Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - A Champion's Welcome at NCAA Wrestling, Plus Interviews with Sen McCormick & Eric Deters | TRIGGERED Ep.227

00:06:26.000 Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.

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00:06:34.000 As I keep saying, this is the 80-20 presidency.

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00:10:10.000 Okay, guys, joining me now, co-author of Who Believed in You, which he wrote with his wife, Dina, Pennsylvania Senator Dave McCormick.

00:10:18.000 Dave, good to have you back, buddy.

00:10:20.000 Hey, Don.

00:10:21.000 Good to be with you.

00:10:22.000 So I guess I'll start by noting that Pennsylvania was truly the keystone state, not just in name, but in the November election this last time around.

00:10:31.000 You had an incredible campaign defeating a very well-entrenched political machine, and Bob Casey's been there for, like, longer than I've been alive.

00:10:41.000 30 years, yeah.

00:10:43.000 Okay, fine.

00:10:44.000 I'm a little older, but, you know.

00:10:46.000 But basically, most of my life that I remember, at least.

00:10:50.000 How is all of that translating into strategy and momentum in the United States Senate?

00:10:55.000 Obviously, you know, the way we look at a map in advance.

00:10:58.000 You know, this was the last kind of cycle.

00:11:00.000 We had a chance to, like, make some gains.

00:11:02.000 Although, you know, there's looking like there could be some other stuff coming on right now that didn't look quite as favorably two years ago.

00:11:09.000 What are you seeing in all of that in the Senate?

00:11:12.000 Yeah, well, I mean, it was, as you said, it was just an epic campaign.

00:11:16.000 And as you recall, it was my second one.

00:11:18.000 I had lost a close one by 900 votes.

00:11:21.000 And this one...

00:11:22.000 You know, your dad obviously spent a lot of time on Pennsylvania.

00:11:27.000 I think he was there 15 times.

00:11:29.000 And I was with him every single time.

00:11:31.000 And so I had a chance to campaign with him across the Commonwealth.

00:11:36.000 And a couple of things were happening.

00:11:38.000 It was a change election where your dad and I were talking about the same things, but essentially getting the country back on track, getting the economy back on track, inflation wildly out of control, a border wildly out of control, 4,000 fentanyl deaths, this incredible fight and attack on fossil fuels, which is incredibly damaging for Pennsylvania, law and disorder in our cities.

00:12:03.000 So your dad ran on that.

00:12:05.000 Change agenda, and I ran on that with him, and that resonated.

00:12:09.000 That was the first thing.

00:12:10.000 And of course, because your dad mobilizes people, the turnout was fantastic.

00:12:15.000 That was a big deal.

00:12:17.000 The second big deal is Pennsylvania's becoming red.

00:12:21.000 You know, we made huge progress in voter registration.

00:12:24.000 We made huge progress with mail-in ballot.

00:12:28.000 Your dad was part of that.

00:12:29.000 We put a huge amount of money into that.

00:12:31.000 And the reason I call that out is because that's going to be important for the future in terms of making sure Pennsylvania continues to be in the red column and the coalition your dad built.

00:12:43.000 Which was great turnout of African Americans, Hispanics, Jewish voters in Pennsylvania, the trade unions.

00:12:50.000 I'm at a trade union facility today, and the trades probably voted 65-70% for your dad and for me, despite the fact that the Nationals had endorsed Harris and Casey.

00:13:02.000 So it's that combination of things that led to the victory.

00:13:07.000 And in one sentence, I think the key to our success is delivering on the promises.

00:13:12.000 And your dad is, you know, going in a million miles an hour.

00:13:15.000 The rest of us are trying to keep up with him.

00:13:17.000 But that agenda that he promised and that I promised, we got to deliver on it.

00:13:21.000 And that's what's happening.

00:13:22.000 Yeah, I think it's a really good point.

00:13:24.000 I mean, you mentioned, you know, the first time you ran, you lost by 900 votes over the entire state of Pennsylvania, guys.

00:13:29.000 Just so we understand, like, these are, you know, basis points.

00:13:33.000 You know, right now, one of the things I got to actually just use this as an opportunity to create a little bit of awareness up in Wisconsin.

00:13:40.000 There's a really important Supreme Court seat that's coming up.

00:13:42.000 I guess it's like the first week in April.

00:13:44.000 And our people right now are just they're happy.

00:13:47.000 Like we're getting stuff done.

00:13:48.000 Doge is cutting the nonsense.

00:13:49.000 We're you know, we're winning.

00:13:50.000 We're trying to get peace talks going.

00:13:52.000 You know, so our people are sort of sitting there.

00:13:53.000 So you have this new Supreme Court race in Wisconsin that could literally tip the Supreme Court, which would then lead to redistricting, which could cost us two seats.

00:14:02.000 No one in Wisconsin that's conservative, basically.

00:14:06.000 You know, knows about it.

00:14:07.000 I went up there with Charlie Kirk, you know, last week on Monday, and it was like, I mean, the people were super excited about what was going on, but like so few people realized that, oh my God, like this could be a tipping point.

00:14:18.000 It's literally like the keystone of the Supreme Court.

00:14:21.000 It doesn't go right or left, which is going to be a major decision.

00:14:24.000 You have a radical leftist that wants men and women's sports, doesn't want us deporting, you know, criminal murderers and illegals. 0.97

00:14:31.000 And it's like...

00:14:33.000 They don't even know because they're happy with what we're doing.

00:14:34.000 We have two races in Florida for both Mike Waltz and Matt Gaetz replacing those special elections also in April in Florida.

00:14:41.000 And we got polling back.

00:14:42.000 And it's like, if the districts knew that there was a special election, we'd win in a minute.

00:14:48.000 But there's two seats, like the old Matt Gaetz seat and the old Mike Waltz seat, that we could lose because people aren't even thinking about it.

00:14:57.000 They're not paying attention.

00:14:58.000 So that's a note to any of you.

00:14:59.000 If you know people in those districts, And you know I'm up in Wisconsin.

00:15:02.000 Make sure they get out and vote.

00:15:04.000 Because, like you said, an entire Senate seat could be lost by 900 votes over a big state like Pennsylvania.

00:15:10.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:15:11.000 And your dad helped us all by getting out the vote.

00:15:15.000 And he mobilized people and other people on the ballot were the beneficiaries.

00:15:21.000 That's not going to happen in the future.

00:15:23.000 Correct. Without Trump at the top of the ballot, it's not quite the same.

00:15:25.000 There are literally like...

00:15:27.000 Single vote Trump people, and we've got to not do that because every time you don't vote because Trump's not on the ticket, it doesn't matter.

00:15:35.000 There's a Democrat out there voting for someone whose agenda it is to make sure he doesn't get anything done.

00:15:40.000 So we have to stay engaged.

00:15:42.000 You're so right.

00:15:43.000 And in my case, there were seven swing states.

00:15:47.000 And we lost the Senate race in all six except Pennsylvania.

00:15:52.000 And your dad has a funny riff on this because he's introduced me a number of times.

00:15:58.000 He says, you know, I didn't think he could win.

00:16:00.000 I didn't know he could win.

00:16:02.000 And I won by 15,000 votes.

00:16:06.000 So just to your point, I mean, in these swing states, and I'm the 53rd vote, if I'm not there, Pete Hegseth doesn't get confirmed.

00:16:17.000 Yeah, no, 100%.

00:16:18.000 I mean, they had to, you know, I was dealing with that one heavily that day, too, from people on our own side.

00:16:23.000 They're like, well, we're just not, we're going to do your family a favor.

00:16:26.000 And I'm like, that's not helping my family.

00:16:27.000 I promise you.

00:16:28.000 Like, you know, not voting for our cabinet.

00:16:30.000 It's not doing my family a favor because that was the, you know, overusing the keystone.

00:16:35.000 But that was the keystone for all the other people behind it.

00:16:38.000 That was the first confirmation.

00:16:39.000 You lose that one.

00:16:40.000 All of a sudden, you know, the rhinos in the Senate become emboldened and they don't vote for anyone.

00:16:44.000 And you're stuck with that.

00:16:45.000 You end up with.

00:16:46.000 You know, like a first administration-type cabinet instead of the group of rock stars that we have right now.

00:16:51.000 That's right.

00:16:52.000 No, to your point, we've got to stay focused on solidifying what I say is solidifying the coalition that President Trump won with in 2024.

00:17:03.000 And in Pennsylvania, I'm working hard to do that.

00:17:06.000 And, you know, just what you said, I think it's going out on offense every day.

00:17:11.000 Here is the mandate for change, and we're delivering on the promises.

00:17:16.000 A good example of that.

00:17:18.000 When you see what's happening, it's clear that our spending is a runaway freight train, but our bureaucracy is a runaway freight train.

00:17:27.000 It's taken on a life of its own.

00:17:28.000 It's made decisions that are completely at odds with our voters.

00:17:32.000 And people say to me, well...

00:17:34.000 But there's a lot of good spending in there.

00:17:36.000 I'm sure there is good spending, but it's like when you go into a good restaurant and you lift up the plate.

00:17:41.000 At this point, I'm too much of a cynic.

00:17:43.000 There's probably not a lot of good spending.

00:17:44.000 There's some good spending.

00:17:45.000 But you lift up the plate in a good restaurant and you see a cockroach and it makes you not want to eat anything in the restaurant.

00:17:52.000 You lose faith.

00:17:53.000 And what I think is happening from Doge is that the American people are seeing some crazy stuff that their taxpayer dollars are being spent on.

00:18:02.000 They're saying, I have lost faith.

00:18:04.000 In the ability of this bureaucracy, these bureaucracies across the different departments, to allocate my precious tax dollars in a way that makes sense to me.

00:18:13.000 And you can't do this.

00:18:15.000 I mean, I was a CEO of two companies, Don.

00:18:17.000 You can't do this incrementally, 2% of the time.

00:18:19.000 You've got to be bold.

00:18:21.000 You've got to make drastic changes, and I think that's what's happening.

00:18:24.000 Yeah, for those who don't know, I mean, Dave was a serious business guy, very high level, dealt with real stuff.

00:18:30.000 One of the few people probably in the Senate that...

00:18:32.000 Actually understands how real business works, how the entire systems are there.

00:18:36.000 So, you know, I guess that maybe that leads me to sort of the next question.

00:18:40.000 Last week, you saw Chuck Schumer, I guess he was on The View saying, I mean, you know, people, they don't want to give the government half of their money.

00:18:48.000 Like, it's almost like they earned it without us.

00:18:51.000 And I'm like...

00:18:51.000 Oh, my God.

00:18:52.000 Like, he really thinks the government is like a 50-50 party.

00:18:55.000 Like, I don't know.

00:18:56.000 Government hasn't helped me much.

00:18:57.000 I know the government's tried suing me a bunch of times.

00:18:59.000 I know they've deposed me a lot.

00:19:00.000 So, you know, I guess they've built a couple of roads.

00:19:03.000 But, like, other than that, I don't think they've done all that much for me that, you know, is worth half of what I bring home.

00:19:10.000 But... It seemed like such a terrible mentality.

00:19:13.000 I mean, why would you want to create efficiency?

00:19:17.000 I mean, you don't deserve the choice of what to do with the money that you give us because you didn't earn anything without us.

00:19:25.000 And it's like, oh my god, they're saying it out loud.

00:19:28.000 It's like, Obama, you didn't build that.

00:19:31.000 It's like, actually...

00:19:33.000 I know they didn't build it.

00:19:34.000 It's the government because they've been too focused on Trans Elmo in Guatemala and Gay Sesame Street in Iraq for real.

00:19:45.000 Where do we go?

00:19:47.000 First of all, I think it's just that contrast between a guy who spent his entire life in politics and you grow up in the government and you're a hammer looking for a nail.

00:19:58.000 You think the government's the answer to everything.

00:20:00.000 You lose touch versus a businessman.

00:20:02.000 Like your dad who has a whole life of career of success of tough choices that can come in and say this is madness or Elon Musk who can say it's madness or somebody like me.

00:20:11.000 It's so antithetical, so crazy compared to the world that we know that you start to question everything.

00:20:18.000 I think that's the first thing.

00:20:19.000 The second thing that's happened is this progressive.

00:20:23.000 Ideology, it's become entrenched.

00:20:25.000 It's become ingrained in our government.

00:20:29.000 And it's one of the reasons when I was campaigning with your dad, I would say, and it's starting to happen, you not only need to downsize the government, you need to take these pieces of the government and move it out of Washington.

00:20:39.000 You need to put the Department of Energy in Pittsburgh, right?

00:20:42.000 Because that's where it's going to be in touch with the people it's actually trying.

00:20:47.000 And I think what happened with Chuck Schumer is just an example of why the Democrats keep fighting your dad on 80-20 issues.

00:20:57.000 And the reason they're fighting on 80-20 issues, which 80% of Republicans are with your dad, 87% of the country is with your dad, is because they're only hanging around with the 20%.

00:21:06.000 That's the world they live in is the 20%. 1.00

00:21:09.000 And that's why the Democratic Party, unless it has a real come to Jesus, is going to be lost for the next generation.

00:21:16.000 So, you know, I guess, you know, maybe the one guy, you know, on the Democrat side that sometimes actually speaks a little common sense is actually, you know, the counter co-part of the, I guess, the elder statesman in the Senate, even though he's only there, you know, a couple, two years before you, you know, John Fetterman.

00:21:35.000 Every once in a while he makes sense, and I made a lot of fun of him because I watched that debate with us, and I'm like, wow, this guy felt brain dead at the time, and maybe he wasn't, maybe he's recovered a little bit, maybe.

00:21:45.000 Maybe he's smart enough to tell people what they want to hear, which the Democrats often do.

00:21:49.000 They tell them what they want to hear and then they go do whatever sort of the special interests tell them.

00:21:53.000 But, you know, he has at times stood out as a reasonable voice in the Democrat Party, although when it comes time to vote, it's often a very different story.

00:22:03.000 You know, what's your relationship?

00:22:05.000 Like with the senior senator from the state of Pennsylvania, John Fetterman.

00:22:08.000 We're off to a good start.

00:22:10.000 We went and sat down and talked early in the first couple weeks, and he basically is very candid.

00:22:15.000 I trust him.

00:22:15.000 I think he's a very authentic guy.

00:22:17.000 I don't think he'll surprise me.

00:22:19.000 And he basically said, listen, we disagree on a lot, but there's a lot we agree on.

00:22:23.000 And he goes, I'm at the point in my life I almost died.

00:22:26.000 You know, like, I just want to get stuff done.

00:22:29.000 I mean, I'm not worried about...

00:22:31.000 You know, the politics so much is getting what I believe done.

00:22:35.000 And so on Israel, on anti-Semitism, on supporting your dad, for example, on taking the $400 million from Colombia, he has been a voice of reason on manufacturing jobs in Pennsylvania.

00:22:48.000 He is a voice of reason.

00:22:50.000 You know, he was the first co-sponsor.

00:22:52.000 I just introduced a fentanyl bill.

00:22:54.000 That was one of the things I promised to create this focused multi-agency task force that would bring the focus and the accountability to China and Mexico and others.

00:23:04.000 He was the co-sponsor of the bill with me.

00:23:07.000 He says, listen, this fentanyl thing is out of control.

00:23:10.000 He supported your dad on the border where he said, listen, every month we have at least – no, every week rather.

00:23:16.000 We have the size of Pittsburgh coming across our border.

00:23:21.000 That's madness.

00:23:22.000 So on a lot of things, he seems to be in the right place, and I think he's going to be a good partner.

00:23:27.000 And some things we just totally disagree, and we just said, listen, we're not going to agree on everything.

00:23:31.000 So I think he's going to be a good partner.

00:23:34.000 He's still a Democrat, and he still believes a number of things on economic policy that I think are not what I believe, but I think he's a good, authentic man.

00:23:44.000 Well, listen, you obviously know a lot about economic policy.

00:23:46.000 You were in banking for a long time at a really high level, very successful.

00:23:50.000 So, you know, specifically, I know you're doing sort of a lot of work on, you know, the debanking with the Biden administration, really weaponizing the idea of reputational risk to basically almost incentivize banks to target conservatives.

00:24:04.000 How do we end that insanity once and for all?

00:24:07.000 I mean, I imagine anyone who's watching this show has dealt with it.

00:24:10.000 Anyone who's tried to buy a gun has dealt with it.

00:24:12.000 Anyone, you know, I mean, you were targeted by banks if you bought Bibles or anything model-related or within 1,500 miles of DC on January 6th.

00:24:19.000 How do you deal with it?

00:24:21.000 Because it does feel it was a totally one-sided attack on conservatives around the country.

00:24:29.000 It was definitely promoted and incentivized by the Democrats.

00:24:32.000 Yeah, well, there's legislation that Senator Scott just proposed to essentially take the whole idea of reputational risk off the table.

00:24:40.000 That's essentially what happened, which is we just had a closed hearing with the bank CEOs and with a bunch of regulators.

00:24:45.000 The regulators would factor in this thing they called reputational risk, and they'd give advice to the banks.

00:24:53.000 You know, you have to debank people based on that.

00:24:55.000 Of course, the banks weren't exactly a profile in Courage here either.

00:24:59.000 No, no, but if you were a trans-communist, you could have a credit score of negative 900 and like, wow, we'll give you a loan. 0.93

00:25:06.000 I mean, who cares if you don't pay it back or ever have the ability to do it?

00:25:09.000 We have to check off that box.

00:25:10.000 It was total BS, by the way.

00:25:12.000 Exactly. You got fault on both sides.

00:25:14.000 You have regulators pushing this idea.

00:25:16.000 You have banks succumbing to the pressure and just capitulating.

00:25:19.000 And so we've got to basically hold banks.

00:25:26.000 We have to take that off the table as an issue for banks.

00:25:36.000 And listen, I think there's been a lot of bad behavior across the board on this.

00:25:41.000 I think this was part of a broader woke agenda.

00:25:46.000 That was internalized by a lot of corporate CEOs.

00:25:50.000 They failed to stand up to this political pressure and they got themselves in a place where it was absolutely indefensible.

00:25:59.000 I did this meeting the other day with the Business Roundtable.

00:26:04.000 It was like 200 CEOs and they asked me, what advice do you have for CEOs?

00:26:08.000 I said, well, listen, let's be honest.

00:26:10.000 Nobody has to say anything.

00:26:11.000 Let's just be honest.

00:26:12.000 If all of you...

00:26:14.000 Could look back on the last five years and how you dealt with the culture wars and wokeness and all that stuff.

00:26:21.000 Wouldn't you want to do over?

00:26:23.000 Didn't you all handle that for the most part terribly?

00:26:25.000 There's some exceptions.

00:26:26.000 But didn't you for the most part handle that terribly?

00:26:29.000 And there was nobody who stood up and said, yes, I handled it terribly.

00:26:32.000 But I think the consensus was that they lost their way.

00:26:38.000 And banking was just another example of that.

00:26:44.000 Good behavior and hold them accountable when they're bad.

00:26:46.000 I think that's so important and something that definitely means a lot to so many of the people that watch this show because they've gone through it, including myself.

00:26:53.000 Last week on Capitol Hill, you also had, I guess, National Agriculture Week.

00:26:58.000 So Pennsylvania, along with many other key states like Wisconsin and Ohio, really have critical farming sectors.

00:27:05.000 How vital is it and how do we protect these industries and protect the American businesses around that, whether it be, again, from crippling regulations, foreign acquisition?

00:27:16.000 It seems to be such a big part of the Maha movement making America healthy, again, doing it organically with small farms, without big ag, without the chemicals in there.

00:27:25.000 How do we promote and get those businesses really rolling?

00:27:30.000 Oh, you're so right in Pennsylvania.

00:27:32.000 It's a $160 billion industry.

00:27:34.000 It's the number one industry in Pennsylvania, and it's the biggest employer.

00:27:37.000 And so we got poultry, we got broilers, we got egg layers, we got hog farmers, we got across the continuum.

00:27:44.000 And so, number one, food security is absolutely critical.

00:27:49.000 We learned during COVID.

00:27:51.000 What it was like to be dependent on China for semiconductors or for pharmaceuticals.

00:27:56.000 Man, we gotta control the food supply.

00:27:58.000 So we gotta own those farms. 0.97

00:28:00.000 China has been on a rampage of acquiring farmland.

00:28:05.000 One of the things I said in the campaign, in fact, your dad was there.

00:28:07.000 We had an ag event.

00:28:09.000 We both talked about not letting China and restricting China and other countries through the CFIUS process of buying, you know, the foreign investment process of buying farmland.

00:28:20.000 We've got to make sure foreign competition. 1.00

00:28:24.000 Is on a fair playing field.

00:28:26.000 This is where your dad's concept of reciprocity and trade is really important.

00:28:30.000 I was there the night that he hosted Trudeau at Mar-a-Lago.

00:28:34.000 I was at the table.

00:28:36.000 And Trudeau was saying, you know, listen, after they got through the 51st state thing, Trudeau was saying, listen, we're open to U.S. goods.

00:28:42.000 And I said, well, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:28:44.000 Let's talk about dairy.

00:28:45.000 I'm from Pennsylvania, right?

00:28:47.000 So our dairy farmers can't sell any milk into Canada.

00:28:52.000 Because of all the non-tariff barriers.

00:28:54.000 Yeah, it's like almost 250%, right?

00:28:56.000 Yes. But what they do is, it's a catchy thing in the law, and the media doesn't do it. 0.86

00:29:01.000 I think the first case of milk, there's like a 3% tariff.

00:29:04.000 So you're like, okay, fine.

00:29:05.000 That seems reasonable.

00:29:06.000 Every case after that is like 250%.

00:29:09.000 So they basically, no, it's a 3% tariff.

00:29:11.000 It's like, no, no, no.

00:29:12.000 It's a 3% tariff if you only send one case of milk, right?

00:29:15.000 Exactly. It's something like Axanine like that.

00:29:17.000 It's not even an exaggeration.

00:29:18.000 Free security, stop foreign investment.

00:29:23.000 Make sure our farmers got a fair shot around the world.

00:29:27.000 And make sure we got good farm policy.

00:29:30.000 You know, Brooke Rollins, the Ag Secretary your dad selected, is just fantastic. 0.57

00:29:35.000 I talked to her yesterday.

00:29:36.000 She's coming to Pennsylvania in the next week or so.

00:29:39.000 She is going to be a leader on this, and she knows.

00:29:44.000 The kind of support our farmers are going to need to remain competitive and protect our food supply.

00:29:48.000 And, you know, I'm with you on the Make America Healthy Again movement.

00:29:53.000 I think that's a huge part of doing a lot of things, including reducing our health care costs, which, as you know, are ballooning out of control.

00:30:00.000 Yeah, but yeah, you get people healthy with natural foods, you're not having to take care of them forever, which, you know, doesn't exactly please everyone, but should please Americans.

00:30:09.000 Exactly. Dave, what steps do you think the Senate can take or, you know, how can you work with the executive branch to solidify some of our key supply chains?

00:30:17.000 You know, it's sort of interesting to me that if an American company wants to make a big acquisition in China or Europe, they push back on it.

00:30:23.000 It's basically impossible.

00:30:25.000 Try buying a Ford in China, whatever it may be.

00:30:27.000 Try manufacturing, you know, other than for export, which is also terrible.

00:30:32.000 For how far and for how long have we just let this go unchecked?

00:30:37.000 How do you get that back?

00:30:38.000 You had an incredible career in the private sector, in the banking sector.

00:30:42.000 What has that taught you about how government can address and encourage business instead of trying to undermine it?

00:30:49.000 Well, listen, I think the idea of bringing back Good paying jobs, good men.

00:30:56.000 You know, I grew up, listen, I grew up in a house where my mom and dad had both gone to college and got master's degrees and doctor degrees.

00:31:03.000 So I grew up thinking the only path to a career and a good life and so forth is to go to college.

00:31:09.000 And I have learned that college is probably not the right thing for even half the people, maybe a lot less, that there's great careers, great opportunity and skilled labor in making things.

00:31:20.000 And in America... 0.98

00:31:21.000 Due to decades of stupid policy, we've lost the capacity to make things. 0.99

00:31:27.000 We've lost the capacity because we've let foreign companies essentially savage our industries because of subsidies they've had or unfair trading practices or unfair labor standards. 0.99

00:31:40.000 We've let these skills diminish because we don't support with the GI Bill.

00:31:46.000 Skilled labor.

00:31:47.000 We don't support with Pell grants.

00:31:49.000 Skilled labor.

00:31:49.000 The kinds of things where a kid can go and become a welder and have an $80,000, $100,000 a year job in their early 30s, which helps them do whatever they want in terms of owning a house, the American dream.

00:32:01.000 So your dad is very much on the case.

00:32:03.000 It's going to require multiple things.

00:32:05.000 It's going to require getting control of inflation.

00:32:08.000 Because these businesses can't prosper if inflation continues to chew away at their profit.

00:32:14.000 It means fair trading practices, reciprocity, like your dad talks about, making sure the American worker gets a fair deal.

00:32:19.000 They get a fair deal, they're going to compete over and over again in a way that wins business.

00:32:24.000 Making sure we double down on skilled labor.

00:32:27.000 These great opportunities for a skilled workforce.

00:32:30.000 I'm trying to make a big focus, and your dad has promised to help me.

00:32:34.000 Of making Pennsylvania the place that energy and these big AI data centers come together.

00:32:39.000 Because welders, pipe fitters, steam fitters, those jobs that go along with those data centers are enormous.

00:32:45.000 Philadelphia Shipyard is another area where your dad's made a big focus and I'll make it a big focus.

00:32:50.000 These are the things we need to do to make sure that that manufacturing base, advanced manufacturing, becomes much more vibrant.

00:32:58.000 That's 100% right.

00:33:00.000 And, you know, I think you're right.

00:33:01.000 There's so many people that went to college and then they expect the plumber that did do the thing responsibly, that didn't take on, you know, half a million dollars to, you know, get a degree in gender studies, that, you know, did something that can actually pay out.

00:33:11.000 And then they want them to pay for the education that they sat there and wasted.

00:33:15.000 It's an incredible mentality, but I guess it's just so indicative of the left right now.

00:33:19.000 Yeah, no, that was a good one because you go on the campaign trail and you talk about loan forgiveness for these people, what the four-year college is and everything else, and the people paying for it are people that either paid off their loans or chose not to go to college and pursue a trade.

00:33:35.000 It was just absolute madness.

00:33:37.000 Again, it's an 80-20 issue.

00:33:38.000 Yeah, well, the irony was that the ones who couldn't figure out how to get by and couldn't figure out how to pay their loans.

00:33:45.000 They're the ones that consider themselves the elites.

00:33:47.000 I'm like, I don't know.

00:33:47.000 You don't seem that elite.

00:33:48.000 Like, you're a grown-ass person. 0.66

00:33:49.000 They can't take care of themselves.

00:33:51.000 I don't know.

00:33:52.000 Not all that elite after all.

00:33:56.000 I'd like to see them change some pipes in their house or something like that because then you'd see how far less elite they actually are.

00:34:01.000 I don't want to talk too much because I'm afraid if there was a pipe to be changed in my house, my wife.

00:34:05.000 My wife would be stuck. 1.00

00:34:09.000 The one thing that I have going for me from that perspective, I don't do much of it anymore, but just coming from a real estate family, my dad's whole thing was like, hey, if you're going to build a building, you better damn well know how to do it.

00:34:20.000 So we worked on jobs.

00:34:21.000 I've done all of it.

00:34:23.000 I'm probably not as good as I used to be, but I can do it all.

00:34:25.000 That's good.

00:34:26.000 That's good.

00:34:27.000 So Dave, as we look abroad, how do you sort of define the Trump doctrine?

00:34:31.000 What do you see as sort of the foreign policy mission?

00:34:34.000 We're seeing...

00:34:34.000 Countries in Western Europe attacking J.D. Vance, going after my father over Ukraine and Russia, while so many of these countries are just opening up their borders, destroying, essentially, in my opinion, their civilization, pushing censorship and eliminating free speech entirely.

00:34:50.000 How do you see it, and how do we stop that from metastasizing all over the world?

00:34:55.000 Yeah, you know, I've been thinking about that a lot within the context of the debate over Ukraine and all these other things.

00:35:01.000 And I think, you know, I listen very carefully to what your dad says.

00:35:04.000 I think there's some basic tenets that I hear him say over and over again, which I think define it, at least in my mind.

00:35:11.000 Number one is the concept, and I think it's absolutely critical, is peace through strength.

00:35:17.000 And the notion that America is going to be the most powerful economically, the most powerful.

00:35:23.000 Lethal military in the world, but a country that is going to use that power, military and economic, very judiciously, very carefully in pursuit of America's interest.

00:35:37.000 So the connection between what we do abroad and how it helps people at home is unequivocally clear to everybody.

00:35:43.000 That's the first tenet.

00:35:44.000 I think the second tenet is a fairness.

00:35:47.000 We talked about this in the context of trade, but it's in geopolitics, in military affairs, national security.

00:35:55.000 The idea that if America is going to offer its protection, if America is going to be the source of stability in Asia, in the South China Sea, or in Europe, is the foundation of NATO, that those with whom we protect, those with whom we ally...

00:36:11.000 Need to do their fair share.

00:36:13.000 They need to step up.

00:36:14.000 And deals we made 40 or 50 years ago to help people get off their backs after World War II are not the right deal of today.

00:36:21.000 And that the idea of entitlement that so many countries have around the world in their relationship with the United States, that connection has to be broken.

00:36:32.000 That's the second.

00:36:32.000 And the third is I hear your dad.

00:36:35.000 Laying out a vision in the United States of what common sense policy looks like in terms of creating a vibrant economy, in terms of making sure the American taxpayer are well protected, essentially getting rid of that progressive ideology that's entrenched itself.

00:36:52.000 And I think the other countries around the world, particularly in Europe, are many years, maybe decades behind.

00:36:58.000 Where that entrenched economic socialist philosophy or that progressive ideology is going to destroy their countries unless they are able to make the same turn.

00:37:09.000 And you see bright spots.

00:37:11.000 You see bright spots of conservatism popping up.

00:37:14.000 And I think those three pieces, we're going to project our ideals abroad by what we do at home.

00:37:18.000 We're going to have peace through strength, but with a focus on America first.

00:37:23.000 And we're going to make sure our allies step up and are true friends and allies, not entitled countries that take advantage of the United States.

00:37:31.000 That, to me, is what our president is talking about.

00:37:35.000 I think you were with him this last weekend.

00:37:40.000 You have a new column out about growing up in central Pennsylvania and the lessons you learned wrestling.

00:37:45.000 You wrestled at West Point.

00:37:47.000 Talk more about that and how did it relate to your book and how it's shaped your worldview.

00:37:53.000 Yeah, you know, I'm so glad.

00:37:55.000 I'm so glad your dad came for the Nationals here.

00:37:57.000 He had gone in Oklahoma.

00:37:58.000 This is the NCAA Division I Championship for college wrestling.

00:38:04.000 And, you know, during the campaign, the Penn State wrestling team is the best Division I sports team in history.

00:38:10.000 11 national championships in the last 13 years came up on the stage with him.

00:38:15.000 So your dad...

00:38:16.000 I grew up, you know, a part of Pennsylvania, you know, up near Scranton, wrestling in hot, smelly high school gyms called Shickalimmy and Shickshinny and Skooklehaven and Sealands Grove.

00:38:32.000 And man, you learn.

00:38:34.000 A lot about life and a lot about what makes America great, about hard work, about the courage to step into the ring.

00:38:41.000 It's six minutes.

00:38:42.000 There's nowhere to hide.

00:38:43.000 You learn about resilience because everybody has to fight through getting beat or everybody has to fight through getting taken down and show real toughness.

00:38:55.000 And you learn about respect because after you spend six minutes beating the tar at each other...

00:39:01.000 You have to stand up and someone gets their hand lifted in the air and you shake hands and walk off the mat.

00:39:05.000 So I think a lot of what's great about America, we see in those high school gyms in Pennsylvania.

00:39:12.000 And that's what the column was about in the Wall Street Journal.

00:39:14.000 And I think it's emblematic of, I think, the community and a set of ideals that your father really hit on the campaign.

00:39:22.000 And one of the reasons I think he has such a great following in Pennsylvania.

00:39:25.000 I mean, you also ran an ad during your campaign about how wrestling taught you to make the hard choices.

00:39:31.000 What are those hard choices right now in the U.S. Senate?

00:39:34.000 And what will your benchmark be for success in this Congress?

00:39:39.000 Well, you know, I've got a whiteboard in my office.

00:39:42.000 And on it, I have the top 10 things I promised.

00:39:45.000 A lot of the same things of your dad.

00:39:46.000 Some different things that were Pennsylvania-specific.

00:39:49.000 But a lot of the same things.

00:39:50.000 And I literally look at that whiteboard when I come in every time and say, OK, what are we doing on that?

00:39:54.000 OK, fentanyl.

00:39:56.000 We propose that.

00:39:57.000 Okay, term limits.

00:39:59.000 What are we going to do on that?

00:40:00.000 Okay, getting the economy back on track.

00:40:03.000 What are we going to do to have energy dominance?

00:40:07.000 What's the permitting reform agenda?

00:40:09.000 I'm looking at that list to say, hey, that's what I promised.

00:40:12.000 And I want to hold myself accountable to everything I promised.

00:40:16.000 That's the first and foremost, because I was very specific in the campaign.

00:40:21.000 Your dad was incredibly specific.

00:40:22.000 I was too.

00:40:25.000 I think he won and I think I won because people knew what we were going to do.

00:40:29.000 They had known him before and he had obviously done great things in his first term.

00:40:34.000 For me, I think they were betting on the promise.

00:40:36.000 So I want to deliver on the things I promised.

00:40:39.000 I want to help your dad deliver on his incredible agenda, is an important voice in the Senate.

00:40:46.000 And I want to be the guy.

00:40:49.000 That when Pennsylvanians think of my name, they say, that guy is everywhere.

00:40:53.000 He's fighting for us.

00:40:54.000 He's working for us.

00:40:56.000 You know, nobody's working harder.

00:40:57.000 And I want them to know, and this is genuine, Don, that I feel honored and privileged to do it.

00:41:04.000 I genuinely do.

00:41:05.000 I've had a great life.

00:41:06.000 I've been very fortunate.

00:41:07.000 I feel like this is really the honor of a lifetime to have this chance.

00:41:12.000 Well, that's awesome to hear.

00:41:13.000 So tell us a little bit more just about the book, why you wrote it.

00:41:17.000 Where can everyone go get a copy to check it out and learn a little bit more about the senator from Pennsylvania who's on our side of the fence?

00:41:24.000 Yeah, thanks.

00:41:24.000 This is a book that we wrote long.

00:41:26.000 This was during COVID, you know, when kids weren't going to school and all that stuff.

00:41:30.000 And we have six daughters, 24 to 18. They were a little bit younger then.

00:41:34.000 And we realized that they were not going to school.

00:41:37.000 Coaches, teachers, they didn't have any interaction.

00:41:39.000 And Dean and I started to talk about the fact that whatever success we've had in life was due to a couple key people.

00:41:45.000 These were the mentors that helped us become who we were.

00:41:49.000 And so we started to think about that.

00:41:52.000 And in my case, it was a football coach.

00:41:55.000 I was a sophomore in high school, not a particularly good football player.

00:41:59.000 I was sort of the benchwarmer.

00:42:00.000 And the coach got fired and a new coach came in.

00:42:03.000 And he watched all the films from the previous games, and I get pulled in on the last court or something.

00:42:08.000 And he came to me and said, listen, you've got real potential.

00:42:12.000 You're going to be the starting linebacker, but you've got to perform well in the camp.

00:42:17.000 And I worked my butt off in football camp that summer.

00:42:19.000 And at the end of, this is my junior year, at the end of that camp, he made me the co-captain of the team.

00:42:25.000 When I say this was shocking, this was beyond...

00:42:29.000 What I could have imagined.

00:42:30.000 And I went on and I became an all-state linebacker and everything else.

00:42:33.000 And that helped me get into West Point.

00:42:35.000 That guy changed my life.

00:42:37.000 He saw something in me that I didn't see in myself.

00:42:39.000 The same with Dina.

00:42:40.000 So we started to call people, some friends of ours.

00:42:43.000 Most of them very successful people.

00:42:45.000 And they all had somebody who had believed in them, who had helped them become who they are.

00:42:51.000 And so the book is about not the famous people.

00:42:55.000 It's about the people that helped make them famous.

00:42:58.000 Sarah Huckabee's in there.

00:43:00.000 She talks about a certain Donald Trump, your father, who, when she was getting the tar knocked out of her and all these horrible insults, pulled her aside and said, you're beautiful.

00:43:15.000 You have so much to offer.

00:43:17.000 You're so talented.

00:43:18.000 Go out there and don't let him see you sweat.

00:43:20.000 Made a huge difference to her.

00:43:22.000 Satya Nadella, the CEO of Microsoft, one of the most prominent CEOs in the world, he talks about this manager at Microsoft that pulled him out of obscurity, saw something special in him.

00:43:33.000 His name was a guy named Doug Burgum.

00:43:35.000 So over and over again, you have people that made all the difference.

00:43:39.000 And so the moral of the story is you don't have to be a famous person to change the world.

00:43:43.000 You can help by helping someone else.

00:43:46.000 Find their path to greatness.

00:43:48.000 And so that's what Dean and I wrote about.

00:43:50.000 And she had a great career in business and had created a number of big mentoring programs.

00:43:57.000 Very successful.

00:43:58.000 So the two of us decided to do it together.

00:44:00.000 By the way, if you could make it through a losing campaign, a winning campaign, and writing a book together and stay married.

00:44:06.000 That's a good sign for the future.

00:44:07.000 You're doing pretty good.

00:44:08.000 Yeah, that's a hard metric.

00:44:10.000 These are hard things to do, especially as a working couple.

00:44:14.000 And the book is the hardest.

00:44:14.000 The book is absolutely the hardest.

00:44:16.000 So tell us again, what's it called?

00:44:18.000 Where everyone can find it?

00:44:20.000 Yeah, it's WhoBelievedInYou, and it can be found at WhoBelievedInYou.com.

00:44:25.000 It comes out April 1st.

00:44:27.000 You can pre-order it on Amazon, and we think people are going to...

00:44:32.000 Help them think about, hopefully help you and others think about who believed in them.

00:44:35.000 The one theme that jumped out of this, all the people we talked to, we probably interviewed 25 people that are in the book.

00:44:41.000 Many of them said, man, I don't think I told them.

00:44:44.000 I wish I would have told them.

00:44:45.000 Now they're gone.

00:44:46.000 I wish I would have told them.

00:44:47.000 So anybody listening to this, if there's somebody who changed your life, now's the time to tell them why you still can.

00:44:52.000 Well, thank you very much.

00:44:54.000 I think that's great advice.

00:44:55.000 Senator Dave McCormick, thank you so much.

00:44:57.000 Really appreciate it.

00:44:57.000 Great seeing you, buddy.

00:44:58.000 And I'm sure I'll run into you somewhere on the road.

00:45:00.000 Looking forward to it, Don.

00:45:01.000 Thanks so much.

00:45:02.000 Be well.

00:45:03.000 And coming up, we'll cover a shocking medical malpractice scandal in Ohio.

00:45:08.000 Eric Dieters will join us.

00:45:10.000 Joe Biden's so-called Inflation Reduction Act is a disaster for America's seniors.

00:45:17.000 Democrats snuck in a provision to raid Medicare.

00:45:20.000 And fund green energy giveaways for their special interest donors.

00:45:24.000 But it gets even worse.

00:45:26.000 The Biden pill penalty is undermining the development of lifesaving pills.

00:45:32.000 We've already seen a 70% drop in the development of pill-based treatments since 2021.

00:45:38.000 The Biden pill penalty is a threat to our fight against everything from cancer to diabetes.

00:45:46.000 Joe Biden broke Medicare, but President Trump can fix it.

00:45:50.000 Call Congress and tell them to end the Biden pill penalty now.

00:45:55.000 Tell Congress to end the Biden pill penalty.

00:45:59.000 Take action and go to seniors4bettercare.com.

00:46:06.000 Again, that's the number 4 in there instead of the word 4. seniors4bettercare.com.

00:46:13.000 And now we turn to a major story.

00:46:16.000 That much of the media is ignoring.

00:46:18.000 It surrounds a scandal, a cover-up, and medical malpractice.

00:46:22.000 It's the true story of a medical terrorist, corporate healthcare greed, and a legal system plagued by corruption.

00:46:31.000 Here to explain so much more about that is the lawyer at the center of the story, the author of The Butcher of Pakistan, my good friend, radio host, lawyer, Politician delving into it, Eric Dieters, man of all trades.

00:46:50.000 Eric, how you doing, buddy?

00:46:52.000 I'm doing great.

00:46:53.000 It's great to see you again, Don.

00:46:54.000 Likewise. For those who don't know, Eric hosts one of the great events in Kentucky, a Freedom Fest there that just goes absolutely wild.

00:47:03.000 It's always a great time every year.

00:47:06.000 We doing that again this year, Eric?

00:47:08.000 It's September 6th, Don, and I hope you can make it.

00:47:12.000 And if you can, bring J.D. since he's right across the river.

00:47:15.000 That's right.

00:47:16.000 I mean, that's in Kentucky, but you're right there on the border of Ohio.

00:47:19.000 I mean, I guess a lot of the case that you're working on really took place in Ohio.

00:47:24.000 So, Eric, tell us, what is the book The Butcher of Pakistan about?

00:47:30.000 It sounds pretty gruesome, but it seems like it's a little bit more on our soil, not in Pakistan. 0.50

00:47:36.000 Correct. What the tale is, Don, and thank you for giving me this opportunity on your platform, is Dr. Atik Durrani came to the Cincinnati area in the 2000s, and he becomes a doctor at Cincinnati Children's Hospital.

00:47:52.000 And from 2005 through 2013, at nearly every single...

00:48:00.000 Cincinnati Area Hospital, he performed unnecessary spine surgeries on unwitting victims, generally poor, including hundreds of children.

00:48:12.000 And the punchline to it all, Don, is that the hospitals knew what was going on and let it happen because he was doing such high volume of surgeries.

00:48:24.000 He was making them so much money.

00:48:26.000 They literally turned the other way.

00:48:28.000 He was the number one biller in Medicare, Medicaid of all orthopedics in the entire state of Ohio.

00:48:37.000 And it was kind of weird.

00:48:40.000 I found out by accident, Don, I had like seven or eight cases, and I do this press release and say, something's not right about this doc.

00:48:49.000 And one of the few times the local news covered it, and it went out there, and the next thing you knew, We had 580 people that were victims of this guy.

00:48:59.000 So that's the base point is what he did and what the hospitals looked the other way.

00:49:06.000 It is exhibit A of what's wrong in this country with corporate health care.

00:49:10.000 So what is the status of the legal battle for the victims of Dr. Durrani?

00:49:15.000 That's the next story.

00:49:17.000 You can't make this up, Don.

00:49:19.000 Your father, your father, because of all the hell he's been through with the legal system, could really relate to this, and I know you can because you went through it.

00:49:27.000 It has been, the massive cases were filed in 2013.

00:49:32.000 The Ohio Supreme Court, which, by the way, Filled with Bushites. 1.00

00:49:37.000 These aren't mega Republicans on the Ohio Supreme Court.

00:49:40.000 We don't have mega Republicans in the Ohio State Legislature.

00:49:43.000 There is a rule that the Ohio Supreme Court has that anybody who brings a case has three years from the time it's filed that it's supposed to be over.

00:49:53.000 Out of the 580 cases, there's only a couple hundred of them that are final.

00:50:00.000 So after 13 years of litigation, trying case after case after case, we're going to have another 10 years because the Ohio Supreme Court says, eh, we got that rule, but it's not going to apply to the Durrani victims.

00:50:14.000 Why wouldn't it apply to them?

00:50:16.000 What's special or different about this case?

00:50:19.000 No reason, Don.

00:50:21.000 No reason, except it's against the powerful health care lobby in the state of Ohio.

00:50:26.000 That's the only reason.

00:50:27.000 The health insurance industry owns the Ohio Supreme Court.

00:50:32.000 We're talking about millions and millions.

00:50:34.000 But get this, Berkshire Hathaway is the largest insurance company of, excuse me, not Berkshire Hathaway, Medical Protective is the largest insurer of doctors in the country.

00:50:45.000 Wholly owned by Berkshire Hathaway and Warren Buffett.

00:50:48.000 There was a $40 million policy for the victims.

00:50:52.000 The hospital settled back in 2018-2019.

00:50:55.000 The Durrani victims would have averaged only $100,000 a person under this $40 million policy.

00:51:02.000 Medical Protective has chosen not to make a single offer despite us winning $360 million in verdicts.

00:51:13.000 It's insane.

00:51:16.000 I don't even understand at this point.

00:51:18.000 Well, let me explain.

00:51:22.000 Okay, so here's what happens.

00:51:24.000 So is it just that no one, like other than you, I guess, no one's willing to take them on, no one's willing to say this is BS, no one's willing to call it out, and just because of that, they can just be like, you know what, forget it.

00:51:32.000 I know that insurance companies, you know, delay, delay, delay, don't pay.

00:51:38.000 Right. That's what they're doing, Don.

00:51:42.000 What it is is they chose, they're so mad about what's happened to them, they're getting sued, that medical protective, there's only one reason, evil, cruelty.

00:51:53.000 They're saying, we're going to bankrupt Dieters, we'll have Dieters handle these cases all these years, and he'll run out of money.

00:52:01.000 They were banking on me running out of funds, running out of...

00:52:06.000 And we would never get to the finish line.

00:52:08.000 But they made a major screw-up.

00:52:10.000 And this is the big story right now, Don.

00:52:12.000 Medical Protective claimed they were not going to pay these claims because after Durrani was indicted and he fled the country, that he wasn't cooperating.

00:52:22.000 So for five years they told us.

00:52:25.000 Durrani doesn't want to cooperate so we don't have to pay on the policy.

00:52:28.000 We finally take Durrani's deposition by Zoom, like this in Pakistan, and why we're taking his deposition, that the call to prayers happens, his dog's barking.

00:52:39.000 I mean, it's a crazy scene, and he admits.

00:52:42.000 That he always wanted to defend the cases.

00:52:45.000 So for five years, Medical Protective has lied about it.

00:52:49.000 So now we have a, I'm not kidding you, it's a billion-dollar fraud case against Medical Protective for not paying these claims.

00:52:57.000 Warren Buffett bragged he gave $5 billion away last year to charity, but he won't tell Medical Protective to pay these poor people $40 million.

00:53:07.000 But it's classic insurance, Don.

00:53:09.000 You've been through it.

00:53:10.000 All Americans go through it.

00:53:12.000 They feel like they can defend, delay, deny, and they thought they were going to, you know, bankrupt me, and I always find a way to keep this thing going.

00:53:20.000 It costs me $2 billion a year, Don, to keep this litigation going, and I'm still going after 13 years.

00:53:26.000 But we're going to get them.

00:53:27.000 And thanks to you for bringing this to the public, because the local news media won't cover it, Don.

00:53:33.000 Yeah, you told me the story when I was in Kentucky and I was like, I don't even understand.

00:53:36.000 How can I...

00:53:37.000 No, but it's like, it's wild.

00:53:38.000 I mean, how do you not protect a victim of like a faulty or unnecessary spinal surgery?

00:53:43.000 You don't do anything for it.

00:53:45.000 You just sweep it up.

00:53:46.000 You know, and I guess, I don't know.

00:53:47.000 The mindset is just like so many of just...

00:53:49.000 Well, you said it's a poor demographic.

00:53:52.000 They don't have the soapbox or the power to do anything about it.

00:53:55.000 So sweep them under the rug and let's move on. 0.78

00:53:58.000 And it's sick, man.

00:53:59.000 It's a sad thing because it happens, I'm sure, not just here, but all over the country in so many other fields.

00:54:04.000 Right. One of the things, and I brought this to your attention, I remember down at your house one time, because I think it was a big issue when your dad was running against DeSantis because Florida passed tort reform.

00:54:15.000 I said, you know, I always...

00:54:17.000 I love your dad.

00:54:18.000 One of the things I like about your dad is he's the only Republican to ever run, because he's not an establishment, that never brought up the words, we need tort reform.

00:54:28.000 And what goes on, Don, and it's the negative publicity out there in the news stations, but the hospitals and the insurance companies, they own the politicians, they own them, and they're big law firms, they own the media, so the media doesn't want to do anything.

00:54:45.000 To go crosswise with them.

00:54:47.000 So these poor people and I get left out in the dark.

00:54:50.000 So the only way we're going to get publicity for this to bring pressure on medical protective and to let the world know what terrible things that they're doing is through these platforms like with you.

00:55:01.000 But it doesn't make sense except the cruelty of it all.

00:55:06.000 They can get away with it, they think.

00:55:09.000 So, they do it.

00:55:10.000 It's so sad.

00:55:11.000 And these people, Don, I don't know about you.

00:55:14.000 You're younger than me, but I'm pretty healthy.

00:55:16.000 Hell, I get a toothache. 0.97

00:55:17.000 I'm freaking miserable. 0.98

00:55:19.000 These people have constant, daily pain. 0.92

00:55:22.000 And some of them have so much pain.

00:55:25.000 They turn to heroin.

00:55:26.000 I've had them in meetings say, hey, Eric, would hurt my case if I turned to heroin?

00:55:30.000 I said, listen, you take care of you.

00:55:32.000 Whatever you got to do to relieve that pain.

00:55:34.000 I mean, I can't imagine having a messed up spine.

00:55:37.000 And you guys have shown the scars before.

00:55:39.000 I mean, the scar, your producer, the scars of all these people is just wicked.

00:55:44.000 I mean, he didn't care.

00:55:45.000 You know, he didn't care how they looked, you know.

00:55:48.000 It's just, that's why we called him the Butcher of Pakistan. 1.00

00:55:51.000 I mean, and somebody said that was racist.

00:55:53.000 And I said, it's not racist.

00:55:54.000 If he was from England, I'd call him the Butcher of England. 1.00

00:55:56.000 And you know what's wild, Don?

00:55:57.000 This happened all the way back in 2009.

00:56:00.000 But he is a DEI hire.

00:56:02.000 They wanted to bring in somebody, a foreigner from Pakistan.

00:56:06.000 And Children's Hospital, where this happened, is the so-called number one ranked hospital in the country.

00:56:13.000 And right now, I got inside sources there.

00:56:16.000 You're going to love this, because this is relevant to the day.

00:56:18.000 A nurse told me that they are trying to get away from your dad's DEI requirements, that they're going to cut off funding, that they're trying to disguise it at Children's Hospital.

00:56:29.000 Oh, I believe that.

00:56:29.000 They'll get rid of the department, but the policies will still be the same.

00:56:32.000 They'll just be unwritten, and they'll be doing it.

00:56:35.000 I love that they're going after it.

00:56:38.000 You've got to start somewhere. 0.90

00:56:39.000 But, yeah, you've got to stay all over this stuff because I'm sure they're not going to change a damn thing. 0.61

00:56:45.000 The whole thing's wild.

00:56:46.000 Eric, what do you want everyone across America just to know about this story?

00:56:50.000 I mean, I can't imagine this is the only one.

00:56:52.000 What are the other consequences you faced for taking on this case and telling the story?

00:56:57.000 And, you know, you know me well enough.

00:56:59.000 I'm not always, you know, for the trial lawyer side, I'm usually not because they're usually trying to screw me or someone, you know, but when you have literally hundreds...

00:57:08.000 Of victims.

00:57:09.000 It's then proven that they didn't need a spinal surgery and you had someone just go in there and do it because it was billable hours.

00:57:15.000 That, you know, that's one of the most reasonable people can be like, I'm actually for the trial lawyers in this one.

00:57:22.000 I think the reason why you and I get along is we're a lot alike in our personalities.

00:57:26.000 You know, we're just, we're who we are.

00:57:28.000 I like it, yes.

00:57:30.000 And I always say you're my favorite Trump because you're just real.

00:57:33.000 And I love Eric too, but he's more docile than you and me.

00:57:37.000 But get this.

00:57:38.000 This is so wild.

00:57:39.000 I'm like a man without a party because I'm all mega.

00:57:44.000 The Republican establishment, Don, is 1,000% for the hospitals, the corporate healthcare, and everything else.

00:57:52.000 And it's not a negative doctor.

00:57:53.000 I'm pro-doctor.

00:57:54.000 You ask any doctor in this country, it's the corporate healthcare suite.

00:57:58.000 But here's what happened to me.

00:57:59.000 When I took this on, the whole establishment came after me because...

00:58:04.000 I'm the only guy I know in the greater Cincinnati area that does plaintiff's work that is pro-Trump.

00:58:12.000 I mean, because...

00:58:13.000 The trial lawyers are very...

00:58:14.000 They're all Democrats.

00:58:16.000 They're all Democrats.

00:58:16.000 It's literally one of the largest Democrat funding blocks in...

00:58:19.000 John Morgan.

00:58:20.000 John Morgan, Exhibit A. You know, Morgan and Morgan.

00:58:23.000 Because they don't care about their country.

00:58:26.000 See, the plaintiff's bar...

00:58:28.000 Just so you know, Doc, the plaintiff's bar are the most greedy.

00:58:32.000 They act like they take care for the...

00:58:33.000 No, no, no.

00:58:34.000 They are greed, greed, greed.

00:58:36.000 And at the other end of the spectrum, you've got this defense delay and deny.

00:58:40.000 And in the middle, you've got good old me who's like, wait a minute.

00:58:43.000 I love my country and I would rather have...

00:58:47.000 Donald Trump appointing Supreme Court justices that save our country than writing laws that are just going to protect, you know, they call them the whiplash case.

00:58:56.000 And that's really important, Don.

00:58:57.000 You know, like the whiplash case gets the, because, oh, were you really hurt?

00:59:03.000 I mean, I've been hit from behind.

00:59:04.000 I didn't file a case.

00:59:05.000 But we're not dealing with these so-called frivolous lawsuits.

00:59:09.000 These are people.

00:59:11.000 We win 80% of our trials.

00:59:13.000 How we lose 20%, Don, I don't know who those jurors are.

00:59:16.000 But you usually lose, Don, 95%.

00:59:20.000 Of a medical malpractice case goes to trial.

00:59:22.000 We're winning 80%.

00:59:24.000 It proves the merit of these cases. 0.98

00:59:26.000 But here's what's happened to me.

00:59:27.000 I've almost went broke.

00:59:29.000 I almost went bankrupt.

00:59:30.000 I got banned from the courthouse and banned from the courtroom.

00:59:34.000 You know what I said?

00:59:35.000 When they were burning down the courthouses, I said, what do we have to do to get trials?

00:59:40.000 Do we have to burn down a courthouse?

00:59:42.000 So the judge goes...

00:59:43.000 Dieter's a threat to courthouse. 0.81

00:59:45.000 I'm banning him from the courthouse.

00:59:46.000 And then I stood in front of this judge, and I called him evil for not giving these people for trial, and they threw me in jail for 15 days.

00:59:54.000 I served eight days at the Hamilton County Justice Center.

00:59:58.000 So, you're kidding me?

00:59:59.000 Listen, I hear you like model street right now.

01:00:01.000 Are you really, if they haven't thrown you in jail for BS?

01:00:05.000 But, Eric, you said Ohio requires every civil case to be over in three years.

01:00:10.000 The proceedings have gone on for over a decade.

01:00:13.000 I mean, do you not have, like, a claim against Ohio itself?

01:00:17.000 I mean, you know, beyond the medical system, beyond the insurance companies, beyond the hospital, beyond the doctor, I mean, can't you force that?

01:00:24.000 I don't understand how they can create an exception to their own written rules, but I guess it shouldn't surprise anyone.

01:00:30.000 Here's the answer.

01:00:31.000 We filed a federal lawsuit about that.

01:00:34.000 And the federal judge said, it's a state issue.

01:00:37.000 I can't do anything.

01:00:38.000 So we filed in the state board of claims, we filed a claim against the state of Ohio.

01:00:45.000 And they ruled that, nah, nah.

01:00:48.000 So it goes to the first district court of appeals.

01:00:51.000 This just came down yesterday.

01:00:53.000 We appealed it to the Ohio Supreme Court.

01:00:55.000 And in the brief, we said, does the Ohio Supreme Court really?

01:00:59.000 Not going to accept this case and decide the issue of whether or not you have to comply with your three-year rule.

01:01:10.000 And they didn't take the case.

01:01:12.000 They didn't take the case.

01:01:13.000 They claimed, well, that's just a Supreme Court guide.

01:01:16.000 It's not binding upon us.

01:01:19.000 But this is how sick these people have been treated, Don.

01:01:21.000 If you filed a lawsuit anywhere in the state of Ohio for any claim...

01:01:26.000 In 2009, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, all the way up to 2021, your case would be over.

01:01:35.000 But not the 580 Durrani victims.

01:01:39.000 The 580 Durrani victims have been mistreated, not just by medical protective, not just by the healthcare system, but the entire Ohio legal system.

01:01:51.000 And this is the latest crazy thing.

01:01:53.000 You can't make this up.

01:01:54.000 The Ohio legislature voted 100% of the time, 100 of them voted, and DeWine, you know DeWine, DeWine signed the law that said that when a guy flees the country, it's not going to toll the statute of limitations.

01:02:09.000 So the entire legislature in Ohio, Republicans and Democrats, and the governor, unanimously passed a law that could call it the Durrani Flight Act that says, if a doctor flees the country, too bad for the victims.

01:02:24.000 I mean, you can't make that up.

01:02:27.000 But it's true.

01:02:28.000 Well, you know, the press isn't there.

01:02:32.000 No one's gotten to see it because they're not willing to cover it.

01:02:35.000 So hopefully, Eric, this gets us a little bit closer to all of that.

01:02:40.000 I just feel terrible for these people.

01:02:43.000 Man. It sucks, but I appreciate you having the guts to do that.

01:02:47.000 Thanks for all you do, you know, just in this fight.

01:02:50.000 You're the best, and I'm sure we'll be in touch in the not-too-distant future, Eric, as you see the latest developments.

01:02:55.000 So I wish you the best of luck with all of it for those people.

01:02:58.000 Thank you, Donnie.

01:02:59.000 Keep up the good work.

01:03:00.000 Thanks, buddy.

01:03:00.000 Great seeing you.

01:03:01.000 Good seeing you.

01:03:03.000 Guys. Thank you guys.

01:03:26.000 I will talk to you all again very soon.

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