Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - DEFEATING WOKE CAPITAL: PUBLICSQ GOING PUBLIC, Michael Seifert & Omeed Malik on the Patriot Economy

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00:01:26.000 you Guys, Don Junior has a great day.

00:01:31.000 here, and welcome to another exciting episode of Triggered.

00:01:35.000 Today's a special one.

00:01:37.000 It's unique in that the guys that I'm gonna have on the show are actually at the forefront of the patriot economy, that parallel economy taking on the radical leftist insanity.

00:01:48.000 I have Michael Seifert, who's been on the show, but a lot's happened with Public Square since he first made an appearance.

00:01:55.000 They're now going public on the New York Stock Exchange.

00:01:59.000 Allowing them access to the public markets and the capital markets to be able to grow and actually fund that movement.

00:02:06.000 We're not just at cancel culture and boycotts.

00:02:09.000 We're actually taking it to the next level.

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00:06:09.000 And with that, guys, I'm going to go to my friends Omid Malik and Michael Seifert, and we're going to talk about the patriot economy.

00:06:16.000 Alright guys, we're back and we have an exciting show for you today.

00:06:20.000 We have Michael Seifert, the CEO of Public Square.

00:06:24.000 Michael's been on, actually had an awesome show because what Michael's all about is the parallel economy.

00:06:30.000 We've seen that today. We've seen cancel culture from woke corporate.

00:06:33.000 We've seen the insanity that's going on and Michael literally has been fighting back and at the forefront of that movement for quite some time.

00:06:41.000 Starting out just literally out of his house In San Diego, but now we're taking it to a different level.

00:06:49.000 We're going public. Omid Malik is my buddy.

00:06:53.000 He's taking public square public on the New York Stock Exchange, allowing us to have access to the public capital markets to be able to grow and continue this movement.

00:07:06.000 Guys, we talk about, you know, cancel culture.

00:07:08.000 We see it every day.

00:07:10.000 That's not enough. Now we have the ability to actually take it further, to actually invest in the companies that share your values.

00:07:19.000 You hear it in my intros all the time.

00:07:21.000 You hear it with the sponsors of this show.

00:07:24.000 Now we're taking it to the next level.

00:07:26.000 So Omid, I want to welcome you aboard.

00:07:28.000 This is your first time. Michael, that was one of our biggest shows.

00:07:32.000 You know, we sort of threw it together at CPAC, recorded this thing, you know, had over a million views because people are excited about this concept.

00:07:41.000 Give them the recap for those who haven't seen what's going on.

00:07:44.000 And then, Omid, I want you to talk about sort of where we are because it gets complicated, but we can really simplify it so that you, too, can take part in, again, not just boycotting, but actually going further.

00:07:56.000 Actually supporting those companies that share your values.

00:07:59.000 Actually investing, even if it's two dollars, in the people that are in the forefront of this movement taking on the insanity of what's going on in woke corporate America.

00:08:09.000 Well, happy to be back. Good to have you, man.

00:08:11.000 Yeah, good to see you. A lot's happened since we...

00:08:13.000 A lot's happened. And a lot's happened in the years since we met.

00:08:16.000 Yeah? Well, and tell you what, not only has a lot happened at Public Square, but a lot has happened in society that has reaffirmed the need for Public Square.

00:08:23.000 Just last week, Ben& Jerry's, Adidas...

00:08:26.000 Target last month, Bud Light the month before that.

00:08:28.000 There are these constant reminders of why we need a parallel economy.

00:08:32.000 And people are tired of being lectured about these companies that they're just trying to buy household goods from, about indigenous land and woke politics and gender expression and all this nonsense.

00:08:45.000 People are ready for an alternative for all these different lifestyle brands so that they can actually know with a

00:08:50.000 blessed assurance That they're not funding companies that want to indoctrinate

00:08:53.000 their kids and stand against all the principles that made the United States special in the first

00:08:57.000 place so We have been able to provide a really proactive solution

00:09:00.000 that has been seen as Not only kind of a cool additive to consumers lives, but a

00:09:05.000 real necessity. It's been a necessity for us I'm tired of funding my opposition and now thankfully with

00:09:10.000 public square and the way that this is growing we built this incredible coalition

00:09:14.000 We have thousands of businesses that are offering alternatives. They're saying guys we love our country

00:09:19.000 We love our Constitution. We're never going to lecture you or your family about this woke nonsense, and they deserve our dollars.

00:09:25.000 You're never going to make sure that your kids wear, like, the trans, satanic clothing and make sure that we highlight that you're...

00:09:29.000 Tucking underwear and all this nonsense? Well, because that's, you know, that's true, but what's worse is you see the boycotts.

00:09:35.000 I think it's sort of incredible.

00:09:37.000 You see these companies, they see they're losing billions of dollars, but then...

00:09:43.000 They double down. Target last week was threatening to take down Mark Levin, my friend.

00:09:50.000 Take down his book.

00:09:53.000 They finally caved after some pressure because losing $10 billion in market cap the week before wasn't enough.

00:09:58.000 But it's not stopping.

00:10:00.000 Ben and Jerry's watches all of this, and they think that America should give all of its land back to...

00:10:04.000 Did you see? The tribe, I guess, that lived in the area where Ben and Jerry's has their corporate headquarters was like, okay, we want your corporate HQ. I want to see their action, because it's always talk.

00:10:19.000 It's virtue signaling, and we're sick of it, but it's...

00:10:24.000 And I've been guilty of this too, because I know some people in some of corporate America, I'm like, come on, they don't actually believe this stuff, so it's like maybe...

00:10:29.000 But no, they keep doubling down.

00:10:31.000 They keep buying in, so I don't think you can give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.

00:10:35.000 I've made that mistake myself, being like, come on, it's not that bad, because I know some of these people.

00:10:40.000 But it is because they're controlled by those woke corporations.

00:10:44.000 So, I guess that's where I come in.

00:10:45.000 What are we going to do about it? We can continue to bitch and moan like we have for over a decade, or we could actually create some solutions, and that's what we're here to talk about today, is that we have probably the best solution for patriots in this country, and that's going public next week.

00:10:59.000 On the New York Stock Exchange, Public Square.

00:11:02.000 And that's how I factor into this conversation.

00:11:05.000 Talk about that whole process.

00:11:06.000 You could buy it, but it's not Public Square the ticket.

00:11:10.000 Right now, you can get into Columbia Acquisition Corporation.

00:11:13.000 I'll make it really simple.

00:11:15.000 They're going public through a SPAC. I'm the guy that runs that SPAC. The SPAC is a public company that's already on the New York Stock Exchange.

00:11:22.000 It's called Columbia Acquisition Corp.

00:11:23.000 It's CLBR. That's the ticker on the New York Stock Exchange.

00:11:26.000 I'm the chairman and CEO of that company.

00:11:28.000 I had to go and find a company I wanted to take public, and this was the company I wanted to do that with.

00:11:34.000 In the next week, he's going to become the surviving company and my company goes away.

00:11:39.000 Now, that takes him public and he gets all the cash that I have that's going to help him put his growth into overdrive.

00:11:45.000 That's the exciting thing about it.

00:11:46.000 So you guys understand, that's approximately, let's call it $200 million that Michael then, as CEO of Public Square, will have to be able to help grow this business.

00:11:57.000 Invest in, let's call it OEM products of other people that want to take on big corporate.

00:12:02.000 It gives them so much flexibility to, again...

00:12:06.000 Not just boycott and show you, here's an alternative to that product, but actually go and take them on.

00:12:11.000 I mean, that's a big deal, right?

00:12:12.000 That's the next step. Because, again, the boycotts have been great in terms of destroying market cap, but if they're doubling down, it's not enough.

00:12:20.000 We actually got to... Kid Rock can shoot, your friend can shoot the cans, and I think that's funny and we'll laugh at it, but then what's the positive thing?

00:12:28.000 That's only one aspect of it.

00:12:30.000 That day after they did that, he had an 800% increase in searches for beer.

00:12:35.000 So people want to find beer that is actually something that's not owned by a multinational conglomerate.

00:12:41.000 You know, I saw an interview actually with DeSantis a few weeks after that happened, and he said, oh, I'm never going to drink Bud Light again.

00:12:46.000 But then the guy said, what do you drink?

00:12:48.000 And he said, Guinness. And then it was found out that the company that owned Guinness did a transgender ad during the Super Bowl.

00:12:53.000 It never ends. Guinness was significantly worse.

00:12:55.000 But that's my point. It's not happening unless you go to these other companies that, by the way, over 55,000 businesses on his app, all of which are small and medium-sized businesses.

00:13:05.000 This isn't political. It is the largest repository of small and medium-sized businesses in America.

00:13:10.000 Those are the companies that were most harmed by the COVID lockdowns.

00:13:14.000 So this transcends politics.

00:13:16.000 And they are also the companies that are struggling the most under the current administration's economic policy.

00:13:21.000 So you don't only get a chance to support businesses that are the backbone of America, the middle class.

00:13:26.000 You also now, once the company is about to go public, you have the ability to support them by going and buying the stock now and owning a company that actually represents your values.

00:13:35.000 There really isn't any precedent for that until right now.

00:13:38.000 No, it's totally unique.

00:13:39.000 And like I said, Michael and I met A little over a year ago.

00:13:44.000 And it was like, I love the concept.

00:13:46.000 I'm an investor. Like, I'm a pretty significant investor, you know, in all of this.

00:13:51.000 So I've believed in the movement for so long.

00:13:53.000 But again, I think at the time we thought, hey, you know, we'll keep getting small businesses.

00:13:56.000 We'll give them a venue to get to other patriotic people who want to support that kind of business rather than, again, give your money to Woke Corporate, which is going to be then...

00:14:05.000 Spent and weaponized against everything that you believe in.

00:14:09.000 Or you can do this.

00:14:10.000 And the people who sign up on Public Square, whether you're a consumer or a small business looking to get to that market of people who believe, you're aligning those values.

00:14:19.000 Give us the quick recap of that, Michael, as well as some of the things that you've done that are just sort of the antithesis of what you see every day going on in world corporate.

00:14:27.000 What you've done for young parents.

00:14:31.000 Yeah. Who work at Public Square.

00:14:33.000 Just doing the opposite of what, again, big corporate.

00:14:36.000 We'll pay for you to go travel all over the world to get an abortion.

00:14:40.000 Just depravity.

00:14:43.000 Corporate-funded depravity at this point.

00:14:45.000 Well, and by the way, that corporate-funded depravity is this guise.

00:14:49.000 They're trying to say, we care about women's health care and we want to promote the health care of our women employees.

00:14:54.000 But in reality, that's not what they're doing.

00:14:55.000 What they're doing is... Protecting their bottom line.

00:14:57.000 They want to spend less on your maternity leave, so they'd rather you terminate your baby instead of promoting the empowerment and the growth of your family.

00:15:04.000 From the beginning, Public Square has always been seeking for solutions.

00:15:08.000 We want to be more about what we're for than what we're against, which is why, from the beginning, instead of just showing a blacklist of companies you should stay away from, we promote the largest repository the world's ever seen of businesses that you should go to, because if we can shift our dollars to these businesses, The, in turn, power structures of society will shift back toward the values that we share.

00:15:30.000 And I believe that ultimately these values we're describing, a love for country, love for freedom, a love for liberty, and the values that the Constitution protects, these are American values.

00:15:39.000 They're what made this country the best country the world's ever seen.

00:15:42.000 And we've created at PublicSQ.com a network of those.

00:15:45.000 And what's pretty cool is that...

00:15:47.000 Every week, we just try to be creative about what's a new solution we can provide.

00:15:50.000 And obviously, going public is a major solution because it allows folks to not only spend their money with companies that support them, but also invest their money with companies that support them in a world dominated by ESG and DEI. Recently, another one of those solutions that we thought of, you brought it up.

00:16:05.000 It was kind of a fun thing.

00:16:07.000 We were so frustrated watching after the overturn of Roe v.

00:16:10.000 Wade last year, which was a big win, thanks to your dad and the great administration.

00:16:14.000 You know, that win was really profound.

00:16:16.000 But then all these companies came out and they were like, we stand against this and we're going to fund our employees abortions because we care so much.

00:16:22.000 In reality, they don't.

00:16:23.000 But we said, you know what? We actually love our employees and their families.

00:16:27.000 We want their families to grow and expand.

00:16:29.000 And I would hope that they would feel like Public Square is a great place to work where they know that their employer has their back if they want to continue expanding their family.

00:16:36.000 And so we actually decided while the world was going to do $4,500 per abortion at Amazon, Lululemon, Uber, all these different places, Let's actually do $5,000 in a bonus after tax to any of our employees that have a baby or adopt.

00:16:49.000 So if you're on our staff and you or your spouse has a child, or if you decide to adopt, we'll actually give you $5,000 in a bonus.

00:16:56.000 No restrictions as to how you'd like to use it.

00:16:59.000 And I'm really proud to say that we've already had four employees take us up on it.

00:17:02.000 And in the last month, we've had another four pregnancies announced.

00:17:05.000 It's working. There's a lot of excitement.

00:17:07.000 And we're a small company, but growing fast.

00:17:08.000 So to have this policy in here at the beginning sends a message to our team.

00:17:12.000 We are pro-family. And we're not just saying that so that we can represent that to our businesses.

00:17:17.000 We mean it even at the very core of our company.

00:17:19.000 These sort of solutions are working.

00:17:21.000 And by the way, it's why our inbox is flooded with applications from people that are leaving Amazon and Target and Yelp.

00:17:26.000 And they're just saying, I'm so tired of talking nonstop about mental health days and woke politics and the need for BLM. I'm ready to support a company that's very simply pro-America, pro-family, constitution, bringing it back to the basics.

00:17:40.000 Okay, so talk about that, because again, when we started talking over a year ago, I love the idea, but when I made an introduction to Omid, I was like, you guys got to link up because we can scale this.

00:17:51.000 We can make it bigger. There's something that needs to be done here.

00:17:55.000 Omid, you came from an interesting background.

00:17:57.000 Obviously, corporate law, corporate finance, New York City.

00:18:01.000 Even, you know, different political views.

00:18:04.000 This is kind of like the odd couple.

00:18:05.000 It is, but it's worked incredibly.

00:18:08.000 But talk about that, because when I see, you know, and again, being part of it and being an investor and going through the deck, you know, some of the employees that you're bringing, these are people that function at a really high level in major corporate America.

00:18:20.000 Like, I'm shocked that a small company, you know, now you're going to have the access to the capital.

00:18:25.000 But I'm shocked that you could even attract Some of the talent that you've had.

00:18:29.000 Again, some of the companies that we've even named today, you know, people that were running stuff there that are like, I'm sick, I don't believe in any of this stuff, but I'm forced because they're trapped.

00:18:38.000 But they're like, you know what, I'm going to take a pay cut to go do this because we've got to fight back.

00:18:43.000 This is not just a financial transaction.

00:18:45.000 It's part of a broader cultural, political movement.

00:18:48.000 So I'll just give you a couple minutes as to how this thing came together, at least in my head, because it's very personal.

00:18:53.000 Moving from where we met in New York down to Florida, that was for my family for both political and cultural reasons.

00:19:01.000 It was clear to me that there were visions of political systems that are not working.

00:19:06.000 California versus Texas.

00:19:07.000 Florida versus New York.

00:19:09.000 The data is all there. Deficits versus surpluses.

00:19:12.000 No income tax versus taxes.

00:19:14.000 So I started thinking like, and then the cultural movements that we're all talking about that you're at the forefront of.

00:19:18.000 What's the next battlefield?

00:19:20.000 When I got here, I had this thesis that it was going to be around commerce, which is insane because the one thing America was, right, Michael Jordan said, is I don't talk about politics because Republicans buy sneakers too.

00:19:31.000 That was in the 90s.

00:19:32.000 It seems totally trite now that he said that.

00:19:34.000 That's how far we've come.

00:19:35.000 But I said if the other part of the country is getting divided, this is the next area.

00:19:40.000 And I didn't have to look too far.

00:19:41.000 You just look at what Canada did when they took away the bank accounts of all those truckers.

00:19:45.000 That we're trying to protest their rights against getting the shot.

00:19:49.000 So I knew that that type of stuff was coming here and we saw it with the censorship.

00:19:54.000 Effectively, what we saw was the government using private big tech monopolies to take away our constitutional rights.

00:20:00.000 Correct. That's effectively what was going on.

00:20:02.000 Yeah, it sounds dystopian, but it's actually happening.

00:20:05.000 You know it better than anybody. Trudeau talks about everyone should be able to peacefully protest until truckers peacefully protest.

00:20:10.000 And then it's like, we're going to throw you in jail.

00:20:11.000 We're going to track down your bank accounts.

00:20:13.000 We're going to fine you.

00:20:15.000 You know, that's not...

00:20:16.000 That's not off the table.

00:20:18.000 Stay at home because COVID will kill you unless you're protesting for social justice.

00:20:23.000 Then it can actually be good.

00:20:24.000 We saw that in New York.

00:20:25.000 Then you'll be immune to the virus if you do that.

00:20:28.000 So that's how you trust the science to those people.

00:20:31.000 So basically, with all of that as a backdrop, I'm raising money, investing in companies.

00:20:36.000 I started getting pitched by all these businesses that were being part of this new patriot economy that was starting up.

00:20:42.000 And I said there's something huge here.

00:20:43.000 And as I said on Tucker's show, that's over 100 million Americans that feel not only ignored but alienated.

00:20:49.000 Think about that. Why would you do that?

00:20:51.000 We all think it's stupid.

00:20:53.000 But listen, to our detriment, we haven't done anything about it until right now.

00:20:57.000 But that seems like a big part of the opportunity in terms of going public.

00:21:01.000 I know it from Trump Org.

00:21:03.000 I know it from other businesses.

00:21:06.000 Insurance companies, they don't even want to look at you.

00:21:08.000 Banks don't want to finance you.

00:21:10.000 It's like you're dealing with half the country, and you can make a pretty solid business with 100, 175 million Americans, and there's probably plenty of independents that are sick of what's going on.

00:21:20.000 Third largest economy in the world, by the way. Yeah, just there.

00:21:22.000 And right now, No one's even willing to talk to them.

00:21:26.000 No one's even willing to cater to them, which seems like a strong investment opportunity as well.

00:21:32.000 Which is why you've become the face for so many consumer-oriented brands that want to be able to scale and get to this cohort that has all the spending power that you've seen firsthand that no one has tapped into.

00:21:42.000 I mean, it's one thing to ignore them.

00:21:44.000 It's another thing to go and spit in their eye, right?

00:21:46.000 So that's kind of where we stand.

00:21:48.000 And to me, when we linked up, You know, we started that other fund, 1789 Capital, just to invest in these businesses.

00:21:54.000 So the first idea was maybe we just make an investment in it.

00:21:56.000 But I said, no way.

00:21:58.000 This is too big. You go back several millennia, the most foundational aspect of any economy is an exchange.

00:22:05.000 People finding buyers and sellers and combining them.

00:22:08.000 That's what he is, fundamentally, is an exchange.

00:22:10.000 Providing the transparency for Americans who are totally disaffected with the corporate culture they find themselves in to conduct commerce.

00:22:18.000 So it is more important than almost any other monoline product.

00:22:21.000 This is the foundation of the patriot economy.

00:22:24.000 Everything will then blossom from there.

00:22:26.000 Effectively, the way that Amazon has shown that it's now digital.

00:22:29.000 We all are forced to use a company that is actually underwriting and sponsoring our biggest enemy, the CCP. Why do we do this stuff?

00:22:37.000 So this is the first step in that broader, I think, revolution.

00:22:42.000 And I'm very pleased to help them do that.

00:22:45.000 And the opportunity for your viewers and everybody that watches this show is you don't just have to stand on the sidelines.

00:22:51.000 You can use his site now instead of Amazon or other places or Yelp.

00:22:55.000 And then now what we're presenting is an opportunity to actually be owners of it as well, which is to go and help support the mission.

00:23:02.000 And that's sealed the Arctic.

00:23:03.000 Yeah, and that allows for future growth.

00:23:06.000 That allows us to expand those platforms.

00:23:08.000 That allows us to improve and continually adjust.

00:23:11.000 Because, again, you're up against, let's call it, almost trillion-dollar companies, right?

00:23:17.000 That's a big deal. And they've gone out of their way to spit in the face of, you know, people who just believe basic things that, honestly, five years ago as an American, wouldn't have been controversial.

00:23:29.000 Like, you wouldn't even, like, you know, I feel, I always say on the show, like, I feel like I'm the star of the Truman Show.

00:23:33.000 Like, someone's got to be screwing with me.

00:23:35.000 I'm waiting for Ashton Kutcher to jump out of a cake and be like, yeah, you're being punked!

00:23:39.000 Because it's that ridiculous, and yet that's today's mainstream thought.

00:23:44.000 You know, Michael, talk a little bit about sort of the growth of the platform, the people, you know, the amount of companies coming on, not just, you know, again, not just the consumers that are signing up, because again, it goes both ways, right?

00:23:54.000 So if you're just... You know, if you want to find the store in your neighborhood or when you travel, you know, the non-woke coffee shop, you go to Public Square.

00:24:02.000 But if you're that coffee shop and you're looking to attract business, I mean, you have some great stories of saving businesses.

00:24:08.000 But talk a little bit about that growth and maybe give us a story about some of those businesses that were like, hey, man, I'm just a patriotic business struggling.

00:24:14.000 They got on the platform and all of a sudden other people found them because I think it's a big deal.

00:24:18.000 Well, that's actually the best and most rewarding part of all of this.

00:24:21.000 We're excited about going public.

00:24:22.000 We're excited about the growth.

00:24:23.000 We hit a million members faster than Twitter, Airbnb, Spotify did.

00:24:26.000 We've had incredible breakthroughs and milestones, but nothing has been more exciting and rewarding than the testimonies we hear from business owners.

00:24:34.000 I remember it was the first month we launched, and there was a business that reached out.

00:24:38.000 It was a hair salon. And she said, hey, just wanted to let you know, I've really struggled recently.

00:24:42.000 And in the first five days of being listed here...

00:24:46.000 I made enough business just from Public Square consumers for my entire month.

00:24:50.000 Thank you so much. That one story made it all worthwhile.

00:24:53.000 And I honestly said, I remember thinking, if that's all I ever hear, this entire journey and all the blood, sweat, and tears that went into it, completely worth it.

00:25:00.000 And that's just one tiny fraction of the iceberg.

00:25:05.000 We're hearing from incredible companies that are jumping into really hard industries like the healthcare space.

00:25:10.000 There's a company called America First Healthcare that joined the app and they said, hey, we had to double our staff size just because of a push notification that you guys sent out to your consumers.

00:25:20.000 And then we did another one, and they had to do it again.

00:25:22.000 So they're growing and expanding, and the right businesses are prospering.

00:25:25.000 There's a restaurant that was nearly done, and COVID wiped them out.

00:25:29.000 I mean, COVID was so hard on restaurants.

00:25:31.000 Especially, restaurant service industry really decimated that crew.

00:25:36.000 I mean, almost half of the restaurants in LA County Have struggled to even reopen ever again.

00:25:41.000 There's this massive turnover, and we don't want to see that happen.

00:25:44.000 We want to see the right types of businesses prospering into the future.

00:25:47.000 This restaurant reaches out and says, hey, due to Public Square consumers, I feel like we have the ground underneath our feet again.

00:25:53.000 And then there's the fun stories, too, of a beef jerky company that joined Carnivore Snacks, actually.

00:25:58.000 Joe Rogan calls them his favorite snack.

00:26:00.000 Carnivore Snacks came in.

00:26:02.000 We brought $40,000 of sales to them in their first month of joining us as an advertiser.

00:26:07.000 I mean, it's so cool to watch how this patriotic economy is not only a very liberating movement, it is also incredibly lucrative.

00:26:14.000 And actually, the point I'll end with is that, you know, over the last 60 days, Anheuser-Busch, Disney, and Target combined have lost over $50 billion in market cap.

00:26:24.000 52.5 when you add Ben& Jerry's.

00:26:26.000 Ben& Jerry's. Great point. But again...

00:26:28.000 But they keep doing it. It's one thing, the first, you make a stupid marketing mistake, you have a bad hat, but then you watch.

00:26:34.000 And it's like, you know what? I'm going to spit in your face, and I'm going to double down, and I'm going to say that it's still right.

00:26:40.000 That's what I don't get. I mean, you know...

00:26:44.000 How is Disney, with millions of shareholders all over the world, how do they go to their board meetings and say, we're doing the right thing?

00:26:54.000 It seems like there's not even a fiduciary responsibility anymore.

00:26:59.000 Their responsibility is to the woke, communist, leftist, socialist, whatever you want.

00:27:05.000 At this point, honestly, some of this stuff...

00:27:07.000 In my opinion, satanic, you know, evil mindset.

00:27:12.000 No, no, it's good. How do they explain that as a fiduciary?

00:27:16.000 Because you see the ESG thing.

00:27:17.000 You see Joe Biden using his first veto to veto the...

00:27:22.000 To opt out of ESG. To opt out of ESG. No, no.

00:27:24.000 We're going to force you to make what could arguably be a much worse financial decision for your...

00:27:31.000 For the people who you're supposed to be responsible for taking care of, they don't even care.

00:27:36.000 They're not even pretending. How do you keep doubling down?

00:27:39.000 You're scratching on some pretty big themes there, though, because if you go there, you're opening up really what's behind a lot of the craziness that's going on.

00:27:48.000 And a lot of it is you have to look at Who runs these public companies financially?

00:27:54.000 It's not the individuals there, because you're right, you know some of them.

00:27:57.000 They're not necessarily bad people, but who are pulling the strings?

00:28:00.000 And that's when you start getting into a lot of the stuff that Vivek talks about, which is this ESG. It's a cult, but it's also a very, very powerful one financially.

00:28:09.000 So if you have people that run trillions of dollars of assets, and if every public company is effectively owned by three entities, BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard, you do as they say.

00:28:18.000 But what's funny is that In many cases, a lot of the money that those folks have were from Republican states, which was crazy that it's only this awakening is happening now.

00:28:29.000 Some of these oil and gas companies, they take that to be anti-oil and gas?

00:28:33.000 I'm like, I don't understand. It's a very complicated structure that people need to understand.

00:28:37.000 It is a very, very small cabal of globalists and people who do not share America's interests.

00:28:44.000 But have a much different view of the world that are not only controlling us from a government perspective, with a global perspective, with who's there right now, but also these financial interests that also, as we've talked about in the past, operate as like Dutch East India companies.

00:29:00.000 They're transnational. They don't give a damn that they're domiciled in America.

00:29:04.000 They're globalists. Yeah, this is not a conspiracy theory.

00:29:06.000 This is just right there in front of you.

00:29:08.000 Oh, it's conspiratorial.

00:29:10.000 And by the way, like all the other conspiracy theories that have proven truth a couple months later, everyone will figure this out eventually.

00:29:15.000 But what I'm wondering is, is there ever a chance where the movement of the people who, you know, hey, maybe your 401k was invested in Disney because that was a blue chip stock and you're not handling it, you're not making those decisions every day.

00:29:27.000 I mean, that's why I think this is a great CLBR to invest in that is the option to take that on.

00:29:33.000 I mean, that's sort of what this is.

00:29:35.000 That's the most American thing you can do, to your point.

00:29:36.000 But when do those people sue and say, you're no longer...

00:29:39.000 You can, but what I'm saying is that a lot of the institutions are co-opted and corrupted.

00:29:45.000 I don't need to tell you guys that.

00:29:46.000 You know that, right? So a lot of the forms that you would use.

00:29:49.000 What I think we're proposing is actually as American as apple pie.

00:29:52.000 Some people think that if you're having a parallel economy, that's a bad thing.

00:29:56.000 Well, maybe they don't look at the fact that a lot of the actions that were taken to get us to the state came from that side, right?

00:30:02.000 What California was banning any...

00:30:04.000 You come from California. No state employee from California was allowed to travel to any red state and have that trip subsidized.

00:30:09.000 They started these actions.

00:30:11.000 We didn't. Now, the next step is, let's be clear.

00:30:14.000 COVID, one good thing that came out of it was we re-found federalism.

00:30:19.000 We should have competition among states to see who's better.

00:30:22.000 The next thing I think we need to do...

00:30:24.000 That's what Trump did. He's like, hey, I mean, that's our system.

00:30:27.000 We'll leave it to the states.

00:30:28.000 He left it to the states and see who wins.

00:30:31.000 And then if you look at the conservative states, whether it's Texas or Florida or South Dakota, they over-performed.

00:30:39.000 Businesses didn't go the same way.

00:30:41.000 People had freedoms. And you saw that leftist states did the opposite.

00:30:44.000 They were also much less reluctant to give back that assumed power back to the people because they don't actually believe in that.

00:30:51.000 Well, what was the craziest thing is it shows how significant that 2020 election was.

00:30:56.000 Because when Biden came in power and had the two chambers, the first thing they did was pass that bailout, which created inflation, but they pegged the money that they were giving to states to how high your unemployment rate was.

00:31:09.000 So if you did a crap job like Newsom or Cuomo, you got more money.

00:31:13.000 You are rewarding. Think about that. But that's like the most Democrat thing ever, right?

00:31:16.000 100%. We're going to pay you more money to stay at home than to actually go to work.

00:31:21.000 The last point I'll make on this topic is just, we just all talked about the best thing we can do is federalism, let the states play it out, and the people, as we're seeing where they're moving, you just moved to Florida from California, will vote with their feet and take their tax dollars.

00:31:36.000 The next step that we need to do is, we can't rely on the institutions that have been co-opted to save us from this anymore.

00:31:41.000 We need to be capitalists.

00:31:43.000 We need to start our own businesses.

00:31:45.000 Then and only then, when they see the trillions of dollars either being divested from those asset managers or the customers, where we're representing, start taking their dollars to other businesses, will they start normalizing the behavior.

00:31:57.000 Until that point, forget about it.

00:31:59.000 They're going to keep doing it every day.

00:32:01.000 Yeah. So, I mean, get into a little bit more details, you know, Michael.

00:32:05.000 What is, you know, being able to go public, you know, you got through the New York Stock Exchange, pretty much, I mean, record time.

00:32:13.000 And that's sort of amazing, given sort of what, you know, the SEC has done to conservative companies and all these things, the scrutiny, the this.

00:32:20.000 I mean, it's a very clean process.

00:32:23.000 You know, what's next? I mean, this is happening in basically, you know, less than two weeks.

00:32:27.000 Yeah. Yeah, the next few weeks are going to be pretty fantastic for us.

00:32:31.000 Our Redemption Day is the 17th.

00:32:33.000 And this is important because in a SPAC, the way this works is that there's a certain amount of money held in the trust, just under $200 million, right around $173 million.

00:32:42.000 And that money...

00:32:45.000 It essentially either can go on our balance sheet if you have low redemptions or it goes back to the investors that cash out if we have high redemptions.

00:32:54.000 We obviously want to see low redemptions because that's a good sign for the company that there are a lot of people that invested in CLBR that want to carry that equity over into PSQ Holdings.

00:33:05.000 Public Square. And so the goal here is that, hey, we'd love for folks to invest, to join us in CLBR, and then hold through the close of this transaction, the vote's the 19th, and the ticker changes on the 20th.

00:33:16.000 And then whoever's held on that 17th Redemption Day is money on our balance sheet that we can utilize to continue building the parallel economy, because as Don correctly noted, it's expensive to do this.

00:33:25.000 But we are fighting back with excellence.

00:33:27.000 We're putting our best foot forward.

00:33:28.000 We've hired the best talent on the planet.

00:33:30.000 And now that we can supercharge that with capital, we really believe the sky's the limit.

00:33:34.000 For us, the exciting part about going public is that we've always been accompanied by the people and for the people.

00:33:39.000 From the beginning, we didn't have any celebrities backing us.

00:33:41.000 We were just a bunch of normal people that cared enough to do something.

00:33:44.000 I had a list on a piece of paper of businesses that we knew we could support.

00:33:47.000 And that list became this incredible movement.

00:33:49.000 We used to knock on doors and ask businesses in the early days, do you agree with these values?

00:33:53.000 Would you love to join? And that's how this started.

00:33:55.000 Now, today, we have hundreds of businesses signing up from all over the place.

00:34:00.000 And what's incredible about this is that buy the people for the people is how we've grown.

00:34:04.000 Now we get to be owned by we the people.

00:34:06.000 We actually get to be an opportunity for investors to spend their money and invest their money with companies that don't hate them.

00:34:13.000 Because if you're a retail investor and you've ever put your money into anything, you can almost guarantee it's been robbed by ESG and DEI cults.

00:34:21.000 For us, though... And that's just what I'd view as just market inefficiency.

00:34:27.000 Taking your money, spending X percent of it on bad decisions to check a box, or to bring in the check box.

00:34:35.000 They check seven boxes, they're trans, this, that, and other non-profit, whatever it may be.

00:34:40.000 They're going to be the head of marketing.

00:34:41.000 Not because they're the best marketer, but because that gives them a higher ESG score, which...

00:34:48.000 Which is ridiculous. Some of those banks that went bankrupt, you remember a couple months ago, had the highest ESG score, like Silicon Valley Bank and all that stuff.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, highest ESG score. SGX had the second highest.

00:34:58.000 And it was the biggest fraud Ponzi scheme we've had in American history.

00:35:02.000 But this is what keeps happening.

00:35:04.000 Yep. But there, this goes back to the conversation we were having a little bit earlier, right?

00:35:08.000 Those are the new gatekeepers.

00:35:09.000 Those are the metrics that they abide by.

00:35:11.000 There was actually an example of a CEO recently who got paid a bonus.

00:35:14.000 Even though his stock was down 40%, he got the bonus because he hit ESG metrics.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, but if you think about that, guys, I mean, you know, and again, the problem is the average viewer here may not even know, like, again, because, like, if you're not playing in those things on a daily basis, you may not, you know, your 401k is with Joe Q, whoever is investing in it.

00:35:31.000 But, like, They're actually taking your money and putting it in these companies because this is the dominant form of these companies.

00:35:39.000 ESG matters more than shareholder value.

00:35:42.000 ESG matters more than revenue numbers.

00:35:45.000 None of that means anything, which is insane as just a capitalist.

00:35:49.000 So, I mean, actually investing in CLBR, you can do that now before it even goes public, the transactions.

00:35:58.000 I mean, that's done. It's happening on the dates that Michael mentioned.

00:36:02.000 But at least you know you're investing not only in this company, but in all of the companies that sign up that share these same values.

00:36:11.000 It's a cloud of arms. Do people want to support this?

00:36:13.000 I just see natural efficiency there.

00:36:16.000 That doesn't exist in corporate America.

00:36:17.000 Not because it shouldn't, but because there's no consequence for them to risk your retirement savings Bullshit, frankly.

00:36:26.000 Well, and you know what's interesting is that for us, it's going to be a massive actually selling point because it's our genuine feeling that ESG scores should be zero.

00:36:35.000 You shouldn't factor in the environment or social politics or diversity quotas in your hiring.

00:36:40.000 You shouldn't do this. In fact, the Supreme Court just ruled that affirmative action in universities is actually unconstitutional.

00:36:47.000 It's illegal. You shouldn't be able to do this. Because of course it is.

00:36:48.000 It should be the same in companies. The best was watching Joy Reid screaming, I only got into Harvard because of affirmative action.

00:36:55.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:57.000 That explains. She's like, I had no business getting into Harvard based on anything else.

00:37:01.000 I'm like, then maybe you shouldn't have been at Harvard.

00:37:05.000 And the fact that she doesn't understand that she's proving everyone's point in making this argument just shows how far we've fallen.

00:37:13.000 It also ruins the reputation of those schools now.

00:37:16.000 That's a funny thing, since you and I have gone to those schools, which we did, it's like, you think about our kids, like, it doesn't carry the same weight to many more like it used to.

00:37:25.000 Oh, me and I, we went to, you know, the elite universities.

00:37:28.000 But I look at them now, they're indoctrination camps.

00:37:31.000 It's almost, why would you do that?

00:37:32.000 I don't think, you know, you're not capable of having an argument, even if it's civil.

00:37:38.000 You're about 10 years younger than us, or 15 years almost.

00:37:41.000 You didn't go to one of those schools.

00:37:42.000 And look, he's about to be one of the youngest CEOs of a public company.

00:37:46.000 This is the future, actually.

00:37:47.000 Not that I learned anything, necessarily.

00:37:49.000 This is just in this generation. But that diploma got you in the door, and it was sort of a good old boys club.

00:37:54.000 That whole paradigm has changed. It's gone.

00:37:57.000 My kids were like, I want to go to that school.

00:37:58.000 I'm like, honestly, I don't think it's worth it.

00:38:01.000 By the way, I argue that for most of college, period.

00:38:03.000 Not even elite versus not elite.

00:38:05.000 I think right now, the amount of people, the amount you could learn without doing that.

00:38:09.000 I could learn everything I needed to learn in college in about four months that I learned in four years

00:38:13.000 at an elite university because of all the fluff.

00:38:16.000 But the pedigree doesn't matter anymore because of what they do every day, the acceptance.

00:38:24.000 All that.

00:38:25.000 What was this dad at Stanford?

00:38:26.000 They're like, well, you know, I think only like 10% of the incoming class was white.

00:38:31.000 And then, of course, everyone that was benefiting from affirmative action,

00:38:35.000 well, maybe it's because white people underperformed.

00:38:37.000 Maybe just one demographic, just by itself sort of magically underperforming.

00:38:41.000 Like, maybe not.

00:38:42.000 Maybe it's just like, if you could check a box and you could, you know, people,

00:38:46.000 the trans community saying, you know, I'd argue they're the most privileged group in society today.

00:38:53.000 You can't do anything.

00:38:55.000 You know, even the LGB community can't question the trans community.

00:39:01.000 It's insane. When people say that, it's funny because it's so easily disproven.

00:39:06.000 It's when you have people, especially from the white community, that feel like they now have to check the box of being one of these things in order to get to school.

00:39:14.000 I've heard this numerous times, whether people want to admit it or not.

00:39:18.000 They're just checking that box and saying, I'm non-binary or whatever they want to say.

00:39:21.000 They get into college, they're not mad at sex.

00:39:23.000 They're heterosexual again. By the way, Elizabeth Warren did this in the early days.

00:39:27.000 She checked the box of American Americans.

00:39:29.000 She was leading the charge.

00:39:33.000 Yeah, the absurdity of this.

00:39:34.000 You know, Pocahontas over there.

00:39:36.000 But, no, you saw the stat.

00:39:38.000 It was, prior to COVID, it was, I think it was basically straight white women.

00:39:45.000 50%, close to 50%.

00:39:46.000 I don't remember the exact stats, so don't fact check me.

00:39:48.000 But, like, it was something that close, you know, identified as bisexual.

00:39:52.000 Right? And then when COVID hit...

00:39:53.000 It's 20% of Gen Z. Yeah, no, when COVID, but no, but this was people that, oh, when COVID hit, Exactly 0% of that 50% actually were in a bisexual-homosexual relationship because they really weren't.

00:40:10.000 But there was actually a social pressure.

00:40:12.000 Like, you weren't cool if you weren't bisexual.

00:40:15.000 Now, you check the bisexual box.

00:40:17.000 You never actually act on it, probably because you're not.

00:40:20.000 And so it was really sort of telling.

00:40:22.000 Yeah. You ain't cool unless you're this.

00:40:26.000 And that's, again, part of the indoctrination.

00:40:27.000 They're doing this to our kids. There's the explicit reading materials in our school, the this, that, and the other.

00:40:32.000 I mean, there's no reason to teach this stuff to a three-year-old.

00:40:36.000 No, never. You know, you see with the parades.

00:40:39.000 Well, you know, it's not about kids.

00:40:40.000 Well, kids aren't allowed.

00:40:42.000 Well, then we're not putting on our parade.

00:40:43.000 Well, But I thought it wasn't about...

00:40:45.000 Wait a minute. Well, follow the money is what I like to say.

00:40:48.000 Follow the money for all this is what I encourage your viewers to do.

00:40:52.000 Follow the money behind the whole COVID scam and the whole Pfizer and Moderna joke that that was and what's happening.

00:40:59.000 That's a good short position of those two companies, quite frankly.

00:41:02.000 But go a little bit further into this contagion that's happening to our children right now,

00:41:06.000 which is very much, as you're saying, influenced by one TikTok, which is, we've talked about

00:41:11.000 this for years, a Trojan horse.

00:41:12.000 To CCP, like, just...

00:41:13.000 Trojan horse.

00:41:14.000 Look at what they show our kids to make them act this way versus their own.

00:41:17.000 And then finally...

00:41:18.000 Yeah, for those of you who don't know, the algorithm on TikTok basically rewards people

00:41:22.000 in America for acting like imbeciles, so that your children watch imbeciles and want to

00:41:26.000 emulate them.

00:41:28.000 In China, the algorithm rewards people who are doing, like, young kids who are doing,

00:41:32.000 like, physics projects so that everyone watches.

00:41:35.000 Oh, that guy's the TikTok star.

00:41:36.000 He's doing physics projects.

00:41:38.000 So, you know, they're literally trying.

00:41:41.000 And it shuts down after a few hours.

00:41:43.000 It doesn't let you stay on the app for more than a couple hours.

00:41:45.000 You can't become addicted.

00:41:47.000 You can't become this. But when you are watching, you're watching kids that are potentially rock stars in a good way, not imbeciles in a bad way.

00:41:56.000 And it's basically a big CCP psyop for the Chinese Communist Party to destroy our youth.

00:42:02.000 And by the way, it's been very effective.

00:42:03.000 You look at the suicide rates, you look at the stuff that they push as it relates to, again, the trans, non-binary nonsense.

00:42:10.000 You know, every kid grows up being confused.

00:42:12.000 They're emulating people they could never actually be like.

00:42:14.000 Not because they're actually good, but because they think that it's good because that's how they've been programmed.

00:42:19.000 I mean, they're destroying the next generation.

00:42:21.000 If you look at the pharmaceutical companies behind a lot of this, and so that's obviously what I was referring to on the COVID thing, if it wasn't explicit enough, but the fact that they're immune from any liability.

00:42:29.000 If you can create a product where there's no downstream liability, I mean, think about that for a moment.

00:42:34.000 There is no other. And then it's mandated at the same time.

00:42:37.000 You must take it regardless, and you cannot sue for any harm that comes from it.

00:42:41.000 There is no other industry that gets that.

00:42:43.000 So that's step one. But then you can even look at what's going on behind the trans craze.

00:42:48.000 There is a massive pharmaceutical movement behind that and money behind that.

00:42:53.000 Think about the fact that when they get them on puberty blockers, when they're as young as five or six years old, they have to take those drugs for their entire life.

00:43:00.000 And then you get the hospital systems involved.

00:43:02.000 And then the surgeries are another profit motive.

00:43:06.000 We've seen videos come out of certain hospitals where they're encouraged to push this stuff to generate revenue.

00:43:11.000 I mean, it is utterly sick.

00:43:12.000 And this is on children that couldn't buy a pack of cigarettes for 50 years.

00:43:16.000 They couldn't get a tin of dip.

00:43:18.000 And yet, we're going to put you on lifelong things.

00:43:22.000 You're going to make a permanent decision at 5 or 3.

00:43:26.000 It's insane. To bring it back to Public Square, because you're the antithesis of all that.

00:43:33.000 Is there another company on not just the New York Stock Exchange, but probably any of the exchanges that is even like this?

00:43:39.000 You know, very few. What I will say is that Our buddies at Rumble, which we're on right now, they went public via SPAC, just like we did, and they're on the NASDAQ, though, not New York Stocks.

00:43:48.000 Yeah, they're NASDAQ. That may be one of a few free speech.

00:43:52.000 So there's two out of hundreds.

00:43:53.000 There are two out of there. There aren't a ton.

00:43:56.000 And there are a few cool ETFs that are trying to push back against the woke capital.

00:44:01.000 But people need a company that they feel like they can follow the life cycle, can join them on the journey, especially with something like Public Tour, when you're an actual consumer or a business to own the platform that you are hosting on.

00:44:11.000 That's pretty cool.

00:44:12.000 And there's a question that a lot of people ask us, and it's a good one, which is, well, if you're going public, can't you be controlled by the Black Rocks?

00:44:19.000 That's actually a really good point. Because this was a concern of mine.

00:44:22.000 I'm like, wait a minute. If you're starting off and you're a small company, they see the threat.

00:44:26.000 It's cheaper for these multi...

00:44:29.000 Billion, almost trillion dollar corporations.

00:44:31.000 I'm just going to buy it all and control it, and then I take out my threat while pretending they're happy to take your money.

00:44:38.000 They'll let you play a little bit, but never actually become a threat.

00:44:40.000 What do you do to combat that?

00:44:42.000 Yeah, you know what? Actually, we learned a lot from Rumble.

00:44:45.000 Chris Pavlovsky had a special class of voting shares that ensured that he had a majority of control of the company, even if he didn't financially own a majority.

00:44:51.000 So even if Alex Soros came in and bought 90% of the company...

00:44:56.000 Chris would still be in control.

00:44:58.000 And so Alex can't call a shareholder vote.

00:44:59.000 He can't elect board members. He can't have any direction in where the company goes.

00:45:02.000 And we're actually employing a similar tactic at the close of this transaction.

00:45:06.000 So assuming the shareholders vote in favor on the 19th, ticker changes on the 20th, I will actually retain majority voting control as long as I own over 50% of my position in perpetuity.

00:45:17.000 So for the life cycle of this entire company.

00:45:20.000 I'm keeping my position.

00:45:21.000 This is the thing I pour my life into.

00:45:24.000 Michael believes this stuff.

00:45:27.000 When I invested with them and everything like that, this is not...

00:45:31.000 Where we are is incredible because I think other people see what's going on, but you were content doing this and starting this movement literally out of your kitchen because you were sick of what was going on in lockdowns.

00:45:41.000 You'd go to a coffee shop and you couldn't take down your mask to make an order without getting lectured.

00:45:46.000 It was like, enough of this.

00:45:48.000 You know, that's what's awesome.

00:45:49.000 It's real and it's organic.

00:45:51.000 And again, I mentioned earlier sort of the level of talent of people.

00:45:54.000 You know, your chief marketing officers coming out of, you know, big, big places.

00:45:59.000 The guy setting up the digital behind the scenes.

00:46:01.000 It's like, wait a minute, how does a small company, even before this transaction, how did you get that guy?

00:46:06.000 Well, that guy actually believes as much as Michael does.

00:46:09.000 And he took a pay cut to come do this because I think he understands what's going on at Woe Corporate and also the threat to that for the future.

00:46:17.000 Yep. And that one gentleman you're specifically referencing, he's got six kids.

00:46:21.000 So he's like, if I don't fight back now, what future am I leaving for my kids?

00:46:24.000 You seem like an underperformer, I feel like.

00:46:26.000 He does set them up.

00:46:27.000 Yeah, I'm like, wait a minute, I got five.

00:46:29.000 I thought I was doing pretty good.

00:46:31.000 They're going after that baby bonus on our staff.

00:46:33.000 Right, exactly. But, you know, he took a massive pay cut from a major corporate entity.

00:46:38.000 And he's a perfect example of someone who's putting his money where his mouth is and said that it's too important to spend my day working for companies.

00:46:46.000 You've got great friends at Red Balloon.

00:46:48.000 They're friends of ours as well.

00:46:50.000 Red Balloon's trying to fight this on the job front side, trying to connect employers.

00:46:53.000 Yeah, that's a job board. So, you know, if you're looking to...

00:46:55.000 Again, if you're a small business and you're looking to hire, go check out RedBalloon at redballoon.work because I think the most disastrous thing, and Omid, you've seen this happen a bunch, is a bad hire.

00:47:06.000 You don't even have to be overtly conservative.

00:47:10.000 You could just be a freedom-loving business.com.

00:47:13.000 You hire some woke leftists because you're not screening for the insanity,

00:47:17.000 and they're suing you over this.

00:47:19.000 You say Merry Christmas instead of Happy Holidays, and you're going to jail, and this person owns your company.

00:47:24.000 Or just puts you in a lawsuit that you've got to...

00:47:27.000 The problem with BS is you still have to defend BS.

00:47:31.000 That hiring process and that HR back-of-house, because so much of that has been corrupted and gone woke,

00:47:38.000 that's sort of an alternative as well.

00:47:40.000 Red Balloon, we work with them for that, but if you're that small business, check that out because that's a part of this bigger picture.

00:47:48.000 Well, I was just going to say to close our point, too, this is why it's so important that we keep the mission of this pure, because we're building this entire economic ecosystem.

00:47:56.000 And so we've always said from the beginning, and I've said this with no hesitation, if I had to choose between compromising our mission, but it led to success, or failure, but we stay true to the mission...

00:48:08.000 I'm always choosing staying true to the mission.

00:48:10.000 Because what the world needs right now is genuine expressions from entrepreneurs that actually believe this stuff.

00:48:17.000 That actually want to go after...

00:48:18.000 Because, by the way, the ESG cultists, they don't even really believe what they're saying.

00:48:21.000 They're doing it like you said. It's ridiculous!

00:48:23.000 They're pulling the strings. No one with an IQ of above, let's call it, into the double digits, even barely, actually thinks that matters.

00:48:31.000 It's like when I watch the military guys.

00:48:33.000 Diversity is our strength in our military.

00:48:35.000 It's like, I don't know, like... How about strength is our strength if you're trying to win a war?

00:48:39.000 Maybe that's why we haven't exactly overperformed lately.

00:48:44.000 I don't think they actually believe it, but there's no consequence for them saying it.

00:48:48.000 There's actually rewards, right?

00:48:50.000 If you're on the left, you can lie to Congress.

00:48:52.000 You can do these kinds of things. What side would you guys have been on when certain horrible things were happening in history?

00:48:57.000 Everybody wants to say they were going to fight the Nazis if they were in Germany.

00:49:00.000 It's easy to say, oh, if that would have happened if slavery was happening, I would 100% have been able to.

00:49:04.000 Would you? Because when things are going one way, I've seen a lot of sheep.

00:49:08.000 I haven't seen a lot of people taking the other side of stuff.

00:49:11.000 It's usually people that are so confident and quick to say that they'd be an abolitionist that they'd actually just be part of the sheep.

00:49:17.000 And that's the people that let you know.

00:49:18.000 Well, I think COVID was the greatest sort of...

00:49:19.000 Exactly. That's the point.

00:49:21.000 What better example in modernity?

00:49:23.000 Oh, I really believe in freedom, but do you really?

00:49:25.000 Yeah, not at all. And show how easy it was for them.

00:49:28.000 And that should be a cautionary tale.

00:49:29.000 And that's why the private sector, again, is the last battlefield.

00:49:33.000 It's the area we are farthest behind.

00:49:36.000 It's the area where we have to make up the most ground in the fastest.

00:49:39.000 And it's the area, based on technology, that they're going to attack first.

00:49:43.000 This is the part that they're going to try to de-platform people.

00:49:46.000 They'll first take away your speech, and then they'll take away your liberty by de-platforming you off the financial system as well.

00:49:52.000 This is already happening in China.

00:49:54.000 People need to understand that.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, talk about the social credit score.

00:49:57.000 We talk about it generally.

00:49:58.000 This is another thing that's not...

00:50:00.000 It's aided by AI. It's getting worse.

00:50:04.000 It's getting worse. Yeah, there is a show called Black Mirror that came out almost seven or eight years ago, I think, on Netflix.

00:50:12.000 It's not as good anymore, but if you look at the ones from seven or eight years ago, it's almost like they knew what was going to happen.

00:50:18.000 They have one episode that it's pretty...

00:50:21.000 Pretty telling now. It was seven or eight years ago.

00:50:24.000 It was basically like the person would walk around and you could rate them based on the interaction.

00:50:29.000 So, like, if you were nice to me, you would get five stars.

00:50:31.000 But then that, if you were rude, I'd give you zero stars.

00:50:35.000 That would then affect how much money you can make.

00:50:37.000 That would affect whether or not you could go take a loan or get a car.

00:50:40.000 And it was meant to be kind of like satirical, but it was really like a warning.

00:50:44.000 Like, that's where we're headed.

00:50:45.000 And that was taking the way people act online, which is so scared of cancellation and doing all the virtue signaling to be accepted, which is now manifested into our real world.

00:50:56.000 And that's effectively the basis of a social credit score, which is you must behave exactly the way the regime wants you to.

00:51:03.000 Otherwise, we will inhibit your ability to make a living.

00:51:06.000 And that's ESG. That is ESG. That is where we're headed with that.

00:51:09.000 We're already there. China's ahead of us.

00:51:11.000 You know, I had an interesting conversation with Palmer Luckey, you know, sort of one of the few conservative, you know, believers in tech, you know, young, you know, teenage billionaire, founded Oculus, sold it to Facebook.

00:51:22.000 They threw him off his board because he was, you know, had a dissenting opinion.

00:51:26.000 But he was talking about AI with me, and this is five, six years ago, before everyone even, sort of, now it's everywhere, and you've got ChatGTP and all that insanity.

00:51:34.000 Of course, that's also biased and swayed and liberal and gone insane.

00:51:39.000 But he talked about it, and he goes, you know, China's so into this because At any other time in history, you could have a revolution because a guy like you and me and the three of us, we could get together as we did with this.

00:51:50.000 And plot a bit of a resistance at least.

00:51:54.000 But now, there's a video camera over there that sees you talking with this guy.

00:51:58.000 One false word and they're on you and they're able to crush Did you hear about Amazon shutting down a house because someone said the wrong thing?

00:52:07.000 No, he didn't even say the wrong thing.

00:52:08.000 The guy wasn't even home. He misinterpreted him in an Uber, right?

00:52:10.000 The driver thought he heard him say something, which was just nonsense.

00:52:13.000 And then the smart homes shut it down. And they just shut down the home.

00:52:16.000 You don't think that's going to happen to your test list?

00:52:17.000 I mean, of course, yeah. I like, you know, certainly Twitter 2.0 is better than 1.0.

00:52:22.000 You saw also last week, Elon Musk is signing on the pledge to believe in Communist China's socialist core values.

00:52:30.000 Yeah. Because, you know, he's got a huge multi-billion dollar company that's entirely dependent on the rare earth minerals, the batteries, all the components that go into that car.

00:52:41.000 If he doesn't sign off on that, so a guy that can be out there for free speech is still controlled by China.

00:52:47.000 And this is what they would like.

00:52:48.000 And honestly, guys, our left...

00:52:51.000 Is not that different.

00:52:53.000 If they could implement that right now, amass that level of power, shut down your beliefs, shut down your speech, shut down your freedom, shut down your Second Amendment, they would.

00:53:02.000 You know how I know this? Because they're saying it every day.

00:53:06.000 They have become, and again, as you know, I mean, we talked about this.

00:53:10.000 I used to be a Democrat when I was younger.

00:53:12.000 This party that, you know, has become the party that I don't even recognize has become the party of censorship and war.

00:53:18.000 And Kennedy says that all the time, who's also, you know, similarly situated like I am.

00:53:22.000 He's a pro-liberty, pro-American person.

00:53:24.000 That's what I care about, liberty and the country.

00:53:27.000 And if you feel that way, how can you be comfortable with how comfortable they are with censorship, which is the foundation, you know, being against censorship is the foundation of being an American.

00:53:36.000 And you see that the judge just on July 4th actually told the Biden administration to refrain from continuing their interactions with all these tech companies that they had clearly been doing and we knew about from the Twitter files that this is how we started the conversation.

00:53:51.000 I actually had Jeff Landry on Thursday.

00:53:54.000 He's a good friend.

00:53:56.000 He's a hunting buddy. He's the attorney general in Louisiana.

00:53:58.000 That started that case.

00:54:00.000 And it's always about, again, how are we fighting back?

00:54:02.000 You guys may want to just hear the inner workings of that show because it's really interesting.

00:54:06.000 And watching the Democrats, what do you mean the government can't basically call Facebook and tell them to shut this down?

00:54:12.000 They did it to Tucker. They did it to Tucker.

00:54:15.000 They artificially boosted Fauci's lies.

00:54:18.000 They covered up when you caught him in a lie.

00:54:20.000 They were doing all of these things to manipulate the science.

00:54:24.000 Because again, Fauci said X on TV, but he said the opposite of X to his colleagues in emails.

00:54:31.000 So, like, both...

00:54:32.000 The opposite can't be true at the same time.

00:54:34.000 And Fauci was saying, take down these people, get them out.

00:54:37.000 We have the emails from the FOIA request where he's saying to go attack the people in the Great Barrington Declaration, a lot of them who were my friends, these epidemiologists, these scientists that had great credentials that were trying to give a different perspective.

00:54:49.000 He's telling them to basically shut them down.

00:54:51.000 That is a violation as a federal...

00:54:52.000 Well, beyond the fact that he used, you know, hey, you want funding from, you know, NIH? That's...

00:54:58.000 Guess what? You better come in line.

00:54:59.000 It was like, but I don't agree. Doesn't matter.

00:55:01.000 You're not doing the funding. This is the science, but it's wrong.

00:55:03.000 Here's proof. No funding. In what world wasn't the leak from Wuhan lab?

00:55:07.000 One question. Of course it was, but if you said that, you were out of academia.

00:55:11.000 This is my new thing whenever I'm on a platform.

00:55:12.000 How is Fauci rich? Yeah.

00:55:15.000 Why does he have over, on the disclosure I've seen, over $10 million of cash?

00:55:19.000 How did he do that?

00:55:20.000 How do you get that rich if you're in government for 50 years, for half a century on the salary?

00:55:24.000 Even though he was the highest paid employee, it was still about $500,000.

00:55:27.000 Still the math doesn't work.

00:55:29.000 How did you get that cash?

00:55:31.000 Right? How do you get that cash?

00:55:33.000 How do you become that rich when you work in half a century?

00:55:36.000 That's my point. That is what's so insane to me, which means that the corruption is so much deeper than you imagine.

00:55:42.000 It's the same thing with COVID. It's the reason why we didn't do a proper investigation of it is because there are people in this country that are partly responsible for it.

00:55:49.000 So that is the issue we have.

00:55:51.000 It's that we have...

00:55:53.000 This cabal of people in the United States who are not loyal to America but are loyal to foreign powers like the CCP and are completely in bed with them.

00:56:02.000 So you never get honest investigations because a lot of people who could control those investigations are in cahoots with them.

00:56:08.000 And this is like the most, again, it's not like this is conspiratorial.

00:56:12.000 It's right in front of you.

00:56:13.000 It's obvious. You should be able to have a dialogue.

00:56:16.000 And maybe even if you're wrong about that opinion, at least maybe the conversation leads you to another result as opposed to this is the gospel, you must believe it, you must fall in line, and that's it.

00:56:27.000 Shut up and take your shot.

00:56:29.000 Don't ask any questions about it.

00:56:31.000 And all of the companies, I mean not all, but so many of the companies that are on Public Square right now, they experience that.

00:56:36.000 Yeah. And they said, you know, enough.

00:56:38.000 Or they were getting crushed in their local municipalities.

00:56:40.000 Like I said, you started in San Diego.

00:56:42.000 I mean, San Diego is maybe a little...

00:56:43.000 It's conservative for California.

00:56:46.000 But it's still California.

00:56:47.000 But, you know, there's a hunger out there for this.

00:56:50.000 And... And there's no market.

00:56:52.000 No one's even willing to step out of their box.

00:56:56.000 Even the woke companies, they love your money as a conservative, but they're not going to actually publicly support something like this.

00:57:02.000 So I think it's such an incredible opportunity.

00:57:04.000 I mean, you talked about, Michael, because people who would be interested in perhaps investing, I guess, You talked about, hey, you figured out how to maintain control, right?

00:57:13.000 You're right. The Soros-funded guy can't stroke a check for a couple hundred million dollars and now he controls your company and will pretend to let you play but never allow you to actually grow or maximize shareholder value or whatever it may be.

00:57:25.000 Are you ever worried about cancellation in any other way or does it actually just make you stronger at this point because you're actually fighting back and our people care about actually fighting back?

00:57:32.000 That's a great question. We certainly in the early days, and still today, but definitely when we were starting, wanted to make sure that we mitigated as much of the cancellation risk as possible.

00:57:41.000 So we vetted all the vendors we partnered with for all of our own kind of SaaS tooling.

00:57:46.000 We actually, in the early days, made sure that as we were...

00:57:50.000 Securing some of these foundational partnerships and contracts for different services that we needed to utilize for the growth of our own business that they actually said explicitly, we will not cancel you based upon negative reputation for your political views.

00:58:02.000 We also asked very difficult questions of some of these folks.

00:58:05.000 We, in the early days, were threatened to be canceled by our own bank.

00:58:09.000 They said, hey, we're a little concerned about this conservative thing.

00:58:10.000 I've dealt with that as well. You did, just recently.

00:58:13.000 Exactly. We don't want your business.

00:58:15.000 I'm like, We thought someone stole three quarters of a million dollars out of our bank account.

00:58:19.000 It was like, oh yeah, we forgot to tell you that we just don't want your money.

00:58:22.000 I'm like, what did we do?

00:58:23.000 We're not creating news.

00:58:24.000 We're literally just aggregating everything.

00:58:26.000 Purely because of your political views. That's it.

00:58:27.000 And for us, so we said, you know what?

00:58:29.000 We're going to bank with a bank that we found on our own app.

00:58:31.000 So that's who we bank with, Axos Bank.

00:58:33.000 So, you know, for us, we've tried to mitigate as much of the cancellation risk as possible.

00:58:37.000 And also on top of that, we do feel like any time that we've been hit, any time anybody's tried to attack us, you know, obviously we've never had a successful cyber attack or anything like that against us.

00:58:46.000 We've got an incredible team led by a great CISO. But when people attack us in the press or when they try to encourage our cancellation or when they try to encourage the cancellation of the business vendors on our platform, what's pretty incredible to witness is that we've built an army now.

00:59:00.000 We have such strength in numbers that...

00:59:03.000 We intimidate them more than they intimidate us.

00:59:06.000 We're actually proactively pushing back.

00:59:08.000 We had a business in Chicago where there was a group of left-wing activists that were saying, this business is on Public Square.

00:59:15.000 We should go there and we should protest in front of this business because they're anti-trans and all this stuff.

00:59:19.000 Well, we were organized a rally at the business where we would pay for the first 500 patrons' meals.

00:59:26.000 So when we had a mass drive of consumers to that business, there were like five protesters from the other side.

00:59:32.000 They stood down. The media will always, you know, they get down low and they get a camera angle.

00:59:36.000 So they did it to me with my dad one time.

00:59:38.000 We were in Scotland. We were building a golf course.

00:59:40.000 And, you know, I look at the picture in the media and it looked like there was this rally because they get down low and there's two people and a sign.

00:59:48.000 That's all it was. It was two people in a sign.

00:59:50.000 But they make it seem like these are the people and they're, you know, no one.

00:59:53.000 It was just totally artificially created.

00:59:55.000 And that's, I'm glad you mentioned Chicago's.

00:59:57.000 We did that when we were at CPAC. You know, we get to CPAC, we're like, hey, we had a sort of an interesting dinner.

01:00:03.000 You know. Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nigel Farage, you know, all these conservatives were like, where can we go in D.C. where we're not...

01:00:11.000 So we got on Public Square.

01:00:12.000 We found an incredible restaurant there.

01:00:14.000 We went there and they were like, oh, we'd love to have you.

01:00:16.000 It was like last minute. Can we get a table for 20?

01:00:18.000 It was Kim's birthday. It was amazing.

01:00:21.000 And like... It was awesome.

01:00:23.000 And we had an incredible experience.

01:00:25.000 So it's not just about finding a business that shares your values in a red state.

01:00:30.000 It's actually, and perhaps even more so, about finding them in those blue states where those businesses still exist, where those people still exist, where those values Again, values that would at no other time in American history be even remotely controversial, just like being pro-America.

01:00:46.000 It's in those places.

01:00:48.000 If you're traveling for business and you end up in Chicago, go on the Public Square app, find that business.

01:00:53.000 Go there. Coffee shops could be catty-corner.

01:00:57.000 Don't give it to Starbucks who's funding the crap that you hate.

01:01:01.000 For two seconds. You're going to search anyway, wherever it is.

01:01:04.000 Like, find that business on Public Square and go there.

01:01:06.000 It's that simple. And that's how, I mean, again, that's the difference between, we touched on it earlier, just sort of being on the defense.

01:01:14.000 We're going to do the boycott.

01:01:15.000 Again, great, but this is taking it to the next level.

01:01:18.000 Now we're actually going on the offense.

01:01:21.000 Yeah. That's exactly right.

01:01:23.000 No, I mean, it is, and it feels good.

01:01:25.000 I mean, I just have to say, like, I've just been so impressed with the adoption, and I think he kind of referenced it, but I want to put a finer point on it.

01:01:31.000 And, you know, as someone who's in the financial community, you look at these businesses and you have to compare them.

01:01:35.000 That's one of the things we do is a comp analysis, basically.

01:01:37.000 And from a historical perspective, I just want to hone in again on the fact that he has over 1.1 million registered users already on this app.

01:01:45.000 That's the customers that sign up.

01:01:47.000 It's not just hit the website.

01:01:49.000 They give their demographic information, their email, their website.

01:01:52.000 And again, in historical context, they reached that metric under 11 months of being national.

01:01:59.000 That's faster than Twitter, Airbnb, Spotify.

01:02:02.000 Think about that. Put that in context.

01:02:04.000 And you compare. That's basically Facebook-level growth.

01:02:07.000 So what that means is if we think there's at least 100 million people out there, already, just in a few months, we've already gotten 1% of that.

01:02:15.000 I mean, it is game on once we're out there.

01:02:17.000 And what I'm so excited about is the symbolic importance Of all three of us, amongst our other friends, to be up there on the 20th ringing the bell of the New York Stock Exchange.

01:02:29.000 That's kind of like, you know, I was telling them it looks like the deplorables are storming the gates here.

01:02:32.000 I don't think they ever thought that you guys would be up there ringing the New York Stock Exchange bell, but it makes me very, very personally happy that I helped facilitate that.

01:02:42.000 Yeah, and listen, there's so much more.

01:02:44.000 I mean, for those investing, I mean, you know, Michael, the precautions you've taken, we talked about cancellation, just, you know, a protest.

01:02:50.000 But even, you know, not being dependent on, like, Amazon Web Services, you know, where they say, yeah, build your own, build your own, you're off.

01:02:58.000 Talk about some of the protections that people, again, if they're looking to invest, the steps you've taken there to make sure that you're on your own.

01:03:07.000 If big tech decides they don't like you anymore, it actually doesn't matter.

01:03:11.000 You're independent of that. Well, yeah, that's a great question.

01:03:15.000 We've had a lot of steps toward redundancy on the back end for our infrastructure, which has been incredibly important.

01:03:21.000 And we applaud the companies in this space that we are in conversations with, like Rumble, that are absolutely crushing it in the cloud architecture world.

01:03:28.000 And obviously with their SPAC and the capital that they were able to infuse into the growth of the company, they're able to make leaps and bounds toward that aim of becoming a totally uncancellable ecosystem.

01:03:37.000 And that's the same thing we're trying to do at Public Square.

01:03:39.000 We want to make sure that from the very foundational elements of our company, To the very top, we have security that is giving consumers and businesses alike a real sense of assurance that they're not going to get screwed because we get screwed.

01:03:52.000 Plus, on top of that, you know, the other thing is that the companies that have been canceled largely in the past have been very social-oriented for speech.

01:03:59.000 And we're a little different given that we're commerce.

01:04:01.000 You know, you don't really speak on the app.

01:04:03.000 You just shop on the app.

01:04:04.000 And that helps us to a degree because there's very little...

01:04:09.000 Parameters around issues with the First Amendment that the authoritarians hate in society.

01:04:15.000 It's harder to criticize shopping because it's the most foundational element that we all kind of do throughout a day.

01:04:20.000 You wouldn't survive unless you can shop for goods to some degree, right?

01:04:25.000 Which, by the way, why the social credit score is so dangerous is because they want to shut off your access to shopping if you don't agree with their political views.

01:04:31.000 So we want to make sure that for us as a company, when we exercise our rights in the marketplace, To source our own services, and then for our consumers to do that through our services, it's incredibly important.

01:04:42.000 By the way, one last point on this.

01:04:44.000 One of the neatest parts about this ecosystem we've created is the relationships that are taking place between our businesses.

01:04:50.000 So we have businesses that have said, I'm getting screwed by Salesforce.

01:04:54.000 Mark Benioff has called himself the most anti-conservative CEO in the country.

01:04:59.000 What are we supposed to do with that?

01:05:00.000 We need a solution. I think he owns Time Magazine, by the way.

01:05:04.000 Probably. No, I'm not kidding.

01:05:06.000 It's like Bezos owns the Washington Post.

01:05:08.000 It's not political, it's journalism.

01:05:10.000 No, it's a propaganda wing of Amazon.

01:05:13.000 And who owns the Atlantic? It's Jobs' widow, who's obviously a complete leftist.

01:05:17.000 People need to just, and I'm going to keep doing this throughout this interview as I have, just sprinkle things in here.

01:05:23.000 Because not enough people know who's really controlling a lot of what you digest.

01:05:27.000 Right. And you consume.

01:05:28.000 And we've got to make sure that the three of us are getting that information out there at every step of the way.

01:05:32.000 Because it'll start making things look clearer once you understand that.

01:05:35.000 And that's why it's important, guys. Like, share, this kind of content.

01:05:38.000 Again, I'll ask Omid, tell us if they're interested.

01:05:42.000 Because, again, you can invest.

01:05:43.000 And when I say invest, it doesn't have to be seven-figure checks.

01:05:46.000 That's not what we're talking about.

01:05:48.000 Talk about how to do that, what that process looks like.

01:05:51.000 Because, again, a lot of people may not even know, but they're like, hey, I like this idea.

01:05:56.000 And it's different.

01:05:57.000 It's different. So, it's in the context of the way markets work in the United States.

01:06:01.000 So, what I do most of the time is invest privately.

01:06:04.000 However, in order to invest privately, you have to be what's called an accredited investor.

01:06:08.000 And you guys know about that.

01:06:10.000 You have to have a certain amount of income and there's a threshold.

01:06:12.000 And so, when a company stays private, that means it can't really get to the people.

01:06:17.000 And so, that is kind of why When I talked to Michael about this, he said to me the most important thing is I want my relative that's a truck driver to be able to own my company.

01:06:28.000 And he can't do that right now.

01:06:30.000 That's actually how the conversation started when we first met.

01:06:33.000 That was one of the first things he said to me that appealed to him, is that we want to democratize capital markets.

01:06:39.000 We haven't done that.

01:06:40.000 The capital markets of America belong to each and every one of us.

01:06:43.000 Everybody watching this show, it's yours too, but we haven't done anything with them.

01:06:48.000 So part of doing this is to go out there and allow anybody.

01:06:52.000 So a lot of folks have gone out and donated, you know, $5, $10 to your dad and other important political figures, and that's great.

01:06:59.000 Now we're giving another opportunity, which is if you're concerned about commerce, you can do $5, $10 and go buy a stock and own a company that you care about and be a part of it.

01:07:08.000 And that's really different.

01:07:10.000 And it's, I think, really exciting because it's another element for people to be able to, as you guys said, play offense.

01:07:18.000 For them, if they have an Ameritrade account or something like that, any one of those accounts, you can go and CLBR. Yeah, that's what it is.

01:07:24.000 Buy a share. Hold it. You can do it, yeah.

01:07:26.000 And then you hold it through the, if you're inclined to support, you hold it through next week, and then you automatically own Public Square.

01:07:34.000 It's pretty cool. So that's how you go out and you support that.

01:07:38.000 And I just think that's part, that's really what this was always about, was how do we create another movement Within commerce this time.

01:07:48.000 That people can all participate in.

01:07:50.000 There was no other way to do this.

01:07:51.000 And I think it's only the beginning, quite frankly, because other people are going to see this successful transaction and what we're doing here and want to take part in it.

01:07:59.000 We can't only have two listed companies, Rumble and Public Square, that represent half the country.

01:08:04.000 But I'm happy to open that floodgate.

01:08:06.000 Yes, and you guys are doing that.

01:08:08.000 I was one of the earliest guys on Rumble as well.

01:08:10.000 I believe in this stuff.

01:08:12.000 I think I was the second verified user on Rumble.

01:08:16.000 And look at where that's come. It's such an important platform, what you guys are doing.

01:08:19.000 It's been great. Again, you can choose where you spend your money.

01:08:24.000 It's not just about the boycott, but actually, take the time.

01:08:27.000 Download the PublicSquare app.

01:08:29.000 You can go online and just go to PublicSquare.com.

01:08:31.000 C. Find those businesses.

01:08:35.000 Support those businesses.

01:08:36.000 You can invest in CLBR right now.

01:08:38.000 That'll flip over to PSQ in a little over a week.

01:08:43.000 It's going to be...

01:08:44.000 This is the forefront.

01:08:46.000 This is actually the, hey, what can we do?

01:08:48.000 This is it. It's not just stop supporting XYZ. Post a meme.

01:08:54.000 You can actually... Listen, that's big.

01:08:56.000 I like memes. Who likes memes more than me?

01:09:00.000 Who likes memes more than me?

01:09:02.000 But you can actually now be proactive.

01:09:05.000 And so we're taking it into the next evolution.

01:09:07.000 We're combating that cancel culture with not just cancellation, but actually an offensive movement.

01:09:12.000 And that's what I look at this as. You know, there's basically, I think, you know, three big buckets as people think about it.

01:09:18.000 One in this new economy that we're all talking about.

01:09:21.000 I call it EIG, which is Entrepreneurship, Innovation, and Growth.

01:09:24.000 And other people call it the Patriot Economy.

01:09:25.000 It doesn't matter to me. It means the same thing.

01:09:27.000 It's basically three buckets. It's companies like Public Square that are going to replicate and give you great products that are patriotic and care about this country.

01:09:37.000 That's bucket one. Bucket two is we all know that globalization has gone too far.

01:09:41.000 We've got to bring things back onshore.

01:09:43.000 We've got to look at companies that are going to make sure national security is at the forefront.

01:09:47.000 And we don't have China cornering the lithium market like you mentioned.

01:09:50.000 And bucket three is they're amazing businesses.

01:09:53.000 That can't get any financing, whether they're in ammunition or coal, that are super, super great businesses, but they can't even get loans from banks because that's how much this is permeated through our economy.

01:10:05.000 Great businesses with great bottom lines can't get a couple million dollars from a bank to loan.

01:10:10.000 And so that's the state of the state.

01:10:12.000 People should know that because, as you pointed out, a lot of this stuff is in the background, but it's there.

01:10:16.000 That's why I think I like to say this to Michael.

01:10:20.000 ESG was a scam, but it became a multi-trillion dollar scam.

01:10:22.000 And it started around 2010 or 2011.

01:10:25.000 We right now are at the top of the first of this movement.

01:10:28.000 Maybe even spring training, as Michael likes to say.

01:10:30.000 So we are at the ground floor of something that is going to make ESG look like a joke.

01:10:36.000 And that's how exciting this is.

01:10:37.000 I think that's the incredible opportunity.

01:10:39.000 I think there's the incredible sort of investment opportunity because you are at the forefront of it.

01:10:43.000 Because it is so opposite of everything that's out there.

01:10:45.000 Because there is... Such a big market, half the country, maybe more, who's literally not only not been catered to, but has borderline been ostracized, left out in the nuts.

01:10:55.000 So, I think it's an incredible opportunity there, but it's also a chance to, again, you can give your money to Jeff Bezos or Schultz over at Starbucks, and they will take that money and donate millions and millions of dollars to Democrats that hate your guts, to woke causes that would put you in the gulags, or Or you can support a small business, even de facto this way, through the public markets and put their kid through soccer practice.

01:11:24.000 You know what I mean? You're supporting American small business, the American family.

01:11:29.000 It's just the antithesis of everything else that's out there.

01:11:32.000 And what I love about it, again, I'm a big investor myself, because no one else is even doing it.

01:11:37.000 I know. It's shocking, but that's how perverted that mindset has gotten, that people...

01:11:44.000 We can't cater to half the country.

01:11:46.000 As a businessman, wouldn't it be amazing to you that you could start a company that would have...

01:11:50.000 I want a monopoly on half the country that no one else wants to touch.

01:11:55.000 I can do fine with that.

01:11:57.000 By the way, one other thing I don't think we've talked about that you might want to mention is, like, obviously we're...

01:12:02.000 You know, some political involvement on this panel here, but this is not just a political app.

01:12:07.000 Can you talk a little bit about maybe the culture and the sports and how this is a transcendent movement?

01:12:12.000 There's like a whole set of people that are like kind of like Rogan viewers.

01:12:15.000 They're not, you know, Well, you did a great job of that this week.

01:12:19.000 I mean, today, you actually hosted a course, a thing that was going to happen at one of our golf courses.

01:12:24.000 Right, so I'll actually talk about all that stuff.

01:12:26.000 Yeah, that's actually a great point.

01:12:27.000 So Jordan Poyer, one of the best defensive players in the NFL with the Buffalo Bills, he came under fire because he was hosting a golf tournament, celebrity golf tournament.

01:12:37.000 All these incredible stars and athletes were going to be there.

01:12:39.000 And they were hosting the golf tournament for charity, by the way.

01:12:42.000 For a hospital. For a hospital in New York.

01:12:47.000 At the golf course in Doral, in Miami.

01:12:52.000 It's only one of the best golf courses anywhere in the world.

01:12:55.000 We'd be so honored and privileged to be able to play there, and especially when it supports a good cause.

01:13:00.000 Well, the left came under fire and said that you're a racist and you're all these awful things because you're

01:13:04.000 hosting this that trumped her out, which is absurd on its face, but

01:13:07.000 Unfortunately, it got so bad that the sponsors had to pull out and so Jordan was like guys

01:13:12.000 We got to cancel the tournament But when we heard about that, we got in touch with his

01:13:16.000 people We started talking to Jordan and said man, it really feels

01:13:19.000 like the show needs to go back on We cannot let them win

01:13:22.000 And he was so aligned to that.

01:13:23.000 And so we actually announced that we would be the title sponsor.

01:13:26.000 We would bring the tournament back with him.

01:13:28.000 And so today we hosted this incredible golf tournament at Trump Doral.

01:13:33.000 And it was amazing.

01:13:35.000 Celebrities from all different aspects of culture coming together to support this incredible cause and send a very loud and clear message, which is that do not let this tiny fraction of society, whom their bark is way more intense than their bite, Do not let them threaten you into silence.

01:13:50.000 That's what they want you to do. They want you to be silent.

01:13:52.000 They want to intimidate you into just sitting down and shutting up.

01:13:55.000 Proud of Jordan. Proud of all these people that are standing up and saying, no, no, no.

01:13:58.000 Enough is enough. And we're really proud to put our money behind heroes like that.

01:14:02.000 And to Amit's point, this has massive ramifications for culture, for sports, for entertainment.

01:14:09.000 We actually had a racing team, Rick Ware Racing, it was a NASCAR racing team back in the spring

01:14:13.000 in April.

01:14:14.000 They actually gave us a free car to wrap.

01:14:17.000 JJ Yelly, an incredible driver, gave us a free car to wrap because he said, I just want

01:14:21.000 to support drivers, or I just want to support companies on my car when I'm driving that

01:14:25.000 love this country and love liberty.

01:14:27.000 And so we've seen that happen in action sports as well.

01:14:30.000 We have incredible athletes that have joined us and that we're partnering with as influencers, country music stars that aren't even known for being expressly political.

01:14:38.000 Ray Lynn, who's an amazing up-and-coming country star, has been one of our fiercest advocates and incredible influencers.

01:14:44.000 So we're just witnessing how this thing really is far more of a principled movement than it is just a momentary political drive.

01:14:51.000 And I'll finish with this. We just celebrated July 4th last week, and our country celebrated its 248th birthday.

01:14:57.000 The average life cycle of a civilization, a nation-state, is about 250 years.

01:15:01.000 That's what many historians believe.

01:15:02.000 So we have a choice to make. We've got two years left, and then we're going to have a presentation in front of us.

01:15:07.000 Do we want to beat the averages and see another 250 years of prosperity for the United States?

01:15:11.000 Or are we going to let this woke nonsense destroy our incredible nation?

01:15:16.000 We're going to choose the former.

01:15:18.000 We want another 250 years.

01:15:19.000 The way you do that is by making sure that the houses of commerce, those who profit in this society, want a prosperous future for the United States, where each of us is actually able to express our mind in the public square.

01:15:30.000 So we're proud to be in a movement that is not just for a momentary political win.

01:15:34.000 It has lasting economic and cultural ramifications.

01:15:37.000 It's pretty exciting. I don't think you could have said it any better.

01:15:40.000 That's a good way to close.

01:15:41.000 So guys, if you're interested, go check out CLBR on the New York Stock Exchange.

01:15:45.000 Again, that'll flip over in about a week.

01:15:47.000 It's going to be awesome. I'm just excited to be part of movement.

01:15:49.000 Love what you guys are doing.

01:15:51.000 I love that I could make an introduction again.

01:15:53.000 It's more than just talking and posting memes.

01:15:55.000 It's actually taking that action.

01:15:57.000 I think everyone can do that. We love what you're doing.

01:15:59.000 You've been a leader in the movement for a while now, and it's great for us to all come together.

01:16:05.000 So we really appreciate what you do with this show and everything you're doing every day.

01:16:08.000 So thanks for the partnership.

01:16:09.000 Yeah, I really appreciate it. Awesome, guys.

01:16:11.000 Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you.

01:16:12.000 Talk soon. Thanks. Guys, that was awesome.

01:16:16.000 I hope you all appreciate it.

01:16:18.000 Please, again, like, share, subscribe.

01:16:20.000 Let other people see this.

01:16:22.000 Even if it's not for you, I totally get that.

01:16:24.000 But if it is, and I think it should be, because I think this is what I ask, what I see in the comments.

01:16:29.000 Hey, how do we support?

01:16:30.000 How do we actually fight back?

01:16:31.000 Again, the boycotts have been great.

01:16:33.000 They've been effective. But if the companies are still doubling down...

01:16:36.000 We've got to do more. So go check out CLBR on the New York Stock Exchange.

01:16:40.000 You can buy $10 worth.

01:16:41.000 You don't have to spend.

01:16:43.000 This is not a big thing.

01:16:44.000 You can be a part of that.

01:16:47.000 And I think it's just an awesome opportunity.

01:16:49.000 I'm excited to be a part of it.

01:16:50.000 I'm an investor myself, in full disclosure, because I believe in it.

01:16:53.000 I've been pushing this for a long time because you've seen me post about it on social media.

01:16:57.000 Like, this is the forefront of that.

01:16:59.000 This is the... We're good to go.

01:17:22.000 With guys that actually give back to what you believe in rather than companies that hate your guts, go to patriotmobile.com slash triggered for free activation.

01:17:31.000 Quick, simple, easy, and you're going to have a cell phone in your pocket, so again, it might as well be with someone who shares your values.

01:17:37.000 Also, don't forget to check out the folks at GoldCo by going to donjrgold.com.

01:17:42.000 See if gold, precious metals are right for you.

01:17:46.000 They'll take you through the process each and every step of the way.

01:17:49.000 You can inform yourself.

01:17:51.000 You can make an educated decision whether you want to leave it in your 401k as is with some of the lunacy and ESG that we spoke about on the show, or if you want to diversify your portfolio.

01:18:02.000 Maybe hedge against some of the insanity we see going on.

01:18:05.000 Maybe hedge against inflation.

01:18:08.000 Rising and skyrocketing interest rates.

01:18:10.000 What I see, in my opinion, a huge foreclosure crisis coming on because I see what's going on in interest rates and everything else.

01:18:16.000 It's a great chance to do that.

01:18:18.000 So go check out the folks at GoldCo at DonJrGold.com.

01:18:21.000 Really appreciate you guys.

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