Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - More Media Hoaxes, They’re as Desperate as Ever. Interviews with Steve Moore, Lee Smith, and Matt Walsh | TRIGGERED Ep.185

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:03:31.000 So this is a book that we just came out with.

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00:03:42.000 Really something, look, standing in front of the church.

00:03:44.000 Very famous photo.

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00:03:47.000 This is your favorite president with the queen.

00:03:54.000 And the cover is actually...

00:03:58.000 That's a cover.

00:06:24.000 Today's going to be a little different.

00:06:25.000 We're going to have three guests, all on different topics, and they're perhaps the three most important issues of this campaign.

00:06:35.000 First off, we're going to talk with economist Steve Moore on the cost of living crisis.

00:06:40.000 The cost of living crisis created by the insane policies of today's Democrat Party, Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, Miracle.

00:06:51.000 Then, we're going to have author and investigative reporter Lee Smith on his new book, Disappearing the President, which tells the next chapter in the swamp's corruption and why Russiagate playbook is still rearing its ugly head once again.

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00:07:08.000 This will be a fun one for you guys.

00:07:09.000 A little less academic, but the producer and star of the new film, Am I Racist?

00:07:18.000 Matt Walsh.

00:07:19.000 Matt Walsh is going to join us to reveal how...

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00:09:01.000 And joining me now, the coauthor of the new book, The Trump Economic Miracle, founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, Steve Moore.

00:09:09.000 Good to have you, Steve.

00:09:10.000 Good to have you back.

00:09:11.000 Thanks, Don.

00:09:12.000 And it's great to be with you.

00:09:13.000 And boy, I just feel the momentum out there right now.

00:09:16.000 It's almost palpable.

00:09:18.000 And so I'm very excited about things.

00:09:21.000 And, you know, our book is just basically for pocketbook issues, for people who are going to vote, you know, based on those kitchen table issues.

00:09:28.000 The book just shows very clearly that Trump is record.

00:09:33.000 I'm just looking at the cold, hard facts.

00:09:35.000 Yeah.

00:09:36.000 His record for middle class Americans, whether it's on jobs, whether it's incomes, whether it's gas prices, whether it's small business conditions, whether it's mortgage rates, it's hard to find a single statistic or measurement where Biden and Harris have outperformed Trump.

00:09:51.000 So I just wanted to get that information out there, and I appreciate you having me on, because people keep saying that the economy is the number one issue, and if it is, then there's no question the guy who's going to save the economy, and that's Donald J. Trump.

00:10:05.000 So, you know, I guess, big picture, what is at stake this November economically for the average American?

00:10:11.000 And what is, you know, the Trump economic miracle that you're writing about?

00:10:15.000 What was his policies?

00:10:17.000 You know, here's a guy who came in.

00:10:19.000 He reduced taxes.

00:10:20.000 And as you know, I work with Art Lapper and Larry Kudlow and a gang of fantastic economists to help put that plan together for President Trump.

00:10:27.000 And he knew what he wanted to do.

00:10:29.000 We just kind of fixed some of the sharp edges on that bill.

00:10:32.000 It was a huge, huge success.

00:10:34.000 The average family saved $2,500 a year.

00:10:37.000 We brought factories and jobs back to the United States.

00:10:40.000 We put us back in the game.

00:10:41.000 Of course, the Deregulation saved the average family about $10,000, according to Casey Mulligan, one of the top economists at University of Chicago.

00:10:51.000 We had better trade deals that made other countries play by the rules.

00:10:55.000 And then, of course, we became the world's largest energy producer when Trump was president.

00:11:01.000 And for the first time in your and my lifetime, we weren't importing oil and gas from other countries.

00:11:06.000 I mean, those are just a few of the things.

00:11:08.000 And the thing is, Don, You know, I love the fact that Trump is now talking about that he's the common sense candidate because he is.

00:11:16.000 I mean, all the things that he's talking about are common sense.

00:11:20.000 They're not ideologically.

00:11:21.000 I mean, he's conservative, but these are just things that most Americans just nod their head and say, yeah, that makes sense.

00:11:26.000 That makes sense.

00:11:27.000 That makes sense.

00:11:28.000 I can't think of a single thing that Kamala Harris has said about the economy that makes any sense at all.

00:11:34.000 I mean, she wants a $5 trillion tax increase. 1.00

00:11:36.000 I can't think of anything she says that makes any sense at all, economically or otherwise.

00:11:41.000 But maybe, you know, talk about that, you know, the impact in real dollars to the average American, just so they understand.

00:11:48.000 Because, you know, again, you know, you and I, we talk about inflation.

00:11:51.000 You know, I think the better word for it is like sort of the Harris-Biden cost of living crisis.

00:11:59.000 Everything's more expensive.

00:12:00.000 It's not just rent.

00:12:01.000 It's not just energy.

00:12:01.000 It's not just food.

00:12:02.000 It's everything across the board.

00:12:05.000 And that means that people are really living in a cost of living crisis.

00:12:08.000 You can't afford to have the same lifestyle that you had four years ago.

00:12:12.000 You know, talk about that impact in real dollars.

00:12:15.000 Well, if you look at the, you know, it's funny because when I'll go on Fox News or some of these other shows and recite the official number, which is the prices are up by 20.1%, people will come up to me and they'll get angry.

00:12:26.000 And I say, why do you keep saying it's only 20.1%?

00:12:29.000 I say, well, that's the official number.

00:12:30.000 And people point out to me correctly, well, wait a minute.

00:12:33.000 My mortgage is up 65%.

00:12:34.000 My food prices are up 25%.

00:12:37.000 My electric utility costs are up 38%.

00:12:40.000 My gas prices are up 35%.

00:12:42.000 So in other words, Don, the things that people have to buy, the essentials, that inflation rate's up 30% to 40%.

00:12:51.000 Meanwhile, wages are up about 18%.

00:12:53.000 So just do the math.

00:12:55.000 That means the average family has lost, by my estimates, about $1,500 to $2,000 since Trump came into office.

00:13:04.000 I mean, since Biden came into office.

00:13:05.000 And that's remarkable because we're supposed to be in a recovery from what happened to COVID, and yet people are poorer today than they were four years ago.

00:13:14.000 Yeah, one of your peers, Paul Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in economics.

00:13:20.000 He goes, no, no, no.

00:13:21.000 Inflation, in other words, the cost of living crisis, is under control.

00:13:24.000 I'm looking at this chart in the New York Times.

00:13:26.000 I'm saying, what is he talking about?

00:13:27.000 And then I see the asterisk.

00:13:29.000 And it says, as long as you don't include housing...

00:13:34.000 Transportation, food, and energy.

00:13:36.000 I'm saying, you know what?

00:13:38.000 I've been pretty blessed, but like for the average American, what else is there?

00:13:43.000 So you're saying housing, food, energy, and transportation are a total disaster.

00:13:46.000 They're through the roof.

00:13:47.000 But if you take those out of the equation, you should be thrilled living like a pauper. 0.99

00:13:53.000 I mean, these people are insane.

00:13:56.000 So, you know, I was especially angry when I saw, I think it was a week ago, the Wall Street Journal had this piece, of course, they put it on the front page, that they surveyed 50 economists.

00:14:05.000 I don't know who these economists are.

00:14:07.000 And they said, well, Kamala Harris will be better than Trump on inflation.

00:14:11.000 And I'm, what?

00:14:12.000 What are you talking about? 1.00

00:14:13.000 What kind of an idiot would say that? 1.00

00:14:15.000 I mean, the inflation rate when Trump was president for the four years was 1.9%. 1.00

00:14:20.000 And that's below the As you know, the inflation target that the Fed sets at 2%, so we're below their target.

00:14:27.000 The average inflation rate for Kamala Harris and Joe Biden in the last four years has been about 6.5%, so three times higher.

00:14:36.000 So how could anyone look at those numbers and say, well, gee, it's like saying, this guy struck out the last four times he's come to bat, then this guy hit three home runs in the last four times he's come to bat, but we think we're going to bring up the guy who struck out every time.

00:14:50.000 I mean, that's certainly an analogy that I can think of.

00:14:53.000 Yeah, he's due finally, maybe, right?

00:14:56.000 You know, I guess I'd ask, you know, my father did a lot as it relates to deregulation.

00:15:01.000 You know, freeing up those things, getting rid of some of the inefficiencies, the bloat, the bureaucracy that really stops progress and ultimately the growth that you need to grow out of so many of the problems that have been caused.

00:15:14.000 Where should we be deregulating?

00:15:16.000 So I'm so pleased.

00:15:18.000 I think one of the great assets for Donald Trump in this election has been Elon Musk.

00:15:23.000 Don't you think he's been amazing?

00:15:24.000 Yeah, it's been amazing.

00:15:25.000 Yeah, and he's just, I saw him over the weekend, and he, I mean, he just crystallizes things so well.

00:15:31.000 And he said, look, I've put satellites up in the orbit, you know.

00:15:35.000 And I do it with private money, no government money. 0.97

00:15:38.000 And now these idiot regulators are saying, well, maybe you shouldn't put them up in the air because these satellites might... 0.99

00:15:44.000 Have you heard about this? 0.99

00:15:45.000 The satellites might fall into the ocean and they might hit a dolphin or a whale.

00:15:49.000 And I mean, he's...

00:15:51.000 It's so preposterous because he could put up 100,000 satellites in the air and the idea that somehow even one of them would ever fall on a shark or a whale is one in a thousand. 0.92

00:16:06.000 So it's a ridiculous regulation.

00:16:08.000 And what he should have said, by the way, that is, wait a minute, the things that are killing sharks and whales are these offshore windmills that are, we see the whales, you know, being, you You know, being killed by these and sweeping up on the beaches. 0.53

00:16:23.000 Why don't we go after those?

00:16:25.000 Not his satellites that are really revolutionizing and bringing us into the digital and technology age.

00:16:34.000 How do you think my father stopped at McDonald's?

00:16:37.000 You saw that on Sunday.

00:16:39.000 How does that tie directly into this economic message?

00:16:43.000 What's the symbolism there for the average American?

00:16:47.000 Well, you know, Donald Trump has really made the Republican Party the working class, middle class party.

00:16:53.000 And I love that about him.

00:16:55.000 By the way, you know, I've had arguments with the president.

00:16:58.000 I don't always agree with everything he says.

00:16:59.000 I agree with about 80 percent of it.

00:17:01.000 And I think he's been amazing in terms of his performance.

00:17:05.000 But he just has the common man's touch.

00:17:08.000 And you know this 100 times better than I do because you've been around your father, you know, for your whole life.

00:17:13.000 But the few times that I've been around him in those settings, one of the things that first impressed me, Don, when I first met your father back in January of 2020, and it just struck a chord with me was how he treats people.

00:17:26.000 Yeah.

00:17:26.000 You know, you can really tell someone About someone by the way they treat the people that work for them.

00:17:31.000 He treats service workers.

00:17:34.000 He treats the Secret Service people.

00:17:35.000 He treats everyone with great respect.

00:17:39.000 And that's amazing talent that Trump, he makes everyone feel special.

00:17:46.000 No, I think without question.

00:17:48.000 It's a side he often doesn't show.

00:17:50.000 I think, you know, when he's trying to negotiate with Xi and Putin, he only puts up the hard edge.

00:17:55.000 But the reality, you know, I got in trouble for it like 20 years ago when I was the first person to coin him sort of the blue collar billionaire.

00:18:02.000 But the reality is like, that's who he is.

00:18:04.000 Like, that's actually who he is.

00:18:06.000 He doesn't always show that side.

00:18:07.000 He created an aura around being a Manhattan billionaire, but he's a regular guy at heart in so many ways.

00:18:14.000 Well, the funny thing, too, about the McDonald's experience was that, you know, the CEO of McDonald's said, we have no record of Kamala Harris ever working for McDonald's.

00:18:23.000 That was her one year of business experience.

00:18:25.000 And, you know, my response to that is, what kind of a loser has to put on their resume, lie on their resume about working one year at McDonald's?

00:18:33.000 But this is a serious point, though, because There's a huge difference between, just put ideology aside.

00:18:40.000 We may, as Americans, disagree on the issues, and that's fine.

00:18:44.000 We're America.

00:18:44.000 We often disagree.

00:18:46.000 But you've got Donald Trump, who's built great businesses.

00:18:49.000 He's employed, I don't know, thousands, tens of thousands of people.

00:18:52.000 He's met payroll.

00:18:53.000 He's made profits for shareholders.

00:18:55.000 Kamala has never worked out.

00:18:57.000 For a business.

00:18:58.000 We thought she had one year business experience at McDonald's, but we don't even have verification of that.

00:19:03.000 So she's a lifetime politician and he's a businessman.

00:19:06.000 I mean, you know, who are you going to choose?

00:19:09.000 Yeah.

00:19:10.000 Steve, I'd be remiss though if I didn't, you know, obviously she'll lie about anything to try to, you know, ingratiate herself to regular people, but she's not a regular person. 0.98

00:19:16.000 She's, you know, I know they like to call us weird, but you listen to her laugh, you listen to the commentary, you listen to the lies, you look at her VP choice and you realize there's never been a weirder, you know, candidate set out there.

00:19:29.000 But, you know, since we have you and we're talking about economics, I do have to ask you about the Fed.

00:19:35.000 How many more dollars Can America print before it's just a catastrophe?

00:19:41.000 I mean, are we already past the Rubicon on this one?

00:19:44.000 I mean, I've never seen anything like it.

00:19:46.000 It's insane.

00:19:47.000 And it's not like it's funding things that are actually going to be beneficial to America.

00:19:51.000 Where are we with that?

00:19:53.000 And how do we stop it?

00:19:54.000 And, you know, is there still a component of, you know, almost regardless of who wins, even if it's Trump, are you still paying the piper for some of these decisions that have been so disastrous over the last four years?

00:20:04.000 Of course, because the second biggest expenditure item now, you know this, even bigger than our national defense, it's just interest on the debt that mostly Biden has racked up.

00:20:04.000 Yeah.

00:20:14.000 And so that is a big problem.

00:20:17.000 But I'm not going to blame that on the Fed.

00:20:19.000 I mean, they have some blame because the Fed accommodated the massive deficits by Biden.

00:20:24.000 Well, they got political.

00:20:25.000 They made it political.

00:20:26.000 They chose a horse.

00:20:28.000 They're not doing what for the American people.

00:20:30.000 They're trying to sway an election and they're trying to, you know, artificially bolster an economy to make it seem like, you know, the incompetent policies of the Democrat Party are somehow good for America.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, no, you're exactly right about that.

00:20:43.000 You know, the fact that they did a 50 basis point decline in the interest rates, they waited, what, two or three years to do that, and then they do it on the eve of an election.

00:20:53.000 And Jerome Powell, sanctimoniously, always talks about how we can't make the, you know, the Fed political.

00:20:59.000 That was one of the most political moves ever in the history of the Fed.

00:21:03.000 And by the way, the next Fed meeting, do you know what it is, Don?

00:21:06.000 It's the day after the election.

00:21:08.000 Maybe they could have waited a few weeks to do that so they're not intervening, but of course they are putting their thumb on the scale in favor of Kamala Harris because, you know, they know that Donald Trump is going to put in new people at the Fed, and I think we do need We do need people.

00:21:08.000 Of course it is.

00:21:23.000 But we also need, you know, we need a Congress that is going to get control of spending.

00:21:28.000 And that's why I go back to Elon Musk.

00:21:31.000 I love, love his idea of an efficiency, redundancy, waste commission.

00:21:38.000 You know what job I want if Trump wins?

00:21:41.000 I want to be the executive director of that commission.

00:21:44.000 And we're going to go through every nook and cranny of the government.

00:21:46.000 I think, Don, I really believe we could come up with $1 trillion of savings And Americans wouldn't even feel it.

00:21:53.000 Oh yeah, well, Elon did that at Twitter, right?

00:21:55.000 He cut 80% of the workforce and it functioned better.

00:21:59.000 Like, you know, imagine you put that to scale at the government.

00:22:02.000 I mean, I think a trillion dollars, you just, man, it's probably more than that.

00:22:06.000 And you compound that over generations.

00:22:08.000 And again, the inefficiency, the bloat, the bureaucracy, I think it would just be incredible.

00:22:15.000 Steve, tell us again about the book, where they can get it, where people can learn more so that they can check it out and try to educate themselves in the last two weeks of this thing.

00:22:23.000 Well, as you know, Arthur Laffermer, my co-author, the most famous economist in the world, and I served with great pride for Donald Trump in his first term in terms of helping advise him.

00:22:37.000 And so when we went to him with this book idea, because we wrote a book five years ago called Trumponomics and how it worked.

00:22:43.000 Yeah.

00:22:46.000 President Trump, all these charts about how much better the economy goes.

00:22:50.000 And then he said, what are you guys going to call this?

00:22:50.000 Yeah, I love this.

00:22:52.000 And we said, well, we're going to probably call it Trumponomics 2.0, because we wrote Trumponomics 1.0.

00:22:57.000 And he said, no, I don't like that.

00:22:58.000 Call it the Trump Economic Miracle.

00:23:00.000 So he came up with the title himself.

00:23:02.000 He's pretty good at that stuff, yeah.

00:23:03.000 We looked at each other and said, that's a good title.

00:23:06.000 And so it really is just a...

00:23:08.000 And by the way, people can read this for two or three nights.

00:23:10.000 Go to Amazon.

00:23:11.000 And you don't necessarily have to buy it for yourself, but it's a good way to be knowledgeable about the issues.

00:23:17.000 But what I want people to do is give it to any undecided voter you know.

00:23:21.000 We still have 10% of voters who are undecided.

00:23:24.000 If you have a neighbor or a family member or a colleague at work who I can't decide, give them this book.

00:23:30.000 It makes the case concretely.

00:23:34.000 Or read it yourself and tell them if they're too lazy to do it on their own because we've got to do everything we can between now and Election Day, right?

00:23:40.000 You got it.

00:23:41.000 Well, Steve, appreciate it.

00:23:43.000 Great having you back on.

00:23:44.000 Look forward to talking to you soon and look forward to maybe getting you in to head up that task force because I think there's a lot of great stuff we can do.

00:23:51.000 Tell the President that's what I want to do.

00:23:52.000 You always ask me, Steve, what do you want to do?

00:23:53.000 I may want that job.

00:23:54.000 That's what I want to do.

00:23:57.000 Well, I appreciate it, man.

00:23:58.000 Thanks a lot and good luck with everything.

00:24:00.000 Thank you.

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00:25:25.000 Now, as we've covered on this show day in and day out, the 2024 election may be our last real chance to end the lawfare and corruption once and for all.

00:25:35.000 We've seen how U.S. intelligence agencies have turned their tools against we the people and how a rogue cabal of bureaucrats will do anything to stop my father and the MAGA movement from taking back power.

00:25:49.000 Because, folks, they know they are one day closer from being exposed like never before.

00:25:56.000 The stakes are high.

00:25:57.000 The hour is late.

00:25:58.000 And it's why your voice matters more than ever.

00:26:03.000 Well, guys, joining me now, journalist and author of The Plot Against the President, the new book, Disappears.

00:26:10.000 Disappearing the President, Lee Smith.

00:26:13.000 Lee, how's it going, man?

00:26:14.000 Thanks very much for inviting me on today.

00:26:15.000 It's great to see you and great to talk with you.

00:26:18.000 Well, thank you for all you're doing and thanks for joining.

00:26:21.000 First of all, I'd like to talk about the title of this book, Disappearing the President.

00:26:26.000 I loved the plot against the president originally back in, I guess, probably 2020 when that came out.

00:26:33.000 But What an ominous but probably accurate title.

00:26:38.000 Talk about where the book started for you, what you found, you know, and what changed in sort of the evolution of you talking about My Father's Presidency.

00:26:45.000 Well, I mean, I think that what we've seen is, I mean, this is really disappearing.

00:26:45.000 Right.

00:26:49.000 The president's really kind of an encyclopedic account of what we've seen since 2016 up through, you know, on the cover, there's the picture of your father getting up at Butler, Pennsylvania after he's shot and saying, fight, fight, fight.

00:27:04.000 So that's really what this is about.

00:27:06.000 Again, the encyclopedic account, what's gone into this, who's been part of this operation, Against your father, against his aides, against his supporters, against the Republic.

00:27:16.000 So that's really what's going on.

00:27:18.000 And the title refers to what happened mostly in Latin America in the 70s and 80s, when the intelligence services turned against the opposition and basically how they disappeared, the opposition.

00:27:32.000 And your father, as I describe in the book, your father is...

00:27:37.000 the leading dissident of the free world.

00:27:40.000 And I describe him throughout the book as the leader of the opposition.

00:27:44.000 I think it's important not only for the United States, but insofar as, again, he's also the leading spokesman for freedom of speech.

00:27:51.000 So this is important, of course, for us, for Americans, but across the world as well, what he stands for, freedom of speech, and being part, being the leader of such an important opposition movement, which is really how I understand your father's role over the last eight years at least. which is really how I understand your father's role over So, I mean, the book exposes really how a network of powerful left-wing activists has waged a years-long scorched-earth war to eradicate the notion of America first.

00:28:20.000 I mean, I don't know what the problem with America first is, but apparently they do. 0.99

00:28:24.000 And ultimately, my father's influence.

00:28:27.000 Why is that?

00:28:28.000 What is it about my father that has these people losing their minds every single day?

00:28:33.000 I mean, we saw just recently with your father at McDonald's, I mean, why people would go crazy about this.

00:28:39.000 But it's just such an American thing, and it's beautiful.

00:28:42.000 And the people who respect and admire your father, you saw the stuff they've been posting on social media.

00:28:49.000 I mean, it's just lovely.

00:28:50.000 It's so American.

00:28:52.000 I think that's the major part of it.

00:28:54.000 I think that we're talking about people who don't like this country.

00:28:57.000 We know them all the time.

00:28:59.000 Unfortunately, it's millions and millions of people.

00:29:02.000 We're used to seeing them on college campuses, and we're used to seeing them on left-wing television.

00:29:08.000 Unfortunately, there's a lot of these people who have also played very prominent roles in our government.

00:29:13.000 Over the last several decades.

00:29:14.000 And I think that's really one of the most important things about disappearing the president.

00:29:18.000 Again, it's an encyclopedic account of the way of how your father has been targeted.

00:29:25.000 Surveillance, censorship, political violence, of course, but also identify the people who are driving this campaign.

00:29:33.000 And it's not just a deep state.

00:29:36.000 It's not the system.

00:29:37.000 It's not an abstraction.

00:29:38.000 Your father identified Your father identified it as early as March 2017, if not before.

00:29:45.000 When he tweeted out, he said, you know, wow, I just heard that.

00:29:48.000 I just found out that Barack Obama wiretapped me, had me wiretapped at Trump Tower.

00:29:54.000 And so your father really identified the issue right there.

00:29:57.000 And that's what this book is about.

00:29:59.000 It's really showing the hand of his predecessor, how he's been targeting Donald Trump for eight years.

00:30:07.000 Talk about that a little bit more.

00:30:10.000 Can you talk about the revolving door and the relationship between the intelligence community, big tech, all of these fake NGOs, which is basically the government's way of money laundering to do what they want, but in a way that's not audited by the American public.

00:30:26.000 They give these NGOs money, they go function as essentially governmental entities, all left-wing.

00:30:33.000 How does that network operate?

00:30:35.000 And how does the media enable their corruption?

00:30:38.000 Because that's all it is at this point.

00:30:39.000 Well, I mean, the media won't talk about it, right?

00:30:41.000 I mean, one of the things, for instance, the media won't talk about, I mean, Barack Obama is the first president who stayed in Washington since Woodrow Wilson 100 years ago.

00:30:52.000 And Wilson had a stroke, of course.

00:30:53.000 He was incapacitated the last 18 months of his presidency.

00:30:57.000 So some of the times the media is making stuff up, and other times it's by omission that it's covering things up.

00:31:04.000 But it's fascinating that you talk about the revolving door with big tech, the intelligence services and political operatives.

00:31:13.000 And we actually saw this start, especially during Obama's second term, going back and forth between Washington, D.C. and Palo Alto.

00:31:22.000 And then after your father was elected, we saw this start to happen with the intelligence services, FBI, CIA, dozens, hundreds of people at Facebook, at Twitter.

00:31:34.000 at places like Reddit, places like Airbnb, It's just astonishing.

00:31:41.000 So how the government has infiltrated big tech platforms, and it's no mystery then why we've seen surveillance, why we've seen censorship, because that's what they've done.

00:31:54.000 The government and the intelligence services have infiltrated these private industries as well as...

00:32:01.000 As well as other institutions, including Wall Street.

00:32:05.000 What did you learn about how all of this impacts our election process?

00:32:09.000 Obviously, we're less than two weeks out.

00:32:14.000 And why is it that the ones screaming about protecting democracy seem to be the same ones working almost tirelessly to totally undermine it at all costs?

00:32:24.000 Right.

00:32:25.000 I mean, of course, we know now that whenever we hear democracy come out of their mouths, I mean, it always comes with scare quotes, right?

00:32:31.000 They don't really mean democracy.

00:32:32.000 What they're talking about is basically their own regime, right?

00:32:38.000 They've divided the country in half.

00:32:41.000 What they're talking about is they're talking about their privileges and their prerogatives, and that's what they're worried about.

00:32:47.000 That is the key thing that they're worried about.

00:32:51.000 And we see it's we're living in a virtually Orwellian time when you hear them talk about how rights are being violated by asking the California law where it's illegal to ask for voter ID.

00:33:04.000 Right.

00:33:05.000 This is absolutely absurd.

00:33:07.000 But the people who are capable of seeing through this and more and more people are capable of seeing through it.

00:33:13.000 And that's why I think there is such an enormous groundswell behind your father right now.

00:33:20.000 I got the chance to speak to him at Mar-a-Lago.

00:33:22.000 Such a wonderful such a wonderful opportunity.

00:33:26.000 And he explained, he said, you know, I mean, the spirit is bigger here in 2024 than it was in 2016 or 2020.

00:33:33.000 And I think that's a lot of what's happening.

00:33:35.000 There's an awakening here.

00:33:37.000 There's an understanding of how people are trying to hurt the country and who's standing up for the country and what your father represents, represents to all Americans.

00:33:47.000 It's not just rightist or leftist.

00:33:47.000 Right.

00:33:49.000 We've seen different people.

00:33:50.000 Join forces with your father, whether it's Elon Musk, whether it's RFK Jr., Tulsi Gabbard.

00:33:56.000 So it's really an impressive moment, I think.

00:34:00.000 And that's something else the book really captures.

00:34:05.000 The history of what's happening here.

00:34:08.000 Just really an amazing moment.

00:34:10.000 And that's what's exciting, I think, about going into this election.

00:34:14.000 All the hope that people now have, right?

00:34:17.000 When they're talking about health, when RFK Jr.

00:34:19.000 is talking about health, how we're going to get people healthy again, how they're going to be eating again.

00:34:23.000 And, you know, your father out there at McDonald's doing this kind of work.

00:34:29.000 It's like making people...

00:34:29.000 RFK may have a hard time with that one, but I am...

00:34:32.000 I've seen him scarf down a burger or two, so everything in moderation, right?

00:34:37.000 I mean, the big thing was that he was working there and showing people whenever they say, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do, whatever it is.

00:34:46.000 I mean, of course, you treat Americans like human beings.

00:34:51.000 You give them a fair wage, and you talk to them about the dignity of work, and this is one of the things that your father reminded people of.

00:34:58.000 And so I think there's such a tremendous optimism going in.

00:35:03.000 And we're all worried.

00:35:04.000 We're all concerned because we saw what happened in 2020.

00:35:07.000 We saw what happened with the ballots.

00:35:09.000 We saw what happened with the fraud.

00:35:11.000 But I think that people are concerned, obviously, about that now, too.

00:35:16.000 But the optimism going in and the hopefulness, I mean, it's a tremendous reawakening for the country.

00:35:22.000 And again, I think that's something that's...

00:35:25.000 Captured and disappearing the president, as well as the ongoing campaign against your father, against the America First movement in general.

00:35:36.000 Lee, the subtitle of the book was sort of interesting.

00:35:38.000 I found it kind of fascinating.

00:35:39.000 It's Trump, Truth Social, and the Fight for the Republic.

00:35:43.000 What did you find out about Truth Social and the business side of this story?

00:35:47.000 I mean, the business side of the story is, of course, really exciting.

00:35:47.000 Yeah.

00:35:50.000 And one of the points I make, this is one of the guys at Truth Social who said, he said, yeah, now Donald Trump is a tech startup billionaire.

00:35:58.000 In addition to everything else that he's done, I'm like, yeah.

00:36:00.000 Yeah.

00:36:01.000 And he says in the book, he said elsewhere as well, that it's exciting how well it's doing and exciting the amount of money that the company has made.

00:36:12.000 But what's really important is that this is his voice.

00:36:15.000 So the book pays a lot of attention to January 6th, and that was banished from social media, banished from Twitter, banished from Facebook immediately right after January 6th.

00:36:26.000 And so he was looking for a way to address Americans.

00:36:30.000 He explains how he had so much to say and so many people wanted to hear from him.

00:36:34.000 And Truth Social is that.

00:36:36.000 It's his voice.

00:36:37.000 But it's more than that, too.

00:36:39.000 Truth Social is really sort of the backstop.

00:36:41.000 We're all very excited about what's happened with Twitter online.

00:36:45.000 under Elon Musk with his ownership.

00:36:47.000 But a lot of all of this is really made possible by Truth Social and the work your father did and the rest of the Truth Social team over there to make sure that people have an opportunity to speak to one another, to engage with your father.

00:37:01.000 This was always the thing that people love so much about Twitter, the idea that your father was out there all the time.

00:37:06.000 He's speaking with other people.

00:37:08.000 There were different friends of mine who were talking about Russiagate, and they would be retweeted by your father, and they would just lose their minds.

00:37:14.000 I mean, it made their months.

00:37:16.000 Yeah, well, I mean, with disappearing the president, I mean, without Elon...

00:37:20.000 That certainly would have happened.

00:37:21.000 So, you know, you had to be able to, they canceled the most powerful man in the world, totally took away that platform.

00:37:27.000 So you had to create something else.

00:37:28.000 Now, thank God Elon's in there.

00:37:29.000 So we have a little bit of everything.

00:37:31.000 I imagine none of these things would be getting out if it wasn't for Elon as well.

00:37:35.000 But, you know...

00:37:37.000 Talk a little bit about that, the threat of censorship.

00:37:39.000 Can we stop it once and for all?

00:37:41.000 Is that a bridge too far?

00:37:45.000 Where are we in that fight right now, in your opinion?

00:37:48.000 Absolutely, we can stop it.

00:37:50.000 We have to go after certain nodules.

00:37:54.000 I hope I'm not being too repetitive, but I want to say really the censorship campaign, the way that this really started was immediately after your father's his first election in 2016.

00:38:05.000 What happened was when Barack Obama pulled aside Mark Zuckerberg at a conference in Lima, Peru, he was very upset.

00:38:13.000 He was very upset that your father used Facebook to be able to speak to his audience and to be able to generate an audience because this is what Barack Obama had done in 2008 and 2012.

00:38:24.000 So the idea that your father had done the same thing, this really got under the skin of the left.

00:38:29.000 And so that's really where the censorship campaign started, going after your father, going after MAGA generally, going after AIDS as well.

00:38:39.000 well.

00:38:39.000 And we saw the catastrophic effect, which I describe in the book as well, what happened during COVID when people like Scott Atlas, who was your father's coronavirus advisor, when he was censored, when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about how people can best treat themselves, what they need to have happen. when they wouldn't let him put forth his information about

00:38:57.000 And of course, whenever your father talked about COVID back in 2020, whether it's talking about ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine, I mean, they wanted to silence him.

00:39:11.000 So yes, it's very, very important for us to push through on this, right?

00:39:15.000 And it should not be that hard for us, because the problems that they say are presented by social media, it's nonsense.

00:39:22.000 We've always had these problems.

00:39:24.000 The point of the First Amendment, right, it's not to ensure the truth.

00:39:29.000 This is a lie that a lot of them are telling.

00:39:31.000 It's not to ensure the truth.

00:39:32.000 It's to make sure the state does not have the monopoly on speech, right?

00:39:37.000 I don't want to tell fiction.

00:39:39.000 If they're the arbiters of truth, they've been the largest peddlers of misinformation to begin with.

00:39:46.000 That's precisely what happens.

00:39:48.000 When they try to take control over the truth, when they try to take control over language and speech, then they're the only voice out there.

00:39:57.000 So sometimes they're telling truths, a lot of the times they're telling lies.

00:40:01.000 But if there's no opportunity for other people If we don't have the right to speak, then they're the only people who are speaking.

00:40:09.000 That opens it up for all sorts of insane lies.

00:40:12.000 And that's what we've been seeing for eight years now.

00:40:17.000 Well, Lee, where can people get the book and learn more about it?

00:40:20.000 Well, thanks.

00:40:21.000 From the publisher directly, Encounter Books.

00:40:24.000 Of course, also, you can pre-order right now on Amazon and Barnes& Noble, too.

00:40:30.000 And I always like to encourage people to use their local independent booksellers if they can.

00:40:35.000 But again, they can order directly from the publisher Encounter Books, Amazon and Barnes& Noble.

00:40:42.000 Well, Lee Smith, thank you very much.

00:40:43.000 Everyone, go check out Disappearing the President.

00:40:46.000 I think you'll like it.

00:40:47.000 And it's all about getting informed and making sure we understand exactly what we're up against this fight.

00:40:52.000 Really appreciate it.

00:40:52.000 Thanks again, Lee.

00:40:53.000 Thank you so much, Don.

00:40:54.000 Really appreciate it.

00:40:56.000 And coming up, am I a racist?

00:41:00.000 filmmaker Matt Walsh.

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00:42:16.000 Now, a new movie about DEI consultants literally has them deleting their social media accounts after being caught on tape pushing the most egregious forms of woke DEI madness.

00:42:32.000 And it is absolute madness.

00:42:33.000 It's all uncovered in a new film called Am I Racist?

00:42:38.000 by Matt Walsh.

00:42:39.000 And here is just a snippet of what he exposed.

00:42:43.000 Check this out.

00:42:44.000 Let's be clear, what's happening in this country, it's Nazism. 0.98

00:42:48.000 Republicans are Nazis. 0.99

00:42:49.000 You cannot separate yourselves from the bad white people. 1.00

00:42:53.000 Growing up in the 90s, I never thought much about race. 0.53

00:42:57.000 Sure, you noticed, but it never really seemed to matter that much, at least not to me.

00:43:01.000 Being a white, straight, cisgender man, it's the top of the pile. 1.00

00:43:04.000 I'm on the top of the pile.

00:43:05.000 That's me.

00:43:06.000 Am I racist?

00:43:07.000 I would really appreciate it if you left.

00:43:09.000 I'm on this journey.

00:43:09.000 I'm trying to learn.

00:43:10.000 Can you please leave?

00:43:12.000 I'm gonna sort this out.

00:43:13.000 I need to go deeper undercover.

00:43:15.000 If I want to be an ally, I need to look like one.

00:43:17.000 What is racism?

00:43:25.000 Martin Luther King said not to judge people by the...

00:43:27.000 Martin Luther King said a lot of stuff.

00:43:29.000 Is America inherently racist?

00:43:31.000 What the hell is that?

00:43:31.000 The word inherent is challenging there.

00:43:34.000 America is racist to its bones. 0.95

00:43:36.000 All of the... 0.98

00:43:37.000 So inherently.

00:43:37.000 Yeah.

00:43:38.000 The entire system has to burn.

00:43:40.000 And I'm not going to even use save this country.

00:43:41.000 This country is not worth saving. 1.00

00:43:42.000 This country is a piece of shit. 1.00

00:43:46.000 Oh, sorry. 1.00

00:43:48.000 Sorry.

00:43:51.000 Joining us now is Matt, certified DEI expert.

00:43:54.000 Here's my certification.

00:43:55.000 Where are you guys in your anti-racist journeys?

00:43:59.000 So look around the room and point to who we believe is the most racist person in the room.

00:44:06.000 We want to rename the George Washington Monument to the George Floyd Monument.

00:44:09.000 Would you mind signing it?

00:44:10.000 You will?

00:44:11.000 What do you think about this issue of heteronormativity and how it intersects with the broader structures of racism in society?

00:44:19.000 What's up with white people? 0.93

00:44:23.000 What are you doing to decenter your whiteness? 0.98

00:44:26.000 Why are they doing that?

00:44:26.000 Who's making it the center?

00:44:27.000 And what you're doing is you're stretching out of your whiteness.

00:44:31.000 This is more for you in this field. 0.59

00:44:34.000 White folks. 1.00

00:44:34.000 White trash. 1.00

00:44:35.000 White supremacy. 1.00

00:44:36.000 White woman. 1.00

00:44:36.000 White boy. 1.00

00:44:37.000 White entitlement. 0.97

00:44:38.000 Centering. 0.93

00:44:38.000 White. 0.93

00:44:39.000 Is there a black person around her? 0.99

00:44:39.000 Silence. 0.99

00:44:40.000 There's a black person right here. 0.99

00:44:42.000 Does he not exist? 0.95

00:44:44.000 They gon' say I'm racist, but they call everybody racist.

00:44:48.000 Hi.

00:44:48.000 Hi, Robin.

00:44:49.000 And what's your name?

00:44:50.000 I'm Matt.

00:44:51.000 Matt.

00:44:51.000 Hi, Matt.

00:44:52.000 Thanks to nature.

00:44:53.000 I just had to ask who you are because you have to be careful.

00:44:58.000 Never be too careful.

00:44:59.000 They gon' say you racist, but they call everybody racist.

00:45:03.000 Joining me now, star and producer of Am I Racist, Matt Walsh.

00:45:14.000 Matt, good to have you with us here today.

00:45:17.000 Great to be here.

00:45:17.000 Thanks for having me.

00:45:18.000 Really appreciate it.

00:45:19.000 Well, listen, it's my pleasure.

00:45:22.000 I've been watching some of the stuff on social, you know, on the Gram.

00:45:25.000 I think they actually have to put you up for like an Academy Award because I don't know how you keep a straight face with some of these people.

00:45:33.000 The fact that you can do that is truly a testament to your acting abilities.

00:45:38.000 Well, I mean, I've already written my Academy Award acceptance speech, so I don't think I'll ever get a chance to deliver it, but I've already written it.

00:45:46.000 And I think one of the other problems, of course, is that the kind of film critic class Has decided to pretend this movie doesn't exist.

00:45:57.000 And I think they're going to stick with that.

00:45:59.000 That's been their strategy.

00:46:01.000 I think they're probably going to see it through.

00:46:03.000 Well, I mean, they do that a lot, but I don't think it matters.

00:46:07.000 I think they've discredited themselves so badly, it's just sort of allowed for the rise of other forms of getting it out there.

00:46:13.000 So, I mean, just congrats on all of it.

00:46:15.000 I think it's going so viral.

00:46:16.000 It was going viral before it was even out.

00:46:18.000 But I want to start by asking, you know, During the production process, how did that start for you?

00:46:25.000 How were you able to pull that off?

00:46:27.000 I sort of feel like when it comes to gender ideology, you're one of the guys that's out there most, and yet the people that are pushing this nonsense didn't even seem to even get that yet.

00:46:40.000 Yeah, well, that was a big question going into it, because, of course, my first movie, What is a Woman?, it came out two years ago now, and we were lucky to have a lot of success with that, so we went to make another film.

00:46:54.000 The big question was, is this something that I can do at this point without being recognized by every person I sit down with?

00:47:02.000 And what we found is that...

00:47:05.000 You know, fortunately, in almost every case, we found that we can do it and that most of these people, they really live in a bubble.

00:47:16.000 They kind of operate in this very insulated bubble where it turns out that if you're outside of that bubble, they just don't know anything about you.

00:47:23.000 And that's why I say it's interesting from my perspective because I don't think Some left-wing media figure could really pull this off on me and get me into the equivalent of this documentary on the left, because I know who all those people are.

00:47:41.000 I don't really like them.

00:47:42.000 I don't agree with them, but I pay attention to what the left is saying, so I know who their people are.

00:47:47.000 I listen to what they have to say, because I want to know what my opponents think.

00:47:52.000 But it's interesting that on the left, they don't operate that way.

00:47:55.000 If you don't agree with them, they don't care what you think.

00:47:58.000 They're not paying attention to you.

00:48:00.000 And that puts them at a disadvantage because they get easily blindsided in these kinds of situations.

00:48:05.000 Yeah, I mean, I think it all really sort of exposes just how much of the, let's call it like the DEI economy, because that's all it is.

00:48:12.000 It seems like a big grift.

00:48:13.000 But it's really like a self-parody.

00:48:16.000 When you just let them speak, the lunacy speaks for itself.

00:48:20.000 I mean, I guess that makes your job a little bit easier.

00:48:21.000 You just got to give them a little bit of the rope and they'll sort of proverbially hang themselves.

00:48:27.000 What what personally shocked your conscience, though, as you were shooting the movie?

00:48:32.000 Was there stuff that was just even beyond what you're used to?

00:48:35.000 And you're used to a lot because you've been on the forefront of this for a while.

00:48:38.000 I think, you know, I wasn't really shocked by anything.

00:48:43.000 You know, the DEI race hustlers themselves, the ones the Robin DiAngelo's of the world, the people that are making all the money and selling all the books.

00:48:51.000 There's nothing that they could say that that would shock me all that much because we kind of know what their shtick is.

00:49:00.000 So to me, that wasn't terribly shocking.

00:49:02.000 The thing that shocked me more was when I saw, I witnessed firsthand, not the race hustlers, but the people that go to the race hustlers and sort of turn to them as these moral gurus.

00:49:16.000 And so there are multiple scenes throughout the film where I attend, for example, something called Race to Dinner, where these two DEI people come in and they sit at a dinner table With a bunch of white women, and they tell the white women that they're racist for two hours.

00:49:34.000 And those white women pay thousands of dollars for the privilege of being called racist over dinner. 1.00

00:49:39.000 And that was the thing that was more surprising to me, is to see that the white women sitting at the table, what are they getting out of this? 1.00

00:49:46.000 Why are they sitting there and enduring this degrading experience?

00:49:52.000 So that, to me, is the most shocking thing, is to see how...

00:49:58.000 Yeah, I mean, is it just like, you know, sort of the nature of the, like, sort of the cuck mindset of the left?

00:50:07.000 Is it just they want to be demeaned that way, that it happens?

00:50:11.000 And, you know, really, when you interacted with these activists, you know, is there a difference between the activists and the guys that are just the pure grifters?

00:50:18.000 Did you get a sense they actually, you know, believed any of the stuff that they were pushing?

00:50:23.000 Or are they just legitimately insane at this point?

00:50:26.000 I think it's a little of column A, B, and C on that one, but I do think that, yeah, you do have the pure grifters that are mostly in it for the money, and it's not hard to figure out why they're doing it because of the money and also the influence that they have over people's lives, the power that they have.

00:50:42.000 There's the virtue signaling element.

00:50:44.000 So the grifters, that's, I think, what primarily drives them.

00:50:47.000 But Yeah, you do have the true believers.

00:50:50.000 They are the ones who are buying the books and going to the race dinners and going to the seminars and willingly subjecting themselves to it.

00:50:57.000 And as far as why they do it, I've spent a lot of time Trying to figure that out, you know, diving into this perverse mindset to figure out what they get out of it.

00:51:08.000 And I still don't know exactly.

00:51:10.000 I think part of it is it's kind of a religious thing.

00:51:14.000 It's almost there on the left.

00:51:16.000 It's their substitute for religion. 0.99

00:51:18.000 I think a lot of these and maybe I'm reading too much into it or I'm trying to get to I'm trying to read their minds too much.

00:51:24.000 Maybe even giving them too much credit.

00:51:26.000 But I do think that at some level, There's a guilt that they have.

00:51:31.000 Everybody feels guilt because we all do things that are wrong, but if you're a religious person, if you're a Christian, you have a way of understanding your guilt, and you know what you're supposed to do with it.

00:51:41.000 But if you're not religious, and people on the left, they're all mostly godless heathens, they don't have, you know, quote unquote, traditional religion.

00:51:48.000 So they have this kind of religious yearning.

00:51:52.000 They don't know what to do with it.

00:51:53.000 And then you've got these DEI hustlers who come in, and they're kind of the new priests and priestesses of this religion, this cult.

00:52:00.000 And they tell them, oh, I know why you're feeling that way. 0.97

00:52:03.000 It's because you're white. 0.98

00:52:04.000 And here's what you can do to alleviate your guilt, you know, buy the book, go to the seminar.

00:52:11.000 But then they do all that.

00:52:12.000 And then they're told at the end of it that, oh, by the way, you're still just as guilty and just as racist as you were when you started because there's no way, there's really no way to ever be free of it.

00:52:20.000 That's kind of the nature of the group.

00:52:22.000 Can you ever buy enough books to not be racist?

00:52:24.000 I guess this is the question.

00:52:25.000 But you're right about the religious thing.

00:52:27.000 I mean, I talk about that a bunch, which is like with the left, because they're always searching for that deity.

00:52:31.000 It always transforms, right?

00:52:32.000 It was like Greta Thunberg as the high priestess of climate change. 0.97

00:52:36.000 That flipped over to Anthony Fauci as the god of COVID. And now it's Zelensky in Ukraine.

00:52:42.000 And I imagine for a lot of people who may You know, have other problems.

00:52:46.000 It's probably this DEI mandate manifesting itself as some sort of guilt, but it's an ever-evolving thing.

00:52:54.000 I mean, when you talk about these things, you do talk about it sort of as an affront to a lot of the traditional values, whether it's Christianity, whether it's sort of the basic nuclear family.

00:53:04.000 You know, what's the future of the left if that's where they're going?

00:53:10.000 You know, again, juxtaposed towards, you know, again, traditional...

00:53:14.000 Christianity that you talk about a lot, the values instilled in that, as well as the nuclear family.

00:53:19.000 I think, well, there isn't much of a future long-term, and I think in particular with just taking DEI itself for a moment, I think that DEI is, it's certainly dying right now, and that happens,

00:53:37.000 this always happens on the left when they have some kind of item on their agenda, some program they're pushing that's really insane and hideous, but they get away with it for a long time because People don't notice it.

00:53:50.000 They don't know that it's happening.

00:53:52.000 And a lot of times these ideas, they start in the kind of ivory tower and academia.

00:53:58.000 And if you're just an average everyday American, you're not exposed to it.

00:54:02.000 And then it slowly seeps its way out from there into the general population.

00:54:07.000 But then it reaches a critical mass where people start to notice it.

00:54:09.000 And they're like, this is crazy.

00:54:11.000 Same thing happened with gender ideology. 0.62

00:54:13.000 And once that happens, once people notice it and they understand what's going on and they respond, as normal people do, to insanity, they treat it like it's insane, that's when it starts to...

00:54:22.000 It becomes untenable.

00:54:24.000 But then what you have to look out for on the left is, well, they're not just going to abandon the agenda.

00:54:30.000 Instead, they're going to try to repackage it.

00:54:32.000 And they're very good at that.

00:54:33.000 They're very good at taking an idea that people have rejected and repackaging it and just calling it something else.

00:54:42.000 And then they get kind of a second life out of it.

00:54:44.000 And so that's what I'm looking for with DEI.

00:54:46.000 What is their what's their new name, their new label, their new kind of dressing that they put on this so they can keep keep the griff going? 0.77

00:54:55.000 Yeah, you know, not so much for DEI, but I noticed, you know, seven, eight years ago when I started, you know, when the trans women in, you know, in sports, you know, started coming out.

00:55:04.000 And I was like, where are the soccer moms? 0.97

00:55:05.000 And even on Twitter back then, when it was, you know, 99% dominated by the left, you know, I'd put something against, you know, a boy playing against young girls in sports, and even there, like, overwhelmingly, I'd read the comments, and they're like...

00:55:18.000 Oh, I hate Don Jr.

00:55:19.000 with a passion.

00:55:20.000 I can't believe I agree with him on something.

00:55:22.000 It was never popular, and yet they were still able to get a foothold.

00:55:27.000 It wasn't something that even in a very leftist environment was really catching on, and yet they were able to keep pushing through.

00:55:33.000 What enables them to be able to power through even against popular sentiment?

00:55:41.000 I think there's a few things.

00:55:42.000 One thing is that people...

00:55:46.000 Oftentimes, this is certainly the case with gender ideology, is that people didn't understand how widespread and pervasive this actually was. 0.98

00:55:53.000 And sometimes it's almost like the left benefits from how crazy their ideas are, that the average person hears it, and if they hear it for the first time, they go, okay, but that's not a thing.

00:56:03.000 I mean, people don't actually buy that.

00:56:05.000 And so you almost just assume, I think it's logically you assume that it must be some fringe thing.

00:56:11.000 It's not...

00:56:12.000 It's not really relevant.

00:56:13.000 It's off on the fringes.

00:56:15.000 And so there's that.

00:56:18.000 And then also, and again, this is especially the case with gender ideology, but also with DEI, that people like Most people are polite, and most people are just nice, and they want to get along, and they don't want to be rude, and they don't want to hurt your feelings.

00:56:32.000 And so the left's able to exploit that.

00:56:35.000 And that's what makes it so insidious.

00:56:36.000 They exploit something in people that's good, which is a person's desire to just be polite and nice and not hurt someone's feelings.

00:56:44.000 That's a good thing.

00:56:45.000 I don't have that instinct.

00:56:47.000 I used to have that instinct, then I got involved in politics and broke it out of me.

00:56:51.000 Now I just assume the worst.

00:56:53.000 Exactly.

00:56:54.000 So for people like you and me, it's like we don't quite have that.

00:56:57.000 We're not saddled with the burden of trying to be polite to people.

00:57:01.000 But the average people are.

00:57:02.000 And then they become susceptible because then the left comes in and says, okay, well, you want to be nice to people.

00:57:08.000 You don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, right?

00:57:09.000 Well, then say the pronouns, do this, do that, go to the DEI program, and they're able to exploit it.

00:57:17.000 It's really sinister.

00:57:18.000 Yeah, I mean, you would think there'd be an endgame, though.

00:57:20.000 You know, when I'm watching these suburban mothers and they're like, their daughter lost their scholarship after watching, you know, triple headers of, you know, girl softball for 18 years, you know, you'd think there'd be a point where they're like, you know what, maybe this is too far now.

00:57:33.000 We're no longer being just welcoming or inclusive or kind.

00:57:36.000 We're actually...

00:57:38.000 We're really affecting the trajectory of our children's future that we put so much time and effort into, and that's the one I don't understand.

00:57:47.000 What's the endgame for the future for them, given, again, how pervasive it did get?

00:57:53.000 And although I agree with you that people are finally catching on.

00:57:55.000 They went too far, as they always do.

00:57:58.000 Yeah, I think, I mean, look, ultimately for the left with anything, the endgame is always destruction, really.

00:58:05.000 It's always about dismantling.

00:58:07.000 That's why they use the word dismantle as a positive thing.

00:58:10.000 So they want to dismantle, you know, the nuclear family, dismantle the so-called patriarchy.

00:58:15.000 They want to redefine, dismantle, destroy.

00:58:20.000 They don't have anything to replace it with.

00:58:22.000 It's just they know that they don't like this thing because of how it makes them feel and because they blame it for all of their problems and they blame it for all the oppression that they feel they've suffered, even though most of the time they haven't.

00:58:33.000 And so they just want to get rid of it.

00:58:35.000 They want to destroy it, but they don't really have a positive vision for the future.

00:58:39.000 Like, okay, we want to dismantle the nuclear family.

00:58:42.000 Well, Then what?

00:58:45.000 I mean, what's step two?

00:58:47.000 And they don't really have a step two, except for the state moves in and takes its place.

00:58:53.000 I guess that's the step two.

00:58:54.000 Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it feels like the state is a big part of pushing a lot of this stuff.

00:58:58.000 You see all the, you know, the DEI programs and the veteran administrations, the, you know, the inclusive, again, not just DEI, but, you know, also the gender ideology.

00:59:08.000 But you also see it in the corporate side of things.

00:59:12.000 You know, I'd like to, why are DEI activists even being brought in for corporate politics?

00:59:19.000 Is it to avoid legal liability?

00:59:21.000 Is it a checklist against future discrimination lawsuits that we did these things?

00:59:27.000 How is it that corporate America, that's supposed to be a meritocracy, sort of adapts these programs, jams it down people's throats, which seem very contrary to what would be their fiduciary responsibility to shareholders or otherwise?

00:59:43.000 Yeah, I think you nailed it.

00:59:45.000 I think you landed on the answer there.

00:59:47.000 Because we talk about woke corporations and how these corporations are so-called woke, and they are in the way that they behave.

00:59:54.000 But I do still think that In business, the thing that these people really care about is making money.

01:00:01.000 They wouldn't be in the business in the first place if they didn't want to make money.

01:00:05.000 Whether it's Disney or any of these other corporations that we call woke, what they actually care about is making money.

01:00:10.000 Now, they get into the DEI stuff because they've been convinced that that's the best way to do it, that this is what they have to do to make money.

01:00:17.000 This will be the most profitable path for them.

01:00:20.000 But I think they're being proven wrong on that, which is why now you have a whole bunch of corporations that are You know, abandoning their DEI initiatives because they've realized that there's no there's no there's no profit here.

01:00:32.000 And all you're really doing is driving out the most qualified people.

01:00:35.000 And there's a there are consequences to that.

01:00:38.000 And the consequence hurts consequence hurts your bottom line.

01:00:41.000 And I think that these corporations like they can only endure that for so long.

01:00:45.000 They can only lose money from this stuff for so long before they're you know, before their woke principles kind of go by the wayside.

01:00:52.000 Yeah, but it's not just in the hiring process.

01:00:55.000 It's also in the people that they're catering to.

01:00:57.000 I won't have the Disney subscription.

01:00:59.000 I won't have that in my household anymore.

01:01:01.000 And I know millions more Americans.

01:01:03.000 When you look at what happened to the shareholder value of all of these companies, you see the attacks.

01:01:06.000 I mean, it does seem like it's taking...

01:01:08.000 Hold and people are sort of now, let's say, willing to vote with their wallet as it relates to that.

01:01:15.000 And yet it was going on for a while and they still sort of felt like they were doubling down.

01:01:19.000 I hope we've gotten to the breaking point where they realize it's not tenable anymore.

01:01:23.000 But it went on much longer than it should in a, let's call it a free market.

01:01:29.000 Yeah, it did.

01:01:30.000 It did.

01:01:30.000 But I think that, and we also have to keep in mind how much money is involved here.

01:01:35.000 And you have a company like Disney, for example, just using them, that they, there's so much money, they're making so much money, and they own all of these properties that are near and dear to the hearts of many of the customers that they now hate.

01:01:48.000 That gives them a cushion, but at a certain point, I think you have to respond to the marketplace.

01:01:54.000 This wasn't Disney, of course, but you look at the latest Joker film that came out, and just utter contempt for their own audience was seeping out of that film, and it completely bombed.

01:02:06.000 It was a historic embarrassment at the box office.

01:02:09.000 So, you know, the filmmakers involved, the people involved in that, are they going to...

01:02:13.000 Will they be thinking about that the next time they're making a movie?

01:02:16.000 I would think so, most likely.

01:02:18.000 I would hope so, but it's Hollywood, so you never know.

01:02:20.000 I mean, but I guess, you know, DEI is really a tenant of the Democratic Party platform right now.

01:02:26.000 I mean, is this election, you know, we're going to be less than two weeks out.

01:02:31.000 Is this election our best chance to finally end it, or does it not even...

01:02:36.000 Is it not even about politics anymore?

01:02:38.000 It's going to have to take place with the consumers.

01:02:41.000 Well, the consumers will have to have a lot to do with it.

01:02:45.000 But yes, I mean, absolutely.

01:02:47.000 This is...

01:02:47.000 I can't...

01:02:49.000 It's hard to imagine what will happen if we actually have the DEI president.

01:02:56.000 If the DEI candidate actually becomes president, then a lot of the progress that I'm talking about, we're making real inroads against the DEI madness.

01:03:04.000 We're making huge inroads against gender ideology. 0.94

01:03:07.000 All these things are linked together.

01:03:08.000 And if we get a Trump presidency for the next four years, then I'm not going to say that We'll live in a utopia and all of these problems will be gone.

01:03:19.000 But we can really put the nail in the coffin of a lot of these things.

01:03:21.000 But then if you get the DEI president in there, that's going to give all of this madness that we're fighting back against.

01:03:28.000 It's going to give it a second breath, a second life.

01:03:30.000 And we just can't allow that to happen.

01:03:33.000 I agree.

01:03:34.000 That would be the catalyst for more of this stuff to continue.

01:03:36.000 And guys like you and me and a bunch of other people are going to have to work a lot harder to end it.

01:03:40.000 But, Matt, where can everyone go to find the movie, to check it out?

01:03:44.000 I mean, I think, again, it's the kind of thing that people have to see.

01:03:47.000 Because if you do end up with the DEI president, you're right.

01:03:51.000 It's a disaster.

01:03:52.000 If people see this stuff, if people who are on the fence understand that this is the ideology of Kamala Harris and today's Democrat Party, I think it actually makes a difference in the next two weeks.

01:04:02.000 Where can they find it so they can see it and they can be reassured that we can put an end to this nonsense once and for all, hopefully.

01:04:09.000 Yeah, absolutely.

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01:04:21.000 Well, I appreciate it.

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01:04:31.000 I love that you're doing it with humor.

01:04:33.000 Sometimes that's the best way to be a messenger and just point it out for everyone.

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