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00:04:41.000Well, it's almost embarrassing to admit it at this point, but I was actually once a Hollywood entertainment lawyer, and the path that got me there is a windy one.
00:04:51.000I grew up in Massachusetts and was doing my best to become a successful corporate attorney in 2009-2010 when the market was in the gutter.
00:05:02.000One of the best jobs I got was in LA and segued into Hollywood.
00:05:07.000Once your father got elected, I just knew what moment we were at in history.
00:05:13.000With Marxism at the time banging at the door, now Marxism is in the living room.
00:05:19.000But yeah, I decided to create a meme account, anonymous meme account, to get my voice out there.
00:05:27.000So talk about, listen, I think for our people, the Hollywood thing is going to be sort of fascinating, right?
00:05:33.000These sort of vacuous, low IQ people seem to have this very disproportionate hold on the narrative and on the conversation.
00:05:44.000I think people are getting that, but there's also so much sort of deviance Even surrounding that.
00:05:50.000Like, what did you see in your time there?
00:05:53.000Because, you know, as we learn more and more, man, you go down the rabbit hole on this one.
00:05:58.000And, you know, at first we were called conspiracy theories for thinking this.
00:06:01.000And yet, each and every time they're taking the wrong position on this, you start wondering why.
00:06:06.000Each and every time they end up being involved and tied into some of these scandals that you see.
00:06:11.000What was that like, going into that, you know, pit of vipers?
00:06:21.000I mean, you know, I saw Obama flying out for fundraisers all the time.
00:06:29.000He'd land right outside my window in the helicopters and take a bus.
00:06:32.000I mean, Hollywood's an ATM machine for the Democrat Party.
00:06:35.000And once they lost control, they just, you know, became the hornet's nest of anti-Trump resistance.
00:06:40.000And, you know, one thing that I really hated at the time, and it's kind of Sunk in now, but these award shows for Hollywood were really just political rallies.
00:06:52.000And the people that they were targeting were the, you know, hardworking middle class of which I came from.
00:07:08.000And, you know, they got private jets, mansions or whatever.
00:07:11.000And I also saw, you know, I did deals with the Harvey Weinstein company.
00:07:17.000I did deals with Will Ferrell, Jonah Hill, anyone, LeBron James, with their attorneys.
00:07:24.000And, you know, I wasn't at the level where I saw the kind of Harvey Weinstein sexual crimes.
00:07:36.000But I was at the level where I knew a lot of actors and actresses and agents and producers and whatever.
00:07:42.000And I can't tell you how many women aspiring actresses in that industry have been sexually assaulted while working on film, TV and music projects.
00:07:53.000It's staggering. And by names that are still very well known that have not been MeToo'd.
00:08:37.000And again, for me, I was like, come on, that's nonsense.
00:08:40.000But you hear it over and over, like, wait a minute, there's something there.
00:08:42.000And only now, sort of in hindsight, do you realize, like, Oh my god, they were actually 100% right, and perhaps the worst part of it is that everyone knows, and yet it's shocking how they're covering that up, right?
00:08:54.000It's like, well, we got rid of the one guy that's doing it, now it's not a problem anymore, but it still really is rampant.
00:09:01.000Yeah, there's a lot of problems because you have these pop-up projects in the middle of nowhere.
00:09:06.000You got these people that you'll only meet and see, say you're filming a movie, right, an independent film.
00:09:11.000You'll see him for 30 days. You'll probably never see him again maybe five years later on another project.
00:09:35.000And I, you know, started to post these memes anonymously as DC Drano.
00:09:40.000I thought memes are the most Effective form of communication.
00:09:44.000And, you know, once that account started to grow, I had like 50,000 followers.
00:09:49.000I was like, they're going to eventually find out.
00:09:51.000And it's only a matter of time until I'm canned.
00:09:52.000So I decided to quit everything and move to Florida and give it a shot full time.
00:09:59.000Yeah, no, it's interesting you say that about memes, because, you know, people have given me a hard time when I put, like, sort of, you know, meme war general in my bio, but the reality is, you know, the old saying, you know, a picture says a thousand words, it's sort of amazing how powerful those things are, because... You don't need to say it, but people get it.
00:10:19.000You're sort of driving home the obvious.
00:10:21.000You're doing it with humor. You know, the amount of people that comment like, oh, you need it to me.
00:10:26.000You know, I love that meme about this.
00:10:30.000And, you know, perhaps that's why we start seeing so much of the censorship.
00:10:33.000I've certainly seen that on, you know, Instagram or everything like that, where they take something that's either subjective or Well, there's something that could be potentially mistaken, and they fact check you, fact check you, just try to ding your account, knock you down every step of the way, because it's actually something that's been very effective in getting the points out there, showing the lunacy of what the other side is doing.
00:10:59.000100%. And I think it's, frankly, a reason your dad got elected in 2016 and why he's so successful now.
00:11:06.000Even still today because the meme world loves him and the right has a monopoly on memes.
00:11:13.000The left can't meme. They still can't meme.
00:11:17.000It was, you know, those Halloween costume pictures where and it showed like a guy wearing kind of similar outfit as me with a beard and he goes, costume for conservative guys scared of cities, big cities or whatever, which I thought was hilarious.
00:11:33.000I was like, all right, they got absolutely a good one.
00:11:34.000But Yeah, good reason to be scared of cities these days.
00:11:38.000But, yeah, the left can't meme, and so all they've done, instead of posting better memes to beat us, they've censored us.
00:11:45.000And, you know, you've been censored so much, and shadow banned, and pretty much all of us have.
00:11:51.000But psychologically speaking, you know, meme warfare, people have said that.
00:12:19.000They're entertaining, but the visual, it sticks in your brain so well, and it educates people.
00:12:25.000And so that's what I try to do is include good information in a meme that's memorable and entertaining.
00:12:30.000And yeah, and again, I think it's so easy to package some of these things and just share.
00:12:35.000But yeah, talk about the censorship a little bit, because I know I've had virtual no-growth for month-long periods with very high engagement, right?
00:12:48.000How do you get, I remember there was one time I had, and this was like early, like 16, 17,
00:12:53.000like before it really even became sort of big.
00:12:56.000I had like 2 million followers or something like that total.
00:12:58.000And I had like, it was like 30 million views that month and I got exactly zero followers.
00:13:03.000And I was like, well, I'm obviously shadow banned.
00:13:05.000And I was then called a conspiracy theorist.
00:13:07.000They're like, well, what is your basis?
00:13:09.000It's like, well, I'm not looking at the algorithm, but I know last week I was getting, you know,
00:13:13.000I would get 5,000 retweets of posts or reposts or regrams or views or whatever metric you wanted to look
00:13:19.000at it and today I'm getting They're like, well, 4,000?
00:13:53.000And because, you know, I've always tried to...
00:13:55.000Just build up the people creating that kind of content.
00:13:58.000Now, sometimes you create your own monsters, as we've seen in this world, where all of a sudden now people are salaried influencers.
00:14:05.000What I loved about 16, it was so organic, right?
00:14:07.000People just did it. They believed in their country.
00:14:09.000It wasn't even for Trump, but for the cause.
00:14:12.000Now it's like, oh, for three grand a month, I'll be your influencer and just go after all the people that either helped create you or the people that you got into it for, for money.
00:14:20.000So talk about that change that you've seen probably out there as well.
00:14:24.000It's interesting. One of my friends who's in the business world and donor in the GOP, he goes, find me two or three major Democrat successful meme accounts over 100,000.
00:14:41.000There's probably at least 100, if not a few hundred, over 100,000 in the conservative meme world and growing so expansively.
00:14:50.000The ecosystem is massive, but Yeah, they realize this is an effective form.
00:14:56.000It's kind of like the Rebel Alliance versus the Empire.
00:14:58.000We're this ragtag group of people communicating with smoke signals and cartoons to create a resistance movement against this massive, powerful, fully funded.
00:15:11.000The difference between our influencers and theirs is theirs are paid.
00:15:16.000They've demonetized us on so many things.
00:15:18.000They make it so hard. And like you said, the shadow banning is real.
00:15:21.000I don't know exactly how they do what you're describing.
00:15:24.000I know it's real. Over the last year, I've grown approximately, like, there was a point for almost an entire year I grew zero, which there are times when I grow 100, 200,000 a month.
00:15:36.000So they definitely are targeting us, but it's still, even despite that onslaught of censorship, We are still growing and getting our message out there.
00:15:47.000And I got to give a lot of credit to you, especially because I remember I had like 100,000 followers and meme accounts were not like that big of a deal in the conservative world.
00:15:56.000And you followed me and I think you recognize the potential and the power in these meme accounts.
00:16:04.000You are like a meme general because you've elevated so many accounts by sharing them and reposting them and tagging them that it's We've grown this ecosystem of freedom fighters.
00:16:14.000So, you know, you recognized it early on, and a few years later, they recognized it and now suppress it.
00:16:20.000Yeah, no, that was one of the things I always do.
00:16:22.000It's like, hey, I'm not coming up with a lot of this stuff, but if I'm going to do it...
00:16:25.000You do see a lot of that, though, where guys, like, taking stuff and, like, making it their own.
00:16:29.000Like, if I know my problem now is, like, a thousand people send me the same meme or they crop it and they cut out someone's watermark or something, like...
00:16:36.000When I can, I actually try to give credit because I do think it's so effective.
00:16:40.000And for me, it's not even about, well, is it pro-Trump?
00:16:42.000Is it this? It's like, no, like this is a way that the movement can actually fight back.
00:16:45.000I mean, you sort of used, you know, the Star Wars analogy and you're right.
00:16:48.000Then there's like, you know, the Empire Strikes Back and maybe now, maybe 2024 is the return of the Jedi as led by the Meme Warriors.
00:16:58.000I hope so. I truly, I mean, I think your dad won.
00:17:03.000This is on Rumble, so I think I can say this.
00:17:38.000And then Bill Barr's like, oh, you know, Trump was lying about 2020.
00:17:41.000No, you guys didn't open a single investigation.
00:17:46.000Yeah, like every conspiracy theory that we've seen over the last few years, it will prove to be right.
00:17:52.000Or maybe it's big enough that they'll actually suppress it like they tried to do with the others.
00:17:57.000But hopefully the truth comes out in that one.
00:17:58.000Because, like, again, you know, you don't even have to look at the...
00:18:02.000Does anyone really believe that Joe Biden outperformed Barack Obama in 08?
00:18:07.000Like, by a lot. Like, does anyone believe that for one second?
00:18:11.000And for me, as someone who was on the ground in 16, who was on the ground in 20, if you asked me going into Election Day, and again, I did 104 rallies in October of 2020.
00:18:25.000Like, even in the midst of the insanity going on, that's like four a day.
00:18:29.000I got it. I was on the ground all over the country.
00:18:32.000And if you asked me going into election day where we had a better chance, it wasn't even close that it was 2020.
00:18:39.000But I do believe hundreds of thousands of ballots were cast for people who did not even know who was in the race.
00:18:48.000Could not have told you, but the Democrats are out there.
00:18:50.000They're collecting them. You know, we collect votes.
00:19:02.000Who knows what they're doing to get those ballots?
00:19:04.000But I guarantee you, the people of Pennsylvania and Michigan and some of the other swing states, I bet you there are countless ballots that people probably could not have told you who's even on the ballot.
00:19:17.000I mean, in Michigan, I remember my friend, Austin Fletcher, he did this kind of video on you could search voter names and see when they requested ballots and see when they filed their ballot.
00:21:26.000In many cases, there seems to be a real physical consequence to going against that machine.
00:21:30.000I think they played the same games in 16 with Hillary.
00:21:33.000I think they underestimated what they needed to do.
00:21:37.000I think she's the person most upset with 2020 because she's out there saying, you know, why the hell didn't they do that for me?
00:21:42.000But you can't look at You know, the individual examples, the way they defined probability, right?
00:21:50.000You can't be a rational person, a person capable of, you know, basic math and statistics and be like, oh yeah, 100%, Joe Biden really won that.
00:21:58.000It was legit. Now, I do also think, though, that we have to play the same game going into 2024.
00:22:04.000You know, if we sit there and say, we want election day voting, we want paper ballots, we want IDs, like, I want all of those things.
00:22:10.000But they have, you know, a lot of these state legislators, or they'll intimidate the Republicans on that legislator.
00:22:16.000Then they say, see, even the Republicans vote.
00:22:19.000Yeah, I mean, yeah, with a gun to the heads, the Republicans agreed with you, you're right.
00:22:23.000Because, again, not everyone can take that.
00:22:25.000So, you know, what are your thoughts on playing that game and what we need to be doing 424 to make sure that we can at least level the playing field?
00:22:33.000Because I don't think anyone can look at a single metric, economic, social, or otherwise, and say that Joe Biden and the Democrat Party is doing anything that's not disastrous for our country right now.
00:22:47.000100%. The first thing I'm worried about is what they're going to use to justify election procedure changes in 2024.
00:22:55.000So with COVID, they launched it around January, February.
00:23:03.000And then over the summer, while everyone's kind of getting back into their life a little bit, they start doing the mass mail-in ballots unconstitutional.
00:23:14.000Even in Pennsylvania, the Supreme Court recently ruled you can't do that.
00:23:18.000State legislatures have to approve it, and they didn't.
00:23:24.000Those are unconstitutional. Those ballots should not have counted.
00:23:26.000They didn't even do signature verification, but here's where I'm optimistic.
00:23:31.000Virginia. Virginia showed that with some advanced legal Intervention, Harmeet Dillon was in, and there was like a thousand lawyers, I think, on the ground in Virginia.
00:23:45.000She was in, was it Fairfax County, the largest county, and they tried to pull the funny business, and they shut down the accounting and the voting, and people were like, here we go again.
00:23:55.000And I remember Harmeet Dillon tweeted, I'm here, we're getting this going again, don't worry, we got lawyers on the ground, we're stopping this, boom.
00:24:01.000They counted the votes, and it was a sweep across the entire state.
00:24:05.000I do believe that with enough lawfare of our own, we can overwhelm the fraud, especially without mass mail-in ballots and drop boxes.
00:24:15.000We can do this. And then we fix it from the top down.
00:24:18.000So we have to play the game, and we have to, you know, I love what Carrie Lake is doing, because not only is she not quitting, like other people have when they know it's rigged, But she is changing.
00:24:32.000We have to chip away relentlessly until we get these changes.
00:24:38.000Right now, there is no legal precedent to do a trial on signature verification in Arizona for the first time ever, handed down by the Arizona Supreme Court.
00:24:48.000In Georgia, in Texas, they passed new laws.
00:24:50.000In Florida, in Ohio, there's so many new laws being passed and so many court cases being held down that They can only cheat so much in these swing states that have decent governance.
00:25:02.000So I believe that we just have to overwhelm the fraud as best we can, have lawyers in the right places, file lawsuits in advance, day of, not reactively, and pull this out.
00:25:14.000Yeah, I mean, the reactive one is a hard one, though, because sometimes, because you just don't know which game they're going to play.
00:25:39.000I'm like, wait, wait, you mean... They did, what was it, like, you know, umpteen hundred thousand signature verifications at three seconds apiece.
00:25:58.000Like, they know they were bullied into something, and that's why it's so important to not just have, you know, the legal people there, but the volunteers.
00:26:04.000They need to be of a certain, you know, you need a certain level of balls.
00:26:09.000Because you're going to be cannon fodder.
00:28:28.000Now all we need is to overwhelm this fraud and get in there and clean house.
00:28:33.000Because if we don't, it's your father or no one for me.
00:28:37.000I don't think anyone else is going to take on the machine like he does.
00:28:40.000You know, I really like how Governor DeSantis is doing in Florida, but the fact that he's partnered up with the establishment to try and take on your father shows me he's not going to clean house.
00:28:51.000He'll play ball. He'll get some good things done if he was in, but your dad is what we need to actually create a government for the people, by the people, and of the people.
00:29:00.000Otherwise, we have no shot in the future.
00:29:03.000Yeah, so talk about that a little bit further.
00:29:04.000I mean, I know you had dinner with them recently.
00:29:07.000I mean, you know, and I think that's what scares them the most.
00:29:10.000That's why you see, again, the establishment rhinos going, Trump can't possibly do anything.
00:29:14.000Like, they're scared that a sort of a one-term Trump, you know, someone who doesn't need to get re-elected again, someone who doesn't need to make friends, someone now who has the experience of just how corrupted D.C. is, who the bad guys are.
00:29:30.000I mean... To me, that scares the ever-living hell out of them, because these people talk about Trump being unchained, but imagine Trump unchained with the receipts, knowing all of these things, and not caring about anything for D.C. That's, to me, the only combination that will ever put a dent in these guys.
00:29:52.000I think we understood the swamp going in a little bit.
00:29:54.000I don't think anyone understood just how bad it is, just how evil it is, just how incompetent.
00:30:03.000But, you know, I think that's why you're seeing that sort of unified attack of all the people in the establishment, all the billionaire donor class, because that's a whole other level of, you know, yeah, we're kind of maga as long as, you know, I don't want to piss off China too much.
00:30:18.000I mean, they're as bad as the NBA and the Democrats with some of this stuff.
00:30:21.000Talk about that in those conversations that you had with him, because again, I think that's why you're seeing such a push from that establishment to try to find anyone.
00:30:29.000I mean, the amount of people that have gotten into this race in the last few weeks is pretty amazing.
00:30:36.000And everyone that gets into this race, your dad should be happy, because that's just splitting the anti-Trump vote even further.
00:30:45.000Because the MAGA people, and they're going to screw themselves, the MAGA base does not forget Who did what when?
00:30:53.000We all supported him for four plus years.
00:30:56.000We had his back. He crossed us on January 6th.
00:30:58.000He's done forever. What these people are doing is flirting with the end of their political careers because the MAGA movement is the most powerful political movement in this country.
00:31:07.000It's only growing because middle class, hardworking people on both sides of all races, of all sexualities, whatever, are sick and tired of the corruption.
00:31:16.000You know, seeing $100 billion sent over to Ukraine while our border is being flooded open.
00:31:21.000So we're done with it. So I very much, you know, I've told so many people, you know, tweeted it.
00:31:27.000Hey, Ron DeSantis, everyone, please, you guys don't know what you're dealing with here.
00:31:32.000If you're going to be attacking Trump while he's getting indicted by the deep state, people are going to hate you.
00:31:38.000They're going to hate you. We need everyone unified to help them because We're good to go.
00:32:05.000100%. Tim Scott, when Mar-a-Lago got raided by the FBI, he said, well, let's just wait to see how the facts play out here.
00:32:13.000He's an establishment. That's all you need.
00:32:15.000And everyone knows it. Tens of millions of people, they see and hear that Nikki Haley.
00:32:20.000Oh, we should accept the results of 2020.
00:32:22.000Wait, hold on, Nikki. But yeah, going back to the dinner with your dad, I was honored and thankful that I was invited to go with him to the Iowa rally.
00:32:31.000They got shut down because of the Tornado warnings, which is crazy to me that people would give him any grief for that.
00:32:37.000Do you realize that a tornado warning means that it could happen in like 10 seconds?
00:32:43.000A tornado can come and kill dozens of people crowded in a field.
00:32:47.000So that was crazy. But yeah, he ended up bringing us back to Mar-a-Lago and he was so generous, so nice.
00:35:40.000When you're first getting attacked from friends and family, a lot of people did not want me to do this.
00:35:48.000I'll be honest. I think God is calling a lot of people to stand in the breach right now.
00:35:53.000I think people like you, like Candace Owens, like Matt Gaetz, like Anna Paulina, like Byron Donald, like Carrie Lake, I think God is calling up A lot of people to be warriors for goodness.
00:36:22.000It's not going to be easy. But I do believe if we wake up enough people, we can stop this from destroying the entire planet because they do want A lot fewer people on this planet.
00:36:37.000I mean, it's the kind of thing that, you know, if you would have said it even five, six years ago, you'd be like, okay, that's hyperbole.
00:36:41.000And yet, literally every single decision, every move that they make, every policy they want to put, it's like, I can't even come to another conclusion at this point.
00:36:52.000I mean, I remember, you know, when I used to be a real estate developer from Manhattan, you know, it was different.
00:36:59.000But, you know, whatever switched in the other side as well.
00:37:03.000And, you know, That rational, reasonable discourse doesn't seem to exist in the party.
00:37:08.000And I'm not saying there's not sort of moderate Democrats out there anymore, but I don't think they have any representation because you have to be this radical.
00:37:17.000I mean, in these races that we're talking about, the Senate races, the House, we're outspent usually by at least five to one.
00:37:25.000Right? We don't have the help of the mainstream media.
00:37:32.000You know, when you think about how close some of these races are with, you know, five, ten to one deficits in spending, the artificial boosting that, you know, we understand how much can be, as well as the, you know, artificial subversion, you know, by big tech and big social of other ideas or the corollary or bad news thing, you know, Hunter Biden laptop.
00:37:52.000I mean, The fact that these things are even close tells me that perhaps for the first time ever, you know, conservatives are actually, you know, we're winning the culture war in a sense, but we're up against, you know, like you said, you know, biblical or in this case demonic sort of forces that we have to overwhelm, you know, at all costs.
00:39:13.000My enemy are the very powerful people at the top, psychologically manipulating them and setting up these incentive systems and punishing the good people.
00:39:30.000The Republicans are often worse because you assume that they have our best interests at heart.
00:39:35.000We've seen a lot of that as of late from the big mainstream media.
00:39:40.000What Fox did to Tucker, for example, cutting off a voice That did actually speak truth to power, not just to the Democrats, but also to the Republicans.
00:39:49.000And then you see the Republican response to that.
00:39:53.000Like, off the record, to Politico, we're thrilled that Tucker Carlson's no longer there because now we can go and support the war in Ukraine without...
00:40:00.000Repercussions. I'm like, wait a minute.
00:40:01.000So, like, you were elected to D.C. by a constituency that does not want the war.
00:40:07.000And Mitch McConnell can tell you until he's blue in the face that it's the most important thing for Republicans.
00:40:13.000Like, I don't know any Republican who thinks the Ukraine war and our continued and perpetual funding of it is the number one issue.
00:40:20.000Now, they're worried about the potential escalation to World War III, but...
00:40:24.000But the Republican rhino, let's call it uniparty approach to what's going on there with the blank check, that is not something anyone thinks is a priority or should be a priority in the Republican Party.
00:40:35.000But they're thrilled that one of their biggest voices is unilaterally dismissed because it allows them to do the opposite of what they were elected to do, which is some scary shit.
00:40:52.000Who have seen actual war are probably the most nervous about this because they're the ones that would have to fight it and they know the true cost of this stuff.
00:41:06.000Well, A, it's no coincidence that two weeks after, a month after Tucker's gone, now we're sending F-16s to Ukraine after Bakhmut was just lost.
00:41:16.000I mean, it's getting very scary out there, but they got rid of Tucker.
00:41:27.000They, you know, I don't know if this is directly connected, but James O'Keefe is no longer with Project Veritas.
00:41:34.000So, you know, these massive voices have been removed from these powerful institutions, and it's an all-out assault.
00:41:41.000But here's the one thing that really gives me a lot of hope.
00:41:44.000Think of the station in the program that we're talking on, Rumble.
00:41:48.000Think of how many people are communicating freely on Truth Social and even Twitter to an extent.
00:41:55.000We are developing these parallel economic opportunities that there are going to be billionaires made from this.
00:42:03.000That when these market brands go fully woke, it allows an opportunity for a replacement to fill in the void.
00:42:13.000And with our social media, with our media companies Rumble and your podcasts and others, It is creating an unstoppable ecosystem that over the next five to ten years is going to be massive.
00:42:28.000It's sort of like the election stuff and sort of like everything in America, right?
00:42:31.000They can cancel one guy when it's Donald Trump going out by himself.
00:42:35.000You know, 165 million Americans, 175 million Americans, maybe win over some independents, you know, 50% of the electorate, like, It becomes a lot harder all of a sudden.
00:42:45.000And so, you know, that whole notion of just sort of becoming unafraid, I think, is so critical.
00:42:51.000Once that happens, you're going to force these people to actually change because I don't know that they can continue their business.
00:42:58.000When I look at, you know, Target and the...
00:43:00.000I mean, there's no other word for it other than grooming at this point.
00:43:04.000You look at the big pharmacies and they're, you know, they're going to have the dildos right next to the children's toys because they're all toys, I guess.
00:43:18.000Listen, I think Public Square is really on to something.
00:43:21.000Finding those, we talk about it on this show with all our sponsors, find those that are aligned with your interests, support them.
00:43:27.000Like, there's so much more at stake than just that business, but especially as we get now into, you know, crazy times, you see the economy, you see the banks collapsing, you see the, like, you know, if we're going to help someone, help those that share your values.
00:44:06.000I just wanted to be a cop. I talked with I'll come across at conferences, whatever, young people who know the full kind of down low on how corrupt everything is on the elections, on the Ukraine war, everything. Once you're awake, you don't go back to sleep in terms of what is actually going on in this country.
00:44:29.000And we are eventually going to hit a critical mass of people.
00:44:32.000How many people were woken up during COVID with the lockdown?
00:44:35.000Hey, I used to be a Democrat, but I'm not.
00:44:40.000And not only are millions of people waking up who are never going to go back to sleep in that sense, but we are creating, like I said, multi-billion dollar economic opportunities for everything we don't like.
00:46:34.000Oh six or something like that like it was like 14 years ago, so it's like how do you have records?
00:46:39.000Luckily my buddy who I actually flew down with he was like his pilot kept like meticulous records and I showed it to him and they're like It wasn't like they were trying to do—it was like I ripped the guy's heart out.
00:46:51.000All he wanted to do was come up with a way to link me to Epstein.
00:46:54.000I go, like, strangely, why didn't you spend this much time on Bill Clinton?
00:46:59.000Why don't you spend any time on, you know, Bill Gates?
00:47:02.000I mean, these are people that have been credibly linked in much more than just they happen to be, you know— On a similar island at the same time, but you went so far out of your way, and you're so upset that it ends up being nonsense, and yet I've seen no reporting about the people who had intimate, personal, long-term relationships who are visiting this island, and yet the only thing you wanted to do was try to tie me to it, and you have no interest on the people who are actually doing these things.
00:47:31.000It's the easiest debunking to do in today's digital age.
00:47:36.000When people try and tie you or your father to Epstein, it's like, listen, if they were on that list, the client list, we would have known.
00:47:45.000That list would have been public 10 years ago.
00:47:48.000No, the list would be 100% redacted other than Donald Trump's name, right?
00:47:54.000LeJane Maxwell is doing 25 years, Rogan, for apparently trafficking people to nobody.
00:48:02.000Nobody. It's amazing that she can go to jail for 25 years, but the people that actually took part in the exploitation of these children, the people who actually committed those acts and did those deeds that she's serving 25 years for, nothing can happen.
00:49:24.000We're probably, unfortunately, going to get hit by Georgia and, you know, document hoax and whatever.
00:49:31.000Meanwhile, What they're also doing is trying to criminalize self-defense.
00:49:37.000We're seeing with these Soros-funded DAs, with Daniel Penny in New York City.
00:49:42.000I just saw in a county outside Memphis, which has a liberal DA, even though it's Tennessee, they're charging a guy with reckless endangerment who fired back at people that fired at him after trying to steal his car, right? And they're saying, well, because the guy was saying he had his eyes closed a little bit while he was shooting because, you know, hey, it's kind of a live fire.
00:50:56.000Like, it's not even a question, but...
00:50:59.000If anyone doesn't see beyond this, this is an active attempt.
00:51:04.000One day you, your loved one, someone will either be in this position to be a potential victim or to be the potential good Samaritan to get one of your loved ones in or out of these situations, whatever it may be, right?
00:51:19.000This is an attempt to make sure that person is on the sidelines, whether it's that, the attack on the Second Amendment, all the things they're doing there, the pistol bracelet.
00:51:27.000They want to make sure the only person that isn't going to get charged for defending themselves or someone around them is the person that dies doing so.
00:51:38.000That's acceptable to the left in these days.
00:51:40.000But that's why the Daniel Penny thing is so important because they're just setting a marker To make sure that anyone else that's ever in that situation be like, man, I could probably defuse that, but man, if shit happens, if sort of the one in a million chance happens, I got to subdue someone and they get hurt, they crack their head, whatever it may be, that person's going to be given the benefit of the doubt.
00:52:03.000No one believes that what happened to George Floyd should have happened to George Floyd.
00:52:06.000No one said he should have been murdered, but like, You know, the guy ain't a hero.
00:52:21.000Daniel Penny... Is kind of the first one where we've been able to, and with the bike lady, we've been able to stop the lie pretty quickly.
00:52:31.000They can jump on it for a day or two, but we do end up stopping it with social media.
00:52:35.000With Michael Brown, we didn't have the social media to stop this type of lie and this narrative.
00:52:41.000And people, I think like 80-something percent of people in a recent poll have a negative view of Black Lives Matter because after they saw Buy Large Mansions, They just saw the money laundering hustle.
00:53:59.000You know, I understand that I am not the upstanding human being that Hunter Biden is, but when it...
00:54:05.000You get turned down for legal counsel or banking or insurance or the canceling.
00:54:09.000We just got to hit back in equal force.
00:54:15.000Rogan, if you're to break it down, because you have all these machinations, all these people trying to bastardize it, try to make it whatever it is that they want for the establishment party, and or just trying to vilify it, but what would you describe the meaning of America first to be?
00:54:36.000Vox Populi, what the people truly want, and what the people truly want has become painfully obvious.
00:54:44.000We don't want to be involved in foreign wars and send our family members over there.
00:54:48.000My brother fought in Iraq as a paratrooper, and I can't, you know, as damaging as this is for the soldiers, it's very tough on the families, too, and a hundred times tougher for those that get injured or don't make it home.
00:55:03.000We don't want to send our money overseas.
00:55:06.000Until we don't have potholes on our roads, until we don't have veterans homeless on the street, not a single dollar should be sent overseas.
00:55:18.000We want the energy industry, we want energy independence in this country.
00:55:23.000That's the main reason why our inflation is out of control is because we're suffocating our own energy.
00:55:28.000We want good to be Celebrated and protected and evil to be destroyed.
00:55:37.000And we want to support family units and support these kids while they're in the womb, as they're growing up, with good schools, good communities.
00:55:48.000We don't want to poison their brains and mutilate them and sterilize them.
00:55:53.000And we want free and fair elections and free speech.
00:57:17.000Does anyone understand how much time that is?
00:57:21.000What's your view on what we're not being told about J6? I mean, the Tucker stuff was great, and it exposed so many lies.
00:57:28.000The fact that it took two years to get exculpatory evidence to these people who did nothing, the fact that there's no due process happening should enrage us all.
00:57:48.000Chuck Schumer, even Mitch McConnell, both sides saying, Rupert Murdoch, shut this down.
00:57:55.000And I believe I'm a huge fan of Tucker, and he is not on him to do all the heavy lifting in our country, for sure.
00:58:03.000I believe that it had an impact on his reporting because the first night, you had actual huge revelations, went massively viral, proved and confirmed what almost all of us knew, that J6 was a Fed setup, okay?
00:58:21.000I was on the list with, you know, you and Kayleigh McEnany and like 30 other people when they first did their big announcement, the January 6th committee, and they were like, we want every record on Rogan O'Hanley from the FBI, the NSA. And I'm like, what the hell did I do?
00:58:36.000I didn't go in the Capitol. I was supposed to speak.
00:58:49.000I didn't see a single ounce of violence.
00:58:52.00099% of the people there were peaceful.
00:58:55.000And then I get home and I saw that people were inside.
00:58:59.000They were You know fighting the cops or whatever and I'm like what the hell is going on?
00:59:04.000I've been to 50 different MAGA rallies.
00:59:07.000I've never seen something like this and I immediately said Antifa was involved in this and three letter agencies were involved in this because I've literally studied this stuff overseas.
00:59:17.000I did a study abroad in Egypt studying civil liberties and a dictatorship and what they do.
00:59:24.000They infiltrate with federal agents and cause fights and We're good to go.
00:59:49.000Because it shows, like you said, their crimes.
00:59:52.000How is it trespassing for, you know, MAGA grandma walking through the Capitol, but not trespassing for a federal agent?
00:59:59.000You know, like certain people won't say their name that, you know, we got to go into the Capitol, blah, blah, blah.
01:00:05.000And then those guys don't get arrested.
01:00:07.000Well, not only do they, by the way, not only do they not get arrested, because you're talking.
01:00:11.000I imagine you're talking about Ray Epps, but not only do they not get arrested, but they have like the Clinton and Democrat Party legal team helping them out.
01:00:20.000You know, there's great, you know, MAGA patriots.
01:00:23.000It's the only person, you know, you or I couldn't get representation from these firms, let alone from the individuals involved.
01:00:28.000And yet they're magically representing them in court.
01:00:33.000And by the way, if you don't believe the other parts are a set up, You know, you would think that it would be a really big deal that someone laid bombs outside the DNC and the RNC. They may not care about the RNC, but they certainly would affect or go after the people that did it at the DNC. And yet, nothing has happened.
01:01:09.000Yeah, they haven't after two years where you can see video footage of this individual on their phone.
01:01:16.000How do they not have the geo-tracking for that?
01:01:18.000But you know what someone said to me that made total sense?
01:01:20.000So A, not only did that take resources away from the Capitol, which they were undermanned, underfunded, But it also put a lot of what happened that day under the jurisdiction of the FBI instead of just the Capitol Police.
01:01:35.000And so now that we control the House, which largely controls the Capitol Police, we can't get into those records because they're held by the FBI. And the FBI says, well, national security, blah, blah, blah.
01:01:46.000Turns out the national security is protecting their informants and their undercover agents in the 11,000 hours of video.
01:01:52.000So it's another conspiracy theory proven true.
01:01:57.000um and the ultimate one that will be proven true at some point is that joe biden got the most votes in american history that is the craziest conspiracy yeah like a three-year-old could tell you that one but uh you know but no he is the he's the most popular president in the history of uh the world joe rogan's unreal like it's it's ridiculous that So this is one, you recently had a little bit of an ominous tweet about what you think the establishment's going to do to meddle in the kind of the 24 election.
01:02:32.000You wrote, my biggest worry is what scheme the system will use in 2024.
01:02:37.000And you brought up the idea of more war and conflict.
01:02:42.000You know, what are you seeing out there, you know, that leads you to believe that we're getting closer to World War III, other than, you know, finding out that we have boots on the ground in Ukraine up against, you know...
01:02:52.000The largest nuclear arsenal by volume of nuclear warhead in the world.
01:02:56.000Yeah. We're, you know, a handful of miles away from Russia on our Alaska border there, and we're flirting with, you know, sending F-16s against them in a war zone.
01:03:17.000We saw what happened in 2020 with the mail-in ballots.
01:03:20.000We saw it happen in Maricopa when they shut down election machines in 58, 59 percent of locations in the most Republican district on election day.
01:03:29.000They always kind of come up with a new scheme to pull off their heist.
01:03:33.000I am very worried what they're going to do in 2024 because right now your dad, even with, you know, these indictments, these investigations, His polls are shooting up through the roof.
01:03:46.000There's an ABC poll that shows him up by 7 over Joe Biden nationally.
01:03:49.000They didn't have him up once in 2020, right?
01:03:52.000Things are going too well for him in the polls.
01:03:56.000So I am worried that they are going to try a new scheme in 2024.
01:04:01.000I think the options are World War III. Oh, can't go to the polls.
01:04:06.000We're in a war. You've got to vote from home or something.
01:05:34.000I don't know what their scheme is, but I know they got something.
01:05:37.000They're not gonna hand power back without the biggest fight they've ever had and they will steal it right in front of our faces.
01:05:43.000So my request of everyone watching this is stay attuned to this potential plan that they're doing and let's hopefully stop it before they can Yeah.
01:06:14.000There's so many more sheep in our country than I thought.
01:06:17.000I actually figured there'd be a lot more resistance to some of this stuff, which I think accelerated some of the radical ideas because they understand that they can manipulate people so easily.
01:06:29.000But yes, it feels like, you know, I can't think of a reasonable end to this war otherwise.
01:06:34.000So they got to keep it going for as long as possible.
01:06:36.000It's there to enrich the military-industrial complex.
01:06:39.000It's become the new religion of the left, so they can use that to generate the sort of hype that they need.
01:06:46.000You know, it's replaced, you know, COVID and Fauci, you know, as Lord and Savior or religion and Lord with new religion and Lord, which is, you know, Ukraine and Zelensky.
01:06:57.000That replaced, you know, Thunberg and climate change a little while ago.
01:07:02.000And maybe we'll see the re-emergence of climate change as the, you know, the religion of the left again.
01:07:08.000I don't know. You know, I've seen the scandals, and I know there'll be some of them, but when you look at the scandals, you know, like Russiagate, all based on a lie, used as a soft coup against the sitting president of the United States, In your opinion, how does a functioning democracy even recover from something like this?
01:07:27.000Because we know it's out there now, and it got exactly like zero mainstream media coverage.
01:07:33.000The people that screamed, democracy, democracy, the loudest for the last seven years are like, it's fine.
01:07:40.000It's not a big deal. Let's pretend like this didn't happen.
01:08:16.000And they, you know, and now we find out they didn't investigate voting fraud in 2020 at all.
01:08:24.000And they shut down the Hunter Biden laptop release, which is interference that would have changed potentially 15% of people's votes.
01:08:34.000So it is irrefutable that our FBI and our intelligence agencies, most of them, are irredeemably corrupt.
01:08:43.000What do we do? Do we turn a blind eye and say, oh, I guess that's just what happens.
01:08:48.000Politics is politics. Or do we send in a wrecking ball supported by the people with control of the House and the Senate and reform these agencies?
01:08:57.000I personally would like to see some of them just completely destroyed.
01:09:02.000I think they're irrelevant. Why do we have an ATF if we have the FBI? It's like, why do we have a DEA if we have the FBI? But we need to absolutely reform these agencies with In a historic way, in ways that have never been done before, and I don't know quite what that entails, but if we don't, it is a cancer on our country that is going to kill the patient.
01:09:35.000You know, I happen to be pretty close with the one guy I think that will actually do that, right?
01:09:39.000That's, and again, that's the big difference is who's the guy that will actually do that.
01:09:43.000If I believe there were others in the bench that would, you know, I'd even be happy to step out of this because, you know, again, it was a lot easier being a real estate developer, but There's one guy that can do that, and then there's a bunch of people working for the establishment.
01:09:58.000Maybe the last question I'd have for you as we're talking about that, you know, again, there were times I thought we had perhaps a deeper bench than we actually have, you know, for the future of the movement, for the future of, you know, I'll say conservatism, not necessarily Republican, because I think that's been bastardized, but for the future of America First.
01:10:15.000Then we saw the waffling, whether it was on Ukraine, whether it was on the significance of the deep state meddling this way.
01:10:37.000I couldn't remember his name. It's like, what does that say about the rest of the banks that these guys sort of see there's an opening in there?
01:10:43.000Because I don't think it's a... Me personally, I don't think it's a shot at like, well, this is the opening to take out Trump.
01:10:49.000I think they see an opening in the rest of the ranks playing for number two.
01:10:53.000What are your thoughts? I think that's a good point.
01:11:24.000Our bench may look a little bit empty right now because the people we would actually support who are true MAGA are not going to compete against President Trump in the primary.
01:11:34.000They understand that they're going to support him and unify the GOP. We don't want a bloody primary that weakens President Trump that takes hundreds of millions of dollars and divides.
01:11:48.000Divide and conquer is the number one strategy.
01:11:50.000And I think they're pushing Governor DeSantis to run.
01:11:54.000I don't think he necessarily would have if it was just his decision, but I think they're pushing him to do it because it not only will weaken President Trump, but it should also very strongly weaken Governor DeSantis For the future.
01:12:07.000And so that's kind of like two MAGA guys taken out all at once.
01:12:10.000That's a theory. But I think our best leaders are rightfully sitting on the bench this term.
01:12:18.000And the next election cycle, we're going to see hopefully some big names run.
01:12:32.000Well, you know, at a certain point, some of us are just going to have to say, all right, if we don't have good guys, we're going to have to do it ourselves.
01:12:42.000Matt Gates, Byron Donalds, Carrie Lake, just beginning for her.
01:12:46.000So I know we've got some good fighters for the future, and they're just staying quiet right now, as they should, to help unify the GOP. I agree with you a lot, Ben, and I really appreciate it, Rogan.
01:12:57.000Thanks so much, guys. Go check out DC Drano on every social platform.
01:13:02.000Do you have anything else out there that maybe they're not aware of, Rogan?