Charlie Kirk was a 21-year-old college dropout with a passion for politics and a drive to make a difference in the world. He was a student at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, an avid member of the conservative movement, and a loving father and husband.
00:02:42.000Thanks for being here on this uh incredibly tragic evening.
00:02:46.000As I posted earlier, I don't really even know how to begin to put into words the loss I'm feeling right now over the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
00:02:57.000So we don't have the usual show planned for you.
00:03:02.000Not doing the sponsors thing, you know, appreciate all your support of those guys.
00:03:06.000This is just one of those that's just sort of personal to me.
00:03:09.000So I'll take some time to reflect on this senseless act of evil.
00:03:16.000And then I'm going to take your guys' questions, but we're going to keep it to Charlie Kirk.
00:03:21.000Don't, you know, don't go way down the rabbit hole on stuff unrelated.
00:03:24.000I sort of wanted to be about my my buddy.
00:03:26.000Uh, I'll give you guys the latest updates on the investigation uh as best I can.
00:03:31.000Uh, and hopefully all of us find a way to digest this moment and figure out what's next.
00:03:39.000Um I know from the comments I've seen online today, from everything I'm seeing even in uh in the feed already, it's going fast, but uh people are just sick of this shit.
00:03:51.000Uh, it only ever goes one way, it comes from the left, they preach tolerance, they do the opposite.
00:03:58.000Uh, and when you think about Charlie, um, who is nicer than Charlie?
00:04:08.000I couldn't even get Charlie to go hunting with me because you know, that just wasn't his thing.
00:04:11.000He was a friendly guy who did things with conversation and with discourse.
00:04:17.000Uh, he had those conversations, and he took it into hostile territory, no doubt.
00:04:21.000He actually did the opposite of what everyone does in politics, which is they go to their comfort zone, you know, they go to their little vacuums and bubbles and they preach to the choir.
00:04:31.000You know, they tell everyone who already agrees with everything that is saying what they want.
00:04:58.000Uh, but a couple friends at the time who were, you know, not political guys, just business guys that were buddies of mine from college, and they wanted to help out.
00:05:08.000They were like, hey, man, you really got to meet this guy.
00:05:21.000Guys, like, I remember telling him I was like, hey, man, the one thing we don't have a shortage of in uh this campaign is guys that have no idea what they're doing.
00:06:24.000It was also so incredible to see him grow over the years.
00:06:27.000I mean, speaking at the original turning point events, you know, if you got 50 people in a room, it was a lot.
00:06:32.000If you got, you know, 200, 300 at one of the big annual events, it was like, ooh, well, look at this.
00:06:37.000You know, when I was speaking there this last December at SAS or in Tampa a few short weeks ago, um, you know, I think it was 7,000 in Tampa, and my father wasn't even going to be there.
00:07:16.000He was pretty knowledgeable, uh, but you know, sort of understood other things and how the world worked and sort of helping him with the fundraising operation, trying to help him, you know, grow it.
00:07:25.000But it really became uh, you know, one of those where maybe maybe I end up being like a little brother to him uh in the end.
00:07:33.000But he he was that like brother to millions of people around the world.
00:07:38.000Um just a true patriot, uh, a great American and friend.
00:07:45.000And it was it was a rough, rough 24 hours.
00:07:51.000Um I'm having a little problem over here on the feed, but I I think we can all agree that he was an inspiration.
00:08:01.000Uh he was one of the most courageous principled men I've known.
00:08:07.000And he lived every day with a purpose.
00:08:09.000I mean, like I said, he he had the guts to go into the Lions Den.
00:08:12.000He was there when we we've gotten threats before.
00:08:15.000I mean, the last time I got a threat with him, I guess it was more on me, was back in Arizona right before the election uh this year, but you know, he got it daily.
00:08:27.000Um, and he went out there and did it anyway.
00:08:50.000Charlie dedicated his life to something bigger than himself.
00:08:54.000He fought tirelessly for this country for the values that make America great.
00:09:00.000Uh and really for that next generation that he believed in so much and that uh he really moved the needle with.
00:09:08.000He was civil, he was kind, he listened and he responded with respect.
00:09:15.000You know, the when they talk about Charlie as a threat, and you've seen all those liberal NGOs, you know, oh my god, domestic terror threat.
00:09:22.000I mean, the only threat Charlie ever posed was that he was incredibly effective.
00:09:43.000Everyone whoard their platforms for themselves.
00:09:45.000He gave his ardent, his most ardent detractors, he gave them the mic on his platform to millions of people.
00:09:54.000And then he talked and he spoke to him, and you could see it.
00:09:59.000Even even his biggest haters, they may not have always agreed with him, but I think they end up respecting it.
00:10:05.000And I think the real purpose of all of that was the people that showed up on these college campuses, you know, those tours that I've done so many times.
00:10:14.000The people that showed up that came there with an open mind, those were the people.
00:10:19.000When they heard the arguments of the left and they heard Charlie, they were like, ow, like no-brainer.
00:10:23.000It's why he swung, you know, 40 something percent with you know, young males and you know, 25% or so, you know, overall in just the youth vote.
00:10:33.000Because once you heard the ideas of the left articulated, you're like, wow, not only are they bad ideas, they're absolutely ridiculous.
00:10:44.000Uh, you know, the impact he had on young people, reaching them in masses, giving them courage to stand up, making us unafraid, but letting people get out there and learn to think for themselves and to fight for freedom.
00:12:49.000Moments like this also remind us how fragile life is.
00:12:55.000Um I remember talking to him, what was it, two, three days ago, literally planning to do, you know, be part of this same college campus tour.
00:13:04.000Uh I was gonna do events with him, and we're figuring out dates that work, you know, trying to sync up our schedules to make sure that could happen.
00:13:11.000Um, so when I got that news yesterday, it was uh it was brutal.
00:13:15.000I think I think I was the guy that probably broke it to my father.
00:13:18.000You know, we'd heard obviously he'd heard he was shot, and he called me um to see what it was that like.
00:13:24.000And initially, you know, we heard, you know, hey, he's at the hospital and he's getting blood and he's stable.
00:13:30.000And it's like, man, you know, thank God.
00:13:32.000If if it was one person that could could take that and harness all his energy and his faith to come back and utilize that terrible experience to be able to teach people, it would have been Charlie.
00:13:46.000Um, and I I heard from some of the guys on the turning point team that were there a little bit later, probably 40 minutes or so later, uh, that Charlie didn't make it.
00:13:56.000And my father just called, you know, randomly called me to follow back up just to check if I know anything else.
00:14:03.000And it was literally like two minutes after I got that call.
00:14:05.000And so I think I was the guy that you know broke uh that news to him.
00:14:10.000Uh I think I think it's so incredible that my father is going to give Charlie the presidential medal of freedom, because I think if there's someone who's earned it and uh did it, it's him.
00:14:22.000So I will honor him every day by continuing to speak truth without fear, to speak with confidence and courage, uh, to find a better way to build the future of our country.
00:14:52.000I mean, I think I started that with Charlie in 16, where you get in a room and we'd sit with people and they're like, yeah, we love everything you're saying.
00:14:57.000It's like, so, you know, guys, like, can you maybe go out and say, oh, we can't say it.
00:15:03.000There's that's a consequence for that.
00:15:08.000More more so today than perhaps we ever knew.
00:15:11.000Um, but he kept going and he never stopped.
00:15:16.000So, you know, I'll go on to everyone uh in the chat in a moment and give you an opportunity, perhaps to share stories if you guys have them.
00:15:24.000Uh as I said, you know, let's keep it to Charlie Kirk turning point, that mission.
00:15:30.000I know I haven't done a you know an AMA in a little while.
00:15:33.000It's just it's been a little bit crazy.
00:15:34.000I've been on the road a lot, and so uh sometimes a little harder to do.
00:15:38.000Uh I'm on the road right now, but it's I just you know, I had to do this one and I wanted to open it up to you guys, but let's let's keep it on point and on topic uh for now.
00:15:46.000And I promise I'll I'll get back to you know, fairly regular AMAs uh when we can.
00:15:51.000But you know, as far as far as the investigation goes, the FBI today released two photos of a person of interest.
00:15:59.000Um if you guys see anything, uh, you know, hopefully you can share that picture uh and you know get it out there.
00:16:09.000Uh but if you if you have any real tips, uh call the number 1800 call FBI 1800 C-A-L-L-F-B-I.
00:16:33.000The authorities say they also uh had obtained foot palm forearm print linked to the crime, uh a rifle recovered uh uh in the hunt for the assassin uh reportedly contained ammo engraved with quote transgender and anti-fascist ideology, right?
00:16:53.000I mean, think of how anti-fascist you are to kill someone who disagrees with your opinion, who's not violent, who will go and actually try to have that conversation with you.
00:17:05.000I mean, seems like the anti-fascists are actually fascists.
00:17:08.000I really wish we we gotta stop calling these fucking clowns anti-fascists, because uh if anyone uh resembles the fascists, the brown coats, uh, it's certainly the anti-fascist movement.
00:17:22.000Uh, but you know, that's the left, right?
00:17:24.000Whatever the hell they, you know, it's sort of like Congress or the left, I guess.
00:17:26.000Whatever the hell they call something, it's probably gonna do the exact opposite.
00:17:29.000Uh the fact that it has transgender ideology doesn't surprise us.
00:17:33.000Uh, and I'll continue to keep saying this because it's also true.
00:17:38.000Seems like per capita, the radical transgender movement is has to be uh the most violent uh movement anywhere in the world.
00:17:48.000Uh, I think they make Al-Qaeda and the Taliban seem calm again on a per capita basis, because you know, what is it, 0.02% of the population?
00:17:56.000Like, you know, yet they seem to be beyond reproach.
00:18:00.000No one in mainstream media will call them out.
00:18:05.000Uh frankly, some of the sick bastards uh, you know, on uh on the mainstream media has been saying Charlie deserves this for having conversations.
00:18:19.000I mean, these people, truly, the people I call you, me, probably anyone watching, except for perhaps the trolls, um, Nazis and racist and fascist and uneducated, and you know, everything they could possibly throw at us for years.
00:18:37.000Those people, they're the ones saying, Oh, you fomented hate by having a conversation where you were right with the facts.
00:18:42.000Uh, where you know, when they told you to trust the science and the science didn't line up and didn't make any sense and clearly wasn't science.
00:20:17.000What were the things that he said that were so controversial?
00:20:19.000He criticized the attacker of that young Ukrainian woman on the bus that was just sitting there on her phone minding her own business that was stabbed in the neck by a 14-time offender, released by a radical leftist judge.
00:20:32.000I mean, we gotta give the guy another chance.
00:20:33.000I mean, the same clowns were like, I can't believe you killed a boatload of narco-terrorists carrying fentanyl into the country that could kill tens of thousands of people.
00:20:41.000We we must make sure we welcome them with open arms.
00:21:13.000Um, and I think maybe that's the the number one thing if we we get anything out of this.
00:21:17.000What I think Charlie would have wanted is to make sure that the left does not get what they want by silencing us, by putting us in fear and having us hide in a corner uh and not having these conversations.
00:21:30.000I mean, Charlie was so effective because he was willing to have those conversations, even again with those who didn't like him.
00:21:35.000Um, that's such a fundamental part of our republic uh to be able to have that discourse.
00:21:43.000I mean, Charlie literally said, uh, you know, basically, once the dialogue stops happening and starts to break, that's when the violence begins.
00:21:51.000And he was right, because the other side's not interested in talking.
00:21:57.000They've shown that to that same leftist media.
00:22:21.000I'm sick of having to have that conversation with my five young kids.
00:22:25.000The first two times was about their grandfather almost getting killed.
00:22:30.000Yesterday, you know, before I could before I could even call them, they were still, I guess, finishing up school and sports and whatever it was, before I even could get to them, you know, my 12-year-old son Spencer calls me.
00:23:02.000I mean 12, 13 years old, my two youngest sons, and I mean they're calling, wondering about it because they actually watched him.
00:23:12.000I mean, they saw it watching some of his stuff and other conservative stuff online.
00:23:17.000I mean, that's that's how impactful he was.
00:23:18.000He wasn't, you know, the 87-year-old Republican guy going to speak to a room of Republican donors.
00:23:24.000I mean, it was Charlie who spoke to everyone who went out there, who made that happen, who opened uh the umbrella uh of conservatism to so many others to be able to come in.
00:24:45.000Uh I I think it's the first time perhaps we've ever had you know a bench, uh, which is nice.
00:24:51.000And I think Charlie was a big part of that bench, uh, and you know, and helped create that bench.
00:24:57.000But get involved, join a turning point chapter, keep listening.
00:25:02.000The one the one thing that's great about Charlie Man, he did this stuff day in and day out.
00:25:05.000So there's so much material, and it's evergreen stuff.
00:25:08.000It's not, you know, it's not stuff that has to relate to you know, the next thing that happens next week.
00:25:15.000It so many of the lessons that he talked about and his faith and all these things, these are enduring concepts that will stick around.
00:25:22.000You know, my my kids, your kids, my you know, my grandkids could watch Charlie, the way he conducted himself and handled himself, uh, and and then even talking about the facts, those will remain germane for four years uh and decades to come.
00:25:38.000So there is not someone that can replace Charlie, but I think if we all get involved, uh, again to the advice of the younger people, if we all get involved, if we all you know, pick up what we're good at and stay out there and don't let them silence us, that's number one.
00:25:55.000And I think if we do that, um, even if it's not, you know, one Charlie Kirk, but maybe 30 guys doing one thirtieth or 100 guys doing 1%, 1,000 guys doing 0.1%.
00:26:07.000Um, if we all do that and band together, uh we can we can win.
00:26:17.000If we can talk about these facts, if we can get it out there, we can do that.
00:26:20.000So I'd say, you know, number one, if you're younger person wanting to get involved, you know, get in the game, join a turning point chapter, start having these conversations.
00:26:29.000You can do that respectfully, but you know, we we have to be unafraid.
00:26:33.000They want us afraid, they want us in fear, they want to silence us.
00:26:38.000And the, you know, and they've shown I get it.
00:26:54.000Frankly, it can be it can be outright scary, but what's even more Scary uh than that is what happens if we don't do it.
00:27:08.000What happens if we uh if we don't get involved, if we don't stay in the game.
00:27:14.000Um that's that's truly scary because that's that's not just a generational effect, that's a civilizational change.
00:27:22.000That's the end of Western civilization.
00:27:25.000Um if these lunatics uh get to get to take over and and we sit there silent.
00:27:31.000Um, I I told the story about what I remembered sort of first meeting, Charlie, you know, back in 2016.
00:27:37.000That was it was pretty funny because again, it was I was reluctant to even take the meeting.
00:27:41.000I was like, you know, I did I didn't need uh I didn't we didn't need that uh at the time, but um what I remember you know most about him was just that passion, uh his zeal, his faith.
00:27:55.000Um, you know, he went into those hostile environments each and every day because he believed, and I believe uh he was serving a higher purpose.
00:28:04.000I think we all probably believe that as well.
00:28:08.000Um and so his ability to do that, to do that day in and day out to work.
00:28:13.000Uh I mean, I guess his work ethic is uh second to none and maybe tied with my father.
00:28:49.000You know, Canada has its own problems uh as well.
00:28:53.000But you know, honestly, some of these ideas, these principles, uh, it's not about USA and everyone else, or like these are things that uh, you know, man, uh Western Europe could use some of, and some of these other places that we thought were great bastions of freedom and democracy and yada yada yada.
00:29:16.000I mean, you would have said, you know, England and Europe and uh Australia and New Zealand, like Canada, I mean, they're all great bastions of freedom and expression and wrong, wrong.
00:29:29.000Uh that hasn't been the case in a while.
00:29:32.000Now that you know that they're more likely to jail uh a mother of a daughter who was raped uh for calling out their attackers and maybe saying a mean name about them than they are the rapists who raped her daughter.
00:29:45.000I mean, that's feels like it's happening every day.
00:29:47.000I think that those the the mother who's calling them out serves a larger jail sentence for her commentary on social media than the rapists.
00:29:57.000It's it's absolutely sick, and this can't stand, guys.
00:30:00.000We can't uh we can't we can't keep doing that.
00:30:06.000Well, when are we gonna call and classify Antifa as a terrorist organization?
00:30:10.000These violent people need to be rounded up.
00:30:12.000I haven't been this torn up in a long time.
00:30:29.000Uh hopefully, you know, the FBI is thinking about that, because you know, again, um if you if you look at things per capita, I mean, Antifa is not a peaceful protest organization.
00:30:39.000They've burned down entire cities, they've caused billions in damage, they've murdered people.
00:30:43.000I mean, uh this is not just someone who disagrees with our our points.
00:30:48.000Uh the these are these are bad people.
00:30:52.000I don't know how that works domestically.
00:30:53.000It's a little different when you go after the drug cartels than you do a you know a domestic organization.
00:30:57.000And again, when you have the cover of mainstream media and you have the cover of big tech and they're running and pretending that, oh no, they're just they're just have a different opinion.
00:31:05.000I mean, it you know, it's very different, as we said earlier.
00:31:08.000The violence only comes from one side.
00:31:10.000Uh, and hopefully enough people wake up.
00:31:13.000Maybe if what they did to my father wasn't enough, maybe this is to get people to wake up to understand that and to call it out uh and to call out the hypocrisy from those leftist clowns uh and propagandists, because that's a big deal.
00:31:29.000Uh younger people are reflecting or are rejecting leftism more and more, and now uh should be even more.
00:31:37.000Uh Listen, I think younger people should have probably never been leftist, but the problem is they were indoctrinated from such a young age.
00:31:44.000They, you know, every class, I mean, I saw it happening in places in kindergartens and elementary schools.
00:31:50.000Um, you know, so it takes a guy like a Charlie to be able to go there and actually talk to them and be like, wait a second.
00:31:58.000You mean everything I've heard for twenty twenty years is total horseshit?
00:32:04.000You know, when we started some of these college campus tours, uh I mean, it it was rough.
00:32:10.000I mean, I uh the question I always asked when we opened up those things, um, was basically, hey guys, you know, if you're in this audience right now, you know, raise your hand if you think your teachers would penalize you uh for being here if they found out universally.
00:32:30.000Every hand, every hand in the room went up.
00:32:34.000You know, those guys knew there was a consequence to that.
00:32:40.000Uh one once you hear that truth, you realize that the the house of cards of leftist ideas are just it's it's so I mean it's again, it's asinine, right?
00:32:48.000It's not even like, okay, maybe it's a different take.
00:32:52.000Um, and so when you do have that dialogue and you do it respectfully, again, maybe the lunatic that's having the conversation with you may be not getting it, but the millions of people who are watching when Charlie did the you know, prove me wrong tours, uh they got it right away.
00:33:09.000Uh they they saw it and it made a difference.
00:33:15.000So the best way to honor Charlie and his legacy uh would be to continue to do that.
00:33:26.000I I think I generally think of myself as fairly strong.
00:33:29.000This last 24 hours or so has been uh has been pretty brutal.
00:33:34.000I you know, I don't I guess when you've been messed with the way they try doing to me for so long, you sort of get numbed to so much.
00:33:42.000And yet this is one of those instances.
00:33:44.000Uh perhaps, you know, perhaps my father when that when that was going on, I guess is comparable, but you know, I found out he was okay within two hours.
00:33:53.000So it was it was a long, a long two hours, but you know, I had two hours of not knowing, then you know the next 22 hours of knowing one of my closest friends on the world with two young kids and an incredible wife and a great organization and millions of friends and fans and followers uh was assassinated in cold blood because people didn't like that he used words.
00:34:15.000Uh so I I don't know that I'm that strong, but I'm not gonna let these fuckers win um by shutting up or by going into hiding, um, or by you know not being out there.
00:34:28.000So uh that that's it's easy to do, frankly, probably would be understandable, but I think that's the surest way they win.
00:34:37.000If we let them bully us into that silence, uh that's how they win.
00:34:43.000And you know, we we simply uh can't allow that to happen.
00:34:47.000So uh I think we have to you know follow Charlie's example and and get out there and put ourselves in uncomfortable situations and watch out for each other.
00:34:58.000And uh I think maybe the the bigger thing I've seen so much lately is we also have to, you know, uh you you've probably all seen the meme.
00:35:27.000Uh learn how to take care of yourself, learn about situational awareness.
00:35:32.000Um, you know, it perhaps a little bit easier um for me to say because now secret service detail and all this stuff.
00:35:43.000I didn't for the first five months of the administration, I just didn't want to live that way, and I don't really like living that way.
00:35:48.000Incredible guys love them all, but you know, I'm like driving my own truck and carrying my own stuff and uh you know being able to go under the radar if I want to a little bit because I'm just casual and no one's expecting me in that crowd.
00:36:01.000It's a little harder when the like swarm of people around.
00:36:04.000But um even still, I think what what yesterday proved, and I knew Charlie's guys and his security team really well, and he had that because he had a lot of real threats and he was in the bad positions a lot of time.
00:38:06.000I mean, in this last election, I think um, you know, he single-handedly probably won us Arizona, meaning him and his team, um, probably Wisconsin.
00:38:15.000Uh certainly uh the incredible shift you saw in the you know demographics of the youth vote, you know, going conservative and you know, you know, understanding.
00:38:24.000And again, that it's not like you know, okay, well, now you're getting a paycheck and maybe you get it and you're paying taxes for you know for transgender surgeries and you know Mogadishu or whatever the stuff we you know, all the crap we found out from USAID.
00:38:36.000It's like, no, these were people before they even got to that point, before they were even on the hook for the nonsense and the waste and the abuse and the fraud, most of it probably channeled back to Democrat fundraising operations.
00:38:47.000Um, he did that on his own and he was able to influence people before they even got a taste of that and and literally undo 20 years of programming.
00:38:58.000I mean, think of how incredible that is.
00:39:00.000Um so uh that that's a really big deal, and and and it and a true feat.
00:39:07.000Uh how can we support turning point and make it even stronger?
00:39:44.000You know, I didn't I I didn't know about it, and I kind of do this stuff.
00:39:46.000And I mean, I heard about it I guess peripherally, but I was like, well, what are we gonna do?
00:39:50.000You know, he got people engaged and involved because you know, we had won an election that we'd won Wisconsin in November, it's now January, and there's a special election which basically would decide control of the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which is about redistricting and you know, a lot of important things.
00:40:09.000And we're like, no one's no one's showing up.
00:40:12.000And like not to our event, our event was packed, but people showed up even to the Charlie Kirk event because I was gonna be there and because he was gonna be there.
00:40:24.000We got what we wanted like a couple weeks ago, like we're good, right?
00:40:26.000Like the other side just was able to mobilize and radicalize And just, you know, we sit there, you know, if Trump's not on the ticket, right?
00:40:38.000I mean, you see the difference this time versus 16 because he's got a cabinet that supports him and actually you know believes in the message.
00:41:14.000Okay, they don't have to even be conservative, you know, bring them and let them experience it.
00:41:20.000You know, you know, it'd be really nice.
00:41:22.000How about like seeing like young kids, you know, teenage kids that like are joyous, not miserable, you know, purple-haired lunatics with you know body piercings all over their face because they're they're trying to get attention some other way that uh like if you see these kids, uh you'll be truly impressed.
00:41:46.000It is it's what we want all of our kids to probably, it's how we want them to turn out.
00:41:52.000Um, you know, that's a really it's a really big deal.
00:41:55.000And so uh stay involved, don't give up.
00:41:59.000You know, this chapter, uh this chapter may have turned up, but the book is not even close uh to over.
00:42:06.000Um, you know, there will be people that will end up stepping up and and coming through this and becoming that next, you know, hopefully generational voice.
00:42:15.000I'm not saying that's gonna happen overnight.
00:42:55.000It's like, because if we don't do this, like we're gonna end up in the gulags.
00:42:58.000And you know, you can have a you can have a one-on-one with me in the adjoining cell, not because we did anything wrong, but because um we're personal non grata.
00:44:03.000I think, you know, even yesterday, you know, I uh I was like, I'm traveling, so I was I'm in Europe.
00:44:09.000Uh I was doing ironically speaking tour uh over here.
00:44:13.000Uh so I got the news and it was you know late at night in the middle of dinner, and by the time I found out and by the time I got to bed, it was like 4 a.m., just all the stuff going on, and you know, I'm getting blown up.
00:44:24.000And I was like, uh honestly, man, I I don't want to.
00:44:27.000I don't even want to be one like one of those guys clap chasing because you know, you knew someone and it's um so basically said no to everything.
00:44:34.000And then some of the the heads of turning point were like, hey Don, uh they called me, it's like, can you please go on TV?
00:44:41.000Because basically, you know, I guess, hey, maybe ill intentioned, maybe not, maybe innocent, whatever.
00:44:46.000But it's like there's a lot of people going on TV being like they're Charlie Kirk's best friend, and we don't even know who these people are, and whether they're clout chasing or not, you know, who knows?
00:44:53.000I'm not I don't I don't need to uh go down that road, but they're like, you know, you um Benny Johnson, Jack Pasobic, uh, Alex Marlowe from Bright Bart.
00:45:03.000They're like, you're the like the four designated people that are able to speak on behalf of Turning Point.
00:45:08.000So I spent most of the day today just, you know, on TV, on radio, on podcasts with Megan Kelly, and just talking about this to make sure that people understand.
00:45:51.000You have to understand what these people loosely, but these demons will do to someone they disagree with.
00:46:03.000Again, you can't find a single thing that Charlie ever said that was violent or encouraging that or anything like that.
00:46:09.000If they can be so radicalized to try to literally assassinate that kid in cold blood, uh, you probably owe yourself uh owe it to yourself to go watch that terrible thing, just so you understand.
00:46:27.000Again, because you know, again, I it's I I liken it to me, like during Russia Russia, Russia.
00:46:32.000When I was like, okay, well, you know, I know they're trying me for treason.
00:46:36.000They want to throw me in jail for life.
00:46:37.000The head of the intelligence committee in the Congress is saying, you know, I committed treason, which is a crime punishable by death, you know.
00:46:44.000You're like, yeah, but I was like, there must have been something.
00:46:47.000I know I didn't do anything, but like maybe I took a thousand selfies earlier today.
00:46:50.000Maybe you know, someone came in the room and you know, it was Russian.
00:46:54.000Like I literally wanted to believe um, you know, the FBI said it.
00:47:02.000Um, again, there's a difference between the door kickers and the bureaucracy.
00:47:05.000There's a difference between the leaders today and the leaders, then okay, we understand all that, but like you still like the entire institution, like gent, and I'm sure they're bad apples, but like it had nope.
00:47:26.000So you just understand the length they will go to.
00:47:30.000If they can do that to a Charlie, I mean, Charlie's, like I said, the sweetest, kindest, you know, of all the people I know in politics by a lot.
00:47:38.000If they can do that to him, they'll do it to anyone.
00:47:41.000They'll do it to your kids if they're standing in their way.
00:47:43.000Perhaps the only reason they haven't is because they don't know their names.
00:47:46.000Um watch it to understand the world in which we live.
00:47:50.000And maybe that's the ultimate motivation to stay engaged, to stay involved, to not quit.
00:47:57.000Um, and to really try to keep Charlie's legacy um alive um and going, because it's absolutely important.
00:48:07.000So I guess with that, yeah, never easy.
00:48:13.000So I know it's not often uh that you see me at a loss for words, but uh uh it's it's a difficult time.
00:48:21.000I want to thank you uh for spending it with me.
00:48:24.000I want to thank you for frankly just letting me just help get this off my chest a little bit.
00:48:30.000It's you know, the five-minute TV interviews is just not quite the same.