In this episode of Tower Gang Power Hour, we are joined by Jose Galisson, host of No Way Out and host of The Naturalist Capital, and Ryan Dawson of The Banished People on the Internet, to discuss the new documentary "Why You Would Hurt My Heart."
00:00:01.000It's not true. God, in my imagination, it was true.
00:00:15.300On the first day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, an apple, but only in my mind.
00:00:22.100On the second day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:00:32.800On the third day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:00:43.680On the fourth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:00:57.480On the fifth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, five poop diamonds, four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:01:15.160On the sixth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:01:23.920Four holocausters, three gas fans, four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:01:32.980On the seventh day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, seven cattle cars, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:01:45.160Four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:01:53.920On the ninth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, eight electric floors, seven cattle cars, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:02:07.340Four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:02:15.180On the tenth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind.
00:02:45.160Seven lampshades, nine camps escaped, eight electric floors, seven cattle cars, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:02:58.580Four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:03:05.920On the twelfth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, eleven bars of show, ten lampshades, nine camps escaped, eight electric floors, seven cattle cars, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:03:24.760Four holocausters, four holocausters, four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:03:33.760On the twelfth day of show, a mindfewer was so kind, twelve shower heads, eleven bars of show, ten lampshades, nine camps escaped, eight electric floors, seven cattle cars, six Nazi geese, five poop diamonds.
00:03:54.760Four holocausters, three gas fans, two jack-off machines, and an apple, but only in my mind.
00:05:45.980Reed Coverdale, host of Naturalist Capitalist.
00:05:48.840And also following in Ryan Dawson's footsteps, one of the more banned people on the internet.
00:05:55.120I am Clint Russell, host of Liberty Lockdown.
00:05:57.120And my career is ending before my eyes.
00:05:59.820And as always, a very special guest, literally the most banned man on the planet, Mr. Ryan Dawson, host, or excuse me, founder, creator, host of A&C Report.
00:06:47.380So tonight, this is the culmination of our conspiracy month.
00:06:52.380And what else would we discuss other than the thing that literally no one on earth is comfortable discussing, which is the six million figure when it comes to the Holocaust and whether or not that's accurate, blah, blah, blah.
00:07:05.720As you guys know, I'm going to preface this.
00:07:07.960Because we, I don't know about everybody, but the vast majority of us, I'm just kidding, big fans of many Jewish people.
00:07:16.740This is not to question all Jewish people.
00:07:19.760This is not, I mean, Jose may feel differently, but.
00:08:17.900Well, I want to, I want to add on to that.
00:08:20.340A lot of people don't even know this, but the official number is 11 million, not 6 million.
00:08:26.540The official numbers are 6 million Jews and then 5 million like gypsies, homosexuals, polls, you know, but if you question the 5 million homosexuals, polls, gypsies, whatever, like you're not a denier.
00:08:41.680It's only if you think there were fewer than 6 million Jews, which with any other genocide, like the guesses for Stalin are all over the place.
00:08:50.700It's like 17 million to, you know, 30 million or whatever.
00:08:54.480And then the same with Mao, but this one, like if you don't buy this round number, you're a denier and you also hate Jews.
00:09:01.560It means zero and it means you're anti-Semitic unless you go with the top number, even though Holocaust scholars don't have that number to 6 million is from Steven Spielberg.
00:10:01.340I'm saying fucking the Iraq war, Afghanistan, like any of these wars that we've been in.
00:10:05.320And these are American-led wars where you think there'd be really close, you know, track keeping.
00:10:10.600And it's just, there's, the range is so enormous.
00:10:14.380And yet this is the one area where you just can't even discuss it.
00:10:18.260And I, I mean, I'm sure there are some, but I think that the vast majority of people that question this figure are truly just questioning the figure.
00:10:25.920They're not saying that there wasn't a tremendous amount of human casualties here, right?
00:10:30.400Is there a huge contingent of people that just believe it's flat out false?
00:10:33.620I mean, I would, I'd make it akin to the questioning September 11th or something.
00:10:41.020Like most, most people questioning 9-11 aren't acting like it didn't happen.
00:10:46.240They just want to know the details of how it happened and why, and did we have foreknowledge or not.
00:10:50.480But there are some kooks that think it's all holograms or whatever.
00:10:54.920And with World War II revisionism, like no one's serious denies a Holocaust, but there are some kooks that are like 6 million crisis actors or whatever.
00:11:56.020We might as well just say like, and what happens is if you are legitimately questioning the lockdowns or any aspect of the virus, the economics of it, the science, whatever, then they're going to put you in that camp of, oh, you're a virus denying retard or whatever.
00:12:11.360And if you question any aspect of the Holocaust, no matter how ridiculous, you know, the eagle and the bear story or whatever, which was in the New York Times, they'll say, oh, you're a denier and you hate Jews and you think no one died and whatever.
00:12:29.420If you look at Gamar Rudolph or David Cole or any revisionist, Eric Hunt, Fred Loyster, they all admit that people were murdered and killed on purpose and starved and all of the above.
00:12:41.700It's not like, well, where did they die of disease?
00:12:53.840The thing that's going to piss people off the most is the gas and oven story, because most people, if you show them, look, the soap and lampshades, even Deborah Lipschatt agrees that never happened.
00:13:07.040Like most scholars on both sides know that that was the psych ward department.
00:13:11.920They brought people in from the city of Weimar into Buchenwald, had a display desk is the OSS.
00:14:35.900There's probably you can kind of make parallels to what I'm getting at to almost like the Putin thing.
00:14:39.100Like, I'm not saying invading Ukraine is OK or whatever, but we can also point out reasons why, you know, political, you know, sociopolitical things led to this.
00:14:48.760And I was I actually watched Pete's show the other day.
00:14:52.040He had this episode that he only put on Odyssey for the obvious reason.
00:14:56.840And I feel like this seems to be something to be right up Ryan's alley.
00:15:00.020And I think he may have something to say about it.
00:15:02.100But the case that the individual, I wish I could remember his name, was making in that episode with Pete was that what led up to that whole thing and why he was trying to get rid of him is it.
00:15:12.820Well, I mean, to some extent, it probably was racism, but there was an actual like reasons for it.
00:15:18.780And the case he was making is that the Bolshevik revolution in Russia was basically a Jewish coup to some extent, a Jewish Zionist, whatever the fuck you want to call it.
00:15:30.100And they were kind of doing the same thing in Germany.
00:15:33.480And that's kind of like some of the stuff you saw with like the degeneracy occurring there.
00:15:37.540And they were trying to sort of overthrow it.
00:15:39.980And Hitler was having no part of that.
00:15:42.080And that was actually why, in large part, the German people were so receptive to his message because he and he was he actually, from what I recall, and I'll give Ryan the floor in a second so he can expand this.
00:15:56.300I'm sure he knows way more about this.
00:16:04.360He was trying to send them to other countries.
00:16:05.980But I would like to hear your thoughts on the kind of leading up to and kind of the and I'm not saying technically they deserve it.
00:16:13.620Obviously, we can get some LOLs if I said they did.
00:16:16.200But like, I just want to point out that what you just said is like basically the clip that Ryan got canceled the fuck out of a year ago over.
00:16:24.440Like, that's basically exactly what he said.
00:16:26.780So, yeah, I'd like to hear him like and then obviously you're not like what led up to it, the idea of it being some sort of Jewish coup.
00:16:33.740And that's to say all Jews, you could call it Zionist, whatever, some sort of elite cabal of Jewish people or mostly Jewish people that were kind of pulling the strings to make some sort of revolution occur in Germany.
00:16:44.720And Hitler kind of nipped that in the bud and then it and then to some extent no other nations wanted taking the Jews.
00:16:51.640And he kind of to some extent sort of got his hand forced, if you will.
00:16:56.060I mean, not saying it was OK what he did, but but yeah, I'll let Ryan dig it.
00:17:00.880Well, I mean, 100 percent Hitler was racist, but that wasn't unique in the 1930s.
00:17:06.440That was pretty much I mean, the U.S. still had racial segregation until the 60s, 20 years after World War Two.
00:17:14.040So you wait, Ryan, I thought the Civil War is like 10 years later, too.
00:17:18.120I thought the Civil War killed racism, though, Ryan.
00:17:21.920Yeah, that was the end of it, obviously.
00:17:25.860Yeah, I mean, after the Civil War, you had several northern states that continued black slavery and they just fought a war to end slavery.
00:17:32.820But they still have slavery after the war is over all the way until the 13th Amendment, because that's not what the war was about.
00:17:39.000But no, the Civil War may have made things worse, actually, especially for Native Americans.
00:17:46.080I mean, they got that was a genocide as well.
00:17:48.500It's something a young Hitler would have witnessed.
00:17:50.820You know, he was in World War One in 1905, six, seven.
00:17:54.980You're getting the Apache sent to Florida on trains to a concentration camp.
00:17:58.380Where they were, you know, rounded up and died and starved from Arizona to Florida.
00:18:11.040That happened, you know, while Hitler was alive.
00:18:13.540He did put people on trains and starting with non-Nazi Germans, the first camp, the first labor prison camp they opened was Dachau.
00:18:26.120The last people to be put in Dachau were Jews.
00:18:29.820The first people put in Dachau were anti-national socialist Germans, his resistance party.
00:18:36.860And it's a mixed bag because Hitler can point to, can point to some legitimate grievances with the Treaty of Versailles and having their land annexed and given to Poland and France and the corridor to Danzig and many things that happened in munition strikes in World War One.
00:18:53.980He has a point on some of these things.
00:18:57.560Just as Putin can say, rightfully, well, they attacked Donbass and murdered 13,000 ethnic Russians and all true.
00:19:04.820In addition to those legitimate grievances, there's a lot of propaganda and hatred, but I would say the majority of soldiers for the German military weren't doing it.
00:19:17.920They were not in the war because they hate Jews or even they hate communists.
00:19:57.000And as soon as Britain started bombing civilian cities, that really got a lot of people on the fence to go, well, oh, well, we've got to be against that.
00:20:31.340Yeah, it's like, as I said, they wanted Jews out of their country, which is also not unique.
00:20:37.240They're like 109 other places for that, but they were sending Jews to Palestine, which was like their third choice.
00:20:47.140But they landed on this one because, first of all, you had support from Zionist Jews that wanted an ethnic demographic majority in Palestine.
00:20:55.960There had been terrorism in Palestine all throughout the 30s, from 1929 all the way to 1948.
00:21:01.520And it was getting them out of Germany, and also they confiscated their property and their wealth, and so they'd end up there.
00:21:10.560And Hitler just wanted them out, wanted them out of the country, and Zionists wanted them in.
00:21:14.740They wanted them in Palestine, and it was a way of creating a huge headache for Britain, who Hitler was going to be at war with.
00:21:22.140And so the British would have to deal with a little civil war in one of their territories.
00:21:27.380Everyone always skips over the fact that, oh, yeah, Britain and France just colonize all these places and run these territories.
00:21:57.460And it's not like Hitler was fighting colonialism because he was standing up for the third world.
00:22:01.860He was fighting what he thought was his own living space in German national interest.
00:22:06.880But as a result, and this is the irony, the most evil man in history, Hitler, liberated over 80 countries from imperialism.
00:22:15.720Not that that's what he set out to do, but like the guy that wanted to have the Aryan dominance destroyed the French and British empires of white dominance.
00:23:05.200He believed in something he called providence.
00:23:08.160And I mean, he was raised Christian, but he sort of ended up his own, I don't know what you would call it.
00:23:12.960It's a mixture of the occult Christianity and his whatever, but he, he was his own thing.
00:23:18.860But yeah, he, he believed in a lot of Christian principles, but you have to understand a lot of Jews, they've been banned from owning land, from participating in certain types of businesses and stuff, sort of driven into certain niches.
00:23:31.800And so because of the Christian prejudice, the Jews, a lot of Jews are prejudiced to the Goy and they had a sense of ethnic nepotism.
00:23:43.600You know, once they got into a business, a newspaper or something, they'd only hire each other.
00:23:47.700And that kind of behavior makes everybody turn against you.
00:23:52.340Oh, you're only for your own little clique and you won't hire anyone else.
00:24:20.360Let me just say, let me just say, it's not dissimilar to what happens in, like, black communities in Atlanta, for instance, that they're well known for only hiring their own.
00:24:29.680And, like, because of the history that they had with slavery and things like that.
00:24:35.660I was going to say, I do want to put it in context.
00:24:39.060People hear us say things like the Jews or this or that.
00:24:42.880And, like, obviously we don't mean all.
00:24:44.980But if you look in a historical context, like a few hundred years ago, there were people killing each other, you know, over Catholics, Protestants, this, that.
00:24:53.800And it's like, yeah, obviously even in that context, not every single one of them.
00:24:57.280But, you know, if we're going to somewhat relatively for the sake of a convenient conversation, speak of them as a collective.
00:25:04.500And that's not to technically say every single one of them.
00:25:06.940There is, like, you can kind of sort of, you know, point these things out.
00:25:09.920And to think that somehow the Jews were above this is silly.
00:25:13.660Like, and yeah, today it's obviously like a blessing.
00:25:38.040But, I mean, obviously it was more extreme in the past.
00:25:40.920I hate libertarians, so I don't know what you're talking about.
00:25:42.880So, what is the, how was that same line of reasoning felt by the vast majority of Germans?
00:25:53.600Is that how Hitler was able to get them to agree with these laws that was, like, excommunicating them from society?
00:26:00.760Things were so bad after World War I that a lot of people were like, okay, anybody.
00:26:06.460I mean, it's kind of like, it's kind of like Joe Biden now.
00:26:10.300When you've got people grooming kids and flashing their dicks to six-year-olds and stuff, that a lot of people, even if somebody's toxic as Trump or whatever, they'd be like, yeah, I'll vote for you.
00:26:50.460But most of them were not on board with that.
00:26:52.700They're just, they were very afraid of communism, which was a legitimate threat, which was spreading throughout Europe.
00:26:58.520And Hitler believed in this shrinking markets theory.
00:27:03.480He thought that he needed larger living space so that he could have fossil fuel resources and agriculture and all the staples that you need.
00:27:12.700Otherwise, he'd always be dependent on what he called international finance capital.
00:30:37.880The first one in Poland has the gas van story, which is so ridiculous when you have a fuel shortage to kill people with gas vans like 20 at a time, which is also stupid.
00:31:33.000But it was not 6 million people and they did not gas and oven them all individually.
00:31:37.940They did burn bodies, but they just dug a pit outside, put hundreds of them in there at a time and burned them.
00:31:43.500And we know that because they confessed to it as photographed.
00:31:46.020Like, that's this story of all of them being cremated in 15 ovens that revisionists will go and, you know, nail the hell out of them and go, this is so stupid.
00:31:57.920But that narrative comes from Hollywood, not history.
00:32:01.820Historically, revisionists and orthodox, whatever, heterodox and orthodox historians agree, there were burn pits because we have fucking photos of the burn pits and all the bodies in them.
00:32:13.040Right. And you can't really count how many legs or whatever, but, you know, a lot.
00:32:19.640It's not 6 million, but I've heard different numbers from different historians and I've heard their arguments and I can give each argument.
00:32:25.960And I don't know who's right, because unfortunately, we're not allowed to have that dialogue.
00:33:54.680And that doesn't mean there isn't a gas chamber.
00:33:56.980It just means that building, Auschwitz one and two, those are definitely not gas chambers because there's so many problems with wooden doors and they're not hermetically sealed and drains and dah, dah, dah, dah.
00:34:25.820Like it's I don't know how you could debunk it harder than when it's been chemically shown, physically shown.
00:34:31.800The only evidence you have of those buildings being used as gas chambers is, you know, eyewitnesses who also said things like you could tell when there was a Hungarian Jew or a Polish Jew being burned because the smoke was different colors.
00:35:15.100OK, they did not have electric floors.
00:35:17.200They didn't bury people in pig shit and have other people do exercises on top of them until they smothered.
00:35:22.380There's so many stupid stories and slowly they just kind of stop saying them because it's just so ridiculous.
00:35:29.020And a lot of there are a lot of so-called survivors who lied, right?
00:35:34.140Like in the spinning squirrel, you've got you've got Rosen's that says he got an apple a day in Buchenwald and then later he's in Auschwitz.
00:35:43.460And I'm like, well, those are in different countries and different languages.
00:36:04.700Every single liar that is making money, profiting off of how other people actually suffered need to be called out and punished for it.
00:36:13.760Because every time you lie about a real event and every time you exaggerate about a real event, you're discrediting what all the suffering that did happen.
00:36:31.580But I do want to point out, and I don't think it's something that's really come up yet, the idea of war propaganda and how this affects it.
00:36:38.320Because I think a lot of people might be questioning, like, why?
00:37:00.340Yeah, I just wanted to add also, I certainly want to hear your answer to that.
00:37:04.080But I've really never researched this, to be honest.
00:37:06.920Like, I got taught about it in high school, and I just kind of fucking stuck with what I was taught.
00:37:11.140I've watched all the Hollywood movies, and I was like, eh, it seems plausible.
00:37:15.160You know, I don't need to dig any further.
00:37:16.980So, honestly, like, until I discovered you, like, a year ago, and everyone was like, obviously, you're canceled for having questioned any of this stuff.
00:37:25.680But that was the first time I even ever considered, like, okay, maybe there is some war propaganda involved with this.
00:37:32.320And it's funny, because in hindsight, like, I shouldn't, like, I know there's war propaganda in every fucking war, especially fucking the biggest wars.
00:37:43.200And I just wanted to say, it seems to me that many of these stories where, like, the – I watched the first hour of your documentary, or not yours, whoever made that.
00:37:56.240And to me, it seemed fairly reasonable just to write off some of these over-the-top stories, the lady that ate her diamonds every day, the guy who received an apple every day.
00:38:18.580She went up naked backwards and avoided the gas chamber.
00:38:21.740She had to eat her diamonds, which is not helping the stereotype.
00:38:24.060To me, it just seems like those can easily be written off as, well, like, if they were actually in the Holocaust, you know, if they were in one of the camps, it seems like, you know, you want to stand out.
00:38:37.140You want to have some sort of – because people do that with every aspect of life.
00:38:40.460Like, people – there's comics that have lied about having been in the towers on 9-11.
00:38:53.000Yeah, so it's just, like, that to me isn't enough evidence to go, like, okay, you know, just because these people lied, it's a slippery slope.
00:39:01.140It's like, well, just because there's a bunch of lying eyewitnesses and just because people are going to attach themselves to a big story, 100%.
00:39:08.600That doesn't mean it is or isn't true.
00:39:11.800It just means, okay, they're a whole bunch of liars.
00:41:21.220And so you can sit there and make fun of the people that say six million bodies are put in ovens because that is stupid and not even possible.
00:42:37.540There's a bunch of claims revisionists say that are also equally as stupid as some of the, you know, soap and lampshade bullshit that people say as well.
00:42:59.820So I just had a question because I've never heard anyone say.
00:43:04.080I mean, I'm sure there are some, but I've never heard anyone say that all six million were burned in ovens because there's like tons of mass shootings that happened in like Ukraine and Russia as they were invading.
00:43:14.800And then I think the numbers I've heard for Auschwitz where most of the gassing and ovens were was is like around a million is the figure I usually hear.
00:43:25.180But it well now it is around a million, but it was four million.
00:44:01.740Well, a lot of people didn't believe it when they said this.
00:44:06.740I mean, and they they're just like, no.
00:44:08.920Well, and it almost took the exaggerations, the shock value of soap and lampshades and stuff and the video footage of all these emaciated bodies to to get people to just drop logic and on an emotional level go, yeah, they killed millions and they gassed them.
00:44:26.440And they they're probably there were gassies, too.
00:44:29.640But what they'll say is, oh, they disguise them as shower heads.
00:44:32.380They have they just can't tell the truth.
00:44:34.980They have to exaggerate and go, oh, yeah, they they put them in the shower and they thought they were taking a shower and actually they got gas.
01:09:23.640They just out of a van and beat his ass and knocked him out cold on the concrete.
01:09:28.840And things got so bad for his life after he appeared on these shows of people trying to kill him, attacking him, not being able to work anywhere.
01:09:39.060So I was like, well, here's a black sheep.
01:10:19.640I mean, if you will not allow discussion on an event and will not allow, you only allow one answer, then that one answer has no credibility.
01:10:29.280Even if it is actually true, if you don't allow dissent at all, then how can we believe your claims, right?
01:10:38.580That's why you should be able to say whatever you want about COVID, about 9-11, and some of it's going to be ridiculous and dumb, but some of it isn't, right?
01:10:47.580And that's where the Holocaust should be, open dialogue.
01:10:52.020The best way to end these stupid arguments, like the Red Cross argument and stuff like that, is to have sunshine.
01:10:58.680Is to let someone like me go, no, that's wrong because.
01:11:06.800Because some of the things they're saying are right, yeah, but you're making fun of the kooks of the other side, and you're not listening to the other arguments of the Orthodox people.
01:11:19.880So a lot of the heteroxy and Orthodox historians don't disagree on very much, just on some numbers here and there.
01:11:27.440Like, none of them are saying soap and lampshades.
01:11:29.940Hey, we've got this tall buff individual in the bottom left-hand corner.
01:11:34.040He hasn't said much, so I was wondering if he has any input on anything.
01:11:38.560And my wife is taking a shower, so I'm on mute.
01:12:14.460So I've always wanted to get to the bottom of this simply because you actually brought this up earlier, even though it wasn't correlated to what I'm talking about.
01:12:24.080But I want to highlight the atrocities on both sides, and it's obvious that there was atrocities on both sides.
01:12:31.560So just from my vantage point, anytime you get this hagiography written, which is just a whitewashing of the victors in the war, I always question that.
01:12:42.620It's the same thing with the Civil War.
01:13:19.500You sound like Patton when he said, you know, we should have allied with the fascists against the communists instead of the communists against the fascists.
01:13:28.000I see how bad communist China is sometimes, and I think we picked the wrong team.
01:13:32.480I mean, on the real, this is going to sound really fucked up, but if we had just been like, okay, cool, send all your Jews, and then we ganged up with them against Russia.
01:13:39.940I mean, I'm not saying I'd be for it, but I mean, honestly, I think that would have been the better play if you're playing this game.
01:13:46.900Well, if you're going to pretend to be doing this on humanitarian terms, yes, it's incumbent upon you to accept either the Jewish people in World War II or the Ukrainians today, and we're doing neither, which is what we always do.
01:13:58.840We always just say, well, we're going to militarily defend you because that's how we actually make money, or at least that's how we get elected.
01:14:05.600But the whole narrative of entering the war to save the Jews, that hasn't existed until long after the war like that.
01:14:11.920I mean, that was certainly not a thought before we got into the war.
01:14:14.120It's a postdoc justification, but you can't enter the war to save occupied Poland because after the war, Poland is now occupied by the Soviets instead of fascists.
01:14:23.420It's still occupied. It's not independent of Poland. So you got it from that reason, and the Holocaust becomes the reason.
01:14:30.340So many people don't even know that Germans actually declared war on us after we declared war on Japan.
01:14:36.420So the entire narrative that we got into the war to end the Holocaust really doesn't make sense.
01:14:41.340Right. And the only reason that the American people were behind it was because of Pearl Harbor, correct?
01:14:44.940Correct. Which was not a surprise attack. They knew that was coming.
01:14:48.100No, I think there's a lot of evidence to prove that, that it wasn't.
01:14:51.220The SS ward fired on a Japanese submarine before any of the aerial bombardment began.
01:14:55.880So they definitely knew it was coming. They had broken the codes.
01:14:58.280They knew that too from the McCullen memo and the oil embargo on Japan.
01:15:02.320Like they wanted to go to war with the Pacific.
01:15:04.640The U.S. had been marching that direction all, you know, since the Spanish-American war and taking over the Philippines, right?
01:15:09.380And Guam. And why is Pearl Harbor in Hawaii? Hawaii's not a state.
01:15:12.980They're not part of the United States, but there's a military base for America there anyway.
01:15:23.280Yeah, well, I mean, the main reason that I get so uppity about the World War II topic is because it's one of the best examples, in my opinion, of the precarious path when it comes to sanctions and embargoes.
01:15:38.220And this is why I bring it up so often is because of what we're doing to Russia right now, which is a fucking nuclear power with 2,000 nukes or whatever the fuck it is.
01:15:49.080But if you try and, you know, if you have this hagiography written about World War II where it has nothing to do with the embargo, it's a surprise attack, and we're saving the Jews, and it has nothing to do with anything else, well, then you don't get to learn the lessons of why we ended up in that war in the first place.
01:19:43.000It isn't, we're more on an even eye-to-eye now, but the colonial powers looked at the entire non-white world as just, with the exception of East Asia, maybe.
01:19:55.140They just, they didn't give any credence to Africa, the Middle East, Latin America.
01:19:58.840Those are just places to be conquered.
01:20:00.700And those people don't even know how to use their own stuff.
01:28:03.980And he had challenged these goons who had, you know, murdered people while they're sleeping and things.
01:28:11.440And when he went to the courthouse, unarmed in the courthouse, they shot him in the back.
01:28:16.940And that sort of really lit a fire under the rest of the people who were trying to do strikes, legitimate strikes and protests, turned into an armed rebellion.
01:28:27.560Where they went across the county and up the mountain fighting with federal troops who even used the Air Force against them.
01:28:42.860And they wore this red bandana around their necks.
01:28:47.460Because when you're fighting coal mine and coal mine and all the soot and caves and going up a mountain, you got to be able to think what they didn't have any forms.
01:28:58.500So they used the red bandana on their neck.
01:29:10.800And used over a million rounds of ammunition, killed FBI agents, or what the equivalent of, killed the PI agents and killed federal troops.
01:29:45.320Because these people deserved it, right?
01:29:48.120They rebelled and went after their masters.
01:29:52.800And the federal group, you know, the troops were brought in to suppress that too.
01:29:56.200And so you're seeing these strikes, mainly from coal, timber, you know, resource, tough type of jobs, of people being paid in script and just being used and exploited.
01:30:38.600It was a rebellion of the working class that fought hard to get labor rights to be paid in real money, not script, which did happen.
01:30:46.620So I always point out to people, we didn't gain our labor rights in our eight hour day and ending child labor and being paid real money by running around D.C. wearing pink pussy hats.
01:30:58.780We got it from rednecks with guns shooting the federal government.
01:41:38.640Like Paul said, it wasn't, I mean, it was not very Tower Gang-esque, actually.
01:41:43.100It was rather not offensive in comparison to most episodes we've had.
01:41:46.880And I will never be covering this on my show.
01:41:49.640So, if you guys want to, if you're just, if you're just logging on and watching right now, re-watch this episode, because I will never be talking about it.
01:41:58.960But, thanks to everyone for doing it, especially you, Ryan.
01:42:13.600My plug is that I'm not even here right now, and I would recommend that you go and support the work over at ANCReport.com, because there is someone on this panel that is actually brave enough to talk about this shit, and I am not that guy.
01:42:28.980Six million and one, obviously, is the answer.
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