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00:00:37.000He's one of the former CEOs of the Nazarene Fund, which seeks to save oppressed religious minorities in the Middle East.
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00:05:20.000Well, guys, super excited about this episode of Triggered because we have someone that's actually making a real difference in the world, right?
00:05:28.000There's the people that talk, there's the people that talk shit, there's the people that are actually doing it, and the gentleman here to my left, Tim Ballard, is actually a man of action.
00:05:36.000Tim is the subject of the movie The Sound of Freedom, the movie about human trafficking
00:05:43.000Child sex trafficking in Latin America.
00:05:59.000I mean, you know, you had interesting background, and you sort of end up in this world, you know, that today we're told, apparently, and certainly based on the controversy that we've seen,
00:06:12.000About the movie that, like, this stuff isn't happening, but it's very clearly happening and it should be a hill to die on for anyone.
00:06:22.000For anyone that has any shred of decency, any piece of humanity, and yet
00:06:28.000I mean, they're trying to make it go away.
00:06:30.000Certainly at least one side of the political spectrum, not mine, is trying to make it go away.
00:07:18.000No, no, no, but just that alone has to take a toll.
00:07:20.000Oh, I have a million holes burned in my brain, truly.
00:07:25.000I mean, I've watched thousands of hours of just videos of children, young children, like seven years old, average age, just being horrifically just raped, and it's, yeah, it's my reality now to deal with.
00:07:38.000I'm sorry you had to actually, I'm just glad someone is doing it, because I could see that being, you know, the toughest person in the world could not get through that and do what you've done.
00:08:58.000I don't care if we end up living in a tent, she told me, the second week of December of 2013.
00:09:02.000In fact, when I fought back, because when she didn't read the line I wanted her to read, which was, come home, I was like, I want to pretend to be valiant, but in reality I was pretty cowardice.
00:09:11.000And she's like, you know, keep your ass down there.
00:10:07.000How come it seems like they're pretending like this isn't a real issue?
00:10:12.000It doesn't, it's mind-boggling to me, whether, you know, whether that, you know, and I understand perhaps the politics of the border, but like, it seems like there is, you're not going to get rid of all of it, but there is a way to make it much harder for people to do these horrific things.
00:10:30.000You know, that's, you know, there's bad people all over the world, there always will be bad people, but
00:11:01.000But yeah, that was the interesting part.
00:11:02.000You were saying, you know, the film was made and you actually got some acclaim, although it wasn't really released, at least not in sort of the mass market sense that it is now.
00:11:16.000How could they have a claim for the film, the idea?
00:11:18.000I mean, who could, you know, as screwed up as we are right now as far as I'm concerned, who could ever be against getting this story out there, trying to stop this horrific practice that's clearly pretty prevalent?
00:11:30.000Here's what I think happened, and it actually connects to, you helped me get into your dad.
00:11:34.000Yeah, I did not get involved, in many cases, I don't get the Hunter Biden treatment, right?
00:11:38.000I got involved twice, in the sense that, you know, one was for Pebble Mine, just an environmental thing, actually, just as a, you know, up in Bristol Bay, I was like, listen, this is a disaster, and they sort of, I guess, took my advice.
00:11:49.000The other was when we met in Utah, I was like,
00:11:53.000Wait a minute, like, I understand it's a problem.
00:13:03.000How can you be a parent and not, like, I can't think of anything worse in the world than that to minors, and yet it's either a cover-up, or it's a problem, or we won't even talk about it, or we're going to protect those who are doing these horrific deeds.
00:13:37.000No one could just come and take that kid.
00:13:39.000There'd be background checks, DNA tests, whatever, before that kid is delivered up, right?
00:13:43.000What your dad was doing was building enforcement, building a wall that would allow or disallow that from ever happening or give those children, those foreign kids, the same opportunity that a lost child would have in New York City.
00:13:54.000In other words, it would incentivize these traffickers from bringing kids up.
00:14:00.000When you open the borders, it's the least compassionate thing you can do.
00:14:03.000So they accuse your dad of being a racist.
00:14:05.000And, oh, you don't want kids to come in?
00:14:09.000A wall forces the traffickers to take kids into the one place, their final hope, that an American officer can see and recognize and rescue that child.
00:14:18.000And so, I texted you earlier today, your dad literally rescued tens of thousands of children because he was pro-border enforcement.
00:14:25.000And it's like, Clinton built more of the wall than Trump did.
00:16:17.000I was with a delegate of congressmen at the Republican Party on the Hill a few weeks ago and they said, why can't we wake up the other side?
00:16:23.000Why won't they wake up to the fact that 85,000 children
00:16:27.000Thousands that are five years old are in our country.
00:17:47.000These are main, high-level talking points.
00:17:51.000You see, if you don't let your children transition, we're going to take them away from you.
00:17:55.000That was, I believe, Washington State and Oregon, and voted on, I believe, 100% of the Democrat delegation, I guess, in the state legislature there, voted for these things.
00:18:07.000How much bigger is the problem than we actually could even fathom?
00:18:11.000Because, meaning, if there's 12 people out there that are doing that, it's terrible and they should be, as far as I'm concerned, they should be shot.
00:18:19.000It's different than if there's tens of thousands, and there has to be tens of thousands of people doing this, if not much more, if they're able to get this level of backup from a mainstream political party.
00:18:33.000If they're able to get 100% of state's legislature, when you're wondering what other purpose could it be for than that?
00:18:40.000Um, it's actually millions, because there's two million children we know, that we believe, I think it's much more than that, uh, forced into commercial sex.
00:18:46.000That means there's, I don't know, times ten, times I don't know how many more.
00:18:55.000And I'm not suggesting that the leftists are pedophiles, but I am suggesting that they are making pedophiles salivate because they are implementing the very policies that for decades the pedophile movement has been pushing.
00:19:55.000I think they know they're running interference with pedophiles and traffickers and they don't want to kind of sacrifice their agenda by allowing the world to think this is happening.
00:20:35.000Isn't it easy to be the guy to be like, hey, I'm from the left, and this is insane, and yet it doesn't seem like I see anyone willing to do it?
00:20:42.000So one thing, I think, I learned after I met with your father in 2019, and I said all these things, and I didn't think it was partisan.
00:20:50.000The press was all there, C-SPAN, you know, film, it was all over.
00:20:54.000I got home that night to my hotel, and my office called and said, Tim, we just lost
00:20:59.000Over a thousand of our recurring donors.
00:21:34.000You know, because your dad, not only was he enforcing the border, which was rescuing children, you know, he was also putting people on the bench that have rescued how many unborn babies?
00:21:43.000I mean, he's rescued just multiples of thousands.
00:21:47.000And he deployed $300 million into the fight against human trafficking.
00:21:54.000Certainly presidential, you know, sort of movement towards actually doing something about it.
00:21:59.000Meaning, everyone has a soundbite, but that was sort of the first time they actually formed a group to look into the practices and what's going on and try to combat it.
00:22:07.000I mean, it had always been very bipartisan.
00:22:08.000Like, I was always happy with every administration as they came in, whether it was Republican or Democrat.
00:22:51.000And I was sitting in the white, on the West Wing, I was sitting in the Roosevelt Room in October of 2020, and I was meeting with the National Security Advisor and Kash Patel and others were there, and they had this plan.
00:22:59.000They had this plan that I was going to be part of that was going to change the entire game of how we were going to attack pedophilia.
00:23:05.000We were going to go after them through our embassies overseas and find them hurting kids overseas and then track them back to the U.S.
00:23:26.000I actually always make that distinction, right?
00:23:30.000I think FBI leadership is broken, corrupted.
00:23:34.000I think most of these agencies, once the Washington component, the door kickers, the guys on the ground, the guys like you, these are our people.
00:23:43.000They're going to lose, if they even say anything remotely, even if it's their job, if you're supportive of Trump.
00:23:52.000If you're a conservative, you saw that with the way they treated people, whether it was with the mandates or whatever.
00:23:56.000They were sniffing them out and trying to get the guys that were actually doing God's work out of these agencies so that they can continue their rule.
00:24:03.000I always make the distinction between the bureaucrats and the door kickers.
00:24:07.000The door kickers, they come up to me every day talking about how upset they are that their agencies have been corrupted and broken.
00:24:16.000I mean, one of the benefits of leaving and privatizing the Rescue Patrol, I could start talking for the first time.
00:24:21.000But Border Patrol, I mean, they're furious at Mallorca for what he's doing.
00:24:24.000I mean, I don't know if you've seen the exchange with Ted Cruz, where he's like, these guys are making $14 million a day on the border, these traffickers, and they're branding the kids.
00:24:46.000Meaning, you know, it almost feels like there's like a tacit acceptance.
00:24:51.000Right, they can't sue anything against it because it would go against the rest of Democrat policy, but like, I mean, you're talking, what are some examples, I mean, obviously the movie, but what are some of the other examples of what's going on there?
00:25:03.000So people fully understand just how bad this thing is, just how horrific.
00:25:30.000And I'm just going, you cannot congratulate the port of entry without simultaneously congratulating the wall, because the wall makes the port of entry.
00:25:37.000Two plus two equals four, and she doesn't get it?
00:28:11.000Because they're emboldened, like you said, by leftist policies.
00:28:14.000I want to say, I'm not saying the left is pedophiles, but I'm saying they're ignorant to the fact that their policies are exactly what pedophiles have been peddling.
00:28:21.000Their policies are making pedophiles happy, making them salivate, because they're grooming policies.
00:28:27.000They're policies that are allowing children to be delivered.
00:28:32.000Even if, you know, sort of like Wuhan lab leak theory, right?
00:28:35.000You're not allowed to say that it came from the lab that studies the exact virus in question in the Orange, you know, in the town of Orange, like, because of course it came from there.
00:29:03.000There's no other answer to why they'd push them into this thing.
00:29:06.000No, there's no other answer, and I think what magnifies your point is the fact that a movie called Sound of Freedom, based on a true story, it's totally, in terms of politics, vanilla.
00:29:16.000There's no politics, there's no QAnon.
00:29:18.000This should be a 100% issue, but it's not.
00:29:20.000Anyone who fights that is hiding something else, and the only thing left we can see they're hiding is all of this stuff.
00:29:26.000There's all this agenda around children, enslaving them in the name of liberating them.
00:29:30.000That's what they're doing, and we're exposing it.
00:29:32.000So, how do these groups work in practice?
00:29:52.000I mean, how do they keep that stuff under wraps that they could perform, you know, the most horrific acts known to man, I guess, and feel comfortable functioning?
00:30:03.000There are kids in New York City, okay, Homeland Security, my colleagues have worked and I've assisted on cases.
00:30:09.000These kids show up, they get trafficked in, I mean, they show up and they are, there's appointments made.
00:30:33.000You know, the previous administration tried to make it a priority, and then the next one has not.
00:30:38.000There's about five anti-drug agents, this is anecdotally speaking, but about five anti-drug agents to every one anti-child trafficking agent.
00:30:45.000And the only way to flip it is make it a priority.
00:30:48.000And the only way to make it a priority, I think, is to wake up the people, and I hope Sound of Freedom is that tool.
00:30:53.000Well, listen, I think it's doing that.
00:30:58.000Again, even a guy like me who's known you for years now and heard the stories, until you actually see it, you don't get it.
00:31:08.000We talk about the policies and be like, this has to be this, but until you actually hear those stories, I guess if you're just a decent person, you can't even imagine that there's this level of evil
00:31:19.000In the world, but I guess what you're saying is that level of evil exists, and it exists at a much higher and more prolific rate than we could have ever fathomed.
00:31:59.000I get that decent people can't comprehend it, so it's easier just to pretend it's not happening.
00:32:04.000But I'm telling you, I think there's been about 6 million people who've showed up in the last 12 days to watch Sound of Freedom, and they're seeing it, and they're willing to see it.
00:32:12.000And that's what's going to change everything now.
00:32:15.000I'm seeing some of the woke corporate media putting up big money movies and they're losing to Sound of Freedom.
00:32:25.000Now, they're pushing a woke agenda that many would accuse of being, let's call it, groomer-like with their corporate policies and stuff like that.
00:32:35.000Uh, it's sort of like, you know, Top Gun, right?
00:32:37.000Well, it was the one pro-America movie of the year, and it beat everything, because that spirit actually still exists in America, so it's there, even if woke corporate is trying to beat it out of us, even if the mainstream media and big tech are trying to beat
00:32:52.000That decency, that the nature of just America, that patriotism, it's under attack daily.
00:33:02.000There's a consequence to being a conservative.
00:33:04.000I'm not saying you are or aren't, but you saw that something that, again, at any other time in history, you'd say, oh, this is a 100% issue, which doesn't exist in politics.
00:34:24.000By the way, talk about how anyone watching this can find
00:34:28.000Your group to be able to support, or others that are doing God's work as far as I'm concerned, because it's not about being the dominating group in there.
00:34:45.000I recently just retired from both for a reason.
00:34:49.000When Sound of Freedom came out, it used to end with the OUR, the Operation Underground Railroad logo.
00:34:54.000And I said, and some people at my foundation might not have liked this so much, and I understand that, I said, don't put any logo on this.
00:35:00.000Because there's many organizations that are doing amazing work, and we're not the solution to every single kid.
00:35:06.000But there is a solution for every kid, so I recently, before the movie came out, I stepped away, and I'm supporting something called the Spear Fund, the spearfund.org, which supports Operation Underground Railroad,
00:35:17.000And the Nazarene Fund, but it supports all.
00:35:19.000It's a scalable solution where, with resources in the Spear Fund.
00:35:23.000We have a mission, this is what we want, so they'll donate to that, whatever it may be.
00:35:27.000Whoever's the best rescue for that kid, you're getting the resources, and we'll make sure you get them and help and manage it.
00:36:04.000Yeah, they were saved before they were absorbed into that world.
00:36:10.000I mean, those numbers, and again, of course, those are numbers, who knows how bad, the numbers could be that big of who you actually catch, and I imagine these are sophisticated networks.
00:36:22.000Again, how do those networks function, that they can get away with it, that someone can bring a child to a hotel room somewhere,
00:36:31.000And people aren't like, hey, wait a minute, this is a problem.
00:36:33.000So for years, frankly, I mean, these guys have been working with impunity because there's been no laws, no consequences, no one's looking over their shoulders.
00:36:43.000They go into these high sex zones where prostitution might be legal, but the underbelly of that is not, but no one can detect it, right?
00:36:51.000And so by going in and doing operations, we're laying a deterrent effect where it's like there is a consequence, right?
00:36:57.000And because of the things the United States and others have done over the last decade or so to kind of bring it to attention, laws have been better.
00:37:12.000It's like, you suck at this, and if you want grants, you better get better.
00:37:16.000So those are things that have helped kind of create new laws, and it's being more effective, and we show up and say, hey, let's help you get from Tier 2 to Tier 1, so the U.S.
00:37:25.000government will like you a little better, and here's how you do it, and we'll coach them into how to do the rescue operations.
00:37:32.000Are there countries that work with us well on these problems, and who are they, and are there countries that are
00:37:41.000Sort of, let's call it, you know, tacitly accepting of it.
00:37:44.000And they just say, hey, listen, there's powerful people and we're getting a kickback and we're just going to turn a blind eye.
00:37:49.000So I'd say it's yes and no in every one of those countries.
00:39:22.000I mean, it's not 13 anymore, I mean, they're trying to go, I mean, you go to kindergarten and you could come home, you know, literally missing body parts because, you know, your teacher convinced literally the most impressionable mind in the world that they, you know, that, you know, I thought I was an airplane when I was a kid for a couple of days, you know what I mean?
00:39:40.000Like, you know, my parents were like, oh, you urinated again?
00:40:19.000Like, you know, couldn't have a drink, but they could decide to literally chop off body parts based on, you know, and then, you know, trying to get around parental consent.
00:40:50.000There's multiple levels of that depravity.
00:40:52.000I think what's happening is the people that are pushing these agendas have been so loud, and the silent majority have been so quiet, that it's almost like, if you don't accept this, you will be cancelled.
00:41:18.000Like, oh shoot, it'll be popular for me to say that allowing kids to gender mutilate is A-OK, and a three-year-old can say they're in the wrong body, that's blah.
00:42:08.000I don't want to make it easier for them to avoid you, but I assume they know because they seem like, as sick as these people are, it does seem like there's a sophisticated network and a lot of money and money moves mountains.
00:42:21.000So it's all about access points, right?
00:42:22.000It's about where do predators find kids?
00:42:25.000Now, in the old days, even when you and I were kids, it was playgrounds and parks, or a dirty uncle.
00:43:46.000They'll remove Donald Trump, the President of the United States, from having a Twitter account, but we're not going to get rid of the child porn on it.
00:43:53.000Again, how is that socially acceptable?
00:43:55.000Why is tech seemingly... It feels like they could push a button and make a lot of this stuff stop.
00:44:59.000And instantly, based on like, okay, the kid's depressed, the kid's saying things like, my parents hate me, the kid's showing less and less clothing and more and more skin tones, right?
00:46:34.000But this is a true story, and this is how it happened, and how it's still happening here.
00:46:40.000So it's all smoke and mirrors, though.
00:46:41.000It's all just trying to distract and try to discredit for, I think, like I said, they don't want to have the larger conversation about how their agendas are hurting kids.
00:47:38.000Leans across the table and looks at this pedophile in the eyes and ad-libs this line and he says, he just says, better that a millstone be hung about your neck and you tossed to the bottom of the sea than that you should hurt one of these little ones, quoting Matthew 18.
00:47:51.000And the actor who was playing the pedophile didn't know what to do and they caught him.
00:47:55.000His reaction is what the final take was and he's like, what?
00:48:49.000I've seen some crazy stuff in the last few years of my life, right?
00:48:53.000It changed drastically when we got into politics, but like, again, I still can't fathom a point where this isn't a 100% issue.
00:49:01.000Let's say, minus the people who are actually partaking in it.
00:49:05.000You know, when things are so irrational, and this might sound extreme, but it's what I believe, I mean, when things are so irrational that we can't make sense of them, why wouldn't you all be a part of this?
00:49:15.000Again, even eight years ago, Rolling Stone, The Guardian, all those who were attacking us, applauded the very operation.
00:49:20.000They reported on the October 11, 2014 operation that is the film, that's the real story.
00:49:29.000And so sometimes you just look at it like this is, this is beyond just the physicality.
00:49:34.000There's something, there's things we can't even see going on that are influencing good and evil and I feel like that line is getting clearer and clearer and there's less and less middle ground as we move forward right now.
00:49:44.000Are there people in, you know, in government currently that are helping on this issue?
00:49:49.000Do you think that the movie will wake up some of those people?
00:50:47.000So that we can, you know, again, a lot of people watched this, hopefully the movie, just people talking about that creates that sense of urgency, right?
00:52:09.000If they do, I promise you, maybe Rolling Stone will have their take, and maybe The Guardian or one of these leftist organizations will have their take.
00:52:40.000I mean, obviously it's going to be different, every person's going to react differently, but, you know, how much of this is not just, you know, finding and rescuing kids, but how much has to go into it afterwards?
00:52:51.000Because I can't imagine, I mean, we talk about PTSD, imagine what, I mean...
00:52:56.000I can't even fathom what that could do to a psyche.
00:52:59.000There is no rescue until there's healing.
00:53:03.000In fact, every time I've been running any organization, or any operation, whether it's through OUR or the Nazarene Fund or whatever, the aftercare piece comes first.
00:53:12.000We sit down and that's the plan we design first.
00:53:15.000Yeah, because I guess, I would think you'd have children that are suicidal.
00:53:19.000If you take them and nothing happens, what else are they going to do?
00:53:22.000They know no other life probably after
00:53:25.000Oh, if you do operations without aftercare, you're actually doing, it's a net negative.
00:53:30.000Because I've seen it happen, where they, oh, we get a rescue and everyone runs home, and the kid gets two days of an interview, kicked out to the parking lot, the trafficker picks him up, beats the snot out of him, and now they'll never trust law enforcement again.
00:53:42.000So that aftercare piece is the crucial piece.
00:55:13.000It's not just, again, the rescue, but it's, you know, if these kids, they want to come up and they want to tell that story, they want to expose, whether it's these groups, whether it's the practices, whether it's, like, I mean, I can't think of anything more powerful, so I'm sure you'll get all sorts of help for actually doing something that can be really effective in combating that, but, I mean, that's, I mean, that's what you need.
00:55:54.000He became an advocate for human trafficking, fighting human trafficking.
00:55:57.000He'd go into the streets where trafficking was happening.
00:55:59.000He found, like two or three years ago, he found this young girl who was being trafficked and she was pregnant, having been raped.
00:56:06.000And he caught her on the moment that she was gonna, she told him, I'm going home, I'm either gonna abort, for sure abort the baby, but probably just kill myself too.
00:57:14.000There has to be so much more, but if you can get that, what do you think that success rate is?
00:57:19.000I mean, I imagine there's some that, you know, it's just so, you know, it's awful and I wish it wasn't the case, but you also have to deal with the reality.
00:57:27.000But if you had the funds, the facilities, some psychiatrists or whatever it is, all of the above, what do you think that success rate could realistically be?
00:57:40.000It's higher than most people would think, if you stay with them.
00:57:46.000We say to the kids that we help, you're our family forever.
00:58:05.000We lose some just run away and they can't have, they go back into that industry because they don't know, they don't think they can be anything else.
00:58:11.000I remember talking to one kid that we rescued and just in conversation like trying to distract and talk about whatever.
00:59:01.000And that's when you start seeing hope.
00:59:05.000In other countries around the world, you'd sort of mentioned sex tourism earlier.
00:59:11.000That's a reality, but I guess it further degenerates into some of this.
00:59:17.000What are the countries that are the most prolific offenders of that, that, let's say, enable this?
00:59:22.000Because I think people should know, just because I imagine if their industry is hurt by people not going to them for legitimate tourism, maybe they'd actually start acting to
00:59:34.000To prevent the more nefarious side of things.
00:59:37.000So it's, I mean, really any tourist town you see, Southeast Asia has a very high rate of that kind of stuff.
00:59:44.000Amsterdam, and this is interesting, this opens up a little bit.
00:59:56.000I got in a debate with Dennis Prager, I was on his show, and I, like him, I'm very libertarian.
01:00:00.000And he's like, I'm opposed to prostitution, but the government shouldn't be involved with consenting adults.
01:00:07.000I agree with that, but I was making the point, and I said, Dennis, here's the problem that maybe some people don't see, is when you create a sex market, you're legitimizing pimps.
01:00:21.000They're never going to show you the product that they have, what they call product, that they can sell for five times what they're selling, what they're showing you.
01:00:29.000They'll never show you that, but you legitimize them, they have a certificate from the government framed on their wall, and you're paying tax, they're paying taxes, and you'll never see the 12 kids that they have laced throughout five hotels.
01:00:39.000And those kids will be trapped forever.
01:01:25.000I don't, I don't, I mean, I've seen the studies, I don't have them before me right now, but yes, absolutely, we can, we can show, we can prove that there's a causal relationship, cause and effect, this is what happens.
01:01:34.000The rate of child exploitation increases significantly in legalized adult sex zones, absolutely.
01:01:40.000Has anyone done it where they've been able to prevent that or not?
01:01:52.000Every country in the world, including the United States, doesn't have enough manpower to investigate child crimes.
01:01:57.000You're sucking the resources just to legitimize this business and have compliance officers going in and shaking hands and making sure HIV tests are done.
01:02:05.000No, you're sucking resources that you already need, they'll never find those kids.
01:02:38.000How do they take, I think the big thing or key theme of this show is, hey, you've got to become unafraid.
01:02:44.000There's consequences to being on our side, at least if I'm looking at the political side, but if you don't do this, that apathy is far worse than any
01:02:55.000I mean, it's hard to believe that you can have the story that you have with the people that you've saved in this and still be vilified.
01:03:47.000Because if you want to stand up for kids these days, you're going to be cancelled.
01:03:50.000People are going to hate on you because the solutions are coming from a place where
01:03:55.000There's a big portion of the country that doesn't want you to expose it, doesn't want you to talk about it.
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01:05:26.000Pass it on, because it's hard to believe that this is controversial these days, but certainly mainstream media is going to do nothing to get it out there, and so we're going to do it with your help, organically, the way we have to do everything, okay?
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