Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Alabama) joins Jemele to talk about why he thinks Ron DeSantis is the best choice to replace Donald Trump if he decides to run for president in 2020. He also talks about the failure of his campaign launch and why it may have been the biggest blunder of his political career to date, and why he doesn t think it's likely to be as bad as it looks right now. And, of course, there's a quiz from Jemele about what he'd do if he won the 2020 election. Tweet Me! if you like the podcast and/or have any suggestions for future guests, we'd love to hear them in the comments section below. Timestamps: 3:00 - What would you do if you were elected president? 4:30 - How would he handle the Ukraine crisis if he was elected? 5:15 - Why he thinks he's the best shot at defeating Trump 6:00 What would he do on Ukraine if he were elected 8:30 - What he would do on day 1 of his administration 9:20 - How he would deal with the ongoing war in Eastern Europe 11:40 - How much money would he raise 12:10 - What kind of foreign policy would he bring to the table 13:15 14:00 -- What he's going to do in 2020? 15:40 -- Would he be good on Ukraine 16: What s the best foreign policy 17:30 -- would he focus on the core values 18:15 -- What s his foreign policy plan 19:00 | What s he would focus on? 21:10 -- What does he want to do on the Ukraine? 22:10 -- What's the most important thing he d like to do for the country 23:00 Is he a good guy in a foreign policy deal 26:40 27: Does he have a problem with Ukraine? -- What would be the best way to win in 2020 29:00 Would he have an effective foreign policy strategy? 30:00 Does he think he'd be good at it? 31: Is he better than Trump? 32:00 What's his biggest challenge? 35:00 Do you think he could be a better than the other guy in the White House?
00:02:06.000And it took a long time for Elon Musk to apparently figure out how and what was going on.
00:02:11.000And it took two charismatic billionaires like Elon Musk and David Sachs to carry DeSantis through this where he basically read like an op-ed about what he was going to do.
00:02:22.000But I think what I noticed most about this whole failure to launch was Without the visuals, because it's an audio-only program, you realize just how sort of nasally and effeminate his voice is.
00:02:36.000I don't know if I'm going to be able to get rid of that thought now that it's been sort of isolated.
00:02:43.000You know, when you're on TV and you've got visuals, you get a little distracted.
00:02:46.000But go back and listen for yourselves.
00:02:47.000I don't mind sending you there because it was that bad.
00:02:51.000This failure launch is probably a sign of things to come.
00:03:07.000Historically, it's always been a little bit of an issue, right?
00:03:10.000Even for Trump. It's a little bit more establishment-y at times, I guess.
00:03:16.000And we're going to see more of this, especially when we find out the truth as opposed to what's sort of been put on there by the swarm of sort of paid online DeSantis influencers.
00:03:28.000You see what they're doing, and once you actually put out the facts...
00:03:31.000I think a different image is going to emerge.
00:03:34.000Ron wants people to think that he's like Trump light or something like that.
00:03:37.000He's not either on policy grounds or personality.
00:03:40.000Trump has the charisma of a mortician and the energy that makes Jeb Bush look like an Olympian.
00:03:50.000The policies of a D.C. swamp rat, because we've seen, we've seen the flip-flops, right?
00:03:55.000You can pretend you're MAGA, but Ron still can't answer what he'd do on Ukraine.
00:04:01.000Just watch. Watch him dodge last night with Trey Gowdy in Fox's now failing 8 p.m.
00:04:11.000If you are elected president, you may be the first one in a while to have worn the uniform.
00:04:16.000How would you address the ongoing war in Eastern Europe between Russia and Ukraine on day one of a Ron DeSantis presidency?
00:04:26.000Well, first, I think what we need to do as a veteran is recognize that our military has become politicized.
00:04:33.000You talk about gender ideology, you talk about things like global warming that they're somehow concerned, and that's not the military that I served in.
00:04:41.000We need to return our military to focusing on commitment, focusing on the core values and the core mission.
00:04:49.000That would be something that I... Hey guys, he gets asked about Ukraine and he starts talking about gender ideology.
00:04:56.000I mean, listen, it's an important issue, okay?
00:05:00.000I get it. It's easy to dunk on gender ideology in the military.
00:05:07.000Answering the question without upsetting your donors, without upsetting Mitch McConnell and those guys who would love to have yet another never-ending war, this time with a nuclear-capable power, not dudes that live in caves...
00:05:22.000It's a problem. If the same question were asked of my father, as it was in a CNN, so not exactly a friendly hometown town hall, about a week ago, he'd answer, I'd get to work to secure a peace deal, to stop the unnecessary deaths.
00:05:41.000And Ron tried doing that, but his donors didn't like it.
00:05:44.000Remember that a couple weeks ago when he took the Trump-lite approach and sort of almost tried saying what Donald Trump's been saying, and then...
00:05:51.000Ooh, the donors, the establishment, the people who are really creating this image, they didn't like that one little bit, and so they cut it off.
00:06:03.000And that peace deal is necessary, folks.
00:06:06.000We're running full speed into a nuclear war just today.
00:06:10.000Today! Russia announced that it's deploying...
00:06:18.000This is the first time tactical nuclear weapons will be stored outside of Russia since the end of the Cold War.
00:06:25.000Hey guys, what's the worst that could happen?
00:06:28.000I mean, we've been fighting not just a proxy war, but a boots on the ground war against the world's largest nuclear power by volume of nuclear warheads.
00:06:40.000You know, a despot, a dictator like Putin?
00:06:44.000Sure, guys, keep pushing him so you can get your jobs at Raytheon and the board seats that are required.
00:06:50.000But, you know, the problem with those is you've got to sell more missiles.
00:06:53.000This movement of nukes to Belarus, which borders Ukraine, comes a day after a report revealed that Ukraine was behind a drone attack on the Kremlin in May.
00:07:05.000U.S. taxpayer money is the only reason the Ukrainian government exists.
00:07:12.000Our dollars, your hard-earned dollars, umpteen billion dollars are going to perpetuate the violence and the death.
00:07:24.000And as long as we're sending billions in this proxy war and having a de facto war with Russia, it's never going to end.
00:07:32.000Okay? At this point, we're probably paying their salaries.
00:07:57.000That's how they're going to feed the world when the globalists take over, by controlling that.
00:08:01.000So when they're directly attacking Russia, we're party to that attack, folks.
00:08:07.000Russia keeps threatening to use nukes.
00:08:09.000So why exactly are we not putting an end to all of this?
00:08:14.000Seems odd, right? Think of all the crazy steps taken to try to reduce COVID deaths, right?
00:08:21.000Remember, they put sand in your skateboard parks, for God's sakes.
00:08:25.000But we move full speed towards nuclear war, which would end life as we know it.
00:08:33.000Just so we're clear, Russia has approximately 6,000 and change nuclear weapons.
00:08:41.000Doesn't take a lot of those to, let's just say, create a serious climate change problem, not the one that they're pretending is going to end the world in 12 years.
00:08:51.000That will end it in about 12 milliseconds, okay?
00:09:10.000Sure, some of them put the MAGA hat on for a couple of seconds to get the obligatory photo or whatever to raise a couple bucks from a base and take advantage of them.
00:09:20.000They weren't MAGA then and they aren't MAGA now.
00:09:25.000And this definitely isn't the time to roll the dice on a rhino.
00:09:30.000There's too much at stake for the future of our country.
00:09:33.000But the Democrats right now are loving every second of it because they know that the billionaires backing DeSantis and the money spent there...
00:09:49.000So the Democrats are rejoicing as we spend all the money that we'd be spending to ramp up a ballot harvesting operation to take on the insanity of the left on a war.
00:10:04.000Where the establishment wants to take out America first.
00:10:08.000Nothing more. We'll get more into this later in the show, but first, we have a few more examples in the news of the far-left lunacy destroying our country.
00:10:18.000Say, for example, you might have fond memories of going to baseball games as a kid, or maybe as an adult bringing your kids.
00:10:27.000There's supposed to be family-friendly events, great time, Good old American fun.
00:10:34.000But folks, that's not what the Los Angeles Dodgers think.
00:10:38.000Take a look at the group that they're inviting to an upcoming Pride Night.
00:10:46.000I'll tell you how it is, you only see it when you're standing there.
00:10:51.000You're standing there, and you're looking at the world.
00:10:55.000You're looking at the world, and you're looking at me.
00:11:05.000Might as well stop and let you know that I'm there for you.
00:11:11.000You're looking at the world, and you're looking at me.
00:11:15.000Why are the Los Angeles Dodgers fine with a group that mocks, desecrates Jesus and Christianity?
00:11:22.000And speaking of anti-Christian hate, where's the manifesto from the Nashville trans shooter?
00:11:27.000We found out recently that the shooter went from the school to the attached cathedral and fired seven bullets into the stained glass figure of Adam, the first man in the Bible.
00:11:36.000This is clearly an anti-Christian terror attack, and yet we hear nothing about it.
00:11:41.000That's why the press swept it under the rug.
00:11:44.000It's not a hate crime if the target's a group the left also hates.
00:11:49.000Okay? Imagine for a second, imagine for a second this happened to say, I don't know, They were doing this about Muslims or any other religion.
00:12:00.000But sadly, folks, it's par for the course.
00:12:12.000You can desecrate Jesus at a professional sports game.
00:12:19.000And they don't care. And get this, the Media Research Center just found out that the Biden administration gave a grant to the University of Dayton, to the tune of about 40 million of your taxpayer dollars, to conduct a project that targeted groups such as the Christian Broadcast Network, Turning Point USA, and even Breitbart News.
00:12:44.000Imagine they use that kind of money to go after like the clowns in Congress like Adam Schiff who spent months, if not years, lying to the American people.
00:12:53.000Or all of the leftist media who tried cramming their garbage and their lies down our throats.
00:13:02.000According to the Media Research Center, under the Trump administration, the targeted violence and terrorism prevention grant program was used to prevent terrorism.
00:13:11.000But it was revamped under the Biden administration and renamed to provide funding to, quote, combat all forms of terrorism and targeted violence.
00:13:24.000I don't know, guys. I've spoken a lot of Turning Point events.
00:13:27.000I've read a lot of Breitbart articles.
00:13:29.000I've never seen targeted violence, other than perhaps from the leftists trying to protest it.
00:13:36.000But of course, instead of focusing on preventing actual violence and terrorism, the program is now being used to target conservatives.
00:13:43.000And it's costing you, again, around $40 million.
00:13:48.000And sadly, this is part of the same theme that we see from major corporations, who seem to be totally on board with the same sort of insanity.
00:13:59.000It never ends, folks, because have you been following what's going on now at Target, right?
00:14:07.000They unveiled their Pride Month merchandise, which...
00:14:11.000Apparently included a tuck-friendly bathing suit and using a brand that has a history of satanic-themed products.
00:14:23.000This isn't even a joke. This is Target, one of the country's largest, if not the world's largest retailers, pushing satanic-themed projects.
00:14:34.000This designer says things like, Satan respects pronouns, and Satan loves you.
00:14:40.000I bet they do, because it leads to the destruction of everything that is good and decent, the destruction of the nuclear family, and everything else the radical left wants to attack.
00:15:02.000Now, we do have some good news in that the backlash has been so strong
00:15:07.000that Target reportedly lost $9 billion in one week and called an emergency meeting over the LGBTQIA,
00:15:17.000bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, you know, can't remember all the acronyms.
00:15:21.000I don't think anyone even actually knows what they are.
00:15:23.000Merchandise. And in some stores, they're reallocating or relocating or, all right, moving and removing the merchandise.
00:15:34.000And I actually received a letter from a friend.
00:15:36.000I'm trying to keep it specifically as vague as possible because there'll be reprisals if you have people that are friends that work in these companies, right?
00:15:46.000If you're a leftist, you can do and say whatever you want.
00:15:48.000If you disagree with some of those things, you're out.
00:15:52.000So this is from inside of Target Corporate.
00:15:56.000The letter reads, and I quote, Hey Don, hope you're well.
00:15:59.000I'm not sure if I'll catch you before you go travel.
00:16:42.000He continues, with the recent Pride line and satanic-themed closing lines being pulled after Bud Light backlash and others on the retail merchandise, people in corporate are crying foul and forming peer support groups.
00:16:58.000Because these leftist co-workers are so distraught that the corporate masters are bending to the dollar rather than continuing to push their satanic trans-themed garbage, they're having breakdowns in Zoom meetings.
00:17:13.000There have even been, quote, emotional support groups formed for people to help cope with the groomer line clothing being removed.
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00:21:00.000And with that, I want to bring in legendary coach and United States Senator Tommy Tuberville.
00:21:47.000Oh, well, that's South Florida, but there's a lot of pluses that go along with the minuses.
00:21:53.000I love living down here, and obviously you do.
00:21:55.000It's a great place. Good people and, you know, conservatives, Republicans, a lot of Republicans, and thank goodness we have a state like this that still exists.
00:22:04.000We don't have many left. No, well, Alabama's certainly one of them.
00:22:21.000About as big a blowout as you get in sort of, I'm going to call it national politics, because even if it's a state senator's seat, there's only 100 of those seats, and the Democrats spend big there.
00:22:31.000So even there, they raised a lot of money to fight against you, to try to damage you, to try to pull someone else over the line.
00:22:39.000So you even have to deal with that in Alabama.
00:22:41.000Oh, yeah. I beat a sitting congressman.
00:22:44.000I beat a former United States Attorney General and Senator, Jeff Sessions.
00:22:49.000And then I had to beat a sitting Senator, who was Doug Jones, who had somehow won in Alabama.
00:22:55.000And he spent 10 million a month for three months.
00:22:58.000And I was about broke because I'd had to go through all those primaries.
00:23:02.000And we ended up winning Pretty handily.
00:23:05.000But the people of Alabama, we're still conservative.
00:23:07.000We still believe in God. We still believe in guns.
00:23:34.000You had a rough primary, and it makes the general a lot harder.
00:23:39.000I mean, it actually sounds sort of similar to what we're talking about right now, right?
00:23:42.000Where you have a sort of Iran descent is coming in, you know, pretty significant deficit, but there's a lot of billionaire money that seems to control a little bit more there, right?
00:23:52.000I mean, you saw the flip-flop on Ukraine and all this stuff.
00:23:55.000Do you think that this sort of situation is sort of...
00:23:59.000I mean, are the Democrats just rejoicing that there's going to be hundreds of millions of dollars made by consultants to keep a race going like this?
00:24:07.000You know, I look at it as money we don't have for a general.
00:24:09.000We've got to create a ballot harvesting operation, right?
00:24:11.000If America was Alabama, I wouldn't worry about it.
00:24:14.000But in races where they're outspending us 10 to 1 already in some places across the country, I think as a strategist, and you certainly did that as a football coach, it seems like depleting our resources that way is sort of the Democrats' wet dream.
00:24:30.000Yeah. You know, I'm new to this business, and I've been watching it now for three or four years in House races, Senate races, and now the presidential race coming up.
00:24:40.000The Democrats raise money very easily.
00:24:42.000That wind blew. It is unbelievable how much money they have.
00:24:45.000They have three or four times the money we do as Republicans, but still money doesn't win for you.
00:25:58.000And, you know, everybody asks, well, what about Ron DeSantis?
00:26:02.000He says, well, we've got to find out, first of all, who he is, and we've got to find out, is the establishment funding him?
00:26:08.000Because if they are, and people find that out, it's done.
00:26:11.000It's over with. Well, I mean, I think we know some of that already.
00:26:14.000When you get sort of the Karl Rove, Paul Ryan endorsement, you start saying, probably not MAGA. Hey, let's see what happens, but probably not MAGA. I mean, there's a revolt amongst those guys.
00:26:35.000You saw... Two weeks ago, you know, with the firing of Tucker Carlson, some of your colleagues in the Senate saying, well, you know, Republican colleagues, well, you know, with Tucker gone, at least now we can fully support the war in Ukraine without backlash.
00:26:50.000Like, but your constituency doesn't want it.
00:26:52.000And yet, off the record, you'll tell a liberal journalist that you're thrilled that Tucker Carlson's gone because you can literally go against the will of the people who put you in those positions.
00:27:03.000And I was like, isn't that like everything Americans hate about politics?
00:27:08.000Well, deep down, at the end of the day, Don, people want truth in this country.
00:27:14.000They're tired of being lied to. They are tired of being lied to.
00:27:17.000I've never seen the deceit in the two years I've been in the Senate.
00:27:27.000We knew it for two years. We did, but the media, the powers that control this, big tech, mainstream media, big social, they still pretended like it was real.
00:27:37.000I mean, there's still people out there on TV being like, Russia collusion was real.
00:28:11.000When I was a target of these guys, you know, in Russia, Russia, Russia, right?
00:28:16.000I did 50 hours of testimony for treason, a crime punishable by death, minor details.
00:28:20.000Like, I was like, well, there's gotta be something to it.
00:28:22.000Someone must have maybe infiltrated my email, or maybe I took a selfie with someone, and that's how I got sucked into it.
00:28:29.000Even I, as a target, couldn't have imagined that the FBI was just lying.
00:28:35.000That they were in cahoots with the other side.
00:28:37.000Even if I was thinking about it politically, and yet now we know that actually happened.
00:28:40.000And that's pretty scary. It is really scary.
00:28:43.000All of our institutions are compromised.
00:28:44.000All you have to do is look at it and listen just a little bit.
00:28:47.000You don't have to know a whole lot. I mean, just the average citizen out there can figure it out on their own if they just keep watching what's going on and then read the reports.
00:28:55.000And this Durham report, most of us knew what it was about and knew the endgame.
00:29:05.000I've got friends in the FBI, and I've talked to a lot of them, and they said, listen, what happened with the FBI was back when Obama became president, he took the upper echelon of the FBI and inserted bureaucrats.
00:29:16.000He took out former FBI agents and put bureaucrats in.
00:29:19.000And they said, until we get FBI agents back in running the FBI, this is not going to happen.
00:29:24.000We're not going to have the same FBI we had years and years ago.
00:29:37.000They're trying to get in the military.
00:29:39.000And man, have they got a foot in the door on that.
00:29:41.000And it just scares me. It scares me that they're gonna do what they've done to the other institutions and do to our military.
00:29:48.000Because if they get that, The only thing left is the Supreme Court.
00:29:51.000That's the only thing that we have. Well, and they're talking about that every day, right?
00:29:54.000Every day. They're talking, hey, let's just flood the courts.
00:29:57.000We'll add 100 judges and we'll appoint them all.
00:30:00.000I mean, there's nothing off the table, right?
00:30:03.000They have disastrous recruitment in the military right now.
00:30:06.000You know, no one wants to go serve a military where they're pushing, you know, being pushed by, you know, trans or, like, drag influencers.
00:30:13.000Like, it's just not the people who would go fight and die for a country, probably not into that.
00:30:17.000Like, you know, it doesn't take a marketing genius or a military, you know, it doesn't exactly take George Patton to figure that out, and yet it doesn't stop them from doing it.
00:30:28.000I'm on the Armed Services Committee and there's not a hearing that doesn't go by that some of us don't ask a general or admiral, now you have these books in your library on some of our aircraft carriers, or you're doing poems on aircraft carriers, or You're building more transgender restrooms than you are for coverings for 100 million dollar airplanes.
00:31:14.000Although, all the things we believe in, they're on the table.
00:31:18.000To the Democrats, they're all negotiable for their agenda.
00:31:22.000And again, that sort of has to wake everyone up.
00:31:24.000Well, this group wants us to be like Europe in a lot of ways, socialist, a dictator as a president, like some of the presidents that are in Europe.
00:31:34.000I was on a plane the other day traveling.
00:31:36.000I forget where I was at. I travel so much.
00:31:58.000And y'all are doing the same thing to your country that we did to ours.
00:32:01.000You need to stop it. She didn't know I was a senator, so I didn't speak up at that point.
00:32:06.000But I told her, I said, yes ma'am, I do believe and understand what you're saying.
00:32:09.000And she's exactly right. They are turning, the Democrats and the progressives are just turning us inside out into something that, number one, we don't want to be.
00:32:27.000I mean, you know, again, they've controlled these institutions so well.
00:32:29.000I think it's been going on for much longer than we probably realized.
00:32:33.000Probably decades. It just took, like, a Donald Trump or, you know, a little bit of a revolt of the actual people fighting back against the sort of uniparty establishment to actually bring out the true, you know, they're saying the quiet parts out loud now.
00:33:04.000It was a disaster for their reading, for their science, for their math scores, for everything.
00:33:08.000But parents finally figured out what was going on.
00:33:11.000Because they're walking by and their kids are learning about everything other than math, anything other than things that are actually important to an education.
00:33:20.000And... So it was like the greatest sort of self-own of all time.
00:34:23.000And how are you going to pay back your college loan with that degree?
00:34:27.000And they don't teach reading and math.
00:34:33.000In China right now, in 6th, 7th grade, they're learning calculus and algebra 2 and all these things.
00:34:40.000We're teaching social justice, diversity.
00:34:43.000We don't teach math. We don't teach kids to learn.
00:34:45.00038, what, 28 schools in Baltimore a few months ago, last year's graduating class, 28 schools in Baltimore, zero proficiency in math in any graduate.
00:34:58.000I mean, think, not a single graduate This country was built on the backs of educated young men and women that got an education and went out and got a job and helped this country become better.
00:35:13.000And you can't make this country better.
00:35:14.000It's like being an offensive lineman in football.
00:35:16.000Unless you know the fundamentals and techniques, I don't care how good an athlete you are, if you don't have the fundamentals and techniques, you can't play the position.
00:35:24.000You can't play the position in life if you can't read and write and do math.
00:35:29.000You can't do it. You're going to have to live off the government.
00:35:32.000I'll be dang. Hey, the Democrats have a solution for you, sir.
00:35:37.000Oh yeah, exactly right. We'll take care of you forever.
00:35:39.000You can just be an idiot and do nothing.
00:35:57.000Do you see those changes manifest themselves throughout?
00:36:00.000Oh, big time. You could bring them in.
00:36:02.000And what I would do, as a football coach, you sign 25 new players a year.
00:36:07.000And you bring them in, and before you put them in a tough college class, whether it's English or math or whatever, I found out the hard way to make sure that they're proficient in that before you put them in that class.
00:36:20.000Because if they flunk a couple of classes, it's going to be hard to catch up.
00:36:23.000You're going to lose your eligibility. So I'd bring them in.
00:36:26.000And Don, the last 10 or 15 years, you would have very few young men and women who had 3.5, even some 4-point GPAs that were not proficient in reading.
00:36:41.000They were 6th grade, 9th grade reading level.
00:36:44.000It's amazing. And some of them couldn't read at all, but they got a degree in high school.
00:36:48.000They just passed them on. I spent some of my own money trying to put them in reading classes, trying to get them to a point.
00:36:53.000And then we budgeted money for tutors And we get them to a level in a certain point, whether it's math or English, science, and then we could put them in a college preparatory class, but it's gotten a lot worse.
00:37:44.000If you're getting a 25, that's a failing grade.
00:37:49.000It's lunacy, and yet we keep doing it because they control so much power.
00:37:55.000That notion of school choice or dollars following the student, I can't imagine anyone who actually understands the facts not being for that, and yet You know, that's the difference between the constituency and the powers that be that have that control, right?
00:38:09.000I imagine if you explained it and you took, even in the inner cities, and you explained to them what they could have for their children, who wouldn't want that?
00:38:17.000But that's not what they're getting, and they don't even know that that's an option.
00:38:19.000And when it is an option, they spend more money fighting the onslaught from the teachers union than they do actually being able to form the charter schools or whatever it may be.
00:38:28.000Well, the COVID really brought it out about how bad our schools are and how bad our teachers are in the inner city.
00:40:27.000You're talking about 14, 16 hours a day.
00:40:29.000You can't live a normal life like that.
00:40:32.000And we have a huge mental health problem in this country.
00:40:35.000Because of that. And it's not just because of that.
00:40:37.000You know, of course, the borders are open and we've got drugs everywhere.
00:40:40.000And of course, we had a mental health problem beforehand, but we've never had an answer to it.
00:40:46.000Our answer to mental health is if somebody has a problem, you put them in jail, and then after you can't keep them in there for a while, you kick them back out on the street and let them wander around.
00:40:55.000Or you just put them on whatever drugs Big Pharma's pushing that week and, you know, let's just solve the problem because there's a pill for everything, right?
00:41:00.000Exactly. And we've got to get control of mental health.
00:41:03.000I don't think we can make it as a country because the status quo, for a while, we were making progress and then all of a sudden, you know, a lot of things come in to affect and our kids are growing up as zombies in some areas.
00:43:04.000And, you know, you can make a lot more money coaching, to be honest with you.
00:43:07.000A lot more money. Listen, like all things.
00:43:10.000Literally, it's like a key of the show.
00:43:12.000It's like, hey, it was a lot easier and a lot more lucrative to be a real estate developer, but I also have five young kids, and I've got to leave them a country that we recognize.
00:43:18.000Exactly. And, you know, again, that's on the table for these guys right now.
00:43:24.000And I tell people back in Alabama, they say, you like what you're doing?
00:43:27.000Not really. I don't like this, but I'm glad I'm there.
00:43:30.000Because I think I bring a little common sense and something from a different part of what a lot of, most of them are lawyers that I work with.
00:43:38.000You have a few business people, most are lawyers.
00:43:45.000It's worse now that I got in, that I was watching and looking from the outside.
00:43:51.000Yeah, you can't imagine how bad it is until you're the guy actually taking those slings and arrows.
00:43:55.000That's why I'm like, you know, when everyone's like, well, Trump should have done this, should have done that.
00:43:58.000Like, relax. Like, you don't understand, like, what you're up against.
00:44:01.000It's not, you know, you're not the Lord.
00:44:04.000Exactly. When you're in one of these positions, whether it's president or senator, you know, there's all sorts of people that can subvert you along the way, and we figured that out.
00:44:12.000Now we actually know who those people are.
00:44:13.000I think that's why they hate Trump this time around even more, because that's the true threat to those little fiefdoms that they've been able to create for, you know, unelected bureaucrats, essentially.
00:44:23.000Well, since I've been there, I've looked at it and, you know, the Democrats, they stay more on attack and resentment politics, meaning that they want every individual group to fight each other.
00:44:37.000It's like taking a hornet's nest and just shaking it up.
00:44:41.000You know, everybody's always fighting each other.
00:44:43.000There's nothing easy about it and nothing's getting done.
00:45:18.000It's full of people that live off the federal government.
00:45:21.000Listen, it's a cutthroat business, but so is sports, certainly at your level.
00:45:27.000Talk about that. Talk about the similarities.
00:45:28.000What are the similarities and perhaps what are the differences?
00:45:31.000Well, I mean, you've got a common goal, obviously, to win.
00:45:35.000And in college football, you recruit and you get people on your side, and you try to win on a Saturday.
00:45:44.000The thing about government, you try to win, but it is slow motion.
00:45:48.000You don't play every Saturday. You know, there's not a game every Saturday.
00:45:50.000You might have a game every three or four months, and you're trying to get enough people on your side to vote your way, you know.
00:45:57.000They have a much bigger cheerleading squad with the mainstream media and big tech.
00:46:01.000Well, the media is one of our big problems.
00:46:03.000I mean, if the media was down the line, balanced, and they held Republicans to the fire and the Democrats, and they just called it the way they saw it, we would have a country that would be unbelievable.
00:46:18.000For some reason, I don't know what happened, over the years, years, and even before your time, they started moving to one side, and it's just, it's not bipartisan, it's all partisan.
00:46:30.000I come off the Senate floor and I can see the ones, and they're coming to you asking a question, some I'll talk to, some I won't, because I know that they're going to take your words and mix it up and make you look like that.
00:46:43.000Meanwhile, your colleague John Fetterman, he's a brilliant mind, he's a great orator, it's a little bit of a double standard, right?
00:46:50.000You know, I like John. He took my old office the last few weeks.
00:46:55.000He took my office and, you know, he come in and he's obviously had problems.
00:47:00.000He's had health problems. And I can't imagine, you know, I was healthy and I struggled doing it.
00:47:07.000You know, going through a campaign and going through all the things you have to go through and he's really struggled and, you know, We all wish him the best, and I talk to him every day, but he struggles.
00:47:25.000He understands that. He's had health problems, and he wanted to do it, and he stayed with it, and so he's going to have to make the best of it.
00:47:33.000I'm curious about that one, because it feels like he was sort of pushed into it, right?
00:47:39.000The Democrats knew about a lot of the health stuff and the stroke beforehand, and they just assumed maybe he was the guy that they could get to win, and then it's like, you know, he missed a couple months of work, and then it was...
00:47:50.000And again, I understand private relationships.
00:48:39.000I hope he gets better. It's a high-level game, but there's also real stakes.
00:48:46.000Not that there's not in football, but like, you know, these could be, you know, Russia's moving tactical nuclear weapons into Belarus today.
00:48:55.000I mean, you guys are being issued satellite phones.
00:48:57.000I don't want to know what they're for, but I can only imagine.
00:49:01.000That's scary stuff. And if people aren't functioning 100%, you know, if your quarterback's at 90%, It's game changing.
00:49:11.000That would be, you know, double digits in a point spread change if people knew that, right?
00:49:18.000But when we're talking about life and death, when we're talking about trillion dollar decisions, when we're talking about decisions that our children and grandchildren could be beholden to, whether it's financially or otherwise, you've got to be on.
00:49:31.000Yeah, oh yeah. And I get up every morning at 5 o'clock and I read for a couple hours.
00:49:37.000I read stuff where I keep up with, I'm not talking about news, I'm talking about articles about whether it's Ukraine, it's what's come out of Russia, what they're doing in Iran.
00:49:48.000And football had an offensive and defensive kicking game.
00:49:50.000Here, you've got everything. And you've got to keep up with it.
00:49:54.000And so that's the reason I say it's hard to be compromised and be 100%.
00:50:00.000And you've got to be on your toes, I'm going to tell you.
00:50:04.000And then you've got the mainstream media out there that's going to attack you.
00:50:45.000We had a retired colonel on here a week ago talking about exactly that.
00:50:50.000There's more four-star generals now when we're not really at war versus when we had World War II. Let's just say slightly different.
00:51:00.000Even if we've been at war for 20 years, it's a different war.
00:51:03.000And yet, you know, the results don't really seem to be in line and doesn't stop the bureaucracy from expanding or, you know, more generals.
00:51:11.000And no one really retires and everyone gets the reward to be a general.
00:51:14.000And if you're trans, you probably become a general or an admiral real quickly too.
00:52:07.000We're worried about white rage or something.
00:52:10.000I never even heard of it, but apparently it's a big thing.
00:52:13.000We're supposed to have a killing machine.
00:52:16.000And you hate to say that, but that's what the military is.
00:52:18.000They've got to be afraid of us, but they don't want that.
00:52:21.000They want to make sure that everybody understands they've got total control and they've got people in place that are going to teach the things that they want to teach.
00:52:31.000It's really sad, but we've got to have a good military.
00:52:35.000I'm going to tell you, In my lifetime, and yours, this is today, we have the most dangerous world that any of us have ever lived in.
00:52:44.000Of course. Listen, we're talking about nukes casually these days.
00:52:48.000Iran, they've almost got a nuke, okay?
00:52:50.000They've almost got it. Once they get it, what are they going to do with it?
00:52:53.000Then you've got Israel sitting around waiting, and they're not going to sit back.
00:52:57.000No, of course not. They're not going to sit back.
00:52:59.000And then, of course, you've got Ukraine. Well, and it's not like it's their entire existence.
00:53:07.000The Ayatollah, you know, he still has his Twitter account when they ban Trump and stuff like that, but he can literally say they're going to wipe him off the face of the earth.
00:53:29.000You know, because I'm for Ukraine winning, but we can't continue to do it.
00:53:33.000We can't afford it. People don't understand.
00:53:35.000We can't afford it. The problem is this.
00:53:37.000As long as we're funneling money to them, as long as we're giving them $130, Billion?
00:53:42.000I mean, that's a lot of money. That's a lot of money.
00:53:45.000That's like, okay, beyond that, the Pentagon lost 220 billion.
00:53:49.000You know, minor details, right? I'm sure most of that's going there or de facto going to our military to send it over there.
00:53:55.000You know, so you could be at, you know, half a trillion dollars in this proxy war with Russia.
00:53:59.000But as long as that money's flowing, All the corrupt people are getting rich.
00:54:04.000There's no incentive to actually stop fighting the war.
00:54:08.000We're fighting that war for them with our equipment.
00:54:10.000We're spending our money, and no one's coming to the table as long as they're like, hey, there's more weapons, and we'll probably take some money on the side, and everyone's getting rich who's making decisions while people are dying in the streets, needlessly.
00:54:30.000I mean, they didn't have an army to really fight.
00:54:32.000We just marched through them and we turned around and gave it back to them for some unknown reason instead of taking our oil and paid ourselves back in terms of what we put into that.
00:54:43.000Of course, Afghanistan, Our military didn't run, our politicians ran.
00:54:49.000And that was the worst debacle I've seen.
00:54:51.000And that was when I first got to the Senate.
00:54:54.000And, you know, our military people, true military people, were embarrassed of what the White House did.
00:55:57.000But our generals wanted to worry about white rage.
00:55:59.000And Joe Biden wanted to take credit by accelerating it into the fighting season so he could say he did it faster than Trump.
00:56:07.000No one was advocating for the endless wars.
00:56:09.000And I think the American populace, frankly, until Ukraine became the new religion of the left...
00:56:16.000um was generally out of this mindset of no one wants to be in endless wars and I think that's why the generals went so well because that was the retirement plan like the Raytheon board yeah uh now it's like oh maybe we'll go to Disney or something like that well the one thing I will say and and standing up for a few of the generals that I've gotten to know pretty well uh after investigating you know the Afghanistan the guy that pulled us out was Joe Biden He went against most of the—now, I'd say some were probably for, but he went against some that he should have listened to, that really knew what was going on, that had been there for a while, that was there under President Trump.
00:57:36.000Again, some of these rivalries tend to be more regional and everyone's rivalries are the biggest, but talk a little bit about the Alabama-Auburn rivalry.
00:57:43.000Well, fortunately I was coaching in a lot of big rival games.
00:58:36.000It was hard for a coach. When I coached it, it was hard because I wanted to get it over with because you felt the weight of every alumni person or football player that had ever played at Auburn, you know, for that game.
00:58:49.000And you wanted to win it for them, not for you, not for your football team.
00:59:07.000In the South, in Georgia, in Alabama, in Mississippi, in Louisiana, Tennessee, Florida, there's a lot of great athletes.
00:59:14.000And if you just look at the NFL rosters, most of them come from those five or six states.
00:59:19.000Talk about Saban. Is he the greatest of all time?
00:59:21.000You actually have a winning record against him, which I think not a lot of people can boast, and certainly not a lot of people in what would be a big rivalry.
00:59:57.000And to accomplish what he's done is just absolutely amazing.
01:00:02.000So, you know, politics in Alabama, right?
01:00:04.000Obviously, Auburn's loved, but, like, half the state also hates that.
01:00:11.000Was that a consideration, I mean, getting into the game?
01:00:13.000Because, again, you can be loved, but you're also the guy that competed against, you know, teams that, again, I saw it.
01:00:20.000I've spent more time in sort of Texas.
01:00:21.000I've been to Texas OU a bunch of times.
01:00:22.000I mean, I watch grown men just crying.
01:00:24.000Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Literally just crying.
01:00:27.000And, you know, I came from, you know, New England, I went to an Ivy League school.
01:00:31.000It wasn't the same, so I didn't understand football culture until I sort of got out and started hanging out with guys in the South, where it is, to your point.
01:00:40.000Practically life and death to these guys.
01:00:42.000Oh, yeah. My buddy from Texas, a big Republican involved in the game, and he goes, Texas OU weekend for him was the culmination of Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving, his birthday, and every other major holiday rolled up into one special weekend.
01:02:23.000And if we don't allow this transgender movement to ruin women's sports, women's sports are getting bigger.
01:02:29.000Talk about that. Listen, I went to Penn, where the home of Leah Thomas, which probably, it's been going on for a little while before, but that was the first big one.
01:02:39.000You can literally have an exact tie with a woman.
01:02:41.000It's like, well, we're giving it to the dude.
01:02:46.000Sorry, my producers are laughing, but it's true.
01:02:48.000They had an exact tie with Riley Gaines.
01:02:51.000It's like, well, we're giving it to that one because there's press around it.
01:02:54.000And they're like, well, why would the tie go to the biological male who became a woman, at least in his own mind, a few weeks ago rather than the woman?
01:03:03.000Because I sit there. I have a daughter that's a great athlete.
01:03:05.000She's a great golfer. And I know the time it takes, the dedication, the perseverance to be the best.
01:03:12.000And yet... Against men her age, it's just different.
01:03:16.000There's a biological advantage, there's physical advantages, there's strength.
01:03:20.000They can erase all of that in academia.
01:03:25.000What I want to know, where are the soccer moms?
01:03:28.000Well, they're the ones going to have to change it.
01:03:30.000And this is one topic that has really made me mad over the last two or three months of we're letting this happen because it's a small part of our country that's transgender.
01:03:44.000This country lets you be whatever you want.
01:03:46.000Be who you want. But for you to be able to compete, say, I want to compete against girls or women in a sport where you are...
01:03:55.000Definitely 30, 40, 50% bigger, faster, and stronger.
01:03:59.000Your daughter, what, 15, playing golf, if she plays against Bubba Watson's son in a few years, she's not going to beat him because he's going to hit it 325 yards and she's going to hit it 280.
01:04:51.000I mean, when you're competing against bigger, better athletes, we saw a volleyball game, you know, where the kid gets hit in the face with a volleyball.
01:04:59.000Well, there's the MMA, the trans MMA guy that knocked out all these women and fractured their skull.
01:05:04.000There's, you know, the weightlifting, I guess no one's getting hurt on the other side, but like...
01:05:09.000It's insane. Like, you know, of course, I mean, you look at the, just the records of the men, the top men and the top women, and let's just say there's a large discrepancy, and yet it continues.
01:05:19.000And, you know, again, the moms are what surprises me the most, because I know how much effort they put in.
01:05:26.000Oftentimes, and the dads, but like, it really feels like it, because it really only affects women, right?
01:05:32.000There's no women getting into men's sports that are dominating and costing young men their scholarships or whatever it may be.
01:05:40.000It's only going the one way, which probably tells you everything you need to know, and yet it doesn't seem to matter.
01:05:45.000But the fact that there's so much silence, you know, why are they afraid to take on that issue?
01:06:02.000And a lot of people don't know how to fight for what's right because they're afraid they'll be called out, be called names, ridiculed because, oh, you're against this certain group.
01:06:12.000That's not what this country is about.
01:06:15.000And there's no fairness. One of the few things that Washington, D.C. has done right in the last 50 years is made a law called Title IX where women had a level.
01:06:26.000You had to deal with that, I'm sure, a lot.
01:06:28.000Oh, yeah. The football programs at these universities, in all fairness, that's the athletic budget, and yet it had to be distributed sort of equally amongst the sexes.
01:06:40.000Yeah, you're the only one really generating what we call serious revenue.
01:06:43.000Basketball doesn't make any, baseball doesn't make any, football pays for every athletic sport.
01:06:50.000And now that transgender is coming along, and fine, let them have their own group to compete, but don't let them compete against women, because what's going to happen is these young girls coming up aren't going to play, and it's going to be devastating to women's sports.
01:07:07.000Yeah. Well, hopefully we push back on that.
01:07:09.000But I think also, how did sports actually get so politicized?
01:07:14.000You see that in the NBA and the NFL and my intro talking about the Dodgers are hosting sort of this blasphemous group with the crucifix made of dildos.
01:07:28.000How were they able to get a hold of that?
01:07:30.000Because it doesn't feel like, certainly not in Alabama, but it doesn't feel like the fan base is even accepting of some of this stuff, or at least would be 50-50, and yet it doesn't matter.
01:07:40.000They're happy to throw that in the face of all of it and just go full woke.
01:07:45.000It's all about whether you're commissioner of a league or you're an athletic director or you run ESPN. Yeah, well, you worked with ESPN. Yeah, yeah.
01:07:55.000I mean, they feel they're more political to me than CNN. Sure they are.
01:07:59.000Well, they're owned by Disney and ABC, and they're very political.
01:08:11.000I was one of the announcers of the games, and I was on the short end of the stick when it came to being conservative.
01:08:21.000It is what it is, because most of them come from the Northeast, the people up there.
01:08:26.000No, it's a lot of politics in sports and the Kaepernick deal of taking an E on the national anthem really got it stirred up and I think people saw that if you start something like that, you can accelerate politics and get people talking about it.
01:08:42.000I think for some of them you can also accelerate the career, right?
01:08:45.000They become the martyr. Kaepernick made money deals with athletic companies, let's call it He's a great athlete, I'm sure, but he was a journeyman quarterback, certainly for the NFL, right?
01:08:56.000I mean, he wasn't outstanding by any metric, and yet he became one of the most talked about NFL players.
01:09:04.000And probably, you know, I don't know if he sold a lot of jerseys or sold no jerseys, but he certainly got the financial deals that no one else with his stats would have ever gotten.
01:09:14.000Did you see that in your players, too?
01:09:15.000I mean, was there sort of that revolt against the flag, against the anthem, or did that not really exist?
01:09:21.000Did that really come once they got into the pay world?
01:09:25.000No, yeah, you didn't see that because, like you said, it's about money.
01:09:29.000Usually politics is about money, and so you didn't really have that.
01:09:32.000That problem in college, but now you're getting into NIL and all these college kids are making money and it's going to be the downfall.
01:09:41.000It won't take it to its knees, but it's going to degrade how competitive it is because you're going to have just a few people that's going to have the money to get the best players.
01:09:54.000Yeah, talk about that. I mean, what does that do to your ability to recruit, say, even at a big school like Auburn versus Alabama, where now they've got a bunch of national champions and, like, you know, it's the feeder program to the NFL, right?
01:10:09.000Between that and Georgia or whatever it may be.
01:10:11.000Does it make that disparity grow a lot further where there's two or three teams that are just going to be the only ones that can be dominant and that's it?
01:10:19.000Well, you know, you're going to have several teams in the big leagues in college that's going to be able to make it.
01:10:24.000The problem is you've got 400 other Division II teams.
01:10:30.000If they get a good player, they're going to take money and go to one of the better teams.
01:10:34.000And so you're not going to be able to build a team.
01:10:36.000It's going to take away from a lot of the smaller schools, 1AA schools as we used to call them.
01:11:24.000Hey, when times get tough, I don't like this coach or he's making me do too much or working too hard.
01:11:30.000My buddies at this other school say we're not doing it, so I'm going to go to this other school.
01:11:34.000So that's not what this country is about.
01:11:36.000This country is about going and doing your job, doing your duty, working as a team, learning time management, work ethic, and all those things.
01:11:47.000I mean, I do see, hey, a lot of these schools making...
01:11:50.000Tens and hundreds of millions of dollars off of the players who couldn't do anything.
01:11:54.000So, I mean, I get a component of it, but I think the point you just brought up is actually the scary one, which is like, I don't want to put in the work.
01:12:00.000This guy's going to give me more money to do that.
01:12:02.000I mean, I think what made a lot of the great players is having a great coach, someone who pushed them out of their comfort zone.
01:12:08.000And I think, you know, for better or worse, in today's sort of instant gratification world, if it's like, well, I can take $10 million from this, it's like, I can be done for life.
01:12:16.000Yeah, and we've got money involved in it, and one thing that we're trying to put back into it is when you go to college, you go for what?
01:12:31.000And so what we're doing is we're putting money in it, and parents are taking money, and actually what a lot of these kids are doing, all the money goes to the parents, and the kid doesn't get anything.
01:12:44.000Yeah, that's where a lot of this abuse, you're going to see lawsuits, this is going to be a problem.
01:12:49.000And there's contracts that are broken, so there's really no rules or regulations right now.
01:12:54.000It's kind of the wild, wild west, and we're trying to get it under control, but listen, I'm for players making money.
01:13:02.000It's the only time in their life they'll have two full-time jobs.
01:13:05.000Going to school, academics, tutors and all that, and then you gotta turn around and you gotta go work and practice for a crazy coach and spend a lot of time lifting weights, you know, going to meetings, practicing.
01:13:17.000It's a lot to it. So I'm for them making money, but I tell you, I'm not for two or three on a team making money and the rest of them not making any.
01:13:23.000I'm for all of them getting a piece of money. I can see that creating a problem also.
01:13:26.000There's some bitterness. I could even see it in the sense that, you know, these are also young kids, right?
01:13:30.000They're pissed off. This guy's, you know, driving a Ferrari and we're not like, hey, I'm just going to miss that block.
01:14:09.000Who knows what's going through their minds.
01:14:11.000You wish they wouldn't do that, but I can't say that, I don't know how many kids are playing college football, but it's thousands.
01:14:19.000It's going to happen, and that could be devastating to people as well.
01:14:23.000Well, there's two things left in our society where kids get disciplined.
01:14:27.000Because a lot of our kids nowadays have one or no parent.
01:14:31.000Because this generation, for some reason, you know, the Democrats have fought the nuclear family and busted it up.
01:14:38.000Well, they've incentivized almost getting rid of it.
01:14:40.000Where you can make money. You know, you can make money if you're not married and all that.
01:14:42.000Bigger programs and more money. But the two areas that's really kept us together is military, you can go get discipline and hard work, you can learn all that, and sports, you can do the same thing.
01:14:54.000Everybody can't do it, but a lot of these young men and women learn to work with other people and do things right and know when things get tough, how to get up off the ground and go again.
01:15:11.000What have we got left? We don't have family.
01:15:13.000We don't have sports. And we're not going to have military to take thousands of kids into.
01:15:18.000Well, they're getting rid of God, too, as evidenced by the L.A. Dodgers.
01:15:21.000If they're comfortable doing that, you know what I mean?
01:15:25.000Again, I don't think they would do it if it was Muslim or Hindu or anyone else, but to attack the Christian faith in that specific instance, Catholics that way.
01:15:36.000We're maybe Christian in this country now, maybe 30%.
01:15:40.000Hopefully it's a little bit more than that.
01:15:43.000And this country was built on Christian faith.
01:15:46.000And of course, a lot of the Democrats fight it every day.
01:15:49.000These are common things, but again, there is a flagrant attack on that.
01:15:55.000Right. From coaching, what are the moments that stood out to you most?
01:16:00.000What's the most memorable experience there?
01:16:03.000Well, I enjoyed seeing young men Start from almost nothing and have nothing to being very successful.
01:16:16.000And them learning how to work, again, you come from high school, you think, man, I've made it.
01:16:20.000I'm going into college. It's just now getting started.
01:16:25.000And they look around the first day they're there, man, these guys are big, they're strong, they're fast.
01:16:29.000Well, they weren't. When they were your age, They were starting on a weight program and they were starting to learn how to play the game and learn how to be a good person.
01:17:37.000Pretty good one. But being an actor really put him to the point where obviously he makes millions and millions.
01:17:44.000I really enjoyed seeing kids, not just kids like that that went on to make all pro or...
01:17:49.000To be excellent at football, but to just be good at life.
01:17:51.000Yeah, but to go have a great life, you know, and knew how to work and put time in and knew if they had to be there at five, hey, you better be there at five.
01:18:01.000So many of these kids don't know time restraints anymore.
01:18:04.000They don't understand it. Did you see the discipline change?
01:18:10.000Did you see that sort of level of discipline change or did the great ones always have that discipline and was that a standout factor?
01:18:16.000You would see some that you'd have, that's one of your most disappointing things, to see a kid come in with all this talent and they didn't put it to use.
01:18:24.000I mean, they thought they were to the promised land and they didn't want to work out on weights and they thought, hey, I'm here, let's get it done, instead of earning their spurs and really doing what they needed to to make themselves even better than what they were.
01:18:39.000That was hard. But you start to see the lack of discipline.
01:18:45.000But the thing about it, again, most in this country, the high school football programs I'd go to, they were hard-nosed.
01:18:50.000I mean, you can't be football and not be hard-nosed because you're not winning many games.
01:18:56.000The coach is going to get fired. And so that's one thing that, as I said earlier, sports, men and women, have really helped this country.
01:19:05.000Maintain the leadership, dedication, and the work ethic they need to make it through life.
01:19:11.000Well, it's sort of the ultimate meritocracy, right?
01:19:13.000Which is why it's so interesting that sports has been so politicized because it's the opposite, right?
01:19:19.000The NFL taking their woke positions on these things.
01:19:23.000If the guy's not the best, if you're not Tom Brady, you're not starting.
01:19:27.000If you have Tom Brady, that guy's going to be the guy that's starting because there's so much on the line.
01:19:30.000And yet, it's always interesting watching sort of That's the, like, key tenet of the entire game in that, and yet the sort of issues they espouse, the issues they take are actually sort of the opposite of that in real life.
01:19:47.000The irony is sort of, you know what I mean?
01:19:48.000Like, that would never fly. Like, you wouldn't be an NFL team.
01:19:52.000You'd lose money, and then therefore you wouldn't exist, and therefore it wouldn't happen.
01:19:56.000And yet, it feels like they're pushing that stuff outside of their ecosphere, but not within.
01:20:02.000It's happening more than you think, but it's, you know, If you just look back at sports, how people have, you know, came from nothing.
01:20:11.000You know, O.J. Simpson, you know, running back in my day, watching one of the greatest ever to play, you know, he got cut from his eighth grade football team.
01:20:38.000It was funny. They could throw the ball, but they didn't have the legs that some of these kids have nowadays.
01:20:45.000But there was something different, right?
01:20:45.000Like I was there with a bunch of buddies of mine who I affectionately call Massholes.
01:20:51.000We were watching a Patriots game the day Drew Blitzo was taken out.
01:20:56.000And again, these were grown men from Boston, like, in tears that their guy,
01:21:03.000maybe not the greatest ever, but he sort of carried the franchise a little bit for a while.
01:21:08.000And they're in their tears because this guy that was warming up the bench, Tom Brady,
01:21:14.000Brady was going to now be their quarterback.
01:21:17.000And I'm sitting there like, well, who would have known that that was sort of the start of a dynasty of probably the greatest quarterback in NFL history?
01:21:26.000He was. And, of course, we forget about a lot of them over the years and they call him, you know, the GOAT, greatest of all time.
01:21:33.000And probably in the last 20 years, you could match him up against Joe Montana, you know, who was really, really good.
01:21:41.000Roger Staubach in his day was really, really good.
01:21:47.000So, but, you know, all those guys Made themselves into players because they understood the only way you can get there is to be dedicated to the job.
01:21:56.000And that's the reason they were successful.
01:21:59.000Again, I just hate to see the road that we're taking in sports right now in a lot of areas to where it's more about money than it is about making yourself better.
01:22:10.000How did you get into it to begin with?
01:22:12.000I played. I played high school, played college, and then a small school in Arkansas.
01:22:17.000And then I decided, you know, a coach is really somebody that doesn't want to grow up.
01:22:23.000Really, it's true. And so you can't play, but what's the next best thing?
01:22:27.000You're going to coach. And so I got into it on the high school level.
01:22:31.000Then I got into it on the college level.
01:22:32.000And then Jimmy Johnson hired me down in Miami in 1985.
01:23:30.000It's not just going in and stamping something.
01:23:31.000I mean, you know, how aligned is sort of, you know, the strategy or the mentality of the strategy that you used in football to win games the same as moving the ball forward in politics?
01:23:41.000I tell people this, the one thing that's common denominator for everything that we do in life is you have to sell yourself to other people.
01:23:52.000I mean, they can figure out a phone in a heartbeat.
01:23:55.000You've got to be able to communicate, but you've got to be able to sell yourself to three or four people on the Democratic side and get a bill passed.
01:24:03.000You're going to get most people on your side.
01:24:04.000You've got to sell that. But there's no different.
01:24:07.000When I went into somebody's home in Detroit, I had parents sitting there, kid, I need you to come to Auburn.
01:24:23.000And so for any advice I can give to any young people out there is, you know, learn to sell yourself to other people by communicating what you're about and who you are.
01:24:34.000I mean, it's interesting you say that because the two other senators that you talked about are on the other side of the aisle, whether it's Fetterman or Manchin.
01:24:44.000I mean, we forget that. We sort of pick that side.
01:24:45.000But I think sometimes we do have to figure out how to make that work.
01:24:48.000Otherwise, we are going to be in a perpetual stalemate, especially when you talk about a Congress where we have a four-seat majority in the House and, I guess, a one-seat minority in the Senate.
01:25:29.000Speaking of negotiations and getting something back, I heard the Biden administration is now pushing back on removing, I guess, Space Force was going to be located in Alabama.
01:25:39.000Space Command. Your dad put Space Command in Huntsville, but he started Space Force.
01:25:48.000President Trump was smart enough to understand the next war is probably going to be won or lost in space.
01:25:56.000Of course it will. Between satellites and this.
01:25:58.000Exactly. In Alabama, we've got a place called Huntsville that most people hadn't been.
01:26:03.000But let me tell you something. We've got what we call the Redstone Arsenal.
01:26:12.000We protect the world with missile defense from Huntsville.
01:26:17.000We have 600 or 700 defense contractors.
01:26:19.000We build everything from rockets to tanks.
01:26:23.000And we have obviously NASA. We have probably at least 30-40% now of the FBI. We just built them new buildings behind Redstone Arts, all their cyber security.
01:26:55.000And of course when Biden gets into office, he's talked into doing a re-review.
01:27:03.000Well, but the re-review was based on basically Alabama's policy on abortion, which, you know, doesn't have much to do with space, but that doesn't stop the Democrats from radicalizing and again trying to punish people for not just going along with everything that they want.
01:27:29.000So if they're going to start moving all military bases...
01:27:31.000The bastions of most military, frankly, they're not really in the liberal states with the exception of maybe California just because it's so big.
01:27:39.000And if I was a senator from Alabama and I truly thought the best place for us to save our world would be to move Space Command and have it in Colorado, hey, let's go do it.
01:27:53.000But it's not. We did it the right way.
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