Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich joins me on the show to talk about his new book, March to the Majority, and why he thinks Joe Biden should be charged with a crime. We also talk about the latest mass shooting in North Dakota and why the FBI should have been more concerned about a Syrian refugee who was stopped by a brave police officer in a mass shooting attempt. And we talk about why our political institutions have become so corrupted and inept, and how we need to fix them. And we take a behind-the-scenes look at the Republican Revolution in 1995, starting with the Speaker's contract with America, and the early days of Newt's tenure as Speaker, and some advice he gave me on how to start my political career. And, of course, we talk a lot of other stuff too! Subscribe to Triggered to get notified when we deconstruct the latest trending topics in politics, pop culture, and pop culture. Subscribe today using our podcast s RSS, iTunes, and Stitcher to stay up to date on all things political and keep up with the latest happenings in American politics! Thanks for listening and share the podcast with your fellow patriots! Timestamps: 1:00 - What's your favorite conspiracy theory? 2:30 - What s going on with Joe Biden? 3:20 - Is Joe Biden a crook? 4:00 5:15 - Is the FBI out of touch? 6:40 - Why the FBI incompetent? 7:10 - What would you do if Joe Biden is a crooner? 8:30 9: What's going to happen next? 11:15 13:00 | What do you think the FBI can do about it? 15: What are you worried about? 16:30 | What s the best thing? 17:40 | What's the worst thing you're going to do with this guy? 18:40 19:20 22:15 | How do you know about me? 21:00 -- What do I know about this? 26:30 -- Why I m going to win in 2020? 27: What could I do? 29:40 -- What s your biggest takeaway from this episode? 31: What s my biggest takeaway? 32:00 // 33:00 Is this guy better than this story? 35:10 36:20 -- Why you should be worried about the FBI?
00:06:18.000Fought for America and a lot of the America First policies that we're putting on.
00:06:23.000Some interesting history with him and some advice that he gave me that helped sort of perhaps launch a little bit of my political side.
00:06:32.000And we have a behind-the-scenes look at the Republican Revolution in 1995 that started with the Speaker's contract with America.
00:06:43.000Again, a lot of the similarities that we see perhaps with now the sort of MAGA, America First movement.
00:06:51.000Newt recently made some major news with comments that the indictment of my father, yet another one, guys, because, you know, Tuesday's Indictment Day, My father last week by Fulton County District Attorney Fannis Willis came on orders from D.C. So we're going to ask a little bit more about that because naturally we've seen this, right? Every time there's news about Hunter or the thing with Weiss, and not that I think anything's going to happen from it because I think these outcomes for the Democrats are very well pre-baked, despite what the media will tell you.
00:07:24.000It'd be interesting to hear, because yet another time that Hunter or Joe gets caught in trouble, immediately there's a Trump indictment that follows.
00:07:33.000For those of you who haven't noticed the pattern four times, it's time to wake up.
00:07:40.000I'm gonna get into some of the big stories that everyone's talking about, but first, there's something that isn't getting much, if any, attention.
00:07:50.000And you wonder why. A Syrian refugee attempted a mass shooting in Fargo, North Dakota a few weeks ago and was stopped by a brave police officer and first responder last month.
00:08:07.000You'd think a story like that would be everywhere.
00:08:09.000But it doesn't go along with the liberal press's preferred narrative.
00:11:00.000Much like the lies that we were told about the Afghan refugees that were brought here, unvetted, A year and a half ago.
00:11:07.000And of course, as always, the FBI was tipped off about the shooter.
00:11:13.000Watch this clip laying it all out so you understand just how corrupted and inept these institutions have become.
00:11:23.000And tonight we find out someone was so concerned about the shooting suspect two years ago, they called the FBI. So as with all terrorists, it seems these days, I guess if you check off a couple of boxes, the FBI can't do anything, they can know about you.
00:11:50.000They can be watching, but they're not going to do anything because they're too busy focusing on indicting Joe Biden's and the Democrats' political enemies.
00:12:04.000Looking to see if perhaps your grandmother was somewhere within a thousand miles of Washington D.C. on January 6th rather than trying to stop actual terrorists.
00:12:18.000Fortunately, these abuses of our legal system My father continues to dominate the Republican primary field because of it.
00:12:30.000They're trying desperately to prevent him from winning because they understand what he will do to their broken, inept, and corrupted systems.
00:12:39.000The latest national CBS polling of Republican voters shows that 62% We're good to go.
00:12:56.000So why would someone with that big a lead be expected to debate?
00:13:00.000Ron DeSantis is polling at about the same level as RFK Jr.
00:13:24.000Why would anyone name a political strategist in the world that would give a nobody, a nothing, polling at 1% or less than 1% like half of the Republican field, three hours of unfettered access to try to lay a whopper on after working with their consultants and other people?
00:13:43.000Giving them a hit. Why on earth would anyone do that?
00:13:46.000And more importantly than winning the primary is obviously winning the White House.
00:13:51.000And despite the indictments, despite the ongoing attacks, despite the Democrats doing everything they accused Russia of doing, my father's polling better than he was in either 2016 or 2020.
00:14:18.000That's well within the margin of error, but take away one thing from this and one thing only if you take away only one thing.
00:14:25.000And that is, I think there are a lot of Democrats who simply can't believe that Donald Trump can be elected president again.
00:14:30.000The polling indicates that Trump is in fact in a stronger position at this point than he was during the entire 2020 campaign.
00:14:38.000According to the national polls, if we had state-level polling, I wouldn't even be surprised if Trump were ahead in the swing states that are most important, Jim.
00:14:44.000Right, and when the race is that close, it comes down to the Electoral College, and who knows what happens with that.
00:14:50.000We don't even have those kinds of numbers just yet, but from a national standpoint, you're absolutely right.
00:14:54.000It is remarkable where Trump stands right now when it comes to the rest of this field, and with general election voters.
00:15:00.000Harry Yenzen, as always, thank you very much.
00:15:03.000We appreciate it. Be sure to check out Harry's podcast, Margins of Error.
00:15:06.000You can find it on your favorite podcast.
00:15:09.000Well folks, Jim Acosta must have hated having to say that Biden is in trouble of losing next year.
00:15:19.000The economy has been a disaster between interest rates, inflation, like literally across the board.
00:15:26.000There's not a metric where he's doing well.
00:15:29.000But the recent tragedy in Maui and Hawaii shows why Joe Biden and, frankly, the Democrat agenda and our ideas are unfit for office or for public service.
00:15:41.000After over a hundred people died due to a historic wildfire on Maui and many more are missing, Biden's initial response was, quote, no comment.
00:15:53.000Hawaii has long been a Democrat stronghold and it was a liberal Democrat leadership that made this fire so bad.
00:16:01.000The Hawaii wildfire is the most lethal wildfire in over 100 years and it destroyed more than 2,000 structures.
00:16:10.000The fire was able to rage for so long because the official in charge of releasing water Waited for more than five hours to act.
00:16:26.000This official, Kaleo Manuel, is a former Obama Foundation leader who said that water is sacred and that access to water should be based on conversations about equity.
00:16:52.000What is it with Democrats and their focus on equity, especially during natural disasters?
00:16:57.000Remember when Kamala Harris said that hurricane response should be based on equity?
00:17:02.000Remember that one? In case you're unsure what equity means, it's when Democrats feel good about themselves, even when they screw up in the worst possible ways imaginable.
00:17:14.000Did Biden think he didn't have to care about Hawaii because their vote is a sure thing for Democrats?
00:17:22.000That could be the case. I mean, seems sort of like Joe Biden.
00:17:25.000I mean, he's been on vacation for 40% of his presidency, and you think he took a couple hours to maybe go look there, or he's doing that for a couple hours, and then going right back to his never-ending vacation.
00:17:35.000But how long will Hawaii vote for Democrats after this disaster?
00:17:40.000Frankly, how long will any other state vote for Democrats when they see that these are the responses for when their homes are burning and lives are being lost?
00:17:51.000And Maui residents are furious with Joe Biden, as they should be.
00:17:54.000Check out this clip....quicker than they got to their own state.
00:17:58.000The first that any of you guys heard from President Biden was after the rest of the mainland knew that the fires were going on, that there was this chaos, this tumult, this tremendous loss of life.
00:18:07.000What do you say when the President of the United States says no comment and then goes bicycling?
00:18:13.000What he's not doing, actually, for the citizens of this country, for the citizens of Maui and Lahaina, it's completely disrespectful.
00:18:21.000And now he's going to be coming here tomorrow, and all of a sudden it's going to clog up the roads.
00:18:25.000They're not going to let anybody through.
00:18:27.000It's going to slow everything down just so he can come in and take a look and do nothing yet again.
00:18:32.000So it's ridiculous. It's nonsense, and f**k it.
00:18:34.000Let me just say straight to you, President Biden, I pray for your soul.
00:18:38.000Just repent. From your posturing and your lack of integrity and your lack of compassion.
00:18:47.000When you're the president of the United States of America, you have to know what's going on.
00:18:53.000You know, you got all these people that surround, you know, supposed to be advising you what's going on.
00:18:58.000For you to say something like, no comment.
00:19:00.000I don't know, I can't even respond to such comment.
00:19:02.000We have the largest marine base in the world, the largest Navy fleet right there.
00:19:09.000Do you think that if he wanted to, the President of the United States or one of his chiefs of staff could have ordered military assistance from Pearl Harbor and the U.S. Pacific Fleet?
00:19:17.000There's no question they could have done that.
00:19:18.000They did it for Ukraine. Way quicker than the response here in Hawaii.
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00:22:52.000Imagine a MAGA, Trump-wearing, red hat...
00:22:57.000Even if it was some radical extremist, whatever, you see it.
00:23:01.000When these shootings happen, you could see them praying to whatever god they're praying to, probably Anthony Fauci or Zelensky, but the Democrats, they're just hoping that it's a guy in a MAGA hat.
00:23:12.000If it's not, it disappears within instant.
00:23:15.000We saw that with the trans shooter and the school shooting.
00:23:45.000There were two or three things they could have done.
00:23:48.000There are now reports there may be over a thousand dead by the time they go through all the buildings where people were literally burned to death.
00:23:56.000It's one of the worst disasters in modern America.
00:24:00.000Again, a lot of it's because of the attitude of the left who refused to do practical, common sense things that would have dramatically reduced the risk of that fire.
00:24:12.000So I was glad to see you cover that also.
00:24:15.000Yeah, I mean, think about that. I mean, he waited five hours watching this go on because of equity?
00:24:23.000I mean, isn't the environmental reason of using the water to stop the fire from burning the environment and everything else and putting caustic fumes into the air?
00:24:30.000I mean, you know, and of course, it's a former Obama guy and whatever, so nothing will happen.
00:24:37.000He will be given awards as though he was a great champion Of one of the greatest, perhaps, natural disasters in recent American history.
00:24:48.000And it should tell us everything we need to know about just the insanity of what's going on, what we're being told, and what we're being lied to about.
00:24:58.000The thing I'm struck with with the Biden administration is that they have the wrong ideology and they're incompetent.
00:25:06.000So they're trying to do the wrong things, and they're trying to do them badly.
00:25:09.000And that's a very consistent pattern, whether you're looking at the withdrawal from Afghanistan, the failure to control the border, the scale of drug addiction and suicide, the school systems that don't educate.
00:25:26.000I mean, over and over again, what you're seeing is people who both have the wrong ideas and, as a result, are increasingly incompetent.
00:26:04.000Yeah, but they keep voting for the same leadership and continue to fail.
00:26:08.000I remember the big story, like, well, maybe two weeks ago, you know, LeBron James funded a school to make difference and make a change.
00:26:15.000And same thing, not one kid was proficient in reading or could even pass the state's test, which I imagine, again, is set up by bureaucrats keeping a rather low bar.
00:26:59.000And I think this is a real crisis, and the teachers' unions are consistently on the other side, and they are consistently undermining the children of this country.
00:27:11.000I imagine you had to deal with them, you know, throughout your career in politics in the House as a speaker.
00:27:18.000But, you know, you saw a lot of the teachers' union.
00:27:21.000I think maybe COVID, maybe one of the—if there's a good thing that perhaps came out of COVID was that kids were at home and parents actually got to listen in occasionally to the garbage that was being, you know— The teachers' union may have shot themselves in the foot by wanting and pushing for the lockdowns, and teachers can't go to school, but they didn't want to go to school, they didn't want to teach online, but they also wanted to be paid fully.
00:27:51.000And then once you learn the agenda, you realize just how bad the teachers' union is.
00:27:55.000I say, listen, the greatest thing that someone could do, and it's not always feasible, but You know, pull your children out of these schools.
00:28:01.000If you can homeschool them, whatever it may be, but they're failing miserably, and yet they continue to amass this incredible power.
00:28:08.000They have total, total hegemony over the Democrat Party.
00:28:13.000What are some of the experiences that you had with them?
00:28:15.000Because you're right, how do you get through this decline in education?
00:28:19.000And maybe this is good for the Democrats, because they want, they need you to be dependent.
00:28:24.000You need to be dependent on big government.
00:28:25.000If you can't read or do math, you probably are going to be.
00:28:30.000Well, I think that, I mean, first of all, the number one purpose of teachers' unions is to get money.
00:28:35.000They have over $5 billion a year that they can spend on campaigns, on politics.
00:28:42.000In a number of places, they basically own the legislature, including a significant number of Republicans.
00:28:49.000I've concluded I was, as a congressman, part of the group that launched the press coverage of A Nation at Risk, which Ronald Reagan had commissioned in 1983.
00:29:00.000And way back in 1983, they said, 40 years ago, that we were faced with a crisis and that if a foreign country was doing to our students What we're doing to them, we would consider an act of war because it is so destructive.
00:29:19.000That's 40 years ago. I participated in lots of efforts at reform.
00:29:23.000And my conclusion, I just had someone tell me two days ago that they have a proposal that we basically eliminate the Department of Education.
00:29:31.000Take that $80 billion in funding, turn it into scholarships for students so that they and their parents can pick the school that's working and can go to a place.
00:29:42.000And you see some of these numbers are staggering.
00:29:44.000Catholic schools at about one-fourth the cost of public unionized schools do radically better at getting them prepared for college.
00:29:55.000Same neighborhood, same children, but the schools engage the parents, the schools have discipline, and the schools focus on what you and I would consider the basics.
00:30:06.000If you can't read, if you can't write, if you can't do arithmetic, you don't get off on these weird conversations about social values.
00:30:14.000They just keep working and getting you to be capable of reading and writing and doing math.
00:30:21.000I mean, the teachers' union is probably the greatest thing that happened to China's plans of taking over the world.
00:30:28.000You see how the TikTok algorithm works in China.
00:30:32.000It rewards kids doing physics projects, and here it rewards the dumbest human beings we have in our country because they want our children to emulate that.
00:30:42.000In China, they want the kids to think that the kid doing physics projects is the guy they want to be like, or girl.
00:30:50.000The teachers' union seems like it's doing just that.
00:30:53.000I remember reading a quote somewhere from a former head of the teachers' union, which basically said, I'll start worrying about children when they start paying union dues.
00:31:02.000And it sort of tells you everything you need to know.
00:31:06.000Yeah, I think that's sort of the attitude.
00:31:08.000It's an industrial union attitude from about 1930.
00:31:16.000Really good teaching, and I used to teach both in high school and college, really good teaching is a missionary vocation.
00:31:24.000You're trying to engage the young person, get their mind working, recruit them to a better future, get them to do homework, to study, to be disciplined.
00:31:36.000And tragically, when you start getting schools where you're now hiring the people who graduated from the school, they can't read very well and they can't do math.
00:31:45.000So you end up with teachers who don't know very much, teaching children who have no support, And the result is truly tragic.
00:31:53.000And it's one of the places where we have to have the courage to put the children first and to decide that the parent and the child need the resources.
00:32:01.000The money should follow the student, not follow the union dues.
00:32:07.000But, you know, that continues to be a big fight.
00:32:09.000But I think people just have to be aware of it and understand that, you know, because when you go after it, you know, you're everything, a racist, whatever, with the same argument with the charter schools who also tend to way overperform, but they don't want parents to have that option because, you know, that's been an indoctrination camp for the radical left.
00:32:27.000Well, and what you see, by the way, in places like New York and Baltimore and Washington is a tremendous number of African-American and Latino parents who want their children to have the choice to go to a better school.
00:32:40.000So you're actually seeing a growing populist movement among minorities to give their children a better future and to do it despite the teachers' unions and despite the politicians that the teachers' unions pay for.
00:32:57.000Yeah, Liz, I think that's an incredible window that we as a party have to focus on.
00:33:01.000I mean, I know it's a key tenet of all the things I talk about in terms of school choice and whatnot.
00:33:06.000I think if we got behind that, I mean, maybe it's an entree opening ourselves up to some of these communities that we've, you know, been almost virtually shut out of.
00:33:14.000Because, I mean, what parent doesn't want the success of their children in the future?
00:33:18.000And as soon as they sort of wake up to what's going on, I think that could be a powerful component of the movement.
00:33:24.000I think that's right, and I think certainly the whole idea of offering, I would call them scholarships instead of vouchers, but the whole idea of offering them scholarships so that parents are empowered to be involved in their child's learning, which is the other thing we've learned.
00:33:39.000The teachers' unions are bitterly opposed to parents having a role in the classroom and having a role in their child's education.
00:33:47.000And yet, a project I work on called the America's New Majority Project, which people can see at americasnewmajorityproject.com.
00:34:03.000Over 8 out of every 10 Americans believe that parents have a right to know what's happening with their children and believe that parents ought to have some significant say in what happens in the classroom.
00:34:15.000The teachers union are bitterly opposed to having parents involved.
00:34:21.000Oh, listen, they're saying the quiet parts out loud.
00:34:23.000You know, what could a parent know about their child that we don't?
00:34:25.000I'm like, what? I mean, some of the quotes I heard, like I said, I think COVID was sort of the great awakening where people actually realized just how bad it was, right?
00:34:34.000Not only did they not want to do anything, but...
00:34:37.000The stuff that they were teaching, the things that they were prioritizing, had nothing to do with what would be a typical curriculum to actually educate children.
00:34:49.000And so perhaps that was the thing that lit the fuse, the catalyst that started the shift of people who would have been wed to these systems for so long, despite the fact that they'd been failing them all along.
00:35:02.000That's right. I do think you're exactly right that the Great irony of closing the schools down is that parents for the first time saw the classroom because it was right there on their child's computer or iPad or whatever.
00:35:19.000They had no idea how much the schools had gone towards a radical left philosophy that violates the values and the beliefs of most Americans.
00:35:32.000But I wanted to shift a little bit because you're from Atlanta.
00:35:36.000I mean, you represented, you know, Georgia, but really the district right around Atlanta for many years in Congress as Speaker of the House.
00:36:12.000Well, this is from a very reliable source who was deeply involved in this whole process.
00:36:21.000And what we found was that, according to this source, The appointment of Weiss as a special counsel after everything he'd done wrong.
00:36:34.000I remember Weiss had allowed the statute of limitations to go and the biggest tax problems.
00:36:40.000He had tried to cut a deal that was so bad, the judge threw it out.
00:36:44.000I mean, by every evidence, he was in bad shape.
00:36:48.000And the reaction of the media for the first time was so hostile.
00:36:54.000That somebody, we don't know who, somebody from Washington, whether the White House or the Justice Department, called the district attorney and said on Friday night, after they had four or five hours of this, they said, we have got to have the indictment on Monday.
00:37:09.000And I'm told that she responded, we can't do the indictment on Monday.
00:37:14.000The members of the grand jury are coming back on Tuesday.
00:37:21.000We have to have the indictment on Monday.
00:37:24.000She said, well, they're not going to get back before noon, and by the time we get done with all the paperwork and they vote, etc., it's going to be 8.30, 9 o'clock or later before I can actually announce it.
00:37:38.000And that's why I had this crazy period.
00:37:41.000I actually spent two hours with Sean Hannity watching it, and I couldn't believe it.
00:37:48.000I mean, as I said earlier, it's a combination of being a left-wing ideologue and just plain incompetent.
00:37:54.000Yeah, and so for people watching who don't know what happened, I mean, they basically released the indictment as though it was done before the Green Jury even finished.
00:38:05.000So unless it was pre-baked, unless they knew what the answer was somehow, magically, you know, I'm shocked in Atlanta.
00:38:13.000Maybe there was there a pipe burst that maybe, you know, at nine o'clock that they delayed it, that they were able to get the information magically.
00:38:19.000No one should believe in this level of coincidence anymore, but they released the indictment, they put it up on the docket as though it was done while the grand jury's still out there deliberating.
00:38:47.000She drew up the bill. She rammed it through.
00:38:51.000And so you have, and most of it, by the way, is nuts.
00:38:55.000You know, the idea that you're going to use a law designed for the mafia in order to go after a former president of the United States.
00:39:05.000And I'm ordered to go after, by the way, Rudy Giuliani, who as a U.S. attorney used that law to go after the mafia.
00:39:11.000I mean, if you think about it, the level of arrogance, the level of thinking that they're beyond being touched, It's sickening.
00:39:21.000And I think, frankly, it's all going to blow up.
00:39:24.000I think that you see it blowing up in terms of your father's poll numbers.
00:39:29.000But I think deeper than that, I think that the work that Chairman Comey is doing, which is very, very impressive in the House right now, and he is methodically and steadily finding out exactly what's going on.
00:39:44.000They're going to keep getting more and more information.
00:39:46.000And I think we're going to find out That the level of collusion, the level of manipulation, certainly is greater than Watergate.
00:39:56.000And remember, 46 people were convicted during Watergate, and the only Cabinet officer ever to go to jail was the Attorney General of the United States, John Mitchell.
00:40:06.000And I keep saying, the current Attorney General, I ought to look very carefully at what happened to Mitchell, because you see so much obstruction of justice.
00:40:17.000Who's going to actually prosecute him?
00:40:19.000That's the problem, right? They're judge, jury, and executioner of their own side.
00:40:23.000So, you know, I think Homer's doing a good job.
00:40:27.000But, like, will the Republicans ever have the cojones to actually do something like this?
00:40:32.000Because you would think this one would be easy.
00:40:34.000If the DA is putting up a thing before the grand jury is out, like, I mean, that seems like it's cut and dry.
00:40:41.000I mean, I look at this, and you look at the Watergate facts, that, like, between this, the other Hunter Biden stuff, the money, the Ukraine, China, I mean, this makes Watergate seem like kindergarten.
00:40:52.000And yet, you know, it's like the shooting, you know, by a Syrian refugee.
00:40:59.000People don't even know what's going on.
00:41:01.000They hate it with the Hunter Biden laptop during the election.
00:41:04.000I mean, it's all election interference.
00:41:05.000Plus, with this one in Georgia, my understanding, and you'd probably get it better than me, is because it's sort of done like a RICO thing...
00:41:13.000They're able to add in other people that speak about it now, right?
00:41:20.000They can add you in later because now you're talking about the thing that was so bad and therefore you're messing with it and therefore we can add you in, even if you had nothing to do with it, in an effective way to get to silence people, right?
00:41:33.000Shut off their First Amendment rights because who wants to deal with the idea of then being added as an indictee after the fact?
00:41:42.000Well, I mean, look, you have, in addition to President Trump, 18 other people were indicted in that particular thing.
00:41:52.000They released today 20 unindicted co-conspirators, and you're exactly right.
00:41:59.000That's kind of a signal if you open your mouth, we may decide to make you an indicted co-conspirator.
00:42:04.000But this has been going all over the country.
00:42:36.000It had the Nixon slate, the Kennedy slate, and they had a gubernatorial election.
00:42:41.000So the governor named his own slate, which was for Kennedy, but he named it after the first slate was organized.
00:42:46.000But, you know, you actually had the chairman of the January 6th committee had been an alternative elector for Mississippi.
00:42:55.000They talk about this idea of denying the election.
00:42:58.000Well, we know that the former Democratic candidate for governor in Georgia on 30 different occasions, 3-0, 30 different occasions denied that Governor Kemp had won.
00:43:10.000But Stacey Abrams hasn't been indicted.
00:43:15.000And my answer to you is pretty straightforward.
00:43:17.000I think the job of the Congress is to investigate and I think they're doing that.
00:43:22.000I personally, if I were a speaker, would be moving to cut off large parts of the Justice Department financially and to reach into the District Attorney's Office in Atlanta because they have a lot of federal funding and therefore you have a hook to get her under oath.
00:43:38.000I would also I mean, looking at thorough investigation, frankly, going all the way back through Obama to Hillary Clinton, I think it's the three of them.
00:43:49.000It's Hillary Clinton, it's Barack Obama, it's Joe Biden.
00:43:53.000But in addition to that, I believe that the next president, who I suspect will be your father, is going to have a U.S. attorney who goes after these people.
00:44:05.000I mean, they have gone so far beyond any reasonable behavior.
00:44:14.000And I think the average American now realizes that the system is so sick that it's going to take some pretty significant surgery to get it back to health.
00:44:23.000Yeah, no, I saw sort of an interesting, I think it was a meme the other day, it was something like, you know, they find cocaine at the White House, they find a dead body at Obama's house, there's illegal servers at Hillary's house, there's a male prostitute at Pelosi's house, so of course the FBI has to raid Trump's house.
00:44:39.000I think it tells you sort of, right, it's what this is, it's always been about this, and you know, they try to do it, same with the Alvin Bragg case in New York, try to pull it out of federal, so if he is, you can't pardon themselves, but I just don't believe that there's this level of coincidence anymore, right? Every time I did it on the show, I can't remember the exact dates anymore, but the first time they tied Joe Biden to the $10 million.
00:45:08.000The Mar-a-Lago raid happened after a Hunter Biden story.
00:45:12.000You know, Hunter Biden, you know, I don't think anything's going to happen with the Weiss thing.
00:45:16.000I mean, I think, you know, he's proven to be sort of feckless and incompetent and almost, I don't want to even say incompetent because I think it's actually deliberate.
00:45:25.000So it would appear to be incompetence, but I think he's working well.
00:45:29.000With and for the other side because they operate differently than we do.
00:45:34.000These guys themselves are functioning, frankly, like the mafia and should be looked at that way.
00:45:39.000But as long as the fox is guarding the hen house, that's never going to happen.
00:45:44.000But... You know, there's no coincidence that the Hunter stuff comes out.
00:45:50.000It sounds like something would happen.
00:45:51.000I don't believe it will. But, you know, again, immediately, let's give the media, let's give big tech something to chew on, again, to take away the attention from the incompetence of the Biden administration, the corruption of the Biden family, and focus it back on Trump.
00:46:08.000Look, I think that that's exactly right.
00:47:47.000I just sort of stayed on the sidelines because I was like, well, there's got to be something to it.
00:47:50.000But then when they started doing it to me and continue.
00:47:53.000So, you know, when they do the mea culpa two years later, I don't give them the credit because they got what they wanted out of the narrative and there's no consequence for having been wrong.
00:48:04.000I think that's true. But I also think that the tide of data and facts and discoveries is building in such a way.
00:48:15.000And frankly, these guys are so guilty.
00:48:17.000I mean, it's unbelievable how guilty they are.
00:48:21.000You know, Hillary may have stolen more than Joe.
00:48:26.000I compare organized crime in Delaware and organized crime in Chicago, and I think Hillary probably had a higher level of expectation.
00:48:35.000But the fact is, day by day, this is all starting to come out.
00:48:39.000And I took Tapper not so much as a mea culpa about the past, but as a signal in the wind That they are beginning to believe that the momentum may be on our side and that it may actually be dangerous to be stubbornly wrong.
00:48:57.000Now, when we all know this is true, the morning the New York Times breaks.
00:49:02.000And remember, I mean, the great challenge for Nixon was that the entire media hated it.
00:49:07.000The great challenge for us is that the entire media has done everything it could to back up Clinton and Obama and Biden and to try to protect them.
00:49:19.000And so we have had to gain ground despite every effort of the old order to block us.
00:49:25.000And I think, frankly, we are gaining ground.
00:49:28.000I think more and more Americans realize there's something profoundly sick in the national establishment.
00:49:35.000So what do you think their plan is, though?
00:49:39.000Listen, I don't think there's even a Democrat out there that genuinely thinks that Joe Biden is capable or competent.
00:49:45.000But I think there's plenty that are fine with him occupying the position of president because he'll sign whatever radical legislation they'll put in front of him.
00:49:54.000So, I mean, I think he's actually for the radical Democrat cause, which is basically the mainstream Democrat cause.
00:50:01.000They've left blue-collar Democrats in the dust long ago.
00:50:04.000But for that cause, Joe Biden's actually been very effective because Obama was at least smart enough to understand he wanted to protect his legacy with the American people.
00:50:16.000He'll throw him under the bus. So whether it's Obama, whether it's Susan Rice, you know, here, stick the paper.
00:50:20.000The idiot will sign it and doesn't matter.
00:50:22.000They actually get what they would want if they weren't actually worried about sort of the consequence to their reputation.
00:50:32.000Look, I think that Obama and the Obama team basically are the Biden administration.
00:50:38.000I had somebody today who's doing a lot of research writing a book on this who said, look, you watch Biden and about half the time he seems like he's cognitively incompetent.
00:50:50.000And then he does something that looks really, really smart.
00:50:52.000He said, I don't think that's because he does something that's really, really smart.
00:50:57.000I think that's because some people are handing him things.
00:51:00.000And as you know, and you just said, they're always on the left.
00:51:26.000And oh, by the way, he's leading the most radical administration in American history and doing more damage to the American system than any president since Buchanan in the 1850s.
00:51:38.000Yeah, and if you don't believe it, like, just look at his prior record.
00:51:42.000Look at his statements, whether it's on race or otherwise.
00:51:44.000Like, you know, 80-year-old Irish Catholic Joe Biden from, you know, I don't really think that he believes that, like, the trans agenda is the social issue of our time.
00:52:32.000I mean, by the way, while we're talking about the indictment, obviously you know Atlanta well.
00:52:37.000It doesn't seem to me, as an outsider, but you would, again, know much better, it doesn't seem to me like they're without their own problems with crime, that the focus of trying to indict a former president in a politically charged, sort of, in my opinion, nonsense indictment would be the best use of their time.
00:52:55.000Can you talk about The area that you know well, what's going on crime-wise there, because I think if people understood what's actually going on and then see what the DA's priorities there, they seem very divergent.
00:53:12.000Well, I mean, to take the two cases, you look at crime in Atlanta today, and you look at crime in New York, and you said, gee, what should the district attorney be doing?
00:53:22.000Should they be involved in a political circus, or should they be locking up criminals?
00:53:27.000There's no question that the people of New York and the people of Atlanta would be dramatically better off if they had a district attorney who was actually committed to protecting them.
00:53:37.000And then you go further west, you look at the absolute disaster I think that the Nancy Pelosi federal office building is now so dangerous That they've advised the federal employees to work from home because they don't want them to risk getting hurt trying to get to the federal building.
00:54:13.000And in the middle of all that, what you have is a machine engaged entirely I think it's because deep down they know that the odds are pretty good that President Trump is going to become President Trump again.
00:54:28.000The first person since Grover Cleveland, the only person in American history other than Grover Cleveland, to be in the White House, out of the White House, and back in.
00:54:39.000Yeah, I don't think they would do this if they didn't believe that Trump was actually the Republican frontrunner, because I think most of the other people, they know they'd be able to manipulate him in D.C. I think after what they've done to Trump, and now with four years of actual experience, understanding how the swamp works and where the real people and loyal people would be versus not, with that experience, I think Trump scares the hell out of them.
00:55:06.000Look, I think that if he'd gone back to Mar-a-Lago in January of 2021 and announced that he was glad to have served the country, but that he was going to focus on improving his golf and he was not going to be a candidate, I don't think any of these indictments would have occurred.
00:55:25.000I mean, I think it's an act of enormous courage on his part that knowing that he was bringing on the hostility of the entire establishment, He nonetheless has stood there.
00:55:39.000I've never seen anybody, and you've lived much closer than I have, but just the beating he's taken, starting in 2016, continued for four years in the office, now again for the last two and a half years.
00:55:53.000I don't know of anybody, except maybe Washington or Lincoln, who are in the same league of just having endured on behalf of democracy and the American system.
00:56:06.000And I think just his sheer courage is something to be admired because it's been amazing.
00:56:15.000So give me your thoughts on the primary at this point.
00:56:19.000You know, people, oh, Trump's not, he should debate.
00:56:22.000It's like, yeah, what kind of, do you know a political strategist?
00:56:26.000Would the dumbest political strategist you have ever had to deal with, would they tell someone who's up by 60 points to get on a debate stage and let someone polling at 0.02% have three hours of unfettered access to try to land a punch?
00:56:40.000I mean, it doesn't make much sense to me, but I'd love your thoughts on You know, on the primary, should the candidates, should others drop out at this point?
00:56:47.000And what do you think about sort of the weight, the millions and tens of millions of dollars that could be used towards actually defeating Joe Biden and the radical leftist agenda rather than, you know, being spent in what seems to me to be a rather futile primary for, you know, the rhinos? Well, look, first of all, it's not going to make your dad all that happy.
00:57:09.000But I think Kalista and I are going to watch the debate Wednesday night just out of pure amusement.
00:57:15.000I think, you know, I'm intrigued with Vivek Ramaswamy, who I've done three podcasts with.
00:57:24.000Because I do a podcast called News World.
00:57:28.000And if you watch, he's very close in some polls to passing DeSantis.
00:57:33.000I mean, someday somebody will write a very interesting book about the degree to which DeSantis had been, I think, a very good governor of Florida.
00:57:44.000You know, he was captain of the Yale baseball team, and I think had like a.336 batting average, but he clearly can't play at the level he's trying to play at.
00:57:54.000Well, you know, I saw that as someone who has spent a lot of time with him.
00:57:58.000They spent a lot of time and money sort of creating an image online.
00:58:02.000Right, with influencers on Twitter, you know, where they take a 10-second clip and they make it go viral and it's, you know, it's basically like something I said on Twitter two weeks ago, but it's him saying it and he's, you know, eventually, and you've seen this, right, eventually you've got to be the guy on the stage And when you're the guy on the stage for more than 10 seconds, you know, that reality pops out.
00:58:23.000I mean, I did a lot with DeSantis in 18 to get him elected, probably like three weeks on the road, maybe more than anyone that wasn't part of the campaign.
00:58:30.000And like, you know, I sort of knew it.
00:58:37.000I mean, you know, Vivek, interestingly enough, I mean, he's saying to me all of the right things Relative to the other candidates that I actually believe in, I just don't know where he was in like 18, 19, 20, 21, 20, so I don't know if he's just perhaps reading the room right and telling a base what they want to hear or if that's actually the conviction.
00:58:59.000I don't know that because I don't know him.
00:59:02.000But with what he's saying right now, he's much more appealing, and he hasn't done, at least that I've seen, the recent flip-flops based on donors or recent flip-flops based on the establishment that you saw with DeSantis out of Ukraine, etc.
00:59:16.000But it does seem like he's said things in the past that are very contrary to what he's saying now, so I don't know.
00:59:22.000Yeah, no, I think, first of all, of age 38.
00:59:26.000Yeah. And I suspect, like a lot of people, our conversation earlier about the schools, he's probably been moved much further away from the left by how bad the left has gotten.
00:59:39.000And I think that he wrote a very good book taking on wokeism in the business community and is very tough about it.
00:59:48.000Yeah. And I think that was legitimate.
00:59:51.000But the thing that's interesting is, to your point about DeSantis, and I think in this sense, Vivek does have a significant advantage.
01:00:30.000He's not pretending to be somebody else.
01:00:33.000I used to always tell, I don't know how you'll feel about this, but I used to tell reporters back when he was emerging in 15 and 16 that if The Apprentice had come on on PBS right after Downton Abbey, They would have understood how really good on television Trump is.
01:00:53.000But because The Apprentice was on commercial television, none of them had ever seen it.
01:00:58.000And so they had no idea that for 13 years he'd been doing television.
01:01:03.000I mean, he actually had done more television than Reagan.
01:01:06.000Didn't do feature films, but he did more actual television than Reagan.
01:01:10.000And as you know, I mean, he intuitively understands this stuff.
01:01:14.000And he understands that being yourself Beats every other imitation.
01:01:27.000On Sunday on Meet the Press, the moderator couldn't help himself interviewing the governor of North Dakota.
01:01:37.000Eight of the nine questions were about Trump.
01:01:43.000I mean, Trump will probably be the dominant topic of the debate he's not going to.
01:01:49.000But you're right about the authenticity.
01:01:53.000By the way, I think I've told you this.
01:01:56.000I don't know if I've said it publicly.
01:01:58.000I did a lot helping my father in 16, but I think my breakout moment was my Republican National Convention speech.
01:02:08.000And so I had worked for weeks for this thing, because, you know, you're getting up and giving a speech, and I'm usually like this, sort of off the cuff and, you know, impromptu, but that one actually wrote out a speech and sort of practiced it heavily, and I had spent weeks on it.
01:02:23.000This was when we were literally on a plane talking about VP candidates.
01:02:26.000You were very involved in the process, and you were someone that was, you know, in that running very much.
01:02:31.000I actually liked you a lot for that role.
01:02:34.000But I just said, hey, I'm with, like, You know, the guy, the Speaker of the House that did, you know, contract with America, like, you know, someone who understands this, like, hey, Mr.
01:02:47.000Gingrich, would you mind just reading this speech and giving me your thoughts?
01:02:50.000And you did. And you handed it back to me after a few minutes.
01:03:01.000It was the exact same speech, but just rather than trying to prove something with some sort of, you know, nine-syllable word that no one knows or what, you know what I mean?
01:03:11.000It was just the same word, but simpler.
01:03:46.000He knew how to deliver it as a professional actor.
01:03:51.000And he was very confident about what he was doing and how he was doing it.
01:03:56.000And I think while their styles are very different, I think there are a lot of actual similarities between Trump and Reagan because I think both of them are outside the establishment.
01:04:08.000Both of them believe in a classic America that has the rule of law and the constitution.
01:04:13.000That has the work ethic, that has entrepreneurship.
01:04:17.000Both of them believe the future can be better.
01:04:22.000I think all real Americans have this gut instinct that we've been endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
01:04:37.000And all of us have the right to pursue happiness.
01:04:40.000As your point about equity, no place doesn't guarantee happiness.
01:04:45.000I've always said liberals, if they could do it, would issue happiness stamps.
01:04:49.000And that would be part of their program.
01:04:50.000Yeah, they want equality of outcome, not equality of opportunity.
01:04:55.000And those two things are very divergent.
01:05:01.000But Reagan was really the person who I learned from.
01:05:05.000And I have to say, I don't know, I've always assumed that your dad learned this from the construction side rather than the finance side of real estate.
01:05:18.000But he has a knack of clarity that is, you know, with him, a revolution has occurred.
01:05:26.000Yeah. If you are a high school graduate, you're almost certainly for Trump.
01:05:31.000If you're a graduate degree from Harvard, you're almost certainly against Trump.
01:05:35.000This is a reversal of the classic class division in America.
01:05:40.000Historically, the Franklin Delano Roosevelt majority were blue collar workers and farmers and people who worked for a living.
01:05:48.000And the Republicans were the rich guys at the country club.
01:05:52.000Trump has been a part of a long, it was a long cycle, but he really decisively shifted it.
01:05:58.000And I always thought it was in part because the The cadence of his language, the way he expresses himself, the core love of America, the fact that he picked MAGA. He didn't pick make Trump great.
01:06:16.000And I think all of that fit into, and you see in the polling data right now, by the way, those are the folks who are the most offended by the government coming after you because they see the government coming after themselves.
01:06:37.000Like I said, he is that kind of communicator because he wasn't just a real estate guy who became a billionaire, but he spent time on the ground with the construction workers.
01:06:47.000To your point about communication, you know, he says these things, and it's very effective to the real people of America.
01:06:54.000But the media will sit there and be...
01:06:56.000He speaks at a fourth grade reading level.
01:06:58.000The guy's made about a billion times more than them.
01:07:01.000These people are worthless reporters who will be replaced by AI in about six months with no other skill set or capability.
01:07:09.000But Trump's the guy with a fourth grade speaking cadence.
01:07:13.000It was really interesting to see that because it also showed...
01:07:17.000To me, the level of disdain, you know, the quote-unquote elite, and again, they're elite not because they actually accomplished anything or doing anything serious, certainly not these days when they're just a mouthpiece for whatever the Democrat Party wants.
01:07:34.000But, you know, the level of disdain that elite media, elite politics, elite tech has for, like, the hardworking men and women of America.
01:07:47.000I think it's a college and graduate school educated snobbishness.
01:07:52.000You know, we're the people who go to the opera, and you're the people who go to country music events.
01:07:58.000That kind of attitude. And of course, you've seen recently this explosion of country music protests that has really been remarkably powerful and has been entirely spontaneous.
01:08:11.000I mean, it didn't involve Disney or somebody spending $100 million to sell it.
01:08:16.000It's just people listening and said, hey, you ought to listen to this.
01:08:19.000No, 100%. So now, you're out with a book, you know, A March to the Majority, about the Republican Revolution you led in 1994.
01:08:29.000But, you know, to win the House majority again, what lessons could be learned from that election for 2024?
01:08:39.000Well, we actually, Joe Gaylord, who was my partner for 16 years in doing this, we wrote March the Majority really as a playbook.
01:08:48.000While it's history, it's really designed to say, look, guys, these things work, and they're pretty straightforward, you know, and I hope that as the Republican nominee that your dad is going to follow it as well as the candidates at every level.
01:09:03.000When you win a title election, this is what happened with Reagan, who carried in the Senate, picked up 14 Senate seats, picked up a bunch of governorships, picked up 29 House seats.
01:09:14.000When we won in 94, we gained control of the Senate, we gained governorships, we gained state legislators.
01:09:21.000Same thing happened in 2010, and the same thing happened in 2016.
01:09:27.000The first principle is, it all grows out of the American people.
01:09:33.000Lincoln's government of the people, by the people, for the people means you've got to listen to the American people.
01:09:38.000And I'll give you an example. At our project, America's New Majority Project, it's clear to us that affordability It's a much bigger issue than employment.
01:09:51.000People aren't as worried about a job as they are about the fact that even if they have a job, they can't afford things.
01:09:57.000And so there was a poll that just came out from The Economist.
01:10:00.00057% of the country thinks that affordability is the number one issue economically.
01:10:33.000I mean, hey, I always say it, and I understand fully where I come from.
01:10:37.000I'm the son of a Manhattan billionaire, okay?
01:10:39.000If I'm pissed off when I go to the grocery store or the pump because I can see the changes, I don't want to sound like an ass, but if gas was $10, it wouldn't probably change my routine all that much.
01:10:55.000I'd be pissed off about it. But where it is now, I notice it.
01:10:58.000If I take my kids, I have them for the weekend, and we go shopping for whatever, it's ridiculous.
01:11:03.000The change doesn't affect me necessarily, but if I feel like, oh my God, that's really expensive, what is a hardworking family making $50,000, $60,000, $70,000 a year?
01:11:16.000The cost of their mortgage resets and it doubles because of the interest rates.
01:11:22.000What's going to happen? I mean, it's a bloodbath, unfortunately.
01:11:26.000And the recipients of that are going to be the hardworking American people.
01:11:31.000And remember, housing prices is a double whammy.
01:11:34.000When the mortgage goes up, people can't afford to buy it, and the price of the house comes down because you can't afford as big a mortgage.
01:11:42.000So if you've worked all your life, finally paid off your house, that's your basic retirement for your savings.
01:11:48.000Suddenly it's worth 20% less because of Joe Biden.
01:11:52.000And that's why I think next year, in terms of what we should be doing, we ought to have a series of very big choices.
01:12:00.000We want a lot less spending to move to a balanced budget to eliminate inflation and to eliminate, you know, we're going to pay a trillion dollars interest on the debt in the near future, more than the Defense Department.
01:12:14.000That's crazy. I mean, no family, no business could survive very long at the level of debt that we're building up.
01:12:22.000And, you know, now if you're a socialist, you don't care.
01:12:25.000Yeah, no, of course. If you ran your small business like we run our country, you'd be bankrupt.
01:12:31.000And yet they continue to double down, right?
01:12:33.000Because they're playing with other people's money.
01:12:35.000Yeah. So if you're a big government socialist, you want dependency.
01:12:40.000You want people to have to rely on government.
01:12:43.000And so everything we're doing, which is to liberate people, to let them go out and earn a decent living and create jobs, is the opposite of what big government socialists favor.
01:12:54.000So, you know, back to sort of the big government.
01:12:58.000You know, we learned Hunter Biden's lawyer had threatened to put Joe Biden on the witness stand if the DOJ charged Hunter.
01:13:05.000The DOJ essentially responded by giving Hunter a sweetheart plea deal.
01:13:11.000would not have gotten the Hunter Biden sweet deal.
01:13:13.000What do you make of the DOJ basically functioning as Joe Biden's personal defense attorneys?
01:13:18.000It seems like that in and of itself would be a miscarriage of justice.
01:13:24.000Sure. I start every morning with an assumption that the Department of Justice has been corrupted, starting with Barack Obama, that the FBI senior leadership has been corrupted, that the IRS senior leadership has been corrupted, that the White House itself is an engine of corruption.
01:13:45.000I mean, I look out there and You know, I used to tell people that liberals had a hard time dealing with violence, whether it's terrorism or it's crime, because they saw The Lion King and they thought it was a documentary.
01:13:59.000And they actually think that lions and zebras sing and dance together.
01:14:03.000But it occurred to me one day, we have the same problem.
01:14:06.000We look at these guys and we have very smart people.
01:15:14.000Because she was the ambassador of the Vatican, Calista does a lot of writing about religious freedom and about what happens around the world.
01:15:22.000If you watch the Sandinistas in Nicaragua, where they have locked up the bishop, I think for like 25 years, they don't care about it.
01:15:30.000The law to them is a tool for the exercise of power.
01:15:35.000It's not the rule of law, it's the rule of power.
01:15:39.000You're seeing a really deep sickness that Obama brought in more than any other single person, and which has now spread through the executive branch, reinforced by the news media.
01:15:52.000I mean, I have to say, I'm more worried about whether or not the rule of law is going to survive than I would have thought possible 10 years ago.
01:16:01.000Well, do you think The Republicans in the House are doing enough to actually fight back against that.
01:16:37.000If not, what more should they be doing and how much more aggressive should they get?
01:16:41.000Well, I actually believe, based on conversations I've had recently, I actually believe that they now understand they have to ramp up with more attorneys, more aggressiveness, a wider range effort to dig out what's going wrong.
01:16:57.000I'm trying to convince them to subpoena the Clinton Foundation financial records, which I think we're going to find are breathtaking.
01:17:06.000There was a meeting in January of 2017 while Obama was still in office.
01:17:14.000I think they should be subpoenaing all the people who are in that meeting and get them to come in and testify.
01:17:20.000There were two documents that came out of that meeting.
01:17:23.000One was a CIA document that Brenner produced, and Brenner, remember, was the guy who voted
01:17:30.000for the Communist Party candidate in the last election before he joined the CIA.
01:17:34.000I mean, this is a bad guy, maybe the worst CIA director in history.
01:17:39.000And also, Jay Johnson produced a similar document out of the same meeting, which is the document
01:17:46.000which justified the government politicizing social media.
01:17:50.000So that meeting, I think, is an example.
01:17:52.000So I think they've got to broaden the scope of what they're looking at.
01:17:55.000It's much more than just Joe Biden and Hunter.
01:17:58.000And I think they need to simply get the number of resources they need to do that.
01:18:04.000My sense talking with very senior leaders is that they're moving in that direction that I think they've been surprised by how much they're learning and how sick it is.
01:18:13.000And I think that's all going to come out this fall.
01:18:16.000Will they ever use the appropriations power?
01:18:18.000I mean, you know, you've got a bill coming up soon.
01:18:20.000I hope so. You know, it feels like that's the cruddle, no matter what.
01:18:22.000Listen, you're not going to get much done with a four-seat majority.
01:18:49.000I mean, my strong advice, and I've said this publicly, is that as of September 30th, that the people who've been involved in what we think is clearly violating the law should run out of money.
01:19:05.000Yeah. I mean, I don't think that's complicated.
01:19:12.000Well, it may be usually controversial.
01:19:14.000It shouldn't be, but only because we live in bizarro world, right?
01:19:17.000We live in a media where big tech and the mainstream media have decided that they're going to be the marketing arm of the opposition party.
01:19:26.000So it'll be controversial, but it shouldn't be for any reasons.
01:19:29.000And if the roles and party affiliations were reversed, it wouldn't be controversial at all.
01:20:18.000But for this September, one would be the FBI building.
01:20:23.000The idea of giving them a $3 billion headquarters bigger than the Pentagon is insane.
01:20:28.000You're rewarding the people that want to end your existence, that have called concerned mothers and parents who go to PTA meetings, domestic terrorists, the same people that ignore the shooter and certainly don't make a big deal about a shooter last month that wanted to commit a mass atrocity.
01:20:45.000You're rewarding them with a $3 billion new building.
01:20:50.000They shouldn't be dismantled as far as I'm concerned.
01:20:53.000I'm not saying you don't need an organization that does it, but the bureaucrats that control The top, they've been corrupted.
01:21:00.000They're as bad as the mainstream media, if not worse.
01:21:05.000Yeah, well, then they're in collusion with each other.
01:21:07.000But anyway, I would pick a couple of targets, one of which would be the entire process of what we would regard as, frankly, unconstitutional.
01:21:17.000And by the way, Smith was rebuked unanimously by the Supreme Court because he did exactly the same thing to Governor Bob McDonnell of Virginia.
01:21:27.000And the court came back and said that he had totally distorted the law.
01:21:31.000Well, when I hear that President Trump is indicted under the 1870 Ku Klux Klan in South Carolina bill, I look at that and I think, okay, I mean, I know he's an older guy, and I'm a little bit older than he is, but neither of us were around in 1870, and neither of us were involved.
01:21:51.000Ironically, the Ku Klux Klan Act passed with only Republican votes, and every Democrat voted against it because they were in favor of segregation and in favor of the Klan.
01:22:03.000Something people in the modern Democratic Party have no notion of because they're not allowed to learn any history.
01:22:08.000But I look at that and I say, you know, a guy who would do that, somebody who takes Trump into the District of Columbia where he lost 19 to 1.
01:22:18.000Now, how can you have a jury of your peers if the jury pool is 19 to 1 against you?
01:22:25.000I mean, this is the kind of stuff where I think they would be very well advised, take a fairly narrow slice, focus on it, and just stand firm and say no.
01:22:35.000I think Jack Smith's record is precisely why he end up in that position, right?
01:22:44.000He doesn't care about anything. He's a political operator for them.
01:22:48.000He's a hitman for the Democrat Party, essentially, and he'll do whatever they want him to do because he actually believes in that.
01:22:53.000So... Yeah, it's, you know, we're not playing the same game as we've been talking about.
01:23:00.000I think that's right. So I think that if the word, you know, it probably takes some pretty clever wording, but you need to get good lawyers to do it.
01:23:07.000But I do think cutting off the money for things we believe are illegal is not only legitimate, I think it's morally necessary.
01:23:16.000Yeah. So you've been involved in Republican Party politics for quite some time, politics in general.
01:23:23.000How has the Republican Party changed, in your opinion, for the better?
01:23:26.000And perhaps, how has it changed for the worse?
01:23:32.000Well, I mean, I first got active in August of 1958, so I've been at this for a really long time.
01:23:45.000I would say the party overall is smarter than it was.
01:23:49.000I think Reagan had a huge impact bringing new people in, just as I think President Trump has had a huge impact bringing people in.
01:23:59.000But the Republican Party is historically an anti-intellectual party.
01:24:05.000It goes back probably to Theodore Roosevelt's progressives leaving in 1912.
01:24:10.000And so the result is that you don't get the scale of ideas you do on the left, and you don't get people who are as articulate as people on the left.
01:24:21.000On the other hand, I think that we're beginning to attract a lot of veterans, a lot of entrepreneurs.
01:24:33.000This is a richer and more diverse party than the party I belonged to many years ago.
01:24:39.000And I'm encouraged, if you look at, for example, the red states, we have a lot of really smart people doing really smart things.
01:24:48.000And the gap between blue states like New Jersey, New York, Illinois, and California is And the rest of the country is growing.
01:24:56.000Somebody's pointing out to me today, I did a Zoom meeting with state legislators in Michigan, and Michigan under the current governor is losing population like crazy because she's making it so expensive to live in Michigan that there's just, you know, a lot of nice places that don't have as much snow and people are just leaving.
01:25:15.000So I think in that sense, we're becoming a more diverse party and a more problem-solving party And we still have probably another eight or ten years of evolving to get to where we need to be.
01:25:30.000But I think next year is going to be a very good year for us.
01:25:35.000I think people are going to be surprised by how well we do.
01:25:38.000And I think that in part because of your father and because of developing the whole America First policy agenda, I think we are likely to really have a genuine momentum That in 2025, let's just start changing Washington in ways we wouldn't have understood in 17 because none of us really fully understood how bad it was.
01:26:03.000And I think the last, from 17 to today, has been a remarkable education on how sick the system is and how much it has to be reformed.
01:27:17.000I appreciate you giving me a chance to come and share ideas with you.
01:27:21.000Well, I appreciate it. Like I said, you may have given me perhaps the best political advice I'd ever received.
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