Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - May 22, 2023


FBI Corruption and a Wide Open Border: How Does America Recover? Live with Mark Morgan | TRIGGERED Ep. 34

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Donald Trump Mark Morgan Joe Biden Pete Buttigieg Border Patrol Comey Obama Nancy Pelosi Mayorkas Durham Gretchen Whitmer Marcus Allen Jay Jones Don Jr. Adidas John Genius Kamala Harris Anna Paulina Luna Hatfield Courthouse Alexander Vindman and 15 more
Left-Wing Lunatics Melt Down Over Trump Town Hall, Plus Rep Cory Mills Joins | TRIGGERED Ep. 32 The Left's Takedown of our Republic: Judge Jeanine Pirro on Her Book "Crimes Against America" | TRIGGERED Ep. 38

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Mark Morgan is a retired FBI special agent who served in major roles at the FBI, led an anti-MS-13 gang task force, and later was in charge of FBI Training. He was at the Border Patrol as a chief under both Obama and Trump, and was the Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection under Trump. In this episode, he talks about the ongoing immigration crisis at the border, the FBI's cover-up of the so-called "Collusion" with the DOJ, and why he thinks it's a good idea to have a Border Patrol agent on the show. Plus, we talk about Adidas's new women's swimsuit line, the State Department's new anti-gay conversion therapy efforts, and how the left is taking over all of our institutions. And, of course, we have a special guest on this week's HAPPY BIRTHDAY WHO COULDN'T TELL ME WHAT'S HAPPENING in the world! Welcome back to another episode of "Thanks For In" - RUMBLE! - R.I.P Pete Buttigieg! Subscribe to "RUMBLE" Subscribe on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe on iTunes Learn more about your ad choices. Rate, review and subscribe to "Good Mythical Podcasts" in our new podcast Listen to "The Ringer" Subscribe to our new show "The Dark Side Of" Subscribe and Share the Ringer Podcast! Subscribe to my Podcast! If you like what you're listening to, share it on your podcast and share it with a friend, leave us a review and tell a friend about what you think about it's great, rating and review it on iTunes or review it's cool, rating it on Instapod or whatever else you do it - we'll be listening to it on social media you're clicking it on it's best listening to you'll get the most awesome podcasting opportunity! and more! Thank you for listening and reviewing it! Timestamps: 5 stars is a star rating and a review is a review on iTunes? 6 stars is much appreciated! 7 stars is more than you'll be helping me spread the word out there about this podcast? 8 stars is very helpful than you can help me spread it out there! 9 stars is really helpful, right? I'll be looking out there's more than I can say that I'm listening to me out there and I'm looking out for you?

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00:00:00.000 Good evening and welcome to another episode of Thanks for tuning in. Tonight we're talking with Mark Morgan.
00:00:34.000 Mark is a retired FBI special agent.
00:00:37.000 He served in major roles at the FBI. He led an anti-MS-13 gang task force and later was in charge of FBI training.
00:00:49.000 After the FBI, Mark Morgan ran all three major immigration agencies.
00:00:55.000 He was at the Border Patrol as a chief under both Obama and my father, your favorite president, Donald Trump.
00:01:02.000 He ran ICE under Trump and he was the Commissioner of Customs and Border Protection under Trump.
00:01:09.000 Given everything that's going on in the world, given the insanity that we're seeing between the FBI, the testimony The falseness, all of the stuff that's coming out of the Durham report, the witness tampering as far as I'm concerned, and the intimidation of whistleblowers, as well as the crisis at the border that is skyrocketing and now at the end of Title 42 going to be so much worse.
00:01:35.000 I think Mark is going to be the perfect guy.
00:01:37.000 The FBI and the border are so much in the news.
00:01:41.000 It's going to be a great interview.
00:01:43.000 So make sure you like, subscribe on Rumble so you can get notifications when these kinds of things are
00:01:49.000 happening because I promise you folks, the administration, the
00:01:53.000 mainstream media, big tech and others are definitely not going to want to
00:01:59.000 hear what Mark has to say.
00:02:01.000 But first, let's take a look at some of the top and frankly most bizarre headlines I could imagine.
00:02:09.000 I mean, the news of the week stuff these days is just absolutely crazy.
00:02:14.000 So first up, in case you're in the market for a women's swimsuit, 0.56
00:02:21.000 but wonder how it will fit even if you're a dude with dude parts,
00:02:26.000 guys, Adidas, they have you covered.
00:02:31.000 They're now having male models in their women's swimsuits.
00:02:37.000 Check it out and see for yourself if you can handle it.
00:02:41.000 Guys, who exactly is the target audience for this swimsuit?
00:02:55.000 If you're a woman, I don't know that you want the extra material there. 1.00
00:02:58.000 I think that would look pretty sloppy. 0.98
00:03:01.000 I think that'd be pretty ridiculous. 0.56
00:03:03.000 I don't know that that many men are actually doing it.
00:03:05.000 What's the purpose of this?
00:03:07.000 It's not women, right? 1.00
00:03:08.000 That's not the audience.
00:03:09.000 Are there that many dudes in the market for an Adidas swimsuit designed for women? 0.98
00:03:16.000 I sort of doubt it. It just seems like the liberals in marketing departments everywhere are trying to please themselves.
00:03:24.000 They're trying to outwoke themselves.
00:03:27.000 And they're letting everyone think that this is normal, folks, and it isn't.
00:03:33.000 But this sort of thinking, it's taken over all of our institutions.
00:03:38.000 It's taken over all of the major corporations out there.
00:03:41.000 I mean, you see the commercial now for the like the gay Ford Raptor or whatever that one is. 0.60
00:03:45.000 I mean, it's just enveloped everything and it's never going to stop until we call it out.
00:03:52.000 But speaking of institutions that it's taken over, the State Department today is focusing on International Day
00:04:01.000 Against Homophobia, Biphobia, Interphobia and Transphobia.
00:04:08.000 Yes, folks, that's not actually a joke.
00:04:11.000 I don't even know what interphobia is.
00:04:14.000 Like, what the hell does that even mean?
00:04:16.000 But the various serious people at the State Department, namely Secretary of State Blinken,
00:04:22.000 tweeted, We call for an end to harmful conversion therapy practices.
00:04:29.000 Interesting.
00:04:31.000 Harmful conversion therapy practices, including those that attempt to change a person's sexual
00:04:38.000 orientation, gender identity, or expression.
00:04:43.000 I guess, or sex characteristics. 1.00
00:04:47.000 So out of curiosity, folks, I think I know what he's trying to do, but I think he's also an idiot. 0.99
00:04:57.000 Does he realize that he just came out against practices to change a person's gender and sex characteristics? 0.99
00:05:06.000 Isn't that what they're trying to do to our three-year-olds?
00:05:09.000 Isn't that what they're trying to make normal?
00:05:11.000 Isn't that the practice that they're trying to get, you know, carve parents out of to allow a three-year-old to mutilate their body and change their sex characteristics?
00:05:22.000 I mean, it seems so.
00:05:24.000 Obviously, he doesn't realize that.
00:05:26.000 This is just another example of left-wing logic that flies in the face of reality, but that's never going to stop that.
00:05:34.000 And that brings us to Wired Magazine, which just published what could only be called a love letter to Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg. 0.73
00:05:46.000 The article goes on and on about how damn smart Pete Buttigieg is.
00:05:53.000 Even though everything under the control of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg seems to be a disaster. 0.57
00:06:00.000 You guys remember the train derailments and the air traffic control disasters and East Palestine, Ohio, and all of these things.
00:06:11.000 And how about the minor details of...
00:06:15.000 A supply chain crisis affecting 360 million Americans.
00:06:20.000 But, you know, Pete Buttigieg had plenty of time to take some paternity leave and chest feed while Americans sat there not being able to access goods and services.
00:06:33.000 Some of the experts from this article I think you'll appreciate.
00:06:36.000 Sure, the U.S. Secretary of Transportation has thoughts on building bridges, but infrastructure occupies just a sliver of his voluminous mind.
00:06:49.000 As Secretary Buttigieg and I talked in his under-furnished corner office one afternoon in early spring, I slowly became aware that his cabinet job requires only a modest portion of his cognitive powers.
00:07:03.000 Really? It would be nice if he did his freaking job. 0.98
00:07:08.000 If he actually fixed our infrastructure. 0.93
00:07:11.000 If he wasn't talking about racist roads and again, taking paternity leave while Americans are left on the hook.
00:07:19.000 But no, no, no. Wired Magazine sees it differently.
00:07:22.000 He is doing a wonderful job despite the very obvious disasters in our transportation department.
00:07:31.000 Again, air traffic control, racist highways, all of the nonsense that we've seen out of this guy.
00:07:38.000 But no, no, no, he's a brilliant mind.
00:07:41.000 Even if he's failing, it doesn't matter.
00:07:44.000 He's Pete Buttigieg. He checks off a lot of boxes.
00:07:47.000 We're going to turn him into a brilliant hero doing a wonderful job, even if the statistics would say otherwise.
00:07:55.000 And I quote, with a remarkable blend of intellect and empathy, Pete Buttigieg brings a fresh perspective to the forefront of public discourse.
00:08:06.000 I mean, come on now.
00:08:09.000 It's insane.
00:08:11.000 But this is the benefit of being a Democrat.
00:08:14.000 You can mess up the supply chain.
00:08:17.000 Let air travel chaos arise.
00:08:20.000 Emerge and happen.
00:08:22.000 You can still be called a once-in-a-generation genius.
00:08:27.000 Of course, the press would rather fawn over Pete Buttigieg than talk about the other things going on in our government like the scandals at the FBI. Today, the Select Subcommittee on Weaponization revealed mountains of evidence of the FBI's weaponization against conservatives.
00:08:46.000 For example, An FBI whistleblower revealed that an agent at the D.C. office said there were likely FBI undercover officers and confidential human sources at January 6th.
00:09:00.000 Watch for yourself. The Washington field office was putting on Boston, and when they tried to get predicate evidence, they couldn't get it for a very interesting reason.
00:09:09.000 This is George Hill. Joe Bonneville wants to say no, we're not opening up cases of people who went to a rally.
00:09:18.000 And I forgot about it.
00:09:20.000 The SSA for CT2 said, happy to do it.
00:09:24.000 Show us where they were inside the Capitol, and we'll look into it.
00:09:28.000 To which WFO said, we can't show you those videos unless you can tell us the exact time and place those individuals were inside the Capitol.
00:09:37.000 To which the SSA responded back, and I was privy to these conversations firsthand.
00:09:42.000 Why can't you show us?
00:09:45.000 Why can't you just send us the Wait, wait a second, folks. Just hold on a second.
00:10:11.000 I was told We were all told that that was a crazy conspiracy.
00:10:17.000 Like the entrapment with Gretchen Whitmer and all those things led by the FBI. It seems they're spending more time trying to create crimes than they are actually solving or preventing them.
00:10:32.000 The report issued by the committee also found the following.
00:10:36.000 The FBI opened investigations on 138 American citizens who merely took buses to DC on January 6th to go to a peaceful rally beforehand.
00:10:49.000 They weren't involved at all in any criminal activity, but that doesn't stop the FBI. We've talked about this on the show, right?
00:10:57.000 If your grandmother was within a thousand miles of D.C., she got a visit.
00:11:02.000 Real criminals? Not so much.
00:11:04.000 They get a pass. You guys saw, obviously, this week in the Durham report, the FBI and the leaders of that organization could conspire against the duly elected president of the United States in a soft coup, but that doesn't matter.
00:11:17.000 The First Amendment be damned. 0.99
00:11:21.000 Remember, these things are protected activity, but the Washington field office of the FBI didn't give a shit. 0.99
00:11:29.000 The report also found out that Bank of America provided the FBI with confidential customer data. 0.94
00:11:36.000 This was given over voluntarily.
00:11:39.000 Remember that, folks, when you're doing your banking.
00:11:43.000 They just handed it over.
00:11:45.000 They weren't even asked.
00:11:46.000 If they were asked, it would be really bad, but they voluntarily gave it over just in case someone spent something near D.C. Maybe someone who also at one point in their life bought a gun That would signal that maybe they're a conservative.
00:12:00.000 If you don't think this is going to happen again and again unless we put a stop to it ourselves, you haven't been watching that closely.
00:12:08.000 This was given over voluntarily.
00:12:11.000 There was no subpoena.
00:12:12.000 There was no warrant.
00:12:14.000 The data was a list of individuals who made transactions in the D.C. area between January 5th and January 7th.
00:12:24.000 Guys, this is shocking stuff.
00:12:27.000 It shouldn't surprise us, but it should shock us that this is happening in America in 2023, and that it happened in 2020 and 2021.
00:12:37.000 So what did Democrats do with this information?
00:12:40.000 They asked the FBI whistleblowers about tweets from accounts they didn't control.
00:12:47.000 Watch this one.
00:12:48.000 Have you ever used Twitter, yes or no?
00:12:52.000 I have utilized Twitter, yes ma'am.
00:12:54.000 Okay, and is your account at MarcusA97050645?
00:13:00.000 That is absolutely not my account.
00:13:02.000 Okay, that's not your account.
00:13:03.000 Well, on December 5th, 2022, an account under the name Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said...
00:13:10.000 That is not my account, ma'am.
00:13:12.000 You haven't let me finish the question, sir.
00:13:14.000 I might have been the football player. You haven't let me finish the question.
00:13:17.000 And the time is mine.
00:13:20.000 On December 5th, 2022, an account under the name of Marcus Allen retweeted a tweet that said, quote, Nancy Pelosi staged January 6th.
00:13:30.000 Retweet if you agree, end quote.
00:13:32.000 Do you agree with that statement?
00:13:34.000 Yes or no? That is...
00:13:39.000 I don't... No, ma'am.
00:13:40.000 That's not my account at all.
00:13:41.000 I have no idea. I'm asking whether you agree with that statement, yes or no.
00:13:45.000 Can you please rephrase the statement?
00:13:47.000 Do you think that Nancy Pelosi staged January 6th?
00:13:51.000 I just want him to answer the last question.
00:13:53.000 He'll answer. He'll answer. I'm just telling you your time's up.
00:13:55.000 Do you believe that Nancy Pelosi... 0.98
00:13:57.000 Do you agree with the statement that this person tweeted that Nancy Pelosi staged January 6th?
00:14:03.000 Yes or no? No.
00:14:04.000 Thank you. I mean, you know, I'm looking forward to the Wire magazine article calling, I believe that's Congresswoman Linda Sanchez, a genius.
00:14:15.000 Now, it doesn't stop her, right? 1.00
00:14:17.000 She's obviously an idiot. 1.00
00:14:19.000 She's known to be an idiot in Washington, D.C., and yet she can question FBI agents about Twitter accounts, like the random, like... 1.00
00:14:26.000 Steve Marcus underscore 46732-8. 1.00
00:14:31.000 Like, I mean, it doesn't stop them.
00:14:33.000 It has nothing to do with the people they're even questioning.
00:14:35.000 But hey, if it's a good soundbite, why not just run with it?
00:14:38.000 The media will make me look like a hero.
00:14:41.000 And meanwhile, when are we going to get some accountability for all of these Democrat bad actors who continue to push one lie and one hoax after another?
00:14:54.000 Friend of the show, Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna is actually introducing legislation to do just that.
00:15:01.000 She introduced a resolution to remove lying Adam Full of Schiff, many call him, and many others
00:15:09.000 call him Adam Bullschiff, from Congress for pushing the Russia hoax, pushing a lie that
00:15:15.000 was used as the basis to launch a soft coup against President Trump and wasting millions
00:15:22.000 of taxpayer dollars. Remember that?
00:15:24.000 He's seen the evidence. 0.99
00:15:26.000 He didn't see shit. 0.99
00:15:28.000 He just never met a camera he didn't love. 1.00
00:15:30.000 And they would gladly go along with any lie that he pushed.
00:15:35.000 When I did my own congressional testimony in front of his House Intelligence Committee, and the irony that this guy could sit on the House Intelligence Committee is something else, I remember getting out at the end of the day, myself, my lawyers.
00:15:49.000 We couldn't even bring phones into the building.
00:15:51.000 We had to have them in separate locked rooms.
00:15:53.000 And yet, I got out of those things after like 12 hours of being grilled. 0.98
00:15:58.000 And I opened my Twitter account at 7.30, and amazingly enough, every hour of the hour, there was an update on CNN and other leftist organizations during our bathroom breaks, while that piece of garbage leaked and lied.
00:16:11.000 I remember, he must have been the guy that changed some of the emails that I had, where they removed the date for congressional testimony, then leaked it to the press.
00:16:18.000 They changed the date. They got rid of, like, think of it like a 14, right?
00:16:22.000 August 14th, they get rid of the 1 to make it seem like it's a 4, so I apparently had something.
00:16:28.000 You know, six days before rather than four days after the rest of the world.
00:16:32.000 That's how bad these guys are, and yet there is no accountability.
00:16:36.000 It didn't matter. They lied to the American public.
00:16:39.000 They cost millions of dollars.
00:16:40.000 They wasted precious time, energy, and resources.
00:16:43.000 But they're Democrats, so it's okay.
00:16:46.000 The Democrat lies have done irreparable harm to the country.
00:16:52.000 Just like they're doing with the invasion at the southern border.
00:16:56.000 Today we got even more news about the consequences of an open border.
00:17:00.000 The federal government released data on Wednesday showing that a record 110,000 people died of drug overdose deaths in 2022.
00:17:16.000 Think of that number, guys.
00:17:19.000 It's only the second time that drugs have killed more than 100,000 people in a year.
00:17:24.000 You know when the first time was?
00:17:27.000 2021. The fentanyl is just pouring in.
00:17:32.000 Since Joe Biden took office, 3,925 pounds of fentanyl have been seized at the southern border.
00:17:41.000 For perspective, so you understand that number, so you understand what 3,925 pounds of fentanyl can do, that's enough fentanyl to kill 8.6 billion, with a B, billion people.
00:17:57.000 What's he planning to do to stop it?
00:17:59.000 He hasn't issued a plan.
00:18:01.000 He has no plan.
00:18:02.000 His borders are. Genius Kamala Harris is totally missing and absent.
00:18:07.000 So is he just fine with it?
00:18:09.000 At this point, we have to say it's just tacit acceptance.
00:18:11.000 Biden has blood on his hands.
00:18:14.000 It's that simple. When you allow a border to be that porous, to be overrun, it's not just cheap labor for your donors coming across the border, as one of the Democratic Congresswomen from Florida said.
00:18:28.000 It's also deadly drugs.
00:18:31.000 It's children being trafficked for sex.
00:18:35.000 It's everything, every disaster you can imagine. 0.90
00:18:40.000 But those deadly drugs kill Americans. 0.94
00:18:43.000 They're creating addiction. 0.70
00:18:46.000 They're destroying our families, our friends, our loved ones, indiscriminately across every demographic.
00:18:53.000 And it has to stop.
00:18:55.000 But it won't if we allow the insane policies of the Democrat Party today because it's not even the radical Democrats anymore.
00:19:03.000 It's just the Democrat Party because there's no one in Congress on the Democrat side that seems to want to do anything.
00:19:11.000 No one that will call out the insanity.
00:19:13.000 No one that's going to call out the nonsense.
00:19:15.000 So I'm really looking forward to talking to Mark Morgan, talking about all of those details.
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00:21:16.000 And now I'm excited to bring on a great patriot, someone who gets what's going on at the border, someone who gets what's going on within the FBI, Mark Morgan.
00:21:27.000 Mark, thanks so much for joining us here today.
00:21:29.000 I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me, Don.
00:21:32.000 It's great. Well, so let's start first with the border, right?
00:21:36.000 I mean, you've overseen three of the three agencies that really, you know, control, you know, what's going on down there.
00:21:44.000 But somehow it seems to be getting more chaotic.
00:21:47.000 You worked under both Obama and Trump.
00:21:50.000 You worked under both of those administrations.
00:21:52.000 You know, I'm sure you'll get criticized for having worked under Trump, but you were fine under Obama because, you know, that's the way it goes.
00:22:00.000 Can you compare and contrast How those administrations and how those policies differed, and then perhaps how much worse it's gotten now under Joe Biden.
00:22:11.000 Yeah, Don, look, that's a great question that I don't get asked enough.
00:22:14.000 And there is a very distinct difference.
00:22:15.000 Now, make no mistake, even when I was Chief of Border Patrol under the Obama administration, a lot of people don't remember then Secretary Mayorkas was the Deputy Secretary of DHS. So I kind of reported directly to him.
00:22:27.000 And then, of course, Jay Johnson was the secretary.
00:22:30.000 I disagree, honestly, with the majority of policies that they had.
00:22:35.000 But here was the difference.
00:22:37.000 Is that I didn't see them just blanketly lie to the American people.
00:22:42.000 Their policies, although I disagreed with them, they were still trying to come up with some policies that still were balancing their ideology with respect to the importance of securing our border to stop the drugs and criminals and national security threats pouring in, as you described. I'll give you one example.
00:23:00.000 Then-Secretary Jay Johnson said a thousand illegal alien apprehensions a day was a bad day.
00:23:07.000 A thousand. And I know it was a bad day because I was too cheap then.
00:23:10.000 And anytime we had that, it was a bad day for all of us.
00:23:12.000 Now, I mean, the average of 26 months, we're averaging 5, 6, 7,000 a day for the past 26 months.
00:23:20.000 It's completely out of control.
00:23:22.000 And the other big difference, besides not only did they inherit the most secure board in our lifetime, And intentionally unsecured it, but they're just lying to the American people about it.
00:23:33.000 I mean, literally everything that comes out of Secretary Mayorka's mouth about the border security is an abject lie.
00:23:39.000 And by the way, what's interesting about it, it's not like there's nuance to it, right?
00:23:44.000 It's just flagrantly like, wow, there's nothing we can do!
00:23:48.000 It's almost like, well, there's nothing we can...
00:23:50.000 At this point, it's hard to imagine that it's not just tacit acceptance, but not tacit acceptance because there's nothing they can do, but they don't want to do anything about it.
00:24:00.000 They're happy to do that. They want to overwhelm the system. 0.98
00:24:03.000 And do this. I assume it's about changing demographics in the country.
00:24:06.000 I assume it's about sort of flooding certain areas, and that way you can change the census numbers and get more Democrat representatives.
00:24:12.000 Because it can't be anything else, because it feels like the solution is so simple.
00:24:17.000 Trump, you know, and you guys were there, you know, Trump came in, he instituted policies that worked.
00:24:22.000 We shrunk those numbers.
00:24:24.000 They go in, they open it, they allow Title 42 to expire.
00:24:28.000 There's not even an attempt to do anything about it.
00:24:31.000 And again, it's not like it's just a humanitarian crisis and these are real people with real asylum issues. 0.99
00:24:37.000 That's bullshit. I mean, there's real terrorists coming across the border. 0.99
00:24:42.000 I guess they caught more actual people on terror watch lists in one day last week than they did in the prior year.
00:24:49.000 It's insane. Yeah, Don.
00:24:52.000 Look, I couldn't have said it better myself.
00:24:54.000 Make no mistake. This isn't by mistake.
00:24:57.000 This isn't born out of incompetence.
00:24:59.000 This was intentional.
00:25:01.000 And look, I get errors all the time.
00:25:03.000 I love them. I hate your father. 0.99
00:25:05.000 Here's the facts. Here's the facts, Don. 0.99
00:25:07.000 Is that under President Trump, we had established the most secure border in our lifetime.
00:25:13.000 And every single data point, in fact, bears that out.
00:25:17.000 We had established a network of tools, authorities, and policies.
00:25:20.000 And I want to be clear, not because of Congress.
00:25:23.000 Even though the Republicans had the first two years of the White House, the House, and Senate, they failed to pass a single piece of border security legislation.
00:25:31.000 This all came from President Trump.
00:25:33.000 And we did have the most secure border.
00:25:35.000 By February of 2020, we had reduced illegal immigration by 85%, the lowest it had been in decades.
00:25:41.000 This administration on day one came in and started to systematically dismantle that network of tools, authorities, and policies.
00:25:47.000 They claim that we did that, but yet every time they say that, Don, they can't give you an example.
00:25:53.000 I can. The state third country agreements we had with all three Northern Triangle countries, Biden.
00:25:57.000 Gone. The Remain in Mexico program under Biden, gone.
00:26:01.000 The wall system construction under Biden, gone.
00:26:04.000 The restrictions, the refusal to allow ICE to do their job to deport criminal illegal aliens from our streets, gone.
00:26:12.000 And you're absolutely right.
00:26:13.000 I agree 100%. There's no other logical conclusion that you could draw why any administration Would intentionally unsecure our borders to let drugs, criminals, and national security threats pour in, except they have a perceived political benefit.
00:26:29.000 And you hit both points.
00:26:30.000 It's either because illegal aliens are counted as part of the census, and there's a real redistricting going to happen in favor of the Democrats, and they believe every single illegal alien they find a pathway to citizenship is going to equate to a Democratic vote.
00:26:43.000 So this is about ideology and politics, and they're jeopardizing our nation's safety and national security.
00:26:49.000 It's disgusting. Well, it really is, especially, you know, again, it's not like it's like, again, I don't think we're getting a lot of people's finest.
00:26:57.000 You know, I spoke with a governor, actually, of one of the states.
00:27:02.000 I was down there recently looking at it, and he's, you know, they're catching Chinese nationals, Russian nationals, again, people on the terror watch list.
00:27:11.000 Like, what do they think is going to happen?
00:27:13.000 And again, that's before you see the record-breaking number of deaths from fentanyl.
00:27:18.000 Which is just pouring across that border.
00:27:20.000 I mean, they legitimately do have blood on their hands, and yet the media is, you know, they're going along with the ruse that there's nothing we can do.
00:27:28.000 I mean, the border wall could be completed with $3 billion.
00:27:32.000 That's already been paid for.
00:27:34.000 Like, the material is resting there in storage.
00:27:36.000 They're paying to store the material that could be used to finish the wall, but we have 130 to send to Ukraine to protect their border.
00:27:44.000 It's mind-blowing, but I mean, they're acting as though they're the enemy of the people.
00:27:49.000 I mean, they're doing more damage and the fentanyl is doing more damage than enemy combatants to this country at this point.
00:27:56.000 Yeah, that's absolutely right. Look, they blame everybody but themselves.
00:27:59.000 And now, I mean, for the past 27 months, of course, they blame President Trump, which is a complete lie.
00:28:05.000 And now, you know, the new mantra is they're blaming Congress.
00:28:08.000 But the irony to that is, let's not forget, who owned the House and the Senate for the past two years and the White House?
00:28:15.000 The Democrats. Number two is the reality is on day one, President Biden came in.
00:28:21.000 He signed over 300 executive orders with respect to immigration and border security that dismantled everything and then some that I talk about.
00:28:28.000 So it's a lie on top of a lie on top of a lie.
00:28:31.000 And here's what's really important for anyone listening right now.
00:28:34.000 You've hit on the three elements, and this is very important because this is how this works.
00:28:38.000 When you incentivize, encourage, and reward illegal immigration, So we've had over 6 million total encounters in 27 months.
00:28:46.000 Catastrophic insanity. It's nowhere been anywhere near that in any time in our history.
00:28:52.000 What happens is Border Patrol resources are pulled off the line.
00:28:55.000 They're relegated to administrative duties to catch and releasing millions of illegal aliens.
00:28:59.000 The borders are unmanned, unpatrolled.
00:29:02.000 We've literally handed operational control over the cartels, Don, for them to exploit.
00:29:06.000 And what happens? Again, you don't have to be border security expert.
00:29:09.000 You hit it. Drugs are pouring in.
00:29:11.000 That 100,000 number, I think it's very important we put it in perspective.
00:29:15.000 100,000 Americans have died from drug overdose and poisoning.
00:29:17.000 That's more Americans than died from all the terrorist attacks, the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, and Vietnam Wars combined in a 12-month period.
00:29:26.000 And then, like you said, the terrorists.
00:29:28.000 Right now, hundreds of illegal aliens on the FBI's terrorist screening database have been recovered by Border Patrol.
00:29:35.000 The issue is 1.7 million total gotaways in 27 months.
00:29:41.000 So the question isn't how many we've apprehended.
00:29:44.000 The question is, how many potential terrorists are among the 1.7 million total gotaways?
00:29:49.000 Literally, Don, we could have the next terrorist sleeper cell in our country planning the next large-scale terrorist attack.
00:29:55.000 We have no idea. And the last point that there isn't enough talk about are the criminals.
00:30:00.000 Think about that. The 1.7 million total gotaways, there are murderers, rapists, pedophiles, aggravated felons, and MS-13 gang members that are pouring into our country every single day, making their way to every town, city, and state, calling home.
00:30:14.000 Yeah, no, I mean, it's crazy.
00:30:15.000 I'm literally just, the reason I'm looking down, I'm looking at some of the comments, you know, lady on here, you know, my niece died of fentanyl.
00:30:21.000 I think we all know someone who's died of fentanyl.
00:30:23.000 It's been a scorch.
00:30:25.000 It's turned every state into a border state because it's spread so rapidly.
00:30:29.000 And we know exactly where it's coming from.
00:30:31.000 I mean, so you mentioned the cartels.
00:30:33.000 And you've run literally like every, you know, let's call it, you know, border customs agency, you know, in that area.
00:30:40.000 Now, you may not be from the military background, but What could we do to go after the cartels, whether it's offensively or not?
00:30:49.000 Because again, while the Democrats are doing nothing, there is a component that would say, how do you not treat that many deaths?
00:30:56.000 110,000.
00:30:58.000 You're right. That's more than double the amount of deaths from Vietnam.
00:31:02.000 From Vietnam, a war that took place over like 13 years, and in one year we had 110,000 deaths, and it's like, oh, nothing happened.
00:31:10.000 We know where it's coming from, we know who's doing it, and we refuse to designate them as enemy combatants.
00:31:16.000 How is that even possible, and what would you do there?
00:31:18.000 Yeah, I agree, John. This is exactly what we need to be talking about.
00:31:21.000 Actually, I am a Marine.
00:31:23.000 Unfortunately, I feel like I can't keep a job.
00:31:26.000 So that was my younger days.
00:31:27.000 You've done everything, man!
00:31:29.000 I love it. One of my tours as an FBI agent, I was actually a special agent in charge of their El Paso division.
00:31:36.000 On the border, literally from my office, I could see Juarez.
00:31:38.000 The first thing is, John, we have to change fundamentally how we view Mexico.
00:31:42.000 They're not a partner, and they haven't been a partner for a very long time.
00:31:47.000 So first of all, we have to fundamentally shift that.
00:31:49.000 And second of all, we have to understand that not only does the Mexican government not have the political will to go after the cartels, but now we're in a position, and I know this.
00:31:59.000 I, again, I've worked it, multiple agencies.
00:32:02.000 They don't have the capability.
00:32:04.000 They have no political will, they haven't had that for decades.
00:32:07.000 But now, even if they wanted to, Don, they don't have what it takes to defeat the cartels.
00:32:11.000 The only way that it's gonna happen is with military assistance from the United States,
00:32:16.000 in my opinion.
00:32:17.000 The typical, traditional criminal prosecutorial method of going after the cartels
00:32:21.000 that we use a domestic criminal organization, it's a joke.
00:32:24.000 It's failed for decades.
00:32:25.000 It's going to continue to fail.
00:32:27.000 We have to fundamentally shift how we go after them.
00:32:29.000 We have to go after the cartels with the same whole-of-government approach, resource commitment, tenacity that we do terrorist organizations.
00:32:36.000 And that includes military intervention.
00:32:38.000 Now, I'm not saying we roll tanks and we start dropping nukes on there.
00:32:42.000 That's not what I'm saying. But we can use surgical precision military kinetic operations to We're good to go.
00:33:02.000 Yeah, well, and that's the interesting thing.
00:33:04.000 I mean, you talk about they don't have the capability.
00:33:06.000 You're right. I mean, you're seeing, you know, the cartels are not just taking out, you know, local police officers and those agencies.
00:33:12.000 They own them. People are on the payroll.
00:33:15.000 But they're doing the same within the military.
00:33:17.000 I mean, they're more sophisticated than the Mexican military.
00:33:19.000 And again, they probably have people on the payroll.
00:33:22.000 They have people on the inside.
00:33:23.000 They know what the operation is going to be.
00:33:25.000 They can plan. And again, they have the money with the billions that they're raking in from just our...
00:33:32.000 Our apathy, our neglect to fund these things, to literally take on and be their own sort of national military.
00:33:41.000 Don, everything you said, I agree with you.
00:33:43.000 You're absolutely right.
00:33:45.000 And that's why I started.
00:33:46.000 The first thing we have to shift is how we look at Mexico.
00:33:50.000 They are not a partner.
00:33:52.000 They are absolutely not.
00:33:54.000 I mean, you have AMLO, the president of Mexico, that's saying that the drug issue isn't originating in Mexico.
00:34:01.000 That's a U.S. problem. I mean, that's literally absurd.
00:34:04.000 That's because he's on the payroll.
00:34:05.000 And now you describe, you're absolutely correct.
00:34:07.000 I wish people would just take five minutes and get on the website, you know, and get on the web and research.
00:34:13.000 The cartels, they are one of the most powerful, influential, corrupt organizations in the world.
00:34:20.000 They rival terrorist organizations.
00:34:22.000 They take terrorist organizations' playbook and they institute it.
00:34:26.000 I mean, the death and destruction that they're doing to this country rivals any terrorist organizations' threat that poses to this country.
00:34:36.000 And yet we sit back and we just keep doing the same thing.
00:34:39.000 And, oh, this administration, oh, we're going to get tough on the smugglers.
00:34:42.000 I mean, first of all, if we learned anything from 9-11, I was in the FBI when that happened.
00:34:46.000 We transformed fundamentally from a reactive law enforcement organization and mindset to an intelligence-driven, preventative, proactive organization.
00:34:57.000 That's the same approach we need to take with the cartels.
00:35:00.000 We need to stop reacting to them.
00:35:01.000 We need to go to the heart of them.
00:35:03.000 And you mentioned something. Look, we know the precursor chemicals coming from China and Mexico.
00:35:07.000 We know exactly which ports are they coming into.
00:35:09.000 We know where the super meth labs are.
00:35:11.000 We know how and where the cartels operate.
00:35:13.000 Don, we know all this intelligence.
00:35:15.000 We can institute special operations kinetically and do extensive damage to the cartels overnight.
00:35:23.000 Yeah, and the fact that we have, again, no desire, no willingness.
00:35:29.000 I mean, they're not even having these conversations, and maybe that's the difference between Biden and Trump.
00:35:32.000 He'd be like, hey guys, if you don't get control of some of this stuff, we're going to have problems in other things.
00:35:37.000 And it's just run rampant.
00:35:39.000 That's why, I mean, it's so mind-blowing, because again, it's the kind of thing that if you presented the problem to a five-year-old, they could come up with a reasonable solution, and that's without any sophisticated knowledge of how it even works, and yet you give it to...
00:35:53.000 And I don't know.
00:35:55.000 I mean, no, we got total control over the border.
00:35:57.000 It's wonderful. I mean, 110,000 people in one year, followed by another year over...
00:36:03.000 I mean, that's almost a quarter of a million people in two years that Joe Biden has been president.
00:36:09.000 And do we understand how big a number that is?
00:36:13.000 I mean... And I'll tell you, Don, look, first, another phrase you said, so I'm going to agree because I've used it too.
00:36:20.000 They've got blood on their hands.
00:36:21.000 Don, I absolutely agree with you, and that's not hyperbole.
00:36:25.000 And the reason why I say this is because he knows.
00:36:28.000 They were warned during the transition.
00:36:30.000 They were warned. We gave them over 200 briefings.
00:36:33.000 The majority of them were on border security.
00:36:35.000 We told them, if you do even a small amount of what you said you were going to do during the campaign, you will unsecure our borders.
00:36:42.000 You will cause a catastrophic crisis of one we've never seen in our lifetime.
00:36:46.000 They ignored our ones, they ignored border security experts, and they did it anyway, and this is what we happened.
00:36:51.000 If this was done by incompetence, okay, I probably wouldn't say this.
00:36:55.000 I'd say they need to go, but I wouldn't say there's blood on their hands.
00:36:58.000 Because they knew, because they were warned, because they did this intentional, this is why I agree with you 100% that blood is on their hands.
00:37:04.000 Look, we talk a lot about drugs and national security threats.
00:37:06.000 Let me give you another quick stat on criminals.
00:37:09.000 So from 2011 to 2022, 261,000 criminal illegal aliens He committed 433,000 crimes, including 800 homicides, 800 kidnappings, and 5,000 assaults.
00:37:21.000 You know what the mic drop there is?
00:37:22.000 That was only in the state of Texas.
00:37:24.000 This is why I will always support your father, because President Trump understood that.
00:37:30.000 He understood the importance of border security.
00:37:33.000 He understood that that was the right thing for our national sovereignty.
00:37:36.000 He knew that border security equaled national security.
00:37:39.000 He knew that if our borders were not secure, Americans would suffer and die every single day, and that's exactly what's happening now.
00:37:48.000 Yeah, wow.
00:37:50.000 I mean, that's insane.
00:37:51.000 I mean, that was just Texas alone.
00:37:53.000 But you also see some of these things, you know. 0.86
00:37:55.000 Guy that's been deported 17 times and has raped numerous people and murdered someone, like, they would rather release him than prosecute him. 0.86
00:38:03.000 Because it's like, if you're an illegal alien and you're a criminal, you are treated better than an American citizen. 0.71
00:38:11.000 They are giving you more of a benefit of a doubt than you would...
00:38:14.000 As a law-abiding citizen, a taxpayer of the United States of America, they want to let him go, I guess, because it doesn't hurt their statistics as badly, because it's so obvious what's going on that they just want to try to pad that file.
00:38:27.000 But every time I read a report, I'm like, well, this guy's been deported 17 times last week.
00:38:32.000 The guy, you know, he killed his neighbors and their 8-year-old child because they asked him not to fire guns while the kid was sleeping at night in his backyard.
00:38:41.000 I'm like, He just goes and murders them.
00:38:43.000 He's been deported five times.
00:38:44.000 We can't talk about, you know, they try to say, Texas man.
00:38:48.000 No, no, no, no, no. Illegal alien deported five times, four times, whatever it was.
00:38:53.000 He's still here. He's still doing this, committing the most heinous crimes, and they get treated better.
00:38:58.000 If it was me, I'd be in jail for life.
00:39:01.000 If it was you, same thing.
00:39:02.000 But if you're that, we can't make it look worse than it is.
00:39:07.000 It's insane. Yeah, and Donta, to footstep what we said about that scumbag that you're talking about, so he'd been deported three times. 0.98
00:39:15.000 Local law enforcement had been called out there before. 0.62
00:39:18.000 Now, I don't blame them because even if they had called, even if they knew he was an illegal alien, and they would have called ICE under Secretary Mayorkas, he wouldn't have been a priority.
00:39:27.000 ICE would have said, eh, not a problem.
00:39:29.000 Our secretary says that man wouldn't have been a priority because being in the country illegally, Doesn't mean anything under the secretary because he views the law as a mere advisory opinion.
00:39:40.000 So I'll go back. That's exactly why I say blood is on his hands.
00:39:43.000 Because I wasn't even looking for a guy like that.
00:39:46.000 And you're absolutely right. Our borders policies are absolutely representation of America last.
00:39:53.000 I mean, you talk about, how many stories, how many, I mean, there's actually an organization, every day, there's actually an organization in America called AVIAC, Advocates for Victims of Illegal Aliens.
00:40:06.000 We have an organization for it.
00:40:08.000 I mean, Rebecca testified, the mother of two 14-year-old, two sons under the age of 14-year-old that had died from fentanyl poison.
00:40:15.000 They'd taken something else they didn't know was fentanyl.
00:40:18.000 Or the young 22-year-old girl that was savagely raped and beaten strangled in death by an illegal alien. 0.52
00:40:24.000 I mean, when? How many more Americans have to die?
00:40:27.000 And another thing they don't talk about?
00:40:28.000 The migrants. The so-called safe, orderly, humane process for illegal aliens.
00:40:33.000 It's bullshit, Don. It's a lie. 1.00
00:40:35.000 The last 27 months, CBP has recovered over 1,600 dead migrants.
00:40:40.000 We know 30% of young women and children are sexually assaulted on a journey.
00:40:44.000 And you mentioned in your monologue, in your opening, once they even get to the United States, then untold numbers are thrust into the life of trafficking, labor and sex.
00:40:52.000 I mean, it's all a big lie.
00:40:53.000 I mean, secure our borders.
00:40:55.000 There's no downside. It would save American lives and the lives of migrants. 1.00
00:40:59.000 And that's the statistic.
00:41:00.000 I mean, I remember, you know, the outrage when Trump said it in his intro speech back in, you know, 2015.
00:41:06.000 You know, on June 16th, there's rapists.
00:41:08.000 There's not rapists!
00:41:10.000 It's like, no, no, no. 30% of these young women and girls are raped. 0.97
00:41:15.000 30% of millions of people.
00:41:18.000 I mean, think about how brutal that is, what that does.
00:41:21.000 And it's only because we've rolled out the welcome mat.
00:41:25.000 Many of them come because they're like, okay, we're going to get free education, we're going to have free healthcare, we're going to be welcomed in there.
00:41:30.000 They're telling us to basically come.
00:41:32.000 I understand why they're putting themselves in these situations.
00:41:35.000 I don't think they know what they're quite getting into, but how does the American public not know that statistic?
00:41:41.000 How does the mainstream media not talk about 30% of thousands of people a day, millions a year, Being raped.
00:41:53.000 You know, I remember it wasn't when my father gave the speech, right?
00:41:56.000 Actually, no one said anything about it because everyone knew that was actually accurate.
00:42:00.000 It was like two weeks later when Trump started going up in the polls and all of a sudden it was real.
00:42:04.000 That's when the outrage cycle happened because it's all fake.
00:42:08.000 They don't actually care.
00:42:09.000 They're just gonna use it to knock out someone who's a conservative or someone who's competitive against their insane agenda. 0.61
00:42:16.000 So, you know, but, I mean, 30%, like, I can't even, as a human, like, how do they not want to do something about this?
00:42:24.000 Yeah, Don, that's exactly right.
00:42:26.000 That's why I get so outraged.
00:42:27.000 That's why I always say people ask me how I'm doing.
00:42:30.000 I say, hey, look, every day I wake up angry, pissed off and frustrated, right?
00:42:33.000 It's because they intentionally destroy and they're lying to the American people.
00:42:38.000 It's all BS. It's just one big, large, false narrative and lie.
00:42:43.000 I mean, they keep trying to feign this like they care about the immigrants. 0.98
00:42:47.000 They don't give a crap about the immigrants coming here. 0.92
00:42:50.000 I remember Joe Biden in this creepy way leaned into the microphone and said, do you really think that these migrants would come here and risk their lives? 0.99
00:42:59.000 Yes, yes, because you have told the entire world, come, come.
00:43:03.000 If you make it to the U.S. border, if you set one foot on American soil, we're going to let you in. 1.00
00:43:09.000 No questions asked. We're going to reward you and never deport you.
00:43:12.000 You're damn right they're going to risk everything, including their lives, because you've told them it's worth it.
00:43:17.000 If you take away those incentives, like, for example, if you in catch or release, look, you send a medical, you don't have to be a border security expert.
00:43:24.000 If you stop releasing illegal aliens in the United States, shocker, wait for it, they'll stop coming. 0.98
00:43:29.000 They stop coming, their lives will be spared, and we'll be able to secure the border.
00:43:33.000 It's that simple, Don.
00:43:35.000 It's so obvious.
00:43:37.000 It's so clear. Guys, again, this is a conversation you're not going to see anywhere else.
00:43:41.000 So, again, make sure, you know, click the like button right now.
00:43:45.000 Make sure that other people can see this.
00:43:47.000 From someone, again, who knows?
00:43:48.000 Mark has been there. He's been in charge of these agencies.
00:43:51.000 You've been involved in so much that's so relevant to what we're talking about, Mark.
00:43:55.000 But, like, let's expand that a little bit, okay?
00:43:57.000 You also worked as an FBI special agent combating MS-13 gang violence.
00:44:04.000 What was that like?
00:44:06.000 What's the link between the gangs and the cartels?
00:44:10.000 Are they one and the same?
00:44:12.000 Are the gangs a tool of the cartel?
00:44:14.000 Are they sort of their own cartel?
00:44:17.000 How do the gangs take advantage of our border as well?
00:44:21.000 It's a little bit of everything, but make no mistake, what you said about Atul is spot on.
00:44:26.000 I supervise an MS-13 gang task force in Los Angeles, Southern California in the mid-2000s at really the height.
00:44:34.000 At that time, and I still think they are, they are the most powerful, influential, prolific transnational gang in the United States. 0.52
00:44:42.000 Their motto is rape, kill, and control.
00:44:45.000 I think that sums up exactly how they are operating and what motivates them. 1.00
00:44:50.000 But they are. This is what we've been saying.
00:44:52.000 This is why you said it early, and again, you're spot on.
00:44:55.000 This is why we say every state is a border state.
00:44:57.000 If there are gangs in your area, I promise they're connected to the southwest border.
00:45:01.000 They're connected to the smuggling organizations who are connected to the cartels.
00:45:06.000 The gangs are a tool of the cartels.
00:45:08.000 They are an extension of.
00:45:09.000 For example, let's talk about drugs.
00:45:11.000 The drugs would not get into our local communities from the southwest border without the gangs.
00:45:17.000 They are the cartel's drug distribution arm that gets it into the communities.
00:45:23.000 I'll give you one example. I mean, it's so sophisticated, Don.
00:45:26.000 Let's take Oklahoma. 0.96
00:45:29.000 Oklahoma, from the moment the drugs are manufactured in Mexico and they come across our border, they already know exactly what routes they're going to take to get the drugs into the state of Oklahoma.
00:45:41.000 The entire state is divided up into regions, and the drugs go into those regions, and then, of course, the gangs take their drugs and they distribute them through the community.
00:45:49.000 It's that simple. It's done all day long, all night long.
00:45:53.000 Well, you know, in working at, you know, obviously you see some of the stuff, you know, yeah, rape, murder, control.
00:45:59.000 You know, I mean, if that's their motto and their credo, I mean, these are, you know, again, as my father would say, not their finest that they're sending over here. 0.98
00:46:08.000 They're animals. They're animals.
00:46:10.000 Well, yeah, exactly. No, Mark, they're human beings.
00:46:13.000 I was like, no, they're animals.
00:46:15.000 Like, there's no other, there's no other word and they need to be treated accordingly.
00:46:19.000 Like rabid animals, frankly.
00:46:21.000 But Do you have any of the sort of horror stories, just so people understand, again, just how bad these people are, just how vicious and violent they are.
00:46:35.000 Just to set that example in the tone, because most people, oh yeah, they're bad people.
00:46:40.000 It's not like there's a level where it's so much further than that.
00:46:45.000 Again, I think you need that sometimes to understand just how evil this all is.
00:46:50.000 Yeah, think of the worst thing that you could do to human beings, and they've done it. 1.00
00:46:54.000 Whether that's burn people alive, behead them, institute a ritual of raping female gang members as initiation. 1.00
00:47:03.000 I mean, Don, it goes on. Think of the worst that any human being could do to another. 1.00
00:47:07.000 MS-13 has done it.
00:47:09.000 They have no rules. They don't care.
00:47:11.000 They have no respect for law enforcement, unlike the The Italian mafia who always had this kind of love-hate relationship, but they respected police for doing their job.
00:47:19.000 MS-13 doesn't have that. 0.95
00:47:20.000 They'll kill law enforcement. 1.00
00:47:22.000 They'll kill your neighbor. 1.00
00:47:23.000 They'll kill a rival gang member. 1.00
00:47:24.000 It doesn't matter. Yeah, I had heard something about, you know, they literally crossed the border.
00:47:28.000 They killed, like, a baby.
00:47:30.000 They crossed the border into California and killed the baby of someone, you know, and then just went back and it was like that was the lesson.
00:47:36.000 Like, they're doing that on U.S. soil.
00:47:38.000 They're not just being evil in Mexico.
00:47:40.000 They're doing it across the border indiscriminately.
00:47:42.000 That's correct. Without even blinking an eye, Don, that's absolutely correct.
00:47:46.000 That's why I say they are the most prolific, dangerous, violent transnational gang operating in the United States that we've ever seen.
00:47:53.000 So if you were in Mayorkas' shoes today, if you could take over that role, what are the things that you'd institute right away to just start shutting this down?
00:48:02.000 Because I feel like there's a point where it's like, you allow it to go on, you let the cartels build up that much money.
00:48:08.000 It becomes much harder To stop that, the bigger these organizations become, the more entrenched, the more money they have.
00:48:15.000 The technology I hear about them using, they're almost on par with what we have in terms of the technology, at least based on what I read.
00:48:25.000 It's not like when we went to Afghanistan, you fight at night because we have night vision and these sorts of things.
00:48:30.000 The gangs have drones and night vision and this.
00:48:34.000 It's going to make it a lot harder to take it back over if and when we get control again.
00:48:38.000 Yeah, that's right. Make no mistake, the cartels are a peril-military organization, and they're armed as such, they have a hierarchy as such, and they're organized as such, and they are extremely effective.
00:48:48.000 If I was Secretary Mayorkas, Don, the first thing I'd do is I'd fire myself.
00:48:52.000 And then, you know, if that didn't happen, here's the thing.
00:48:57.000 Let's secure the border, because if you secure the border, I'm not trying to be tongue-in-cheek here.
00:49:00.000 If you secure the border, you're going to take a very important funding mechanism away from the cartels.
00:49:07.000 So if you, one of the aspects to defeat the cartels, you got to attack them where the money, you got to hit them where it hurts.
00:49:13.000 And so if you secure the border, and we can do that.
00:49:15.000 Look, I say this all the time too, I'm not just saying because I'm on with you, I say it everywhere else, is all they have to do is reach up to the shelf, look for the binder that says Trump border security plan, pull that off, dust it off, re-implement it.
00:49:29.000 Re-institute the safe third country agreements.
00:49:32.000 Start building the wall. Re-institute the Remain in Mexico program. 0.97
00:49:35.000 Give ICE back their authority to conduct interior enforcement to remove criminal aliens.
00:49:40.000 You just start with that. There's a whole other stuff that we did.
00:49:43.000 You start with that. You're going to see illegal immigration drop.
00:49:46.000 You're going to see border security go up in just a couple of months.
00:49:49.000 That's going to hurt the cartels financially.
00:49:51.000 And then on top of that, as a country, we need to fundamentally shift how we go after the cartels.
00:49:56.000 We need to go after them the same way we do terrorist organizations.
00:49:59.000 Yeah, no, yeah. Remember, I heard that they are not the biggest threat to America.
00:50:05.000 It's white supremacists or something like that.
00:50:08.000 I mean, you know, you can't make this stuff up anymore.
00:50:11.000 But speaking of, like, just sort of insanity, today, literally today, several FBI whistleblowers came Forward to Congress to give testimony in which they described retaliation by the FBI, by the Federal Bureau of Investigations.
00:50:27.000 One agent said that the FBI suspended his security clearance due to him forwarding along information that questions the prevailing narrative of January 6th.
00:50:39.000 What do you make of that?
00:50:41.000 As someone who also, again, not just Border Patrol and all of the agencies surrounding, but that was also in the FBI dealing with this stuff, what do you make of the FBI today?
00:50:52.000 Is it beyond repair?
00:50:54.000 Can it be reformed or do you just have to start from scratch?
00:50:57.000 Yeah, Don, so that's the question.
00:50:59.000 I spent 20 years in the FBI, 20 years of my life, the majority of my adult life.
00:51:04.000 And this week's been a sad week.
00:51:06.000 The Durham report and now this.
00:51:08.000 And, you know, your question is spot on.
00:51:11.000 I literally was having that question.
00:51:13.000 Another former colleague who spent 22 years in the FBI, we ask each other the same question.
00:51:20.000 I'm not sure. Because here, I'm going to say something that's very hard for me, is because I think what's happened, it all started with Comey, is it's not just about the leadership.
00:51:31.000 It's a cultural issue now.
00:51:33.000 And my concern is, is those cultural deficits have permeated down into the FBI more so than just the leadership.
00:51:40.000 And let me give you a concrete example.
00:51:42.000 During the riots of 2020, I never thought I would see this.
00:51:46.000 FBI agents on duty wearing their ballistic vest with FBI across the chest.
00:51:51.000 They were guarding a monument in DC and they knelt down in solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement.
00:51:59.000 Don, I'm telling you, in my time in the FBI, that would never happen.
00:52:02.000 That's unconscionable. I don't care where you stand, where you think that's right, wrong, or different.
00:52:07.000 It doesn't matter. You leave your ideology, you leave your politics as an FBI agent at the door.
00:52:13.000 And that's exactly why...
00:52:16.000 A big chunk of America, their trust has fundamentally eroded in the FBI. And today, to hear these multiple whistleblowers, look, we can have discussion, you know, and investigate whether is there truth to that.
00:52:31.000 Is there credibility to that?
00:52:33.000 Those are all fair questions.
00:52:35.000 But here's what happened.
00:52:36.000 The perception is there.
00:52:38.000 This is not good.
00:52:39.000 And the leading Democrat, before they even heard one word of testimony from them, what were her opening statements?
00:52:46.000 She actually accused them of being a national security threat.
00:52:50.000 She attacked these individuals, actually attacked them. 1.00
00:52:54.000 Instead of asking thought-provoking, meaningful, legitimate questions to try to investigate to get to the bottom of it, she attacked them.
00:53:02.000 Yeah, I mean, I think you're right.
00:53:04.000 I wish it was just the guys at the top like Comey.
00:53:07.000 Now, again, I always make the distinction between the door kickers because I can't tell you the amount of times I go somewhere and I'm like, hey, man, I'm an FBI agent.
00:53:16.000 But, you know, the people who would say something, the people who are clearly conservative, the people who...
00:53:21.000 They also know that if they do say something, they're never getting promoted.
00:53:25.000 If you've got the woke ideology, it's like the woke military.
00:53:28.000 You're going to get promoted.
00:53:30.000 You're going to be in those positions of power.
00:53:32.000 So it encourages the worst of the worst, the people you probably wouldn't want in those positions to actually be there.
00:53:37.000 And then they're taking care of themselves.
00:53:40.000 It's so broken.
00:53:42.000 If they're shutting out FBI agents for questioning, isn't it your job to kind of get to the bottom of it?
00:53:49.000 And now that we know, two years later, now that we've seen the video, I'm like, wait a minute.
00:53:53.000 I don't know that too many people, other than the media and the sheep, many of which are in this country, unfortunately, it was the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world, and we must believe that this was... 0.57
00:54:07.000 They didn't show us the video.
00:54:08.000 They didn't do this. And it's hard to figure out for the first couple days, but after two years of not releasing anything, after two years of American citizens not getting due process, and they still want to expand the web to find more of those people, knowing now the insanity of this.
00:54:24.000 But Comey can partake with Obama, with Hillary, with everyone to subvert the duly elected president of the United States. 0.99
00:54:31.000 I mean, that is a broken system.
00:54:33.000 That is something that needs to be burned to the ground.
00:54:36.000 Because that didn't just happen at one level.
00:54:38.000 That happened at numerous levels from the top.
00:54:40.000 And again, there are plenty of door kickers, the guys that do the real work, the guys that understand, you know...
00:54:46.000 That have operated a firearm, unlike the bureaucrats like Comey and these people who wouldn't know one from a hole in the wall. 0.93
00:54:55.000 But those are the people that are making the decisions, and it's much more pervasive, unfortunately.
00:55:03.000 Yeah, Don, look, I agree with you.
00:55:05.000 And there is, look, you're right, the vast majority of the door kickers, the line agents and analysts and television professional support, they're right on and they're good.
00:55:15.000 But you're right. Look, I've been in that environment.
00:55:18.000 And you know, if the culture is going one way and you want to continue to have a decent career, you're just going to keep your head down.
00:55:25.000 You're going to shut up. That's bad for any organization.
00:55:27.000 I think there's a lot of that going on in the FBI. And let's not forget, you know, January 6th, what I think a lot of times, unfortunately, has been lost in the narrative, is the riots in 2020.
00:55:37.000 I was commissioner at the time in, you know, the Portland, the federal Hatfield Courthouse in Portland, Oregon, every single night.
00:55:45.000 Here's why, in part, the American people have developed this distrust in the FBI and the Department of Justice.
00:55:52.000 You know, in 2020, There were criminal opportunists attacking the federal courthouse every single night.
00:55:58.000 Don, they were literally trying to burn it to the ground, throwing Molokov cocktails.
00:56:02.000 They were assaulting federal agents every single night.
00:56:05.000 Not a couple of days, not one day.
00:56:07.000 Week after week after week.
00:56:09.000 And to my knowledge, there hasn't been one single federal investigation with respect to criminal opportunists literally trying to burn down a federal courthouse.
00:56:18.000 The last time I checked, that's also an important symbolism of American justice.
00:56:22.000 So, you know, when I saw this today, and I saw Democrats attacking these individuals that have come forward, you said another thing that's very important.
00:56:31.000 I mean, an FBI agent, part of what we do is investigate to ask questions.
00:56:37.000 None of that, right?
00:56:38.000 Right? No, you must, Mark, you must just take the talking points put forth by someone who's not actually in law enforcement, but, you know, Adam Schiff or one of the other liars in Congress, and you must blindly follow it.
00:56:50.000 You can't actually investigate.
00:56:52.000 You can't actually get to the bottom of it.
00:56:54.000 Then you see the obvious things.
00:56:55.000 I mean, you know, I'd love your thoughts on sort of the whole entrapment scheme around, you know, the fake Gretchen Whitmer, governor of Michigan, kidnapping.
00:57:04.000 I mean, it's literally...
00:57:06.000 Clear. I mean, it's not even, like, it's not an exaggeration or hyperbole.
00:57:10.000 There were teams of FBI agents that could be actually investigating real crimes.
00:57:15.000 They could be trying to prevent things like, you know, the Wisconsin Christmas Parade massacre from a black supremacist, someone who'd been on social media actively promoting these things. 0.81
00:57:27.000 You know, but when that happens, it was a car that drove through a parade, not a racist individual.
00:57:33.000 They were on the radar, but, you know, we checked a couple boxes, so we couldn't actually investigate it.
00:57:38.000 If they spend as much time trying to prevent actual crimes as they do seemingly trying to entrap people and push them into committing them...
00:57:50.000 So that they can, you know, come on.
00:57:51.000 Oh, we stopped it. It's amazing.
00:57:53.000 I was like, we had 30 people trying to convince, like, one meth head to do something, and, like, for a two-year period of time, and that's what you're doing with your time?
00:58:02.000 Yeah, yeah. It doesn't feel like it's good use of resources.
00:58:05.000 Well, look, as I'm listening to you, I mean, you're making the case why a large chunk of the American people have developed a distrust in the FBI and the Department of Justice.
00:58:17.000 Everything you just said, that's not hyperbole.
00:58:20.000 Those are legitimate concerns.
00:58:21.000 Those are legitimate reasons why that trust has been eroded.
00:58:24.000 And now, this comes down to leadership.
00:58:26.000 Where is Director Wray?
00:58:28.000 Look, I was a commissioner of CBP, a law enforcement organization, almost twice the size of the FBI. If I was the FBI agent right now, what I would have done the day after the Durham report was released, I would have held a national press conference.
00:58:40.000 And I would have talked directly to the American people.
00:58:42.000 And I would have said, yep, we failed.
00:58:45.000 Yep, here's where we got it wrong.
00:58:46.000 Again and again and again.
00:58:48.000 Here's what we're doing. I wouldn't just generically say it.
00:58:50.000 I'd give them specific details, especially about the FISA and the red flags and the safeguards we put in place.
00:58:55.000 And here's what I would do most importantly.
00:58:57.000 What I was hearing when you were talking is I would acknowledge the American people have lost trust in the FBI. Look, whether he agrees with it, whether he likes it, whether he thinks it's right or justified, it's It doesn't freaking matter.
00:59:11.000 It doesn't matter because it's real.
00:59:13.000 And as the director, the FBI cannot do their job without the American trust.
00:59:18.000 It's his job to regain that.
00:59:19.000 And the other thing that I would do, these whistleblowers, is as a director, I would also say, and to the American people, here's what I'm promising you.
00:59:27.000 I am going to support and I'm going to drive an independent investigation into every single one of these complaints by these proven patriots.
00:59:36.000 And I'm going to get to the bottom of this.
00:59:38.000 And at the end of the day, I'm going to make those investigations public.
00:59:42.000 That's what we need to hear from the FBI to remotely begin to regain the trust.
00:59:46.000 But he's not out there, and I don't think he's going to do it.
00:59:49.000 And that's why I think he needs to go as well as Secretary Mayorkas.
00:59:53.000 Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I remember when there was a whistleblower like, you know, what others in the military that I know of called, you know, Chow Thief, Alexander Vindemann, and these other kinds of whistleblowers were—they were beyond reproach.
01:00:05.000 There was nothing you could say that could tarnish them, even if it was clearly biased, even if they were lying, even if it was proven to be nonsense or whatever.
01:00:13.000 There was nothing— That they could say that you could question.
01:00:17.000 And yet, when these things come out, when agents can show clear examples of reprisal immediately after on them, the second they talk, they're transferred, they're moved, their stuff's locked up, and they're kept away from it.
01:00:29.000 One agent testified, I mean, he literally couldn't feed his family because they locked all of his stuff away from him.
01:00:36.000 I mean, it's so obvious, and yet, you know, if it was the other way, if it was against Trump, if it was...
01:00:43.000 That agent would be treated like a deity.
01:00:47.000 And it's, again, the unequal enforcement of our justice system, of our laws against people like this.
01:00:54.000 These people are treated like they're pariahs for being whistleblowers against something that's clearly wrong against the dictum and the job that they're supposed to do.
01:01:04.000 And yet it seems perfectly fine.
01:01:06.000 And the Democrats in Congress will attack these people.
01:01:09.000 I don't know.
01:01:31.000 That's a different story.
01:01:33.000 Yeah, exactly. Look, Don, what you're saying, it's not conjecture.
01:01:37.000 It's not your opinion.
01:01:38.000 You gave us a perfect illustration where we had a front row seat, and that's exactly what happened.
01:01:44.000 I mean, when I saw today, I saw the Democrats on this committee act like prosecutors going after somebody that they had alleged committed a heinous crime.
01:01:53.000 That's what I saw today.
01:01:55.000 It was unconscionable. I mean, the leading Democrat, she should be a modest and she should be removed from that committee for actually alleging that they are a national security threat. 0.96
01:02:04.000 But look, a fair question would have been to one of them say, hey, look, I understand that you thought the supervisors were trying to intimidate and retaliate against you.
01:02:11.000 But is it possible that they saw that you had, that they really believed that you had committed a violation of FBI policy and they were trying to give you guidance?
01:02:22.000 You know, is that something that's possible, you know, agent so-and-so?
01:02:26.000 That's a fair, reasonable question under the circumstances.
01:02:29.000 I think most of us would disagree, but that would be a fair question.
01:02:34.000 But to say, hey, before they even listen to them, you're a national security threat, and to attack them like you just described, it's unconscionable.
01:02:41.000 That's not who we are as a country.
01:02:44.000 Well, unfortunately, that's where we're headed.
01:02:46.000 But since you worked with both Border Patrol and the FBI, I think maybe you have, like, a unique perspective.
01:02:52.000 Can you talk about, like, how the policy priorities of those, you know, government agencies have changed over the years?
01:03:00.000 You know, was there a particular moment that stands out to you where it was like, man, we're going in the wrong direction?
01:03:05.000 Did you see sort of, you know, that switch that was flipped from, you know, Again, I was guilty of it.
01:03:13.000 When they were doing the stuff to me about Russia, I was like, wait a minute.
01:03:16.000 There must be something.
01:03:17.000 The FBI, there's got to be something to this.
01:03:20.000 I don't think I did anything, but I take 100 selfies a day.
01:03:23.000 Maybe someone took a selfie with me and they're actually connected to something.
01:03:27.000 Even I was giving them the benefit of the doubt as they're trying to go after me for treason. 0.98
01:03:31.000 I think, knowing what I know now, that was foolish and naive. 0.92
01:03:35.000 But... You know, after years of history, you wanted to see that. 0.87
01:03:39.000 But, you know, when you were in these agencies, was there that moment that stands out to you where everything changed?
01:03:44.000 And what was it? Yeah, in the FBI, it was Director Comey.
01:03:48.000 I saw from the moment Director Comey became director, a fundamental shift in the culture in the FBI, and it was not positive.
01:03:58.000 I believe he's the one that started the kind of woke culture within the FBI. His leadership style, I think, led Started to lead the FBI in a very bad direction.
01:04:11.000 Look, Director Wray had the opportunity.
01:04:13.000 I think he could have and should have come in and just clean house.
01:04:16.000 Not personal, but he should have removed all the top leadership and started anew.
01:04:20.000 He had the opportunity. I think he failed at that.
01:04:22.000 I think he's continuing to fail.
01:04:25.000 So, you know, talk about that a little bit.
01:04:27.000 Like, what's, you know, when you, and again, I know from experience, because a lot of people come up to me, but you know a lot more of them, but, you know, how do you think morale inside the FBI is right now?
01:04:37.000 I mean, I would think the vast majority of Americans, you know, the guys that come up to me, it's like, you know, there's a tarnish on our badge.
01:04:44.000 They're embarrassed. I mean, but I think the vast majority of the Americans probably agree with that.
01:04:48.000 They're losing faith in what was once seen as probably the most preeminent Federal law enforcement agency, maybe in the world.
01:04:57.000 What happened and what's going on inside the agency in terms of morale?
01:05:02.000 And maybe the same question as it relates to the Border Patrol.
01:05:05.000 Yeah, well, Border Patrol is easy.
01:05:06.000 They're decimated. I mean, their morale is the worst it's ever been, literally.
01:05:11.000 They know that every effective tool and authority for them to be able to do their job has been removed because of politics.
01:05:17.000 They have no respect for any of their leadership within Border Patrol and all the way up through the Secretary of the President of the United States.
01:05:24.000 It's the lowest I've ever seen.
01:05:25.000 In addition to that, Don, I tell you, in the FBI, I think there's a fracture in there.
01:05:30.000 There's a good chunk of people that are disheartened with what's going on.
01:05:34.000 And I think there's others that are still kind of holding on and they're just being quiet.
01:05:37.000 But make no mistake, at the end of the day, the FBI, they're struggling.
01:05:42.000 And I think they've been tarnished and they've lost what I think traditionally has been known for the world's finest law enforcement agency in the world.
01:05:51.000 So it's tragic.
01:05:53.000 And I hate to do this, Don, but I've actually got to run.
01:05:56.000 I've got to move on to another interview.
01:05:58.000 All good, man. Well, Mark, thank you very much.
01:06:01.000 I really appreciate that. As things pop up, guys, we're going to talk to Mark more about what's going on in the border as more evidence comes out about the FBI. We're going to talk about that.
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