Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Live With FBI Director Kash Patel, Breaking News!! | Triggered Ep.297

00:00:20.000 Hey guys, welcome to a special breaking news edition of Triggered.

00:00:25.000 It's great to be with you here this afternoon.

00:00:27.000 We're going live with FBI Director Kash Patel in just seconds following the announcement of an arrest in the January 6th pipe bombing case.

00:00:36.000 We are going to bring you the latest.

00:00:38.000 You guys know we've covered this story extensively for the past several years.

00:00:42.000 We've shown you footage.

00:00:44.000 We've analyzed the story from every angle while the Biden FBI basically tried to make it all disappear, which always felt a little bit odd.

00:00:51.000 I mean, you have pipe bombs in front of the RNC and the DNC.

00:00:54.000 It feels like that's a bigger story than anything that could have possibly happened on January 6th and the sham January 6th committee that barely even acknowledged the pipe bomb, which were placed, again, at the RNC and the DNC headquarters.

00:01:09.000 That sounds like a real threat to democracy.

00:01:11.000 The arrest was made in Northern Virginia earlier this morning.

00:01:14.000 The suspect has been identified as 30-year-old Brian Cole of Woodridge, Virginia.

00:01:20.000 He's been charged under 18 USC 844, which is use of an explosive device.

00:01:26.000 And more details are developing in real time.

00:01:30.000 So we're just going to get going and get right into it.

00:01:32.000 This is a big deal.

00:01:33.000 Obviously, Cash is really busy with all of this going on right now.

00:01:37.000 We were actually scheduled to talk to him today just about the general stuff going on.

00:01:42.000 This happened.

00:01:43.000 It changed it.

00:01:44.000 I guess it's better to be lucky than good.

00:01:46.000 So joining me now, FBI Director Kash Patel.

00:01:51.000 How are you, Cash?

00:01:52.000 Hey, Don, it's great to be here.

00:01:54.000 I'm sitting here in the White House.

00:01:55.000 I just left the Justice Department to make this really momentous denouncement for accountability here and to show the world what this FBI can do.

00:02:03.000 Well, you know, I love hearing that.

00:02:05.000 You know, it's a big deal.

00:02:06.000 I've talked about this bombing for a while.

00:02:08.000 I know we were going to talk about basically everything else that was going on today.

00:02:12.000 This just worked out.

00:02:13.000 So this is the first interview, I guess, since the press conference.

00:02:16.000 But, you know, Cash, you know, let's just get right into it because I know you're obviously scrambling a little bit right now also with everything going on.

00:02:23.000 What can you tell us about the timeline of this investigation and what led to this arrest and how you conducted this in a much smarter, more serious way than the previous leadership at the FBI?

00:02:37.000 Yeah, let me try to take that in reverse.

00:02:38.000 So Don, as you know, the weaponization of law enforcement is not just based on offensive operations like Arctic Frost and Russia Gate, which we're also working on, but also on the defensive posture of silence.

00:02:53.000 And in this instance, the prior administration had the same exact information that this FBI had access to and chose not to put the resources on target to go out and find this individual, as you said, who wanted to blow up Americans at both the RNC and DHC at the United States Capitol at the heart of our democracy.

00:03:13.000 Why they didn't want to do that is a question for them, but it was an intentional failure.

00:03:17.000 When Director Bongino, Deputy Director Bongino and I got here, we said, this is a case of high priority because this individual threatened so many American lives and disrupted and caused so much chaos.

00:03:27.000 So what we did was we went back to good old-fashioned cop work.

00:03:31.000 We said, let's reevaluate every single piece of evidence.

00:03:34.000 Don't 3 million lines of evidence were reviewed by the FBI agents and the interagency during the six months, seven month process here.

00:03:42.000 We brought in experts from around the country and we also said, hey, we've got capabilities that weren't applied before for whatever reason.

00:03:49.000 And Deputy Director Bongino spearheaded this mission and said, we're going to apply them all.

00:03:53.000 We are not going to leave any single line of evidence unturned.

00:03:56.000 And what happened was, is what happens in any good casework where cops are doing what they're supposed to be doing and FBI agents are doing what they're supposed to be doing.

00:04:03.000 We found the evidence.

00:04:04.000 We executed search warrants along the way, hit legal process, developed leads, went out and had suspects that we thought were part of it and weren't part of it, as we always do in investigations, and came to this position we are here at today, where this individual who's now alleged to be responsible for the pipe bomber has been definitively shown to be the individual under the charging position of the Department of Justice.

00:04:29.000 Yeah, I mean, we've definitely seen that sort of silence about things they don't want to talk about.

00:04:33.000 I know we've spoken about this since January 6th, 2020, but I never understood how this could just disappear.

00:04:42.000 I mean, two pipe bombs targeting the headquarters of the Republican Party, targeting the headquarters of the Democrat Party.

00:04:48.000 I can understand maybe the media ignoring targets on the Republicans because, again, their silence is golden and they only report on that.

00:04:55.000 But I mean, that to me is a far greater threat than any of the nonsense, you know, a grandma taking a selfie inside of January 6th, and yet it just disappeared.

00:05:04.000 It's almost like that was the backup plan if they didn't get what they wanted out of January 6th, which to me seems like a very clear setup operation.

00:05:13.000 And look, you're absolutely right.

00:05:15.000 Thanks to President Trump's sweeping victory and mandate for accountability across all sectors of law enforcement, especially those that harm Washington, D.C. and our elected leadership and American lives visiting our nation's capital, we just went at it with the same approach that we go after every single case this FBI handles.

00:05:33.000 No resource will be spared.

00:05:35.000 No agent or analyst or staff support will be spared.

00:05:38.000 These guys worked literally around the clock for the last six, seven, eight months producing these lines of evidence, finding the leads.

00:05:45.000 And you now know based on the publication of the press conference that, yes, there were tips in there that we, clues in there that we keyed in on, like the sneakers, like the height, like the appearance.

00:05:56.000 And we refined those images and we also used our brilliant CAS system.

00:06:00.000 And what that is, is our cell phone analytic capability to go back and say who was in the area.

00:06:06.000 And also, why wasn't this discovered before?

00:06:08.000 It's not like we recreated the cell phone data from five years ago.

00:06:12.000 People just sat on it.

00:06:13.000 And that's your point.

00:06:14.000 They decided not to do anything.

00:06:16.000 We took the opposite approach.

00:06:17.000 And look where we are today.

00:06:19.000 We arrested the January 6th pipe bomber.

00:06:22.000 What else do we know about the suspect, Cash?

00:06:24.000 I mean, you know, and there were some other false reports a few weeks ago identifying someone else.

00:06:32.000 Did those reports have any impact on the timing of this arrest?

00:06:35.000 Zero.

00:06:36.000 We don't base our reporting, our investigations and our arrest based on timelines of baseless reporting.

00:06:43.000 We present the evidence with our partners at the Department of Justice for prosecution when we meet the evidentiary threshold that was necessary.

00:06:50.000 And that's what we did here.

00:06:52.000 And I got to remind the audience here, remember, this individual was 25, Don, at the time that he placed the pipe bombs.

00:06:58.000 That's a young person.

00:07:00.000 And we have to go out there and map not just his network, but we also have to go out there on days like today when we hit the house and we hit his place of work.

00:07:08.000 We have to go out there and carefully make sure that those houses and buildings are safeguarded so that our workers and our bomb techs and our evidence response team can go in there and collect the necessary evidence for the prosecution that the U.S. Attorney's Office needs.

00:07:22.000 So we're developing more and more the suspects in custody.

00:07:26.000 We've spoken to them.

00:07:27.000 Of course, I can't get into the information that's being provided as a result of the search warrant of those conversations.

00:07:33.000 We'll make those present in the judicial process, but we're confident in our ability of executing for the American people.

00:07:41.000 So, you know, obviously there's been a lot of noise surrounding the case.

00:07:44.000 You know, the Biden FBI didn't seem to even want to find the guy at all.

00:07:49.000 I mean, they certainly didn't talk about it.

00:07:50.000 Neither did the media.

00:07:51.000 Can you talk about how you approach the investigation again compared to the predecessors?

00:07:56.000 It's really simple.

00:07:58.000 We said, hey, let's let good cops be cops.

00:08:00.000 We got video.

00:08:01.000 Let's enhance it.

00:08:02.000 We have cell phone data that wasn't triaged properly.

00:08:05.000 Let's triage it.

00:08:06.000 We have the technology and the capability to do it.

00:08:08.000 And let's go back and work with the investigative team and ask them where the pitfalls were, where the black holes were, where were the road bumps in terms of legal process?

00:08:17.000 And why didn't you execute all these search warrants?

00:08:19.000 And I don't just mean search warrants of houses.

00:08:21.000 We're talking about search warrants to service providers, cell phone companies, online providers, and anything tangentially related to this investigation.

00:08:29.000 And the U.S. Attorney's Office and the Department of Justice gave us those search warrants to produce the results necessary for us to put the pieces together to say, not only was this individual there, but he was the one responsible for creating, building, and placing the pipe up.

00:08:45.000 That's equally important to an investigation of this magnitude.

00:08:48.000 And that just takes time.

00:08:49.000 But I want to remind everybody, they took four years off.

00:08:53.000 We put eight months hard work into this.

00:08:55.000 And that is a tremendously fast investigation for something of this magnitude and public importance.

00:09:01.000 But some of this work just takes a little time.

00:09:03.000 And those that want to hasten and put targets on people so they can have clickbait, that's their right to do so.

00:09:09.000 But that is not the mission of this FBI.

00:09:11.000 That's not how we operate.

00:09:13.000 Yeah.

00:09:13.000 And I imagine, I mean, even still, it's still got to be harder four years after the fact.

00:09:17.000 I mean, if you're starting, you know, at moment one, it's going to be a lot easier than four years later because just things get harder to follow.

00:09:25.000 You know, there's has been, I've spoken about them on the show a lot, sort of, you know, a lot of, I don't even want to call them conspiracy theories because some of it seemed quite valid in talking with people about it.

00:09:33.000 You know, the sort of resolution of the video, the speed of the videos, you know, outside like the RNC or the DNC being incredibly slow, you know, relative to modern day video camera footage.

00:09:45.000 It was like they said, this is like from the 1970s.

00:09:48.000 You know, can you talk about that?

00:09:49.000 And do you think some of that could have been by design from people not wanting to get to an answer here?

00:09:55.000 You know, I wasn't there in the past.

00:09:57.000 All I can say was what we did and what they chose not to do.

00:10:01.000 And what they chose not to do was execute services, search warrants, and legal process.

00:10:05.000 What they chose not to do was properly triage the cell phone data.

00:10:09.000 Again, Don, the key piece here is we didn't come up with a new piece of information that didn't exist five years ago.

00:10:15.000 We can't go back in time.

00:10:17.000 We simply allowed agents to unleash their capabilities and expertise across the entire FBI and said, we are going to get an answer.

00:10:25.000 We are going to get accountability because this individual tried to blow up lives.

00:10:29.000 It is a simple posture of the Trump administration that in order to have accountability, you have to leave everything on the field.

00:10:37.000 And that's what this FBI did.

00:10:38.000 And that's what this Washington Field Office did.

00:10:40.000 And that's what we're doing on every single case, by the way, that we have.

00:10:43.000 And that's what we're doing to de-weaponize the FBI and depoliticize the Department of Justice.

00:10:48.000 We are going on offense on every single matter.

00:10:50.000 And we're especially going on offense on the matters that the prior administration sat on defense in.

00:10:55.000 So, you know, there's been some uncertainty, you know, certainly online.

00:10:59.000 So I don't know what's real and what's not.

00:11:00.000 Sometimes it's a little hard to follow, but on when these devices were actually planted, does this arrest crystallize the timeline at all in terms of the sequence of events that's sort of been up in the air again, especially online?

00:11:14.000 It absolutely does.

00:11:15.000 And I don't want to get ahead of the Department of Justice, but you're going to see a crystal clear timeline and picture in the next 24 hours when this individual makes his presentment and first appearance in court and we proceed with the paperwork to his arraignment.

00:11:28.000 That's where key pieces of information are going to be made public for the first time because that's where key pieces of information legally must be made public for the first time.

00:11:36.000 And we're not going to disrupt that process because that would hurt the integrity of the investigation.

00:11:40.000 And most importantly, it would hurt the integrity of the prosecution that's upcoming.

00:11:43.000 Well, no, that's a big deal.

00:11:45.000 That was there that day.

00:11:46.000 I certainly don't want to, this person has to be held accountable and there has to be justice.

00:11:51.000 But I think that's the general sentiment across so many people.

00:11:55.000 Will there ever be a look back on the way perhaps your predecessors or other people in the FBI handled this to question those methods and motives?

00:12:04.000 Again, the fact that it disappeared from the news basically the second January 6th happened and was never brought back up again, even in the months following, seems odd.

00:12:14.000 And I mean, it seems like something that people would want answers to.

00:12:18.000 Will there be a review process on how this was conducted differently?

00:12:21.000 How you guys could do this four years later and in eight or nine months actually come up with a suspect versus the prior administration having four years, a more immediate timeline, being able to go right into it, having the immediacy of that, or even the fact that they just didn't care, doesn't that say so much about the weaponization of justice in America today?

00:12:43.000 Absolutely.

00:12:44.000 And I think you're going to see it on parallel tracks.

00:12:46.000 What you're going to see is as this case presents itself in court, you're going to see where we were able to collect the evidence and make the case against this suspect.

00:12:55.000 And then common sense journalism and investigators are going to be able to look at it and say, why did these people do X, Y, and Z four or five years ago?

00:13:01.000 That's going to make itself self-apparent.

00:13:03.000 But what we're doing at this FBI is also we have replaced this entire leadership cadre.

00:13:07.000 We have pushed out a thousand agents into the field.

00:13:10.000 There is a reason this FBI has 25,000 violent offenders arrested this year alone.

00:13:14.000 That's twice as many as last year.

00:13:16.000 There's a reason that this FBI is going to deliver President Trump the lowest murder rate in modern history by double digits.

00:13:22.000 There is a reason this FBI is out there crushing fentanyl, destroying narco-traffickers, and making sure the homeland is safe and preventing spies from infiltrating our homeland and our way of life.

00:13:33.000 That's what happens when you change leadership from the prior administration, FBI, who wanted to weaponize and politicize law enforcement to us, President Trump and the Attorney General, who want to just deliver law enforcement on every single front.

00:13:47.000 And that's what we're doing.

00:13:47.000 So you're going to see it in both lanes.

00:13:49.000 Yeah, for the last few years, I've been talking, like, all I want for Christmas is an FBI that does like, I don't know, FBI stuff.

00:13:55.000 Seems like you're doing that.

00:13:56.000 You mentioned sort of the general things that are improving.

00:13:59.000 Can you get into those stats specifically?

00:14:00.000 Because I started seeing some of these numbers online and it's actually incredible.

00:14:03.000 I mean, it's really important for people to understand that you guys are actually making a difference these times rather than doing some of the more woke nonsense the FBI seemed to be partaking in for the four years of the Biden administration.

00:14:16.000 Well, the pipe bomb case is emblematic of what happened during the prior four years of the Biden administration.

00:14:21.000 They let it lay because they prefer to go after senators unlawfully. 0.92

00:14:26.000 They prefer to go after President Trump unlawfully.

00:14:28.000 They put all their resources and leadership cadre into those weaponization efforts.

00:14:32.000 We immediately shut that off and jettisoned all those individuals.

00:14:35.000 And what happens is these numbers of arrests.

00:14:37.000 And the reason that there's so many violent offenders in America is because the Biden administration went on defense and sat in silence.

00:14:46.000 And the only places they were on offense was for the weaponization of law enforcement.

00:14:50.000 We have four top 10 captures on the FBI's most wanted list this year alone.

00:14:55.000 That equals the number of the entirety of the Biden administration.

00:14:58.000 That means four of the worst criminal animals on planet Earth were captured by Donald Trump's FBI in nine months.

00:15:06.000 On top of that, we have seized enough fentanyl, 100 to kill 127 million Americans.

00:15:10.000 That's up 23%.

00:15:12.000 Our work on violent crimes against children is historic. 0.94

00:15:16.000 We have found, identified, and discovered 6,000 children this year alone.

00:15:20.000 That's up 30%.

00:15:21.000 We have dismantled human trafficking organizations looking to enslave our children.

00:15:26.000 That is up 14%.

00:15:28.000 And we have also, this may be one of the most proud stats when it comes to protecting our youth, especially online, nihilistic violent extremist networks like 764 praying and mutilizing children and causing them to commit suicide online and things like animal crushing.

00:15:42.000 Our arrest in that category is up 590%.

00:15:46.000 These numbers are because the mission of this FBI is simply to get after people who are looking to destroy our way of life, harm our children, and destroy our youth.

00:15:56.000 And the fact that President Trump came in and gave me one mandate, get out there and deliver accountability for the American people and make sure our neighborhoods are safe.

00:16:03.000 These are just some of the numbers we're talking about.

00:16:05.000 The murder rate, lowest ever. in modern history and the most violent offender arrest by 110%.

00:16:11.000 I mean, people have to take a pause at those numbers.

00:16:13.000 Those statistics don't just happen if we did one case.

00:16:17.000 We are doing tens of thousands of cases across the country and around the world.

00:16:20.000 Our espionage arrests, Dom, those from Iran, Russia, China, and elsewhere looking to spy on us, we've arrested 40% more spies in the United States.

00:16:31.000 We're also taking on agro-terrorists who are importing seeds into this country in funguses and pretending to be researchers at places like the University of Michigan and looking to steal our agricultural seed so that they can supplant that and go overseas and take it away from us.

00:16:47.000 We are on a full-scale mission to protect the American public, and we're going to finish this December strong.

00:16:53.000 We've already operated Operation Summer Heat to historic results, safeguarding cities like Memphis, which was an FBI-led effort to get out there and absolutely crush violent crime.

00:17:02.000 And we're never going to stop defending the homeland.

00:17:04.000 So these statistics, Don, while we can rattle them off, that is nine months of putting foot to ass and crushing it for the American public.

00:17:12.000 By the way, it's actually a really big deal.

00:17:13.000 And I sort of do this for a living at this point.

00:17:16.000 And I didn't know half of those things.

00:17:19.000 I think there's definitely things that people want action on, especially the online cadres.

00:17:25.000 And I get that.

00:17:26.000 But I think, just honestly, in hearing that right now, because God knows I'm one of those people for a lot of these things.

00:17:32.000 But in hearing all of those things and not knowing about it, that's actually amazing.

00:17:37.000 I think we all probably have to do a better job of highlighting some of those things because that's ultra critical for Americans.

00:17:44.000 That doesn't mean we stop wanting some of those other things, but I think we can't let some of the noise of all of that essentially discredit that work.

00:17:51.000 Because like I said, I do this every day.

00:17:52.000 I follow it intimately.

00:17:54.000 And I literally only knew of about half of the things you just rattled off.

00:17:57.000 And those are actually really big statistics.

00:17:59.000 So well done.

00:18:01.000 Well, lesson learned.

00:18:01.000 I got to come back on your show and do it more often.

00:18:05.000 I think we just got to get out there on a lot of the messaging.

00:18:07.000 I mean, I listen, there's people, and hey, it's really germane to me.

00:18:11.000 Obviously, the shooting of my father, people want to know information about that.

00:18:15.000 And I think you'll do a great job with that.

00:18:19.000 You have some of the stuff around JSIC.

00:18:21.000 This is the big one, obviously.

00:18:23.000 But those other stats on a day-to-day basis are such a huge deal.

00:18:28.000 And again, I don't know that anyone actually knows about it.

00:18:30.000 So I think we collectively have to highlight those things because it's easy to sort of say, well, I want this, this, and this, but not know that that's actually going on.

00:18:38.000 Again, I do it for a living and I'm shocked that I didn't know it.

00:18:40.000 And so, you know, for those who get frustrated online, I think, you know, I may get it, but like, I think you also have to give credit where credit is due on those other things because those stats, not just the numbers, but the improvement in the percentages relative to your predecessors is a really big deal.

00:18:56.000 No, absolutely.

00:18:57.000 And that doesn't mean we're taking our eye off the ball.

00:18:59.000 Look, you're talking to the guy who was a chief investigator for RussiaGate, the ultimate weaponization of our law enforcement in the United States.

00:19:06.000 Oh, I know a little bit about it.

00:19:08.000 Yeah, and you know a little bit about it.

00:19:09.000 And I do too.

00:19:10.000 And we're talking to the guy.

00:19:11.000 Look, we're the ones that uncovered Arctic Frost.

00:19:13.000 In terms of transparency, this FBI has produced 40,000 pages of documents to Congress in nine to 10 months alone.

00:19:20.000 Let's put that in perspective.

00:19:22.000 My predecessor, Ray, produced 13,000 pages in seven years, and Comey produced 3,000 pages in three and a half years.

00:19:28.000 We're committed to transparency, but we're also committed to these investigations.

00:19:32.000 We have ongoing investigations, as you know, of RussiaGate and Arctic Frost.

00:19:35.000 And yes, we did indict folks like James Comey and Letitia James.

00:19:39.000 And I know they're going through the legal challenges, but notice one thing that's not happening in those cases.

00:19:43.000 Nobody in there is challenging the substance of the work.

00:19:46.000 They're trying to throw it out on some procedural error.

00:19:48.000 And I don't believe they're going to be successful.

00:19:50.000 We're not done with those cases.

00:19:51.000 Our partners at the Department of Justice are not standing down and bending the knee.

00:19:55.000 You're going to see, in my opinion, more investigative work continue to lead to more prosecutions because in order to end the weaponization of justice, there has to be full accountability, not just with transparency, but also with people being held to justice in a court of law.

00:20:08.000 And we're going to continue to do that.

00:20:09.000 Look, they built this disease temple over the course of decades.

00:20:14.000 And in 10 months, we've already taken a sledgehammer to it.

00:20:17.000 But that doesn't mean we're done.

00:20:18.000 And that doesn't mean we're not doing the work.

00:20:20.000 It just takes a little bit of time to unravel the deep state that they built here.

00:20:25.000 And we're doing it.

00:20:26.000 And the Jan 6 pipe bomber is a piece of it. 0.71

00:20:28.000 You're right.

00:20:29.000 But it's not all of it.

00:20:30.000 But I want the American public to know we keep speaking in court when we can.

00:20:33.000 We're going to continue to show up to court.

00:20:35.000 And we're going to continue to make people like Comey and Brennan and Clapper and Paige and Strzok and so many others answer for what I believe are their acts of criminal conduct because that's exactly what they did when they weaponized law enforcement, went overseas, borrowed information from some hack in England about Russia, infiltrated our FISA court, lied to a federal officer, and illegally surveilled your father during a presidential candidacy.

00:20:59.000 You think I'm going to let that go?

00:21:01.000 Yeah.

00:21:01.000 Well, and senators and congressmen, only Republicans in Arctic Frost.

00:21:06.000 I mean, that's a really big deal.

00:21:07.000 Again, the media is never going to talk about it, but I mean, you know, talk about a threat to democracy.

00:21:13.000 Can you talk generally about the process of conducting investigations?

00:21:16.000 Again, whether it be the pipe bomb or Arctic Frost or any of these others that are, you know, all crazy, you know, all of this does take time, especially when there's documents literally being found in burn bags in random places hidden inside the FBI headquarters.

00:21:31.000 I mean, how shocking is it to know that under Comey Ray, there seemed to be a deliberate effort to hide the truth.

00:21:38.000 I mean, that's clear as day to me.

00:21:41.000 It was an arrogance.

00:21:43.000 These people thought that we would never look or find these materials because they had it set for destruction or they put it away in some vault.

00:21:49.000 Remember, the Arctic Frost case, where they also targeted not just senators, but staffers, including myself, when I was done being a staffer and on the campaign trail for President Trump, they decided, hey, let's go target him.

00:22:00.000 Remember, they put my name in the search warrant, the bogus search warrant for Mar-a-Lago.

00:22:04.000 Nobody else's name, mine in that WhatsApp search warrant that the judge signed literally over WhatsApp to unlawfully raid your father's house in South Florida.

00:22:12.000 We are the ones uncovering those documents.

00:22:14.000 We delivered them to Congress.

00:22:16.000 We want to work with the American people.

00:22:17.000 This is a dual track that no FBI has ever taken.

00:22:20.000 Everybody just said, wait, We could do that and not turn over anything.

00:22:24.000 But we are going to turn over as much as we can without jeopardizing the investigation.

00:22:28.000 That's exactly what we did in the pipe bomber case. 0.95

00:22:30.000 We provided what we could to Congress in a timely fashion.

00:22:34.000 And now look at the moment where we have arrived today, an actual arrest, which is what every American wanted.

00:22:40.000 And that's the balance that I have to strike for this FBI.

00:22:43.000 And I get it.

00:22:43.000 We get some heat for it in the online spaces, and that's okay.

00:22:46.000 But look at the results, not just this result, but the historic results of the first year of the Trump presidency for the FBI.

00:22:52.000 They are literally the best numbers the FBI has ever put up.

00:22:55.000 And that's because we're moving agents out into the field by the thousands.

00:22:58.000 We're giving ourselves a new headquarters building.

00:23:00.000 We're saving the taxpayer $4 billion.

00:23:02.000 We're giving the men and women of the FBI a workforce that they can believe in and restoring public trust.

00:23:07.000 And remember, when I inherited this FBI, their public trust rating was less than 40%.

00:23:12.000 That's like congressional levels.

00:23:14.000 We've got a lot of work to do to restore it.

00:23:16.000 And putting out documents is one way, but putting out these arrest numbers and conviction numbers, in my opinion, is the best way.

00:23:22.000 And we're only nine to 10 months into my tenure and we're going to keep going.

00:23:25.000 Yeah, no, that's a big deal.

00:23:26.000 And I get it.

00:23:28.000 someone who rages online a lot, it's not easy to undo four years of subversion, four years of hiding the files, making things go away, disappearing that trail.

00:23:40.000 In the online world in which we all lived prior to getting back into government, it's easy to want that instant gratification.

00:23:48.000 It feels great when you get it occasionally.

00:23:50.000 But the reality is, especially to do this right, especially in a weaponized lawfare state where you can actually have everything right, but a procedural error can throw it all out.

00:24:01.000 You're not going to get everything that you want overnight.

00:24:03.000 These things take time.

00:24:04.000 And I think we all rather have the appropriate result than a hastened answer that then gets thrown out, not because of the merits, but because of procedure.

00:24:15.000 Exactly.

00:24:16.000 And that's what we're doing.

00:24:16.000 And that's what I think we showed the world today with the Jan 6 case.

00:24:19.000 And as I said, stay tuned on matters like Comey and Letitia James.

00:24:23.000 We're not done.

00:24:24.000 We're continuing to fight that with our Department of Justice partners.

00:24:28.000 And the substance of those materials have been made very public in a court of law.

00:24:31.000 Look what we disclosed in the Comey case.

00:24:33.000 So this is a perfect example.

00:24:34.000 The burn bags were found by us months ago, but we weren't allowed to disclose them to the public fully because we wanted to protect the integrity of the investigation.

00:24:42.000 We found the documents.

00:24:43.000 And because Comey and his team pled against us in a court of law, we were able to turn the documents over to the public.

00:24:48.000 The documents aren't contested.

00:24:50.000 The evidence is there for everyone to see.

00:24:52.000 That's the best way, in my opinion, to conduct accountability.

00:24:55.000 And we're not going to let them off the hook on procedural errors.

00:24:58.000 We're going to keep going.

00:24:58.000 This investigation on RussiaGate and the weaponization of government continues to be ongoing.

00:25:04.000 We have built two massive teams that have been on it for about six to eight months.

00:25:08.000 And it takes about that much time just to serve legal process.

00:25:11.000 Just think of it, search warrants take months for service providers to give us the returns, for private sector companies to give us the banking records.

00:25:18.000 That stuff takes time because that's just the way it is.

00:25:21.000 I wish I could speed it up.

00:25:23.000 And the way we are speeding it up is by putting more manpower on it.

00:25:27.000 In all of the major investigations you're working on, there's these sort of, you know, these bad actors, including many foreign accounts who are trying to push conspiracy theories.

00:25:35.000 We've seen it with the assassination of Charlie Kirk ever since sort of Twitter opened up like the place where these guys are actually posting from.

00:25:42.000 And again, some of that may be through a VPN, but I imagine a majority of it isn't.

00:25:46.000 How does that impact your work?

00:25:49.000 How much of that is a distraction just from a law enforcement perspective, but also for the public at large?

00:25:57.000 Because I think it creates perhaps unrealistic expectations in terms of timing, speed, results, et cetera.

00:26:05.000 Well, the Charlie case is obviously a tragic example of our friend being assassinated and us working with state authorities similarly like in the Jan 6 case, but there with the state prosecutors to make sure that that individual is brought to justice.

00:26:20.000 And we have to balance freedom of speech.

00:26:22.000 We are not going to trample on people's freedom of speech right in the digital media, in the TV media, or in the online spaces.

00:26:29.000 But when they create a lot of undue noise and undue conspiracies, what that does is it causes us to come off mission and respond to those conspiracy theories because they get so loud.

00:26:39.000 And what happens is we only have so many people in so many hours in the day.

00:26:43.000 And I'd rather put them all on Charlie Kirk's case and all on these cases that we're talking about rather than diffusing some of these conspiracies.

00:26:50.000 But that's the job.

00:26:51.000 And we're balancing as best as we can, but we're never going to trample on people's freedom of speech rights.

00:26:56.000 That's one of the main things that your father was elected for was his protection of First Amendment freedom of speech.

00:27:01.000 So we could take the criticism.

00:27:03.000 We'll just speak in a court of law.

00:27:05.000 Yeah, no, listen, I think that's important.

00:27:07.000 I'm sort of a free speech absolutist on that.

00:27:08.000 And frankly, I've been pretty conspiratorial over the last, let's call it decade.

00:27:14.000 And rightfully so.

00:27:14.000 That doesn't mean that everyone is accurate, but I wanted to see how much harder that makes the job in getting to a result or perhaps opening the door for someone who's actually guilty to get away because of a sentiment that was created and whatever it may be.

00:27:28.000 And I'm just sort of curious about that balance because God knows I want the person who actually killed Charlie to face justice more than anyone.

00:27:36.000 He was someone I spoke to probably more than anyone over the last decade.

00:27:38.000 And so it's just a curious question because there's so much going on.

00:27:41.000 It's just, frankly, it's hard to follow.

00:27:44.000 It is.

00:27:44.000 And it does take a lot of time and a lot of bandwidth.

00:27:47.000 And this FBI, I can only speak to them, is trying to answer every single one of those questions that we possibly can without jeopardizing ongoing investigations.

00:27:55.000 That's the balance.

00:27:56.000 That's the job that I agreed to take on for President Trump.

00:27:59.000 And I knew it wasn't going to be easy.

00:28:01.000 And same with Deputy Director Dan Bongino.

00:28:03.000 And we publicize more information than any FBI in the history has done before, not just with congressional documents, but look at what the amount of information we put out online through interviews, through televised interviews, through these types of interviews and great podcasts and shows like yours.

00:28:17.000 But we are committed to continuing to put out as much information as we can, but we will always side on the side of protecting the integrity of investigations so we can get to the position we are today with individuals like the pipe bomber.

00:28:30.000 Cash, I also wanted to ask, because sort of we touched on it earlier, you know, as it relates to public safety, which is such a big deal for so many Americans, you know, we also see the Trump administration and yourself taking bold and decisive steps to dismantle the drug cartels and the narco-terrorist criminal syndicate like the Maduro regime.

00:28:47.000 You know, can you talk about the FBI's role in all of that?

00:28:50.000 Because right now, I think the focus is obviously on the military, but I know that the FBI has a pretty big stake in all of this.

00:28:56.000 It's massive.

00:28:57.000 And the designation of these drug cartels as foreign terrorist organizations allows us to treat them like al-Qaeda and ISIS.

00:29:03.000 And that's what we're doing in places like Mexico and Colombia and elsewhere.

00:29:06.000 And we have huge teams out there conducting these seizures, these record seizures, not just of fentanyl, cocaine, meth, and other narcotics that are killing our children and our young Americans.

00:29:16.000 And that's what this FBI is all about.

00:29:18.000 Record-level results in terms of not just seizures, but dismantling these drug networks.

00:29:23.000 Some of the largest victories we've had this year have been arresting drug kinpins and shutting down human trafficking and drug networks because that's how they pour these, unfortunately, these children and these narcotics into our communities.

00:29:37.000 And the FBI is leading the charge.

00:29:40.000 I know I'd rather go on and chat with you, but I'm being hailed over to run back across the street, Don.

00:29:47.000 So I totally understand.

00:29:48.000 I appreciate it.

00:29:49.000 We'll have to have you back on to talk about all the other stuff we were originally going to talk about, but this is a really big deal.

00:29:53.000 So, you know, Kash Patel, FBI director, just want to thank you for being on here and the work that you're doing.

00:30:00.000 Yeah, get it done, get it done right.

00:30:02.000 Let's make sure we get some justice.

00:30:03.000 I think that's what we all want in the end.

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