Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Lower Costs, Bigger Wins, Interviews with FDA Commissioner Dr. Makary & Reporter Luke Rosiak | TRIGGERED Ep.240

00:06:23.000 Hey guys, and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.

00:06:27.000 I hope you all had a nice weekend and an incredible Mother's Day.

00:06:32.000 I'm doing this a little bit early this afternoon, doing it beforehand, because my oldest daughter, Kai, is turning 18, so I just want to let her know how proud I am.

00:06:42.000 I'm looking forward to having dinner with her, probably as this is airing, but I also can't believe that I have an 18-year-old.

00:06:49.000 It makes me feel really old, but Kai, I love you.

00:06:52.000 Congratulations.

00:06:53.000 And I'm just incredibly proud of you.

00:06:56.000 So, guys, the news is breaking by the second.

00:07:00.000 So we've got a lot to get into.

00:07:01.000 Trade deals, hostage rescues, lower drug prices, all happening one after the other.

00:07:09.000 And meanwhile, Democrats are spending their time trying to break into ICE detention facilities.

00:07:17.000 They're trying to break into them.

00:07:19.000 I don't know.

00:07:20.000 You asked me, if some of them got deported, probably wouldn't be the end of the world, but I imagine that's not quite going to happen.

00:07:25.000 So we'll get into all of it here shortly.

00:07:29.000 And we have a major story surrounding the blatant hypocrisy surrounding refugee resettlement groups who are changing their tune.

00:07:40.000 We'll explain all of it shortly.

00:07:43.000 Plus...

00:07:44.000 FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary will be here along with Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak.

00:07:51.000 So we will be jam-packed today.

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00:09:47.000 And now, let's take a look at some of the top headlines.

00:09:52.000 And I actually want to start with a look at the blatant hypocrisy and the scam surrounding refugee resettlement groups called, namely, the Episcopal Migration Ministries.

00:10:08.000 Under Biden, they were the front lines, basically saying we need to take in as many refugees as we can.

00:10:17.000 And they're pretty much for open borders.

00:10:19.000 And they claim to be all about tolerance and protecting the most vulnerable.

00:10:24.000 But now, guys, they're changing their tune, announcing that they're terminating their partnership with the federal government to resettle refugees.

00:10:35.000 Huh.

00:10:35.000 They're citing.

00:10:36.000 Moral opposition.

00:10:38.000 You know why, guys?

00:10:40.000 Because the moral opposition that they're really upset about has to do with resettling white South African farmers who have been victims of discrimination and are now classified as refugees by the Trump administration.

00:10:57.000 Huh.

00:10:58.000 Interesting.

00:11:00.000 I mean, guys, it's almost like this group...

00:11:05.000 Doesn't really care about what they claim to care about. 1.00

00:11:09.000 I mean, it's almost like they're totally full of crap. 1.00

00:11:12.000 They're fine resettling accused criminal illegal alien gang members. 0.99

00:11:17.000 MS-13, Trendela, Ragwa, you name it, they'll resettle it.

00:11:21.000 But taking in a farmer, suffering from discrimination, you've seen what's going on in South Africa, it's crazy.

00:11:28.000 That's where they draw the line?

00:11:29.000 That's their hill to die on?

00:11:32.000 It's just another example.

00:11:35.000 Of these left-wing groups being nothing more than arms of the radical social justice wing of the Democrat Party.

00:11:44.000 And it's why their non-stop hysteria over anything and everything the Trump administration does, even when it's a resounding win, even when it's an 80-20 issue, never stops.

00:11:58.000 Which brings us, guys, to big news on trade, where stocks surged after the United States and China agreed to a 90-day pause, which each side agreeing to slash reciprocal, you got to remember it's reciprocal tariffs, by more than 100 percentage points, bringing China's duty rate down to just 10%.

00:12:21.000 Here's my father with more details from earlier today.

00:12:26.000 In addition, yesterday we achieved a total reset with China.

00:12:31.000 After productive talks in Geneva, both sides now agree to reduce the tariffs imposed after April 2nd to 10 percent for 90 days as negotiators continue on the larger structural issues.

00:12:46.000 And I want to tell you that a couple of things.

00:12:50.000 First of all, that doesn't include the tariffs that are already on, that are our tariffs, and it doesn't include tariffs on cars, steel, aluminum.

00:12:59.000 Things such as that.

00:13:01.000 Or tariffs that may be imposed on pharmaceuticals, because we want to bring the pharmaceutical businesses back to the United States, and they're already starting to come back now based on tariffs, because they don't want to pay 25, 50, or 100% tariffs, so they're moving them back to the United States.

00:13:18.000 I spoke to Tim Cook this morning, and he's going to, I think, even up his numbers, $500 billion.

00:13:27.000 He's going to...

00:13:29.000 Be building a lot of plants in the United States for Apple.

00:13:32.000 And we look forward to that.

00:13:34.000 I really do look forward to that.

00:13:36.000 But the talks in Geneva were very friendly.

00:13:41.000 The relationship is very good.

00:13:44.000 We're not looking to hurt China.

00:13:45.000 China was being hurt very badly.

00:13:47.000 They were closing up factories.

00:13:49.000 They were having a lot of unrest.

00:13:51.000 And they were very happy to be able to do something with us.

00:13:55.000 And the relationship is very, very good.

00:13:58.000 I'll speak to President Xi maybe at the end of the week.

00:14:02.000 We have some other things we're doing.

00:14:04.000 And guys, this isn't just about reorienting trade.

00:14:08.000 It's also about fentanyl.

00:14:11.000 Because for far too long, China has flooded our nation with drugs. 0.69

00:14:15.000 And it's cost hundreds of thousands of American lives.

00:14:18.000 Here's Treasury Secretary Scott Besant on why this matters.

00:14:25.000 This does not include any sector-specific tariffs that have been put across all of our trading partners.

00:14:36.000 And as the ambassador said, I think he would agree with me that the upside surprise for me from this weekend was The level of Chinese engagement on the fentanyl crisis in the United States.

00:14:53.000 They brought the Deputy Minister for Security for Public Safety, who was not traditionally part of the trade team or the negotiating team, and he had a very robust and highly detailed discussion.

00:15:15.000 All of the trade news followed by another historic actions from the White House as my father is putting real pressure on Big Pharma to lower the cost of prescription drugs and to end the status quo of Americans paying sky-high prices while simultaneously essentially subsidizing lower costs to the rest of the world.

00:15:38.000 In America, we pay X for drugs.

00:15:40.000 In the UK and...

00:15:42.000 Germany, other parts of the world, they pay a tiny fraction for the exact same drugs.

00:15:49.000 How has that ever happened?

00:15:50.000 How is that even possible?

00:15:51.000 Under the order, HHS, headed by Bobby Kennedy Jr., will facilitate direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical sales at most favored nation prices.

00:16:02.000 So what does that mean?

00:16:04.000 It means drug companies can't charge Americans more than the lowest drug price they sell abroad.

00:16:11.000 And it means we're not going to let Americans be ripped off any longer.

00:16:15.000 And it's yet another 80-20, frankly this should be like a 100% issue, but at least 80-20, because there's some Democrats who are insane and probably on the take, issue that Democrats want to be on the wrong side of.

00:16:28.000 And it's just another example of how the status quo is no longer the status quo in Washington, D.C. Here's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt breaking down the details.

00:16:41.000 So this pharmaceutical deal, I'm just going off the Truth Social post.

00:16:45.000 It says, it's a long one, but he says, I'm pleased to announce that today the White House at 9 o 'clock will be signing one of the most consequential executive orders ever.

00:16:53.000 They'll be reducing pharmaceuticals by about 80 percent.

00:16:57.000 Essentially, we are going to pay less than the country that's paying the least for pharmaceuticals from here on in.

00:17:04.000 How does that work?

00:17:06.000 First of all, it cannot be overstated how big of a deal this executive order that President Trump will be signing in a couple of hours is for American families, and especially our seniors, who have been ripped off by very large and rich pharmaceutical companies.

00:17:23.000 The United States of America is less than 5% of the world's population, yet we purchase 75% of big pharma's profits.

00:17:31.000 We pay an astronomical amount in comparison to other countries around the world.

00:17:36.000 So the president is signing an executive order today that is going to implement most favored nations' drug pricing and is going to reduce the cost of drugs in this country by more than half at least.

00:17:47.000 America is going to pay a better rate and a fairer rate to the rest of the world.

00:17:52.000 That's what the American people deserve.

00:17:54.000 This is huge news.

00:17:56.000 And also, I will add, we know that health care costs and drug prices were the number one driver of Biden's inflation.

00:18:01.000 So not only are we bringing those down, but we are ending Biden's inflation.

00:18:06.000 But guys, the major wins don't stop there, because we're also seeing the results all across the world under the Peace Through Strength Trump agenda.

00:18:19.000 For example, American citizen Eden Alexander is being released by Hamas after being held hostage since October 7, 2023.

00:18:30.000 Check this out.

00:18:35.000 Idun, in about two hours from now, or sometime today, let's say.

00:18:42.000 And again, they thought he was dead just a short while ago.

00:18:45.000 His parents are so happy.

00:18:47.000 They're so happy.

00:18:49.000 So it's, as you know, Idun's the only American citizen.

00:18:54.000 He's captured.

00:18:56.000 And held hostage by Hamas since October 7th, 2023.

00:19:03.000 And he's coming home to his parents, which is really great news.

00:19:08.000 I mean, to me, it's big news.

00:19:10.000 They thought he was dead.

00:19:12.000 So that's that.

00:19:14.000 So we'll be heading there and we'll be seeing three primary countries.

00:19:21.000 You know all about that.

00:19:22.000 Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar.

00:19:26.000 The news follows an announcement from Secretary of State Marco Rubio on the successful rescue of all hostages held by the Maduro regime at the Argentinian embassy in Caracas, Venezuela, in what was described as a precise extraction of the United States.

00:19:44.000 Meanwhile, it's looking like Russia and Ukraine will meet in Turkey this week, and my father is signaling that we're not going to spend endless amounts of time on a peace deal, and that the clock is ticking for both Putin and Putin.

00:20:04.000 And in between all of that, guys, Vice President J.D. Vance and the Secretary of State have negotiated a ceasefire between India and Pakistan.

00:20:15.000 Check this one out If you don't stop it, we're not going to do any trade People have never really used trade the way I used it that I can tell you and all of a sudden they said I think we're gonna stop and They have and that they did it for a lot of reasons, but Trade is a big one.

00:20:33.000 We're going to do a lot of trade with Pakistan.

00:20:36.000 We're going to do a lot of trade with India.

00:20:37.000 We're negotiating with India right now.

00:20:39.000 We're going to be soon negotiating with Pakistan.

00:20:42.000 And we stopped the nuclear conflict.

00:20:44.000 I think it could have been a bad nuclear war.

00:20:48.000 Millions of people could have been killed.

00:20:49.000 So I'm very proud of that.

00:20:50.000 I also want to thank Vice President Vance and Secretary of State Rubio for their work and efforts.

00:20:57.000 They worked very hard on that.

00:21:00.000 This is what real leadership looks like, guys.

00:21:04.000 The adults are actually back in charge.

00:21:08.000 The era of Biden appeasement is over.

00:21:11.000 No matter where in the world, America is no longer accepting managed decline.

00:21:18.000 We're not accepting it anymore, guys.

00:21:20.000 That's over.

00:21:20.000 And we're not going to be pushed around on the world stage by other countries, by rogue regimes, by corporate America, or anyone else.

00:21:30.000 And this applies to every issue, every sector, every department, especially on the issue of American energy dominance.

00:21:40.000 As Energy Secretary Chris Wright is revealing that the Biden administration pushed out $93 billion, okay?

00:21:49.000 $93 billion in green energy loans at the very end of 2024.

00:21:57.000 All while Biden and his auto pen enablers killed pipeline projects here while buying up oil from America's enemies and providing hard currency to rogue and often terrorist regimes.

00:22:10.000 But that's all over now.

00:22:12.000 Here's the energy secretary yesterday laying it all out.

00:22:17.000 A little over $40 billion was supplied in support through the loan program office in its 15 years of existence, a little over $40 billion, and then almost $100 billion in the 76 days after they lost the election and before President Trump's inauguration.

00:22:34.000 Like, if those were great ideas that were benefit to the America, why didn't they do it in the two and a half years after the Inflation Reduction Act was passed?

00:22:42.000 Why did they wait till they lost the election?

00:22:44.000 They changed terms in loan covenants.

00:22:47.000 They basically tried to set bombs to make it hard for us to unwind the mess they'd created.

00:22:53.000 That's just not a responsible way to treat American taxpayer money and to move our energy system forward. 0.59

00:22:59.000 So yes, we've stepped into a lot of mess, but this stuff's all fixable.

00:23:04.000 We've got an aggressive team going after it.

00:23:06.000 And you see already American energy prices are down, investments in America to bring jobs back are up.

00:23:13.000 So I think we're going the right direction, but yeah, we've got a lot to clean out.

00:23:17.000 Yes.

00:23:17.000 I mean, look, this has been a 25-year problem now.

00:23:20.000 Venezuela was a wealthy, prosperous society and a great ally of the United States and a huge energy producer.

00:23:26.000 Then they adopted, you know, they had Hugo Chavez and now Nicolas Maduro, two just awful, tyrannical leaders.

00:23:33.000 President Trump wants to use United States force or energy independence to force a change in Venezuela.

00:23:40.000 Chevron's a great American company, a little bit caught in the crossfire there, but we need to change the situation in Venezuela, not just for Venezuelans, but for all the gang members and refugees fleeing that country and millions of them ending out in the United States. 0.54

00:23:55.000 But I think peace through strength is going to be the winning strategy here.

00:24:00.000 But what are Democrats spending their time, guys?

00:24:03.000 What are they spending their time doing?

00:24:04.000 Well, they're apparently storming ICE facilities and getting arrested to stand up for their newest allies, their best friends, illegal immigrant gang members.

00:24:16.000 And that seems to be who the Democrat Party wants to support the most.

00:24:20.000 MS-13, Trendelaragua, bad people from bad parts of the world who've done a lot of bad things.

00:24:27.000 They want them living in your backyard. 1.00

00:24:30.000 Here was the scene last week at a Newark ice facility where the mayor of Newark was actually arrested for trespassing while Democrat members of Congress staged their latest political stunt.

00:24:45.000 Here was the scene outside the facility that day.

00:24:49.000 Here was the scene outside the facility.

00:25:18.000 Thank you.

00:25:19.000 If you're an American who wants lower drug prices, who wants violent criminals deported, who wants peace and prosperity, the Democrats don't have much to offer you.

00:25:32.000 But, guys, if you're a criminal, illegal alien, they will try to break into a federal detention facility at any length.

00:25:43.000 To defend you.

00:25:44.000 So we'll get into more of that in just moments with FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary.

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00:26:40.000 Well, guys, joining me now, FDA Commissioner Dr. Marty McCary.

00:26:46.000 Commissioner, thank you for joining us.

00:26:48.000 Great to be with you, Don.

00:26:50.000 Well, listen, obviously a lot going on.

00:26:52.000 I guess we'll start off with the breaking news on this order to lower drug costs.

00:26:58.000 Can you explain what specifically the order says and why it's so historic?

00:27:05.000 Yeah, this is a milestone day in health care.

00:27:09.000 You know, Americans have been getting ripped off massively on the price of drugs.

00:27:13.000 I mean, paying 10, 12, 15 times more than what they pay in other wealthy countries.

00:27:18.000 And it makes no sense.

00:27:19.000 And there's no reason for it, except that in the United States, nobody has really been standing up for everyday Americans.

00:27:25.000 So this executive order says that's going to stop.

00:27:29.000 This executive order starts with a request to these pharma companies to play ball and level the playing field.

00:27:35.000 Giving Americans the best prices that they offer for wealthy countries like Germany and France and in England.

00:27:42.000 And if they don't play ball, then we've got the full regulatory authority of this administration to use everything at the Federal Trade Commission, the U.S. Trade Representative, the DOJ looking at monopolistic pricing.

00:27:57.000 And at the FDA, we have a role as well, as well as Medicare, which is the biggest payer of these drugs.

00:28:03.000 So this is a comprehensive strategy that we've never seen before.

00:28:07.000 President Clinton talked about it a lot.

00:28:08.000 Obama talked about it a lot.

00:28:10.000 No one had the courage to do it until today.

00:28:12.000 So I guess the obvious question, Marty, and you sort of hit it on a little bit, is why are costs so high for Americans, but we're apparently essentially subsidizing low-cost drugs in the rest of the world?

00:28:26.000 How did we ever get to that point?

00:28:28.000 How has no one...

00:28:31.000 I mean, I can understand if they want to overcharge other countries because it's an American company, but if they're actually screwing the American taxpayer from American companies with American dollars, how did we ever get here?

00:28:46.000 Because we've been asleep at the wheel.

00:28:47.000 I mean, the same reason I think the instincts of the president...

00:28:51.000 Realize that we're getting a raw deal on NATO fees, on WHO membership fees, on tariffs.

00:28:57.000 And so when you actually look at it from the standpoint of the everyday American worker, it makes no sense.

00:29:03.000 When you look at it from the standpoint of large corporations, then the system's working kind of as broken as it's designed.

00:29:10.000 So I think politicians have come to Washington, D.C. and have said, you know, this doesn't look right, but in the end they have to make a decision.

00:29:18.000 Do they go with the lobbyist money or do they go with the interests of the everyday American?

00:29:22.000 And here's one where everybody has swam, has been swimming downstream.

00:29:27.000 And we've got now somebody swimming up current that says we're not going to do this anymore.

00:29:33.000 Yeah, I mean, it sounds so much like, I remember my father always told the story when he was sort of renewing the Air Force One contract.

00:29:44.000 You know, that's two planes, right?

00:29:45.000 So there's always a backup and whatever.

00:29:48.000 And, you know, he knows about planes.

00:29:49.000 He has a 757.

00:29:50.000 Those are obviously 747s.

00:29:52.000 And he was going through it, be like, how is it possible that two planes are, the contract was like $6 billion.

00:29:59.000 He's like, it needs to have a four on it.

00:30:01.000 And they were like, oh, wow, we can't do that.

00:30:02.000 And like a day later, they came back, okay, we can do it for four or whatever the exact number was.

00:30:06.000 But like, they took $2 billion.

00:30:08.000 And he asked like, well, how is it possible that you can do that?

00:30:12.000 If you could show me the line items, I can understand if it, you know, I'm sure there's...

00:30:15.000 You know, better communications and maybe some anti-missile defense systems or whatever it is, but not $4 billion worth or, you know, an extra $2 billion worth.

00:30:26.000 It didn't make any sense.

00:30:27.000 And basically, I think the response they gave them was like, oh, no one bothered to ask.

00:30:33.000 No one bothered to ask.

00:30:34.000 So you're right.

00:30:34.000 We were asleep at the wheel.

00:30:36.000 And I imagine it's not just this, but all the other stuff Doge has discovered and Air Force One. 0.93

00:30:41.000 Americans have been getting screwed.

00:30:42.000 I mean, I look at some of the prescriptions I have to fill, whether it's for me or for five kids every once in a while, and it's like, how is it possible that it's this expensive? 0.98

00:30:51.000 Yeah, I think because we've had middlemen that have basically said...

00:30:57.000 Look, keep your eyes off of what's going on here.

00:30:59.000 We're the experts.

00:31:00.000 We know how this works.

00:31:02.000 And you have all these middlemen.

00:31:03.000 It's not just pharma and their pricing.

00:31:05.000 All the middlemen along the way have been price-gouging everyday Americans.

00:31:09.000 And they don't sometimes feel it because it comes out of their paycheck.

00:31:13.000 It's a paycheck deduction for Medicare.

00:31:16.000 It's a paycheck deduction for employer-sponsored health care.

00:31:19.000 Until you realize, hey...

00:31:22.000 If you bought a Ford vehicle for $175,000 and found out it's $10,000 in London every day, all day long, you'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, can we have a talk with this company, with the car maker?

00:31:35.000 And can we have a level playing field?

00:31:37.000 And that's what's going on now.

00:31:39.000 It's exciting to be a part of it.

00:31:40.000 There's so much cool stuff.

00:31:42.000 That I did not expect in this job of being FDA commissioner.

00:31:45.000 Because we have free reign under this administration to do whatever makes sense.

00:31:52.000 And so we have incorporated AI last week for the first time in our scientific reviews.

00:31:57.000 We removed pharma members from FDA advisory committees wherever statutorily possible.

00:32:03.000 We're also creating a more user-friendly process.

00:32:06.000 So they can get more drugs and cures out faster.

00:32:09.000 We're reducing animal testing.

00:32:11.000 And that's just in the first few weeks.

00:32:13.000 So this has been great.

00:32:16.000 Yeah, I saw that the other day.

00:32:17.000 It was kind of a big one.

00:32:18.000 It's hard to believe they're still doing it.

00:32:19.000 But they're not going to test on beagles anymore.

00:32:22.000 I mean, who tests on beagles?

00:32:25.000 Isn't Snoopy a beagle?

00:32:26.000 We're really still doing it?

00:32:29.000 It's crazy that these things are still going on in practice.

00:32:33.000 You know, and it didn't work very well.

00:32:35.000 All it does is slow down cures to the American public.

00:32:37.000 Why does it take 10 years for a new drug to come to market?

00:32:42.000 Nobody has really asked that question before.

00:32:44.000 Why have we ignored our poisonous food supply and only talked about drugging kids at scale?

00:32:50.000 We had another company today sign on to our pledge to remove petroleum-based food dyes from the food supply.

00:32:59.000 We're going to keep going like this.

00:33:00.000 We are looking at every single thing in the U.S. food supply, every one of the root causes of our chronic disease epidemic, and we're going to keep going.

00:33:09.000 Yeah, I've had Bobby on the show, and we've talked about that.

00:33:16.000 Petroleum-based things in our food, it's wild.

00:33:19.000 Because, I mean, I go to Europe a lot, and you look at the same product, and the ingredients list is like a third the size, and you can actually pronounce these things.

00:33:28.000 How did we get to the point where all of those things got switched out?

00:33:31.000 When the rest of the world sort of acknowledges it as poison, and we're just like, eh, we just won't test it, so it's probably fine.

00:33:37.000 I mean, the notion of all that, whether it's seed oils or whatever, but basically things that were designed to be industrial lubricants during World War II.

00:33:44.000 We decided to start cooking with, I guess, military surplus lubricants.

00:33:51.000 How did that happen?

00:33:52.000 And again, I look at America, whether it's tech or militarily or so many other things, music and pop culture.

00:34:00.000 We're so much ahead of the world.

00:34:04.000 How did we get so far behind, quite candidly, even second and third world countries?

00:34:10.000 Well, I think the industry has captured some of our regulatory bodies.

00:34:15.000 You look at the FDA's history, OxyContin, for example, getting approved based on a 14-day study for chronic pain.

00:34:23.000 That was an illegal approval, in my opinion.

00:34:26.000 And then the regulator goes to work for Purdue Pharma immediately afterwards.

00:34:30.000 So we are doing a lot now to make sure we've got scientific integrity.

00:34:34.000 We're using common sense and gold standard science both.

00:34:38.000 When it comes to everything and when it comes to food, who really thinks we need a randomized controlled trial where we inject Half of the kids in the study with petroleum in their blood system and half without and then wait 10 years to see what happens.

00:34:55.000 We have to use more common sense at the FDA.

00:34:58.000 And that also means addressing rare diseases with drugs where there's a plausible mechanism that it works.

00:35:04.000 We've got to implement both the spirit and the letter of right to try in everything we do.

00:35:10.000 So I don't think there's been a lot of that common sense governing things like the grass standard where industry is...

00:35:16.000 It's just been able to say, hey, if we say it's safe, it's safe, and we're putting it in our food.

00:35:20.000 I mean, heck, yellow dye number five, tartrazine, was a coal ash byproduct from coal tar.

00:35:28.000 And somebody noticed it's bright yellow, and then they put it in fabric, thinking, oh, you know, it should work well in fabric.

00:35:34.000 And then they put it in food.

00:35:36.000 Yeah, because our Froot Loops absolutely have to glow in the dark to have the proper marketing effect on our children.

00:35:41.000 I mean, it's insane, but, like, I grew up eating Froot Loops.

00:35:45.000 You know, I'm sure, you know, I try to let my kids not eat this crap, but it's, you know, it's definitely, but, like, I honestly don't think that more kids or parents are buying Froot Loops because they glow in the dark versus being a slightly more natural hue of neon green. 0.83

00:35:59.000 I mean, it's crazy. 0.87

00:36:02.000 Glow in the dark, I love that.

00:36:05.000 Yeah, look, there's so many of these issues we've got to tackle.

00:36:09.000 It's just it's gotten out of control.

00:36:11.000 And nobody has really been courageous enough to look at it now until we've had this opportunity.

00:36:17.000 So we're doing it.

00:36:18.000 We're doing everything we can do.

00:36:20.000 And we've got the big Maha Commission report coming out next Thursday.

00:36:23.000 We're really excited about that.

00:36:25.000 One of the biggest pieces of misinformation the U.S. government's ever put out has been the food pyramid.

00:36:30.000 And so that's caused a lot of damage.

00:36:33.000 Yeah, we're turning it upside down.

00:36:35.000 It's totally upside down.

00:36:35.000 It always was.

00:36:37.000 And that's sort of crazy.

00:36:37.000 And the whole story about how...

00:36:39.000 You know, big tobacco, once they cracked down on them, basically became big food and used the same sort of, you know, addiction practices.

00:36:45.000 So I think it's such an incredible opportunity for America.

00:36:49.000 And I think this administration with you guys there, whether it's you, Bobby, so many people working at the FDA and HHS.

00:36:56.000 I mean, I think you have an opportunity for generational change that hopefully doesn't get overly politicized.

00:37:02.000 Because I think this is one of these, this isn't just an 80-20 issue.

00:37:04.000 This used to be like 100%.

00:37:06.000 You know, issue, but I guess I gotta ask, how is HHS and the FDA specifically engaging, you know, with the pharmaceutical industry and those companies?

00:37:16.000 Again, this is one of these 80-20 issues.

00:37:20.000 You see it, you see when people, you're watching TV, you see the reaction, like, wait a minute, that's happening?

00:37:25.000 And it's like, of course it's happening.

00:37:26.000 It's like, this is one of those across-the-aisle issues.

00:37:30.000 But you talked about lobbyists, you talk about the swamp, you know, it definitely has teeth.

00:37:36.000 How do you engage with these guys to get enough stuff done?

00:37:40.000 Not just through executive order, but to make sure that it's lasting.

00:37:42.000 That it's not like, okay, we'll do this. 0.96

00:37:45.000 We'll use up the surplus, and in four years we'll start our same old crap practices again. 0.97

00:37:50.000 The richest country in the world can also be the fattest and least healthy.

00:37:54.000 Well, we have more and more giant food companies coming out now and signing on to this pledge to remove all the petroleum-based dyes, not just one in three or four years, but all of them by the beginning of the school year next year.

00:38:08.000 That's our goal.

00:38:09.000 So that's going really well.

00:38:11.000 That's a big deal.

00:38:11.000 We're doing an inventory.

00:38:12.000 That's a big deal.

00:38:13.000 We've got more and more companies now interested in partnering with us on the ingredients in food.

00:38:19.000 And with pharma, we've got great relationships.

00:38:24.000 They know what's going on They've got kids They see what's happening, and they know that they have been gouging the American public with prices 10 times higher than prices overseas in some cases.

00:38:36.000 And so they recognize that there has been this disparity.

00:38:39.000 They recognize that people are onto it now, and they recognize now there's actually some action with some teeth on it.

00:38:45.000 So I think we're going to see good cooperation.

00:38:47.000 Look, I want American pharma companies to thrive.

00:38:50.000 I want to see companies that do business in the United States to thrive.

00:38:58.000 We're simply asking for a level playing field so they can thrive with a level playing field with other wealthy countries overseas.

00:39:05.000 Well, I mean, you bring up the overseas component.

00:39:07.000 I think that's an important one as well.

00:39:09.000 You know, what's your oversight scope in looking at these Chinese research centers that we're apparently funding, you know, and protecting our food supply chains?

00:39:18.000 You know, whether it's food supply or, frankly, you know, pharma stuff, where so many of our antibiotics and everything, I believe the number was like 93% are coming from...

00:39:26.000 China, who I imagine in a time of crisis or a time of war, is not going to be on our side on anything.

00:39:33.000 How do we handle that?

00:39:34.000 What does that all look like as well?

00:39:36.000 Well, you know, Don, when you come into these jobs like the job I have, there are things that shock you.

00:39:42.000 And one of the things that totally surprised me is that we have been putting American companies...

00:39:48.000 In terms of the inspections the FDA does on their manufacturing.

00:39:52.000 These American pharma manufacturing sites, we put them through the ringer and we let off these foreign sites easy. 1.00

00:40:00.000 For example, in the United States, we have surprise inspections of pharma manufacturing sites.

00:40:05.000 Overseas, they're scheduled.

00:40:06.000 Well, a scheduled inspection is no inspection.

00:40:09.000 I learned that limo drivers...

00:40:12.000 Paid for by the pharma companies, we're picking up our FDA inspectors overseas and taking them to the manufacturing plants to do the inspection.

00:40:21.000 Well, they know the exact ETA from the limo drivers.

00:40:26.000 I mean, it's a joke.

00:40:27.000 They've been laughing at us.

00:40:28.000 They've been laughing at us paying 10 times more for the same drugs, and it's really no different.

00:40:34.000 From, you know, us paying the disproportionate fare of WHO membership fees or NATO or anything else.

00:40:39.000 And so we are now moving to surprise inspections overseas.

00:40:44.000 Our inspections are not going to hang out for three and four weeks.

00:40:48.000 They're going to be in and out, and they're going to look for major stuff, and they're going to do more inspections.

00:40:53.000 How do we work about diversifying the overall supply chains?

00:40:55.000 Again, it seems like we're, you know, like with so many other things, we're so critically dependent on...

00:41:00.000 One actor, in most cases it's China, but whether it was semiconductors, it'd be Taiwan.

00:41:04.000 But Taiwan is 69 miles, 68 miles from China.

00:41:08.000 It doesn't seem like a great place to have all of our strategic reserves for semiconductors and other microchips vested in that place alone.

00:41:18.000 How do we encourage other countries to start picking some of this up so that we know we have a supply if we're not necessarily getting along with our allies or not so much allies?

00:41:27.000 We need to make it clear to manufacturing companies that if you manufacture in the United States, that includes medical devices, it includes food production, it includes drugs, that we're going to take care of you.

00:41:38.000 That's what we want, and you're in good standing with the FDA if you're moving your manufacturing to the United States.

00:41:43.000 We're going to cut the red tape, get rid of as much regulation as we can do within our safety limits, and we're going to encourage that.

00:41:52.000 Companies respond.

00:41:53.000 A number of large pharmaceutical companies have announced moving their manufacturing to the United States.

00:41:57.000 Now, it's going to take a couple years because these plans take a while to stand up.

00:42:02.000 But we're seeing a response to the call.

00:42:04.000 And we are doing, I mean, it is like the number one focus at the FDA is to remove this unnecessary red tape that stops this good stuff from happening.

00:42:14.000 Well, I think, listen, I think we really need a whole team who share that sort of same mission.

00:42:20.000 And we seem to be assembling the right people in the right places.

00:42:23.000 You know, again, Washington, D.C. has a lot of permanent people, people who are probably very well paid to make sure that some of these agenda items don't get rolled out.

00:42:33.000 Can you talk about how to combat that stuff internally?

00:42:36.000 Gosh, you know, we hear it all the time.

00:42:38.000 We hear, yo, well, this congressman's going to be upset or this senator might be upset.

00:42:42.000 Well, you can do two things.

00:42:44.000 You can either just play chicken, be scared all the time and do nothing.

00:42:47.000 Which is what most administrations do on these major moves.

00:42:52.000 Or you can be bold.

00:42:53.000 And so the only way you can be bold in a position like mine, like that of Mehmet Oz at Medicare, like Jay Bhattacharya at NIH, is if somebody's got your back.

00:43:03.000 And we have air support and cover that no one's had in these agencies.

00:43:09.000 And so we're going bold on every single thing we can.

00:43:14.000 That's great.

00:43:15.000 I guess I guess one last thing when we're talking about these is, you know, there's always the thing, you know, big pharma sort of gets grouped as big pharma and everything like that.

00:43:22.000 But you also have a lot of stuff in biotech.

00:43:24.000 And there seems to be a concern, you know, the guys that are actually coming up with some of this stuff, you know, investing a lot of money to come up with these next generation cures and everything.

00:43:33.000 And they sort of seem to be grouped together.

00:43:35.000 How do you handle the big pharma side of stuff to keep the cost down for Americans while simultaneously not...

00:43:42.000 What I hear from my friends who are either biotech investors, it's like, hey, China's just scooping up all the scientists because they pay them three times more.

00:43:49.000 There's no liability.

00:43:50.000 They let them do what they need to do.

00:43:52.000 It does feel like we don't want to give up our strategic advantage in ingenuity from the biotech side, which, again, I think gets grouped a lot with that.

00:44:01.000 How do we handle that?

00:44:02.000 Because it's actually a question that these guys are a little panicked about.

00:44:05.000 I'm like, it's actually a good question.

00:44:06.000 I was wondering if you knew.

00:44:09.000 Yeah, so we've got to modernize.

00:44:12.000 Last week, we had our first AI-assisted scientific review, and it went so well.

00:44:17.000 The reviewer said, the AI is helping me do in six minutes what normally takes me two to three days.

00:44:24.000 That was a direct quote from him.

00:44:25.000 We actually put it in the announcement.

00:44:27.000 So we've announced we're going to roll out this AI-assisted review agency-wide at the FDA for all scientific reviews by...

00:44:35.000 June 30th.

00:44:36.000 We're not messing around.

00:44:37.000 We've got a massive team that's coming in, some real geniuses.

00:44:40.000 And so we've got to modernize.

00:44:42.000 Right now, the FDA does really not know what to do with AI technology that we have to approve.

00:44:49.000 That is, separate from the AI we use to do our job better.

00:44:53.000 Wearables that come in with AI.

00:44:54.000 AI machines that help doctors and clinicians and CAT scan reads.

00:45:00.000 We don't know what to do with it because we have this system where you have to apply for an approval for every one of the 200 answers the AI can give you.

00:45:08.000 Well, it kills innovation.

00:45:10.000 So we've got to modernize and we've got teams working on all that stuff.

00:45:14.000 We can't be writing on stone tablets here in 2025.

00:45:18.000 Well, I really appreciate it.

00:45:20.000 I guess as we wrap up, We see all these joint research projects between even major corporations and American universities in places like China.

00:45:29.000 Does that also need a similar overhaul?

00:45:32.000 Is this the kind of place where we're funding it, but they're getting all the upside of our R&D dollars or stealing the IP and all of the usual practices that we've seen elsewhere?

00:45:44.000 Yeah, look, we are not going to tolerate studies that are done behind closed doors only in China where they're giving us results that are not believable.

00:45:53.000 So we've got to safeguard the American public against false claims.

00:45:57.000 And that means we want to see good, comprehensive gold standard science open in plain view.

00:46:03.000 And we want to use common sense as well.

00:46:05.000 We can do both.

00:46:07.000 Well, I really appreciate it.

00:46:08.000 FDA Commissioner Dr. Marnie McCary, thank you so much for joining us.

00:46:11.000 Look forward to seeing all the stuff you're rolling out in the next few weeks, and we'll have to have you back on once that stuff is in process.

00:46:17.000 Good to be with you.

00:46:18.000 Thanks so much, Don.

00:46:19.000 Thanks.

00:46:20.000 And guys, coming up, more major investigations into USAID and the blob.

00:46:28.000 Investigative reporter Luke Rosiak will be here with us to tell us all about it.

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00:47:43.000 Thanks for having me.

00:47:44.000 So you have a big story out about the fraud uncovered at USAID, and it's somehow even worse than what we've imagined.

00:47:54.000 I mean, you know, I knew it was going to be bad when this stuff started a few months ago.

00:47:57.000 You just knew that there had to be a lot there.

00:47:59.000 Then it's significantly worse than you ever imagined.

00:48:03.000 And it just keeps going.

00:48:05.000 What's the latest?

00:48:07.000 Well, so there's a little agency, sort of a little brother of USAID, called the African Development Foundation.

00:48:13.000 And when Doge tried to audit its books, the staff actually locked the doors and physically prevented them from entering.

00:48:21.000 I saw that story, yeah.

00:48:23.000 The administration only got in through the federal marshals forcibly opening the doors.

00:48:28.000 And so a lot of people heralded this agency for speaking truth to power and standing up for their principles and all this stuff.

00:48:34.000 But one of the things that Elon says is if people resist an audit, it's probably because they have something to hide.

00:48:40.000 And so I decided to look into this agency because I never heard of it, just like most people never did.

00:48:45.000 And it didn't take long to figure out, mostly by talking to the employees there themselves, that this thing was corrupt from top to bottom.

00:48:53.000 And the first thing that they did is obviously they're supposed to give money to Africa.

00:48:57.000 But what they would do is have the African entities give it back to them under the table. 0.90

00:49:01.000 So in some cases, they were literally just like paying, like wiring money into the bank accounts of bureaucrats in D.C. while Congress thought.

00:49:08.000 This is all money that's going to Africa. 0.53

00:49:11.000 I mean, what kind of money are you talking about here?

00:49:14.000 So the agency itself only has a budget of $45 million.

00:49:17.000 A lot of that goes to overhead as it is.

00:49:20.000 But then the portion that goes over to Africa, a lot of it was coming back.

00:49:24.000 We don't know the full amount.

00:49:25.000 I don't know the full amount.

00:49:26.000 But I know that numerous employees were receiving these.

00:49:29.000 I saw an invoice.

00:49:30.000 For $17,000 wired from an LLC in Nigeria into the bank account of the assistant of the president.

00:49:37.000 To be clear, this is the assistant of the president under Biden.

00:49:42.000 Just to be clear.

00:49:43.000 The CEO of this agency, the CEO and president of this charity agency.

00:49:48.000 And so, yeah, he was like a DEI.

00:49:51.000 Employee at the Peace Corps, and then he became under Biden, the CEO of this agency.

00:49:57.000 By the way, never paid his taxes for years until he took the federal job.

00:50:01.000 He had to finally pay his taxes to become head of this federal agency.

00:50:05.000 But the chief financial officer also was giving money to contracts, like contracts for travel during COVID when there was no travel.

00:50:15.000 So the USAID IG actually looked into that and found that he was receiving Secret Bank.

00:50:20.000 First of all, the company he was paying was his friend for decades.

00:50:23.000 And his friend was then paying him money every time he got a contract from this agency.

00:50:29.000 So it certainly looked like criminal kickbacks.

00:50:32.000 USAID was in court laying some of that out there.

00:50:35.000 But the guy was never arrested.

00:50:36.000 I don't know if that's still in the works or what.

00:50:39.000 So, yeah, what is the legal process here from this point on?

00:50:42.000 What's next?

00:50:43.000 Because, yeah, I mean, it to me seems just outright criminal.

00:50:47.000 There's not even like, there's no other way to imagine this, I don't think.

00:50:51.000 Yeah, so I think everyone's been placed on leave right now to be laid off.

00:50:56.000 But I think Congress needs to act to make sure this doesn't come back.

00:51:01.000 Ted Cruz has introduced a bill to abolish this agency permanently.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, whether there's criminal, certainly the CFO, I think, is, you know, there's a very credible criminal case against him, probably others as well, to ensure that there's accountability here.

00:51:18.000 We don't just put this behind us, but there's a deterrent effect for other people.

00:51:22.000 But I also think it's a lesson for, it is sort of a vindication of what people were saying about USAID and is this money basically being laundered to consultants in Bethesda.

00:51:32.000 This is very strong evidence that this is...

00:51:36.000 What was happening.

00:51:37.000 Another thing that I think is a lesson here moving forward is there's a racial component to this.

00:51:43.000 The general counsel basically turned whistleblower for this agency saying, I'm the top lawyer here and I'm saying you guys are constantly breaking the law with everything.

00:51:52.000 Personnel, procurement, all this stuff.

00:51:55.000 Ethics, you know, conflict of interest.

00:51:58.000 And basically, they tortured him for being white.

00:52:01.000 They put him on leave to prevent him from exposing his investigation. 0.80

00:52:05.000 And he actually has a sworn affidavit from a black staff saying, yeah, they straight up said we won't hire any white people.

00:52:11.000 But the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission rejected his complaint.

00:52:15.000 So there is an element of is there going to be a recourse for people who are white, who are discriminated against in federal employment?

00:52:23.000 Yeah, you actually found that.

00:52:25.000 I imagine that if it was anyone other than white men, It would be a serious problem. 1.00

00:52:30.000 And yet, in this case, like all things that are against MAGA or common sense or basic fairness, as long as it's not a white beneficiary, it's totally fine to just break the law, to disregard practices, and to have a whistleblower who, you know, I definitely remember all the whistleblowers against Trump were beyond reproach, even if they were basically criminals themselves.

00:52:53.000 That didn't seem to matter.

00:52:55.000 Here, it's the opposite.

00:52:57.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:52:58.000 I mean, I've done stories over the years about there was one story out of the Housing and Urban Development Department where this staff who was black claimed that her boss made some little rascals joke.

00:53:09.000 It was totally inoffensive.

00:53:11.000 It didn't really even seem racial to me.

00:53:12.000 But she claimed that it was racist and she was offended.

00:53:15.000 She got a million dollar payout for that.

00:53:17.000 So it's a total double standard. 0.66

00:53:19.000 But the other thing is sort of the lecturing and the moralizing that we often receive of if you want to shut down this government agency, You hate poor people or you hate Africans.

00:53:30.000 The people that we put in charge, they, in fact, didn't seem to care very much about Africans.

00:53:37.000 They cared more about themselves.

00:53:39.000 And so one of the guys on the board of this agency was CEO of Herbalife.

00:53:43.000 Herbalife is basically a pyramid scheme.

00:53:45.000 They paid a penalty for foreign and corrupt practices. 0.91

00:53:50.000 And basically, yeah, being this...

00:53:52.000 Unethical, multi-level marketing scheme.

00:53:55.000 So this African Development Foundation pushed Herbalife onto African peasants, which benefited its own board member. 0.86

00:54:01.000 So instead of helping African peasants, they're trying to make a buck off them. 0.99

00:54:05.000 Yeah.

00:54:06.000 Again, the other complaint I keep seeing this week, I guess it was Equinox, like the gym company, lost an almost $12 million lawsuit because there was a lady, I guess, of color who was fired.

00:54:18.000 And she said it was racism, even though, you know, she was late 47 times in the last year.

00:54:22.000 Like, you know, it definitely only seems to go one way.

00:54:25.000 But when it does that in these select venues, especially in liberal cities, you know, it's a handpicked jury that's just happy to administer, you know, some sort of level of, you know, social justice, even if it's nonsense.

00:54:38.000 They just don't care.

00:54:39.000 It's like it's someone else's problem.

00:54:40.000 No one wants to be seen as the person that could be somehow racist for firing someone for cause.

00:54:47.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:54:49.000 And I mean, they basically put this whistleblower through the ringer.

00:54:52.000 They actually framed him for making death threats.

00:54:56.000 And they just completely ruined his life.

00:54:59.000 And there was really nothing they could say that he did wrong other than the fake death threats.

00:55:04.000 They also said he was insubordinate for investigating them for breaking the law when they told him not to.

00:55:09.000 And so it's just such a flagrant case of wrongdoing.

00:55:13.000 And you see the left making this African aid agency into this David versus Goliath story where they're the hero.

00:55:19.000 And it is a case of the Democrats stepping on a rake.

00:55:22.000 It's always pretty funny when that happens, when they go all in on making this the case study of what government should be, when it's actually the exact opposite.

00:55:31.000 And it does make you wonder how often, how many other government agencies operate like this.

00:55:36.000 Obviously, I guess this is at DOJ, so hopefully there's...

00:55:41.000 There's at least some reasonable, open-minded people looking at this.

00:55:44.000 But I guess the process is, hey, in a Biden administration, everyone's a leftist.

00:55:48.000 Do it in D.C. They'll find there's no wrongdoing, even if there's flagrant wrongdoing.

00:55:52.000 And it's swept under the rug.

00:55:53.000 The guy's fired and his life is ruined, even if it is fraud, even if it is waste, even if he's just doing his job and they're breaking the law.

00:56:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I wonder about that a lot with the D.C. Juries, people talk about how well if the Democrats, you know, basically target people for their political beliefs, then the Republicans might do the opposite, and that's bad.

00:56:13.000 But the Republicans, I don't know, they could be thwarted by a D.C. jury who says, actually, it's totally okay to commit all kinds of crimes when you are a Democrat.

00:56:23.000 But realistically, I mean, these are people that were basically, it seems like they were swindling Africans and taking money that was supposed to go to poor Africans.

00:56:32.000 And using it for themselves to do luxury travel and to buy, you know, high-end suits and to get their next job.

00:56:39.000 And so I don't think they're really very sympathetic to anyone.

00:56:41.000 I think it really shocks the conscience for Americans of all political beliefs.

00:56:47.000 And, you know, the top guy, C.D. Glynn, I mean, he used government money to buy, basically put himself, pay money to this company that...

00:56:57.000 We'll get you on boards using DEI qualifications if you pay them money.

00:57:01.000 He used taxpayer money to pay for that, and next thing you know, he's in charge of the PepsiCo Foundation's board.

00:57:08.000 So he's in charge of $70 million right now.

00:57:11.000 So that's the kind of thing that happens a lot in D.C. is when people do bad things, you're looking for them to get punished, and instead they fail upwards, and they actually go on to do even more prominent things.

00:57:22.000 Yeah, I know that you found that federal prosecutors in D.C. say that a senior USAID contracting officer essentially created a fake company to steer himself money via the coronavirus bailout.

00:57:34.000 How deep does all of this go?

00:57:35.000 I mean, you know, we've been talking for five minutes, ten minutes, and it's like, here's seven examples of, like, how much, I mean, you know, again, hey, no one knows better than me just how rotten it is, but, like, even I'm shocked at just how bad it all is.

00:57:50.000 Yeah, no, I mean, I did a four-part series in the Daily Wire on this little agency, and that's way more than I normally do, but everywhere you turned, there was just...

00:57:59.000 Flagrant law-breaking.

00:58:00.000 And there was no recourse.

00:58:01.000 I mean, employees went to the Office of Special Counsel.

00:58:04.000 They went to the Equal Opportunity Employment.

00:58:06.000 They went to the USAID Inspector General.

00:58:08.000 They went to the Senate.

00:58:09.000 And nothing ever happened.

00:58:11.000 And so this is a case where this kind of thing went on and on for years.

00:58:15.000 And it wasn't until Doge came along that things finally changed.

00:58:20.000 And so some people are saying who worked in the agency, this is all totally true.

00:58:24.000 It really was corrupt.

00:58:25.000 But we think you should just go more go slow and don't be too radical.

00:58:29.000 And it's like, well, wait a minute.

00:58:30.000 The Democrats had years to fix these problems and they didn't.

00:58:34.000 And, you know, you brought up a great example there where they're they're using coronavirus.

00:58:39.000 I mean, the head of this agency.

00:58:53.000 So he said, look, I'm going to give you this grant to buy these COVID masks, and then you're going to subcontract it to the Aspen Institute.

00:58:59.000 And they were like, we already have COVID masks.

00:59:01.000 We don't need anymore.

00:59:02.000 And he's like, don't worry, just take the money.

00:59:04.000 So it really does raise a lot of questions about how how common this is in government.

00:59:10.000 And certainly the theme that I've seen is if left to their own devices, government agencies will devolve into something that is primarily just an employment center for the state.

00:59:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I think we've seen that.

00:59:24.000 You saw, you know, when Elon bought Twitter, and he fired 80% of the employees, and guess what?

00:59:28.000 Nothing changed.

00:59:29.000 Like, it actually got better.

00:59:31.000 I imagine the federal government is probably even...

00:59:34.000 Even worse than that.

00:59:36.000 I think we've covered four or five different sort of cases of what seems to me to be flagrant criminality.

00:59:44.000 Are all of these things being pursued?

00:59:46.000 Are these people going to be held accountable, in your opinion?

00:59:50.000 Yeah, I mean, the USAID Inspector General has been looking into it for years.

00:59:54.000 They've been getting tips from whistleblowers that were desperate for somebody to come help them since, like, 2021 or earlier.

01:00:00.000 I don't think they should have taken so long.

01:00:02.000 Some people feel like they were just sitting on it or not doing enough.

01:00:06.000 On the other hand, there are court documents indicating that they really did substantiate some very serious things here.

01:00:13.000 So they got something going on.

01:00:15.000 We'll see if they come through.

01:00:17.000 But we need inspectors general.

01:00:18.000 Those dudes have badges and they can throw you in jail. 0.98

01:00:22.000 So one of the things that I think would be cool that would happen is if inspectors general started to become more like Doge.

01:00:28.000 Like you can do the inspector general job in sort of an apathetic way or you can do it in a super aggressive way.

01:00:33.000 And it would be really cool if we just turned these inspector general things into just engines of just corruption fighting and just throw all these people in jail.

01:00:41.000 Yeah.

01:00:42.000 How much of this would ever actually come to light if, say, Kamala Harris had won?

01:00:46.000 I don't think any of it would.

01:00:48.000 And again, I mean, it's funny because the left is acknowledging a lot of problems now.

01:00:52.000 They'll be like, well, we admit that the government's very inefficient.

01:00:54.000 We just think you should go slow in reforming it.

01:00:57.000 It's like, wait a minute, you didn't admit that at all when you were in charge.

01:01:00.000 After you lost the election, you're saying, oh.

01:01:03.000 So, yeah, they weren't going to tell us about any of this.

01:01:06.000 The only reason I was able to dig up so much information about this little foreign aid agency is because the employees themselves had been desperately screaming into the void.

01:01:14.000 And they actually went to liberal media outlets and asked them to write the story about corruption.

01:01:18.000 And the media outlets wouldn't do it because they felt like it would help the Trump administration shut down U.S.A.

01:01:26.000 I mean, yeah, it's crazy.

01:01:28.000 And I guess it's also interesting.

01:01:30.000 I mean, the suburbs in D.C. have been some of the most expensive and highest income areas.

01:01:34.000 In America, I think by a zip code, probably the most.

01:01:38.000 How much of it was just the massive transfer of federal dollars to these NGOs, the kickbacks, and essentially taxpayer-funded gravy trains to enrich the so-called D.C. elites?

01:01:49.000 I mean, it all feels so completely artificial.

01:01:53.000 I've been asking that one for years.

01:01:54.000 I wrote books about it.

01:01:56.000 What do they create?

01:01:58.000 What do they do?

01:01:59.000 How are they so wealthy without...

01:02:04.000 Yeah, they don't do anything.

01:02:09.000 I mean, there's so many of these little government agencies.

01:02:11.000 I did something years ago on one called the Commission for the Preservation of America's Heritage Abroad.

01:02:16.000 And they put Hunter Biden's friend, Eric Schwerin, on it.

01:02:19.000 And he used it to steer money to a venture that he was involved in, I think.

01:02:23.000 And they were paying a lobbyist for a foreign country to be in charge of it.

01:02:28.000 And he was billing like $150,000, which isn't that much until you find out that he's only working like four hours a week.

01:02:34.000 And really, nobody can tell you what any of these people do.

01:02:38.000 So it really is incredible.

01:02:39.000 And I think to get back to your Twitter analogy, you could cut 80% of this and nobody would know that it's missing.

01:02:47.000 So on one hand, you talk about, we've got to...

01:02:49.000 Cut the deficit because we, you know, we just have to.

01:02:52.000 Are we willing to, even if we have to feel the hurt, it's something we got to do.

01:02:56.000 But honestly, there's so many things we could cut and nobody's even going to know the difference except for the people that are actually getting paid to be employed by it.

01:03:03.000 Yeah, you brought up the Hunter Biden thing.

01:03:04.000 I always find it so interesting because I see the amount of hit pieces that are like in process or written about me on a daily basis.

01:03:10.000 Like I've been a business guy for 25 years.

01:03:11.000 I've invested in American companies.

01:03:13.000 Like what's the same?

01:03:15.000 I'm like.

01:03:16.000 What are you talking about?

01:03:19.000 You guys were dead silent on this thing for years.

01:03:21.000 I wrote a book about it, Liberal Privilege, in 2020 about all of these things.

01:03:27.000 No different than Joe Biden's dementia.

01:03:29.000 It's like, oh, well now we're going to talk about it.

01:03:31.000 It's like, you're going to talk about it?

01:03:32.000 We didn't know it was going on.

01:03:34.000 I was like, you mean you didn't see the guy fall down the stairs day in and day out, forget where he was, stop mid-sentence, have to be guided around by the Easter Bunny?

01:03:42.000 It's not the same, guys.

01:03:43.000 It's not the same.

01:03:45.000 No.

01:03:46.000 And, you know, it'll be great to see what's going to come out of the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C. Now, I mean, there was a case on Friday.

01:03:54.000 There was a USAID senior procurement official, this African guy that was in charge of giving out hundreds of thousands of dollars to foreign countries.

01:04:01.000 And it turned out that he himself defrauded the...

01:04:05.000 Pandemic Paycheck Protection Program by creating a fake company and saying he worked there and getting all this money.

01:04:12.000 And there was so many, you know, you read the indictment, there were so many obvious red flags and nobody ever checked this application before paying out this money.

01:04:21.000 The LLC didn't exist.

01:04:22.000 He didn't.

01:04:23.000 He actually worked for the government.

01:04:24.000 All the dates were wrong.

01:04:26.000 And so this is, again, the kind of thing that Doge is really coming in and using basic database skills, matching up two databases to see whether it even makes sense.

01:04:35.000 But yeah, I mean, this is just another...

01:04:37.000 There needs to be consequences for people that do it because if they're not going to...

01:04:42.000 There needs to be a deterrent effect.

01:04:44.000 So it'll be interesting what happens to this African guy.

01:04:48.000 Yeah, I mean, Luke, where can people find you so they can follow along?

01:04:51.000 Because, I mean, this is important work.

01:04:52.000 Again, it's not going to be covered on the nightly news.

01:04:54.000 It's not going to be covered in the mainstream media.

01:04:56.000 Honestly, mainstream conservative media may not even cover it because I'm sure, you know, I imagine the Democrats are the great beneficiaries of all of these things, but I'm plenty sure there's probably some people allegedly on our side with an R next to their name that are, you know, either okay with it or some sort of beneficiaries as well.

01:05:14.000 You know, where can people find you so they can keep up with what's going on?

01:05:17.000 Check it out on The Daily Wire, and I'm also on X at Luke Rosiak.

01:05:21.000 Very nice.

01:05:21.000 Well, Luke, thank you very much for joining us.

01:05:24.000 I really appreciate it.

01:05:25.000 Stay in touch, and as things break, we'll talk about them right here.

01:05:28.000 Thanks for having me, Don.

01:05:29.000 Be well.

01:05:31.000 Guys, thanks so much for tuning in.

01:05:33.000 Remember to like, to share, subscribe, to get the word out.

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