Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Butler. Now this. A Second Assassination Attempt. Plus, Journalist Chris Rufo Joins TRIGGERED Ep.174

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00:01:55.000 you Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.

00:02:27.000 Honestly, it's getting old.

00:02:29.000 It's beyond sad that for a second time this year, a second time in basically two months, I have to discuss an assassination attempt at my father's life.

00:02:42.000 I have to have that conversation for a second time with my five young children in America in 2024.

00:02:48.000 But guys, that's where we're at.

00:02:52.000 I'm having to have those conversations far too often, far more often than anyone should ever have them in the civilized world or anywhere else about radical leftists trying to kill their grandfather.

00:03:03.000 No person should ever have to do this in America, anywhere else, and again, certainly not in the civilized world.

00:03:12.000 And yet I had to have those conversations again yesterday.

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00:05:56.000 And guys, let's now get into some of the news.

00:05:59.000 All of the left-wing madness that is just destroying our country.

00:06:04.000 One day, one day, guys, I'm hoping, maybe people will get sick of it.

00:06:10.000 Maybe they'll get fed up of the lies and the gaslighting, and then it's, well, you know, it's okay that it happened because it's to Trump.

00:06:17.000 I mean, he really deserves this.

00:06:20.000 Yesterday, at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach, A place where my kids play often, and they often play with their grandfather. 0.85

00:06:28.000 A Ukraine-obsessed left-wing lunatic named Ryan Routh set up a sniper's nest to try to kill my father.

00:06:38.000 He was reportedly camped in or around the golf course for as long as 12 hours. 0.94

00:06:44.000 Fortunately, the Secret Service spotted this lunatic, engaged him with gunfire, and stopped him.

00:06:51.000 But how was he able to get as close as he did, just 60 days or so after another left-wing lunatic tried to assassinate my father in Butler, Pennsylvania? 0.53

00:07:03.000 This is the second attempted assassination in just two months! 0.97

00:07:07.000 The assassin, again, is a deranged Democrat. 0.71

00:07:11.000 He has a Biden bumper sticker on his car.

00:07:14.000 He's donated 19 times to Democrats.

00:07:17.000 He even tweeted Kamala Harris's slogan that democracy is on the ballot.

00:07:22.000 Right.

00:07:23.000 Right.

00:07:24.000 Democracy is on the ballot by the people who've been trying to censor and jail their political opponents for the last few years, the Democratic Party.

00:07:31.000 I'm not buying it.

00:07:32.000 Neither should you.

00:07:34.000 But the media is going to make sure that you think otherwise.

00:07:38.000 Among other and bizarre disturbing ramblings, you know, democracy is not a ballot, mostly with his obsession with the Ukraine war.

00:07:47.000 He even apparently traveled to Kiev and was interviewed by the New York Times and spoke about wanting to bring Afghan fighters to Ukraine.

00:07:57.000 It's all as insane as it sounds.

00:07:58.000 But think about this. 0.87

00:08:00.000 This is a lunatic that the New York Times and others in the mainstream media gave a platform to.

00:08:08.000 He also said that in 2022, every civilian of every country needed to go to Ukraine to support the war.

00:08:16.000 Every civilian of every country, folks.

00:08:18.000 Like, I don't know, like 7 billion people around the world should go do this.

00:08:23.000 And how did this guy get an AK-47?

00:08:26.000 What was he actually up to in the Ukraine?

00:08:30.000 Who funded his Ukraine travels?

00:08:31.000 Apparently he wasn't legally allowed to purchase a firearm and apparently the serial numbers were scratched off Who did he communicate with?

00:08:39.000 There's still a lot of unanswered questions.

00:08:43.000 The media, of course, has had a disgusting reaction. 0.99

00:08:48.000 Not a shocking reaction, not if you've been watching these scumbags for the last few years. 0.98

00:08:52.000 And I take this one a little bit personally, you know, it's the second time they tried to kill my father in two months because of their rhetoric. 0.97

00:08:59.000 So, you know, forgive me if I come off a little aggressive right now, but there is no other response.

00:09:07.000 Gladly, many other Americans feel the same way.

00:09:09.000 Hopefully, they'll say enough is enough and stop listening to the mainstream media.

00:09:14.000 Some of them are even refusing to call it an assassination attempt.

00:09:19.000 I mean, even the FBI did that.

00:09:21.000 Now, I think the FBI is giving us some information.

00:09:24.000 Apparently, the shooter was also known to the FBI, like all shooters.

00:09:29.000 Didn't exactly stop him.

00:09:30.000 I have a feeling we only got that information because thankfully Governor DeSantis of Florida opened up a parallel investigation, is not releasing the suspect to the feds, where he'd probably disappear like, you know, Epstein himself, so to speak.

00:09:45.000 So I'm glad that's happening.

00:09:48.000 But NBC News called it a golf club incident.

00:09:51.000 You know, it's like, you know, it's like he topped his ball and it hit someone in the ankle.

00:09:55.000 It's a golf club incident. 0.98

00:09:59.000 Clowns. 0.95

00:10:04.000 While the Treasure Coast newspaper just north of Palm Beach County covered it on page seven with this headline. 0.98

00:10:16.000 Report some Trump safe after gunfight near Florida Golf Club.

00:10:23.000 Time Magazine, meanwhile, said that Ryan Routh had unclear political ideology, folks.

00:10:28.000 It's unclear.

00:10:30.000 Really?

00:10:31.000 What's so unclear about being a, what, 17-time Democrat donor with a Biden-Harris bumper sticker?

00:10:39.000 I don't know.

00:10:41.000 Doesn't seem so unclear. 0.99

00:10:43.000 It's only unclear if you're a biased propagandist or an imbecile, or perhaps both, like the people in the mainstream media. 0.98

00:10:53.000 And just look at some of these front pages. 0.99

00:10:55.000 The Chicago Sun-Times.

00:10:57.000 The big story of the day is Spotlight on Cycling Safety.

00:11:01.000 While USA Today's front page blared, Hope in America.

00:11:06.000 While the assassination attempt was covered in small font with this headline, Trump safe after shots fired in his vicinity.

00:11:16.000 Seriously, they ran this headline, Hope in America.

00:11:19.000 The day after an attempted assassination on a former president of the United States, the leading candidate, the nominee for the Republican Party, these outlets are truly the enemy of the people.

00:11:33.000 You know, even when my father said that years ago, and I was in the midst of the Russia, Russia, Russia lies and everything that they perpetrated, I was like, you know what? 0.82

00:11:42.000 That's kind of harsh.

00:11:44.000 It's not harsh enough, guys.

00:11:47.000 It's not harsh enough.

00:11:48.000 You look at their actions each and every day.

00:11:52.000 They aren't journalists.

00:11:53.000 They're propagandists at best.

00:11:57.000 Enemy of the people probably doesn't even begin to start with what they're pushing for our country.

00:12:04.000 Meanwhile, Democrats will continue to call my father and MAGA a domestic threat.

00:12:10.000 Here's Jasmine Crockett yesterday on MSDNC, shortly before the attempted assassination.

00:12:19.000 I talk about the fact that when we swore in finally in January,

00:12:49.000 that we swore to defend against those that are coming against us, whether they are domestic

00:12:55.000 or international.

00:12:56.000 And right now, I feel like MAGA in general, they are threats to us domestically.

00:13:01.000 And we see it time and time again.

00:13:05.000 Sorry about that little glitch.

00:13:06.000 Took us a little while to get that clip going.

00:13:07.000 That won't happen again.

00:13:08.000 But here's another example.

00:13:10.000 Far-left Democrat Congressman Dan Goldman has gone as far as to say that my dads need to be eliminated.

00:13:18.000 Eliminated.

00:13:19.000 Seems like a big one.

00:13:21.000 It's unquestionable at this point that that man cannot see public office again. 0.92

00:13:27.000 He is not only unfit, he is destructive to our democracy, and he has to be eliminated. 0.99

00:13:37.000 Guys, these people are sick. 0.98

00:13:39.000 House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries took aim at extreme MAGA Republicans on social media only 30 minutes, 30 minutes after the assassination attempt. 0.95

00:13:48.000 I mean, the gun barrels are still warm and he's telling fellow leftists to quote, we must stop them.

00:13:57.000 I wonder where it's coming from, folks.

00:13:59.000 We can't know.

00:14:00.000 It must be the MAGA rhetoric, not the endless quotes.

00:14:04.000 If you look at my ex-feed, I posted, you know, the Trump campaign put up very prominent Democrats and all of the things that they've said, and you wonder.

00:14:12.000 Read it.

00:14:12.000 Read them all.

00:14:14.000 The list is long and not distinguished, but it is disgusting.

00:14:18.000 And it gets even worse, guys.

00:14:20.000 The Cincinnati Inquirer today published a letter to the editor that blamed my father.

00:14:25.000 They blamed him!

00:14:28.000 For the assassination attempt.

00:14:30.000 The headline is, Trump brings these assassination attempts on himself.

00:14:37.000 I mean, I honestly, it's like you're reading like something from the Babylon Bee. 1.00

00:14:45.000 These people are insane. 1.00

00:14:47.000 They're deranged. 1.00

00:14:49.000 They're stupid. 1.00

00:14:49.000 But they still have power. 1.00

00:14:51.000 People still actually listen to them.

00:14:54.000 The media and the political left must immediately stop their dangerous rhetoric of blaming President Trump for the assassination attempt on his own life.

00:15:05.000 That's not what's happening at all.

00:15:08.000 Every notable Democrat out there is doing this on a daily basis.

00:15:12.000 They've done it for years. 1.00

00:15:14.000 That's why some of these morons and lowlifes get radicalized. 1.00

00:15:18.000 They think it's their permission slip to go and kill someone who's literally worse than Hitler. 1.00

00:15:24.000 Someone who's the greatest threat to democracy ever. 0.82

00:15:28.000 Someone who's gonna stay in power forever even though he left last time.

00:15:32.000 I mean, you know, minor details like that.

00:15:34.000 And the regime media and Democrats, especially Kamala Harris, must cease their inflammatory rhetoric that was directly mimicked by yesterday's would-be assassin.

00:15:45.000 And these are the same people lecturing us about civility.

00:15:49.000 Remember?

00:15:49.000 Civility.

00:15:50.000 Civility and joy.

00:15:51.000 That's the Harris campaign.

00:15:52.000 Everything's joy and civility.

00:15:53.000 You know, that won't buy you your groceries.

00:15:55.000 It's not even true.

00:15:56.000 They're encouraging this kind of violence.

00:15:57.000 Those kind of language, the things that they say on a daily basis, that's not civility.

00:16:02.000 But I guess as long as the media says they're being civil in saying that Donald Trump is Hitler, you know, it's fine.

00:16:10.000 Right?

00:16:11.000 When they say, when they go low, we go high?

00:16:14.000 Really?

00:16:15.000 Really?

00:16:15.000 Does anyone believe that?

00:16:18.000 When we have common sense conversation, when we talk about policies that are good for the American people and hard-working blue-collar Americans everywhere, they go low.

00:16:30.000 And they destroy our country, our republic, and our children's future.

00:16:36.000 There is no place for violence of any kind in politics.

00:16:39.000 And that extends to dangerous commentary from the media and their political left allies as well.

00:16:48.000 This past week has been a story about how the failing media is destroying this nation.

00:16:53.000 They never cared to get answers about what's actually happening in, say, Springfield, Ohio.

00:16:58.000 Didn't stop them from gaslighting us.

00:17:01.000 But our next guest, Chris Ruffo, he cares.

00:17:05.000 He actually found evidence of cats being eaten in Ohio.

00:17:09.000 Watch this video.

00:17:13.000 What is this they got on the grill?

00:17:18.000 Man, listen, man.

00:17:20.000 There go a cat right there. 1.00

00:17:21.000 His ass better get missing, man. 1.00

00:17:23.000 Look like his homie's on the grill, man. 1.00

00:17:27.000 Yo! 1.00

00:17:29.000 What is this they got on the grill?

00:17:34.000 Man, listen, man.

00:17:36.000 There go a cat right there. 1.00

00:17:37.000 His ass better get missing, man. 1.00

00:17:39.000 Look like his homie's on the grill, man. 1.00

00:17:41.000 What the fuck? 0.99

00:17:44.000 Hey guys, let's just say that ain't a chicken. 0.99

00:17:49.000 That ain't a chicken. 0.95

00:17:51.000 And I'm sure you've heard endlessly this past week from the media about the awful bomb threats in Springfield, Ohio.

00:17:58.000 Those threats are reprehensible.

00:18:01.000 But what is also wrong is that the media and the Democrats have tried to blame my father and JD Vance for them.

00:18:10.000 Not only did they have nothing to do with these threats, but these threats were from overseas.

00:18:16.000 The media seems to be helping foreign adversaries who are trying to interfere in our elections.

00:18:21.000 Listen directly to Ohio Governor Mike DeWine today explain that the threats are hoaxes and are coming from foreign sources.

00:18:32.000 33 separate bomb threats, each one of which has been responded to, and each one of whom has been found as a hoax.

00:18:49.000 So, 33 threats, 33 hoax.

00:18:52.000 I want to make that very, very clear.

00:18:56.000 None of these had any validity at all.

00:19:00.000 We know that people are very, very concerned.

00:19:05.000 And we have taken some actions and in a moment I'll let Andy Wilson go into more detail.

00:19:13.000 But we've moved resources into Springfield.

00:19:16.000 So I want to say to the parents in Springfield, These hoaxes, these threats, have all been hoaxes.

00:19:26.000 None of them have panned out.

00:19:28.000 We have people, unfortunately, overseas, who are taking these actions.

00:19:37.000 Some of them are coming from one particular country.

00:19:40.000 We think that this is, you know, one more opportunity to mess with the United States, and they're continuing to do that.

00:19:49.000 So we cannot let the bad guys win.

00:19:55.000 Our schools must remain open.

00:19:58.000 Remember, guys, CNN's Dana Bash just this weekend tried blaming my father and J.D.

00:20:05.000 Vance for what she described as terrorism.

00:20:07.000 And now we find out they're all hoaxes perpetrated from foreign countries.

00:20:14.000 So the media is basically a willing and complicit Participant?

00:20:20.000 With foreign countries trying to sow discord?

00:20:22.000 Because of course they don't want Donald Trump back in charge.

00:20:24.000 They don't want J.D.

00:20:25.000 Vance in charge. 1.00

00:20:26.000 They want America to be weak and stupid, as we have been under Biden and Harris. 1.00

00:20:32.000 Will Dana Bash get out there and publicly apologize for perpetrating and pushing this lie? 1.00

00:20:38.000 Will it even get a retraction?

00:20:40.000 You know, will the retraction be somewhere on like CNN.com page 4976?

00:20:45.000 Will she actually acknowledge that she was duped with all of this nonsense and then tried to scapegoat conservatives across the country?

00:20:55.000 Remember when this stuff wasn't actually happening?

00:20:57.000 Well, turns out it is.

00:21:00.000 So we'll get into all of this and much more with Chris Ruffo in just a few seconds.

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00:22:37.000 And guys, with that, joining me now, City Journal writer and author of America's Cultural Revolution, Chris Ruffo.

00:22:46.000 Chris, how's it going, man?

00:22:47.000 Good to have you here.

00:22:48.000 Doing very well.

00:22:49.000 How are you?

00:22:50.000 I'm doing well.

00:22:51.000 I mean, well, I mean...

00:22:52.000 You know, as well as can be expected.

00:22:54.000 I'm getting a little too accustomed to, you know, again, having to have conversations with my children about their grandfather getting shot at.

00:23:00.000 I'm, you know, as a son, I don't handle that all that well myself either, though, again, I guess I'm getting used to it.

00:23:05.000 It's becoming like an average Saturday for me now.

00:23:08.000 But before we, you know, get into talking about your Ohio investigation, you know, what's been your reaction to the media's disgusting coverage of the attempted assassination on Sunday?

00:23:21.000 I mean, it is totally outrageous.

00:23:24.000 You've seen it from all quarters of the establishment media.

00:23:27.000 They're trying to blame your father, President Trump, for the people who are attempting to assassinate him.

00:23:34.000 They're trying to lay responsibility on him.

00:23:36.000 Supposedly his rhetoric has caused people to fire shots at him.

00:23:42.000 Look, this only goes one way, because they're not also saying that the media's rhetoric against President Trump caused the shooting.

00:23:50.000 And so it is a circular logic that always goes in one direction.

00:23:56.000 It goes against the political opponents of this establishment media.

00:24:00.000 They will blame the victim as long as the victim is marked as the enemy.

00:24:04.000 And at this point, like you've said, It shouldn't surprise us, but it should still disgust us.

00:24:11.000 Because this is just so far beyond the pale, it's hard to imagine.

00:24:15.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm watching some of the, you know, the mental gymnastics, trying to blame the rhetoric on basically any conservative. 0.97

00:24:21.000 If you, you know, if you, you know, if you're upset that your cat's getting eaten, that makes you a racist and you're terrible and you deserve it. 0.96

00:24:27.000 You had it coming.

00:24:28.000 You know, they're not really eating cats, but if they are, it's totally fine. 0.98

00:24:33.000 You know, that's usually a week before, like, if you don't agree with them eating your pets, you're also a terrible human and a racist.

00:24:39.000 You know, what's driving the media's coverage to endlessly demonize literally half of the country.

00:24:45.000 I mean, the right, uh, even when they want to, you know, constantly lecture you about civility and discourse, uh, you know, it's such a tongue-in-cheek comment.

00:24:54.000 It's so hypocritical because they're doing the exact opposite.

00:24:57.000 I mean, you've experienced a lot of this yourself. 0.75

00:24:59.000 Tell us a little bit about that.

00:25:00.000 Yeah, look, I'm interested in the truth.

00:25:03.000 And how it works is that sometimes the truth is uncomfortable for people in power.

00:25:08.000 And so we have this media, left-wing media used to be, their identity was they speak truth to power.

00:25:17.000 But they've totally flipped because their ideas are now in power.

00:25:20.000 And so what they try to do is suppress the truth.

00:25:22.000 And what that means is suppress reality.

00:25:25.000 And so you have every technique in the book From simple denial, obfuscation, selective coverage, word games where they kind of take a fine-toothed comb and pick through words and try to manipulate specific words to invert their meanings.

00:25:44.000 Whatever technique it takes, the idea is that they have to suppress it because they know that, for example, on immigration, Donald Trump is strong.

00:25:52.000 Kamala Harris is weak.

00:25:54.000 That's what the public senses.

00:25:55.000 There's a debate to be had about immigration that's substantive.

00:25:59.000 But that debate, they know, will head in the other direction as far as public opinion.

00:26:04.000 And so they have to suppress it at all costs.

00:26:06.000 They call you names.

00:26:07.000 They deny reality.

00:26:10.000 They can't see the truth in front of them because the truth would be damaging

00:26:14.000 to their political fortunes.

00:26:15.000 And so this is a longstanding technique that's been developed.

00:26:19.000 But what I think we're seeing now as we enter the final stretch of this election season,

00:26:23.000 they're ratcheting it up to nine, 10, even like spinal tap.

00:26:27.000 They're trying to turn it up all the way to 11.

00:26:30.000 That's what we're seeing very clearly.

00:26:32.000 And conservatives just have to stay tough.

00:26:34.000 They have to stand strong.

00:26:35.000 You have to tell the truth.

00:26:36.000 And you have to get ready for the blowback because, you know, it's coming.

00:26:41.000 We know that for a fact.

00:26:43.000 And now is not a time to hide and to just, you know, bow down.

00:26:50.000 Yeah, a hundred percent.

00:26:51.000 I always tell people, you know, we sort of, we have to become unafraid.

00:26:54.000 I mean, we can be right.

00:26:55.000 It doesn't matter.

00:26:56.000 They'll still go after you.

00:26:57.000 I think, you know, at this point, uh, you know, perhaps no one other than, you know, RFK, uh, you know, understands more than my family about what exactly they'll do to you, but it doesn't mean we're actually wrong.

00:27:07.000 All, you know, whether it's the things that we got criticized that were, you know, conspiracy theories that all proved to be a hundred percent right.

00:27:12.000 You know, how, how do people do that?

00:27:14.000 How do we combat that narrative?

00:27:16.000 Cause I mean, when you're going into election, you know, you say, Hey, It's not our ideas versus their ideas.

00:27:21.000 It's our ideas censored, suppressed, smothered, while their ideas, whether right, wrong, or indifferent, are, you know, boosted, artificially put out there, treated as though it's the gospel.

00:27:31.000 How do you break through that noise?

00:27:33.000 What is it that regular people can do to help make sure that everyone actually understands what's really going on there, or at least see both sides and you can formulate your own opinion?

00:27:41.000 Yeah, we'll look.

00:27:42.000 I mean, I think we're at a disadvantage for some of the reasons you lay out, but I think out there actually is a huge opportunity right now.

00:27:49.000 Elon Musk has created this platform with X that allows a wide range of opinions.

00:27:56.000 You don't have to feel like you're going to be censored or banished.

00:28:00.000 You can actually reach a large audience through the platform.

00:28:04.000 There are independent journalists that I'm seeing really for the first time in the last stretch, the last coming months, that are really hitting the field.

00:28:12.000 They're going out into the world.

00:28:13.000 They're trying to gather the truth.

00:28:14.000 They're trying to assemble the evidence and the facts.

00:28:17.000 We have alternative news platforms that are gaining an audience and reaching people directly, bypassing the old legacy outlets.

00:28:26.000 And then I think we have to just have More integrity.

00:28:29.000 We have to have stronger reporting.

00:28:32.000 And we have to just have the faith that when we report the truth, people can see it for what it is.

00:28:38.000 And, you know, look, they said critical race theory wasn't in schools.

00:28:42.000 They said COVID didn't come from a lab.

00:28:44.000 They said that trans wasn't a social contagion.

00:28:47.000 They said Hunter Biden's laptop was fake.

00:28:50.000 And all of the intelligence experts agreed.

00:28:52.000 And I'm an agent of Russia. 0.57

00:28:53.000 We know now, through experience, that all of those things were false, they were deliberate lies.

00:28:58.000 And I think the American people are starting to get wise to this, and they're starting to see through it.

00:29:03.000 And I think we just have to have faith.

00:29:05.000 You have to fight hard, you have to fight with the facts, you have to fight honorably, and hope that people are smart enough, and I think they are, to see through the lies.

00:29:16.000 Listen, you've obviously broken some pretty big stories that definitely went against what the narrative would have been.

00:29:22.000 What was your own personal experience in terms of what's the worst thing you've seen them try to do to you?

00:29:27.000 Oh, I mean, everything.

00:29:29.000 You know, they call you names.

00:29:30.000 That's fine.

00:29:31.000 It's part of the game.

00:29:32.000 You get used to it.

00:29:33.000 They try to undermine your reputation.

00:29:36.000 I had a Washington Post reporter who was trying to argue in this piece that I had fabricated evidence, that I had made up these stories.

00:29:45.000 Of course, I had all of the receipts.

00:29:47.000 I showed them to her editors.

00:29:48.000 They had to retract.

00:29:50.000 you know, half the piece, they had to amend it, they had to issue a major correction,

00:29:54.000 basically saying that in fact they were making up all of these allegations from whole cloth.

00:30:00.000 But the idea is that they have the institutions and the instruments of power,

00:30:04.000 and that they're going to use them to try to hurt you, to hurt your reputation,

00:30:10.000 and damage your ability to reach people.

00:30:12.000 And that's why you have to be smarter, more agile, more intelligent, and more savvy than your opponents.

00:30:18.000 And you can get them into the ring, and then you can outfox them and outsmart them.

00:30:22.000 But, you know, even with this story that I broke just this week, we tracked down evidence that migrants from Africa were barbecuing cats in Dayton, Ohio, just down the road from Springfield.

00:30:37.000 We had an eyewitness account, firsthand testimony, background research, corroborating witness accounts that set the stage.

00:30:46.000 We found physical evidence.

00:30:47.000 We did forensic analysis.

00:30:48.000 I mean, we mobilized every possible resource, followed the most meticulous reporting possible.

00:30:54.000 And then what did CBS News do the next day?

00:30:57.000 They said, well, we talked to the mayor who said it's not true, that they don't have a police report about it, so it didn't happen.

00:31:02.000 It's like, well, wait a minute.

00:31:04.000 Plenty of things happen that are illegal, that nobody filed a police report.

00:31:09.000 Just because it doesn't say, there's not a piece of paper sitting in the police station saying something happened, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

00:31:15.000 That's like basic logic 101.

00:31:16.000 But it turns out we found the 911 call.

00:31:18.000 That was from August 26.

00:31:19.000 Like, before this became a meme, before it, like, it wasn't like a reactionary lie to something trying to be created.

00:31:26.000 It happened two weeks before it was out there.

00:31:29.000 That's right.

00:31:29.000 We've seen this over and over.

00:31:32.000 But it's very interesting because they'll say, well, we talked to the mayor, we talked to this person.

00:31:37.000 It's like, oh yeah, you talked to a democratic politician whose interest is to deny the story, has no evidence, conducted no investigation, doesn't offer an argument, in no way refutes the facts of the matter.

00:31:50.000 And then they run with it.

00:31:51.000 And they've been used to doing that playbook for so long.

00:31:56.000 They can do it shamelessly.

00:31:57.000 They can do it because it's a huge corporation.

00:32:00.000 And so look, that's where we are.

00:32:02.000 We can't despair.

00:32:03.000 We can't give up.

00:32:05.000 We can't just complain and say, hey look, the refs are being unfair. 1.00

00:32:11.000 At the end of the day, you still have to put up the points.

00:32:13.000 You still have to win.

00:32:14.000 You still have to make the argument.

00:32:16.000 And so you just slug it out.

00:32:17.000 You fight.

00:32:18.000 You present the evidence in the most persuasive way you can.

00:32:22.000 And then I think the truth, provided that it's given enough heft, it's given enough muscle, it's given enough push, will reach people and persuade them.

00:32:32.000 Because look, the country is in tough shape.

00:32:34.000 There's a lot of issues in the country right now.

00:32:38.000 And they would like to silence people, of course, their speech. 0.99

00:32:41.000 They would like to silence people by actually killing them.

00:32:45.000 We are hurtling towards a very precarious moment in our country's history, and we have to all stick together.

00:32:51.000 We have to all, you know, maintain ourselves, have the courage, and I think that the coming months will be decisive.

00:33:00.000 Yeah, I mean, it sort of reminds me of a small-scale version of what went on in the Ohio.

00:33:03.000 There's no real evidence.

00:33:04.000 It was like when Kamala Harris says, crime is down, according to FBI statistics.

00:33:09.000 It's like, no, no, they just stopped reporting crime to the FBI.

00:33:12.000 So it looks as though crime is down.

00:33:13.000 It doesn't mean it's actually stopping crime.

00:33:15.000 They're just not reporting it.

00:33:17.000 Or they're not going after people, or they're not enforcing laws that were always on the books.

00:33:22.000 So the number of reported crimes are down because they're just not doing anything about it.

00:33:26.000 Doesn't mean that the violence or theft or whatever it may be isn't happening on a daily basis.

00:33:31.000 So, you know, that's the problem.

00:33:33.000 I mean, people do have to dig much deeper than, oh, well, here are the FBI's crime stats put out by, you know, Joe Biden's DOJ, making it look like everything's rosy when in fact things have gotten a lot worse across the country.

00:33:45.000 Yeah, and look, you asked earlier, what can people do in their daily lives on these issues?

00:33:51.000 The first thing is to trust your own intuition.

00:33:54.000 Trust your own experience.

00:33:55.000 Trust your own observation of life around you.

00:33:58.000 You know, the left will provide a blizzard of often misleading statistical claims.

00:34:03.000 They'll cite, you know, very partisan experts as if they're neutral authorities.

00:34:08.000 And what they try to do is override your own intuition.

00:34:11.000 They're saying, no, no, we have the truth.

00:34:13.000 We're going to force it onto you.

00:34:14.000 You have to submit to it.

00:34:16.000 And if you don't submit to it, you're a bad person for X, Y, and Z reasons.

00:34:20.000 But I actually trust most Americans with their own intuition, their own judgments.

00:34:24.000 We have to just get back in touch with that intuition.

00:34:27.000 It's available to everyone.

00:34:30.000 Use the sense of the world that you see all around you.

00:34:33.000 Is it getting better or is it getting worse?

00:34:35.000 Are things better or worse for your family, your own private situation?

00:34:40.000 And I think that if people have a gut check and they ask how they're actually feeling, what are they actually seeing, what are the facts that come through their senses, I think they'll make the right decision.

00:34:53.000 And that's really all that we can do and what I hope people do moving forward.

00:34:58.000 So I'd like to, you know, Chris, talk a little bit about, you know, obviously your investigation surrounding the Haitian immigrants eating pets, but like, where do you start?

00:35:06.000 Where would other people in these communities start?

00:35:08.000 How do you do good field reporting?

00:35:11.000 Because, you know, again, I don't think we can rely You know, on, you know, local, you know, owned by NBC, you know, to actually do this work.

00:35:20.000 You know, how does, you know, an independent, you know, journalist do this?

00:35:23.000 How does a independent citizen start going up, you know, backing up the claims so that we can all sort of collectively fight?

00:35:30.000 When this stuff's going on in your backyard, I imagine people are incentivized to get involved, to try to counter that if there is no, you know, sort of Media apparatus willing to do the real work, how do they backfill that and make that happen in a way that's credible, that will withstand the inevitable scrutiny that they will get?

00:35:50.000 Even if, you know, you say the sky is blue, you know, the mainstream media is going to tell you it's not if it's against their narrative.

00:35:57.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:35:58.000 Well, you have to just go back to the very basics of reporting and investigative work.

00:36:03.000 You know, you have to get on the ground, you have to talk to people, you have to develop sources, you have to receive tips, you have to learn how to analyze evidence.

00:36:11.000 And what you really always want to do is have cross-check the evidence from a number of different points of confirmation.

00:36:17.000 Is this accurate?

00:36:18.000 Can other people vouch for it?

00:36:19.000 Do we have corroborating evidence?

00:36:21.000 Can we match the visuals?

00:36:23.000 Can we interview witnesses?

00:36:25.000 Can we make sure that this story has been consistent over time?

00:36:28.000 All of those techniques that you could, you know, read about in a Journalism 101 book that have been abandoned by many in the establishment who

00:36:36.000 just want to push a kind of propaganda line.

00:36:38.000 Those are actually kind of secret weapons for conservative journalists, conservative reporters

00:36:44.000 who can go in and make records requests, conduct interviews, verify and do the forensic analysis of video footage and

00:36:51.000 photographs.

00:36:53.000 But really, what I think it comes down to is building those relationships, figuring out who you can trust, and then, of course, always verifying the information before you go to print.

00:37:04.000 And this is something that I'm doing.

00:37:06.000 I have a program that I'm running, trying to train journalists in some of these techniques so that when they get in the fight, when they feel the heat, they can be confident in their reporting.

00:37:16.000 It's something that we all have to do.

00:37:17.000 And for a friendly little in-house criticism of those of us on the right, it's something that we have to do better.

00:37:23.000 We have to be more disciplined.

00:37:24.000 We have to be more rigorous.

00:37:26.000 We have to be better in all aspects of our reporting, because we're going to be put under more scrutiny than our opponents.

00:37:33.000 And on one hand, that sometimes is a challenge.

00:37:37.000 On the other hand, it forces us to be better.

00:37:40.000 And I think that that's what it's going to take.

00:37:42.000 Where do people find out about that?

00:37:43.000 Because I mean, I think that's interesting.

00:37:44.000 I think you're right.

00:37:45.000 It's important.

00:37:45.000 I literally, I open up my show, you know, every day saying, hey, with what we're up against, with, you know, the bias that's out there, we have to be, you know, better, smarter, you know, more, do more diligence, you know, each and every day as we do this.

00:37:59.000 And that's just, that applies across the board.

00:38:01.000 So I'd love for people just to know where they can do that.

00:38:03.000 If people are interested in it, if there's aspiring journalists and they're, you know, concerned about, you know, not being just a left-wing shill, I imagine that'd be really helpful to people.

00:38:11.000 Yeah, actually, thanks for asking.

00:38:13.000 It's a great time.

00:38:14.000 You know, I'm running a program called the Manhattan Institute Logos Initiative.

00:38:18.000 We're actually going to be putting up applications shortly for our next cohort of reporters.

00:38:23.000 It's going to be focused on investigative work.

00:38:24.000 It's a year-long program.

00:38:25.000 There's an honorarium.

00:38:27.000 There's a retreat.

00:38:28.000 It's really helping reporters take the next step in their career.

00:38:31.000 You can find it on my X handle is at real Chris Ruffo.

00:38:36.000 I'll be posting about it.

00:38:37.000 You can just search Manhattan Institute Logos Initiative.

00:38:40.000 We're going to be selecting 10 reporters.

00:38:42.000 And look, some of our Logos reporters, we broke the Claudine Gay plagiarism scandal.

00:38:47.000 We broke the Texas Children's Hospital secret transgender program scandal.

00:38:52.000 We did the Aurora migrant story.

00:38:55.000 And then now, of course, we're chasing down leads in Springfield, Ohio, and also coming up in Charleroi, Pennsylvania.

00:39:07.000 Yeah, I imagine there's probably a lot of communities around the country that we haven't even, you know, covered.

00:39:11.000 And I think, you know, frankly, the media going so hard against it means you probably know you're over the target.

00:39:16.000 But talk about that a little bit.

00:39:17.000 I mean, you know, obviously, the Claudine Gaye was a big thing, you know, taking out the president of Harvard who plagiarized everything throughout the wazoo. 0.94

00:39:23.000 I mean, you know, the Frankly, the reaction to, uh, you know, you're just fact-driven, uh, you know, something that would have gotten anyone else fired in about .2 seconds, uh, you know, it was sort of amazing, I mean, but it shows you how far the other side has gone, but, you know, you did do the big piece, uh, in the City Journal on Aurora, Colorado, uh, which has sort of a lot of parallels to this.

00:39:45.000 You know, what did you find there?

00:39:46.000 That's obviously about the migrants that took over, you know, literally housing buildings in, in the United States, and it's like, nothing to see here, folks. 1.00

00:39:52.000 It's, it's incredible.

00:39:54.000 Well, we did a couple things.

00:39:55.000 First, we dispatched a field reporter to actually go to the apartment complexes, talk to residents, talk to people who are running the complexes, talk to city officials to actually get a sense and a feel for what was happening, conduct interviews, collect information.

00:40:09.000 We got exclusive video from an insider inside the actually management company of those properties.

00:40:16.000 And then we also had a researcher working on looking at documents.

00:40:20.000 Non-profits have to publish their financials every year.

00:40:24.000 Cities and the federal government published budgetary statements and what we found was quite amazing.

00:40:29.000 There was a flow of funds, millions of dollars, from the Biden-Harris administration to city and state governments in Colorado to these unaccountable NGOs that were passing through millions of dollars.

00:40:42.000 And then these people were bringing in and signing rental agreements, lease agreements, for hundreds of Venezuelan migrants in the town of Aurora, Colorado, some of whom had connections with the violent gang members from Tren de Aragua.

00:40:57.000 And so you had this really kind of interesting story where it's like, it's not just about the Venezuelan takeover of this apartment building.

00:41:06.000 The story that we uncovered that I think is so important is like, it was all done with Biden-Harris cash.

00:41:12.000 Yeah.

00:41:13.000 The federal taxpayers were subsidizing the takeover of these places by migrants, many of whom were illegal, and some of whom were connected with violent organized crime. 0.97

00:41:25.000 I mean, that's the situation we're in, and we also know that the NGO operators We're dramatically bumping up their salary, bumping up the budgets for their organizations.

00:41:37.000 And so everyone is profiting, except for the actual citizens and taxpayers that this kind of arrangement affects.

00:41:45.000 Yeah, I mean, I always sort of say there's no money in peace, but it seems for a lot of these NGOs, there's also no money in a secure border.

00:41:53.000 You know, talk about how much of these, like, so-called non-profits, you know, talk about the numbers, because they are making profits like you wouldn't believe on the border invasion, again, paid for by the U.S.

00:42:04.000 taxpayer to the detriment of the American citizen in many cases.

00:42:09.000 That doesn't mean there's not some nice people that come across the border, but when we're letting, you know, Well-known gang members come across, drug traffickers, human sex traffickers.

00:42:18.000 I mean, it's just totally indiscriminate and they don't care.

00:42:21.000 I guess it's just another dollar, you know, or whatever dollars may be per person that comes across.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, I mean, you look at the budgets for some of these organizations.

00:42:30.000 They'll go from, you know, a $500,000 budget to a $20 million budget in one year, totally subsidized by the taxpayer.

00:42:38.000 And so they're pulling in big money to manage the flow of the migrant crisis.

00:42:44.000 They get actually paid more, and we've seen this.

00:42:46.000 One of our Logos reporters did a great story showing that the worse the migrant crisis gets, The more money that these NGOs get, and then the higher the salaries that the executives give themselves.

00:42:58.000 And so they have this perverse incentive.

00:43:00.000 When the migrant crisis gets worse, it's very, very good for their business. 1.00

00:43:03.000 That lesson holds across many different domains.

00:43:06.000 But there's another important component about this.

00:43:09.000 Why doesn't the government just do these programs itself? 0.53

00:43:12.000 Why doesn't the government just directly manage it? 0.90

00:43:15.000 Because the government is accountable to the people through things like FOIA requests.

00:43:20.000 Department of Homeland Security, I can request almost any document they're required by law to give it to me.

00:43:25.000 So I can see what the government is doing, and journalists can monitor the government's actions, the government's communications, but not with non-profit organizations and NGOs.

00:43:35.000 They can be fully funded by the government.

00:43:37.000 They could be fulfilling the requirements of a government contract.

00:43:41.000 They could be moving thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens across the country.

00:43:48.000 But I, as a journalist and as an American citizen, don't have the right to actually inspect their books in a comprehensive way, don't have the right to inspect their communications, and don't have a right to really request any information at all.

00:44:00.000 And so we've seen them through all of these various NGOs, shell companies, and real estate schemes.

00:44:08.000 The federal government is just pumping this entire ecosystem full of money.

00:44:13.000 It's totally unaccountable, and the incentives are totally at odds with the best interests of the American people.

00:44:18.000 I mean, tell the people watching a little bit exactly what an NGO is.

00:44:23.000 It does seem like it's clearly the vehicle designed to circumvent those laws so that you can spend billions of your taxpayer dollars without any accountability to the people.

00:44:31.000 But they are getting an endless flow of tax dollars every fiscal year.

00:44:35.000 Can we stop that in a second Trump administration?

00:44:39.000 Just how entrenched is all of this?

00:44:42.000 It seems like it's designed to be a workaround.

00:44:45.000 How do you stop it?

00:44:47.000 I mean, you know, yes, the short answer is absolutely you could stop it.

00:44:51.000 I mean, you stop it really through two methods.

00:44:53.000 First is you stop the flow of illegal migrants over the southern border.

00:44:59.000 And guess what?

00:45:00.000 We know how to do it because we saw it between 2016 and 2020.

00:45:05.000 It was the reality.

00:45:06.000 It was the status quo.

00:45:07.000 And so the first thing is stopping the flow of new entrants.

00:45:10.000 That's a prerequisite.

00:45:11.000 Absolutely.

00:45:13.000 A second Trump administration would know how to do that.

00:45:15.000 The second thing is to work with Congress to say, you know what?

00:45:19.000 We have to cut off the flow of funds to these NGOs.

00:45:22.000 A lot of these NGOs were spun up or significantly expanded only in the last few years.

00:45:27.000 They could be cut off from funds tomorrow.

00:45:29.000 The second thing that I think is really important that we should absolutely do and consider is if you take federal funds over, let's say, $10 million a year, every nonprofit organization, 501c3 in the tax code, also called an NGO or non-governmental organization, You should be subject to federal FOIA laws.

00:45:47.000 And so if, let's say, Catholic Charities is getting hundreds of millions of dollars, for example, throughout its various components to facilitate the flow of migrants over the southern border, Americans should say, well, we now have a right, because we're paying for this operation, to request information from you.

00:46:04.000 You have to provide it.

00:46:05.000 And so I think those, you know, Three methods.

00:46:09.000 Stop the flow of new migrants over the border, stop the flow of funds to these corrupt NGOs, and then any NGO that is running large-scale government contracts require that they be subjected to FOIA.

00:46:27.000 I love all of those things, and if we have, I'm going to make sure to the best of my ability that something like that happens.

00:46:32.000 But why doesn't the legacy media want to tell these stories?

00:46:35.000 I mean, I would think that if you're an investigative journalist and legacy media, and you could show hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer waste going against the will of the people, Dissolving, uh, you know, so many, uh, creating so many problems.

00:46:52.000 Uh, why are they so scared of this?

00:46:53.000 Why are they so okay with hiding it, not reporting about it, talking about it, and or pretending that these people are doing yeoman's work as opposed to exactly the opposite?

00:47:02.000 Yeah, we could talk for hours on just this topic.

00:47:05.000 It's a really important topic.

00:47:07.000 I'll give you two answers, though, that I think are most pertinent.

00:47:11.000 First is kind of a personal dynamic.

00:47:14.000 If you were working at one of the left-wing magazines, newspapers, TV shows, and you proposed a story on this, Um, you know, your colleagues would raise their eyebrows, and I think your career chances would be, uh, hampered.

00:47:29.000 You know, I talk with reporters from a lot of these left-wing newspapers.

00:47:32.000 I have good, friendly personal relations with them.

00:47:34.000 Uh, and it's very clear, you know, there is an ideological line at these publications.

00:47:39.000 And if you crossed it, you're basically, uh, you know, kind of marginalizing your own chance of rising through the organization and getting its rewards.

00:47:47.000 Uh, but the second, the bigger picture reason for this is that these are partisan entities.

00:47:52.000 And in fact, that's okay.

00:47:54.000 This is actually pretty normal in American politics.

00:47:57.000 Newspapers were almost always partisan in nature from before the American founding

00:48:03.000 up through, let's say, the World War II period.

00:48:05.000 It changed as it consolidated into the big three television networks

00:48:11.000 that had to have kind of wide range of general advertising.

00:48:14.000 And now it's fragmenting again into partisan orientation.

00:48:17.000 And so I'm not optimistic that we're gonna be able to change that.

00:48:21.000 And I'm not frankly convinced that it would be better if we went back

00:48:26.000 to let's say the model of the big three networks in say, you know, 1961.

00:48:33.000 But what I think it requires is those of us on the right to really do an analysis and then to get smart about how we use the funds that we do have in the most effective way possible.

00:48:44.000 What kind of news organizations do we need to build?

00:48:46.000 What kind of reporting techniques do we need to master?

00:48:49.000 And then what kind of story should we really be telling to drive counter narratives to the establishment narrative?

00:48:55.000 Look, we've done it.

00:48:57.000 For the last two weeks, we're talking about Aurora, we're talking about Springfield.

00:49:01.000 Of course, horrifically, we're talking about this second assassination attempt.

00:49:06.000 We have the ability to get dominance in this discourse, in the kind of narrative flow of the country.

00:49:14.000 And so while we're at a disadvantage on size, we're not in a disadvantage on what's right, and we're not in a disadvantage if we can be very tactically sound in how we approach these issues.

00:49:27.000 And so this is the moment where we have to rise to the occasion and we have to build something that can counter what is, of course, a hostile and partisan establishment.

00:49:39.000 Yeah, I mean, can you talk about that a little bit more?

00:49:41.000 I mean, even going back to the sort of the concept of like open society after the Cold War.

00:49:45.000 I mean, the regime's media behavior today, we can actually trace back decades.

00:49:51.000 You know, can you sort of give us some historical context to how we got where we are?

00:49:56.000 Yeah, of course.

00:49:58.000 What you really have, and just take the New York Times.

00:50:01.000 The New York Times is still the most important newspaper in the country.

00:50:05.000 It's the agenda setter for the left, but really it's the agenda setter for the median, say, you know, kind of newspaper reader.

00:50:12.000 It's the most important paper.

00:50:14.000 Whether we would like that to be or not, that's the fact on the ground.

00:50:17.000 Part of it is just the composition of who actually works at the New York Times, who are the reporters for the New York Times.

00:50:22.000 If you go back to, say, 1970, a lot of the people in the New York Times newsroom would be, you know, blue collar, come from the middle class, maybe a state school education, maybe a high school education even.

00:50:36.000 And they'd be going to drink after work and be like the ink-stained wretches of the New York Times.

00:50:44.000 And you said this at newspapers all over the place.

00:50:46.000 That was the model.

00:50:48.000 Now if you go to something like the New York Times, it's kind of a predominantly Ivy League.

00:50:53.000 But what it brings with it is a totally different cultural sense.

00:50:57.000 of let's say the Ivy League.

00:50:58.000 It's people with elite family backgrounds, people that come from money,

00:51:01.000 people that are kind of highly educated in these institutions.

00:51:07.000 But what it brings with it is a totally different cultural sense.

00:51:10.000 And so you see a totally different cultural sense over time.

00:51:13.000 I've talked with reporters at the New York Times about this, especially older reporters.

00:51:17.000 And then the ideologies that emerged first in those institutions

00:51:21.000 become the default ideologies of the paper.

00:51:24.000 You actually saw this play out between 2020 and 2024 at the New York Times.

00:51:28.000 You had young reporters that were going all-in on George Floyd, all-in on trans, all-in on every fashionable kind of cause from, you know, Barnard College.

00:51:37.000 And then you had the older reporters thinking, oh man, I'm going to get canceled.

00:51:40.000 I'm going to get destroyed.

00:51:41.000 I'm going to get taken into a struggle session.

00:51:43.000 We have to figure out how to manage the ideology at the paper.

00:51:47.000 And so you have an ideological conquest that is also synonymous with a kind of class conquest.

00:51:53.000 A new class of people populates these institutions.

00:51:56.000 That's bad for obvious reasons, but it's also bad for a reason related to immigration, let's say, surprisingly. 0.63

00:52:03.000 Look, people who go to work at the New York Times, go to work at NPR, go to work at related publications, they don't come from places like a kind of tough, rundown town in the Rust Belt or in Ohio.

00:52:19.000 They don't live next to Haitian migrants that have caused these kind of cultural conflicts in these outer suburbs, exurbs, or flyover countries, they would say.

00:52:31.000 And so they're insulated from the consequences.

00:52:33.000 They're insulated from the reality.

00:52:35.000 I mean, if it's not happening in Manhattan or Brooklyn, it might as well not be happening.

00:52:41.000 Because for them, it's just an ideological symbol.

00:52:43.000 Haitian migrants are a symbol of diversity, a symbol of tolerance, a symbol of multiculturalism.

00:52:49.000 Anyone who opposes it is just a racist.

00:52:52.000 But they don't actually have to deal with the more complex reality on the ground because they're insulated from it.

00:52:58.000 I think it's a tremendous disservice and I think that the media's blind spots is really because of those reasons.

00:53:07.000 Yeah, I think there's a reason it's also why they hate like someone like a JD Vance who actually came from those things who understands those people who can talk to them And they can't even fathom You know, those are the basket of deplorables.

00:53:19.000 Why would we even talk to them?

00:53:21.000 So it I mean it it's it's pretty bad Yeah, it is.

00:53:25.000 And I mean, I think, you know, and again, you know better than I do.

00:53:28.000 I don't know your father.

00:53:29.000 But I mean, I think it's part of the reason why they don't like him too.

00:53:32.000 Because look, blue collar, middle class, hardworking people love Trump.

00:53:38.000 They just love him.

00:53:39.000 I mean, you see it everywhere.

00:53:41.000 And for them, you know, for the people, like, for them, it's just a kind of aesthetic question that they hate it.

00:53:48.000 They hate what it represents.

00:53:49.000 They hate the symbols of it.

00:53:51.000 And they hate, too, that they have lost the connection with working people.

00:53:54.000 Look, the left for 150 years, since Marx, the idea was that they would have the working class, the union household, the factory worker, the agricultural worker.

00:54:04.000 They would rise up and overthrow the elites.

00:54:07.000 What happened with the left is now it's inverted.

00:54:09.000 The left controls all of the elite institutions and they're declaring a revolution against the working-class people.

00:54:15.000 That's precisely who Donald Trump and J.D.

00:54:17.000 Vance are representing in this election.

00:54:19.000 They're trying to actually stop a revolution of the elites against the American middle class.

00:54:25.000 And so they are not only, you know, seen as kind of class traitors or kind of gauche, outsiders.

00:54:34.000 You know, your father from Queens, J.D.

00:54:36.000 Vance, You know, from a rough and tumble background in Ohio.

00:54:41.000 But they actually threaten to beat those people at their own game.

00:54:45.000 I think that's what they hate the most.

00:54:47.000 And that's what I like most about the Trump Vance ticket.

00:54:50.000 It's like, you know, a true kind of counter-revolutionary movement to say, you know what, we actually love this country.

00:54:58.000 This country is not fundamentally evil.

00:55:00.000 We love the people of this country.

00:55:02.000 And we're going to make sure that the people have their voice heard in these institutions.

00:55:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I think with, you know, also, you know, newspaper subscriptions are way down.

00:55:10.000 There's less of that traditional, you know, Sunday paper that everyone kind of used to read.

00:55:15.000 So instead of trying to sell you an entire paper, they're trying to sell you on every link, every click, every little headline, every piece of clickbait.

00:55:24.000 You know, it's a fundamental structural flaw.

00:55:27.000 To the news business, probably, these days, because everything sort of has to be sensationalized, and everything has to be done in 140 characters or less with no nuance and no nothing, and it's just, you know, sort of outrage cycle after outrage cycle.

00:55:39.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:55:41.000 And so look, I like polemics.

00:55:44.000 I appreciate the history.

00:55:45.000 Look, American journalism has always been polemical.

00:55:48.000 It's always based on outrage.

00:55:50.000 It's always based on scandal.

00:55:52.000 That's just the history of newspapers.

00:55:54.000 But what I think that we need to learn, the real lesson for the right, is we can't simply get in these outrage cycles.

00:56:00.000 We can't get stuck in the cycle.

00:56:02.000 It has to be used to direct energy towards a concrete goal that is making the country better.

00:56:07.000 And so, what I think is really important about some of these stories, for example, in Springfield, in Ohio, or Aurora, Colorado.

00:56:15.000 Yes, these are shocking stories.

00:56:17.000 Yes, these should be setting off alarm bells for Americans.

00:56:21.000 But we have to orient them always towards then solving the problem and making things better.

00:56:25.000 And so, if we can connect these stories that have real resonance in the country, With a positive vision for actually solving the underlying problems and then using them to put forth some good policies.

00:56:38.000 I think that's good journalism.

00:56:40.000 I think that's a responsible use of even outrage, even scandal.

00:56:45.000 And I think that, look, that's the name of the game.

00:56:48.000 That's how we're going to fight.

00:56:50.000 That's how we're going to wake people up to what's happening.

00:56:53.000 And that's how we're going to improve the fortunes of this country for everyone.

00:56:58.000 I think that makes a lot of sense.

00:56:59.000 I mean, so I guess given all that, Chris, you know, what are the biggest stories right now that aren't being covered?

00:57:04.000 Do you see any of these things sort of popping up?

00:57:07.000 Obviously, it's going to be a crazy, what is it, you know, 50 days to the election, 49 days till the election, or, you know, are some big investigations that you can preview right now that you're already working on?

00:57:18.000 Yeah, of course.

00:57:19.000 We're working, of course, on this series of migration stories.

00:57:23.000 We want to expose this corrupt migrant NGO scam to show exactly how the Biden-Harris administration is essentially laundering money through these NGOs to facilitate this huge flow of migration.

00:57:36.000 But look, I think there's, and this is a horrible thing and I hope to be wrong, But I think that there's a chance of civil conflict.

00:57:46.000 I know that the groups on the left, for example, are ratcheting up the pressure.

00:57:50.000 We saw that last time, of course, in 2020, horrifically.

00:57:53.000 And so I think that we all have to be ready.

00:57:56.000 And of course, you know, we have to be very careful.

00:58:00.000 We have to, obviously, you know, we're committed to civil discourse.

00:58:03.000 We're committed to resolving problems through dialogue, through voting, through normal processes.

00:58:08.000 But we should also be prepared to show exactly, in my case, how the left is organizing its kind of street protest movements.

00:58:19.000 I have some analysts that are working on this.

00:58:21.000 They're already seeing movement from some of these violent left-wing networks.

00:58:25.000 I think we want to expose them before there is any violence to prevent violence.

00:58:29.000 None of it was organic.

00:58:31.000 It is all planned.

00:58:31.000 We shouldn't even be having to talk about these things.

00:58:34.000 But given the assassination attempts, given what happened with the last election, rather the last cycle from 2020 with George Floyd onward, you know, we have to do the best we can to prevent and disrupt any kind of civil conflict.

00:58:50.000 Yeah, no, I think that's so important.

00:58:52.000 Anything you can do on that.

00:58:53.000 And guys, if you see it, if you see Chris posting about it, make sure you get it out there.

00:58:56.000 None of it is organic.

00:58:58.000 None of it is real.

00:58:59.000 It's all pre-planned.

00:59:00.000 It's premeditated.

00:59:01.000 Yeah, and there's no doubt in my mind that they're going to be doing a lot of the same. 0.77

00:59:07.000 And it's disgusting.

00:59:08.000 It needs to be stopped.

00:59:09.000 Chris, thank you very much, guys.

00:59:11.000 Make sure to check out Chris on X, you know, as well as some of the other programs that he's doing.

00:59:16.000 Really important stuff.

00:59:17.000 One of the few guys out there, you know, not just going with the narrative of the mainstream and has the guts to actually cover it all.

00:59:23.000 So, Chris Ruffo, thank you so much for joining us.

00:59:27.000 Really important stuff.

00:59:28.000 Thank you.

00:59:28.000 Thank you so much, everyone.

00:59:30.000 Keep your heads level, keep calm, keep confident, and keep cool.

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