Ned Ryan is the CEO of American Majority, a group that actually trains conservative leaders and candidates. He also has a new book out called American Leviathan, which details how the left is replacing our constitutional republic with a totally corrupt administrative state. We ll also have conservative filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza join us to discuss his new movie, Vindicating Trump, which tells the story of the left's lawfare like no one else can. Don t miss this episode of Triggered! Subscribe today using our podcast s promo code TRiggered to receive $5 and contribute $5 to one of our sponsors, Tax Network USA. To find a list of our sponsor links and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/OurAdvertisers. Don t forget to rate, review and subscribe to our new show on Apple Podcasts and other major podcasting platforms wherever you get your news and information. You can also go to my news app, MXM News, where you can get the mainstream news without the mainstream bias. You ll get access to all the latest breaking news and analysis from the left-wing media, including the New York Times, CNN, NPR, USA Today, CBS, NPR and the Washington Post, and much more. And don t miss it! Subscribe to my new show, TRIGgered. wherever you re listening to the show. It s going to be the most impactful episodes of the major news you can find it. on your favorite streaming platform. Subscribe, rate and review the show, and share it on your social media platforms, and help spread the word out there about what s going on the most important things happening in the world. I hope you re getting the most influential and the most powerful things going on in your world right now! Tweet me and I ll be sure to subscribe to my feed! Timestamps: 4:00 - What s going up! 5:30 - What are you listening to me? 6:15 - What do you think of this episode? 7:40 - What does it mean to you think about it? 8:00 9: What s your favorite thing I m listening to you? 11:00 | What s my favorite part? 12:30 | How do I think it s a good thing? 13:30 15:00 & 13:40
00:07:42.000We have to work smarter to make sure we actually break through all of the noise that we can grow this movement so we can fight back, so we can take care of our country.
00:07:52.000Remember, you can also go to Spotify and Apple Podcasts if you miss the show here on Rumble.
00:07:57.000So for all of the top headlines we'll spotlight here on the show,
00:08:01.000also go over, check out my news app, MXM News, like MXM, minute by minute, MXM,
00:08:07.000where you can get the mainstream news without the mainstream bias.
00:08:11.000But before we get to all of these guys, don't forget about some of our incredible sponsors,
00:08:17.000the people who have the guts to go against the regime, to go against the cancel culture
00:08:22.000that they most certainly face elsewhere, maybe not on Rumble,
00:08:26.000but in general for supporting programming like this.
00:09:35.000Everybody thinks Leviathan, thinks the Old Testament creature, sea monster.
00:09:38.000Well, the second definition is a political state tending to be a totalitarian one with a vast bureaucracy.
00:09:45.000And I feel like we have gotten to this point with our administrative state, the American Leviathan, that it has become to the point where I'm not really sure representative democracy is truly accepted by many people in Washington, D.C.
00:09:59.000I think they left it behind a long time ago.
00:10:05.000I mean, we're saving democracy by bastardizing democracy.
00:10:09.000We're saving democracy by not allowing you to vote for the person you want to vote for, or we'll save democracy by installing a puppet candidate who hasn't actually won any votes because she can't win under the regular rules of our democracy.
00:10:41.000I said, you know, sir, What this all comes down to is you showed up in January of 2017, and as the duly elected President of the United States, and essentially declared, I'm the one who decides.
00:10:52.000I'm the one who got elected by the American people, I decide a lot of the domestic and foreign policy, and the administrative state, and the Democrats, quite frankly a lot of establishment Republicans, all bolstered by the corporate propaganda said, no, we don't think you decide, we think we decide.
00:11:07.000And for having the temerity to say, I reject the premise that the unelected bureaucrats are the ones who set policy, that as the duly elected representative of the American people, I decide you were treated as a traitor to your country.
00:11:19.000And I think that's the real problem, Don.
00:11:21.000What we're seeing now, and I tell people all the time, Russiagate, Ukrainian quid pro quo, lawfare, all of these things that are taking place between your dad and them over the last 10 years, really boils down to two things.
00:11:47.000I mean, you know, when I used to have that conversation with him, and I think when it was starting, I'm like, he's like, no, I told these guys to do X, Y, Z, and man, they're just slow.
00:11:55.000And at first he was like, he's just maybe, hey, they're government bureaucrats.
00:12:00.000Most of them, honestly, most of the people in government, not that smart.
00:12:03.000They're just good at being bureaucrats.
00:12:11.000You don't actually have to be that talented.
00:12:13.000You just have to have a sort of level of viciousness.
00:12:16.000Uh, and so, you know, I think at first we were like, maybe they're just slow.
00:12:20.000Like, we're used to the real world where like, you know, if I work for him and he tells me to do something, if it's not done in 10 minutes or however long, you know, faster than it's supposed to take to get the task done, if it's not done, he's calling me like, what's going on?
00:12:32.000I think in Washington for a while, it was just like, well, maybe they're just slower.
00:12:37.000And then, you know, there's, you know, it's not, they intentionally slow played it or they, Forgot to handle it, you know, and, you know, hopefully we just run out the clock.
00:12:46.000And I think that's what scares them about a second term.
00:12:49.000Yeah, no, that's one of their favorite tactics, but this is the whole point.
00:12:53.000And the reason, one of the reasons I wanted to write the book, not only to show people really what took place over the last 10 years, it's really kind of this clash of governing philosophies that's been building for a while.
00:13:03.000But Don, that was the whole point from day one with this administrative state.
00:13:06.000Because progressives, first of all, progressives hate the Constitution.
00:13:12.000They hate the republic that came out of it, especially the diffusion of power, the separation of powers.
00:13:17.000But more importantly, what they put in place, in place of the constitutional republic, an administrative state, They were only interested in one separation, and that was separating out the administrative state with its unelected bureaucrats from any political accountability, so much to the point that they wanted those unelected bureaucrats to be the decision makers, to be the ones governing.
00:13:37.000That was the point the whole time with them.
00:14:36.000The real problem I have with all of it, and again, as someone who I mean, in any reasonable terms, was the number two target of Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:15:03.000But with him, it was just it's amazing how so many accepted.
00:15:08.000So I always say This was actually long gone.
00:15:12.000What we believed America to be was long gone way before my father.
00:15:16.000It was just the visceral reaction to him not just accepting that the president himself in the United States, the duly elected president, is just a puppet within a far greater unelected bureaucracy.
00:16:18.000Like, hey, we'd like to have a republic restored.
00:16:20.000We'd like to have a representative democracy restored.
00:16:24.000We'd like to have all the rights of the American people restored.
00:16:27.000And he believes, and again, call me crazy because of our founding principle, That in a government of, by and for the people, the people give to their duly elected representatives, they make them the stewards of the power and money given to them by the American people, to create a government that every day, Don, is supposed to be advancing and protecting the interests of the American people, and that the American people, another shocking thing that your dad has proposed,
00:16:51.000That the American people should be first and last in all things.
00:16:54.000Trade, immigration, all of these things.
00:16:57.000And permanent DC, the administrative state, said, huh?
00:17:05.000And your dad is trying to communicate to the American people, I actually believe that this is supposed to be a government of, by, and for the people.
00:17:12.000And we lost that vision decades and decades ago.
00:17:17.000So, Ned, what's the deal with the devil that the media in Washington, D.C.
00:17:23.000and in general are so complicit in these scandals?
00:17:26.000Meaning, if you were an enterprising journalist and you just exposed some of these things, if you just went after it, Man, that's the stuff that Pulitzers are made of.
00:17:35.000Instead, they get Pulitzers for literally lying about Russia, Russia, Russia.
00:17:46.000I mean, I guess they're writing fiction, so, you know, it's a problem.
00:17:50.000But, you know, from the soft coverage of Kamala Harris, from blaming my father for his own assassination, you know, Some of these things are stretches, but how does all of that relate to the themes in American Leviathan?
00:18:04.000Because I think, you know, the two feed off of each other, and yet, again, as a guy that just understands, like, you know, opportunities in markets, as a business guy, I'm like, you'd think there'd be a great opportunity taking some of that on and being, like, the only person in thousands catering to people who actually want to know what's going on in their country.
00:18:23.000Not interested in that because, well, first of all, this feels like a new thing that has happened with the corporate propagandists.
00:18:31.000I write in the book on, I'm starting to really think that Watergate and Russiakate are two sides of the same coin.
00:18:38.000In which Nixon ran on his re-election campaign was about, we're going to break apart the administrative state, resounding electoral college victory, and then the next thing you know, a deep state surveillance state official is meeting with two corporate propagandists in a parking garage to spin a narrative to bring down the duly elected president of the United States who they feel is an existential threat to their way of life.
00:19:01.000Fast forward to Russiagate, same thing.
00:19:04.000Why are they not being honest with the American people?
00:19:08.000Because that's the point of a free press.
00:19:10.000Obviously, First Amendment, a free press, supposed to be honest to provide transparency to the American people for them to make better decisions.
00:20:04.000know. So I think part of it's just they're on the same page with everybody and they view themselves
00:20:09.000as a protection against anybody that might be seen as a threat. I view the DOJ and the FBI that way,
00:20:16.000just to be clear. I view them as a perpetratory guard of the administrative state.
00:20:20.000I stopped giving them a pass a long time ago when they started electing Amish farmers,
00:20:23.000arresting Amish farmers for selling unpasteurized milk. But literally every person that's either
00:20:28.000tried to shoot up my father or shot up a crowd or whatever it is, you know, has been on their radar.
00:20:32.000But, you know, they check a couple of woke boxes so we can't actually do something about it.
00:20:36.000I mean, uh, you know, I always, you know, sort of, I used to give this sort of the pass to the door kickers because I feel like so many of them are sort of left behind.
00:20:44.000But like, there comes a point where I'm like, the door kickers, like, Hey guys, when you watch this stuff being so bastardized, when you're weaponized against your, like, somebody, like, I get it.
00:20:52.000It's your job, it's your pension, like, eventually someone has to come up and speak out.
00:21:38.000Like, he was the most popular, had some of the most incredible victories,
00:21:43.000took on so many of the things that I think my father's trying to take on right now, and yet.
00:21:47.000You know, in the lens of, like, I was not really born, you know, I was barely alive or cognizant, even what I know, even if someone who's sort of, let's call it, been really red-pilled, it was like, I didn't know until, like, I went to the Nixon Library, because I had a book event, I went there, I was like, he did that?
00:22:02.000Like, wait a minute, I thought that was this guy!
00:22:12.000It is, and in researching this book and writing this book, I have come to the conclusion, Don, we should probably re-examine a lot of our 20th century U.S.
00:22:21.000government history, political history, on a whole host of fronts, because the progressive propagandists through the last century have really manipulated, I think,
00:22:31.000a lot of things in regards to the education system.
00:22:33.000Obviously, the corporate propagandists in presenting a narrative to the American people
00:22:37.000might not actually have anything to do with the truth.
00:22:47.000So that's why they wanted the diffusion and separation of powers.
00:22:50.000What happens when progressives put their administrative state in place is you have unelected, consolidated power with unaccountable bureaucrats doing the governing at a certain point.
00:23:02.000Because we do often what we can, not what we should as human beings.
00:23:09.000And if you don't, there'll be consequences.
00:23:11.000And this is the problem that I have right now, among many, with the administrative state of, if you're unelected, there's no accountability.
00:23:25.000I think the greatest existential threat To our freedom in the immediate, it's not Russia, it's not China, it is an out-of-control administrative state, the American Leviathan, that has decided, we are making the decisions, we know what's best for you, because the state is salvation.
00:23:42.000One more thing I want to make on this point.
00:23:45.000In progressives' thinking, they thought the administrative state was going to be salvation for all of society and for mankind.
00:23:50.000If the state is salvation, The state should be in every aspect of your life.
00:23:54.000So people go, why is government continue to grow?
00:24:11.000It's built into their DNA, the administrative state of its salvation.
00:24:15.000Growth is perpetual, because why would you ever want to limit salvation?
00:24:17.000And at the same time, they truly did believe, and it's a warped worldview, they would lead to the perfection of mankind, that we'd somehow reach some state of deification in the here and now.
00:24:28.000You read the writings of these progressives, you think they're deluded madmen, but here we are.
00:24:32.000And I would argue, and I think I've seen enough empirical evidence over the last decade, That we're actually living out the dream of the progressives with their administrative state, with the unelected bureaucrats thinking they're deciding, and not a truly representative democracy in a constitutional republic.
00:24:46.000And one of the reasons I wanted to write this book, too, because the publisher said, hey, we're going to do a hardback in January of 25.
00:24:55.000Because I think one of the key issues in the 2024 elections, Don, is what are we actually going to do with this administrative state if and when, hopefully praying when, your dad takes office again January of 2025 as the head of the executive branch where most of the administrative state resides.
00:25:13.000He begins a plan to dismantle and devolve the administrative state and return power back to the people.
00:25:18.000Well, I mean, so, it's all part of that, right?
00:25:22.000The media, they rush to sort of memory hole all the attacks against conservatives.
00:25:26.000I have a feeling if someone tried killing Biden, or if they tried killing even Barack Obama, who's no longer a president, it wouldn't be out of the news in three days.
00:25:34.000I mean, so many Americans forget that Steve Scalise was shot by a radical leftist Bernie Sanders supporter.
00:25:42.000And again, both by deranged left-wing lunatics.
00:25:45.000The media doesn't want to talk about that violence coming from the left wing, just like they don't want to talk about violence coming from people of the trans community.
00:25:53.000And you see the shootings, you see the mass killings, and I'm like, again, as a population that makes up like 0.02% of the world, I'm like, I don't know, I'd say it's the most radical, most violent per capita movement out there.
00:26:07.000Are they just complicit with all of these things?
00:26:11.000Again, it goes back to holding on to power, similar worldviews, anything they view as a threat, we will attack.
00:26:18.000No, and again, the First Amendment, free and honest press to provide transparency for the American people to make better decisions in regards to who's doing the right things and governing us, everything has been so warped and twisted over the last hundred years that it's hard to see that our founders would envision This as the press that they were thinking about back in 1787 as they're putting together a constitutional republic.
00:26:42.000So, you know, in the last chapter, I deal with reform items that a powerful executive with the political courage, like your dad, as head of the executive branch can put into place.
00:26:50.000And I also talk about the press and some of the things that I think need to be done to reform what is going on currently with our corporate propaganda is because none of this, in my mind, is working like the founders thought it should.
00:27:04.000Yeah, and again, that's one of those tough subjects, right?
00:27:07.000Because I mean, I'm sort of a free speech absolutist.
00:27:09.000It doesn't mean there's not consequences to those free speech.
00:27:12.000If you're functioning as a journalist, but you're effectively lying and putting your weight on the scale, is that really free speech?
00:27:22.000Or do you have to just disclose that you're doing these things?
00:27:26.000The DNC, I remember during the DNC, they're paying all these kids on TikTok to say that they're for Kamala Harris.
00:27:31.000They probably couldn't pick Kamala Harris out of a lineup.
00:27:35.000I'm saying, well, they're paying them, but they don't have to disclose that.
00:27:37.000But if I do a paid ad campaign for a corporation and I just don't disclose that I'm getting paid, they fine Kim Kardashian millions of dollars for doing that.
00:27:48.000And yet, hey, if it's for our political benefit, we're going to just let these rules slide.
00:27:54.000I think one of the great lies that has been told to the American people that somehow the media are purely objective, we're just trying to communicate the truth to the American people.
00:28:04.000It used to be back in the day that newspapers would be known as a Republican newspaper or a Democrat newspaper.
00:28:10.000There was no question what a newspaper was and what they were trying to communicate.
00:28:14.000It'd be really nice in some ways if we got back to that, Don, where we could just say, okay, that's the Democrat newspaper, like the New York Times.
00:29:06.000Well, now Now, her political journey started three weeks ago.
00:29:10.000We have no idea what she's ever thought about any issue, despite years in politics.
00:29:15.000No failures, despite being an attorney general, despite being in the Senate for years, despite all of these things, despite being, you know, the borders are.
00:29:36.000No, I mean, I think there's two polls and I, listen, I love a good poll, but polls are kind of snapshots of that might or might not be true in the future.
00:29:45.000I want to talk about the real numbers that I pay attention to, but let's just say, let's look at these numbers.
00:29:49.000Quinnipiac, Joe Biden up September of 2020 by 10 points over your dad.
00:30:27.000So, I think people are starting to go, well, first of all, can I just say, I think some people are watching one debate, and the Normies and Independents were watching another debate with the ABC, and again, ABC totally rigged, moderated.
00:30:41.000I kind of wish your dad had just said to Muir and the gal, Davis, why don't you guys just get up from behind there and go stand behind the podium with Kamala?
00:33:33.000You can kind of see his planes look really nice.
00:33:38.000No, but back to how are we going to prevent these people from gaining power, abusing the administrative state even more, because then they'd be simpatico.
00:33:47.000So back to the real numbers, and this to me is, I mean, I love commentating, I love writing books, my real job We're doing absentee ballot chase and early voting projects in four key states.
00:33:59.000And I have been beating the drum on this.
00:34:01.000We'll probably have about 1,500 people in Arizona, Nevada, Wisconsin, North Carolina.
00:34:06.000People have asked, give us a positive message, Ned.
00:34:34.000The next 40 days are all about your dad winning, hopefully getting the Senate and the House with people that will actually support him.
00:34:42.000Yeah, like we need 54 Senate, not 51, because we have too many weaklings in the Senate that, you know, With senators like, let's say, Mitt Romney and some other senators from actually very conservative states that are rhino at best, it's amazing.
00:34:57.000It's always the most conservative state that has the weakest senators.
00:34:59.000It's crazy to me, but, you know, I guess the Democrats vote for the weak ones because they realize they're never going to get a Democrat, so you get stuck with a squish.
00:35:24.000Chevron deference, we're not doing that anymore.
00:35:26.000We're not going to let the SEC, the Security and Exchange Commission, have their private administrative law tribunals, unconstitutional, annihilates the Seventh Amendment.
00:35:34.000So you're seeing cracks in the foundation of the administrative state.
00:35:38.000I think, when I talk with the American people at American Majority Trainings, that we do constantly everywhere, they're trying to figure out, what is going on?
00:36:09.000If you're not gonna vote by mail, are you gonna vote first day, early voting starts?
00:36:14.000Because, and then on top of that, I love, it's the Trump 47, get 10 people, get them to the polls, get them to have a plan.
00:36:22.000And the fact that, the thing I love about what your dad is doing right now, and I mean this in all sincerity, he realizes the rules of the game.
00:36:28.000And the rules of the game are, you know what, we do have absentee ballot.
00:37:36.000I think too many Republicans, as you're saying, in these red states have have been not as engaged in a primary vote as they should be.
00:37:44.000A party is what people say it is, Don, and the people who say what it is are those that show up and win primaries and those that show up at conventions.
00:37:52.000I would love to say that I came up with that quote myself.
00:37:54.000In fact, I'm quoting a communist from the 1970s who said the communists should actually join the Democratic Party.
00:38:01.000That's what we need to have the mindset of changing the Republican Party to the essence of America first.
00:38:07.000But the only way you do that is win primaries, show book conventions.
00:38:11.000And then Donald J. Trump might actually have a majority America first in the Senate, might have a majority America first in the House.
00:38:20.000Until he gets those, he's going to have to fight alone for the most part.
00:38:23.000But as an executive, as head of the executive branch, he could do a lot of damage.
00:38:26.000But I would really like, Don, to have a U.S.
00:40:00.000So they do what it takes to stay, not what their people actually want.
00:40:04.000And this is one of the other reasons that, again, just to kind of go back to some of the administrative state and everything that's wrong with D.C.
00:40:12.000right now, the Article 1 legislative branch decided years ago, and I kind of pinpointed the book, late
00:40:18.0001960s, early 70s, we're not going to really govern anymore, we're not going
00:40:21.000to legislate, because we might actually have to make hard decisions that might endanger our re-election.
00:40:27.000So we're going to pass these four or five thousand page bills, we're going to kind of
00:40:31.000frame it out, and then we're not going to read it because that's not really the point.
00:40:34.000We're going to send it to the unelected bureaucrats in the Article 2 branch, and with their statutes and regulations, they're going to put a fine point on it and do the actual governing.
00:40:42.000It allows the elected officials to kind of duck the hard choices.
00:40:46.000Then they can go back and tell their voters, You know, I tried, but it's that guy at the EPA or FDA or whatever department agency that really did that.
00:40:54.000I'm gonna go, but you need to re-elect me so I can go back to D.C.
00:40:57.000and fight for you on your behalf against these terrible regulations as they pass the bill, as they continue to fund them.
00:41:03.000And again, it all comes back to, they love being in D.C., they love self-preservation, they love the whole lifestyle, and it is the pinnacle of their career, and they want to come back every two years or six years.
00:41:37.000So we've broken out of that traditional mold of having Another somewhat slow and inefficient Leviathan actually making these moves and having it be done by nimble parties in those places who understand that backyard.
00:42:56.000And the last thing I'll say is this, we have to restore the republic, but the first step, he talks about draining the swamp, your dad does.
00:43:02.000The foundation of the swamp is the state.
00:43:05.000If you break the state, you will drain the swamp, and you'll give us a shot to restore the republic.
00:44:18.000Support those great, freedom-loving, small businesses that are the American economy's lifeblood.
00:44:27.000And guys, in theaters now, a new movie from Dinesh D'Souza called Vindicating Trump, telling you the story of how the left is creating lawlessness at the highest level of government, and why my father is the only one standing in the way.
00:48:22.000And what I want to make the case for is that, no, Your dad, Trump, comes with a package of qualities that is peculiarly suited to the crisis and the challenges we face today.
00:48:36.000Yes, you can make an argument that at some other time in American history, he's not the perfect guy, but for now, I think he's not just the perfect guy, but the only guy, and the film, and there's an accompanying book to come of the same title, makes the case for Trump without any kind of waffling or hesitation.
00:48:54.000Yeah, you don't have to follow him on Truth Social.
00:48:57.000You don't have to like everything that he says.
00:49:35.000Maybe they understood and saw the resolve that we all witnessed on, you know, July 13th, coming back and fighting after getting shot in the face.
00:49:44.000And they were like, you know what, that guy's kind of tough.
00:49:46.000He proved it to the rest of the world, if there were any doubters, but...
00:49:49.000Maybe you need that level of attitude.
00:49:51.000Maybe we don't live in a world that, you know, everyone views through rose-colored glasses because it's just not realistic.
00:49:56.000We'd love that to be the case, but, you know, we can't live in fantasy land.
00:50:01.000You know, people would say sometimes of General Grant during the Civil War that, you know, this guy cusses a lot, he's a heavy drinker.
00:50:08.000The point to make is that those qualities are part of a package that made Grant this kind of a pugnacious, never give up, always be moving forward.
00:50:18.000An effective fighter on the battlefield.
00:50:21.000And I think the same is true with Donald Trump.
00:50:24.000This is a guy who has the supreme virtue of courage.
00:50:27.000Now, we saw it obviously with the assassination attempts.
00:50:30.000I mean, no other person that I can think of, not just in America, in the world, would have responded like your dad, which is, hey, number one, I'm a little annoyed that I'm being interrupted in my golf game.
00:51:07.000I mean, he has such a rope-a-dope that he's managed somehow to frustrate multiple cases going on at the same time.
00:51:15.000So he has what Aristotle calls the supreme virtue of bravery, which Aristotle says is the number one virtue.
00:51:22.000It's the number one political virtue for sure, but it's the number one virtue in general because it gives you the strength to do all the other virtues.
00:51:30.000Yeah, I think I saw it on Twitter or Truth Social this week.
00:51:35.000Someone said Trump's superpower is that he has the ability to make his enemies look like morons.
00:51:42.000You know, even in their own words, meaning they just can't react to them, that they look insane.
00:51:46.000And you see Kamala Harris talking about Her economic plans, and can't answer a simple question, has no idea.
00:51:53.000She's the candidate of change, but she's had four years to change, and every change has been for the worse.
00:51:59.000It's sort of interesting, but yes, that takes guts, because there's consequences to being vocal.
00:52:02.000There's consequences to speaking out against that machine.
00:52:05.000The other thing about your dad, and you know this better than anyone else, but those of us who have had a glimpse of your dad up close know that he has personal qualities that very interestingly have not been seen by many people.
00:52:17.000And I think because your dad is a man's man, he's sometimes a little reluctant to show those qualities.
00:52:23.000So when I did the one-on-one with your dad, you know, 45 minutes, I wanted to sit really close up to him because I wanted to draw an aspect out of him that I think is very attractive.
00:52:33.000That people need to see but that your dad in some ways doesn't put on the public stage.
00:52:39.000I think that's one of the real strengths of this film is it kind of shows the tumblers of your dad's mind working and it gives you a little bit of a window into your dad's soul.
00:52:47.000I'm not trying to give you a kind of a different picture of Trump.
00:52:50.000I'm just trying to round out the picture so people can see him in a sense as a whole.
00:54:18.000We show you what goes on inside the intelligence agencies.
00:54:20.000And this is important because, you know, you and I might wonder, let's just say your dad is going through the New York, you know, 34 felony convictions.
00:54:28.000Like, how is that received in the newsrooms of the New York Times?
00:54:32.000So those guys just watch it with equanimity and go, We need to do objective coverage of that event.
00:54:37.000Or do they jump up and cheer, high-five each other?
00:54:44.000The cool thing about a movie is you can show people those sorts of things.
00:54:48.000And then, of course, there's an element in the film, a section called the ballot makers.
00:54:53.000And I texted you about that this morning.
00:54:55.000This is a very creepy part of the film because we're exploring vulnerabilities in our election system, and it turns out we do not protect our ballots the way that we protect, for example, our $20 or $100 bills.
00:55:08.000Yeah, no, you were tweeting some of that about it, and it never ceases to amaze me.
00:55:12.000But how did the whole film come together?
00:55:30.000There's probably 20 to 25 minutes in the movie.
00:55:33.000I interviewed Laura Trump both about the personal side of Donald Trump, but also about election integrity because of her position as co-chair of the RNC.
00:55:43.000And I have a fairly detailed discussion with Alina Haba focusing on the legal cases, because the film is sort of divided into, well, we call it actually multiple assassinations.
00:56:35.000But now this film is opening in 850 theaters, multiple showings a day, this weekend, and VindicatingTrump.com is the website.
00:56:44.000If you go there, you can put in your zip code or your city, your town, boom, the theaters will come up.
00:56:48.000So see it this weekend, because seeing a film in the opening weekend is like putting rocket fuel into the film.
00:56:55.000It magnifies the film and goes into more theaters.
00:56:58.000And, you know, I think, Don, these films are a way of doing an end run around the media.
00:57:04.000I'm not the only guy making them these days, which I'm happy to say, but I think I make them as well, if not better than anyone else.
00:57:10.000And this is a film to be seen this weekend, if you can possibly go with family and friends.
00:57:15.000So, Dinesh, in all of your movies, you really do a great job of sort of laying out the left's attack on our, really, our most vital and perhaps our most vulnerable institutions, even if they shouldn't be vulnerable, but from the justice system to election offices to everywhere, you know, in between.
00:57:32.000What is it about the America First movement that has these corrupt, broken, bad actors Pressing the panic button in such a way.
00:57:41.000I mean, again, I don't think there's an objective metric where we're better off now than we were four years ago.
00:57:46.000Why not say, hey, let Trump get it back to normal, you know, they can get back to, you know, their drive-through abortions in four years, whatever it is that they really care about, you know, transgender surgeries for three-year-olds without parental consent.
00:57:57.000You know, what is it that has these people so panicked?
00:58:00.000I think that your dad, I think that Trump exposed the fullness of the racket that has become American politics.
00:58:08.000I've got to say that even in my early days, going back to the Reagan years, we were aware of the government racket in domestic policy.
00:58:15.000We would talk about, for example, the housing department as a racket, or for example, the welfare programs were a racket.
00:58:22.000But we made an exception for the Defense Department.
00:58:24.000We thought, oh no, we're fighting a cold war, so even though they're buying $500 coffee pots, We're not going to worry about that too much because we've got to defeat the Russians.
00:58:31.000I think what happened with your dad is he comes along and he shows that this corruption has metastasized so much that not only is it in foreign and domestic policy, but it's even in places like the health authorities.
00:58:43.000I mean, who knew you couldn't trust the guys in the white lab coats when a pandemic comes along, but it turns out you can't.
00:58:50.000I liken it to a kind of a big watering hole.
00:58:54.000The Democrats have all the best positions at the swamp, but they make some room for some Republicans as well.
00:59:00.000And so your dad comes along, I'm going to drain that swamp.
00:59:03.000And all these guys go nuts because their whole livelihood, their whole prestige, the reason that there are cars waiting for them and people who open the door for them to get in is all because of their Position at the swamp.
00:59:19.000So your dad is a very scary guy to these guys who have made a comfortable, got a comfortable racket going, and some of them are in the Republican Party.
00:59:30.000I guess relating to all of that, how is it that my father can inspire sort of such radically opposite reactions to the point where it feels like there's some that are out there that would take a bullet for him and then there's others who would celebrate would-be assassins who actually try to take his life?
00:59:49.000How do you create that level of dichotomy?
00:59:52.000You'd have to go back to Lincoln to find a figure that inspired this sort of radically opposed reactions.
00:59:58.000And even with Lincoln, the controversy was not over Lincoln.
01:00:26.000You've got all the cultural elites at the top of the escalator.
01:00:29.000You know, you've got Oprah, you've got Ellen DeGeneres, the Hollywood people, all the people who sucked up to your dad, wanted to be photographed with your dad, your dad was the coolest cat ever, he's the embodiment of the American dream.
01:00:39.000And then your dad does a very fateful thing.
01:00:42.000He gets on the escalator and he goes down, which is to say he descends.
01:01:01.000The Republicans haven't cared about him.
01:01:03.000And here's your dad, who has no reason to care about this guy, but he does.
01:01:08.000And he takes up the cause of this guy.
01:01:09.000So I think you can see right away why the forgotten American is joined at the hip to your dad because your dad has agreed to champion his cause or her cause.
01:01:18.000And at the same token, the people at the top, the cultural elite, they were like, wait a minute, you, Donald Trump, used to be one of us.
01:01:28.000You are selling us out and joining with all the pitchfork people and taking up their cause against us.
01:01:33.000So I think right here in a single image, you get a little picture of why there are some people who love Trump and will stick by him no matter what.
01:01:41.000And then you've got these begrudging, resentful, envious, hate-cultural elites that will never forgive your dad.
01:01:49.000The same people who loved him now have turned against him.
01:01:53.000So this film, Vindicating Trump, it's in theaters across the country.
01:01:57.000Are you concerned about the usual cancel culture tactics or any kind of funny business?
01:02:03.000And again, where can people go to find it?
01:02:06.000Because again, I think it is important to get it out there.
01:02:13.000Are you going to make it available outside of theaters as well before the election so that, again, everyone has a chance to go see what exactly is going on?
01:02:23.000But right now, it's in the best place it should be, which is you can see it in the theater, and you can see it with like-minded people, and you'll go nuts.
01:02:29.000I mean, very often at the end of my film, the whole theater erupts in applause.
01:02:35.000It's in a lot of theaters, about 850, so it's all over the country.
01:02:39.000You should be able to find it within 15 minutes, maybe 30 minutes at the most, even if you live in a rural area.
01:02:45.000You can buy tickets any the which way.
01:02:46.000You can get them at Fandango, all the normal movie sites, or just go to VindicatingTrump.com, that's the movie website, and you put in your zip code, your town, the theaters will come up, buy tickets straight off of that.
01:02:58.000So we've made it easy for people to see the film.
01:03:00.000And by the way, this is not like, it's not showing like one showing a day, multiple showings a day throughout the weekend.
01:03:07.000So the theater is, it's made for the theater.
01:03:09.000It's the best way to see it, but there'll be other ways to see it further down the road.
01:03:13.000Does the film have a message, say, for independents, for people who, you know, maybe feel, you know, politically, you know, isolated or on an island, first-time voters, or, you know, honestly, even perhaps Democrats.
01:03:23.000I mean, I would stress the safety and what's going on around the world.
01:03:26.000You would think they would care, but, you know, maybe not.
01:03:29.000The film makes both a policy case for Trump but also a character defense of Trump.
01:03:36.000What it shows is that Trump is the guy to take on this tightening noose that is eroding and threatening and choking off one by one our basic liberties.
01:03:48.000So this goes beyond the traditional Republican-Democrat fight over tax rates, or even over the border.
01:03:54.000Because what we've seen is this kind of emerging police state.
01:04:24.000It's not something that's heavy-handed.
01:04:25.000It's not... See, the thing about it, Don, is if I were to tell you about, let's say, my childhood in India, you'd have no good sense of what that was like.
01:04:33.000But if I showed you a video and said, there I am as a kid, that was my room.
01:04:37.000That's the guy with the monkey who would come out on the street and do tricks.
01:04:40.000These are the vendors who came shouting outside my door.
01:04:43.000You'd be like, wow, I can see for myself what it was like for you to grow up.
01:04:47.000So what a movie can do is it show, not tell.
01:04:50.000And as a result, if you're an independent voter, I'm not in a heavy-handed way trying to sell you on something.
01:05:41.000They'll come up with another game that we haven't thought of, and then you have no standing two minutes after the election, even if it's clearly fraud.
01:05:50.000Can people feel confident that that stuff's not going on?
01:05:53.000I mean, you know, I see so many people, you know, half of them are probably, you know, in in the comments or in the, you know, in the live chat right now.
01:06:01.000You know, they're probably Democrats pretending to be so demoralized to get others to sit at home so they never show up.
01:06:06.000Half the polling is designed to make you overconfident.
01:06:08.000The other half is designed to have you be demoralized so you don't bother to vote.
01:06:14.000Do you think it's harder for them to get away with it in a post-COVID world?
01:06:21.000Is there a pitfall that you see that we're not covering?
01:06:24.000I'd love to get your thoughts on that, because I imagine that's going to be a question that's on top of people's minds.
01:06:28.000Doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the movie, but as someone who's been a student of the fraud, you know, What do you think happens?
01:06:35.000I mean, actually, Don, it's right there in the movie, and I'll say why.
01:06:39.000Because I think that they cannot do the 2,000 mules cheat in exactly the same way again.
01:06:48.000If mules show up at one o'clock in the morning looking left and right with backpacks full of ballots, they're going to be patriots waiting for them with cell phones turned on.
01:07:14.000And we have an explosive vulnerability of our election system, but my motive in exposing it and putting it out there It's to make it impossible for it to be carried out.
01:07:22.000It's kind of like if I was saying, listen, I found a back door that is open in Fort Knox.
01:07:27.000I'm going to show you that they don't lock this door on weekends.
01:07:37.000It is called, intriguingly, The Ballot Makers.
01:07:41.000And that section alone is worth the price of the film.
01:07:43.000But the film integrates that theme because, of course, All Republicans are concerned about the issue of election integrity after what happened in 2020.
01:07:52.000Yeah, Hunter, I mean, I think, you know, a big part of them being able to get on TV and tell us it was the freest and fairest election, even if we, you know, have hundreds of thousands of ballots being mailed to homes and there's no idea, no nothing, you know, they can just say that and get away with it.
01:08:06.000I think, you know, they did that effectively last time under the guise of COVID under this.
01:08:10.000But a whole the whole premise of switching out Joe Biden wasn't that he was going to you know, just lose, it's that if they played those games
01:08:19.000and he somehow won, no one would believe it.
01:08:23.000And you know, a key I think to even the Democrats, and even if they're happy with the result,
01:08:27.000a key to this notion of democracy that they talk about all the time, and you know, again,
01:08:31.000for them it's a cocktail party, it's a laughing soundbite, they think we're morons, but is
01:08:35.000that it had to be a little bit believable.
01:08:38.000You know, now that I've had a few weeks actually trying to listen to Kamala Harris every once
01:09:03.000It's one thing to have had a mind that is now deteriorated.
01:09:06.000It's another thing to have the kind of so-called non-mind that Kamala Harris so often expresses.
01:09:13.000But I think you said, you know, switching him out, and that alone is a very telling phrase right there, because I think what we're seeing, to my knowledge, is unprecedented in American history, because no one doubted that in the past, let's say Bill Clinton was the head of the Democratic Party, or before him, let's say Jimmy Carter, or even a candidate like Dukakis, they were calling the shots.
01:10:11.000The party that talks about democracy really has no sense of democracy at all and doesn't certainly practice it.
01:10:17.000Yeah, I mean, I think even Gavin Newsom now, he probably feels bitter that they didn't choose him or install, I should say, install him because there was no choosing.
01:10:25.000But he's like, no, we had a duly elected process and she's the clear winner.
01:10:31.000And I'm like, There's not a single way of looking at this that you could say this was a fair process or had anything to do with democracy, and it doesn't matter.
01:10:44.000I mean, again, I think he was a little bit better, so it was maybe the one time he was, while he was perhaps tongue-in-cheek, rightfully bitter about what's going on, and actually called them out at their own game for the first time maybe ever.
01:10:57.000Yeah, they're trying to pull a fast one on the American people in so many ways.
01:11:00.000I mean, look, even in tyrannical regimes today, we know who the leader is, right?
01:11:45.000We have created this new and improved Kavala Harris, this smoke and mirrors, and we're counting on you to believe this propaganda, this image, over your own experience.
01:11:56.000So in some ways, it's almost like the election is a test of the emotional, intellectual, and psychological IQ of the American people.
01:12:29.000And so, Dinesh, it's great that people like you are actually going out there, putting your blood, sweat, tears and capital into it to make sure that other people see it.
01:12:50.000We're going to be at the debate with JD Vance tomorrow night.
01:12:53.000Be sure to go check out our incredible sponsors, the people who have the guts to actually support programming like this, to reach a team of licensed tax professionals that can help you reduce, settle, and resolve your tax matters.