Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - New Era of Fair Trade Plus Interview with Brett Favre | TRIGGERED Ep.230

00:06:23.000 Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered on this Liberation Thursday.

00:06:29.000 What we're seeing this week is a fundamental fight between American industry and globalization.

00:06:35.000 This isn't about one day in the stock market or the endless stream of media hysteria.

00:06:42.000 This is about growth.

00:06:44.000 Long-term growth.

00:06:45.000 And frankly, we're already seeing positive results.

00:06:49.000 You'll obviously never hear about that.

00:06:51.000 People will do the immediate panic. 0.98

00:06:52.000 We've based our entire system on making stupid short-term decisions so a politician can get elected in three weeks, even if it screws us 30 years down the road. 0.98

00:07:01.000 It doesn't matter. 0.90

00:07:02.000 It's about a fundamental departure from the decades of open borders, globalization, multi-trillion dollar peacetime deficits, and taking this country in a different direction that puts American workers and American companies first.

00:07:19.000 So, we're going to get into all of that.

00:07:21.000 Plus, we're going to sit down with NFL Hall of Fame legend Brett Favre to discuss football, faith, and his battle with Parkinson's.

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00:10:27.000 Yesterday was Liberation Day, guys.

00:10:30.000 Where fair trade, America first, common sense policies were on full display.

00:10:36.000 And to be clear, What we saw yesterday was a message that we're investing heavily in our middle class.

00:10:43.000 We're not going to be an economy for international global oligarchs.

00:10:47.000 For the rest of the world, the gravy train is over.

00:10:51.000 For America, it's an upward shift to put money back into the pockets of the American workers.

00:10:59.000 And yes, guys, reversing decades of decline might not please Wall Street for a few days.

00:11:05.000 Totally get that.

00:11:06.000 But If it doesn't happen now, the consequences will be far, far worse.

00:11:12.000 There's a point of no return, and we're getting very near that.

00:11:16.000 We need to fix it now.

00:11:17.000 We got to start making long-term decisions, not short-term rapid ones to get some whatever person to donate to a politician while they sell our future down the river 50 years from now.

00:11:30.000 Here's J.D. Vance laying it all out.

00:11:34.000 Forty years, we've had an economy that rewards people who ship American jobs overseas and raises taxes on American workers, and we're flipping that on its head.

00:11:43.000 We're going to cut taxes for American workers and for American companies that build here.

00:11:47.000 We're going to make it harder to ship American jobs overseas. 1.00

00:11:51.000 It's a total shift in the way that we've done economic policy in the United States of America, but it was necessary.

00:11:57.000 So, yeah, we're going to cut your taxes.

00:11:59.000 You're going to have more money in your pocket, and that's, of course, going to help you deal with the cost of inflation.

00:12:03.000 But that's not about offsetting the tariffs.

00:12:05.000 They work together.

00:12:07.000 We want to penalize people for shipping our jobs overseas.

00:12:10.000 We want to reward hardworking Americans.

00:12:12.000 It's all part of the same policy.

00:12:14.000 And my father had what I think is frankly a great analogy, writing on Truth Social, quote, Kind of nails it.

00:12:34.000 No longer are we going to hollow out our heartland.

00:12:37.000 We're going to actually rebuild it.

00:12:39.000 And American companies are taking notice.

00:12:42.000 Just listen to a Ford executive on the good this will do for Americans.

00:12:47.000 Exactly right.

00:12:48.000 For the next couple of months, we're going to offer our customers the same deal that our employees get.

00:12:52.000 And as you say, that's w You come into our store, pricing.

00:12:57.000 This is kind of t bit of a time out.

00:13:00.000 We've from our customers and we to be assured that Ford, auto company is going to as our dealers.

00:13:10.000 We make t We export the most.

00:13:14.000 And we're in a good position concern and give them a And by the way, this is what my father said he was going to do.

00:13:26.000 He campaigned on this issue going all the way back to 2015, and was even saying it on Oprah back in the 1980s.

00:13:35.000 And as Fox Business host Charles Payne asked, Well guys, I don't know about you, but I think it's the latter.

00:13:50.000 President Trump ran on tariffs.

00:13:52.000 What we just saw was a president who did what he said he was going to do.

00:13:56.000 Every single day, the media said Trump is running on tariffs, and people said, we know that.

00:14:00.000 Trump is running on bringing back manufacturing.

00:14:02.000 People said, we know that.

00:14:03.000 And they went and pulled the lever for him.

00:14:05.000 This is mind-boggling to me that the media is focused on pain, pain, pain.

00:14:10.000 You know, listen to me.

00:14:12.000 I heard someone earlier today on another network say that countries send us wine, cheese, and Mercedes, and we give them a piece of paper.

00:14:18.000 As if, like, we're getting the better end of the bargain.

00:14:21.000 People sweat.

00:14:22.000 They work hard.

00:14:23.000 They sacrifice families.

00:14:24.000 Families are broken up.

00:14:25.000 People commit crimes for this piece of paper.

00:14:28.000 It represents an investment, our life, our energy.

00:14:31.000 It represents a lot.

00:14:32.000 So we send it over there. 0.97

00:14:33.000 We get all this plastic crap on this table. 0.94

00:14:36.000 You know how that money comes back to this country? 0.99

00:14:37.000 They buy this building.

00:14:39.000 They buy our farms.

00:14:40.000 This system is unsustainable.

00:14:43.000 It's unsustainable.

00:14:44.000 We have to figure it out.

00:14:45.000 So, if the American people can make a short-term You know, hey, that beach ball costs 50 cents more.

00:14:51.000 I won't buy it.

00:14:52.000 This is what's really amazing to me.

00:14:54.000 And unfortunately, I hear it on all our network and that line of networks that somehow we all want a good GDP.

00:15:00.000 We all want a good economy.

00:15:01.000 But does it have to come at the expense?

00:15:03.000 Is it patriotic to always stay in debt?

00:15:06.000 Is it patriotic to spend my entire paycheck so that the economy is good?

00:15:11.000 Is it patriotic so my kids can't afford to go to college?

00:15:14.000 I don't have a retirement.

00:15:15.000 I don't have a decent home.

00:15:17.000 Is that patriotic?

00:15:18.000 Is our patriotism tied to Wall Street?

00:15:20.000 Or should it be tied to our own personal ability to achieve the American dream?

00:15:26.000 We need to rethink all of this.

00:15:28.000 Just look at your screen.

00:15:31.000 Look at these trade deficits and tariffs that other countries are charging us.

00:15:36.000 They've been doing this for decades.

00:15:38.000 This is not something new.

00:15:40.000 This isn't the response.

00:15:42.000 This is the ailment that put us where we are.

00:15:45.000 From China, to the EU, to frankly pretty much every other country, Americans are getting, and have been getting, a raw deal.

00:15:56.000 Now, you've probably heard the media shriek about protectionism.

00:16:00.000 You know, the usual nonsense.

00:16:03.000 But as Palmer Luckey, It's very simple.

00:16:27.000 If they charge us, we charge them.

00:16:29.000 It's common sense.

00:16:31.000 It's sort of a no-brainer.

00:16:33.000 And remember this.

00:16:34.000 is also an example of national security.

00:16:38.000 For our energy sector, for our agriculture sector, and for our manufacturing sector, for too long we've given other nations, even hostile ones, frankly many hostile ones, unfettered access to the American marketplace.

00:16:53.000 But why?

00:16:54.000 Are Americans really benefiting from any of that?

00:16:57.000 For example, we've covered repeatedly the dangers of letting CCP link, that's the Chinese Communist Party, Linked entities buy up our farmland and infiltrate our food supply chains.

00:17:10.000 And according to a new report, the Trump administration is now ramping up its investigations and scrutiny of this nefarious behavior with companies that are linked to China.

00:17:21.000 HHS, the FBI, the Treasury Department, and many others are making it clear that business as usual is over.

00:17:29.000 We're not ceding our sovereignty and our critical supply chains and our infrastructure to the CCP or any third-party countries who are doing their bidding.

00:17:41.000 But, of course, Democrats are doing everything they can to stand in the way of all this.

00:17:50.000 The good news is, this week, Wisconsin voters did overwhelmingly vote to make voter ID the law in their state, which, of course, everyone knows is common sense.

00:18:01.000 The Supreme Court seat didn't go our way, but the voter ID law is massive.

00:18:07.000 By the way, for the future, guys, we all have to get in the game.

00:18:12.000 We all have to be involved.

00:18:14.000 The GOP, that party, needs to create the same machine that gets this Democrat ballot-harvesting nonsense going.

00:18:21.000 We have to play the same game.

00:18:23.000 Because if Donald Trump's not in the ticket in the future, we still have to win, or our country will be in just as much jeopardy as it was In 20, in 16, in 2024.

00:18:34.000 So we have to start playing that same game.

00:18:37.000 But how is the left responding?

00:18:40.000 As Senator Mike Lee pointed out, the DNC, along with Democrat leadership in Congress, have filed a lawsuit to allow non-citizens to vote in American elections.

00:18:52.000 Just so we're clear, they want illegals and non-citizens to vote.

00:18:56.000 to vote in American elections.

00:18:58.000 The further away from America that you can be, they probably want you voting in their elections.

00:19:03.000 They would love our enemies to vote in those elections, too, because they would all vote Democrat, because that would lead to the destruction of American hegemony, sovereignty, and everything else that we stand for.

00:19:16.000 And as Doge revealed, there are 5 million non-citizens who have Social Security numbers.

00:19:22.000 5 million, guys.

00:19:24.000 And thousands.

00:19:25.000 are registered to vote.

00:19:27.000 And that's just the ones we know about.

00:19:30.000 Check this out.

00:19:32.000 That's a jaw-dropping number.

00:19:33.000 Where'd all those people come from?

00:19:36.000 Well, it made my jaw drop, too, when I saw it.

00:19:39.000 You know, we were in Social Security looking for fraud, waste, and abuse.

00:19:42.000 And to do that, we actually looked at the enumeration system, the system by which people get numbers in America.

00:19:48.000 And we found that there were just about five-plus million of them that came to the country as illegals, were giving various forms of parole around the country, and they got through an automatic system, social security numbers, to get into our benefit systems.

00:20:02.000 And we tracked that through and found that they were on the benefit programs.

00:20:05.000 And just because we were curious, we then looked to see if they were on the voter rolls.

00:20:11.000 And we found in a handful of cooperative states that there were thousands of them on the voter rolls and that many of them had voted.

00:20:18.000 And as we close out the news rundown, we'll play this video.

00:20:22.000 The White House put out today laying out the $5 trillion in American investment secured under this administration.

00:20:32.000 Check this out.

00:20:33.000 President Trump pushing ahead with his America First agenda.

00:20:36.000 Breaking news, Apple announced it's going to work with Foxconn to build a server factory in Texas by 2026.

00:20:43.000 The company says it is now planning to invest $500 billion in the U.S. economy.

00:20:47.000 The CEO of SoftBank pledging to invest $100 billion in the U.S. over the next four years.

00:20:54.000 This is President Trump delivering on the promise he made to the American people on the campaign trail.

00:20:59.000 The idea is come to America, Build greatness in America.

00:21:03.000 Build for America.

00:21:05.000 American customers.

00:21:06.000 Project Stargate.

00:21:07.000 It's a joint venture between SoftBank, Oracle, and OpenAI, and they're going to create a data center that will eventually be expanded to other states.

00:21:15.000 Shows people are listening to Mr. Trump's pitch to bring new industry to America.

00:21:20.000 This is the latest pledge from a foreign business leader promising to spend big in the U.S. as a result of Trump's election victory.

00:21:27.000 Founder of the property development company, Demac Properties, is pledging the money.

00:21:31.000 President Trump announcing $100 billion investment NVIDIA says it will invest hundreds of billions of dollars over the next four years,

00:22:01.000 Part of the manufacturing renaissance under President Donald J. Trump.

00:22:04.000 Furniture maker Pre-Pack are shifting their operations from Canada to North Carolina.

00:22:09.000 Johnson & Johnson says it will invest more than $55 billion in the U.S.

00:22:13.000 over the next four years.

00:22:15.000 Hyundai announced a $20 billion investment.

00:22:17.000 With your leadership, Mr. President, Hyundai Motor Group is proud to be a stronger partner in America's industrial future.

00:22:24.000 It is the automobile industry.

00:22:26.000 Now those plans largely have stopped and they're moving on.

00:22:29.000 To our country, Honda is building one of the biggest plants.

00:22:33.000 The trade story is certainly picking up speed here and pushing more countries to make these bigger investments.

00:22:37.000 It's another example of the Trump effect.

00:22:40.000 GE Aerospace announcing a nearly $1 billion investment into American manufacturing.

00:22:45.000 Eli Lilly announcing plans to expand its manufacturing here in the United States.

00:22:49.000 $27 billion additional spend, bringing our total to more than $50 billion.

00:22:52.000 The money's rolling in, and this is in the past 60-some-odd days, Charles.

00:22:56.000 These are deep-pocketed folks who want the money.

00:22:59.000 To have a relationship and it's just smart moves.

00:23:02.000 We are CMACGM, one of the leaders.

00:23:04.000 ...

00:23:04.000 in shipping and logistics around the world.

00:23:06.000 Today, we are investing $20 billion.

00:23:09.000 Foreign leaders from around the world, investors from Silicon Valley, to Wall Street, to Main Street, have confidence again in our economy, in our markets, and in President Trump.

00:23:18.000 The Trump effect this morning, a string of massive wins for American manufacturing.

00:23:24.000 The numbers speak for themselves.

00:23:26.000 Wisconsin-based Clarios is putting up $6 billion to expand its American operation.

00:23:31.000 And what's driving these decisions?

00:23:32.000 Well, President Trump's aggressive made-in-America policies and his commitment to bringing industry back to American soil.

00:23:40.000 This is exactly what Trump promised.

00:23:42.000 America first is back.

00:23:46.000 USA! USA!

00:23:50.000 USA! USA!

00:23:52.000 you Of course, guys, no one's going to talk about it.

00:23:57.000 $5 trillion in new American investment?

00:24:00.000 I promise you.

00:24:01.000 Whatever hysterionics you hear on TV, whatever you see in a short-term blip in the stock market, this is going to make up for it immensely, okay?

00:24:11.000 And with multiples, you just have to let it take its effect.

00:24:17.000 That doesn't happen overnight.

00:24:18.000 Remember, it was like January 20th My father gets sworn in and about seven seconds later, the Democrats are saying, egg prices haven't gone down yet.

00:24:26.000 Of course they haven't.

00:24:27.000 This stuff takes time.

00:24:28.000 Nothing's immediate.

00:24:29.000 But we live in an instant gratification society that makes that so much harder.

00:24:34.000 Let it take hold.

00:24:36.000 Trust it.

00:24:37.000 And guys, Brett Favre is coming up in just a few moments.

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00:26:03.000 you Okay guys, joining me now, NFL legend, Hall of Famer, Brett Favre.

00:26:11.000 Brett, thanks so much for being here.

00:26:13.000 I really appreciate it.

00:26:14.000 Well, thanks for having me, Don.

00:26:15.000 Appreciate it.

00:26:17.000 Well, I want to start by asking how we've seen sort of this intersection now between sports and politics.

00:26:24.000 We're actually having to debate whether boys should be competing in girls sports.

00:26:29.000 On the flip side, my father's administration is now making health, wellness, and protecting our athletes a priority.

00:26:36.000 How do you see it?

00:26:37.000 As someone that's competed at the most elite levels in professional sports, What do you see what's going on here?

00:26:43.000 Because it's almost hard for me to believe that we're even having these conversations.

00:26:47.000 No, I'm totally in agreement with you.

00:26:51.000 To have to even discuss this is beyond me.

00:26:55.000 But, you know, it's the state of our country right now.

00:27:02.000 And if we don't stand up and voice our opinion and get out and vote and do the things that we have to do, Then we're going to see more of this.

00:27:12.000 And so that's why I really got involved.

00:27:16.000 And I don't want to say too deep in politics, but enough.

00:27:21.000 You know, I'm not the smartest guy out there, but I know that men should not be dressing in girls' locker rooms or competing against girls.

00:27:30.000 I mean, it's hugely unfair.

00:27:32.000 It's not right.

00:27:34.000 And I have two daughters.

00:27:36.000 And you know, they're older now, but I would certainly not want a man going into the girl's restroom or locker room or competing against them. 0.86

00:27:46.000 It's totally unfair to the girls and absolutely absurd to even have to talk about it.

00:27:55.000 Yeah, no, I see it.

00:27:56.000 So, you know, I have five kids, but like, I always sort of joke, you know, my girls are sort of the athletes I wanted my boys to be.

00:28:03.000 They're just really good athletes.

00:28:04.000 But, you know, if I put my, you know, my daughter, either one of them against, you know, the comparably aged, you know, they play golf.

00:28:11.000 You know, whatever it may be.

00:28:12.000 I mean, there could be a 60-70 yard difference in an opening drive.

00:28:16.000 Easily. Easily.

00:28:18.000 And it's not to diminish the skills of one side, but it's crazy that you could see someone so dedicated, so this.

00:28:25.000 If I put my oldest son, if he makes contact, he's not as good as my daughter, but if he makes contact, he's not even much of a golfer.

00:28:31.000 He doesn't even care that much.

00:28:33.000 But if he makes contact, man, it's going.

00:28:35.000 And it's a whole different world.

00:28:38.000 You know, the mothers that go to these soccer matches and they watch, you know, a triple header of T-ball can just watch their daughter's scholarship get stripped away or whatever it may be, or just, you know, lose a state championship every day.

00:28:51.000 And even they're not willing to speak up.

00:28:53.000 It's sort of scary.

00:28:54.000 So I want to applaud you for having the guts to speak up against this stuff because you were one of the original guys to actually start talking about it.

00:29:02.000 And then you saw the wave of guys doing the, you know, Touchdown celebration, Trump dance thing.

00:29:07.000 I mean, you know, there does seem to be a pretty big switch in professional sports from from the competitors themselves that they're not just accepting the nonsense anymore as well.

00:29:17.000 Well, you know this better than anyone, Don.

00:29:21.000 People are scared.

00:29:22.000 They were afraid of the backlash.

00:29:25.000 The hate and look at Elon right now.

00:29:29.000 You know, Elon is.

00:29:31.000 I mean, if there was ever an example of. 0.97

00:29:36.000 Ridiculousness for a guy who and the same goes for your dad. 0.86

00:29:42.000 You know, you're taking a pay cut to help this country. 0.96

00:29:46.000 You know, Elon Musk is sleeping on a couch in the White House or in a Tesla outside to make this country better.

00:29:54.000 And the backlash that he has gotten now, I know it's a small minority in the big picture, but nonetheless, I think that in itself Is what scared a lot of people away.

00:30:06.000 Like I'm, you know, I'm with you, but I'm not going to say anything.

00:30:10.000 And that's part of, I was a big part of the problem.

00:30:13.000 I think now we're starting to see the wave, as you said, of people who are voicing their opinion for the good guys.

00:30:22.000 Yeah. And that's what it's going to take.

00:30:25.000 I think that's a good point.

00:30:26.000 I mean, Elon was a darling of the left until like, Two years ago when he decided to be like pro free speech and then he said, hey, I can make the government more efficient.

00:30:34.000 I mean, this guy was beloved.

00:30:36.000 And I think part of you're right.

00:30:37.000 It's it's not even a majority of the people, but the ones that are vocal get a majority of the attention.

00:30:43.000 That's sort of the clickbait society in which we live.

00:30:46.000 But I do sort of feel like there's a purpose.

00:30:48.000 It's designed to stop others from coming out and doing the same thing.

00:30:52.000 Uh, you know, others who, you know, if you have, you know, another Elon type that would say, Hey, I'll get into government.

00:30:57.000 I'll help for a little while.

00:30:58.000 Like that seems to me like if you attack the threat, it was the threats and the attacks and the lawfare against my father.

00:31:04.000 Same thing.

00:31:05.000 We don't want another Trump like person to emerge.

00:31:08.000 We want them to see what happens to Trump.

00:31:10.000 It's designed to stop them from ever even getting in the game.

00:31:13.000 Uh, you know, let, let alone participating.

00:31:16.000 And, you know, hopefully that's backfired.

00:31:18.000 But you're right.

00:31:19.000 I mean, what they're trying to do to Elon is, it's wild that it's happening in America right now.

00:31:23.000 But all the more reason, guys like you, people, I think, understand that it takes guts to come out.

00:31:29.000 And I think you've probably earned a lot of respect from a lot of people who were probably your fans anyway beforehand.

00:31:34.000 Have you have you dealt with a lot of hatred from that, though, by being vocal about it now or not so much?

00:31:39.000 Yeah, you know, I mean, social media and I really I've been vocal on I don't do a lot of interviews and TV stuff.

00:31:51.000 I don't cross paths with a lot of people in public because of where I live and the way the people are here.

00:32:01.000 I mean, they're good people.

00:32:02.000 They believe what we believe.

00:32:04.000 But I'm sure if I went to some of these rogue cities, I would catch some friendly banter from some of these people.

00:32:14.000 You know, I think the key is, again, you know this, your dad knows it, your family knows it, because you've dealt with it.

00:32:23.000 You have to be steadfast and not waver, because some of these people are evil, pure evil, and will stop at nothing to justify their cause or whatever you want to call it.

00:32:39.000 And so we have to be steadfast in our beliefs.

00:32:43.000 And stand by, you know, because a small minority, you know, what I do, I see, you know, someone sends a nasty comment to me.

00:32:54.000 I just block.

00:32:55.000 I don't even worry about dealing with it.

00:32:58.000 Yeah. You know, just block.

00:32:59.000 I mean, they're not worth my time.

00:33:01.000 Yeah. That's actually my superpower is that, you know, what people say about me doesn't bother me at all, which allows me to actually function in this world.

00:33:08.000 Not everyone has that.

00:33:09.000 If you're affected by all of that, you know, the hate, Uh, you know, that can change your whole outlook.

00:33:15.000 But, you know, I've been to some of those cities lately that you're talking about.

00:33:18.000 And honestly, you'd be surprised how much more willing they are to acknowledge that what's going on is actually really good.

00:33:24.000 So I think I think we've made a big shift.

00:33:26.000 And a lot of that has to do with, you know, again, guys like you stepping up and just being willing to open the door for others to be vocal.

00:33:32.000 Elon did that.

00:33:33.000 David Sachs did that.

00:33:34.000 Then you saw like all these other people like, OK, they're actually right about this.

00:33:38.000 This is nuts.

00:33:39.000 Let's do something about it.

00:33:40.000 So I just want to applaud you for that.

00:33:42.000 Thank you.

00:33:43.000 You're actually getting involved a little bit more now.

00:33:46.000 I saw you had a new op-ed out with your plan to create the Congressional Fitness Challenge.

00:33:51.000 I remember this from when I was in elementary school.

00:33:54.000 Then it sort of went away as they let boys become, I guess, soy blobs or whatever that they did. 0.66

00:34:00.000 But it also really sort of aligns with the Maha movement.

00:34:04.000 How did all of that come about?

00:34:06.000 Because so much of what we can do to help our kids is actually preventative, right?

00:34:11.000 I don't want to give them, you know, drugs to fix a problem afterwards, but like, being healthy can actually stop you from ever doing these things.

00:34:18.000 And we're just making sure, you know, they're active, exercising, you know, what can you tell us about all that that you're doing?

00:34:24.000 Well, to be real simple, Abe, we have a mutual friend, Arthur Schwartz, great guy, great friend.

00:34:33.000 And Abe reached out to him about me getting involved.

00:34:37.000 And, you know, I don't know a lot.

00:34:39.000 But I do know about exercise and staying fit.

00:34:44.000 As you know, I was diagnosed with Parkinson's about a year ago, and I've met with five different specialists, and all five have said the same thing.

00:34:53.000 Exercise, exercise, exercise.

00:34:57.000 We found that the best remedy for controlling Parkinson's, it doesn't stop the progression, but it seems to Maybe slow the effects, is exercise.

00:35:10.000 When you throw in the towel, get on the couch and say, my life's over.

00:35:15.000 That's when you're in trouble.

00:35:16.000 And I know there's a lot of people out there that used to exercise or eat right.

00:35:23.000 And look, I like my chocolate.

00:35:26.000 I like fried food from time to time.

00:35:28.000 I like to indulge.

00:35:30.000 And I'm not saying you can't do that.

00:35:32.000 I'm just saying, Be more confident.

00:35:34.000 My dad died at 56 of a massive heart attack.

00:35:36.000 And I can't tell you how many times not.

00:35:39.000 And he was an athlete growing up.

00:35:40.000 He played college baseball.

00:35:43.000 But, you know, as I think back to my growing up days with my father, if I would have said, Dad, let's go for a job.

00:35:52.000 I can't even tell you what he would probably say to me. 0.99

00:35:55.000 You know, I get out of your damn mind. 0.99

00:35:57.000 I know someone like that. 1.00

00:35:59.000 You know that.

00:36:02.000 To me, that temperament, that was really kind of the last generation.

00:36:11.000 I mean, now it's not uncommon to see 50 and 60 and 70 year old guys out on road bikes, biking.

00:36:19.000 I mean, we need more people to take the initiative to work out, eat better, be healthy, And set a better example for the next generation.

00:36:35.000 And we're all to blame.

00:36:37.000 We're the smartest country in the world. 0.99

00:36:40.000 We have the best technology, but we have to be the dumbest people in the world as well. 0.96

00:36:46.000 You know, what we eat, and you know, how we live.

00:36:50.000 So that's really what this is about, is maybe changing the culture.

00:36:55.000 Yeah, listen, I love that.

00:36:57.000 It's sort of amazing.

00:36:58.000 You see it with some of the people.

00:37:00.000 A couple of the big tech billionaires and everything like that, they discover, whether it's testosterone or lifting or maybe a little combination of both, a little testosterone boost and all of a sudden their entire worldview changes.

00:37:13.000 They become much more conservative.

00:37:16.000 Right, right.

00:37:17.000 So maybe not only we're starting a movement towards being You know, in better shape and taking care of yourself, but we're also adding to the movement of.

00:37:31.000 Coming to our side.

00:37:33.000 Yeah, listen, I think it's it's pretty clear the studies are there.

00:37:36.000 The correlation between increased testosterone and political ideology could not be more clear.

00:37:44.000 So yeah, listen, you get get them all a squat rack.

00:37:47.000 I think that that'll that'll do a lot.

00:37:49.000 Yeah, we just little boost there.

00:37:50.000 We could get rid of this.

00:37:52.000 Definitely some strange stuff that's going on.

00:37:55.000 But Brett, you mentioned, you know, you've been very open about your Parkinson's diagnosis.

00:38:00.000 And I think you've really been a source of hope and encouragement for so many families fighting that same battle.

00:38:09.000 What can you tell us about, you know, where the journey has taken you?

00:38:13.000 And, you know, are you optimistic that we can find You know, better treatments and ultimately a cure.

00:38:19.000 Now that you've done the research, you've spent the time, you have access to the best.

00:38:23.000 Right. What can you say about it?

00:38:25.000 Well, first and foremost, your dad, when I spoke in Green Bay at the rally, I had a chance to visit with him backstage.

00:38:33.000 You know, I've known your dad for quite a while.

00:38:36.000 I wouldn't consider us great friends, even though I think the world of him.

00:38:41.000 But he said to me in private, me and my wife, Deanna, we were We were sitting there talking with him and he said, Brett, if it's out there, we're going to find the treatments, the solutions, not only for you, but for everyone.

00:38:57.000 If at all possible, we're going to provide our country with what they need, not just medications.

00:39:06.000 And that was reassuring.

00:39:08.000 There is no cure for Parkinson's right now, but I would say since I retired in 2011, I was kind of on this passionate crusade to solve the concussion puzzle, come up with a solution.

00:39:25.000 Better helmets help to a certain degree, but look, concussions are going to keep happening.

00:39:31.000 I bring up concussions because every specialist I talked to, I said, where do you think I got Parkinson's?

00:39:38.000 And they, each one said, If it's not in the family, then I would say head trauma and or environmental chemicals, exposure to things you eat, you know, cellular waves, whatever.

00:39:53.000 But they all said, based on what you've done for so long, and the amount of head trauma is monumental, you know, whether it be small or big, would be the root cause of Parkinson's.

00:40:07.000 And so, Would I change things if I could go back?

00:40:11.000 Probably not.

00:40:11.000 It is what it is.

00:40:13.000 I'm gonna deal with it.

00:40:14.000 But as I'm trying to, you know, control the progression, if you will, I'm also trying to find a cure or something that would at least stop it in its tracks or the progression.

00:40:31.000 And so that's, you know, I'm trying to take a negative and make it into a positive.

00:40:35.000 It sucks to have Parkinson's.

00:40:36.000 I have to take medicine every four hours.

00:40:39.000 And, you know, if I'm slow to take my next dose, the rigidity and the shaking and stuff, you know, constantly remind me, hey, it's time for your medicine.

00:40:51.000 And, you know, it sucks, but it is what it is.

00:40:55.000 And I'm going to make something positive out of it. 0.88

00:40:58.000 Yeah. I mean, I know we've spoken offline.

00:40:59.000 You know, I lost my best friend to suicide, but, you know, it was, you know, Pro football player, played high-level college, he was an incredible athlete, but I think what he said to me, I didn't even know anything was going on, and then one day he shot himself. 0.61

00:41:15.000 We spoke eight minutes before it happened, and he was breaking my balls.

00:41:19.000 It was a regular day, and then someone else was in the driver's seat for that short instance. 0.90

00:41:24.000 He sort of said, Hey, listen, I was, I was fast, but there were guys that were better than me.

00:41:29.000 So I used what I had as a weapon to make a tackle.

00:41:31.000 And if I tackled someone and I didn't, wasn't seeing stars, I wasn't hitting hard enough.

00:41:35.000 And I was like that, you know, you know, they, they sort of blamed that one on CTE.

00:41:41.000 Uh, but what, what do you see, you know, with football, uh, with that, you know, obviously, you know, there's people complaining about some of the rules changes and it's, you know, and, you know, maybe, maybe rightfully so.

00:41:51.000 And then there's that intersection of like, Hey, If my kid wanted to play tackle football, I'd say maybe, hey, play soccer or something else that doesn't have the head trauma.

00:41:59.000 You know, how do you see how all of that relates to football?

00:42:03.000 Would you let your kids play the same way that you did?

00:42:07.000 How do you sort of take this cultural phenomenon that is football, like the most American thing there is, but also stop these things from happening?

00:42:15.000 Because there are a lot of those stories.

00:42:17.000 Like I said, one's really personal to me.

00:42:19.000 Obviously, yours Uh, you know, that's probably what it is.

00:42:22.000 Environmental factors are part of it.

00:42:24.000 Uh, you know, how do you see that whole combination of things going on right now?

00:42:28.000 Well, as you know, Don, football's not going away.

00:42:30.000 It's a multi-billion dollar industry and it's the American way. 0.86

00:42:37.000 Um, that being said, um, knowing that it's not going to go away, what I would like to see the NFL to do, and let me back up.

00:42:47.000 I got three grandsons, 14, 11, They have never, first of all, they've never played football.

00:42:55.000 They have never asked me would I help them or teach them how to play.

00:42:59.000 If they did ask, by all means I would help them.

00:43:03.000 But I don't think that a 14 or 15 year old kid, definitely younger than that, should play tackle football.

00:43:09.000 They should play flag football at least until high school.

00:43:13.000 And that should be across the country.

00:43:15.000 And that would eliminate some head trauma.

00:43:18.000 Not all, but you're protecting the kids.

00:43:22.000 Because an eight-year-old should not be playing tackle football when their head and their skull is not even close to being completely formed.

00:43:33.000 So that's one way that we can help with this whole concussion deal.

00:43:40.000 But I would like to see the league commit more to treatments, a solution.

00:43:48.000 Rule changes granted some of them help some of them are kind of head scratchers.

00:43:53.000 Yeah but at some point we got it we got to find a you know, you you have a Concussion or the trainer thinks you had a concussion you go to the sideline You know you take something you you Put something through the nose or whatever to stop the inflammation in the brain because that's basically Lack of a better term concussion is inflammation of the brain And so,

00:44:19.000 much like a sprained ankle, or where you put ice on it, or you take anti-inflammatories, there is nothing for concussions like that.

00:44:29.000 You know, sit out is the best solution.

00:44:32.000 So we need something, and there's a lot of money obviously going through the NFL, put some of that money into a treatment that can stop the inflammation in his traps.

00:44:46.000 Have you been involved in watching those sort of treatments manifest or mature, what those treatments could be, what's working or what could work?

00:44:56.000 Is there enough on that yet?

00:44:57.000 Because I'd love to see some of this waste, fraud and abuse that they're discovering.

00:45:01.000 You know, instead of funding circumcision procedures in Mozambique, maybe put it towards, hey, some of the biggest ailments, you know, that are happening in America.

00:45:10.000 You know, that'd be sort of nice.

00:45:11.000 It'd be nice to also watch then the NFL maybe match some of those things if it's a recurring theme, which it seems to be.

00:45:17.000 I'm totally with you.

00:45:19.000 I think a lot of the money that has been wasted could be better served for concussion or things in this country that matter.

00:45:30.000 I think there's a concussion drug that is in clinical trials in Australia that is in like 2B.

00:45:39.000 Phase 2B, and it's shown a lot of promise.

00:45:43.000 And, you know, where that goes, who knows?

00:45:47.000 You know, the process in which that all goes through is pretty detailed, as it should be.

00:45:55.000 So there's a chance that there'll be something in the near future.

00:46:00.000 At least, you know, there's hope that it will be.

00:46:05.000 Other than that, I really don't know of any You know, I'm sure there's people out there trying to, you know, much smarter than me are trying to come up with something, but I don't know of anything that's going to be readily available in the near future.

00:46:19.000 So I guess I got to ask you this one.

00:46:21.000 I mean, with the NFL draft coming up in April, you have perhaps the most iconic draft photo of all time.

00:46:29.000 Back in 1991.

00:46:30.000 I'll make sure they flash this up on the screen.

00:46:32.000 But what's the story behind that moment?

00:46:37.000 How is the draft process different today than it was back then?

00:46:41.000 Well, first of all, it's different because there were 12 rounds when I played.

00:46:45.000 Now I think there's seven.

00:46:48.000 Now it's a big spectacle.

00:46:50.000 You know, it's like the Super Bowl without the game.

00:46:54.000 The draft and it's in Green Bay this year.

00:46:57.000 It's going to be fantastic.

00:46:58.000 There's not a better place to have it, because that's football Mecca.

00:47:01.000 Yeah, my draft day photo.

00:47:04.000 I was in and I shared a bedroom with my two brothers.

00:47:08.000 And as you can see, if you look at that photo, the posters and sports memorabilia was all over the walls, the ceiling and our dad was a baseball and football coach.

00:47:20.000 So that's what we did.

00:47:22.000 That's what we gravitated to.

00:47:24.000 Um, and so everybody came over, you know, I didn't go to New York.

00:47:28.000 I wasn't invited to New York for the draft, not that I would have went anyway.

00:47:33.000 Uh, and we just had a, you know, a big party and, uh, uh, you know, later down the road, I never thought that an NFL player, of course it's Baker Mayfield would do a, a, you know, I thought he did a hell of a job of recreating that draft day photo.

00:47:53.000 To go through the trouble he went through.

00:47:55.000 It actually, I thought it was pretty cool.

00:48:00.000 Not knowing that jorks and the old cordless phone, which our kids have no clue about any of that.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, not even a little bit.

00:48:11.000 You know, they're carrying cell phones and we thought the coolest thing was we got rid of a cordless phone.

00:48:16.000 I mean, you got a cordless phone in the house, but you could walk in the next room and talk because you'd lose them.

00:48:21.000 Yeah, it's basically a corded, cordless phone.

00:48:25.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:48:27.000 But you were actually drafted by the Falcons, right?

00:48:29.000 But you ended up in Green Bay.

00:48:32.000 I guess Packers GM Ron Wolfe traded a first-round pick for you.

00:48:37.000 What sort of confidence did that inspire?

00:48:40.000 I mean, that's a pretty big deal.

00:48:41.000 And what do you remember about those first few years in Green Bay?

00:48:44.000 Because you were there a while.

00:48:46.000 Yeah, so I'll back up, and I was drafted.

00:48:49.000 With the 32nd pick by the Falcons.

00:48:52.000 The pick after was the 33rd pick was the New York Jets.

00:48:57.000 First, that was their first pick in the draft.

00:48:59.000 They had traded away their first round pick.

00:49:01.000 So their first pick in the draft was right after Atlanta's pick.

00:49:05.000 And they were going to take me.

00:49:07.000 Ron Wolfe was assistant GM at the time.

00:49:09.000 I didn't know him.

00:49:11.000 So Atlanta takes me.

00:49:13.000 I go to Atlanta and I always tell the story because I think it's it says a lot about my year in Atlanta.

00:49:19.000 So I was drafted on a Friday.

00:49:22.000 We had a mini camp the next morning in Atlanta, so I I was I was living at my mom and dad's house down on the Gulf Coast, Mississippi, and there was two flights out of Gulfport, Mississippi to Atlanta, one in the morning, one in the evening.

00:49:36.000 The morning when I was scheduled to be on, it was delayed a couple hours.

00:49:40.000 I get to Atlanta.

00:49:42.000 The guy picks me up.

00:49:43.000 Uh, one of the scouts, his name was Danny Mach, picks me up.

00:49:47.000 It's just he and I, we got a long drive to Suwannee, Georgia.

00:49:51.000 And I'm saying, uh, Danny, man, this, this is not good.

00:49:56.000 I'm late.

00:49:56.000 My first practice, he said, Brett, it was out of your control.

00:50:00.000 This is a mini camp.

00:50:01.000 It's no big deal.

00:50:03.000 Coach Glanville will be happy to see you.

00:50:05.000 So I get there, they're out on a practice field.

00:50:07.000 I run in, I grab my shorts, a red jersey, my helmet, I run out.

00:50:11.000 Danny, Wait for me when I walk out there.

00:50:15.000 Uh. Glanville's is got his back to me and he's got a windbreaker on.

00:50:21.000 I'll never forget.

00:50:21.000 He sure had the old coaches Bermuda shorts on.

00:50:24.000 He had a horn in his back pocket and a cowboy hat.

00:50:27.000 Danny said, hey coach coach.

00:50:30.000 So he turns around, he says, and he's got sunglasses on and he says I got your quarterback here and he said Mississippi.

00:50:37.000 I said yes Sir coach.

00:50:39.000 He says what school were you from?

00:50:42.000 And I said, yeah, I'm thinking to myself, hell, he just drafted me.

00:50:45.000 Surely he knows what school I'm from, you know?

00:50:48.000 And I say, I'm from Southern Miss coach. 0.99

00:50:50.000 And he says, damn it. 0.99

00:50:51.000 We drafted the wrong guy. 0.99

00:50:53.000 We wanted a guy from Mississippi state.

00:50:55.000 And I was like, am I supposed to laugh at this or is this a joke?

00:51:01.000 And it never got better from there.

00:51:03.000 It only got worse.

00:51:04.000 So needless to say, at the end of that year, I got traded to Green Bay who, um, Had hired or fired their head coach and GM prior to the end of that season.

00:51:16.000 And I didn't know this, but Ron Wolf, we played the Jets that year.

00:51:21.000 I was with Atlanta late in the year in Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta.

00:51:25.000 And Ron Wolf came down in pregame to watch me throw.

00:51:28.000 I had no clue.

00:51:29.000 I didn't know I was on, you know, on alert that that someone was potentially looking to trade for me.

00:51:37.000 Yeah. He gets the GM job at Green Bay and he said his first order of business after hiring Mike Holmgren as the head coach was to trade for me.

00:51:47.000 And I was, you know, what's so cool about the whole thing is I'm drafted in the second round.

00:51:52.000 I don't play my rookie year.

00:51:54.000 So I do nothing to earn the right to be traded for a first round pick.

00:51:58.000 So it's really like you're drafted in the second round.

00:52:02.000 You do nothing.

00:52:03.000 You end up getting back in the draft, but this time drafted in the first round.

00:52:08.000 It would have amounted to.

00:52:09.000 So. The best thing about Atlanta was it got me to Green Bay.

00:52:15.000 You know, you just never know.

00:52:17.000 Yeah, no, I mean.

00:52:20.000 Stranger things have happened, but yeah, that's it's a great one.

00:52:22.000 And yeah, I mean, obviously go down as a legend in Green Bay.

00:52:25.000 I know you have some funny stories about learning the nickel defense.

00:52:29.000 What was that process like?

00:52:31.000 How are you able to read defenses so well?

00:52:36.000 I started all four years at Southern Miss, and I don't say that braggingly.

00:52:40.000 I say that because we were not really a throwing team.

00:52:45.000 We threw at some, but I was never taught because our offense was not a complicated system.

00:52:51.000 Most of the time, we ran toss, sweep, option, and if we threw it, it was like a sprint out, you know, something that you didn't have to read.

00:52:59.000 So no one ever taught me The various defenses, you know, I knew what cover 2 was, I knew what cover 3 was, I knew what man coverage was, but it really, in the offense at Southern Miss, it didn't really matter because you called a play and you ran it, you didn't check out, very rarely did you have audibles and things of that nature.

00:53:21.000 So when I got to Green Bay in the West Coast offense and Mike Holmgren, who had coached Joe Montana and Steve Young before coaching me, It was what I considered very complicated.

00:53:33.000 The playbook was like this thick and formations, motions, check with me, audibles.

00:53:43.000 I mean, it was overwhelming.

00:53:45.000 So I ended up getting not really thrust into it.

00:53:52.000 Don McCaskill gets hurt in the second game.

00:53:54.000 They put me in.

00:53:56.000 Am I ready?

00:53:57.000 I would have told you, yeah, but I was far from ready.

00:54:01.000 So, you know, I'm running around, they're blitzing.

00:54:04.000 We had it picked up.

00:54:05.000 I didn't know we had it picked up.

00:54:06.000 You know, I wasn't waiting around.

00:54:08.000 I was just running around with like a chicken with his head cut off.

00:54:11.000 And I would always hear him, you know, I was not one to sit in the meeting rooms and coach would be going over stuff.

00:54:18.000 I would say, coach, coach, you talk about, you know, they're doing this and that.

00:54:24.000 I was never one to do that because I was really embarrassed.

00:54:27.000 I'm a starting quarterback.

00:54:28.000 How can I be asking questions?

00:54:29.000 About stuff that I don't know. 0.93

00:54:31.000 So I just played dumb and relied on ability. 0.85

00:54:36.000 But I would hear him talk about nickel and dime all the time. 0.96

00:54:39.000 And it was like, I hear this all the time.

00:54:41.000 And Ty Dettmer, a good friend of mine, you probably hunted with Ty.

00:54:46.000 You know, I felt comfortable asking him questions because he would ridicule me too much.

00:54:51.000 But one day I was like, Ty, I need to ask you a question.

00:54:55.000 He's like, yeah, what is it?

00:54:56.000 I said, I keep hearing him talk about nickel and dime.

00:54:59.000 This is like three or four years in.

00:55:02.000 Plenty of time to learn what it is.

00:55:04.000 But Ty's like, are you serious?

00:55:07.000 I'm like, yeah, I hear him talk about nickel.

00:55:09.000 They're bringing nickel in or dimes coming in.

00:55:12.000 And when you see dime coming in, we want to run to that side.

00:55:15.000 I'm like, I'm just curious.

00:55:17.000 What the hell are they talking about?

00:55:19.000 And he said, well, nickel is basically, You take a linebacker out, you put in a DB.

00:55:25.000 And I said, what's nine?

00:55:26.000 He said, you take out two linebackers and you put in two DBs.

00:55:30.000 And I go, that's it.

00:55:32.000 And he goes, that's it. 1.00

00:55:33.000 I go, who gives a shit? 0.99

00:55:35.000 You know, I'm complicated. 0.99

00:55:38.000 That's how that, that all played out.

00:55:40.000 But, uh, I'm proof that you don't have to know all the ins and outs of the game.

00:55:45.000 To be successful.

00:55:47.000 By the way, I think that's like anything else, whether it's, you know, banking or otherwise.

00:55:50.000 I mean, these guys talk and they talk in the acronyms, you know, ABC.

00:55:54.000 And like, if you just say the words, it's like, oh, I know exactly what you're talking about.

00:55:57.000 But, you know, they sort of make you feel foolish by not necessarily, you know, articulating what the actual stuff is and just, you know, talking in the, you know, banking speak.

00:56:05.000 So, yeah, I think that's probably pretty common.

00:56:08.000 And I'll tell you a funny story.

00:56:11.000 My freshman year at Southern Miss, I'm starting.

00:56:13.000 I'll never forget.

00:56:15.000 We're playing Memphis State.

00:56:16.000 This is 1987.

00:56:17.000 Now they're Memphis, but then they were Memphis State.

00:56:21.000 And my quarterback coach was a guy named Jack White.

00:56:24.000 Great guy.

00:56:26.000 Now, this kind of tells you what kind of offense, you know, our system.

00:56:30.000 So we're watching the film of Memphis State and they're blitzing like crazy.

00:56:35.000 And I'm like, I'm 18 years old, you know, I'm bulletproof, but I'm looking at this and I'm thinking, I mean, this is jailbreak every time they're playing someone.

00:56:46.000 And so I say, Coach White, what do I do if they blitz, if I see blitz?

00:56:51.000 And he said, I'll tell you what you do. 0.99

00:56:53.000 You make some shit happen. 1.00

00:56:55.000 And I was like, now that I can deal with. 0.99

00:56:58.000 That's the kind of coaching points I like.

00:57:01.000 Give me some, you need to check this, check that, move this guy around. 0.99

00:57:06.000 You make some shit happen. 0.98

00:57:08.000 And I said, I can do that. 1.00

00:57:10.000 That's amazing.

00:57:11.000 So speaking of an interesting coach, as you had mentioned, your dad was a coach in high school.

00:57:16.000 What was that like for you?

00:57:17.000 I mean, you know, I can't imagine that always being easy, although it obviously worked out.

00:57:22.000 I mean, you're an NFL legend.

00:57:24.000 How did that shape not just your football view, but perhaps your worldview?

00:57:29.000 Well, it was tough.

00:57:31.000 He was way tougher on me.

00:57:33.000 And I got two brothers, as I said earlier, my older brother, Uh, and my younger brother both played quarterback for my dad as well.

00:57:39.000 What's kind of funny about the whole thing is he threw the ball with my older brother.

00:57:43.000 He threw the ball with my younger brother, but we threw maybe once or twice a game with me.

00:57:48.000 So I'm like, what am I, a chopped liver?

00:57:51.000 Um, but he was so hard on me.

00:57:53.000 I can't, I can't speak for Scott or Jeff because I was not there, but I don't think he, maybe he saw something in me that he didn't and the other two, and the other two both got scholarships and played in college. 0.97

00:58:05.000 He was a hard ass on me.

00:58:07.000 And the good thing about that was the more he pushed me, you know, some, some kids will go the opposite direction. 1.00

00:58:16.000 They'll just say shit on it. 0.99

00:58:17.000 I, you know, it ain't worth it. 1.00

00:58:19.000 I'm tired of you riding my ass. 1.00

00:58:22.000 It drove me to, to work harder. 1.00

00:58:24.000 And maybe that's what he saw in me.

00:58:27.000 If he said, you know, you can't do this.

00:58:29.000 I'd say, oh yeah, well, I'll show you.

00:58:31.000 And we butted heads a lot.

00:58:33.000 I have a dad a little bit like that myself.

00:58:37.000 Luckily, he didn't fully break me, so I guess it worked out in the end.

00:58:40.000 But there were times it was probably pretty close to breaking.

00:58:43.000 Well, there's no doubt your success, my success, are due in large part because of our dads.

00:58:49.000 There's no question about it.

00:58:51.000 And like it or not, it's like this younger generation today, and I blame the parents rather than the kids.

00:58:59.000 They're a softer generation.

00:59:01.000 We want everything for our kids, you know, that we didn't have, or we always wanted.

00:59:07.000 And you don't want, you want to protect them from, you know, evil.

00:59:12.000 And granted, some of that is good, but you got, you got to kind of learn the ropes, the hard way.

00:59:18.000 You got to let them fail a little bit.

00:59:19.000 You got to let them fail. 1.00

00:59:20.000 You got to let them get their ass kicked every once in a while. 0.99

00:59:23.000 My dad, if I got in trouble at school, my mom and dad taught at the same, where I went, First through 12th was all right there together. 0.99

00:59:31.000 So I go 12 years without missing a day of school.

00:59:34.000 And everyone's like, holy crap, really?

00:59:37.000 It's kind of hard to skip when your mom and dad are driving you to school every day. 0.84

00:59:40.000 Exactly. But, you know, along with that and the discipline that my dad, you know, I can't tell you many times, Don, I would say, Dad, let's throw the ball.

00:59:49.000 And he says, look, you let me worry about running the plays and calling plays and running this team.

00:59:55.000 You do what the hell I tell you.

00:59:56.000 Now, I didn't like that. 0.96

00:59:58.000 But if he were here today, he would say, damn sure worked out pretty good, didn't it?

01:00:02.000 Yeah, sometimes they get the last word, even if they're not there to enjoy all of it. 0.72

01:00:07.000 But yeah, I can relate a lot.

01:00:12.000 Speaking of fathers, my father was at the NCAA Wrestling Championships recently in Philadelphia.

01:00:18.000 Uh, and so much of the greatness of America, I think, can be found in sports like wrestling or football or just something, you know, these, you know, contact aggressive, uh, sports.

01:00:30.000 Uh, what sort of lessons have you learned from sort of each chapter of your career from high school to then, you know, Southern Miss to, to playing professionally?

01:00:41.000 Yeah. You know, the, the, the different phases or times from high school To college is a, is a big leap socially, um, fitting in, but I, you know, I think with, with football, it really, you go onto a team.

01:01:02.000 If you walk into the locker room, first time I'm 17 years old and you were the big dog where you just left and you're just the guy you got tape on your helmet says far, they don't even spell it right.

01:01:14.000 Your name is not the easiest one they just come up with.

01:01:17.000 They still get it wrong.

01:01:20.000 And that's that.

01:01:21.000 I understand that, you know, and I think to your your question, the good thing about football in the team aspect of it.

01:01:31.000 So you know, when I came in to Southern Miss at 17 years old, I'm last on the totem pole. 0.99

01:01:37.000 Guys were busting my balls, you know, giving me shit. 0.99

01:01:41.000 And I didn't particularly like it, but it's part of the process. 0.99

01:01:44.000 But then all of a sudden I ended up starting the third game as a 17-year-old.

01:01:49.000 And they needed me to perform.

01:01:51.000 And all of a sudden I was one of the guys.

01:01:54.000 Yeah. And the same can be said as I went on to the next level.

01:01:58.000 And then to play 20 years, I really had a chance, Don.

01:02:04.000 Most guys It's over before they want it to be.

01:02:09.000 And they never had a chance or much time.

01:02:16.000 You know, the latter part of my career, I was actually, I'd be in a TV timeout, and people sometimes would say, Brett, what are y'all talking about in the huddle when they come back from a commercial break?

01:02:27.000 And I said, you'd be surprised.

01:02:29.000 Sometimes it's like, check out that dude over there on the front row. 1.00

01:02:32.000 You know, what a dipshit. 1.00

01:02:35.000 Or it may be. 1.00

01:02:36.000 The cheerleading squad.

01:02:38.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:02:39.000 Look at the girl as topless and it's 35 below. 1.00

01:02:42.000 Yeah, they're going to be gone the next day.

01:02:44.000 They're going to fall off.

01:02:45.000 You know, crazy stuff.

01:02:46.000 But oftentimes I was, especially in the latter part of my career, I would sit there and I'd be just thinking about it.

01:02:51.000 I'm like.

01:02:53.000 This may be the last year that you know I'm in this this stadium and being able to really just soak in the moment.

01:03:02.000 It never.

01:03:04.000 You know, it wasn't like when it was over, like, why didn't I enjoy it?

01:03:08.000 I had a chance to really, because of those 20 years, you think about grade school, first through 12th, how much first grade to senior year?

01:03:18.000 Dramatically different.

01:03:19.000 Now you go 20 years of National Football League as a rookie and a first year guy to, you know, all of a sudden you got kids.

01:03:27.000 I had a grandson at 40 and it's totally, it looks totally different.

01:03:33.000 But I was able to really soak it in, and when I look back, I don't go, I wish I would have done this, or I wish I would have done that, or I regret this.

01:03:44.000 Fortunately for me, I don't have those regrets because of the longevity.

01:03:50.000 So what helped you with that longevity?

01:03:53.000 I mean, 20 years in the NFL, I mean, that's almost unheard of.

01:03:56.000 I mean, it happens.

01:03:58.000 You know, but I mean, what's the average career spans like three, four years, right?

01:04:02.000 I think it's three years.

01:04:03.000 Yeah. Yeah.

01:04:04.000 I mean, what let you go five X?

01:04:06.000 Well, I think there's still I think there's there's two things.

01:04:10.000 The toughness that my father instilled in me.

01:04:13.000 I'll never forget.

01:04:14.000 I was playing little league baseball and I slid in the second and I got I got tagged out.

01:04:21.000 And I was embarrassed, so I laid there like I was hurt.

01:04:25.000 And. My dad was not my coach.

01:04:27.000 He was in the bleachers.

01:04:29.000 And of course he and my mom didn't come out there.

01:04:32.000 But after the game, my dad said, if you ever do that again, you'll sit out there until you rot. 0.99

01:04:38.000 Cause I will never come out there and get your ass off the field. 0.99

01:04:41.000 Now, if you're really hurt, that's a different thing. 0.98

01:04:44.000 But I, you know, and I can't tell you how many times after that, I, you know, that moment that them tell me that resonates just as if he just told me.

01:04:54.000 And I can't tell you how many times on the field, I was, you know, high school, college pros, where I was, yeah, I was dinged up.

01:05:03.000 And I really, that moment would be right there. 0.99

01:05:09.000 And it's like, get your ass up. 0.98

01:05:10.000 There's a difference between being hurt and injured. 0.98

01:05:14.000 And your team is counting on you.

01:05:17.000 The one thing I would say more than anything he instilled in me is the team is way more important than one guy.

01:05:23.000 And that is so true, especially in football.

01:05:25.000 And so I got my job because the guy in front of me hurt his ankle and came out.

01:05:33.000 And I come in and he's probably thinking I'll screw it up, which would have been a good assessment.

01:05:40.000 But I didn't.

01:05:41.000 And he never got his job back.

01:05:42.000 Nothing he did or didn't do.

01:05:44.000 He got injured.

01:05:45.000 So I can't tell you how many times I said, if you lay down on this field, you're giving someone else a chance to take your job.

01:05:55.000 And I would say, keep in mind how you got your job.

01:05:58.000 It can happen to you.

01:05:59.000 So I would get up off the turf every single time.

01:06:02.000 That's really, I mean, by the way, it's sort of what happened with, you know, another great, like Tom Brady.

01:06:06.000 I mean, I was watching, you know, that game when the Patriots were playing, when Drew Bledsoe was taken out.

01:06:13.000 And I was watching it with a bunch of guys, we were in like hunting camp, and I was watching it with a bunch of guys from Massachusetts, who I'll affectionately refer to as Mass Holes.

01:06:21.000 And, you know, for them, it was like the end of the world.

01:06:24.000 I'm like, well, I didn't really watch Patriots football, so it didn't matter.

01:06:27.000 I didn't think of Drew Bledsoe as this thing.

01:06:29.000 And this, you know, young kid quarterback comes in, Tom Brady, and, you know, who would have known that what was the most devastating things for these, like, diehard fans was actually, you know, the start of a dynasty.

01:06:43.000 Yeah. Well, you know, Kurt Warner's another one who's a friend of mine.

01:06:47.000 He was with me in Green Bay for a year.

01:06:49.000 Trent Green gets hurt.

01:06:52.000 They said, our season's over.

01:06:54.000 He leads them to the Super Bowl exactly like Tom Brady.

01:06:57.000 And there's two flies affected.

01:07:00.000 Yeah, I mean, that story about your dad is great.

01:07:16.000 I have some similar ones with mine like that, that they just You know, you don't know why, but it resonates and it's a driving force that makes you keep going.

01:07:25.000 So that's pretty amazing.

01:07:27.000 You had mentioned, sort of, obviously you have such a love for, you know, Wisconsin, you know, the fans over at, you know, for Green Bay.

01:07:35.000 You know, what was so special about playing at Lambeau Field for you?

01:07:39.000 Uh, I mean, it's really a sort of a small town with a football team.

01:07:44.000 Yeah. What is that like in Green Bay?

01:07:47.000 It's not like New York, right?

01:07:48.000 There's other things, you know, like that was, that's the epicenter of everything, isn't it?

01:07:52.000 Yeah. And it was, and I say this all the time.

01:07:55.000 It was, if you were there to play football, that was what you really wanted to do.

01:08:00.000 Yeah. Then there's no better place in the world to play football because they started off the evening news.

01:08:09.000 With the latest on the Packers.

01:08:11.000 They ended the news with the latest on the Packers.

01:08:15.000 What happened in the prior 15 minutes?

01:08:17.000 You know, everyone knew who you were.

01:08:20.000 I mean, it's a small town, so if you went out and ate, everyone knew about it.

01:08:24.000 But that was okay.

01:08:25.000 The people, and I think for me, it was a perfect fit because they're blue collar, I'm blue collar.

01:08:31.000 And, you know, I didn't play the game for them necessarily.

01:08:36.000 But I played it like they would have played it had they got a chance to play.

01:08:40.000 And I can't tell you how many times, more so today than any other time in my life, even though I'm 15 years removed from playing, I get this probably more than anything.

01:08:52.000 The game is missing the enthusiasm and the excitement that you brought.

01:08:58.000 It was like, I hear this one often.

01:09:01.000 Every touchdown pass you threw, and I threw 500 and something, every touchdown pass you threw, Seemed like Christmas morning to you.

01:09:09.000 It was the greatest thing.

01:09:11.000 And that's true.

01:09:13.000 You know, when I first heard that, I was like, you know, I never thought about it, but I was just excited about the last one as I was the first one.

01:09:21.000 And there doesn't seem to be that joy and excitement much in the league anymore.

01:09:29.000 But I think fans in general, whether you like me or not, could relate to that.

01:09:37.000 Yeah. You know,

01:10:06.000 it was a perfect fit.

01:10:09.000 Yeah. Do you think that, you know, sort of the money in the game?

01:10:11.000 Obviously, you did very well for yourself in the game, but it seems like, you know, every five years out, it's like an exponential shift, you know, towards, you know, more money when you look at some of these contracts being signed.

01:10:23.000 You know, do you think that has a role in sort of the change in the game to you?

01:10:30.000 Yeah, you know, I do, Don.

01:10:32.000 I really do.

01:10:33.000 So what?

01:10:34.000 What percentage?

01:10:35.000 I have no idea, but I think...

01:10:40.000 And the same can be said for college.

01:10:42.000 NIL, I can't say that I like it.

01:10:44.000 It is what it is.

01:10:45.000 But I think you take out of the equation the bonding of the team, the transfer portal, the $500 million contracts.

01:10:57.000 There's not a lot to strive for.

01:11:00.000 You know, if you get a guy that has a Tremendous contract like they're giving that, but plays the game like he's 12 years old.

01:11:08.000 You really found something special.

01:11:11.000 Yeah, you know, so I do think it's drastically, drastically affected the game today.

01:11:16.000 Yeah, you know, my daughter is a great athlete. 1.00

01:11:18.000 She's, you know, ranked, I think, in the top 75 in the NIL overall already.

01:11:23.000 So, you know, as a, you know, she's treating it sort of like a business as a way to monetize that for her future. 1.00

01:11:28.000 I like, I love that for her in a team sport.

01:11:31.000 It does seem like it's problematic, right?

01:11:33.000 You draft a great quarterback, you bring him to a college, he learns the game, someone offers him 10x the more money, you leave, you break up that entire dichotomy that the team was formed around this one player, and it does feel like it'll create a lot of chaos.

01:11:48.000 I get it.

01:11:48.000 I think the NCAA was definitely taking advantage of the name, image, and likeness of all of these people for a long period of time, but I don't know that what they came up with doesn't create Yeah,

01:12:13.000 absolutely. And I don't know Nick Saban personally, but his retiring press conference, he said it so clearly.

01:12:26.000 It used to be about Mentoring and seeing the maturation of, you know, a kid as he goes from a freshman to graduation and on to the pros.

01:12:37.000 And he said, you know, I would go into these homes and I would talk about what I would do with your son and how I would build him up over the years.

01:12:48.000 And he said, then it became, how much are you going to pay me coach?

01:12:52.000 It had nothing to do with all the stuff that led him to be a coach.

01:12:58.000 It was all about, what am I going to be paid?

01:13:01.000 Not even, am I going to start?

01:13:03.000 You know, just what kind of car are you going to give me?

01:13:06.000 And I just don't see any good in that.

01:13:09.000 Well, it also feels like it would, it's going to aggregate in, you know, you've forgotten more about this than I'll ever know, but it's also going to aggregate, you know, the top talent exclusively, you know, to the top, you know, five, 10 schools that can actually pay that.

01:13:21.000 And some of those other schools that could be great football schools, just, you know, Aren't going to even get a shot at that talent to be able to, so you're just going to have this sort of like three dominant teams that have all the, you know, best players.

01:13:32.000 And again, maybe it doesn't matter if they're not working as a team.

01:13:35.000 Uh, maybe, maybe that overrules, but you know, that talent per se.

01:13:39.000 Uh, but yeah, it feels like it's going to cause a lot of problems there as well for some of these smaller programs that have produced incredible players, uh, over the years, but it may not be, you know, it may not be Michigan.

01:13:50.000 Uh, you know, it may not be, you know, XYZ school.

01:13:54.000 I'll say it in relation to me.

01:13:57.000 I started as a true freshman at Southern Miss and it had the NIL been around and I got one off.

01:14:03.000 That one offer was Southern Miss, so it was an easy choice for me.

01:14:06.000 And I often think about or I get asked, what do you think you would have done had the NIL been in play then?

01:14:15.000 Let's just assume we were back in 1987 and I ended up starting and at the end of that year.

01:14:22.000 My body of work was good enough that Alabama or LSU or Ole Miss, Mississippi State, all the all the regional close teams said we're going to go for this kid.

01:14:34.000 We're going to give it.

01:14:35.000 We're offering 500,000 now.

01:14:38.000 My mom and dad were school teachers.

01:14:39.000 My mom taught special education in Mississippi for 35 years. 0.70

01:14:42.000 My dad was a driver's head and coach for 35 years.

01:14:46.000 And as you know, Mississippi's bottom tier and teacher.

01:14:51.000 Salaries. So that would have been a hard thing to not take.

01:14:56.000 Correct. But I may not be talking to you today because I may have gone there and just slipped through the cracks, wasting $500,000 like in three years or balling it maybe in a year, because that very easily could happen.

01:15:09.000 And then I'm scrambling around trying to find a job somewhere, teaching school and coaching high school football.

01:15:16.000 And what would have been is just a former dream.

01:15:21.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:22.000 Well, there's something to be said about, like, not letting 19-year-olds have unlimited sums of money, because, like, I remember when I was 19, it was like, I think the best thing my parents did, and I'm not saying I wasn't blessed, I'm not saying I wasn't spoiled, but, like, it wasn't like, here's whatever you want, because, like, kids are going to make really bad decisions more often than not.

01:15:42.000 Yeah, you know, you're absolutely 100% correct.

01:15:47.000 You can't blame the kid.

01:15:49.000 A 19 year old kid just buys a, or is given a, you know, a Lamborghini.

01:15:55.000 You can't blame the kid, but what, what does that teach you now?

01:16:00.000 In a positive way?

01:16:01.000 I don't, I don't need to regulate.

01:16:07.000 I mean, it's the wild, wild west, uh, in CAA right now.

01:16:10.000 No question.

01:16:13.000 What role, if any, does faith play in all of this for you when you reflect on your successes and how you're fighting this battle now with Parkinson's and working nonstop for better treatments and a cure?

01:16:27.000 How hard is that?

01:16:28.000 Can you find peace sort of in this new calling?

01:16:32.000 Absolutely. And, you know, growing up, I'm a Catholic kid, my mother and father, we always went to church.

01:16:40.000 And it was, you know, as a young kid, sometimes it doesn't resonate with you.

01:16:44.000 I mean, it was like something we had to do as a chore.

01:16:47.000 And we would, oh, you know, we don't want to go to church.

01:16:51.000 But then experiences in your life.

01:16:55.000 Perfect example, your dad.

01:16:57.000 You know, it's not for me to say he was a Christian or he wasn't a Christian.

01:17:02.000 That's beside the point.

01:17:04.000 Your dad almost died.

01:17:06.000 But in my view, by the grace of God, he was saved.

01:17:11.000 Now, some people may look at that differently, and that's fine.

01:17:15.000 I'm with you.

01:17:16.000 No matter how much faith you have or don't have, you look at that moment and you say, that's not a coincidence.

01:17:21.000 There's never a better moment to show someone that if there was ever the grace of God stepping in and showing mercy, it's that.

01:17:33.000 And I think your dad certainly recognizes it.

01:17:36.000 For me, you know, I can point to several.

01:17:39.000 I had a very bad pain pill addiction that I was taking 16 Vicodin ES at once every night for years.

01:17:48.000 I had two seizures, one during the season that no one knew about except the doctors on the team and Mike Holmgren.

01:17:56.000 Easily could have lost my life, easily could have lost my job.

01:18:01.000 But yeah, I overcame and I I shouldn't say it that way.

01:18:08.000 God and I, really God, gave me the ability or the wherewithal or the strength to overcome it.

01:18:16.000 Because I can't tell you how many times, Don, I tried.

01:18:19.000 I'm like, I'm done.

01:18:20.000 I'm done.

01:18:21.000 I'm flushing them down the toilet.

01:18:23.000 And then two weeks later, I'd go get another script.

01:18:27.000 And in two days, I would go through a month's script.

01:18:30.000 I mean, think about that.

01:18:33.000 But the best example for me is when my father passed away and I played against Oakland that night, several nights before Christmas.

01:18:41.000 And I tell people this, you know, there was a lot of talk, will he or won't he play?

01:18:47.000 I was going to play.

01:18:49.000 But what I was really concerned about was I wanted to play better.

01:18:53.000 I wanted to do something that I've never done in the game of football.

01:18:57.000 Now, that was 2004.

01:18:59.000 I'd been playing in Green Bay.

01:19:01.000 Since 92. So I've accumulated some pretty good statistics and games.

01:19:06.000 Yeah. But I prayed.

01:19:08.000 It was a Monday night game, so we were out there two days prior, and I just prayed and prayed.

01:19:13.000 I want to honor my father by doing something I've never done before.

01:19:17.000 Now, that's a tall task.

01:19:21.000 We're going in at halftime.

01:19:23.000 My statistics at halftime were better than any four quarters in history for me.

01:19:29.000 And I knew as I walked off the field at halftime, God answered my prayers.

01:19:35.000 And that made me more at peace with the whole deal.

01:19:40.000 But, you know, I tell people this as well, like becoming a Christian doesn't mean you're going to be perfect.

01:19:46.000 In fact, you're going to become out harder by evil.

01:19:51.000 You're going to be attacked and you're going to fail.

01:19:53.000 No, there's only one perfect person that ever walked this earth, and that was Jesus Christ.

01:19:58.000 Don't think that you have to be perfect, or you're going to be perfect.

01:20:01.000 Being a Christian is not going to be cool anymore, because you're going to fail. 1.00

01:20:08.000 You're going to get knocked down.

01:20:10.000 You've got to get back up and stay with it.

01:20:14.000 When you recognize that, and then recognize different experiences in your life, you can say, I don't know if that was me.

01:20:23.000 I can't say that that was me that put up those statistics in two quarters.

01:20:27.000 That I've never even come close to in any game prior to.

01:20:32.000 So, you know, I hated that my father passed away, but there's always good that comes out of bad.

01:20:41.000 There's no question about it.

01:20:43.000 And that's God's lesson.

01:20:45.000 Well, that's really important.

01:20:46.000 I'm really glad you could honor him that way.

01:20:48.000 I'm sure he was very proud of you before then, but that was a little icing on the cake.

01:20:54.000 Right, right.

01:20:55.000 Well, Brett, thank you so much for the time, your incredible story.

01:20:59.000 Look forward to seeing what you continue to do with the administration as it relates to the health and well-being of our children and physical fitness and everything else that you're doing on Parkinson's Research.

01:21:10.000 So thank you so much for just staying involved, never giving up, never quitting, and fighting.

01:21:16.000 That takes a lot of guts and you're doing an awesome job with it.

01:21:20.000 My family loves your family and we think the world of all of you and where your dad is leading this country and what you're doing.

01:21:27.000 Thanks for having me on.

01:21:28.000 You know, we said this last time, we're going to hunt together.

01:21:31.000 Yeah, we got it.

01:21:31.000 We got to make that happen.

01:21:32.000 Yeah, this year was a little bit.

01:21:33.000 I lost so much of my hunting season because we were focusing on saving the free world with this election.

01:21:38.000 But next season, I'm in.

01:21:41.000 So let's get together this fall and make it happen, buddy.

01:21:44.000 You bet, Don.

01:21:45.000 Thank you.

01:21:45.000 Good to see you.

01:21:46.000 You too.

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Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - April 03, 2025

New Era of Fair Trade Plus Interview with Brett Favre | TRIGGERED Ep.230

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