Triggered - Donald Trump Jr


Equal Justice is Dead: Live with Revolver News Founder Darren Beattie | TRIGGERED Ep. 22


Summary

On today's episode of Triggered, we are joined by Darren Beattie, the founder and editor of Revolver News, to discuss the latest in the Ray Epps case, the ongoing investigation into whether or not the pipe bomb attacks were politically motivated, and the ongoing case against Trump's father, Donald Trump Jr. by the New York City DA's office. We also discuss the new indictments and the implications for the future of the case, and how the left is playing for keeps in order to keep up the pressure on the President and his family. We also talk about the latest on the Uranium One scandal, and why we should all be worried about the possibility that Trump will be impeached by the Supreme Court. And, of course, we have a special guest, the man who broke the original Ray Eppes story and who broke it all along with his exclusive reporting on the FBI investigation into the January 6th, 2019 attack on the Democratic National Convention in Las Vegas. Darren is joined by John Bolton to discuss all of that, and much more. Subscribe to our new podcast, TRAPPED! Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Subscribe on Podchaser Subscribe on Stitcher Learn more about your ad choices. Like, Share, comment and subscribe on whatever you're listening to - it helps us spread the word about what we're listening about! to the world! and the importance of our work. Thank you for listening to our work! - we really appreciate it! Timestamps: 5:00 - 6: 7:30 - 7: 8:15 - What would you like to support us? 9:00 11: What do you think of the work we do? 12:00 | What's your favorite part of the piece? 15:00 + 1) - Is it a scam? 16:30 17:40 - How much do you agree with it? 18:30 | Is it better than the work? 19:10 - What does it matter? 21: Is it enough? 22:10 23:40 27: What are you looking forward? 26:00 Is it possible? 25: What's the worst thing you're going to get more than that? 30: What kind of evidence? 35:00 Do you think it's better? 36:00 -- Is it more?


Transcript

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00:00:36.000 good evening guys and welcome to another episode of triggered
00:00:51.000 Today, we're joined by Darren Beattie, the founder and editor of Revolver News.
00:00:57.000 Darren's going to break down the state of the country and talk about some of his exclusive reporting, some really amazing stuff.
00:01:03.000 He's the guy that broke the original Ray Epps story, literally just in talking a few minutes ago.
00:01:11.000 Some of those additional connections, to me, it sounds like this is going to be yet another Of about the 100% of conspiracy theories that later proved to be 100% accurate because of course they were and they were always rooted in common sense and logic and at all times they were always the most plausible answer.
00:01:33.000 He was also the guy that broke the story about the January 6th pipe bombs which seemed to disappear from the news.
00:01:39.000 You would think That if it wasn't a setup, that perhaps you'd hear a little bit more about it.
00:01:46.000 You'd think that maybe there'd be a little effort, like more than nothing, to try to find that, but it almost feels like maybe there didn't need to be an effort because they were able to manufacture whatever else they needed from the rest of January 6th that...
00:02:02.000 They didn't need to go to the extremes of the pipe bombs.
00:02:05.000 They could manufacture the crisis just fine with what they were given and what they withheld from the American public.
00:02:11.000 But before we get into that, the political persecution of my father in New York reminds us all what the stakes of the fight that we are in are.
00:02:25.000 The left is playing for keeps, guys.
00:02:27.000 And I've been saying this for a long time.
00:02:29.000 We're playing t-ball.
00:02:32.000 While they're playing hardball.
00:02:34.000 They want their opponents in jail, their children's genitals mutilated.
00:02:40.000 They seem to be just fine with that.
00:02:42.000 That seems to be one of the pillars of the Democrat Party these days.
00:02:46.000 They want our borders open, allowing fentanyl and human trafficking to run rampant and kill people.
00:02:54.000 Our children, our loved ones, our friends and neighbors all over the country.
00:02:58.000 They want criminals to run free and our country to be unrecognizable.
00:03:04.000 We have no choice, folks.
00:03:06.000 We have none. But to fight.
00:03:08.000 The Marxists are not letting up.
00:03:11.000 They will not let up.
00:03:13.000 They were never going to let up.
00:03:14.000 And frankly, I think what this week showed us all is that we are so further gone than we ever imagined.
00:03:20.000 It just took Trump to show it to everyone, right?
00:03:25.000 We probably went and crossed the Rubicon quite a while ago, but they give us the illusion of freedom and the illusion of Thought.
00:03:35.000 And we can pretend that we're all these things until you actually try to do it like Trump did.
00:03:38.000 That's when they lose their minds.
00:03:41.000 So, the Alvin Bragg New York City District Attorney indictment is already falling apart.
00:03:49.000 They've all come out and admitted that this Bragg case is total bullshit.
00:03:54.000 Okay? CNN analysts are out there calling it, let's just say, underwhelming.
00:04:01.000 And if that's coming from CNN, You know it's really underwhelming.
00:04:05.000 Check it out. Not be.
00:04:09.000 Your reaction now that you've had a chance to go through it, is it what you thought it was going to be and are you unimpressed?
00:04:18.000 It is what I thought it was going to be in terms of focusing on the payments that were made, the falsification of the records and really tied to the payment that was made to Stormy Daniels in terms of a case that's being brought against a former president It's a little underwhelming.
00:04:39.000 There's not more to it.
00:04:42.000 There's not more violations, tax violations.
00:04:46.000 There's not an incredible new set of facts that we didn't know about publicly.
00:04:51.000 It's really the facts of this case as they have existed for basically almost seven years.
00:05:00.000 But that's not what they were hoping for, folks.
00:05:02.000 Remember, just like Russia, Russia, Russia, just like Impeachment 1 and 2 and Ukraine hoax and every other hoax they've lied to us about over the last seven years, they were hoping for so much more.
00:05:14.000 Remember, the walls are closing in.
00:05:16.000 They've been closing in forever, folks.
00:05:18.000 And if that's the best that CNN can come up with, you know it's a disaster.
00:05:22.000 But that isn't it.
00:05:26.000 Even Jeb Bush...
00:05:28.000 And John Bolton have come out and said that this case is garbage and they probably hate Trump more than CNN, which is hard to believe.
00:05:38.000 What do you think of the indictment?
00:05:40.000 Well, speaking as someone who very strongly does not want Donald Trump to get the Republican presidential nomination, I'm extraordinarily distressed by this document.
00:05:49.000 I think this is even weaker than I feared it would be.
00:05:52.000 And I think it's easily subject to being dismissed or a quick acquittal for Trump.
00:05:59.000 Just speaking, going back to the days when I represented Jim Buckley and Gene McCarthy and the constitutional challenge to the underlying federal statute here passed in 1974, I can say there is no basis in the statutory language to say that Trump's behavior forms either a contribution or an expenditure under federal law, the two key definitions at issue here.
00:06:21.000 If it did, it would mean that every single expenditure a candidate made could be taken to have something to do with this campaign.
00:06:29.000 Do I buy a $1 comb to comb my hair or a $10 comb to comb my hair?
00:06:35.000 If you can construe the statute to cover this behavior, then I think it violates the First Amendment because you're deeply into territory that makes this statute absolutely, a federal statute, too vague for enforcement.
00:06:49.000 And as what I understood the district attorney to say that he thinks there's a New York election law involved here, all I can say is the Federal Election Campaign Act absolutely preempts any state or local law to the contrary.
00:07:02.000 How could it be otherwise?
00:07:03.000 You've got one law governing corporate finance in a presidential election at the federal level.
00:07:08.000 You're going to have 50 state laws interfering with it.
00:07:10.000 So he's just wrong on the applicability of the New York statute.
00:07:16.000 Now, we all understand John Bolton doesn't love Donald Trump because Donald Trump doesn't want to go to war with everyone.
00:07:22.000 But so far, it seems as though everyone is in agreement that Bragg's case is nonsense and that he's weaponizing the justice system for political purposes, like the fascists.
00:07:35.000 Remember the fascists?
00:07:36.000 Like, everyone's a fascist when you say anything against the Democrat Party, but when they do it, they're fighting for democracy, folks!
00:07:43.000 Guess what? No one that's a conservative has done anything near fascism, and yet everything that the Democrat Party stands for these days is exactly that, right?
00:07:55.000 It's the old Saul Owenski rules for radicals.
00:07:58.000 Accuse them of doing the stuff that you're doing, and we all know where the Democrat Party is and the things they're doing, and they should be honestly embarrassed.
00:08:07.000 And any of the former leaders of that party would be rolling over in their graves understanding what's going on there right now.
00:08:15.000 Where are the Democrats, though, calling for Alvin Bragg to resign?
00:08:20.000 Unless they can call it nonsense, they can realize it's not there, but still be tacitly accepting of the fact that you'd weaponize the full force and strength of the United States government to go after the leader of the opposition party.
00:08:35.000 Which is exactly what's going on.
00:08:37.000 See, even though the left recognizes that Bragg is abusing his power, they won't call for him to resign because they want him to abuse his power.
00:08:47.000 That's who they are.
00:08:48.000 That's what they've done.
00:08:50.000 All you have to do is look back.
00:08:52.000 And again, until Trump...
00:08:55.000 It was the same, but we didn't see it because they didn't need to lose their minds.
00:09:00.000 The pendulum has corrected so far.
00:09:02.000 Trump brought that out in them because he didn't want to be in endless wars.
00:09:08.000 He wanted to be and was able to become energy independent.
00:09:11.000 He was able to fight for the American worker rather than the donor class and the billionaire class that all the Democrats are.
00:09:19.000 They want to defeat us at all costs, and they don't care if they destroy the country in the process, since it's pretty clear they hate America anyway, right?
00:09:30.000 And of course the media is happy to help them do their bidding each and every moment of the day.
00:09:37.000 For example, during my father's speech on Tuesday night, as he's literally talking about the weaponization Of America and its institutions and government.
00:09:48.000 ABC News actually blurred out the text 88022 sign.
00:09:54.000 Like the Trump campaign donation sign that was on his podium.
00:09:58.000 They blurred it out. Notice they don't do that when Joe Biden speaks and he has that.
00:10:02.000 Or probably any other Republicans.
00:10:04.000 But they blurred out a campaign message from a declared candidate.
00:10:12.000 In the presidential race in America in 2024.
00:10:16.000 Now we understand that ABC News is a subsidiary of Walt Disney Corporation.
00:10:22.000 So it shouldn't surprise anyone that these woke clowns would do that.
00:10:27.000 But to me that sounds like an in-kind contribution to the Democrat Party.
00:10:32.000 My father's raised north of $10 million since the indictment because people realize he's the only one that can push back.
00:10:40.000 He's the only one willing to go up against these lunatics.
00:10:44.000 He's the only one willing to burn it all down.
00:10:47.000 And now, after what they've done to him, I think they're even more afraid.
00:10:52.000 How is that not election interference?
00:10:57.000 How is it not?
00:10:58.000 How is that not an in-kind contribution?
00:11:01.000 They can just arbitrarily decide who gets what and gets to say what.
00:11:08.000 Think of how insane this is.
00:11:10.000 From one of the major news stations in America, and of course, they're as woke as they come because they're owned by Disney, and I'm sure that came from higher up.
00:11:18.000 Same people that want to jam drag queen story hours and drag queen this and drag queen that and everything's drag queen and trans shit down your throats all day.
00:11:28.000 They're going to blur out A little donation thing on Trump's podium.
00:11:35.000 You can't make it up, folks.
00:11:37.000 And just when you think there has to be an end in sight, look at what happened in Chicago.
00:11:45.000 This week, defund the police advocate was elected Chicago mayor, right?
00:11:51.000 They lost Lori Lightfoot.
00:11:53.000 They got rid of her because crime was through the roof.
00:11:56.000 The city's falling apart.
00:11:57.000 She was incompetent.
00:11:59.000 And yet they fill the void with someone who's probably going to be worse.
00:12:04.000 Crime, as we all know, is out of control in Chicago.
00:12:08.000 Thousands and thousands of people are carjacked every year, murdered, shot drive-bys.
00:12:15.000 Businesses are fleeing the city.
00:12:17.000 People are afraid to go to work.
00:12:18.000 They have to travel in droves because you can't get there, can't get anywhere without getting mugged.
00:12:23.000 So how do Chicago voters respond?
00:12:27.000 They respond by elected someone who supported the defund the police movement and defended looters.
00:12:35.000 Seriously, someone who defended the looters.
00:12:39.000 This is Brandon Johnston, the next mayor of Chicago.
00:12:44.000 Watch for yourselves. We don't want a society that is acting out of desperation, but you have to pay attention to the cries that people have.
00:12:56.000 So you're not condoning looting?
00:12:58.000 There's no way to embrace that.
00:13:02.000 What I'm saying is you can't condone the looting that corporations continue to do every single day when they take
00:13:10.000 tax dollars from black brown white folks all over the city of Chicago so that they can try.
00:13:14.000 We know the mayor of Chicago here like we're rebuked this call to redirect money to defund this failed, you know,
00:13:24.000 system of incarceration and policing.
00:13:28.000 you You know, so whether it's the president of the United States, you know, calling it a catchy hashtag or phrase, Lori Lightfoot, Which I think is actually quite dismissive of the young people who are literally putting their lives on the line for a cause that I think,
00:13:47.000 quite frankly, is not just admirable, but is necessary.
00:13:52.000 You know who else is putting their lives on the line for a cause that's actually admirable, not some sort of social justice and loot a Gucci store for kicks because it's okay if it's for social justice, but police.
00:14:06.000 The men and women in blue who risk their lives daily protecting our freedoms, our liberties, everything that we hold near and dear in America.
00:14:16.000 This guy wants to defund the police in a city that is literally known for being ravaged by crime.
00:14:25.000 There's nothing admiral about that, okay?
00:14:29.000 It's necessary to have police.
00:14:32.000 He wants to say it's necessary to defund them.
00:14:36.000 Think of how insane that is.
00:14:37.000 Over 280,000 people voted for that guy.
00:14:40.000 Brandon Johnson's.
00:14:41.000 The Teachers Union, of course, which jammed all that stuff down their throats so they can work less and make sure that our kids continue to fail while spending more per child than any country in the world.
00:14:52.000 But again, hey, they'll get guys like this elected who will make sure they take care of them and...
00:14:56.000 You know, force toddlers to wear masks and be big donors to them.
00:15:00.000 They're evil. They don't want to work.
00:15:02.000 They've failed miserably at everything that they do.
00:15:04.000 But hey, they're big supporters of these guys, and so they'll keep getting what they want while your children and ours continue to get a shitty education in America.
00:15:17.000 You go to places like Chicago or San Francisco or certainly New York these days and you feel sad about cities going downhill.
00:15:26.000 I grew up in New York.
00:15:28.000 I've seen it with my own eyes.
00:15:30.000 Kimberly, my fiance, she grew up in San Francisco and she was very involved there.
00:15:36.000 I built Trump Chicago in Chicago.
00:15:37.000 I spent three, four days a week there for three or four years as that building was being built when I was in my 20s and early 30s.
00:15:47.000 So I know about these things.
00:15:48.000 And you can't help but feel sad for cities going to crap.
00:15:52.000 But you have to remind yourself that the leftists want this.
00:15:56.000 They keep getting choices.
00:15:59.000 To reorient the path that they're on.
00:16:01.000 And nope, they just keep putting anti-police radicals in office.
00:16:06.000 So if they're willing to destroy the cities that they live in, what makes you think they care about the fate of the rest of the country?
00:16:13.000 That should be pretty obvious at this point.
00:16:15.000 The left is attacking everybody.
00:16:18.000 Every corner.
00:16:19.000 Every institution of America.
00:16:22.000 From election integrity to law and order to even, honestly, the differences between men and women.
00:16:28.000 Because yet again, yet another major company is caving to the woke trans mafia.
00:16:37.000 Nike is now using trans influencer Dylan Mulvaney as the new face of women's workout gear.
00:16:47.000 Like, you can't make it up!
00:16:49.000 It's ridiculous!
00:16:51.000 Look at the clip and see for yourself.
00:17:16.000 Why are these major companies so eager to rebrand and actually remove women
00:17:21.000 from the face of women's brands or from women's sports?
00:17:25.000 It's like the Trans Mafia has kidnapped the marketing director of these major companies, like their children is holding them hostage.
00:17:35.000 I can think of no other explanation.
00:17:39.000 What could possibly be the explanation for how this tiny group of people...
00:17:45.000 The CDC says 0.6% of the adult population, so if you add in kids, significantly less.
00:17:52.000 How does that group have more power than any other social group in this country, it seems?
00:17:59.000 Let's be clear...
00:18:01.000 At this point, I don't think that if you're trans, you're at any sort of social disadvantage.
00:18:06.000 You're actually way ahead of the system in anything.
00:18:10.000 They'll play victim, but give me a break.
00:18:12.000 It also seems like Nike is 100% fine pushing anything Every ridiculous stereotype of women that should have been disbanded over the last few decades because a trans person thinks that's how a woman acts these days, I guess. This is a biological male dancing around and prancing
00:18:31.000 around like a lunatic, and that's supposed to be the face of women's sports,
00:18:37.000 apparently. I don't know how to think of it any other way. Literally, stereotypes, many of which
00:18:42.000 died probably before I was even born, are being pushed because a dude is pretending to be a
00:18:48.000 woman, and I guess that makes it okay.
00:18:52.000 This is an insult to actual women. This is especially an insult to women athletes and
00:18:59.000 female athletes all over the world who have worked their asses off to be at the top of
00:19:05.000 their games.
00:19:07.000 And yet, Dylan Mulvaney, just like other trans athletes will swoop in and steal women's scholarships to game that system.
00:19:15.000 It's happening. Notice it only goes one way.
00:19:18.000 So the men that become women, never the women that become men that are stealing these scholarships and winning national championships or fracturing their skull in the ring or whatever it may be.
00:19:28.000 Are these companies just obsessed with trying to boost their ESG scores like that actually matters, like anyone actually cares?
00:19:34.000 Because they keep doubling down and literally alienating their entire customer base.
00:19:40.000 Jack Daniels, another one this week.
00:19:45.000 Did the same thing.
00:19:47.000 Having a drag queen thing ad as though they think that that's somehow their base.
00:19:56.000 So hopefully these companies will learn, but I don't know.
00:19:59.000 They keep doing it, and I don't think, I haven't heard any stories about marketing directors' children being held hostage, but again, how has one lunatic fringe group that was by our own medical institutions up until a couple short years ago Dubbed mentally ill, how have they taken control of every aspect of American culture?
00:20:23.000 I have five kids.
00:20:25.000 I heard of story hours every once in a while.
00:20:28.000 Maybe a school did it.
00:20:29.000 How did drag queen story hour become a thing that it's everywhere?
00:20:34.000 Regular story hour isn't everywhere.
00:20:37.000 These things don't just happen everywhere.
00:20:39.000 And I've got five kids. I would have heard about them.
00:20:42.000 And yet, magically, Drag Queen Story Hour starts popping up everywhere.
00:20:45.000 It's almost as though it's a setup.
00:20:47.000 It's almost as though there is a plan to indoctrinate our children, to jam this stuff down their throats, to make sure that anyone who speaks out against it faces a social consequence.
00:21:03.000 Because they've done a good job of that.
00:21:04.000 God knows I know the hate I get, but I don't care.
00:21:07.000 Because we can't allow this insanity to continue.
00:21:11.000 And it gets worse.
00:21:12.000 Because up in Canada, a politician named Kristen Wong Tam proposed legislation to criminalize offensive remarks within 100 meters of a drag queen story hour.
00:21:30.000 Think about that. To criminalize.
00:21:32.000 Like, you go to jail for saying something offensive within 100 meters or about 109 yards of a drag queen story hour.
00:21:40.000 Watch for yourself. Enables the Attorney General to create a 2SLGBTQI plus community safety zone to prohibit within 100 meters of the property any homophobic, transphobic act of intimidation, threat, offensive threats, offensive remarks, protest disturbance and distribution of hate propaganda within the meaning of the criminal code.
00:22:06.000 It also comes with it a penalty of $25,000 if prosecuted successfully.
00:22:14.000 $25,000. Remember, Canada's one of those places where, like, I thought we had, you know, maybe a little bit of free speech, and maybe that's what COVID taught us, right?
00:22:21.000 The places that you thought were like us, you know, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, you know, the UK. You're like, oh, yeah, they're kind of like us.
00:22:30.000 They believe in freedom, and they have these things.
00:22:32.000 No, no, no. If you say something that could be deemed offensive, you're intimidating.
00:22:37.000 I don't know, man. Did you see the back row of those?
00:22:40.000 Okay. Two of those people I wouldn't want to mess with.
00:22:43.000 They may be a drag queen, but they'd probably kick most men's ass.
00:22:47.000 But yeah, they're going to be victimized by someone saying something.
00:22:52.000 You can't make it up.
00:22:53.000 It's woke beyond belief.
00:22:56.000 And that's just the latest example of the very small minority seemingly being in total charge, in total control of everything.
00:23:08.000 Of everything. They're going to start putting people in jail for not accepting every aspect of their ever-changing, constantly evolving and getting further deranged nonsense.
00:23:21.000 Day in and day out.
00:23:22.000 And if you don't go along with it, you're canceled.
00:23:25.000 You're out. You're going to be fined $25,000 or put in jail.
00:23:31.000 Guys, And it's not just corporate America that's fully embracing this insanity with no regard for their consumers or governments like Canada.
00:23:40.000 But the White House here in the United States won't even dare call terrorism by a trans person terrorism, right?
00:23:49.000 Here's White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dodging the question when asked if the Nashville shooter who murdered six Christians, three young children, In a shooting last weekend if it was a hate crime.
00:24:06.000 It's not up to us to decide, oh really?
00:24:09.000 Oh really? Do you think that if it was, say, a white guy in a MAGA hat that it would be for them to decide?
00:24:15.000 Do you think that maybe, I don't know, just maybe, they'd have an opinion on it if that was the case?
00:24:22.000 We all know. Check it out and see for yourself.
00:24:26.000 Former Vice President Pence said that if the shooter who killed six people in that Christian school in Tennessee was motivated by a hatred towards Christians that the crime should be categorized as a hate crime.
00:24:40.000 I'm wondering what the president thinks of that kind of designation.
00:24:43.000 It's not for us to decide.
00:24:48.000 Oh! It's not for them to say.
00:24:51.000 Interesting. They have an opinion on everything, just not when it affects their narrative, right?
00:24:58.000 The FBI and the DOJ, of which they control, had no problem classifying concerned parents, mothers who showed up to PTA meetings, just so we understand what we're talking about.
00:25:11.000 Just so we are clear, if you're a concerned parent showing up to a PTA meeting and asking questions about the indoctrination of our children in their schools, you were labeled a domestic terrorist by the highest forms of American law enforcement.
00:25:30.000 If a trans sociopath from that very protected group of incredibly powerful but immune to criticism group of people, the new trans mafia, if they kill and murder in cold blood Christian children, It's not for them to decide.
00:25:54.000 I mean, why would they possibly look at that?
00:25:57.000 Like when the black supremacist drove a car through a Christmas parade last year in Wisconsin.
00:26:05.000 A car drove through a Christmas parade killing people.
00:26:09.000 Magically, just by itself, right?
00:26:11.000 I mean, they couldn't do that.
00:26:12.000 They wanted it to be a white guy in a MAGA hat with an AR-15.
00:26:15.000 The second it wasn't, all of a sudden, it's out of the news, folks.
00:26:20.000 So just imagine, if you would, if the roles were reversed.
00:26:23.000 Do you think the White House would have the same response?
00:26:27.000 Of course not. And it's all just another example how there's one rule for the left and their allies and another entirely different set of rules for the rest of us.
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00:29:24.000 And now... After a rather lengthy one.
00:29:27.000 I apologize for that, Darren.
00:29:28.000 We have Darren Beattie in studio to talk about everything.
00:29:33.000 So, Darren, you've got an interesting background.
00:29:35.000 I think our audience should know. You're a speech writer for Trump.
00:29:38.000 Yes. Full-on, like, academic, mathematician, and other things, and one of the few, maybe the only, academic that actually endorsed and supported Donald Trump in 2016.
00:29:51.000 What was that like? No, that's absolutely right.
00:29:53.000 I was the only non-tenured full-time academic in the country to publicly support your father in 2016, and I was the only...
00:30:00.000 I was teaching at Duke at the time, and I was the only member of Duke's faculty to actually correctly predict the election.
00:30:08.000 Which is something interesting because they have a bunch of political science people there who pride themselves on their predictive models and accuracy, and I was the only one who got it right.
00:30:18.000 And so, as I mentioned to you earlier, it constituted kind of a performative resignation letter from the academy.
00:30:25.000 And I was...
00:30:26.000 You didn't have...
00:30:28.000 Let me guess. You didn't get tenure.
00:30:30.000 No. They weren't going to give you tenure after that one.
00:30:33.000 Even if you were right, even if perhaps you should have been the only academic to actually...
00:30:39.000 Merit tenure.
00:30:41.000 They didn't get it.
00:30:43.000 Well, I was in such a state of arrogant euphoria, I guess, in the aftermath of your father's victory that I actually did send an email both to the dean and the entire political science department demanding I get tenure.
00:31:01.000 I mean, as a joke, but...
00:31:03.000 You know, they should have done it, frankly, if it's about getting things right.
00:31:06.000 But no, it was an interesting stage, but I was happy to move on, and I had the honor of working under your father in the White House, and gone on to do a lot of interesting things, including starting Revolver News, which I think has been at the forefront of investigative reporting and analysis, and I think has really...
00:31:26.000 I'm most proud of its work thematically through all of our reporting on Big Tech censorship on January 6th and all these things we can get into.
00:31:36.000 The underlying theme running throughout all of it is the weaponization of the national security state against conservatives and particularly Trump supporters.
00:31:47.000 And your excellent monologue, I think, really drew attention to the fact that we're at The second stage of this effort, the first stage was just shutting people up.
00:31:56.000 Shutting you up, taking you off, you know, social media, shutting you down in many cases by, you know, turning off the spigot on your bank account.
00:32:04.000 But now we're at the stage of deplatforming that comes with throwing people in prison, of criminally indicting people.
00:32:13.000 Yeah, like, so, I mean, how did that happen so quickly?
00:32:17.000 Meaning, again, and I, it's crazy, like, I've been in the room.
00:32:21.000 I've been a target.
00:32:22.000 You know, I was probably, let's call, I don't want to say number one, because clearly number one was my father.
00:32:26.000 But like, I'd say it's safe to say I was the number two target of Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:32:30.000 They were hoping for that. And again, I've made very clear to my audience, I understand that I am not the upstanding citizen that Hunter Biden is.
00:32:38.000 But if there was actual Russian collusion, I have a feeling you'd know about it and I'd be in jail.
00:32:42.000 Right. And yet it didn't stop them.
00:32:45.000 But each time something like that happens, they go, wow, you know, maybe it's me, it's against Trump.
00:32:50.000 But There's so much further along than I ever would have thought, right?
00:32:55.000 And I do this. I'm watching.
00:32:56.000 And I was in the room. And yet, then you see January 6th, and they're jailed.
00:33:00.000 And it takes two years to release the exculpatory videos.
00:33:02.000 And, you know, as long as they control that and as long as they have that, it was never going to come out because the narrative was this.
00:33:07.000 And they'll put hundreds of people, nonviolent offenders, in jail.
00:33:11.000 Now, the people from the Summer of Love in 2020 that, you know, burned down buildings and murdered dozens and, you know, created damage.
00:33:20.000 I mean, I can't even tell you how many times worse than anything that January 6th ever happened.
00:33:25.000 You know, they were in jail for two years.
00:33:27.000 Right. They withheld the evidence to get those people out because the narrative was more important.
00:33:32.000 How did we get there?
00:33:34.000 I mean, because it accelerated so quickly, right?
00:33:36.000 I look at that slippery slope. It's like, okay, it's probably a little worse, a little bad, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:33:40.000 And it's like... Just right through the roof.
00:33:43.000 Absolutely. No, it's a great question.
00:33:45.000 And my view on it is that even though certain developments are arresting, we've reached critical inflection points like the unprecedented indictment of, you know, former president and a current frontrunner to be.
00:33:58.000 um president all of this was kind of baked into the cake from the beginning at least once your father won your father ran against the coordinated opposition of every single powerful institution in the country he won and he humiliated them In doing so, and this unleashed a profound oppositional force from the regime that I think had to culminate in this stage of not only weaponizing the national security, all the institutions like the Department of Homeland Security originally Erected to prosecute the war on terror,
00:34:33.000 you know, with mixed results, to be sure, have now been repurposed to go after the domestic war on terror, which is people who object to, for instance, The Drag Queen Story Hour, and I think we've really seen an acceleration within the acceleration recently, and I think a crystallization of this form of government that's been described as anarcho-tyranny, which is basically...
00:35:01.000 Talk about that a little bit, because I've heard you say it, and for the average person to understand exactly what that means.
00:35:05.000 Right. It's not coined by me.
00:35:08.000 It has... The person who coined it was kind of a controversial guy called Sam Francis, but it's a very powerful insight, and it describes really the reality that we have anarchy and lawlessness with respect to the sort of clients of the regime, the political allies of the regime, and you have really tyranny with respect to ordinary middle-class conservative citizens.
00:35:37.000 The best example of it comes from your monologue.
00:35:40.000 Anarcho-tyranny is we don't prosecute looters, but we prosecute anyone who says anything offensive within a hundred miles of a drag queen story hour.
00:35:51.000 Alvin Bragg!
00:35:53.000 Talk about a subliterate.
00:35:56.000 You know, they talk about him as, you know, he created a novel prosecution.
00:36:00.000 I know we're mixing terms here, but he's not involved with anything like a novel.
00:36:05.000 This guy is involved with picture books.
00:36:08.000 This is subliterate. Yeah, there's nothing novel about it.
00:36:11.000 I mean, the only novel aspect of it is that it's a first...
00:36:15.000 In terms of, like, the devolution of, like, just polite society in America and everything we believe.
00:36:20.000 You know, I will say, like, it's shocking to me.
00:36:23.000 Like, everything I believed America to be, so much of that is an illusion.
00:36:28.000 And I would have never known that from the outside.
00:36:32.000 That's why, you know, any insight I can give to be like, hey, man, I've been a fly on the wall.
00:36:36.000 I've been in those rooms.
00:36:37.000 I've then seen the reporting about what was supposedly done in those rooms.
00:36:41.000 And there's not even a pretense...
00:36:44.000 Of like truth anymore, right?
00:36:46.000 You think like, hey, well, maybe this guy interpreted a little bit differently.
00:36:49.000 It's like, no, no, no. Here's the narrative.
00:36:50.000 This is what we want. Here's our end objective.
00:36:52.000 It's no different than communist China, right?
00:36:53.000 Right. Here's where we want to be.
00:36:56.000 So everything is open season between, you know, now and then to get to where we want to be.
00:37:02.000 It's like China, right? Like they'll steamroll their entire population because they want to be here in 50 years.
00:37:07.000 Right. Peasants be damned.
00:37:09.000 Right. Arguably subliterate.
00:37:27.000 I don't know if he can read.
00:37:29.000 That's an open question. But the thing about him is he was one of these guys just like the mayor of Chicago you're talking about.
00:37:35.000 His whole thing from the very beginning was, I'm not going to prosecute basically any offenses that are relevant to basic quality of life in the...
00:37:45.000 You know, for the people that I'm supposed to represent.
00:37:48.000 Murder and rape, I mean, like, it's fine.
00:37:50.000 But when it comes to a trivial document filing claim against, which he couldn't even do because the statute of limitations ran out, so that's where the novelty comes in.
00:38:00.000 But, you know, when dumb people try to do creative things, the end result is even more ridiculous than you can imagine.
00:38:07.000 And that's why you had these people like John Bolton and others come out and say, My God, maybe we shouldn't outsource our domestic war on terror to this low, kind of low IQ operatives.
00:38:20.000 But you see it in Alvin Bragg.
00:38:22.000 You see it, and it's not just with your father.
00:38:24.000 It goes down the line.
00:38:26.000 Recently, I think you've talked about this, there's a case of This young guy called Doug Mackey, who was a great supporter of your father's, had a great Twitter account, extremely influential, just an ordinary guy.
00:38:37.000 He really irritated Hillary Clinton because he dared to mock her.
00:38:41.000 And the Biden Department of Justice just convicted this guy of a felony for memes.
00:38:48.000 By the way, up to 10 years in prison for memes in America.
00:38:53.000 First Amendment doesn't matter again.
00:38:54.000 He's going against the norm.
00:38:56.000 Now, there's plenty of people...
00:38:58.000 Literally exact same crime on the other way against Donald Trump.
00:39:02.000 Same thing. And it's like they don't even get prosecuted, let alone face 10 years in prison.
00:39:07.000 Right. I mean, Joe Biden's perhaps an example of what you're talking about in the sense that Joe Biden's so stupid...
00:39:14.000 He'll actually sign anything that the powers that be put in front of him.
00:39:18.000 So I actually think, like Alvin Bragg, I think is being a useful idiot to George Soros, and those likes, I think Joe Biden is actually that to Obama, Susan Rice, whoever's still in charge, because they were smart enough to preserve their legacies.
00:39:34.000 They may not agree with everything in America, but they weren't going to go against the American public and hurt their legacies and their abilities to buy...
00:39:42.000 You know, $15 million homes and Martha's Vineyard and all of this stuff.
00:39:46.000 They weren't going to quite do that, but they're more than happy to destroy Joe Biden's legacy by having him sign whatever it is that they want.
00:39:52.000 And, you know, they get where we want.
00:39:54.000 So he's like the useful idiot, but frankly, he was much more effective than the Obamas of the world because they don't care about protecting his name, image, and likeness for the future.
00:40:05.000 Right. Well, he's clearly an instrument, and there are underlying forces that are much more powerful than him.
00:40:12.000 I mean, the regime is really exhibiting itself in unprecedented ways, and this has a lot of downstream effects.
00:40:21.000 For instance, you mentioned China.
00:40:24.000 It's always been kind of unique to America's self-understanding that we are kind of a moral nation, a moral exemplar to other countries.
00:40:33.000 We're a bastion of freedom.
00:40:34.000 And whether or not that's true in the past, it's always been an integral part of the way
00:40:42.000 we've sold ourselves and marketed ourselves and affected foreign policy and diplomacy overseas.
00:40:48.000 Recently, an interesting tweet from this guy who's doing a lot of interesting work in El Salvador,
00:40:54.000 Bukele, who's basically brought MS-13 to heel.
00:40:59.000 He correctly, and I think very insightfully, pointed out, look, how can America continue to say,
00:41:05.000 just recently, one of Biden's lackeys castigated Tunisia for daring to jail political opposition.
00:41:14.000 The same thing in Cambodia.
00:41:16.000 Wait a minute, guys! Well, we're seeding the high ground, right?
00:41:22.000 There was a time where America had the moral high ground, and you could say that would never happen to America.
00:41:26.000 And yet, the Banana Republic shit...
00:41:29.000 That we call out and have been able to call out.
00:41:32.000 Like, you know, if I'm Putin, you sit there and be like, I don't know, guys.
00:41:35.000 Like, you know, I'm watching all the people who really hate Putin and really hate, you know, they're calling for a regime.
00:41:41.000 I mean, wait a minute, but you're okay with them jailing Trump, though.
00:41:44.000 That's different. Trump's the exception that proves the Putin rule, right?
00:41:47.000 He's the political opposition, but it's okay because it's Trump.
00:41:50.000 Exactly. It's a very dangerous and bizarre trend, and especially as conflict is gearing up with China, we don't really have that moral high ground that was available to us, say, in the Cold War with the Soviet Union, where Reagan could say, we're the free society, Soviet Union is basically the gulag.
00:42:13.000 In this case, It seems like there are two different authoritarian systems emerging.
00:42:19.000 There's the Chinese authoritarian system, and there's the system associated with what I call, not America, but the globalist American empire, which is just as authoritarian, is becoming so.
00:42:32.000 Plus drag queens.
00:42:33.000 It's just as authoritarian, plus all of these ridiculous things as we have the same basic underlying injury, but at least in China there's no insult.
00:42:45.000 And the insult added to the injury is the thing that makes our country ridiculous and I think is increasingly a laughing stock on the world stage.
00:42:53.000 And the other kind of serious point on this There's a real interesting tension emerging because it just is the same time as the national security state has basically declared war on conservative Americans.
00:43:06.000 It's conservatives that they'll rely upon to have this kind of battered wife syndrome To say, well, we're going to beat you down domestically, but the second we need you for another war, you're going to be the first to sign up.
00:43:21.000 Exactly. Well, but you see that.
00:43:23.000 And I've had, you know, all my friends, like, real operators and, you know, SEAL team guys, and they're saying, like, they're out there having these conversations, and they're telling me, like, I would never let my kids do this.
00:43:34.000 Like, these are guys that... You know, they literally bled for our country, but they would want their children to do the same, and, like, there's tradition of, you know, generations of people who fought wars for this country, and they're like, I wouldn't even think about it, because, you know, if you're trans, you'll become an admiral in about three seconds, and you can do that, and while you're going...
00:43:51.000 I had Ronnie Jackson on here talking about that as someone who was an admiral and, you know, in a medical profession.
00:43:56.000 He was like, oh, yeah, by the way, like, if you're going through the paid-for-by-the-U.S. government gender-affirming surgery, like...
00:44:03.000 Because of all the medications, you're not actually even allowed to be on active duty abroad, so they give you a cushy office.
00:44:08.000 It's like, it's a huge scam.
00:44:11.000 You don't need to check them.
00:44:12.000 I served our country while sitting in a nice air-conditioned office with no intention to do that while the American taxpayer gets to pay for my gender reassignment surgery.
00:44:22.000 Who's going to go sign up for these things anymore?
00:44:24.000 It's amazing. It's like we were saying, becoming transgender is the ultimate life hack in America, and it's literally a hack, no pun intended.
00:44:34.000 As far as I'm concerned, and I say this being the son of a billionaire, I think it's the highest level of privilege if utilized properly in America Day.
00:44:49.000 There's no school you can't get into.
00:44:52.000 There's no position that you're not checking off a box that they would love to fill.
00:44:57.000 And by the way, the more you're pretending it, Probably the better it is because you don't have the lunacy that goes along with so much of it, right?
00:45:03.000 So, like, I feel it's the highest form of privilege in society today.
00:45:08.000 You can get into Harvard, then just for kicks, you can join women's MMA, just beat up a woman, get into Harvard, do whatever you want.
00:45:18.000 And they'll never throw you out. Yeah, they'll celebrate you.
00:45:20.000 You're beyond question.
00:45:21.000 You're beyond reproach.
00:45:22.000 Right. And, you know, you can always fall back, oh, you're being a racist, like everything else these days.
00:45:26.000 But where does it end?
00:45:30.000 Well, that's an interesting question.
00:45:31.000 I think these tensions are yet to be resolved.
00:45:34.000 I think, you know, your father stands as the most compelling symbolic representation of opposition to all these forces.
00:45:43.000 And it really is about your father.
00:45:45.000 You know, people talk about Trumpism after Trump.
00:45:48.000 I think that's a total scam.
00:45:50.000 The idea of Trumpism after...
00:45:51.000 It's a total scam because it's really the ploy to eliminate both Trumpism and Trump.
00:45:59.000 There are a lot of pseudo-sophisticates out there who think you can just...
00:46:04.000 Get the policy script and give it to anyone, that it's interchangeable.
00:46:09.000 That's not how political movements work.
00:46:12.000 There's a reason that the system is targeted against specific individual.
00:46:17.000 That individual happens to be the person who created and continues to lead one of the most powerful political movements in the nation's history.
00:46:26.000 So if we can, you know, get your father into the White House again, then maybe that can change the game.
00:46:32.000 The direction of things, I think, is very bleak, and I think the open question of these tensions is how long can conservatives be counted on to be these patriotic people who are joining the military who support these institutions Who will fight for the kind of country that will throw them in jail for, you know, standing around on January 6th.
00:46:57.000 Who will fight for the kind of country who will throw you in jail for criticizing transsexuals.
00:47:02.000 Well, yeah, and that's part, I mean, part of patriotism is, you know, believing in the things that come from that system, right?
00:47:08.000 Right. And if government's number one priority is, you know, transgenderism is the social justice issue of our time, I'm like, I don't know.
00:47:15.000 You know, I feel like there's a lot more out there.
00:47:19.000 It's so important.
00:47:20.000 To your point about sort of Trump as the leader of the movement, a big part of Trumpism is actually having the balls To follow through.
00:47:28.000 Right. And we've seen that.
00:47:29.000 You know, there's a lot of guys that try to do Trump or Trump-lite, and then you see them flip-flop on Ukraine, and, you know, they say something that was kind of like Trump, maybe the weak version of what Trump was saying about Ukraine and ending the never-ending wars.
00:47:41.000 And then the donor class, you know, as sponsored by the military-industrial, you can't say that.
00:47:46.000 Well, so I'll change it tomorrow.
00:47:48.000 Right. Well, the weaponization of government, as long as it's against Donald Trump, who's a political opponent right now, it's not really that big a deal.
00:47:56.000 I'm like, really?
00:47:57.000 I kind of feel like that actually may be that fulcrum point.
00:48:02.000 That's the thing we're talking about.
00:48:04.000 If our government, if this becomes okay, Not only have we ceded the moral high ground, but we've ceded everything we thought we stood for.
00:48:13.000 And who's going to go sign up and be patriotic or sign up to fight for that?
00:48:18.000 Right, right. And so again, it's a real crisis point.
00:48:21.000 It's a crisis of legitimacy for the country.
00:48:25.000 And, you know, it really, all of this stuff that we're talking about, not just this trans stuff, and for lack of a better term, the wokeness, it has emerged as The de facto state ideology of the country and it's almost, you know, we can look at these things like what Nike is doing and what these major corporations, all major corporations in the United States pay lip service at the very least to this and on one hand we can say this is detrimental to business but in the bigger picture It's actually a necessary display of fealty.
00:49:00.000 The same way in China is you can't operate on a certain level in business unless you're friendly to the Chinese Communist Party.
00:49:07.000 You can't operate at a certain level in the United States of America unless you've kissed the ring of the regime and the ideology of wokeness.
00:49:18.000 And that's just kind of how it is.
00:49:20.000 Every single institution is infected by it.
00:49:23.000 And we need a total upheaval for that reason.
00:49:27.000 I see. You talked about China.
00:49:28.000 You had a great tweet. I don't want to read this so I get it right.
00:49:30.000 But, you know, we played the video earlier about the Canada and the drag queen story hour.
00:49:36.000 And you said, and I quote, you watch this and you wonder if it would really be all that bad for China to overtake the West.
00:49:47.000 I think I retweeted it or liked it because you're looking at it and be like, you're right.
00:49:51.000 What does this society have to offer anyone?
00:49:57.000 Flesh that out a little bit. Because you do see that cultural decay on the West.
00:50:03.000 When I see this is the issue of our time, I'm like, well, if that's the issue of our time, then it's over.
00:50:08.000 Because we're not serious people anymore.
00:50:10.000 Right. Or it's become so opulent that if this becomes the serious issue of our time, you know, we have kids that can't learn or can't read and they're graduating high schools without basic math or literally illiterate, and yet we're spending more per capita than any nation in the world.
00:50:26.000 But this is what they're concerned about.
00:50:30.000 What happens? That's a great question.
00:50:33.000 And, you know, the tweet was, you know, obviously not...
00:50:36.000 Serious, it's deliberately provocative, but...
00:50:40.000 But it's not, like, it's a totally rational question when you look at the situation.
00:50:44.000 Exactly. It raises an important question because it's a question of what kind of nation are we defending?
00:50:51.000 When we say America first, what is the version of America that we're putting first?
00:50:57.000 When we say... Buy American and we want to privilege American corporations over foreign ones.
00:51:03.000 We want to make sure that those corporations aren't embracing the very ideology that's poisoning our country.
00:51:09.000 And so it really gets to the core of a lot of inherent tensions Now, for people who want to be patriotic, but who confront the reality that everything representing America, including overseas, what's a better representation of American power and influence than the rainbow flag?
00:51:28.000 Now it's a better indication that American influence exists in a region than the American flag itself.
00:51:38.000 It really underscores all of these, I think, very uncomfortable thought exercises.
00:51:44.000 And I think there's this natural tendency to want to avoid these questions.
00:51:49.000 And part of the way you do it is by pointing fingers at foreign adversaries.
00:51:52.000 Say, well, yeah, we have some problems, but look at all this stuff China's doing.
00:51:56.000 Look at all this stuff Russia's doing.
00:51:58.000 Look at what Iran is doing.
00:51:59.000 Look at what these countries are doing.
00:52:00.000 But I think one of the most...
00:52:03.000 Powerful and important and brave and subversive things your father has said, and he said a lot of interesting things.
00:52:11.000 He said, the real challenge to the American people is not any foreign adversary.
00:52:19.000 The real problem facing the American people is not any foreign adversary.
00:52:23.000 It's the corrupt and illegitimate people who control America.
00:52:27.000 And there's so much desire to deflect, because that's a very uncomfortable pill to swallow.
00:52:34.000 We'd much rather say, China is responsible for our ills.
00:52:39.000 Well, the funny thing is, we've written about this recently on Revolver.
00:52:43.000 One funny thing is, the Chinese are excellent in a lot of domains, and frankly, they copy a lot, but they are excellent in a lot of domains.
00:52:50.000 One thing that they're simply miserable at Is foreign propaganda directed to the United States and part of the reason for that is I think The poisonous ideology that comes from the United States is so foreign to them that they don't even Understand it enough to exploit it.
00:53:08.000 But the funny thing is but they always do these sort of weaker We're good to go.
00:53:33.000 China thinks it's undermining American power by reinforcing narratives that are engendered by dominant American institutions.
00:53:42.000 And the other hand, they don't even do it as well as it's done in America.
00:53:48.000 If I'm China, I'm like, hey, Dylan Mulvaney is the, like, number one spokesperson for every major brand in America, it seems.
00:53:56.000 Like... If that's the case, like, I don't know, maybe China's not so bad.
00:53:59.000 Right. You know, if that guy, especially covering all the women's stuff and then Women's History Month or, you know, whatever Women's Month, you know, because every month there's something that has to be celebrated and every day has a special, you know, today's Cheesecake Day, whatever the hell it is.
00:54:14.000 You know, you think they could actually do quite a bit better given what We give them.
00:54:19.000 And yet, they still do a lot, right?
00:54:21.000 I always talk about the TikTok algorithm.
00:54:26.000 In China, if you're a nerd and you're doing a physics project and you're videoing it and putting it on TikTok, you're rewarded.
00:54:35.000 For using your brain and for being intelligent.
00:54:38.000 In America, the bigger of an imbecile you are, the bigger an audience you get.
00:54:45.000 They're teaching our kids subversively.
00:54:47.000 I mean, it's all a PSYOP, right?
00:54:49.000 But they're teaching our kids, hey, if you act like an imbecile, Right.
00:54:53.000 You get rewarded. And, man, it feels like it's, you know, I know TikTok's relatively new, but it feels like that mentality is certainly prevailing in America right now.
00:55:04.000 Absolutely. It's a great point.
00:55:05.000 And TikTok is an excellent illustration of what we're talking about, because on one hand, TikTok, you know, wields, I think, a pretty unambiguously negative influence on the nation's youth.
00:55:17.000 There are all sorts of things that we can object to it.
00:55:19.000 On the other hand, there are In some ways, the least censorious of the big tech companies.
00:55:26.000 And the other hand... They're letting us fail on our own.
00:55:29.000 And on the other hand, a lot of the bad things you can attribute to them come from basically the American version that isn't even the Chinese version.
00:55:41.000 And so again, it's like TikTok is a nefarious influence, but it's hard not to think of this sort of Chorus of condemnation against TikTok as a consolation prize for the fact that few if any of these politicians and people are up to the task of fighting Google.
00:56:02.000 I want to get into Google because like...
00:56:05.000 I think Google's actually the worst actor in all of big tech.
00:56:09.000 Absolutely. Whether it's the influence in search and so much more, right?
00:56:13.000 Absolutely. Same thing the way that YouTube, owned by Google, deplatforms anyone that goes against that party.
00:56:20.000 I mean, I think I'm not for TikTok saving every screenshot your kid's ever taken and using it against them 20 years later when they're going to be a politician or running a company to the advantage of China, which I'm sure is happening.
00:56:33.000 Right. I don't think Google's any better.
00:56:36.000 No, they're doing the same thing.
00:56:37.000 I mean, their slogans do know evil, but they're by far more powerful.
00:56:43.000 Yes. By far more manipulative.
00:56:46.000 So, you know, you guys have a Revolver News article right now up about that.
00:56:50.000 So talk about the details of that.
00:56:52.000 It's easy to shit on TikTok because it's CCP funded, but it's like, fine, take the servers of the American stuff out there so they're not collecting the information.
00:56:59.000 I'm not into censoring anything.
00:57:01.000 I understand the algorithms designed to make us be dumber.
00:57:04.000 Fine. I still don't want to censor people, but...
00:57:10.000 What's the difference? I mean, Google's doing the same thing with your information, I'm sure.
00:57:13.000 And I don't think they're above weaponizing that against their political enemies because I've seen the way they've acted over the last few years.
00:57:20.000 Not at all. And that's the thing.
00:57:22.000 It's like one of the chief accusations against TikTok is that it's some kind of subsidiary or somehow beholden to the Chinese government.
00:57:32.000 And, you know, that's probably true to some extent, but it's really no more true than the relationship between Fang, you know, including Google, and the U.S. government.
00:57:43.000 And, you know, the whole display about TikTok happened concurrently with these revelations
00:57:48.000 coming out in the Twitter files that basically show that the...
00:57:52.000 Shiny object, go distract yourselves.
00:57:54.000 I'm saying that was bad, obviously.
00:57:56.000 I was someone who suffered from that.
00:57:57.000 And I was the guy that one of the first be like, I think there's censorship here.
00:58:01.000 How do you know that you're conspiracy theory?
00:58:04.000 I was getting like 10,000 retweets yesterday.
00:58:06.000 Today I'm getting four. Not 4,000, just four.
00:58:10.000 Something changed and it was probably my attitude towards these things.
00:58:14.000 Right, and the thing that we learned from that is we all knew for a long time that big tech was censoring us.
00:58:20.000 To some extent, one could be forgiven before for thinking, okay, these are private companies.
00:58:26.000 They're making their own decisions.
00:58:28.000 It's woke people within the companies and sort of that's the level on which the censorship problem has to be understood and addressed.
00:58:34.000 But what we learn is censorship is an industry that really relies on the active collusion between the government and big tech To sustain this censorship, and in many cases, it was government agencies leaning on big tech to censor.
00:58:53.000 And this really reveals something important about the structure of our particular authoritarianism, is that in China, The censorship, it can all be done directly.
00:59:05.000 Here, we still have nominally the First Amendment, notwithstanding the fact that we have people facing 10 years for memes, but we nominally have the First Amendment, which means that censorship, to some degree, has to be outsourced.
00:59:20.000 And so, the government has basically sustained all of these non-profit organizations that talk about disinformation.
00:59:30.000 Collude with big tech.
00:59:32.000 It's a way of basically outsourcing violation of First Amendment while still paying lip service to constitutional norms.
00:59:41.000 And that is a critical part of the censorship infrastructure.
00:59:45.000 And I think the larger system that we have is you have to think of the regime as this interwoven nexus between government, between NGOs, between various private sector organizations.
00:59:59.000 That all work in concert for a common purpose, and that is to basically dispossess ordinary, healthy, conservative-leaning Americans.
01:00:10.000 And you saw that, I think, very conspicuously in the Twitter files.
01:00:15.000 And of course, people weren't talking about that.
01:00:18.000 They're saying, you know, what about TikTok?
01:00:21.000 I'd say we should have both.
01:00:22.000 We should point out TikTok, but also have a serious reckoning with what's happened within our own tech sector.
01:00:29.000 But part of the bottleneck there recapitulates the same problem I talked about before.
01:00:34.000 On the one hand, the national security state has declared war on American patriots.
01:00:40.000 On the other hand, the national security state depends on American patriots to fight their battles.
01:00:46.000 Similarly, big tech is one of our most important foreign policy tools.
01:00:52.000 Google is one of the most important and profound tools of American influence, soft power influence overseas.
01:01:00.000 And so that sort of underscores the problem of how can we expect these politicians to bring these tech companies to heel When the tech companies are themselves basically subsidiaries of the natural security state.
01:01:13.000 Yeah, and I look, you know, some of the guys on our side, because, you know, I've got to call balls and strikes.
01:01:17.000 I mean, there's plenty of guys on our side that are like, I'm going to go after big tech.
01:01:20.000 I'm like, but you accepted that, you know, $3,500 max donation from Google.
01:01:26.000 And they do it every time. And so, you know, they're very loud about it on TV. And then when it comes time to actually being in the negotiating room and actually passing legislation about this stuff, all of a sudden...
01:01:34.000 The teeth get filed off.
01:01:36.000 There's nothing actually there.
01:01:39.000 That ownership that these companies have over the politicians is truly scary as well.
01:01:45.000 The reality is they're so powerful and they're so important, it's hard to imagine there has to be some kind of Some kind of arrangement at work, some kind of compromise, where you think about, you know, everyone's talking about AI now, and people are worried about not only the, you know, threats of AI to, you know, human safety, but also the competitive aspect of China developing theirs.
01:02:13.000 Well, that's the problem, Matt, because I agree with what Elon's been saying this week, which is like, hey, this is like, but like, China's never going to stop.
01:02:21.000 Our enemies aren't going to stop developing it, and it's clearly powerful.
01:02:26.000 It's sort of interesting. You see the stuff that they're doing with AI and news and this.
01:02:30.000 All these journalists that wanted farmers to learn to code, they're going to have to learn to code pretty soon because they're basically worthless.
01:02:38.000 They're all regurgitating a lot of the same drivel.
01:02:43.000 I guess that's the difference between mainstream and otherwise.
01:02:45.000 I'd like to hear about, again, how Revolver started and what you saw I assume a vacuum in what was being put out there.
01:02:52.000 Well, you know, the start of Revolver is interesting.
01:02:55.000 It started as a kind of alternative to the Drudge Report because Drudge went crazy and we said, look, there's a big opening for it that people needed.
01:03:03.000 So we still maintain a very active and popular aggregation function, but we also kind of evolved into an investigative apparatus.
01:03:13.000 And we uncovered all these kinds of stories and we found that It's really important in terms of telling a story that you want to give people a framework, but you also want to attach a name and a face to a problem.
01:03:29.000 We've done a lot of stuff on COVID and studies on COVID that ultimately were vindicated by Sort of quote-unquote mainstream sources.
01:03:37.000 You mean like the Wuhan lab league theory was never a theory, it was always the most plausible response ever?
01:03:43.000 Exactly. And things like, you know, we did a breakdown of the cost-benefit analysis of the lockdowns, and we showed that, look, there's existing economic literature out there that says for every sort of demotion one has in terms of expected income, that comes with a lowering of life expectancy.
01:04:03.000 And so, at the time, people were saying, oh, it's, you know, it's safety comes over the economy, but you can't disaggregate the two.
01:04:11.000 Well, I love, like, your local coffee shop wasn't critical, but, like, Starbucks was.
01:04:16.000 It's a critical business.
01:04:17.000 Like, why? Because they have more powerful lobbyists?
01:04:20.000 Like, I don't understand. Exactly.
01:04:22.000 And so, we did COVID stuff, but one of the first big ones we did was on the color revolution.
01:04:29.000 It was a specific case of a faction within the national security community, the Atlanticist faction, that's really led by George Soros in some ways, that's best known for conducting color revolutions overseas.
01:04:45.000 People like Victoria Nuland, who is now a senior official under Biden, have been...
01:04:50.000 She's over in Hungary trying to destroy Viktor Erban because he happens to be a conservative.
01:04:54.000 Exactly. Yeah, but you're not allowed to say George Soros because that's somehow anti-Semitic.
01:04:58.000 Right. Like, talking about the things that he actually does and the people he funds.
01:05:03.000 I was attacked this week for calling out Alvin Bragg.
01:05:07.000 The Washington Post fact checker, twice got it wrong, called me out because they said...
01:05:14.000 I said he was funded.
01:05:16.000 Alvin Bragg was funded to the tune of about a million dollars by George Soros.
01:05:19.000 The fact check was...
01:05:21.000 There's no evidence that George Soros has ever met Alvin Braga.
01:05:24.000 That's not even... It's literally not even...
01:05:27.000 I'm like, I don't understand.
01:05:28.000 You got the check.
01:05:30.000 That's all that matters. He donated to this that funded...
01:05:34.000 He controls this super PAC that donates to these radicals.
01:05:38.000 But then it's like... Oh, well, the fact check's now it's wrong, so he got, luckily, Twitter community notes actually finally dunked on him with that, and it was the same thing, sort of like when he went after me when I posted a Breitbart article and a Daily Mail article that the judge's daughter, in my father's case, happens to be a political activist that works for Kamala Harris, and they're like, I'm doxing the daughter!
01:05:59.000 I'm like, wait, like, an adult...
01:06:01.000 Right. Who works for the leader of the opposition party and the second most powerful person in the world, the vice president.
01:06:09.000 That's not relevant.
01:06:11.000 The wife had all sorts of hateful anti-Trump tweets and he's a Biden donor and the daughter is an adult political activist.
01:06:20.000 Doesn't that make you a public figure?
01:06:21.000 Because I know it made me a public figure.
01:06:23.000 Right. But it's different.
01:06:25.000 And so the fact checks, they finally get dunked on, but they're not real fact checks, and you can't say anything about Soros, because that's somehow anti-Semitic, I guess because his narrative is aligned with The party's in charge.
01:06:37.000 Right. No, it's ridiculous.
01:06:38.000 Pretty soon, any criticism, Alan Bragg is going to be anti-Semitic somehow by some kind of extension.
01:06:44.000 He identifies. Relax.
01:06:46.000 He identifies. Right.
01:06:49.000 No, it's amazing.
01:06:52.000 As for the Doxie thing, they have this term...
01:06:55.000 It's another sort of censorship predicate.
01:06:58.000 Disinformation is the big censorship predicate, but they have a new one called stochastic terrorism that has the advantage.
01:07:04.000 It sounds sophisticated to a lot of these mediocrities.
01:07:07.000 They say, oh, stochastic.
01:07:09.000 You have some dumb person with a master's degree or something.
01:07:12.000 They say, oh, I use stochastic.
01:07:13.000 I must be smart. But what they mean by that, essentially, is anything bad you say about one of their protected Well, but like, I have a feeling those same people that...
01:07:47.000 Freely utilized and or have weaponized the notion of anti-Semitism had no problem saying whatever they wanted about, say, Sheldon Adelson, who happened to be Jewish and who funded Republicans.
01:08:02.000 There's a lot of Soros, but I don't think he did it to the destruction of our country, funding radicals who want to let out murderers.
01:08:08.000 You're not even allowed to question that.
01:08:10.000 But again, I imagine those same people said all sorts of things that...
01:08:14.000 Lens reversed would be considered quite anti-Semitic and maybe actually anti-Semitic about Sheldon Adelson because he didn't just blindly follow.
01:08:22.000 No, to criticize Sheldon Adelson is to criticize a Nazi.
01:08:29.000 To criticize George Soros is to be anti-Semitic.
01:08:33.000 Well, and that's before you get into his history, so you're not allowed to do that either because being critical of the things that are known about his story...
01:08:41.000 Right. A little bit odd.
01:08:43.000 Yeah. So I guess the big story that I'm sure our viewers will be interested in because it's seemingly one of the few MAGA guys out there instigating January 6th, at least from the videos that I've seen, is Ray Epps.
01:08:58.000 Yes. You guys broke that story.
01:09:03.000 Yeah. Tell us about it, and it seems like you're also aware of other connections now that seem to be increasingly getting us to the point where we're going to say, yet another conspiracy theory that we're going to chalk back up for the conspiracy theorists.
01:09:19.000 Right. Well, the story, the saga, I should say, of Ray Epps could, I could go on for hours about it,
01:09:25.000 but I'll try to condense it into the most important point because it really is, I say...
01:09:30.000 Well, the most important point is that if he wasn't the things that others have said he is,
01:09:34.000 he'd probably be in jail right now.
01:09:37.000 So, like, you know, that's just the smell test based on everything we've seen.
01:09:40.000 Meaning, I know people whose grandmothers got visited because they were within 1,500 miles of Washington, D.C. and shared a similar name or facial profile to someone that they were using AI to find.
01:09:50.000 Right. But he's fine.
01:09:51.000 Like, he's different. He's the guy that can be, take credit for it in text messages, rile up crowds and...
01:09:58.000 Right. No, it's interesting.
01:10:00.000 So here's the fact pattern on Ray Epps, okay?
01:10:04.000 The fact pattern on Ray Epps.
01:10:06.000 He's the only person caught on camera as early as January 5th, repeatedly urging crowds to go into the Capitol.
01:10:16.000 Emphasis Into the Capitol.
01:10:19.000 It was such a bizarre...
01:10:21.000 Seems like a big deal. It was such a bizarre and out-of-place suggestion that, according to the now famous iconic video, the crowd's immediate response...
01:10:33.000 Was to point at him and chant, Fed, Fed, Fed.
01:10:38.000 By the way, if anyone's doing that at this point, I can't imagine, you know, if it was actually an insurrection, I don't imagine people would show up unarmed.
01:10:51.000 That's not how I would show up to an actual insurrection, but we all know it never was.
01:10:55.000 It wasn't an insurrection.
01:10:57.000 It was a Fed-surrection.
01:10:59.000 Ray Epps is one of the smoking guns of the Feds, right?
01:11:02.000 So he's there the evening before, already has this idea in his mind saying, go into the Capitol, go into the Capitol.
01:11:10.000 Okay, it could be just some one-off.
01:11:12.000 Maybe it was just some random drunk guy who had a crazy random idea and that was the end of it.
01:11:16.000 No. He was there on January 6th.
01:11:19.000 He was a veritable Where's Waldo on January 6th.
01:11:23.000 He was everywhere. And he remained committed to his originally stated mission.
01:11:29.000 He was telling people, you know, Your father's speech was not at the Capitol.
01:11:35.000 It was like 20 minutes at least by foot away from the Capitol.
01:11:39.000 So Reheps was there telling people on their way to listen to your father speak.
01:11:43.000 He said, when the speech is over, go to the Capitol.
01:11:47.000 That's where our problems are.
01:11:50.000 It's in that direction.
01:11:52.000 Spread the word over and over.
01:11:55.000 Just making sure.
01:11:57.000 This is all on video.
01:11:59.000 People don't need to take my word for it.
01:12:02.000 So he does that. And then, by the way, just bracket that, he flies in cross-country from Arizona.
01:12:09.000 He's got his Trump hat on.
01:12:12.000 He doesn't even go to the speech.
01:12:14.000 He flies all the way, this big support.
01:12:16.000 He doesn't even go to the speech.
01:12:18.000 Instead, what does he do? Well, he directs people to the Capitol, and then he just happens to be prepositioned at the exact spot, at the exact time of the initial and decisive assault on the west perimeter of the Capitol.
01:12:32.000 In fact, he's right there by the bike racks, whispering into some guy's ear two seconds before they attack the The barricades.
01:12:42.000 There are so many other interesting details there.
01:12:45.000 For instance, there's one exchange between him and a guy who actually did commit a lot of acts of vandalism and things, and the exchange is very interesting.
01:12:54.000 It's very brief.
01:12:55.000 The guy, I think he's holding something that might be a weapon, maybe bear spray.
01:13:01.000 When we go in, leave this here.
01:13:04.000 We don't want to get shot.
01:13:05.000 The when we go in is, again, an affirmation that the understanding was people were going in, and in this case, that guy.
01:13:13.000 And the reason I bring this up is that on the basis of similar exchanges— He should have been in general the last two weeks.
01:13:19.000 The DOJ has charged people with very serious conspiracy charges for extremely similar types of exchanges.
01:13:29.000 And so some people say, look, the optics of Epps are bad.
01:13:34.000 He's got the Trump hat.
01:13:35.000 He's in the camo suit.
01:13:37.000 He happens to have been a former head of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers, the most demonized and prosecuted militia group associated with January 6th.
01:13:47.000 But these are all kind of superficial, optical things.
01:13:50.000 He didn't go into the Capitol, therefore they couldn't have arrested him.
01:13:53.000 Well, technically... You can't stop him from arresting anyone else.
01:13:56.000 Technically, a lot of people who were arrested didn't go into the Capitol on conspiracy charges and even on lower trespassing charges.
01:14:03.000 He had neither.
01:14:04.000 And the thing is, it's, you know, now it's, you know, Revolver News and Tucker Carlson and other people talking about this.
01:14:10.000 But before, you know, his behavior was so egregious that he was one of the first 20 people added to the FBI's most wanted list of January 6th.
01:14:18.000 They scrubbed that once Revolver started talking about federal involvement.
01:14:22.000 It's so obvious. You know, the New York Times, which is now, like, Ray Epps' big defender.
01:14:29.000 Well, originally, the New York Times did this ominously titled feature on January 6th, Day of Rage, Insurrection Day of Rage.
01:14:37.000 And of all the footage they had to illustrate the nefariousness and the evil and the danger of this day of rage, they selected footage of Ray Epps as evidence that Trump supporters had this plan in advance.
01:14:50.000 So the New York Times had it.
01:14:52.000 The FBI had it.
01:14:53.000 Then all of a sudden, there's this about face.
01:14:56.000 Now he's taken off the FBI most wanted list.
01:14:59.000 The New York Times is doing fully dedicated puff pieces on him.
01:15:04.000 And that's where it gets interesting, right?
01:15:07.000 Meaning, you know, maybe someone slips through, but I doubt it, if they were real.
01:15:11.000 And then you hear that.
01:15:14.000 I mean, you mentioned to me before we started the interview, like, Who's his legal representation?
01:15:18.000 Oh, I'm getting to that. No, this is all the build-up.
01:15:21.000 This is all the build-up. Guess what?
01:15:22.000 These are people that wouldn't even take a phone call from myself or the Trump Organization to do real work.
01:15:30.000 A billion-dollar company, they wouldn't even think about, but they're now magically representing Ray Epps.
01:15:37.000 There's no way someone's not like, no, take care of this guy.
01:15:41.000 It gets better and better.
01:15:43.000 He's off the FBI Most Wanted list.
01:15:45.000 New York Times, which originally presented him in this ominous fashion, now they're doing fully dedicated puppies.
01:15:52.000 They cherry-pick their most obedient national security janitor, the guy whose job it is to do the mop-up job for the national security state.
01:16:02.000 They get that journalist to do this puff piece.
01:16:05.000 Journalistic embarrassment, even by the New York Times' abysmal standards.
01:16:10.000 So they got the New York Times to do a puff piece.
01:16:13.000 Adam Kinsinger, the crybaby who prowls, spends a lot of time on all fours.
01:16:17.000 Adam Kinsinger, who's never met a Trump supporter, he doesn't want to see rotting in jail for at least 50
01:16:24.000 years, all of a sudden becomes Rehab's great defender.
01:16:27.000 The funny thing is you read the transcript of the J6 committee's exchange with Epps.
01:16:33.000 You know, Epps at that time had a different lawyer who, incidentally, happened to be a nine-year veteran of the FBI Phoenix field office, but that's another man.
01:16:41.000 I'm shocked to hear this. But the funny thing is, in the transcript, Don Jr.
01:16:46.000 is a more vigorous defender of Epps than Epps' own lawyer.
01:16:51.000 Um, uh, it...
01:16:53.000 He just defends Epps one place after another.
01:16:57.000 You mean Kimsinger? Sorry.
01:16:59.000 I was like, wait a minute.
01:17:01.000 I'm like, I'm sorry. Fake news!
01:17:04.000 Fake news! I don't think I was defending him.
01:17:07.000 I'm saying, if this guy's the guy he's getting, why is he the one getting, you know, literally people who walked around taking selfies videos inside the Bella Rubs.
01:17:14.000 Edit that out. My mistake.
01:17:17.000 We're alive, but it's okay.
01:17:20.000 And by the way...
01:17:22.000 I'm actually more insulted that you'd confuse me with Kinzinger.
01:17:27.000 Yikes, but okay.
01:17:29.000 I'll forgive you, I think.
01:17:30.000 Adam Kinzinger is a more aggressive defender of Epps and Epps' own lawyer.
01:17:36.000 He bends over backwards to offer the most implausibly charitable explanation for inconsistency after inconsistency after lie revealed in the transcript.
01:17:50.000 And so you have Kinzinger...
01:17:51.000 So our roster includes FBI taking him off the list, Him not being prosecuted for anything when he clearly could have.
01:18:00.000 New York Times coming to his defense doing fully dedicated puff pieces on him.
01:18:06.000 Adam Kinzinger coming to his defense more so than his own lawyer.
01:18:11.000 And then the coup de grace, the way to cap it all off is his new legal representation which you won't believe.
01:18:18.000 His new legal representation is this guy called Michael Tedder.
01:18:23.000 And Tatter works for arguably the most notorious and disgraced hatchet men that represents the nexus between the Clinton machine and the deep state, and that's David Brock, the guy who did the notorious...
01:18:41.000 A David Brock memo, right?
01:18:43.000 You know, just basically laying out a blueprint for all the different ways that they can subvert, undermine, and neutralize their father's presidency from day one.
01:18:53.000 This was the Brock memo, the guy behind Media Matters, which is, you know, the lower scale, sort of the downscale version of the Soros-funded propaganda outlets, is involved with everything.
01:19:09.000 His fingers are in just about every operation.
01:19:11.000 And so a guy in employment of David Brock, Is representing Epps, and not only that, but this guy Tater, he's an alumnus of the also notorious, also disgraced law firm Perkins Coy.
01:19:24.000 And what is Perkins Coy best known for?
01:19:26.000 This is like literally Democrat, like this is the Democrat machine, like literally taking care of the leader of the MAGA rebellion.
01:19:35.000 It's sort of amazing how that happens.
01:19:36.000 Like definitely not, like any one of those like seven things, you'd be like, fed, like, but all seven of them?
01:19:43.000 Exactly. All seven of them?
01:19:45.000 How do we get to the bottom of it?
01:19:46.000 How do we figure that out, though?
01:19:47.000 The thing about Perkins' coin, though, just additional details, besides basically being more or less, they more or less cooked up the Steele dossier.
01:19:56.000 They played a huge role in Steele dossier and the Russia hoax and, you know, relationship with Fusion DPS, the whole deal.
01:20:03.000 But it also came out, I think...
01:20:06.000 The great Matt Gaetz exposed this, that the FBI had their own dedicated workstation within the law offices of Perkins Coie, as though you needed sort of a tangible representation of this nexus between the Democrats and the deep state, and now it's No other MAGA person, though.
01:20:36.000 Just him, right? No other.
01:20:38.000 No other. No other.
01:20:39.000 Ray Epps, the man with the MAGA hat, in camouflage.
01:20:44.000 The former head of the Arizona chapter of the most demonized militia group associated with J6, who's notoriously on camera telling people to go into the Capitol, into the Capitol, and who, as you astutely pointed out, has...
01:21:00.000 He's been caught with text messages to his nephew basically saying, quote, I orchestrated it.
01:21:07.000 And he's gotten this Clinton machine-associated lawyer.
01:21:13.000 And the funny thing is, what is this lawyer doing?
01:21:16.000 The lawyer is threatening me and Tucker Carlson with defamation lawsuits.
01:21:22.000 Which is remarkable.
01:21:24.000 For what?
01:21:25.000 For asking questions about a level of coincidence.
01:21:29.000 I don't believe in any coincidence anymore, but this is a level of coincidence that no one who's not an imbecile shouldn't question, right?
01:21:38.000 Right. I think, again, the fact pattern, it's very difficult for a reasonable, intellectually honest person to To look at the fact pattern with respect to Epps and You know, come to any kind of innocent explanation for why he seemed to be protected by the federal government and for why he's gotten all of these unlikely defenders from quarters whose whole purpose is to demonize and destroy people that,
01:22:13.000 you know, look and talk like ramps.
01:22:16.000 It doesn't, it simply doesn't add up.
01:22:21.000 So the other big story that you broke, you know, sort of around all of this, which, again, is maybe the biggest story to magically disappear in history, was the January 6th pipe bombing, or, you know, at least the laying of pipe bombs at both the RNC and the DNC. I figured if it was just the RNC, they'd probably let it slide in Washington, D.C. That story disappeared.
01:22:43.000 I guess I alluded it to in my opening, which is like, just as a rational, sentient being, it's like, so the literal power of the two-party state was going to be pipe-bombed, and like, nothing!
01:22:58.000 It's literally like it was there in case, perhaps, Ray Epps wasn't effective at getting people to storm Through the Capitol or go through the opened doors by the police that we're now seeing on video, whatever it may be.
01:23:12.000 If they weren't able to create that narrative, something else may have happened to create the outrage cycle to turn the world against Trump or whatever it may be and conservatives and Republicans and solidify all of this.
01:23:26.000 How does... An attempted bombing of the two heads of the institutions of a two-party state just disappear?
01:23:35.000 That's a really good question, and I really commend you because I've seen you bring attention to this issue in other contexts.
01:23:45.000 It's the second smoking gun of the Fed's erection.
01:23:49.000 And again, this is something I could go on for hours, but I'll condense it, I think, into the most shocking points.
01:23:56.000 And so let's start with the circumstances of the pipe bomb's discovery.
01:24:01.000 I say two things are independently basically so unlikely as to be impossible, and both these sets of things happened.
01:24:10.000 And both of those sets of things had to happen in order for the official version to make sense.
01:24:14.000 So one part is the circumstances under which the pipe bomb near the RNC was discovered.
01:24:22.000 So the official version says some random pedestrian Happens to stumble upon this pipe bomb, which is not out in the open.
01:24:32.000 It's very kind of carefully ensconced behind a trash can in a back alley.
01:24:40.000 Oh yes, because that's where normal people...
01:24:42.000 Go around and search. So a random pedestrian stumbles upon this pipe bomb, according to her version of events, at 1240 p.m.
01:24:55.000 And the pipe bomb had a mechanical kitchen timer, an hour-long mechanical kitchen timer, That was stuck on saying it had 20 minutes left.
01:25:06.000 And so this is really interesting for a variety of reasons.
01:25:11.000 One is, okay, it was discovered at exactly 1240.
01:25:15.000 It has 20 minutes left and it's stuck on 20 minutes.
01:25:18.000 That means this fact pattern One is set to convey the impression that the bomb was going to go off at one.
01:25:28.000 One was when the certification proceeding was to begin in Congress, and one was basically right around the time that the Western Perimeter breach, the one that Ray Epps was involved in, took place.
01:25:46.000 And so it's a remarkable coincidence of events that this random pedestrian discovers it at 12.
01:25:53.000 Think about it. It's to the exact minute.
01:25:55.000 If she had discovered it at any other minute...
01:25:58.000 It's literally impossible.
01:25:59.000 If she had discovered it at any other minute, it would not have conveyed the exact impression that was set to go off at 1 o'clock.
01:26:08.000 And the reason this is important is that the version of events espoused by Stephen Sun, the former head of the Capitol...
01:26:16.000 The dial was stuck that way.
01:26:17.000 The dial was stuck. So it's not only that, but these pipe bombs were planted the evening before.
01:26:22.000 So the pipe bomb was sitting there overnight for like 17 hours, more, 17 hours plus.
01:26:29.000 And like, I've been to these buildings, like there's security around, like they have guards.
01:26:33.000 And it was discovered to the exact minute to convey the impression that it was going to go off at 1.
01:26:38.000 And so the woman, the random pedestrian who found it, put in a call to the Capitol Police at 1240.
01:26:46.000 The police started responding to it about 10 minutes later, around 1250.
01:26:51.000 The first breach of the western perimeter of the Capitol was 1252.
01:26:58.000 So, the official version espoused by Stevenson was, look, we think that those pipe bonds, because they were planted the evening before and because they only had a one-hour timer, they were planted as a diversion because the whole idea was to divert critical resources away from the capital in order to maximize the effectiveness of that western perimeter breach.
01:27:22.000 But in order for it to be a diversion, the pipe bomber would have had to have counted on it being discovered at that exact time.
01:27:30.000 Otherwise, if it had been discovered earlier, it would just beep up security.
01:27:35.000 It was discovered right at that...
01:27:37.000 And then it stuck. And then you put a bomb there with a one-hour timer, 12-plus hours in advance, etc.
01:27:43.000 So that's one set of...
01:27:47.000 Remarkably, cosmically implausible, infinitesimally implausible set of events.
01:27:53.000 But then we go to the DNC side, because there was also a pipe bomb at the DNC that was much more conspicuous than the one, as I said, carefully ensconced behind The trash bin.
01:28:03.000 It was sitting right out there at the foot of a park bench right outside of the DNC building.
01:28:10.000 Now again, it's weird the circumstances under which the RNC bomb was found.
01:28:16.000 It's even weirder the circumstances under which the DNC pipe bomb was not found.
01:28:22.000 This also was planted the evening before.
01:28:25.000 It was sitting there for 17 hours in a conspicuous place.
01:28:29.000 And here are the list of people who didn't find it.
01:28:33.000 No motorists or pedestrians on a very high foot traffic day on January 6th, right out in the open, because this was fairly close to the Capitol.
01:28:41.000 No pedestrians with foot traffic.
01:28:43.000 There's a physical security guard.
01:28:46.000 We proved this in our reporting.
01:28:47.000 A physical security guard regularly stationed no more than 12 feet away from where the pipe bomb was planted.
01:28:54.000 That physical security guard managed not to see it.
01:28:58.000 And to top it all off, The Secret Service of the United States, the most elite protection detail in the world, did not find this.
01:29:08.000 And neither did their dogs.
01:29:10.000 They say that there was explosive materials in these boxes.
01:29:12.000 And by the way, I've seen those dogs operate.
01:29:17.000 They've swept my house when my father came over.
01:29:19.000 But I've also gone down to their training facility.
01:29:22.000 I got in the bite suit.
01:29:25.000 These dogs are incredible.
01:29:27.000 They don't miss anything.
01:29:29.000 These dogs are better than machines or people combined.
01:29:32.000 The dogs are incredible.
01:29:33.000 They're highly trained, and the easiest thing in the world is for the dogs to smell explosive powder, which they say was on the pipe bomb.
01:29:41.000 Maybe the dogs had COVID that day, and they just didn't have a sense of smell.
01:29:45.000 They lost their sense of smell.
01:29:46.000 The reason, but here's the interesting thing here, is why did the Secret Service sweep it?
01:29:53.000 This had been covered up for over a year, but it turns out that then-Vice President-elect Kamala Harris Was in the DNC building while the pipe bomb was still outside.
01:30:06.000 And as a VP-elect, she is entitled to Secret Service protection.
01:30:10.000 That's why they swept it. Secret Service is on record saying they swept all exits, entrances, right around, no more than 10 feet away from where the pipe bomb was.
01:30:21.000 They somehow missed it.
01:30:23.000 Now, here's the interesting thing related to that.
01:30:26.000 Why did Kamala Harris cover up the fact that she was in the DNC all that time?
01:30:31.000 Yeah, Kamala Harris is so bad In so many ways.
01:30:36.000 But she's the first person that would be capitalized on, you know, I was almost bombed, I was this, I was that.
01:30:42.000 They don't want you looking any further.
01:30:44.000 And it probably, you know, they're going after you because you bothered to try to break it with revolver.
01:30:48.000 That's such an excellent point.
01:30:51.000 The entire media is expending all of its capital to...
01:30:57.000 Amplify this notion that January 6th was the worst terrorist event in the history of the world.
01:31:05.000 You have Kamala Harris, who's always willing to play the victim, always willing to grandstand, and she had the perfect opportunity to say, I was almost killed, the first woman of color VP-elect, I was almost killed, I was within seconds of...
01:31:21.000 By a MAGA terrorist! By a MAGA bomb!
01:31:23.000 She would never let that crisis go to waste if it was even remotely real.
01:31:28.000 For whatever reason, she covered it up for over a year, but it eventually came out and we know the Secret Service swept the air and they didn't find it.
01:31:37.000 So a 17-hour period of no motorist, no pedestrian, no one sitting at that bench getting coffee in the morning.
01:31:45.000 Not the physical security guards stationed 12 feet away and not the Secret Service or their dogs and they're on record saying they swept the whole area.
01:31:55.000 None of them found it.
01:31:58.000 And this is a very interesting fact because, again, if they had found it in the morning, that would have resulted in beefing up security, and that could have, you know, possibly prevented some of the breaches that happened.
01:32:12.000 If it were discovered in the morning, it could foil the plot.
01:32:16.000 The RNC bomb had to be discovered first in order, you know, it just had to have.
01:32:21.000 So there are two of these independent sets of infinitesimally plausible things, and they both had to happen.
01:32:28.000 And just to cap it off, there's real capstones here.
01:32:33.000 The timing was perfect and it went nowhere.
01:32:35.000 And it went nowhere. And here's the thing.
01:32:37.000 How could all these people miss the DNC pipe bomb?
01:32:41.000 That's an interesting question. Well, they have surveillance video.
01:32:43.000 What's the deal with that?
01:32:45.000 Well, Revolver News in an investigative exclusive proved that the FBI is in possession of footage that would show if...
01:32:58.000 The person actually planted the pipe bomb where they said it would, and they are not releasing that footage.
01:33:04.000 There are two different camera angles that we know they have, and they're totally able to reveal the so-called, like, the money shot footage of the person planting the bomb from the good camera angle.
01:33:17.000 They've refused to release that camera angle with no explanation, and secondly, we've shown That someone artificially tampered with the surveillance footage released by the FBI, such as to reduce its frame rate, To a 1.4 frames per second.
01:33:37.000 That's unheard of in the surveillance industry.
01:33:40.000 It just doesn't happen. Yeah, that's like 1940s technology.
01:33:43.000 You have to go to some antique store.
01:33:45.000 It just doesn't happen. The cheapest version you can get is 8 frames per second.
01:33:50.000 There does not exist in the industry 1.4 or even 2 frames per second.
01:33:55.000 And for whatever reason, the critical footage Is reduced to 1.4 frames per second, which makes it impossible to identify this person.
01:34:06.000 And so we have censoring of the surveillance footage.
01:34:08.000 We have tampering of the surveillance footage.
01:34:11.000 And to make matters even worse, who was the public face of the pipe bomb investigation until recently?
01:34:17.000 It was none other than scumbag Stephen D'Antonio.
01:34:25.000 Why is that name familiar?
01:34:26.000 Well, Steven D'Antuono ran the Detroit FBI field office and oversaw the Governor?
01:34:35.000 The Whitmer. You mean the entrapment case where they got a bunch of meth heads to be like, essentially forced them over years, entrapped them into saying something negative and then arrested them?
01:34:47.000 So what are the chances, first of all, what are the chances that of all the FBI agents Christopher Wray could have plucked out of anywhere to put in this coveted Well, I'd say very high.
01:35:00.000 Right. The chances are very high, given what we all know and what should be obvious to everyone.
01:35:08.000 It would be almost impossibly low if people were dealing in good faith.
01:35:14.000 Exactly. And so this person was plucked right out of the Fednapping plot, put in to run the Washington field office in the critical months Leading up to and on January 6th, and this is the person who became the public face of the pipe bomb investigation until I think, you know, some people are just, you know, as your father said, some people are just killers.
01:35:40.000 Some people are tough. Some people, even in the regime, in the deep state, They are capable of holding very deep, dark secrets on their shoulders.
01:35:50.000 Steven D'Antonio was not one of these people.
01:35:52.000 He was in over his head.
01:35:53.000 My view, his body language just reveals somebody who was deeply tormented by whatever was going on, and Revolver News wasn't letting up.
01:36:05.000 They never expected an organization like ours to report on all this stuff.
01:36:09.000 And we're making things very difficult for them.
01:36:11.000 And so he recently, again, in other things, never heard of somebody who retires at his age from that stepping stone position at the Washington field office.
01:36:23.000 It's the stepping stone to the upper levels.
01:36:26.000 And he retired and now he's living his best life as an accountant at KPMG. Yeah.
01:36:36.000 It seems odd.
01:36:38.000 But again, I guess it doesn't matter because they don't expect someone like you or Revolver News to go after it.
01:36:44.000 So we've spoken a lot about the obvious weaponization of justice.
01:36:52.000 These things are a sham.
01:36:54.000 You'd have to be an imbecile to not...
01:36:56.000 To not question. Yet no one in the mainstream media would even present these facts.
01:37:00.000 Of course, this is just...
01:37:01.000 No one would even question it.
01:37:03.000 But what can actually be done about it?
01:37:06.000 How do we fight back?
01:37:08.000 Because, I mean, I think if you're watching this and you see this and you're like, people went to jail.
01:37:12.000 This is so nonsense. It's so bad.
01:37:15.000 It's like, you know, maybe they're...
01:37:17.000 It's like Jussie Smollett, right?
01:37:19.000 Like, maybe he's a good actor, but he's sure not a good writer.
01:37:21.000 Because, like... Who could write a script this bad?
01:37:25.000 And yet they're doing it in our faces.
01:37:26.000 They're jailing their citizens.
01:37:28.000 They don't even care about sort of covering up the objective insanity of some of this stuff.
01:37:35.000 What specifically can be done to dismantle sort of the administrative state and the power that they hold?
01:37:42.000 That's a great question.
01:37:44.000 And it's a tough question because it's a question that people really desperately want to A compelling and easy answer to.
01:37:55.000 No, it's not. By the way, there's no easy answer.
01:37:57.000 There's a lot of them. People want an answer like, oh, we just take them down, we fight them.
01:38:02.000 And, you know, I'm known for saying, look, everything's going to be fake and performative in the country until we bring the national security state to heel.
01:38:11.000 But I think we're at this...
01:38:13.000 Strange position now in the country where people like people on our side we're in a state of maximum awareness but minimal accountability and what we need to do is bridge the gap between awareness of all these things are going on to Have some mechanism to affect accountability like the Twitter files is a great example like We know in excruciating detail the collusion process going on between big tech and government, but how does one even begin to bring big tech to you?
01:38:51.000 Those are very difficult questions, and so I'm not going to pretend that there's an easy answer, but I do think there are two things that we should...
01:39:00.000 Focus on. I mean, first, I have to say, like, I think we need Donald Trump in the White House because he, this is, as he said, this is a time of retribution.
01:39:12.000 He knows the full story.
01:39:14.000 Now he understands, like what he said, that the biggest enemy is not China.
01:39:20.000 It's not Russia. It's not right.
01:39:21.000 The biggest challenge is the corruption within our national security bureaucracies.
01:39:26.000 And so that's a critical thing.
01:39:29.000 And that's at the federal level, at the level of a presidential election.
01:39:34.000 Another thing, I think a lot can be done, maybe more so than ever, has to be done at the state level.
01:39:41.000 Because what do you see with the recent indictment?
01:39:46.000 You see a highly politicized justice system of a particular state Irrigating the authority to itself to basically go after a resident of another state.
01:40:01.000 And I think... Well, they're also going after someone who, the feds themselves, for the same supposed things...
01:40:09.000 Who actually have the capacity to oversee those things opted against.
01:40:15.000 So it's like, well, we didn't get what we wanted from them, so we're just going to do it on our own.
01:40:18.000 So yeah, the state level is huge for all of this stuff.
01:40:20.000 The state level is huge, and I think it's really critical for people and various governments to think about shoring up Intergenerational, robust political redoubts, political sanctuaries.
01:40:37.000 Someone's very intelligent called Mike Benz, who's done a lot to expose censorship and big tech, come up with this idea.
01:40:45.000 We need sanctuary states for conservatives.
01:40:51.000 That's such a crucial endeavor.
01:40:54.000 It's going to require complete fortification of political power at the state level, and there are defensive and offensive dimensions to this.
01:41:06.000 The defensive dimension is...
01:41:08.000 You don't cooperate in any extradition of politically motivated prosecutions from other states.
01:41:15.000 You don't avail the other states or the federal government of state resources to facilitate any such politically motivated prosecutions, even in civil cases.
01:41:28.000 For instance, Kyle Rittenhouse, I think, is facing a civil wrongful death suit.
01:41:34.000 There should be states that come up and say, look, we are not going to recognize the outcome of such civil suits against people who have protected themselves in self-defense in a manner determined by our state.
01:41:48.000 In New York, again, weaponization in New York, you've done a lot of great work supporting the Second Amendment.
01:41:54.000 You're probably familiar with New York's war against the NRA. Now, the NRA happened to be headquartered in New York, you know, ages ago.
01:42:02.000 Since 1860-something. Big mistake, right?
01:42:04.000 But how could they have known?
01:42:06.000 Yeah, you were like, all right, all right. But the thing is, and they're just trying to just rob the NRA blind.
01:42:11.000 What other states could do is similarly come up with some kind of policy or procedures saying we're not going to recognize any such attacks or make it easier for the NRA to simply move and incorporate to those other states and come up with the appropriate defense system.
01:42:29.000 There needs to be a Full-spectrum approach to marshalling the resources of state power, and by state I mean at the state rather than federal level, to combat the highly politicized abuses that are happening at the federal government, but are happening increasingly at the state level level.
01:42:50.000 As well in highly politicized districts like what you see in New York and California and otherwise.
01:42:56.000 I think that is a critical and realistic component of a meaningful strategy to go against these trends that we've been talking about.
01:43:10.000 Listen, I think that's so critical.
01:43:11.000 It's sort of interesting, right? The other side doesn't have to do these things because they have big tech doing it for them.
01:43:17.000 They have media doing it for them.
01:43:19.000 They have the media scaring the people at the local level who'd be doing it.
01:43:22.000 So it really does only flow one way, and that's scary.
01:43:26.000 And I guess if we're talking about the states, you've seen 2016, you saw the 2020 election.
01:43:32.000 What do conservatives have to do different in 2024 to actually win?
01:43:36.000 Because, you know, the weaponization of COVID for mail-in balloting and these sorts of things creates, you know, something that the Democrats loved.
01:43:44.000 I don't know that if we don't do something significant, I don't know that it's actually possible to win sort of a nationwide election right now.
01:43:53.000 What do you see and what's the strategy?
01:43:55.000 How do you change in the coming two years?
01:43:59.000 It's tough because, you know, in 2016 there was the surprise element.
01:44:04.000 Correct. They probably cheated, they just didn't need to cheat as much as they thought they did, and it turned out to be wrong.
01:44:10.000 There was the surprise element, there was just...
01:44:13.000 Initially people thought, oh, you know, Donald Trump is running, this is funny, he's really entertaining, so they gave him a lot of airtime.
01:44:20.000 Now they're doing everything they can to blacklist.
01:44:24.000 Even conservative media.
01:44:25.000 Maybe even especially conservative media.
01:44:28.000 They're doing everything they can to blacklist.
01:44:30.000 There's no surprise element.
01:44:32.000 Censorship really accelerated in the aftermath of the 2016 victory.
01:44:38.000 And because of it, you know, there's iconic footage uncovered by a great tech reporter, Alan Bakari, of the whole C-suite of Google, literally in tears the day after the 2016 election, basically making a commitment, this will never happen again.
01:44:53.000 By the way, I don't think the C-suite of TikTok was in tears.
01:44:59.000 Yeah, get your search elsewhere from Google.
01:45:04.000 The C-suite of Google.
01:45:05.000 So there are all of these things working to disadvantage.
01:45:10.000 I think the one thing is, and in a way, it's like, again, it speaks to the IQ of...
01:45:15.000 Of Alvin Bragg is that I do think that this indictment can be helpful for Trump politically because it removes any doubt as to the stakes and it removes any doubt as to the target.
01:45:32.000 The target is Trump and the stakes are the country.
01:45:38.000 Also, it helps to remove some of the blacklist because people are forced to talk about it and to talk about it in a way that forces one to recognize this.
01:45:47.000 Well, the war has been so aggressive against conservatives that they're finally waking up to it.
01:45:51.000 And we, you know, we're turning the other cheek and we live and let live.
01:45:54.000 That doesn't work, guys. Like, these people, like, they've literally, they would put you in the gulags because they've shown that they would.
01:45:59.000 That's such an excellent war. They'll weaponize everything.
01:46:02.000 You know, for better or worse, perhaps the best thing Trump ever did was just expose that, right?
01:46:09.000 Because, again, it's the notion between this is about American democracy and the Democrats are preserving democracy.
01:46:14.000 No, no, no, no. They're locking up their political opposition and dissenting opinions that were regular people, whether it's J6 or so many other things that we've seen along the way.
01:46:22.000 Right. And the fact that elections are even close when you talk about having, you know, Google in your back pocket if you're the Democrats and you have all of big social and you have all of the mainstream media.
01:46:32.000 I mean, you know, it's our ideas versus their nonsense but backed to the full extent by multi-trillion dollar organizations that are functioning as the marketing arm of the opposition.
01:46:46.000 Like, it's actually hard to believe elections are even close.
01:46:50.000 Right. No, it's...
01:46:51.000 And it's because they're insane and they're jamming drag queen story hour and three-year-olds chopping off their genitalia as normal.
01:47:00.000 Right. So they're their own worst enemies, but at least we've exposed that.
01:47:04.000 Right. There are a lot of structural disadvantages and that's simply a reality.
01:47:10.000 If there's... I'd say not only if there's any shot of winning, but if there's any shot of the winning being meaningful.
01:47:17.000 Because, you know, some people make the argument and say, oh, Trump's going to face a lot of difficulties that, say, some safer alternative wouldn't face.
01:47:25.000 I don't even think that argument is correct.
01:47:27.000 But assuming for the sake of argument that was correct, what are you actually winning if you just...
01:47:33.000 Yeah, the safer alternative is beholden to the billionaire donor class because there's no way they get anywhere without it.
01:47:38.000 They're beholden to...
01:47:39.000 What's the point of even winning?
01:47:42.000 They're beholden to Paul Ryan at Fox News because that's how they're going to get any kind of...
01:47:47.000 You want that guy?
01:47:48.000 We've had Jeb Bush run.
01:47:50.000 We had a Bush dynasty.
01:47:54.000 Was it good?
01:47:55.000 It's great for never-ending war.
01:47:57.000 It's great for their people in the military-industrial complex.
01:47:59.000 It's great for killing hard-working Americans that would do that.
01:48:02.000 And on the cultural battles, they gave up everything.
01:48:04.000 Right. So, like, I don't know.
01:48:06.000 I don't think of that as a win.
01:48:08.000 No, it's not. I mean, the stakes are clear, and you just need to let it all out.
01:48:15.000 Leave it all on the table.
01:48:16.000 That's what Trump needs to do.
01:48:19.000 The national security state is the number one bottleneck, and I simply maintain, unless we bring that...
01:48:25.000 Into its proper place.
01:48:27.000 Unless we bring the national security state to heel, we don't have a country.
01:48:33.000 Everything people talk about, democracy, this or that, it's all fake.
01:48:37.000 It's all a sound bite. It's all fake.
01:48:40.000 We don't even have a political process.
01:48:43.000 In the sense that people think we do, unless we bring the national security state to deal, it's the only thing that matters at this point.
01:48:52.000 The national security state and, of course, the Department of Justice, which is an extension of that security state, it's the only thing that matters.
01:49:03.000 It's all one and the same. Guys, Darren, thank you very much.
01:49:07.000 Where can everyone find you?
01:49:08.000 Obviously, Revolver News.
01:49:10.000 Where can they find you so they can follow?
01:49:12.000 So you can, again, get your news from someone that's not part of the system that we're all fighting against.
01:49:17.000 Revolver.News we have right at the top.
01:49:20.000 Want to see our definitive pieces on January 6th, Ray Epps on Doug Mackey, the person facing 10 years for memes, other stories.
01:49:28.000 Yeah, that was Ricky Vaughn for you guys who didn't know on Twitter.
01:49:32.000 Literally one of the great, the original shit-talking political...
01:49:36.000 Exactly. It was really a Twitter page at the time and then probably evolved, but that guy's facing 10 years in jail for a meme.
01:49:44.000 For going against Hillary Clinton.
01:49:46.000 There are numerous people doing the exact same thing that didn't even get prosecuted.
01:49:50.000 So just understand that is the fight that we're in.
01:49:53.000 We're not on equal ground.
01:49:55.000 There's no equal justice under the law.
01:49:57.000 Those notions are dead and gone and are bullshit if anyone tries to sell it to you.
01:50:02.000 Absolutely. And in addition to Revolver.News, I'm on Twitter at Darren J. Beattie.
01:50:09.000 D-A-R-R-E-N-J-B-E-A-T-T-I-E. Well, Darren, thank you very much for being here.
01:50:15.000 Guys, thank you for being here.
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01:52:06.000 Appreciate you guys.
01:52:07.000 Thanks for everything. Go flip over to Locals.
01:52:10.000 I'll go do my AMA over there.
01:52:12.000 And just keep watching the show.
01:52:14.000 And just remember, guys, send this around to your friends.
01:52:17.000 Let them know and see it.
01:52:18.000 We're only going to grow organically.
01:52:20.000 For the same things that Darren and I were talking about, censorship online or through Google, like I promise you, you're not going to find this.
01:52:28.000 You're not going to find this in search.
01:52:30.000 They'll do whatever they can to suppress me, to suppress people like Darren, to suppress anything even on Rumble.
01:52:36.000 They own YouTube, and you've seen what they've done to their creators over there.
01:52:39.000 Anyone who has our opinions, gone.
01:52:42.000 So spread it organically.
01:52:44.000 Text it to them. Email it to your friends.
01:52:46.000 Have them check it out so that we can continue this movement and that we can actually continue this fight and be successful.
01:52:52.000 You guys are the best, and I will see you on Monday.
01:52:55.000 Have a great weekend. Easter, for those of you who celebrate it, otherwise have a great Passover.
01:53:01.000 Anything else between that I'm missing, if there's other woke holidays that I'm going to get called racist for not mentioning that happened to fall on Easter and Passover as well, I'm sure there's been a few that have been created, probably...
01:53:14.000 Since I started this podcast about an hour and a half ago, I imagine others have jumped in there.
01:53:19.000 So I'll be incredibly inclusive and add all of them in there.
01:53:23.000 But in all seriousness, guys, have a great time with your families this weekend.
01:53:28.000 Enjoy it. Celebrate these holidays because they are incredible.
01:53:34.000 And it's another thing that's been under attack by the lunatics.
01:53:38.000 Hope you have an awesome one.
01:53:40.000 Enjoy it, and I'll see you on Monday.
01:53:42.000 For those of you who want to go check me out on Locals, I will see you in about two, three minutes.