Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - America First Means Reviving the American Dream, Interview with Peter Schweizer | TRIGGERED Ep.203

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:05:27.000 I hope you all had a very Merry Christmas and are excited for what's to come in 2025. Last show of the year.

00:05:36.000 I hope you all have a great new year.

00:05:38.000 I'm super excited about getting 2024 past us and just getting to work in 2025, fixing our country.

00:05:46.000 Obviously, there's been a lot happening, and I guess what I like most about our MAGA movement is that we don't shy away from debate or actually avoid serious policy conversations.

00:05:58.000 We actually embrace tough questions and listening to different viewpoints.

00:06:03.000 It's one of the reasons I like doing this show because I get to hear real feedback from all of you.

00:06:09.000 I'm actually usually reading the comments in the meantime.

00:06:11.000 Sometimes even after a show, I'll scroll back and see what people are thinking.

00:06:14.000 Gets me sort of in tune with what's going on.

00:06:17.000 Even like listening to some of the trolls sometimes.

00:06:19.000 But one thing is for certain, guys.

00:06:23.000 We will be ready on day one to deliver for you, the American people, and revive the American dream.

00:06:29.000 That American dream that has been so lost for so many.

00:06:32.000 That's been our biggest export, your American dream, for far too long.

00:06:37.000 Tonight, We'll also be joined by author Peter Schweitzer, who has so many major investigations on the Bidens, on China, on corruption, and what they're trying to get away with.

00:06:51.000 You won't want to miss it.

00:06:53.000 Again, this is all about getting it out there, making it transparent, making sure that people understand what not just the Bidens, but so many leaders in America are doing, selling us out so that we can fix it.

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00:09:00.000 And now, let's get into all of the top headlines.

00:09:05.000 First off, have you noticed lately that the media is now admitting everything we've been right about for the last four years?

00:09:13.000 They finally stopped lying about Joe Biden's cognitive decline.

00:09:17.000 They've admitted that Kamala Harris had no idea what she was doing, and they even admit That we have a border problem.

00:09:25.000 I'm shocked to hear it, folks.

00:09:26.000 It's like the most obvious thing in the world.

00:09:29.000 It's just four years too late.

00:09:32.000 And now the Washington Post of all places just admitted that we've been right all along about how team Biden was openly supportive of using the justice system to attack my father.

00:09:46.000 The paper reported, and I quote, in private, Biden has also said he should have picked someone other than Merrick Garland as Attorney General, complaining about the Justice Department's slowness, slowness under Garland.

00:10:00.000 I mean, you know, they make up a bunch of stuff.

00:10:02.000 They go after my father across the board.

00:10:04.000 They do this.

00:10:04.000 And it wasn't fast enough.

00:10:06.000 They needed to go more aggressive than the insanity that we saw play out before our very eyes.

00:10:12.000 And they needed to be more aggressive in not prosecuting Biden's son, Hunter, according to people familiar with his comments.

00:10:24.000 Think about how insane that is, guys.

00:10:26.000 In other words, Joe Biden is upset that his efforts to weaponize the Justice Department failed.

00:10:33.000 It's literally hard to imagine a more aggressive weaponization than the one conducted by Merrick Garland.

00:10:40.000 If you got any more aggressive we'd have a serious problem beyond the already serious problems that we had to deal with but a problem that is perhaps unrecoverable.

00:10:50.000 After all, they raided Mar-a-Lago just a year and a half after my father left office.

00:10:57.000 Biden wishes that the DOJ imprisoned my father on January 21st, 2017. The good news is we won bigger than ever.

00:11:07.000 And now we can stop this madness from ever happening again.

00:11:12.000 Also, that same Washington Post piece quoted Jake Sullivan, Biden's failed national security advisor.

00:11:20.000 For a quick refresher, Jake Sullivan is the guy who said the Middle East was quieter than ever just a week before the October 7th attack in Israel.

00:11:30.000 Check this out.

00:11:32.000 The Iranian attacks against US forces have stopped.

00:11:35.000 Our presence in Iraq is stable.

00:11:37.000 I emphasize for now because all of that can change.

00:11:39.000 And the Middle East region is quieter today.

00:11:44.000 Since that clip, Israel has been at war with Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran.

00:11:52.000 With Iran directly attacking Israel, not just through proxies anymore, with missiles twice.

00:12:00.000 And Sirius leader Assad got chased out of the country.

00:12:04.000 Hardly a quiet region, but let's just say Jake Sullivan, the Biden administration, the Democrat propaganda arm in the media.

00:12:13.000 It's not like they've been right about a lot, but that doesn't matter.

00:12:16.000 But Jake Sullivan still thinks he's a genius.

00:12:19.000 And he wants you to think that Joe Biden...

00:12:23.000 Is a genius as well, folks.

00:12:26.000 This is what Jake told the Washington Post, and I quote, the president has been operating on a time horizon measured in decades, while the political cycle is measured in four years.

00:12:39.000 Right.

00:12:40.000 Yes, Joe Biden, the same guy that can't remember what day it is, falls up and down stairs of Air Force One almost weekly, is making strategic moves, thinking decades in advance, guys.

00:12:53.000 He's playing 4-D chess.

00:12:57.000 It's very believable.

00:12:59.000 Back in reality, we have some new statistics showing us just how awful America has really gotten under left-wing rule.

00:13:08.000 Homelessness is surging across the nation.

00:13:11.000 New data shows that there was a whopping 18% increase in homelessness in just 2024.

00:13:19.000 18%.

00:13:20.000 The Associated Press acknowledged that this surge in homelessness was in part due to a, quote, surge in migrants.

00:13:27.000 Who could have imagined?

00:13:29.000 You mean the migrants that they're bringing in, randomly screening the 13,000 murderers and 16,000 rapists and 600,000 criminals, according to Biden's own ICE department.

00:13:41.000 You know, they're not bringing all that much to the table.

00:13:45.000 I am shocked to hear that, folks.

00:13:47.000 Shocked.

00:13:49.000 All of this chaos was controlled and caused by Democrats from a local level to the center of the swamp in Washington, D.C. And meanwhile, we just found out just how extensively China has hacked into our phone system.

00:14:06.000 China has hacked into nine different U.S. telecom firms.

00:14:10.000 I can't even name nine, so it's probably almost all of them, and has access to private texts and phone conversations in recent years.

00:14:18.000 And it's just one of the many examples of China taking aim at our national security. 0.96

00:14:24.000 We'll get into more of this with Peter Schweitzer shortly.

00:14:28.000 But instead of China, Democrats are more worried about sending more of your hard-earned money to Ukraine.

00:14:37.000 Of course, it never ends.

00:14:39.000 I wonder how much it's getting kicked back to the big guy and the thousands of other big guys in the Washington DC swamp, in the military industrial complex, in big war.

00:14:52.000 I imagine it's a lot.

00:14:54.000 Today, the Biden administration announced it's sending an additional $2.5 billion to Ukraine.

00:15:01.000 I don't know where we're at total, but it's got to be pushing like $300 billion, and that doesn't include the $250 billion that the Pentagon lost.

00:15:08.000 That probably also went there, whatever wasn't given to their cronies.

00:15:13.000 Like I told you before, these Biden bureaucrats are trying to create as many headaches as possible on the way out. 1.00

00:15:21.000 They want to waste as much of your money as possible so that America doesn't recover under Trump.

00:15:31.000 For the common sense policies of my father's incoming administration to work, that they can talk about these failures, even if they're ones demonstrably doing it themselves, to you, with your money, for no reason other than taking care of themselves and their cronies.

00:15:49.000 While Democrats are dishing out money to Zelensky, here's what parts of North Carolina still look like after the hurricanes back in October.

00:15:58.000 This video was taken today.

00:16:25.000 Obviously, this is one of the many reasons why we must revive America and put America first and Americans first on day one.

00:16:36.000 We owe it to the hardworking American families and workers who love this country to do everything we can to improve their quality of life.

00:16:47.000 America first means Americans first. 0.95

00:16:50.000 And that extends to every corner of this agenda.

00:16:54.000 From jobs, the economy, secure borders, safety, security, the list goes on and on.

00:17:02.000 We are not going to go back to the status quo where lobbyists or special interests control the agenda.

00:17:09.000 Those days are over.

00:17:11.000 You all control the agenda.

00:17:13.000 All of you who voted for my father to make America great again.

00:17:17.000 And now we have a broader coalition than ever, including huge swaths of young voters eager for a better future.

00:17:26.000 Even the young people.

00:17:27.000 Even the people who've been indoctrinated with left-wing propaganda and nonsense probably since kindergarten.

00:17:33.000 Even they get it.

00:17:35.000 That's how extreme it's become.

00:17:36.000 That's how insane the Democrat agenda has gotten.

00:17:40.000 Even college kids are openly all in on MAGA. Some of them are even using me in their fraternity hype videos.

00:17:50.000 Check this one out from Arizona State.

00:17:52.000 You can't make it up.

00:17:54.000 I love it.

00:17:55.000 Frat boys for Trump.

00:17:56.000 Let's keep it going.

00:17:57.000 Check this out.

00:17:58.000 This spot really put Donald Trump Jr. in their Rush video.

00:18:03.000 *music* So we're doing this for freedom!

00:18:12.000 We're doing this for patriotism.

00:18:14.000 We're doing this for our country.

00:18:16.000 Gen Z has gone full America first. 0.98

00:18:35.000 And guys, we are just getting started.

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00:19:36.000 Joining me now, the author of Blood Money, Secret Empires, and many more, host of Drill Down Podcast, author, investigative journalist, Peter Schweitzer.

00:19:49.000 Peter, great to have you here.

00:19:50.000 I hope you had a great Christmas, and hopefully we'll all have a better 2025. Yeah, I think we're going to have a great 2025, and thank you.

00:19:59.000 Had a great Christmas, and I hope you had the same.

00:20:02.000 Well, we did.

00:20:03.000 I had a great time with the family.

00:20:04.000 It was awesome.

00:20:06.000 New Year's is always a little rough.

00:20:08.000 My birthday is New Year's Eve, so tomorrow's my birthday.

00:20:12.000 I get older.

00:20:14.000 When I was a kid, New Year's Eve was a lot better because it was like, there's always something to do.

00:20:17.000 There's always a party.

00:20:18.000 There's always something.

00:20:19.000 I just lost my IFB. There's always something, but now it's sort of like...

00:20:25.000 Amateur night.

00:20:26.000 And I realized that.

00:20:28.000 And so, you know, I get to be around a thousand drunk people giving me their political opinions that I don't necessarily want to hear.

00:20:36.000 While I love Mar-a-Lago, it's sort of like, you know, by about midnight when everyone's like, you know, 12 beers deep or, you know, whatever it is they're drinking, you know, the close talking opinions.

00:20:49.000 You know, it's not for me.

00:20:51.000 You wouldn't know it, but I'm basically a recluse.

00:20:53.000 You know, I'm okay with a mic when I have a big crowd, but I don't like being around a lot of people if I can avoid it.

00:20:59.000 I like fishing, hunting, and like two people, so it's a...

00:21:02.000 But...

00:21:05.000 That's awesome.

00:21:05.000 Yeah, and I imagine being at Mar-a-Lago is a little bit like being at Woodstock, you know, and you're in a band or you're a singer and everybody's telling you, giving you musical advice, and you're like, you know, I'm good.

00:21:15.000 I'm on the stage.

00:21:16.000 This will be like year like nine of, hey, have you ever thought to maybe have your dad not tweet that?

00:21:23.000 Or like, I'm like... 1.00

00:21:23.000 No, I've never thought that because I'm a freaking imbecile. 1.00

00:21:26.000 I've never thought, wow, you are an incredible political mind. 0.99

00:21:31.000 That's less of a problem lately, but this was the first few years of political commentary.

00:21:37.000 Tomorrow we'll be like, why don't you just do this?

00:21:40.000 So yeah, I don't know.

00:21:43.000 Love it and hate it at the same time.

00:21:44.000 So it'll be fun.

00:21:46.000 And again, now that I'll be 47, approaching that number of 50, it's sort of like, It's harder every year.

00:21:56.000 I enjoy celebrating that much less every time.

00:21:59.000 Yep, yep.

00:22:00.000 No, I get it.

00:22:01.000 I think we can all relate to that.

00:22:02.000 And I just turned 60. So that was kind of a seminal, you know, year.

00:22:06.000 And this is the first birthday that really got to me.

00:22:09.000 So you got that to look forward to, but it's still 13 years away.

00:22:13.000 Yeah, I got 50 first.

00:22:15.000 I figured that would be a, that's sort of a rough one when you think, because I don't feel old at all.

00:22:19.000 Like, you know, I hang out with mostly younger people.

00:22:21.000 Like, I don't feel like I'm almost 50, but I'm legit almost 50, which is ridiculous.

00:22:26.000 It's...

00:22:28.000 Anyway, I guess 50 is the new 30 or something like that.

00:22:31.000 Whatever I have to tell myself to sleep better at night, I guess.

00:22:34.000 Yeah, whatever you can do, man.

00:22:36.000 You can always hope.

00:22:37.000 You can always hope the 50 is the new 30. Exactly.

00:22:39.000 Yeah, so far I've been hoping that sort of medical technology, you know, advances faster than my early onset arthritis from a misspent youth.

00:22:47.000 And that has not actually worked out in my favor yet.

00:22:49.000 So you never know.

00:22:51.000 There's always a chance.

00:22:53.000 Absolutely.

00:22:54.000 I'm 60 and I feel great.

00:22:56.000 Part of it is just who you have in your life, what's going on in your life.

00:22:59.000 You love what you do.

00:23:01.000 That's what keeps you young.

00:23:02.000 That's been my experience with everybody.

00:23:04.000 I know guys that are in their 90s that are still active and interested in things.

00:23:09.000 That, I think, is the key.

00:23:10.000 I've met 35-year-olds that seem really, really, really old because they don't love what they do.

00:23:15.000 They don't believe in anything.

00:23:17.000 That's really what keeps you young.

00:23:18.000 I think that's right.

00:23:19.000 That'll be an interesting thing now.

00:23:21.000 Maybe that's a place to start, but even for me, cycling off a campaign, as brutal as it is, as crazy as it is, 24-hour days, all-nighters, there's something about the action.

00:23:34.000 You're there talking to people.

00:23:35.000 When you cycle off of that, there's actually a dopamine dearth that goes away.

00:23:43.000 After January 20th, I'll probably be like, you know, I hated everything for the last six months.

00:23:48.000 But now I kind of miss it because you sort of like the action and the action keeps you young.

00:23:48.000 It's been brutal.

00:23:53.000 Yeah, no, it does.

00:23:54.000 It's also it's combat, you know, in a way.

00:23:54.000 And it's action.

00:23:57.000 I mean, it's combat, not obviously real combat.

00:24:00.000 We don't even create the stolen valor memes right now.

00:24:03.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:04.000 Exactly.

00:24:05.000 So not suggesting that.

00:24:06.000 But it's not just that you're engaged in a venture.

00:24:09.000 You're engaged in a venture where you are facing opposition, headwinds and In the case of 2024, it's not just an opposing campaign.

00:24:16.000 It's the media establishment.

00:24:18.000 It's corporate America.

00:24:19.000 It's all of those entities.

00:24:21.000 And so, yeah, I can imagine the adrenaline push and the dopamine push is absolutely real, and it's invigorating.

00:24:29.000 And then when it's gone, yeah, you're kind of looking around saying, man, it's really quiet here.

00:24:34.000 How did it get quiet so fast?

00:24:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:36.000 Well, I mean, maybe that's where we start.

00:24:38.000 I mean, you know, the dopamine rush.

00:24:39.000 You'd think being president of the United States would give you the dopamine rush.

00:24:42.000 What happens to Joe Biden after January 20th?

00:24:45.000 Because if he's riding the dopamine high, what's it like for him when he's not?

00:24:51.000 And when you kind of compare, you know, my father's a couple of years younger, but, you know, my dad's 78 and he's pulling all-nighters and going, you know, Joe Biden can't make it to, you know, make it to lunch without, you know, taking a nap.

00:25:03.000 You know, maybe that is like a perfect example of like age is just a number depending on the person.

00:25:09.000 Yeah, no, I think it is.

00:25:10.000 And again, I know people that are in their 90s, their mid 90s, they're alert, they're mentally fit, certainly more capable of making decisions and showing more stamina than Joe Biden does.

00:25:21.000 You know, it's interesting to me.

00:25:22.000 I mean, I have this theory.

00:25:23.000 I don't have...

00:25:25.000 for, but it would fit the pattern.

00:25:27.000 And that is that during that period when Joe Biden had that, you know, that first debate performance, which was absolutely disastrous.

00:25:35.000 And the time from from that debate to when he actually pulled out and dropped out and Kamala Harris took his place, you know, there was a seven to eight week period there.

00:25:45.000 And what happened?

00:25:46.000 Hunter Biden effectively moved into the White House.

00:25:49.000 And my theory is that you had all this pressure from big Democratic donors, from people like Nancy Pelosi and other elected officials.

00:25:56.000 They wanted him out.

00:25:58.000 And my theory is, in typical Joe Biden fashion and Biden family fashion, they negotiated a golden parachute or an exit strategy, an exit payment strategy.

00:26:10.000 What form that takes, I don't know, but I'm sure there are a lot of people in Hollywood, a lot of people tied up in the Democratic Party establishment that were prepared to throw millions of dollars at the Biden family under consulting arrangements or whatever to get him to go away.

00:26:24.000 So I think that probably happened.

00:26:25.000 So I think it's not going to require a lot of work on his part.

00:26:29.000 They got money coming in.

00:26:30.000 But this is a guy whose entire adult life has been identified and wrapped up in political office.

00:26:38.000 He's never done anything else.

00:26:40.000 And I don't know what you do after that.

00:26:42.000 Even if you've got limited cognitive ability, you still know you no longer have political power.

00:26:46.000 So it's going to be a huge, huge adjustment for him.

00:26:49.000 Yeah, I mean, and talk about that a little bit, right?

00:26:52.000 I mean, we all knew he was sort of, you know, let's call it brain dead for the last couple of years.

00:26:57.000 He was still able to, you know, stay there.

00:27:00.000 It took that debate for everyone to realize.

00:27:02.000 And, you know, you're now I'm sort of looking forward to the postmortems.

00:27:06.000 I'm sure you'll be all over this.

00:27:07.000 But, you know, when everyone starts writing the tell all books about just how bad it was, you know, I think the Democrats would usually be Pretty good about hiding that kind of stuff.

00:27:17.000 Certainly much better than our side ever would.

00:27:19.000 But I imagine now that, you know, that dynasty is clearly over.

00:27:23.000 You know, there's a lot of clickbait that's going to happen with all of this.

00:27:26.000 How bad do you think that's going to be?

00:27:28.000 And do you think it's actually worse than we saw, even if what we saw was atrocious?

00:27:33.000 Yeah, I think it's going to be worse than we thought.

00:27:35.000 And here's the thing.

00:27:36.000 I think it's going to get pretty ugly because I'm not sure that the center of gravity in the Democratic Party realized what happened in this last election.

00:27:46.000 They're still sort of making excuses that it's something else.

00:27:50.000 You know, it was messaging rather than the substance of what they did, or it was, you know, certain tactical decisions they made.

00:27:57.000 The fact of the matter is they lost terribly and they lost bad on substance, right?

00:28:02.000 Real substance.

00:28:04.000 But I think they haven't gotten that message yet.

00:28:07.000 So they're going to continue to look for excuses.

00:28:09.000 And one of those excuses is going to be, Joe Biden let us down.

00:28:13.000 He clung to power for too long.

00:28:15.000 He shouldn't have done that disastrous debate.

00:28:17.000 He should have left earlier in the year.

00:28:19.000 That would have given Kamala more time. 0.93

00:28:21.000 Or maybe we could have had a...

00:28:23.000 To do what, though?

00:28:24.000 More time to do what?

00:28:26.000 She got on The View and basically committed political suicide on The View. 0.85

00:28:31.000 You know, she was asked, you know, three or four basic questions, flubbed them horribly the first time, was given chance after, I don't want to say a lot of chances, only because she barely did any media or any press that wasn't sort of teleprompted and scripted stuff.

00:28:45.000 But if she can't answer those things after having a disaster and still can't answer them the next time, let alone five or six times later, you know, was there ever going to be a change?

00:28:55.000 No, a bingo, and I think what you're saying absolutely proves the point that I'm trying to make, which is these are all excuses they're trying to manufacture. 1.00

00:29:04.000 They don't want to look at the fundamental issue, which is the center of gravity of the Democratic Party is too progressive, they have terrible policies, and they were rejected by the American people because you had a Republican candidate who came forward and had a more appealing message, and it was a substantive message.

00:29:23.000 They don't want to confront that, because to confront that for some of them is the equivalent of kind of having a religious view and realizing that that religious view does not conform at all to reality.

00:29:38.000 Leftism is their religion, and so you're You're right.

00:29:41.000 They don't believe in a deity or a god.

00:29:44.000 That is their religion.

00:29:45.000 And so it's interesting.

00:29:47.000 Do you think there's anything to this whole notion, Joe Biden out there apparently complaining to his aides that he would have done better than Kamala Harris?

00:29:55.000 I mean, listen.

00:29:57.000 You know, there could be something to it.

00:30:00.000 I mean, there's sort of this component of, like, Kamala Harris, it's like she made Hillary Clinton seem likable once you got to know her a little bit. 0.94

00:30:07.000 And I'm not saying anyone liked the policies.

00:30:09.000 And it was a lack of substance.

00:30:11.000 And, you know, I don't actually believe that Joe Biden, you know, thinks that, you know, gender affirming care for three year olds is, you know, the sociopolitical issue of our day or whatever it is that the Democrat Party said.

00:30:26.000 But do you think that Joe Biden could have actually done better than her?

00:30:28.000 It's possible.

00:30:31.000 Yeah, I mean, it's a crazy thing to say, but it's possible.

00:30:34.000 It's hard to hate. 1.00

00:30:35.000 It's sort of like hating a dumb dog. 1.00

00:30:37.000 It's like, okay, you put up with it. 1.00

00:30:39.000 You don't vehemently dislike it.

00:30:42.000 You don't have a visceral reaction to it, like I think a lot of people had towards Kamala Harris.

00:30:46.000 So maybe there's some truth to that, as shocking as that, maybe given his overall level of competence.

00:30:52.000 Yeah, I mean, in a weird way, Kamala Harris takes herself more seriously than Joe Biden does.

00:31:00.000 I'm not saying that Joe Biden doesn't take himself seriously, but Kamala Harris, there's this, like, earnestness that if you reject me, you are rejecting all that is good and virtuous in America, and, you know, you may be a misogynist or racist or whatever else to go along with it.

00:31:14.000 With Joe Biden, there is kind of, because he's been in retail politics so long, there is slightly a sense.

00:31:21.000 So in that respect, maybe he was more appealing.

00:31:23.000 Also, I think it was kind of a debate.

00:31:25.000 People were looking at Kamala Harris and they're saying, this is not a steady hand.

00:31:29.000 She's not confident.

00:31:31.000 She's not really competent.

00:31:33.000 She hasn't demonstrated anything.

00:31:35.000 And you contrast that with Joe Biden where, okay, you don't agree with him, he'd been in the arena for a long time, and he has diminished capabilities, but he still might have been.

00:31:45.000 More trust in hand.

00:31:47.000 The fact that we're even having this conversation of like, which ones, like, it's like, yeah, the leader of the free world can have dementia, and it's still better possibly than the Democrats' frontrunner, as well as, you know, according to the polls, their frontrunner for 2028, which I hope actually continues to be Kamala Harris.

00:32:07.000 Yeah, no, I think you're right.

00:32:08.000 I do think it's going to be interesting in 2020. I do think the Democrats are going to try to, at least some of them, are going to try to bring back the sort of Clinton brand, the so-called triangulation or the more supposedly centrist version.

00:32:23.000 So I think there's going to be a faction that's going to get behind, like Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania.

00:32:28.000 But you still have the Gavin Newsom, the California left wing of the party, which I think is ascended.

00:32:35.000 So they may make that effort, but it's getting really hard for them to go with a more centrist candidate just because of where the base of primary voters are for Democrats today.

00:32:44.000 Well, and where the money is, right?

00:32:46.000 The money in the Democratic Party is being funded by the most radical people of that party.

00:32:51.000 There's a reason we won so much of that blue-collar vote.

00:32:53.000 I mean, the radicals still really believe that these, you know, the hills to die on for them are not things that resonate with the American public at all, and yet, you know, these are their priorities, and, you know, you don't get that money if you don't buy into that, you know, sort of ethos.

00:33:08.000 Yeah, yeah, no, that's right.

00:33:09.000 I mean, it's big tech, it's Hollywood, and a certain, you know, function of people that are trust fund kids, right?

00:33:17.000 Their parents made a bunch of money, and they're now, you know, liberal Democrats.

00:33:21.000 That is the center of gravity of the finance for the Democratic Party, and that is not going to change.

00:33:26.000 They're just going to have to decide whether they are prepared to reduce their religious affection for progressive causes in the hope they have a better chance of winning.

00:33:37.000 That's the balancing choice they have to make.

00:33:40.000 What's interesting about the Republican Party is you don't really have that debate.

00:33:43.000 You don't really have that debate because the center of gravity of the party is now the sort of Trump MAGA movement.

00:33:51.000 That is the center of gravity of the party, and there's no reason to try to triangulate or do something wrong.

00:33:58.000 And that's what I think is so extraordinary about this time, because coalitions for the Republican Party are far less important than the Democrats trying to form coalitions with elements on Wall Street or people in the Midwest or wherever, because they can't be true to what they actually believe, because it's too radical.

00:34:16.000 Yeah, I mean, you know, let's talk a little bit further about Joe Biden.

00:34:19.000 You've obviously, I mean, you've written entire books about sort of the corruption in not just the Democrat Party, but in the Biden crime family.

00:34:27.000 And now, after years of guys like you and, you know, to a lesser extent, me, but, you know, I wrote a book triggered about, you know, just these kinds of things.

00:34:35.000 Biden is literally seen in newly uncovered photos meeting with Hunter Biden's Chinese business associates while he was vice president.

00:34:46.000 I mean, how is it possible that the second most powerful man in the world Can cover that up for that long?

00:34:53.000 Again, guys like you, guys like me, we know about it.

00:34:56.000 We talk about it.

00:34:57.000 It never really broke through the ether to the mainstream, and certainly not with the media.

00:35:03.000 But how is it possible that we're just getting this now?

00:35:06.000 Like every good conspiracy theory, it's proven correct usually a couple months later, in this case a couple years later.

00:35:12.000 And what does it ultimately mean that, you know, clearly many people knew about this.

00:35:18.000 It was well documented.

00:35:20.000 And yet the American public never actually got to see that.

00:35:24.000 Yeah, I mean, this is a this is a small example of the deep state at work.

00:35:28.000 People use the term deep state all the time and people ask me, well, what does it mean?

00:35:32.000 This is an example of it.

00:35:33.000 The question here was a request for photos was made through the Freedom of Information Act to the National Archives.

00:35:41.000 Okay, we're not talking about the Civil Rights Division of the Department of Justice.

00:35:45.000 We're talking about the National Archives, which should not be a politically engaged government agency.

00:35:52.000 But it is.

00:35:53.000 That's the same agency that went after Trump for taking personal letters home.

00:35:58.000 Exactly.

00:35:59.000 My point is you wouldn't think it was, but it is.

00:36:02.000 And it shows the penetration of the deep state and how even something like an archives agency has been weaponized.

00:36:10.000 And what they did in the case of those letters is they weaponized the archives office.

00:36:15.000 In this case, they dragged their feet for years about these photos when the photos were not hard to find.

00:36:21.000 They were part of an official vice presidential visit on Air Force Two to China.

00:36:26.000 You know, I had reported in 2018, you talked about it in your book, that Hunter flew with his dad on Air Force Two to China, that Hunter met with his Chinese partners, and Joe Biden insisted for years that, yeah, he might have been there, his son might have been there, he might have met with his business partners, but he, Joe Biden himself, never actually met with Hunter's business partners, which just, you know, strained credulity beyond the breaking point.

00:36:53.000 But the media clung to it.

00:36:55.000 And now, of course, the photos show what I'd reported, what you'd reported, what others have covered, is that, in fact, they did meet.

00:37:02.000 And this was the main reason that Hunter Biden was actually able to get business deals, to get Chinese, you know, businessmen to send him millions of dollars when he brought nothing to the table.

00:37:13.000 It was because his dad was vice president and was slated to eventually become president of the United States in the eyes of Democrats.

00:37:20.000 So to me, the photos are important.

00:37:24.000 It confirms something we already knew.

00:37:25.000 So that's not a huge thing.

00:37:27.000 It feels good.

00:37:28.000 But the larger issue, it's a further example of what has happened to our federal bureaucracy, even in these sleepy corners of the archives departments.

00:37:38.000 It's being used to prevent the American people from getting access to legitimate information.

00:37:43.000 You know, we know if this had been a photo involving Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush or somebody else, they would have dropped these photos right away.

00:37:52.000 So that that's the larger vision.

00:37:54.000 And it goes to, I think, what we should look forward to in 2025, which is going to be real trench warfare of cleaning out government agencies and getting government to function the way that it's supposed to function, which is serving the American people and being transparent, not these hidden games which is serving the American people and being transparent, not these hidden games to protect I mean, you've uncovered so much of this story already.

00:38:18.000 You've been talking about it.

00:38:19.000 You've wrote literally entire books on the subject.

00:38:21.000 But Biden's now leaving office.

00:38:24.000 Hunter gets a blanket pardon going way back into Joe Biden's vice presidency, not even just, you know, the time around the last few years.

00:38:32.000 So what does it all mean for where this story goes or how it ends?

00:38:36.000 Is it just forgotten?

00:38:37.000 Do we get to the bottom of it so that at least the American public has a final understanding?

00:38:43.000 Now that he gets a pardon, does a Republican Congress call him up to talk about all of these things?

00:38:52.000 I mean, most of the stuff they let wash away anyway, right?

00:38:55.000 We all understand that the stuff that was actually serious, the Farrah violations, the millions of dollars from foreign entities, was sort of hidden under the guise of a gun charge.

00:39:04.000 And the gun charge is real.

00:39:05.000 I have a feeling I'd be prosecuted for the gun charge without question. 0.78

00:39:09.000 But they wouldn't let the statute of limitations expire on everything else.

00:39:14.000 Do we get this information now?

00:39:16.000 Just so that, again...

00:39:18.000 The American public gets the transparency it deserves to how broken our system actually is.

00:39:24.000 Yeah, I hope so.

00:39:25.000 I mean, I hope.

00:39:25.000 I think Jim Comer's done a great job at the House Oversight Committee.

00:39:28.000 He's got subpoena power.

00:39:30.000 He ought to have Hunter Biden come and testify.

00:39:32.000 He doesn't need to invoke the Fifth Amendment anymore because he can't be charged on any of these issues.

00:39:38.000 So, yeah, I think Congress needs to pursue it because, as I've talked about, we talked about this before, Don.

00:39:43.000 This is a story about Joe Biden, but it's a bigger story than that.

00:39:48.000 Because what you find with people that are creatures of Washington that stay there for decades, they look around and they see, okay, the Clintons got away with this stuff.

00:39:59.000 The Bidens got away with this stuff.

00:40:03.000 Maybe I should do it.

00:40:04.000 Maybe my family should do it.

00:40:06.000 So you've got to lay down the marker.

00:40:08.000 It's not about fighting some past war involving Joe Biden.

00:40:11.000 It's about laying down the predicate of this is how things should be done in Washington by our leaders.

00:40:16.000 Here's the other thing I would say about this pardon, Don.

00:40:18.000 I mentioned earlier about did the Biden family negotiate an exit deal for Joe Biden to get out of the White House?

00:40:26.000 Look at the wording on that pardon.

00:40:29.000 It has specific dates.

00:40:31.000 It runs from January of 2014, which, by the way, that is right before the Ukrainian deal start.

00:40:39.000 That's right as the Chinese deals are signed.

00:40:42.000 So it's clearly designed to cover those deals at the front end.

00:40:44.000 But it goes from January of 2014 to December 1st of this year.

00:40:51.000 Why do they feel the need to cover 2024?

00:40:55.000 I think it's because, again, I don't have evidence for this, but I think it is because there were deals cut for the family so that Joe Biden would step aside.

00:41:05.000 And this is a way of protecting them, because let's remember, Rod Goyevich went to jail on charges, on charges allegations that he got something in return for arranging for somebody to clearing the way for somebody to be a candidate for office to appoint them to the US Senate there is the possibility that there may have been deals made that brushed up against or were either even illegal for Joe Biden to step out of the office.

00:41:35.000 And I think the pardon is designed to cover those as well.

00:41:38.000 Because what else is Hunter Biden doing in 2020-14 that would warrant this kind of blanket pardon up until December of this year?

00:41:47.000 And what happens with that, right?

00:41:49.000 Fine.

00:41:49.000 The pardons are what the pardons are.

00:41:51.000 I understand the purpose.

00:41:53.000 Do they get to keep the ill-gotten gains if there are some?

00:41:57.000 I mean, it's one thing to say, hey, I can't be charged criminally, but I made hundreds of millions of dollars lying to the American people, committing crimes, leveraging the office of the vice presidency when he was there.

00:42:11.000 Do they just get to keep that, or can there be Some sort of, you know, a clawback provision on those ill-gotten gains if they're done illegally.

00:42:19.000 I get that he's not going to jail for it, but does he just get to keep the money?

00:42:23.000 Can you steal a couple billion dollars or hundreds of millions of dollars or whatever it may be?

00:42:27.000 And it's like, oh, all going, you can't actually touch it because you can't do this stuff criminally?

00:42:32.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm not a lawyer, so maybe there's a way to claw it back.

00:42:36.000 I don't know.

00:42:37.000 But from the standpoint of how they made the money and you're now saying with these blanket pardons, you cannot be criminally charged for the thirty one million dollars that we know of that they got from the Chinese. 0.89

00:42:49.000 I guarantee it's a lot more.

00:42:51.000 Yeah.

00:42:51.000 Oh, I'm sure it is.

00:42:53.000 That's just China. 0.94

00:42:54.000 Then you had Ukraine.

00:42:55.000 Then you had Russia.

00:42:56.000 I mean, clearly laundering money for Russian oligarchs.

00:43:00.000 You don't become the money manager of the wife of the mayor of Moscow.

00:43:04.000 I mean, that's true Russia, Russia, Russia collusion, right?

00:43:07.000 Let's just be clear.

00:43:07.000 You don't become the mayor of Moscow without Putin's direct knowledge and say so, right?

00:43:12.000 That's how this works.

00:43:13.000 Like, we can't be naive about that.

00:43:14.000 And if it was me, I have a feeling it would be treated and handled differently.

00:43:18.000 Oh, well, 100% it would.

00:43:20.000 And let's remember, by the way, that Yelena Baturina, who is the Russian, the wife of the mayor that you're talking about, we know of at least $3.5 million, probably more, but at least $3.5 million that we saw the wire transfer for.

00:43:33.000 She wired to Hunter Biden in 2014 when the Biden-Obama administration was deciding who Of Putin's oligarch buddies were going to be restricted from doing business in the United States.

00:43:47.000 And she's basically the only pro-Putin oligarch that was not on that list.

00:43:52.000 So there were clear quid pro quos.

00:43:55.000 I'm sure that's a coincidence, right, Peter?

00:43:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:43:58.000 I don't believe in those coincidences.

00:44:00.000 But to your point, yeah, I mean, that is the problem here and why we need to get to the bottom of this and why I think we need to look at legal recourse, we need to look at public accountability, because, again, there's a lot of shameless people in Washington, D.C., that if they can get away with this stuff, they're going to do it.

00:44:17.000 And I think one of the reasons the Bidens got into this business...

00:44:20.000 Of what I call globalized corruption, right?

00:44:22.000 You're not taking payments from some businessman back in your congressional district.

00:44:27.000 You're taking money from foreign governments.

00:44:29.000 The Bidens learned it from the Clintons.

00:44:31.000 The Clintons did it through their foundation, through the speaking fees. 0.89

00:44:34.000 They got away with it.

00:44:36.000 And the Bidens saw that and said, hey, we're going to start doing that.

00:44:38.000 We're going to go global, too.

00:44:40.000 And there are other people I can guarantee you right now in Washington, D.C., unfortunately, from both political parties.

00:44:46.000 You know, they're sitting in Congress.

00:44:47.000 They're sitting in the Senate saying, hmm.

00:44:50.000 This is a way to cash in and I'm not going to end up in jail.

00:44:54.000 Yeah, no, because I mean, the reality is, you know, the Biden-China story has layers that go just beyond, you know, simply the Bidens, right?

00:45:02.000 For example, we've covered on this show how, you know, Chinese entities are buying up massive amounts of American farmland and even, you know, single-family homes.

00:45:11.000 Again, I have a feeling we wouldn't be allowed to do that in China.

00:45:14.000 That wouldn't fly.

00:45:16.000 But, you know, talk about the impact of that.

00:45:18.000 And can it actually be stopped?

00:45:21.000 Yeah, I know.

00:45:22.000 It's a great question.

00:45:23.000 Yeah, I think it's a huge problem and I think it's an underreported problem.

00:45:27.000 So, you know, think about the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which is supposed to track foreign ownership of our farmland.

00:45:33.000 And what they will say is, well, you know, about one third of one percent of the farmland owned in the United States is owned by the Chinese.

00:45:41.000 And how do they know that?

00:45:42.000 Well, because if a Chinese businessman using a Chinese-based LLC buys a property, they're supposed to check in the box that they're buying this land.

00:45:53.000 The problem is, and we know this in the state of Maine and in other states, what the Chinese do is they set up LLCs in Delaware, they set up LLCs in Canada, and they buy large portions of land in the United States. 0.92

00:46:05.000 So it doesn't show up as Chinese-owned.

00:46:07.000 It shows up as Canadian-owned or American-owned.

00:46:10.000 So we don't even know the scale of the problem.

00:46:13.000 So this is, I think, another area of transparency.

00:46:17.000 You know, I think we've got an incoming, hopefully, Ag Secretary that will be interested on these issues.

00:46:23.000 We need to know what the problem is.

00:46:25.000 The problem is much larger than it appears right now because of the way they're hiding it.

00:46:29.000 So we need to get to the bottom of it, but we need transparency and we need to pass laws.

00:46:34.000 There's nothing unreasonable about saying you cannot be a foreign national from a hostile country. 0.61

00:46:41.000 I'm not talking about a Chinese-American immigrant who came here.

00:46:44.000 They don't like the CCP. I'm talking about a guy who still lives in mainland China, who's a member of the Chinese Communist Party, who's made all of his money with the help of the Chinese Communist Party, buying huge acreage in the United States.

00:46:57.000 No, that should not be allowed.

00:46:58.000 It's not good for America.

00:47:00.000 The only people that benefits are the Chinese. 1.00

00:47:03.000 Yeah, and it's not just buying up the Agland.

00:47:05.000 I mean, you could make a very strong case of that in and of itself is dangerous, right?

00:47:09.000 If you lose control of your food supply, like, you know, we've given them control of, you know, a big part of our, let's call it, antibiotics production stuff.

00:47:16.000 You have, you know, a big part of our industrial, you know, capabilities being there.

00:47:20.000 You know, all the batteries and rare earth minerals, that's all China.

00:47:24.000 You know, microchips, Also China, but, you know, certainly Taiwan, and that's clearly at risk.

00:47:29.000 But it also seems beyond that, so many of these things are strategically positioned near our military bases.

00:47:36.000 They're not just buying this because it happens to be, you know, good, productive ag land.

00:47:42.000 There's a more nefarious component to this as well.

00:47:45.000 Yeah, they want leverage.

00:47:46.000 I mean, they want leverage, and they're looking for ways of leverage.

00:47:49.000 And I mean, think of when COVID hit in 2020. um you know um president trump was talking about china's involvement with you know the pandemic and what happened and what they tried to do it didn't ultimately work what they tried to do was say well maybe we're going to stop sending you guys penicillin maybe we're going to start sending stop sending you guys antibiotics so they look for mechanisms by which they can form leverage On American leaders.

00:48:16.000 And that can be chips.

00:48:18.000 That can be farmland.

00:48:20.000 That can be food supply.

00:48:21.000 That can be our dependence on foreign drugs.

00:48:23.000 It's about leverage, leverage, leverage.

00:48:26.000 And we're naive if we don't recognize that.

00:48:28.000 So I've been very encouraged by what I've seen from some of the committees in Washington have been doing a good job.

00:48:34.000 I think certainly the incoming administration Mike Walls, I think, understands these issues.

00:48:41.000 Marco Rubio, the president certainly does, the incoming president.

00:48:44.000 So I think we're going to see action in this area.

00:48:47.000 The challenge is it's like an octopus.

00:48:50.000 There's so many different legs at work here.

00:48:54.000 You've got to work on whittling them down individually, and that's just going to take time.

00:48:58.000 So we've got to be patient.

00:49:00.000 But I think the mindset of the American people is now where this incoming administration is.

00:49:06.000 And I expect that we're going to see some really, really good action on China.

00:49:10.000 That's my hope.

00:49:11.000 Of course, they're going to bring their lobbyists in.

00:49:13.000 They're going to try to get Wall Street and corporate America to fight it. 0.98

00:49:16.000 But I just think the center of gravity of this has shifted to this side.

00:49:20.000 So on that ground, I'm cautiously optimistic.

00:49:23.000 Yeah, because it wasn't just even antibiotics.

00:49:24.000 Didn't they turn around a ship that was like a PPE ship, like masks and gloves?

00:49:30.000 You know, again, I was never a big believer in the mask.

00:49:33.000 I'm saying, you know, I don't know if I can still smell someone's food.

00:49:36.000 There's a chance this virus is probably also going through the ridiculous of the mask.

00:49:40.000 But if they'll get that petty and sort of threaten these kinds of things in the midst of a global pandemic where people are actually dying, and it doesn't seem like there's a lot that they won't do to be able to exert that sort of leverage.

00:49:54.000 Right.

00:49:54.000 And look at fentanyl.

00:49:56.000 I mean, fentanyl is exactly the same thing.

00:49:59.000 I mean, I talk about this in Blood Money and we talked about it on your program and others.

00:50:04.000 It is a form of weaponization on the part of China. 0.93

00:50:08.000 This is not kind of a random thing.

00:50:10.000 We know that China's involved in every level of the production and distribution of fentanyl in the United States. 0.79

00:50:16.000 The precursors, the pill presses, the chemists.

00:50:21.000 There's 2,000 Chinese chemists working with the drug cartels in Mexico putting this stuff together. 0.88

00:50:26.000 The Chinese organized crime networks that are linked to the CCP are the ones that taught the Mexican drug cartels how to produce fentanyl.

00:50:34.000 So it's a weapon.

00:50:35.000 It's not a quote-unquote drug problem in the way that heroin and cocaine is.

00:50:39.000 It's a weaponized problem.

00:50:41.000 And, you know, the good news is the incoming president-elect has talked about it as such and has said, we want this to stop and you, China, have the ability and the means to stop it because we know you're in control of it.

00:50:55.000 part of the problem with a lot of these issues is just understanding what's going on and then being prepared to call out the chinese for it and whether that is masks or ppe supplies or threats over penicillin or fentanyl it's acknowledging the fact that china is control in control this is a a totalitarian state so if there is widespread organized crime in china That is operating in China but gearing its activities towards the United States. 0.87

00:51:23.000 It's going on and the Chinese government is allowing it to go on.

00:51:27.000 They could shut it down, but they choose not to.

00:51:30.000 That's why it's being called out.

00:51:32.000 It's clearly, I mean, it's more than a psyop, right?

00:51:35.000 I mean, it's designed to demoralize, you know, a nation.

00:51:38.000 You create, you know, it's a sort of indiscriminate killer, goes after every demographic, every of this, destroys families, destroys cities, destroys livelihoods, and, you know, frankly, boosts China. 0.99

00:51:49.000 I mean, I'm sure they're not doing this out of the kindness of their hearts with the Mexican drug cartels.

00:51:55.000 I mean, it's full on warfare, I mean, at this point, isn't it?

00:51:58.000 Absolutely.

00:51:59.000 They define it as warfare.

00:52:01.000 And the thing is that it not only weakens the United States, think about it, fentanyl is now the leading cause of death.

00:52:08.000 For people under the age of 45 in the United States.

00:52:11.000 And our media, by the way, kind of does us a disservice when they report on this, because usually what they say, Don, is, you know, there were 100,000 fentanyl deaths last year, and the photos they show on TV are kind of the real, you know, the massive drug addicts that are kind of shaking or laying on the sidewalk.

00:52:28.000 That's not who's dying of fentanyl overdoses.

00:52:31.000 The vast majority of young kids at college taking, you know, Popping some sort of pill they think is going to have a good time for a couple hours for the first time ever, and they're dropping dead.

00:52:40.000 I don't think there's a single person watching that doesn't know someone directly who's either died from it or a close relative of someone you know and love.

00:52:53.000 So, yeah, it's done this indiscriminately and it could clearly be stopped.

00:52:57.000 In China, they don't have a drug problem because if you actually get caught doing anything like that, they just kill you.

00:53:01.000 I mean, it's that simple.

00:53:04.000 You know, I know my father's had that conversation.

00:53:06.000 He talks about it, you know, talking about with Xi.

00:53:07.000 He's like, do you have a drug problem in China?

00:53:09.000 No, no, no.

00:53:10.000 Why?

00:53:10.000 Because if we do a quick trial, what does that mean?

00:53:12.000 They have a trial later that day and they're put to death and never be heard from again.

00:53:16.000 And hence, no problem.

00:53:19.000 But it doesn't stop them from sending it here.

00:53:21.000 Yeah, no, that's right.

00:53:22.000 That's right.

00:53:23.000 And yeah, the bottom line is that the vast majority of people dying of fentanyl in the United States, like you said, it's this college kid.

00:53:30.000 They don't even know they're taking fentanyl.

00:53:32.000 They weren't planning to take fentanyl.

00:53:33.000 They thought they were taking an Adderall because they're trying to study for an exam or something.

00:53:38.000 So it's this massive weapon that kills young people, the sort of best and brightest in the United States, and they make money off of it.

00:53:46.000 Because they are in league with the Mexican drug cartels.

00:53:49.000 The Sinaloa cartel works with these Chinese organized gangs that provide them the precursors, that provide them the pill presses from China to make these pills, that provide them with the chemists to create these. 0.92

00:54:02.000 And by the way, they also help the Mexican drug cartels launder their profits through Chinese state-owned banks.

00:54:09.000 So they're involved in every step of the level here.

00:54:13.000 And the problem, of course, like with so many other things, is the Biden administration had no clue what was going on, or they did, and they looked the other way.

00:54:20.000 Because Joe Biden kept saying, oh, this is just a drug addiction problem.

00:54:24.000 It's not a drug addiction problem.

00:54:26.000 It's a poisoning problem.

00:54:28.000 And it's China that is poisoning Americans. 0.99

00:54:31.000 I think the new administration coming in, everybody that is around the president-elect, those decision makers and the president-elect himself understand what is going on.

00:54:41.000 And I'm cautiously optimistic.

00:54:43.000 I mean, Xi's not going to do this just because he's a good guy.

00:54:46.000 Xi's going to be forced to do this because the administration is going to exert the right leverage on them. 0.85

00:54:52.000 And that's what I think is going to happen.

00:54:54.000 And I think it's going to be pretty dramatic within the next six to eight months.

00:54:58.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm sure you saw the story the other day, you know, a Chinese national in jail for having 40,000, 47,000 images of child pornography, you know, just, you know, pardoned or commuted, whatever, you know, but same thing, essentially, like...

00:55:14.000 That has to be tied to this, right?

00:55:15.000 You don't just commute the sentence of a pedophile or pardon a pedophile who happens to be a Chinese national if China doesn't want this guy out there, doesn't have something on you otherwise. 0.69

00:55:28.000 I mean, do you think that all ties in?

00:55:30.000 Because when I look at some of these pardons, I'm like, why on earth would you do this?

00:55:35.000 Unless, of course, someone has more stuff on you, has more leverage, and is ready, willing, and able to exert it on you.

00:55:42.000 Yeah, no, exactly right.

00:55:44.000 And think about this.

00:55:46.000 I mean, part of this, some of these pardons were supposedly linked to a prisoner swap, right?

00:55:51.000 The Chinese, you know, grab a legitimate American businessman, say he's a spy, and then we charge people in the United States like this guy that was caught with all the child porn. 0.97

00:56:00.000 And the Chinese want this guy back. 0.99

00:56:04.000 He's obviously very valuable to them, and we're willing to trade them and swap them.

00:56:09.000 You can't disentangle that from the deep ties we know that the Biden family has with the Chinese and runs in these circles.

00:56:16.000 So it's another example of it.

00:56:18.000 It's another example of why, you know, people say to me sometimes, Don, why do you always harp on corruption?

00:56:24.000 There's so much corruption in Washington, D.C., we can't do anything about it.

00:56:27.000 First of all, it's not quite true.

00:56:29.000 We have to do something about it.

00:56:30.000 But number two, corruption has consequences.

00:56:34.000 It's not just that the Bidens got rich by selling to the Chinese. 0.91

00:56:38.000 They did things in exchange for that money, things for the Chinese that hurt us. 1.00

00:56:45.000 So corruption is not a victimless crime.

00:56:48.000 And this, I think, prisoner swap is another example of that. 0.56

00:56:52.000 The willingness to kind of go along and send these horrible people back to freedom and probably celebration in China by commuting their sentences or pardoning them or whatever is ridiculous and is just another blotch on this president and his administration.

00:57:10.000 Yeah, I mean, a big part of ultimately securing our border is also really securing the country from adversaries controlling us through their investments, right?

00:57:18.000 That's the same with the land, everything.

00:57:21.000 There's so many machinations of this, and your work really shows That perhaps more than ever.

00:57:28.000 It seems to me that there's so much more, though, that we could do to actually hold these bad actors accountable rather than just giving them complete access to American markets with no strings attached.

00:57:38.000 You know, I understand, you know, that bites both ways.

00:57:42.000 But how do you see that playing out?

00:57:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I think the number one thing we need to do is we need to have transparency, right?

00:57:50.000 So, like, if a Russian oligarch or a Chinese CCP official is buying commercial real estate in New York or Los Angeles or wherever, They need to be transparent.

00:58:01.000 They shouldn't be able to set up an LLC in Delaware under some lawyer's name.

00:58:06.000 We need to know who the ultimate ownership is.

00:58:08.000 So you've got to begin with transparency, and you've got to be vigorous about enforcing it.

00:58:13.000 You mentioned earlier about the Farrah violations with the Bidens.

00:58:16.000 That law exists.

00:58:17.000 It just doesn't get enforced, or it gets enforced against certain Republicans, but it does not get enforced against Republicans.

00:58:25.000 Democrats, right?

00:58:26.000 So they'll go after some Republican lobbyists, but they will not go after the Biden family.

00:58:32.000 You've got to enforce the laws, but it begins with transparency.

00:58:35.000 That's where we need to start.

00:58:37.000 Then the second thing is I think we have to look for an equivalence.

00:58:42.000 This is kind of related to the tariffs debate, right?

00:58:45.000 I mean, I think that the incoming president, your dad, probably says, hey, if we don't need tariffs, that would be great.

00:58:52.000 But we only don't need tariffs if you guys aren't putting tariffs on American goods and preventing our access from your market.

00:59:00.000 So I think it needs to be the same.

00:59:02.000 If we're going to allow Chinese CCP officials to invest in the United States, it needs to be transparent.

00:59:07.000 And by the way, American investors should be able to invest in an equal way in Chinese real estate, which they can't do right now, by the way.

00:59:17.000 I don't think there's ever been a foreign national who's ever invested in China, got in a lawsuit with someone who's Chinese and or the government and actually won, right?

00:59:25.000 I mean, it's just very different, right?

00:59:27.000 And then, you know, they talk, you know, free trade, they run around, like, you know, I've been to China a couple times.

00:59:32.000 Like, I've never seen, I don't think I've ever seen a Ford or a Chevy in China.

00:59:36.000 Like, there's no free trade.

00:59:37.000 It's all a pretend, right?

00:59:39.000 You just can't even get these things there and they're going to make sure of it.

00:59:42.000 So, now, you know, at At the World Economic Forum and at the UN, they'll scream to holy hell about American abuses, but the reality, there is no free trade.

00:59:55.000 That's a myth and a misnomer.

00:59:58.000 They just pretend that we have it with them.

01:00:01.000 Yeah, no, that's exactly right.

01:00:02.000 And that's, I think, another really healthy thing that's happening in the country.

01:00:07.000 The American people are aware of that.

01:00:09.000 They realize that sort of the official line on these issues, because the official line has been, China doesn't really have a lot of tariffs.

01:00:16.000 Well, they don't call them tariffs.

01:00:18.000 Yeah, you just can't get anything American there.

01:00:20.000 Congratulations.

01:00:21.000 It's not a tariff.

01:00:22.000 It's never going to happen.

01:00:24.000 You call it something else and it's not a tariff.

01:00:24.000 Right.

01:00:26.000 I mean, that's ridiculous. 0.96

01:00:27.000 And the American people are waking up to that. 0.73

01:00:29.000 And I think a lot of that has been, there have been consistent voices like the incoming president and others who have said, look, this is what's going on.

01:00:38.000 And it's forced there to be reluctantly the media to kind of say, okay, well, maybe there are things the Chinese have started doing.

01:00:44.000 So that has kind of shifted.

01:00:46.000 Look, there's going to be a huge blowback.

01:00:48.000 We know this.

01:00:49.000 When the new administration comes in and starts trying to address these issues...

01:00:53.000 The first thing they're going to do, they did the same thing in 2017, by the way, in the previous Trump administration, when they had come in and said, we're going to start looking at tariffs and restrictions on Chinese conduct in the United States because they restrict what we do in China.

01:01:07.000 China didn't go to the White House.

01:01:09.000 They went to Wall Street and they went to big tech and they went to Hollywood and said, guess what?

01:01:13.000 You want access to our market?

01:01:15.000 You want to keep making money in our country under our terms?

01:01:18.000 You need to go to Washington and you need to go lobby Congress in Washington.

01:01:23.000 They're going to do the same thing.

01:01:24.000 But I think this time, there's been a lot of lessons learned from the last administration.

01:01:29.000 Part of that is who you select around you, right?

01:01:32.000 And you've got people that are loyal, that share your mission.

01:01:35.000 I think there's going to be a huge pushback, but I'm very optimistic that things are going to go even better this time than they did the first time in terms of this hand-to-hand combat, diplomatic combat that we're engaged in with China. 0.89

01:01:49.000 Yeah, I mean, you're discussing missions.

01:01:51.000 What is your next mission, Peter?

01:01:53.000 Are you still focused on China?

01:01:55.000 What are the other sort of big stories that you want to uncover?

01:01:59.000 What questions are you sort of eager to answer next?

01:02:03.000 Yeah, so corruption is a huge part of it.

01:02:06.000 I think one of the problems we have, the size and growth in Washington, you know, things just getting out of control with spending is not just because liberals love big government.

01:02:17.000 It's because a lot of people find big government profitable.

01:02:20.000 So we're going to continue to explore that stuff.

01:02:23.000 I'm doing a lot of work on the immigration issue and looking at the corruption and the cronyism involved there.

01:02:30.000 I think when we think of immigration, people oftentimes think of it in terms of, well, it's just a function of, you know, poor people don't want to live in their country.

01:02:38.000 They want to come here.

01:02:40.000 That's part of it, but it's a lot more complicated than that.

01:02:43.000 So I'm going to be delving into that issue, and I'm hopeful that that's going to be useful in the next administration in sort of uncovering who some of these people are, what their motives are, and what they're actually doing in the United States and why they try to enable this mass illegal migration.

01:03:00.000 Well, Peter, thank you so much.

01:03:02.000 Thanks for everything that you do, guys.

01:03:03.000 Make sure to check out Peter's books.

01:03:05.000 Also check out the Drill Down podcast so you can keep up with these details.

01:03:09.000 I think as the mainstream media sort of continues to just embarrass themselves, I think it's creating a great opening for guys like yourself and even myself to actually make sure that people understand what's going on.

01:03:21.000 And I think with that transparency, we can actually effectuate real change, Peter.

01:03:25.000 So thanks for all you're doing there.

01:03:27.000 Hey, thanks so much for having me and Happy New Year to everybody.

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