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00:09:20.000Guys, our country is literally $34 trillion in debt.
00:09:25.000Biden inflation is only making it worse.
00:09:27.000And the Fed just keeps printing more and more money.
00:09:30.000That means your costs go up and your quality of life goes down.
00:09:34.000So like I always say, I want you to be prepared.
00:09:36.000Don't just bury your head in the sand.
00:11:23.000I mean, that's what I look forward to.
00:11:25.000Someday, you know, some great, better angel of our nature take over.
00:11:29.000I do believe we have a collective together as a country, but I'm not sure we've taught it to enough people for them to understand that.
00:11:36.000Well, you know, again, I'm not going to hold my breath, but I'm hoping we get there because, you know, I think it's probably desperately needed.
00:12:03.000And there seems to be this growing politicization of medicine.
00:12:07.000You know, the science doesn't actually seem like science, or at least the science can be changed to sort of suit a narrative very quickly.
00:12:14.000We've especially noticed this post-COVID. We've seen, you know, the mandates, the lockdowns, you know, medical schools embracing DEI rather than competence and so much more.
00:12:24.000What are your concerns beyond the obvious?
00:12:27.000And what are your big missions right now in medicine?
00:12:31.000Well, let me put that up front and then explain on the backside of that.
00:12:35.000That's why I got involved with the wellness company, which I know you're involved with here, which is that I have been fighting my whole career to try to protect the sanctity and the autonomy of the physician and the physician-patient relationship.
00:12:50.000I fought... Fought through the opioid crisis.
00:12:54.000I'll tell you what that experience was like if you wish.
00:13:01.000And COVID was such an eye-opening experience for me that I figured it was just shocking and deeply disturbing to me how physicians behave during the pandemic that I thought, we've lost.
00:13:15.000It's over. We have to get things to the patients directly.
00:13:19.000And that's what wellness is all about, the wellness company.
00:13:23.000When the pandemic started and I saw my peers literally refusing to care for patients, I mean, their sacred duty is to go in, do the best they can for that patient in front of them, improvise, figure something out, and follow up.
00:13:41.000Why? Because it turns out three-quarters of them are employees, and their employer Big hospital systems, insurance, whoever it was, said, stand down.
00:14:03.000Then, anybody who wanted to try something, and this was the, I suppose I should reserve the word disgusting for this phase of the operation, Which was anyone who wanted to do something was vilified.
00:14:14.000People wanted to improvise, wanted to try things.
00:14:33.000The one I talk about, because again, it doesn't take a physician to sort of get it, was the vitriol, the vicious attacks for anyone who said, hey, do you think maybe the Wuhan virus came from the lab in Wuhan, China that studied said virus?
00:14:51.000And if you were in science and you said, I don't know Possibly?
00:14:56.000Probably? Of course it's the most plausible.
00:15:25.000Just how blind everyone went and just how all in they went for something that literally you could be a borderline imbecile and still be like, yeah, it probably came from there.
00:15:36.000Or at least be able to go, hmm, I wonder if that's a possibility.
00:15:42.000And if you said that, you were crushed.
00:15:45.000And by the way, I read the Nature letter.
00:16:11.000And so here's the things that were really disgusting.
00:16:13.000So look, I don't have a strong feeling about ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, but I do have a strong feeling about protecting a physician's privilege.
00:16:22.000For he or her to use what they feel they need to do in the best interest of the patient.
00:16:27.000It was interesting. When this was all going on, I was doing a nightly show here locally on the news, and my co-host, a great guy and a smart guy, we talked about something like this, and he says, what about the FDA? And I said, I don't...
00:16:42.000Why do I care about the FDA? The FDA has nothing, nothing to do with the practice of medicine.
00:16:47.000The FDA determines under what circumstance a product is brought to market by a company.
00:16:52.000Then what is done with it is completely at the liberty of the physicians.
00:16:57.000We can do literally anything with anything if we believe it's in the best interest of our patient.
00:17:03.000That's it. I taught medicine for years.
00:17:42.000This was... Look, the thing that gets me...
00:17:45.000And this is what everyone in your audience needs to be aware of.
00:17:48.000And this is what I talk about, not infrequently, on my Rumble stream.
00:17:52.000Please do sign up, by the way, subscribe to my Rumble channel.
00:17:55.000That's Dr. Drew. But is that whenever you see a scientist or a clinician evangelizing, I don't mean religiously evangelizing, I mean evangelizing on a topic.
00:18:08.000All of your concerns should go up immediately.
00:18:15.000People don't know that the story on the opioid crisis, people want to blame the drug companies, which were duplicitous, and they're paying a price for it.
00:18:23.000But the real culprits, the people that created it and perpetrated it, were the evangelizing physicians who believed they knew what was best, and they were going to save the world from pain.
00:18:34.000There should never be pain in the United States ever.
00:18:38.000Sound familiar? Deborah Birx, evangelizing for lockdowns.
00:18:42.000Immediately, we should be going, wait, wait a minute.
00:18:53.000Honestly, one of the, let's call it, more aggressive conversations I've ever had with a doctor or, frankly, anyone outside of maybe some pretty aggressive business negotiations with my children's pediatrician at the time.
00:19:07.000It was like, literally, We must vaccinate your kids!
00:19:10.000And I'm like, wait, wait, wait. Please explain to me why.
00:19:12.000Like, I'm not a doctor, and I'll be open to your logic, but I'm saying I am, you know, a finance guy.
00:19:21.000I understand math. I can look at something, and I'm looking at, like...
00:19:24.000There's a 0% chance within, you know, unless there's maybe some sort of, you know, gross pre-existing condition that we were aware of or not aware of, that, like, my children would be susceptible to this.
00:19:37.000If you're, you know, my 85-year-old grandmother or my 97-year-old grandmother, man, that's different.
00:19:41.000But it... My children at the time, all basically under the age of 12, they were in the 0% chance of major problems category, and yet they were like, we must do that.
00:20:38.000Stop COVID! Now, if there was something about this virus that the public wasn't being told, that our government knew, In other words, it was a bioweapon or something.
00:20:49.000It had potential to morph into something more serious because of the way they designed it.
00:20:53.000Well, by all means, let's vaccinate because that is a serious unknown risk that we might be protecting ourselves against.
00:21:00.000On the Vax side, I'm imagining at the point this was being recommended, we really didn't fully understand the risk of the vaccine to pediatric patients.
00:21:18.000In other words, if there's 80 measles deaths, we've got to vaccinate the whole country.
00:21:22.000And that's sort of how they think about it.
00:21:23.000As an adult, it's not how we think about it.
00:21:26.000We think about what are the risks, how many years of life are saved, what kind of quality of life could be restored or lost.
00:21:33.000It's all kinds of things we think about that pediatricians don't think about.
00:21:36.000But by the way, speaking of pediatricians, remind yourself, Of the behavior of some of the public health officials during this COVID thing, which was bizarre.
00:21:46.000I looked at who these guys were, these people were.
00:22:45.000Fine. But there's a really interesting thing happening, which is that people are having difficulty right now understanding even the difference between the utility of the vaccine in, say, September of 2020 and And you tell you the vaccine over the last year.
00:23:13.000I'm very, very, very worried about the young males because I've seen a lot of cardiac problems from the vaccine.
00:23:19.000I've also seen a lot of what we call long COVID from the vaccine.
00:23:23.000So this is a concern here, even in adult populations, but especially in young adult population males where we're seeing all this cardiac injury.
00:23:33.000And, you know, people argue, oh, it's only 1 in 15,000.
00:23:36.000It's only 1 in 5,000 and you're worrying about it.
00:23:39.000Yes, it is only 1 in 5,000 or 1 in 10,000 or 1 in 15,000 that are going to be hurt for an illness for whom the risk for that population is zero.
00:23:49.000Literally zero. So why would I do that?
00:23:52.000Why would I take any risk in vaccinating that population?
00:23:57.000The hysteria that captured us was really shocking to me.
00:24:00.000And it captured my profession as well as everywhere else.
00:24:03.000Yeah, I mean, you touched on it a little bit, but obviously a big part of sort of the COVID chaos seemed to be centered around those major institutions just trying to undermine medical freedom itself.
00:24:16.000They've done a lot with speech, but it really seemed like it was just a power grab, right?
00:24:47.000I'm sure he must have in his private moments not felt great about what he was doing to people, but it's something that if If I had done, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.
00:24:57.000I didn't do it. I had trouble sleeping at night.
00:24:59.000I remember I kept thinking about Disneyland versus Disney World.
00:25:03.000I thought, my God, the tens of thousands of jobs and businesses we've destroyed around Disneyland on our second year of lockdown versus Disney World where it's been open the whole time.
00:25:15.000It's just, I couldn't, I can't understand how you can sleep at night when you know you have an A-B test.
00:25:23.000Change direction. How skeptical should people like myself or yourself or anyone watching be of some of these bigger institutions like the World Health Organization or perhaps even our own CDC or the NIH? Because it feels like they're just, in the sort of case of the World Health Organization, it felt like they were like China's marketing department.
00:25:46.000Sure. It doesn't have to make any sense.
00:25:49.000It doesn't have to be real. Are you familiar with the treaty that they are passing around right now?
00:25:55.000Do you know about this? Give us the outline.
00:25:57.000Your audience needs to know about this.
00:25:59.000So the World Health Organization has decided that not only did they do a great job during COVID, they need to make sure that they're given the necessary instruments when disease X comes along, which it sounds like they're actually planning it, When the next thing comes along, they can do whatever they want to keep us safe.
00:26:25.000In this treaty, they are literally going to usurp sovereign authority over all elected officials internationally should they feel it's necessary.
00:26:35.000If the climate gets to be too far, they feel it's necessary.
00:26:38.000If the food supply, too many McDonald's hamburgers being served, they might decide to do so.
00:26:45.000And if there's a pandemic, the opposite of what we need to do.
00:26:48.000Look, this conflict between over-centralization and decentralization has been at the centerpiece of how governments are...
00:27:01.000The Jacobins wanted to continue what the monarchs had, which was a massive administrative state, but they wanted it more bureaucratic and they wanted it run by the people, and the Giridins wanted it decentralized.
00:27:15.000I would argue that anytime medicine, anything that adulterates or comes into and interferes with the patient-physician relationship, you are getting a less effective, less efficient, more expensive, worse care.
00:27:29.000Anything. It's just, I'd seen it my entire career.
00:27:33.000And so when you think about these larger institutions, my whole career, they were sort of advisory.
00:27:40.000They were around publishing things that we would read.
00:27:42.000That's their role. Their role is not to determine what I do for you.
00:27:47.000I have to decide what is in your best interest, the person sitting there.
00:27:52.000We have become a profession of box checkers on the electronic medical record.
00:27:57.000That is the opposite of Of practicing medicine.
00:28:00.000You go to a doctor for the application of his or her judgment, not just their knowledge, but their judgment, which is making the right call for the complexities of your individual circumstance, your family, your life, your belief system, your biology, making that decision for you, and that it cannot be done with a bunch of checkmarks.
00:28:22.000Yeah, I mean, in the case of at least the World Health Organization and probably CDC, I look at the things that they try to make pandemic, and you realize it's not a medical pandemic.
00:28:31.000They're trying to do things so they can exert that control.
00:28:34.000It doesn't matter necessarily how you feel about the topic, but I'm a big Second Amendment guy.
00:28:39.000The gun crisis, we must ban the Second Amendment because it's a medical condition, and it feels like this is the framework.
00:28:45.000To set that up, to eliminate eventually all of our rights, because there's some way that someone medically was affected somewhere along the line, and therefore we have total control.
00:28:55.000The Bill of Rights was there to limit the power of government.
00:28:59.000Our government was about limiting power of government.
00:29:01.000We fought a revolution about limiting the power of government.
00:29:04.000All of a sudden, we've decided that the government knows best?
00:30:19.000That's what started this whole thing in the late 80s, early 90s.
00:30:21.000And we froze, sent everything to pain medicine.
00:30:24.000They were the evangelists, and off it went.
00:30:27.000I never actually knew that, or the history of how it started.
00:30:30.000It does not at all surprise me that our laws and regulations also started the problems.
00:30:36.000I mean, I think we're the cause of and solution for all of our own problems.
00:30:40.000Fascinating. That's an interesting one, but...
00:30:43.000I guess with the opioid crisis, I'm not saying it's taken care of.
00:30:47.000Obviously, it's still a... It's different.
00:30:49.000It's probably on the decline while the fentanyl crisis across the country is just exploding.
00:30:57.000Exploding. Can you talk about the differences, why fentanyl specifically is just, it's so addictive and so destructive, and, you know, the impact it's having across the country, and again, more importantly, how do we fix that one?
00:31:11.000If you say, you know, sessions with a stroke of a pen could go in there and arrest a couple of guys that were clearly abusing the system for profit, and all of a sudden it's like, oh, well, I guess we'll just stop doing that, you know?
00:31:23.000Even if you're perhaps innocently abusing it or kind of in between.
00:31:26.000Maybe you're not a scarface, but you're getting close.
00:31:33.000How do we fix the fentanyl side of that?
00:31:36.000Because I can't go a day, and I'm on the trail a lot, so I speak to people.
00:31:40.000But the amount of people that come out, I lost my son, my nephew, my brother, my best friend.
00:31:45.000Just every demographic, every this, totally indiscriminate.
00:31:48.000How do we fix that, and how did it start?
00:31:51.000It's hard. It started, well, heroin's always been there, right?
00:31:57.000The heroin sort of number has always been around for the last 50 years.
00:32:02.000Well, the reason things started escalating is on the heels of stopping prescribing opiates.
00:32:09.000So when my profession stopped being the dealers, because most of my peers don't really understand addiction, They took all those patients that were now, when they started looking at what was going on, and went, oh my god, these are drug addicts.
00:32:55.000Is that because of liability? They're worried, hey, if I acknowledge that I maybe did something wrong, I'm going to get sued and I'm going to lose my license and my practice.
00:33:02.000I mean, some of it because, again, they were scared to death when doctors started going to prison, right?
00:33:06.000They were like, oh my God, what's going to happen here?
00:33:08.000And by the way, now you can't get pain treated.
00:33:11.000Now they've gotten overly involved with not treating opiates, which is, we're so insane with this.
00:33:45.000They got heroin. Heroin started escalating rapidly.
00:33:49.000Once you're addicted to opiates, you will always go to better, cheaper.
00:33:54.000That's just the nature of the disorder.
00:33:57.000So fentanyl, which is a good medication for pain in a hospital setting, they started manufacturing it for the street, and of course it took over.
00:34:05.000The other thing that's happened, which is a secondary phenomenon within the crisis, Is they've started mixing it in with everything, and so people that may be sort of experimenting with stuff online are getting exposed to opiates and inadvertently overdosing.
00:34:21.000Those people aren't even drug addicts.
00:34:22.000That's a separate category, and that is a rapidly increasing category.
00:34:25.000But the drug addict category, which is the massive problem, which is everyone on the streets here in Los Angeles, whom are dying at the rate of eight a day in LA County, it's tantamount to negligent manslaughter.
00:34:38.000It is homicide. That's what this city allows.
00:34:41.000All these city officials are duplicitous in homicide.
00:35:36.000But if you're not allowed, like in California, to get near anybody and tell them they need help and try to help them, you're not allowed, well then they're going to die.
00:35:45.000It's a fatal illness, and fentanyl addiction is a fatal illness.
00:35:56.000Well done. Well, can you talk a little bit more about what addiction actually or exactly is?
00:36:03.000You said that even doctors, medical professionals, people who went to med school, your peers, maybe not in addiction, but they don't even understand what it is.
00:36:14.000How does someone else understand what it is?
00:36:16.000What does it mean to be addicted to something?
00:36:22.000And how do doctors not understand that?
00:36:25.000Well, because it takes over all the functions of the brain.
00:36:31.000All the priorities decline and one priority emerges, which is use that drug.
00:36:37.000That drug, whatever the drug of choice is, becomes synonymous with survival.
00:36:42.000And it causes so much strange thinking and strange behavior and strange motivation, it's hard to use a normal brain to understand what is happening.
00:36:52.000So you have to have lots of exposure to how this condition affects people, humans, once they get going with it.
00:37:00.000So fundamentally, addiction is a genetic disorder with a biological basis.
00:37:05.000The hallmark is progressive use in the face of adverse consequence and denial.
00:37:09.000That's pretty much it. Now, what's happening when that happens is we know some of the genetic potential and there's multiple gene influences.
00:37:17.000I've treated literally 10,000 drug addicts in my career.
00:37:21.000I could always see a family history in the background.
00:37:23.000Even if it was shrouded in sort of euphemisms, you could see it.
00:37:27.000It's always alcoholism or something there.
00:38:35.000You go back because that motivational priority It's always there now if you're genetically predisposed to that switch being thrown.
00:38:44.000But once the switch is thrown, all these other wonderful systems in our brain, our cognition, our thinking, our social functioning, all serve the false god of do that again, do that drug again.
00:38:58.000I mean, are there sort of genetic markers that people can test for to see if they're more susceptible or less susceptible at certain levels?
00:39:04.000Just, you know, because some people, obviously, you see it, I know it through a family history or something like that.
00:39:10.000You see, you know, it went down the line and, you know, you got it.
00:39:13.000Congratulations. We all know people like that.
00:39:17.000But are there other ways that people can find out if they're not sure just so they never test it?
00:39:21.000You know, I know there are people that can go out and have two, three glasses of wine, and I know that people...
00:39:56.000They are available on a research basis.
00:39:58.000I'm not aware of anything really useful that is available on a commercial basis yet, but you can kind of tell.
00:40:04.000I'll tell you what. In most genetic settings, the probability of one child getting the gene, whether one or both parents have it, is about 50%.
00:40:17.000There are certain genetic heritages where it's higher.
00:40:22.000Cherokee Native Americans seems to be higher.
00:40:25.000Believe it or not, Mormon population seems to be higher.
00:40:30.000There are different regions of the world where the penetration of the gene is higher.
00:40:36.000But generally, it's about 50% per child.
00:40:39.000And usually, that person kind of knows it.
00:40:41.000And it's interesting. And the one that doesn't have it, of course, will be the one that's like, I'm never touching alcohol.
00:41:26.000If you look at populations that have been extremely distressed, particularly with multiple generations of genocidal assaults, Scotland, North America, certain regions where populations have been isolated.
00:41:41.000I mean, Scotland's sort of the greatest example of this.
00:41:44.000And then assaulted repeatedly, repeatedly.
00:42:31.000They make great, evidently, they keep their wits about them.
00:42:34.000They fight better frontally than those of us without this gene.
00:42:38.000And so it has adaptive advantage in extraordinary circumstances.
00:42:41.000So the point being, don't be pejorative in relation to almost anything in the mental health sphere.
00:42:47.000Things have adapted for a reason, and they have advantages in certain circumstances, disadvantages in others.
00:42:54.000Talk about that a little bit, because it feels like there is, and I think it's getting better, but there is still sort of perhaps a stigma around being treated for mental illness or addiction or these sorts of things that perhaps prevents people.
00:43:10.000I talk with a lot of people that are like, oh, I didn't know you were in therapy for a long time.
00:43:13.000And they actually have such a better worldview about things that it actually is helpful.
00:43:18.000Yet, even I have sort of that old school, like, I'm fine.
00:43:24.000Yeah. I mean, again, when you live in the world where you're inundated with these conditions and things, you start to sort of see it as the spectrum of what the human experience is, right?
00:43:37.000And it all is sort of beautiful, really.
00:43:41.000People suffer. It's hard to be in relationships sometimes with people with these conditions.
00:43:45.000But it's not, strictly speaking, good or bad.
00:43:48.000Now, people in some of these conditions can do bad things because of the condition, but not because the human is bad or the condition is bad.
00:44:17.000You can say, I'm okay, and that's one way of adapting, and that's a good way of adapting for some people, and other people, they need something a little bit more.
00:44:24.000Generally speaking, you know, there was a, was it, Abigail Schreier just wrote a book about the over-therapizing of particularly young people, and I agree with her.
00:45:21.000This is what we do. It's what, oh shoot, I'm blanking the name of the famous psychiatrist who wrote the book about the concentration camps in Germany.
00:45:28.000His conclusion was, of course, same, which is people survive because they're able to make meaning of their circumstances.
00:45:45.000I'm wondering if you could talk at all about your experiences and how they've shaped your views on medicine and what is ultimately effective treatment.
00:45:55.000You know, having sort of seen everything, right?
00:45:57.000Dealing with treatment from, you know, the lowest levels to perhaps the highest levels, you know, of...
00:46:03.000People in society and their ability to actually deal with it and how that changes.
00:46:18.000Well, here's one thing I've learned, and I bet you'll appreciate this, is that That because somebody has a public job or persona or platform, doesn't make them really any different than anybody else.
00:46:36.000It's not like there's a handbook, like I have to open up a separate diagnostic manual for celebrities.
00:46:44.000And whether the medical problems they get are the same, the psychiatric problems they get are the same, the interpersonal problems are the same.
00:46:51.000There, of course, are specifics of any given circumstance, whether you have money, don't have money, Have a public thing, whatever it is that impact on it, but it's really all the same.
00:47:23.000I mean, the lack of religion right now, you've got to remember that the big injunction in religion was that we're sinners, we're flawed, we pray for forgiveness, and then be careful about our emotions, particularly be careful about envy and aggression.
00:47:38.000Which are completely on the loose right now, completely being indulged.
00:48:06.000My dad was an old family practitioner.
00:48:08.000He raised me, hammered into me the notion that Only when it's worth the risk you take a medication.
00:48:14.000I was never allowed to take an antibiotic until I was 15.
00:48:18.000I remember the moment when he pulled it out because my pediatrician wanted and he had some samples and so he's following the direction of the pediatrician.
00:48:26.000He put them on the table and he goes, all right, here we go.
00:48:29.000Who knows what the consequence will be, but he wants you to take it.
00:49:22.000We have to really re-entrench in those basics, I think, so we're not coming to people like me in real trouble and needing medication.
00:49:31.000I gotta ask, because it's sort of a pop culture kind of thing right now, but every person I ever see in the last year that's actually lost some weight, I'm like, so did you start working out?
00:49:40.000No, no, no, I got an Ozempic or Majordo.
00:49:52.000Are there long-term effects that we haven't even figured out as literally half the country seems to be on these things?
00:49:57.000But I don't know anyone that's done it the old-fashioned way, just eating less without sort of chemical induction of appetite reduction.
00:50:05.000Yeah. So I've gotten, I've been a workout fiend my whole life and it's getting more challenging maintaining my, and you know, and in terms of longevity, uh, my brother, my friend, Peter Atiyah said, I was, I was asking him about various things.
00:50:18.000I had various ideas and he finally snapped at me and went vigorous exercise.
00:50:21.000Vigorous exercise. That is the number one thing in extending life.
00:50:26.000And I thought, yeah, that's about right.
00:50:28.000And so if you're taking Ozembic as opposed to exercising, you are not enhancing your health.
00:50:33.000It may be improving the weight situation a little bit, but we, back to your point, we don't know the long-term consequences.
00:50:40.000I'll tell you the consequences I have seen.
00:50:42.000Which is gastroparesis, which is a paralysis of the stomach's ability to contract and move food through.
00:50:48.000And people hear that and they think, oh, what's that?
00:51:28.000Weight loss is the numero uno priority we could really impact on their life, as opposed to the Someone out here in Santa Monica that needs to lose five pounds, we don't know the consequence of that.
00:51:44.000And as opposed to diet and exercise, where not only is there no risk that I can think of other than turning your ankle or getting shoulder problems like I have, but other than that, it's only benefit.
00:51:56.000Only benefit. And benefit in multiple ways, not just weight loss and feeling good and reducing insulin resistance and all those good balance, hormonal balance issues.
00:52:11.000Now, since we started getting into the meaning of life, this was going to be sort of a question really about addiction.
00:52:17.000But, you know, as it relates to the meaning of life and that being sort of a harder-to-figure-out goal for a lot of people, how do you think that technology and social media are affecting different types of addiction?
00:52:30.000And, again... Perhaps even just the psychological impact.
00:52:34.000I see people. I'm guilty of it myself.
00:52:37.000I'm very present in the various platforms and large followings, but I also know other people who are, and I see the life that's on display for the world to see, and then I see them behind the scenes.
00:52:47.000I'm like, these are two... Two very different people, but it's creating, I would think, again, there's an addiction component, but there's also got to be a very big psychological component where everyone who's following their favorite celebrity or otherwise thinks their life is perfect, thinks they're beyond reproach, thinks that they're this, that, and the other.
00:53:04.000And it's so far flawed and true once you actually get to know these people.
00:53:07.000But I imagine that's got to be causing serious, serious crises, both with addiction and mental health.
00:53:15.000So on so many levels, we don't even know yet.
00:53:19.000A friend of mine is a brilliant psychologist, and she spends her whole day just working with young women because of the consequences of social media.
00:53:28.000She limits her kids to two hours a day, and that's it.
00:53:32.000But there's so much consequence and so protein the consequences that you literally could build a practice of psychology just in one gender, the impact of social media.
00:53:48.000It's going at that same mechanism in the medial forebrain bundle.
00:53:51.000I was telling you that people call it a dopamine surge.
00:53:55.000I actually don't believe you feel anything when you get a dopamine surge except A impulse, which can come through multiple different screens in the brain, an impulse to do the behavior again.
00:54:06.000The behavior may feel good, and that's the endorphin system, but the do-it-again part, I don't think you really feel anything.
00:54:13.000But it reminds me to talk about a famous experiment in capuchin monkeys.
00:54:20.000And, you know, you want to understand humans.
00:54:22.000Look at our closest primate relatives.
00:54:52.000The researcher hands the first monkey the cucumber.
00:54:56.000The monkey throws the cucumber back at the monkey.
00:54:59.000The human primates will literally forego a reward that they were perfectly happy with five minutes before if some other like creature gets something more.
00:55:15.000That sounds brutal for our future prospects based on everything that I see on a daily basis.
00:55:19.000I know. But then think about you're 15 and now think about social media.
00:55:23.000All you see are people who look better, having more fun, doing more things.
00:55:29.000How do you find happiness when all you see is people with more raining down on you?
00:55:35.000It's in our nature to have feelings about that that are problematic.
00:55:40.000And we have to, I don't know how we deal with it, frankly, because it's so deep in our psychology.
00:55:44.000We have to figure out ways to sort of, again, it's back to what I was saying earlier.
00:55:49.000Those things are really not meaningful for the human being, because the human being, what's actually meaningful is important relationships, service, meaning-making is much more important than all that stuff.
00:55:59.000But that stuff gets in. It gets in, especially when you're an adolescent.
00:56:05.000And you're right, I guess we're going to have, you know, in the coming years, we'll figure it out.
00:56:08.000We'll see the results a lot more, probably for the worst.
00:56:11.000But I wanted to ask about, you know, during COVID, we saw this sort of emergence of a new genre of like, you know, so-called medical experts.
00:56:20.000You know, I saw this a lot. It was like, you know, the telepsychologist, not really a psychologist, but, you know, I remember with my dad, he's like, well, he picked up a glass with two hands.
00:56:28.000Therefore, he's in the later stages of dementia and Alzheimer's combined, or like, One time, I guess he was speaking, I think it was like the West Point graduation or something and it was raining and he's like, he's walking down a ramp in like, you know, business shoes that not exactly, you know, treads and stuff like that.
00:56:43.000And like he held onto the railing and it was like, he's, it's all over.
00:56:48.000They spend their time basically demonizing anyone who disagrees with them.
00:56:54.000You've seen, whether it's one of them like Dr.
00:56:57.000Peter Hotez, he's out there claiming now that there's a far-right conspiracy to discredit organizations like the FDA to promote alternative medicines like ivermectin.
00:58:33.000You are not adulterated in your high position, but my lowly position as a caretaker, I'm going to be adulterated by a pen?
00:58:40.000By the way, full disclosure, I took a cup of coffee from a drug company yesterday because it was a medicine I was prescribing for a patient and I wanted to get it for free for the patient.
00:58:51.000But that's the only reason I would talk to a drug company.
00:58:56.000So here's the biggest problem with all the experts on TV. And I actually had the opportunity to interview, do you remember the Yale professor of psychiatry?
00:59:07.000Who was saying that your father had some sort of major, major...
00:59:11.000I interviewed her and I said, look, I want to describe two cases to you.
00:59:17.000And I described, first case, I said, well, this guy had suicidal depressions.
00:59:23.000In fact, they were so bad that his friends would have to stand vigil over him and make sure no sharp objects were around him.
00:59:28.000He became obsessed that he had syphilis.
00:59:30.000He was very obsessional. He actually took mercury all the way until he went into office.
00:59:34.000And that seemed to make his depression worse.
00:59:36.000Should that guy be a president of the United States?
00:59:39.000And I described how he was so depressed, he was dragging his son down the street one day, the son spilled out of the wagon, and he still walked another mile without realizing that the son was out of the wagon.
01:00:30.000Hopefully the crowd picks the best person for the best circumstance, and sometimes they don't.
01:00:35.000And that's, there's no way, there's no way to, what are we going to give, psych testing to everybody and decide what the scale should be of a given individual for a given office?
01:00:43.000That's insane. That's not how humans work.
01:00:45.000When we're talking about impact, having on the future of doctors and medical schools, if you remember back in, I guess it was 2022, pretty big medical university, there was a medical student that posted on social media that she intentionally botched a patient's blood draw because he laughed at her pronouns pins.
01:01:05.000Yeah. Are politics infecting doctors' relationships with patients now?
01:01:11.000I've heard it, same thing, you know, with nurses.
01:01:14.000It's like, you could see, you know, this person, you know, reasonably famous person or a conservative, it was a liberal nurse, and you could see, like, they weren't You know, honoring their, you know, the Hippocratic oath, so to speak.
01:01:25.000You know, they were clearly not functioning that way.
01:01:28.000What do you see happening on with that?
01:01:29.000I mean, imagine, I can't even imagine being, as a human, doing that to someone, but I guess it's happening.
01:01:34.000It is happening, and unfortunately, politics has infected everything.
01:01:39.000It's just so bizarre that we live in that world right now, and it's crept into areas where it has no business, and this is definitely one of those areas.
01:01:49.000I remember once I was a resident and I was called down to the ER to see a case.
01:01:55.000And I guess it was the DEA brought in these three guys.
01:02:01.000They'd just been in a gun battle and had killed several agents.
01:02:07.000They were horrific, violent drug dealers with an unbelievable record behind them.
01:02:14.000And I thought to myself, I do not want to take care.
01:02:17.000I kind of hope this didn't go well for these creatures that were down there.
01:02:23.000But I put all that aside and did my job on behalf of the human being that I was asked to help.
01:02:31.000I didn't allow my feelings, which were...
01:02:35.000You know, who knows how right I was or not about how horrible this person was or what their life was, whatever.
01:02:40.000My job was to put it all aside and take care of the human being in front of me, which I did.
01:02:45.000And that phenomenon of putting it all aside Whatever your personal biases are, how tired you are, how sick you are, how miserable you are, that's why we worked in training those long hours.
01:02:59.000That's why we were told three days in the hospital, and now I'm getting up again, I haven't slept in a couple days, and put it aside and make a good decision for that patient.
01:03:12.000That training isn't even happening so much.
01:03:14.000So without that training of doing that, I don't know how we bring it back except to stop making the profession of medicine something you punch in and punch out of and pass along to somebody else at 5 o'clock.
01:03:28.000That's where the problem is getting...
01:03:33.000Getting percolating. That's where it's happening.
01:03:35.000It's right there. It's not just that politics is getting into everything.
01:03:40.000It is. But what's happening as a result, because the training is not quite as rigorous as, you know, look, when I was in training, too, there were old 65-year-old doctors like myself going, when men were men, you know, when back in our day.
01:03:54.000So I'm that guy. But I really do feel that strongly that we need to get much.
01:04:00.000And we've lost We've lost track of the importance and the sacrality of it.
01:04:04.000We really have. And we see that a lot, right?
01:04:06.000I mean, you see some of the DEI stuff coming out of medical schools and they're like...
01:04:10.000Well, you know, we had to cut down residency requirements because, you know, it was weeding out, you know, too many, you know, people of whatever demographic it was that, I'm like, well, maybe should they have been there in the first place?
01:04:26.000That's it. And look, there are, I'm not saying there weren't things that, I like the fact that we're diversifying more amongst physicians.
01:04:35.000It's a good thing. But to put that as a priority over the patient, or does it somehow leak into that?
01:04:41.000Oh, now we got a problem. Now we got a problem.
01:04:43.000So I guess lastly, when you host Ask Dr.
01:04:46.000Drew, you know, what are the top issues and concerns viewers ask about?
01:04:50.000And are there some that are sort of actually surprises, things that you wouldn't think would be such a big deal, but that keep coming up regularly that people got to be aware of?
01:04:58.000Well, the thing, it's so interesting that that show, it's become my pride and joy right now.
01:05:07.000My wife produces it, and it's something I really enjoy doing every day.
01:05:10.000We do it mostly Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday at 3 o'clock.
01:05:15.000And it started as me just essentially doing almost like a Facebook Live kind of thing.
01:05:22.000I think it actually may have been where we started it.
01:05:24.000Just trying to, in the darkest hours of COVID, I felt like I was literally the French underground.
01:05:31.000Really, I kept saying, this feels like what the French underground must have felt like because I was trying to share information that would get me canceled if it were in the general media.
01:05:41.000And I was sort of struggling out loud with what's going on?
01:05:45.000What can we trust? What's happening here?
01:05:54.000And then one of my strategies became You know, these people that are being silenced, that are being canceled, almost without exception, are decorated professionals, highly published, great teachers.
01:06:10.000These are the people we should be listening to.
01:07:35.000I need to just keep doing it, and if something is sort of unpopular or stressful or...
01:07:43.000Dangerous, that's sort of where I'm going now.
01:07:46.000It's kind of a weird position to be in.
01:07:48.000It's definitely not consistent with my psychology, but it is consistent with my belief system right now.
01:07:53.000We have to stand up. We have to speak out.
01:07:55.000We have to talk to people that have been silenced.
01:07:57.000We have to not put up with the nonsense.
01:08:00.000Again, my opinions are very moderate, and I'm always changing them.
01:08:05.000And it's okay. And because of that, I have to go into situations that somebody may not like, or interview somebody that somebody may not like.
01:08:14.000It's the way it goes. We're going to keep doing it.
01:08:17.000It's sort of like the opposite of what you got out of like a Fauci, where it's like he's probably never the best doctor, but he was the best bureaucrat, and he was good at anyone who got in his way or prevented, you know, he'd figure out how to snake him.
01:08:28.000It seems like he's been wrong for 35 years about literally everything, but it doesn't matter because he played that game better.
01:08:34.000And we don't make the distinction between the bureaucrats and the doctors.
01:08:38.000You're just like, well, he's got a high position of power.
01:08:39.000I think we do now. Maybe that's one of the good things we've learned from COVID, because at the time, what do you know?
01:08:44.000But in hindsight, looking back, you're like, wait a minute, this is crazy.
01:08:47.000Bureaucrats, bureaucracy is the enemy.
01:08:50.000Bureaucrats are just doing what bureaucrats do.
01:08:53.000And to the extent that bureaucracy is, bureaucracy can't make good risk-reward decisions, it can't be nuanced, it can't change direction, stay out of our business system.
01:09:17.000I was treating lots of AIDS. It was a dark period of history.
01:09:20.000And what people don't appreciate, look, I was there when we opened the AZT boxes, and finally we had something we could do for these young men other than tell them they were going to die.
01:09:30.000As a student and a resident, I was just constantly telling men they were going to die in six months.
01:09:34.000That's all we did. Now I had something that maybe could extend their life by three months or six months, and maybe in that interval we can come up with another antiviral that extended another three months.
01:09:44.000And that's what happened. And so, however it got there, I don't really have an opinion about those shenanigans, but it was something we could do for these young men.
01:09:52.000It was in the darkest hours of a pandemic.
01:09:54.000Don't forget, you know, the case fatality rate, their infection fatality rate for COVID is 0.2, 0.02, essentially.
01:10:48.000I'm very, very worried about free speech.
01:10:49.000I'm very, very, very worried. I'm an absolutist.
01:10:51.000And so I want an environment where people can speak their mind.
01:10:54.000That's really what I'm trying to do on Rumble.
01:10:57.000It's what I want to do in this post show.
01:10:58.000It's like, just everybody, let's talk.
01:11:01.000Let's speak our minds. Yeah, it really actually seems like there's a demand for that.
01:11:04.000Sometimes if I'm going crazy, my show is just literally like an ask me anything.
01:11:10.000I've functioned at a pretty high level in a lot of places, and it's just the questions, and you're watching the viewership, and people are actually really into that.
01:11:17.000So I think there is both a general lack of discourse and a desire for just that sort of free speech absolutism.
01:11:41.000Probably a lot more political about many of those things.
01:11:43.000But, you know, again, I think people are starting to see it.
01:11:46.000Well, I hope so, because it is so important.
01:11:49.000I've fallen into a rabbit hole studying the French Revolution and early 20th century Russia, and the correlations are so profound.
01:11:56.000And the protections we have, the brilliance of our system, the states, this is what's protecting us.
01:12:02.000And right in the center of it is our ability to say, to talk, to speak to each other, to share ideas.
01:12:10.000And, you know, Alexis de Tocqueville in the 1820s came out here and analyzed our system.
01:12:15.000Democracy in America was his famous document, his famous book.
01:12:18.000And he said, you know, you have the most extreme privilege of free speech in the law, but you actually can't practice it because of what he called the public square.
01:12:26.000And that's what's happening right now.
01:12:27.000We crush each other in the public square, and we got to not do that.
01:13:20.000We got to reward those who understand what we're doing and we'll take that risk.
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