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FBI Lies Destroy Lives, Plus More EVIDENCE of Biden Corruption, Live with FBI Whistleblower Kyle Seraphin | TRIGGERED Ep.90


Summary

On today's episode of Triggered, we interview FBI Whistleblower Kyle Serafin, who blew the whistle on massive corruption within the agency and now has his own show right here on TRIGGED, where he talks about it all. Also, we now have direct evidence that proves that Joe Biden was getting paid from Hunter Biden's businesses, the same businesses that Biden claimed over and over again that he knew nothing about. And why does this matter so much to the media? Because he was getting money directly from those businesses. And why doesn't the media cover it up? Because it doesn't matter to them. And it's only a matter of time before the rest of the country starts to find out what's going on inside the FBI, DOJ, DOJ and other broken institutions like it. We need someone at the highest levels of these institutions like the DOJ and DOJ to speak out against the rampant corruption and cover up that is going on in order to protect the American people. The corruption is rampant, and we all see it everywhere, and it's going to get worse and worse. You can't trust Big Tech, Big Government, Big Liberals, Big Business, Big SJW, Big R, Big Ideology, and Big R.S.E.I.P. - it's time to wake up and wake up to the smell of the corruption going on within our broken institutions. -Triggered, we're all caught up to what's happening inside! . -Trapped! -Jon Sorafin - - Jon Sorrentino , Jon's new show on TRiggered! . . . Jon's newest show on his new show, , Jon's latest book , and much more! Jon s new book, Jon talks about his new podcast, . Jon s latest book, What's the Deal with Jon s New York Times article, and his new book and much much more. Jon and Jon s newest book, and much, much more, check it out! ! Jon also has a new podcast on the new book that's coming soon! , so you won't want to miss it! -- Jon s gotta listen to it? , right here here on RUMBLE! ? Tom's new book is out now! -- Jon's book, Too Sensible For This?


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00:00:00.000 you you
00:05:08.000 hey there guys welcome to another huge episode of triggered
00:05:36.000 We've got an exciting episode for you guys tonight with a lot of breaking news to cover.
00:05:40.000 I'll also be interviewing FBI whistleblower Kyle Serafin.
00:05:45.000 Kyle is an individual at the FBI. He was a special agent who served in the agency for six years before blowing...
00:05:54.000 The whistle on massive corruption inside the FBI. He also now has a show right here on Rumble, so you're not going to want to miss this one.
00:06:04.000 And hear what he has to say about everything going on within these broken institutions, okay?
00:06:10.000 This is someone that had the guts to do it.
00:06:13.000 We hear about that from the door kickers.
00:06:15.000 We hear about that from the retired agents there, people who are sick and ashamed of what's going on
00:06:21.000 inside these once lauded agencies. This is a guy that actually did something about it. I'm sure
00:06:27.000 there was plenty of reprisal. I'm sure there was plenty of attacks. That was definitely not easy,
00:06:32.000 but we need more people like Kyle out there who are unafraid, who will call out the nonsense that
00:06:39.000 it's happening. Part of that is actually just being out there with you guys. So make sure you're
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00:06:59.000 God knows Big Tech isn't going to talk about it.
00:07:01.000 Half the rhino Republicans in Washington, D.C. are going to cover it up.
00:07:05.000 They're not going to let this stuff out there.
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00:07:30.000 So this is gonna be one of those episodes where you actually learn a lot.
00:07:33.000 We learn about all the inside baseball, how this corruption happens.
00:07:38.000 I mean, that's why I try to get from some of our guests, we're talking with congressmen
00:07:42.000 and all these sorts of things and senators.
00:07:44.000 Yeah, we need someone at the highest levels of these institutions like the FBI talking about this stuff
00:07:51.000 because the corruption is rampant.
00:07:53.000 It is disgusting.
00:07:55.000 It is sick. And we all see it.
00:07:57.000 And it's only a matter of time until, frankly, it gets turned on us.
00:08:00.000 Okay? So, speaking of corruption, we now have direct evidence...
00:08:07.000 Shockingly, you know, because, you know, we've been asked, where's the evidence, right?
00:08:11.000 They had emails on the wire, yada, yada, yada.
00:08:14.000 We've never seen more evidence, right?
00:08:16.000 They didn't ask for any evidence when they led the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax for three and a half to four years, and some continue to run with it to this day.
00:08:24.000 But we now have evidence that Joe Biden was getting paid from hunters' businesses.
00:08:31.000 The same businesses that Biden claimed over and over and over again that he knew nothing about.
00:08:39.000 The media believed him because Joe Biden's...
00:08:42.000 He was a great guy and an honorable person throughout his life.
00:08:46.000 You know, despite being a disaster and being known as one of the dumbest people in the history of the United States Senate and despite all the racist things he's said throughout his career and his crackhead son and all...
00:08:56.000 No, no, no. They went all out to protect him.
00:08:59.000 But today... The House Oversight Committee released more bank records showing that Joe Biden received direct monthly payments from a business owned by Hunter Biden.
00:09:13.000 This business, Oswako, received payments directly from China.
00:09:20.000 So, just so we're clear, our president Was directly benefiting from his family's business deals with the Chinese communists.
00:09:33.000 Okay? The CCP. He was directly getting paid from those businesses.
00:09:39.000 And why, you might ask?
00:09:42.000 Hmm. I wonder.
00:09:45.000 Don't get caught up in all the media smokescreens telling you this doesn't matter.
00:09:50.000 Biden lied repeatedly to the American people when he said he knew nothing about Hunter's dealings when, in fact, he was actually getting funds directly from Hunter's businesses, okay?
00:10:05.000 Again, if this was Donald Trump...
00:10:08.000 And Donald Trump Jr.
00:10:11.000 And that happened, it would be a serious problem, folks.
00:10:16.000 Rightfully so. That never happened.
00:10:19.000 Thank God.
00:10:21.000 Frankly, nothing happened, but it didn't stop us getting investigated ad nauseum.
00:10:26.000 It's time to get this impeachment process moving.
00:10:31.000 We would not be having this conversation if it was me and Donald Trump, okay, right now.
00:10:37.000 It would be well underway, because at this time in my father's presidency, I had done, like, 50 hours of testimony.
00:10:45.000 Like I said, Biden has repeatedly lied to the public about his business dealings.
00:10:51.000 He claimed he had nothing to do with Hunter's businesses and that Hunter did not do business with China.
00:10:57.000 All lies.
00:11:00.000 I've sat for five different depositions with Congress, if you want to count the sham January 6th unselect committee.
00:11:08.000 Why hasn't Hunter Biden sat for even one deposition?
00:11:12.000 You'd think the same media that was so sure that we were under the thumb of Russia would care that our president and his son are under the thumb of China and or probably countless other of our enemies.
00:11:29.000 That we'll probably figure out soon enough.
00:11:31.000 You would think that that would be a problem, especially with money actually coming from Russia as well to Hunter and Ukraine to Hunter and other corrupt agencies around the world.
00:11:43.000 It's necessary to get him under oath so we can get to the truth about the Biden crime family.
00:11:51.000 The Bidens have been getting rich while making you poor, folks.
00:11:55.000 That's the reality.
00:11:57.000 They've never contributed anything positive to our economy.
00:12:01.000 And the economy is so bad that even the Democrats are no longer using the term Bidenomics.
00:12:09.000 It was always a little bit ludicrous.
00:12:12.000 Just look at your monthly mortgage rate.
00:12:15.000 Just look at your monthly grocery bill or your weekly grocery bill or every time you fill up your car.
00:12:22.000 Look at any reasonable metrics.
00:12:25.000 Axios reported that the House Democrats told the White House they won't even use the term.
00:12:33.000 One Democrat, probably under condition of anonymity, told Axios the term was seen as tone deaf to voters still struggling to economically and also invoked the president with lackluster poll numbers.
00:12:49.000 Really folks, no shit. I'm shocked to hear that.
00:12:52.000 Americans associate Bidenomics with higher grocery bills, unaffordable mortgage rates, ridiculous inflation, and overall pain and suffering.
00:13:03.000 So Biden is associated with selling out the country for profits, running our economy into the ground.
00:13:10.000 Well, what else is he up to, folks?
00:13:12.000 Well, he's putting American sailors at risk.
00:13:15.000 This is kind of a big one as well.
00:13:17.000 On Sunday, a U.S. Navy ship, the USS Canary, was under attack for hours by Houthi terrorists.
00:13:25.000 The Houthis are an Iranian-backed rebel group in Yemen.
00:13:29.000 One of the first things Joe Biden did when he took office after my father was to remove the Houthis from the State Department's list of terror organizations.
00:13:41.000 I wonder why on earth they would do that.
00:13:43.000 These are not good people, folks.
00:13:46.000 Now, who knows?
00:13:47.000 Maybe they put Hunter Biden on a board or backchannel some more funds to the big guy.
00:13:53.000 10%, 20%, 30%.
00:13:56.000 Who knows? The Houthis were put there by the Trump administration.
00:14:00.000 They were put on that list because they're terrorists.
00:14:03.000 But Democrats actually view MAGA, patriotic Americans, people who believe in putting America first as the real terror threat.
00:14:13.000 So, of course, they remove the Houthis from the terrorist list and instead focus on grandmas that were somewhere within 1,500 miles of Washington, D.C. on January 6th.
00:14:24.000 So again, to recap, folks, Biden and his family have been profiting from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:14:29.000 He's responsible for the worst inflation crisis in a generation.
00:14:34.000 And he's weak on terrorists.
00:14:36.000 That's quite a track record.
00:14:38.000 No wonder Democrats don't want to run on Bidenomics or Biden policy or Biden anything.
00:14:44.000 But what we have to remember, guys, this isn't just Joe Biden.
00:14:49.000 This is what the Marxists want.
00:14:52.000 Because there is no Democrat Party anymore.
00:14:55.000 It's the Democrats in name only.
00:14:58.000 They are pushing a radical leftist Marxist or communist ideology.
00:15:04.000 That's what they all feel.
00:15:06.000 Joe Biden is their useful idiot because he will sign anything that they want into law.
00:15:13.000 He will go after patriotic Americans and go lenient and lax on actual terrorists around
00:15:20.000 the world.
00:15:21.000 He will put America last while putting China first.
00:15:25.000 He will get us into never ending wars to please the deep state stooges of Washington DC and
00:15:32.000 the forever war military industrial complex while sending your kids to go die so that
00:15:39.000 his buddies can make a couple more bucks.
00:15:42.000 That is not just Bidenomics or Biden for a policy.
00:15:46.000 That is today's Democrat Marxist Party.
00:15:50.000 We have to stop calling them Democrats because that's the reality.
00:15:54.000 They no longer even remotely resemble the Democrat Party.
00:15:59.000 They're not even Democrats in name only.
00:16:01.000 They're so far removed from the realities of what we'd have called traditional Democrat
00:16:06.000 values.
00:16:08.000 Because of this awful record, Joe Biden is down bigly, as someone wise once put it, in
00:16:14.000 the polls.
00:16:16.000 Real Clear Politics did an analysis last week, and they found that my father is better positioned
00:16:20.000 in the polls, and I quote, better positioned in the polls to win this election than any
00:16:25.000 GOP nominee since at least 2004.
00:16:31.000 Real Clear Politics wrote that if you're willing to set favorites out this far, you should
00:16:36.000 almost certainly declare Donald Trump the favorite.
00:16:40.000 Thank you.
00:16:41.000 That is something that scares Washington, D.C. That is something that scares the military-industrial complex, the uni-party, and the rhino Republicans.
00:16:52.000 The ones that tell you what you want to hear when they're at home, but then go do the opposite of what their constituents want when they go to D.C. So with Joe Biden on track to lose, Democrats are dusting off their playbooks, folks.
00:17:04.000 They're bringing out the old favorites.
00:17:06.000 They're playing the 2016, 2018, 2020 hits.
00:17:11.000 All over. They've already started weaponizing law enforcement, and now they're back to shouting that my father will be a dictator!
00:17:21.000 He's gonna be a dictator!
00:17:22.000 It's like Hitler, folks, and Stalin, and Mao!
00:17:27.000 If you happen to be in a dentist's room, you know, perhaps waiting for a checkup this month, you'll see that the Atlantic's new issue is completely devoted to this theme.
00:17:39.000 And Liz Cheney was on the Today Show this morning saying that my father will become president for a life.
00:17:47.000 Watch this clip and see for yourself.
00:17:48.000 Try to stay in office beyond a second term?
00:17:51.000 He would never leave office?
00:17:53.000 There's no question. You think he would try to stay in power forever?
00:17:56.000 Absolutely. And yet, in January of 2020, he left office.
00:18:03.000 Peacefully. You know, I know we heard all of the narrative about January 6th and all of that nonsense, and the star witness of the Democrats today, I believe, had to revise about 19 or 20 pages of her sworn transcript because she lied.
00:18:17.000 Minor details. But this is what's going on.
00:18:20.000 The Washington Post is doing the exact same thing.
00:18:23.000 He's going to be dictator for life.
00:18:25.000 Name a place where we weren't better off under Trump, where we weren't more free, where we didn't have more disposable income, where jobs weren't plentiful, where wars weren't fewer, or being ended.
00:18:39.000 These people are desperate, and they're liars.
00:18:42.000 If I describe to you a president that uses the police to arrest the leader of the opposition party, you would tell me that I'm describing a dictatorship, the same dictatorship that Liz Cheney Again, the Washington Post, the Atlantic, and the other liberal, shill, radical, insane magazines would describe.
00:19:04.000 And yet, it seems sort of odd, right?
00:19:08.000 Because there's only one party doing that.
00:19:10.000 Liberals are all about projection.
00:19:13.000 They censor. They lock you up.
00:19:16.000 They try to shut down their opponents in any way, shape, or form.
00:19:22.000 That somehow makes them the defenders of democracy in their minds.
00:19:25.000 And yet, if you looked it up in the dictionary, you'd see that that is exactly what a dictator would do.
00:19:33.000 Joe Biden, his weaponized FBI, his weaponized DOJ, going after patriotic Americans, going after the political opposition, that is a dictatorship.
00:19:46.000 We are living under that right now under Democrat rule.
00:19:51.000 The New York Times and The Atlantic are telling us that a second Trump term would be radical and a threat.
00:19:58.000 Do any normal people actually agree?
00:20:00.000 Are low interest rates, low inflation, higher wages, no new wars?
00:20:08.000 I mean, are those things that people are actually afraid of?
00:20:10.000 I don't think so, folks.
00:20:13.000 These scare tactics won't work because people are seeing it every day.
00:20:18.000 The lies.
00:20:20.000 The advantages they took under COVID. They can't weaponize that anymore because so many people are getting crushed.
00:20:28.000 They no longer believe the nonsense.
00:20:32.000 That's why today Kyle is the perfect guest today to discuss all of this insanity.
00:20:38.000 He blew the whistle on how the FBI targeted parents at school board meetings.
00:20:44.000 That's what dictators do.
00:20:46.000 Concerned parents Who don't want their children being indoctrinated with wokeness, with DEI, with BLM propaganda.
00:20:56.000 those in the eyes of today's law enforcement are true terror threats.
00:21:04.000 Not actual terror threats, not the people who actually commit terrorism
00:21:07.000 or people who are on terror watch lists, no, no, no.
00:21:09.000 We'll give those people a pass.
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00:23:27.000 So, Kyle, thank you so much for joining here today.
00:23:30.000 What you did is so important, right?
00:23:32.000 So many of the people that watch this show, you know, hey, what can we do I mean, you were in the ultimate position to do something.
00:23:41.000 I mean, you took probably great risk to your career, yourself, you know, and beyond.
00:23:48.000 Talk about, you know, how you got there.
00:23:50.000 You know, I hear it. I mentioned it in sort of the intro monologue, talking about the amount of retired FBI agents that come up to me and say, what's going on right now is an embarrassment.
00:23:59.000 It's a tarnish on my badge.
00:24:00.000 It's a this, that, and the other. But At the same time, very few people are actually out there doing something about it.
00:24:07.000 How did you get there that you were able to do it?
00:24:10.000 Well, I guess the first thing is that I was older than a lot of my classmates when I joined and I went to the academy.
00:24:15.000 I was 35 when I showed up, so I had a life experience that was in my rearview mirror that I could actually mirror things against.
00:24:20.000 That was number one. I've worked other jobs.
00:24:22.000 I've worked in the private sector.
00:24:24.000 Most of my life was actually working in the private sector.
00:24:26.000 I spent time running a restaurant when I was in Kansas City, and I worked in a sales job, and I went door to door and pounded the pavement, and I've dialed for dollars.
00:24:34.000 And I've done things that regular people do all the time to make a living.
00:24:38.000 And so I spent time in the military after that.
00:24:41.000 I worked in finance just before I went into the military.
00:24:43.000 I did a whole bunch of these little jobs that by the time I got to Quantico...
00:24:47.000 I thought it would be really nice if I could do 20 years and retire from that job, but I accepted the possibility that that wouldn't exist.
00:24:53.000 And within the first week of being at the FBI Academy, I was already sort of let down with the way that it operated.
00:24:58.000 It wasn't the elite organization.
00:25:00.000 And I wasn't surrounded by the best of the best, like you see in like a, you know,
00:25:03.000 like a men in black movie where, you know, what is it?
00:25:07.000 Will Smith gets there and kind of laughs at the guys that are all with honors kind of guys.
00:25:10.000 Yeah. There's a lot of really good people in the FBI that I met, but at the same time,
00:25:13.000 there's also a lot of mediocrity.
00:25:15.000 And the thing that many people sort of have a hard time getting around is that the FBI is not run by FBI agents.
00:25:20.000 And if they understood that, it would help them understand it even better.
00:25:23.000 This is actually sort of the argument about what the deep state is.
00:25:26.000 It kind of is like looking at an organization with 36,000 people, 14,000 of them carry a gun.
00:25:31.000 They're in the minority. And even if the majority of those people are relatively conservative or libertarian and they want civil liberties, they're already outnumbered from the get-go.
00:25:38.000 And I was one of those people. I believed in libertarian ideas.
00:25:41.000 I was an American patriot.
00:25:42.000 I served their country because I thought I had something to give.
00:25:44.000 And when I showed up at the Bureau, I wanted to do the same thing.
00:25:46.000 And so I'd already seen what an illegal order looked like by serving in the military, and I'd been briefed on that.
00:25:51.000 You get this really good training, actually, at the FBI Academy going to the American Holocaust Museum, which is in Washington, D.C., and they teach you That the only way that real totalitarian states exist, you were talking about it in your opening monologue, the only way that these things happen is if good people who are doing the day-to-day work as law enforcement officers don't throw the BS flag when it comes their way.
00:26:12.000 They have to put a stop to it.
00:26:14.000 And if you don't do that, then you're complicit.
00:26:16.000 And so I wasn't going to be complicit.
00:26:17.000 I got myself kind of in a weird space when that happened.
00:26:20.000 I knew my career was probably over by going public.
00:26:22.000 And interestingly enough, I think God kind of puts us in a space where sometimes you're not raised enough in a game of poker of life.
00:26:30.000 You're not given enough opportunity to do the right thing if it's just one.
00:26:34.000 But I had two things happen at the same time.
00:26:36.000 Number one, the Biden administration pushed forward a very, very nasty and pretty manipulative mandate for COVID vaccines in the EO, it was the executive order, 14043.
00:26:47.000 So they made everybody a decision for those chips right there.
00:26:50.000 And I said no. I'd already had COVID the year before.
00:26:53.000 I was not going to do it.
00:26:55.000 And I'm a pro-life Catholic, and that was one of my original stances.
00:26:58.000 And then within a few days of that, I get this email saying that the FBI is going to investigate parents at school board meetings.
00:27:03.000 And that was a no-go. But it also was really the issue that it looked like the Attorney General had committed perjury.
00:27:08.000 And that's what I actually brought to Congress.
00:27:10.000 It wasn't so much that we're not allowed to look at parents, because there are conditions where you can.
00:27:14.000 But if the Attorney General gets up and says, we're not going to use counterterrorism resources to look at our parents at school boards, and then sends an email from the Assistant Director of Counterterrorism, that's a big problem to me as just a frontline guy, somebody who just knows what balls and strikes are.
00:27:27.000 So that's what I brought to Congress, and that turned out to be a death knell for my career.
00:27:31.000 Yeah, I mean, and yet it feels like every other whistleblower that's out there.
00:27:34.000 I mean, if there was a whistleblower that said, you know, Donald Trump said Merry Christmas, it would be, you know, national news, and they would be protected at all costs, and they'd have a job for life, whether they actually were competent or credible or not, it wouldn't matter.
00:27:47.000 I have a feeling, like so many other things, you know, our two-tiered system of justice was probably different to you and or some of your colleagues that also spoke out about what's going on there.
00:27:59.000 Yeah, I mean, the Bureau is a really strange animal.
00:28:01.000 It's not monolithic, but there is a sort of a swampy texture to it, and particularly where I was originally serving.
00:28:06.000 So I spent five years at the Washington field office.
00:28:08.000 And in those five years, I got more than five years worth of experience.
00:28:11.000 I've had some sort of Bureau defenders, the leftist sycophants types, the bootlickers for government come to you and they go like, well, you're only there six years.
00:28:18.000 What do you know? Well, let me tell you what I did.
00:28:20.000 I spent two years doing counterintelligence, where we basically spied on Americans using illegal tools.
00:28:25.000 And that was a real problem.
00:28:26.000 and I brought that up when it happened. It just turned out that I didn't bring it up at a very
00:28:29.000 high level. You do things inside the chain of command, kind of the way that I learned in the
00:28:32.000 military, until you don't. I mean, at some point you just have to step outside of it.
00:28:36.000 So I saw some things that were there that were pretty troubling, particularly abuse of FISA 702
00:28:40.000 in the way that it is used to reverse target. Of course, while I was at the Washington field
00:28:43.000 office, they were conducting the crossfire hurricane investigation. So that's pretty wild.
00:28:47.000 So that all happened there. And I had cases that had like Peter Struck's name on it,
00:28:51.000 that Andy McCabe, you know, used to be the direct supervisor of some of my friends,
00:28:54.000 and he wasn't very well thought of by my buddies.
00:28:57.000 So that tells you the kind of crowd that I run in.
00:28:58.000 They're not the kind of crowd that ends up in FBI management.
00:29:00.000 They're usually the guys that are on the front line trying to do the right thing and getting screwed.
00:29:04.000 So that's fun. And when you see that go down, you realize that, yeah, you're going to get treated a little bit differently.
00:29:09.000 I also spent three years on a counterterrorism surveillance squad where we saw everything all over the country.
00:29:15.000 We got shipped all over the country.
00:29:16.000 I did 20 plus different what we call deployments, two weeks at a time, to field offices all around the United States.
00:29:21.000 So I saw more offices than most FBI agents will ever see.
00:29:25.000 And I did it in those three years.
00:29:27.000 I spent thousands of hours on surveillance.
00:29:28.000 I interacted with Senior management there and case managers and saw how they ran counterterrorism cases from white supremacy, which is mostly made up, up all the way to like real problems like, you know, foreign fighters and people that have sworn allegiance to ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
00:29:42.000 And you go like, okay, well, that's what we should be focusing on.
00:29:44.000 Why are we looking at parents at school boards, veterans?
00:29:47.000 Why are we looking at people like Mike Glover, who is a retired Green Beret, and calling him, you know, a potential domestic terrorist when we've got real scumbags out there?
00:29:55.000 And it turns out The FBI is kind of lazy, too.
00:29:57.000 What it likes to do is like to invent these cases.
00:29:59.000 And anybody who saw the movie Police State, which was just premiered at Miralago and obviously just had Dinesh on the other day, you know, that's the story.
00:30:06.000 The story is that a lot of this stuff is manufactured, which is pretty crazy.
00:30:10.000 Well, I mean, it certainly feels like that, right?
00:30:12.000 I mean, you can think of all of them, but I mean, you know, but it's also not, it's also very real, right?
00:30:17.000 You have, you know, the DOJ, they want all the access to, you know, anyone who likes a tweet from Trump.
00:30:22.000 I mean, that could be like 100 million Americans or even shared it or interacted with.
00:30:27.000 Are they all now on a list?
00:30:29.000 You have all the lapses.
00:30:31.000 You know, the black supremacist who drove through a Christmas parade.
00:30:35.000 You know, I understand it was the car that drove through the parade.
00:30:38.000 It wouldn't be if he was wearing a MAGA hat and was white, but, you know, minor details.
00:30:43.000 That guy was on a list.
00:30:45.000 The shooter up in Maine was on a list, but they're not actually watching them, and yet you hear about literally grandmothers being interviewed.
00:30:52.000 You see the insanity of what you knew was coming in the Michigan Gretchen Whitmer, you know...
00:31:00.000 The meth addicts were going to do it.
00:31:02.000 After 12 years of them being goaded into doing something, maybe they're going to finally do something about Gretchen Whitmer.
00:31:09.000 Oh, we got you now.
00:31:10.000 I mean, it's literally...
00:31:12.000 They feel more like a terrorist organization to me.
00:31:15.000 And again, I do make the distinction like you sort of clearly did, which is between
00:31:18.000 the door kickers who are sort of patriotic Americans trying to do right, and the guys
00:31:23.000 that are able to excel in the bureaucracy.
00:31:25.000 If you're the good door kicker, you'll stay in that position.
00:31:27.000 If they think you're conservative, you'll stay in that position.
00:31:30.000 If you won't take the vax, they'll move you to guard something in Guam, and you'll never
00:31:34.000 get ahead.
00:31:35.000 If you believe that men should be competing in women's sports, you'll probably be the
00:31:38.000 director in a couple of weeks.
00:31:41.000 How bad is that aspect of it?
00:31:43.000 Because it does feel like every act that's been committed was by someone on a list.
00:31:47.000 Now, maybe they're just watching the entire country at this point, but certainly everyone that has ever been even remotely conservative or watched the show or yours or whatever it may be, how bad is it?
00:32:00.000 Well, it's bad. It's definitely bad.
00:32:02.000 But we should be really fair, I think, when we talk about it.
00:32:04.000 Your dad actually had the right instinct, which is to say staying out of things that are local matters.
00:32:10.000 And the FBI is really bad about doing this because they're all trying to get funding and they're trying to get, you know, more watch list capabilities.
00:32:16.000 And that means that they can write more term papers and put more people out there and justify more funding.
00:32:20.000 It's the self-licking ice cream cone in Washington, D.C. The instinct to leave it to the states is actually the right answer.
00:32:25.000 And it was the answer that should have been the case.
00:32:27.000 Unfortunately, a lot of the states did the wrong thing when it came to COVID tyranny and things like that.
00:32:30.000 But the right answer is always less government and certainly more local government.
00:32:34.000 The Bureau has a lot of people that are on lists.
00:32:37.000 And that could happen. You're probably on the list.
00:32:39.000 I know I'm on a list. I'm on every list, just so we're clear.
00:32:43.000 I'm on every freaking list.
00:32:45.000 Some troll in your chat could make a call about something that you and I are talking about right now.
00:32:49.000 They could call the FBI's tip line and they could make that and you end up being investigated under what's called the eGuardian system.
00:32:55.000 And so a lot of these characters end up on the eGuardian system, but I would say, I don't know, maybe 90% or higher of those calls are people with mental illness that are calling in or they're reporting people that have mental illness or they're self-reports.
00:33:07.000 And it's not a federal issue.
00:33:09.000 It's not really federal jurisdiction to get involved in that.
00:33:11.000 And so if that is the case, we actually want less involved FBI sort of interference.
00:33:16.000 So it's really hard for us because we can see that there's a lot of failures and I can hold them accountable for claiming that they're going to do something and failing at it.
00:33:23.000 I think that's fair. But if we think that everybody that's been reported to the FBI should be investigated by the FBI, we're going down a really dark rabbit hole because we're asking for totalitarianism even faster.
00:33:31.000 And so part of the difficulty with being a conservative, I think, is that you sort of have to have these principles
00:33:37.000 and you're the only one in the game who does because the Democrats don't seem to have them
00:33:40.000 and the leftists that are the extremists certainly don't have them.
00:33:43.000 But we really have to be like, freedom is kind of dangerous and we're willing to take on our own risk.
00:33:48.000 And that's why you should be, you know, like someone who owns a firearm and be proficient with it
00:33:51.000 and do things to keep yourself physically fit and mentally fit and have that situation.
00:33:55.000 No, no, I'm told that physical fitness is now white supremacy.
00:33:59.000 That's correct.
00:34:00.000 Not being a fat blob, being able to, you know, do some pull-ups and, you know, run a six minute mile.
00:34:07.000 That's apparently now white supremacy because they want you fat, they want you weak,
00:34:10.000 they want you in need of the next shot or whatever it is.
00:34:14.000 I mean, it's ludicrous, you know.
00:34:17.000 But, you know, how do you address, you know, the credibility crisis inside the FBI, right?
00:34:24.000 You blew the whistle on the misuse of, you know, and targeting parents.
00:34:27.000 That, to me, would mean, you know, half the country being conservative would say, okay...
00:34:32.000 I could no longer call the FBI. I'd have a hard time actually picking up the phone.
00:34:37.000 If I saw something going on right now, that it was like, hey, am I going to blame this part of this?
00:34:43.000 Am I going to be targeted because of all of that?
00:34:45.000 But you also exposed the FBI's Richmond office for targeting Catholics.
00:34:50.000 Now, they would never even in their right minds think of targeting Catholics.
00:34:55.000 Muslims in America, or probably the sleeper cells that are coming across our southern border, I would imagine, daily at this point, they would never do that.
00:35:05.000 But what was your experience at the FBI that that sort of politicized law enforcement?
00:35:11.000 I mean, it's happening before your very eyes.
00:35:13.000 I mean, how many people just capitulate and do this?
00:35:18.000 Is there anyone else speaking up?
00:35:21.000 There are. There's a small group of them.
00:35:23.000 We kind of have this lapel pin here that we call ourselves the Suspendables, which is kind of our little token brand.
00:35:27.000 It started off as a joke. We wrote a letter to Chris Ray, and the New York Times, of all people, ran with it.
00:35:31.000 So when the paper of record calls you out and calls you by name, I guess you take yourself seriously.
00:35:35.000 It was literally a joke between me and my friends, like Steven Friend and Gerardo Boyle and George Hill,
00:35:39.000 who you may have seen testifying.
00:35:41.000 Like all these guys went in front of Congress.
00:35:43.000 And the joke was sort of like, we should start a mercenary company
00:35:46.000 of people who have some ethics.
00:35:47.000 And we'd be like Sylvester Stallone's expendables, but we're the suspendables
00:35:50.000 because we all lost our jobs at our clearance.
00:35:52.000 That was the joke.
00:35:53.000 That's who's doing it right now.
00:35:54.000 You mentioned earlier the crisis and credibility and you mentioned the door kickers
00:35:57.000 and how there are people on the front lines that are actually doing the work
00:36:00.000 and theoretically they're doing the thing that you can be respectful of.
00:36:04.000 Those are the guys that raided Miralago.
00:36:05.000 Okay, those are the guys who went through your dad's house.
00:36:08.000 Those are the guys who actually went down.
00:36:09.000 It was door kickers that did that.
00:36:10.000 It was people that were on the front lines that arrested Mark Haupt,
00:36:13.000 who was a pro-life Catholic up in the Philadelphia area.
00:36:15.000 It was FBI agents who are on the front lines that are doing all of the January 6th investigations.
00:36:21.000 These are not supervisors that are running them and supervisors doing the arrests.
00:36:25.000 The MAGA grandmas that are getting arrested are getting arrested by everyday guys
00:36:28.000 who are at the same pay grade that I came out of, the GS13 and maybe even earlier.
00:36:32.000 And if that is the case, if that is who is doing all the arrests, then we are not safe with that.
00:36:36.000 We have no safety from the good people doing the right thing because they're not doing it.
00:36:41.000 And I think everybody that's had an opportunity to come forward and saw malfeasance, which are a lot of people, because I saw it and all my friends saw it, and we didn't even know each other when we worked together.
00:36:49.000 You know, I didn't know Steve Friend, even though he knew what was wrong.
00:36:53.000 I didn't know Garrett O'Boyle until it was too late and we were both on our way out the door, but he knew what was wrong.
00:36:58.000 He'd been an agent for a couple years.
00:36:59.000 Steve had been for a couple more than me.
00:37:01.000 So it was all these people 10 years or less that kind of looked at it and went, I was a cop.
00:37:05.000 I was in the military. I know right from wrong.
00:37:06.000 This is wrong. I'm not going to do it.
00:37:09.000 Everybody else is looking at it like my boss, my actual boss in New Mexico.
00:37:13.000 Came to me and he said, he said, I agree with you in principle about your stance on the vaccine.
00:37:19.000 And he knew what I had done as far as the whistleblower activity, although he claimed not to.
00:37:23.000 And he said, I agree with you in principle, but I have a mortgage and I have alimony and I've got two and a half years to retirement.
00:37:30.000 And that is the thing that we are up against.
00:37:31.000 We are up against what Dan Bongino and I call the golden handcuffs.
00:37:34.000 It's a fairly common expression.
00:37:36.000 Once you're on the back end of 10 years in a 20-year career where you get to retire, it's a good retirement.
00:37:41.000 The benefits are good. You can go and take a good job somewhere else and you can keep working because you're probably 50 to 55 years old.
00:37:47.000 So that's what we're up against.
00:37:48.000 And that is really the real problem with evil is that it doesn't masquerade with this villainous face.
00:37:56.000 Yeah, no, you're right.
00:37:58.000 Again, I always make that disclaimer because you sort of feel like you have to.
00:38:01.000 And I know so many guys that are good, but you're right.
00:38:04.000 And I've said it actually in the past.
00:38:05.000 After Mar-a-Lago, that was one where I'm like, hey, man, I keep making the disclaimer, but...
00:38:10.000 God, you're making it hard for me to give you the disclaimer.
00:38:13.000 And I get that, I'm blessed, I'm lucky, I'm not beholden to a governmental agency that's
00:38:20.000 going to fire me and I make my living elsewhere.
00:38:23.000 So I get that it ain't easy, but there is a point where you do have to say, okay, well
00:38:29.000 life isn't easy.
00:38:31.000 You think our life has been easy once we got into politics.
00:38:33.000 They're trying to throw my father in jail for 1,000 years and or the death penalty.
00:38:38.000 That's not easy. New York wants to sue us for a billion dollars and trying to get rid of our businesses that my father grew over 50 years and that I spent the last 25 years trying to build.
00:38:48.000 That's not easy either.
00:38:49.000 And again, I get that I'm in a different financial situation.
00:38:52.000 I'm blessed with that. It's why when I talk about inflation and stuff like that, I'd be like, Hey man, if I know that it sucks and feel that it sucks, it may not change the way I behave, but imagine what the average American is feeling.
00:39:04.000 But you're right. You get to a point where it's hard to give them the past because if they know better, they see it, they understand, not even that they don't agree with their superiors, but that, hey, these things are actually illegal.
00:39:19.000 If people actually knew about how far it's gone, heads would roll in Washington, D.C. We're getting to that point where it's starting to become unforgivable.
00:39:30.000 It is. And, you know, to find out that you're in your 40s and your 50s, that's what the guys were talking about here, have the seniority and the time in to be able to do something about it.
00:39:39.000 To find out that your honor is worth a maximum on the GS scale of $175,000 a year.
00:39:43.000 Like, that's good money.
00:39:45.000 That's good money in America.
00:39:46.000 You can live and you can raise a family on it, but nobody is like running around and, you know,
00:39:49.000 and driving a jet in that kind of money.
00:39:52.000 That's just, that's a job that you could get somewhere else or you may have to, or you may have to, you know,
00:39:56.000 make less, but you don't have to live in Washington DC either, so you can go somewhere else and live cheaper.
00:40:00.000 The idea that you would basically sacrifice your honor for a six figure amount of money
00:40:04.000 and a low six figure one at that.
00:40:06.000 That's really sad to me.
00:40:07.000 It's actually, I've told my friends when they come out and they get destroyed by the Bureau,
00:40:11.000 you start off angry like anybody would because they took your job, they took your livelihood.
00:40:15.000 They made my wife cry for weeks and weeks on end.
00:40:17.000 She put herself to sleep in tears.
00:40:19.000 And that's one of those things as a husband, it doesn't matter how much money you have.
00:40:21.000 That's one of those unforgivable moments where you look and you go, look what you've done to my family
00:40:25.000 and you evil bastards are gonna pay at some point.
00:40:27.000 But if you look at it in a broader context and you take a little bit of grace with it,
00:40:31.000 you think how...
00:40:33.000 How pathetic and how much pity should I have for somebody that's willing to sell out everything that they know is right and they're willing to give in for that small amount of money?
00:40:41.000 That is not enough money to sell your honor for.
00:40:43.000 I mean, even the Joe Biden, you know, millions, a couple of million dollars is what you would sell out this entire country for and everybody in it.
00:40:49.000 That seems like a real problem to me.
00:40:51.000 So the idea that you do it for $175,000 or $150,000, it's just truly sad.
00:40:56.000 It's worthy of pity, it turns out.
00:40:57.000 So how did you get there, right?
00:41:00.000 Because you're right. Again, if you're capable enough, and again, I know guys in the FBI, I know obviously a lot of guys from the Secret Service.
00:41:08.000 These guys are college educated, often with master's degrees and stuff like that.
00:41:12.000 You're right. With that level of education, with the credentials that it would take to be able to get to that level, you're right.
00:41:20.000 It's not an irreplaceable job.
00:41:23.000 So then you're just talking about sort of apathy or perhaps laziness of even, you know, trying to do something else.
00:41:29.000 You know, so how do you get more people to sort of figure that out?
00:41:33.000 And again, it sort of goes with everything the Democrats are trying to, you know, they want you dependent, right?
00:41:37.000 It's why the border's open.
00:41:38.000 They need people who will be dependent on them who require their government assistance because if they're independent, you know, all of a sudden, you know, the bill of goods they're selling really isn't that good at all.
00:41:49.000 You know, how do you get more people to do that?
00:41:51.000 I mean, obviously, I think These days, probably the newer classes, the guys that are in for three, four, five years, probably not that appealing.
00:41:59.000 Because I imagine, you know, a lot more sort of DEI, woke nonsense being hired in there.
00:42:05.000 A lot less guys that are people that could even become door kickers, even if you train them well, right?
00:42:10.000 You know... Can you lean on the guys that are closer to retirement where they do retire and say, oh, by the way, here's the list of what's going on for the last five years where they've locked in their retirement, they're out, and they can start saying something about it because you'd think that'd be easy.
00:42:25.000 Or after 20 years, are they just sort of complicit in their company men and the company can be doing a lot of wrong and they're just going to let it go?
00:42:34.000 I think the latter is a big chunk of it, unfortunately.
00:42:36.000 I think it's just human nature that if you came up from 25 or 28 years old and the only job you knew for the last two decades was this thing, and the biggest sin in the Bureau is not doing the wrong thing.
00:42:46.000 It's embarrassing the Bureau, which is what my big sin was.
00:42:48.000 I embarrassed the Bureau by going public with some of the dirty laundry.
00:42:51.000 So if you do that, you're excommunicado.
00:42:54.000 That's what they do to you. They want to destroy you.
00:42:56.000 Now there are guys who have retired who have dirt on what went on in the FBI.
00:43:00.000 We know for a fact that people that were working in the Washington field office knew that they
00:43:04.000 were removed from their jobs on the election fraud task force.
00:43:07.000 They were specifically removed.
00:43:08.000 Why?
00:43:09.000 Because they had multiple kids and were likely conservative and therefore by proxy assumed
00:43:13.000 to be Trump voters.
00:43:14.000 If that is the case and they're still scared after being retired, after getting a pension,
00:43:19.000 which by the way doesn't come from the FBI, it comes from the Office of Personnel Management.
00:43:22.000 OPM pays your pension. If you're still scared the Bureau's going to come and get you, if that boogeyman still lives in your closet even after you lived outside of it and you turned on the lights, then I don't know how to fix you.
00:43:32.000 And I also, like I said, I pity you, but you're kind of looking at it...
00:43:37.000 The answer has to push like this.
00:43:39.000 What sort of country do you want to retire into and spend that pension in?
00:43:42.000 Do you want to spend it while your kids are locked up and are facing tyranny and that we've done the things that we've done in the last two years?
00:43:49.000 If you consider what has happened to your family, and I say that very – it's a strange moment to you and even be speaking to me, but here I am looking at it from the outside.
00:43:57.000 And I think how far the goalposts have moved on what they have done to your family specifically
00:44:02.000 and what they have done to every president's family before you that's never happened.
00:44:05.000 We are setting new and unprecedented lows for the judicial system, like basically on a weekly basis.
00:44:12.000 And for that to happen and it to be like the normalcy of it and the reason is orange man bad,
00:44:17.000 which is a nauseating, stupid phrase that we use over and over again, because there's no way to explain
00:44:22.000 how dumb it is, what we're dealing with.
00:44:24.000 It is the dumbest, most knee jerk paranoia.
00:44:28.000 You mentioned it in the opening, but you talked about how, you know,
00:44:30.000 they said he was never gonna leave the White House.
00:44:32.000 You know how I know he was going to leave? Because he did, because we already saw it happen, and it didn't happen that way.
00:44:35.000 So everything you say after the fact is irrelevant.
00:44:38.000 That's how facts work.
00:44:39.000 No, but he told someone who told someone who told someone 50 degrees telephone game, you know, that he was never going to leave.
00:44:44.000 It's like, so does, you know, the rumor and innuendo, and again, I know that rumor and innuendo is fact if it goes against Trump, but like, does that actually...
00:44:54.000 Dispel actual actions.
00:44:56.000 Like, I mean, it seems like it wouldn't.
00:44:58.000 It seems, you know, I did a whole thing, you know, just the weekend talking about, you know, in America, you are, especially if you're a conservative, right, you are guilty until proven innocent.
00:45:08.000 And that, the basic tenets of our republic are being thrown out the window and our constitution, frankly, you know, to satisfy that gain because the reality doesn't actually matter.
00:45:18.000 It's whatever the narrative is, even if reality dispels that and proves it incorrect.
00:45:25.000 I mean, we used to deal cases like this, threat cases, where you would be able to go dispositively and say,
00:45:29.000 this is nonsense, I don't have to worry about it.
00:45:32.000 Here's how I know.
00:45:33.000 Fill in the blank, subject A said he was gonna go shoot up a school on November 14th.
00:45:37.000 I look at my watch, oh, it's December 4th, that is after November 14th,
00:45:42.000 and he didn't shoot up that school.
00:45:44.000 I just now got the lead.
00:45:45.000 I probably can be pretty assured that he is not going to shoot up a school on November 14th.
00:45:50.000 Now, I'll go interview the guy, and I'll go talk to him, but the assumption is that he's not going to do the thing he said because he didn't do the thing he said on the day that he said he would do it.
00:45:58.000 Well, that doesn't even matter anymore, Kyle.
00:46:00.000 I mean, they did that to me. They subpoenaed my emails for Russia, Russia, Russia, and they changed the date.
00:46:06.000 I assume that's Adam Schiff or someone else, but that was the House Intelligence Committee.
00:46:10.000 I mean, the Intelligence Committee, probably the highest level in the House in terms of access and classification in this.
00:46:19.000 And if you take a four and you put a one in front of it, You take that date and you turn it from the 4th into the 10th.
00:46:26.000 So it seems... Or you get rid of the 1.
00:46:28.000 You know, so they can take the 14th and make it the 4th.
00:46:30.000 So all of a sudden, it looks like you had something before an incident.
00:46:35.000 Let's say it happened on the 8th.
00:46:36.000 And that's what happened with me.
00:46:38.000 They said, well, you had the WikiLeaks email...
00:46:40.000 Six days before, four days before they happen.
00:46:43.000 But no, it's because they deleted the one in the email.
00:46:45.000 We're like, well, what are you talking about?
00:46:46.000 Here's the email. They conveniently delete that.
00:46:49.000 They leak that to their friendly sources at CNN and MSDNC. They do it selectively on a Friday night.
00:46:55.000 They call you at 1139 with comment, and their deadline's 1142.
00:47:01.000 So they know you're going to be sleeping.
00:47:03.000 They run with it all weekend.
00:47:05.000 The walls are closing in.
00:47:07.000 We've got them now.
00:47:08.000 You know, it turns out to be bullshit and you get a retraction.
00:47:11.000 By the way, you don't even get a retraction.
00:47:13.000 Three of the times the walls were closing in on me, I mean, if you'd Google it, the story's still up as though it actually happened, even though it's been proven not to have.
00:47:21.000 Like, you know, factually, because it doesn't matter anymore.
00:47:25.000 Yeah, the upside to all of this, which is a downside for our country, it's a downside for our children, it's a downside for the world at large, but the upside is that a lot of people had a wake-up moment when whatever went on in the mainstream media, and I think all this was designed to get your dad out of office, it seemed like, as somebody who was living in Washington, D.C. at the time, sort of under duress.
00:47:44.000 But as I'm sitting there, you see that they are doing all this concerted effort and people
00:47:48.000 were going like, that's actually impossible for you to even know that you're running a
00:47:52.000 death counter on CNN on how many people have died from COVID.
00:47:56.000 And we don't even have stats from two years ago.
00:47:57.000 Like, how in the hell do you know what if you get hit by a bus, you also died of COVID.
00:48:00.000 I mean, you know, if you had a minor cold and got hit by a bus, that was a COVID death
00:48:04.000 because, you know, the hospitals were able to grift it and everyone was making money.
00:48:07.000 And again, as whatever it takes to make the death toll higher.
00:48:10.000 I mean, when you look at sort of the death count, I'm not saying it wasn't real for some
00:48:14.000 people, certainly with those with preexisting conditions, but that didn't stop us from shutting
00:48:18.000 down the lives of our children in school and all these people that we knew statistically
00:48:22.000 were almost, almost not even remotely susceptible to these things.
00:48:26.000 That didn't matter because Orange Man Bed and anything we could do to weaponize against him, we're going to do.
00:48:32.000 It didn't matter if it was true.
00:48:34.000 Of course the Wuhan virus leaked from the Wuhan lab that studied the exact virus in question.
00:48:42.000 And yet... If you were a person who was a doctor, if you were a virologist on television and you said that, you lost all your government funding, you were thrown out of tenure, you lost your job, similar to what they would do to you.
00:48:54.000 But, like, of course it was.
00:48:56.000 Like, when was that not the most plausible answer?
00:48:59.000 And it doesn't matter because we live in clown world.
00:49:02.000 And the intelligence community knew it right up front.
00:49:03.000 They knew it right away. They knew it right at the time of because that's what they do.
00:49:06.000 That's their job. If people don't understand what the intel community is and where its power come from, the pharmaceuticals and the banking industry, they get power because they have money and they can move money around and that causes things to happen.
00:49:18.000 The Intel community has information, which may be more valuable than money,
00:49:22.000 and it can do a lot of things with it by either keeping it or releasing it and so on.
00:49:26.000 But its entire stock and trade, the only value that it provides to the federal government is,
00:49:30.000 you give us money and capabilities and resources, and we give you intelligence,
00:49:34.000 which is going to be vetted against certain scale, and we're going to tell you whether it's
00:49:38.000 probable or improbable or highly unlikely or very likely that things happen.
00:49:43.000 So they give you an assessment along with some Intel, and you can do a lot of things with it.
00:49:46.000 And I know people in the White House knew this as well, and you can only say so much because
00:49:50.000 it's classified, and some of the things you want to protect, like your sources that may be in China
00:49:54.000 and so on, so be it. But at the end of the day, the Intel community was basically allowing,
00:49:59.000 and particularly the FBI, they were pushing down things on us when they knew that they
00:50:02.000 were factually inaccurate, and then they went and played along with Joe Biden's regime,
00:50:05.000 which was the worst thing for me. It wasn't that I got stabbed in the back by the bureau,
00:50:09.000 by people in the bureau that looked me in the eye and said, you're doing the wrong thing,
00:50:11.000 and I think you're a bad person. It was people that said, you need to get this shot because
00:50:15.000 Lee Loftus, some unelected bureaucrat, has decided that he's going to enforce something,
00:50:19.000 even though there's active litigation right now, and it is most likely going to be found to be
00:50:24.000 unconstitutional, as it eventually was. All those mandates got rolled back,
00:50:28.000 and they withdrew them like cowards.
00:50:29.000 It's not like they stuck to him and said, oh, we have courage of our conviction.
00:50:31.000 So all this stuff was being done.
00:50:33.000 The American people got to see it.
00:50:34.000 They watched them move the goalposts in real time.
00:50:36.000 And the upside for all of us, as bad as all this stuff is, is that so many people are watching the bullshit roll out right now and they just go, nope.
00:50:43.000 I'm, their readers.
00:50:45.000 By the way, I think we actually needed that, right?
00:50:47.000 saw the same thing. The Intel community, 52 former intelligence aides say that
00:50:51.000 Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation. Like, you know, you know
00:50:54.000 how I knew it wasn't disinformation? Because Hunter Biden wasn't out there
00:50:57.000 actually saying it himself. He let them do it and there was a presumption that
00:51:02.000 it was going to be accurate because they're going to do that. You know, just
00:51:04.000 like I look at, you know, hey, whatever, you know, whatever they're selling, you
00:51:08.000 know, the new speaker of the house, you know, no, I've looked at the
00:51:11.000 intelligence. So we got to fund Ukraine and get ourselves into a never ending war.
00:51:15.000 I'm like, no, dude, that intelligence is propaganda.
00:51:17.000 They're giving you what they want to get to the answer that they want.
00:51:21.000 They're perpetuating whatever it is that they need to happen.
00:51:24.000 And maybe there's some truth in some of it, something.
00:51:26.000 But if there is a corollary to what they want, and that's part of the information,
00:51:32.000 that's gonna be left out.
00:51:33.000 That's gonna be carved out of that assessment.
00:51:36.000 And so, perhaps the good thing about what we call Trump derangement syndrome,
00:51:40.000 but the insanity is that they took it too far.
00:51:44.000 It wasn't a little lies.
00:51:46.000 It wasn't little this, it wasn't, oh, well, that's not a big deal.
00:51:49.000 They wouldn't let you go to your parents' funeral.
00:51:54.000 They wouldn't let you go visit a dying child in a hospital because of nonsense.
00:52:02.000 It was all based on lies.
00:52:03.000 We know it's lies because Fauci's emails are a direct contradiction to everything he told
00:52:08.000 the American public on television.
00:52:10.000 One, when he's talking to other doctors and professionals.
00:52:12.000 Now, he tells them to shut up, you can't talk about it publicly, but it was all a lie.
00:52:16.000 We know that now.
00:52:17.000 At the time, it's harder because you don't know that.
00:52:19.000 You've got to listen to those guys. I mean, if Trump didn't initially listen to them, they would have impeached them on the spot for killing every American, even the ones that got hit by buses.
00:52:28.000 But it went so far that hopefully people now get it.
00:52:33.000 Yeah, I mean, here's the fun thing.
00:52:35.000 If people want to know how much people have gotten it, just look at the uptake on the booster shots.
00:52:38.000 It's not very high. Because people went like, well, whatever you were telling us, that turned out to be not very useful information.
00:52:44.000 And I'm going to make my, quietly, make my decision differently.
00:52:47.000 The old analogy is always the frog in a pot of boiling water.
00:52:51.000 You start it at lukewarm, you put the frog in, then you slowly turn it up until he boils to death.
00:52:54.000 But what they did is they actually went from like lukewarm and then they bumped up the degrees and it went 15 or 20 degrees in a half second.
00:53:00.000 And we all saw it and we went like, man, it's really getting hot in here.
00:53:03.000 And so then everyone started going, why is it getting hot?
00:53:04.000 Well, it looks like someone turned the fire underneath this pot here.
00:53:07.000 So we were dealing with an America that they played the hand too strong for what they had.
00:53:12.000 I think that was the case, whether it be the leftist, you know, lunatics that exist out there, whether it be the media that sort of, you know, sucks up to that sort of side of the world.
00:53:20.000 And all of those things happened at the exact moment.
00:53:22.000 The bad result was, is that for the last two years, we've watched our 401ks tumble and gas prices go up and the cost of a mortgage is very disgusting.
00:53:29.000 And my wife and I had to sell our house because I lost my job with the FBI. And so I had to sell my house.
00:53:34.000 And now I'm looking back into the real estate market and I go like, man, This doesn't look really good.
00:53:37.000 Maybe I should rent for a while, but I can't really rent as easily when you look at places that don't have a lot of rental properties and you got four kids.
00:53:43.000 So when you're looking out in the world, it's objectively worse financially than it was two years ago.
00:53:47.000 But the upside for me is, is I go, at least people are waking up.
00:53:51.000 And when I talk to strangers and they've heard of what I've talked about and they know that the FBI was investigating Catholics, but they're not Catholic.
00:53:58.000 And they know that they investigated parents at school board meetings, even if they don't know my name.
00:54:01.000 Yeah. That's kind of indicating.
00:54:03.000 I mean, there's a lot of people out there that know what's going on.
00:54:05.000 And then there's some people that will always be asleep and you'll never wake them up.
00:54:07.000 And that's okay, too. I'm not speaking to them.
00:54:09.000 I just want to have people that are listening and say, are you credible?
00:54:13.000 Is the message reasonable? Can we fix this thing?
00:54:16.000 And is it better to have people who love America and disagree about politics and how we spend our money than say that you're a bad person and you're a white supremacist because you want to do fitness and you love what the red, white and blue stand for?
00:54:27.000 Yeah, no. Again, there are people you're never going to win over because they have been so brainwashed.
00:54:32.000 I mean, you know, whether it was...
00:54:34.000 And you saw that. You saw that during COVID-19.
00:54:36.000 I mean, the amount of people that I thought were sort of, you know, freedom-loving, you know, they folded real quick and capitulated real quickly to everything and just, you know, that's a problem.
00:54:45.000 So you're not going to win everyone over.
00:54:47.000 Hopefully you educate them or their children enough.
00:54:50.000 But, you know, we're up against a lot because all of those institutions have been taken over.
00:54:54.000 I mean... Listen, you've been at the center of so much of this because, I mean, you also blew the whistle on how the FBI literally named veterans as, you know, militia violent extremists.
00:55:06.000 I mean... You're a veteran yourself.
00:55:09.000 Talk about how the FBI targeted veterans.
00:55:12.000 Because, again, you're like, oh, come on.
00:55:14.000 They targeted a couple people that were radicals at school boards.
00:55:17.000 I have a feeling it was a lot more than a couple people.
00:55:19.000 It was probably just people talking about that indoctrination.
00:55:23.000 If you don't go along with DEI, if you're a parent that doesn't want a teacher to decide that your six-year-old should get a transgender...
00:55:33.000 Let's call it, in their words, gender-affirming.
00:55:36.000 I think it's ridiculous, but whatever.
00:55:38.000 Gender-affirming surgery without parental consent.
00:55:41.000 You're literally a terrorist.
00:55:43.000 You then figure out they're doing the same thing to Catholics.
00:55:46.000 I'm not aware of too many practicing Catholics that have committed any acts of terror in the United States.
00:55:52.000 Maybe there's someone, but I imagine they weren't really practicing Catholics that the FBI I was looking at it, but talk about what they're actually doing as well, going after veterans and or grouping all veterans into a potential terrorist militia, because that seems insane to me.
00:56:10.000 It's truly insane. It's not the first time they did this, by the way.
00:56:12.000 They've done this before. This has been a move because veterans represent sort of a dangerous contingency of capabilities in the American populace.
00:56:19.000 They're, generally speaking, people who either have training or experience in going to war and going and doing the things that the U.S. government kind of claims that it's involved in, which is spreading our democratic system and defending the republic in the way that we should.
00:56:31.000 So when you take a bunch of people that love freedom, that signed a blank check to this country for freedom— And they think that that's what's important.
00:56:36.000 They also tend to know how to use guns and own them.
00:56:38.000 So here's what's really wild. And this is the progression as it went out.
00:56:41.000 I exposed the thing that goes on about the parents, the school board meetings.
00:56:45.000 Like I said, my allegation was that Merrick Garland committed perjury.
00:56:48.000 I wish that somebody would act on it.
00:56:49.000 They still can. He still committed perjury.
00:56:51.000 It's not too old. So that's one thing they could do.
00:56:53.000 I get thrown out of the office.
00:56:55.000 I get thrown out without pay Through all of December and January and February, I get to come back in on March because of the State of the Union address, and suddenly Joe Biden changed the rules.
00:57:03.000 They let me come back in for six weeks.
00:57:05.000 They give me no cases.
00:57:07.000 They transfer me to a national security squad.
00:57:09.000 They call me a threat to the country as an internal threat or an insider threat.
00:57:14.000 And then they remove my badge and my gun in April 2022.
00:57:16.000 And that's when it gets started for me.
00:57:18.000 And I'm getting to your point right here, because what happens after that is I lost my job.
00:57:22.000 I lost my income. I lost my security clearance, which was the precursor.
00:57:25.000 That's the prerequisite to be able to be an FBI agent.
00:57:28.000 So once that's out, they don't have to worry about firing me.
00:57:31.000 They literally left me on an unpaid suspension for a year, and they considered me an employee.
00:57:35.000 They said I couldn't tell people I was an FBI employee.
00:57:37.000 They said I couldn't collect a paycheck.
00:57:38.000 I had no benefits. I had no authority.
00:57:41.000 But I'm an FBI employee, so I'm subject to their rules.
00:57:43.000 So I've lost everything that matters, and I'm also told I can't do anything.
00:57:46.000 This is why many whistleblowers never go public.
00:57:48.000 They're underneath either non-disclosures or they think they might get their job back.
00:57:51.000 And luckily for me, and luckily I guess for the country in some ways, I've got a spouse that's 100% in my corner, knew right away what was going on, and she was like, okay, well, we don't have that job.
00:58:00.000 We're going to have to get another one. I said, we're going to have to sell the house.
00:58:01.000 She said, yes. When that happened, people started coming to me in the FBI and bringing me disclosures, whistleblower disclosures, including the militia violent extremist one.
00:58:09.000 So what they did is somebody who was a veteran, who fought in overseas wars, who has brothers
00:58:14.000 and sisters that have died, who goes to funerals and spends time and sends money and sends
00:58:19.000 wreaths to Arlington National Cemetery, saw that document, thought it was atrocious, knew
00:58:24.000 that it was an affront to the dignity of the people that have served this country, and
00:58:28.000 sent it to me en route to Congress.
00:58:29.000 And so I did that.
00:58:30.000 We also made it public.
00:58:31.000 It ended up in the hands of Project Veritas, got very public in that way.
00:58:35.000 And so suddenly people realize that the thing that they have that is either on their t-shirt,
00:58:39.000 like many of us have, or hanging on a flag in their gymnasium, like a, you know, Gadsden
00:58:43.000 flag or a, you know, a Don't Shred On Me or a Gonzales 1835 battle flag, or like Ted Cruz
00:58:48.000 had on his boot, which was amazing, or it's even tattooed on their body, like so many
00:58:52.000 veterans have done.
00:58:53.000 Those people are now potentially domestic violent extremists under the militia violent
00:58:57.000 extremist tag.
00:58:58.000 That was a, is a call to arms in many ways.
00:59:01.000 And then they did the same thing.
00:59:02.000 They doubled down on the stupidity.
00:59:03.000 They keep doing it.
00:59:04.000 They did the same thing by saying that certain election crimes, which was simply spreading
00:59:08.000 what they called mis- or disinformation, were in fact felonies when they are not.
00:59:12.000 So that was false.
00:59:13.000 And then suddenly we get this thing in January showing that they're targeting the Catholic Church.
00:59:18.000 And not just any Catholics, by the way, Don.
00:59:19.000 We're not talking about your average Mass goer who goes to the Novus Ordem and they're used to hearing the Mass in their own native tongue.
00:59:26.000 We're talking about people that went to Latin Mass.
00:59:27.000 These are the most conservative, the most non-bothersome people.
00:59:31.000 They wear veils. Oftentimes the women wear veils.
00:59:33.000 These are very traditional.
00:59:34.000 They're a very small group of people inside the Catholic Church.
00:59:37.000 They're the opposite of what a domestic terrorist looks like, other than they're radically conservative,
00:59:40.000 I guess.
00:59:41.000 And so now people are looking at it and going, why are you going after these Catholics?
00:59:44.000 What are you trying to accomplish?
00:59:46.000 And it's my contention, this is why I wrote the piece that I did, that they were actually
00:59:49.000 trying to pry bar their way in, not just to Catholics, and not even just to Christianity,
00:59:54.000 but to all conservatives, because the reason they said these Catholics were potentially
00:59:57.000 white supremacists and therefore terrorists was because they didn't like an LGBTQ agenda,
01:00:02.000 number one.
01:00:03.000 They thought the border should be closed, which is apparently a radical traditionalist Catholic move.
01:00:07.000 And, you know, they didn't want their kids indoctrinated with this DEI woke sort of CRT nonsense.
01:00:12.000 And they don't like abortion.
01:00:14.000 You mean basically like America 10 years ago before this stuff became so pervasive?
01:00:18.000 Like, you know, basically anything that was the foundation of this country is all of a
01:00:22.000 sudden a major problem, enough to get you on a terror watch list.
01:00:25.000 I mean, because again, you may not like that.
01:00:28.000 You may, you know, want people to be more inclusive of LGBT. I mean, that's fine.
01:00:31.000 I don't know that that's the government place to tell people that they must do this.
01:00:34.000 And I think that's the problem is that because it's become, you know, everything's so mandated, you must believe that someone who chopped their dick off seven minutes ago is a woman and they should be able to be, you know, they could have been a male weightlifter and they should be able to compete against the women and we should laud them for their bravery, you know. It's ridiculous.
01:00:53.000 Like, when do we say enough is enough?
01:00:56.000 And I guess those people have said enough is enough.
01:00:58.000 Or, you know, they didn't even do that.
01:01:00.000 They said, we're just not going to acknowledge it.
01:01:01.000 We're not going to, you know, humor this crap.
01:01:04.000 And, you know, that lands you on the list.
01:01:07.000 The scariest thing is that the federal government has a duty.
01:01:11.000 I always tell people about the oath, and that's really kind of my big push here.
01:01:15.000 It's the reason why I wear sort of a replica of the FBI's badge, but it's upside down, in the same way that many people fly the American flag upside down.
01:01:21.000 We're a country under duress.
01:01:22.000 We're an agency that we saw in the FBI that's under duress.
01:01:25.000 Most of our federal law enforcement feels the same way.
01:01:26.000 The real thing is this.
01:01:28.000 The federal government, you don't swear your allegiance to the Constitution when you do the oath of office as a member of the FBI or as a federal law enforcement officer and say, what I believe in is protecting the Article I powers of Congress, and I intend to protect the Article II powers of the executive and so on and so forth.
01:01:44.000 You're not going out there and protecting the judiciary's ability to regulate lower courts.
01:01:48.000 No. What you're saying is that I'm going to make sure that the Bill of Rights is the area where we do not tread, that we stay out of the area of free speech and free religion and free assembly and so on.
01:01:57.000 And so the real problem with this document is that the government is trying to weigh in.
01:02:01.000 They're supposed to be agnostic about religion.
01:02:03.000 It doesn't matter whether you're a radical traditional Baptist or Lutheran or Mormon or Jew or Muslim.
01:02:09.000 It's irrelevant.
01:02:10.000 The government has no say in it.
01:02:11.000 That's what our brilliance is in our constitution.
01:02:14.000 So if you can't do that and you think you're gonna weigh in on any type of religion, then you're the problem.
01:02:19.000 Now you are breaking the oath.
01:02:20.000 And that's the real issue I have with all of them.
01:02:22.000 It's like, you swear allegiance to stay out of it.
01:02:24.000 You shouldn't be enforcing most federal gun laws.
01:02:26.000 I'm uncomfortable with all of them.
01:02:27.000 I'm a total abolitionist when it comes to the ATF and now the FBI after working there.
01:02:31.000 Like, I don't think there's a solution for this place.
01:02:33.000 They have absolutely sullied the brand to the point where there is no reason to fund it.
01:02:37.000 If you're gonna do it, you've got to break off the national intelligence mission and make that go away.
01:02:41.000 And that will fundamentally change it.
01:02:42.000 But you cannot give a law enforcement agency the powers of intelligence agencies.
01:02:47.000 That's what's called a secret police.
01:02:48.000 It's always been secret police stuff.
01:02:50.000 And when you do it, then, and you make that the primary focus,
01:02:53.000 you are going to get tyranny.
01:02:54.000 And that's what we have right now.
01:02:54.000 That's what we're experiencing.
01:02:56.000 Many people have experienced it.
01:02:57.000 Your family, you know, more than anybody else in America right now.
01:03:00.000 But all these people that are sitting and dealing with the January 6th prosecutions,
01:03:03.000 they're experiencing full tyranny by a weaponized federal government.
01:03:06.000 And I don't think we need it because they shut it down in 2020.
01:03:10.000 You may not know this, but they stopped doing work during the COVID strikes.
01:03:14.000 They shut down the entire federal government.
01:03:15.000 The entire federal government was like, this is a great idea.
01:03:17.000 We can not do our job and still get paid for it.
01:03:19.000 FBI agents in Washington field office, in the center of Washington, DC,
01:03:23.000 were working one hour a week on a 50 hour a week job.
01:03:26.000 They were showing up 30 minutes on a Tuesday, 30 minutes on a Thursday,
01:03:30.000 getting paid a six figure salary to do nothing.
01:03:33.000 And you'll notice we didn't have any significant terror attacks that happened.
01:03:36.000 This all happened post, you know, March of 2020.
01:03:39.000 And they shut down for like anywhere between a year and 18 months, depending on the squad.
01:03:42.000 They didn't come to work.
01:03:44.000 Nobody noticed.
01:03:45.000 So, you know, as all of this stuff's going on, you see, you know, the corruption's being exposed.
01:03:50.000 And these are, again, not little things, right?
01:03:52.000 Spying on concerned mothers at a PTA meeting, you know, labeling them terrorists, Catholics and military veterans.
01:03:59.000 But it feels like as more and more of that's happening, they're not changing the way they're actually doing
01:04:04.000 anything.
01:04:05.000 They're actually doubling down.
01:04:06.000 I mean, you're one guy who worked there for six years, and you're, you know, at least peripherally involved,
01:04:12.000 or had witnessed three of these things.
01:04:15.000 Big ones, but like the three that we're actually talking about
01:04:18.000 because you had the guts to expose that.
01:04:20.000 How much more is going on?
01:04:22.000 I mean, are they doing anything to pull this back?
01:04:26.000 Has the exposure to this actually changed any of the mindset within the FBI? Or again, it feels more to me like they're doubling down than actually doing anything to change it, which is really scary.
01:04:39.000 No, it's exactly what you just said.
01:04:40.000 They're doubling down. And the reason why is because Congress just voted to give them their funding and they just voted to give them a new headquarters and they are not having their budget withdrawn and they are not seeing key positions defunded.
01:04:50.000 That would have been the single best thing that would have taken a strike at the so-called deep state.
01:04:54.000 I don't like deep state only because it sounds sexy and it sounds like things from the X-Files.
01:04:58.000 Yeah. Yeah, like they're doing something good.
01:05:00.000 It's like, no, no, no. They're doing something like this so they can each retire making a couple extra bucks a month working at some governmental entity that is screwing the American people with a $12,000 toilet and $400 hammers.
01:05:13.000 Yeah, I don't even know that it sounds like it's doing something good.
01:05:15.000 It sounds like it's doing something that's kind of sexy and nefarious and interesting.
01:05:19.000 It's not interesting. It's like a guy who has been working at the same job for 35 years and he sits in an office that has coffee stains on the floor from the 1980s because someone spilled a pot there and they never replaced it.
01:05:28.000 And there's, you know, black mold on one of the ceiling tiles.
01:05:31.000 But he has incredible amounts of authority and he knows that he's outlasted presidents before him and he will outlast presidents after and they can do whatever it is the hell that they want.
01:05:39.000 And so that's what the deep state is.
01:05:40.000 It's like the bench is deep.
01:05:42.000 If you lose one, you got another one.
01:05:43.000 And if you lose that one, you got another one behind it because it's an infinitely deep bench of like, you know,
01:05:48.000 Russian nesting dolls.
01:05:49.000 And the thing that needs to happen is, is that we don't see the FBI paying any penance.
01:05:54.000 They're eating a little bit of crow, but they basically just deny it and just keep carrying on.
01:05:58.000 And we have people on the Democrat side that are carrying water for them
01:06:01.000 that are straight on government sycophants.
01:06:03.000 There's nothing weirder to me than growing up.
01:06:05.000 I was born in the, at the beginning of the 1980s.
01:06:07.000 And so I got 40 plus years on this planet looking at a Democrat party now that hates free speech,
01:06:12.000 that wants to fight for the ability to censor people.
01:06:16.000 These are the people that were protesting in favor of Nazis and saying that Nazis are horrible people, and yet they have a right, like every American, to say horrible things.
01:06:23.000 You actually have a constitutional right in this country to be an a-hole.
01:06:26.000 Yeah, no, I mean, as I said in sort of the opening monologue, I mean, they're truly acting like the fascist dictators that they want to say Trump is.
01:06:34.000 I'm trying to figure it out. I'm like, wait, so you want to arrest other people for practicing their religion?
01:06:39.000 You're not allowed to speak up against police tyranny.
01:06:42.000 They're trying to, you know, jail...
01:06:44.000 They're political opposition.
01:06:46.000 They'll censor the others and or disproportionately jail them.
01:06:50.000 When I look at the sentencing I'm seeing coming out, if there ever even is sentencing, which most of it's not even pursued, from the Summer of Love 2020 BLM riots, someone gets two months in prison for doing something, but if you knock over a fence somewhere in D.C., you get 17 years.
01:07:06.000 It's not the same.
01:07:08.000 No, it's not. And here's the thing.
01:07:10.000 So interestingly enough, and this is part of the reason why my experience was so strange and unique for most people.
01:07:15.000 There's a famous photograph of a couple of FBI agents standing in front of the White House on the North Lawn the day after St.
01:07:22.000 John's Church was burned. We set up a perimeter.
01:07:24.000 We were working with Secret Service at the time, the Uniform Division guys, who I'm sure you're familiar with.
01:07:27.000 And so I'm standing there with guys on the line.
01:07:30.000 And we saw that and we saw people dropping off weapons and they were dropping off piles of rocks and they were covering them with granola bars.
01:07:36.000 These are for the protesters and all this other kind of BS. And you're like, oh man, that's crazy.
01:07:40.000 And that same year, I also spent time marching around in D.C. Like it was a green zone where Bill Barr was having us walk around where we were like we were surrounded by National Guardsmen in Washington, D.C., Very, very strange.
01:07:52.000 And then I also was in Portland and I saw that we didn't do anything there.
01:07:55.000 We had all of Antifa mapped out.
01:07:57.000 I mean, I know a bunch of Secret Service agents were hurt at the White House when they stormed those gates.
01:08:04.000 And again, that's 100% fine.
01:08:06.000 I'm trying to figure out what the difference is, but the only thing I can think of is one group had...
01:08:11.000 A D next to their name, and one group had an R next to their name, and if you have a D next to your name, you're above the law.
01:08:15.000 You're beyond reproach. You're looting a store for social justice, not because you want a free pair of Gucci sleds.
01:08:25.000 But again, they're normalizing that difference.
01:08:31.000 And again, that's scary and continues to do it.
01:08:34.000 Again, I think it's so bad that I hope people are waking up, but you're not going to get some people.
01:08:38.000 Or... We're good to go.
01:08:59.000 You're going to put someone who's totally unqualified into a job and they'll figure it out and, you know, shareholder value at a company or whatever it is or, you know, even basic operational, you know, security in a governmental job or it doesn't really matter, you know.
01:09:12.000 Hey, you're trans and you're in the Navy.
01:09:14.000 You could be an admiral too next week.
01:09:17.000 It's so gross. You know the sad thing is it's true. That's the problem. It's actually going on right you you see this
01:09:24.000 I mean how many women?
01:09:26.000 You know have been displaced as you know women of the year by literally trans dudes
01:09:33.000 Like yeah, like we're literally you know Hey, you want to talk about the patriarchy?
01:09:39.000 No one's caught on the biological male winning woman of the year and displacing all these women on the top of a podium in whatever sport they're competing in and that it seems the trans men never seem to make it to the NBA but every other record is broken daily by a trans woman who was two days ago a dude.
01:10:01.000 I don't know. It seems like the patriarchy is alive and well, and yet, you know, that would be a cardinal sin to even talk about the hypocrisy there.
01:10:09.000 Well, I want to just compliment you on your ability to keep trans men and trans women straight.
01:10:13.000 I was actually sitting there being like, which way does this one go?
01:10:17.000 Because I don't even know. I think you nailed it.
01:10:19.000 It's insane. So here's kind of the crazy thing, and I haven't shared this story with anybody publicly, but I might as well share it with you because it's a good story.
01:10:27.000 The divide in this country is so dramatic, and it's so weird.
01:10:30.000 I was actually at your dad's inauguration.
01:10:32.000 I was in an undercover role working with Secret Service on what are called hurricane teams, which walk around in the crowd and make sure people are not infringing on other people's First Amendment rights.
01:10:42.000 And so you sort of nip it in the bud right there, and you stop them from breaking things.
01:10:45.000 I actually arrested a guy who was probably in Tifa that was firing a laser at the helicopter.
01:10:48.000 There was a park police helicopter over the parade route.
01:10:51.000 So that was kind of interesting for me.
01:10:52.000 And at the end of the night, it's been a long day, and I've been on my feet, and it was a cold day, if you recall.
01:10:57.000 And, you know, it's always cold. And a violent day, all perpetrated by the left.
01:11:00.000 Full of violence.
01:11:01.000 Like I said, I got a felony arrest on the day, which never happens in the moment for FBI agents.
01:11:06.000 We all do, like, planned arrests.
01:11:07.000 This was an unplanned arrest that we got, you know, clearance to basically do what we call a probable cause on-the-spot arrest and took him into custody.
01:11:13.000 Park police transported the guy.
01:11:15.000 It was a wild...
01:11:16.000 Memorable moment. I had also only been an FBI agent for a very little time.
01:11:19.000 I went to Quantico in the summer of 2016.
01:11:21.000 This is in January of 2017.
01:11:24.000 And so here I am.
01:11:26.000 I've basically been in the field office for 40 days tops.
01:11:28.000 I'm just now assigned to it, and I'm out there doing this.
01:11:31.000 And I had this weird moment.
01:11:32.000 I'm wearing a black or a gray hoodie, dark-colored hoodie, thick Carhartt kind of thing.
01:11:37.000 It's got my radio, my body armor, and all this other kind of stuff, because I didn't know what kind of violence we were going to deal with.
01:11:40.000 And I needed to put myself in the way if it happened, because that's your job.
01:11:43.000 So I'm one of the last people on the streets as they're taking down the parade route.
01:11:46.000 I'm jogging the route back all the way to where my car was, which is over at the Washington field office.
01:11:51.000 And I was on one of the north-south streets en route to my field office, and it was me and a couple.
01:11:57.000 And I just happened to remember that they were interracial couple, but it wasn't really relevant.
01:12:00.000 I knew the white woman was there and she had like a black boyfriend or husband
01:12:03.000 and they were making out like a couple of teenage drunks and they were clearly like in their 40s or 50s.
01:12:07.000 So it was kind of embarrassing seeing them in general and they're out in the street and they're doing that
01:12:11.000 and it's me and that's the only people, it was a completely empty street.
01:12:14.000 And then the presidential motorcade rolled by and I saw it coming along and as it moves past,
01:12:19.000 this woman breaks the embrace of her, you know, whatever romantic interest
01:12:25.000 and she screams a big F-you and she flicks off the presidential motorcade
01:12:29.000 as it goes rolling past.
01:12:31.000 And at the exact same time she was doing that, I was former military, I instinctively, without thinking about it all, I snapped into the position of attention, even though I'm wearing, like, street clothes, like jeans, and a Carhartt hoodie, and I snapped to a salute, and I saluted the motorcade because that's what seemed like the thing that you would do if that goes by you.
01:12:48.000 And that was the difference in America in 2017.
01:12:50.000 It's still the difference today, that some people will instinctively just scream and yell profanities no matter who's around, no matter what they have to interrupt to do it.
01:12:58.000 And some of us still know that America's still a good place and the norms should exist.
01:13:03.000 Well, you're lucky they didn't get a picture of you doing that, right?
01:13:05.000 Because you can be like one of these, like, you know, Fed boy memes, you know, right now in the Fed's direction.
01:13:12.000 Oh, by the way, when you see those pictures of the dudes that are clearly Feds, you know, with the aviators and they're trying to look MAGA, you know, And by the way, as you see, I'm curious to see, as we see more and more video evidence that, you know, hey, they're not going to release ex-video evidence because they would expose too many other FBI agents.
01:13:30.000 I mean, the notion of the fedsurrection that this was either instigated, created, certainly egged on and or could have been prevented but wasn't because...
01:13:42.000 Actually preventing it wouldn't get them where they wanted to be.
01:13:45.000 I mean, how real is that to you?
01:13:48.000 Because, I mean, to me, it sort of feels like a no-brainer.
01:13:50.000 But as someone who's been there and, you know, has witnessed this, I mean, it seems like, you know, like Wuhan lab, that's probably the most plausible answer.
01:13:59.000 And especially a few years later now, given the lack of willingness to cooperate, given the stonewalling about very obvious things, uh...
01:14:08.000 Seems like, you know, obviously that happened and that was very real.
01:14:13.000 I think that it was less organized than we've been led to believe.
01:14:17.000 I think a lot of autonomous actors basically took it upon themselves to do something that's pretty nefarious.
01:14:21.000 So my guess was this, and this is coming from working in the Washington field office on January 6th of 2021.
01:14:26.000 I actually was able to take the day off.
01:14:28.000 That should not have been the case.
01:14:29.000 We all know that to be the case now.
01:14:31.000 I wish you would have been there because I imagine you would have heard something and seen something that...
01:14:35.000 I mean, I almost went off-duty.
01:14:37.000 I had a strong desire to do that.
01:14:38.000 I ended up taking a pistol training class and learning how to certify on instruction because I wanted to do some red dot work.
01:14:43.000 So, like, I'm a gun guy.
01:14:44.000 That's my thing. Like, that's why I loved being around, you know, federal law enforcement.
01:14:48.000 I found out that that was actually pretty rare.
01:14:50.000 I actually had someone say... By the way, very few are actually gun guys.
01:14:53.000 Exactly. So strange.
01:14:54.000 One of my buddies is like, how many guns have you bought this year?
01:14:56.000 I'm like, I don't know. I buy one every two weeks or something like that.
01:14:58.000 Yeah, you're on a list as well.
01:15:01.000 Oh, yeah. Not only, and I'll just share this because it's kind of funny.
01:15:03.000 My FFL was a home FFL in New Mexico.
01:15:06.000 He's a nice guy. Met him through my boss, of all people.
01:15:09.000 And it turned out, like, I was like, oh, I can ship guns to you and you'll receive them on my behalf and you're near my house.
01:15:13.000 How much for a transfer? He said $10.
01:15:15.000 I was like, fantastic. That's great.
01:15:17.000 I'm going to have a bunch of guns coming in.
01:15:18.000 So I would have guns come in all the time.
01:15:20.000 Now, he just happens to be a home FFL that just happens to get audited every single year by the ATF, of all things.
01:15:25.000 And so there they go. They audit him.
01:15:26.000 They go through all of his customer records, all of the 4473s filled out in the entire business that he has.
01:15:32.000 And they're like, we're only interested in one name.
01:15:34.000 Who's this Kyle Serafin character?
01:15:36.000 That's how much I was buying it from this guy.
01:15:38.000 I'm a gun guy. That's what I was into.
01:15:40.000 And I was doing gun training on January 6th of 21.
01:15:42.000 But what's interesting is what I should have been doing was been on a standby sitting over at the
01:15:45.000 park police Eagle Nest where we always would for what's called an NSSE, a National Special
01:15:51.000 Security Event. Those are declared for State of the Union, they're declared for inaugurations,
01:15:56.000 they're declared for large parades like 4th of July, they do it every year multiple times.
01:16:00.000 The Secret Service takes point and they set up a main command post for all of the federal
01:16:04.000 government to come in and filter things through. And that way you have a command post that has
01:16:08.000 access to DC Metro PD, Capitol Police, ATF, the bomb squads from the Department of Energy is there.
01:16:15.000 Everybody's got a capability, they're all in the same sort of little command post. And when they
01:16:20.000 do that, they do it all the time, then they can just scale up or scale down and all the locals
01:16:24.000 get paid, you know, a bunch of money in overtime and nobody really cares because the federal
01:16:27.000 government writes unlimited checks for that and it's not that much money. And so they do it the
01:16:31.000 right way in the right way when that happens. They chose not to do that for January 6. For me,
01:16:35.000 That is a major red flag. It's always been a red flag.
01:16:38.000 It's a big one. I mean, because you're right.
01:16:40.000 I mean, especially with my father sort of requesting the National Guard and requesting these things and then having it be denied.
01:16:47.000 I mean, this seems like yet another thing, right?
01:16:50.000 It wasn't, you know, Kash Patel's been on the show a bunch talking about those things.
01:16:53.000 No, I was in the room when we asked, and Pelosi and these guys, they wouldn't do it because, again...
01:16:58.000 Whether it was planned or not is a different story, but maybe there's the, hey, let's hope that maybe someone goes a little too far.
01:17:06.000 Now, when they're jailing people for 10 years who, I'm watching them, they're taking selfies behind the velvet rope.
01:17:13.000 99% of those people had no idea they probably weren't even supposed to be in the place by the time they got in there, and yet that didn't matter.
01:17:19.000 They got what they wanted, and this seems like yet another sort of example, another check in the box that said, hey, maybe we don't know, but we're certainly not going to do anything to prevent because allowing something negative to happen is exactly what we want to try to nip this movement in the bud.
01:17:36.000 I totally agree with that too.
01:17:38.000 I think it's really tragic.
01:17:39.000 I think that this is kind of a deep state in action and the way it works.
01:17:42.000 And when we say deep, we mean deep.
01:17:43.000 Like I said, the bench is deep.
01:17:45.000 What I think is going on there, and here's the other funny thing.
01:17:48.000 Unlike most feds that I've ever met, I read more voraciously of more current events than anybody because I was on a surveillance team.
01:17:53.000 And mostly what you're doing is sitting in a car, waiting for the radio to squawk and peeing in a bottle.
01:17:58.000 So that means you're reading a lot of news and you're watching people on the street.
01:18:01.000 That's what I did. I watched people and I read news.
01:18:03.000 So Julie Kelly's done a really great job of exposing She's been the best journalist by like a mile.
01:18:10.000 I agree. She's been on the show before.
01:18:12.000 Here's a great little grenade to toss out there to your audience.
01:18:14.000 But the FBI spends $40 million a year on sources, on source development and payments for results that are driven.
01:18:21.000 The second thing about that is that those payments are done in cash and they cannot be tracked.
01:18:25.000 And the biggest payments come to counterintelligence, Which is going to be like your Christopher Steele type characters, hence the million dollar bounty they put on the dossier.
01:18:34.000 And then the biggest ones also tend to go six figure range is going to be for counterterrorism sources, including domestic terrorism.
01:18:40.000 There are people who make a living setting up domestic terrorist organizations, setting up the FBI's ability to disrupt them and claim stats.
01:18:48.000 So that's number one.
01:18:50.000 And then the second thing is every single field office had their own parameters.
01:18:54.000 We found out after January 6th that we were following somebody who was at the Capitol, who didn't do anything violent, but for some reason they were following him.
01:19:00.000 And I don't know what, he may have been proudly affiliated or Oathkeeper.
01:19:03.000 I don't really care. We were following him around.
01:19:05.000 You're not hurting anybody's freedom by following him in an open space, but that's what we did.
01:19:09.000 And then we started following him when he drove back home.
01:19:11.000 And he lived in like, I don't know, Illinois or Ohio.
01:19:14.000 He lived somewhere not close to D.C. and was driving a very long ways.
01:19:17.000 And as we started following this guy, we followed him all the way to the western edge of West Virginia.
01:19:22.000 We did like an eight-hour follow in the middle of the night.
01:19:24.000 And at three in the morning, we got called off because I told them, one, it was getting really dangerous because we'd been awake for like 18 or 20 hours and you shouldn't be driving.
01:19:31.000 And number two, and probably the biggest thing was, they found out they had a tracker
01:19:34.000 on that guy's car the whole time, and they were having us run after him.
01:19:37.000 So we were literally chasing our tails with the Western field office trying to do one thing,
01:19:41.000 and all these different offices had sources, and they had various different people coming in
01:19:45.000 to infiltrate and push their own agendas that were all individually briefed,
01:19:49.000 but no main command post at the FBI was clearing that, and that's why they were caught
01:19:53.000 so flat-footed in the response.
01:19:54.000 But moreover, I think every single field office had an autonomous need to try to generate casework,
01:20:00.000 because that's how they get their budgets.
01:20:02.000 And so I think that is the deep state answer to it, is that everybody wanted something to happen individually,
01:20:07.000 and a bunch of individuals made it happen.
01:20:09.000 So when Chris Wray says, I don't know how many sources were in the crowd, you know, I don't know how many undercovers were there, the undercovers thing is probably a lie.
01:20:15.000 But the number of sources, he may not actually know, because they would have to go through, you know, just volumes of files.
01:20:21.000 And what we know about feds is they're lazy.
01:20:23.000 They don't want to do that. So unless there's a congressional audit that requires it, which the J6 committee didn't do.
01:20:27.000 Yeah, they would never do that.
01:20:29.000 Yeah, they would never do it.
01:20:30.000 They don't want the answers out publicly for some of that stuff.
01:20:33.000 Talk about that.
01:20:35.000 Talk about the mechanics of actually opening up an investigation like this.
01:20:39.000 What forms need to be filled out?
01:20:41.000 Who approves that? What's the chain of command?
01:20:43.000 What are the bureaucratic steps that let these abuses of power just go unchecked?
01:20:50.000 How does it get through that many people without anyone really calling it out?
01:20:56.000 So there's two types of investigations, broadly speaking, that the FBI does.
01:20:59.000 One is a criminal investigation.
01:21:00.000 That's very familiar to people. It's linear.
01:21:02.000 I'm going to just describe it this way. A linear investigation looks like this.
01:21:05.000 There's a crime. Somebody did it.
01:21:07.000 We're going to find out some evidence on how they did it, why they did it, you know, what was taken or whatever was done.
01:21:11.000 And then we're going to go take that person, arrest them, and we put them through the justice system.
01:21:14.000 They either are acquitted, they plea out, or they're convicted.
01:21:18.000 That's kind of the end of it. And there's some appeals, but that's linear.
01:21:20.000 It ends with somebody's in prison or somebody's free.
01:21:22.000 The end. But that's not what happens.
01:21:25.000 That's not what these J6 investigations really are.
01:21:27.000 They're intelligence investigations, which happen under the national security priorities.
01:21:30.000 The minute you use the words counterterrorism or counterintelligence, you start working on a circular model.
01:21:36.000 And the circular model can start anywhere, and it spins around forever, and it never has to end.
01:21:40.000 As an example, I had my first couple investigations handed to me that had been going on for eight years when I was a brand new agent.
01:21:46.000 And I'm looking at them, and I read them, and they're like, this is all bullshit.
01:21:48.000 I read them, and I knew they were bullshit after reading every file in them, and I wanted to cut them down.
01:21:52.000 All I wanted to do was go interview the guy and end it.
01:21:54.000 But they were like, no, then you won't be able to keep doing collections of information.
01:21:58.000 I'm like, well, what's the purpose of the information?
01:21:59.000 The purpose is that we get more information.
01:22:01.000 It justifies a budget. So all these things are being done that way.
01:22:04.000 When you are running intelligence operations, you are running counterterrorism.
01:22:08.000 What you do is you allege. Donald Trump Jr.
01:22:11.000 is on the threat landscape under the militia violent extremist landscape.
01:22:14.000 He really thinks that we shouldn't have laws governing suppressors.
01:22:17.000 And so that makes him an MVE. And as an MVE, I want to go and investigate him.
01:22:21.000 So they start doing that. And they look into you, and then they say, well, who's he talking to?
01:22:24.000 Let's subpoena his bank records.
01:22:26.000 Well, we can't do a subpoena. We're going to use what's called a national security letter.
01:22:29.000 That's a secret subpoena that's signed off on by an FBI person who will get all your bank records and see, well, who's he spending money with?
01:22:34.000 Where does he go? Does he shoot suppressors?
01:22:36.000 Does he rent guns when he goes to Las Vegas?
01:22:38.000 Does he do this? Does he do that?
01:22:39.000 Okay, fine. So they do all these things and they dig on you.
01:22:41.000 Then they've got a whole list of other people.
01:22:42.000 Then they spin circles on them.
01:22:44.000 And they spin circles on them.
01:22:45.000 And so on and so forth. And now we have a whirlpool of circles.
01:22:48.000 And some of those people may involve themselves in some criminal activity, even peripherally.
01:22:52.000 Once we know that those exist using all these national security tools, I can go make a linear investigation start.
01:22:57.000 It's a thing that's called parallel construction.
01:22:59.000 So what I do is I go, I know that in your safe is an unlicensed machine gun.
01:23:03.000 And I know that because I've been snooping into your text messages and I've been doing this and I've been doing that.
01:23:06.000 I found them out through all these illicit means that are only for intelligence purposes, not for criminal.
01:23:12.000 But because I know they're there, I can write that search warrant.
01:23:15.000 And when I go find it, I'm not going to embarrass the judge because it's going to be there.
01:23:18.000 So even if my PC is weak, I'm the FBI. I'm going to get a lot of credibility.
01:23:22.000 The judge may not even read my probable cause statement and my affidavit.
01:23:25.000 I've seen affidavits that were signed off on that had factual lies that were not accurate.
01:23:29.000 There was one in Tampa where they were talking about a so-called jihadi, and they claimed that he was a felon who could not own guns because he had been convicted of We're good to go.
01:23:52.000 So things like that will make it into an affidavit, and the judge will still sign it because it's the FBI. That's how you start getting all these linear J6 stuff, but they're all starting from who do they know, who are they talking to, so on and so forth.
01:24:03.000 It's this threat landscape, which is very nebulous, and it's what police states do.
01:24:07.000 They pick a victim, and then they go find what crime they did.
01:24:11.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, I think this stuff is so important for people to understand.
01:24:15.000 It's why I always say, guys, like, like, share, subscribe, make sure that people see this.
01:24:19.000 Because again, I don't think anyone, even me, I mean, I sort of figure I'm on every list, right?
01:24:25.000 So like, I've been investigated more than any probably human being that's, you know, that certainly didn't do anything in my life.
01:24:32.000 So I sort of conduct myself in a way that You know, I assume they're just reading my text message.
01:24:38.000 I'd love not to. I mean, I think we live in an America.
01:24:40.000 I've been proven innocent of all the things they accused me of, but that doesn't probably matter to them.
01:24:44.000 They don't give a crap. And if, you know, if I wrote something sarcastic to a friend, that would be used against me in a court of law, and I wouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt, you know, even if it was sort of Occam's razor, where it was obvious what I meant, and it was obviously sarcastic.
01:24:59.000 It wouldn't matter. It would be taken literally, and you wouldn't get the benefit of the doubt.
01:25:03.000 Yeah, no sense of humor with that. Is it that easy to spy on Americans?
01:25:09.000 Can an FBI agent with those basic little things be reading your text messages?
01:25:16.000 Are there actual safe ways to communicate digitally in this digital age?
01:25:22.000 I sort of assume not, but are there doing it through a WhatsApp or a Signal or one of the apps out there?
01:25:29.000 Is it safer than...
01:25:30.000 Just pure text message?
01:25:32.000 Because you've seen, hey, the banks were really willing to roll over real quickly to give anyone who perhaps purchased a firearm.
01:25:40.000 You see the credit card companies were willing to do that and or not do even processing for an FFL, as you talked about.
01:25:46.000 But even the individuals, you saw the banks very quickly handing over records for people who...
01:25:52.000 Literally had charges in the proximity of D.C. Who knows if they were even there for it or not, but we'll give the FBI all of that information.
01:26:01.000 How much more of a surveillance state do we actually live in?
01:26:05.000 How much does the average American have to assume that they're being watched just because of the phraseology
01:26:14.000 or the nomenclature that they use when they talk?
01:26:19.000 I mean, obviously with me, there's a lot of gun talk because this is what I do
01:26:22.000 and I have a lot of friends in that world and we communicate back and forth.
01:26:26.000 Again, I'm on the list for a thousand other reasons, but is everyone that even remotely
01:26:32.000 has some of these things being watched?
01:26:35.000 So the two part answer, number one.
01:26:37.000 Sorry, that was a long one, but I'm like, oh my God, even my eyes are open and I'm no longer naive to the bullshit that's going on, but I feel like it's an important one.
01:26:47.000 Two parts. It's real straightforward.
01:26:49.000 Number one, assume that you are, and so therefore take responsibility for your own data, for your own information.
01:26:53.000 Obscure it as necessary. I use Signal on a regular basis.
01:26:56.000 There's some other things you can use.
01:26:58.000 Does it matter, though? Meaning I assume, like, you know, hey, if the Chinese can hack the Pentagon, they're probably listening to that.
01:27:03.000 I'm probably, in many cases at this stage, I'm probably less afraid of what the Chinese are going to do to me than what my own government will.
01:27:09.000 Who is that? You know, which says a lot about my faith in our government these days, but I imagine a lot of people feel that.
01:27:17.000 But, you know, there's no question they're also spying on America.
01:27:19.000 You know, the reality is it's still tech, right?
01:27:22.000 If I can download an app on the Apple Store, you know, it may be more secure, but how secure can it actually be relative to the systems that are in place?
01:27:30.000 You know, when... When major governmental entities are getting hacked and or doing the hacking, I assume we're doing some of that as well, hopefully, to our enemies.
01:27:38.000 It seems we're more focused on our citizens than our enemies.
01:27:42.000 Yes, we are. But again, I've got to say, I would have to assume there's still limitations of how secure you could ever be in a digital age.
01:27:50.000 Yeah, the problem is this. So you can secure data in motion.
01:27:52.000 So a signal, a wicker me, you know, even iMessage is encrypted and probably is difficult to intercept and route.
01:27:58.000 The problem is, is that, you know, we talk about the story of like Tucker Carlson having his device hacked and they're like, oh, they compromised signal.
01:28:03.000 They didn't compromise signal. They compromised one of the end results because each individual device can actually decrypt the message.
01:28:09.000 And that's what you do. So if you can attack the device where the message comes in unencrypted, then that's where you get screwed.
01:28:14.000 So yeah, obviously anything can be, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't obscure it.
01:28:17.000 You should take all the normal efforts you can, make it harder.
01:28:19.000 Feds are lazy, that's number one.
01:28:21.000 And then number two is that you still have a responsibility, I think as an American,
01:28:24.000 to continue to exercise your rights, free speech and so on.
01:28:27.000 You can't just give up simply because you're afraid you might be on a watch list.
01:28:29.000 In fact, I would say that internalized censorship, just like being a trans dude,
01:28:34.000 a guy with a dong going out there and power lifting outside of women,
01:28:37.000 like that's internalized misogyny, if it's ever been, right?
01:28:40.000 And if you internalize the censorship mechanism, then you've now internalized what the evil mechanisms of the government want you to do, and you're now self-censoring.
01:28:48.000 That's still censorship. It's just way worse because you're allowing it.
01:28:51.000 So that's the thing I think a lot of FBI agents are actually involved in for themselves.
01:28:54.000 They're like, oh, paycheck, pension, so on and so forth.
01:28:56.000 I got to keep myself kind of locked into this.
01:28:58.000 They're the ones that are self-censoring.
01:29:00.000 That's what we should stop. And Americans as a whole need to push back and say, this is not a right that the government has.
01:29:06.000 They have no right to infringe on it.
01:29:07.000 And if that means some of us go to jail, look, that's what the civil rights movement was all about.
01:29:11.000 A lot of people knew something was wrong and they paid for it.
01:29:13.000 A lot of people went to jail over it.
01:29:14.000 And so the idea of being uncomfortable should be something that conservatives now are starting to embrace in a big, big way.
01:29:22.000 That's why, again, physical fitness, these things.
01:29:28.000 That's why it's white supremacy, right?
01:29:30.000 If you're capable beyond...
01:29:31.000 If you're not dependent on...
01:29:34.000 All of a sudden, hey, maybe you will put up a little more resistance to watching your freedoms literally be taken away from you.
01:29:43.000 Exactly. Why exactly, though, is there such resistance from FBI leadership to make those basic needed reforms to stop destroying their own credibility?
01:29:52.000 You would think... It's sort of like I'm watching the Ivy League as someone who attended an Ivy League university.
01:29:58.000 It's like... I no longer...
01:30:00.000 I wouldn't think about hiring Ivy League students.
01:30:03.000 That used to be the cream of the crop.
01:30:04.000 They were the smartest and the this.
01:30:06.000 But... With the drama that comes with it, with sort of the forced capitulation, the, hey, you can get ahead so long as you regurgitate whatever they think and you can't think for yourself.
01:30:19.000 What's going on there?
01:30:21.000 Do they just hate Donald Trump that much?
01:30:22.000 Do they hate his supporters that much?
01:30:25.000 Is it just about power?
01:30:26.000 What's the incentive in not trying to at least fix some of that, or even if it's just fixing the perception of it?
01:30:34.000 I think that it's a captured culture.
01:30:36.000 The management culture is completely captured.
01:30:38.000 The people that self-select that raise their hand to be a manager within the FBI, and I hate calling them leaders because they're not leaders.
01:30:44.000 There's no leadership capability that I see.
01:30:45.000 A leader says, there's a mistake.
01:30:48.000 I'm going to own it. I'm going to eat this burger by myself, and I'm going to own it and take the responsibility, and everybody else is going to do better.
01:30:54.000 And this is my fault because I allowed it to happen.
01:30:56.000 That's not what happens. I've seen leadership.
01:30:58.000 I've seen real leadership in the military.
01:30:59.000 I've seen real leadership in civic life.
01:31:01.000 People take that on all the time.
01:31:03.000 That's not what goes on, and that's not what's rewarded.
01:31:05.000 My first supervisor had exactly two and a half years of casework experience in the Oklahoma City field office.
01:31:11.000 She went to headquarters for over six years.
01:31:14.000 She was a through-and-through headquarter person that had basically lived in the D.C. swamp, was fully indoctrinated.
01:31:19.000 She was also sort of a useless woman, and I'll say that now.
01:31:21.000 She's continued to advance in her career.
01:31:23.000 She's what we call a blue flamer.
01:31:25.000 So that's somebody with an afterburner behind them, the blue flame, and they rock it up to the top.
01:31:29.000 She would talk about having the greatest cases.
01:31:31.000 Like if you're an agent for two years, you don't have the greatest cases of anything, not ever.
01:31:35.000 It never happened that you had the greatest cases, but she would say it.
01:31:37.000 And they basically would just continue to talk about how they were the reason
01:31:43.000 that the FBI was great, and everyone around them would reaffirm that,
01:31:45.000 and they only hire people that believe that and toe that party line.
01:31:48.000 So we have this captured culture at the top, and they're all garbage.
01:31:51.000 And there may be one or two that squeak in that are decent, but they better mouth the party line as well or they're not
01:31:55.000 going to get up any higher than GS 15.
01:31:57.000 My buddy Phil likes to say that a GS-15 in the FBI is someone who's never said no to a bad idea.
01:32:02.000 That's your assistant special agent in charge.
01:32:04.000 That's your unit chief level.
01:32:05.000 That's the doorway into the SES. The senior executive service, which is the true deep state, the true administrative state.
01:32:11.000 If you don't get those people out, and we're not going to, you literally have to tear FBI management down to the GS-14, the frontline supervisor ranks, because the people who put their hand up and say, yes, I want to be a supervisor, they've already told me that they are a bad individual.
01:32:23.000 They have bad actions in mind, and they're willing to capitulate.
01:32:26.000 Yeah, I hear that from so many friends in the military.
01:32:28.000 It's sort of the same thing.
01:32:29.000 The guys on SEAL team, they're 99% conservative, but they're never going to become generals either because they will say no.
01:32:37.000 They will call out the bad ideas.
01:32:39.000 My only experience with that is from having a Secret Service detail for four years while I was in there.
01:32:45.000 I'm a business guy. I understand how things work.
01:32:47.000 Hey, guys, do you ever think about doing it this way?
01:32:49.000 It seems like it would be a lot better, cheaper, faster, easier, less bureaucrat, less paperwork.
01:32:54.000 And they're like... Yeah, we know.
01:32:56.000 And there were a couple of guys that would actually try to do something about that.
01:32:59.000 The second they actually were like, dude, he's 100% right.
01:33:02.000 This is insane. There were a couple of things with vehicles and leasing and the procurement process.
01:33:06.000 And I was like, guys, I can literally get you a better deal.
01:33:10.000 No, no, no, because this is the way we do it.
01:33:12.000 And we can't take the better. I'm like, you can't take the better.
01:33:14.000 That's the way we've always done it. You're going from the same place.
01:33:17.000 It's like, this makes no sense.
01:33:19.000 Why would you do it? No, because that's the way we do it.
01:33:20.000 And there were guys that were like, oh, dude, done.
01:33:23.000 You're 100% right. They'd say, hey, I spoke to someone about it.
01:33:26.000 A week later, they'd be off the detail.
01:33:28.000 And some of these guys are lifelong friends with me.
01:33:30.000 These are guys that are awesome dudes trying to do well, but you saw certain stuff come from the top.
01:33:37.000 It didn't have to make sense.
01:33:39.000 It didn't have to be financially...
01:33:41.000 It was ridiculous.
01:33:45.000 And like, again, as a thinking guy, I sit there, I look at these things, and, you know, I come from enough of a world that is like, why don't you do it this way?
01:33:52.000 It's like, oh, wow, that's actually great.
01:33:54.000 We never thought of that. Or we've thought about it a thousand times.
01:33:57.000 you're 100% right and it doesn't matter.
01:33:59.000 Yeah, that's how you lose your job.
01:34:00.000 The tall blade of grass gets cut.
01:34:01.000 That's what happens.
01:34:02.000 So anybody who has a great idea, the really bad ideas, we call them the good idea fairies.
01:34:06.000 They come in from like the people that don't know what's going on
01:34:08.000 and they come up with terrible ideas.
01:34:09.000 They get promoted.
01:34:10.000 Bad ideas always go higher.
01:34:12.000 I just interviewed a guy who was a former NYPD officer.
01:34:14.000 He's talking about how they've got like a robot down on the subway platforms now that cost a million dollars
01:34:19.000 and it was supposed to replace an officer, but now they have to have two officers guard the robot
01:34:22.000 so someone doesn't throw Johnny Five onto the tracks.
01:34:24.000 They'll steal the robot or beat it up or vandalize it.
01:34:26.000 But yeah, no, you can't make it up, right?
01:34:28.000 So that's classic government.
01:34:29.000 It's like, hey, we're going to replace this person with a robot.
01:34:31.000 Then we're going to take two people and we're going to guard the robot.
01:34:33.000 And you're like, oh, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
01:34:35.000 That's government for you.
01:34:36.000 The good ideas don't work.
01:34:38.000 And that's how you get removed from your posts.
01:34:40.000 That's how you speak too much.
01:34:41.000 You get destroyed. I mean, there's a million things that are wrong with just the FBI's culture in and of itself, but that's government-wide.
01:34:47.000 I mean, when you take people that are not financially incentivized to do things efficiently and intelligently in the American way because they do things in the government way, and the government way is overwhelmingly awful.
01:34:56.000 It's like the worst solution to any problem except when it's the only solution, but it's still not very good.
01:35:01.000 That's really the only way to look at government.
01:35:03.000 And the bigger it is, the more federal it is, the worse it is.
01:35:06.000 The closer it is to local, at least those people have to come and look at you in the eyeballs when you're grocery shopping.
01:35:11.000 Or you're at the library with your kids and they look over and you go, hey, you know how you didn't put up that stoplight and we can never get out of our street?
01:35:16.000 Like, that's your fault. And they have to look at you.
01:35:18.000 They don't do that in the federal government.
01:35:19.000 Like, our federal government doesn't, especially the bureaucrats, they don't care.
01:35:22.000 They don't know. Yeah, no, it was like the Secretary of Education last week.
01:35:25.000 He botched the Reagan quote.
01:35:26.000 You know, the nine most scary words in the English language are, you know, I'm here from the government.
01:35:30.000 I'm here to help. He goes, to quote Ronald Reagan, I'm here from the government.
01:35:34.000 I'm here to help. I'm like, no, dude.
01:35:35.000 Yeah. How did you miss the entire 80s?
01:35:38.000 That's our Secretary of Education. It's clown world.
01:35:42.000 I guess one of the few things you haven't been able to witness, perhaps, was just the evidence that we keep seeing more and more of about the Biden family and the corrupt foreign dealings.
01:35:55.000 Do you see any urgency from federal law enforcement on this issue?
01:35:59.000 I know I talk about it on the show all the time.
01:36:01.000 I know it's a big deal for my people and probably half the country.
01:36:04.000 And yet... Again, I understand there's a process in the House, and there's a difference.
01:36:09.000 You have to understand, hey, what I'd love and what's the reality playing within D.C. are two different things, but how is this one viewed within the walls of the FBI, if you have any sort of clarity into that?
01:36:22.000 There's a mixed bag. I mean, there are people that are trying to do the right thing.
01:36:25.000 I've got a group of whistleblowers that I have in touch with, and they're in every division.
01:36:28.000 They're a small number. They're a tiny minority.
01:36:31.000 But they're out there trying to do the right thing.
01:36:32.000 They're trying to go and push cases against China.
01:36:34.000 They're trying to push things against corruption.
01:36:36.000 And they get pushed back. We've had some really credible allegations about Biden crime family that have never made the light of day.
01:36:41.000 And I brought them to Congress and said, look, the evidence supposedly exists.
01:36:44.000 Sources have actually been recording members of the Biden family involved in absolute corruption.
01:36:49.000 And it's like, Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll say this.
01:37:16.000 As much as I dislike Mitch McConnell and the decisions he's made, at least he stopped that guy from being a Supreme Court justice because that would have been a disaster.
01:37:22.000 Nobody is all good and nobody is all bad.
01:37:24.000 And even some of the bad guys in our favorite movies end up doing the, you know, one last moment that actually ends up helping or pushes something across the finish line.
01:37:30.000 So we don't know what God's plan is.
01:37:32.000 Someone keeps telling me God draws straight with crooked lines.
01:37:35.000 So, you know, that's a crooked line for sure that we ended up with him as an AG and he's doing less damage than he could have done on the Supreme Court.
01:37:41.000 No doubt about it. So that's great.
01:37:43.000 But all these things are like when these people are out there running it, I don't see it because...
01:37:48.000 If Maine Justice is going to quash this stuff, and I've talked to Cash a number of times about it as well.
01:37:52.000 I'm sure you guys have talked off the record.
01:37:53.000 If they're going to go and quash these investigations, it doesn't matter how good the work is being done on the federal investigation side.
01:37:59.000 And Congress has no authority to do anything on the enforcement end.
01:38:02.000 It's going to fall under the executive.
01:38:03.000 So it has to be there in pocket so that when they hand it over to maybe a favorable administration, somebody that nominally cares about the Constitution, Democrat or Republican, theoretically it could happen.
01:38:14.000 But I just don't see any indication that it's going to happen.
01:38:16.000 And there's no movement like...
01:38:18.000 Here's the thing. Let's say, you know, Comer does everything he needs to do and gets all the public evidence and the Democrats deny it.
01:38:23.000 We all say, oh, my God, how can that be?
01:38:25.000 It may not matter. I mean, they can have all the evidence in the world.
01:38:28.000 I mean, you still have you see Republicans saying, oh, well, there's no evidence.
01:38:31.000 I'm like, no evidence like you guys didn't stop.
01:38:33.000 All of this from going on.
01:38:35.000 I guess that's the question. Do you think Republicans in Congress and the House in general are being aggressive enough with leadership in the FBI and the DOJ? There are things that perhaps are out of their hand, but it doesn't stop them from speaking about it.
01:38:50.000 They may not be able to pursue it.
01:38:52.000 They may not be able to force it, but they control the power of the purse.
01:38:56.000 They could stop funding certain things within the FBI or maybe the thing entirely.
01:39:00.000 Are they doing enough?
01:39:02.000 Because I think Americans are sort of tired of the strongly worded letters.
01:39:07.000 I'm going to write, or sort of the, let's call it rhino Republican equivalent of a mean
01:39:12.000 tweet.
01:39:13.000 It's like, it's a mean tweet and they're going to get to business, but nothing actually happens.
01:39:18.000 What about subpoena?
01:39:20.000 Are they doing anything there?
01:39:21.000 And I think Comer's doing a reasonably good job.
01:39:24.000 I just feel like the other side's running out the clock.
01:39:27.000 They're hoping to get to an election.
01:39:29.000 They'll do what they can to weaponize that.
01:39:31.000 If you lose control of the House, all of this stuff will go away, even if the evidence is as clear as day.
01:39:35.000 And it may anyway. 100% agree.
01:39:38.000 And I don't think they're doing enough.
01:39:39.000 I don't know if they can do more, but they could sure talk more.
01:39:42.000 They could say something a little bit more aggressive.
01:39:44.000 How about putting something for an up and down vote refunding my buddy Garrett O'Boyle's job?
01:39:48.000 Like the guy was basically taken off his job under a failure of FBI policy.
01:39:53.000 They lied about what they did.
01:39:54.000 They allege that he did something that he didn't do because we know who did the thing that they claimed he did.
01:39:58.000 He did absolutely nothing wrong.
01:40:00.000 He testified in front of Congress.
01:40:01.000 He brought disclosures in good faith underneath the whistleblower laws.
01:40:04.000 He's been now without a job for, I think, something like 14 months unpaid, but he's still considered an FBI employee the way that I was for a year.
01:40:11.000 Marcus Allen, same story.
01:40:13.000 You haven't heard anything from him, but he was in front of Congress.
01:40:15.000 He's also been now two years without a job.
01:40:17.000 We raised a bunch of money, so they're not going to go homeless and destitute.
01:40:20.000 But they can't even accept the money without breaking FBI policy, and then they'll get fired for it.
01:40:23.000 So how about some bills that say, refund my friend's positions, put them into a place and leave them the hell alone, let them do their damn job.
01:40:30.000 How about they be treated like every other whistleblower that came out?
01:40:34.000 They turned, you know, the guy that was offered the Ukrainian Defense Minister position, Alexander
01:40:40.000 Vindman, you know, this fat slob, they turned him into a hero.
01:40:44.000 And it turns out to be all nonsense, didn't matter.
01:40:46.000 You know, we'll weaponize him at the time and when we find out it's all nonsense and
01:40:50.000 it's all lies and he's full of crap, you know, that happens five years later.
01:40:53.000 It doesn't matter.
01:40:54.000 There's not an apology.
01:40:55.000 There's no actual accountability.
01:40:58.000 You know, we've seen it time and time again.
01:40:59.000 We've seen the FBI go after parents.
01:41:01.000 They're going after pro-life Americans.
01:41:02.000 They're going after Donald Trump.
01:41:03.000 They're going after his family.
01:41:05.000 They go after his allies.
01:41:06.000 Who are they going after next?
01:41:09.000 What should we be prepared for?
01:41:11.000 What's the next group that's going to be put in the crosshairs of not just the FBI, but maybe the DOJ? Dissenters, everybody.
01:41:20.000 That's what this threat tag that they came up with was.
01:41:23.000 It's underneath the 266 moniker, which is domestic terrorism, and it's 266 O Oscar.
01:41:28.000 It's anti-government, anti-authority violent extremists.
01:41:31.000 That's the founding fathers.
01:41:32.000 That's you. That's me believing that we have a right to own a firearm.
01:41:34.000 That's me believing that we should be able to speak out against our government.
01:41:37.000 If you believe that the T goes in the harbor, that's where I believe it goes.
01:41:41.000 I think that's where the best pay for the T is.
01:41:43.000 You throw it right in the harbor and you let them know what you think.
01:41:44.000 If you're that kind of a guy, if you've got a Betsy Ross flag on your wall like I do, Then they're the one that they want because they're gonna crush dissent.
01:41:52.000 And if you criminalize dissent in this country, you have run away from every liberal principle that every liberal could ever stand behind.
01:41:59.000 We are now in a place where we're talking about illiberal principles and censorship and hate speech are all part of that.
01:42:04.000 So the things that people like Jordan Peterson are saying, the things that even people that used to be sort of center left, the Joe Rogans of the world, the Russell Brands of the world, they just wanna be able to have dissent.
01:42:14.000 That's kind of what comedy used to be, that we would poke fun at everybody.
01:42:17.000 I mean, comedy is a crime at this point.
01:42:20.000 When you attack Trump, you can say whatever you want.
01:42:23.000 It doesn't matter. And it's not even funny anymore because it's gotten so vicious.
01:42:26.000 There's not actually humor to it.
01:42:28.000 But given the sort of amount of material that the left gives us and the things that we must buy into right away as the gospel...
01:42:36.000 It's sort of amazing because we could actually be living in the golden age of comedy if comedians weren't so afraid to actually speak up.
01:42:46.000 But it does feel like, again, the pendulum's not just swinging in the American populace sort of being woken up to it.
01:42:52.000 You're right. Joe Rogan.
01:42:54.000 You saw Dana White.
01:42:55.000 You saw Elon last week.
01:42:57.000 Fuck you. Fuck your opinion.
01:43:00.000 You're full of shit. He said it.
01:43:01.000 G-F-Y. That's it. That's all there is.
01:43:02.000 More people are getting to that point where they're saying, go fuck yourself.
01:43:08.000 So you've been attacked by the Democrats in their mouthpieces in the media.
01:43:11.000 They're accusing you of having ulterior motives.
01:43:13.000 What's your response to them?
01:43:15.000 Yeah, it's really straightforward.
01:43:17.000 And it might as well just be go fuck yourself.
01:43:19.000 That's as good as any. I think Elon Musk said it really well.
01:43:22.000 But, you know, I try to come at it from a Christian perspective on my best days.
01:43:25.000 I'm not always there. And so sometimes it's a lot more violent or angry thoughts.
01:43:28.000 But, you know, it's like you have destroyed this country for my children.
01:43:31.000 I have a three-month-old daughter now.
01:43:33.000 I had a baby that I consider a war baby because we had her while we had lost a job.
01:43:37.000 And here's what the cost was.
01:43:38.000 If anybody thinks that it was a fun or a good idea, I said I'm not going to get a shot that I'm going to be mandated to do.
01:43:43.000 I wouldn't have done it even if I thought the shot was a good idea.
01:43:46.000 Because you told me that I had to do it, and I know that if I can't stand up as a federal agent with a badge and a gun and the authorities of the FBI and stand for what it means to be an American, to say that you have some bodily autonomy, then under no circumstances is any other normal person going to be able to do it.
01:44:00.000 So that's number one. But what was the cost?
01:44:01.000 I had to sell my house. I lost my house.
01:44:03.000 My wife and I were homeless for about six months.
01:44:05.000 We stayed at my parents' house, which is very embarrassing because my parents don't have nearly the house that your parents do.
01:44:10.000 I was living in a much smaller place.
01:44:12.000 We had a three-bedroom house.
01:44:13.000 But I get it.
01:44:14.000 Mar-a-Lago's a pretty nice place, but I'd be pretty embarrassed being like, I gotta move back in.
01:44:18.000 It's not awesome at 40, right?
01:44:20.000 You just don't want to do that. That's a serious kick to the nuts for someone who thinks the way I do.
01:44:27.000 Yeah, it's a massive amount of humility.
01:44:29.000 Yeah, no, listen, I don't think I've ever told this story myself, but when I first got divorced, my dad was president of the United States, all this stuff, I literally remember my mom before she passed away.
01:44:42.000 She literally called me and she was like, hey, well, if you want, your room's still in the house.
01:44:46.000 And I was just like... It was like both one of the nicest and also like most terrible phone calls I've ever got in my life because I'm like, no, man.
01:44:55.000 Like, I just, no, I can't.
01:44:57.000 Like, I'm not moving back into, you know, mom's basement.
01:45:00.000 That ain't happening. It's brutal.
01:45:02.000 It came from a position of sweetness, but it was a kick in the dick to me.
01:45:05.000 It was like, oh, man, I can't even believe I'm having this conversation.
01:45:09.000 That's exactly what it is.
01:45:10.000 Yeah, so we moved my entire family there.
01:45:12.000 Then some in the middle of it, my wife and I end up pregnant.
01:45:14.000 If your listeners need to know how that works out, they can Google it and kind of see how the design works.
01:45:19.000 Well, these days you never know. I mean, I hear about front holes and back holes and all these other things.
01:45:23.000 So, you know, apparently you could probably get pregnant through all of them these days because, you know, otherwise you're a racist, misogynist pig.
01:45:29.000 So true. You know, due for a lynching, I guess.
01:45:34.000 Most likely, yes. So long and short, the cost is not small.
01:45:39.000 It's not small. And then at the same time, it's like, would you do it again?
01:45:42.000 Of course, 100%. I'd do it 100 times out of 100.
01:45:44.000 I might have done it more aggressively.
01:45:46.000 And the only thing that was so strange, and the only reason why it's so novel, the way this has all worked out, and there's nothing weirder than this, I'll just tell you straight up.
01:45:53.000 I decided to sell the house.
01:45:55.000 I knew that we were going to lose the job.
01:45:56.000 That was all fine. That was going to happen.
01:45:58.000 I didn't have a plan to go public.
01:46:00.000 I had a reporter reach out to me and said, my friend Dan Bongino has a microphone and a message
01:46:06.000 for you. You need to listen to his podcast, which I listened intermittently. I listened to Dan
01:46:10.000 probably a couple times a week, but not every single day always. And they said, listen to this
01:46:13.000 episode. And on the episode, he said, whoever it is that exposed this information, my microphone
01:46:18.000 is available to you. Come on my show. I will give you my Fox microphone and I will carry your story.
01:46:22.000 And I went, okay, that's the sign from God.
01:46:25.000 My wife actually just got, she just got baptized and they took my badge and my gun away like eight days later.
01:46:30.000 So that's also really powerful.
01:46:31.000 Go figure that out. And Dan is great.
01:46:33.000 And then, you know, and then Fox throws him off the air, which tells you where even the, you know.
01:46:37.000 That was the best part because I get, I literally leave the closing table selling my home.
01:46:41.000 I get on a plane. My wife goes to Arizona to go stay with my folks.
01:46:44.000 I get on a plane. I fly out to Miami, get picked up by a car.
01:46:47.000 And I end up in front of Dan Bongino for the first time we've ever met in person.
01:46:49.000 And all I said to him was this, look, I've got A lot of concerns.
01:46:53.000 And I'm scared about this because I'm putting my life in your hands in some ways.
01:46:56.000 That's what that looked like at the moment.
01:46:58.000 I mean, it was a very, very high-stress moment.
01:47:00.000 And in doing so, we showed up.
01:47:01.000 He's wearing brown shoes. I've got brown boots.
01:47:03.000 We're both wearing jeans. We're both wearing a black t-shirt.
01:47:05.000 We're like, uh, his producer, Guy, looks at me and goes, did you guys plan this?
01:47:08.000 And it's like, no, we're just like-minded.
01:47:10.000 So he put- He puts on a blazer.
01:47:12.000 We do two hours of a podcast straight through.
01:47:14.000 It ended up with like a million views on each one of them because people had never heard it.
01:47:16.000 The same day that that story went public, my friend Steve Friend, who I'd never known before, he went public with Miranda Devine.
01:47:22.000 She wrote his story up in the New York Post.
01:47:24.000 So two of these things aligned and they happened at that moment.
01:47:27.000 And it's like all of this stuff happening at the same time made it strong to the point where it's
01:47:31.000 like, there's no other path. I may have to live in my folks' house for six months. Like I said,
01:47:35.000 the kick in the dick is real. Nobody wants that. It's no fun. But we ended up renting a house. We
01:47:39.000 ended up moving. I launched this podcast. I've got people watching it. I have a pretty dedicated fan
01:47:43.000 base that want to hear what we have to say. And we hurt FBI feelings every single day to the point
01:47:48.000 where this happened. And like, this is really wild. And I don't know if I've been able to explain this
01:47:51.000 to anybody, but the people that were tasked, you know, everyone makes the joke, like my FBI agent
01:47:55.000 who watches my podcast and writes it up and puts it in the file?
01:47:58.000 I hope they're secretly liking my memes.
01:48:01.000 I'm actually weaponizing them.
01:48:04.000 You're slowly redfilling these assholes, right?
01:48:06.000 So I literally had someone that was doing that, was watching my shows in order to jam up Steve Friend for an internal investigation into him.
01:48:12.000 And when that happened, he ended up doing something that got him jammed up and he came forward
01:48:18.000 and exposed that the FBI had weaponized the process against me and Steve,
01:48:21.000 and obviously Garrett as well. George Hill was the guy that you had mentioned earlier who did
01:48:24.000 the Bank of America disclosure. He's already retired, so he's kind of out of reach. He's
01:48:28.000 like a crotchety, angry man. I don't think he'd be mad about me saying that. He said he's madder
01:48:31.000 than I am. And we're all kind of like locked in together here. And we're finding out that
01:48:35.000 the FBI agents that were actually investigating us are now getting turned against the FBI because
01:48:39.000 they had their security clearance removed over some dumb bullshit. And when that happened,
01:48:43.000 it's like you cannot make up how funny this is. They can't stop stepping on their own dick,
01:48:47.000 which is funny because you'd assume that the FBI is a pretty small dick agency,
01:48:50.000 but they obviously have short legs too. They're stepping on this thing over and over and again,
01:48:54.000 and they're falling on their own faces. It's comic justice at a tier that we could never imagine.
01:49:00.000 And I just feel like the trend that we're seeing is it's going to keep going. We're not going to
01:49:04.000 solve it through Congress, and we're not going to solve it through Republicans coming in and
01:49:08.000 We're going to solve it through ridicule and through the American public being aware so that when somebody comes and says, knock, knock, knock, hey, I'm Kyle Seraphim from the FBI, I'd like to talk to you, they tell them to go fuck yourself the way that Elon Musk just did, because that's going to be the answer that turns them around.
01:49:20.000 When their name and their letters have no more credibility to the average guy who used to think that they were a great guy and wanted to be Fox Mulder when he grew up, like I did, that's what needs to happen.
01:49:30.000 We need to, like, the X-Files is over.
01:49:32.000 We're living in a very...
01:49:33.000 We're living in idiocracy.
01:49:35.000 You're so right, Kyle.
01:49:37.000 It is difficult.
01:49:39.000 It's sort of the theme of this show.
01:49:41.000 We've got to become unafraid.
01:49:43.000 We've got to do that across all walks of life.
01:49:45.000 in who we're supporting, who we're getting our news from, you know, where we spend our money,
01:49:50.000 giving it to, you know, strong, you know, family businesses rather than woke corporate businesses.
01:49:56.000 I mean, we just have to immerse ourselves, you know, fully into that.
01:50:00.000 So, you know, I, you know, again, I've been pretty blessed in many aspects of my life,
01:50:05.000 but I think I also have a pretty good understanding of just how brutal it can be.
01:50:08.000 I know what you're going through.
01:50:09.000 I'm just glad you are doing it.
01:50:12.000 So, you know, for you, obviously you got the podcast.
01:50:14.000 I want all the people watching to go check that out.
01:50:17.000 What else are you doing in going forward to help maintain that unafraid posture, to expose this stuff, to keep it going so that people do wake up, that other people feel comfortable following your lead?
01:50:29.000 Hey, it's not the end of the world to get out of our comfort zone.
01:50:33.000 It's not the end of the world to speak up against these agencies, especially when they're corrupted, especially when they're broken, especially when When they're functioning contrary to everything that they were intended.
01:50:45.000 Well, the first thing is first, I want to say thank you for extending the welcome to be on your show and the platform here to come and share with your audience.
01:50:50.000 So I really appreciate that. We do the podcast every morning.
01:50:53.000 That's something I've started doing. It keeps me giving out of bed every morning and putting my feet on the ground and getting into the fight right away.
01:50:59.000 I started 630. I work way longer.
01:51:01.000 I've done 12 plus hours today already just doing media and things like this because that's part of the fight for me is that if I'm not doing something, I'm going to be sitting around like polishing my guns and waiting for the door to get kicked in.
01:51:10.000 I'd rather not do that. So I'd much rather go and talk.
01:51:13.000 So that's what it is. People need to basically draw a line in the sand for themselves.
01:51:16.000 They need to figure out what it is that they're willing to accept and what tyranny they will not, and then get involved in their own way.
01:51:21.000 Not everybody is being called to lose their job and move their family into their parents' house and have to go and start a podcast.
01:51:26.000 I don't think that works for everybody.
01:51:28.000 That just happened to be the way that I was set up.
01:51:30.000 But everybody needs to know. And you have a good story.
01:51:32.000 And hey, if you've been doing this for 12 hours and you've got the energy that you're carrying right now, I'm really impressed as well.
01:51:37.000 You are not what we'd call low-energy Jeb.
01:51:39.000 So I love it.
01:51:40.000 And just honestly, I follow along with the live chat and see what's going on along the way.
01:51:44.000 I mean, people are loving what you do.
01:51:46.000 I mean, that takes balls.
01:51:48.000 And that's as patriotic as it gets that you're doing what you're doing.
01:51:52.000 So Kyle, thank you so much for being here.
01:51:54.000 Guys, make sure to check out his podcast.
01:51:56.000 You can find it right here on Rumble.
01:51:58.000 But Kyle, give us the details on that one quickly as well.
01:52:00.000 Yep, it's Rumble.com slash Kyle Serafin, so that's really easy.
01:52:03.000 And then my buddies, the fellow whistleblowers, are doing one called the American Radicals Podcast.
01:52:07.000 That's what we all are now at this point, you included.
01:52:09.000 We're all American Radicals, so it's amradpod on Rumble.
01:52:13.000 And then they can just follow me on my social handles where I put out a lot of feeling hurting and sometimes breaking stories that makes the FBI go, hmm, we blew it.
01:52:20.000 And that's at... at Kyle Serafin on True Social and then also on Twitter.
01:52:23.000 Those are the two platforms I use.
01:52:25.000 One engages people that we love and that they understand what we're about and one where we can go fight the battles where they need to be done and maybe change some minds in the middle.
01:52:31.000 So at Kyle Serafin is the handle on both of those.
01:52:33.000 Well, I appreciate it, buddy. Again, I'm looking at the live feed and people are like, great show.
01:52:37.000 Thank you, Kyle. Thank you for doing this great interview.
01:52:41.000 Again, guys, check him out.
01:52:43.000 Check out the podcast. Check him out on social.
01:52:46.000 Like, share, subscribe, and pass it on.
01:52:49.000 Make sure that other people see this stuff.
01:52:50.000 Because again, big tech ain't going to let this stuff get out there.
01:52:53.000 They're going to do the bidding of the FBI. They're going to do the bidding of the bureaucrats.
01:52:57.000 They're going to do the bidding of the deep state.
01:53:00.000 That's been very clear.
01:53:01.000 The Democrats are going to do that.
01:53:02.000 The people that used to be for these kinds of freedoms are no longer for them.
01:53:06.000 So make sure you help us, help myself with this show, help Kyle with his show, that we
01:53:11.000 get this out, that we can take on the traditional media like they did to Dan Bongino.
01:53:16.000 Fox threw Dan Bongino shortly off there because, you know what, maybe he was speaking a little
01:53:21.000 too much truth to power.
01:53:23.000 And even the people supposedly on our side don't like that all that much.
01:53:26.000 So the good news is because of places like Rumble, we actually have alternatives.
01:53:30.000 We got to support them. So Kyle, you're the man.
01:53:33.000 I really appreciate that.
01:53:35.000 Guys, I'm going to switch over and head over to locals.
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01:55:37.000 Wow, I can't believe we went about two hours there.
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