Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Newsom’s Bridge to Nowhere: Fraud Takes Over California, LIVE with Sean Davis | Triggered Ep.326

00:06:03.000 Hey guys, and welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.

00:06:06.000 It's great to be live with you in studio, and I hope you're all having an incredible Thursday.

00:06:12.000 Big show for you tonight.

00:06:14.000 Nick Shirley, the young citizen journalist who blew open that Minnesota daycare scandal, just dropped another bombshell.

00:06:24.000 This time, it's hospice fraud in California.

00:06:27.000 We're talking $170 million in fake hospice companies, empty offices, luxuries, cars parked outside that he alone was able to discover.

00:06:39.000 This is a 20-something-year-old journalist that's able to uncover this.

00:06:42.000 Imagine how much more there is.

00:06:45.000 Then we've got James O'Keefe going undercover on Skid Row in Los Angeles.

00:06:52.000 And what does he find?

00:06:54.000 Cash, marijuana, cigarettes.

00:06:57.000 I don't know, just being handed out to homeless people in exchange for signing voter registration forms and election petitions.

00:07:07.000 And then, because California clearly just can't stop being, I don't know, California, we've got Gavin Newsom's $114 million bridge to nowhere.

00:07:21.000 A bridge, literally, just goes over a highway, a bridge for cougars and butterflies.

00:07:27.000 Not entirely sure what a butterfly needs a bridge for because they can fly, but you know, anyway, I wish I was making this stuff up, but I'm not.

00:07:35.000 And later on the show, Sean Davis from the Federalist is joining us live.

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00:09:56.000 And before we get to Sean, let's get into some of the top headlines.

00:10:00.000 So if you remember very clearly, Nick Shirley, this is the independent journalist who was on the show a few weeks back, the kid from Utah who blew open the Minnesota daycare fraud scandal back in December.

00:10:12.000 He testified before Congress.

00:10:14.000 He sat in a White House roundtable.

00:10:16.000 He got a seat at the State of the Union, all in under three months.

00:10:21.000 Well, guys, he did it again.

00:10:24.000 And this time, it might even be bigger.

00:10:27.000 Shirley just dropped a 40-minute video on X exposing what he says is over $170 million in hospice and home health care fraud in Los Angeles County alone, just LA County.

00:10:41.000 And within two days, nearly 9 million people have watched it.

00:10:46.000 He found basically abandoned buildings turned into offices that are fake companies pretending to be healthcare services.

00:10:55.000 The way it works is you get a hold of a Medicare beneficiary's number, you enroll people into hospice care, you bill the government for millions, and if anyone starts sniffing around, you pack up and you disappear.

00:11:06.000 That's it.

00:11:07.000 That's the business model.

00:11:09.000 There's nothing else to it.

00:11:10.000 It's that simple.

00:11:11.000 Shirley and his crew went building to building in Los Angeles.

00:11:16.000 And what did they find?

00:11:17.000 Well, they found shuttered doors, piled up mail, dead phone lines, zero evidence of actual patients, zero evidence of anyone, you know, receiving hospice care, receiving any care.

00:11:31.000 But these outfits have billed Medicare and California's Medi-Cal program for tens of millions of dollars.

00:11:38.000 And the real number is probably much, much more.

00:11:42.000 Los Angeles County has seen a thousand percent, thousand percent surge in hospice care spending in just a few years.

00:11:50.000 LA County now accounts for 10% of all home health care expenditure in the entire United States.

00:11:58.000 The entire United States, just LA County, 10% of it.

00:12:02.000 Let that sink in.

00:12:03.000 One county, 10% of the whole country.

00:12:08.000 But don't take my word for it.

00:12:10.000 Take a look at what Nick found on the ground.

00:12:13.000 Or grandma.

00:12:14.000 Yeah, no, no, we're doing anything.

00:12:17.000 Okay.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, because we're seeing like we got Guardian of Angels, Blossom Hospice here.

00:12:23.000 I don't know who they are, but this is okay.

00:12:26.000 Well, we'll keep looking for Guardian of Angels then.

00:12:28.000 Yeah, I don't know about that.

00:12:30.000 So they say they only take it from hospitals, which could be a valid response. 0.98

00:12:33.000 Let's go see if we can find Guardian of Angels.

00:12:35.000 This place is just filled with hospice centers and home health care centers.

00:12:38.000 You have one right here, seven-star home healthcare.

00:12:41.000 And then up here, you have Miracle Healing Hospice.

00:12:45.000 So this hospice location, Miracle Healing Hospice, in 2023, they charged $1.3 million and per beneficiary was $32,000 for 38 beneficiaries per beneficiary.

00:13:01.000 That comes out to $32,935.

00:13:05.000 Let's see if grandma could check herself into this one. 1.00

00:13:07.000 I'm just trying to be a good grandson.

00:13:10.000 I mean, we're knocking the door.

00:13:11.000 No one's coming.

00:13:12.000 We look inside the window.

00:13:14.000 Empty building.

00:13:16.000 In 2023, this place received $1.3 million.

00:13:24.000 Nothing.

00:13:24.000 This is insane.

00:13:25.000 This is insane.

00:13:27.000 Okay, well, since we can't go to Miracle, let's see if we can get SX Home Health.

00:13:34.000 It says they're open Monday through Friday from 9:30 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.

00:13:39.000 It's getting really hard to find grandma the healthcare she needs these days. 0.94

00:13:42.000 It really is, isn't it?

00:13:44.000 We got SX Home Healthcare.

00:13:46.000 They're not open, so it's all right because you can go to Alpha Omega Bentana Hospice Inc.

00:13:53.000 Not only are these shell companies, these are shell buildings.

00:13:57.000 It's like somebody took a motel building and turned it into a hundred fraudulent.

00:14:03.000 Think about what you just watched, guys.

00:14:05.000 Empty offices or offices with a couple people who have no clue what they're doing.

00:14:11.000 Millions and millions of your tax dollars just gone, vanished into thin air.

00:14:16.000 And when the cameras show up, they run.

00:14:20.000 This is your money.

00:14:21.000 This is Medicare.

00:14:23.000 This is supposed to be for people who are dying, for people who need end-of-life care, for people who have actually paid into these systems.

00:14:31.000 And these criminals are using it as an ATM machine and committing fraud.

00:14:36.000 Now, you would think that, I don't know, if you're the governor of California and a journalist just exposed $170 million of fraud happening on your watch, you may want to, I don't know, maybe, just maybe, I don't know, you know, launch an investigation or something, maybe do something.

00:14:56.000 But this is Gavin Newsom we're talking about.

00:14:58.000 So what does he do?

00:15:00.000 His office puts out an AI-generated meme depicting Nick Shirley as a predator, lurking outside a daycare with cameras strapped to his body with a quote bubble that says, hey, I can see your kids.

00:15:14.000 I mean, really?

00:15:16.000 You know, I know the left can't meme, but that's kind of next level given what Nick has been able to uncover.

00:15:22.000 That was the official response from the governor's office of the state of California.

00:15:27.000 They think Nick Shirley is the problem, not the fraudsters that they seem to be enabling or that they're either perhaps on the payroll of.

00:15:35.000 And while most Democrats feel the same way, John Fetterman just put Newsom on blast.

00:15:42.000 Celebrate any journalist or any activist doing that. 0.97

00:15:46.000 And what you know, Governor Newsom put out a disgusting video implying that he's a pedophile or he's that. 0.93

00:15:56.000 Like, why? 0.92

00:15:57.000 You know, like, I mean, like, that's like kind of a smear.

00:16:00.000 You know, like, you can, you may, you want to disagree, but to imply that someone, someone in one of the most gross kinds of terms like that, well, it's like, hey, shouldn't we agree?

00:16:14.000 Like, you know, eliminate all the waste.

00:16:17.000 If it exists under my purfew, let's eliminate it.

00:16:21.000 Let's call that what it is.

00:16:22.000 You know, I'm not going to call someone or imply that you're a pedophile or you're going after kids in gross ways.

00:16:32.000 And this is the guy, Gavin Newsom, who thinks he should be president, who's polling as a frontrunner of the Democrat Party for 2028.

00:16:41.000 This is his answer to $170 million in fraud, 10% of the money spent in America, you know, in this county alone, to attack the messenger. 0.98

00:16:52.000 Pathetic. 1.00

00:16:54.000 It's absolutely pathetic. 1.00

00:16:55.000 Although it's 100% the Democrat playbook. 0.99

00:17:00.000 And staying in California, because apparently this is a state, I guess it's just like a magnet for all things corruption.

00:17:07.000 James O'Keefe just released part one of what might be his most explosive undercover investigation yet.

00:17:15.000 He and his team went undercover as homeless people on Skid Row in Los Angeles.

00:17:20.000 And what they found is a federal crime, literally caught on tape.

00:17:26.000 O'Keefe's undercover journalists documented dozens and dozens of instances of petitioners offering cash, cigarettes, and weed in exchange for signatures on election petitions and voter registration forms.

00:17:41.000 Petitioners just told the undercover journalists that they're getting paid $7 to $10 per signature, with some earning up to $1,000 a day doing this.

00:17:52.000 $1,000 a day to commit election fraud?

00:17:55.000 Check this out.

00:17:57.000 Bill pinned to this man's shirt.

00:17:59.000 This is a signal to all nearby homeless people that he is a source of the money.

00:18:03.000 Paying citizens to sign petitions is a violation of California Elections Code 18603, which states, quote, every person who offers or gives money or other valuable consideration to another in exchange for his or her signature on a state, county, municipal, or district initiative, referendum, or recall petition is guilty of a misdemeanor.

00:18:35.000 But it wasn't just cash that we saw exchanged for signatures.

00:18:39.000 We also saw the homeless being bribed with cigarettes and even drugs, marijuana, and all of that is considered valuable consideration.

00:18:48.000 And according to the petitioner that we spoke with earlier, it would be a crime just to give out water to anyone who is signing petitions.

00:18:55.000 Now, you don't give people money to sign it.

00:18:58.000 That's illegal.

00:18:59.000 That's illegal.

00:18:59.000 I can't even hand out water.

00:19:01.000 You can't even hand out water?

00:19:01.000 Really?

00:19:02.000 It's very hot in Los Angeles.

00:19:04.000 Unfortunately, it's like voter ID.

00:19:06.000 Or no, not voter ID.

00:19:07.000 It's voter fraud, they will call it.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, you're basically enticing somebody.

00:19:11.000 Hey, if you sign all these, I'll give you a free water.

00:19:13.000 Our undercover journalist continued to engage with this group in Skid Row and found the majority of homeless people who were being paid to sign, as you might expect, didn't even know what it was they were signing.

00:19:28.000 What are we doing?

00:19:29.000 $3 petitions.

00:19:32.000 What's your signature, date, address, and then after nine, they're going to give you an additional one more sign.

00:19:40.000 After that, one more, you get $3.

00:19:48.000 They were also encouraging the homeless to just make up random addresses such as Pinocchio Lane.

00:20:00.000 Oh, this woman named Brenda Brown acknowledges that if the person signing isn't a registered voter, she won't get paid $7 for the signature.

00:20:22.000 Brenda Brown also has a stack of voter registration forms so she can get the homeless people to first register to vote. 1.00

00:20:36.000 And guys, it gets worse.

00:20:39.000 These petitioners were instructing homeless people to use fake addresses.

00:20:43.000 One employee at Wingart Center told an undercover journalist, you can just put Pinocchio Elaine.

00:20:50.000 Pinocchio Lane. 0.91

00:20:51.000 I mean, seems very fitting for a liar.

00:20:54.000 Now, to be very clear about what's happening here, paying citizens to sign petition violates California Elections Code 18603.

00:21:05.000 Paying people to register to vote is a federal felony under 52 USC 10307.

00:21:12.000 This isn't a gray area.

00:21:14.000 This isn't a technicality.

00:21:16.000 This is a crime caught on camera.

00:21:19.000 And it's probably happening pretty much every day.

00:21:23.000 And these are the same groups, guys.

00:21:25.000 The same people who want to tell you that the Save America Act is a bad idea.

00:21:31.000 Why?

00:21:32.000 Because it will ruin their fraud scheme.

00:21:34.000 And that's it.

00:21:35.000 We've been saying it forever.

00:21:36.000 But if you actually had to show, like, I don't know, a birth certificate to register to vote, it's a problem.

00:21:42.000 They're not going to be able to collect these fraudulent petitions, these fraudulent registrations.

00:21:49.000 They're not going to be able to get those people to vote for Democrats in the future.

00:21:52.000 And if they then had to actually show up and actually vote and actually present an ID, rather than whatever mail-in ballot system from Pinocchio Lane that they're scheming for here, it creates a problem.

00:22:03.000 And here's what makes it even worse.

00:22:05.000 There are reports that some of these petitions are misrepresenting what people are signing.

00:22:10.000 They're telling homeless people they're signing a petition to increase the minimum wage.

00:22:14.000 So they're not just buying votes, they're lying about what's even being signed.

00:22:20.000 And this is happening in broad daylight in one of the largest cities in America.

00:22:24.000 Cash and drugs for votes. 1.00

00:22:27.000 And they've been doing this for who knows how long.

00:22:30.000 O'Keeffe says there will be a new tape dropping every day until someone is arrested or indicted.

00:22:37.000 So I'd say make sure you send this or the clip, whatever it may be, to your local congressman.

00:22:43.000 Send it to the DOJ, send it to those who can make a difference.

00:22:45.000 I'll be doing the same so that they can actually do something about it.

00:22:50.000 And by the way, you know who won't talk about it?

00:22:54.000 You guessed it, guys.

00:22:55.000 California Democrats.

00:22:58.000 Check this out.

00:23:00.000 Recent undercover reporting in Los Angeles is showing that there is cash for ballot deals being made.

00:23:07.000 I'm with the press.

00:23:08.000 I'm with the press.

00:23:09.000 Well, we're bad.

00:23:09.000 I don't think that's a press.

00:23:10.000 It's right here.

00:23:11.000 My bad is Cash for ballot measures, cash for ballot deals.

00:23:17.000 No, Gavin Newsom is now demanding prosecutions for these cash for ballot deals being made in Los Angeles.

00:23:23.000 This is your state of California where this is happening.

00:23:25.000 Why are you opposed to the safeguards in the Save America Act?

00:23:30.000 There's election fraud actively happening in the state of California, and you're opposed to the Save America Act.

00:23:34.000 Can you explain why?

00:23:36.000 Two different things.

00:23:37.000 There is election fraud happening in California.

00:23:37.000 Two different things.

00:23:40.000 Why not be a proponent of the Save America Act to protect American elections?

00:23:44.000 He made his point very clear.

00:23:46.000 He did not, and the American people so want to answer.

00:23:49.000 That's your United States Senator from California, to be clear, Alex Padilla, who was California's Secretary of the State before this.

00:23:58.000 The guy who was in charge of elections.

00:24:01.000 The guy literally in charge of elections for the state of California.

00:24:05.000 And he can't even answer a question about election fraud happening in his own state on tape.

00:24:12.000 He just runs away?

00:24:14.000 Of course.

00:24:16.000 He knows exactly what's been going on.

00:24:18.000 He's fine with it.

00:24:20.000 It benefits the Democrat machine.

00:24:22.000 Of course, he's not going to do anything about it.

00:24:25.000 Again, it's why we have to pass the Save America Act to stop this insanity from happening before Democrats destroy our country.

00:24:34.000 And just to understand everything we're talking about, this is just in one state.

00:24:39.000 This is just in one area, within a county, within a state.

00:24:44.000 That's why we're going through these stories one by one, because this is theft built on lie after lie.

00:24:52.000 And it doesn't stop there.

00:24:54.000 Because Christopher Ruffo, another friend of the show over at the City Journal, just dropped a piece that shows how so much of this waste, fraud, and abuse is standing right in plain sight.

00:25:07.000 Back in 2022, Newsom broke ground on something called the Wallace-Annenberg Wildlife Crossing, a bridge that goes over a few lanes of highway on the 101 freeway in Southern California for animals, specifically cougars and butterflies.

00:25:23.000 Again, not sure why you need a bridge for butterflies, but it's California.

00:25:28.000 I'll give them a little bit of leeway because they're insane.

00:25:32.000 But at the ceremony, Newsom said the state had committed $54 million and promised they'd complete the job with another $10 million.

00:25:43.000 So $64 million in total for a bridge for mountain lions.

00:25:48.000 Here was Newsom announcing the project a few years ago.

00:25:51.000 Again, personally, this is for me to be here and to be a small part of it, working with our remarkable colleagues in the state Senate, the Assembly, working with local officials and federal officials.

00:26:01.000 $54 million the state has put up for this program and we'll complete the job within another 10.

00:26:09.000 Well, guess what?

00:26:10.000 It's 2026.

00:26:12.000 The bridge was supposed to be done by now.

00:26:14.000 And the cost has exploded to $114 million, including $77 million in state funds, more than double its expense.

00:26:25.000 That's $21 million over budget on a bridge for cougars and butterflies.

00:26:32.000 We're showing it here on the screen.

00:26:32.000 Okay?

00:26:34.000 That's the actual bridge.

00:26:36.000 $114 million?

00:26:38.000 You have to be kidding me.

00:26:40.000 And remember, California is projecting a $2.9 billion budget deficit for this fiscal year.

00:26:46.000 But sure, let's spend the $114 million on a butterfly bridge that still isn't finished and that has no real purpose.

00:26:54.000 This is the same state where hospice fraud is running rampant, where people are being paid cash and weed to sign voter registration forms, where homelessness is out of control.

00:27:05.000 And the priority is a bridge for mountain lions to cross the freeway.

00:27:11.000 You can't make this stuff up anymore.

00:27:12.000 This is what happens when there is zero rule other than Democrat rule.

00:27:17.000 When you have one party rule, you have zero accountability.

00:27:21.000 When one party has run a state for decades with no real opposition, this is exactly what you get.

00:27:28.000 And it's why the new fraud task force, headed up by J.P. Vance, is as critical as it's ever been.

00:27:36.000 All right, guys, we've got a lot more to get into.

00:27:39.000 And joining me now is Sean Davis, co-founder and CEO of the Federalists.

00:27:45.000 Sean, great to have you back, man.

00:27:47.000 Great to be back.

00:27:48.000 Thank you for having me.

00:27:49.000 It's my pleasure.

00:27:50.000 So, you know, I don't know if you're, I think you were listening in.

00:27:52.000 I saw you there on the screen, but, you know, we just ran through all of the different examples of fraud in California.

00:27:57.000 I mean, I want to say all of, because I'm sure there's so much more, but, you know, this is what a 20-something-year-old journalist was able to uncover.

00:28:06.000 And James O'Keefe, between Nick Shirley, hospice fraud, James O'Keefe, you know, cash for ballots, you know, and another bridge to nowhere like the train to nowhere.

00:28:14.000 They're not trying to hide the fraud.

00:28:16.000 It's obvious.

00:28:17.000 It stands out like a sore thumb.

00:28:20.000 Should this be a line in the sand for us as a movement?

00:28:23.000 You know, I'm so tired of the word accountability.

00:28:26.000 This just needs indictments at this point.

00:28:30.000 Yeah, amen.

00:28:31.000 So I got my start in politics working for Tom Coburn, senator from Oklahoma, who was a very famous hater of waste, fraud, and abuse and spent all his time and energy going after that.

00:28:43.000 So I have a special hatred for seeing all this waste and this fraud.

00:28:49.000 And it should absolutely be a line in the sand for the right. 0.73

00:28:53.000 It should absolutely be a line in the sand for conservatives and for Republicans because you just can't tolerate it.

00:28:59.000 I don't see how you can possibly look at this stuff and tolerate it and say, you know, it's a good idea that the Somali fraudsters in Minneapolis are getting hundreds of millions or maybe even billions of dollars to do fake autism therapy classes. 0.93

00:29:13.000 It's ridiculous to be spending hundreds of millions on fake hospice. 0.68

00:29:17.000 What these are, these are just bogus political patronage programs for Democrats.

00:29:21.000 That's purely what they are.

00:29:22.000 They are payouts to the Democrat client parties to make them stay on the reservation so they'll keep on voting.

00:29:30.000 It has to be gone.

00:29:31.000 You have to get rid of all of it.

00:29:32.000 And I'm with you.

00:29:33.000 Like, I don't want to hear about, oh, well, you know, we got it on the record that we found the fraud.

00:29:38.000 I want people prosecuted.

00:29:40.000 I want people tried.

00:29:42.000 And I want people convicted.

00:29:43.000 Because if you allow this type of fraud to exist in the country, you don't actually have democracy.

00:29:48.000 You don't have a constitutional republic.

00:29:50.000 What you have is an oligarchy just looting the people for the benefit of its corrupt clients.

00:29:56.000 Yeah, and I would think with, you know, some, you know, reasonable actuarial practices or accounting practices, they should be able to track the amount of donations from these fake hospices and such that are just being kicked back to Democrat Party politicians to either participate or turn the other way.

00:30:12.000 But I mean, I would think there's got to be a way to figure out the quid pro quo because we both know it exists.

00:30:17.000 It's there.

00:30:18.000 I mean, we know what the awesome power of the FBI and investigators can do because we saw how the Biden FBI went and found grannies who went by the wrong velvet rope on January 6th and tracked down their purchases and tracked their phones and went into their bank accounts. 0.77

00:30:34.000 I mean, I think you were debanked for having wrong views.

00:30:38.000 So clearly there's the mechanism and the technology to do this.

00:30:41.000 What is lacking is actually the will to do it in the will to see it done to the end.

00:30:49.000 And unfortunately, actual oversight, doing this type of investigative work, not just finding the targets like Nick Shirley is doing, and he's doing an amazing job of it, but going in and seeing all the financial records, parsing through them, looking at contribution records, that's really hard work.

00:31:06.000 It's not particularly sexy and involves sitting around looking at spreadsheets and receipts and stuff like that all day.

00:31:12.000 And unfortunately, a lot of politicians, even on the right, they don't really like spending their time doing the nitty-gritty hard investigative work that's required to do things like get convictions.

00:31:23.000 And so that's one thing that I've always been pushing for: I want to make oversight great again.

00:31:28.000 I wish legislators and people who have this authority and this obligation to do that would actually dig into it and use these awesome powers and abilities that we've given them to root this stuff out.

00:31:39.000 We can't just complain about it.

00:31:40.000 We actually have to have people in office who are willing to go in and do the hard work and root it out and put these people in prison.

00:31:47.000 Yeah, without question.

00:31:48.000 And, you know, but by the way, like, Newsom wants to be president.

00:31:52.000 How do you run on this record?

00:31:53.000 I mean, are we missing something?

00:31:55.000 You know, he's one of the leaders of the Democrat Party, a frontrunner for 2028.

00:32:00.000 I mean, this is going on under his nose.

00:32:02.000 It's probably been going on for years.

00:32:04.000 You know, just man, imagine that guy's running the country.

00:32:09.000 Are we missing something here?

00:32:10.000 Like, I don't even understand it.

00:32:12.000 Yeah, I think we're missing how the Democrat brain works. 1.00

00:32:15.000 I mean, remember, they nominated Kamala Harris to run for president.

00:32:19.000 This is a woman who, yes.

00:32:22.000 Yeah, so I remember when she was AG, there was this great investigator named David DeLeiden who went and did incredible undercover work to expose the illegal trade in aborted baby body parts.

00:32:35.000 He had people on camera admitting to it.

00:32:37.000 And instead of taking action against that, Kamala Harris went and indicted him and tried to put him in prison. 0.97

00:32:43.000 So it's almost like there's this weird thing in Democrat politics, especially if you're from California, that it doesn't matter how incompetent you are or how corrupt you are, as long as you're giving money to Democrat clients and as long as you're trying to put your Republican opponents in prison, by the way, for doing First Amendment journalism work, that's all it takes.

00:33:04.000 They don't care if you've committed total crimes against nature and humanity in ruining one of the most beautiful and lush and rich states in the country, one of the most beautiful places on earth.

00:33:16.000 Imagine being given California with all its advantages and resources and its beauty and its weather and doing to it what Democrats have done.

00:33:25.000 But apparently Democrat voters look at that and they say, yeah, yeah, we actually look at the ruination of one of the greatest states ever as a perfect qualification for running the country.

00:33:35.000 Yeah, what could possibly go wrong?

00:33:35.000 It's a big problem.

00:33:38.000 It's nuts.

00:33:40.000 Now, the O'Keeffe investigation is particularly explosive because this is a federal crime caught on tape.

00:33:47.000 Cash and drugs and cigarettes for voter registrations.

00:33:51.000 I mean, the DOJ says they'll aggressively pursue it.

00:33:54.000 In your opinion, do we need structural changes to how we go after fraud or do we just need to get more aggressive in actually pursuing it?

00:34:03.000 Yeah, I think we need to do both.

00:34:05.000 And I think James O'Keefe did a really, really good job of rooting out what I would call kind of the low IQ voter fraud.

00:34:13.000 It doesn't scale particularly well.

00:34:16.000 They're going to particular homeless individuals and crazy people and getting them to do things for them.

00:34:23.000 That's a hard thing to scale.

00:34:25.000 But I mean, good for him for catching these people.

00:34:27.000 Everyone involved in that needs to be in prison.

00:34:29.000 So we should definitely be going after that.

00:34:32.000 The voter fraud that I worry more about is the kind that we, I think, saw beginning to take shape in 2020 and the kind that can only come about from mass, almost universal mail-in balloting, where you actually have no ability to determine whether somebody turning in the ballot is the one who actually casts the ballot.

00:34:53.000 You have millions, tens of millions, over 100 million ballots going out.

00:34:58.000 Who knows where?

00:34:59.000 They may be going to P.O. boxes that are getting 100 voter ballots each.

00:35:04.000 They may be going to like UPS stores.

00:35:07.000 They may be going to office buildings.

00:35:09.000 And you have no idea if the actual individual voter wanted that to happen, if they even know it's happening.

00:35:15.000 And I think that's the means by which we see elections rigged on a large scale.

00:35:20.000 And I think that's what requires more structural reforms.

00:35:23.000 I think the further you get from somebody casting a ballot and immediately being counted, the greater the possibility you have for fraud in election rigging.

00:35:35.000 Once you're adding multiple links to the chain with different custody of ballots and all that, the more you have that, the harder it is to have ballot integrity, the harder it is to have election integrity, and the easier it is to have fraud in rigged elections.

00:35:49.000 And so I think we need to crack down on the fraud, but we also do need structural changes that make it harder for people who actually aren't casting legal ballots to do so.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, I mean, so, you know, you've been running the Federalists now for over a decade.

00:36:01.000 The landscape, certainly in media, has changed dramatically.

00:36:04.000 Nick Shirley is getting, you know, 100, 138 million views on X. O'Keefe is getting DOJ responses within hours of dropping a video.

00:36:14.000 You know, meanwhile, legacy media is just hemorrhaging viewers.

00:36:18.000 Is this the way forward, you know, to ultimately get results?

00:36:22.000 I don't know if it's the exact way forward.

00:36:24.000 It's definitely a great step forward.

00:36:26.000 And people like Nick Shirley, I wish we could clone him 10 million times and do this type of independent journalism everywhere.

00:36:34.000 I think where journalism, especially on the right, works best is when you can have organizations like mine, the Federalists, you can have other groups who have lots and lots of trained seasoned reporters be able to work with people like Nick Shirley to take the ball that he's gotten and then run that down the field.

00:36:53.000 It's a really difficult thing.

00:36:55.000 And I think we're actually in this weird spot in media now where we're kind of stuck between these two new paradigms, where we have lots of independent journalism, but we also still have a lot of the legacy infrastructure.

00:37:08.000 And then we're still dealing with a totally corrupt big tech.

00:37:11.000 You know, the kind of the golden age, I think, of journalism on the internet was right when the internet was getting started, 2000s, maybe 2010.

00:37:19.000 You could find anything.

00:37:21.000 Google was amazing.

00:37:22.000 No one was being censored.

00:37:24.000 And then they realized after Hillary lost in 2016, because she was a terrible candidate, oh crap, we got a problem here because if people have free access to information, they might make decisions that we, their left-wing tech overlords, don't really want them to make.

00:37:38.000 So we're going to start doing the censorship.

00:37:40.000 So I think the story for the last 10 years is this war between big tech and its own users happening in parallel with this war between corrupt legacy media and everyone really on our side that they don't like.

00:37:54.000 And so I actually think the best thing going forward, it's not just having great independent journalists like Nick Shirley.

00:38:00.000 It's in having control of your own platforms like Rumble, for example.

00:38:05.000 You know, without Elon going and buying going and buying Twitter, making it X, I think we would have been cooked.

00:38:12.000 There would have just been a total information monopoly by the left.

00:38:16.000 So I think you have to have great independent journalists, but you also need to have control of your own distribution platforms.

00:38:22.000 Because if we continue to allow a Facebook or an Apple or a Google to control 80 or 90% of distribution, we're never actually going to have a free and independent media that can hold people accountable.

00:38:34.000 Well, and I think to your point, yes, it has always started with tech in terms of the big censorship complex.

00:38:42.000 I see perhaps even worse than Google now would be what's going on in AI.

00:38:47.000 You saw the stuff a couple of weeks ago with Anthropic saying, hey, well, we're going to be the AI for the, we want to be the AI for the Department of Defense, but like, you know, we, the rulers of Anthropic, actually get to decide what's the appropriate response.

00:39:00.000 You know, if they're sending missiles at us and, you know, maybe the enemy could be harmed more than the disparate cause of a weapon hitting the United States.

00:39:09.000 We get to overrule that.

00:39:10.000 And they're like, wait, wait, what?

00:39:12.000 Like, you don't get to make decisions for the DOD.

00:39:14.000 Like, you don't get to overrule or program these systems to be able to make those decisions in, let's call it with a woke mindset than what the Department of Defense would want to do.

00:39:24.000 And so that tech threat didn't just sort of get mitigated a little bit by Elon.

00:39:29.000 It's gotten worse now with the advent of AI.

00:39:32.000 I think, you know, Grok has done a great job of that, but I'm worried that whether it's Gemini, Google's platform in AI, obviously you saw the fallout with Anthropic.

00:39:41.000 I mean, they actually want to control and be the decision makers of all of these things going forward.

00:39:46.000 So we can't just win the tech battle as it relates to information.

00:39:49.000 If we lose to woke AI, that's probably even worse because on Google, you can see the search of, you search a subject and only CNN pops up.

00:39:59.000 You probably realize you're getting biased information.

00:40:01.000 I would think with AI, you could be fed information that just slowly changes the way you think.

00:40:07.000 And it does so very, you know, very subtly and very over time to literally change someone's entire mindset by the information that they're giving them.

00:40:18.000 Yeah, and it gets especially scary when you see what's happening with all the different agents and being able to have agents do things on your behalf.

00:40:26.000 So let's take X, for example.

00:40:27.000 They have this community notes feature, which is kind of cool, community-driven that allows people to do fact-checking and vote on it and whatnot.

00:40:34.000 Well, what happens in the midst of the propaganda wars that are constantly happening when it comes to foreign policy, where suddenly you can deploy your own AI bots to go and game community notes thing?

00:40:48.000 You can claim you're just fact-checking.

00:40:49.000 You're not censoring.

00:40:51.000 And then suddenly, even the stuff that's supposed to be fairly democratic, suddenly that can be gamed.

00:40:56.000 So, I mean, I find the AI future, I'm not a technologist.

00:41:00.000 I find the AI future to be fairly terrifying in terms of what they're going to be able to do to us with surveillance, with kind of this brainwashing that you see through subtle changing of facts.

00:41:13.000 It's a brave new world out there.

00:41:15.000 And I just, I don't know how we're going to handle it.

00:41:17.000 And I think the only way we can is by doing total decentralization.

00:41:22.000 So you don't have these one or two or three evil tech oligarchs suddenly being the sole deciders of what you're told and what information you get access to.

00:41:30.000 Yeah, I think without question, I mean, you and I seem to get it, but Washington Republicans, well, you know, that seems to be a very different story.

00:41:38.000 As I've said, my father is making decisions for the long term, not just for the next election cycle.

00:41:43.000 So, you know, what is the right call to action right now for voters?

00:41:49.000 What is the right pressure point for Republicans, especially in the Senate who seem to be so inactive on things that are wildly popular with the American public, like the Save America Act or whatever it may be?

00:42:00.000 What do you think needs to be done right now?

00:42:03.000 Yeah, one of the best lessons I learned about power and politics, I learned from Dick Armey, I think almost 20 years ago, former majority leader for Republicans in the House.

00:42:11.000 And he made this observation that Washington ends up being controlled by a group he calls the bedwetters.

00:42:18.000 You've got the Republicans, they're going to do what they want.

00:42:20.000 You've kind of got the base of Democrats are going to do what they want.

00:42:23.000 But the balance of power is always this squishy 10 or 20% of House members or senators.

00:42:28.000 And they're controlled entirely by their fear because they're constantly going to be wetting the bed.

00:42:34.000 And the insight he had was they're going to be afraid of someone.

00:42:37.000 They might as well be afraid of your side.

00:42:38.000 So you should control their fear.

00:42:40.000 You should make sure that you're the one they're worried about ending their political career and making sure they lose their next election.

00:42:47.000 And so I think that constant pressure, especially on stuff like the Save America Act, these guys have to constantly be terrified that they're about to lose their next election.

00:42:58.000 And a great example of this, I think, is John Cornyn.

00:43:00.000 This guy who is doing nothing for MAGA, nothing for American First for years and years and years.

00:43:05.000 Suddenly, he's in a really, really tough reelection in Texas.

00:43:09.000 And now, magically overnight, he's the best friend of base conservative voters.

00:43:13.000 And suddenly, he wants to do election integrity.

00:43:16.000 They turn into a creature that I call the leapier conservative.

00:43:19.000 You know, every four or six years in the case of senators, they magically discover that they're conservative again.

00:43:26.000 And it's because they have an election coming up.

00:43:28.000 So I think the best thing that the voters on the right can do right now is make these people understand you will never have this job in Washington that you covet again if you don't do exactly what we tell you to do.

00:43:39.000 And when we tell you to do it, and I think the main topic right now is the Save America Act.

00:43:45.000 I don't care what excuses they have, how hard it is, how much they're going to have to work.

00:43:50.000 They might have to work, I don't know, a couple of five-day work weeks in a row.

00:43:55.000 Do what it takes to get the Save America Act passed because we're not going to have a republic for much longer if we don't have secure, safe elections with integrity.

00:44:03.000 So I think that's what we need to focus on is getting the Save America Act passed.

00:44:08.000 Yeah.

00:44:08.000 And again, the same folks all in on the fraud are the most outspoken against the Save America Act.

00:44:15.000 I mean, it's sort of wild, but it tells you everything you need to know.

00:44:18.000 And yet, we still have to battle in the Senate to get it done.

00:44:23.000 It's just mind-blowing to me.

00:44:26.000 You know, an issue that's 84% popular across the board, everyone in America, not just conservatives, this is truly 80-plus% issue.

00:44:34.000 You'd think that'd be a no-brainer, and it's not.

00:44:38.000 Yeah, it's the constant battle we have on the right that's so frustrating.

00:44:42.000 You know, we could complain for, I think, weeks on end about it.

00:44:45.000 The Democrats, they have 51% of the power and they get 100% of their agenda through.

00:44:51.000 We end up with control of the Supreme Court and the Congress and the White House.

00:44:55.000 And for some reason, there's always a couple Republicans in the Senate who make sure that we don't even get 51% of our agenda.

00:45:02.000 But the solution here is in primaries, make sure that the person you're voting for in primaries is the person who's going to do what they said they were going to do when they ran for election.

00:45:12.000 That's the most important thing.

00:45:14.000 And I think Republicans have probably taken for granted a little too much how important their own primary is.

00:45:20.000 It's not enough just to beat the Democrats, although you have to do that.

00:45:23.000 You have to make sure that the person you have going to battle against the Democrats is battle-tested, is trustworthy, and isn't going to run for the Hills or play possum or stick their head in the sand whenever the time to fight comes.

00:45:36.000 We actually need fighters in the Senate and in the House and in the Supreme Court.

00:45:41.000 So when the battle comes, we know that the outcome is assured instead of constantly hoping that, oh, maybe they'll actually do the right thing this time.

00:45:48.000 I guess on that topic, what's your view of the talking filibuster?

00:45:53.000 If Democrats want to block the Save America Act, shouldn't we make them stand up there all day and night explaining to the American people why requiring citizenship to vote is a bad idea?

00:46:06.000 I mean, I think that would be very useful to anyone running against them in a general election on an 84% issue.

00:46:13.000 Why won't Republicans even do that?

00:46:16.000 Yeah, I think the talking filibuster is fantastic because it actually switches the burden of maintaining the floor and maintaining opposition.

00:46:24.000 The recent practice, and I'd say probably over the last, definitely the 10 or years or so, is that once Democrats say, hey, we're going to filibuster this, Republicans kind of just throw up their hands and say, well, guys, I guess we don't have 60.

00:46:38.000 We should just move on to the next thing.

00:46:40.000 And Democrats never have to work for it.

00:46:42.000 They never have to make a sacrifice for it.

00:46:43.000 They just get to say, hey, we oppose it and move on.

00:46:46.000 And what the talking filibuster does is it switches that work calculus.

00:46:51.000 So now instead of just granting them what I call the zombie filibuster, where they don't have to do anything, they don't even have to show up.

00:46:57.000 They could just effectively not vote by not showing up for work.

00:47:00.000 I mean, it's a pretty big deal.

00:47:03.000 Yeah.

00:47:04.000 So instead of putting the burden on us to hit 60, we should put the burden on them to maintain the floor 24-7 for days or weeks or months.

00:47:12.000 If something is as important as whether you can trust your election, I don't really care how long it takes, whether it takes a month or a week or three months.

00:47:22.000 And I've looked at their workload this year.

00:47:24.000 I think they're voting on average once a day.

00:47:27.000 Maybe.

00:47:28.000 They've passed a handful of bills.

00:47:30.000 They generally work three, maybe four days a week.

00:47:33.000 You guys are in the greatest deliberative body in the world in history.

00:47:38.000 You have an incredibly important job.

00:47:40.000 You've been given terms of six years.

00:47:42.000 Go and do your job.

00:47:44.000 Deliberate.

00:47:45.000 Make them debate.

00:47:46.000 Make the Democrats vote it down and make them exhaust all their options so that when they're out of their speeches and when they're out of their amendments, you can just vote on the bill.

00:47:55.000 So I wish the Senate would do that.

00:47:57.000 Unfortunately, and you've probably noticed this in some of your time in Washington.

00:48:02.000 A lot of these guys really don't like working hard.

00:48:05.000 They love the trappings of office and they loved being called the honorable so-and-so.

00:48:09.000 They love getting to avoid TSA when they go to the airport and getting walked through.

00:48:14.000 What they don't love is that really, really difficult work of the long days and the long hours and the poring through spreadsheets and research reports.

00:48:21.000 A lot of them don't like that.

00:48:23.000 And my message to them is tough.

00:48:25.000 You are elected to do the job and we expect you to do the job.

00:48:27.000 So go and do the job.

00:48:29.000 No more excuses.

00:48:30.000 Pass the Save America Act.

00:48:32.000 Get it done.

00:48:33.000 Yeah, I mean, I think more than anything, the American people just want clarity on what's happening and why it's happening.

00:48:40.000 You know, for example, right now, TSA agents aren't getting paid because Democrats want to punish TSA agents for no other reason other than, I guess, the left is totally consumed with TDS, Trump derangement syndrome.

00:48:52.000 But do we need to communicate that better?

00:48:55.000 I see on the mainstream media, well, it's to defund ICE and that's why we're standing up for it.

00:48:59.000 But that's not true because ICE has been funded.

00:49:01.000 It has nothing to do with the rest of TSA.

00:49:04.000 So it's the Democrats' way of inflicting pain on the public.

00:49:08.000 But again, the mainstream media is going to run around and say, oh, it's because of Republicans doing this.

00:49:11.000 It's like, no, that's actually been done.

00:49:12.000 It's taken care of.

00:49:13.000 It has nothing to do with it whatsoever.

00:49:15.000 But they don't know that.

00:49:17.000 I mean, how do we communicate that better?

00:49:19.000 Because I don't think the question is, should we communicate it better?

00:49:21.000 I mean, I think that's pretty clear.

00:49:23.000 How do we communicate that better?

00:49:25.000 Yeah, repetition is the key to persuasion.

00:49:28.000 And I'll talk with our staff a lot.

00:49:30.000 We'll go on television.

00:49:31.000 We'll do radio hits.

00:49:32.000 And one thing I'll hear sometimes is, oh, well, I already said that thing.

00:49:36.000 I need to come up with something new.

00:49:37.000 And I tell them, no, no, no, say the same thing over and over and over again.

00:49:42.000 You have to repeat the same message.

00:49:44.000 You have to assume that before it sinks in, someone has to hear the same thing probably 20 or 30 times.

00:49:49.000 It's so easy to tune out things that are happening in politics that you can't just go and say, oh, well, I wrote this one article or I had this great tweet or I had this one great media appearance.

00:50:00.000 You need like 50 of those each.

00:50:02.000 So I think persistence is probably more important than having the exact perfect message yourself.

00:50:10.000 Because look at the lines at the airport.

00:50:12.000 That's a pretty great message.

00:50:14.000 You know, you get some person losing a flight, not being able to go see a loved one because a flight got canceled because they couldn't get through security.

00:50:22.000 That's its own message.

00:50:23.000 And so we just need to make clear, look, this is Democrats mad that they lost the election, mad that the border secure is secured now.

00:50:30.000 And they're trying to do a backdoor renegotiation of our border laws.

00:50:34.000 And they're trying to use people's travel plans and people's livelihoods as leverage.

00:50:39.000 And it's just wrong.

00:50:40.000 And they should probably stop doing it.

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:43.000 You know, when you talk to voters, you know, some days they'll say, you know, it feels like they're winning on every front.

00:50:48.000 And other days, you know, probably not so much.

00:50:52.000 Again, beyond a lot of the noise, you know, what are the key signals and indicators you're paying attention to right now?

00:50:59.000 Yeah, so I look at polls, not in this micro sense where I'm parsing all the crosstabs.

00:51:07.000 You can get a general sense of kind of like the trend of things by looking at polls.

00:51:13.000 I try to gauge the vibes.

00:51:15.000 You know, people may laugh at that.

00:51:16.000 Like, how do you do that?

00:51:18.000 Like, I don't know.

00:51:19.000 I've been doing this for 20 years.

00:51:21.000 You generally get a sense of kind of where the mood of people is, which is different than just looking at a poll.

00:51:28.000 You know, the vibes in 2024 for Republicans were incredible.

00:51:32.000 They had all the energy.

00:51:33.000 They were having all the fun.

00:51:35.000 I didn't need to look at a single poll to know how that election was going to go.

00:51:39.000 And then I think the third thing I look at is: you know, if you think of polls as being from the bottom up and the vibes being kind of what's happening in the middle, the top-down kind of version is what's happening in the country right now.

00:51:51.000 Is the economy good?

00:51:53.000 What's the market look like?

00:51:54.000 What are prices?

00:51:55.000 Are we at war?

00:51:56.000 What does that look like?

00:51:57.000 So, those are the kind of three big things.

00:52:00.000 The polls, the vibes, and kind of the overall macro trends in the country are what I look at.

00:52:05.000 All right.

00:52:06.000 Well, Sean, I really appreciate it.

00:52:08.000 Thanks for everything that you're doing.

00:52:09.000 Everyone, go out there and check out the Federalist.

00:52:13.000 Sean, I'm sure we'll be talking again in the not too distant future because I'm sure there'll be more fraud out of California discovered.

00:52:19.000 I'm really psyched that now we're going to have a fraud czar JD Vance out there looking at all of this because I think the American people deserve to know what's actually happening with their taxpayer dollars.

00:52:28.000 So, really appreciate what you as always.

00:52:31.000 Again, guys, go check out the Federalist.

00:52:33.000 Sean, I'll talk to you soon.

00:52:35.000 Thank you, sir.

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