In this episode, we're joined by economist Steve Moore, author Lee Smith, and producer Matt Walsh to discuss the cost of living crisis, the Democratic Party's anti-American agenda, and why Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are the worst economic candidates in the history of the country. Plus, a new book by Lee Smith on his new book, Disappearing the President, which tells the next chapter in the swamp s corruption and why the Russiagate playbook is still rearing its ugly head once again. And we have a fun one for you guys, a little less academic, but the producer and star of the new film, Am I Racist? Matt Walsh joins us to reveal how... he even was able to pull all of this off and expose the fraudulent DEI consultants in the best way possible. Don t miss it! Resources: The Trump Economic Miracle: The President's Economic Miracle The Cost of Living Crisis: Why Joe Biden Is Worse Than You The Democratic Party s $1.5 Trillion-A-Day Problem Joe Biden's New Book: Disappearing The President: Why the Swamp Is Still Working on Watergate What's at Stake for the Democrats? Who's Winning the 2020 Election? We'll Tell You What's At Stake in 2020? Don't Tell Me What You Think: What's the Biggest Threat to Your Favorite President's Economy? What s at Stolen from the White House? Why Donald Trump's Economy Is the Most Powerful Person in the Most Important Election in America's Most Powerful Political Campaign? And Who's the Most Likely To Win It? and Who's The Most Important Person in 2020's Most Influential Person Who Will Make It Most Likely to Win It Next Year? , and How Will It All Come Out on November 6th, and Who Will It Happen the Most Impacted The Most In 2020 And Who Will Win It the Most In A Biggest Party in The Most Decade? Join the Conversation? Subscribe to our new podcast, RATE, Subscribe to Our New York Times bestselling book, and Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Subscribe on iTunes, Kindle, and subscribe on Podchaser, or Pocketbook, and Share it on Podcoin, and more! Become a Friend of Public Square? Learn more about your Day Offset, Share It on Social Media, and Shout It Out! Subscribe To Our Podcasts!
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00:06:25.000We're going to have three guests, all on different topics, and they're perhaps the three most important issues of this campaign.
00:06:35.000First off, we're going to talk with economist Steve Moore on the cost of living crisis.
00:06:40.000The cost of living crisis created by the insane policies of today's Democrat Party, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, Miracle.
00:06:51.000Then, we're going to have author and investigative reporter Lee Smith on his new book, Disappearing the President, which tells the next chapter in the swamp's corruption and why Russiagate playbook is still rearing its ugly head once again.
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00:09:01.000And joining me now, the coauthor of the new book, The Trump Economic Miracle, founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, Steve Moore.
00:09:21.000And, you know, our book is just basically for pocketbook issues, for people who are going to vote, you know, based on those kitchen table issues.
00:09:28.000The book just shows very clearly that Trump is record.
00:09:33.000I'm just looking at the cold, hard facts.
00:09:36.000His record for middle class Americans, whether it's on jobs, whether it's incomes, whether it's gas prices, whether it's small business conditions, whether it's mortgage rates, it's hard to find a single statistic or measurement where Biden and Harris have outperformed Trump.
00:09:51.000So I just wanted to get that information out there, and I appreciate you having me on, because people keep saying that the economy is the number one issue, and if it is, then there's no question the guy who's going to save the economy, and that's Donald J. Trump.
00:10:05.000So, you know, I guess, big picture, what is at stake this November economically for the average American?
00:10:11.000And what is, you know, the Trump economic miracle that you're writing about?
00:10:20.000And as you know, I work with Art Lapper and Larry Kudlow and a gang of fantastic economists to help put that plan together for President Trump.
00:10:41.000Of course, the Deregulation saved the average family about $10,000, according to Casey Mulligan, one of the top economists at University of Chicago.
00:10:51.000We had better trade deals that made other countries play by the rules.
00:10:55.000And then, of course, we became the world's largest energy producer when Trump was president.
00:11:01.000And for the first time in your and my lifetime, we weren't importing oil and gas from other countries.
00:11:06.000I mean, those are just a few of the things.
00:11:08.000And the thing is, Don, You know, I love the fact that Trump is now talking about that he's the common sense candidate because he is.
00:11:16.000I mean, all the things that he's talking about are common sense.
00:12:05.000And that means that people are really living in a cost of living crisis.
00:12:08.000You can't afford to have the same lifestyle that you had four years ago.
00:12:12.000You know, talk about that impact in real dollars.
00:12:15.000Well, if you look at the, you know, it's funny because when I'll go on Fox News or some of these other shows and recite the official number, which is the prices are up by 20.1%, people will come up to me and they'll get angry.
00:12:26.000And I say, why do you keep saying it's only 20.1%?
00:12:29.000I say, well, that's the official number.
00:12:30.000And people point out to me correctly, well, wait a minute.
00:13:05.000And that's remarkable because we're supposed to be in a recovery from what happened to COVID, and yet people are poorer today than they were four years ago.
00:13:14.000Yeah, one of your peers, Paul Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in economics.
00:13:56.000So, you know, I was especially angry when I saw, I think it was a week ago, the Wall Street Journal had this piece, of course, they put it on the front page, that they surveyed 50 economists.
00:14:05.000I don't know who these economists are.
00:14:07.000And they said, well, Kamala Harris will be better than Trump on inflation.
00:14:15.000I mean, the inflation rate when Trump was president for the four years was 1.9%.
00:14:20.000And that's below the As you know, the inflation target that the Fed sets at 2%, so we're below their target.
00:14:27.000The average inflation rate for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden in the last four years has been about 6.5%, so three times higher.
00:14:36.000So how could anyone look at those numbers and say, well, gee, it's like saying, this guy struck out the last four times he's come to bat, then this guy hit three home runs in the last four times he's come to bat, but we think we're going to bring up the guy who struck out every time.
00:14:50.000I mean, that's certainly an analogy that I can think of.
00:14:56.000You know, I guess I'd ask, you know, my father did a lot as it relates to deregulation.
00:15:01.000You know, freeing up those things, getting rid of some of the inefficiencies, the bloat, the bureaucracy that really stops progress and ultimately the growth that you need to grow out of so many of the problems that have been caused.
00:15:51.000It's so preposterous because he could put up 100,000 satellites in the air and the idea that somehow even one of them would ever fall on a shark or a whale is one in a thousand.
00:16:08.000And what he should have said, by the way, that is, wait a minute, the things that are killing sharks and whales are these offshore windmills that are, we see the whales, you know, being, you You know, being killed by these and sweeping up on the beaches.
00:17:01.000And I think he's been amazing in terms of his performance.
00:17:05.000But he just has the common man's touch.
00:17:08.000And you know this 100 times better than I do because you've been around your father, you know, for your whole life.
00:17:13.000But the few times that I've been around him in those settings, one of the things that first impressed me, Don, when I first met your father back in January of 2020, and it just struck a chord with me was how he treats people.
00:17:50.000I think, you know, when he's trying to negotiate with Xi and Putin, he only puts up the hard edge.
00:17:55.000But the reality, you know, I got in trouble for it like 20 years ago when I was the first person to coin him sort of the blue collar billionaire.
00:18:02.000But the reality is like, that's who he is.
00:18:07.000He created an aura around being a Manhattan billionaire, but he's a regular guy at heart in so many ways.
00:18:14.000Well, the funny thing, too, about the McDonald's experience was that, you know, the CEO of McDonald's said, we have no record of Kamala Harris ever working for McDonald's.
00:18:23.000That was her one year of business experience.
00:18:25.000And, you know, my response to that is, what kind of a loser has to put on their resume, lie on their resume about working one year at McDonald's?
00:18:33.000But this is a serious point, though, because There's a huge difference between, just put ideology aside.
00:18:40.000We may, as Americans, disagree on the issues, and that's fine.
00:19:10.000Steve, I'd be remiss though if I didn't, you know, obviously she'll lie about anything to try to, you know, ingratiate herself to regular people, but she's not a regular person.
00:19:16.000She's, you know, I know they like to call us weird, but you listen to her laugh, you listen to the commentary, you listen to the lies, you look at her VP choice and you realize there's never been a weirder, you know, candidate set out there.
00:19:29.000But, you know, since we have you and we're talking about economics, I do have to ask you about the Fed.
00:19:35.000How many more dollars Can America print before it's just a catastrophe?
00:19:41.000I mean, are we already past the Rubicon on this one?
00:19:44.000I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
00:19:54.000And, you know, is there still a component of, you know, almost regardless of who wins, even if it's Trump, are you still paying the piper for some of these decisions that have been so disastrous over the last four years?
00:20:04.000Of course, because the second biggest expenditure item now, you know this, even bigger than our national defense, it's just interest on the debt that mostly Biden has racked up.
00:20:28.000They're not doing what for the American people.
00:20:30.000They're trying to sway an election and they're trying to, you know, artificially bolster an economy to make it seem like, you know, the incompetent policies of the Democrat Party are somehow good for America.
00:20:41.000Yeah, no, you're exactly right about that.
00:20:43.000You know, the fact that they did a 50 basis point decline in the interest rates, they waited, what, two or three years to do that, and then they do it on the eve of an election.
00:20:53.000And Jerome Powell, sanctimoniously, always talks about how we can't make the, you know, the Fed political.
00:20:59.000That was one of the most political moves ever in the history of the Fed.
00:21:03.000And by the way, the next Fed meeting, do you know what it is, Don?
00:21:08.000Maybe they could have waited a few weeks to do that so they're not intervening, but of course they are putting their thumb on the scale in favor of Kamala Harris because, you know, they know that Donald Trump is going to put in new people at the Fed, and I think we do need We do need people.
00:21:23.000But we also need, you know, we need a Congress that is going to get control of spending.
00:21:28.000And that's why I go back to Elon Musk.
00:21:31.000I love, love his idea of an efficiency, redundancy, waste commission.
00:21:38.000You know what job I want if Trump wins?
00:21:41.000I want to be the executive director of that commission.
00:21:44.000And we're going to go through every nook and cranny of the government.
00:21:46.000I think, Don, I really believe we could come up with $1 trillion of savings And Americans wouldn't even feel it.
00:21:53.000Oh yeah, well, Elon did that at Twitter, right?
00:21:55.000He cut 80% of the workforce and it functioned better.
00:21:59.000Like, you know, imagine you put that to scale at the government.
00:22:02.000I mean, I think a trillion dollars, you just, man, it's probably more than that.
00:22:06.000And you compound that over generations.
00:22:08.000And again, the inefficiency, the bloat, the bureaucracy, I think it would just be incredible.
00:22:15.000Steve, tell us again about the book, where they can get it, where people can learn more so that they can check it out and try to educate themselves in the last two weeks of this thing.
00:22:23.000Well, as you know, Arthur Laffermer, my co-author, the most famous economist in the world, and I served with great pride for Donald Trump in his first term in terms of helping advise him.
00:22:37.000And so when we went to him with this book idea, because we wrote a book five years ago called Trumponomics and how it worked.
00:23:34.000Or read it yourself and tell them if they're too lazy to do it on their own because we've got to do everything we can between now and Election Day, right?
00:23:44.000Look forward to talking to you soon and look forward to maybe getting you in to head up that task force because I think there's a lot of great stuff we can do.
00:23:51.000Tell the President that's what I want to do.
00:23:52.000You always ask me, Steve, what do you want to do?
00:25:25.000Now, as we've covered on this show day in and day out, the 2024 election may be our last real chance to end the lawfare and corruption once and for all.
00:25:35.000We've seen how U.S. intelligence agencies have turned their tools against we the people and how a rogue cabal of bureaucrats will do anything to stop my father and the MAGA movement from taking back power.
00:25:49.000Because, folks, they know they are one day closer from being exposed like never before.
00:26:14.000Thanks very much for inviting me on today.
00:26:15.000It's great to see you and great to talk with you.
00:26:18.000Well, thank you for all you're doing and thanks for joining.
00:26:21.000First of all, I'd like to talk about the title of this book, Disappearing the President.
00:26:26.000I loved the plot against the president originally back in, I guess, probably 2020 when that came out.
00:26:33.000But What an ominous but probably accurate title.
00:26:38.000Talk about where the book started for you, what you found, you know, and what changed in sort of the evolution of you talking about My Father's Presidency.
00:26:45.000Well, I mean, I think that what we've seen is, I mean, this is really disappearing.
00:26:49.000The president's really kind of an encyclopedic account of what we've seen since 2016 up through, you know, on the cover, there's the picture of your father getting up at Butler, Pennsylvania after he's shot and saying, fight, fight, fight.
00:27:06.000Again, the encyclopedic account, what's gone into this, who's been part of this operation, Against your father, against his aides, against his supporters, against the Republic.
00:27:18.000And the title refers to what happened mostly in Latin America in the 70s and 80s, when the intelligence services turned against the opposition and basically how they disappeared, the opposition.
00:27:32.000And your father, as I describe in the book, your father is...
00:27:37.000the leading dissident of the free world.
00:27:40.000And I describe him throughout the book as the leader of the opposition.
00:27:44.000I think it's important not only for the United States, but insofar as, again, he's also the leading spokesman for freedom of speech.
00:27:51.000So this is important, of course, for us, for Americans, but across the world as well, what he stands for, freedom of speech, and being part, being the leader of such an important opposition movement, which is really how I understand your father's role over the last eight years at least. which is really how I understand your father's role over So, I mean, the book exposes really how a network of powerful left-wing activists has waged a years-long scorched-earth war to eradicate the notion of America first.
00:28:20.000I mean, I don't know what the problem with America first is, but apparently they do.
00:28:24.000And ultimately, my father's influence.
00:30:10.000Can you talk about the revolving door and the relationship between the intelligence community, big tech, all of these fake NGOs, which is basically the government's way of money laundering to do what they want, but in a way that's not audited by the American public.
00:30:26.000They give these NGOs money, they go function as essentially governmental entities, all left-wing.
00:30:35.000And how does the media enable their corruption?
00:30:38.000Because that's all it is at this point.
00:30:39.000Well, I mean, the media won't talk about it, right?
00:30:41.000I mean, one of the things, for instance, the media won't talk about, I mean, Barack Obama is the first president who stayed in Washington since Woodrow Wilson 100 years ago.
00:30:53.000He was incapacitated the last 18 months of his presidency.
00:30:57.000So some of the times the media is making stuff up, and other times it's by omission that it's covering things up.
00:31:04.000But it's fascinating that you talk about the revolving door with big tech, the intelligence services and political operatives.
00:31:13.000And we actually saw this start, especially during Obama's second term, going back and forth between Washington, D.C. and Palo Alto.
00:31:22.000And then after your father was elected, we saw this start to happen with the intelligence services, FBI, CIA, dozens, hundreds of people at Facebook, at Twitter.
00:31:34.000at places like Reddit, places like Airbnb, It's just astonishing.
00:31:41.000So how the government has infiltrated big tech platforms, and it's no mystery then why we've seen surveillance, why we've seen censorship, because that's what they've done.
00:31:54.000The government and the intelligence services have infiltrated these private industries as well as...
00:32:01.000As well as other institutions, including Wall Street.
00:32:05.000What did you learn about how all of this impacts our election process?
00:32:09.000Obviously, we're less than two weeks out.
00:32:14.000And why is it that the ones screaming about protecting democracy seem to be the same ones working almost tirelessly to totally undermine it at all costs?
00:32:41.000What they're talking about is they're talking about their privileges and their prerogatives, and that's what they're worried about.
00:32:47.000That is the key thing that they're worried about.
00:32:51.000And we see it's we're living in a virtually Orwellian time when you hear them talk about how rights are being violated by asking the California law where it's illegal to ask for voter ID.
00:33:37.000There's an understanding of how people are trying to hurt the country and who's standing up for the country and what your father represents, represents to all Americans.
00:34:29.000RFK may have a hard time with that one, but I am...
00:34:32.000I've seen him scarf down a burger or two, so everything in moderation, right?
00:34:37.000I mean, the big thing was that he was working there and showing people whenever they say, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do, whatever it is.
00:34:46.000I mean, of course, you treat Americans like human beings.
00:34:51.000You give them a fair wage, and you talk to them about the dignity of work, and this is one of the things that your father reminded people of.
00:34:58.000And so I think there's such a tremendous optimism going in.
00:35:11.000But I think that people are concerned, obviously, about that now, too.
00:35:16.000But the optimism going in and the hopefulness, I mean, it's a tremendous reawakening for the country.
00:35:22.000And again, I think that's something that's...
00:35:25.000Captured and disappearing the president, as well as the ongoing campaign against your father, against the America First movement in general.
00:35:36.000Lee, the subtitle of the book was sort of interesting.
00:35:50.000And one of the points I make, this is one of the guys at Truth Social who said, he said, yeah, now Donald Trump is a tech startup billionaire.
00:35:58.000In addition to everything else that he's done, I'm like, yeah.
00:36:01.000And he says in the book, he said elsewhere as well, that it's exciting how well it's doing and exciting the amount of money that the company has made.
00:36:12.000But what's really important is that this is his voice.
00:36:15.000So the book pays a lot of attention to January 6th, and that was banished from social media, banished from Twitter, banished from Facebook immediately right after January 6th.
00:36:26.000And so he was looking for a way to address Americans.
00:36:30.000He explains how he had so much to say and so many people wanted to hear from him.
00:36:47.000But a lot of all of this is really made possible by Truth Social and the work your father did and the rest of the Truth Social team over there to make sure that people have an opportunity to speak to one another, to engage with your father.
00:37:01.000This was always the thing that people love so much about Twitter, the idea that your father was out there all the time.
00:37:08.000There were different friends of mine who were talking about Russiagate, and they would be retweeted by your father, and they would just lose their minds.
00:37:54.000I hope I'm not being too repetitive, but I want to say really the censorship campaign, the way that this really started was immediately after your father's his first election in 2016.
00:38:05.000What happened was when Barack Obama pulled aside Mark Zuckerberg at a conference in Lima, Peru, he was very upset.
00:38:13.000He was very upset that your father used Facebook to be able to speak to his audience and to be able to generate an audience because this is what Barack Obama had done in 2008 and 2012.
00:38:24.000So the idea that your father had done the same thing, this really got under the skin of the left.
00:38:29.000And so that's really where the censorship campaign started, going after your father, going after MAGA generally, going after AIDS as well.
00:38:39.000And we saw the catastrophic effect, which I describe in the book as well, what happened during COVID when people like Scott Atlas, who was your father's coronavirus advisor, when he was censored, when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about how people can best treat themselves, what they need to have happen. when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about
00:38:57.000And of course, whenever your father talked about COVID back in 2020, whether it's talking about ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, I mean, they wanted to silence him.
00:39:11.000So yes, it's very, very important for us to push through on this, right?
00:39:15.000And it should not be that hard for us, because the problems that they say are presented by social media, it's nonsense.
00:39:48.000When they try to take control over the truth, when they try to take control over language and speech, then they're the only voice out there.
00:39:57.000So sometimes they're telling truths, a lot of the times they're telling lies.
00:40:01.000But if there's no opportunity for other people If we don't have the right to speak, then they're the only people who are speaking.
00:40:09.000That opens it up for all sorts of insane lies.
00:40:12.000And that's what we've been seeing for eight years now.
00:40:17.000Well, Lee, where can people get the book and learn more about it?
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00:42:16.000Now, a new movie about DEI consultants literally has them deleting their social media accounts after being caught on tape pushing the most egregious forms of woke DEI madness.
00:45:22.000I've been watching some of the stuff on social, you know, on the Gram.
00:45:25.000I think they actually have to put you up for like an Academy Award because I don't know how you keep a straight face with some of these people.
00:45:33.000The fact that you can do that is truly a testament to your acting abilities.
00:45:38.000Well, I mean, I've already written my Academy Award acceptance speech, so I don't think I'll ever get a chance to deliver it, but I've already written it.
00:45:46.000And I think one of the other problems, of course, is that the kind of film critic class Has decided to pretend this movie doesn't exist.
00:45:57.000And I think they're going to stick with that.
00:46:27.000I sort of feel like when it comes to gender ideology, you're one of the guys that's out there most, and yet the people that are pushing this nonsense didn't even seem to even get that yet.
00:46:40.000Yeah, well, that was a big question going into it, because, of course, my first movie, What is a Woman?, it came out two years ago now, and we were lucky to have a lot of success with that, so we went to make another film.
00:46:54.000The big question was, is this something that I can do at this point without being recognized by every person I sit down with?
00:47:05.000You know, fortunately, in almost every case, we found that we can do it and that most of these people, they really live in a bubble.
00:47:16.000They kind of operate in this very insulated bubble where it turns out that if you're outside of that bubble, they just don't know anything about you.
00:47:23.000And that's why I say it's interesting from my perspective because I don't think Some left-wing media figure could really pull this off on me and get me into the equivalent of this documentary on the left, because I know who all those people are.
00:48:16.000When you just let them speak, the lunacy speaks for itself.
00:48:20.000I mean, I guess that makes your job a little bit easier.
00:48:21.000You just got to give them a little bit of the rope and they'll sort of proverbially hang themselves.
00:48:27.000What what personally shocked your conscience, though, as you were shooting the movie?
00:48:32.000Was there stuff that was just even beyond what you're used to?
00:48:35.000And you're used to a lot because you've been on the forefront of this for a while.
00:48:38.000I think, you know, I wasn't really shocked by anything.
00:48:43.000You know, the DEI race hustlers themselves, the ones the Robin DiAngelo's of the world, the people that are making all the money and selling all the books.
00:48:51.000There's nothing that they could say that that would shock me all that much because we kind of know what their shtick is.
00:49:00.000So to me, that wasn't terribly shocking.
00:49:02.000The thing that shocked me more was when I saw, I witnessed firsthand, not the race hustlers, but the people that go to the race hustlers and sort of turn to them as these moral gurus.
00:49:16.000And so there are multiple scenes throughout the film where I attend, for example, something called Race to Dinner, where these two DEI people come in and they sit at a dinner table With a bunch of white women, and they tell the white women that they're racist for two hours.
00:49:34.000And those white women pay thousands of dollars for the privilege of being called racist over dinner.
00:49:39.000And that was the thing that was more surprising to me, is to see that the white women sitting at the table, what are they getting out of this?
00:49:46.000Why are they sitting there and enduring this degrading experience?
00:49:52.000So that, to me, is the most shocking thing, is to see how...
00:49:58.000Yeah, I mean, is it just like, you know, sort of the nature of the, like, sort of the cuck mindset of the left?
00:50:07.000Is it just they want to be demeaned that way, that it happens?
00:50:11.000And, you know, really, when you interacted with these activists, you know, is there a difference between the activists and the guys that are just the pure grifters?
00:50:18.000Did you get a sense they actually, you know, believed any of the stuff that they were pushing?
00:50:23.000Or are they just legitimately insane at this point?
00:50:26.000I think it's a little of column A, B, and C on that one, but I do think that, yeah, you do have the pure grifters that are mostly in it for the money, and it's not hard to figure out why they're doing it because of the money and also the influence that they have over people's lives, the power that they have.
00:50:44.000So the grifters, that's, I think, what primarily drives them.
00:50:47.000But Yeah, you do have the true believers.
00:50:50.000They are the ones who are buying the books and going to the race dinners and going to the seminars and willingly subjecting themselves to it.
00:50:57.000And as far as why they do it, I've spent a lot of time Trying to figure that out, you know, diving into this perverse mindset to figure out what they get out of it.
00:51:18.000I think a lot of these and maybe I'm reading too much into it or I'm trying to get to I'm trying to read their minds too much.
00:51:24.000Maybe even giving them too much credit.
00:51:26.000But I do think that at some level, There's a guilt that they have.
00:51:31.000Everybody feels guilt because we all do things that are wrong, but if you're a religious person, if you're a Christian, you have a way of understanding your guilt, and you know what you're supposed to do with it.
00:51:41.000But if you're not religious, and people on the left, they're all mostly godless heathens, they don't have, you know, quote unquote, traditional religion.
00:51:48.000So they have this kind of religious yearning.
00:52:12.000And then they're told at the end of it that, oh, by the way, you're still just as guilty and just as racist as you were when you started because there's no way, there's really no way to ever be free of it.
00:52:20.000That's kind of the nature of the group.
00:52:22.000Can you ever buy enough books to not be racist?
00:52:32.000It was like Greta Thunberg as the high priestess of climate change.
00:52:36.000That flipped over to Anthony Fauci as the god of COVID. And now it's Zelensky in Ukraine.
00:52:42.000And I imagine for a lot of people who may You know, have other problems.
00:52:46.000It's probably this DEI mandate manifesting itself as some sort of guilt, but it's an ever-evolving thing.
00:52:54.000I mean, when you talk about these things, you do talk about it sort of as an affront to a lot of the traditional values, whether it's Christianity, whether it's sort of the basic nuclear family.
00:53:04.000You know, what's the future of the left if that's where they're going?
00:53:10.000You know, again, juxtaposed towards, you know, again, traditional...
00:53:14.000Christianity that you talk about a lot, the values instilled in that, as well as the nuclear family.
00:53:19.000I think, well, there isn't much of a future long-term, and I think in particular with just taking DEI itself for a moment, I think that DEI is, it's certainly dying right now, and that happens,
00:53:37.000this always happens on the left when they have some kind of item on their agenda, some program they're pushing that's really insane and hideous, but they get away with it for a long time because People don't notice it.
00:54:11.000Same thing happened with gender ideology.
00:54:13.000And once that happens, once people notice it and they understand what's going on and they respond, as normal people do, to insanity, they treat it like it's insane, that's when it starts to...
00:54:33.000They're very good at taking an idea that people have rejected and repackaging it and just calling it something else.
00:54:42.000And then they get kind of a second life out of it.
00:54:44.000And so that's what I'm looking for with DEI.
00:54:46.000What is their what's their new name, their new label, their new kind of dressing that they put on this so they can keep keep the griff going?
00:54:55.000Yeah, you know, not so much for DEI, but I noticed, you know, seven, eight years ago when I started, you know, when the trans women in, you know, in sports, you know, started coming out.
00:55:04.000And I was like, where are the soccer moms?
00:55:05.000And even on Twitter back then, when it was, you know, 99% dominated by the left, you know, I'd put something against, you know, a boy playing against young girls in sports, and even there, like, overwhelmingly, I'd read the comments, and they're like...
00:55:46.000Oftentimes, this is certainly the case with gender ideology, is that people didn't understand how widespread and pervasive this actually was.
00:55:53.000And sometimes it's almost like the left benefits from how crazy their ideas are, that the average person hears it, and if they hear it for the first time, they go, okay, but that's not a thing.
00:56:03.000I mean, people don't actually buy that.
00:56:05.000And so you almost just assume, I think it's logically you assume that it must be some fringe thing.
00:56:18.000And then also, and again, this is especially the case with gender ideology, but also with DEI, that people like Most people are polite, and most people are just nice, and they want to get along, and they don't want to be rude, and they don't want to hurt your feelings.
00:56:32.000And so the left's able to exploit that.
00:56:35.000And that's what makes it so insidious.
00:56:36.000They exploit something in people that's good, which is a person's desire to just be polite and nice and not hurt someone's feelings.
00:57:18.000Yeah, I mean, you would think there'd be an endgame, though.
00:57:20.000You know, when I'm watching these suburban mothers and they're like, their daughter lost their scholarship after watching, you know, triple headers of, you know, girl softball for 18 years, you know, you'd think there'd be a point where they're like, you know what, maybe this is too far now.
00:57:33.000We're no longer being just welcoming or inclusive or kind.
00:57:38.000We're really affecting the trajectory of our children's future that we put so much time and effort into, and that's the one I don't understand.
00:57:47.000What's the endgame for the future for them, given, again, how pervasive it did get?
00:57:53.000And although I agree with you that people are finally catching on.
00:58:07.000That's why they use the word dismantle as a positive thing.
00:58:10.000So they want to dismantle, you know, the nuclear family, dismantle the so-called patriarchy.
00:58:15.000They want to redefine, dismantle, destroy.
00:58:20.000They don't have anything to replace it with.
00:58:22.000It's just they know that they don't like this thing because of how it makes them feel and because they blame it for all of their problems and they blame it for all the oppression that they feel they've suffered, even though most of the time they haven't.
00:58:33.000And so they just want to get rid of it.
00:58:35.000They want to destroy it, but they don't really have a positive vision for the future.
00:58:39.000Like, okay, we want to dismantle the nuclear family.
00:58:54.000Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it feels like the state is a big part of pushing a lot of this stuff.
00:58:58.000You see all the, you know, the DEI programs and the veteran administrations, the, you know, the inclusive, again, not just DEI, but, you know, also the gender ideology.
00:59:08.000But you also see it in the corporate side of things.
00:59:12.000You know, I'd like to, why are DEI activists even being brought in for corporate politics?
00:59:21.000Is it a checklist against future discrimination lawsuits that we did these things?
00:59:27.000How is it that corporate America, that's supposed to be a meritocracy, sort of adapts these programs, jams it down people's throats, which seem very contrary to what would be their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders or otherwise?
00:59:45.000I think you landed on the answer there.
00:59:47.000Because we talk about woke corporations and how these corporations are so-called woke, and they are in the way that they behave.
00:59:54.000But I do still think that In business, the thing that these people really care about is making money.
01:00:01.000They wouldn't be in the business in the first place if they didn't want to make money.
01:00:05.000Whether it's Disney or any of these other corporations that we call woke, what they actually care about is making money.
01:00:10.000Now, they get into the DEI stuff because they've been convinced that that's the best way to do it, that this is what they have to do to make money.
01:00:17.000This will be the most profitable path for them.
01:00:20.000But I think they're being proven wrong on that, which is why now you have a whole bunch of corporations that are You know, abandoning their DEI initiatives because they've realized that there's no there's no there's no profit here.
01:00:32.000And all you're really doing is driving out the most qualified people.
01:00:35.000And there's a there are consequences to that.
01:00:38.000And the consequence hurts consequence hurts your bottom line.
01:00:41.000And I think that these corporations like they can only endure that for so long.
01:00:45.000They can only lose money from this stuff for so long before they're you know, before their woke principles kind of go by the wayside.
01:00:52.000Yeah, but it's not just in the hiring process.
01:00:55.000It's also in the people that they're catering to.
01:01:30.000But I think that, and we also have to keep in mind how much money is involved here.
01:01:35.000And you have a company like Disney, for example, just using them, that they, there's so much money, they're making so much money, and they own all of these properties that are near and dear to the hearts of many of the customers that they now hate.
01:01:48.000That gives them a cushion, but at a certain point, I think you have to respond to the marketplace.
01:01:54.000This wasn't Disney, of course, but you look at the latest Joker film that came out, and just utter contempt for their own audience was seeping out of that film, and it completely bombed.
01:02:06.000It was a historic embarrassment at the box office.
01:02:09.000So, you know, the filmmakers involved, the people involved in that, are they going to...
01:02:13.000Will they be thinking about that the next time they're making a movie?
01:02:49.000It's hard to imagine what will happen if we actually have the DEI president.
01:02:56.000If the DEI candidate actually becomes president, then a lot of the progress that I'm talking about, we're making real inroads against the DEI madness.
01:03:04.000We're making huge inroads against gender ideology.
01:03:08.000And if we get a Trump presidency for the next four years, then I'm not going to say that We'll live in a utopia and all of these problems will be gone.
01:03:19.000But we can really put the nail in the coffin of a lot of these things.
01:03:21.000But then if you get the DEI president in there, that's going to give all of this madness that we're fighting back against.
01:03:28.000It's going to give it a second breath, a second life.
01:03:30.000And we just can't allow that to happen.
01:03:52.000If people see this stuff, if people who are on the fence understand that this is the ideology of Kamala Harris and today's Democrat Party, I think it actually makes a difference in the next two weeks.
01:04:02.000Where can they find it so they can see it and they can be reassured that we can put an end to this nonsense once and for all, hopefully.
01:04:23.000It's not only hilarious because it's entertaining for me, but it's actually tackling a real serious subject that is really problematic for the future of our country.
01:04:31.000I love that you're doing it with humor.
01:04:33.000Sometimes that's the best way to be a messenger and just point it out for everyone.
01:04:36.000So, Matt Walsh, thank you for all of that.
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