Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Make Main St Great Again, Interviews with Alex Marlow & John Phillips | TRIGGERED Ep.233

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00:06:39.000 We'll have the editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, Alex Marlowe.

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00:08:29.000 I'm good, Don.

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00:08:31.000 I'm doing pretty well.

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00:08:33.000 I mean, I guess I'd ask, you know, for viewers who aren't really familiar, what is Burna and why are so many Americans Sure, it's anyone that's concerned about the personal safety.

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00:09:46.000 What about the other 99%, right? 0.82

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00:12:41.000 So looking ahead, what's the most exciting development you guys have for areas of growth, et cetera, for Burna in the near future?

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00:13:40.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's pretty important, actually.

00:13:41.000 I saw the Supreme Court, you know, basically stayed the New York, you know, ridiculous restrictions on firearms.

00:13:47.000 I mean, it was really almost impossible, especially with your New York City limits.

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00:14:29.000 Awesome. I mean, the regions, excuse me.

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00:15:42.000 Guys, joining me now, Breitbart News Editor-in-Chief Alex Marlowe, along with KABC and KSFO radio host John Phillips.

00:15:51.000 Good to have you guys both.

00:15:52.000 I think last time you were both on together as well, so this works out pretty well.

00:15:56.000 I think, Alex, you may have been on one more time solo for your book, but I think we've done this combo before, so I like it.

00:16:04.000 Yeah, we did this combo before, and I think it's my fourth time on, so I'm like a veteran.

00:16:07.000 You guys both have great shows, so I'm really happy to be here.

00:16:09.000 I appreciate it, man.

00:16:10.000 You're doing a good job combating all the fake news that's out there, and God knows there's enough of it.

00:16:16.000 I have got a lot of sleep lately, but there certainly is a lot of fake news to give us some content over Breitbart.

00:16:21.000 Oh, it's crazy. 0.54

00:16:23.000 You see the nonsense.

00:16:24.000 The nonsense is starting, so we're in for a couple of years of this, but that's okay.

00:16:29.000 I think America's going to win in the long run.

00:16:32.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:16:33.000 I think so.

00:16:34.000 And I think that right now what's going on is it's very sweet because we've never seen a president actually keep his promises that he makes to people.

00:16:41.000 And you talk about issues for 30 years, and then you run on those issues, and then you do these issues, and then everyone acts like they're surprised that you're doing the things that you promised to do.

00:16:49.000 It shows you how broken our system is that we actually don't anticipate the politicians do what they're supposed to do.

00:16:55.000 Today, there's a huge story.

00:16:56.000 One of our top stories right now is, as we're having this conversation, Don, Is Josh Shapiro in Pennsylvania who campaigned on school choice, and then he's just completely buckling the teachers' unions and doing everything they say and not doing school choice.

00:17:07.000 And it's just one of these things where it just shows you, of course, who all these guys are.

00:17:11.000 They don't put their money where their mouth is.

00:17:13.000 Donald Trump Sr. is different.

00:17:15.000 Yeah, I mean, you guys have been really, at Breitbart, relentlessly exposing how failed, you know, let's call it free trade in very broad air quotes, policies have really hollowed out American cities and town.

00:17:28.000 Alex, from your perspective, why do you think the legacy media seems so determined to downplay or ignore the real scope of what's actually happening?

00:17:35.000 They didn't panic when the Rust Belt was decimated, but they're panicking now.

00:17:39.000 Why is that?

00:17:40.000 Yeah, that's right, because it hurts Donald Trump.

00:17:43.000 So remember, if Trump does something well, he had nothing to do with it.

00:17:47.000 And if Trump does something where they can get him, then he solely was responsible for it.

00:17:51.000 So that's their logic.

00:17:52.000 That's how they've been.

00:17:53.000 All of these people who did not care about Biden inflation, they did not care about the open border, they did not care about...

00:17:59.000 All of manufacturing being outsourced to China.

00:18:01.000 They do not care when 13 service members were killed during the botched Afghanistan pullout.

00:18:05.000 They don't care about anything that actually matters to Americans.

00:18:08.000 They don't care when there's two men competing for a women's championship in some sporting event. 1.00

00:18:12.000 None of that bothers them.

00:18:13.000 What bothers them is when they have any... 1.00

00:18:16.000 Shit they can use, any news cycle they can use to try to take down Trump. 1.00

00:18:21.000 This has been going on for 10 years, and people have to be hardened to this. 1.00

00:18:25.000 If this is freaking you guys out, then you guys got to grow a spine here, because this is not so bad.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, I mean, we make decisions to get some guy re-elected in two weeks that we end up eating for 50 years.

00:18:37.000 I mean, it's not all that sustainable.

00:18:39.000 I mean, if you go back to some of these clips from the 90s or early 2000s, you know...

00:18:43.000 I should put them up on here.

00:18:44.000 It's like Nancy Pelosi talking about tariffs.

00:18:46.000 Almost verbatim to what Trump's doing.

00:18:49.000 And it was a great idea when she said it then.

00:18:50.000 They didn't have the guts to actually enact it, but it was a great idea then.

00:18:53.000 You had Barack Obama do the same.

00:18:55.000 You had Warren Buffett writing an article about how this is the way to, frankly, the only way to save America.

00:19:01.000 And now they've forgotten all about this.

00:19:03.000 But, you know, John, you're a fourth-generation Californian.

00:19:07.000 How does this economic debate about tariffs parallel to what we've seen in California over the last 40 years, in the sense that if you don't address problems that is right in front of your face, it only continues to get worse?

00:19:20.000 Well, we've seen that with immigration here, certainly.

00:19:23.000 We've seen that with what we do with fires and water policy, and we had to live that here in Los Angeles recently.

00:19:30.000 But I think that what's going on right now is such a shock to the system.

00:19:35.000 To Alex's point, because they love to call your dad a liar.

00:19:39.000 They call him a liar on a regular basis because he said, well, you know, The Apprentice had X ratings and they say, oh, it was really Y. Well, it was the number one show on NBC and the centerpiece of the primetime lineup for years.

00:19:49.000 It was a well-rated show.

00:19:51.000 Does it really matter if it was X or Y?

00:19:53.000 But they focus on things like that.

00:19:55.000 Yet he ran on this platform and he's actually following through with it.

00:20:00.000 The big ticket items, something that none of these politicians in either party ever do.

00:20:05.000 And they're acting like it's some sort of massively shocking thing.

00:20:10.000 Right. Yeah, you know, you're supposed to tell your constituents that you're going to do something and then you get to D.C. and you do the opposite and you're supposed to keep getting reelected for lying to your people.

00:20:20.000 I mean, it certainly hasn't worked in the past.

00:20:22.000 So, I mean, at least we're trying something new.

00:20:24.000 I mean, this is.

00:20:25.000 I feel like for the last few decades, we've been living Einstein's definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

00:20:31.000 Well, because I think what they want to do is they want to run on these issues.

00:20:35.000 If every cycle you know you can run on immigration or you can run on abortion or you can run on any of these subjects, and it's going to pay off, it's going to result in you making campaign dollars or you filling up a room full of people or whatever, you benefit from that.

00:20:50.000 And the fact that someone's actually trying to fix a big, major problem is just something they fundamentally don't understand.

00:20:57.000 They don't ever want to fix these things.

00:20:59.000 They want them to exist forever so they can continue to benefit from them.

00:21:03.000 And then you have this guy who's coming in who's just trying to fix all of these long-term structural problems, and they just don't understand it.

00:21:12.000 It's like he's speaking a different language.

00:21:14.000 Yeah, I mean, Alex, we're seeing my father actually do what he said he was going to do.

00:21:18.000 And this time around, he's got a cabinet that will actually back him, not the guys just kicking the can down the road trying to wait him out, the unelected bureaucrats just being the guys in charge.

00:21:29.000 Based on Breitbart's reporting, what are the most dishonest narratives that the established media is pushing right now that the people need to be aware of?

00:21:37.000 I mean, there's such a different dichotomy between what I read in the press and what I see in real life.

00:21:42.000 Yeah, so the first one is, just to emphasize it because it is the big story this week, is the tariffs that the economy is crumbling.

00:21:49.000 No, the stock market's down a little bit, but again, as we're having this conversation, Don, it's up year over year.

00:21:55.000 The way I phrase it is we had a Biden sugar high at the end of his presidency where he tried to pump all this money into the economy, which artificially juiced it, and that sold off, but it is not the end of the world for the economy because we saw a roaring jobs report for this month.

00:22:12.000 Big distinction.

00:22:13.000 Also, roaring non-governmental jobs.

00:22:15.000 So it's just not a bureaucrat.

00:22:17.000 These are actual factory workers.

00:22:19.000 These are real people.

00:22:20.000 These aren't government bureaucrats that are getting paid a lot of money probably to do nothing. 0.99

00:22:25.000 Yeah, and so the latest polling in his approval numbers are he's at 54% in one poll.

00:22:29.000 I mean, these are monster numbers, especially after SignalGate, where we were all told that he'd compromised national security because Jeffrey Goldberg got put on one signal text chain.

00:22:37.000 The public is not buying it, which is such a relief, because it is nice to actually talk about the issues and not just complain about the media.

00:22:44.000 Because when we're talking about these tariff policies, they're actually pretty nuanced and really interesting.

00:22:48.000 There's a lot of different elements to them.

00:22:50.000 The nature of the reciprocal tariffs.

00:22:52.000 First of all, Don, here's another fake news item.

00:22:54.000 How come we were never allowed to ask that why are we getting tariffed by Vietnam 90% and we barely tariffed them at all? 0.66

00:23:01.000 Why is that okay?

00:23:02.000 Why do we like that?

00:23:04.000 And that's from the people that are talking about free trade endlessly.

00:23:07.000 They're talking about free trade endlessly, but there's nothing free trade about them putting a 90% tariff on our stuff but not doing anything back.

00:23:14.000 Exactly. And so that's why I've called for equitable trade.

00:23:17.000 Like, I think we've got to rebrand reciprocal equitable because we could use the last favorite word for it.

00:23:21.000 And it's just, like, that's what we need.

00:23:23.000 And here's the thing, is that the way we've readjusted the tariffs is we're still getting rolled.

00:23:28.000 We're just getting rolled a little less.

00:23:30.000 And that's all.

00:23:31.000 We sent a signal to the world, you've got to cooperate.

00:23:33.000 And one by one, all these nations are going to come to heel.

00:23:36.000 As we're having this conversation today, the EU is talking about, can we have some zero-to-zero tariffs now?

00:23:40.000 Ursula von der Leyen, one of the number one globalists on planet Earth.

00:23:43.000 She's coming back to the table.

00:23:45.000 She was whining like a little baby last week. 1.00

00:23:47.000 And this week she's saying, OK, Don, let's talk.

00:23:49.000 What can we do, Mr. President?

00:23:51.000 And that's how it's going to go.

00:23:52.000 And my audience is just so thrilled.

00:23:54.000 They're over the moon for those two things.

00:23:56.000 First of all, it's the right policy.

00:23:58.000 And second of all, the bravery, the ballsiness, the fearlessness.

00:24:02.000 I mean, you see him earlier in the week.

00:24:03.000 We're just joking around with the Dodgers, like making fun of the Democrat senators in the room.

00:24:07.000 I mean, that's the guy we love.

00:24:08.000 It's the guy who is just fearlessly standing up against.

00:24:14.000 Yeah, and that doesn't mean there's not some short-term pain, but we live in this instant gratification society where we expect everything to be great in the short term and also work out in the long term, and that doesn't work out well.

00:24:26.000 I think for the average American right now, listen, if your 401k takes a 5%, 10% hit for a few weeks...

00:24:33.000 That's probably less important to a lot of Americans because it's going to come back than oil prices going below 60 for the first time in years.

00:24:41.000 We got a little test run in the first two months of the presidency, which was the egg prices, which were artificially inflated because of a bird flu.

00:24:50.000 And we were told it was because Trump's terrible.

00:24:52.000 And then when the chickens got caught up, the industry got caught up, now egg prices fell off a table.

00:24:59.000 Was there a single person in the media who apologized for freaking out about the egg prices?

00:25:02.000 Of course not.

00:25:03.000 But 12.01 p.m. on January 20th, one minute into my father's presidency, they were like, egg prices haven't come down yet, Alex.

00:25:11.000 Look at it.

00:25:13.000 It's like just getting into office actually can magically somehow undo four years of disastrous decisions, killing of millions of chickens unnecessarily.

00:25:23.000 I mean, it was all on purpose, but they expect the instant gratification.

00:25:28.000 Exactly. And that's exactly the message, that just to remind everyone, if you're insecure, if you're not thrilled about what's going on for whatever reason, and you think the media might be getting a foothold, remember the egg prices.

00:25:39.000 We had six weeks of nonstop.

00:25:40.000 He can't get the egg prices down. 0.91

00:25:42.000 He's a failure.

00:25:42.000 And then they plummeted.

00:25:44.000 They fell to the floor, and everything's fine.

00:25:46.000 So hold the line.

00:25:47.000 It's all good.

00:25:48.000 John, we also got some new data points after the 2024 election, showing some of the biggest shifts right.

00:25:54.000 We're actually in California among working class Latino men.

00:25:58.000 What do you think the significance of that and, you know, can that be sustained?

00:26:04.000 Well, the biggest gains that you saw were in places that weren't even really contested.

00:26:09.000 They were in these deep blue districts that are primarily Latino districts, places like L.A. County, the Inland Empire.

00:26:16.000 And those races ended up being so tight.

00:26:20.000 I assume that many of those seats will be targeted seats next time around.

00:26:24.000 And I think that obviously the wokeism upset a lot of these working-class Latinos, the same things that upset the working-class whites.

00:26:32.000 But I think that the COVID-19 shutdowns, everything that we experienced here under Gavin Newsom, where the schools were shut down, the economy was shut down.

00:26:43.000 at one point they were arresting people if they were out on the beach, because, of course, you know, that's what spreads COVID.

00:26:49.000 And there is residual anger that exists, particularly in those communities.

00:26:54.000 And then when you throw in crime and homelessness and everything on top of that, what you're what you're ending up with is a group of people who the Democrats took for granted for decades and decades and decades, who now are looking at someone like your dad and his message

00:27:10.000 is is connecting with them.

00:27:11.000 And I would add one thing, too, to the tariffs and the trade war that's going on right now that I think impacts that community.

00:27:29.000 It's also a national security issue.

00:27:31.000 Because as we saw during COVID, if you don't make anything, if you don't manufacture drugs, if you don't manufacture things that you might need in a crisis, you're dependent on people who may not be your friend to provide you with those goods and services.

00:27:46.000 And the next time the boys in Wuhan cook up another virus that gets us all in trouble, if we don't fix this trade imbalance, your drugs might be on the other side of the Great Wall. 0.94

00:27:56.000 Well, and they did that.

00:27:57.000 They did that with a lot of the PPE equipment.

00:27:59.000 You know, if we accuse them of doing what obviously they were doing and did, you know, I think everyone now realizes that, of course, you know, the COVID, you know, Wuhan flu started in the lab that studies the exact virus in question at ground zero of the outbreak. 0.59

00:28:13.000 I mean, it was always the most plausible, but that didn't matter.

00:28:16.000 But I think it's a really bad tactic to be entirely dependent on your enemies for all of the things that you need in a time of crisis.

00:28:24.000 Don, can I identify a pattern here that I'm seeing with some of President Trump's moves in the first couple months here?

00:28:29.000 Is that he's really looking down the field.

00:28:31.000 He's looking past the next election.

00:28:33.000 He's really looking, I think, at legacy building.

00:28:35.000 And so he sees these things that are not imminent threats to us, but are potentially threats, you know, one or two steps away.

00:28:41.000 So, like Taiwan.

00:28:43.000 Which is, we're dependent on them for microchips.

00:28:45.000 Okay, well, right now, that's fine.

00:28:47.000 There's no big deal.

00:28:48.000 We get along with Taiwan well.

00:28:49.000 China's not in a super strong position, so it doesn't look like they're invading Taiwan.

00:28:53.000 They're not going to do that while Trump's president anyway.

00:28:55.000 But we can't be dependent.

00:28:57.000 It's too close.

00:28:58.000 It's like we can't have a single point of failure.

00:28:59.000 Yeah, it's 68 miles from China.

00:29:00.000 I mean, we're 7,000 miles away.

00:29:02.000 So even with our best efforts, I mean, you know, even with a better military, even with a better whatever it may be, and that's not that easy to defend.

00:29:10.000 Exactly. OK, so and then how about Greenland?

00:29:13.000 So Greenland, so Russia's encroaching into Europe a little bit. 0.78

00:29:16.000 China's encroaching in the Arctic. 0.91

00:29:17.000 Do we think China's really going to, you know, militarize the Arctic and take it over completely right now?

00:29:21.000 No, probably not.

00:29:22.000 But they could soon in a few years, who knows, five years, ten years.

00:29:26.000 So let's go up there and let's go get the resources and let's put some bases in there and let's have a great strategic post.

00:29:31.000 And that sort of vision is what we like about him because he's not just focused on what's going to be on the top of CNN's homepage today.

00:29:39.000 And that's not the president.

00:29:41.000 CNN's homepage, CNBC's ticker at the top of their page.

00:29:43.000 That's not the president.

00:29:44.000 The president's someone who has a vision looking at this country over a hundred-year time horizon and thinking, how do we put America in the best position for the whole century?

00:29:51.000 And we've never had that.

00:29:53.000 We've only had people who have focused on getting on magazine coverage, etc.

00:29:57.000 And this is nice.

00:29:58.000 It's totally refreshing to me.

00:30:00.000 Well, for both of you, let's get into that a bit more.

00:30:02.000 There's this pivot into the Western Hemisphere.

00:30:06.000 What's the opportunity there?

00:30:10.000 Maybe we'll start with John, since I got both of you guys on.

00:30:16.000 I think what Alex said is essentially right.

00:30:20.000 The people who are going to benefit most from what your dad is doing right now are the people who haven't even been born yet.

00:30:26.000 Because we live in an extremely dangerous world.

00:30:29.000 And if all you're thinking about is the short term, what will benefit me politically?

00:30:34.000 What will help me win the next election?

00:30:37.000 What will help get...

00:30:38.000 The stock market as high as possible today, you allow many of these problems to fester, whether it is immigration, trade, any of those subjects that deal with what's going on here in the Western Hemisphere or beyond.

00:30:53.000 You know, those subjects have been neglected.

00:30:56.000 And they've been neglected by members of both parties.

00:30:58.000 And it's also, by the way, it foreshadows, I think, future fights that your dad's going to have with even Republicans in Congress, because many of them still look at the world in very short-term ways because they have an election coming up or they're worried about losing their committee chairmanship if they don't continue to keep control of whatever house they happen to be in.

00:31:20.000 And I think the fact that your dad has stood so firm and has not blinked and has not flinched, and at this point they should be aware of that, you know, is going to help him with these negotiations and help him to move Congress and to get them to fundamentally do things that they do not want to do,

00:31:38.000 which we have to do if we're going to be healthy in the long term.

00:31:42.000 What about you, Alex?

00:31:44.000 Yeah, yeah, I like it.

00:31:45.000 I think, first of all, when it comes to economics, I think that what The gambit Trump is making with our trade right now, it's all China-focused.

00:31:53.000 I think my unified field theory right now is everything he's doing is about China, and I could...

00:31:58.000 I'll walk you through that, but it would take a little while.

00:32:00.000 But I think he sees it as a win-win when it comes to China, which is either we decouple from them entirely or they're just a lot better to work with and we have more reinforcements and more assurances and guarantees. 0.99

00:32:12.000 But if decoupling is where it goes, then he's developing these relationships with Mexico, with people in Central and South America.

00:32:20.000 These countries really want to play ball with America, and you can see this wave of conservative Trumpian figures who are winning elections.

00:32:27.000 I think Mexico wants... 0.98

00:32:35.000 Manufacturing in the United States.

00:32:36.000 So I think that they're going to play very nicely because they want to manufacture for the United States.

00:32:41.000 They want to do that.

00:32:42.000 I think they want to make cars.

00:32:43.000 They want to make things down there.

00:32:44.000 And I think they're going to figure out a way to cooperate.

00:32:47.000 And that includes with immigration policy because that's one thing.

00:32:50.000 If they want to get back in the United States with lower tariffs or no tariffs, then they're going to have to help us not have caravans come up.

00:32:57.000 We should have seen the last caravan.

00:32:59.000 If we're on the track we're on now, if Trump holds the line, if we all hold the line, I think we might never see another caravan again come into the country.

00:33:06.000 It's amazing stuff.

00:33:07.000 So I do think that a lot of it is trying to insulate ourselves from, I think, you know, China in particular, but really the rest of the world. 0.95

00:33:16.000 And if we could have more dominance in North America, in this hemisphere, I think it could be really, really productive, again, for, as John said, for people not even born yet. 0.79

00:33:25.000 How do you stop China from sort of just, you know, shipping their stuff to Mexico and then they use USMCA to ship their, you know, they throw a sticker on it saying, eh, kind of made in Mexico, you know, over here.

00:33:36.000 Because, you know, the one thing you do have to stop is sort of the bad actors from, you know, playing those kinds of games.

00:33:41.000 Secondary tariff.

00:33:42.000 It's the tariff bank shot. 0.79

00:33:43.000 I talked to the president about this when I got to see him a few weeks ago, and he was talking about this exact thing.

00:33:48.000 He was talking about how you actually have to tariff certain things because, not because of where they're coming from, but from where they originated to begin.

00:33:55.000 So this is where it's really kind of fun and wonky, and we go through this a lot at brightboard.com.

00:34:00.000 We have a guy, John Carney, who's just, I think he's the best at understanding the magnomics and the tariffs of anyone.

00:34:06.000 And he explains all this stuff to me, and it's really a delight to hear about it because it shows you there is a lot of nuance and sophistication because it's not one blanket tariff policy.

00:34:14.000 There's going to be probably hundreds, if not thousands, of various policies around the world because so many things need to be tariffed in different ways.

00:34:20.000 So there's a solution to everything.

00:34:23.000 So, you know, both of you guys run media operations where you're mostly, you know, the counterweight to traditional, you know, DC talking points.

00:34:31.000 You know, how does Breitbart, how does talk radio continue to break through that noise, John?

00:34:37.000 Well, we are the alternate media.

00:34:39.000 We always have been the alternate media.

00:34:41.000 And the mainstream media...

00:34:43.000 I worked at CNN at one point in the past, so I'm very familiar with it.

00:34:47.000 I'm so sorry.

00:34:48.000 There is a level of groupthink that they have that they just can't get out of that bubble.

00:34:56.000 And they don't understand why they lost the last election.

00:34:59.000 They still don't.

00:35:00.000 I mean, you look at them, you look at these programs, you look at The View or MSNBC or any of those channels or programs, and they act like they won the election.

00:35:10.000 And they act like the voters signed up for the platform that Kamala ran on, and we have this occupying force that just took over the country and is taking us in all these directions that no one signed up for.

00:35:21.000 Well, did you pay attention to any of his rallies?

00:35:24.000 Did you get the papers?

00:35:26.000 I mean, he's doing everything that he ran on.

00:35:29.000 There are no curveballs here.

00:35:31.000 He's throwing fastball after fastball right over the plate.

00:35:35.000 Every single day.

00:35:36.000 No one should be surprised at anything going on right now.

00:35:39.000 But you look at the mainstream media and it's like they're living in a completely alternate reality.

00:35:45.000 So for people like us at Breitbart or in talk radio or on the internet or doing what you do with this program, we are kind of the sunlight, the reality.

00:35:58.000 That gets shown in.

00:35:59.000 No, that says, no, this is exactly what America signed up for.

00:36:03.000 And you look at Donald Trump's popularity and you look at the popularity of the Democrats and there's no comparison.

00:36:09.000 But you wouldn't step away with that idea of watching mainstream media.

00:36:13.000 Yeah, this is such a great conversation and something that, you know, I'm a really.

00:36:18.000 I'm lucky because I've been a part of this history since I was the first employee of Andrew Breitbart.

00:36:22.000 But the conversation has just moved in completely different formats than newspapers and cable news.

00:36:28.000 I mean, Fox is very strong right now.

00:36:29.000 Newsmax is doing well.

00:36:30.000 But it really is these podcasts.

00:36:33.000 Rumble does an amazing job on podcasting.

00:36:35.000 I'm on Rumble Talk Radio still.

00:36:37.000 And Alternative Media and the X platform, where a lot of the main conversation is taking place on a platform that's owned by...

00:36:44.000 President Trump's right-hand guy, Elon Musk.

00:36:46.000 So there's so much going on where the conversation can – it can gestate.

00:36:52.000 People can develop ideas.

00:36:53.000 People can debate ideas.

00:36:54.000 And you do not need the filter of anyone in the establishment media.

00:36:57.000 And a lot of people in the establishment media seem to be getting it.

00:37:00.000 You see Jeff Bezos basically coming out against his own – The Washington Post, the LA Times, which is just an absolute, not worthy of birdcage lining, but still the guy runs it there.

00:37:13.000 He's trying to make some...

00:37:16.000 They understand the writings on the wall.

00:37:18.000 The establishment media is dying, if not already dead.

00:37:21.000 And the conversation is elsewhere.

00:37:22.000 One of the reasons why Donald Trump won is because he had that brilliant podcasting strategy at the very end where he went on all these shows and spoke to all these people who not only had never been spoken to, but you could not speak to them.

00:37:33.000 Kamala Harris could not do a three-hour podcast where she holds court on all sorts of topics. 1.00

00:37:38.000 President Trump lives for that.

00:37:39.000 He literally would rather tell you stories when you spend time with him about...

00:37:44.000 Real estate conquests and negotiations with other famous people where he got the upper hand.

00:37:49.000 He loves that stuff.

00:37:50.000 He loves, and people love hearing about it.

00:37:52.000 It's a huge advantage for him and for our movement, which is much more depth of thought.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, and now that you have, you know, X, at least allowing for free speech, you know, true social, you know, even to your point, some of the other guys, you know, Patrick Suncheon over at, you know, the LA Times just being like, well, we're not going to just blindly endorse Kamala Harris anymore.

00:38:10.000 You know, I know that's not easy.

00:38:12.000 But now that our ideas actually have a chance to get out in the ether and they're not just censored, suppressed, smothered entirely while just sort of pushing the narrative, all of a sudden we have a chance at actually winning these arguments because other people actually see the other side for the first time ever.

00:38:31.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:38:32.000 And this is one thing that is all of the Democrats should be challenged to do these long interviews because they can't.

00:38:39.000 And all the...

00:38:40.000 Top conservatives can.

00:38:41.000 You can do them.

00:38:42.000 JD, of course, can do them.

00:38:44.000 President Trump can do them.

00:38:45.000 I mean, virtually the entire cabinet.

00:38:47.000 I mean, you saw Scott Besson was on Tucker's show.

00:38:49.000 He just goes for two hours.

00:38:51.000 They can't do this stuff because their arguments are paper thin, and they're all political, and they're about short-term political gains.

00:38:59.000 And this is one thing where they've gotten away with it for so long, because they're so organized.

00:39:04.000 Their community organizing is so good.

00:39:05.000 They're so well-funded by the George Soros's of the world, the Lorene Powell Jobs's of the world, that they could basically just bully you into submission with raw organizing power.

00:39:14.000 And now we're...

00:39:16.000 Busting that open, too.

00:39:17.000 I mean, think about the Stacey Abrams NGO that was getting $2 billion from the government. 1.00

00:39:21.000 And that's ending.

00:39:23.000 That's going away.

00:39:23.000 And that is going to completely devastate their organizational infrastructure.

00:39:27.000 Again, it helps us.

00:39:29.000 Well, John, I've got one thing to that.

00:39:31.000 And that is, all of these Democrats who are trying to copy your dad are doing it all wrong.

00:39:37.000 When he went on those podcasts...

00:39:39.000 He went on the successful podcast that had their own social network, and he took his message to a social network that may not be a social network that was really paying attention to him in any sort of close way.

00:39:52.000 He did it with Rogan, did it with Undertaker, did it with all of those.

00:39:55.000 And he was the same guy.

00:39:57.000 It was the same guy at the rallies, same guy that you see at the White House, same guy that you see anywhere and everywhere he shows up.

00:40:05.000 He was authentically himself.

00:40:07.000 In all of these forums.

00:40:09.000 You mean he didn't change his accent depending on who he was talking to to try to sound more like the base of listener?

00:40:14.000 Oh, but look at Gavin Newsom and look at how he's doing it.

00:40:18.000 Instead of going on other podcasts where they're the ones asking the questions, he figures if I start my own podcasts, then people will pay attention to me the same way they paid attention to Trump.

00:40:29.000 So he does one with Marshawn Lynch and he goes out there with this like Amos and Andy Droll because I guess that's supposed to speak to an urban audience.

00:40:37.000 And it's like –

00:40:41.000 I mean, it could be regarded as offensive, maybe.

00:40:45.000 If I did it, that would be called cultural appropriation.

00:40:49.000 I don't know.

00:40:50.000 I think that's a good get.

00:40:51.000 I think, Don, I think you've got to get Marshawn for yourself.

00:40:54.000 I was at Berkeley when he was on the Bears, and I've got to tell you, those were good days.

00:40:58.000 Those were good days.

00:40:58.000 A guy could really run the football.

00:41:00.000 Well, John, you were actually one of the first ever pro-Trump contributors hired by CNN.

00:41:05.000 You alluded to that earlier.

00:41:07.000 You were kind of the original Scott Jennings, who seems to be going out there and committing homicide almost on a daily basis.

00:41:13.000 I'm actually shocked they still let him go on the air, because it's him versus four or five people half the time, and he's just murdering them, and they allow it to continue.

00:41:25.000 How do you reflect on that?

00:41:29.000 Cable news changed between then and now.

00:41:32.000 Yeah, he is the blonde girl on the Munsters over there, but he's doing a great job.

00:41:36.000 And every day, it's just he's racking up the W's.

00:41:41.000 It's an interesting role to play where you know you're the heel, where you know that you're there to give an unpopular position in a shop where the gravitational pull certainly goes the other way.

00:41:53.000 And part of what you see when you have a dynamic like that is you have people who start out with really, you know, the right ideas, and then they get sucked into these shops where you get rewarded if you go the other way.

00:42:08.000 So you had a lot of people who work at CNN or MSNBC who started out at Fox and you saw them and you go, okay, that's a reasonable person.

00:42:15.000 That's a person with their head screwed on straight.

00:42:17.000 And then they go over there and they sound like these Lincoln Project people all of a sudden.

00:42:22.000 And you go, okay, what happened to this person?

00:42:25.000 What happened to them?

00:42:27.000 And the answer is you get rewarded in those shops when you go ahead and do that.

00:42:32.000 For someone like Scott Jennings to just dig in his heels and to just hit them with facts day after day after day after day, I can only imagine how icy those green rooms are and how much they must hate his guts.

00:42:46.000 I hope he's got a food tester in the cafeteria.

00:42:49.000 I hope they're filming all of that because one day they should air it.

00:42:52.000 And I imagine the ratings would actually go through the roof for them, although it probably wouldn't be their traditional base of viewership.

00:42:59.000 No, the ratings won't go up.

00:43:01.000 And this is why I'm loving this so much.

00:43:02.000 And I really admire what Scott Jennings is doing.

00:43:04.000 He really takes the persona that I try to take whenever I get invited to hostile media is just politely explain our positions, ask them to defend their positions.

00:43:12.000 You'll have to yell at them.

00:43:13.000 I think it's...

00:43:14.000 Perfect. He's perfectly media coach.

00:43:15.000 He knows exactly what he's doing and he's doing a great job.

00:43:17.000 But the most delicious part about this for me is that the ratings are still bad.

00:43:22.000 So all of us, we just wait for the clips online of Scott Jennings demolishing people.

00:43:26.000 And then we get to see the clips and we have a great time watching them.

00:43:30.000 But CNN is not really making any money off of it, which is really great because no one's tuning into Abby Phillips' show, which is too late and no one cares.

00:43:37.000 We just wait for the three-minute viral Scott Jennings clip.

00:43:40.000 And so it's just a perfect world for us because we get all of the glory without CNN actually doing well.

00:43:47.000 That's definitely a win-win.

00:43:49.000 I've got to ask you guys both, since you're both such California experts, what's going on with the fire cleanup and the insurance crisis there?

00:43:58.000 Have elected leaders learned anything?

00:44:00.000 I mean, it seems like the story has just gone by the wayside, and yet people are told they can't build back what they had.

00:44:07.000 I don't hear of any actual progress.

00:44:10.000 Have those leaders learned anything?

00:44:12.000 What about the voters?

00:44:14.000 It's moving very slowly.

00:44:16.000 You know, when your dad was in town, everything was going to move lickety-split.

00:44:20.000 We're going to move heaven and earth, and we're going to get this thing rebuilt right away.

00:44:24.000 And then right after he leaves, oh, it's going to take about five years.

00:44:28.000 That's what the mayor said.

00:44:30.000 And she has not had a good news cycle since these fires started.

00:44:34.000 It's just been scandal after scandal, gaffe after gaffe.

00:44:38.000 And she is so radioactive right now.

00:44:43.000 Even people like Gavin Newsom don't want to be photographed with her.

00:44:46.000 When he comes down and he talks about the fires, you usually see him in Altadena because that's not in the city of L.A. and he's not going to be photographed with her.

00:44:54.000 We have a lot of problems.

00:44:56.000 You mentioned insurance.

00:44:58.000 Right now, the state of California has an insurance crisis where Allstate and State Farm have moved out of the market.

00:45:05.000 I'm represented by Allstate.

00:45:07.000 I tried to increase my umbrella.

00:45:09.000 I couldn't do it because they said if you live in California, We're not expanding any of our footprint in that market at all.

00:45:17.000 Newsom has no plan on what to do about it.

00:45:19.000 He punted the insurance commissioner.

00:45:21.000 The state legislature did the same thing.

00:45:24.000 And these people right now are failing in a very public way.

00:45:29.000 And it'll be interesting to see how Gavin Newsom tries to get around this when he runs for president.

00:45:35.000 My guess is what they're going to do is they're going to place all of the blame on the mayor of L.A. and potentially the insurance commissioner for screwing that up because there's no good look for any of them out of this.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, I mean, they can try to do that, but I mean...

00:45:51.000 He's still the governor of the state.

00:45:52.000 I mean, he's the guy that's going to ultimately control the purse strings for how these things happen and or the consequences of inaction.

00:45:59.000 How does he escape from that?

00:46:02.000 Well, he says he's the mayor.

00:46:04.000 He blames the mayor.

00:46:06.000 What do you think, Alex?

00:46:08.000 Yeah, he can't, and he absolutely can't, because there was no preparedness that was done, because we spent so much time on trout runs and the Delta smell.

00:46:17.000 Don, I think we talked about this last time we were on together, is that your dad was totally right about this, that we really did ruin everything for the Delta smell. 0.91

00:46:22.000 In 2018, he was right about this.

00:46:24.000 He's like, hey guys, this is going to get worse.

00:46:26.000 This was a little bit more of a remote fire.

00:46:28.000 It did a lot of damage, but the same, you know, tinder exists in these much more residential areas, and if and when that happens and you're not prepared.

00:46:37.000 You're going to have a problem.

00:46:38.000 Six years later, Trump was right about everything as usual.

00:46:43.000 Yeah, so there's so much that can be done on this, but this latest report, an economic recovery report that we covered at Breitbart, shows that we're basically on track for recovery by 2029.

00:46:55.000 So we're talking four years, and so this is a huge opportunity if...

00:47:00.000 Rick Grinnell and Lee Zeldin and the people from Trump's team who are tasked with this, if they do a good job and can accelerate this a little bit, it could be a really big win for Republicans and President Trump long term.

00:47:12.000 But it's very tough when you've got such an intransigent government that's not used to doing anything productive.

00:47:18.000 There's one lawsuit suggesting that the fire or at least a secondary blaze that hurt in the Palisades was from power lines.

00:47:25.000 So it was from infrastructure that should have been rebuilt with all that money that Joe Biden had and all the money in the California surplus.

00:47:31.000 And we didn't do anything with it.

00:47:33.000 And so we just wasted it on a bunch of DEI and woke stuff, a bunch of trans sports stuff that Gavin Newsom was really into until he started podcasting and then says he doesn't like it anymore.

00:47:43.000 So it's and there's a lot of.

00:47:45.000 It's tough with the insurance because why, if you're an insurance company, would you want to insure people in a state like this when it is basically a desert, it's a tinderbox, and the government doesn't maintain stuff in a way that protects them?

00:47:59.000 So it really is a catch-22, and there needs to be so much done, but an overhaul in leadership is step one, which is why you're seeing people.

00:48:11.000 Now, can we keep them as permanent Republicans and conservatives?

00:48:14.000 That's on us to convince them.

00:48:16.000 But you're seeing huge demographic shifts specifically because the incompetence is it's everywhere you look in the city.

00:48:22.000 So obviously you see that shift with Latino voters, men, African-American men.

00:48:29.000 Can you get the rest of the populace to finally understand just how badly their leaders have failed them?

00:48:36.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:48:37.000 I think that – but you have to reinforce it.

00:48:40.000 You have to make the points, and that's where it's so – it's great that new media is ascendant because – You know that when Gavin Newsom does a podcast and he sounds pretty good, you know what he's saying is not true, but it is then on us to break it down and say, okay, well, here's why it's not true.

00:48:55.000 So he says that he's opposed to men playing women's sports, but he actually signed a bill suggesting that schools get punished and they lose funding if they don't allow men to play women's sports.

00:49:06.000 And he was one of the first states to have such a bill.

00:49:09.000 But you have to have us, we have to do the legwork and keep doing that, and then we have to relentlessly tell our friends.

00:49:16.000 I recommend shows like this one, recommend shows like my show or John's show to people so that people get those arguments and that we're speaking to people in our respective audiences, but then it's on our audiences to go out and take those messages to voters who are gettable now, who might be reconsidering things because of the nature of how Democrats have let them down over the previous years.

00:49:37.000 Yeah, it'd be nice if there was this overarching profession that, I don't know, reported on these kinds of things.

00:49:43.000 No, I mean, it's left to us.

00:49:46.000 That's why I always tell everyone, like, share, subscribe, get it out there, because there are people having these conversations, but there's a trillion-dollar mainstream media complex that's just going to sweep it under the rug, or they're going to do whatever they can to lie, cheat, distort the truth so that you don't have that change to people.

00:50:03.000 You know, who even while affected still may not be paying attention to politics because they're trying to rebuild a home.

00:50:08.000 You know, they may not be as in the weeds.

00:50:10.000 Yeah, they don't have the time to do it, but that's why the Scott Jennings stuff is so great because he's like, he's basically functioning as an ombudsman.

00:50:16.000 Where these papers used to have an editor who would look at the mistakes the paper would make, then would write about the mistakes.

00:50:23.000 That's what Scott Jennings is doing.

00:50:24.000 He's just sitting there saying, no, this is the mistake you're making.

00:50:26.000 And before, it would just go and hopefully we'd catch it at Breitbart or someone who talked radio would catch it.

00:50:32.000 But now you've got a guy just sitting there who's just policing them and saying, no, no, that was wrong.

00:50:36.000 This is what's happening.

00:50:37.000 And that's why it works.

00:50:38.000 It's very entertaining, but it's also very productive for all of us.

00:50:43.000 You're reminded of it everywhere you go.

00:50:45.000 I mean, when I tried to buy more insurance, oh no, we don't do that in California.

00:50:49.000 Or in Arizona, you could do it.

00:50:51.000 Not in California.

00:50:52.000 You get off the freeway, what's the first thing you see?

00:50:54.000 You see a homeless encampment.

00:50:55.000 You try to buy some shampoo, it's behind bulletproof glass, and you need the assistance of an associate.

00:51:01.000 You go rent a car in Oakland, and they give you a list of places you can't go because the odds of you getting the car broken into are so high, they won't insure you if you go to those certain establishments or there's certain neighborhoods.

00:51:15.000 Then you go, okay, even if you don't read the paper, Even if you're just completely unaware of what's going on in the world around you, you know this place doesn't function.

00:51:25.000 So it feels like despite all of that, in Washington, D.C., the Democrat California delegation still holds a massive amount of power.

00:51:37.000 Again, despite failure, despite seemingly a collapsing economy, despite no results, where does that come from?

00:51:43.000 You know, what's the inside baseball on how, you know, the San Francisco machine maintains that kind of power and hegemony in the swamp?

00:51:55.000 Yeah, I mean, in San Francisco, there was a political machine that ended up being very successful.

00:52:01.000 And San Francisco is a tiny little city.

00:52:04.000 You know, even in California, San Diego is bigger, San Jose is bigger.

00:52:08.000 But that's the political epicenter of the state.

00:52:11.000 And there was a guy by the name of Phil Burton, who was actually really the leader of that machine.

00:52:17.000 And he was the guy who was going to be the Speaker of the House, and he was the guy that was going to have all of this power.

00:52:23.000 He ended up dying a very young man and never achieved that power.

00:52:28.000 But the machine stayed in place.

00:52:30.000 And his wife was the one that on her deathbed, she replaced him when he died.

00:52:35.000 And then she died almost immediately after that.

00:52:38.000 And on her deathbed, she was the one that bequeathed the seat to Nancy Pelosi.

00:52:42.000 Who was her best friend.

00:52:44.000 And all of these people whose names that we're familiar with, whether it's Nancy Pelosi, Willie Brown, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, they all come from the same machine that produced these people and produced this extremely successful operation of accumulating and distributing power.

00:53:02.000 And they took over the state of California.

00:53:04.000 And then after that, they took over essentially the National Democratic Party.

00:53:09.000 And none of that has changed yet.

00:53:12.000 And so even though the rest of the country looks at San Francisco and looks at California and they say, oh my God, you know, that's a state that's going to fall into the ocean if they don't figure out a way to fix it, because they're so good at this Machiavellian game of power, they're still in charge.

00:53:28.000 And I don't see that changing anytime soon.

00:53:30.000 Alex? Yeah, I think that's a really good summary.

00:53:33.000 And it is, the one thing I would add is...

00:53:35.000 Victory begets victory.

00:53:37.000 And I think this is something that we can emulate on the right, that they do very well, is that this San Francisco Mafia, which, you know, Willie Brown was sort of the main fixture in it because he had the longevity.

00:53:49.000 Recall, he was the guy who was dating Kamala Harris when she was 29 and he was 60 years old.

00:53:54.000 And he bought her a BMW 7 Series and all this stuff.

00:53:57.000 And he kind of anointed her.

00:53:59.000 And this is the same group of people that...

00:54:02.000 Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi and Gavin Newsom, they all came through there.

00:54:07.000 They all came through this sort of San Francisco slash East Bay enclave where all these liberal people were groomed and trained.

00:54:16.000 And they kept winning, and that is contagious.

00:54:19.000 Like, victories are contagious, and this is inspiring other people because with the left, their number one priority is not governing well.

00:54:25.000 It's political victory.

00:54:26.000 And we could use a little taste of that because we see all this stuff sometimes on the right.

00:54:30.000 Like, we get a victory, and then for whatever reason, we'll stand on ceremony.

00:54:33.000 We'll have some principle that will...

00:54:35.000 Stand in the way of us getting another one.

00:54:37.000 And so we need to ride the momentum.

00:54:38.000 They've understood momentum, that it's not a fake thing.

00:54:42.000 It's a real thing.

00:54:42.000 And just like a sporting event, you've got to understand that momentum matters.

00:54:46.000 And so that's why we need to run up the score when we're doing well.

00:54:50.000 And the left has been much better at that over the years than we have.

00:54:53.000 So, you know, speaking of victories, and I guess looking ahead, what do you guys see as the biggest fight conservative media needs to win?

00:54:59.000 In the information war leading up to the next election cycle, I mean, I think that's going to be everything, really.

00:55:04.000 What happens in Congress if they take over the House?

00:55:09.000 We'll get two more years of endless investigations and nonsense, and it's just a stall tactic, but it'll still be effective.

00:55:16.000 For me, the number one thing is tech.

00:55:20.000 So there's a couple of big problems here.

00:55:22.000 First of all...

00:55:23.000 The Google search engine feeds people left-wing BS.

00:55:27.000 It's constant.

00:55:28.000 It is incredibly biased against President Trump and his agenda and his supporters.

00:55:33.000 That was never fixed.

00:55:34.000 And so what I'm concerned about is we're now in this AI arms race where people are going to be reliant on AI for research, they're going to be reliant on AI for their information, that when people have questions that are going to Google, they're going to be going to their favorite AI search engine.

00:55:49.000 And what's going to end up happening is that all of the left-wing media The crap is going to be what is populating the AI. 0.98

00:55:56.000 Garbage in, garbage out, as the expression goes. 0.94

00:55:58.000 And so I'm concerned that over the next few years, as AI becomes normalized and people start using AI to answer more of their queries in life, that they're going to be just getting that same left-wing media that we are beating currently. 0.54

00:56:16.000 The AI is only sucking in the left-wing media into their algorithm, then we're going to have big problems.

00:56:22.000 And we do not have a plan on this yet.

00:56:25.000 And that's what I'm concerned about over that sort of four-year horizon.

00:56:28.000 What about you, John?

00:56:30.000 I think it's great that a lot of these billionaire newspaper owners are trying to move their paper in a different direction.

00:56:36.000 I don't think that's going to be possible unless they essentially lay off everyone in their shop.

00:56:41.000 And replace them with new people.

00:56:44.000 That's just the reality of it.

00:56:46.000 And they'll lose their whole audience, too.

00:56:48.000 Yes, they will.

00:56:48.000 You have to start over entirely, not just with that, but with your readership.

00:56:52.000 That's not the easiest thing in the world.

00:56:53.000 Pretty much.

00:56:54.000 But I think that Elon buying X and allowing that to really be an open town square was probably, outside of maybe the podcasts, the most important media story.

00:57:08.000 for the last election because information that would have been suppressed, like the Hunter Biden laptop, and it was successfully suppressed the last time around, could not be hidden this time.

00:57:19.000 We had access to information that would have been denied to us in the cycle before that, or the cycle before that, or the cycle before that.

00:57:29.000 The toothpaste is out of the tube.

00:57:32.000 And as long as that stays firm, as long as he's in charge of that platform, and he keeps it as an open platform where people can share information, I don't see how the left-wing narratives can overcome the truth.

00:57:46.000 I think the truth is going to get out there, and as long as people have access to the truth, that's going to make it real hard for them to win elections.

00:57:54.000 Well, Alex, John, thank you guys so much.

00:57:56.000 Very much.

00:57:57.000 Appreciate your insight on all of this and definitely look forward to having you back on the show sometime soon.

00:58:02.000 Thanks for having us.

00:58:03.000 Thanks as always, Don.

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