Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Happy New Year! The Best of 2023 and How We Win in 2024 | TRIGGERED Ep.97

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00:05:31.000 hey guys happy new year and welcome to a special episode of trigger tip

00:05:50.000 Tonight we're going to take you through the past year of the show from the very first episode and highlight some of the best interviews with the best guests on the topics that you guys care about.

00:06:01.000 So I hope that everyone finished out the year strong.

00:06:06.000 I know I had an absolute blast with the family and we're doing fireworks and it was...

00:06:11.000 It was a mess, but it was amazing.

00:06:15.000 Closing out a crazy year.

00:06:18.000 Just so much going on.

00:06:20.000 So we're going to play back some of the great clips of that one.

00:06:22.000 We're going to have some fun with that. I also hope you guys had a great Christmas or whatever it is that you celebrate.

00:06:27.000 But... 2024, gonna be a big year and we're all gonna have to work.

00:06:31.000 So this one is gonna be a fun one.

00:06:33.000 We have had an incredible year with major growth on the show and just trying to get it out there for Rumble, a true free speech platform.

00:06:44.000 So tonight you're gonna hear from major figures like Tucker Carlson, Steve Bannon, Darren Beattie, Roseanne Barr, even...

00:06:53.000 Even your favorite president and my father, Donald J. Trump.

00:06:58.000 But I also want to take a moment to thank all of you for supporting the show and making all of this possible.

00:07:03.000 I started this out, honestly, like I never thought I'd actually have a podcast, right?

00:07:08.000 I didn't think I'd be doing that.

00:07:10.000 Given what's going out there in the mainstream media, we talk about this regularly.

00:07:14.000 This is not an uncommon theme on this show.

00:07:16.000 Given what happens in big tech, given all of the limitations on what you can say on YouTube, a total disaster for free speech.

00:07:27.000 For free thought that doesn't just go along with the narrative.

00:07:30.000 You know, Rumble's just been amazing for that.

00:07:32.000 And so we got to get out there and like the businesses that we got to try to support.

00:07:36.000 We talk about that pretty regularly on the show.

00:07:38.000 You know, supporting a true free speech platform.

00:07:41.000 You know, no limitations.

00:07:44.000 It's there for everyone.

00:07:46.000 They let me do my thing, but we also got to make sure that we get that message out there.

00:07:50.000 We're up against literally trillion dollar institutions whose Seeming purpose is obviously to do the work of today's radical leftists, the Marxists.

00:08:02.000 It's no longer the Democrat Party, right?

00:08:04.000 We understand that. They're working full-time to do that, so started doing this to try to break through that as best as we can.

00:08:13.000 So really appreciate you guys, and you can help us by hitting the like button, by sharing, by subscribing, you know, send it to your friends.

00:08:21.000 And remember, you can also find Triggered On Spotify and Apple Podcasts after they air here on Rumble.

00:08:28.000 So, you know, like this time of year, if you're traveling for the holidays or whatever it may be, or you drive on the weekends and you want to listen that way, it's another awesome way to stay in touch with what's going on.

00:08:39.000 So today, we're obviously, and together, we're taking on that legacy media

00:08:46.000 and giving millions and millions of Americans a voice and a home right here on Rumble,

00:08:53.000 where you can get all the news without the spin, without the nonsense,

00:08:56.000 and bring you the uncensored conversations and unfiltered talk that I think everyone actually wants,

00:09:04.000 that I think would be so important for growth.

00:09:06.000 I know for me in life, just regurgitating what someone else tells you

00:09:10.000 without having to think about it, without having to argue it right, wrong, or indifferent,

00:09:14.000 literally did nothing for my progress, my education, getting better at whatever it is that I was doing.

00:09:21.000 So, you know, having those conversations, having those uncomfortable conversations,

00:09:25.000 just fundamental in all of our growth.

00:09:27.000 But before we get into all of that, I wanna give you guys a quick rundown

00:09:32.000 of some of the top headlines.

00:09:33.000 Immigration obviously being a big one this year.

00:09:36.000 Because in this new year, expect all of the far left insanity to just keep getting worse.

00:09:43.000 It's only going to get worse, folks.

00:09:45.000 There's probably nothing they will not throw at us.

00:09:49.000 We've seen that. They've totally disregarded Basic rules.

00:09:54.000 They screech and scream about democracy, even though we're a constitutional republic, you know, minor details.

00:10:00.000 I think that's what's going on.

00:10:05.000 But we saw that.

00:10:06.000 We saw that in Maine. Just this week, the Maine Secretary of State took my father off the ballot there.

00:10:13.000 Not because of a case.

00:10:15.000 Not because of the law. She's not even a lawyer. 0.97

00:10:18.000 She just unilaterally decided.

00:10:20.000 So remember when the Democrats talk about democracy and they scream about all this stuff?

00:10:25.000 They don't actually believe it, folks.

00:10:27.000 They don't believe a word of it.

00:10:29.000 You have a single individual, not even a lawyer, not even citing actual cases in Maine or elsewhere, but someone who, and I quote, watched some YouTube videos.

00:10:42.000 Think about that. They watched some YouTube videos about Donald Trump possibly being an insurrectionist.

00:10:50.000 By that logic, I think we should start watching Alex Jones and running with what he goes with because...

00:10:58.000 Candidly, he's been much more correct than all of the media for the last decade or so.

00:11:02.000 Why don't we start doing that?

00:11:04.000 Why don't Republican Secretary of State start doing that and throw Joe Biden off? 1.00

00:11:08.000 I mean, clearly, there's far more links to Joe Biden and bribery schemes than there are to Donald Trump and any insurrection.

00:11:15.000 Because despite their narrative, we've seen that crumble over the last year.

00:11:20.000 2023 saw that narrative go down the tubes real quickly.

00:11:26.000 But... They'll still run with it, right?

00:11:29.000 The first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world.

00:11:32.000 But beyond that, folks, we got to understand what that other side is doing and we got to combat it, which is another reason why we have to take it so seriously, why we do have to share these messages, why we do have to support the companies that actually support this kind of programming and not just, you know, blindly follow the herd or big woke corporate, etc., Now, unfortunately, we're starting 2024 under invasion.

00:11:55.000 Biden ended 2023 by setting another record.

00:12:00.000 More than 302,000 illegal immigrants crossed into the United States across our southern border in December.

00:12:09.000 That's an all-time record.

00:12:10.000 All-time. Last month, that was set.

00:12:15.000 The last record was set a few months back.

00:12:17.000 I guess it was in September. And it just keeps going.

00:12:19.000 And they're not making any effort to stop.

00:12:21.000 And we know why, guys.

00:12:23.000 Right? It's not the great replacement theory.

00:12:26.000 That's the great replacement reality of what the Democrats are trying to do.

00:12:30.000 Okay? There are a lot of numbers that get thrown around when it comes to illegal immigration.

00:12:35.000 Here's a comparison that makes it very easy for everyone to understand the scale of this invasion.

00:12:42.000 There are now more illegal immigrants crossing into the United States than there are babies born here on an annual basis.

00:12:51.000 Think about that. More illegals coming in here than there are babies born here There are about 3.2 million babies born every year, and the Biden administration says 3.8 million illegal immigrants crossed in the past fiscal year.

00:13:06.000 Think about that. And that's what they know about.

00:13:09.000 Imagine how many more millions they have no idea about.

00:13:13.000 I mean, so that number probably pales in comparison to the real number.

00:13:18.000 The illegal immigrants are not gonna stop coming as long as Democrats are in power. 1.00

00:13:24.000 They're encouraging this.

00:13:26.000 Starting today, illegal immigrants residing in California will become eligible for taxpayer-funded health insurance.

00:13:33.000 Are you serious?

00:13:37.000 This is estimated to cost citizens there about $3.1 billion annually.

00:13:46.000 People in California pay taxes to take care of people who are illegally in their state.

00:13:53.000 Not only do you have to pay for yourself and your children and your families and their education and their health insurance and everything else, you have the privilege and the honor Of paying for millions who will flock there for said free privileges.

00:14:13.000 That's where we are in the United States.

00:14:15.000 Your American dream is dying because of these insane policies.

00:14:20.000 You are a second-class citizen in your own country.

00:14:24.000 You have to go work extra hard to make sure that others can benefit from your work for free while being there illegally.

00:14:36.000 And where's Biden during this invasion?

00:14:38.000 Of course, again, he's on vacation.

00:14:40.000 He's on perpetual vacation.

00:14:42.000 40% of his time in the presidency so far has been on vacation.

00:14:48.000 40% for the president of the United States.

00:14:50.000 I'm sure he's not a puppet just placed there to do the work of the radicals who are actually in charge.

00:14:56.000 Right, guys? Though to be fair...

00:15:01.000 Whether he's napping on the beach or napping in the White House, what difference does it make?

00:15:07.000 Biden couldn't run a lemonade stand, let alone a country.

00:15:10.000 The invasion of our nation wasn't the only thing that happened in 2023.

00:15:15.000 It was a monumental year.

00:15:17.000 The Democrats took the unprecedented step of not only indicting their chief political opponent, but removing him from several ballots.

00:15:26.000 We discussed this earlier with the Maine Secretary of State.

00:15:29.000 You saw what was going on in Colorado.

00:15:30.000 And while there's conservatives out there screeching that it's a victory that they put him back on the ballot while it's at the Supreme Court, the same leftist Secretary of State like you saw in Maine in Colorado will do that if the Supreme Court doesn't act appropriately.

00:15:45.000 I'm sure the left will be there intimidating them like they have.

00:15:49.000 And again, if we did that to them, it would be a major problem and people would go to jail.

00:15:53.000 But we don't live in a system of equal justice.

00:15:57.000 If that's the election interference we saw in an off year, removing the primary opponent, a former president of the United States, from the ballot and states, not based on a conviction, just based on, well, maybe there's something there somewhere down the line.

00:16:19.000 Imagine what sort of election interference we're going to see in 2024. 0.84

00:16:23.000 And 2023 was a year in which the world was set on fire with Hamas, their violent invasion of Israel, the rape and murder of women and children in the streets. 0.74

00:16:39.000 The heads of major universities, some of our, at least what I thought were formerly our finest institutions, taking the side of Hamas, not just the right of Palestinian people to exist, let's be clear, actually condoning the violent behavior. 0.93

00:16:55.000 We saw protests all over the United States, hundreds of thousands for the same thing.

00:17:04.000 You think we're the same country we were just a couple years ago?

00:17:07.000 I don't. And I'm sure those three point whatever million people coming across the border every year, I'm sure they're going to bring a lot of great morals and values.

00:17:18.000 I'm sure they'll assimilate nicely like none of the other people who've come that way have. 0.99

00:17:24.000 Virtually none. I'm sure there's two or three that they'll fact check me with, but that's what's nice about Rumble.

00:17:30.000 I don't think things are going to calm down in 2024.

00:17:33.000 In this year's address to China, President Xi Jinping promised a complete reunification of China and Taiwan.

00:17:43.000 I don't know about you guys, but I don't trust Joe Biden to handle that all that well.

00:17:48.000 He can't handle a flight of stairs.

00:17:51.000 And look who he has running our military.

00:17:55.000 The Pentagon now resembles an NBC green room.

00:18:01.000 Watch this transgender lieutenant colonel talk about how inclusivity is a national security issue, folks. 1.00

00:18:09.000 It is. They're going to be awesome on the battlefield.

00:18:12.000 I'm sure this has nothing to do with the recruitment crisis we face because actual patriotic Americans who do a good job and would be the people we'd want fighting for us probably don't want to fight for this.

00:18:26.000 Check it out. So, inclusion is a national security imperative.

00:18:33.000 We fight today and we are going to fight in the future using brain power.

00:18:39.000 And if that brain, who's going to revolutionize the way we fight in space, we fight in cyber, just happens to be in a trans body, you should want them all serving alongside me.

00:18:50.000 And for your organizations, it's the same way.

00:18:54.000 Those perspectives that we get from a diverse set of individuals, it's been talked about on stage a lot regarding the science behind high-performing teams.

00:19:02.000 We need those perspectives. But it's inclusion that actually drives that.

00:19:07.000 Because you can bring people in and if they don't feel safe to speak up, if they don't feel safe to bring their full selves to work, You're not going to get the value of the diversity.

00:19:18.000 So for us, it is absolutely critical to drive our future success as an organization and potentially on the battlefield.

00:19:25.000 And I think it's the same way for all of you because we can't leave that talent that is going to revolutionize the way we do business behind.

00:19:33.000 Yeah, folks, I'm sure that'll be great.

00:19:35.000 I'm sure that'll do wonders.

00:19:37.000 I'm sure Putin, Xi Jinping...

00:19:41.000 Our friendly dictators all over the world, the Ayatollahs and North Korea, I'm sure they watch that and they're laughing their asses off, like I was.

00:19:52.000 So here's my New Year's resolution, folks.

00:19:54.000 2024 is the year we retake the White House.

00:19:58.000 We regain our freedoms.

00:20:02.000 We put an end to the deep state and the nonsense and the lies and the manipulation and the never-ending wars.

00:20:11.000 How long can a country survive when more illegal immigrants flood our nation than we have babies born in it? 1.00

00:20:23.000 Can a country win wars where it doesn't know that there are two genders or that Making sure we're really inclusive of people who were literally labeled by doctors just a few short years ago as having mental issues are gonna be leaders on the field of battle.

00:20:44.000 I'm sure this is gonna work out wonderfully.

00:20:46.000 The cause of many of this nation's problems are simple.

00:20:51.000 It's Joe Biden. It's Democrat policy.

00:20:53.000 It's the radical puppet masters that are in charge.

00:20:56.000 It's the Marxists. Because again, this is not your parents' Democrat party.

00:21:01.000 It's not your grandparents' Democrat party, for sure.

00:21:05.000 The stalwarts of that party would be rolling over in their graves watching what's going on right now, but hopefully people wake up to the insanity.

00:21:13.000 They see what they're pushing.

00:21:15.000 They see calling Catholics around the country, concerned parents at PTA meetings, domestic terrorists, and labeling them as such.

00:21:24.000 They see the turning a blind eye to the violence from the radical left for years.

00:21:31.000 People get it. They see the insanity of Democrat policy and what that's done to our economy and to prices.

00:21:40.000 Oh yeah, don't worry. I'm sure the Fed's going to come in and try to bail out the Democrats. 0.99

00:21:43.000 They're going to try to do something temporarily, but it's only going to compound the problem in the future.

00:21:47.000 You know exactly what's coming.

00:21:49.000 They're going to do it all.

00:21:51.000 The solution, guys, is just this simple.

00:21:55.000 Evict Joe Biden from the White House.

00:21:58.000 Evict radical Democrat policy from our nation.

00:22:03.000 Right? And then we can have a Happy New Year.

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00:25:36.000 And... I hope you're in this.

00:26:00.000 It's going to be a brutal year.

00:26:02.000 But... This is the year we can take back our country, and I want you guys to be a part of that.

00:26:08.000 So thanks for everything. Thanks for following along.

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00:26:22.000 But we really appreciate it.

00:26:24.000 Thank you for being in this fight with us, and enjoy.

00:26:27.000 I'm so excited to be here with you guys.

00:26:31.000 This is unique to me.

00:26:32.000 Actually, strangely enough, probably the first time I've been actually nervous in a long time.

00:26:37.000 It's just so different. I'm used to getting up on a stage with a mic and talking to 10-15,000 people.

00:26:43.000 It's not a problem. We're at a unique place in our country, something that's probably never happened before or perhaps it's always been happening and we haven't been exposed to it as much.

00:26:54.000 So I'm super psyched to be doing this on a platform.

00:26:58.000 We're here again because we're at a crossroads.

00:27:01.000 I'm on Rumble because it's one of the few platforms that's out there that Right. 0.95

00:27:23.000 It's not coined by me.

00:27:25.000 It has... The person who coined it was kind of a controversial guy called Sam Francis, but it's a very powerful insight, and it describes really the reality that we have anarchy and lawlessness with respect to the sort of clients of the regime, the political allies of the regime, and you have really Tyranny with respect to ordinary middle-class conservative citizens.

00:27:54.000 The best example of it comes from your monologue.

00:27:57.000 Anarcho-tyranny is we don't prosecute looters, but we prosecute anyone who says anything offensive within a hundred miles of a drag queen story hour. 0.51

00:28:08.000 Alvin Bragg!

00:28:10.000 Talk about a subliterate.

00:28:12.000 You know, they talk about him as, you know, he created a novel prosecution.

00:28:17.000 I know we're mixing terms here, but he's not involved with anything like a novel.

00:28:22.000 This guy is involved with picture books.

00:28:25.000 This is subliterate. Yeah, there's nothing novel about it.

00:28:27.000 I mean, the only novel aspect of it is that it's a first...

00:28:32.000 In terms of the devolution of just polite society in America and everything we believe.

00:28:37.000 I will say, it's shocking to me.

00:28:40.000 Everything I believed America to be, so much of that is an illusion.

00:28:45.000 And I would have never known that from the outside.

00:28:48.000 That's why any insight I can give to be like, hey man, I've been a fly on the wall.

00:28:52.000 I've been in those rooms.

00:28:53.000 I've then seen the reporting about what was supposedly done in those rooms.

00:28:58.000 And there's not even a pretense...

00:29:01.000 Of like truth anymore, right?

00:29:02.000 You think like, hey, well maybe this guy interpreted a little bit differently.

00:29:05.000 It's like, no, no, no. Here's the narrative.

00:29:06.000 This is what we want. Here's our end objective.

00:29:08.000 It's no different than communist China, right? 0.54

00:29:10.000 Here's where we want to be.

00:29:13.000 So everything is open season between, you know, now and then to get to where we want to be.

00:29:19.000 It's like China, right? Like they'll steamroll their entire population because they want to be here in 50 years. 1.00

00:29:23.000 Right. I think?

00:29:43.000 Arguably subliterate.

00:29:44.000 I don't know if he can read.

00:29:45.000 That's an open question. But the thing about him is he was one of these guys just like the mayor of Chicago you're talking about.

00:29:52.000 His whole thing from the very beginning was, I'm not going to prosecute basically any offenses that are relevant to basic quality of life in the...

00:30:02.000 You know, for the people that I'm supposed to represent.

00:30:04.000 Murder and rape, I mean, like, it's fine. 0.95

00:30:06.000 But when it comes to a trivial document filing claim against fraud, which he couldn't even do because the statute of limitations ran out, so that's where the novelty comes in, but... 0.99

00:30:17.000 You know, when dumb people try to do creative things, the end result is even more ridiculous than you can imagine. 0.96

00:30:23.000 And that's why you had these people like John Bolton and others come out and say, my God, maybe we shouldn't outsource our domestic war on terror to this low kind of low IQ operatives. 0.99

00:30:37.000 But you see it in Alvin Bragg.

00:30:38.000 You see it. And it's not just with your father because it goes down the line.

00:30:42.000 Recently, I think you've talked about this.

00:30:44.000 Yeah.

00:30:48.000 Yeah. For memes.

00:31:05.000 By the way, up to 10 years in prison for memes.

00:31:08.000 Yes. In America, like, you know, First Amendment doesn't matter. 0.98

00:31:11.000 Again, he's going against the norm.

00:31:12.000 Now, there's plenty of people, literally exact same crime, on the other way against Donald Trump.

00:31:18.000 Exactly. Same thing. And it's like they don't even get prosecuted, let alone face 10 years in prison.

00:31:24.000 Right. I mean, Joe Biden's perhaps an example of what you're talking about in the sense that Joe Biden's so stupid He'll actually sign anything that the powers that be put in front of him. 0.99

00:31:34.000 So I actually think, like Alvin Bragg, I think is being a useful idiot to George Soros, and those likes, I think Joe Biden is actually that to Obama, Susan Rice, whoever's still in charge, because they were smart enough to preserve their legacies. 0.96

00:31:51.000 They may not agree with everything in America, but they weren't going to go against the American public and hurt their legacies and their abilities to buy... 0.90

00:31:59.000 You know, $15 million homes and Martha's Vineyard and all of this stuff.

00:32:02.000 They weren't going to quite do that, but they're more than happy to destroy Joe Biden's legacy by having him sign whatever it is that they want, and, you know, they get where we want. 0.94

00:32:11.000 So he's like the useful idiot, but frankly he was much more effective than the Obamas of the world because they don't care about protecting his name, image, and likeness for the future. 0.94

00:32:22.000 Right. Well, he's clearly an instrument, and there are underlying forces that are much more powerful than him. 0.99

00:32:29.000 I mean, the regime is really exhibiting itself in unprecedented ways.

00:32:35.000 And this has a lot of downstream effects.

00:32:38.000 For instance, you mentioned China.

00:32:41.000 It's always been kind of unique to America's self-understanding that we are kind of We're a moral nation, a moral exemplar to other countries.

00:32:50.000 We're a bastion of freedom.

00:32:51.000 And whether or not that's true in the past, it's always been an integral part of the way we've sold ourselves and marketed ourselves.

00:33:01.000 Affected foreign policy and diplomacy overseas.

00:33:05.000 Recently, an interesting tweet from this guy who's doing a lot of interesting work in El Salvador, Bukele, who's basically brought MS-13 to heel.

00:33:15.000 He correctly and I think very insightfully pointed out, How can America continue to say, you know, just recently, one of Biden's lackeys castigated Tunisia for daring to jail political opposition.

00:33:31.000 The same thing in Cambodia.

00:33:33.000 Wait a minute, guys! You know, we're, well, we're seeding the high ground, right?

00:33:38.000 There was a time where America had the moral high ground, and you could say that would never happen, America. 0.99

00:33:42.000 And yet, the Banana Republic shit That we call out and have been able to call out. 0.99

00:33:49.000 Like, you know, if I'm Putin, you sit there and be like, I don't know, guys. 0.99

00:33:51.000 Like, you know, I'm watching all the people who really hate Putin and really hate, you know, they're calling for regime.

00:33:57.000 I mean, wait a minute, but you're okay with them jailing Trump, though.

00:34:00.000 That's different. Trump's the exception that proves the Putin rule, right?

00:34:03.000 He's the political opposition, but it's okay because it's Trump.

00:34:07.000 Exactly. It's a very dangerous and bizarre trend.

00:34:12.000 And especially as conflict is gearing up with China, we don't really have that moral high ground that was available to us, say, in the Cold War with the Soviet Union, where Reagan could say, we're the free society, Soviet Union is basically the gulag.

00:34:29.000 In this case, It seems like there are two different authoritarian systems emerging.

00:34:36.000 There's the Chinese authoritarian system, and there's the system associated with what I call, not America, but the globalist American empire, which is just as authoritarian, is becoming so.

00:34:49.000 Plus drag queens. 1.00

00:34:50.000 It's just as authoritarian. 0.97

00:34:52.000 Plus all of these ridiculous things as we have the same basic underlying injury, but at least in China there's no insult. 0.95

00:35:01.000 And the insult added to the injury is the thing that makes our country ridiculous and I think is increasingly a laughing stock on the world stage.

00:35:10.000 And the other kind of serious point on this There's a real interesting tension emerging because it just is the same time as the national security state has basically declared war on conservative Americans.

00:35:23.000 It's conservatives that they'll rely upon to have this kind of battered wife syndrome To say, well, we're going to beat you down domestically, but the second we need you for another war, you're going to be the first to sign up. 1.00

00:35:38.000 Show me the money! Exactly. Well, but you see that.

00:35:39.000 And I've had, you know, all my friends, like, real operators and, you know, SEAL team guys, and they're saying, like, they're out there having these conversations, and they're telling me, like, I would never let my kids do this.

00:35:50.000 Like, these are guys that... You know, they literally bled for our country, but they would want their children to do the same, and like there's tradition of, you know, generations of people who fought wars for this country, and they're like, I wouldn't even think about it, because, you know, if you're trans, you'll become an admiral in about three seconds, and you can do that, and then while you're going, I had Ronnie Jackson on here talking about that, as someone who was an admiral, and, you know, in a medical profession, he was like, oh yeah, by the way, like, if you're going through the paid-for-by-the-US government gender-affirming surgery, like, Because of all the medications, you're not actually even allowed to be on active duty abroad,

00:36:24.000 so they give you a cushy office. 0.53

00:36:25.000 It's like, it's a huge scam.

00:36:28.000 You don't need to check them.

00:36:29.000 I served our country while sitting in a nice air-conditioned office with no intention to do that while the American taxpayer gets to pay for my gender reassignment surgery.

00:36:38.000 Who's going to go sign up for these things anymore?

00:36:41.000 It's amazing. It's like we were saying, becoming transgender is the ultimate life hack in America, and it's literally a hack, no pun intended. 1.00

00:36:50.000 As far as I'm concerned, and I say this being the son of a billionaire, I think it's the highest level of privilege if utilized Properly in America Day.

00:37:06.000 There's no school you can't get into.

00:37:09.000 There's no position that you're not checking off a box that they would love to fill.

00:37:14.000 And by the way, the more you're pretending it, the probably the better it is because you don't have the lunacy that goes along with so much of it, right?

00:37:20.000 So like, I feel it's the highest form of privilege in society today.

00:37:25.000 You can get into Harvard.

00:37:27.000 Then, just for kicks, you can join women's MMA. Just beat up a woman. 1.00

00:37:33.000 And they'll never throw you out. 0.98

00:37:35.000 Yeah, they'll celebrate you.

00:37:37.000 You're beyond question. You're beyond reproach.

00:37:39.000 Right. And, you know, you can always fall back, oh, you're being a racist, like everything else these days. 0.88

00:37:43.000 But where does it end?

00:37:46.000 Well, that's an interesting question.

00:37:48.000 I think these tensions are yet to be resolved.

00:37:51.000 I think, you know, your father stands as the most compelling symbolic representation of opposition to all these forces.

00:38:00.000 And it really is about your father.

00:38:01.000 You know, people talk about Trumpism after Trump.

00:38:05.000 I think that's a total scam.

00:38:07.000 The idea of Trumpism after...

00:38:08.000 It's a total scam because it's really the ploy to eliminate both Trumpism and Trump.

00:38:16.000 You know, there are a lot of kind of pseudo-sophisticates out there who think you can just...

00:38:21.000 Get the policy script and give it to anyone, that it's interchangeable.

00:38:26.000 That's not how political movements work.

00:38:29.000 There's a reason that the system is targeted against specific individual.

00:38:34.000 That individual happens to be the person who created and continues to lead one of the most powerful political movements in the nation's history.

00:38:42.000 All right, guys. Well, first off, I want to take the time to thank Tucker Carlson for joining us.

00:38:47.000 I know a lot of things are going on on your end, Tucker, right now, including launching literally a new media company taking on a lot of the establishment that's out there with the Tucker Carlson Network.

00:38:57.000 Now, you've done some big interviews lately.

00:39:00.000 Kid Rock, Dana White, Alex Jones.

00:39:03.000 But when are we going to see the interviews that we're all waiting for, like Brian Stelter, Zelensky, or even perhaps creepy porn lawyer Michael Avenatti?

00:39:13.000 I mean, that one may be the number one interview I want to see of all time based on episode one that we saw.

00:39:21.000 But, you know, it's hard to say of all of them who's the biggest grifter, but maybe it's Zelensky.

00:39:25.000 What do you think? I would love to interview him, and I can't do it in Ukraine.

00:39:30.000 I think I would be arrested there.

00:39:32.000 I'm not really afraid.

00:39:34.000 I mean, at this point, my kids are running.

00:39:35.000 I'm not really afraid of much. I don't think I should go to Ukraine, though.

00:39:39.000 So I'm not going to do that.

00:39:41.000 But I would love to interview Zelensky.

00:39:43.000 He's turned us down. Avenatti's in prison for many years.

00:39:48.000 We did just visit Julian Assange in prison, so I've interviewed people in prison before, but I don't know if he would sign off on us visiting.

00:39:56.000 We've got a bunch of interviews coming, but you're totally right.

00:39:59.000 And Stelter, that's a tough call.

00:40:02.000 I mean, first of all, I don't want to be in the same room as Stelter.

00:40:04.000 There's something very poisonous about that guy and kind of feline and scary.

00:40:09.000 Alex Jones was absolutely right about Brian Stelter.

00:40:12.000 It's not just that he's wrong.

00:40:13.000 It's that there's a lot of malice in Brian Stelter, a lot of repressed...

00:40:17.000 Well, a lot of things were repressed in Brian Seltzer, but a lot of repressed rage and hatred.

00:40:21.000 And he's a destroyer.

00:40:22.000 I agree with that. I've only talked to him by remote.

00:40:25.000 It feels like there's so much malice just in the media in general.

00:40:28.000 I mean, you are one of the people that really, you created Rachel Maddow, right?

00:40:32.000 You brought her on. You gave her a platform.

00:40:34.000 You've worked with Joe Scarborough.

00:40:37.000 You used to work for, you know, some pretty prominent figures in conservatism that have, you know, lost their minds.

00:40:45.000 Yeah. You know, what's going on there?

00:40:47.000 How'd that malice come about?

00:40:49.000 You know, I don't know.

00:40:51.000 I suspect it's personal.

00:40:52.000 I mean, I really think your politics grow out of whatever is inside you.

00:40:57.000 And in the case of Joe Scarborough specifically, I mean, I knew him really well, and I always admired his intelligence.

00:41:04.000 He's genuinely smart. He's not stupid at all.

00:41:06.000 Very clever guy. Very calculating guy. 0.71

00:41:09.000 But I think the burden of things that Joe has done And I'm not just talking about the murder he's been accused of.

00:41:16.000 I have my views on that.

00:41:17.000 I don't know whether he actually committed it or not.

00:41:19.000 He's been credibly accused of killing a girl, however.

00:41:22.000 I don't know if it's that or some things in his personal life, but whatever it is, that is a hater.

00:41:29.000 He's really transformed from a kind of thoughtful, clever, funny guy who had views To a guy who's just bent on destroying other people.

00:41:38.000 And I think, again, I think that grows out of the misery inside and the guilt that he feels over the things that he's done in his life, etc.

00:41:45.000 And a much healthier way to deal with that, I mean, all of us have done things we feel guilty about, I certainly have, is to admit them and kind of let them fall away, let the guilt fall away and just move forward as a whole person.

00:41:57.000 But someone like Scarborough just can't do it.

00:41:59.000 And it's bad for the country when people like that have national platforms, I think.

00:42:04.000 Do you think he's sort of doing the, like, become a Democrat spokesperson because there's actually a lot less accountability if you're doing the bidding of the left?

00:42:13.000 I mean, it feels like if you're a conservative, you know, Tucker Carlson, if you were an academic, would not be getting the same treatment at Harvard as Claudine Gay is at Harvard for the same thing, for the same gross incompetence, for plagiarism, etc.

00:42:25.000 I mean, is there a life jacket to doing the bidding of the radical left today?

00:42:31.000 There's no doubt about it, but I think it's bigger than partisan.

00:42:35.000 I mean, it's not just that Scarborough is a defender of the Democratic Party, which obviously he is, that whole channel is, but it's more than that.

00:42:42.000 He's an advocate for destroying things, for destroying families, individuals. 0.91

00:42:46.000 I mean, if you're arguing for castrating kids or for appointing like a flagrant moron like Claudine Gay to the presidency of Harvard, you know, the most famous prestigious university in the world, What are you doing? 0.98

00:42:59.000 Well, you're wrecking things. 0.98

00:43:01.000 You're breaking things that you didn't build.

00:43:02.000 You know, you're advocating for destruction.

00:43:05.000 If you're pushing some totally pointless foreign war like the war in Ukraine, Ukraine cannot win.

00:43:11.000 Then the only real effect is the total destruction of that country and an entire generation of men. 0.91

00:43:15.000 And if you're quarterbacking that, even in the face of the dead certain knowledge, it won't work. 0.61

00:43:21.000 But you're still calling for more Ukrainians to die.

00:43:24.000 What are you doing? Well, of course you're serving evil. 0.98

00:43:26.000 You're serving the destruction of other people and of institutions that were worth having but are now gone.

00:43:31.000 And that's kind of where Joe finds himself.

00:43:33.000 So I think it's deeper than partisan.

00:43:35.000 I think there's something spiritual going on here.

00:43:37.000 What about Bill Kristol? I mean, you started off, you know, working for him and he's taken that same approach.

00:43:43.000 But I mean, this is someone that at least at a time would have been a noted conservative scholar.

00:43:47.000 It feels like he's literally, you know, a full blown, not even like, you know, Kennedy type Democrat.

00:43:54.000 He's a full blown radical, you know, Marxist.

00:43:58.000 He is. And what's interesting about Crystal, he's very much like Claudine Gay. 0.61

00:44:02.000 Both are the beneficiaries of affirmative action, both occupy places they haven't earned and have reputations they didn't earn.

00:44:08.000 And neither one is a scholar. 0.55

00:44:10.000 Both are kind of midwits.

00:44:11.000 I mean, Crystal's above average intelligence, certainly not a genius, but neither one of them has ever written a book.

00:44:17.000 Bill Kristol is a scholar.

00:44:19.000 He's a PhD from Harvard, but he's never written a single book.

00:44:22.000 And he's not a good writer.

00:44:23.000 I mean, he had a column for the New York Times, which they canceled because he couldn't write a 750-word column twice a week.

00:44:29.000 So he's not that bright. 1.00

00:44:31.000 He's kind of dumb. I mean, he's smarter than most people probably, but he's hardly a genius. 0.99

00:44:36.000 He's hardly a scholar.

00:44:38.000 His whole life is a pose.

00:44:40.000 And he's really angry about it.

00:44:42.000 I mean, if you take someone and put him in a position he hasn't earned, he got there because of his dad, of course, Irving Kristol.

00:44:47.000 He was the son of a famous guy.

00:44:49.000 And you put him in this position and you give him accolades he hasn't earned, he knows that.

00:44:54.000 And so he feels bad about himself and he takes that rage out on other people.

00:44:58.000 And so Kristol doesn't really say, I mean, I worked for him for five and a half years, so I know what he's like.

00:45:03.000 Yeah. And he's a hater.

00:45:05.000 And he absolutely hates Christian conservatives, for sure, above all.

00:45:10.000 And once you understand that, you can kind of see what this is really about.

00:45:15.000 It's not about conservatism or helping America.

00:45:17.000 It's about crushing and suppressing certain people because of their religious faith and their ethnicity.

00:45:22.000 That's what he's really about.

00:45:24.000 Okay, so as someone who perhaps sits in a similar situation, right?

00:45:27.000 I have a father that's incredibly accomplished.

00:45:28.000 He's done things in all sorts of walks of life.

00:45:31.000 How would you view, what's your analysis of me as being different than that?

00:45:34.000 Because you've seen that that can destroy certain people.

00:45:37.000 So is my, when I go out there and fight for all these things, what's the, I'm curious to see what the Tucker analysis is on that one.

00:45:46.000 You want anonymous now?

00:45:47.000 Yeah, seriously. I'll give it to you. So you were born into a family that was famous for business, okay, and had a company with your name on it.

00:45:54.000 Be pretty easy to stay with that.

00:45:56.000 And that's probably not a good thing, actually.

00:45:58.000 I mean, if you're really into it and really great at it, do it.

00:46:01.000 But you did something that is your salvation and the salvation of all of us, which is you followed your gifts and your actual enthusiasms.

00:46:09.000 You're like, hmm, you know, the two things I love.

00:46:11.000 I love politics. And I love the outdoors.

00:46:14.000 I love hunting and fishing. And you decided to master those and you had a natural aptitude for it.

00:46:18.000 You left a more comfortable path, which was kind of guaranteed because literally your name's on the company.

00:46:23.000 And you're like, I'm going to go into this thing I've never done before, but I just love it.

00:46:26.000 Your dad runs for president. You get hauled out as a surrogate.

00:46:29.000 You don't have a ton of experience in it.

00:46:31.000 You know, like, wow, this just feels right.

00:46:33.000 I'm really passionate. And that's why you're like a normal person who's not controlled by your insecurities.

00:46:41.000 As distinct from someone like Claudine Gay, who's like, oh, shit, I'm the president of Harvard. 0.99

00:46:45.000 I'm not very smart. 1.00

00:46:46.000 And she knows she's an imposter. 0.99

00:46:48.000 Same with Bill Kristol. You're like, no, I love this.

00:46:52.000 People can feel it on you.

00:46:54.000 You know, people are like, well, You know, it's so brutal.

00:46:56.000 All the investigations. I was like, no, no, no.

00:46:58.000 I got a chance to sort of remake myself in my late 30s.

00:47:00.000 Not everyone gets that chance.

00:47:02.000 So it is unique.

00:47:03.000 And it was sort of like as brutal as it's been, as costly as it's been.

00:47:06.000 You know, it was definitely easier being the son of a beloved billionaire in New York City, right?

00:47:10.000 You go to all the cool people parties.

00:47:12.000 That was easy. This is harder, but it's much more meaningful.

00:47:18.000 But you genuinely like it, so that's the key.

00:47:22.000 If you take a man and you force him down a path he's not suited for, and that he doesn't really love, you'll destroy that man.

00:47:29.000 You know, you've got to do things, and we're talking off air, in your personal life, like you're deeply committed to your non-professional interests, like you really love them.

00:47:37.000 And that's another sign of balance and health, is someone who's not only about his job, who cares about other things, like his family, or In your case, hunting and fishing.

00:47:46.000 And I share those loves, so I know it.

00:47:48.000 But it could be anything.

00:47:49.000 It could be you're a secret watercolorist or you love to sing opera or whatever.

00:47:54.000 As long as it's real, as long as it's your actual passion and ability, then you'll make it.

00:48:00.000 You'll survive. You won't be distorted.

00:48:02.000 But Bill Kristol, you know, he's posing as a writer.

00:48:05.000 He literally can't write.

00:48:06.000 Like, imagine the hell of that.

00:48:08.000 That's got to be pretty brutal.

00:48:09.000 I mean, I'm not a writer, but I got a couple of bestsellers, so I guess I'm doing better than Bill Kristol.

00:48:13.000 Yeah. So you've transcended, you know, it's not just politics anymore.

00:48:18.000 You're dealing with businessmen.

00:48:20.000 You're dealing with pop culture.

00:48:22.000 You've figured out how to meld all of those things together.

00:48:25.000 So, you know, who's the smartest of all the people that you've sat down with?

00:48:30.000 Who's that smartest business person, politician, whatever it may be that you've interacted with? 0.98

00:48:36.000 And then conversely, who's the dumbest that, you know, people may not think would be dumb? 0.99

00:48:40.000 Yeah. That's such a great question. 0.99

00:48:43.000 I've been thinking a lot about this. So I grew up like you in an affluent zip code and lived in one my whole life until a few years ago, lived in D.C. for 35 years.

00:48:52.000 And there's this massive premium on IQ. You're smart.

00:48:55.000 That's like the highest compliment you can pay a person.

00:48:58.000 He's smart. And I really have come to see the limitations in that.

00:49:02.000 I think IQ matters and it's real and it's mostly hereditary.

00:49:05.000 That's all true. However, that's not really the measure of a man both morally or in the marketplace even.

00:49:13.000 The most successful businessmen I know are not the ones who had the highest scores in the SAT. They're the wisest.

00:49:20.000 Wisdom is the goal, not intelligence.

00:49:22.000 Wisdom. There are an infinite number of possibilities in front of you.

00:49:26.000 Which do you choose? That can't be calculated by a McKinsey formula.

00:49:30.000 You can't call BSG to figure that out for you.

00:49:33.000 You need to know it on a gut level and you need to obey what you know.

00:49:37.000 You need to follow your own instincts.

00:49:40.000 I mean, Dana White comes to mind as one of them.

00:49:43.000 Is Dana White, did he get a higher score in the SAT than, you know, I don't know, pick your corporate chieftain?

00:49:48.000 Probably not. But when, as Mike Tyson famously said, everybody got a plan until I get hit in the face.

00:49:54.000 And when Dana White got hit in the face during COVID, he zagged when everyone else zigged.

00:50:00.000 He went in the opposite direction.

00:50:01.000 But you can't do that. And he's like, no, no, no, I have to do this.

00:50:04.000 And he did it. And it made his sport predominant.

00:50:07.000 It's when the crisis hits, that's when you know who somebody is. 1.00

00:50:11.000 All the rest of it is just bullshit. 0.97

00:50:13.000 All the rest of it is just the product of some meeting where smart people got together to play in the future. 0.99

00:50:18.000 And none of it means a thing.

00:50:19.000 It's only when there's a true crisis, like someone leaks your Access Hollywood video or COVID hits or whatever.

00:50:26.000 How do you behave then?

00:50:28.000 And so those are the guys I respect a lot. 1.00

00:50:31.000 Who are the dumbest? Oh, I mean, the guys who run AB, I would say, have to be, I mean, basically, the people who run General Motors, are you joking? 0.98

00:50:40.000 It's like, oh, we're not going to sell you trucks anymore that run on gasoline or diesel?

00:50:46.000 Are you kidding? That's your whole business.

00:50:48.000 Like, anyone who gets talked into something insane, and I will say, my father used to say this when we were kids, he would say all the really bad ideas come from the geniuses.

00:50:58.000 Because they're so counterintuitive.

00:51:00.000 They're so against nature.

00:51:01.000 They're so against the natural order and what's obvious that you really need to be an intellectual to fall for them.

00:51:06.000 And so like, hey, I have an idea. 0.88

00:51:08.000 Let's get rid of money and reorganize the society on an agrarian basis and murder everyone who wears eyeglasses. 1.00

00:51:17.000 That was the Khmer Rouge program. 0.98

00:51:18.000 But it wasn't conceived by peasants.

00:51:21.000 It was conceived by schoolteachers and intellectuals.

00:51:24.000 The smartest people in Cambodia came up with the killing fields. 1.00

00:51:27.000 Of course, the peasants never would have come up with something like that.

00:51:30.000 They'd be like, well, some people need eyeglasses. 0.99

00:51:32.000 They never could have convinced themselves of something that dumb. 0.97

00:51:36.000 Well, no, I mean, that's manifesting itself so much right now where you see sort of the illusion of academia. 0.99

00:51:43.000 At Harvard, you realize, well, no, everything's a DEI program.

00:51:46.000 You can't get in there. The feeling I had for my Penn and Wharton diploma, it doesn't mean anything anymore.

00:51:53.000 It's something 10 years ago I would have been proud of.

00:51:55.000 Today, you realize, we even had a saying back then, B is for billionaire, because you're right.

00:51:59.000 The guys that figured out a system did a lot better than the guys that were so brilliant.

00:52:03.000 They got A's in everything, but they never really...

00:52:05.000 You know, they were always trapped within that.

00:52:08.000 And you talk about this sort of general thing where, you know, the fake white-collar economy, right? 0.60

00:52:15.000 COVID lockdowns sort of exposed it more than ever.

00:52:18.000 And, you know, when your whole job is reduced down to, you know, sitting in your bed in your boxer shorts, you know, unlike a couple people maybe pleasuring themselves on conference calls, former colleagues of yours and, you know, competitors in the media space, you know, What's going on with that?

00:52:33.000 It's sort of a reality check when we realize what's happening in our lives in corporate America.

00:52:40.000 We have fake email jobs that don't really matter.

00:52:43.000 You've talked about this a lot, but I think it has a drastic effect on losing the sense of meaning and purpose that is such a big part of people's day-to-day life.

00:52:54.000 How do you see what's going on there right now?

00:52:57.000 Well, I think it's all fruit from the same tree.

00:53:00.000 It's all the product of generational affluence.

00:53:03.000 And you see this in families, most obviously.

00:53:07.000 There's the innovator, the hard worker, the bootstrap guy who creates the business, makes the family fortune, and then the family becomes successively less.

00:53:16.000 Impressive with every generation.

00:53:17.000 And I have to say, since you invited it, you asked me to analyze you and your family.

00:53:21.000 Looking back, the best thing that ever happened to your family probably was the suffering that you've gone through, the loss of money that you guys have gone through in the last five years.

00:53:30.000 That gives you purpose and gives you meaning and sharpens you and makes you live a purposeful life because you have no choice. 0.99

00:53:38.000 If that doesn't happen, if you just live off trust disbursements every month, and I've seen this, frankly, in my own family, but I've seen it in many other families, You become contemptible and you become weak and silly and ridiculous and you don't even know it. 0.98

00:53:54.000 And in the end, you become self-destructive. 0.98

00:53:56.000 And that is the story of rich families.

00:53:57.000 The fourth generation is always killing themselves. 1.00

00:53:59.000 You know what I mean? With alcoholism or whatever, literally shooting themselves. 0.89

00:54:03.000 So that's true in countries as well. 0.56

00:54:05.000 And so if you have, you know, 80 years of uninterrupted economic growth and prosperity, which is the story of America after 1945, Then, of course, you're going to get to a place where the entire ruling class is so decadent and silly and can't see themselves clearly enough to know that, that it's going to come tumbling down.

00:54:24.000 I mean, it's that strong men make good times aphorism is actually real.

00:54:29.000 And I'm just sorry that my children have to live in the middle of it.

00:54:32.000 I kind of like the world I grew up in.

00:54:34.000 But you broke out of it.

00:54:35.000 I mean, you and I are that way as well, right?

00:54:37.000 You grew up in a—you had—your father was like an ambassador and high up in the government and did these things.

00:54:43.000 You grew up in a D.C. sort of environment around that, just like I grew up—you know, I'm supposed to go to Penn and, you know, graduate from Wharton and be a liberal in New York City, go to the rich people parties, and yet— I mean, I guess we sort of both broke out of that.

00:54:57.000 We had personas that were very different in our real lives.

00:55:01.000 You know, what made you sort of go counterculture to sort of, you know, your predetermined destiny that, you know, that should have happened and sort of engulfs 95% of probably the kids that we grew up with?

00:55:12.000 Well, I mean, two things.

00:55:14.000 One was just temperamental, like I'm just too arrogant or something.

00:55:17.000 I just didn't want to have to repeat the slogans.

00:55:20.000 I want to say what I think is true.

00:55:21.000 I don't have to say everything I think is true. 0.99

00:55:23.000 I don't have the need to, like, spill all my thoughts, some of which are stupid and crazy, probably. 0.98

00:55:27.000 But I didn't want to have to repeat someone else's bumper sticker. 0.98

00:55:30.000 And, like, over time, I just wouldn't.

00:55:31.000 I'm not doing that. Okay, so that was the first thing.

00:55:34.000 And the second thing, which is even more transformative, is I realized that the world that these people were aspiring to or occupying wasn't that great, actually.

00:55:44.000 Highly overrated. It's so overrated.

00:55:48.000 How much room service can you eat?

00:55:50.000 How many weeks can you spend in St.

00:55:52.000 Bart's? Is flying private really that awesome?

00:55:55.000 It's fine. It's not that great, actually.

00:55:57.000 And what I really loved, speaking for myself, was nature.

00:56:01.000 I mean this from my heart.

00:56:03.000 I would be a lot happier in a cabin, which I have with no electricity or running water, than I would be at the Four Seasons fill-in-the-blank exotic destination.

00:56:12.000 I just really felt that way. I just, I appreciated the beauty of the natural world far more than I appreciated the trappings of wealth.

00:56:21.000 And so you realize like the thing that everybody wants in the end, you know, it's better than grinding poverty.

00:56:26.000 It's better than being in debt, I think, of course, but it's not that great and it's not salvation.

00:56:33.000 And for me, what really was salvation, this sounds cheesy, but I really mean it, was to be like fishing with my kids on a stream with no one else around.

00:56:40.000 Like that was the highest level for me.

00:56:42.000 And remains, or bird hunting with my dogs, who I really, really love, and I see my dogs working in this weird ballet in the quail field, and I'm like, I don't think I've ever been happier.

00:56:51.000 So once you decide that that's what you want, then none of this other shit means anything at all.

00:56:56.000 It's like, what are you going to give me to obey? 0.96

00:56:58.000 I don't want what you have, actually, and I mean it.

00:57:00.000 What are the games that they're going to try to do?

00:57:03.000 They see this coming. They see the polling.

00:57:06.000 They see the populist uprising, not just here, not just with, you know, youth that would, you know, historically have been far more favorable to the Democrats.

00:57:15.000 You say it with African Americans. 0.90

00:57:17.000 I'd love to believe it, but I do see it differently.

00:57:19.000 You know, I see it when I speak at these things.

00:57:22.000 There's a security guard in the back be like, hey, man, we've been lifelong Democrats. 1.00

00:57:26.000 We're sick of this crap. So, you know, it's always sort of the holy grail. 0.98

00:57:29.000 You think it's going to happen this time in our administration.

00:57:33.000 You know, the administration, they did a lot for that.

00:57:35.000 Didn't really change it a little bit.

00:57:36.000 He did better than other Republicans.

00:57:38.000 But I think now the persecution, the multiple, as you said, 700,000, whatever it is, years in jail, you know, people are getting it.

00:57:47.000 And they realize that You know, they're in line as well.

00:57:50.000 They're going to come after him.

00:57:51.000 So how hard are they going to press to have this happen?

00:57:54.000 Or they say, hey, it's four years.

00:57:56.000 We're not going to play those games.

00:57:58.000 And we'll take it over then.

00:58:00.000 You see any scenario, any scenario, That they would allow Donald J. Trump to return to 1600 Pennsylvania.

00:58:07.000 That's why I ask myself every day.

00:58:09.000 Not even a little bit.

00:58:10.000 I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

00:58:13.000 I know better because I know what they tried to do to me and everyone else in my family.

00:58:16.000 This is my point.

00:58:18.000 Trump has this movement, and he's the first to admit this, this movement that he's led and innovated is bigger than him.

00:58:26.000 He's got not just a political movement, this has now become a cultural movement.

00:58:30.000 You could see that in South Carolina the other day.

00:58:33.000 You could see this at the UFC fights.

00:58:35.000 You could see it anywhere you go and talk on the streets with the signs, with everything.

00:58:39.000 He is leading now the most fundamental, important political, cultural movement in the nation for people of every economic class, every ethnicity, race, religion to say yes.

00:58:52.000 We want to return America to her former greatness, and we know we have a struggle to do it.

00:58:57.000 But this is the guy that's the armor-piercing shell.

00:58:59.000 And let's break it down to three things, how they're going to stop that.

00:59:01.000 Because I think they've got three verticals.

00:59:03.000 They're all going to converge on a point to stop Trump.

00:59:05.000 Number one is to use lawfare.

00:59:08.000 I mean, think about it for a second. Just step back and think about it.

00:59:11.000 For a guy who gave us four years – and I don't care if you hate the sound of his voice.

00:59:15.000 Just look at the empirical evidence in a chaotic world of anarchy.

00:59:21.000 Right? And destruction. He gave us four years of peace and prosperity.

00:59:25.000 And I mean real prosperity.

00:59:27.000 People don't give him credit that you talk about the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve being nine trillion dollars today.

00:59:32.000 When President Trump took over, it was three and a half.

00:59:34.000 It was only 880 billion when Obama took over.

00:59:36.000 He added all those trillions, as you remember, to put liquidity in the system.

00:59:40.000 President Trump, by 18 and 19, had 3.5% growth, the lowest unemployment, low interest rates, no inflation, and he took a trillion dollars, yelling as the Federal Reserve took a trillion dollars of liquidity off the balance sheet.

00:59:53.000 He had a headwind that he was doing it because he wanted to deflate the asset bubble.

00:59:57.000 He gave us peace.

00:59:58.000 He gave us prosperity, right?

01:00:00.000 And that's not easy in a chaotic world.

01:00:03.000 Now, to that, number one, the 700 years in prison, I mean, we mock it, but they're serious about it.

01:00:10.000 Oh yeah, no, no, no. It's not a joke.

01:00:12.000 If they could do it, they would do it.

01:00:14.000 I mean, it's laughable because you're like, people can't even figure out the crimes.

01:00:18.000 Like New York, they want to fine them a billion dollars, but there's no actual victim, right?

01:00:22.000 The banks are saying, like, what are you talking about?

01:00:24.000 Of course we do our own due diligence.

01:00:25.000 Of course we got paid back. There wasn't a payment missed.

01:00:28.000 We made hundreds of millions in interest.

01:00:30.000 But it doesn't matter because you have a radical, Democrat, partisan attorney general that will say it...

01:00:35.000 Doesn't matter. John Jr., of all of them, I think New York's the most egregious.

01:00:39.000 Because New York, I'm sitting there going, I did this for 30 years of my life at Goldman Sachs, my own firm.

01:00:45.000 I go, it looks like pretty normal course of business, what the Trump Organization did.

01:00:49.000 At Goldman Sachs, did you ever not do diligence?

01:00:51.000 And by the way... Even in post like Sarbanes-Oxley 2002, post 2008 crisis, if a major bank like Deutsche Bank, you know, trillion dollar bank, if they didn't do diligence, the opening that they would have for class action lawsuits from any investor or any...

01:01:09.000 Would be ludicrous.

01:01:11.000 So the whole notion is absolutely insane.

01:01:13.000 But that's the point, Steve, I guess.

01:01:15.000 And it's probably the point you're making, which is it doesn't matter.

01:01:18.000 And the fact that the judge is so blatant about they just want to get to his assets and stripping.

01:01:21.000 But let's go back to the criminal charges.

01:01:23.000 We had people on today, because I'm trying to go through battleground state by battleground state, about how we're not secure for this election right now to actually close the deal and make sure we get the deal.

01:01:33.000 You're going to win like you did in 2020 with 74 million votes that we have to close.

01:01:38.000 And quite frankly, it's a little chaotic.

01:01:40.000 In Fulton County, it's absurd of what's going on there.

01:01:42.000 They still get criminal charges.

01:01:44.000 The judge in D.C. is locked in on a 4 March start.

01:01:51.000 It would normally take years, years to get these things going.

01:01:55.000 They've taken this process and they want to either through opportunity costs,

01:02:00.000 so he can't focus, he can't campaign, to either take all the money out of the campaign, out of

01:02:03.000 the spending on lawyers, or, you know, maybe just grind him down in the process

01:02:08.000 and take his mind off running for president.

01:02:10.000 It's absolutely egregious.

01:02:11.000 That's their first line.

01:02:12.000 It's hardcore lawfare.

01:02:14.000 And also at that to take the 14th Amendment.

01:02:16.000 And these 14th Amendment cases are jokes legally, but they're not jokes for political psyops.

01:02:22.000 Correct. Because they want to dominate local media with maybe Trump is an insurrection.

01:02:26.000 You see, look at Denver media.

01:02:28.000 When this trial, the trial was an absolute joke.

01:02:30.000 Kash Patel went in there and eviscerated it.

01:02:32.000 This is why I think Speaker Johnson has to come back.

01:02:35.000 And we need two things.

01:02:36.000 We need serious action on the impeachment of Biden, not for political retribution, We need to do this because we can't let foreign powers like the CCP and whoever these crooks are in Ukraine be funneling money back into politicians that are doing their bidding.

01:02:51.000 Number one, that has to be out there.

01:02:53.000 Number two, I think Speaker Johnson has to reconstitute the J6 committee.

01:02:57.000 The footage alone and what President Trump, if you look at Kash Patel's testimony, President Trump went out of his way to ensure there would be a safe capital.

01:03:06.000 Bowser and Pelosi and others went out of the way to make sure there wasn't a safe capital.

01:03:11.000 That has to be adjudicated in a formal process.

01:03:13.000 We need J6, and this time, we have to let the Democrats have a ranking member, and we have to have minority counsel.

01:03:21.000 They have to see the evidence and cross-examine the witnesses.

01:03:23.000 You can't have Cassie Hutchinson up there We're talking crazy talk and not be cross-examined. 0.95

01:03:29.000 Any witness that would come forward has to be crossed by the Democrats.

01:03:32.000 And what you're going to see is the American people all of a sudden are going to see about a Fed's erection, are going to see how this was all fixed on January 6th.

01:03:39.000 That is going to be the next part of the Great Awakening, and that's where the push.

01:03:42.000 The other thing is, they had an article in The Washington Post about the RNC, and the RNC saying, oh yeah, we're broke, but we're in 70 lawsuits. 0.63

01:03:50.000 Mark Elias, the demon, And look, he's brilliant, he's cunning, he's smart like a serpent, but he's a demon.

01:03:56.000 He says, by the way, we're involved in 650 lawsuits, and the Republican Party's only named in 28.

01:04:02.000 These guys don't know what they're doing.

01:04:04.000 The Mark Elias is the world, and he gave the roadmap For how 2020 was going to be stolen.

01:04:09.000 He put out the Transition Integrity Project, which Bill McGinley, Rahim Kassan broke down.

01:04:14.000 We went around the country, most of it in Zoom because of the pandemic.

01:04:18.000 But he walked through the mail-in ballots.

01:04:20.000 They walked through actually how they were going to steal the election in broad daylight.

01:04:24.000 This is going to happen again.

01:04:26.000 They have taken a blood oath among themselves.

01:04:29.000 That no matter how Trump does it and how Trump gets to the victory, he will never set foot back in the White House again.

01:04:36.000 Because they understand day one is the deconstruction of the administrative state.

01:04:41.000 It's the ripping apart of the rogue element of the deep state.

01:04:43.000 It's setting Wall Street and Silicon Valley back in the proper places.

01:04:47.000 It's the reinstitution of a program to return America to reform a greatness and make the citizen America first and American citizens first.

01:04:57.000 And they will fight that to their death, okay, to stop President Trump coming back.

01:05:02.000 That's why when people talk about support in an election, this is more than an election.

01:05:06.000 This is actually the taking back of the country from the powers that have driven it to the ground.

01:05:11.000 And that's why 2024, 25, 26 are going to be like no three or four years in American history.

01:05:19.000 Yeah, like, talk a little bit about it, because you're right with Elias and the lawfare and the things that they're doing, but, you know, talk about, you know, you had to deal with this from, you know, the administration standpoint and dealing with the RNC, and you understand those are different things, but, you know, what do you make out about that report saying they're low in cash, they can't raise money? Because, I mean, it feels like, I see it for the campaign, there's a lot of enthusiasm for Trump.

01:05:41.000 You know, talk about that delta so people understand the differences, and what are the changes you'd make?

01:05:45.000 First off, Don, you're going to think about it.

01:05:47.000 In the next 10 days, we have Fox News and Hannity putting on a national debate with Ron DeSantis and Newsom, like national figures and some presidential kind of mock presidential debate to put them out in front of the country as actually guys that can lead this country, which is outrageous. A week after that, They're in Alabama again, the RNC being dead broke.

01:06:09.000 And this is not me saying this or Don Jr.

01:06:11.000 This is the Washington Post going through their numbers and showing they got $9 million cash on hand and no small donors because nobody watches your show or watches our show going to hit you with a 50.

01:06:20.000 They'll hit Trump with a 50 dollar bill, but they're not hitting the RNC. They're putting on another bogus debate.

01:06:26.000 Which nobody watches for the simple reason if they feel that if some existential event like J6 or something like that hits Trump or the bankruptcy trial, they've got somebody ready to go.

01:06:40.000 They can push either harder. But more importantly, they want to consolidate that 15% of Republican voters are just...

01:06:46.000 Traditional Romney types that are anti-Trump.

01:06:49.000 They want to consolidate that around a Nikki Haley type and drive it all the way through the primary process, and then in July of 2024, force Nikki Haley onto the ticket as Trump's running mate and let her try to run the administration from number two. 0.98

01:07:03.000 Now, that's not going to happen, but that's their plan.

01:07:06.000 That would be a disaster.

01:07:08.000 She ought to resign.

01:07:10.000 My candidate to run the RNC is you.

01:07:12.000 It's been you since back to the end.

01:07:14.000 No, it should have been you immediately upon winning in 16.

01:07:18.000 We made a huge mistake letting Ronna take this from Reince.

01:07:21.000 She's been a total disaster. 0.99

01:07:23.000 It's time now for a business guy that can step up there that people respond to, particularly if they don't get the small donor They don't get the small donor program up and running again.

01:07:33.000 RNC has no chance. It has no cash.

01:07:35.000 It has $9 million of cash right now, and it's bleeding out cash on things like this bogus debate in Alabama, and they're going to do another one, and they're going to do another one, and they're going to do another one, all to stop Trump.

01:07:47.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I'm watching the debates, and it was interesting.

01:07:49.000 I was talking to a good friend of yours, Andy Sarabian, earlier today, and I'm like, you know, I feel like, you know, we're like 50 days out from Iowa caucuses, and it's like, honestly, it sounds like people are bored.

01:08:02.000 Like, it's sort of a foregone conclusion, and it's one thing to have the debates if there was something, right?

01:08:08.000 I get it when, you know...

01:08:09.000 When Ron DeSantis influencers, you know, made it, you know, clipped him to turn him into a legend and whatever.

01:08:14.000 And then I was like, just wait till you see him in long form.

01:08:16.000 I can assure you it won't be nearly as good as when they do like a five second clip.

01:08:20.000 Turns out I was right. The second he actually had to take the mic, you know, it was a nosedive.

01:08:26.000 But you're right. They're forcing these debates for, I mean, at this point it's, It's like, for a distant second place, or maybe, you know, for the future dog catcher position, it is lunacy.

01:08:38.000 They're doing it. I mean, they're all-time low viewership, but worse, they're going to, like, MSDNC and NBC News.

01:08:45.000 They're going to liberal places with liberal moderators Trying to get them to have a floor plate to dump on conservative values for these guys.

01:08:56.000 And everyone's going for it hook, line, and sinker.

01:08:58.000 I mean, it doesn't make any sense.

01:09:00.000 It makes no sense.

01:09:02.000 It only makes sense, and by the way, Swerby is one of the smartest guys in politics I know.

01:09:06.000 But your thing about being bored, first, I want to miss this.

01:09:09.000 Vander Plaats, in the old days, a Vander Plaats endorsement, it would be the political talk for a week.

01:09:15.000 Yeah. Right? No one gives a crap who he is.

01:09:17.000 No one gives a crap. No difference whatsoever. 0.98

01:09:19.000 I think anybody's paying attention to it now.

01:09:21.000 Your father's beating on him, right?

01:09:22.000 If your father didn't beat on him, it would be crickets, total crickets.

01:09:25.000 Nobody cares. And the reason is they know DeSantis.

01:09:28.000 And Rove the other day, I think, gave the Murdoch warning to DeSantis that, dude, if you don't win in Iowa, you've got to get out.

01:09:35.000 They want to clear the field for Nikki Haley right now.

01:09:37.000 They feel Christie performed his function.

01:09:40.000 DeSantis didn't have it.

01:09:42.000 They're all over Nikki Haley.

01:09:43.000 And you saw the other day in the football stadium, right?

01:09:47.000 I mean, come on. I mean, President Trump, Bigfooter, it's just not going to happen.

01:09:51.000 All of these debates right now, everything they're doing in this fake primary is to try to either slow Trump down, I think actually help Biden or Newsom.

01:10:00.000 I mean, it can't be random that Hannity and Fox are having Newsom on in a national debate to try to promote him as a national candidate.

01:10:08.000 So everything is to do slow down President Trump, hurt President Trump, or...

01:10:12.000 In addition, make sure that a Nikki Haley type sits there and starts to negotiate in July, oh, we can bring the party together, but we have to have a say-so in the administration, which cannot happen. 0.96

01:10:23.000 She's absolutely poisonous, and she's more ambitious than Lucifer, as Milton said. 0.96

01:10:31.000 You know, hey, it's Rumble, so I'll say it. 0.99

01:10:33.000 Imagine how much motherfucking would go on if it was Nikki Haley and her team, what they'd be trying to do to Trump behind his back from literally, like, first, second, like, to position herself for 2028. 0.99

01:10:43.000 I mean, listen, hey, that would be brutal. 0.98

01:10:47.000 But no, you're 100% right.

01:10:48.000 Also, hold it, hold it. Hang on.

01:10:49.000 You're not going to get up so easy. You're going to hit the bid here on the RNC? No, listen, I'm with you.

01:10:55.000 It's not working.

01:10:57.000 You know, it's not working.

01:10:59.000 There does have to be a change.

01:11:02.000 You need to satisfy the people.

01:11:04.000 The problem is this. The RNC, when we got into this in 16, they did a great job.

01:11:09.000 They had an operation. They did this.

01:11:10.000 But, like, they too weren't really looking for it.

01:11:12.000 You and I were both there. Because you and I were the only people that spoke up.

01:11:17.000 It was 16.

01:11:18.000 It was a couple weeks before the election.

01:11:21.000 October. And you had the Axis Hollywood tapes.

01:11:23.000 Billy Bush weekend. Billy Bush weekend.

01:11:25.000 That was a long fucking weekend, okay? 0.99

01:11:28.000 And I get it, but it was a long weekend only because we believe what the news told us still at that point in time. 0.98

01:11:34.000 And we sat there and my dad...

01:11:35.000 By the way, I give a hat tip to Jared because Jared actually got – remember, we rented the Hilton Ballroom to try to tell candidate Trump at the time, don't do the ABC interview.

01:11:45.000 We can get 1,000 red hats into the Hilton Ballroom in Midtown.

01:11:50.000 But there was three of us that basically said you got to throw down – the RNC wanted to cut and run and have what? 0.99

01:11:55.000 Yeah, no, RNC literally said – You should just get out now and concede and lose, or you'll lose in two weeks and it'll be worse.

01:12:02.000 I mean, I remember that was Reince Priebus.

01:12:03.000 And I'm sitting there being like, wait, I don't know.

01:12:06.000 I'm not getting out of a fight.

01:12:07.000 We got two weeks. It may suck. 0.97

01:12:09.000 It could be brutal, but we ain't quitting now.

01:12:12.000 I spent way too many hours all over the place, all on the road, to sit there and give up 10 days out.

01:12:18.000 And so you and I were the ones being like, I can't even believe we're having this conversation.

01:12:25.000 And he didn't.

01:12:27.000 By the way, I love rights.

01:12:28.000 That was the biggest not knowing how to read the room.

01:12:32.000 Trump, he sits there and goes, you can either drop out now or you're going to lose by the biggest landslide in history.

01:12:37.000 We're like three weeks out. I mean, Trump's a fighter.

01:12:39.000 You know, what are you going to do? You're going to walk away with three weeks to go over some locker room.

01:12:44.000 Remember, we said locker room.

01:12:45.000 Yeah, no, that was where locker room talk came up.

01:12:48.000 It's 100% right.

01:12:50.000 But listen, I still remember the press was brutal.

01:12:53.000 Everyone's crushing you. It was all they had.

01:12:55.000 And I remember I went back on the road on Monday, and it was actually to Iowa.

01:13:00.000 And I gave a speech, and it was like, you know me, I'm usually pretty high energy.

01:13:03.000 This was less than high energy.

01:13:05.000 I was sort of lackluster.

01:13:06.000 I was, you know, you didn't want to be there. 1.00

01:13:09.000 You think you're getting your ass kicked. 0.99

01:13:10.000 And three ladies, like proper, you know, good God-fearing Iowa patriotic ladies, pulled me aside after the speech. 0.99

01:13:18.000 Sugar, I know why you're upset and you're not that high energy today.

01:13:23.000 Honestly, my girlfriends and I had 10 times that conversation earlier today. 0.99

01:13:30.000 And it was like, oh, no one gives a shit. 0.97

01:13:33.000 You only cared because the media turned it into a big deal. 0.99

01:13:37.000 Everyone has had these conversations, maybe with the exception of Bob Van Der Plaats, 0.99

01:13:41.000 but again, no one gives a shit about Bob Van Der Plaats. 0.98

01:13:43.000 Those people are irrelevant in the party. 0.95

01:13:45.000 So in 16, when the establishment was 90% of the party, that methodology maybe worked.

01:13:54.000 Today, 90% of the party is America first.

01:13:57.000 They could care less about Republican Party or if the RNC collapsed as an institution,

01:14:02.000 they wouldn't care.

01:14:03.000 Now, there are components of it.

01:14:05.000 There are things that, you need that to be a functioning system.

01:14:09.000 So listen, you need to get that going because also, hey, and I can tell you from experience,

01:14:15.000 I don't want to win the presidency if I don't think we can also win the House and the Senate

01:14:20.000 because my life will be four more years of Russia, Russia, Russia version 2.0 or 12.0 at this point.

01:14:26.000 It'll be impeachment after impeachment.

01:14:28.000 You know, I gotta win the House races too.

01:14:30.000 I want to win school board races.

01:14:33.000 I want to sweep the board because I understand what all of those things mean.

01:14:37.000 And so it's not just about the presidency for me.

01:14:40.000 If it was, you know, we could focus on that.

01:14:42.000 But we need those institutions to make sure that you can get guys in these congressional seats over the line.

01:14:50.000 In governor's races, over the line.

01:14:52.000 Again, school board, all the way down the board.

01:14:54.000 So, you know, that's an important thing.

01:14:56.000 And that's why you need those things to be there.

01:14:58.000 Because a Trump campaign...

01:15:00.000 You know, they can drag some people across a line, but you don't have the time, energy, resources to be able to focus on those individual races. 0.71

01:15:07.000 That's why you have those big institutions.

01:15:10.000 So we need to get that going.

01:15:12.000 And we don't need personal grievances in Washington.

01:15:15.000 We need people that stand up, do the right thing every single time.

01:15:19.000 And you know, Don, that's why I wrote my book.

01:15:21.000 I wanted people to understand what happens behind the scenes.

01:15:25.000 And I wanted people to know the stories behind the headlines.

01:15:33.000 Yeah.

01:15:36.000 I'm happy to take it.

01:15:37.000 Well, by the way, like I said, I started a publishing company to make sure that everyone

01:15:41.000 had a voice.

01:15:43.000 But even I, I should know, I saw the Jewish, I was like, we've got to discuss this one.

01:15:48.000 And you lay it out, and it's actually factually 100% accurate, but not the way it's been spun,

01:15:53.000 So the story of that is great.

01:15:55.000 It's in here. There's details.

01:15:57.000 Hey, at the time, that was before what we even saw happen in Hawaii.

01:16:01.000 So who the heck knows, right? That's right.

01:16:05.000 Nobody knows. But the good news is I tell that story in the book, and I also voted to fund Israel's lasers.

01:16:12.000 So they're actually pretty cool.

01:16:14.000 Now, one of the other things I saw this week, you know, and again, I want, you know, the new speakers, he's endorsed Trump, he's MAGA Mike, but, like, I also saw the thing, like, well, we don't really have any evidence to go forward with an impeachment inquiry on Joe Biden.

01:16:26.000 I'm like, you know, like, what?

01:16:28.000 Is that a real quote, or was I being punked?

01:16:31.000 Because, like, I saw that, and I'm like, what do you mean?

01:16:35.000 Like, his grandchildren are getting, like, CCP wire transfers.

01:16:39.000 Like, What are you talking about?

01:16:41.000 Hunter's ex-girlfriend.

01:16:43.000 Hunter wasn't an international businessman.

01:16:44.000 Are we still that naive?

01:16:48.000 Maybe that's what I'm worried about.

01:16:50.000 It's just that we're that naive.

01:16:52.000 No, no, no. There's a totally plausible reason for why Joe's getting hundreds of thousands of dollars.

01:16:57.000 There's no evidence, other than the photo, other than the wire transfer, other than the emails, other than 87,000 emails written by Joe Biden under an alias name.

01:17:06.000 There was nothing on Trump.

01:17:09.000 And we got five years of Russia, Russia, Russia. 0.63

01:17:12.000 By this time in the Biden administration, I had done 50 hours of testimony for treason, a crime punishable by death.

01:17:18.000 And they're like, there's nothing here!

01:17:22.000 But this is coming from our people.

01:17:24.000 There could be nothing more clear.

01:17:29.000 We're playing such a different game.

01:17:30.000 It's sad. No, it's terrible.

01:17:33.000 And just like you outlined, I'm on the oversight committee.

01:17:37.000 I am deeply involved into the impeachment inquiry into Joe Biden.

01:17:41.000 And it shouldn't be an impeachment inquiry that's dismissed at all.

01:17:44.000 It's one that should end with impeachment as soon as possible.

01:17:48.000 Because we have the evidence.

01:17:49.000 We have the bank statements. We have the checks.

01:17:51.000 We have the proof of money laundering, where Joe Biden got paid by his brother James Biden, and we sourced the money directly back to the CCP. This is not made up.

01:18:01.000 It's not a conspiracy theory like Russian collusion, and it's not a political persecution like the government has done to you, your brother, your father, your sister, your entire family, and everyone that has worked for you all.

01:18:14.000 It's outrageous.

01:18:15.000 And we need a Speaker of the House that isn't walking around expecting everyone to follow the words of the Bible We need a Speaker of the House and we need Republicans in Congress that realize what we're facing.

01:18:27.000 And this is a communist takeover of our country.

01:18:30.000 And we're going to end up like Brazil next and many other countries where they take away your right to run for office, which they're trying to do to your father.

01:18:39.000 They tried to do it to me.

01:18:40.000 They tried to take me off the ballot back in 2022.

01:18:44.000 These are not little nice handshakes and nice to meet you and we're all getting along in Washington times.

01:18:51.000 This is not the Democrat Party that Ronald Reagan dealt with.

01:18:55.000 This is the Communist Democrat Party.

01:18:57.000 And I agree with you. We need people to get on board.

01:18:59.000 And that comes from the top.

01:19:01.000 Mack and Mike needs to get on board and fight the Communist Democrats.

01:19:05.000 Yeah, listen, I wish everyone, you know, followed the words of the Bible a little bit more carefully.

01:19:08.000 But if we're doing that while the other side is laughing at us, you know, same with the Constitution.

01:19:13.000 You know, we do... Oh, no, the Constitution says this.

01:19:15.000 They're like, yeah, okay. Yeah.

01:19:17.000 Ha ha ha. You know, while they use, you know, every law...

01:19:22.000 You know, they've taken over the FBI. They've taken over the DOJ. They've weaponized it against their opponents.

01:19:27.000 You know, that's... And again, I keep going back to the word naivete.

01:19:31.000 You know, I'd love to... I'm a God-fearing man myself, but if we're playing this game while Satan is running his playbook, we can't win.

01:19:47.000 It's just not even a fair fight at this point, and I think that's what it is.

01:19:51.000 The biggest frustration We see from a lot of Americans stems from, I guess, what my father calls sort of all talk, no action, right?

01:20:00.000 We say we're going to do this and we're going to put it.

01:20:03.000 Well, actually, that's different.

01:20:05.000 You know, how many Republicans to your impeachment inquiry?

01:20:08.000 Mayorkas, we must impeach. 1.00

01:20:10.000 Daryl Issa, who voted against it, who voted against it this week, last week, had tweeted, we can't wait to speak to him at his impeachment inquiry.

01:20:18.000 Then he votes against it. We saw eight Republicans, like I said, Daryl Issa and seven other Republicans, they didn't vote to impeach Mayorkas, who's literally allowing sex trafficking, human trafficking, drug trafficking to flow across our border.

01:20:38.000 It's literally killing hundreds of thousands of Americans.

01:20:43.000 And eight Republicans, now we can't do that.

01:20:46.000 You know, and there's all the technicality.

01:20:47.000 Well, I don't believe maybe it lines, like, this is a clear and present danger to the United States of America. 0.98

01:20:54.000 This clown is in charge. 0.98

01:20:56.000 He's allowing it to happen. 1.00

01:20:57.000 He's doing nothing.

01:20:59.000 He's lying and saying, there's no problem at the border.

01:21:01.000 It's wonderful and secure.

01:21:02.000 And eight Republicans are still like, well, I don't know.

01:21:05.000 You know, it's not very nice if we impeach him.

01:21:09.000 How do you reconcile that?

01:21:12.000 I mean, obviously you've been a big champion of the border policies.

01:21:15.000 How does the book take readers behind the scenes to understand just how inept and how corrupt the swamp really is?

01:21:24.000 Yeah, in my book I wrote the stories that tell you behind the scenes where you think you see the most conservative Republicans lie out the ones that call themselves conservatives, but they're actually conserving nothing.

01:21:37.000 Because they aren't doing anything, just like those eight Republicans.

01:21:41.000 Let's break that down. Eight Republicans voted to protect Mayorkas and helped him keep his job.

01:21:46.000 Well, eight of them, out of that eight, four of them, including Daryl Issa, serve on the Judiciary Committee, Where my articles of impeachment were already sitting on a shelf collecting dust, and they weren't moving them at all.

01:21:59.000 And so they voted with the Democrats to send them back to the Judiciary Committee, where they go back on the shelf, and they start collecting dust again.

01:22:08.000 Darrell Isis said that I'm a hardworking member of Congress, but I lack maturity.

01:22:13.000 Well, I had two of my constituents killed in Texas Two weeks ago, when a 17-year-old working for the cartels was smuggling illegal aliens into Texas, and it murdered these two innocent Americans, lovely couple with five children.

01:22:29.000 Their children will never get to see them again, never got to say goodbye.

01:22:33.000 And Secretary Mayorkas had a smug look on his face.

01:22:38.000 When I held up their picture yesterday at the Homeland Committee hearing, he had no apologies, no remorse, nothing to say for this couple that was killed.

01:22:49.000 And he even said that the word invasion is offensive to him.

01:22:55.000 The word invasion is offensive to him, but yet eight Republicans can't vote to impeach him.

01:23:00.000 And Daryl Isha is a former chairman of the Oversight Committee.

01:23:05.000 It's shocking. It's like, why on earth would you not take those precautionary measures?

01:23:09.000 Unless, of course, you wanted something to happen.

01:23:12.000 I mean, that's literally, you know, these are not conspiracies anymore.

01:23:16.000 It's literally the only plausible solution.

01:23:18.000 It's not like you have to go out on a limb to get there.

01:23:21.000 So, you know, it's insane.

01:23:22.000 And like I said, you were in the room.

01:23:24.000 We've had that conversation before.

01:23:26.000 But, you know, the mainstream media, there's no one fact-checking them lying about it.

01:23:30.000 Like, you're literally in the room.

01:23:32.000 It's documented. It's there.

01:23:34.000 And it doesn't matter because, you know, Trump did it.

01:23:37.000 Like, if it helps Trump, if it helps the case, if it helps the case of the January Sixers themselves, it can't have happened because that goes against the narrative that they've weaponized to get everything that they want.

01:23:49.000 No, you're right. And I'll just touch back to that interview.

01:23:51.000 I forget the lady's name, the new Meet the Press Lady Welker maybe or something that DJT had the interview with this past weekend. 0.59

01:23:58.000 And she goes to him, you, did you as the president authorize any other security for January 6th?

01:24:06.000 As if she doesn't know the answer to that question.

01:24:09.000 He as the president is forbidden by the Constitution from authorizing any other security outside of the National Guard.

01:24:18.000 And the Supreme Court has declared unilaterally that even when the president authorizes the National Guard, the state and the mayor and the governor, Pelosi and Bowser here, have to ask for it.

01:24:31.000 Because if they didn't, it would be an unconstitutional invasion.

01:24:35.000 And then they switch. It's the same narrative they had back in Russiagate.

01:24:38.000 You guys are lying.

01:24:40.000 The FISA court's great.

01:24:41.000 The FBI's the best. 0.79

01:24:43.000 Donald Trump's evil.

01:24:44.000 And then she moves on to the next narrative.

01:24:46.000 Why is it on Nancy Pelosi?

01:24:48.000 As if her entire crew of a thousand people didn't know posse comitatus.

01:24:53.000 Who wants a president to be able to unilaterally deploy uniformed military soldiers in the United States of America?

01:24:59.000 No one, literally, except meet the press.

01:25:02.000 And when you take that and you couple it with, and I remind people of this.

01:25:06.000 Actually, I don't know if I've really ever talked about this.

01:25:07.000 On January 6th, when Nancy Pelosi finally came to her senses and in the late afternoon asked for the National Guard, she called us the next minute and said, where are they?

01:25:16.000 As if I had them, you know, in my back pocket.

01:25:20.000 The National Guard are teachers, lawyers, parents, cops.

01:25:24.000 You need to mobilize them.

01:25:26.000 They don't magically appear when you snap your fingers.

01:25:29.000 But the next part is the part you'll like the most.

01:25:31.000 She said, well, I want congressional food services restored so my members can eat.

01:25:37.000 Before the election security shenanigans, she wanted food services restored.

01:25:43.000 Mind you, by the way, she was too busy filming unlawfully her protege documentary about fleeing during January 6th in secure spaces with her daughter videotaping everything after we had already flown her to a secure space. 0.94

01:25:59.000 This is what we had to deal with.

01:26:01.000 And then they wanted us to bring in belt-fed machine guns.

01:26:04.000 Stuff you see in Kandahar, they want us to put it on Pennsylvania Avenue. 0.99

01:26:09.000 And all of this is out there, and all of this is in my testimony, the SECDEF testimony, everything else.

01:26:14.000 But the fake news is ginning it up again because they're running out of narratives right now.

01:26:19.000 That we've defeated them with the truth on Russiagate.

01:26:21.000 We've defeated them with the truth on impeachment one and two.

01:26:24.000 We've defeated them with the truth on all of Donald Trump's prosecutions and Joe Biden and Hunter Biden.

01:26:29.000 So what do they have? They have their political dynamo, January 6th, and it's a coordinated strike.

01:26:35.000 They are using that and the mainstream media to try to get us to remove Joe Biden, because even the Democrats are smart enough that they don't want that guy to run.

01:26:45.000 So talk a little bit about, you know, obviously you worked for Devin Nunes in Congress.

01:26:49.000 You were, you know, on an NTEL committee.

01:26:51.000 I mean, you did all of this work.

01:26:54.000 You know, by this time in the Democrat-controlled Congress, I had done about, you know, 50 hours of testimony before those things for, you know, treason, you know, minor details, a crime punishable by death, as we've discussed on this show many times.

01:27:08.000 What do you think, you know, and you've also been, you know, on the conservative, you know, they slow rolled you on Russiagate.

01:27:14.000 You bring up the truth, they criticize you.

01:27:16.000 You know, it's different because of the way they've stacked the deck.

01:27:20.000 But talk about that.

01:27:22.000 What do you think's going on right now in Congress?

01:27:26.000 Do you think they're being just slow rolled?

01:27:28.000 Are they being just totally ineffective?

01:27:29.000 Are they not being strong enough?

01:27:31.000 What's going on? I think it's a combination of the two.

01:27:34.000 And if you'll allow me to use you, unfortunately, as an example, because when I was running Russiagate, you went through that interrogation, and you firsthand saw them leaking lies about you in live time.

01:27:45.000 They literally changed the dates on my emails to try to create, like...

01:27:50.000 You know, he knew about it before instead of after.

01:27:52.000 Like, get rid of the 1 in 14. 1.00

01:27:54.000 It becomes the 4th, not the 14th.

01:27:56.000 And if something happens on the 10th, it makes it seem like you had inside knowledge.

01:27:59.000 So the problem is, that wasn't the real email.

01:28:02.000 But it didn't stop him from running with it.

01:28:03.000 The walls are closing in!

01:28:06.000 No, remember the Trump Tower meeting where you guys talked about adopting children and facilitating that process and Adam Schiff made it the Russian asset galore meeting.

01:28:16.000 This is where it went down.

01:28:17.000 You know what I find ironic and not at all surprising?

01:28:22.000 How about when a sitting vice president has dinner at Cafe Milano with his son and the mayor of Moscow's wife after she piped him $3.5 million for a business deal?

01:28:35.000 The mainstream media spent the last eight years denying that meeting ever happened.

01:28:40.000 And then when we got the records and the logs to show that that meeting happened, now they say, oh, Joe Biden had nothing to do with it.

01:28:48.000 He was just there as a dinner partner.

01:28:50.000 Can you imagine what they would have done to you and your family if you sat down with the mayor of Moscow's wife after some company you're affiliated with got three and a half million dollars?

01:29:00.000 This is the hypocrisy that we have to get out there and show them as bad as it was for you.

01:29:06.000 And this goes to your question. What Congress is doing right now is letting them get away with this.

01:29:12.000 It's a two-tier administrative state.

01:29:14.000 I'm not asking Congress to do a thousand things.

01:29:17.000 I'm really asking them to do a couple.

01:29:19.000 Why haven't you subpoenaed Chris Wray and Merrick Garland and Hunter Biden?

01:29:22.000 Why can't you just run hard at that target set And show the American people the documentation about the bank records, about the meetings, about the CCP, about the Ukraine.

01:29:34.000 So the fake news mafia will stop saying, where's the evidence?

01:29:38.000 And we're never going to correct the left and their 40%.

01:29:41.000 But you know who we're going to win over with Donald Trump saying this week in and week out?

01:29:45.000 Is the middle 10% to 15% that decides elections.

01:29:48.000 And they're starting to come around.

01:29:50.000 And the Democrats are now trying to have us impeach Biden and take him out.

01:29:55.000 I've always said I think that's a mistake.

01:29:57.000 I think we need to impeach Garland and Ray, the twin architects of the two-tier system of justice.

01:30:03.000 That is the epicenter of the corrosion of justice.

01:30:05.000 And it will get us the documentation.

01:30:08.000 I also think we need to do simple things at Congress like, why does Leon Panetta, Michael Hayden, Deputy Director Morrell and 48 other former CIA and DOD officials have their security clearance that we taxpayers pay for when they were caught lying and rigging a presidential election.

01:30:27.000 Do you know how easy it is to zero out that so they don't go into the private sector, which they're doing right now, tens of millions of dollars off that?

01:30:37.000 Find that F-35.

01:30:41.000 Yeah, no, it's crazy.

01:30:44.000 I mean, speaking of crazy, I got to get your reaction to the insanity out of Ukraine. 0.97

01:30:49.000 You saw the trans spokesman for Ukraine's military is threatening to kill Russia propagandists. 0.93

01:30:56.000 I mean, around the world. I mean, I guess that means if you say something they disagree with, they think they can just kill you now. 0.97

01:31:02.000 And I mean... It appears to be more and more unhinged. 0.94

01:31:06.000 I mean, we've seen this. It seems like an American as well, because they say the answer to the American taxpayer, so this could be taxpayer-funded and or government-sanctioned, and it never ends.

01:31:19.000 How would you assess America's involvement in Ukraine at this point?

01:31:22.000 And what do you say about this?

01:31:26.000 How does the insanity of where our money goes inside the swamp relate to even your book?

01:31:33.000 Because, I mean, this was like next level, like, oh my God, they're really doing this.

01:31:38.000 This is like the most unserious person in the world getting funded by this, but this is Ukraine policy?

01:31:45.000 I don't even understand it.

01:31:48.000 Well, it goes back to the same corrupt part in the media.

01:31:52.000 They've made this the calling for the radical left in the Biden administration.

01:31:58.000 And whether they're paying terrorists $6 billion, excuse me, For American hostages, or spend $115 billion in Ukraine, everything's the same to them.

01:32:10.000 It's all rainbows and gumdrops.

01:32:11.000 Everyone's winning in America.

01:32:13.000 Everything's great. But here's the reality.

01:32:16.000 Not only do we have zero idea where our $115 billion went.

01:32:20.000 By the way, my buddy just went to Ukraine, and he said, The nightlife and the nightclubs and everything was the best he's ever seen anywhere in the world.

01:32:28.000 This is what we're funding, the Ukraine.

01:32:31.000 And not only that, but Congress allowed Joe Biden to send $6 billion to the Ayatollahs in Iran.

01:32:38.000 Who are going to use it to directly fund terror against us.

01:32:42.000 And they have the audacity to tell us we will monitor the funds like you did in the Ukraine, like you're doing with fighter jets.

01:32:49.000 I mean, these guys can't find a plane.

01:32:52.000 We want them to find 1000 times that in financial assets overseas.

01:32:57.000 Ukraine is a modern day Afghanistan. 0.99

01:33:00.000 We have never been able to account for 50% of the funds out of Afghanistan, and we never will.

01:33:06.000 And the same is going to happen to the Ukraine.

01:33:08.000 And my prediction is when Biden is wiped out and Donald Trump is elected, they will somehow hang the $200 billion tag on Donald Trump's head for daring to try and help the Ukraine.

01:33:21.000 But here's a scary fact that non-military, non-national security people need to know.

01:33:26.000 We, the United States of America, have a finite amount of resources, missiles and technology to defend us and our allies around the world.

01:33:36.000 Forget the $115 billion, for a second, that went to the Ukraine.

01:33:40.000 Do you know how much of our missile defense system we've given to the Ukraine?

01:33:45.000 As in, if we stopped today and tried to resupply, do you know how long it would take us to restore our surface-to-air missile programs?

01:33:53.000 Seven years!

01:33:55.000 Seven years. That means if there's a conflict, God forbid China invades Taiwan, or something happens in the Middle East, or Southeast Asia, or wherever, and they are calling us Americans to employ and deploy with them.

01:34:11.000 We don't have the tech.

01:34:13.000 We don't have the goods.

01:34:14.000 We don't have the weapons.

01:34:16.000 We've given them away.

01:34:17.000 And this is too cute by a half for me, especially when I was chief of staff at DOD. This one really ticks me off.

01:34:23.000 Oh, it's okay, there's no soldiers in the Ukraine.

01:34:26.000 You know, America's not really there.

01:34:27.000 Well, it seems like there were. I mean, that whistleblower that leaked the information, I mean, it seems like we had boots on the ground.

01:34:33.000 And then they caught him, and that story disappeared in an instant.

01:34:38.000 Our media doesn't ask about it, because I guess that would hurt Biden if he was waging a, you know, beyond the proxy war that we've been waging, but an actual boots-on-the-ground war in Eastern Europe.

01:34:47.000 I mean, you know, what could go wrong, historically speaking?

01:34:50.000 You know, it's lunacy.

01:34:52.000 And yet, you know, that was a story for like a half a day.

01:34:56.000 It seemed it was obvious what we were doing.

01:34:58.000 And then no one's even asked the question anymore.

01:35:00.000 Just like we're not asking the question is, is our Ukraine policy dictated?

01:35:05.000 Because maybe Ukraine actually has more dirt on the Bidens.

01:35:08.000 they could take them down and therefore will spend, you know, an infinite amount of money

01:35:13.000 protecting the Bidens in a futile war that could escalate into something much worse.

01:35:19.000 And, you know, they got a wonderful trans spokesperson there. I mean, is the trans

01:35:25.000 spokesperson thing is that like, I guess, because it's the big thing in Hollywood or whatever. I

01:35:29.000 mean, is that how they try to make it okay? Because they're beyond reproach. You're not

01:35:33.000 allowed to be critical of that. Because I mean, you would think that in a serious situation,

01:35:37.000 that may not be the person you lead with.

01:35:39.000 I don't know. Well, here's the other travesty.

01:35:42.000 We're funding it. They don't have money for this stuff.

01:35:45.000 We're funding his trips.

01:35:47.000 He's here at the United Nations calling for more money and actually telling us Americans that if Ukrainians act out in the future and do bad things, it's going to be our fault.

01:35:58.000 For not giving enough.

01:36:00.000 And we have rubes on Capitol Hill listening to this because they are wed to the defense industrial complex and bought and paid for by Raytheon and Lockheed and Northrop and Boeing. 0.95

01:36:10.000 And I'm not saying those guys don't do good things, but they have made it an institution to cycle individuals in and out of Washington so that they have golden parachutes and they get the $100 billion contracts every year.

01:36:22.000 And what ticks me off about the Ukraine Is not just that we don't know where the money's going.

01:36:28.000 That's okay.

01:36:30.000 That would take enough people off, period.

01:36:32.000 I mean, you know, hey, the same government that wants to go after your Venmo account if you spend more than $600 is okay losing half of $150 billion.

01:36:41.000 Then the Pentagon, what was it?

01:36:42.000 They lost $220 billion.

01:36:44.000 I mean, you know, this is not like...

01:36:46.000 A rounding error.

01:36:48.000 This is real money.

01:36:50.000 I mean, this is money that could fund...

01:36:52.000 I mean, we could fix so many of our own problems here and there.

01:36:55.000 Oh, we just lost it. Like, you know, I'm sure it went to, you know, create the next corrupt oligarch class in Ukraine and elsewhere.

01:37:02.000 But, like, oh, my God.

01:37:04.000 And again, our media, $220 billion.

01:37:07.000 What's the big deal? What's the big deal?

01:37:10.000 Our media doesn't even ask the question anymore.

01:37:13.000 They blow off the answer and then they're like, oh, okay.

01:37:16.000 Oh, okay. I'll accept that as an answer.

01:37:18.000 It's lunacy. And the biggest lie is how we're not there.

01:37:24.000 American contractors are on the ground.

01:37:26.000 And I think soon we're going to find out the facts that uniformed officers are on the ground. 0.99

01:37:30.000 Are we to believe that the American Congress and the American Commander-in-Chief are so stupid That they send $120 billion in equipment over? 0.96

01:37:40.000 And they send, what, the Ukrainians an ABC manual translated into Russian and Ukraine on how to launch surface-to-air missiles? 1.00

01:37:47.000 Who the heck's over there training them?

01:37:49.000 Who's taking care of the equipment?

01:37:51.000 Where does it go when it breaks?

01:37:54.000 These are American service members and American contractors that are there. 1.00

01:37:58.000 Maybe we are that stupid that we didn't send them. 0.98

01:38:01.000 We just sent them the toys and we didn't send them the Manning. 1.00

01:38:04.000 But I've never seen that in my entire career at DOD or Intel or anywhere else.

01:38:08.000 So we're going to find out that they're there.

01:38:09.000 And going to about where should we spend the money, as Donald Trump has said?

01:38:13.000 Not just the border. We got 55,000 homeless veterans in this country, two dozen of which take their own lives every week.

01:38:20.000 I'd like to spend some money there.

01:38:22.000 Maybe just like 10 million, you know, to go across to their families in need because we sent them overseas, they came back broken, and we failed them.

01:38:31.000 And to me, everywhere I go, that's what Americans want to do.

01:38:34.000 But because we're being bamboozled by this Senate, by this Democrat and Republican, you know, combination of factors, we are just lighting our taxpayer dollars on fire, which is again why, if they're not going to do the work, I'm going to do the work.

01:38:50.000 I'm going to go depose Rod Rosenstein.

01:38:53.000 I'm going to go depose Chris Wray.

01:38:54.000 I'm going to go take every one of their depositions and every one of their emails in this lawsuit, and I'm going to publicize it to the world so that they understand that our government has been taken over.

01:39:07.000 It's not even a deep state.

01:39:08.000 They're just like publicly out there having a party.

01:39:11.000 And every time they hit the pinata, CNN puts them on for an interview.

01:39:15.000 The worst actors.

01:39:18.000 You can lie before Congress.

01:39:20.000 In many ways, Roseanne, the show was prophetic.

01:39:24.000 It showed how globalization could destroy economies of the Midwest.

01:39:30.000 We're going to take your American dream and we're going to ship it to China so we can save half a cent on a widget.

01:39:36.000 It decimated factory towns.

01:39:38.000 It showed the impact of those Terrible decisions by, you know, globalist sort of, you know, government officials and others, what that impact meant on a family.

01:39:50.000 You know, back then, those types of working class patriots were probably more likely to be Democrats.

01:39:56.000 But now, that Democrat Party doesn't exist.

01:40:00.000 That Democrat Party is, you know, making sure that your children are learning about the 9,476 genders.

01:40:06.000 You know, they don't need to learn math.

01:40:07.000 They're like, no, who cares about that?

01:40:09.000 We're going to teach them and program them.

01:40:10.000 Yeah, that's really I'm not going to help them get a job.

01:40:12.000 Yeah. But now, those people are Donald Trump supporters.

01:40:16.000 Right. So the disdain for them has come out even more.

01:40:20.000 So at the time, you know, when you were doing, and this is really even the original show, I mean, you were sort of, this was going on, and you saw it, but did you know that the show was sort of a warning of what the so-called elites were really trying to do, you know, and what happened to these communities?

01:40:37.000 I did. I did, and I kept feeling the whole time I was doing it, and I was fighting so hard, because I do believe in some ways the medium is the message, and believe me, if they knew what I was doing, they never would have let me do it.

01:40:52.000 But they're so stupid, they didn't know what I was doing, thank God. 0.61

01:40:55.000 But I was reaching out like a radio-free America to the American people to tell them what I saw was coming and I was in my head the whole time I was writing and doing I felt like I was doing it for the next generation as well as the people that were watching it then but I felt like it was really for the children of the next generation when they would watch the reruns or whatever which thank god they continued to do for all these almost 40 years but it was a message for them because I knew that We're good to go. 0.99

01:41:52.000 Together. And that's like somehow not a good message anymore from people.

01:41:58.000 Anyway, they each have a job to do and it's for the future of the family to exist.

01:42:04.000 So I always knew that they were going to attack that and that I saw it.

01:42:09.000 I saw The father's leaving the home in my own community, whether to go to jail or to be killed or whatever.

01:42:17.000 I grew up in a working class community, so I saw it.

01:42:20.000 But it was like, it was just so by design and knowing my family coming from Europe and going through the Holocaust and everything, that this is always the way they do it. 0.93

01:42:34.000 It isn't just America.

01:42:36.000 It is always the way that the people at the top of the pyramid do things.

01:42:42.000 That's how they do it.

01:42:44.000 And they always attack at the bottom, not the top.

01:42:47.000 Of course, never at the top.

01:42:49.000 So, I mean, let's talk a little bit about stand-up.

01:42:52.000 Obviously, you were a comedian, but you also were one of the great sort of, certainly females of stand-up, if not just stand-up, period. 0.98

01:42:59.000 It seems like cancel culture and political correctness Is a real threat to just even stand-up comedy these days.

01:43:08.000 Because stand-up only works, in my opinion, if there's...

01:43:12.000 If you're a little...

01:43:13.000 If you're free to tell sort of the uncomfortable truths.

01:43:16.000 I think part of what makes it great is, like, you point out the thing that everyone knows that they can't really say.

01:43:21.000 You know, they went after you.

01:43:23.000 They went after, you know, Dave Chappelle.

01:43:25.000 Like, you know, one of the most brilliant...

01:43:27.000 You know, when I think of, like, you know, some of the skits from Chappelle's show, you know, the Clayton Bigsby, you know, the black-white supremacist.

01:43:33.000 I mean... Like, one of the greats of all time, you couldn't even imagine doing it today.

01:43:39.000 And yet, you know, every couple of months, I get on, you know, one of the things just to go play that because it was just so funny.

01:43:46.000 They went after Rogan.

01:43:48.000 And now, you know...

01:43:51.000 The guys that were regarded as being great, but also perhaps even left, are now sort of moving to the right.

01:44:00.000 I think maybe because they've been penalized.

01:44:03.000 I don't think Rogan's a conservative.

01:44:07.000 I think he's free to sort of think about different things and not be sort of stuck in one box.

01:44:13.000 But the second he said something, even if it was like...

01:44:16.000 This is what someone said. 0.98

01:44:18.000 Racist! And the people that he probably thought he was more aligned with tried to cancel him so quickly.

01:44:25.000 Now, so for you, when you travel around the country doing stand-up, do you think that more comedians think like you than are willing to admit it?

01:44:34.000 Do you think the damage to comedy in general is so severe because they're not able to get there, right?

01:44:41.000 They can't, like, you know what the punchline should be, but you can't quite do it because there are external 0.91

01:44:46.000 forces working on you and they don't wanna deal with the shit that they're gonna have to deal with these days. 0.96

01:44:51.000 Well, I think that that was true and it continues to be true 0.99

01:44:55.000 a lot of places all over the country, but Joe Rogan was...

01:45:01.000 I always have to credit him.

01:45:04.000 He started a club there in Austin, the Mothership, in honor of Mitzi Shore, who was kind of our comedy mom in every way, our spiritual comedy mom.

01:45:15.000 And in that club there, there are comics who are keeping the spirit of comedy as the greatest weapon against The powers that be, the establishment.

01:45:29.000 They're keeping that alive.

01:45:30.000 And it's just so exciting to be part of it and to see how, you know, comics from all over the country are moving down there, including myself.

01:45:39.000 That's why I moved to Texas.

01:45:41.000 To be part of that is a great renaissance.

01:45:44.000 And no, nobody's afraid of anything down there.

01:45:46.000 It's zero woke tolerance.

01:45:49.000 And, you know, the audience comes to be challenged in their thinking.

01:45:53.000 They love it.

01:45:55.000 And every place I go, I remember, you know, me performing and, you know, how the opinion of the audience has changed.

01:46:04.000 Whether that's because people saw me differently and I attracted a different audience, I don't know.

01:46:10.000 But they love it.

01:46:11.000 People love when you're breaking, like you're like, Pow!

01:46:15.000 Go right to the heart of it.

01:46:16.000 They are standing and cheering for every joke.

01:46:20.000 I'm getting, like, multiple standing ovations.

01:46:22.000 And when I perform at Joe's Club, it's the same thing, and it is the same for the comics Black, White, Asian, and Arab that are working down there.

01:46:32.000 It's like, no, we will not be contained.

01:46:34.000 We ain't gonna bow to you.

01:46:36.000 Comedy is a power unto its own.

01:46:40.000 It's a gift from God. And people feel like they're on a quasi-crusade to save it, because it saves our country.

01:46:47.000 To speak truth to power, they're not going to shut us up. 1.00

01:46:51.000 We'll never be shut up, so fuck them. 1.00

01:46:54.000 And honestly, how effective you've been at triggering the left. 1.00

01:46:58.000 Like, I totally understand why it's important to stay anonymous.

01:47:02.000 So what do you think about some of that?

01:47:05.000 Well, you know, I got on social media four and a half years ago.

01:47:09.000 Never been on social media before.

01:47:11.000 And picked out the weirdest name, Cat Turr.

01:47:14.000 Never thought I'd get 10 followers.

01:47:16.000 And I really don't care about being anonymous as much as people think.

01:47:20.000 I just think it's kind of funny now.

01:47:22.000 It drives them crazy. It doesn't matter to me if people really know who I am.

01:47:26.000 It never has. But the more I do it, I think the funnier it is, you know, and the more it gets to them.

01:47:33.000 Dude, like I said, I'm looking at the live chat, and it's just absolutely lighting up.

01:47:37.000 We love cancer. You've done something sort of amazing.

01:47:42.000 So how did it happen? Like I said, again, I do a lot on social, but I started off with a pretty good platform.

01:47:47.000 My father, we were on The Apprentice.

01:47:49.000 My father became president of the United States.

01:47:52.000 That's a pretty good place to start.

01:47:53.000 How did it happen for you that you got this incredible...

01:47:58.000 You know, what started it?

01:47:59.000 I mean, obviously, you're not afraid to push buttons, but how do you get there and how do you do it so quickly?

01:48:04.000 I really don't know.

01:48:06.000 But first, I want to say that we are...

01:48:08.000 America has been saved today.

01:48:09.000 I don't know if anybody knows this.

01:48:11.000 Joe Manchin went to see Zelensky.

01:48:13.000 We are saved. Oh, yeah.

01:48:14.000 No more open borders.

01:48:16.000 Well, he went there with...

01:48:17.000 Who's the country singer? 0.74

01:48:20.000 I don't know. He sounded like a chicken on crack.

01:48:23.000 Paisley. I don't even know what his first name is.

01:48:25.000 What's his first name? Brad Paisley was over there.

01:48:29.000 He was the guy that was singing about the vaccines last time.

01:48:32.000 So Brad Paisley goes to Ukraine with... 0.99

01:48:37.000 What the fuck does Brad Paisley have to do with a war in Ukraine? 0.99

01:48:42.000 We're not serious people anymore. 0.99

01:48:44.000 Brad Paisley's doing that.

01:48:45.000 He's going to put on a concert. Wait, I thought it was a war zone.

01:48:48.000 I don't understand. What the hell is going on?

01:48:51.000 What's your take? What's the cat turd take on this one? 0.90

01:48:54.000 Hey, your guess is as good as me.

01:48:57.000 What kind of information do we get out that we can even believe?

01:49:00.000 I mean, do you believe Ukraine's media, Russia media, our media?

01:49:04.000 I don't know if I believe any of them, but I don't know that anyone...

01:49:07.000 Is it possible to be worse than our media?

01:49:11.000 It's not. I love it when CNN says, man, that Russia propaganda is terrible.

01:49:17.000 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm saying, man, I haven't seen, you know, the propaganda coming out of CNN would make, like, Mao and Stalin blush, and yet, like, they pretend that they're real news, and maybe that's why you've been affected.

01:49:31.000 I mean, you do say, like, stuff that's real on there.

01:49:36.000 You're not afraid to do it, and I think you're also good about promoting other people, not just sort of, you know, so much of the Internet stuff, you see people just stealing other people's stuff and trying to make it their own, and you've done a really good job of that, and maybe they return that favor.

01:49:48.000 But, you know, again, How does Cat Turd become one of the biggest voices in the MAGA movement?

01:49:56.000 I have no idea.

01:49:58.000 Like I said, I've never been on social media at that time.

01:50:00.000 I was 54 years old. I didn't even know how to use social media.

01:50:03.000 I remember the first time I got on it.

01:50:04.000 I was like, how do you post a picture?

01:50:06.000 So you're like Boomer and yet you made it in the world of social media.

01:50:10.000 I'm impressed, man.

01:50:12.000 I'm just an old country boy down here in the South.

01:50:15.000 And somehow, I don't know, it just started and it started getting bigger.

01:50:18.000 I remember telling somebody, man, I got a thousand followers.

01:50:21.000 We're fast. And I thought that was like, you know, I couldn't believe it.

01:50:24.000 And then it just kept going and going and going.

01:50:28.000 And I have no idea.

01:50:30.000 It was just lightning in a bottle.

01:50:31.000 I mean, my side is a little different than most people's.

01:50:35.000 People just hammer...

01:50:37.000 I do political stuff.

01:50:38.000 I do a lot of humor.

01:50:39.000 I do a lot of serious stuff, too.

01:50:42.000 And I don't know. It just called on.

01:50:43.000 And it didn't hurt when your father started retweeting me.

01:50:46.000 That's when it really, when President Trump retweeted me, that's when it really took off, the first time he retweeted me.

01:50:53.000 Yeah, well, and I even saw recently, I guess, you did, like, a cat turd poll, and, like, my father put it out there.

01:51:02.000 And, by the way, it's probably more accurate than, like, the other polling out there, which is insane, but, like, you put it out there, and, like, the left went insane that he retweeted this poll from cat turd.

01:51:15.000 They went crazy.

01:51:18.000 But what's, I mean, look, there was 250,000 people on it.

01:51:22.000 What's more accurate, that?

01:51:23.000 And CNN, I mean, do they even call people?

01:51:25.000 And you look at the poll, and it's like 450 people.

01:51:29.000 Trump's down 80 points.

01:51:31.000 I mean, it's all a lie, every bit of it.

01:51:33.000 Yeah, CNN, they called their neighbor and their lunatic leftist aunt, and Trump has no chance.

01:51:39.000 He's got zero chance of doing anything.

01:51:43.000 So where'd you come up with the name Cat Turd?

01:51:46.000 I was on Bright Bar and I made a...

01:51:51.000 There was Discuss.

01:51:54.000 That's where they talk to each other and Bright Bar is called Discuss.

01:51:57.000 And I just was like, I'm going to get on social.

01:51:59.000 I'm going to finally just start talking.

01:52:00.000 I don't know how to do it.

01:52:02.000 And I just was flipping through the web and I saw the picture of the cat and they just said, Cat Turd.

01:52:08.000 I thought it was funny. I never thought I'd get 100 followers.

01:52:11.000 And now it's almost like a...

01:52:14.000 It's become like a Homer Simpson.

01:52:16.000 You know, it's just beyond me.

01:52:17.000 People do movies of it and this.

01:52:19.000 And, you know, I sell products on my website.

01:52:22.000 There's a thousand fake cat turd sites on Amazon, all around the world. 0.98

01:52:27.000 It's ridiculous. Are you having to do a lot of defensive maneuvering protecting the cat turd brand at this point?

01:52:33.000 Because a lot of people are, you know, poaching that stuff.

01:52:37.000 And, I mean, I see the people calling themselves littermates.

01:52:39.000 It's sort of amazing. Yeah, we started a podcast, Jules and I, I think it's been 14 months ago, and we started with zero.

01:52:51.000 We didn't have a YouTube following or a big following, and we didn't know what the hell we were doing.

01:52:56.000 So they just kind of called themselves the Litter Mates, and we got one of the strongest chats on Rumble. 0.98

01:53:02.000 I mean, there's thousands.

01:53:05.000 No, like I said, I'm seeing it blow up.

01:53:08.000 By the way, there seems to be, and by the way, I can get behind this, cat turd for press secretary for the Trump second term.

01:53:16.000 Listen, I think this could be a huge win.

01:53:21.000 I'm good. Hey, listen, anyone's more competent than the current press secretary.

01:53:25.000 I mean, she's a bumbling idiot, but I guess that's what you get when you have Joe Biden in here. 1.00

01:53:30.000 But talk about, did you see the Maddow meltdown? 1.00

01:53:33.000 Because everyone keeps talking about the Maddow meltdown, just the fact that you put out the poll and DJT retweeted it and she went crazy. 0.93

01:53:39.000 But you're getting under the skin of like, you know, some of the biggest lunatic leftists out there. 0.77

01:53:44.000 Oh, yeah. I get doxed a thousand times a day. 0.97

01:53:47.000 I get death threats by the thousands.

01:53:50.000 It's crazy just because I just speak the truth, you know, and the truth hurts them bad.

01:53:56.000 Yeah, it's sort of amazing, because I say that a lot on the show, and who would have thought that chopping the genitals off a three-year-old would be a fundamental part of the Democrat Party platform? 0.68

01:54:10.000 And you say it, and they're like, oh my god!

01:54:12.000 I'm like, but it is!

01:54:14.000 But it is! And they keep doing this stuff, so telling the truth hurts.

01:54:20.000 I guess it's why they go after me, but I guess it's also why perhaps I've been able to build up a decent following myself.

01:54:26.000 Yeah, you've got a few. I think you've got three or four.

01:54:29.000 Yeah. But the kids have a chance these days that go to government school.

01:54:33.000 I mean, they go to government school.

01:54:34.000 They take them when they're four years old, five years old.

01:54:37.000 They teach them, hey, the very air you breathe is poison.

01:54:40.000 Wear a mask. Hey, the earth's going to explode because of cow farts. 1.00

01:54:43.000 We're all going to die in 12 years. 0.58

01:54:45.000 Hey, we're going to separate you, critical race theory. 0.99

01:54:48.000 And, you know, the whites over here, the blacks, this, this. 1.00

01:54:50.000 And this group sucks. And this group's... 1.00

01:54:53.000 Great in this group, and they do all this, and they do this, and hey, here's a book showing BJ's when you're six years old.

01:55:03.000 We want you to read this.

01:55:04.000 And then it goes on and on and on through college, and by the time they're 22 years old and they get out of college, they're government zombies.

01:55:13.000 So you mentioned the infamous escalator line, which is sort of an amazing start, right?

01:55:19.000 Who would have thought that was the start of an entire political movement, maybe the largest in American history?

01:55:23.000 But in the elevator before the escalator ride, you actually said something to me.

01:55:28.000 I wrote it down in my book, Triggered.

01:55:30.000 I just thought it was sort of fascinating because you understood it.

01:55:33.000 And you said, now's when we find out who our real friends are.

01:55:37.000 Meaning, you understood the way the world works.

01:55:39.000 If you're going to do this, you're going to make enemies of people who were friends 15 minutes before that, but more importantly, that you chose to do it anyway, despite, you know, sort of that consequence.

01:55:48.000 What have you learned about, you know, friendship and loyalty since then?

01:55:53.000 Because I thought business was vicious until we got into politics, and now you realize that's a whole new level.

01:55:59.000 So you mentioned Rush.

01:56:01.000 So Rush heard my speech, saw the whole thing, And he was with me from that moment on.

01:56:09.000 I'd never met him. And they said, Rush Limbaugh is with you.

01:56:12.000 And he ended up endorsing me very quickly.

01:56:15.000 He knew all the other candidates.

01:56:16.000 He ended up endorsing me.

01:56:18.000 And he was absolutely...

01:56:20.000 An amazing friend.

01:56:22.000 He never wavered.

01:56:23.000 He never wavered with all of the nonsense that went on, all of the hoaxes like Russia, Russia, Russia hoax.

01:56:29.000 He never ever wavered.

01:56:32.000 The guy was amazing and there was nobody like him.

01:56:35.000 I tell you what, Sean Hannity said it.

01:56:37.000 Because Sean's doing great, and Sean is fantastic at what he does.

01:56:41.000 But he said, there's never been anybody like Rush.

01:56:44.000 Mark Levin said it too.

01:56:46.000 Fantastic guy also.

01:56:48.000 But he said he was one of a kind.

01:56:50.000 He never wavered during the bad times, during any time.

01:56:54.000 And I heard that he was on my side.

01:56:57.000 Didn't know him. I told you I never met him.

01:57:00.000 But he was incredible.

01:57:02.000 Then I got to know him. Then ultimately I gave him the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which was a fantastic, you know, that's the highest civilian award.

01:57:11.000 I gave it to him during the State of the Union.

01:57:14.000 And you had half the room going wild and half the room was dead silent.

01:57:18.000 They were less than thrilled.

01:57:19.000 I remember that. They were dead.

01:57:21.000 They're like this... And half are just going wild, standing ovations that wouldn't stop.

01:57:27.000 And you said, I wonder if there's a little divide in the nation, right?

01:57:30.000 But Rush was a fantastic guy right until the end.

01:57:33.000 And he was very brave. He fought on when very few people could have really sustained the pain that he was in.

01:57:39.000 But he loved doing what he was doing and he loved our country.

01:57:42.000 But I'll never forget, you know, people, they want introductions because they'd like to get the support.

01:57:48.000 I never met Rush.

01:57:49.000 He was the biggest guy. He had like 39 million people listening.

01:57:53.000 And out of nowhere, they said, this guy loves you.

01:57:56.000 He's going to endorse you.

01:57:57.000 I said, I don't even know him.

01:57:59.000 He just liked what I had to say.

01:58:00.000 I talked about the borders.

01:58:02.000 I talked about military.

01:58:04.000 I talked about education.

01:58:05.000 I talked about a lot of things.

01:58:07.000 No speechwriter. Most of it was just off the cuff.

01:58:09.000 He loved what I had to say.

01:58:12.000 And from that moment on, that was a very special day.

01:58:16.000 But from that moment on, Rush Limbaugh was with me 100%.

01:58:19.000 You had some interesting correspondence with Reagan going back and forth in the book.

01:58:23.000 But the one that was interesting, there seemed to be a lot of back and forth with you and Richard Nixon.

01:58:28.000 His wife even wrote one of the letters, you know, basically, that Donald, if he decides to run, he's going to actually win.

01:58:35.000 Talk about that relationship and how did it start?

01:58:38.000 Well, you know, they had a very good relationship, actually.

01:58:40.000 A lot of people don't know. In fact, the only time I saw Richard Nixon just totally break down was when his wife, who he loved, when she died.

01:58:49.000 That was the roughest day.

01:58:50.000 I've never seen him like that with all he went through.

01:58:53.000 He went through hell. But with all he went through, that was tough.

01:58:56.000 But she saw me on the Phil Downey show, which you're too young to know about, but that was a very hot show.

01:59:02.000 That was pre-Oprah, sort of an Oprah-type show.

01:59:05.000 And I was interviewed, and she said, oh, if he ran for office, he'd win.

01:59:08.000 And he told me that she said that if I ever ran for president, I would win and all of this.

01:59:14.000 But it was nice.

01:59:15.000 And he put it in writing, and it's one of the letters that we put in.

01:59:19.000 So, last week, I had the privilege of going with you to UFC Miami.

01:59:23.000 I thought that was incredible.

01:59:24.000 And, you know, that was, you know, deep blue Miami.

01:59:27.000 And the ovation in the crowd, even Dana, said he's never seen anything like it.

01:59:31.000 Talk about Dana White, the early times at the UFC. I mean, there's letters from Vince McMahon.

01:59:37.000 I'd love to hear your thoughts on sort of that merger in UFC-WWE as well.

01:59:41.000 But that was sort of de facto cooling.

01:59:45.000 You know, that group of people and just...

01:59:49.000 A roar when you came in with Kid Rock.

01:59:52.000 It just went viral from there.

01:59:54.000 Talk about that. So, first of all, those two people are incredible.

01:59:58.000 Vince McMahon, what a job he's done.

02:00:00.000 There's a great letter in here from him.

02:00:01.000 Yeah. He's an incredible man, and his wife, Linda, she is fantastic, and she really helped a lot.

02:00:08.000 Believe me, you know, a lot of people, they talk Vince, and Vince would be the first to say that Linda was very instrumental, too.

02:00:14.000 And Dana is just nobody like him.

02:00:17.000 The job he's done with the UFC, they sold it for $4 billion.

02:00:22.000 And it looks like the people that paid $4 billion made a good deal because Dana, I don't even know if he's replaceable.

02:00:28.000 I always say everybody's replaceable.

02:00:30.000 I'm not sure he's replaceable or what he does.

02:00:31.000 He's an incredible person.

02:00:33.000 And they're both very loyal people.

02:00:35.000 Those people, all three of them, I have to say that because I'm going to include Linda.

02:00:39.000 But she's been, you know, she was head of small business.

02:00:43.000 And small business is actually very large business, but the Small Business Administration, and she did a phenomenal job doing that. 1.00

02:00:50.000 You know, you hear small business, sounds like small, and then you look at, you know, tens of billions and just money like you never saw anything going out.

02:00:59.000 She was great. But Dana White, the job he's done with UFC is just incredible.

02:01:04.000 We did. We walked into the arena.

02:01:05.000 He said, I have never, ever Had a scene like that.

02:01:10.000 And there wasn't one hater.

02:01:12.000 There wasn't one person in the whole arena.

02:01:15.000 I don't know what they have. Whatever it holds and probably then you add some because the basketball court is much bigger than a ring.

02:01:23.000 So what happens is they have, you know, the people are loaded on the court.

02:01:26.000 The place was packed. And he said, I've never had anything like that where There was such enthusiasm and love.

02:01:33.000 And the fighter even, he's a great guy, Jorge, Jorge Masvidal.

02:01:38.000 Great fighter. He was out and he said, Trump, the greatest president we've ever had.

02:01:43.000 And it was just- A bunch of the other fighters, by the way, for those who may not have even seen them up to you, I mean, they jumped across the fence and were just giving you total responsibility.

02:01:50.000 And, you know, from every demographic, guys, you wouldn't think, but they got it.

02:01:53.000 It was sort of unique to see, I think, that fighter, that individual sport, the self-reliance, so many of the things that are conservatives we actually believe.

02:02:01.000 It was fascinating. Well, it is true, though.

02:02:03.000 I mean, they're in the ring. They can't blame it on somebody else.

02:02:07.000 They are there by themselves against rough customers and you gotta offend. 0.89

02:02:13.000 There's no bullshit involved.

02:02:15.000 There's no nothing. You gotta fight. 0.74

02:02:17.000 And there is something very nice about it.

02:02:19.000 It's old fashioned.

02:02:21.000 It's somewhat primitive, but it's amazing.

02:02:24.000 And there's no excuses.

02:02:26.000 You can't blame it on somebody else.

02:02:28.000 So speaking of privative, because it feels like it that way these days, you have a great mind in some of the speeches I've heard lately talking about you'd be the greatest women's basketball coach of all time if you could just recruit LeBron James, who, well, that's something I have to share our political beliefs, but still a good basketball player.

02:02:46.000 Tell us a little bit about that, because I think it's amazing and true, and it shows how ridiculous what's going on in women's sports, or supposedly women's sports. 1.00

02:02:54.000 He's a great basketball player, but he's not a person that I like.

02:02:57.000 But he's a great basketball player, and as are some others, but he's really a fantastic player.

02:03:04.000 But I don't, you know, happen to agree with him, but I said women It's so unfair to women what they're doing. 1.00

02:03:12.000 They're putting men into women's sports, and they try and justify it. 1.00

02:03:16.000 That's one of the many things, like open borders, like voter ID, like all of these things.

02:03:20.000 There's so many things that's common sense.

02:03:22.000 The mutilation of minors. The mutilation.

02:03:25.000 There's a hundred different things you could say.

02:03:28.000 I actually call it now April Fool's because almost everything, like you said, who would say open borders are good or people are pouring into your country and that's a good thing? 0.90

02:03:36.000 I say, no, it's April Fool's Day.

02:03:38.000 Who would say that men should play in women's sports? 1.00

02:03:41.000 No, it's April Fool's Day.

02:03:42.000 You could do this with a hundred different things.

02:03:45.000 Education with the principles, where they get these principles and they're horrible...

02:03:50.000 And every single thing, almost every one of their energy independence, we have more liquid gold under our feet than any other country.

02:03:59.000 People don't. We have more than Saudi Arabia.

02:04:00.000 We have more than Russia. We were energy independent. 0.54

02:04:03.000 We were soon going to be energy dominant within a year.

02:04:06.000 We're going to make a fortune.

02:04:08.000 We're going to pay off debt.

02:04:09.000 We're going to lower taxes.

02:04:10.000 We're going to do things that were incredible.

02:04:12.000 And they stop it.

02:04:13.000 And they stopped it when it hit the all-time high.

02:04:17.000 Energy, the oil and gas hit.

02:04:20.000 An all-time high.

02:04:22.000 And they announced there will be no drilling.

02:04:24.000 And yet now we take it from Venezuela, which has tar, which has very bad stuff.

02:04:30.000 And it's refined in Houston because that's the only plants, those are the only plants that can refine Venezuela oil, which is lousy, which is thick, terrible, very bad.

02:04:40.000 If you're a big believer in what they say going into the atmosphere, it's the worst.

02:04:46.000 And we refine it. In Houston.

02:04:48.000 And we take their oil.

02:04:50.000 So here's the thing. We have no common sense in our country.

02:04:56.000 We have no leadership in our country.

02:04:58.000 We're not respected anywhere in the world.

02:05:00.000 They're laughing at us. They think we're fools. 0.99

02:05:03.000 And our country has lost its way. 0.99

02:05:05.000 We're a country in decline.

02:05:08.000 I say it in speeches now.

02:05:09.000 It hurts me to say it.

02:05:10.000 We're a failing nation. We're a country in decline.

02:05:13.000 Serious decline. I think I have to say serious decline.

02:05:17.000 And it was all self-imposed.

02:05:20.000 If they just left the energy policy the way it was, we wouldn't have had any inflation.

02:05:26.000 We wouldn't have had any inflation.

02:05:27.000 We had the greatest economy in history and we're going to do it again.

02:05:32.000 We had, without question, we had the greatest energy with the lowest prices we've ever had and they were coming down even further.

02:05:39.000 We had the greatest, it was the greatest moment prior to COVID coming in and then we fixed it and the stock market ended up at the end being higher than it was just pre-COVID and We had the greatest economy in the history of our country.

02:05:55.000 There was never a nation in the history of the world that did as well as we were doing just prior to COVID coming in.

02:06:02.000 I'll never forget, I had some people, some political people, very big ones, very good ones, and some pollsters in just prior to COVID coming in.

02:06:10.000 And we were talking about the election because it was coming down the road pretty soon.

02:06:14.000 And they said, if Abraham Lincoln and George Washington got together and came back from the dead, and they ran as president and vice president, they could not beat you.

02:06:23.000 And that's where our country was.

02:06:25.000 And the other thing, and just to finish up, people were coming together.

02:06:30.000 I was getting calls from people that you would not suspect.

02:06:33.000 And this country was coming together, African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American, people with great degrees from the best colleges, people with no degrees, people with no high school degree, people with only a high school degree.

02:06:47.000 Everybody was working.

02:06:48.000 We had 161 million people working.

02:06:51.000 We've never hit a number like that before or even close, including now.

02:06:55.000 It's a shame what's happened to our country.

02:06:58.000 Our country is now in trouble.

02:07:00.000 Look at these big cities.

02:07:01.000 They're rotting away. Nobody wants to live in our cities.

02:07:04.000 When I was young, the biggest thing I could do is get to Manhattan.

02:07:08.000 I want to get to Manhattan.

02:07:09.000 I'm going to make so much.

02:07:11.000 I'm going to build so many beautiful buildings.

02:07:14.000 So many beautiful buildings.

02:07:15.000 I'm going to build so beautiful, such beautiful buildings.

02:07:18.000 And I did that. That was a great thing.

02:07:21.000 Today, people don't want to be in the cities.

02:07:24.000 Well, it's scary. I know women that are afraid to walk down the streets. 1.00

02:07:26.000 Yeah. Well, listen, I think everyone understands that.

02:07:29.000 I think everyone's excited to get involved in 2024.

02:07:32.000 I think now, more than ever, they understand the stakes.

02:07:35.000 They understand the lies.

02:07:37.000 And perhaps it took decades.

02:07:39.000 The disaster we're going through to actually wake up people, people who are agnostic to politics, people who, you know, just busy trying to live their American dream.

02:07:46.000 But now they've watched that be exported to China and elsewhere at their expense.

02:07:51.000 And I think they're ready to actually fight back for their country.

02:07:54.000 So we're looking forward to 2024.

02:07:56.000 I hope they are, and I hope they're going to fight.

02:07:58.000 And if they don't fight, we're not going to have a country anymore because this country is in deep, deep trouble, including the possibility of World War III, which would be a nuclear war, which would be unlike anything that anybody or any nation has ever experienced.

02:08:13.000 And we're much closer than we are further.

02:08:16.000 I hope it doesn't happen.

02:08:18.000 But we have people that don't know what they're doing.

02:08:20.000 And we have China, and we have Russia, and they're teaming up, and now they have Iran, and they have North Korea, and they're all teaming up against us, and we have nobody.

02:08:27.000 We're losing countries, and they're gaining countries.

02:08:30.000 And if we lose our dollar standard, which is a real possibility now...

02:08:34.000 Every day? That will be like losing a war.

02:08:37.000 That would be in many ways bigger than losing a war.

02:08:40.000 So I hope people are going to get out and they're going to vote in the primaries and they're going to vote in the election.

02:08:46.000 And if we don't change government, we're not going to have a country anymore.

02:08:49.000 And that's a certainty. Okay, guys.

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