Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Corrupt UN Carbon Tax Exposed, Interview with John Konrad | TRIGGERED Ep.285

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00:08:34.000 Joining me now, founder of gcaptain.com and the author of Fire on the Horizon, maritime and shipbuilding expert John Conrad.

00:08:43.000 John, welcome to the show.

00:08:45.000 Thank you for having me on, Don.

00:08:47.000 Oh, it's my pleasure.

00:08:48.000 So obviously, it's very timely for someone with your expertise to start.

00:08:54.000 Can you just introduce yourself to the audience a little bit and give a big picture view of your story and sort of maritime expertise?

00:09:03.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:09:04.000 I was born in the great city of New York.

00:09:06.000 My dad was a Vietnam vet medic and put himself through Cornell Medical School.

00:09:13.000 His specialty was plastic surgery.

00:09:16.000 It was just emerging at that time, but he really wanted to help the people of New York.

00:09:21.000 He was frustrated by the liberal policies.

00:09:24.000 The Bronx was absolutely burning.

00:09:26.000 People don't realize just how bad the city got in the 70s and 80s.

00:09:31.000 I was there.

00:09:31.000 I mean, I was born in 77.

00:09:33.000 So, like, you know, I get it, man.

00:09:35.000 There were places that you just wouldn't even think of going if you were actually from New York because you probably weren't going to make it out.

00:09:42.000 Yeah, he was averaging, he was rescue three, so they were kind of like the Navy SEALs of the fire service, only went to the biggest fires.

00:09:49.000 He actually had two SEALs on his team.

00:09:52.000 And, you know, the bottom line is we grew up poor because he wanted to help prevent this spread of fire.

00:09:58.000 He was averaging two to three fires a night.

00:10:01.000 So I grew up in the Bronx and then in grade school, moved to one of the wealthiest, most liberal suburbs, Larchmont.

00:10:10.000 And here is a poor kid, very conservative, just thrown into this.

00:10:15.000 You know, everyone says that the liberals, the Democrats are this party of empathy.

00:10:20.000 I tell you, they've been nasty and mean, you know, at least that upper echelon since I was a kid.

00:10:27.000 Got beat up a lot.

00:10:28.000 And I remember going to Fleet Week and seeing a big Navy ship and being like, you mean I can get on there and get on a uniform and leave and actually go out to sea.

00:10:38.000 So I went to the Naval Academy, studied up.

00:10:40.000 Unfortunately, my dad died of cancer, buried in Arlington, transferred to the Merchant Marine Academy in the Bronx, and worked my way up to captain.

00:10:49.000 But as you know, there's nothing like heavy construction.

00:10:53.000 I mean, just actually building something with your hands, whether it's buildings or ships.

00:10:58.000 So I went into offshore construction, got the Guinness Brooklyn World Record, biggest LNG find in the world, and then built ships in Korea, some of the biggest, most technologically advanced, and worked my way up.

00:11:12.000 And then you work six months on, six months off, at six months off.

00:11:16.000 I built G-Captain.

00:11:18.000 All the maritime news in the world was kind of run by the globalists, Lloyds List.

00:11:23.000 It was the longest running publication in the entire world at the time.

00:11:28.000 And, you know, there was no American perspective.

00:11:31.000 So we built G-Captain to be the largest, most read maritime and Navy news site in the world.

00:11:37.000 Well, you know, as the saying goes, whoever controls the seas controls the trade of the world.

00:11:42.000 And I guess going back for a few years, especially with trade being so relevant right now, we've seen a major convergence of Chinese port investments and Russian naval presence across Latin America.

00:11:56.000 Why is that?

00:11:57.000 And what does it mean in the context of the growing U.S. Navy fleet currently in the Caribbean?

00:12:02.000 Well, we've abandoned our maritime policy, our naval policy.

00:12:07.000 We've maintained a strong Navy, but the Navy has really become a support structure for these forever wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:12:15.000 Navy recruiting has moved more towards SEALs, which are awesome, and submarines and the aviation aspect.

00:12:23.000 But we've really knocked down a notch on the warships.

00:12:29.000 The great white fleet of Teddy Roosevelt is no longer.

00:12:34.000 And on the other side, the maritime side, the logistics, the one thing I would like everyone to remember is every single lesson from Eisenhower back to Washington, logistics wins wars, and that is critical.

00:12:50.000 And we had, you know, after World War II, we had a vast network of bases and ports and slowly atrophy in those.

00:13:00.000 And the Chinese have filled that void, and they couldn't build the warships right away. 0.76

00:13:06.000 Now they have a larger fleet than us.

00:13:08.000 But how they did it was filling that vacuum and getting into the ports and getting into our backyard.

00:13:15.000 They know we have the best satellite technology in the world, but one EMP up in that space and you're back to surface level, submarines, drones, combatants, and those ports, the cranes, they're all built by China. 0.99

00:13:30.000 They all have cameras.

00:13:31.000 They have Chinese nationals in it, providing that network of intelligence.

00:13:35.000 90% of all world trade is at sea.

00:13:40.000 It's a big intelligence operation back to China.

00:13:43.000 Yeah, I mean, talk about that a little bit.

00:13:45.000 You mentioned sort of logistics controlling so much.

00:13:48.000 During World War II, we had those bases around the world.

00:13:50.000 We used to joke as real estate guys.

00:13:52.000 It's like if something was a former U.S. naval base, it was probably the best location, location, location of anything that there was.

00:14:00.000 You wanted a development there because we had all of these things.

00:14:03.000 Those logistics were so critical for World War II.

00:14:05.000 That cut off the supply chains of the Germans and the Axis forces.

00:14:09.000 It's a really big deal.

00:14:11.000 What made us sort of seed all of those things?

00:14:13.000 I mean, when we're giving up air bases and ports and they're getting swarmed and taken over by the Chinese, it doesn't make any sense. 1.00

00:14:20.000 But how do we get there?

00:14:22.000 That's a long story.

00:14:23.000 I don't know how long you have, but the answer is Alpha Threyer Mahan's The Influence of Sea Power Upon History.

00:14:29.000 Teddy Roosevelt read this.

00:14:31.000 Like your dad, Teddy Roosevelt was a best-selling author.

00:14:34.000 He had written the book on the naval battles of the War of 1812.

00:14:39.000 So he had that, you know, being an author, understanding the topic, and then brought in Mahan, the preeminent naval thinker of our time, and they built the Great White Fleet together.

00:14:51.000 But what the Great White Fleet wasn't just power, strategic power, and guns on ships.

00:14:58.000 This is back in the coal days where that was really a signal to the world that not only can we put this firepower forward and send it around the world, but we have the coaling facilities, we have the oil facilities, we have the logistics network to sustain that entire fleet.

00:15:18.000 And that's something that China has struggled with.

00:15:20.000 They kind of underweight logistics, but how they're doing it otherwise is getting in these ports and particularly these choke points.

00:15:28.000 Mahan said you need strong Navy ships.

00:15:31.000 And unfortunately, when you go to a Navy conference now, these admirals don't know what they're talking about.

00:15:36.000 They talk about the half of the book that's about battleships and destroyers and the surface, but they don't talk about the other half, which is the merchant marine and the power of these logistics hubs.

00:15:47.000 Remember, back in World War II, we delayed that D-Day for years.

00:15:52.000 We put the Army on the back seat as we built up that naval component into the Pacific, and those ports were the string.

00:16:01.000 That's why the Marines had such casualties, because you had to take those islands to be the logistic port.

00:16:08.000 Well, the service that lost the highest percentage of people in World War II was the Merchant Marine because these ships were defenseless.

00:16:20.000 And these German submarines came in and absolutely obliterated our merchant fleet.

00:16:27.000 We did not have enough destroyers and they came in right into the Pacific.

00:16:32.000 You go back to Hemingway, had his option, you know, the guy who loved being in the front line.

00:16:37.000 He was in the Spanish Civil War and fighting in Italy, and he decided he was going to spend the beginning of the war in the Caribbean protecting it.

00:16:45.000 Because look at this war in Ukraine.

00:16:48.000 Everyone gets this wrong.

00:16:49.000 They think that this war is about land territory in Ukraine.

00:16:53.000 That's not what it's about.

00:16:55.000 Those rivers are absolutely vital for moving equipment and traffic down the entire inland waterway, which is massive of Russia.

00:17:05.000 They don't have good roads.

00:17:06.000 Their railroads are only decent.

00:17:08.000 It all goes down through Crimea, that Kirch Strait Bridge.

00:17:12.000 That's what he's focused on.

00:17:14.000 That's why the war on the eastern side is so much more intense and he's not going in.

00:17:19.000 Well, that is their New Orleans.

00:17:22.000 Our New Orleans enters into the Gulf of Mexico and then in the Caribbean.

00:17:26.000 So you lose that absolute choke point, and then you lose choke points like Panama. 0.99

00:17:33.000 You lose Gibraltar.

00:17:35.000 You go to Diego Garcia, which the Brits are now giving up to the indigenous people, our military base there.

00:17:41.000 These critical choke points. 0.79

00:17:43.000 It's ridiculous. 0.59

00:17:44.000 Well, yeah, no, the Hemingway story is a great one. 0.91

00:17:46.000 I remember reading that book.

00:17:47.000 I mean, he was out there on his fishing boat.

00:17:48.000 I guess it was called the Pilar, right?

00:17:51.000 I think so.

00:17:51.000 And, you know, literally looking for submarines and other things that would be obstructing those channels in the Caribbean back in the day.

00:17:58.000 Because we didn't have enough destroyers and the destroyers we needed, we needed to send out to the Pacific.

00:18:02.000 You know, we did, as much as that shipbuilding was awesome in World War II, it didn't really start until 1936.

00:18:10.000 It was still ramping up at that beginning of the war.

00:18:12.000 So how do you view the critical need for shipbuilding and maritime dominance within the framework of sort of this new Monroe doctrine we're seeing under my father's second term?

00:18:22.000 Absolutely love it.

00:18:23.000 It's critical.

00:18:24.000 I mean, look at this, this Panama, the initial focus of Ruby on Hegseth going down there.

00:18:28.000 You have China controlling both sides of the Panama Canal.

00:18:31.000 Why is that important?

00:18:32.000 And I've seen pushback just yesterday.

00:18:35.000 I retweeted some of the Democrats saying, why are you giving Argentina $40 billion in loan?

00:18:40.000 Because our Navy is split.

00:18:42.000 We're two coasts, right?

00:18:43.000 Our Navy is in Norfolk, and the other half of the Navy is in San Diego.

00:18:48.000 And if we can't get warships back and forth, we've cut our sea power, our projectum power in half.

00:18:56.000 So it's absolutely critical that we control these choke points and control the resources.

00:19:02.000 I mean, the Gulf of America has, I love this, you know, 10 years ago when they said peak oil, we're going to run out of oil.

00:19:08.000 I worked on the drill ships in the Gulf of Mexico.

00:19:12.000 We've only gone out 100, 120 miles.

00:19:15.000 There's the entire rest of the Gulf of America.

00:19:18.000 It's just rich with resources and oil and minerals on the seabed.

00:19:24.000 Your father understands that, and he understands this is our backyard, and it's not the Gulf of Mexico.

00:19:29.000 It's the Gulf of America.

00:19:31.000 But if we don't invest, if we don't build the ships to actually go out there and drill for this oil to get these resources to spread our trade around the world, our exports.

00:19:44.000 Now you have China clamping down on American shipping companies.

00:19:48.000 We only have 82 merchant ships in international service right now.

00:19:54.000 How did we get there?

00:19:55.000 Because I mean, you're talking about splitting up our Navy by losing the canal or the ability to get back and forth quickly.

00:20:02.000 How did we get there to only have 82 merchant marine ships in service?

00:20:06.000 I mean, was it because no one until my father actually cared?

00:20:09.000 Or was it this apathy?

00:20:12.000 I guess the Navy folks called it sea blindness engineered.

00:20:18.000 Right.

00:20:19.000 That's the conception is that just nobody cared.

00:20:23.000 Our heroes in America are generals, the Western expansion.

00:20:28.000 That's why Teddy Washington.

00:20:29.000 Not lately.

00:20:29.000 We haven't had a lot of generals that have won wars since Eisenhower's out.

00:20:35.000 That's the reason once.

00:20:36.000 I'm talking back to the Grants and the Washingtons. 0.99

00:20:44.000 That's the myth that Americans just don't care.

00:20:46.000 Well, I'm here to tell you it was an engineered withdrawal from maritime trade.

00:20:54.000 90% of everything, everything in the world is transferred on ships.

00:20:59.000 And the elites love their airplanes.

00:21:02.000 They love roads.

00:21:03.000 They don't love trains so much.

00:21:05.000 But they understand the importance, especially these globalists in London, that that is the critical.

00:21:12.000 That's 90% of everything.

00:21:13.000 And not just trade itself, but it's all dollar denominated.

00:21:18.000 So I love building ships.

00:21:19.000 You love building buildings.

00:21:20.000 But when we put a billion dollars into a building, that money is kind of stagnant.

00:21:25.000 It's sitting there.

00:21:26.000 It's slowly while you're constructing, but then you're just getting rents over the time.

00:21:31.000 Every transaction on the sea, when I sell a container ship full of stereos or their grain shipments, every time that's moved from port to port, it's transferred in dollars.

00:21:44.000 And that puts liquidity in the system.

00:21:46.000 Without the liquidity, you don't have reserve currency status.

00:21:50.000 So the elites understood this.

00:21:52.000 And what happened is after World War II, we took over from the UK this reserve currency status.

00:21:58.000 We built the maritime UN organization and put it in London.

00:22:03.000 We built the system for this trade using flags of convenience.

00:22:08.000 And a lot of these shipping companies are not U.S. crude, but they're on the stock exchange.

00:22:14.000 Well, Britain got really angry and they said, you know, their economy fell apart.

00:22:19.000 So what they decided to do was go into the shadow banking world.

00:22:23.000 They weren't going to get the reserve currency for the stuff above board.

00:22:27.000 They went into the shadow.

00:22:29.000 What does that mean?

00:22:30.000 That means they went into Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Ireland tax havens, and all of this flowed through Panama.

00:22:38.000 And this is what George Bush understood.

00:22:40.000 We say we invaded Panama because of Nor Riega. 1.00

00:22:44.000 No, it was all this illicit activity.

00:22:46.000 And it all started with a delegate from the International Maritime Organization.

00:22:50.000 You look at the Panama Papers did not make a big scene in the U.S. In the UK, it did.

00:22:56.000 And all that money tied back to London and the insurance and Lloyd's registry.

00:23:02.000 And what happened was it was, you know, America gets blamed for these forever wars.

00:23:07.000 And the Middle East and Iraq, it was Margaret Thatcher and the Europeans who convinced Bush to leave Panama and send into the first Gulf War.

00:23:16.000 And that's what really started it.

00:23:18.000 American oil companies, and I worked for them for years, they did not extract a lot of oil during these forever wars.

00:23:24.000 It was the Shells and the BPs that were pushing it.

00:23:27.000 But really, it was to get us out of our backyard, this Panama, the Bermuda, the Cayman Islands, the Bahamas, where all of this, you know, we've totally neglected our own hemisphere.

00:23:39.000 But you're saying that was actually by design because, you know, again, I'm no fan of the elites and the globalists, but America has their fair share of elites and globalists as well.

00:23:48.000 Well, they love the system because they can put their tax money in the Cayman Islands with everyone else.

00:23:53.000 And what happened was the globalists really backed Bill Clinton and Ross Perot to split the money and the ticket so that Bush, after Kuwait, he wasn't able to get back and focus on Panama, back to focus on our backyard.

00:24:07.000 And the deal they made with Bill Clinton is, we'll let you be president, but you're not getting into the maritime world.

00:24:13.000 You're not investing in the IMO.

00:24:16.000 We haven't had a maritime ambassador.

00:24:19.000 Every other country has a full-time maritime ambassador there.

00:24:22.000 That was the deal they made, back away and kind of get the mainstream media away from the media, get the education away from sea power and Mahan and everything else and turn our back on it.

00:24:35.000 And I think that was the deal that Clinton made in order to win that election.

00:24:40.000 And it's just been going downhill ever since.

00:24:43.000 And, you know, frankly, the GOP loved it too because it lowered the price of trade without American ships and American crew.

00:24:51.000 It was cheaper.

00:24:53.000 Which consequently basically created our only export for the last 50 years, which was the American dream, which we sent abroad forever.

00:25:01.000 And you're saying that all originated really in shipping, tax law, trade, et cetera.

00:25:08.000 Yes, it's all based on all our laws are based on the British Commonwealth system.

00:25:15.000 We've taken it, we've revised it, we've done better.

00:25:18.000 But that system, the UK system, is based on two things.

00:25:21.000 One, Christianity, the laws of the Bible and what Jesus said.

00:25:25.000 Not anymore.

00:25:26.000 Not anymore, exactly.

00:25:27.000 And number two is this world trade where the complexities of this global network have gotten so complex that they had to create new laws to manage it.

00:25:37.000 And after World War II, we took over the system and we took the power.

00:25:41.000 You know, we have a lot of veto laws.

00:25:43.000 We have a lot of things that are baked in the system that people have forgotten about.

00:25:48.000 And that's, you know, what I was working with the White House a little bit last week in the State Department, reminding them, we built the system.

00:25:54.000 We have leverage over the system.

00:25:57.000 Just because we haven't used it, just because we haven't had a maritime ambassador since Bill Clinton, doesn't mean we don't have the power to reassert our needs here.

00:26:06.000 So how do we do that?

00:26:07.000 How do we take that back?

00:26:08.000 How do we focus back on our hemisphere and regain that kind of control? 0.83

00:26:12.000 You know, when you're up against, you know, again, you know, multiple decades of sort of policy that was designed to minimize our efficacy and power.

00:26:20.000 Well, that's a problem.

00:26:21.000 And it wasn't just efficacy and power.

00:26:23.000 This UN carbon tax at the maritime organization, this was written by the U.S. representative, Mete Medina.

00:26:35.000 She was born in Panama.

00:26:37.000 She went into the Coast Guard and she married an American who happens to be homosexual and they got divorced right afterwards.

00:26:46.000 But she got that citizenship, went to the IM, Biden centered to the IMO, and dual citizen, and she was working with the Panama interest and the U.S. interest.

00:26:55.000 She wrote the entire policy.

00:26:58.000 And this is what Biden and Obama were so good about, telling Americans this isn't important, getting rid of the, you know, demoting the admirals, demoting the maritime ambassadors, demoning that, putting these junior staffers who have no idea, young people, what they're doing in these critical and letting them just write whatever laws and things they want.

00:27:18.000 And this is the result with this carbon tax.

00:27:21.000 And luckily, no one, you know, up till last week, nobody knew about this maritime tax.

00:27:26.000 Yeah, like, listen, I do this, right, for basically for a living at this point.

00:27:30.000 And I had no idea this was even coming.

00:27:32.000 This was a resolution over at the UN about this carbon tax.

00:27:36.000 My father said, you know, you're putting it off for at least a year.

00:27:38.000 Can you give us the full background on what it means?

00:27:41.000 What are the implications?

00:27:42.000 How we got there?

00:27:43.000 How someone who even, again, follows this stuff really closely had no idea this was even a thing.

00:27:50.000 And what were the implications of it had it gone through?

00:27:53.000 Well, they're really upset that we are asserting control.

00:27:56.000 And the editorials this week since this happened, just anti-Trump, anti-Trump from the European.

00:28:04.000 Well, we're used to that, but yeah.

00:28:07.000 But this is, these are the globalist family.

00:28:10.000 These are the families that have run trade for centuries.

00:28:14.000 These are families that have more wealth.

00:28:16.000 It's better hidden, but more wealth than Elon Musk.

00:28:20.000 Because 90% of everything moves through this organization.

00:28:25.000 And like I said, it's been so well hidden by our mainstream media and our education ignoring it that no one knows about it.

00:28:32.000 Thank God your father understood this.

00:28:35.000 I have no idea how this crossed his radar, how Rubio and Waltz doing an amazing job said, wait, this is important because nobody else in America realizes it.

00:28:46.000 But they want to control that 90% of trade and they want to kick us off of the reserve currency status, right?

00:28:53.000 So what they came up with was this green tax and the Wall Street Journal said it was $200 billion tax.

00:29:01.000 Well, that's just in 2030.

00:29:03.000 This balloons in 2040 to 2050 if ships don't hit zero emissions.

00:29:09.000 So ships have to hit zero emissions by 2050.

00:29:13.000 Batteries and saltwater really work well together.

00:29:16.000 It's impossible.

00:29:18.000 So it was a slush fund, and they were going to use that for these NGOs that Rubio shut down with U.S. aid.

00:29:25.000 And this was going to be a U.N. slush fund, not only for the NGOs and all these liberal circumcisions in Uganda and all this nonsense that USAID shut down, but an attack on America reasserting its dominance in the world.

00:29:42.000 And I have to tell you, they do this thing.

00:29:45.000 Hey, Trump is anti-environment.

00:29:48.000 Trump is anti-humanity.

00:29:50.000 He's against poor people.

00:29:52.000 Well, what has lifted more people out of poverty than anything in the history of the world?

00:29:58.000 It's the shipping container, which was invented by American.

00:30:01.000 The fertilizer, these grain ships, the humanitarian aid, these guys were going to tax all of it, Don.

00:30:08.000 And your dad understood that.

00:30:10.000 And CO2, let's talk about CO2.

00:30:12.000 What's the number one cause of CO2 in the world right now?

00:30:15.000 The number one new cause other than China's coal factories. 0.76

00:30:20.000 It's all of these ships having to go all the way around Africa, enormous hundreds of millions of cubic meters of CO2 going in.

00:30:29.000 And, you know, then you got Greta Thurnberg actually, you know, clapping the Houthis on while these ships have to go full speed around. 0.97

00:30:39.000 It's just, you can't make this stuff up.

00:30:41.000 But that's.

00:30:42.000 What's the resolution called again?

00:30:43.000 Because I think, you know, the more people hear about it, at least they start paying attention to what's actually going on.

00:30:48.000 Because again, it sort of surprised me and they were like, oh, it's a UN tax thing.

00:30:51.000 It's just a green new scam thing.

00:30:55.000 They're covering up.

00:30:56.000 What was it specifically called?

00:30:58.000 And again, how did it get this far without us being able to figure it out?

00:31:03.000 And what happens?

00:31:04.000 I know they stalled it for a year, but what happens after that?

00:31:07.000 Well, the stalling it for a year, first of all, was just absolutely brilliant 4D chess by your dad's administration, Mike Waltz.

00:31:16.000 Because if they had, you know, there's a lot of MAGA, you know, giving me comments.

00:31:20.000 Well, it's just a delay.

00:31:23.000 We didn't shoot it down.

00:31:24.000 Well, if we had shot it down, they would have came back with a brand new, probably worse resolution in April that was worse.

00:31:30.000 This gives us an entire year to come out and fight this thing.

00:31:35.000 So the delay isn't like some sort of, you know, you're succumbing to those guys.

00:31:38.000 It actually has a tactical advantage over just shutting it down entirely.

00:31:42.000 Right.

00:31:43.000 They're going to keep trying.

00:31:44.000 You know, of course, they never stop.

00:31:47.000 They're right back at it.

00:31:48.000 They're right back at it as we speak.

00:31:50.000 So this made them take a full stop for a year.

00:31:53.000 And we don't have any representatives at the IMO.

00:31:56.000 We just have a temporary team that goes out there.

00:31:58.000 We don't have a lot of appointees.

00:32:01.000 Your father created the first shipbuilding maritime office in the White House.

00:32:06.000 Now it's with Russ Voigt's team, Jerry Hendricks there.

00:32:11.000 We don't have, we have it there, but we don't, you know, Senate's waiting on confirming the U.S. Merchant Marine Commandant, the Maritime Administrator.

00:32:20.000 You know, you got huge number.

00:32:23.000 The Navy people don't understand this.

00:32:28.000 Whatchamacallit?

00:32:29.000 The MARAD only has 600 employees.

00:32:34.000 Compare that to the FAA, which has 30,000 employees.

00:32:39.000 And it's not just that.

00:32:41.000 Go back to World War II. 0.78

00:32:42.000 What was the biggest fleet in the world?

00:32:44.000 It wasn't the Navy fleet.

00:32:46.000 It wasn't even the Merchant Marine fleet.

00:32:48.000 It was the Army watercraft that were those landing craft in the beaches.

00:32:53.000 Well, Mark Milley, you wouldn't believe this.

00:32:56.000 He sold all of our expensive Army watercraft at auction.

00:33:01.000 We had a multi-million dollar tug boat.

00:33:03.000 He sold for $51,000.

00:33:06.000 And this is why Pete Budicek and Milley's Gaza Pier was a disaster.

00:33:12.000 62 Army casualties on that pier.

00:33:15.000 Three Americans died.

00:33:17.000 One soldier and two shipyard workers fixing at the fire.

00:33:20.000 I mean, if we can't get humanitarian aid into Gaza, which is not a big security deal, how are we going to fight a war in the Pacific?

00:33:32.000 And a lot of MAGA here are like, well, we don't want to fight for Taiwan.

00:33:36.000 First of all, that's your dad's decision.

00:33:38.000 It's no one else in this world's decision.

00:33:40.000 And he has to have the options.

00:33:40.000 Well, I think people are rightfully skeptical of the forever wars.

00:33:44.000 And when you look at what's going on in the Middle East, when you look at what, you know, and 30 years later, people still can't articulate the purpose of why we were there or we were there for just all-out lies.

00:33:56.000 I understand some of that, but I understand what you're saying.

00:34:00.000 Also, I mean, there's other things, Taiwan especially, that are critical, whether it's the, you know, they produce 90% of the microchips of the world.

00:34:07.000 So, why we have to be able to onshore some of these things, why we need to be able to have control of our own shipping and supply lines.

00:34:13.000 I mean, it all does add up.

00:34:16.000 Absolutely.

00:34:17.000 And, you know, the fight in World War II, if you go back and you read Nimitz, you read MacArthur, the number one thing was the Taiwan Strait and the Philippine Strait right there, because that's that choke point.

00:34:30.000 All the ships have to coordinate on that.

00:34:31.000 So it's not just chips, it's this choke point that China is focusing on. 0.58

00:34:35.000 But whether you want to defend Taiwan or not, we have over 300,000 servicemen and dependents within the Chinese missile shield in the Pacific right now.

00:34:47.000 How are you going to evacuate them?

00:34:49.000 You can't airlift them out because where are those air tankers going?

00:34:53.000 They're going down to Midway and Hawaii to refuel.

00:34:58.000 Well, guess what Obama did?

00:34:59.000 He took the massive air and ship fuel facility in Hawaii and he completely closed it.

00:35:06.000 And then he drained out the strategic petroleum reserve.

00:35:09.000 So we literally do not have the fuel.

00:35:12.000 We only have 10 tankers left.

00:35:14.000 There are thousands of tankers in the world.

00:35:16.000 China has thousands of ships.

00:35:17.000 We only have 10 left under the tanker security program.

00:35:20.000 And guess what?

00:35:21.000 A month ago, a Russian captain T-boned right into one of our only 10 tankers, going back to the shadow war thing that your father understands and no one else seems to.

00:35:32.000 Wait, when you talk about Millie selling off a big portion of the fleets, obviously the landing crafts wouldn't have been a part of this. 0.99

00:35:37.000 But is that also why perhaps we left $82 billion worth of equipment in Afghanistan?

00:35:43.000 We just didn't even have the ships to bring the stuff back because I was like, it doesn't make it.

00:35:47.000 Oh, it's cheaper to leave it there.

00:35:48.000 I'm like, really?

00:35:48.000 It's cheaper to leave tanks and helicopters?

00:35:52.000 It doesn't seem like that would be cheaper at all relative to shipping them back and not having to build them from scratch.

00:35:58.000 I love these conversations.

00:36:00.000 The Trump family just gets right to the heart of it because that's the thing.

00:36:03.000 It took us 20 years to get all that equipment in.

00:36:06.000 And again, the media and the education, they keep reminding us of the Berlin airlift and saying our air might.

00:36:14.000 Well, it was just like it was less than 100 miles from our airfield to Berlin and we barely made that.

00:36:19.000 The entire airlift capacity of the Air Force, which I love, and we need to revitalize that too because Obama and Biden killed that.

00:36:27.000 But the entire airlift capacity of the Air Force is less than the cargo capacity of one Chinese ship.

00:36:34.000 All of that equipment got in there by the Merchant Marine bringing ships into Pakistan and then the Army taking those securities.

00:36:41.000 That's why there were so many casualties.

00:36:43.000 That's why you look at the Tom Sawyers EOD, these explosive devices, because we had to caravan those in.

00:36:51.000 We were not flying these big, massive tanks and ammo and food in through Bagram Air Force Base.

00:36:58.000 And when Biden wanted to leave, Pakistan said, no way, you're not using it.

00:37:02.000 You're not withdrawing all of this because we don't like the Taliban.

00:37:07.000 They're going to use that equipment against us.

00:37:10.000 So it was leveraged by Pakistan to make us stay, not letting us export through the port, which is the only way we could have got that amount of equipment out.

00:37:20.000 I mean, it's crazy when you think of, when you think about it, it's like, you know, managed decline on purpose by people who should know better.

00:37:27.000 Because, again, if you're a general, you should probably understand basic logistics, especially after being in a war for 30 years.

00:37:32.000 Yeah, but Biden and Obama specifically went after the guys who are brilliant at logistics.

00:37:38.000 The commandant of the Merchant Marine, who hopefully your father's pec, Steve Carmel, will get confirmed today.

00:37:44.000 The Senate's been sitting on it, but those are the lobbyists saying, well, we'll confirm everyone else before this because they understand how important this is.

00:37:52.000 And not just that, you know, what ships the Army can't get its supplies.

00:37:57.000 We can't evacuate soldiers, but the Navy ships need these supplies going back to the coaling stations in Mahan.

00:38:04.000 This is why your dad just got me so excited talking about battleships. 0.52

00:38:08.000 And there was such a pushback from these admirals saying, battleships are ridiculous. 0.94

00:38:12.000 They're old. 0.94

00:38:13.000 They're a thing.

00:38:14.000 Well, what is the only thing working in the Red Sea right now?

00:38:17.000 It's not the submarines defending commercial ships.

00:38:20.000 It's not the two carrier groups we sent there.

00:38:22.000 It's these destroyers.

00:38:24.000 But we only have 70 destroyers and only a third can be forward deployed.

00:38:28.000 A lot of them are getting old.

00:38:29.000 And once they run out of their missiles, they can carry 96 missiles and only a portion of those are anti-air.

00:38:36.000 Once they run out of those missiles, they got to steam for two weeks to get reloaded.

00:38:40.000 A battleship is just a big destroyer with more missiles, more sensors, and more fuel because going back to tankers, we only have 10 tankers. 0.62

00:38:48.000 So we lose a couple of those tankers and suddenly we're not getting aviation fuel to our carriers.

00:38:55.000 And your dad just intrinsically understands that a battleship is its own little logistics hub, right, that moves.

00:39:04.000 So, you know, John, I guess, you know, given all that, you know, in the last few weeks, I've even had, you know, people talking about sort of, you know, the change of warfare, right?

00:39:09.000 The infantry is not the same since the advent of drones, but now you also have maritime drones and these sorts of things where, you know, no different than a crappy IED was taking out tanks with a little cell phone connection to some dynamite or C4.

00:39:25.000 You know, how does all of this change as it relates to battleships and destroyers that are out there that now can perhaps more easily be taken out by, you know, these are billion-dollar ships taken out by thousands of dollars drones?

00:39:41.000 I mean, how do we adjust for that?

00:39:44.000 Or does it still not matter?

00:39:45.000 We have the capability of doing it.

00:39:47.000 Because again, it feels like even in the last few years we've seen with the Russian-Ukraine war, you know, the entire battlefield dynamic has changed because of drones and some of these autonomous weapons.

00:39:58.000 There are serious problems, the drones.

00:40:00.000 These Chinese merchant ships, they have thousands of them.

00:40:02.000 They're built to military standards, which means they are hard to sink.

00:40:07.000 Well, they can put containerized drones, containerized hypersonic missiles on these, and suddenly there are thousands of merchant ships.

00:40:14.000 We only have 82, are weapons of war.

00:40:18.000 I think your dad understands that intrinsically, but the drones themselves, they have prompts.

00:40:24.000 It's 5,000 miles to Taiwan.

00:40:27.000 Our greatest drone has a 1,100-mile range.

00:40:31.000 And once they get there, they're either one use only if you can't get the tankers and the ammo ships to refuel them.

00:40:39.000 This is why your dad's most brilliant thing was he brought in three people into the Department of War.

00:40:45.000 Heg Seth, who's like lethality, lethality, and just pushing on these facts. 0.93

00:40:50.000 Dan Driscoll at the Army saying these drones not only have to be more lethal, but they have to incorporate that logistics.

00:40:58.000 How do we get them 5,000 miles?

00:41:00.000 We have not solved that.

00:41:02.000 And then John Phelan, who's, I wish he would do more interviews.

00:41:06.000 I wish he would get out there on the Sean Ryan show and your show.

00:41:09.000 But the reason your dad, I think, picked him is because here's a capital market guy.

00:41:14.000 Shipbuilding ports is a financial problem.

00:41:18.000 It's a construction problem.

00:41:20.000 You can't send a Navy Admiral to fix shipbuilding.

00:41:23.000 Do you know every single one of our Navy shipbuilding projects is delayed?

00:41:28.000 And most of them are delayed because, going back to this IMO-UN thing, there's a exclusion in the rules.

00:41:35.000 When we wrote the rules after World War II, we said these cannot pertain to Navy ships.

00:41:41.000 Well, Biden and Obama decided we're going to make our Navy ships comply with these rules.

00:41:47.000 So that's what Obama.

00:41:48.000 You had the whole green diesel fuel where they were taking French fry oil to fire our ships. 0.96

00:41:55.000 But they also put these massive scrubbers on our oilers in order to clean out the sulfur. 0.90

00:42:03.000 And they just, they don't work.

00:42:05.000 So we have these brand new oilers.

00:42:08.000 We've only deployed one.

00:42:10.000 This is the Harvey Milk, the infamous Harvey milkship.

00:42:13.000 It's useless because you have this UN carbon scrubber cleaning up the emissions of a Navy warship.

00:42:21.000 It's just absolutely, and you have these IMO guys.

00:42:24.000 They're all in our shipyards.

00:42:26.000 And the Merchant Marine, say, we can, if the war comes, we can take some Chinese ships. 0.88

00:42:31.000 We can force some of our allies to give us ships.

00:42:34.000 But who's going to sail into danger?

00:42:37.000 We don't have enough Merchant Mariners.

00:42:39.000 We only have a couple thousand of us.

00:42:41.000 There are only a couple hundred U.S. Merchant Marine captains like me.

00:42:45.000 The Navy had to lay up 17 ships, 17 ships they pulled from commission at the end of Biden.

00:42:51.000 And why?

00:42:52.000 Because the Coast Guard is mandating U.S. standards.

00:42:56.000 Our standards are higher.

00:42:58.000 And they're mandating U.N. standards.

00:43:00.000 So where everyone else in the world goes to these minimalist UN standards, I got to do all of the Coast Guard training, and then I got to do all the IMO training, and then I have to do all the Biden DEI leadership training.

00:43:13.000 To me, I've been out, I haven't been back to sea in 10 years.

00:43:17.000 If I want to go command a ship again, I got to go sit through three weeks of courses on DEI, and then the U.S. very relevant, though, to steering a ship.

00:43:29.000 I guess, I don't know.

00:43:33.000 This is the thing.

00:43:33.000 They say they protect women.

00:43:35.000 They protect, and I understand that.

00:43:38.000 I get that.

00:43:40.000 I like to protect women too.

00:43:40.000 I have daughters.

00:43:42.000 Look at the Midshipman X scandal.

00:43:44.000 We had the biggest rape scandal in the history of our country.

00:43:48.000 It made the Armed Forces rape scandal look tiny on the Merchant Marine ships, and Biden did absolutely nothing dealing with that.

00:43:57.000 I don't know anything about it.

00:43:58.000 What happened there?

00:43:59.000 Well, they hid the whole thing.

00:44:02.000 Students at the Federal Academy.

00:44:04.000 We have a Naval Academy, Coast Guard Academy, Merchant Marine Academy, Merchant Marine Academies on Long Island.

00:44:11.000 These girls who are Navy Reserve officers, but they're going to go into the Merchant Marine Reserve. 1.00

00:44:17.000 They were going out on their summers. 0.96

00:44:19.000 They go out on ships and straight up getting drugged and raped.

00:44:23.000 And during the whole Obama and the Biden and your dad's first presidency, because some of his staff weren't very good in there, they did not arrest one person.

00:44:35.000 There have been hundreds of rapes of college students at the Merchant Marine Academy.

00:44:39.000 There has not been one arrest by the Coast Guard.

00:44:43.000 How is that possible?

00:44:44.000 The FBI refuses to go out there.

00:44:46.000 And then when they go, oh, it's too hard to get on a ship.

00:44:49.000 And then when they finally do, they say the NBA.

00:44:51.000 You didn't stop them from raiding Mar-a-Lago with the HRT squad.

00:44:54.000 So, I mean, you'd think they'd be able to get out of ship.

00:44:57.000 But they were told, going back to Clinton, this was the deal Clinton made: do not mess with the ships.

00:45:02.000 Do not touch the globalist ships.

00:45:03.000 Do not send FBI there.

00:45:05.000 This is why we have huge cruise ships that are owned by foreign companies.

00:45:09.000 And, you know, none of them are U.S. flagged.

00:45:13.000 You know, the FBI, sometimes, if someone gets brutally murdered and it hits the news, the FBI will go out.

00:45:19.000 But they were given very clear instructions by the globalists: do not investigate ports, do not investigate ships, do not investigate any of this.

00:45:28.000 And this is, your dad understood this from day one, reopening the port.

00:45:32.000 If you looked at the union boss, DAG saying, you know, this is happening.

00:45:37.000 They're controlling us.

00:45:38.000 These companies are all foreign-owned and they're squeezing the American longshoreman. 0.54

00:45:45.000 Your dad understood that and reopened.

00:45:46.000 That would have absolutely devastated the economy. 0.89

00:45:49.000 Well, that was the deal Clinton made with the globalists to get into office with the Pero, you know, to knock Bush Sr. thing.

00:46:00.000 Don't look at the ships.

00:46:01.000 Don't look at the IMO.

00:46:02.000 Don't look at these bodies.

00:46:03.000 Pull out all our diplomats, pull out our CIA, our FBI.

00:46:07.000 And it worked for them for 10 years.

00:46:09.000 The globalists made a lot of money.

00:46:11.000 Everyone made a lot of money, but all of those factories got moved to China on ships.

00:46:16.000 That was part of it.

00:46:17.000 So we didn't notice that.

00:46:19.000 But what happened?

00:46:20.000 The Europeans were making all the money. 0.99

00:46:23.000 And then China came in. 0.97

00:46:24.000 They can't defeat us, but we didn't control maritime anymore.

00:46:28.000 And they could easily defeat the Europeans. 0.98

00:46:30.000 And this is why those NGOs with funds from China are absolutely knocking us over the head right now, trying to push back.

00:46:40.000 No one here cares about this.

00:46:42.000 They care about it and they care about it because they don't want you guys, they don't want Cash Patel investigating this organization, which traces its back right through the Panama Papers.

00:46:52.000 Look at the Panama Papers.

00:46:54.000 Biggest corruption scandal in the last 20 years.

00:46:57.000 That was started by an IMO delegate.

00:47:01.000 Well, so, I mean, a big theme in all of this is really, I guess, my father refusing to just accept that status quo that's been established by the elite and sort of accepted by the Americans for whatever reason.

00:47:13.000 I mean, is there a nexus between the Panama Papers, the cartels, perhaps juxtaposed to my father's agenda against tyrants like Maduro, the cartel traffickers that were shooting down, and yet the MS, the mainstream media, the Democrats seem awfully willing to help them out and protect them at almost all costs.

00:47:37.000 Is that what makes my father such a threat to the globalist status quo?

00:47:40.000 Or are the globalists in bed with darko-terrorists? 1.00

00:47:43.000 I mean, it almost seems like it.

00:47:45.000 What don't they want us to know here?

00:47:47.000 Well, like I said, we took the reserve currency from the Brits after World War II, and then they were fine for a little while, but they shut down factories and labor took over.

00:47:59.000 And they decided they are going to be the reserve currency for this shadow banking.

00:48:04.000 And you see it, all of these tags, Apple is incorporated in Ireland, a former British colony.

00:48:12.000 You have some of the biggest companies in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda.

00:48:15.000 It all ties back to this Panama Papers.

00:48:18.000 And the cartels are doing their dark money too.

00:48:22.000 So they couldn't control the reserve currency.

00:48:24.000 They had to get that British pound.

00:48:26.000 This is why the British pound did not go in with the Euro when they went into the European Union.

00:48:31.000 Interesting.

00:48:31.000 Because all of this money, and guess what, too?

00:48:34.000 This is the special relationship.

00:48:36.000 This is why the five eyes.

00:48:40.000 On this IMO board, the four countries that fought us the hardest was the UK, Canada, Denmark, and Brazil.

00:48:49.000 And you got to look at two Commonwealth countries there that are absolutely pushing back.

00:48:56.000 But those two are part of this five Eyes. 0.63

00:48:59.000 Well, that intelligence, they are connect plugged right into CIA and FBI headquarters.

00:49:05.000 Things that Cache Patel and Pam Bondi cannot get from these guys are flown into MI6.

00:49:11.000 Right across from this IMO headquarters, across the Thames, is James Bond, MI6.

00:49:16.000 All of this five I information is going from the CIA into there.

00:49:20.000 Why?

00:49:21.000 It's to make business decisions.

00:49:23.000 And this is the European media.

00:49:26.000 Reuters and the Deutsch, you know, all of these different countries, these journalists go out.

00:49:32.000 I was not allowed to get a press pass at the IMO, but all of these Europeans do. 1.00

00:49:37.000 And they're calling up the Pentagon people to get the information back, feed it to the security states, which are also sucking down this five eyes information and pushing it out.

00:49:53.000 And by the way, look at these navies, the Canadian Navy.

00:49:56.000 This is something else I want to bring up. 0.99

00:49:58.000 The Canadian Navy is absolutely pathetic. 1.00

00:50:01.000 It's not called the Cajun Navy could kick their butt. 1.00

00:50:05.000 They got like six old ancient destroyers. 0.99

00:50:09.000 Look at all those missiles coming from China.

00:50:11.000 If the Golden Dome, a lot of them are coming over Canadian waterways.

00:50:17.000 And Canada, New Zealand, Denmark's Navy is an absolute joke.

00:50:22.000 They got hit by the Houthis.

00:50:24.000 Their whole weapon system went down.

00:50:27.000 We can build back shipbuilding, but we need their participation.

00:50:32.000 Because even if we built the battleships for the Golden Dome, a lot of this is Canada's water.

00:50:38.000 Canada is the largest coastline in the world and no icebreakers.

00:50:45.000 They're having, they say they have a dozen icebreakers.

00:50:48.000 Most of these are tiny boats.

00:50:50.000 They're not big icebreakers like ours.

00:50:52.000 And then you got you and Charlie Kirk up in Greenland.

00:50:56.000 It's a big one.

00:50:56.000 That's important.

00:50:58.000 That's a big one.

00:50:59.000 So, you know, just for, you know, for those, because, you know, obviously, you know, we're sort of covering big picture issues that I think we all recognize, but there's a lot of, you know, sort of, you know, small detail in there.

00:51:09.000 I mean, for those who aren't that familiar that are watching, can you get into a little bit of the details explaining the Panama Papers and what that means to the average person?

00:51:17.000 Yes.

00:51:18.000 So the Panama Papers was a leak.

00:51:20.000 So everyone knows about Julian Assange and these leaks, the NSA leak.

00:51:29.000 Prior to that, there have been these big leaks and they've hit the U.S. news.

00:51:35.000 A lot of the times they hit the U.S. news to hurt your dad or other Republicans.

00:51:41.000 Well, the one that did not, which was bigger than all of this, bigger than WikiLeaks, bigger than Snowden, was this Panama Papers.

00:51:49.000 And it was just a firestorm in Europe of how much corruption led back to Panama.

00:51:55.000 And that Panama Papers was started by the delegate in Panama who was friends with the Secretary of General today's dad, Arsinio, who's in charge of this maritime organization, and Biden's junior Coast Guard staffer, Mete Medina, who wrote all of this.

00:52:13.000 It all ties back, their fathers in Panama early on were together.

00:52:17.000 The UK representatives went and talked to them, read the Taylor of Panama, talking about the absolute surge of MI6 officials into Panama to control that country.

00:52:31.000 And it was to establish a hub because you can't just have a reserve currency without the trade and logistics.

00:52:39.000 So they wanted to tie all of these networks of shadow banking, Cayman Islands, Bermuda, Switzerland, Ireland, into a logistics hub.

00:52:49.000 And Panama was the perfect place. 1.00

00:52:51.000 And George Bush and drugs were going through there too.

00:52:55.000 You know, what I was jumping up and down, Charlie Kirk brought me on the show when we first met because I texted him.

00:53:01.000 I said, why is the migrant issue even an issue?

00:53:05.000 Teddy Roosevelt literally built a moat across Central America.

00:53:09.000 You can't swim across that moat.

00:53:11.000 All we got to do is shut down the Panama Canal.

00:53:14.000 And the migrants can't come up from Colombia and Venezuela, but they refused to do it. 1.00

00:53:19.000 China paid the UN Migration Agency in the UN paid buses to bus migrants over the canal.

00:53:27.000 If we had just sent three special forces teams to take each of the bridges, we would not have had a migrant problem. 0.98

00:53:36.000 But they know this.

00:53:37.000 So for them, it's a fight to the death.

00:53:39.000 I mean, every NGO organization, I heard the president of the EU, Ursula, was on the phone the night before, just constantly berating every diplomat.

00:53:52.000 You have to vote with the EU on here.

00:53:55.000 Because if we dig into this, if Cash Patels opens an investigation on this maritime, if he ties it back to this Panama and starts asking questions like, who was bussing these millions of migrants over the canal that we built?

00:54:08.000 I mean, is that an FBI thing?

00:54:11.000 Is that domestic enough to be covered under the FBI?

00:54:14.000 I'm not an intelligence expert.

00:54:17.000 FBI, CIA, you would probably know more than me, but it's definitely in our purview to do this.

00:54:22.000 And that's the other thing.

00:54:24.000 When Clinton pulled this out, Carter sold the canal, and then Clinton pulled this out.

00:54:29.000 Where did that Southern Command headquarters, this beautiful building that we built on the canal that was the entire headquarters of our Southern Command, which used to be important with the Monroe document, that was all handed over to NGOs?

00:54:44.000 It's filled with these Marxist NGOs now.

00:54:47.000 And I don't know who can investigate it on.

00:54:50.000 That's not my expertise, but these are American agreements.

00:54:54.000 We signed over these NGOs.

00:54:56.000 It was our delegate at the IMO under Biden who created this UN global carbon tax.

00:55:04.000 Yeah, I mean, Carter is just, I mean, what a mess.

00:55:06.000 But I mean, he gave that over.

00:55:08.000 Didn't like 35,000 Americans die building the Panama Canal?

00:55:11.000 Yeah, and he knew better.

00:55:12.000 Here it is.

00:55:14.000 We'll give it back to you for a dollar.

00:55:18.000 And he was a naval officer.

00:55:19.000 He was a submarine officer.

00:55:20.000 He knew better.

00:55:21.000 He understood the thing, Alfred Thayer-Mahan. 0.99

00:55:25.000 This is what they play dumb. 0.96

00:55:27.000 Obama pretends he doesn't know anything about maritime. 0.98

00:55:30.000 He didn't even put a maritime administrator. 0.98

00:55:33.000 He didn't confirm it for five years of his administration pretending, dumb, I don't know anything about this. 0.96

00:55:38.000 This is complicated.

00:55:39.000 And then we saw him last week going to London and he was campaigning for this slush fund at a maritime organization that for eight years he says he knows nothing about it.

00:55:49.000 It's not worth our time. 0.97

00:55:50.000 I mean, it's just, it's so ridiculous. 0.95

00:55:53.000 I mean, that's sort of crazy. 0.93

00:55:54.000 I mean, yeah, you mentioned Carter being a submarine captain.

00:55:56.000 I mean, again, we touched on it a little bit earlier, but looking back to World War II, German U-boats were sinking hundreds of ships in the Caribbean before our Allied forces improved their anti-submarine warfare capabilities.

00:56:08.000 Now today, we sort of have a dark fleet of sanctions evading tankers that operate with impunity and a similar stealth, but with a different purpose.

00:56:19.000 So maybe I'd like to ask you, what lessons from the Battle of the Caribbean back in the 1940s can impact how we think about this new shadow maritime network?

00:56:31.000 Well, this is what the Germans tried to get in the canal.

00:56:34.000 They tried to get in the ports.

00:56:35.000 They failed at that, but they had this logistics chain for the submarines.

00:56:39.000 They had shipbuilding.

00:56:40.000 They were able to build a number of these.

00:56:42.000 And then they had actual logistics submarines, so these whales that went out and they were submarine tankers to provide that logistics chain into the Caribbean.

00:56:56.000 This is the shadow tankers.

00:56:58.000 Now we have, you know, we have drones.

00:57:00.000 I said before, drones don't matter because the Pacific is so big and those drones cannot go out and attack a battleship 1,000 miles.

00:57:08.000 Most of them can't even get 100 miles out.

00:57:11.000 But now you start putting these containerized drones on container ships.

00:57:15.000 And a container ship, I'm thinking, a Chinese container ship passes by a nuclear aircraft carrier in the Singapore Straits and suddenly the containers open up, drones come out and 50 guys come out with javelin missiles.

00:57:30.000 We don't have point defense systems for that warfare.

00:57:34.000 And this is going back to the Caribbean.

00:57:36.000 This is what FDR understood.

00:57:38.000 He said, I want Q-ships.

00:57:40.000 What are Q-ships? 0.77

00:57:41.000 They were merchant ships where they had cargo stacked over their guns and they dropped the cargo at the last minute.

00:57:48.000 They wait for the submarine to come attack.

00:57:50.000 They drop the cargo and hit it.

00:57:52.000 That's what China's building. 0.94

00:57:53.000 That's why these Chinese merchant ships, the thousands of them, they're not built to commercial standards.

00:57:58.000 They're built to Chinese military standards so that they will be hard to sink.

00:58:03.000 And it doesn't take much for them to just load them up with, and then they have the legs, right?

00:58:09.000 They have the range.

00:58:10.000 And where are they going to go first?

00:58:12.000 They're going to go to the choke points where all the ships converge.

00:58:15.000 The Panama Canal, the Suez Canal, the Strait of Gibraltar, the Singapore Strait, the Philippine Straits, Taiwan Straits.

00:58:23.000 These are where they're going to send them.

00:58:25.000 And any ship that comes by, this is why your dad's doing such great work at the Red Sea.

00:58:30.000 It's not just about the largest bombing campaign in aircraft carrier history.

00:58:34.000 It's not about the Houthis. 0.99

00:58:36.000 The Houthis are a bunch of bandits. 0.98

00:58:38.000 It's about China has a base there in Djibouti. 0.96

00:58:41.000 They're putting this control.

00:58:43.000 They're building a bridge over the Panama Canal right now so that when we close down the other three bridges, they can keep that migrant, that illicit stream over. 1.00

00:58:53.000 They can keep their people in. 1.00

00:58:54.000 These choke points, going back to what Mahan said, are what matter and the potential militarization of, and not just the thousands of container ships.

00:59:04.000 They have tens of thousands of fishing fleets just raking the ocean.

00:59:09.000 This is what all these Europeans, their number one thing is Trump hates the environment. 1.00

00:59:15.000 He does not care about the environment. 0.82

00:59:16.000 He's a meanie.

00:59:18.000 You have these tens of thousands of Chinese ships that are absolutely raking all the oceans of fish and all this carbon from going around the Houthis that your dad's trying to solve. 1.00

00:59:30.000 And the thing that, sorry to go on a rant, the thing that frustrated.

00:59:35.000 It's actually fascinating because it's like, it's hard to believe it's, you know, again, I'm not surprised with anything anymore, but it's hard to believe it's this bad and it happened, you know, under everyone's nose.

00:59:45.000 Yeah, it goes back.

00:59:45.000 Follow the money.

00:59:46.000 Follow that dark money to the Panama Papers through the IMO.

00:59:49.000 Follow the money of Rubio and Mike Ben shutting down this USAID.

00:59:53.000 They need that slush fund. 1.00

00:59:56.000 And here's the thing.

00:59:57.000 So is this the backfill of what they shut down with USAID?

01:00:01.000 Yes.

01:00:02.000 This is just the other, the end around around that idea.

01:00:04.000 Yes.

01:00:05.000 I mean, it's not new.

01:00:07.000 If you ask them, they're going to say, well, we've been planning this for years.

01:00:10.000 Well, when Trump came in office, they put speed on it.

01:00:14.000 And again, it wasn't, it was our person, Mayte Medina, our representative at the IMO, this junior level person, because Biden wanted to appoint a maritime ambassador.

01:00:22.000 And if one thing, please ask your dad to appoint a maritime ambassador there.

01:00:26.000 Because between sessions, all this happens in the back room, the smoke-filled rooms of London with these NGOs.

01:00:32.000 And they wanted the money.

01:00:34.000 And here's the crazy thing.

01:00:36.000 You know, we didn't think we would win this vote.

01:00:39.000 They had everything lined up against your dad, everything.

01:00:42.000 And it wasn't until the last minute that, you know, we really woke up to this vote.

01:00:47.000 Everyone I talked to said, we're going to try, but we're probably going to lose this vote.

01:00:53.000 And, you know, they were so arrogant that they were going to win this that they would not negotiate at all.

01:00:58.000 I was talking to State Department representatives.

01:01:01.000 They were willing to take a deal.

01:01:03.000 That's the crazy thing.

01:01:05.000 Your dad offer him a decent deal, and he's willing to take it.

01:01:09.000 And I told them, all you have to do is take our 82 ships.

01:01:12.000 We only have 82 and exempt them.

01:01:14.000 They don't have to pay the carbon tax.

01:01:16.000 And we probably would have signed on this slush fund to maybe let them do what they want with their ships. 1.00

01:01:22.000 But they were so arrogant and so want to attack the United States and attack your dad that they wouldn't even negotiate that minor point to grandfather and 82 ships.

01:01:33.000 I mean, there's just no rationality, which means something bigger's at play.

01:01:37.000 And what's bigger is at play is this hundreds of billions of dollars of NGO cash.

01:01:43.000 So, you know, John, you've compared today's shipbuilding crisis to the destroyer gap that worried naval strategists before Pearl Harbor back in World War II.

01:01:51.000 If those admirals were alive today looking at our shipyard capacity versus, say, China's, what would they tell Congress?

01:01:58.000 Oh, they would be apoplectic.

01:02:00.000 And that's what angers me so much is what you had absolute rusting ships. 0.82

01:02:06.000 I mean, what an embarrassment, an absolute embarrassment.

01:02:09.000 All our Navy ships were covered in rust.

01:02:11.000 They look like Russian ships from the 80s, and Biden didn't care.

01:02:15.000 And that's the image.

01:02:17.000 It's not just the power of the United States, but the image of the power that Roosevelt and Mahan knew.

01:02:22.000 That's why their ships. 1.00

01:02:24.000 The Great Wave Fleet was painted white.

01:02:26.000 That's a horrible color.

01:02:27.000 It's easy to target. 0.99

01:02:28.000 You're a shooter.

01:02:28.000 I'm a long-distance shooter.

01:02:30.000 You don't paint the target white unless you want it to be hit.

01:02:34.000 He did that because white is the hardest thing to hide the rust.

01:02:37.000 And that shows our attention to detail on these things that Biden threw out the window with this.

01:02:46.000 And that's why we had a recruiting crisis was all these drag shows on Navy ships. 1.00

01:02:51.000 Plus, teenagers, my son goes to Edmund Reynolds.

01:02:55.000 Jack, he's a big fan of yours.

01:02:56.000 He's watching him.

01:02:59.000 He watched these videos, and I was trying to get him into the Naval Academy.

01:03:03.000 And he goes, Dad, why would I go on that rusted ship?

01:03:05.000 I want to go on something that looks cool and an F-35 or something.

01:03:10.000 So it's just, they've not only attacked shipbuilding, but they attacked the very fabric, this attention to detail I learned at the Naval Academy.

01:03:19.000 The only ones to resist it is the Marines.

01:03:21.000 And look at the Marine Corps budget.

01:03:23.000 They're absolutely been squeezed the last 20 years because they stood up to this.

01:03:28.000 And our admirals, they won't talk about it. 0.84

01:03:31.000 You won't see an admiral go in Congress and say, yeah, it's bullshit that our ships are rusted. 0.79

01:03:36.000 And I talk to them in private, they're all upset about it, but none of them have that moral courage to get up, stand up and say, we're going to fix this. 0.77

01:03:45.000 And even this day, they're still fighting behind the scenes, the shipbuilding.

01:03:50.000 And that's why I'd love John Phelan is, you know, they wouldn't go to Wall Street.

01:03:55.000 It's a construction project.

01:03:57.000 All of our shipyards are private and public companies.

01:04:00.000 You have to raise capital.

01:04:02.000 And when, you know, the Morgan Stanleys and the Goldman Sachs went and said, hey, we would love to give you $10 billion for a shipyard.

01:04:11.000 Here's what happened.

01:04:12.000 They go, I would love to give you $10 billion.

01:04:14.000 Show us the statistics.

01:04:16.000 Well, Biden ended all.

01:04:18.000 There are no statistics.

01:04:19.000 This maritime organization, they got rid of all their inspectors, all these statistics.

01:04:24.000 So the risk analysis goes, we have no federal numbers to even look at for this.

01:04:29.000 And then you go to the big defense contractors like HII.

01:04:34.000 Well, if they build a $10 billion dry dock, they got to maintain that over 20 years.

01:04:39.000 So Obama said, well, don't build the dry dock. 0.96

01:04:42.000 What we're going to do is we're going to hire McKinsey to do a study.

01:04:46.000 We're going to pay you $5 billion to figure out why the ships are why we can't build them.

01:04:51.000 And then when that study ends, what's the study say?

01:04:55.000 Well, we didn't dive deep enough.

01:04:56.000 Now we need another $5 billion.

01:04:58.000 And every year they get to study this.

01:05:01.000 This is why there are so many Democrats in D.C. You got buildings full of people to study problems where you know construction.

01:05:09.000 Yeah, it's not rocket science, John.

01:05:11.000 The hard hat, hard hat and boots.

01:05:13.000 Well, man, there's a lot to unpackage here.

01:05:17.000 I got to educate myself clearly a lot more as well.

01:05:20.000 So, John, we're going to have to have you back because clearly, there's just so much we got to cover.

01:05:25.000 And just make it, get it out there for the people.

01:05:27.000 That's why we ask them to share.

01:05:29.000 Think about these things.

01:05:30.000 Because again, even a guy like me who does this, like still had no idea it was this bad or that this little thing that they were trying to slip through under our noses had such major implications.

01:05:40.000 But maybe to close on a broader note, did you see the Secretary of War Pete Hegstein's speech to the Navy football team after their win over Air Force?

01:05:50.000 I'm just curious what you think moments like that mean for recruiting.

01:05:54.000 And what's our opportunity to really rebuild our military, which clearly needs it?

01:05:59.000 Well, my dad was a medic in Vietnam and then a New York City firefighter.

01:06:05.000 He gave me three rules in order to live through my 20s.

01:06:08.000 He said, if you avoid these three things in your youth, you're going to live.

01:06:14.000 Don't drink and drive.

01:06:15.000 Do not ride motorcycles and do not join the Marine Corps.

01:06:19.000 He said 90% of all the deaths, and he saw thousands of young guys' death come from those three things.

01:06:24.000 And the Marine Corps weren't the intellectual branch.

01:06:28.000 And then they got so squeezed by Clinton that they invested in with John Boyd, the fighter squadron guy, invested in higher education and really looking how we do more with less.

01:06:42.000 And what they came up with that is while everyone else is closing bases and dropping standards, we're going to double down.

01:06:48.000 They fought this DEI from the beginning.

01:06:51.000 And right now they are ready.

01:06:52.000 They're ready to go.

01:06:53.000 And Hexa keeps saying the Marine Corps has it, has it been.

01:06:57.000 And your dad brought a Marine Corps general in charge in the Naval Academy.

01:07:02.000 I can't tell you what apoplactic shock this created with these DEI admirals.

01:07:08.000 The Marine Corps, they know what they're doing.

01:07:10.000 It works.

01:07:11.000 Focus on those attention to details.

01:07:13.000 Focus on the lethality. 0.99

01:07:15.000 Get rid of the damn rust and start building ships. 0.99

01:07:18.000 Okay, we can't build 100 destroyers today. 0.99

01:07:22.000 Put the hard hat, the boots on, go into the shipyards, get those statistics, get the data, and bring them to Goldman Sachs.

01:07:30.000 You know, that's what you can put on a hard hat and then you can put on a suit and walk into the finance.

01:07:36.000 You do it all.

01:07:36.000 It's not difficult.

01:07:39.000 Well, John, I really appreciate it.

01:07:42.000 John Conrad, guys, check him out.

01:07:44.000 And John, we'll have to have you back because it seems like there's a lot more we didn't unpackage in an hour here.

01:07:49.000 But I look forward to hearing more.

01:07:51.000 Thank you so much for your time.

01:07:52.000 That was great.

01:07:54.000 Thank you so much.

01:07:55.000 And what we said in the beginning, sea blindness.

01:07:57.000 We got to get this information out.

01:07:58.000 You guys are amazing.

01:07:59.000 Thank you for having me.

01:08:00.000 We got to leave that to the guys watching.

01:08:02.000 Make sure they're sharing, liking, sending it out there to the world because, yeah, it's hard to believe something this big just totally went even under my radar.

01:08:09.000 But we won.

01:08:10.000 Your dad did it.

01:08:11.000 He closed him down.

01:08:12.000 Thank you, John.

01:08:13.000 Appreciate it.

01:08:13.000 We'll see you soon.

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