On today's episode of Triggered, we take a deep dive into all things energy and power with the future founder and energy expert, Daniel Turner. Plus, a look at the latest in the Trump administration on trade with Japan.
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00:08:56.000And just breaking tonight, Treasury Secretary Scott Besson said that there are almost 70 countries who have now approached the administration about negotiating on trade.
00:09:08.000This is what maximum leverage looks like, folks.
00:09:44.000And if President Trump, again, gave himself maximum negotiating leverage, and just when he achieved the maximum leverage, he's willing to start talking.
00:09:56.000Remember what this is all about, guys.
00:09:58.000For decades, we have lost the value that used to make the American dream real for American families.
00:10:05.000And Trump trade policy is about restoring that American dream From Main Street, here's my father laying it all out in the Oval Office earlier today.
00:10:15.000Because prices got so high, people couldn't live.
00:10:19.000I mean, the prices for groceries, the prices for standard groceries, standard things were going through the roof.
00:10:52.000So our budget's going to look a lot better because interest costs are way down.
00:10:55.000And despite the nonstop efforts to put this country into a panic by the media and the swamp, There's actually business owners and employees across the country that are excited about the opportunities ahead.
00:11:18.000And more than just holding the line on prices, Orsini said he sees the need for Trump's tariffs, which the president says are a way to help rebuild America's industrial base, including the auto industry.
00:11:29.000You drive up to Michigan or go to these places where the American cars were being built years ago, it's very dead up there now.
00:11:36.000A lot of empty buildings, a lot of empty factories.
00:11:38.000We didn't have to go all the way to Michigan to find a manufacturer hurt by foreign competition.
00:11:44.000The president of Taconic Wire in North Brantford told us her family business, which produces stitching wire for a range of industries, has lost clients to China for years, and they're already seeing a turnaround.
00:11:55.000around. We've actually been inundated with our customers calling in now looking to buy wire from us once again now that the tier.
00:12:06.000There's a reason groups like the United Auto Workers, the Steel Manufacturers Association, and others have all praised my father's policy.
00:12:15.000Here's one beef cattle rancher explaining why he sees this as all good news.
00:12:21.000Well, the European community has been a big market that we'd love to get to, and certainly Australia is another one that sells lots of beef here in the United States, but we don't get to sell to them.
00:12:35.000How does this moment in time feel like a game changer for your industry?
00:12:39.000Well, I think we're happy that the president finally singled us out and said that we do need to increase our beef sales to other countries, and that he's going to try and make an effort to do that.
00:12:50.000So it'll be a great time for our industry if we can sell more and have a better market and higher prices.
00:13:00.000Guys, we're doing what the no-show politicians have refused to do for decades, fighting back against the one-sided war that has been waged on American workers.
00:13:09.000And guys, remember, there's no tariffs if you're onshoring jobs and making things right here in the good old USA.
00:13:16.000For example, just look at this statement.
00:13:19.000From a battery company in Texas that reads, quote, No tariffs in Texas.
00:13:23.000Energy Access Innovations launches a 310,000 square foot facility in Texas, adding that thanks to President Trump's strong leadership, we're investing big in American manufacturing.
00:13:39.000We're putting the American worker first, and the rest of the world is getting the message, even though they may not always like it.
00:13:47.000Here's French President Macron actually telling French companies to stop investing in the United States.
00:13:53.000we will be able to find out the latest news from President Trump, which is a shock for international commerce, not just for the European Union, France, but for the good work of
00:14:26.000that the investment announced these last weeks, they are suspended until we haven't clarified the things with the United States and the United States.
00:14:26.000Because what would be the message of having great European actors who invest in the economy Well, guys, if that's the game, maybe we should immediately cancel the $5 billion U.S. loan for France's Total Energy's African project.
00:14:40.000which is a liquid natural gas project in Africa.
00:14:43.000We're not going to be taking advantage any longer.
00:14:46.000If they want to play those games, we can play them right back.
00:14:48.000The reality is we're the bigger consumer.
00:14:50.000They need us probably a lot more than we need them.
00:14:52.000And by the way, before Trump derangement syndrome consumed every corner of the Democrat Party, they actually supported tariffs and actually wanted to be tough on China.
00:15:04.000Here's Nancy Pelosi, of all people, in her own words.
00:15:10.000I think it's interesting to note that the average U.S. MFN tariff on Chinese goods coming into the United States is 2%, whereas the average Chinese MFN tariff on U.S. goods going into China is 35%.
00:15:54.000I guess according to Democrats, Obama was a MAGA extremist.
00:16:00.000In which they were flooding us with cheap domestic tires, or cheap Chinese tires.
00:16:06.000and we put a stop to it and as a consequence save jobs throughout America I have to say that governor Romney criticized me for being too tough in that tire case said this wouldn't be good for American workers and that it would be protectionist but I tell you those workers don't feel that way they feel as if they had finally an administration who was going to take this issue serious My father's been talking about tariffs since the 1980s.
00:16:34.000He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do.
00:16:37.000And by the way, this is just phase one.
00:16:40.000The media wants you to believe that the world is ending, but this evening, the Dow, Nasdaq, they were pretty close to even.
00:16:47.000I saw some losses, I saw some gains, I saw it go back and forth, but it wasn't the dread, it wasn't the insanity, it wasn't the dump that you heard about all weekend long.
00:16:58.000Here's Scott Jennings delivering his daily dose of reality on CNN.
00:17:05.000He's been talking about tariffs for a very long time.
00:17:08.000And right now, according to the Treasury Secretary, we have over 50 countries who've already come to the table and want to engage with the United States and talk about how we can have a more fair free trade relationship with them.
00:17:29.000Cut the capital gains tax and offer to slash the corporate tax rate and see if you can get any Democrats to join because I'm amused by the Democrats who are all of a sudden free traders and for lower taxes.
00:17:39.000"Well, if you've got Democrats who'd like to reduce the taxation on corporate activity, let's see how serious they are.
00:17:45.000Cut capital gains, slash the corporate income tax rate." I find it amusing that everybody talks about the'08 crash and the co-no one ever mentions that in 2022, you know, the S&P was down 20, the NASDAQ was down 33, and I don't remember any of these Democrats being in history.
00:17:59.000And speaking of delusion, left-wing activists still think they can openly defy our laws and get away with it.
00:18:09.000Here's an illegal immigrant bragging about being here illegally on national television.
00:20:17.000So we're seeing oil prices come down, investment into America go up, and a mission to reverse the damage done over decades to strengthen our energy infrastructure.
00:20:28.000How does the tariff policy tie into all of that, in your opinion?
00:20:32.000Yeah, oil is really at an important moment right now.
00:20:36.000Actually, just a couple hours ago, we put out a statement asking for the president to refill the strategic petroleum reserves.
00:20:43.000Seems like a good time to do it below 60, right?
00:20:45.000Exactly. Biden drained them during his four years to less than a third.
00:20:51.000We really have very little oil supply.
00:20:54.000He promised to refill them at $72 a barrel.
00:20:58.000Well, with oil at 60, 61, now is a really good time to refill them.
00:21:02.000But the tariffs are absolutely going to play a role in this.
00:21:05.000You look at the previous administration that tried to, made a huge effort to import oil from Iran, from Venezuela, from the Saudis.
00:21:13.000Joe Biden went to Saudi Arabia begging for oil.
00:21:17.000When we have enough domestic potential here.
00:21:20.000And so I think that the tariffs will definitely help to spur domestic oil production.
00:21:26.000We don't need to be looking overseas to bring in crude when we have enough crude on our own feet.
00:21:33.000We just need the policies and the permissions in place to be able to bring it to market.
00:21:46.000How will the next four years under President Trump be our opportunity to unleash American energy and make rural America great again?
00:21:54.000Yeah, coal is why I started Power the Future.
00:21:56.000It's really where the heart of this organization is because for years we watched coal miners just get devastated during the Obama administration with the war on coal.
00:22:07.000And just as perspective, America used to be the world's largest producer of coal.
00:22:20.000We're not producing coal and no one is.
00:22:22.000It's that our slice of the pie has just gotten smaller and smaller while the pie has gotten larger.
00:22:28.000And I've struggled with this notion that it's bad for America to produce coal, but it's fine for nine-year-old girls in Indonesia and Malaysia and China to produce coal.
00:22:40.000And that's a lot of what these tariffs are pointing out, these globalist policies that say, let's offshore industry because it's cheap to use slave labor.
00:22:49.000It's cheap to pay children when you don't have to pay insurance and do training and give them safety goggles and helmets.
00:22:55.000And so we've decimated rural America, rural coal towns, and we've turned a blind eye to the fact that the coal industry is thriving using abominable environmental and human rights policies to, We need coal desperately.
00:23:23.000We need it for almost everything around you.
00:23:25.000At one point was touched by coal and having more domestic coal will lower those prices for all goods and services.
00:23:33.000So coal is crucial and coal miners are crucial to our economy.
00:23:38.000Yeah, and it sort of feels like all the other things, whether it's lithium or the other things that go into batteries or whatever it may be around the world.
00:23:44.000I mean, we could have it here, but we won't do it.
00:23:46.000But we let them do it, and we know the other countries, whether it's India or China or otherwise, they're not going to do anything in an environmentally positive way.
00:23:54.000I mean, in America, you wouldn't even have a choice.
00:23:56.000So we could do it, and it's not like our coal reserves are non-existent just because perhaps we started harvesting coal a little bit earlier than a lot of the other industrial nations.
00:24:05.000We have incredible coal reserves, don't we?
00:24:08.000Oh, we have centuries of coal reserves in just Pennsylvania and Wyoming.
00:24:13.000Alaska is basically one large lump of coal.
00:24:16.000So many of our reserves, we don't even know how much we have because we're not allowed to explore.
00:24:22.000People say, how many millions of barrels or billions of barrels do we have?
00:24:26.000We have guesstimates, but there are parts of the country that we've never been able to properly explore and we don't really know how much we have.
00:24:34.000And those are centuries of known reserves at today's So I don't know what tomorrow is going to bring.
00:24:41.000I call the organization Power the Future for a reason.
00:24:43.000I don't know what tomorrow's discovery will be.
00:24:47.000But I do know right now we live a really intense fossil fuel lifestyle.
00:24:52.000And if we punish ourselves now, we're not going to have a better tomorrow.
00:24:56.000We're going to have a worse off now and poverty and misery.
00:25:13.000So why would we want to pursue more of those policies which just brought misery worldwide?
00:25:19.000Yeah, and it seems like with quantum computing, AI, all of the things that really are going to drive so much of the future, if we don't have the power to be able to We'll destroy our middle class and
00:25:48.000our tech advantage while they make all the power in the world, while they pollute with reckless abandon.
00:26:17.000So yeah, if you're going to build these centers, you're going to turn to other countries, you know, maybe China, but maybe just one of our allies, maybe just not America.
00:26:26.000I have no dislike for Canada or I have no dislike for New Zealand, but I want it to be built here.
00:26:32.000And they're only going to be built here if we have the necessary energy infrastructure.
00:26:37.000And we're in a terrible position right now because of four years of really regressive anti-energy policies.
00:26:43.000So the president, his agenda will work, but it's going to take a while to turn around this ship because of how much damage was done to our energy economy and energy infrastructure.
00:26:55.000Yeah, I mean, is it as simple as just sort of spooling back up what went down, or is it more complicated than that?
00:27:11.000I mean, nuclear, obviously another viable option, but that's probably even a longer ramp-up period unless you get really active in the small modular reactor space, etc.
00:27:20.000You know, this is a complicated issue, and that's why this White House Energy Dominance Council is so important, because we need all of government solution for an issue, for a problem set that comes from every direction, right?
00:27:31.000The Biden administration punished lenders in the fossil fuel industry.
00:27:35.000Gary Gensler, when he was head of the SEC, told the banking industry, if you loan to the fossil fuel community, we're going to punish you with higher base points on lending, right?
00:28:24.000And yet these unelected bureaucrats, talk about unelected bureaucrats, these unelected bureaucrats gave a French company $5 billion to build a pipeline in Africa that's directly going to compete.
00:28:41.000Who are these entities that are thwarting America's fossil fuel?
00:28:46.000by look, I got no animosity towards Mozambique, but I'll be damned if I want to have them compete with the energy industry coming from Texas and Yeah, I mean, you had a viral tweet last week showing just that.
00:28:59.000It was French President Macron telling French companies to stop investing in the U.S. I think that's where I saw the original story and I spoke about it in sort of the intro.
00:29:33.000And the president pointed out something that was brilliant and really had Europe seething because he pointed out how Europe has bought more Russian fossil fuels in terms of Euro than they have given to Ukraine.
00:29:48.000To defend against the Russian invasion in terms of Euro.
00:29:50.000So when Europe looks at us and says, how come you're not supporting Ukraine?
00:30:15.000You know, through a pass-off, back to France, back to Italy, back to Spain, back to Germany.
00:30:21.000So Europe is a disaster on so many levels, but on their energy policy, you know, they've been doing for 30 years what Biden did in four, and for 30 years it's been a disaster.
00:31:22.000I mean, the disdain that they showed my father, I think it was the first term when he was like, wait a minute, you want us to ramp up our spending on NATO?
00:31:30.000To protect you from the enemy who you're enriching with your pipelines rather than taking it from us?
00:31:35.000Where we could at least, if we're going to protect you, we're going to spend all that money for, you know, not much upside certainly to us.
00:31:42.000And they like laughed at him in the face.
00:31:43.000And I guess it's because they got away with it for so long.
00:31:47.000No one ever, you know, held them in check.
00:31:50.000I guess they were just used to America being the big idiot, no different than Ukraine funding.
00:31:54.000They're all for defending Ukraine as long as they're not the ones writing the check.
00:32:00.000The second they're the ones that have to write the check or bear some sort of responsibility towards that, all of a sudden the notion of defending Ukraine isn't as popular in Europe as it is when America's just going to be the big dumb idiot that comes and funds it all for them.
00:32:14.000And the best thing that this president has done, and now he's doing it for a second time, is restore that sense of American pride and unabashed, unashamed confidence of our dominance.
00:32:27.000It's not enough that we just win the Olympic golds.
00:32:30.000It's not enough that we wave our flag or people think we're brash or loud when we're touring the Coliseum.
00:32:36.000We are the greatest country on the planet.
00:32:38.000We are the richest country and the most powerful.
00:32:40.000And we deserve to live that in every aspect.
00:32:43.000And that includes in our trade policies.
00:32:45.000And I think the Europeans, they like us because they know we'll always pick up the tab, right?
00:32:50.000Everyone has that one friend that you invite to dinner because you assume they'll be generous.
00:32:54.000Or everyone has that one friend that you say, hey, why don't you bring the wine?
00:32:57.000Because you know they'll buy really good wine.
00:33:00.000And then everyone has the one friend that's never going to chip in.
00:33:03.000Exactly. And that's who we've been for Europe for a very long time, literally since World War II.
00:33:09.000And I think we're done playing that role.
00:33:12.000And this is the first president in a long time ever, really, since World War II, that said not only should we not play that role, the Europeans should be thanking us for our contribution in the world.
00:33:23.000President Trump's given Americans a lot of confidence and a lot of moxie, and we've needed that for generations.
00:33:36.000But hold fast, boys, because we are poised for greatness right now.
00:33:40.000And it really is thanks to the president having the confidence in the American people and these industries that has restored that confidence back to ourselves.
00:33:49.000Daniel, more broadly, what's the opportunity here to reshape our energy sector and hold our adversaries accountable?
00:33:55.000Biden was granting oil licenses to Maduro, literally, while killing American projects and even Canadian projects, but at least they are regimes that are recognized by the United States, unlike Venezuela.
00:34:12.000Talk about what you see as the impact of that.
00:34:14.000What are the other things that perhaps they're not thinking of doing just yet that they should add into the quiver?
00:34:20.000Yeah, there's a question I'll have for God if I ever get to heaven, which is why is sometimes the oil found under the feet of the worst actors in the world, right?
00:34:31.000We have enormous oil reserves, and we're the good guy.
00:34:34.000And Canada has a lot of oil, and they're the good guys.
00:34:37.000But a lot of folks that have oil are bad.
00:34:39.000And unabashedly, they're bad regimes, they're bad governments.
00:34:43.000And that's Russia, that's a lot of the Middle East, that's definitely Venezuela.
00:34:48.000And there's a reason why those regions were quiet from 2017 to 2021, and it's because they were pretty much bankrupt.
00:34:55.000When these petro-state economies, when 70-80% of your economy comes from one resource, well, when that resource isn't flourishing, I think?
00:35:07.000America, it's a smaller percentage of our GDP, but also American producers like to produce on volume, not on price point.
00:35:15.000So if you have multiple wells at $50 a barrel, that's better than having one well at $100 a barrel.
00:35:21.000But it's different if you're a Venezuela or the Saudis or the Iranians or the Russians.
00:35:27.000So the best thing for world peace, the best thing for American energy is to produce, to produce as much as possible to lower price points It's good for American families.
00:35:38.000It's good for the purchasing of goods and services.
00:35:56.000And those countries, when they have money, Venezuela sent us their criminals, Iran attacked Israel, and Russia invaded Ukraine.
00:36:04.000World peace is possible through great energy policy.
00:36:09.000The president did it in his first term.
00:36:11.000He's starting to do it again, and the world will go quiet when bad people are bankrupt.
00:36:17.000So what about the threat of 25% secondary tariff to anyone buying oil from Venezuela?
00:36:24.000They're buying it and or distributing it back, so it looks like it's not coming from Venezuela.
00:36:28.000I'm sure that could be applied to whether it's Chinese aluminum that gets sent to Mexico and then it's shipped across the border under NAFTA, pretending it's Mexican as opposed to actually Chinese, just with an intermediary.
00:36:41.000Is that a direct message, do you think, to China, the secondary tariff system?
00:36:47.000Should it rise beyond energy and should it?
00:36:49.000Absolutely. And that's the biggest vulnerability of the CCP is they do not have a domestic oil supply.
00:36:56.000They import around 20 million barrels a day, and they are desperately trying to find secure oil supplies as part of their belt system.
00:37:06.000They're making huge pipelines over to Pakistan.
00:37:10.000A lot of the Pakistan-India violence is fomented by China because China wants reliable oil supplies.
00:37:18.000China's lack of oil infrastructure is a huge vulnerability that the president So punishing people who are buying oil From the no-no list, and that includes now Venezuela, that will really hurt their economy.
00:37:32.000The Chinese economy today took a nosedive, and that's really good, right?
00:37:37.000That is very, very good that if China as a country begins to suffer, because China is our biggest enemy by far, and energy policy can be just what Reagan did during the Cold War, President Trump is doing it.
00:37:51.000But rather than military spending, he's energy deregulating, and it will have the exact same effect.
00:37:58.000Yeah, and that's what was so frustrating to me about the Biden policy is all the sanctions they did on Russia basically just pushed Russia into China's arms.
00:38:24.000They could build up their industrial base, even if it was mostly building weapons.
00:38:27.000And they did that because of the U.S. sanctions increased the price of oil so much they were just playing in the delta.
00:38:33.000Yeah, and our also domestic policy that cut off our responsible access to land, permitting, removing millions of acres from Alaska, the heartland, the Gulf, the Atlantic, the Pacific.
00:38:48.000So his domestic policy was driving up prices, and then his foreign policy was encouraging people to buy Russian oil and gas.
00:38:56.000So again, you look at this administration, there was no policy.
00:39:29.000I mean, it almost feels like what they did was intentionally just destroy our energy sector and all the consequences associated there with.
00:39:35.000I mean, we had all these things and all of a sudden we become dependent on Iran, the world's leading state sponsor of Terra and Venezuela, as I mentioned earlier, a regime they hadn't even recognized officially.
00:39:51.000While, by the way, telling the American people very clearly at the debate that they would never do such things, even though it ends up being executive order number one.
00:39:58.000Exactly. The very first day, he shut down a lot of our oil and gas.
00:40:14.000Just think of the physicality of moving these rigs, right, or drills, assembling them, the man hours, the manpower, the millions of tens of millions of dollars in financing.
00:40:33.000I tell people all the time when they're anxious, like, when are we going to see it?
00:40:36.000I say, well, President Trump was inaugurated in 2017, and by early 2018, mid-2018 is when it kicked in.
00:40:48.000Hotels, restaurant, retail, travel, because people were flush with cash, and oil was at $51 a barrel, and gas nationally was around $2 a gallon.
00:40:59.000The president's working as hard as he can, but just the physicality of this industry getting ramped up takes some time, and that's the damage that Biden did.
00:41:08.000It's lasting damage that's going to take a while to dig out of this ditch.
00:41:12.000Yeah, so realistically speaking, how do you get Keystone Pipeline going again?
00:41:17.000I mean, you have this, you know, monster thing.
00:41:53.000These things, you can't just turn off four years of insanity and expect results, and yet it sort of feels like we've been programmed that way.
00:42:00.000Everything's sort of at the tip of our fingers and we can get instant gratification on a phone in two seconds, but that's not how it works in the real world.
00:42:17.000My organization, Power of the Future, is trying to find one.
00:42:20.000And here's what Joe Biden did, and I've written extensively about this.
00:42:25.000Keystone didn't just cancel a pipeline.
00:42:27.000Keystone set a precedent to the industry that any long-term project that will last longer than an election cycle is now at risk.
00:42:37.000And no knock to the president at all or to the future of this country, but if you're a multi-billion dollar project, are you going to invest again in a pipeline that's going to take six years knowing that in 2028 Gavin Newsom is going to run for president saying, and when I'm elected, I am going to shut down that pipeline.
00:42:57.000I'm not going to put $8 billion on the line on that.
00:43:00.000So Joe Biden did something so pernicious and so bad.
00:43:28.000But he scared the crap out of industry going forward because even though we're confident that the future is going to be bright, no one knows what's going to happen in 2028.
00:43:46.000That's the damage Joe Biden did to this country.
00:43:49.000Yeah, well, I actually feel that way about a lot of things.
00:43:51.000I mean, I think my father's doing incredible work with some of the executive orders and getting things rolling, but you don't want something that can just be undone with the stroke of the pen.
00:43:57.000You talk about sort of the legislative option.
00:43:59.000You know, how with a, you know, let's call it a three-seat majority in Congress, I don't know what you need in the Senate to get something like this done.
00:44:06.000But are there any Democrats that would go along with this?
00:44:09.000Do you lose some of the rhinos to sign something into law to enable this pipeline to be there so that people know it can't just be undone by a president?
00:44:18.000Yeah, there are a couple who I think you could sway, and as you get closer to 2026, there are a couple who are going to be up for re-election, and they want to keep their seat.
00:44:26.000So you take a little guy like John Ossoff in Georgia, who's right now, his voting record on energy is atrocious.
00:44:33.000He voted against every cabinet member of the big three, Energy, Interior, EPA.
00:44:38.000He's voted against every energy proposal, but you assume he's going to want to be re-elected, and so you have to peel him off, right?
00:44:46.000John Fetterman seems to be voting pro-energy.
00:44:52.000I hate, though, that we have to tie it into elections.
00:44:55.000You have to shame these Democrats into saying, this is good for the country.
00:44:59.000And if you represent New Mexico, second largest energy producer in the country, two Democrat senators, atrocious records when it comes to energy.
00:46:06.000His announcements on liquid natural gas have been great.
00:46:10.000That's a huge reversal of where we were and building these liquid natural gas terminals, which requires pipelines, which requires infrastructures and jobs.
00:46:19.000We have so much natural gas in this country that in a lot of places they're just burning it because they can't bring it to market.
00:46:26.000And that's ridiculous because it is valuable.
00:46:29.000We should be using this and giving it to our allies, quite frankly, as well.
00:46:54.000I don't, when I say electricity should be almost free, I don't mean it in this communist sense, like the government.
00:47:01.000But electricity should be an afterthought because we have so many natural resources to produce electricity.
00:47:08.000No one should ever struggle to pay an electric bill.
00:47:11.000Companies should be able to build all the manufacturing plants they want because electricity is so inexpensive.
00:47:17.000So there's a lot that Chris Wright is doing to take us in that direction.
00:47:21.000And that's going to be great for families, great for industry.
00:47:25.000Yeah, no, I mean, like I said, I'm sort of really fascinated by sort of the small module reactor space.
00:47:30.000It's something you can do, you know, relatively quickly.
00:47:33.000You can, you know, it doesn't have sort of the big infrastructure of these massive plants that you do, you know, I don't think we'd be dumb enough to build them on fault lines anymore, like perhaps we did in the 50s, and maybe we just didn't know.
00:47:43.000So I think you can actually do nuclear really safely.
00:47:46.000But it does seem that it needs to contain things that sort of burns not hot enough to create sort of the fallout that you've seen in the bad examples of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, whatever it was, that it seems like a really viable option that can be just on property for these data centers or whatever else it may be.
00:48:31.000And secondly, there are how many hundreds of thousands of 18-year-old Iowa farm boys who are on aircraft carriers and in submarines that are powered by nuclear.
00:48:40.000And no one ever says, we can't have kids next to nuclear reactors.
00:48:44.000We have no problem sending in 18- and 19-year-olds to work on Navy ships that are nuclear-powered without an afterthought, because clearly nuclear is safe.
00:48:54.000So not only is our military nuclear safe, why aren't our...
00:49:00.000Across Pacific, across Atlantic, cargo containers nuclear-powered.
00:49:03.000Imagine cruise ships that could be nuclear-powered.
00:49:42.000Every tanker, every major ship would probably benefit from a nuclear reactor engine that would run for decades, doesn't have any issues, yada, yada, yada.
00:49:51.000We have submarines and people can go under for a year, and yet they're burning literally gallons a minute of fossil fuels.
00:50:02.000It seems like a great viable alternative.
00:50:04.000But I'd love your thoughts on that generally, but then also just the general climate change.
00:50:09.000I'm starting to laugh because I think one of the great discoveries of the Doge initiative and really...
00:50:21.000Peeling back the layers of this poison onion that we call the federal government.
00:50:25.000I don't even think climate activism is real.
00:50:28.000I think the whole thing is taxpayer funded.
00:50:30.000You look at these billions of dollars of grants that were funneled through USAID, that were funneled through the EPA.
00:50:37.000I've always known, and I fight the climate activists for a living, I've always been curious as to their funding, right?
00:50:44.000They always seem to be disproportionately...
00:50:46.000Wealthy. And I know people like John Kerry and Michael Bloomberg write multi-million dollar checks.
00:50:51.000But there are too many climate groups with too much money.
00:51:00.000Well, by the way, that's just like every election cycle.
00:51:02.000It's like, how does every Democrat congressperson running for Congress have 10x the Republican?
00:51:07.000And you realize it's now all these NGO kickbacks probably to ActBlue.
00:51:10.000I guess we'll find that out in the not-too-distant future if the Republicans have the guts and, you know, I'll say, have the balls to look into it.
00:51:17.000Yeah, there was a PAC that announced, I think, I reckon September of last year, that announced $80 million, a climate PAC, $80 million for Kamala and for Democrats to promote climate awareness.
00:51:30.000And if you've been in the campaign space, and I know clearly you have, and I have, an $80 million...
00:52:13.000The GOP definitely, and I'll say it with you, needs the balls to go after these guys and say, your act blue is all a bunch of fraud.
00:52:20.000Your climate money is all a bunch of fraud and grift.
00:52:23.000There's a lot of stolen money stolen from the taxpayers to scare the crap out of kids and young people and elderly that climate change is going to get you.
00:52:32.000We can have a healthy conversation about the environment, about CO2, about land and air.
00:52:38.000And I'm talking to you on a small farm in rural Virginia.
00:52:42.000I breathe my own air and have my own land and have my own well water.
00:52:46.000No one has to tell me to be an environmentalist because I'm a farmer.
00:53:25.000I mean, the amount of energy you can produce with, let's call it, little to almost no waste today in a modern reactor.
00:53:34.000The reality, we haven't built modern reactors for...
00:53:37.000So, you know, perhaps that doesn't exist.
00:53:39.000So, I mean, talk a little bit about that just so people understand, you know, perhaps what they've been sold is not at all what's actually real currently.
00:54:32.000But the amount of electricity and the amount of energy produced scaled to their downfall, to their drawback, to their emissions or their waste is not even in the same ballpark of the amount of damage of wind and solar to the environment and to the economy for the little itty bitty bitty tiny bit of electricity they produce.
00:54:54.000So if you want to maintain the current lifestyle that you have, we are never going to achieve it with wind and solar.
00:55:37.000Well, made in a not so environmentally friendly way either.
00:55:40.000I mean, if people understood what goes into making these turbines, it's like, you know, the amount of...
00:55:45.000The amount of waste that they generate for whatever turbines they could, you know, meet the specs of a nuclear reactor, probably not even close.
00:55:53.000No, and with child and slave labor, and I don't find that very environmentally friendly, right?
00:55:59.000There's a reason why we make solar panels in China is because they are very carbon intense.
00:56:04.000You have to burn a lot of coal, by the way, and China doesn't have any scrubbers.
00:56:08.000They don't care about groundwater contamination.
00:56:11.000So then the solar industry says, well, if you tariff us, we're not going to be able to have solar panels.
00:56:16.000Well, I'm tired of you outsourcing your slave labor and your environmental practices to the third world.
00:56:24.000If you want to make solar panels, make them responsibly here in America, and then people will realize that they're useless, that we shouldn't just stick with fossil fuels, which are great.
00:56:33.000Yeah, Daniel, I guess we've seen how much of a sort of green news scam this all really is.
00:56:37.000You look at California, and even just breaking ground there is a challenge.
00:56:43.000What's the EPA doing to overhaul that?
00:56:45.000I've seen a lot of the things coming out of Lee Zeldin over there.
00:56:47.000I mean, it seems like he's just getting rid of all of the nonsense, you know, and I'm sure there's plenty of nonsense.
00:56:53.000I'm sure there's plenty of good stuff that he's keeping.
00:56:55.000But what's the EPA doing that you're seeing to overhaul?
00:56:58.000Yeah, Lee Zeldin, he is the cabinet member, I think, who's come out swinging the hardest.
00:57:05.000And he's been remarkable in a very short period of time.
00:57:13.000As he took the role, how much damage the EPA was doing, hiding again behind, we just want clean air and clean water.
00:57:22.000When it comes to California particularly, there's a legislative fix that I know the administrator is following that will no longer allow California to have a waiver for EPA.
00:57:32.000So a little known fact, without getting too nerdy, every time the EPA passes a rule, we're going to change the standards on this, on fuel, on emissions, on whatever it is.
00:57:44.000California doesn't have to listen to the EPA.
00:57:46.000And the reason why is so that people like Gavin Newsom can then go on TV and say, well, the EPA administered that rule and we have had no effect on our economy because they don't get punished by the EPA the way other states do.
00:58:03.000How did California get some sort of sovereignty that the other states don't have the benefit of?
00:58:07.000Exactly. The reason why is because they know that if California had to follow these rules, their economy would tank.
00:58:14.000So California gets a waiver so that their economy can stay somewhat afloat and that they can also then claim that these new EPA standards don't punish their state.
00:58:25.000We wrote about it in a white paper at the beginning of the end of last year in preparation for this new administration to say California's waiver needs to be completely repealed.
00:58:37.000And I know that's something the administrator is working on with Congress, because California gets to thwart a lot of the rules the rest of us have to live by.
00:58:48.000It's kind of like, again, the XM Bank funding this pipeline in California.
00:58:52.000There are structures in D.C. that punish us.
00:58:57.000There are structures in D.C. With our own money.
00:59:00.000With our own money that perpetuate deceit and fraud and lies, whether it's about climate, whether it's about global trade or foreign aid, right?
00:59:11.000There are these structures that do so much damage to our country and to our economy.
00:59:16.000And these structures are what the president is taking on.
00:59:21.000But, oh, that's why these people are so damn angry.
00:59:24.000So angry they're setting things on fire, which is what they normally do when they're angry anyway.
00:59:30.000Yeah. I mean, I guess we shouldn't be surprised, but the people who used to love Teslas are now having more fun.
00:59:36.000Because they're environmentally friendly, have no problem literally burning lithium batteries to the ground, lighting tires on fire, setting entire dealerships up.
01:00:57.000And, you know, this is like 2017, 2018.
01:01:00.000You know, before it became that big, but that was like Twitter 1.0 when it was totally dominated by the left.
01:01:05.000And even then, I'd say this, and people are like, oh, I hate Don Jr. so much, but he's 100% right.
01:01:10.000Like, they literally couldn't believe they agreed with me on something.
01:01:13.000I'm like, so then when I see this thing become this, you know, it was beyond reproach.
01:01:18.000You must, you know, gender affirming care is the greatest thing in the world, and men playing women's sports is totally normal, and there's no advantage.
01:01:24.000And then I was like, No one actually believed this, because when it was a 90-10 conversation left to right, they didn't believe it then.
01:01:32.000They certainly don't now, and yet I think we now, I imagine most of the funding for that was coming from as well.
01:02:10.000It was like, it's more than they would make in the free market by a lot.
01:02:14.000And yet, here's a grant from the government to keep doing your stuff.
01:02:17.000And then you realize, the second those grants were in there, you understand now why they hated Trump so much, because they realized that's a threat to that future grant and whatever other agenda they were pushing.
01:02:26.000And the big risk now, which is where, and this is where the president has a backbone and will not back down, but something the Biden administration did realize is that even Republicans like free money and free crap.
01:02:39.000And as the president tries to take away the free crap and the free money, you're going to see some Republicans cave and say, well, Mr. President, we do need our green tax credits here because without that, they're all a little bit on the dole.
01:02:53.000Biden gave out so much money for so many years that he got Republicans hooked on it.
01:02:57.000And that's going to be a problem when it comes to energy projects and climate projects, because every Republican governor, for the most part, likes free money from the federal government.
01:03:08.000And this is where it's going to be a huge clash as the president tries to rein in this insane budget that we have.
01:03:14.000There's a lot of free money getting passed around and it has to come to an end.
01:03:18.000It's poisoned the economy and it's also made Republicans weak.
01:03:36.000A lot of people are really interested in this conversation where they can see what you guys are doing, where they can get involved.
01:03:41.000A big part of this thing is like, you know, we can talk about it, but other people have to help spread that message and educate themselves and make sure others get educated so that we can actually do something about it.
01:03:51.000It's great to be on and with your listeners.
01:03:52.000It's Daniel Turner and the organization is Power of the Future.
01:03:55.000We fight for rural American energy workers, especially fossil fuel workers, and fight against the climate crazies who have poisoned this country.
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