Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Fearless & America First, Interview with The Federalist’s Sean Davis | Triggered Ep298

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00:08:51.000 Joining me now, Federalist founder Sean Davis.

00:08:55.000 Sean, great to have you on, man.

00:08:57.000 Great to be back.

00:08:58.000 Thank you for having me.

00:08:59.000 Well, you know, first I have to ask, we recently had a special election in Nashville where Republican Matt Van Epps won.

00:09:05.000 But more broadly, I'm wondering what you see going on in cities like Nashville. 0.75

00:09:11.000 He won the district, but this lunatic. 0.81

00:09:13.000 By the way, we should play some of these clips. 0.99

00:09:15.000 I mean, this lunatic woman was running who basically said, everyone in like Nashville is racist. 1.00

00:09:21.000 I'm like, why aren't they voting for her? 0.95

00:09:22.000 And then, of course, you see the map of the congressional district and like, you know, it goes outside of Nashville.

00:09:27.000 That was all red.

00:09:28.000 But Nashville, the city itself was still blue.

00:09:31.000 They still voted for this person who seems to hate everyone, thinks that, you know, women who get married and have children are simply supporting the patriarchy.

00:09:40.000 You know, basically a reverse racist.

00:09:42.000 You know, what were your major takeaways from that race since you're in Tennessee and you're based there?

00:09:48.000 Yeah, it really was a strange race.

00:09:50.000 It's an off-year election and it was a special election.

00:09:53.000 So it caught a lot of people by surprise. 0.98

00:09:56.000 I think they're like, oh, crap, we got to vote. 0.77

00:09:57.000 I didn't even know there was something going on. 0.98

00:09:59.000 But Afton Bain is such a weird creature.

00:10:01.000 She's not from Nashville, even though she's a state legislator from Nashville.

00:10:06.000 She clearly hates the state, hate the people who make up the state. 0.91

00:10:10.000 I think she hates everyone.

00:10:11.000 I'm like, I'm not sure who she likes.

00:10:13.000 I'm like, what's your purpose being here?

00:10:16.000 But really, she's the id of the modern Democrat Party.

00:10:20.000 So even though she's from Nashville, a very blue city in a very blue county, there's this weird breed of Democrat that just kind of like hates everything and everyone, doesn't like Trump, doesn't like Jesus, doesn't like Christians, doesn't like guns, doesn't like farms, doesn't like rural people.

00:10:38.000 And even though these people are in Tennessee and in Nashville, they kind of hate what their state represents because they think it represents people who love God and love America and love the Constitution.

00:10:50.000 And these people are Soviets.

00:10:52.000 They're communists.

00:10:52.000 They can't stand that.

00:10:54.000 So to me, that kind of explains this urban hatred of the Republican Party and conservatives, even from people who live in those states and in those cities.

00:11:03.000 Yeah, I mean, it's curious because cities, even in these red states, I mean, Tennessee is pretty damn red.

00:11:10.000 The city's still skewed so blue, even on like the issues of illegal immigration, where they're probably, frankly, far more negatively affected.

00:11:20.000 JD Vance recently wrote, the connection between illegal immigration and skyrocketing housing costs is as clear as day.

00:11:28.000 And he's right.

00:11:29.000 And yet we'll see a big city, Democrats scream about housing costs, but at the same time, they're still all in on open borders.

00:11:37.000 How do we reconcile that?

00:11:38.000 Because it's literally the cause of the thing they're bitching most about. 1.00

00:11:43.000 Yeah, I think there's this weird cognitive dissonance that you just have to operate with on a daily basis as a left-winger or as a Democrat where you just don't allow those different thoughts to take place in your head at the same time because I think it would make their heads explode.

00:11:58.000 But you look at Memphis, you look at Nashville, the two biggest cities in Tennessee.

00:12:03.000 They're also the craziest blue cities.

00:12:07.000 I believe they're the only two counties.

00:12:09.000 I think Shelby County and Davidson County are the only blue counties in the entire state.

00:12:13.000 And that includes like Chattanooga and Knoxville as well.

00:12:16.000 So I think to be a Democrat, you have to understand, yeah, these are all our problems, but you're not allowed to entertain the thought at the same time that any of the constituent members of your party are the cause of those problems.

00:12:28.000 You can't admit that, oh, maybe we have kind of a housing shortage and high prices because we have all these people who a lot of them are here illegally. 1.00

00:12:37.000 But wait, that's the base of our party.

00:12:39.000 So we're not allowed to think that.

00:12:41.000 So we're just going to blame this on something else.

00:12:42.000 Oh, we don't like all this crime that's happening in our blue cities, much of it coming from illegal immigration. 0.99

00:12:48.000 Oh, well, crap. 0.99

00:12:49.000 We're not allowed to say we should get rid of the illegals because they're a part of the coalition and will get run out. 1.00

00:12:55.000 So we're just going to pretend that doesn't exist.

00:12:57.000 So it's this odd, I think, thing that Democrats have to do every day, which is just go through life refusing to acknowledge the connection between A and B of things they see, because I think their brains would explode if they ever had to acknowledge both of those happening at the same time.

00:13:12.000 Yeah, I mean, just look at this Somali fraud ring in Minnesota. 0.99

00:13:16.000 I mean, billions of dollars meant to help the people of Minnesota siphoned off to Somalia and not just like in terms of remittances, but literally funneled to al-Shabaab, like a terror group.

00:13:28.000 You know, that's directly tied to reckless immigration policy.

00:13:32.000 You know, this is a measurable cost.

00:13:34.000 It's affecting those it's designed to help negatively rather than helping even remotely.

00:13:39.000 I mean, we're making big progress on immigration, but like, you know, that's the, it's incredible, you know, the fraud that we're uncovering and that it seems like the governor was aware.

00:13:50.000 There were whistleblowers pointing it out.

00:13:52.000 Not only were they not listened to, they were retaliated against, it seems.

00:13:57.000 How is that even possible at this point?

00:13:59.000 Is that demographic so big there that you would literally go against your own administration?

00:14:04.000 Like, this isn't Republican versus Democrat.

00:14:07.000 These are Democrats in a Democrat administration saying, hey, man, there's billions that are meant to help your constituency being funneled not just to Somalia, but to al-Shabaab rather than helping people who actually could use the assistance.

00:14:21.000 Yeah, and there's this really kind of cruel irony with the Somali population in the U.S. 1.00

00:14:26.000 So the whole reason they are here is because of the civil war that was going on there in the early 90s.

00:14:31.000 So the American military dispatched their forces over there.

00:14:35.000 They sent Delta, they sent the Rangers. 0.66

00:14:38.000 I think they sent the 10th Mountain Division over to go and protect the people from being murdered by all these warlords who were stealing food and then selling it and then using the money to buy arms.

00:14:51.000 So the whole reason we were there was to protect these people who were in large part starving because warlords were stealing their money.

00:14:58.000 The whole Blackhawk down thing. 0.95

00:14:59.000 Yeah, that was Blackhawk down.

00:15:00.000 I mean, that was a big, yeah, that was a big thing.

00:15:02.000 Yeah, Clinton loses his nerve.

00:15:05.000 He's not able to stick with the mission.

00:15:06.000 He pulls them all out.

00:15:07.000 And then for some reason, I guess America has this weird collective guilt consciousness.

00:15:12.000 We decide to bring them all here.

00:15:14.000 And what do they do when they're here?

00:15:16.000 They immediately start building crime rings where they're stealing food stamp money and sending it to terrorists.

00:15:23.000 Who would have thought, Sean, that allowing criminals into your country that they wouldn't reform?

00:15:28.000 I mean, you give them every opportunity.

00:15:29.000 Guess what?

00:15:30.000 They're still going to be criminals.

00:15:31.000 That doesn't mean there's not some good people in there, but when you're talking about billions stolen, fraud rings, liberal judges not wanting to even penalize these people.

00:15:39.000 No accountability, no restitution, no nothing.

00:15:44.000 This is not a recipe for success.

00:15:46.000 No, and what makes it so maddening is how predictable it is.

00:15:50.000 When you import the third world, you import all of the various tribal wars, the clan rivalries, the graft that you have there, all the problems that were endemic to the country they left. 0.98

00:16:02.000 If you bring them in whole cloth without any sort of assimilation, you are bringing in all the problems that they were creating in the place that they had to flee in the first place. 0.94

00:16:11.000 And it's especially sad in Minnesota, in Minneapolis.

00:16:14.000 I have some really, really good friends who were born and raised there.

00:16:18.000 Really good friend who built up a marvelously successful business in Minneapolis, but had to leave because of the insanity of the left-wing government in Minnesota and the takeover of Minneapolis by the Somalis. 0.95

00:16:30.000 People there call it Lil Mogadishu.

00:16:32.000 Okay, that's not hyperbole.

00:16:34.000 Everyone there calls it.

00:16:35.000 It's a huge problem.

00:16:36.000 It's transforming the nature of the entire city and state.

00:16:40.000 That's what mass immigration does. 0.99

00:16:42.000 Yeah.

00:16:42.000 So, you know, do you think that that was intentional that they chose a place like Minnesota?

00:16:46.000 Because you're right.

00:16:46.000 I mean, some of the most incredible people I know are from there.

00:16:49.000 They're so nice, almost to a fault.

00:16:51.000 Do you think that that was a state that was chosen because some of that, you know, Midwestern, you know, us shucks?

00:16:57.000 Okay, we'll put up with it.

00:16:58.000 And like they put up with it, you know, to their peril for so long that now it's so entrenched they can't do anything about it.

00:17:04.000 And they're still probably unwilling to speak out about it.

00:17:06.000 I mean, you know, you do that in some places. 0.98

00:17:09.000 This is ridiculous. 0.97

00:17:10.000 They'd say it right off the bat. 0.97

00:17:11.000 Do you think that that population got so entrenched there because of just the general niceties of people in Minnesota?

00:17:19.000 Well, you know, this seems to happen a lot.

00:17:21.000 We saw Biden do it with where he was bringing in plane loads of people and he wasn't dropping them in Martha's Vineyard or in Manhattan.

00:17:30.000 No, he was dropping them in the rural Midwest, in the rural South.

00:17:35.000 And so I think a lot of it probably was done on purpose because you have this weird NGO immigration industrial complex where I think a lot of it probably starts out with good intentions.

00:17:47.000 Oh, these people are hurting.

00:17:48.000 We have the capacity to help them.

00:17:49.000 We should help them.

00:17:51.000 And then once this complex gets started, it becomes a money thing and a political power thing.

00:17:56.000 So you get these NGOs who are getting all kinds of state and federal grants to resettle people.

00:18:01.000 You have the people in charge of those programs and the government grants who are almost certainly left-wingers.

00:18:06.000 And then they start looking at the chessboard and they think, oh, Minnesota, that's potentially kind of a red state or a state that could become that way.

00:18:13.000 We should probably put a stop to that.

00:18:15.000 And then, wow, what a shocker.

00:18:18.000 You have the entire Somali population in America end up in one city in the U.S. 1.00

00:18:24.000 And it's hard to look at that and think, oh, I'm sure that just happened by random chance.

00:18:28.000 Yeah, and I mean, you take that.

00:18:31.000 That didn't happen by chance, but it's also incredible to see Democrats right now literally running cover for narco-terrorists. 0.95

00:18:38.000 I mean, if it was, you know, an Obama drone attacking Yemen, they're fine with it.

00:18:43.000 A Reaper drone, you know, killed 10 people, nothing.

00:18:47.000 No accountability, no nothing.

00:18:48.000 No one even gets in trouble.

00:18:49.000 It's out of the news cycle in minutes.

00:18:52.000 When I guess that was Biden even, but Obama was droning the hell out of people.

00:18:55.000 Biden, after they, you know, they didn't figure out that the attack was happening on Baghdam Air Force Base, but within 10 minutes, they were definitely able to find the culprits and they drone a family of 10 or two families of 10.

00:19:08.000 And nothing happens.

00:19:10.000 But they're so outraged at us taking on cartels literally in our own hemisphere, literally running drug boats.

00:19:17.000 You know, I haven't spent a lot of time in Venezuela, but those boats look like something more out of Miami vice than anything you see, especially in a fishing boat in Venezuela.

00:19:25.000 They're not running GoFast boats with quad Mercury 450s on there in Venezuela.

00:19:30.000 And that doesn't happen.

00:19:32.000 I do a lot of fishing.

00:19:34.000 Occasionally we use some chum, not in an entire boat of blue barrels.

00:19:39.000 Like there's no room to actually do the fishing.

00:19:42.000 But the Democrats are going all in to pretend that these are actually fishermen and not drug dealers.

00:19:46.000 I mean, is there something going on in South America that they don't want us to know?

00:19:51.000 Yeah, it's fascinating.

00:19:54.000 You know, I grew up in the desert in a landlocked state, so I don't have a lot of experience with deep sea fishing, but I'm pretty sure that most fishing boats have fishing equipment on them.

00:20:02.000 Yeah, you don't need to to know that.

00:20:04.000 It's like you don't need to be a virologist to understand that, of course, the Wuhan virus left from the lab in Wuhan, China that studies the exact virus at ground zero of where they're like, you don't have to be a virologist.

00:20:16.000 I mean, I know it got canceled because I wasn't a virologist and I said that, even though it was obviously true and the most plausible response.

00:20:23.000 But yeah, to your point, you don't need to be a great fisherman to understand that, I don't know, if you're fishing, maybe you have some nets.

00:20:31.000 Maybe you have rods.

00:20:33.000 Maybe you have spools of long line equipment.

00:20:35.000 Like I know a lot about fishing.

00:20:36.000 I do a lot of it.

00:20:37.000 And that ain't a fishing boat, boys and girls.

00:20:39.000 That's just not.

00:20:41.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:20:41.000 Just show me one fish on the whole damn boat. 0.99

00:20:43.000 Like there's not one. 0.99

00:20:45.000 They're actually like super clean, pretty sleek.

00:20:48.000 But, you know, it's interesting having lived through the Obama administration, President Droni McDronerson in the White House for eight years there.

00:20:56.000 That guy was droning American citizens. 0.69

00:20:59.000 Now, they were American citizens who had gone off the reservation and were genuine terrorists, but they were American citizens nonetheless.

00:21:06.000 The dude droned like four of them.

00:21:09.000 And I don't recall the Washington Post or the New York Times or the Democrat Senate Conference being, oh, my stars and garters, we can't have this.

00:21:15.000 This is terrible.

00:21:16.000 They whistled right past the graveyard like it never happened.

00:21:19.000 Yeah, there was no talk of due process.

00:21:21.000 And again, Americans are entitled to due process, whether we like them or not, whether they turn or not, whether they're bad people or not.

00:21:28.000 Like, you know, Venezuelan narco-terrorists are not afforded the same privileges as far as my understanding of the Constitution, which I think is pretty basic.

00:21:36.000 Yeah, and I kept hearing this term from the left.

00:21:39.000 These were shipwrecked sailors that were attacked.

00:21:42.000 Oh, really?

00:21:43.000 Under what flag were they sailing?

00:21:45.000 Because there's pretty basic rules on what you have to do in the open sea.

00:21:49.000 You don't just get to go out there on a big old boat, however you feel like it, with no identification, no flag.

00:21:56.000 What nation's uniform were these guys wearing?

00:21:58.000 Because I'm pretty sure they were under no flag and they were having no uniforms.

00:22:02.000 So either they were terrorists or they were pirates.

00:22:04.000 And the law on what you're allowed to do to terrorists and pirates in the sea is pretty clear.

00:22:09.000 But again, these guys are- Maritime law is actually a lot tougher than even American law from that perspective.

00:22:16.000 And it's very clear if they're running, especially 70 miles an hour in the open ocean with no flag with barrels of stuff from a known narco-terrorist state.

00:22:25.000 I mean, this is not rocket science.

00:22:27.000 Like this is, this does not, you know, it does not leave a lot of room for anything other than the obvious.

00:22:34.000 Right.

00:22:34.000 And so my grandfather, you know, he passed away, gosh, 12 years ago, 13 years ago.

00:22:41.000 He was a fire controlman in a submarine during World War II in the South China Sea, which means he was the guy in charge of putting together the firing solutions for the torpedoes.

00:22:52.000 And I heard some stories from him and I've read the lore of what his boat did at the time.

00:22:57.000 They sunk a crap ton of Japanese hardware in the middle of the ocean. 0.76

00:23:03.000 I don't ever remember him telling me, yep, we were only allowed to shoot one torpedo.

00:23:07.000 Once it was out of the tube, we were only allowed to shoot lawyers at him.

00:23:11.000 No, you shot me. 0.94

00:23:13.000 How about another for good measure?

00:23:16.000 Yeah, we need more of that generation's mentality, I think, because, man, the Democrats seem to be literally like, you know, a civilizational threat in terms of common sense or just about anything else.

00:23:26.000 I mean, it's just, it's wild.

00:23:29.000 Yeah, it's maddening. 0.96

00:23:30.000 And the stuff they're willing to make up is just another one of their gay little ops that they use all the time. 1.00

00:23:36.000 As soon as one is revealed to be a total nonsensical hoax, they don't apologize or rationalize.

00:23:42.000 They immediately move on to the next one.

00:23:44.000 Like it's actually, it's almost impressive if you have no soul and no sense of morality how they're able to do it.

00:23:52.000 But like they just move, they're like goldfish.

00:23:54.000 There's just no memory of what happened five seconds ago.

00:23:57.000 They're immediately on to the next hoax.

00:23:59.000 And like, quite frankly, I'm tired of it.

00:24:01.000 I'm tired of it.

00:24:02.000 And it has to stop.

00:24:04.000 No, listen, I mean, they're literally going as far as to push sedition from active military people and people in Congress to save drug boats.

00:24:16.000 I mean, it really does make you wonder what's going on.

00:24:18.000 I mean, how have you guys been covering this over at the Federalists?

00:24:23.000 Because it seems like such an obvious one.

00:24:25.000 It's such a no-brainer.

00:24:26.000 And yet, man, if you turn on the media, it's like, this is their hill to die on.

00:24:30.000 This is like one of the top political, we got to save drug smugglers.

00:24:37.000 I don't know.

00:24:38.000 If the Somalis aren't going to assimilate, the drug smuggler from Venezuela, you think they're going to assimilate and start leading a good life and be productive in society? 1.00

00:24:46.000 I doubt it.

00:24:47.000 I think it'd be a long shot.

00:24:50.000 Yeah, it's interesting kind of how we have changed our coverage at the Federalist of a lot of these hoaxes.

00:24:55.000 When they first started doing this crap in 2015 and 2016, we would dig into the details and we would start refuting every little thing.

00:25:03.000 And it was like playing whack-a-mole because as soon as you refuted one thing, which wasn't that hard, they had 10 new lies out there you had to smack.

00:25:10.000 And what we learned over time, and I think the revelation of the Russia hoax being a total conjob made a big difference, is that the games just don't work as well anymore. 0.92

00:25:20.000 And so we've kind of transitioned from having to go and smack down every stupid lie to really just outright mockery because what their goal is anymore, they're not conning everyone. 0.99

00:25:31.000 They're hoping they can get one or two or three stupid Republicans in Washington to play along with their government. 1.00

00:25:37.000 They always do. 1.00

00:25:37.000 That's the problem with our movement. 1.00

00:25:39.000 Right.

00:25:39.000 They always do.

00:25:40.000 Thomas Messi.

00:25:41.000 You got to really protect the drug boats.

00:25:42.000 I'm like, do you think your constituency in Kentucky really thinks that?

00:25:46.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:25:47.000 Like they get a cush treatment from the media.

00:25:50.000 They can kind of, you know, you can be 90% conservative in Washington, D.C., and it's pretty light.

00:25:54.000 But if you give in on the big ones, if you follow their lead, you know, you just, you know, prostrate yourself to them like, you know, on occasion, you know, hey, you can go about the rest of your business in peace and harmony. 0.99

00:26:06.000 Yeah, so I think it's become more important, at least from my perspective, to kind of bully and mock the Republicans who are stupid enough to get caught up in these things because it really is embarrassing. 0.99

00:26:17.000 At this point, if you're a Republican, it's an IQ test. 0.99

00:26:20.000 And I'd say 98% of the people in Washington on the right are not falling for it, but you still got some dummies out there.

00:26:27.000 And I'm reminded of a quote at the beginning of C.S. Lewis's book, The Screwtape Letters.

00:26:34.000 And it says at the beginning, it's a quote from St. Thomas Moore, a Catholic martyr.

00:26:40.000 And it says, the devil, that proud spirit, cannot endure to be mocked.

00:26:44.000 Mockery is a totally underrated tool in politics.

00:26:49.000 If you can get people to laugh at someone, to mock them and enjoy mockery of them, then you own the perspective of that person for a very, very long time.

00:26:59.000 And this is something the left understood.

00:27:00.000 It's why they had the Daily Show.

00:27:02.000 It's why they have Colbert.

00:27:03.000 It's why they took over late night comedy.

00:27:05.000 Unfortunately for them, they're not very good at it anymore.

00:27:07.000 No, it's only effective if you're actually funny in the mockery.

00:27:11.000 Otherwise, it just sounds kind of trite and bitter.

00:27:14.000 Right.

00:27:15.000 So it's something that I think the right has finally discovered: that one, mockery works.

00:27:20.000 Number two, it's fun.

00:27:22.000 And then number three, these people are imminently worthy of being mocked.

00:27:26.000 Like Mark Kelly, the guy leading the seditious six, who was a CCP, a communist Chinese business partner with one of his like drone or space companies for years.

00:27:36.000 That guy's the one out there being Captain America.

00:27:38.000 Are you kidding me?

00:27:39.000 That's absurd.

00:27:40.000 So we mock them for that.

00:27:42.000 That guy could be Captain Crunch, in my opinion, based on every position that he's ever taken.

00:27:45.000 I mean, it's nuts.

00:27:47.000 And yet, you know, they give him the platform.

00:27:48.000 I mean, that's why we, I mean, for you guys at the Federalists, for what I try to do, it's just so important for people to tune out that mainstream media that still turns that guy into a hero.

00:27:57.000 I mean, he literally bragged about bringing like a Chinese Communist Party flag into space as an astronaut.

00:28:02.000 I'm like, that's who, like, that's who we're putting.

00:28:04.000 I mean, you know, this does not seem like we're elevating our best. 0.83

00:28:07.000 It seems like we're elevating the clowns that fit that narrative and will just succumb.

00:28:10.000 And I guess, you know, I have a feeling Pete Hegseth and the rest of the crew over at the DOW are probably weeding out those people and actually putting like, you know, real patriotic Americans who deserve to be there, not like the woke DEI checkbox candidates into space anymore.

00:28:25.000 Well, yeah, and it's so interesting looking at what's happened to the Democrat Party because I think the last guy that they had who I think is like a true American hero, red-blooded, middle-America, hadn't lost his mind, was Jim Webb.

00:28:39.000 So this guy was a decorated Vietnam vet.

00:28:41.000 He was an author.

00:28:43.000 He never totally lost his mind.

00:28:46.000 And they ran that guy out of the party.

00:28:47.000 Normally, that's the guy you're going to use on this kind of operation, someone who's respected, who has that history, who isn't a Looney Tunes.

00:28:55.000 They don't have those people in their party anymore.

00:28:58.000 So they have to go to people like Mark Kelly, a CCP stooge, to go do their dirty work.

00:29:04.000 And so it's a little funny that they're now in this mess that they're having to pick chuckleheads like that to run these ops because they just don't have good people to do it anymore.

00:29:12.000 Like who else do they have? 0.96

00:29:13.000 Alyssa Slotkin, freaking CIA stooge? 0.97

00:29:16.000 They can't really use her. 0.97

00:29:17.000 So they have to go to Mark Kelly.

00:29:18.000 Well, but they also driven out reasonable people.

00:29:21.000 I mean, I don't agree with them on everything.

00:29:23.000 Like, you know, Joe Manchin was a reasonable guy.

00:29:24.000 He's like, I can't be here anymore. 1.00

00:29:25.000 These people are fucking crazy. 1.00

00:29:26.000 Like, it's like, I got to get the hell out of here. 1.00

00:29:29.000 You see what they're trying to do to John Fetterman, who's like really pretty damn left. 0.87

00:29:34.000 But like on a few issues, he's like, this is nuts.

00:29:36.000 Like, this is not what my people want.

00:29:38.000 It's like, now they're going to primary him.

00:29:39.000 I'm like, he's one of the only people that is even willing to stand up to any of the, like, it's, again, I don't agree with him probably on much on some of these issues, but he was able and willing to take a couple stances that didn't just go with the narrative.

00:29:52.000 On two or three issues, he's far more popular than most of them, especially in his own district.

00:29:55.000 And they're like, primary, like, we got to get that guy out of there.

00:29:59.000 He doesn't want to see whatever the hell, you know, common sense things his actual constituency agrees with.

00:30:05.000 Like, they're a rudderless ship.

00:30:09.000 Oh, Fetterman, he's a fascinating test case.

00:30:12.000 And it says everything about the modern Democrat Party, that the guy with significant brain damage is the only one making sense half the time.

00:30:19.000 Like, how do you get to that point in your party that Fetterman is the guy who people look to is like, yeah, yeah, he's the sane one.

00:30:25.000 He's the one who actually understands some of this stuff.

00:30:28.000 And like you said, I don't agree with him on most stuff, but he actually fits his state shockingly well.

00:30:34.000 Yeah, he knows his people and is willing to represent them.

00:30:37.000 You know, the problem with everyone else on the Democrat side is, you know, they know what George Soros thinks and they're willing to represent him, not the people that put them in office.

00:30:45.000 You know, you look at these like Middle America, you know, blue state senators and you're like, who are you representing?

00:30:50.000 Like, I know people from those areas.

00:30:52.000 I know Democrats from those areas.

00:30:53.000 Like, they don't agree with that.

00:30:55.000 You know, they may agree on some of the issues or social issues or maybe abortion, whatever it is, but like on this, like that, that's your hill to die on.

00:31:03.000 And it seems like they have no representation because without that Soros money or the New York and California money, the radical side, like you can't actually get elected, like you'll never win.

00:31:13.000 So they end up electing people who are far more radical than the people they're chosen to represent.

00:31:18.000 And you end up with this mess.

00:31:21.000 Yeah, and it's really interesting to watch how the Soros family plays this stuff.

00:31:26.000 Every time Alex Soros has a meeting with one of these people in his fancy New York loft, he takes a picture with him and immediately posts it.

00:31:33.000 And it's almost like a hunter collecting and displaying the game that he's killed and stuffed and put on the wall.

00:31:42.000 That's what Soros is doing with politicians.

00:31:45.000 And it's a demonstration of power that he's doing, showing I own these people, that they work for me.

00:31:52.000 And man, can you think of a single major Democrat Party power figure today who hasn't had to make the pilgrimage to the Soros loft to take that picture for him to post up there?

00:32:03.000 It's one of his collected little pets.

00:32:05.000 I cannot.

00:32:07.000 It doesn't exist.

00:32:09.000 I'm sure they're out there, but they'd never get elected to office because if they don't make that pilgrimage, they don't get the money and then they can't win.

00:32:15.000 So, Sean, maybe shifting to the economy for a second, where do you think we are as a movement in communicating on this message like affordability?

00:32:25.000 We're building something for the long term instead of just the sugar hives.

00:32:28.000 And again, it's sort of hard to, and I try to, as a business guy, as a guy with an economics, like trying to explain that it hasn't happened.

00:32:35.000 Man, you can't just undo four years of stuff.

00:32:38.000 Like inflation numbers are under control, but the price of goods is still high because you had four years of inflation in like double digit numbers.

00:32:46.000 Like, well, unless you run negative inflation, which is really hard to get to, you know, that baseline is there, but that baseline is not there because of Trump.

00:32:54.000 That baseline is there because of Biden.

00:32:57.000 I'm curious how you talk about that to an audience, because again, they go in there, they still feel, well, things are too expensive.

00:33:02.000 It's like, well, they're not rising as much as they are anymore, but over four years, that base price for that product jumped.

00:33:09.000 And you just can't undo four years of literally gross incompetence and gross negligence in a year, let alone even a few years.

00:33:18.000 I mean, some of those things, you know, they got to work on and we got to try to fix it.

00:33:22.000 But like, you think we're going to really run negative 12% inflation for years to get those things back down to that price?

00:33:29.000 I mean, some of the things, gas and stuff, they can do that.

00:33:31.000 But products across the board, that's not that easy.

00:33:34.000 Yeah, so I think the big problem here and that prices and affordability are just a proxy for is people feel as though they've lost the country that they had once.

00:33:44.000 You used to be able to raise a family in a nice neighborhood in a home you owned on one income.

00:33:50.000 Your kids could afford to go to college if they wanted to.

00:33:53.000 When they got out of college, they didn't have a zillion dollars in debt, and they were able to find a good job with a company for the long term that took care of them and provided for them even in retirement.

00:34:02.000 And so people look around.

00:34:03.000 They're like, man, we don't have that country anymore.

00:34:05.000 I can't afford a house.

00:34:06.000 I've got a zillion dollars in college debt.

00:34:09.000 I've been out of college for a year, by the way.

00:34:11.000 I can't find a job.

00:34:12.000 There's no chance I'll ever be able to afford a home, number one, because I don't have the income to support a mortgage and I can't actually build up the capital I need to do a down payment without a job.

00:34:23.000 You know, I'll be lucky if I can ever get married and have kids.

00:34:26.000 So I think it's really, really important to understand that that's kind of the universe where this affordability argument is happening in.

00:34:35.000 And it's the same thing for immigration.

00:34:37.000 It's not just that people sit around thinking, oh, I hate immigrants. 0.99

00:34:40.000 They're the worst.

00:34:41.000 It's that they see how the country has changed and how its nature has changed and they see how much stuff costs and they can't get a job.

00:34:48.000 And they think, well, you know what?

00:34:49.000 Maybe it would be easier for me if we didn't have 10 or 20 million illegals here. 1.00

00:34:53.000 Maybe it would be easier if we weren't importing people and paying them half of what Americans normally get paid. 0.94

00:34:58.000 And so I think what people are looking for is not a solution right now, that milk has to be cheaper right now.

00:35:05.000 They need to know that people understand that this is something that's been happening over 30 years, 50 years, the American middle class, the core of the American dream being sold out.

00:35:15.000 And they want someone to come in and acknowledge that and then put together a plan to fix that.

00:35:20.000 So I think that's what the Republican Party should be about going forward is restoring the American dream that was stolen from them for 50 years by a globalist uniparty who cared more about making money for their banker friends than they did about taking care of their own country.

00:35:33.000 Yeah, but I also see it again in the for like the Democrats are trying to latch onto this affordability issue.

00:35:38.000 I'm like, wait, like, so if you elect Democrats in midterms, like, you think things are going to get more affordable or less?

00:35:43.000 Do you think they're going to open the borders or do you think they're going to keep them closed?

00:35:46.000 Do you think they're going to keep giving grants to every, you know, every refugee from all over the world, whether they need to be here or not, whether they can add any value into the system or not? 0.95

00:35:55.000 Like, do you think things get better or worse if you bring Democrats back in there?

00:35:59.000 Because I don't think they get better.

00:36:00.000 Like, they certainly don't.

00:36:02.000 So, you know, this notion of like, well, we need a switch.

00:36:05.000 I'm like, I don't know, guys.

00:36:06.000 That sort of seems like we go back to the Biden policy because we know Joe Biden wasn't making that policy.

00:36:10.000 That was Democrat Party decision makers, whether that's Barack Obama, whether that's Susan Rice.

00:36:14.000 That's what they want to do.

00:36:15.000 And that's what they're looking forward to going back to.

00:36:18.000 And that's what gave us the four years of hell that sort of set that benchmark where prices are now here.

00:36:22.000 And it's hard to get them back down, even if you stop the future growth with low inflation right now.

00:36:28.000 Yep, that's exactly right.

00:36:29.000 I'm reminded of Biden, I think when he was vice president, responding to job losses in the coal community, saying, well, you can learn to code.

00:36:38.000 Like that's what the Democrat Party gets you, is that when they come in and deliberately destroy your job, they mock you and then tell you to go get a job in an industry, by the way, that they've sold out to India and China because they know they can import workers there for 50 cents on the dollar.

00:36:54.000 And who cares what happens to the American workers? 0.80

00:36:56.000 They're the ones who jacked up inflation.

00:36:58.000 They're the ones who've made cars expensive.

00:37:00.000 They're the ones who've outsourced and offshored all our jobs in our industry. 0.91

00:37:03.000 They're the ones who are sending people overseas to fight in stupid wars that don't need to be fought and churning up trillions and trillions of dollars in debt.

00:37:11.000 So yeah, I think it's super important to remind people of the alternative because politics really is a competition between alternative visions. 0.98

00:37:20.000 We don't really need to hear what the Democrat Party vision is because we lived it, we saw it, and it's an absolute disaster for the country.

00:37:27.000 Yeah, by the way, I would, now that he's retired, maybe needs some employment, I would pay good money to see Joe Biden learn to code.

00:37:35.000 Like, I think that would be like, that would be a reality TV show that would make The Apprentice seem like low ratings.

00:37:43.000 I would pay a lot to see that happen.

00:37:44.000 I think we should try to make that happen.

00:37:46.000 Hell, I'd pay money to see him learn to talk and learn to walk after watching him for the last four years.

00:37:51.000 Sean, you make a solid point.

00:37:53.000 That's what you geniuses over at the Federalists.

00:37:55.000 That's why you make the big bucks.

00:37:57.000 Because, yeah, you're right.

00:37:58.000 I'd like to see him function.

00:38:00.000 That would be impressive.

00:38:01.000 But learning to code would definitely be funny.

00:38:04.000 So, Sean, as we look to sort of the end of the year, what stories do you expect to dominate the headlines?

00:38:11.000 How do you approach your coverage at the Federalist when compared to say the regime media outlets out there?

00:38:17.000 Well, yeah, I think we look at what they do and then we try to do the opposite. 0.99

00:38:21.000 So they just go out there and lie and make crap up. 0.98

00:38:23.000 And we're like, you know what? 0.99

00:38:24.000 Maybe we don't do that.

00:38:26.000 Maybe we tell the truth and then we just have facts out there.

00:38:29.000 But the reality is the corrupt corporate media has so much power that it's hard to not be reactive.

00:38:35.000 So it's always a struggle figuring out how much of our resources are we going to expend reacting to their nonsense and then how much are we going to expend trying to be proactive and telling the stories that we think need to be told.

00:38:47.000 And it's a constant balancing act.

00:38:50.000 Obviously, I think immigration is a big story.

00:38:54.000 And then I think the continuing judicial coup against the country, those two things, how those shake out, I think determines whether we have a country in five or 10 years.

00:39:03.000 Because if we allow a bunch of corrupt judges who don't care about their oaths and don't care about the law to do whatever they want, irrespective of who we have elected to do things that elected people are allowed to do.

00:39:15.000 And if we don't get rid of this criminal class of illegals, we're not going to have a country anymore. 1.00

00:39:21.000 It's going to be inalterably changed.

00:39:23.000 So I think immigration and the judicial coup are the two main things that will determine what we look like as a country in one, two, or 10 years.

00:39:34.000 In your mind, what's the roadmap to deal with the corrupt judges?

00:39:38.000 What power does Congress have to do that? 0.99

00:39:40.000 Will they actually do that?

00:39:41.000 Are the margins too tight that you lose the one or two Republicans that feel like, I guess it's their duty to always go against Republicans?

00:39:49.000 Can you actually make that happen in the real world and especially with such a slim majority?

00:39:55.000 I think you can.

00:39:56.000 I think it takes real courage and leadership.

00:39:59.000 It's not an easy thing to do.

00:40:01.000 You're going to have everyone in the media hate you, but whatever, like you get used to that after a couple of minutes.

00:40:07.000 I think it's important to put these judges through the ringer.

00:40:10.000 And you'll have some people say, well, there's not the votes in the Senate to convict them, so it's a waste of time.

00:40:14.000 And I would say, it is not a waste of time.

00:40:17.000 You think corrupt judge Jed Bozberg wants to see all of the communications he was having outside of the courtroom?

00:40:24.000 You think he wants us to go through and understand who he was talking to and what he was planning while he was gagging telecom companies from talking about how they were being forced to illegally spy on Congress?

00:40:35.000 You think that guy wants to talk about how he tried to usurp the powers of the commander in chief to take control of military aircraft?

00:40:41.000 None of these judges want to be put through that ringer.

00:40:44.000 They don't want their papers subpoenaed.

00:40:46.000 They don't want to have to testify.

00:40:48.000 They don't want their phone records and their emails and their text out there.

00:40:51.000 That absolutely terrifies them.

00:40:54.000 So I say, by all means, terrify them. 1.00

00:40:57.000 Make an example of them that we're not going to put up with this crap. 0.98

00:41:00.000 Because in this instance, the process is actually a major part of the punishment. 0.98

00:41:04.000 That's what the left does.

00:41:05.000 They don't care what the end goal is.

00:41:06.000 They'll destroy you if they can.

00:41:09.000 But if they can bankrupt you and embarrass you and ruin your lives through the process of dragging you through the courts, they'll do it.

00:41:15.000 So why on earth does the right not understand that they need to do that to the left?

00:41:19.000 Yeah, I mean, it's sort of, I mean, it reminds me, I mean, on Thursday, we saw, you know, Kash Patel and the FBI seem to arrest a suspect in the January 6th pipe bombing, which to me sounded like a much bigger deal than anything else that happened on January 6th when you talk about someone laying bombs within the vicinity of the RNC and the DNC, both of the two major parties of this country.

00:41:40.000 And it was like that South Park episode.

00:41:42.000 And it's gone.

00:41:43.000 Like, you know, January 6th happened.

00:41:44.000 It was almost like that was the alternate if they didn't get what they wanted out of January 6th, which to me is entirely created.

00:41:52.000 And, you know, and I think we all know that now, at least anyone with a brain.

00:41:56.000 But you saw that, you know, Kash Patel's FBI, they now have a suspect in custody.

00:42:01.000 How did that not happen in four years under the prior regime?

00:42:06.000 I mean, it sort of feels like the same level of corruption.

00:42:08.000 Like they had a, you know, a much, they were much closer to it.

00:42:13.000 They were, you know, it should have been a big story.

00:42:15.000 It was never even a story, let alone a big story.

00:42:18.000 It was swept under the rug.

00:42:19.000 And these guys in eight months or so are able to get to a suspect that the other side didn't do in four years or didn't even attempt to do.

00:42:27.000 I mean, you know, I'd ask, how do you deal with what seems like either corruption or incompetence, perhaps both?

00:42:35.000 Is there ever any accountability for that in our major federal law enforcement division?

00:42:41.000 Yeah, I would love to know the full story of why it took four years.

00:42:45.000 You said it took them eight months.

00:42:47.000 It didn't take four years.

00:42:48.000 It took them four years to get nothing.

00:42:49.000 And then, you know, once you had a change of leadership, all of a sudden it took them eight months to actually figure it out.

00:42:54.000 How is that?

00:42:55.000 I suspect it didn't even take them eight months.

00:42:58.000 I think it probably once they got the bad personnel out of the way who had been very deliberately obstructing and confusing the issue to prevent a definitive identification.

00:43:09.000 Because let's be honest, what they don't want is for the pipe bomber to be anyone other than their stereotypical red MAGA hat wearing redneck. 0.72

00:43:20.000 So if it was, and then if it was real, like that guy would have been found in five minutes.

00:43:26.000 Like, you know, they found me like that.

00:43:28.000 That guy had gotten the chair by now.

00:43:29.000 Like, that guy was, you know, like minutes.

00:43:33.000 And I imagine they probably, they may have even come to it, you know, they may have even figured this out.

00:43:37.000 And then because it wasn't that guy, it just went away.

00:43:40.000 You know, who knows?

00:43:41.000 I don't know anything about the guy, but I, you know, I was supposed to have Cash on the show on Thursday.

00:43:46.000 We were going to talk about everything else going on.

00:43:47.000 I was like, oh, wow, that sort of, I guess that changed the script a little bit.

00:43:52.000 So we had something different to talk about.

00:43:54.000 But it is sort of amazing that in four years, nothing happened.

00:43:58.000 And then, you know, and you're right.

00:44:00.000 It was maybe eight months since they took power, but by the time they weeded out all this stuff, I'm sure it was a lot less time.

00:44:05.000 And because of the lawfare we were talking about from the judges, I mean, I imagine they have to dot every I, cross every T because they're not going to get any benefit of the doubt in prosecuting this in any way, shape, or form, which is the exact opposite of anyone who was attacked by the Justice Department on January 6th, where they got every benefit of the bout.

00:44:23.000 No one got any due process. 0.96

00:44:25.000 No one gave a crap. 0.96

00:44:26.000 And these people for nonviolent offenses got to rot in jail for four years. 0.98

00:44:31.000 Yeah.

00:44:31.000 So I read through the whole affidavit, the arrest affidavit of the pipe bomber.

00:44:35.000 And what was really interesting was, you know, the FBI is very good at investigating.

00:44:40.000 They're really, really good at it.

00:44:42.000 Where problems develop is when they target the wrong things or the wrong people and they use that amazing ability and power to destroy their enemies.

00:44:52.000 In this case, when you see the evidence, I don't think these were new facts they learned a week ago or two weeks ago.

00:44:59.000 No, Cash said it on the show.

00:45:00.000 He's like, honestly, we weren't able to uncover anything new, but we just actually did the work with what was existing evidence.

00:45:06.000 Like it wasn't like it was any new evidence.

00:45:08.000 It was that.

00:45:09.000 I asked about some of the things because, again, you see the video footage.

00:45:12.000 It's like frame by frame by frame.

00:45:13.000 It's like 1970s videography.

00:45:15.000 Probably not what's actually out there on the cameras at the DNC or the RNC.

00:45:19.000 So, you know, again, it also created a whole bunch of conspiracy theories, which again, forces people to go down a different path.

00:45:24.000 But again, I think the FBI under Ray and Biden, they were too busy chasing down a grandmother that may have taken a selfie inside the velvet ropes two hours after they broke through, not even knowing they weren't supposed to be in the Capitol building.

00:45:37.000 You know, they found those people really quickly.

00:45:39.000 It's almost like they were trying to find those people and not the other guy that wanted to blow up both parties in our republic.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, the metaphor I would use, so my family, when our kids were younger, we loved doing puzzles.

00:45:53.000 And when you got little kids, you always want to let your kids put the last puzzle pieces in to get that satisfaction.

00:45:58.000 And I imagine what this case looked like was a puzzle.

00:46:01.000 Sean, you and I are so different than that.

00:46:02.000 I'm going to finish the puzzle in the Trump family.

00:46:03.000 Okay, you're going to, you better be on it early.

00:46:06.000 We're not going to let them get those little wins.

00:46:08.000 It's just different.

00:46:09.000 But I understand your point.

00:46:10.000 Maybe I got to, you know, I got to think about that for the future if I'm giving parenting advice.

00:46:14.000 That's hilarious.

00:46:15.000 But I imagine a puzzle that had 10 key pieces missing that you couldn't quite make out the main picture and that those pieces were just left on the side and nobody put them where they needed to go because they knew what it was going to look like at the end. 0.99

00:46:29.000 And it took Cash and Dan Bongino coming in and saying, hey, all you idiots, get away from the puzzle. 0.98

00:46:34.000 We're putting those puzzle pieces in there. 1.00

00:46:35.000 Ta-da, look at that. 0.99

00:46:37.000 We have our suspect.

00:46:38.000 I think that's what happened over four years.

00:46:40.000 And it took them weeding out all these corrupt agents in the deep state to prevent their obstruction and confusion of the issue to prevent their narrative from being blown up entirely.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

00:46:52.000 I know we're going to see a bunch from a lot of left-leaning judges trying to throw this out and make sure this guy is turned into a hero rather than face accountability for his actions if he did it.

00:47:02.000 So we don't even have to do a show on that because we all know what's going to happen.

00:47:06.000 But Sean Davis, thank you so much.

00:47:08.000 Everyone, go check out Sean on social media.

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00:47:13.000 It's really important.

00:47:14.000 Sean, as always, thanks for being here.

00:47:16.000 And again, I apologize.

00:47:17.000 I was a little bit late.

00:47:19.000 I'm sorry.

00:47:20.000 I had to do some daddy-daughter stuff that she was running late and totally not respectful of my time. 1.00

00:47:25.000 But, you know, this is life as a dad.

00:47:27.000 Hey, hey, you made the right choice.

00:47:28.000 The kids are always more important.

00:47:30.000 So thank you for having me on.

00:47:31.000 Appreciate it, buddy.

00:47:32.000 Talk to you soon.

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