Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - A Court of Corruption: NY Trial is Pure Politics, Plus World Burns Under Biden, Live with Rumble CEO Chris Pavlovski

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00:06:10.000 you what's going on guys welcome to another

00:06:38.000 Huge with a capital Y episode of Triggered.

00:06:42.000 Every day, every day, somehow the news gets more and more intense and Joe Biden finds some new way to sink to a whole new low.

00:06:54.000 And we're here to give you a front row seat to all of the far left communist insanity.

00:07:01.000 Also tonight, we have a special guest, Rumble CEO Chris Pawlowski, right here in studio.

00:07:07.000 So after we get done with News of the Week, we'll be talking to Chris about all things tech, free speech, Elon, everything.

00:07:13.000 So we'll be talking about the left's lawfare.

00:07:16.000 We're going to be talking about that a lot right now.

00:07:18.000 The corruption that is staring us right in the face.

00:07:22.000 They are not even pretending anymore, folks.

00:07:24.000 A lot of you guys who've been watching this, a lot of the people I watch and listen to in the comments,

00:07:28.000 you guys have been onto this for years now.

00:07:31.000 But now it's gotten so flagrant that everyone is seeing it.

00:07:36.000 We have some incredible developments going on at Rumble.

00:07:40.000 We have incredible developments in this New York insane lawsuit, criminal trial that just started today

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00:08:47.000 And with that, folks, let's get right into the news.

00:08:52.000 Jury selection began today in Alvin Bragg's baseless sham case in Manhattan.

00:08:59.000 This is pure politics.

00:09:01.000 Alvin Bragg is a Soros-funded Democrat who campaigned on targeting my father.

00:09:06.000 You can listen to him for yourself.

00:09:09.000 Whoever has this job, are they going to convict Donald Trump?

00:09:15.000 I'm the candidate in the race who has the experience with Donald Trump.

00:09:19.000 I was the chief deputy in the attorney general's office.

00:09:22.000 We sued the Trump administration over 100 times for the Muslim travel ban, for family separation at the border, for shenanigans with the census.

00:09:32.000 So I know how to litigate with him.

00:09:35.000 I also led the team that did the Trump Foundation case.

00:09:38.000 So I'm ready to go wherever the facts take me and to inherit that case.

00:09:43.000 And I think, you know, It'd be hard to argue with the fact that that'd be the most important, most high-profile case.

00:09:48.000 And I've seen him up front and seen the lawlessness that he can do.

00:09:51.000 And you believe it should happen?

00:09:54.000 I believe we have to hold them accountable.

00:09:57.000 So yeah, you are right.

00:09:59.000 We've got two standards of justice, Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein.

00:10:03.000 Being a rich old white man has allowed you to fade accountability in Manhattan.

00:10:07.000 That includes Trump and his children.

00:10:09.000 So I've seen a pattern of lawlessness over 20 years.

00:10:12.000 And so I'm inclined to believe all I see in the public domain and believe that there's a path forward there to make a case.

00:10:21.000 Wow. I mean, sort of tells you everything you know.

00:10:24.000 It's like Letitia James, who campaigned on, she's going to take them down, she's going to break them, they're going to do this.

00:10:29.000 Without actually having seen anything, it didn't matter.

00:10:32.000 But that's what happens in New York.

00:10:33.000 Apparently, I'm one of those children who they've also gone after, and gone after me financially and otherwise.

00:10:38.000 So if you think for one second, guys, that this stops with Trump, you know what?

00:10:42.000 They can take out Trump and everything will go back to normal.

00:10:45.000 You have not been watching.

00:10:47.000 You have not been paying attention.

00:10:48.000 If they are able and willing to go after a guy like Donald Trump with his platform, with his ability to fight, with his base, there is literally no one they won't go after.

00:10:58.000 They will go out and take out anyone who stands in the way of their power grab.

00:11:04.000 Bragg is a leftist hack.

00:11:06.000 He sees the job as Manhattan District Attorney as defending Joe Biden's policies.

00:11:16.000 It has nothing to do with keeping the city safe.

00:11:22.000 Bragg downgrades the majority of felonies to misdemeanors.

00:11:25.000 He releases the criminals back into the streets.

00:11:28.000 You saw what happened to the illegals that beat up the cops in the streets of New York.

00:11:32.000 They're immediately released.

00:11:34.000 It's pretty ironic considering that in this case, he's trying to do the opposite.

00:11:39.000 He's trying to turn something that at worst, at worst, was always looked at, always looked at as a misdemeanor.

00:11:47.000 Into a felony. They've changed the stature of limitations.

00:11:52.000 Multiple agencies in New York, both federal and statewide, declined to prosecute this case.

00:11:56.000 But once Brad got in there, even though he turned it down the first time, he's coming back.

00:12:02.000 Okay? Imagine that.

00:12:04.000 They're changing the laws to be able to go after one man.

00:12:07.000 That is not the stuff you hear about in republics, or democracies, or...

00:12:14.000 You know, the things they like to talk about.

00:12:16.000 That's the stuff of fascism.

00:12:18.000 To be clear, everyone understands that this case is a joke.

00:12:21.000 The New York Times ran an editorial calling it a legal embarrassment.

00:12:25.000 Just so we're clear, that is the New York Times.

00:12:28.000 This is not a conservative outlet.

00:12:31.000 This is not someone who likes Donald Trump.

00:12:34.000 If the New York Times, like Bolshevik left New York Times, is calling it a legal embarrassment...

00:12:42.000 What do you think that actually means?

00:12:43.000 It's probably worse. Guys, even the Washington Post, the Jeff Bezos Amazon-owned Washington Post wrote that the prosecution left some legal experts scratching their heads as they describe it as an unusual case.

00:13:01.000 That's a polite way of saying it's a bullshit case, folks.

00:13:05.000 If you've lost, again, the New York Times and the Amazon Washington Post, you have a serious trouble.

00:13:11.000 But that doesn't matter. Because in New York, you're not going to get a fair trial.

00:13:14.000 You understand that. They know that.

00:13:16.000 They don't care. Democracy, freedom, law and order.

00:13:20.000 They think it's a soundbite for them.

00:13:21.000 They joke about it at cocktail parties while they laugh about getting their wins however they can.

00:13:27.000 And remember, folks, all of this is based on a dubious legal theory.

00:13:32.000 Bragg says that the alleged bookkeeping errors were made in furtherance of another crime.

00:13:37.000 But this other crime was neither stated by Bragg himself or included in the actual indictment against my father.

00:13:43.000 So it's like... How do you do that?

00:13:46.000 It's in furtherance of another crime.

00:13:47.000 We're just not going to even tell you what that is.

00:13:49.000 It'll be our little secret.

00:13:51.000 So the charging of felonies rests on Bragg's word alone.

00:13:57.000 Furthermore, you can tell there's no crime here because the DOJ, Joe Biden's DOJ, the FEC, Joe Biden's FEC, And Bragg's Democrat predecessor, Cy Vance, all declined to bring these very same charges because they too understood just how weak it actually is.

00:14:18.000 The star witness in this case is none other than Michael Cohen.

00:14:22.000 Look at how he describes himself.

00:14:25.000 You know, we have to be concerned about Michael Cohen.

00:14:27.000 He's a convicted perjurer.

00:14:29.000 He's a convicted liar.

00:14:32.000 I mean, he has a point.

00:14:33.000 He is. He's perjured himself over and over again.

00:14:37.000 He perjured himself in the Letitia James case.

00:14:39.000 He lied before Congress.

00:14:41.000 He went to jail for these things.

00:14:42.000 But that's their star witness.

00:14:45.000 And I guess Dormy Daniels, a porn star.

00:14:49.000 This is where we are, folks.

00:14:51.000 For once there, Michael Cohen actually told the truth.

00:14:55.000 He is a felon, a convicted perjurer, and a disbarred attorney.

00:15:00.000 That's who Alvin Bragg is depending on.

00:15:03.000 And that's before I even get to the judge.

00:15:06.000 This judge is a Biden donor.

00:15:10.000 And has a massive, massive conflict of interest.

00:15:13.000 His daughter worked for Kamala Harris' campaign and literally profits from the trial.

00:15:19.000 She's a political consultant that helps Democrats like Adam Schiff raise money off of all the lawfare.

00:15:26.000 That's her job. So if this judge says, you know what, this case is meritless, his daughter loses a lot of money, like millions of dollars.

00:15:36.000 Now, when we try to get him to recuse because of these conflicts, no way!

00:15:40.000 And an appellate division in New York won't let you do anything about it because, obviously, we're living in the People's Republic of New York, a communist stronghold in America.

00:15:51.000 A retired judge, probably not a Republican, literally admitted this on CNN of all places.

00:15:59.000 Watch for yourselves. work with many, many high-profile Democratic candidates.

00:16:08.000 She works on their social media.

00:16:10.000 They put out a post. She, as an owner, gets a percentage of those contributions.

00:16:17.000 So there is a statute in New York which says a judge must disqualify himself if a person known by the judge be within the sixth degree of relationship and a daughter is the first degree has an interest that could be substantially affected by the outcome of the proceeding.

00:16:38.000 So the question here is Is this daughter likely to profit, to benefit from the outcome of this proceeding?

00:16:47.000 And you have to understand, it's not actual conduct that's worrisome.

00:16:51.000 It's the appearance, the appearance to a reasonable person that this judge cannot be fair and impartial given that relationship.

00:17:00.000 So ordinarily, I would think that a benefit financially would be to a spouse because they share the income.

00:17:06.000 This is an independent adult daughter.

00:17:08.000 They don't share income. But according to this statute, the judge must recuse if she would substantially benefit from the outcome.

00:17:19.000 Just so we're clear, right?

00:17:21.000 This is a New York law.

00:17:22.000 This isn't like ethics, like, hey, there's an appearance of impropriety.

00:17:27.000 Maybe we should just do that because that would be the right thing to do.

00:17:30.000 No, no, no. There's a law in place.

00:17:34.000 That's clearly being violated.

00:17:36.000 Our lawyers have obviously pointed that out.

00:17:38.000 And it does not matter.

00:17:41.000 Because again, the rule of law is a joke to these Democrats if they can weaponize that law against their political opponents.

00:17:48.000 This judge is corrupt beyond belief.

00:17:52.000 Today, if you guys want to get really pissed off, this one's a lot.

00:17:58.000 Today, he even said that my father will have to miss my younger brother's, Barron's, high school graduation for this trial or risk going to jail.

00:18:09.000 They won't give him one day off.

00:18:10.000 The judge takes like all Wednesdays off, right?

00:18:12.000 But they won't give my father one day off to watch his youngest child graduate high school.

00:18:20.000 Okay? Just so we're clear, these people are not human.

00:18:23.000 They will do whatever they can.

00:18:25.000 Okay? That one I take personal umbrage with as the father of five young kids seems like a big one, and these people couldn't care less.

00:18:34.000 But I hope that everyone watching understands just what's going on.

00:18:39.000 By the way, Joe Biden is directly implicated in this prosecution.

00:18:44.000 The prosecutor leading the case for Bragg is Matthew Colangelo.

00:18:49.000 Colangelo is a lifelong Democrat activist who is a senior political appointee for both Obama and the Biden administrations.

00:18:57.000 He was the number three at the Biden DOJ. Biden and the Democrats are focused on using the courts to target their political opponent instead of targeting adversaries like, I don't know, Iran, who are watching idiots like Joe Biden, the weakness that we exude as a country, the incompetence The focus on like the 4,672 genders rather than, I don't know, like winning wars and like taking care of Americans.

00:19:26.000 That's what they're focused on.

00:19:28.000 The attack from Iran on Israel this weekend was enabled by Joe Biden, by his weakness.

00:19:34.000 He has made Iran rich.

00:19:36.000 He has given them money.

00:19:39.000 Remember when the worst thing you feared was maybe a mean tweet in the morning?

00:19:43.000 Now we have Iran launching drone strikes directly at Israel.

00:19:49.000 Under Joe Biden, Iran's oil experts have more than doubled.

00:19:54.000 We're helping them fund this war.

00:19:58.000 We're helping them fund the attacks on the Allies.

00:20:01.000 We had them almost broke.

00:20:04.000 And almost exactly one month before Iran's attack on Israel, Biden freed up $10 billion.

00:20:13.000 Think about that. $10 billion in frozen funds for Iran.

00:20:18.000 Now, the experts, the morons in the mainstream media...

00:20:22.000 No, no, no! It's earmarked for humanitarian aid!

00:20:26.000 They'll tell you that all day long because they're too incompetent to understand that money is fungible.

00:20:29.000 Guess what? The money that was previously earmarked for humanitarian aid can now go make bomb vests for sociopaths to terrorize innocent people, women and children, in the streets.

00:20:42.000 Our media won't talk about these things.

00:20:44.000 They won't tell you these things.

00:20:46.000 They won't remind you that we were signing peace deals in the Middle East.

00:20:49.000 But hopefully real Americans remember and understand what is and what could have been.

00:20:55.000 Because we have a chance to redo that again in November.

00:20:59.000 Joe Biden helps the terrorists in Tehran get rich.

00:21:02.000 And his only form of deterrence is saying, don't.

00:21:08.000 Don't. Mr. President, what is your message to Iran in this moment?

00:21:12.000 Don't. Our American personnel...

00:21:15.000 Oh, don't.

00:21:16.000 Oh, it's wonderful. Honestly, if you're a predator, if you're a dictator, and you see Joe Biden get lost, you know, fall on his ice cream cone on a daily basis...

00:21:26.000 You probably say, I don't know.

00:21:28.000 Maybe I'll pounce.

00:21:30.000 Maybe I'll strike. Like predators have done for millennia.

00:21:34.000 Biden says don't.

00:21:36.000 And our enemies do.

00:21:37.000 Because none of them are afraid of the weak man who spends all of his time at the beach.

00:21:43.000 By the way, a story we covered last week, why are we still funding NPR? You know, National Public Radio, it's supposed to be very unbiased, not at all political.

00:21:53.000 Every single year, the federal government spends over $100 million supporting NPR. This is a massive investment of taxpayer dollars in Democrat Party propaganda.

00:22:05.000 Just look at the CEO of NPR and who they are.

00:22:09.000 Her name is Catherine Marr.

00:22:11.000 Catherine doesn't even hide the fact that she's a Democrat propagandist.

00:22:16.000 In 2020, she tweeted a picture of her wearing a Joe Biden hat and said she was helping him get out the vote.

00:22:23.000 She even defends rioting.

00:22:25.000 She wrote during the 2020 riots, I mean, sure, looting is counterproductive,

00:22:31.000 but it's hard to be mad about protests not prioritizing the private property

00:22:36.000 of a system of oppression founded on treating people's ancestors as private property.

00:22:41.000 My eyes are rolling into the back of my head, folks.

00:22:45.000 This is insane.

00:22:47.000 Katherine Maher recently defended NPR after a senior editor that revealed

00:22:51.000 that the outlet purposefully buried the Hunter Biden laptop story,

00:22:56.000 because of course they did, because they were worried it would hurt

00:22:59.000 Joe Biden's re-election chances or election chances.

00:23:02.000 Again, we are paying for this with our own tax dollars, and $100 million is not insignificant.

00:23:09.000 Imagine what that could do in your own hometown.

00:23:12.000 NPR is much more than just Democratic Party propaganda.

00:23:16.000 It's also just run-of-the-mill batshit left-wing conspiracy insanity.

00:23:21.000 NPR has published a guide on how to decolonize your bookshelf.

00:23:30.000 Tell me I'm in the Truman Show, folks.

00:23:32.000 Please, will someone in the comments just blink three times if this is all one big joke and I'm being punked on a daily basis.

00:23:41.000 How to decolonize your bookshelf?

00:23:44.000 They've written about white tears.

00:23:47.000 They've even warned people that getting weighed by your doctor, that's fat phobia, folks.

00:23:52.000 If you're a fat pig, it's not healthy.

00:23:54.000 That's what your doctor's there to tell you.

00:23:55.000 You can actually do something about these things, folks.

00:23:58.000 You don't have to worry about being phobic of something.

00:24:00.000 One of the ists doesn't matter.

00:24:02.000 We want to get you healthy, but watch NPR yourself.

00:24:08.000 It is your right to decline to be weighed.

00:24:11.000 And so that you certainly can decline when you go.

00:24:14.000 The other thing is to let your provider know that you would like medical care from a health at every

00:24:19.000 size perspective and that you would not want to discuss weight or weight management at your visit

00:24:25.000 that you have the right to ask for that. Yeah you know what else is based on weight? Like

00:24:30.000 I don't know medicinal dosages but you know don't tell them.

00:24:34.000 Don't tell them. You can be 400 pounds.

00:24:36.000 You tell them you're 150. I'm sure it'll go great.

00:24:38.000 What could possibly go wrong?

00:24:39.000 Again, your tax dollars are funding this.

00:24:42.000 Why? Because congressional Republicans need to prioritize putting an end to this government-subsidized propaganda.

00:24:49.000 But they won't.

00:24:51.000 We need to be fighting the same game.

00:24:52.000 If this was Republican propaganda, I can assure you the Democrats would be in line, they would be in sync, and they would actually do something about these things.

00:25:01.000 And meanwhile, guys, the New York Times actually ran an honest story this weekend.

00:25:05.000 I know! I know.

00:25:07.000 It's shocking. It was an op-end from my friend, Ohio Senator J.D. Vant.

00:25:13.000 J.D. wrote that the math on Ukraine does not add up.

00:25:19.000 That shouldn't surprise anyone, but here's just one example.

00:25:23.000 Ukraine says they need 4 million artillery shells a year.

00:25:28.000 But we can only produce 360,000 a year.

00:25:32.000 Less than one-tenth of what Ukraine actually says it needs.

00:25:35.000 We produce one-tenth of what they say it needs.

00:25:38.000 What about our needs?

00:25:39.000 What if something happens to us or one of our other allies?

00:25:43.000 The push for Ukraine aid misses the reality that there's very little we can do to change the reality of the war.

00:25:52.000 If we don't do something about this right now, all we're doing is perpetuating death.

00:25:57.000 But that seems to be just fine with the Washington, D.C. swamp, with the Lindsey Graham's of the world, and others.

00:26:02.000 The average Ukrainian soldier is now roughly 43 years old.

00:26:08.000 It's like my age, almost.

00:26:09.000 I mean, I'm a little bit older, but I won't admit that.

00:26:13.000 Ukraine can't win this war.

00:26:15.000 All our aid accomplishes is prolonging the war and causing more senseless death.

00:26:22.000 And if you've seen some of the videos that I have, you know that a lot of these guys aren't thrilled about having to fight this thing anymore.

00:26:28.000 Finally, folks, the illegals are now landing on American beaches.

00:26:32.000 Look at this video out of California showing a boat almost slamming into a surfer and then a massive group of illegal immigrants just running off.

00:26:42.000 Just notice there also happens to be like a car waiting for them.

00:26:45.000 This is happening in America daily.

00:27:21.000 An invasion. Nothing more, nothing less.

00:27:24.000 Just an invasion, and we're allowing it to happen each and every day.

00:27:28.000 Under Joe Biden, this country is becoming a punchline, and there's no signs that it's getting any better.

00:27:33.000 And we'll get to Chris Pawlowski in just a few moments, but first, a few words from some of our very brave sponsors.

00:27:39.000 It takes guts to support programming like this, because I say whatever the hell I want and what I'm thinking, which is also really important and a key tenet of our democracy and our republic.

00:27:48.000 And I'm also going to play you guys a video statement my father just released, talking about the madness, talking about the lawfare.

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00:30:51.000 If you guys have stuff on the lawfare, hit me up here in the chat.

00:30:55.000 I think we can have some fun with that.

00:30:56.000 But I wanted to make sure I showed you a video, a video statement that my father's campaign just released, talking about all of the lawfare, talking about the insanity of what's going on.

00:31:08.000 Obviously, I went into the details above, but it's so much worse.

00:31:12.000 What's even worse... Perhaps is that no one in the media, like they literally, the media is just taking the Democrat talking points on all, and it shouldn't surprise you, right?

00:31:22.000 But they're just taking, they're not even like listening to the logical responses.

00:31:26.000 They're not even talking about like the New York Times and the Washington Post themselves calling it out.

00:31:31.000 They are running the DNC soundbites.

00:31:35.000 They're talking about those on the show as though it's the gospel, not just Democrat talking points.

00:31:40.000 They refuse to talk about like, oh, I don't know, randomly changing laws,

00:31:45.000 changing stature of limitations to be able to create a case that didn't otherwise exist.

00:31:50.000 They won't talk about the four other agencies that refused to prosecute that weren't exactly Trump-supporting people.

00:31:56.000 They won't even talk about it.

00:31:58.000 So the people who are out there watching the mainstream news, and even they are saying, man, this is a little bit crazy, they don't even get to see the other half of the story.

00:32:07.000 So check out this clip, and we'll be back with Chris Pawlowski in a few moments.

00:32:12.000 a very dangerous threshold.

00:32:15.000 In the middle of a presidential election, right smack in the middle, crooked Joe Biden and his entire corrupt party are staging a show trial of their leading political opponent, me.

00:32:30.000 It's totally crooked.

00:32:31.000 It's totally corrupt. It's never been done before.

00:32:34.000 In a completely illegitimate act of election interference, they're trying to jail their opposition as if they were Stalinist Russian or Communist Chinese or Castro's Cuba or Socialist Venezuela.

00:32:48.000 As you witness this Biden trial, I ask all Americans to remember that this is not just about me.

00:32:55.000 This is about our country, and this is about you.

00:32:58.000 Whether you're a Republican, Democrat, or Independent, we should all be horrified by the corruption of the system of justice.

00:33:06.000 What's taking place in our country has never happened before.

00:33:09.000 They go after Biden's political opponent because he can't do it.

00:33:14.000 He's weak. He's ineffective.

00:33:16.000 He's totally out of it.

00:33:18.000 He can't walk off a stage from a speech, and he can't put two sentences together.

00:33:22.000 So how do you do it?

00:33:24.000 Go after his opponent.

00:33:25.000 This is Biden attacking democracy, a continuation of the greatest witch hunt of all time.

00:33:31.000 From Russia, Russia, Russia, you know how that ended.

00:33:34.000 No problem. To Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, impeachment hoax number one, impeachment hoax number two, and so many more.

00:33:42.000 The same group of thugs and their fake news allies have been trying to lie, cheat, and steal their way back into power.

00:33:49.000 They want to stay in power.

00:33:51.000 They want to get back in power.

00:33:53.000 The moment they lost in 2016, it all began.

00:33:56.000 They said, we're never going to let that happen again.

00:33:59.000 And I'll tell you what, if we lose this election, you may never have another election.

00:34:06.000 Well, guys, so you saw that.

00:34:08.000 You understand what's going on.

00:34:10.000 They're trying to make sure to keep him off the campaign trail for the coming months.

00:34:14.000 You know, it's going to be four or five days a week in New York City.

00:34:18.000 Just a Bolshevik shit show.

00:34:20.000 But, you know, that's... What we should unfortunately expect from these people at this point.

00:34:24.000 That's why we're fighting back. That's why free speech and that ability to do is so important, which is why I'm so psyched to have Chris Pawlowski in here.

00:34:32.000 We've known each other for quite a while.

00:34:34.000 I think I was probably the second sort of bigger account kind of verified user after Dan Bongino on Rumble?

00:34:40.000 Yeah. Second or third?

00:34:42.000 You were the third...

00:34:43.000 The third major account that came to Rumble.

00:34:45.000 Third person to actually believe in what we're doing.

00:34:50.000 It was Devin that came in.

00:34:51.000 I got a phone call in the middle of summer from Congressman Devin Nunes at the time.

00:34:55.000 He was a ranking member of the House Intel Committee.

00:34:57.000 And then a month and a half later, we had Dan Bongino come on.

00:35:03.000 And that kind of opened the floodgates.

00:35:06.000 I don't think a lot of people knew that Devin was the first person to come on in the summer, but then when Dan came on, a lot of people found out, and you were the guy right after him to come on.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, basically, it was like when they threw my father off Twitter, sort of end of the presidency thing, I basically was like, wow, at the time, it was like five million people.

00:35:28.000 I was like, I could just disappear like that, and Dan reached out and was like, hey, you should meet with Chris.

00:35:32.000 We literally got together the next day, and I was like, yep, I'm on, let's go.

00:35:35.000 Yeah, I think it happened really fast.

00:35:36.000 Like, you came on, what was it, maybe February?

00:35:40.000 Or, like, weeks after.

00:35:42.000 Yeah, right after. Right after we connected, and then you were on Rumble, and now I think you're one of the largest accounts on Rumble that there are.

00:35:49.000 We try to have some fun with it.

00:35:50.000 And again, it's always, for me, a big part of it is actually just sort of staying in tune with, you know, our people.

00:35:55.000 You've got to cater to independence and stuff like that, but like, you know, If I read the feed, you know, once you get through some of the trolls, you know, there's some pretty good stuff.

00:36:02.000 You actually have a pretty good understanding of where that base really is.

00:36:04.000 So, you know, for me, it's a lot of fun.

00:36:06.000 But, hey, you rushed here from Vegas.

00:36:09.000 We got to have some fun before we get into, like, the politics of all, you know, it's like, enough.

00:36:13.000 It's like, you know, I'm sitting here having fun and, like, my dad's, like, on trial for 700 years in prison.

00:36:18.000 I'm like, ah, you know, at this point, it's just another Monday, you know, that's become normal.

00:36:22.000 But, Let's talk slap boxing.

00:36:26.000 Power slap. You guys started that, and man, even the platforms that, let's say, censor the crap out of us, man, they can't get away from that one.

00:36:36.000 It just shows up in there. It's done incredibly.

00:36:37.000 Yeah. Yeah, so I just got back from Vegas.

00:36:39.000 I jumped on a 7 a.m.

00:36:41.000 flight to get over here. Put in the chat.

00:36:44.000 Put ones in the chat if you are familiar with Power Slap or if you've seen the Slap events on social media or on Rumble.

00:36:53.000 Be very curious. One's in the chat if you've seen it.

00:36:55.000 Two's in the chat if you haven't.

00:36:58.000 But yeah, we had our big Slap event.

00:37:02.000 I think the biggest one we've had was the one in February.

00:37:05.000 A lot of ones. Look at that.

00:37:07.000 A lot of ones. It's unanimous.

00:37:09.000 I don't know what three is, but...

00:37:11.000 It's one of those sports now that I think has gone extremely viral.

00:37:17.000 It's kind of built off of the social influencers.

00:37:21.000 All the influencers are at these events.

00:37:23.000 I can't believe I haven't actually made it out there yet.

00:37:25.000 You have to come. Living in Florida, it's actually a pain in the ass to get to Vegas.

00:37:29.000 I don't know why. There's no flights.

00:37:31.000 There's no flights. I don't know why.

00:37:32.000 It's almost like they're like, we're Florida, that's Vegas.

00:37:35.000 They don't want to compete or something.

00:37:36.000 But New York, when I lived up there, I was like, you can get to Vegas.

00:37:40.000 There's 17 options throughout the day.

00:37:42.000 You go whenever you want, you're back. Florida, it's hard.

00:37:44.000 You almost have to connect. I have to get to Miami, which is about two hours away from Palm Beach.

00:37:49.000 Yeah, it's impossible to find Vegas, Florida flights.

00:37:52.000 But this sport has attracted people.

00:37:55.000 Tom Brady was at the...

00:37:56.000 Not the one on this weekend, the one prior to that.

00:37:59.000 This last weekend, we had Theo Vaughn.

00:38:01.000 Vivek Ramaswamy came out to it as well.

00:38:04.000 We had all kinds of different influencers.

00:38:06.000 And they're posting because it's so impactful.

00:38:08.000 It happens so fast.

00:38:10.000 It's the perfect medium for 2024, right?

00:38:14.000 It's a... You know, here's a 30-second clip that just is wild, and it's like, that's about all the attention span we have at this point, I think, in many cases.

00:38:24.000 But, I mean, it's so perfect for the time, right?

00:38:27.000 Obviously, you can build up a storyline around it, you can create the rivalries, you can...

00:38:31.000 But, I mean, in its infancy, you already have that kind of mega attention, which is pretty amazing.

00:38:35.000 Yeah, it really caters to that TikTok, to Instagram, that short, like, 30-second clip that everybody wants to see.

00:38:43.000 This happens within seconds, really, at the end of the day.

00:38:46.000 And it's a shock factor in a lot of ways, right?

00:38:49.000 Like, when you're watching the UFC, there's some good fights, but that shock factor could take a couple rounds to actually happen.

00:38:55.000 And sometimes not at all.

00:38:57.000 I've been to a UFC event, and again...

00:38:59.000 I love them, and that's the nature of fighting.

00:39:00.000 But sometimes it's like, you'll get one where it's like, they all sort of go to a decision in the end.

00:39:04.000 There's not the decisive... I guess UFC 300 had a couple pretty decisive knockouts.

00:39:07.000 UFC 300 was... Yeah, and all of my friends...

00:39:10.000 Dude, I had like 15 friends like, you know, hey, you coming out?

00:39:13.000 I'm like... I had family commitments and all this craziness in New York.

00:39:17.000 I was like, I couldn't do it, but that was one that was rough to miss.

00:39:19.000 Yeah, that was an unbelievable event.

00:39:22.000 I think on the Joe Rogan meme where he was like, you know, on the table.

00:39:25.000 I'm in the background of that meme that's just standing there.

00:39:28.000 Like, it shocked myself, right?

00:39:31.000 It's pretty... It was just a...

00:39:33.000 It was an unbelievable weekend.

00:39:35.000 Slapped it really well. UFC really pulled out a great card as well.

00:39:40.000 So talk about that a little bit.

00:39:41.000 Like, obviously Dana sort of got involved with Slapped.

00:39:43.000 You know, obviously a very close friend of myself.

00:39:45.000 And, you know, my father just...

00:39:48.000 Honestly, maybe other than yourself, like sort of one of the few sort of unapologetic CEOs out there.

00:39:54.000 And I think, but I actually think it's working.

00:39:56.000 Like when you see the insanity of what's going on in corporate America today, like it's, at least for me, like really refreshing to see some, I don't care.

00:40:04.000 Like, I'm going to do what's right.

00:40:05.000 I understand my fan base.

00:40:06.000 I know what they, you know, we're going to go.

00:40:08.000 Yeah, he's the best sports president any sports league's ever seen, in my opinion.

00:40:12.000 Not even quite. Hands down.

00:40:14.000 I don't understand how, like, Roger Goodell still has a job.

00:40:16.000 It's like he has photos of, like, you know, I don't know, some of these owners doing some unbecoming things because it's like it's hard to believe that he still remains that.

00:40:26.000 They keep giving him a raise as he's making more money than the teams.

00:40:29.000 It's lunacy to me, but hey, what do I know?

00:40:31.000 Yeah, Dana's phenomenal.

00:40:33.000 And like, you know, a lot of people were talking about how Slap wasn't going to survive after its first year.

00:40:38.000 And now you saw the chat.

00:40:40.000 Every single person in the chat has seen Slap.

00:40:42.000 Yeah, they're still going. I think I've seen two twos, but that could be...

00:40:46.000 I think the chat...

00:40:47.000 Oh, did we freeze up?

00:40:49.000 Yeah. Just got to click, scroll it down.

00:40:52.000 But yeah, everyone's seen it.

00:40:54.000 It's super popular. You have people all the way from Travis Scott to Tom Brady to Charles Barkley.

00:41:02.000 You have the influencers, the streamers that are coming out to the events as well.

00:41:07.000 So it's hitting all different segments of the market.

00:41:10.000 Everyone knows it's there. And it's been a huge success.

00:41:13.000 Don't bet against Dana White, ever.

00:41:14.000 Yeah, you'd be foolish to bet against Dana White.

00:41:17.000 That's a fact.

00:41:19.000 You got down here now.

00:41:21.000 Tell me what's going on. Rumble, you know, has been unique.

00:41:24.000 I mean, even, you know, say what you want.

00:41:27.000 I like what Elon's doing and everything like that.

00:41:29.000 But like Rumble's been consistently the only actual...

00:41:34.000 Like, 100% all-in free speech platform.

00:41:36.000 Others, it's like, well, you're not allowed to say that.

00:41:38.000 Okay, because it's more important for us to be in that market, even if we're being censored, all of that.

00:41:43.000 You guys have taken the approach like, it's all or nothing.

00:41:45.000 If they throw us out of a market, that's okay.

00:41:48.000 Like, we would rather be just true to our word.

00:41:49.000 Yeah. Talk about that.

00:41:51.000 We're definitely the tip of the spear when it comes to it.

00:41:53.000 When a country comes to us, we don't tiptoe around certain things.

00:41:57.000 We don't comply with requests that don't violate our terms of service.

00:42:02.000 We've done that countless times, whether it's been in France or whether it's been in Brazil.

00:42:08.000 I think Elon is in a big fight now with Brazil, but he still hasn't unbanned any of those craters yet.

00:42:12.000 So he hasn't really... He said he was, but he hasn't done it yet.

00:42:15.000 Take people through that, because the whole thing's crazy.

00:42:17.000 In Brazil, it's a little different.

00:42:19.000 I think Eduardo Bolsonaro, who's the son of the former president, sort of like me, but he's also one of the most popular congressmen in that country.

00:42:27.000 I think he was on the second Triggered podcast.

00:42:30.000 He's a good friend of mine, a personal friend.

00:42:31.000 We hang out. And what's going on there is almost like what's going on here almost advanced.

00:42:38.000 You know, the banning of free speech.

00:42:39.000 Over there, you have the Chief Justice of their Supreme Court basically acts like a unilateral thing.

00:42:45.000 Like, they can just ban people.

00:42:47.000 They can arrest people. It's almost like a dictatorship in disguise under the guise of the court system.

00:42:54.000 Like, they have more power than the actual president of the country.

00:42:56.000 When you look at a court system, someone's supposed to bring something to the courts, and the courts are supposed to decide on that, and then ultimately goes through levels of courts until you get to a Supreme Court, and they're supposed to decide on it.

00:43:09.000 But what we're seeing in Brazil is someone just unilaterally just saying, hey, I don't like this.

00:43:13.000 We're going to have to shut this down.

00:43:14.000 Without someone actually bringing an order or bringing something to the court, it's happening unilaterally by the Supreme Court in Brazil.

00:43:21.000 And they came to us, and they...

00:43:24.000 They had their requests to remove craters off the platform.

00:43:29.000 And ultimately what we decided to do was, in protest, is to basically shut off Brazil entirely.

00:43:35.000 Because what they've done in the past is when you don't comply, they'll shut you off at the IP level, the telco level.

00:43:41.000 That would affect, you know, they did it to Telegram.

00:43:43.000 They've done it to a lot of different companies in the past when you don't comply with their orders.

00:43:48.000 And we're an American company.

00:43:50.000 We're not beholden to what China is going to tell us to do or what France is going to tell us to do or what Brazil is going to tell us to do.

00:43:57.000 We're going to operate by U.S. law and we're going to operate here in the United States.

00:44:00.000 And if someone else in some other country has a request or demand that doesn't have anything to do with our terms of service, then we're going to leave and protest.

00:44:10.000 And that's... I think that's actually the best thing to do.

00:44:12.000 So what is X and Twitter doing as it relates to all of this right now?

00:44:15.000 I don't know how they have any jurisdiction over there.

00:44:17.000 They're going to jail... Twitter!

00:44:20.000 They've been complying for the last year, whereas when we got our first request in 2023, we were like, we're done.

00:44:27.000 No more. We're not going to comply with your orders and stay in Brazil and shut off creators because you ask us to do so for no good reason.

00:44:35.000 We don't even know your reason.

00:44:37.000 That's just not going to happen.

00:44:39.000 What they've done is they've been complying for a year, and I think last week Elon kind of just got to a certain point where he got fed up, and he said he's going to Not comply.

00:44:50.000 And what does that mean?

00:44:52.000 It means that he's going to unban...

00:44:54.000 It should mean that he's going to unban the creators and then eventually the Supreme Court's just going to turn off Twitter.

00:45:00.000 But he hasn't done that yet.

00:45:02.000 He said he was going to do it a week ago.

00:45:03.000 It hasn't happened. Will it happen?

00:45:06.000 It might happen. Maybe it's just taking some time.

00:45:08.000 I know you probably have employee issues there and things that you have to work through, but it hasn't happened yet.

00:45:13.000 I think the best thing to do is to have all the platforms, whether it's Meta, whether it's X, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Truth, we all have to, in unison, Turn off the lights in Brazil.

00:45:26.000 Is that realistic?

00:45:28.000 I agree with you.

00:45:29.000 If we all did that, we'd actually accomplish something.

00:45:33.000 I don't give up any platform, but I'm on Meta.

00:45:39.000 I used to have posts, like a great post would get 500,000 plus likes.

00:45:43.000 If I hit 150,000 now, it's a lot.

00:45:46.000 My average post is getting 30 to 50 after 48 hours.

00:45:50.000 I knew a post was good if I hit 100,000 in the first hour.

00:45:55.000 Now, if I hit 100,000 in 48 hours, it's like, I guess that was good.

00:45:59.000 I mean, it's, let's call it 20% of what it always is.

00:46:02.000 I know that's going on.

00:46:04.000 You know, I don't even bother doing, like, you know, Facebook videos all that much anymore because it was like, it wasn't, you know, even the monetization side of that, it was like, it's not worth the time and headache.

00:46:14.000 It's getting so few views, you know, and I don't know, maybe that's a political year, maybe it is whatever, but it doesn't seem like they have any interest in my...

00:46:22.000 Side of the story. And so how does that happen?

00:46:25.000 Because I don't see them ever actually putting that front together.

00:46:29.000 Yeah, so when it comes to, like, there's two paths that can happen here, really.

00:46:35.000 One is that he's going to not comply, or Rumble's not going to comply, and he's going to turn off our IPs, and we're never going to have access until we pay all the fines or whatnot.

00:46:43.000 And that's going to happen pretty fast, because we saw with Telegram, it happened overnight.

00:46:47.000 The other thing that could happen, the other path, which I think is the better path, Everyone did this.

00:46:53.000 They were willing to do it for net neutrality.

00:46:55.000 If you remember back, they were going to have a lights-out day where they're going to shut down services for a whole 24 hours for net neutrality.

00:47:02.000 Why not for these crazy orders that we don't even know what they're for.

00:47:08.000 We don't even know what violations they are.

00:47:10.000 This is completely inappropriate on all levels.

00:47:16.000 If freedom of expression is a human right, why not defend freedom of expression, the human right that everyone deserves, according to the United Nations, and shut off for a week or a day or two days or permanently, just shut off in protest in that country.

00:47:31.000 If that happens, if they lose all their services in Brazil, the people will not stand for that in Brazil.

00:47:37.000 But won't Facebook just be like, great, we've got more for us.

00:47:39.000 Like, we'll keep our one-way messaging.

00:47:41.000 We'll make our money on ads.

00:47:42.000 Who cares about free speech?

00:47:44.000 Like, it's a joke. If they cared about free speech, they wouldn't ban me every time I posted, you know, a basic...

00:47:47.000 You need to get more people in on it and more people to do that.

00:47:51.000 And I think the appetite's there if someone like Elon assembled that.

00:47:56.000 I think Elon has the capability of assembling, like, a mass lights out.

00:47:59.000 Can you call Zuckerberg? Yeah.

00:48:02.000 Would he take your call and be like, hey, listen, let's at least...

00:48:05.000 I mean... I'd love to see it because it's interesting.

00:48:07.000 You see him doing the fighting thing and he's lifting weights now.

00:48:11.000 It's sort of an interesting...

00:48:13.000 It feels like, wait a minute, maybe he's not totally bought into the leftist bullshit.

00:48:17.000 Now, again, Facebook or Meta itself, by the way, he could maybe get totally red-pilled and I don't know that it changes anything.

00:48:25.000 There's 50,000 employees underneath him that are just full-on communists.

00:48:29.000 I don't know that you could actually effectuate anything.

00:48:32.000 It'd be interesting to see, but it is sort of interesting.

00:48:35.000 It feels like I mean, I saw something.

00:48:38.000 He was out hunting, and then he was like, I'm like, wait a minute.

00:48:41.000 Again, maybe it's all an act.

00:48:43.000 I don't know. There's a chance, but it feels like maybe there's a moment where it's like, okay, this has gone too far.

00:48:49.000 The insanity is, I'd love to give him the benefit of the doubt, but man, I can't do that based on what I see with my own eyes.

00:48:54.000 I did have an interaction with him on Saturday night when I saw him at the UFC. You're kind of seeing that across the board though, not just with Mark Zuckerberg, but everybody.

00:49:06.000 Everybody in my life in general is kind of waking up to all this type of censorship that's happening.

00:49:13.000 It's crossing a line for so many people.

00:49:15.000 The Brazil thing is just one example, but it's happening in Canada.

00:49:19.000 Talk about the bill.

00:49:21.000 I know we spoke about it earlier last week, but there's a bill in Canada, guys, that literally will jail people for potential hate speech.

00:49:31.000 Your own lawyers have been like, you'd literally have to be a political refugee if this happened just because of what you're doing.

00:49:38.000 We're laughing because it's a clown show, but it's real.

00:49:42.000 They would totally do this if they could.

00:49:44.000 Trudeau is such a...

00:49:47.000 Bitch! It's insane, though.

00:49:50.000 Talk people through the bill, just so you understand.

00:49:53.000 Because remember, we're like, ah, it's only going on in third world countries.

00:49:56.000 No, it's not. This is a very consistent, it's a unified front.

00:50:02.000 What's happening in Brazil is the same as what's happening in Ireland, is the same as what's happening in Europe, is the same as what's happening here.

00:50:07.000 And, like, Canada's leading, you know, the crazy train faster than anyone.

00:50:13.000 Talk about the specifics of this bill, what it's called, so people can understand just how real these threats actually are.

00:50:18.000 Yeah, so this bill, like, in its first form is just...

00:50:23.000 Like, whoa. What's it called?

00:50:25.000 I think it's Bill 63.

00:50:28.000 I get so many confused.

00:50:29.000 Bill C11. There's a hundred bills that I'm looking at.

00:50:32.000 But this latest bill is, like, it's a real concern.

00:50:36.000 So much so that, like, I've openly spoken about it, and I usually don't get involved in speaking about things.

00:50:41.000 But this bill is, like, a major concern for Canada.

00:50:44.000 It's essentially, like, it...

00:50:47.000 The way it's written right now, it could be interpreted that there's, like, pre-crimes for hate speech.

00:50:52.000 Like, if someone thinks that you're going to do hate speech.

00:50:57.000 They did a movie about the Adjustment Bureau.

00:50:59.000 Like, they read your head and saw a crime potentially happen in the future, and they just threw you in jail preemptively for it.

00:51:05.000 I mean, you don't even have to do it, right?

00:51:07.000 If they think you may be a threat to this, they can throw you in jail.

00:51:10.000 This is, like, not... When you say hate speech, it's not actual hate speech.

00:51:13.000 This would be basic conservative groupthink at this point.

00:51:17.000 What is hate speech? I don't know.

00:51:19.000 What is that? Does it mean I dislike somebody or I don't like what they're doing?

00:51:23.000 I have a feeling the arbiters of this bill will also...

00:51:28.000 Probably be leftist insane people.

00:51:30.000 So, you know, if you can be a trans-revolutionary shooting up, you know, a Christian school, then that's probably fine because, you know, you're entitled to do that as the most protected class in society these days.

00:51:42.000 But I imagine that would include even basic conservative thought, like there's two genders, or that would be hate speech.

00:51:48.000 Possibly. It could be whatever someone wants it to be.

00:51:51.000 That's why the word hate speech as a generality is just wrong to use on any term because you can't really define it.

00:51:59.000 It can mean dislike. It can mean so many different things to so many different people.

00:52:02.000 But this kind of happened in Europe.

00:52:03.000 I think it was Ireland. I'm not sure if it was Ireland.

00:52:07.000 I can't remember correctly.

00:52:09.000 But apparently it's getting abused so much by all sides of the aisle that they can't handle it.

00:52:14.000 And the police are saying, we can't even deal with it.

00:52:16.000 Well, the whole thing's... But yeah, Ireland, they wanted to...

00:52:20.000 I think they wanted to threaten, like, Conor McGregor because he was like...

00:52:24.000 They wanted to make it a jailable offense to say Irish lives matter because I guess they've dealt with their own sort of invasion of, like, you know, migrants and stuff like that.

00:52:32.000 And so if you say Irish lives matter, like, you know, I don't know.

00:52:36.000 People who live in Ireland, those are Irish lives.

00:52:39.000 Like, that is hate speech.

00:52:42.000 Like, I mean, these are, but that's what I'm saying.

00:52:44.000 Like, you know, even prior to COVID, like you thought, you know, Ireland, the UK, you know, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand.

00:52:52.000 Like, you're like, these are, you know, the last bastions of freedom.

00:52:55.000 You know, most of Europe got pretty socialized decades ago.

00:52:59.000 But, you know, we thought we were all kind of the same.

00:53:03.000 Turns out that was a gross misrepresentation.

00:53:06.000 We're not. Most of those countries, including the US, were so much further along that path towards communism, controlled speech.

00:53:20.000 It's really scary.

00:53:22.000 Yeah, it is. And, you know, this is where I've gotten, like, a deep appreciation for America.

00:53:27.000 It's, like, the last place that has, like, somewhat of, this is now arguable, a judicial system that will defend freedom of speech.

00:53:36.000 Like, eh. If you're going to be a political refugee, Chris, do not come through the conventional channels because they'll just throw you in the gulags.

00:53:47.000 What you have to do, fly to Tijuana, get a backpack, come across the border, they'll give you a credit card, they'll give you an Obama phone, you can have everything.

00:53:56.000 You're just perfect. That's the way to do it.

00:54:00.000 Don't do it because you started a great business and you employ thousands of people and you're good for the economy.

00:54:06.000 That's not enough. We need people who are incompetent, people who will add nothing.

00:54:10.000 They can get in so that we have your plan.

00:54:13.000 We'll get you there. That's how you're going to have to do it.

00:54:16.000 Yeah, no, it's getting crazy.

00:54:18.000 It's crazier in Canada, that's for sure, with the way things are going.

00:54:22.000 But there's even penalties for you, corporate-wise, to be there.

00:54:25.000 I mean, haven't you gotten all sorts of, just because of what you're doing and the nature of what you're doing?

00:54:29.000 I mean, they're sort of coming after you in ways, and if you...

00:54:31.000 Not yet. These bills that are coming down the pipe are definitely going to put us in that lane.

00:54:37.000 And hopefully they're not going to be approved and get to that certain...

00:54:43.000 Usually the first iteration of the bill changes a lot before it gets the other one, but still, lots of stuff has been passed in Canada that's of concern in the last five years, and this one is just the tipping point.

00:54:52.000 This is the one where you really just hope it doesn't happen, because that's going to change the fabric of society entirely.

00:55:00.000 But, you know, there is an election coming up in Canada.

00:55:03.000 It's supposed to happen by the end of 2025.

00:55:05.000 It could happen earlier. Yeah, I've heard they wanted...

00:55:08.000 It's sort of a different system.

00:55:09.000 They can sort of accelerate.

00:55:10.000 They can sort of pick a time when to do it so they can sort of take...

00:55:13.000 The power party can have sort of the advantage.

00:55:15.000 I guess there's ideas that they want to maybe do it sooner so they can sort of piggyback off the American election because they can use the outrage cycle to further their...

00:55:24.000 No, I mean, but that's basically the theory, right?

00:55:26.000 Very much so. It could be.

00:55:28.000 And who knows what Trudeau is going to decide to do.

00:55:31.000 But I don't know if there's any...

00:55:35.000 At this point, I don't think there's an advantage of doing it next year or this year.

00:55:40.000 I just think they're going to get dunked on and lose hard.

00:55:43.000 I hope so. I spent a lot of time in Canada.

00:55:45.000 I mean, I own part of a business in Canada.

00:55:47.000 Now, I'm up in the Yukon, so it's a little different.

00:55:51.000 The problem is there's no people. They're all conservative.

00:55:53.000 But... But where's it coming from, right?

00:55:55.000 I mean, when you even think of the big cities, I mean, like, I've spent a lot of time more on the west coast of Canada, though I dated a girl for four years who was from Ottawa, so I spent plenty of time there back, you know, that was 25 years ago, but even on the west coast, it's like Vancouver, more liberal city, but, you know, half of Vancouver is like Chinese immigrants.

00:56:11.000 I can't imagine them voting for...

00:56:13.000 What they escaped, right? I mean, no, it's just a fact of life.

00:56:15.000 I mean, my friends there, they talk about sort of gentrification.

00:56:18.000 They're getting displaced from their childhood homes because, you know, it's a very heavy Asian population that's been, you know, very welcomed and, you know, they're wealthy and creating businesses or whatever it may be.

00:56:27.000 But I don't see them necessarily voting like a liberal.

00:56:31.000 So you're sort of left with, you know, Toronto...

00:56:35.000 Yeah, well, there's a real strong conservative population in Canada.

00:56:39.000 It's actually the largest. On the popular vote, they win.

00:56:42.000 They win the popular vote every time.

00:56:44.000 The problem is you have the NDP and the Liberals.

00:56:47.000 They combine to create a coalition that keeps them out of power.

00:56:51.000 That's kind of the issue you have in Canada.

00:56:53.000 But... Canada's like, their conservatives are real conservatives.

00:56:58.000 You saw the truckers. Oh, yeah.

00:57:00.000 They're passionate. Oh, by the way, the truckers across the board.

00:57:01.000 I mean, obviously it started in Canada, but then they were going to do it here.

00:57:04.000 I mean, that's like the most patriotic group of people feels like in the world right now.

00:57:08.000 I mean, they're doing, you know, same thing with sort of, you know, I guess it's the truckers and the farmers in France with all the, you know, protests there.

00:57:13.000 Like, those guys are the leading edge of, like, saying enough is enough.

00:57:17.000 Yeah, and they really lead the way.

00:57:19.000 And it's a lot bigger than the truckers, too.

00:57:21.000 You can kind of see it blossomed into something so much larger.

00:57:25.000 People are dancing in the streets, people coming out of their homes.

00:57:28.000 You got to see how there is that 40%, 45% conservative population in Canada.

00:57:33.000 And I really think that's going to tip a lot more in this next election because of what...

00:57:38.000 I don't know anyone right now that is...

00:57:41.000 I hope so. I was watching, you know, two things that were sort of notable because it was both sort of, you know, statements on the media.

00:57:48.000 One, you know, they arrested some conservative journalists for asking one of the ministers, like, you know, basic questions.

00:57:53.000 It wasn't like even just, but like, they showed up, they asked uncomfortable questions because it's an uncomfortable situation that they should be held into account.

00:58:00.000 And like the rest of the media was just like...

00:58:03.000 They're not even interested in the questions anymore.

00:58:05.000 The Canadian media forget it.

00:58:06.000 They're bought out. That's the CBC. That's Canadian state funded.

00:58:12.000 It's not like America. It's very different.

00:58:14.000 Well, the other one was, I saw the clip that went viral, which is, I guess, one of the conservative contenders for the next election.

00:58:22.000 He's sitting there eating an apple.

00:58:25.000 I think we did something on the show, didn't we?

00:58:29.000 He's just eating an apple and the reporter's asking him these questions, but they're based on nothing.

00:58:34.000 It's just not true.

00:58:37.000 Where'd you get it? It was so funny because it took...

00:58:43.000 Less than no effort for this guy just to totally beclown this reporter who just clearly wasn't accustomed to doing anything other than narrating the narrative.

00:58:54.000 They just spit it out.

00:58:55.000 They read what's on the prompter. They don't have to think about it.

00:58:57.000 It doesn't have to be true. It doesn't matter.

00:58:59.000 But when he was called out, it was just such a great example of just being like...

00:59:03.000 It's all a lie. Yeah, and it is.

00:59:05.000 I know exactly the clip you're talking about.

00:59:07.000 It went so viral. That was Pierre Polivier.

00:59:10.000 He's the leader of the Conservative Party right now in Canada.

00:59:15.000 Yeah, that was classic.

00:59:17.000 That was the way you've got to handle the media, though.

00:59:19.000 Yeah, I bet there's a couple of guys that do that well here, like my dad.

00:59:22.000 But so many of our people are too afraid to actually do that.

00:59:25.000 And when you think of these things, I talked about it last week.

00:59:28.000 Our media, they're not thought leaders.

00:59:32.000 They're Ron Burgundy.

00:59:34.000 They read what someone sticks on a teleprompter, and that's fine.

00:59:37.000 It's all well and good, but they're not qualified to do that, and the people that are putting it in there are probably no more qualified than them.

00:59:44.000 It's sort of a sad example, and yet it is something that we have to contend with because it is very real, and they still have a lot of power, and they're able to manipulate a lot, even if it's based on garbage.

00:59:55.000 I always ask that question.

00:59:57.000 Should we be engaging the media more, or should we be ignoring them more?

01:00:03.000 What's your thoughts on that?

01:00:06.000 Chat, what's your opinion?

01:00:07.000 What do you guys think? One's if you think we should engage the media more, and two, if you think we should ignore the corporate media.

01:00:13.000 I can go both ways, because, you know, so much of it's about, like, and honestly, I do it even, like, with Fox.

01:00:18.000 Like, it's almost unwatchable for me at this point, you know what I mean?

01:00:21.000 Now, I've been banned for, like, 18 months on Fox, because, you know, I call Paul Ryan a, you know, a pussy and a cuck, which is 100% accurate, but, you know, he's on their board, and therefore, you know, I can't speak.

01:00:32.000 It was, they dropped me, like, five minutes before one show, because I was going to speak on, like, the day my father was first indicted.

01:00:37.000 Yeah. A lot of twos.

01:00:40.000 They want us to ignore.

01:00:42.000 See, and this is the part that is interesting because, like, sometimes I think it's time for me to go and fight, like, to go into corporate media and go in their ground and show people what we actually believe in because I think most people would agree with it.

01:00:55.000 A lot more twos. Well, one person said, fight but with class.

01:00:57.000 The problem is this. You're not shown that same respect back, right?

01:01:01.000 They lie about it. I was guilty of Russian treason, a crime punishable by death.

01:01:05.000 That was a fact, according to them, for three years.

01:01:07.000 When I was part of three of the big, you know, the walls are closing in, it's a bombshell, we finally got them.

01:01:14.000 They didn't even retract it when it was totally disproven as a lie, like, just fact.

01:01:20.000 So, you know, this whole notion of, like, You know, honestly, the fight back but with class, which means, like, fight back with your hands tied behind your back.

01:01:28.000 Don't do what needs to be done.

01:01:29.000 Don't play the game that they're playing.

01:01:31.000 And I think, honestly, I think that's why we lose.

01:01:33.000 Because we do have this thing.

01:01:35.000 Like, there's decorum. Like, they laugh about decorum.

01:01:38.000 They'll talk about it. Like, we must be doing it.

01:01:40.000 You know, like, it's all bullshit for them.

01:01:43.000 And so that is interesting.

01:01:44.000 I think both sort of work.

01:01:46.000 Because, you know, I think...

01:01:49.000 What they do really well, or what they have in the past, you know, they'll go out there and, you know, there'll be an issue.

01:01:54.000 And they'll find the one, like, lunatic fringe guy.

01:01:56.000 And then they highlight, like, this is the face of the movement.

01:01:58.000 And it's like, no, that's exactly the opposite.

01:02:00.000 It's not. It's what you want it to be.

01:02:02.000 And you'll paint that picture. So maybe, you know, you need a couple people that are capable of, like, sort of fighting that game.

01:02:09.000 You know, everyone thinks they're going to be great on TV. Then the lights go on.

01:02:11.000 It's sort of like, you know, Mike Tyson, right?

01:02:13.000 Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the face.

01:02:15.000 It's a little different. You know, it's not for everyone.

01:02:17.000 And that's fine. But you're right.

01:02:19.000 I mean, it is about views. It is about clicks.

01:02:21.000 People just stop watching. Like, I don't even watch most of the, you know, I certainly don't watch Fox News anymore because it's like, it's all part of the same regime.

01:02:27.000 You know, like, now they're kind of back a little bit Trumpy because it's worthy for clicks.

01:02:31.000 But, you know, they spent two years giving Ron DeSantis a lap dance.

01:02:34.000 And I was like, you know, they just, they want to control Of who that person is.

01:02:38.000 They want to be able to pick up the phone and have that person answer to them, even if it's the President of the United States.

01:02:42.000 I didn't appreciate that prior to building Rumble and now owning Rumble.

01:02:46.000 I didn't really appreciate how much the corporate media puts the finger on the scale for what they want.

01:02:52.000 They're the game.

01:02:54.000 They're playing the game. Whereas I didn't really quite appreciate that five years ago as much as I do now.

01:03:01.000 I'm curious to see what you guys think.

01:03:04.000 Did you know it was as bad as it is?

01:03:06.000 I mean, I used the DeSantis thing, not because it's whatever, like, you know, but it was so clear, you know, Fox, they wanted him to be president, and everything was like, you know, they took the memes, and they did this.

01:03:17.000 I knew it was sort of nonsense. I had spent so much time with him, you know, in, like, 18, helping him get elected the first time, and then, you know, so I knew who the guy was, and I was seeing, like, man, you get, like, a five-second clip.

01:03:28.000 You make someone look like a hero. People are like, aren't you worried, Don?

01:03:30.000 Aren't you worried about DeSantis? I go...

01:03:32.000 Just wait. Like, what do you mean?

01:03:34.000 Well, like, eventually, like, when you're running for president, like, you gotta go long form, right?

01:03:38.000 It can't be a clip put together by, you know, a great team of social media experts who'll take you dunking on some local reporter five seconds and they'll throw the, you know, the Dr.

01:03:46.000 Gray music on in the background, put the sunglasses on and make you smoke a blunt.

01:03:49.000 Like, you actually gotta do it for a while.

01:03:51.000 And that's when people were like, oh, shit.

01:03:54.000 And so it was different, but that...

01:03:57.000 I think a lot of that was just literally a creation of the mainstream media.

01:04:01.000 They wanted that. They understood, you know, Rupert Murdoch or whoever was in charge wanted that to be the guy.

01:04:05.000 So they put all those resources behind it for two years.

01:04:08.000 It was like, you know, one of the greatest sort of free advertising campaigns in the world.

01:04:13.000 But in the end, you got to stand on that stage for more than 10, 15 seconds.

01:04:18.000 And that's when it sort of fell apart. It's been amazing to watch, just the whole machine, how it works and how it moves and what it does.

01:04:28.000 This is why I think things like Truth, which is such a great moment right now that Truth Social went public.

01:04:36.000 We'll talk about that. So I'm on the board, so I'm not allowed to say anything, but I'd love to hear.

01:04:40.000 Well, I know, listen, Rumble.

01:04:42.000 By the way, Rumble Cloud, you guys go check that out.

01:04:44.000 Like if you guys are on Amazon, if you guys have like Amazon Cloud Services or Microsoft or one of these, like that's where all of those companies get their revenue.

01:04:52.000 They are then taking that revenue.

01:04:54.000 It's not about buying your toothbrush there.

01:04:56.000 You can go to Public Square for that, so you don't have to give them anything.

01:04:59.000 But so much of these companies, their cloud services are how they're making their money, which they're then literally taking your money for your business, probably your data, giving it, and then donating back to lunatic causes on the left.

01:05:12.000 Talk a little bit about the Rumble Cloud, and then I want to get into what you're doing actually combating the media stuff, but I just sort of went on a tangent there.

01:05:18.000 Yeah. No, like, first off, like, we're finally having that asset class, that parallel economy with companies in the early stages of these companies that have, that can actually, are creating a whole new asset class.

01:05:31.000 You got Public Square, you got DJT, which is Truth Social, and you got Rumble.

01:05:36.000 And, you know, a lot of them are in the early stages.

01:05:38.000 We're all kind of in the early stages, but we're all building great products, and now DJT has the ability to do amazing things with...

01:05:44.000 The amount of capital that you guys raised and the valuations that you guys have, you can really push forward.

01:05:51.000 But one of the things that we've done is, it's one thing to build the video platform to go and fight against corporate media, and it's very needed, but you can't do it if you're running on top of Big tech.

01:06:05.000 Correct. They'll figure out a way to...

01:06:07.000 Like, I'm not willing to, like, give up a battlefield.

01:06:10.000 You know, I'm still... I'll still be on Instagram, even if they're screwing with me.

01:06:13.000 But, like, this is different.

01:06:15.000 Like, they always said in...

01:06:16.000 The reason I... You know, again, early on Rumble, you know, try to help out, make whatever connection.

01:06:20.000 Same thing with Public Square.

01:06:21.000 You know, like... Same with Truth.

01:06:23.000 They always say, oh, you don't like it?

01:06:26.000 Build your own. Well, we actually did.

01:06:28.000 There's guys like that. You have that skill set.

01:06:31.000 You had the tech. You had the willpower to do it.

01:06:33.000 That's not easy. But it's not just build your own and we'll let you compete on a fair groundage.

01:06:38.000 Build your own. If you hit a critical mass and we don't like it, we'll rip you off Amazon Web Services.

01:06:43.000 Parler. Parler, right?

01:06:45.000 We don't like the message.

01:06:46.000 There's a right-wing conspiracy theorist on there.

01:06:49.000 We're literally going to just pull you off of that.

01:06:50.000 Apple threatening, you know, the ability to get your app on the App Store.

01:06:54.000 Same with Google, you know, if you're an Android user.

01:06:57.000 So they say, you know, build your own, but it's not real.

01:07:00.000 It's build your own, and we're going to throw up every roadblock imaginable.

01:07:03.000 And again, it's competitive, but this is designed...

01:07:05.000 It's a monopoly. They're designed to try to hold on to that power.

01:07:10.000 So, you know, that you guys are doing that.

01:07:12.000 I mean, honestly, if you're a...

01:07:14.000 I don't even need to say conservative business.

01:07:16.000 I mean, if you're like a, you know, independent or right of that, like, you almost don't have a choice because, like, they've shown that they're willing to do this.

01:07:24.000 Your business takes off. We don't like it.

01:07:26.000 You don't like a post. You know, what you saw with, what, PayPal?

01:07:29.000 You know, if you're spreading misinformation, we're just going to fine you, what was it, $2,500?

01:07:33.000 Like, they're the arbiters of misinformation on, like, it's not a social platform, so you say something somewhere else they don't like, they're just going to ding your account?

01:07:41.000 I mean, they'll really try to do this.

01:07:42.000 That was actual policy for a minute until the world went insane.

01:07:47.000 But the fact that it even got there shows...

01:07:50.000 I mean, there's no grounding in reality anymore.

01:07:53.000 There isn't. Parler got shut down even though Facebook, Meta, whatever you want to call it, had far more violations of the nature that Amazon was citing for Parler.

01:08:04.000 Yeah. So... Why did they get shut down first if they were not the leading platform for the problems that they were considering to be problems at the time?

01:08:13.000 It's obvious, right?

01:08:14.000 So what we did is we built the cloud.

01:08:16.000 But the cloud is unique because it's taking the fight right to the center Of Silicon Valley.

01:08:22.000 It's taking it right into big tech.

01:08:23.000 It's their profit center.

01:08:25.000 It's where they're making all their money from Microsoft to Amazon to Google Cloud.

01:08:30.000 These three companies, they're an oligopoly that control the entire cloud market.

01:08:35.000 And we're going after that segment for the first time.

01:08:39.000 There's finally something out there.

01:08:41.000 There's finally a highway and a company that is going after that profit center that believes in freedom of expression and believes in having that highway open for everyone.

01:08:51.000 Whereas, their highway's not open for everyone.

01:08:52.000 Their highway's only open for the people they want.

01:08:54.000 Until they decide it's not. Correct.

01:08:56.000 Okay, so how does that work?

01:08:58.000 In the cloud world, if you're on AWS or one of these other, you know, Google, you know, cloud, how easy is that for people to transfer over?

01:09:05.000 What's the value proposition?

01:09:07.000 I mean, obviously you're starting off now, so how does that look for people?

01:09:10.000 Because again, you know, I always say, hey, we sometimes got to make the extra effort, but I don't know that it's even an extra effort necessarily at this point.

01:09:17.000 You got to just make the switch. Yeah, so we've launched the premium product first, so it's not the shared resources product, it's the dedicated resources product.

01:09:26.000 When you compare our premium product to Amazon's reserved or premium product, we're very price competitive, we're significantly cheaper than they are.

01:09:37.000 I think we can disrupt them on the pricing side.

01:09:39.000 We also don't throttle the limits.

01:09:43.000 With Amazon, when you get into AWS, you get charged for 10 different things.

01:09:47.000 You have to add 10 different things.

01:09:48.000 Much of which you're not even using. Whereas with Rumble, the price that you're going to get, you're going to get all those bells and whistles for one inclusive price.

01:09:55.000 You're not going to get a bill that's twice as much as you thought it was going to be based on what you ordered.

01:10:00.000 We think that we can disrupt them on the pricing in a pretty large way.

01:10:04.000 That's what we've entered into the market with right now.

01:10:06.000 So anyone can go to rumble.cloud and purchase their VMs straight from rumble.cloud automatically, put their credit card in and go.

01:10:14.000 And again, this is not, just so we're clear, like it's not one of these where it's like, hey, you do this in Rumble, but you're really just on Amazon servers.

01:10:21.000 Like dedicated hardware, dedicated servers, just you guys.

01:10:26.000 Yeah, it's like when all those platforms went down like a month ago, when Instagram went down, even X went down, Truth and Rumble were up.

01:10:35.000 We were the only highways that were open at that time.

01:10:37.000 We still don't know why they all went down.

01:10:39.000 That's another question I've been wondering.

01:10:42.000 How did they all go down for a few hours and we don't know why they went down yet?

01:10:46.000 That's interesting to me.

01:10:48.000 I'm sure someone's going to have some conspiracy theories on that one.

01:10:51.000 By the way, when I say conspiracy theories, I don't mean that in a derogatory way because I'd say your average conspiracy theorist...

01:10:58.000 It's been far more right, probably, than anyone.

01:11:02.000 Certainly, our mainstream media and big tech.

01:11:05.000 But again, it is about building your own, but then we need guys like you.

01:11:09.000 And as your businesses, go on there, do this.

01:11:11.000 Don't take those chances. Because again, we've seen how it plays out.

01:11:14.000 It's not like they're even hiding in it.

01:11:16.000 It's like, oh, it's not going to happen to me.

01:11:18.000 It's happened to anyone.

01:11:20.000 And it doesn't seem like they're going to stop doing that.

01:11:23.000 They don't even care at this point.

01:11:25.000 Yeah, no, we're living in a really interesting time where I think we finally have the products, the companies to fight back.

01:11:34.000 And they said, like you said, if we build it, go build it yourself.

01:11:39.000 All right, we're built. Let's go.

01:11:41.000 Now we need you guys to help.

01:11:43.000 I mean, this has basically become sort of my de facto job.

01:11:47.000 I did it with Public Square.

01:11:49.000 It's like, hey, can you come on as an influencer?

01:11:51.000 I was like, you can't afford me as an influencer, but if we grow this into something big, let's just do that.

01:11:57.000 It's different. Because I believe in it, and it's important.

01:12:00.000 So just being able to utilize sort of my connections and the linking and what you've done working with Devin and Truth to get that and to be the back of house that, because they're going to attack the hell out of that.

01:12:10.000 Yeah. You know, God forbid, you know, the former president of the United States can actually have a place where he can speak freely without fear of being thrown off.

01:12:18.000 It's a big deal. So it's an important fight.

01:12:20.000 But, you know, the other thing you got to know, guys, about Rumble, I want you, Chris, take us through.

01:12:25.000 I mean, you're actually suing Google.

01:12:27.000 Yep. You're suing Media Matters and some of the other media guys out there.

01:12:33.000 You're actually sort of... I mean, I guess Elon's doing some of that.

01:12:36.000 I think you've probably even gone further than that.

01:12:39.000 I mean, can you talk about the details of what you guys are actually doing?

01:12:42.000 Because I think it's important if you guys are looking at these companies, if you're on Rumble, you'll probably like it.

01:12:46.000 But like, so you understand, like, it's not just, again...

01:12:51.000 You know, a pretty veneer over, like, these guys are actually taking that fight back to the lunatics.

01:12:57.000 Talk about that a little bit, because that's one of the more impressive things.

01:13:00.000 It's not easy. But you guys are leading the charge, fighting back against the fake news, against those lies, against sort of the monopoly powers.

01:13:08.000 Can you get into the details of some of those cases?

01:13:10.000 Yeah, so one thing before I do that, someone said they should put their Truth Social handles in the chat.

01:13:18.000 If you have a Truth Social handle, put it in the chat and let people know.

01:13:22.000 It's htdefbit.

01:13:23.000 I think that's a cool comment. He said, Donald Trump Jr., tell the chat to put Truth Social link in the chat.

01:13:28.000 We need to build a community here.

01:13:29.000 Great idea. I think that's a great idea, guys.

01:13:31.000 Because, again, all of this is so organic.

01:13:35.000 You know, I built a pretty good following on Rumble really early when it was just sort of upstarting, and I think it was the first guy to hit over a million followers on Telegram, you know, and I think a lot of that's dropped off only because I think people perceive, whether it's Rumble or whether it's Truth Social, like, they had a place.

01:13:49.000 Like, Telegram for a little while was almost the only place that you're like, okay, I probably won't get thrown off of that.

01:13:54.000 So it's like, I hit like a million followers.

01:13:55.000 I'm probably like half a million now because I just, I don't see as much use there because, you For a brief moment in time, that was the only place.

01:14:04.000 Now between Truth, Rumble, you feel like there's at least a couple havens for you.

01:14:10.000 Exactly. So to the lawsuit stuff, I think we're at the tip of the spear on that, fighting back.

01:14:17.000 We're fighting back against corporate media in particular.

01:14:21.000 There was an advertising campaign.

01:14:23.000 Group, and you know, because we're in the middle of it, I can't say too much.

01:14:27.000 But there was, I think it was called, they're called Check My Ads, and they said, they did defamatory statements against Rumble, saying things that were not true to try to hurt us.

01:14:39.000 So it's designed to basically, what, like, they're commenting on things to make it seem like, it's a bunch of racists on Rumble, so they scare away the advertiser.

01:14:47.000 But it's literally just created by these leftist, like, bots.

01:14:51.000 They're There's a whole, I guess, community on the internet that just says all types of stuff.

01:15:01.000 It's really weird because it's not just the big tech companies, but there's communities coming after us trying to hurt our advertisers.

01:15:09.000 Media Matters did an article.

01:15:12.000 Where they literally refresh the page 17 times so they can get an advertisement that showed up against the video that they perceived to be bad and then write an article about it.

01:15:23.000 And we could see that by seeing how many times they refresh the page because they did it while they were logged into Rumble.

01:15:29.000 So it made it easy for us to figure it out.

01:15:31.000 So we saw what they were doing.

01:15:33.000 They're vicious. They're not too smart, folks, but they're vicious.

01:15:36.000 And they make up for it in volume and then they, you know...

01:15:39.000 It's interesting though, like you're sitting there trying to create something that's bad, a video that no one else watched in the prior year except them.

01:15:47.000 They found some crazy video, or they perceive it to be a crazy video, and they write an ad about it, and they write a whole article about it.

01:15:55.000 The attacks are like...

01:15:57.000 They just keep coming and coming and coming.

01:16:00.000 The other thing that we did, obviously we're going against France for what they did, the censorship that they demanded.

01:16:09.000 We're trying to appeal that.

01:16:12.000 We're doing the same thing in Brazil.

01:16:13.000 But we're also suing Google for antitrust, which I think is probably one of the...

01:16:21.000 To the rumble business, a very important case, and I think a very important case for the entire world.

01:16:27.000 Well, I think, just so we're clear, I personally think, I'm not putting words in your mouth, but I think Google is by far the worst offender in the world in terms of being a threat to truth, to free speech, to the basic tenets of our...

01:16:42.000 The amount of weight that they've put on the scale...

01:16:46.000 To shift things towards lunacy and liberal policy to me is like literally unfathomable.

01:16:53.000 It's crazy.

01:16:55.000 If only people I think understood, maybe if you're watching this, you do, but like...

01:16:59.000 You know, they've meddled in elections like you wouldn't believe.

01:17:02.000 I mean, I forget what the number I saw last week was.

01:17:04.000 I mean, in a significant way.

01:17:07.000 Yeah, I would say, I would reiterate what you say.

01:17:10.000 I think Google's probably one of the most dangerous companies out there in many different respects.

01:17:16.000 And the monopoly they have in the online video platform market where we went after them both for search preferencing and for pre-installs on the Android app.

01:17:28.000 I think that's just one component of the evil that is happening by Google.

01:17:36.000 There is more. And I think what we're doing by fighting on the antitrust thing is probably one of the most important cases that's out there on the antitrust front.

01:17:47.000 I think it's the most...

01:17:49.000 For us, it's obviously very important.

01:17:52.000 But also, I think a lot of people...

01:17:55.000 If you know, you kind of know how important it is.

01:17:57.000 You can kind of see our case laid out.

01:17:59.000 You can read the complaint. You can see how solid it is.

01:18:02.000 We're in discovery. We're in full discovery right now.

01:18:05.000 Depositions. Everything's going on right now.

01:18:08.000 It's pretty unique because everyone thought that it would have been...

01:18:13.000 You have to get to the discovery portion.

01:18:16.000 Google went and they did a motion to dismiss all our claims and the judge denied all of them.

01:18:22.000 I'm actually shocked because, I mean, the amount of money that Google spends on lobbying probably makes the military-industrial complex look like a bunch of low spenders.

01:18:33.000 Well, no, I mean, listen, it's a trillion-dollar industry for a reason.

01:18:36.000 It's a trillion-dollar business for a reason.

01:18:37.000 It's a monopoly. The amount of money they skim off every online transaction for the real estate, I mean, it's...

01:18:43.000 It's scary how much they make.

01:18:46.000 I don't think people even understand.

01:18:47.000 We need to fix that.

01:18:49.000 They can't have this type of monopoly.

01:18:51.000 It is not fair. It shouldn't be allowed.

01:18:55.000 There needs to be someone that's going to push back against it.

01:18:57.000 I know the DOJ is pushing back here and there, but What outcome are they going for?

01:19:03.000 I can tell you the outcome that Rumble is going for.

01:19:08.000 We're very serious and we really mean it.

01:19:12.000 We're going after them on it.

01:19:15.000 What do you think the timing of all of that is?

01:19:17.000 So I think there's a trial date set for, you know, there's already dates set.

01:19:22.000 I don't know them off the top of my head, but, you know, we're far down the path now in Discovery.

01:19:28.000 So, you know, it should hopefully be, well, I think trial set for 2025, so.

01:19:34.000 And some of these things, I guess more the media cases, you're sort of in there with Elon, because I guess they tried doing the same, similar to X. So, yeah.

01:19:42.000 Yeah. Elon went after Media Matters.

01:19:44.000 We went after another organization that defamed us.

01:19:50.000 We also have the same pattern of behavior by Media Matters that Elon has sued for, but he's already doing that case.

01:19:58.000 Does it make sense to pile on?

01:20:00.000 Maybe it does. But at this point, we took a little bit of a different approach, and you know what?

01:20:06.000 Maybe they're connected. By the way, I don't think anyone watching would be surprised if all of these things are well-coordinated, well-orchestrated with an intention.

01:20:19.000 I mean, they do that.

01:20:22.000 I mean, they're frankly much better at that.

01:20:24.000 I mean, that's the problem. I wish we were better at sort of being like, pick a target, go for it.

01:20:28.000 Like, everyone get on board.

01:20:30.000 I mean, honestly, as it comes to tech, I mean, you can tell me, but like, The amount of Republicans I see that tell me what I want to hear on tech, but they accept their $3,500 donation from Google, and they talk a big game every once in a while on TV, and then they vote for it.

01:20:46.000 I mean, it was sort of like the FISA insanity last week, right?

01:20:48.000 I'm like, wait a minute.

01:20:51.000 They're literally trying to take you out.

01:20:53.000 You'll take a $3,500 donation, give them what they want?

01:20:56.000 They're so off.

01:20:58.000 Why is that? Yeah, no, it's...

01:21:02.000 I can't figure it all out, but it's crazy right now.

01:21:08.000 When it comes to these organizations, I think they're all working in unison.

01:21:15.000 My working theory is that there is like...

01:21:19.000 A lot of money from a couple of organizations that are being dispersed down to hundreds of different non-profits and these non-profits are all kind of, they all kind of know each other and they all kind of have the same agenda and they're all kind of trying to do the same thing.

01:21:36.000 When you look at Media Matters and you look at Check My Ads and you look at what they're chasing every day, it's like, did they get a playbook?

01:21:45.000 Yeah, so it's like the talkers.

01:21:47.000 It's like watching the media take the shift talking points all throughout Russia, Russia, Russia.

01:21:50.000 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

01:21:53.000 It looks like there's a playbook and there's definitely funding for this behavior for these organizations.

01:22:00.000 And it's pretty scary because...

01:22:03.000 Who's funding all that? Where's the money coming from?

01:22:06.000 Is there an actual apparatus?

01:22:09.000 How is that actually working?

01:22:11.000 On the media side, from Media Matters to check my ads to all these groups and what they're doing, it's scary.

01:22:20.000 Yeah, I mean, I mean, obviously, you know, China is funding so much of the stuff, right?

01:22:25.000 I mean, but they're funding a lot of the political sort of discord stuff, you know, they're funding the, you know, let's make trains cool, you know, stuff, because I guess it just, they understand what that will ultimately do to society.

01:22:36.000 So they'll push it and, you know, jam it down our throats.

01:22:38.000 I'd be curious, you know, what are your thoughts on sort of what's going on with with TikTok?

01:22:43.000 You know, you talk about the ban, and you know, obviously it's a conflict, right?

01:22:46.000 Like, I don't want to ban anything in America, and yet if it's something that's being used as a, you know, a clear psyop.

01:22:52.000 Like, China would never allow rumble.

01:22:57.000 You know, in China, right?

01:22:58.000 They'd never allow that because they understand what it may be doing, even if it's not as, you know, as flagrant as some of what you see on a TikTok.

01:23:06.000 But like, you know, they know, hey, they're never going to let that voice in China because it's not good for what they want.

01:23:11.000 But at the same time, you want to be against a ban.

01:23:14.000 What are your thoughts going, you know?

01:23:16.000 TikTok's a great question because like, you just hit it.

01:23:21.000 Rumble is not allowed in China.

01:23:24.000 Why? Probably I could guess that we're perceived as a threat to their population for allowing freedom of expression.

01:23:29.000 So they see us as a weapon.

01:23:33.000 That's why we're not allowed in their country.

01:23:34.000 They don't like it. They see it as a weapon.

01:23:36.000 Probably the same reason why Brazil sees us...

01:23:40.000 Oh, yeah, 100%.

01:23:41.000 All these countries, you can add France and Brazil to the same group as China now, in terms of trying to censor their population from seeing what they want to see or hearing what they want to hear.

01:23:52.000 And TikTok's no different.

01:23:54.000 It's like... Why are we not allowed to go into the Chinese market, but we're totally allowing Chinese companies to come into our market with no tariff or no nothing?

01:24:06.000 I always ask that question.

01:24:07.000 I don't know what the right answer to that question is.

01:24:09.000 Those are decisions better for you.

01:24:12.000 I don't know. I don't get it.

01:24:14.000 Like I said, I'm torn.

01:24:16.000 It's a very big...

01:24:19.000 We gotta practice what we preach, but I also understand that China takes that and weaponizes it against us.

01:24:24.000 You know what I mean? Correct. If America, you know, someone was hit by, oh, it's a humanitarian abuse.

01:24:28.000 Meanwhile, China has millions of people in the Uyghur slave camps in, you know, western China, and it's like, you know, but they'll go to the UN Security Council and they'll take, like, one incident and be like, see, look at what you're doing.

01:24:40.000 Like, it's so ridiculous how hypocritical they are, and yet they can get away with it, right?

01:24:45.000 So, It's a hard one because you understand.

01:24:48.000 I know the TikTok algorithm in China.

01:24:52.000 The big TikTok stars in China are genius kids doing physics projects.

01:24:57.000 They're trying to encourage that kind of behavior.

01:24:59.000 In America, it's like, let's find the biggest dumbass in the world and make him a hero so that an entire generation of people wants to emulate a dumbass.

01:25:10.000 I don't know, man. I guess if you go for it, you deserve it, but it's clearly a PSYOP and a component of it.

01:25:17.000 It can be considered a weapon the same way we're considered as a weapon over there.

01:25:21.000 At the end of the day, what is their purpose and why are they doing it?

01:25:25.000 We don't know what their algorithm is doing and what it's pushing and what agenda it has.

01:25:31.000 Clearly, it could have an agenda.

01:25:32.000 We've seen bias. You see what Google did when they launched their AI? Talk about bias there, right?

01:25:36.000 So, like, how is it that China's not going to have a bias in their algorithm?

01:25:39.000 Are we going to assume they don't? Of course they're going to have a bias.

01:25:41.000 Do you think this notion that's been proposed of, like, sort of, hey, you know, make it, like, an American subsidiary, so at least the data...

01:25:47.000 You know, because, I mean, there's sort of the worry about sort of the data, right?

01:25:50.000 They're spying on your 16-year-old kid, and then as someone who has a 16-year-old kid and a 15-year-old kid and a 12-year-old kid, like...

01:25:56.000 Kids are dumb. They make stupid mistakes.

01:25:59.000 If someone's listening in on everything like that, and that can be used against them in 30 years, it does feel like a point of leverage to ultimately manipulate the political levers.

01:26:08.000 That sounds crazy, but when you think about millions of kids on there, they're like, hey, some of those kids are going to become congressmen.

01:26:13.000 They're going to become senators. Some of them may become presidents.

01:26:18.000 Man, it feels scary.

01:26:19.000 Like, I always say, for me, contrary to popular belief, I was not always the upstanding citizen that I am today.

01:26:26.000 I probably had a couple wild years in me.

01:26:28.000 And, like, you know, I literally thank God every day that, like, when I was in college and maybe, you know, weekends in high school, that, like, I didn't have a video camera in my pocket.

01:26:37.000 You know, or a camera, you know, or Snapchat and instant messaging.

01:26:42.000 It's like, kids do dumb shit.

01:26:44.000 And like, they should be able to do dumb shit.

01:26:46.000 I have to have that conversation with my kids all the time, which is like, hey man, like, you got a target on your back.

01:26:51.000 You know, for my boys, like, hey, you're white men with the last name Trump.

01:26:56.000 Like, you're basically fucked.

01:26:59.000 You get no second chances.

01:27:01.000 You don't get any benefit of the doubt in America today in 2024.

01:27:05.000 You get no chances.

01:27:07.000 Don't screw it up. It's scary.

01:27:10.000 Yeah, and you have a foreign nation that holds all that data.

01:27:12.000 Correct. That would clearly weaponize it, because they've shown that.

01:27:18.000 I'm very torn about the whole TikTok situation, because my ultimate mission is freedom of expression, and really pushing that human right.

01:27:29.000 And then when you now have countries and different borders and different places in the world and you have a foreign nation that could want to do something that's really negative, what do you do in that situation?

01:27:42.000 If Rumble can't... Just look at Rumble.

01:27:43.000 If Rumble can't operate there...

01:27:45.000 Yeah. And they can operate here.

01:27:47.000 Something is wrong, fundamentally wrong with that.

01:27:50.000 It's like, you know, I think your dad always used to say, like, if you're going to put taxes on us this way, we're going to put taxes on it the same way.

01:27:56.000 Seems fair. I think that's just, like, the perfect way to look at it.

01:27:59.000 And I think, like, if we have to pay a tax to go to China, let us know what it is.

01:28:05.000 And if they have to pay a tax coming over here, we'll let them know what it is.

01:28:08.000 I think that's fair. And when it comes to something like TikTok and Rumble, it's...

01:28:13.000 It's just weird because they probably perceive us as a weapon, but yet we're totally comfortable of not perceiving them as a weapon and allowing them to operate here and potentially be manipulating a lot of minds.

01:28:26.000 Speaking of sort of manipulating minds, what are your thoughts on sort of AI? It's dangerous.

01:28:33.000 It feels...

01:28:34.000 A year ago, almost no one was talking about it.

01:28:37.000 I mean, you knew about it.

01:28:38.000 I mean, from the Terminator movies that didn't work out so well, Doesn't seem improbable at this point.

01:28:45.000 What are your thoughts there?

01:28:47.000 The good, the bad, and the ugly?

01:28:49.000 I think, you know, this is something I've like really deeply tried to understand over the last year.

01:28:54.000 And I've gotten to a point where I think I really understand where I could go and The impacts it could have, the positive impacts it could have, the negative impacts it could have.

01:29:04.000 I think when Google released Gemini and we got to see how manipulative things are going to be, I'm at a point where if you use it for recommendations and use it for things that are like...

01:29:23.000 Trivial, like, small things.

01:29:24.000 It could be very helpful, but, like, if you're going to try to create, like, a complete AI person, like, that could get pretty scary.

01:29:32.000 Like, it's a...

01:29:33.000 Everyone's going to have a different motive.

01:29:36.000 Google's going to have a different motive than Rumble's going to have, and Rumble's going to have a different motive than Meta's going to have.

01:29:43.000 Oh, it's a little scary, though, but you think of, like, sort of Meta and Google.

01:29:45.000 I mean, obviously leading the charge there, you know...

01:29:48.000 Now our enemies are too, right?

01:29:50.000 So like, I sort of loved actually what Elon said a while ago, which was like, hey man, this is really scary.

01:29:54.000 We have to submit regulations. But the problem is I look at it like, you think Russia is going to regulate the use of AI for weapons?

01:30:01.000 Do you think Iran will? Do you think China will?

01:30:03.000 And if they won't, but we do...

01:30:08.000 It feels like the nature of AI is sort of this exponential, you know, always exponential growth.

01:30:13.000 If you put any sort of limitations on it, your enemies just become more powerful than you.

01:30:17.000 It's the fear of the unknown right now.

01:30:19.000 It's like, we don't know.

01:30:20.000 And you just, like, think about that.

01:30:22.000 Like, if Russia or Iran or China wants to do, they can do whatever they want.

01:30:27.000 We don't know where they're going to go with AI. We don't know where they are.

01:30:30.000 We don't know where, like, we probably don't even know where Google really is or where X really is in terms of where they're going to be.

01:30:36.000 But, like, AI is a...

01:30:39.000 They're spending billions upon billions, and it ain't just one company doing it.

01:30:45.000 It's a lot of companies spending billions and billions in hardware right now to try to really get these models going.

01:30:50.000 And we're going to get to a point where they're going to get it to a pretty...

01:30:55.000 It's a pretty sophisticated spot, and what they decide to do and what everyone decides to do will be different than the other one.

01:31:05.000 Regulation is like, you know, I don't know.

01:31:07.000 I don't know how you'd regulate it.

01:31:09.000 How are you going to regulate China?

01:31:12.000 Independent thoughts. Someone types out an algorithm.

01:31:14.000 And you're certainly not going to regulate your enemies, right?

01:31:18.000 So that's sort of the...

01:31:19.000 I agree with Elon in terms of it spiraling out of control, but I think...

01:31:23.000 If you're not doing what your enemies are doing, and you're limiting yourself, I sort of feel like that's almost an assured way to lose.

01:31:30.000 And again, Elon's probably forgotten more about AI than I will ever actually know in my life, but it just felt like He doesn't strike me as a naive guy, but it felt like a naive comment.

01:31:39.000 Does that make sense? Because it's like, I just don't believe any of our adversaries, and there's plenty of them, would ever sort of put themselves in check, right?

01:31:51.000 They're going to do whatever they want to do.

01:31:52.000 Yeah, they're going to do whatever they want to do.

01:31:56.000 I don't know how much further we are in America than they are in different countries.

01:31:59.000 We might be behind. It feels like we're behind on a lot of things these days.

01:32:03.000 Well, because we're focused on the wrong things, right?

01:32:06.000 Correct. Our military, which is sort of the place where so many of these technologies throughout, whether it's...

01:32:12.000 Everything from planes to, you know, GPS to, like, all sort of started there.

01:32:17.000 But we're not concerned about these things, you know what I mean?

01:32:21.000 China was testing hypersonic nuclear-capable missiles, and we're worried about, you know, gender theory.

01:32:26.000 My friends in the SEAL teams literally have complained to me that they're doing more time in diversity training than they are shooting in And you know, hey, like, I don't know.

01:32:36.000 Maybe I'm old-fashioned. I want my, like, Navy SEALs to be able to shoot, not recite the genders and gender theory and, like, check some box.

01:32:46.000 And, like, I got shit on by the media for saying it.

01:32:48.000 And then, like, you know, Rob O'Neill, Carl Hinkby, like, a bunch of my SEALs that are friends that are, like, out there.

01:32:53.000 They're like, it's 100% true.

01:32:54.000 It's a serious fucking problem.

01:32:55.000 Don's 100% right. They're like, oh.

01:32:57.000 Then it disappeared. They didn't do the story about, hey, this is actually a problem.

01:33:01.000 It was like, okay, we're just not gonna shit on Don for this anymore because we're okay with it happening.

01:33:05.000 And it seems very problematic.

01:33:06.000 And that's the problem with a lot of things in the world right now is like, you know, as a video company, we should only be focused on video.

01:33:13.000 I shouldn't be concentrated on, you know, This diversity stuff.

01:33:18.000 That's not our business.

01:33:20.000 If you want to create a diversity company, go create a diversity company.

01:33:23.000 But it shouldn't be bleeding into every single category.

01:33:27.000 Enforced. Enforced on every single category of work, etc.

01:33:31.000 And I think that's kind of one of the problems right now.

01:33:36.000 The same thing happened with Russell Brand coming, the UK government with Russell Brand.

01:33:40.000 Like, they come to us about an allegation and they expect us to censor, listen, we're just a video company.

01:33:46.000 We're not here to be the law to judge Russell Brand.

01:33:49.000 And yet, but everyone else did.

01:33:51.000 I mean, like I said, I didn't know Russell.

01:33:54.000 I actually followed him because it was sort of interesting to see someone sort of get red-pilled in real time.

01:33:57.000 And I don't... I don't believe he believes a lot of the stuff that I believe about certain things in politics, but he was sort of a free speech absolutist and was fine with that.

01:34:07.000 At the Rumble opening, when you guys opened up in Sarasota, the corporate offices, I spent some time with them.

01:34:14.000 It was interesting because I was like, wow, couldn't imagine two more opposite people in a certain way?

01:34:19.000 We actually had a great time.

01:34:21.000 It was sort of funny.

01:34:24.000 We started off with, I actually led it with a totally inappropriate joke that he found really funny.

01:34:30.000 And that was, he's like, oh, you and I are going to get along great.

01:34:32.000 And it was like, I didn't have that in my bingo card, but it worked out.

01:34:36.000 But then, you know, when that nonsense happened, you know, it was so shocking to me because I've gotten so used to it now, the attacks on my father.

01:34:43.000 It's like, 45 years ago, Donald Trump did something like that.

01:34:46.000 So for 45 years, you didn't say anything?

01:34:48.000 Like, you know, Donald Trump had a leading show.

01:34:51.000 You were a big fan of that show. It didn't matter.

01:34:52.000 But once he became a Republican, that's when it became a problem, right?

01:34:56.000 It felt like Russell Brand, once he was married to Katy Perry, he was probably one of the world's super couples or whatever the hell, at least in pop culture terms, which is a big deal.

01:35:06.000 And, like, that was never an issue.

01:35:08.000 All this stuff happened prior to that, but it was fine if he was dating Katy Perry.

01:35:12.000 It was just a good story from a night out.

01:35:15.000 Now, he said a couple things that may be perceived as conservative or free speech or whatever, and now he's a serial rapist.

01:35:21.000 I was like, it was very sort of Brett Kavanaugh.

01:35:24.000 Magically this happened. No one remembers anything.

01:35:27.000 There's no details. There's no evidence.

01:35:28.000 There's no proof. But everyone says it's the gospel.

01:35:32.000 And I feel like, obviously I see him on Rumble still, but on the other platforms, he doesn't show up in my feed anymore.

01:35:38.000 It doesn't populate.

01:35:41.000 It doesn't show up in the things I'd be interested in, even if he's talking about a subject matter that...

01:35:46.000 I'm clearly talking about. You know, I could talk about a pair of sneakers right here, and the next 50 ads that pop up in Meta or on Instagram are going to be about sneakers.

01:35:54.000 They know what I'm looking for.

01:35:55.000 They understand it, but they're purposely not showing me him.

01:35:57.000 They're not giving him that platform.

01:36:00.000 Yeah, no, when we received a letter from the MP and the UK government, it didn't take us more than 30 minutes to put a response out and say, uh-uh.

01:36:11.000 We're a video company.

01:36:12.000 Leave us alone. We don't care.

01:36:14.000 We're going to focus on video if he violates terms of service of our video platform.

01:36:19.000 We'll deal with it. But what's happening in his life, if you're going to go after every single character with something that happened in their life, an allegation that we don't even know who it's from, like an anonymous allegation, well, I got news for you because there's a lot of people on YouTube that are going to have a lot of problems if that's the case.

01:36:36.000 But it didn't stop them from doing it, right?

01:36:38.000 It's still happening.

01:36:39.000 Like I said, he was a phenomenon in all of my feeds, whether it was X or Whether it was Instagram, obviously Rumble, and like I said, right now, there are acquaintances, but other than Rumble, it doesn't show up anymore.

01:36:55.000 And I think he's doing great on Rumble still, but...

01:36:57.000 It still had the effect.

01:36:59.000 So even if it's bullshit, it's having some sort of effect.

01:37:03.000 Because I imagine others who may not be paying as much attention, who may not have been like, okay, I like what he's saying because I'm willing to listen to someone who doesn't necessarily agree with me if we're sort of unified by certain basic tenets.

01:37:14.000 And I felt like that was it.

01:37:15.000 It was a cool conversation because it wasn't just someone telling me what I wanted to hear.

01:37:20.000 It was a different approach, but under that same guise of free speech, which was so important.

01:37:25.000 And yet, I do feel like they've effectively been able to shut some of that off.

01:37:29.000 Well, YouTube did it. They openly said they were doing it.

01:37:34.000 They're going to demonetize them.

01:37:36.000 It's crazy. It's so crazy to watch these companies that are supposed to be focused on one thing.

01:37:41.000 Actually, when we hire people from these big tech companies that come over to us, they actually tell us that one of the reasons why they're leaving is we're not working on product anymore.

01:37:50.000 anymore, we're working on some specific thing that has nothing to do with the product whatsoever

01:37:59.000 and has something to do with some political social issue.

01:38:02.000 And they're not working on the code of the product anymore.

01:38:05.000 And they're like, I just want to work on a cool product.

01:38:08.000 I'm not here to be part of an NGO.

01:38:10.000 So I saw that.

01:38:12.000 I guess it was during the Iowa caucuses or whatever.

01:38:14.000 I was in Iowa.

01:38:15.000 I did Tim Pool's podcast live there.

01:38:17.000 And I don't know.

01:38:18.000 we got off on some tangent, you're talking about like, you And I was like, listen, I think we should give them a bullet each.

01:38:24.000 And I think it's wonderful. And like, that's great.

01:38:26.000 Like gone, no problem.

01:38:27.000 And basically they was like, it was like, oh, should we take that one down now?

01:38:30.000 I was like, what do you mean? He was like, he's like, no, that was a really good show.

01:38:33.000 But like, YouTube's going to ding us and they're going to take us off.

01:38:35.000 They're deplatform us for two weeks.

01:38:36.000 And he was like, like, we're literally having like a joking conversation.

01:38:40.000 I mean, I guess I'm not entirely joking.

01:38:42.000 I I guess if there's one class in society that I will show no quarter to, it's pedophiles.

01:38:48.000 But it wasn't that way.

01:38:52.000 I wasn't instigating violence or doing anything like that.

01:38:55.000 I was like, this is my opinion. I don't think...

01:38:57.000 And it was like, well, do we just take this thing down now because we're probably going to get thrown off of YouTube if we don't?

01:39:03.000 And I was like, I thought that was a pretty good show.

01:39:05.000 He's like, no, it was a great show.

01:39:06.000 That was a lot of fun. But this is what's going to happen.

01:39:09.000 Because you had an opinion. This is the problem with all the other platforms is they lack authenticity.

01:39:13.000 They're forced to not be authentic in what they believe and what their true beliefs are.

01:39:19.000 They're... They're sugarcoating it.

01:39:22.000 They're even changing their opinion just to fulfill the policies so they can be monetized or whatnot.

01:39:28.000 And this is why Rumble's growing, is that you can be purely authentic.

01:39:32.000 You can say exactly how you feel within the terms of services that are on Rumble.

01:39:38.000 And I think just people are so sick of the fake shit.

01:39:42.000 They're so sick of it.

01:39:43.000 They just... Authenticity is everything now.

01:39:47.000 I think everybody in the chat can detect authenticity.

01:39:51.000 They can detect when you're fake.

01:39:53.000 That's one thing that Rumble enables everyone to do.

01:39:57.000 You can actually sit there and have a conversation and make a joke and have fun.

01:40:01.000 Fleet Lord Atvar, woodchippers for pedos.

01:40:05.000 I think this is, if I run for president one day, maybe that will be my slogan, because I think we should all agree on that.

01:40:11.000 But they don't. The Democrats these days don't seem to care.

01:40:14.000 That was an interesting thing. I was the one that introduced Tim Ballard, who did The Sound of Freedom and everything like that, to my five.

01:40:20.000 I met him in Utah, some event, and he talked about this human trafficking thing.

01:40:24.000 And everyone understood it was a problem, but you're like...

01:40:26.000 It's tens of children.

01:40:27.000 It's like, no, it's tens of thousands of children.

01:40:29.000 I was like... So I introduced this thing.

01:40:31.000 I met with my father in the administration.

01:40:33.000 And they finally announced they're going to put this commission and they're going to fund it with $300 billion.

01:40:37.000 I'm like, this is great. Everyone can get behind stopping child sex trafficking.

01:40:43.000 This is a 100% issue in politics where nothing's 100%.

01:40:47.000 And I was wrong.

01:40:48.000 The left lost their mind that we would even do...

01:40:50.000 It was like... It was just one of those moments where you're like, wow, society as a whole has collapsed.

01:40:56.000 Where do you see rumble in five years, Chris, with everything going on?

01:41:01.000 I think we have four pillars, four products that we're really focused on now.

01:41:06.000 Now everything's finally out.

01:41:08.000 I think we're at the very first time in this business where the four major products are at a really good point.

01:41:15.000 First is the Rumble video platform.

01:41:18.000 I think that the Rumble video platform will slowly get larger and larger when it comes to the televisions.

01:41:25.000 I think that we're ultimately disrupting cable television and corporate media on television.

01:41:31.000 You can actually download the Rumble app.

01:41:35.000 You can watch Triggered On your TV, which I recommend doing maybe for family dinners.

01:41:41.000 Get everyone fired up.

01:41:43.000 Create your next conservative.

01:41:45.000 Unindoctrinate your children after a day in school.

01:41:48.000 I think we should all do this.

01:41:49.000 You can do that also, guys.

01:41:51.000 You don't have to be on your computer.

01:41:52.000 Yeah, you can watch it on your LG TV, Samsung TV, Roku TV, Apple TV, Android TV, Fire TV. I'm sure there's more, but you can watch it on your TV, which is, I think, A lot of this live streaming and these shows are going to slowly start replacing cable television.

01:42:10.000 I think it has to because I feel like the cable model, it's like...

01:42:13.000 It's not authentic. It's the same show.

01:42:15.000 I mean, there's shows and some of these guys are my friends.

01:42:18.000 I can watch the show tonight and go to the show 18 months ago and it's probably the same thing.

01:42:23.000 It's all agenda-driven like we discussed earlier.

01:42:26.000 It's not authentic.

01:42:29.000 When you're watching someone on Rumble...

01:42:31.000 You're going to get, like, their true views.

01:42:32.000 You're going to get to really understand Donald Trump Jr.

01:42:35.000 Like, you're really going to get to understand the creator that you're watching on Rumble.

01:42:39.000 And there's no agenda. I don't call you and tell you what to say.

01:42:42.000 Yeah, there's plenty of libtards on Rumble, too.

01:42:44.000 You can go follow them. I wouldn't recommend it.

01:42:46.000 I'd say you watch this show over and over again, but...

01:42:50.000 So the second component is the Rumble Studio, which is our live streaming product.

01:42:55.000 So we're going to try to make it a lot easier for everyone to monetize and stream to all platforms agnostically and make live streaming very simple.

01:43:03.000 Because I do think without that product, that product will enable an economy and monetization for creators, but it'll also produce a lot of content for Rumble itself and all platforms.

01:43:14.000 The third product is the Rumble Advertising Center, which we're going to compete directly against Google AdSense and Google Ad Exchange.

01:43:20.000 Google has a monopoly on the advertising industry, and we want to disrupt that.

01:43:26.000 Truth Social is one of our largest partners on the Rumble Advertising Center, so we monetize We started monetizing even TMZ recently.

01:43:35.000 They started testing their stuff.

01:43:36.000 They're using Rumble Advertising Center to test some of their video inventory.

01:43:41.000 Drudge Reports testing some of our inventory.

01:43:45.000 Gateway Pundit, Breitbart, a lot of different publishers can now use Rumble Advertising Center to monetize, which is great because a lot of these places were canceled by Google.

01:43:54.000 So now Rumble is providing a solution for a large part of the market that wasn't able to monetize.

01:44:00.000 So Rumble Advertising Center is going to go heads up against Google's advertising ecosystem, which is a monopoly.

01:44:08.000 And the fourth component is the cloud.

01:44:12.000 None of these first three things are...

01:44:14.000 You're never going to provide authenticity in any of these three things and be able to do any of these three things without having a highway that is going to treat everybody fairly and treat everybody under...

01:44:27.000 Treat everybody unlike the way AWS and Google and Microsoft would treat you on the same principles that Rumble has, which is freedom of expression, authenticity, etc.

01:44:40.000 So the Rumble Cloud is the core component and it's going after the profit center of Silicon Valley.

01:44:47.000 And five years from now, I see all these four products much bigger than what they are today.

01:44:52.000 And I think that a lot of new businesses will start emerging because of these products.

01:44:58.000 Because now there's an advertising ecosystem, you can build a conservative product and monetize it unlike you could do probably a couple years ago.

01:45:07.000 You can now build on a cloud platform that you don't have to worry about.

01:45:13.000 Think about churches and think about religions that have beliefs.

01:45:20.000 There could be a day where Amazon says, you know, we don't like this belief in this...

01:45:24.000 They kind of already are. Amazon, they're left of even our radicalized DOJ, and our DOJ and our FBI have called practicing Catholics domestic terrorists.

01:45:35.000 So if you don't think it's going to happen, like...

01:45:38.000 Your own DOJ are, you know, federal law enforcement.

01:45:42.000 The FBI thinks practicing Catholics.

01:45:44.000 Banks turned over data to them of people who bought Bibles or shopped at Bass Pro Shops because that labeled you a conservative.

01:45:50.000 If you were a concerned parent or mother, you go to a PTA meeting and question, you know, the DEI, BLM indoctrination going on in our public schools.

01:46:00.000 Like, that made you a domestic terrorist.

01:46:01.000 Like, I don't think any of these...

01:46:03.000 These are not, like... Fringe outliers.

01:46:06.000 They may have been five years ago, but it's happening at the highest levels of our government.

01:46:11.000 We don't think that's going to be adopted by Amazon.

01:46:13.000 They're not going to take that same approach and know that it's just fine.

01:46:16.000 They can get away with it. Of course they will.

01:46:18.000 They've not shown us anything that would lead us to believe otherwise.

01:46:21.000 No, they haven't. And this is it.

01:46:24.000 This is why we've built all these products to be able to really address this need in the market.

01:46:31.000 And essentially the most important thing is create a highway based on free expression in the First Amendment, which is something that doesn't exist anymore until RumbleCloud came along in the last month for the rest of the public.

01:46:42.000 That's where I see this platform going.

01:46:46.000 I think ultimately five to ten years from now, I hope that we replace cable television to a large degree and we really change the market in terms of independent, freeing creators and creating independence for yourself so that you can broadcast to your fans and to your subscribers in a way that there's no impediment or agenda or anybody telling you what to do.

01:47:10.000 It means there's going to be a lot of opinions on Rumble, and a lot of things you don't like on Rumble, but a lot of things you will like.

01:47:16.000 That's okay. I think that choice is ultimately, you know, the best ideas win in that marketplace, and that's what we want to foster.

01:47:24.000 Okay, so last question. What's your favorite show on Rumble, and why is it triggered?

01:47:30.000 I love that question.

01:47:32.000 So, you know, we're super happy with this show.

01:47:35.000 Obviously, it's been, I think we had like 20,000 people watching right now when I looked a little earlier.

01:47:40.000 It was at 20,000 when I was watching it earlier.

01:47:44.000 I got to do a couple more days a week because I feel like I missed out only doing two days a week.

01:47:48.000 I gotta balance that with life.

01:47:50.000 Wait, wait, wait. Let's put it to the chat right now.

01:47:52.000 Put ones in the chat if you want five days a week.

01:47:55.000 I know you don't want to hear that.

01:47:57.000 Oh, God. Put ones in the chat if you want more triggered during the week.

01:48:05.000 We'd love to have... Yeah, well, that's right.

01:48:07.000 Guys, download the Rumble app.

01:48:08.000 Make sure, you know, that way you can also put notifications on.

01:48:11.000 Again, because... Okay, here we go.

01:48:12.000 Spam. Spam the chat once, Chad.

01:48:14.000 Just spam. Spam. Yeah, five days, yes.

01:48:16.000 That person didn't understand instructions, but they're going...

01:48:19.000 A lot of ones... Okay. Okay, yeah, one person.

01:48:22.000 Two days is fine with me. I can be a little overwhelming, but 17 days a week, that's...

01:48:26.000 I appreciate that.

01:48:29.000 This is great. Yeah.

01:48:30.000 Okay, well, I may be in trouble, but...

01:48:33.000 Oh boy. Well, anyway, I wish I wouldn't have done that one.

01:48:39.000 Guys, thank you so much always for tuning in.

01:48:43.000 Chris, thanks for being here and what you're doing.

01:48:45.000 Guys, again, it may not be applicable to everyone, but if you have the businesses, start checking out RumbleCloud.

01:48:50.000 That's going to be expanding into more.

01:48:54.000 But watch these things as they progress.

01:48:57.000 Check out the other services. Again, If you get apps and you have the Samsung TVs and the other TVs, check it out there.

01:49:05.000 It's you guys that make all of this possible.

01:49:08.000 Guys like Chris are actually out there building it.

01:49:11.000 I'm out there. I'll try to push it.

01:49:13.000 I don't have your technical expertise with this stuff, so I just sort of know what I'm good at, and I'll try to do that.

01:49:19.000 But it's you guys that make it all possible.

01:49:21.000 We are at the point where it's...

01:49:24.000 It's important. We got to fight for all of these things.

01:49:27.000 So, Chris, thanks so much for what you're doing with all of it.

01:49:30.000 And we're going to win this fight.

01:49:32.000 And it's because of you guys.

01:49:33.000 So, Chris, thank you so much, guys.

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A Court of Corruption: NY Trial is Pure Politics, Plus World Burns Under Biden, Live with Rumble CEO Chris Pavlovski | TRIGGERED Ep.128

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