Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - November 03, 2023


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Donald Trump Jr. fires off jokes during civil fraud trial. Is it really so hard to be a lawyer in New York City if you don t have a background in accounting? Trump Jr explains why he decided to take the stand in his father's civil trial and why he thinks accounting should be left to accountants. He also talks about the implications for business if accounting is not part of the process in civil fraud cases and why this is a problem for business in the United States. And, of course, he gives us an update on the ongoing case against his father, Donald Trump Sr. and the rest of the Trump clan in the ongoing Trump v. New York civil trial. It's a long story, but it's a story worth listening to, and I think you'll agree that it's one that's worth the listen. You'll also get a chance to hear his thoughts on why accounting is a vital part of running a business and why it should be part of business, not just in civil cases, and why accounting shouldn't be left in the hands of a CPA. You can't ask for much more. You're not going to get more information about accounting than that in this episode, and you're not getting much more information on accounting in a civil case than right here. You don't want to miss it, right? You'll have to listen to the whole thing. Triggered! Subscribe to get immediate access to all the latest episodes of the show and other related to this podcast wherever you get your favourite shows on the airwaves, social media, and the internet. You won't be able to access the latest news and social media updates. . Thank you for listening to the show? . . . Thank you so much for your support, and support the show, it really does mean a lot to me, I really appreciate it. I really do appreciate it, really really does appreciate it and I appreciate it a lot, really helps me tremendously. I'll be back next week. -Trying to make it all the best -Podcasts Tweet me out there. Timestamps: Thanks for listening Timestamp Text Me Outtro: , & I'll send it out to you, bye, bye <3 -Tristan :D , and I'll see you in the next week, Timestaffing Meghan

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00:00:00.000 you you
00:05:01.000 you okay guys hope you're doing well
00:05:31.000 Welcome to another episode of Triggered.
00:05:34.000 Obviously a great friend is our guest tonight.
00:05:37.000 I had to do this two days ago simply because I was this week subjected to the continued Persecution by the Attorney General of the State of New York, where I did two days of testimony in my father's civil trial. 0.99
00:06:01.000 You know, the usual idiots on social, oh my god, you're going to jail, you plead a fifth. 0.95
00:06:05.000 It's a civil trial, and it's, as far as I'm concerned, it's basically attempted extortion to try to penalize a political enemy. 1.00
00:06:15.000 But at this point, anyone who's been watching this show realizes this.
00:06:19.000 I actually was sort of shocked.
00:06:20.000 I got, like, good articles from, like, the BBC and CNN. And, you know, I guess I had the courtroom laughing a little bit.
00:06:29.000 And, you know, shockingly, shockingly, the prosecutors don't understand that maybe I would leave accounting to accountants.
00:06:41.000 You know, just like, I don't know too many people that would leave, you know, surgery to themselves, they rely on surgeons and people who are trained in those fields, and that is the problem, I guess, for their case, that I would rely on people who are experts, who are paid millions of dollars to be experts, and the fact that I relied on them, I'm supposed to, I guess, overrule that.
00:07:04.000 I'm not 100% sure, but I guess that's where we are.
00:07:10.000 No different than the other cases that you see, whether it's Georgia or Florida or D.C. or whatever it is.
00:07:16.000 You know, another New York case with Alvin Bragg.
00:07:20.000 You know, it just, it never ends.
00:07:23.000 It never ends.
00:07:25.000 But, you know, we do what we do.
00:07:28.000 We keep fighting. Trying to have some fun in the process.
00:07:33.000 I saw one article.
00:07:35.000 Donald Trump Jr.
00:07:37.000 unflappable. That's pretty solid.
00:07:40.000 From BizPack Review.
00:07:42.000 I'm not sure enough about that, but I imagine most of the mainstream media coverage of me does not.
00:07:47.000 Let's just say they don't align with my values or my interest, but you know fires off jokes during civil fraud
00:07:53.000 trial You know
00:07:56.000 some of these things honestly our jokes the real problem is if
00:08:00.000 Businesses in New York or elsewhere perhaps let's call it.
00:08:05.000 You know in in the blue states or blue areas liberal areas if a person is going to conduct business and in our case
00:08:13.000 like change the skyline of New York and And you can't rely on accountants.
00:08:19.000 I mean, a big four CPA firm whose primary principal who worked on our account probably spent more time in our offices than I did.
00:08:32.000 In a lot of our international deals, I spent a lot of time on the road.
00:08:35.000 If I can't rely on that person who's doing the tax returns for every license deal, for every management contract, They have more intimate knowledge of the finances than I could times a thousand, and I'm not able to rely on them.
00:08:49.000 But I'm still paying them millions of dollars, folks.
00:08:51.000 It's a serious problem.
00:08:53.000 I don't know how anyone could actually do business in New York if that was the case, if you're not able to rely on them.
00:09:00.000 Or if someone without those degrees and, you know, who isn't a CPA myself, is supposed to somehow overrule a CPA on matters of accounting, I think it creates a serious problem for business.
00:09:15.000 And if that's the case, and an overzealous attorney general would just decide which way to prosecute, maybe, hey, I don't know, you didn't donate to my campaign, I think we're going to investigate you.
00:09:28.000 I mean, this creates a serious problem for anyone conducting business in New York.
00:09:35.000 Now, it's hard to believe That this isn't, you know, common...
00:09:41.000 Knowledge that it's not talked about.
00:09:43.000 There was actually a good article in the Wall Street Journal today about the implications of this for future business from a Columbia professor.
00:09:50.000 So, you know, I imagine this person probably can't stand Trump, but he understands or is not short-study enough to not understand that, hey, just because we want to get Trump doesn't mean this doesn't open up Pandora's box for anyone actually trying to conduct business.
00:10:09.000 You know, that's the quick update, you know?
00:10:11.000 Did two days, I guess, of testimony, or half day yesterday, half day today.
00:10:17.000 Had some fun in the process.
00:10:19.000 I think even the judge found me.
00:10:21.000 Perhaps a little bit amusing on this thing.
00:10:26.000 And it will continue.
00:10:27.000 And then they'll bring in my father next week.
00:10:29.000 I'll probably have more commentary about that.
00:10:31.000 I always got to be careful about what I say about my things because someone will say, you know, they'll say it anyway, right?
00:10:37.000 I mean, I'm reading some of the, you know, the leftist rag paper.
00:10:40.000 He perjured him! I'm like...
00:10:42.000 Well, here we go again, right?
00:10:44.000 I'm seeing all the genius political commentators, some of them actually misspelling perjury, in their tweets because everyone is now an expert on civil fraud trials in New York State, just like everyone was an expert on constitutional law during impeachment one, and everyone was a virologist during COVID, and everyone, you know, it...
00:11:05.000 Everyone's an expert in Ukraine right now and the Middle East and yada, yada, yada.
00:11:10.000 So I just wanted to give you guys all a little bit of that update before we get to my friend Dana White and just have a fun conversation.
00:11:19.000 So, you know, long days.
00:11:22.000 It is what it is.
00:11:24.000 I was actually surprised.
00:11:26.000 CNN, while they're reporting is 99% BS, at least they put up a good picture of me.
00:11:32.000 That's a win. That's a win.
00:11:35.000 So I think I put that on my Instagram account the other day.
00:11:37.000 So, you know, if I think of more to actually talk about this, but it was a lot of mundane, did you sign a document?
00:11:42.000 Yes, I signed a document that was given to me, signed off by, you know, accounting, inside, outside, general counsel, legal, yada, yada, yada.
00:11:51.000 I believe it to be materially accurate like a hundred times over.
00:11:55.000 I mean, that's basically the extent of what it was.
00:11:56.000 And so, of course I did.
00:11:58.000 And of course I rely on those people to do that.
00:12:00.000 And if we're not able to rely on people that are experts, You're gonna have a serious problem conducting business anywhere, and especially if there's sort of selective persecution of the people you just don't like, especially when you run campaigns about going after them prior to actually seeing any of the information.
00:12:16.000 Don't forget, in this one, I was found guilty before I ever testified, just so we're clear.
00:12:21.000 It's kind of a big deal. You don't even get to...
00:12:25.000 To speak your mind anymore.
00:12:27.000 So, you know, that's what happens when you have overzealous, you know, prosecutors.
00:12:31.000 We've seen a lot of that these days.
00:12:33.000 This is not the first time, it's probably, you know, not the first decade in America this has happened, but it's the first time it's actually being fully exposed.
00:12:42.000 Hopefully people understand how dangerous this is, how bad the slippery slope is, and they get it.
00:12:49.000 And so, again, as I see what happens with my brother's testimony and my father's testimony and my sister's testimony, you know, we'll talk more about it on the show probably next week, but literally just wanted to give you guys...
00:13:00.000 A quick update. But yeah, I was shocked that some of the press even had a courtroom of people who probably don't like me too much laughing a few times.
00:13:08.000 So maybe they'll laugh when they realize what a joke this case is from the Attorney General.
00:13:15.000 But let's see what happens.
00:13:16.000 You guys are the best. Stay tuned for the interview with Dana.
00:13:20.000 I think you'll like it. Just a great guy.
00:13:22.000 Built a great company. One of the few guys that's out there who will actually speak his mind, whether we like it or not.
00:13:28.000 I think that's so important.
00:13:29.000 Wish I'd see that more in sports.
00:13:31.000 So I think you guys are really going to enjoy this interview.
00:13:33.000 We'll have a lot of fun in the process.
00:13:36.000 Locals will be tuning in later on to do that as soon as it's over.
00:13:40.000 So I'll see you guys shortly.
00:13:42.000 And be good.
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00:18:03.000 All right, guys. Joining me now, my good friend, friend of our family, friend of the MAGA movement, UFC CEO Dana White.
00:18:13.000 So, Dana, thanks for joining us, first and foremost.
00:18:16.000 You've done incredible things with the UFC. You bought it, really, when it was...
00:18:22.000 Consider dead. How did that deal come about?
00:18:25.000 What was the growth strategy?
00:18:27.000 How did you take something that basically no one else wanted to touch and turn it into a multi-billion dollar organization?
00:18:34.000 What I think is probably the coolest and most dynamic professional sports league out there.
00:18:40.000 Well, thank you.
00:18:42.000 Thanks for having me. I was always involved in the boxing game since I was like 19 years old.
00:18:50.000 And Me and the Fertitta brothers both loved the sport of boxing.
00:18:56.000 Lorenzo Frank and I started training in jujitsu.
00:19:01.000 Fell in love with the sport.
00:19:02.000 We started to meet some of the athletes.
00:19:04.000 We were blown away by, you know, there was this big misconception about what a UFC fighter was back in the late 90s.
00:19:11.000 And as we started to meet some of these guys, you know, most of them were college educated.
00:19:15.000 They all had great backstories on where they're from.
00:19:18.000 And it just sort of happened.
00:19:21.000 I started to manage some of these fighters and I got into a...
00:19:26.000 You know, a contract negotiation with Bob Meyer, which is the old owner from New York.
00:19:30.000 And he flipped out of me one day and said, you know what?
00:19:33.000 There is no more money.
00:19:34.000 I don't even know if I can put on another event.
00:19:36.000 I hung up the phone. I called Lorenzo Fertitta and I said, I think the UFC is in trouble.
00:19:41.000 I think we could buy him and I think we should.
00:19:45.000 Literally two months later, we bought it for two million bucks.
00:19:48.000 I mean, that's a pretty solid ROI. I mean, not without its blood, sweat, and tears, obviously.
00:19:53.000 Now, I'm going to push back on some of the early fighters, because I think I remember being at, I think it was UFC 2.
00:20:00.000 The first one you did in Atlantic City, whatever that was.
00:20:03.000 I remember I was sitting there with my brother, and Tank Abbott used his dentures to hold the seat next to us for his girlfriend.
00:20:11.000 Yeah. I was like, what is going on here?
00:20:16.000 It was interesting. When we got involved, we're talking about guys like Chuck Liddell, Matt Hughes, Rich Franklin.
00:20:24.000 You know, these were the guys that were in it when we bought the company.
00:20:28.000 You're talking late 2000, early 2001 is when we bought it.
00:20:32.000 But yeah, no, Tank was a different human being, that's for sure.
00:20:38.000 Some of those guys were pretty special, without question.
00:20:43.000 Growing up in Vegas, you know, Vegas today, people understand what it is, but back then it was very different.
00:20:50.000 What was your career like, and what were your aspirations in your younger moments that I mean, you know, there hasn't been, you know, although it seems like maybe they're trying to do it with pickleball these days, but there hasn't been a sports league that has grown so rapidly as what you were able to do.
00:21:09.000 How did that come about? Yeah, well, I was very lucky because I bounced back and forth.
00:21:15.000 My family was originally from Boston, so we bounced back and forth between Vegas and Boston.
00:21:23.000 So I really got to experience the best of both worlds, East Coast and West Coast.
00:21:29.000 But when we bought the company here, I mean, Vegas, even though it wasn't a sports town because of gaming, you know, UNLV basketball was huge here.
00:21:38.000 But at the end of the day, the real hometown sport here was fighting.
00:21:45.000 I mean, it was the fight capital of the world.
00:21:47.000 All the big boxing matches were here.
00:21:49.000 And it almost made sense for us to be based in Vegas, even though we were from Vegas.
00:21:56.000 It made sense.
00:21:57.000 Yeah. So, how did you first meet my father?
00:22:01.000 Were there parallels between what my father talks about in business and the art of the deal, so to speak, and your experience in business and growing the UFC? Well, what's kind of cool about your dad is that he saw the potential in this early and You know, he reached out. First of all, we bought the company.
00:22:21.000 Venues didn't even want us.
00:22:22.000 You know, your father reached out.
00:22:25.000 He cut a good deal with us for us to go to the Trump Taj Mahal.
00:22:29.000 And when we brought the first fight there, he showed up at the first prelim and he was there until the main event.
00:22:36.000 And he did it for both events that we did with him.
00:22:39.000 And after that, as the UFC started to grow, Your dad would literally reach out to me and say, wow, that's incredible.
00:22:47.000 Look at what you guys have done.
00:22:48.000 And he would always send all these...
00:22:50.000 I met your dad this Saturday for breakfast.
00:22:54.000 And I try to explain this to people, the type of friend that he has been to me.
00:22:59.000 And we met for breakfast on his plane here in Vegas when he landed.
00:23:04.000 The next day he calls me, you know, all the stuff this guy's got going on right now.
00:23:09.000 They want to put him in jail for a thousand years.
00:23:12.000 So he's got some stuff on his plate, you know, minor details while running for president.
00:23:15.000 I mean, he's the most resilient human being that I've ever met in my life.
00:23:19.000 And, you know, the stuff that kind of just rolls off him.
00:23:23.000 But this is the kind of friend he is.
00:23:24.000 I mean, I met him, you know, we hung out, we talked.
00:23:29.000 And he calls me the next day and says, I just called to tell you, I can't stop thinking about it.
00:23:33.000 You look great. You've lost weight.
00:23:35.000 I don't know what you're doing, but you look good.
00:23:37.000 He left me a voicemail and he's like, you know, you look great.
00:23:40.000 Whatever you're doing, keep doing it.
00:23:42.000 You look amazing. It was great to see you yesterday, whatever.
00:23:44.000 And this is the kind of friend that this guy is to me.
00:23:49.000 It's just, it's unexplainable.
00:23:50.000 I love your father and he and I will be friends till the day we both pass.
00:23:55.000 How did that relationship grow?
00:23:57.000 Because, you know, I could also see sort of the conflicting, you know, personalities.
00:24:01.000 I mean, you're actually far more similar than you are different, and sometimes that's both good and bad, right?
00:24:08.000 That's very true. But what happened was, is I just respect him so much, you know.
00:24:14.000 Not only for what he's accomplished in his life and what he's done, but, you know, the type of friend that he's been to me.
00:24:20.000 Like I said, everything that ever happened to me, he would reach out.
00:24:24.000 And for instance, we got the Fox deal.
00:24:27.000 We did the Fox deal. It was a big story in the New York Times.
00:24:31.000 And he sent me the New York Times and he wrote on it.
00:24:34.000 I always knew you were going to make it, Dana.
00:24:37.000 Congratulations, Donald Trump.
00:24:39.000 You know, these kind of things that he would always do.
00:24:43.000 Let's be honest. My New Year's Eve incident last year, your father was one of the first people to pick up the phone and call me, and your father probably called me four times in two weeks to make sure that me and my wife and my family were okay.
00:24:59.000 They're small things, but those are the big things.
00:25:02.000 Those are the things that matter.
00:25:04.000 And when your dad decided that he was going to run for president, he called me, and this is exactly what he said.
00:25:11.000 He said, If you don't want to do this, I completely understand and there's no hard feelings.
00:25:18.000 But if you would speak at the Republican National Convention, I would be honored if you would come speak with me.
00:25:25.000 And everybody!
00:25:27.000 Told me not to do it.
00:25:29.000 Everybody told me not to do it.
00:25:31.000 And I was like, you know what?
00:25:32.000 This guy's been a great friend to me throughout the years.
00:25:36.000 There's no way I'm not going to do it.
00:25:38.000 What was that like?
00:25:40.000 I mean, in 16 and 20, right?
00:25:42.000 I mean, probably two different times.
00:25:44.000 What was the backlash to that like?
00:25:46.000 Because you did it, and that takes balls, and I think you respect that.
00:25:50.000 The other side, you know, you can...
00:25:52.000 It's a lot easier, right?
00:25:54.000 It's not quite the same.
00:25:55.000 But if you come out at the Republican National Convention and speak, that's a ballsy move.
00:26:02.000 Well, like I said, I've been friends with you, Dan, for a long time.
00:26:10.000 I'm just a loyal guy like that, man.
00:26:12.000 I like your dad.
00:26:13.000 I respect him. Why would I not speak for him?
00:26:17.000 And I think that for me to be able to stand up there and talk about your dad had nothing to do with politics.
00:26:26.000 I'm the guy that can talk about your dad's character.
00:26:30.000 And I'll give you another example.
00:26:32.000 Me and my wife went to the White House And we had dinner with him in his residence.
00:26:37.000 And, you know, he made my wife feel so comfortable.
00:26:41.000 We sat and talked to him for a couple hours and we talked about Everything, from politics to movies to whatever it may be.
00:26:49.000 But after I spoke at the convention, I mean, that's when our relationship really, you know, we became super close after that.
00:26:56.000 And, you know, I love your dad, and I'd do anything for him.
00:27:00.000 He's awesome. He's always been an incredible friend to me.
00:27:03.000 And, yeah, I can't say enough good things about him.
00:27:06.000 I try to tell everybody I meet, the guy you see on TV is not the guy that you talk to behind the scenes.
00:27:12.000 Well, yeah, I know. There's a lot of truth to that.
00:27:14.000 I sometimes say sort of, you know, perhaps, you know, if there's a political weakness, it's actually he doesn't show the true empathetic side that he has. 0.98
00:27:23.000 You know, I think his logic is, hey, how do you deal with Xi Jinping and nuclear war and all of this stuff if they see that you're actually sensitive, if you actually give a shit about, you know. 0.88
00:27:33.000 Like you said, the little things that are actually the big things to a lot of people. 0.96
00:27:36.000 I can't tell you how many stories there.
00:27:38.000 I'm like, you should talk about it, not because it's a political win, but because it's actually who you are, but people don't see that.
00:27:47.000 100%. And the other thing about your father is your father loves this country.
00:27:53.000 Loves this country and is very passionate about the United States and all the people who live here.
00:28:01.000 Yeah. You know, what was really cool, you know, I saw it with you and my dad in New York at Madison Square Garden.
00:28:09.000 You know, the welcome he received there.
00:28:11.000 And I think you said to me something at the time, it was like, wow, I've actually, you know, you've been doing this a long time.
00:28:16.000 You'd never seen anything like that.
00:28:18.000 And that was, you know, in New York City.
00:28:20.000 A couple of months ago you had sort of UFC Miami.
00:28:24.000 And there was, may have even been, you know, more incredible.
00:28:29.000 What kind of reception do you think someone like a Joe Biden would get coming into that arena?
00:28:36.000 Yeah, not the same.
00:28:38.000 I guarantee you that. Our fan base and our fighters and our sport, everybody is very aligned.
00:28:46.000 A lot of like-minded people.
00:28:49.000 You just see not only when your dad walks into the arena, but when the fighters step into the octagon and the respect that they pay to your father.
00:29:01.000 The sport is very aligned.
00:29:05.000 Yeah, that was sort of cool watching that.
00:29:07.000 You know, guys, you know, just win a knockout.
00:29:09.000 They jump over the fence to be like, you know, it's actually very cool.
00:29:14.000 And it's interesting because, you know, like a lot of things, you know, there's some narrative with the fighters and they, you know, create a story about themselves.
00:29:21.000 You know, Colby's done that really well, sort of embracing the MAGA thing.
00:29:24.000 And then, you know, there's other guys that take the opposite approach.
00:29:27.000 But it's interesting, you know, in...
00:29:29.000 In MMA, how many of those guys who you think may be on the other side?
00:29:33.000 They DM me all the time and go back and forth and have conversations.
00:29:36.000 They're sort of the public persona.
00:29:38.000 But there does seem to be a really inordinate amount of sort of conservatism in those fighters.
00:29:44.000 Is that because they're in the ring on their own?
00:29:47.000 It's up to them to fight in the octagon and win.
00:29:52.000 It just feels like it leads itself much more so than other sports leagues to being sort of, let's call it conservative.
00:30:00.000 Yeah, I think where our fighters sit is exactly where I sit, on the side of common sense.
00:30:08.000 I think, obviously, they lean conservative, but it's a lot of common sense.
00:30:15.000 We're very pro-military.
00:30:17.000 We're very pro-law enforcement.
00:30:19.000 We love our country.
00:30:21.000 The list just goes on and on.
00:30:23.000 That's how we are all aligned.
00:30:26.000 Not just... You know, the fighters, but the fans and my employees.
00:30:33.000 So you mentioned sort of loyalty here.
00:30:36.000 How much do you value that loyalty and what role should loyalty play in business or these days even politics?
00:30:43.000 Because it seems like, especially in politics, you know, the notion of loyalty is just out the window, but it seems to be a core tenet of both you and my father, frankly.
00:30:52.000 Yeah, it's a tough thing when you talk about loyalty.
00:30:55.000 Loyalty has to be a two-way street.
00:30:59.000 It's one of the things that I've absolutely prided myself on in my life.
00:31:03.000 When we went through COVID, My big thing was I've had people who have worked here for me for 20 years.
00:31:10.000 We're going through the scariest time in our lifetime.
00:31:14.000 You know, nobody really knew, you know, were they going to die?
00:31:19.000 Were they going to live? And I just feel like at the time that that stuff was going on, you know, the business 101 move is to whack 40% of your staff.
00:31:30.000 You know, you lay them off and you do that.
00:31:33.000 It's just not who I am.
00:31:34.000 It's just not the way I'm built.
00:31:36.000 There's no way I was going to lay off my employees during the scariest time of our life.
00:31:41.000 So the UFC is this big, massive ship, and we were either all going down together or not at all.
00:31:48.000 So, you know, I'm very loyal when it comes to, you know, family and friends and employees and my fighters and, you know, everybody that I'm involved with, your father and many other friends of mine.
00:32:02.000 Yeah, no, that was a tough time.
00:32:04.000 I mean, we were in hotels, right?
00:32:05.000 I mean, it's like, could it get worse?
00:32:08.000 And there's travel bans and this, and you couldn't go anywhere.
00:32:10.000 My brother and I just tried to ease some of that pain.
00:32:14.000 I know during that time, we took no salary for basically that whole year.
00:32:18.000 Actually, we took no salary, not basically, but for the whole year, just to be able to make sure that we could maintain as much of those teams.
00:32:25.000 It's kind of hard when you have essentially no cash flow coming in, because you're right.
00:32:29.000 The move is to cut 40% of the stuff, and we'll rehire A year later, but some of these people, they've been around for so long.
00:32:34.000 So you're right. It does have to be a two-way street.
00:32:36.000 And so, you know, that kind of leading by example is a big deal.
00:32:40.000 And guess what? 0.99
00:32:41.000 You find out who's who and what's what when the shit hits the fan. 0.99
00:32:44.000 Everybody can talk about loyalty and everybody can say, oh, I'm this, I'm that. 0.99
00:32:49.000 When things really go down.
00:32:53.000 In your life, whether it's a pandemic, a New Year's Eve incident, you name it, you find out who's who and what's what.
00:33:01.000 It's actually not a bad thing to have some of these things happen in your life so you can learn these things.
00:33:07.000 Oh, dude, 100%.
00:33:09.000 For me, that was politics.
00:33:10.000 You know, I'd see it. Like, guys I'd known for 20 years, they're literally texting me and they're saying, you know, Hey, you're doing a great job.
00:33:17.000 I love what you're saying about this.
00:33:18.000 I love that. And then I see them on Facebook.
00:33:20.000 And it's like they're trying to pick up chicks.
00:33:21.000 They're saying exactly the opposite because, you know, the woke soundbite and, you know, it's misogynist. 0.99
00:33:27.000 They're so terrible. I'm like, dude, you can't have it both ways.
00:33:31.000 Like, you can't tell me that this, like, you know.
00:33:33.000 So, and I don't care if you feel that way.
00:33:35.000 I have friends that were liberal friends, and they just disagree with me, but they'd say it to my face, and they'd say it, whatever.
00:33:40.000 And I'm fine. I'm more close with that person than I am the guy that's bullshitting me.
00:33:44.000 So for me, that whole, you know, 2015, 2016 political thing was actually really cathartic, because it's like, it cut my contact list in half.
00:33:52.000 Like, there's a group of people, I never have to take their phone call again.
00:33:55.000 It's fine. I don't have to even have the conversation with them.
00:33:57.000 I just know they won't be there when it matters, and so why even bother? 0.98
00:34:01.000 That's just... Another one of those fucking rubber chicken lunches that you have once a year that I have better things to do with my time. 0.98
00:34:09.000 100%. I couldn't agree with more. 0.99
00:34:11.000 I don't judge people by their politics.
00:34:13.000 This is America. You vote for whoever you want to vote for.
00:34:15.000 You do whatever you want to do.
00:34:17.000 And there's so many of those people that are like that out there.
00:34:21.000 You know what I mean? Oh, you support Trump?
00:34:24.000 Kids that I went to high school with. 1.00
00:34:26.000 My sister was fighting with some of these idiots on Facebook. 1.00
00:34:31.000 I can't believe we were friends with him when we grew up and all this other crazy shit. 1.00
00:34:36.000 It's just... You're an absolute fucking lunatic if that's how you're judging people. 1.00
00:34:41.000 Well, unfortunately, there's a lot of lunatics these days, but hopefully they'll wake up. 1.00
00:34:45.000 As we're on the brink of World War III and all the other disasters that are looming, maybe they wake up and realize, you know what, it wasn't so bad.
00:34:52.000 I'll take mean tweets and world peace any day.
00:34:56.000 Well, one of the things that your father and Jared Kushner don't get enough credit for is what they did in the Middle East during their term.
00:35:03.000 You want to talk about...
00:35:04.000 They should have won a Nobel Peace Prize for what they did and the work that they got done in the Middle East back then.
00:35:10.000 But let me tell you what, you know you're in a bad place when other countries are hoping that your father gets re-elected again so that we can...
00:35:23.000 You know, restore peace and some type of order here.
00:35:27.000 I can't believe we still have a year to go.
00:35:29.000 Scary, actually. It is amazing how fast things can change.
00:35:33.000 So, there's another guy who my father's been quite close to for a long time.
00:35:39.000 And now you're in business with Vince McMahon.
00:35:43.000 Tell us a little bit about your relationship with Vince, the WWE. I've heard that it always wasn't a, let's call it a positive relationship, though now you're seemingly working together great.
00:35:59.000 Well, it's been an interesting relationship with Vince McMahon.
00:36:02.000 I never saw Vince as competition.
00:36:06.000 But I think in Vince's, you know, in his heyday, he saw everybody as competition. 0.92
00:36:12.000 And, you know, he was one of those guys who would just fucking stick it to me just to do it, you know, for whatever reason.
00:36:18.000 You know, we were about to do a deal with NBC, and it ends up, we get to the one-yard line, and Vince has the final say. 0.57
00:36:26.000 say who can go on USA Network and who can't if you're a combat sport.
00:36:31.000 And Lorenzo and I flew out to Connecticut, sat down with him and we're like, hey, you
00:36:35.000 know, we're doing a deal with, you know, we do all the small talk first and he's like,
00:36:40.000 well, the reason we're here, we're doing a deal with NBC, you know, and Vince just sits
00:36:44.000 back like Vince sits and you know how he is.
00:36:47.000 And we said, We're about to do this deal, and we're going to have fights on NBC and everything else, but you need to sign off on it.
00:36:56.000 He's like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.
00:36:58.000 And we're like, why?
00:37:02.000 I'm just not interested in it.
00:37:03.000 I don't like the idea of you guys being on USA Network.
00:37:07.000 So the whole deal blows up.
00:37:09.000 At the end of the day, it all worked out better because we ended up on Fox, and we had a great relationship with Fox and Eric Shanks, and it was all great.
00:37:19.000 But yeah, I mean, that's just one of 10 times I could tell you where Vince did it.
00:37:23.000 Now, Vince and I, you know, we're in business together, I guess, but Vince couldn't be a better partner now.
00:37:30.000 Now Vince is, you know, he's been an incredible partner, you know, literally keeps me in the loop on everything that's going on and, you know, making sure that I'm cool with decisions that might be made that might affect the UFC. Now it's like a complete flop.
00:37:47.000 And he couldn't be a better partner.
00:37:49.000 That's interesting. I mean, yeah, I was going to ask, you know, what's it like working with him now that you're not competing with him, right?
00:37:56.000 You know, because, listen, I understand the business.
00:37:57.000 And, hey, the guy's a shrewd guy, a smart guy.
00:38:00.000 By the way, I'm just imagining that meeting because he is probably in character even though he wasn't in character, right?
00:38:08.000 Like, just classic Vince McMahon.
00:38:10.000 Yeah. The thing for me is, you know, despite the past history with he and I, I respect killers, man.
00:38:17.000 I love killers. I love guys that are in the business.
00:38:22.000 You know, from Michael Jordan to Vince McMahon to Carl Icahn.
00:38:28.000 I mean, you name it. 0.95
00:38:29.000 If you're a killer, I'm a fan.
00:38:32.000 So, it's hard to...
00:38:35.000 Not respect Vince and what he's accomplished and what he's built.
00:38:39.000 And the fact that this guy at his age is still just an absolute beast.
00:38:45.000 No, that's interesting. Are there UFC fighters that you could see eventually sort of going into the WWE? I mean, it's obviously two very different games, but do you see that as an exit strategy perhaps for some fighters now rather than doing the boxing thing or whatever it may be?
00:39:03.000 Yeah, I think that you have to be a huge fan of WWE, like Ronda Rousey.
00:39:09.000 Like, Ronda fought over here in the UFC, but she was a total WWE geek. 1.00
00:39:13.000 She loved it. So, when she retired, it was always her dream to win this title and then go over and win a WWE title. 0.90
00:39:20.000 So, if you're that passionate about it and you're into it, you grew up loving it, yeah, I could see it happening all day long.
00:39:27.000 Are there similarities between yourself, my father, and Vince that, you know, sort of are the ones that stand out other than perhaps that whole, you know, notion of being a killer?
00:39:38.000 Probably. Probably.
00:39:40.000 You know, I think that's why, you know, me and your dad talk about that kind of stuff all the time, you know, when we get together.
00:39:50.000 You know, he'll call me up on a, you know, on a Wednesday and start going, Oh man, that
00:39:56.000 fight on Saturday was unbelievable.
00:39:58.000 Did you think this was going to go this way or that way?
00:40:00.000 And you, you and I, you and I were getting off the plane one time.
00:40:04.000 I don't remember where the hell we were.
00:40:05.000 It might've been in Arizona or wherever.
00:40:09.000 And you looked at me and you said, you know what?
00:40:11.000 You're the only guy in the world that my dad can bro out with.
00:40:15.000 It's so true because people don't understand his actual fight knowledge.
00:40:19.000 Going back to boxing, Atlantic City was such a big part of that.
00:40:25.000 He really gets it.
00:40:27.000 He's a true fan, but he knows the history and he knows the backroom dealings and all of that stuff.
00:40:34.000 It didn't just end with boxing.
00:40:36.000 He's a super knowledgeable MMA guy as well.
00:40:39.000 It's sort of surprising. He is.
00:40:41.000 No, he is. He's awesome, man.
00:40:43.000 I love him. But I didn't answer your question.
00:40:46.000 I don't know the answer to the question, the similarities between me, Vince, and your dad.
00:40:51.000 I'm sure there are many, but I don't know how to answer that question.
00:40:55.000 So, Dana, what do you make of sort of the politicization of sports these days?
00:41:00.000 We've seen it all over the place.
00:41:02.000 I mean, major sports league, right?
00:41:04.000 The NFL, the NBA with Roger Goodell and Adam Silver just literally just pushing, like, you know, a DEI, you know, Honestly, I'd say agenda, but it's really more propaganda.
00:41:16.000 Should leagues lean into politics or stay away?
00:41:20.000 The UFC is really different than all the other leagues in that it allows their athletes to say what they want.
00:41:28.000 Not like, well, you can say the narrative, but you can't say anything contrary to the narrative.
00:41:32.000 Look at what they did to Tim Tebow versus Colin Kaepernick or something like that.
00:41:37.000 Has that ever caused you or the league problems?
00:41:40.000 Has anyone ever come to you and said, hey, you need to shut your fighters up or perhaps even you need to shut up yourself? 0.99
00:41:48.000 Yeah, listen, the media has had problems with it in the past, but I could give a shit. 0.99
00:41:53.000 I stay as far away from politics. 0.98
00:41:56.000 I try not to politicize the UFC. Me speaking with you here, me speaking with your father at the Republican convention and things like that, this is my personal.
00:42:08.000 Me personally. I'll post stuff sometimes on my personal social media.
00:42:13.000 You never see any of this stuff in the UFC. We don't play any of these games.
00:42:16.000 We don't do any of this woke bullshit. 0.99
00:42:21.000 And I let the fighters be whoever they are. 0.98
00:42:24.000 I don't tell them what to say.
00:42:26.000 These people are from different parts of the world.
00:42:29.000 These people have different points of views and different things going on in their lives.
00:42:33.000 That's their personal business.
00:42:35.000 Never, ever do I try to stop my guys from saying anything or doing anything.
00:42:41.000 You know... Who they are is what I'm selling, okay?
00:42:46.000 And I don't ever interfere with who they are.
00:42:50.000 But you've had advertisers, as of recently, right, come to you and just say, hey, it's not just the fighters, we can't talk about it, but that you were getting too controversial, you need to stop talking politics, you're too pro-Trump.
00:43:04.000 Is that something you can talk about here?
00:43:08.000 Listen, I don't want to throw any sponsors under the bus, but my sponsors have actually been pretty good.
00:43:13.000 My sponsors have been pretty good in dealing.
00:43:15.000 Listen, when you do a deal with me and the UFC, you know what you're getting.
00:43:20.000 You know what you're signing up for.
00:43:24.000 In my life, in this period, in my life and in my career, I am only interested in doing business with people that I am aligned with.
00:43:34.000 I don't want to...
00:43:37.000 I don't want to go through any of that bullshit at this point in my career, in my life. 0.92
00:43:43.000 Right now, one of the big hot topics is Anheuser-Busch and Bud Light. 0.64
00:43:51.000 What would you want to explain about the deal, the thought process behind it? 0.99
00:43:55.000 I don't think you're going to have Dylan Mulvaney as a round card girl anytime soon, but they're giving you shit for it. 1.00
00:44:04.000 Yeah, well, here's the thing. 0.98
00:44:06.000 You know, if you look at Anheuser-Busch, one of the greatest American companies of all time.
00:44:11.000 And, you know, it's so ingrained in our youth growing up, like me, a big boxing guy.
00:44:18.000 All the fights I ever remember was Budweiser, the king of beers.
00:44:24.000 You know, obviously multiple beer companies came to the table.
00:44:28.000 But if you really look at other beer companies, what do other beer companies really do for America?
00:44:34.000 You know what I mean? And, you know, I get it.
00:44:38.000 Everybody's mad at Bud for that whole thing.
00:44:40.000 But here's the reality.
00:44:42.000 At the end of the day, if you call yourself a patriot, right?
00:44:48.000 I'm a patriot.
00:44:49.000 And, you know, Over $700 million goes to U.S. farmers for their crops to make the beer at Anheuser-Busch.
00:44:59.000 65,000 Americans are employed by Anheuser-Busch.
00:45:03.000 They do this thing that I love called Folds of Honor.
00:45:08.000 They donated $44 million for fallen soldiers and first responders' families.
00:45:14.000 Every time a natural disaster happens, they shut down the plant and they turn it into a bottled water facility.
00:45:20.000 They've done something like 100 million bottles of water for disaster.
00:45:24.000 And if you keep going through and you look at the things that they've done, so what I do is I look at these companies now that I am aligned with.
00:45:33.000 You know, companies that I'm aligned with, I am a big military guy.
00:45:36.000 I'm very much into law enforcement and first responders.
00:45:41.000 Obviously, keeping jobs in the United States for Americans.
00:45:48.000 The list goes on and on and on.
00:45:50.000 So when I look at these other beer companies, go ahead.
00:45:53.000 Yeah, no. Listen, it's a problem with all of corporate America.
00:45:57.000 You know, I hope Anheuser-Busch, they learn from that era.
00:46:01.000 But, like, if you look at, like, you know, Molson Coors, you know, the places that they donate to, it's just, it's a never-ending list of insanity, right?
00:46:11.000 Molson Coors, they dumped millions upon millions into BLM, you know, pushing that activism, right?
00:46:19.000 You saw the, you know...
00:46:21.000 And Guinness, the parent company, I remember looking at it at the time, and I'm like, all of these guys?
00:46:26.000 I mean, it's sort of good that we're actually finally forcing corporate America to actually think about conservatives, to not just appeal to sort of the woke left wing.
00:46:36.000 And as you said, I thought it was brilliant in your interview.
00:46:38.000 I think I texted you about it the other day, which is like, of course sponsorship is about, you know...
00:46:43.000 The money. But the other points you make, I think, are discounted.
00:46:47.000 And people don't realize that it's just a disastrous problem in all of corporate America that I think we've got to learn from, that these companies have to learn from so they're not just funding one side, which has basically been what's happening all along.
00:47:01.000 You're right. And I can tell you this from experience.
00:47:05.000 You know, all you people out there, you patriots, you haven't dealt with anybody.
00:47:09.000 You haven't dealt with any of these beer companies.
00:47:12.000 You haven't dealt with any of these sponsors.
00:47:14.000 I've dealt with them all.
00:47:16.000 I am... And you are, you, the people watching, more aligned with Anheuser-Busch than anybody else.
00:47:26.000 That I guarantee you.
00:47:27.000 Well, yeah, and canceling you, I mean, the backlash, the backlash against Dana White, I'm like, wait a minute. 0.62
00:47:32.000 It's sort of ridiculous in the sense that, like, you're literally the only explicitly anti-woke...
00:47:39.000 Perhaps even CEO. I'm not going to say even in a sports league. 0.82
00:47:43.000 Again, Roger Goodell with the NFL pushing insanity.
00:47:48.000 Silver over at the NBA. We should want big corporations giving money to...
00:47:54.000 The UFC, who's giving Sean Strickland... 0.98
00:47:59.000 You know, a platform to say whatever the fuck he is thinking.
00:48:03.000 Let's just say, you know, he's probably not giving Dylan Mulvaney a positive platform. 0.98
00:48:09.000 I mean, you know, that's perhaps the irony of all of this.
00:48:12.000 When I saw it, you know, kind of going down, I'm like, wait a minute.
00:48:14.000 Like, you may be the only guy in that world, certainly the only guy in sports that's actually, you know, calling this insanity out.
00:48:22.000 And so when they're forced back into sort of appealing to your fan base, you know...
00:48:28.000 That's, to me, a win.
00:48:31.000 It's not just the cancellation and the continuation of that win coming in and actually having them give you a lot of money for the platform that you are saying that definitely leans incredibly, you know, let's call it to our side.
00:48:45.000 I'm just telling you, I'm in the know.
00:48:47.000 I deal with all this stuff on a daily basis.
00:48:51.000 If you consider yourself a patriot, you consider yourself an American, you love your country, and if that's your position and that's who you are, believe me when I tell you, you are aligned with Anheuser-Busch.
00:49:05.000 That's all I can tell you.
00:49:08.000 These guys... Whatever happened in the past, and I don't even touch on that because that's none of my business.
00:49:19.000 Whatever happened, happened.
00:49:20.000 Those people are no longer there.
00:49:22.000 The company has moved forward.
00:49:24.000 And I can just tell you this.
00:49:26.000 If they are aligning themselves with me for the next six years, and I'm aligning myself with them for the next six years, It tells you where everybody's at.
00:49:37.000 I think that says a lot without question.
00:49:39.000 So, listen, moving on from, you know, the politics.
00:49:43.000 What do you think of the Nagano fight?
00:49:47.000 I didn't see it. There's a couple times I see the UFC fighters and I see, you know, fighting, you know, Jake and Logan Paul and stuff like that.
00:49:54.000 The marketing guy of me, I understand enough about fighting.
00:49:57.000 I grew up in it. I was going to the big fights from when I was three years old.
00:50:02.000 There's pictures of me. I still have a bowl cut.
00:50:04.000 So I understand boxing is a different game than mixed martial arts and MMA and then the octagon.
00:50:11.000 I feel like there's a lot of people that don't understand that. 0.90
00:50:13.000 So when I watch some of these guys, these great legendary MMA fighters go get their ass kicked in a boxing ring, I'm just like, oh, it's got to be tough. 0.65
00:50:23.000 And I understand there's some issues maybe with Nganu, but that was sort of interesting because he was maybe the first guy, maybe Conor a little bit against Mayweather, but the first guy that actually was like, holy crap, he almost took out the heavyweight champion of the world. 0.63
00:50:38.000 What did you think of it?
00:50:40.000 I didn't see the fight, but the fact that he went 10 rounds with Tyson Fury is crazy.
00:50:45.000 So if you look at, he just went 10 rounds with Tyson Fury.
00:50:48.000 Connor made it 9 or 10 with Floyd.
00:50:51.000 Anthony Pettis just beat Roy Jones Jr.
00:50:53.000 I know Roy's friggin' 60 years old or whatever, but I mean, I don't know what the hell's going on.
00:50:59.000 It's crazy. I didn't see the fight, but the fact that he went 10 rounds is unbelievable. 0.67
00:51:06.000 What do you think of, generally speaking, some of the guys, you know, again, they're cycling out of USC, and then they do the boxing.
00:51:11.000 Now, I think we all understand, hey, there's a huge payday for them.
00:51:16.000 That makes, you know, obviously a lot of sense for a fighter that's retiring that, you know, may not have, you know, a bunch of skill sets if they can put up a seven-figure thing to show up.
00:51:25.000 You know, what do you think?
00:51:27.000 Did it hurt UFC? Do you care?
00:51:29.000 Does it matter? What are your thoughts on it, generally?
00:51:33.000 No, I don't care.
00:51:34.000 Listen, these guys, at some point, everybody's going to move on.
00:51:38.000 And everybody has to do what's right for them and make money for their families.
00:51:43.000 So, you know, whatever they got to do, they got to do.
00:51:46.000 Do you think boxing is, you know, too broken to, you know, regain what it once was, you know, a couple decades ago?
00:51:54.000 I mean, I remember it was the biggest thing, you know, there was nothing like it.
00:51:58.000 You know, a heavyweight championship of the world fight was like the Super Bowl.
00:52:04.000 These days, and listen, I think, you know, Dante Wilder and Tyson Fury, these guys have actually, you know, instilled and injected quite a bit of life to it.
00:52:11.000 There's some good storylines, things you wouldn't expect.
00:52:14.000 Again, you put Tyson Fury next to Wilder.
00:52:16.000 How is it even possible that they could compete?
00:52:19.000 And yet, you know, an amazing fighter.
00:52:20.000 But do you think that boxing...
00:52:23.000 Got too broken when, you know, you'd go there and you knew if it went to a decision, whoever had the bigger manager, whoever had Don King was going to win.
00:52:31.000 It didn't matter. Like, I've been to these fights, you know, I'm sitting next to, you know, Lennox Lewis, three other professional fighters, you know, so I can score a boxing match and I'm sitting there and be like, I'm pretty much in tune with what these guys, the best in the world are.
00:52:43.000 And then, you know, and the scores are coming in and it's exactly the opposite. 0.96
00:52:48.000 And you knew it was bullshit and everyone's pissed off. 0.98
00:52:51.000 Do you think it can make a comeback? 0.97
00:52:54.000 It's interesting because, first of all, when you talk about how broken it is, the fact that this fight this weekend is more talked about than a Crawford fight is crazy.
00:53:04.000 Some of these influencer fights are bigger or talked about or more buzzed about than some of these real fights in the boxing business.
00:53:16.000 It just shows you how truly broken it really is.
00:53:19.000 But... On the flip side, you know, you've got a kid like Ryan Garcia who can actually fight, and he was built on the internet.
00:53:26.000 You know what I mean? This kid was built on the internet.
00:53:28.000 And then you have a fight like him and Davis, which, you know, not only created a ton of buzz and got a lot of pay-per-view buys, but the younger generation was actually into it.
00:53:39.000 So I think you're always going to have these one-off fights.
00:53:44.000 It's just boxing as a business...
00:53:47.000 Is absolutely and totally broken.
00:53:50.000 Is that something you think you could fix?
00:53:52.000 Would you ever get involved? Or do you just have too much on your plate with UFC? I mean, every time I get on the phone with one of these boxing guys, I go, what the fuck am I doing?
00:54:01.000 Am I out of my mind? 0.99
00:54:03.000 These guys are all horrible to deal with.
00:54:07.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:54:09.000 Now, I mean, could some of that be because, I mean, when you see the guys, the UFC guys that go to boxing and whatever it is, I mean, there's still a different sort of pay structure in boxing.
00:54:18.000 Is that aspect of it, there's just too much money that it's broken, that it sort of just lends itself to the corruption?
00:54:23.000 There's no real control, right?
00:54:25.000 Well, it's not even the corruption.
00:54:26.000 You can't build a business off it.
00:54:28.000 I mean, the key to having something is building a business.
00:54:32.000 When you talk about the NFL... The NBA, Major League Baseball.
00:54:35.000 They took football, basketball, and baseball and created a business out of it.
00:54:40.000 That's what we did with fighting.
00:54:42.000 And it just can't be done with boxing.
00:54:44.000 It's just too crazy.
00:54:45.000 So, yeah, you can get a couple of guys.
00:54:47.000 You'll get some dudes who could care less whether they make money or not. 1.00
00:54:52.000 They just want to be involved in the thing and put on these fights.
00:54:55.000 And, you know, that's been happening for a long time.
00:54:58.000 It's crazy. But these people pop up all the time because the fight business is so attractive.
00:55:04.000 It's so, you know, you got a lot of these guys that do Boring shit. 0.99
00:55:09.000 They make a lot of money, but what they do isn't sexy or whatever. 0.99
00:55:12.000 They want to get involved in the fight business.
00:55:16.000 They don't care if they make money or not. 0.54
00:55:21.000 I got into this thing to build a business.
00:55:23.000 Yeah, but you did, you co-promoted McGregor Mayweather, right?
00:55:28.000 Like, how was that?
00:55:30.000 You know, what was that experience like doing it out there?
00:55:33.000 Because you did step out of your typical role, although I guess you had Conor, so it's a little, maybe a combination.
00:55:38.000 You know, are there any other UFC fighters that you could see actually, you know, kind of making that transition and succeeding in the world of boxing?
00:55:46.000 It's a possibility because that was actually built organically by the fans and the media.
00:55:51.000 It became a fight that people wanted to see.
00:55:54.000 And everywhere I went, people would go, is that a fight going to happen?
00:55:57.000 Is that a fight going to happen? And then it just all sort of came together.
00:56:03.000 And we went on that world tour. 0.93
00:56:05.000 It was fucking awesome. I mean, that was such a cool thing to be a part of at that time. 0.87
00:56:10.000 We had a blast doing it.
00:56:11.000 And the fight did really well.
00:56:13.000 And those guys made some money.
00:56:16.000 So, you know, obviously we're on Rumble, and you brought up and created, you know, Power Slap.
00:56:23.000 How did that, and by the way, it's actually incredible, and it's totally made for the moment where everything's a, you know, a 15-second clip on, you know, the gram or whatever it is.
00:56:34.000 But, you know, how'd that idea come about, and why'd you sort of partner with, you know, Chris Pawlowski over at Rumble with it?
00:56:43.000 So, in like 17, I started to see these things popping up on my social media.
00:56:49.000 They're slapping. And I was like, oh my god, this is crazy.
00:56:52.000 So I looked into it. It's coming out of Russia and Poland and places like that.
00:56:57.000 And I took a deeper dive.
00:56:58.000 I started to look on YouTube. And you had this video that looked like it was shot on a flip phone.
00:57:03.000 It looked like it was in a barn and they were slapping over a barrel.
00:57:06.000 And this thing had 350 million views.
00:57:10.000 And I was like, this is crazy.
00:57:12.000 There's the business here.
00:57:14.000 What would happen if I did this and did it the right way?
00:57:17.000 And the answer is billions of views.
00:57:20.000 That's the answer. So if you took the NFL, Major League Baseball, the NBA, the NHL, the UFC, the WWE, NASCAR, Formula One, PGA, you combine all their numbers together.
00:57:36.000 And multiplying by four, Power Slap does higher numbers on social media.
00:57:41.000 The thing is an absolute juggernaut on social media.
00:57:44.000 And we've actually turned it into a really fun live event.
00:57:48.000 It does well, streaming, and we've actually turned this into a very real business.
00:57:54.000 What's next for that one?
00:57:57.000 So, next year, we're going to...
00:57:59.000 Oh, by the way, we just launched our mobile game.
00:58:02.000 We broke every record in the mobile game business with Power Slap.
00:58:06.000 We beat everything. So next, we're getting sanctioned in more states going into next year.
00:58:14.000 We'll have five or six more states sanctioned, and we'll start traveling this thing around and bringing it to different states, different cities.
00:58:22.000 So what's it like having arguably probably every celebrity on the planet blowing you up and asking for tickets every Saturday night?
00:58:32.000 How annoying is that yet?
00:58:34.000 The ticket business is a crazy one.
00:58:37.000 You know, but it's fun.
00:58:38.000 I mean, once you get everybody dialed in and you get to the event, And everything starts rolling.
00:58:44.000 The buzz, the energy, it's the best.
00:58:47.000 There's no doubt about it.
00:58:48.000 Tickets are the worst part.
00:58:49.000 It's like seating at a wedding every Saturday.
00:58:54.000 You know how you try to see people at the wedding and you're like, you can't have these people next to these people because they don't like each other.
00:59:00.000 And, oh, if this guy sitting in this seat, he's going to be offended. 0.99
00:59:04.000 It's just every Saturday it's a shit show. 0.99
00:59:07.000 So who are the coolest celebs that you've met in that role, and who are the biggest pains in the asses, if you can tell us the names, because I know that you've got to be dealing with some serious characters. 0.99
00:59:17.000 That's a good question. I would say...
00:59:22.000 I mean, I haven't had a bad experience with any of the celebs, because if you're a douchebag, I don't care who you think you are, I don't play that shit. 0.98
00:59:32.000 But probably one of the funniest was, remember the band LMFAO? Yeah. 0.99
00:59:39.000 Yeah, like, too sexy or whatever, my kid's like, yeah. 0.83
00:59:44.000 So to be fair to them, you know, it's probably their manager or their agent, whoever, calling here, acting like an absolute clown and basically saying, yeah, LMFAO, you know, they need to be in the front row. 0.99
00:59:59.000 And I don't mean the front row in the end, the front row in the middle and all this crazy shit. 0.95
01:00:03.000 I ended up saying, yeah, LMFAO. Get lost. 0.98
01:00:07.000 Beat it. We're not giving you tickets.
01:00:11.000 So that was probably, right here, right now, that was the one that stands out the most.
01:00:17.000 Yeah, and that's probably true.
01:00:18.000 I mean, the management is probably often worse than the actual people themselves because they think they're the same, and they're not.
01:00:25.000 They don't understand their role in this situation. 0.97
01:00:29.000 And some of these agents and managers are the most annoying douchebags on planet Earth. 0.98
01:00:37.000 Yeah. Who do you think is the best pound-for-pound fighter in the world right now? 0.85
01:00:41.000 Obviously, you had an interesting weekend.
01:00:43.000 Last weekend, a couple guys that would have certainly been in the list, but they got called up, let's call it, 11 days before a fight to fight for the championship in their weight classes.
01:00:55.000 I don't know. Maybe...
01:00:59.000 Always tough, right? They take the fight, they want to fight, but it's hard.
01:01:03.000 How do you change? What happens there in terms of the standings?
01:01:07.000 What do you think happens?
01:01:09.000 That was Usman, sorry, who came up. 1.00
01:01:12.000 What do you think changes in terms of the pound-for-pound guys right now?
01:01:16.000 The best fighter in the world and the best fighter ever is Jon Jones.
01:01:21.000 Jon Jones is the best fighter ever.
01:01:23.000 And, you know, I know this will make a lot of people crazy, but when you think about who really is the best fighter in the world, period.
01:01:32.000 Not boxing, not whatever.
01:01:33.000 Who is the best?
01:01:35.000 You put two guys in a room, you lock the doors, and who walks out?
01:01:40.000 It's Jon Jones every time.
01:01:42.000 I think Jon Jones is probably the greatest combat sports athlete of all time.
01:01:47.000 Yeah, I guess that's interesting, right?
01:01:49.000 When they talk about, you know, people always make the boxing comparison.
01:01:51.000 But the reality is, yeah, in a street fight, in a bar fight, no one in their right minds ever choosing, you know, the boxer, even if they're the heavyweight championship, you know, heavyweight champion of the world relative to, you know, a guy that fights in a cage in all sorts of positions.
01:02:08.000 I agree. How was the evolution of that, right?
01:02:12.000 I remember early UFC, you'd see someone would get hurt and you'd be able to go to the local collegiate wrestling program, pull a guy, say congratulations, try punching him in the face and see what happens.
01:02:23.000 And you actually found some stars.
01:02:25.000 You had some success.
01:02:27.000 How'd that evolution change now to where everyone's so good at everything, you don't have that?
01:02:38.000 Is there a style that's more important to be focused on for these guys as everyone's matured in their fighting style?
01:02:48.000 Well, listen, at the end of the day, you need a little piece of everything, but wrestling has been a very strong base for a lot of the best fighters in the world.
01:02:57.000 You know, if you have some wrestling, some good stand-up, and a great chin, you know what I mean?
01:03:04.000 You can go far. How are all these great guys coming out of Dagestan?
01:03:09.000 What's special about it?
01:03:11.000 Is it just that they're wrestling with bears from the age of three?
01:03:14.000 It's pretty amazing.
01:03:16.000 A rather small region of the world is producing a very undue amount.
01:03:24.000 They're tougher. You know, American kids are, you know, brought up and as tough as they can be and as tough as they can get, you know, there's some helicoptering or coddling or is it just different over there?
01:03:34.000 I've never been, so I'm sort of curious, how is it that they're creating, you know, these machines?
01:03:41.000 I agree with you. They're just built different over there.
01:03:43.000 They're raised differently.
01:03:46.000 They're just a tougher group of people. 0.87
01:03:48.000 That's why I keep talking about the pussification of America. 0.96
01:03:54.000 Khabib's crew could come over here and probably wipe out half the country. 0.99
01:04:00.000 But yes, they're built differently over there.
01:04:05.000 What's their training camp like?
01:04:06.000 I mean, obviously they're training in the U.S. a lot and they're coming over here and doing it.
01:04:10.000 I mean, is it a work ethic thing or is it just, you know, by nature at this point they're just tougher?
01:04:16.000 Well, it's definitely a tougher and a work ethic thing.
01:04:20.000 Plus, if you look at where they're from, tough terrain, you know, not a lot of money over there.
01:04:25.000 They live in the mountains, snow, cold, you know.
01:04:30.000 All the elements and, you know, they just grow up much, much harder and tougher than we are.
01:04:37.000 Mentally, physically, every other way.
01:04:40.000 You see that with, like, Khabib. 1.00
01:04:42.000 You know, obviously he's worth millions of dollars now, but it doesn't actually seem like it's changed the way they actually want to live, right?
01:04:48.000 They're not living in penthouses in Vegas trying to get there.
01:04:50.000 They're perfectly fine still being, you know, in Dagestan and training the next level of fighters.
01:04:55.000 It's just they're born to fight, they're bred to fight, they live to fight, and that's what they want to do.
01:05:01.000 100%. You don't see any of those guys moving to Beverly Hills or anywhere in the United States.
01:05:08.000 They are absolutely a different breed. 0.81
01:05:12.000 Who are some of the up-and-comers that you see?
01:05:16.000 It's interesting about that.
01:05:17.000 You compare that to a Conor. 0.99
01:05:20.000 For UFC as a business, you need a little bit of that flash and the shit talk. 0.99
01:05:25.000 I'm here to fight. I'm done fighting. 0.99
01:05:27.000 We go back. I don't want to do interviews.
01:05:28.000 I don't want to be on camera. It's just not their thing.
01:05:32.000 I can clearly respect it when you're growing a business.
01:05:35.000 I mean, what you guys were able to do with Conor, who was a legit great champion as well, but in the end didn't fare perhaps compared to some of those guys.
01:05:43.000 How do you balance that?
01:05:44.000 You see that in other sports.
01:05:48.000 If the LPGA is dominated by a certain, you know, that don't have the personality, it's hard to create, you know, a momentum around a sport that perhaps doesn't have a tiger.
01:05:57.000 You know, what can you do or what do you try to do to create that happy medium of, you know, of the storyline, right?
01:06:03.000 You're not the WWE, but the storyline didn't hurt, right? 0.87
01:06:07.000 Conor became a legend, not just because he was a good fighter, he could back that up, but because the shit talk was incredible and it allowed for things to go viral. 0.94
01:06:15.000 It brought attention. 0.88
01:06:16.000 It sold... Yeah, listen, if you can find a guy that's like Conor McGregor or Ronda Rousey or some of these people with unbelievable amounts of charisma, it's a home run.
01:06:31.000 But at the end of the day, all I'm looking for is who's the best.
01:06:36.000 Who is the best?
01:06:37.000 As long as you are the best, people will always be attracted to watching the best fighter in the world fight.
01:06:43.000 But if you get all those other things, it's a home run.
01:06:48.000 And it transcends the sport.
01:06:52.000 And to other, you know, parts of the world and into pop culture and all these other things.
01:06:58.000 But you can't always have one of those.
01:07:00.000 This isn't the WWE. We can't write lines for them.
01:07:04.000 They're not actors. They are who they are.
01:07:06.000 And it's my job to make you give a shit one way or the other about whoever they are. 0.98
01:07:12.000 So you guys don't work with any of them to be like, hey, if you did it a little bit differently, you could promote this better? 0.99
01:07:17.000 Or did they just sort of let some of them figure it out? 0.99
01:07:20.000 Colby's got a great line of shit, right? 0.99
01:07:22.000 He backs it up in the ring. 0.99
01:07:23.000 He's a great fighter. And he's created a brand around Trump.
01:07:28.000 I remember he did one of the press conferences.
01:07:30.000 He's reading my book at the press conference, ignoring everything else.
01:07:34.000 It's funny, but he got a great following because of it.
01:07:37.000 But yeah, you do need the happy medium. 1.00
01:07:39.000 You can't just talk shit and get your ass kicked every time, right? 1.00
01:07:43.000 100%. At the end of the day, you have to be really good. 1.00
01:07:46.000 And then whatever you are from there, I'll work with.
01:07:50.000 Any fighters that people should be looking out for that you're sort of seeing on your radar that really have that potential to be, you know, an Usman, a Khabib, or, you know, one of those kinds of guys?
01:08:00.000 Well, I mean, if you look right now at what's going on with Hamzat Shemaev, I mean, this guy's turning into a massive star.
01:08:13.000 We got a kid named Shavkat Rachmanov, who is a bad dude, you know, and right now he's ranked number five in the welterweight division.
01:08:23.000 You know, we'll see what he ends up doing.
01:08:26.000 You know, we've got some women coming up right now, a woman named Erin Blanchfield out of New Jersey, who is exciting and fun to watch. 0.98
01:08:35.000 So, yeah, there's always somebody.
01:08:37.000 You know, I do this show called The Contender Series, and we do 10 weeks of fights.
01:08:43.000 And, you know, I'm finding a lot of talent from around the world right now on that show.
01:08:48.000 Talk about the female UFC thing. 1.00
01:08:51.000 I know initially that took a little bit of a ramp up.
01:08:54.000 I think Ronda Rousey probably brought that to a whole new level. 0.74
01:08:57.000 But there are dudes that I know that are serious fight fans that are actually really paying attention to that stuff right now.
01:09:03.000 It's not a novelty anymore. 0.99
01:09:05.000 These women are bad asses. 1.00
01:09:07.000 No doubt about it. Weili Zhang is one of the baddest human beings on the planet. 1.00
01:09:12.000 Forget about women, you know, out of China. 1.00
01:09:14.000 And, you know, you got Mackenzie Dern, you got Macy Barber, and, you know, a whole group of women now that are coming up that are fun to watch and super talented and so technical.
01:09:29.000 It's amazing. It's awesome.
01:09:31.000 That's awesome. Well, before we wrap up, any of the big fight cards that you have out coming in the next couple of weeks that you want to talk about or promote that are sort of unusual?
01:09:41.000 Well, I'm going to be in New York City.
01:09:42.000 You know, I'm going to be in New York City here on November 11th.
01:09:48.000 I'll be in New York City. 0.85
01:09:49.000 And the Prohaska-Parrera fight is going to be ridiculous.
01:09:54.000 And the Aspinall-Pavlovich fight, the heavyweights, should be great, too.
01:09:59.000 So we've got a stacked good card coming into New York.
01:10:02.000 The Madison Square Garden is always fun.
01:10:04.000 And I'm looking forward to it.
01:10:06.000 Well, awesome, man. Well, Dan, I appreciate it, man.
01:10:09.000 Thanks so much for the time. Thank you for the support.
01:10:11.000 Most importantly, thank you for the friendship.
01:10:14.000 You've been awesome. And hopefully it feels like it's mutual when we talk about the loyalty that way.
01:10:20.000 But I look forward to seeing you soon.
01:10:22.000 I promise I won't bother you for tickets anytime soon.
01:10:25.000 Whenever you need tickets, brother, you got them.
01:10:27.000 And thanks for having me. My pleasure, man.
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