.

00:52:55.760 No, listen.

00:52:58.100 Okay.

00:52:58.640 So again, back to bad tactics.

00:53:00.760 That was a terrible tactic, right?

00:53:03.660 No, so I, yeah, no, she clearly didn't.

00:53:06.480 She was responding to you.

00:53:07.320 She responded to me as well.

00:53:08.660 I was obviously being, having, showing a little bit more tact than you were.

00:53:11.380 But I will, like, I make you look like, you know, like really, really reasonable and like, you know.

00:53:18.220 By contrast.

00:53:19.140 Because like you see me go at someone and then you can go kind of hard still and seem like very, you know, very professional.

00:53:26.640 So I'm kind of like.

00:53:28.040 So you're like flanking me.

00:53:29.100 Yeah, you hit my flanking.

00:53:30.640 It's because of the shirt.

00:53:31.860 It's the shirt.

00:53:33.160 Yeah, it's shocking.

00:53:34.540 What it is is shock and awe.

00:53:36.080 Like, have them go like, oh, my God, I can't believe he said that.

00:53:38.540 And then I go in and go, well, you know, you're supporting this.

00:53:40.880 And they're like, well, he does make a point there.

00:53:43.420 Yeah, I guess like it's bad.

00:53:45.100 Because I didn't like yell it.

00:53:47.300 But meanwhile, I will say, again, going back to the punching up thing.

00:53:50.580 Now, if you were coming at some, like, just some poor schmo who had that opinion, I'd be like, Reed, maybe lay off a little bit. 0.58

00:53:56.980 But like, I will admit, I've not seen every single thing you tweeted.

00:54:00.480 So maybe there was something where I might think that.

00:54:02.380 But like, honestly, you can just go at her.

00:54:04.680 Come at me sideways.

00:54:05.880 Other than that, it's all up.

00:54:07.780 So.

00:54:08.220 Right.

00:54:08.460 And the thing is, it's like, you know, so from that standpoint with this, it's like, you know, here's this lady who, you know, literally was talking in the debates, talking fire about U.S. imperialism and, you know, fighting the dark psychic forces of the whatever.

00:54:23.320 And all this magic crystals to whatever.

00:54:27.420 And then she's like, well, yeah, but also it's terrible what's happening to women, which it is. 1.00

00:54:32.860 It's terrible what's happening to women over there. 1.00

00:54:34.620 So let's bomb them because that'll help the women there. 1.00

00:54:37.440 They seem to like that getting bombed, right? 0.99

00:54:39.760 That's better than being subjugated. 0.99

00:54:41.540 Bomb them.

00:54:42.440 Like we just we just saw the the the the help them format for U.S. foreign policy.

00:54:50.220 They're a drone strike on a entire family, including children, like babies and toddlers, including girls who were applying for asylum to the U.S.

00:55:00.580 Yeah, that's what that looks like.

00:55:02.800 So, yeah, you being mean on Twitter to something to someone who's in a prominent role who actually ran for office, who's advocating for that.

00:55:09.900 I have a lot more grace for that than you going after.

00:55:12.580 And it worked.

00:55:13.820 I didn't get her on Dustin O'Donnell's podcast, but I did.

00:55:18.740 She did.

00:55:19.500 She did back off.

00:55:21.320 She did back off.

00:55:22.220 She did.

00:55:22.560 By the way, I saw this today.

00:55:24.140 It was the kind of but I'm just talking about anger translator.

00:55:27.660 Or spike is read with a with a filter.

00:55:34.160 You know, you never it goes both ways.

00:55:35.880 I mean, read being my anger.

00:55:37.960 So, like, if you take my opinion and add like we got to do some time.

00:55:42.780 Oh, man.

00:55:43.400 What's that?

00:55:44.300 That would be a funny video.

00:55:45.780 I'll say something and then you give the anger translator.

00:55:48.340 We should definitely let's that'll be the next time you have me on the show.

00:55:50.740 We'll do that.

00:55:51.340 Yeah, you'll have me do it because I can get worked up.

00:55:53.860 But I'm also like sitting here going, all right, I'm going to have to go in front of

00:55:57.740 the Rotary Club at some point or I'm going to have to go in front of whatever.

00:56:00.660 I want to be able to stand on every word that I'm saying in every situation.

00:56:04.960 So, you know, yeah.

00:56:06.320 And also, again, I'm in a point in my life where I'm like, I just there are certain levels

00:56:10.220 of smoke that I want.

00:56:11.300 And some of it I'm just like, if there's a more reasonable way for me to say this, I'll

00:56:14.560 do it.

00:56:15.120 But again, I give way more grace to, you know, you're going to go after a prominent person

00:56:18.520 or a politician or someone that's actually doing this stuff or advocating for it or

00:56:22.060 someone like her who has been a voice for anti-war.

00:56:24.720 And then she turns around and does this like woke imperialism thing. 1.00

00:56:27.480 No, no, no.

00:56:28.260 That's way more latitude there.

00:56:30.940 Speaking of Afghanistan, I was Ben Shapiro tweeted today because the U.S.

00:56:36.320 just gave like Afghanistan like sixty four million dollars or something like that for

00:56:40.460 humanitarian aid.

00:56:41.860 And so he said something.

00:56:43.860 Oh, the 80s, like the other shoe just dropped.

00:56:46.760 And I was just like this is like the weird like thing between neocons and right.

00:56:53.080 Right.

00:56:54.420 He's OK with dropping bombs there.

00:56:56.480 But yeah, he's very well.

00:56:58.080 Yeah.

00:56:58.780 Well, yeah.

00:56:59.160 It's a humanitarian aid.

00:57:00.720 Well, it's a humanitarian aid.

00:57:01.940 But also like the sixty four minute we spent three hundred million dollars a day on Afghanistan.

00:57:07.440 So we spent about five hours of our time to give them money for humanitarian aid.

00:57:12.820 And that's what he's upset about is that we spent we gave them five hours, not the two

00:57:19.660 trillion over 20 years and wants to get back to it.

00:57:22.500 It's like it's just this weird thing between these people that want war so bad, but then

00:57:26.880 pick on whenever we do something else.

00:57:28.940 And they're like, that's not fiscally responsible.

00:57:32.260 Like the government is so.

00:57:33.360 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:34.520 Like the taxpayer is paying for this lavish seven million dollar.

00:57:38.760 Like this would be in the midst of like, again, and I'm sure the Jew using the Holocaust, 1.00

00:57:44.780 but like in the midst of a genocide being like, did you hear we're feeding them sometimes?

00:57:49.620 Like it's like like because because, you know, get get upset if you want that.

00:57:54.120 I'm making a comparison between one, you know, one cleansing of a people and another, even 1.00

00:58:00.680 if it's by a different way.

00:58:01.660 We're about to do that a little bit later.

00:58:05.060 Yeah, no, when with the the people in that are over there, you might as well be talking

00:58:10.320 about the Holocaust.

00:58:11.640 I mean, again, putting yourself in the perspective of someone again, you know, you want to talk

00:58:15.220 about empathizing, empathize with people who like are for the last 20 years.

00:58:20.360 So someone who's 20 years older or younger doesn't know of a time when there weren't just,

00:58:25.440 you know, bombs going off that were often being dropped or missiles being launched by the

00:58:30.940 U.S. and very routinely going after innocent people like this last drone strike, drone strike

00:58:36.660 where you have the U.S. military and the CIA and the State Department literally giving money

00:58:41.460 to ISK and the Haqqani network and then using the fact that they have that to justify their 0.83

00:58:47.220 drone strikes against families.

00:58:49.940 Right.

00:58:50.460 But the problem is that we gave them some soybeans and some cheese or, you know, some, you know,

00:58:55.360 some water or something.

00:58:56.460 Right.

00:58:56.780 That's that's the problem.

00:58:58.040 That's fiscally irresponsible.

00:58:59.280 It's it's it's it's such a it's such a weird thing that they do where it's just like we will

00:59:04.360 be the the war is justified because we're stopping terrorism.

00:59:08.540 It doesn't matter how much we spend on it.

00:59:10.580 That doesn't matter.

00:59:11.160 But then the humanitarian aid that we send them is bad because it's fiscally irresponsible

00:59:15.600 and they're our enemy or something like that.

00:59:17.920 It's like these people just like they don't want us here.

00:59:20.560 They don't. 0.97

00:59:21.000 And like we've been killing them for years to be here.

00:59:23.480 And blowback doesn't exist.

00:59:26.240 We've succeeded in a way in fighting terrorism because they hate us for our freedoms.

00:59:30.540 But we've removed like almost every single freedom.

00:59:33.140 So we're not going to have to worry about terror.

00:59:34.620 They don't hate us anymore.

00:59:35.740 Yeah.

00:59:36.620 Why do they hate us?

00:59:37.940 Because if it's literally just, you know, like women wearing tight jeans, I don't know 0.97

00:59:42.580 what to tell you guys.

00:59:43.200 Like we're not dropping that.

00:59:44.420 So but like actual freedom.

00:59:46.500 No, we haven't been free in a long time.

00:59:47.760 We weren't free before 9-11.

00:59:48.960 We certainly aren't free now.

00:59:49.900 And we become less free with each day that we don't like actively resist these things.

00:59:54.800 Well, see, Joe Biden was worried when we pulled out of Afghanistan that we were going to have

00:59:58.360 another 9-11.

00:59:59.400 So he's like, all right, these freedoms have got to go now.

01:00:03.280 I was basically going to say that.

01:00:04.840 I'm going to get ahead of this somewhere.

01:00:07.360 And say what you want about that strategy.

01:00:09.720 But, you know, our freedoms have remained in Afghanistan.

01:00:12.680 So they, you know, they didn't they didn't attack us.

01:00:15.020 They didn't attack us.

01:00:15.880 And maybe there's something to do.

01:00:16.680 They only have mandates for half the population.

01:00:19.100 I was going to say exactly that.

01:00:22.140 I was like, hey, man, the Taliban still allows men to not cover their face.

01:00:26.260 So they're they're freer there.

01:00:28.760 Yeah, they're a little bit more free.

01:00:30.740 Which, by the way, like I think you told us before that if we wanted to get your thing

01:00:35.580 about, you know, the vax mandates, everything on with COVID, just watch the system of the

01:00:39.760 downs, Dan Smott's video.

01:00:41.740 The system is down.

01:00:43.140 He gets pissed.

01:00:43.840 The system of the downs?

01:00:44.940 I don't know.

01:00:45.580 I intentionally called this podcast system of a down when I when I saw him at Porkfest.

01:00:51.120 He was like, stop it.

01:00:52.180 Everybody does.

01:00:53.920 Sorry, buddy.

01:00:55.380 We're going on the show on Wednesday, too, by the way.

01:00:58.120 Yeah, you are.

01:00:58.700 Yeah, I think a poll out on Twitter.

01:01:01.820 Would you rather live under the Taliban or the Australian government?

01:01:05.120 And it got like six thousand votes and the Taliban got 87 percent.

01:01:09.720 I was like, whoa, Australia.

01:01:12.100 Yeah, that's one of those terrible choices.

01:01:13.820 I don't I don't want to have to make.

01:01:17.040 I'm I would be the one that didn't take it because I wouldn't want to be.

01:01:20.280 I mean, let's let's be clear.

01:01:21.500 The Taliban is a is a is a brutal regime that is rounding up and killing dissidents.

01:01:26.220 And you're not allowed to say stuff and all of that.

01:01:28.540 But, you know, the fact that a country that we would consider part of the free world is

01:01:33.280 literally making people it's a it's a different type of tyranny, like, no, they're not going

01:01:37.000 to throw you from a building, but they are going to call you and you have to respond within

01:01:40.340 15 minutes or they call the police out to you to make sure that you're that you're staying

01:01:43.880 in your home.

01:01:44.780 Because, I mean, show of hands, folks, who here has been away from their phone for 15

01:01:49.100 minutes or had their battery die or like have it in another room or leave it on silent

01:01:54.800 or, you know, I don't know, take a shower or sleep for longer than 15 minutes, like all 0.99

01:01:59.940 the reasons that you would not be able to respond within 15 minutes and the damn police are being 0.99

01:02:04.120 called out every single time. 0.99

01:02:06.180 You know, every single thing that happens with with and Taliban's now a government. 0.97

01:02:11.000 I tweeted and some people got mad at me.

01:02:12.860 I said, listen, the reason, you know, you're going to notice that even after the Taliban 0.94

01:02:16.420 takes over the Afghan government, they're not going to refer to them as the Afghan government.

01:02:20.260 They're going to refer to them as the Taliban.

01:02:22.100 And the reason they're going to do that is because the Taliban is not a government.

01:02:24.780 They're a brutal group of warlords who are subjugating everyone around them and robbing

01:02:28.820 them to pay for completely different from a government.

01:02:31.860 So, you know, whether we're talking about it, we'll take over, man.

01:02:36.560 The warlords will take over. 0.67

01:02:38.060 That's why we need like, you know, the biggest military empire in human history, because otherwise

01:02:42.780 there'd be warlords and they'd have enforcers on the street with military

01:02:46.360 equipment telling us every single aspect of how we can live our lives.

01:02:49.240 And what a nightmare that would be.

01:02:50.380 They'll literally steal our money.

01:02:51.320 They'll literally steal your money from you.

01:02:53.120 You have to steal your money to pay for.

01:02:54.860 And they'll make you use a currency that they print out endless reams of to hand off to their

01:03:00.380 best friends and basically take your wealth out from under you and stick you with the bill

01:03:04.920 for the whole thing with interest.

01:03:06.080 And then they'll take your kids and they'll put them in education or indoctrination systems

01:03:11.340 where they kind of normalize them on the whole thing and disabuse them of that whole

01:03:14.500 golden rule, don't hurt people, don't take their stuff, do unto others as you want them

01:03:18.400 to do unto you.

01:03:19.160 Unless you've got a badge or you work in a big marble building and you write on sheets

01:03:23.120 of paper that it's okay and it's official, then it's okay.

01:03:26.560 I mean, that would be a total nightmare.

01:03:28.080 Can you imagine that?

01:03:28.920 God, thank God we have a government.

01:03:30.660 I think the best thing to come out of the Trump presidency is that picture when he's doing

01:03:34.480 the arms deals with the Saudis and they're all touching that globe like Saruman. 0.99

01:03:38.460 I mean, the mask is completely off on the whole warlord description.

01:03:45.000 It's just like, okay, this is what we've got.

01:03:48.220 Yeah, no, it was, that was some serious Lord of the Rings energy.

01:03:51.160 I actually made a meme.

01:03:52.720 So, um, so with, uh, when, um, when there was Trump shortly after that, a couple of weeks

01:03:58.900 later, he was in Israel at the wailing wall and he was doing the tradition of putting,

01:04:02.960 taking a prayer and writing it down and rolling it up and putting it in the crack.

01:04:06.200 And so I made a meme where like, he's putting it in the crack and it shows what it says.

01:04:10.060 And it says, I want the orb for myself.

01:04:12.320 And, uh, that's, uh, yeah, that's no, that was, that was insane.

01:04:16.260 That was crazy.

01:04:16.940 And, and if you look at the, the, going back to the video, like, first of all, Dan small,

01:04:22.540 I mean, or smarts or whatever he wants to be called Dan of the, of the, of the, of the

01:04:29.620 Nickelback podcast.

01:04:30.740 Uh, he's, uh, he is in like, I've, I told him, I said, this is the best ad I've seen

01:04:38.240 since the last one you made.

01:04:40.440 Like you're, you're, he's, he's on a different level.

01:04:43.220 I literally was like, you know, he's like, wow, I was good appearance on Kennedy.

01:04:46.440 And I'm like, Hey, thanks.

01:04:48.180 And he's like, yeah, I was going to make something.

01:04:49.720 I'm like, yeah, if you want to take it and like, put some like, you know, somber music

01:04:52.940 behind it or whatever, that'd be cool.

01:04:54.100 And he makes that like, like he took a fricking Kennedy clip and like five seconds of Dave

01:05:00.140 Smith and two seconds of Ron Paul and two seconds of, uh, Eric July and a couple of

01:05:04.960 Tom, Josh Smith from Josh Smith.

01:05:07.520 Yeah.

01:05:07.880 Like four, four, three, four seconds of Josh.

01:05:09.840 And he makes that fricking three minute long masterpiece. 0.74

01:05:13.000 Man.

01:05:13.260 He is amazing. 0.99

01:05:14.320 Holy crap. 0.98

01:05:15.000 The war ad from 2020. 0.97

01:05:17.880 Like the answer.

01:05:18.900 Oh my God.

01:05:19.640 War is over when you want it.

01:05:21.160 Uh, that was his first ad I've seen, I'd seen.

01:05:24.740 And I was just like, wow, that's he, he, I still have people.

01:05:28.900 He did one about ending, like dealing with police brutality and we put it out in record

01:05:33.560 time.

01:05:33.980 It was like a week after a week to a week and a half after the George Floyd killing.

01:05:40.300 And we had this video and, um, I'll go ahead and say at the top of the ticket, the, the,

01:05:46.000 the Jorgensen Cohen team didn't really know what to make of it.

01:05:48.800 When I say the Jorgensen Cohen team, I mean that the campaign heads didn't really know

01:05:52.780 what to make of it.

01:05:53.360 Cause they're like, man, this is really intense.

01:05:55.160 Is this going to be cool?

01:05:56.600 And everyone loved it.

01:05:58.300 Like even people that weren't into, you know, woke stuff.

01:06:01.020 Cause we mentioned like systemic racism or whatever. 0.99

01:06:03.080 Everyone was like, holy crap. 0.92

01:06:04.540 That video was good. 0.99

01:06:05.520 Like it was just cause it said, okay, you don't like racism.

01:06:08.880 Okay.

01:06:09.240 Just disempower.

01:06:10.400 Like you don't like, you know, cops, you know, running roughshod over you.

01:06:13.480 Okay, great.

01:06:13.940 Here are the policies that allow it to happen.

01:06:15.480 We're going to get rid of all of them.

01:06:16.440 And now they can't do it anymore.

01:06:17.340 Now what like, so it, it just completely disarmed the whole thing.

01:06:20.620 And was like, this is how, this is how you actually fix it.

01:06:23.280 Instead of just saying cops are bad, cops are racist.

01:06:25.820 The government's bad.

01:06:26.740 They shouldn't do like, okay, great.

01:06:27.940 And qualified immunity and no knock raids and civil asset forfeiture and the militarization

01:06:31.700 of the police and the war on drugs and these things. 0.99

01:06:33.300 And all of it goes away and they could still be assholes and it doesn't matter. 0.99

01:06:36.120 Right. 0.99

01:06:36.360 So anyway, no, Dan is the best in the game.

01:06:39.340 Tom Lobs has got a George Floyd related super chat right here.

01:06:43.160 They'll print trillions without issue, but don't forge a 20 or they'll kneel on your neck.

01:06:46.780 For nine minutes.

01:06:48.380 Yep.

01:06:48.660 I said, I actually, I tweeted that.

01:06:50.560 And that was another one that people were like, but I said, I wasn't around yet to like,

01:06:55.720 you know, draw the heat away.

01:06:57.300 Like now I feel like, oh man, I could imagine Reed's anger of one of that translation. 0.99

01:07:06.680 You can tell us the anger translator of, I put out and I said, you know, George Floyd,

01:07:11.260 the, the, the justification that was given for why the police were called out was that

01:07:15.940 George Floyd allegedly.

01:07:17.040 And I said allegedly, and I said allegedly, cause I don't know George Floyd allegedly used

01:07:20.340 a $20, a fake $20 bill.

01:07:23.320 In other words, he does, he did at a $20 level, what the federal reserve does at tens of millions

01:07:30.960 of dollars a second.

01:07:33.240 Yeah.

01:07:34.140 Yeah.

01:07:34.420 All fiat is a counterfeit man. 0.66

01:07:36.860 Yes.

01:07:37.620 Especially over, over the, over the last couple of years where they've literally printed more

01:07:42.640 than they can actually literally print physically.

01:07:44.900 Oh, they're not even printing anymore.

01:07:46.660 Yeah.

01:07:46.840 Yeah.

01:07:47.080 So it's just adding zeros to a number on a computer and being like enter.

01:07:52.360 And now there's that much more.

01:07:53.840 Yeah.

01:07:55.180 They're just big money boys typing on the keyboard.

01:07:58.320 Yeah.

01:07:58.460 And then giving it to all of their friends and big corporations and then calling it a free

01:08:03.860 market.

01:08:04.220 And then, then, then, then sticking us with the bill, but also now leaning on them, the same

01:08:10.620 people they just gave the money to, to say, Hey, how about you, you, you, you,

01:08:14.900 you use the tyranny.

01:08:15.940 You make mass, the mass mandates, the backs mandates, these, you lay off your workers so

01:08:20.780 that we're not looking at the bad guys.

01:08:22.300 Y'all do.

01:08:23.120 You do it all because we just paid you trillions of dollars.

01:08:26.420 I mean, it's, it's just all interconnected and it's hard.

01:08:30.320 And there's a word for that arrangement and it's called fascism.

01:08:33.540 Actually.

01:08:33.940 Well, it's, it's actually called corporatism, which as Benito Mussolini and every other fascist

01:08:39.620 thinker, if you want to call them that everyone who, who developed fascism as an ideology

01:08:43.860 said economic, the, the merger of the state and corporations, big government and big business

01:08:50.740 is corporatism, which is the economic function of fascism.

01:08:55.380 Now couple that with the Imperial foreign policy that is often associated with not always,

01:09:02.380 but usually associated with fascism and the jingoism that's associated with fascism and the

01:09:09.020 massive rounding up and, and imprisoning or killing of people largely in the lower social

01:09:15.400 and economic strata, poor people, people of color, the marginalized and the infirm and

01:09:19.380 all of that, the homeless immigrants, all of that, literally every single hallmark of 1.00

01:09:24.320 fascism exists in the U S but we're not allowed to say it because that is, it's kind of harsh.

01:09:29.720 Like it's harsh to say fascism.

01:09:32.340 So like, that's an example of a hill I'll die on.

01:09:34.300 I'm saying we don't have a free market.

01:09:36.380 We certainly don't have socialism or anything like that.

01:09:38.540 What we have, cause it's like, you know, the, the Democrats going, well, this is what free

01:09:42.320 market capitalism looks like.

01:09:43.580 And then Republicans going, well, no, this is what socialism.

01:09:45.900 No, this is what fascism looks like.

01:09:47.940 And you're both right. 1.00

01:09:48.660 It sucks. 0.98

01:09:50.400 Yeah. 0.98

01:09:51.400 And so I'm writing a tweet cause I'm visual with these things.

01:09:54.160 I'm going to do the anger translated version of I'll have it done by the end of the video

01:09:59.980 and then I'll, which means this is going to get blamed on me that you made this disavow

01:10:06.460 me right now.

01:10:07.040 Spike, just disavow is the worst thing that has happened since January 6th.

01:10:14.020 And by the way, keep in mind, I am making a major flip-flop here because I'm the one

01:10:20.360 who said that Jesus saved Reed Coverdale for, you know, for his continued efforts when

01:10:27.200 you, when you almost died, when you were, when you were almost killed by the, the, the 0.96

01:10:30.800 truck headed to Freedom Fest.

01:10:32.860 And now I'm saying, no, I don't know who it was that saved you, but it might've been the

01:10:36.580 dark Lord because I'm saying it was Jesus.

01:10:39.520 Like there is no way it was anyone other than Jesus.

01:10:42.520 Like I thought I was dead and then I saw him in the seat next to me and that's why I wasn't

01:10:46.740 wearing my seatbelt because he pulled me into the passenger seat as I got hit.

01:10:51.540 That's what happens.

01:10:52.160 I don't care what you say.

01:10:53.740 You're not going to convince me.

01:10:55.260 Well, I mean, I showed you the picture of Jesus, like protecting you.

01:10:59.200 I know.

01:11:00.400 I did that.

01:11:01.480 Now I, now I get what this is.

01:11:02.860 And I held on.

01:11:05.000 I made that meme like three weeks prior and I held onto it for that special moment when

01:11:11.660 I could do it.

01:11:12.640 So there's a level like, you know, I definitely love game here.

01:11:16.360 I'm very much, it was a very, very low time preference.

01:11:18.860 I was ready.

01:11:19.920 I was ready.

01:11:20.800 And I was waiting for that special, perfect moment to go.

01:11:24.560 That's why Jesus saved you.

01:11:26.760 Well, that guy, whoever he is, he wanted us to debate Jesus.

01:11:30.380 So there you go, man.

01:11:31.260 We just debated Jesus.

01:11:33.600 I hope you're satisfied.

01:11:35.660 Oh, that's what I thought this was.

01:11:38.640 That's where I thought it was going to, but it's kind of a fix.

01:11:41.060 We were like mixing it with a meme he made, which he did.

01:11:43.880 Yes.

01:11:44.280 He made that while we were at Freedom Fest.

01:11:46.800 He texted it to me when I was in the hotel with Clint, maybe in the same bed, maybe not.

01:11:51.920 I'm going to leave that email out.

01:11:53.160 I don't know.

01:11:53.740 That's between you and Jesus.

01:11:55.540 It's between you and Jesus. 0.80

01:11:56.280 And he can save you.

01:11:57.240 Holy Jesus, Saul.

01:11:58.240 So, yeah, no, it's someone I want.

01:12:01.940 I put out a thing and I was like, you know, who would you like to see me to debate and on what?

01:12:07.240 And we didn't like all the people that got tagged.

01:12:09.860 No one actually wanted to debate me.

01:12:11.300 The closest I got was on Facebook.

01:12:13.180 Someone said debate.

01:12:14.740 Oh, what's that guy's name?

01:12:16.740 I'm looking at his face.

01:12:18.360 Well-known anarchist.

01:12:20.580 Michael Malice.

01:12:21.860 No.

01:12:22.840 No, no, no.

01:12:23.660 No.

01:12:24.560 Oh, gosh.

01:12:25.340 Harry Rothbard.

01:12:27.340 Fat Dave Smith.

01:12:29.220 Yes.

01:12:30.060 And now, finally.

01:12:31.400 No, it's a guy.

01:12:32.120 He's a redhead guy.

01:12:33.820 He's not all that old.

01:12:35.020 And his name is frig.

01:12:36.780 Like, anyway, he, and so they tagged him and they were like, yeah, whatever, the redhead 0.76

01:12:42.320 anarchist.

01:12:42.820 And they said, you know, debate him on the existence of the state, whether it should exist.

01:12:47.180 And I'm like, I mean, sure, but I don't think it should.

01:12:49.580 And he's like, oh, yeah, me either. 1.00

01:12:51.020 But I also think party politics is stupid. 1.00

01:12:53.420 We could debate that. 1.00

01:12:54.200 I'm like, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of party politics.

01:12:56.060 I just think it's a good way to bring people in and we might win some local elections and

01:12:59.640 who knows, it might actually work one day.

01:13:01.000 And he's like, all right, well, that was a good debate.

01:13:02.800 So I was like the closest that we got to a debate.

01:13:05.280 But someone wanted, and I forget who, wanted me and Reed to debate Jesus.

01:13:09.860 And I don't know what that means.

01:13:12.020 Reed is an atheist and I am a non-religious Jew.

01:13:16.000 You're sure that we're talking about just a guy named Jesus, maybe?

01:13:19.880 No.

01:13:21.320 That could be.

01:13:22.120 No.

01:13:23.060 I should have said Jesus who because it was probably like a person.

01:13:27.320 Like, Jesus who?

01:13:30.440 It's a guy named Jesus.

01:13:32.740 With you.

01:13:33.260 I don't know what you're going to do if you're just going to sit there and be like, good

01:13:37.000 job, Reed.

01:13:37.560 Keep debating.

01:13:38.060 I don't know what your role is, but he says, I don't know.

01:13:40.500 He says, with Spike Cohen.

01:13:42.300 By the way, we just had a couple of big super chats come in with a bunch of questions for

01:13:47.000 Spike. 0.95

01:13:47.360 So I just want to hit some real quick ones.

01:13:49.440 What does Spike think about IP laws?

01:13:51.120 I know that's a super long of a continue.

01:13:53.480 So in order for something to truly be property, it has to be scarce and not replicable without

01:13:59.600 having to use other product or material.

01:14:03.340 If I tell you something, the logical conclusion of IP is me saying the thing about George Floyd

01:14:11.980 and the $20 bill, assuming that no one else said that before, retweeting it, me saying,

01:14:17.000 you owe me money for that.

01:14:18.340 If that ever, you owe me for that.

01:14:20.760 You have to pay me a license because I came up with that first.

01:14:23.560 It's my intellectual property and I have proof that it's my intellectual property because 0.79

01:14:27.560 this is being recorded and people go, well, that's ridiculous.

01:14:30.340 Okay, now do songs.

01:14:33.120 Yeah.

01:14:33.540 Do anything.

01:14:34.820 Yes, there's more work that's done in those things, but the actual idea or thing, if it

01:14:40.580 is so easily replicable that you can literally just take it and put it out there and anyone

01:14:48.440 can download it and the absurdity and even trying to enforce these things demonstrates

01:14:52.740 and drives home just how ridiculous IP laws are.

01:14:56.340 And then logical conclusion of IP laws is what we have.

01:14:59.500 These major corporations that have these gigantic legal wings that do nothing.

01:15:04.500 They have two groups.

01:15:05.320 They have this patenting group.

01:15:06.880 All they do is just make up vague ideas and then they get patented by attorneys.

01:15:11.380 Patent trolls.

01:15:11.860 They just sit and they push it through, push it through.

01:15:13.700 Patents that none of us would ever be able to get, but they have good attorneys who can do

01:15:17.080 it and then if you make something that's shaped in a certain roundness, then they're coming

01:15:22.320 after you because they have a total database on it and you either have to license it and

01:15:26.060 hand it over to them or they just destroy you.

01:15:28.920 Meanwhile, you have Amazon who's literally copying products that are made by companies

01:15:33.100 that are selling stuff in their store.

01:15:35.740 They call it Amazon Basics and then they kick that seller off because they know they can.

01:15:39.980 They have the juice to be able to stop anything from happening to them.

01:15:44.520 That's what IP looks like.

01:15:46.040 The next question becomes, how do you enforce the fact that if, for example, before IP laws,

01:15:54.980 when J.R.R.

01:15:56.080 Tolkien wrote the Lord of the Rings trilogy, that was before modern IP laws and he largely

01:16:01.900 wasn't really protected.

01:16:03.520 And before that, you think of Shakespeare, you think of all these different people.

01:16:06.480 What protects people and incentivizes them for them to make something profit off of it and

01:16:12.480 not feel like it's going to get robbed?

01:16:14.400 Well, the fact that they keep putting it out there.

01:16:17.440 Look at music artists now.

01:16:18.760 They make their money from tours.

01:16:20.400 They make their money from cameos.

01:16:22.280 They make their literal cameo videos.

01:16:24.720 They make their money from all this other stuff, from putting their sponsoring, having

01:16:32.220 sponsors and putting their name, being influencers and saying, oh, I drink this type of tequila

01:16:36.760 or I drive this kind of car.

01:16:38.500 I wear these kind of shoes or whatever.

01:16:40.840 That's what comes from it.

01:16:42.780 The music is just what brings them in.

01:16:44.500 That's their advertising.

01:16:45.840 And if we can shift to that and stop trying to weaponize ideas against someone who might

01:16:52.020 say, yeah, you know what?

01:16:52.800 I could take that thing and I could do this and do that and make it even better.

01:16:55.940 You're actually stifling creativity and you're actually incentivizing the gigantic mega corporations

01:17:03.260 owning all the ideas.

01:17:05.260 And God knows that's not going to end poorly, right?

01:17:07.880 Yeah.

01:17:08.540 Yeah.

01:17:08.780 It is just cronyism.

01:17:10.160 Yeah. 1.00

01:17:10.760 IP fake and gay. 0.99

01:17:11.980 By the way, so then the next one is, this is another basically just general open-ended 0.95

01:17:18.220 question that can go anywhere.

01:17:19.760 Can we survive this?

01:17:21.540 This show?

01:17:22.280 I don't know.

01:17:23.340 I don't know.

01:17:23.860 Cancer culture, thank you, sir.

01:17:25.900 I don't know.

01:17:26.120 I don't know if we can survive this show.

01:17:28.060 Can we survive the things that are, if the question is, can we survive the things that

01:17:31.040 are happening?

01:17:31.460 Yeah.

01:17:31.660 I mean, yeah, we can.

01:17:34.560 Keep in mind that in many ways, it's weird because in some ways we are less free

01:17:41.520 in aggregate than the average American has ever been.

01:17:45.200 Obviously, we're more free than like a chattel slave that was on a plantation and being whipped

01:17:48.900 and whatever.

01:17:49.440 But like in aggregate, the average American in many ways is less free for no other reason

01:17:54.400 than government just has all these abilities to restrict stuff that they never could have

01:17:58.200 before, right?

01:17:59.340 In another way, though, we're in some ways more free than we've been before, certainly

01:18:04.720 among the freest we've ever been.

01:18:06.220 So it's like a best of times, worst of times thing where thanks to innovations from whatever

01:18:11.600 level of freedom is allowed in the market, we are able to spread ideas.

01:18:16.300 I mean, we are right now live streaming for anyone who can watch with an internet connection

01:18:20.860 in full HD from our relative nuisance fee internet connections costs with equipment that

01:18:29.120 we spent a few hundred bucks.

01:18:30.600 I spent a couple grand on because I do this professionally at this point.

01:18:33.960 I want to talk about how much I didn't spend, by the way, I've spent, I bought this, so

01:18:37.820 whatever that costs.

01:18:38.920 There you go.

01:18:39.460 Yeah.

01:18:39.600 Like, what was that?

01:18:40.260 Like 80 bucks.

01:18:41.100 But like, like even 10 years ago, this would not have been possible.

01:18:45.180 30 years ago, if you had said this, people would have been like, yeah, by the time we

01:18:48.300 have flying cars and we're up at the moon, maybe, but like, this is how far along we

01:18:52.620 are.

01:18:52.820 And by the way, every time information gets easier to access, there's a revolution.

01:18:56.460 The, uh, the peasant revolts and the Magna Carta started with the printing press. 0.96

01:19:03.340 Now people could actually read stuff for themselves and they go, wait a damn second.

01:19:08.540 And they, and they, and so they start fighting back, right? 0.90

01:19:11.400 They're no longer just going by what the, what the, the priests and the aristocracy are

01:19:15.340 telling them.

01:19:15.860 Now they're actually reading it for themselves.

01:19:17.680 And you can see this with thing after thing, when the radio was introduced, when television

01:19:21.040 was introduced, when talking motion pictures were introduced, there were these different

01:19:25.100 things that happened.

01:19:25.860 Oh, when photographs were first introduced, you know, one of the main things that changed

01:19:29.620 people's minds about chattel slavery was that instead of seeing these drawn images of happy

01:19:34.460 slaves going around and work in the field and saying, oh gosh, I'm so glad I'm doing this.

01:19:38.300 There were photos of what it was actually like.

01:19:41.400 And even the sanitized versions looked like they looked terrible.

01:19:45.200 And the actual photos of guys with their entire back just mutilated with, uh, with whiplashes

01:19:50.900 was like whip marks and scars was like, oh, so that's actually what, so.

01:19:55.100 Like literally every time there's been any kind of major cultural or social change or

01:19:59.400 revolution, it started with more access to freedom.

01:20:02.380 Cuba, what was happening in Cuba?

01:20:03.800 They had access to social media for the first time and they got to see both what other people

01:20:07.940 were living like in Cuba.

01:20:08.880 And more importantly, what other people were living like in the States, in Canada, in the

01:20:12.600 UK, in other places where they were told it was a mess and it was a nightmare.

01:20:16.060 Your life in Cuba is a thousand times better. 1.00

01:20:18.180 And they're looking at it and going, I can look at their flooring and tell that they're doing

01:20:23.340 better.

01:20:23.680 Like I can look at their car.

01:20:24.880 Like it's easy to see that they're doing better access to information.

01:20:28.900 So can we survive this?

01:20:30.200 Yes.

01:20:30.500 We just have to embrace the fact that, uh, you don't comply your way out of tyranny and

01:20:36.040 you have to decide as an individual what, because I, it's easy for me to go, yeah, just refuse

01:20:42.140 to get vaccinated and lose your job.

01:20:43.620 Like I'm retired.

01:20:44.360 I can say that.

01:20:45.060 But yeah, you have to decide as an individual taking human action, what you are, the level

01:20:51.400 of skin in the game that you're willing to put in refusing to comply.

01:20:54.480 And if you're not willing to refuse to comply, at least advocating and supporting others who

01:20:59.040 are doing so, you know, when we do that, um, then, you know, it's, it, I said in the,

01:21:04.720 in the video and I said on Kennedy and I'll say it now when, uh, even three to 5% of the

01:21:09.340 population's like, no, I'm not doing that.

01:21:11.220 I'm not doing that.

01:21:12.040 And you'll have to make me do that.

01:21:13.480 It is functionally impossible for less than one, but you're taking the shirt back off.

01:21:19.780 By the way, Joe Ray is married too.

01:21:22.200 So he's breaking the rule here.

01:21:23.400 He's breaking the rule.

01:21:24.220 Why is Spike wearing a shirt, uh, from Libertarian podcast review?

01:21:27.960 That's why, because he wants to remain married.

01:21:31.720 Here you go, guys.

01:21:32.580 I've got, uh, well, yeah, I did the nipple gate thing. 0.94

01:21:35.320 We have to get Spike's seal of approval on this.

01:21:37.180 So this is the, uh, anger translated version of George Floyd's tweet.

01:21:41.960 So George Floyd died because he forged a $20 bill, but we caused the death of over 2 0.90

01:21:47.620 million Middle Easterners for Israel and Saudi Arabia.

01:21:50.200 So the federal reserve could forge trillions while maintaining the world reserve currency

01:21:54.260 and keeping interest rates artificially low.

01:21:57.420 If you, the only, I have no problem with it.

01:22:00.140 The only thing I ask is that you add allegedly, cause they never actually proved that it was

01:22:03.480 a forged $20 bill.

01:22:04.820 And I just want to drive home that like, we don't even know if he actually did it.

01:22:07.580 I only have two characters left though.

01:22:09.460 I hate that.

01:22:10.940 Just put AL.

01:22:12.340 Take out Saudi Arabia. 0.99

01:22:13.580 You know what you can do?

01:22:14.840 Just take out Saudi Arabia. 1.00

01:22:17.720 Just put SA.

01:22:20.020 So you know what you do?

01:22:21.180 Tweet that.

01:22:22.180 And then under that, like sub, like sub tweet or whatever it's going to, just put allegedly,

01:22:26.180 like George allegedly did that or whatever.

01:22:28.320 No, I, you're a hundred percent correct.

01:22:29.920 That is, that is good.

01:22:31.380 That was great.

01:22:31.700 Spike, what's worse, disavowed, Spike, what's worse, disavowed, Reed Coverdale, January 6th

01:22:37.200 or ivermectin?

01:22:40.160 Listen, so as someone who ran with as briefly as Vermin Supreme's proposed running me, I

01:22:47.320 think it's important to know in a pony society, how important it is that they be wormless.

01:22:52.520 And so I think we're talking about the potential for ivermectin to, uh, to stop COVID.

01:22:59.520 I have no idea if it stops COVID.

01:23:01.020 I know the fact, I, you know, the fact that keep calling it horse dewormer when the fact

01:23:04.640 is there are multiple applications for antiparasitics, uh, again, not antiviral, but antiparasitics

01:23:10.220 that ivermectin use.

01:23:11.220 I'm making this way more serious than you thought it would be.

01:23:13.400 But the, the, uh, the fact that ivermectin, uh, does work for humans and is prescribed

01:23:19.600 to humans.

01:23:19.980 The reason people are moving to horse pace is because they're restricting access to ivermectin.

01:23:24.000 But the problem there is now you are creating wormy ponies and you know, you, that now falls

01:23:31.220 on you.

01:23:32.000 And I, that's a bigger problem that's going to manifest itself in the future.

01:23:36.380 So no, Reed Coverdale is easily the worst of all of that.

01:23:40.160 I do want to say real quick, not to go too deep into big brain time. 0.99

01:23:42.800 I don't know if I've said in this show and others, my wife's been in the fucking veterinary 0.98

01:23:46.060 field for over like 10 years. 0.99

01:23:47.580 And so I've seen all the medications she has and shit like that. 0.99

01:23:50.020 We actually, we're breeders as well. 0.98

01:23:52.220 So we're very familiar.

01:23:53.380 The Venn diagram of human meds and animal meds is damn near a circle.

01:23:57.860 Like, Oh yeah.

01:23:58.580 It's like, so, and it's ironic.

01:24:00.660 Like one of these things where it's when this started, the FDA literally put out a tweet 0.99

01:24:05.120 saying, making that horse dewormer fucking nonsense. 0.99

01:24:09.040 And for a, an organization like that to drop that is insane. 0.99

01:24:13.760 Like, like anyone with a rudimentary, rudimentary understanding of veterinary medicine knows that

01:24:19.280 like, for one, there's not as much money in veterinary medicine.

01:24:21.760 So they don't normally make specific medications for animals.

01:24:24.500 They usually try to repurpose human, human medicine.

01:24:27.200 Of course.

01:24:27.820 They're not going to spend that money on.

01:24:29.100 Yeah.

01:24:29.200 That they already tested on animals probably.

01:24:31.780 It's the same thing.

01:24:33.180 Yeah.

01:24:33.520 Yeah.

01:24:33.940 So it's like, Oh wow.

01:24:34.920 You know, this actually works on animals too, because they're testing it on it.

01:24:38.140 But they did this with hydroxychloroquine.

01:24:40.520 And again, I have no idea if hydroxychloroquine works with COVID or not.

01:24:43.560 I'm not claiming that, but, but then they were, they were like, yeah, this is used to clean your

01:24:48.320 fish tank.

01:24:49.140 It's like, okay, yeah, no chloroquine is in a powder form.

01:24:53.460 Hydroxychloroquine is literally a drug for humans, for everything from malaria to lupus,

01:24:57.960 to a bunch of inflammatory disorders.

01:24:59.440 And the theory is that it reduces inflammation.

01:25:01.840 It stops that immune reaction that causes all that, all the problems that happen as a result of

01:25:07.760 COVID and their theory, again, don't know if it's true or not, but the point is the fact

01:25:11.780 that they go to that, instead of just saying, listen, we don't know if this works or not.

01:25:15.120 So don't take a drug that has side effects that, you know, might possibly, you know, cause

01:25:20.340 problems.

01:25:21.260 Instead, they go, it's horse dewormer, or it's like, they're, they're like stigmatizing the

01:25:25.880 drug.

01:25:26.360 And now there are people who are legitimately taking it for like a parasite issue or whatever,

01:25:30.500 the, oh, horse dewormer.

01:25:31.660 It's like, no, I'm keeping dewormer too.

01:25:33.380 Like that's, that's a problem.

01:25:35.560 Have we done the bit yet?

01:25:37.680 Have we done the bit?

01:25:38.200 I want to get through some of these super chats.

01:25:41.840 Cause there are a little, so, uh, which one can answer these real quick.

01:25:45.420 Uh, would spike rather fight an Ashley shade size toad or five toad size Ashley?

01:25:51.020 Now I will say, uh, Ashley shade.

01:25:52.960 Uh, if you don't know, she's the chair of the, uh, LP Massachusetts.

01:25:57.640 And I think right now she's, she's trying my state.

01:26:00.720 Yeah.

01:26:00.840 She's trying to push something through right now.

01:26:02.480 Apparently according to Justin O'Donnell.

01:26:04.480 Skip it, skip it, skip it, skip it, skip it, skip it.

01:26:08.220 Skip the question.

01:26:09.340 All right.

01:26:10.020 Yes.

01:26:10.320 And then he also said, they call me cracker, the waffle house.

01:26:15.080 And I liked that.

01:26:15.980 So, yeah, I saw that.

01:26:16.740 So I'll just say that.

01:26:17.700 I mean, I want to, that's a legitimate question.

01:26:19.340 I want to answer it.

01:26:20.000 So I, Ashley is a, is a, is a friend of mine.

01:26:23.160 Ashley is also, Ashley is a friend of mine.

01:26:25.840 Ashley is also possibly one of the strongest people I've ever met.

01:26:29.700 Um, people over her head like this.

01:26:32.260 And so I don't want to fight an Ashley shade, Ashley shade, much less an Ashley shade

01:26:37.120 sized anything else.

01:26:38.200 So anything yet toad size.

01:26:40.380 I mean, that's like when people ask me the, uh, uh, uh, I, I'm, I'm almost positive that

01:26:46.180 Ashley shape would, it would definitely beat me up. 1.00

01:26:48.500 And so I'm, I'm not going, so now, uh, so like I used to, I, I got asked routinely last

01:26:54.700 year, would you fight a horse?

01:26:56.240 Would you rather fight a horse size duck or 50 duck size horse?

01:26:59.620 And I'm like, a horse is only dangerous because of its size. 0.99

01:27:03.760 A duck hates you and wants to kill you like ducks, like routinely violently rape each other. 0.99

01:27:10.120 Ducks are terrible. 0.99

01:27:11.380 The one good thing about a duck is it's small enough.

01:27:13.440 They can kick it if it comes near you. 0.78

01:27:14.940 But you know, so a horse size duck is this docile kind thing that is also small. 0.90

01:27:20.540 A duck size horse horse will kill everyone in your community.

01:27:23.600 It'll destroy everything.

01:27:24.920 It can probably fly.

01:27:26.520 Like it's going to come from nowhere.

01:27:28.380 You won't even know what's coming.

01:27:29.340 And it's going to massacre you.

01:27:30.740 Like it's not, it's like Godzilla duck.

01:27:32.940 Like, no, it's obvious.

01:27:34.960 Yeah.

01:27:35.400 Yeah.

01:27:35.880 Toad size. 1.00

01:27:36.760 Ducks are rapists. 1.00

01:27:37.840 Apparently they're rapists. 1.00

01:27:40.160 They actually are rapists. 1.00

01:27:42.160 No, ducks are rapists. 1.00

01:27:43.700 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:44.420 That's a whole like rabbit hole.

01:27:46.260 Mike, I don't know. 1.00

01:27:48.000 They're the ones with the corkscrew dick too, aren't they? 1.00

01:27:50.140 Oh gosh. 1.00

01:27:51.820 I know.

01:27:52.740 I know.

01:27:54.120 Years, years of, of, of, of, of the female ducks changing.

01:27:59.200 Their anatomy through evolution over time to try to fight off being, it's a whole, you

01:28:05.240 want to spend an hour going, wow, nature is insane.

01:28:08.700 Go find out about like duck procreation. 0.96

01:28:11.960 This is, this is Spike Cohen's metallic, the magnetic thing that Josh did for an hour.

01:28:19.040 Like that's what, this is Spike's version of that.

01:28:23.480 Okay.

01:28:24.000 So we get to our bit, our, our game of the week that we have.

01:28:26.820 Yeah, this was actually, I forget who suggested it.

01:28:29.620 Somebody suggested it.

01:28:30.420 I think Ryan Dawson did suggest this, maybe.

01:28:32.960 Somebody, somebody in the comments.

01:28:34.560 No, we dyed it down a little bit.

01:28:36.240 Okay.

01:28:36.720 Yeah.

01:28:36.920 We did.

01:28:37.660 We had, we had a, we had a name for it and then we're like, we're not going to do that

01:28:41.960 name. 0.96

01:28:42.260 So Spike, thank you because we're, we're actually, we're the shit posters that now are not going 0.89

01:28:47.360 to double down on something bad. 0.93

01:28:48.640 That are just backing off slightly, just backing off a little.

01:28:51.960 Yeah.

01:28:52.440 We can't spend your virgin years. 0.52

01:28:54.960 So we, we were, we were talking about ethnic cleansing earlier and that's what this game

01:28:59.340 has to do with.

01:29:01.220 I love, I love, I love that preface.

01:29:03.400 We were talking about ethnic cleansing earlier.

01:29:05.460 Remember when we were talking about ethnic cleansing?

01:29:07.680 Okay.

01:29:08.420 So the, the name of the game is, we were not talking about ethnic cleansing earlier.

01:29:11.940 I don't know why.

01:29:12.740 No, we were.

01:29:13.760 No, when Jose were gone.

01:29:15.200 Oh, you guys, oh, you guys were.

01:29:16.520 Okay.

01:29:16.740 We were literally talking about it.

01:29:18.240 I thought, I thought he meant that the, the idea for the premise of the bit was us just

01:29:21.880 in our group chat talking about the cleansing.

01:29:23.680 I was like, we were not doing that.

01:29:24.920 No, no, no, no, we, no, we were, we were talking about it.

01:29:27.080 Okay, good, good.

01:29:27.520 We're not fans of Italians. 1.00

01:29:31.560 I'm the, I'm the, I'm the Italian now on the, uh, on the podcast.

01:29:35.980 So. 0.99

01:29:37.320 Shut up, Toad. 1.00

01:29:38.000 Just get to it. 0.99

01:29:38.880 So the name of the game, we're, we're calling it, uh, Zion or Zyklon. 0.98

01:29:44.220 Has anyone talked about Toad getting that fucking mold checked out? 0.98

01:29:47.060 I'm concerned for you, buddy. 0.99

01:29:48.660 I, I, I don't either.

01:29:50.080 I, I routinely go to the dermatologist.

01:29:51.680 Which one, by the way?

01:29:53.160 I routinely go to the dermatologist and they, uh, comment on my skin in very positive ways.

01:29:59.520 All right.

01:29:59.820 We're no longer interested.

01:30:00.720 Move on.

01:30:04.120 Thank you for answering that in the most homoerotic way positive. 0.87

01:30:07.160 And they're, they're always dudes.

01:30:09.380 Yes.

01:30:10.460 All right.

01:30:11.060 So, so basically the premise of the game is Zion or Zyklon is, were these, was it statements

01:30:17.940 made?

01:30:18.960 They're statements made.

01:30:20.140 These are quotes.

01:30:21.300 Uh, they're either spoken or written.

01:30:23.540 I think they might all be spoken.

01:30:25.740 I don't know if any are written.

01:30:27.120 They're.

01:30:27.340 It doesn't matter.

01:30:27.900 But anyways, go on.

01:30:28.860 It's either.

01:30:29.660 You're going to read them.

01:30:30.440 Yeah.

01:30:30.640 I'm going to read them.

01:30:31.300 I'm, I have like eight of them.

01:30:32.780 I think they're either a Nazi talking about the Jews or an Israeli talking about the Palestinians. 0.60

01:30:39.220 And you have to guess which.

01:30:42.000 Yeah.

01:30:42.520 So here I'm going to go ahead and we can go and I'm going to go ahead and skip this because

01:30:46.980 I, I don't, I don't like the premise behind it, but I will say this is that there are very,

01:30:53.120 when you hear many people that are defending things that are being done by the Israeli government,

01:30:58.880 when you hear people that are doing things that are defending that are things being done

01:31:02.680 by the U S and Saudi government and Al Qaeda in Yemen, when you hear about these different

01:31:07.180 things, it is, I get the point of the game and that's why we don't even need to do it is that

01:31:12.780 the entire purpose of it is that it is almost indistinguishable at times from how Nazis would 0.59

01:31:20.820 talk about justifying what they were doing to Jews, not to mention, by the way, we talk 0.96

01:31:24.560 about the 5.8 million Jews, whatever it is, the, the, the five to 6 million Jews that were

01:31:28.920 killed, more Gentiles were actually killed in the Holocaust than, than Jews.

01:31:33.560 The single largest group easily was Jews, but more, more people were, were killed that

01:31:39.060 weren't Jews.

01:31:39.700 And these were the types of things that were said.

01:31:42.120 And it is, it is an ongoing thing of first you dehumanize people, then you, you otherize them

01:31:48.700 to everyone that it's okay to do this.

01:31:50.940 Cause they're not really human or there are enough of an abstraction that you can do this,

01:31:55.020 but I really would rather avoid making a game of, of, of that.

01:31:59.340 Fair enough.

01:32:00.320 And one of these clips is actually, or at least one of the ones that I have is indistinguishable

01:32:04.820 from like something that like the U S government might be saying right now about the unvaccinated

01:32:09.380 as well.

01:32:10.020 Oh, easily.

01:32:10.580 Oh, easily.

01:32:11.320 Like you, you have mainstream, uh, mainstream people.

01:32:15.380 And by the way, I will say this, when it, when it comes to, uh, when it comes to like

01:32:21.400 vaccination, I, I'm actually, I'm not anti-vax.

01:32:24.380 I've chosen not to take it for my own personal reasons related to my own health.

01:32:27.780 And the fact that I've been able to remain like clean all this time and not have COVID

01:32:31.700 and whatever.

01:32:32.120 And I'm going around the whole country, but I think for most, I actually, I'm not anti-vax.

01:32:36.260 I think for most people, the vaccine probably a good idea at the very least, it keeps you,

01:32:39.640 uh, much less likely of being able to go to the hospital.

01:32:41.860 Now, with that said, the last way that you can try to talk people into doing something

01:32:46.180 is telling them they're not human.

01:32:47.520 If they don't do it, they don't deserve medical treatment, even if they're paying for it. 1.00

01:32:51.440 And they deserve to die, uh, because they're murderers, especially when you can still spread 0.97

01:32:55.920 COVID, even if you're not, even if you're vaccinated. 0.99

01:32:58.300 And I don't think the intent is to try to get them vaccinated.

01:33:01.740 The intent is to create the premise of mistreating unvaccinated people, even though that's not

01:33:09.620 the end goal, the end goal is using that dehumanization to create a structure that can

01:33:16.560 infringe upon them and oppress them and, and have at least enough of the population to be

01:33:20.880 cool with it.

01:33:21.840 And then they'll use it against everyone else too.

01:33:23.960 Had the Nazis been able to, to win the war, anyone who thinks that they would have looked 0.67

01:33:29.120 at their, you know, these camps that they built and everything and went, all right, well,

01:33:32.940 job's done guys.

01:33:33.820 Let's go wrap it up.

01:33:34.860 They're going to find the next people to put in there for no other reason than it was a

01:33:37.880 jobs program.

01:33:39.040 So, you know, I, I, you, you have me a hundred percent.

01:33:41.500 I just don't want to make a game out of it, but you are a hundred percent correct on it.

01:33:45.120 It is the, it is always the same playbook, marginalized, dehumanize, otherwise, and do

01:33:50.960 whatever you want to.

01:33:51.840 Are you actually put it out?

01:33:54.340 What's that?

01:33:56.220 No, I didn't.

01:33:57.160 Go ahead and plan.

01:33:58.360 I was just going to ask if you're, if you're okay with the comparisons to the Holocaust with,

01:34:02.820 uh, with the, or the lead up to the Holocaust, given what we're experiencing today, or are

01:34:07.580 you more in that rabbi's camp where it's like, we're not there yet.

01:34:11.000 So don't, so don't say it.

01:34:12.320 So like the LP Kentucky tweet.

01:34:14.840 Yeah.

01:34:15.280 So like, okay.

01:34:15.980 So, and I've talked about the LP Kentucky tweet, and this is a really good question.

01:34:18.980 I, I, the problem with using the Holocaust specifically is that no one wants to talk about

01:34:26.860 the fact that for 15 to 20 years prior, there was a campaign of, of marginalizing and it

01:34:31.900 started with stuff like, yeah, uh, Jews aren't allowed to go to certain restaurants.

01:34:36.420 Jews aren't allowed to practice certain businesses. 0.72

01:34:38.920 They aren't allowed to get licenses. 0.75

01:34:40.520 They aren't allowed to serve, uh, Gentiles. 1.00

01:34:42.940 They, they have to only serve other Jews. 0.99

01:34:45.000 Uh, they're not allowed to live in certain areas.

01:34:47.080 They're not allowed to join the party, which you had to be a party member to Nazi party member 0.66

01:34:50.980 to do certain things.

01:34:51.780 And it led to the Holocaust. 0.88

01:34:54.340 Do I think that we're stepping to, uh, rounding up unvaccinated people, uh, and putting them 1.00

01:34:59.720 in camps and killing all, I, I don't, I don't think so.

01:35:02.640 Uh, I think there are some countries that I wouldn't be shocked if that ended up happening

01:35:06.360 10, 15, 20 years right now.

01:35:08.880 Yeah.

01:35:09.360 Australia already is.

01:35:11.200 Two years.

01:35:11.700 Australia's.

01:35:12.280 Oh, and the camps already.

01:35:13.640 Yeah.

01:35:13.940 Yeah.

01:35:14.880 The camps are already there and it's, it's, it's, it's not obviously not death camps, but

01:35:19.540 it's camps.

01:35:20.440 And the difference between a camp and a death camp is what you do to them when you're done

01:35:23.780 with them.

01:35:24.340 Um, the, the, the point of all that is what I, I didn't like, I wish that that LP Kentucky

01:35:30.640 in their tweet, instead of going straight to like, you know, stars of David and the

01:35:34.080 Holocaust, instead talking about the fact that the system that's being created in order to 0.83

01:35:41.040 do this is literal fascism.

01:35:43.260 And, and, and, and if people take that and say, Oh, you mean like the Holocaust?

01:35:46.800 No, I mean like any example of fascism, it starts with this dehumanization and merging

01:35:51.660 of power of state incorporation is what allows anything bad to happen, including what we're

01:35:56.400 experiencing right now.

01:35:57.100 The lockdowns, the mandates, uh, all of this stuff happens as a direct result of those two

01:36:02.360 critical components, which is state power merging with corporate power and robbing us

01:36:06.260 all to pay for it.

01:36:07.060 And dehumanization and other rising of people and marginalizing of people in order to be

01:36:11.240 able to do it.

01:36:12.160 Um, I guarantee you that all of those militarized police that they convinced soccer moms and 0.98

01:36:18.600 boomers were needed to protect them from those black thug gang members are those exact same 1.00

01:36:23.340 people. 0.98

01:36:23.680 And those exact same equipment will be used to make sure that you obey whatever other

01:36:27.640 diktat comes down the road.

01:36:28.900 So be careful what happens when they're marginalizing them, whatever them is, even if you're not them,

01:36:36.180 that because go ahead, go ahead.

01:36:38.240 No, I was just going to say what I've never understood is this, this almost knee jerk,

01:36:43.420 like phobia to use the comparisons.

01:36:45.740 And the reason, the reason I bring it up is because is there not a better homage or a lesson

01:36:51.380 learned than to try and prevent the next Holocaust? 0.99

01:36:54.060 I mean, is that not the goal of modern, you know, libertarianism to some extent that we are

01:37:00.420 trying to prevent totalitarianism and potentially death camps if we get to that point?

01:37:04.680 And it's like, if you sound the bell too early, is that the reason?

01:37:08.240 Is that the reason that it's bad?

01:37:09.300 Because to me, it looks like they are laying the groundwork for what could potentially

01:37:13.120 be so bad that like, we only have the choice of fighting our way out of it.

01:37:17.740 And I would like to avoid that.

01:37:19.000 So why not, why not sound the alarm earlier rather than when it's too late?

01:37:23.400 I'm all for sounding the alarm.

01:37:25.320 I will say, and not just, not just the Holocaust, because this isn't like, oh, you know, the 0.73

01:37:29.220 Holocaust is the only time that some terrible thing happened. 0.97

01:37:31.660 But like, even trying to compare it to the holodomer or something like that, I think

01:37:36.420 instead you just talk, if you're, you can still sound the alarm, sound the alarm on something

01:37:41.260 that is more directly reachable for this.

01:37:44.260 Something, an example I've used is the dehumanization that had to happen and the structures that had

01:37:50.820 to be created in order to, to take land from natives and to, to scatter them about completely 0.99

01:37:58.120 disregard treaties and just, you know, go and do whatever.

01:38:00.960 And, you know, here you have that happening and most Americans were either okay with it

01:38:05.100 or it just didn't affect them or they were gung ho about it.

01:38:07.720 And then all of that stuff, all those powers, all of those things were ended up being used

01:38:12.660 against American people in, in ways large and small.

01:38:15.720 So it's just, I just don't like going straight to the mass murder of the giant body counts

01:38:20.780 because, and the reason for that, it's not even that it's completely off the mark in terms

01:38:26.440 of what could happen.

01:38:27.480 It's that for the average person looking at it, just from a tactical and framing standpoint,

01:38:32.020 they go, you're comparing the vaccine passport or the, or the lockdowns to, you know, 20 million

01:38:39.120 people being rounded up and killed or, or, or whatever.

01:38:41.260 And, and then when someone does try to make the more nuanced approach, they get hit over

01:38:45.640 the head with, Oh, you mean like the Holocaust? 0.63

01:38:47.260 And as opposed to, you know, so that's, it's more of a message framing thing and keeping

01:38:52.220 in mind that I I'm someone that, you know, coming from a business background, doing the

01:38:56.080 sales and marketing thing, now applying that to politics. 0.99

01:38:58.260 I'm always trying to think like five and six steps ahead, especially now in politics,

01:39:02.180 where you're going to have like counter messaging coming at you way more so than necessarily

01:39:06.260 in business.

01:39:06.960 Um, what is that counter messaging going to look like and how am I already addressing

01:39:10.900 that and how I'm talking, which is why my tweets and posts are often so different than

01:39:15.740 other libertarians is that I'm, I'm doing the approach, uh, an issue that the left supports

01:39:23.220 from the, from what the left would be upset about approach an issue from the right, that

01:39:27.620 the right would, would be mad about something that the right would be upset about and already

01:39:32.160 try to factor in when someone goes, yeah, but what about whatever, or, Oh, you mean

01:39:36.600 this, I don't even have to respond. 0.99

01:39:38.600 Other people are like, schmuck. 1.00

01:39:39.900 He said that, like what the thing you're, you're knee jerk reacting. 1.00

01:39:43.320 He already said that. 0.87

01:39:44.220 So that's why I'm not a fan of that.

01:39:45.960 But from a standpoint of like sounding an alarm, I I'm not against it.

01:39:50.120 It's not my thing.

01:39:50.900 Like I, everyone wanted to jump on LP Kentucky.

01:39:53.440 When that happened, I reached out to a couple of people there and was like, here's why I think

01:39:56.980 it's being received the way that it is.

01:39:58.880 Uh, and I'm not a fan of it, but here's how I think it could have been worded better, but I'm

01:40:02.740 not going to dogpile on someone that's trying to warn us about creeping tyranny and fascist.

01:40:06.580 I'm like, I just, I'm not, it's not my jam.

01:40:09.100 Yeah.

01:40:09.320 I mean, I think some of that is also kind of like the positive of it.

01:40:11.920 Cause I think when it's something that's like, it was kind of a concise tweet and it was

01:40:16.120 like really aggressive.

01:40:17.440 So I think it gets a lot of eyes.

01:40:19.180 It's like a short sentence.

01:40:19.580 I get it.

01:40:20.060 Like it gets an, it gets a lot of eyes on it.

01:40:22.000 So I think it's going to like get more people to be like, Oh, like what is this libertarian

01:40:25.560 party actually doing?

01:40:26.840 I went back and I retweeted it again yesterday.

01:40:29.740 It's like the LP New Hampshire's tweet.

01:40:31.620 Like that definitely turned some people off, but I don't know.

01:40:34.640 I mean, it just kind of depends.

01:40:35.760 Like you're going to, which New Hampshire, which New Hampshire, the child labor one, like

01:40:43.120 the McCain one, that was like an inspiration for, you know, an example.

01:40:52.940 So the, the child labor thing now for libertarians, we hear, yeah, it'd be better for a kid to

01:40:58.480 work.

01:40:58.960 Uh, I forget how it was exactly worded, but I think it was something like, I'd rather

01:41:02.440 a, you know, a child be working mines or something like that.

01:41:05.580 I forget what, yeah, yeah.

01:41:06.440 I'd rather a kid be in a coal mine than in a government indoctrination center.

01:41:09.580 And it was like, why say it that way?

01:41:12.020 Like instead I've seen, I've seen another version that is showing a kid who's working

01:41:17.260 at like the family shop and they're, and they're like, you know, they're, they're using the

01:41:21.960 cash register and it's like, probably like, I don't know, 12, you know, maybe 11, 12 year

01:41:26.080 old that's working.

01:41:27.060 It's obviously like the family shop or, you know, whatever, you know, and, and, and someone's

01:41:31.140 like, I'm outraged.

01:41:32.340 They're having to use math and do this and do that and be there for a set period of hours

01:41:37.880 and they're getting, and they're getting paid for it.

01:41:40.160 They need to be at school doing all that for free.

01:41:42.360 Like, and that was like, actually like, huh.

01:41:46.140 Or like when I talk about child labor laws, first of all, I don't say child.

01:41:49.340 Cause people think of a five-year-old with the, with the cigar and the fricking, you

01:41:53.320 know, coal ash all over their face.

01:41:55.180 Like no one really wants that.

01:41:56.900 No one would be okay with that.

01:41:58.200 No one's going to send their kid to that.

01:41:59.960 But the, um, I got like five kids in a coal mine right now.

01:42:03.780 How do you think I retired?

01:42:05.800 Besides Clint, no one else is going to do that.

01:42:07.920 Right.

01:42:08.080 We already knew you're doing it.

01:42:09.200 I was trying to avoid that, but, uh, uh, I talk about the fact that, uh, uh,

01:42:12.340 the fact that I started working when I was 13 and it was actually illegal for the first

01:42:15.820 two years.

01:42:16.220 Cause you had to be 15 to work legally in South Carolina.

01:42:18.380 And I, I worked, uh, illegally under the table and I learned a lot of stuff.

01:42:22.320 I learned a work ethic.

01:42:23.580 I learned to network.

01:42:24.820 I learned cause I was like busting tables, hustling in the kitchen and stuff.

01:42:27.700 And I would all like all like just whatever they could get a 13 year old kid to do it

01:42:31.360 at a restaurant or a bar or whatever.

01:42:33.200 And I learned that I'd get tipped out by the waiters and waitresses when I'd schmooze with

01:42:38.060 them, when they liked me, when I do stuff for them.

01:42:39.840 So I learned the power of networking, the power of, you know, of, of, of, of, you know,

01:42:43.760 making friends, not just, you know, nose to the grindstone, but working smarter, not just

01:42:47.720 harder.

01:42:48.200 The other thing I learned is I'm bussing tables and working in a kitchen and, you know, sometimes

01:42:52.680 washing dishes or mopping floors.

01:42:54.700 And then I'd look and there's someone who's three times my, three times my age doing the

01:42:58.800 exact same thing.

01:43:00.180 And I'm like, I don't even like doing this now.

01:43:02.840 I like that I'm getting all this money, but I, I, you know, my five bucks under the table

01:43:06.860 an hour plus my tip outs, but I don't want to do this either.

01:43:10.460 I don't want to die.

01:43:11.060 My back already hurts.

01:43:12.240 And that's what led me to starting my business when I was 16.

01:43:15.420 So the reason I'm now retired is because I ignored the teen labor laws in South Carolina.

01:43:21.760 Yeah.

01:43:22.020 I think the greatest, the greatest reason for teenagers or young, you know, 12, 13, 14 year

01:43:28.620 old store is, is exactly what you just said, because same exact arc first, first job I 0.89

01:43:34.420 had was putting up fucking ceiling fans in San Bernardino, California during August for 0.94

01:43:39.020 30 days straight. 0.99

01:43:39.860 I put up a hundred, 120 ceiling fans in 115 degree heat with no AC.

01:43:45.080 And it was the hardest job you could possibly have.

01:43:47.840 And I was like, I will never do manual labor again.

01:43:52.560 And because of that, I was like, I'm going to focus on school.

01:43:55.480 I'm going to get, I'm going to use my mind and, and like, you don't get that lesson if

01:43:59.020 you're just sitting at home playing video games.

01:44:00.360 So I agree with you.

01:44:00.940 No, and instead we infantilize kids now, we make it where like the average American now,

01:44:08.660 a lot of them, they don't actually have their first job until they've already got like a

01:44:13.340 four or six year or eight year degree.

01:44:15.720 And now they're figuring out, that's why I'm trying to adult.

01:44:18.720 You literally have someone in their mid to late twenties that for the first time ever is

01:44:22.520 actually like trying to work or trying to do whatever and figure out how that works.

01:44:27.220 Cause they've been a school kid, they've been a school kid for, you know, decades and that's,

01:44:33.140 that's, you know, they're being infantilized basically.

01:44:35.620 And then they're not ready for the real world.

01:44:37.280 And they have, you know, six figures of crushing debt to have to try to figure out being thrust

01:44:41.520 into adulthood, including, you know, a mortgage size debt and owning nothing as opposed to,

01:44:46.680 I would wait when my last job where I worked for someone else was at 16, I worked landscaping

01:44:52.980 because they were like, well, we'll pay you a, well, I think it was a seven under the table

01:44:57.680 or whatever.

01:44:58.640 And, uh, and you'll get a tan and it'll make you strong.

01:45:01.040 And they were right.

01:45:01.600 I was the strong, about the strongest I've ever been in my life.

01:45:03.780 And I had a nice tan and I was miserable digging ditches, pulling stumps, fricking laying

01:45:09.440 sod during the summer and like, uh, in South Carolina, miserable.

01:45:16.800 And that was the final straw where I'm like, yeah, no, I'm definitely, I got to figure something

01:45:21.900 out.

01:45:22.180 And my parents were like, well, look, you either got to start a business, go to college,

01:45:26.120 whatever.

01:45:26.540 And I definitely didn't want to do college.

01:45:28.020 I was done with school.

01:45:28.900 I'd already been kicked out of all the schools in my, in my school district is the whole story

01:45:32.560 there.

01:45:32.960 And, uh, and I, and they're like, so you're either being homeschooled or you're going to some

01:45:37.780 juvie school program or whatever.

01:45:39.660 And my parents were like, basically like, you know, let me teach myself those last two.

01:45:44.420 It was supposed to be two years.

01:45:45.560 I got it in like eight months so that by the time I was like about to turn 17, I was able

01:45:50.220 to start my business.

01:45:51.000 And all of that started with ignoring teen labor laws in South Carolina.

01:45:56.080 Had I not done that, I, who knows where I'd be right now?

01:45:58.980 I, I certainly don't think I'd be retired in my thirties.

01:46:02.200 Well, so Spike, uh, it was actually, um, I just, so whenever someone,

01:46:07.780 someone starts commenting on something that's related to tower gang and you ended up like

01:46:11.840 in a thread that was related to tower gang.

01:46:14.180 And I just said, Spike, go on tower gang, like, and then you actually messaged me, Hey,

01:46:20.560 if you guys want me on tower gang, then just call Brian.

01:46:23.240 And I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, that was, so it was you.

01:46:27.320 Cause I didn't know what tower gang was.

01:46:29.020 I knew I had something to do with you.

01:46:31.100 And, and I, and then I think I may have known that Clint was involved or Josh.

01:46:35.020 I think I only knew it was you, but I may have known Clint and Josh or whatever.

01:46:38.240 And I'm like, all right, fine.

01:46:39.960 And then everyone's like, what did you tower gang?

01:46:42.500 And I'm like, I'm like, yeah, okay.

01:46:46.420 You can officially disavow us now.

01:46:48.780 I disavow this entire episode, including myself has been said or done on this episode

01:46:58.320 is beyond the pale and unacceptable.

01:47:00.820 No, listen, I, I, I, that is going in our new intro reel.

01:47:03.840 Just so you know, Angela did it.

01:47:07.580 Angela did it at the beginning.

01:47:08.580 She came on. 0.93

01:47:09.200 She was like, by the way, before I say anything, I disavow this whole thing.

01:47:12.160 Everything you say is totally disavowed.

01:47:13.880 That was probably smarter.

01:47:14.880 It was probably way smarter to do it from the beginning.

01:47:17.140 No, listen, I came here.

01:47:18.060 The one thing I wanted to say is what I already said when we talked about, you know,

01:47:21.000 like that it's, it's okay to one thing.

01:47:24.100 I think you, you guys were already off Clint by the time I said this by not, by not having

01:47:30.640 some hills where you go, yeah, I don't want to die on that hill.

01:47:32.940 I'm sorry.

01:47:33.260 I didn't do that.

01:47:34.080 That makes, when you do stand on a hill, it makes it more, I don't know if you were here

01:47:37.740 when I said that, that makes that more powerful as opposed to if you just are willing to die

01:47:41.500 on every hill, people are like, yeah, this is how they are.

01:47:43.460 Whereas if, if it's like, no, no, this is something I'm standing behind.

01:47:46.440 Now that actually means something that it's like, well, yeah, they've admitted when they

01:47:50.160 were wrong on other stuff.

01:47:51.240 This is, this is, this is clearly something they really mean.

01:47:54.440 Maybe we should, you know, think about it differently or whatever.

01:47:56.580 But anyway, I've said what I had to say on that.

01:47:58.760 And I was glad to be on.

01:48:00.080 And before we end, I'd be, we would be remissed if we did not ask you about the brony stuff.

01:48:06.100 Like it was just something that we wanted to ask you.

01:48:08.100 Yeah, let's end on that.

01:48:09.440 Okay.

01:48:11.740 Okay.

01:48:12.780 So I'm not a brony and I believe it was Michael Malice that, that like turned Spike hat.

01:48:18.500 Well, I don't know.

01:48:18.860 Maybe he just, he made it popular or whatever, but so people have taken the fact that I named

01:48:23.200 myself Spike after a, my little pony character.

01:48:25.460 When I was three years old and I was three, uh, that, and the name's stuck and everyone's

01:48:33.940 using it and it is what it is.

01:48:35.200 Uh, to, I, I watched that movie and it, cause it came out in 85 and there weren't even toys

01:48:41.000 or anything.

01:48:41.400 It was literally just a kid's movie.

01:48:42.980 I went out, I saw the thing.

01:48:44.420 I'm like, ah, I want to be Spike.

01:48:45.880 And it also, so part of that is my brother.

01:48:48.380 Who's like, he's considerably older than me.

01:48:50.260 He would tell me that, uh, you know, Jeremy was, I think it was, he said he never said this,

01:48:55.300 but I, someone said it that Jeremy was a girl's name, like Julie or Jenny or whatever.

01:49:00.600 And I'm like, the hell.

01:49:03.060 So, so I'm, I don't want to be, so I don't want to be Jeremy.

01:49:06.180 And so that's, that's my, that's my government name.

01:49:08.620 And, uh, and so I go, I go, I already didn't want to be a Jeremy.

01:49:13.020 And so I go to, um, I go to this thing and I just am like enamored with the whole story

01:49:18.880 and he becomes the big dragon and kills the wizard or whatever the hell.

01:49:22.580 And, and, and I'm like, yeah. 0.57

01:49:24.060 Okay.

01:49:24.400 So I'm Spike.

01:49:25.200 My parents are like, no, you're Jeremy.

01:49:26.780 I'm like, no, I'm Spike.

01:49:27.740 I'm Spike.

01:49:28.400 You gotta call me Spike.

01:49:29.200 I'm Spike now.

01:49:29.820 And they're like, so they take me to a, I, I, I, I was saying child behavioralist,

01:49:35.060 but my parents are like, no, it was just a doctor.

01:49:36.900 And, uh, I don't think they had child behavioralist back then.

01:49:39.300 And so I talked to a doc, they had me talk to a doctor and the doctor's like, he's not

01:49:44.840 crazy.

01:49:45.300 He knows his name is, you call them Jeremy or whatever.

01:49:48.000 He just really wants to be Spike.

01:49:49.500 So just call him Spike.

01:49:50.640 It's a phase.

01:49:51.160 He's going to get over it.

01:49:51.880 Whatever.

01:49:52.260 I'm 39 now.

01:49:53.140 I'm still Spike.

01:49:53.960 I've literally was Spike Cohen on 50 ballots, you know, across the country.

01:49:58.740 At this point, it's not a phase.

01:49:59.820 But no, I'm not a brony.

01:50:00.920 I know people that are bronies.

01:50:02.260 I don't have a problem with bronies, but like, I stopped following my little pony after watching

01:50:07.060 that movie.

01:50:07.960 Like I, I, there was, I was three and I, you know, I, I never had my little pony dolls.

01:50:14.500 I was, that was never my thing.

01:50:15.760 I was never, I greatly preferred my imagination of this story where like you, you are like a

01:50:20.700 furry and you rock like a pony outfit and you go to conventions.

01:50:23.540 It's like, wow.

01:50:24.280 I enjoyed that way more than this story, but this is the, this is the disappointment, right?

01:50:30.860 Cause people want me to be a furry.

01:50:32.120 So there was an actual, there was an actual furry at what, which convention.

01:50:37.440 And like, I took my photo with, with, with the guy and I forget what his name was, but

01:50:42.740 like, and I believe that he was under the impression, not that I was a furry, but that

01:50:48.360 I was a brony.

01:50:49.140 And so it kind of like, it bothered him that I'm like, so now when I'm like, no, I'm not

01:50:53.320 a brony. 0.60

01:50:53.660 Everyone's like, what the hell? 0.97

01:50:54.900 Like, and I'm, I'm not, no, I was, I was never a brony. 0.82

01:50:59.580 I was a child who watched a movie.

01:51:01.420 And again, this is nothing against bronies.

01:51:04.040 If you're into my MLP, you're into what I don't care.

01:51:06.540 Like I'm one of the most open-minded people to whatever people are into.

01:51:10.060 You're a furry.

01:51:10.740 I don't care. 0.85

01:51:11.280 Like, none of that bothers me.

01:51:12.460 Do whatever you want.

01:51:13.120 Just don't hurt anyone else.

01:51:14.220 But my thing is like, so, but no, I'm just, I'm not, I was a three-year-old.

01:51:17.920 I think it's so funny. 0.99

01:51:20.700 The furries are like, you're a brony, you sick freak. 1.00

01:51:25.660 Wait a minute, but wait, do the bronies have the same type of like weird, like sex culture 1.00

01:51:30.260 that the furries do? 0.98

01:51:30.960 It's, it's, yeah.

01:51:32.180 So it's, it's, I, I, they go around yiffing.

01:51:35.840 I'm not, yeah, I don't with this.

01:51:37.760 I don't know. 0.63

01:51:38.760 I think that, yeah, the bronies I know.

01:51:41.560 And it's fun.

01:51:42.520 And you guys should all join me.

01:51:43.680 That's all I'm talking about.

01:51:45.120 No.

01:51:45.320 The bronies I know just like watch the cartoon.

01:51:48.100 Yeah.

01:51:48.260 The bronies I know just watch the cartoons and like, they'll ask me like what my thoughts

01:51:52.140 are about friendship is magic or whatever.

01:51:54.680 And I'm like, what?

01:51:56.000 And as soon as they'll start like naming names that I don't know, and I'm like, and I'll

01:51:59.860 be like, this is a My Little Pony thing, isn't it?

01:52:02.380 They're like, yeah.

01:52:03.080 And I'm like, I can't help you.

01:52:05.300 I'm pretty sure it's on your Wikipedia page.

01:52:07.480 Because I just remember, like, when you're running, when you're like, I just remember

01:52:11.140 when you're running and on Facebook, like these people that always be like, hey, vote

01:52:14.680 for Joe Jorgensen, Spike Cohen.

01:52:16.160 They're like, Spike, that's that brony guy.

01:52:19.100 I'm like, I don't think he is.

01:52:23.320 Yep.

01:52:24.200 Let's see here.

01:52:25.400 It is.

01:52:26.740 Oh, he's looking it up.

01:52:28.240 Did they remove it?

01:52:29.660 Did they?

01:52:30.080 Oh, no, it is.

01:52:30.640 Yeah, he purports, purports, because it's literally my life story, but he purports to

01:52:37.440 have chosen the nickname Spike at the age of three after the character from the 1986, actually

01:52:42.340 1985 movie, my film, My Little Pony.

01:52:45.320 Wait, isn't it?

01:52:46.360 Is it My Little?

01:52:47.040 I think that's fair.

01:52:48.520 Oh, no, it was 86.

01:52:49.380 No, you know what?

01:52:49.840 It was 86, right before my fourth birthday.

01:52:52.120 So, yeah.

01:52:52.600 It's really funny because it is like the first thing you see about it, too.

01:52:56.420 It is literally like, it's just like, it catches your eye. 0.99

01:52:59.900 That garbage photo, that absolute jackass photo they use of me. 0.99

01:53:05.260 It's like, oh, wow, they got a photo of Mia Maj-Ture. 0.99

01:53:07.740 Thank God there's another photo of me now.

01:53:10.140 They have a photo of Mia Maj-Ture at Freedom Fest.

01:53:13.020 That photo they have of me.

01:53:14.920 Here, I'm going to go ahead.

01:53:15.620 It's talkless, though.

01:53:16.860 I honestly thought when Virgin Supreme was running and he was offering ponies, we all got

01:53:21.180 our own, our very own Spike Cohen.

01:53:23.180 So, I think had that been the case, he probably would have won.

01:53:27.060 Oh, no, that would have been better. 0.84

01:53:28.720 Look at this jackass photo that they use of me on the internet so often. 0.97

01:53:33.320 Look at this. 0.99

01:53:34.400 Look at this.

01:53:35.600 Look at this absolute.

01:53:38.800 Look at this absolute Adonis here.

01:53:41.980 Look at this.

01:53:43.140 Okay.

01:53:43.740 Backstory on this photo.

01:53:44.780 Not the best picture of you.

01:53:45.680 I'm not going to lie.

01:53:46.260 No.

01:53:46.580 Backstory on this photo.

01:53:47.660 This is in Arizona.

01:53:49.500 It is 125 degrees outside.

01:53:53.040 My hair looks like that because the stuff I had in my hair had literally melted.

01:53:57.760 And it's just flopped down.

01:54:00.120 My hair always looks like that.

01:54:01.360 I was going to say it just looks like that.

01:54:02.560 I was rocking the Coverdale there.

01:54:06.600 And the reason my face looks like that is I'm bravely answering this probably hour or two of Q&A out in the park at 120 degree weather with the bus behind me and the heat's radiating off of that.

01:54:18.520 And the freaking generator they have running the AV equipment.

01:54:21.700 I can feel that exhaust fan hitting me.

01:54:23.700 I was in absolute misery in this photo.

01:54:26.580 So what this is a photo of.

01:54:27.900 Can you pull up the photo of the old guy in front of his computer with the thumb up? 0.89

01:54:34.060 Because he's making the exact same expression where he's like his life's being sucked. 0.91

01:54:38.660 Yes. 0.96

01:54:39.280 The old guy from like Eastern Europe. 0.99

01:54:41.420 Yeah.

01:54:41.660 Who has that tortured smile on his face.

01:54:45.080 That's literally.

01:54:45.820 And I put this on because it was like the lightest shirt I have.

01:54:50.560 And I was never a huge fan of this shirt. 0.96

01:54:52.160 But it was like the lightest one that I'm like, okay, it shouldn't be too heavy being out there in the freaking sun with a tie on like a jackass.

01:55:00.380 And so this photo, I don't know why this photo is prominent.

01:55:04.680 But every time it gets and I'm like, can we just make this photo go away?

01:55:08.160 Because if I look at this photo, if someone said, you know, I want you to hear from someone who is one of the greatest minds in the whatever movement.

01:55:17.000 And you need to hear what he has to say.

01:55:19.680 And this.

01:55:20.400 Yes.

01:55:21.080 Yeah.

01:55:23.940 Look, same energy.

01:55:26.180 Same energy.

01:55:28.440 Same energy.

01:55:29.580 Okay.

01:55:29.800 Someone in the chat said, that guy uses a calculator watch.

01:55:35.780 And it works.

01:55:38.640 I don't know if I want him to be my vice president, but I wouldn't mind him being my CPA.

01:55:42.760 Yeah, that's right.

01:55:44.260 Exactly.

01:55:45.100 So this.

01:55:45.540 Hey, can you do my taxes, man?

01:55:47.700 Anyone who looks at you don't want me doing your tax.

01:55:49.820 I have an accountant.

01:55:50.720 You don't want me doing your tax.

01:55:52.300 So this photo is used so much.

01:55:55.660 And every time I'm like, can you use like the photo that I actually have on my social media?

01:55:59.700 And every time they go, oh, sorry, I just pulled it up from the Wikipedia.

01:56:03.580 And if you Google Spike Cohen, if you Google Spike Cohen, because that photo is on my Wikipedia, it's the first damn photo of me that comes up.

01:56:13.720 Everyone else has these nice professional photos.

01:56:16.660 Joe has a way better photo. 0.97

01:56:18.920 Every freaking person.

01:56:20.380 Yeah, but Spike, you know what happens if you YouTube read Coverdale? 0.62

01:56:25.220 My appearance on Tower Gang comes up first.

01:56:28.020 I'm a naturalist capitalist.

01:56:30.540 So all the Tower Gang episodes.

01:56:31.720 Well, maybe, who knows?

01:56:32.840 Maybe that'll happen to me, no click.

01:56:34.660 Yeah.

01:56:35.560 Spike looking like a discount Justin Amash.

01:56:38.900 Listen, you know, not all of us have the guns, right?

01:56:41.280 Like, it's, you know, he's.

01:56:44.040 But.

01:56:44.320 Yeah, no, I, yeah.

01:56:46.040 Spike, thanks for coming on. 0.59

01:56:47.400 It was brave.

01:56:48.020 Yeah, that's fine.

01:56:48.500 And you made it all the way through.

01:56:49.780 You didn't, like, leave us midstream.

01:56:53.240 Not Dave, quick.

01:56:54.200 Say a racial slur.

01:56:56.820 Yeah, no, Adam, don't.

01:56:57.960 Please don't.

01:56:59.980 Where can people keep up with you, follow you, see what you're doing?

01:57:03.820 And do you have anything interesting coming up just to close out?

01:57:07.540 Well, just follow me on Tower Gang Podcast because I'm now host number 137.

01:57:12.780 That's right.

01:57:13.400 That's right.

01:57:15.240 The, so no, my podcast, the Muddy Waters of Freedom and My Fellow Americans are on Muddy

01:57:22.100 Waters Media.

01:57:23.140 You can see us on all, we're on all social media platforms, on all podcasting platforms

01:57:27.240 and on muddied, not muddy, muddiedwatersmedia.com.

01:57:32.020 We are also, if you want to follow just what I'm doing, you know, out here trying to help

01:57:36.240 grow the Liberty Movement and lead by example on giving people actual positive things to

01:57:40.580 do instead of arguing with each other on the internet all the time, then you can follow

01:57:43.800 me on all, on my, as Spike Cohen, you can find me Spike Cohen on Facebook, on Twitter, on

01:57:49.920 YouTube, on Instagram.

01:57:51.660 I'm on TikTok for the kids.

01:57:53.440 And my website is SpikeCohen.com.

01:57:56.280 That has all my most recent media.

01:57:57.860 It also has my upcoming events.

01:57:59.700 Come on out to an event.

01:58:00.740 You want to come meet me?

01:58:01.660 You want to ask me questions in person?

01:58:03.700 As you can see, I'm an open book.

01:58:04.800 I'm happy to answer any questions that you have, even incredibly uncomfortable ones from

01:58:08.320 Clint.

01:58:09.240 And yeah, I'd be happy to meet you in person.

01:58:12.680 And that's it.

01:58:13.500 Yeah.

01:58:13.620 Spike Cohen and Muddy Waters Media.

01:58:15.200 And thank you guys for having me on.

01:58:16.460 A rare moment, a rare moment of sentimentality for me.

01:58:19.660 Reed and I got to meet you in South Dakota at Freedom Fest.

01:58:22.280 And I, I just want to say you were so welcoming and so warm and, and one of the more genuine

01:58:26.380 people I've ever met in this, in this scene.

01:58:28.120 And I really appreciate the hard work that you do.

01:58:30.620 So you said you're warm after we spent a week in a hotel together.

01:58:34.960 So, you know, that must mean you're like a really warm place.

01:58:39.240 It's a different warmth.

01:58:40.360 It's a different warmth.

01:58:41.260 It's a different warmth.

01:58:42.660 Robin did DM me the pic, but I don't know if, we can't do it on the stream, right?

01:58:46.500 Because there's nudity in it, or I don't know.

01:58:48.160 Yeah, I was going to say, don't, don't get, of all the things, don't get demonetized for

01:58:52.180 that.

01:58:52.460 Well, I looked at it briefly.

01:58:53.540 It was like Josh Smith shirtless.

01:58:55.640 It was a bunch of dudes shirtless.

01:58:57.400 I'm like, I don't know.

01:58:57.940 Robin might be in here somewhere.

01:58:59.940 You can follow me on Twitter.

01:59:02.120 You can follow me on Twitter at Liberty LockPod, Liberty Lockdown Podcast on YouTube, Spotify,

01:59:05.940 iTunes, everywhere else, and also Liberty Lockdown on Instagram.

01:59:08.240 Thank you so much for having me.

01:59:10.360 Naturalist Capitalist, not Reed Coverdale on YouTube.

01:59:13.980 Yes, Reed Coverdale.

01:59:15.600 And then at Reed Coverdale on Twitter, and you can see all my stuff there.

01:59:20.280 Hell yeah.

01:59:20.800 At Fat Comic Dave, you know, and the Tower Gang Pod on Twitter.

01:59:23.680 Wednesday, me and Toad are going to be on Dan Smott's podcast.

01:59:29.880 Yes, System of a Down.

01:59:31.280 System of a Down, yeah. 1.00

01:59:32.820 System of a Down syndrome with you fuckers on there. 1.00

01:59:36.900 On Trapped, the Trapped Podcast. 1.00

01:59:40.480 Next week, we have Lord Visconti.

01:59:43.220 Is that who he was on next week?

01:59:44.960 Is that his name?

01:59:45.880 Lord Visconti.

01:59:46.520 Lord Visconti, I think, is on Twitter.

01:59:50.440 He's basically going to talk about Afghanistan, and he actually was over there.

01:59:54.400 So it's going to be pretty cool to see that.

01:59:56.260 Hell yeah.

01:59:57.080 And we have Josh Denny next week as well. 1.00

01:59:59.240 Oh, shit. 0.99

01:59:59.840 I forgot. 1.00

02:00:00.100 Thursday, maybe.

02:00:01.120 Something like that.

02:00:01.780 Yeah.

02:00:02.180 So two episodes next week.

02:00:04.720 Hell yeah.

02:00:05.200 Sweet.

02:00:06.360 All right.

02:00:06.720 Love you guys.

02:00:07.120 Thanks, everybody.

02:00:08.100 All right.

02:00:09.040 Peace, everybody.

02:00:09.640 Peace out.

02:00:09.920 Peace out.

02:00:09.960 Peace out.

02:00:10.000 Peace out.

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02:00:10.120 Peace out.

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Tower Gang - September 15, 2021

Ep 34 - White Women Must be Co-Opted w⧸ Spike Cohen

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