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00:04:22.000You know, it's an honor to be on your show.
00:04:24.000It's an honor to represent an amazing district in Arizona.
00:04:28.000And it's definitely been a wild, you know, first six months.
00:04:32.000I think one of the, you know, I'll be honest, I'll level set with you.
00:04:37.000There's still, I think, millions of things that I don't know about, you know, how the process works and all of that stuff.
00:04:44.000But one thing that I've learned in my short six months is the only way you make changes in that town Is through force.
00:04:51.000That's it. You're not going to come there with a better argument.
00:04:54.000You're not going to talk sense into people.
00:04:56.000The only language, it's kind of like some of the baddest actors around the planet.
00:05:01.000Some of these dictators, terrorists, etc.
00:05:03.000The only language they understand is force.
00:05:06.000Clearly that force looks a little bit differently, but you have to be willing to stand in the pocket, take the slings and arrows, say, no, we're not doing that.
00:05:16.000You know, this parliamentary procedure.
00:05:18.000I don't care about all your little, you know, regulatory rules.
00:05:23.000If we have a tool, we are going to use it.
00:05:26.000The American people are tired of what's going on up there, brother, and they want to see people who will use every tool necessary to get the job done.
00:05:34.000And, you know, that's the biggest thing I've learned so far.
00:06:07.000We had... When you weren't able to make it last week, we had Anna Paulina Luna.
00:06:11.000You know, same thing. She introduced, you know, articles of censure against Adam Schiff, who lied before the American people.
00:06:18.000And people... Well, we shouldn't do that because they would do it to you in one second.
00:06:25.000And until we start playing the same game, we're going to get our asses kicked.
00:06:31.000I mean, you sort of alluded to that's how we fight wars.
00:06:34.000I think that's why Trump was effective in some of his policies, whether it was towards ISIS. He said, hey, guys like you, Eli, you're a Navy SEAL. How do we kill the bad guys?
00:06:43.000How do we... And we allowed them to do that.
00:07:05.000And I imagine if you got in right after 9-11 and then you were there for a while, you saw that shift from war fighting to bureaucracy taking over.
00:07:16.000Talk a little bit about that because it was astonishing to me how bad it got.
00:07:21.000No, you're right, Don. When I look at the TTPs or the way that we're able to engage our enemies when I first got in in 2006 and did my first deployment, as opposed to what they were when I left my last deployment in 2010, my third deployment. I think?
00:07:58.000One of the reasons I got out was because on my final deployment, I'd seen how the enemy barely even respected us anymore because it was almost as we'd become the foreign neighborhood police force.
00:08:15.000It just got to be extremely dangerous.
00:08:19.000So a shout out to all my brothers and sisters out there that wear blue here in the United States, that thin blue line that protect us every single day.
00:08:27.000But that was one of the things that impressed me so much about your dad, Don, and not to blow smoke, brother, but he was an outsider.
00:08:34.000And that, you know, I can't believe sometimes that I was able to slip through the cracks and get in there because the longer you're in this swampy cesspool of politics, the more likely you are to become corrupted.
00:08:50.000And, you know, clearly I don't necessarily look like a politician or sound like one.
00:08:54.000So I didn't know that they would even let me squeak through.
00:09:00.000The problem up in Washington, Don, as you know, it's not an intelligence problem.
00:09:04.000These people have a ton of intelligence.
00:09:21.000I'm grateful to be up here and I'm hoping the American people send more and more outsiders who have moral courage and don't look at the surface-y stuff like, do they have tattoos?
00:09:35.000Who cares? Send some fighters up there that really want to turn this country around who are willing to be courageous and don't really care if they get sent home.
00:09:45.000Well, I think, and listen, I'm sure you've seen some of that.
00:10:12.000But I think a big part of the attack on Trump, the attack on the outsiders, is to discourage those kinds of people from actually ever running.
00:10:21.000Because I think people understand, A, things would actually get done.
00:10:25.000And if things actually get done, that's the biggest threat to sort of the power that they've been able to amass in Washington.
00:10:32.000You know, the retirement plan at Raytheon.
00:10:49.000It really is like you go into this massive grift where everybody's in on it, and you're just watching, learning, trying to figure out the system.
00:11:02.000It's pretty disgusting and it's very swampy to be up there.
00:11:08.000I think one of the statements and sayings that I took into Washington was, show me your friends and I'll show you your future.
00:11:18.000The most conservative people up there, and I said, I'm going to roll with these guys, even though they're definitely a minority up there, because they were willing to shoot me straight.
00:11:28.000Even now, looking at some of the issues forward-facing that we're looking at, they shoot me straight.
00:11:34.000They tell me, You know, this is the chance.
00:11:36.000These are the odds that we can pull this off.
00:11:38.000This is what we just gave up in this debt ceiling fight, yada, yada, yada, on and on and on.
00:11:49.000They don't. They don't appreciate me up in that town.
00:11:52.000They don't appreciate anybody who actually wants to change that town, not just say it on the campaign trail.
00:11:58.000But I'll tell you what, man, you get to make a choice when you go up there.
00:12:03.000You can either be popular when you go back home or you can be popular in Washington, D.C. And I'd much rather represent my constituents and fight against the Uniparty.
00:12:13.000Yes, I said that, you know, Republicans and Democrats, because it is a big swampy grift.
00:12:22.000Yeah, 100%. I mean, you recently sort of slammed, you know, the quote-unquote country club Republicans, and I think that's right, which is like, you know, at a small room back home, you sort of tell the people who elected you to office what they want to hear.
00:12:35.000But then you go to Washington, D.C. You want to be invited to the cool person party.
00:12:40.000You don't want the obligatory Washington Post hit piece.
00:12:43.000You know, you don't want the slings and arrows that you mentioned when you started talking about this.
00:12:47.000So you sort of bastardize your beliefs, Or all of the things that elected you to office.
00:12:54.000Talk a little bit more about that sort of country club Republican mentality and how different it is than, say, your constituency at home in Arizona that put you into office to do a very specific task that's quite adverse to the mindset and the ideological goals of the country club Republican.
00:13:41.000And then there's also the individuals who come there.
00:13:44.000And there's a little bit of strategic, you know, intelligence in their perspective.
00:13:48.000But they say, well, I can't make a difference in Washington, D.C. unless I get on this certain committee, because this committee has oversight of this issue that my constituents and me personally, you know, find very interesting.
00:14:03.000And so they're like, and I'll tell you, Don, that's another carrot they dangle over your head.
00:14:08.000If you don't play ball, if you don't say the right things, if you don't have the right policy positions, they won't let you on certain committees or they fight you from getting on certain committees.
00:14:17.000And so people play this game where it's like, well, I'll play just a little ball so that I can get on this committee.
00:14:22.000But if I really want to make a difference, I'll become the committee chairman.
00:14:26.000And then I have to play ball for, you know, eight to ten years.
00:14:31.000And before you know it, they don't even recognize themselves anymore.
00:14:34.000They haven't done anything for their constituents.
00:14:36.000And once they get that gavel or that committee chairmanship that they've been, you know,
00:14:41.000has been their goal for so long, they're comfortable and they don't want to be uncomfortable.
00:15:15.000The guy that was in Congress had a similar name, so he got elected to Congress, and now he's in the big leagues, and he just wants to stay there, man.
00:15:22.000He wants someone who will kiss his ass, and he just becomes a shell of his former self, because I... It seems so obvious.
00:15:31.000Like, man, you could do so much if you actually fight.
00:15:34.000And, like, who really cares what, like, someone in Washington thinks?
00:15:37.000I mean, I think the American public certainly doesn't.
00:15:40.000And yet it's such an influencing force on these people that they become the exact thing that they loathed when they first got in.
00:15:50.000No, you're right, Don. And it's been one of the hardest things for me to watch, you know, because...
00:16:34.000And I keep using that one word with my colleagues, force.
00:16:39.000Force. You have to use force up there.
00:16:41.000You're not going to get anything done because the establishment, the machine is so well entrenched.
00:16:46.000And it's got so many support circles from the media, special interests, the lobbying groups, that it's so hard to break through and you have to be willing to force it.
00:16:59.000You have to be willing to have the uniparty run a primary candidate against you or dump millions of dollars of attack ads against you.
00:17:08.000And that's another thing that none of these guys want.
00:17:11.000And they know that If they aren't willing to be co-opted by the machine, the machine only knows two moves.
00:17:18.000We're either going to co-opt this guy or we're going to attack him.
00:17:37.000Send people up here to help us out that are willing to go home.
00:17:40.000Because if they're not willing to go home, if they think that being called a congressman is such a big deal, we don't want them up here because they're not going to help us out.
00:17:55.000Yeah, I mean, so much of that really honestly depends on us, right?
00:17:58.000People are like, well, how does that guy get it?
00:18:00.000Well, you know, Mitch McConnell finds a squish that will do whatever Mitch McConnell wants and then has the full weight and force of all of the money they've raised in the Senate to support a primary candidate against like an America First candidate.
00:18:15.000I mean, I think we have to be involved in that process to helping them out financially, helping sure they get the recognition, the press, the PR, whatever it may be, against those other guys.
00:18:28.000Because whether we're in a primary or whether it's us versus the Democrats, we're not fighting a fair fight.
00:18:35.000I mean, they have the full weight and force of mainstream media.
00:18:37.000They have the full weight and force of big tech, 90% of big social, you know,
00:18:44.000and then you have sort of, again, the uni party, you have the Rhino Republicans taking Republican funds
00:18:50.000raised by like America first type people to fight against the American first candidate
00:18:56.000for their, you know, uni party squish.
00:18:58.000And so, you know, we are up against so much, we gotta be playing this game smarter, harder,
00:19:04.000and better than everyone else, or we don't have a chance.
00:19:08.000Yeah, you know, one good example right now to look at is my colleague and one of my brothers up on the Hill
00:19:13.000named Matt Rosendale, who's running for Senate in Montana.
00:19:19.000I can tell you I've been in some fights already with him.
00:19:22.000He doesn't blink. He doesn't back down.
00:19:24.000He's showing, you know, he hasn't even announced...
00:19:28.000That he's running in the Senate, but everybody knows that he's eyeing the seat.
00:19:33.000The polling shows him up by like five points against Tester and the Uniparty, the Republican establishment, does not want to support Matt Rosendale.
00:19:44.000Why? Because they know Matt Rosendale is not looking to play ball with them.
00:19:48.000Matt Rosendale is looking to make change.
00:20:38.000We have to get the American people, brother, to wake up and quit being complacent.
00:20:44.000Quit watching CNN. Quit watching MSNBC. And by all means, there's establishment networks on the right, too, that don't do us a lot of help.
00:20:58.000Start getting a variety of different news, educating yourself, and sending real fighters up here who don't want to be career politicians.
00:21:25.000You know, people are so busy just trying to live their lives and get by.
00:21:29.000Understanding that's not easy, that they're not...
00:21:32.000Paying attention to what's really going on.
00:21:34.000They're believing that narrative. They listen to five minutes of news a day, and it's CNN telling you that Russia, Russia, Russia is still a thing.
00:21:43.000That's why I tell people, like, share, subscribe to this kind of programming.
00:21:48.000So hopefully people, whether it's watching it or listening to it in your car or whatever it is, hopefully they see what's really going on.
00:21:54.000Because I imagine there's a big portion of the population that doesn't.
00:22:00.00017% of Americans, I think it was, or Democrat voters during the election, had they known about the Hunter Biden laptop, would not have voted for Joe Biden.
00:22:09.000Like, we wouldn't have been on the brink of World War III. We wouldn't have had the economic collapse.
00:22:14.000Banks wouldn't be failing because Joe Biden is an abject failure pushing those Democrat policies.
00:22:19.000And yet... They didn't even know about it.
00:22:21.000And I mean, even just the cover up of it, even that big social was covering it and big tech and mainstream media was lying.
00:22:27.000Like, if you paid a little bit of attention, you'd be like, wait a minute, is there something here?
00:23:42.000We're such an instant gratitude culture that anything that doesn't make us feel warm and fuzzy, we turn it out, we cut it out of our lives.
00:23:51.000My point is this, and I know that the listeners to Don Jr.'s show, you guys are wired a different way, probably similar to me and Don.
00:23:59.000But what I'm saying is we've got to be willing to have these conversations with our neighbors, people at the store, whatever, because We're losing this country.
00:24:08.000And the bottom line is, like Don just said, you know, a lot of people, I think if they knew better, if they actually got some of these stories or got some of this news, it might affect how they behave, how they vote, where they spend their money, etc.
00:24:22.000And so we have to quit being complacent.
00:24:26.000We have to be willing to engage and often engage in conversations that might not be pleasant with those that we love, care about, and even sometimes strangers.
00:24:36.000Well, listen, you're a SEAL, you're a businessman, you're now in Congress, so you've gotten comfortable being in uncomfortable situations.
00:24:47.000I know for me, God knows I've been blessed, but I've learned so much more in life From the bad stuff that actually happens to me.
00:24:56.000I think our children could learn from that, but we protect them from everything that could possibly have been imaginable, even the truth, because we're so worried.
00:25:04.000To your point, the Instant Gratification Society, anything that doesn't give you that, we got to cut it out.
00:25:09.000Through your career, whether it was in the military or otherwise, how were you able to get comfortable in those uncomfortable positions?
00:25:18.000Because for me, it was just either just...
00:25:21.000Having it be so extreme, you know, being, you know, tried for treason by, you know, Adam Schiff and the clowns and the Intelligence Committee, you know, a crime punishable by death.
00:25:29.000It just sort of changes that mentality.
00:25:32.000If you sort of back off into a corner, they're not going to go any lighter on you.
00:25:36.000But... Man, if you're not fighting, you have no chance whatsoever.
00:25:40.000What are the things that you've learned, the lessons in life to help people get to that place?
00:25:45.000Because you're right, it doesn't have to be physical confrontation, but to be able to be comfortable having an intelligent, fact-based conversation with your neighbors who maybe aren't Who maybe are just blinded by, you know, the CNN headlines.
00:26:00.000I mean, Adam Schiff was there talking about Russia, Russia, Russia in Congress last week as though it was real.
00:26:06.000He was criticizing me, and yet he forgets to mention that he literally was duped by Ukrainian shock jocks to get information on Trump, like the head of an intelligence committee in America.
00:26:28.000One, I think we've all been blessed with skills, talents, and abilities.
00:26:32.000And for myself, my message to your viewers would be this.
00:26:36.000Take what God gave you, your skills, talents, and abilities, and use them to get in the fight.
00:26:42.000A mission that's bigger than yourself.
00:26:44.000Right now, I don't care what you're into, but if we lose this country, a lot of people are going to get really uncomfortable really, really quick.
00:26:53.000My mom was really tough on me and my brothers, Don.
00:27:02.000She was an amazing mom. But I went from that to working for Chris Kyle and the SEAL teams, and he loved to beat the snot out of us new guys.
00:27:09.000And then I went into entrepreneurship, where it was full of adversity.
00:27:13.000And now I'm in Congress, which is also full of adversity.
00:27:17.000And one of my favorite scriptures, and I think it's James 1-2, Don, It says, Consider it pure joy when you face trials of many kinds, for it's the testing of your faith that breeds perseverance.
00:27:29.000Let perseverance continue so that you may be mature, complete, and lacking in nothing.
00:27:35.000We all want that little line at the end.
00:27:37.000We all want to be mature, complete, and lacking in nothing.
00:27:39.000But none of us want the trials of many kinds.
00:27:42.000And I don't care what movie you watch, whether it's Rambo, Rocky, pick your favorite epic thriller of all time.
00:27:49.000Every single hero has to go through that adversity, that training period.
00:27:54.000And we need more and more men and women looking to be forged through adversity so that they can help us in this fight to save our country.
00:28:06.000As uncomfortable as some of those things are, the more you do it, you know, just get yourself out of that comfort zone a little bit.
00:28:12.000It just becomes that much easier to do it.
00:28:14.000Then take it a little bit further and a little bit further.
00:28:16.000No different than, you know, lifting or working out whatever it may be.
00:28:20.000The more you find yourself in that position, the more you try, even if it's just, you know, incrementally.
00:28:26.000The easier it becomes, and everyone's just got to take that initial step, and once you realize that, it makes a huge difference in everything that you do in life.
00:29:31.000And that's why, you know, I think it's in 2 Chronicles.
00:29:34.000There's a scripture that talks about, you know, if my people would repent and turn back to me, I would restore their land.
00:29:40.000And I think a lot of, when I look at American culture right now, I don't see repentance at all.
00:29:46.000I see just a complete wayward culture that if God says, I created you male and female, this culture says, nope, there's 3,000 genders now.
00:29:56.000And I think that, you know, that's a big part of where we're at.
00:30:00.000And so, you know, I'm just calling on Americans to continue to pray, ask God for protection for this country, and, you know, pray for that this country would repent as a whole, and that we would turn back to Him.
00:30:14.000I think that's one of the number one things that we can do outside of putting God-fearing Men and women in office and as representatives to represent us in our national, local, and state politics.
00:30:27.000Listen, man, I'm with you 100% on that.
00:30:32.000You've been one of the people very vocal about having Congress do its damn job and everything like that.
00:30:38.000But given the recent sort of revelations on the Biden bribery scandal, misconduct within the Hunter Biden investigation, sort of the plea deal that it seems like no one other than someone with the last name Biden would get, Where do you think the Biden presidency stands today?
00:30:56.000What's the agenda of the House GOP? And is impeachment of Joe Biden on the table for you and for the others?
00:31:05.000Where do you think you are with all that?
00:31:27.000That's one of the only reasons I feel like I'm up in Washington, D.C. It's one of the only reasons I feel like God opened this door so I could be up here is to just bring a little bit more courage and strength to some of my colleagues.
00:31:43.000And oftentimes, you know, it's like putting weights on a scale.
00:31:47.000You put enough weights on the scale and sooner or later it just tips.
00:31:50.000But I am absolutely in favor of impeaching Secretary Mayorkas, impeaching Secretary, or I'm sorry, President Biden.
00:31:59.000Matter of fact, when Lauren Boebert was putting her articles of impeachment on, Or to, you know, to be referred back to the Homeland Security Committee.
00:32:08.000You know, I spoke right after her to, you know, support that motion just because, I mean, it's unbelievable.
00:32:16.000The American people are looking at us like, what are you guys doing?
00:32:19.000What's it going to take to impeach Secretary Mayorkas?
00:32:22.000What's it going to take to impeach Joe Biden?
00:32:25.000I mean, when you look at these issues, right?
00:32:28.000If this was Trump, it would have been over and we'd all be in Gitmo by now, you know?
00:32:49.000Everybody knows it. Everybody knows there's two, it's a two-tier justice system up there.
00:32:54.000And it's sad, Don, because, you know, the fact of the matter is, As an American citizen, your innocence or guilt often isn't about whether you did the crime or not.
00:33:03.000It's about what jurisdiction you're being tried in.
00:33:23.000I mean, you started off your political career the first couple days with the speakership race.
00:33:29.000You're one of the 20 holdouts on that.
00:33:30.000I think you guys got some amazing stuff.
00:33:33.000Obviously, you started off in that adversarial position, but...
00:33:38.000How do you judge what's happening in the GOP today versus what would have been maybe a GOP two years ago, before you had guys like you or Anna Paulina Luna or other people being vocal to that strong sort of America first position?
00:33:55.000How do you guys judge how that worked out, what it's getting you, and are you good with where we are or do you want more from the leadership in charge right now?
00:34:06.000Well, just to answer your last question first, I'm not even close to happy with where things are at because we're losing the country.
00:34:13.000This isn't about Republicans, Democrats, the Freedom Caucus versus the squad.
00:34:19.000It's so much bigger than any of these little people, any of these caucuses.
00:34:24.000We are losing this country, Don, and that's not hyperbole.
00:34:27.000We cannot continue on this trajectory.
00:34:30.000We are destroying the country and who knows how much longer it has.
00:34:34.000And so I am not even close to happy with where things are at.
00:34:37.000I want to be a part of helping us turn this fiscal Titanic around.
00:34:43.000I want to be a part of securing our southern border.
00:36:17.000This is about we're losing this country and there's a lot of people that have blood on their hands And they're people that we like, and that's not okay with me.
00:36:26.000Yeah, listen, I get it. I'm two years older than you.
00:36:28.000I'm 45. I also have five young kids, and I want them to grow up in a country that we recognize.
00:36:35.000And I think, you know, I see that slipping away.
00:36:39.000I see how, you know, even functioning at a high business level prior to politics and all these things, the things that I assumed, you know, the FBI, they're just trying to do the right thing, but that's bullshit.
00:36:50.000Right? Leadership is so corrupted and so broken there, the CIA, the DOJ. You know, it's taking all of this to see it.
00:36:56.000But I can assure you, it was a shitload easier to be a real estate developer from New York City, even as a Republican, even as a conservative, than it is to take on D.C., to take on the Uniparty.
00:37:09.000And I've seen what they've tried to do to me.
00:37:11.000But that's exactly why we need a fight, because we have no choice, because we are going to lose our country.
00:37:29.000They want to take away children from parents who are just like, I don't want my child going through gender reassignment surgery at three years old because their teacher...
00:37:38.000How dare you? I mean, it's fucking crazy, man.
00:37:41.000Like, we're at a point... Five years ago, if you would have talked about the things that are actually happening on a daily basis in America, the things that are, you know, fundamental, you know, parts of the Democrat Party platform, you'd think that you were being punked.
00:37:56.000You'd be waiting for, like, Ashton Kutcher to jump out of a fucking birthday cake or something and be like, I'm just messing with you.
00:38:01.000But it's happening every day, and that's why you're right.
00:38:07.000You do have to make sure that you have actual fighters.
00:38:10.000If you're not doing it yourself, Or involved in some way, shape or form that you're putting people in there who are comfortable being uncomfortable, who are willing to be out there and to fight because otherwise it's over.
00:38:24.000No, it is, and it's funny, Don, because this is some little inside baseball for your listeners, but a couple weeks ago, I was up in Washington, and we decided right after the debt ceiling vote that more Democrats voted for than Republicans, 165 Democrats voted for, 149 Republicans voted for, which many of us believe is a completely disastrous bill.
00:38:52.000We came back the next week and we took down the House rule on gas stoves, which ended up just probably being a messaging bill because it's dead on arrival in the Senate after the Republican Party Basically sold the country out for another two years.
00:39:09.000And I'm just going to be honest with you.
00:39:23.000You know, this hasn't happened since 2002.
00:39:25.000A reporter came up to me, you know, after we had a meeting with the Speaker, and he said, you know, Congressman Crane, don't you care about the procedure and the tradition of this House?
00:39:45.000They expect me to use every tool in my arsenal to try and turn this ship around.
00:39:51.000I said, you know, and furthermore, if you want to talk about tradition, the only tradition I really care about is the tradition of this town and the people in it to sell the American people out day after day after day.
00:40:02.000And it's like, that's the type of questions you get up there, man.
00:40:06.000It's like, the American people don't care about these parliamentary procedural rules.
00:40:25.000Everything, you know, the same thing with the, you know, well, we're not trying to groom our kids.
00:40:28.000It's like, really? Like, then you see their accent.
00:40:30.000Well, it's not that bad. They should be exposed to these kinds of things at three years old.
00:40:33.000What difference does it make? You know, you see that day in and day out.
00:40:37.000I mean, you've been very critical, and this is a big one for me because, you know, I see a lot of the rhino Republicans, you know, Ukraine is the number one issue for Republicans across America.
00:40:47.000I'm like, I assure you that very few people have spent more time with Republicans across a broad swath of America than me.
00:40:53.000And it's not a top 10 issue for anyone I've spoken to.
00:40:57.000What's your reaction to the news that the Pentagon made a $6.2 billion accounting error in overpayment to Ukraine?
00:41:10.000My initial reaction is how convenient.
00:41:38.000Just another $6.2 billion of the American taxpayers' money, or I should say more likely money that we don't have that we have to print off.
00:41:48.000It's going to go over to, you know, one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
00:41:52.000Or two walls, as I like to call it, two southern border walls or completion thereof.
00:41:57.000You know, we can't do that, but an accounting error can give Ukraine another 6.2 billion, but we don't have three To secure our border, to stop a scourge of sex trafficking, human trafficking, a fentanyl crisis that's made every border, you know, every country, every state a border state, you know, killing indiscriminately tens of thousands of Americans a year.
00:42:26.000And this is one of the things, even for myself, you know, I air some of my own personal dirty laundry for a second.
00:42:33.000This is one of the things I was so appreciative of what your old man did, you know, President Trump.
00:42:38.000He actually made guys like me question, you know, some of our own policy, some of our own agenda.
00:42:45.000Because I think, you know, for many years, I would have fallen into the typical, you know, more hawkish You know, Republican little groups.
00:42:54.000And when your dad started, you know, with his Make America Great Again, America First, is this policy the best thing for Americans in America?
00:43:04.000You know, I wanted to be the few, one of the few people, or one of the many people that was willing to even question my own politics and my own, you know, worldview and say, hey, Eli, are you...
00:43:16.000Are the policies that you support, are they the best thing for Americans?
00:43:22.000And when you say, Don, that you travel around the country and you talk to Americans, and the Ukrainian war and whether we spend money there doesn't rank in the top 10, I agree with you.
00:43:31.000In my district, people are way more concerned about not having a southern border.
00:43:36.000They're way more concerned about the fentanyl killing 70,000 Americans in this country.
00:43:40.000The MS-13 gang members that come over there, they ask me, hey, Eli, how many...
00:43:44.000How many more people are we going to encounter on the terrorist watch list before we do something about the border?
00:43:49.000And meanwhile, we still have this contingent up in Washington, the Uniparty, both sides, they continue to escalate another monstrosity that could turn into World War III. For what?
00:44:16.000You saw last weekend, it was like, oh, the Wagner Battalion, he's gonna go take it, you know, he's gonna take out Putin, and like, yeah, like...
00:44:23.000How much more, again, I'm not saying Putin's a good guy.
00:44:27.000I'm not saying anything like that, but how much more can we instigate, right?
00:44:32.000We've been sending military aid and missiles out the wazoo.
00:44:36.000I mean, we thought we were fighting a proxy war.
00:44:39.000Turns out we actually had boots on the ground as evidenced by the leak that now magically just disappears because we can't talk about that because it's actually happening.
00:44:51.000I mean, they only have 6,000 and something nuclear missiles, you know, nuclear warheads.
00:44:56.000I mean, it doesn't take much to say that the megalomaniac that they've been talking about is Putin would decide, you know what, I've had enough of this.
00:45:04.000And escalate to a point where, let's just say, global warming, the problems that they talk about on a daily basis, will be nothing compared to what happens when a couple nukes go off simultaneously because a sicko has had enough.
00:45:22.000You know, it just it boggles my mind, man.
00:45:26.000You know, it just I just can't I can't understand why these guys would think that this is a this is a great idea.
00:45:33.000I've heard the argument say if we can if we can defeat Russia without spilling a drop of U.S. blood, you know, that's that's in our national security interest.
00:45:42.000OK, you know, I hear I hear their arguments.
00:45:45.000But to your point, We are fighting this proxy war and pushing a possible nuclear war with Vladimir Putin.
00:46:10.000And I think the American people want to get back to an agenda that your dad was pushing where we make sure that we're putting Americans first.
00:46:19.000And Don, I know for a fact that you and I and people in our camp on this one don't want to see innocent Ukrainians get killed or anybody around the world getting killed.
00:46:29.000But the fact of the matter is, you know, when when your situation change, Sometimes your tactics have to change as well.
00:46:36.000This isn't the United States of 1980 or 1990.
00:46:39.000We were not operating through the position of strength that we were, though, because I think a lot of it is honestly, you know, a facade.
00:46:48.000I really do. When you look at where we're at economically, look at the group that just pulled us out of Afghanistan.
00:46:53.000I mean, look at how disastrous, you know, that pullout was.
00:46:59.000You want this leadership to push and escalate a war where we could actually go into a real war with Russia, maybe Iran, China, because those guys are allied up.
00:47:11.000They're allied up. Don't think for a second if they fix it.
00:47:14.000Part of all of this is creating that, right?
00:47:16.000I agree with you. My father said this very clearly.
00:47:19.000Like, he would put a stop to this in moment number one because he's sick of bloodshed on both sides.
00:47:23.000I mean, Ukraine's being decimated, and we feel terrible for those people.
00:47:27.000But guess what? That's not stopping until the money stops.
00:47:32.000If the money keeps going, you know, the future oligarchs of Ukraine, whether it's Zelensky or others, they're saying, hey, we'll make billions in this and the corrupt policies.
00:47:42.000They're not following their, like, congressionally mandated obligations to see where this money is going.
00:47:47.000No one knows. Again, they misplaced, you know, six point something billion dollars just now in Ukraine.
00:47:53.000The Pentagon lost another 220 billion in the last couple of months.
00:47:57.000I have a feeling if you or I did that, the IRS would be all over us.
00:48:00.000But I mean, They lost $220 billion recently, and I'm sure that's going there, but that bloodshed on either side is never stopping if there's no incentive for those decision makers to stop the war.
00:48:13.000And as long as we're giving them billions, and as long as we continue to fund this, yeah, the day-to-day citizen, it's exactly the case and point of America, right?
00:48:21.000There's Washington, D.C., and then there's Americans.
00:48:25.000As long as Washington, D.C. is doing well, they'll shit all over the Americans.
00:48:28.000They don't care about that. That's what's enabling it.
00:48:30.000So we're never stopping the bloodshed, in my opinion.
00:48:33.000And I think the opinion of my father, which is what he wanted to do, that's what he sort of owned CNN during the CNN town hall.
00:48:40.000It's like, I don't want any bloodshed.
00:48:44.000But that's never going to happen as long as we're creating the next billionaire oligarch class in Ukraine, giving them all the aid in the world.
00:48:52.000Because why would they stop? No, you're right, Don.
00:48:55.000And that's why many of us have been saying from the beginning, I think our focus needs to be ushering in peace talks, honestly.
00:49:03.000That's what we should be sending over there, is envoys, diplomats to actually bring this thing to an end.
00:49:10.000I think that'd be the most responsible thing.
00:49:12.000I think it'd be the best thing for the Ukrainian people.
00:49:15.000And I just think that's the wisest thing we can do.
00:49:19.000Yeah, well, especially when you think about, you know, hey, I'm not saying Putin may not have done this anyway, but when we decided to talk about bringing Ukraine into NATO and having those serious talks, I mean, it was a pretty solid, let's call it 500, maybe longer, it's a big country, you know, mile buffer between NATO and Russia's border.
00:49:37.000I mean, you know, you gave him every excuse you needed, and maybe he was going to do it anyway, but I sort of doubt it.
00:49:43.000When you took that buffer, that no man's land, and said, hey, now we're moving, we're encroaching on the no man's land to your border, you know, this is a creation, you know, of our fault, in my opinion.
00:49:54.000And again, I'm not saying, that's not being a Putin apologist.
00:49:56.000It's saying that you couldn't leave A 60-year-old buffer zone B. You had to encroach on that, which gave him the precipice to actually do all of this.
00:50:09.000We're not absolved of any blame in any of this process, and then we're just perpetuating and making it worse.
00:50:14.000Now, I like where you're going in terms of trying to get to peace, but I think if we send the traditional bureaucrats that couldn't deal with North Korea and couldn't do anything and haven't made any progress in decades to Ukraine, I don't think we're getting peace.
00:50:29.000I think you actually need a guy like Donald Trump who has balls and resolve to actually make these things happen, or you're just going to have the stalemates that we've watched You know, really, for the last few decades.
00:50:40.000All the people that said Trump couldn't do anything with North Korea or, you know, there's no way you can get peace deals done in the Middle East were sadly mistaken, but it's only because They couldn't do it.
00:51:34.000They do better than our guys, there's no question.
00:51:36.000I mean, who wouldn't do better than our...
00:51:41.000Diplomatic establishment. Like, I don't know of any successes that they've had before you had guys like Trump, again, come in there and change the game.
00:51:48.000I used to laugh, you know, when at first...
00:51:50.000Trump's doing it all wrong in North Korea.
00:51:53.000He's like, okay, I'm watching, and I'll watch, you know...
00:51:55.000CNN or MSDNC to see what the other side is saying.
00:51:58.000And I'm like, well, why is he doing it all wrong?
00:52:01.000Well, because I've been in charge of the delegation for 27 years.
00:52:05.000Like, well, what have you done in that 27 years?
00:52:10.000You didn't even have a meeting with the counterparties.
00:52:13.000But you're going to sit there and throw stones when someone changes that leave well enough alone because it was never well enough.
00:52:19.000It was always a disaster. But that's how DC works.
00:52:22.000No one has the guts to actually change that system.
00:52:24.000And there's no consequence to getting nothing done.
00:52:28.000And so you keep perpetually failing because it doesn't matter.
00:52:34.000No, you're right. And you see it across the board, Don.
00:52:37.000I was in a Homeland Security Committee meeting, I think it was last week or the week before, and I was talking to a couple of our quote-unquote experts, panelists, and we were talking about everything.
00:52:50.000That the Chinese, the Iranians, and the Russians are doing down in South America.
00:52:55.000And one of the things, when you look at what they're really doing down there, it definitely raises some alarms and makes any of us with common sense recognize that, hey, we better start doing something about this southern border and our homeland security really quickly.
00:53:11.000And I was asking some of the panelists, I was like, just basics.
00:53:15.000What do you think about us finishing the wall on the southern border?
00:53:18.000And, you know, two of the three panelists were like, well, that's not really in my area of expertise.
00:53:24.000And I was like, well, do you have any common sense?
00:53:26.000Because the American people are so sick of this, Don.
00:53:29.000People act like these people, most of these people up here who are considered experts or have their own think tanks, they're actually more interested in protecting their own careers than the American people are.
00:53:40.000If they say something that asinine and foolish and stupid that, you know, hey, that's not my area of expertise.
00:53:47.000And I ask them, well, do you have a wall around your house?
00:53:49.000Do you know why your kids have walls around their schools?
00:53:52.000Do you understand why walls are around castles and prisons, etc.?
00:53:56.000It's because they work, and they've worked since the beginning of time.
00:54:01.000You guys can't even answer a simple question because you're so concerned about your own personal careers and whether or not that one remark that might possibly tie you to Donald Trump and Orange Man bad is going to go bad for you, and somebody's going to tie that to you not getting a promotion or getting a client.
00:54:20.000And it's up there, it's across the board, Don, and it's just...
00:54:24.000It's unbelievable, but I get to see every day why this country is in the spot that it is.
00:54:32.000Before Congress, you served as a SEAL. Talk about what made you decide to join up and do that kind of, you know, not just join the military, but go that far.
00:55:09.000Wisdom, discernment, all of those things are very important, but what I see is smart individuals using their intellect to choose their own career, to choose their own exit from Congress, to pad their retirement, Instead of actually using their intelligence to figure out what is the best thing I can do for the American people, what is the best thing I can do to fight back against this uniparty, this corruption that continues to promote itself, defend itself,
00:55:40.000as opposed to defending the American people.
00:56:28.000Yeah, so, you know, what did you learn about your constituency?
00:56:31.000You know, you ran, you came in from the outside.
00:56:34.000You know, what did you learn about your district that sort of surprised you?
00:56:37.000Were there any sort of, like, just incredible standout stories, you know, that make it all worthwhile?
00:56:43.000I know, you know, for me, generally, when people are like, ah, you know, and I say, listen, it was a lot easier being a real estate developer, being like, being, you could do, you could do a lot, and But, you know, I hear some of the stories from people that come up to me like, hey, thanks for what you're doing.
00:56:57.000You're giving them. It makes all the grueling bullshit and the never ending indictments and the lies and it makes that all worth it.
00:57:06.000What did you learn about sort of maybe the American people or certainly the people of your district that sort of surprised you when you went through the process of running for Congress?
00:57:16.000I think the thing that I learned about them is they're a lot smarter and more intuitive than a lot of people give them credit for.
00:57:22.000They might not be able to tell you who the minority whip is or certain things about what's going on in Washington, but they have an instinct about what's going on.
00:57:33.000They have an instinct about what needs to happen and that we actually need people who are willing to punch back.
00:57:40.000One of the things that surprised me the most, Don, is that they're actually very reasonable people as well.
00:57:47.000I'll give you one example that really surprised me.
00:57:50.000We voted for a debt We took a debt ceiling vote as Republicans a little while ago, the Limit Save Grow Act.
00:59:25.000I need polling. I need to figure out if the rest of the district feels the same way that little town hall went last night.
00:59:31.000And sure enough, the day that we're voting on it, Hours before I got back, the polling from my district, I think it was the people that responded, 79.6% of them wanted me to vote for the deal.
00:59:44.000And so I was in a bind because my gut and my instinct was telling me, don't vote for it.
00:59:50.000But my voters, 80% of them were telling me, we want you to vote for it, or at least the ones that responded.
00:59:55.000And so I ended up going with my voters on that one.
00:59:57.000And so not only have I learned that they're a lot smarter than we think or that a lot of people think they are, but they're also willing to be reasonable and they're also willing to, I think, turn the aircraft carrier a couple degrees at a time.
01:00:14.000And so I try and stay, especially on the Close or tough votes on.
01:00:19.000I try and, you know, reach back out and get their input because I want, I remember that my title up there, outside of just being a congressman, is being a representative.
01:00:29.000And I cannot represent them well if I don't know what they want.
01:00:32.000And so, you know, that means a lot to me.
01:00:34.000And it definitely, that specific one surprised me.
01:00:38.000Yeah, you know, it's an interesting one, because I had a couple people, some of your colleagues even call me, what do you think?
01:00:42.000And I go, listen, I see both sides of it.
01:00:45.000Like, there is something nice about, like, the sort of giving them the finger and blowing it all up.
01:00:51.000But there's also consequences to that.
01:00:54.000And so, you know, the consequences, you know, sort of like, Hey, let's put sanctions on Russia.
01:00:59.000That's great. Guess what? They go over, they avoid the sanctions by staying on their currency, effectively putting a nail in the coffin of the US petrodollar, which has allowed us to do all the things that we've done, which has allowed us to spend past our means.
01:01:15.000They understood that the consequence of that one, yeah, you blow it up, but if you actually do default on some of these things, like that borrowing ability goes bye-bye.
01:01:24.000The interest rate on the bonds that are out there and the $32 trillion that's outstanding goes through the roof.
01:01:32.000A lot of things can go wrong really quickly that we don't necessarily control.
01:01:37.000And so it's interesting to me when, you know, I love the idea in general of blowing it up, but then you get into the details of that and it's like, It's not that simple.
01:01:46.000And they understood that better than most, certainly better than a lot of the pundits on TV who just wanted to say, the Republicans are being difficult.
01:01:54.000No, no, no. The American populace, who those people despise, they think they're idiots.
01:01:59.000They got it better than most, which was really interesting.
01:02:04.000No, you're right. And that's why I choose, you know, you can listen to a lot of people up here, Don.
01:02:10.000That's one thing that I'm sure that you saw when you were helping your dad out.
01:02:15.000One thing I've seen running for Congress, there's no shortages of opinions and advice up here.
01:02:22.000You better pick really wisely and smartly about who you're taking counsel from, who you're taking advice from.
01:02:29.000And like I said earlier, show me your friends.
01:02:33.000I'm glad to be in the House Freedom Caucus.
01:02:35.000I'm going to keep trying to put my shoulder to the wheel every single day and continue to be mentored and listen to men and women who have been there longer than me, are wiser than me, have more experience than me, and also humble myself and continually remind myself that I don't know There's a lot more that I don't know than I do know.
01:02:54.000But like I said, I knew this wasn't an intelligence or experience thing necessarily.
01:03:02.000This is a moral courage thing and men and women who are willing to go up there, stand in the gap, take the slings and the arrows, and go home if necessary for the American people.
01:03:16.000I love that you're going back to your people also, not just going from a gut, not just being influenced by D.C., but what is the number one issue out there right now for your constituency?
01:03:26.000What is the thing that you hear most from them?
01:03:32.000You know, and some of them are state issues, some of them are federal issues, but Arizonans are really concerned, as you know, about elections.
01:03:40.000They're really concerned about elections.
01:03:42.000They don't think that these are the freest, tightest, most secure elections that we've ever had.
01:03:49.000Because they're smart. Yeah, they also are very concerned, obviously, about the border.
01:03:55.000And they're also, I think, as much concerned about the weaponization of our federal government, you know, the very government that's supposed to be protecting their God-given, unalienable rights actually being turned against them.
01:04:10.000And they see it every day, whether you're talking about the EPA government, The ATF, FBI, etc.
01:04:18.000They just know that it's not working the way it's supposed to work.
01:04:23.000And so I think that's one of the only reasons they let a guy that looks like me and talks like me go up to the hill and represent him, Don.
01:04:32.000But those are some of the big issues for my voters.
01:04:35.000I think you also have the worldly experience for that.
01:04:38.000I mean, you joined the military after 9-11.
01:04:41.000You had some incredible people signing up to fight for the country.
01:04:45.000I mean, when you see what's going on right now, are you concerned about the military recruiting?
01:04:52.000And that a lot of the best candidates would no longer even consider or be interested in serving due to the direction.
01:05:00.000I imagine a huge part of the patriotism that would be involved in going to serve your country and possibly die for your country is actually...
01:05:11.000Believing in the things that are the issues, believing in the direction in which that country is going.
01:05:28.000And it's amazing to me that the brightest minds in the military are not like, huh, maybe we should take it a different direction.
01:05:36.000Instead, they're doubling down that we have drag influencers now doing recruitment It feels like they're perpetuating the problem, not solving it.
01:05:49.000I can tell you there was an incident probably about three months ago.
01:05:54.000Several of us were in a briefing with some of the Navy's top leaders, and they were talking to us about China and how they're expanding and some of the things that they're doing with their Navy.
01:06:09.000And how we need to, you know, counter and keep pace.
01:06:13.000And there were three members of the Freedom Caucus in there.
01:06:17.000All three of us, you know, two of us were actually former Navy individuals.
01:06:22.000And three of us, you know, we all asked, Admiral, hey, we hear what you're saying, sir.
01:06:27.000We understand that this is a real issue and could turn into a real problem in the future.
01:06:32.000One of the things that we're concerned about, though, if we give you this money, if we appropriate this money that you're asking for, how do we know that it's not going to be used to continue some of these DEI programs, some of this You know, just wokeness that we see going on in the Department of Defense, in the military, in the Navy.
01:06:50.000And he wouldn't even acknowledge it, Don.
01:06:53.000He looked, you know, and when I took a run at him, he said, you know, his answer has come back to me was, I think, you know, diversity is a strength.
01:07:01.000And so this guy, a very, very intelligent guy who wears the uniform, who has served his country for a long time.
01:07:08.000And I can just tell these guys are wearing the rank that they are, many of them.
01:07:14.000Because they're willing to drink the Kool-Aid.
01:07:16.000They're willing to parrot the party line.
01:07:20.000And I don't blame young men and women for not wanting to go fight for these individuals who don't have the courage to stand up to this backwards narrative that is doing nothing and leadership that's doing nothing to increase the strength of our military and prepare us for the wars that are coming down the pipe.
01:07:41.000You know, and it's just, it's terrifying, brother, because I've always been focused on, hey, the internal battles and struggles, because I know that a house divided cannot stand.
01:07:52.000That's the number one threat, as far as I'm concerned, is, you know, what's going on within our own house.
01:07:58.000But that being said... A hundred percent.
01:08:12.000It's these lunatics in charge that are willing to say that.
01:08:15.000I'm sure for you, as a SEAL, when you're fighting battles, you didn't want your air cover.
01:08:21.000The guys either flying the helicopters or planes or artillery decided on a diversity quota.
01:08:28.000You wanted the best guy there so they don't drop a bomb on your head.
01:08:30.000So they take out the bad guys, not allies.
01:08:33.000And yet, that seems like it's a totally foreign concept right now.
01:08:38.000No, it is. And you brought up these drag shows and whatnot.
01:08:42.000And it's like, what? How does that make us a better force?
01:08:45.000How is that going to help us fight against China?
01:08:49.000It's not. And it's just, I mean, it's like this backwards world we live in.
01:08:54.000But that's why I said, Don, early in the program, I do see A lot of this having spiritual foundations.
01:09:01.000A lot of the headlines we see, in my opinion, are a byproduct of this good versus evil fight that has been here since the beginning of time.
01:09:13.000And that's why I call on Americans again to continue to pray for this country, pray for our representatives, our leaders, and pray that God will bless this country, even though I know that, you know, I think you could make an argument that, you know, we don't deserve it. Listen, seeing where we are, seeing the priorities of a good part of the country, certainly a vast majority of our leadership, yeah, it's hard to justify.
01:09:44.000I mean, I imagine that's reflected in the recruitment numbers and stuff.
01:09:48.000So maybe... As a last question to kind of finish up, what does America First mean to you?
01:09:55.000And then how do you combine that to assess the state of the 2024 race so that we can finally maybe fix these things?
01:10:04.000You know, American first is the plumb line, right?
01:10:07.000Carpenters use them to make sure that they're going straight, make sure that they have a goal that they can actually not get sidetracked from.
01:10:15.000I think that it has to be the plumb line that we have right now because like you and I just discussed, I don't think that if America works in cohesion and unity and utilizes The resources, the talents, the individuals that we have, I don't think anybody can stop us.
01:10:32.000I think we can continue to be, you know, a beacon of hope, prosperity, and even resources for the rest of the world.
01:10:39.000As far as the 2024, you know, election, you know, election, I endorsed your dad.
01:10:46.000I think it was day one, maybe day two.
01:10:58.000I know exactly. And the reason I did, Don, was – and it's not – I don't think Ron – I think Ron DeSantis, you know, I think he's a good guy.
01:11:06.000I think he's done a lot of good things in Florida.
01:11:08.000I'm not going to sit here and beat him up.
01:11:09.000But the reason that I endorsed your old man was because I think we need the strongest
01:11:48.000Then you look at the ring from the globalists on the outside, dictators all around the world
01:11:54.000who don't want a Donald Trump in office.
01:11:56.000They don't want a strong American leader.
01:11:57.000Matter of fact, they don't even want us to have a constitution or a bill of rights.
01:12:02.000Many of these people don't want borders.
01:12:04.000They don't want American individuality at all.
01:12:07.000And so the amount that that leader, whoever it ends up being, is going to face is tremendous.
01:12:13.000You need somebody who has the strength to stand up to all of it, which your old man has already proved that he does, And has a track record of actually executing on the promises that he made, which is very rare up in that town.
01:12:30.000Well, I appreciate it, Ben, and really appreciate what you're doing there.
01:12:35.000You know, one of the freshmen really making a difference, not just towing the line, not just waiting for, you know, seven terms to be able to speak up.
01:12:48.000Talk is cheap. Action is very telling.
01:12:50.000So I just appreciate everything that you're doing down there, guys.
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