Sean Davis, founder and CEO of The Federalist joins me on today's episode of Triggered to talk about our grievances and how we need to address them. We will be joined by Sean and I to discuss our grievances.
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00:09:46.000So, Sean, first and foremost, thanks for taking the time.
00:09:50.000As I mentioned in the introduction, we're going to be doing a Festivus airing over the grievances.
00:09:57.000Obviously, we're now in a position to actually address these grievances on January 20th, but on their way out, you know, the Biden team, the swamp, the The military-industrial complex, they want more war, more mass illegal immigration, and much more of everything that benefits D.C. and much more of everything that the American people voted against on November 5th.
00:10:25.000What's your assessment of the risks to be aware of over the next four weeks and how quickly we can right the left's wrongs here?
00:10:33.000Yeah, man, if we're doing an airing of the grievances, we're going to need like a 10-hour podcast here.
00:10:55.000And then immediately they started plotting to destroy him and hijack his presidency, maybe prevent him from being inaugurated.
00:11:02.000And I think even those of us who are pretty cynical were really taken off guard and taken by surprise.
00:11:08.000And so I think we should keep in mind the lessons of 2016 as we move through, you know, this last 25, 30 or so days before we get to inauguration.
00:11:24.000And they'll do literally anything they can with power they have at their fingertips to crush us, to crush President Trump.
00:11:32.000And so I think we need to be watching them all like hawks and assuming that every little time we see a head pop up, every time we see a little movement in the distance, we need to know that they're plotting To take down the rest of us.
00:12:03.000What do you see as the most sort of egregious examples of all of this right now?
00:12:08.000I mean, we're seeing more and more, you know, last week as it relates to, you know, the CR. I know the Federalists had some very stern reality checks for, you know, Speaker Johnson and other Republican leaders.
00:12:21.000Like, it doesn't seem like we need to just give Washington everything that it wants to get this thing done.
00:12:27.000That doesn't seem to be in line with what the American people actually want.
00:12:30.000No, there's this weird thing that happens where no matter how the elections go, no matter who we vote into power or no matter how kind of transformative the change is, Washington just keeps doing what it wants to do regardless is if elections don't exist and they don't matter and the people are irrelevant.
00:12:48.000I think a good example of the nonsense from the deep state over the last couple of weeks is all this drone stuff.
00:12:54.000They're obviously lying to us about everything.
00:13:14.000And yet you come up with these completely absurd lies that everyone knows are fake.
00:13:19.000And to me, it's just a sign of total disrespect of the people that they think we really just have to take what they tell us and go with it, regardless of how silly it is.
00:13:29.000Yeah, I mean, they really do act like aristocrats, right?
00:13:33.000Whether it's the deep state or Congress, we just know better.
00:13:36.000You're not entitled to any information or any knowledge.
00:13:39.000We will raise your taxes and or our debt levels at $35 trillion to keep funding this stuff and keep you in the dark.
00:14:18.000In the last week or so, I saw Mitch McConnell go out complaining about Trump, complaining about the election, saying, oh, you know, we have to do more than to manage America in decline.
00:14:28.000This is a guy who's been in power for like 800 years.
00:14:32.000Yeah, they blame Trump for problems like for years before Trump was ever in power.
00:14:39.000I mean, he gets to carry the brunt of their gross incompetence and gross negligence over the last like five decades of their hegemony and power in D.C. Exactly.
00:15:04.000While he's been in Congress, we pretty much only lost wars as long as he was in Congress.
00:15:10.000And as best I can tell, the only time America hasn't been in decline, either culturally, economically, militarily, in my adult lifetime, was the four-year span from 2017 to 2021. And this dinosaur has the audacity to come in and pretend like somehow he has personally been given a mandate to block whatever Trump and the Americans want to do.
00:16:09.000You know, the elected bureaucrats and the unelected bureaucrats all sort of seem to agree on that.
00:16:16.000If you're in Washington, D.C., if you're part of that swamp, we're just going to know better and we're going to do our best to keep it business as usual.
00:16:21.000And that's the only thing the American people don't want.
00:16:24.000They voted for Trump and Elon Musk and the rest of Trump's cabinet to show them exactly what they've been missing, and they couldn't care less.
00:16:34.000I remember when I was a really young staffer for Tom Coburn in the Senate 20 years ago, and Coburn did this great thing where he hired a bunch of young kids who we hadn't been there long enough to know that you weren't supposed to do certain things.
00:16:50.000We actually still believed in certain principles and we thought we could change Washington.
00:16:55.000And I remember we would do stuff early on and all the people who'd been there for 30 years would kind of tut-tut at us and they'd look down their nose at us and they'd say, excuse me, that's not how we do things here.
00:17:08.000And then we would respond, yeah, that's why everything sucks.
00:17:31.000And that's why they're so afraid, because it's like, once the government realizes, once everyone realizes, hey, they're wasting trillions of dollars, probably legitimately a trillion dollars a year, maybe more, that all of a sudden changes.
00:17:43.000So many of these jobs, they're just meaningless.
00:17:47.000Keeping with the Seinfeld theme of Festivus, it's like George Costanza in that episode where he doesn't even know if he's been hired or not.
00:18:10.000How bad will the resistance be to that, etc.?
00:18:13.000That's such a great example you bring up.
00:18:15.000I remember when I worked on the Hill, there was a somewhat famous like middling economist who worked at the Treasury Department and thought he was God.
00:18:23.000And he ended up being a total turncoat and it ended up getting canned.
00:18:27.000And the story at the time was he was wandering the Treasury building, like moving from vacant office to vacant office for like weeks or months to avoid getting fired.
00:18:35.000And it was like straight up Costanza from that job.
00:18:40.000Yeah, what I love from Elon is you have this guy who's succeeded in literally everything he's done in ways that I find is totally mind-blowing.
00:18:49.000And now he's sunk his teeth into the federal budget and he's decided that's going to be his next project.
00:18:54.000And I just love the energy that he is going in there with Doge.
00:18:58.000He's not playing by the old rules that everyone plays by.
00:19:18.000I'm getting old and cynical, and it's nice to kind of be optimistic and hopeful.
00:19:22.000Again, I've not felt that in a long time.
00:19:24.000Yeah, and again, I think this is someone, obviously, with the brain capacity to figure it all out.
00:19:32.000And again, even if the swamp puts up that fight, the second the people understand exactly what they're fighting to preserve, the waste, the fraud, the abuse, the grift, the graft, all of it.
00:19:45.000It's like there's going to be sort of a mental revolution in our country.
00:19:57.000They're going to do everything in their power.
00:19:58.000But when the people see what these guys are fighting to protect, the lengths they're going to protect that kind of waste, I think it backfires grossly.
00:20:08.000I think they almost just have to go along with some of it or risk just being all totally voted out because this is not little stuff.
00:20:15.000I mean, this is trillions and trillions of dollars when you hear about the people not showing up to work and they don't know where the lights are on in the buildings.
00:20:21.000And, you know, they're still getting paid.
00:20:23.000They're probably making money on other jobs while being full time government workers because they're working from home and they've never been to the office.
00:20:30.000It's really, man, it doesn't seem like they'd be able to put up that much of a fight.
00:20:39.000Again, I'm not naive, but but there is a point where, like, I imagine it's so bad that once people get even a fraction of it, permanent Washington is finished.
00:21:19.000Actually make people go to work so they actually do something.
00:21:22.000And the ones who refuse, those are the first people you cut and you can actually get rid of that.
00:21:27.000You know, no one's going after After four years of working from home, half these people are not going back to their D.C. crappy job if they actually are forced to show up.
00:21:36.000If they're not sitting there playing with their children and walking their dog all day long rather than actually doing their job.
00:21:58.000But apparently now, like having to put on pants and get in the car, I think that's going to be a bridge too far for millions of them.
00:22:05.000What do you think about this Biden bill, where it's like, here, we're going to make a deal for 42,000 federal, just to protect their ability to work from home.
00:22:13.000I mean, again, it seems to just, you know, be a punch to the face of the American public, who's literally, like, Doge was one of the biggest things that they were voting for.
00:22:23.000And it's like, no, no, no, we understand that.
00:22:34.000Designed by the Democrats to protect their bureaucratic stranglehold on the swamp.
00:22:39.000But do the American people see through that?
00:22:42.000Is this something Trump can circumvent because it's inside that sort of 100-day window where you're just like, nope, we're undoing this nonsense?
00:22:50.000Yeah, I have a hard time believing that that's something that can never be undone.
00:22:55.000You know, a Congress can't bind a future Congress.
00:22:59.000A president can't bind a future president.
00:23:02.000So this idea that somehow Biden, by himself, the only person on Earth who can do it, can negotiate through space and time for eternity in a way that you can't undo some ridiculous government federal employee union contract.
00:23:17.000I just have a hard time believing that that can't be undone.
00:23:20.000I mean, all it takes is Congress to go and do it, for starters.
00:23:23.000Yeah, doesn't the fact that they're just doing it and tell us everything we need to know?
00:23:26.000I mean, the fact that they're desperately, with three weeks left against a mandate on November 5th, against all this, doesn't it tell you everything you need to know about the Democrat Party?
00:23:34.000And you asked early on kind of about the risks.
00:23:43.000There's so many people who just aren't doing anything that it's actually easy to overwhelm people with all the insanity to the point where they kind of just shut down.
00:23:52.000And it's like the shock and awe version of government waste.
00:23:55.000If we just do so much of it that it's like whack-a-mole, they'll never be able to stop it.
00:23:59.000I kind of feel like that's their strategy right now.
00:24:02.000Just do as much nonsense as possible and they'll never be able to find all of it and eventually they'll be so frustrated they give up.
00:24:08.000Yeah, I mean, and they'd probably be right if it wasn't someone like an Elon, right?
00:24:13.000I mean, you know, he sort of accomplished, you know, impossible tasks.
00:24:17.000I mean, you look at SpaceX and what it's doing, it's like, they're now like ahead of NASA, which has been doing this for 75 years, funded privately, you know, like, he's the one guy that could probably actually do it, doesn't care.
00:24:58.000We have a military that doesn't exist to, like, foment completely bizarre trans nonsense.
00:25:04.000You know, like, maybe they exist to kill people and break things.
00:25:07.000When I was growing up, my dad was career military.
00:25:10.000He's like, yeah, that's what we're good at.
00:25:11.000We're good at killing people at breaking things.
00:25:13.000And that's the one thing they never seem to be allowed to do, It's always got to be this nation-building nonsense.
00:25:18.000It would be nice if we had a deep state that only existed to protect the American people, an intel apparatus that didn't think its job was just to spy on us and manipulate us.
00:25:26.000I mean, there's like a million different things I think that they can do on day one that will materially make America better for the long term.
00:25:35.000I guess, you know, one of the biggest changes is the power and the passion of the MAGA base, right?
00:25:42.000In 16, you had a lot of people that, like, now that's expanded.
00:25:45.000It's expanded demographically into, you know, a strong part of what used to be the Democrat base.
00:25:51.000We see it with the cabinet picks and the Senate.
00:25:55.000Talk about the shift and the microphone the bass now had.
00:26:01.000It looked like the swamp was going to get a scalp with Pete Hegseth.
00:26:05.000And all of a sudden, the bass was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
00:26:09.000We're not allowing that, aided and abetted by guys like me and you and other vocal forces.
00:26:14.000But that didn't exist in 2016. Talk about that change and that shift, because I think it's really important where it's not just...
00:26:21.000You know, hey, it's the president of the United States.
00:26:23.000I understand he's the duly out of the president.
00:26:25.000But when it's the base and they get it and they see what's going on and they start being vocal, how long can Washington sort of flail in the face of that kind of awareness?
00:26:37.000And I think Twitter or X is a big part of it.
00:26:40.000You know, I think personally, that's a big reason Trump won in 2016 is he found this new way of going over and beyond the heads of all the people in corrupt corporate media.
00:26:50.000And that's why the deep state worked so hard to basically take it over to censor everyone on social media, whether it was Facebook or Instagram or Twitter.
00:26:59.000It's why they were terrified when Elon came in and said he was going to buy it.
00:27:03.000And It's such a powerful tool for the people that I don't think anything that's happened over the last year happens without that.
00:27:12.000And it's because, you know, I agree in a in a member of Congress's office, they can choose to not pick up the phone.
00:27:18.000They can choose to not listen to the voicemail of the tens of thousands of people.
00:27:21.000They can choose to just never go back to their state, stay in Washington the whole time and never be confronted by their own voters.
00:27:28.000Twitter, X, it reopens that line of communication between the people.
00:27:34.000We're the actual rulers of this country.
00:27:35.000It's not the people in permanent Washington.
00:27:37.000It opened up a line for us, the bosses of the country, to our employees, who are the senators and the members of Congress.
00:27:45.000You should have heard the complaints I was getting in the last couple weeks about what we were doing on the Hegsack nomination.
00:27:52.000Senators were furious about the pressure they were getting as a result of the stuff you and I and other conservative media were doing because they thought that the way it worked was they tell us how it goes.
00:28:03.000And we kind of did that scene in Batman where Bane puts his hand on the shoulder of the guy and he says, like, who do you think is in charge here?
00:28:15.000Yeah, I mean, that one was sort of amazing, again, because it looked like this, and you couldn't give them that scalp early, because if they got Pete Hegseth, they'd just start working on RFK and Tulsi and all these people that, you know, again, even different political ideologies years ago, but that just sort of came to light.
00:28:29.000But the Hegseth one was amazing, because it's like, how dare you question our willingness and ability to rely on unnamed sources that made this versus actual named sources?
00:28:41.000People that were there in the room who are willing to put their name on paper and sign it with an affidavit format saying, like, none of this is true.
00:29:16.000And they made it very clear that if these guys were going to do that, they were going to have a problem the next time they ran for re-election.
00:29:23.000And it was a dynamic shift in a couple days' time where, hey, most of the media was cheering and or hoping for some of these nominations to be dead, and that ain't the case anymore.
00:29:35.000Yeah, and Pete, he's such an interesting example, and I think he represents something that terrifies the deep state and the corrupt Washington cabal because of the transformational changes in his life.
00:29:46.000He was a guy who went to war, you know, after 9-11, after the invasion of Iraq, went in super rah-rah, I think like most people who did, and then realized, wait a minute, our lives are being tossed away by people who don't care for us for objectives that they don't understand.
00:30:03.000And it was a really embittering thing for him.
00:30:06.000Every veteran that I'm friends with who was in Iraq or in Afghanistan, they went through the same thing where they look back at the last 10 to 15 years and the people who put them there with utter disgust because of the disdain and total lack of regard they had for their lives and their sacrifices.
00:30:22.000And then you also saw these transformational changes in his personal life.
00:30:26.000You know, I happen to know him somewhat well.
00:30:28.000He is a very faithful, committed Christian.
00:30:49.000And they thought if we can get rid of him, if we can take out the strongest guy of the whole bunch, we can have the run of the land for the next four years.
00:30:58.000Trump doesn't have control of the Senate.
00:31:42.000I'm fighting now to create the America we thought actually existed, but has been subverted by these evil and powerful forces inside the D.C. swamp.
00:32:33.000We were working on a project here a couple weeks ago where the guys who were helping us were talking about how excited they were about RFK getting all the crap out of the food.
00:32:43.000Something happened culturally that was so much bigger than an election, so much bigger than politics.
00:32:49.000And it's the one thing that I find really so inspiring is it's not just us political dorks talking to each other and going round and round.
00:32:57.000It's everyday normal people who were wise to the nonsense probably a lot earlier than we were, and they were just quiet about it.
00:33:19.000I mean, and then there's, you know, guys like me and Charlie Cricket Turning Point.
00:33:23.000I mean, there are people now with big followings, far more so than most of the people in government, willing to talk about it.
00:33:29.000But how do we make sure this has legs?
00:33:32.000I mean, a big part of my whole focus in the last few months, from before the RNC and on, was, hey, it's not just another four years of Trump and then we go back to the old ways.
00:33:46.000We need people who are able to do this and continue this movement in perpetuity.
00:33:51.000It's a big part of my whole push for J.D. Vance.
00:33:55.000But how do you think we sustain this to keep that pressure on, to make sure that these are permanent changes, not sort of a four-year, well, we'll flip the switch off and we'll go back to neocon warmongering and deep state nonsense for the rest of eternity until we collapse the civilization?
00:34:12.000Yeah, I think the most important thing is personnel matters.
00:34:47.000And then step two is, it's really important to show people progress.
00:34:51.000You don't want to squander this moment where everyone has so much hope and optimism and then not do anything with it.
00:34:56.000There has to be regular, demonstrable progress where it's, we're cutting out this program, we're cutting out that program, we're reforming this.
00:35:04.000You can't, it's about more than winning an election, and so many people in Washington, especially Republicans, they think the election is the finish line.
00:35:13.000Like, oh, we got there, we won, we're good.
00:35:22.000And so we have to show the American people, we have to show, you know, our audience and your audience, we're actually making progress because if we don't, people are going to say, oh, it's just same old, same old again.
00:35:36.000So, you know, I have a feeling I know where you're going to go on this one, but I've been talking about for a while, and I'd love to get your thoughts.
00:35:42.000How should the Trump White House remake or restructure the press briefing room?
00:35:48.000It seems like, you know, the usual suspects in the front seat, they've been clearly acting as, you know, actors of the Democrat Party, basically their marketing department.
00:35:57.000It seems there's so many either smaller publications or independent journalists that would never be able to get a seat in that room that have been right, that have exposed some of this nonsense to the American people that made such a difference in this election.
00:36:11.000What are your thoughts on all of that?
00:36:15.000And as you suspected, I have lots of thoughts.
00:36:17.000So right now, there's a monopoly on that press room, and it's held by the White House Correspondents Association, which sounds very official and fancy and austere and all that.
00:36:30.000You can't give a monopoly to this completely corrupt cabal of Washington Democrats who exist entirely to either support Democrat policies or take out Republicans.
00:36:42.000And they decide who gets in that room, where you sit.
00:36:45.000They basically decide whoever gets to ask a question.
00:36:49.000They give the impression that the press secretary can pick.
00:36:52.000But when you've stacked the deck in there, When it's 100% political activists designed to do the bidding of the Democrat Party, there's no objectivity there.
00:37:05.000Yeah, so I think there needs to be a competitor to that.
00:37:08.000Maybe it's somebody who comes in and basically supplants the White House Correspondents Association.
00:37:14.000Maybe you have them jockey for position, but I think there needs to be an independent White House Correspondents Association for independent media, like the Federalist or Breitbart.
00:37:24.000Rumble, you know, why shouldn't Rumble have a seat in there?
00:37:27.000How about the biggest podcasters in the world?
00:37:30.000I mean, some of these guys have 10x the audience of the New York Times or the Washington Post.
00:37:35.000And they've been objectively right far more often than that.
00:38:17.000You know, at The Federalist, all we've ever cared about is representing the people who read us.
00:38:22.000We don't exist to tell them what Washington wants.
00:38:24.000We exist to tell Washington what the people want.
00:38:27.000And that's what you need in there, in that briefing room.
00:38:30.000And it's something that, you know, professional Washington, the completely corrupt White House press corps, they'll fight it tooth and nail, but they're a huge problem.
00:38:40.000Maybe even a bigger problem than everything else, because the Democrats in the deep state, they can only get away with the nonsense they do because they have the media providing air cover for them.
00:38:51.000Yeah, I mean, and again, I'm not about blocking anyone else out of that room.
00:38:55.000But to show the contrast is so important.
00:38:59.000So even if it's just an expansion of that room, allowing for other voices, again, clearly not as corrupted, clearly not as politically biased.
00:39:09.000I think the American people would want that.
00:39:11.000And I imagine the White House press corps is going to rebel greatly against that.
00:39:29.000There's a rota of people going in and out to give other people a chance at these things, especially You know, if you're going to do a press briefing on some of the stuff they do with health, I mean, shouldn't you have people who are actually experts in that, not just people who are White House correspondents that may not know anything about the issues, may not understand what's at play, may not understand just how broken some of these things may be?
00:39:50.000Yeah, my understanding is the president can control what happens there.
00:39:57.000The White House belongs to the president.
00:39:59.000And my understanding is that there's a contract between the White House and the White House Correspondents Association governing access to and different responsibilities in that briefing room.
00:40:08.000And I think the president should be able to go in there and set those terms however he wishes.
00:40:15.000And if the White House Correspondents Association doesn't like him, well, then they just don't need to be there.
00:40:21.000What else would you be doing to get out there the truth?
00:40:25.000All we want is for people to see what's actually going on.
00:40:30.000What are the other things that have perhaps been neglected for a while, perhaps obviously intentionally neglected for a while?
00:40:36.000What are the other things that we could do to have the right information out there for people to digest?
00:40:45.000Well, one thing that's super frustrating being in right-wing media is there is a tendency for all the big leaks, the big important news.
00:40:54.000Yeah, we knew the New York Times sucks, and yeah, we know CNN is corrupt, but we're still going to have our press people go out and feed the stuff to them, and they get all the big stories, which allows them to set the narrative every single day.
00:41:04.000That's one thing that really needs to change.
00:41:07.000Those stories, those tidbits should be given to Daily Caller and Daily Wire and The Federalist and Breitbart and The Washington Examiner and Real Clear Politics.
00:41:16.000Why is anyone going to The New York Times?
00:41:19.000Like, no one cares about them anymore.
00:41:21.000And in fact, there was an article out last week where they interviewed, I think, the digital chief or one of the press people in the Kamala Harris campaign who was frustrated that Going to the New York Times and doing their interviews with the Washington Post, it didn't help them at all because everyone already assumed they were completely in the tank for Democrats.
00:41:42.000They shouldn't get stories anymore because if all they're going to do is lie and collude and peddle nonsense, the way to take away their power is to take away their ability to really get information and get leaks from people in Washington who honestly should know better by this point.
00:41:58.000Yeah, and by the way, moving the press briefing room like, you know, more than 35 feet away from my father's office where they're just hanging out there, you know, taking people out for steak dinner so they get those kind of leaks, which they then manipulate is a big deal.
00:42:09.000I got a lot of heat in the press, you know, when I first started talking about this a couple weeks ago, saying like, yeah, this is a no-brainer because I simply want more voices.
00:42:17.000But the legacy news outlets, they want fewer voices.
00:42:38.000But they were so used to having that monopoly on information.
00:42:43.000They were so used to the algorithm suppressing a thought that opposed the chosen narrative that they can't actually handle being in an actual fair fight.
00:42:56.000They're used to having the entire weight and force of big tech, of social media, of legacy media.
00:43:03.000You know, trillion dollar institutions sort of just backing up their lives and they can't handle sort of, you know, objective debate, which is really scary.
00:43:13.000And a perfect example of that was this conversation between Chris Eliza, who used to be with the Washington Post and CNN, and Chuck, whatever his name, Chuck Todd.
00:43:24.000And they were complaining about the settlement between ABC and President Trump.
00:43:30.000ABC and George Stephanopoulos had lied about Trump.
00:43:33.000And by the way, I got to say- By the way, I negotiated that settlement, so I have a little- I was like, listen, we can take depositions for the next coming months because we know there's probably something there.
00:43:42.000We can make this go away and let's get back to business.
00:43:44.000There is more important stuff figuring out.
00:43:46.000I mean, the fact that ABC News writes a $15 million check, whatever it may be, I don't know.
00:43:52.000I think that's sort of a solid admission that they were wrong.
00:43:55.000But the reality is we should be suing 30 other agencies for doing the exact same thing.
00:44:00.000Well, yeah, and they were complaining.
00:44:01.000I was going to say, your dad's nickname for Stephanopoulos, by far, is my favorite of all of them.
00:44:05.000I think he calls him Slopadopoulos, which just makes me laugh out loud when I hear it.
00:44:10.000But Selyza and Chuck Todd were complaining, like, how can journalists do their job when stuff like this happens?
00:44:33.000But it's what they've gotten away with for far so long.
00:44:36.000I mean— And they did it over and over.
00:44:39.000I mean, you could theoretically go back and do the same thing about Russia, Russia, Russia, but, you know, they have a source that said, I mean, they've tried doing it to me, it's like, we've got two sources that said this, like, well, here's everything that happened, here's 12 people that were actually in the room, like, run with it, I'm gonna sue you.
00:44:55.000And you can see when you do that, you actually push back.
00:45:12.000But it's like, this has been a narrative that's been going on for so long.
00:45:16.000And now, hopefully, some of that is at least broken.
00:45:21.000Yeah, the Hunter Biden laptop thing from 2020, I think...
00:45:26.000It just illustrated how totally corrupt these people are because there was no basis for them going and banning people and censoring people.
00:45:33.000And yet they were shocked that anyone was like kind of bothered by that.
00:45:37.000Oh, you're you're upset that we banned and you're opposed for saying stuff that's true.
00:46:14.000If we could get law enforcement to focus on those kinds of things rather than arresting grandmas who bought Bibles or a MAGA hat, I imagine there's a plethora of sick and deviant people hiding out over there.
00:46:26.000It's almost like if you're there, it's almost like a default to me, but what do I know?
00:46:34.000I went and created an account just to look at it, and I spent like five seconds in there, and it was like being in the comments section of a 2008 Daily Coast blog post.
00:46:45.000And of course, Liz Cheney's over there now.
00:46:47.000She's exclusively posting on Blue Sky.
00:46:49.000And it's pretty clear that Liz Cheney is a criminal based on the stuff that we found out on the January 6th testimony and the witness tampering.
00:46:56.000And I'm sure she'll get her preemptive pardon from the Biden administration.
00:46:59.000I imagine that was part of the endorsement, although I think the endorsement of the Bidens by the Cheneys was probably very helpful to us because it just explained the irony and the hypocrisy of where today's Democrat Party is after spending the last 30 years calling them war criminals, but minor details.
00:47:16.000That was probably my favorite storyline of the whole 2024 election was the rebirth of the Cheney family, who was the most hated family in all of politics for like eight years in the 2000s.
00:47:28.000And now Kamala Harris's closing argument is going around with Liz Cheney, who's basically Dick Cheney without the charm and warm personality.
00:48:30.000I think it's absolutely on life support.
00:48:32.000When you look at the audience demographics for all of cable news, I think the average age is like 70 or 75. And so look, I love people in that age group.
00:48:46.000But, you know, people our age are not watching it.
00:48:48.000People in their 20s, they're not watching it.
00:48:51.000They're watching podcasts, they're on TikTok, they're on X. So I think that medium is absolutely dying.
00:48:56.000And I think what happened in 2024 with all the podcasts that President Trump did, that was kind of like the coming out party of independent media.
00:49:18.000Like you said, you know, people watching cable, it's the same, you know, in the case of CNN, like 300,000 people every day, you know, 400,000 people every night.
00:49:25.000You know, even on the conservative side, the same 2 million people.
00:49:29.000People like, you know, I got banned from some of the biggest names in conservative media for two and a half years.
00:49:33.000And like, you know what it did to like my following in it?
00:49:50.000But it's because the landscape has shifted so far and being willing to embrace that and also, more importantly, having the capability of doing that.
00:49:59.000I mean, you know, watching James Carley, why didn't Kamala do Rogan?
00:50:03.000It's like, well, he's an Incapable of having a conversation for an hour, let alone three hours.
00:50:24.000Yeah, and it's an interesting switch that's happened.
00:50:26.000I think kind of when the whole Skype Zoom thing started taking off, it looked a little amateurish.
00:50:31.000You didn't have the beautiful production value of the big cable networks, which we had kind of assumed was so prized by everyone.
00:50:38.000And then as, you know, Rogan gets bigger and Theo Vaughn and Andrew Schultz, It's not the production value of these things that are bringing people in.
00:51:05.000But by the time you're three hours in, the real you is finally going to come out.
00:51:10.000And that's what people actually want to see.
00:51:12.000Two minute clips with makeup and your hair done and it's perfect lighting and a great backdrop.
00:51:17.000They want to see the real you and what you actually believe.
00:51:20.000Yeah, I mean, yeah, I always said, I mean, even, you know, sort of during the Republican primary, there's people that were going different directions and whatever.
00:52:27.000But I was like, here's a story about my dad, like, you know, busting on a, you know, a party I had like freshman year of college, you know, on the floor of Trump Tower where I told him it was gonna be like five to seven people and it was like 200 people and like just wild.
00:52:39.000And it was funny and it was also humanizing.
00:52:42.000If you're able to do it, if you're able to have that kind of fun, again, the authenticity shows.
00:52:48.000And by the way, I think it also shows, you know, endurance.
00:52:54.000People knew that if the phone rang at three o'clock in the morning when the shit hits the fan, so to speak, Joe Biden was not going to be capable of doing that.
00:53:02.000They're watching Trump at 78 do three hours plus having a good time still joking about it.
00:53:17.000I know I heard the similar commentary about J.D. Vance.
00:53:23.000The other side, Tim Walsh and Kamala, even if they wanted to do that, and he was going to open the door for them one way or the other, and I think that's totally fair and just, they knew they didn't have it, and therefore they avoided it.
00:54:23.000It was far more effective in so many ways than anything else.
00:54:27.000And I'm always reluctant to do this because the media is going to say, but what kid hasn't had a party in their teen years or college years or whatever that maybe got a little aggressive?
00:54:39.000The thought of my father kind of coming up there in his underwear, basically being like, what's going on here?
00:54:44.000A bunch of moron-like college kids going...
00:55:35.000And that's something that's hard to come across in typical TV interviews.
00:55:39.000But if you're going to be a successful politician, if you're going to be a good executive or a good leader, you have to be a good listener.
00:55:46.000You can't sit there for three hours with someone and have a conversation if you're not a good And I think that's an understated thing that a lot of people picked up that nobody's really talked about.
00:55:55.000Yeah, I mean, I think it's also sort of like the art of storytelling itself and being able to actually give people something to believe in and relate to that makes, it's like, oh, wow, like this is a guy that actually understands it.
00:56:06.000It was interesting, you know, listening to my father talk about, I guess he was talking, you know, civil war.
00:56:11.000I mean, you know, people are like, wait a minute, like, He's not just the guy that sort of brash on Twitter and talks crap.
00:56:18.000He's like, wait a minute, there's actually a lot more substance to this guy.
00:56:31.000So the three-hour interview, it's not something you can do in seven minutes on Fox News where, you know, you got to bang out the five soundbites and, you know, you get cut off to go to commercial break.
00:56:41.000It's like you see that depth and the depth is so important because that depth gives people the confidence that, okay, you know, when it does go bad, this is someone who does understand it.
00:56:53.000It's not just what I've seen in, again, short form.
00:56:56.000Yeah, and you want to talk about history.
00:56:58.000History is like the ultimate decoder ring for running a government.
00:57:03.000All of the answers, or maybe not all of them, most of them you can find in history.
00:57:07.000Somebody before you has faced a similar challenge, and it's amazing what you can learn about what they did right or what they screwed up.
00:57:14.000And hell, Joe Biden doesn't know what happened yesterday.
00:57:17.000And this guy is somehow going to be a leader?
00:57:19.000Like, I'm not sure he knows what he had for breakfast this morning.
00:57:46.000He's got like an old school mentality.
00:57:47.000He's like, well, if I show that, it looks like I'm weak.
00:57:49.000And when I'm negotiating with Putin or Xi or the mullahs or whatever it may be, You know, it puts me in a bad light in terms of at the negotiating table, but I'm like, but yeah, you also got to win an election.
00:57:59.000You got to get people to understand that.
00:58:01.000So I think, you know, those podcasts, honestly, like the comedic stuff was even more so, you know, the Theo Vaughn and, you know, him asking about like, you know, cocaine and what it actually does.
00:58:11.000It was just like, it was funny and it was like real and it changed.
00:58:15.000It was a dynamic shift that regular people were like, okay, you know, this guy isn't what he's been made out to be in the media.
00:58:49.000And that's just not something that ever comes across in normal TV, not on The Apprentice, not on news programs.
00:58:55.000But when you actually have people like Theo or Rogan who are interested in him as a person, who want to hear him tell his stories, you're never going to get that from CBS, from Norah O'Donnell or Slopidopolis.
01:01:12.000Yeah, I assume they had trouble, like, getting the prints off of it because the marker that said Hunter Biden's cocaine on the baggie had, like, smudged the fingerprint.