Triggered - Donald Trump Jr - RAHEEM KASSAM WAS RIGHT AGAIN: Why my Father is Polling Better Than Ever | TRIGGERED Ep.65

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00:05:49.000 We have National Pulse editor-in-chief, the great Rahim Kassam.

00:05:54.000 We had him on the show a few months ago, and pretty much, honestly, pretty much,

00:05:59.000 he predicted everything that came true.

00:06:02.000 So we needed to have him back on to get the inside scoop on what's next.

00:06:06.000 Rahim started off working for Nigel Farage, you know, one of the original populists,

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00:06:17.000 He's out there constantly defending the insanity, you know, of what's going on right now in this world.

00:06:24.000 And really defending the America First portion of it because he gets it and he's been a part of it from day one.

00:06:29.000 There's a ton of information to get into.

00:06:31.000 Rahim will give us all the behind-the-scenes details of what's going on in Washington.

00:06:36.000 And, as always, he's not going to hold anything back.

00:06:40.000 That's also something that drives the people online absolutely insane about Rahim.

00:06:45.000 Now, he's British, so the rather judicious use of the C-word at this point, we may have to get into this one, because it drives them nuts, and at this point, I think it's just absolutely hilarious. 1.00

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00:10:21.000 With that, joining us now, editor-in-chief of the National Pulse, Rahim Kassam.

00:10:28.000 Good friend. You know, listen, we were chatting a little bit before we got the show.

00:10:32.000 You're driving people online crazy.

00:10:36.000 I mean, you've been doing that for a long time.

00:10:37.000 Usually, it's... Usually it's with your ideas, Rahim.

00:10:42.000 These days it's just sort of the British use of the C word, which is rather common.

00:10:48.000 It's common vernacular.

00:10:49.000 You know, it seems like in the U.S. that became like the unholy grail of language.

00:10:56.000 You're not allowed to use that.

00:10:57.000 In the U.K., in Australia, like British sort of... 0.99

00:11:00.000 The colonial world, it's sort of like a common, it's like using bitch. 1.00

00:11:05.000 Maybe, you know, like bitch exclamation point. 1.00

00:11:09.000 What's going on with this? 0.99

00:11:10.000 Why is it driving people so crazy?

00:11:12.000 And you used to have fun with it, but it's almost like it's not even sport anymore for you to drive the libtards crazy. 1.00

00:11:18.000 You know, there are a couple of things, and by the way, thank you for having me back.

00:11:21.000 It proves perhaps that I didn't swear enough on the first episode, so maybe we'll try and beat that.

00:11:28.000 It became a thing, really, you know, we use the C word all the time in England.

00:11:33.000 You use it to say hello to your friends, you say, you know, I don't even want to do it on this show because I think there are still some people out there who are a little bit...

00:11:42.000 Cautious about it. Perhaps after I explain, they'll become less cautious about it.

00:11:46.000 But that wasn't what really drove me to use it.

00:11:49.000 What really drove me to use it is, you know, they've started telling us that they don't know what a woman is, right?

00:11:56.000 But that this word is explicitly offensive to women.

00:11:59.000 Well, you can't have it both ways, right?

00:12:01.000 If anybody can be a woman and everybody is a woman, then you can't have explicitly gender offensive terms.

00:12:07.000 That's interesting. So now I'm like, okay, so we're reclaiming some of this language that you've said to us for so long is too harsh because it refers to, you know, whatever it is, because that whatever it is is so amorphous to you now.

00:12:21.000 So I started deploying it very often really because of that, and it's kind of an exclamation point on the insanity in America right now.

00:12:30.000 But the other thing that makes it so funny to me When I was growing up, the Americans were the brash ones. 1.00

00:12:38.000 We would turn on our televisions in merry old England and watch the crude humor in American sitcoms.

00:12:46.000 Even down to the bikini babes in the then Bud Light ads were a little more than the British palette necessarily had on our televisions. 0.97

00:12:57.000 And now it seems to have gone the other way.

00:12:58.000 It seems to have flipped. It's like so many of the libs, and by the way, I'm afraid the DeSantis supporters in America have turned into these like priggish and prudish people.

00:13:09.000 And I just think, hey, listen, you're in the fight of your lives right now.

00:13:14.000 And the thing you're most concerned about is some awfully, awfully language.

00:13:18.000 We have to knock ourselves out of that.

00:13:20.000 And I think what it represents, as funny as it is to talk about this, what it represents is who's willing to fight on the terms at which we are being engaged in this fight, and that is not by the rulebook, by the way, and who's willing to fight, but only up to a certain point, lest you offend somebody.

00:13:41.000 And I'm just not one of those latter guys.

00:13:43.000 I see that a lot. By the way, I see it on the show, because like I said, I understand fully where I came from.

00:13:48.000 I'm the son of a billionaire. But part of what made us different, like my father made us sort of grow up on job sites and construction sites.

00:13:54.000 He did the same.

00:13:56.000 And I think it's sort of why he relates to that working class guy so well, because he

00:14:00.000 actually spent a lot of time with them, not just sort of commanding over them from a,

00:14:05.000 you know, a gilded office.

00:14:06.000 He had the gilded office, but he actually spent a lot of time on those job sites.

00:14:09.000 So I did as well.

00:14:10.000 And I noticed that, like, even on the show, you know, I'll drop, you know, an F-bomb or 0.99

00:14:14.000 say shit or whatever it may be. 0.99

00:14:16.000 And like, you know, a lot of the people who are, language. 1.00

00:14:20.000 And you know, I get it.

00:14:21.000 I don't even mean it to be offensive.

00:14:22.000 I'm not doing it on purpose.

00:14:24.000 It's probably a flaw, but like, you're right.

00:14:27.000 There's a there's a component like I use it like punctuation.

00:14:31.000 You know, it's an exclamation point on a thing.

00:14:34.000 It's not meant to be anything else.

00:14:35.000 And yet, I think your point is right.

00:14:37.000 There's sort of a... And I imagine most of it is also fake, right?

00:14:42.000 You talked about sort of the dissimps out there.

00:14:45.000 They'll find anything...

00:14:46.000 Now they're going to take a puritanical approach.

00:14:48.000 And yet, if you search their feed, you find it all over the place. 0.98

00:14:51.000 It's like they need to find something to differentiate themselves and bitch about. 0.90

00:14:56.000 And it's like... It's sort of part of the problem. 0.94

00:14:58.000 You're right, like, the other side, the Democrats, like, they are playing by, like, the radical dictatorial communist regime playbook.

00:15:08.000 They're playing hardball and cheating while we're sitting there still, like, talking about, well, we must play t-ball so that we don't offend, you know, like, I'm like, guys, have you been watching, like, these people would put you in the gulags for life!

00:15:23.000 They're not even pretending anymore.

00:15:26.000 That is no longer, and probably never was, hyperbole, though even some on the conservative side said it's hyperbole.

00:15:34.000 Ron DeSantis said it was hyperbole a few weeks ago when he said the weaponization of our government.

00:15:38.000 Well, that's not real.

00:15:39.000 Oh, really? Is it real now with four indictments on Trump a couple weeks later?

00:15:43.000 That doesn't work. Right, right.

00:15:46.000 But you can draw these parallels in so many of the things that come out of the left.

00:15:52.000 But yes, honestly, I'm more, I mean, I use this word, offended right now by the attitude of DeSantis supporters on the internet.

00:16:01.000 Because remember, these are the people who have used the N-word in their private text messages, and those got leaked out and shown for who these are.

00:16:09.000 By the way, how did that not become a story?

00:16:11.000 Because that same person who did that, you know, said some, you know, off-color things about other people.

00:16:16.000 But, like, that itself actually was sort of like a sideline in another bigger story.

00:16:23.000 Whereas, to me, that's actually much more offensive.

00:16:26.000 Because, you know, they tried, and they've tried doing this.

00:16:29.000 It's like, you know, I've made jokes with my friends who are Jewish, but they're on 1.00

00:16:34.000 the text thread.

00:16:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:16:36.000 Like when you're doing it with your friends, it seems like it's actually different.

00:16:39.000 And I don't want to justify anything or whatever it is, and they'll try to cancel you for that.

00:16:42.000 But it's one thing to go after people when they're not present and you're doing it with

00:16:47.000 another group of friends.

00:16:49.000 It's a whole nother thing when half the people that you're actually offending are your best

00:16:54.000 In my case, I've had it with groomsmen, and they try to say that you're saying something.

00:16:58.000 I'm like, I don't know, dude.

00:16:59.000 The guy's a groomsman. I'm pretty sure he understands, and he's giving it back.

00:17:03.000 But because he's giving it back to me, that takes away from their argument, and therefore, we're just not going to include those kinds of things.

00:17:10.000 By the way, what is the kind of racial, ethnic slur that we can use against you?

00:17:14.000 Is it German? Can I call you a kraut?

00:17:16.000 Okay. Yeah, I guess.

00:17:19.000 You know, I'm Scottish.

00:17:20.000 I'm Czech. There's probably plenty, you know, I imagine there's plenty of Europeans that somehow hate the Slavs in some way, shape, or form.

00:17:27.000 You know, I'm sure there's something to do there.

00:17:30.000 But honestly, but I think, hey, if we're going to call it, like, I'm a cisgendered, whatever that actually means, but I guess I'm, like...

00:17:38.000 Straight white male, isn't that enough these days to offend people? 0.59

00:17:44.000 I would think that was more than enough to offend everyone.

00:17:48.000 Frankly, I think that's the most offensive thing someone could be these days.

00:17:51.000 It's wildly offensive. But back to the parallels, this is the campaign that had put out a Nazi Sonnenrad in its campaign videos. 0.56

00:18:00.000 This is the... Campaign where the guy who's running is sitting on a movie set in Iowa While your father is being arrested for the fourth time and paying bond and having his mug shot taken, and he's asked, hey, you know, what do you think of this?

00:18:21.000 And he goes, well, I'm just happy to be in Iowa, right?

00:18:25.000 I'm just happy to be on this movie set.

00:18:27.000 And it kind of tells you everything about who they are, what kind of campaign they're running.

00:18:31.000 It goes right back to this point about the realness of the people who might use The F-bomb or the C-bomb from time to time, the realness of that, the authenticity of that, versus this kind of scripted campaign where they're always trying to paper over who they really are.

00:18:46.000 Yeah, that was scary because you saw that on the debate, right?

00:18:50.000 Can I answer the most obvious question in literally all of Conservative?

00:18:55.000 If you can't, you know, if you need, you know...

00:19:00.000 If you need to take off the blinders to figure out how to answer, like, hey, would you do something to stop the weaponization of government, essentially?

00:19:08.000 And you got to look around, like, well, what will my billionaire donor sitting in front row say?

00:19:12.000 Can I get his permission?

00:19:15.000 Say what you want, but you think that guy's going to make a real call that's good for the American people over what those people ultimately want when they're the man?

00:19:23.000 It doesn't work, and you saw that, because the DeSantis influencers, I think, initially probably did a great job, because they were able to take a guy with no personality, who will, as Vivek sort of called out, check the wind before making any decision, whatever it may be, but in a short period, 15-second clip could make him look like he was this great fighter for the cause, but you see him in what I call long form.

00:19:49.000 You see the status in long form, and all of a sudden it's like, yikes.

00:19:53.000 It's scary. There is no personality there.

00:19:55.000 There is no actual decisive.

00:19:57.000 There's frankly no conviction to anything.

00:19:59.000 It's whatever it is to get him to the next spot, which is why the weaponization of government, arguably the biggest issue we face as conservatives, because if you think they're only going to stop at Trump, Clearly you haven't been watching is not really a big deal or isn't real.

00:20:16.000 That doesn't play. Yeah, and look, you could take clips from Rain Man, right, and edit them down to a 30-second teaser and run that guy for president.

00:20:26.000 But then when you actually sit down with him, you'd think, well, maybe this isn't such a great idea.

00:20:31.000 And that appears to be what they've done with Ron.

00:20:34.000 Pulled the wool over a lot of people's eyes.

00:20:36.000 And look, I was talking to people about post-debate, what key moments they think happened.

00:20:42.000 And really it was those two, right?

00:20:44.000 It was one, will you support Trump if he's the nominee but convicted?

00:20:48.000 And even in defiance of the pledge they signed to be up there on stage, some people hesitated and obviously people like Asa Hutchinson or whatever said no, right?

00:20:57.000 But the second part was the Ukraine stuff.

00:21:00.000 He's asked very clearly, in very clear terms, would you provide more funding for Ukraine?

00:21:06.000 And Ron's answer is, well, I would get the Europeans to play their part.

00:21:11.000 Yeah, hello, like 2015 Trump campaign called.

00:21:14.000 They want their NATO talking points back.

00:21:17.000 We're in a different place now.

00:21:19.000 People want peace, not equivocation.

00:21:22.000 They want somebody to go in there and knock the heads together of these warring factions.

00:21:27.000 Not to keep egging this war on by perhaps placing the burden on Brussels or something else.

00:21:33.000 So even on that critical question that you'll remember got him in a lot of trouble right at the beginning of his campaign.

00:21:39.000 He reversed his position entirely.

00:21:42.000 He sort of took the Trump-lite approach with Tucker Carlson on national TV. And then...

00:21:48.000 A day, maybe two days later, just totally reversed it because, again, the powers that be, whether it's the billionaires, whether it's Paul Ryan, whether it's, you know, Karl Rove, Fox News, whoever got a hold of him and said, hey, you can't say that.

00:22:03.000 You've got a reversal. He pulled back.

00:22:05.000 I spoke to a group of 5,000 Republicans under a tent about a week ago.

00:22:12.000 And I literally asked all of them, like, hey, is Ukraine a top issue for you?

00:22:17.000 Is it one? Not a hand in the room.

00:22:20.000 Top three? Not a hand in the room.

00:22:23.000 Top five? Top ten?

00:22:25.000 Top ten, Rahim, not one person raised their hand in a crowd of 5,000 people in the Republican Party.

00:22:32.000 And yet, for these guys in Washington, D.C., it's the biggest issue in the world.

00:22:37.000 And, you know, You're right.

00:22:39.000 I mean, DeSantis knows that, because even the lines that even hit in the debate We're like, basically, when he copied Trump policy, like, oh, we're going to use the military on the border against the cartels.

00:22:48.000 I'm like, really? Like, this is your novel idea?

00:22:52.000 I mean, he used nation in decline, which is like, I think it's like on the Trump website.

00:22:57.000 He used it like 15 times.

00:22:58.000 Like, you'd think that with the months and the preparation and the people that they've brought him in for debate prep, like, you'd think he'd be capable of an original thought.

00:23:07.000 But he hasn't.

00:23:09.000 No, but wait, he is. He was capable of one original line in that debate, and it was in his closing statement.

00:23:15.000 Do you remember what it was? I don't.

00:23:18.000 It was so choreographed, I stopped listening.

00:23:21.000 I was watching Tucker. He's giving this clearly scripted, or trying to deliver this scripted closing statement, and then you can see something clicks in his head, and like, off-the-cuff Ron comes in, and he goes, you don't get any mulligans...

00:23:36.000 And I think he heard himself say the word mulligan in a closing statement and realized, like, oh no, like, I totally messed that up.

00:23:44.000 You see, once Ron introduces real Ron into his common, you know, look, let Trump be Trump is a common thing, and people love that, right?

00:23:55.000 Because it's about being real.

00:23:58.000 Let Ron be Ron doesn't work for the DeSantis campaign because Ron, when Ron is Ron, is actually really just fucking weird at the end of the day.

00:24:07.000 Yeah, well, listen, you pretty much actually predicted everything that's happening with the sham indictments, with the collapse of DeSantis.

00:24:15.000 You're right. To get to know Ron is to dislike Ron.

00:24:18.000 I've been saying that to people off...

00:24:19.000 I've told you off the record this for a while because I spent three weeks with him on the campaign trail, so I'm like...

00:24:24.000 Listen, I get it. Short form Ron DeSantis editing into a meme for 15 seconds.

00:24:28.000 Like, eventually, you got to be the man.

00:24:29.000 You got to be on the stage. People will figure it out.

00:24:32.000 But you nailed all these things.

00:24:35.000 So I guess to start, talk about where you think the MAGA movement now is in terms of strength, enthusiasm.

00:24:43.000 You know, what's your confidence level about, you know, my father's 24 campaign at the moment?

00:24:48.000 Look, I think from what I can see, the campaign itself is currently solid.

00:24:53.000 I would personally have flags up if people from 2020 were reintroduced.

00:25:01.000 I think you have to have some learning moments from that.

00:25:04.000 You have to understand how the campaign got rolled on a number of issues.

00:25:09.000 There was obviously the big Oklahoma rally that was a problem.

00:25:12.000 There were a number of things.

00:25:15.000 I was on air a year before that election saying, hey, they're going to steal it and here's how they're going to steal it.

00:25:22.000 Unfortunately, it was so wacky an idea.

00:25:25.000 It was so out of the normal framework of how even American elections, when they are Not necessarily rigged, but when they're toyed with and monkeyed around with, that people were kind of like, oh Rahim, what are you talking about?

00:25:41.000 You know, that's crazy. Maybe that could happen somewhere off in Eastern Europe, but it's not going to happen here.

00:25:46.000 And of course it happened here.

00:25:47.000 And, you know, I think there are three or four major, maybe even five major areas in which I still don't think anybody's quite prepared.

00:25:56.000 I think the no labels thing is a much bigger deal than people think.

00:26:01.000 I actually have a lot of sourcing in Washington DC that they talk to me about how this thing is going to work.

00:26:06.000 You wouldn't believe it, most of my friends are actually libs in DC. And so I get to understand what they're talking about and what they're planning.

00:26:14.000 And a lot of the planning around the no labels thing, by the way, is to stop Both Trump and Biden getting to 270 and allowing a Democrat-controlled House of Representatives to pick who the next president is going to be.

00:26:25.000 And as a result, they will deploy strategically candidates on the ballots in different states to keep other people from getting to 270.

00:26:33.000 I don't think there is yet an answer to that.

00:26:35.000 I think, of course, we are seeing the reintroduction of COVID and COVID fear that is coming in.

00:26:40.000 Mask mandates will be coming back.

00:26:41.000 New vaccine mandates will be coming back.

00:26:43.000 And while most states will probably demur from going as far as they went last time, places like New York, places like California will try and set the tone by going further and faster than they did the first time around.

00:26:55.000 So there's all of these things.

00:26:56.000 And, of course, that comes with mail-in ballots.

00:26:58.000 Although I do think some of that backfires.

00:27:01.000 But, yes, I agree.

00:27:03.000 I agree with you. I mean, they're clearly trying.

00:27:05.000 I mean, Joe Biden wants to start a new round of vaccine.

00:27:08.000 I'm just like, really?

00:27:09.000 Like, wait, they're going for it?

00:27:12.000 Like, now, we've gotten used to sort of feeling like we're being punked, you know, when we see the news of the day every day.

00:27:19.000 I mean, it's half the thesis of this show, usually.

00:27:23.000 But they're really doing it. I guess there's so little awareness to what's going on, probably even with many liberals around the country, and it's so brazen that it does make you wonder, what are we missing?

00:27:36.000 If they think they can actually do this, if they don't actually care, if they haven't heard our voices, what do they know that we don't know?

00:27:43.000 How much of it's pre-baked?

00:27:45.000 Yeah, but look, I agree with you, by the way, that a lot of it can backfire.

00:27:48.000 I think a lot of this legal stuff is backfiring.

00:27:50.000 In real time, we're watching a lot of it backfiring.

00:27:53.000 You know, $7 million raised in one day, $20 million raised over the last three weeks for the Trump campaign in amongst all of these indictments.

00:28:03.000 There is, of course, elements of backfiring.

00:28:05.000 But that doesn't mean they're not going to throw everything, including the kitchen sink, at the problem and just see what actually lands any blows.

00:28:12.000 And I think one of the things about the COVID stuff, That they're really hoping works for them is independents and especially moderates who are fear motivated.

00:28:24.000 They will want to try and box Trump into an uncomfortable position where he has to hold his base by saying, no, we're not going to go through new lockdowns.

00:28:33.000 We're not going to do all this stuff that we did last time.

00:28:34.000 but at the same time, win over those fearful moderates and independents who kind of might want a little bit

00:28:40.000 of a lockdown and might want a new vaccine round and all of this stuff, it will be tricky

00:28:44.000 and it will be interesting and it will be hard for this campaign team to navigate.

00:28:48.000 But this is why I come back to my original statement.

00:28:50.000 I think this campaign team that they've got right now, I have scarcely seen more talent, more vigor,

00:28:57.000 more understanding, full spectrum understanding of not just the ideas,

00:29:03.000 but like those little moments, right?

00:29:05.000 Waffle House or Versailles in Miami and things like that,

00:29:11.000 that really make the world of difference to how, especially those moderates and independents

00:29:16.000 who are watching on cable news and network news, how they consume the media surrounding

00:29:22.000 what happened on that day.

00:29:23.000 Because without those moments, It would have just been, you know, Trump's going to prison, Trump's going to jail, Trump's going to court.

00:29:30.000 But then you have that juxtaposition of these, you know, populist moments.

00:29:35.000 That's what we did during the Brexit campaign, right?

00:29:37.000 You can have your onstage political debates, put everyone to sleep, you know, gray suits, gray topics, you know, Bret Baier, you know, putting everyone to sleep, quite frankly, during that thing.

00:29:49.000 But then you have to have these great open moments that could go terribly wrong, right?

00:29:55.000 They could go terribly wrong. Joe Biden walked out of the Pilates place last week in Lake Tahoe and gets booed in Lake Tahoe live on camera.

00:30:04.000 These things can happen.

00:30:05.000 But I think if there's any team out there right now that shows the aptitude to get a populist campaign done, it is this current Trump team.

00:30:15.000 Yeah, I mean, to your point about those moments, I mean, this mugshot actually seems to have really energized the base, and it was clearly designed to embarrass my father.

00:30:26.000 That's what the left wanted.

00:30:29.000 Now it's sort of a badge of honor.

00:30:31.000 I'm watching, you know, black Twitter explode when I'm traveling, you know, in the 10-week, whatever it is, since that thing came out.

00:30:39.000 The amount of sort of, you know, black males especially, but that have come up to me like, Hey, man, we get it. 0.99

00:30:44.000 We're with you guys. No more of this stuff.

00:30:47.000 It's a badge of honor.

00:30:49.000 And the D.C. trial is now going to begin on March 4th.

00:30:53.000 That's the day before Super Tuesday.

00:30:55.000 If we could imagine that a heavily biased D.C. judge could attempt to pick a worse day for the Trump campaign, it would be the day before Super Tuesday, where 12 states have their primaries.

00:31:09.000 And yet, for this campaign...

00:31:12.000 And probably no other in the history of campaigns, I actually think it could be like a windfall, even though, again, clearly not how it was designed.

00:31:21.000 How do you think all of this is playing out with those independent voters?

00:31:26.000 Yeah, look, I tend to agree that there could be a potential windfall here.

00:31:31.000 It has to be played particularly well.

00:31:34.000 There is still, of course, this...

00:31:38.000 I guess like wince that you have as an independent or moderate voter when you see somebody who's running for president entering a courtroom, right?

00:31:47.000 Let alone entering three or four different courtrooms over that period of time.

00:31:51.000 So you have to deal with it in a very specific and very certain way.

00:31:54.000 And by the way, I think you probably did this as well.

00:31:58.000 I think as we were all waiting for the mugshot to come out, we were all thinking, what's it going to look like, right?

00:32:03.000 Is he going to be smiling?

00:32:05.000 Is he going to be, you know, what's going to be in the eyes?

00:32:08.000 All of this kind of stuff.

00:32:10.000 And it turned out to be the perfect mugshot, right?

00:32:13.000 Honestly, it's like the perfect phone call.

00:32:15.000 It's the perfect phone call, the perfect mugshot.

00:32:18.000 I mean, it's perfect.

00:32:20.000 It turned out to be the perfect mugshot and sometimes you just, you know, God graces you with certain things at certain times and you just run with it, right?

00:32:28.000 And so I think you're going to probably see a lot of that and hope for a lot of that and pray for a lot of that on the run up to those actual court appearances.

00:32:36.000 The thing that I find really interesting for the people that aren't following the minutiae, the detail of this, is the point about moving the trial back was not simply an election point.

00:32:46.000 It's not like an arbitrary, hey, you know, can we kick it into the long grass, please, because we've got an election to fight.

00:32:52.000 Although, you know, there is that, right?

00:32:56.000 There's also 12.5 million pages of discovery in this case.

00:33:03.000 And the lawyers are saying, well, hold on a minute.

00:33:04.000 Like, you know, we're working a number of cases right now.

00:33:07.000 You, the judge, know that.

00:33:08.000 And yet you want to haul us in having not just looked at.

00:33:12.000 You don't just look at 12.5 million pages of discovery.

00:33:15.000 You have to look at, cross-reference, analyze, you know, All of these different things that come with solving a case and putting a case together based upon those sorts of things.

00:33:24.000 I mean, that is one of the most gargantuan, heavy lifts you could possibly imagine.

00:33:30.000 And I don't know about you.

00:33:31.000 I've had my fair share of dealings with lawyers.

00:33:34.000 Fundamentally, they are just like the rest of us.

00:33:37.000 If they could put in the minimum work, they will put in the minimum work.

00:33:40.000 And this is asking them to do not just the maximum work, but actually a level of workload that I don't think they're yet prepared for.

00:33:48.000 Look, I tweeted this yesterday.

00:33:51.000 This stuff is not just about bleeding the campaign dry of money.

00:33:55.000 Of course there is that.

00:33:56.000 But what it's also set to do is bleed the campaign dry of, you know, it's called opportunity cost, right?

00:34:03.000 If you're spending time on one thing, you don't get to spend time on another.

00:34:07.000 It ain't just the money you're talking about here.

00:34:09.000 It's the manpower. It's the brainpower.

00:34:11.000 It's all of that. And things are finite.

00:34:14.000 They are finite.

00:34:16.000 As much as I think of somebody like Trump as a Superman-type figure in modern American history, Superman still had his weaknesses, too.

00:34:26.000 You know, kryptonite and perhaps time is the kryptonite in this situation.

00:34:32.000 And that's what Judge Chutkan knows.

00:34:34.000 That's what they all know. Yeah, I mean, you talked about sort of in that tweet, I remember, and I was going to ask you about it next, you know, sort of, you know, four mechanisms for doing this.

00:34:43.000 What are the others?

00:34:44.000 I mean, that's clear. The opportunity cost side of things is huge, right?

00:34:47.000 Make it harder for him to campaign for those in the House who need his help.

00:34:51.000 And again, that's the place where probably, you know, I don't think, even if he was the nominee, I don't care if it's a Ronda Santas or Chris Christie or anything, They're not helping other candidates get across the line.

00:35:02.000 They don't generate that kind of enthusiasm.

00:35:05.000 So, you know, what are the other mechanisms, though, beyond sort of time and money to prevent him from being able to be out there also helping others?

00:35:13.000 Well, this is what I mean.

00:35:14.000 You know, they're trying to take away from the ability to push back and hit back on the COVID stuff.

00:35:19.000 I think they fully intend to use that as one of the things here.

00:35:22.000 They're trying to stop anybody scrutinizing what's really going on with the no labels stuff in the third party campaigns.

00:35:28.000 You know, everything you hear in the media right now is that, oh, no labels hurts Biden.

00:35:33.000 Well, that sets the alarm bells ringing, right?

00:35:35.000 Because if the media is in concert telling you something, then it is probably not true.

00:35:40.000 Yeah, expand on that a little bit because, you know, again, initially when I heard about it, I'm looking at it, I'm like, it probably does hurt Biden a little bit.

00:35:47.000 But now that I think about it further, it seems like it's designed, you know, beyond sort of the face value.

00:35:54.000 You start looking in and it seems clearly designed in a much more nefarious manner than that.

00:36:00.000 Because even the conservatives involved, they're happy with Democrat rule because they still have their power.

00:36:06.000 There's no consequence to that loss.

00:36:08.000 They'll end up with some sort of token ambassadorship or position in government.

00:36:14.000 So they don't care if it's another four years of this, but I think another four years of this is debilitating to...

00:36:20.000 You know, not just, you know, hardworking Americans in our economy, but basically do anything we hold near and dear in terms of our freedoms, because the attack on those things are, you know, our basic God-given rights under our Constitution has been under such attack.

00:36:35.000 And yet, you know, whether it be because of COVID or other things, people so willingly just accepted that.

00:36:40.000 You know, people like to say rhinos, right?

00:36:43.000 And you would say the people on the no labels who class themselves as on the right are rhinos.

00:36:49.000 I have a different phrase that I like to use for them.

00:36:52.000 I wonder if you can figure out the acronym for me.

00:36:54.000 It's conservatives under notional terms.

00:36:59.000 Right? By the way, okay, so much better.

00:37:05.000 Can we just please, can we just please replace rhinos with conservatives under notional terms?

00:37:13.000 Because, like, it's so much better.

00:37:17.000 It's so much better. And I know, I know, you know, the 5% of the people that have a problem with language, and I get it, like, if it's not for you, that's fine.

00:37:25.000 I don't force you to watch, and it is what it is, but, like, we got bigger things to worry about, like, It's a much better phraseology for essentially the same thing.

00:37:34.000 Maybe the same thing with an exclamation point, like Jeb!

00:37:37.000 I think it's more accurate.

00:37:41.000 Because they're not rhinos, are they?

00:37:42.000 They're not big, scary creatures that actually make a dent in anything and can chase anybody off. 0.96

00:37:49.000 They are frauds. 0.98

00:37:50.000 They're phonies. They're conservatives under notional or nominal terms, whatever you want to call it. 0.99

00:37:54.000 And the people who are on the no-labels thing, So you have the conservatives under notional terms, and then you have a lot of people who say that, you know, in the middle. 0.99

00:38:03.000 I like to think of those as the useful idiots generally. 0.98

00:38:06.000 And it's people like Manchin, right, who will be bought into this thing 1.00

00:38:12.000 because they don't realize necessarily that their philosophy, their mantra,

00:38:15.000 what they've claimed to represent for so long is actually on the chopping block under this thing.

00:38:20.000 Because what they'll do is try and run people like Manchin, put someone like Manchin on the ballot in West Virginia

00:38:26.000 with the idea of pulling votes away from Trump.

00:38:29.000 And they'll do the same to Biden where it makes it so that neither of the candidates reach the 270

00:38:34.000 that they need to win the electoral college, right?

00:38:37.000 So then you've got this, you've got to look at it in this sense.

00:38:40.000 What are the no labels people really care about the most?

00:38:44.000 The good of the American people.

00:38:46.000 I have yet to see that proved out anywhere.

00:38:49.000 Or is it this amorphous idea of like, you know, rules-based global order, right?

00:38:57.000 And that includes, obviously, furtherance of the war in Ukraine.

00:39:00.000 It includes the continuous denigration of the Constitution in pursuit of something that they just call our democracy.

00:39:06.000 Our democracy and the buzzwords that fly around so much.

00:39:10.000 And by the way, I was one of these guys back in the day.

00:39:13.000 I worked for a neoconservative foreign policy think tank as my first job out of college having studied politics.

00:39:19.000 I hold my hands up to it.

00:39:20.000 I was lured in by all that glossy talk.

00:39:24.000 But I saw through it very quickly when I started to probe and say to them, well, hold on a minute.

00:39:28.000 You talk about democracy and democratic rule.

00:39:31.000 We never actually talk about, you know, because people forget the English do actually have a constitution too.

00:39:35.000 We don't have it codified in quite the same way that you guys do.

00:39:38.000 But we have a living constitution, but we never talk about that.

00:39:42.000 We never talked about the defense of that.

00:39:43.000 We never talked about the importance of the nation state.

00:39:45.000 One day I went to my boss and I was like, hey, dude, I think I'm out, actually.

00:39:50.000 This isn't what I'm into.

00:39:53.000 And that's what they're trying to do here, right?

00:39:56.000 It's less America, more the world.

00:39:58.000 Less populism, more globalism.

00:40:01.000 And there are a couple of other, to come back to your question, a couple of other tricks Yeah.

00:40:17.000 but I expect, expect a minimum of four or five different kind of steel mechanisms to be deployed

00:40:26.000 at this next election and listen you could be the most popular candidate in the world.

00:40:30.000 If you do not deal with those things and you do not have an answer to those things

00:40:33.000 it will get stolen from you.

00:40:36.000 But the problem with this is, you know, I'll go to Morton's in D.C. and hang out with, you know, my lib connections.

00:40:43.000 And they'll say to me, Rahim, you know, if I tell you this now or you report this now, it'll be obvious where this comes from.

00:40:48.000 So, like, I have to wait on these things sometimes so that...

00:40:52.000 Put it very obvious, right?

00:40:54.000 Your buddy tells you something, you're the only person your buddy tells, and then I go and report it, well, then your buddy's going to know it came from you, right?

00:41:00.000 So I have to be very careful about these things.

00:41:03.000 They will certainly get reported out, and I certainly hope to report them out before the end of this year.

00:41:08.000 But it's bad, right?

00:41:09.000 There are mechanisms, there are steals, there are cheats that they're working on along the way.

00:41:13.000 They may drop some. You never know what Norm Eisen and all these guys are working on.

00:41:17.000 They may drop some, but I hope to be able to report all four or five, I think, in total, really by the end of the year, and have a big, big explainer article.

00:41:26.000 This is what we did before the last election.

00:41:27.000 I had a big, huge article about how it was going to get stolen in advance.

00:41:31.000 And then, of course, Molly Ball in Time magazine does it afterwards, and everybody goes, oh, wonderful reporting.

00:41:36.000 I said, wonderful reporting? She just wrote what I wrote, but I wrote it before it happened.

00:41:40.000 Yeah. Yeah, they did the post-mortem on how they cheated.

00:41:44.000 It's sort of amazing. I mean, they said the quiet parts out loud and everyone's like, no, there was no cheating.

00:41:49.000 I'm like, but they're like, they're literally bragging about it, like right there.

00:41:52.000 Like, what are you talking about?

00:41:53.000 It's hard to believe.

00:41:54.000 I told you how, I told you how, you know, the bus was going to hit the dude walking down the street.

00:42:01.000 And then she came along after the buses hit the dude walking down the street and goes, you know what?

00:42:04.000 I think a bus hit this guy, you know?

00:42:06.000 Yeah. You never get any credit for it.

00:42:09.000 I don't want a Pulitzer.

00:42:12.000 By the way, these days, it's basically worthless.

00:42:15.000 I mean, the people who talked about Russia, Russia, Russia, and the incredible reporting, all of which is proven, gets to keep their Pulitzer Prizes, which is sort of amazing.

00:42:24.000 I mean, because they basically reported fake news and are being rewarded for that, and there's no consequence for having found out that it's actually fake news, which...

00:42:33.000 I mean, speaks volumes about just the state of our media in general.

00:42:36.000 Like, it has nothing to do with good reporting.

00:42:38.000 It has to do with regime propaganda, which is what, you know, journalism, for the most part, with the exception of people like yourself, have really been reduced to.

00:42:46.000 They're regime propagandists.

00:42:48.000 You know, I think the only journalists you could really rely on nowadays are the people who actually tell you their biases up front, which is what we do.

00:42:56.000 You know, the strap line of my website, the National Pulse, the strap line is radically independent.

00:43:01.000 And the lefties and the dissimps are always, like, tweeting at me, being like, how can you call yourselves radically independent when you're so overtly pro-Trump? 0.70

00:43:07.000 I said, no, you don't understand what independence is.

00:43:10.000 Independence is the idea that we reach our own conclusions because we believe in it.

00:43:14.000 Not because somebody pays us, not because of advertorial, not because of any of that, right?

00:43:19.000 We don't take any donations.

00:43:20.000 Yeah, you're not getting $1,500 a month to support Trump, like most of the influencers who created, you know, at least the notional image of what Ron DeSantis was, let's call it six months ago, before people actually got to meet Ron DeSantis.

00:43:36.000 Right. And so that does actually make us radically independent because we're not in anybody's pocket.

00:43:42.000 I don't even serve ads on the site anymore because I never want an advertiser to come to us and say, oh, well, we don't like this or we don't like that. 0.99

00:43:50.000 No, fuck it. Get rid of all of that in the first instance. 0.98

00:43:52.000 Do your business model a different way.

00:43:54.000 And then you never have to have that kind of allegation of, oh, but somebody might be doing this.

00:43:59.000 I said, if anything, if anything, I've paid the Trump campaign because as a reporter, I had to fly on the plane to do a report on that day, right, where we went down to Georgia and we went down to South Carolina.

00:44:09.000 That's a legal requirement that news organizations have to pay the campaign back to fly on their plane or travel with them wherever.

00:44:17.000 So it's actually even the opposite, you know?

00:44:19.000 They've made money off me, not the other way around.

00:44:22.000 And so, you know, we pride ourselves on that.

00:44:24.000 And I think if any journalist tells you that they're like, you know, they're just non-biased and they just sort of, you know, calling balls and strikes in that sort of sense, but they're corporate backed and Pfizer backed and all of this stuff, it's a full and total and complete deception.

00:44:41.000 Yeah, no, listen, there's so many things going on.

00:44:44.000 There's so much confusion.

00:44:46.000 There's so much misinformation. There's so much.

00:44:47.000 But the reality, I think, for many voters is they really just they want to get their lives back.

00:44:52.000 They want their lives to get better.

00:44:54.000 And it's getting worse under Joe Biden.

00:44:57.000 You know, can my father, can the campaign, can you reduce that down to like a, you know.

00:45:03.000 Elect me and the quality of your life will improve because it seems like A, he's proven that he can do that.

00:45:09.000 He's done that already.

00:45:10.000 It seems sort of obvious, meaning I can't name a metric where we're better off today than we were four years ago.

00:45:16.000 What's the playbook here or is it just much more complicated than that?

00:45:20.000 Well, it's funny. I have a friend who was asking me the other day whether or not he should pursue, you know, a young lady that he was interested in.

00:45:32.000 And I simply went on the internet and I grabbed a clip and I'm trying to find it now.

00:45:37.000 I don't know if I'll even be able to find it.

00:45:39.000 But I grabbed a clip and I just sent it to him and I said, this is all you need to know about the situation that you're in.

00:45:45.000 I can't find it right now, so I'll just do it myself.

00:45:48.000 What do you have to lose?

00:45:49.000 What do you have to lose at this point?

00:45:52.000 That is the mantra under which Trump addressed minorities going into that 2016 election.

00:46:01.000 It is the same kind of mindset and mantra.

00:46:05.000 The lives of ordinary people have not just slightly become more difficult over the last three years.

00:46:14.000 They have become drastically more difficult.

00:46:17.000 Put it like this.

00:46:19.000 You can go to the supermarket and your bill will be higher.

00:46:24.000 I think everybody has experienced that.

00:46:25.000 I'm certainly aghast when I see something like $11.99 for a punnet of blueberries in Trader Joe's.

00:46:33.000 Now, bear in mind, I live on Capitol Hill, so that's probably an inflated price anyway.

00:46:36.000 But it's jarring, right?

00:46:38.000 But then you think about it this way.

00:46:40.000 You can't actually move house right now, like if you wanted to.

00:46:44.000 The mechanisms, the requirements up front, the percentage interest you're talking about, You know, all of these things, the prices of the houses themselves, all of these things are going, you know, to a ludicrous level.

00:47:00.000 You know, the Venezuela thing, when Trump first started saying Venezuela, Venezuela, back in 2016, I was thinking, all right, maybe that's a bit much.

00:47:08.000 Like, it's never really going to go full Venezuela.

00:47:11.000 It's literally going full Venezuela right now. 0.87

00:47:13.000 The levels of inflation that you're seeing, yeah, perhaps you don't have hyperinflation across the board, across all of the averages, But there is actually hyperinflation.

00:47:21.000 There's certainly double-digit inflation that is occurring in areas under which people would like Americans, right?

00:47:28.000 Americans, we're not living in Botswana. 0.99

00:47:31.000 You're not living with a currency that isn't worth shit. 0.99

00:47:34.000 You're not living as a vassal state of another empire. 0.98

00:47:39.000 You're not in the Soviet Union's orbit.

00:47:42.000 You're not in Chinese orbit.

00:47:44.000 This is the United States of America, and yet you have all of these machinations taking place.

00:47:47.000 Well, think about it this way.

00:47:49.000 Something has to be terribly and drastically wrong and someone has to be wanting it to go that way if it's going that way in the country that is the prime reserve currency in the world.

00:48:01.000 It has to be made and manufactured that way and you ladies and gentlemen who are watching this, you are the prime target of that.

00:48:08.000 You are the person that they are redistributing the wealth from.

00:48:11.000 When we say, when people like me have said for the last decade plus now that these people are not socialists, they are avowed Like, hardline Marxist, you know, to the communistic elements of this. 0.99

00:48:24.000 You better fucking believe it. 0.98

00:48:26.000 Because they want all your wealth. 1.00

00:48:28.000 They want all your land. 1.00

00:48:30.000 They want your kids to be taught by them and only them.

00:48:34.000 And if you get in their way, they will send the cops around.

00:48:38.000 It's like this guy the other day in England.

00:48:40.000 You know, this politician, elected politician in England...

00:48:44.000 Has a complaint about another elected politician being arrested for quoting the Bible.

00:48:50.000 This happened in my country, in England, a couple weeks ago.

00:48:52.000 So this other guy complains.

00:48:53.000 He says, you can't do this.

00:48:55.000 What did the police come and do?

00:48:56.000 They came and arrest him too.

00:48:58.000 You know? So it's not just, oh, we're going to go after you if you have a different worldview to us.

00:49:03.000 Well, what's going on? I mean, people don't even understand it.

00:49:05.000 I mean, you know, if you said this is happening in Banana Republics, you'd say, okay, well, we expect that.

00:49:10.000 But, like, the UK, I mean, I know they don't have the sort of First Amendment as we have it per se, but they are arresting people for, like...

00:49:21.000 Common thought that would have been just standard thought for the last, I don't know, thousand or so years.

00:49:27.000 They're arresting people for what would have been considered basic decency or basic science for the last few hundred years, and it's happened like that. 0.99

00:49:38.000 Where, you know, what we would have always thought as one of our great allies in freedom and liberty, it's all bullshit! 0.99

00:49:44.000 Like, it's happening in the UK! It's so far gone, you can't say these things. 0.98

00:49:50.000 I mean, if you misgender someone, even if it's by accident, or maybe just because you don't want to be forced to believe their ever-changing, constant machinations of reality, and you just don't buy into it, or you make a simple mistake, you're going to jail! 0.96

00:50:07.000 They're going to jail for quoting the Bible!

00:50:09.000 I mean, this is happening in England!

00:50:12.000 Like, if that doesn't wake people up, what does?

00:50:17.000 Yeah, I think, you know, maybe some of the problem is that For so very long, people thought this was hyperbole, right?

00:50:25.000 That these things were happening and that these rights were being stripped away from people.

00:50:28.000 And I think to an extent, we have had this thing of rolling our eyes and being like, well, all right, yeah, but it can't really happen here.

00:50:37.000 And now it's just routine.

00:50:40.000 This young autistic girl was ripped out of her own home by the police a few weeks ago in England because she made a comment inside her own home that a police officer standing outside her own home had the haircut of a lesbian.

00:50:56.000 Now, she was autistic, so what she was doing was thinking, okay, my aunt, I read the whole story so I know this, My aunt is a lesbian. 1.00

00:51:03.000 She has that haircut. 1.00

00:51:05.000 This haircut looks the same. 0.99

00:51:06.000 And so she said she has the haircut of a lesbian. 1.00

00:51:08.000 The police ripped her out of the home. 0.94

00:51:10.000 The mother was trying to explain, look, she's autistic. 0.61

00:51:12.000 She doesn't know what she's saying. They put her under arrest.

00:51:14.000 They sent her to jail, right?

00:51:16.000 Not only because of this international ferrari that occurred on the back of it was she released and the police had to end up apologizing.

00:51:22.000 But there was video from that incident.

00:51:24.000 And it just keeps showing you, you know, these people.

00:51:27.000 I mean, it's Orwellian, right, in a cliched sense.

00:51:32.000 These people have too much power.

00:51:34.000 The British public themselves have almost no power, right?

00:51:36.000 There's no recourse, there's no Second Amendment, anything like that.

00:51:39.000 And of course, the big taboo here is the nature of our societies have been fundamentally altered

00:51:45.000 by mass migration to a point where so many people are willing to vote for the kind of

00:51:49.000 jackbooted thugs who pretend that they're politicians are actually tyrants, people like

00:51:55.000 Sadiq Khan in London, and they have a stranglehold on hundreds of thousands, if not millions

00:52:01.000 of votes all the way across London because of what?

00:52:03.000 Mass immigration.

00:52:04.000 And we have a conservative government and we have had a conservative government for

00:52:08.000 the last 13 years.

00:52:10.000 And this week, mass migration reached record highs, even after Brexit, record highs in the United Kingdom.

00:52:18.000 Well, we don't have a conservative government.

00:52:20.000 You know what we have. We have conservatives under notional terms in the United Kingdom, and it's going to hell in the handbasket. 0.61

00:52:26.000 Because the Labour Party will win the next election.

00:52:28.000 By the way, for real interesting insight, never happened before in history.

00:52:32.000 The United States, the United Kingdom and the European Union will all have elections in the same year in 2024.

00:52:39.000 So this isn't just a formative moment for the United States of America.

00:52:43.000 2024 is a potential sea change year for the entirety of the Western world.

00:52:48.000 And if they don't get it right, I dread to think what we're going to end up with.

00:52:53.000 I mean, I really dread to think because Yeah.

00:52:56.000 And by the way, if we're not thinking that there's some sort of globalist plan around all of that, to weaponize those forces, whether it be monetarily or otherwise, or just work in conjunction with big tech to get what they want and get that sort of globalist control, then we haven't been paying attention.

00:53:14.000 I mean, it seems almost, like, obvious at this point.

00:53:17.000 Like, I don't think that's—it's not conspiratorial if you see it happening with your own eyes, right?

00:53:22.000 I mean, it's so flagrant. I mean, here's the choice that's going to be in front of the British public in their next election.

00:53:27.000 Would you like globalist Rishi Sunak, who has presided over the largest increase in mass migration in the nation's history, or would you like globalist Sir Keir Starmer, who pledges to re-enter us into the European Union and push that migration up?

00:53:39.000 It's not a choice, right?

00:53:41.000 So what do you do if you're the ordinary Brit?

00:53:43.000 Who do you vote for? This is a very important point, right?

00:53:46.000 Is that in amongst all of these problems, all of these issues, everything that we go through on a day-to-day basis, Nigel taught me this.

00:53:54.000 If you don't have the ability to laugh, and if you don't have the ability to laugh at yourself in amongst all of this stuff, well, then you're going to fail every single day because the anxiety will build up, the anger will build up, the frustration will build up, all of these things.

00:54:07.000 So you have to have that level of levity.

00:54:10.000 Well, by the way, talk about that a little bit because it seems like humor...

00:54:13.000 Especially, I mean, from the rhinos, or, you know, your acronym is significantly better, but for the rhinos and for the left, I mean, humor has been under attack.

00:54:23.000 I mean, I can see that.

00:54:25.000 There doesn't seem to be an outlet, because you can always find something, or you can interpret something to the...

00:54:31.000 You know, not Ackman's razor, but like to the least probable answer, and you come up with something that you're not allowed to laugh about anything.

00:54:37.000 Do you think that some of the violence we've seen from the left over the last few years, because there is that element of frustration, because you can't...

00:54:44.000 I think Nigel's really smart. He gets these things.

00:54:46.000 And I think there could be a component, because I feel like so many of the people in the...

00:54:50.000 They're literally joyless because they don't even know what they can laugh about at this point.

00:54:55.000 They're not able to make that decision because someone can always interpret it in a way that can be seemed or deemed offensive, even if it's not intended that way and just, you know, take it at face value.

00:55:07.000 Well, yeah, I mean, the funny thing about liberals is they killed liberalism, right?

00:55:11.000 They actually murdered it and turned it into kind of just left totalitarianism.

00:55:17.000 And there's no room for humor and left totalitarianism because what happens is you get erased from pictures.

00:55:22.000 You know, if you start making jokes about Dear Leader, And left totalitarianism.

00:55:26.000 You know what is an absolutely amazing example of this is this guy, Sean Farish, who goes to Bedminster the other day and stands at the podium and does just the best impression of your father right in front of him.

00:55:37.000 And what's the reaction? He loves it, right?

00:55:39.000 That's very good. He's laughing and it's great.

00:55:42.000 You could not see, like, Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or even, like, Ron DeSantis standing for something like that and taking it with the levity that it's meant.

00:55:52.000 And the love, by the way, that it's meant.

00:55:55.000 Because as I always say on Twitter, I say, these are very serious people and you have to take them very seriously, right?

00:56:00.000 These people, and look, I'm here in Washington, D.C. These people take themselves so fucking seriously, and I'm so fucking bored of it. 0.97

00:56:08.000 Like, they're not serious people, by the way. 0.98

00:56:10.000 They're not interesting people.

00:56:12.000 They don't have very much depth.

00:56:13.000 And what we're talking about here is the difference between the ironic mind and the literal mind, right?

00:56:19.000 And all of the left and all of the rhinos and the conservatives under notional terms and the dissimps and all these guys have turned into the most whiny literalists you could ever imagine.

00:56:29.000 This is why I like listening to you, by the way, is that you put everything into perspective.

00:56:33.000 When you're standing outside there and the Fox News guys are telling you, you know, you can't come into the spin room and all of this stuff, your response isn't to storm off in a half.

00:56:41.000 Your response is, all right, we're going to let everybody see what's going on here, right?

00:56:44.000 I'm happy to do it. I asked the security guard, what are you telling me?

00:56:46.000 They're like, is that real?

00:56:48.000 I'm like, you're standing in front of the security guard.

00:56:51.000 He said it three times.

00:56:52.000 I can't go another step further.

00:56:55.000 Is it real? I was a little repetitive in my interview because other people would show up.

00:57:00.000 And if I don't do that, they'll report it as though I'm grandstanding.

00:57:04.000 And I wasn't. I was just like, I don't know.

00:57:06.000 Why are you here? Well, I don't know.

00:57:07.000 It's a Republican National Committee debate.

00:57:10.000 And my father's leading that by about 60 points.

00:57:15.000 And so whether he's here or not, this is not Fox News.

00:57:18.000 They are the vessel to distribute that to people.

00:57:22.000 They're not deciders of anything they would like to be.

00:57:24.000 That's why they've been fluffing Ron DeSantis for two years.

00:57:27.000 They're not the deciders of that.

00:57:29.000 This is the Republican National Committee.

00:57:31.000 I'm representing the guy that is leading that.

00:57:34.000 You have Democrats in the room.

00:57:36.000 You had other congressmen.

00:57:38.000 You had surrogates of other people in the room.

00:57:40.000 But the people that represent Trump, Matt Gaetz, Marjorie Taylor Greene, me, you know, I guess Byron Donalds was the only one that was able to get in representing Trump.

00:57:49.000 It's like, I don't know.

00:57:50.000 And I'll call it out because they were like, well, is that real?

00:57:52.000 I'm like, how about you ask the security guard?

00:57:54.000 He's standing right here stopping me from moving forward.

00:57:56.000 Otherwise, I'd gladly go in there because guess what?

00:57:59.000 I will do a better job than it.

00:58:01.000 Frankly, that was the most viral moment of anything that happened in the spin room because of how absurd it is.

00:58:07.000 Look, I don't want to get anybody in trouble here, but I do find it galling, especially when your father endorsed Ronna McDaniel, right?

00:58:14.000 And then the RNC wants to behave like this.

00:58:18.000 Well, it was Fox News that did that.

00:58:20.000 I don't think it was the RNC, but the point is that we're at the RNC debates that they should probably have some pre-overruled thing be like, hey, this is the way it should be.

00:58:28.000 I'm sorry, but Ronna should be out there fighting your corner and taking you in and saying, no, you know what? 1.00

00:58:33.000 He's my guest. He's coming in with me.

00:58:34.000 Whether you like it or not, Fox News is coming in with you.

00:58:36.000 And if you don't like it, Fox News, we're not going to do another debate with you.

00:58:39.000 And the people who lead these commissions, Dave Bossy, right?

00:58:42.000 Longtime Trump guy who's leading these presidential debates and all of that.

00:58:47.000 Let's have some action from our own side instead of the pusillanimity that comes along with, I don't know, Backing somebody like Asa Hutchinson, because at that point, if you're not willing to make a stand, you might as well back somebody like Asa Hutchinson, right?

00:59:00.000 Well, talk about...

00:59:01.000 I mean, given the gravity of what we're seeing right now, right?

00:59:04.000 We're talking about, you know, primaries, right?

00:59:06.000 But they want to put my father in jail for, like, 750 years, possibly the death penalty.

00:59:14.000 The recent Republican primary debates sort of seemed like they were in the distant past.

00:59:19.000 They seemed like they were in the distant past about 12 hours after they concluded with yet another indictment of a political rival by what's known around the country as one of the more corrupt precincts anywhere in the country.

00:59:38.000 They didn't want me to do the spin room.

00:59:39.000 We discussed that. But, I mean, do you see any point in actually having a bunch of these debates?

00:59:44.000 Like, if they are, and, I don't know, they don't even really talk about that.

00:59:49.000 You know, they don't talk about prosecuting the case against Joe Biden, how you're actually going to win.

00:59:53.000 I know, you know, to say he's the only one that can get elected.

00:59:56.000 The problem is, before people got to know Ron, that was true.

00:59:59.000 They founded their campaign around that notion, but now...

01:00:02.000 Trump is actually the only one beating Biden head-to-head across the board in national polls.

01:00:07.000 Ron is now losing bigly, to use the vernacular of someone near and dear.

01:00:14.000 But, you know, they don't talk about it.

01:00:15.000 They're still pretending like that's not the case.

01:00:18.000 What are your thoughts on the future of these debates, the future of these primaries, and what's going on?

01:00:25.000 Yeah, and look, there's a reason that Never Back Down, which is the DeSantis PAC, has decided to drop, you know, 12 more million dollars on ads predominantly in Iowa, because that debate didn't actually get – they didn't get what they wanted out of that debate, out of Ron. I mean, they got – I think they got the opposite.

01:00:43.000 They got something. I mean, he had a moment.

01:00:45.000 It just wasn't a good one.

01:00:46.000 Well, and to quote him, you know, you don't get a mulligan.

01:00:49.000 So now you've got to drop more money to just try and stay level in Iowa.

01:00:55.000 Look, I said this months and months ago.

01:00:57.000 This is what happens to campaigns who get off on the wrong foot.

01:01:00.000 It's what happens to campaigns that hire bad staff.

01:01:03.000 You know, people start dropping out.

01:01:04.000 They have to have a reshuffle.

01:01:06.000 I think they've had five or six now resets, reshuffles, whatever you want to call them.

01:01:10.000 And nothing.

01:01:12.000 Nothing has changed. Nothing has moved.

01:01:15.000 If you want to get really nerdy about it, you can get really nerdy about it and identify specifically what the problem in that campaign is.

01:01:22.000 And it begins with Jeff and ends in Roe, you know, the campaign, the chief strategist over there from Axiom Strategies who, you know, they talk about it this way.

01:01:32.000 You know, Chip Roy talks about the debate to the media the next day, and he says, oh, I think this was great, and I think, you know, we're going to deploy the Ted Cruz strategy here.

01:01:39.000 And one of the journalists said, yeah, Ted Cruz didn't win the primary in 2016.

01:01:44.000 Yeah, I'm sorry. What people don't understand with a Jeff Rowe, he's a very smart guy, just not for that.

01:01:50.000 He's really good at making money.

01:01:52.000 He's a businessman, and this is his vehicle.

01:01:54.000 Something like 80-something percent of all of the dollars going through the DeSantis campaign and Super PAC are ultimately funneled through an entity controlled, owned, operated by Jeff Rowe.

01:02:05.000 He'll make $50- $60 million this election cycle.

01:02:09.000 And that's what he cares about. I mean, that's his sort of model.

01:02:12.000 He either finds somebody he can make a lot of money, or he finds a wealthy person who wants the ego of being a senator, but probably has no business actually running, says, oh yeah, spend $20 million, I'll pocket at least 60-70% of that, or run it through my vehicles, keep my people employed, make a lot of money.

01:02:30.000 And it actually hurts us in these primaries.

01:02:31.000 So, you know, when historians look back at the DeSantis campaign, how is it going to be described?

01:02:36.000 Is this going to end up being...

01:02:38.000 Maybe the biggest fail in modern American political history, especially given sort of the great expectations that everyone was promised? 0.84

01:02:47.000 Yes, I think probably the best way to describe it is an historic clusterfuck, right? 0.65

01:02:53.000 I think that's probably as accurate as you can be with it. 0.80

01:02:56.000 And you're right about the money motivation behind people like that.

01:03:00.000 I'll make a prediction that not only will he make all of that money, but he'll then sell his firm after this as well.

01:03:05.000 Yeah, based on the multiples of what he just made.

01:03:09.000 Yeah, exactly. And, you know, that'd be a smart thing to do if you're trying to make money.

01:03:14.000 That's what he's good at.

01:03:16.000 But it's absolutely woeful.

01:03:19.000 And, you know, if you really want to get even nerdier about it, you go, okay, well, why did Ron hire Jeff Rowe in the first place?

01:03:25.000 Well, Adam Laxell, who had Jeff Rowe as his campaign chief, was the one who convinced Ron DeSantis to hire him as his campaign chief.

01:03:34.000 Well, Adam Laxell lost.

01:03:35.000 So, like, why did Ron DeSantis look at that and go, yeah, that seems like a good idea.

01:03:40.000 Like, that tells you and should tell you everything you need to know about the decision-making process there in Tallahassee.

01:03:45.000 Look, he's going through it at the moment.

01:03:47.000 Florida's obviously got a hurricane bearing down there.

01:03:49.000 They've had the illegals washing up on shore in Jupiter Beach.

01:03:52.000 I'm not sure if you saw that. Oh, I did.

01:03:54.000 I put it out. That's, like, literally, from where I sit right now, that's about a mile, maybe a mile and a half away.

01:04:01.000 Yeah, it'd be nice if we elected a governor, and I think he's been fine as governor.

01:04:05.000 But we elected a governor to not go on what was, A, a perpetual book tour.

01:04:09.000 Having been on book tours before, they usually last about a week, sometimes two.

01:04:13.000 His was about six months, and then magically, just magically, Raheem morphed into a campaign.

01:04:18.000 I mean, he's been an absentee governor, and these things are going on.

01:04:21.000 I mean, that's not what the people of Florida voted, and I think that's showing in Florida polling as well.

01:04:25.000 I think it's showing when he turns up to events in Florida now.

01:04:28.000 I don't know if you saw this, and he's getting booed, and people are chanting, we want Trump, when he's in Jacksonville, and things like that.

01:04:34.000 I mean, it's getting so bad, I think, for Ron DeSantis right now.

01:04:39.000 But to come back, I think, to your question is, what are we going to see in the next couple of months?

01:04:45.000 Well, of course. Chip Roy is right, by the way.

01:04:48.000 They have to just completely lean into Iowa.

01:04:50.000 It's why they did this farcical thing like, We're going to 99 counties when we've appointed 99 county chairs.

01:04:55.000 So we started at the National Post to go through who these county chairs were.

01:04:59.000 I mean, it is just a litany.

01:05:02.000 There's never Trumpers.

01:05:03.000 There's Democrats. 1.00

01:05:05.000 There's people who say nasty shit about the South. 1.00

01:05:09.000 Like, call them brainless people in the South. 1.00

01:05:12.000 These are the people that Ron is appointing as county chairs across Iowa with the hopes that that will somehow drag him over the finish line there.

01:05:18.000 I think they're going to get increasingly desperate there.

01:05:21.000 Wait till you start hearing in the next month or two, oh no, actually Iowa's not our firewall.

01:05:26.000 New Hampshire's actually the firewall.

01:05:28.000 No, no, no, but that's Chris Christie's one state campaign is New Hampshire.

01:05:32.000 So he's got to skip that and then become magically relevant in South Carolina, which I have a feeling will not happen.

01:05:38.000 I have a feeling will not happen.

01:05:40.000 But yeah, I think... The excuses are about to pile on, so that'll be interesting.

01:05:45.000 So National Pulse, you have your first print edition out with the title, America's Most Wanted.

01:05:52.000 Despite their best efforts, America wants another Trump term.

01:05:57.000 Talk about that. Talk where people can find the national pulse as well, because I think that's important.

01:06:01.000 Again, I don't think anyone watching this show believes that they're going to get an honest assessment, certainly not of Trump or what's going on in the real world, from even Fox News at this point, even mainstream conservative media.

01:06:16.000 So they are opening up their eyes and their minds to other sources, whether it's this kind of program, people like yourself.

01:06:22.000 Talk a little bit about that, where they can get it, and what's going on.

01:06:27.000 Congratulations, by the way. That's a big deal.

01:06:29.000 Thank you. Yeah, I always say when people tell you who they are, believe them, right?

01:06:32.000 And that can go one of two ways.

01:06:35.000 You can teach you who people are if they're nasty and duplicitous or whatever.

01:06:40.000 And it can teach you who actually is telling you the truth.

01:06:42.000 At the National Pulse, we don't hide who we are, right?

01:06:44.000 Like, you will see it in our headlines, you will see it reflected in our picture choices, in the editorial content, in the audiovisual content.

01:06:52.000 You know, we are who we say we are.

01:06:54.000 We have this set of beliefs and we present the news through that lens.

01:06:58.000 If you want to read it and pick holes in it, that's absolutely fine.

01:07:02.000 We have a comment section where people can come and argue with us, they often do, and that's absolutely fine to do that.

01:07:07.000 But what we're trying to do here is reintroduce the idea of, oh gosh, I don't know, you know, an old school idea of being honest with people when you're presenting them with information.

01:07:20.000 Stop the insanity, Raheem, please!

01:07:22.000 We cannot have this.

01:07:23.000 People must be spoon-fed the narrative.

01:07:26.000 They must buy into that gospel. 0.84

01:07:28.000 They must believe their lying eyes.

01:07:32.000 Please don't do this.

01:07:33.000 That would be the end of the Rhinos and the Uni Party in one foul swoop.

01:07:39.000 Look, I do editor's notes on some of the stories where I actually get into, like, hey, here's why this is good.

01:07:46.000 Here's why this is bad.

01:07:47.000 Like, here's the behind the scenes on this.

01:07:49.000 Here are the players that you need to know that are involved in this.

01:07:52.000 A lot of the detail that we've been talking about today...

01:07:55.000 Gets in there. And of course, yeah, we've got the Print Quarterly magazine coming out.

01:07:59.000 We have a number of other shows now that are connected to the network.

01:08:03.000 Steve Bannon's War Room, the Flackers Talks podcast.

01:08:06.000 We're adding shows. So we're really, like a lot of people I think will be familiar with Ben Shapiro's Daily Wire, which is kind of like the neoliberal, neoconservative right news network.

01:08:17.000 We are building kind of the America first, the MAGA version of that.

01:08:21.000 So people can come over to TheNationalPulse.com.

01:08:24.000 We offer a free service.

01:08:26.000 We offer a premium service.

01:08:27.000 And if you want to try the premium service, it's nine bucks a month and the first month is free.

01:08:32.000 So, yeah.

01:08:34.000 Listen, I've never encountered somebody who's come along, experienced the site, what it stands for, how it reports the news all day long, and decided, you know what?

01:08:43.000 I hate this. It ain't for me.

01:08:44.000 And I challenge anybody out there to come along, have a free month, I bet you you'll love it.

01:08:49.000 I'm sure they will. So I want to talk about personnel, because I think this is something, you know, and rightfully so, you know, frankly, a lot of that was due to Chris Christie being in charge of the Plum Book and, you know, ultimately the transition.

01:09:01.000 So it's interesting to see how he would do things differently when a lot of the sort of rhinos that you got in there were literally put in there by Chris Christie.

01:09:09.000 But coming in as an outsider, uh, That was difficult.

01:09:13.000 You don't know. You've got to assume that other people are going to give you the truth.

01:09:17.000 And, you know, hey, before you get in there, you'll believe they're all part of that movement.

01:09:22.000 Turns out that's an abject lie.

01:09:23.000 I think you get that now.

01:09:25.000 I think Trump understands that better than anyone right now.

01:09:28.000 So what do you think staffing, staffing looks like in a second Trump term?

01:09:33.000 Because I think, again, I think it's a place we could have done better in the first term.

01:09:38.000 If I call balls and strikes, I think it's a lot harder to have figured that out,

01:09:43.000 not knowing that and coming in new.

01:09:45.000 But now with four years actual experience on the job, four years outside watching people flip back and snake you,

01:09:52.000 I think you have a good idea of that.

01:09:54.000 What do you think it looks like in a second Trump term?

01:09:57.000 How do you ensure that you have strong America first loyalists who are also going to get the job done in there?

01:10:02.000 I will also push back on this a little bit because I really don't think the personnel problem was as large as people, you know, like to now in retrospect make it look.

01:10:11.000 I think there are a number of high-profile cases, certainly, that you would think, okay, you know, probably Anthony Scaramucci and Omarosa and maybe what, you know, those sorts of things, Alyssa Farah and things like that.

01:10:21.000 But, you know, you've got to understand at the time, I mean, Alyssa Farah was somebody who just hung out in, you know, proper conservative circles in Washington, D.C. and beyond. 0.92

01:10:29.000 So it's not like there were the There was obvious glaring things that you could point to and be like, oh, well, this was clearly very stupid and we shouldn't have done that. 0.51

01:10:37.000 No, it doesn't work like that. 0.94

01:10:39.000 People will pull the wool over your eyes where they can.

01:10:41.000 And frankly, I've known Alyssa Farah since 2010.

01:10:46.000 Conniving, you know, dirty, disgusting behavior like that should obviously be roundly condemned and have a light shone on it so that people are discouraged from ever doing it again.

01:10:54.000 But the problem wasn't actually writ large.

01:10:57.000 You had similar levels of staffing problems in the Obama administration, I'll give you an example of, but the media never reported on it, right?

01:11:04.000 When somebody left the Obama administration under a cloud of suspicion and disgrace, you never heard about it.

01:11:09.000 Same thing is happening here, by the way.

01:11:11.000 Not to sound like Joe Biden in a whisper, but the same thing is currently happening in the Biden administration.

01:11:17.000 The State Department has these people who are being kicked off and having their security passes revoked.

01:11:22.000 Have you heard about any You have that in the media?

01:11:24.000 No, you have not. But it's happening right now.

01:11:27.000 Well, you hear it actually now from the DeSantis campaign, because another selling point is like, we don't have leaks.

01:11:33.000 It's like, well, once they had failures, and once they met Ron, and all of a sudden they got to lay off 10% of the campaign staff, all of a sudden the leaking is pretty rampant.

01:11:42.000 So yet another thing that was going to be different isn't so different after all.

01:11:47.000 I have to tell you this, and I know it sounds mean-spirited, especially because I know some of the people who work over there on the DeSantis campaign, but it's true.

01:11:54.000 And I'm sorry, guys, this is true.

01:11:55.000 You were the people who applied for jobs in the Trump administration and couldn't get hired over Omarosa.

01:12:00.000 So what does it say about you? Okay?

01:12:03.000 It's completely true.

01:12:05.000 It's completely true. Listen, fair point.

01:12:08.000 And, you know, they whine about personnel, and it just makes me think, yeah, but hold on a minute, like, you couldn't, you know, you were unimpressive.

01:12:15.000 Listen, the personnel question is resolved to some extent at the moment as well, because there are now, there wasn't this, remember back in 2015-16, There are now organizations and entities that are run by America First people, America First minded people, who make it their day-to-day jobs to sift through the resumes and do the background work.

01:12:36.000 And they have hundreds upon hundreds, maybe even going into thousands now, of ready-to-go people who will be great personnel choices in a second Trump administration.

01:12:47.000 And by the way, don't misquote me.

01:12:48.000 Because I'm not telling you that means that you're never going to get another personal problem again, right?

01:12:53.000 And dispense of that idea because people change and they go haywire, or they maybe, for good reason, they don't want to do that job anymore, right?

01:13:01.000 They go and do something else, whatever.

01:13:03.000 But we're in a better position. 0.99

01:13:05.000 Now, I did say this back in 2016, and no fucker listened to me, right? 0.96

01:13:08.000 So I hope somebody listens to me at this point in time. 0.92

01:13:10.000 there are two major things that you need to do from the outset in the next administration. Number

01:13:15.000 one, it is entirely within the president of the United States' gift to replace the head of the

01:13:19.000 National Endowment for Democracy, which is basically the CIA by another name, right? But it's a

01:13:23.000 completely presidential appointed position. It has to be changed. It has to be completely overhauled

01:13:27.000 because what they are doing on a global scale and has manifestations backwards into the United States

01:13:34.000 is a massive, massive problem.

01:13:36.000 Massive, way bigger than people understand.

01:13:38.000 Yeah, that's where they're sending their executives and promises of money to basically conservative places around the world or at least, you know, nationalists to their own country like Hungary or others and trying to manipulate their policy to become globalists.

01:13:49.000 Is that basically...

01:13:52.000 That is exactly correct, and Congress funds that without even thinking about the work they're doing over and over again. 0.99

01:13:57.000 You have to cut the head off that snake. 1.00

01:13:59.000 And the other thing that you have to do is, and I think these probably exist now, but back when I wanted to start this up myself, is you have to have kind of a laundering device For the nation state and the principles of the nation state in a think tank form, right? Because Washington DC only understands very serious people. 0.91

01:14:20.000 So you have to have that veneer of very serious about it.

01:14:23.000 I wanted to call it the Westphalia Institute, right?

01:14:26.000 because the treaties of Westphalia in Europe were the ones that really put into place the idea of

01:14:32.000 the nation state as being at the heart of everything. I think if you found something

01:14:36.000 like that and its job day in day out is to pump out populist nationalist messaging,

01:14:41.000 not just like the red meat but the intellectual undergirding of it to these people here in DC,

01:14:47.000 I think you will end up with getting some traction here.

01:14:51.000 It brings me back, by the way, to the debate, the day before the debate, and the dissimps are complaining on the internet that the Trump comms staff are briefing corporate media reporters.

01:15:02.000 And I just replied to Christina Pushaw, who's complaining about this. 0.99

01:15:04.000 I said, wait... Your complaint used to be that Trump didn't hire good enough staff that, you know, they couldn't do this job of spinning the media.

01:15:12.000 Now your complaint is they're too good at spinning the media.

01:15:16.000 Like, what are you...

01:15:17.000 Yeah, which one is it? Pick a pony.

01:15:18.000 But you're signaling to the world that you also don't know how to do comms work.

01:15:23.000 Predominantly, when I was working for Nigel Farage, I spoke to The Guardian, the New Statesman magazine, the BBC. Like, that's the job.

01:15:32.000 Like, they're not my... You've got to actually speak to the communists, not just to the fluffers at Fox who are doing your bidding for you.

01:15:39.000 You've got to actually speak to both sides.

01:15:42.000 They don't want that. Right. 0.84

01:15:44.000 And listen, I think there are so many great new talents that have emerged over the last couple of years.

01:15:50.000 I think of one of my former protégés, Natalie Winters, who I think would just make an amazing head of research in the White House for doing OPPO research from inside the White House. 1.00

01:16:00.000 And so I think you're going to end up with a really, really amazing America First team.

01:16:06.000 Yeah. When you look at what's happening right now in Maui, we've got to talk about this one.

01:16:12.000 You see one policy failure after another.

01:16:15.000 Water being distributed based on equity.

01:16:18.000 I don't know where equity doesn't fall into place when people's houses are on fire, but minor details.

01:16:26.000 Biden can't even be bothered to care, right?

01:16:29.000 I mean, he does this often, right?

01:16:31.000 You meet someone who lost their child in Afghanistan, and, well, Joe Biden remembers when he lost his child in Afghanistan, which never actually happened, doesn't matter.

01:16:39.000 You greet, since we're talking, you know, basically around the anniversary of the, you know, Afghan withdrawal.

01:16:45.000 You know, he greets the 13 bodies of the service members when he's receiving them, you know, checking his watch, because he can't be bothered with the time.

01:16:52.000 He goes to Hawaii and talks about You know, he almost lost his Corvette in a minor house fire that was put out in 20 minutes where he didn't almost lose his Corvette, but he likens that to people who lost parents, grandparents, children.

01:17:05.000 He can't be bothered to care.

01:17:09.000 I mean, do you think this is how Biden campaigns in 24?

01:17:13.000 Does it matter? Is the full force strength of the mainstream media and big tech who are working for him Does it get him over the line?

01:17:25.000 It seems like they're already pushing for him not to debate.

01:17:30.000 He can't be bothered to do basic stuff.

01:17:32.000 He can't complete a sentence. I can understand why they wouldn't want to do that, but does this allow him to just limp across the finish line?

01:17:40.000 Well, you know, the calculation is very clearly that it's better to keep Biden away from certain things.

01:17:45.000 And that's the calculation on behalf of his team.

01:17:48.000 Every time he goes somewhere, he ends up, you know, sucking on Jill's finger or something else weird.

01:17:52.000 Or he's on vacation 40% of the time.

01:17:54.000 I mean, you know, in all fairness. He'll do less damage for his own administration, his own regime, if he just stays on vacation.

01:18:02.000 Doing Pilates in Lake Tahoe is actually probably the best thing that they can deploy him to do at this point in time, because every time he goes out there, there's some flub, right?

01:18:11.000 You described a bunch of them there, but there's so many further worse examples

01:18:15.000 of when he goes somewhere and just messes everything up, embarrasses America on the world stage.

01:18:20.000 Foreign leaders are laughing at America right now, by the way, and it's a known thing all over the world

01:18:25.000 that when they meet the commander in chief of the United States of America, he's not there, right?

01:18:30.000 His eyes are glazed over.

01:18:31.000 He's walking in the wrong direction.

01:18:33.000 He's shaking hands with the air, like all of those weird things that he's doing.

01:18:36.000 You think he's doing it in public, in the view of cameras, and he's not doing it 10x, 20x worse behind the scenes.

01:18:45.000 That's what's going on.

01:18:47.000 And so, yeah, look, the Maui situation, of course, is horrendous.

01:18:52.000 Horrendous is a situation for the citizens there.

01:18:54.000 Horrendous is a situation politically for Joe Biden.

01:18:57.000 But yes, you're right.

01:18:59.000 The media, the pollsters, all of these guys are going to continue to cover up for him.

01:19:02.000 I'm reminded of the clip from a couple of weeks ago.

01:19:05.000 Where he's talking to reporters.

01:19:06.000 Again, he's on vacation. But the reporters are there.

01:19:09.000 They're lined up. They're asking the questions.

01:19:10.000 Hey, you're going to Maui. What are you going to do?

01:19:12.000 Hey, you got any comments about this, that, and the other?

01:19:14.000 And he just says, no.

01:19:16.000 Walks off in the other direction.

01:19:17.000 And what do all the reporters do?

01:19:19.000 Thank you. Oh, thank you.

01:19:21.000 You're wonderful. You're fighting for democracy.

01:19:24.000 Thank you so much for coming out here and telling us to go fuck ourselves. 1.00

01:19:27.000 Thank you for that. 0.99

01:19:29.000 This is the compliant class of media that we're talking about here.

01:19:35.000 Fox now has found itself full square within.

01:19:39.000 I cannot stress to people enough how there has to be a Bud Light-style boycott of Fox News.

01:19:47.000 And I don't mean just don't turn it on, because they get your carriage fees from your cable provider anyway. 0.96

01:19:53.000 You have to go and hit them where it hurts, like properly go and hit them where it hurts.

01:19:57.000 That means you stop. 0.98

01:19:59.000 Stop dealing with any of their advertisers altogether whatsoever and tell their advertisers that, right?

01:20:05.000 Like, I know Mike Lindell still advertises on Fox.

01:20:07.000 I'm sorry, but everybody should be texting and emailing Mike Lindell and saying, hey, buddy, no, we're not going to keep doing this if you're going to keep advertising putting money in Rupert Murdoch's pocket.

01:20:18.000 Like, just not okay. Yeah, they'd throw him under the bus so quickly your head would spin if they, you know...

01:20:24.000 So, okay, that's an interesting point.

01:20:26.000 So what are some of the big stories coming out either from you guys at National Pulse, but what are the stories that need to be on everyone's radars that aren't already?

01:20:38.000 I'm sure there's things that are brewing or we're just starting to hear it.

01:20:41.000 You know, what are the things that you guys are focused on that you'll be reporting on that no one else will be?

01:20:47.000 What are the things that Fox News is going to be ignoring that you guys are covering?

01:20:51.000 Well, we gave a great example a minute ago, right?

01:20:53.000 I still remember a time where that video of 17 migrants coming ashore on Jupiter Beach would have led Fox News for an entire day.

01:21:03.000 And they would have sent somebody down there to interview the locals, and they would have reached out to the Palm Beach Sheriff's Office to get more information, and they would have, you know...

01:21:12.000 We've actually done journalistic legwork to find out, hey, why is Jupiter a border town now?

01:21:18.000 How is this happening?

01:21:19.000 And they just don't. So it's going to be up to places like us where you're going to find information like that.

01:21:24.000 By the way, you still look for it.

01:21:26.000 Look for it out there. You can only find it on the nationalpulse.com and in local media.

01:21:30.000 For whatever reason, nobody wants to touch this.

01:21:32.000 We continue to do work like that.

01:21:34.000 We continue to do work, especially on the European migrant boat stuff that nobody's talking about, because that's coming here as well. 0.99

01:21:40.000 It's not just people walking across the border that are becoming illegals in the United States.

01:21:45.000 And it happened in Australia, it happened in Europe, and it's happening here now too.

01:21:49.000 We get into the nitty-gritty of the campaign.

01:21:51.000 I have a podcast called The Campaign Trail, where I literally go through stacks and stacks of data,

01:21:58.000 polling, all of that every week, listen to every single interview, go through all of the detail on

01:22:03.000 that and actually read you in to what a campaign manager's thought process is like when they go

01:22:08.000 through this stuff and when they see this stuff. And there are critiques of all sites and all

01:22:13.000 campaigns that we do on that. So, you know, thenationalpolls.com is really, I think,

01:22:18.000 going to start becoming people's one-stop shop. We're implementing so many more things,

01:22:23.000 categorizations, verticals, customizations to the site, where you can decide, like,

01:22:28.000 hey, what kind of news do I want to read about?

01:22:30.000 Do I want to read about things that are happening in my neighborhood?

01:22:32.000 Do I want to read about things that are happening around the world?

01:22:35.000 I may hire a sports editor soon, because when you look at what IceCube is doing with the Big Three and taking on the NBA, this Big Three NBA fight that's coming up is very much going to be a PGA Live Golf situation.

01:22:48.000 And it isn't just about like the sport.

01:22:52.000 It's about the politics behind the sport and the, you know, what do we always talk about in politics, right?

01:22:57.000 We talk about monopoly, monopolistic behavior, the totalitarian inclinations of the liberal left now.

01:23:04.000 If you think that stops at the boundaries of politics and doesn't bleed into culture and doesn't bleed into sport and everything, you're dead wrong.

01:23:10.000 So that's what we do.

01:23:12.000 That's who we are. You look at it, I hate this word, but we look at it holistically.

01:23:16.000 Well, guys, thank you so much, Rahim.

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