Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - Out of this World: Breaking News Investigation on Secret Alien Aircrafts, Live with Ross Coulthart & Lue Elizondo | TRIGGERED Ep.207

00:00:00.000 Thank you.

00:05:28.000 This one's going to be a big one.

00:05:29.000 Sorry for the change in day.

00:05:31.000 We're normally Monday, Thursday at 6 p.m., just obviously with all the insanity around the inauguration and travel and this and events.

00:05:37.000 We had to mix and match a little bit this week, so hopefully you guys can bear with us.

00:05:41.000 But we've got some major investigations into secret alien aircraft retrieval programs.

00:05:47.000 And the journalist at the center of uncovering the story...

00:05:51.000 News Nation journalist Ross Colt Hart will be here to lay it all out.

00:05:56.000 And then we'll get reaction from friend of the show, Lou Elizondo, who worked on these very issues while he was in our government.

00:06:06.000 I was joking last episode that there's so much going on that we sort of glossed over the fact that we have actual evidence, I mean, think about it, of non-human intelligence and UAP aircraft.

00:06:19.000 It's a massive, growing story, and we're going to dive deep into all of it.

00:06:24.000 Crazily enough, the world is in such an insane place right now that as we start seeing this very clear, very objective evidence of something we've all been wondering about for probably a really long time, it's like, eh, who knows?

00:06:39.000 But I imagine today, after we break some of this news, hopefully we have a lot more to talk about with it.

00:06:47.000 And maybe we calm down the rest of the stuff that we can focus on how major a discovery all of this is.

00:06:53.000 There's obviously a lot of other big news.

00:06:55.000 We'll get towards that at the end of the show, including my father brokering a deal to get the Israeli hostages back.

00:07:02.000 Now, remember, I'm sure the media will say it was the Biden administration.

00:07:05.000 But if you recall, it was the day after the election when Hamas said, OK, you know what? 0.87

00:07:09.000 We should really start talking.

00:07:11.000 You know, now that daddy's home, maybe we have to start having a conversation about these things.

00:07:16.000 It looks like it worked.

00:07:18.000 That's all happening.

00:07:19.000 Last week when he put out the threat there's going to basically be hell to pay if they don't return the hostages by the time he's in office.

00:07:26.000 Seems like that worked also.

00:07:29.000 So we also have confirmation hearings that are taking place on Capitol Hill as we speak.

00:07:35.000 So we'll cover that later in the show.

00:07:38.000 I even may have a couple minutes to take some of your questions to hear what you guys are thinking about all of it.

00:07:43.000 And of course...

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00:08:29.000 And we're going to begin with our top story surrounding new explosive investigations into what we're told is a covert government alien aircraft retrieval program.

00:08:41.000 The journalist, Ross Colhart, who will be here in moments, is unveiling a years-long investigation, including interviews with Special Operation Whistleblowers, okay?

00:08:52.000 People who actually have seen these things, who have come out, who are finally now talking about one of the greatest mysteries, perhaps, of modern time, wondering if there is extraterrestrial life.

00:09:04.000 Here's a clip laying out some of what he's found.

00:09:10.000 Tell me about the moment when you realised that you were involved in a retrieval of non-human technology, alien tech.

00:09:19.000 So it became very clear the first time our communication process and procedure was modified and then just visually looking at the object on the ground you could tell that it was extraordinary and anomalous.

00:09:34.000 It was not human.

00:09:36.000 How close did you get?

00:09:38.000 Well, I was a helicopter pilot, and I operate with a 150-foot to 200-foot long line, so I got within 150 feet of this object.

00:09:47.000 What did you see?

00:09:48.000 I saw an egg, a white egg.

00:09:52.000 Was there any visible propulsion system on it?

00:09:54.000 No, not what we would know.

00:09:56.000 There's no engine, there was no thermal signature.

00:10:00.000 I was operating at night when I finally came in to pick it up, so I'm working under night vision goggles at the time.

00:10:08.000 And it was quite clear.

00:10:09.000 I flipped them up, flipped them down, and looked at it a couple of different ways.

00:10:14.000 How did you know that that egg-shaped object was non-human in origin?

00:10:20.000 Visually, after seeing all kinds of things in my past, it was clearly something that was ridiculously looking.

00:10:28.000 It's inconsistent with anything I'd ever seen before.

00:10:30.000 I can also tell you that the reaction by my team, we all knew we were dealing with something extraordinary.

00:10:37.000 And at no stage were you ever subsequently told that the craft was of non-human origin.

00:10:43.000 I will tell you that during this process over the last couple of years, it's been confirmed to me by ranking members of the UAP task force that what we were working with that night was in fact an HI and it was not a unique experience.

00:10:57.000 And that's not all, guys.

00:10:59.000 The whistleblowers are saying something that seemed literally unimaginable not too long ago.

00:11:06.000 Are not alone.

00:11:07.000 Check this out.

00:11:09.000 How long have you known this secret about unidentified anomalous phenomena being of non-human origin?

00:11:18.000 For more than 10 years, we did recover things that were exotic in nature in the sky, and we know they were classified craft.

00:11:27.000 And we recovered them and took them back to where they go.

00:11:30.000 Now that is clearly technology that is certainly not known.

00:11:35.000 I got within 150 feet of this object.

00:11:38.000 We are not alone.

00:11:39.000 We are not alone.

00:11:42.000 Guys, we're going to cover a lot of ground here.

00:11:46.000 So joining me now to explain so much more about what he's learned, investigative journalist and correspondent for NewsNation, Ross Colt Hart.

00:11:56.000 Ross, thank you so much for being here.

00:11:58.000 G'day, Don.

00:11:59.000 It's good to join you.

00:12:00.000 So, I mean, this is a groundbreaking story.

00:12:03.000 We've been seeing, you know, sort of photos over the last few years, definitely started backing up a lot of what we're hearing.

00:12:10.000 But perhaps this is the biggest story of your career.

00:12:13.000 I know it's been a long journey getting to this point.

00:12:16.000 Can you lay out this investigation and really the most shocking findings?

00:12:20.000 You know, it's funny, Don.

00:12:21.000 I'll actually attribute something to you.

00:12:23.000 One of the reasons I got my curiosity twigged about this story was because of an interview you did with your dad before the...

00:12:31.000 Last election, where he ran for president, and I think you actually asked him about Roswell, and he indicated at the time that he knew something, but he didn't go any further.

00:12:41.000 And it made it very, very clear to me that whatever your dad knew, he hadn't been given the full story, because by that stage, I knew about the retrieval program.

00:12:51.000 And I think the most disturbing implications of this, and we explore this at 8pm Eastern Time on Saturday night in the News Nation story.

00:13:00.000 What we will be doing is revealing how presidents haven't been told this.

00:13:07.000 Congress hasn't been told this.

00:13:09.000 It's been withheld from the public's knowledge.

00:13:11.000 And to some degree, allegations of a covert group of people, if you like, a deep state, essentially doing things outside of congressional scrutiny, it's real.

00:13:22.000 It's damn real.

00:13:23.000 And it's quite scary. 0.91

00:13:24.000 Yeah, I mean, this is definitely one of the biggest stories ever.

00:13:27.000 I know, you know, that was right before the 2020 election.

00:13:30.000 And I asked him that question because it literally, to me, that was more important than, you know, who the shooter on the grassy knoll was.

00:13:36.000 Like, is there other life?

00:13:38.000 Yeah, he definitely gave me a little bit of a look like, you know, maybe we'll get to this later.

00:13:42.000 But I don't know if it was enough for what people want to hear.

00:13:45.000 But, you know, that doesn't surprise me.

00:13:47.000 We've seen so much of that where, whether it's my father or I'm sure Joe Biden or other presidents, you know, that deep state.

00:13:54.000 Sort of gives someone enough information to get the answer that they want, but not all of the information to get the answer that perhaps that person would actually give if they actually had all of that information.

00:14:08.000 So, you know, that's pretty fundamental.

00:14:10.000 And it's sort of strange, again, that the unelected bureaucrats have this kind of information, but we don't even have the ability to decide whether it's something that should perhaps be made clear to the public or others.

00:14:21.000 Well, in this case, we're going to make it very clear, Don.

00:14:24.000 Basically, the public has been lied to.

00:14:26.000 I'm shocked as a journalist that the mainstream media have failed in the main.

00:14:31.000 They've allowed themselves to be led by the nose by people in the national security state, the different intelligence agencies that have frankly misled and lied the public for years.

00:14:42.000 And what we're revealing is...

00:14:45.000 First-hand evidence from people who are top-level, trained, tier-one military operatives, patriots, men who love their country with a passion but who understand also that there's an accountability problem here, that there are faceless people inside the national security bureaucracy who have taken it upon themselves to conduct.

00:15:09.000 The expenditure of possibly billions, if not trillions of dollars on a covert program that is being deliberately concealed from Congress.

00:15:19.000 And having spoken to people, I'd love to hear one day what your dad would say about this and how much he's actually been told, because I know he's been Partially briefed, partially read into the UAP program, and I'm not inviting you to comment about that, but I'd love to know what successive presidents would say about what they've been told,

00:15:39.000 because I think even the commanders-in-chief over the years have been lied to about this, and I think there's a pretext that goes right back to the 1950s to justify the secrecy.

00:15:53.000 Apparently, President Eisenhower made an order that this would all be kept I reached out as a journalist several years ago thinking I was going to debunk this story, thinking I was going to find out that it was another laudable American black program that we were developing advanced aerospace technology.

00:16:20.000 What I actually discovered when I started talking to people in the military, in the intelligence community, is that This is real.

00:16:28.000 There really is a legacy retrieval program.

00:16:31.000 And it didn't take me long before I stumbled across the gentleman who features in our story this week, Jake.

00:16:37.000 And he's telling us an extraordinary story.

00:16:40.000 He's telling us how he was involved in the recovery of alien vehicles and that these vehicles have been recovered by the United States, in some cases brought down.

00:16:53.000 Buy high powered microwave technology.

00:16:56.000 And in other cases, they appear to have landed freely.

00:17:01.000 And this is something that's been going on in secret for years, possibly decades.

00:17:07.000 And I, for the life of me, do not know why people in the national security establishment think that they continued colluding to conceal this from the public and frankly, lying.

00:17:18.000 To the public.

00:17:19.000 I mean, as recently as November, we were assured in a presentation to Congress by one representative of the Pentagon that there was no evidence of extraterrestrial visitation or engagement with this planet.

00:17:32.000 That is a flat out lie.

00:17:35.000 And you will see the evidence this weekend on NewsNation at 8pm Eastern Time.

00:17:41.000 And we will present the definitive evidence from first hand whistleblowers.

00:17:46.000 Corroborated by people who've worked with this person, their military service is impeccable.

00:17:52.000 We also have other evidence that we will present, which is absolutely definitive that what we are talking about here is a non-human technology.

00:18:02.000 The allegations are simply quite extraordinary.

00:18:05.000 And I think, as you would know, because you've actually, I understand, been taking quite a close interest in this subject, there are so many people around America who do not buy the official explanation that this is all nonsense, that it's all hysterical tinfoil gossip.

00:18:22.000 There is a lot of solid, hard evidence to substantiate this.

00:18:27.000 Whistleblowers come forward all the time.

00:18:29.000 And what has happened until now has been successive presidents have allowed themselves to be deceived.

00:18:36.000 And I think one of the problems in Congress is senators, congresspeople, they're allowing themselves to be manipulated by large chunks of money from defence aerospace that stop them from talking candidly about these issues.

00:18:52.000 And I'm talking, Don, to scientists inside the program and these witnesses who are military people who've actually worked at the highest level of the military, including one of them who's worked in Delta Force, and they're talking exclusively for the first time about their knowledge of these programs, their first-hand role in the recovery of...

00:19:14.000 What they say and know are alien vehicles.

00:19:18.000 I think that's a really big deal, what you brought up.

00:19:21.000 If you have a Delta Force operator, if you have other military personnel with impeccable records, it feels like over the course of the last 50 years of my lifetime, any story, it's some person who can barely speak or put together a coherent sentence and they were abducted in a farm field in the middle of nowhere.

00:19:39.000 These are Delta Force operators.

00:19:41.000 These are serious people.

00:19:42.000 These are some of the most qualified military operators anywhere in the world.

00:19:46.000 This isn't the proverbial sort of podunk witness that's either perhaps been created that way to protect the narrative, which also wouldn't surprise me.

00:19:58.000 But these are serious people, multiple corroborations, not just a one-off lunatic.

00:20:05.000 I can emphasise also, Don, just to emphasise what you're saying there, they haven't just done this willy-nilly.

00:20:12.000 They've actually done the right thing.

00:20:14.000 They've given the Pentagon the information.

00:20:16.000 This is the real kicker in this.

00:20:19.000 I can tell you, with their authorisation, that they took this information to Dr Sean Kirkpatrick of the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, the Pentagon's UFO office.

00:20:31.000 He knew about this.

00:20:33.000 And yet he told Congress something different.

00:20:36.000 That's something that should be investigated.

00:20:38.000 They tell me they presented definitive evidence, including imagery of UAPs to Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick of Arrow, and he did nothing with it.

00:20:51.000 And Don, this is a real concern, and this is something I would urge your dad to order an investigation into.

00:20:57.000 Please, the public have got a right to know this.

00:21:01.000 When Dr. John Kozlowski, who's a good guy, I'm told, who's taken over Arrow, when he came into the job late last year, he couldn't find, when he was re-approached by the same team who came to him to tell him the same information, he couldn't find that information inside the Pentagon's UFO office.

00:21:22.000 Had disappeared.

00:21:23.000 And so the very office that's been set up by the Defence Department to investigate this issue and to supposedly give you and me and the general public the truth about what the government really knows about UAPs, it would appear the information somehow got lost.

00:21:41.000 And I think that deserves and demands investigation.

00:21:45.000 100%.

00:21:45.000 I had a similar...

00:21:47.000 Anna Paulina Luna, a congresswoman from Florida, was on the show on Monday. 0.82

00:21:51.000 We were obviously talking about a lot, given the confirmation hearings, everything that's going on, but she's been one of those people that's been investigating this.

00:21:57.000 I think she's on the Oversight Committee, so this is something that you would think would be up her purview.

00:22:02.000 And she said when she went to go inquire about it, even in a classified manner, even with the appropriate clearances, just totally stonewalled.

00:22:10.000 But the stuff she was able to find matched so many of the things...

00:22:14.000 That you are talking about.

00:22:15.000 You couple all of this, Ross, with the Pentagon failing seven audits, the missing $250 billion, and it's probably a lot more.

00:22:27.000 Maybe it went to Ukraine, who the heck knows, and whatever other black programs that they're running. 1.00

00:22:32.000 But man, it seems like they could be spending a lot of our money looking into this.

00:22:36.000 They have a lot more information that they're unwilling to disclose.

00:22:40.000 Well, Don, I can tell you I am talking to a whole lot of people.

00:22:44.000 Behind the scenes, who are toying with coming forward, and I know other colleagues of mine are also talking to legacy UAP program witnesses who want to give this evidence.

00:22:55.000 They want to testify.

00:22:56.000 But what they're not getting from Congress or the Pentagon's UFO Investigation Office is honesty and credibility with their willingness to actually engage with them and give their evidence.

00:23:06.000 I really think what you need in America is what happened way back in the 70s, some kind of church commission inquiry that basically digs into this in a public way and brings these people before a public hearing and puts them under oath.

00:23:22.000 And Lord help them if they lie, because I can tell you, people have taken insurance on this.

00:23:29.000 If the Pentagon tries to lie its way out of this, and I'm not saying everybody in the Pentagon knows this because I have friends at senior levels in the military and the intelligence community who assure me they know nothing about this.

00:23:42.000 They're good people, and they say they should know.

00:23:45.000 They should have been briefed into this.

00:23:47.000 And they're as appalled as you and I are that this program is being kept secret.

00:23:52.000 And they think it's time the public got the truth.

00:23:55.000 And so what I really think needs to happen is some kind of public inquiry where this is all brought out in the open.

00:24:02.000 And it may very well be, sir, that there are things that need to be protected.

00:24:06.000 We all want to protect national security, and that's why these guys that are talking to me For me, they went to the Pentagon beforehand and let them know that they're talking to me.

00:24:17.000 They've actually admitted that they're doing an interview.

00:24:19.000 And the reason is they want to give the Pentagon an opportunity to do the right thing.

00:24:24.000 Because none of us want catastrophic disclosure.

00:24:27.000 If there is stuff that's needing to be protected, national security-sensitive information, weaponry, propulsion systems, energy systems, that would give America and my country, Australia, an ally, an advantage against foreign adversaries, then let's use it.

00:24:44.000 But it's improper that this is being kept secret from the American public, and more importantly, that successive administrations and Congress We are presenting the definitive evidence that these first-hand whistleblowers are giving us, that there has been a monstrous cover-up, and that, frankly, it's time this story was told.

00:25:12.000 Yeah, to be clear, you're also speaking with firsthand witnesses who are explicitly saying, you know, we are not alone.

00:25:19.000 I mean, this is not hearsay.

00:25:21.000 This is not the telephone game.

00:25:23.000 These are actual people who were there, who saw it with their own eyes, who were involved, multiple people.

00:25:28.000 What are the parameters and extent of this, you know, covert alien aircraft retrieval program?

00:25:34.000 What agencies, you know, perhaps other than the Pentagon, are involved?

00:25:38.000 And how much of a secret...

00:25:41.000 Was it until now?

00:25:42.000 I mean, are they not even communicating with other branches of the military?

00:25:45.000 They're clearly not cooperating all that much with Congress.

00:25:48.000 Perhaps they're even perjuring themselves before Congress.

00:25:51.000 I've actually spoken to somebody who's been a director of an organization, an administrator of a very senior organization.

00:25:59.000 It's not a three-letter agency, but it's a very highly respected agency involved in the aerospace area.

00:26:05.000 And he told me he was not briefed into this program.

00:26:08.000 But what we discovered is that the person three rungs below him was briefed in.

00:26:13.000 And that's how they've been doing this.

00:26:15.000 What the program's done is it's found people who will be compliant with the cover-up.

00:26:20.000 And that's where the immorality and illegality has come in.

00:26:24.000 Because whilst billions of dollars, and I can say billions conservatively, of taxpayers' money has been spent on building this...

00:26:34.000 Project and trying to reverse engineer these technologies, there's been no accountability to Congress.

00:26:40.000 And under the beautiful US Constitution, which is a document I envy, which gives Americans so many rights, Article 1, Section 9 enshrines congressional oversight of expenditure on everything in government.

00:26:55.000 And those expenditures have not been disclosed as they ought properly to have been.

00:27:01.000 Yeah, that doesn't surprise me much.

00:27:03.000 You see how that works, right?

00:27:04.000 The president can appoint the guy at the top, perhaps even a deputy.

00:27:07.000 But if they're going to those people three rungs below, you know, that's part of that sort of permanent Washington, the bureaucratic state.

00:27:14.000 Those are the people that control.

00:27:15.000 That's the political game.

00:27:16.000 They get their eventual promotions while they're off ramps by playing that game.

00:27:21.000 And that's how they've actually subverted the will of the people by...

00:27:25.000 Perhaps indirectly subverting the duly elected president of the United States and the people who he chooses to put in his cabinet or otherwise.

00:27:32.000 And I imagine that's the game.

00:27:33.000 Those are the people who are there.

00:27:35.000 You know, they'll be there before Trump, they'll be there after Trump one way or the other, not the people who would actually be able to give Trump the full information.

00:27:42.000 So it's shocking that the guy that is actually chosen, that does go through Senate confirmation, has no knowledge, but people way down below the ladder who are just part of that permanent, you know, DC swamp machine could be fully read into this, which...

00:27:56.000 You know, clearly lesser clearances, clearly less power.

00:27:59.000 Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us at all because that's how they function.

00:28:02.000 And this is just another indication of how broken the system is.

00:28:07.000 Yeah, Don, I can tell you there are people who want to come forward and they are good people.

00:28:12.000 A lot of them are scientists and they're frustrated because good science dictates that scientists share their information and talk about it so that they can get the breakthroughs we need.

00:28:22.000 And one of the things that I think your dad has actually talked about is the ridiculous, unnecessary secrecy of the bureaucracy that has often been used to hide incompetence and corruption.

00:28:33.000 And that's what I fear is going on here.

00:28:36.000 People I'm talking to inside this secret program, they tell me there is no good reason for the American public not to know about the existence of non-human intelligence.

00:28:47.000 There are good reasons why certain technologies might not be revealed, why You know, things that might be national security sensitive shouldn't be revealed.

00:28:55.000 That's cool.

00:28:56.000 And as a journalist, I respect that.

00:28:58.000 But what's been happening here is inside the program, people have been threatened.

00:29:03.000 And the allegation from these men that I'm talking to is that people have been murdered.

00:29:10.000 These are very grave claims that as part of the cover-up, there have been serious criminal offences committed to conceal this program.

00:29:20.000 What's sort of amazing when you think about it, you know, I look at, obviously, I've spent a lot more time with Elon Musk in the last few months during the transition.

00:29:26.000 I've been down to see, you know, SpaceX launch and the technology that he's been able to create.

00:29:32.000 You would think that they'd want to read in individuals like that.

00:29:36.000 Obviously, they'd have to, you know, go through whatever clearance processes.

00:29:40.000 But wouldn't we want to allow perhaps our greatest geniuses?

00:29:43.000 When you look at, you know, Elon's been able to do, you know, More than NASA that had a 75-year head start privately and in a few years.

00:29:52.000 Now he's outperforming Boeing, NASA, the establishment.

00:29:56.000 I'm sure him and his top scientists are probably far more competent than anyone we have in government as it relates to.

00:30:03.000 Propulsion systems, you know, et cetera, et cetera.

00:30:06.000 You would think you'd want to actually bring those in because if it is about weaponry, if it is about, you know, the future of propulsion, it feels like there's a lot of other people that should actually be right into that.

00:30:18.000 That can be done secretly.

00:30:19.000 That can be done in a skiff or however you do it.

00:30:21.000 But you would think you'd want their input as well, not simply leaving it with, you know, fourth tier government rung type employees.

00:30:29.000 I mean, if you're trying to maximize...

00:30:31.000 The most of the science, and we're told a lot lately to trust the science, wouldn't we want to bring in our best and not keep them totally out of the loop?

00:30:40.000 You know, your father pledged to make America great again.

00:30:44.000 And one of the greatest periods in American history is the exceptionalism that was shown during the Apollo program.

00:30:51.000 And you know how America made that incredible breakthrough of going to the moon, as John Kennedy promised?

00:30:57.000 They did it because they collaborated in an open and public way with clever people all over the world.

00:31:04.000 And they developed the technologies and the know-how to go to the moon.

00:31:09.000 We've lost that exceptionalism because of ridiculous, bureaucratized secrecy.

00:31:14.000 And unfortunately, the national security state, it has become a swamp. 0.60

00:31:19.000 It's become a self-generating organism that's basically trying to conceal its own failures and incompetences.

00:31:25.000 It needs a broom through it. 1.00

00:31:27.000 And I'm not saying this.

00:31:29.000 I'm hearing this from people inside the military who acknowledge that the UAP cover-up is a symptom.

00:31:37.000 of this problem.

00:31:38.000 And it's absolutely intrinsic to resolving this issue that these questions get asked when the new administration comes in, because the new president has a unique opportunity.

00:31:50.000 This is probably one of the only times in history in the last 60 or 70 years when there really is a mandate from the public to get in there and ask serious questions of the people who really should be being put under oath in public and asked.

00:32:06.000 Hard questions about the truth of the claims that are being made by the men that I'm speaking to.

00:32:11.000 Because these guys have stuck their necks up.

00:32:14.000 They've risked their lives and their careers.

00:32:17.000 And at times their lives have been at risk.

00:32:19.000 I've never done a more dangerous story, I can tell you.

00:32:23.000 It's been quite hairy encountering these people.

00:32:26.000 Every time I've met them, they've been armed to the teeth, not because of me, but because of the threat that's posed to them by speaking to me and the fact that inside the program there's actually been skirmishes.

00:32:40.000 You know, there are things that have happened that have been seriously criminal that need to be brought out into the open.

00:32:47.000 Now, Don, I wouldn't be doing my job as a journalist if I didn't ask you about something I'd heard, which is that you're an experiencer yourself.

00:32:54.000 Oh, you know, not really.

00:32:56.000 I wish.

00:32:57.000 As a pilot, you definitely, you know, I've seen some stuff.

00:32:59.000 I'd spent a lot of time in the air, but I've not yet experienced the phenomenon.

00:33:04.000 You know, directly.

00:33:05.000 But I would be curious, I mean, for those who have, are we naming names, people in government that we would eventually be able to use as a list of the people that should have to testify perhaps before an oversight committee, even if that's done secretly, so that we're able to actually get to the bottom of it?

00:33:22.000 Again, because you see what we're talking about, that permanent Washington disguising it for people.

00:33:26.000 If we don't actually know the names of the people who do know, who are read in, that perhaps should or should not be, to actually be able to question them.

00:33:33.000 Do you get into all of that in your story?

00:33:35.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:33:37.000 And moreover, can I tell you, they already have the names.

00:33:41.000 This is the crazy thing about this.

00:33:44.000 The witnesses that I am talking to have given evidence to the Senate Select Committee for Intelligence, and they have given names, dates, locations, and they are prepared to hand over imagery and data.

00:33:58.000 And more importantly, all of that data has been with the Pentagon's UFO Investigation Office since a long time early last year.

00:34:06.000 And that's the outrageous thing about this, is while the public has been told there is no evidence of this, it's not true, we don't know everything, and Congress has been flat out lied to.

00:34:18.000 What's been going on behind the scenes is the most monstrous cover-up.

00:34:22.000 And what I think this betrays, Don, and I say this as somebody who absolutely loves your country, the thing I love about America is the transparency and the accountability and, more importantly, the respect for the Constitution.

00:34:34.000 Something has happened here.

00:34:36.000 What is going on is there are people in the national security state who have taken it upon themselves to conceal the expenditure of...

00:34:45.000 Billions, if not trillions of dollars on a program that the public has every right to know about.

00:34:51.000 And in the course of covering that up...

00:34:53.000 Serious crimes have allegedly been committed and all these people want, the only reason these people are coming forward, they gain absolutely nothing from it.

00:35:03.000 What they want to do is do the right thing and provide the American people with the information they think they have a right to hear.

00:35:11.000 It's absolutely unprecedented that people of this gravity Of this background, tier one military operators, guys who've worked undercover for very important intelligence agencies in the United States, are coming forward to reveal all they know.

00:35:29.000 And they are doing it because they think you've got a right to know.

00:35:33.000 And also, sir, they think the new president has a mandate to make change to do something about it.

00:35:39.000 100%.

00:35:40.000 As someone who has testified before, multiple...

00:35:44.000 I can assure you the intelligence moniker is a misnomer, but that doesn't mean they're not also nefarious.

00:35:54.000 I think there was a reason I was doing that testimony, and it wasn't because everyone was above board.

00:35:58.000 So, you know, again, none of this should surprise all of us, but it should surprise us that we can now say, fairly definitively it seems, that there's evidence of non-human intelligence out there engaging with our planet.

00:36:09.000 It's also almost so shocking.

00:36:12.000 It's hard to digest.

00:36:14.000 I mean, this would be one of the biggest questions, perhaps, of eternity.

00:36:19.000 Talk about the gravity of that for you as a journalist, for someone who's willing to take that on, who's breaking that story.

00:36:28.000 I mean, again, other than perhaps the definitive proof that there's a higher being, other life on our planet or in our universe is...

00:36:40.000 You know, that's the Holy Grail.

00:36:43.000 Don, it's the biggest story in human history.

00:36:47.000 Are we alone?

00:36:48.000 It's as simple as that.

00:36:50.000 This is the biggest story ever.

00:36:52.000 And it's funny, at the very beginning of the program, you were talking about the failures of the mainstream media.

00:36:57.000 And I've worked in the mainstream media for 35 plus years.

00:37:01.000 And one of the things I've seen is the gradual diminishing.

00:37:06.000 Of the respect that people have for the media, because media organisations have allowed themselves to be controlled.

00:37:13.000 By government.

00:37:13.000 And one of the terrible lessons in this whole UAP story, when there is a reckoning, when there is a public reckoning, is going to be the failure of the great broadsheet masthead newspapers, the big TV programs that had the opportunity to investigate this.

00:37:28.000 It was right there under their noses.

00:37:31.000 But they didn't want to lose their stories that they're being fed by the PR people for the Defence Department and different intelligence agencies.

00:37:39.000 And they didn't want to not keep their nose clean so that they...

00:37:42.000 We're continually fed those stories.

00:37:44.000 And that kind of captive journalism where journalists are controlled by PR people and by senior people and intelligence agencies in the Defence Department, it has to change because what we're seeing at the moment is a catastrophe of oversight in the United States.

00:38:03.000 Congressional representatives and senators.

00:38:06.000 Are cow-toed because of campaign funding and influence.

00:38:10.000 And the media, frankly, they're going broke.

00:38:12.000 Free-to-air media is basically going broke.

00:38:15.000 Shows like yours, Joe Rogan, Tucker, they're generating millions of viewers.

00:38:20.000 And the thing that's not being talked about is that newspapers, if they're lucky, crack 100,000 readers a day.

00:38:26.000 And why do these papers and these mastheads have the influence that they have?

00:38:31.000 Still, they shouldn't.

00:38:33.000 Because there's a transition occurring.

00:38:36.000 You know, we who operate online and, frankly, shows like News Nation, which are still supporting my kind of journalism, we're the only outlets that are doing this kind of research.

00:38:48.000 And this is the problem.

00:38:50.000 There is a travesty of oversight at the moment in America where much of the institutions that we've trusted in the past to check.

00:39:01.000 And this is why there's such a unique opportunity right now in history and why it's going to be very interesting to see what your dad does on Monday.

00:39:14.000 I'm hoping when he indicated that he talked about the drones and he said, you know, we're going to be asking some hard questions and revealing what the government knows about drones, I suspect he knows what...

00:39:25.000 I'm hearing about those drones, which is that some of them are indeed anomalous and possibly not showing the performance characteristics of normal human drones.

00:39:37.000 The big question is, where are they coming from?

00:39:40.000 Why are they there?

00:39:41.000 And what does the Defense Department know about it?

00:39:44.000 Yeah, I think your point about the media is really well-founded.

00:39:47.000 I talk about this sort of a lot on the shows.

00:39:48.000 There are those known...

00:39:50.000 There are people in legacy media that are essentially the scribes of the deep state or the Pentagon, and they're the ones that always seem to break the story about a very convenient leak, again, a selective leak designed to get us somewhere, not necessarily where we should be going, whether it's a cover, whether it's just enough to not get you all that curious or just outright lies.

00:40:13.000 There are those who are no longer journalists, but their access...

00:40:19.000 To any other kind of news is entirely contingent on them functioning as those kinds of scribes.

00:40:25.000 You better write this article or you're basically out of the loop.

00:40:28.000 It doesn't have to be true.

00:40:29.000 I saw this with Russia, Russia, Russia.

00:40:31.000 But it perpetuates the idea and the example of yet another government failure, a government that's lying to us and has been for decades.

00:40:41.000 You know, and again, I guess the question is, just how far have they collectively gone to try to cover this up, right?

00:40:49.000 You know, if it's a few people, it's one thing.

00:40:51.000 If they're actively using, you know, perhaps criminal behavior in taking this out, if they're perjuring themselves before Congress, that's a serious problem and there should be accountability.

00:41:02.000 Don, the people that are appearing on my show at 8 p.m.

00:41:07.000 Eastern Time on NewsNation on Saturday night are alleging...

00:41:11.000 Murder.

00:41:12.000 They believe people have been murdered to cover this story up.

00:41:16.000 They believe that as part of the cover-up to stop the American public from finding out about the UAP retrieval and reverse engineering program, not only has there been mass manipulation through mass media, movies, the media, the general news media, there's also been outright lies and at times threats.

00:41:37.000 People have been told they would be killed and allegedly...

00:41:41.000 People have been killed.

00:41:42.000 And one of the reasons these men are coming forward is because they became concerned that their lives were at risk.

00:41:49.000 They were involved in an investigation into data that went missing from within the program.

00:41:55.000 And in the course of their attempts to retrieve that data, they believe that there may well have been an attempt by their employer to kill them.

00:42:04.000 Yeah, and I think we've all, this is a story, well, probably as old as time, but certainly, you know, I've been party to some of this stuff.

00:42:11.000 You know, magically, all of the telephones of the people involved in Russia, Russia, Russia, all of the 38, whatever it was.

00:42:17.000 They all go missing.

00:42:18.000 Everyone magically lost their cell phone.

00:42:21.000 I don't know that I've ever lost my cell phone, Russ, but the 30 people involved, all of them magically lost their cell phones and all the text messages went away.

00:42:30.000 We saw that magically.

00:42:32.000 All of the details during the J6 investigation, it just disappeared.

00:42:37.000 It just went away.

00:42:38.000 It went up in smoke.

00:42:40.000 It seems to be yet another example of that where it's clearly a cover-up.

00:42:44.000 Oftentimes the cover-up is worse than the crime, or at least that's where the accountability comes in.

00:42:49.000 But how much further do you think they'll go to prevent this from coming out?

00:42:55.000 Well, I think we're at a tipping point right now, Don.

00:42:57.000 They know your dad's coming in, and they know he's pledged to get to the bottom of the deep state.

00:43:02.000 And I'll be honest with you, I thought the deep state was nonsense when your dad first started talking about it a few years ago.

00:43:07.000 I thought, oh, that's just paranoid nonsense.

00:43:09.000 But then even people inside the intelligence community started telling me that, yes, there really is this cabal of people who take it upon themselves with extraordinary arrogance to dictate that the president...

00:43:23.000 You know how they talk about the president?

00:43:25.000 They describe the president as a temporary employee.

00:43:29.000 That's how they see the world.

00:43:31.000 They think they control the national security state.

00:43:34.000 And as you would know, as your dad would know, as people who understand the Constitution would know, the president is the commander-in-chief.

00:43:43.000 The president has the right to know about everything.

00:43:47.000 He has a security clearance above everything else, and he can declassify everything.

00:43:53.000 Instantaneously.

00:43:54.000 If your dad wanted to, he could walk into office on Monday and mandate that this program be revealed.

00:44:01.000 Now, I think there are a lot of people I can tell you inside the program who think it's time this was done, who think it's time the public was not lied to anymore and the truth was told.

00:44:12.000 Because we really are at a tipping point.

00:44:15.000 If it's true, and I believe it is, that there are technologies that are being studied and explored that would revolutionise power, that would revolutionise propulsion systems, is it a good thing that we're trying, and frustratingly apparently, to reproduce them for the purposes of military advantage, when this could be of benefit for the whole country?

00:44:38.000 The whole world could benefit from these discoveries.

00:44:41.000 These scientific discoveries could be a paradigm change for the human race.

00:44:46.000 And what's happening is, apparently, there are people who've taken it upon themselves to make the decision that this needs to be kept secret in order to give America a military advantage.

00:44:57.000 But Don, they've had 70 years to do this.

00:45:01.000 They haven't shown any sign of this breakthrough yet.

00:45:05.000 And the scientists that I'm talking to who are telling me they will come forward, they will testify if they're given the chance, they just need that assurance.

00:45:15.000 They need somebody to show the spine that they can be reassured and come forward with the evidence they've got.

00:45:22.000 They will tell you, they will tell the Congress and they will tell the American people that this research is being frustrated by this ridiculous secrecy.

00:45:31.000 And right now, Don...

00:45:32.000 The Chinese and the Russians are secretly working on their own recovered non-human technology. 0.90

00:45:39.000 This is an open secret between the foreign adversary powers.

00:45:43.000 Nobody wants to admit it publicly because nobody wants to show their hand to reveal how far advanced they are.

00:45:50.000 But I would argue that there's nothing stopping the president from coming forward and saying, yes, it's true.

00:45:57.000 We are not alone, but there are certain things we're not going to tell you, just like nuclear bombs.

00:46:03.000 We're not going to tell you how to make a nuclear bomb.

00:46:05.000 You've got no right to know that.

00:46:07.000 But the public should have the right to know that the American government is secretly working on retrieved non-human technology.

00:46:14.000 It's an absolute scandal that this has been kept from the public for 60, 70, 80 years.

00:46:21.000 and good men like David Grush came forward and gave evidence about this to me with News Nation in 2023 when he went public and exposed all he knew.

00:46:31.000 And you know what they did to him?

00:46:33.000 They took away his security clearance and they did that to try and shut him up.

00:46:38.000 And they then ran a disinformation operation about his PTSD and tried to suggest that he was mentally unstable.

00:46:44.000 And you know what's happened to investigate any of his allegations?

00:46:48.000 that he loyally and patriotically came forward to give evidence about?

00:46:52.000 Sweet FA. Almost nothing.

00:46:55.000 And that's the disgrace here, is that your Congress has allowed itself to be manipulated.

00:47:02.000 The people who should be doing the oversight, the politicians, they've lost their spines. 0.97

00:47:08.000 They are a bunch of jellybacks. 1.00

00:47:10.000 There was a time in history when monstrous crimes were committed inside government, and these were exposed by...

00:47:17.000 By politicians who had a patriotic recognition of the duty they owed to the American people.

00:47:23.000 Now they're a bunch of spineless jellybacks. 0.99

00:47:26.000 They're absolutely weak.

00:47:28.000 And at the same time, as you pointed out, we have access journalism, where journalists have forgotten how to do investigative journalism.

00:47:35.000 And all they do is go to their tame little PR people to be given access to the stories that they're allowed to tell.

00:47:43.000 And sure enough, when the Pentagon's UAP office last year came out with a supposed investigation that explained that there was no evidence of extraterrestrial engagement with this planet, A certain masthead newspaper gleefully reported Pentagon finds no evidence of UAPs or aliens.

00:48:03.000 And it's just the same tired line all the time.

00:48:07.000 And I don't know if Americans are buying it anymore because I get thousands of people contacting me every week who are angry that this is being kept from them.

00:48:17.000 And when I do my stories on NewsNation, we get millions of viewers because people are...

00:48:24.000 Angry that this is being kept out of the mainstream media.

00:48:27.000 And what's happening, and this is why shows like yours are exciting, it's like the mainstream media is making itself irrelevant.

00:48:35.000 And if it doesn't engage with this issue and cover this issue, we're just going to walk on by.

00:48:41.000 And that's what Jake and his team reveal in the story that we're doing this weekend at 8pm on Eastern Time on NewsNation.

00:48:49.000 We are basically...

00:48:51.000 Reporting that they are now going to do private crash retrievals.

00:48:57.000 They are going to do what the military is covering up.

00:49:01.000 And there's a new company called Skywatcher, which is going to come forward publicly, and it's going to reveal that it can do retrievals, and it's being funded by private equity.

00:49:13.000 And good people from the private industry, people with that same free enterprise initiative that you talked about earlier, they're going to do what the government is failing to do.

00:49:22.000 They're going to tell the public the truth.

00:49:24.000 They're going to come forward and reveal this program.

00:49:27.000 And they're going to leave the military and the defense national security complex behind because they've failed.

00:49:34.000 They've failed to reverse engineer a lot of this technology. 0.89

00:49:37.000 And the reason why is because this stupid bureaucratic secrecy has Well, I mean, that's pretty amazing. 0.86

00:49:50.000 So we mentioned, obviously, we have a new administration coming into power in five days. 0.96

00:49:54.000 What would you love, ideally, for that new administration to address as it relates to these findings?

00:50:01.000 What are the things they do need to acknowledge and get out there?

00:50:04.000 What are some of the things they may want or need to keep secret?

00:50:07.000 And where do you expect the story to go from there?

00:50:10.000 Well, you know, Don, it's funny, as a journalist, I would rarely do this.

00:50:14.000 But one of the things that was recommended by Chuck Schumer in the previous administration, or the current administration, was a really laudable idea that was actually backed by both sides of the House.

00:50:24.000 And it was the idea of a presidential records review panel that looks at all of the UAP information that's held secretly within the government and makes a decision about declassification.

00:50:37.000 Because the worst thing that could happen...

00:50:39.000 Is catastrophic disclosure.

00:50:41.000 I know that there are things that the public shouldn't know.

00:50:45.000 I mean, I'm aware of operations that are going on involving reverse engineering that I genuinely do accept shouldn't be made public.

00:50:54.000 But there are other things that I think should be made public.

00:50:57.000 And I think what's happened is the secrecy has been used as an excuse.

00:51:01.000 I had a conversation recently with somebody who has a lot of gold braid on their shoulder.

00:51:06.000 And I said to them, sir, is there any good reason why the public can't know that there is a non-human intelligence engaging with this planet?

00:51:15.000 And he laughed at me and he said, Ross, go for it.

00:51:19.000 And he encouraged me to do this story.

00:51:21.000 And I said to him, if there's a good reason why I shouldn't run this story, please tell me.

00:51:26.000 And that's exactly what my friend, the whistleblower, Jake, has done.

00:51:30.000 He's done entirely the proper thing.

00:51:32.000 These guys are patriots.

00:51:34.000 They've gone to the Pentagon.

00:51:35.000 They've told the Pentagon what they knew.

00:51:38.000 And you know what the Pentagon did?

00:51:39.000 It covered it up.

00:51:40.000 That's what they did.

00:51:41.000 They lied to you.

00:51:43.000 They lied to you, to the American public and to the Congress.

00:51:46.000 And worst of all, Don, they've lied to presidents.

00:51:50.000 And I think that's just unforgivable.

00:51:52.000 The thing that I would recommend is that there should be a reckoning.

00:51:56.000 This has to be done in public.

00:51:58.000 There has to be transparency.

00:52:00.000 The public has to see accountability.

00:52:03.000 If you're looking for the deep state, if you're hunting for the bad guys who've done entirely the wrong thing and committed crimes and overspent the public's money, this is where you need to look.

00:52:14.000 And I'm not saying this.

00:52:16.000 The people I'm talking to in the program who so desperately want to testify, they're the people saying this.

00:52:23.000 They want you...

00:52:24.000 And your dad to scream from the rooftops about this and get answers.

00:52:29.000 And I'm sure Lou, who's coming on later, is going to second this.

00:52:32.000 And I'm sure David Grush, who spoke to me on NewsNation in 2023 and went public with his concerns, he's genuinely concerned that the attempts that he's made to get this heard inside government are being ignored.

00:52:47.000 And it's basically because of the power of the defence aerospace and the national security establishment.

00:52:53.000 President Eisenhower once warned that there was a danger in the military-industrial complex.

00:52:59.000 And the irony, Don, is that it was probably President Eisenhower who was responsible for instituting the legal basis for the cover-up in the first place.

00:53:08.000 And what he failed to realise was that the monster he would create would keep this secret for another 80 years.

00:53:16.000 It's just incredible that this has been kept secret for as long as it has.

00:53:20.000 And it really is time that it was brought out.

00:53:23.000 And the only way that I can see it being done is in a measured way with this presidential records review panel.

00:53:29.000 But more importantly, if I was your dad, I would be summoning Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick, the former director of Arrow, putting him in front of a blooming judge and deposing him and demanding that he tell the truth about what he was told by my whistleblowers.

00:53:45.000 Because I know the Pentagon has been lying.

00:53:50.000 And I don't know why they're lying.

00:53:52.000 I don't know what pretext they're lying on.

00:53:54.000 I don't know what flimsy national security excuse they're using, but this time they've gone way too far.

00:54:01.000 And moreover, protections have been taken.

00:54:04.000 If the aerospace company that hired these men tries to hide its involvement, they'd better be careful.

00:54:12.000 So you're doing a multi-part series for News Nation on all of this.

00:54:18.000 Where can people go?

00:54:20.000 To learn more.

00:54:21.000 Is there anything else you can tell us?

00:54:23.000 Or we're going to have to stay tuned and watch this weekend.

00:54:26.000 We'll be doing a full investigation on NewsNation at 8pm Eastern Time on Saturday night.

00:54:33.000 That'll be the main story.

00:54:34.000 You can watch my Reality Check show on YouTube.

00:54:38.000 That's Ross Coulthard Reality Check, which is a NewsNation channel.

00:54:42.000 And we will eventually be airing the full interviews with all of these whistleblowers for the public to see.

00:54:49.000 And you will see ongoing stories covering this issue.

00:54:53.000 There are so many angles and And one of the things I'm incredibly grateful for is there is at least one news organization that's still covering this story, despite all the others, and that's News Nation.

00:55:07.000 They've stuck their neck up to back quality investigative journalism, and I thank them for it.

00:55:12.000 Well, Ross Coldhart, thank you so much.

00:55:14.000 Guys, make sure to check out more of Ross's UFO work on News Nation this Saturday.

00:55:19.000 8 p.m.

00:55:20.000 Eastern.

00:55:21.000 We really appreciate your time.

00:55:22.000 And as this breaks, I'm sure we'll be talking again in the not-too-distant future.

00:55:26.000 Thank you, Ross.

00:55:27.000 My pleasure, John.

00:55:28.000 Good to talk to you.

00:55:29.000 And have a word with the old man for me, please.

00:55:31.000 I'm definitely going to do that.

00:55:32.000 Like I said, you know that I'm interested.

00:55:34.000 If I had one question, that was the one I wanted to know.

00:55:37.000 So maybe we'll finally get to the bottom of it.

00:55:39.000 Well, do me a favor.

00:55:41.000 Get the answers for us.

00:55:42.000 We all want to know.

00:55:43.000 I'm working on it.

00:55:44.000 Working on it.

00:55:44.000 Promise.

00:55:45.000 Thank you, Ross.

00:55:47.000 Guys, coming up, we're going to get more reaction for UAP expert and formal special intel agent, Lou Elizondo.

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00:56:57.000 And now, for more reaction to our top story, UAP expert, former counterintel agent for the Pentagon, Lou Elizondo, is back with us.

00:57:07.000 Lou, how you doing, buddy?

00:57:09.000 Don, thank you so much for having me.

00:57:11.000 You know, the old military saying, when you get my age, every day above ground is a good day.

00:57:16.000 I'm not too far behind you, man.

00:57:18.000 Maybe it just feels that way, but these last few years in politics have definitely aged me about a solid century, so I get it.

00:57:25.000 But, Lou, I'd love to get your reaction to this new investigation.

00:57:29.000 Obviously, you've been on the show a couple times.

00:57:30.000 We've spoken about this.

00:57:32.000 I know you've been looking into this stuff as part of your life's work in government and out.

00:57:38.000 How do you digest all of that in the context of your work?

00:57:43.000 Well, that's a great question, Don.

00:57:45.000 It's a living contradiction, isn't it?

00:57:47.000 A good portion of my career, almost 10 years, for the Pentagon and the intelligence community investigating UAP or the vernacular UFOs with your taxpayer money, only for the government to come out and pretend like, oh, we weren't doing any of that, right?

00:58:01.000 Until finally they were caught red-handed and they had to tell the truth at least a little bit to what they could about the reality of the investigation that we were leading.

00:58:10.000 I would like to say that Ross Coulthart, as an investigative journalist, a lot of people don't know this.

00:58:16.000 He is not only a fantastic investigative journalist, he's also an attorney.

00:58:21.000 So he looks at things a little bit more discerning than I guess maybe a lot of folks in the media does.

00:58:27.000 And he also makes sure that every piece of information that he has is backed up by tangible information.

00:58:34.000 And from what I've known about this, I've been following this for about a year and a half.

00:58:39.000 Ross has kept this under wraps and needed some help from others in the special operations community, I'll say.

00:58:46.000 For personal protection purposes for some of these individuals who were brave enough to come out and have their story told to the American people.

00:58:53.000 But it was getting really dicey there for a while.

00:58:55.000 So I've been following this topic.

00:58:57.000 And exactly what you said and what Ross said, a tier one operator, think about that.

00:59:03.000 We're talking America's finest, the best of the best, tip of the spear.

00:59:08.000 Think of Delta Force.

00:59:09.000 Think of that type of caliber of individual that when all else fails...

00:59:14.000 They get sent to do a mission, right?

00:59:16.000 They come with a warning, right?

00:59:18.000 Only break glass in case of an emergency.

00:59:20.000 So when you have a Tier 1 operator and their colleagues coming out and telling the American people, yes, I was part of a UAP program, a crash retrieval program, and here is what we did.

00:59:32.000 And by the way, here's some of the bad things that occurred as well.

00:59:36.000 I think America needs to listen.

00:59:38.000 These are individuals that take polygraphs.

00:59:40.000 They have psychological evaluations.

00:59:42.000 On a regular and routine basis.

00:59:45.000 And, you know, they are America's finest.

00:59:50.000 I'm frustrated because you talk about my life's work here.

00:59:55.000 For example, Congress just had an opportunity to create a UAP subcommittee.

01:00:00.000 And one would think with all the nonsense going on with drones and Chinese balloons and UAP, that at least Congress would be able to stand up a subcommittee, not even a committee, a subcommittee.

01:00:10.000 On what the heck's going on in our skies, and they couldn't even do that, right?

01:00:15.000 Meanwhile, you have people like Tim Burchette and Burleson and Nancy Mace and Anna Polina doing their very best to try to get the truth out to the American people, and yet they're being stymied internally by what?

01:00:28.000 By bureaucracy and politics.

01:00:30.000 And so it's very, very frustrating to see, but I am also very, very optimistic that this story that's coming out is going to change the landscape.

01:00:42.000 So I also know you're putting together some critical recommendations as our nation continues to grapple with these findings.

01:00:48.000 Specifically, how does this all relate to specific policy goals, and especially our policy towards drones and other types of aircraft?

01:00:57.000 Yeah, fantastic question.

01:00:59.000 Look, here's the bottom line.

01:01:00.000 After 9-11...

01:01:01.000 You would have thought we have learned our lesson, especially with what we call U.S. Aero Domain Awareness.

01:01:07.000 What is going on in our skies?

01:01:09.000 And so for 20 years, we've been telling American people nothing to see here, folks.

01:01:13.000 We're safe.

01:01:14.000 We know everything in our sky.

01:01:15.000 The truth is that is absolutely opposite of what's actually going on.

01:01:21.000 We don't have a clue what is in our skies.

01:01:23.000 As highlighted, which you've highlighted before, Chinese spy balloons just wafting, you know, completely unchallenged.

01:01:30.000 Over our North American airspace.

01:01:32.000 Drones in New Jersey, New York, Maryland, Virginia, Florida, California, Oregon, right?

01:01:37.000 Same issues that we're seeing overseas with some of our joint bases, like in the UK, where they're having drone issues, right?

01:01:44.000 Call them drones, call them whatever you want.

01:01:46.000 Bottom line is, the administration's response to that is, well, they're not ours, they're not enemies, we don't know whose they are, but nothing to worry about here, folks.

01:01:53.000 Let's just go ahead and turn the page and they're all being flown lawfully.

01:01:56.000 You do not shut down military airspace.

01:02:00.000 Because someone is flying a drone lawfully over your airspace, over your airbase.

01:02:04.000 So we've got a problem, and I think Ross is absolutely right.

01:02:08.000 You, people like yourself, people like your father, who want answers, understand how the bureaucracy works.

01:02:14.000 We need to have some concrete recommendations that someone like your father and his staff, by the way, great cabinet picks.

01:02:24.000 Have the ability to do something with.

01:02:26.000 So we have been making recommendations, for example, a national strategy on what we're calling emerging technologies in our airspace, multi-domain, right?

01:02:36.000 So whether it's a drone or it's a new type of reconnaissance aircraft or it's a UAP, someone needs to be able to tell your dad if he asks a question and give him an answer in five minutes, not five hours, not five days, not five weeks or five months.

01:02:51.000 Immediately.

01:02:52.000 So another recommendation is to have some sort of, I know it's a bad word, but kind of like we have a border czar and a drug czar.

01:02:59.000 Have an air domain czar that can work with the DNI, Director of National Intelligence, work with NIM Aviation, the National Intelligence Manager for Aviation, work with the FAA, work with the Pentagon, work with Arrow, and be able to give your dad the information that he needs when he needs it.

01:03:18.000 It's really not that tough.

01:03:20.000 A couple executive orders.

01:03:21.000 I think your father had stated that his first day in office, he plans to maybe send out quite a few executive orders.

01:03:29.000 I think it's a great idea.

01:03:30.000 I mean, hallelujah.

01:03:31.000 What a fantastic idea.

01:03:33.000 There's four draft executive orders right now that are kind of floating around the zeitgeist that talk about whistleblower protections, right?

01:03:40.000 That talk about creating a single belly button, a flow of information, creating a whole of government approach, bringing the scientific and academic communities into this conversation.

01:03:50.000 And then also be able to give people like your father and his cabinet oversight of what actually is going on, who is spending money on what activities as they relate to UAP. Look, this story is going to be a big story.

01:04:04.000 I happen to know already some of the things that are going to be discussed.

01:04:08.000 And I got to tell you, people better buckle up because it's going to be a wild ride.

01:04:13.000 You ask me personally, Don, I'll tell you, I think America can handle the truth.

01:04:16.000 I think America deserves the truth.

01:04:18.000 That's the reason why I left the Pentagon in 2017 out of protest, even back then, because I thought, I think America deserves the truth.

01:04:26.000 So how many of these issues, Lou, are ones of national security?

01:04:30.000 And what do you think that line is between the need for government transparency and secrecy?

01:04:36.000 I mean, we talked about that a little bit with Ross.

01:04:39.000 I mean, I could definitely see certain things we wouldn't want there to be out there, especially if we have...

01:04:44.000 You know, information that could lead to, you know, whether it's military dominance or, you know, more effective propulsion units.

01:04:51.000 But should there be a push to make some of these cover-up programs a little bit more public?

01:04:58.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:04:59.000 Look, and I've always said for the record, if I ever have to choose between national security and serving my country and disclosure, I'll always choose national security.

01:05:06.000 If it's legitimate national security.

01:05:08.000 What I don't agree with is obfuscation and calling something classified simply because you're embarrassed or because you're trying to cover malfeasance.

01:05:15.000 And that is what we're dealing with with this topic.

01:05:18.000 Because for decades, money has been siphoned off without letting Congress know, without letting the president know, and making decisions unilaterally on behalf of somebody like, i.e., the president.

01:05:30.000 And you're talking about a middle manager who does not have that authority.

01:05:34.000 I think there are reasons to keep things classified.

01:05:37.000 As Ross said, look, it's not a classified fact that we have nuclear weapons and that North Korea has atomic and nuclear capabilities.

01:05:47.000 Now, how those things actually work, we're going to keep classified.

01:05:50.000 If you want to protect sources and methods or certain capabilities to field the technology, yes, I would never want that information being provided to a foreign adversary.

01:06:00.000 The problem is, Don, I think we're already behind the eight ball.

01:06:04.000 Because as already mentioned, our adversaries are already investing into this topic and are already doing research and they have no problem spending money doing it and being open and honest with their own individuals.

01:06:16.000 Meanwhile, here in our country, we have this weird show game where we're pretending to ourselves that we're not doing anything, which is complete opposite because I and my colleagues were doing something back in the Pentagon and there was programs before that and there were programs after that.

01:06:32.000 Well, under Biden, we've seen obviously really a lack of urgency in even telling us what these mysterious drones in the sky were.

01:06:39.000 It seems like, I don't know, I have a hard time buying that our intelligence agencies don't know what it actually is or where they're actually coming from.

01:06:48.000 We talked about that last time you were on a few weeks ago.

01:06:51.000 But then that story just magically fell out of the headlines.

01:06:54.000 Do you anticipate more examples of these mysterious aircrafts?

01:06:57.000 And how should we handle that?

01:06:59.000 Yeah, Don, it's coming.

01:07:01.000 If you don't want to see them, don't look into the sky.

01:07:04.000 But yes, this conversation is going to continue to happen because more and more incidents are occurring.

01:07:11.000 And if you asked me a year ago, are people just more sensitive to the fact that maybe UAP exists or is there an increase in UAP incidents?

01:07:21.000 I was on the fence.

01:07:22.000 I didn't know if we had enough data back then to suggest one way or the other.

01:07:26.000 But I think now looking back, I think we can say definitively.

01:07:29.000 These things are becoming a lot more bold.

01:07:31.000 In some cases, they're stocking our Navy vessels and Coast Guard vessels that are out doing national security missions on our behalf.

01:07:40.000 They're stocking our aircraft.

01:07:42.000 They're interfering with our nuclear capabilities and equities, and they seem very interested in our sensitive military installations.

01:07:49.000 Now, if that's not a national security issue, Don, I don't know what is.

01:07:53.000 At that point, might as well just throw in the towel and we all just go ahead and give up and walk away from this great experiment.

01:07:59.000 Which I don't think anybody would agree that's the right move.

01:08:02.000 I think the right move is to enable the system to do the job that it was intended to do.

01:08:08.000 We should not have people circumventing the process between Congress and the President.

01:08:14.000 And I think this new President deserves to have all the tools and resources available to him.

01:08:20.000 I mean, how big of a deal is it to create a UAP subcommittee in Congress?

01:08:25.000 It's a pretty easy lift.

01:08:27.000 We have it for... 0.91

01:08:28.000 Things out there that are, frankly, probably quite ridiculous.

01:08:31.000 And yet, for something as important as this, we've already had our intelligence community come out and say, yes, UAP are real.

01:08:37.000 We may not know exactly what they are, but they're real.

01:08:39.000 How can we neglect that?

01:08:41.000 What are we missing as Americans?

01:08:43.000 Why are we not standing up and writing our elected officials and standing up on the table and banging our fists and saying, no more?

01:08:50.000 We've got to level with the American people.

01:08:53.000 We've got to be honest.

01:08:54.000 And at a minimum, you've got to tell Congress and you've got to tell the President of the United States.

01:08:58.000 And if not, you're wrong.

01:09:01.000 There's no way around it.

01:09:03.000 So talk about this for you personally.

01:09:05.000 I mean, this is your career's work.

01:09:07.000 You've dedicated countless decades to it.

01:09:09.000 How do you digest all of these new developments?

01:09:15.000 Well, I've been sensitized for a long time.

01:09:17.000 Look, I was never a believer in the UAP topic at all.

01:09:19.000 I came into this program chasing back.

01:09:22.000 My background was counterterrorism and counterespionage and counterinsurgency, counternarcotics.

01:09:28.000 My background is science.

01:09:29.000 I went to school, University of Miami, studied microbiology and immunology.

01:09:32.000 So I was never a science fiction kid.

01:09:35.000 I tell people I was more of a G.I. Joe kind of kid than I was a Star Wars kid.

01:09:39.000 But once you are exposed to the program...

01:09:42.000 Like I was and others and my colleagues, there's no getting around the obvious.

01:09:47.000 Look, you have objects there that are outperforming anything that we have in our inventory and have been doing it for decades.

01:09:53.000 And if it's not ours, it's not a blue force capability, and it's not a red force capability, meaning adversarial, then it's somebody's.

01:10:02.000 Whose is it, right?

01:10:03.000 Where is it coming in from?

01:10:04.000 How is it being able to operate in a way that there's not a darn thing we can do about it?

01:10:08.000 Right?

01:10:08.000 And so, historically, our response is, well, we just won't talk about it.

01:10:13.000 We don't want to frighten the American people that there's something out there that we can't control, that we don't know what it's doing.

01:10:21.000 And I understand that, but I think we are, look, here's the bottom line, and I don't know how to say this more simply.

01:10:27.000 Your dad's going to go down in history as being the one who actually brought truth and transparency to this topic?

01:10:35.000 Or they're going to go ahead and stonewall him, and it'll be another president, and somebody will come back and say, ah, you know, Trump really had a chance here.

01:10:43.000 And I think that's a disservice.

01:10:45.000 I think we need to give our presidents, it doesn't matter what type side of the aisle they're from politically, we need to give them the very best capability to succeed, because ultimately they represent the will of the American people.

01:11:00.000 And I think people forgot about that.

01:11:02.000 They're so interested in throwing stones at one political party or the other, they forget that we're supposed to all be on the same team.

01:11:09.000 And, you know, whether you're liberal or you're conservative or anything in the middle, we need to enable our leaders in this country to make well-informed decisions because that impacts all of us.

01:11:19.000 That's not a hey you, that impacts you.

01:11:22.000 That affects me, that affects you, everybody in your audience.

01:11:25.000 So I think we have a moral obligation to set this president up.

01:11:29.000 For success and tell him the truth and give him all the information that he deserves so he can make an informed decision.

01:11:36.000 So Congress can make an informed decision and our government can actually work for once.

01:11:41.000 Well, Lou, I appreciate it, man.

01:11:42.000 Great talking to you again.

01:11:44.000 Really interesting.

01:11:45.000 Looking forward to seeing that all this weekend.

01:11:47.000 I may be a little bit busy, so I'm going to have to TiVo it.

01:11:50.000 I'm sure you are.

01:11:51.000 Even though it's online, I'm going to have to TiVo it and check it out a little bit later.

01:11:55.000 But basically, come Monday after about 1 o'clock, I should probably free up and have time to check it all out.

01:12:01.000 So I'm sure we'll be talking soon.

01:12:03.000 Really appreciate you, as always.

01:12:04.000 Thanks for being here.

01:12:05.000 Always my honor and privilege.

01:12:07.000 Thank you, sir.

01:12:07.000 And thank you to your amazing audience.

01:12:09.000 Thank you so much.

01:12:10.000 Thank you, buddy.

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01:13:05.000 Guys, before we wrap up, I've got to cover the amazing news out of the Middle East today.

01:13:11.000 My father brokered a ceasefire between Hamas and Israel, and the hostages are getting released.

01:13:19.000 Promises made, promises kept.

01:13:22.000 I'm sure Biden, you know, I guess he's theoretically still president, even though it seems like the second election day got done.

01:13:29.000 People like Hamas and others started saying, you know what, maybe we got to talk about this.

01:13:33.000 And then last week you saw my father basically said, all hell is going to break loose if they don't release the hostages.

01:13:40.000 Now that happened.

01:13:41.000 Again, I'm sure the Biden administration is going to do a victory lap, but we all know how this happened and how this started.

01:13:48.000 This is the Trump effect in action.

01:13:50.000 And the Biden State Department and the spokespeople even admitted it today.

01:13:56.000 Pretty amazing.

01:13:57.000 When it comes to the involvement of President-elect Trump's team, it has been absolutely critical in getting this deal over the line.

01:14:04.000 And it's been...

01:14:05.000 Wow, I didn't expect that.

01:14:07.000 But we've all been watching.

01:14:09.000 We've all seen it.

01:14:11.000 Daddy's home, and the world is responding.

01:14:14.000 My father isn't even in office yet, and he's already delivering for you, the incredible people of this country.

01:14:21.000 This is what you were told would happen during the campaign, and it's coming true.

01:14:26.000 The winning has just begun, and I imagine none of us are sick of it yet because we've got to do a lot of winning to overcome these last four years.

01:14:35.000 These next four years, however, are going to be truly incredible.

01:14:39.000 It's an opportunity like we've never seen before.

01:14:42.000 Joe Biden is in complete denial.

01:14:44.000 He tried to claim today that it's a joke to say this deal was created by the new administration.

01:14:50.000 The doubt the hostages and the family...

01:14:55.000 I doubt that they think it's a joke, folks.

01:14:57.000 I just don't think there's any doubt there.

01:14:59.000 I think they understand exactly how this happened because everyone knows that real leadership, real resolve, real strength is coming back to the White House in five days.

01:15:11.000 And meanwhile, guys, Pete Hegseth, our appointee, absolutely, absolutely dominated his hearing yesterday.

01:15:26.000 Remember, Joni Ernst came out against him very hard, and all of you guys, perhaps with the help of people like myself, went after her a little bit.

01:15:35.000 Now, she had a change of heart and a change of tune and came out after the hearing and said that she will now be voting for him.

01:15:45.000 And so he was adequately able to answer all of my questions.

01:15:49.000 He pointed out the woke issues at the Pentagon.

01:15:53.000 And I think we're at a point where now we can start moving forward.

01:15:58.000 People know where he stands on these issues.

01:16:01.000 So I felt it was a good hearing.

01:16:04.000 I thought it was a good hearing for him.

01:16:05.000 Does he have your vote?

01:16:07.000 I am breaking news, Simon.

01:16:10.000 I figured you would ask this.

01:16:13.000 So, yes, I will be supporting President Trump's pick for Secretary of Defense, Pete Hegseth.

01:16:20.000 There you go.

01:16:21.000 I think that's incredible.

01:16:22.000 If you look at some of the memes that were out there, they were equally incredible.

01:16:25.000 You actually saw the cat meme in action. 0.83

01:16:28.000 Some of the memes of Pete just sort of sitting there while some ranting, lunatic Democrats tried to do their thing.

01:16:37.000 He just remained calm, collected, and absolutely crushed it.

01:16:41.000 Pete's a great friend, but he's also a great warfighter.

01:16:43.000 He's a great American.

01:16:45.000 He's going to do an awesome job in there.

01:16:46.000 And most importantly, I think he has the confidence.

01:16:50.000 Of the door kickers.

01:16:51.000 Of the guys on the ground.

01:16:52.000 Of those actual war fighters.

01:16:54.000 Not the bureaucracy.

01:16:55.000 Of the war fighters.

01:16:57.000 And that's what we need to actually start winning wars.

01:16:59.000 That's what we need to solve the disastrous recruitment program because someone doesn't want to necessarily report to a trans admiral. 0.89

01:17:05.000 So, big deal.

01:17:07.000 An awesome start to this confirmation process.

01:17:10.000 And in case you missed it, here is absolutely embarrassing.

01:17:17.000 It's nuts. 0.81

01:17:18.000 Elizabeth Warren.

01:17:19.000 During the hearing, you're going to like this one.

01:17:22.000 In your words, you're quite sure that every general who serves should not go directly into the defense industry for 10 years?

01:17:33.000 You're not willing to make that same pledge?

01:17:36.000 I'm not a general, Senator.

01:17:40.000 You'll be the one, let us just be clear, in charge of the generals.

01:17:46.000 So, yeah, as we've discussed, that's a big one, right?

01:17:48.000 We don't want these generals going in, being generals, and then going out and working for Boeing and Raytheon because it kind of, let's just say, creates a very big disincentive for them to complain about faulty programs.

01:18:00.000 It creates a huge disincentive for them actually maybe, I don't know, negotiating on the price of these trillion-dollar contracts for fighters and missiles and whatever it may be.

01:18:08.000 So, yeah, we don't want those people to then go profiteer off of their exit ramp. 0.74

01:18:16.000 Lastly, we now have pictures of Karen Bass at a cocktail party in Ghana as Los Angeles went up in flames.

01:18:27.000 She wasn't getting emergency declarations approved.

01:18:30.000 She wasn't securing additional resources.

01:18:33.000 She was at a party in another country as the fires were worsening and her city was burning to the ground.

01:18:41.000 People lost their homes.

01:18:43.000 Their lives, their loved ones, many lost everything.

01:18:47.000 There is no good explanation for this.

01:18:49.000 Five days before this cocktail party, Bass was warned of the extreme fire conditions.

01:18:57.000 You'd think if you were warned about those things, maybe it's your job as a leader to actually then deal with it.

01:19:03.000 Why was she in Ghana?

01:19:05.000 It's just another example of why leadership matters.

01:19:08.000 And most times...

01:19:10.000 And when so-called leaders are absent, residents back home suffer the most.

01:19:17.000 Guys, I'll go into the live chat for a few minutes.

01:19:22.000 I only got a couple minutes left.

01:19:23.000 It's going to be a crazy week, so maybe if you throw up some good questions, I'll get to them.

01:19:28.000 If it's a lot of trolling, I probably won't, and I'll just go to dinner.

01:19:31.000 But let's get into a couple of those, guys, and we will see what you come up with.

01:19:37.000 It's totally up to you.

01:19:38.000 We could be here for a while or we could be out of here pretty quickly.

01:19:43.000 This is the only time I've ever had a problem rewinding this stream.

01:19:47.000 You want rewind privileges?

01:19:49.000 Well, I don't know if we can do that live.

01:19:52.000 That's probably more of a rumble question.

01:19:54.000 Obviously, you could go back and listen to all of these things shortly after we're done and it's sort of fully uploaded and it'll then stay in my sort of account feed.

01:20:01.000 So you'll be able to check it out that way.

01:20:06.000 Maybe we can do something about that, but we'll try to...

01:20:10.000 Okay, so the best, Christina, I rewind live.

01:20:13.000 So it seems like it's able to be done.

01:20:14.000 Maybe one of your settings is off, but if you missed some of it, definitely go check it out.

01:20:20.000 Start from the beginning.

01:20:21.000 If you can't rewind now while we're live, you should be able to do it, but it seems like others are able to do it.

01:20:25.000 So perhaps it's in your settings how we're doing it.

01:20:28.000 So Gavin Newsom2028, what are your thoughts, Don?

01:20:34.000 There are still people that are going to vote for these incompetents.

01:20:38.000 He's out there blaming Trump somehow.

01:20:39.000 Trump hasn't been in power in four years.

01:20:42.000 In 2018, he was in California the last time they had a disastrous fire.

01:20:45.000 He warned about these things.

01:20:47.000 He told specifically of the things that they were not doing as it relates to water.

01:20:50.000 They were not doing as it relates to the foliage that went up in smoke.

01:20:56.000 They had the warning days before.

01:20:58.000 Again, Trump's not even in power yet, but he did call all of these things.

01:21:01.000 He spoke on it in Rogan.

01:21:02.000 So that's the problem.

01:21:04.000 You can be right.

01:21:05.000 You can be proven to be right.

01:21:07.000 The left will still say it's climate change.

01:21:09.000 Just so we're clear, I think I read the stat.

01:21:11.000 You know, the climate has moved up on average in the last 75 years since they got accurate predictions by 0.2 degrees.

01:21:18.000 0.2.

01:21:18.000 Just 0.2 degrees.

01:21:20.000 Not 2 degrees.

01:21:21.000 I don't even think that would matter much.

01:21:23.000 But 0.2 degrees. 1.00

01:21:24.000 It has nothing to do with climate change, morons. 1.00

01:21:27.000 It has nothing to do with Trump. 1.00

01:21:29.000 It has to do with you guys knowing these things and being incapable of doing it.

01:21:34.000 It also then has to do with failed leadership, disastrous responses, because people are too concerned about pushing their woke ideology, whether it's DEI hires and so on and so forth.

01:21:46.000 I think everyone finally gets that now.

01:21:48.000 It's unfortunate it takes this kind of disaster to actually get to that point, but perhaps, perhaps one day...

01:21:58.000 People will wake up.

01:22:00.000 Where is President Trump getting inaugurated?

01:22:03.000 Are people speculating it will be other places now?

01:22:05.000 He's going to get inaugurated on the Capitol.

01:22:07.000 That's going to be swearing-ins at noon on Monday, the 20th of January.

01:22:14.000 That's going to be a huge day for so many Americans who finally have hope that their country may have another chance at survival.

01:22:22.000 There are so many people that have come up to me, incredible small business owners, some big business owners.

01:22:27.000 They're now investing.

01:22:29.000 They're taking those chances.

01:22:30.000 They're becoming entrepreneurs.

01:22:32.000 People believe they have a chance again, guys.

01:22:35.000 So I'm super excited about that.

01:22:37.000 Very excited about that potential.

01:22:42.000 And, you know, just really looking forward to Monday, looking forward to some of those immediate executive orders, looking forward to hopefully getting, you know, finalizing peace in the Middle East and then going on to Ukraine and, you know, getting there eventually.

01:22:54.000 These are complex and long things, but if there's someone that can actually do it, it's going to be my father.

01:22:59.000 Now, you'll see the games that the media will play.

01:23:02.000 The Ukraine one, I already see that one coming, right? 1.00

01:23:05.000 We have been led to believe by the mainstream media for the last three years and change, That Ukraine is winning.

01:23:13.000 Now, that's not accurate, right?

01:23:14.000 You can see how they've been pulling back.

01:23:16.000 You can tell, you know, based on, you know, even, I've even heard, I think it was Elon talking about it, you know, Starlink, the bases that they're using for communication, you just see them receding every day.

01:23:25.000 They're just going back and back and back and back, and that's probably what Ukraine sees. 0.74

01:23:28.000 Not giving up anything secret, but you can see where these terminals are, and you can realize that they're moving back.

01:23:33.000 They're not winning.

01:23:34.000 But the mainstream media has told us, because, you know, every once in a while, Ukraine shoots down a jet or, you know, They shoot a Jeep and it's a major victory. 0.99

01:23:42.000 They withdraw from a quadrant of the country and it's a strategic withdrawal, folks.

01:23:46.000 So the real problem is they've created a thing and they continue to do this with the endless funding and whatever, that any deal that my father, his team, JD, whoever else is going to be involved, makes is going to appear to be a bad deal because people are basing their decisions and that people are basing their reaction to that on BS. They're basing it on our false information because they've been told that Ukraine is overperforming and they're winning this thing.

01:24:15.000 And if you give them a couple more weeks and they'll be marching into Moscow, it's nonsense.

01:24:20.000 They are losing this thing.

01:24:22.000 They are losing it and have been from day one.

01:24:25.000 And even if we spend a quarter of a trillion dollars or a lot more doing it, that's going to continue to happen.

01:24:31.000 They are on the border of Russia.

01:24:32.000 We are 6,000, 7,000 miles away.

01:24:35.000 It ain't the same.

01:24:36.000 Our guys, our people, Our citizens are sick of the endless wars.

01:24:41.000 We don't want to put American boots on the ground. 0.99

01:24:43.000 We don't need to.

01:24:45.000 So remember that as we start this process, because it's very hard to convince someone that everything that they've been being told, despite what they should understand after watching for the last nine years, but everything they've been told about Ukraine and their performance for the last few years, they are not winning.

01:25:02.000 Okay?

01:25:02.000 That means...

01:25:03.000 They'll likely have to give something up, in my opinion.

01:25:06.000 That's how negotiation works in the real world.

01:25:09.000 That's how negotiation plays out when you actually are dealing with the real facts.

01:25:15.000 There's a difference between the narrative and the truth.

01:25:17.000 If people base the decision on what's going on in the narrative, yeah, Russia's going to become a part of Ukraine imminently, guys.

01:25:25.000 For another $12 trillion in your children's future, if we spend all of that...

01:25:30.000 And destroy America, they too can take over Russia. 0.94

01:25:34.000 It's nonsense.

01:25:36.000 So just remember that because I can see that one coming already.

01:25:40.000 That's the next one.

01:25:41.000 That's a really big one.

01:25:42.000 And so really looking forward to that.

01:25:45.000 Obviously, you have the stuff going on with Panama. 0.94

01:25:47.000 You have the stuff going on with Greenland.

01:25:48.000 I call it MAGA-fest destiny.

01:25:51.000 There is manifest destiny where America should expand and grow and all of this.

01:25:56.000 We may have an opportunity for MAGA Fest Destiny, where America actually takes its rightful place as the leader of the free world once again, and hopefully once and for all.

01:26:07.000 So with that, folks...

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