Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Darren Beattie Knows What's Coming Next: Major Revolver News Investigations

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00:05:43.000 come to another huge episode of trigger Tonight we're going to be joined by the great Darren Beattie.

00:06:05.000 Darren is a friend of the show.

00:06:07.000 He runs Revolver News.

00:06:09.000 He's broken a lot of really interesting stories that no one else seems to want to cover, strangely.

00:06:15.000 We wonder why that is. Every interview we've done with Darren has been a hit, and I'm sure this one will be too, because there's so much to talk about, especially with his background in academia as maybe the I guess the only, let's call it, academic for Trump back in 15 and 16, etc. So I think you're going to really like this one, guys.

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00:06:55.000 So before we get to Darren, a quick rundown of all the latest headlines, the craziness from the weekend that we'll talk about with him as well.

00:07:04.000 But we got to begin with everyone's favorite crackhead, Hunter Biden.

00:07:09.000 Who is finally facing some actual felony charges.

00:07:13.000 At least, you know, that's the optics they want you to believe right now.

00:07:17.000 But on Thursday night, Hunter Biden, we talked about it a little bit on the show live there, but we didn't have any actual information.

00:07:23.000 Hunter Biden was indicted on several tax charges for failing to pay $1.4 million in income taxes.

00:07:31.000 The indictment details how Hunter spent hundreds of thousands of dollars on hookers, And drugs and took out $1.6 million from ATM machines in a four-year period of time.

00:07:47.000 Now, that's pretty amazing in a largely cashless society.

00:07:51.000 I imagine for me in that same period of time, it was probably like 10 grand.

00:07:54.000 But, you know... Minor details, folks.

00:07:57.000 I'm sure it's all above board.

00:07:59.000 This is the same guy that needed his dad to get a truck loan during that same period of time.

00:08:04.000 He took out $1.6 million from ATM machines.

00:08:08.000 Didn't want to pay child support, but blew hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, on hookers and blow.

00:08:17.000 Totally normal, folks.

00:08:18.000 This is the smartest man that Joe Biden knows.

00:08:23.000 The indictment will help Hunter Biden avoid taking a deposition before the House Oversight Committee.

00:08:29.000 We discussed this last week, guys.

00:08:30.000 Remember I said it? Mark my words.

00:08:33.000 He'll plead the fifth.

00:08:35.000 The DOJ is literally helping him out with this charge.

00:08:39.000 They're doing him a favor.

00:08:41.000 And Joe Biden will surely pardon Hunter after November 20th.

00:08:46.000 Whether he loses or wins in November, regardless.

00:08:50.000 It's not looking good for Joe, but who knows what games the Democrats are up to.

00:08:56.000 But that's what they're doing.

00:08:57.000 Of all of the charges that Hunter Biden could be guilty of, all of the crimes we see the evidence of, and wire transfers, and links, strangely, nothing here has been linked to Joe Biden.

00:09:12.000 This is not the DOJ... Getting justice and equal justice under the law and all the other nonsense.

00:09:19.000 This is them working directly for Joe Biden and the Democrat Party, making sure to not go after the things to tie to his father.

00:09:30.000 And of course, you have the leftists on the media and on Twitter saying, he's not an elected official.

00:09:35.000 I know. He was just sending 10% to the big guy because he's not an elected official.

00:09:41.000 This is insanity.

00:09:43.000 The real story is not whether Hunter paid taxes, or the millions of dollars he made, or the banks questioning why he was getting money from the CCP entities despite not really actually performing any services, but why he made those millions of dollars.

00:10:02.000 The indictment shows that in 2014, Burisma agreed to pay Hunter Biden a million dollars a year for a no-show job at an energy company of which he knows nothing about in a language he doesn't speak.

00:10:18.000 However, in March of 2017, after Joe Biden left office and was no longer the vice president, Burisma magically cut Hunter's pay in half to $500,000.

00:10:32.000 I wonder why that is, folks.

00:10:35.000 You think maybe, just maybe, they were buying access?

00:10:39.000 No way! That would never happen, right?

00:10:42.000 Joe Biden is toast, by the way, folks.

00:10:45.000 We see that every day. The Wall Street Journal released a poll on Saturday showing my father leading him by four points in a head-to-head matchup.

00:10:52.000 It must have killed the globalist journalists to read that.

00:10:57.000 The reason is Biden's losing is simple, folks.

00:11:00.000 People are poorer now than they were just four years ago.

00:11:05.000 A whopping 76% of Americans told CBS News, not exactly conservative publishing, that their income isn't keeping up with the pace of inflation.

00:11:18.000 And it's not even close, folks.

00:11:20.000 I'm the son of a billionaire, and if I see that, everyone's getting crushed, okay?

00:11:25.000 The Wall Street Journal report this morning showed just how unaffordable life has become for Americans under Joe Biden.

00:11:34.000 The average monthly new home payment when Biden took office was just $1,700.

00:11:42.000 At the end of the Trump administration, the average monthly new home payment now is $3,300.

00:11:53.000 That's not affordable.

00:11:55.000 That's not sustainable.

00:11:57.000 That's before you take into account inflation and everything else.

00:12:03.000 Okay, this is by design.

00:12:06.000 Remember the quotes like, you won't own anything and you'll be really happy, right?

00:12:11.000 Just like you'll be really happy eating bugs while the rich still eat meat and yada yada yada.

00:12:17.000 Meanwhile, there are deadly consequences to Biden's open border.

00:12:22.000 An illegal immigrant was arrested in Texas for the murder of a 16-year-old cheerleader.

00:12:28.000 This is what happens when you let millions of unknown people come into your country, folks.

00:12:34.000 Many of them with criminal backgrounds.

00:12:36.000 But, you know, Biden can't even make an argument for why his policies are good.

00:12:41.000 So instead, he has to try to smear his opponents as extremists, despite the fact that his actions are that of fascist dictators.

00:12:51.000 My father had the perfect response to this during a speech in New York just this Saturday.

00:12:57.000 Check it out. I tell that to Biden, I say, Joe, when he gets up, we've got to stop the MAGA extremists.

00:13:07.000 Yeah, I'm extreme about making America great again, right?

00:13:11.000 We're extreme. We're extreme.

00:13:15.000 Democrats are going to try all sorts of dirty tricks to win next year, folks.

00:13:21.000 It's already started.

00:13:23.000 Just last week, a black woman was arrested for trying to burn down Martin Luther King's birth home in Atlanta.

00:13:32.000 Watch this clip and see what happened.

00:13:34.000 What are you doing?

00:13:42.000 What are you doing?

00:13:45.000 No, that's gasoline. Guys, expect to see a lot of this in 2024, okay?

00:13:54.000 Had it not been for the Good Samaritans that caught them in the act, this would have been blamed as an arson by MAGA extremists.

00:14:03.000 How many other race-based hoax have we seen in the last year?

00:14:07.000 How many have been caught...

00:14:10.000 Quite a few, right?

00:14:12.000 Some of the biggest have actually been caught.

00:14:14.000 We learn it's a lie.

00:14:16.000 Then, all of a sudden, the story magically disappears.

00:14:20.000 When they're not caught, we're left assuming it had to be some sort of, you know, white supremacist because that's, according to the FBI, the biggest problem facing America today.

00:14:31.000 No one seems to know any of these people or actually see them, but had it not been for the people that caught this lady, that's who would have been blamed because they're trying to sow discord.

00:14:41.000 They can't help themselves.

00:14:43.000 It's what they do because it's been very effective.

00:14:47.000 The left and the media are going to push hoax after hoax after hoax next year in hopes of rigging the election in Joe Biden's favor and doing the bidding of the Democrat Party.

00:15:00.000 This is not going to stop.

00:15:03.000 It's been going on ad nauseum.

00:15:06.000 But I do want to end on some good news before we get to the interview with Darren.

00:15:11.000 Liz McGill is no longer the president of my alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania.

00:15:17.000 While I've really been disappointed in my school...

00:15:21.000 The place where I graduated and hold a degree from for leading the charge of putting men into women's sports.

00:15:28.000 Remember Leah Thomas, esteemed female swimmer that just wasn't so good as a guy?

00:15:34.000 That was Penn. That was my alma mater.

00:15:37.000 We would have had a blast back in the day showing up at the swim meets with a keg just laughing about this, but today you'd get thrown out.

00:15:43.000 Problem is, you won't seem to get thrown out for being anti-Semitic.

00:15:49.000 You won't get thrown out for calling for the genocide Of an entire race of people and turning a blind eye to the anti-Semitic insanity that's going on.

00:16:00.000 But at least their board was the first to act.

00:16:04.000 While they've been first to act in a lot of really bad ways lately and leading the charge of woke insanity, at least the board showed some sense.

00:16:14.000 There are repercussions for the lunacy that's taken over academia.

00:16:20.000 Let's hope this is the beginning of that.

00:16:23.000 Let's hope this is the start of many changes at universities.

00:16:29.000 For far too many years, America's colleges have been breeding grounds for extreme leftism.

00:16:35.000 I wish the boards of these universities woke up earlier, but it's better late than never.

00:16:42.000 Changes need to come at Harvard as well, where pro-Hamas university president Claudine Gay is refusing to resign.

00:16:53.000 Journalist Chris Ruffo reported yesterday that it seems gay plagiarized entire sections of her PhD thesis.

00:17:02.000 If she can't get fired after refusing to punish calls for genocide or plagiarizing her thesis, then DEI is truly unstoppable.

00:17:13.000 Just a few hours ago, 500, I believe it was, other academics at Harvard signed a letter

00:17:23.000 in support of Gay.

00:17:24.000 Now, she's not a noted author.

00:17:27.000 She's not the author of numerous articles.

00:17:30.000 She's barely had a presence in academia, but because she is, I believe, gay, because she

00:17:36.000 does check off a couple boxes, she can assume the leadership at Harvard.

00:17:44.000 It's unbelievable, but it's just the beginning.

00:17:48.000 College campuses are important because what happens there spreads to the rest of society.

00:17:53.000 This week in Fresno, California, hundreds held a rally where they raised the Palestinian flag and chanted from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.

00:18:06.000 They raised that flag in replacement of the American flag that belonged on that flagpole.

00:18:13.000 Radical colleges means a radical country.

00:18:18.000 That's what we see.

00:18:19.000 It's not just the president of Harvard or the president of MIT, the 500 people that stand in solidarity with her despite, again, apparently no real accomplishments, despite backing and standing up for a radical insanity.

00:18:40.000 Despite plagiarism and being called out for that, they're just fine with it because they don't actually care.

00:18:46.000 These are no longer merit-based places.

00:18:49.000 They don't care for that.

00:18:52.000 Just look at the admission statistics according to race and scores.

00:18:56.000 It's way out of whack.

00:18:59.000 But again, Darren has a great academic background.

00:19:04.000 Again, one of the only academics that stood in support of Trump.

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00:21:50.000 With that, guys, joining me now, guys, great friend of the show, Revolver News founder, Darren Beattie.

00:21:58.000 Darren, great to have you back.

00:21:59.000 But your academic background as the founder and only member of Academics for Trump, Back in 2015-2016.

00:22:11.000 Literally the only person probably who took a salary at a university in America.

00:22:17.000 We saw what's going on over the last couple weeks.

00:22:20.000 The University of Pennsylvania president has now stepped down.

00:22:24.000 That's my alma mater. They've been leading the charge in woke BS, with Leah Thomas pushing that, leading the charge of men in women's sports.

00:22:34.000 But now we're learning that The president of Harvard, Claudine Gay, was caught up in a plagiarism scandal stemming from her, you know, PhD work.

00:22:44.000 Can you lay out what we're seeing in academia right now?

00:22:47.000 Because it seems like, you know, if you become the president of Harvard, at any other time you would say, you have all these qualifications.

00:22:52.000 But it turns out, like, she's not written a book.

00:22:56.000 She's only taken part in a handful of academic studies.

00:22:59.000 It seems like she's plagiarized some of those.

00:23:03.000 How do you become the president of Harvard without actually having seemingly any actual academic credentials?

00:23:12.000 I mean, I get that she, I believe she's gay, you know, and she's black, but like, is that enough these days?

00:23:21.000 Seems like that would be a problem.

00:23:24.000 What's going on? Well, being both gay and black is a tremendous credential in academia these days, and it's kind of ironic because my understanding is her name is actually gay, and she's also a gay black woman.

00:23:39.000 It's like, if this were a South Park episode, you know, you could hardly...

00:23:43.000 They're so coming with this one.

00:23:45.000 This one has to be, you know, this has got to be on their radar at this point, and they haven't missed much lately.

00:23:51.000 Yeah, I mean, it's the whole thing is like on one hand is hilarious.

00:23:55.000 On the other hand, it's just very sad because, you know, American academic excellence, the fact that America possesses the top universities in the world has always been, you know, one of its major comparative advantages and something that we could rightfully be proud of.

00:24:12.000 And so we're just seeing another example recently with This unfortunate anti-Semitism issue that you see across the bureaucracies and of course in the student populations as well.

00:24:25.000 I mean, let's not forget that the anti-Semitism you see or tolerance for anti-Semitism at the bureaucracies in the higher level is basically an appeasement strategy for the more radicalized student populations and student groups.

00:24:40.000 That's my understanding.

00:24:42.000 Someone like Professor Gay, I mean, I'm sure that she's, you know, left-wing in orientation, but these university presidents understand they have a very fine line to walk on because, on the one hand, they don't want to do something like, you know, end up like UPenn where they have to resign.

00:25:00.000 Yeah. But also they don't want to say something that leads to weeks and weeks of riots and protests and sit-ins and so forth.

00:25:08.000 So part of it is just the environment that's allowed to develop and metastasize within the universities that has led to such a disastrous thing.

00:25:18.000 but this goes so far beyond anti-Semitism, which is the recent boiling point and has

00:25:24.000 gained the attention of some people like Bill Ackman, who in other contexts wouldn't necessarily

00:25:31.000 be too concerned about expressions of wokeness at the university. So it's good that people like

00:25:37.000 that are now at least attentive to the wider issue, and I hope they become more so. But

00:25:43.000 the political radicalization of the university is something that's been going back since the 60s,

00:25:49.000 and we're really seeing the fruits of that in such a disastrous way.

00:25:54.000 And as for the plagiarism issue, like it is funny, you know, and I think this is not unique to Professor Gay or Dr.

00:26:05.000 Gay. This is a rampant issue.

00:26:08.000 And there's talk going around on Twitter.

00:26:11.000 I think it's valid that if AI tools were kind of retroactively applied, we'd see so many plagiarism scandals.

00:26:19.000 I almost think a greater scandal than the plagiarism is simply that this woman was operating in a fake discipline to begin with.

00:26:27.000 And you see in the sense of so many of these...

00:26:30.000 You know, affirmative action.

00:26:33.000 You look at their CV, and literally everything in it is about some race doctrine.

00:26:39.000 They've created fake disciplines to accommodate people like this because they can't succeed and contribute effectively.

00:26:48.000 In other disciplines, just simply by virtue of scholarship.

00:26:51.000 So they create these fake identity-based disciplines.

00:26:55.000 So to me, that's the greater scandal than plagiarizing within an already fake and ridiculous Ridiculous discipline.

00:27:05.000 So there's so many factors just coming to the fore that have been in the works for a long time, all the way up to the bureaucratization.

00:27:15.000 The DEI administrators have surpassed faculty at most public universities now.

00:27:22.000 Yeah, well, that's what I mean.

00:27:23.000 I saw that just today.

00:27:26.000 I think it was 500 Harvard faculty signed a letter in support of the Harvard president.

00:27:34.000 And again, so wait a minute.

00:27:35.000 You don't have to have credentials.

00:27:37.000 You check off some diversity.

00:27:38.000 You're perhaps one of the bigger beneficiaries of DEI policy, if these things are true, certainly.

00:27:43.000 You're right about, yes, they have a PhD in underwater basket weaving, therefore you must respect them, because what do you know, peasants?

00:27:52.000 You're a mechanic, so you actually probably have a far greater skill set, but they got their doctoral thesis in underwater basket weaving, and therefore they're a doctor.

00:28:03.000 You must call them that, right?

00:28:04.000 Dr. Jill, all of these sort of things.

00:28:08.000 But is there a realignment underway, or...

00:28:10.000 Or is it even possible at this point if 500 people at Harvard are saying, no, we don't care about any of these things.

00:28:17.000 We stand in solidarity with her.

00:28:19.000 You know, does it matter?

00:28:21.000 I love what Bill Ackman's doing.

00:28:22.000 And for those who don't know, Bill Ackman is a New York hedge fund billionaire.

00:28:26.000 He's a major Democrat donor.

00:28:29.000 I noticed he actually followed me on Twitter, maybe because I've been talking about some of these things for a while.

00:28:33.000 I didn't see that in my bingo card.

00:28:36.000 But, you know, Penn seemed to have made movement because a $100 million pledge disappeared.

00:28:43.000 So, you know, money still talks.

00:28:45.000 But does that matter to the 500 people that are signing on in support of someone that seems to have no business there?

00:28:52.000 And again, maybe I'm wrong, but this reporting seems to be fairly accurate.

00:28:56.000 You're right. She doesn't have a degree in nuclear physics.

00:29:00.000 This is one of those sort of, like, Let's make up a concentration to say that we're the expert and we have a PhD, amongst other things, but it doesn't actually generate or create any real value other than to perpetuate the nonsense of the DEI cycle.

00:29:18.000 The DEI people love DEI because it's guaranteed employment.

00:29:21.000 They find problems that don't really exist because only they can solve them.

00:29:26.000 The donors are now saying they've had enough, but Is anything going to really happen in the long run, or is academia too far taken over?

00:29:35.000 You know, that's a great question.

00:29:37.000 And yes, you know, your basket-weaving examples, I mean, that gives us a sense of the plagiarism.

00:29:41.000 Like, how dare you plagiarize your basket-weaving PhD?

00:29:45.000 Didn't you know that somebody else made the same basket, and now you're making the same basket?

00:29:50.000 No, but Darren, I did it underwater, so it's different.

00:29:53.000 It's a valuable contribution to society.

00:29:55.000 Right, exactly.

00:29:57.000 But, you know, the underlying question that you pose is really critical, and it's hard to answer because things can go in a number of ways.

00:30:04.000 I think it is fair to say that the donor influence is not negligible.

00:30:11.000 I mean, we've seen the fruits of that in the recent resignation at Penn, and there could be follow-up issues At MIT and Harvard.

00:30:19.000 We'll see how that plays out.

00:30:21.000 But there's certainly real leverage that has been brought to bear that has not, unfortunately, I would say, in previous cases, been brought to bear when it comes to Just vicious and general anti-white indoctrination within the universities, which is also a broader issue.

00:30:40.000 And it's the issue that frankly underlines the anti-Semitism.

00:30:44.000 The anti-Semitism is acceptable because anti-white racism is acceptable.

00:30:51.000 And within the sort of broader dynamic of, say, the Israel-Palestine situation, the Israeli Jews are considered to be white within that paradigm as opposed to the colonially impressed, oppressed Palestinian people.

00:31:07.000 That's precisely why the framework plays out the way it does.

00:31:11.000 So I think to the extent that people have only taken an interest now because it involves anti-Semitism or think that somehow that can be I think that some people are starting to realize that that is unrealistic.

00:31:29.000 But I think that's going to be a very tempting compromise because these donors do have leverage.

00:31:36.000 But as I mentioned, Yeah.

00:31:43.000 Yeah. And somewhat attractive short-term compromise would be, okay, we are going to incorporate antisemitism issues into the broader DEI framework.

00:32:09.000 Yeah, but we're not going to address sort of the anti-white side of that, which still seems to be okay.

00:32:14.000 I mean, I was looking, it was another, I think it was another Ivy or, you know, certainly top sort of 20 university.

00:32:20.000 I was looking at, you know, if you took, basically the statistics were crazy.

00:32:24.000 Like if you, you took the same student, you got rid of skin color.

00:32:27.000 And you took it, if you were white, you had like a 30% chance of getting in, but with the exact same credentials, if you checked off one of the other, white and Asian actually, Asian was actually discriminated more against than even white, but only, you know, only a couple of points.

00:32:42.000 But if you took that same person and put any other demographic, Hispanic had a significantly, you know, greater chance.

00:32:48.000 And then if you were African American, beyond that, it was like, you had like a 96% chance of getting in.

00:32:53.000 But if you were a white or Asian with the exact same credentials, You were at like 36% acceptance rates.

00:33:00.000 It was mind-boggling, so you're right.

00:33:02.000 I mean, is that going to be the compromise?

00:33:04.000 You'd say, okay, we'll allow Jews to come into this fold because we're going to keep discriminating against everything else, and it's a small enough thing that maybe it doesn't matter.

00:33:14.000 Right. And I think that's the easy solution.

00:33:18.000 And I can imagine it being attractive to some donors whose particular focus is the antisemitism issue.

00:33:28.000 But I think it's a failed course because, like I said, the whole reason that the antisemitism thing is acceptable is that it exists within the broader framework In which anti-white discrimination and racism is acceptable, and it just happens to be that within the Israel-Palestine conflict, the Jews are considered white, and therefore they're the bad guys in this framework.

00:33:55.000 So that's the difficult aspect of your question, is there is a short-term compromise, and people are very attracted to short-term Well, they're trying to get out from under fire, right?

00:34:08.000 And that's the reality, right?

00:34:10.000 We keep talking about Harvard, Penn, MIT, just because they were the ones that were, whether they were sort of, you know, forced into testimony, but they're the ones that failed miserably under question answering some pretty basic stuff.

00:34:22.000 I mean, it's literally hard to believe.

00:34:24.000 I guess they had Wilmer Hale, like, you know, Or Snow, Wilmer, whatever it was, one of the big law firms giving them crisis management.

00:34:31.000 And I mean, they do that knowing what's coming, and they still fail so miserably.

00:34:35.000 But the problem is that...

00:34:37.000 Their feelings and what they said out loud is not just relegated to those three schools.

00:34:44.000 It's probably across virtually 100% of academia, with maybe the exception of Liberty University and Hillsdale College.

00:34:54.000 You carve those out, and it's probably just common academic thought these days.

00:35:00.000 There's no diversity of thought in these institutions.

00:35:03.000 They only want diversity in color, not in thought.

00:35:07.000 And so, you know, the problem is definitely broader.

00:35:13.000 Absolutely. And, you know, I think it's important to be clear about, you know, what the context was in this congressional testimony that caused this controversy.

00:35:23.000 You know, people on the one hand, you know, the one version of the controversy is Oh, these university officials refuse to, say, condemn these hypothetical incidents of calls for genocide of Jews and so forth, whether that violates the speech codes at the universities.

00:35:43.000 Now, it would be one thing, though, and I think Jeb Rubenfeld actually had, I saw a clip of his that I think expressed this point very well.

00:35:52.000 It would be one thing if there were an Actually, consistently applied principle defense of free speech in the sense that, look, whatever speech is protected by the First Amendment, that speech is going to be protected on university grounds.

00:36:11.000 to the extent that calls even for something as horrific as genocide, if it's not a harassment,

00:36:17.000 or if it's not an actual call to immediate violence, if that's protected by the First Amendment,

00:36:23.000 it's protected on campus, and that applies to any type of speech. If that were the actual posture,

00:36:28.000 it would be one thing. But obviously, we know that's not the case, because whenever somebody,

00:36:34.000 even as mild as Charles Murray wants to give a speech at one of these universities,

00:36:41.000 all hell breaks loose.

00:36:43.000 Well, it's worse than that, right?

00:36:45.000 Like, I mean, you know, yes, we got to be clear.

00:36:47.000 The recovery, the attempted recovery was about free speech, but the issue was never about free speech, right?

00:36:53.000 When Elise Stefanik questioned her, you know, Congresswoman from New York questioned it, it was about, does it violate their code of conduct?

00:37:00.000 Not free speech, right?

00:37:02.000 Because, and by the way, let's also not pretend it was ever about free speech, because I believe Harvard was ranked literally like the place that you could least express freedom of speech.

00:37:13.000 These are the same people who led the charge for, you know, words are violence, and I have a feeling if it was me, even 25 years ago at Penn, okay, uh, Saying, you know, calling for even hypothetically the genocide of the trans community before people lost their minds, then or today. If it was me and like my frat boy buddies from the lacrosse team, if we said that today, we'd be out...

00:37:39.000 Like that. There would be no ambiguity.

00:37:43.000 There would be no chance for congressional testimony.

00:37:46.000 We would get no trial.

00:37:48.000 We would be thrown out on our asses.

00:37:51.000 If this was about anyone else other than, again, Jews, likely to your point, because they are also considered white and therefore it's okay to discriminate against them, if it was about any other of their favorite protected classes or sort of check marks, You would not be having this conversation because the people guilty of it would not have even had a chance before they were thrown out on their asses.

00:38:18.000 Absolutely. And that's the thing.

00:38:19.000 This is very clearly not an issue of some kind of brave and principled defense of free speech, saying, okay, the boundaries of speech encamp is the First Amendment, and that sort of informs their answer to these congressional inquiries about genocide and so forth.

00:38:40.000 It's not that at all.

00:38:41.000 It's just so plainly Yeah, I think.

00:39:06.000 Also are allowed to say what they want.

00:39:08.000 They're allowed to invite speakers without interruption.

00:39:11.000 That would be a much better model.

00:39:14.000 I'm 100% final.

00:39:15.000 I've been fighting for that, but that's not the way it works, right?

00:39:18.000 Everything's a problem. The work I've done with Michael Seifert in Public Square, literally trying to create an alternate economy.

00:39:25.000 How dare they? I was like, excuse me, you've been canceling anyone on the right forever.

00:39:29.000 Now that we simply don't want to give our hard-earned dollars to a woke company that's been funding left-wing causes and hates your guts and would put us in the gulags, like, wait, now it's an extreme concept.

00:39:41.000 And that's just voting with your wallet.

00:39:43.000 It's whether we talk about the sponsors of this show or, you know, build your own.

00:39:46.000 You don't like it? Build your own.

00:39:48.000 Okay, so we do. You know, we built Public Square, and now it's a radical platform for people.

00:39:52.000 I was like, wait a minute, you guys have been doing this to us in the Public Square forever.

00:39:57.000 Now we simply say, hey, we're going to play the same game as you, and now you don't like it.

00:40:02.000 Now they have a serious problem, and that's when they start all of a sudden magically talking about nuance.

00:40:08.000 When they're very clear, they want nothing to do with that kind of nuance, as long as they've been able to weaponize it to their gain.

00:40:15.000 Yes. No, that's very accurate.

00:40:18.000 And, you know, another question looming over this is, you know, we've identified these elite universities are a major component of American soft power.

00:40:28.000 I think to such a degree that I have had sort of war game like conversations with people as to

00:40:35.000 what were the various metrics and inflection points that would define whether China has in

00:40:42.000 a meaningful respect surpassed the United States, not just in.

00:40:46.000 Yeah. That would be a major metric to say, okay, US is left in the dust.

00:41:02.000 These universities are very important.

00:41:05.000 We see all this woke nonsense, but there's also real stuff going on.

00:41:10.000 Harvard, for better or worse, and MIT, they have first picked of the most talented people in the world.

00:41:18.000 They can get away with a lot of this nonsense because of that.

00:41:22.000 There's a question of how sustainable is this?

00:41:25.000 How far can they push it?

00:41:27.000 China, to continue with the China example, the Chinese are, I think, lucky us that this is the case.

00:41:37.000 The Chinese are not as...

00:41:41.000 Enterprising and creative as to how to exploit this issue.

00:41:46.000 I think if the Chinese were to say, OK, we're dedicating hundreds of billions of dollars to creating universities that will be a safe haven for otherwise castaway academics, highly talented academics.

00:42:01.000 So instead of going to Harvard and getting canceled and or if you're a really talented white guy who got denied because of the DEI policies, Come to the Chinese University.

00:42:10.000 We'll give you a full scholarship and this or that.

00:42:13.000 If they really implemented a serious long-term plan along those lines, it could be very bad for us.

00:42:18.000 And we're already at the stage where we're seeing the fruits of this sort of DEI-inflected culture.

00:42:26.000 America canceled.

00:42:28.000 This is a while ago, 10 years ago, not too long ago.

00:42:32.000 America canceled its most distinguished living scientist, James Watson, who discovered the structure of DNA. We literally canceled him.

00:42:40.000 He was banned from his own laboratory.

00:42:42.000 In fact, he was beaten down to such a state of impecuniousness that he had to auction off his Nobel Prize.

00:42:50.000 And it was actually a Russian who took such pity on him, some Russian oligarch, who bought his Nobel Prize and gave it back to him.

00:42:59.000 It's such a sad story of what America has done, but it's symbolic and it indicates this really dangerous direction we've gone in that's hostile to merit and free expression.

00:43:11.000 And yes, we still have a lot of comparative advantages, but those don't last forever if we continue along this trajectory.

00:43:17.000 Yeah, Fauci is the leader of medicine in America.

00:43:20.000 Now, he's clearly, you know, at best, a journeyman scientist.

00:43:23.000 He was just better at being a bureaucrat.

00:43:26.000 He was better at snaking and screwing someone else who maybe came up with something else.

00:43:30.000 Or he pulled their funding so that they could never surpass whatever he was doing.

00:43:35.000 It was, you know, no more obvious example than Wuhan lab leak theory.

00:43:39.000 Like, of course it came from the lab that studies the virus and questioned it, you know.

00:43:42.000 But if you said that as an academic...

00:43:44.000 You know, your funding was pulled, your research grants were gone, and therefore he'd get to control the narrative.

00:43:49.000 He was probably always at best average.

00:43:53.000 Honestly, at best average.

00:43:55.000 Probably less than that.

00:43:56.000 But if you played the game, you know how to work the cameras, you know how to work a soundbite, and you're willing to screw other talent to maintain that hegemony at the top, it wouldn't matter.

00:44:08.000 And so we're definitely screwing ourselves in the process because of these things, and I think he's the perfect example of that.

00:44:15.000 Absolutely. Absolutely.

00:44:16.000 And sadly, he's not the only example by any means, but he is a particularly aggravating example to be sure.

00:44:24.000 So you've obviously been at the top of a lot of other things with Revolver News.

00:44:28.000 You've been at really the center uncovering the January 6th, what I call the Fed-surrection, right?

00:44:35.000 I mean, it's been a while since you were on, but man, the sound bites I hear every week, you know, Well, the FBI, we don't want to release the videos because it would show way too many of our officers, like, in the crowd.

00:44:49.000 I'm like, wait a minute, so you're there? You're there.

00:44:52.000 We're to believe you weren't instigating, but you also did nothing to prevent anything from happening.

00:44:57.000 I mean, it's lunacy.

00:45:00.000 It's absolute lunacy.

00:45:02.000 You're lying before Congress.

00:45:04.000 Could you give us some of the latest updates of what you've uncovered?

00:45:08.000 And what are some of the missing puzzle pieces?

00:45:11.000 We're getting it.

00:45:12.000 It's so flagrant now.

00:45:14.000 We understand why they never wanted the video out, because...

00:45:18.000 The exculpatory evidence would be useful to the prisoners who've been denied due process, but it would also show what everyone's been saying.

00:45:25.000 Yet another conspiracy theory turned out to be 100% true because it was always the most plausible.

00:45:31.000 They've always been the bad actors, but we just can't actually show it.

00:45:36.000 Can you tell us what's been going on there?

00:45:39.000 Absolutely. You know, this is one of the first major pieces that we published on this Fed's erection.

00:45:47.000 By now, it was years ago.

00:45:49.000 But we opened up the piece with an exchange between Senator Klobuchar and Christopher Wray.

00:45:56.000 In which Klobuchar asks, right, she's kind of a rhetorical type question.

00:46:02.000 She says, you know, don't you guys just kick yourselves that you didn't have any informants in place and you weren't able to stop it.

00:46:12.000 Christopher Wray answers in a very kind of lawyer-like way to seem like he's accepting the premise of her question, that they didn't have any.

00:46:21.000 But he says, look, you can be darn tootin' though.

00:46:25.000 We would wish we had people in there.

00:46:27.000 We wish we could have stopped this and so forth.

00:46:30.000 But as you point out, Through the years now, we've learned time and time again, going all the way back to a years-long report from the New York Times acknowledging that just in the one Proud Boys organization, the Militia Group, There was extensive infiltration and that, in fact, there were informants going into the Capitol and informing to the FBI in real time as to what was going on.

00:47:00.000 There's another major case that I believe we've Talked about the last time I was here, the case of Jeremy Brown, who had a misdemeanor trespassing charge that the aggressive DOJ was able to transform into a felony charge for which he's facing seven years.

00:47:18.000 And they only added on that stuff Over a year later, what did he do to aggravate them so much?

00:47:27.000 He published footage he had of Joint Terrorism Task Force agents trying to recruit him months before January 6th.

00:47:38.000 So they clearly knew they were trying to recruit him to inform on the Oath Keepers month before, and it was clear from the context of the conversation, they knew something was going down.

00:47:49.000 Now we're getting all sorts of information about all sorts of agencies, not just the FBI, but the DHS, but military organizations and so forth, local police organizations.

00:48:04.000 They've heard all of this chatter from all of these groups about things going on in January 6th.

00:48:10.000 We reported on the Hippies for Trump bus.

00:48:13.000 There was a bus stop the day before January 6th, on the 5th, with explosives and other material.

00:48:20.000 And one of the people on that bus was an active participant in January 6th.

00:48:26.000 They weren't Detained, clearly, because he was at January 6th.

00:48:31.000 And even when things like that happened, this was right by the Department of Justice building on the day before, Nancy Pelosi and her crew continued to deny Trump's repeated requests for additional security on that day.

00:48:47.000 So just all of these components that have been around for a long time for people paying attention are just getting reinforced and corroborated over and over and over again as new material comes to light, all adding up to a renewed sense of invigorated sense of confidence that this is indeed, it's not an insurrection, it's far worse than that, it's a fedsurrection.

00:49:10.000 And it's not simply that they knew about it and didn't do anything, which would be bad enough, but all evidence points to the role of critical provocateurs who enabled this otherwise rally to turn into a riot through certain critical actions.

00:49:31.000 So it's a fedsurrection, and I think it's important to understand the context that the regime Put so much stock in this.

00:49:40.000 The stakes are so high because the narrative of the domestic terror insurrection of MAGA people.

00:49:47.000 It was going to be the basis, the pretext for accelerating the weaponization of the national security state against us, the weaponization of the security apparatus against us.

00:50:00.000 So the stakes couldn't be higher for that.

00:50:03.000 And unfortunately, the truth has come out.

00:50:05.000 I'm proud to have played a part in that.

00:50:08.000 A big role, a big part of it.

00:50:09.000 And it has severely disrupted this narrative in which the regime has invested a tremendous amount of time and energy to shove their version of events down our throats every day for years.

00:50:24.000 And now the people just don't buy it.

00:50:26.000 So I get that, and I think the people watching this show don't buy it.

00:50:31.000 But honestly, I still see way too much silence from the Republicans.

00:50:35.000 Again, it's Wuhan lab theory.

00:50:36.000 There is no other plausible response, right?

00:50:41.000 It's the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.

00:50:45.000 Whatever disdain you have for federal law enforcement, that leadership, your government, it's not enough at this point.

00:50:52.000 And yet... And yet, I don't even see that many Republicans talking about it.

00:50:56.000 I mean, there's a couple.

00:50:58.000 There's a couple people who get it.

00:51:01.000 But, like, man, it's a tiny handful.

00:51:04.000 And when they're on, they're saying, oh, we couldn't possibly release the video of the FBI agents literally not just being there, but doing nothing.

00:51:13.000 And worse, instigating, pushing people in a crowd, getting them fired up, doing this, and then doing nothing.

00:51:18.000 Opening the door, but running with the narrative for two years that they somehow broke at the door.

00:51:23.000 It never ends.

00:51:24.000 And yet, there's not enough people on our side actually talking about what's going on.

00:51:29.000 This isn't conspiratorial anymore.

00:51:31.000 There's no other plausible response.

00:51:34.000 You know, these people pushing, literally, Darren, it's worse than 9-11.

00:51:39.000 Enter! Pearl Harbor, since we just had the anniversary of that a couple of days ago.

00:51:43.000 I mean, it's significantly worse than all of that.

00:51:45.000 I'm like, I don't know. The only person that was killed was Ashley Babbitt by someone who, in my opinion, clearly didn't know how to use a firearm and panicked, who had a long record of bad firearms handling and who probably wasn't qualified and all of these things.

00:51:59.000 You're not allowed to say that because they paraded him out there as a hero.

00:52:03.000 Like, that guy might as well have been awarded the...

00:52:06.000 It received the Congressional Medal of Honor, even though it's clear based on anything we've seen.

00:52:12.000 It's all been a big lie, but other than you, other than me, other than a couple people perhaps here on Rumble, no one's talking about it.

00:52:19.000 They're not even willing to have that conversation yet, which is scary because it means we're too far gone to actually get it back.

00:52:27.000 No, you make a really good point.

00:52:28.000 And this gets to an issue that I've experienced is there's, you know, there's something I call the playpen.

00:52:34.000 The playpen is the space of safe discourse, even kind of safe, partisan debate and criticism.

00:52:42.000 And I think overwhelmingly, most Republican elected officials, they want to stay in the playpen of safe issues.

00:52:50.000 And you know, That can involve some of those safe issues are also important.

00:52:55.000 Like I think, you know, attacking socialism, that's kind of a safe issue for an elected Republican, but it's also important.

00:53:02.000 And then it's also kind of the performative stuff of saying like, well, look at, you know, AOC's dress and this kind of stuff.

00:53:09.000 But then there's stepping outside of the playpen.

00:53:12.000 And the fedsurrection story has always existed outside of the playpen, because it, To address it involves stirring up the hornet's nest, and it gets to the complicated relationship that Republicans have with the security state.

00:53:34.000 And it's not an accident that most of the elected officials who have been brave enough to address this also happen to kind of be the MAGA coroner.

00:53:43.000 With some exceptions, like Thomas Massey, I wouldn't consider him a MAGA official, but to his credit, he's been at the forefront of pushing the Fed's direction stuff, pushing the Ray Epp stuff, pushing the pipe bomb stuff.

00:53:57.000 And so I commend him. What about simultaneously the 702 stuff that's coming up, right?

00:54:01.000 I mean, that was the apparatus by which all of this started.

00:54:06.000 And there's Republicans, well, no, we got to continue it.

00:54:09.000 We just got to let it roll. I'm like, wait a minute.

00:54:10.000 If you want to spy on Iran and our enemies, do whatever you want.

00:54:14.000 But when you leave every possible window open to do it on American citizens, after the total lack of goodwill that you should have with the American citizens based on the abuse of said power...

00:54:29.000 They're strangely quiet about that.

00:54:30.000 And I sort of link it all in there.

00:54:31.000 Like, wait a minute. How are you okay with continuing those things as is?

00:54:36.000 For seven years they were clearly weaponized.

00:54:38.000 It was probably weaponized way before that.

00:54:40.000 It was just Trump derangement syndrome that brought it all out because it was so ridiculous.

00:54:44.000 It was so abused that now everyone sees exactly what it is.

00:54:48.000 Doesn't that tie into it as well?

00:54:51.000 Absolutely. And, you know, it gets into the general question of the relationship between Republican Party, Republican elected officials, and the national security state, which is a complicated relationship.

00:55:03.000 I mean, so much of what we now recognize as the national security bureaucracy, including a host of NGOs, We're set up under the Reagan administration to prosecute the Cold War.

00:55:17.000 And so that, you know, the National Endowment for Democracy, you know, what all of these sort of democracy type groups

00:55:23.000 that are obsessed with Russia now, most of them were set up under Reagan's tenure

00:55:29.000 for Cold War purposes.

00:55:31.000 And then of course, there was Bush who further enhanced, dramatically enhanced the national security apparatus

00:55:38.000 to prosecute the war on terror.

00:55:40.000 Now, whatever one thinks of those two separate things, the third iteration that we're in now

00:55:46.000 is one in which all of those tools are being weaponized domestically against conservative,

00:55:51.000 but the relationships still remain.

00:55:54.000 And there's such a powerful overlap between sort of the never Trump

00:55:59.000 or never Trump adjacent elements of the party.

00:56:02.000 Cause let's face it, like the GOP has never fully come to terms with Donald Trump.

00:56:08.000 They sort of had to tolerate it because he's so popular.

00:56:13.000 Yeah, no, it's why they're giving a voice to Liz Cheney right now.

00:56:16.000 Trump's going to be a dictator.

00:56:17.000 I'm like, wait a minute. Like, if there's one person that's functioning as a dictator, it's the Democrats.

00:56:20.000 They're weaponized DOJ. They're trying to censor Americans.

00:56:24.000 They're trying to jail their political opponents.

00:56:26.000 They have jailed people who just don't agree with them, who are nonviolent dissidents.

00:56:30.000 Like, they're doing that.

00:56:32.000 And you mentioned sort of Bush, but, you know, Dick Cheney, arguably one of the biggest architects of that disaster and the Iraq War and all of these things, his daughter, they're giving...

00:56:44.000 A platform to.

00:56:45.000 The same people who really, really hated Dick Cheney.

00:56:47.000 His daughter's not that different.

00:56:48.000 If anything, she's maybe worse.

00:56:51.000 And they're giving her a platform to say that Trump's a dictator when like...

00:56:56.000 Wait a minute. Is anyone not putting this connection together?

00:56:59.000 I mean, it's so ridiculous, and yet...

00:57:01.000 But you're right. It doesn't matter because they've never accepted that.

00:57:05.000 They sort of want to get through the Trump years, whether it's another four years.

00:57:08.000 For them, I imagine, preferably sooner.

00:57:11.000 And they can get back to business as usual.

00:57:13.000 They can lose. They can give up our country.

00:57:15.000 Eventually we'll be a communist state because that's what the Democratic Party is today.

00:57:19.000 They're not Democrats. They're Marxists.

00:57:21.000 they're worse and they're not even hiding that anymore.

00:57:26.000 And yet they're willing to go along with that because they'll get a board seat at Raytheon,

00:57:29.000 they'll have a six figure retirement that they don't really deserve

00:57:32.000 because they're not really competent and haven't actually accomplished anything.

00:57:35.000 But they're in power and they can do that.

00:57:37.000 They'll send our kids to die in a war so they can get a couple extra more bucks

00:57:41.000 as part of that board seat package retirement plan.

00:57:44.000 It's not their kids that are gonna be dying, it's yours.

00:57:47.000 Exactly, and look, you mentioned Raytheon and Boeing can go into that.

00:57:52.000 And of course, you can't say Boeing without thinking of Nikki Haley.

00:57:56.000 Of course. The new favorite child of the establishment, yes.

00:58:02.000 The 737 MAX candidate.

00:58:04.000 I don't know if that corresponds to you.

00:58:05.000 But it might as well.

00:58:08.000 But her whole biography, perfectly instantiated, this is what they wanted.

00:58:13.000 This is what the evil, horrible Trump robbed them of because Nikki Haley was supposed to be This story, Nikki Haley was supposed to be the future.

00:58:25.000 It was her turn all of a sudden.

00:58:27.000 They decide that, not the voter.

00:58:29.000 If it hadn't been for Trump, they're thinking, oh, Nikki Haley would be it.

00:58:34.000 And then they say, okay, we have to make some concessions to Trump just by virtue of his sheer popularity.

00:58:43.000 So even though we really love Nikki Haley, we have to make some concessions.

00:58:47.000 So let's do this thing called we'll tell...

00:58:50.000 We'll tell the plebs, we'll tell these uninformed plebs, we'll tell them it's still Trumpism, but just without Trump.

00:58:57.000 And we'll get DeSantis and we'll give him the script.

00:59:01.000 And then, you know, we'll have to hold our nose a little bit because some of the things he says will be, you know, too much for us.

00:59:08.000 But that's the best we can get, of course.

00:59:10.000 But don't worry, we got a billion dollars that will change his mind in three days as soon as it's been weaponized against the MAGA, you know, actually...

00:59:16.000 America First Peoples.

00:59:18.000 But you mentioned Boeing.

00:59:20.000 You mentioned the 737s.

00:59:23.000 Revolver News, your agency, also did a deep dive, and this one's truly scary, into the worsening

00:59:29.000 aviation safety crisis. I mean, there's been a huge spike in near collision at airports around

00:59:37.000 the country. It's these kinds of stories that clearly aren't being covered. What's going on

00:59:43.000 there? I imagine it's DEI strikes again, and then some. We've seen it at the airlines. We're seeing

00:59:50.000 it with air traffic control. And, you know, I don't know. I don't care if my pilot is green,

00:59:56.000 if they're purple, if they're blue. If they're the best pilot, that's who I want in charge

01:00:02.000 of the stick if something goes wrong when I'm at 36,000 feet.

01:00:06.000 And given that I do, you know, a couple hundred thousand miles a year in travel, you know, this is something that, you know, the odds are I run into before the average traveler.

01:00:16.000 What is going on in aviation and just how bad is it?

01:00:20.000 This is a really important story.

01:00:22.000 One of our major pieces in the past several months is called Crash Landing.

01:00:28.000 And as you say, it does a deep dive into a very, very disturbing development within the aviation industry in the United States, particularly within the air traffic control system.

01:00:41.000 And the interesting thing about that is, you know, most of these problems affecting the country, you could say, okay, well, the 1% or whatever you want to call it, they can get out of these problems.

01:00:53.000 They, you know, public transportation is destroyed in the United States.

01:00:57.000 Well, you know, people can just have their own private cars and such.

01:01:02.000 The airlines are, you know, gone to crap.

01:01:05.000 Oh, you can just fly private and this sort of thing.

01:01:07.000 But the interesting thing about this issue Nobody can get out of it because even if you're flying a private, you're still beholden to the decisions of air traffic controllers.

01:01:19.000 As a licensed pilot myself, if they run you into a pattern that's full, it's a problem.

01:01:25.000 If they have you land on a runway that's not clear because they didn't think or can't multitask or whatever, that is a high-stress job.

01:01:32.000 That is not a job that...

01:01:35.000 You know, to give to, you know, the lowest bidder or the lowest IQ individual.

01:01:39.000 That's not how it works.

01:01:41.000 I mean, nor should it be, but it doesn't seem to matter.

01:01:44.000 Like, it's not DEI, you know, hey, we can talk about academia, I guess, you know, whatever.

01:01:50.000 It's going to affect our children and their learning, but like, you know, people aren't going to run into a wall going 500 miles an hour.

01:01:56.000 Right. No, I mean, the reason I mentioned that this affects everybody, including, you know, the very wealthy flying private, is that, you know, there's this theory that I think in some context is partially true that, you know, the DEI thing is kind of a let them eat cake type issue.

01:02:13.000 Okay, we'll let We'll let the lower classes suffer the negative effects of the DI, but the people with money and connections can kind of cordon themselves off from most of the negative consequences.

01:02:27.000 And so there's an inference from that that there's not really genuine belief behind the madness.

01:02:33.000 And again, I think there's some partial truth to that.

01:02:35.000 But the fact that we've allowed The DEI disaster to erode the basic standards behind air traffic control and therefore affect everyone's safety, including the people flying private, including all these, you know, elites and so forth, shows just how insane it's gotten because you'd think If it were more of this kind of cynical approach to things, you say, OK, well, we'll save the DEI stuff maybe for the airline commercials.

01:03:06.000 We'll save it maybe for the basket weaving courses.

01:03:09.000 But when it comes to the maintenance of critical infrastructure, like having airplanes not collide into each other, that's a special exception we'll make and just higher on the basis of merit.

01:03:21.000 But no. Obama actually is responsible for a complete overhaul in the vetting and hiring standards applicable to air traffic controllers, such that they used to have a pure merit-based sort of SAT system.

01:03:35.000 They revolutionized it in order to implement what they call bio-questionnaires, which is just this really dumb method of ensuring that you test nothing.

01:03:47.000 And there have been PhDs who have proven the remarkable thesis that the less substantive things you actually test, the fewer, the less disparate impact you have racially.

01:04:01.000 So when you get to the point where the tests actually test nothing— So what are some of these diversity initiatives?

01:04:05.000 I mean, I got to hear about, like, what it— I read about that Obama test.

01:04:10.000 I don't know enough about the details, but it was literally like, if you dropped out of school, like— You got more points.

01:04:16.000 Like, crazy.

01:04:18.000 Like, absolutely insane.

01:04:20.000 Like, again, you know, everyone wants those people to have a job, but maybe not guiding aircraft moving through space at 500 miles an hour, you know, in close proximity to one another.

01:04:32.000 Right. No, I mean, you're thinking, you know, at second thought, maybe we should let them into, you know, Disney World, because at least they're not in the air traffic industry.

01:04:41.000 Maybe they can do less damage, you know, playing Mickey Mouse or something like that.

01:04:47.000 But no, it's true.

01:04:48.000 And this story is very long.

01:04:50.000 It's very involved. We talked to many people within the air traffic control community, current and retired.

01:04:56.000 We talked to spoke people.

01:04:58.000 And the bottom line here is there's the Obama era overhaul that completely transformed the vetting mechanisms

01:05:06.000 for employment away from merit into diversity hiring.

01:05:10.000 This has had a tremendous impact on the quality of air traffic controllers,

01:05:15.000 but then there's been also a dramatic hit in quantity as a result of their COVID era policies,

01:05:22.000 including by inference, the vaccine mandates, which pilots did not like.

01:05:27.000 And there was a dramatic acceleration of retirements in the COVID, but also a hiring freeze as a result of COVID.

01:05:36.000 So one of our first major studies in Revolver was a cost benefit of analysis using the metric life years

01:05:44.000 of the COVID lockdowns.

01:05:46.000 And it showed that there's actually an order of magnitude worse in terms of loss of life years under the lockdown policies of Fauci.

01:05:55.000 But in that, we didn't even take into account the possibility of things like COVID hiring freezes could ultimately result in the next major aviation disaster.

01:06:05.000 And the numbers behind these are quite dramatic.

01:06:08.000 In the past 10 years, there's been a doubling of what they call near runway incursions of two airplanes nearly colliding into each other in the runway.

01:06:19.000 And there's been a similar increase of near mid-air collisions.

01:06:23.000 And so just given the numbers, it's only a matter of time.

01:06:26.000 And in fact, the New York Times to its credit has taken an interest in this issue and in

01:06:31.000 particular one near miss situation in the Austin airport, which is had particularly

01:06:38.000 acute feeling.

01:06:39.000 That's going to have a woker problem than somewhere like, you know, you know, somewhere

01:06:43.000 in Oklahoma.

01:06:45.000 One would one would think, yes.

01:06:46.000 But the thing is, there's this one air traffic controller.

01:06:49.000 And these aren't like, you know, it is a complicated job, but this guy made a very simple, egregious error that came within milliseconds of costing hundreds of people their lives.

01:07:02.000 And guess what? He's still working.

01:07:07.000 He's still working. I mean, it's really, and you can guess, I'll just say it's a likely diversity hire based on the profile.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, and that's the reality. I mean, I imagine if you track down the statistics and the increase, the 50% up or the doubling of these incidents, it's not from the people who've been there for 25 years, who are pilots themselves, who have been doing it and who were hired under a merit-based system.

01:07:31.000 And just one really funny anecdote from a former spokesperson who has given us the party line, which is frankly ridiculous across all dimensions.

01:07:40.000 But the funniest thing he said was because we were talking to air traffic controllers like, oh, the quality is, you know, crap.

01:07:46.000 Everything's, you know, really going downhill here.

01:07:49.000 So we asked the former spokesperson and his answer is, no, actually, these new cohorts we're hiring are more qualified because they grew up Playing more sophisticated video games.

01:08:02.000 I'm not making that up.

01:08:06.000 Nothing surprises me anymore, so it doesn't matter.

01:08:12.000 Listen, the world has lost its mind.

01:08:15.000 Are you seeing any broader shifts away from wokeism in major institutions?

01:08:21.000 Maybe the best example is Elon Musk taking direct aim at media matters.

01:08:27.000 They're not an organization that's checking advertisers.

01:08:30.000 No, they've designed to weaponize to hurt their political foes with advertiser boycotts.

01:08:36.000 I mean, do you see any parallels between the ethos of the America First movement and what Elon Musk is doing at X? Absolutely.

01:08:47.000 There are not only parallels, but there are also, I think, really powerful complementarities because I think Elon shows what can get done within the private sector.

01:08:57.000 There are inherent encumbrances that come with trying to make change through Elon.

01:09:02.000 And Trump experienced that more than anyone, that these bureaucracies are viciously resistant to any type of change.

01:09:13.000 And so that's its own sort of ballgame, is trying to change things from within government.

01:09:18.000 Elon took a very different approach.

01:09:20.000 One approach would be through government trying to restore free speech on the internet.

01:09:25.000 Elon took the kind of Hostile takeover approach to Twitter, which I think has not been perfect, but it's been a major positive.

01:09:35.000 So I think next to Trump, Elon's sort of political awakening, his acting upon that awakening and his being one of the very rare billionaires, your father being the other one, It's very rare.

01:09:48.000 That's the one thing that's so frustrating to a lot of people to see.

01:09:52.000 Just you think the more money you have, the more bold you are.

01:09:55.000 But with most people, the more money they have, the more they have to lose.

01:09:59.000 And why rock the system when you're already doing very well?

01:10:03.000 So there's actually a reluctance to shake things up because very few people, even with a lot of money, aspire to a glory Oh, and they're They're trying to take them out like they did Trump.

01:10:35.000 I mean, there's no question, right?

01:10:36.000 You got all of corporate weaponizing.

01:10:37.000 You see the advertisers still pulling it right now.

01:10:40.000 They're more than happy to support people who are doing pedophile stuff, and that doesn't really matter.

01:10:46.000 But Elon Musk is rocking the boat.

01:10:47.000 I always said it with my father. I mean, that's why we all have to sort of become unafraid.

01:10:51.000 It's why I like doing this and I'm always like, hey, like, share, subscribe, this stuff

01:10:55.000 so that people see it outside of the box.

01:10:58.000 Because if we all go forward with this mentality, understanding what's going on, it's harder to cancel.

01:11:03.000 But whether you're Trump as president, the most powerful man in the world, there's no doubt,

01:11:07.000 these people can still cancel you.

01:11:09.000 They can still cancel Elon Musk.

01:11:11.000 He was the richest man in the world, I guess, until recently and all of this stuff.

01:11:14.000 And they're going to try.

01:11:15.000 We need to sort of band together to make sure that doesn't happen.

01:11:18.000 You can't do that with one, two, three, 12, 20 powerful people.

01:11:24.000 You need 150 million Americans also getting behind them to prevent it from happening, to get that message out there,

01:11:32.000 to make sure that people are aware and that they see it.

01:11:35.000 Otherwise, they'll keep taking those people out.

01:11:37.000 They'll keep taking out the Trumps of the world.

01:11:39.000 They'll keep trying to take out the Elons of the world, which will create even more incentive for no one else to ever attempt to rock the boat.

01:11:45.000 And that's when we get into apathy and a serious problem.

01:11:50.000 Absolutely. Absolutely.

01:11:52.000 And there's no avoiding, you know, people think I'll step in there and I'll avoid the pain.

01:11:56.000 I can find some creative way.

01:11:58.000 If you step into the arena, you will face what I call the pain box.

01:12:03.000 And, you know, most people are not psychologically constituted to face.

01:12:08.000 I think one of, you know, your father's remarkable in many respects, but I think one of the maybe most unusual traits he has is this just...

01:12:17.000 It's superhuman ability to withstand stress coming from all sides as though it's nothing.

01:12:25.000 It's really amazing.

01:12:26.000 And the reality is that you can't really teach that.

01:12:30.000 You have to be constituted in that way.

01:12:31.000 But you don't need an outlier that extreme to play some part in it.

01:12:36.000 And I think ultimately, that's what gives things meaning.

01:12:40.000 I think Elon understands that.

01:12:42.000 Yes, you can be very wealthy, but there are other things.

01:12:46.000 There are higher levels to that, the levels of glory, the levels of fighting for civilization, not just on Earth, but Elon's thinking in galactic terms.

01:12:58.000 Unless we figure out the DEI question here, we have no chance of getting to Mars.

01:13:04.000 All of these things are very connected.

01:13:08.000 It's such a shame.

01:13:10.000 What a waste.

01:13:11.000 The whole diversity program has been.

01:13:15.000 If we had dedicated since in the past half century, the same amount of time, the same amount of resources, the same amount of just focus, On building civilization as we had, you know, trying to force diversity in every place.

01:13:33.000 It's remarkable to think where we could be.

01:13:35.000 Yeah, we'd probably be on Mars already.

01:13:37.000 Exactly. But we ain't getting there with, you know, DEI astronauts and third-rate physicists and, you know, bad mechanical engineers, and it's just not going to happen.

01:13:49.000 But, you know, but that's where we are today.

01:13:53.000 Right. And it's one of these weird things.

01:13:56.000 DEI is clearly driving things into the ground.

01:13:59.000 And I think a lot of the more sophisticated people behind DEI understand that.

01:14:04.000 And I think some of them think that emerging technologies will be powerful enough to make up the difference.

01:14:11.000 So maybe there's a DEI collapse in quality at air traffic control, but once AI is sophisticated enough, you won't really need competent people.

01:14:22.000 Yeah, but AI is doing the same thing.

01:14:24.000 I mean, we've seen, you know, AI being taken over.

01:14:27.000 Wow, we got inclusive AI. So it's artificial intelligence that's hamstrung by DEI or by, you know, woke mindset.

01:14:37.000 So you can't really tell the truth.

01:14:39.000 And we're going to make sure that, you know, we give someone the added benefit of the doubt because they've been somehow magically oppressed along the way.

01:14:47.000 And you see that happening even in AI. And I know Elon, if we're talking about him, he was concerned about the future of AI. And I think it's very scary.

01:14:56.000 But I don't think our enemies, whether it's Russia, China, or Iran, they're not going to hamstring AI with DEI requirements like we would here in the United States.

01:15:06.000 And that would leave us in the dust, the way this is developing and how quickly that's developing.

01:15:10.000 That in and of itself is very scary.

01:15:13.000 Absolutely, yes.

01:15:14.000 And my understanding is China, in certain key respects, has already surpassed us in AI. Oh, I'm sure they have.

01:15:21.000 And they have inherent advantages just because AI is largely sort of data-driven, and they have billions of people to work with, and they're even more of a surveillance state than we are, albeit slightly.

01:15:35.000 Yeah, we're much worse than we realize, but I think people are waking up to that every day.

01:15:41.000 Yes, yes. Darren, how do you view the 2024 race right now, if we're going to talk about that?

01:15:46.000 Because a big part of that and a big part of our future is going to be dependent on sort of what happens there.

01:15:52.000 Are you optimistic?

01:15:53.000 Are you pessimistic?

01:15:54.000 What are going to be the big challenges?

01:15:56.000 What's going to be the nonsense that the Democrats come up with this time to try to manipulate an election?

01:16:02.000 Are you concerned about RFK Jr.

01:16:05.000 and a third party run?

01:16:07.000 Where are you on all of that right now for 2024?

01:16:09.000 I'm not particularly concerned with RAFK Jr.

01:16:12.000 I think it's still ambiguous as to what ultimate effect, if any, that would have.

01:16:18.000 I think the two main questions are, how far will they be willing to go to stop Trump?

01:16:24.000 Because they've gone...

01:16:26.000 Pretty far.

01:16:29.000 They've gone pretty damn far already, and he's a shoo-in for the nomination.

01:16:34.000 Most polls that I've seen suggest that he would clobber Biden in a general election situation.

01:16:40.000 So this is a really dangerous time for the Democrats.

01:16:45.000 They probably thought, okay, we'll begin.

01:16:50.000 No. So there's that problem.

01:16:52.000 Clearly what they've done isn't working, and in many cases it's actually backfired.

01:16:57.000 The whole Ron DeSantis op was dead in the water and they thought that would be a big thing.

01:17:02.000 Well, that was a complete failure.

01:17:05.000 So that's where we are on the Republican side.

01:17:08.000 But on the Democrat side, it's arguably even worse for the Democrats because they're caught in this situation where Biden's increasingly a liability.

01:17:18.000 He's looking worse and worse.

01:17:20.000 It's less and less plausible, just the imagination, to think of somebody like that actually running for president again, much less serving a second term in the Oval Office.

01:17:32.000 But as I pointed out, they face a very difficult strategic problem because

01:17:38.000 the more the Hunter stuff comes to the fore, ironically, the more Joe Biden wants to cling

01:17:47.000 to the presidency and the pardon power that comes with it.

01:17:51.000 So to the extent that people thought that they could intimidate him out of office by

01:17:56.000 sort of amplifying the Hunter stuff, it has the opposite effect, I would think. That's a really

01:17:59.000 good point. I've never thought about it. Obviously, he's going to pardon him, he's going

01:18:02.000 to sit there. But if some of these things drag out longer than that, which by any reasonable

01:18:06.000 measure, they could.

01:18:07.000 Yep.

01:18:09.000 That creates a serious problem for him.

01:18:11.000 And again, right now, it's not a problem for him because I think the DOJ is doing Hunter a favor, as I sort of stated in my opening monologue tonight.

01:18:19.000 All of the things that Hunter bided, the only things he's not charged with are literally the dozens of things where Joe is a recipient, a participant, someone who got 10% for the big guy, someone who's getting wire transfers.

01:18:30.000 It's only the Hunter stuff.

01:18:33.000 And You know, so clearly the DOJ is running cover for Joe Biden as they have.

01:18:38.000 This is actually, you know, barely.

01:18:40.000 No, but it's an indictment. He could go to jail.

01:18:41.000 He should be going to jail for 30x what he could possibly get from this.

01:18:46.000 They're just not going there.

01:18:48.000 Right. Well, not yet.

01:18:49.000 But the very possibility that they could.

01:18:52.000 I think it makes Joe Biden more kind of jealous of the powers of the presidency, so to speak.

01:19:00.000 And then there's the problem that the heir apparent, should Biden step aside, is completely untenable, and that is Kamala Harris, and everybody knows that.

01:19:11.000 But Passing her over creates a whole host of difficulties with, you know, the fact that she's a woman of color and this could aggravate the Democrat base on top of Biden already stirring up the base by being perceived, believe it or not, as too pro-Israel from the perspective of a lot of the radical base on the left.

01:19:34.000 So he's already kind of in the doghouse for that.

01:19:36.000 Yeah. To step over Kamala is another problem.

01:19:40.000 And then there's a question of even if you were to step over, who do you put in her place?

01:19:45.000 And so there's no elegant solution to this as of yet, at least that I could think of.

01:19:51.000 And I think if they'd have thought of it, they would have implemented it now.

01:19:54.000 So the question of how that all works out is one of the big ones.

01:19:59.000 And then the question of What else are they going to do to Trump now that all of the stuff they've already done hasn't worked?

01:20:06.000 Those, I think, are the two critical questions here in relation to 2024, because I think it's fair to say, if the election were today between Trump and Biden, Trump would win, you know, just hands down.

01:20:18.000 Yeah, so my father, you know, they've been doing this, you know, he's going to be a dictator, according to Liz Cheney, the daughter of Darth Vader, you know, and the Atlantic and the mainstream media and the Washington Post.

01:20:31.000 I mean, they've been doing that dictator narrative.

01:20:33.000 I think he dispels it, you know, very quickly.

01:20:35.000 He had it sort of perfectly, did it perfectly in the Hannity Town Hall where he's like, no, I'm not going to be a dictator.

01:20:40.000 Just on day one, where we shut down our border and we start drilling again to, you know, save our energy and save us from the insanity that's going on down there.

01:20:48.000 Can you give us, you know, what else would be part of your sort of day one agenda for a second Trump administration?

01:20:56.000 That's a great question.

01:20:58.000 The irony of the whole dictator thing is that a dictator in its original Roman context is precisely what we need.

01:21:07.000 There was actually accountability for dictators, and the left and the regime, they're the ones who enjoy a complete lack of accountability.

01:21:18.000 So even a dictator would be a vast improvement over what we actually have now in the precise sense of the term.

01:21:26.000 But as for, you know, what Trump should do, I think, you know, his policy proposals, his policy speeches have all been excellent.

01:21:35.000 He knows what to do in terms of addressing the censorship issue.

01:21:40.000 I think one of the main things he's going to have to do is address the lawfare that's coming from the regime and take that very seriously because we can't be in a position where every You know, president running as a Republican who threatens to actually change things has to face criminal indictments.

01:22:01.000 So that needs to be addressed.

01:22:03.000 And we published a major piece on how that could be approached.

01:22:08.000 And I think also he needs to take on the DEI bureaucracy.

01:22:13.000 So there's the national security bureaucracy that he's been taking on the swamp,

01:22:19.000 but the DEI swamp in particular needs to be a reckoning with some of the offshoots of the civil rights law

01:22:29.000 that have put us in a position that is frankly disastrous and completely uncompetitive.

01:22:35.000 So those would be the main things that I would suggest.

01:22:39.000 All right, so you've led this charge on sort of taking on the mainstream media.

01:22:43.000 You know, I've done it with MXM News.

01:22:44.000 You've done it with Revolver News.

01:22:45.000 I'm an aggregator. You guys are actually out there chasing down real stories and doing it.

01:22:50.000 Is the so-called mainstream media dead?

01:22:53.000 I mean, it seems like more than ever, outlets, NBC, ABC, the New York Times, the Washington Post, I mean...

01:23:00.000 They have less control of the narrative.

01:23:01.000 They're trying desperately, and perhaps that desperation wreaks so much that it's actually sort of perpetuating their own demise.

01:23:08.000 But, you know, where does that stand right now?

01:23:11.000 What are you seeing, you know, on the forefront of that fight?

01:23:14.000 Because it has been a problem that's been going on for a long time.

01:23:19.000 That's an interesting question.

01:23:22.000 And yes, I think the mainstream media has definitely weakened and suffered reputational damage, and deservedly so, particularly since Trump came into the scene and correctly identified them as fake news.

01:23:37.000 But now that I'm thinking about it, the distinction occurred to me between a I think it's a kind of credibility crisis, which I think they have, and a legitimacy crisis.

01:23:49.000 Credibility crisis pertains to whether people actually believe anymore what they're told by the media, and I think that is a real thing.

01:23:56.000 I think there is a certain amount of legitimacy crisis, but not as much as you'd think.

01:24:02.000 And I give an explanation for that.

01:24:04.000 That even if people don't really buy what the New York Times is saying, there's still a sense that once the New York Times says it, now it's been properly admitted into the domain of consensus discourse.

01:24:18.000 It's only when the New York Times says it that it becomes...

01:24:21.000 We could all know it well in advance, but the New York Times still has that legitimacy in terms of functioning as the stamp of approval that allows it to become sort of common domain consensus such that we can all talk about this thing as though it were real.

01:24:39.000 And that type of legitimacy is perfectly compatible with You know, dwindling credibility, plummeting credibility.

01:24:49.000 And I think that dynamic hasn't been sufficiently explored.

01:24:53.000 And I think that applies to varying degrees across the mainstream media, although New York Times is sort of the flagship of that, which is why I use them as an example.

01:25:03.000 And then sort of at the conservative side, I still think, unfortunately, that Fox News has a tremendous amount of power and it's almost sort of by default.

01:25:14.000 And again, it's like this is the default thing.

01:25:17.000 A lot of, you know, older folks in particular, they just watch and it doesn't matter what's on the table.

01:25:22.000 And so I think there are two versions of the story.

01:25:26.000 You can tell a perfectly valid story that Fox News has taken a hit, and that's true.

01:25:30.000 But then there's also the story of how remarkably robust it is, given how much it's screwed up.

01:25:38.000 And that's a robustness that comes simply by virtue of the power of cable television.

01:25:46.000 So that would be my sort of mixed answer to that question.

01:25:51.000 Okay, so I saw what Fox News clearly did for Ron DeSantis for two years, right?

01:25:58.000 I'll call it maybe the greatest all time fluffing in the world and yet it doesn't seem,

01:26:04.000 who knows, we're still 30 something days out from Iowa caucuses, who knows,

01:26:07.000 maybe he pulls off the miracle they're all hoping for.

01:26:09.000 But it didn't seem to move the needle much for him there or it did initially and then it sort of faded away

01:26:15.000 because eventually you have to sort of stand up on your own.

01:26:17.000 Does Ron DeSantis have a future in politics after sort of this campaign, after the flip-flopping,

01:26:22.000 after, if he doesn't magically overperform, what happens next?

01:26:29.000 Yeah, that's a great question.

01:26:30.000 No, I think, Notwithstanding what I just said about the tremendous power of Fox News, even Fox News can't make Ron DeSantis an attractive candidate.

01:26:42.000 Well, they tried hard.

01:26:43.000 I was watching, I was like, what are you talking about?

01:26:45.000 Like, you know, I knew he wasn't, you know, because I said, hey, in 2018, I did like 30 events with him.

01:26:50.000 I opened for him, I closed for him, I did that.

01:26:52.000 And it's like, just wait till you see him in long form.

01:26:54.000 I mean, they anointed him president before he had spoken for more than 15 seconds in front of a real crowd.

01:27:00.000 And you realize like, oh, wait a minute, he doesn't have that You know, on your feet, you know, sort of responses that Trump has or that, you know, frankly, so many of the other, you know, candidates have.

01:27:09.000 You see that in sort of the debate performances.

01:27:12.000 It's just incredibly uncomfortable.

01:27:14.000 So, you know, what happens next?

01:27:17.000 So yeah, for DeSantis, I mean, I can't really prognosticate other than to say that he has no presidential future, you know, as to whether, you know, and it's sad, because look, you know, I thought he was a good governor of Florida, and he should have stayed governor, and I wish he had realized that, and because it's such a waste, because you see someone who could do well, you know, relative, I know he wasn't a perfect governor and all that, but who could do well in a relative context if he understood I think we're good to go.

01:27:51.000 Yeah, no, I think that's fair.

01:27:52.000 Now he's been campaigning for a year.

01:27:54.000 He's been in Iowa, basically, exclusively.

01:27:56.000 But guess what? You know, Florida was fine, and we've had an absentee governor.

01:28:00.000 You live here. I live here.

01:28:02.000 You know, I guess he wasn't there when Lauderdale, where you live, and stuff like that was flooded.

01:28:08.000 He was in Iowa.

01:28:09.000 It was the perpetual, the longest book tour in the history of book tours that turned into a presidential campaign.

01:28:15.000 And yet, I guess, in a place like Florida, you do have People that sort of just believe what we believe, and we believe in that freedom.

01:28:21.000 So it's sort of okay, even if you do have an absentee governor, at least for now.

01:28:25.000 I don't think that lasts forever.

01:28:26.000 For now. But, you know, and the thing is, is that, you know, it's, I give them credit for the COVID stuff to a degree, just because, but when you think about it, it's such a low standard.

01:28:35.000 It's like, you become a great governor by not completely destroying the economy unnecessarily.

01:28:40.000 It's only by virtue of the other governors being so, like, incredibly It doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand.

01:28:50.000 You don't shut down the state over COVID. That's not rocket science.

01:28:56.000 That should just be common sense to everybody and apply across the board.

01:29:00.000 But the unfortunate reality is it wasn't.

01:29:02.000 And he, to some degree, stood up to that.

01:29:05.000 And that was good.

01:29:07.000 But No, I think he's dramatically depleted his political capital to the point where there's precious little left.

01:29:18.000 And I don't see any sign of that stopping, frankly.

01:29:21.000 There were various off-ramps that he could have taken, and he's resisted that for one reason or another.

01:29:29.000 So I don't know how many more off-ramps, if any, he'll have to take.

01:29:33.000 So we'll just have to continue to watch this train wreck.

01:29:37.000 Well, Darren, I really appreciate you being here as always.

01:29:41.000 Guys, make sure to go check out Revolver News and the other things that Darren is working on.

01:29:45.000 I mean, they're ahead of the game on a lot of these stories.

01:29:48.000 They're breaking actual, real news.

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01:30:00.000 Again, check him out at Revolver News.

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Darren Beattie Knows What's Coming Next: Major Revolver News Investigations | TRIGGERED Ep.92

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