Legendary NFL Quarterback Brett Favre joins us to talk about his career, his life after football, and why he's actually now speaking out about politics. He also talks about how he feels about the current state of the NFL and the current political climate, and what it means to be a leader in the modern era of social media and social media. Brett also gives us some great advice to young men who are just starting out in the NFL, and shares some of his favorite memories from his 20 years in the league and how he plans to live out the rest of his life in retirement, as well as some advice for those who are still trying to make a name for themselves as a professional football player in the 21st century. Don't miss it! Tweet me and let us know what you thought of this episode! Timestamps: 4:00 - What's your favorite moment from the past 20 years? 6:30 - What does it mean to you as a football player? 7:00 8:15 - What is your favorite NFL moment? 9:20 - How does it feel to be the GOAT? 10:40 - How much money does it take to become a Hall of Fame QB? 11:15 12:20 13:30 14:00- How does he feel about being a leader? 15:00 What does he think about the NFL? 16:00 Is he a good at football? 17:00 How he plans on playing in politics? 18: What s it like being a good person? 19:00 Can he be a better than a quarterback now? 21: What would he do in retirement? 22:00 Do you think he s going to do in 2020? 23:10 - What s his advice to younger guys? 24:00 Does he think he would like to play for the Packers? 25:00 Will he ever play again? 26:00 Would you like to retire at 50 or 55? 27:00 Should he play in the Super Bowl? 29:00 Are you looking for a younger guy? 30:00 More? 35:00 Who do you have a new job? 31:30 What s your favorite sport? 36:00 Thoughts on the future of the game? 32:00 Don Jr. 33:00 Did you like it?
00:00:00.000Guys, welcome to another big episode of Triggered.
00:00:26.000And this time we're shifting gears a little bit today.
00:00:28.000Not pure politics, not going that way, but we're talking with legendary NFL quarterback Brett Favre about his career, his life after football, and why he's actually now speaking out about politics.
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00:03:33.000And Brett, when we got on, we were just chatting a little while ago.
00:03:36.000You talked about literally you're now recovering from back surgery.
00:03:41.000That's got to be pretty rough, but I guess 20 years in the NFL, now you're paying the piper a little bit, huh?
00:03:46.000Yeah, I thought I was John Wayne while I was playing.
00:03:50.000Maybe I was to a certain extent, but now I'm reaping the benefits or lack thereof of 20 years, actually 19 straight without missing a game.
00:04:04.000I sort of say that braggingly, but my background disagrees.
00:04:10.000I think you have the most consecutive starts in NFL history, right?
00:04:29.000But, you know, when you're in the moment, you don't think about what it's going to be like at 50 or 55 or 60.
00:04:36.000Yeah, I mean, when you think about that, I mean, yeah, that's, you know, in a 16-game season, that's a lot of years in a row to start in a position where some really large men are trying to hurt you each and every play.
00:05:34.000The more I played, yeah, I would get hurt, broke a thumb on my throwing hand.
00:05:38.000You would think that would sideline me.
00:05:39.000I took a chance and played the next week, played great.
00:05:44.000So it's sort of like brought it on myself.
00:05:50.000You know, it's like, okay, if I can do it with a broken thumb, I can do it with a sprained ankle.
00:05:55.000I can do it with a torn knee ligament.
00:05:57.000I can do it with a separated shoulder.
00:06:01.000And again, you don't think about it in the moment.
00:06:05.000But I really felt like then and as I look back at my career that I was really, you know, and maybe I got a jaded view of myself, but I think I was a great teammate.
00:06:35.000I see that so much, you know, in my life today, you know, having people that you can actually count on.
00:06:41.000When we delve into the world of politics, you know, the loyalty, especially as someone who was a lifetime New Yorker, right?
00:06:50.000It was all of a sudden, now you're in politics, even though they knew my politics prior, you know, People, they flip, they change.
00:06:56.000All of a sudden, you know, decades of friendship no longer matter.
00:06:59.000So I think actually being that steadfast and loyal teammate probably actually means a lot more to most.
00:07:07.000And when you talk about, like, you know, being in the game like that, I mean, if the prior record was 118 games and you did 321 straight starts, I mean, you didn't just, like, beat the record by a little bit.
00:08:21.000Did it allow you to do that differently where you sort of just understand intrinsically what's going on?
00:08:29.000How did that change? You know what, Don?
00:08:33.000I started four years in college and was a quarterback for four years.
00:08:40.000And we had really good success, but this was in an era where you didn't pass very much.
00:08:46.000Now, going even further back in high school, I played for my dad.
00:08:50.000And the younger generation doesn't even know what the wishbone is, but the wishbone was a running offense.
00:08:57.000The quarterback ran, the quarterback blocked, he pitched, he ran options.
00:09:02.000What he didn't do was throw, maybe two, three times a game if we were lucky.
00:09:07.000So my point is, even though I started four years in college and two years in high school, I was behind in the passing The terminology, the ins and outs of reading defenses, reading fronts.
00:09:25.000I just really kind of relied on not knowing it at the time.
00:09:29.000I really relied on just natural ability.
00:09:31.000I could dodge and move and make the first and second guy miss and make a throw from anywhere.
00:13:01.000I mean, you see a lot of people watching football games.
00:13:03.000They see sort of these weird flags on the play.
00:13:06.000And I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but it almost feels like the refs are in there to keep that game close.
00:13:14.000I don't remember there ever being as many sort of controversial plays in big games that even a journeyman sort of A fan like myself can watch and be like, wait a minute, that's bullshit.
00:13:29.000I mean, you know, are the referees calling fouls to change the direction of the game to keep some of that excitement that you're talking about to jack those scores up or keep it close?
00:13:39.000I can't answer that with 100% certainty.
00:13:43.000I think what I do think is with instant replay, you would think you would get it right.
00:14:39.000How else are you supposed to actually play the game with some of those things?
00:14:45.000I understand. We'll talk about concussions because I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.
00:14:47.000I get some of it, but it is still a full contact game.
00:14:51.000And sometimes the flags that I see and the calls that I see being made on that are also like, wait a minute, we're not playing flag football.
00:14:58.000I mean, it is still the NFL and it's tackle football.
00:15:01.000Yeah, you know, I think that's one of the things that have changed really most dramatically is hitting the quarterbacks, trying to eliminate...
00:15:18.000Hits where either receiver is not paying attention, you know, he comes across the middle, and the ball's over his head, and he's kind of, you know, and I get that.
00:17:42.000You know, really impressive athlete, but, you know, not maybe as big or as fast as some of the guys there.
00:17:47.000And his thing to me, and it was, you know, he started multiple companies, smart guy, very cerebral, sort of thinking about it.
00:17:53.000But he basically always told me, it's like, when I was practicing in college, in high school, if he hit someone and he didn't see stars, He wasn't hitting hard enough in his mind, right?
00:18:04.000What he lacked for perhaps in, again, an elite athlete by any standard, but in his mind, he goes, well, what I lacked in this, I had to compensate.
00:18:13.000The way I compensated was I used the weapon that I had stuck on my head You know, to play.
00:18:19.000And, you know, he's since committed suicide.
00:18:22.000You know, everyone believes it was CTE. It was something he was very open about, talked about, was on a lot of those medications.
00:18:29.000I mean, his last text to me was eight minutes before he did it.
00:18:34.000And it was just, you know, guy talk, breaking balls.
00:19:36.000We did the autopsy on several former Pittsburgh Steelers players and determined that they had what was, I think, an unknown at the time, CTE. And I asked Dr.
00:19:48.000Amalu, I said, when is a good time for a teenager or an adult to play tackle football?
00:19:56.000And he said, never. And I said, well, I mean, that's not really fair.
00:20:01.000He goes, well, concussions are not fair.
00:20:03.000And he said, let me just give you a couple of examples.
00:20:06.000And I sort of laughed at him because of the, well, he said, the first example, a woodpecker.
00:20:16.000You know, I'm thinking, where's he going with this?
00:20:18.000And he said, a woodpecker, what's it do all day?
00:21:25.000Because the game is not going to go away.
00:21:26.000And I think the rule changes and the things that they're trying to do from a league perspective, saving guys by not practicing as much physically, Eliminating, you know, the bad hits. But there needs to be some type of drug or something that you can take that can alleviate the swelling because concussions are going to happen.
00:21:55.000Yeah. And it's just, it is what it is.
00:22:00.000As much as they've tried to curtail The number has gone up or stayed the same, not gone down.
00:22:10.000So even with all the rules changed, even with the sort of advancement in sort of helmet technology and neck bracing and all that stuff, it's still gone up, actually.
00:22:19.000Still going up or not going down below when all this started.
00:22:24.000It's not going below what they assumed.
00:22:27.000Part of the problem is you don't have to hit most concussions.
00:23:43.000You could have an 8, 10, 12 round match and the amounts of hits in the UFC is like, there may be one and it just sort of puts you out and then it's over, or a few, but it is that constant repetition that you think, again, bigger gloves, not getting kicked in the head, and yet it's the boxers because of that constant repetition that actually fare far worse in the long run than perhaps the MMA guys right now.
00:24:08.000Yeah, I think the term is second impact syndrome.
00:24:13.000So a concussion, I don't know if there's an exact definition of a concussion, but it's swelling of the brain is what I like to describe it as.
00:29:46.000But, you know, I went to Southern Miss to play both.
00:29:52.000And really thought that, again, had you asked me as I was going into the school for the first day, what do you think you're going to play first at?
00:30:02.000Baseball or football? I would have said baseball.
00:30:05.000To think that I was the last guy that they signed a scholarship to the university that year.
00:30:15.000As far as the quarterback room, a couple guys got hurt, a couple guys didn't play as well.
00:30:21.000I got a shot on the scout team against the first string defense, ran around like a chicken with his head cut off, made a couple plays, threw the ball like 75 yards, and people were like, Whoa.
00:30:33.000If we can harness this, maybe we got something.
00:30:40.000I mean, I remember I was having the conversation with a couple of friends.
00:30:43.000I was in Massachusetts with some buddies recently, and I remember being with them like...
00:30:48.000You know, almost 20 years ago now, I guess, when Drew Bledsoe got sacked and took him out of the game.
00:30:54.000And, you know, these guys, you know, I call them assholes affectionately, but, you know, they're crying about what's going on.
00:31:00.000And, like, you know, this unknown QB comes in, and it's Tom Brady, and they can't believe it, and they're pissed off.
00:31:05.000And yet, at the time, who would have known that that would have been the start of another dynasty, you know?
00:31:10.000So, yeah, you never know what's going to happen sometimes.
00:31:12.000You never know. I mean, I... In regards to that situation or similar situations, I think there's more guys who, for example, Kurt Warner, undrafted, played in the Arena League, now he's a Hall of Famer, had a wonderful career.
00:31:29.000Tom Brady was, I think, drafted in the last round, seventh round.
00:31:36.000Who knows if he'd have gotten a chance to play, had Bledsoe not gotten hurt that night.
00:31:41.000Yeah, you wonder how many guys are like rock stars that will never actually get to see that potential, that are never going to get to actually shine.
00:31:49.000It's sort of a, you know, I get it, because it's interesting, because, you know, ultimately, you know, the NFL, it may be like the ultimate meritocracy, right?
00:31:59.000Like, you ain't playing if you're not great, if you're not making those things happen, which is, Which is sort of interesting, given perhaps some of the political leanings that they have these days, because it's sort of the ultimate meritocracy, and yet that's not what they're pushing these days, sort of on the political side of things.
00:32:16.000Yeah, you know, I remember my first five or six years, I was kind of feeling my way through, kind of, you know, from afar, just kind of gazing, kind of like sitting in an airport, you know, you just kind of study people and form opinions and things like that.
00:32:34.000And It seemed like, to me, the guys that were drafted highest on the teams that I played on, and quite frankly, the other teams, failed more often than guys who were drafted last or were not drafted who actually succeeded.
00:32:55.000But the thing is, the guy that was drafted, say, the first round, he's going to get two years for sure just because he was drafted.
00:33:03.000Not because they're going to try to get their money's worth to prove that they made the right decision in drafting him.
00:33:11.000Even if the guy behind him In a preseason game or came in and, you know, mop up effort and did well.
00:33:20.000He's not going to get the chance right away.
00:33:22.000They're going to milk the first guy until they just, like, they can't do it any longer.
00:33:35.000I guess you see that a lot historically.
00:33:36.000I don't even know recently, but like, with a lot of the Heisman Trophy winners, right?
00:33:40.000That, you know, sort of, you know, some are great, but a lot has sort of underperformed what would have been, you know, going as essentially a number one player in the league.
00:33:51.000Yeah, I played with a couple of Heisman Trophy guys, one in particular, Ty Dedmer, who actually had a really good career.
00:33:59.000He was drafted by the Packers, great friend of mine, avid hunter, just a good dude.
00:34:06.000He was one of the guys that, of the Heisman Trophy guys that I had met in person.
00:34:12.000I've met a great deal. And I looked at him and I'm like, you do not fit the Heisman Trophy mold.
00:34:19.000He looked like a janitor. He had a pot belly.
00:38:20.000One of the things that would prove to be the toughest decision that particular year on whether to retire or not retire, my best season as a Green Bay Packer, and I played 16 years there, was that season, the last season as a Packer.
00:38:37.000So... If the team wanted me to go in a different direction, and I'm not saying they did, but just say if they did want me to go in a different direction so they could play their young quarterback Aaron Rodgers, which I totally get.
00:38:52.000Or if I was thinking, go out when When you're not playing as well.
00:41:37.000What are your thoughts on, I'm seeing sort of the NFL trying to do this stuff, the expansion into Europe, you're seeing the European games.
00:43:24.000But it seems to be, you know, having a team over there, though, would be a totally different scenario because the travel, the money you're going to spend to travel is unbelievably high.
00:43:39.000Well, and beyond that, I would think the toll it takes on the players, you know what I mean?
00:43:42.000I travel probably more than just about any human being in the planet.
00:43:45.000I do, you know, probably 300,000 miles a year.
00:43:48.000And, like, you go to Europe, you know, again, if you're looking to perform at an elite level, fine.
00:43:52.000I can go to a meeting a little bit tired.
00:43:54.000It's not going to change much. You get on the field with someone looking to take your head off, and you're a little bit slow because of jet lag or something like that.
00:44:48.000Again, having one or two games or, you know, Chicago play a game, Green Bay play a game, San Francisco play a game, and then switch around the next year.
00:45:01.000So, but not having a full-fledged schedule that teams have on.
00:45:06.000Yeah, have every team play one game there somehow like that.
00:45:09.000That way, you know, sort of everyone's at least at the same sort of, you know, disadvantage.
00:45:13.000Now, you could argue that later in the season when it matters more, maybe it's a little bit more debilitating.
00:45:18.000But, I mean, at least there's a little bit of, you know, straight lining.
00:45:21.000You're spreading it out over everyone.
00:45:23.000Yeah, you know, I think I wish I would have gotten a chance to play a regular season game over there.
00:45:33.000I can't say that I would want to do it every year.
00:45:36.000If they said, all right, Packers, you're going to go every year at least once.
00:45:41.000I don't know if I would like that or not, but at least once I would want to give it a try.
00:45:47.000Yeah, no, I think, yeah, it's got to be a cool novelty, even as a player, to be able to do that with a different fan base.
00:45:52.000But yeah, so I remember, you know, when Dallas got their hockey team, you know, as someone who grew up sort of playing hockey, and you see, like, people went there.
00:46:00.000It was the social thing. They went there for the fights.
00:46:02.000No one really understood the art of the game itself, but it didn't matter.
00:46:37.000Listen, I think it could be important for the game and for the future of the league.
00:46:41.000So speaking of some of that, that future of the league, what are your thoughts on now that college players being able to get paid off their likeness?
00:46:50.000Some of these young kids coming in there could be making millions.
00:48:43.000Yeah. I can see it creating a conflict where you actually get, A, while I love the idea of some of these kids being able to, I'm a capitalist, you know, obviously, and I think there's also sort of something messed about the schools controlling all of this money, making all of the money off of them, but I think Now you get this situation where you could really almost make the leagues totally uncompetitive because two or three schools are going to get everyone.
00:49:09.000I think you probably already have a little bit of that problem just because, you know, where it maybe puts them for the future.
00:49:15.000But you start adding the money component to that.
00:49:17.000And it's like I could see four or five schools basically getting every recruit and no one else getting anything.
00:49:23.000And you just have these sort of steamroller leagues that, you know, I think could just be bad for the game.
00:51:19.000As the head coach, do you not only deal with that, but start the kid because the boosters, whoever's paying the NIL, I want to see my guy play.
00:53:16.000Yeah, listen, your incentives are aligned, so I can see that, but I also see it sort of ripe for the other side when it's just so clear, so easy to, yeah, you can shave a point, you miss one pass.
00:54:14.000At least while I'm in, they can always pull me.
00:54:16.000Yeah. You know, I can walk the first four batters and guarantee that one run is going to come in.
00:54:23.000You know, especially when someone says, hey, I'll give you a million dollars if you keep the score under 30 points.
00:54:31.000When you're controlling or have a great deal of control in scoring and not scoring.
00:54:39.000So is the fact that gambling is seemingly everywhere now make it even more of a problem or a more pressing issue?
00:54:51.000I don't know. Yeah, I guess they could always find a way to do it if they wanted to, even prior to it being just so readily available.
00:54:57.000But yeah, it feels like potentially it's more ripe for the issues.
00:55:01.000But I do get it. I mean, I remember, you know, in college, you're sitting there like, you know, even if you're putting 50 bucks on a game, it made it That much more exciting because there's something more at stake, especially if you're watching some random game that you don't have a dog in the fight.
00:55:15.000You're not watching your college or your favorite pro team or whatever it is.
00:55:42.000You saw it happen to some of the people, whether Pete Rose, if you're talking baseball and stuff like that.
00:55:48.000By the way, I think Pete Rose should be in the Hall of Fame, especially after what they've legalized and how things are...
00:55:56.000Looked at and perceived in today's game.
00:55:59.000Oh, I think it's one of the craziest things in the world, but yeah, I think it's one of those where I guess the league's trying to teach him a lesson, but he was betting on himself too.
00:56:09.000It's like, I get there's a rule, but there's no incentive for fraud there.
00:56:15.000Yeah, the guy's like, hey, I'm going to get the hit, the winning hit.
00:56:31.000Yeah, two different deals. As you've been watching, I mean, you're, I guess, one of the few sort of, you know, you've always been sort of conservative.
00:56:39.000It's always been pretty clear where you stand out there.
00:56:42.000But, you know, the NFL itself as a league really likes to signal, you know, Everything's super liberal.
00:56:50.000Do you have conversations with some of the coaches or the players?
00:56:54.000Are they on that side or are they just like, oh crap, I can't believe we're doing it and it's the league?
00:56:59.000What do you see going on in the NFL right now?
00:57:23.000My thoughts, I really haven't had in-depth conversations with present players and, for that matter, present coaches.
00:57:31.000But my impression is, There's an enormous amount of fear of saying or doing anything that will disrupt the other side.
00:57:45.000You know, cave into something that you don't necessarily believe in because you're fearful that you're going to get tons of backlash.
00:57:56.000That's my perception of how things are playing out.
00:58:01.000Yeah, because I'm watching some of these things, and I'm like, I don't get it, because it doesn't feel like they're speaking to their fans, and so they're fearful of someone who has nothing to do with the business model, in my opinion, but maybe I'm wrong.
00:58:22.000On Tucker's firing, you'd mentioned, you know, that America was in much better shape under Trump.
00:58:27.000I don't, you know, I think that's pretty obvious.
00:58:29.000I don't think there's a metric out there that would disagree with that statement.
00:58:32.000But, you know, what's behind sort of being more vocal about it these days?
00:58:37.000Well, I think the opportunity to speak on it came up.
00:58:41.000And when given the opportunity, I haven't like Searched out opportunities to talk.
00:58:49.000I usually just mind my own business, but if I'm in a position where I'm asked about it, I'm not going to be like most and be scared to say what I feel.
00:59:36.000She's, you know, a sponsored athlete, young kid, but, like, she's out there.
00:59:40.000She works her... Like, if she was playing against...
00:59:42.000She's a golfer. And if she was playing against the guys, I'm saying, I can't even think about it.
00:59:46.000Like, I wake up some days, Brett, and I'm like, I have to be, like, the star of the Truman Show.
00:59:50.000Like, they must be videoing me just, like...
00:59:54.000Like, I feel like I'm an unknown actor in a movie that's punking me.
00:59:58.000Yeah. Because, you know, five years ago, you think about the things that are out there on a daily basis that people are trying to make really serious.
01:00:05.000Like, we would have been laughing that, like, it's a parody.
01:00:55.000I think it's great to have someone like you out there speaking about who, again, I think You know, you sort of know that you've been a conservative your whole life.
01:01:03.000You see it in the actions, but I think more of us need to speak out.
01:01:08.000That's what we do. We can have most of what we want in a deal in Washington, but we blow it because one guy doesn't like one aspect.
01:01:15.000The Democrats take every little win that they can get.
01:02:18.000I'm like, well, I get it, but if you don't speak up when given the opportunity, I think that the days of I wake up, I do what I'm supposed to do, I do the right thing, I go to work, I'm hard work, I pay my taxes, and I expect that everyone else does the same thing and we just live in harmony.
01:02:51.000I mean, you know, perhaps no one knows that better than my family, or certainly my father, and maybe me over the last few years.
01:03:00.000I mean, you know, the Russia, Russia, Russia stuff, only because, you know, there's now a little bit after the Durham report, and it's like, oh, you mean I wasn't committing treason?
01:03:29.000So I understand just how difficult it is not being able to talk about it when you know they're doing the hits and they're planting the stories and they're under gag order too, but they're making sure that someone else is doing the dirty work.
01:03:49.000It shouldn't be. But don't read or believe everything you read and see or hear.
01:03:56.000Yeah. Well, I think now, I mean, anyone who's been watching for like the last six or seven years understands that just because someone says something doesn't mean there's like, there's not even a pretense of like, that has to be at least a little bit accurate.
01:04:10.000Like these days, they're just making this stuff up out of thin air.
01:04:18.000Yeah, well, listen, they tried overthrowing my father as a president.
01:04:21.000That's pretty clear. And they're kind of going to get away with that, too.
01:04:24.000And, you know, other people, you know, you saw the guy that, you know, did the meme about Hillary Clinton, like that guy's going to go to jail for 10 years.
01:04:30.000But like the CIA director with a sitting vice president, a sitting president could frame the incoming duly elected president of the United States.
01:04:38.000And like, oh, well, it's fine. That's just politics.
01:04:47.000I remember when, you know, now that it's them doing it, all of a sudden the definitions change.
01:04:52.000Well, it's to fit their, you know, agenda.
01:04:57.000You know, that's what I think about growing up, and I'm like, did the news that, which was very little, that I watched and My family watched.
01:05:09.000Was it what somebody wanted us to hear or know?
01:06:49.000It really is. So, you know, as an avid outdoorsman, now that you have your Sundays and your weekends free, you know, what was that like being a hunter growing up, but basically knowing that, you know, 90% of hunting season, you're out there playing football the whole time.
01:07:22.000The thing that we probably shot at the most was alligators and gar and big turtles and things like that, which most people don't get to enjoy those.
01:07:35.000Eventually, they had an alligator season.
01:07:37.000But when I got to Green Bay, there was not really anything else to do but hunt.
01:08:20.000It's buggy, the deer are small, and you're in the swamp the whole time.
01:08:24.000It's fun. Then you get dropped off in Wisconsin, and you're sitting in a tree, and a 300-pound buck comes walking out, and you're like, that's a moose.
01:09:54.000But yeah, the Bo's season, and especially again, doing the high stress position that you're in, the brutality of the game of football, to be able to just sort of sit in a tree and decompress for a few hours.
01:10:07.000I mean, that's got to be the ultimate...
01:10:10.000Relaxation. I always encourage, like, you know, anyone I can get into the outdoors, people who haven't had an opportunity to experience that, try to be a mentor and create that next generation of hunters.
01:10:19.000I mean, you know, that's what, you know, I'm not saying I was an angel, but the outdoor stuff kept me out of so much other trouble, mischief I would have, you know, gotten into, you know, as a kid.
01:11:09.000It was going to jump over and dart me with quills.
01:11:12.000But I'm like, this is like being front row seat to Marlon Perkins, you know, One of his famous shows where he sends Jim out to wrestle an eagle off the cliff.
01:11:27.000Yeah. I mean, you're kind of like right there.
01:11:31.000I remember like Meeks, things that I didn't see in Mississippi.
01:11:35.000Yeah. Bartons, you know, not that I was hunting them.
01:11:43.000It wasn't really about killing something, even though I wanted to kill a trophy buck.
01:11:48.000Yeah. I spent a lot of, my wife's like, you must be the worst hunter ever.
01:11:53.000Yeah. It's hard to explain that to people, right?
01:11:57.000You sit there and like, I always say like, I've ruined a lot of amazing hunts by actually, you know, pulling the trigger or by, you know, by actually dropping the bowstring.
01:12:07.000Not that I missed or not that it wasn't there, but it was like I was having, you know, there was an owl in the tree across, and I'm just sitting there being like, oh my God, I'm just totally in this thing.
01:12:15.000No one knows what's going, you see what's really going on around you, and you appreciate the nature, the, you know, that sort of, you know, maybe my church, you know what I mean?
01:12:24.000It's just total meditation, and, you know, then when it's game time, obviously, you want to perform and you do it, but it's like, man, I was having such a good time.
01:13:04.000Yeah, 100%. I do the sheep stuff out in the Yukon and stuff like that where you take a backpack for 14 days, you may see one animal.
01:13:11.000Actually, the gentleman I was talking about earlier, my friend who killed himself, a big hunter, I remember we did a sheep hunt together where we were sharing a camp and everything like that.
01:13:22.000I tagged out on day two and I was just like, Okay, well, I stuck around for 10 days till he tagged out, just put my, you know, left my rifle, you know, in the tent, was walking without a heavy pack and just, you know, hanging out with him in, you know, in the wilds of the Yukon.
01:13:37.000And it was, this is a couple of weeks before his death.
01:13:41.000And like, I just remember being like, The best experience ever because there was no more pressure anymore.
01:13:46.000I'm just, I'm able to sit back and enjoy the, you know, all the aspects of that nature and the mountains and the hike and everything.
01:13:53.000And it was incredible. And, you know, I got to have that extra quality time with him when, you know, even the outfitter's like, what do you mean you're staying?
01:16:06.000You and I are going to have to share a deer camp or an elk camp or something like that in the not-too-distant future.
01:16:12.000We'll do something like this just around the campfire, talking, hunting, and fishing, because that's another thing.
01:16:17.000I think one of those great American tradition, something that if we could get every kid off their ass, away from a video game and into the woods, you know, learning the discipline, the patience, the perseverance that it takes to become, you know, sort of an accomplished outdoors man or woman, you know, I think we'd be doing them a major favor.
01:16:42.000I was going to tell you before we let each other go.
01:16:46.000You've got to take me on one of these trips.
01:16:48.000I read in your magazine, it may not have been the Yukon, but you went to Kazakhstan or somewhere.
01:16:58.000Yeah, I was in Mongolia with my son living in a yurt with the nomads.
01:17:04.000I started an outdoor publication because even hunting, like the NFL, even hunting sort of got a Apologetic.
01:17:12.000They went a little bit woke. They're afraid to offend everyone.
01:17:15.000I think we just have to have an honest conversation.
01:17:17.000And so I started the Field Ethos Journal with a couple of buddies just to tell those stories so people can experience, you know, that kind of stuff.
01:17:24.000Yeah, so people always ask me, what are the other things you're doing?
01:17:26.000I'm like, that's one of them. So go check out Field Ethos.
01:17:28.000But by the way, I'll text you later on.
01:17:30.000I'll send you all the magazines and stuff like that.
01:17:33.000You can see the other ones for yourself because, yeah, you're more than welcome to come on one of those with me.
01:17:39.000I'd love to. I'd love to. I went mountain lion hunting in 2016.
01:17:48.000Me and a buddy of mine who's a doctor here in town.
01:19:07.000I think that was awesome. And like I said, we'll have Brett back on.
01:19:10.000We'll do a campfire talk about hunting one day, and we'll also talk about the other things going on when I know what will happen will happen.
01:19:17.000Unfortunately, as you said, the process will play out.
01:19:19.000It'll take a little bit of time, and they like to drag that out.
01:19:22.000But there's no doubt in my mind that you're going to be all good there, man.
01:19:25.000So thanks so much for doing what you do.
01:19:26.000We really appreciate it. Thanks, Don, for having me.
01:19:29.000Really, it was a blast. Likewise, man.
01:19:36.000That was awesome. I think we'll have to do a lot more of that, just bring in a different perspective.
01:19:41.000And again, for people who are like that, who necessarily maybe were Republicans for life, but haven't been all that vocal, actually speaking about these things is really important.
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